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is Morris Gibson, Nick Endicott's Gib. This is
Nick and Sue with Chatterbox giving you all you
need to know about musical entertainment. Oh
yeah, Chatterbox! now in chatterbox uk we're
just lucky enough to welcome nick endicott gibb
nick welcome how are you sir hello hello i'm
good thank you thanks for having me on great
to be here thanks for coming yes um looks like
quite a fantastic show the best of the bg shows
coming to the uk this september it is yeah and
you are morris gibbs son part of the lineup includes
Deborah McLean who is Barry Gibb's niece that's
right now quite a story i mean i've talked about
how you got to australia and that gig there and
how how this last bit's taken place but let's
talk about in your own words Morris Gibb how
you found out he was yours it's quite a story
so let's hear it from you oh yeah it's great
yeah it's really I was adopted at 18 months old
and you know through life I've been a musician
all my life singing since I was six and I always
had a passion for music and you know I always
knew I was adopted and you know good family but
yeah after I found my birth mother which was
back in 2003, she used to work in the industry,
the music industry, she was a studio manager,
knew everybody from Jimi Hendrix to the Beatles,
you know, as everyone did then, everyone knew
each other when you were in the industry, and
connected with her, and a bit of a funny story
because she originally told me that someone else
was my father and I got to know him for a couple
of years once I found him which took a little
little while and we decided after a couple years
to do a test and it came back that he wasn't
my father after two years of getting to know
him so that was a bit of a shock and so going
back to my birth mother she you know said it
was always him and she didn't understand it and
uh wasn't really much help um but uh then on
a visit to my my auntie her sister up in Scotland
um I told her that you know the guy wasn't my
father and um she said well well I know who it
is then if it's not him and uh which was another
shock um especially as uh you know how come you
know and my birth mother doesn't you know this
seems a bit odd um so uh yeah she she basically
told me it was morris gibb and um uh then it
was a case of really researching and um through
the years to find out if it was true um yeah
i wrote to the family the gibb family numerous
occasions uh didn't really get any any response
or help with that um and it was only until I've
been putting my DNA on all the sites I could
and trying to find out as much as I could because
I didn't only want to know if it was true but
I was getting older, I wanted to know about my
health, I wanted to know about my identity, where
the music came from because none of my family
were musical so I always had that need to know
for me why I was the way I was. So after putting
my DNA on all these sites, eventually I found
out I could put it on ancestry .com. And that
was only back in 2019. And immediately came back
that I matched 100 % as half sibling with Morris's
other son, Adam Gibb. Who was on on the site
and there's other cousins on the site as well
and other family members and matched with all
of those as well So I finally got the the confirmation
wonderful wonderful, but of course, it's been
you know It seems at some point you've been accepted
because obviously you are on this best of the
media show with Deborah Barry good piece and
that so that's the next stage and I must make
make one comment of course There was obviously
definitely some musical talent in the gene pool
there because quite naturally because I seen
you up there on those clips like where the venue
in Bath is promoting you and everything else
and Yeah, yeah, you're there. You got it. So
Definitely the genes there so it was a real Honour
to be asked to be honest. Deborah I've been connected
with since I got the confirmation, because she's
Lesley's daughter, the heir elder sister of Bee
Gees. And she suggested we get together and see
if we can do some music, which we did. We did
a version of Tragedy, which we put out. Very
different version, if you want to check it out.
And we sort of been connected, wrote some stuff
together. And she got involved with the best
of Bee Gees about a couple of years ago. and
um you know had mentioned me and um and then
i got a call from the producer and um was offered
a ticket out there to to meet my my biological
family for the first time and uh it was absolutely
overwhelming you know i couldn't believe i was
actually going i couldn't believe it was happening
even when i was there i couldn't believe i was
there you know and actually sitting face to face
with them Debbie that I'd only seen on a screen
before and and meeting Leslie, you know, for
the first time and she was lovely. They're all
lovely. I met other cousins. It was a real. real
emotional time for me and and and an amazing
time for me um and of course they the best the
Bee Gees had had shows going on and Deb was was
part of that as a guest vocalist and they asked
if I wanted to sing a song in the show and one
of Morris's songs so I um I sung sung a song
I of course yeah that I thought this is great
yeah why why not it's sort of Evolved really
from there. They're lovely lovely people the
Best musicians I've ever worked with they they're
they're all top -level musicians incredible What
they do and and and how how the show is put together
so professional Yeah, and and they basically
said look we've got some more shows coming up
In the UK. We're coming over for a four -date
little mini tour in in the autumn Did I fancy
being involved? And of course, what an opportunity
to sing the songs of my family. It's incredible.
