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Welcome to A Little Unscripted. The show where

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we pull a random title, spit a random genre,

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and then try to create a film that honestly shouldn't

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work. And is impossible. And is way too expensive.

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And no one's asking for. But that's the fun.

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One idea. One hour. And zero guarantees. Let's

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make this thing. Hello, good day. I'm Ryan. I'm

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Logan. And no matter what, we are going to make

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a movie today. Today. It, again, feels good and

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right to be here and to be doing this fine work.

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As of yet, nobody's taken us on any of our particular

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creations yet. No emails yet. We're waiting still.

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But that's okay. And the idea of it is still

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tickling us, so here we are. Keep trying. We're

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going to keep coming to the bat. At Trivia last

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night, not to peel back the curtain, but we hang

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out outside of this. How dare. There were some

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movie questions, and they were the book to, mostly

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if I recall correctly, the book to TV, things

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like that. Do you have an ultimate? scenario

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where it does not fail because you know the general

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consensus is that most movies do not live up

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to expectations i think it's almost impossible

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to to do how do you please everybody that reads

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a thing and then do you have a personal one that

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really nails it that like i think actually like

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knocks it out of the park and is like the best

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adaptation that i'm like yeah that's the one

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oh let me think on that can i have you read jaws

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i have not i haven't either What about Jurassic

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Park? I wonder. That's a great one. And I think

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it comes up in conversation as a pretty worthy.

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How about same author, but Westworld? Interesting.

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Are you going off the original movie with Yul

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Brynner or the TV show? I mean, the first season

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of the show, definitely for sure. Coma. Coma.

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Have you seen that with Michael Douglas? That's

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another Michael Crichton book. Interesting. I

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think Jurassic Park is a wonderful answer to

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that. I feel like some of the Hannibal, some

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of the Thomas Harris books have been done some

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justice to along the way, having read some. Maybe

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Conan? Conan? Conan the Barbarian Sword. The

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Barbarian Sword. Meaning from some comic book

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source material? Yeah, maybe. I don't know. The

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Schwarzenegger one was pretty great. Schwarzenegger

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was cast well as Conan. Alright, so my favorite

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bit of that is that he was too large to properly

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swing a sword. You need to slim down. Imagine

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being looking at him and being like, I need to

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slim down. They had a training with a samurai

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sword intentionally, but it's... That movie,

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I'm obsessed with specifically the first one.

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And I have no problem admitting that I enjoy

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The Destroyer as well, so suck it. And the soundtrack,

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I'm obsessed with. I think it's Basil Palidorus,

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if I'm not mistaken. And that score has always

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been so cool. That first movie, The Barbarian,

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really bloody. There's a fucking orgy in it with

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boobs. Yeah. And guts are coming out, and there's

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a green goo. Darth Vader turns into a snake.

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You know what I mean? If you see that early and

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I did, I was like, all movies better be as good

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as this. And I was disappointed for a while.

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So I feel like I've influenced you into picking

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Conan the Barbarian to be the correct answer.

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Well, I don't know. And I was a huge fan of the

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comic just because visually it represented things

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I liked. They were all kind of gnarly. The beasts

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were terrifying and I like that. And I'm forgetting

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the name of the artist who crossed over into

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a lot of like early heavy metal albums and stuff.

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But I love the comics and I'm down sashaying

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into current events. That idea of like the old

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Conan. What do you think of that? Like current

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day Schwarzenegger with a gray beard. Yeah, because

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that's been a thing for a long time. That would

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be an interesting one. Yeah, I mean, so we're

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going to reboot a series. He's getting well up

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there, though. I mean, like... He is, but I mean...

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We're being honest. How many times have we CGI'd

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him as a new character? Let's be real. The Terminator

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crew's got him on lock. They don't exist anymore,

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yeah. The Terminator crew's got him. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah. We can make him in any way, shape, or form.

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Because remember, at the end of Conan the Barbarian,

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they show him as old and battle -worn. And then

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at the end of The Destroyer, she says... Rule

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Shadazar with me. How many years has it been?

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When did the last one come out? It was the 80s.

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Will Chamberlain was in it. Grace Jones. Remember

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her for casting. I love every movie that I've

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seen Grace Jones in. And I've seen a few. That's

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just a weird stat. I don't know if that's something

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to celebrate or not, but I really, including

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the rare favorite James Bond, it's a top of mine

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that a lot of people do not like. That's okay.

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It's okay to have favorites. You stand on that

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hill. I was thinking about our last movie, so

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we should dive into this thing. We reminisced

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about our last movie. I had to think about it.

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It took us a moment to get the brains working

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again. I won't lie. I do think. That was a fun

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premise. It was a parody spoof. I like that we

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went after those two kind of genres. Do you have

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any strong recasts as it relates to the, let's

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say, the Surprise Butler character or maybe even

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the... Looking back now, I mean, I feel like

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we really missed out looking at the tagline,

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just looking back, because if I remember correctly,

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you convinced me. The tagline, the kids aren't

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not, the kids are all right. They're like, they're

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all right. They're not all right. The kids are

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not not all right, all right. Yeah, that one.

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No wonder I can't say it. Still makes me laugh.

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I don't know why. Yeah, so I feel like we really

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missed out on the opportunity to like, if I'm

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going to throw a curveball at you, can you tell

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me what you think? Ricky Vaughn away. No, he's

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just fastballing. He's heaters. uh instead of

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tom hanks is our beautiful principal who who

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does cocaine to die uh accidentally uh what if

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it was mr matthew right on the nose yeah right

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i feel like looking at that now like we missed

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the opportunity to say that let me um try to

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well again i'll volley that right back to you

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whatever the correct sports terminology is um

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in heavy prosthetic or not Do you think like

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Tom Cruise, like Tropic Thunder, like we put

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him in a fat suit and like bald cap because it

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would be hysterical. And I think about that crossover.

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Oh, he's a washed up hippie dude. Yeah. Washed

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up hippie turned bureaucratic. And stuffed in

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a suit. Yeah. But there's the very extreme version

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of it. And again, just throwing it your way,

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where you have. Colin Farrell, unrecognizable

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as the Penguin. More recognizable as Richard

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Kind. But you know what I mean? A situation where

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it's McConaughey under there. But you're like,

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what the hell? Or do you think... more recognizable,

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and a take on one of his old characters. I think

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more recognizable, but I still like the idea

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of prosthetics where it's the Tom Cruise situation

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where you get it, but you don't quite notice

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it. What about Hemsworth in the newest In Furiosa?

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What did you think of that nose situation? I'll

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be honest, the nose didn't take me out of it.

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I feel like he was just fine. I loved every second.

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Yeah, the accent was great. So something interesting

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like that on McConaughey or just a little more

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subtle? Because in the movie Gold, did you ever

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see that? Gold. A true story about literal gold.

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He, balding, has some paunch on him. So it's

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the makeup work and that is incredible. He looks,

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it's pretty unrecognizable. And it's not like

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having lost a lot of physical weight for a different

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role. But he looks, it's him. But you're like,

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what if you really let things go? Okay. In real

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life, I think that's what he'd look like. So

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you're thinking like he looks haggard. Maybe

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that character, you should look it up, the character

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in gold. Okay. And maybe make it like that. I'll

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trust your word on this. And side note, you should

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watch that movie. It's really... It'll go on

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the checklist. For those of you who listen, I

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have a whole checklist for Ryan's recommendations.

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And it only gets longer. It only gets longer

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the longer I've known him. Well... Any other

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changes? I really... I love that. I think that

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that's tremendous. And I like... We were current

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with Handsome Frankenstein. Yep. Here's a question.

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I know that we decided on George Clooney being

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his Alfred, his butler, manservant, bodyguard,

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because he's a foreign exchange student. As great

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as it is, do you want to reunite Woody Harrelson?

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Do you want him to be the guy? Is he our janitor

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instead of Danny McBride? I feel like we made

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Danny McBride the janitor, right? Oh, yes. Was

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it any of this? Beautiful. So now Woody Harrelson.

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We have it. Woody Harrelson and McConaughey pairing

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again. Woody Harrelson as the take on the janitor

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who calls everybody son. You're not my dad. Okay,

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son. Okay, son. No, no. He goes around using

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dad nicknames like Champs or that's my favorite.

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For those of you who don't know, it's the best

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game in the world. If you want to play it, all

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you got to do is just, you know, Champ, sport.

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Where's my other good ones? Well, being my last

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name, I got a lot of buckaroos. Oh, yeah. Buckaroos.

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Variants on that. And if others were, you know,

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given that, I'd be like, yo, that's my chief

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territory. Big dog. You ever had somebody call

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you big dog before? You know how weird it is?

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No, never. I'm having you spend a server. Like

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I've had people be like, all right, big dog.

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And you're like. Why are you using that vernacular?

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Did you take it well, honestly? I would laugh.

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I mean, it's clearly non -threatening, but it's

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meant to be endearing. But were you like, oh,

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that's cool. It was just like... Trying. At least

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you tried something. Wow. Yeah, I don't know.

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Were your pants on at the time? Always. Okay,

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because we were talking about the slamming salmon

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and wild things that servers do. Dang. All right,

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well... I think I'm going to get us ready for

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our numbers. And forgive me that I hadn't done

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this in a suave and cool manner as we've been

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talking. But, you know, it's going to be pretty

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quick. All right. So as a reminder, what we must

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do after we get the genre and randomly generated

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name of our film, we must complete. A plot to

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conclusion. Yes. Whatever that means. Whatever

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that means. We've been pretty loose. Very loose.

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But we've had fun with it so far. So kind of

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like multi -acts. You know, we can get a room

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of writers together and we can make this happen.

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It's okay. Right. We can finesse this out. It

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has to have a character. Singular. At least.

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At least one. A character. We haven't done a

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single Roman single character yet. This is good.

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I like that. It must have a director. Uh -huh.

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Somebody's got to make this thing. And a tagline.

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I think that might be our secret favorite part.

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And it is. And we have some good to have. So

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composer, writer, locations. Along the way, we

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found our way to put some things in there that

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are kind of fun. So we're trying to make it as

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easy for anybody. Yeah. Who's ever listening.

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To make. If we can make this movie. We're giving

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these to you. Yeah. Because we. Our actors may

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be past, present, or future. Yeah. But you know.

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Make it happen. We can still make it happen.

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Not too AI -y, because we don't want it to look

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fake. I mean, if the CG looks too real, I'm out

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of it. We live in the now, so anything's possible.

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Oh, my gosh. Well, again, all right. We have

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generated our random number between 1 and 100,

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and that is our title. That is number 84. 84

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is our title. In our genre. Let's hear the genre

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first. Is 19. Oh, gosh. What was 19? 19 is a

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family movie. That's going to be. All right.

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What is our title for our family movie? And the

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title for the family movie. That was given to

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us. This number, whatever it was, 88. 84. This

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could be a real pickle. Real dilemma. Oh. Is

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it good? The Last Reasonable Person. The Last?

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I mean, that sounds like a family movie for sure.

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Does it sound like a holiday movie? Interesting.

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Interesting. All right. The Last Reasonable Person.

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The Last Reasonable Person. And we will legit

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start a timer and make this really cool. All

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right. Well, hold on. Do we need to count ourselves

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down? What I know before we go into this is that

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we've kind of been out of our own personal wheelhouses.

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Yeah, we're going different. Or do you always

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write what you know? Well, that's fascinating.

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And we do this for the fun of it. But we haven't

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gotten anything that are the genres that we could

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be like, oh, easy. I go to family and, you know,

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family is not a very friendly word for everybody.

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You know, they're like, family, no, thank you.

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My family is terrible. I don't care how warm

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and fuzzy this is supposed to make me. I'm triggered

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by all of this. And fuck you, I'm not going to

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sit here and watch Pollyanna or Double Trouble

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or whatever. Cheaper by the dozen. Do you have

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a favorite family movie? Favorite family movie?

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Because there's a lot of interesting crossovers

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from back in the day. Might I say like The Explorers?

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Yeah, The Explorers. Meaning fantasy sci -fi.

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Okay. And we've been pretty loose on some things,

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interestingly, before. So it could go into that

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territory. Lost in Space is a family movie. Yeah.

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Flight of the Navigator. Yeah. Mine all go to

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a certain place. Does Lord of the Rings count

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as a family movie? About found family? Well,

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I might retort with a Willow. Ooh, Willow definitely

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falls into the family movie. He definitely is

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a father figure. And Valley Kiln is the mother

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figure for sure. The definition of family movies

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that I even saw in the theater when I was young,

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I think way different than when you were young

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and you were coming out. They used to be dark.

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If I remember correctly, kid family movies. And

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I was in the movie theater when it was just PG

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and R. Yeah, you either saw blood or no blood.

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And then PG popped in. And then my dad had this

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maniacal but kind of logical thought. That over

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a certain age, we were still paying the adult

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price. So between ages like 11 and whatever.

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So you had to argue with people and say they're

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paying the adult price. They can see an R -rated

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movie that makes sense. That's logical. In defiance.

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How punk rock is this? Go see any movie we want

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and be loud about it. Yeah. These kids are going

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to go see Behind the Green Door or whatever it

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was. And I remember I got to walk into so many

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fun. And sometimes we were taken out because

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I think. Like they were onto us and he was so

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obnoxious about it, but a lot of times. All right.

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Random sidebar here. Yeah. I, I once did the

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unthinkable. Nobody knows this. The unthinkable.

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I know a friend and I went to go see an R rated

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movie. Okay. Underage children's. Great. I know.

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I drove there. So, you know, it's not like I

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was like that underage. It was like, I was like

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17, not 18. So I couldn't get into the, to, to

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see it for reasons. Yeah. All right. I, So we

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bought tickets for something else. I think the

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movie, if I remember correctly, the movie was

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Due Date. Robert Downey Jr. Zach Galifianakis.

