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Nick and Sue. This edition of the Chatterbox

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Redux podcast is brought to you in association

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with the Old Glory Iconic Music and Sports Superstore.

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More from them in a bit. Chatterbox. When the

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stars talk, they talk to Nick and Sue. Welcome

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to the 100th edition of the Chatterbox Redux

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podcast with Sue and Nick and today our special

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guest is Athol Guy of The Seekers. This is Nick

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and Sue with Chatterbox giving you all you need

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to know about music. Life goes on. And now Chatterbox

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UK, we're just lucky enough to welcome Athol

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Guy of the Seekers. Welcome. How are you, sir?

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Good morning. Good morning. Well, thank you.

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Thank you very, very much. Lovely to be with

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you and to make contact again with our friends

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and the people that have nurtured our music over,

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I would believe, 60 years. I can hardly believe

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that myself. Absolutely. Well, I'm the second

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generation one. When the Seekers... when you

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guys split in 1968. It was still a year before

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I arrived. I arrived in 69, so I learnt you guys...

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I learned all about you from playing my mother's

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albums in the mid -70s and the singles and discovering

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her record collection. I found you that way,

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not knowing that I'd be presenting shows and

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Seeker's Nights myself and speaking to you some

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years later and even seeing you play live. So

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there you go. It's how it came round. I hope

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you enjoyed the live performances. Did you come

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to the 50th reunion? Yeah. Did the 50th one,

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that's the one just after when Judith had the

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brain hemorrhage and to come to the UK she had

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to learn to talk. Yeah, I had my tickets before

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that and quite incredibly it was a birthday treat

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for my mother and she didn't know she was going

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until I actually got her to the Brighton Centre

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doors. You've blindfolded her as well and took

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her around three times. It was really good, so.

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Well, it was an amazing turnaround, really. And

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one of the intriguing things is there's a video

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out, one of our DVDs, which I think was The 50th

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Farewell, but that was shot here in Melbourne,

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in Australia, and it was actually shot the night

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that she actually had that cerebral hemorrhage

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when she went back to the hotel. you would just

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never believe that that could happen, but you

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know, but it did and of course it was, you know,

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it was a terribly traumatic time, but you know,

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God bless her, she knuckled down and, you know,

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had great health care with our medical fraternity,

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and then turned everything around and you may

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know Danny Patesh, one of your great promoters,

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Danny was on ten of the hooks because we had

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to postpone And we really, we didn't know for

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quite a while whether we were going to be able

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to make it. Anyway, miracle, a miracle. Heckled

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right through. We had a rehearsal one day, and

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out came all the notes, and that beautiful horse

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again. But we went to see you all once more.

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Anyway, for the last time, that it was a dream.

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A brilliant tour, fantastic tour. Absolutely,

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and people travel from... I know, of course,

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in England terms, miles and miles, there's nothing

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like Australia, but people do travel from all

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over to see you. I know somebody in St. Leonard's,

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which is part of the town where we live, Hastings.

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I know somebody not only saw you at Brighton,

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but then went to see you at Bournemouth the next

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night and saw you at various places. And then

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we got in later. Oh, well, later. We take our...

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wherever we go. We have to make sure that there

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aren't any empty seats. I like that. You say

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that, but we had the lady contact the Seeker

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Special a couple of times, hadn't she? And she's

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in the States and she's seen you in Australia,

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seen you in the UK, she's been everywhere, so

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I think that's lovely. Can I ask you... Of course.

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yeah it just shows you it doesn't it absolutely

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just what following that you guys have uh now

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how did it all start i mean you keith and bruce

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knew each other how did it all sort of get together

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because it was you three guys and a guy called

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ken ray i know nothing about well the sequence

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of events really uh starts from me coming out

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of school days in fact the three of us Three

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boys went to the same school, but we really didn't

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know each other. We were consecutive years behind

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each other. I was a year ahead of Keith, and

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Keith was a year ahead of Bruce. And Bruce and

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I had played a little footy together, but never

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met up until after I left school when I was about

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17. We started playing around. It was really

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either jazz, you know, trad jazz or folk music

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around the Melbourne. So I had a little trio

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that was in that mode. And then I met up with

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Keith, who'd started a group after he left school

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as well. And then a little later on, Keith and

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I formed a group called the Escorts. Four boys,

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and we had a great lead voice there. And then

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later I met Bruce when I went to work with the

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big advertising agency, and we pulled up. with

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us as did the other lead singer in this group

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when we formed the Seekers. Originally the Seekers

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were four boys. So we started singing around

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the jazz and the folk clubs in Melbourne and

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our lead singer decided to get married so he

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opted out and the three of us decided we needed

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a girl. And there were two terrific jazz singers

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in Melbourne. One was a girl called Judy Marks

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and the other was a girl called Judy Doam. I

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met Judith's sister Beverly at Channel 9, a TV

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station where I was working. And she said, are

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you looking for a girl for your group? I said,

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yeah. And she said, well, my sister's a really

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good singer. Why don't you go and hear her sing?

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So I said, oh, great. Tell me where. So she said,

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oh, she's with this jazz club down the north.

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Anyway, before I could get to do that, Judith

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walked into the agency where I was working. She

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was just interviewed for a job there. a miracle

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of miracles, and she walked in and introduced

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herself to me, and said, oh, I'm Judy Durham.

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You were going to come and hear me sing one night.

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And I said, that's what she said. She said, when

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are you going to do that? And I said, well, why

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don't you come and sing with us tonight? And

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that's exactly what happened. That's the bit

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of magic that we picked up all the way along

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the line. I mean, how could you manufacture anything

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like that? Well exactly, he's got Judith's, and

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it is a unique voice, people will tell, I mean

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fortunately we've got these recordings, but basically

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so much of your materials were recorded and saved

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for good and people in a hundred years or two

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hundred years or whatever who know anything about

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music will identify with that unique voice and

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there are certain singers in every generation

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but that Judith is certainly one of those female

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voices and it is a very special voice. and people

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will be able to pick up on it in decades to come,

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years and years to come, after we're all long

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gone, definitely, I know they will, yeah. Our

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recording company, the people who are now license

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all their music, universal, universal music,

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that's where they place. And it's that beautiful

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sound that she gave us the opportunity to hang

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those terrific harmonies on. Because the three

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of us have always been pretty good harmony singers.

