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Welcome to the 50th edition of the Chatterbox
Redux podcast and our special guests today are
Tabby and Monty from She's a Machine. This is
Nick and Sue with Chatterbox giving you all you
need to know about music And now in Chatterbox
UK we're just lucky enough to welcome Monty Connor
and Tabby Kirby from She's a Machine. Hi guys,
welcome. Hi guys. Hello, thanks for having us.
We appreciate it very much. Thank you, great
to meet you. Likewise. In real life it is, isn't
it, really, these days? Yeah. Great to meet you
guys. Okay, the simple question is, the easy
question that you're going to get asked all the
time, I know the answer. But why the name though?
Well, can I stop you there? Monty, right, Sue.
How did you come up with a name? We poured over
a couple of names and I had suggested Bad Apple
and I really liked the name and I had a whole
idea where I wanted to go with that name. And
somehow our drummer at the time was guy helped
us with a lot of the recordings and everything,
but he had mentioned she's a machine and we kind
of, you know, Joel and I looked at each other
and Tabby and they're like, yeah, that's a cool
name. And kind of stuck for a minute. But when
I found out it was an Elvis song is what, you
know, I just, for the short answer, I just tell
people, yeah, it's an Elvis song. And I'm a huge
Elvis fan and probably most of the world is an
Elvis fan, but for the, for the short answer,
it was an Elvis song. And it just, And if you
knew Tabby, like we know Tabby, she works, I
mean her work ethic, she does these, um, like
three hour acoustic shows by herself, you know,
solo shows where she plays, she runs her church's,
uh, worship service. So she is a machine. So
we thought, well, it fits the, and it's kind
of a cool, you know, it just sounds, sounds cool.
And you look back through the history of band
names, you know, Yeah, you make the name rather
than the name making the band. So that's what
we figured, you know, if we were just called.
whatever bad apple or yeah, whatever we're called.
I can tell you if you have Tabby Kirby as your
vocalist, you have a really good, you can name
it whatever you want to and you're still in good
shape because that's how much she knows. She
knows we think the world over for sure. Well,
she's a selling point here, isn't she? That's
how we start talking as well. I think I was having
a ladies night and that's how you say, how do
you try to play this? Tabby, our lead singer
is Tabby. She's blah, blah, blah. I don't think
we played that night. But I said, I'm listening
to it. Okay. Well, I nicknamed her the crown
jewel so that I'll tell you what I think of her
anyway. And we met the most crazy kind of just
passing, you know, but here we are. That's the
end game is here we are. So whether this stays
in or not is up to how the answer goes. Are you
expecting an F -bomb or something here when you
preface the question with that? I've got various
buttons here and I don't know what they all do.
Okay, seven seconds, you better be quick. Anyway,
so you got the suggestion from your former drummer.
So it wasn't the case. It could have been any,
any Elvis song. It couldn't have been rock a
hula or some stupid name. Like it can be anything
else or blue Hawaii. It was literally the drummer
said that. And that's how it was. As soon as
he said it, we started thinking, well, tabby
is a bit of a machine because she plays show
after show. You know, you have to be a machine
of some sorts to keep up in a band. But she's
got her, you know, her whole life to live, but
she keeps up with the band. She keeps up with
the praise and worship services she leads. And
you know what I'm saying? She, she is a machine.
So as soon as we heard it, we thought, well,
that fits like a glove. We didn't, we didn't
argue too much about it after that. We just went
with it. It fit. And it was a, just a fortuitous
moment, you know, that we got a good name that
actually fits the. the room yeah and as a twist
yeah and we can use the Elvis you know we can
say if uh if the Elvis is a state starts wanting
a royalty we'll change it to bad apple so oh
and the happy birthday Elvis from the other day
was no absolutely yeah 91 that's right wouldn't
it i think is it 35 he was born i think so but
was it 35 or 36 35 1935 i think so would be 91
yeah 90, he was born in 35 and died in 77. So
what is that? Yeah. Oh, he would have been 42
when he passed. It was 42 when he died. I was
trying to do the line. I remember that happening.
