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Redux podcast with Sue and Nick and today our

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special guest is Chantelle June. This is Nick

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and Sue with Chatterbox giving you all you need

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to know about musical entertainment. Oh yeah,

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Chatterbox! And now on Chatterbox, we're just

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lucky enough to welcome Chantelle June. Chantelle,

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welcome to Chatterbox. How are you? Hello, Chantelle.

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I'm good. I'm good. How are you? Very good. Thank

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you. Great to meet you. Right. We've got some

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stuff to talk about what's going on at the moment.

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Let's start a little bit earlier. Let's see.

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When did you start singing? I mean, did you want

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to be a singer as a kid or when did it all start?

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Yeah, I was... I was... involved in singing as

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a young child. So I believe, yeah, sang for our

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symphony orchestra. And I was in choirs and we

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kind of traveled all over Manitoba, my province.

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And then I joined a cover band in my 20s and

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kind of put everything on hold for a while, just

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raising a family. So I kind of got back into

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it a few years ago. Okay, what did the family

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think of what Mum does and things? What's your

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general opinion? The kids get a lot of attention

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from it, from their friends and people in the

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community for sure, so they get asked a lot of

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questions. That's good, that's good. So, when

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did it start? Was that your first time around

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before the family and that? When did you actually

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start the singing side of it? How long ago? As

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young as I can remember, but my first live performance,

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I think I was 21. Okay. So yeah, but it's been

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a while. Yeah, and what was that? Was that in

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the bar or what was the first one? Yes, it was.

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Can you remember how many people were there?

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It was a couple hundred, I believe. That's not

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bad for a first one. That's a good start. Really

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good start. I was so nervous. That's alright,

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I like that, that's good. And the sort of thing

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that got you down, was there anything in college

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or school, did you ever do any singing of any

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sort there or was it literally just when you

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were 21 that was it, you stepped out and there

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you were? That's it. Okay. No, no school, nothing,

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no. And when it comes to songwriting, when did

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you write your first song? I dare say that came

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a little while before. I was a teenager, that

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was probably my outlist. My parents getting divorced

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and just trying to manage all those emotions,

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right? So songwriting was my go -to. I actually

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found an old one in a box not long ago. I was

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kind of laughing at how it was written. It wasn't

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bad for a 15, 16, but definitely come a long

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way. Brilliant. Oh dear. Well, I added a little

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bit. This has always been a fun. It's something

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I've been doing in more recent times where I

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do, I heard this on BBC Radio 2 in the UK, actually,

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where they have a guest on and they do the google

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gemini ai thing and they they they put in about

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an artist and see what comes back if it's right

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or wrong radio 2 yeah thank you that's what i

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said oh okay thanks dear you're just making sure

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right uh or you're just catching up no i'm listening

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i mean okay you're caught out brilliant so this

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is it uh shantelle june is an independent canadian

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singer songwriter based in Manitoba, Canada.

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Her musical style heavily... You can deny everything,

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by the way. If it was anything that was tabloid,

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I wouldn't read it anyway, so don't worry. We'd

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let you know it was there, though. We wouldn't

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send it on air. Her musical style heavily centres

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on alternative indie and indie pop rock textures.

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Though she has also explored country roots in

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some of her acoustic and digital releases, she

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has building her presence online across streaming

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platforms sharing both original tracks and melancholic

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stripped back covers notable tracks no mercy

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like that one you and the moon to be human lonely

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ghost wicked game cover she maintains an active

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independent profile sharing behind the scenes

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content lyric videos and acoustic snippets of

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her upcoming projects directly with her listeners

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and platforms like youtube tiktok and spotify

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how correct is that That was pretty impressive

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actually, it was pretty bang on. Good, that's

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good, that's good. Your track, No Mercy, what's

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that about? Some years ago I was in an abusive

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relationship and so that was probably one of

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my darker songs and I was actually talking to

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a close family member about it and he always

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reviews my music videos and everything and he

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says I looked at the video, the AI video that

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you put out, he says, and I thought the song

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was about going out to maybe take someone out.

