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Sue Glover, formerly of the original line -up
Brotherhood of Man and Sue and Sunny. this is
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welcome Sue Glover. Sue, welcome to Chatterbox.
How are you? I'm very well, Nick. Thank you.
Great to meet you, Alas. I've been aware of you
ever since I've been doing radio, so it's great
to meet you. Now, it's a great new album. I love
the single track. We were giving it some airplay
and we had it in our Hit and Miss competition
on Radio North Sea International. It was recently
a Sunday where people... where people could vote
if they thought it was going to be hit or not
and they make comments on it and yeah pretty
much favorable actually and they're looking forward
to the album so I have been giving it airplay
on the live shows as well but yeah so it's a
great opportunity to meet you and to have a chat
you know about your new stuff what you're doing
now but to put you in the picture now I was uh
see first the earliest I'm aware of you was a
duet with your your sister and uh that's Sue
and Sonny and then both members and that was
from the late 60s into the early 70s and you
were both members of the original line -up of
the Brotherhood of Man and of course you had
the most massive hits with United We Stand and
big hits in America as well 1970 follow -up Where
Are You Going To My Love top 30 hit and you just
I can see here just missed the top 50 of top
50 in those days you literally just missed it
by the narrow margins with California Sunday
Morning which just fell short at number 54 they
allowed me to sing that song so I was very honoured.
Lovely. United We Stand though I think is coming
to its own in more recent times especially with
things that's going on in the world it's getting
a lot of requests these days and I think people
are looking upon it as a peace anthem rather
than the sort of a love type song it's looked
upon as a peace anthem these days. I can imagine.
Which is great you know 56 years on and fantastically
it's got that second life for that reason so
great. Great. Now I'd like you to tell our listeners
as well because you've done an incredible amount
of backing. You've done a lot of studio work.
Do you want to tell us about some of the people
that you've recorded with? Well, there's quite
a few. Yes. Yeah, I have to sort of rack my brain.
I think you've done stuff with Elton John, haven't
you? Well, there's Brotherhood Man, Elton John.
We did two albums with Elton John. Lovely guy.
I knew him well. He was a session singer. Did
you know that? Did you know that, Nick? Well,
he was. He was a session singer. And we'd meet
in the studio some mornings. We'd meet, you know,
and one morning it was about a 10 o 'clock session
and I got there about 10 to 10 and he got there
about five to 10. And so I read, you know, blah,
blah. And the first thing he always used to do
is head for the piano. No matter where we were,
if there was a piano, he'd head for it and play
what he was about to write or what he'd just
written. And so I was standing there and we had
about five or four minutes to go before the session
started. And I said, so what you do? What's your
song? What's your latest song? And he said, I've
just written this song. I said, can I hear it?
He said, yep. So he played it. And you know,
that's the very first song I heard that he'd
written. and it was called Son of My Father.
Beautiful. Do you remember that song? I do. I
know the song you mean. Yes, absolutely. And
that was the very first song I ever heard. I
was in the studio at Phillips Studio that day
and I said, you know, one day everybody's going
to want to record your songs. You're such a fantastic
songwriter. I didn't know that it wouldn't be
long after he'd become like a legend. Do you
know? Because the songs he turned out were just
out of this world. Yeah, and he also made the
piano quite trendy. Yes, he did. Wonderful. And
the thing is that he was a very accomplished
musician. He really was very accomplished on
the keyboards. He was. Yeah, I did about a couple
of albums with him. Yes, your song Tiny Dancer,
I believe. You did some Mock the Hoop, All the
Young Dudes, T -Rex. I did seven tracks for T
-Rex. Donna, so much hot stuff on the radio.
Tom Jones, she's a lady. So don't set yourself
short. There's some amazing stuff there. So yeah,
and we're just skimming the surface there. So
what a great career. So fantastic. It was a wonderful
career, something that I loved. I loved singing.
I loved performing with the artists. You know,
it was great. And the chance we had doing all
that. Duets with David Jones, I see, things like
that. Yes. Wonderful. And he turned up at my
house. Well, he turned up at my house. My friend
phoned me from Paris, well, from France, and
said, can I bring a friend over because he wants
to fish? And I lived by the river. So I said,
yeah, sure, bring him over. And so he brought
this... young man bounced into my kitchen and
it was David Jones. Oh, wonderful. And I couldn't
believe it because I'd always admired him on
that Monkeys program. Yes, it was fantastic.
