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More from them in a bit. Chatterbox. When the

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stars talk, they talk to Nick and Sue. Welcome

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back to the Chatterbox Redux Podcast with Sue

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and Nick and today our special guest is Michael

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Armstrong. This is Nick and Sue with Chatterbox

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giving you all you need to know about musical

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entertainment. Oh yeah! Chatterbox! My next guest

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went from managing his family business to singing

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in front of the Queen. Good morning. Good morning.

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I'm covered in humus. This is a new record. Michael

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Armstrong. The Radio Years. I figured she was

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either in the music business or a serial grouping.

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Either way it was worth getting to know her better.

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Michael Armstrong, hugely anticipated because

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this guy's seriously good. And then McCartney

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is, you know, he's my hero. To meet him and to

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get to hang out with him and sing with him was

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just made everything worth it. I'm not sure I

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could ever top that, you know? You may well have

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heard Michael performing on Michael Ball's show

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in July or even on a Good Morning Sunday last

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month. I love the songs of... Paul McCartney

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of Bob Dylan. She touches my face, she murders

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a curse. I reach into her bag and I steal her

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purse. And I, you know, I just didn't want to,

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I didn't want to be on my deathbed and have any

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regrets. Joining us on the line now is Michael

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Armstrong. Great song great song. That's a good

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song. Look at my team applauding. That is very

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good I mean really really good Honestly, that's

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I've never heard that before and I was I was

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hooked Michael beautiful. Thank you so much.

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Absolutely beautiful Honestly the response to

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you coming into the show before you even said

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a word and now in Chatterbox UK We welcome back

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Michael Armstrong. Hello, sir. How are you? Hello

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Michael. Hi guys. Thank you very much for having

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me It's great, great, great to have you back.

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Now, I think you've been on Chatterbox UK a couple

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of times already and I seem to remember the first

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time you, I think it was your second album had

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come out, it had got in the UK album charts from

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memory and it was doing pretty good. We speak

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to you in the earlier part of summer at June

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time or something and you had a new album called

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Oh Hi. That's correct, yeah, well done. Thank

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you. Now, what we're talking about today is a

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single being brought out from Ojai. It's called

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Each Other's Eyes. But we're not just talking

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about a single, are we? It's sort of like, I

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think, congratulations, really. You got to number

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two, to my knowledge, of the US indie music singles

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chart. But in the Billboard Hot 100, number 18.

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I tell you what, it's all like a surreal for

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us, I don't know what it's like for you, because,

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you know, we speak regularly, we, you know, deal

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with each other quite, quite regularly through

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the business. And, you know, putting that aside,

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the before I knew it was actually you, these

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weird sort of like smoke signals were flying

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around, you know, the radio industry, the music

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world, all about this 47 -year -old dad who gets

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in the Bournemouth Hot 100 after 35 years of

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trying, or something like that, and it's you!

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Brilliant. It's me. It's me, I know, it's incredible.

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Yeah, I mean, yeah, and as... That news has actually

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been updated because the American charts are

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announced on a Friday and I find out a day or

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two before and we found out that the song has

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actually gone to number one in the indie music

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singles chart and up to number 17 in the top

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20. So yeah, really thrilled. It's been great.

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I drank a expensive bottle of champagne last

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night, I can tell you that. In fact, it was funny

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because about four weeks ago I'd heard that the

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song had got into the, I woke up. in the morning,

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I'm sitting in bed having a cup of tea and I

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check my phone and I got this email through saying

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that the track has gone to like number 35 or

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something in the indie music singles chart in

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America and I was like, wow, is this genuine?

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And I said to my wife, I'm number 35 in the American

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charts, we better get the champagne on ice. And

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she in a typical Sarah way said to me, we'll

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leave the champagne until it gets to number one.

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That's encouraging, thank you. And then we kind

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of heard it had climbed into the top 10 and then

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it was top five and then last week top two. And

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then yesterday morning I woke up and my wife

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had gone to work. and I found out that it was

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number one. So I just sent her a text saying,

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I've put the champagne in the fridge. And she

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came back to me and said, are you number one?

