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Redux podcast with Sir Nick and today our special
guest is international superstar Stacey Jackson
This is Nick and Sue with Chatterbox giving you
all you need to know about music. Hi, I'm Stacey
Jackson and I'm the host of Stacey Jackson in
the 80s. Her approach to life reminds me of one
of those motivational books I see sometimes buy
in airports. Pop singer Stacey Jackson has rocked
the charts in London and now she's ready to take
the U .S. by storm. She's collaborated with some
of the biggest names in the biz like Snoop Dogg.
Stacey, guys, she's a singer -songwriter, we'll
hit chat about that. She's an entrepreneur, she's
a TV presenter. She's basically a workout expert.
Mum of four, yeah, whatever, that's just so easy,
doesn't it? And now a novelist as well. So Stacey,
wow, where do we even start? Come on. Look, lockdown
was productive for me. You know, I'm not a person
that could just sit around. Actually, what I
did do is I wrote a book, it's a fictionalized
book about a woman who juggles basically being
a mom and becoming a pop singer. What I've done
and what I've been doing and of course the pinnacle
of having worked with Snoop was sort of like,
you know, I am happy. I'm doing what I love to
do. I'm living the dream I've always wanted.
I feel like I could never be a happy mom or a
great wife or great friend if I wasn't happy
myself doing what I love to do. That's how he
made me a better mom is that because he's made
me realize that I can live my dream. Of course
the time it took for me to get here has value,
has a lot of value. And now in Chatterbox UK,
we're just lucky enough to welcome back Stacey
Jackson. Stacey, welcome back, how are you? I'm
great. How are you? I'm absolutely I just got
back from a lovely week away in the Bahamas.
I'd never been there. And so I'm very relaxed.
Very, very. I'm super eager to chat to you. And
it's really nice to be back on the show. Oh,
wonderful. And we went on a cruise some years
ago now. But one of the places we stopped at
was was the Bahamas with the Royal Caribbean,
Caribbean. So, yeah, we We were in good company
there. We absolutely enjoyed it. So I know what
you're saying. Well, I have to tell you, like
at this time of the year, it's like I crave sun.
So it was quite nice to just be, you know, in
a bathing suit and, you know, with your feet
dangling in the water. I can't complain. It was
really nice. The blue sea, the white sand, it's
all there. Oh, exactly. And you know what? I
just need like a minor little recharge, even
if it was just a few days or a week or whatever,
like that's it. And then I can come back completely
and fully engaged and focused. It's just it's
amazing how a holiday does that to you. Oh, yes.
Oh, yes. Okay, right when we spoke last time
you were talking about an album on its way And
that would be out within the next next year.
So we're taking it back. It is within that year
and Great title and it's obviously named after
one of the songs on the album, which we absolutely
love anyway Superwoman that's the name of the
album And it's out now So I'm glad that reached
fruition of that. So what I'd like to do, I'm
going to take you through the album and you tell
us about the tracks on it and how we're going
to do it. So we got a song called Both Ways.
Tell us about that one. Oh, I worked with an
amazing producer on that record, Cy Helbert.
He's worked with One Direction and I mean, he's
just incredible and so talented. And I wrote
that one with him a while ago, actually. And
It was funny because I don't know if you know
that I also have a book out called How a Gangster
Rapper Made Me a Better Mom. And originally the
book is coming out, hopefully I'll be on your
show again in a few months, because the audio
version of the book is coming out with a full
integrated soundtrack. and originally I wrote
this song both ways to be on the soundtrack but
I actually I deliberately wrote the song with
a bit of an 80s vibe to it and when I put the
album Superwoman together the whole album was
inspired by sort of the 1980s and I revisited
the record I wrote with Psy and I'm like you
know what this will fit very well on this album.
