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Nick and today our special guest is Andy Kiriakou
of Modern Romance. This is Nick and Sue with
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musical entertainment. Oh yeah! Chatterbox! And
now we say hello to Andy Kiriakou, the lead singer
of Modern Romance. Well, Andy, you've had a pretty
long music career, really. Did you come from
a musical family or how did you start getting
into singing and music? You know, there's actually,
other than a cousin in Cyprus, two brothers,
cousins who were in a band in Cyprus, there's
no actual musical connection in my genes, so
to speak. I was the first one. And that just
came about purely from the love of music. I love
music. Music became everything. I wanted to listen
to music and it accompanied me whenever I could
have it on. But I never had aspirations of being
a musician at all. Although when I think back
to when I was a kid, we used to go to, with my
parents, we used to go to a lot of Greek weddings.
And Greek weddings always had a live band, always.
It might be like a three -piece Rubber Kills
band. Never had a band. And I remember as a kid,
for some reason always going to the front of
the stage and sitting down and looking at the
drums. I just remember that. But then what happened
is a friend of mine at school when I was about
14, 15, came in one day and said, oh, I brought
myself a drum kit. In the old days, he used to
be in the boys' brigade, playing the snare drum
and stuff. The boys did the drum kit. So I was
like, totally didn't think, oh really? Big deal.
I'll see it when I come round. So I was round
his house three or four times a week after school,
I'd go round. And this kit was there, and I looked
at it, and yeah, it was a drum kit. But I sat
behind it at one point, and he gave me the drum
kit, drum stick, so I just clapped there and
just went, literally flailed around like a flippin'
octopus, doesn't know what he's doing. I just
hit the thing, I was left right and sent that.
And something clicked at that second. I don't
know what it was, but when I walked away from
his house that night, I was looking round and
I thought, I need to bang on things. I really
enjoyed that. So the next day I went to a local
shop and I bought some drumsticks. I thought
I could afford, I'm a kid at school, drumsticks.
And then went home, and I don't know if any listeners
will remember this, but you used to be able to
get a little flat unit, looks like a heater.
What we have now on the floor is a little floor
heater. and you'd plug a hose into it and you'd
put a hat thing on and it would dry your hair,
it would air dry, I think. You sat on the side,
yeah? My mum had one of those, in a box. So I
took the box. and that became my drum kit and
I started bashing the doubt in it and of course
after a couple of days it was torn to shreds
because you're hitting it with these drumsticks
even though I had no idea what I was doing I'm
still hitting this thing so I decided well I
can't keep playing on boxes so I decided from
that point I would drum on the bed and it became
an obsession I would drum on the bed using the
bed as my kit listening to different stuff, I'd
listen to things like I'm allowed to say this
because it's a musical thing I'd listen to the
Glowy Glitter band because they had two drummers
I really like that. And I'd listen to status
quo. I was into status quo at the time. I'd just
gotten into Deep Purple, so I'd listen to those
sort of bands because they had serious drummers.
Try and do what they were doing. Of course, no
idea what I was doing myself. They're just trying
to replicate, trying to do what I think they're
doing to get that sound. Bear in mind, I'm playing
on the bed, so I have no pedals. So this is all
fine until eventually you get a truncate, your
first truncate, and look down and go, oh, yeah,
never took those into consideration. Now I've
got to relearn how to play using those. Yeah,
that was my musical background, really. That
was it. There was no influence from anyone else.
I mean, the guys in Cyprus, I never met them
till I was my first. I mean, it might be coincidence.
My first trip to Cyprus was when I was 14. Right,
I can't remember. They were in a band and I saw
them and I was like, oh wow, you know, and came
back and shortly after that is when my friend
bought his drum kit. I don't know if there was
any correlation between the two, but that drum
kit was like, I describe it many times. Playing
that kit that day, it was like my first kiss
there. It's like bang, something happened. He's
like, wow, wow, you know, and that was it. I
was in school. I guess I'm going to say we're
looking mid -70s, is that about right, time -wise?
Yeah, yeah. Did you ever think when when you're
watching those people that you would actually
be there one day or did you just want to be there?