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I said, yeah, you're damn right. We had a good

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old party last night. I do like a quote that

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you've given. Quotations are saying, I'm an overnight

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success after 35 years of trying. you're like

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brilliant yeah that's yeah because you know actually

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someone quoted that and me and said how does

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it feel to be an overnight success and i thought

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are you kidding are you kidding me do you know

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the blood sweat and tears that have gone into

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this but i guess if no one knows you one day

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and then the next they do that's how they see

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it but yeah yeah 35 years is not quite overnight

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is it Not at all. It's brilliant. It just makes

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a good little punch point there, doesn't it?

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Obviously, we know that you were busy during

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the lockdown. There's indeed many of the artists

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that you do within your working world. But do

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you believe you would have still completed Ojai

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and got the single out? Had it not been for the

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lockdown, would you still have got that out,

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do you think? That's a tough question, actually.

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I mean, there's no doubt that Lockdown and being

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at home Enabled me to finish the album quicker

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than I would have done no question about it But

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so the answer is probably no not probably not

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not timing probably wouldn't have quite been

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the same and obviously timing is He's everything

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timing and luck, you know Because you know you

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can release something it can go nowhere one day

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and then the six months later something could

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happen to it So there's a lot of that. So yeah

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lockdown I think lockdown definitely helped.

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Most importantly it got me away from homeschooling

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making the album. That was my key objective because

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I've really struggled doing homeschooling with

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my youngest son and I thought if I had the excuse

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that I was actually making an album then I'd

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be able to get out of it and so that worked in

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my favour. No, you do obviously mention it's

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timing and luck. But of course, there is that

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element of skill. You've got to have that skill.

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You've got to be good at what you do, unless

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you're doing some novelty song, which you most

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definitely aren't. But of course, I do promote

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a few artists, as I think you know. Some of them

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have had hits in the 80s and 70s and before.

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And you know, as well as I do, how hard it is

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to get into Radio 2 to get a song played. You've

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achieved that. Says everything, doesn't it? Really?

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Yeah, that's down to Lisa, my partner here. She

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does an amazing job for me and knows the guys

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at Radio 2, so they've been good to me. America

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was unexpected and just didn't realise. To be

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honest, what I did was when my first album came

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out in 2015, Someone said to me that you know

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your music is really would sound good in America

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Americans are like it's got an American sound

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to it because I love those kind of West Coast

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artists and so one weekend I thought I would

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make an email list of radio stations and presenters

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in America people in America that basically do

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what you do here in the UK and I Thought I'd

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knock it out in a weekend, and it took me about

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six months because America is so damn huge that

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I decided to go state by state alphabetically

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and get emails of every single radio station

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it just took forever and I've always whenever

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I've released a single I've got this list so

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I think I might as well send it out and I've

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in the past I've had the odd kind of person from

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some station in Hawaii or something say yeah

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we're giving it a spin and oh that's cool but

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this time with this particular song it was picked

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up by a DJ in in New York Contacted me and said

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really like this we're gonna play it and pass

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it on to a few people and a few people became

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more people and it just kind of spread organically

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and And the radio charts in America, they're

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not done on great record sales like they are

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here. They're done on radio play So when you

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look at that indie music chart, I'm number one

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and some bloke would Ed Sheeran is number seven

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What times are they cheering in the last seven

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ask? I mean, you haven't crash landed yet and

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I hope that you stay at number one for a bit

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and let's hope that billboard pushes up a bit

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more as well. But to even get in the top 20 in

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the Build Top 100, I dread to think what AirPlay

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and what number of silos and downloads you've

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got to have just to achieve that. We know what

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it is roughly to get into the UK Top 100, but

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the billboard Top 100, Top 20, I would have no

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idea. What do I? I have no idea. People have

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been saying to me, what does it mean? What's

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going to happen? What does it mean? I've got

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no idea. I've never been here before. I don't

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know. you know i'm just enjoying the ride and

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you know whatever you know a number one anywhere

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just just to have that and to i'm going to print

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it out and frame it the chart you know what i

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mean because that's uh you can't you can't take

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that one away from me so yeah i'm very proud

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what's really lovely is is the people around

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me as well that's what's been so it's a bit of

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a cliche but i guess it's a cliche for a reason

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and that's people like my mum and dad and my

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wife and children and Lisa here, all these people

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who have worked so hard for me and wanted it

