WEBVTT 00:00:01.619 --> 00:00:04.559 This edition of the Chatterbox Redux podcast 00:00:04.559 --> 00:00:06.620 is brought to you in association with the Strong 00:00:06.620 --> 00:00:31.519 Coffee Company. More from them in a bit. Welcome 00:00:31.519 --> 00:00:34.020 back to the Chatterbox Redux Podcast with Sue 00:00:34.020 --> 00:00:37.320 and Nick and today our special guest is Parry 00:00:37.320 --> 00:01:12.969 Wray. This is Nick and Sue with Chatterbox giving 00:01:12.969 --> 00:01:17.629 you all you need to know about musical entertainment. 00:01:19.250 --> 00:01:38.870 Oh yeah, Chatterbox! And now in Chatterbox we're 00:01:38.870 --> 00:01:40.950 just lucky enough to welcome Pari Wray. Pari, 00:01:41.030 --> 00:01:44.030 welcome to Chatterbox. How are you? I'm so well. 00:01:44.090 --> 00:01:46.590 Thanks so much both for having me. I really, 00:01:46.590 --> 00:01:49.310 really appreciate it. Feeling a little bit warm 00:01:49.310 --> 00:01:52.909 today as we discussed earlier. It's soaring temperatures 00:01:52.909 --> 00:01:55.310 in the UK. I know. I'll tell you what though, 00:01:55.409 --> 00:01:57.849 give me 40 degrees in the Caribbean or random 00:01:57.849 --> 00:02:01.010 air, I'm fine. Yes, me too. Give me 30 in the 00:02:01.010 --> 00:02:05.890 UK. This problem is incredible. Yes, I know. 00:02:07.299 --> 00:02:10.599 Absolutely, absolutely. The infrastructure isn't 00:02:10.599 --> 00:02:13.620 made for it, is it? But we're going to have to 00:02:13.620 --> 00:02:16.560 adapt because we're not in control, I don't think. 00:02:16.900 --> 00:02:18.639 I don't think it's going to go back any time 00:02:18.639 --> 00:02:19.939 soon. I think we're going to get more and more 00:02:19.939 --> 00:02:24.020 hot summers. I agree. I agree. Yes. The most 00:02:24.020 --> 00:02:27.939 important thing is we're here and we got sent 00:02:27.939 --> 00:02:33.080 a fantastic single. of yours from Lisa Davies 00:02:33.080 --> 00:02:36.020 Promotions. Yes, they're wonderful. Bristol, 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:38.719 well they are, we work with them a lot. And Bristol 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:41.199 Baines, it sounds fantastic, we both really liked 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:44.439 it. Oh, thank you. But before we talk about Bristol 00:02:44.439 --> 00:02:49.539 Rains, let's talk about you. You did just become 00:02:49.539 --> 00:02:52.400 Parry Ray, the singer that we see today. So tell 00:02:52.400 --> 00:02:55.400 us about childhood influences. What did you listen 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:57.840 to as a kid? What's being played at home? I think 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:00.620 you grew up in a Bengali household in London. 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:04.659 Yes, yes, that's right. Yeah, my parents are 00:03:04.659 --> 00:03:08.539 both from West Bengal and they came over and 00:03:08.539 --> 00:03:12.020 studied and stayed and built a life. My father 00:03:12.020 --> 00:03:15.139 actually always dreamt of coming to London. I 00:03:15.139 --> 00:03:17.479 think that was his thing. So it was like he hit 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:20.560 the jackpot when he came here. I was born here. 00:03:20.979 --> 00:03:23.500 Honestly, I don't remember a time we didn't have 00:03:23.500 --> 00:03:28.219 music playing in the house. My mother was a little 00:03:28.219 --> 00:03:30.439 bit more sort of, I think she liked to think 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:33.349 of herself as more intellectual. Discerning so 00:03:33.349 --> 00:03:35.430 she'd be much more the classical route whether 00:03:35.430 --> 00:03:38.009 it was Western classical music or Indian classical 00:03:38.009 --> 00:03:41.939 music. I think I got my Breath of listening from 00:03:41.939 --> 00:03:45.860 my father. So he would love anything from rock 00:03:45.860 --> 00:03:50.520 and roll Marty while he adored Lulu Like I never 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:55.419 saw my father move so quickly If Lulu was on 00:03:55.419 --> 00:03:58.479 the TV, he was like a sprinter it was incredible 00:03:58.479 --> 00:04:01.599 and we listened to a lot of classical music We 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:04.000 listened to a lot of it back in the day Hindi 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:06.819 movie music, which now of course is Bollywood. 00:04:06.979 --> 00:04:11.110 So And I remember that from really little. So 00:04:11.110 --> 00:04:16.110 about three, really. And another great love of 00:04:16.110 --> 00:04:20.170 mine was musical theatre. I loved the escapism 00:04:20.170 --> 00:04:25.290 of musical theatre and the writing. And in my 00:04:25.290 --> 00:04:28.110 mind, I was always going to be in a musical theatre 00:04:28.110 --> 00:04:30.589 production. So that's still pending on the list 00:04:30.589 --> 00:04:33.990 and high kicking my way through something like 00:04:33.990 --> 00:04:36.050 Chicago or something like that. Although I'm 00:04:36.050 --> 00:04:38.129 not sure I can high kick. I might have to try 00:04:38.129 --> 00:04:42.329 after this. chat. Don't worry, I won't subject 00:04:42.329 --> 00:04:45.269 you to that. I started playing the piano when 00:04:45.269 --> 00:04:49.269 I was two, the guitar when I was ten and I started 00:04:49.269 --> 00:04:52.470 writing a lot of poetry. I'm an only child and 00:04:52.470 --> 00:04:57.110 my parents work full time and so I'm very comfortable 00:04:57.110 --> 00:05:01.509 in my own skin and I very early doors learnt 00:05:01.509 --> 00:05:05.329 to sort of delve into my own imagination so I 00:05:05.329 --> 00:05:09.029 always had a book. a pad of paper and a pen and 00:05:09.029 --> 00:05:11.649 I started writing poetry and because I think 00:05:11.649 --> 00:05:15.509 there was so much