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Welcome to A Little Unscripted, the show where

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we pull a random title, spin a random genre,

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and then try to create a film that honestly shouldn't

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work, and is impossible, and is way too expensive,

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and no one's asking for, but that's the fun.

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One idea, one hour, and zero guarantees. Let's

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make this thing. Good day. I'm Ryan and this

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is Logan and no matter what we are gonna make

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a movie today again yet today We're doing it

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again again. You sound bored and upset. No No,

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definitely. Are you out? No, no, no, I'm actually

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happy cheery and chipper about it. I'm ready

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again It's the dream. Wait, how could you be

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sad doing that again? We were musing about our

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previous film Yes. Yes. I believe we titled it

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or it was titled for us. I just clarify. Yeah.

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Just north of trouble. we were given a genre

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that we like. I think it was quite up our alley.

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We were talking about how we hadn't been in a

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wheelhouse and we got there. We did. So let me

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ask you, we reflected a little bit. Do you think

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we honored a genre we like maybe even love with

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what we made? I think it would be a fun sci -fi.

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I would say it reminds me of surrogates. Remember

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surrogates, Bruce Willis? Yeah. Yeah, I think

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it reminds me it gives me wall -e yeah surrogates

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and or like gamer if anybody remembers the great

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movie gamer if you don't I know I know you should

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see his eyes if you had like the quiet anime

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eyes they just happened right there gamer so

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much. It's a great movie. Michael C. Hall, if

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I remember correctly. No, not Michael. Was it?

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Yes. Amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Great. Great villain.

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Kira Sedgwick. Whenever I was, I was crushing

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on her recently and trying to force her into

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one of our, one of our previous movies. She's

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in it and she's just Spitfire. She's amazing.

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I think the whole cast kills it. I think it definitely

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flew under the radar because everybody's like,

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Oh, it's just another. Do you think it was too

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violent? Because the sex is graphic. The sex

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is graphic. If you've seen it as many times as

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me. I haven't seen it in a while. You look at

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some people's name handles in the simulation.

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It's vulgar fucking shit. And it's one of those

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Newton's cradles of naked women in it. Yes. You

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know what I mean? There is. It's the perfect

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fever dream. If I remember correctly, Terry Crews

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comes out swinging, right? Naked. Yes. Literally

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blood. Yeah. His idea, his idea. Yeah. Madman.

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Like, yeah, it's perfect. It's a perfect for

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me. It's a perfect movie. If you want to see

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it, it's on Ryan's recommendation. But the concept

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is really cool to me because it puts you into

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that sci fi idea of it. It's not Hunger Games,

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but it's it's poor people or people. you know,

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with less than being forced to do horrible shit

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for the entertainment of the fucking rich. Yeah.

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I remember for anybody really. Yeah. If I remember

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correctly, we kind of tied Elysium, John, what

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kind of idea sci -fi. So I think we definitely

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had the sci -fi. But the way that it's like the

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Sims for real is the most horrifying part. Yeah.

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You know, in knowing that people are doing it

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willingly and for money. is not enough. You know,

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like it's so sad. The more you watch it and you're

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like, this is cool. And then like the more you're

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sitting there and watch it and you're like, this

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is not as cool as you really think it is. Once

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the guy starts, you know, dipping his waffles.

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Yeah. Big, huge guy. I remember that changes

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the temperature. Yeah. Like when it cuts to that

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and you're like, and he's the one controlling

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his wife. Yeah. Yeah. It's a. It's definitely

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a movie that I think people forgot about and

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deserve the rewatch. It's amazing. I watch it

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a lot and I have the Blu -ray of it and that's

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another one that I have not taken the time to

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watch the any commentary or, you know, I should

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just do that. Prioritize these movies I love

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and watch the special features. Indeed, sir.

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All right. Knowing that that's the vibe that

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we got, was there any recasting that we thought

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in general? Recasting. Let me think about this

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recasting situation. Or director. I know that

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we had quite a few great named actors and actresses

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in this here movie we created. Well, let me say

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this. One of the wilder aspects of the movie

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was Leslie Nielsen. Yeah. As a bad guy off planet.

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I like that. We I think like corporation kind

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of guy against type Carrie Elwes. Remember as

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the oh, yes, I forgot he was down. Forgot he

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was there. Yes. Super fun. Yes. And not young,

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Kerry. I was as great as he is at present. Yes.

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Right now. The Stranger Things most recent thing

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I remember him from. Not to say that's his best,

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just like that's the most recent thing I remember

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him from. We'll put him from that. Yes, essentially.

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That's a great art type, right? Isn't he a scientist?

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He was like the mayor. Oh, never mind. Yeah,

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he was the mayor. I'm thinking of Matthew Modine

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then maybe. Yeah, you're thinking of somebody

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else. Interesting. Yeah, yeah, but I still like

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that because the idea of him just having to take

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all this shit from Linda Hamilton. Yeah. Linda

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Hamilton in her renaissance right now, right?

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Yeah. She looks great. She does. She has from

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the beginning. Always. I just remember what,

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you know, what was made of Terminator 2 and the

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scene of her, you know, lifting weights. A lady

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has arms. And I'm like, looking back on it, It

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shouldn't have been that big of a deal. It shouldn't

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have, but it was cool. And it made her a real

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bad ass. I think the first, I, if I remember

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correctly, cause it's been a while spoiler alert.

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Uh, if for those who are in the know, uh, it's

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been a bit, but like, if I remember correctly,

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we even brought that up ourselves and being like

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sci -fi is kind of a good place for strong female

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characters. I don't know why it's the groundwork

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for if it's the sci -fi itself allows. Because

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that's where it can only happen. Yeah, it's the

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only place. It's wrong. It's wrong for that to

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be the only place, but they definitely make some

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strong female characters. Yeah. And it can, it

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can transition. That last. Think about how many

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franchises are sci -fi with. Yeah. For, I mean.

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They're still going. Still going. They're branched

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off to different things. Still hanging on, still

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making money. That's rad. Yeah. So I think the,

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no, I think. Did we make a perfect movie? Maybe

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not, but I think that Jennifer Connelly's Tom

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Hardy if I remember correctly. Yeah. Yeah Him

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him having a fight club s clone battle thing

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is great The clone battle. Yes having having

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it that happened if you're hearing this this

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is a countdown production value The timer from

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face off. Sorry. Are we about to explode? That's

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what's going to happen. We're about to explode.

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We're setting our timer. We got into a two live.

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Yeah, we're just a two live crew. But, you know,

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I agree with you. The idea that you could have

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Tom Hardy kind of reliving. Did we make that

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click to the movie where he plays the the twins,

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the mafia twins? You know what I mean? Yeah,

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yeah, yeah. But I can never remember the name

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of it, which I also cannot. But. It was the gangsters,

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the brothers from, I forget their name because

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there's the title of the movie. If I remember

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correctly, dang, I'm really spacing on this.

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I feel so bad. This is great. Yeah. Yeah. This

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is we might have to cancel this part. Send us

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home. We've been canceled by ourselves. We've

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done did it. Producers. The shepherd's hook came

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in. We got booed off stage. Boo right in the

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middle of it. Well, I guess on that note, we

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should remind everybody that there are some rules

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to these shenanigans. Which is wild shenanigans

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don't have rules. How dare we apply rules to

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this? But if the shenanigans get out of control

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they can become I don't know I don't know they

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find a multi shenanigans So in 60 seconds after

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we get a randomly generally generated hopefully

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original movie title and a existing genre we

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have to create a movie with a plot to conclusion

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three acts about we try to make as as bulky a

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narrative as we can. Yeah. Sometimes you need

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space to breathe and sometimes it's like, I can

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at least provide the framework and we can get

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there later. You all sexy people fill in the

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details. Make it better. You participate. If

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you can make it better for us, I'd approve. We

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have to have a movie with a character, at least

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one character of a sort. Yeah, it's too weird

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to have no characters. We've not stretched the

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bounds of that particular tenant of the show.

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I don't know what could be no character movies.

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I don't know. We may get there if we have to

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cross into the Twilight Zone. This film needs

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a Capitan at the helm, so a director. Somebody

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to guide this ship home. And again, we're a little

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fantastical about this. So some people are dead.

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Some people are in a period. We have anybody

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that our brain can conjure. So anytime, anywhere

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so far, we got at least 100 years to draw on.

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Right. And where maybe it's like we like this

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director when they're strongest in this period

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of time. So again, not trying to be too upsetting

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with it. And I think Logan's most exciting is

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my favorite. And it's really grown on me, too,

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is we have to come up with a tagline. I think

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the movie tagline for the movie poster, just

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because I got you got to see it on the movie

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poster suits need to be appeased. They know this

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thing's got to be somebody's got to see this

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movie asses in the seats, y 'all. Somebody's

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got to sell it. All right. So. Why don't you

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do the genre? Do you have the genre? I think

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I got the genres. I got the genres. All right.

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So our numbers and we have to find a way to make

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this more exciting. Yeah. Is our genre is nine

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and our number between one and one hundred is

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sixty four. Oh, what do you feel about sixty

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four? It's not quite sixty nine. I get that.

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I get that out of the way right now. Say it now.

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Say it before anybody else does. Unfinished business.

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Hold on. Unfinished. Business? Yeah. Biz? I wonder

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if that is like too simple enough to not be an

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existing movie. I don't know. It might fit great.

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These are AI generated and supposed to be not

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existing movies. Yes, so far not existing, but

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I don't know. It kind of fits in the genre that

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gave me gave me number nine, correct? I just

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want to make sure that's what you gave you nine.

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Oh, no, no nervous. No, no. You say it fits.

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I think you're going to be pleasantly surprised.

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Are you ready for this? Title unfinished business

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is going on to the genre westerns. Western. Yes.

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Of all the movies, I feel like of the titles,

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that feels like it would definitely fit. Amazing.

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It's going to last. What's last Western you saw?

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Oh, really? This is going to sound a little silly,

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but I watched the remake of 310 to Yuma yesterday.

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Oh, I was going to say I've it's been on my list.

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It's been circulating in the back of my head.

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I haven't seen in a while, but I was like, I

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do need to see that. Have you seen the original?

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I have not. I would. This is an instance when

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I would urge you to see both. Oh, OK. They're

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both great. OK, compare. It's definitely some

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cool intricacies, nuances, but the premise is

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heartbreaking and. Yeah, it's quite a story in

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the acting's rad. So I watched that. How about

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you? Last true Western. Oh Let's see. I don't

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do does miniseries counts We've kind of many

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so sure American Prime Evil. Oh, very cool that

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show. It's great. It's it's great. It gives me

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the I love to tell people because it's like a

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bit of a history nerd and it's like, hey, everybody's

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like, I want to go back to the cowboy times or

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medieval times. Like you wouldn't make it five

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minutes. Like watch that show and then be like,

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oh yeah, yeah, I want to go back here. It's like,

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no, you don't. Yeah, don't, don't be fooling

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yourself. You're lucky you live in the times

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you live in. I'm sorry to say that, but like

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don't time travel back to those times. They weren't,

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they weren't that great. Absolutely. Medicine

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soaps, showers. Why don't you say history hero?

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History instead of nerd. Oh, a history hero.

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OK, I'll say history hero instead of a nerd.

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I guess his nerds are too derogatory. Is that

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what you're suggesting? I don't think it's nerdy.

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So within the confines of this space, I think

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we should clarify. I approve. I approve of these

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two because this is why I say this. And I'm buttering

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your bread because I think you're going to help

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very much. OK, all right. Our endeavor, not only

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filmically, but historically. All right. Here's

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a question. As a Western, do you need it to be

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historically accurate or are you just stealing

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the themes? Bone Tomahawk style. We could discuss

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what makes a movie a Western. Yeah. This could

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be current, a la no country for old men. All

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right. You ready for the generalized breakdown,

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as I'm aware of it, for a Western? It's generally

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an old man or man in this Wastelands or place

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that is kind of sort of lawless as laws moving

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in as the the generalized story is they are in

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a place That times are changing and they don't

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want to change at the times Has to go for all

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but like even though like I would say like a

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neo -western is a movie that follows those parameters

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But you don't know is a Western like the superhero

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one the probably the best would be the movie

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Logan Wolverine movie, right? That's like the

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best neo -western for a superhero I don't know

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if you'd do it again, but like hell or high water

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counts as a Western by the way. Thank you Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, I definitely planned it that way

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consider one battle after another a west whoo

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having not seen it I could definitely see it

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falling into like a Western category just may

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come from an uninformed place I need to see it,

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but there's an element to that because That's

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about creating anarchy in time. Yeah Times changing

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in a place that we're a person who doesn't want

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to change with the times. A million ways to die

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in the West. Hyper aware Westerns blazing saddles

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like we talked about. So I think we should go...

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make this a Western, and maybe steer away from

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the comedy part. Yeah, we're going hard drama.

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Do you want to start the timer and then figure

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out how to do it? Yes, indeed. I think that's

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how we're going to have to do this. All right.

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Well, thank you, everybody, for listening to

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this. And if you like Westerns or not, we promise,

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I think. I think we promise, or I promise we

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think, we're gonna make a really cool Western.

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We're at least gonna try and make something to

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watch. I love them. I love love love Westerns.

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They're the guilty pleasure without the guilt,

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come on now. And also sometimes, surprisingly,

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can have very strong female characters. Yeah.