I wish you watched it, it was so great, you know,
but he was so effervescent, he was so upright,
you know, it caused us having brightness in the
house, you know. Yeah, I had the pleasure of
meeting him. And yes, yeah, absolutely. And he
said, He said, even when the light in the fridge
comes open, when you open the door, he has to
do five minutes. That's difficult, that's difficult.
Anyway, this new album, a new single, very exciting.
Now somebody told me, this is the listener actually,
told me that the actual title track... they'd
been waiting for it for a very long time from
you. Was this planned some years ago, the actual
title track? Yes, it was. It was planned a long
time ago. The record company were going to release
this song, you know, the title track from me,
and the same week or the same day they were going
to release it, Universal Records took over the
company and shelved all their releases, shelved
them. All of us were shelved. including that
song. I took the song and hid it up in my cupboard
and I thought one day I might bring this song
out. One day if I get the chance I'm going to
record this song. Well I recorded it already
because it was ready to be released and anyway
this opportunity came and so I brought it out
and the strings aren't the strings magnificent
on it? Absolutely beautiful. That's Chris Gunning
again, you know, he and his strings are beautiful.
And the vocals at the beginning and the vocals
with no instrumental at all, just your pure natural
vocals, beautiful. Beautiful. And yeah, so when
you hear from, so the guy's totally right and
said, yeah, I've been waiting for this for over
50 years. It's going to be so well worth waiting
for. Oh, isn't that lovely? It's very nice. They've
been writing to me about it. So, of course, the
album is for no reason at all as to is the title
track. Yes. And it sounds beautiful, obviously
they're going to be hearing that. Now, tell us
about some of the other tracks on there. So there's
20 tracks altogether, an incredible album. It's
almost, jokingly, but it's almost an anthology,
but not quite. So tell us about some of the other
tracks. Why have you actually specifically chosen
them for now? Well, I was very fine with Tony
Waddington. I used to go and do demos for him.
And he had a lot of success. He had a lot of
number one records. He wrote Sugar Baby Love
and all those sort of, you know, different songs.
And so I used to go, he had a little house in
Hampshire and he set up a little studio there.
So I used to go and record demos for him there.
And then he started and he and I started writing
a few songs together. And some of his other songs
were so nice. that I did the singing on, I did
his demos, and I liked the song. So I said, do
you mind if I hang on to this and one day I might
release it? He said, oh, yeah, yeah. And I said,
yeah, one day I might just do that. So I proved
him wrong. I have done that. And a couple of
songs on the album written by him, which is nice,
and a couple of written between him and myself.
So that's quite nice. So I helped him out and
I kept my word. That was important. That's brilliant.
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duet uh so yes but back back uh back with Tony
Burrows as it were because he was in the original
lineup of Brotherhood of Man as well uh Mount
Love a duet with Tony Burrows and Davy Jones
who we mentioned I see that you've got the duet
here with him with uh Your My Everything so that's
uh Your My Everything with Davy Jones and the
brother the original Brotherhood of Man are doing
the backings Wonderful. I wrote them in to do
all the backings for Davey. Whilst he was in
my house, I said, you need backings on this song.
So I called Tony Burrows. I got my sister together
myself. And then we went and we did all the backings
for Davey's song. He said, oh, I love it. I love
it. So it's like Davey Jones with the Brotherhood
of Man. Brilliant. Absolutely. Who'd have thought?
Does your sister still do anything at all? At
the moment, no, she's retired and she's writing
a lot. She wants to write. You see, we had such
a heavy time in the music business because we
were working flat out, ten to one, two to five,
seven to ten. For many years as well. And then
starting on the French songs in the evening,
like with Sarone and Roussos and people like
that. So we never stopped. And it got to a point
where we were living in each other's lives, you
know? Yeah, sure. Both realise this is too much
for us. We're living in each other's lives. So
she wanted to do her own thing and I wanted to
do my own thing. So that's what happened, you
know? No, I understand, I understand. I wasn't
technically fishing as such, but one thing is
that I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't ask
this question. And you probably asked it so many
times over the years, but there's bound to be
people at home wondering Would we ever hear anything
else perhaps from Sue and Sunny? Could there
ever be another project or is there any material
set around? We have a lot of material. Could
we perhaps see some of it released at some point?
