WEBVTT 00:00:00.840 --> 00:00:03.399 Nick and Sue. This edition of the Chatterbox 00:00:03.399 --> 00:00:05.820 Redux podcast is brought to you in association 00:00:05.820 --> 00:00:08.859 with the Old Glory Iconic Music and Sports Superstore. 00:00:09.140 --> 00:00:16.260 More from them in a bit. Chatterbox. When the 00:00:16.260 --> 00:00:27.210 stars talk, they talk to Nick and Sue. Welcome 00:00:27.210 --> 00:00:29.730 back to the Chatterbox Redux podcast with Nick 00:00:29.730 --> 00:00:32.609 and Sue and today our special guest is Gina Ross. 00:01:09.329 --> 00:01:13.810 This is Nick and Sue with Chatterbox giving you 00:01:13.810 --> 00:01:18.069 all you need to know about musical entertainment. 00:01:19.709 --> 00:01:25.250 Oh yeah! Chatterbox, the best interviews with 00:01:25.250 --> 00:01:37.400 Nick and Sue. Chatterbox, the best news And now, 00:01:37.540 --> 00:01:39.239 Chatterbox, we're just lucky enough to welcome 00:01:39.239 --> 00:01:42.140 back Gina Ross. Gina, welcome back. How are you? 00:01:42.299 --> 00:01:46.519 Hello, Gina. Hello, hi, Nick and Sue, hi. My 00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:48.819 absolute pleasure to always be back with you 00:01:48.819 --> 00:01:54.859 two, honestly. It's going to be fun. It's ages 00:01:54.859 --> 00:02:00.000 since we last spoke. What's been going on? Let's 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:02.640 go back to what's happened so far this year with 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:04.500 releases. I mean, you did very, very well, of 00:02:04.500 --> 00:02:08.520 course, with the hit and miss final. You've always 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:09.919 been in the wings, what do you think? But you 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:12.719 got it this time. I know. It wasn't it? You know, 00:02:12.800 --> 00:02:16.979 we put forward sunglasses in the rain maybe two 00:02:16.979 --> 00:02:19.580 seasons ago, was it? Well, I can't remember one 00:02:19.580 --> 00:02:23.180 season. I can't remember. Anyway, and there we 00:02:23.180 --> 00:02:27.599 were. And yes, yeah, I think we came fourth. 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:32.939 that year um and then of course um uh season 00:02:32.939 --> 00:02:35.699 was it season two or three i get confused myself 00:02:35.699 --> 00:02:40.599 four has just gone four yeah i think it was season 00:02:40.599 --> 00:02:43.060 two or three that i was in the last time right 00:02:43.060 --> 00:02:48.159 so um anyway there we there we are with fractured 00:02:48.159 --> 00:02:50.979 and i mean if we remember rightly it was the 00:02:50.979 --> 00:02:55.159 first um song in the series, wasn't it? Yes, 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:58.259 the first song in the first programme of season 00:02:58.259 --> 00:03:01.000 four. Very first, when it won. And the one that 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:03.819 came second was the second song to be played, 00:03:04.159 --> 00:03:07.259 which was Sam Ryder. Oh, wow! That must have 00:03:07.259 --> 00:03:10.180 been a hell of a good show, that one. They both 00:03:10.180 --> 00:03:11.960 stood it right to the end. It was amazing, wasn't 00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:14.919 it? Yeah. Very, very much so. And, you know, 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:18.000 I mean, they are getting, I must admit, they 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:20.759 are getting tougher and tougher, you know, but 00:03:20.759 --> 00:03:24.560 that's just how wonderful the show is. And the 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:28.219 momentum of the people that listen in and not 00:03:28.219 --> 00:03:30.900 only that, but the momentum of the votes that 00:03:30.900 --> 00:03:37.780 I get in now. Incredible, and so very privileged 00:03:37.780 --> 00:03:42.479 and grateful for all those who did vote for Fractured. 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:47.960 I mean, I think it was an incredible, powerful 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:53.419 song. And to say that it was recognised as such 00:03:53.419 --> 00:03:56.979 is quite an accolade, indeed it was. So thanks 00:03:56.979 --> 00:03:59.460 very much for that, yeah. My favourite lyrics 00:03:59.460 --> 00:04:03.030 was, I'm not broken, I'm just fractured. Yeah. 00:04:03.389 --> 00:04:08.569 Well, again, again, it all had to do with the 00:04:08.569 --> 00:04:11.430 situation that you both personally know about, 00:04:11.569 --> 00:04:14.909 about my daughter going through the most dreadful, 00:04:14.909 --> 00:04:17.990 dreadful breakup. I mean, people do go through 00:04:17.990 --> 00:04:22.930 dreadful breakups, but this, you know, was bad. 00:04:23.850 --> 00:04:32.240 And, and so it was that plus a combination of 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:36.139 my husband who had fallen down some stairs and 00:04:36.139 --> 00:04:41.740 fractured his femur and so ended up in hospital 00:04:41.740 --> 00:04:46.459 and then care facilities for the next five months 00:04:46.459 --> 00:04:52.000 in respect of it taking that amount of time to 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:55.959 