WEBVTT 00:00:05.390 --> 00:00:08.609 Chatterbox, when the stars talk, they talk to 00:00:08.609 --> 00:00:33.380 Nick and Sue. Welcome back to the Chatterbox 00:00:33.380 --> 00:00:36.299 Redux Podcast and in this edition our special 00:00:36.299 --> 00:01:07.969 guest is Ben Walters This is Nick and Sue with 00:01:07.969 --> 00:01:10.930 Chatterbox giving you all you need to know about 00:01:10.930 --> 00:01:18.150 musical entertainment. Oh, yeah! Chatterbox! 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:34.879 now on Chatterbox we're just lucky enough to 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:36.900 welcome Ben Walters. Ben welcome to Chatterbox, 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:39.760 how are you? Yeah very good thanks Nick, it's 00:01:39.760 --> 00:01:44.040 great to meet you. And you, and you. Right, interesting, 00:01:44.159 --> 00:01:47.540 I like the press release a lot. Boogie for Stu, 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:50.599 tribute to Ian Stewart. Deluxe edition, now this 00:01:50.599 --> 00:01:53.120 is something that came out some years ago but 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:55.000 obviously the deluxe edition is something new. 00:01:55.859 --> 00:01:58.900 Let's start off, would you like to tell? I mean, 00:01:59.019 --> 00:02:01.019 the average music people would know who Ian Stewart 00:02:01.019 --> 00:02:03.219 was, but would you like to just say who Ian Stewart 00:02:03.219 --> 00:02:05.840 was and how you got to know him and how this 00:02:05.840 --> 00:02:10.000 came about? Yeah, well, I got into piano playing 00:02:10.000 --> 00:02:14.639 when I was 14 when Fat Stomino's 60th birthday 00:02:14.639 --> 00:02:16.900 party came on TV. It was Fat Stomino, Ray Charles, 00:02:17.080 --> 00:02:19.539 Jerry D. Lewis. The second I heard of it, I heard 00:02:19.539 --> 00:02:22.379 it, it changed my life. Just really loved piano. 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:25.620 And I tried to play it and I started learning 00:02:25.620 --> 00:02:28.819 then. and then luckily Ian Stewart was a friend 00:02:28.819 --> 00:02:33.360 of my aunt and uncle's so I met him once years 00:02:33.360 --> 00:02:36.400 ago but he passed by this time but my uncle had 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:39.699 his piano at their house and they had his sound 00:02:39.699 --> 00:02:41.560 system which used to be the sound system for 00:02:41.560 --> 00:02:43.659 the front of house of the Rolling Stones during 00:02:43.659 --> 00:02:46.120 the 60s so it's a pretty big system for a house 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:48.900 and they also got loads of records and videos 00:02:48.900 --> 00:02:53.639 so I grew up in Weymouth in Dorset and we didn't 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:57.000 have a we didn't have youtube or we didn't have 00:02:57.000 --> 00:02:59.439 spotify and there wasn't many record shops where 00:02:59.439 --> 00:03:01.719 you could get blues i think you you had to get 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:04.560 all ordered mail ordered blues records you know 00:03:04.560 --> 00:03:06.199 so and then i didn't know all the people then 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:08.819 because i was quite young so i didn't know whether 00:03:08.819 --> 00:03:10.740 a john lee hooker record would be good or not 00:03:10.740 --> 00:03:13.680 you know because i of fresh into it so you know 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:15.460 and we you didn't really want to spend 15 pound 00:03:15.460 --> 00:03:18.080 to find out that it wasn't you know so so anyway 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:21.340 um there was this treasure trove of ian stewart's 00:03:21.340 --> 00:03:23.659 and stuff that he all these records he collected 00:03:23.659 --> 00:03:27.080 through the 60s and 70s and 80s and also also 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:30.300 lots of cine footage and video footage of people 00:03:30.300 --> 00:03:33.319 like muddy waters and cab calloway and albert 00:03:33.319 --> 00:03:36.300 hermans but the thing i love most it was several 00:03:36.300 --> 00:03:39.580 concerts of rocket 88 with Ian Stewart playing, 00:03:39.699 --> 00:03:42.360 but the good thing about them was the video camera 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:45.080 was set up on his hands. So I learned to play 00:03:45.080 --> 00:03:48.560 by copying him for years. And I used to go and 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:50.740 play in a place called Corsican with the Fox 00:03:50.740 --> 00:03:54.620 and stay with my aunt and uncle. And I just spend 00:03:54.620 --> 00:03:57.319 all day copying Ian Stewart. And I loved his 00:03:57.319 --> 00:04:00.240 piano playing. It was a really unique way of 00:04:00.240 --> 00:04:03.639 playing. And so I copied and copied and copied. 