I think if he were still alive and he could draw
a breath, he'd probably be trying to sing or
record or do... Oh, I've done that. And the thing,
the thing I really find, I don't know how long
we're going on talking about Elvis, but he never
made it to... to the UK. Colonel Parker wouldn't
have it. He never left the United States, I don't
think. Anyway, he needed Doc McGee or somebody
better. Anyway, before we move on to the current
line up with you guys, now this drama, I've got
to say it because we spoke off air, this drama
of yours, Not after why he left, but I'll be
going to have a Pete Best moment in like 40 or
50 years time. I hope we have one a lot sooner
than that. I hope we have one in about the next
40 or 50 days. The guy, his name is Ryan C and
it's spelled S -E -A -Y. If anybody should care
to look him up because he's a spectacular drummer,
terribly talented, but he's a... At the time,
he was playing in a couple of tribute bands and
stayed busy and he has young children and so
on, you know, life happens. But he chose the
tribute bands over working with us. So, I mean,
we're still on good terms with the guy. And if
I called him right now and said, hey, man, we
need you or something, he would definitely, I
think he would join us. Bergeron, our current
drummer, is going to be hard. He's our Ringo,
you know, he's our Ringo star for sure. And he's
a young guy, full of energy, very smart, you
know, well -trained musician. Perfect recall.
I can't remember. I can't remember anything,
even songs I wrote myself. And he's like, Oh
no, you remember that transition and it goes
to see, I'm so I'm glad you're here, dude. Cause
I can't remember half the songs, but he's, he's
a brilliant young. Awesome drummer. I've seen
you guys on YouTube videos. It certainly looks
like lively shows that you guys do, so that's
pretty good. Right, so you guys hail from Atlanta,
Georgia, is that right? Atlanta, Georgia. We're
actually scattered all around Atlanta. Tabby
is southwest of Atlanta in a little town called
Rockmark. Northwest. What is it? Northwest. Northwest.
I'm sorry. Well, anyway, Joel, we're all like
scattered around Atlanta. We're all maybe 50
miles, 40, 50 miles out of Atlanta. But we, you
know, we, if you go in there and say, Oh, she's
a machine from Swanee, Georgia, people are gonna
say, where are you aware? So we just, we, we're
in the outskirts of Atlanta, but we're close
enough to call it Call it home, I think. And
50 miles being scattered around in the US is
nothing, is it, to us? No, no, no. 50 miles that
we drive. Right, right. You'll be in three different
countries. Yeah, across the whole UK. Yeah, Tabby
drives as far to rehearsal as it is across England,
I think. Tabby drives the farthest, being the
machine. She has the newest car and drives the
farthest. I guess that's some kind of balancing.
Okay, so how do we get together? I don't mind
who grabs it. Whoever speaks first gets the mic.
You're both on the ball, so it's not like...
Well, Tabby, you go for it. Tabby, you tell her.
See if it's accurate with my story. Maybe I need
to know. You guys are brilliant. So take it away,
Tabby. How did it all start? How did I...? I
agree with She's a Machine. How did that start?
See that body language when she said that, how
did I get with She's a Machine? No, honestly,
well, like Monty was saying, I was gigging south
of Atlanta and a Facebook message came in and
I was like, okay, I don't know who this guy is.
Um, we laugh about it now, but we had talked
about him coming to one of my other gigs that
was closer To where he was and uh kind of in
between the two of us And I had completely forgotten
about it And then I left and my mom happened
to be there and called me and she said Did you
tell some guy that you were gonna meet him here?
And I was like what and then I was like, oh no
Oil spotted on our first Yeah, I got the oil
spot on the first first meeting. Yeah, and so
I had I had I was gone so Right, well, you know
it was a public place and it was you know, it
wasn't like hey Let me meet you and you know,
and I brought my wife with me. So she she's like
that girl's leaving You know, I watched her perform
for about an hour and I thought man if we can
get this girl to sing with us. I said, we got
it made. I said, we got, and I was just so excited
about the prospect of it. And she finished up
her three hours. She's like, I'm Tabby Kirby.