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Due Date. Family movie? No. Yes, technically.

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It's about him trying to get back to his family.

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Well, there's a lot of different latitudes. That's

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a good point. But anywho. I've heard of an R

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-rated family movie the night before. Brotherly

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family. Okay. Interesting. Anywho. So my friend

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gets in. And I made the mistake of talking to

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the guys. I shouldn't have talked to the guys.

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I just said like, I'm going to, Hey, I got friends

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in there. I happen to have like a white hat on.

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And as I got in there, there, my buddy had already

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saved a seat and I take the hat off. I handed

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to him and throughout the whole movie, I keep

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seeing the attendants come in and they come in

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like 10 times throughout this like 90 minute

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movie. And so, yeah, as I'm like, I know they're

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looking for me. Cause like this theater is packed.

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They're looking for me. And so I hand my buddy,

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my hat. I was like, Hey, Just take this out of

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the car and I'll go with you, you know. And as

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I walk out of the theater, this guy's like, I'm

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looking for that kid in the white hat. Oh, wow.

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These guys were mad. Just because of your ute?

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Yeah, because I didn't want. You were a ute.

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Yeah, I was a child. A child. A sweet, young,

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innocent boy. Being corrupted by such filth.

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Yeah. I've never seen a theater so. and spiteful

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about this one child. I get you. I'm sorry for

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that. Again, I was similarly traumatized by my

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father protesting loudly that if he wants to

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see Hudson Hawk, God damn it, he's going to see

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it. All right, let's set this timer. Let's do

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this thing. You ready? I think we've hit the

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banter limit. I'm interested if you have notions

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already. Ooh, all right. Are you interested in

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it being truly like PG? Ooh, does family movie

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require PG? Does it require parental guidance?

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I don't think it does. I mean, I think we...

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Well, here's what's interesting. Somebody refuted

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Die Hard being a Christmas movie purely by a

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fact that he could not bring his family to it.

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People are murdered, and that's not family. That's

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not Christmas to him. Fair. Christmas equals

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family. So if we want to have a little fun, maybe

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we try to be wholesome. All right. And make a

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nice family movie called The Last Reasonable

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Person. All right. So what's happened with this

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last reasonable person? Do you have any books

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from your youth that you love? Books from the

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youth? Even if it's something different, something

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obscure. Obscure. I mean, I was a big fantasy

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kid growing up. That was my thing. So, you know,

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if I remember correctly, like we used to have

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fantasy and we used to have dark fantasy. yeah

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i mean i don't know if we you know things are

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different now and like fantasy is wholesome but

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right i remember like in not a book but like

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you remember the never -ending story yeah okay

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how come that's never come back because uh because

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it traumatized everyone yeah i was in the theater

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you might have deserved it weeping outwardly

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weeping when our text went down yeah in a family

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movie and again that's a movie where i showed

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it to my kids and they're like what the dude

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yeah You're an asshole, and I can say our text.

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They used to have emotion. They used to have

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character. You felt something when our text died.

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I would love to create something that's like

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that. All right, so you're thinking we're going

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fantasy now? Family fantasy? Yeah, but of that,

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if you want to have some real meaning, I think

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that's really pretty cool. I'm down. It runs

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the route of having, obviously, maybe you need

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antagonists and protagonists to root for. I mean,

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even the last, think of it this way, I would

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imagine Treasure Planet counts as a family movie.

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That's a great movie. It's a great movie, and

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Disney definitely didn't give it the props it

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deserved to be. But it's a family movie, and

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it speaks to it. exact demographic that they

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stopped targeting immediately after. They're

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like, just go watch superhero movies instead.

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Being a little bit of a joker slash riddler,

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what other types of movies than sci -fi or fantasy?

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I was recently told that The Giving Tree is a

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horrible shit book. I don't know if that's true.

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Because that kid is just a real fucking asshole.

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But isn't that the point? I don't know. Are you

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supposed to take morals out of it? Like you shouldn't

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be that person. No, I, I, it exploded my mind.

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I was like, I never thought of it that way. It's

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like, yeah, it's all about perspective. All right.

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So that is very interesting. Let's get to it.

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So what if this family movie, what if, uh, what

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if it, you're our character is, uh, it dispels

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all the myths of the old books. No. What if instead,

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like, I don't know, you never get to see, uh,

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the bad guys, kids. Well, isn't there that Disney?

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with Enchanted and the universe where all their

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kids are going to school. There's that version

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of it. But what draws you to that? What draws

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you to the bad guys' kids? I don't know. Like

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Mike Yagubian in Meet the Robinsons. I love that

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they hated me. And they're like, hey, good job,

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Goob. You know, like he just will not be as singularly

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focused on his hatred and anger and will not

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swivel from it, which is fascinating. I feel

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like because the family thing, everybody's like

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i think the idea is that family can be found

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so the idea is that not everybody comes from

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a stable household no matter what so no matter

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what life is i think life is complex all right

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well instability leaning into something that's

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maybe a little rough yeah i think drama yeah

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i mean look shameless the show yeah there's a

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show about family super familiar it's like great

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definitely worth your time but like it's A lot

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of fame, like big actors now had been on that

00:22:10.420 --> 00:22:13.079
show. It's cool to go back and look at it and

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be like, yeah, 15 years ago was a long time.

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But yeah, like the family dynamics are crazy

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because like you realize that not everything's

00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:24.079
white fences and suburbia, you know, there's

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the drunk negligent parents. Yeah. If we're doing

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a family fantasy, we can do it about it. Like

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if I remember correctly, like. not a not wicked

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but there's a like a uh like alice kills dorothy

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or is that like kill dorothy is like a like a

00:22:43.359 --> 00:22:47.140
canon spin -off of like hey now a free character

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because public domain yeah and like this character

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it's also comes from kansas and like yeah she

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comes from a trailer park And it's like, Dorothy

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came from a house out here. It's like, I'm from

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a trailer park and now Dorothy's this rich, arrogant,

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you know, like lives in a castle. I've always

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been fascinated and forgive me if this is a movie,

00:23:05.269 --> 00:23:09.569
but in the concept where if I could go back with

00:23:09.569 --> 00:23:12.970
what I know now and maybe like that happening

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and it going wrong, like you get to choose. five

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like there's a fantastical world where you get

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to go back and relive five critical moments okay

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with everything you know now and if you like

00:23:26.650 --> 00:23:30.549
that bully you want to rail on you go okay so

00:23:30.549 --> 00:23:32.470
you're thinking like a magic orb shows up and

00:23:32.470 --> 00:23:35.470
you get to go relive if you want to go into fantasy

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because that's a concept i mean this is not super

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dramatic But, you know, the truth may be in what

00:23:41.859 --> 00:23:45.180
you choose, and there can be a lesson or a learning

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from it along the way that you just kind of end

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up seeing a different perspective or what have

00:23:49.059 --> 00:23:52.720
you. But the idea, and I've had it, but I think

00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:54.900
it's been done. I just can't think of a movie,

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you know, of that kind of. I can see it going

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on. you know i think about it like with what

00:24:00.400 --> 00:24:03.640
i know now i would destroy the spelling bee and

00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:08.240
heal that trauma that i had you know like if

00:24:08.240 --> 00:24:09.839
you can only you know and there's been movies

00:24:09.839 --> 00:24:12.079
if you can only fix that one moment but if i

00:24:12.079 --> 00:24:15.500
went back with what i know now would you still

00:24:15.500 --> 00:24:17.119
be you though when you came out the other side

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yeah i don't know but it's just it's just like

00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:22.660
maybe the fantastical concept of yeah you know

00:24:22.660 --> 00:24:26.660
travel um and then what does it end to like You

00:24:26.660 --> 00:24:29.880
get to see how your life ends when you handle

00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:32.700
these moments differently. Are we looking for

00:24:32.700 --> 00:24:34.539
a star? Are we looking for a director to kick

00:24:34.539 --> 00:24:36.640
us off? Do you like the idea of that? I like

00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:39.980
the idea of a fantasy family movie. The idea

00:24:39.980 --> 00:24:44.920
of fixing key moments. Do you want that to be...

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It's kind of like The Family Man with Nick Cage.

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do we want this idea to be wholesome or do you

00:24:51.630 --> 00:24:53.329
want it to be like, let's say, I don't know,

00:24:53.390 --> 00:24:55.690
like this dark entity is promising, like, look,

00:24:55.829 --> 00:24:58.529
you can go back and fix these things. I like

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wholesome. I kind of, you know, you were trying

00:25:00.630 --> 00:25:02.670
to get into serious territory and I fucked it

00:25:02.670 --> 00:25:05.430
there with the trailer park. But in the thing

00:25:05.430 --> 00:25:09.750
about Dorothy, yeah, not being, but, and there's,

00:25:09.750 --> 00:25:12.609
you know, I remember seeing Kids, the movie,

00:25:12.789 --> 00:25:16.250
and being like, holy shit, AIDS, and oh boy.

00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:21.240
Oh no. Okay. Um, uh, suburbia, you know, and,

00:25:21.420 --> 00:25:27.359
and those movies, um, even, um, with Keanu Reeves,

00:25:27.380 --> 00:25:30.140
the river's edge, you know, that was like real

00:25:30.140 --> 00:25:32.400
stuff about isolated kids. And we're like, Oh,

00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:34.880
gnarly slayers in the soundtrack and that stuff.

00:25:34.980 --> 00:25:37.619
Here's a question. Does family movie necessarily

00:25:37.619 --> 00:25:41.819
require kids movie? No, I don't know. Okay. Okay.

00:25:41.819 --> 00:25:43.640
Cause like, again, like the family man, Nicholas

00:25:43.640 --> 00:25:46.970
cage is that cool one where like, He gets to

00:25:46.970 --> 00:25:48.529
figure out what his life would have been like

00:25:48.529 --> 00:25:52.109
had he stayed with his girlfriend. Do we have

00:25:52.109 --> 00:25:55.509
a rough tagline? Maybe this will give us a direction.

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Something we're thinking. I don't know. We approach

00:26:00.430 --> 00:26:05.029
the tagline markedly different. I work into it.

00:26:05.190 --> 00:26:08.190
I'm with the actor thing because I would love

00:26:08.190 --> 00:26:13.549
William H. Macy in this. As the dad? As a character

00:26:13.549 --> 00:26:16.779
who I think... Has the potential. Because I've

00:26:16.779 --> 00:26:19.859
seen him in so many things. Including a movie

00:26:19.859 --> 00:26:21.980
where he plays a gay man. And gets his heart

00:26:21.980 --> 00:26:26.279
broken. He's so fucking versatile. And he's so.

00:26:27.380 --> 00:26:30.440
He's awesome. He's pretty great. At what he does.

00:26:31.579 --> 00:26:34.819
That if you want to have an emotional moment.

00:26:36.059 --> 00:26:39.700
He's your guy. You're locked in. Any period of

00:26:39.700 --> 00:26:46.500
his career. True. Especially early. Fargo. But,

00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:50.259
like, he's just, I think he does emotion super

00:26:50.259 --> 00:26:51.740
fucking well. Definitely shows it on his face.

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So not maybe as the lead character, if there

00:26:53.380 --> 00:26:57.660
is a lead, you know, but as a pivotal character.

00:26:58.019 --> 00:27:02.480
All right. Fantasy Family, William H. Macy. Is

00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:05.039
our character going, like, to a fantasy world?

00:27:05.140 --> 00:27:07.480
Or is a fantasy thing happening to them? Or is

00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:09.339
it sci -fi? Well, I like that idea where, you

00:27:09.339 --> 00:27:12.940
know, like, something triggers this event. Yeah.

00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:17.019
and is it a tragic event like let's say his child

00:27:17.019 --> 00:27:19.539
dies let's say he's got a kid dies like he thinks

00:27:19.539 --> 00:27:22.339
that the main character yeah dies yeah like these

00:27:22.339 --> 00:27:25.640
events because i mean tragedy happens all the

00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:28.240
time doesn't necessarily need to be happy we

00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:30.400
can end on a happy note maybe the changing of

00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:33.650
these events if that's the case Well, yeah, that's

00:27:33.650 --> 00:27:35.630
the thing. You get to change the outcome of this.

00:27:35.750 --> 00:27:37.410
So it feels like it's a sci -fi thing. It feels

00:27:37.410 --> 00:27:39.329
almost like a game show. That's a little heavy

00:27:39.329 --> 00:27:41.829
if the premise is you get to go back and... And

00:27:41.829 --> 00:27:43.609
if you figure out the things to do correctly.

00:27:43.650 --> 00:27:45.430
Because it feels like Adam Sandler could be in

00:27:45.430 --> 00:27:47.950
it. I get to go back and... It does feel like

00:27:47.950 --> 00:27:51.630
Click. But the... Oh, what is Click again? He

00:27:51.630 --> 00:27:53.950
gets a remote to fast forward through time -space

00:27:53.950 --> 00:27:57.329
and see his family and he realizes what the things

00:27:57.329 --> 00:27:58.750
he does wrong. I like the idea of being able

00:27:58.750 --> 00:28:00.890
to choose a couple of moments that you could...

00:28:01.019 --> 00:28:04.019
pick okay that you think may have changed the

00:28:04.019 --> 00:28:06.400
trajectory almost like a christmas with like

00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:09.700
with what i know now and and that could be um

00:28:09.700 --> 00:28:13.200
and what if it's like back to the last reasonable

00:28:13.200 --> 00:28:16.019
person that's our title forgive me so what if

00:28:16.019 --> 00:28:19.539
uh last hear me out person hear me out what if

00:28:19.539 --> 00:28:22.420
it's uh like him retelling a story kind of like

00:28:22.420 --> 00:28:25.359
princess bride style but instead of like he's

00:28:25.359 --> 00:28:27.400
telling a story book like he's recanting his

00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:30.900
story okay And this is where he's at now. William

00:28:30.900 --> 00:28:32.839
H. Macy is the older version of this person.

