Welcome to A Little Unscripted, the show where
we pull a random title, spin a random genre,
and then try to create a film that honestly shouldn't
work, and is impossible, and is way too expensive,
and no one's asking for, but that's the fun,
one idea, one hour, and zero guarantees. Let's
make this thing. Good day. I'm Ryan. I'm Logan
and no matter what we are going to make a movie
today again We're very excited about this because
we only partially made one last time. Yeah, we
realized as I was leaving Recording with you.
I was like we were kind of skipped a little bit
embroiled in scandal immediately immediately
right to the chase what I You've been thinking
about this. Have you? No, I actually left it.
You didn't text me at all or anything. No, I
was thinking about texting you about like halfway
through the drive when I got home. And then I
spaced on that. And I was like, you know, instead
of worrying and trying to think about how it's
going to go, I'm going to keep it just there.
And when we get here to do this, I'm going to
be ready. We're addressing it. Look at us. Look
at our transparency. We could assume. Because
we set up a particular scenario. We did. We did.
There was an avalanche and they were rescued.
Yes. And we talked about who made it, how they
were rescued is one thing. Now, if we want to
stage it. And we mentioned this earlier in the
episode as a remake of the movie Avalanche. We
could. We could. Starring Mia Farrow and just
kind of replace those parts. But long story short
is that they were embroiled. They tussled with
an avalanche. Yes. And they found their way to
safety. Only a few of them. Well, I mean, that's
it's a disaster film. It's got it. You can't
have everybody's mechanics. Yeah, we've all seen
a disaster movie at this rate. Did we specify
which little vent that they decided to crawl
into and how did they cleverly duct tape themselves
to the inside of a building? No, we did not do
that. We didn't do that. We should have. But
I feel like our audience is smart enough to fill
in those gaps. I hope that they're going to be
together. Yeah. Because our intention is to have
some fun. Yeah, I apologize. We missed some points.
Yes. But you know what, Doc, us put it on the
scoreboard. We missed email us and make make
memes about it. Make it funny. Because I want
to see if you got any humor, if you got any fan
art for us, you know, anybody who actually says
humor, humor, humor, where they cut the H on
anybody? No. Is that an East Coast thing? It
may be because it may be. Why would they cut
the H? Are you psyched about our cast for the
last movie? I think our cast was all star ensemble.
If I remember correctly, we had Denzel as our
father figure, and he gets the heroic sacrifice.
You killed him. I killed Denzel. I'm sorry, Denzel.
Angela Bassett very heroically mourns him. Yes,
saves the family. I'm really excited about Garrett
Headland and his ability to do that weird, you
know, vision questy. Yeah, he's just super impressive.
I think he should be in more. I think you're
right. I just hope he's happy. I think I think
we'll talk off mic about all the all the movies
that like we we've missed his because I throw
him at you a lot like you've seen this have you
seen this but he's and it's tied to Tron legacy.
Okay, I make that I love that film. I love the
Tron series. I don't think any of them were box
office success, but I could give a shit I guess
because I'm in a Minority of humans who really
it's okay to run legacy may be one of my favorite
movies of all time I'll say that I think it's
okay to have guilty pleasures without the guilt
So you can just have pleasure people you can
you can just you can I'm with this into the soul
This might be a nice door. How about that disaster?
Well, you were a little bit curious about what
we'd get today Yeah, and I did too and honestly
This is a little self aware, but this is what's
fun about doing the show is that it's kind of
a good perpetual motion machine for us because
that feel is like I. And again, we've been out
of our wheelhouse quite a bit. Yeah, I don't
think we've been in the wheelhouse yet, except
for our test. One was pretty fun and nobody's
ever going to hear it, but it was fun. So we
have a lot of gravitas in our in our disaster
film. And I think that should come back. Yeah,
I think I'll be honest. I was most stoked for
Jim Varney. being our CEO, Corpo guy, because
he would RIP. True. True. Gone too soon. Gone
too soon. All right. Well, we have all right.
We have our numbers. And at this point, we're
ready. It is anything we have 52 and 11. So again,
as a reminder, what we need to do is in 60 minutes,
we have to create a film from beginning to end
in our interpretation of it. Yeah. Reacts, preferably.
Whatever the end is, you know, it's a thing.
Maybe we'll do a sequel someday. We'll do a cut
the block. Lesser pitches have been made. Yeah.
Nobody else I know. I don't know anybody, but
everybody else I know doesn't give an hour long
pitch of who they want in their films. Usually
it's an elevator pitch. And we're like, what
if we stretched it to an hour? So in our very
vague concept, very fully fleshed out concept
of a film needs to have a character. Somebody
somebody's got to be in this movie. I don't know
if I could do a movie or something with a room.
We just just a wall. We haven't been pushed yet,
but if we don't push us, don't push us. We are
close to the edge. Don't don't look at that.
Please don't. I was just is all in. We need to
come up with a director of this and a tagline.
Yes, which is side note. front note, been one
of the more fun things to do. Yeah, it is. Whoever
comes up with tag lines for movie posters, kudos.
However you do it. I mean, love doing it. Yeah.
If you are making these tag lines could be a
cottage industry, you know, like somebody who
lives, you know, in somebody's got to get in
town. Somebody's got to do this. Our company
does tag lines. Yeah. A whole company. And our
neighbor does trailers. That would be wild. And
again, not to belittle those things, because
I know like putting trailers together and It's
art. Everything is tough. You know what I mean?
Nothing's easy. Yeah. So if you're in the industry
and you're the one that comes up with taglines.
I'd love to hear about it. And you've got a scoop
for us. Would love to hear about it. Better yet,
cut a trailer for our show. Ooh, cut a trailer
with a tagline. Let's hear it. And some extras.
What are some extras that we come up with? Ooh,
I think we've been trying to get a composer in
there. Maybe a location. That's easy to come
up with composer because, I mean, for me, I don't
know about you, but I... music really is it makes
or breaks. It definitely for me anymore. It's
everything else is fixable and all in air quotes.