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:07.360 And then the bands that used to play with him, 00:04:08.019 --> 00:04:09.800 started asking me to play with them because they 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:12.000 knew I was copying them. So I ended up playing 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:14.740 with Chris Jagger, Mick's younger brother, and 00:04:14.740 --> 00:04:16.899 I ended up playing with Rocket 88 because of 00:04:16.899 --> 00:04:19.579 Ian Stewart. And it snowballed from there. But 00:04:19.579 --> 00:04:22.500 then people would say, who are your heroes? And 00:04:22.500 --> 00:04:24.040 I'd say, Fat Stoneman. And they'd go, great. 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:26.399 I'd say, Jerry Lewis. They said, great. And I'd 00:04:26.399 --> 00:04:28.139 say, Ian Stewart. And invariably, they'd say, 00:04:28.420 --> 00:04:33.139 who? And this man did so much. He did so much. 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:35.620 I mean, it's ridiculous what he did. I mean without 00:04:35.620 --> 00:04:37.459 him there wouldn't be any Rolling Stones. I'm 00:04:37.459 --> 00:04:43.259 pretty sure Led Zeppelin recorded Boogie Boogie 00:04:43.259 --> 00:04:46.019 with Stu for him and he played on rock and roll. 00:04:46.500 --> 00:04:48.100 I don't think they would have done it without 00:04:48.100 --> 00:04:54.759 him And he also made this recording studio Which 00:04:54.759 --> 00:04:58.420 recorded the stones mobile recorded exile on 00:04:58.420 --> 00:05:01.420 Main Street, but it also They also recorded on 00:05:01.420 --> 00:05:04.759 it Bob Marley, No Woman No Cry, which made Bob 00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:06.899 Marley really famous. He might not have been 00:05:06.899 --> 00:05:08.879 the global star he was if it wasn't for Ian Stewart. 00:05:09.579 --> 00:05:12.139 And then Smoke on the Water was recorded on it. 00:05:12.300 --> 00:05:14.439 And they even sing about it, went down to Montreux 00:05:14.439 --> 00:05:17.040 to record on a mobile studio and it caught fire. 00:05:17.139 --> 00:05:19.500 That's why it was Smoke on the Water. And there 00:05:19.500 --> 00:05:22.160 was so many things that Ian Stewart has done, 00:05:23.139 --> 00:05:26.800 like Ian Rankin based Rebus, his biggest selling 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:30.740 book on Ian Stewart. He's done so much, I'm only 00:05:30.740 --> 00:05:35.579 touching a tenth of what he's done. And it really 00:05:35.579 --> 00:05:37.120 upset me that people didn't know him. So that's 00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:39.540 why I did it. That's an entire book there as 00:05:39.540 --> 00:05:41.560 well as an album, isn't it, really? So yeah, 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:45.120 nice tribute. Yeah. Now we got a single, in fact, 00:05:45.199 --> 00:05:47.079 I must say, a lot of places you mentioned both 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:49.019 off there and at the beginning, you mentioned 00:05:49.019 --> 00:05:52.199 Weymouth and places, Sherbourne and that. And 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:54.079 yeah, we're going about 30 odd years ago now. 00:05:54.220 --> 00:05:58.300 We're back. Early mid -90s. By day and early 00:05:58.300 --> 00:06:01.639 evening, normal times, I was the managing projectionist 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:03.800 at the Plaza Cinema, Dorchester, and at night, 00:06:04.319 --> 00:06:06.420 I was the resident DJ at Mariners Nightclub in 00:06:06.420 --> 00:06:08.339 Hyde Street, Dorchester. So I know a lot of the 00:06:08.339 --> 00:06:10.639 places you're talking about. Wow, that's incredible. 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:14.360 And hence why I have a soft spot for Nick Capaldi, 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:23.839 who's very good anyway, but also... that the 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:47.959 Specifically, why has that once been a sort of 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:50.560 headline for the initial single, we'll say, perhaps? 00:06:50.939 --> 00:06:53.720 Well, it was a brand new tune that we did. Well, 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:56.060 it's an old tune, but it's the first time that 00:06:56.060 --> 00:06:59.240 we did it as that line up. And we were doing 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:01.800 some new tracks for the Deluxe version of the 00:07:01.800 --> 00:07:05.579 album. And so I spoke to Dave Kelly, who's singing 00:07:05.579 --> 00:07:08.980 that. He's in the blues band. His sister was 00:07:08.980 --> 00:07:11.740 very famous, Joanne Kelly. He's my favorite. 