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Yeah. The Quick and the Dead. Not just that on

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the nose, but I fucking love that movie. That,

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honestly, I think is one of the best Westerns,

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and people get mad at me for saying it. I was

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like, it's the one of the most distilled Western

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stories. Because the beds aren't comfortable.

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Yeah, one of the most distilled Western stories

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you could get. It's like, we're going to have

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a shootout in the town, and we're just like,

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the whole thing's about a shootout. But there's

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a little boy. Where's that little boy coming

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from? Makes sense. Everybody was armed back then.

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It's great. Their next meal, nobody had it. Can

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you imagine? Yeah, just the drive of your life

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is that. Mm hmm. That was for most people living

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decent to modestly well. Yeah, you didn't know

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when you were next might not know where you're

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going to get water. Let's say you are the head

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of a film studio and you're told to make a Western

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called unfinished business. Mm hmm. Do you care

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if it sells and what do you want to make, you

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know? Are you making yeah, they're back in. You

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know, is it about, you know, is a historic character

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or in a unique profession within that area? I

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feel like this could definitely not to steal

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any of the thunder from that is unforgiven, but

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we could definitely kind of run in the vibes

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of like the unforgiven bit. Unfinished business

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feels like, I don't know, older gentleman or

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lady later in time kind of sort of right. Unfinished

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business. Something's happened. If we got to

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finish it, what's the thing? The trail? I feel

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like going to a movie called Unfinished Business

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and there's no resolving something, people would

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feel a little ripped off. Yeah, yeah. So we're

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going to finish the business, I think, is the

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whole point of this movie. Should Tom Cruise

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be in it as an interesting nod to risky business?

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No. No, as our nod to Young Guns. Young Guns?

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Did you know he's in Young Guns? He's in Young

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Guns. And like, all right, the very in a scene

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of Young Guns. Yes, sir. Tom Cruise. Yes, sir.

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Tom Cruise is in Young Guns. He was in the when

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you watch it back. He's in like the final shootout

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of the first movie like they're in the house

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or not. OK. And like there's this one dude has

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like a really large mustache. OK. And they zoom

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in on him. That's actually Tom Cruise. He was

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there visiting like Emilio on the day of. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. And they're like, you want to be

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in the scene? He's like, yeah, dude. And so then

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like they put him right in the center of frame.

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You do like nine stunts and then you gotta stop.

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Yeah, probably. He's like, let me let everybody

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know that it's me, Tom Cruise. So, yeah, I like

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the idea of it again, having business to finish.

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And what's great is there's so much fucking business

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to attend to in the old West. Yeah. Well, name

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it. You got to fucking deal with something. Who

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was I just talking? I think I was talking to

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one of our friends, Glenn, about that kind of

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stuff, about like People forgets like get out

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of Dodge was like legit like you showed up and

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it's like there's nothing else around what like

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you didn't just like show up and like house the

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raucous and it's like oh by the way like let

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me just skedaddle is like no no like you need

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to go like yeah keep going don't don't stop you

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know like there was there was a time when like

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that was a thing is there any interest in making

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a movie that's about the inventing of something

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that happened around the West Oh, now that could

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be fun, because I mean, we do often forget that

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like Edison and Tesla did exist. Right. You know,

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like the movies that started becoming prevalent

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was like around this time. Like, you know, movies

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are over 100 years old recently. Like, well,

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you have to forgive my grandfather. Like he grew

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up in the first school that was on the prairie

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in the land. And that was within our, you know,

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our lifetime ish. And times would be a change.

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And I was like, holy shit. And you mentioned

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the interest being when there's friction between

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a new element coming in, disruption of the old

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way to the new way. What if we ramp it up where

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it's not quite a Western in the idea of like.

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You know, it's happening like way far back in

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the West. What if it's more like turn of the

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century? Like there's still cars and stuff like

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early 20s kind of situation in my head. I don't

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know why I'm fascinated by that because I mean,

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because like there's the age of like cowboys

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existing all the way up until like and not to

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say like only cowboys existed out there. Like

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they don't exist anymore. But like the idea of

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like Well, what about a grudge that started way

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back when between two and it's lasted into a...

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Like a new age. But you still consider it a Western

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because it has this edge to it. You know what

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I mean? And it's literally on the nose. But what

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you've done is you're taking it through this

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specific point in time. Is it more interesting

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if it's in a... an interesting place. And historically,

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you might have to help, but I'm throwing out

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non -traditional places, New Orleans. Yeah, I

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was gonna say it was like the south. Do you know

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what I mean? Because that gives you a little

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more latitude for something like that, which

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is exciting, actually, Western around this time.

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I mean, even one of the most famous is, you know...

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Sundance in Busch Cassidy, you know, like they

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go down to Bolivia. Right. And it's like the

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whole thing is about their flee through Latin

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America. It is. Well, the whole movie is it's

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a on the run or on the run. Yeah. So I think

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the idea of unfinished business is whoever it

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is, they're coming back to a place. Right. The

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idea of like they're coming either to. get somebody

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or something. I'm sure you like the idea of it

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being between two main characters. Oh, so you

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can cast a young one and an old one. You could.

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You could also do very much like the good, the

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bad, the ugly, where you kind of have like this

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one person come into town and there's multiple

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factions that we're dealing with, kind of all

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vying for the same thing. I like the idea of

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tying it to something long standing that is is

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both. you know, evident in the 1800s and in the

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1920s, you know what I mean? Whatever it is,

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that's a fun hook. Yeah. So whether it's two

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people feuding throughout that time or one person

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dealing with something unique that, you know,

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pits them. Yeah. It's idea that's stolen. Is

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it is it vengeance for for? So, you know, all

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the traditional vengeance murder killed my family.

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Everybody's family is dead. Don't have a family

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in the West. Don't don't have a family always

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because you looked at somebody funny at the bar

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and spilled, you know, got ash in their drink.

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And now your family is fucking dead. I did kind

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of want to run the like I felt easy to fall into

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the dead family thing. But I'm wondering if instead

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of that, what if it's theft? Yeah, I was actually

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what if it was the family was theft? The unfinished

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business is this person. Yeah. Like fun, fun,

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fun. Like whoever, if it's a, it's a husband

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potentially, let's just say being the man that

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we are, let's say it's a man living the ultimate

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fantasies, go rescue his wife, much like Django

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unchained, you know, but instead of her being

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enslaved, the idea is like in my head that like

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she's from a prominent family who like fled the

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life or something like that. And like, Hey, they

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took the wife and the child and like they kind

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of left him for dead. And it's like, Hey, If

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you do live, don't ever come back. Don't do it.

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And it's been, you know, years, something like

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that. I think that's great. All right. I feel

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like we got a promise. Because the idea of, like,

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we could make the idea of the early family abduction

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to be for a really weird reason. Like, that's

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not necessarily as common. just family abducted.

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Like, what the fuck? I mean, realistically, like

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in the time frame that we're running in, it's

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like, depending on the family, you could say

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she was already in an arranged marriage and she

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ran off with somebody. Like, that's, you know,

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that's something that you can't do. That's a

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story that feels pretty compelling. Exactly.

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Exactly. And I feel like that would that be a

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Western that I don't think has been quite done.

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I don't know if you've seen one like that. I

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haven't seen one quite like that. Not off the

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top of the dome, at least, but there's hundreds

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of those. Well, I like taking these little nun

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You know, a little left turns because, well,

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it's all about masculine problems in the 1800s,

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typically. Right. And this is an interesting

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one because you leave somebody like just legitimately

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broken and you leave what could have been broken.

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But it has to take this leap to a modern age.

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And why does this come back? You know, why does

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this come back to haunt whoever the villain ultimately

00:23:27.490 --> 00:23:31.730
is? Yeah. And again, it like sitting for so long,

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and then you're like, what the fuck? We're talking

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like 10, 15, 20 years. Why do you care about

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this? How do you even know? Or is it the same

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person? So like, you can't have a 30 or 28 year

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old father of 10 in the 1800s. I guess you could.

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Here's this. What if instead of it's like the

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husband? What if this family, the husband and

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this lady that run off, if this is the story

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we're running with, they run off. We get the

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story of they fall in love and they have the

00:24:05.630 --> 00:24:08.730
family, right. But like so and so some group

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shows up to read reunite this woman with her

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real quotes family. Right. The fight happens.

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They end up absconding with her and leave this

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father figure husband for dead. only like their

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young child still alive and like witnessed this

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thing happen. So then we actually get to tell

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the story through like the kid trying to rescue

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their parent. And the kids could be any gender

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then. And then we kind of subvert the story that

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way. Just trying to spitball here and be like,

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because I think that could also be fun because

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it could be the idea of like they took their

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father's name potentially. Well, I guess, you

00:24:46.549 --> 00:24:50.430
know, if if it's young enough, like late 1800s,

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you know, 20 year old. You could have an older

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actor, right? You could. I like the idea of a

00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:58.539
family being taken for, like, this macabre reason.

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Yeah, like, oh, no, no, you've already been betrothed

00:25:02.119 --> 00:25:03.920
to somebody else. Well, it helped them build

00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:05.539
whatever they built, you know what I mean? I

00:25:05.539 --> 00:25:07.119
like this person having to, like... It bound

00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:09.759
these, like, two corporation family empires together.

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Yeah, and I like, you know, the idea of having

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to take down... some kind of something that's

00:25:16.079 --> 00:25:18.259
there like a shipping magnet. Yeah. You know

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what I mean? So it's not super modern, but it's

00:25:20.220 --> 00:25:22.740
modern enough. So you can have this bad ass re

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happening with this character. Yeah. You know,

00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:29.240
yeah. Rutger Hauer and his prime. All right.

00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:33.200
You know what I mean? But like the idea of. You

00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:35.220
know, that unforgiven, I mean, his vengeance

00:25:35.220 --> 00:25:39.680
is, you know, like, yes. All right. Do you imagine

00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:42.509
an older? male character. And if so, who do you

00:25:42.509 --> 00:25:44.190
want your older male character to be? Who do

00:25:44.190 --> 00:25:45.710
you want the father figure to be of this story?

00:25:45.769 --> 00:25:49.529
Who are you imagining? Do you have anybody in

00:25:49.529 --> 00:25:54.609
mind? The idea that it's a Western, unfortunately

00:25:54.609 --> 00:25:57.690
evokes a lot of the same people. So I love when

00:25:57.690 --> 00:26:01.890
they take a chance with somebody like Matt Damon

00:26:01.890 --> 00:26:05.369
in True Grit. That was really cool. It definitely

00:26:05.369 --> 00:26:07.970
was because he's not. But I could see I would

00:26:07.970 --> 00:26:10.900
love to see Matt Damon. this age do that because

00:26:10.900 --> 00:26:15.440
like definitely be a confine it with with and

00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:18.400
I never saw these but the born. Oh the shaky

00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:21.500
can pitch. Yeah. And it's like it's like Jason

00:26:21.500 --> 00:26:23.980
Bourne but he's from the West and he's trading

00:26:23.980 --> 00:26:27.039
a mob. That would be pretty fun. It's a mob.

00:26:27.180 --> 00:26:30.180
It's kind of a mob. It's an early mob Chicago

00:26:30.180 --> 00:26:33.160
story. It's an early. Is it still a Western in

00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:36.230
that sense. Well, yeah, really. I mean, the 20s,

00:26:36.309 --> 00:26:39.750
right? Like you can have overlap from you could

00:26:39.750 --> 00:26:41.910
like it's this mentality, but it doesn't have

00:26:41.910 --> 00:26:44.309
to be that because that may be to like two periods

00:26:44.309 --> 00:26:46.730
coming together. But I like the idea of it being

00:26:46.730 --> 00:26:51.250
late Western. That's the industrial age. And

00:26:51.250 --> 00:26:55.029
he is Robert Baron. They've profited off of this.

00:26:55.869 --> 00:26:58.049
Yeah. You know, and or you find out something

00:26:58.049 --> 00:27:00.609
horrible like he didn't he didn't really want

00:27:00.609 --> 00:27:02.799
me. He wanted. The little one, you know what

00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:05.539
I mean? So like the dudes married to a girl who's

00:27:05.539 --> 00:27:09.799
like way young and the wife has been like conscripted

00:27:09.799 --> 00:27:11.859
into something horrible. You find that out later.

00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:13.759
Yeah. You know, like, oh, you think they just

00:27:13.759 --> 00:27:15.539
needed the family as a placeholder, but really

00:27:15.539 --> 00:27:18.380
like fucking traumatize these people initially.

00:27:18.700 --> 00:27:20.359
And then we can definitely get with some, you

00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:23.079
know what I mean? All right. So this is a good

00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:26.319
framework for the story. Yeah. Do you want to

00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:28.700
keep trying to go track down an actor or do you

00:27:28.700 --> 00:27:29.920
want to follow? Well, thinking about younger,

00:27:30.220 --> 00:27:32.039
I was, so this is interesting. You're thinking

00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:34.400
about kind of main character. I started with

00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:37.640
the younger version, but let me throw it back

00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:40.640
in your court and I'll still think for the main

00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:43.519
badass, you know, I mentioned Tom Cruise, you're

00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:46.779
looking, but in somebody that like you can do

00:27:46.779 --> 00:27:50.049
makeup on. but is kind of older. I said a Rutger

00:27:50.049 --> 00:27:53.210
Hauer, which is like, you know, that fengency

00:27:53.210 --> 00:27:55.970
thing. Is our main bad here? Are they? Yeah,

00:27:55.970 --> 00:27:58.670
but what do you want out of them? Are we imagining

00:27:58.670 --> 00:28:01.369
like a true one to one comparison? Are you talking

00:28:01.369 --> 00:28:04.430
like, I want like a patriarchal, like head of

00:28:04.430 --> 00:28:07.569
the family, mafioso kind of style Don? No, because

00:28:07.569 --> 00:28:10.269
the main character is nobody. He's nobody. I

00:28:10.269 --> 00:28:12.490
got you. Because he was supposed to be somebody.

