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This edition of the Chatterbox Redux podcast

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is brought to you in association with the Old

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from them in a bit. Chatterbox. When the stars

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talk, they talk to Nick and Sue. Welcome back

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to the Chatterbox Redux podcast with Sue and

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Nick and today our special guest is Andy Kiriakou

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of Modern Romance. This is Nick and Sue with

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Chatterbox giving you all you need to know about

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musical entertainment. Oh yeah! Chatterbox! And

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now we say hello to Andy Kiriakou, the lead singer

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of Modern Romance. Well, Andy, you've had a pretty

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long music career, really. Did you come from

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a musical family or how did you start getting

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into singing and music? You know, there's actually,

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other than a cousin in Cyprus, two brothers,

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cousins who were in a band in Cyprus, there's

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no actual musical connection in my genes, so

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to speak. I was the first one. And that just

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came about purely from the love of music. I love

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music. Music became everything. I wanted to listen

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to music and it accompanied me whenever I could

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have it on. But I never had aspirations of being

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a musician at all. Although when I think back

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to when I was a kid, we used to go to, with my

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parents, we used to go to a lot of Greek weddings.

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And Greek weddings always had a live band, always.

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It might be like a three -piece Rubber Kills

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band. Never had a band. And I remember as a kid,

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for some reason always going to the front of

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the stage and sitting down and looking at the

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drums. I just remember that. But then what happened

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is a friend of mine at school when I was about

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14, 15, came in one day and said, oh, I brought

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myself a drum kit. In the old days, he used to

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be in the boys' brigade, playing the snare drum

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and stuff. The boys did the drum kit. So I was

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like, totally didn't think, oh really? Big deal.

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I'll see it when I come round. So I was round

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his house three or four times a week after school,

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I'd go round. And this kit was there, and I looked

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at it, and yeah, it was a drum kit. But I sat

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behind it at one point, and he gave me the drum

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kit, drum stick, so I just clapped there and

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just went, literally flailed around like a flippin'

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octopus, doesn't know what he's doing. I just

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hit the thing, I was left right and sent that.

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And something clicked at that second. I don't

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know what it was, but when I walked away from

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his house that night, I was looking round and

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I thought, I need to bang on things. I really

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enjoyed that. So the next day I went to a local

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shop and I bought some drumsticks. I thought

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I could afford, I'm a kid at school, drumsticks.

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And then went home, and I don't know if any listeners

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will remember this, but you used to be able to

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get a little flat unit, looks like a heater.

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What we have now on the floor is a little floor

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heater. and you'd plug a hose into it and you'd

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put a hat thing on and it would dry your hair,

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it would air dry, I think. You sat on the side,

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yeah? My mum had one of those, in a box. So I

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took the box. and that became my drum kit and

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I started bashing the doubt in it and of course

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after a couple of days it was torn to shreds

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because you're hitting it with these drumsticks

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even though I had no idea what I was doing I'm

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still hitting this thing so I decided well I

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can't keep playing on boxes so I decided from

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that point I would drum on the bed and it became

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an obsession I would drum on the bed using the

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bed as my kit listening to different stuff, I'd

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listen to things like I'm allowed to say this

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because it's a musical thing I'd listen to the

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Glowy Glitter band because they had two drummers

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I really like that. And I'd listen to status

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quo. I was into status quo at the time. I'd just

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gotten into Deep Purple, so I'd listen to those

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sort of bands because they had serious drummers.

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Try and do what they were doing. Of course, no

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idea what I was doing myself. They're just trying

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to replicate, trying to do what I think they're

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doing to get that sound. Bear in mind, I'm playing

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on the bed, so I have no pedals. So this is all

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fine until eventually you get a truncate, your

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first truncate, and look down and go, oh, yeah,

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never took those into consideration. Now I've

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got to relearn how to play using those. Yeah,

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that was my musical background, really. That

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was it. There was no influence from anyone else.

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I mean, the guys in Cyprus, I never met them

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till I was my first. I mean, it might be coincidence.