I take it I'm right in thinking, because you
obviously went over to us. I mean, after the
Isle of Man in the early days and sort of around
Manchester, Andy was actually born in Australia
as well. They all grew up and spent a lot of
years in Australia, didn't they? I think they
all grew up there as a family. And I believe
they hit Australia first with a wonderful little
song that failed to chart in the UK, but it's
called Spicks and Specks. Yes. Yes. What a lovely
song. Very simple with those two notes or whatever.
I love it. It's one of the first BG songs I ever
heard and I love it and I've played it from time
to time on our live shows. What a great song.
They were doing so much in Australia before coming
over to the UK, you know, as kids, you know,
what they achieved before even coming. coming
back i'd say to the uk is um is really quite
a quite a feat and to write songs like you know
morning of my life uh you know one of the early
early songs barry was only about 14 then i think
when when he wrote the lyrics are just so so
clever and for someone of that age and Well,
all of them, the harmonies and everything they
were doing, there's so much talent there at an
early age, it's unbelievable. And what a cool
name, something so simple, the Bee Gees from
the Brothers Gibb. How simple, but how great.
One of the greatest sounding group names of all
time, the Bee Gees. Well, they came over to make
it in the UK or to try the UK out and as a five
piece, you know, and like a lot of bands were
trying to do at the time, trying to get in there,
there was a scene going on, especially with what
the Beatles were doing. And it really happened
quite quickly for them, you know, they came over
in 67 and it was late 67, I think that it all
hit. it off. And well, that was the time I was
conceived. Yeah, Morris was only was only 17.
Yeah, sure. He's only 17 at the time. So it was
it was before Lulu or anything. And then and
just before they actually made it really big,
you know, and of course, in no time. Massachusetts,
of course, was number one that year. Right. Yeah.
You're a little bit ahead of me, I'm born in
69, but we're all the same era really. I love
the way you said you were conceived during all
that and prelude. Summer of love, yeah. Very
good. A good year for music, of course, of course.
So here's Nick and Sue, your musical duo. This
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Chatterbox! Chatterbox! Chatterbox! Okay, so,
this tour. Now, the best of the Bee Gees show.
Now, obviously, we've discussed that, obviously,
Deborah's in it. Now, my understanding is that
it's the only official Bee Gees show that exists
now. Unless, of course, Barry goes and does his
own shows, of course. It is the only Bee Gees
show, per se, as in being official. So, I take
it that Barry... It's been officially endorsed
by the family. Leslie Gibb, Leslie Evans, I should
say, she's endorsed it. It's the only show with
family members in as well. They did have Colin
Peterson for a bit until he sadly passed about
a year or so ago, who was the original drummer
with the Bee Gees. But yes, it's the only officially
endorsed Bee Gees show. going that's fantastic
that's fantastic okay so our listeners they get
their tickets they go to Bath or they go to wherever
to see to see the show this this September and
what will they get are they going to get the
disco hits are they going to get the story of
the Bee Gees are they going to get early stuff
what they're going to be getting they're going
to get an amazing show it's the best show I've
ever seen or heard that it's as close as you
can get to the real thing. I mean no one will
beat the VG's, no one will ever. um you know
do that again or be as talented as that again
i believe um but it is a fantastic show um you're
going to have hits from it's called the greatest
hits so it's it's going to be early songs uh
right through to um you know the saturday night
fever and um and you know and and grease and
other other songs done by other other people
that they wrote for um in there as well included
immortality So you're going to get a whole varied
set of all the great songs. As much as you can
fit in, there's so many of them, into the hour
and a half to two hours of the show, yeah. Yeah,
I mean, I'm not just the disco stuff. I'm not
just the early stuff. And I mentioned Spicks
and Specs and some of that really Jay Mintbrook
features as well. Another very early song from
Australia, but some of the later stuff as well.
But I know Sue's got a favorite and she's going
to ask you if you've got that in the show, is
it? I've got a comment first of all. Your eyes
are the same as your dad's eyes. I don't know
if you've been told that, but in the photos you've
got the same eyes. I, yeah I have. You're right
actually yes. I can see various things, you know,
I mean, even mannerisms, I think, you know, and
I'll giggle apparently the same, you know, things
I've obviously never known through my life. I
see me as me because I've always been used to
me and I've never had any anything or anyone
to compare or reference rather to. But yeah,
I can see there's a bit of a forehead and eye
thing going on. Yeah, it's, it's really strange
to, to see that after years of, you know, I mean,
I'm 57 now. So, you know, yeah, it's, it's, it's,
you know, it's, yeah, very strange to see likenesses
and things so so late in life. But yeah, yeah,
I can see season, I can see bits and pieces of
Robin, here and there as well, especially when
I was younger. You know, we will change a little
bit as we grow my, my My face is a little bit
narrower and you know as you're growing up and
I definitely had the robin chin going on But
uh, yeah, it's uh, yeah, there's there's bits
and pieces. I do look a lot more like my mother
though I must admit my favorite song and I do
say this one. I do apologize whom the bells toll
Oh, okay. Can you sing it the same? Have can
you do it even do you do it the same? I never
sung it myself. We don't actually do that in
the show, in this particular show. But yeah,
it is, of course, one of the best songs they
wrote, one of a lot of people's favorites. But
you're going to get all the other favorites in
the show. Night Fever. Yeah, and Debbie and I
are doing a duet of First of May, which was one
of their old original songs, but Maurice did
do that with Lulu on her, I think it was an audience
with, and we're doing a similar sort of thing
there as a duet, me and Debbie, which is amazing.
