WEBVTT 00:00:01.789 --> 00:00:04.290 This edition is brought to you in association 00:00:04.290 --> 00:00:07.509 with Distill Union for men's gifts, presents 00:00:07.509 --> 00:00:10.130 and problem -solving men's accessories. More 00:00:10.130 --> 00:00:41.719 from them in a bit. Welcome back to the Chatterbox 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:44.960 Redux podcast with Sir Nick and today our special 00:00:44.960 --> 00:00:47.960 guest is international superstar Stacey Jackson 00:01:10.249 --> 00:01:14.629 This is Nick and Sue with Chatterbox giving you 00:01:14.629 --> 00:01:43.900 all you need to know about music. Hi, I'm Stacey 00:01:43.900 --> 00:01:46.620 Jackson and I'm the host of Stacey Jackson in 00:01:46.620 --> 00:01:51.340 the 80s. Her approach to life reminds me of one 00:01:51.340 --> 00:01:54.140 of those motivational books I see sometimes buy 00:01:54.140 --> 00:01:58.859 in airports. Pop singer Stacey Jackson has rocked 00:01:58.859 --> 00:02:00.859 the charts in London and now she's ready to take 00:02:00.859 --> 00:02:03.280 the U .S. by storm. She's collaborated with some 00:02:03.280 --> 00:02:07.200 of the biggest names in the biz like Snoop Dogg. 00:02:39.969 --> 00:02:42.310 Stacey, guys, she's a singer -songwriter, we'll 00:02:42.310 --> 00:02:44.229 hit chat about that. She's an entrepreneur, she's 00:02:44.229 --> 00:02:47.810 a TV presenter. She's basically a workout expert. 00:02:48.229 --> 00:02:50.770 Mum of four, yeah, whatever, that's just so easy, 00:02:51.030 --> 00:02:54.330 doesn't it? And now a novelist as well. So Stacey, 00:02:54.550 --> 00:02:58.050 wow, where do we even start? Come on. Look, lockdown 00:02:58.050 --> 00:03:00.650 was productive for me. You know, I'm not a person 00:03:00.650 --> 00:03:08.610 that could just sit around. Actually, what I 00:03:08.610 --> 00:03:11.270 did do is I wrote a book, it's a fictionalized 00:03:11.270 --> 00:03:14.129 book about a woman who juggles basically being 00:03:14.129 --> 00:03:23.430 a mom and becoming a pop singer. What I've done 00:03:23.430 --> 00:03:25.370 and what I've been doing and of course the pinnacle 00:03:25.370 --> 00:03:27.729 of having worked with Snoop was sort of like, 00:03:28.050 --> 00:03:31.479 you know, I am happy. I'm doing what I love to 00:03:31.479 --> 00:03:33.900 do. I'm living the dream I've always wanted. 00:03:34.219 --> 00:03:38.159 I feel like I could never be a happy mom or a 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:40.580 great wife or great friend if I wasn't happy 00:03:40.580 --> 00:03:44.860 myself doing what I love to do. That's how he 00:03:44.860 --> 00:03:47.120 made me a better mom is that because he's made 00:03:47.120 --> 00:03:49.939 me realize that I can live my dream. Of course 00:03:49.939 --> 00:03:53.479 the time it took for me to get here has value, 00:03:53.979 --> 00:04:04.120 has a lot of value. And now in Chatterbox UK, 00:04:04.360 --> 00:04:06.219 we're just lucky enough to welcome back Stacey 00:04:06.219 --> 00:04:09.550 Jackson. Stacey, welcome back, how are you? I'm 00:04:09.550 --> 00:04:12.289 great. How are you? I'm absolutely I just got 00:04:12.289 --> 00:04:14.770 back from a lovely week away in the Bahamas. 00:04:14.810 --> 00:04:17.470 I'd never been there. And so I'm very relaxed. 00:04:18.250 --> 00:04:22.269 Very, very. I'm super eager to chat to you. And 00:04:22.269 --> 00:04:25.269 it's really nice to be back on the show. Oh, 00:04:25.269 --> 00:04:28.810 wonderful. And we went on a cruise some years 00:04:28.810 --> 00:04:32.550 ago now. But one of the places we stopped at 00:04:32.550 --> 00:04:36.790 was was the Bahamas with the Royal Caribbean, 00:04:36.810 --> 00:04:39.889 Caribbean. So, yeah, we We were in good company 00:04:39.889 --> 00:04:42.689 there. We absolutely enjoyed it. So I know what 00:04:42.689 --> 00:04:45.370 you're saying. Well, I have to tell you, like 00:04:45.370 --> 00:04:48.189 at this time of the year, it's like I crave sun. 00:04:48.779 --> 00:04:51.959 So it was quite nice to just be, you know, in 00:04:51.959 --> 00:04:54.259 a bathing suit and, you know, with your feet 00:04:54.259 --> 00:04:57.480 dangling in the water. I can't complain. It was 00:04:57.480 --> 00:05:00.100 really nice. The blue sea, the white sand, it's 00:05:00.100 --> 00:05:02.600 all there. Oh, exactly. And you know what? I 00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:05.600 just need like a minor little recharge, even 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:07.579 if it was just a few days or a week or whatever, 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:10.360 like that's it. And then I can come back completely 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:13.779 and fully engaged and focused. It's just it's 00:05:13.779 --> 00:05:17.600 amazing how a holiday does that to you. Oh, yes. 00:05:17.740 --> 00:05:21.160 Oh, yes. Okay, right when we spoke last time 00:05:21.160 --> 00:05:25.100 you were talking about an album on its way And 00:05:25.100 --> 00:05:27.180 that would be out within the next next year. 00:05:27.220 --> 00:05:30.319 So we're taking it back. It is within that year 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:34.300 and Great title and it's obviously named after 00:05:34.300 --> 00:05:36.600 one of the songs on the album, which we absolutely 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:39.339 love anyway Superwoman that's the name of the 00:05:39.339 --> 00:05:45.459 album And it's out now So I'm glad that reached 00:05:45.459 --> 00:05:48.399 fruition of that. So what I'd like to do, I'm 00:05:48.399 --> 00:05:50.439 going to take you through the album and you tell 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:53.120 us about the tracks on it and how we're going 00:05:53.120 --> 00:05:58.040 to do it. So we got a song called Both Ways. 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:01.180 Tell us about that one. Oh, I worked with an 00:06:01.180 --> 00:06:03.939 amazing producer on that record, Cy Helbert. 