00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:38.099
Yeah, yeah. All right. Is it Jesse Plemons? I

00:28:38.099 --> 00:28:42.359
just went on visual. I went on visual. Okay.

00:28:43.140 --> 00:28:46.500
I like that a lot as retelling this. Yeah. Or

00:28:46.500 --> 00:28:49.200
like he's sitting around like a fire or something

00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:53.019
like that. Yeah. Yeah. I can see that. Yeah.

00:28:53.140 --> 00:28:56.400
It feels very adventury. Because you clearly

00:28:56.400 --> 00:28:59.920
know that he ended in a way that at least includes

00:28:59.920 --> 00:29:04.440
a grandchild. Or somebody. Which makes it very

00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:06.980
interesting. And I think maybe other movies have

00:29:06.980 --> 00:29:08.420
set it up that way, but I don't really give a

00:29:08.420 --> 00:29:11.039
shit. I think that's really exciting. But do

00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:16.160
you like the idea of you get to change not one,

00:29:16.220 --> 00:29:19.019
but multiple key moments? Because the idea is

00:29:19.019 --> 00:29:24.039
everybody is way more than one. Yeah, you get

00:29:24.039 --> 00:29:27.940
to change every moment, every day. Sorry. Maybe

00:29:27.940 --> 00:29:32.799
too heavy. Interesting. Anywho. And he's retelling.

00:29:32.940 --> 00:29:36.519
Yeah. I like that. Yeah, yeah. Because, again,

00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:40.079
you can make this PG very, very easily. And with

00:29:40.079 --> 00:29:42.619
him. You can still have your action. We can still

00:29:42.619 --> 00:29:45.690
have our whimsy. Yeah. I'm going to vote it's

00:29:45.690 --> 00:29:48.730
definitely our 80s. So this idea is like with

00:29:48.730 --> 00:29:52.230
what I know now, like with what I, oh man, if

00:29:52.230 --> 00:29:55.730
I only, if I confronted that person with what

00:29:55.730 --> 00:29:58.990
I knew now, if I said yes, and maybe it's not

00:29:58.990 --> 00:30:01.750
that kind of thing, but it's, you know. All right,

00:30:01.789 --> 00:30:04.910
let's see. Is he telling, is our grandfather

00:30:04.910 --> 00:30:07.529
character here, is he telling it to a singular

00:30:07.529 --> 00:30:11.069
person or a group of people? Oh, oh, oh, oh,

00:30:11.069 --> 00:30:13.650
that's fascinating. Yeah. Because there could

00:30:13.650 --> 00:30:15.450
be a group of people you could assume are his

00:30:15.450 --> 00:30:17.829
family or not. Yeah. And then there could be

00:30:17.829 --> 00:30:20.529
a twist at the end. It could be a twist. Retelling

00:30:20.529 --> 00:30:24.150
to a group of people. Like, yeah. But, and it

00:30:24.150 --> 00:30:25.930
could be just the whole family and they're like,

00:30:25.970 --> 00:30:28.549
we love when you tell this story. Yeah. But,

00:30:28.609 --> 00:30:31.069
I mean. And they think he's crazy. You could

00:30:31.069 --> 00:30:33.430
even play it where like, you could almost do

00:30:33.430 --> 00:30:35.569
a vignette where like everybody's seeing it differently.

00:30:36.170 --> 00:30:39.230
I mean, I could see that where like everybody's

00:30:39.230 --> 00:30:41.089
seeing it from a different perspective. Yeah.

00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:43.599
That could be interesting. Okay. This is great.

00:30:43.980 --> 00:30:50.920
Do we need a tragic event to trigger this occasion?

00:30:52.079 --> 00:30:56.779
And how should William H. Macy's younger self

00:30:56.779 --> 00:31:00.779
be visited? Ooh, be visited? You know, like by

00:31:00.779 --> 00:31:03.039
this intervention, by this sci -fi intervention

00:31:03.039 --> 00:31:06.410
where... You know, and I think it maybe could

00:31:06.410 --> 00:31:09.509
be something mundane, like maybe like job related.

00:31:09.589 --> 00:31:12.890
Like if I only, you know, and is about to make

00:31:12.890 --> 00:31:15.829
a terrible decision and then somebody steps in,

00:31:15.849 --> 00:31:18.750
you know, in a supernatural looking over your

00:31:18.750 --> 00:31:22.549
shoulder like and says, you've got the chance.

00:31:22.670 --> 00:31:28.549
Right. And you get key moments to choose. Okay.

00:31:28.609 --> 00:31:30.589
So are you saying that he's also the last reasonable

00:31:30.589 --> 00:31:33.539
person going back? convincing himself like these

00:31:33.539 --> 00:31:37.180
are better selections in time that's interesting

00:31:37.180 --> 00:31:40.279
the title yeah because this is the so is our

00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:43.079
premise a little bit too soft for this yeah i

00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:45.819
like the idea i'm thinking instead of leaning

00:31:45.819 --> 00:31:48.500
into the mundanity i think i'm leaning more into

00:31:48.500 --> 00:31:50.900
the princess bride of like it should be an adventure

00:31:50.900 --> 00:31:54.099
it should be whimsy fun the last reasonable person

00:31:54.099 --> 00:31:57.900
i mean it could be his heroic telling of his

00:31:57.900 --> 00:32:01.089
life and how he got here and it's like In your

00:32:01.089 --> 00:32:03.349
sense, it could easily be like, hey, instead

00:32:03.349 --> 00:32:06.710
of doing this, I decided to do this. I was laying

00:32:06.710 --> 00:32:10.289
out a pretty heavy premise that's all kind of

00:32:10.289 --> 00:32:12.549
hinged on that. And it's that bit of dopamine.

00:32:12.650 --> 00:32:15.609
I'm like, yeah, if I would have had this thing

00:32:15.609 --> 00:32:19.029
happen. It could definitely be a retelling. The

00:32:19.029 --> 00:32:22.069
last reasonable person. The last reasonable person.

00:32:22.950 --> 00:32:26.730
Right. Because, I mean. I would like to see the

00:32:26.730 --> 00:32:28.710
idea of like everybody's telling him to do this

00:32:28.710 --> 00:32:30.130
thing. And he's like, no, I'm going to trust

00:32:30.130 --> 00:32:32.750
my gut. And at the end, it turns out like he

00:32:32.750 --> 00:32:35.130
was right. Yeah. He trusted his gut enough to

00:32:35.130 --> 00:32:38.710
actually succeed. And like, turns out everybody

00:32:38.710 --> 00:32:40.809
was wrong. You know, and I honestly think the

00:32:40.809 --> 00:32:43.289
title, even if we did lean into that premise

00:32:43.289 --> 00:32:46.730
of fixing those things, we could work our way

00:32:46.730 --> 00:32:50.769
into that title. Yeah. And a tagline, I bet.

00:32:51.130 --> 00:32:54.670
Okay. I'm sure. So if we just, if we work with

00:32:54.670 --> 00:32:57.500
that. There's an event that triggers something.

00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:01.400
What's something that you wish you could go back

00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:03.380
and fix in your life? Not to be too personal,

00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:09.279
but like if I could go back and had this wisdom

00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:13.460
now. I would have bought a house straight out

00:33:13.460 --> 00:33:15.660
of college. What do you mean? Times have changed.

00:33:16.059 --> 00:33:19.299
Interesting. That's probably the biggest one.

00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:22.160
Interesting. Play the market is what I'm saying,

00:33:22.279 --> 00:33:25.250
everybody. Do hot tub time machine. If you know

00:33:25.250 --> 00:33:31.410
it's coming, buy in now. Yeah, absolutely. I

00:33:31.410 --> 00:33:35.470
think it would be, maybe it's cool if it is something

00:33:35.470 --> 00:33:40.970
job -related. Okay. And he's about to make just

00:33:40.970 --> 00:33:43.309
a bad mistake, and somebody intervenes like that.

00:33:43.390 --> 00:33:45.990
All right. So it's like, I wish I would have

00:33:45.990 --> 00:33:49.630
done, and I didn't, and he's about to do something.

00:33:49.890 --> 00:33:52.700
So he's retelling a story, and he's... recanting

00:33:52.700 --> 00:33:54.240
and he's like, all right, cool. I missed the

00:33:54.240 --> 00:33:56.460
call to adventure. It would have doomed my life

00:33:56.460 --> 00:34:00.799
had I done this and I got this intervention and

00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:04.400
somebody says, you get however many, four just

00:34:04.400 --> 00:34:07.660
comes to mind. You get four moments that you

00:34:07.660 --> 00:34:10.239
can go back to with all the knowledge that you

00:34:10.239 --> 00:34:13.260
have now and you can't freak anybody out. You're

00:34:13.260 --> 00:34:16.280
like, cars are flying. But you can relive those

00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:20.559
moments. And thusly, there are rules. You can't

00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:22.280
say, I know this because I'm from the fucking

00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:24.760
future. So that is interesting because that puts

00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:26.679
some points on it. Let's say you go back and

00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:30.340
you confront a fifth grade bully just because

00:34:30.340 --> 00:34:33.019
you want to destroy him. Just because? Are you

00:34:33.019 --> 00:34:35.119
as strong as you were in fifth grade? And there

00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:37.099
could be other things like, you know, there could

00:34:37.099 --> 00:34:39.260
be perspective towards the end of how those things

00:34:39.260 --> 00:34:42.900
affected those people. Okay. Like a la Cobra

00:34:42.900 --> 00:34:46.360
Kai? In a way. Oh, interesting. Yeah, exactly.

00:34:47.989 --> 00:34:50.489
Well, maybe it's fun to think about who is younger

00:34:50.489 --> 00:34:54.130
William H. Macy. Younger William H. Macy. Any

00:34:54.130 --> 00:34:59.230
suggestions? I'm going to space on it. In a way,

00:34:59.309 --> 00:35:04.849
I'd love a young Paul Newman in this. Paul Newman

00:35:04.849 --> 00:35:07.130
as a young... Yeah. The blue eyes, definitely.

00:35:07.269 --> 00:35:10.889
For sure. For sure. Paul Newman to the age of

00:35:10.889 --> 00:35:13.730
William H. Macy. And it's a little bit out of

00:35:13.730 --> 00:35:18.070
character. Okay. But if you put him in these

00:35:18.070 --> 00:35:21.590
kind of modern times to be able to go back and

00:35:21.590 --> 00:35:24.969
do a bunch of different things. All right. All

00:35:24.969 --> 00:35:27.929
right. So Paul Newman is our young William H.

00:35:27.929 --> 00:35:30.489
Macy. Yeah. So William H. Macy is recanting the

00:35:30.489 --> 00:35:35.130
story. Yep. And Paul Newman's like the guy living

00:35:35.130 --> 00:35:37.889
it out. Who's our ghost that's going to come

00:35:37.889 --> 00:35:38.670
back and communicate with him? Yeah, that's what's

00:35:38.670 --> 00:35:40.809
interesting. I like this. This definitely feels

00:35:40.809 --> 00:35:43.250
like a Christmas carol now, unfortunately. Is

00:35:43.250 --> 00:35:47.090
it his ghost? I don't know. I think it's a real

00:35:47.090 --> 00:35:51.369
person. Initially, it's like, and there has to

00:35:51.369 --> 00:35:54.250
be this moment of belief. I keep going back to

00:35:54.250 --> 00:35:57.829
the family man, where it's Don Cheadle. But something

00:35:57.829 --> 00:36:00.309
kind of similar to that. I'm thinking more not

00:36:00.309 --> 00:36:02.150
quite the movie. Or maybe it's something totally

00:36:02.150 --> 00:36:04.250
different. Yeah. I'm thinking not quite the movie,

00:36:04.289 --> 00:36:06.110
the butterfly effect, but more like random people

00:36:06.110 --> 00:36:07.949
are like, why don't you go do this thing that

00:36:07.949 --> 00:36:11.570
you actually want to do? And then he gets to

00:36:11.570 --> 00:36:13.670
play that out and see what it actually would

00:36:13.670 --> 00:36:15.710
have been like. It's what sounds like you're

00:36:15.710 --> 00:36:19.090
trying to convince me of. He's trying to play

00:36:19.090 --> 00:36:21.329
out the fantasy of like, these are the regrets

00:36:21.329 --> 00:36:23.889
I had in life and wish I had done differently.

00:36:24.570 --> 00:36:27.250
But it shows a lot about him because he's just

00:36:27.250 --> 00:36:29.469
got to choose them, do them, and then get the

00:36:29.469 --> 00:36:31.690
output. Yeah. You know what I mean? So he doesn't

00:36:31.690 --> 00:36:34.130
get to, and the point is he doesn't consider

00:36:34.130 --> 00:36:38.389
along the way what the output is. You know what

00:36:38.389 --> 00:36:40.210
I mean? So there you kind of have a first, second,

00:36:40.230 --> 00:36:43.230
and third act situation. And then your final

00:36:43.230 --> 00:36:48.210
is him. So at the final bit, is it him saying

00:36:48.210 --> 00:36:51.050
like, I regret the choices, but I'm okay with

00:36:51.050 --> 00:36:54.670
making them? because uh the last reasonable person

00:36:54.670 --> 00:36:57.969
would be like hey all life comes down to making

00:36:57.969 --> 00:37:00.489
choices and you regret no matter what you choose

00:37:00.489 --> 00:37:02.130
you just have to be comfortable with the choices

00:37:02.130 --> 00:37:04.550
you make yeah okay so you're thinking like and

00:37:04.550 --> 00:37:07.309
also think about that really you know okay like

00:37:07.309 --> 00:37:08.849
you live the moment the way you're supposed to

00:37:08.849 --> 00:37:10.769
live it and there are other people in that moment

00:37:10.769 --> 00:37:14.110
too you have infinite things to say and do and

00:37:14.110 --> 00:37:16.780
whatever you said and did Was supposed to be

00:37:16.780 --> 00:37:18.420
sad and dead, unfortunately. Hopefully it was

00:37:18.420 --> 00:37:20.139
your best self at the time. You know, that kind

00:37:20.139 --> 00:37:21.639
of thing. You can only make the decisions you

00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:24.880
know with the choices you have. So it has the

00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:28.059
ability to have some humor. Okay. Got some heart.