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It was just a blend. It's like an orchestra.

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You have your terrific lead pieces which pick

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up on all that, but you can clear them. or you

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can hear them clearly identified in all the major

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concertos and all the classic music. And unfortunately

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for us, we also got the sort of songs written

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for us by Tom Springfield that allowed us to

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let the voice cut through the needed with the

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lead lines and the harmonics build around it

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from the three chords. sound that we claim very

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proudly is our own with her as our little diva

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in the middle. Absolutely and of course you know

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the three boys that you all sing it sounds like

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your harmonies are all at a different level I

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mean I'm no good with baritone and all that that's

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that's beyond me but as far as a DJ listening

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to good music and that to me yeah you're all

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harmonizing at different levels and there's Judith

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there and it is a unique sound nobody could ever

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have a copy yet? Well, Javis, yeah, musically

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speaking, our three voices rehearsed there as

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Lee Javis gave us that lovely block where you

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can virtually cover it. You can cover nearly

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three octaves of it. Stu, I think you were going

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to ask Athel something. Yeah, my favourite song

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is Morning Town Ride. What's your favourite Seeker

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song? Well, it's a real collector for me. I'll

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tell you one of the most beautiful songs I really

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love is The Leaving of Riverpool. And we just

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put out an album now for the 60th, with 60 songs

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for 60 years. And I have a Leaving of Riverpool

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song, another song called The Water is Wine.

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And there's a beautiful song of Tom's that he

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wrote. I'm not sure it's on that particular album,

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but it's a lovely sort of gospel -y song called

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On the Other Side. And I think if anyone is listening

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now that's sort of digging around in our treasure

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chest, you know, try on the other side and you'll

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hear it as well. It's one of those classic sort

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of B -sides that we used to do, which comes about

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in our gospely, bluesy days. But of course the

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classics, I mean, all on the look -up, you know,

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name all of the sort of top 20 and you'll see,

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you know, basically that will be the same from

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all of us. Sure. You can't go past what they...

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what they did for our lives, our career, and

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sitting there absolutely stamped indelibly with

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a Seekers song. To celebrate the 60th anniversary,

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it's 60 songs for 60 years, is that right, Athol?

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Got that right? Yes, and I think the title of

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it is actually, the title is actually Carry Me.

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Now coming right to the end of our journey, we

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found that in the archives, just as a demo track

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that Judith did many years ago. And it was right

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at that time when we lost her just recently and

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we were planning the memorial service. And it

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came out with just her lead voice on it. And

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it's an absolutely classic speaker's song that

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Bruce wrote. way back in about 1993. It's amazing.

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Sitting there on an old tape, on an old tape.

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Anyway, we got it out, and we played it for it

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because we were planning everything for our 60th,

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you know, before we said we lost it last year.

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We were talking to her about it, and we said,

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look, we're going back into the studio to put

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the rest of the group sounds and everything on

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it. And it came out so magnificent, it was such

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a... It was such a poignant song for her memorial.

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And that's actually the title. The title of the

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album is Carry Me. So you'll get that on Spotify,

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I already understand. But of course, Universal

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Music hopefully would be putting that out over

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in London and hopefully around the world as well.

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I mean, I'm not sure how many distribution once

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they've got the DVDs or CDs, it's a wet market,

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you know, not out of position abroad. It's a

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triple album. Wow, excellent. Well, Sue and I

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are at the age where we prefer the actual CDs

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now rather than records, but yeah, we would rather

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have the actual CD as opposed to... Those are

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digital libraries for the radio, but you know,

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but I must mention this It's great that you mentioned

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carry me and that's the title of it because carry

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me as as the track as the song it's getting plays

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on our shows and There's people that were born

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in the 80s They're actually requesting to have

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it played and I think that's really quite good

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and it's in the CB UK Airplay chart at 38 or

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39. So there you go on the back of all that,

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so also it's good timing. I will bung you an

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email as to how it's doing, if it's not going

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up and things, but that is the airplay on over,

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yeah, 216 stations put their airplay towards

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that chart, so it's quite widespread, so you're

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in the top 40 would carry me as a song anyway.

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You're listening to Nick Prince and Sue L on

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Chatterbox UK. Well, that's the truth of the

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whole story, really. I've made arrangements here

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in Melbourne for us to go on a Pacific Island

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cruise and then a return trip to the UK with

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the Shipmars shipping lines, an Italian line,

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because I'd looked after all their advertising

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here in Australia when I was working in an advertising

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agency. And myself and the team would go down

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there and then when the ships would work in Melbourne

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and we'd play for their VIPs on their overnight

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stockover in Melbourne. So we got to know them

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really well and they offered us the opportunity

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and work and go cruising around the world with

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that trip to the UK as part of it. And of course

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when we got to the UK we sent some material over

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to The Great Organization which was one of the

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biggest agencies in Europe and also the operator

00:20:28.480 --> 00:20:32.680
of ITV at that time way back in the 60s and London

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Weekend TV. When they saw the tapes and saw some

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video of the group they actually had us put on

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a show called day to the night. It was called

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Mitchellmore back in 1964. And the moment the

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ship left in Southampton, I got a telegram telling

00:20:52.769 --> 00:20:56.029
us, you know, welcoming us to the UK because

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we were going to be staying there for about 12

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weeks while the ship went back to Melbourne and

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came back to pick us up for the return journey.