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My first trip to Cyprus was when I was 14. Right,

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I can't remember. They were in a band and I saw

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them and I was like, oh wow, you know, and came

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back and shortly after that is when my friend

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bought his drum kit. I don't know if there was

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any correlation between the two, but that drum

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kit was like, I describe it many times. Playing

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that kit that day, it was like my first kiss

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there. It's like bang, something happened. He's

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like, wow, wow, you know, and that was it. I

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was in school. I guess I'm going to say we're

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looking mid -70s, is that about right, time -wise?

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Yeah, yeah. Did you ever think when when you're

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watching those people that you would actually

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be there one day or did you just want to be there?

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And I would be either imagining an audience watching

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this play, and I'd be like, oh, it would be good

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to be on Top of the Pops, but that's never going

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to happen. And I was just imagining audiences

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and stuff. And the funny thing is, Top of the

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Pops, I remember only a couple of months before

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we were on Top of the Pops. When I first met

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Modern Romance, a month into them, it was only

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two months later, two months after joining them,

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that we were on Top of the Pops. But in that

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interim period, and even just before I met them,

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I obviously watched Top of the Pops avidly. It

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was the show to watch. and I've seen friends

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appear on there. I've seen my friends that I

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was in a band with appear in a band called Lynx.

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The bass player from Sketch, I was in a band

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with him, and he appeared on there with Lynx.

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Then the other guys that weren't made with Sketch

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and went off and formed a different band, they

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were Central Line. They also were on Top of the

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Box. OK, got him. Yeah, I'm watching this band

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thinking, God, Father Spade is either one of

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those. Father Spade in the original band, which

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split it. I might have gone to that one or that

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one and then a couple of months later, I'm on

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top of a rock. Very strange. Yeah. Brilliant,

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mate. I love them. Modern romance were already

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formed just when you joined them. I believe the

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history you've told me is they came from a group

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called the Leighton Buzzards. Is that right?

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But by the time you met them, it was modern romance.

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And I think they had one record that was a flop.

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But how did you... Get to meet them and was it

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a gig or how did you actually end up being the

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drummer there? It was the club in London where

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Steve Strange was running it. Oh, I know, yeah,

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yeah, yeah. I know who you mean now. The band

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always would go there and Boy George and everyone

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was there, you know, mixing and all strange clothes

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and strange hair, you know. Whereas now we've

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got no hair, but there he goes. Anyway, so I

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decided to pop in there one night, because I

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was always clubbing. That was my thing. I didn't

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smoke, I didn't drink, I didn't do drugs. I was

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interested in going to clubs, dancing, and meeting

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people. That was my thing. One night, it just

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turned out that I said to a friend of mine, which

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we go to now, let's go to the Blitz. And I often

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think, I don't know if you ever saw that film,

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Sliding Doors, where it's got... different scenarios,

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if you'd have done this or if you'd have done

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that. And I can think, had I not gone out that

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night... How different my life would have been

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because that's the night I went out and the band

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had just finished. I missed them. There was a

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band called Modern Romance. And I thought, oh,

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and I chatted to somebody in the audience. I

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said, were they any good? And they said, yeah,

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they weren't bad. So I thought, I'll go and chat

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to them. I spoke to the then drummer and I said,

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listen, I'm a drummer as well. If you know anybody

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who's looking for a drummer, I'm in between gigs

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at the minute. And he said, give me your numbers

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and I'll see what I can do. And a few days later,

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I got a call saying, would you like to come and

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play percussion for us? congas timbales or whatever

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and i thought well it's not quite it's not quite

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being a drummer but having said that it's it's

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the next best thing and i thought i stand to

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reason i think let's just go and i said yeah

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okay it'll be fine so and then before that actually

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all happened and i went to see them and you know

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to have a chat and do these percussion gigs i've

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got a second phone call saying scrap the first

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phone call would you like to be a drummer Okay.

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And I thought, hang on a second, you don't know

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me, you don't know if I can play, what about

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your... So I said, look, Preston, I said, you've

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got a drummer. I spoke to him. Yeah. Because

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to be honest, we were going to get rid of him

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anyway, he just doesn't know. And I start asking

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someone to marry you via letter when you've never

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even met them. So I said, hello, my name's Preston,

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would you like to marry me? Yeah. I said, you

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don't know if I can play, you don't know anything

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about me. And they said, well no, apparently

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you used to play in this band, a band I used

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to play called Rocker G, who became quite a cult.