00:28:12.549 --> 00:28:14.369
He was supposed to just at least have a family.

00:28:15.490 --> 00:28:19.490
So. But somebody who is maybe tied to a Western,

00:28:19.630 --> 00:28:21.869
you know, who has that swagger. Somebody who's

00:28:21.869 --> 00:28:25.269
got that factor. Maybe the known for it. OK.

00:28:25.450 --> 00:28:28.009
And I hate to say McConaughey. It would be fun

00:28:28.009 --> 00:28:30.890
to see him play a bad guy. Take his intensity

00:28:30.890 --> 00:28:34.009
from Rain of Fire. Just hear me out. Maybe even

00:28:34.009 --> 00:28:37.789
have him bald. Bald McConaughey? Like, OK, still

00:28:37.789 --> 00:28:41.099
wears the hat. Fucking bald. Bald McConaughey.

00:28:41.740 --> 00:28:44.200
And his veins are hanging out of his head. Dude

00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:48.559
is just super intense. But quiet. However he

00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:51.319
wants to do it, but you know he can still get

00:28:51.319 --> 00:28:53.039
kind of ripped. I was going to say, is this man

00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:56.980
that he's portraying, is he the right hand? I'm

00:28:56.980 --> 00:29:00.259
imagining if he is, he's the go -getter. This

00:29:00.259 --> 00:29:02.079
is the guy that the family... He could be anything.

00:29:03.200 --> 00:29:08.299
If we're being really true about it... He's been

00:29:08.299 --> 00:29:10.259
everything has been taken from him. That's a

00:29:10.259 --> 00:29:12.700
great and that what it hones, you know, a single

00:29:12.700 --> 00:29:16.240
minded psychopath. Yeah. And so you have that

00:29:16.240 --> 00:29:20.440
to lean into because like, but it's the Western

00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:22.539
and he's cool and he's sitting around and he's

00:29:22.539 --> 00:29:26.119
watching this industrial revolution start to

00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:28.799
happen. He watch, you know, he may. I think it's

00:29:28.799 --> 00:29:33.519
cool if he's, you know, cooler with native people,

00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:37.440
with black people. OK, so like. You really show

00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:42.440
how evil things are getting and gotten. People

00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:44.900
of all walks of life. And that like that like

00:29:44.900 --> 00:29:47.259
helps, you know, like ultimately in the finale,

00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:51.920
like because of his alliances with real people,

00:29:52.299 --> 00:29:56.559
you know, whatever is taken down or like or it's

00:29:56.559 --> 00:30:00.180
a crocodile Dundee to situation and their drug

00:30:00.180 --> 00:30:04.119
back to the West. Oh, so he could have something

00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:07.369
of theirs. Okay. So it's their fish out of water,

00:30:07.549 --> 00:30:10.430
maybe a little bit of his and then, so it's like

00:30:10.430 --> 00:30:14.650
the op of kidnapping, whatever. And then the

00:30:14.650 --> 00:30:17.970
remainder is like them. This is the score in

00:30:17.970 --> 00:30:20.450
his backyard, maybe. So that is another thought

00:30:20.450 --> 00:30:21.950
because it gives you a little bit of both. All

00:30:21.950 --> 00:30:24.230
right. So we're thinking you want me to find

00:30:24.230 --> 00:30:27.579
an antagonist that's got a great Oh, you're looking

00:30:27.579 --> 00:30:29.880
for a bad person? I don't know. You're the one

00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:31.819
that sent me down this track of McConaughey rain

00:30:31.819 --> 00:30:34.759
of fire style. And I'm like, oh, who who would

00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:37.880
who would be that guy? I think that's a tough

00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:40.900
adversary. That's a tough adversary. I think

00:30:40.900 --> 00:30:43.839
McConaughey is a big presence on screen. If he

00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:46.099
puts ever again, I'm obsessed with that character

00:30:46.099 --> 00:30:49.440
in that movie. Again, his he's great. Temples

00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:52.960
on the side of his head deserved to be recognized.

00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:57.289
It's so intense. All right. I got somebody. I

00:30:57.289 --> 00:31:01.690
think. Don't say Christian Bale. No, no. As funny

00:31:01.690 --> 00:31:04.769
as it would be to reunite them. Or Gerard Butler.

00:31:05.009 --> 00:31:07.930
Also hysterical. Also hysterical. Man, another

00:31:07.930 --> 00:31:11.529
tie in to Jerry B today. No. Danny Glover prime.

00:31:11.849 --> 00:31:16.049
Danny Glover prime. Oh, oh. How prime we're talking.

00:31:16.490 --> 00:31:18.430
Give me the prime. When you're talking prime.

00:31:18.769 --> 00:31:22.250
Oh. Just so I can imagine maybe well like it

00:31:22.250 --> 00:31:24.470
would have to be a little generational, but you

00:31:24.470 --> 00:31:27.930
know starting with Silverado Okay, okay, you

00:31:27.930 --> 00:31:29.390
think I don't know. Who are you thinking? I've

00:31:29.390 --> 00:31:31.529
been throwing throwing stupid stuff at you. I

00:31:31.529 --> 00:31:36.309
was I was Going a little new and I did say In

00:31:36.309 --> 00:31:38.349
my like descriptions, this is why I like you

00:31:38.349 --> 00:31:41.349
but Chris pine. I think Chris pine would be really

00:31:41.349 --> 00:31:44.470
great. Sorry. It would be really great. I love

00:31:44.470 --> 00:31:47.450
him Yeah, heller high water is and we've got

00:31:47.450 --> 00:31:51.420
like a fucking masterpiece. Yeah, it's he definitely

00:31:51.420 --> 00:31:53.740
undersells that movie in a way that people don't

00:31:53.740 --> 00:31:55.839
understand. I don't know why he didn't get more

00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:58.839
awards. Yeah. To be the intensity. All right.

00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:01.819
So is Chris Pine like are you saying he's our

00:32:01.819 --> 00:32:05.019
father figure here? He's he's our sad. He's our

00:32:05.019 --> 00:32:08.339
sad dad. Is he going to be our sad dad? Oh, we

00:32:08.339 --> 00:32:10.420
may father. I thought you meant the villain.

00:32:10.500 --> 00:32:12.460
Oh, is he our villain? Yeah. I just want to make

00:32:12.460 --> 00:32:14.380
sure I'm clarifying because I'm like, we've talked

00:32:14.380 --> 00:32:15.980
about the figure. Who's the father? I don't know.

00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:17.900
That's why it's like if the villains Chris Pine,

00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:20.299
which it is. Yeah. Like, I just want to make

00:32:20.299 --> 00:32:22.920
sure I was like my brain. I was like, I'm trying

00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:25.839
to juggle over here. My brain needs to represent

00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:29.160
the the progenitor of the evil to begin with.

00:32:29.220 --> 00:32:33.420
So he is. With makeup what however the fuck all

00:32:33.420 --> 00:32:35.119
right, you know, here's he here's kind of the

00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:38.619
idea main descendant who is the target of this

00:32:38.619 --> 00:32:41.519
1920s thing I think what we need to do is we

00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:44.839
need to bring in a bit historical context like

00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:47.920
the Pinkerton's are an agency that still exists

00:32:48.190 --> 00:32:49.950
They've been bought out by another private agency.

00:32:50.069 --> 00:32:51.809
So they're not like quite the same as like the

00:32:51.809 --> 00:32:55.190
ones from like the Jesse James war era used to

00:32:55.190 --> 00:32:57.309
protect the president. But they still exist.

00:32:57.450 --> 00:32:59.809
But like they're still a private agency. But

00:32:59.809 --> 00:33:02.269
they actually there's a law in the United States

00:33:02.269 --> 00:33:04.670
that they're not allowed to work with the United

00:33:04.670 --> 00:33:06.630
States of America because they do some shady

00:33:06.630 --> 00:33:10.289
stuff. So yeah. So as an agency they're tied

00:33:10.289 --> 00:33:12.829
more to the job than anything else. And they

00:33:12.829 --> 00:33:15.710
like quote unquote do anything. And I mean like

00:33:15.930 --> 00:33:18.190
anything to kind of get the job done. That means

00:33:18.190 --> 00:33:20.630
like blackmail extortion, all that kind of stuff.

00:33:20.750 --> 00:33:23.190
Wow. Yeah. And this started like in the eighteen

00:33:23.190 --> 00:33:25.089
hundreds. So it's like we could theoretically

00:33:25.089 --> 00:33:28.150
have him be like a Pinkerton or Pinkerton esque

00:33:28.150 --> 00:33:30.430
agent who's like his whole job is like, no, no,

00:33:30.430 --> 00:33:32.470
no, I'm hiring you to bring this woman back.

00:33:32.509 --> 00:33:35.650
I don't care what the job requires you to do

00:33:35.650 --> 00:33:37.950
it. I'm sure there's some content about that,

00:33:38.230 --> 00:33:41.730
but the idea of that is really fun. Yeah, I just

00:33:41.730 --> 00:33:45.309
like the idea of a lion wait like and again.

00:33:45.259 --> 00:33:47.299
And at a certain point, progress was progressing

00:33:47.299 --> 00:33:50.180
pretty fast. Yeah. So if you've watched Deadwood,

00:33:50.299 --> 00:33:52.380
they talk about that. We're like the in the show.

00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:54.420
Deadwood. Yeah, because like at one point in

00:33:54.420 --> 00:33:55.859
the early season, they're out in the middle of

00:33:55.859 --> 00:33:57.619
nowhere. Then as time goes on, like in the late

00:33:57.619 --> 00:34:00.119
last season, I think they're like the future

00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:02.279
is here because telegram lines started making

00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:04.460
it to Deadwood. And it's like. before they were

00:34:04.460 --> 00:34:05.799
in the middle of nowhere. They were, you know,

00:34:05.900 --> 00:34:08.139
miles from anything. You know, there was no quote

00:34:08.139 --> 00:34:10.739
unquote law because it didn't exist. But that's

00:34:10.739 --> 00:34:12.780
like now we've got telegrams coming in and it's

00:34:12.780 --> 00:34:14.639
like I can reach anywhere in the world within

00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:17.099
a couple of minutes. It's like insane. And then,

00:34:17.099 --> 00:34:20.139
yeah, I'd like those those benchmark moments

00:34:20.139 --> 00:34:22.679
not only in history, but if they film them right.

00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:24.980
You're like, holy shit. Yeah. So Chris Prine

00:34:24.980 --> 00:34:29.710
as our private investigator bad guy just. Is

00:34:29.710 --> 00:34:33.429
he like suave or is he just like cold, menacing,

00:34:33.690 --> 00:34:35.690
just like says nothing and just stares at you

00:34:35.690 --> 00:34:39.130
with his blue eyes? I think we need to counter

00:34:39.130 --> 00:34:43.989
McConaughey's rain of fire situation. Yeah. And

00:34:43.989 --> 00:34:47.610
everybody loves Chris Pine. He's pretty smooth.

00:34:48.010 --> 00:34:51.090
He's got that back. I think he needs to be shirtless

00:34:51.090 --> 00:34:54.030
a little. This is going to be a beefcake fast.

00:34:54.389 --> 00:34:57.010
It's a Western. It's OK. But Pine needs hair.

00:34:57.230 --> 00:35:00.130
Okay, long hair. Yeah, maybe like bottle shock

00:35:00.130 --> 00:35:03.170
long like long. Yeah He's gonna be wearing a

00:35:03.170 --> 00:35:04.630
cowboy hat. Don't worry. Yeah, he's gonna be

00:35:04.630 --> 00:35:06.909
wearing a hat It'll be out of place even for

00:35:06.909 --> 00:35:09.730
that time. Yeah, just long and shaggy Chris pine.

00:35:10.170 --> 00:35:15.210
Yeah, I can see he's clearly Doing his own thing.

00:35:15.389 --> 00:35:18.170
Yes, sir. Yeah, he's just the man. He's just

00:35:18.170 --> 00:35:20.969
he's gonna be terrifying Yeah, on -screen presence

00:35:20.969 --> 00:35:24.329
will be terrifying. Yes, but Venice like charming,

00:35:24.449 --> 00:35:26.789
but you know, I'm kind of getting the vibes of

00:35:26.789 --> 00:35:29.250
Daniel Craig and last wrote a petition. Like

00:35:29.250 --> 00:35:34.289
I could see it. Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking of

00:35:34.289 --> 00:35:38.909
Leo and, and Django. Oh, okay. Yeah. Jesus. I

00:35:38.909 --> 00:35:43.489
mean, so scary and tense, like don't even know

00:35:43.489 --> 00:35:46.250
how they did it on the day. Yeah. You know, it

00:35:46.250 --> 00:35:49.420
truly. All right. So Chris plain is, is He's

00:35:49.420 --> 00:35:52.340
capable so much, as is Matthew McConaughey. Yeah.