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And as a result of that, we were on television

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in the UK literally the second night we got off

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the boat. From that point on, in the first six

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months, we were calculating the other day. We

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did about 35 national TV shows in the UK in the

00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:25.740
first six months, and we were there. So we were

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pretty well overnight. Not successively, but

00:21:28.519 --> 00:21:31.359
overnight. Overnight we were recognized as this

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little band from Australia. And as they say after

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that, because we met Tom and coming to the other

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point, the new Rose, Dusty in Blackpool, we played

00:21:43.799 --> 00:21:47.160
a charity night in Blackpool and Dusty was on

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the hill and we loved her of course because she

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was a big star here in Australia with her beautiful

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voice and the sprinklers of course and I'm chatting

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and I want to meet up with Tom because I know

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he's got a 12 -string guitar and I'm looking

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to get a really nice 12 -string which became

00:22:04.440 --> 00:22:07.779
that great element in all our songs, our beautiful

00:22:07.779 --> 00:22:11.480
12 -string guitar So she said, yeah, sure. So

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we gave Keith Tom's number and then we all caught

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up with Tom and introduced him to Eddie Jarrett.

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And then the two got together and decided that

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Tom should write a single for the group that

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was getting into late 1964. And of course he

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came in one day on a little piece of paper, had

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the lyrics of I'll Never Find Another You and

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sang it to us. And that went quite well, yeah.

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He said, oh, that sounds like us, Tom. Thank

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you. And off we went into Abbey Road Studios

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and recorded it on a beef side on a Saturday

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night. And went off to play somewhere, I don't

00:22:52.710 --> 00:22:57.990
remember where, it doesn't really matter. And

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it entered at number 40, I think in about the

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third week. And then the pirate radio stations

00:23:03.789 --> 00:23:06.970
picked it up to see if the BBC didn't. play any

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record unless they were in the top 40. So we

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knew a couple of the Aussie DJs out on the prior

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radio shows and I think we sent them out a few

00:23:17.630 --> 00:23:23.569
bottles of Scotch and everything. Well it obviously

00:23:23.569 --> 00:23:27.150
worked because it was 1 .75 million copies in

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the UK alone and kind of it is over followed

00:23:31.430 --> 00:23:38.160
up and absolutely just massive. I think it was

00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:42.940
Melody Maker over here, you've been described,

00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:45.660
Seekers has been described many many times and

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I'm just going to say what it is, too folky to

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be pop, too poppy to be folk and I think it was

00:23:51.940 --> 00:23:54.940
Melody Maker said it first, but how did that

00:23:54.940 --> 00:23:56.960
make you feel? Because actually that's quite

00:23:56.960 --> 00:23:59.519
a unique little thing and it's not a million

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miles removed from the truth, it's a great unique

00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:08.640
sound. It's a reasonable description that other

00:24:08.640 --> 00:24:11.819
people have tried, you know, describing We the

00:24:11.819 --> 00:24:15.619
Seekers too. And quite simply, Never Seekers,

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and that's our sound. And that made the way for

00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:24.500
those songs to, you know, to edge their way into

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the pop shaft, even though you would never have

00:24:28.359 --> 00:24:30.500
regarded us at that time as a pop group, because

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in actual fact we were playing the folk programs.

00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:38.920
that were being broadcast out of Edinburgh. We

00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:41.720
were certainly, you know, very smoky, but in

00:24:41.720 --> 00:24:44.599
an instant, you know, we switched to, you know,

00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:48.339
gospely songs. We switched to, you know, pop

00:24:48.339 --> 00:24:50.319
songs like, I'll never find another you in a

00:24:50.319 --> 00:24:57.970
world of our own. absolutely yeah a little niche

00:24:57.970 --> 00:25:01.390
of our own and you had a few few successful years

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now i understand you the four of you had had

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an agreement where if one of you wanted to leave

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it was to be six months notice and it was Judith

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who'd met her future husband in the UK and she

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gave the six month notice and the final night

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this is how big you were in the UK because you

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were actually obviously discovered in the UK

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as we've basically covered already and the final

00:25:25.549 --> 00:25:29.509
night was actually done on British television

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wasn't it the last night of the Seekers and it's

00:25:32.049 --> 00:25:36.329
on YouTube It's an amazing concert, but it's

00:25:36.329 --> 00:25:38.490
hard even for me to sit there with a dry eye

00:25:38.490 --> 00:25:41.910
because that was it for a very very long time,

00:25:41.910 --> 00:26:04.200
but where we had a bit of learning churns fun

00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:08.359
on stage, because we were all great fans of another

00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:12.299
crazy group in the UK called the Nickwigs. And

00:26:12.299 --> 00:26:14.619
there was a group of about ten blokes playing

00:26:14.619 --> 00:26:17.559
an amazing array of instruments, who got up to

00:26:17.559 --> 00:26:21.039
the most ridiculous antics on stage. We played

00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:24.440
some shows with them at the Palladium, and we

00:26:24.440 --> 00:26:26.140
were in hysterics of the things they used to

00:26:26.140 --> 00:26:28.500
do, so we pinched a couple of their ideas and

00:26:28.500 --> 00:26:32.079
we did a... We did a version of it, and our own

00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:34.880
version of Sweet Adeline with false moustaches.

00:26:35.619 --> 00:26:38.799
So, you know, there was a very poignant moment

00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:42.539
at the end where I had to say goodbye, in a few

00:26:42.539 --> 00:26:47.779
words, which was pretty moving. But the sub -total

00:26:47.779 --> 00:26:52.440
was, you know, we left them with a lot of great

00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:55.059
memories, and I think they were over, in those

00:26:55.059 --> 00:26:58.319
days, over about 10 or 12 million people watching

00:26:58.319 --> 00:27:04.420
the show. And we still see vignettes on YouTube

00:27:04.420 --> 00:27:10.799
as everything else does. It's not totally lost

00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:13.559
so I would suggest if anyone's looking for a

00:27:13.559 --> 00:27:17.140
bit of silliness from the group go to YouTube

00:27:17.140 --> 00:27:19.819
and put in Seekers and put in Sweet Adeline.

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I just think you just came back to when you first

00:32:19.230 --> 00:32:23.109
came over, you said it was 35 television appearances.

