WEBVTT 00:00:01.700 --> 00:00:04.559 This edition of the Chatterbox Redux podcast 00:00:04.559 --> 00:00:06.660 is brought to you in association with the Strong 00:00:06.660 --> 00:00:41.200 Coffee Company. More from them in a bit. Welcome 00:00:41.200 --> 00:00:43.920 back to the Chatterbox Redux podcast with Sue 00:00:43.920 --> 00:00:46.679 and Nick and today our special guest is Sean 00:00:46.679 --> 00:01:12.409 Griffin. Nick and Sue with Chatterbox giving 00:01:12.409 --> 00:01:17.030 you all you need to know about musical entertainment. 00:01:21.129 --> 00:01:25.010 Chatterbox, the best interviews with Nick and 00:01:25.010 --> 00:01:37.189 Sue. Chatterbox, the best news And now in Chatterbot, 00:01:37.370 --> 00:01:39.269 we're just lucky enough to welcome Sean Griffin. 00:01:39.450 --> 00:01:41.189 Sean, hello. Welcome, sir. How are you? Hey, 00:01:41.189 --> 00:01:43.290 Sean. You're good. Thanks so much for having 00:01:43.290 --> 00:01:45.409 me. No, thank you. It's great. Great to meet 00:01:45.409 --> 00:01:48.569 you. And right, before we start talking about 00:01:48.569 --> 00:01:52.689 the album and the new single Space Girls, let's 00:01:52.689 --> 00:01:54.769 tell us, as it's the first time we've met you 00:01:54.769 --> 00:01:56.909 and you've been new to quite a few of the member 00:01:56.909 --> 00:01:59.750 stations, could you tell us a little bit about 00:01:59.750 --> 00:02:03.269 yourself and what your influences were and how 00:02:03.269 --> 00:02:05.420 you got here? Take as long or as short as you 00:02:05.420 --> 00:02:09.000 like. It's up to you. OK. Well, I'm living in 00:02:09.000 --> 00:02:11.659 Kingston, New York now, which is in the Hudson 00:02:11.659 --> 00:02:14.719 Valley. Kingston was the first capital of New 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:16.819 York. It was originally a Dutch settlement from 00:02:16.819 --> 00:02:21.819 the 1600s, so kind of old for the States. Yeah, 00:02:21.819 --> 00:02:24.080 I've been here a while, moved up from the Bronx. 00:02:24.879 --> 00:02:27.139 Got started with music, you know, like a lot 00:02:27.139 --> 00:02:30.599 of us. When I was a kid, just grew up in a family. 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:34.159 My dad was always singing. He sang barbershop 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:36.840 and my mom played accordion and did some Irish 00:02:36.840 --> 00:02:38.939 step dancing. And we kind of just grew up with 00:02:38.939 --> 00:02:41.219 that kind of thing. And all of us singing in 00:02:41.219 --> 00:02:44.949 the car and just being... always having a party 00:02:44.949 --> 00:02:47.810 piece you know to sing and when we'd have you 00:02:47.810 --> 00:02:50.590 know kitchen sessions or things like that growing 00:02:50.590 --> 00:02:53.129 up so just you know that was just kind of part 00:02:53.129 --> 00:02:56.590 of what we were used to and when i was uh like 00:02:56.590 --> 00:03:00.009 14 started my first punk band started writing 00:03:00.009 --> 00:03:03.930 songs then um entered some battle of the bands 00:03:03.930 --> 00:03:06.780 at school and that things of that kind of Nature 00:03:06.780 --> 00:03:10.340 and then in college started a band called svelte, 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:13.800 which is very Brit pop kind of influenced at 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:18.419 the time that was back in the early early 90s 00:03:18.419 --> 00:03:23.099 and and then Got into a band with my brother 00:03:23.099 --> 00:03:25.860 the ruffians Which is kind of an Irish punk Celtic 00:03:25.860 --> 00:03:28.259 punk kind of band and we started that back in 00:03:28.259 --> 00:03:33.460 97 started doing shows in 98 and Been playing 00:03:33.460 --> 00:03:36.409 with that all throughout And this is my first 00:03:36.409 --> 00:03:40.270 solo record. So I grew up with obviously a lot 00:03:40.270 --> 00:03:42.789 of Irish music in the house and things like that. 00:03:42.870 --> 00:03:48.629 And then also my dad loved 50s music, always 00:03:48.629 --> 00:03:51.030 that, and a lot of vocal standards here and stuff 00:03:51.030 --> 00:03:53.449 with barbershop, hearing songs from the 20s and 00:03:53.449 --> 00:03:55.889 the 40s and things like that. Really loved the 00:03:55.889 --> 00:03:58.270 50s music. He always played it. So when I first 00:03:58.270 --> 00:04:02.490 heard the Ramones, Leave Home was like the first 00:04:02.490 --> 00:04:04.129 record that I really heard that I was like, wow, 00:04:04.129 --> 00:04:07.909 this just sounds like 50s music sped up. And, 00:04:07.909 --> 00:04:13.009 you know, really liked that. And then obviously 00:04:13.009 --> 00:04:16.750 got into the Pistols and The Clash and then eventually 00:04:16.750 --> 00:04:21.389 The Smiths and The Cure, Billy Bragg and, you 00:04:21.389 --> 00:04:23.990 know, things like that. And then, yeah, like 00:04:23.990 --> 00:04:25.790 I said, all the Britpop stuff really liked, you 00:04:25.790 --> 00:04:29.230 know, Pulp and Blur, Oasis, Suede, Supergrass, 00:04:29.389 --> 00:04:32.279 all that kind of stuff. Absolutely great sound. 