WEBVTT 00:00:00.839 --> 00:00:03.220 Nick and Sue. This edition is brought to you 00:00:03.220 --> 00:00:06.280 in association with the Steel Union for men's 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:09.259 gifts, presents and problem solving men's accessories. 00:00:09.740 --> 00:00:16.980 More from them in a bit. Chatterbox. When the 00:00:16.980 --> 00:00:27.940 stars talk, they talk to Nick and Sue. Welcome 00:00:27.940 --> 00:00:30.440 back to the Chatterbox Redux Podcast with Nick 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:33.320 and Sue and today our special guest is Gina Ross. 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:14.120 This is Nick and Sue, with Chatterbox giving 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:18.760 you all you need to know about musical entertainment. 00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:38.920 Oh yeah, Chatterbox! And now, Chatterbox, we're 00:01:38.920 --> 00:01:41.040 just lucky enough to welcome back Gina Ross. 00:01:41.060 --> 00:01:43.519 Gina, welcome back. How are you? Hello, Gina. 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:47.980 Hello. Hi, Nick and Suelle. Hi. My absolute pleasure 00:01:47.980 --> 00:01:51.280 to always be back with you two, honestly. It's 00:01:51.280 --> 00:01:56.180 going to be fun. It's been ages since we last 00:01:56.180 --> 00:02:01.200 spoke. What's been going on? Let's go back to 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:03.799 what's happened so far this year with releases. 00:02:03.819 --> 00:02:06.200 I mean, you did very, very well, of course, with 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:09.539 the hit and miss final. You've always been in 00:02:09.539 --> 00:02:10.919 the wings, what do you think? But you got it 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:13.840 this time. I know. It wasn't it? You know, we 00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:17.699 put forward sunglasses in the rain maybe two 00:02:17.699 --> 00:02:20.300 seasons ago, was it? Well, I can't remember one 00:02:20.300 --> 00:02:23.900 season. I can't remember. Anyway, and there we 00:02:23.900 --> 00:02:28.319 were. And yes, yeah, I think we came fourth. 00:02:28.469 --> 00:02:33.669 that year um and then of course um uh season 00:02:33.669 --> 00:02:36.370 was it season two or three i get confused myself 00:02:36.370 --> 00:02:40.729 four has just gone four has four yeah i think 00:02:40.729 --> 00:02:43.069 it was season two or three that i was in the 00:02:43.069 --> 00:02:47.770 last time right so um anyway there we there we 00:02:47.770 --> 00:02:50.569 are with fractured and i mean if we remember 00:02:50.569 --> 00:02:55.090 rightly it was the first um song in the series, 00:02:55.330 --> 00:02:58.349 wasn't it? Yes, the first song in the first programme 00:02:58.349 --> 00:03:01.330 of season four. Very first, when it won. And 00:03:01.330 --> 00:03:03.990 the one that came second was the second song 00:03:03.990 --> 00:03:07.590 to be played, which was Sam Ryder. Oh, wow! That 00:03:07.590 --> 00:03:09.449 must have been a hell of a good show, that one. 00:03:09.909 --> 00:03:11.930 Oh, yeah. They both stood it right to the end. 00:03:12.009 --> 00:03:13.930 It was amazing, wasn't it? Yeah. Very, very much 00:03:13.930 --> 00:03:17.750 so. And, you know, I mean... They are getting 00:03:17.750 --> 00:03:20.250 I must admit they are getting tougher and tougher, 00:03:20.830 --> 00:03:23.810 you know But but that's just how wonderful the 00:03:23.810 --> 00:03:27.250 show is and the momentum of the people that listen 00:03:27.250 --> 00:03:30.689 in and and not only that but the momentum of 00:03:30.689 --> 00:03:35.870 the votes that I get in now are incredible and 00:03:35.870 --> 00:03:40.590 so so very privileged and grateful for all those 00:03:40.590 --> 00:03:44.710 who did vote for for Fractured. I mean it was, 00:03:44.990 --> 00:03:50.889 I think it was an incredible powerful song and 00:03:50.889 --> 00:03:55.189 to say that it was recognised as such is quite 00:03:55.189 --> 00:03:58.310 an accolade, indeed it was, so thanks very much 00:03:58.310 --> 00:04:01.210 for that. My favourite lyrics was I'm not broken, 00:04:01.370 --> 00:04:07.460 I'm just fractured. Again, again, it all had 00:04:07.460 --> 00:04:11.419 to do with the situation that you both personally 00:04:11.419 --> 00:04:14.500 know about, about my daughter going through the 00:04:14.500 --> 00:04:17.620 most dreadful, dreadful breakup. I mean, people 00:04:17.620 --> 00:04:21.920 do go through dreadful breakups, but this, you 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:32.399 know, was bad. And so it was that plus a combination 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:36.319 of my husband who had fallen down some stairs 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:42.439 and fractured his femur and so ended up in hospital 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:47.180 and then care facilities for the next five months 00:04:47.180 --> 00:04:52.720 in respect of it taking that amount of time to 00:04:52.720 --> 00:04:56.680 heal. So here I was with thinking about the situation 00:04:56.680 --> 00:05:01.879 with my daughter and then with my husband having 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:06.800 this broken femur. And I went, okay, I know it 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:10.519 sounds like a really weird