Thanks a lot. And you know, everybody's clapping
is kind of a little outdoor restaurant type patio
thing and saying brilliantly. And I was so excited
to meet her and talk to her afterwards, puts
her guitar in her case, starts closing everything
up. And I thought, well, she's packing her gear
and she'll come back and we'll sit down and have
a talk. A few minutes went by, 20 minutes went
by. I said, this chick's not coming back. So
I told my wife and I knew, I recognized that
that was her mom, you know, and I went over and
I said, well, I've introduced myself. And I said,
I'm supposed to meet Tabby about, you know, working
on some songs together. She said, Oh honey, she's,
she's long gone. So, but anyway, I, tenacity
is probably my strong suit. So I just followed
up and we got it together, but it was kind of
a funny. I thought, well, I'm off to a bad start
with her, but anyway. No, we laugh about it now.
But, you know, after that, you know, you know
what we met at Joel's house after that. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. And I think that bowl move too. Cause
Joel lives out in the middle of nowhere. And
I invited her. I said, we've got an awesome studio
and Joel's very well known guy. You know, he
played for collective soul for about. 12 or 13
years and has an awesome fan base. So it wasn't
like I was asking her to come to, you know, some
completely unknown destination, so to speak,
but she came over, but I wouldn't have gone.
If somebody invited me to go out to McDonough,
Georgia at nighttime, I'd have probably had to
take, take somebody with me, but she showed up
and thank God for it. And that's when we recorded
Undone. That's right. That's exactly right. Yep.
So I like one of our first meetings, we recorded
Undone. So that was pretty cool. Yep, that's
awesome. If everybody should be so lucky. There's
a song title there for sure. Yep, yep. Let me
write that down. As you say, get that one down,
you know. Give Nick half credit on that song
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You could actually do a song Well, she's a machine
in it, not an album. Oh yeah. We've got, we,
we actually have one called like a machine that
we're working on now, which is a play off of
the play off of it. And also we have a song called
bad apple that I wrote, you know, when I was
thought we were going to close in on the bad
apple, use the bad apple name, but, um, I've
actually grown to like the song more. than I
did using it as a band name. The song is very
straightforward, hard rock. And I mean from the
jump, you know, it's straight into the meat of
it from the jump. So I think Bad Apple as a song
title may be better than, you know, for the band
name. But anyway, Bad Apple, you know, band name,
song title, I'll take it either way. Well, let's
send it across to us. Yeah, I just sent you two
songs just before we got on here. You know, you,
you hear one song from a band and it's like,
well, you know, what else are they capable of?
I sent a couple more and we're working on them.
We have to work on these things. You know, we
can all, it's hard for all five or six of us
to get together. And, uh, you know, everybody's
scheduling, Terry plays in a couple of different
projects and you know, it's just always something.
you know life you have to you have to put life
over here and go do your music and then come
back and you know resume resume what you do during
the day yeah we have a bit of that we have to
sometimes make sure that radio and uh and and
life doesn't cross of course we do everything
at home yeah I don't club DJing on it. I've retired
from all that these days. But yeah, so everything's
at home. So you do have to be careful. We have
to make sure, don't we? And then, of course,
I do have to work for a living. You know, I don't
have to pay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If we were if
we were surviving on what original musicians
make, I would have probably been dead about maybe
a decade ago because original, you know, back.
And I hate to harken back on things, but without
a physical product is extremely I'll look at
the streams, you know, we have songs on there
and I'll look at the streaming and go down that
column and look and think, oh boy, only, you
know, you got enough there to hope, Tabby and
I were hoping to buy a couple of Mercedes. I
think we've, we've almost got enough. We've almost
got enough in there to buy a model car. Half
a million streams. Yeah, half a million streams.
You got enough to maybe go one bag at the grocery
store. If you're lucky. That's exactly right.