music around me that quickly 00:05:15.509 --> 00:05:18.449 translated into song. I think I wrote my proper 00:05:18.449 --> 00:05:23.269 first song when I was about 11. And the exciting 00:05:23.269 --> 00:05:26.189 thing when I hit about 10 or 11, I had a guitar 00:05:26.189 --> 00:05:30.199 teacher who was a jazz musician. and he introduced 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:33.319 me to jazz and at the same time I started listening 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:36.459 to a lot of pop and my brain just kind of went 00:05:36.459 --> 00:05:40.240 wha and it was like oh okay there's not just 00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:43.759 this much music there's kind of this much music 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:49.029 and I think the love for it was planted long 00:05:49.029 --> 00:05:51.529 ago, you know? I mean, probably the same as you 00:05:51.529 --> 00:05:54.189 guys. I'm guessing that you adore music and listen 00:05:54.189 --> 00:05:58.910 to a wide spectrum. And it's a wonderful thing, 00:05:59.050 --> 00:06:04.670 right? It's so evocative and emotive and regardless 00:06:04.670 --> 00:06:06.990 of whether you write it or you just listen. I 00:06:06.990 --> 00:06:09.470 mean, sometimes I just love just listening to 00:06:09.470 --> 00:06:13.980 stuff and... rediscovering things that I haven't 00:06:13.980 --> 00:06:16.660 listened to in like 10 years or listening to 00:06:16.660 --> 00:06:18.699 something going, oh my God, who is that? Where's 00:06:18.699 --> 00:06:22.680 my Shazam? I need to know who that is now. So 00:06:22.680 --> 00:06:26.100 yes, it's always been, it was always a strong 00:06:26.100 --> 00:06:31.120 thread through my upbringing really. Quite eclectic, 00:06:31.319 --> 00:06:34.480 like with me. I can find good and bad in everything 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:37.439 from classical music right through to punk. Agreed. 00:06:37.439 --> 00:06:40.740 I can, I really can. I can find very bad as well, 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:43.120 but literally across the board. So it's quite 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:44.939 interesting you should say that your mum had 00:06:44.939 --> 00:06:47.939 the classical side, your dad had the rock and 00:06:47.939 --> 00:06:50.379 roll side. So fortunately there was no strictness 00:06:50.379 --> 00:06:53.529 there, so you really were opened up to... everything, 00:06:53.529 --> 00:06:57.629 as it were. I was, yeah, I really was. And you're 00:06:57.629 --> 00:06:59.850 a lonely child as well. I'm a lonely child. My 00:06:59.850 --> 00:07:02.110 son's a lonely child. Tim's a lonely child for 00:07:02.110 --> 00:07:06.649 you. My dad was, so yeah. But cleverest people 00:07:06.649 --> 00:07:09.589 are only children, sorry. I was actually going 00:07:09.589 --> 00:07:11.709 to say we're a special tribe, but I don't know 00:07:11.709 --> 00:07:13.629 if that makes us sound like we're special needs. 00:07:13.870 --> 00:07:16.389 But I think we are built in a certain way. There 00:07:16.389 --> 00:07:19.889 is a resiliency, I think, that gets built in. 00:07:20.209 --> 00:07:23.060 Yeah. Which is not a bad thing at all. Well, 00:07:24.500 --> 00:07:30.040 as a child, my mother worked nights as well. 00:07:30.139 --> 00:07:33.220 My dad was out all day on the road being a book 00:07:33.220 --> 00:07:37.680 rep for children's books. It gave me an opportunity 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:41.689 to discover record collections. Yes. Oh, yes. 00:07:42.269 --> 00:07:43.930 Fantastic stuff in the fifties and the sixties. 00:07:44.550 --> 00:07:47.689 So I learned to love the Seekers before I knew 00:07:47.689 --> 00:07:50.850 who Judith Thuram was or, you know, didn't really. 00:07:51.050 --> 00:07:53.230 I mean, to me, they were as important as the 00:07:53.230 --> 00:07:55.350 Beatles because there was just another record 00:07:55.350 --> 00:07:58.209 I was playing. But so I really learned it. I 00:07:58.209 --> 00:08:01.290 found my own footing there. And that's great, 00:08:01.490 --> 00:08:03.910 because I think like so many things in life, 00:08:04.110 --> 00:08:08.000 there's no right way. to sort of educate yourself 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:12.319 or enjoy music. It's kind of like it's whatever 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:15.540 moves you or makes you feel good or the beauty 00:08:15.540 --> 00:08:19.000 of music is whatever moves you're in you will 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:21.120 you'll have something in your collection that 00:08:21.120 --> 00:08:24.839 will just hit the spot at that time. It's so 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:26.829 immersive. I agree and I think when it comes 00:08:26.829 --> 00:08:30.149 to Chatterbox, this is how we have such a wide 00:08:30.149 --> 00:08:33.090 range of guests. And now we're six years in, 00:08:33.490 --> 00:08:36.409 all those stations have got so used to us having 00:08:36.409 --> 00:08:39.409 classically trained people. You mentioned Marty 00:08:39.409 --> 00:08:42.149 Wilde, he is the most interviewed guest. Over 00:08:42.149 --> 00:08:43.669 the years I've interviewed him, I think it's 00:08:43.669 --> 00:08:46.830 18 times now. Oh wow. You know, you mentioned 00:08:46.830 --> 00:08:48.909 him, so it shows you how wide it could be. And 00:08:48.909 --> 00:08:51.029 we've seen him live. and we've seen him live. 00:08:51.590 --> 00:08:54.129 Robert Emery, he's with Royal Philharmonic now, 00:08:54.149 --> 00:08:56.889 so we go back to the classical there. Or we've 00:08:56.889 --> 00:08:59.649 got an actor that was in Neighbours for years, 00:08:59.690 --> 00:09:02.750 so we then go that way, and he's brought out 00:09:02.750 --> 00:09:07.330 some stuff. So it's across the board. As long 00:09:07.330 --> 00:09:10.529 as it's got that standard that people are not 00:09:10.529 --> 00:09:13.490 going to switch off to. So we've got 230 radio 00:09:13.490 --> 00:09:16.009 stations listening to a conductor for the Royal 00:09:16.009 --> 00:09:17.590 Philharmonic of Yorkshire, talking about his 00:09:17.590 --> 00:09:20.230 job. I'm not aware of anyone switching off, so 00:09:20.230 --> 00:09:23.730 that's what makes interesting radio. Yes, congratulations 00:09:23.730 --> 00:09:26.169 by the way. How wonderful that you guys have 00:09:26.169 --> 00:09:28.250 been going for so long and building in such a 00:09:28.250 --> 00:09:30.370 wonderful way. We started with 12 didn't we? 00:09:30.529 --> 00:09:32.149 Thank you. We started with 12 didn't we? Yeah. 00:09:32.389 --> 00:09:34.570 But it's the guests that make it, it's not us. 00:09:35.029 --> 00:09:37.070 We do the choosing and keep the standards high, 00:09:37.309 --> 00:09:40.110 but of course it is the guests that produce the 00:09:40.110 --> 00:09:43.870 stuff that we play and talk about. So yeah. So 00:09:43.870 --> 00:09:46.950 you think of it, let's put it back on you. Well, 00:09:47.190 --> 00:09:51.330 I think it's a collaboration, right? And I think 00:09:51.330 --> 00:09:54.289 that's the beautiful thing about music. It's 00:09:54.289 --> 00:09:56.830 wonderful about a conversation like this. And 00:09:56.830 --> 00:10:01.080 also just about being... a human being you know 00:10:01.080 --> 00:10:04.059 we like to connect we like to communicate and 00:10:04.059 --> 00:10:06.940 we we love to collaborate and going back to being 00:10:06.940 --> 00:10:10.419 an only child yes there are certain quirks certainly 00:10:10.419 --> 00:10:12.980 of being an only child you know only children 00:10:12.980 --> 00:10:15.840 but um i really do feel the reason we're here 00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:19.940 is to connect in lots of different ways and a 00:10:19.940 --> 00:10:23.120 lot of great musicians uh pop ones right through 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:26.820 uh have been only children as well uh mongo jerry 00:10:37.000 --> 00:10:43.320 We've got this song Bristol Rains but now what 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:46.720 was the first song you brought out and what have 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:49.559 you done? Do you do any live stuff at all? Oh 00:10:49.559 --> 00:10:51.559 yes I do and what was the first song I brought 00:10:51.559 --> 00:10:56.769 up? Gosh that was a long time ago. I have a number 00:10:56.769 --> 00:11:00.470 of albums and EPs that I've brought out over 00:11:00.470 --> 00:11:03.509 the years. I think what's exciting about Bristol 00:11:03.509 --> 00:11:07.879 Rains is It's the first single from an original 00:11:07.879 --> 00:11:10.480 album and I haven't written an original album 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:14.980 for over 10 years. I don't know if I was stuck 00:11:14.980 --> 00:11:18.440 or I didn't have a lot to say but something was 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:21.360 happening and I was I was bringing out other 00:11:21.360 --> 00:11:24.480 stuff because apart from writing my own music 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:29.240 I love taking like I have an album called Know 00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:33.539 the Way Back where I took a lot of 80s covers. 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:37.399 I love 80s music and basically pulled it apart 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:39.600 and put it back together again with an incredible 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:43.299 team and sort of reharmonize things and kind 00:11:43.299 --> 00:11:47.080 of jazzified it a little bit but not jazz in 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:50.509 the bebop. intellectual jazz kind of way, still 00:11:50.509 --> 00:11:53.809 really retaining the integrity of the song, because 00:11:53.809 --> 00:11:57.370 I think that's what I really, really love. And 00:11:57.370 --> 00:12:00.610 I sort of covered David Bowie, Prince, The Cure, 00:12:00.789 --> 00:12:03.570 Blondie, like a whole host of things. With regards 00:12:03.570 --> 00:12:07.460 to live stuff, I do Boys' Dales of... Belgravia, 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:10.240 if anyone's in London, reasonably regularly. 00:12:10.659 --> 00:12:13.019 I'm there, I was there a few weeks ago and I'm 00:12:13.019 --> 00:12:16.000 back next week on the 15th of July. So if you're 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:18.200 free, come on down. It'd be lovely to see you. 00:12:18.830 --> 00:12:21.090 Belgravia's quite snazzy, isn't it, really? Oh, 00:12:21.129 --> 00:12:25.750 I'm quite snazzy person, you know. You tell the 00:12:25.750 --> 00:12:27.870 outsider looking in, quite snazzy, isn't it? 00:12:29.690 --> 00:12:33.870 Obviously, we know Belgravia's well to do. Well, 00:12:33.929 --> 00:12:36.409 maybe we should call it Victoria. I mean, it 00:12:36.409 --> 00:12:39.730 is Victoria, isn't it? No, no, no, we go Belgravia 00:12:39.730 --> 00:12:42.710 because Victoria's my ex -wife's name, so we're 00:12:42.710 --> 00:12:45.379 going to stick to Belgravia. Ah, okay, definitely. 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:49.019 We'll definitely delete that. Deleted Belgravia. 00:12:49.120 --> 00:12:54.019 All the way. All the way. Very good. Nick and 00:12:54.019 --> 00:12:55.840 Sue. We're taking a quick break to talk about 00:12:55.840 --> 00:12:58.740 the fuel behind today's episode. If you're like 00:12:58.740 --> 00:13:01.299 me, coffee isn't just a morning ritual, it's 00:13:01.299 --> 00:13:04.120 a necessity. But let's be honest, the traditional 00:13:04.120 --> 00:13:06.759 coffee cycle usually ends up in a mid -afternoon 00:13:06.759 --> 00:13:10.019 crash. Or those caffeine jitters that actually 00:13:10.019 --> 00:13:13.549 make it harder to focus. 