00:06:04.019 --> 00:06:07.680 He's worked with One Direction and I mean, he's 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:12.300 just incredible and so talented. And I wrote 00:06:12.300 --> 00:06:16.680 that one with him a while ago, actually. And 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:20.439 It was funny because I don't know if you know 00:06:20.439 --> 00:06:23.500 that I also have a book out called How a Gangster 00:06:23.500 --> 00:06:26.720 Rapper Made Me a Better Mom. And originally the 00:06:26.720 --> 00:06:31.560 book is coming out, hopefully I'll be on your 00:06:31.560 --> 00:06:34.800 show again in a few months, because the audio 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:36.879 version of the book is coming out with a full 00:06:36.879 --> 00:06:40.389 integrated soundtrack. and originally I wrote 00:06:40.389 --> 00:06:44.870 this song both ways to be on the soundtrack but 00:06:44.870 --> 00:06:49.290 I actually I deliberately wrote the song with 00:06:49.290 --> 00:06:54.569 a bit of an 80s vibe to it and when I put the 00:06:54.569 --> 00:06:57.509 album Superwoman together the whole album was 00:06:57.509 --> 00:07:01.769 inspired by sort of the 1980s and I revisited 00:07:01.769 --> 00:07:03.589 the record I wrote with Psy and I'm like you 00:07:03.589 --> 00:07:06.540 know what this will fit very well on this album. 00:07:06.980 --> 00:07:10.399 And because the theme and a lot of the messages 00:07:10.399 --> 00:07:14.399 in most of the tracks on the record is about 00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:17.439 never too late to live your dreams and being 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:21.740 able to be, like in my case, a mom and someone 00:07:21.740 --> 00:07:25.660 with a career. And I felt that the message in 00:07:25.660 --> 00:07:28.579 this particular record made... more sense to 00:07:28.579 --> 00:07:33.060 be on the album itself than to just be on the 00:07:33.060 --> 00:07:35.480 soundtrack. And by the way, I might also end 00:07:35.480 --> 00:07:38.220 up on the soundtrack anyway. But that was sort 00:07:38.220 --> 00:07:41.720 of the sort of story behind the song. And so 00:07:41.720 --> 00:07:44.819 it was inspired by the 80s, along with other 00:07:44.819 --> 00:07:48.259 songs on the album. And because the message is 00:07:48.259 --> 00:07:52.720 so... especially, I guess, empowering to women 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:56.699 who a lot of times feel like they have to juggle 00:07:56.699 --> 00:08:00.019 so many things between being a wife and a mother 00:08:00.019 --> 00:08:03.079 and somebody who works. And it's just a lot of 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:04.699 balls up in the air. So that's really the gist 00:08:04.699 --> 00:08:06.939 of the record. And it's one of my favorite songs 00:08:06.939 --> 00:08:10.079 on the album, too. So that's the story. I like 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:14.399 it. OK. Then we've got Closer to My Dreams. Again, 00:08:14.699 --> 00:08:18.160 another one that's inspired by the 80s. I wrote 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:20.949 this. with also an incredible producer called 00:08:20.949 --> 00:08:23.029 Michael Stockwell. And that was the first time 00:08:23.029 --> 00:08:25.970 I worked with him. And we came up with this record 00:08:25.970 --> 00:08:32.429 based on, again, having grown up as a Gen Xer 00:08:32.429 --> 00:08:37.830 in the 1980s, I was inspired by the sounds of 00:08:37.830 --> 00:08:42.389 that era. And so the story of this song is basically 00:08:42.389 --> 00:08:45.809 remembering what it was like. growing up in that 00:08:45.809 --> 00:08:50.909 time. And then how how we how that journey made 00:08:50.909 --> 00:08:55.490 you who you are today. So and I feel that that 00:08:55.490 --> 00:08:58.850 theme for me is very relevant. I did a show called 00:08:58.850 --> 00:09:03.210 Stacey Jackson in the 80s. I'm launching a new 00:09:03.210 --> 00:09:07.070 podcast called the gen experience. And so I think 00:09:07.070 --> 00:09:10.409 a lot of things that and you're probably around 00:09:10.730 --> 00:09:14.450 the same age as me growing up you know back then 00:09:14.450 --> 00:09:18.429 and then sort of how that journey of being a 00:09:18.429 --> 00:09:22.389 teenager in the 80s and you know kind of made 00:09:22.389 --> 00:09:26.250 you who you are or inspired you to make the choices 00:09:26.250 --> 00:09:29.389 that you made so that you could become you know 00:09:29.389 --> 00:09:33.250 you now and that's pretty much the gist of that 00:09:33.250 --> 00:09:39.190 song and um yeah And also, it's slightly different. 00:09:39.370 --> 00:09:41.429 It's a little slower than the rest of the songs 00:09:41.429 --> 00:09:44.590 on the album. But a lot of people feel that that's 00:09:44.590 --> 00:09:46.889 their favorite song on the record. So I think 00:09:46.889 --> 00:09:49.100 there's something for everyone. Great, no, I 00:09:49.100 --> 00:09:51.539 like that. And you mentioned the 80s a few times. 00:09:51.980 --> 00:09:54.700 And you are quite similar age to you. I catch 00:09:54.700 --> 00:09:56.980 up with you age -wise on Mondays, my birthday 00:09:56.980 --> 00:10:00.879 on Mondays. Oh, happy birthday. I'm only a few 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:03.159 weeks younger than you, but no, thank you very 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:06.539 much. Thank you. Yes, all good. Yeah. Well, so 00:10:06.539 --> 00:10:08.759 then you relate to me when I say that, like, 00:10:08.759 --> 00:10:12.059 you know, the gen experience and, you know, I 00:10:12.059 --> 00:10:16.590 really feel that, like, the 80s We're just I 00:10:16.590 --> 00:10:19.330 meant so much to me that particular era. I mean 00:10:19.330 --> 00:10:23.210 I met my husband in 1989, but like even even 00:10:23.210 --> 00:10:27.389 so like I just feel that my My teenage years 00:10:27.389 --> 00:10:30.090 and my biggest growth in trying to figure out 00:10:30.090 --> 00:10:33.929 who I wanted to become Was probably based on 00:10:33.929 --> 00:10:36.230 you know, what was going on at the time in the 00:10:36.230 --> 00:10:39.350 80s? And I think we are a very special generation. 00:10:39.350 --> 00:10:44.960 I really do I'm a big fan of the Gen X And when 00:10:44.960 --> 00:10:47.860 does the podcast actually start? When does it 00:10:47.860 --> 00:10:51.700 commence? It commences I think in the next couple 00:10:51.700 --> 00:10:54.639 of weeks. We're going to start popping out teasers. 