And I would be either imagining an audience watching
this play, and I'd be like, oh, it would be good
to be on Top of the Pops, but that's never going
to happen. And I was just imagining audiences
and stuff. And the funny thing is, Top of the
Pops, I remember only a couple of months before
we were on Top of the Pops. When I first met
Modern Romance, a month into them, it was only
two months later, two months after joining them,
that we were on Top of the Pops. But in that
interim period, and even just before I met them,
I obviously watched Top of the Pops avidly. It
was the show to watch. and I've seen friends
appear on there. I've seen my friends that I
was in a band with appear in a band called Lynx.
The bass player from Sketch, I was in a band
with him, and he appeared on there with Lynx.
Then the other guys that weren't made with Sketch
and went off and formed a different band, they
were Central Line. They also were on Top of the
Box. OK, got him. Yeah, I'm watching this band
thinking, God, Father Spade is either one of
those. Father Spade in the original band, which
split it. I might have gone to that one or that
one and then a couple of months later, I'm on
top of a rock. Very strange. Yeah. Brilliant,
mate. I love them. Modern romance were already
formed just when you joined them. I believe the
history you've told me is they came from a group
called the Leighton Buzzards. Is that right?
But by the time you met them, it was modern romance.
And I think they had one record that was a flop.
But how did you... Get to meet them and was it
a gig or how did you actually end up being the
drummer there? It was the club in London where
Steve Strange was running it. Oh, I know, yeah,
yeah, yeah. I know who you mean now. The band
always would go there and Boy George and everyone
was there, you know, mixing and all strange clothes
and strange hair, you know. Whereas now we've
got no hair, but there he goes. Anyway, so I
decided to pop in there one night, because I
was always clubbing. That was my thing. I didn't
smoke, I didn't drink, I didn't do drugs. I was
interested in going to clubs, dancing, and meeting
people. That was my thing. One night, it just
turned out that I said to a friend of mine, which
we go to now, let's go to the Blitz. And I often
think, I don't know if you ever saw that film,
Sliding Doors, where it's got... different scenarios,
if you'd have done this or if you'd have done
that. And I can think, had I not gone out that
night... How different my life would have been
because that's the night I went out and the band
had just finished. I missed them. There was a
band called Modern Romance. And I thought, oh,
and I chatted to somebody in the audience. I
said, were they any good? And they said, yeah,
they weren't bad. So I thought, I'll go and chat
to them. I spoke to the then drummer and I said,
listen, I'm a drummer as well. If you know anybody
who's looking for a drummer, I'm in between gigs
at the minute. And he said, give me your numbers
and I'll see what I can do. And a few days later,
I got a call saying, would you like to come and
play percussion for us? congas timbales or whatever
and i thought well it's not quite it's not quite
being a drummer but having said that it's it's
the next best thing and i thought i stand to
reason i think let's just go and i said yeah
okay it'll be fine so and then before that actually
all happened and i went to see them and you know
to have a chat and do these percussion gigs i've
got a second phone call saying scrap the first
phone call would you like to be a drummer Okay.
And I thought, hang on a second, you don't know
me, you don't know if I can play, what about
your... So I said, look, Preston, I said, you've
got a drummer. I spoke to him. Yeah. Because
to be honest, we were going to get rid of him
anyway, he just doesn't know. And I start asking
someone to marry you via letter when you've never
even met them. So I said, hello, my name's Preston,
would you like to marry me? Yeah. I said, you
don't know if I can play, you don't know anything
about me. And they said, well no, apparently
you used to play in this band, a band I used
to play called Rocker G, who became quite a cult.
sort of band, they had a cult follow -in and
were very, quite well known on the London scene.
And they said, if you were the drummer of Rocker
G, what kind of guy from the band saw that band
performing at Mung Bridge in London? And I said,
I was the drummer. And they said, well, in that
case, we know all the band can play, because
you said they're great at band work, so if you
were that drummer, you can play, you're in. And
I said, well, what about the other guy? And they
went, well, listen, if you don't take the gig,
we're going to find someone else who does, but
we don't actually want him in the band anymore.
I mean, I'm not usually one to step on people's
toes, but I thought. If they're going to give
it to someone else anyway, I really should take
this. So I had no choice but to. I said, OK,
I'm taking it. And that was that. In the glorious,
glorious surroundings of a rehearsal studio,
underneath a railway arch is in Leighton. But
I came here not knowing they had a record deal.