00:04:33.180 --> 00:04:34.680 It's a very exciting time when that all came 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:37.680 out in the 90s. It was. It really put music up. 00:04:37.740 --> 00:04:39.939 I think it was a bit lost. We had that sort of 00:04:39.939 --> 00:04:41.519 dance stuff for Tour Unlimited and that sort 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:43.220 of stuff. And then brick pop came along and it 00:04:43.220 --> 00:04:44.899 was quite a breath of fresh air, I thought. It 00:04:44.899 --> 00:04:46.639 was a great sound for a few years. It really 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:51.379 was. Yeah, it was wonderful. And yeah, and then 00:04:51.379 --> 00:04:53.500 obviously the Pogues and, you know, just Bothy 00:04:53.500 --> 00:04:57.300 Band and Dubliners, things like that. And then, 00:04:57.300 --> 00:05:01.040 yeah, so just kind of that was my I'm sure there's 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:03.319 a million things that influence me that I'm unaware 00:05:03.319 --> 00:05:06.019 of or haven't mentioned, but that's just some 00:05:06.019 --> 00:05:08.500 of the things that kind of come to mind. Well, 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:11.839 I wondered initially, and also looking at your 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:14.779 T -shirt, before I even heard you speak, I was 00:05:14.779 --> 00:05:16.560 actually wondering if you were actually an Irish 00:05:16.560 --> 00:05:19.000 -American anyway, that there might be some quite 00:05:19.000 --> 00:05:22.579 Irish links in the past. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:26.560 we've got pretty much both sides of my family, 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:30.910 pretty strong Irish roots. Is there not more 00:05:30.910 --> 00:05:32.850 Irish people in New York than there is in Ireland? 00:05:33.009 --> 00:05:36.170 Is that a fact? I don't know. If you go back 00:05:36.170 --> 00:05:38.709 to two generations, however many, however many 00:05:38.709 --> 00:05:40.509 generations they take it back to have that link, 00:05:40.610 --> 00:05:42.709 it was something really ridiculous like that. 00:05:43.709 --> 00:05:45.949 Is there not seven million in Ireland or is it 00:05:45.949 --> 00:05:47.769 not that many? I don't know. Anyway, yeah, so 00:05:47.769 --> 00:05:50.430 that's okay. I think Ireland's hovering around 00:05:50.430 --> 00:05:53.709 five million at the moment. And I know there's 00:05:53.709 --> 00:05:58.209 about 400 ,000 people of Irish descent in New 00:05:58.209 --> 00:06:06.259 York City. Between the country, we've got about 00:06:06.259 --> 00:06:12.660 30 million plus. Wonderful. Yeah, so there's 00:06:12.660 --> 00:06:15.399 a lot. Like in London, there's about 800 ,000 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:19.879 people of Irish descent. Yeah, so it's kind of, 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:24.579 you know, it's a good... So sorry. She has to 00:06:24.579 --> 00:06:27.649 say hello. She has to say hello to everybody. 00:06:27.790 --> 00:06:29.850 Now she's seen you. She's great. She's rubbing 00:06:29.850 --> 00:06:32.310 around and around our legs. So there we go. Yes. 00:06:32.410 --> 00:06:37.350 Bless her. That's Twinkle. So sorry. I was thinking 00:06:37.350 --> 00:06:39.829 that one day maybe we just put all the videos 00:06:39.829 --> 00:06:42.750 together of her meeting everybody. It's even 00:06:42.750 --> 00:06:45.250 Susie Quattro and Pete Best of the Beatles. Everybody. 00:06:45.750 --> 00:06:48.550 So you're up there with them. And just Twinkle 00:06:48.550 --> 00:06:50.490 meeting everybody. I just think it'd make a great 00:06:50.490 --> 00:06:57.779 video. Yeah, so, you know, that was it. And still 00:06:57.779 --> 00:06:59.439 enjoying, you know, obviously new stuff, you 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:02.980 know, always trying to hear new people, new things. 00:07:04.279 --> 00:07:06.860 So nice about this record, this solo record has 00:07:06.860 --> 00:07:09.819 kind of forced me to think about this new business 00:07:09.819 --> 00:07:12.240 model with everything being online and social 00:07:12.240 --> 00:07:14.920 media, all that kind of stuff. So, you know, 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:16.639 getting to check out a lot of artists just kind 00:07:16.639 --> 00:07:20.240 of seeing what they're up to. So the Space Girls 00:07:20.240 --> 00:07:26.910 song itself. I must say, you close your eyes 00:07:26.910 --> 00:07:32.329 and the beginning, you could almost, and I was 00:07:32.329 --> 00:07:35.350 saying to Sue, cast yourself back to that era 00:07:35.350 --> 00:07:37.589 of the Beatles towards the end when they were 00:07:37.589 --> 00:07:40.829 sort of getting