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:57.360 We basically interview a bunch of different, 00:10:57.639 --> 00:11:00.419 very similar to your show, but we don't just 00:11:00.419 --> 00:11:03.360 stick with the music. It's basically people in 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:09.269 all... areas of, you know, culture, lifestyle, 00:11:09.850 --> 00:11:14.470 music, we have actors, producers, politicians, 00:11:15.830 --> 00:11:18.750 basically all walks of life and people who are 00:11:18.750 --> 00:11:21.370 successful in their own right, and how they are 00:11:21.370 --> 00:11:25.029 all, you know, from the 80s or have grown up 00:11:25.029 --> 00:11:28.970 in the 80s and what's changed. And again, what 00:11:28.970 --> 00:11:32.309 makes them who they are today or the choices 00:11:32.309 --> 00:11:34.730 that they made growing up in the 80s to determine 00:11:34.730 --> 00:11:37.509 where they would be. And some of them actually 00:11:37.509 --> 00:11:42.029 had repotted themselves later on in life because 00:11:42.029 --> 00:11:44.409 they realized that they weren't on the path that 00:11:44.409 --> 00:11:47.970 they wanted to be on originally. repotted themselves. 00:11:48.090 --> 00:11:50.490 And I think it's a great story. So yeah, I feel 00:11:50.490 --> 00:11:53.950 it's lovely to be able to chat to so many different 00:11:53.950 --> 00:11:56.230 people from different walks of life, not just 00:11:56.230 --> 00:12:00.190 in the music, and really get to know and get 00:12:00.190 --> 00:12:03.169 people to understand, you know, how the 80s really 00:12:03.169 --> 00:12:07.649 influenced so many people of our generation, 00:12:07.649 --> 00:12:11.490 I guess. And yeah, it's great. I'm excited. Sure, 00:12:11.610 --> 00:12:13.889 we're not just music ourselves. However, you 00:12:13.889 --> 00:12:15.789 do have a totally different twist on what we 00:12:15.789 --> 00:12:18.169 do because, you know, we will interview somebody 00:12:18.169 --> 00:12:20.269 that's brought a book out or something. Right, 00:12:20.330 --> 00:12:23.149 right. It doesn't just have to be music. when 00:12:23.149 --> 00:12:26.450 it comes to politics we don't actually uh appreciate 00:12:26.450 --> 00:12:30.009 you got a different stance on it but uh we would 00:12:30.009 --> 00:12:32.649 only have a politician on if like for instance 00:12:32.649 --> 00:12:35.090 we've got a very famous politician from uh now 00:12:35.090 --> 00:12:38.129 and well it's the opposition party but going 00:12:38.129 --> 00:12:41.029 back he was really big 20 30 years ago and he's 00:12:41.029 --> 00:12:44.269 done a lot of steam train programs for the bbc 00:12:44.269 --> 00:12:47.370 so he will come on and talk about the steam train 00:12:47.370 --> 00:12:50.129 programs but not the politics but see you've 00:12:50.129 --> 00:12:53.269 got a great twist on it so i like i like It is 00:12:53.269 --> 00:12:55.490 totally, it's almost refreshing. It's like a 00:12:55.490 --> 00:12:58.169 total new thing. I haven't quite heard that concept. 00:12:58.730 --> 00:13:01.169 So that thing does sound good, actually. So yeah, 00:13:01.210 --> 00:13:04.190 I'm excited. Thank you very much. Yeah. I mean, 00:13:04.190 --> 00:13:07.289 you know, it's quite fun because like the influence 00:13:07.289 --> 00:13:09.929 of that time was, you know, even like fashion, 00:13:10.009 --> 00:13:12.429 like just remember about the eighties, like all 00:13:12.429 --> 00:13:14.950 the chat, the transformations that came out of 00:13:14.950 --> 00:13:18.389 the 1980s and how music influenced fashion and 00:13:18.389 --> 00:13:22.690 how fashion influenced other decisions. And there 00:13:22.690 --> 00:13:26.169 was a lot of cultural connections back in the 00:13:26.169 --> 00:13:28.950 80s that people can go back to and go, wow, think 00:13:28.950 --> 00:13:34.409 about how inspiring different life. sort of choices 00:13:34.409 --> 00:13:37.789 were and you know where we were back then and 00:13:37.789 --> 00:13:40.629 now where we are today. I don't know. I'm really 00:13:40.629 --> 00:13:44.070 enjoying it now obviously like you talking to 00:13:44.070 --> 00:13:46.090 different people from different walks of life. 00:13:46.509 --> 00:13:50.210 I find it very inspiring and you know every day 00:13:50.210 --> 00:13:54.429 I learn something new and it's great. It's great. 00:13:54.789 --> 00:13:58.990 Anyways back to my album. We went off. I was 00:13:58.990 --> 00:14:02.230 just thinking about the 80s hairstyle and the 00:14:02.230 --> 00:14:04.240 clothes. That's also amazing, wasn't it? It's 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:06.200 just like, great. It was great. Yeah, really 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:09.200 great. And it's so relevant today. I mean, like, 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:11.620 there's, I have to say, like, I guess through 00:14:11.620 --> 00:14:15.059 TikTok and, you know, Instagram, and being able 00:14:15.059 --> 00:14:19.080 to read Listen and even that our new generations 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:22.139 like our children are listening to songs from 00:14:22.139 --> 00:14:25.919 the 80s now because of digital, you know the 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:28.220 did the digital world and everybody being able 00:14:28.220 --> 00:14:31.940 to have access to Some music from the 80s. It's 00:14:31.940 --> 00:14:36.379 really lovely and music it sound tracks on you 00:14:36.379 --> 00:14:40.220 know movies that have come out and That are based 00:14:40.220 --> 00:14:42.559 in the 80s and television series like stranger 00:14:42.559 --> 00:14:45.559 things, you know, I think it's very relevant 00:14:45.419 --> 00:14:48.740 and I think it's great that my kids get to actually 00:14:48.740 --> 00:14:51.379 kind of live a little bit of it. Absolutely, 00:14:52.740 --> 00:14:55.779 absolutely. We're taking a quick break to talk 00:14:55.779 --> 00:14:57.980 about the things we carry with us every single 00:14:57.980 --> 00:15:00.480 day. 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Yes, that is a song I co -wrote 00:17:27.680 --> 00:17:33.259 with Jim Sullivan also very he was in Wild Boys 00:17:33.259 --> 00:17:38.359 and he's a wonderful producer and I wrote that 00:17:38.359 --> 00:17:45.069 record just after Covid actually and It I worked 00:17:45.069 --> 00:17:47.490 with him remotely and it was one of the first 00:17:47.490 --> 00:17:50.630 times that I was working with the producer not 00:17:50.630 --> 00:17:53.890 face to face not in the same room and it was 00:17:53.890 --> 00:17:58.349 quite a challenge because I am such a like in 00:17:58.349 --> 00:18:00.490 the room where it happens kind of person where 00:18:00.490 --> 00:18:04.029 like I I love that like, you know stuff like 00:18:04.029 --> 00:18:06.650 when you're in a room in a studio and there's 00:18:06.650 --> 00:18:09.579 something that's I know somebody's banging on 00:18:09.579 --> 00:18:10.880 the piano or whatever and you're like, oh, hold 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:13.599 on a second, keep playing that same thing, keep 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:15.299 playing that. And then you're all of a sudden 00:18:15.299 --> 00:18:17.619 like, okay, I hear a top line melody on that. 