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sort of band, they had a cult follow -in and

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were very, quite well known on the London scene.

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And they said, if you were the drummer of Rocker

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G, what kind of guy from the band saw that band

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performing at Mung Bridge in London? And I said,

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I was the drummer. And they said, well, in that

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case, we know all the band can play, because

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you said they're great at band work, so if you

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were that drummer, you can play, you're in. And

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I said, well, what about the other guy? And they

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went, well, listen, if you don't take the gig,

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we're going to find someone else who does, but

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we don't actually want him in the band anymore.

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I mean, I'm not usually one to step on people's

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toes, but I thought. If they're going to give

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it to someone else anyway, I really should take

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this. So I had no choice but to. I said, OK,

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I'm taking it. And that was that. In the glorious,

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glorious surroundings of a rehearsal studio,

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underneath a railway arch is in Leighton. But

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I came here not knowing they had a record deal.

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So the fact that they've got one, there's neither

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here nor there. I didn't know they had two flop

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singles. So whatever, let's just get on with

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it. So we began rehearsals and things. And then

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they said, right, this is going to be our next

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song. And they said, it goes like this, blah,

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blah. and it turned out it was everybody sells

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that. I remember thinking at the time, bear in

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mind, the bands I played in before, and the Rocker

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G and the bands before that, some of them were

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jazz -funged bands, and they were very music

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-based in that there was not very much singing.

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There was with Rocker G, but it was very different

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singing. Rocker G was got across between ABC,

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Gary Newman, and loads of other stuff that was

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going on before they actually came out. That's

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why it's quite an innovative band, just turned

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out that way. So all of a sudden I'm in this

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band, and then... there'd been these chants like

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everybody else and I'm thinking, that's a bit

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poppy, you know? I'm used to playing like jazz

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fusion and stuff and serious funk, you know?

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Average right band and whatever, what's going

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on? But I thought, okay, well, this is what I

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think is a single, that's right, I'm the newest

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person in town and I'm there to play gums. So

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what happened, the funny thing is, it's really

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funny how things turn out because I've just joined

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this band, you know, literally just joined, doing

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rehearsals, and because I was such a... I was

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a heavy, that's the word I suppose, a heavy club

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-goer. I was constantly out clubbing. I've become

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friends with quite a few of the DJs. And remember,

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1980, 81, PAs were not really happening. There

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was someone to do a PA in a club, come and do

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a personal appearance and send to their record

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and all that stuff. So I went to this club in

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London, in Welshwick, with Ombres, where a friend

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of mine was a DJ. And I told him I'd just joined

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this band, blah, blah, blah. And I gave him a

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copy of the track and he went, this has got bad.

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He said, would you... You see they're doing a

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PA at the club. What's a PA? It's a meeting of

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style, a personal appearance. You play the track,

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you sing along to it, and then you just meet

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the audience and give out a few singles. It's

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you know? People come and say you're famous.

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for it. Why don't we sort of go in the middle

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ground and do a tour, a tour of PAs, where you

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We would do a PA in a club. It could be 1 ,000

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people. It could be 500. It could be 200. But

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we'd do a PA in a club in Wolverhampton. to say

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10 .30. Yeah. We've got on stage at 10 .30. Out

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of there by 11 .15, because we've done the performance,

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which is only a three minute thing. Then you

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spend half an hour meeting and greeting, signing

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stuff. Gotcha. And then by 11 o 'clock, 11 .30,

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you're at another club in Birmingham. or another

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one in Wolverhampton, whatever's in the range,

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and do a PA there, and then stay the night, and

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then the next day maybe go to Birmingham, do

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a couple there, the next day go to Leicester,

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and then go up and down, and we did that, and

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what happened, the by -product of this was that

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all the DJs at these clubs obviously had jobs

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as a radio DJ, many of them had radio DJ jobs

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during the day, on a provincial little station

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somewhere, Birmingham Radio, it could be a small

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radio station in Birmingham. But they would all

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go on their show and speak to their producers

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and say, they had this guy who was in a club

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last night playing this true, this great record.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, we play. We put it on the playlist.