So the fact that they've got one, there's neither
here nor there. I didn't know they had two flop
singles. So whatever, let's just get on with
it. So we began rehearsals and things. And then
they said, right, this is going to be our next
song. And they said, it goes like this, blah,
blah. and it turned out it was everybody sells
that. I remember thinking at the time, bear in
mind, the bands I played in before, and the Rocker
G and the bands before that, some of them were
jazz -funged bands, and they were very music
-based in that there was not very much singing.
There was with Rocker G, but it was very different
singing. Rocker G was got across between ABC,
Gary Newman, and loads of other stuff that was
going on before they actually came out. That's
why it's quite an innovative band, just turned
out that way. So all of a sudden I'm in this
band, and then... there'd been these chants like
everybody else and I'm thinking, that's a bit
poppy, you know? I'm used to playing like jazz
fusion and stuff and serious funk, you know?
Average right band and whatever, what's going
on? But I thought, okay, well, this is what I
think is a single, that's right, I'm the newest
person in town and I'm there to play gums. So
what happened, the funny thing is, it's really
funny how things turn out because I've just joined
this band, you know, literally just joined, doing
rehearsals, and because I was such a... I was
a heavy, that's the word I suppose, a heavy club
-goer. I was constantly out clubbing. I've become
friends with quite a few of the DJs. And remember,
1980, 81, PAs were not really happening. There
was someone to do a PA in a club, come and do
a personal appearance and send to their record
and all that stuff. So I went to this club in
London, in Welshwick, with Ombres, where a friend
of mine was a DJ. And I told him I'd just joined
this band, blah, blah, blah. And I gave him a
copy of the track and he went, this has got bad.
He said, would you... You see they're doing a
PA at the club. What's a PA? It's a meeting of
style, a personal appearance. You play the track,
you sing along to it, and then you just meet
the audience and give out a few singles. It's
just a way of promoting yourselves quickly to,
you know, two, three hundred people having an
earring here. The world gets about, and who knows?
Okay, fine. So I told the guys, they all agreed
to it, and we did it, and it was a fantastic
evening. Gave out some singles, whatever, and...
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Don't forget CBUKRDUX. SHUT A BOX! cycle thing,
you know? People come and say you're famous.
If you're famous, the local company will pay
for it. Why don't we sort of go in the middle
ground and do a tour, a tour of PAs, where you
just go from one club to the other doing PAs.
So what we ended up doing was we got a bus, first
order to go, and arranged accommodation, obviously.
And we would drive, for example, to Wolverhampton.
We would do a PA in a club. It could be 1 ,000
people. It could be 500. It could be 200. But
we'd do a PA in a club in Wolverhampton. to say
10 .30. Yeah. We've got on stage at 10 .30. Out
of there by 11 .15, because we've done the performance,
which is only a three minute thing. Then you
spend half an hour meeting and greeting, signing
stuff. Gotcha. And then by 11 o 'clock, 11 .30,
you're at another club in Birmingham. or another
one in Wolverhampton, whatever's in the range,
and do a PA there, and then stay the night, and
then the next day maybe go to Birmingham, do
a couple there, the next day go to Leicester,
and then go up and down, and we did that, and
what happened, the by -product of this was that
all the DJs at these clubs obviously had jobs
as a radio DJ, many of them had radio DJ jobs
during the day, on a provincial little station
somewhere, Birmingham Radio, it could be a small
radio station in Birmingham. But they would all
go on their show and speak to their producers
and say, they had this guy who was in a club
last night playing this true, this great record.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we play. We put it on the playlist.
And he would go on the playlist. And gradually,
he got on all the playlists of all these little
provincial... things and the only people not
playing it are the big two at the time, Capital
Radio and Radio One. And they're the ones that
really garnered all the listeners overall in
the UK. So it came to the point where they had
no option, the big ones, but to say, well no,
this record's getting a lot of play in all these
provincial stations. People are asking for us
to play it, let's start playing it. Well of course
as soon as they started to play it and the rest
of the... The UK heard about it, not just people
in towns that you visited. Then you start to
climb up the charts and eventually it hit the
top 40. And once that happened, we got our invitation
to go on top of the pot. That's when you could
have blown me down with a feather at that time.