00:07:11.930 --> 00:07:14.430 guitar player singer from England he's just he's 00:07:14.430 --> 00:07:17.829 amazing that's incredible so um Keith was up 00:07:17.829 --> 00:07:20.110 for doing it Dave was doing it and then we had 00:07:20.110 --> 00:07:23.629 Ian Jennings and Paul Beavis on it as well who 00:07:23.629 --> 00:07:25.149 were the rhythm section for Andy Fairweather 00:07:25.149 --> 00:07:27.350 Low at the moment actually so it was a it was 00:07:27.350 --> 00:07:30.250 a it was a great band and then we decided what 00:07:30.250 --> 00:07:32.310 we were going to do and Dave said he'd like to 00:07:32.310 --> 00:07:34.850 do Comeback Baby so he told me so I went and 00:07:34.850 --> 00:07:38.339 googled it and found it. And I thought, oh, the 00:07:38.339 --> 00:07:39.959 piano playing is really complicated. I found 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:43.139 this Ray Charles doing it. I spent three weeks 00:07:43.139 --> 00:07:45.079 learning the piano parts before we got to the 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:47.220 studio and I got to the studio. So I think I've 00:07:47.220 --> 00:07:49.300 just about learned the piano parts. Yes, what 00:07:49.300 --> 00:07:50.699 do you mean? There's no piano on it. We're doing 00:07:50.699 --> 00:07:54.500 the John Lee Hooker version. And so I spent three 00:07:54.500 --> 00:07:56.959 weeks learning the wrong parts for nothing. So 00:07:56.959 --> 00:08:01.139 it was quite a relief when I got there and we 00:08:01.139 --> 00:08:05.300 did the tune and Keith loved it. we all loved 00:08:05.300 --> 00:08:07.759 it actually was it was in some ways it's very 00:08:07.759 --> 00:08:10.540 simple i mean it's really is simple but also 00:08:10.540 --> 00:08:12.959 it's quite complex because it did that old john 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:15.500 lee hooker thing of changing where you at least 00:08:15.500 --> 00:08:18.100 expect it to change it's like there's only three 00:08:18.100 --> 00:08:19.800 chords but like suddenly it'll change halfway 00:08:19.800 --> 00:08:22.160 through a bar and things like that and i know 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:24.319 charlie loved all that kind of stuff and uh i 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:28.199 know as it as it always does um but um but it 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:29.899 made me think of him and you know it's just like 00:08:29.899 --> 00:08:32.860 um and the comeback baby. But you know, I spent 00:08:32.860 --> 00:08:35.279 a lot of time with Charlie, we did 100 gigs around 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:38.360 the world. And the thing that struck me with 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:41.690 him, when you talk to this humble man, sat next 00:08:41.690 --> 00:08:43.429 to him in the car for hours and hours and hours. 00:08:43.730 --> 00:08:46.309 You did realize that he knew Elvis Presley and 00:08:46.309 --> 00:08:49.549 Marilyn Monroe and John Lennon and presidents 00:08:49.549 --> 00:08:53.529 and prime ministers and of all sorts of different 00:08:53.529 --> 00:08:56.509 countries and film stars and BB King and all 00:08:56.509 --> 00:08:59.250 those kind of people he knew. So he was a very 00:08:59.250 --> 00:09:01.909 humble man but it was just great to talk to him 00:09:01.909 --> 00:09:03.769 because you never know what was going to come 00:09:03.769 --> 00:09:16.220 out next. This is Nick and Sue with Cheddar Box 00:09:16.220 --> 00:09:18.480 giving you all you need to know about musical 00:09:18.480 --> 00:09:24.820 entertainment Cheddar Box Cheddar Box Cheddar 00:09:24.820 --> 00:09:27.700 Box Cheddar Box I mean I must say all that going 00:09:27.700 --> 00:09:30.799 way back the Stones been you know the way it 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:33.259 was all planned that rough sound and the rough 00:09:33.259 --> 00:09:36.440 look we say it still sounds great today I know 00:09:36.440 --> 00:09:39.360 Charlie Blessing's not with us anymore but and 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:42.049 I'll tell you what angry that single when the 00:09:42.049 --> 00:09:44.350 first time I heard it I said that sounds like 00:09:44.350 --> 00:09:46.470 a stone single that sounds like a good stone 00:09:46.470 --> 00:09:50.269 single you know yeah so he's still got it all 00:09:50.269 --> 00:09:52.690 these years on so Charlie's played obviously 00:09:52.690 --> 00:09:55.190 played his part it's almost like I dare say the 00:09:55.190 --> 00:09:58.179 ghost of Charlie and perhaps Brian Jones is still 00:09:58.179 --> 00:10:00.220 there. I wonder if they are sort of a bit aware 00:10:00.220 --> 00:10:02.460 when they do new stuff that well I think that's 00:10:02.460 --> 00:10:04.580 what Charlie would have wanted to have done and 00:10:04.580 --> 00:10:07.480 I think that's how they work things out. I do, 00:10:07.659 --> 00:10:11.600 I generally do with them. I don't think it could 00:10:11.600 --> 00:10:13.220 be anything else but I'd be lucky enough to play 00:10:13.220 --> 00:10:15.580 with a few people for decades and it really does 00:10:15.580 --> 00:10:18.759 affect your playing. And you sort of go back 00:10:18.759 --> 00:10:22.399 to muscle memory of how it would have been. It 00:10:22.399 --> 00:10:24.419 made you play in a certain way. And so the band 00:10:24.419 --> 00:10:26.399 is still playing in a certain way, I'm sure, 00:10:27.299 --> 00:10:29.320 because of all the influence that Charlie had. 