And because the theme and a lot of the messages
in most of the tracks on the record is about
never too late to live your dreams and being
able to be, like in my case, a mom and someone
with a career. And I felt that the message in
this particular record made... more sense to
be on the album itself than to just be on the
soundtrack. And by the way, I might also end
up on the soundtrack anyway. But that was sort
of the sort of story behind the song. And so
it was inspired by the 80s, along with other
songs on the album. And because the message is
so... especially, I guess, empowering to women
who a lot of times feel like they have to juggle
so many things between being a wife and a mother
and somebody who works. And it's just a lot of
balls up in the air. So that's really the gist
of the record. And it's one of my favorite songs
on the album, too. So that's the story. I like
it. OK. Then we've got Closer to My Dreams. Again,
another one that's inspired by the 80s. I wrote
this. with also an incredible producer called
Michael Stockwell. And that was the first time
I worked with him. And we came up with this record
based on, again, having grown up as a Gen Xer
in the 1980s, I was inspired by the sounds of
that era. And so the story of this song is basically
remembering what it was like. growing up in that
time. And then how how we how that journey made
you who you are today. So and I feel that that
theme for me is very relevant. I did a show called
Stacey Jackson in the 80s. I'm launching a new
podcast called the gen experience. And so I think
a lot of things that and you're probably around
the same age as me growing up you know back then
and then sort of how that journey of being a
teenager in the 80s and you know kind of made
you who you are or inspired you to make the choices
that you made so that you could become you know
you now and that's pretty much the gist of that
song and um yeah And also, it's slightly different.
It's a little slower than the rest of the songs
on the album. But a lot of people feel that that's
their favorite song on the record. So I think
there's something for everyone. Great, no, I
like that. And you mentioned the 80s a few times.
And you are quite similar age to you. I catch
up with you age -wise on Mondays, my birthday
on Mondays. Oh, happy birthday. I'm only a few
weeks younger than you, but no, thank you very
much. Thank you. Yes, all good. Yeah. Well, so
then you relate to me when I say that, like,
you know, the gen experience and, you know, I
really feel that, like, the 80s We're just I
meant so much to me that particular era. I mean
I met my husband in 1989, but like even even
so like I just feel that my My teenage years
and my biggest growth in trying to figure out
who I wanted to become Was probably based on
you know, what was going on at the time in the
80s? And I think we are a very special generation.
I really do I'm a big fan of the Gen X And when
does the podcast actually start? When does it
commence? It commences I think in the next couple
of weeks. We're going to start popping out teasers.
We basically interview a bunch of different,
very similar to your show, but we don't just
stick with the music. It's basically people in
all... areas of, you know, culture, lifestyle,
music, we have actors, producers, politicians,
basically all walks of life and people who are
successful in their own right, and how they are
all, you know, from the 80s or have grown up
in the 80s and what's changed. And again, what
makes them who they are today or the choices
that they made growing up in the 80s to determine
where they would be. And some of them actually
had repotted themselves later on in life because
they realized that they weren't on the path that
they wanted to be on originally. repotted themselves.
And I think it's a great story. So yeah, I feel
it's lovely to be able to chat to so many different
people from different walks of life, not just
in the music, and really get to know and get
people to understand, you know, how the 80s really
influenced so many people of our generation,
I guess. And yeah, it's great. I'm excited. Sure,
we're not just music ourselves. However, you
do have a totally different twist on what we
do because, you know, we will interview somebody
that's brought a book out or something. Right,
right. It doesn't just have to be music. when
it comes to politics we don't actually uh appreciate
you got a different stance on it but uh we would
only have a politician on if like for instance
we've got a very famous politician from uh now
and well it's the opposition party but going
back he was really big 20 30 years ago and he's
done a lot of steam train programs for the bbc
so he will come on and talk about the steam train
programs but not the politics but see you've
got a great twist on it so i like i like It is
totally, it's almost refreshing. It's like a
total new thing. I haven't quite heard that concept.
So that thing does sound good, actually. So yeah,
I'm excited. Thank you very much. Yeah. I mean,
you know, it's quite fun because like the influence
of that time was, you know, even like fashion,
like just remember about the eighties, like all
the chat, the transformations that came out of
the 1980s and how music influenced fashion and
how fashion influenced other decisions. And there
was a lot of cultural connections back in the
80s that people can go back to and go, wow, think
about how inspiring different life. sort of choices
were and you know where we were back then and
now where we are today. I don't know. I'm really
enjoying it now obviously like you talking to
different people from different walks of life.
I find it very inspiring and you know every day
I learn something new and it's great. It's great.