heal. So here I was with thinking about the situation 00:04:55.959 --> 00:05:01.180 with my daughter and then with my husband having 00:05:01.180 --> 00:05:06.100 this broken femur. And I went, okay, I know it 00:05:06.100 --> 00:05:09.819 sounds like a really weird combination, but that's 00:05:09.819 --> 00:05:13.759 how my head works sometimes. That's how my head 00:05:13.759 --> 00:05:18.420 works. So there we were with, I'm not broken, 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:24.779 I'm just fractured. Yeah. And then... love for 00:05:24.779 --> 00:05:28.019 the same line every day I find a way to carry 00:05:28.019 --> 00:05:32.139 on because it was really tough for her but somehow 00:05:32.139 --> 00:05:35.899 she found the strength as people do as people 00:05:35.899 --> 00:05:37.860 do when they're going through a really tough 00:05:37.860 --> 00:05:41.720 time they find the reason and the strength to 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:46.560 carry on and so so yeah I was very very very 00:05:46.560 --> 00:05:50.980 chuffed when that actually won the final of the 00:05:50.980 --> 00:05:55.279 hit or miss yeah and of course we've got this 00:05:55.279 --> 00:06:00.720 season's coming up and you know again all the 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:03.899 tough heats have been and gone and there's still 00:06:03.899 --> 00:06:09.560 some ahead of us and you know it's it's it's 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:12.920 an open contest because there is such wonderful 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:17.240 quality of mainstream and mainstream independent 00:06:17.240 --> 00:06:23.600 artists that are involved. I think how it works 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:28.379 so well is that alongside you playing the mainstream 00:06:28.379 --> 00:06:31.759 and then the independent mainstream, you've given 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:35.300 a vehicle for all the independent mainstream. 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:39.379 to be heard and to give them the exposure, which 00:06:39.379 --> 00:06:45.300 they necessarily wouldn't have if the show format 00:06:45.300 --> 00:06:49.040 was different, was different in some shape or 00:06:49.040 --> 00:06:52.540 form. And I've got to say, Nick and Suelle, when 00:06:52.540 --> 00:06:56.279 you introduced the panel, you know, so it was 00:06:56.279 --> 00:07:01.399 all sort of very Eurovision like. Yeah, it was 00:07:01.399 --> 00:07:05.329 wonderful. It was. it was just so fair it was 00:07:05.329 --> 00:07:10.149 it really really worked and um yeah yeah so i 00:07:10.149 --> 00:07:13.170 mean i can only see it go from strength to strength 00:07:13.170 --> 00:07:16.029 yeah i think the important thing with how we 00:07:16.029 --> 00:07:18.389 have the mainstream artists against the independent 00:07:18.389 --> 00:07:21.189 mainstream artists and of course some quite big 00:07:21.189 --> 00:07:24.370 acts that have had hits over the years are now 00:07:24.370 --> 00:07:27.389 producing their material independently including 00:07:27.389 --> 00:07:29.500 last week's winner Schwuddy Woody they're not 00:07:29.500 --> 00:07:31.959 with the register anymore they do it themselves 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:36.199 right and to be honest with you it's uh it's 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:38.839 not a talent show there's always a market perhaps 00:07:38.839 --> 00:07:41.660 for a talent show maybe even on rni but that's 00:07:41.660 --> 00:07:45.980 not what it is it's we are you know we'd like 00:07:45.980 --> 00:07:48.160 to be fair and across the board now in the real 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:53.259 world independent art independent uh commercial 00:07:53.259 --> 00:07:55.500 independent artists call it whatever we wanted 00:07:55.500 --> 00:07:59.129 a mainstream whatever we want to call it such 00:07:59.129 --> 00:08:02.250 as yourself, in the real world, you're going 00:08:02.250 --> 00:08:04.709 to be up against the Rolling Stones and Suzy 00:08:04.709 --> 00:08:08.509 Quatro on radio play. That's how it is. And I 00:08:08.509 --> 00:08:11.769 think it's a very realistic contest for that 00:08:11.769 --> 00:08:14.889 reason. There isn't anything quite like it. It's 00:08:14.889 --> 00:08:17.670 one thing or the other. This is straight up the 00:08:17.670 --> 00:08:19.370 middle and I think that's what makes it so special. 00:08:19.730 --> 00:08:22.459 And I think... Where we got the panel in, it's 00:08:22.459 --> 00:08:25.259 made voting more realistic in the outcome. I 00:08:25.259 --> 00:08:27.519 think it's encouraged more people from the outside, 00:08:27.639 --> 00:08:30.879 we'd say, to listen in. And have you noticed 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:34.500 how the votes for Paul McCartney, Susie Quattro 00:08:34.500 --> 00:08:36.360 and the more famous people have gone up to match? 