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:33.100 I'm really confident of that. Totally different. 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:35.779 But just an example, more for the listeners, 00:10:35.899 --> 00:10:41.759 really. We have the real thing on. It was maybe 00:10:41.759 --> 00:10:44.620 on quite a few times. Chris and Eddie's past, 00:10:44.620 --> 00:10:47.110 of course. when they did their first album in 00:10:47.110 --> 00:10:50.070 50 years of course eddie had already passed unfortunately 00:10:50.070 --> 00:10:53.809 what um what chris did chris amu did the younger 00:10:53.809 --> 00:10:57.330 brother he recorded his part and they went back 00:10:57.330 --> 00:11:00.610 to the studio and recorded eddie you know so 00:11:00.610 --> 00:11:03.490 what it sounded like with the other guy it was 00:11:03.490 --> 00:11:08.370 a real thing record and it worked so yeah there 00:11:08.370 --> 00:11:12.279 you go it can be done yeah but there's a lot 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:15.039 of efforts gone into this album of course and 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:17.919 um we're talking about the likes of uh people 00:11:17.919 --> 00:11:21.679 like um originally we got um mick jagger heath 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:23.440 richards ronnie woods bill wyman they've all 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:26.019 added their magic to the original album i guess 00:11:26.019 --> 00:11:30.460 so um yeah who else is on it did i see you done 00:11:30.460 --> 00:11:33.720 something at jules jules holland's studio as 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:37.240 well free of charge yeah well what happened was 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:41.240 um I said one of these conversations I was having 00:11:41.240 --> 00:11:43.100 with Charlie in the back of a car I just suddenly 00:11:43.100 --> 00:11:45.919 said I'm always wanted to do a tribute album 00:11:45.919 --> 00:11:47.440 to Ian Stewart because he was always talking 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:50.000 about Ian Stewart and I said well I'm definitely 00:11:50.000 --> 00:11:52.200 gonna do an album for him one day and I actually 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:54.679 booked it in a studio in Weymouth actually and 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:56.480 I told him I was gonna do it and he said well 00:11:56.480 --> 00:11:58.100 if you ever if you need some drums on it let 00:11:58.100 --> 00:12:00.240 me know and I thought well I can't I can't turn 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:03.169 that down so So I thought, right, I'll do it. 00:12:03.169 --> 00:12:05.509 But I was recording in a tiny little studio away 00:12:05.509 --> 00:12:08.590 with Mars out of London and stuff. So I phoned 00:12:08.590 --> 00:12:11.129 up Jules Holland and said, look, you know, Charlie's 00:12:11.129 --> 00:12:14.009 up for doing this album. I said, I haven't got 00:12:14.009 --> 00:12:15.470 a studio. We said, well, use mine. I said, well, 00:12:15.470 --> 00:12:16.970 you've got to come and play on it as well, because 00:12:16.970 --> 00:12:21.110 he knew Stu. So then I phoned the Stones office 00:12:21.110 --> 00:12:24.269 to say, we're recording on these dates. And Sherry 00:12:24.269 --> 00:12:26.629 Daly, this lovely lady that was helping me at 00:12:26.629 --> 00:12:28.649 the time, and it wouldn't have happened without 00:12:28.649 --> 00:12:32.029 her, was having lunch with Ronnie Wood. and she 00:12:32.029 --> 00:12:34.909 told him what was happening and Ronnie said well 00:12:34.909 --> 00:12:37.370 if you need guitar on it and so he said he'd 00:12:37.370 --> 00:12:40.629 do it and then I had to phone Charlie to tell 00:12:40.629 --> 00:12:42.190 him Ronnie was there and he said oh my god if 00:12:42.190 --> 00:12:44.509 you've got guitar on there you can't have guitar 00:12:44.509 --> 00:12:47.509 and not have Keith on it because Keith was Stu's 00:12:47.509 --> 00:12:50.669 best mate so I had to phone back phone back Keith 00:12:50.669 --> 00:12:53.169 and then then I asked him and he was on it like 00:12:53.169 --> 00:12:55.940 a shot So then I phoned Sherry back and said, 00:12:56.039 --> 00:12:57.700 look, that all three of them are doing it. And 00:12:57.700 --> 00:12:59.559 she said, well, you can't have three quarters 00:12:59.559 --> 00:13:02.480 of the stones as they currently are and leave 00:13:02.480 --> 00:13:04.600 one out without asking. So you've at least got 00:13:04.600 --> 00:13:07.179 to ask, otherwise it looks like he's snubbed 00:13:07.179 --> 00:13:10.899 you. And I'll tell you what, it was just amazing 00:13:10.899 --> 00:13:13.620 how it happened. And they were all so nice and 00:13:13.620 --> 00:13:16.379 all the thing that came across is that all their 00:13:16.379 --> 00:13:18.700 love of music, all of them, you know, they're 00:13:18.700 --> 00:13:21.659 just so knowledgeable and being around so long. 00:13:21.799 --> 00:13:24.740 And they were influenced by people from the 40s 00:13:24.740 --> 00:13:29.840 and 50s. And it's