To sing with her live is... is overwhelming.
It's an incredible experience. Can you get those
high notes? Do you know, I used to a bit when
I was younger, but yeah, not so much now. I've
never really been a falsetto kind of guy, really.
But yeah, I used to sing, when I was younger,
I used to sing really quiet. My voice is sort
of a higher register. not not particularly falsetto
but um yeah definitely when i was younger i would
i could sing really quite high but uh now i'm
a little bit a little bit older for that now
so it's a little bit it's not as easy as it used
to be the promos nothing seems out of place on
the promos it all sounds perfect and good so
whatever so what everyone's going to be listening
sounds perfect and spot on so yeah yeah there's
four shows some bath Portsmouth, Cambridge and
Northamptonshire at the moment. And that's all
in September? Oh you say at the moment so could
we be adding to them perhaps? Or would there
be any near us? No, it's a promo show but there's
plans hopefully to come back at a later stage
and do a bigger tour if it all goes well. Well
let's hope so because we're not that far from
the Brighton Centre so that's a nice venue to
be going to. That's quite a nice big one isn't
it? 5 ,000 something like that yeah so that's
where we would like to be seeing you. Of course
we'll be promoting this and talking about it
on our shows as well. Thank you very much. I
think it's absolutely brilliant that you've been,
not only did you find out... your Morris Gibson,
but to be accepted by the family as well. Leslie's
been so great once it was all confirmed. I think
that's really good. Yeah, it's lovely. Leslie's
was open arms to find out she had a new nephew
and Debbie's been absolutely great. I've now
met other cousins, our first cousins, which I
only knew about recently through the recent years.
then finally meeting them was great. Yeah, it's
lovely to have the confirmation, you know, and
the closure really of knowing finally, you know,
my identity after so long, yeah. Musically, I
mean, you were a musician naturally anyway. What
were you doing with your music career? I mean,
what level was it? Was it busking? Was it recording?
Were you bringing stuff out? Were you touring?
Yeah, i've had various bands through the years
i've been singing like I said i've been singing
since I was six No, um taught myself guitar and
nine drums um everything I just Wanted to do
I had a real passion to to learn so I I basically
just taught myself anything I could singing obviously
all the way through. I've always loved singing
and yeah I've formed various bands and played
a lot of festivals, supported a lot of people
through the years and but I also have a love
of production. which Morris also was, you know,
key in with the Sound of the Bee Gees. He was
very heavily involved with the production side
of things and had a passion for that. And I've
always had that. So, yeah, I love recording.
I've worked with people in the past and produced
people and done albums with people and for people.
Yeah, it's always been my life. It takes two
to tangle, and two to present a radio show. So
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I mean, have you met or spoken to or had a zoom
conversation or anything with Barry Gibb at all?
No, not yet. Hopefully in the future. But he's
he's doing OK. He's the king of the Gibb family,
isn't he? He rules the roof. But he's there.
I know one thing. he approves because if he didn't
approve this wouldn't be taking place so because
he's a perfectionist isn't he after all so yeah
i've heard he's definitely approves uh the show
uh of course leslie um and uh yeah it'll be it'll
be lovely to connect with him at some stage um
yeah uh so uh we'll see we'll see we'll see how
it goes i think i think he likes it in the sunshine
is he florida somewhere he's in the sunshine
and good luck to him yeah best place to be in
the sun i think you know i mean he he has arthritis
i've got arthritis i have to deal with uh it's
not nice and um you know definitely um you know
you feel it when the weather changes so to be
in a warm climate is is the best thing to do
yeah definitely i totally agree i've got it in
my knees i totally agree with what you're saying
yeah Living in a cold seaside town on the south
coast, yeah, it doesn't help. Nick, I'm going
to ask you a lovely important question. Have
you thought of writing a book about your story?
Because it's an amazing story. There's something,
yes. I think it could be a book, definitely.
Yes, I've thought about that side of things.
you know, it will take quite a while to get everything
together and then to put it down. I'm not really
a writer or an author. You know, there are people
that do that, I think. Yeah, I think if there's
anyone interested in doing that, I'll be up for
discussing that it's, you know, it is quite a,
it's quite a story. I mean, I'll tell you something
actually, which also, you know, is quite remarkable
that when I was growing up, in the 70s in the
Ashdown Forest, a little village in the Ashdown
Forest. I was in the woods every day and you
know it was a sort of countryside upbringing.