But yeah, music. It's kind of interesting. That's
a great point is something that says you can't
fix it with nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Which is the
extreme fix. Yeah. Like some movies like Once
Upon a Time in the West, where they open on like
the extreme silence of the scene. Yeah, that's
that's a real tone. But what are your thoughts
on? Birdman or an unexpected virtue of ignorance,
a title, and that soundtrack of just being drums.
I don't think it's a bad idea. It definitely
sets a pace. To be flirt with that idea in previous
episodes. I think you've bought a Birdman before.
Like a simple concept for the soundtrack. Well,
I don't want to blow anybody's mind, but even
the Talladega Nights, the ballad of Ricky Bobby
is like one song over and over and over. What?
Yeah. Next time you watch the ballad of Ricky
Bobby. like really listen to it. And it's like
just like a guitar twang. That's tremendous.
And it's sorry. I may have watched it too much.
It's a great movie. It's like I've grown up with
it. Makes me laugh. Yeah. All the way. I said
this recently at home. Will Ferrell has like
the key to my funny bone. He could stand there
and you would laugh at him. I believe. Yes. That's
like, you know, that sounds belittling to Will
Ferrell. I'm sorry. I don't know. I think he
owes his millions of dollars to that characteristic
very much, because he's very relatable. Location
and otherwise. We went deep on casts. We've been
pretty deep on some ensembles. That's been fun.
All right. So our 52. Is that one for me? No,
that's me. That's you. 52. And our title is,
I should be better, Just North of Trouble. Oh,
that's not bad. Just north of trouble. All right.
And you said eleven, if I remember correctly.
That would be a sci fi movie. Are we finally
talking about wheelhouses? Did we finally hit
it? It only took us a couple of episodes, but
we did it. Wow. We got there. We can't say anything
yet. We got to start this timer. So we're going
to write some notes and get prepared. That's
I'm vaguely excited. No, distinctly excited to
be honest about that title. Just north of what
was a trouble trouble just just north of trouble
It's just vague and like ambiguous enough that
we can make it anything we can go full sci -fi
space opera if we wanted to Meaning with singing
I mean Is that what it requires? Do you know
who I think could do anything is Hemsworth? Make
him sing all of it all of it every line and he's
the next you drive Hugh Jackman in his face Keep
throwing it right in his face because you know
he's competitive like Hugh Jackman would have
He would have buckled down harder. For sure.
For sure. He'd be doing push -ups while doing
this vocal warm -up. Yeah, just to show off.
All right. All right. Before we cast this, before
we do this, what just happened? I think that
was a good side detour. Yeah. I think we're limber
enough that we can say that. And I'm ready to
start this timer. This is not exactly where we'll
end up. We can't end up that way. Who knows?
You don't know that. Timer has started just north
of trouble. Just north of trouble. All right.
What's your favorite brand of sci -fi right now?
Right now? Yeah, I'll be honest. I mean, just
just got done on the rewatch of The Expanse.
Oh, goodness. Yeah. Quite. So what genre would
you call that? I think broadly that is space
opera. I think it's a realistic take on space
opera. But it's noir. Yeah, it has a noir flavoring
to it. But I don't think noir is necessarily
the major. And that's a rarity that murder mystery
space. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's tough to. I think
the overall grand scheme of things is space opera,
but that doesn't start on that scale. Do you
have a style of sci -fi that you think is underutilized
or is under misunderstood? Because I mean, sci
-fi is a large swath of things like H .G. Wells
falls under sci -fi. I think of a movie like
Silent Running with Bruce Dern. It's a very small
and quiet movie, but the Earth has crumbled,
and they've saved the last of the forests on
these big ships, and these people are just maintaining
them. And then they're like, well, we can't afford
to do this anymore. You got to burn it all. And
Bruce Dern's like, nah, I'm hijacking this. So
it's an ecology message, similar in a way to.
Planet of the Apes. OK, as just you keep fucking
up, this is what's going to happen. I love that
particular style. I love 12 Monkeys when he pops
to the surface and you see what the world is
like after, you know, we're gone. What a twist,
by the way, like we did this. Like, what a red
herring. Sorry, I'm a full of monkeys. Yeah.
Heck yeah. The red herring throughout the whole
film is so stellar. Perfectly done. It's the
right balance of weird. And shame on me, honestly,
for not recognizing and celebrating the shit
out of Brad Pitt at that moment. Of all the roles
that he had in the 90s, like that role should
be the one he's remembered for, honestly. And
it took me a long time to come around on him
because I'm just insecure. Same thing with Leo.
OK. But I was earlier with Brad Pitt. I really
did start to like him earlier than... you know,
than I would have thought. But right then I should
have recognized. Greatness. Yeah, that was greatness
on that one. But to get back to it, you're thinking
more of like a slow burn sci fi like I'm wondering
if we message you and put them together like
a murder mystery. OK. Ecology story. All right.
How sci fi like are you talking like we're seeing
space planets or we go in other places as what's
happening? What are you feeling? I would love
for there to be as much as possible. OK. Because
Just North of Trouble does feel like a tongue
in cheek. Yeah. Like 50s noir type of thing.
But I like the you know, a slow burn element
of it. And but maybe mixing another element that,
you know, isn't kind of too much. Yeah. Maybe
throw some horror into there. OK. OK. OK. What
about sci fi comedy? Yeah, I mean, definitely
never happen. But maybe if we can we can hold
to the line of this one. Yeah, like straight
sci fi. That's the kind of yeah. Are we talking
to it? But I'd love for there to be space travel.
Yeah, I love ships. It's part of the sci fi,
I think, at least figuring out how to do actually
now Blade Runner is very similar to what we're
talking about. It is it is now that I'm definitely
got that cyberpunk future tech retro futurism
going on. Do you want a retrofuturism? Is that
what you're looking for? Well, I'd like to maybe
distance from that and try to make that maybe
more, you know, some of the sci -fi that I like
is just the futures right here. Yeah, there's
a lot of... All the tech is kind of new, but
you're just like, hmm, but maybe we have this
element of things that you don't normally get
to see. Right. You know what I mean? That's an
upper echelon. So you have a class thing. Which
is kind of fun. There's elements of that. It
definitely feels like a noir story that you're
telling. I don't know if we need a PI specifically,
but it definitely feels like, I don't know, some
aristocrat. Have you seen Altered Carbon or Red?