Not sure. Okay, I won't do my job if I didn't
ask and I want to know. You guys were certainly
very good, not only in that line -up, but you're
just naturals. I think because we're sisters,
we blend, our voices blended very, very much.
And so once you've got the two in a triad, the
third girl could be either the top voice or the
bottom voice, but normally I did top, my sister
did middle, so we had that sound, and then whoever's
third voice would go on the bottom or top. Well
that's sort of like a little dream away then,
that's fine, but I'd have to ask that. I wouldn't
be doing my job if I didn't and I wanted to know
as I said. Let's talk about some of the other
tracks on this album Sue. Taking the title track
aside now because obviously that's getting a
lot of chat, a lot of radio play. Let's talk
about some of the others here, some of the other
solo tracks that you got here. What stands out
for you? Why have you chosen some of them? What
has particular meaning for you? I think the writers,
really, is a song that Roger Webb wrote, which
I think should be on the stage. I did the demo
for it, and he would decide... what song I would
sing when I'd turn up at 10 o 'clock in the morning
to do his demos. And so if I was rather quiet,
he'd give me like quieter barrows. And if I was
up, it would be jolly and happy, you know? So
he gave me this song, which I personally think
should be on, someone should record and put it
on the stage. It's just beautiful. It's called
Right To Be Wrong. That is a beautiful song.
Another song which was really nice was I think
the song that David Mendel, he was, David Mendel
was, he used to do a lot of, what's the word,
you know, for radio. It was always... Like the
jingle queen. He was like a jingle king. And
he used to write the most amazing sort of jingles.
And Bob Saker used to sing a lot of amazing jingles.
In fact, David Mindell used to get me and Bob
and Tony Burroughs and other people, Stephanie
DeSikes. We were all part singing the jingles.
And he asked me to do a duet with Bob Saker.
called We Have Survived. It's a really nice song
that he wrote. He fell off the chair when I said
I wanted to put it on my album. He said, I can't
believe it. I said, yeah, I've always liked it.
So that was nice. How long ago was it when you
last brought material out, Sue? I don't know.
74 something, I don't know. I haven't got a clue.
Was it something that, because you've obviously
had this material sat around, and I dare say,
you know, it was very, really probably knocked
you for six because it probably hurt you quite
a lot when the Universal took over and that decision
was made to shelve and it probably did knock
the wind out of you, I expect. So, did you always
intend, say, from that era onwards, did you always
intend to bring this material out, or was it
just something... that you thought on in more
recent years. I've got this beautiful material
I really want to share it with people. Is it
something more recent or what is the intention?
No, it was more recent because I felt right.
I don't want to be out of the music business
because I love the music business regardless.
But don't forget we spent many years touring
as well. We joined the James Last Orchestra and
we toured the world with him for 12 years. 12
years of our life we were touring with James
Glass and bringing out the non -stop dancing
albums all of which went to gold you know so
we had a lovely life there as well then we come
back to England and do sessions or tv shows like
with Ross Abbott or Silla Black or you know that's
what our work was you know we never stopped working.
No matter where we were, we'd come back to England
and carry on what we were doing here. You mentioned
that Sonny was writing. Now, how about you? What
about you? That's a wonderful career, wonderful
life. So what about an autobiography or something
like that? Something about your story? Because
it's an incredible story. Well, you never say
never. You know, the thoughts are there. You
put it in my mind just now, so that's what you
say. That could be our next chat, you see. Blame
yourself then for that. Wonderful interview,
asking you for a few stories and things like
that. We could be here all day talking about
anecdotes and things from your career and your
life. It'd be amazing. Hopefully we'll see it
soon because it'd be an incredible story. It
really would. But I'm not going to leave it just
there quite yet because I mean there's a whole
20 songs we could talk about each so you know
it's just just incredible stuff there so maybe
another chat another time perhaps we'll have
a chat about how well it's doing and things like
that. Or maybe I can bring out a deluxe edition
with a few bonus tracks or something maybe that
would be what it would be. Or you're going to
bring it out on vinyl or something's going to
happen. I think if it did well Nick I think if
it did really well it would come out on vinyl.
That'd be wonderful, wouldn't it? You know what
I mean? So, let's wait and see what happens.
Yes. Now, I know this is only just coming out,
but I have to ask, what's next for Sue Glover?