But it's, you know, I love it more than anything.
I mean, I can just tell you, we all do, or we
wouldn't be doing it, but it's, it's beyond being
about the money. I work what I do for a living
to support my music habit. And that's what I
tell my friends and they're like, well, I can
understand, but it's to be able to just start
with a blank page, put some words down, think
of a melody, share that with your bandmates,
let them expound on it. work on it and then all
of a sudden you're out in front of a crowd playing
it. I mean, that's the pay. That's the pay of
it. Or getting to do interviews with people in
the UK. That's as big of a deal as the money.
I could just quit music and do my job and probably
make more. I'd much rather be playing music,
making nothing. My family might... I don't think
otherwise, though. It's a question for both of
you. What do your partners think of your music
career? Debbie? Yeah, right. I don't think...
My wife, I'll go first, has been extremely, extremely
supportive from the word go. We've been together
for a long time and married for a long time and
not one time has she... You know, tried to ask
me to quit or, you know, ask me, she just follows
along, loves the music. She's a music fan. So
if you marry somebody that's a music, music person,
you'll stand a lot better chance of your longevity.
Well, uh, very, I'm just, I'm just going to make
the short answer. She's very supportive, extremely
supportive. That's good. How about you? If you
can answer that for us, please. Oh, well, I'm
single, so. Have you got a cat? Is that okay?
Yeah. She gets no argument from her partner at
the moment. Right. Exactly. Although I do have
two girls, so, you know, I just kind of juggle
life around them and sometimes they get. They
get to come with me to cool, cool gigs. And,
you know, sometimes, you know, like, uh, what
was it last summer? We got to go to Florida a
couple of times. We've got to be on the beach.
We got to play on the beach. You know, it's,
it's some cool, some cool things that they've
been able to be a part of. And so they enjoy
it. One of our first gigs, one of our first performances
with the band was, uh, It's a little small festival,
but it was, you know, still a festival nonetheless.
And that was Tabby's first performance with us.
And I noticed her daughters, you know, it's this
big, huge festival stage thing. And her daughters
were, you know, wonderful. I think, I think they
are. I think proud might be an understatement.
They were the youngest one, especially she was
like looking up like, holy cow, that's our mom
up there. But you see your mom, you know, as
a mom, then you see your mom up on the stage,
you know, railing and Joel and I flanking her
and Julio on each side, you know, wailing on
the songs. It's, uh, I think they're proud of
her. So her two, her two built -in partners,
I think are very proud of her. At least they
know, at least they don't embarrass anything
mom does. At least they're proud. That's good.
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my children are the ones that i think are the
embarrassed and they're grown they they they
wonder about their dad sometimes but they're
very supportive You know, in their own way, I'll
put it that way. My youngest son kind of keeps
me in check most of the time. My daughter, I
think my daughter might be secretly a fan of
mine. She tries to act like she's too cool for
it, but I think she likes it. There's some quite
famous musicians, kids can be. Embarrassed and
all that. We've got to say about Robbie Williams
the other week who just got his 17th in the UK,
got his 17th studio album, number one. Yeah,
I love him. He's awesome. the kids and he said
oh I said to one of the kids he said well that's
that's the broken the record 17 number yeah the
kids turned around said yeah only in the uk though
dad yeah yeah that's not good enough yeah not
good enough yeah yeah he's uh I'm a big fan so
he's got at least one fan over here in the United
States he's done well he's awesome he's Timeless
kind of, you know, his music is this timeless
kind of thing. Right. It's grown up with it and
it's grown around him. He's grown around the
music and it's just, yeah. That's the biggest
teenage response though. Yeah. Yeah. Only in
the, yeah. The one good thing about my two sons
are they make good body guards. They're both
huge muscle bound guys. So we look good when
we walk up with them. We look like we have our
own security security team. Almost many black,
is it almost? Uh, I think, I think they snap
those two and I think over overall, I don't think