I like that show. Good show. That's also sci
-fi and the ideas and concepts there. Soylent
Green. That's another one of my favorites. It's
a murder mystery in this. This is quite a genre
pick. All right. So we have quite a range. Yeah,
we do. All right. Let's try and narrow down.
Who would you want to star in a sci -fi movie?
Any recommendations? Anybody you haven't seen
in a sci -fi? or that you think would actually
absolutely destroy a sci -fi role? We have this
conundrum in front of us because I'm going to
be very transparent. I always get pulled into
this kind of reality once we start talking. About
stars? Yeah, and I try to think practical and
now I forget that we have access to everybody.
You can go far back. You know what I mean? Yeah.
We can go far back. Yeah. Leslie Nielsen was
in sci -fi movies. We talked about it last night.
We talked about it last night. So, you know,
anybody I'd like for him to be in this Leslie
Nielsen, maybe as the bad guy as the bad guy.
Is he going to be like our Corpo CEO? I always
like when when there is against type like that.
It is always fun. You know, how would that person
act in that particular? This is 90 percent of
my choices. That's why I picked them, because
not to say that they can't do it, but it's like
They very rarely get the opportunity to flex
those muscles, and it's so fun to let them free
to do it. I really enjoy Numi Rapace. She was
probably most notable in the remake of or in
the original Girl of the Dragon Tattoos. She
was in Prometheus. She was that lead scientist.
And I like her edge and her. Like range and I
like this press possibly being female driven.
Yeah However, that looks okay. So if sci -fi
does have a lot of great female leads Yeah, like
there's I don't know why saying it's too much
No, i'm just saying it seems strange that like
women get really great sci -fi leads But then
like in others it seems to be lacking not to
say it's anybody's fault Just seems like sci
-fi has a very high counter strong female characters.
Yeah a lot of uh, you know, uh, deference and
honor goes to Sigourney Weaver is, you know,
a lot of call back to like one of the OGs. Yeah.
The first line, my spacing honor, her name, Sarah
Connor, Linda Hamilton. Yes. The great, she took,
she took it up a notch with those muscles. Yep.
Definitely ratcheted it up. But like, it just
seems that there's a lot of women in sci -fi
that get the greatness title thrown out. I like,
by the way, um, I like Linda Hamilton. And this
is like some kind of matriarch. Like in her prime
or now. Like as a matriarch tech. Maybe like
infused into a wall somehow. You think it's sci
-fi? She's the AI overlord? I don't know. I know.
She's just a person. Just a person. Just a weird
thing. Like has to be fused into the wall. I
like Linda Hamilton so much. Sorry. Not a deep
cut, but deep cut. Not with like barnacles of
his ass and not his face, but like... If you're
open with with with putting Linda Hamilton on
the board for a second. Yeah. I think she has
this happiness. I think I think so. I did have
an actress who came to my mind. Oh, yeah. To
say that has to be the lead role. But definitely
I think in this, I think Jennifer Connelly would
be great in a hard sci fi role that it seems
we're cooking up. She was just talking about
the House of Sand and Fog, but Dark City. Yeah,
she was also in the show Snowpiercer. If you
haven't seen it. She nails it. Well, what if
you put her in her and in a certain, you know,
as the lead in a certain decade, like not labyrinthine,
right? You know, career opportunities. But if
she is the lead, I could see it. All right. You
know, we put her in a 90s. OK. Starship trooper
style. Yeah. Oh, like. So I think maybe we need
to have whatever story we're telling. We see
prime Jennifer Connelly prime. Yeah, yeah. Whatever
we're telling. But she is, again, a very weighty
actress. Maybe we can get her to be a plucky
character. Ooh, a different... A little pluckier.
Yeah. Why am I saying plucky? But it would be
neat to see her to have some lightness. It's
fun to say different words. Yeah. Am I wrong?
Is everything that she is in... Definitely has
something and Stark water and I mean like no,
but she definitely has the gravitas I think everything
I've seen her in except for Labyrinth has that
she's not in it She has gravitas opportunities.
She's it has no like no personality. I think
she's a psychopath It just was just based off
of movies. Yeah So yes, let's have you want her
Connelly prime with some energy. Okay, let's
have some happiness with some like with this
character Okay. Like we want to root for you.
Hopeful. Okay. I see it. I see it. Yeah. We're
looking for hopeful. Like witty. All right. All
right. All right. All right. Witty, hopeful,
sci -fi. We need to figure out what the deal
is. Yeah. We have a couple of choice actors.
We're definitely kind of figuring out. We're
thinking heavier feels like. Yeah. Leslie Nielsen.
All right. Well, this is about the time we have
an idea. Jennifer Connelly, she's why is she
hopeful? What? Yeah. Do you like the idea of
it being just around the corner type of thing
like a payback type of movie? I just now and
think I want to pay back, by the way, as a mystery.
I mean, we're titled Just North of Trouble. For
some reason, my brain went to, like, 90s sci
-fi and I want to say soldier. Like, we need
to have, like, that kind of... Have we had this
discussion? I don't know, but I believe that
movie needs awards. That movie needs, if not
a remake, at least to be remembered. So, would
you like a... Now, they are not enhanced in any
way except for by birth. They're conditioned.
Yeah. Do you like that idea of mind conditioning
and mind control? If there's ever a story for
the time, we could definitely have an indoctrination.
Somebody who comes back different and is like
a Manchurian candidate scenario. That could be
fun. I like the mind control thing because we
need somebody in this movie who could Kurt Russell
and soldier because he is so heartbreaking. Yeah.
And he doesn't say anything. Saying zero words.
Does he say any lines? Like 10? Yeah, he's looking
to the amount of money he got paid per line because
dang it's gotta be a Importionate disproportionate
ratio. There's a lot of grunting if I remember
a lot of physicality. It's it's but he there's
a scene There's a bunch of scenes where he you
know uses those blue eyes And you know, he's
looking at like being able to show through but
that's fucking compelling. Mm -hmm that you are
so emotionally hardened and trained Are you thinking
of that? That's fascinating. I think that's cool.