Anyways back to my album. We went off. I was
just thinking about the 80s hairstyle and the
clothes. That's also amazing, wasn't it? It's
just like, great. It was great. Yeah, really
great. And it's so relevant today. I mean, like,
there's, I have to say, like, I guess through
TikTok and, you know, Instagram, and being able
to read Listen and even that our new generations
like our children are listening to songs from
the 80s now because of digital, you know the
did the digital world and everybody being able
to have access to Some music from the 80s. It's
really lovely and music it sound tracks on you
know movies that have come out and That are based
in the 80s and television series like stranger
things, you know, I think it's very relevant
and I think it's great that my kids get to actually
kind of live a little bit of it. Absolutely,
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Far In My Eyes for the next track we're going
to talk about. Yes, that is a song I co -wrote
with Jim Sullivan also very he was in Wild Boys
and he's a wonderful producer and I wrote that
record just after Covid actually and It I worked
with him remotely and it was one of the first
times that I was working with the producer not
face to face not in the same room and it was
quite a challenge because I am such a like in
the room where it happens kind of person where
like I I love that like, you know stuff like
when you're in a room in a studio and there's
something that's I know somebody's banging on
the piano or whatever and you're like, oh, hold
on a second, keep playing that same thing, keep
playing that. And then you're all of a sudden
like, okay, I hear a top line melody on that.
It's just the team thing that happens while you're
in the room and like the juices flowing, you
know, the creative juices flowing. but it was
quite interesting to be able to do it remotely
and you know zoom isn't great for music like
i find like you're not actually hearing it properly
and i think ultimately technology will get better
and better and you'll be able to you'll be able
to work better, you know, on remotely for music.
But I found it a bit of a challenge. So I had
an idea for the song, again, a 1980s inspired
record, I was like adamant that there was guitar
in this song, particularly, because I love the
sort of 80s rock vibe as well. I wanted to have
some sort of motivating element to it, like the
kind of song that you want to let go for a run
to, you know, and some sort of inspiring element
to it and also again like how you have a dream
and you you know in this case fire in my eyes
and you want so badly to achieve that dream and
so it we we worked on it and we honed it and
we finally got it to a place where I wanted it
to be but again I I found it a challenge because
I wasn't in the room and it took it took a while
for me to get the right vibe for the song. And
I'm glad it finally turned out the way I wanted
it to turn out. But it was, yeah, it was one
of the, you know, probably my only song. And
I think it will probably be the last song that
I do remotely. Okay, well, you've got Get Together
next. Another song I wrote with a really good
friend of mine, a producer, Craig J. He is also
a DJ, an extraordinarily talented co -writer.
He used to be the musical director for, what
was his name? David Cassidy. You remember David
Cassidy from the Partridge family? Yes. Absolutely,
yes. Craig is one of us. Again, another Gen X
guy. He's been around and he's absolutely super
talented. And he's based in Chicago, but we did
write the song together. And then also, again,
the song is actually about being not together.
It's about how, over COVID, everyone was not
being able to be in the same place. And everybody
had to be on screen. And so it was about how
people were socializing only through a screen
basically and and it was about time that we needed
to get together like physically get together
and so that was how we wrote the song about how
sick we were about how sick of it like we were
about being like stuck behind a computer and
how relieving it was to finally get back together
again in the room so yeah that yeah it's funny
that you asked me that question right after the
other one but that's that's true that's that's
a great story because uh i mean obviously during
lockdown uh i mean i don't know how many thousand
lockdown songs we got sent yeah totally new twist
to a lockdown song is this yeah i love it really
well done all that that's amazing just it's really
fun because like i really tried so hard to keep
the element and the theme of my album very much
the same, you know, in terms of the songs having
the same or very similar messaging and having
the same vibe and quality that I wanted like
to be sort of, you know, inspired by the eighties.
And yet I worked with a lot of different co -writers
and producers from all around the world on this
project. So the fact that all of them actually
understood what I wanted to achieve with the
record and how they all came together was absolutely
really brilliant. And I'm super, super happy
that even working with all these people, they
all got the message. They all got the memo. Brilliant,
I love it. Now the next one, this is very special.