we have anybody in our circle that, you know,
Julio's girlfriend is completely supportive and
You know, when we play shows, everybody promotes
the show and everybody's all, you know, wanting
to hear the new songs and help us. So I don't
think anybody in our extended circle has anything,
you know, we don't get much resistance to what
we're doing. It could change at any moment, but
so far so good. Sure. Now you told me you sent
some CDS stuff, which we're filtering when we
edit anyway. Yeah. uh awesome new songs now most
of the stuff i've seen online from you is live
stuff so uh is is the i mean is there many studio
singles out there or is there enough to do an
album or we work we we have enough in the works
right now to do a either a really awesome ep
or if we buckle down we could have an album's
worth in no time but it goes back to the timing
issue joel is our producer and helps co -write
and plays guitar on these things. He's a brilliant
songwriter and exceptional guitar player. So
it's just like we work at his studio and it's,
you know, trying to get us all in there at one
time is the biggest problem. But as far as backlog
or song, you know, we've got enough to... I'm
sure if we just buckle down today, we could have
an album, you know... We got, there's plenty
out there. It's just not recorded. And the video
wise, we're trying to get started on the video
for Undone right now. And currently in Georgia,
we have about two or three inches of snow on
the ground. So I don't know if today would be
a good day to start production on it, but we're
working on it. It all comes down to just having
time. I mean, it just really is just about, you
know, all of us have something, a life and a
family to look after. And it's just. You know,
if we were out there with just time, buckets
of time to work with, we'd have all this completed
by now. But the songs are, everybody's extremely
excited about it. We played, you know, we played
all of them live. So at least, you know, we've
got the pleasure of getting to share them in
a live performance, but we're anxious to get
this stuff out there for sure. I mean, it's...
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a little bit, put you on the spot a bit. I'll
just say, we get you two guys to come back in
six months time. All the end of the summer, so
we're getting into autumn, into the fall or whatever.
So we've got the majority of the year out of
the way. And what would you like to be telling
Sue and myself that you've actually achieved?
I would like to... tell you to come pick us up
at the airport in London. That's, that's what
I really want to be telling you. And Tabby can
back. Yeah. It's, uh, that is probably an album.
I'm trying to, yeah, an album. Yeah, the album.
We've had some good shows put together. We've
got some music videos out. We have a load of
merch and we are headed your way. Headed your,
no, we're already there. Yeah. If they're speculating
or, you know, but uh, I don't know. It's always
been, I was trying to think if there's anything
higher on my bucket list than to perform in the
UK. And I don't think there is. What about a
venue? If I could just get there and step off
the plane and say, okay, I'm here, hit one big
power cord and go home. I could at least say
I did. You know, we're, we're primarily looking
for For us to come over cold and just try to
do anything, you know, I don't know what that
would have, if it would do us any good. We want,
when we come over there, we want to make sure
we're either in a support position, you know,
opening for somebody that's touring where we
can work in with them. But I mean, I would do
it. And I know Tabby would do it. We could go
over there with our, you know, busk. Then what
do y 'all call it? The tube? The tube and busk.
But we would love to come over. And, and perform
soon. And that's, I've always been a huge fan
of all, you know, I think when you're in the
United States, you like all the bands that come
out of the UK and vice versa, but it's, um, that's
just been my goal to get there. So, uh, in addition
to what Tabby said, the album, the videos, you
know, the merchant and on and on and to get across
there and. and perform in the UK. I mean, if
anybody out there is listening that's a booking
agent or a tour manager, you know, she's a machine
is available. Let's do it. get some sort of a
video reel together with a few of the songs and
things on. It sounds good, not tinny like you're
in. I don't mean you sound tinny, but I mean,
when you're doing a live stream. Yeah, you want
a board recording if you're doing a live performance.