combination, but that's 00:05:10.519 --> 00:05:14.500 how my head works sometimes. That's how my head 00:05:14.500 --> 00:05:19.100 works. So there we were with, I'm not broken, 00:05:19.639 --> 00:05:25.399 I'm just fractured. Yeah. And then... love for 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:28.740 the same line every day I find a way to carry 00:05:28.740 --> 00:05:32.839 on because it was really tough for her but somehow 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:36.620 she found the strength as people do as people 00:05:36.620 --> 00:05:38.579 do when they're going through a really tough 00:05:38.579 --> 00:05:42.420 time they find the reason and the strength to 00:05:42.420 --> 00:05:47.279 carry on and so so yeah I was very very very 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:51.699 chuffed when that actually won the final of the 00:05:51.699 --> 00:05:55.980 hit or miss yeah and of course we've got this 00:05:55.980 --> 00:06:01.439 season's coming up and you know again all the 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:04.600 tough heats have been and gone and there's still 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:11.300 some ahead of us and you know it's an open contest 00:06:11.300 --> 00:06:16.360 because there is such wonderful quality of mainstream 00:06:16.360 --> 00:06:20.519 and mainstream independent artists that are involved. 00:06:21.420 --> 00:06:27.459 I think how it works so well is that alongside 00:06:27.459 --> 00:06:30.600 you playing the mainstream and then the independent 00:06:30.600 --> 00:06:34.379 mainstream, you've given a vehicle for all the 00:06:34.379 --> 00:06:38.170 independent mainstream. to be heard and to give 00:06:38.170 --> 00:06:41.829 them the exposure, which they necessarily wouldn't 00:06:41.829 --> 00:06:47.949 have if the show format was different, was different 00:06:47.949 --> 00:06:52.189 in some shape or form. And I've got to say, Nick 00:06:52.189 --> 00:06:55.990 and Suelle, when you introduced the panel, you 00:06:55.990 --> 00:06:59.310 know, so it was all sort of very Eurovision like. 00:07:00.529 --> 00:07:05.060 Yeah. It was wonderful. It was. it was just so 00:07:05.060 --> 00:07:09.600 fair it was it really really worked and um yeah 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:12.819 yeah so i mean i can only see it go from strength 00:07:12.819 --> 00:07:15.779 to strength yeah i think the important thing 00:07:15.779 --> 00:07:18.399 with how we have the mainstream artists against 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:21.100 the independent mainstream artists and of course 00:07:21.100 --> 00:07:23.339 some quite big acts that have had hits over the 00:07:23.339 --> 00:07:27.319 years are now producing their material independently 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:30.089 including last week's winner Schwuddy Woody they're 00:07:30.089 --> 00:07:32.730 not with Arista anymore they do it themselves 00:07:32.730 --> 00:07:36.910 right and to be honest with you it's uh it's 00:07:36.910 --> 00:07:39.550 not a talent show there's always a market perhaps 00:07:39.550 --> 00:07:42.370 for a talent show maybe even on R &I but that's 00:07:42.370 --> 00:07:46.689 not what it is it's we are you know we'd like 00:07:46.689 --> 00:07:48.870 to be fair and across the board now in the real 00:07:48.870 --> 00:07:53.970 world independent art independent uh commercial 00:07:53.970 --> 00:07:56.209 independent artists call it whatever we wanted 00:07:56.209 --> 00:07:59.850 a mainstream whatever we want to call it such 00:07:59.850 --> 00:08:02.970 as yourself, in the real world, you're going 00:08:02.970 --> 00:08:05.430 to be up against the Rolling Stones and Suzy 00:08:05.430 --> 00:08:09.230 Quatro on radio play. That's how it is. And I 00:08:09.230 --> 00:08:12.470 think it's a very realistic contest for that 00:08:12.470 --> 00:08:15.610 reason. There isn't anything quite like it. It's 00:08:15.610 --> 00:08:18.230 one thing or the other. This is... straight up 00:08:18.230 --> 00:08:19.730 the middle and I think that's what makes it so 00:08:19.730 --> 00:08:22.889 special and I think where we got the panel in 00:08:22.889 --> 00:08:25.490 it's made the voting more realistic in the outcome 00:08:25.490 --> 00:08:27.829 I think it's encouraged more people from the 00:08:27.829 --> 00:08:31.129 outside we're say to listen in where and have 00:08:31.129 --> 00:08:34.330 you noticed how the votes for Paul McCartney 00:08:34.330 --> 00:08:36.330 Suzy Quattro and the more famous people have 00:08:36.330 --> 00:08:39.700 gone up to match Not to beat them, the voting's 00:08:39.700 --> 00:08:42.820 very fair and across the board. Because we send 00:08:42.820 --> 00:08:46.820 out clips to 200 people who are regular listeners. 00:08:47.019 --> 00:08:48.480 Of course, they get a clip of everyone's songs, 00:08:48.620 --> 00:08:50.500 they're still in touch, what's going on. But 00:08:50.500 --> 00:08:52.600 of course, it's encouraging everybody to vote 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:55.399 for everybody. You know, hit, miss, hit, miss. 00:08:55.600 --> 00:08:59.940 And it's very balanced now. With respect to... 00:08:59.940 --> 00:09:04.000 with the show, the show itself, I mean, I've 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:07.629 known, I'm sure there was a heat... at one point 00:09:07.629 --> 00:09:14.210 where I was up against Barbara Streisand, Andre 00:09:14.210 --> 00:09:19.610 Grande, can't pronounce her name, and Maria Carey 00:09:19.610 --> 00:09:25.509 doing the song, One Voice, One Heart or something. 