All right. Does she go in as a hopeful, plucky
character and we see her? Could we have twins?
Could we have a twins? It's a clone situation
scenario. Maybe. Yeah. Well, I like the idea
that she's the main character and somebody somebody
close to her is kidnapped. Oh, OK. So like is
she and they need it for jeans, especially or
some shit, you know, like they don't really have
it right. So you're thinking like repo man style,
almost like you're or the island. And we can
put repo genetic opera. Yeah. All right. So what
is happening in our sci fi world that Jennifer
Connelly is, is she being harvested? Is that
our people being harvested off the streets? Is
that what's happening? This is the world we're
building. OK, our sci fi movie, Just North of
Trouble. Is it all about her? But it's got to
be a little light, you know, a little light.
OK. So we're doing essentially abduction Other
stuff, okay. Okay. I'm down this sounds but I'd
like the idea of mind control if we can have
and I think Linda handle the Hamilton needs to
be the big bad. Okay Masta's the big good and
she she's a clone. That's like a big thing cuz
there's like a Weird so like you know, she should
play psychotic Is she our CEO? She's the savior
of the city. She's going to run for mayor, RoboCop
style. She's going to clean up the streets, but
turns out she's the one making the streets dirty.
Down. Let's do it. Yeah, but psycho. Yeah. Just
full Joker mode. Yeah, another level. Like maybe
more toned down because we want this kind of
like a noir thing. Yeah. But, you know, to the
like scary level of like Jigsaw. Yeah. At what
point do we get to show her being terrifying?
Because do we do it behind the scenes or do you
just like, do you do it kind of fits element
style where like you don't really show it to
like, hey, here's the terrifying scene. I think
giving her this kind of task of in whatever the
backstory is, whether it's chemically altered,
there's mind control gone wrong. Hear me out.
All right. So if she's if Linda Hamilton's are
like big bad. Yeah. And Jennifer Connelly is
our upstart hero. What if it turns out like that's
actually her daughter and she needs her to stay
alive? Yeah, like Snow White style. Like, yeah,
it turns out that Leslie Nielsen, like this grandfather
or father. Cloning isn't even the thing. It's
all about like actual genetics. Yeah, it's all
about genetics. Like they think it's about what
if it's like they actually did build her like
she is the first like fully built clone and she's
going to like keep Linda Hamilton's character
alive. Yeah, definitely. Like that's the play.
That's great. I like that. That's really fun.
That's a cool concept. And it's a good little
twist -a -roo because you think there's this
other cottage industry going on. Yeah, like the
clones are already among us and nobody knows.
Yeah, nobody knew anything. It's the biggest
ruse because they're just told because of mind
control. Yeah, there's there's I want to go a
step further and say we're not necessarily mind
controlling, like directly like influencing thoughts.
I want to do more. They live style like it's
subtle. Like if you if you're not paying attention,
you're not noticing it. But the idea is there
is a there's a nation of people, this generation
or what have you, who think and know that there
are clones among you. Yep. Some of you are clones.
None of them are clones. Turns out she's the
first one. She's the first. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, that feels actually really fun. That
does feel fun. OK. And you don't even need mind
control. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like,
it's all propaganda. You just need to create
the concept of, you know, like, this is a thing.
You're a clone. You're a clone. Just they convince
everybody. You could have special pills for the
clone. All right. Are we talking just on this
planet or are we going to other planets as well?
Because you like the idea of being just on the
horizon. Yeah, that's similar to this. And there's
space travel you never see. But it exists. I
think there that Linda Hamilton needs to be traveling
to a planet that Leslie Nielsen is on. OK, was
the big, big bad. Oh, like he's summoning her
back. Yeah. OK. For what? That's a good question,
right? You'd stump her. And that's just north
of trouble. That's just north of trouble. I like
the idea of she needs, uh, Trevor Connelly to
stay alive or to, you know, to if not become
her, you know, to like inhabit her some way,
shape, like sci -fi, you know, like, Hey, I'm
going to die. This human form is dead, but I'm
going to take over yours. Right. So the idea
that there is this off world Yeah, sinister force
is cool. That gives us some options Is there
like an Elysium style like elitism going like
that that the fact that there's you know, we've
created a place where Classism and it could be
a thing. Yeah, we have people who are clones
They're given specific duties that they can only
do so it's a way to control the idea that the
planet They're on is not quite habitable anymore
Yeah, and that's why we and they're just like
keeping the order until they've one figured out
real cloning for Or two, they figured out hardcore
space travel to get away from this dying planet.
I like the idea of the second one where they're
like, hey, if we can clone ourselves, we're going
to go hang out where it's nice and not terrible
while you guys keep doing all the harvesting
of resources to build our spaceship. Is this
the story of an exodus? Where it turns out the
people are actually just building a spaceship
to get off Earth, and Earth is actually just
dying, and they're like, you know what? We're
going to get out of here with the people we can
get out of here with. Well, we can't stop working.
So we're going to, quote unquote, clone some
folks and just kind of let them know that they're
not worth anything because they're clones. Because
you have this story, this narrative of clones.
So like you can tell a populace anything at that
point. Just north of trouble. Yeah. All right.
This movie, I would say this movie is going to
have some messaging for sure. Some people are
going to hate this movie for things it has to
say. But the thing is, Jennifer Connolly is the
first clone. And what's cool is Linda Hamilton
is Jennifer. Yeah. So we need some makeup stuff
to happen eventually. You know what I mean? Yeah.
And that maybe adds to, you know, some of the
madness that she's feeling, you know? Yeah, because
of the success of this thing, because we do.
We want Jennifer Connelly to expire. Oh, the
clone dies before they're supposed to. And they
clone her again. And again, Mickey 17 style.