And that was within two months. Wow, that's quick
moving. That is quick moving. Absolutely fantastic.
Yes, the first hit there for Modern Romance.
And that was, of course, Everybody Tells Her.
Why do they choose the name Modern Romance? Lack
of imagination. I'll tell you why. I'll tell
you why. That's a great name. We know the story.
I think it is a great name. But I say they chose
that name because what happened is two members
transitioned from Lay & Buzz and left from a
band called Modern Romance and decided to change
the whole direction of the band going in. was
a punk and they decided that's called Modern
Romance and have more of that romantic, the new
romantic sound to make it more electronic. So
the first song was called Modern Romance and
they'd written this song and said, right, they
gave it to a record company and the record company
said, yeah, that's fine, we love that. What's
the name of the band? And they kind of looked
at each other and went, uh, Modern Romance. So
it was Modern Romance by Modern Romance. They
hadn't thought that far ahead because they didn't
think. anything would happen that quickly and
there you go as i said lack of foresight but
it turned out to be a good name i i love them
though it's absolutely brilliant and looking
at some of your chart positions you know in the
80s was quite incredible but we do come up with
a a certain song and see wants to ask you about
that one what is i i i moosey about yeah I would
say that it's nothing really meaningful about
the starving children of the world. It's nothing
meaningful as assholes, right? There's no meaning
up there. The meaning behind it is actually quite...
It's funny, right, basically, one of the guys
in the band had a cousin who was a black cab
driver. He drove a black cab, a black taxi in
London, you know, the black cabs. And he said
to... The guy's name was Michael. We used to
call him Mickey. And his surname was Moss. That
was Mickey Mouse. And he became Mickey Mouse.
And then it got changed to Mickey Moose. And
then it got changed to Moosey. That was it. And
so he became known as Moosey for years. And then
one day, this guy said to him, the guy in the
band said to him, I'll bet you I can put your
name in our next song. Because we've just had
a hit with Everybody's House. And he said to
him, I'll bet our next song I can put your name
in it. And he was going to be a hit. And he goes,
I do need to put my name in it. He said, oh,
I could have your name Moosey in there. And he
said, um, you're talking rubbish, mate. I can't
put my name in it. Where does Moosey fit into
the brown skin with things? Anyway, so he wrote
this song, and it was I, I, I, Moosey. Um, and
that's a bit, basically, it's a kind of a nod,
if you like, a tip of the hat to Moosey used
to be a black cab driver, pants and so, you know,
millions of our kids, we used to see him all
the time, great bloke. Um, and it's a little
nod to him, and to show that you can sneak in
a name in a pop song, and it'll still get there.
Wow, brilliant. Now Andy, I must say the modern
romance sound with you involved, we're still
talking about when you were the drummer, now
it's got a unique sound. There isn't anyone else
in the 80s that sounds like that. It was a unique
sound and a very good sound. Now... It isn't
just basically the UK where you were massive.
I'm now going to Asia. Now, I can't remember
which country it was. You were massive in an
Asian country. Which one was it, mate? Well,
actually, we were actually massive in quite a
few Asian countries that we were unaware of.
This is the thing. We didn't know. For example,
we were asked to do a commercial. Bear in mind,
I don't drink. And I'm Greek. We're asked to
do a commercial for Japanese whiskey. I thought,
what? Excuse me? OK. It sounds like a Del Boy
moment. Go on. Yeah, it's a Del Boy scene, isn't
it? There. That's a number. A commercial for
Japanese whiskey. Hang on. And where are we filming
this commercial for Japanese whiskey? In LA.
How the tour related is beyond me. But anyway.
Having done this commercial, we decided that...
The song we used for the commercial, we then
wrote it as a single for the Japanese market.
We'd originally written it as a single in itself.
Changed the lyrics for the commercial, obviously,
but it was released in Japan and we thought,
OK, nothing's going to happen, whatever. And
then we set up, well, the record company set
up a Far East tour. OK. So we thought, OK, we'll
go to the Far East, let them know what we can
do, introduce our sound to them, see what they're...