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And he would go on the playlist. And gradually,

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he got on all the playlists of all these little

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provincial... things and the only people not

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playing it are the big two at the time, Capital

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Radio and Radio One. And they're the ones that

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really garnered all the listeners overall in

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the UK. So it came to the point where they had

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no option, the big ones, but to say, well no,

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this record's getting a lot of play in all these

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provincial stations. People are asking for us

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to play it, let's start playing it. Well of course

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as soon as they started to play it and the rest

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of the... The UK heard about it, not just people

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in towns that you visited. Then you start to

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climb up the charts and eventually it hit the

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top 40. And once that happened, we got our invitation

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to go on top of the pot. That's when you could

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have blown me down with a feather at that time.

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And that was within two months. Wow, that's quick

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moving. That is quick moving. Absolutely fantastic.

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Yes, the first hit there for Modern Romance.

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And that was, of course, Everybody Tells Her.

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Why do they choose the name Modern Romance? Lack

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of imagination. I'll tell you why. I'll tell

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you why. That's a great name. We know the story.

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I think it is a great name. But I say they chose

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that name because what happened is two members

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transitioned from Lay &amp; Buzz and left from a

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band called Modern Romance and decided to change

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the whole direction of the band going in. was

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a punk and they decided that's called Modern

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Romance and have more of that romantic, the new

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romantic sound to make it more electronic. So

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the first song was called Modern Romance and

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they'd written this song and said, right, they

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gave it to a record company and the record company

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said, yeah, that's fine, we love that. What's

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the name of the band? And they kind of looked

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at each other and went, uh, Modern Romance. So

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it was Modern Romance by Modern Romance. They

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hadn't thought that far ahead because they didn't

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think. anything would happen that quickly and

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there you go as i said lack of foresight but

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it turned out to be a good name i i love them

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though it's absolutely brilliant and looking

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at some of your chart positions you know in the

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80s was quite incredible but we do come up with

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a a certain song and see wants to ask you about

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that one what is i i i moosey about yeah I would

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say that it's nothing really meaningful about

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the starving children of the world. It's nothing

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meaningful as assholes, right? There's no meaning

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up there. The meaning behind it is actually quite...

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It's funny, right, basically, one of the guys

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in the band had a cousin who was a black cab

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driver. He drove a black cab, a black taxi in

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London, you know, the black cabs. And he said

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to... The guy's name was Michael. We used to

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call him Mickey. And his surname was Moss. That

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was Mickey Mouse. And he became Mickey Mouse.

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And then it got changed to Mickey Moose. And

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then it got changed to Moosey. That was it. And

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so he became known as Moosey for years. And then

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one day, this guy said to him, the guy in the

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band said to him, I'll bet you I can put your

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name in our next song. Because we've just had

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a hit with Everybody's House. And he said to

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him, I'll bet our next song I can put your name

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in it. And he was going to be a hit. And he goes,

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I do need to put my name in it. He said, oh,

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I could have your name Moosey in there. And he

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said, um, you're talking rubbish, mate. I can't

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put my name in it. Where does Moosey fit into

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the brown skin with things? Anyway, so he wrote

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this song, and it was I, I, I, Moosey. Um, and

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that's a bit, basically, it's a kind of a nod,

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if you like, a tip of the hat to Moosey used

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to be a black cab driver, pants and so, you know,

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millions of our kids, we used to see him all

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the time, great bloke. Um, and it's a little

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nod to him, and to show that you can sneak in

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a name in a pop song, and it'll still get there.

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Wow, brilliant. Now Andy, I must say the modern

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romance sound with you involved, we're still

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talking about when you were the drummer, now

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it's got a unique sound. There isn't anyone else

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in the 80s that sounds like that. It was a unique

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sound and a very good sound. Now... It isn't

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just basically the UK where you were massive.

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I'm now going to Asia. Now, I can't remember

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which country it was. You were massive in an

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Asian country. Which one was it, mate? Well,

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actually, we were actually massive in quite a

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few Asian countries that we were unaware of.