00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:55.199
All right. So him and Matthew McConaughey just

00:35:55.199 --> 00:35:58.380
as these two intense, almost bounty hunter PI

00:35:58.380 --> 00:36:01.579
kind of characters. These are our people. These

00:36:01.579 --> 00:36:04.780
are. Are they both villains or they're just both?

00:36:04.820 --> 00:36:06.579
No, no, no, no. Want to make sure that's why

00:36:06.579 --> 00:36:08.800
I'm like, we're making it live on the spot. He's

00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:11.519
our hero. So we have a super intense. So he's

00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:14.519
a happy -go -lucky, lovey guy. Matthew McConaughey,

00:36:14.940 --> 00:36:17.699
him and his family have fled. Do we want young

00:36:17.699 --> 00:36:20.139
McConaughey cast or do you want to just like

00:36:20.139 --> 00:36:22.960
adage him? Is it more better use of our time

00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:25.440
and budget? No, I think... Is there anybody you

00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:27.719
can think of that really is a good... They could

00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:30.019
play a young McConaughey. He's going to be bald.

00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:32.500
I mean, I don't think I'll matter too much. I

00:36:32.500 --> 00:36:33.739
think he needs to start out with hair. Yeah.

00:36:33.860 --> 00:36:35.780
So you do need to see a young version of him

00:36:35.780 --> 00:36:37.320
at some point. Yeah. I think you could definitely

00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:40.110
flashback it to... It would definitely be a case

00:36:40.110 --> 00:36:42.630
where we find a similar looking actor to portray

00:36:42.630 --> 00:36:44.690
him. So if we figure it out, we can figure it

00:36:44.690 --> 00:36:46.630
out. That's great. Yeah. If we could think of

00:36:46.630 --> 00:36:48.889
some way that'd be like, let's do it. How about

00:36:48.889 --> 00:36:54.170
young Will Poulter? Just because. Yeah. Well,

00:36:54.170 --> 00:36:57.730
he could do it. Why not? Will Poulter be a great

00:36:57.730 --> 00:36:59.309
young Matthew McConaughey? Do you know what?

00:36:59.349 --> 00:37:03.590
Can we use him as himself in a double role? Oh,

00:37:03.849 --> 00:37:07.289
he grows up. Like somebody else later. He plays

00:37:07.289 --> 00:37:11.010
the kid a bad guy like Pines number one henchman.

00:37:11.090 --> 00:37:14.369
Oh He's he's also there later as somebody else.

00:37:14.369 --> 00:37:16.829
Sure. Yeah, like pines henchman. Yeah. Yeah.

00:37:16.849 --> 00:37:20.989
Yeah Total nut bag. Yes, because will polders

00:37:20.989 --> 00:37:24.530
great Okay, that's great. All right. All right

00:37:24.530 --> 00:37:28.550
So like who's who's this lady that we that McConaughey

00:37:28.550 --> 00:37:30.710
falls head over heels for saves her from her

00:37:30.710 --> 00:37:35.659
her arranged marriage How is that so I don't

00:37:35.659 --> 00:37:37.940
I don't know I forget how we got there so the

00:37:37.940 --> 00:37:40.360
idea I'm coming wet This is like she's part of

00:37:40.360 --> 00:37:44.440
like this this giant like magnet Family like

00:37:44.440 --> 00:37:46.980
shipping magnets like she's part of like this

00:37:46.980 --> 00:37:49.980
upper crust echelon family We're talking like

00:37:49.980 --> 00:37:52.760
late 1800s like she's arranged marriage with

00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:56.519
road something. She's not with she's not with

00:37:56.519 --> 00:37:58.619
McConaughey's character. She's actually like

00:37:58.619 --> 00:38:01.699
he's just a guy or a friend or something to that

00:38:01.699 --> 00:38:06.110
effect You know as the story progresses, you

00:38:06.110 --> 00:38:08.829
know, but the idea is they they run away together

00:38:08.829 --> 00:38:11.070
I think they didn't they fall madly in love But

00:38:11.070 --> 00:38:13.750
then the the the terribleness comes after you

00:38:13.750 --> 00:38:15.809
know a few years after their firstborn or something

00:38:15.809 --> 00:38:18.889
like that You know the PI tracks them down out

00:38:18.889 --> 00:38:21.150
in the West and I'm gonna throw this one out

00:38:21.150 --> 00:38:24.389
here Yeah, it may may change the throws the Pinkerton

00:38:24.389 --> 00:38:27.349
thing off. Maybe not. Let's hear it But I'd like

00:38:27.349 --> 00:38:30.969
the idea that McConaughey has this family He

00:38:30.969 --> 00:38:34.030
already has it. Yeah. Okay. Taken. Oh, and the

00:38:34.030 --> 00:38:37.869
reason why is pine just needed to look decent.

00:38:38.409 --> 00:38:41.969
Oh, okay. To get this business thing done. What

00:38:41.969 --> 00:38:44.250
was the business thing he needs to finish business?

00:38:44.309 --> 00:38:46.530
That could be, you know, like the empire. You

00:38:46.530 --> 00:38:48.789
know what I mean? That's the simplicity of it.

00:38:48.809 --> 00:38:51.789
It's just like, I am a raging psychopath and

00:38:51.789 --> 00:38:55.429
he just needed some people to act like a family

00:38:55.429 --> 00:38:58.469
for a little bit. It just did it. And then he

00:38:58.469 --> 00:39:02.179
kept them. Oh, wow. You know, I got fawned for

00:39:02.179 --> 00:39:04.000
the little one, you know? Like, you find, sorry.

00:39:04.000 --> 00:39:05.420
That would be terrifying. That's what I was saying

00:39:05.420 --> 00:39:07.780
earlier. Like, you think he's going to just,

00:39:08.000 --> 00:39:09.760
oh, he's going to take the wife and raise the

00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:11.840
daughter. No. Like, you find out later. Oh my

00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:15.360
God. The wife is like, you know, cast off to

00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:18.019
a brothel. You know, horrible stuff, right? Yeah.

00:39:18.260 --> 00:39:20.340
So, but you find, you can find it out later.

00:39:20.460 --> 00:39:24.300
Okay. But it's enough to know that his family

00:39:24.300 --> 00:39:28.320
was taken. but to find out the kind of banality

00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:30.619
of the reason. Yeah, like for no reason other

00:39:30.619 --> 00:39:32.619
than just cause. I just needed them. They looked

00:39:32.619 --> 00:39:35.239
all right. And you don't mean anything. Here's

00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:36.500
the question. That's the thing. Like you just

00:39:36.500 --> 00:39:39.599
don't mean anything. And that's the thing. I

00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:41.119
think I know how you could set this up. Are you

00:39:41.119 --> 00:39:43.760
ready for this? I think the idea is like wherever

00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:46.000
they're living at, McConaughey's character has

00:39:46.000 --> 00:39:48.750
gone off to like... do a supply run or something

00:39:48.750 --> 00:39:51.809
like that. God damn it. I'll be back in three

00:39:51.809 --> 00:39:54.869
months. Or like a couple of days in that time

00:39:54.869 --> 00:39:56.949
frame. They need anything, you tell me now. Yeah,

00:39:56.949 --> 00:39:59.610
and when he comes back, yeah, his wife and child

00:39:59.610 --> 00:40:01.929
have been taken. Yeah, that would be quite a

00:40:01.929 --> 00:40:03.570
story on finished business. So he's got to like

00:40:03.570 --> 00:40:07.630
figure this out. Yeah. And you can cut to, you

00:40:07.630 --> 00:40:10.250
know, but like these are the important pieces

00:40:10.250 --> 00:40:13.809
of the story. But the ultimate deal is he is

00:40:13.809 --> 00:40:17.960
back. you know, and he's waited the whole time,

00:40:18.179 --> 00:40:20.579
figured this thing out and he's, it took him

00:40:20.579 --> 00:40:22.539
some time to figure out what could happen as

00:40:22.539 --> 00:40:24.260
the bulk of the rest of the story could happen

00:40:24.260 --> 00:40:28.159
in 1920s ish time. Or again, I suggested one

00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:31.719
idea is that you can mash them. And part of his

00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:36.820
plan is to take something of his, of Pine's,

00:40:36.860 --> 00:40:39.599
you know, kidnap somebody, you know, like, he

00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:41.739
doesn't want whatever - So Pine ends up as this

00:40:41.739 --> 00:40:43.940
giant empire - No, so in the 1920s, what businesses

00:40:43.940 --> 00:40:45.880
are had? Typewriter, you know, whatever. Like,

00:40:46.099 --> 00:40:49.800
he's done something, and it's gotten him these

00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:52.119
deals throughout - the years, but he just needed

00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:55.019
to look like a proper citizen. So somehow he

00:40:55.019 --> 00:40:57.159
kidnapped a whole family to do it and he's just

00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:00.440
a fucking psycho. He created a whole family persona

00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:03.099
based around this family and became like an outstanding

00:41:03.099 --> 00:41:04.860
person. I couldn't make a holograph, you know,

00:41:04.860 --> 00:41:08.019
like, and that's in some, you know, I mean, unless

00:41:08.019 --> 00:41:10.559
that's too stupid, but the simplicity of it and

00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:13.480
how evil is. The banality of it, I think, is

00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:16.500
really great. I do like the evil banality because

00:41:16.500 --> 00:41:19.380
that is pretty evil. I don't know if it's quite

00:41:19.380 --> 00:41:23.769
the tone. But I like the banality. I'll poke

00:41:23.769 --> 00:41:27.769
holes in it. Who, in order to do business, makes

00:41:27.769 --> 00:41:29.550
you show that you have a family? I don't know.

00:41:29.969 --> 00:41:33.650
In the West, it was proper. They liked propriety.

00:41:34.429 --> 00:41:36.469
This whole thing is he's had to suppress the

00:41:36.469 --> 00:41:38.429
fact that he's a fucking demon this whole time.

00:41:39.690 --> 00:41:42.449
And it started with this thing. And he's done

00:41:42.449 --> 00:41:45.440
other things. You can expose that. And he's a

00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:49.059
bad guy. But this thing, taking the family, which

00:41:49.059 --> 00:41:51.219
could be, you know, part of other things, to

00:41:51.219 --> 00:41:54.460
present this front, that isn't there, that helped

00:41:54.460 --> 00:41:57.460
him gain the trust of somebody else. And there

00:41:57.460 --> 00:42:00.320
could be, like, marrying off or whatever. Like,

00:42:00.380 --> 00:42:04.179
oh, I married her off. I didn't care. But the

00:42:04.179 --> 00:42:07.559
idea that you think he just decided to keep them,

00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:10.159
and then you're like, oh, that's bad. Oh, he

00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:13.340
took the wife. No. What if he threw the wife

00:42:13.340 --> 00:42:17.519
away and he took the daughter? Yeah. Yeah. Now

00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:20.500
you have all this like that feels pretty dark.

00:42:20.539 --> 00:42:23.719
Yeah. And a lot of Westerns are a lot of Westerns

00:42:23.719 --> 00:42:25.860
are dark. That's true. That's a good point. Good

00:42:25.860 --> 00:42:28.860
point. Good counter. I can see it. I can see

00:42:28.860 --> 00:42:31.699
these things. This is why he's mad. Logan. This

00:42:31.699 --> 00:42:34.980
is why he's a mad man. And the thing is, you

00:42:34.980 --> 00:42:37.820
know, he's had the family enough to really care

00:42:37.820 --> 00:42:41.320
for them. You know what I mean? Like And that's

00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:43.480
why you're like, well, why would this guy be

00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:46.579
that upset? Well, this feels a lot like taken

00:42:46.579 --> 00:42:49.940
1990s. And that's the idea of like a whole family

00:42:49.940 --> 00:42:54.500
is taken. Yeah, I think for no reason, just he

00:42:54.500 --> 00:42:56.659
needed somebody and you were gone and you don't

00:42:56.659 --> 00:43:00.039
mean anything. Yeah. And it helped me do this.

00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:02.739
And oh, golly, this all happened, too. And what

00:43:02.739 --> 00:43:05.849
if he committed some crime along the way? Like

00:43:05.849 --> 00:43:08.849
just to say like he robbed a bank or like somehow

00:43:08.849 --> 00:43:12.650
the family ends up being. No, no, the Chris Pines

00:43:12.650 --> 00:43:15.570
character. OK, like he abducts his family. They

00:43:15.570 --> 00:43:17.889
commit a crime and then they also become complicit.

00:43:17.989 --> 00:43:19.969
So his thing's like, look, you can't you can't

00:43:19.969 --> 00:43:22.789
go back. You're also wanted. Like you're kind

00:43:22.789 --> 00:43:25.750
of stuck with me and it's like that would be.

00:43:26.090 --> 00:43:28.010
Well, I mean, back then I could see it. You could

00:43:28.010 --> 00:43:30.769
just kidnap a family and terrorize them enough.

00:43:30.909 --> 00:43:33.719
Yeah. And after enough time, they either kill

00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:36.059
themselves or go crazy. And that's life now.

00:43:36.679 --> 00:43:39.000
Yeah. All right. So like they're they're made

00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:43.599
to, you know, comply or like in the threat is

00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:46.880
your dad is dead. Yeah. Like they'll think like

00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:48.900
they're going to go back and then eventually

00:43:48.900 --> 00:43:50.480
they're like, oh, you're not letting this back.