incredible, really, all these 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:32.620 decades, nearly a century later. I know they 00:13:32.620 --> 00:13:34.639 weren't playing in the 40s, but their influences 00:13:34.639 --> 00:13:40.120 were from then. And even earlier, really. So 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:43.259 I think it was just fascinating talking to them 00:13:43.259 --> 00:13:44.559 because you could talk to them for hours and 00:13:44.559 --> 00:13:46.539 hours and hours. And it's really funny because 00:13:46.539 --> 00:13:50.679 you don't really talk about what press want to 00:13:50.679 --> 00:13:52.960 talk about you just want to talk about like amos 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:56.639 milburn or the or um you know um earl palmer 00:13:56.639 --> 00:13:58.779 the drummer you could have an hour conversation 00:13:58.779 --> 00:14:01.080 with charlie about earl palmer you know and it's 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:04.299 uh and it's really fascinating wonderful so could 00:14:04.299 --> 00:14:08.340 we almost say uh ben waters became a member of 00:14:08.340 --> 00:14:10.460 the rolling stones perhaps all the rolling stones 00:14:10.460 --> 00:14:13.580 became ben waters's backing group no i couldn't 00:14:13.580 --> 00:14:16.090 say that I was very, very honoured to do it. 00:14:16.169 --> 00:14:18.110 They have asked me to the studio a few other 00:14:18.110 --> 00:14:21.970 times. I went into the studio with them in 2011 00:14:21.970 --> 00:14:26.809 for four days, which was an amazing thing. And 00:14:26.809 --> 00:14:29.629 then I went into Metropolis Studios about two, 00:14:29.710 --> 00:14:32.230 three years ago to do some recording, which might 00:14:32.230 --> 00:14:33.789 come out yet, actually, because I think there's 00:14:33.789 --> 00:14:37.549 a new album coming out sometime soon. And so 00:14:37.549 --> 00:14:39.929 you never know, I might be on one of those touchwood, 00:14:40.029 --> 00:14:44.870 you never know. Yeah, the smoke signals are very 00:14:44.870 --> 00:14:46.629 strong about a new studio album, definitely. 00:14:47.070 --> 00:14:49.370 They're coming from reliable sources. They're 00:14:49.370 --> 00:14:51.710 normally right, so I'm expecting it as well. 00:14:52.110 --> 00:14:54.690 I think that's at 18 months, but yeah, it's going 00:14:54.690 --> 00:14:58.289 to follow. I'd say when I went to Metropolis 00:14:58.289 --> 00:15:01.250 a few years back, I played on four tracks, but 00:15:01.250 --> 00:15:03.090 I know they had lots of tracks to choose from, 00:15:03.129 --> 00:15:05.190 so I don't know if any of those will get used. 00:15:06.029 --> 00:15:08.129 It was great, you know, it was just an honour 00:15:08.129 --> 00:15:11.570 to do it. Yeah, I believe that there's like three 00:15:11.570 --> 00:15:14.309 albums worth of strong tracks to do studio albums. 00:15:15.330 --> 00:15:18.850 Yeah, it's there, isn't it? Sat on the shelf, 00:15:19.009 --> 00:15:22.850 really. Yeah. Anyway, so we've obviously got 00:15:22.850 --> 00:15:25.870 a full album here as well. How many tracks have 00:15:25.870 --> 00:15:29.720 we got? We've got loads. Fifteen, I think. It's 00:15:29.720 --> 00:15:32.539 something like that. What stands out? I mean, 00:15:32.639 --> 00:15:36.000 okay, out of all of these, what might we have 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:38.679 as another single? What else could be singles 00:15:38.679 --> 00:15:40.740 on there that in your mind you want to push? 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:43.419 Well, I always love watching the river flow, 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:45.580 but for several reasons, because it's all of 00:15:45.580 --> 00:15:48.519 the Rolling Stones. In fact, not only was it 00:15:48.519 --> 00:15:50.639 all of the Rolling Stones, including Bill Wyman, 00:15:50.700 --> 00:15:52.639 it was the first time Bill Wyman had played with 00:15:52.639 --> 00:15:55.159 the Stones in 18 years, because he left in 92 00:15:55.159 --> 00:15:58.000 and came back when we recorded that in 2010. 00:15:59.609 --> 00:16:01.870 And so that was the first time he did that. And 00:16:01.870 --> 00:16:06.850 then Jules Hollands on organ, I'm on piano. Dave 00:16:06.850 --> 00:16:09.350 Swift, who's Jules Hollands' bass player, was 00:16:09.350 --> 00:16:10.830 playing tambourine because he wanted to play 00:16:10.830 --> 00:16:14.389 with the Rolling Stones. Don Weller was on saxophone. 00:16:15.029 --> 00:16:17.190 Willie Garnett was on saxophone. Alex Garnett. 