00:09:26.169 --> 00:09:31.740 And I just thought, Wow, this is amazing and 00:09:31.740 --> 00:09:34.500 when you actually do listen to the song you're 00:09:34.500 --> 00:09:39.840 entering and you go, okay, okay It's okay. It's 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:43.120 that's up. So but that's a great way of putting 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:48.600 it Nick that those people are played or you're 00:09:48.600 --> 00:09:52.399 played alongside those people on national radio 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:58.720 So, you know, it's like bless you know when we've 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:03.480 had the airplay and and on R &I and you know 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:06.919 um someone might play Carly Simon and then they'll 00:10:06.919 --> 00:10:11.139 go here's Gina Ross and and it's lovely it's 00:10:11.139 --> 00:10:15.840 beautiful it's wonderful to know and um you yourself 00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:20.179 so well have played some banging tunes and then 00:10:20.179 --> 00:10:25.039 slipped oh here's Gina Ross as well But it flows. 00:10:25.279 --> 00:10:30.539 We don't actually look upon... We look upon the 00:10:30.539 --> 00:10:34.559 artist as a whole, as a standard, especially 00:10:34.559 --> 00:10:37.960 for Chatterbox, very much for Chatterbox. But 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:40.320 when it comes to Su's Bangin' Chains or Hit or 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:42.940 Miss or any show that we're doing, your Gina 00:10:42.940 --> 00:10:45.139 Ross song flows with those other great artists. 00:10:45.220 --> 00:10:49.299 It's not out of place. It flows. Well, this is 00:10:49.299 --> 00:10:53.990 the wonderful accolade that I... commend to, 00:10:53.990 --> 00:10:57.129 you know, being involved with, like, Martin, 00:10:57.169 --> 00:11:00.850 Martin Sutton, and, you know, I mean, he's written 00:11:00.850 --> 00:11:04.470 for Mike and the Mechanics, Pixie Rock, Gary 00:11:04.470 --> 00:11:09.730 Barlow, and so, you know, in respect, when you're 00:11:09.730 --> 00:11:14.590 working with someone like Martin, that, you know, 00:11:14.789 --> 00:11:17.250 what he's going to produce is going to stand 00:11:17.250 --> 00:11:22.750 up against Yeah, yeah, without a doubt. So it's 00:11:22.750 --> 00:11:27.230 been a wonderful, wonderful by chance meeting 00:11:27.230 --> 00:11:30.789 with Martin, but something which I'm sure will 00:11:30.789 --> 00:11:33.950 carry on for an incredibly long, long, long time 00:11:33.950 --> 00:11:37.049 moving forward. Yeah. Oh, he's top of the game. 00:11:37.490 --> 00:11:40.809 I mean, I mean, I know that he wouldn't send 00:11:40.809 --> 00:11:46.370 anything out for release unless it wasn't. Perfect. 00:11:46.750 --> 00:11:52.450 That's right. And for the selectors in San Marino 00:11:52.450 --> 00:11:57.230 to actually know who Martin Sutton is, that's 00:11:57.230 --> 00:12:00.750 pretty good going really. Very, very, very. It 00:12:00.750 --> 00:12:03.230 really is wonderful. And when you mentioned that, 00:12:03.629 --> 00:12:20.019 I... I mean, I was so chuffed. Well, this show 00:12:20.019 --> 00:12:22.039 is proud to be brought to you in association 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:25.440 with the Distill Union. 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And he says, Well what 00:14:54.990 --> 00:14:56.850 I'm going to suggest to you Gene, I need you 00:14:56.850 --> 00:14:59.590 to think about it because every other time it 00:14:59.590 --> 00:15:03.269 was a question of us doing Zoom meetings and 00:15:03.269 --> 00:15:07.549 doing lots of lyrical writing and music writing 00:15:07.549 --> 00:15:10.769 and then you know months later I'd go down to 00:15:10.769 --> 00:15:13.549 the studio and record. He says how about you 00:15:13.549 --> 00:15:16.950 come down here for five days, five intense days, 00:15:17.309 --> 00:15:21.519 we write two songs, we produce two songs, you 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:25.000 record two songs and we release two songs. And 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:29.179 I thought, okay, absolutely, okay, why not indeed? 00:15:29.700 --> 00:15:33.960 And it was the most incredible experience and 00:15:33.960 --> 00:15:39.019 to work with such a man of his caliber in respect 00:15:39.019 --> 00:15:45.620 of the intensity, the commitment uh from from 00:15:45.620 --> 00:15:48.039 walking would not through even walking through 00:15:48.039 --> 00:15:51.740 the door from getting in the car to go into his 00:15:51.740 --> 00:15:57.360 studio you know um i always remember of the two 00:15:57.360 --> 00:16:02.200 songs we ended up doing um when i because i just 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:07.299 jumped in i got this on my mind So much it's 00:16:07.299 --> 00:16:09.519 it's been there ever since I was on the train 00:16:09.519 --> 00:16:13.100 and and all I can think of is the title has to 00:16:13.100 --> 00:16:17.620 be Find my way to you You know, it's a bit of 00:16:17.620 --> 00:16:21.240 a tricky one, too But but then when we got down 00:16:21.240 --> 00:16:25.080 to it, it was so amazing because what we were 