Say, this is what romance, how do you like it,
you know, sort of thing. And we turn up at the
airport, the very first street we go to, I think
it was, we landed in Thailand first. So we landed
in Thailand, landed in Bangkok, and obviously,
because I failed to speak, I didn't know we were,
you know, anyone who knew who the hell we were,
but we had security come and collect us and take
us through the VIP area, so we don't have to
get checked and everything. And... And I said,
well, she's all very nice, you know, arranging
all these things. King of Thailand, yeah. Very
good. Yeah, how lovely. And then we walked out
to the main concourse, and it was just jam -packed
with people. And I said, home, what's going on?
I said, there's something important happening
here, you know, why are all these people here?
And I said, no, they're here for you. They're
here for us. They said, no, they're here to see
you. No, you're coming, they're here for you.
And I said, why? I really, we all assumed it.
No one knew who the hell he was. He said, oh,
didn't you notice it? You're number one at the
moment. Wow. Your single's number one. Oh, OK.
And it started there. So that was in Thailand.
And Japan was the same thing. Japan, huge, huge
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Romance, obviously, they have their run of quite
large number of hits and they split up, of course.
Now, at some point, you've legally got the Modern
Romance name. I mean, how did you get Modern
Romance back together? And you obviously are
the lead singer now. I mean, that's a big step.
So, tell us about, we know about the split. Tell
us about how you got back together, which is
much more interesting because you're still together.
Well, basically, I saw... In the early 2000s,
I could see that there were a few gigs happening
where people would put together, for example,
Shalimar, Odyssey and Rolls Royce. They were
an 80s soul thing. And I thought, these 80s things
are really starting to take off. And I thought,
we should really become part of this. So I contacted
David James, who was the... founder member of
the band and the person when I left carried it
on obviously because it was his name, his band,
he carried it on for a real while but it didn't
do very well so they just kind of went up and
fell by the wayside and he got into management
and was more interested in that so he developed
that side of things so I contacted him this is
after quite a few years not seeing each other
and we got together and it was uh and I've just
suggested it and I said look this is what's happening
on the music scene at the moment there's a kind
of a retro thing happening where everyone's um
you know to listen to what they listen to in
their youth. You know, all the people that are
45, 50, what they listen to, what they listen
to when they're between 15 and 20, you know,
when they were growing up. And I said, we could
be part of that. But he was, because he was into
the management thing, he said to me, I really,
you know, I can't see myself going on stage again.
He said, I think I'm just not that way inclined
anymore. I'm into management. So he said, I'm
not really into doing it. And he said, look,
you're... as much a part of the band as anyone
else has ever been he said um if you want to
do it you've got my permission to actually take
over the range and do it yourself get who you
want to be in the band get whichever band members
you still want to be in with you or rent it with
other people whatever you want to do but and
we signed we had a contract drawn up which we
both signed and he said there you go we have
the name off you go And if you ever need any
help, I'll be here for you. And do you know what?
It's funny, because I never saw him for years.
And since that meeting, and with him saying to
me, if you ever need anything, he has helped
me a few times with a couple of bits. But we
meet three times a year, and have a meal together,
and a chat, and we're on the phone, and email
each other. But we make a point of meeting three
times a year. And the only reason we haven't
met now, to start beginning years, obviously,
is because of the pandemic. But we've already
spoken and said. as soon as this is over we'll
get together and have a meal and have a chat
and yeah you know but yes uh it's fantastic for
me it was a fantastic gesture from him because
he didn't have to do it well that's amazing and
of course uh you've re -recorded the uh modern
romance classics i mean we all knew you were
on there as a drummer but we've uh you've re
-recorded them all which i played on some stations
already and um yep uh you as lead singer yeah
i used to do backing vocals in the band Got you.
