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Welcome to A Little Unscripted, the show where

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we pull a random title, spin a random genre,

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and then try to create a film that honestly shouldn't

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work, and is impossible, and is way too expensive,

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and no one's asking for, but that's the fun,

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one idea, one hour, and zero guarantees. Let's

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make this thing. Good day. I'm Ryan. I'm Logan

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and no matter what we are going to make a movie

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today again We're very excited about this because

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we only partially made one last time. Yeah, we

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realized as I was leaving Recording with you.

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I was like we were kind of skipped a little bit

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embroiled in scandal immediately immediately

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right to the chase what I You've been thinking

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about this. Have you? No, I actually left it.

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You didn't text me at all or anything. No, I

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was thinking about texting you about like halfway

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through the drive when I got home. And then I

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spaced on that. And I was like, you know, instead

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of worrying and trying to think about how it's

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going to go, I'm going to keep it just there.

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And when we get here to do this, I'm going to

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be ready. We're addressing it. Look at us. Look

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at our transparency. We could assume. Because

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we set up a particular scenario. We did. We did.

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There was an avalanche and they were rescued.

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Yes. And we talked about who made it, how they

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were rescued is one thing. Now, if we want to

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stage it. And we mentioned this earlier in the

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episode as a remake of the movie Avalanche. We

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could. We could. Starring Mia Farrow and just

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kind of replace those parts. But long story short

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is that they were embroiled. They tussled with

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an avalanche. Yes. And they found their way to

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safety. Only a few of them. Well, I mean, that's

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it's a disaster film. It's got it. You can't

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have everybody's mechanics. Yeah, we've all seen

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a disaster movie at this rate. Did we specify

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which little vent that they decided to crawl

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into and how did they cleverly duct tape themselves

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to the inside of a building? No, we did not do

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that. We didn't do that. We should have. But

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I feel like our audience is smart enough to fill

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in those gaps. I hope that they're going to be

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together. Yeah. Because our intention is to have

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some fun. Yeah, I apologize. We missed some points.

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Yes. But you know what, Doc, us put it on the

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scoreboard. We missed email us and make make

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memes about it. Make it funny. Because I want

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to see if you got any humor, if you got any fan

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art for us, you know, anybody who actually says

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humor, humor, humor, where they cut the H on

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anybody? No. Is that an East Coast thing? It

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may be because it may be. Why would they cut

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the H? Are you psyched about our cast for the

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last movie? I think our cast was all star ensemble.

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If I remember correctly, we had Denzel as our

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father figure, and he gets the heroic sacrifice.

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You killed him. I killed Denzel. I'm sorry, Denzel.

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Angela Bassett very heroically mourns him. Yes,

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saves the family. I'm really excited about Garrett

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Headland and his ability to do that weird, you

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know, vision questy. Yeah, he's just super impressive.

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I think he should be in more. I think you're

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right. I just hope he's happy. I think I think

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we'll talk off mic about all the all the movies

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that like we we've missed his because I throw

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him at you a lot like you've seen this have you

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seen this but he's and it's tied to Tron legacy.

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Okay, I make that I love that film. I love the

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Tron series. I don't think any of them were box

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office success, but I could give a shit I guess

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because I'm in a Minority of humans who really

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it's okay to run legacy may be one of my favorite

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movies of all time I'll say that I think it's

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okay to have guilty pleasures without the guilt

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So you can just have pleasure people you can

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you can just you can I'm with this into the soul

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This might be a nice door. How about that disaster?

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Well, you were a little bit curious about what

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we'd get today Yeah, and I did too and honestly

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This is a little self aware, but this is what's

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fun about doing the show is that it's kind of

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a good perpetual motion machine for us because

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that feel is like I. And again, we've been out

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of our wheelhouse quite a bit. Yeah, I don't

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think we've been in the wheelhouse yet, except

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for our test. One was pretty fun and nobody's

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ever going to hear it, but it was fun. So we

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have a lot of gravitas in our in our disaster

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film. And I think that should come back. Yeah,

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I think I'll be honest. I was most stoked for

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Jim Varney. being our CEO, Corpo guy, because

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he would RIP. True. True. Gone too soon. Gone

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too soon. All right. Well, we have all right.

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We have our numbers. And at this point, we're

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ready. It is anything we have 52 and 11. So again,

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as a reminder, what we need to do is in 60 minutes,

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we have to create a film from beginning to end

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in our interpretation of it. Yeah. Reacts, preferably.

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Whatever the end is, you know, it's a thing.

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Maybe we'll do a sequel someday. We'll do a cut

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the block. Lesser pitches have been made. Yeah.

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Nobody else I know. I don't know anybody, but

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everybody else I know doesn't give an hour long

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pitch of who they want in their films. Usually

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it's an elevator pitch. And we're like, what

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if we stretched it to an hour? So in our very

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vague concept, very fully fleshed out concept

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of a film needs to have a character. Somebody

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somebody's got to be in this movie. I don't know

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if I could do a movie or something with a room.

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We just just a wall. We haven't been pushed yet,

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but if we don't push us, don't push us. We are

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close to the edge. Don't don't look at that.

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Please don't. I was just is all in. We need to

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come up with a director of this and a tagline.

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Yes, which is side note. front note, been one

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of the more fun things to do. Yeah, it is. Whoever

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comes up with tag lines for movie posters, kudos.

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However you do it. I mean, love doing it. Yeah.

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If you are making these tag lines could be a

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cottage industry, you know, like somebody who

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lives, you know, in somebody's got to get in

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town. Somebody's got to do this. Our company

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does tag lines. Yeah. A whole company. And our

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neighbor does trailers. That would be wild. And

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again, not to belittle those things, because

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I know like putting trailers together and It's

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art. Everything is tough. You know what I mean?

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Nothing's easy. Yeah. So if you're in the industry

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and you're the one that comes up with taglines.

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I'd love to hear about it. And you've got a scoop

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for us. Would love to hear about it. Better yet,

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cut a trailer for our show. Ooh, cut a trailer

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with a tagline. Let's hear it. And some extras.

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What are some extras that we come up with? Ooh,

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I think we've been trying to get a composer in

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there. Maybe a location. That's easy to come

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up with composer because, I mean, for me, I don't

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know about you, but I... music really is it makes

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or breaks. It definitely for me anymore. It's

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everything else is fixable and all in air quotes.

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But yeah, music. It's kind of interesting. That's

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a great point is something that says you can't

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fix it with nothing. Yeah. Yeah. Which is the

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extreme fix. Yeah. Like some movies like Once

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Upon a Time in the West, where they open on like

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the extreme silence of the scene. Yeah, that's

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that's a real tone. But what are your thoughts

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on? Birdman or an unexpected virtue of ignorance,

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a title, and that soundtrack of just being drums.

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I don't think it's a bad idea. It definitely

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sets a pace. To be flirt with that idea in previous

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episodes. I think you've bought a Birdman before.

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Like a simple concept for the soundtrack. Well,

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I don't want to blow anybody's mind, but even

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the Talladega Nights, the ballad of Ricky Bobby

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is like one song over and over and over. What?

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Yeah. Next time you watch the ballad of Ricky

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Bobby. like really listen to it. And it's like

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just like a guitar twang. That's tremendous.

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And it's sorry. I may have watched it too much.

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It's a great movie. It's like I've grown up with

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it. Makes me laugh. Yeah. All the way. I said

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this recently at home. Will Ferrell has like

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the key to my funny bone. He could stand there

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and you would laugh at him. I believe. Yes. That's

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like, you know, that sounds belittling to Will

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Ferrell. I'm sorry. I don't know. I think he

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owes his millions of dollars to that characteristic

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very much, because he's very relatable. Location

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and otherwise. We went deep on casts. We've been

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pretty deep on some ensembles. That's been fun.

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All right. So our 52. Is that one for me? No,

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that's me. That's you. 52. And our title is,

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I should be better, Just North of Trouble. Oh,

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that's not bad. Just north of trouble. All right.

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And you said eleven, if I remember correctly.

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That would be a sci fi movie. Are we finally

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talking about wheelhouses? Did we finally hit

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it? It only took us a couple of episodes, but

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we did it. Wow. We got there. We can't say anything

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yet. We got to start this timer. So we're going

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to write some notes and get prepared. That's

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I'm vaguely excited. No, distinctly excited to

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be honest about that title. Just north of what

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was a trouble trouble just just north of trouble

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It's just vague and like ambiguous enough that

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we can make it anything we can go full sci -fi

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space opera if we wanted to Meaning with singing

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I mean Is that what it requires? Do you know

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who I think could do anything is Hemsworth? Make

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him sing all of it all of it every line and he's

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the next you drive Hugh Jackman in his face Keep

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throwing it right in his face because you know

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he's competitive like Hugh Jackman would have

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He would have buckled down harder. For sure.

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For sure. He'd be doing push -ups while doing

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this vocal warm -up. Yeah, just to show off.

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All right. All right. Before we cast this, before

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we do this, what just happened? I think that

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was a good side detour. Yeah. I think we're limber

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enough that we can say that. And I'm ready to

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start this timer. This is not exactly where we'll

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end up. We can't end up that way. Who knows?

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You don't know that. Timer has started just north

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of trouble. Just north of trouble. All right.

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What's your favorite brand of sci -fi right now?

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Right now? Yeah, I'll be honest. I mean, just

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just got done on the rewatch of The Expanse.

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Oh, goodness. Yeah. Quite. So what genre would

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you call that? I think broadly that is space

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opera. I think it's a realistic take on space

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opera. But it's noir. Yeah, it has a noir flavoring

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to it. But I don't think noir is necessarily

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the major. And that's a rarity that murder mystery

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space. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's tough to. I think

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the overall grand scheme of things is space opera,

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but that doesn't start on that scale. Do you

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have a style of sci -fi that you think is underutilized

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or is under misunderstood? Because I mean, sci

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-fi is a large swath of things like H .G. Wells

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falls under sci -fi. I think of a movie like

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Silent Running with Bruce Dern. It's a very small

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and quiet movie, but the Earth has crumbled,

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and they've saved the last of the forests on

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these big ships, and these people are just maintaining

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them. And then they're like, well, we can't afford

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to do this anymore. You got to burn it all. And

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Bruce Dern's like, nah, I'm hijacking this. So

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it's an ecology message, similar in a way to.