00:16:25.080 --> 00:16:29.799 trying to establish is When you're in a relationship 00:16:29.799 --> 00:16:34.940 and that relationship breaks up What do you do 00:16:34.879 --> 00:16:37.600 What do you do? I mean, we're all very different 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:41.320 and we all have our own ways of deciding what 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:45.139 we're going to do next. So what we were trying 00:16:45.139 --> 00:16:49.879 to establish is do you rush head on into a relationship 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:52.820 without thought, without, and just go, well, 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:54.840 I've got to meet somebody else I've got to meet, 00:16:55.340 --> 00:17:00.000 or do you sit back and take the time to get better, 00:17:00.200 --> 00:17:05.210 to heal, and then go, well, it will be then, 00:17:05.690 --> 00:17:08.529 once I feel better, that I'll be able to find 00:17:08.529 --> 00:17:13.809 my way to you. And it was just so amazing that 00:17:13.809 --> 00:17:16.950 throughout my life and the relationships that 00:17:16.950 --> 00:17:22.349 have been and gone in respect of they've broken 00:17:22.349 --> 00:17:27.029 down and there's no way back, what do you do? 00:17:27.829 --> 00:17:30.509 And there has been that time, there has been 00:17:30.509 --> 00:17:33.450 that time when I've gone oh well just start dating 00:17:33.450 --> 00:17:37.410 again just you know do what I want to do and 00:17:37.410 --> 00:17:43.170 and then of course you then think well this isn't 00:17:43.170 --> 00:17:47.829 actually working for me this way so then that's 00:17:47.829 --> 00:17:51.089 when you sit back and you just allow yourself 00:17:51.089 --> 00:17:55.730 the time to really really heal before you move 00:17:55.730 --> 00:17:58.930 on and then meet someone and and it was amazing 00:17:58.930 --> 00:18:03.400 because even Martin what was saying about his 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:07.980 own personal journey and it just felt right and 00:18:07.980 --> 00:18:10.720 it was from and it was from that perspective 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:16.420 that we wrote Find My Way To You. Yeah. What 00:18:16.420 --> 00:18:20.099 have we got planned for the next year? Can we 00:18:20.099 --> 00:18:22.240 ask about Summer May? Is it going to come out 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:26.589 at some point? Yes. Yeah, yeah, I'm hoping to 00:18:26.589 --> 00:18:33.069 release Summer May, which was recorded last April, 00:18:33.170 --> 00:18:41.089 May, sometime like that. Hoping to release that 00:18:41.089 --> 00:18:44.930 this year. If not, it can always be the first 00:18:44.930 --> 00:18:49.950 release of 2027. Because I think come September, 00:18:50.480 --> 00:18:52.539 Hopefully, we're going to have a pretty, pretty 00:18:52.539 --> 00:18:57.500 busy time. Yeah. Yeah. And of course, the second 00:18:57.500 --> 00:19:01.779 song that I wrote with Martin has all to do with 00:19:01.779 --> 00:19:06.579 with that very, very busy time that, you know, 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:09.460 can we talk about it? I'm not too sure. We can 00:19:09.460 --> 00:19:11.099 make it. We just can't play the song. And I don't 00:19:11.099 --> 00:19:13.700 think we can any of the lyrics at all. Right. 00:19:13.960 --> 00:19:16.259 We can mention the song, yes, and we've mentioned 00:19:16.259 --> 00:19:20.160 the country, even. I'm happy with that. So you 00:19:20.160 --> 00:19:23.160 can say or I can say, I don't mind. OK, well, 00:19:23.299 --> 00:19:25.920 I will let you say as you've done all the very, 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:29.619 very hard work to get us to where we are. But 00:19:29.619 --> 00:19:33.759 in respect of the song, when Martin and I got 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:37.279 together for these two very intense songs that 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:41.319 we had over the period of five days, that were... 00:19:41.200 --> 00:19:45.460 written that were produced that were recorded 00:19:45.460 --> 00:19:50.539 within those five day period and the second one 00:19:50.539 --> 00:19:56.519 of the two is a song called Find the Place I 00:19:56.519 --> 00:20:02.259 Live and well it's even I don't really want to 00:20:02.259 --> 00:20:05.700 mention it because it's just so exciting if all 00:20:05.700 --> 00:20:09.430 that we hope to achieve is how we achieve it 00:20:09.430 --> 00:20:15.630 but um it it's uh definitely um a song typical 00:20:15.630 --> 00:20:19.730 of what you would expect from a contest like 00:20:19.730 --> 00:20:23.990 Eurovision so so you said the rest basically 00:20:23.990 --> 00:20:27.650 yes it's a fantastic project which technically 00:20:27.650 --> 00:20:29.589 has been talked about for a couple of years between 00:20:29.589 --> 00:20:32.069 us all because i've always wanted to be basically 00:20:32.490 --> 00:20:35.750 part of a Eurovision project as behind an artist 00:20:35.750 --> 00:20:38.609 and we nearly did this in the late 90s but unfortunately 00:20:38.609 --> 00:20:40.730 whatever year it was Jonathan King got arrested 00:20:40.730 --> 00:20:43.289 and got into a lot of trouble because he was 00:20:43.289 --> 00:20:45.450 in charge of Eurovision and it was perfect under 00:20:45.450 --> 00:20:47.769 him because he did the selection process and 