00:08:36.860 --> 00:08:39.639 Not to beat them, the voting's very fair and 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:43.980 across the board. Because we send out clips to 00:08:43.980 --> 00:08:46.360 200 people who are regular listeners. Of course, 00:08:46.419 --> 00:08:48.039 they get a clip of everyone's songs, they're 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:50.100 still in touch, what's going on. But of course, 00:08:50.320 --> 00:08:52.940 it's encouraging everybody to vote for everybody. 00:08:53.379 --> 00:08:55.259 You know, hit, miss, hit, miss. And it's very 00:08:55.259 --> 00:09:01.240 balanced now. With respect to... with the show, 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:04.120 the show itself, I mean, I've known, I'm sure 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:07.850 there was a heat... at one point where I was 00:09:07.850 --> 00:09:16.450 up against Barbara Streisand, Andre Grande, can't 00:09:16.450 --> 00:09:20.909 pronounce her name, and Maria Curry doing the 00:09:20.909 --> 00:09:25.509 song, One Voice, One Heart or something. And 00:09:25.509 --> 00:09:31.259 I just thought, Wow, this is amazing and when 00:09:31.259 --> 00:09:34.019 you actually do listen to the song you're entering 00:09:34.019 --> 00:09:40.139 and you go, okay, okay It's okay stats up. So 00:09:40.139 --> 00:09:45.159 but that's a great way of putting it Nick that 00:09:45.159 --> 00:09:49.100 those people are played or you're played alongside 00:09:49.100 --> 00:09:53.320 those people on national radio So, you know, 00:09:53.500 --> 00:09:59.100 it's like bless you know when we've had the airplay 00:09:59.100 --> 00:10:04.320 and um and on R &I and you know um someone might 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:07.220 play Carly Simon and then they'll go here's Gina 00:10:07.220 --> 00:10:11.419 Ross and and it's lovely it's beautiful it's 00:10:11.419 --> 00:10:15.679 wonderful to know and um you yourself so well 00:10:15.679 --> 00:10:19.799 have played some banging tunes and then slipped 00:10:19.799 --> 00:10:26.149 oh here's Gina Ross as well We don't actually 00:10:26.149 --> 00:10:31.190 look upon... We look upon the artist as a whole, 00:10:31.950 --> 00:10:35.429 as a standard, especially for Chatterbox, very 00:10:35.429 --> 00:10:38.389 much for Chatterbox. But when it comes to Su's 00:10:38.389 --> 00:10:40.350 Bangin' Chains or Hit or Miss or any show that 00:10:40.350 --> 00:10:43.730 we're doing, your Gina Ross song flows with those 00:10:43.730 --> 00:10:45.889 other great artists. It's not out of place. It 00:10:45.889 --> 00:10:51.129 flows. Well, this is the wonderful accolade that 00:10:51.129 --> 00:10:54.730 I... commend to, you know, being involved with, 00:10:54.730 --> 00:10:58.769 like, Martin, Martin Sutton, and, you know, I 00:10:58.769 --> 00:11:01.649 mean, he's written for Mike and the Mechanics, 00:11:01.929 --> 00:11:07.490 Pixie Rock, Gary Barlow, and so you know, in 00:11:07.490 --> 00:11:11.409 respect, when you're working with someone like 00:11:11.409 --> 00:11:15.129 Martin, that, you know, what he's going to produce 00:11:15.129 --> 00:11:19.970 is going to stand up against Yeah, yeah, without 00:11:19.970 --> 00:11:24.610 a doubt. So it's been a wonderful, wonderful 00:11:24.610 --> 00:11:28.750 by chance meeting with Martin, but something 00:11:28.750 --> 00:11:31.970 which I'm sure will carry on for an incredibly 00:11:31.970 --> 00:11:35.529 long, long, long time moving forward. Yeah. Oh, 00:11:35.610 --> 00:11:38.909 he's top of the game. I mean, I mean, I know 00:11:38.909 --> 00:11:42.149 that he wouldn't send anything out for release 00:11:42.149 --> 00:11:48.850 unless it wasn't. Perfect. That's right. And 00:11:48.850 --> 00:11:54.090 for the selectors in San Marino to actually know 00:11:54.090 --> 00:11:57.029 who Martin Sutton is, that's pretty good going 00:11:57.029 --> 00:12:01.190 really. Very, very, very. 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I rang Martin and I says I 00:14:04.820 --> 00:14:07.539 think we need some more songs Martin and he says 00:14:07.539 --> 00:14:09.700 well what I'm going to suggest to you Jean I 00:14:09.700 --> 00:14:11.960 need you to think about it because every other 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:15.720 time it was a question of us doing soon meetings 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:20.759 and doing lots of lyrical writing and music writing 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:24.019 and then you know months later I'd go down to 00:14:24.019 --> 00:14:27.019 the studio and record he says how about you come 00:14:27.019 --> 00:14:30.799 down here for five days five intense days we 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:35.179 write two songs, we produce two songs, you record 00:14:35.179 --> 00:14:39.220 two songs, and we release two songs. And I thought, 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:44.320 okay, absolutely, okay, why not indeed? And it 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:48.379 was the most incredible experience. And to work 00:14:48.379 --> 00:14:52.840 with such a man of his caliber in respect of 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:59.309 the intensity, the commitment. uh from from walking 00:14:59.309 --> 00:15:01.730 would not through even walking through the door 00:15:01.730 --> 00:15:05.610 from getting in the car to go into his studio 00:15:05.610 --> 00:15:10.909 you know um i always