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Planet of the Apes. OK, as just you keep fucking

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up, this is what's going to happen. I love that

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particular style. I love 12 Monkeys when he pops

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to the surface and you see what the world is

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like after, you know, we're gone. What a twist,

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by the way, like we did this. Like, what a red

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herring. Sorry, I'm a full of monkeys. Yeah.

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Heck yeah. The red herring throughout the whole

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film is so stellar. Perfectly done. It's the

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right balance of weird. And shame on me, honestly,

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for not recognizing and celebrating the shit

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out of Brad Pitt at that moment. Of all the roles

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that he had in the 90s, like that role should

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be the one he's remembered for, honestly. And

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it took me a long time to come around on him

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because I'm just insecure. Same thing with Leo.

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OK. But I was earlier with Brad Pitt. I really

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did start to like him earlier than... you know,

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than I would have thought. But right then I should

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have recognized. Greatness. Yeah, that was greatness

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on that one. But to get back to it, you're thinking

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more of like a slow burn sci fi like I'm wondering

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if we message you and put them together like

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a murder mystery. OK. Ecology story. All right.

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How sci fi like are you talking like we're seeing

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space planets or we go in other places as what's

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happening? What are you feeling? I would love

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for there to be as much as possible. OK. Because

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Just North of Trouble does feel like a tongue

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in cheek. Yeah. Like 50s noir type of thing.

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But I like the you know, a slow burn element

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of it. And but maybe mixing another element that,

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you know, isn't kind of too much. Yeah. Maybe

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throw some horror into there. OK. OK. OK. What

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about sci fi comedy? Yeah, I mean, definitely

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never happen. But maybe if we can we can hold

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to the line of this one. Yeah, like straight

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sci fi. That's the kind of yeah. Are we talking

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to it? But I'd love for there to be space travel.

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Yeah, I love ships. It's part of the sci fi,

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I think, at least figuring out how to do actually

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now Blade Runner is very similar to what we're

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talking about. It is it is now that I'm definitely

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got that cyberpunk future tech retro futurism

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going on. Do you want a retrofuturism? Is that

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what you're looking for? Well, I'd like to maybe

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distance from that and try to make that maybe

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more, you know, some of the sci -fi that I like

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is just the futures right here. Yeah, there's

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a lot of... All the tech is kind of new, but

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you're just like, hmm, but maybe we have this

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element of things that you don't normally get

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to see. Right. You know what I mean? That's an

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upper echelon. So you have a class thing. Which

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is kind of fun. There's elements of that. It

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definitely feels like a noir story that you're

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telling. I don't know if we need a PI specifically,

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but it definitely feels like, I don't know, some

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aristocrat. Have you seen Altered Carbon or Red?

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I like that show. Good show. That's also sci

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-fi and the ideas and concepts there. Soylent

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Green. That's another one of my favorites. It's

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a murder mystery in this. This is quite a genre

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pick. All right. So we have quite a range. Yeah,

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we do. All right. Let's try and narrow down.

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Who would you want to star in a sci -fi movie?

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Any recommendations? Anybody you haven't seen

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in a sci -fi? or that you think would actually

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absolutely destroy a sci -fi role? We have this

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conundrum in front of us because I'm going to

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be very transparent. I always get pulled into

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this kind of reality once we start talking. About

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stars? Yeah, and I try to think practical and

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now I forget that we have access to everybody.

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You can go far back. You know what I mean? Yeah.

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We can go far back. Yeah. Leslie Nielsen was

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in sci -fi movies. We talked about it last night.

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We talked about it last night. So, you know,

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anybody I'd like for him to be in this Leslie

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Nielsen, maybe as the bad guy as the bad guy.

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Is he going to be like our Corpo CEO? I always

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like when when there is against type like that.

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It is always fun. You know, how would that person

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act in that particular? This is 90 percent of

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my choices. That's why I picked them, because

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not to say that they can't do it, but it's like

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They very rarely get the opportunity to flex

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those muscles, and it's so fun to let them free

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to do it. I really enjoy Numi Rapace. She was

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probably most notable in the remake of or in

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the original Girl of the Dragon Tattoos. She

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was in Prometheus. She was that lead scientist.

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And I like her edge and her. Like range and I

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like this press possibly being female driven.

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Yeah However, that looks okay. So if sci -fi

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does have a lot of great female leads Yeah, like

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there's I don't know why saying it's too much

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No, i'm just saying it seems strange that like

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women get really great sci -fi leads But then

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like in others it seems to be lacking not to

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say it's anybody's fault Just seems like sci

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-fi has a very high counter strong female characters.

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Yeah a lot of uh, you know, uh, deference and

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honor goes to Sigourney Weaver is, you know,

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a lot of call back to like one of the OGs. Yeah.

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The first line, my spacing honor, her name, Sarah

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Connor, Linda Hamilton. Yes. The great, she took,

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she took it up a notch with those muscles. Yep.

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Definitely ratcheted it up. But like, it just

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seems that there's a lot of women in sci -fi

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that get the greatness title thrown out. I like,

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by the way, um, I like Linda Hamilton. And this

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is like some kind of matriarch. Like in her prime

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or now. Like as a matriarch tech. Maybe like

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infused into a wall somehow. You think it's sci

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-fi? She's the AI overlord? I don't know. I know.

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She's just a person. Just a person. Just a weird

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thing. Like has to be fused into the wall. I

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like Linda Hamilton so much. Sorry. Not a deep

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cut, but deep cut. Not with like barnacles of

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his ass and not his face, but like... If you're

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open with with with putting Linda Hamilton on

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the board for a second. Yeah. I think she has

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this happiness. I think I think so. I did have

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an actress who came to my mind. Oh, yeah. To

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say that has to be the lead role. But definitely

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I think in this, I think Jennifer Connelly would

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be great in a hard sci fi role that it seems

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we're cooking up. She was just talking about

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the House of Sand and Fog, but Dark City. Yeah,

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she was also in the show Snowpiercer. If you

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haven't seen it. She nails it. Well, what if

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you put her in her and in a certain, you know,

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as the lead in a certain decade, like not labyrinthine,

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right? You know, career opportunities. But if

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she is the lead, I could see it. All right. You

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know, we put her in a 90s. OK. Starship trooper

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style. Yeah. Oh, like. So I think maybe we need

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to have whatever story we're telling. We see

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prime Jennifer Connelly prime. Yeah, yeah. Whatever

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we're telling. But she is, again, a very weighty

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actress. Maybe we can get her to be a plucky

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character. Ooh, a different... A little pluckier.

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Yeah. Why am I saying plucky? But it would be

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neat to see her to have some lightness. It's

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fun to say different words. Yeah. Am I wrong?

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Is everything that she is in... Definitely has

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something and Stark water and I mean like no,

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but she definitely has the gravitas I think everything

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I've seen her in except for Labyrinth has that

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she's not in it She has gravitas opportunities.

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She's it has no like no personality. I think

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she's a psychopath It just was just based off

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of movies. Yeah So yes, let's have you want her

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Connelly prime with some energy. Okay, let's

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have some happiness with some like with this

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character Okay. Like we want to root for you.

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Hopeful. Okay. I see it. I see it. Yeah. We're

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looking for hopeful. Like witty. All right. All

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right. All right. All right. Witty, hopeful,

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sci -fi. We need to figure out what the deal

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is. Yeah. We have a couple of choice actors.

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We're definitely kind of figuring out. We're

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thinking heavier feels like. Yeah. Leslie Nielsen.

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All right. Well, this is about the time we have

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an idea. Jennifer Connelly, she's why is she

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hopeful? What? Yeah. Do you like the idea of

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it being just around the corner type of thing

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like a payback type of movie? I just now and

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think I want to pay back, by the way, as a mystery.

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I mean, we're titled Just North of Trouble. For

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some reason, my brain went to, like, 90s sci

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-fi and I want to say soldier. Like, we need

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to have, like, that kind of... Have we had this

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discussion? I don't know, but I believe that

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movie needs awards. That movie needs, if not

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a remake, at least to be remembered. So, would

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you like a... Now, they are not enhanced in any

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way except for by birth. They're conditioned.

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Yeah. Do you like that idea of mind conditioning

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and mind control? If there's ever a story for

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the time, we could definitely have an indoctrination.

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Somebody who comes back different and is like

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a Manchurian candidate scenario. That could be

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fun. I like the mind control thing because we

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need somebody in this movie who could Kurt Russell

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and soldier because he is so heartbreaking. Yeah.

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And he doesn't say anything. Saying zero words.

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Does he say any lines? Like 10? Yeah, he's looking

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to the amount of money he got paid per line because

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dang it's gotta be a Importionate disproportionate

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ratio. There's a lot of grunting if I remember

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a lot of physicality. It's it's but he there's

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a scene There's a bunch of scenes where he you

00:21:22.819 --> 00:21:26.420
know uses those blue eyes And you know, he's

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looking at like being able to show through but

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that's fucking compelling. Mm -hmm that you are

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so emotionally hardened and trained Are you thinking

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of that? That's fascinating. I think that's cool.

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All right. Does she go in as a hopeful, plucky

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character and we see her? Could we have twins?