00:43:50.539 --> 00:43:53.360
All right. To change gears slightly. Yeah. Do

00:43:53.360 --> 00:43:55.179
we have somebody you want to direct this thing?

00:43:55.960 --> 00:44:00.280
Somebody you think that not. exclusively westerns

00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:02.719
focus, but could do a western. Stephen King.

00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:06.099
Stephen King, the director. I was like, oh, he

00:44:06.099 --> 00:44:07.900
only directed one movie. It's very well known

00:44:07.900 --> 00:44:12.139
about that. Who? Well, this is really challenging

00:44:12.139 --> 00:44:15.239
because the look of this is going to set a lot.

00:44:15.340 --> 00:44:18.139
Kind of varied. There's going to be real locations.

00:44:18.380 --> 00:44:21.260
There's going to be, you know, tech needed. There's

00:44:21.260 --> 00:44:25.300
going to be cities like city ish, you know, period

00:44:25.300 --> 00:44:31.130
cars set decorations got to be. Super spot on.

00:44:32.090 --> 00:44:39.960
I'm trying to think of movie. His gears I see

00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:43.860
him turning. Yeah Chug chug chug chug chug. I

00:44:43.860 --> 00:44:45.920
I mean I have a big name a giant name. Don't

00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:48.239
say Clint Eastwood. We can't know No, I was gonna

00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:50.639
say he's too but he's too burdened but but I

00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:53.179
do have a name but it's like what if What if

00:44:53.179 --> 00:44:55.639
you give something like this to Spielberg like

00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:57.599
make it would you get out of my brain? Cuz I

00:44:57.599 --> 00:44:59.679
was gonna throw Spielberg at this I was honestly

00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:01.059
on the same wavelength I was gonna say I was

00:45:01.059 --> 00:45:02.780
like I think this feels like a Spielberg movie

00:45:02.780 --> 00:45:07.289
like get edgy, but we need your We sense of scale

00:45:07.289 --> 00:45:09.929
and fantasy. I think we need the epicness, the

00:45:09.929 --> 00:45:11.849
scale of this to be. I can't believe we've gone

00:45:11.849 --> 00:45:14.630
to Spielberg. I can't. It's so early, so early

00:45:14.630 --> 00:45:18.369
in this amalgamation of a show. We've gone to

00:45:18.369 --> 00:45:20.070
Spielberg. Well, not to say we can't come back

00:45:20.070 --> 00:45:21.690
to him, but I think that, yeah, I don't know.

00:45:21.789 --> 00:45:23.670
I feel like this feels like let's let's have

00:45:23.670 --> 00:45:26.489
him wait in the waiting room. Yeah. Yeah. We'll

00:45:26.489 --> 00:45:28.829
put him on the couch meeting potentially. Yeah.

00:45:29.349 --> 00:45:33.070
Yeah. Steven, is it? Can you send Kate in here,

00:45:33.230 --> 00:45:38.869
please? Is it? Oh, she's converted. I'd love

00:45:38.869 --> 00:45:41.409
for Kate Capshaw prime to be in this as the saloon

00:45:41.409 --> 00:45:44.050
singer. If we're getting Spielberg, we're getting

00:45:44.050 --> 00:45:46.469
her. Let's see. I don't know if that's true anymore,

00:45:46.489 --> 00:45:49.550
but if I could, I don't know. How about Catherine

00:45:49.550 --> 00:45:52.170
Bigelow? She'd probably do a killer job in this

00:45:52.170 --> 00:45:56.289
Western. Yeah. Didn't she direct the quick and

00:45:56.289 --> 00:45:59.150
the dead? No, Catherine Bigelow. That would be

00:45:59.150 --> 00:46:02.269
Sam Raimi to the quick and the dead. Did he really?

00:46:02.389 --> 00:46:05.920
Yes, sir. That's wow. Oh, no wonder that's such

00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:09.500
a good movie. Yeah, tight, quick -paced, Gene

00:46:09.500 --> 00:46:13.659
Hackman, Russell Crowe, Sharon Stone, Leo. Can

00:46:13.659 --> 00:46:17.280
I stop with the tremendous excitement over Spielberg

00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:19.559
and say Bigelow immediately? Yeah, you want to

00:46:19.559 --> 00:46:21.260
dial in on Catherine Bigelow? Yeah, I think she

00:46:21.260 --> 00:46:24.480
can make it grit as gnarly as we need it. 100%.

00:46:24.480 --> 00:46:28.679
Great job. That's a great one. I think, again,

00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:32.820
another writer -director. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It

00:46:32.820 --> 00:46:35.500
seems to be the trope that we like these writers,

00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:37.300
directors. I think we really like having somebody

00:46:37.300 --> 00:46:41.300
with an actual vision for this thing that we

00:46:41.300 --> 00:46:46.219
are pitching to them. Well, holy cow. That's

00:46:46.219 --> 00:46:51.219
great. We've hit some basic tropes of people

00:46:51.219 --> 00:46:55.219
and things that we need. I keep remembering that

00:46:55.219 --> 00:46:57.980
Taylor Sheridan is the one who wrote, um, hell

00:46:57.980 --> 00:47:00.519
or high water. Yeah, he's, he's definitely got

00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:04.659
the Western's, um, block in, in the last decade,

00:47:04.659 --> 00:47:07.440
15 year. There's nothing wrong with being modern.

00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:09.760
It would definitely fall under a neo Western.

00:47:09.940 --> 00:47:11.719
Not to say that that's not a Western. That's

00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:13.659
just new Western. That's all, that's all I'm

00:47:13.659 --> 00:47:16.599
saying. It's slightly different. It's Westerns

00:47:16.599 --> 00:47:20.079
for a new age. Catherine Bigelow, full creative

00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:23.260
license here. Chris Pine, Matthew McConaughey,

00:47:23.440 --> 00:47:27.039
top of the game. Who do we see as this mother

00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:31.389
figure? You keep going to my father and mother

00:47:31.389 --> 00:47:34.349
figures. Are you revealing something? Am I am

00:47:34.349 --> 00:47:37.429
I throwing something? I just like this Who else

00:47:37.429 --> 00:47:39.530
is gonna? Okay, you need who else is McConaughey

00:47:39.530 --> 00:47:42.289
going to chase down? Yes, it's not like his wife

00:47:42.289 --> 00:47:44.869
slash mother of his child Wilford Brimley should

00:47:44.869 --> 00:47:48.570
be in this Oh, okay. I do not know who that is.

00:47:48.610 --> 00:47:52.429
I need a fine. Never mind If you want to look

00:47:52.429 --> 00:47:54.960
at I need to look it up. Yeah Yes. Give me some

00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:58.119
movies while I look up. While we're being selfish,

00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:02.860
can we put Sam Neal in it as a wise man? Oh,

00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:05.920
as like he's along the way? I don't give a shit.

00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:08.619
Sam Neal needs to be in it. I don't care if it's

00:48:08.619 --> 00:48:11.059
cliche. Does he have a great, thick Irish accent?

00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:17.000
Irish? He's Irish. Oh, no. Or who am I thinking

00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:20.440
of? Sam Neal. All right. Am I spacing? I believe.

00:48:23.099 --> 00:48:25.539
Same Neil. Let me pull. Ladies and gentlemen,

00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:27.739
I apologize. I'm doing. I'm doing. Yeah, I'm

00:48:27.739 --> 00:48:29.960
brain. I'm confusing myself. My brain. The different

00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:31.960
actor. What's wrong? He's a New Zealand man,

00:48:31.980 --> 00:48:34.519
but he also has a great, great Irish accent because

00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:36.199
you've seen him in Peaky Blinders. I'm thinking

00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:38.059
of the wrong person. You're thinking of the wrong

00:48:38.059 --> 00:48:39.719
person. It's like, man, I was like, man, I thought

00:48:39.719 --> 00:48:41.760
for sure you had Irish. It's not, Shep. You know

00:48:41.760 --> 00:48:45.260
who I'm talking about. Do I? I don't know. Yeah.

00:48:45.820 --> 00:48:47.860
You know, you know, the Kool -Aid man, you know,

00:48:48.059 --> 00:48:51.119
the guy in the roadhouse, right? Yes. It's not.

00:48:51.400 --> 00:48:55.780
You know, it's not Patrick Swayze. No, it's it's

00:48:55.780 --> 00:48:58.320
come on. I don't know. People are dying right

00:48:58.320 --> 00:48:59.920
now. They're there. Everybody's joking themselves.

00:49:00.059 --> 00:49:05.000
Barts and Sam Elliott. Yes. OK. Sam Elliott and

00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:07.739
another Western, of course. Of course, as the

00:49:07.739 --> 00:49:10.099
wise wandering shaman do. McCann Hayes, dad.

00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:13.260
McCann Hayes, dad. He finds him somewhere out

00:49:13.260 --> 00:49:15.099
in the wilderness. No, he's been there the whole

00:49:15.099 --> 00:49:17.789
time. He's been there. He's got he's got. And

00:49:17.789 --> 00:49:19.769
I can't believe they went to town together. That's

00:49:19.769 --> 00:49:22.650
what it was. I had this conniption over Sam.

00:49:22.909 --> 00:49:25.250
I don't know. Sam Neal's pretty great. So I mean,

00:49:25.269 --> 00:49:27.230
I'm down for that, too. Don't don't be kidding.

00:49:27.449 --> 00:49:30.590
OK, is he Chris Pine's dad? I think he he's the

00:49:30.590 --> 00:49:34.329
mafioso boss. Sam Neal. Sam Neal. Sam Neal. Yeah,

00:49:34.710 --> 00:49:37.250
yeah, yeah. No problem. He's he's the magnet.

00:49:37.429 --> 00:49:39.309
He's the one. The New Zealand thing is always

00:49:39.309 --> 00:49:43.250
great because what's the movie he's in with the

00:49:43.250 --> 00:49:46.579
kid from Deadpool 2? Oh, that fun New Zealand

00:49:46.579 --> 00:49:48.780
movie. Oh, yeah. He gets to do kind of his own

00:49:48.780 --> 00:49:50.500
accent. Yeah, where he sounds like himself. You

00:49:50.500 --> 00:49:52.639
know that movie? I do. He and him are in the

00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:55.420
woods. It's super great. It was like the hunt

00:49:55.420 --> 00:49:57.099
for the Wilder people or something like that.

00:49:57.219 --> 00:49:58.599
Is that what it was? Exactly. That's what my

00:49:58.599 --> 00:50:02.139
brain's telling me. But I feel like that's him

00:50:02.139 --> 00:50:04.889
doing kind of his accent, right? OK. I can see

00:50:04.889 --> 00:50:07.570
it. I can see him being like this shipping baron,

00:50:07.769 --> 00:50:11.289
like this magnet, like this Robber Baron character.

00:50:11.750 --> 00:50:13.809
Not even the dad, just like associate. I can

00:50:13.809 --> 00:50:15.710
see associate. Like a part of it. Yeah, he's

00:50:15.710 --> 00:50:19.610
tied to the Chris Bynes character somehow. Gman

00:50:19.610 --> 00:50:23.610
Honsu. Oh, can I have, because we talked about

00:50:23.610 --> 00:50:26.329
him being cool racially and being progressive.

00:50:26.630 --> 00:50:29.840
Yeah. Can he be somebody who really helps McConaughey

00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:33.860
out? Of course, in a way. Yes. However, along,

00:50:33.860 --> 00:50:37.400
you know, as a tough as a yes. Help with a fight.

00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:42.920
I love that. He's a great man. And I very profound.

00:50:43.659 --> 00:50:46.400
I think maybe I like it if he's, you know, in

00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:48.719
a suit. He's trying to help him navigate the

00:50:48.719 --> 00:50:50.619
city a little bit, you know, but he's also tough

00:50:50.619 --> 00:50:53.820
from back in the day. OK, but I love Jim and

00:50:53.820 --> 00:50:57.860
Hansu. I think if I could see that Yeah, having

00:50:57.860 --> 00:51:00.699
that as like this guide figure. Yeah. And not

00:51:00.699 --> 00:51:02.460
the wise shaman that Sam Elliott is going to

00:51:02.460 --> 00:51:06.320
play. And having, you know, the element of Chris

00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:08.460
Pine, you know, being a terrible, appropriate

00:51:08.460 --> 00:51:11.679
of the time, racist, misogynist. Yeah, just clearly

00:51:11.679 --> 00:51:15.559
just horrible. But having that come up and is

00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:19.360
always fun and having maybe maybe as his city.

00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:22.460
Yeah, maybe is to his fun. I'm wondering if maybe

00:51:22.460 --> 00:51:25.780
this is how he gets found. Like he something

00:51:25.780 --> 00:51:28.440
like there's an altercation with Jim Hounsou,

00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:31.159
if I say it correctly. Yeah. Like those two men

00:51:31.159 --> 00:51:34.840
get an altercation and like shit goes sideways.

00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:36.980
But then, like, eventually, like a day or two

00:51:36.980 --> 00:51:38.860
later, McConaughey shows up and he's like, hey,

00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:41.440
I know this guy that you're looking for. Well,

00:51:41.679 --> 00:51:44.480
it is kind of fun. We've been alluding to this

00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:46.840
being a long term plan of economy is the whole

00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:51.699
time, which I like Jim and Hounsou being a linchpin

00:51:51.699 --> 00:51:56.860
to it. But what does he take? What of is it a

00:51:56.860 --> 00:52:00.559
family member? Is it like is it tit for tat eye

00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:03.440
for an eye? Does he kidnap somebody else? And

00:52:03.440 --> 00:52:06.679
does it like precipitate something in the city?