They just keep doing it. I want to. Yeah, I mean,
it's inherent once you know, because you can
reveal this at any time. Yeah, honestly. Once
you know they're going to be some subtle costume
changes. You have to be like, do we need to establish
rules? She is the first one. Do they know she's
going to be successful as a as a lifespan like
so though the clothes that we're creating Are
optimally like a perfect copy of a person and
they'll have the normal human lifespan They can't
then they have these moral moral issues like
they can't live out longer. We can only transfer
the consciousness They get like a 30 -year lifespan
something like that. Okay. Okay, so what's happening
is Oh Jennifer Connelly Yeah, has somebody who's
kidnapped. Mm hmm. OK. And that's in order to
get Jennifer Connelly into the story. All right.
So I like a kidnapping. So you're thinking that
Jennifer Connelly is has a kid. Yeah. So she's
a clone, has no idea she's a clone. We have some
young actor, actress play their child. The child
is abducted. Turns out like it was a whole ruse
anyway to test this out. And it was a science
experiment to see how she would do. Oh, that's.
That's devious. That's mean. What's our red herring?
How do we how we throw the foil is the red herring
like turns out the kid wasn't like her kid at
all. That's always good. That's always good when
there's a follow up attack on the bad guy. Yeah.
Yeah. Somehow it's a robot baby. I don't robot
child. Could you have Jennifer Connelly in on
it the whole time as a big, long, great game
twist like she knew she was a clone but didn't
know sleeper agents live. Yeah. Because I took
that pill. Oh, it didn't work on like we like
do a moment. Yeah. And that's how she finds out
the narrative. Yeah. Threshold. OK. You have
this way that she is completely exposing the
whole thing. What if the idea that means the
planet's actually dying and maybe it's not. Yeah.
You know what I mean? I like the idea. I know
you said, like, you know, nor revenge kind of
thriller. Like, I can also see this going like,
oh, boy, gross. No, I can see this going like
Kill Bill, Kill Bill style. Like we start with
like a quick scene at the beginning and then
like the rest of his her drive for revenge. Definitely
like Star Trek nemesis. You have Picard and then
young Picard played by Tom Hardy interacting
with each other. Well, now I've said it. Yeah.
Now you've ruined it. Can Tom Hardy be in it
as the as the father of the child? Oh, very easily.
I can see a Tom Hardy in this movie. Deranged
or or is he playing straight man? Very nice,
very nice, caring, lovable. He sings a song.
He wears a hoodie everywhere. No, he has no hoodies.
Yeah, it's full hair. He sings a special song
to his daughter. OK, done. Just this wholesome
father character. Yeah. Does he get killed? Is
that the red herring? He gets killed. Turns out
he took the daughter. He was in on it. I don't
want Tom Hardy to be a double -crosser. He's
perfect for it. He's perfect for it. Yeah. Does
he get redeemed for this double -cross? No, it's
genius. It's great. It's great. Because it can
maybe, you know, maybe he's a clone and they
use that. What if they tell him this is the only
way that he'd get off the planet, like his daughter?
What if they tell him that like, if they do this,
they'll take the daughter. You believe them?
Yeah, yeah. Make him slightly naive. I don't
know if he's slightly naive, but he's trying
to do what's best for his family, right? So it's
not a willing double -crosser. He is a dumb double
-crosser. I thought it would be good for the
family. Most people kind of get coerced into
double -crossing or they're actively well aware
of what they're doing. So he dies. Yeah, he's
definitely going to die. Is he killed by like
eating shellfish, poison shellfish? Just he suicides
himself. So Jeremy Connolly doesn't have to?
No, that was a call back to Venom. OK, OK, no,
no, he was missing that one. That one went, whoo!
That's OK. I haven't seen the Venom movie. That's
what this is for. No, that's OK. I don't feel
bad about this. I feel bad about it. So Tom Hardy
is the father figure Jennifer Connelly is married
to this man and we They assume that the kid is
biological and is this like Is this very much
Truman show like they're always watching her
or do they or did or was she a clone who escaped?
Well, no, I think she she's an experiment like
she's put out in the world and she is a clone
of Linda Hamilton who doesn't look like her gotcha
gotcha and we'll figure that out and some horrific
I would like the idea of Linda. Yeah either like
definitely like but unhinged Linda Hamilton I
need it like to can Linda Hamilton have like
a somebody she's taking her shit day out on.
Oh, just like the bad intern. Just the bad intern
just gets it. If you want that energy, that's
hilarious because an intern has hope. Yeah, an
intern does have hope. So it could be that. But
I would like Linda Hamilton needs a literal and
emotional punching bag. Yeah. And and somebody
who like the top scientist brings the darkness
like, you know, as well. But she needs to be
able to rage. I like that. I like it. Who are
you thinking? Who you got? Carrie Elwes. Oh,
I love it. I love it. Like at present. At present
times? Yeah. Old and older Carrie Elwes. Yeah.
I can see it. She's Linda Hamilton prime -ish.
Uh -huh. And she's just railing on him. Like
the 80s, 90s. And he's playing this, what, like
older scientist character. Who are you seeing
him as? Yeah. Exactly. And she's like, he's the
head of the program and like she's the she's
the money. She's she's in charge of it all. Yeah,
she's the she's the overseer. Is she like, is
she a Gary Oldman character from The Fifth Element?
Like she just she's a go court. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
But I need more. I need more from her. I need
her to take all the early Hollywood sexism, continuing
Hollywood sexism, all of it and all that rage.
Channel into this character throw just north
of trouble just north of trouble. I like it I
don't think the title has to have that much no
to do with it because I think the idea is that
there's always kind of trouble as this kind of
mystery sci -fi Noir piece that may have a Usual
suspect style reveal okay that it was plucky
but naive Not so Jennifer Connelly the whole
time not so You know, it had this has a lot of
those ingredients of a fun movie. It does. All
right. Who do you want to direct this fun sci
fi dark clone masterpiece? We've talked about
a lot of movies we have that really strike close
to this. We have we have. What if Kubrick does
it? Kubrick. Oh, the perfectionist. OK, we didn't
talk about how much and how long it would take.