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Could we have a twins? It's a clone situation

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scenario. Maybe. Yeah. Well, I like the idea

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that she's the main character and somebody somebody

00:21:55.609 --> 00:21:58.230
close to her is kidnapped. Oh, OK. So like is

00:21:58.230 --> 00:22:00.690
she and they need it for jeans, especially or

00:22:00.690 --> 00:22:02.569
some shit, you know, like they don't really have

00:22:02.569 --> 00:22:05.029
it right. So you're thinking like repo man style,

00:22:05.230 --> 00:22:08.009
almost like you're or the island. And we can

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put repo genetic opera. Yeah. All right. So what

00:22:12.089 --> 00:22:13.970
is happening in our sci fi world that Jennifer

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Connelly is, is she being harvested? Is that

00:22:17.089 --> 00:22:19.390
our people being harvested off the streets? Is

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that what's happening? This is the world we're

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building. OK, our sci fi movie, Just North of

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Trouble. Is it all about her? But it's got to

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be a little light, you know, a little light.

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OK. So we're doing essentially abduction Other

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stuff, okay. Okay. I'm down this sounds but I'd

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like the idea of mind control if we can have

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and I think Linda handle the Hamilton needs to

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be the big bad. Okay Masta's the big good and

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she she's a clone. That's like a big thing cuz

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there's like a Weird so like you know, she should

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play psychotic Is she our CEO? She's the savior

00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:06.539
of the city. She's going to run for mayor, RoboCop

00:23:06.539 --> 00:23:08.359
style. She's going to clean up the streets, but

00:23:08.359 --> 00:23:10.519
turns out she's the one making the streets dirty.

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Down. Let's do it. Yeah, but psycho. Yeah. Just

00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:19.279
full Joker mode. Yeah, another level. Like maybe

00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:21.619
more toned down because we want this kind of

00:23:21.619 --> 00:23:25.400
like a noir thing. Yeah. But, you know, to the

00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:29.259
like scary level of like Jigsaw. Yeah. At what

00:23:29.259 --> 00:23:32.339
point do we get to show her being terrifying?

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Because do we do it behind the scenes or do you

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just like, do you do it kind of fits element

00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:38.599
style where like you don't really show it to

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like, hey, here's the terrifying scene. I think

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giving her this kind of task of in whatever the

00:23:46.500 --> 00:23:49.119
backstory is, whether it's chemically altered,

00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:51.420
there's mind control gone wrong. Hear me out.

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All right. So if she's if Linda Hamilton's are

00:23:54.660 --> 00:23:57.289
like big bad. Yeah. And Jennifer Connelly is

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our upstart hero. What if it turns out like that's

00:24:00.970 --> 00:24:02.549
actually her daughter and she needs her to stay

00:24:02.549 --> 00:24:05.349
alive? Yeah, like Snow White style. Like, yeah,

00:24:05.630 --> 00:24:09.289
it turns out that Leslie Nielsen, like this grandfather

00:24:09.289 --> 00:24:11.490
or father. Cloning isn't even the thing. It's

00:24:11.490 --> 00:24:13.549
all about like actual genetics. Yeah, it's all

00:24:13.549 --> 00:24:15.890
about genetics. Like they think it's about what

00:24:15.890 --> 00:24:17.970
if it's like they actually did build her like

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she is the first like fully built clone and she's

00:24:20.670 --> 00:24:23.150
going to like keep Linda Hamilton's character

00:24:23.150 --> 00:24:25.009
alive. Yeah, definitely. Like that's the play.

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That's great. I like that. That's really fun.

00:24:29.009 --> 00:24:30.750
That's a cool concept. And it's a good little

00:24:30.750 --> 00:24:32.650
twist -a -roo because you think there's this

00:24:32.650 --> 00:24:35.450
other cottage industry going on. Yeah, like the

00:24:35.450 --> 00:24:37.490
clones are already among us and nobody knows.

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Yeah, nobody knew anything. It's the biggest

00:24:38.589 --> 00:24:42.089
ruse because they're just told because of mind

00:24:42.089 --> 00:24:45.089
control. Yeah, there's there's I want to go a

00:24:45.089 --> 00:24:46.950
step further and say we're not necessarily mind

00:24:46.950 --> 00:24:49.130
controlling, like directly like influencing thoughts.

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I want to do more. They live style like it's

00:24:53.009 --> 00:24:55.250
subtle. Like if you if you're not paying attention,

00:24:55.250 --> 00:24:57.670
you're not noticing it. But the idea is there

00:24:57.670 --> 00:25:00.589
is a there's a nation of people, this generation

00:25:00.589 --> 00:25:02.829
or what have you, who think and know that there

00:25:02.829 --> 00:25:06.029
are clones among you. Yep. Some of you are clones.

00:25:06.769 --> 00:25:08.569
None of them are clones. Turns out she's the

00:25:08.569 --> 00:25:11.430
first one. She's the first. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

00:25:11.690 --> 00:25:14.109
I mean, that feels actually really fun. That

00:25:14.109 --> 00:25:21.269
does feel fun. OK. And you don't even need mind

00:25:21.269 --> 00:25:22.670
control. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like,

00:25:22.750 --> 00:25:24.829
it's all propaganda. You just need to create

00:25:24.829 --> 00:25:31.269
the concept of, you know, like, this is a thing.

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You're a clone. You're a clone. Just they convince

00:25:34.630 --> 00:25:37.250
everybody. You could have special pills for the

00:25:37.250 --> 00:25:39.430
clone. All right. Are we talking just on this

00:25:39.430 --> 00:25:41.930
planet or are we going to other planets as well?

00:25:42.690 --> 00:25:45.529
Because you like the idea of being just on the

00:25:45.529 --> 00:25:48.849
horizon. Yeah, that's similar to this. And there's

00:25:48.849 --> 00:25:52.769
space travel you never see. But it exists. I

00:25:52.769 --> 00:25:55.569
think there that Linda Hamilton needs to be traveling

00:25:55.569 --> 00:25:59.670
to a planet that Leslie Nielsen is on. OK, was

00:25:59.670 --> 00:26:03.130
the big, big bad. Oh, like he's summoning her

00:26:03.130 --> 00:26:08.640
back. Yeah. OK. For what? That's a good question,

00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:10.480
right? You'd stump her. And that's just north

00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:13.059
of trouble. That's just north of trouble. I like

00:26:13.059 --> 00:26:17.700
the idea of she needs, uh, Trevor Connelly to

00:26:17.700 --> 00:26:22.059
stay alive or to, you know, to if not become

00:26:22.059 --> 00:26:24.700
her, you know, to like inhabit her some way,

00:26:24.859 --> 00:26:26.960
shape, like sci -fi, you know, like, Hey, I'm

00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:29.079
going to die. This human form is dead, but I'm

00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:33.539
going to take over yours. Right. So the idea

00:26:33.539 --> 00:26:38.000
that there is this off world Yeah, sinister force

00:26:38.000 --> 00:26:40.460
is cool. That gives us some options Is there

00:26:40.460 --> 00:26:43.440
like an Elysium style like elitism going like

00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:46.000
that that the fact that there's you know, we've

00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:48.920
created a place where Classism and it could be

00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:51.019
a thing. Yeah, we have people who are clones

00:26:51.019 --> 00:26:54.019
They're given specific duties that they can only

00:26:54.019 --> 00:26:57.099
do so it's a way to control the idea that the

00:26:57.099 --> 00:26:59.539
planet They're on is not quite habitable anymore

00:26:59.539 --> 00:27:01.859
Yeah, and that's why we and they're just like

00:27:01.859 --> 00:27:05.119
keeping the order until they've one figured out

00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:08.440
real cloning for Or two, they figured out hardcore

00:27:08.440 --> 00:27:10.900
space travel to get away from this dying planet.

00:27:11.039 --> 00:27:12.779
I like the idea of the second one where they're

00:27:12.779 --> 00:27:15.599
like, hey, if we can clone ourselves, we're going

00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:17.740
to go hang out where it's nice and not terrible

00:27:17.740 --> 00:27:19.759
while you guys keep doing all the harvesting

00:27:19.759 --> 00:27:23.299
of resources to build our spaceship. Is this

00:27:23.299 --> 00:27:29.079
the story of an exodus? Where it turns out the

00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:30.740
people are actually just building a spaceship

00:27:30.740 --> 00:27:32.460
to get off Earth, and Earth is actually just

00:27:32.460 --> 00:27:34.470
dying, and they're like, you know what? We're

00:27:34.470 --> 00:27:35.890
going to get out of here with the people we can

00:27:35.890 --> 00:27:38.470
get out of here with. Well, we can't stop working.

00:27:38.549 --> 00:27:40.369
So we're going to, quote unquote, clone some

00:27:40.369 --> 00:27:42.430
folks and just kind of let them know that they're

00:27:42.430 --> 00:27:43.670
not worth anything because they're clones. Because

00:27:43.670 --> 00:27:46.349
you have this story, this narrative of clones.

00:27:46.950 --> 00:27:49.890
So like you can tell a populace anything at that

00:27:49.890 --> 00:27:52.450
point. Just north of trouble. Yeah. All right.

00:27:52.650 --> 00:27:54.869
This movie, I would say this movie is going to

00:27:54.869 --> 00:27:56.869
have some messaging for sure. Some people are

00:27:56.869 --> 00:27:59.009
going to hate this movie for things it has to

00:27:59.009 --> 00:28:01.190
say. But the thing is, Jennifer Connolly is the

00:28:01.190 --> 00:28:03.730
first clone. And what's cool is Linda Hamilton

00:28:03.730 --> 00:28:07.829
is Jennifer. Yeah. So we need some makeup stuff

00:28:07.829 --> 00:28:09.869
to happen eventually. You know what I mean? Yeah.

00:28:10.250 --> 00:28:13.430
And that maybe adds to, you know, some of the

00:28:13.430 --> 00:28:17.750
madness that she's feeling, you know? Yeah, because

00:28:17.750 --> 00:28:21.250
of the success of this thing, because we do.