Now 1980s again, it's taken me back to the days
of clubbing and things. And I was the club DJ
from the late 80s and into the mid 90s. So Mirabal,
very special. Tell me all about that. Oh, that
one and Superwoman. So two of the songs off of
this album I co -wrote with another wonderful
woman, actually. And her name is Rachel Walker
Mason. She is like a super talented songwriter,
award -winning. She's brilliant. And again, we
wanted something that this particular song, we
wanted something exactly that something that
gave that vibe of you just wanted to get up and
dance, you know, the times when you went to the
nightclubs, like you said, and just you see someone
from across the room and your eyes lock. And
it's like a real old school. And my husband and
I back in the 80s, we met in a club like that,
you know, and I just, you know, I just was kind
of remembering, you know, what it was like back
then when I, you know, spent the time dancing,
you know, my brains out. basically on the dance
floor it's just um yeah that's where that came
from to be honest yeah I love that so much like
it obviously it wasn't when you and your husband
met but I mean how many hundreds of people or
more uh did meet by uh when I was DJing uh from
from eyes connecting across the floor as you
said when I was DJ the only bit missing from
your story is that I wasn't the DJ but we had
to meet later in life but obviously that that
plays out to many many other people some of them
listening today, and I was the DJ. And it's just
so amazing. I love that so much. Really do. Oh,
thank you. And of course, Superwoman, the title
track of the album as well. Yeah. It's an amazing
song that's done very well on hit or miss. And
I know we played it on Chatterbox before. And
they do love that song. That is really, really
nice song. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Again, I wrote
with Rachel, and it was basically about, you
know, how you know how how women have come so
far uh since the 80s in particular and you know
we've always been fighting for our our place
in in wherever in the corporate world or in in
in the music world or you know just to say we
are Just as good if not better than men and we
can balance it all and we could juggle it all
we can have the babies and yes We could also
work and we could you know, so that was that
and so when I made the video of Superwoman I
wanted to keep it authentic and I am surrounded
by the most wonderful friends and family of very
strong and Inspiring women and I just reached
out to my friends my family my fans and I said
guys I'm going to put together a video of showing
what your best you know what like living your
best life and what makes you a superwoman what
gives you your superpower and they all sent me
clips and they were just so incredible I mean
one of my close friends like she's literally
barefoot water skiing and then I have another
friend that's like doing yoga on the on the sand
and then another friend that's like breastfeeding.
I mean, I mean, it's just amazing things that
women could do. And I just said, that's what
my video is going to be. I wanted it to be real.
I wanted to be real people, real life and very,
you know, people could relate to something very
relevant. Excellent. Yeah. Separate ways. That's
the new one to us. So separate ways. Tell us
about that one. Well, separate ways is actually
a cover. of the actual original song of Separate
Ways. And I kind of turned it on its head and
made it sound like something that came out of
Camp Stacy Jackson. And it's just a song I grew
up with that I really found was powerful and
strong about how you could move on from something
that you might have thought that was your end
-all, be -all of relationships or of anything
in that matter, but you can repart yourself,
you can leave, you can do something and turn
your life around. And I just felt that that message
was very sort of poignant and relevant to how
I wanted to get the album together and the messages
I wanted for the album to say. That's great,
I like that. Now another song that we know well,
it's done ever so well by being voted a smash
hit on hit or miss and it's definitely been played
on Chatterbox before and that is Soldier. Yeah,
this is a funny story. Thank you. I love this
record. You're not going to believe this, but
this song I actually co -wrote back in 1985.
with my band and my original band so I was like
15 16 and I revisited it because I found an old
old old jam tape like a demo tape that we were
like kids in the basement of one of our houses
and the melody was so good And so I rewrote the
lyrics for it to be a little bit more relevant.
And this particular song is about a friend of
mine who, after being married for a long time,
was understandably living a double life, realizing
that he wasn't who he was, like his authentic
self. uh and he finally uh you know had to come
out and um so the true story behind it is about
like how you needed to be a soldier and and you
know be be courageous and brave and understand
that like you have to be true to who you really
are and um and yeah so that i rewrote the lyrics
uh based on that particular story and and that's
that's how that came about but the actual melody
was written back in 1985 so it's very special
to me and so i co -wrote it with originally my
band from from back then it was crazy and of
course 40th anniversary now that's yeah absolutely
yeah yeah and next next up is Urgent Yeah, well,
that's a cover of a song by Foreigner, right?