00:20:47.769 --> 00:20:50.650 the last 12 songs for the BBC for us to vote 00:20:50.650 --> 00:20:52.890 at home it worked under him and we got so many 00:20:52.890 --> 00:20:55.190 seconds on the odd first under him but of course 00:20:55.190 --> 00:20:59.150 things changed and he's no longer welcome to 00:20:59.150 --> 00:21:03.819 be part of the selection process but To represent 00:21:03.819 --> 00:21:06.779 the UK is a close shot. It's impossible. And 00:21:06.779 --> 00:21:10.299 the BBC still have the rights to the Eurovision 00:21:10.299 --> 00:21:13.180 till the 2028 contest. And of course, it could 00:21:13.180 --> 00:21:15.319 get renewed even. That's the problem. It could 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:19.619 do. But fortunately, ITV also are members of 00:21:19.619 --> 00:21:22.200 the European Broadcasting Union, so they could 00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:25.779 take it on quite legally. And now it's ITV. I 00:21:25.779 --> 00:21:28.039 mean, I like the regional ITV channels. I preferred 00:21:28.039 --> 00:21:30.299 it. But when it comes to something like this, 00:21:30.759 --> 00:21:35.160 a national ITV channel makes it a reality to 00:21:35.160 --> 00:21:38.640 take it from the BBC. It makes it plausible rather 00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:42.180 than it's a southern and that's how I look rather 00:21:42.180 --> 00:21:45.579 than Meridian or HTV or Grenada or someone rather 00:21:45.579 --> 00:21:48.460 than just them getting the rights. A whole ITV 00:21:48.460 --> 00:21:52.480 one channel makes it a reality. I believe, definitely. 00:21:53.779 --> 00:21:56.900 And that little thing with STV who've taken over 00:21:56.900 --> 00:21:59.460 Grampian, they're affiliated, although they're 00:21:59.460 --> 00:22:02.660 their own company, but they too are a member 00:22:02.660 --> 00:22:06.000 of the European Broadcasting Union as well. Let's 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:08.599 make life quite simple. We have done all that. 00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:12.220 So yeah, it's simple if BBC lose it. Very simple. 00:22:13.220 --> 00:22:17.339 So it was finding a different country. Now, Gina, 00:22:17.539 --> 00:22:19.930 you and I in fact in Malta not only have you 00:22:19.930 --> 00:22:22.049 done your singing and some concerts and things 00:22:22.049 --> 00:22:24.869 and all right the Maltese are such friendly people 00:22:24.869 --> 00:22:27.130 they love the British and of course going back 00:22:27.130 --> 00:22:28.990 from the days when our troops were there during 00:22:28.990 --> 00:22:31.690 the second world war they went so much so to 00:22:31.690 --> 00:22:35.849 making uh English their joint native language 00:22:35.849 --> 00:22:38.029 everyone can speak it there and even so much 00:22:38.029 --> 00:22:40.109 so as changing to our side of the road for driving 00:22:40.109 --> 00:22:43.180 which they still do right So when it came to 00:22:43.180 --> 00:22:45.779 Eurovision they had selected British people, 00:22:45.980 --> 00:22:47.380 English people, British people, call it what 00:22:47.380 --> 00:22:50.200 you like, and they had selected them in the past 00:22:50.200 --> 00:22:52.480 but the rules have changed slightly. You now 00:22:52.480 --> 00:22:55.779 have to have somebody in the backing backing 00:22:55.779 --> 00:23:00.380 you that is born in Malta. This song we have, 00:23:00.480 --> 00:23:03.119 We Can't Change, it's perfect. You've got the 00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:07.339 Martin Sutton, can we mention Kat Amy singing? 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:10.660 Yes, of course, please. Yourself and myself. 00:23:10.660 --> 00:23:14.589 To me, it's a team that's going to work it's 00:23:14.589 --> 00:23:15.910 got everything there everyone's doing their own 00:23:15.910 --> 00:23:18.109 bit it's perfect and we all know each other so 00:23:18.109 --> 00:23:19.670 there's not actually a problem if i need to speak 00:23:19.670 --> 00:23:22.309 to martin about something about the staging and 00:23:22.309 --> 00:23:25.410 running you know it's there isn't it it's just 00:23:25.410 --> 00:23:30.109 there absolutely um so we've found san marino 00:23:30.109 --> 00:23:34.450 have no restrictions at all they welcome uh they 00:23:34.450 --> 00:23:37.809 welcome um entries from other european countries 00:23:38.379 --> 00:23:42.420 Another great thing about San Marino is they're 00:23:42.420 --> 00:23:48.319 clearly not ageist in any way to the extent that 00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:51.160 Boy George is older than all of us and he got 00:23:51.160 --> 00:23:53.579 selected to do his last 20 seconds with whatever 00:23:53.579 --> 00:23:55.880 the girl was called last year. And they don't 00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:57.319 always go for famous people either but they're 00:23:57.319 --> 00:23:59.880 quite happy to select somebody in their 50s or 00:23:59.880 --> 00:24:02.400 their 60s and just put, I just want somebody 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:04.740 to be good. They not only want a representation 00:24:04.740 --> 00:24:07.890 for San Marino, they want to win it. you know 00:24:07.890 --> 00:24:09.430 it's the world stage they're not going to win 00:24:09.430 --> 00:24:11.210 the world cup they're not going to qualify for 00:24:11.210 --> 00:24:12.250 the world cup