00:37:28.059 --> 00:37:30.219
Because I think you get some fun into what these

00:37:30.219 --> 00:37:32.800
four things are. Okay. These four past moments.

00:37:33.260 --> 00:37:35.840
So if you have a younger Paul Newman, but who's

00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:39.320
like, no, William H. Macy is, what are we saying,

00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:43.510
like 70? Yeah, some 70 age him up or whatever.

00:37:43.650 --> 00:37:45.829
Yeah. Age him up a little bit. So I'm up a little

00:37:45.829 --> 00:37:47.809
more. Maybe some, you know, you have this thing

00:37:47.809 --> 00:37:53.050
happen when he's 50. You could. You could. And

00:37:53.050 --> 00:37:55.309
then you could age, you know, have Paul Newman

00:37:55.309 --> 00:37:59.489
de -aged throughout the film going backwards.

00:37:59.550 --> 00:38:02.730
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You know, depending on what's

00:38:02.730 --> 00:38:06.050
chosen. So what is a cool event? You know, so

00:38:06.050 --> 00:38:09.349
yeah. So like a career comes to an end. Yeah.

00:38:09.510 --> 00:38:12.510
He's about to make a terrible choice. And what

00:38:12.510 --> 00:38:15.250
if it's somebody who's been a pal all along who

00:38:15.250 --> 00:38:19.429
steps up and is like, listen, go do this other

00:38:19.429 --> 00:38:23.610
thing. I've been here all along. Maybe it's corny,

00:38:23.610 --> 00:38:26.570
but you're like, you're out of your mind. Okay.

00:38:26.670 --> 00:38:29.329
Who's this friend who saves him? Who's like,

00:38:29.409 --> 00:38:32.420
go, go do this thing. Because he's recanting,

00:38:32.559 --> 00:38:35.579
he's retelling his story through different, through

00:38:35.579 --> 00:38:37.260
things he actually didn't do. So I feel like

00:38:37.260 --> 00:38:39.519
this is where the fun comes in of like, this

00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:42.519
is where the event, because you could almost

00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:44.699
do like a Munchausen syndrome. Yeah, exactly.

00:38:44.980 --> 00:38:47.980
Like it's all made up. Not necessarily like could

00:38:47.980 --> 00:38:50.920
do. Yeah. I like somebody who's different than,

00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:54.219
you know, young to middle -aged Paul Newman energy.

00:38:54.500 --> 00:38:56.960
Okay. You know, and not in a Butch Cassidy and

00:38:56.960 --> 00:39:00.289
Sundance kind of way. But I mean, he's tough,

00:39:00.530 --> 00:39:02.710
but he can be caring, he can be sensitive. So

00:39:02.710 --> 00:39:06.429
you want him to go off on an adventure. So out

00:39:06.429 --> 00:39:09.269
of high school, he gets a corporate job. Yeah,

00:39:09.570 --> 00:39:12.030
maybe somebody, you know, this person who's been

00:39:12.030 --> 00:39:15.269
a friend along the way, like a Jeremy Piven.

00:39:15.530 --> 00:39:18.989
Okay. Jeremy Piven, the friend, Jeremy Piven.

00:39:19.030 --> 00:39:21.849
Who is an unlikely friend, but there's your comic

00:39:21.849 --> 00:39:23.489
relief right there. Because I've been thinking

00:39:23.489 --> 00:39:26.050
about the goods, live free or sell hard or whatever.

00:39:26.679 --> 00:39:29.059
Forever. And I think Jeremy Pittman is so funny.

00:39:29.340 --> 00:39:32.539
As the friend? Yeah, but he can play... There's

00:39:32.539 --> 00:39:34.619
a lot of movies, we can't list them here, where

00:39:34.619 --> 00:39:39.199
he's quite serious. And he's fucking great. Judgment

00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:43.539
Night being one of them. So I imagine as somebody

00:39:43.539 --> 00:39:46.099
who's been there along the way, but then steps

00:39:46.099 --> 00:39:50.639
up as this... As having these gifts. And maybe

00:39:50.639 --> 00:39:55.300
was once the recipient himself. And that gets

00:39:55.300 --> 00:39:58.219
us out of the whole... Like, there's just suspension

00:39:58.219 --> 00:40:00.880
of disbelief, but whatever. All right. And so,

00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:03.679
again, like with a lot of things, like, you know,

00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:07.599
it takes some convincing. With previous movies,

00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:10.099
the person just has to, like, realize they're

00:40:10.099 --> 00:40:13.960
out of their life. But he needs to know that

00:40:13.960 --> 00:40:15.719
he is able to make these choices. So he's having

00:40:15.719 --> 00:40:18.960
a midlife crisis. Yeah. And then we're retelling

00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:21.599
his midlife crisis from old age is what you're

00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:25.190
saying. Yeah. But again, the idea is. His friend

00:40:25.190 --> 00:40:27.929
has saved him from doing a really bad thing that

00:40:27.929 --> 00:40:32.809
he knows just somehow. And so he convinces him,

00:40:33.010 --> 00:40:36.829
I have the power to give you the chance to go

00:40:36.829 --> 00:40:41.170
back and relive four moments of your life with

00:40:41.170 --> 00:40:43.610
everything you know now. All your perspective,

00:40:44.050 --> 00:40:46.489
all of your knowledge. I feel like you could

00:40:46.489 --> 00:40:49.730
do it with a sci -fi twist of almost total recall,

00:40:49.949 --> 00:40:52.570
like it's a drug or it's this government thing.

00:40:52.610 --> 00:40:56.280
Oh, fascinating. yeah fascinating yeah i feel

00:40:56.280 --> 00:40:57.800
like that's the way you'd have to do it where

00:40:57.800 --> 00:41:00.360
like there's this thing that lets you go back

00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:02.539
into your mind and kind of rewrite the stuff

00:41:02.539 --> 00:41:04.599
and like he's telling it as a man who's actually

00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:07.019
survived it it's like you get to decide can't

00:41:07.019 --> 00:41:10.300
we just do it with just and again i forget why

00:41:10.300 --> 00:41:13.199
some of these are there's like no explanation

00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:16.119
in some of these movies yeah and it's not explained

00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:20.000
as religious it's just like magic yeah that's

00:41:20.720 --> 00:41:23.380
Does it bother you that it might not have an

00:41:23.380 --> 00:41:26.800
exact origin story of why Jeremy Piven can do

00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:31.820
this? Other than just because? Yeah. I mean,

00:41:31.860 --> 00:41:35.980
you could say if it's sci -fi or fantasy. But

00:41:35.980 --> 00:41:42.269
it's a fantasy for sure. and maybe we table like

00:41:42.269 --> 00:41:45.650
you find out why okay but and there's there can

00:41:45.650 --> 00:41:47.929
be fun and like convincing that this is real

00:41:47.929 --> 00:41:50.849
this is so it turns out that yeah so he has to

00:41:50.849 --> 00:41:54.750
try the first one so let me run this by so the

00:41:54.750 --> 00:41:57.050
the idea that just hit me is what if it's like

00:41:57.050 --> 00:41:59.960
him telling it from his deathbed And we don't

00:41:59.960 --> 00:42:02.400
find that out to the very end. Like him telling

00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:04.880
it around the story is him like coping and like

00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:07.739
actually making like the last decision. But still

00:42:07.739 --> 00:42:09.780
telling a group of people you don't know who

00:42:09.780 --> 00:42:11.460
they are. But like it turns out they're all standing

00:42:11.460 --> 00:42:15.639
around his deathbed. And you could still use

00:42:15.639 --> 00:42:18.500
William H. Macy maybe in the last thing he decides

00:42:18.500 --> 00:42:22.260
to change, right? Yeah. So like young Paul Newman.

00:42:23.039 --> 00:42:25.599
He gets to do three of the four things. William

00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:29.679
H. Macy, as is, or under less prosthetics, does

00:42:29.679 --> 00:42:32.800
the last thing. Yeah. That's rad. I can see that.

00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:36.739
This is fun. We might end on a sad, happy note,

00:42:36.820 --> 00:42:39.860
but bittersweet's okay. Do you remember how we

00:42:39.860 --> 00:42:43.840
ended our romance? Just a little bit. A little

00:42:43.840 --> 00:42:46.219
bitter, a little sweet. I mean, the poster was

00:42:46.219 --> 00:42:51.570
like the melanoma. Yeah. Already. I don't know

00:42:51.570 --> 00:42:54.570
if we can even go lower than that. That's rough.

00:42:54.849 --> 00:42:58.489
All right. This is really fun. So if it's a traditional

00:42:58.489 --> 00:43:03.429
family movie, there needs to be a family dynamic

00:43:03.429 --> 00:43:06.250
of some sort, maybe traditional or otherwise.

00:43:06.389 --> 00:43:09.849
So do you want to approach a traditional female

00:43:09.849 --> 00:43:13.329
lead for young Paul Newman that, again, just

00:43:13.329 --> 00:43:17.989
can be of any sort, any person, any... Do you

00:43:17.989 --> 00:43:19.690
have any recommendations? Yeah. Any recommendations?

00:43:19.690 --> 00:43:21.250
Because we're having fun. We are. Yeah. Because

00:43:21.250 --> 00:43:23.010
we could be loose with it. We can pick anybody

00:43:23.010 --> 00:43:25.530
from anywhere. Well, again, Paul Newman is pretty

00:43:25.530 --> 00:43:29.230
serious. He's pretty, you know, even when he's

00:43:29.230 --> 00:43:33.010
loose, he's pretty serious. Do you need somebody?

00:43:33.050 --> 00:43:35.590
I think you need a really strong actor in this

00:43:35.590 --> 00:43:39.530
position who can really. Gravitas? Are we looking

00:43:39.530 --> 00:43:42.469
for like. I think that would be rad. Okay. Somebody

00:43:42.469 --> 00:43:45.250
big. Somebody who really does bring a lot to

00:43:45.250 --> 00:43:50.349
it. Can be seen as an equal, maybe not a love

00:43:50.349 --> 00:43:53.190
lost, but like somebody who like is important

00:43:53.190 --> 00:43:55.949
to him, but really. I think an old school, new

00:43:55.949 --> 00:43:58.650
school. Give me a, give me a. I'm wondering if

00:43:58.650 --> 00:44:00.530
it's not new school because that's more fun to

00:44:00.530 --> 00:44:03.869
me. I would like to suggest Dame Judi Dench.

00:44:04.510 --> 00:44:08.690
In her prime? In her prime. Oh my God. Yes. I

00:44:08.690 --> 00:44:11.550
feel like she would hold her own as the mother

00:44:11.550 --> 00:44:14.610
figure. So we're doing a traditional family.

00:44:14.610 --> 00:44:20.679
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Awesome. I love it. Do we use

00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:23.940
the accent as a part of the story? I think we

00:44:23.940 --> 00:44:28.179
could. Okay. Cool. All right. I love it. We do

00:44:28.179 --> 00:44:33.320
not. All right. So we have some basic ideas of

00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:35.300
this. This is cool. I love that the last group

00:44:35.300 --> 00:44:38.159
of people is unknown. Yeah. Could be family.

00:44:38.239 --> 00:44:41.579
Could be a board. Because do you like the idea

00:44:41.579 --> 00:44:44.059
of setting him up as a businessy person? Yeah.

00:44:44.099 --> 00:44:46.630
Yeah. Business, business, business, success,

00:44:46.789 --> 00:44:50.929
piles of money, cool car. Do you have an idea

00:44:50.929 --> 00:44:56.530
or an industry that is fun for young Paul Newman

00:44:56.530 --> 00:45:01.750
-ish to be in? That's exciting to think about,

00:45:01.849 --> 00:45:04.590
exciting to write about, like finances, like

00:45:04.590 --> 00:45:07.699
things that... Do you want him to be a particularly

00:45:07.699 --> 00:45:11.400
wealthy person or maybe more middle class identifiable?

00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:14.179
I think he should be a traveling salesman. He's

00:45:14.179 --> 00:45:18.960
always on the move. Somebody who has a job. Somebody

00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:22.860
who's in logistics. It's kind of funny because

00:45:22.860 --> 00:45:28.219
what they do is moving things around. I know

00:45:28.219 --> 00:45:30.320
somebody in logistics and I think logistics are

00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:36.269
fucking fascinating. If one boat stops, Hotels

00:45:36.269 --> 00:45:38.670
don't get their renovation furniture. You know

00:45:38.670 --> 00:45:40.449
what I mean? Everything. Everything's connected

00:45:40.449 --> 00:45:43.429
to something. You're only seven steps from Kevin

00:45:43.429 --> 00:45:45.489
Bacon. It's apparently very stressful. Not throwing

00:45:45.489 --> 00:45:48.730
shade, but shit. All right. I like that idea.