00:32:23.309 --> 00:32:25.410
And of course we've got to remind people that

00:32:25.410 --> 00:32:28.250
weren't around at the time, the UK still only

00:32:28.250 --> 00:32:32.230
had two TV channels. So that's quite a feat for

00:32:32.230 --> 00:32:34.650
a country with two TV channels. Oh, it was. It

00:32:34.650 --> 00:32:43.150
was 1964. We were there. I can't remember the

00:32:43.150 --> 00:32:46.980
number of channels that were around. We did a

00:32:46.980 --> 00:32:50.720
series with Ronnie Carroll, an Irish singer.

00:32:50.980 --> 00:32:52.880
I think he had a song called One Dozen Roses,

00:32:52.980 --> 00:32:55.539
I'm not 100 % sure. We play him occasionally,

00:32:55.839 --> 00:33:00.039
yeah. We're aware of him, yeah. We did a lot

00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:02.319
of, as I said, folkie programs out of Edinburgh.

00:33:04.279 --> 00:33:07.299
But the BBC absolutely loved the group and we

00:33:07.299 --> 00:33:09.579
were invited on as guests in all the sort of

00:33:09.579 --> 00:33:25.069
big... The general appearance of the group was

00:33:25.069 --> 00:33:28.950
one that they found, you know, commensurate with

00:33:28.950 --> 00:33:31.069
the songs that pleased the audience and you've

00:33:31.069 --> 00:33:34.369
no doubt about that. I was aware of Judith's

00:33:34.369 --> 00:33:36.690
feeling that about herself and she was absolutely

00:33:36.690 --> 00:33:39.509
beautiful as a person and to look at her. It

00:33:39.509 --> 00:33:42.890
was such a shame that she had those problems

00:33:42.890 --> 00:33:45.309
really because she was a lovely girl all round,

00:33:45.490 --> 00:33:47.509
you know, you can tell that. Oh, absolutely,

00:33:48.670 --> 00:33:53.319
absolutely. As I said a little while ago, while

00:33:53.319 --> 00:33:56.519
she worried so much about it all, which was a

00:33:56.519 --> 00:33:59.920
bit of a concern, but she worked her way around

00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:03.299
the Carnaby Street stuff, and what Judith did,

00:34:03.460 --> 00:34:06.099
I mean, Judith, actually Judith created Judith

00:34:06.099 --> 00:34:09.460
Durham. I said that to someone the other day

00:34:09.460 --> 00:34:13.769
because she was very much her own person. and

00:34:13.769 --> 00:34:17.309
created that appearance. Yeah, a natural loveliness

00:34:17.309 --> 00:34:21.070
and the lovely look that she had, especially

00:34:21.070 --> 00:34:23.849
standing there in the middle of three and six

00:34:23.849 --> 00:34:29.309
foot guys. Almost a little bit of their protection

00:34:29.309 --> 00:34:30.969
around her. I mean, there was all those things

00:34:30.969 --> 00:34:37.190
that... I understand that you did quite a lot

00:34:37.190 --> 00:34:40.230
of television in Australia after the Seekers

00:34:40.230 --> 00:34:43.309
and I know there was a few it looks like there

00:34:43.309 --> 00:34:46.510
was a few a few tours or concerts without Judith

00:34:46.510 --> 00:34:48.690
that like and I see this one in this something

00:34:48.690 --> 00:34:52.400
happened in the 70s and so on and so forth. And

00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.920
I think Judith, was it 90? In the 90s she came

00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:58.559
back on board. I think she was, survived a very

00:34:58.559 --> 00:35:00.400
bad car crash. And I think her husband who'd

00:35:00.400 --> 00:35:04.059
been exceedingly ill, I think motor neuron disease,

00:35:04.699 --> 00:35:07.760
she'd sort of nursed him right to the end. And

00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:10.079
I don't know if it was her spiritual beliefs

00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:12.260
or something, but she felt, I read somewhere,

00:35:12.300 --> 00:35:15.400
and I think it was her own words, she felt that,

00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:17.260
you know, the time was right and perhaps she

00:35:17.260 --> 00:35:19.579
owed it to the fans because of the love that

00:35:19.579 --> 00:35:22.099
they showed Judith through that difficult time.

00:35:22.219 --> 00:35:24.300
I don't know how much of that's correct, but

00:35:24.300 --> 00:35:27.159
that's my understanding as to why she then came

00:35:27.159 --> 00:35:31.260
back on tour with you three guys again. Yes,

00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:38.079
I think you have to believe in a bit of spirituality

00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:45.300
here as a relation to the group. And Judith had

00:35:45.300 --> 00:35:52.059
a philosophy always. that certain things were

00:35:52.059 --> 00:35:54.300
meant to happen in your life and you need to

00:35:54.300 --> 00:35:56.739
follow a certain path. And she and her husband

00:35:56.739 --> 00:36:01.219
Ron, they were fairly devout followers of actually

00:36:01.219 --> 00:36:07.159
an Indian cult which were quite similar to Christianity

00:36:07.159 --> 00:36:09.940
really in many ways, where there was an Indian

00:36:09.940 --> 00:36:14.139
master and he would take his walk along a certain

00:36:14.139 --> 00:36:19.159
path and connect him with the deity which whoever

00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:25.320
the deity he was represented as. And all the

00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:34.119
way through, she followed her own sort of directions

00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:40.159
there, musically as well as personally. When

00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:51.690
it came time to... Because of the, yeah, my phone

00:36:51.690 --> 00:36:54.429
never stopped ringing from the time we got up.