Sing that, no problem, be on the clear, I'm climbing
singing, no problem. Ironically, pulling me out
of the front and saying, sing me a romance song
that comes second nature to you, you've known
them all your life. Here's a mic, singing in
front of these people without a donkey around
you. Oh my god, this love singing without your
clothes on. You're pretty damn good at it, I
must say. Oh, thank you. Andy, please could you
tell us about your book? Yes, my book, oh the
book. The book at the moment is keeping me awake
because I'm... Basically, it's a book based on
my diaries I kept in the 80s. I'm describing
now, just to give you an idea of one thing, straight
away. The entry I did the other night was funny
enough when we were in LA for that. Funny enough
for that, um, Japanese commercial. Once we had
all finished, I had a friend in LA who came to
meet me and we went off and left the band for
two, three days and we went off doing our own
thing. But what the hotel we were staying in,
which was a hotel called the Sunset Marquis,
is very famous for musicians, always has been.
Everyone who's everyone has stayed there at some
point. And while we were there, I was told that
Adamant and his crew were in town. Remember this
is 1981, Adamant's Prime. This is 82, this is
22. So it's still Adamant, still being the Adamant
that we all know. And he's in America doing stuff.
And I knew that one of the crew or somebody from
his entourage was in the room next door. So I
thought I'd go and knock and say hello and introduce
myself. You know, who knows, might be a fan member.
Turns out it was the manager. So I said, hello,
I'm Andy from Modern Road, man. So I was like,
hi, how you been? Come in, have a coffee, whatever.
So we had a chat. And then I said, look, I'd
love to come and see the show. So straight away,
I was on the guest list to go and see Adamant
in LA. in a couple of days' time. So, at the
moment, I am, I'll tell you what I am, I am 15th
of July, 1983. I'm driving 81, but I've still
got a golden way to the end of 85. So I've got
my work out for me, but I still have... publisher
who wants it in New York, expanding on the entries
in the diary. Brilliant. Sue's got, well what
it is, you told us in an email that we feel free
to ask anything. I will gladly discuss my fetish
for girls dressed as tomatoes. Tell us about
that. Sue's got one for you. What's your one
Sue? Something about plastic tablecloth designs.
Andy, you got this new album, well album came
out just before Christmas sort of thing, end
of last year. Tell us about that and what's your
favourite track on that? Right, well the album
is basically all the original Modern Romance
hits have been re -recorded, you know, using
obviously new sounds, new methods, being more
modern. And there are also six new songs on there.
So six new Modern Romance compositions all in
the same vein. There's one ballad... and the
other five are very Latin -y, but even the ballad's
got a lot of flamenco guitar going through, so
it's still tied in with, you know, very Spanishy
guitar going on. It's still tied in with all
the Latin feel. It's called The Greatest Hits,
because it does feature Our Greatest Hit, but
also we've got six new tracks as well. And I've
got musicians on there ranging from, I've got,
on two tracks, I've got Mikey Craig from Culture
Club playing bass, I've got a trumpet player
that played with Jamiroquai playing some of the
trumpets on there. If you could pick any song
out of that latest we call it modern romance
album if you could pick any song out of it which
one would it be? I'd love to hear that with a
bit of a trumpet going. Does it come with the
dance moves? everything that I'm about and that
my romance are about I would say probably rhythm
is my lover because rhythm is ostensibly what
started it all this thing, playing drums and
everything and it is music, I love it and this
song actually says that music is everything and
yes for me it probably is, apart from my kids,
music is everything And indeed, that is one amazing
song anyway. Andy, please tell us about any websites.
You've got a website. Tell us about that. Facebook
pages, everything. Well, I went on a good one.
Oh, you mean my one. Sorry. Our website is www
.modernhydrenromance .com. Just have a new website
built for it, so if you type that in... and then
click and the link to it takes you straight to
the new one until we cross them over properly.
Sure. First you go to there and it will say click
here for the new website, you're going to the
new one. Feel free, anyone who's listening, contact
me on Facebook, come and say hello. I love people
just writing in and saying come and say hello.
whatever just kind of say hi and introduce yourself
and tell me who you are you know and i can actually
confirm that you are very uh very approachable
uh and uh if someone finds andy kiriaku on facebook
that is really you that's answering so uh you
know hats off to you mate well done um andy we
are going to play out with uh the song you selected
and uh thank you very much mate and that your
album is available from uh all the usual places
for download Okay, brilliant mate. Keep me updated
Andy and you are welcome to come back and update
us anytime you like and I mean it, just drop
me an email mate, yeah? Thank you very much for
coming on Chatterbox, thank you mate. You have
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