00:45:48.949 --> 00:45:55.510
And the inciting incident is having worked up

00:45:55.510 --> 00:46:00.820
to, and that's identifiable. it goes nowhere

00:46:00.820 --> 00:46:04.619
it has he's not fired but something the job has

00:46:04.619 --> 00:46:08.219
ended yeah and something his friend just very

00:46:08.219 --> 00:46:10.400
much i'm gonna go with this other firm or what

00:46:10.400 --> 00:46:14.139
have you and he's like i need to stop you right

00:46:14.139 --> 00:46:15.860
now this is killing you or something to that

00:46:15.860 --> 00:46:17.980
effect like this is not what you signed up for

00:46:17.980 --> 00:46:21.079
and then they have the discussion okay you know

00:46:21.079 --> 00:46:22.719
and i've been your friend for a long time but

00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:24.980
i need to disclose this and he whips out his

00:46:24.980 --> 00:46:29.960
magical weird genitalia and it's cubed I'm just

00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:33.699
glowing. It's cute. Cubed and glowing genitalia.

00:46:33.719 --> 00:46:35.559
That'd freak you out. Does that too much in a

00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:37.000
family film? I feel like that might be too much.

00:46:37.019 --> 00:46:38.880
But it's very sci -fi. I don't think Disney will

00:46:38.880 --> 00:46:41.940
let you do it. It's only alluded. It's like the

00:46:41.940 --> 00:46:44.599
shots from the chest up. It's like, all right,

00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:48.320
I have glowing cubed genitals. And he's like,

00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:50.019
we've been showering together since high school.

00:46:50.099 --> 00:46:55.539
And he's like, we hit puberty at 30. No, I don't

00:46:55.539 --> 00:46:56.900
think we're that fast. And then he's like, wah.

00:46:57.739 --> 00:47:01.130
And he's like. All right. Jeremy Piven can hold

00:47:01.130 --> 00:47:03.429
that. Yeah, everything's Shakespeare for him.

00:47:03.769 --> 00:47:07.530
All right. Glowing cubed genitals are out. Yeah,

00:47:07.570 --> 00:47:10.269
I'm going to axe that one, I think. That feels

00:47:10.269 --> 00:47:12.489
like a very different movie. That feels like

00:47:12.489 --> 00:47:15.789
one of those things, like the musician contracts,

00:47:15.989 --> 00:47:18.449
like, did you read the contract? It was like,

00:47:18.489 --> 00:47:20.389
no, I didn't read that. There's a song titled

00:47:20.389 --> 00:47:24.050
Cubed Genitals. It's got its own theme song.

00:47:24.170 --> 00:47:26.269
Yeah, what? When he does the reveal, it's got

00:47:26.269 --> 00:47:29.010
like a reveal song. It's neon green, I'm telling

00:47:29.010 --> 00:47:31.389
you. It's going to be cool. James Gunn is directing

00:47:31.389 --> 00:47:33.590
this. You're going to love it, I'm telling you

00:47:33.590 --> 00:47:37.019
guys. Holy fuck. Never heard of him. He's about

00:47:37.019 --> 00:47:38.920
to do the Avengers or something. Do you have

00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:41.480
a director in mind? James Gunn. You want James

00:47:41.480 --> 00:47:43.340
Gunn to make this movie? Early James Gunn. Like

00:47:43.340 --> 00:47:45.800
Slytherin. Like Slytherin, like the superhero

00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:51.059
with Ryan Wilson. Because I know he can do the

00:47:51.059 --> 00:47:53.039
suite. I know he can do the soundtrack would

00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:57.380
be amazing. Not necessarily written because I

00:47:57.380 --> 00:47:59.539
think writing, I think we should dig a little

00:47:59.539 --> 00:48:03.840
harder, but yeah, I think indie. okay you're

00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:07.420
feeling you're feeling very low budget yeah absolutely

00:48:07.420 --> 00:48:12.320
okay um so the idea that he is given this opportunity

00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:15.599
let's say and we know that so for for story's

00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:18.780
sake we've got 29 minutes uh what are the moments

00:48:18.780 --> 00:48:22.119
that he decides to go back to all right so in

00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:24.059
my head i'm imagining like if he's on his deathbed

00:48:24.059 --> 00:48:27.800
and he's getting to relive or slash change his

00:48:27.800 --> 00:48:30.679
uh his moments i feel like if it's a drug administered

00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:34.260
like They're kind of inception. I think it doesn't

00:48:34.260 --> 00:48:37.420
have to be that. It's just magical realism. But

00:48:37.420 --> 00:48:41.300
the idea is once you start the journey, there's

00:48:41.300 --> 00:48:45.780
no stopping. You go from one moment to the next.

00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:48.980
You don't get to see the aftermath. You just

00:48:48.980 --> 00:48:51.340
get to behave differently. I think you definitely

00:48:51.340 --> 00:48:53.679
get to start with childhood bully. I feel like

00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:57.300
that's pretty easy. Low fruit to grab, but I

00:48:57.300 --> 00:49:00.849
feel like it's a pivotal one to grab. After that,

00:49:00.969 --> 00:49:06.590
definitely First Love. And it's not Dame Judi

00:49:06.590 --> 00:49:09.630
Dench or it is? Good question. Maybe it's not.

00:49:09.769 --> 00:49:11.949
Maybe it's not, but it doesn't necessarily mean

00:49:11.949 --> 00:49:14.750
because, I mean. Because they're being honest.

00:49:15.010 --> 00:49:17.809
Yeah. And he's like, you know, the thing is you

00:49:17.809 --> 00:49:22.309
just have to bet on the outcome. Yeah. Yeah.

00:49:22.610 --> 00:49:25.150
The last reasonable person. First Love, not Dame

00:49:25.150 --> 00:49:28.369
Judi Dench. Not. I mean, what a fucking shocker.

00:49:28.409 --> 00:49:31.789
Let's be real here. He's got a secret, yo, because

00:49:31.789 --> 00:49:34.789
clearly is she at the end? Dame Judi Dench is

00:49:34.789 --> 00:49:37.010
at the end and not the person that we see. Yeah.

00:49:37.010 --> 00:49:38.869
Yeah. Dame Judi Dench. And then everybody's like,

00:49:38.929 --> 00:49:42.170
oh, no. Turns out his real love. Okay. First

00:49:42.170 --> 00:49:49.840
love, not DJD. Anything. job -related. Maybe

00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:52.519
I should have asked for more money. I should

00:49:52.519 --> 00:49:54.579
have stood up for myself in this situation. Yeah,

00:49:54.579 --> 00:49:55.940
definitely needs to stick up for himself. Something

00:49:55.940 --> 00:49:58.099
kind of mundane, because this is his last one,

00:49:58.119 --> 00:50:00.119
FYI. I think the big one... So Paul Newman's

00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:02.960
last. I think the big one is he, much like Click,

00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:05.579
should have fought for family time, realized

00:50:05.579 --> 00:50:09.480
at the end. Oh, yeah. I think all of this should

00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:11.860
lead to that, for sure. Even Scarface is like,

00:50:11.980 --> 00:50:14.860
he got everything he ever wanted, and then at

00:50:14.860 --> 00:50:16.900
the very end... I'm fixated on this first love

00:50:16.900 --> 00:50:21.429
thing. What a scandal. What a scandal. Because

00:50:21.429 --> 00:50:25.769
he's like, it's just us. Yeah. Oh, I love it.

00:50:26.010 --> 00:50:32.190
So the third thing, is it potentially money related?

00:50:32.309 --> 00:50:34.349
Because he thinks it won't end the way it just

00:50:34.349 --> 00:50:37.570
ended if he makes a different choice relating

00:50:37.570 --> 00:50:41.989
to a job. Yeah, maybe. So he's job related and

00:50:41.989 --> 00:50:46.880
it won't end the way it just does. So now. Maybe

00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:49.199
like much like in today's age where they're like

00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:51.199
AI this and AI that, we're going to phase everything

00:50:51.199 --> 00:50:53.440
out. It's like he's freaking out because things

00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:58.440
change. And a lot of it, well, so with the first

00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:02.239
love, we don't have things that are necessarily

00:51:02.239 --> 00:51:05.300
about confrontation, let's say. Just maybe is

00:51:05.300 --> 00:51:08.400
it about being smarter, being wittier? Because

00:51:08.400 --> 00:51:11.480
what's the real thing when you think like you,

00:51:11.559 --> 00:51:17.769
Logan? Not necessarily as young Paul Newman,

00:51:17.889 --> 00:51:20.409
YPN. No, no, that's what you got to think of.

00:51:20.510 --> 00:51:23.829
What is, if you think about going back and confronting

00:51:23.829 --> 00:51:27.269
a childhood bully, is it just because maybe you

00:51:27.269 --> 00:51:30.210
think you can fight better? Because again, you

00:51:30.210 --> 00:51:32.090
may not have your strength in this situation,

00:51:32.190 --> 00:51:34.530
but you have your knowledge. So you've seen more

00:51:34.530 --> 00:51:37.170
movies. You know you can out -karate this person.

00:51:37.329 --> 00:51:40.210
Is it about that or is it about you want to tear

00:51:40.210 --> 00:51:42.769
this person down with your mind and your mouth?

00:51:42.969 --> 00:51:47.889
I think the idea is that you personally want

00:51:47.889 --> 00:51:50.150
to change the outcomes and regardless of the

00:51:50.150 --> 00:51:53.469
outcome that might have, you're like, I'd rather

00:51:53.469 --> 00:51:55.710
go down that road and find out. I might not win

00:51:55.710 --> 00:51:58.610
this fight. Fight or not. But having not picked

00:51:58.610 --> 00:52:03.230
the fight is something I regret. Somebody's like,

00:52:03.559 --> 00:52:05.320
I don't know. I never fought my childhood bully,

00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:08.000
so that's bothered me my whole life because they

00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:11.380
never thought maybe they might die. It's a possibility,

00:52:11.679 --> 00:52:14.760
but it's like going back as an adult and be like,

00:52:14.860 --> 00:52:16.960
hey, if I just confronted this thing, this thing

00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:19.480
I feared, I might have been a better person for

00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:21.440
it. What if in this scenario, he picked the fight

00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:26.320
with the bully? What if he was the bully? Sorry,

00:52:26.380 --> 00:52:30.619
did I stun you? By perception, you're like, oh,

00:52:30.619 --> 00:52:33.960
he realizes he was the bully. Yeah, I like that

00:52:33.960 --> 00:52:37.280
turnabout. I mean, much like the Karate Kid,

00:52:37.380 --> 00:52:39.920
like, again, with this perspective. Well, actually,

00:52:40.000 --> 00:52:42.019
I might lean in on this one. Like, I like that

00:52:42.019 --> 00:52:45.380
he later on finds that he really fucked up this

00:52:45.380 --> 00:52:47.940
kid, you know? So he does lean in on the bully.

00:52:48.340 --> 00:52:50.619
And it's not like the bully's getting beat at

00:52:50.619 --> 00:52:53.179
home. What I think people forget is kids are

00:52:53.179 --> 00:52:55.500
ruthless, and they don't know their own power.

00:52:55.679 --> 00:52:57.659
Yeah. They don't understand, because how can

00:52:57.659 --> 00:53:00.690
they? Because... as an adult you have the capacity

00:53:00.690 --> 00:53:02.670
to look back on your life and be like I can make

00:53:02.670 --> 00:53:05.150
better decisions but when you're like I don't

00:53:05.150 --> 00:53:07.949
know say under the age of 18 yeah 18 laps around

00:53:07.949 --> 00:53:10.070
the sun is not very many laps to be like I have

00:53:10.070 --> 00:53:12.809
enough capacity to actually draw on events to

00:53:12.809 --> 00:53:15.510
be like I make good decisions right say you inherently

00:53:15.510 --> 00:53:18.090
make bad decisions just it's tough to have life

00:53:18.090 --> 00:53:21.440
value to draw on And so you'll say things and

00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:24.039
then you'll change and be like five years later,

00:53:24.099 --> 00:53:25.719
you're back. Oh, wow. I should not have said

00:53:25.719 --> 00:53:28.119
that thing because you realize how hurtful and

00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:30.420
terrible that is. Yeah. I'll walk into the well

00:53:30.420 --> 00:53:34.239
on this. I'll say the idea is you go back, you

00:53:34.239 --> 00:53:36.940
confront a fourth grade bully and you verbally

00:53:36.940 --> 00:53:39.800
decimate them. And you're like, ha ha, took care

00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:43.159
of that. Like it prevented the fight. You felt

00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:45.820
that everybody's like, yeah, that moment. But

00:53:45.820 --> 00:53:51.039
what you didn't know is your use. of your current

00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:54.280
vernacular, the normal kid just couldn't cope

00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:56.159
with and kills himself. That's what you find

00:53:56.159 --> 00:53:58.800
out at the end. Brutal. Not that they were being

00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:01.880
beat. It was just a bully, but what you did was

00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:06.219
so hard that they couldn't reconcile it, and

00:54:06.219 --> 00:54:07.780
it drove them nuts, and they killed themselves.

00:54:08.500 --> 00:54:10.440
Because that's everybody's thing. They want to

00:54:10.440 --> 00:54:12.780
go back and just step into that verbal confrontation

00:54:12.780 --> 00:54:15.019
with all your great knowledge now. Everybody

00:54:15.019 --> 00:54:19.849
wants a slam dunk on somebody. cute but what

00:54:19.849 --> 00:54:22.010
if you're like oh fuck how did that like how

00:54:22.010 --> 00:54:25.090
did it actually that was insane like how did

00:54:25.090 --> 00:54:26.989
it was like a different person i swear it was

00:54:26.989 --> 00:54:29.769
like a demon because you would maybe seem like

00:54:29.769 --> 00:54:32.170
a demon if all of a sudden you just were like

00:54:32.170 --> 00:54:34.989
all right i'm gonna walk into this you've planned

00:54:34.989 --> 00:54:38.789
it you know what i mean is walking into his memory

00:54:38.789 --> 00:54:41.230
seeing all this from a new light is that well

00:54:41.230 --> 00:54:44.510
i mean yeah but he i think that's part of the

00:54:44.510 --> 00:54:47.630
thing he gets a debrief sometime before this

00:54:48.409 --> 00:54:51.630
He knows all these results. This is all part

00:54:51.630 --> 00:54:54.329
of the thing. He's sharing this. Little did I

00:54:54.329 --> 00:54:56.550
know. Little did I know what I was actually signing

00:54:56.550 --> 00:54:59.590
up for. This little kid's brain could not deal

00:54:59.590 --> 00:55:02.389
with it. He could share with his parents, but

00:55:02.389 --> 00:55:04.550
at the time, nobody shared shit with their parents.