a little bit adventurous with 00:07:40.829 --> 00:07:42.470 the drug, not so insinuated for a minute you're 00:07:42.470 --> 00:07:44.649 into drugs of course if you were on LSD when 00:07:44.649 --> 00:07:46.490 you're writing it, but it was that sort of era 00:07:46.490 --> 00:07:49.680 of the Beatles and I thought Wow, this is really 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:51.899 psychedelic and great. I've just talked to sound 00:07:51.899 --> 00:07:54.620 effects. To me, that's how I interpreted it because 00:07:54.620 --> 00:07:57.079 people probably interpret it differently. But 00:07:57.079 --> 00:07:59.519 yeah, that was my interpretation of it. I thought 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:02.560 it was really great. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you 00:08:02.560 --> 00:08:04.339 know, just studying music in college, you get 00:08:04.339 --> 00:08:06.240 turned on to all kinds of things, you know, John 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:09.319 Cage and some contemporary Philip Glass and different 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:12.079 things. So I really like the idea of, yeah, sounds. 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:14.100 So we were really trying to go for like a lot 00:08:14.100 --> 00:08:16.199 of that, like just sound effects and different. 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:18.000 different kind of things. There was actually 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:20.279 quite a lot more. Some of it kind of got cut 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:24.600 out, but some of it was a little too wild. Oh, 00:08:24.600 --> 00:08:28.259 it's a shame. Maybe there could be some time, 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:30.959 maybe when you do your vinyl or something or 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:32.879 you do your deluxe version, that could be the 00:08:32.879 --> 00:08:35.179 bonus track sorted. Yeah, I've always worried 00:08:35.179 --> 00:08:36.879 with the radio that they're just going to start 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:38.820 right where the guitar riff comes in and like 00:08:38.820 --> 00:08:40.919 kind of not have that in the beginning, because 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:44.039 some people don't have the attention span, sadly, 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:46.309 to get through four seconds of something. No, 00:08:46.470 --> 00:08:48.690 we'll be playing it. It was great. Well, listen, 00:08:48.769 --> 00:08:51.049 it's a talking point that we've got, so hopefully... 00:08:51.049 --> 00:08:52.970 Maybe the Brits have a different way on their 00:08:52.970 --> 00:08:55.610 radio, because I like a good introduction or 00:08:55.610 --> 00:08:57.429 a little soundbite or something on a song. I 00:08:57.429 --> 00:09:00.529 think it can make it. I mean, it sounded great, 00:09:00.570 --> 00:09:04.169 a lot of 80s songs, but no, I mean, it was great. 00:09:05.009 --> 00:09:06.889 You'll probably find over here it'll probably 00:09:06.889 --> 00:09:09.690 get played in its entirety, because, say, we're 00:09:09.690 --> 00:09:11.850 talking about it, aren't we? You know, it's working. 00:09:12.120 --> 00:09:14.139 It's working. And there's nothing like actually 00:09:14.139 --> 00:09:17.379 having a CD instead of downloading. Well there, 00:09:17.539 --> 00:09:21.399 thank you for saying that. So yes, we've got 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:26.120 in our hands, we've got a beautiful CD album, 00:09:26.659 --> 00:09:30.299 Sean Griffin, People Are Mad. Is it called People 00:09:30.299 --> 00:09:34.620 Are Mad? Well, it's the title track, you know, 00:09:34.659 --> 00:09:37.899 so it is the title track. But yeah, I mean, just 00:09:37.899 --> 00:09:39.740 we're all a little mad, aren't we? I mean, it's 00:09:39.740 --> 00:09:41.600 just, you know, kind of the Irish sense of, you 00:09:41.600 --> 00:09:44.049 know, redundancy of crazy, right? Some version 00:09:44.049 --> 00:09:49.110 of it. Where we grew up, I grew up in Connecticut 00:09:49.110 --> 00:09:51.450 initially. So we were by Danbury, Connecticut. 00:09:51.590 --> 00:09:56.389 And Danbury is known as Hat City. So people who 00:09:56.389 --> 00:10:00.029 were making the hats were always exposed to mercury 00:10:00.029 --> 00:10:03.590 in the dyes. And they would act very crazy. And 00:10:03.590 --> 00:10:07.350 they got known as being the Mad Hatters. And 00:10:07.350 --> 00:10:12.570 that's where they had come from. So it was kind 00:10:12.570 --> 00:10:15.289 of funny. So just that idea of, you know, the 00:10:15.289 --> 00:10:17.289 next town over, it was like the mascot was the 00:10:17.289 --> 00:10:19.590 mad hat or is everything was the mad hat city 00:10:19.590 --> 00:10:21.809 and that kind of thing. So I guess it just kind 00:10:21.809 --> 00:10:24.850 of always planted in me and just, you know, I 00:10:24.850 --> 00:10:27.269 was prone to muttering it under my breath. People 00:10:27.269 --> 00:10:30.470 are mad all the time. It was my way of just not 00:10:30.470 --> 00:10:32.870 going crazy or losing it or yelling at someone. 