00:16:17.570 --> 00:16:23.309 But I snuck my nine -year -old son on alto saxophone 00:16:23.309 --> 00:16:25.429 and he got to record with the Rolling Stones 00:16:25.429 --> 00:16:27.710 at the age of nine. So he's on this album as 00:16:27.710 --> 00:16:31.769 well. That's brilliant. That is brilliant. Yeah, 00:16:31.850 --> 00:16:34.629 do you have a single or just see how it goes? 00:16:35.409 --> 00:16:37.529 Yeah, Room in House Boogie. That's another one. 00:16:38.169 --> 00:16:41.230 That's Keith Richards. I went over to New York 00:16:41.230 --> 00:16:45.070 to record that with him and it just reminds me 00:16:45.070 --> 00:16:47.889 of a really good time and stuff. And it's actually 00:16:47.889 --> 00:16:52.509 when Dylan Johns, who makes the album, recorded 00:16:52.509 --> 00:16:55.549 it. And quite rightly so, he said the album's 00:16:55.549 --> 00:16:57.929 about Ian Stewart, so the guitars are actually 00:16:57.929 --> 00:17:03.830 very quiet. And it sort of does sound like Rocket 00:17:03.830 --> 00:17:07.710 88 in lots of ways. So he was quite wise to do 00:17:07.710 --> 00:17:11.309 it, but I did love the guitar. Ronnie and Keith 00:17:11.309 --> 00:17:14.650 both played some beautiful parts that are almost 00:17:14.650 --> 00:17:16.809 inaudible in some places because it was about 00:17:16.809 --> 00:17:22.170 to do. You're listening to Nick Prince and Sue 00:17:22.170 --> 00:18:06.079 Earl on Chatterbox UK. This is Nick and Sue with 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:08.440 Chatterbox giving you all you need to know about 00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:15.019 musical entertainment Chatterbox Chatterbox Chatterbox 00:18:15.019 --> 00:18:18.619 Chatterbox But one day I'd love to find the hard 00:18:18.619 --> 00:18:20.779 drive and turn them up because Ronnie did some 00:18:20.779 --> 00:18:22.819 beautiful slide playing on watching the Riverfly 00:18:22.819 --> 00:18:28.500 original Well, Ronnie is the epitome of a... 00:18:28.670 --> 00:18:31.970 the aging rock star he just looks so i just love 00:18:31.970 --> 00:18:34.069 him to bits i'm completely with the bloody head 00:18:34.069 --> 00:18:36.690 thing now i just love him to bits he's amazing 00:18:36.690 --> 00:18:40.390 i did i did quite a few gigs with him we did 00:18:40.390 --> 00:18:43.609 the shepherds bush empire and we was the shepherds 00:18:43.609 --> 00:18:46.509 bush empire of birmingham symphony hall um we 00:18:46.509 --> 00:18:48.849 did two nights at runny scott's a few a few little 00:18:48.849 --> 00:18:51.730 theaters around you never knew what was going 00:18:51.730 --> 00:18:53.529 to happen with him one night you turn up with 00:18:53.529 --> 00:18:56.009 rod stewart and rod have got up and sing another 00:18:56.009 --> 00:18:58.009 night he turned up with Jeff Beck and Johnny 00:18:58.009 --> 00:18:59.930 Depp and they got up and played with us at Ronnie 00:18:59.930 --> 00:19:02.170 Scott's another night you turn up with a Mel 00:19:02.170 --> 00:19:05.250 de May or um but the thing is I think that's 00:19:05.250 --> 00:19:09.950 his um uh you know he I think he lives on the 00:19:09.950 --> 00:19:15.650 um very creative and exciting life you know and 00:19:15.650 --> 00:19:18.819 I just think he He is never boring put it that 00:19:18.819 --> 00:19:20.519 way. You never know what it's gonna be and it 00:19:20.519 --> 00:19:22.299 could suddenly be right Let's jump on this plane 00:19:22.299 --> 00:19:24.180 and go somewhere. Let's do some recording or 00:19:24.180 --> 00:19:27.480 or let's get I don't know He always had this 00:19:27.480 --> 00:19:30.079 drummer that on our geeks called Dexter Hercules 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:32.319 And he just like he loved Dexter and thought 00:19:32.319 --> 00:19:34.559 he's brilliant and Dexter's got on to do he's 00:19:34.559 --> 00:19:37.480 Ed Sheeran's drummer I think now and yeah, and 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:40.779 these he's just a nicest humblest Kindest man 00:19:40.779 --> 00:19:43.339 as he's running. I know he's actually a very 00:19:43.339 --> 00:19:46.859 kind humble thoughtful man and who just happens 00:19:46.859 --> 00:19:49.720 to be a rock and roll star as well. A surviving 00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:52.539 one like that. No, he's great. You could tell 00:19:52.539 --> 00:19:54.599 I absolutely dwelled the stones anyway, but, 00:19:54.599 --> 00:19:58.099 you know, living and dead ones, you know. Yeah, 00:19:58.319 --> 00:20:00.660 me too, yeah. He's the person of a rock star, 00:20:00.859 --> 00:20:03.779 but what he should look like in the 60s, an aging 00:20:03.779 --> 00:20:06.269 rock star, that's him. brilliant yeah i've never 00:20:06.269 --> 00:20:09.289 had any any any sort of doubt in my mind that 00:20:09.289 --> 00:20:11.049 he was anything but a really nice guy and what 00:20:11.049 --> 00:20:14.789 you see you know so okay so we got the single 00:20:14.789 --> 00:20:18.190 of course um which is baby come back featuring 00:20:18.190 --> 00:20:21.589 keith richards and dedicated to charlie uh what's 00:20:21.589 --> 00:20:25.569 uh now the album uh boogie for stew uh is uh 00:20:25.569 --> 00:20:28.829 is released on grinning dog records yeah hold 00:20:28.829 --> 00:20:33.130 his label from dorchester now Great record label. 00:20:33.569 --> 00:20:37.349 Now often I know Nick likes to release quite 00:20:37.349 --> 00:20:39.069 a bit of vinyl. He's got a real soft spot of 00:20:39.069 --> 00:20:42.490 vinyl. Are we having a vinyl release of the album? 