00:55:04.690 --> 00:55:07.150
Turns out, I got the slam dunk, but at what price?

00:55:08.530 --> 00:55:10.909
The last reasonable person, but at what price?

00:55:11.150 --> 00:55:14.769
At what price? Is that our tagline? I'm writing

00:55:14.769 --> 00:55:18.090
that down. dang see you walk right well it's

00:55:18.090 --> 00:55:21.969
a family movie so we hopefully do we it's heavy

00:55:21.969 --> 00:55:25.130
it's yeah it's a family drama honestly the more

00:55:25.130 --> 00:55:27.929
you were saying this i was like This feels real

00:55:27.929 --> 00:55:29.889
heavy and real heady. And I was like, I don't

00:55:29.889 --> 00:55:31.289
know if anybody's bringing their kids to see

00:55:31.289 --> 00:55:33.449
this movie where somebody verbally abuses their

00:55:33.449 --> 00:55:35.650
bully and the bully commits suicide. As much

00:55:35.650 --> 00:55:38.110
as I want to see that movie. All right. The bully

00:55:38.110 --> 00:55:41.309
becomes a motivational speaker fueled by their

00:55:41.309 --> 00:55:43.309
love for the knowledge of the words that they

00:55:43.309 --> 00:55:45.289
just heard. Oh, okay. Is that what it is? You

00:55:45.289 --> 00:55:47.690
could turn it around easily. And that person

00:55:47.690 --> 00:55:52.789
today became a successful James Gunn. So James

00:55:52.789 --> 00:55:55.030
Gunn for sure. with the needle that's what i

00:55:55.030 --> 00:55:56.670
threw out that's what you threw out there i don't

00:55:56.670 --> 00:55:58.730
know if james gunn as much as i want to say james

00:55:58.730 --> 00:56:01.869
gunn who writes who else who else come on it

00:56:01.869 --> 00:56:03.969
feels very drama filled and not say james gunn

00:56:03.969 --> 00:56:07.570
can't do that i don't think that and i don't

00:56:07.570 --> 00:56:13.130
know again it feels sci -fi yeah it feels do

00:56:13.130 --> 00:56:15.369
you want the whimsy or do we want this darker

00:56:15.369 --> 00:56:17.190
i think there should be there should be humor

00:56:17.190 --> 00:56:19.449
there should definitely be humor he's going back

00:56:19.449 --> 00:56:23.340
first not being yeah Dame Judi Dench is pretty

00:56:23.340 --> 00:56:25.719
funny. I think that should be some humor. That's

00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:27.519
definitely got to be a comedic bit. The bully

00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:31.639
could be fun. Again, seeing a little kid articulate

00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:35.699
like a 50 -year -old without using swears or

00:56:35.699 --> 00:56:41.440
whatever. Using new words. Because he's going

00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:44.300
back in time, he's actually the progenitor of

00:56:44.300 --> 00:56:46.559
these slang words that the future kids are saying.

00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:50.079
Yeah, and it could be those kind of things, but

00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:52.920
it's just we're picking moments where I think

00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:55.659
a mass group of people would identify with. All

00:56:55.659 --> 00:56:57.619
right. I'd love to take another swing at that

00:56:57.619 --> 00:57:00.340
moment. Okay. With everything I got now. Just,

00:57:00.420 --> 00:57:03.599
hey, with all the things I got, I'm going to

00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:05.780
do it better. Everything that you have now is

00:57:05.780 --> 00:57:08.480
a sum total of all the choices that you previously

00:57:08.480 --> 00:57:12.500
made. You know what I mean? So at the end. So

00:57:12.500 --> 00:57:14.300
he's the last reasonable person and everybody's

00:57:14.300 --> 00:57:15.619
like, what do you mean? They don't want him to

00:57:15.619 --> 00:57:17.000
do this. And he's like, no, no, no. I'm going

00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:19.360
to do this because it needs to be done. Is that

00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:21.539
what it is? Oh, well, I'm interested in what

00:57:21.539 --> 00:57:24.400
you think William H. Macy. So we have these do

00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:28.340
-overs. We've not landed on what happens with

00:57:28.340 --> 00:57:31.619
this childhood bully situation. First love, clearly,

00:57:31.619 --> 00:57:34.139
because when you're going to these flash forwards,

00:57:34.400 --> 00:57:37.840
Dame Judi Dench is in the room. Yeah, it turns

00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:40.099
out that was his first wife and she died in an

00:57:40.099 --> 00:57:42.099
accident or something. You don't know. And then

00:57:42.099 --> 00:57:46.179
this job decision. And in either way, you know,

00:57:46.199 --> 00:57:48.019
you could have Jeremy Piven there as his light

00:57:48.019 --> 00:57:50.400
childhood friend. So he's, you know, that's how

00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:52.139
you kind of put him in the background of these

00:57:52.139 --> 00:57:54.860
scenes. Yeah, always kind of there. This is why

00:57:54.860 --> 00:57:58.059
there's trust in this. What's going on is fine.

00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:00.360
I'll try whatever, you know, so he's desperate.

00:58:00.480 --> 00:58:02.980
He will try. I'll try anything. So we come to

00:58:02.980 --> 00:58:06.340
the fourth thing. And this is a, you know, a

00:58:06.340 --> 00:58:11.000
later on his deathbed. Well, no, like this is

00:58:11.000 --> 00:58:15.659
quite. Yeah. I mean, late, clearly later after

00:58:15.659 --> 00:58:18.960
job success or failure, you never know. Well,

00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:21.059
what's another kind of do over that he could

00:58:21.059 --> 00:58:24.940
have later? Maybe Dame Judi Dench is in the picture.

00:58:25.139 --> 00:58:27.579
Yeah. Maybe this is where we find out like he,

00:58:27.699 --> 00:58:31.420
his first love and him fall out of love. Well,

00:58:31.500 --> 00:58:34.820
I like the idea that he. He tries to make a different

00:58:34.820 --> 00:58:39.460
situation. Yeah. What kind of situation? Okay.

00:58:39.519 --> 00:58:41.659
Interesting. Yeah. Does he fall in love with

00:58:41.659 --> 00:58:43.760
his first love? I'm running into narrative challenges

00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:50.239
because he's got three and he's starting as old

00:58:50.239 --> 00:58:52.300
man William H. Macy. He's got four different

00:58:52.300 --> 00:58:56.559
things. And again, he's young Paul Newman. Yes.

00:58:57.039 --> 00:59:01.300
Going back. Sorry. We can't have old William

00:59:01.300 --> 00:59:04.969
H. Macy in. Any of the flashback -y stuff. No.

00:59:05.110 --> 00:59:07.090
So it's all got to be Paul Newman stuff. Yeah.

00:59:07.110 --> 00:59:09.849
Okay. Until the very end. All right. So the fourth

00:59:09.849 --> 00:59:12.409
thing can't be William H. Macy. It's got to be

00:59:12.409 --> 00:59:15.989
young Paul Newman. So after the job, what's the

00:59:15.989 --> 00:59:18.989
fourth thing that he decides? The fourth situation.

00:59:19.070 --> 00:59:22.170
The fourth that he decides to come back with

00:59:22.170 --> 00:59:24.369
all of his current knowledge and all of his current

00:59:24.369 --> 00:59:27.030
what -have -you that he's going to take another.

00:59:27.230 --> 00:59:29.750
And the idea, this is like Yahtzee. Yeah. Not

00:59:29.750 --> 00:59:32.840
really. But the idea is if he re -rolls the dice

00:59:32.840 --> 00:59:37.599
on these four things, then he thinks his life

00:59:37.599 --> 00:59:40.079
is going to be infinitely better. It could always

00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:43.719
be that maybe he himself didn't have the best

00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:47.079
family growing up. I don't know. Oh, there's

00:59:47.079 --> 00:59:49.840
a surprise one where as a kid, he decides to

00:59:49.840 --> 00:59:53.320
say a nice thing to his dad. Yeah, yeah. very

00:59:53.320 --> 00:59:55.420
much like so that's the last one yeah like save

00:59:55.420 --> 00:59:57.179
that for last yeah you save that one for last

00:59:57.179 --> 00:59:59.860
i'm in tears right now yeah like his he finally

00:59:59.860 --> 01:00:01.780
gets an i love you from his dad who never said

01:00:01.780 --> 01:00:05.079
no no he would have to be him right making a

01:00:05.079 --> 01:00:09.079
decision yeah and he decides to like give his

01:00:09.079 --> 01:00:11.159
dad some encouragement in a time or something

01:00:11.159 --> 01:00:15.500
yeah dad and cur like when he just blew him off

01:00:15.500 --> 01:00:19.159
yeah you don't realize you don't realize how

01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:21.900
much Time's precious. Yeah. And with writing,

01:00:22.039 --> 01:00:24.039
you can, you know, like, like, and these are

01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:26.800
all interesting because you get a bunch and you

01:00:26.800 --> 01:00:29.159
get to like disarm people with the first three.

01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:33.300
Yeah. Bully. Yeah. First love. Yeah. Job. And

01:00:33.300 --> 01:00:36.400
then, oh shit. Go back to seven and be like,

01:00:36.519 --> 01:00:41.500
or 13. Okay. And be like, you know, good luck

01:00:41.500 --> 01:00:44.579
in that thing, dad. Yeah. Because you forget,

01:00:44.659 --> 01:00:46.800
you know, he has a family. Yeah, you forget.

01:00:47.059 --> 01:00:48.920
You know, and there's people around him. So,

01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:52.280
okay, we have 17 minutes. Lots of time. Going

01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:55.519
to the end, the people around him, are they,

01:00:55.679 --> 01:00:59.219
do you assume they're... I would make it his

01:00:59.219 --> 01:01:01.699
whole family. Okay, because you could film it

01:01:01.699 --> 01:01:05.780
in a way that it's the board, and you assume

01:01:05.780 --> 01:01:10.099
that the move he makes to help his... is very

01:01:10.099 --> 01:01:12.920
successful because, again, what he ultimately

01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:16.619
wants, you have to set up is success in his job.

01:01:17.179 --> 01:01:20.119
Okay. And, you know, he realizes along the way

01:01:20.119 --> 01:01:22.239
that he's neglected the family part, blah, blah,

01:01:22.239 --> 01:01:25.960
blah, right? But... He reveals to the board all

01:01:25.960 --> 01:01:27.860
the things he would have changed. So the idea

01:01:27.860 --> 01:01:30.340
is you could be filming this flash -forward bit

01:01:30.340 --> 01:01:33.280
in a way and you see these people that you don't

01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:35.099
know really at all. Could it be a board meeting

01:01:35.099 --> 01:01:39.480
or is it a family... You show a bunch of people

01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:40.719
in business casuals. But I like the idea that

01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:45.219
it's the family. Is it a fantasy space world

01:01:45.219 --> 01:01:49.940
to where it's like mom and dad are clearly happily

01:01:49.940 --> 01:01:53.619
alive. They're holograms. They're all holograms.

01:01:53.639 --> 01:01:58.019
Floating in the back. He's the last living. Again,

01:01:58.739 --> 01:02:01.840
I'm hooked on the first love not being Dame Judi

01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:04.920
Dench. Just from a writing standpoint, you can

01:02:04.920 --> 01:02:08.559
have this like... I have a director only because

01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:10.599
I feel like it's... Oh, yeah. Sorry. We got drama.

01:02:10.860 --> 01:02:13.500
Not to say that James Gunn couldn't do it. I

01:02:13.500 --> 01:02:15.860
just don't know if it's quite the voice I want.

01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:20.219
Facing the drama part of it, I don't know if

01:02:20.219 --> 01:02:22.880
it hits the fantasy whimsy that we might be after.

01:02:23.019 --> 01:02:26.400
Maybe potentially. Maybe more subtle. I'm going

01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:30.320
to nominate Clint Eastwood. Oh, geez, Louise.

01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:33.880
Just, I feel like... It's heavy. Heavy. It's

01:02:33.880 --> 01:02:36.000
heavy enough that he could do it. What period?

01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:41.639
Ooh, definitely, I would say, an unforgiving

01:02:41.639 --> 01:02:44.300
time frame. Like, right, late 90s, like, yeah,

01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:47.739
him taking over right around there. Wow. Yeah.

01:02:47.900 --> 01:02:50.360
That's interesting. I think him doing it then,

01:02:50.559 --> 01:02:55.320
yeah. This feels pretty indie. Yeah, I don't

01:02:55.320 --> 01:02:58.099
know. And he could shoot it that way. Yeah, he

01:02:58.099 --> 01:02:59.380
could definitely shoot it that way. He would

01:02:59.380 --> 01:03:01.500
definitely shoot it pretty cinematically, too.

01:03:01.619 --> 01:03:07.579
It would be pretty grandiose, I feel. I'm thinking

01:03:07.579 --> 01:03:12.260
of somebody he did The Perks of Being a Wallflower.

01:03:12.280 --> 01:03:13.980
Oh, yeah. Did you ever see that? I did see that.

01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:17.179
Stephen Chbosky. I could see that movie being

01:03:17.179 --> 01:03:19.559
very similar. Did you see him doing it? I could

01:03:19.559 --> 01:03:24.570
see it. And I think he wrote that, too. I mean,

01:03:24.670 --> 01:03:28.650
we could ease out on another writer, director,

01:03:28.750 --> 01:03:34.389
but who did, and I should know this, who did

01:03:34.389 --> 01:03:38.090
Sideways? That one I could not tell you off the

01:03:38.090 --> 01:03:40.090
top of the head. Have you seen Sideways? I have

01:03:40.090 --> 01:03:43.269
not. You haven't seen Sideways? No, who did it?