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Yeah, so 00:15:57.600 --> 00:16:02.000 what happened was My manager Carly Martin Gammon 00:16:02.000 --> 00:16:05.379 is just the most wonderful woman and has been 00:16:05.379 --> 00:16:08.299 steering my ship for a very long time and I thank 00:16:08.299 --> 00:16:12.120 my lucky stars that you know, we've we're very 00:16:12.120 --> 00:16:14.879 good friends and she has been professionally 00:16:14.879 --> 00:16:19.279 with me for I would say nearly 20 years actually 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:24.500 if it's not 20 years and It's great because she 00:16:24.500 --> 00:16:28.730 really understands who I am and what I want to 00:16:28.730 --> 00:16:31.590 do and my taste for different things and the 00:16:31.590 --> 00:16:34.649 exploration and curiosity I have around my sort 00:16:34.649 --> 00:16:38.669 of expression. And I was in Nashville in 2021 00:16:38.669 --> 00:16:42.750 for five days. and I got off the plane and immediately 00:16:42.750 --> 00:16:46.450 it was like some strange something in the air 00:16:46.450 --> 00:16:49.470 and I thought I really like it here like there's 00:16:49.470 --> 00:16:51.970 something earthy that's connected there's something 00:16:51.970 --> 00:16:54.450 here and I just said to her well look if there's 00:16:54.450 --> 00:16:57.529 ever an opportunity for me to write or explore 00:16:57.529 --> 00:17:02.649 or we can find any sort of collaboration no pressure 00:17:02.649 --> 00:17:05.789 then I'd love to go and then at the end of 2023 00:17:05.789 --> 00:17:08.809 she said to me How do you fancy booking a flight 00:17:08.809 --> 00:17:13.250 to Nashville? And I said, what? And she said, 00:17:13.450 --> 00:17:16.130 yeah, send your bio and your voice and some songs 00:17:16.130 --> 00:17:18.950 to some people. So I've set up some writing sessions. 00:17:19.150 --> 00:17:22.269 Do you fancy going? And I was like, yes. So what 00:17:22.269 --> 00:17:25.910 was really exciting is this album, and this track 00:17:25.910 --> 00:17:29.490 is the first single from the album, started at 00:17:29.490 --> 00:17:34.410 the beginning of 2023 really as an exploration 00:17:34.410 --> 00:17:36.950 and experiment because I really didn't know what 00:17:36.950 --> 00:17:40.990 was happening what could happen and I think the 00:17:40.990 --> 00:17:43.910 reason I wanted to go was I know it's music city 00:17:43.910 --> 00:17:48.809 it's not just country music and I love mixing 00:17:48.809 --> 00:17:52.170 people of different musical experience different 00:17:52.170 --> 00:17:54.789 backgrounds you know I love getting to into a 00:17:54.789 --> 00:17:58.670 room of diverse characters and personalities 00:17:58.670 --> 00:18:01.490 and musical taste and just seeing what happens 00:18:01.490 --> 00:18:05.089 not not to force something but just to see if 00:18:05.089 --> 00:18:08.569 there's some synergy and my lord there was a 00:18:08.569 --> 00:18:11.670 lot of synergy and it was like this magical road 00:18:11.670 --> 00:18:14.829 that just unfolded in a beautiful way wrote some 00:18:14.829 --> 00:18:17.529 tracks the first time but I wasn't there for 00:18:17.529 --> 00:18:20.329 very long went back later in the year finished 00:18:20.329 --> 00:18:25.549 writing And then kind of last year went back, 00:18:25.809 --> 00:18:28.970 finished things off, found producers, found bands 00:18:28.970 --> 00:18:31.150 and recorded the whole thing out there because 00:18:31.150 --> 00:18:35.069 it was just, it felt like it was born there. 00:18:35.230 --> 00:18:38.269 So it made sense to do the whole thing there. 00:18:38.470 --> 00:18:41.029 I mean, I'm very lucky because here I get my 00:18:41.029 --> 00:18:44.970 band are incredible. I get to work with the most 00:18:44.970 --> 00:18:48.130 wonderful musicians wherever I go. And I feel 00:18:48.130 --> 00:18:50.410 like different projects call for different things. 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:55.700 This for me is a very This was me expressing 00:18:55.700 --> 00:18:59.700 myself in the most unfiltered way and what was 00:18:59.700 --> 00:19:03.420 really lovely was these lovely friends and colleagues 00:19:03.420 --> 00:19:07.500 whom I met Really encouraged that and I think 00:19:07.500 --> 00:19:09.579 I was ready for it as well You know, I think 00:19:09.579 --> 00:19:11.799 we are presented with certain things at moments 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:15.869 in life where We go, yeah, this is this is the 00:19:15.869 --> 00:19:17.789 right step. Like always, I'm always thinking 00:19:17.789 --> 00:19:20.250 about the best next step. I can't think too far 00:19:20.250 --> 00:19:24.109 ahead. And it's just have you been you must go. 00:19:24.170 --> 00:19:27.910 If you haven't been, you must go. It's just wonderful. 00:19:28.190 --> 00:19:30.630 And then you're talking about your standards, 00:19:30.670 --> 00:19:35.589 which is so impressive. Everybody there is of 00:19:35.589 --> 00:19:37.710 such a high status like the buskers in the street 00:19:37.710 --> 00:19:43.410 are incredible and. yeah there's so much music 00:19:43.410 --> 00:19:46.549 so much music it's wonderful we have actually 00:19:46.549 --> 00:19:50.250 believe it or not uh actually interviewed a busker 00:19:50.250 --> 00:19:53.730 from Nashville and she did the most amazing honky 00:19:53.730 --> 00:19:58.529 tonk stuff and incredible incredible yes wow 00:19:58.529 --> 00:20:01.529 yeah we really have so yeah yes that's great 00:20:01.529 --> 00:20:04.349 yeah so it's good radio you know it really did 00:20:04.349 --> 00:20:07.509 yeah of course i think um yeah so and what was 00:20:07.509 --> 00:20:13.359 really great was i wanted to Whilst my voice 00:20:13.359 --> 00:20:17.200 is kind of sweet