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And then he says, I looked at the lyrics, he

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says, I realized it was about justice. And I

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said, yeah, it's supposed to be about taking

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your power back for sure. And because there's

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so many people out there that are Still stuck

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in abusive relationships don't know how to get

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out. There's not a clear way and it could be

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so dangerous and so isolating I put that song

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on it's probably my favorite because it is so

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real and empowering Just to let others know they're

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not alone and that they they can They can take

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account of at least acknowledge and let the other

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person take accountability for these things instead

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of sweeping under the rug, right? So it's a hard

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topic, but I didn't want anyone to feel alone

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in that, so that's where that came from. Great

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song. Well, good on you for doing that, because

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you know yourself, even on each of our radio

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stations, there's going to be someone listening

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to each one, unfortunately, that's going to be

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in that situation. Common thing, isn't it? I

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mean, obviously you've written the song, you're

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out of it now. And my understanding is it's the

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hardest thing is to get out of the relationship.

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That's the hardest thing. You've lost your friends,

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they've been taken away from you. What advice,

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if it's a hard one, put you on the spot, but

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what advice do you have to anybody in that situation,

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listening to this interview, listening to that

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song? Okay, they've got the song to listen to

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and we will be playing it. But what advice have

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you got when they're just sat there listening

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to this? What can they do? What hope have they

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got? I would say go easy on yourself because,

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you know, when you're in that situation, you

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do what you have to do to survive. And there's

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no simple, clear way to get out. So you do what

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you have to do and just give yourself that grace.

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And when you have the strength, I mean, I would

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say definitely surround yourself with people

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that are going to build you up because you need

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that support. Whether you have to do that quietly

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or not, but you need that support and go easy

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on yourself because you do what you got to do.

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And when you get that strength build up, you

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can get out. And it doesn't always and after

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you're out, but it's definitely a lot more freeing.

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And when you have the strength to leave, it just

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keeps going after that. So that's what I like

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that music. Music is the outlet for me, right?

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And it's ultimately, I make sure that it is real

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because that's, you know, we have AI music right

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now and it's actually. It bothers me how much

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I like some of the AI music. It sounds quite

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good, but it will never replace that human emotion

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and the struggles and real -life scenarios, right?

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CBUKRDUX. Tell us about some of your other songs

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that we got here. There's some I listed here,

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actually. I mean, Wikigame is one that we know

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about and we've played. Tell us about why you

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recorded that. Wikigame, I've done a lot of covers.

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I happen to just be drawn to that one right after.

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right after I was newly single, actually. And

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I think it was the realization that I was like,

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oh, I'm going to maybe want to fall in love again

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one day, but that's going to be hard, right?

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So I don't know if I want to fall in love. So

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that emotion just kind of went right in there

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and it blew up more than any other cover song

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I had. So I was really grateful for that. OK,

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I've got to ask you a couple here that I don't

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know about, which is news to me. So this has

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come up on the Google Gemini AI thing. So we've

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got You and the Moon and To Be Human, both interesting

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titles. What's the story behind those? To Be

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Human was... Had some people in my circle that

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were struggling with addictions. Okay, and it

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was more of a witness witnessing of that and

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and just how difficult it was for them to not

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only get out of the addictions but To give themselves

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forgiveness and love right because they just

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beat themselves up and it's never any cycle so

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the song at the end is is really meant to help

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Them look at themselves and say yeah, I can forgive

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myself, too which I think is very freeing. And

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You and the Moon was about really just a love

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song. Having that, that's a very amazing connection

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that you and I'm absolutely obsessed with looking

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up at the moon. So I said, if I fall in love

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one day and we can sit there and look up at the

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moon together, that's like my dream. So that's

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nice. Yeah, absolutely. Would you say all of

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your songs are true -life stories that have affected

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you in some way or another, or your friends or

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whatever? Every song you've ever written, do

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you think they're all true -life? They're all

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real, whether it's my story or someone else's,

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for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that. Okay,

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and when it comes to, have you done an album

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as yet? Have you really, have you just released

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singles or have you released collectively say,

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this is Chantelle June's album, it's called blah,

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blah, blah. Have you put a whole load together

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yet, a collection or has it been an album in

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its own right? So far they've just all been singles.