01:03:43.309 --> 01:03:45.989
Alexander Payne. Alexander Payne, all right.

01:03:48.050 --> 01:03:53.690
You know, he did Election. uh nebraska the descendants

01:03:53.690 --> 01:03:59.090
okay he's the one he's the one yeah okay and

01:03:59.090 --> 01:04:02.329
i think maybe because i think it's a little too

01:04:02.329 --> 01:04:08.989
hardcore for clint eastwood it's maybe a little

01:04:08.989 --> 01:04:11.769
little it's close but not quite his track is

01:04:11.769 --> 01:04:15.289
what you're saying yeah so like like directed

01:04:15.289 --> 01:04:17.969
by alexander pain because i think he could handle

01:04:17.969 --> 01:04:21.199
the sci -fi and I don't know why. I just think

01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:25.099
he could. And then Stephen Chbosky writes it.

01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:28.139
Okay. You get that kind of awkward family dynamic

01:04:28.139 --> 01:04:32.980
and just, okay, I can see that. I'm down. It

01:04:32.980 --> 01:04:34.559
feels like we're definitely going to have some

01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:37.760
awkward comedy in this. Some growing up comedy.

01:04:37.980 --> 01:04:41.320
Death at a funeral. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like we

01:04:41.320 --> 01:04:43.539
definitely like to angle towards these black,

01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:46.650
dark comedies, don't we? Yes, we do. There's

01:04:46.650 --> 01:04:48.650
something to be said about the awkwardness to

01:04:48.650 --> 01:04:50.809
be like, you got to laugh in light of. Yeah.

01:04:51.090 --> 01:04:53.269
I feel like this movie is. Frank Oz did the remake

01:04:53.269 --> 01:04:56.329
of Death at a Funeral, by the way. That's an

01:04:56.329 --> 01:04:58.329
interesting choice. Should Frank Oz be our director?

01:04:58.550 --> 01:05:03.030
I feel like Frank Oz is a great director. I mean.

01:05:03.829 --> 01:05:05.570
Yeah. I kind of love Frank Oz. I actually like

01:05:05.570 --> 01:05:09.909
Alexander Payne as the writer and Frank Oz. See,

01:05:09.989 --> 01:05:11.650
you never know when you hit that eureka moment.

01:05:11.849 --> 01:05:14.150
And Frank Oz as the director. Oh, fuck yeah.

01:05:14.650 --> 01:05:17.789
Does he have a role in it? Yes. Doing any voice

01:05:17.789 --> 01:05:21.449
he wants? Absolutely. I hope it's Miss Piggy,

01:05:21.449 --> 01:05:24.210
to be honest. And I hope it's in some weird -ass

01:05:24.210 --> 01:05:26.929
flashback. There's somehow we get the Muppets

01:05:26.929 --> 01:05:29.460
in here. Okay, so in the flashback... It is a

01:05:29.460 --> 01:05:31.659
family movie. Is this a Muppets movie? Young

01:05:31.659 --> 01:05:34.420
Paul Newman. Is this a Muppets movie? Don't judge.

01:05:34.519 --> 01:05:37.059
You put that on me, Ricky Bobby. It's too hard.

01:05:37.079 --> 01:05:41.139
It might be. So Young Paul Newman can do an uncanny

01:05:41.139 --> 01:05:43.360
Miss Piggy, but the whole time it's actually

01:05:43.360 --> 01:05:47.860
voiced by Frank Oz, like in post. I like that.

01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:50.699
I just love the idea of somehow it's a Muppets

01:05:50.699 --> 01:05:52.900
movie, but we tell nobody until the last second.

01:05:52.940 --> 01:05:56.780
Because Death at a Funeral is so, I mean, the

01:05:56.780 --> 01:06:00.440
original is so good. I don't know who did the

01:06:00.440 --> 01:06:02.559
remake. I don't know. Something about Frank Oz

01:06:02.559 --> 01:06:05.599
doing this movie. Because you can handle the

01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:08.539
serious and having the comedic moments I think

01:06:08.539 --> 01:06:12.139
are important. And they could be delivered in

01:06:12.139 --> 01:06:14.199
all of these little ways. Do we have a composer

01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:18.639
in mind? Anybody that you would think would fit

01:06:18.639 --> 01:06:22.579
with the musical themes? Are we still leaning

01:06:22.579 --> 01:06:27.800
towards this kind of whimsy, dramatical? You're

01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:29.760
going to kind of have a dark edge to it. Like

01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:33.860
Danny Elfman, I feel I could do it. That's fascinating.

01:06:34.019 --> 01:06:36.179
I think that's a little dark. I'm going to go

01:06:36.179 --> 01:06:38.719
with something a little more... Lighten the mood

01:06:38.719 --> 01:06:43.179
slightly? But what's your favorite Danny Elfman

01:06:43.179 --> 01:06:46.440
movie? Like score -wise, do you have one? I couldn't

01:06:46.440 --> 01:06:49.599
even tell you off the top of the head. Batman,

01:06:49.739 --> 01:06:51.960
I will tell you, changed my life. When I saw

01:06:51.960 --> 01:06:57.380
that movie in the theater... A huge part of it

01:06:57.380 --> 01:07:00.039
was I was in from the beginning because of the

01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:03.460
soundtrack. There's something to be said about

01:07:03.460 --> 01:07:06.519
soundtracks in movies. Yeah. I would choose 100

01:07:06.519 --> 01:07:09.780
% John Barry for this. John Barry. All right.

01:07:11.739 --> 01:07:15.179
And Somewhere in Time is the movie that I'm talking

01:07:15.179 --> 01:07:17.619
about right now, which ironically stars William

01:07:17.619 --> 01:07:22.619
H. Mason. But most notably, he did Out of Africa.

01:07:23.289 --> 01:07:25.989
He's IMDb top for Out of Africa, Dances with

01:07:25.989 --> 01:07:28.710
Wolves, Living Daylights. He did a Bond film.

01:07:29.030 --> 01:07:32.050
Somewhere in Time is beautiful and filmed in

01:07:32.050 --> 01:07:33.329
northern Michigan. I will accept these terms.

01:07:33.369 --> 01:07:36.550
It sounds like a good selection. He can do the

01:07:36.550 --> 01:07:40.469
fantasy, can do the adventure, but I think this

01:07:40.469 --> 01:07:45.809
should have a phenomenal theme that really hits.

01:07:46.780 --> 01:07:49.400
That soars and gives him a moment. Some big heart

01:07:49.400 --> 01:07:51.500
swells. Like a lot of cool moments throughout.

01:07:51.579 --> 01:07:56.840
But like John Barry, 100 % is, I think would

01:07:56.840 --> 01:07:58.960
be amazing for it. For bonus points. And that's

01:07:58.960 --> 01:08:02.059
older. I get that. But, you know, started out

01:08:02.059 --> 01:08:05.800
early too. Like really early. All right. I keep

01:08:05.800 --> 01:08:09.559
forgetting he did Star Crash. King Kong 1976.

01:08:09.940 --> 01:08:12.739
Getting them all. Sounds fun. It sounds like

01:08:12.739 --> 01:08:14.559
he's got it. But up through a lot. Like, yeah,

01:08:14.659 --> 01:08:17.539
just. I don't know. He's just perfect for this

01:08:17.539 --> 01:08:20.699
because it's not just a romantic comedy. It's

01:08:20.699 --> 01:08:25.659
a broader thing. And he'd crush, I believe. Last

01:08:25.659 --> 01:08:29.439
in 2011. Well, not in our universe. It's okay.

01:08:29.560 --> 01:08:33.260
We can still get him. Yeah. We said we're going

01:08:33.260 --> 01:08:36.000
to be more untethered this time. We're going

01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:40.680
to be wild. We're going to do it wild. We've

01:08:40.680 --> 01:08:44.220
kind of been dancing around some taglines. Do

01:08:44.220 --> 01:08:46.920
you have any lines in the movie? Like, what would

01:08:46.920 --> 01:08:48.720
you like to say to a bully? What would you like

01:08:48.720 --> 01:08:54.520
to say as you ask for more money? You know? In

01:08:54.520 --> 01:08:58.140
a crude way. In a crude way? Maybe not. That's

01:08:58.140 --> 01:09:00.960
a way to put a guy on the spot. Yeah. Well, it's

01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:03.439
what we do. It is what we do. A little unscripted.

01:09:05.380 --> 01:09:09.119
Nice plug. You're welcome. I'm here all week.

01:09:09.199 --> 01:09:12.619
Well, you know, I'm really fascinated by the

01:09:12.619 --> 01:09:16.619
idea of doing a surprise moment where he says,

01:09:16.640 --> 01:09:19.680
I'm going to encourage my dad. Okay. You know

01:09:19.680 --> 01:09:22.300
what I mean? And did you say something about

01:09:22.300 --> 01:09:25.850
having a nickname or something? I did not. Well,

01:09:25.869 --> 01:09:29.130
maybe there's a nickname that he's given, but

01:09:29.130 --> 01:09:32.470
early, like, you find his dad, and he just says,

01:09:32.590 --> 01:09:35.029
like, you got to champ to his dad. Oh, yeah.

01:09:36.130 --> 01:09:37.949
Like, just something encouraging. You know, something

01:09:37.949 --> 01:09:40.390
like that that ties into that. Yeah, I think

01:09:40.390 --> 01:09:44.789
that's super cool. And then what was the last

01:09:44.789 --> 01:09:46.550
thing he was going to do? Oh, yeah, the dad encouraged

01:09:46.550 --> 01:09:50.590
him. A childhood buddy. The job decision, I think

01:09:50.590 --> 01:09:52.789
it's just asking for more money. All right, that's

01:09:52.789 --> 01:09:55.789
too stressful. I get that. So the tagline, we

01:09:55.789 --> 01:09:59.770
have... At what price? That's interesting, because

01:09:59.770 --> 01:10:03.550
I would argue, where's the price? Is he paying

01:10:03.550 --> 01:10:07.909
one? Because at the end, you... Oh, interesting.

01:10:08.029 --> 01:10:10.050
All right, so we're finding out there's ramifications

01:10:10.050 --> 01:10:12.630
for all these things. Yeah, I think that's why...

01:10:12.630 --> 01:10:14.649
Potentially, you don't think too heartbreaking

01:10:14.649 --> 01:10:17.939
ramifications for the childhood bug. You don't

01:10:17.939 --> 01:10:20.119
think these things are... Nobody thinks the ripples

01:10:20.119 --> 01:10:22.359
of their life are going to come back to bite

01:10:22.359 --> 01:10:26.699
them. Okay, the big idea is that potentially...

01:10:26.699 --> 01:10:30.600
I guess he wouldn't know if his life turns out

01:10:30.600 --> 01:10:33.479
the same. Yeah, he gets to die at the end. Is

01:10:33.479 --> 01:10:35.640
that the sad news? Well, I don't know. Maybe

01:10:35.640 --> 01:10:37.520
he's not on a deathbed is what I'm saying. Okay,

01:10:37.600 --> 01:10:40.579
he's just retelling. No, I don't think he's on

01:10:40.579 --> 01:10:42.539
a deathbed. Okay, he's just retelling a story.

01:10:42.539 --> 01:10:45.329
So could there be a way that he'd know... you

01:10:45.329 --> 01:10:47.590
know how things turned out differently otherwise

01:10:47.590 --> 01:10:52.069
because as the audience you'd be like well how

01:10:52.069 --> 01:10:55.189
does he know how you know i think that's where

01:10:55.189 --> 01:10:57.409
the fantasy part of it comes in and like you

01:10:57.409 --> 01:10:58.789
don't know if he was telling the truth or not

01:10:58.789 --> 01:11:02.289
oh interesting i think you have to steer into

01:11:02.289 --> 01:11:04.470
that like so do you have other characters like

01:11:04.470 --> 01:11:09.090
checking this stuff in post no no i mean honestly

01:11:09.090 --> 01:11:11.050
like all right we've heard this and then there's

01:11:11.050 --> 01:11:15.500
a little bit of like uh after credits scene where

01:11:15.500 --> 01:11:17.880
like there's a wink and a nudge at the end and

01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:22.279
like oh childhood polo died or something we we

01:11:22.279 --> 01:11:24.420
do the like shows that all these things were

01:11:24.420 --> 01:11:26.800
true we do the classic thing of like you get

01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:28.640
like the half screen of the credits where it

01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:31.220
shows like all of the like yeah all the bits

01:11:31.220 --> 01:11:33.119
i love that by the way yeah we need to bring

01:11:33.119 --> 01:11:34.760
that back that is so i don't know how we lost

01:11:34.760 --> 01:11:37.460
that but i could see that i think that's a director's

01:11:37.460 --> 01:11:40.909
choice on that interesting i'd leave oh so leave

01:11:40.909 --> 01:11:43.829
it like how do you know what happened like yeah

01:11:43.829 --> 01:11:46.109
how do you know did it work out what worked out

01:11:46.109 --> 01:11:49.010
what we end on a ambiguous happy note but would

01:11:49.010 --> 01:11:51.430
you be satisfied by that like would you want

01:11:51.430 --> 01:11:53.409
to know what happened to the bully and and and

01:11:53.409 --> 01:11:55.890
if his life turned out better or not i don't

01:11:55.890 --> 01:11:57.550
know the way hollywood's going right now they'll

01:11:57.550 --> 01:12:01.369
tell you anyway We'll just reboot it. Well, let

01:12:01.369 --> 01:12:02.729
me tell you what happened to the bully. Don't

01:12:02.729 --> 01:12:05.510
worry. I'll tell you in 20 years. I'd want some

01:12:05.510 --> 01:12:07.029
closure. You'd want some closure. You want to

01:12:07.029 --> 01:12:08.710
know what happened to the bully. And it's interesting

01:12:08.710 --> 01:12:11.170
to create that element of fantasy where you do

01:12:11.170 --> 01:12:13.229
have that scene where somebody is like, all right,

01:12:13.350 --> 01:12:16.890
like. Always telling that story and somebody

01:12:16.890 --> 01:12:18.829
is like and looks these things up and is like,

01:12:18.890 --> 01:12:20.949
wait a second. You could always have it be like

01:12:20.949 --> 01:12:24.409
it's a talk show. Right before the almost I.