00:28:21.490 --> 00:28:24.589
We want Jennifer Connelly to expire. Oh, the

00:28:24.589 --> 00:28:26.410
clone dies before they're supposed to. And they

00:28:26.410 --> 00:28:28.769
clone her again. And again, Mickey 17 style.

00:28:28.910 --> 00:28:31.670
They just keep doing it. I want to. Yeah, I mean,

00:28:31.710 --> 00:28:34.190
it's inherent once you know, because you can

00:28:34.190 --> 00:28:37.069
reveal this at any time. Yeah, honestly. Once

00:28:37.069 --> 00:28:39.490
you know they're going to be some subtle costume

00:28:39.490 --> 00:28:42.950
changes. You have to be like, do we need to establish

00:28:42.950 --> 00:28:46.880
rules? She is the first one. Do they know she's

00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:49.299
going to be successful as a as a lifespan like

00:28:49.299 --> 00:28:52.039
so though the clothes that we're creating Are

00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:54.660
optimally like a perfect copy of a person and

00:28:54.660 --> 00:28:57.160
they'll have the normal human lifespan They can't

00:28:57.160 --> 00:28:59.099
then they have these moral moral issues like

00:28:59.099 --> 00:29:02.359
they can't live out longer. We can only transfer

00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:05.079
the consciousness They get like a 30 -year lifespan

00:29:05.079 --> 00:29:09.180
something like that. Okay. Okay, so what's happening

00:29:09.180 --> 00:29:15.490
is Oh Jennifer Connelly Yeah, has somebody who's

00:29:15.490 --> 00:29:19.390
kidnapped. Mm hmm. OK. And that's in order to

00:29:19.390 --> 00:29:21.930
get Jennifer Connelly into the story. All right.

00:29:22.009 --> 00:29:24.269
So I like a kidnapping. So you're thinking that

00:29:24.269 --> 00:29:27.849
Jennifer Connelly is has a kid. Yeah. So she's

00:29:27.849 --> 00:29:30.470
a clone, has no idea she's a clone. We have some

00:29:30.470 --> 00:29:33.390
young actor, actress play their child. The child

00:29:33.390 --> 00:29:36.130
is abducted. Turns out like it was a whole ruse

00:29:36.130 --> 00:29:39.029
anyway to test this out. And it was a science

00:29:39.029 --> 00:29:41.970
experiment to see how she would do. Oh, that's.

00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:44.259
That's devious. That's mean. What's our red herring?

00:29:44.380 --> 00:29:46.460
How do we how we throw the foil is the red herring

00:29:46.460 --> 00:29:49.420
like turns out the kid wasn't like her kid at

00:29:49.420 --> 00:29:52.039
all. That's always good. That's always good when

00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:55.759
there's a follow up attack on the bad guy. Yeah.

00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:58.420
Yeah. Somehow it's a robot baby. I don't robot

00:29:58.420 --> 00:30:01.359
child. Could you have Jennifer Connelly in on

00:30:01.359 --> 00:30:05.700
it the whole time as a big, long, great game

00:30:05.700 --> 00:30:08.720
twist like she knew she was a clone but didn't

00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:11.240
know sleeper agents live. Yeah. Because I took

00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:14.859
that pill. Oh, it didn't work on like we like

00:30:14.859 --> 00:30:17.819
do a moment. Yeah. And that's how she finds out

00:30:17.819 --> 00:30:20.180
the narrative. Yeah. Threshold. OK. You have

00:30:20.180 --> 00:30:23.380
this way that she is completely exposing the

00:30:23.380 --> 00:30:26.039
whole thing. What if the idea that means the

00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:28.180
planet's actually dying and maybe it's not. Yeah.

00:30:28.259 --> 00:30:30.299
You know what I mean? I like the idea. I know

00:30:30.299 --> 00:30:33.460
you said, like, you know, nor revenge kind of

00:30:33.460 --> 00:30:35.720
thriller. Like, I can also see this going like,

00:30:35.720 --> 00:30:38.579
oh, boy, gross. No, I can see this going like

00:30:38.579 --> 00:30:41.279
Kill Bill, Kill Bill style. Like we start with

00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:43.019
like a quick scene at the beginning and then

00:30:43.019 --> 00:30:46.059
like the rest of his her drive for revenge. Definitely

00:30:46.059 --> 00:30:50.160
like Star Trek nemesis. You have Picard and then

00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:54.319
young Picard played by Tom Hardy interacting

00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:56.339
with each other. Well, now I've said it. Yeah.

00:30:56.380 --> 00:30:59.089
Now you've ruined it. Can Tom Hardy be in it

00:30:59.089 --> 00:31:03.150
as the as the father of the child? Oh, very easily.

00:31:03.349 --> 00:31:06.410
I can see a Tom Hardy in this movie. Deranged

00:31:06.410 --> 00:31:10.009
or or is he playing straight man? Very nice,

00:31:10.170 --> 00:31:14.869
very nice, caring, lovable. He sings a song.

00:31:14.910 --> 00:31:17.789
He wears a hoodie everywhere. No, he has no hoodies.

00:31:17.809 --> 00:31:20.210
Yeah, it's full hair. He sings a special song

00:31:20.210 --> 00:31:23.049
to his daughter. OK, done. Just this wholesome

00:31:23.049 --> 00:31:25.740
father character. Yeah. Does he get killed? Is

00:31:25.740 --> 00:31:29.160
that the red herring? He gets killed. Turns out

00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:32.200
he took the daughter. He was in on it. I don't

00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:35.759
want Tom Hardy to be a double -crosser. He's

00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:39.079
perfect for it. He's perfect for it. Yeah. Does

00:31:39.079 --> 00:31:41.720
he get redeemed for this double -cross? No, it's

00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:44.960
genius. It's great. It's great. Because it can

00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:49.220
maybe, you know, maybe he's a clone and they

00:31:49.220 --> 00:31:52.490
use that. What if they tell him this is the only

00:31:52.490 --> 00:31:54.630
way that he'd get off the planet, like his daughter?

00:31:55.829 --> 00:31:58.230
What if they tell him that like, if they do this,

00:31:58.670 --> 00:32:00.549
they'll take the daughter. You believe them?

00:32:01.230 --> 00:32:03.930
Yeah, yeah. Make him slightly naive. I don't

00:32:03.930 --> 00:32:05.250
know if he's slightly naive, but he's trying

00:32:05.250 --> 00:32:07.390
to do what's best for his family, right? So it's

00:32:07.390 --> 00:32:10.950
not a willing double -crosser. He is a dumb double

00:32:10.950 --> 00:32:13.450
-crosser. I thought it would be good for the

00:32:13.450 --> 00:32:16.059
family. Most people kind of get coerced into

00:32:16.059 --> 00:32:18.099
double -crossing or they're actively well aware

00:32:18.099 --> 00:32:20.539
of what they're doing. So he dies. Yeah, he's

00:32:20.539 --> 00:32:23.160
definitely going to die. Is he killed by like

00:32:23.160 --> 00:32:26.400
eating shellfish, poison shellfish? Just he suicides

00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:30.000
himself. So Jeremy Connolly doesn't have to?

00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:33.900
No, that was a call back to Venom. OK, OK, no,

00:32:34.039 --> 00:32:37.539
no, he was missing that one. That one went, whoo!

00:32:37.619 --> 00:32:39.579
That's OK. I haven't seen the Venom movie. That's

00:32:39.579 --> 00:32:42.660
what this is for. No, that's OK. I don't feel

00:32:42.660 --> 00:32:46.029
bad about this. I feel bad about it. So Tom Hardy

00:32:46.029 --> 00:32:47.869
is the father figure Jennifer Connelly is married

00:32:47.869 --> 00:32:51.690
to this man and we They assume that the kid is

00:32:51.690 --> 00:32:54.700
biological and is this like Is this very much

00:32:54.700 --> 00:32:57.059
Truman show like they're always watching her

00:32:57.059 --> 00:32:59.700
or do they or did or was she a clone who escaped?

00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:03.240
Well, no, I think she she's an experiment like

00:33:03.240 --> 00:33:05.079
she's put out in the world and she is a clone

00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:07.759
of Linda Hamilton who doesn't look like her gotcha

00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:10.559
gotcha and we'll figure that out and some horrific

00:33:10.559 --> 00:33:13.200
I would like the idea of Linda. Yeah either like

00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:17.380
definitely like but unhinged Linda Hamilton I

00:33:17.380 --> 00:33:20.740
need it like to can Linda Hamilton have like

00:33:20.740 --> 00:33:24.960
a somebody she's taking her shit day out on.

00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:30.099
Oh, just like the bad intern. Just the bad intern

00:33:30.099 --> 00:33:32.799
just gets it. If you want that energy, that's

00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:35.059
hilarious because an intern has hope. Yeah, an

00:33:35.059 --> 00:33:37.220
intern does have hope. So it could be that. But

00:33:37.220 --> 00:33:40.680
I would like Linda Hamilton needs a literal and

00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:44.240
emotional punching bag. Yeah. And and somebody

00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:47.480
who like the top scientist brings the darkness

00:33:47.480 --> 00:33:50.710
like, you know, as well. But she needs to be

00:33:50.710 --> 00:33:54.690
able to rage. I like that. I like it. Who are

00:33:54.690 --> 00:33:59.869
you thinking? Who you got? Carrie Elwes. Oh,

00:34:00.289 --> 00:34:03.849
I love it. I love it. Like at present. At present

00:34:03.849 --> 00:34:06.529
times? Yeah. Old and older Carrie Elwes. Yeah.

00:34:07.289 --> 00:34:09.230
I can see it. She's Linda Hamilton prime -ish.