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:20.380 It's just the team thing that happens while you're 00:18:20.380 --> 00:18:22.980 in the room and like the juices flowing, you 00:18:22.980 --> 00:18:26.140 know, the creative juices flowing. but it was 00:18:26.140 --> 00:18:28.519 quite interesting to be able to do it remotely 00:18:28.519 --> 00:18:32.259 and you know zoom isn't great for music like 00:18:32.259 --> 00:18:35.579 i find like you're not actually hearing it properly 00:18:35.579 --> 00:18:39.119 and i think ultimately technology will get better 00:18:39.119 --> 00:18:41.279 and better and you'll be able to you'll be able 00:18:41.279 --> 00:18:45.450 to work better, you know, on remotely for music. 00:18:45.769 --> 00:18:50.329 But I found it a bit of a challenge. So I had 00:18:50.329 --> 00:18:53.670 an idea for the song, again, a 1980s inspired 00:18:53.670 --> 00:18:56.369 record, I was like adamant that there was guitar 00:18:56.369 --> 00:19:00.549 in this song, particularly, because I love the 00:19:00.549 --> 00:19:04.430 sort of 80s rock vibe as well. I wanted to have 00:19:04.430 --> 00:19:08.069 some sort of motivating element to it, like the 00:19:08.069 --> 00:19:10.289 kind of song that you want to let go for a run 00:19:10.289 --> 00:19:12.900 to, you know, and some sort of inspiring element 00:19:12.900 --> 00:19:18.019 to it and also again like how you have a dream 00:19:18.019 --> 00:19:20.440 and you you know in this case fire in my eyes 00:19:20.440 --> 00:19:24.039 and you want so badly to achieve that dream and 00:19:24.039 --> 00:19:27.319 so it we we worked on it and we honed it and 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:29.599 we finally got it to a place where I wanted it 00:19:29.599 --> 00:19:32.420 to be but again I I found it a challenge because 00:19:32.420 --> 00:19:35.319 I wasn't in the room and it took it took a while 00:19:35.319 --> 00:19:38.579 for me to get the right vibe for the song. And 00:19:38.579 --> 00:19:40.940 I'm glad it finally turned out the way I wanted 00:19:40.940 --> 00:19:43.839 it to turn out. But it was, yeah, it was one 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:46.660 of the, you know, probably my only song. And 00:19:46.660 --> 00:19:48.400 I think it will probably be the last song that 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:54.259 I do remotely. Okay, well, you've got Get Together 00:19:54.259 --> 00:19:57.859 next. Another song I wrote with a really good 00:19:57.859 --> 00:20:03.359 friend of mine, a producer, Craig J. He is also 00:20:03.359 --> 00:20:06.759 a DJ, an extraordinarily talented co -writer. 00:20:07.220 --> 00:20:11.059 He used to be the musical director for, what 00:20:11.059 --> 00:20:13.700 was his name? David Cassidy. You remember David 00:20:13.700 --> 00:20:16.180 Cassidy from the Partridge family? Yes. Absolutely, 00:20:16.539 --> 00:20:20.119 yes. Craig is one of us. Again, another Gen X 00:20:20.119 --> 00:20:23.299 guy. He's been around and he's absolutely super 00:20:23.299 --> 00:20:28.319 talented. And he's based in Chicago, but we did 00:20:28.319 --> 00:20:31.779 write the song together. And then also, again, 00:20:32.099 --> 00:20:36.759 the song is actually about being not together. 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:44.519 It's about how, over COVID, everyone was not 00:20:44.519 --> 00:20:47.799 being able to be in the same place. And everybody 00:20:47.799 --> 00:20:51.259 had to be on screen. And so it was about how 00:20:51.259 --> 00:20:54.230 people were socializing only through a screen 00:20:54.230 --> 00:20:57.009 basically and and it was about time that we needed 00:20:57.009 --> 00:20:59.670 to get together like physically get together 00:20:59.670 --> 00:21:02.569 and so that was how we wrote the song about how 00:21:02.569 --> 00:21:05.109 sick we were about how sick of it like we were 00:21:05.109 --> 00:21:08.930 about being like stuck behind a computer and 00:21:08.930 --> 00:21:12.109 how relieving it was to finally get back together 00:21:12.109 --> 00:21:15.049 again in the room so yeah that yeah it's funny 00:21:15.049 --> 00:21:16.769 that you asked me that question right after the 00:21:16.769 --> 00:21:19.430 other one but that's that's true that's that's 00:21:19.430 --> 00:21:21.569 a great story because uh i mean obviously during 00:21:21.569 --> 00:21:24.130 lockdown uh i mean i don't know how many thousand 00:21:24.130 --> 00:21:28.849 lockdown songs we got sent yeah totally new twist 00:21:28.849 --> 00:21:32.190 to a lockdown song is this yeah i love it really 00:21:32.190 --> 00:21:34.789 well done all that that's amazing just it's really 00:21:34.789 --> 00:21:39.329 fun because like i really tried so hard to keep 00:21:39.329 --> 00:21:43.799 the element and the theme of my album very much 00:21:43.799 --> 00:21:46.680 the same, you know, in terms of the songs having 00:21:46.680 --> 00:21:49.559 the same or very similar messaging and having 00:21:49.559 --> 00:21:52.779 the same vibe and quality that I wanted like 00:21:52.779 --> 00:21:56.099 to be sort of, you know, inspired by the eighties. 00:21:56.400 --> 00:21:58.900 And yet I worked with a lot of different co -writers 00:21:58.900 --> 00:22:01.099 and producers from all around the world on this 00:22:01.099 --> 00:22:04.910 project. So the fact that all of them actually 00:22:04.910 --> 00:22:07.829 understood what I wanted to achieve with the 00:22:07.829 --> 00:22:10.970 record and how they all came together was absolutely 00:22:10.970 --> 00:22:14.990 really brilliant. And I'm super, super happy 00:22:14.990 --> 00:22:17.369 that even working with all these people, they 00:22:17.369 --> 00:22:20.750 all got the message. They all got the memo. Brilliant, 00:22:20.829 --> 00:22:24.170 I love it. Now the next one, this is very special. 