00:10:33.009 --> 00:10:35.570 I'd just be like. People are mad. You come out 00:10:35.570 --> 00:10:37.129 of it quite well, so there can't be mercury in 00:10:37.129 --> 00:10:40.190 the water as well, so you must be good. Could 00:10:40.190 --> 00:10:42.690 I ask about the lovely picture of your daughter 00:10:42.690 --> 00:10:45.769 on the CD? Oh yeah, that's my youngest, that's 00:10:45.769 --> 00:10:50.169 Maren. So she was in the video for People Are 00:10:50.169 --> 00:10:53.429 Mad. So there's a line in People Are Mad and 00:10:53.429 --> 00:10:56.009 it says, people are mad, people are crazy, from 00:10:56.009 --> 00:10:57.929 the moment you're born till you're pushing up 00:10:57.929 --> 00:11:01.909 daisies. So we use the daisy imagery quite a 00:11:01.909 --> 00:11:06.000 bit. in the record, in the video, and in the 00:11:06.000 --> 00:11:10.299 song. So in the video, she is holding out daisies 00:11:10.299 --> 00:11:13.960 at the end. So we just kind of grab that snippet 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:16.960 and use it. And it's funny because throughout 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:19.860 the video, she's passing out daisies to people. 00:11:20.279 --> 00:11:24.360 So she's also kind of in a way, she's almost 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:27.250 like a little Grim Reaper. Even though she's 00:11:27.250 --> 00:11:29.990 youth. So it's got a couple different things 00:11:29.990 --> 00:11:33.149 in it. There's your youth and the rest of it. 00:11:33.169 --> 00:11:35.909 So there it is. That's Maren. She's my youngest. 00:11:35.909 --> 00:11:38.549 Youngest. She rules the roost here at home. Wonderful. 00:11:38.710 --> 00:11:40.809 You've done yourself proud with the CD. This 00:11:40.809 --> 00:11:43.029 is what a proper CD should be like. You've got 00:11:43.029 --> 00:11:45.570 the lovely picture of you on the front. You've 00:11:45.570 --> 00:11:48.950 got a lovely... Yeah, notes, we say, CD notes. 00:11:49.549 --> 00:11:51.470 Nice monochrome picture, black and white picture. 00:11:51.629 --> 00:11:53.169 That's nice. The first thing I saw was the CD, 00:11:53.230 --> 00:11:56.190 the picture on the CD. Beautiful. Thank you. 00:11:56.230 --> 00:11:57.750 If you pop it off, there's another one behind 00:11:57.750 --> 00:12:06.889 it. Oh! Oh, wow. Hmm. Good. And on the back slope, 00:12:06.909 --> 00:12:10.889 as you know. Oh, there you go. And you also wanted 00:12:10.889 --> 00:12:13.929 to ask about that one. Oh, yeah. Could I ask? 00:12:14.529 --> 00:12:16.029 We'd be thinking all sorts here. It's probably 00:12:16.029 --> 00:12:20.600 obvious, but... Track 80s. JFK. Is it obvious 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:25.360 about JFK or are we just being brutes? It's actually 00:12:25.360 --> 00:12:27.899 about the airport and it's not about the man. 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:33.419 Okay. So it's about summer love on a J -1 visa. 00:12:34.120 --> 00:12:36.460 So kids come over from all over the world to 00:12:36.460 --> 00:12:39.019 the states in the summertime and they get a three 00:12:39.019 --> 00:12:42.320 month visa, working visa and a lot of times summer 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:45.360 love happens. So it's about summer love on a 00:12:45.360 --> 00:12:47.799 J -1 visa and then dropping someone off at the 00:12:47.799 --> 00:12:51.149 airport. That's great at the end of it and then 00:12:51.149 --> 00:12:55.590 this person reflecting back on it and then You 00:12:55.590 --> 00:12:57.169 know as an older person and kind of thinking 00:12:57.169 --> 00:13:00.769 of it But then it builds and and and then the 00:13:00.769 --> 00:13:03.289 person saying come away with me and it gets quite 00:13:03.289 --> 00:13:05.730 You think the song is ending and it really builds 00:13:05.730 --> 00:13:09.070 like quite a bit. We've got great singers in 00:13:09.070 --> 00:13:12.389 it and we've got a harp It's quite orchestral 00:13:12.389 --> 00:13:14.929 almost. And it's the highest note that I sing 00:13:14.929 --> 00:13:18.549 on the record. I sing an E above high C on that. 00:13:18.750 --> 00:13:25.210 one. It's like a yodel almost. The new Frank 00:13:25.210 --> 00:13:31.850 Ifield. That's another talking point. Just JFK. 00:13:32.009 --> 00:13:33.950 So there you go. So there's a British saying, 00:13:34.029 --> 00:13:36.669 JFK, what's that one about? There you go. Perfect. 00:13:37.090 --> 00:13:39.169 So we've got a lovely song and a story out of 00:13:39.169 --> 00:13:41.309 it. Yeah. Yes, it was nice. It kind of ties in 00:13:41.309 --> 00:13:43.909 with the Irish New York scene, which kind of 00:13:43.909 --> 00:13:45.570 I've always been part of. So it kind of pulls 00:13:45.570 --> 00:13:48.370 in, you know, JFK, the imagery and the airport. 