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This is the thing. We didn't know. For example,

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we were asked to do a commercial. Bear in mind,

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I don't drink. And I'm Greek. We're asked to

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do a commercial for Japanese whiskey. I thought,

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what? Excuse me? OK. It sounds like a Del Boy

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moment. Go on. Yeah, it's a Del Boy scene, isn't

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it? There. That's a number. A commercial for

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Japanese whiskey. Hang on. And where are we filming

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this commercial for Japanese whiskey? In LA.

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How the tour related is beyond me. But anyway.

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Having done this commercial, we decided that...

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The song we used for the commercial, we then

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wrote it as a single for the Japanese market.

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We'd originally written it as a single in itself.

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Changed the lyrics for the commercial, obviously,

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but it was released in Japan and we thought,

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OK, nothing's going to happen, whatever. And

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then we set up, well, the record company set

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up a Far East tour. OK. So we thought, OK, we'll

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go to the Far East, let them know what we can

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do, introduce our sound to them, see what they're...

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Say, this is what romance, how do you like it,

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you know, sort of thing. And we turn up at the

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airport, the very first street we go to, I think

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it was, we landed in Thailand first. So we landed

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in Thailand, landed in Bangkok, and obviously,

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because I failed to speak, I didn't know we were,

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you know, anyone who knew who the hell we were,

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but we had security come and collect us and take

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us through the VIP area, so we don't have to

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get checked and everything. And... And I said,

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well, she's all very nice, you know, arranging

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all these things. King of Thailand, yeah. Very

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good. Yeah, how lovely. And then we walked out

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to the main concourse, and it was just jam -packed

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with people. And I said, home, what's going on?

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I said, there's something important happening

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here, you know, why are all these people here?

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And I said, no, they're here for you. They're

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here for us. They said, no, they're here to see

00:22:24.329 --> 00:22:25.950
you. No, you're coming, they're here for you.

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And I said, why? I really, we all assumed it.

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No one knew who the hell he was. He said, oh,

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didn't you notice it? You're number one at the

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moment. Wow. Your single's number one. Oh, OK.

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And it started there. So that was in Thailand.

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Romance, obviously, they have their run of quite

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large number of hits and they split up, of course.

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Now, at some point, you've legally got the Modern

00:24:18.990 --> 00:24:21.049
Romance name. I mean, how did you get Modern

00:24:21.049 --> 00:24:23.130
Romance back together? And you obviously are

00:24:23.130 --> 00:24:25.869
the lead singer now. I mean, that's a big step.

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So, tell us about, we know about the split. Tell

00:24:28.769 --> 00:24:30.170
us about how you got back together, which is

00:24:30.170 --> 00:24:31.589
much more interesting because you're still together.

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Well, basically, I saw... In the early 2000s,

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I could see that there were a few gigs happening

00:24:39.349 --> 00:24:42.470
where people would put together, for example,

00:24:42.890 --> 00:24:45.289
Shalimar, Odyssey and Rolls Royce. They were

00:24:45.289 --> 00:24:50.930
an 80s soul thing. And I thought, these 80s things

00:24:50.930 --> 00:24:52.509
are really starting to take off. And I thought,

00:24:53.089 --> 00:24:55.549
we should really become part of this. So I contacted

00:24:55.549 --> 00:24:58.049
David James, who was the... founder member of

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the band and the person when I left carried it

00:25:00.849 --> 00:25:02.349
on obviously because it was his name, his band,

00:25:02.450 --> 00:25:04.509
he carried it on for a real while but it didn't

00:25:04.509 --> 00:25:06.470
do very well so they just kind of went up and

00:25:06.470 --> 00:25:08.329
fell by the wayside and he got into management

00:25:08.329 --> 00:25:11.210
and was more interested in that so he developed

00:25:11.210 --> 00:25:13.990
that side of things so I contacted him this is

00:25:13.990 --> 00:25:15.690
after quite a few years not seeing each other

00:25:15.690 --> 00:25:18.589
and we got together and it was uh and I've just

00:25:18.589 --> 00:25:21.109
suggested it and I said look this is what's happening