00:36:54.570 --> 00:36:56.909
If you'd get all the time, could we get the Seekers

00:36:56.909 --> 00:36:59.789
to do a big Christmas show, or could we not get

00:36:59.789 --> 00:37:01.809
the group back together for Big Australia, they

00:37:01.809 --> 00:37:04.469
functioned. Could we not get the group? There

00:37:04.469 --> 00:37:08.469
was all a constant demand. And we had, we had

00:37:08.469 --> 00:37:10.769
one, two, three other girls who joined us from

00:37:10.769 --> 00:37:14.190
time to time. Three boys to do some special events,

00:37:14.449 --> 00:37:17.349
and it was all us. It wasn't Judith. of course,

00:37:17.530 --> 00:37:20.369
was not going to be the same, that it was Seeker's

00:37:20.369 --> 00:37:23.650
music, as Seeker's music is performed now by

00:37:23.650 --> 00:37:27.969
tribute groups all over the planet. And you know,

00:37:27.989 --> 00:37:30.289
the music is the music is the music, that's beautiful

00:37:30.289 --> 00:37:35.690
music. And as a result of that, knowing that

00:37:35.690 --> 00:37:38.010
our fans were still out there and still wanting

00:37:38.010 --> 00:37:40.690
the original man, always. I mean, the letters

00:37:40.690 --> 00:37:43.090
kept pouring in, and then when the digital world

00:37:43.090 --> 00:37:47.179
hit, you know, we knew that Yeah, there's so

00:37:47.179 --> 00:37:50.000
many people out there who really, really, really

00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.480
would love to see the, you know, the original

00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:55.079
group back together. And she picked up on that

00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:58.860
through that car crash that she had. And of course,

00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:01.900
that was the time when we simply decided that

00:38:01.900 --> 00:38:04.739
we really needed, because we're all out of the

00:38:04.739 --> 00:38:07.639
planet. Four of us are in different parts of

00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:10.219
the world all the time. And we had a dinner,

00:38:10.260 --> 00:38:12.579
and we had a dinner together in Melbourne in

00:38:12.579 --> 00:38:19.280
1990. It was 19, like, 1991. We decided, we took,

00:38:19.699 --> 00:38:22.920
Jupiter's manager was the one who pushed it correctly,

00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:24.800
and he said, you've just got to have a reunion

00:38:24.800 --> 00:38:27.860
concert, you know? Because we were all still

00:38:27.860 --> 00:38:31.980
singing and playing, you know, in other areas

00:38:31.980 --> 00:38:35.920
as well, as, you know, singers. And out of that

00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:38.920
dinner came the result that we would, we would,

00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:43.510
we would get together again. Go back on stage

00:38:43.510 --> 00:38:47.170
for a short series of content. Of course that

00:38:47.170 --> 00:38:50.630
turns into the next 25 years. Yes, absolutely.

00:38:51.789 --> 00:38:54.289
In fact, in that last tour, yeah, you came to

00:38:54.289 --> 00:38:56.429
the UK twice in that last tour, I think. It was

00:38:56.429 --> 00:38:59.090
in the 90s and then again when I saw you at the

00:38:59.090 --> 00:39:01.630
Brighton Centre last time round. Have you got

00:39:01.630 --> 00:39:06.789
anything to ask Athol? Yes, Athol, have the Seekers

00:39:06.789 --> 00:39:12.369
ever done a film? Yes, we have. There were three

00:39:12.369 --> 00:39:16.210
big TV specials we did in Australia each time

00:39:16.210 --> 00:39:22.309
we went back to Australia to tour. We did 65,

00:39:22.469 --> 00:39:28.170
66, 67 and 68. We did four return tours down

00:39:28.170 --> 00:39:32.269
home and each time we did a television special

00:39:32.269 --> 00:39:39.969
and two of those specials were as good as a movie

00:39:39.969 --> 00:39:44.010
in a sense. the group of all the songs, and in

00:39:44.010 --> 00:39:47.170
the context of the storyline, but not acting

00:39:47.170 --> 00:39:50.949
any parts at all, a bit of a narrator, and basically

00:39:50.949 --> 00:39:53.670
the story of the group up to that point in time,

00:39:54.250 --> 00:39:56.150
and one of them, which is called The Seekers

00:39:56.150 --> 00:40:00.349
Down Under, was very much in promotion of The

00:40:00.349 --> 00:40:04.190
Seekers Back Home in Australia, and about a dozen

00:40:04.190 --> 00:40:08.869
or more amazing parts of the country, and that

00:40:08.869 --> 00:40:11.639
was credited. when it was played all around Eastern

00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:14.800
Europe, through the UK and Eastern Europe, as

00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:17.559
being the biggest promoter of tourism and immigration

00:40:17.559 --> 00:40:23.960
to Australia of all time. So that was a wonderful

00:40:23.960 --> 00:40:27.019
tribute to the group. I think as a result of

00:40:27.019 --> 00:40:30.719
that, when that came out in 1967, as a result

00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:32.820
of that, we were named Australians of the Year.

00:40:34.659 --> 00:40:44.869
Which was a lovely tribute to the group. In a

00:40:44.869 --> 00:40:47.570
plane high above the Pacific, four young people

00:40:47.570 --> 00:40:49.730
endeavour to snatch a moment's rest before beginning

00:40:49.730 --> 00:40:52.090
yet another concert tour of yet another country.

00:40:52.670 --> 00:40:55.369
This time, however, it's home again. For the

00:40:55.369 --> 00:41:00.070
seekers, it's Christmas in Australia. Athol Guy,

00:41:00.369 --> 00:41:02.650
aged 27, whose foresight launched the group some

00:41:02.650 --> 00:41:06.280
five short years ago. Judith Durham aged 24,

00:41:06.539 --> 00:41:08.300
whose amazing voice gives the group its unique

00:41:08.300 --> 00:41:13.320
sound. Keith Potker aged 26, whose skill with

00:41:13.320 --> 00:41:15.800
a 12 -string guitar has played a major part in

00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:21.900
the instrumental arrangements of the group. And

00:41:21.900 --> 00:41:25.059
Bruce Woodley aged 25, who has established himself

00:41:25.059 --> 00:41:27.500
as a composer of promise, having contributed

00:41:27.500 --> 00:41:30.820
several songs for the group. Together, they comprise

00:41:30.820 --> 00:41:32.880
the most famous group ever to leave Australia.