remember of the two songs 00:15:10.909 --> 00:15:15.710 we ended up doing um when i because i just jumped 00:15:15.710 --> 00:15:21.049 in i got this on my mind So much it's it's been 00:15:21.049 --> 00:15:23.970 there ever since I was on the train and and all 00:15:23.970 --> 00:15:27.470 I can think of is the title has to be Find my 00:15:27.470 --> 00:15:31.529 way to you You know, it's a bit of a tricky one, 00:15:31.649 --> 00:15:35.490 too But but then when we got down to it, it was 00:15:35.490 --> 00:15:39.710 so amazing because what we were trying to establish 00:15:39.710 --> 00:15:44.129 is When you're in a relationship and that relationship 00:15:44.129 --> 00:15:49.500 breaks up What do you do What do you do? I mean, 00:15:49.519 --> 00:15:52.039 we're all very different and we all have our 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:55.759 own ways of deciding what we're going to do next. 00:15:56.039 --> 00:16:00.860 So what we were trying to establish is, do you 00:16:00.860 --> 00:16:04.620 rush head on into a relationship without thought, 00:16:04.820 --> 00:16:06.659 without, and just go, well, I've got to meet 00:16:06.659 --> 00:16:09.720 somebody else I've got to meet, or do you sit 00:16:09.720 --> 00:16:14.100 back and take the time to get better, to heal, 00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:19.799 and then go, well, it will be then once I feel 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:22.860 better that I'll be able to find my way to you. 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:27.779 And it was just so amazing that throughout my 00:16:27.779 --> 00:16:33.700 life and the relationships that have been and 00:16:33.700 --> 00:16:36.899 gone in respect of they've broken down and there's 00:16:36.899 --> 00:16:42.460 no way back, what do you do? And there has been 00:16:42.460 --> 00:16:44.600 that time, there has been that time when I've 00:16:44.600 --> 00:16:47.539 gone Oh, well, just start dating again. Just, 00:16:47.539 --> 00:16:51.840 you know, do what I want to do. And then, of 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:56.820 course, you then think, well, this isn't actually 00:16:56.820 --> 00:17:01.299 working for me this way. So then that's when 00:17:01.299 --> 00:17:04.900 you sit back and you just allow yourself the 00:17:04.900 --> 00:17:09.380 time to really, really heal before you move on 00:17:09.380 --> 00:17:12.559 and then meet someone. And it was amazing because 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:17.779 even Martin what was saying about his own personal 00:17:17.779 --> 00:17:21.880 journey and it just felt right and it was from 00:17:21.880 --> 00:17:24.960 and it was from that perspective that we wrote 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:31.500 Find My Way To You. Yeah. What have we got planned 00:17:31.500 --> 00:17:34.380 for the next year? Can we ask about Summer May? 00:17:34.579 --> 00:17:37.720 Is it going to come out at some point? Yes. Yeah, 00:17:37.960 --> 00:17:43.539 I'm hoping to release Summer May, which was recorded 00:17:43.539 --> 00:17:52.960 last April, May, sometime like that. Hoping to 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:57.299 release that this year. If not, it can always 00:17:57.299 --> 00:18:02.400 be the first release of 2027. Because I think 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:04.849 come September, Hopefully, we're going to have 00:18:04.849 --> 00:18:09.650 a pretty, pretty busy time. Yeah. Yeah. And of 00:18:09.650 --> 00:18:12.529 course, the second song that I wrote with Martin 00:18:12.529 --> 00:18:16.750 has all to do with with that very, very busy 00:18:16.750 --> 00:18:21.549 time that, you know, can we talk about it? I'm 00:18:21.549 --> 00:18:23.589 not too sure. We can make it. We just can't play 00:18:23.589 --> 00:18:25.589 the song. And I don't think we can any of the 00:18:25.589 --> 00:18:28.329 lyrics at all. Right. We can mention the song, 00:18:28.529 --> 00:18:31.470 yes, and we've mentioned the country even. I'm 00:18:31.470 --> 00:18:34.609 happy with that. So you can say or I can say, 00:18:34.670 --> 00:18:37.809 I don't mind. OK, well, I will let you say as 00:18:37.809 --> 00:18:40.450 you've done all the very, very hard work to get 00:18:40.450 --> 00:18:44.730 us to where we are. But in respect of the song, 00:18:45.750 --> 00:18:48.549 when Martin and I got together for these two 00:18:48.549 --> 00:18:52.069 very intense songs that we had over the period 00:18:52.069 --> 00:18:56.690 of five days, that were... written that were 00:18:56.690 --> 00:19:00.589 produced that were recorded within those five 00:19:00.589 --> 00:19:07.089 day period and the second one of the two is a 00:19:07.089 --> 00:19:13.890 song called Find the Place I Live and well it's 00:19:13.890 --> 00:19:16.089 even I don't really want to mention it because 00:19:16.089 --> 00:19:20.779 it's just so exciting if all that we hope to 00:19:20.779 --> 00:19:25.680 achieve is how we achieve it but um it it's uh 00:19:25.680 --> 00:19:30.400 definitely um a song typical of what you would 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:35.500 expect from a contest like Eurovision so so you 00:19:35.500 --> 00:19:38.839 said the rest