there's not much they're going 00:24:12.250 --> 00:24:15.509 to do but they can win a contest right and bring 00:24:15.509 --> 00:24:17.630 it back to san marino for the next year something 00:24:17.630 --> 00:24:19.930 like that and of course the other thing is for 00:24:19.930 --> 00:24:22.589 such a small country i mean it doesn't make anything 00:24:22.589 --> 00:24:24.869 but it could really help its tourism couldn't 00:24:24.869 --> 00:24:28.069 it you know it's worth it you know all around 00:24:28.069 --> 00:24:31.230 so we are going for san marino but we can't we 00:24:31.230 --> 00:24:33.309 can't let anybody hear a song or hear any of 00:24:33.309 --> 00:24:36.109 the words until september the first at the earliest 00:24:37.430 --> 00:24:39.470 Excellent, yeah. That is the number one date 00:24:39.470 --> 00:24:43.049 across Eurovision territory, but it is the best, 00:24:43.210 --> 00:24:45.150 there was stuff there, everything is in this 00:24:45.150 --> 00:24:47.829 song, and Gina, you know as well as I do, if 00:24:47.829 --> 00:24:49.349 there was the slightest thing wrong with it, 00:24:49.349 --> 00:24:53.869 I'd say. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Right 00:24:53.869 --> 00:24:57.990 or wrong, I would say. I'm very excited about 00:24:57.990 --> 00:25:01.329 some of the staging concepts that you mentioned, 00:25:01.670 --> 00:25:06.470 and it feels like a complete complete package. 00:25:07.089 --> 00:25:13.829 So let's trust ourselves and the universe and 00:25:13.829 --> 00:25:18.450 San Marino that that all happens, which will 00:25:18.450 --> 00:25:22.549 be incredibly exciting. Incredibly. Yeah. By 00:25:22.549 --> 00:25:24.369 the time we've finished, everybody's going to 00:25:24.369 --> 00:25:27.769 know where San Marino is. Great. Not just within 00:25:27.769 --> 00:25:29.410 Italy, somebody's going to know exactly where 00:25:29.410 --> 00:25:31.349 it is in that top north -hand corner. They're 00:25:31.349 --> 00:25:34.549 going to know. Excellent, absolutely. Put it 00:25:34.549 --> 00:25:40.230 on the map, yes. Yeah, very much so. It takes 00:25:40.230 --> 00:25:48.170 two to tangle And two to present a radio show 00:25:48.170 --> 00:25:59.460 So here's Nick and Sue Your musical duo We're 00:25:59.460 --> 00:26:01.339 taking a quick break to talk about the things 00:26:01.339 --> 00:26:03.980 we carry with us every single day and we've all 00:26:03.980 --> 00:26:06.660 been there fumbling with a bulky wallet or dealing 00:26:06.660 --> 00:26:08.920 with jumbled mess of keys that sounds like a 00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:11.460 tambourine in your pocket. Well this show is 00:26:11.460 --> 00:26:13.480 proud to be brought to you in association with 00:26:13.480 --> 00:26:16.960 the Distill Union. 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Head over to distillunion .com 00:28:03.049 --> 00:28:05.609 or simply scroll down to the link below in the 00:28:05.609 --> 00:28:10.509 show notes and just add c -b -u -k -r -d -u -x 00:28:10.509 --> 00:28:12.910 This is Nick and Sue with Chatterbox giving you 00:28:12.910 --> 00:28:15.369 all you need to know about musical entertainment 00:28:15.369 --> 00:28:22.509 Chatterbox Chatterbox Chatterbox Chatterbox Chatterbox 00:28:22.509 --> 00:28:24.769 Chatterbox Chatterbox Just looking at some of 00:28:24.769 --> 00:28:28.109 the fantastic songs you've done of course Sunglasses 00:28:28.109 --> 00:28:32.750 in the Rain, an amazing song A Woman Who Knows 00:28:33.919 --> 00:28:36.059 Fractured we discussed already. We had one called 00:28:36.059 --> 00:28:39.319 Go Easy, haven't we? That was the first one. 00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:41.839 Yeah. Yeah, that was the first one. Make you 00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:43.279 feel your love, that was a great one. Make you 00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:46.039 feel my love, yes. Yes, we've had some real classics. 00:28:46.839 --> 00:28:48.980 Now, would you say, would you say looking back 00:28:48.980 --> 00:28:50.819 at these songs, because we've obviously discussed 00:28:50.819 --> 00:28:53.160 them in detail from the time we first met, which 00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:57.339 was... No, Find My Way To You, wasn't it? As 00:28:57.339 --> 00:29:02.259 you just said, yeah. Is it... story more or less 00:29:02.259 --> 00:29:04.839 of your life as your life's progressing. I mean, 00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:08.839 can we expect the next stage that you go to, 00:29:09.019 --> 00:29:11.859 Eurovision aside perhaps, or maybe not, can we 00:29:11.859 --> 00:29:15.200 say that's all different stages of your life 00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.839 experiences? Very, very much so. And you've just 00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:23.710 sort of really, really just said exactly what, 00:29:23.829 --> 00:29:29.470 when I write, what I experience and what is happening 00:29:29.470 --> 00:29:33.130 to my life right now because it is a reflection. 