00:41:33.539 --> 00:41:36.039
Now seasoned entertainers having performed in

00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:38.019
all the major entertainment centers in the world

00:41:38.019 --> 00:41:41.039
They are home again to see their families to

00:41:41.039 --> 00:41:45.440
perform and perhaps to remember For Apple guy

00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:47.840
his first memory must be of a small coffee lounge

00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:49.820
in Melbourne For it was here that the seekers

00:41:49.820 --> 00:41:53.139
first realized that they had a sound an identity

00:41:53.139 --> 00:41:57.079
We didn't know how good a sound it was, but we

00:41:57.079 --> 00:41:58.940
did discover here that people wanted to hear

00:41:58.940 --> 00:42:02.070
it We sang only on Monday nights. They were supposed

00:42:02.070 --> 00:42:04.429
to be the off nights. A good time to hide a group

00:42:04.429 --> 00:42:07.650
away without ruining business. Looking back now,

00:42:07.650 --> 00:42:09.289
when you're on top, it's easy to say that it

00:42:09.289 --> 00:42:11.570
was all working out for the best. But you know,

00:42:11.590 --> 00:42:14.449
it could so easily have been otherwise. I guess

00:42:14.449 --> 00:42:16.210
we owe a lot to those people who stopped clinking

00:42:16.210 --> 00:42:18.349
their saucers when we started to sing. It's a

00:42:18.349 --> 00:42:20.530
funny feeling. You do feel something click inside

00:42:20.530 --> 00:42:22.949
when you make good. It's hard to explain, but

00:42:22.949 --> 00:42:25.690
the sound of that spontaneous applause, it's

00:42:25.690 --> 00:42:30.050
like a sixth sense that says, maybe. I don't

00:42:30.050 --> 00:42:32.809
know if we had to start it all over again, whether

00:42:32.809 --> 00:42:35.349
I'd have the courage. There was such a long,

00:42:35.349 --> 00:42:37.469
long way to go from that time at the treble clef.

00:42:38.769 --> 00:42:42.670
But start it did. And the boys are the first

00:42:42.670 --> 00:42:44.449
to admit that their luck turned with the arrival

00:42:44.449 --> 00:42:47.409
of Judith in the group. By sheer chance, she

00:42:47.409 --> 00:42:49.449
took a job at the advertising agency where Athol

00:42:49.449 --> 00:42:53.050
worked. My sister had actually told him about

00:42:53.050 --> 00:42:55.550
my singing, and at that time the boys were looking

00:42:55.550 --> 00:42:58.960
for a girl to join them. However, typical Athel,

00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:01.280
he'd promised to hear me but had never got around

00:43:01.280 --> 00:43:06.820
to it. Hello, Athel. Hi. Morning, Athel. Good

00:43:06.820 --> 00:43:15.940
day, isn't it? Is it? Are these typing those

00:43:15.940 --> 00:43:17.940
copies for Mr Payton yet? Yes, there they are.

00:43:18.699 --> 00:43:21.440
Oh, good morning. You're new around here. Yes,

00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:24.719
I'm Judith Durham. Are you Athel Guy? Yes, Judith

00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:26.780
Durham. They weren't supposed to come and hear

00:43:26.780 --> 00:43:29.960
you sing sometime. Yes, you were. Well, there's

00:43:29.960 --> 00:43:32.599
no one around. Oh, I think you'd better finish

00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:36.659
your coffee first. And so the group was complete.

00:43:37.699 --> 00:43:39.860
At the age of 14, Judith Durham had ambitions

00:43:39.860 --> 00:43:42.119
to be an opera singer, but this was not to be.

00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:44.780
She became interested in traditional jazz and

00:43:44.780 --> 00:43:47.340
gospel singing, and this early experience played

00:43:47.340 --> 00:43:49.500
an important part in establishing the seeker's

00:43:49.500 --> 00:43:52.099
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00:43:52.099 --> 00:43:54.219
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Chatterbox You're listening to Nick Prince and

00:45:30.139 --> 00:46:30.440
Sue Earl on Chatterbox UK. What a great answer

00:46:30.440 --> 00:46:33.079
though. The Seeker's Down Under I'm aware of

00:46:33.079 --> 00:46:35.960
because there's plenty of that on YouTube and

00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:38.280
I'm sure that's the one where you're running

00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:41.260
around in very old cars, a bit like the old Brighton

00:46:41.260 --> 00:46:49.639
run. I'm trying to get to watch it in the correct

00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:51.860
order because it doesn't appear on YouTube in

00:46:51.860 --> 00:46:53.239
the right order. I'm trying to find all these

00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:58.510
bits. That brings us sort of to the more recent

00:46:58.510 --> 00:47:01.929
time. First of all, I don't know if it's a difficult

00:47:01.929 --> 00:47:03.550
question or not, but it's something I've always

00:47:03.550 --> 00:47:06.929
wondered. What was the feeling after the Seekers

00:47:06.929 --> 00:47:11.929
when Keith started the new Seekers? Were you

00:47:11.929 --> 00:47:14.429
not happy or what was the feeling at the time?

00:47:27.019 --> 00:47:29.739
You've seen what happens there, the depths of

00:47:29.739 --> 00:47:34.579
our friendship, because we would never want to

00:47:34.579 --> 00:47:39.000
sue any one of us for any actions that we didn't

00:47:39.000 --> 00:47:50.739
agree with. And it wasn't, in a sense, anything

00:47:50.739 --> 00:47:53.079
that we deliberated about. I mean, the bottom

00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:59.610
line was... And he actually sent me a telegram

00:47:59.610 --> 00:48:02.449
at the time, the old -fashioned telegram. I was

00:48:02.449 --> 00:48:05.170
back in Australia, I was doing some television

00:48:05.170 --> 00:48:07.909
back in Australia, and he asked me if I wanted

00:48:07.909 --> 00:48:09.769
to come on because he was going to form a new

00:48:09.769 --> 00:48:14.969
group. And I declined again, not knowing what

00:48:14.969 --> 00:48:18.369
the name of the group was going to be. And I

00:48:18.369 --> 00:48:21.789
suppose, you know, in retrospect, we should have

00:48:21.789 --> 00:48:25.230
probably said, look, hang on, I'll check. Certainly,

00:48:25.269 --> 00:48:32.119
you know, you go ahead. I was in the bottom line

00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:34.239
once they came out with a couple of fantastic

00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:41.260
hit records. And so the musicality and the connection

00:48:41.260 --> 00:48:43.960
and having the two girls in there was the right

00:48:43.960 --> 00:48:49.460
move. And they were a very commercial poppy group.