00:25:21.109 --> 00:25:22.730
on the music scene at the moment there's a kind

00:25:22.730 --> 00:25:25.430
of a retro thing happening where everyone's um

00:25:25.430 --> 00:25:28.299
you know to listen to what they listen to in

00:25:28.299 --> 00:25:30.119
their youth. You know, all the people that are

00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:32.640
45, 50, what they listen to, what they listen

00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:35.400
to when they're between 15 and 20, you know,

00:25:35.420 --> 00:25:38.220
when they were growing up. And I said, we could

00:25:38.220 --> 00:25:41.240
be part of that. But he was, because he was into

00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:43.940
the management thing, he said to me, I really,

00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:46.440
you know, I can't see myself going on stage again.

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He said, I think I'm just not that way inclined

00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:51.940
anymore. I'm into management. So he said, I'm

00:25:51.940 --> 00:25:54.319
not really into doing it. And he said, look,

00:25:54.460 --> 00:25:57.190
you're... as much a part of the band as anyone

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else has ever been he said um if you want to

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do it you've got my permission to actually take

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over the range and do it yourself get who you

00:26:06.349 --> 00:26:08.289
want to be in the band get whichever band members

00:26:08.289 --> 00:26:10.789
you still want to be in with you or rent it with

00:26:10.789 --> 00:26:13.069
other people whatever you want to do but and

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we signed we had a contract drawn up which we

00:26:16.650 --> 00:26:18.349
both signed and he said there you go we have

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the name off you go And if you ever need any

00:26:21.269 --> 00:26:23.289
help, I'll be here for you. And do you know what?

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It's funny, because I never saw him for years.

00:26:25.170 --> 00:26:27.609
And since that meeting, and with him saying to

00:26:27.609 --> 00:26:29.829
me, if you ever need anything, he has helped

00:26:29.829 --> 00:26:32.410
me a few times with a couple of bits. But we

00:26:32.410 --> 00:26:35.690
meet three times a year, and have a meal together,

00:26:35.690 --> 00:26:37.470
and a chat, and we're on the phone, and email

00:26:37.470 --> 00:26:40.349
each other. But we make a point of meeting three

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times a year. And the only reason we haven't

00:26:42.130 --> 00:26:45.250
met now, to start beginning years, obviously,

00:26:45.329 --> 00:26:46.670
is because of the pandemic. But we've already

00:26:46.670 --> 00:26:49.019
spoken and said. as soon as this is over we'll

00:26:49.019 --> 00:26:50.440
get together and have a meal and have a chat

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and yeah you know but yes uh it's fantastic for

00:26:53.180 --> 00:26:55.000
me it was a fantastic gesture from him because

00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:56.799
he didn't have to do it well that's amazing and

00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:59.480
of course uh you've re -recorded the uh modern

00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:01.460
romance classics i mean we all knew you were

00:27:01.460 --> 00:27:03.460
on there as a drummer but we've uh you've re

00:27:03.460 --> 00:27:06.079
-recorded them all which i played on some stations

00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:10.599
already and um yep uh you as lead singer yeah

00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:37.400
i used to do backing vocals in the band Got you.

00:27:41.940 --> 00:27:44.140
Sing that, no problem, be on the clear, I'm climbing

00:27:44.140 --> 00:27:47.500
singing, no problem. Ironically, pulling me out

00:27:47.500 --> 00:27:49.200
of the front and saying, sing me a romance song

00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:51.640
that comes second nature to you, you've known

00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:54.339
them all your life. Here's a mic, singing in

00:27:54.339 --> 00:27:57.019
front of these people without a donkey around

00:27:57.019 --> 00:27:59.180
you. Oh my god, this love singing without your

00:27:59.180 --> 00:28:01.759
clothes on. You're pretty damn good at it, I

00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:05.019
must say. Oh, thank you. Andy, please could you

00:28:05.019 --> 00:28:07.460
tell us about your book? Yes, my book, oh the

00:28:07.460 --> 00:28:09.480
book. The book at the moment is keeping me awake

00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:13.500
because I'm... Basically, it's a book based on

00:28:13.500 --> 00:28:15.980
my diaries I kept in the 80s. I'm describing

00:28:15.980 --> 00:28:19.119
now, just to give you an idea of one thing, straight