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But I mean, I've got like 30, 40 songs that are

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on the waiting list to come out. So I'm just

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trying to do one at a time. I don't know, I might

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do an album at one point, but. Just drop them.

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That's an anthology that is. It's about an album,

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a whole anthology there. Did I mention Good Enough?

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I don't think we've mentioned Good Enough, have

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we? Good Enough is something that we got sent

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not that long ago. Could you tell us about Good

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Enough? That was my first single I put out. I

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think it was a year before the other ones actually.

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So it was a big deal, a big day, and that song

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was I had a teenage daughter, had a teenage daughter,

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I wrote it. And she's going off to school and

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just having a hard time, right? Like sitting

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in, feeling like she's gonna fit in, getting

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picked on. And I was sitting there talking with

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her that evening and just trying to build her

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up, right? And I went to bed a little later on,

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couldn't fall asleep and the song came to me.

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So I was like, okay, I'm gonna write the song

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for her. and put it out there for all the other

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parents and kids that want to, you know, that

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can benefit from it too. Why pick on other children?

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It's what they do, unfortunately, isn't it? It

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is, yeah. And in a lot of cases, I don't know

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Chantelle, I mean we had to recognise him when

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he was young, but in a lot of cases it stems

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from jealousy, quite incredibly. I got bullied

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because I wear glasses, because of my surname,

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but look at me now. Yeah, but you've got a long

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surname. It's not like there's even any way out.

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Yeah, my nickname at school was Bomber. My surname's

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Lancaster and I used to get called Bomber. I

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would have said you got away quite lightly, but

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there you go. Well, we've already decided. You've

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got an anthology full of material waiting to

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come out, so just sit in there in vaults. Might

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be an exaggeration. So what's next? What are

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you planning to bring out next? I'm debating.

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There's two songs. One's a little bit darker.

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It's about getting involved, getting into the

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dating world and just playing some of those games

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that people play, right? About that. And then

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the other one's called Homestick. and that's

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a little more upbeat happier um and about moving

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away from home just missing everyone back home

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so okay okay shantow if you could sing any one

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of your songs which singer or band would you

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want to sing a song with of one of yours so it's

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a duet or band yeah or band could be a band duet

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uh which song sorry which band Would I have to

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sing one of my songs? Yeah, if you were to do

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a duet or something or to record with a band,

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you had to choose as to who it would be. Who

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would the singer or the band be? And what song

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of yours would it be? Oh, man. Sorry. I'm in

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love with Lainey Wilson and Ella Langley right

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now so much. So I'd love to do a duet with one

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of them. OK. As far as which song I'm not sure

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because they're not they're country artists and

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not every one but maybe good enough Are you I

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mean I read out the thing from what Jim Knight

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AI said And basically, I think there was a it's

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kind of Brushed past the countryside I would

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say Yes, though she has explored country roots

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in some of her acoustic and digital releases,

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would you class yourself as being a little more

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country than that's insinuating you are? That

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almost insinuates that you've touched it in some

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acoustic stuff, but am I right in assuming that

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you're more country -fied than that, as a percentage

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of the material that you bring out? Well, everything

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I have sitting in my vault right now, I'd say

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50 % country and 50 % more pop. So I'm just trying

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to gauge my audience at this point, which one

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they prefer, right? And it seems like it's harder

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to get into the country industry, get noticed

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in that world, as opposed to having like more

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indie pop. It's a little easier to gain traction