00:22:25.869 --> 00:22:28.490 Now 1980s again, it's taken me back to the days 00:22:28.490 --> 00:22:31.930 of clubbing and things. And I was the club DJ 00:22:31.930 --> 00:22:35.789 from the late 80s and into the mid 90s. So Mirabal, 00:22:36.109 --> 00:22:39.740 very special. Tell me all about that. Oh, that 00:22:39.740 --> 00:22:43.220 one and Superwoman. So two of the songs off of 00:22:43.220 --> 00:22:46.240 this album I co -wrote with another wonderful 00:22:46.240 --> 00:22:50.220 woman, actually. And her name is Rachel Walker 00:22:50.220 --> 00:22:55.019 Mason. She is like a super talented songwriter, 00:22:55.460 --> 00:22:59.940 award -winning. She's brilliant. And again, we 00:22:59.940 --> 00:23:05.230 wanted something that this particular song, we 00:23:05.230 --> 00:23:07.410 wanted something exactly that something that 00:23:07.410 --> 00:23:09.910 gave that vibe of you just wanted to get up and 00:23:09.910 --> 00:23:12.549 dance, you know, the times when you went to the 00:23:12.549 --> 00:23:15.130 nightclubs, like you said, and just you see someone 00:23:15.130 --> 00:23:17.509 from across the room and your eyes lock. And 00:23:17.509 --> 00:23:20.630 it's like a real old school. And my husband and 00:23:20.630 --> 00:23:23.829 I back in the 80s, we met in a club like that, 00:23:23.829 --> 00:23:27.349 you know, and I just, you know, I just was kind 00:23:27.349 --> 00:23:29.750 of remembering, you know, what it was like back 00:23:29.750 --> 00:23:32.390 then when I, you know, spent the time dancing, 00:23:32.390 --> 00:23:35.190 you know, my brains out. basically on the dance 00:23:35.190 --> 00:23:38.289 floor it's just um yeah that's where that came 00:23:38.289 --> 00:23:40.990 from to be honest yeah I love that so much like 00:23:40.990 --> 00:23:43.309 it obviously it wasn't when you and your husband 00:23:43.309 --> 00:23:46.049 met but I mean how many hundreds of people or 00:23:46.049 --> 00:23:51.269 more uh did meet by uh when I was DJing uh from 00:23:51.269 --> 00:23:53.289 from eyes connecting across the floor as you 00:23:53.289 --> 00:23:55.410 said when I was DJ the only bit missing from 00:23:55.410 --> 00:23:58.049 your story is that I wasn't the DJ but we had 00:23:58.049 --> 00:24:01.529 to meet later in life but obviously that that 00:24:01.529 --> 00:24:04.109 plays out to many many other people some of them 00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:07.500 listening today, and I was the DJ. And it's just 00:24:07.500 --> 00:24:10.079 so amazing. I love that so much. Really do. Oh, 00:24:10.079 --> 00:24:12.740 thank you. And of course, Superwoman, the title 00:24:12.740 --> 00:24:15.140 track of the album as well. Yeah. It's an amazing 00:24:15.140 --> 00:24:17.960 song that's done very well on hit or miss. And 00:24:17.960 --> 00:24:21.059 I know we played it on Chatterbox before. And 00:24:21.059 --> 00:24:23.740 they do love that song. That is really, really 00:24:23.740 --> 00:24:26.559 nice song. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Again, I wrote 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:30.119 with Rachel, and it was basically about, you 00:24:30.119 --> 00:24:34.640 know, how you know how how women have come so 00:24:34.640 --> 00:24:38.859 far uh since the 80s in particular and you know 00:24:38.859 --> 00:24:42.359 we've always been fighting for our our place 00:24:42.359 --> 00:24:45.779 in in wherever in the corporate world or in in 00:24:45.779 --> 00:24:49.099 in the music world or you know just to say we 00:24:49.099 --> 00:24:53.279 are Just as good if not better than men and we 00:24:53.279 --> 00:24:55.420 can balance it all and we could juggle it all 00:24:55.420 --> 00:24:57.660 we can have the babies and yes We could also 00:24:57.660 --> 00:24:59.839 work and we could you know, so that was that 00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:03.420 and so when I made the video of Superwoman I 00:25:03.420 --> 00:25:06.680 wanted to keep it authentic and I am surrounded 00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:10.839 by the most wonderful friends and family of very 00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:15.019 strong and Inspiring women and I just reached 00:25:15.019 --> 00:25:19.180 out to my friends my family my fans and I said 00:25:19.180 --> 00:25:22.839 guys I'm going to put together a video of showing 00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:27.559 what your best you know what like living your 00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:30.519 best life and what makes you a superwoman what 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:33.579 gives you your superpower and they all sent me 00:25:33.579 --> 00:25:36.700 clips and they were just so incredible I mean 00:25:36.700 --> 00:25:39.500 one of my close friends like she's literally 00:25:39.500 --> 00:25:42.700 barefoot water skiing and then I have another 00:25:42.700 --> 00:25:46.140 friend that's like doing yoga on the on the sand 00:25:46.140 --> 00:25:49.119 and then another friend that's like breastfeeding. 00:25:49.539 --> 00:25:52.140 I mean, I mean, it's just amazing things that 00:25:52.140 --> 00:25:55.119 women could do. And I just said, that's what 00:25:55.119 --> 00:25:57.519 my video is going to be. I wanted it to be real. 00:25:57.700 --> 00:26:00.940 I wanted to be real people, real life and very, 00:26:00.940 --> 00:26:03.700 you know, people could relate to something very 00:26:03.700 --> 00:26:07.700 relevant. Excellent. Yeah. Separate ways. That's 00:26:07.700 --> 00:26:09.740 the new one to us. So separate ways. Tell us 00:26:09.740 --> 00:26:12.180 about that one. Well, separate ways is actually 00:26:12.180 --> 00:26:16.519 a cover. of the actual original song of Separate 00:26:16.519 --> 00:26:20.640 Ways. And I kind of turned it on its head and 00:26:20.640 --> 00:26:24.880 made it sound like something that came out of 00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:28.700 Camp Stacy Jackson. And it's just a song I grew 00:26:28.700 --> 00:26:30.900 up with that I really found was powerful and 00:26:30.900 --> 00:26:37.599 strong about how you could move on from something 00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:42.500 that you might have thought that was your end 00:26:42.500 --> 00:26:45.619 -all, be -all of relationships or of anything 00:26:45.619 --> 00:26:47.559 in that matter, but you can repart yourself, 00:26:47.619 --> 00:26:49.960 you can leave, you can do something and turn 00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:52.720 your life around. And I just felt that that message 00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:56.220 was very sort of poignant and relevant to how 00:26:56.220 --> 00:26:58.400 I wanted to get the album together and the messages 00:26:58.400 --> 00:27:01.240 I wanted for the album to say. That's great, 00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:03.680 I like that. Now another song that we know well, 00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:06.480 it's done ever so well by being voted a smash 00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:09.059 hit on hit or miss and it's definitely been played 00:27:09.059 --> 00:27:13.000 on Chatterbox before and that is Soldier. Yeah, 00:27:13.180 --> 00:27:18.359 this is a funny story. Thank you. I love this 00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:21.160 record. You're not going to believe this, but 00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:27.619 this song I actually co -wrote back in 1985. 