00:20:43.369 --> 00:20:48.690 Yes, we are. He's got a limited edition mustard 00:20:48.690 --> 00:20:52.410 coloured vinyl out. A normal vinyl and the CD 00:20:52.410 --> 00:20:55.390 as well. And you can get them all at grinningdogrecords 00:20:55.390 --> 00:20:58.769 .com. Nick and Grace have been absolutely amazing. 00:20:59.579 --> 00:21:01.339 great mates of mine, they only live down the 00:21:01.339 --> 00:21:04.259 road. And we could have put it, we've got several 00:21:04.259 --> 00:21:07.420 offers of putting it on larger labels. But I 00:21:07.420 --> 00:21:09.799 just I knew Nick and Grace are the nicest people 00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:12.420 in the world. So I just knew they'd give it their 00:21:12.420 --> 00:21:15.700 all, you know. Yeah, in addition to that, you 00:21:15.700 --> 00:21:17.640 know, that's why I said all fair before we started 00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:19.480 about the vinyl, I know that Nick's got soft 00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:23.039 spot for the vinyl and yeah, I knew it. It's 00:21:23.039 --> 00:21:25.579 a good selling point and yellow vinyl about so 00:21:25.579 --> 00:21:29.799 yeah, brilliant. Yeah. Let's do some social media 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:31.539 for you. I've looked at your website Oh, no, 00:21:31.619 --> 00:21:33.579 actually, no, we would look at your tour before 00:21:33.579 --> 00:21:37.079 we do that So by the time this goes out, you 00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:40.220 will still have Something going on in Guernsey 00:21:40.220 --> 00:21:43.259 on the 27th of March. Yeah, we're playing in 00:21:43.259 --> 00:21:45.299 the There's a place that used to be called the 00:21:45.299 --> 00:21:48.920 Duke of Richmond. It's now called the Duke. So 00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:52.660 we're playing there on Friday 8 p .m. And then 00:21:52.660 --> 00:21:56.720 Saturday 3 p .m. And Sunday 3pm and hopefully 00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:58.859 the weather will be lovely in Guernsey that time 00:21:58.859 --> 00:22:01.900 of year. Yes well it's got to be about three 00:22:01.900 --> 00:22:03.680 or four degrees hotter than here, it's supposed 00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:05.319 to be at the moment so let's hope it stays that 00:22:05.319 --> 00:22:09.220 way for you. So moving further down, 2nd of April 00:22:09.220 --> 00:22:14.099 Red Lion St Colum, 3rd of April the Hay Barn 00:22:14.099 --> 00:22:16.960 Dorset, 23rd of June, this is an interesting 00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:20.599 one, Winterfield Festival Hampshire, 26th of 00:22:20.599 --> 00:22:23.059 June Cafe Oasis Weymouth, not far for you to 00:22:23.059 --> 00:22:27.640 go on that one then. No 17th of July Racing Spirit 00:22:27.640 --> 00:22:31.859 Festival Dorset great venue this one 23rd of 00:22:31.859 --> 00:22:33.759 July we love this like in fact I'm going there 00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:35.619 myself I've gone there several times here to 00:22:35.619 --> 00:22:38.759 Half Moon and Putney 23rd of July yeah great 00:22:38.759 --> 00:22:43.299 venue have some great stuff on 31st of July Sarisbury 00:22:43.299 --> 00:22:46.259 Green Community Centre Southampton and 25th of 00:22:46.259 --> 00:22:49.940 September Dominic Theatre Penzance with Tom Walters 00:22:49.940 --> 00:22:51.460 and I also see on some of these so you've got 00:22:51.460 --> 00:22:55.210 Tom Walters on some but i also did see that the 00:22:55.210 --> 00:22:57.910 uh farthingate farm endorse it you're with mike 00:22:57.910 --> 00:23:01.390 darbo oh no he's already been actually there 00:23:01.390 --> 00:23:04.569 mike darbo oh that was snapchat oh yeah mike 00:23:04.569 --> 00:23:07.289 mike's an old friend and uh he's a fantastic 00:23:07.289 --> 00:23:10.650 really lovely man and a great singer great songwriter 00:23:10.650 --> 00:23:13.509 yeah i remember him coming on here it was sort 00:23:13.509 --> 00:23:15.109 of like the only time we could we could work 00:23:15.109 --> 00:23:18.539 it because he was doing so much uh stuff obviously 00:23:18.539 --> 00:23:22.500 he was doing his golden whatever tours with the 00:23:22.500 --> 00:23:24.700 Manfreds or whatever and he ended up talking 00:23:24.700 --> 00:23:27.200 to us one Sunday night and we did the interview 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:30.279 bearing in mind he's about 80 during the interview 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:32.299 at 11 o 'clock at night with him on a Sunday 00:23:32.299 --> 00:23:37.759 bless him so there you go great guy yeah okay 00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:42.839 so website and social media we've got www .benwaters 00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:48.089 .com and then links to your other social media 00:23:48.089 --> 00:23:50.410 is basically can all be found on there scroll 00:23:50.410 --> 00:23:52.190 down a bit you've got a link directly to your 00:23:52.190 --> 00:23:54.869 Facebook and if