00:13:48.509 --> 00:13:52.250 and the whole thing. Wonderful. I'm going to 00:13:52.250 --> 00:13:54.070 say, well I shouldn't say it, but this is the 00:13:54.070 --> 00:13:57.009 best CD we've had brought to us so far and I'm 00:13:57.009 --> 00:14:00.690 being honest, best CD ever. Well packaged, very 00:14:00.690 --> 00:14:04.590 well packaged. Also, even having the package 00:14:04.590 --> 00:14:07.389 so I can put it back in there to keep it in good 00:14:07.389 --> 00:14:09.110 condition. Yeah, it's got a little pocket that, 00:14:09.230 --> 00:14:14.340 isn't that nice? Yeah, brilliant. And I should 00:14:14.340 --> 00:14:16.960 really put my little pin badge on, shouldn't 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:19.580 you, really, for the interview? No, we didn't 00:14:19.580 --> 00:14:25.639 even know this was coming, did we? I like having 00:14:25.639 --> 00:14:28.279 the badges and the stickers and the whole bit. 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:34.759 I'll do it later. So what other singles have 00:14:34.759 --> 00:14:38.480 you got planned from the album? To be honest 00:14:38.480 --> 00:14:41.669 with you, we've done like... We've done five 00:14:41.669 --> 00:14:44.250 singles off the record. Oh, you better tell us 00:14:44.250 --> 00:14:47.549 about them. I guess we started off we started 00:14:47.549 --> 00:14:50.450 off with people are mad and that was that was 00:14:50.450 --> 00:14:53.210 the first one off and we did that we worked out 00:14:53.210 --> 00:14:57.870 for a little bit and then Rocks off number 11 00:14:57.870 --> 00:15:01.049 on there is actually kind of an extra track that 00:15:01.049 --> 00:15:03.509 wasn't with this producer and it wasn't really 00:15:03.509 --> 00:15:06.610 during this record, but I had it sitting around 00:15:06.610 --> 00:15:11.120 and The gentleman who had mixed the album, Paul 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:15.879 Caldery, he had mixed the Pixie stuff and he 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:20.379 also had done Echo Belly and he did the first 00:15:20.379 --> 00:15:25.980 two Radiohead albums. And so I was just like, 00:15:26.580 --> 00:15:29.080 what would you do with this? And he just brought 00:15:29.080 --> 00:15:32.740 it to such a great level. So super guitar heavy. 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:34.720 And we put that out kind of when this whole Oasis 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:37.809 thing was coming back because I don't want to 00:15:37.809 --> 00:15:39.970 toot our own horn. I think it rocks as hard as 00:15:39.970 --> 00:15:44.450 anything they've ever done that track and So 00:15:44.450 --> 00:15:47.429 that was the second single and then be my girl 00:15:47.429 --> 00:15:51.070 we did be my girl is kind of a big It's kind 00:15:51.070 --> 00:15:55.850 of a big power ballad in a way It's about someone 00:15:55.850 --> 00:15:58.990 kind of looking for a permanent relationship 00:15:58.990 --> 00:16:01.610 and Most of their friends are kind of moving 00:16:01.610 --> 00:16:04.370 on with their life and getting married. So we 00:16:04.370 --> 00:16:09.690 did that We're taking a quick break to talk about 00:16:09.690 --> 00:16:12.549 the fuel behind today's episode. 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It takes two 00:18:55.019 --> 00:19:02.339 to tangle And two to present a radio show So 00:19:02.339 --> 00:19:10.099 here's Nick and Sue Your musical duo This is 00:19:10.099 --> 00:19:12.400 Nick and Sue with Cheddar Box Giving you all 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:14.640 you need to know about musical entertainment 00:19:24.090 --> 00:19:27.730 And then we did Space Girls, totally took it 00:19:27.730 --> 00:19:32.630 to a different place. And yeah, Space Girls, 00:19:32.910 --> 00:19:36.490 it's a really tough story. It's kind of autobiographical. 00:19:36.809 --> 00:19:39.789 I mean, every night, amorous space women come 00:19:39.789 --> 00:19:43.309 and take me away in their ship. And it's down 00:19:43.309 --> 00:19:46.390 to me to repopulate their planet. And it's been 00:19:46.390 --> 00:19:50.279 happening for decades now, and it's just... Yeah, 00:19:50.279 --> 00:19:52.240 we're getting there. We got a couple thousand. 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:56.160 All very, very cute, just like my daughter. No, 00:19:56.200 --> 00:20:00.000 but I'm Jeezy. But yeah, so that was the next 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:05.339 one. And then we just had That's All She Wrote 00:20:05.339 --> 00:20:08.500 come out. That one just came out when the album 00:20:08.500 --> 00:20:11.579 was released on the 17th. That's All She Wrote 00:20:11.579 --> 00:20:15.359 was the focus track on April 14th. Oh, wonderful. 