00:29:33.390 --> 00:29:37.569 It's a reflection of what I've been through throughout 00:29:37.569 --> 00:29:42.109 my career, which has been so vast and so varied 00:29:42.109 --> 00:29:46.890 and so incredibly wonderful with all the wonderful, 00:29:46.890 --> 00:29:51.039 wonderful stars. that I have worked with and 00:29:51.039 --> 00:29:56.940 met, and it has just been an incredible journey, 00:29:57.779 --> 00:30:00.900 and there's no signs of it stopping any time 00:30:00.900 --> 00:30:04.079 soon. But it was so funny, you should actually 00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:07.839 say that, because I was speaking with my producer 00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:11.799 that lives near me, and I was saying to him, 00:30:11.980 --> 00:30:15.460 I says, I would love to do some really, really 00:30:15.460 --> 00:30:19.609 powerful Cover versions just to keep them in 00:30:19.609 --> 00:30:23.170 the can just to have them there Just so I know 00:30:23.170 --> 00:30:26.529 I want to release this one now And I'm going 00:30:26.529 --> 00:30:30.470 to tell you something one of those songs. I don't 00:30:30.470 --> 00:30:34.329 know when I'll release it, but It's the most 00:30:34.329 --> 00:30:36.690 gorgeous song and I know you're all gonna nod 00:30:36.690 --> 00:30:40.349 your head But it's a song called if I never sing 00:30:40.349 --> 00:30:46.430 another song And we've recorded it, we're comping 00:30:46.430 --> 00:30:52.250 it at the moment, and it's, that is my life. 00:30:52.710 --> 00:30:55.990 Honestly, that, you know, and I guess the other 00:30:55.990 --> 00:31:00.210 one that I will possibly record at some point 00:31:00.210 --> 00:31:03.950 in the future is Born to Sing Forever, which 00:31:03.950 --> 00:31:08.880 is on all my... instagram and you know because 00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:11.559 you know that you know since i was a child i've 00:31:11.559 --> 00:31:15.460 never known anything else so um yeah so those 00:31:15.460 --> 00:31:19.839 are two of the songs that um i would uh definitely 00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:23.720 love to have they're ready to go whenever i feel 00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:28.579 whenever i feel the timing is right and uh you 00:31:28.579 --> 00:31:32.440 know because when i was in in uh in concert and 00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:35.339 in doing the theaters and doing it was all these 00:31:35.339 --> 00:31:39.700 big powerhouse of houses of songs that I used 00:31:39.700 --> 00:31:44.400 to sing so I thought gosh, you know just to just 00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:48.319 to have them there would Yeah, I think I'd be 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:51.680 very pleased if if that if they were recognized 00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:54.839 and people said gosh Oh and especially for those 00:31:54.839 --> 00:31:58.200 who have never ever heard them, you know go Wow. 00:31:58.339 --> 00:32:02.319 Well, what a good song. So Did we mention Wandering 00:32:02.319 --> 00:32:04.599 Girl amongst that lot? Yes you did. Because there's 00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:06.759 so many great songs that it's becoming a list 00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:09.660 now Gina. That's right. But you mentioned that 00:32:09.660 --> 00:32:11.400 about all the great people you've worked with 00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:14.539 and what a great life you've had. Now we look 00:32:14.539 --> 00:32:18.240 upon that, I mean I had a big bit of a radio 00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:20.420 career before I ever met Sue going in the 80s 00:32:20.420 --> 00:32:24.160 and into the 90s. doubled up as a club DJ as 00:32:24.160 --> 00:32:26.880 well. But I mean, we had had a phase then of 00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:28.359 interviewing some really great people. Now, if 00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:30.279 we look back, I think we would say we've had 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:33.859 an amazing time meeting people like you. But, 00:32:33.859 --> 00:32:36.480 you know, you're right up there with the greats. 00:32:37.019 --> 00:32:38.619 But look at some of those A -listers we've interviewed. 00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:42.599 I mean, incredible hobby to have. Yeah, absolutely. 00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:44.819 So that's the incredible thing. Their promoters 00:32:44.819 --> 00:32:48.279 come twice. You think, wow. OK, that's right. 00:32:48.789 --> 00:32:52.569 We look back the same way. I don't know, it's 00:32:52.569 --> 00:32:55.250 surreal in a way, but we do it in such a way 00:32:55.250 --> 00:32:57.349 that we don't want to make them feel like gods 00:32:57.349 --> 00:32:58.990 or anything. We just want to chat like we do, 00:32:58.990 --> 00:33:01.609 like friends. And I think that's why they like 00:33:01.609 --> 00:33:05.009 it so much. Very, very much so. Very much so. 00:33:05.150 --> 00:33:08.450 And I totally agree with you with all the big 00:33:08.450 --> 00:33:11.609 stars like Bob Monkhouse, like Tom O 'Connor, 00:33:11.910 --> 00:33:19.230 Billy Connolly, Chubby Brown, Lulu. And Sheila 00:33:19.230 --> 00:33:22.049 Ferguson from the Three Degrees. Yeah, I know 00:33:22.049 --> 00:33:25.990 you interviewed her. And I mean, the list goes 00:33:25.990 --> 00:33:30.430 on. Oh, David Essex, Sacha DiBelle. Oh, wonderful. 