basically yes it's a fantastic 00:19:38.839 --> 00:19:41.759 project which technically has been talked about 00:19:41.759 --> 00:19:43.359 for a couple of years between us all because 00:19:43.359 --> 00:19:46.519 i've always wanted to be basically part of a 00:19:46.519 --> 00:19:49.359 Eurovision project as behind an artist and we 00:19:49.359 --> 00:19:51.880 nearly did this in the late 90s but unfortunately 00:19:51.880 --> 00:19:53.980 whatever year it was Jonathan King got arrested 00:19:53.980 --> 00:19:56.319 and got into a lot of trouble because he was 00:19:56.319 --> 00:19:58.680 in charge of Eurovision and it was perfect under 00:19:58.680 --> 00:20:01.019 him because he did the selection process and 00:20:01.019 --> 00:20:03.900 the last 12 songs for the BBC for us to vote 00:20:03.900 --> 00:20:06.119 at home it worked under him and we got so many 00:20:06.119 --> 00:20:08.440 seconds of the odd first under him but of course 00:20:08.440 --> 00:20:12.380 things changed and he's no longer welcome. to 00:20:12.380 --> 00:20:17.039 be part of the selection process but to represent 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:20.160 the UK is a close shot, it's impossible and the 00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:24.140 BBC still have the rights to the Eurovision till 00:20:24.140 --> 00:20:26.920 the 2028 contest and of course it could get renewed 00:20:26.920 --> 00:20:30.099 even, that's the problem, it could do but fortunately 00:20:30.099 --> 00:20:34.539 ITV also are members of the European Broadcasting 00:20:34.539 --> 00:20:36.619 Union so they could take it on quite legally. 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:40.140 And now it's ITV. I mean, I like the reason why 00:20:40.140 --> 00:20:42.500 TV channels, I preferred it. But when it comes 00:20:42.500 --> 00:20:45.599 to something like this, a national ITV channel 00:20:45.599 --> 00:20:50.160 makes it a reality to take it from the BBC. It 00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:53.339 makes it plausible rather than it's a southern 00:20:53.339 --> 00:20:56.579 and that's how I look rather than Meridian or 00:20:56.579 --> 00:20:59.359 HTV or Grenada or someone rather than just them 00:20:59.359 --> 00:21:02.940 getting the rights. A whole ITV one channel makes 00:21:02.940 --> 00:21:07.329 it a reality. I believe, definitely. And that 00:21:07.329 --> 00:21:10.710 little thing with STV who've taken over Grampian, 00:21:11.049 --> 00:21:13.089 they're affiliated, although they're their own 00:21:13.089 --> 00:21:16.609 company, but they too are a member of the European 00:21:16.609 --> 00:21:19.789 Broadcasting Union as well. So let's make life 00:21:19.789 --> 00:21:22.390 quite simple. We have done all that. So yeah, 00:21:22.589 --> 00:21:27.829 it's simple if BBC lose it. Very simple. So it 00:21:27.829 --> 00:21:30.869 was finding a different country. Now, Gina, you 00:21:30.869 --> 00:21:33.319 and I in fact in Malta not only have you done 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:35.500 your singing and some concerts and things and 00:21:35.500 --> 00:21:38.119 all right the Maltese are such friendly people 00:21:38.119 --> 00:21:40.359 they love the British and of course going back 00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:42.240 from the days when our troops were there during 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:44.920 the second world war they went so much so to 00:21:44.920 --> 00:21:49.099 making uh English their joint native language 00:21:49.099 --> 00:21:51.240 everyone can speak it there and even so much 00:21:51.240 --> 00:21:53.359 so as changing to our side of the road for driving 00:21:53.359 --> 00:21:56.440 which they still do right so when it came to 00:21:56.440 --> 00:21:59.480 Eurovision they had selected British people English 00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:02.130 people British people call it what you like and 00:22:02.130 --> 00:22:03.930 I had selected them in the past but the rules 00:22:03.930 --> 00:22:06.609 have changed slightly. You now have to have somebody 00:22:06.609 --> 00:22:10.970 in the backing backing you that is born in Malta. 00:22:12.250 --> 00:22:15.109 This song we have, we can't change, it's perfect. 00:22:15.269 --> 00:22:19.349 You've got the Martin Sutton, can we mention 00:22:19.349 --> 00:22:23.230 Kat Amy singing? Yes, of course, please. Yourself 00:22:23.230 --> 00:22:26.210 and myself, to me it's a team that's going to 00:22:26.210 --> 00:22:28.750 work. It's got everything there. Everyone's doing 00:22:28.750 --> 00:22:30.809 their own bit. It's perfect. And we all know 00:22:30.809 --> 00:22:32.309 each other. So there's not actually a problem 00:22:32.309 --> 00:22:33.970 if I need to speak to Martin about something 00:22:33.970 --> 00:22:37.650 about the staging and running. You know, it's 00:22:37.650 --> 00:22:39.369 there, isn't it? It's just there. Absolutely. 