Yeah, I mean, unlimited budget for sure. Let's
do it. Kubrick's definitely there. He is his
is going to be the one year after 2001 Space
Odyssey. Possibly. Andrew Nickel, he directed
Gattaca, The Truman Show. He wrote and direct
those. OK, that could be a good writer. I think
Alex Garland. Oh. I think he has definitely made
a name for himself inside the sci -fi realm.
I know I tend to go against hype, but he's kind
of been everywhere since. Gorsh. Yeah. Yes, I'm
in. He would definitely find the right tone of
sci -fi for this. Ex Machina is one of my favorite.
Ex Machina. He was tied in with the 28 years
later. Annihilation was awesome. Civil War, we
just recently, we just talked about this. I think
he was also one of the main reasons the movie
Dread got made. I'm physically aroused by this
idea. This is awesome. Alex Garland is so great.
He's so great. He is very talented. Unfortunately,
I think he's taking a little of the backseat
for directing right now and focusing on writing.
But you know what? There's always time to come
back for the chair. I feel like this could be
a smaller feeling movie. Yeah, this definitely
can play a little smaller. I know we were thinking
sci -fi opera, but it doesn't have to be that
large to still fulfill the opera. Right. Because
opera is grandiose in the sense of just grandiose.
So I think that we can fit that niche because
like in... In theory, everybody's kind of tied
to each other. This is what makes Star Wars interesting.
Right. Right. It was like, it was this galaxy
universe expanding thing. But like everybody
kind of had a story that connected with another
story. And that's what made it this opera. That's
a really great point. So the idea is, I think,
more like a ball of yarn. You kind of need to
have like. little pieces that connect other characters
to other things. Like, if the audience hears
this information, cool, we know of this information.
But then to know that it also relates to this
other character doing something else entirely
is what makes it an opera, I would argue. Yeah,
I think that's awesome. I like the idea of the
smaller stuff and movies that have a little aha.
So if we have the opportunity... Did you ever
see the movie Hide or Hidden? I have not. It's
a really, really good. It's a good sci -fi movie,
but it's got a hell of a twist. OK, we're going
to run it here. Spoiler alerts. I you know, I
wouldn't want to ruin it for you because I honestly
think. I don't know, I mean, just saying that
there's some kind of twist gets people excited
about movies. It is nice knowing that something
is going to be different. This is why I say this.
I didn't know there was a twist. Oh, yeah. Well,
you watched it in the twist happen and you didn't
realize. Yeah, because. Yeah, that's all I got
to say about that. It was a one copy at the video
store and back when we had those. Yeah. And the
cover was really cool. And. Fear will find you
and I think it was a major movie Andrea rise
burrow actually also in it She is from oblivion
Tom Cruise. Okay, effective team. Okay, and also
Mandy but In the Duffer Brothers Oh Directed
it. Okay and wrote it. Oh, but anyway, it's it
just had a cool concept It's a family trying
to live, you know underground. Okay There's a
fear outside. There's something, but you don't
know what it is. You know what I mean? Like you
don't know what the menace is. Like they're underground,
they're hoarding, and they need to be quiet.
And of course they're precipitated outward, and
hence the twist. And it's fucking awesome, this
movie. Yeah, and it's it's great on its own.
Let's go on the recommendation list. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. But the director of that or the composer,
rather, I was talking about music also did Cabin
in the Woods. Did the descent insomnia work with
Christopher Nolan. What do you think about David
Julian is his name. David Julian sounds like
the right kind of man for this job. Yeah, because
it doesn't have to be huge. Yeah, but like doesn't
have to be sweeping, but it definitely has to
have the descent. No, I don't think I have seen
the descent. That's a movie that I am very happy
to say I saw in a theater and It was way better
because of it. Okay, it's about the Divers yes,
I've heard of it and I'm like, yeah I've never
had my buttocks clenched. Yeah so hard in my
life and claustrophobia is a real thing It not
just that and it's beginning to end just tension
tension It's so, and the sequel is great too.
So are you saying that this happy -go -lucky
hopefulness is gonna have just, we're gonna be
like barely surviving, crawling out with like
sunshine at the end? I think at the end of The
Descent there's like one... Positive sting. Yeah.
Ding. He did the prestige. OK. I'm already down.
You don't have to keep asking. So like Cabin
in the Woods had, I think, some jauntiness to
it. It had to. It had to have some fun. You think
you could do it again. Which is, yeah. Which
is, well, I think somebody, like, he clearly
has the chops to do, you know, clearly this,
this type of feel. But looking at some of what
he's done, Bachelor games. OK. Rocket Boys, a
short. Yeah, you don't have to convince me anymore.
You already got me. I think that's a fun one.
All right. That sounds like a great composer.
Do we get a director? We've decided. Yeah, we
did. Alex Garland is writing a director. Sorry,
I was like, my brain, my brain's. And are you
feeling, when you're looking at this, do you
see it as more grounded? Do you see it in a place
where. Like a Portland or do you see it in a
city? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, it definitely
has. It has like an urban futurism. Could we
say Francisco it we could, you know, because
she could still get lost in a city. It's tech
forward. You have tons of opportunity for like
we can, you know, hijinks that they can just
be on the horizon like sci fi. I mean, there's
no reason we couldn't like go to that. OK, that's
where it would be. Yeah. If stuff's. Yeah, that'd
be popping off. Yeah, we're going up into space
recreationally. Yeah, I can see that he happened
in there. Plus, I was just there. And it's going
to cost whoever making this movie a little bit.
But, you know, that's why we're making this movie.
Well, industrial or Skywalker Ranch is out there.
OK, you're thinking anytime we would drive out
to see Justice Sister, it's like one of the highway
signs, one of the big green exit right over here.
Arrow Skywalker. Go ask Mr. Lucas to film there
like. Fuck it. Anytime. I'm like, how fucking
cool is this? It's right there. There it was.
Did you see the movie about the kids in a loosely
based on a true story about the kids who broke
into Skywalker? Yeah, I was super fans. Super
fan. Yeah. Did you ever see that? Yes. It's fun.
It's a good one. It's good. Fun time. I hope
all of it's true. It would be fun if it was.