and clear, like back in the 00:20:17.200 --> 00:20:20.099 day I wish I sounded like Pink or Joan Jett and 00:20:20.099 --> 00:20:23.339 I had some grit and I wish I'd had one of those 00:20:23.339 --> 00:20:28.039 big belty voices and I don't, but it lends itself 00:20:28.039 --> 00:20:32.259 to jazz really well and so my voice sounds as 00:20:32.259 --> 00:20:35.359 it sounds, but I didn't want us to be hemmed 00:20:35.359 --> 00:20:39.140 in by... creating a formula of how we wanted 00:20:39.140 --> 00:20:42.700 things to sound. I wanted really to see what 00:20:42.700 --> 00:20:46.380 happened in the writing session and where each 00:20:46.380 --> 00:20:51.660 song took us. Lyrics come to me a lot. I'm constantly 00:20:51.660 --> 00:20:58.779 writing lyrics and I really wanted to be true 00:20:58.779 --> 00:21:01.960 to, let the lyrics guide us musically rather 00:21:01.960 --> 00:21:03.539 than the other way around, rather than trying 00:21:03.539 --> 00:21:05.299 to fit something into a box. Do you know what 00:21:05.299 --> 00:21:08.369 I mean? Which is a really impressive skill when 00:21:08.369 --> 00:21:11.990 people can do that, but I'm not wired that way. 00:21:12.769 --> 00:21:16.170 Okay, one question about Bristol Rains. What 00:21:16.170 --> 00:21:20.329 is the Bristol in Bristol Rains? Oh, the Bristol 00:21:20.329 --> 00:21:24.789 is actually Bristol. It is our Bristol. I was 00:21:24.789 --> 00:21:30.569 at uni in Bristol. line from the chorus Bristol 00:21:30.569 --> 00:21:34.849 Rains are calling me home comes from a very happy 00:21:34.849 --> 00:21:37.849 memory I had when I was in halls of residence 00:21:37.849 --> 00:21:41.309 and we were out and about in Clifton and we were 00:21:41.309 --> 00:21:43.829 running back to, well we heading back to halls 00:21:43.829 --> 00:21:46.609 of residence for dinner and there was an almighty 00:21:46.609 --> 00:21:51.789 rainstorm and I just remember laughing and running 00:21:51.789 --> 00:21:54.630 and being soaked to the, like it was really big 00:21:54.630 --> 00:22:00.069 raindrops and I wanted to write a song about 00:22:00.069 --> 00:22:03.769 sort of reclaiming your voice and realizing even 00:22:03.769 --> 00:22:06.170 though we can be brought to our knees sometimes 00:22:06.170 --> 00:22:08.730 and lose sight of who we are and you know we 00:22:08.730 --> 00:22:10.910 all face challenges through life and we feel 00:22:10.910 --> 00:22:15.089 like our voices may be taken from us and it was 00:22:15.089 --> 00:22:18.450 it was it's really about finding those things 00:22:18.450 --> 00:22:22.789 again and a reclamation of self and I wanted 00:22:22.789 --> 00:22:26.119 to underpin it with a happy memory for me. So 00:22:26.119 --> 00:22:28.519 the intention was kind of infused in the lyrics. 00:22:28.519 --> 00:22:31.019 So that's where that comes from That's cool. 00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:32.940 And also we got quite a following down in Bristol 00:22:32.940 --> 00:22:36.799 as well. So Very important for them. So they'll 00:22:36.799 --> 00:22:43.039 they'll I love Bristol It's the big city down 00:22:43.039 --> 00:22:45.279 that end isn't it? You know, it's like like our 00:22:45.279 --> 00:22:46.900 way we've got Brighton and of course, we've got 00:22:46.900 --> 00:22:49.799 London up the road over there is Bristol is it 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:52.940 that is that is the Bristol is great and also 00:22:52.940 --> 00:22:55.079 they have such incredible, I mean culturally 00:22:55.079 --> 00:22:59.720 it's great and musically it's so you know vibrant 00:22:59.720 --> 00:23:02.640 it's yeah it's a wonderful city, well as is Brighton 00:23:02.640 --> 00:23:05.319 actually. We're very lucky in this country there 00:23:05.319 --> 00:23:09.220 are so many great towns and cities. But we, it 00:23:09.220 --> 00:23:10.740 was Sue's birthday on Monday and we actually 00:23:10.740 --> 00:23:13.450 took a shopping in Brighton. But I appreciate 00:23:13.450 --> 00:23:15.970 that the art scene is incredible as well. But 00:23:15.970 --> 00:23:19.750 this is how lucky we are now. We might moan about 00:23:19.750 --> 00:23:22.890 the train may take an hour and 20 or an hour 00:23:22.890 --> 00:23:25.650 and a half to get to Charing Cross from Hastings. 00:23:25.869 --> 00:23:31.509 We can drive to Brighton and it's 35 miles. We 00:23:31.509 --> 00:23:33.829 might moan it takes an hour or something. But 00:23:33.829 --> 00:23:35.650 in reality, there's people listening in other 00:23:35.650 --> 00:23:37.029 countries. They're going to be thinking, we're 00:23:37.029 --> 00:23:40.289 in some other places. Imagine the Australian 00:23:40.289 --> 00:23:45.559 station. And he's talking about an hour, but 00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:48.180 people, British people, English people, British 00:23:48.180 --> 00:23:50.079 people, they do moan about how long it takes. 00:23:51.319 --> 00:23:54.019 When we look at countries like Canada, we've 00:23:54.019 --> 00:23:55.799 got a couple of stations. But you imagine how 00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:58.259 wide apart the cities are there. And they wonder 00:23:58.259 --> 00:23:59.740 what on earth we're talking about. They might 00:23:59.740 --> 00:24:03.119 be traveling on a train for a day. Totally, totally. 00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:06.759 Yeah, no, absolutely. I think we're lucky, though, 00:24:06.819 --> 00:24:09.240 with the transport links. But also, like, spending 00:24:09.240 --> 00:24:12.400 time in the States, their culture is so different. 00:24:12.559 --> 00:24:15.339 And it's like, I mean, they'd travel two and 00:24:15.339 --> 00:24:17.460 a half hours for lunch. And I'm like, really? 