00:34:09.289 --> 00:34:11.530
Uh -huh. And she's just railing on him. Like

00:34:11.530 --> 00:34:14.989
the 80s, 90s. And he's playing this, what, like

00:34:14.989 --> 00:34:18.190
older scientist character. Who are you seeing

00:34:18.190 --> 00:34:20.949
him as? Yeah. Exactly. And she's like, he's the

00:34:20.949 --> 00:34:23.150
head of the program and like she's the she's

00:34:23.150 --> 00:34:25.289
the money. She's she's in charge of it all. Yeah,

00:34:25.489 --> 00:34:29.630
she's the she's the overseer. Is she like, is

00:34:29.630 --> 00:34:32.409
she a Gary Oldman character from The Fifth Element?

00:34:32.429 --> 00:34:34.969
Like she just she's a go court. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

00:34:35.230 --> 00:34:37.610
But I need more. I need more from her. I need

00:34:37.610 --> 00:34:43.309
her to take all the early Hollywood sexism, continuing

00:34:43.309 --> 00:34:46.849
Hollywood sexism, all of it and all that rage.

00:34:47.230 --> 00:34:49.329
Channel into this character throw just north

00:34:49.329 --> 00:34:51.849
of trouble just north of trouble. I like it I

00:34:51.849 --> 00:34:54.409
don't think the title has to have that much no

00:34:54.409 --> 00:34:57.269
to do with it because I think the idea is that

00:34:57.269 --> 00:34:59.309
there's always kind of trouble as this kind of

00:34:59.309 --> 00:35:05.989
mystery sci -fi Noir piece that may have a Usual

00:35:05.989 --> 00:35:09.730
suspect style reveal okay that it was plucky

00:35:09.730 --> 00:35:13.230
but naive Not so Jennifer Connelly the whole

00:35:13.230 --> 00:35:18.099
time not so You know, it had this has a lot of

00:35:18.099 --> 00:35:20.840
those ingredients of a fun movie. It does. All

00:35:20.840 --> 00:35:24.139
right. Who do you want to direct this fun sci

00:35:24.139 --> 00:35:29.420
fi dark clone masterpiece? We've talked about

00:35:29.420 --> 00:35:33.480
a lot of movies we have that really strike close

00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:37.159
to this. We have we have. What if Kubrick does

00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:41.860
it? Kubrick. Oh, the perfectionist. OK, we didn't

00:35:41.860 --> 00:35:44.000
talk about how much and how long it would take.

00:35:44.219 --> 00:35:46.659
Yeah, I mean, unlimited budget for sure. Let's

00:35:46.659 --> 00:35:50.019
do it. Kubrick's definitely there. He is his

00:35:50.019 --> 00:35:53.960
is going to be the one year after 2001 Space

00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:59.940
Odyssey. Possibly. Andrew Nickel, he directed

00:35:59.940 --> 00:36:03.300
Gattaca, The Truman Show. He wrote and direct

00:36:03.300 --> 00:36:06.500
those. OK, that could be a good writer. I think

00:36:06.500 --> 00:36:11.730
Alex Garland. Oh. I think he has definitely made

00:36:11.730 --> 00:36:13.969
a name for himself inside the sci -fi realm.

00:36:14.789 --> 00:36:17.250
I know I tend to go against hype, but he's kind

00:36:17.250 --> 00:36:21.250
of been everywhere since. Gorsh. Yeah. Yes, I'm

00:36:21.250 --> 00:36:24.289
in. He would definitely find the right tone of

00:36:24.289 --> 00:36:25.849
sci -fi for this. Ex Machina is one of my favorite.

00:36:25.849 --> 00:36:29.750
Ex Machina. He was tied in with the 28 years

00:36:29.750 --> 00:36:32.449
later. Annihilation was awesome. Civil War, we

00:36:32.449 --> 00:36:35.789
just recently, we just talked about this. I think

00:36:35.789 --> 00:36:37.949
he was also one of the main reasons the movie

00:36:37.949 --> 00:36:40.030
Dread got made. I'm physically aroused by this

00:36:40.030 --> 00:36:43.130
idea. This is awesome. Alex Garland is so great.

00:36:44.050 --> 00:36:46.849
He's so great. He is very talented. Unfortunately,

00:36:46.909 --> 00:36:48.230
I think he's taking a little of the backseat

00:36:48.230 --> 00:36:50.130
for directing right now and focusing on writing.

00:36:50.289 --> 00:36:52.070
But you know what? There's always time to come

00:36:52.070 --> 00:36:54.420
back for the chair. I feel like this could be

00:36:54.420 --> 00:36:56.539
a smaller feeling movie. Yeah, this definitely

00:36:56.539 --> 00:36:59.500
can play a little smaller. I know we were thinking

00:36:59.500 --> 00:37:01.820
sci -fi opera, but it doesn't have to be that

00:37:01.820 --> 00:37:05.159
large to still fulfill the opera. Right. Because

00:37:05.159 --> 00:37:09.500
opera is grandiose in the sense of just grandiose.

00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:13.500
So I think that we can fit that niche because

00:37:13.500 --> 00:37:16.170
like in... In theory, everybody's kind of tied

00:37:16.170 --> 00:37:17.969
to each other. This is what makes Star Wars interesting.

00:37:18.349 --> 00:37:21.150
Right. Right. It was like, it was this galaxy

00:37:21.150 --> 00:37:23.329
universe expanding thing. But like everybody

00:37:23.329 --> 00:37:24.989
kind of had a story that connected with another

00:37:24.989 --> 00:37:27.929
story. And that's what made it this opera. That's

00:37:27.929 --> 00:37:30.650
a really great point. So the idea is, I think,

00:37:30.849 --> 00:37:32.889
more like a ball of yarn. You kind of need to

00:37:32.889 --> 00:37:35.869
have like. little pieces that connect other characters

00:37:35.869 --> 00:37:37.909
to other things. Like, if the audience hears

00:37:37.909 --> 00:37:40.469
this information, cool, we know of this information.

00:37:40.769 --> 00:37:42.530
But then to know that it also relates to this

00:37:42.530 --> 00:37:44.389
other character doing something else entirely

00:37:44.389 --> 00:37:48.389
is what makes it an opera, I would argue. Yeah,

00:37:48.389 --> 00:37:52.030
I think that's awesome. I like the idea of the

00:37:52.030 --> 00:37:56.090
smaller stuff and movies that have a little aha.

00:37:57.210 --> 00:37:59.170
So if we have the opportunity... Did you ever

00:37:59.170 --> 00:38:06.090
see the movie Hide or Hidden? I have not. It's

00:38:06.090 --> 00:38:11.809
a really, really good. It's a good sci -fi movie,

00:38:11.809 --> 00:38:14.769
but it's got a hell of a twist. OK, we're going

00:38:14.769 --> 00:38:17.909
to run it here. Spoiler alerts. I you know, I

00:38:17.909 --> 00:38:21.110
wouldn't want to ruin it for you because I honestly

00:38:21.110 --> 00:38:24.969
think. I don't know, I mean, just saying that

00:38:24.969 --> 00:38:27.309
there's some kind of twist gets people excited

00:38:27.309 --> 00:38:29.880
about movies. It is nice knowing that something

00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:33.239
is going to be different. This is why I say this.

00:38:33.500 --> 00:38:37.059
I didn't know there was a twist. Oh, yeah. Well,

00:38:37.059 --> 00:38:39.340
you watched it in the twist happen and you didn't

00:38:39.340 --> 00:38:45.300
realize. Yeah, because. Yeah, that's all I got

00:38:45.300 --> 00:38:49.599
to say about that. It was a one copy at the video

00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:53.360
store and back when we had those. Yeah. And the

00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:59.260
cover was really cool. And. Fear will find you

00:38:59.260 --> 00:39:02.099
and I think it was a major movie Andrea rise

00:39:02.099 --> 00:39:06.400
burrow actually also in it She is from oblivion

00:39:06.400 --> 00:39:10.219
Tom Cruise. Okay, effective team. Okay, and also

00:39:10.219 --> 00:39:17.119
Mandy but In the Duffer Brothers Oh Directed

00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:21.079
it. Okay and wrote it. Oh, but anyway, it's it

00:39:21.079 --> 00:39:23.199
just had a cool concept It's a family trying

00:39:23.199 --> 00:39:28.559
to live, you know underground. Okay There's a

00:39:28.559 --> 00:39:31.380
fear outside. There's something, but you don't

00:39:31.380 --> 00:39:33.239
know what it is. You know what I mean? Like you

00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:37.119
don't know what the menace is. Like they're underground,

00:39:37.460 --> 00:39:39.280
they're hoarding, and they need to be quiet.

00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:46.820
And of course they're precipitated outward, and

00:39:46.820 --> 00:39:49.340
hence the twist. And it's fucking awesome, this

00:39:49.340 --> 00:39:52.469
movie. Yeah, and it's it's great on its own.

00:39:52.590 --> 00:39:55.010
Let's go on the recommendation list. Oh, yeah.

00:39:55.210 --> 00:39:58.070
Yeah. But the director of that or the composer,

00:39:58.090 --> 00:40:00.909
rather, I was talking about music also did Cabin

00:40:00.909 --> 00:40:06.730
in the Woods. Did the descent insomnia work with

00:40:06.730 --> 00:40:09.610
Christopher Nolan. What do you think about David

00:40:09.610 --> 00:40:11.969
Julian is his name. David Julian sounds like

00:40:11.969 --> 00:40:14.090
the right kind of man for this job. Yeah, because

00:40:14.090 --> 00:40:17.070
it doesn't have to be huge. Yeah, but like doesn't

00:40:17.070 --> 00:40:18.769
have to be sweeping, but it definitely has to

00:40:18.769 --> 00:40:22.070
have the descent. No, I don't think I have seen

00:40:22.070 --> 00:40:25.429
the descent. That's a movie that I am very happy

00:40:25.429 --> 00:40:29.650
to say I saw in a theater and It was way better

00:40:29.650 --> 00:40:33.849
because of it. Okay, it's about the Divers yes,

00:40:33.849 --> 00:40:36.809
I've heard of it and I'm like, yeah I've never

00:40:36.809 --> 00:40:40.150
had my buttocks clenched. Yeah so hard in my

00:40:40.150 --> 00:40:42.630
life and claustrophobia is a real thing It not

00:40:42.630 --> 00:40:46.690
just that and it's beginning to end just tension

00:40:46.690 --> 00:40:50.329
tension It's so, and the sequel is great too.