00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:08.780
You know, is our finale in the city or in the

00:52:08.780 --> 00:52:11.880
Wild West or like at the confluence of both?

00:52:12.079 --> 00:52:14.320
Yeah, like it's like they have like some estate

00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:17.920
out west or something that's being built. They're

00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:20.730
building their vineyard out there. The vineyard.

00:52:20.929 --> 00:52:22.429
Yeah. There's some like vineyard that they're

00:52:22.429 --> 00:52:25.110
being held at or something to that effect. Finale

00:52:25.110 --> 00:52:29.010
at the fucking vineyard. Yeah. Yeah. I can see

00:52:29.010 --> 00:52:31.710
that. That's fantastic. Some giant compound.

00:52:32.210 --> 00:52:34.769
We have so many good, like interesting, like

00:52:34.769 --> 00:52:39.849
wine getting shot. The whole last 30, 40 minutes

00:52:39.849 --> 00:52:43.429
is a shootout, right? That's unique, I think.

00:52:43.429 --> 00:52:46.550
Yeah. Shootout at the vineyard. Yeah. That sounds

00:52:46.550 --> 00:52:49.130
fun. What a pompous ass, Chris Pinus. And it's

00:52:49.130 --> 00:52:53.050
a great nod to bottle shock. Shout out to that

00:52:53.050 --> 00:52:58.170
movie. So he takes this, so he takes McConaughey's

00:52:58.170 --> 00:53:01.150
wife, if I'm still remembering correctly, I'm

00:53:01.150 --> 00:53:04.269
globbing onto that, I'm not sure yet. But he

00:53:04.269 --> 00:53:06.969
takes Chris Pine. Oh, takes the family. Takes

00:53:06.969 --> 00:53:10.800
the family. Uses them somehow and to present

00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:14.960
a false front, you know, okay to gain favor and

00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:17.539
eventually that leads to his success Okay, okay,

00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:19.579
and then like he was meant to give him back but

00:53:19.579 --> 00:53:23.480
he doesn't and he tosses the wife aside or something

00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:28.260
and he Marries or like indentured married. Yeah

00:53:28.260 --> 00:53:30.119
teenage kid, you know what I mean? Yeah, not

00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:32.440
too gross but gross enough. We definitely are

00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:35.840
gonna be implying some stuff Yeah. So who is

00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:39.760
the lead actress who's got a. Who gets to deal

00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:41.619
with this terrible. And see, there's the thing,

00:53:41.619 --> 00:53:43.599
we don't have a love interest and that's not

00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:47.820
uncommon because he's he's ultimately. It's a

00:53:47.820 --> 00:53:50.760
granddaughter. Yeah. Or it's his daughter. I

00:53:50.760 --> 00:53:53.760
keep forgetting it's not generations, so it's

00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:56.460
essentially his daughter. He's not, you know,

00:53:56.460 --> 00:53:59.239
and he does, you know, essentially rescue his

00:53:59.239 --> 00:54:02.599
wife. Oh, yeah, I keep forgetting these aren't.

00:54:02.619 --> 00:54:04.699
Like decades later, it's the same people. Yeah,

00:54:04.699 --> 00:54:07.440
it's the same people. So, yeah, it was Chris

00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:10.800
Pine shows up, takes McConaughey's wife and family.

00:54:10.800 --> 00:54:13.400
Forgive me. Yeah, I was like, I was like, yeah,

00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:15.159
I was like, OK, we switched on me. I was like,

00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:17.500
hold on, my brain started slipping gears. I was

00:54:17.500 --> 00:54:20.079
like, where is he taking me on this roller coaster?

00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:23.719
It's like, so Chris Pine shows up. Yeah, because

00:54:23.719 --> 00:54:25.539
because otherwise, McConaughey is just rescuing

00:54:25.539 --> 00:54:28.179
somebody. If it's not his wife and kid, like,

00:54:28.340 --> 00:54:31.940
I don't know what his motivation is. There's

00:54:31.940 --> 00:54:33.980
a lot of blonde in this movie already, so I'm

00:54:33.980 --> 00:54:36.480
maybe looking towards a Burnett individual. All

00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:39.739
right. Sandra Bullock. We already did Sandy B

00:54:39.739 --> 00:54:41.900
movie. I don't know. Not to say we can't. You

00:54:41.900 --> 00:54:44.199
know what? Forgive me. You're right. And that's

00:54:44.199 --> 00:54:46.219
great. She is something about me or about us

00:54:46.219 --> 00:54:49.320
in society like we love her. She's a star for

00:54:49.320 --> 00:54:55.840
a reason. Yeah. I like the idea of somebody who

00:54:55.840 --> 00:54:59.880
is the. the opposite of McConaughey's. Well,

00:54:59.960 --> 00:55:02.519
you know what? Actually, I like the idea of McConaughey's

00:55:02.519 --> 00:55:05.719
starting out being soft and being hardened. So

00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:08.440
maybe this is more of a hardened character, you

00:55:08.440 --> 00:55:10.519
know what I mean? Because if he's softer to start,

00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:15.000
she's something tougher like Charlize or Sigourney

00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:18.920
Weaver. I could see both of them. Those are maybe

00:55:18.920 --> 00:55:20.619
non -traditional. I'm trying to look somebody

00:55:20.619 --> 00:55:23.280
else. Give me a moment, but keep me rolling.

00:55:24.039 --> 00:55:27.059
Give me names. And again, I like the idea of

00:55:27.059 --> 00:55:29.380
a stronger character. Rachel McAdams, by the

00:55:29.380 --> 00:55:31.760
way. I would love to see her in this as this

00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:36.079
character. Just saw her in. I'm going to say

00:55:36.079 --> 00:55:38.440
the name wrong, but save us, help me help save

00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:42.519
us. The Sam Raimi film. Oh, yeah. And she destroys.

00:55:42.900 --> 00:55:45.219
OK, so I'm going to maybe I'm going to stop with

00:55:45.219 --> 00:55:47.579
that and say my pick would be Rachel McAdams.

00:55:47.579 --> 00:55:50.880
OK, because she is tough and she's funny and

00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:54.610
she's scary. And I think like the idea of her,

00:55:54.610 --> 00:55:57.889
you know, being into some kind of servitude and

00:55:57.889 --> 00:56:01.570
having had it tough or toughness is what keeps

00:56:01.570 --> 00:56:04.929
her going. You know what I mean? Mm hmm. I think

00:56:04.929 --> 00:56:06.889
that's a solid selection. I'm trying to look

00:56:06.889 --> 00:56:08.110
up the person. I'm like, who are you thinking

00:56:08.110 --> 00:56:10.150
of? That's why I was like, I don't know if you

00:56:10.150 --> 00:56:11.730
want to throw some shit out there like, you know,

00:56:11.789 --> 00:56:14.269
the old days. No, I'm trying to look up these

00:56:14.269 --> 00:56:17.510
movies that I'm like, why can't I remember? So

00:56:17.510 --> 00:56:20.650
I apologize for everybody. I was like, I wish

00:56:20.650 --> 00:56:23.369
I knew the movie that I'm talking about. I was

00:56:23.369 --> 00:56:24.590
like, I can't remember the movie title. So I

00:56:24.590 --> 00:56:26.769
was like, oh, it feels like I'm slipping gears

00:56:26.769 --> 00:56:29.230
here. The daughter wise, I'm going to shift to

00:56:29.230 --> 00:56:31.369
the daughter because I think that could be a

00:56:31.369 --> 00:56:35.230
really important character because they have

00:56:35.230 --> 00:56:39.230
to be like a teenage, you know, forced teenage.

00:56:39.389 --> 00:56:42.630
Remember, we get any time, any time in history,

00:56:42.630 --> 00:56:44.889
we could pick somebody like you do young Judy

00:56:44.889 --> 00:56:48.570
Garland if you want to. Yeah, exactly. And the

00:56:48.570 --> 00:56:53.070
idea of this person starting that way, which

00:56:53.070 --> 00:56:54.869
is totally common back then. And then, you know,

00:56:54.869 --> 00:56:57.510
it had to start being in vogue, but they're out

00:56:57.510 --> 00:57:00.090
of vogue rather. Forgive me. But there had to

00:57:00.090 --> 00:57:03.250
be people who are like, no, this is cool. And

00:57:03.250 --> 00:57:05.809
other people going, I still want to marry teenagers.

00:57:06.050 --> 00:57:08.010
You know, and at some point, you know, before

00:57:08.010 --> 00:57:11.110
the laws came came about, people were bummed

00:57:11.110 --> 00:57:13.170
out that they didn't get to marry teenagers any

00:57:13.170 --> 00:57:16.000
longer. Yeah. You know what I mean? I've seen

00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:18.980
a Drew Barrymore in that in that role because

00:57:18.980 --> 00:57:22.239
she's, you know, had young trauma. Yep. I think

00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:26.239
she would be really dope. And, you know, at appropriate

00:57:26.239 --> 00:57:28.440
age, you know what I mean? As the daughter, I

00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:31.380
can see that definitely. And the Rachel McAdams

00:57:31.380 --> 00:57:35.659
thing could probably work. I wish I could give

00:57:35.659 --> 00:57:37.619
you the name of the movie. I was thinking I was

00:57:37.619 --> 00:57:40.159
like, why can't I see it? I can see all the actors

00:57:40.159 --> 00:57:41.719
and actresses. And I was like, I can't think

00:57:41.719 --> 00:57:45.130
of this is driving. Why? It's not a thing. It's

00:57:45.130 --> 00:57:46.949
not a movie. It's not a movie. You're trying

00:57:46.949 --> 00:57:48.730
to do what we're doing right now. You know what's

00:57:48.730 --> 00:57:50.789
crazy is did I fever dream it? You're making

00:57:50.789 --> 00:57:52.949
I fever dreamed this movie. That's what happened.

00:57:53.010 --> 00:57:54.789
I got a lock in. I got a lock in. Ladies and

00:57:54.789 --> 00:57:57.730
gentlemen, I apologize for my brain. OK, so if

00:57:57.730 --> 00:58:00.110
it's not Rachel McAdams and you like the idea

00:58:00.110 --> 00:58:02.690
of somebody strong. Gina Davis is always going

00:58:02.690 --> 00:58:04.889
to be great. Yes, God damn it. Gina Davis is

00:58:04.889 --> 00:58:06.989
always a wonder national treasure. You're fucking

00:58:06.989 --> 00:58:08.559
right. And I don't even know if she's from our

00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:10.179
nation, but she's a national treasure. Rachel

00:58:10.179 --> 00:58:13.019
McAdams, forgive me, but Gina Davis. Now, where

00:58:13.019 --> 00:58:14.719
did that just come from? Up through Rhode Island?

00:58:14.900 --> 00:58:17.019
Because that movie fucking rules. Kiss, kiss,

00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:19.860
bang, bang. Is she in that? The long kiss goodnight?

00:58:20.780 --> 00:58:23.360
Fuck yeah. She's great. Fuck yeah. She's an action

00:58:23.360 --> 00:58:26.019
star. I don't know. I love it. How could we forget

00:58:26.019 --> 00:58:28.420
about her? So what's interesting is, so we've

00:58:28.420 --> 00:58:30.800
got Pine, he's got a henchman, and young Will

00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:37.030
Poulter who can be a crazy. Yeah. In these Westerns,

00:58:37.130 --> 00:58:42.349
there's always the crazy person. And Klaus Kinski

00:58:42.349 --> 00:58:45.889
plays one often. Well, he played one in every

00:58:45.889 --> 00:58:49.170
movie, because he was. It's easy to do when you

00:58:49.170 --> 00:58:52.170
are crazy. And I would love to have this. This

00:58:52.170 --> 00:58:55.030
person's really adjusting to society, having

00:58:55.030 --> 00:58:58.329
a real tough time. You know, shit like that.

00:58:58.329 --> 00:59:00.710
So wait, is he more off -hinged than Chris Pine

00:59:00.710 --> 00:59:02.369
is? Is that what you're suggesting? No, Pine's

00:59:02.369 --> 00:59:04.150
cool, baby. Oh, okay, that's right. Pine's cool,

00:59:04.309 --> 00:59:06.530
suave, smooth. He's evil. I mean, he just did

00:59:06.530 --> 00:59:08.690
a shitty, shitty, horrible thing. You know, he's

00:59:08.690 --> 00:59:10.849
married to little Drew Barrymore. Uh -huh. Not

00:59:10.849 --> 00:59:13.090
E .T. Drew, but like, you know, young enough,

00:59:13.269 --> 00:59:20.030
old enough. Teenager, yeah. And Gina Davis is...

00:59:20.030 --> 00:59:23.110
Disposed of. Yeah. Does Matthew McConaughey get

00:59:23.110 --> 00:59:24.889
to run into her along the way? Does he find a

00:59:24.889 --> 00:59:28.489
rescuer? Or she gets away? Like she somehow like

00:59:28.489 --> 00:59:30.750
escapes the servitude that she gets sold into?