Something like that will make it sound like really
good. We've got the studio stuff, but the pictures
of you, Phil. Let me have that. I always send
it around, but it doesn't mean... See, the thing
is, yeah, I know people, but the point is, it
doesn't matter who you know, at the end of the
day, it's only if they're looking for someone
at that time. It's only as good as that. It's
all timing and luck. I mean, you can say what
you want to because I know some brilliant, brilliant
musicians. I mean, I could just... Where I live,
I could go right down the road, my neighbors
and... awesome drummer. You don't have to go
far, but it's not necessarily what you know as
much as who you know, unfortunately. You can
be the most brilliant guitarist, pianist, vocalist,
whatever you want to bring to the table. And
if you just don't, you know, if X and Y don't
cross there somewhere, it's just you're never
out there. And you have to keep that X and Y
going some way. And it boils down to tenacity
and timing is what timing to me timing to us
is important yeah maybe timing and tenacity and
tabby since we're on the tee go tabby in there
with it sometimes i mean we rarely ask people
on there normally we get approached by all levels
of you know whoever they are even a and b listers
but in the earlier days was this more the early
days and we were this is how i learned about
timing you're never out of your depth, but it's
all to do with timing. Now that person's got
that album out, you drop that email at that time
when they need to be doing it. And if they don't
go on BBC Radio 2, Chatterbox is the biggest
thing they can get. And it is. And yeah, and
we learned that, didn't we? Because we start
thinking, my god, we've got so and so, we've
got that. And we think, but no, it's timing.
We're offering service, we're offering a chat
show. Yeah, but they're not going to come on
and waste their, but they've got something to
sell or an album or a book. That's when they
come on. Just all dropping it at the right time.
Yeah. Yeah. It's like you guys, when you get
taken up to support somebody in the UK, it's
that, it's just that, that, that real landing
that day, isn't it? It is. No matter. One thing
in this business, you've had to have the thickest
Skin and tabby can tell you One half of my body
has thick skin, but if you get me on the wrong
day on the wrong day But you have to be able
to take no for an answer. You have to be resilient
bounce back However, you want to put that but
you will hear no Even if you're great, you know
if you're out there the food fighters or the
killers or Billy Eilish or somebody Nobody's
gonna tell you no but leading up to that kind
of level you're gonna hear no a lot more than
you hear yes and i mean it just you put all your
stuff together your photo and your video reel
and your studio songs and hand it to somebody
and you're just like nah you know and it's you
have to just say well let me brush that off and
you know get on with the next yeah we just we
once we got an example uh couple years three
years ago of somebody that appeared on the Ed
Sullivan show in the 60s more than once uh we
approached We got shunned quite badly. Oh yeah.
When it came to the second song coming out and
Radio 2 didn't want to know, they came crawling
to us. Are we going to have them on or not? He
said yeah, go on, we're good my child. It's been
something that's had masses of number ones in
the 60s. His initials aren't Tom Jones, is it?
No. Didn't come from Wales, no. Well, I'm a huge
fan. I go back and watch. all, I mean, I'm a
sucker for all those, like the Ed Sullivan and
even on up through the seventies, like the Burt
Sugarman's Midnight Express and all those shows.
I am just like a complete sucker for those things.
So I'll figure out who you're talking about.
You're working out two years ago. So get your
historian in Liverpool to work out who was bringing
stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Frank, probably having lunch
with him right now. Yeah. Let's do social media.
Tell them about what social media. Let's do the
social media for this time. The socials are all
like, um, Facebook, Instagram, obviously YouTube.
Um, and we're just, we have the machine .com.
We got the .com. Yeah. And then, um, And so that's
um, I think monies here recently posted about
more more shirts Yeah, yeah as well and so So
we've got that and we post when you know, we're
recording and where our shows are and you know
We've got some some other plans in the works,
you know, I think we've even talked about Introducing
all of our pets, you know stuff like that and
just kind of get to know you type stuff says
we're introducing Ourself to the world, you know,
let them know a little bit more Right, thank
you very much. It leaves me to say, uh, Tammy
Kirby and Monty Connor, thank you so much for
coming on Chatterbox. Thank you for having us.
Let's do it later in the year, shall we? That
was fantastic. That's awesome. All right. We
appreciate it very much. And thank you so much.
Thank you. Bye -bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Take care.
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