00:22:40.470 --> 00:22:44.569 So we've found San Marino have no restrictions 00:22:44.569 --> 00:22:49.690 at all. They welcome they welcome entries from 00:22:49.690 --> 00:22:52.890 other European countries. Another great thing 00:22:52.890 --> 00:22:57.559 about San Marino is they're clearly not ageist 00:22:57.559 --> 00:23:02.740 in any way to the extent that Boy George is older 00:23:02.740 --> 00:23:05.500 than all of us and he got selected to do his 00:23:05.500 --> 00:23:07.640 last 20 seconds with whatever the girl was called 00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:09.859 last year and they don't always go for famous 00:23:09.859 --> 00:23:12.019 people either but they're quite happy to select 00:23:12.019 --> 00:23:14.519 somebody in their 50s or their 60s and just put 00:23:14.519 --> 00:23:16.839 I just want somebody to be good they they not 00:23:16.839 --> 00:23:19.039 only want a representation for Samara you know 00:23:19.039 --> 00:23:22.019 they want to win it you know it's the world stage 00:23:22.019 --> 00:23:23.559 they're not going to win the world cup they're 00:23:23.559 --> 00:23:24.940 not going to qualify for the world cup there's 00:23:24.940 --> 00:23:26.519 not much they're going to do but they can win 00:23:26.519 --> 00:23:29.880 a contest right and bring it back to san marino 00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:32.200 for the next year something like that and of 00:23:32.200 --> 00:23:34.400 course the other thing is for such a small country 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:36.839 i mean it doesn't make anything but it could 00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:39.000 really help its tourism couldn't it you know 00:23:39.000 --> 00:23:42.599 it's worth it you know all around so we are going 00:23:42.599 --> 00:23:45.259 for san marino but we can't we can't let anybody 00:23:45.259 --> 00:23:47.980 hear a song or hear any of the words until september 00:23:47.980 --> 00:23:52.000 the first at the earliest Excellent, yeah. That's 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:54.500 the number one date across Eurovision territory. 00:23:54.940 --> 00:23:57.819 But it is the best, there was stuff there. Everything 00:23:57.819 --> 00:24:00.619 is in this song. And Gina, you know as well as 00:24:00.619 --> 00:24:02.319 I do, if there was the slightest thing wrong 00:24:02.319 --> 00:24:05.640 with it, I'd say. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. 00:24:06.819 --> 00:24:10.500 Right or wrong, I would say. I'm very excited 00:24:10.500 --> 00:24:14.559 about some of the staging concepts that you mentioned. 00:24:15.579 --> 00:24:19.720 And it feels like a complete... complete package. 00:24:20.319 --> 00:24:27.119 So let's trust ourselves and the universe and 00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:31.680 San Marino that that all happens, which will 00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:35.779 be incredibly exciting. Incredibly. Yeah. By 00:24:35.779 --> 00:24:37.599 the time we've finished, everybody's going to 00:24:37.599 --> 00:24:41.019 know where San Marino is. Great. Not just within 00:24:41.019 --> 00:24:42.640 Italy, somebody's going to know exactly where 00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:44.599 it is in that top north -hand corner. They're 00:24:44.599 --> 00:24:47.740 going to know. Excellent, absolutely. A little 00:24:47.740 --> 00:25:11.890 bit on the map, yes. Yeah, very much so. Nick 00:25:11.890 --> 00:25:14.130 and Sue, if you're looking for the perfect gift 00:25:14.130 --> 00:25:16.750 either for yourself or for a fellow fan, you 00:25:16.750 --> 00:25:19.490 need to check out the Old Glory iconic music 00:25:19.490 --> 00:25:22.099 and sports store. They've been the gold standard 00:25:22.099 --> 00:25:26.200 for fan merch since 1969. 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That was a great one. Make 00:26:50.609 --> 00:26:53.130 you feel my love, yes. Yes, we've had some real 00:26:53.130 --> 00:26:56.299 classics. Now would you say, would you say looking 00:26:56.299 --> 00:26:57.920 back at these songs, because we've obviously 00:26:57.920 --> 00:27:00.259 discussed them in detail from the time we first 00:27:00.259 --> 00:27:03.200 met, which wasn't right, was it? No, find my 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:05.920 way to you, wasn't it? As you just said, yeah. 00:27:07.700 --> 00:27:11.000 Is it a story, more or less, of your life as 00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:12.960 your life's progressing? I mean, can we expect 00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:17.240 the next stage that you go to, Eurovision aside 00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:21.180 perhaps, or maybe not, can we say that's all 00:27:21.180 --> 00:27:24.299 different stages of your life experiences? Very, 00:27:24.299 --> 00:27:27.559 very much so. And you've just sort of really, 00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:32.980 really just said exactly what, when I write, 00:27:33.420 --> 00:27:37.500 what I experience and what is happening to my 00:27:37.500 --> 00:27:41.329 life right now, because it is a reflection. It's 00:27:41.329 --> 00:27:45.089 a reflection of what I've been through throughout 00:27:45.089 --> 00:27:49.630 my career, which has been so vast and so varied 00:27:49.630 --> 00:27:54.289 and so incredibly wonderful with all the wonderful, 00:27:54.289 --> 00:27:59.069 wonderful stars that I have worked with and met. 00:28:01.950 --> 00:28:06.490 It has just