00:48:50.780 --> 00:48:55.000
And a quick recognition there, I suppose. I guess

00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:57.840
a lot of old Seekers, original Seekers fans may

00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:02.559
have taken exception. One of those passing moments

00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:06.639
where we just let it go through to the keeper

00:49:08.820 --> 00:49:11.239
OK, we've got to the present day. Obviously,

00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:14.800
a very sad due to this passing. I mean, we had

00:49:14.800 --> 00:49:19.219
people in our chat room in tears. The next day,

00:49:19.260 --> 00:49:23.679
the Saturday, I just announced it on the Seekers

00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:28.940
Facebook groups. So the listeners that normally

00:49:28.940 --> 00:49:31.579
come for the Seekers anniversary, the Seekers

00:49:31.579 --> 00:49:34.079
events that I do, that they'd all be listening.

00:49:34.199 --> 00:49:36.260
In fact, it was only four weeks after the...

00:49:36.090 --> 00:49:38.769
Yeah, I did one in July. I did one on Judith's

00:49:38.769 --> 00:49:42.210
birthday. And then, of course, you passed away

00:49:42.210 --> 00:49:46.969
late summer, September, was it? Yeah. Now, you

00:49:46.969 --> 00:49:52.849
know, people were just so grief stricken, they'd

00:49:52.849 --> 00:49:57.110
lost somebody special to them. Now, I heard a

00:49:57.110 --> 00:49:59.349
lovely story. I think it was you talking on Aussie

00:49:59.349 --> 00:50:03.489
Telly or something, Athol, where I think Judith

00:50:03.489 --> 00:50:07.789
went to She was in a hospice or something right

00:50:07.789 --> 00:50:10.750
at that last day, last few hours. Now I understand

00:50:10.750 --> 00:50:13.690
that the three of you, from wherever you were,

00:50:13.769 --> 00:50:17.190
the three boys, all phoned or made contact or

00:50:17.190 --> 00:50:19.269
she could hear your voices at least. I mean that

00:50:19.269 --> 00:50:23.250
is one wonderful, lovely, heartwarming thing.

00:50:23.489 --> 00:50:26.630
It really is. That touches me so much. Well,

00:50:26.949 --> 00:50:32.389
yeah, well, it was, you know, just a game, one

00:50:32.389 --> 00:50:35.219
of those, yeah, moments. We sort of take steps

00:50:35.219 --> 00:50:38.239
in again, right, at a critical point of time.

00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:41.260
And fortunately, thank goodness, you know, we

00:50:41.260 --> 00:50:45.019
just had that last opportunity, uh, because Beverly,

00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:49.659
her sister, was with us. And they're one of our

00:50:49.659 --> 00:50:52.880
helpers. And they managed to contact, you know,

00:50:53.059 --> 00:50:55.079
each of us individually, which was wonderful.

00:50:55.199 --> 00:50:59.019
We just had that chance to say, personally, our

00:50:59.019 --> 00:51:02.809
goodbyes. And she could hear us again. And they

00:51:02.809 --> 00:51:06.389
acknowledge that, which we knew when she wasn't

00:51:06.389 --> 00:51:13.230
able to talk. The passing moments, you remember

00:51:13.230 --> 00:51:17.510
for the rest of your life, and you hope that

00:51:17.510 --> 00:51:19.710
others can share that sort of experience. And

00:51:19.710 --> 00:51:23.789
I come back to that spirituality again, where

00:51:23.789 --> 00:51:25.989
it's not religion, I don't mean that at all.

00:51:26.230 --> 00:51:28.769
I mean that other relevance that others, that

00:51:28.769 --> 00:51:32.699
bubble below that, the meaning of what you, You

00:51:32.699 --> 00:51:36.480
know, life's all about a bit of fate. And I think,

00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:40.019
you know, the powers that be, the deities that

00:51:40.019 --> 00:51:43.000
are there somewhere, decided that it was really

00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:45.420
the right thing in the time for us to just join

00:51:45.420 --> 00:51:48.039
together one more time. It's amazing. And having

00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:50.360
a philosophical about it, it was just a lovely

00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:56.280
moment. And pleasing, you know, for the four

00:51:56.280 --> 00:51:59.039
of us and the bond that we did have, especially

00:52:01.360 --> 00:52:07.420
after the years that we'd had together. I mean,

00:52:08.300 --> 00:52:12.119
her memorial service was absolutely wonderful.

00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:18.639
There's a state cabinet down here. She's a one

00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:21.519
-off, and we miss her with a chance that we used

00:52:21.519 --> 00:52:24.800
to have regularly. And she had been doing well

00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:28.559
for a long time. But she was still barreling

00:52:28.559 --> 00:52:33.130
away. She was still writing. He helped me edit

00:52:33.130 --> 00:52:37.150
a biography of mine that might come out. I'm

00:52:37.150 --> 00:52:39.730
not sure whether it would come out or not. We're

00:52:39.730 --> 00:52:43.389
doing a bit of editing for the secret stories.