Is there more material sitting there that sells
well? Do you know what your next move is yet,
or are you just going to sit back and see? No,
I haven't even thought about it, because this
was such a whirlwind for me. You know, I put
a few tracks down, remastered them. Then this
record company, Glenn from 7A Records heard it
and he said, I love it. I really love what you've
done. And I said, oh, wow. And he said, I'd like
to put it out. And he's been marvelous, actually.
I've been very, very happy with this record company
and his record company. He drives it. He drives
everything in there, which is lovely. He even
made a video to surprise me with it. And I didn't
even know there was a video being made. He just
made this lovely video which really surprised
me. It was beautiful. Oh, for no reason at all.
I've seen it on YouTube. And if you haven't read
them yet, do read the comments. There's some
wonderful comments that people are leaving there
about it. So do take a look. But yeah, just read
the comments underneath. And I was reading them
the other day and thought, oh, that's delightful.
And there's a gentleman there who's been waiting,
you know, been looking forward to the release
as well for so many years. And I think it's so
wonderful. And it's not actually the gentleman,
I'm sure it's not the gentleman that contacted
me. So even more wonderful, you've had a lot
of people aware that this was going to come out
to your fans at the time. Oh, isn't that nice
as well? So there you go. Oh, thank you. Well,
I've done something right then, have no, Nick.
I'm sure you've never done it too long. We will
sit back and wait for your next move when you
know what it is and it'd be nice to have another
chat. It's been great meeting you at last. I
mean I've been aware of you all this time and
you said you'd heard my name so being aware of
each other it's just that our paths haven't managed
to cross until now. What's it like, though, to
have people such as myself and on the radio stations
and shows, what's it like, say, in 2026, people
having interest and wanting to interview? What's
it feel like? Is it surreal? Did you ever think
it was going to happen? No, I feel very humble,
actually. Oh, bless you. Bless you. I feel very
humble that you want to talk to me about it and
you want to play it. I mean, that, to me, is
wonderful. Thank you. Well, at the end of the
day, it's a great career. You had those hits.
But it's not only about that. It's the point
is you're doing something new. This is the next
chapter in your career, in your life. So it is
an exciting time for us as well. If you see it
from that point of view, we got somebody who's
having hits in 1970 and bringing stuff out there,
had that wonderful career after that, but also
bringing something new out for us to talk about.
That's a fantastic chapter. It's good for us.
It's a great interview for us though. It's good
all around. All I can say is thank you very,
very much. It's a pleasure. Thank you. As I say,
it's great meeting you. Is there any social media?
Do you have social media where people could take
a look and find out more about you? I know Sue
and Sunny have got a Wikipedia entry. There's
a bit about you guys on there. But is there social
media at all? No, I think that that has been
controlled by 7A Records. There was a lot of...
Lots of social media things, you know, but don't
forget, I'm very old fashioned and I'm not today's
how they do it today because it's always surprised
to me because I'm so old fashioned. Everything
in my mind is like what I did in the 70s and
80s. You know, so it's all new. This is a whole
new way of releasing records. I've never heard
of platforms before, you know, and all of a sudden
everything's on a platform. I mean it's bizarre,
but anyway it's great, it's exciting. We have
to move on, don't we? Yes, and people like you
and I, you can chat to presenters such as myself
from the comfort of your own home. I can do the
comfort of my own. Who thought that, I mean,
that would have been, you would have been on
the road two, three weeks going round and round
the country to various radio stations. I've done
that before, actually. I did that before. It
was my day they were doing it. You know, that's
what had to be done. Yeah, seriously. But some
of the social media I'm into, but some of it...
TikTok are things I should never be into. That's
too young for... No, some of it's absolutely
beyond me anyway, so don't worry about it. So
we have the single, For No Reason At All, also
the title track of your beautiful album, and
released on 7A Records. Sue Glover, we wish you
every success with that. And thank you so much
for coming on Chatterbox. No, no. Thank you,
Nick, for having me here. Thank you. I have appreciated
it. I've enjoyed every minute of it, actually.
Likewise. Likewise. Let's hope we can do it again
sometime. All right. That'd be lovely. Thank
you. Keep thinking about that book, anyway. You're
still going on about the book, are you? Oh, I
will do. I will do. Next time. It's just been
so fantastic. So fantastic. Anyway, you take
care. Every success with the album and... all
the other interviews that you have and let's
hope many more interviews come by. Thank you.
Let's see you in that top 100 of the album charts.
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