Mm -hmm. Yeah, okay. I just wanted to make sure
I got that right. And it was just a song. I remember,
I think it came out when I was 12 or 13. Um,
and I just liked it. I just always liked that
song and I had heard it on, uh, being played
on the radio just a few years ago. And I remember
just singing every single word to the song. And
like, I don't, I just turned to my, whoever was
in the car with me at the time, I think it was
my kid and I was like, how is it that I remember
every single lyric to this song from when I was
12? I don't understand. And then, um, that, and
yeah, I think it was my son because he said,
you know, maybe you should do a cover of it.
and that was how that one ended up on the on
the record I'm like you know what it's a good
song I'm gonna put my stamp on it and I just
remembered loving it growing up in the 80s and
going you know what this this song just holds
a special place in my heart for I don't know
various reasons probably my first boyfriend or
something I don't know but it was just a memory
that just I decided it needed to be on the record
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Shatterbox, Shatterbox, Shatterbox. And if you're
ever stuck, well, not saying you're stuck, it's
very well, a very great name for a flipside song.
Let's call it Flipside, why not? That's you and
Ramsey Sliman? Yeah, Ramsey. And now he's my,
like... primary producer, I write with him a
lot. In fact, he produced the soundtrack for
the for the book, how gangster rapper made me
a better mom. And he's super talented. And we
wrote this song as the theme song for Stacey
Jackson in the 80s. So which ran, I did 54 episodes,
those three seasons of the television show that
ran on sky. And Ramsey and I wrote the theme
song for it. And it was so funny because We didn't
even release it. It was just on TV. And then
a few months after the show premiered, I'm like,
oh my god, we didn't even release it as a single.
People were calling it to the station going,
what song is this? Is it an 80s song? Who wrote
the song? And so I was like, oh my god, you're
right. We have to release it. And so we released
it as a single. And then, of course, it belonged
on this album. I also did an acoustic version
of this song and again the message of it being
you know how you could basically be a lot of
things to a lot of people and still do everything
great. And it's that kind of vibe about being
able to live your dream, live your best life
and still balance it all and juggle all the balls
up in the air. And that's pretty much what that
song is about. And it's actually probably one
of my favorite songs on the record too. It is
a great song and it's one that the Hit or Miss
audience and also Chad's book audiences are familiar
with as well. So yeah, that's all good. So we
have 10 tracks on the album. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
10 tracks. And Flipside also went to number one
on the global radio charts, which was very exciting.
So yeah, you know what, it's funny because I'm
really proud of this work. Like I feel like as
an artist, you know, you look back at the stuff
that you put out and the things that you've created.
And I'm really like, if I, I don't want to say
this, but I mean, like, God forbid, but if I
was to like go tomorrow, I feel like I've left
a really great message and a bit of a legacy,
you know, of who I am and sort of what I was
trying to say. in my life and I'm very, you know,
very proud of this work, so yeah. I hope I don't
go tomorrow though. I hope I'm around for at
least another, I don't know, 50 years. Absolutely,
absolutely. This donation, there's no reason
why we wouldn't, so. I know. What were we talking
about before we move on? Of course, we must say,
not to do with the Superwoman album, but of course,
you've been on a release with Snoop Dogg, of
course. Yeah, I know. Again, it was called Live
It Up, and again, that whole album was also called
Live It Up. That's probably my claim to fame.
I guess it's almost 15 years ago that I worked
with him. And yeah, I think it's God, it was
such a life changing experience, you know, again,
bringing it to being in the room where it happens.
I don't think I would have been just as happy,
you know, sending him the parts and telling him
to rap on it, you know, like it didn't work out
that way. I was very adamant my that I was working
in the room with him. I didn't I wanted to. I
wanted to experience the experience of writing
the song together. And that's exactly what we
did. And I, you know, I absolutely I loved what
he wrote. He understood me. He understood where
I was coming from when he wrote his rap part.
And we bonded over, you know, we couldn't be
more chalk and cheese that come from two different
worlds. But we did bond over our common things,
which were our children, which we both have the
similar age kids. He's married to his high school
sweetheart. They've been together forever, and
that's like me. I mean I met my husband while
I was in college but still a lot of years and
you know it's uh yeah I I'm very fortunate that
I got to spend the time with them because it
wasn't just about the song it was about the whole
experience you know and uh I'm still very friendly
with like some of the posse Which is nice. And
yeah, and I go and I visit them when I'm out
in LA and it's just, it was, it was important
to me to really understand who I was working
with. It wasn't just like here, take the song
and write a rap. Um, I feel like that's, you
know, cause now you can do that. Right. But I
really needed to be in the room where it was
happening. Yeah. I'm old school that way. That's
good, that's good. By the way, it's great to
be able to talk to you like this and record an
interview because at the end of the day, who
would have thought this when we were starting,
like in the 80s and who would have thought we'd
be able to do this, you know, without one of
us having to fly across the pond to do the interview.