00:52:44.449 --> 00:52:50.429
We wanted all the facts to be correct. So we

00:52:50.429 --> 00:52:53.110
had quite a few nights on the phone together

00:52:53.110 --> 00:52:58.320
in the weeks beforehand as well. And that whole

00:52:58.320 --> 00:53:01.519
story of you three mentioned, it meant a lot

00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:04.530
to me. personally as well because I lost my father

00:53:04.530 --> 00:53:07.030
last year and he couldn't talk the last sort

00:53:07.030 --> 00:53:09.010
of day could he and stuff like that and you know

00:53:09.010 --> 00:53:13.489
it's yeah it helps it really helps and it meant

00:53:13.489 --> 00:53:15.170
a lot to a lot of the fans because of course

00:53:15.170 --> 00:53:17.849
they I mean I have these long emails and of course

00:53:17.849 --> 00:53:20.070
they point their heart out to me knowing how

00:53:20.070 --> 00:53:24.869
much I love the group and things and it's helped

00:53:24.869 --> 00:53:27.309
a lot of people as well just the fact that you

00:53:27.309 --> 00:53:29.030
three managed to do that that was amazing but

00:53:29.030 --> 00:53:34.889
it really was. Athel Guy and Friends, that's

00:53:34.889 --> 00:53:36.849
a little thing you're doing in Australia. Tell

00:53:36.849 --> 00:53:40.909
us a bit about them. I've been doing lots of

00:53:40.909 --> 00:53:46.449
public speaking along the way. I converted a

00:53:46.449 --> 00:53:49.570
little mini documentary on the group with a lot

00:53:49.570 --> 00:53:52.730
of videos. I converted that into a nice live

00:53:52.730 --> 00:53:57.289
show with a couple of pals of mine. My husband

00:53:57.289 --> 00:54:00.940
and wife's duo and another... One of our former

00:54:00.940 --> 00:54:03.800
pop stars in Australia is what I call Buddy England.

00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:08.079
And Buddy had been over to the UK back in the

00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:10.840
60s as well. He was part of the transfer there.

00:54:12.260 --> 00:54:14.639
I had the offer. We have a lot of beautiful regional

00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:16.500
painters scattered all around Australia. There's

00:54:16.500 --> 00:54:20.800
about 100 of them. And yeah, not too similar

00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:25.099
to the regional painters you've got over there

00:54:25.099 --> 00:54:30.929
in the UK. And I was just offered. a lot of dates,

00:54:31.449 --> 00:54:33.289
but one stage of the game has a tour which I

00:54:33.289 --> 00:54:34.809
picked up on, and I said, well I'm not going

00:54:34.809 --> 00:54:39.250
to put a one man mini doco, and I asked my mates

00:54:39.250 --> 00:54:45.030
if they'd like to join me. So we put in live,

00:54:45.030 --> 00:54:48.090
you know, seven or eight of the songs into the

00:54:48.090 --> 00:54:51.050
visuals, so it's a combination of some of the

00:54:51.050 --> 00:54:54.150
live songs with a video background of a group

00:54:54.150 --> 00:54:56.570
that we can sing and then some of the live stuff.

00:54:57.579 --> 00:55:01.659
like the NME pole winners award concerts, and

00:55:01.659 --> 00:55:04.599
some of the other TV shows that we've done, including

00:55:04.599 --> 00:55:08.139
The Farewell. And we've also paid tribute to

00:55:08.139 --> 00:55:11.019
the other three girls that we've had join the

00:55:11.019 --> 00:55:13.119
group from time to time for some of those big

00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:16.340
events when Judith wasn't with us, but they were

00:55:16.340 --> 00:55:21.159
always wanting A -seekers, you know, song on

00:55:21.159 --> 00:55:24.059
their agenda, these various things. And they

00:55:24.059 --> 00:55:28.400
just naturally fell into that sort of pattern.

00:55:29.340 --> 00:55:31.920
And good musicians, lovely musicians, good singers.

00:55:32.539 --> 00:55:34.719
And we had a lot of fun, you know, those sort

00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:38.159
of sidelined things that went on for quite a

00:55:38.159 --> 00:55:41.480
few years actually. And I still get calls to

00:55:41.480 --> 00:55:43.260
book the group, but I'm not going there anymore

00:55:43.260 --> 00:55:46.639
at the moment. I've retired from that time. OK.

00:55:46.780 --> 00:55:49.139
Arthur, one very quick question, and I mean a

00:55:49.139 --> 00:55:53.719
quick one, is there any more sort of tapes? looming

00:55:53.719 --> 00:55:57.320
with Judith's voice, you know, that could perhaps

00:55:57.320 --> 00:56:02.360
have your voices and your backing on them. Is

00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:07.619
there anything else you're aware of? No, we've

00:56:07.619 --> 00:56:11.480
had three different releases through Universal

00:56:11.480 --> 00:56:17.079
Music called Hidden Treasures. That's stuff that

00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:20.320
we've found in filing cabinets and in garages,

00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:29.010
you know, videos and tapes. when we went there,

00:56:29.949 --> 00:56:32.510
and that was that we did a direct telecast first

00:56:32.510 --> 00:56:36.050
time by satellite back to Australia, of the Australia

00:56:36.050 --> 00:56:39.090
Day event there, and that was just sitting in

00:56:39.090 --> 00:56:43.969
a little case in a follow -up cabinet, and other

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concert versions that had never been put on,

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onto a DVD. Just a stack of other stuff, and

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I think that we worked a couple of sessions with

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our music director sort of looking forward to

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it. He thinks there were some other demos that

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Judith may have put down some years ago, probably

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about the same time she did Carry Me. So he's

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got a feeling that he also has a feeling that

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the tapes might have disintegrated. There may

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not be anything left, but we'll keep looking.

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we can only hope fingers crossed and just thank

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you so much for your time it means a lot to us

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and you know it really does and also to our listeners

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Apple thank you so much sir have a good weekend

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Thank you very much. As you know tonight is our

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last concert together and I'm afraid this next

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song is our last song together. And I guess at

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a time like this there are a lot of things that

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you could probably say but I think that really

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there are only two things and that is from all

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of us very very sincerely thank you thank you

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very very much and goodbye because I'm afraid

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tonight The carnival really is over. things.

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