There's no way all of it's true, but. I want
to quote it, but I can't remember all the quotes.
I think the only one I remember is Han Solo sucks.
And then they get in a fight with. Oh, yeah.
Seth Rogan. He's like, I saw episode one earlier
and I got a tattoo of the coolest character in
his whole backs. George Irving's that early.
Seth Rogan. Shatner shows up in that. Do we have
a because you did this so spectacularly last
time or our first episode, forgive me. or you
put Burt Reynolds in as stripper or something
like that. Do we have a fun, even if it's like
Charlton Heston as the king of like cheesy sci
-fi, is it a character or a character actor?
Do you put a Clint Howard in this? Okay. Do you
need, um, you know, just, uh, can, can we put
Jean du Hargine in this, the French guy from
the artist as like a junk dealer or something?
We could. As like a scraggly character, please.
Yeah. Your comic relief character. Yeah, in a
way. Some way. Suave, like it, you know. Charismatic.
I'm a clone. Are you sure you don't want to,
like, curse himself through this? What about
Billy Zane's role? Oh, yes. I love that idea.
As you're, like, your drug dealer? Yeah. That'd
be great. Just a street urchin drug dealer. That
would be amazing. In desperate times, call for
desperate measures. I'm a clone, whatever. Yep.
Whatever. Cool with it. You know, they clone
perfection. The only... That's definitely a quote.
That's definitely a quote for the movie. If that's
not in the movie, I'm not watching this movie.
Is that the tagline? It might have to be our
tagline. All right. Just north of trouble, they
only clone perfection. And here's the idea. That
works as a tag because... In this world, you
go into the movie thinking cloning's real. And
you're wondering, like, what the fuck are they
talking about? And Zane could have that line.
Like, three quarters of the way through it. And
it's just him being cocky, having nothing to
do with shit. There's your red herring. And then
you realize Linda Hamilton would only, you know,
once they figured it out, clone perfection. How
does Jennifer Connelly run into our Billy Zane
character? Does it turn out that Tom Hardy was
secretly doing drugs? He's still a wholesome
dad, but this isn't one vice. Do you want him,
Billy Zane, as a scamp? Yeah, I kind of love
this idea that Tom Hardy... What if they are...
There's this illicit drug market. Okay, let's
give Tom Hardy, I have a wild idea. Let's give
him a little bit of fun in that they are in an
underground fighting thing. Oh, he's in an underground
fight? So he's really tough. Okay. And like he's
doing steroids or something. Maybe Zane runs
this thing. Oh, he's like a bookie. Yeah, we
give it some kind of like whatever this world's
fight thing is. And he does that. and it's fun
because he's a great dad and he's super loving
and you're like oh there he is we just call it
juice fights and it's where these guys get just
like they just stare at each other like demolition
man style no they put helmets on and they're
like i'm fighting you now no i think more uh
when the guy's nose starts bleeding like because
we're we're waiting for the sci -fi thing so
it'd be cool if like they have the synthetic
Hill or something's, you know, steroid adjacent
where like you black out, but like your animalistic
part of the brain kicks in. Oh, that's cool.
And so like he doesn't know what he's actually
doing, but like he this is how he's sustaining,
you know, sustaining the family or whatnot. And
so like he like this Billy Zane character is
still his bookie, but also like this drug deal.
I like this idea of him being a drug dealer and
like synthetic love futuristic drugs. That's
super fun. Yeah, I think because Tom Hardy is
still sympathetic. But he gets to rage. Because
I think people would not like it. What if, like,
write it, the story of, like, is them trying
to get enough as a family to get off planet,
and every time they get so close, the price increases
again. Yeah, and that's great, because it's,
Jennifer Connelly could rage at her mom when
she meets, has this conversation saying, like,
you kept us in poverty. Like, he died doing this
shit. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Zane's like,
I know. And, and you, but she was like, it's
necessary. I was, it was necessary for you to
come to your full potential. Like as the real
clone, you're like, what the fuck? Yeah, this
is going to be. What do you mean the real clone?
What do you mean? Clones aren't real. You're
the only one. She peels her face off the wall.
I don't know why we get a Cronenberg. I feel
if we don't get a Cronenberg face. I want a body
horror thing and I want her to have some body
or we need a surprise body. Yeah. What's your
favorite? Please put a surprise body. You know,
it's a underrated one. Give it to me in the RoboCop
remake. The one really there's body horror in
that one. Yeah. When in its genius, because Gary
Oldman, have you seen it? I have not. I I'm sorry,
I'm a true blue stick to the OG. Oh, me too.
It's actually Paul Verhoeven. It's a fun, it's
a fun concept. Mount Rushmore. And, and it's,
it pales in comparison by the reveal that he
has to himself. So Gary Oldman is standing in
front of him and he's like all, you know, in
his, oh, in the original, he's just kind of in
a cradle, right? So he's in this thing that you
think is a cradle and he's pressing the doctor
on what is left of him. And the thing starts
to slowly pull apart all the robot stuff. And
there's like a half a lung. Oh, OK. So like they
actually give it to you. And you just see him
sitting there is like two percent of a person.
And it's gnarly. OK, OK. Super powerful. But
just that's because he's like, I need to know.
And he's like, you do not want to know what's
left of you. Definitely see there being some
body or slowly pull apart. So is the whole thing
like so. Linda Hamilton, is it like we don't
show her in a full like daylight or anything?
We do it like Brando style, like she's in shadows
and like turns out she's very disfigured and
whatnot. And we need her to be able to rage at
Carrie. Yeah. Yeah. I love the idea of just poor,
sad carry always insane. Just like anybody their
bodies, their friends for sure. Oh, yeah, they've
got back story. Yeah, because this is where he's
getting the drugs from. Yeah, this is where he's
getting the carry always got abducted, you know,
and conscripted to work for her. He was indebted.
What do you mean? That's great. He was caught
making illicit drugs and she's like, yo, come
make non illicit drugs for my company. And then
the company skyrocketed in popularity. And now
here he is, you know, on the board and she's
still the boss. Yeah. But like, you know, do
we need elements of the story that like, you
know, and I think what could be more tragic is
like more like clone on clone crime, things that
are done. And they're just like, you fucking
that sucks so bad. Because you're not a clone.