It's amazing how things have happened. I like
it for that reason. A hundred percent. The same
with the podcast I'm doing. It's like, you know,
if you're not, I, I film in Liverpool and you
know, obviously if you're not within, you know,
an hour just drive, we'd have to do everything
remotely. And, but it also opens the doors. Like
you said, like I can, we've been interviewing
people from Hollywood and you know, it's a little,
we have to shoot a little later in the day here,
of course, but still like it just makes. you
know, it just opens up the world to be able to
have this, you know, the ability to interview,
like you said, just on a Zoom call. It's great.
Yeah. And you mentioned, let's get this right
again, Gangster Rapper made me a better mom.
The book is out. But when we got the audio thing
to talk about later this year, a couple of months
time or whatever. Yeah. Looking forward to that.
Do make sure when it's out, we know about it.
We'll have a little update then. Absolutely.
You've done loads of television. Is there any
more television in the pipeline for 2025 that
you know of at the moment? Oh, gosh, I don't
know. I've done a few auditions in the last few
months, and we'll see what happens with any of
those things. I'll keep you in the loop. But
I have to focus now on, I guess, promoting and
releasing the soundtrack and the audiobook, which
is a very big deal for me because it's been optioned
to become a TV show. So if that happens, and
of course I'm sort of peddling under the water
to try to make it happen. then I have to really
focus on that because if that actually becomes
a thing, then it's not just one soundtrack. I
have to put a team together to continue to write
for more episodes of the show. So that will keep
me busy for a while. But that is obviously also
in the TV space, which I love. And yeah, hopefully
it comes. Hopefully it comes to fruition. I'm
working on it and you never know, cross fingers
and toes. Absolutely. And of course, the Keep
Fit stuff, that's still around, it's still available.
Yeah, we sold out mostly. I still have some left
and so we're selling them on Amazon. But it's
the kind of thing that I think for me, I've got
a lot of... pots sort of on the simmer, you know,
and I focus on the one that's actually starting
to boil, you know, and that's how I, you know,
roll, I guess. And so right now my focus is on
the album and on the audio book and then. I might
revisit the fitness line again, especially if
it actually happens. Also, I'm in the throes
of writing the second book, the sequel to How
a Gangster Rapper Made Me a Better Mom. So who
knows? Maybe the fitness clothes we'll take will
come back again. Yeah, that's brilliant. I mean,
you're the type of star that we love having on
Chatterbox because there's always something for
you to back and talk about last time it was the
album which we're doing now you got the audio
book we're now talking about a follow -up to
the to the to the book anyway so it's great so
when we talked about the audio book then we might
be talking about the sequel maybe another album
coming out I mean I know I keep busy I feel your
energy but that's what I say you're the type
of style we do like because there's always there's
always a to be continued and that's brilliant
yeah Oh, I hope so. Like I said, I hope I'm to
be around for at least another 50 years. You
never know, I'd still might be like rocking around
in my hot pants and heels performing somewhere
near you. Brilliant. If I let you go, Stacey,
of course, you have the most amazing websites
and quite simply StaceyJackson .com. Yep, that's
me staceyjaxson .com and I'm also on social media
of course, as you know, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram,
blah blah blah. Nice and easy, people go to staceyjaxson
.com homepage and all the links to Instagram,
Facebook and Twitter, that's all there. Spotify,
YouTube, Amazon, everything, Apple Music, it's
all there. Stacey, it's been amazing to have
a catch -up. Thank you for sparing us some time
for our listeners. Oh, it's my pleasure. Looking
forward to the next time already. We know there's
going to be a next time, so yeah, make it as
we get into during spring. We'll have a chat
about the audiobook then. That'd be great. Oh,
wonderful. Thank you so much. It's great to be
on the show again. And thank you, Stacey. Take
care now. Bye -bye. You too. Bye. Bye -bye. Bye.
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