00:20:16.099 --> 00:20:19.029 What about Molly? Yes, what about Molly? Molly 00:20:19.029 --> 00:20:25.289 is very much an Irish bar brawl of a song. It 00:20:25.289 --> 00:20:28.009 kind of starts off like a ballad about how this 00:20:28.009 --> 00:20:33.049 person is heartbroken, but then he kind of gets 00:20:33.049 --> 00:20:37.730 worked up and punches the guy and starts dating 00:20:37.730 --> 00:20:40.369 the girl's best friend and flips over the tables 00:20:40.369 --> 00:20:46.869 and yeah, it's a bit of that. What about nothing? 00:20:47.740 --> 00:20:51.779 So nothing is kind of new territory for me. It's 00:20:51.779 --> 00:20:54.799 a very thoughtful, kind of introspective ballad. 00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:57.140 It's about kind of unplugging from the world 00:20:57.140 --> 00:21:00.660 and just having time to yourself and kind of 00:21:00.660 --> 00:21:03.000 shutting things out, not feeling like you have 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:06.660 to do anything. And some people see it as a breakup 00:21:06.660 --> 00:21:09.440 song. I kind of see it as more of a song about 00:21:09.440 --> 00:21:12.160 just stepping away from people who aren't really 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:16.099 doing things in your life that are good. or good 00:21:16.099 --> 00:21:18.420 for you, just kind of unplugging from it, stepping 00:21:18.420 --> 00:21:23.279 back and just saying, yep, I take my time myself. 00:21:23.819 --> 00:21:27.220 This gypsy girl, is there anything, any Irish 00:21:27.220 --> 00:21:30.220 links with gypsy girl? Yeah, sure. Travelling 00:21:30.220 --> 00:21:34.160 people. So that song is about an old man kind 00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:35.819 of at the end of his, towards the end of his 00:21:35.819 --> 00:21:38.400 life. And he's just thinking back to this very 00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:41.680 beautiful, innocent moment he had with a gypsy 00:21:41.680 --> 00:21:45.700 girl where he just saw her and it was just taken 00:21:45.700 --> 00:21:49.400 by her her beauty and this brief encounter he 00:21:49.400 --> 00:21:53.160 did he loved and she she read his his palm and 00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:58.160 she said that he would always love her and But 00:21:58.160 --> 00:22:00.440 the relationship never really was and it just 00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:02.759 you know But he did like he's at the end of his 00:22:02.759 --> 00:22:04.500 life and he's thinking about this and this is 00:22:04.500 --> 00:22:07.140 what's capturing his imagination and kind of 00:22:07.140 --> 00:22:11.380 in his twilight moments and Yeah, so she stole 00:22:11.380 --> 00:22:16.799 his heart and his wallet Yeah. That's a good 00:22:16.799 --> 00:22:19.619 one. Number seven. Number seven. Youth is wasted 00:22:19.619 --> 00:22:23.240 on the young. It's quite tightly. Youth is wasted 00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:27.279 on the young. That song, it was a real development. 00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:30.960 The arrangement, we really worked that one through. 00:22:31.059 --> 00:22:34.200 It had a very different feel and yeah, it was 00:22:34.200 --> 00:22:35.839 just that. I mean, just being a little older 00:22:35.839 --> 00:22:39.640 in life and just realizing like, yeah, these 00:22:39.640 --> 00:22:42.650 are still the best days of our lives. you know 00:22:42.650 --> 00:22:44.890 you look back at the folly of youth and not just 00:22:44.890 --> 00:22:48.089 like the romanticized idea and just like all 00:22:48.089 --> 00:22:50.109 the fumblings and the mistakes and the rest of 00:22:50.109 --> 00:22:52.329 it and just saying you know this is this is a 00:22:52.329 --> 00:22:55.269 great time to be alive now and we have a great 00:22:55.269 --> 00:22:59.650 time of our life ahead of us and um yeah so just 00:22:59.650 --> 00:23:02.589 kind of a bit a bit of that i was lucky lucky 00:23:02.589 --> 00:23:05.049 enough reckless eric sang background on that 00:23:05.049 --> 00:23:09.670 song and that was quite fun have you got a favorite 00:23:09.670 --> 00:23:13.480 on the cd That's kind of like picking your favorite 00:23:13.480 --> 00:23:16.240 child Well, we're both alright because we've 00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:18.220 had this from Chesney Hawkes We're both okay 00:23:18.220 --> 00:23:20.119 because although we don't have any children together. 00:23:20.259 --> 00:23:25.500 We've both got one So we're okay on that so but 00:23:25.500 --> 00:23:29.880 I have I have six I have six Beautiful we got 00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:32.740 three boys and three girls. That's perfect wonderful 00:23:32.740 --> 00:23:35.839 wonderful. Well, that's an album then isn't it? 00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:39.750 Do your children ever sing with you? I mean, 00:23:39.809 --> 00:23:41.710 just kind of at home. We haven't done anything. 