Yeah, we were literally. Everybody's been convinced
that they're all this medication that makes you
feel and act a certain way. Yeah. So like Tom
Hardy is just like he doesn't think he's a real
person. So like he's like, so what if I die?
They'll just build another one, another husband.
Oh, there's a lot of nihilism that's going to
happen in this. Yeah. But the idea that you could
have this long con of setting up a world of clones.
Yeah. simply by having, I don't know, nobody
could be in on it but her. She's the only one.
She could be all computer, and even the doctors
delivering don't know. They're just told. There's
a lot of authoritarianism going on. You know
what I mean? We are hitting a lot of themes on
this movie. This movie's gonna have layers to
it. Then again, births are still happening naturally,
so they have to be clones and utero. Like they
are identified as such because that's what's
happening. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. I just, that's
a loophole that I just thought of. And you know,
that's, that's a little bit of artistic license,
but hey, for the story we're willing to have
a little fun. The Island is a perfect parallel
to this in a way because there's that mystery
of it. You know, there's a breakaway. And then
you have the elitism of Elysium. Yeah. You know,
in the confrontation between Jennifer Connelly
and Linda Hamilton. And again, about like all
of my struggles. Yeah. Come come back to this
one thing. Turns out nothing and I'm nothing.
Does Jennifer Connelly die at the end and the
kid lives? I think we leave it very ambiguous.
I think we leave it to the imagination. Wait,
like they just absorb into a shadow together?
Oh, I don't know. Is that what's going to happen?
Oh, do they have to reabsorb? They reabsorb.
And then you wonder, like, which person came
back. Oh, we end it with the child. And there's
just a mannerism. The child. Mommy? Yeah. And
then, like, whoever turns around, we just don't
show. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Roll credits. That's
terrible. No, it's great. Oh my gosh. Your imagination
is so much. Ending on a cliffhanger? It's not
a cliffhanger. It's a sequel bait. What are you
talking about? This sounds like the perfect ending.
The whole premise is nobody knows if they're
a clone or not. And then we end on the clone
and the real person becoming one essentially.
And we don't know which one's the clone. Yeah,
this is the end of Star Trek, the motion picture.
So they merge with feature. This is fucking cool.
Yeah, this is we're going to have some fun. The
substance, right? I know. No, I have not. I've
seen the bits and pieces of like the internet
was all over and it's fucking great. Yeah, fucking
great. I could see some body. And just when you're
like, oh, that's as far as they're going to go.
And then they're like, what have we went further?
No. And I'll go to 11 into absurdist territory.
Yeah. And which is why a lot of people don't
like it. That's OK. But. I guess I'd rather you
go for it. Yeah, go for broke. You know, and
it doesn't like ruin it if the last scene or
the last minute blows it, in my opinion. I don't
really fault a whole movie for that. I don't
know if it... I mean... It's got an extreme.
It's going to be a decisive event. Yeah, people
are going to be mad no matter what. But I mean,
I don't know about landing on it. There's no
answers. Like you can't ask for answers from
this movie because the movie can only pose questions,
I feel like, unfortunately. Yeah, for sure. Because
like how are we going to solve the answer of
I don't know, this or this or that like clones
of the desperation of the planet? Like the movies
we can't provide those answers. I'd love to see
the idea explored more of of this. mind control
that isn't even mind control. It's like systems.
It's the system that's manipulated and people
are just comfortable using it. And I'm told that
I'm a clone. And how clever I had to take this
pill. Everybody's a clone. And that's why I'm
regulated. And I can only do these things. And
we have underground clone fights. Yeah. And we
have clone parts selling. And it's like, you
did not have to have You didn't have to do any
of this. Yeah, this sounds your organs aren't
any different. This sounds definitely don't have
a shelf life. Yeah, we're going to get a body.
This is definitely a hard R rated, right? Hard
R. We can't make this a PG -13 movie. I don't
think we could do it. There's going to be a really
valid question. I know they're going to try.
The question is, should it be? I don't think
so. Do you? I think any studio, a major studio
would push for it to be PG -13. I think everybody
would push for a PG -13 series. Yeah. I'm gonna
as I saw one of the people who just created in
the last hour or so I Feel like we need blood
and go I would love to see that and again culminating
in some of that body horror that you talked about
Yeah, that's a great idea. We can definitely
sneak somebody early and that sacrifice and then
you do not know who came back out Yeah, yeah,
I think that that needs to be happening I think
we need even start like you say with the body
horror like I was sacrifice himself Like, he
prevents the thing. Zane lives, he always dies.
For sure. So a little injustice within the movie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I dig this. I really, I think
this is super fun. And hopefully our excess of
plot. Yeah. Carmically makes it. Yeah, hopefully
we've solved anything. There's no space avalanche
on this. It just gets absorbed into ice. Space
avalanche? What would that look like? There's
an avalanche on the ship. It's vented out into
space. That's a large ship that you have an avalanche
on a ship. What would you need that much snow
for? Well, if they were commercial salmon fishing.
Oh, OK. OK. Those big base. No, they were coming
back from the from the rain. Casually, you hide
a body in there and you're like, that's not fair.
No, no. Here's what happened is they were bringing
back ice chunks from the belt, you know, the
melt. I love it. Hell, yeah. It's a rare thing.
It's a tsunami. People distill that water and
they make a joke. They make like a drug out of
it. Yeah, it's belt ice, man. It's the shit.
I like it as a joke. We've made like pretty solid
elevator pitches for like two to three other
movies I would go see. Yeah, this is a good point.
How much time we got left here? Are we killing
it? We did it with maybe under nine minutes to
spare. Oh, all right. And for those keeping track
at home, we didn't stop the timer when we took
our pause. So you'll just have to accept the
gospel. And hopefully you didn't notice any of
that. And you just really love all the stuff
that we're doing and get at us. Yeah. If you
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They sure have. Well, Logan, I think we did it.
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