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:20.859 I mean, why, why would we do that? You know, 00:24:22.660 --> 00:24:25.240 yes, and I'm Nashville's not really a walking 00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:28.019 city. So, but when I go there, I really try and 00:24:28.019 --> 00:24:31.759 walk. So, but then people do come up to me and 00:24:31.759 --> 00:24:34.039 they kind of go, are you okay? And I'm like, 00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:36.640 yes, I'm absolutely. They're like, but you and 00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:38.779 I'm like, no, no, I'm walking because I just 00:24:38.779 --> 00:24:41.380 want to get my steps in because we do have a 00:24:41.380 --> 00:24:44.539 very different mentality and their transport 00:24:44.539 --> 00:24:48.500 links on aren't the same. And yeah. It's fascinating, 00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:52.539 it's fascinating. 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By buying this product, you're 00:27:18.470 --> 00:27:20.589 not only supporting the companies that work with 00:27:20.589 --> 00:27:23.569 us, or just supporting the channel, you're also 00:27:23.569 --> 00:27:25.849 joining the Chatterbox community's commitment 00:27:25.849 --> 00:27:28.750 to the environment. 1 % of all commissions are 00:27:28.750 --> 00:27:31.509 donated to the Stripe Climate Program to help 00:27:31.509 --> 00:27:46.710 remove CO2 from the atmosphere. Now I see here, 00:27:46.990 --> 00:27:50.869 you've in 2018, you launched a podcast series 00:27:50.869 --> 00:27:53.789 called About Last Night. Tell us a bit about 00:27:53.789 --> 00:27:57.470 that. That's right. Well, I realize I wanted 00:27:57.470 --> 00:28:02.930 to do a podcast and I am I'm fascinated with 00:28:02.930 --> 00:28:06.069 how people tune into their sort of internal contentment 00:28:06.069 --> 00:28:09.910 and joy and happiness. And joy for me has been 00:28:09.910 --> 00:28:13.880 I can access my in internal joy very easily and 00:28:13.880 --> 00:28:16.480 I feel very lucky to do that because you know 00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:19.279 as I mentioned we all have twists and turns in 00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:23.839 our lives right that and I think that whilst 00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:27.180 I love playing with the darkness as a songwriter 00:28:27.180 --> 00:28:30.640 and an artist it's important to know you have 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:35.759 an exit route within yourself so I wanted to 00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:40.279 do something that combined creativity and joy 00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:43.619 and I realized that I was lucky enough to have 00:28:43.619 --> 00:28:47.539 in my circle of friends and people I knew a number 00:28:47.539 --> 00:28:51.079 of people who were really excellent in what they 00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:55.279 did and there was a creative leaning so I really 00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:57.559 wanted to have a conversation firstly because 00:28:57.559 --> 00:29:00.039 I'm curious and I love hearing about other people's 00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:03.759 lives and also give them a bit of a platform 00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:08.140 but also to find out how they tap into joy and 00:29:08.140 --> 00:29:11.160 how they find joy in what they do, but also who 00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:14.240 they are. I think it's more and more important 00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:17.059 day on day. You know, we live in a, we live in 00:29:17.059 --> 00:29:21.539 rather a chaotic world these days. So finding 00:29:21.539 --> 00:29:23.960 your inner grounding I feel is quite important. 00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:26.940 Is the About Last Night podcast, are you still 00:29:26.940 --> 00:29:30.299 doing new episodes of it? Not at the moment. 00:29:30.339 --> 00:29:33.700 I'm actually trying to think about taking that 00:29:33.700 --> 00:29:39.559 idea, I know that Fern, Fern Cotton? It's still 00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:41.680 on the platforms though, isn't it? Oh yes, yes, 00:29:41.799 --> 00:29:43.279 it's definitely still on the platform. I think 00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:46.940 Fern Cotton did a podcast or does one still call 00:29:46.940 --> 00:29:49.779 My Happy Place or something. And I think that 00:29:49.779 --> 00:29:53.339 was kind of where I was headed. So I think I'd 00:29:53.339 --> 00:29:57.660 like to think of a tangential idea. But I love 00:29:57.660 --> 00:30:00.440 podcasts. I love that we have so many outlets 00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.579 for creativity these days. We're very, we're 00:30:03.579 --> 00:30:07.890 very lucky. We are, we are. Well, podcast guest 00:30:07.890 --> 00:30:12.549 is something else we do, so whenever you reinvent 00:30:12.549 --> 00:30:14.650 it or whatever you do with it or restart it or 00:30:14.650 --> 00:30:16.930 whatever you do, we can have a chat about that. 00:30:17.450 --> 00:30:19.930 Oh, that's lovely. Because remember, we've got 00:30:19.930 --> 00:30:24.630 our own podcast platform. Yes, yes. Gosh, you 00:30:24.630 --> 00:30:27.710 guys must be very busy. There's never enough 00:30:27.710 --> 00:30:30.369 hours. There isn't. I've obviously got a proper 00:30:30.369 --> 00:30:33.349 job as well to pay the bills. Yes, of course. 00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:35.880 I think the podcast just about rakes enough money 00:30:35.880 --> 00:30:38.460 to buy a microphone every so often and little 00:30:38.460 --> 00:30:40.660 things, you know. That's the idea, though. At 00:30:40.660 --> 00:30:42.779 least it's covering the cost for bits and pieces, 00:30:42.920 --> 00:30:45.299 you know, that's the idea. Of course, of course. 