00:33:30.769 --> 00:33:35.309 Oh, yes. Wonderful. Absolutely. Yeah. So, you 00:33:35.309 --> 00:33:39.410 know, all these amazing, amazing people. And 00:33:39.410 --> 00:33:43.490 I'm just so grateful and so thankful I've had 00:33:43.490 --> 00:33:46.849 that opportunity. Truly, yeah. we have to and 00:33:46.849 --> 00:33:49.029 you have to whenever we decide not that we're 00:33:49.029 --> 00:33:51.529 ever going to retire of course we can be carried 00:33:51.529 --> 00:33:53.109 out in our boxes long before we actually say 00:33:53.109 --> 00:33:54.470 right that's it we're giving up now because you 00:33:54.470 --> 00:33:58.029 don't do it do you no but i think we you yourself 00:33:58.029 --> 00:34:00.369 and ourselves should actually write a book about 00:34:00.369 --> 00:34:04.089 the great people we've met and worked with positive 00:34:04.089 --> 00:34:06.750 you know there's very few bad ones isn't it but 00:34:06.750 --> 00:34:08.969 i feel like that one they're such great people 00:34:08.969 --> 00:34:12.289 you would about the people you've worked with 00:34:12.289 --> 00:34:14.530 there's tony christy as well there's so many 00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:19.599 Tina Turner. And Tina Turner and Percy Sledge. 00:34:21.260 --> 00:34:26.280 Absolutely. So that's a project. If you ever 00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:27.900 have a voice problem again, that's the time to 00:34:27.900 --> 00:34:30.679 start writing it. Indeed. And then put it away 00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:32.760 when you can sing. That's it. That's what, yeah, 00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:35.539 yeah. Gene, a very important question. Do you 00:34:35.539 --> 00:34:37.559 have to protect your voice? Do you have to be 00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:39.639 careful because getting these high notes, do 00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:42.079 you have to be careful with your voice? Well, 00:34:43.550 --> 00:34:46.130 Because obviously we're in this heat wave, aren't 00:34:46.130 --> 00:34:50.030 we? And of course, obviously in studio conditions, 00:34:50.570 --> 00:34:56.329 it's quite difficult to record in a studio at 00:34:56.329 --> 00:35:00.949 the moment with the heat. But what I definitely, 00:35:00.949 --> 00:35:04.130 definitely have to be very careful of is air 00:35:04.130 --> 00:35:07.690 conditioning. Yeah, because it just like dries 00:35:07.690 --> 00:35:10.940 your vocals out. without a doubt. It affects 00:35:10.940 --> 00:35:13.480 me and I'm not a singer. It affects me with my 00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:16.719 breathing problem. Right, yes, so you know that's 00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:19.760 definitely a no -no with the air conditioning. 00:35:20.579 --> 00:35:24.219 When I had to take Ian to hospital last week 00:35:24.219 --> 00:35:29.099 and we walked out of like I don't know maybe 00:35:29.099 --> 00:35:33.159 80, 90 degrees into like freezing air conditioning 00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:36.159 and I went Ian I'm dropping you off here and 00:35:36.159 --> 00:35:39.719 I'm going back outside because unfortunately 00:35:39.719 --> 00:35:42.679 I had a dreadful episode with air conditioning 00:35:42.679 --> 00:35:45.920 and the heat and I actually ended up in A &E 00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:49.699 and they They thought, well, I was really poorly, 00:35:49.699 --> 00:35:52.900 I couldn't breathe. And what it was, it was a 00:35:52.900 --> 00:35:55.500 condition, I can't remember the medical term, 00:35:55.900 --> 00:36:00.199 but it's a condition where the lungs get inflamed 00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:03.760 because you've been in a warm place and then 00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:06.980 you go directly into a cold and the lungs go 00:36:06.980 --> 00:36:10.659 into spasm. Gina, social media time, websites 00:36:10.659 --> 00:36:13.239 and anything else you've got please. Okay, here 00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:17.699 we go. We've got Gina Ross www. Gina Ross dot 00:36:17.699 --> 00:36:22.260 co dot uk that's my website Instagram is Gina 00:36:22.260 --> 00:36:30.219 Ross dot 2024 Facebook is Gina Ross and um uh 00:36:30.219 --> 00:36:36.420 and LinkedIn is Gina hyphen Ross at LinkedIn 00:36:36.420 --> 00:36:41.219 so that's the three um yeah yeah Perfect. Gina, 00:36:41.340 --> 00:36:44.300 it's been great to have a catch up with you. 00:36:44.440 --> 00:36:46.079 Can't wait. We always say this because you're 00:36:46.079 --> 00:36:47.639 a regular. We're looking forward to the next 00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:50.159 time already, Gina. And I think we've got to 00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:52.460 make that song the last one in this season. See 00:36:52.460 --> 00:36:56.760 how that works out. Wonderful. And this should 00:36:56.760 --> 00:36:59.900 go out next week, one after tomorrow. So, yeah. 00:37:00.019 --> 00:37:02.500 Gina, thanks so much for coming back on Chatterbox. 00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:06.219 Thank you. Bless you. Love you dearly. Thank 00:37:06.219 --> 00:37:08.960 you so much for having me. God bless. Bye bye. 00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:33.110 Bye. Bye. You've been listening to the Chatterbox 00:37:33.110 --> 00:37:36.449 Redux podcast with Sue and Nick and today our 00:37:36.449 --> 00:37:38.969 special guest was Gina Ross. 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