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so much for me. They're so proud. You know, they

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asked, you know, even I had a, you know, I'll

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drop some names now, Susie Quattro, who I work

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with. sent me an email yesterday saying that

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she was really proud of me and I thought that's

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a strange way why would she be proud you know

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proud I guess because we're associated and Dean

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Friedman who I toured with a few years ago called

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me called me last night I was in the pub celebrating

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he told me just to say what a fantastic achievement

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and things like that so you know it's yeah it's

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been really overwhelming but particularly my

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family and my mum and dad they're proud as punch

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so that means an awful lot to me Well, we're

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proud to have you among our music friends, you

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know? Bless you, thank you. Now I'm looking at

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the, you know, you mentioned a few people that

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you are like higher than Ed Sheeran, but of course,

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you know, we could say higher than Billy Eilish,

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but what we're not looking at is the bigger picture

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of Billy Eilish. We are talking about the theme

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to the brand new Bond film, which isn't out yet,

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and you're higher! That's fantastic. That takes

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a doing. Billy Eilish is really lucky isn't she?

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I mean she recorded that theme and they released

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the song whenever it was 18 months ago and it

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topped the charts or whatever and because the

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films had to be popped back several times she

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gets another shot and it gets to come out again

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and go all over again. I mean that's going to

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be the most successful Bond theme ever, great

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stuff. Well, it wasn't until the last Bond film

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that they actually had a number one, believe

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it or not. It was only the last one. Is that

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true? I didn't know that. That's a pubquease

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fact for you. Thanks for that one. I like that.

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Anyway, Mike, what is next? We're hoping this

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goes on for a good few weeks and you're in charge

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for a long time. But what's next? Is there anything

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else off the Ohio album or what do we think?

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Well, I mean, in terms of the American thing,

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I've got to capitalize on that and certainly

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get another track out over there. It would be

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madness not to. So I think we'll probably do

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a radio edit of what was the first single in

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the UK, a song called Matters Apart from the

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album. So we'll do a radio edit of that because

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America really even funnier than english radio

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stations they really want it to be no more than

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three minutes 30 seconds for these stations and

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you can have no long introduction you've got

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to be right in there so i need to chop chop and

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change that one a little bit so that's the plan

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over there and i'd certainly like to go and visit

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hopefully next year when uh when things are opening

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up again uh the um the uh virus is picking up

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a little bit again in the states at the moment

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and some people i know over there are having

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to cancel cancelled gigs, so still a little bit

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precarious for getting over there. Here, yeah,

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I've got plans for another album. I haven't quite

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got around to starting it yet. I know what I

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need to do, but I've been so busy that I haven't

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had the chance to sit down and make music, which

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is what I love doing more than anything else,

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being in the studio. So I've got some plans.

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I've got like a little kind of five -year plan,

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actually, of what I intend to do. um whether

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i can achieve that we'll we'll see wait and see

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plenty of interviews coming up then i think right

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websites facebook everything social media how

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do people find you please sir uh well the website

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is michaelarmstrongmusic .co .uk and uh michael

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armstrong music is that is the thing to look

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for on facebook and instagram and spotify and

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all those kind of things and uh yeah he popped

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up my name in and My ugly mug will pop up somewhere,

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I'm sure. Did you mention YouTube? YouTube, Michael

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Armstrong Music's on YouTube, yeah, YouTube as

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well, yeah, they're all there, yeah. Perfect.

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Every success with this wonderful American run.

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Fantastic news, isn't it? Absolutely amazing.

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It's very rare that I'm stuck to think the same

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thing. Amazing news. I was like that for a couple

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of days. I'd say everyone else around me is getting

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like crazy. It's very surreal, like I've been

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hit by a bus or something. It's slowly sinking

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in. number one now do you get like something

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to say you're number one do you get a certificate

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what's what do you actually get to say that you've

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achieved number one well i mean i've got them

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i've got the official chart printout and the

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chart with all the details on it other than that

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i don't know i've never been here before it's

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been an absolute pleasure and we look forward

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i've got a feeling you're going to be a regular

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on chatterbox uk and we look forward to the next

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time we really do thank you Thank you. I do too.

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Thanks so much for having me. I appreciate it.

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