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because country is one of those things that people

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either absolute lover they they hate it seems

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like there's no in between yeah but um i love

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countries so i still make it and which countries

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would you would you say you were most popular

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in canada or would you say that you've noticed

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audiences getting interested in you and other

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countries like uh the united kingdom for instance

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yeah i would say the the countryside is more

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united states uk okay for sure yeah okay and

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i think i'm sure am i right in saying that you

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had an interview not that long ago on chris james

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show and rni were you did you do that i did get

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going there i thought you had yeah yeah so yeah

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how did that go that was great it was great to

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meet him yeah we've well we've met him in real

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life we've been around his house yeah we've been

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around yeah not bragging we've been around his

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house had sandwiches haven't we yeah and the

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weird kitkat i think was popcorn kitkat Oh, I

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don't know, that's more your thing. That's not

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my thing, I just had it. Okay, so yeah, that's

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all you had done. So hopefully this leads to,

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and obviously Chatterbox is quite a big platform,

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so hopefully that brings some more interviews

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and some more, and of course your songs are being,

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because we're putting your songs into the interview,

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because that's being then heard, those songs

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are being heard on all those stations, so let's

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hope that spins a little bit for you over here

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as well, so yeah. Yeah, that's amazing. Okay,

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now, if you were to come back on this show as

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our guest in about six months or years time,

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what would you like to be telling Sue and I that

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you've achieved? I would say it'd be nice to

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have another four to six songs out. And it would

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be great to have some good traction on at least

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one of them. And kind of see what my audience

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is enjoying, right? So I think I'm kind of just

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exploring right now. But once I can see what

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people are really loving, then I can get more

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of that. So I'm just looking for hoping for that

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that direction from them really, because it's

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all for them at the end of the day. Sure. And

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all those people partying all around Ibiza and

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Mediterranean as well all summer, thinking of

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that. Is festival something you do or you would

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do? Is that, sorry? Festivals, going around to

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music festivals and being live there, is that

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something you've done or you would do? It's been

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in the back of my mind, I've been considering

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it, so it might be in the near future, in a year

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or two. I know Canada's mega with festivals,

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I know it is, I spoke to quite a few Canadian

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artists and yeah they're doing them already and

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yeah it's quite a lot, quite a lot. I guess it's

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nothing like here, we've got a few, we think

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we're doing well with 30 or 40, it's massive

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in Canada. The only problem is it's so far apart

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for each one, so you can't just do one weekend

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there or do a long weekend there and then get

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to the next one in no time because it's such

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a big country isn't it? Yeah, and every little

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small town is doing them. Okay, right, Chantelle.

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I'm sure we'll chat again sometime, but before

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we let you go, let's talk about some social media

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where people can, I mean, tell them what platforms

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they can find your music on, you know, YouTube,

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Facebook, websites, anything you've got, as long

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as it takes the floor is yours. I have everything

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streaming on all platforms and for social media.

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Facebook's where I tend to put a lot more time

00:24:06.970 --> 00:24:10.069
and energy into these days, but TikTok, YouTube,

00:24:10.309 --> 00:24:14.650
it's all Instagram too, everywhere. It's all

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out there. Fantastic. And yeah, Chantelle James,

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it's been great meeting you. Thank you for coming

00:24:22.160 --> 00:24:23.440
on Chattergong. And wish you the best of luck

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for the future and with your career as well.

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And best of luck with this latest thing with

00:24:28.019 --> 00:24:29.480
Flint Gunn. That's going to be really interesting

00:24:29.480 --> 00:24:32.640
to see how that works out. And no doubt you'll

00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:34.759
have a solo song on there yourself again soon.

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Sometimes soon when I get sent it. But Chris

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sends me everything anyway. Until next time,

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Chantelle. Thanks a lot. Cheers. Take care. Bye

00:24:44.960 --> 00:25:26.450
now. Bye. You've been listening to the Chatterbox

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