00:59:30.989 --> 00:59:33.170
You know, it's been so long that you could have

00:59:33.170 --> 00:59:34.989
some, you know, attention about, will they still

00:59:34.989 --> 00:59:38.250
be in love? Oh, yeah. It's been a while. It's

00:59:38.250 --> 00:59:42.010
been years. Yeah. And he, his modus operandi,

00:59:42.389 --> 00:59:46.010
you could write him like, I really don't really...

00:59:46.039 --> 00:59:49.039
Don't care about them. I don't I just need to

00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:51.179
do this. Yeah, I need to finish this This is

00:59:51.179 --> 00:59:53.860
for me now not for me to have anything and so

00:59:53.860 --> 00:59:55.960
you don't have it doesn't McConaughey's character

00:59:55.960 --> 01:00:00.099
die at the end No, you sure because I think it's

01:00:00.099 --> 01:00:02.400
more tragic if he lives because if you write

01:00:02.400 --> 01:00:05.099
him like with more tragic They lives that like

01:00:05.099 --> 01:00:08.019
and then found his love and his child. There's

01:00:08.019 --> 01:00:10.539
no connection Oh, that's pretty tragic. That

01:00:10.539 --> 01:00:13.239
is a that is a downer and society has kind of

01:00:13.239 --> 01:00:15.659
moved on like I mean All right, so I'm imagining

01:00:15.659 --> 01:00:18.460
this kind of almost a taxi style where, like,

01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:20.639
he gets in a shootout and ends in a hotel. What

01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:23.139
if Gina Davis dies? Ooh. I'm just throwing some

01:00:23.139 --> 01:00:25.820
things out there. Yeah. You know, I mean. I can

01:00:25.820 --> 01:00:30.300
see it. Westerns can go dark. I mean, it's like

01:00:30.300 --> 01:00:33.679
you're given latitude. to see horrible racist

01:00:33.679 --> 01:00:36.260
stuff, stuff to kids. And they were like, oh,

01:00:36.360 --> 01:00:39.260
that was a time. Yeah. But but also human kind

01:00:39.260 --> 01:00:42.260
of human. And we're like, oh, looking back with,

01:00:42.260 --> 01:00:44.460
you know, we like to look back with rosy colored

01:00:44.460 --> 01:00:46.280
glasses and be like, oh, it's fun and this, that

01:00:46.280 --> 01:00:49.019
and it's like, yeah, people died of dysentery.

01:00:49.340 --> 01:00:51.619
You know, doctors weren't right syphilis. You

01:00:51.619 --> 01:00:53.659
know, study hard. Yeah. Tell you that. Yeah.

01:00:53.679 --> 01:00:56.159
Yeah. Like gangrene books. Chances are you were

01:00:56.159 --> 01:00:59.920
going to die. I was like, oh, I had so many kids

01:00:59.920 --> 01:01:01.840
like, yeah, because if they made it past five,

01:01:01.880 --> 01:01:05.320
you were lucky. Yeah. So, you know, first act

01:01:05.320 --> 01:01:09.039
is introducing the story, obviously, in second

01:01:09.039 --> 01:01:13.610
and third act are a bit of. You know, the journey

01:01:13.610 --> 01:01:16.110
you have flashback, you know, setting up like

01:01:16.110 --> 01:01:18.849
how Chris Pine created this empire. Yeah, things

01:01:18.849 --> 01:01:21.130
along the way you find out like he didn't marry

01:01:21.130 --> 01:01:25.289
the wife. He abused and married the kid. Yeah,

01:01:25.550 --> 01:01:28.230
you know, really awful, horrible, horrible stuff,

01:01:29.010 --> 01:01:32.630
which is it's a Western, you know, and and all

01:01:32.630 --> 01:01:35.550
just like you were you weren't home and you don't

01:01:35.550 --> 01:01:38.010
matter. Yeah, you're just happy. I was going

01:01:38.010 --> 01:01:39.510
to give him back. But you know what I didn't.

01:01:39.579 --> 01:01:42.219
Evil happens all the time. These people just

01:01:42.219 --> 01:01:43.800
wouldn't do business with somebody unless they

01:01:43.800 --> 01:01:47.719
had a goddamn family. And I liked your family.

01:01:48.260 --> 01:01:49.579
What would that just say? Like he happens to

01:01:49.579 --> 01:01:52.059
see them in town. That's what I mean. Like you

01:01:52.059 --> 01:01:54.260
were at home. Yeah. I happen to see you. Should

01:01:54.260 --> 01:01:55.900
have been home. I happen to see you and your

01:01:55.900 --> 01:01:57.599
wife and your small child. Samuel comes out of

01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:01.090
nowhere and is like... Home now, bitch. Oh, Sam

01:02:01.090 --> 01:02:03.630
Neal again. Are you really dinosaurs in this

01:02:03.630 --> 01:02:07.849
man? Sam Elliott, the man who hunted Bigfoot

01:02:07.849 --> 01:02:10.429
and killed Hitler. Yes. All of it. All those

01:02:10.429 --> 01:02:13.210
things. Big Lebowski. He's in it all. Mustache,

01:02:13.210 --> 01:02:16.030
mustache and all pageantry. What the fuck is

01:02:16.030 --> 01:02:19.349
wrong with me? It makes it up your Sam's this

01:02:19.349 --> 01:02:24.409
mate. Sam, I'm not. I'm so sorry, Mr. Elliott

01:02:24.409 --> 01:02:28.170
and Neil. Both. genius fucking actors, in my

01:02:28.170 --> 01:02:32.710
opinion. Top notch for sure. Class. Do you want

01:02:32.710 --> 01:02:36.789
somebody like Ennio Morconi doing the soundtrack?

01:02:37.030 --> 01:02:40.489
Do you want the traditional spaghetti western?

01:02:40.530 --> 01:02:42.909
I think you got to go. Do you want a modern thing?

01:02:43.369 --> 01:02:46.670
What do you think? Roaring 20s, Bugsy. No, I

01:02:46.670 --> 01:02:49.199
think that that I think. You could do that when

01:02:49.199 --> 01:02:51.480
you get to places like if you, when we get to

01:02:51.480 --> 01:02:53.000
like the shootout, I mean we could definitely

01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:54.880
have a jazzy scene. I would like it to feel westerny,

01:02:55.059 --> 01:02:59.019
like Jerry Goldsmith, the James Horner more.

01:02:59.019 --> 01:03:02.059
Feels like this has this acoustic feel to it,

01:03:02.079 --> 01:03:04.800
right? Oh, acoustic. Say more about that. Oh,

01:03:04.800 --> 01:03:07.340
I don't know. I just feel like woodwinds, acoustic

01:03:07.340 --> 01:03:09.280
guitars, things like that, just acoustic. It

01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:12.219
doesn't feel, not to say that it's drab or dreary,

01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:14.739
it just doesn't have the percussion we would

01:03:14.739 --> 01:03:16.500
expect it to have. I thought you meant maybe

01:03:16.500 --> 01:03:22.659
like Like acapella singers? Well, you know, like

01:03:22.659 --> 01:03:26.500
acoustic guitar, maybe songs. Yeah, yeah. That's

01:03:26.500 --> 01:03:27.460
kind of what I'm thinking. And not a traditional

01:03:27.460 --> 01:03:31.519
score. Yeah. Bruce Broughton did the soundtrack

01:03:31.519 --> 01:03:35.000
to Silverado. Silverado is a pretty good soundtrack.

01:03:35.099 --> 01:03:37.780
Like has upbeat and it has, so it has the traditional

01:03:37.780 --> 01:03:40.780
cadence. And maybe to upbeat and sing songy,

01:03:40.800 --> 01:03:44.590
but he's somebody who I like that as a... He

01:03:44.590 --> 01:03:48.030
could do our theme. Is it going to be a traditional

01:03:48.030 --> 01:03:50.090
Western that we need a theme song? You know,

01:03:50.130 --> 01:03:51.530
we're going to have like a whole theme for the

01:03:51.530 --> 01:03:55.590
last credits. Oh, that's a great question. Are

01:03:55.590 --> 01:03:57.170
we going for that? Because it feels like we're

01:03:57.170 --> 01:04:00.630
pretty dark and drab. Like, we like to steer

01:04:00.630 --> 01:04:02.349
into the darkness, ladies and gentlemen. I don't

01:04:02.349 --> 01:04:04.849
know if you've caught that yet, but we like that.

01:04:04.969 --> 01:04:07.750
Also of note, and I'm looking these up, Lenny

01:04:07.750 --> 01:04:12.159
Nyhouse did the score for The Unforgiven. Of

01:04:12.159 --> 01:04:13.920
course we were we already made it that would

01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:17.059
be like this kind of does feel like the I would

01:04:17.059 --> 01:04:20.780
like it to be quieter Yeah, I think that I feel

01:04:20.780 --> 01:04:22.300
like that's something we learned from the spaghetti

01:04:22.300 --> 01:04:24.920
watches like sometimes the sound just of the

01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:28.420
world itself is enough Well, yeah, and that's

01:04:28.420 --> 01:04:30.780
the thing, you know, it's not about what you

01:04:30.780 --> 01:04:33.079
know, you know that can kill you it's what you

01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:38.780
don't know but Unforgiven is not necessarily

01:04:38.780 --> 01:04:40.940
starting out as a revenge movie, but it becomes

01:04:40.940 --> 01:04:44.500
one. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's what

01:04:44.500 --> 01:04:48.119
makes it great. I'm really into that. Well, it

01:04:48.119 --> 01:04:53.500
looks like Lenny Niehaus, let's see, has done

01:04:53.500 --> 01:04:58.079
a lot with, oh wow, I think is Clint Eastwood's

01:04:58.079 --> 01:05:00.219
person. Clint Eastwood's got, yeah, he's got,

01:05:00.260 --> 01:05:03.559
is he got luck? Top four bridges of Madison County,

01:05:03.780 --> 01:05:05.639
space cowboys, Heartbreak Ridge, Unforgiven.

01:05:05.639 --> 01:05:07.400
This is the guy. If we can't have Clint Eastwood,

01:05:07.500 --> 01:05:12.320
we better have him. Mystic River. Oh, the two

01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:15.380
Jakes. Oh, speaking of, that's fucking the movie

01:05:15.380 --> 01:05:17.159
rules. Do you know the two Jakes, that movie?

01:05:17.380 --> 01:05:22.260
I do not. It's Jack Nicholson and it's Harvey

01:05:22.260 --> 01:05:25.380
Keitel and it's a sequel, an actual sequel to

01:05:25.380 --> 01:05:28.699
the Jack Nicholson movie Chinatown. Oh. Really?

01:05:28.699 --> 01:05:30.760
Do you know Chinatown? Yeah, I have seen Chinatown.

01:05:31.219 --> 01:05:35.380
And it was on, it's a 1990 movie and I was on

01:05:35.380 --> 01:05:37.340
cable a lot and I was obsessed with it. I was

01:05:37.340 --> 01:05:38.780
obsessed with Jack Nicholson for a long time.

01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:41.000
He's a great, great actor. There's a reason he

01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:43.059
gets the awards he gets. All right, I finally

01:05:43.059 --> 01:05:45.239
remember that movie that I was thinking. Oh my

01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:46.860
God. I can't believe I thought of it. I finally

01:05:46.860 --> 01:05:50.460
did it. Are you ready? Yes. The actress I was

01:05:50.460 --> 01:05:55.400
thinking of is Madeleine Stowe. And you probably

01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:57.219
don't know her. Oh my gosh. Or maybe you do.

01:05:58.299 --> 01:06:01.039
Stop, hold on. Hold on. I just said the two jakes.

01:06:01.239 --> 01:06:03.420
Yeah, she's in the tissue in the two jakes I

01:06:03.420 --> 01:06:05.980
just scrolled by and David notice it gnarly scene

01:06:05.980 --> 01:06:09.340
to she's not all she is in the two jakes see

01:06:09.340 --> 01:06:12.760
man. All right The reason is well, she wasn't

01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:14.480
bad girls. I was trying to think of bad girls

01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:16.539
cuz Drew Barrymore is in that movie It is a Western

01:06:16.539 --> 01:06:19.639
90s Western. It's like of course, but she's also

01:06:19.639 --> 01:06:22.159
in twelve monkeys And this is where like I think

01:06:22.159 --> 01:06:24.079
the spew for like Gina Davis because I think

01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:27.829
any wasn't andy mcdowell andy mcdowell was like

01:06:27.829 --> 01:06:29.409
i was trying to get to bad girls because i was

01:06:29.409 --> 01:06:31.469
like i remember this movie i was like i can't

01:06:31.469 --> 01:06:33.050
then you're like it's a fever dream and i was

01:06:33.050 --> 01:06:35.289
like no it exists drew barry moore was in a western

01:06:35.289 --> 01:06:37.329
people and still is and definitely a western

01:06:37.329 --> 01:06:41.230
called uh last of the mohegan's oh yes she is

01:06:41.230 --> 01:06:44.989
receiving the i will find you she she's the recipient

01:06:44.989 --> 01:06:47.829
yes she's great she's going to be found do you

01:06:47.829 --> 01:06:50.030
think that she could replace jena davis in this

01:06:50.030 --> 01:06:52.309
role oh yeah either way i like jena davis a little

01:06:52.309 --> 01:06:54.230
bit more okay she's a little harder yeah tougher

01:06:54.230 --> 01:06:56.920
i can see it Madeline Stowe, we just watched

01:06:56.920 --> 01:06:59.500
12 monkeys recently with the with the great movie

01:06:59.500 --> 01:07:04.280
of him the teenagers and Brad Pitt kills it And

01:07:04.280 --> 01:07:06.320
that's he deserved an award for sure I'm surprised

01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:09.039
he didn't get an award for like supporting actor

01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:11.719
and we hyped it We like this performance and

01:07:11.719 --> 01:07:14.599
they're already fans. Oh You know what? I mean,

01:07:14.719 --> 01:07:18.039
but I I was in my son asked me a really interesting

01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:21.480
question He's like, well, how is it that? different

01:07:22.380 --> 01:07:24.940
And I said, it's just different than anything

01:07:24.940 --> 01:07:28.300
I've ever seen him do any other character. Yeah,

01:07:28.420 --> 01:07:30.780
truly. And I couldn't articulate it better than

01:07:30.780 --> 01:07:33.139
that. And they're like, oh, shit. Yeah, yeah.