00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:33.099 with my band and my original band so I was like 00:27:33.099 --> 00:27:41.180 15 16 and I revisited it because I found an old 00:27:41.180 --> 00:27:45.299 old old jam tape like a demo tape that we were 00:27:45.299 --> 00:27:48.720 like kids in the basement of one of our houses 00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:55.690 and the melody was so good And so I rewrote the 00:27:55.690 --> 00:27:58.410 lyrics for it to be a little bit more relevant. 00:27:59.349 --> 00:28:03.430 And this particular song is about a friend of 00:28:03.430 --> 00:28:07.890 mine who, after being married for a long time, 00:28:08.230 --> 00:28:12.509 was understandably living a double life, realizing 00:28:12.509 --> 00:28:15.750 that he wasn't who he was, like his authentic 00:28:15.750 --> 00:28:20.200 self. uh and he finally uh you know had to come 00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:24.279 out and um so the true story behind it is about 00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:27.839 like how you needed to be a soldier and and you 00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:31.500 know be be courageous and brave and understand 00:28:31.500 --> 00:28:33.680 that like you have to be true to who you really 00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:38.299 are and um and yeah so that i rewrote the lyrics 00:28:38.299 --> 00:28:44.029 uh based on that particular story and and that's 00:28:44.029 --> 00:28:46.049 that's how that came about but the actual melody 00:28:46.049 --> 00:28:51.150 was written back in 1985 so it's very special 00:28:51.150 --> 00:28:54.750 to me and so i co -wrote it with originally my 00:28:54.750 --> 00:28:59.309 band from from back then it was crazy and of 00:28:59.309 --> 00:29:02.869 course 40th anniversary now that's yeah absolutely 00:29:02.869 --> 00:29:08.660 yeah yeah and next next up is Urgent Yeah, well, 00:29:08.859 --> 00:29:14.700 that's a cover of a song by Foreigner, right? 00:29:14.819 --> 00:29:17.160 Mm -hmm. Yeah, okay. I just wanted to make sure 00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:20.440 I got that right. And it was just a song. I remember, 00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:23.829 I think it came out when I was 12 or 13. Um, 00:29:23.990 --> 00:29:26.650 and I just liked it. I just always liked that 00:29:26.650 --> 00:29:29.970 song and I had heard it on, uh, being played 00:29:29.970 --> 00:29:33.309 on the radio just a few years ago. And I remember 00:29:33.309 --> 00:29:35.910 just singing every single word to the song. And 00:29:35.910 --> 00:29:38.809 like, I don't, I just turned to my, whoever was 00:29:38.809 --> 00:29:40.470 in the car with me at the time, I think it was 00:29:40.470 --> 00:29:42.869 my kid and I was like, how is it that I remember 00:29:42.869 --> 00:29:45.529 every single lyric to this song from when I was 00:29:45.529 --> 00:29:49.230 12? I don't understand. And then, um, that, and 00:29:49.230 --> 00:29:51.190 yeah, I think it was my son because he said, 00:29:51.190 --> 00:29:52.869 you know, maybe you should do a cover of it. 00:29:53.079 --> 00:29:55.440 and that was how that one ended up on the on 00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:57.079 the record I'm like you know what it's a good 00:29:57.079 --> 00:29:59.980 song I'm gonna put my stamp on it and I just 00:29:59.980 --> 00:30:01.960 remembered loving it growing up in the 80s and 00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:04.579 going you know what this this song just holds 00:30:04.579 --> 00:30:06.779 a special place in my heart for I don't know 00:30:06.779 --> 00:30:09.779 various reasons probably my first boyfriend or 00:30:09.779 --> 00:30:11.539 something I don't know but it was just a memory 00:30:11.539 --> 00:30:15.240 that just I decided it needed to be on the record 00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:20.160 Nick and Sue We're taking a quick break to talk 00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:22.380 about the things we carry with us every single 00:30:22.380 --> 00:30:24.839 day. 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And we 00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:18.920 wrote this song as the theme song for Stacey 00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:22.980 Jackson in the 80s. So which ran, I did 54 episodes, 00:33:22.980 --> 00:33:25.220 those three seasons of the television show that 00:33:25.220 --> 00:33:28.599 ran on sky. And Ramsey and I wrote the theme 00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:31.890 song for it. And it was so funny because We didn't 00:33:31.890 --> 00:33:35.569 even release it. It was just on TV. And then 00:33:35.569 --> 00:33:39.789 a few months after the show premiered, I'm like, 00:33:40.089 --> 00:33:43.089 oh my god, we didn't even release it as a single. 00:33:43.849 --> 00:33:45.650 People were calling it to the station going, 00:33:45.809 --> 00:33:48.210 what song is this? Is it an 80s song? Who wrote 00:33:48.210 --> 00:33:51.589 the song? And so I was like, oh my god, you're 00:33:51.589 --> 00:33:54.910 right. We have to release it. And so we released 00:33:54.910 --> 00:33:57.019 it as a single. And then, of course, it belonged 00:33:57.019 --> 00:34:00.339 on this album. I also did an acoustic version 00:34:00.339 --> 00:34:03.799 of this song and again the message of it being 00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:09.210 you know how you could basically be a lot of 00:34:09.210 --> 00:34:13.630 things to a lot of people and still do everything 00:34:13.630 --> 00:34:18.730 great. And it's that kind of vibe about being 00:34:18.730 --> 00:34:21.309 able to live your dream, live your best life 00:34:21.309 --> 00:34:24.329 and still balance it all and juggle all the balls 00:34:24.329 --> 00:34:26.289 up in the air. And that's pretty much what that 00:34:26.289 --> 00:34:28.469 song is about. And it's actually probably one 00:34:28.469 --> 00:34:30.900 of my favorite songs on the record too. It is 00:34:30.900 --> 00:34:33.480 a great song and it's one that the Hit or Miss 00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:37.260 audience and also Chad's book audiences are familiar 00:34:37.260 --> 00:34:40.500 with as well. So yeah, that's all good. So we 00:34:40.500 --> 00:34:45.119 have 10 tracks on the album. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:47.940 10 tracks. And Flipside also went to number one 00:34:47.940 --> 00:34:50.960 on the global radio charts, which was very exciting. 00:34:51.460 --> 00:34:55.260 So yeah, you know what, it's funny because I'm 00:34:55.260 --> 00:34:57.699 really proud of this work. Like I feel like as 00:34:57.699 --> 00:34:59.940 an artist, you know, you look back at the stuff 00:34:59.940 --> 00:35:02.039 that you put out and the things that you've created. 00:35:02.780 --> 00:35:06.059 And I'm really like, if I, I don't want to say 00:35:06.059 --> 00:35:07.760 this, but I mean, like, God forbid, but if I 00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:11.219 was to like go tomorrow, I feel like I've left 00:35:11.219 --> 00:35:15.300 a really great message and a bit of a legacy, 00:35:15.300 --> 00:35:19.199 you know, of who I am and sort of what I was 00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:23.480 trying to say. in my life and I'm very, you know, 00:35:23.719 --> 00:35:27.860 very proud of this work, so yeah. I hope I don't 00:35:27.860 --> 00:35:29.960 go tomorrow though. I hope I'm around for at 00:35:29.960 --> 00:35:33.300 least another, I don't know, 50 years. Absolutely, 00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:35.579 absolutely. This donation, there's no reason 00:35:35.579 --> 00:35:39.940 why we wouldn't, so. I know. What were we talking 00:35:39.940 --> 00:35:45.320 about before we move on? Of course, we must say, 00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:49.300 not to do with the Superwoman album, but of course, 00:35:51.039 --> 00:35:53.659 you've been on a release with Snoop Dogg, of 00:35:53.659 --> 00:35:56.880 course. Yeah, I know. Again, it was called Live 00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:59.500 It Up, and again, that whole album was also called 00:35:59.500 --> 00:36:02.460 Live It Up. That's probably my claim to fame. 00:36:02.579 --> 00:36:05.199 I guess it's almost 15 years ago that I worked 00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:09.929 with him. And yeah, I think it's God, it was 00:36:09.929 --> 00:36:12.309 such a life changing experience, you know, again, 00:36:12.429 --> 00:36:15.329 bringing it to being in the room where it happens. 00:36:15.710 --> 00:36:18.929 I don't think I would have been just as happy, 00:36:18.929 --> 00:36:21.389 you know, sending him the parts and telling him 00:36:21.389 --> 00:36:23.510 to rap on it, you know, like it didn't work out 00:36:23.510 --> 00:36:28.670 that way. I was very adamant my that I was working 00:36:28.670 --> 00:36:32.199 in the room with him. I didn't I wanted to. I 00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:35.480 wanted to experience the experience of writing 00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:38.800 the song together. And that's exactly what we 00:36:38.800 --> 00:36:44.900 did. And I, you know, I absolutely I loved what 00:36:44.900 --> 00:36:47.579 he wrote. He understood me. He understood where 00:36:47.579 --> 00:36:51.239 I was coming from when he wrote his rap part. 00:36:51.699 --> 00:36:55.699 And we bonded over, you know, we couldn't be 00:36:55.699 --> 00:36:57.840 more chalk and cheese that come from two different 00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:01.750 worlds. But we did bond over our common things, 00:37:01.889 --> 00:37:04.369 which were our children, which we both have the 00:37:04.369 --> 00:37:08.449 similar age kids. He's married to his high school 00:37:08.449 --> 00:37:10.949 sweetheart. They've been together forever, and 00:37:10.949 --> 00:37:14.519 that's like me. I mean I met my husband while 00:37:14.519 --> 00:37:17.440 I was in college but still a lot of years and 00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:21.320 you know it's uh yeah I I'm very fortunate that 00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:23.260 I got to spend the time with them because it 00:37:23.260 --> 00:37:25.739 wasn't just about the song it was about the whole 00:37:25.739 --> 00:37:29.380 experience you know and uh I'm still very friendly 00:37:29.380 --> 00:37:34.019 with like some of the posse Which is nice. And 00:37:34.019 --> 00:37:35.900 yeah, and I go and I visit them when I'm out 00:37:35.900 --> 00:37:38.739 in LA and it's just, it was, it was important 00:37:38.739 --> 00:37:42.059 to me to really understand who I was working 00:37:42.059 --> 00:37:44.320 with. It wasn't just like here, take the song 00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:47.260 and write a rap. Um, I feel like that's, you 00:37:47.260 --> 00:37:49.980 know, cause now you can do that. Right. But I 00:37:49.980 --> 00:37:52.719 really needed to be in the room where it was 00:37:52.719 --> 00:37:55.659 happening. Yeah. I'm old school that way. That's 00:37:55.659 --> 00:37:57.800 good, that's good. By the way, it's great to 00:37:57.800 --> 00:37:59.679 be able to talk to you like this and record an 00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:03.019 interview because at the end of the day, who 00:38:03.019 --> 00:38:04.920 would have thought this when we were starting, 00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:06.960 like in the 80s and who would have thought we'd 00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:09.960 be able to do this, you know, without one of 00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:12.639 us having to fly across the pond to do the interview. 00:38:13.279 --> 00:38:15.400 It's amazing how things have happened. I like 00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:17.820 it for that reason. A hundred percent. The same 00:38:17.820 --> 00:38:19.880 with the podcast I'm doing. It's like, you know, 00:38:19.900 --> 00:38:22.619 if you're not, I, I film in Liverpool and you 00:38:22.619 --> 00:38:25.119 know, obviously if you're not within, you know, 00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:28.260 an hour just drive, we'd have to do everything 00:38:28.260 --> 00:38:31.739 remotely. And, but it also opens the doors. Like 00:38:31.739 --> 00:38:33.559 you said, like I can, we've been interviewing 00:38:33.559 --> 00:38:37.000 people from Hollywood and you know, it's a little, 00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:38.980 we have to shoot a little later in the day here, 00:38:38.980 --> 00:38:41.610 of course, but still like it just makes. you 00:38:41.610 --> 00:38:44.469 know, it just opens up the world to be able to 00:38:44.469 --> 00:38:47.989 have this, you know, the ability to interview, 00:38:48.130 --> 00:38:50.369 like you said, just on a Zoom call. It's great. 