someone wants to email you they 00:23:54.869 --> 00:23:57.450 can click on that as well lots of press release 00:23:57.450 --> 00:24:01.769 stuff lots of photos yeah good stuff yeah oh 00:24:01.769 --> 00:24:04.849 thanks thanks for doing that Ben it's been great 00:24:04.849 --> 00:24:08.390 meeting you fantastically got all four of the 00:24:08.390 --> 00:24:10.930 stones at the time playing on that song and other 00:24:10.930 --> 00:24:13.180 stones other tracks i thought that's really good 00:24:13.180 --> 00:24:16.299 so well done so thank you very much yeah i like 00:24:16.299 --> 00:24:18.559 that it's a pick we could just swing it say bed 00:24:18.559 --> 00:24:20.640 waters and the rolling stones but maybe that 00:24:20.640 --> 00:24:26.400 maybe that's contraction i was honored they did 00:24:26.400 --> 00:24:28.839 it and they were all so kind to me and they're 00:24:28.839 --> 00:24:31.099 all brilliant musicians and like playing playing 00:24:31.099 --> 00:24:33.279 with all of them i mean bill's just got such 00:24:33.279 --> 00:24:35.680 a good groove on the uh on the bass kind of thing 00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:39.029 and charlie um he's always good but every now 00:24:39.029 --> 00:24:41.150 and then he's sublime you know like we did like 00:24:41.150 --> 00:24:44.049 say 100 gigs together and sometimes you just 00:24:44.049 --> 00:24:45.750 i've never played with any bond that plays drums 00:24:45.750 --> 00:24:47.549 like that it's suddenly like a steam train or 00:24:47.549 --> 00:24:48.690 something you're playing along you're like oh 00:24:48.690 --> 00:24:51.450 my god he's on fire tonight is that as the book 00:24:51.450 --> 00:24:53.589 goes charlie's good tonight isn't he when he 00:24:53.589 --> 00:24:56.380 is good he's like phenomenal Yeah, it's like 00:24:56.380 --> 00:24:58.400 you mentioned bill wasn't it? I was thinking 00:24:58.400 --> 00:25:01.400 he did do that track or couple of tracks on on 00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:04.380 rough diamonds hackney diamonds, sorry Hackney 00:25:04.380 --> 00:25:06.799 diamonds and uh, it is it's very much the case 00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:10.140 that He was like, oh, is he 89 now? Was he 89 00:25:10.140 --> 00:25:12.339 the other day something like that? Very late 00:25:12.339 --> 00:25:14.759 80s. So he's been in 87 when he recorded that 00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:17.640 he's still got it. He's still definitely Yeah, 00:25:18.220 --> 00:25:20.500 he's got a very unusual way of playing but it 00:25:20.500 --> 00:25:24.259 sounds so cool. It's great And he's very nice 00:25:24.259 --> 00:25:27.559 to me and my son. They're all a bit very nice 00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:30.380 to my son. He's a saxophone player and we've 00:25:30.380 --> 00:25:33.160 all been very encouraging to him, you know. In 00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:36.079 a way, he still looks the same as well. He does. 00:25:36.240 --> 00:25:39.660 Yeah, he doesn't change at all. Anyway, I do 00:25:39.660 --> 00:25:43.079 like the sound of it. I like the boogie bit and 00:25:43.079 --> 00:25:46.299 the patch. Almost. It's so fast. I think so. 00:25:46.619 --> 00:25:49.140 It's honky tonk. I quite like some of it, in 00:25:49.140 --> 00:25:50.960 my opinion. Yeah, thank you. I like the sound 00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:54.109 of it. so i wish you every success with it and 00:25:54.109 --> 00:25:56.470 uh next time you do something uh drop us an email 00:25:56.470 --> 00:25:59.170 pop on by yeah so uh and if you're not sure how 00:25:59.170 --> 00:26:01.509 to get hold well it's nickprintstudio gmail .com 00:26:01.509 --> 00:26:04.289 if not nick knows my contact details and i'm 00:26:04.289 --> 00:26:06.109 friends with him on facebook we chat every so 00:26:06.109 --> 00:26:08.289 often so you can always go through him if you 00:26:08.289 --> 00:26:11.630 need to so uh yeah fantastic it was a pleasure 00:26:11.630 --> 00:26:13.109 to meet you and thanks for having me on i really 00:26:13.109 --> 00:26:15.009 appreciate it it's a pleasure babe you take care 00:26:15.009 --> 00:26:42.839 thank you bye You've been listening to the Chatterbox 00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:46.240 Redux podcast with me Nick and our guest this 00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:49.599 time was Ben Waters If you're interested in becoming 00:26:49.599 --> 00:26:52.579 a future guest on the Chatterbox Redux podcast 00:26:52.579 --> 00:26:55.140 or the radio show Chatterbox UK, you're welcome 00:26:55.140 --> 00:26:58.000 to submit songs, books, or whatever it is you 00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:01.750 do. and send us a CV, synopsis or press release. 00:27:02.190 --> 00:27:04.970 However, we receive several thousand such press 00:27:04.970 --> 00:27:07.910 releases every week and it's impossible to reply 00:27:07.910 --> 00:27:11.049 to each one individually. 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