00:40:50.730 --> 00:40:53.250
So are you saying that this happy -go -lucky

00:40:53.250 --> 00:40:57.030
hopefulness is gonna have just, we're gonna be

00:40:57.030 --> 00:41:00.289
like barely surviving, crawling out with like

00:41:00.289 --> 00:41:03.210
sunshine at the end? I think at the end of The

00:41:03.210 --> 00:41:07.559
Descent there's like one... Positive sting. Yeah.

00:41:07.579 --> 00:41:11.900
Ding. He did the prestige. OK. I'm already down.

00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:13.079
You don't have to keep asking. So like Cabin

00:41:13.079 --> 00:41:16.079
in the Woods had, I think, some jauntiness to

00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:19.639
it. It had to. It had to have some fun. You think

00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:21.519
you could do it again. Which is, yeah. Which

00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:24.139
is, well, I think somebody, like, he clearly

00:41:24.139 --> 00:41:26.860
has the chops to do, you know, clearly this,

00:41:26.860 --> 00:41:30.539
this type of feel. But looking at some of what

00:41:30.539 --> 00:41:37.139
he's done, Bachelor games. OK. Rocket Boys, a

00:41:37.139 --> 00:41:38.739
short. Yeah, you don't have to convince me anymore.

00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:40.559
You already got me. I think that's a fun one.

00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:42.380
All right. That sounds like a great composer.

00:41:43.099 --> 00:41:45.579
Do we get a director? We've decided. Yeah, we

00:41:45.579 --> 00:41:47.440
did. Alex Garland is writing a director. Sorry,

00:41:47.500 --> 00:41:49.480
I was like, my brain, my brain's. And are you

00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:53.659
feeling, when you're looking at this, do you

00:41:53.659 --> 00:41:56.599
see it as more grounded? Do you see it in a place

00:41:56.599 --> 00:41:59.960
where. Like a Portland or do you see it in a

00:41:59.960 --> 00:42:01.579
city? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, it definitely

00:42:01.579 --> 00:42:05.519
has. It has like an urban futurism. Could we

00:42:05.519 --> 00:42:08.440
say Francisco it we could, you know, because

00:42:08.440 --> 00:42:11.920
she could still get lost in a city. It's tech

00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:15.159
forward. You have tons of opportunity for like

00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:17.800
we can, you know, hijinks that they can just

00:42:17.800 --> 00:42:20.340
be on the horizon like sci fi. I mean, there's

00:42:20.340 --> 00:42:22.280
no reason we couldn't like go to that. OK, that's

00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:25.550
where it would be. Yeah. If stuff's. Yeah, that'd

00:42:25.550 --> 00:42:28.190
be popping off. Yeah, we're going up into space

00:42:28.190 --> 00:42:31.010
recreationally. Yeah, I can see that he happened

00:42:31.010 --> 00:42:34.349
in there. Plus, I was just there. And it's going

00:42:34.349 --> 00:42:36.469
to cost whoever making this movie a little bit.

00:42:36.530 --> 00:42:38.090
But, you know, that's why we're making this movie.

00:42:38.090 --> 00:42:42.210
Well, industrial or Skywalker Ranch is out there.

00:42:42.210 --> 00:42:44.489
OK, you're thinking anytime we would drive out

00:42:44.489 --> 00:42:47.710
to see Justice Sister, it's like one of the highway

00:42:47.710 --> 00:42:50.789
signs, one of the big green exit right over here.

00:42:50.889 --> 00:42:53.949
Arrow Skywalker. Go ask Mr. Lucas to film there

00:42:53.949 --> 00:42:57.170
like. Fuck it. Anytime. I'm like, how fucking

00:42:57.170 --> 00:42:59.969
cool is this? It's right there. There it was.

00:43:00.449 --> 00:43:03.409
Did you see the movie about the kids in a loosely

00:43:03.409 --> 00:43:06.530
based on a true story about the kids who broke

00:43:06.530 --> 00:43:09.449
into Skywalker? Yeah, I was super fans. Super

00:43:09.449 --> 00:43:11.530
fan. Yeah. Did you ever see that? Yes. It's fun.

00:43:11.670 --> 00:43:14.250
It's a good one. It's good. Fun time. I hope

00:43:14.250 --> 00:43:16.650
all of it's true. It would be fun if it was.

00:43:16.789 --> 00:43:19.650
There's no way all of it's true, but. I want

00:43:19.650 --> 00:43:21.329
to quote it, but I can't remember all the quotes.

00:43:21.469 --> 00:43:23.710
I think the only one I remember is Han Solo sucks.

00:43:23.809 --> 00:43:25.250
And then they get in a fight with. Oh, yeah.

00:43:26.070 --> 00:43:29.190
Seth Rogan. He's like, I saw episode one earlier

00:43:29.190 --> 00:43:31.369
and I got a tattoo of the coolest character in

00:43:31.369 --> 00:43:34.289
his whole backs. George Irving's that early.

00:43:34.429 --> 00:43:39.090
Seth Rogan. Shatner shows up in that. Do we have

00:43:39.090 --> 00:43:41.909
a because you did this so spectacularly last

00:43:41.909 --> 00:43:44.760
time or our first episode, forgive me. or you

00:43:44.760 --> 00:43:46.860
put Burt Reynolds in as stripper or something

00:43:46.860 --> 00:43:52.980
like that. Do we have a fun, even if it's like

00:43:52.980 --> 00:43:56.019
Charlton Heston as the king of like cheesy sci

00:43:56.019 --> 00:44:00.460
-fi, is it a character or a character actor?

00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:04.849
Do you put a Clint Howard in this? Okay. Do you

00:44:04.849 --> 00:44:08.530
need, um, you know, just, uh, can, can we put

00:44:08.530 --> 00:44:10.610
Jean du Hargine in this, the French guy from

00:44:10.610 --> 00:44:13.230
the artist as like a junk dealer or something?

00:44:13.269 --> 00:44:15.849
We could. As like a scraggly character, please.

00:44:16.329 --> 00:44:19.170
Yeah. Your comic relief character. Yeah, in a

00:44:19.170 --> 00:44:22.289
way. Some way. Suave, like it, you know. Charismatic.

00:44:22.289 --> 00:44:23.829
I'm a clone. Are you sure you don't want to,

00:44:23.989 --> 00:44:26.010
like, curse himself through this? What about

00:44:26.010 --> 00:44:30.730
Billy Zane's role? Oh, yes. I love that idea.

00:44:30.829 --> 00:44:33.110
As you're, like, your drug dealer? Yeah. That'd

00:44:33.110 --> 00:44:35.840
be great. Just a street urchin drug dealer. That

00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:38.639
would be amazing. In desperate times, call for

00:44:38.639 --> 00:44:40.739
desperate measures. I'm a clone, whatever. Yep.

00:44:41.039 --> 00:44:42.460
Whatever. Cool with it. You know, they clone

00:44:42.460 --> 00:44:45.300
perfection. The only... That's definitely a quote.

00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:48.739
That's definitely a quote for the movie. If that's

00:44:48.739 --> 00:44:49.880
not in the movie, I'm not watching this movie.

00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:51.539
Is that the tagline? It might have to be our

00:44:51.539 --> 00:44:54.039
tagline. All right. Just north of trouble, they

00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:57.460
only clone perfection. And here's the idea. That

00:44:57.460 --> 00:45:01.639
works as a tag because... In this world, you

00:45:01.639 --> 00:45:04.639
go into the movie thinking cloning's real. And

00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:06.780
you're wondering, like, what the fuck are they

00:45:06.780 --> 00:45:08.659
talking about? And Zane could have that line.

00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:10.960
Like, three quarters of the way through it. And

00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:13.139
it's just him being cocky, having nothing to

00:45:13.139 --> 00:45:16.320
do with shit. There's your red herring. And then

00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:20.380
you realize Linda Hamilton would only, you know,

00:45:20.440 --> 00:45:24.179
once they figured it out, clone perfection. How

00:45:24.179 --> 00:45:26.960
does Jennifer Connelly run into our Billy Zane

00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:29.460
character? Does it turn out that Tom Hardy was

00:45:29.460 --> 00:45:32.119
secretly doing drugs? He's still a wholesome

00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:34.579
dad, but this isn't one vice. Do you want him,

00:45:35.019 --> 00:45:37.179
Billy Zane, as a scamp? Yeah, I kind of love

00:45:37.179 --> 00:45:40.900
this idea that Tom Hardy... What if they are...

00:45:40.900 --> 00:45:42.539
There's this illicit drug market. Okay, let's

00:45:42.539 --> 00:45:45.119
give Tom Hardy, I have a wild idea. Let's give

00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:48.059
him a little bit of fun in that they are in an

00:45:48.059 --> 00:45:50.099
underground fighting thing. Oh, he's in an underground

00:45:50.099 --> 00:45:53.099
fight? So he's really tough. Okay. And like he's

00:45:53.099 --> 00:45:57.239
doing steroids or something. Maybe Zane runs

00:45:57.239 --> 00:45:59.480
this thing. Oh, he's like a bookie. Yeah, we

00:45:59.480 --> 00:46:02.400
give it some kind of like whatever this world's

00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:05.469
fight thing is. And he does that. and it's fun

00:46:05.469 --> 00:46:07.849
because he's a great dad and he's super loving

00:46:07.849 --> 00:46:10.050
and you're like oh there he is we just call it

00:46:10.050 --> 00:46:11.969
juice fights and it's where these guys get just

00:46:11.969 --> 00:46:14.110
like they just stare at each other like demolition

00:46:14.110 --> 00:46:16.789
man style no they put helmets on and they're

00:46:16.789 --> 00:46:19.030
like i'm fighting you now no i think more uh

00:46:19.030 --> 00:46:21.230
when the guy's nose starts bleeding like because

00:46:21.230 --> 00:46:23.250
we're we're waiting for the sci -fi thing so

00:46:23.250 --> 00:46:24.949
it'd be cool if like they have the synthetic

00:46:25.050 --> 00:46:28.150
Hill or something's, you know, steroid adjacent

00:46:28.150 --> 00:46:30.650
where like you black out, but like your animalistic

00:46:30.650 --> 00:46:33.070
part of the brain kicks in. Oh, that's cool.