Maurice married Yvonne in Haywood's Heath which
was hardly about 10 miles maybe from where I
was going out and bought a house in Dane Hill.
And Dane Hill is seven miles away from where
I was growing up as a child. So there's my real
father. Not only is my real father, but someone
as successful as Morris, who could be living
anywhere in the world, have a house anywhere
in the world or be anywhere. And he happens to
be living at one particular time in the 70s,
seven miles away from me. You can't make it up.
And it's things like that, which just is, you
know, to me, unbelievable, you know, how that
happened, you know, and obviously I never knew
anything about him at the time or anything or
where I was from. Fantastic. So write the S down
for us. So no doubt you nothing to do the interview
at all, but no doubt you've at one point or another,
you played poo sticks at the real poo bridge,
no doubt, did you? Oh, of course. Yeah, of course.
I've never done that. I took my son there once
as well. You have to do it, don't you? You can't
live up there and not go there, you know, and
go on, you know. Yeah, absolutely. Everybody
did. We all had our little we all had our pouch
of sticks. Yes, absolutely. We've never done
it. I will take you in the summer because we're
only Hastings, it's not a million miles away.
I will take you to play Poo Sticks and we'll
have something to eat there and we'll come back.
The Ashdown Forest is lovely, especially in the
summer. It's just a beautiful place, lots of
lovely woods and walks and things. Absolutely.
Before we let you go and we do social media,
what is, dare I ask you this, what is your favourite
BG song? What's your favourite BG song and which
one do you prefer singing? You know, I like a
lot, I've come to respect and understand their
songs so much more now. You know, being involved
with, you know, obviously, talking with Leslie
and Debbie, but also, you know, the best of the
Bee Gees and how they go about the songs and
what they're doing. you know i have a much more
understanding really i never really was a fan
but um i've liked some of their songs in the
past um and really one that stands out for me
and always has stood out for me is woman in love
and i know they wrote that for barbara strassen
but um it's such a beautiful beautiful song um
perfection really as a song that how it makes
you feel. It's an amazing, amazing song. So that
really has always been my favorite. I've learned
to love a lot more of them now. But yeah, definitely
that one. And what I sing with Debbie a couple
of ballads and one of them is First of May and
the other one is Too Much Heaven. And I would
have to say both of those really. I love singing
because I think we harmonize together with them.
It's singing with my cousin, with a member of
my family that I'm related to, which I've never
experienced before in my life, which I've always
wondered what it's like to do. So I've got to
say both of those are my favorites to sing because
it's just... It's fantastic when we when we do
them together and we connect so so much when
we do them and It's it's such a beautiful experience
when we do them. So yeah, it's I've got to say
both of those if I can Let's hope that when you
get some more tour dates that you're near us
because I'd love to come and see you Whereabouts
are you again? The Hastings, they're not far
from Brighton, so... Oh, right, yeah, yeah. Well,
you never know, there could well be plans for,
you know, in the future, for... 2027, here we
come, let's... Yeah, so who knows? Who knows?
Yeah, yeah. Hastings is lovely, I've been there
a lot, and yeah, I've got friends down there,
and yeah, yeah. Very pretty town. Yeah, it is.
The Badger's Neighbours is very pretty, yeah,
with the hills and everything else. Yeah, the
old town. lovely, lovely, the old town there,
I like it all around there and yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's lovely. Great pubs, great restaurants, great
arty cinemas, it's all here. It's quite a music
scene there as well, isn't it? Yeah, very much
so. yeah okay so the best of the bgs show is
on in september 2026 on the 10th of september
at the king's theater portsmouth 11th of september
the royal and derngate in northampton 12th of
september bath forum and the 13th of september
at the cambridge corn exchange yes social media
wise i have found www .bestofthebgs .com .com
.au for Australia yeah .com .au yeah make sure
we do the au at the end and put the .au at the
end yeah and facebook nice and easy i mean i'm
sure if you just put best bgs in the facebook
if not www .facebook .com forward slash best
bg forward slash and you got that uh any other
social media you'd like to add to that um well
they're they're the main ones really if you want
to get tickets or follow them you know what's
going on um yeah so they're they're the two main
main ones to go to really um maybe the website
for for tickets yes if you if you want to get
a ticket go to the website um yeah nice website
really nice website very good website anyway
um yeah Nick Endicott, thank you so much. Fantastic
chatting to you. We wish you every success for
the show. Thank you very much. Let's do it again
when you come and do a big tour next year or
whenever it's going to be. Let's have another
chat then. Of course, that'd be great. In the
meantime, thanks for coming on. Thanks and thanks
for having me on. It's a pleasure. Nice to meet
you. Thank you. Thank you. Bye -bye. You've been
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