00:23:41.910 --> 00:23:45.750 I don't drag them into my stuff because it's 00:23:45.750 --> 00:23:49.349 just not fair to them. They're finding their 00:23:49.349 --> 00:23:52.630 own way. It could happen. You never know. They're 00:23:52.630 --> 00:23:55.250 getting a little older. The boys, the older boys 00:23:55.250 --> 00:23:58.250 are playing the guitar and the piano. I'm just 00:23:58.250 --> 00:23:59.890 going to say I'm sure at least one of them will 00:23:59.890 --> 00:24:03.210 go. It's got a law of averages says one's got 00:24:03.210 --> 00:24:06.190 to at least one's got to follow. It's going to 00:24:06.190 --> 00:24:08.690 be musical gene there somewhere that's naturally 00:24:08.690 --> 00:24:13.309 there isn't it? It's got to be. So Sean Griffin, 00:24:13.450 --> 00:24:17.150 People Are Mad, the album and Space Girls the 00:24:17.150 --> 00:24:19.859 single, they're both out already. as we're talking, 00:24:20.519 --> 00:24:23.200 and we've got a lovely quote here from musicnews 00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:27.200 .com. It's a stunning debut overflowing with 00:24:27.200 --> 00:24:31.680 character, humor, and pure sublimity. It's a 00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:34.720 nice little plug there, isn't it? Nice little 00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:36.539 plug. Yeah, I like that. It's a nice little quote. 00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:40.140 Yeah, I don't take compliments well, so you're 00:24:40.140 --> 00:24:42.039 probably, you know, hiding and turning red here, 00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:48.839 so. I get that. I like that. So, yeah. Brilliant. 00:24:48.980 --> 00:24:52.980 Now, what about coming to the UK to do some live 00:24:52.980 --> 00:24:55.119 stuff? Have you ever done it before? Was it something 00:24:55.119 --> 00:24:57.500 you did? I was over in October. I was over in 00:24:57.500 --> 00:25:00.559 October around the first kind of singles coming 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:05.019 out. I did six shows over in London and that 00:25:05.019 --> 00:25:08.960 was really nice. I'm hoping to get back over 00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:14.970 before fall at some point. That's my hope. Fingers 00:25:14.970 --> 00:25:20.650 crossed. Let's hope, you know, well, if you're 00:25:20.650 --> 00:25:22.730 using Heart Media again, obviously we get the 00:25:22.730 --> 00:25:24.950 press clicks. Yeah, well, hopefully we'll have 00:25:24.950 --> 00:25:27.329 a chat about that. We'll give you dates out and 00:25:27.329 --> 00:25:29.690 things like that then. So, yeah. And if it is 00:25:29.690 --> 00:25:33.690 London again, at least we can make it. We'll 00:25:33.690 --> 00:25:36.630 come and say hi at the same time. Do you have 00:25:36.630 --> 00:25:39.049 any favorite venues there or locals that you 00:25:39.049 --> 00:25:42.640 like? Obviously the Royal Albert Hall's got to 00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:44.960 be the one, so you're working on that one of 00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:48.500 course. I was at the bigger venues, the O2, there 00:25:48.500 --> 00:25:50.599 are some quite good... Well tell you what, there 00:25:50.599 --> 00:25:54.039 is the one that keeps cropping up, that old St 00:25:54.039 --> 00:25:57.000 Pancras Church by King's Cross Station. St Pancras, 00:25:57.099 --> 00:25:59.319 King's Cross St Pancras. Near Hart Media's office 00:25:59.319 --> 00:26:00.799 actually, there's an old church there they've 00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:03.960 turned into a venue. And quite a few of the artists 00:26:03.960 --> 00:26:05.779 we've interviewed are there, have played there, 00:26:05.859 --> 00:26:08.799 or are playing there, so that is a nice sensible 00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:12.259 sized venue. as well. We're doing a hope and 00:26:12.259 --> 00:26:13.920 anchor in Islington, aren't we, next Friday, 00:26:14.099 --> 00:26:15.799 to see somebody else we've interviewed a few 00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:20.539 times. So yes, we are getting a bit old for the 00:26:20.539 --> 00:26:24.440 standing up stuff, of course. Apart from that, 00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:29.279 no. I really like doing shows at three o 'clock 00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:33.369 in the afternoon. We're not that bad yet, but 00:26:33.369 --> 00:26:36.529 I've been to matinees of West End shows. We're 00:26:36.529 --> 00:26:39.710 not quite that bad. I have my afternoon nap then. 00:26:40.009 --> 00:26:42.789 Funny joke. We could go and listen to Sean, then 00:26:42.789 --> 00:26:44.809 in the interview, you've got your daughter coming 00:26:44.809 --> 00:26:48.950 out giving daisies to everyone. Sorry, just that 00:26:48.950 --> 00:26:52.509 image in my head. Check out the video. So if 00:26:52.509 --> 00:26:55.650 you look at our videos, we've done proper... 