01:12:25.069 --> 01:12:26.949
In a strange pivot, you could have it be like

01:12:26.949 --> 01:12:29.109
the five people you meet in heaven or on the

01:12:29.109 --> 01:12:31.550
way to heaven. But instead of that, it's a literal

01:12:31.550 --> 01:12:33.710
talk show. We're good at what we do. I'm going

01:12:33.710 --> 01:12:39.689
to say, what if you get the idea that he knows

01:12:39.689 --> 01:12:43.329
what the path is going to be, but he gets to

01:12:43.329 --> 01:12:45.430
roll the dice on this. That's the point. So he

01:12:45.430 --> 01:12:48.670
knows how it's going to end. So you're saying

01:12:48.670 --> 01:12:51.390
his life is the same no matter what. Because

01:12:51.390 --> 01:12:54.680
Jeremy Piven is able to show him. Okay. It's

01:12:54.680 --> 01:12:58.420
not bad, but it ain't great. Okay. And then,

01:12:58.500 --> 01:13:01.960
but you can roll the dice on these four things

01:13:01.960 --> 01:13:05.840
and see how your life turns out. So he has a

01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:08.819
point of reference, at least in his story, that

01:13:08.819 --> 01:13:11.939
he says, I know that my life, and he told me

01:13:11.939 --> 01:13:13.939
how it was going to turn out. It kind of sounds

01:13:13.939 --> 01:13:16.680
like he finds a magic item. He gets a genie lamp,

01:13:16.840 --> 01:13:19.539
something to that effect, and this is our family.

01:13:19.539 --> 01:13:24.409
If you just look down. Just unzip. Nope. More

01:13:24.409 --> 01:13:26.210
like the never ending story. Like he goes to

01:13:26.210 --> 01:13:28.890
a pawn shop or something, gets something. So

01:13:28.890 --> 01:13:32.369
I think it's important that he knows what the

01:13:32.369 --> 01:13:34.750
alternative was. So he knows what he's risking.

01:13:34.829 --> 01:13:38.609
And he's risking not much because he has belief

01:13:38.609 --> 01:13:43.630
in Jeremy Piven and his semi -comedic ways in

01:13:43.630 --> 01:13:47.590
this. We don't need the full piv. No. We need

01:13:47.590 --> 01:13:51.760
you to pivot. good classic clever i love you

01:13:51.760 --> 01:13:58.279
know um and and you have and i again i like the

01:13:58.279 --> 01:14:01.220
idea that you know um dame judy dentures in the

01:14:01.220 --> 01:14:03.859
room and she's non -committal to this she's she's

01:14:03.859 --> 01:14:07.600
always like yes tells it every year is it true

01:14:07.600 --> 01:14:10.539
yes it's true she's just in on it how do you

01:14:10.539 --> 01:14:12.819
know and she's just i know she she's the one

01:14:12.819 --> 01:14:14.640
who gives you the wink at the end but like i

01:14:14.640 --> 01:14:17.670
thought like the postscripts were like A kid

01:14:17.670 --> 01:14:19.970
starts looking up, like, somebody finally wrote

01:14:19.970 --> 01:14:23.310
this down. It's like, well, shit. He's been lying

01:14:23.310 --> 01:14:26.010
to me this whole time. And you see, you know,

01:14:26.010 --> 01:14:27.930
what did happen to these people. And it's either

01:14:27.930 --> 01:14:30.029
what, you know, again, director's choice, how

01:14:30.029 --> 01:14:32.449
interesting it is, whatever happened to these

01:14:32.449 --> 01:14:35.989
people. Yeah. I think that I find that. And you

01:14:35.989 --> 01:14:38.930
know that during or it is postscript, like either

01:14:38.930 --> 01:14:41.289
way. Yeah. You bury it at the very end. Yeah.

01:14:41.470 --> 01:14:43.329
After all this. And you can have another scene

01:14:43.329 --> 01:14:47.350
because it kind of started with, you know. princess

01:14:47.350 --> 01:14:50.170
bride style i believe you mentioned like yeah

01:14:50.170 --> 01:14:53.090
so maybe one kid he makes a connection with the

01:14:53.090 --> 01:14:55.789
one kid early or maybe it is just one kid he's

01:14:55.789 --> 01:14:58.930
talking to back and the kid's finally like and

01:14:58.930 --> 01:15:02.850
he's like he he figures it out and gives him

01:15:02.850 --> 01:15:08.500
the thing cube The glowing Q. I distracted you

01:15:08.500 --> 01:15:12.279
with that, but... And then that's his key to

01:15:12.279 --> 01:15:14.760
making similar or different decisions. Turns

01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:17.260
out. I like that. This alien artifact. All right.

01:15:17.319 --> 01:15:20.239
I think we've got... We have... He's the last

01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:24.380
reasonable person. And then some. All the things

01:15:24.380 --> 01:15:28.920
that we need to... Frank Oz directed. I... 2028

01:15:28.920 --> 01:15:32.420
release. This is very true. Please be the Muppets.

01:15:32.460 --> 01:15:34.840
This is very true. Somewhere in there. What?

01:15:36.780 --> 01:15:40.979
What if he is standing up to Billy Zane? In prison?

01:15:42.199 --> 01:15:44.899
We have some time. No. Somehow they're in prison?

01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:48.020
No, no, no. In the job thing? What if Billy Zane

01:15:48.020 --> 01:15:50.140
is the boss? I could see that. That'd be fun,

01:15:50.279 --> 01:15:52.960
Billy Zane. Because we don't do a lot of maybe

01:15:52.960 --> 01:15:56.180
side characters always. That's true. We're trying

01:15:56.180 --> 01:15:58.479
to get this. I don't know. That would be fun.

01:15:58.680 --> 01:16:01.520
That could be real fun. All right. I really like

01:16:01.520 --> 01:16:05.300
this movie as well. This is great. At what price,

01:16:05.319 --> 01:16:07.439
though? Is that what we want it to be? We have

01:16:07.439 --> 01:16:10.899
a minute and 44 seconds. At what price? I feel

01:16:10.899 --> 01:16:15.880
like it fits the title. It's ambiguous. Do you

01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:21.439
want to see that? Does it scream family? It still

01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:23.399
is a family movie. It definitely feels like a

01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:25.760
drama. I think it should be a little bit family

01:16:25.760 --> 01:16:29.239
at what price? Family at what price? Oh, man.

01:16:32.810 --> 01:16:37.229
How, what if it kind of, do you know what's important?

01:16:37.569 --> 01:16:42.770
Ooh. What's reasonable? No, no, no. Like the

01:16:42.770 --> 01:16:44.850
last reasonable person. And then the tagline

01:16:44.850 --> 01:16:46.930
is, do you know what's important? I can see that.

01:16:47.010 --> 01:16:51.170
Like asking the person, asking everybody. I could

01:16:51.170 --> 01:16:52.869
see that. And it may be in like, and we didn't

01:16:52.869 --> 01:16:55.649
say it didn't have to be an existing tagline,

01:16:55.710 --> 01:16:57.970
but like, again, do you know what's important?

01:16:59.470 --> 01:17:04.079
Because what is important? Yeah. And it's family,

01:17:04.239 --> 01:17:06.699
everybody. Surprise. And then that's the thing.

01:17:06.899 --> 01:17:10.300
Then we figure that out. There's kids and there's

01:17:10.300 --> 01:17:13.159
the young guy. There's a pinata and fireworks.

01:17:15.100 --> 01:17:18.340
Sparklers. Children riding tricycles. I don't

01:17:18.340 --> 01:17:20.859
know. I like Jeremy Piven with a young Paul Newman.

01:17:21.840 --> 01:17:23.859
I'm more excited about James. And he's just annoyed

01:17:23.859 --> 01:17:26.619
with him. Just annoyed with him always. Always.

01:17:27.479 --> 01:17:31.920
And I think the childhood bully scene, it needs

01:17:31.920 --> 01:17:35.359
to be... Like, truly childhood and Jeremy Piven,

01:17:35.420 --> 01:17:37.560
even at, like, eight years old, should be bald.

01:17:37.720 --> 01:17:42.539
Bald. Just always. Same Jeremy Piven hair. Should,

01:17:42.579 --> 01:17:45.100
in fact, just be his. I vote for rat tail. But

01:17:45.100 --> 01:17:48.380
balding. But balding. Like, skull it. Yeah. Skull

01:17:48.380 --> 01:17:52.800
it, but rat tail. Yeah. And he, you know, I am

01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:55.659
a huge. All right. Cool. I didn't make a terribly

01:17:55.659 --> 01:17:57.840
loud buzz. Well, that's zero if anybody was counting.

01:17:57.960 --> 01:18:00.039
Yeah. If anybody cared. We actually had 60 minutes.

01:18:00.100 --> 01:18:03.640
We did it. I did turn it down to. Zero sound.

01:18:03.899 --> 01:18:05.659
Oh, yeah. So nobody will hear us. Look at us.

01:18:05.699 --> 01:18:08.600
This beeping at us. Do we do all the things we

01:18:08.600 --> 01:18:11.359
set out to do? There's a multitude of Jeremy

01:18:11.359 --> 01:18:14.020
Piven movies I want to watch right now, including

01:18:14.020 --> 01:18:17.979
Rush Hour 2. His cameo in that is fantastic.

01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:21.079
All the Rush Hours are great. Let's be real.

01:18:21.140 --> 01:18:25.279
I agree. They're classic. And I know Jackie Chan

01:18:25.279 --> 01:18:30.420
is so glad he's still with us. We're so lucky

01:18:30.420 --> 01:18:34.500
he's given us more. I mean, it's several lifetimes

01:18:34.500 --> 01:18:39.100
worth of gift that he's given to us in his acting,

01:18:39.260 --> 01:18:42.239
his singing, his books, everything. World treasure.

01:18:42.420 --> 01:18:46.979
But I'd take another one of those. Yeah. He's

01:18:46.979 --> 01:18:48.760
still doing stuff, Jackie Chan. I think they're

01:18:48.760 --> 01:18:52.359
confirming a fourth. No kidding. Chris Tucker

01:18:52.359 --> 01:18:56.770
was awesome in that movie Air about the... shoe

01:18:56.770 --> 01:18:59.050
of the name oh did you watch that movie the one

01:18:59.050 --> 01:19:01.729
about jordan and nike and all that it's a it's

01:19:01.729 --> 01:19:04.590
a multiple rewatch in this household it's so

01:19:04.590 --> 01:19:06.970
good okay and chris tucker because a lot of people

01:19:06.970 --> 01:19:09.630
are like he's back i don't know he's somebody

01:19:09.630 --> 01:19:12.189
who i haven't followed too much and maybe he

01:19:12.189 --> 01:19:14.409
hasn't been in a lot of the latest movies lately

01:19:14.409 --> 01:19:17.909
he's in it and he's just awesome and they're

01:19:17.909 --> 01:19:21.250
just man i miss chris tucker and he's not shrieking

01:19:21.250 --> 01:19:24.229
like the fifth element and again i'll always

01:19:24.229 --> 01:19:27.390
have that Call me my man. I don't feel good.

01:19:30.170 --> 01:19:34.810
I feel really good that you settled into young

01:19:34.810 --> 01:19:37.210
Paul Newman. Again, I know we're leaning into

01:19:37.210 --> 01:19:40.989
this show. It's ideas and parameters. But I think

01:19:40.989 --> 01:19:44.930
if we're just letting ourselves run wild. It

01:19:44.930 --> 01:19:47.029
forces you to think deeper than be like, all

01:19:47.029 --> 01:19:48.890
right, give me an actor in the last 20 years.

01:19:48.890 --> 01:19:50.770
And then you're like, oh, let's put Robert Redford

01:19:50.770 --> 01:19:53.729
in it. So I want us to be better than that. And

01:19:53.729 --> 01:19:56.970
I think we can be because of you mostly. You

01:19:56.970 --> 01:20:00.449
know all the really cool, good, and modern hip

01:20:00.449 --> 01:20:05.409
stuff. I don't know if that's true. I try. Well,

01:20:05.409 --> 01:20:08.430
well done. I would see this movie. I would see

01:20:08.430 --> 01:20:09.890
this movie. If anybody wants to make this movie,

01:20:10.050 --> 01:20:12.010
I mean, we can't use the same actors, but, you

01:20:12.010 --> 01:20:14.960
know. We're willing to work with some rules.

01:20:15.500 --> 01:20:19.119
There's talk about what can and can't be done

01:20:19.119 --> 01:20:23.180
in Hollywood now. You know what I mean? It's

01:20:23.180 --> 01:20:25.039
all about rights. Who signed their rights away

01:20:25.039 --> 01:20:27.119
before they left this mortal coil? Let's be real

01:20:27.119 --> 01:20:30.979
here. You could get James Earl Jones' voice.

01:20:31.319 --> 01:20:35.739
I know. Nice job making this movie. I'm glad

01:20:35.739 --> 01:20:38.680
we got to make this movie. We should make another

01:20:38.680 --> 01:20:41.460
one. Until next time. See ya.