been an incredible journey, and there's 00:28:06.490 --> 00:28:10.009 no signs of it stopping anytime soon. But it 00:28:10.009 --> 00:28:13.109 was so funny, you should actually say that, because 00:28:13.109 --> 00:28:17.069 I was speaking with my producer that lives near 00:28:17.069 --> 00:28:20.390 me, and I was saying to him, I says, I would 00:28:20.390 --> 00:28:24.829 love to do some really, really powerful cover 00:28:24.829 --> 00:28:27.950 versions, just to keep them in the can, just 00:28:27.950 --> 00:28:31.569 to have them there, just so I know I want to 00:28:31.569 --> 00:28:34.690 release this one now and I'm going to tell you 00:28:34.690 --> 00:28:38.329 something one of those songs I don't know when 00:28:38.329 --> 00:28:42.710 I'll release it but it's the most gorgeous song 00:28:42.710 --> 00:28:45.250 and I know you're all gonna nod your head but 00:28:45.250 --> 00:28:49.130 it's a song called if I never sing another song 00:28:49.130 --> 00:28:53.950 and um and we've we've recorded it we're comping 00:28:53.950 --> 00:28:59.799 it at the moment and uh it's it that is my life 00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:03.500 honestly that you know um and i guess the other 00:29:03.500 --> 00:29:07.720 one that i will possibly um record at some point 00:29:07.720 --> 00:29:11.339 in the future is uh born to sing forever which 00:29:11.339 --> 00:29:16.380 um is on all my uh instagram and you know because 00:29:16.380 --> 00:29:19.079 you know that you know since i was a child i've 00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:22.970 never known anything else so um Yeah, so those 00:29:22.970 --> 00:29:27.369 are two of the songs that I would definitely 00:29:27.369 --> 00:29:30.970 love to have. They're ready to go whenever I 00:29:30.970 --> 00:29:35.430 feel, whenever I feel the timing is right. And, 00:29:35.809 --> 00:29:40.609 you know, because when I was in concert and doing 00:29:40.609 --> 00:29:43.750 the theatres and doing, it was all these big 00:29:43.750 --> 00:29:48.970 powerhouses of songs that I used to sing. So 00:29:48.970 --> 00:29:52.380 I thought, gosh, you know, just to just to have 00:29:52.380 --> 00:29:56.099 them there would uh yeah i think i'd be very 00:29:56.099 --> 00:29:59.480 pleased if if that if they were recognized and 00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:02.359 people said gosh oh and especially for those 00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:04.759 who have never ever heard them you know it's 00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:09.019 all go wow well what a good song so indeed did 00:30:09.019 --> 00:30:11.099 we mention wandering girl amongst that lot yes 00:30:11.099 --> 00:30:13.079 you did tell me is there so many great songs 00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:15.940 that it's becoming a list now jina that's right 00:30:16.190 --> 00:30:18.049 But you mentioned that about all the great people 00:30:18.049 --> 00:30:20.990 you've worked with and what a great life you've 00:30:20.990 --> 00:30:24.130 had. Now, we look upon that. I mean, I had a 00:30:24.130 --> 00:30:27.190 big bit of a radio career before I ever met Sue, 00:30:27.309 --> 00:30:31.190 going in the 80s and into the 90s. I was a club 00:30:31.190 --> 00:30:34.349 DJ as well, but I mean, we had a phase then of 00:30:34.349 --> 00:30:35.890 interviewing some really great people. Now, if 00:30:35.890 --> 00:30:37.789 we look back, I think we would say we've had 00:30:37.789 --> 00:30:40.609 an amazing time. definitely meeting people like 00:30:40.609 --> 00:30:43.390 you but you know you're right up there with the 00:30:43.390 --> 00:30:45.890 greats but look at some of those A -listers we've 00:30:45.890 --> 00:30:49.450 interviewed I mean incredible hobby to have yeah 00:30:49.450 --> 00:30:52.009 absolutely that's the incredible thing their 00:30:52.009 --> 00:30:55.490 promoters come twice you think wow okay that's 00:30:55.490 --> 00:31:01.130 right I don't know it's it's surreal in a way 00:31:01.130 --> 00:31:03.849 but we do it in such a way that we don't want 00:31:03.849 --> 00:31:05.490 to make them feel like gods or anything we just 00:31:05.490 --> 00:31:08.509 want to chat like we do like friends And I think 00:31:08.509 --> 00:31:11.130 that's why they like it so much. Very, very much 00:31:11.130 --> 00:31:14.509 so. Very much so. And I totally agree with you 00:31:14.509 --> 00:31:18.029 with all the big stars like Bob Monkhouse, like 00:31:18.029 --> 00:31:22.529 Tom O 'Connor, Billy Connolly, Chubby Brown, 00:31:24.009 --> 00:31:28.369 Lulu, and Sheila Ferguson from The Three Degrees. 00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:32.680 Yeah, I know you interviewed her. And, I mean, 00:31:32.859 --> 00:31:37.079 the list goes on. Oh, David Essex, Sasha DeBelle. 00:31:37.299 --> 00:31:41.079 Oh, wonderful. Oh, yes. Wonderful. Absolutely. 