00:26:56.359 --> 00:26:59.839 music videos for all of the singles. And I have 00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:02.619 to tell you that they're quite the endeavor. 00:27:03.900 --> 00:27:08.519 So if you look at my name, Sean Griffin on YouTube 00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:13.839 or on my web page, which is SeanGriffin .rocks, 00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:18.559 so S -E -A -N -G -R -I -F -F -I -N .ROCKS, then 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:20.299 you can seize the links to some of the videos. 00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:25.059 and you can see what we've been up to. But it's 00:27:25.059 --> 00:27:27.140 been fun making those. Those have been a challenge 00:27:27.140 --> 00:27:28.960 at first for me, kind of getting used to doing 00:27:28.960 --> 00:27:32.200 that and looking at myself and saying, my goodness, 00:27:33.019 --> 00:27:36.019 I didn't know that was happening with me at this 00:27:36.019 --> 00:27:39.259 point. But you know, things, my march is on. 00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:42.160 What does your daughter think? Because her pitch 00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:47.160 is on the CD. Oh, yeah. You know, she hasn't 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:49.119 said much. I mean, I showed it to her. I think 00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:51.859 she was like... slightly surprised but I think 00:27:51.859 --> 00:27:57.619 she was pleased. Well it would be this day to 00:27:57.619 --> 00:27:59.619 the interview before he said goodbye that I would 00:27:59.619 --> 00:28:02.319 say we're doing the social media but you've basically 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:05.599 done it so I think you said Sean Griffin rocks 00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:07.660 but he had chucked at them again so they're all 00:28:07.660 --> 00:28:14.700 ears so yeah so yeah good yeah so yeah my Instagram 00:28:14.700 --> 00:28:20.259 is whatever that is yeah so it's a Griffin g 00:28:20.259 --> 00:28:24.279 -r -i -f -f -i -n dot Sean is my Instagram and 00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:28.039 Yeah, and then as far as yeah, the web page is 00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:33.559 a Sean sen Griffin dot rocks. Yep. So Yeah, thank 00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:36.259 you. And I'm hoping to get maybe vinyl pressed 00:28:36.259 --> 00:28:37.980 at some point. We're kind of waiting. Oh, you 00:28:37.980 --> 00:28:40.099 got cello vinyl, don't you? Oh, yeah. Well, to 00:28:40.099 --> 00:28:44.670 be honest with you Oh, wow Vinyl, isn't it? It's 00:28:44.670 --> 00:28:47.130 just opening a new vinyl. It's like opening a 00:28:47.130 --> 00:28:49.569 decent coffee, isn't it? It's just that smell 00:28:49.569 --> 00:28:51.609 of new vinyl. It's just, it is. It's one of those 00:28:51.609 --> 00:28:54.210 things of a certain era. It really is, yeah. 00:28:54.650 --> 00:28:57.109 Hang on, Bose. I must comment. I love, Nick's 00:28:57.109 --> 00:28:59.170 just gone onto your website and the picture that's 00:28:59.170 --> 00:29:00.809 just come up, I love the pose with your hands 00:29:00.809 --> 00:29:03.109 and your trousers and your, and your, the pose, 00:29:03.250 --> 00:29:05.230 but you're leaning against a brick wall. That 00:29:05.230 --> 00:29:08.650 is beautiful. And of course, yeah, you mentioned 00:29:08.650 --> 00:29:14.900 Sean Griffin Rocks. Sean Griffin dot Rocks. Having 00:29:14.900 --> 00:29:17.740 said that, there's links to all your other social 00:29:17.740 --> 00:29:20.160 media there I can see anyway, so it's all there. 00:29:21.079 --> 00:29:23.819 Brilliant. Sean, wish you every success with 00:29:23.819 --> 00:29:28.279 the singles and the album. I hope you do get 00:29:28.279 --> 00:29:30.400 over it, but every success in general. Hopefully 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:31.880 we can have a chat again sometime. It's been 00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:34.240 great meeting you. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, look 00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:36.319 forward to meeting you when I'm over there. That's 00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:37.900 brilliant. Every successful. Take care, mate. 00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:42.319 Thank you. Thank you very much. Bye. Thank you. 00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:18.700 been listening to the Chatterbox Redux podcast 00:30:18.700 --> 00:30:22.299 with Sir Nick and today our special guest was 00:30:22.299 --> 00:30:24.900 Sean Griffin. 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