00:46:33.269 --> 00:46:35.030
And so like he doesn't know what he's actually

00:46:35.030 --> 00:46:37.469
doing, but like he this is how he's sustaining,

00:46:37.469 --> 00:46:39.550
you know, sustaining the family or whatnot. And

00:46:39.550 --> 00:46:42.369
so like he like this Billy Zane character is

00:46:42.369 --> 00:46:44.530
still his bookie, but also like this drug deal.

00:46:44.610 --> 00:46:46.650
I like this idea of him being a drug dealer and

00:46:46.650 --> 00:46:49.550
like synthetic love futuristic drugs. That's

00:46:49.550 --> 00:46:52.150
super fun. Yeah, I think because Tom Hardy is

00:46:52.150 --> 00:46:56.690
still sympathetic. But he gets to rage. Because

00:46:56.690 --> 00:46:59.050
I think people would not like it. What if, like,

00:46:59.090 --> 00:47:01.630
write it, the story of, like, is them trying

00:47:01.630 --> 00:47:03.369
to get enough as a family to get off planet,

00:47:03.449 --> 00:47:07.409
and every time they get so close, the price increases

00:47:07.409 --> 00:47:10.110
again. Yeah, and that's great, because it's,

00:47:10.110 --> 00:47:13.889
Jennifer Connelly could rage at her mom when

00:47:13.889 --> 00:47:15.989
she meets, has this conversation saying, like,

00:47:16.090 --> 00:47:21.110
you kept us in poverty. Like, he died doing this

00:47:21.110 --> 00:47:23.909
shit. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Zane's like,

00:47:24.150 --> 00:47:31.150
I know. And, and you, but she was like, it's

00:47:31.150 --> 00:47:34.130
necessary. I was, it was necessary for you to

00:47:34.130 --> 00:47:36.110
come to your full potential. Like as the real

00:47:36.110 --> 00:47:38.329
clone, you're like, what the fuck? Yeah, this

00:47:38.329 --> 00:47:39.949
is going to be. What do you mean the real clone?

00:47:40.010 --> 00:47:42.130
What do you mean? Clones aren't real. You're

00:47:42.130 --> 00:47:44.809
the only one. She peels her face off the wall.

00:47:45.880 --> 00:47:48.539
I don't know why we get a Cronenberg. I feel

00:47:48.539 --> 00:47:50.699
if we don't get a Cronenberg face. I want a body

00:47:50.699 --> 00:47:53.400
horror thing and I want her to have some body

00:47:53.400 --> 00:47:56.539
or we need a surprise body. Yeah. What's your

00:47:56.539 --> 00:47:58.880
favorite? Please put a surprise body. You know,

00:47:58.920 --> 00:48:02.019
it's a underrated one. Give it to me in the RoboCop

00:48:02.019 --> 00:48:06.440
remake. The one really there's body horror in

00:48:06.440 --> 00:48:10.380
that one. Yeah. When in its genius, because Gary

00:48:10.380 --> 00:48:13.630
Oldman, have you seen it? I have not. I I'm sorry,

00:48:13.750 --> 00:48:16.590
I'm a true blue stick to the OG. Oh, me too.

00:48:16.849 --> 00:48:19.869
It's actually Paul Verhoeven. It's a fun, it's

00:48:19.869 --> 00:48:23.170
a fun concept. Mount Rushmore. And, and it's,

00:48:23.170 --> 00:48:26.969
it pales in comparison by the reveal that he

00:48:26.969 --> 00:48:29.449
has to himself. So Gary Oldman is standing in

00:48:29.449 --> 00:48:31.409
front of him and he's like all, you know, in

00:48:31.409 --> 00:48:34.469
his, oh, in the original, he's just kind of in

00:48:34.469 --> 00:48:37.989
a cradle, right? So he's in this thing that you

00:48:37.989 --> 00:48:39.789
think is a cradle and he's pressing the doctor

00:48:39.789 --> 00:48:43.150
on what is left of him. And the thing starts

00:48:43.150 --> 00:48:47.170
to slowly pull apart all the robot stuff. And

00:48:47.170 --> 00:48:50.949
there's like a half a lung. Oh, OK. So like they

00:48:50.949 --> 00:48:53.750
actually give it to you. And you just see him

00:48:53.750 --> 00:48:56.429
sitting there is like two percent of a person.

00:48:56.449 --> 00:49:00.570
And it's gnarly. OK, OK. Super powerful. But

00:49:00.570 --> 00:49:02.710
just that's because he's like, I need to know.

00:49:02.710 --> 00:49:05.230
And he's like, you do not want to know what's

00:49:05.230 --> 00:49:06.789
left of you. Definitely see there being some

00:49:06.789 --> 00:49:09.570
body or slowly pull apart. So is the whole thing

00:49:09.570 --> 00:49:13.659
like so. Linda Hamilton, is it like we don't

00:49:13.659 --> 00:49:15.880
show her in a full like daylight or anything?

00:49:16.059 --> 00:49:18.079
We do it like Brando style, like she's in shadows

00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:21.699
and like turns out she's very disfigured and

00:49:21.699 --> 00:49:24.639
whatnot. And we need her to be able to rage at

00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:28.789
Carrie. Yeah. Yeah. I love the idea of just poor,

00:49:29.090 --> 00:49:33.210
sad carry always insane. Just like anybody their

00:49:33.210 --> 00:49:35.670
bodies, their friends for sure. Oh, yeah, they've

00:49:35.670 --> 00:49:37.730
got back story. Yeah, because this is where he's

00:49:37.730 --> 00:49:39.710
getting the drugs from. Yeah, this is where he's

00:49:39.710 --> 00:49:42.070
getting the carry always got abducted, you know,

00:49:42.829 --> 00:49:45.820
and conscripted to work for her. He was indebted.

00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:47.800
What do you mean? That's great. He was caught

00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:50.119
making illicit drugs and she's like, yo, come

00:49:50.119 --> 00:49:52.920
make non illicit drugs for my company. And then

00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:55.719
the company skyrocketed in popularity. And now

00:49:55.719 --> 00:49:58.539
here he is, you know, on the board and she's

00:49:58.539 --> 00:50:01.059
still the boss. Yeah. But like, you know, do

00:50:01.059 --> 00:50:03.320
we need elements of the story that like, you

00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:05.940
know, and I think what could be more tragic is

00:50:05.940 --> 00:50:10.000
like more like clone on clone crime, things that

00:50:10.000 --> 00:50:12.239
are done. And they're just like, you fucking

00:50:12.239 --> 00:50:15.570
that sucks so bad. Because you're not a clone.

00:50:15.670 --> 00:50:17.809
Yeah, we were literally. Everybody's been convinced

00:50:17.809 --> 00:50:22.150
that they're all this medication that makes you

00:50:22.150 --> 00:50:25.070
feel and act a certain way. Yeah. So like Tom

00:50:25.070 --> 00:50:27.389
Hardy is just like he doesn't think he's a real

00:50:27.389 --> 00:50:29.610
person. So like he's like, so what if I die?

00:50:29.750 --> 00:50:31.510
They'll just build another one, another husband.

00:50:31.630 --> 00:50:33.489
Oh, there's a lot of nihilism that's going to

00:50:33.489 --> 00:50:37.690
happen in this. Yeah. But the idea that you could

00:50:37.690 --> 00:50:42.690
have this long con of setting up a world of clones.

00:50:42.949 --> 00:50:48.510
Yeah. simply by having, I don't know, nobody

00:50:48.510 --> 00:50:50.289
could be in on it but her. She's the only one.

00:50:50.289 --> 00:50:52.989
She could be all computer, and even the doctors

00:50:52.989 --> 00:50:56.610
delivering don't know. They're just told. There's

00:50:56.610 --> 00:50:58.269
a lot of authoritarianism going on. You know

00:50:58.269 --> 00:51:01.389
what I mean? We are hitting a lot of themes on

00:51:01.389 --> 00:51:03.969
this movie. This movie's gonna have layers to

00:51:03.969 --> 00:51:07.349
it. Then again, births are still happening naturally,

00:51:07.690 --> 00:51:11.730
so they have to be clones and utero. Like they

00:51:11.730 --> 00:51:14.329
are identified as such because that's what's

00:51:14.329 --> 00:51:17.070
happening. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. I just, that's

00:51:17.070 --> 00:51:21.889
a loophole that I just thought of. And you know,

00:51:21.949 --> 00:51:24.530
that's, that's a little bit of artistic license,

00:51:24.929 --> 00:51:27.329
but hey, for the story we're willing to have

00:51:27.329 --> 00:51:29.969
a little fun. The Island is a perfect parallel

00:51:29.969 --> 00:51:33.530
to this in a way because there's that mystery

00:51:33.530 --> 00:51:36.750
of it. You know, there's a breakaway. And then

00:51:36.750 --> 00:51:40.610
you have the elitism of Elysium. Yeah. You know,

00:51:40.690 --> 00:51:44.150
in the confrontation between Jennifer Connelly

00:51:44.150 --> 00:51:48.030
and Linda Hamilton. And again, about like all

00:51:48.030 --> 00:51:50.670
of my struggles. Yeah. Come come back to this

00:51:50.670 --> 00:51:53.929
one thing. Turns out nothing and I'm nothing.