00:30:46.019 --> 00:30:52.640 So what is next for you? Well, I released another 00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:56.200 single from my album yesterday, actually, and 00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:59.079 that's called Slow Suicide. And what we're going 00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:02.859 to do is release another single in August the 00:31:02.859 --> 00:31:05.160 whole album will be out at the end of September 00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:08.440 and I should be heading back to Nashville towards 00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:11.980 the end of the year because we've started writing 00:31:11.980 --> 00:31:14.559 for the next album and I think that's what's 00:31:14.559 --> 00:31:17.420 so lovely about Creative Flow once you're kind 00:31:17.420 --> 00:31:20.079 of in it it's kind of you're like you're on your 00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:25.680 way so I'm very focused on getting us another 00:31:25.680 --> 00:31:28.259 album, not the second album, but the second album, 00:31:28.299 --> 00:31:30.720 let's say in my Nashville adventures written. 00:31:31.380 --> 00:31:35.579 I also wrote a book manuscript in COVID and then 00:31:35.579 --> 00:31:40.099 I kind of went down the publishing route with 00:31:40.099 --> 00:31:42.880 it and then decided as further we went down the 00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:45.500 route that I wanted to add different elements 00:31:45.500 --> 00:31:48.400 into it that I hadn't done. So at the moment, 00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:50.920 I'm reworking that. It's funny when you say there 00:31:50.920 --> 00:31:54.519 aren't enough hours in the day. I totally understand 00:31:54.519 --> 00:31:57.299 what you mean. So at the moment, I'm pulling 00:31:57.299 --> 00:32:00.339 that apart and putting it back together again 00:32:00.339 --> 00:32:04.039 with a slightly different slant because I don't 00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:07.299 like sitting around doing nothing. I think you 00:32:07.299 --> 00:32:10.720 might have mentioned the title but do remind 00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:13.200 me, what is the title of the album that's coming 00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:15.900 out? Oh well actually we're not telling anyone 00:32:15.900 --> 00:32:18.559 yet. I thought I was guilty of not listening 00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:23.940 properly. No you're so lovely. No we're actually 00:32:23.940 --> 00:32:27.220 gonna wait till the end of August before we release 00:32:27.220 --> 00:32:30.880 that but I'll let you know for sure. Thank you. 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:35.220 You have, I believe, there's only been so many 00:32:35.220 --> 00:32:37.640 minutes and I know we've got to let you go in 00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:41.299 a minute. I've got a question to ask. I fear 00:32:41.299 --> 00:32:45.180 you may have undersold yourself a bit. Performed 00:32:45.180 --> 00:32:48.539 regularly at the Royal Albert Hall. Well, beyond 00:32:48.539 --> 00:32:51.400 the main stage, not the main stage, but yes. 00:32:56.400 --> 00:33:02.619 Upstairs at Raleigh Scots. Yes. That's a pretty 00:33:02.619 --> 00:33:04.440 good little gig, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, it was 00:33:04.440 --> 00:33:08.380 great. And I'm hoping to go back. And Boysdale's, 00:33:08.380 --> 00:33:11.019 I have to say, I love Boysdale's. It's so good. 00:33:11.339 --> 00:33:13.420 You do three sets. It's kind of like getting 00:33:13.420 --> 00:33:18.490 three lots of audience. They're so... They're 00:33:18.490 --> 00:33:22.029 just so enthusiastic and attentive. It's so much 00:33:22.029 --> 00:33:24.849 fun. And Leanne Carroll, who you've produced 00:33:24.849 --> 00:33:26.730 and curated stuff with, I know her personally. 00:33:26.869 --> 00:33:30.829 She lives in my hometown. Well, I also know Leanne. 00:33:31.130 --> 00:33:33.970 We share a producer. We haven't worked together, 00:33:34.049 --> 00:33:36.450 but we shared a producer, Jane St. Millen. Yeah, 00:33:36.710 --> 00:33:39.849 I know Leanne and she's wonderful. Wonderful. 00:33:40.049 --> 00:33:43.619 What a talent. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. 00:33:44.180 --> 00:33:46.539 And she still plays one night or so down here 00:33:46.539 --> 00:33:48.940 in Hastings. At Porter's? Yes, where she started. 00:33:49.059 --> 00:33:52.759 Yes, yeah. I've been there many a time. Just 00:33:52.759 --> 00:33:55.279 carries you away. Absolutely. So there you go. 00:33:55.319 --> 00:33:56.900 She's incredible. Absolutely incredible. Yeah, 00:33:56.900 --> 00:33:58.559 she really, really is. I absolutely know her 00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:00.240 personally. I'm a classmate as a friend, you 00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:02.000 know. Not just face -to -face. Lovely. Yeah, 00:34:02.339 --> 00:34:06.019 I've got it. Lovely. 35 years or more, I've probably 00:34:06.019 --> 00:34:08.800 been watching and listening to her. Things like 00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:12.840 that. Wow. Wow. Incredible. Okay, did you say 00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:16.480 what it said? Yes. What keeps you going? You've 00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:20.239 got so much energy, so much confidence. What's 00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:23.360 the secret? Oh, I don't know about confidence. 