00:38:50.789 --> 00:38:53.789 Yeah. And you mentioned, let's get this right 00:38:53.789 --> 00:38:56.469 again, Gangster Rapper made me a better mom. 00:38:57.250 --> 00:38:59.289 The book is out. But when we got the audio thing 00:38:59.289 --> 00:39:01.269 to talk about later this year, a couple of months 00:39:01.269 --> 00:39:04.230 time or whatever. Yeah. Looking forward to that. 00:39:04.369 --> 00:39:07.469 Do make sure when it's out, we know about it. 00:39:07.610 --> 00:39:10.090 We'll have a little update then. Absolutely. 00:39:10.489 --> 00:39:12.329 You've done loads of television. Is there any 00:39:12.329 --> 00:39:15.409 more television in the pipeline for 2025 that 00:39:15.409 --> 00:39:18.130 you know of at the moment? Oh, gosh, I don't 00:39:18.130 --> 00:39:21.210 know. I've done a few auditions in the last few 00:39:21.210 --> 00:39:23.409 months, and we'll see what happens with any of 00:39:23.409 --> 00:39:25.389 those things. I'll keep you in the loop. But 00:39:25.389 --> 00:39:29.889 I have to focus now on, I guess, promoting and 00:39:29.889 --> 00:39:33.630 releasing the soundtrack and the audiobook, which 00:39:33.630 --> 00:39:36.650 is a very big deal for me because it's been optioned 00:39:36.650 --> 00:39:40.920 to become a TV show. So if that happens, and 00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:43.460 of course I'm sort of peddling under the water 00:39:43.460 --> 00:39:46.619 to try to make it happen. then I have to really 00:39:46.619 --> 00:39:49.139 focus on that because if that actually becomes 00:39:49.139 --> 00:39:53.480 a thing, then it's not just one soundtrack. I 00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:56.079 have to put a team together to continue to write 00:39:56.079 --> 00:40:01.079 for more episodes of the show. So that will keep 00:40:01.079 --> 00:40:06.119 me busy for a while. But that is obviously also 00:40:06.119 --> 00:40:09.500 in the TV space, which I love. And yeah, hopefully 00:40:09.500 --> 00:40:12.289 it comes. Hopefully it comes to fruition. I'm 00:40:12.289 --> 00:40:16.010 working on it and you never know, cross fingers 00:40:16.010 --> 00:40:20.510 and toes. Absolutely. And of course, the Keep 00:40:20.510 --> 00:40:23.090 Fit stuff, that's still around, it's still available. 00:40:23.789 --> 00:40:28.929 Yeah, we sold out mostly. I still have some left 00:40:28.929 --> 00:40:31.630 and so we're selling them on Amazon. But it's 00:40:31.630 --> 00:40:33.750 the kind of thing that I think for me, I've got 00:40:33.750 --> 00:40:36.650 a lot of... pots sort of on the simmer, you know, 00:40:36.789 --> 00:40:39.550 and I focus on the one that's actually starting 00:40:39.550 --> 00:40:43.070 to boil, you know, and that's how I, you know, 00:40:43.250 --> 00:40:46.750 roll, I guess. And so right now my focus is on 00:40:46.750 --> 00:40:50.269 the album and on the audio book and then. I might 00:40:50.269 --> 00:40:53.369 revisit the fitness line again, especially if 00:40:53.369 --> 00:40:57.170 it actually happens. Also, I'm in the throes 00:40:57.170 --> 00:41:00.010 of writing the second book, the sequel to How 00:41:00.010 --> 00:41:01.929 a Gangster Rapper Made Me a Better Mom. So who 00:41:01.929 --> 00:41:04.570 knows? Maybe the fitness clothes we'll take will 00:41:04.570 --> 00:41:08.429 come back again. Yeah, that's brilliant. I mean, 00:41:08.750 --> 00:41:11.230 you're the type of star that we love having on 00:41:11.230 --> 00:41:18.690 Chatterbox because there's always something for 00:41:18.690 --> 00:41:20.630 you to back and talk about last time it was the 00:41:20.630 --> 00:41:22.929 album which we're doing now you got the audio 00:41:22.929 --> 00:41:25.050 book we're now talking about a follow -up to 00:41:25.050 --> 00:41:29.650 the to the to the book anyway so it's great so 00:41:29.650 --> 00:41:32.150 when we talked about the audio book then we might 00:41:32.150 --> 00:41:34.869 be talking about the sequel maybe another album 00:41:34.869 --> 00:41:39.650 coming out I mean I know I keep busy I feel your 00:41:39.650 --> 00:41:42.230 energy but that's what I say you're the type 00:41:42.230 --> 00:41:46.210 of style we do like because there's always there's 00:41:46.210 --> 00:41:48.170 always a to be continued and that's brilliant 00:41:48.170 --> 00:41:51.159 yeah Oh, I hope so. Like I said, I hope I'm to 00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:53.340 be around for at least another 50 years. You 00:41:53.340 --> 00:41:55.219 never know, I'd still might be like rocking around 00:41:55.219 --> 00:41:59.360 in my hot pants and heels performing somewhere 00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:05.119 near you. Brilliant. If I let you go, Stacey, 00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:07.300 of course, you have the most amazing websites 00:42:07.300 --> 00:42:12.360 and quite simply StaceyJackson .com. Yep, that's 00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:15.500 me staceyjaxson .com and I'm also on social media 00:42:15.500 --> 00:42:19.059 of course, as you know, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, 00:42:19.239 --> 00:42:23.679 blah blah blah. Nice and easy, people go to staceyjaxson 00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:26.639 .com homepage and all the links to Instagram, 00:42:26.920 --> 00:42:29.619 Facebook and Twitter, that's all there. Spotify, 00:42:30.179 --> 00:42:33.820 YouTube, Amazon, everything, Apple Music, it's 00:42:33.820 --> 00:42:36.489 all there. Stacey, it's been amazing to have 00:42:36.489 --> 00:42:39.329 a catch -up. Thank you for sparing us some time 00:42:39.329 --> 00:42:42.010 for our listeners. Oh, it's my pleasure. Looking 00:42:42.010 --> 00:42:43.949 forward to the next time already. We know there's 00:42:43.949 --> 00:42:46.989 going to be a next time, so yeah, make it as 00:42:46.989 --> 00:42:49.409 we get into during spring. We'll have a chat 00:42:49.409 --> 00:42:51.469 about the audiobook then. That'd be great. Oh, 00:42:51.469 --> 00:42:53.409 wonderful. Thank you so much. It's great to be 00:42:53.409 --> 00:42:55.530 on the show again. And thank you, Stacey. Take 00:42:55.530 --> 00:42:58.190 care now. Bye -bye. You too. Bye. Bye -bye. 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