00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:22.500
away. The entry I did the other night was funny

00:28:22.500 --> 00:28:24.579
enough when we were in LA for that. Funny enough

00:28:24.579 --> 00:28:27.140
for that, um, Japanese commercial. Once we had

00:28:27.140 --> 00:28:28.980
all finished, I had a friend in LA who came to

00:28:28.980 --> 00:28:30.660
meet me and we went off and left the band for

00:28:30.660 --> 00:28:32.180
two, three days and we went off doing our own

00:28:32.180 --> 00:28:33.980
thing. But what the hotel we were staying in,

00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:36.059
which was a hotel called the Sunset Marquis,

00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:38.799
is very famous for musicians, always has been.

00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:40.680
Everyone who's everyone has stayed there at some

00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:43.019
point. And while we were there, I was told that

00:28:43.019 --> 00:28:44.940
Adamant and his crew were in town. Remember this

00:28:44.940 --> 00:28:47.900
is 1981, Adamant's Prime. This is 82, this is

00:28:47.900 --> 00:28:50.960
22. So it's still Adamant, still being the Adamant

00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:53.410
that we all know. And he's in America doing stuff.

00:28:53.589 --> 00:28:56.089
And I knew that one of the crew or somebody from

00:28:56.089 --> 00:28:58.569
his entourage was in the room next door. So I

00:28:58.569 --> 00:29:00.130
thought I'd go and knock and say hello and introduce

00:29:00.130 --> 00:29:02.369
myself. You know, who knows, might be a fan member.

00:29:02.569 --> 00:29:05.349
Turns out it was the manager. So I said, hello,

00:29:05.349 --> 00:29:06.829
I'm Andy from Modern Road, man. So I was like,

00:29:07.069 --> 00:29:08.650
hi, how you been? Come in, have a coffee, whatever.

00:29:09.309 --> 00:29:10.930
So we had a chat. And then I said, look, I'd

00:29:10.930 --> 00:29:13.109
love to come and see the show. So straight away,

00:29:13.170 --> 00:29:15.170
I was on the guest list to go and see Adamant

00:29:15.170 --> 00:29:18.890
in LA. in a couple of days' time. So, at the

00:29:18.890 --> 00:29:21.549
moment, I am, I'll tell you what I am, I am 15th

00:29:21.549 --> 00:29:25.809
of July, 1983. I'm driving 81, but I've still

00:29:25.809 --> 00:29:29.549
got a golden way to the end of 85. So I've got

00:29:29.549 --> 00:29:32.480
my work out for me, but I still have... publisher

00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:36.279
who wants it in New York, expanding on the entries

00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:39.539
in the diary. Brilliant. Sue's got, well what

00:29:39.539 --> 00:29:43.119
it is, you told us in an email that we feel free

00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:46.559
to ask anything. I will gladly discuss my fetish

00:29:46.559 --> 00:29:49.500
for girls dressed as tomatoes. Tell us about

00:29:49.500 --> 00:29:54.700
that. Sue's got one for you. What's your one

00:29:54.700 --> 00:29:58.180
Sue? Something about plastic tablecloth designs.

00:30:01.500 --> 00:30:04.680
Andy, you got this new album, well album came

00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:06.819
out just before Christmas sort of thing, end

00:30:06.819 --> 00:30:09.740
of last year. Tell us about that and what's your

00:30:09.740 --> 00:30:12.759
favourite track on that? Right, well the album

00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:15.559
is basically all the original Modern Romance

00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:17.599
hits have been re -recorded, you know, using

00:30:17.599 --> 00:30:20.240
obviously new sounds, new methods, being more

00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:23.440
modern. And there are also six new songs on there.