00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:26.800 That's interesting because I think I do have... 00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:29.199 I always feel like there's an orchestra in my 00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:34.500 head and the doubting part of me sometimes is 00:34:34.500 --> 00:34:36.699 dialed up a little bit louder than I would like 00:34:36.699 --> 00:34:41.300 and I have to dial it down. I think I suppose 00:34:41.300 --> 00:34:44.059 I alluded to it a little bit like we all are 00:34:44.059 --> 00:34:46.619 faced with challenges through life and there 00:34:46.619 --> 00:34:49.000 have been a number of things not wanting to sound 00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:51.599 over dramatic that have kind of brought me to 00:34:51.599 --> 00:34:55.179 my knees and kind of made me really look at myself 00:34:55.179 --> 00:34:57.539 and we always have choice points don't we in 00:34:57.539 --> 00:35:01.659 life and it's kind of like we none of us escape 00:35:01.659 --> 00:35:04.989 being broken in some way But it's kind of like 00:35:04.989 --> 00:35:07.909 what am I gonna do with this? So I was saying 00:35:07.909 --> 00:35:11.889 earlier to Nick that I am lucky because I have 00:35:11.889 --> 00:35:15.789 this Fire of joy inside me that's been there 00:35:15.789 --> 00:35:19.030 always my ex -husband always used to say to me 00:35:20.539 --> 00:35:23.440 I always say I can always find a silver lining. 00:35:23.500 --> 00:35:26.440 Sometimes it's really hard, but there is one 00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:28.900 if you look hard enough. And he used to get very 00:35:28.900 --> 00:35:32.500 irritated with me and say, no, there isn't. Sometimes 00:35:32.500 --> 00:35:36.039 everything is just awful. And I don't know how, 00:35:36.039 --> 00:35:39.039 but I refuse to believe that. I refuse to believe 00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:41.179 that. And I think there's always something wonderful 00:35:41.179 --> 00:35:43.579 if you look for it. And I think once you get 00:35:43.579 --> 00:35:49.000 into that way of feeling and thinking, it kind 00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:52.599 of propels you a little bit. But I promise you, 00:35:52.699 --> 00:35:54.679 it's so kind of you to say that I come across 00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:56.719 as confident because... No, I noticed it as soon 00:35:56.719 --> 00:36:00.280 as we started chatting. You're so kind. Well, 00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:02.920 I just think you're both very welcoming and lovely. 00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:07.019 And it's lovely to chat about music and creativity 00:36:07.019 --> 00:36:10.920 and what other people are doing as well. I love 00:36:10.920 --> 00:36:15.679 people and I love connecting with people. So 00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:18.019 I think I'm probably a bit like a yappy little 00:36:18.019 --> 00:36:20.559 puppy in that sense, which might get irritating. 00:36:24.500 --> 00:36:26.800 But confidence, I think, you know, confidence 00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:31.980 is a sliding scale. I love what I do. And it's 00:36:31.980 --> 00:36:35.619 taken a while, but I like who I am now. There 00:36:35.619 --> 00:36:38.679 were a good few years where I didn't always like 00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:41.519 who I was and I had to learn to love myself. 00:36:42.969 --> 00:36:45.730 And I think I'm not alone in that. Lots of people 00:36:45.730 --> 00:36:49.809 go through that journey. But, yeah, I think life 00:36:49.809 --> 00:36:53.510 is for living and making the most of. And, you 00:36:53.510 --> 00:36:55.349 know, I get to meet like -minded people like 00:36:55.349 --> 00:36:58.130 you guys and be surrounded by beautiful people. 00:36:58.610 --> 00:37:00.449 And, yeah, there's a lot of beauty in this world 00:37:00.449 --> 00:37:04.269 if we look for it. Thank you. You've got to be 00:37:04.269 --> 00:37:07.039 positive in life because... The other end of 00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:10.559 it, not looking at the silver lining, is negativity, 00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:13.460 definitely breeds negativity and you're a downward 00:37:13.460 --> 00:37:16.320 spiral. In any capacity, you need to have that 00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:19.039 hope and that positiveness. I assume we've got 00:37:19.039 --> 00:37:21.000 another interview like now, I guess, at half 00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:24.579 past ten. Soon, yes. Let's do the social media 00:37:24.579 --> 00:37:27.360 quickly, please. So yeah, I mean, we're all right. 00:37:27.380 --> 00:37:30.360 We talk all day, but you need your help. So yeah, 00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:32.800 Pari, let's do your social media websites, where 00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:34.960 people can find you, please. OK, great. Thank 00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:37.739 you so much. So I'm most active on Instagram, 00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:39.960 but my Instagram is linked to my Facebook. It's 00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:43.840 parireinharmony. And I have a website parire 00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:47.780 .com. Note to self, make sure it's up to date. 00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:50.679 But Instagram and Facebook really are the places 00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:53.920 to find me. me. And thank you so much for having 00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:56.199 me. It's been such a joy to chat to you guys. 00:37:56.659 --> 00:37:59.639 Let's do it again sometime. I'd love that. I'd 00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:02.260 love that. Thank you so much. 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