00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:45.240 Yeah. So, you know, all these amazing, amazing 00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:50.480 people. And I'm just so grateful and so thankful 00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:53.950 I've had that opportunity. Truly, yeah. we have 00:31:53.950 --> 00:31:56.369 to and you have to whenever we decide not that 00:31:56.369 --> 00:31:58.910 we're ever going to retire of course we can be 00:31:58.910 --> 00:32:00.509 carried out in our boxes long before we actually 00:32:00.509 --> 00:32:01.869 say right that's it we're giving up now because 00:32:01.869 --> 00:32:05.089 you don't do it do you no but i think we you 00:32:05.089 --> 00:32:07.269 yourself and ourselves should actually write 00:32:07.269 --> 00:32:09.490 a book about the great people we've met and worked 00:32:09.490 --> 00:32:13.930 with positive you know there's very few bad ones 00:32:13.930 --> 00:32:15.549 isn't it but if you all did like that one they're 00:32:15.549 --> 00:32:18.210 such great people do this book about loads you 00:32:18.210 --> 00:32:20.029 would about the people you've worked with there's 00:32:20.029 --> 00:32:24.269 tony christy as well there's so many Tina Turner 00:32:24.269 --> 00:32:29.190 and Tina Turner and Percy Sledge yeah absolutely 00:32:29.190 --> 00:32:33.930 absolutely so that's a project if you ever have 00:32:33.930 --> 00:32:35.569 a voice problem again that's the time to start 00:32:35.569 --> 00:32:38.609 writing it indeed and put it away when you can 00:32:38.609 --> 00:32:41.430 sing that's it that's what yeah yeah it's good. 00:32:41.430 --> 00:32:44.089 Gina very important question do you have to protect 00:32:44.089 --> 00:32:45.630 your voice do you have to be careful because 00:32:45.630 --> 00:32:47.730 getting these high notes do you have to be careful 00:32:47.730 --> 00:32:52.490 with your voice? Well um Because obviously we're 00:32:52.490 --> 00:32:55.910 in this heat wave, aren't we? And of course, 00:32:56.049 --> 00:33:00.809 obviously in studio conditions, it's quite difficult 00:33:00.809 --> 00:33:04.769 to record in a studio at the moment with the 00:33:04.769 --> 00:33:09.190 heat. But what I definitely, definitely have 00:33:09.190 --> 00:33:13.730 to be very careful of is air conditioning. Yeah, 00:33:13.930 --> 00:33:17.200 because it just like dries your vocals out. without 00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:19.420 a doubt. It affects me and I'm not a singer. 00:33:19.500 --> 00:33:21.759 It affects me with my breathing problem. Right, 00:33:22.099 --> 00:33:25.839 yes, so you know that's definitely a no -no with 00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:29.319 the air conditioning. When I had to take Ian 00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:35.559 to hospital last week and we walked out of like 00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:39.819 I don't know maybe 80, 90 degrees into like freezing 00:33:39.819 --> 00:33:42.700 air conditioning and I went Ian I'm dropping 00:33:42.700 --> 00:33:46.460 you off here and I'm going back outside because 00:33:46.460 --> 00:33:49.740 unfortunately I had a dreadful episode with air 00:33:49.740 --> 00:33:52.339 conditioning and the heat and I actually ended 00:33:52.339 --> 00:33:56.619 up in A &E and they They thought well, I was 00:33:56.619 --> 00:33:59.200 really poorly. I couldn't breathe and what it 00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:02.200 was. It was a condition I can't remember the 00:34:02.200 --> 00:34:05.779 medical term, but it's a it's a condition where 00:34:05.779 --> 00:34:09.739 the lungs get inflamed Because you've been in 00:34:09.739 --> 00:34:12.840 a warm place and then you go directly into a 00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:16.860 cold and the lungs go into spasm Gina social 00:34:16.860 --> 00:34:19.280 media time websites and anything else you got 00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:22.579 please. Okay. Here we go. We've got Gina Ross 00:34:24.119 --> 00:34:28.599 Gina Ross dot co dot uk that's my website Instagram 00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:36.239 is Gina Ross dot 2024 Facebook is Gina Ross and 00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:43.940 um uh and LinkedIn is Gina hyphen Ross at LinkedIn 00:34:43.940 --> 00:34:48.739 so that's the three um yeah yeah Perfect. Gina, 00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:51.840 it's been great to have a catch up with you. 00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:53.920 We always say this because you're a regular. 00:34:54.179 --> 00:34:55.760 We've been looking forward to the next time already, 00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:58.300 Gina. And I think we've got to make that song 00:34:58.300 --> 00:35:00.639 the last one in this season. See how that works 00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:05.380 out. Wonderful. And this should go out next week, 00:35:05.619 --> 00:35:08.619 one after tomorrow. So, yeah. Gina, thanks so 00:35:08.619 --> 00:35:10.880 much for coming back on Chatterbox. Thank you. 00:35:11.500 --> 00:35:14.760 I love you dearly. Thank you so much for having 00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:39.170 me. God bless. Bye bye. Bye. Bye. You've been 00:35:39.170 --> 00:35:41.909 listening to the Chatterbox Redux podcast with 00:35:41.909 --> 00:35:44.969 Sue and Nick and today our special guest was 00:35:44.969 --> 00:35:47.369 Gina Ross. 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