00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:26.039
So six new Modern Romance compositions all in

00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:28.980
the same vein. There's one ballad... and the

00:30:28.980 --> 00:30:31.480
other five are very Latin -y, but even the ballad's

00:30:31.480 --> 00:30:33.259
got a lot of flamenco guitar going through, so

00:30:33.259 --> 00:30:36.000
it's still tied in with, you know, very Spanishy

00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:37.960
guitar going on. It's still tied in with all

00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:40.960
the Latin feel. It's called The Greatest Hits,

00:30:41.059 --> 00:30:43.259
because it does feature Our Greatest Hit, but

00:30:43.259 --> 00:30:46.180
also we've got six new tracks as well. And I've

00:30:46.180 --> 00:30:48.900
got musicians on there ranging from, I've got,

00:30:48.900 --> 00:30:51.180
on two tracks, I've got Mikey Craig from Culture

00:30:51.180 --> 00:30:54.059
Club playing bass, I've got a trumpet player

00:30:54.059 --> 00:30:55.819
that played with Jamiroquai playing some of the

00:30:55.819 --> 00:31:07.250
trumpets on there. If you could pick any song

00:31:07.250 --> 00:31:10.470
out of that latest we call it modern romance

00:31:10.470 --> 00:31:12.609
album if you could pick any song out of it which

00:31:12.609 --> 00:31:19.910
one would it be? I'd love to hear that with a

00:31:19.910 --> 00:31:21.950
bit of a trumpet going. Does it come with the

00:31:21.950 --> 00:31:29.539
dance moves? everything that I'm about and that

00:31:29.539 --> 00:31:32.099
my romance are about I would say probably rhythm

00:31:32.099 --> 00:31:36.980
is my lover because rhythm is ostensibly what

00:31:36.980 --> 00:31:39.019
started it all this thing, playing drums and

00:31:39.019 --> 00:31:43.619
everything and it is music, I love it and this

00:31:43.619 --> 00:31:46.160
song actually says that music is everything and

00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:48.539
yes for me it probably is, apart from my kids,

00:31:48.779 --> 00:31:53.450
music is everything And indeed, that is one amazing

00:31:53.450 --> 00:31:58.529
song anyway. Andy, please tell us about any websites.

00:31:58.650 --> 00:32:01.390
You've got a website. Tell us about that. Facebook

00:32:01.390 --> 00:32:04.150
pages, everything. Well, I went on a good one.

00:32:04.329 --> 00:32:11.250
Oh, you mean my one. Sorry. Our website is www

00:32:11.250 --> 00:32:15.690
.modernhydrenromance .com. Just have a new website

00:32:15.690 --> 00:32:18.140
built for it, so if you type that in... and then

00:32:18.140 --> 00:32:20.259
click and the link to it takes you straight to

00:32:20.259 --> 00:32:22.839
the new one until we cross them over properly.

00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:25.460
Sure. First you go to there and it will say click

00:32:25.460 --> 00:32:26.819
here for the new website, you're going to the

00:32:26.819 --> 00:32:31.579
new one. Feel free, anyone who's listening, contact

00:32:31.579 --> 00:32:34.019
me on Facebook, come and say hello. I love people

00:32:34.019 --> 00:32:36.599
just writing in and saying come and say hello.

00:32:37.259 --> 00:32:39.539
whatever just kind of say hi and introduce yourself

00:32:39.539 --> 00:32:41.940
and tell me who you are you know and i can actually

00:32:41.940 --> 00:32:45.119
confirm that you are very uh very approachable

00:32:45.119 --> 00:32:49.480
uh and uh if someone finds andy kiriaku on facebook

00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:52.259
that is really you that's answering so uh you

00:32:52.259 --> 00:32:55.400
know hats off to you mate well done um andy we

00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:57.599
are going to play out with uh the song you selected

00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:00.240
and uh thank you very much mate and that your

00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:03.660
album is available from uh all the usual places

00:33:03.660 --> 00:33:11.259
for download Okay, brilliant mate. Keep me updated

00:33:11.259 --> 00:33:14.140
Andy and you are welcome to come back and update

00:33:14.140 --> 00:33:16.279
us anytime you like and I mean it, just drop

00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:18.259
me an email mate, yeah? Thank you very much for

00:33:18.259 --> 00:33:41.880
coming on Chatterbox, thank you mate. You have

00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:44.339
been listening to the Chatterbox Redux podcast

00:33:44.339 --> 00:33:47.200
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00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:51.160
was Andy Kiriakou of Modern Romance. If you're

00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:53.640
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