00:51:55.070 --> 00:51:59.050
Does Jennifer Connelly die at the end and the

00:51:59.050 --> 00:52:01.170
kid lives? I think we leave it very ambiguous.

00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:04.139
I think we leave it to the imagination. Wait,

00:52:04.139 --> 00:52:05.780
like they just absorb into a shadow together?

00:52:05.860 --> 00:52:07.239
Oh, I don't know. Is that what's going to happen?

00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:09.880
Oh, do they have to reabsorb? They reabsorb.

00:52:09.940 --> 00:52:12.199
And then you wonder, like, which person came

00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:16.079
back. Oh, we end it with the child. And there's

00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:19.119
just a mannerism. The child. Mommy? Yeah. And

00:52:19.119 --> 00:52:20.900
then, like, whoever turns around, we just don't

00:52:20.900 --> 00:52:24.280
show. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Roll credits. That's

00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:27.360
terrible. No, it's great. Oh my gosh. Your imagination

00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:29.369
is so much. Ending on a cliffhanger? It's not

00:52:29.369 --> 00:52:31.190
a cliffhanger. It's a sequel bait. What are you

00:52:31.190 --> 00:52:34.909
talking about? This sounds like the perfect ending.

00:52:35.929 --> 00:52:38.190
The whole premise is nobody knows if they're

00:52:38.190 --> 00:52:41.690
a clone or not. And then we end on the clone

00:52:41.690 --> 00:52:45.150
and the real person becoming one essentially.

00:52:45.210 --> 00:52:48.300
And we don't know which one's the clone. Yeah,

00:52:48.300 --> 00:52:50.539
this is the end of Star Trek, the motion picture.

00:52:50.559 --> 00:52:53.960
So they merge with feature. This is fucking cool.

00:52:53.960 --> 00:52:56.119
Yeah, this is we're going to have some fun. The

00:52:56.119 --> 00:52:58.960
substance, right? I know. No, I have not. I've

00:52:58.960 --> 00:53:00.980
seen the bits and pieces of like the internet

00:53:00.980 --> 00:53:03.420
was all over and it's fucking great. Yeah, fucking

00:53:03.420 --> 00:53:05.480
great. I could see some body. And just when you're

00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:07.579
like, oh, that's as far as they're going to go.

00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:09.360
And then they're like, what have we went further?

00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:12.800
No. And I'll go to 11 into absurdist territory.

00:53:12.800 --> 00:53:14.619
Yeah. And which is why a lot of people don't

00:53:14.619 --> 00:53:18.949
like it. That's OK. But. I guess I'd rather you

00:53:18.949 --> 00:53:21.710
go for it. Yeah, go for broke. You know, and

00:53:21.710 --> 00:53:24.789
it doesn't like ruin it if the last scene or

00:53:24.789 --> 00:53:29.030
the last minute blows it, in my opinion. I don't

00:53:29.030 --> 00:53:30.449
really fault a whole movie for that. I don't

00:53:30.449 --> 00:53:32.599
know if it... I mean... It's got an extreme.

00:53:32.760 --> 00:53:35.079
It's going to be a decisive event. Yeah, people

00:53:35.079 --> 00:53:37.980
are going to be mad no matter what. But I mean,

00:53:38.039 --> 00:53:40.460
I don't know about landing on it. There's no

00:53:40.460 --> 00:53:43.179
answers. Like you can't ask for answers from

00:53:43.179 --> 00:53:44.860
this movie because the movie can only pose questions,

00:53:44.900 --> 00:53:47.059
I feel like, unfortunately. Yeah, for sure. Because

00:53:47.059 --> 00:53:49.639
like how are we going to solve the answer of

00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:52.280
I don't know, this or this or that like clones

00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:55.239
of the desperation of the planet? Like the movies

00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:57.699
we can't provide those answers. I'd love to see

00:53:57.699 --> 00:54:01.630
the idea explored more of of this. mind control

00:54:01.630 --> 00:54:03.989
that isn't even mind control. It's like systems.

00:54:04.010 --> 00:54:07.889
It's the system that's manipulated and people

00:54:07.889 --> 00:54:11.329
are just comfortable using it. And I'm told that

00:54:11.329 --> 00:54:14.750
I'm a clone. And how clever I had to take this

00:54:14.750 --> 00:54:18.630
pill. Everybody's a clone. And that's why I'm

00:54:18.630 --> 00:54:21.550
regulated. And I can only do these things. And

00:54:21.550 --> 00:54:24.929
we have underground clone fights. Yeah. And we

00:54:24.929 --> 00:54:27.130
have clone parts selling. And it's like, you

00:54:27.130 --> 00:54:29.079
did not have to have You didn't have to do any

00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:31.000
of this. Yeah, this sounds your organs aren't

00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:33.400
any different. This sounds definitely don't have

00:54:33.400 --> 00:54:36.320
a shelf life. Yeah, we're going to get a body.

00:54:36.780 --> 00:54:39.340
This is definitely a hard R rated, right? Hard

00:54:39.340 --> 00:54:42.159
R. We can't make this a PG -13 movie. I don't

00:54:42.159 --> 00:54:45.099
think we could do it. There's going to be a really

00:54:45.099 --> 00:54:48.119
valid question. I know they're going to try.

00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:49.539
The question is, should it be? I don't think

00:54:49.539 --> 00:54:53.039
so. Do you? I think any studio, a major studio

00:54:53.039 --> 00:54:55.119
would push for it to be PG -13. I think everybody

00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:58.690
would push for a PG -13 series. Yeah. I'm gonna

00:54:58.690 --> 00:55:02.889
as I saw one of the people who just created in

00:55:02.889 --> 00:55:05.670
the last hour or so I Feel like we need blood

00:55:05.670 --> 00:55:08.429
and go I would love to see that and again culminating

00:55:08.429 --> 00:55:10.230
in some of that body horror that you talked about

00:55:10.230 --> 00:55:12.090
Yeah, that's a great idea. We can definitely

00:55:12.090 --> 00:55:15.670
sneak somebody early and that sacrifice and then

00:55:15.670 --> 00:55:18.630
you do not know who came back out Yeah, yeah,

00:55:18.630 --> 00:55:21.110
I think that that needs to be happening I think

00:55:21.110 --> 00:55:22.789
we need even start like you say with the body

00:55:22.789 --> 00:55:27.840
horror like I was sacrifice himself Like, he

00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:30.679
prevents the thing. Zane lives, he always dies.

00:55:30.699 --> 00:55:33.360
For sure. So a little injustice within the movie.

00:55:33.639 --> 00:55:38.760
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I dig this. I really, I think

00:55:38.760 --> 00:55:42.559
this is super fun. And hopefully our excess of

00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:45.500
plot. Yeah. Carmically makes it. Yeah, hopefully

00:55:45.500 --> 00:55:48.780
we've solved anything. There's no space avalanche

00:55:48.780 --> 00:55:51.559
on this. It just gets absorbed into ice. Space

00:55:51.559 --> 00:55:53.400
avalanche? What would that look like? There's

00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:55.460
an avalanche on the ship. It's vented out into

00:55:55.460 --> 00:55:58.889
space. That's a large ship that you have an avalanche

00:55:58.889 --> 00:56:03.380
on a ship. What would you need that much snow

00:56:03.380 --> 00:56:07.199
for? Well, if they were commercial salmon fishing.

00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:10.019
Oh, OK. OK. Those big base. No, they were coming

00:56:10.019 --> 00:56:11.960
back from the from the rain. Casually, you hide

00:56:11.960 --> 00:56:14.280
a body in there and you're like, that's not fair.

00:56:14.280 --> 00:56:16.900
No, no. Here's what happened is they were bringing

00:56:16.900 --> 00:56:19.159
back ice chunks from the belt, you know, the

00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:21.699
melt. I love it. Hell, yeah. It's a rare thing.

00:56:21.699 --> 00:56:24.059
It's a tsunami. People distill that water and

00:56:24.059 --> 00:56:26.780
they make a joke. They make like a drug out of

00:56:26.780 --> 00:56:31.280
it. Yeah, it's belt ice, man. It's the shit.

00:56:31.420 --> 00:56:35.000
I like it as a joke. We've made like pretty solid

00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:37.179
elevator pitches for like two to three other

00:56:37.179 --> 00:56:39.320
movies I would go see. Yeah, this is a good point.

00:56:39.659 --> 00:56:41.360
How much time we got left here? Are we killing

00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:44.340
it? We did it with maybe under nine minutes to

00:56:44.340 --> 00:56:46.780
spare. Oh, all right. And for those keeping track

00:56:46.780 --> 00:56:48.480
at home, we didn't stop the timer when we took

00:56:48.480 --> 00:56:50.639
our pause. So you'll just have to accept the

00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:53.489
gospel. And hopefully you didn't notice any of

00:56:53.489 --> 00:56:55.949
that. And you just really love all the stuff

00:56:55.949 --> 00:56:58.710
that we're doing and get at us. Yeah. If you

00:56:58.710 --> 00:57:01.210
want to make a movie, shout us out. We will make

00:57:01.210 --> 00:57:03.349
a movie. I don't know where. I don't know why,

00:57:03.349 --> 00:57:05.610
but I want to make a movie. Did we say it could

00:57:05.610 --> 00:57:11.030
be filmed on an iPhone? Probably. I mean, have

00:57:11.030 --> 00:57:13.550
people done it before? Sure. Why not? We live

00:57:13.550 --> 00:57:15.170
in the future. It's getting better every day.

00:57:15.269 --> 00:57:17.630
They sure have. Well, Logan, I think we did it.

00:57:17.690 --> 00:57:20.860
I think we did. We made a movie. Should Hollywood

00:57:20.860 --> 00:57:25.500
get at us? I think so. Reach out. They can. Links

00:57:25.500 --> 00:57:26.519
in the description.