01:07:33.260 --> 01:07:36.659
It's something that's got to be seen. Yeah. We've

01:07:36.659 --> 01:07:38.880
covered, I think, all of the grounds that we

01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:41.960
need to cover. Except one. Oh, shit. I don't

01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:43.440
know how much time we have left. We have seven

01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:45.900
minutes left. Man, we are giving ourselves the

01:07:45.900 --> 01:07:49.820
skin of our teeth. Your chill is so remarkable.

01:07:51.809 --> 01:07:54.750
I look at you. I was just like, I don't have

01:07:54.750 --> 01:07:57.030
a friend. You're a great person. You're a great

01:07:57.030 --> 01:08:02.230
partner. I try. I try. Well, I we've been dancing

01:08:02.230 --> 01:08:04.150
around a couple and I think this is what's kind

01:08:04.150 --> 01:08:08.110
of interesting and because you weren't there.

01:08:08.130 --> 01:08:11.090
Yeah. You know, like because just because like

01:08:11.090 --> 01:08:12.869
because you weren't there because you weren't

01:08:12.869 --> 01:08:14.449
there. That's what you because that's the thing.

01:08:14.570 --> 01:08:17.090
Like why did you do this? Because you weren't

01:08:17.090 --> 01:08:19.680
because you weren't there. That's it. I mean,

01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:22.140
we've been saying that a bunch, and that's the

01:08:22.140 --> 01:08:25.880
heartbreak of this movie. Yeah. Is it's so simple.

01:08:25.979 --> 01:08:27.680
So Matthew McConaughey is going to find Gina

01:08:27.680 --> 01:08:30.760
Davis and it's like they're going to go and it's

01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:33.359
like we haven't resolved that we can potentially.

01:08:33.979 --> 01:08:35.979
Maybe she dies in his arms. Maybe he dies in

01:08:35.979 --> 01:08:38.159
her arms. We don't know the gunfight at the at

01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:40.699
the vineyard. Yeah. Again, I'm still because

01:08:40.699 --> 01:08:44.300
you were great. Yeah, because you that's so it's

01:08:44.300 --> 01:08:47.840
so cold. I love it because you weren't there.

01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:50.029
Unfinished business. And it's, you know, it makes

01:08:50.029 --> 01:08:54.770
sense. We're it's it's that banality. We've got

01:08:54.770 --> 01:08:58.789
some time. We we think about the elements, right?

01:08:59.029 --> 01:09:02.210
What family like there could be an element here

01:09:02.210 --> 01:09:04.409
because it means nothing to Chris Pine. Yeah,

01:09:04.569 --> 01:09:06.949
he needed it for business and it's everything

01:09:06.949 --> 01:09:09.729
to him. But at this point, you know, and he's

01:09:09.729 --> 01:09:11.789
waited intentionally for whatever reason, you

01:09:11.789 --> 01:09:14.460
know, whatever. Yeah. It's happening. Catherine,

01:09:14.579 --> 01:09:19.460
I realize that you may have all moved on and

01:09:19.460 --> 01:09:24.479
I don't care, but I have to do this. Yeah. You

01:09:24.479 --> 01:09:26.939
know, so is there something about family being?

01:09:27.779 --> 01:09:30.159
Because usually, I mean, you can have a family

01:09:30.159 --> 01:09:34.020
business. You could have finished business. You

01:09:34.020 --> 01:09:35.680
know, I want to stay away from the family. Yeah,

01:09:35.760 --> 01:09:38.300
it sounds too. That's interesting, though, because.

01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:42.420
No, it sounds leading. Yeah, it definitely changed

01:09:42.420 --> 01:09:44.260
the tone of the movie we're going for. Yeah.

01:09:44.420 --> 01:09:47.380
If you put if you were put that tagline, I don't

01:09:47.380 --> 01:09:49.600
know. That's why it has a side note. I'd love

01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:52.140
to see the poster painted like the old days.

01:09:52.140 --> 01:09:55.899
Yeah. And it show the contrast of like the city

01:09:55.899 --> 01:09:59.800
part and the western part. And, you know, have

01:09:59.800 --> 01:10:05.100
that be a thing. I love the idea of McConaughey's.

01:10:05.660 --> 01:10:08.479
emergence as this bald, kind of, maybe he's got

01:10:08.479 --> 01:10:11.500
like tattoos on his head or something. Something.

01:10:11.840 --> 01:10:14.220
And he's fighting these dragons, right? And he's

01:10:14.220 --> 01:10:17.239
got a battle axe. That sounds like a very different

01:10:17.239 --> 01:10:19.840
movie. Is he riding in an Abrams tank? Does he

01:10:19.840 --> 01:10:21.760
have a necklace of dragon teeth? I love Rain

01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:24.579
of Fire. You know, I've said it every, every

01:10:24.579 --> 01:10:28.000
day. I think I say it. It's on your Mount Rushmore's.

01:10:28.039 --> 01:10:31.579
Well, the idea that the music is subtle. the

01:10:31.579 --> 01:10:34.220
plot. It's relatable. Something was taken. I

01:10:34.220 --> 01:10:37.079
mean, he finds out along the way he was not picked,

01:10:37.680 --> 01:10:41.359
wasn't a vendetta and he's nobody. Yeah. That's

01:10:41.359 --> 01:10:44.000
why you just were off the farm that day. And

01:10:44.000 --> 01:10:47.699
that's our life here. And it sucks. Sometimes

01:10:47.699 --> 01:10:49.840
terrible things happen to good people. Yeah.

01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:53.260
And this movie is about them getting the getting

01:10:53.260 --> 01:10:56.460
the justice. Yeah, right. We get to end it. And

01:10:56.460 --> 01:10:59.220
he's been transformed and you're sad for that.

01:10:59.539 --> 01:11:01.739
And, you know, there can be parts along the way

01:11:01.739 --> 01:11:05.819
that, you know, shows the old with hair. We look

01:11:05.819 --> 01:11:10.140
like on his on his quest. Remember you across

01:11:10.140 --> 01:11:12.659
the West. And he could have some, you know, I

01:11:12.659 --> 01:11:18.239
love. And for a few dollars more, the theme of

01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:21.739
the bad guy has his pocket watch. And have you

01:11:21.739 --> 01:11:25.340
seen the. A few dollars, a few dollars more.

01:11:26.060 --> 01:11:27.399
It's good, bad, and the ugly. It's a trilogy.

01:11:27.699 --> 01:11:29.859
Yes, but not like in the sense that I could keep

01:11:29.859 --> 01:11:31.579
the track of the music. The bad guy has this

01:11:31.579 --> 01:11:35.239
watch and he's insane and he's brilliantly portrayed.

01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:39.380
And he lets this watch chime, you know, go down.

01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:41.039
And that usually the end means he's going to

01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:44.579
shoot you. Yeah, now that you do it, now I can

01:11:44.579 --> 01:11:48.420
remember it. I'd love to have the sting of that.

01:11:48.569 --> 01:11:51.350
You know, that happens between the kid area.

01:11:51.489 --> 01:11:53.350
Just to remind you that there was a kid involved,

01:11:53.350 --> 01:11:55.989
you know, to keep the like, you got to keep that

01:11:55.989 --> 01:11:59.350
tension right there more. Yeah. Well, I can see

01:11:59.350 --> 01:12:02.649
the closet. You can have a not to eat a little

01:12:02.649 --> 01:12:05.210
gray stuff. Yes. What is that? This movie is

01:12:05.210 --> 01:12:07.149
going to be dark and it's going to be fun. Is

01:12:07.149 --> 01:12:08.789
it going to resolve anything? I don't know, but

01:12:08.789 --> 01:12:10.430
there's going to be shootout at a vineyard and

01:12:10.430 --> 01:12:13.229
I'm down for that. But because you weren't there,

01:12:13.250 --> 01:12:16.189
is that OK? Yeah, I think I think it actually

01:12:16.189 --> 01:12:19.409
ties in pretty well. It gives away nothing without

01:12:19.409 --> 01:12:21.909
giving. It gives away a little bit, but it's

01:12:21.909 --> 01:12:24.350
like not until you see the movie. Yeah. Or you

01:12:24.350 --> 01:12:25.630
listen to this podcast. If you listen to this

01:12:25.630 --> 01:12:28.250
podcast. Sorry. Spoiler. We ruined the movie

01:12:28.250 --> 01:12:31.750
for you. Golly, didn't we? You should have watched

01:12:31.750 --> 01:12:33.970
the movie. But the thing is, you made it with

01:12:33.970 --> 01:12:37.170
us. I'm going to immediately when we're done,

01:12:37.289 --> 01:12:40.250
contact the Sam Elliott estate and apologize

01:12:40.250 --> 01:12:44.170
for my gaff. And you're going to apologize to

01:12:44.170 --> 01:12:47.250
Sam Neil. A sir Sam Neill. I don't know if he's

01:12:47.250 --> 01:12:49.130
a sir, but he's a sir in my brain. I've promoted

01:12:49.130 --> 01:12:51.609
him a lot today in his film, Hunt for the Wilder

01:12:51.609 --> 01:12:53.170
people. They're great. They're great movies.

01:12:53.850 --> 01:12:56.029
They both are great stars. Here's the thing.

01:12:56.029 --> 01:12:59.649
Good Sams. I think we did it. There's a minute

01:12:59.649 --> 01:13:01.869
and 48 seconds left. I think we covered all of

01:13:01.869 --> 01:13:05.109
our bases. Well done. Would you, just right in

01:13:05.109 --> 01:13:07.550
the moment, how are you feeling about... this

01:13:07.550 --> 01:13:09.970
kind of movie. Would you be a good movie? Is

01:13:09.970 --> 01:13:12.069
it like need to be in the mood for it? It's probably

01:13:12.069 --> 01:13:14.869
about two hours. Yeah. Twelve to twenty. Definitely.

01:13:14.869 --> 01:13:17.130
Definitely be a little bit longer movie. Somebody

01:13:17.130 --> 01:13:19.130
might call it a period piece to probably going

01:13:19.130 --> 01:13:21.350
to be a period piece, but you're you're OK. You're

01:13:21.350 --> 01:13:23.949
going to watch this. If we have enough action.

01:13:24.250 --> 01:13:27.130
Think it'd be worth it Django definitely blows

01:13:27.130 --> 01:13:30.250
the standards away of like if you have enough

01:13:30.250 --> 01:13:33.069
fun bits people are willing to sit for that movie

01:13:33.069 --> 01:13:35.890
and on the box It says like channeling his reign

01:13:35.890 --> 01:13:39.789
of fire rage. Yes, and boys and gals would be

01:13:39.789 --> 01:13:41.329
and we yeah We definitely are gonna put some

01:13:41.329 --> 01:13:44.489
Easter eggs for sure for sure embarrassed to

01:13:44.489 --> 01:13:47.069
say maybe I'll turn on the gunslinger I'm gonna

01:13:47.069 --> 01:13:49.890
have to look up how many Westerns McConaughey's

01:13:49.890 --> 01:13:52.529
Bennett. His nickname is the Dragon Slayer in

01:13:52.529 --> 01:13:57.560
this movie We have inside jokes. We've done it.

01:13:57.779 --> 01:13:59.960
We've done here as people who can make movies.

01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:03.380
We'd love to hear from you. We are appreciative

01:14:03.380 --> 01:14:07.479
that you that you listen. And if you do make

01:14:07.479 --> 01:14:09.439
movies, reach out to us and tell us about it.

01:14:09.439 --> 01:14:11.199
We'd like to hear that. Shoot us an email. Tell

01:14:11.199 --> 01:14:13.199
us you want to hire us to make movies. We would

01:14:13.199 --> 01:14:15.119
gladly make a movie. Oh, yeah, we could. We'll

01:14:15.119 --> 01:14:17.880
be a gleeful part of one if you'd like it. I

01:14:17.880 --> 01:14:19.319
would sit in a writer's room and help you come

01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:20.680
up with a movie. Would you help me come up with

01:14:20.680 --> 01:14:23.029
a movie? Yes and. It sounds like we're doing

01:14:23.029 --> 01:14:25.789
it already. It does. That's kind of what we do.

01:14:26.449 --> 01:14:30.590
Hey Logan, I think we should have somebody advocate

01:14:30.590 --> 01:14:34.489
on our behalf. Somebody please. Yeah. Yo, get

01:14:34.489 --> 01:14:36.409
at us. Hollywood, somebody.