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And now here they are, Nick and Sue on Chatterbox.

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When the stars talk, they talk to Nick and Sue.

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Welcome back to the Chatterbox Redux Podcast

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with Nick and Sue and today our special guest

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is Kelly Lang We're chatterbox giving you all

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you need to know about Muse! And now in Chatterbox

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UK, we're just lucky enough to welcome Kelly

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Lang. Kelly, welcome. How are you? Thank you

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for coming on. Hello, Kelly. Oh, thank you. Thank

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you for having me. I have been in Nashville running

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errands all day today and it's a beautiful day

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here. Doing really, really well. I've got a lot

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of things to talk with you about and I'm hoping

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we can get to them all. Absolutely fantastic.

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Now, let me tell you a little something that

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we have done. Your song. which has been adopted

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by a hospital over here, over your way. We had

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that on our hit and miss show last Sunday. Now

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that's very popular, both in the UK and in the

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Netherlands. And they voted it a smash hit. What

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that means is that all the people that vote,

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every single one voted, they reckon that's going

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to be a hit. And that's without the adverb being

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shown in Europe. So how about that? Oh, my goodness.

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What a thrill. Well, I wrote that song many years

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ago. It's called I'm not going anywhere. And

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you're right. It ended up in a huge national

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campaign for Ascension hospitals. And, you know,

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during the pandemic, everybody had to leave their

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loved ones either in the hospital or a nursing

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home, unfortunately. And it was a reassuring

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song to help people get through that tough time.

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And I think it resonates for everyone at this

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point. Absolutely, it's very, very lifting. It's

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wonderful. There is such a story behind it. Now,

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your story really hits home with both of us.

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Sue lost her mother for a brain tumour. My mother...

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Sadly, the age of 84 is currently fighting breast

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cancer. Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that. Yeah,

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and you are a survivor of 17 years. So I hand

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the stage back to you, Kelly, to tell the listeners

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the rest, please. Well, I'm actually 18 years

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out now. I'm super grateful to be here to be

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able to tell my story. As you know, so many people

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do not survive this. And for a long time, I kept

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my story to myself. I just wanted to get it in

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my past and not really talk about it. But I became

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really close friends with Olivia Newton John,

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Dame Olivia Newton John. And in watching her

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and witnessing her how she lived to help people

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to use her music platform to be able to help

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other cancer survivors. It really was a great

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example for me to learn from and be able to teach

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other people how I got through it and what's

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keeping me going. And a lot of it is positive

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attitude and gratitude and just looking for for

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kindness and giving someone your smile and watching

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her has really helped me. And she wrote the forward

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to my book and a lot of Yes, and a lot of the

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collective ideas that I've come from in there

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has just been wisdom that I have gained from

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being around her and women like her. Another

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great ambassador, of course, for the cause. But

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your book now, obviously it's about your... fight

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your battle against breast cancer all those years

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ago and being a survivor. And I think you've

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also done wonderful because the way you're doing

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things, you're becoming an ambassador and an

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ambassador, as it were, just naturally through

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by doing your story. And a lot of people, I think,

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are not looking towards that. It gives some hope,

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gives people hope because you do have a great

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ending. Well, it's not an ending yet, but a great

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finish so far, 18 years on. And that's pretty,

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pretty amazing. But I mean, I'm assuming it takes

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in your, your story, your, your music career

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and all the rest of it gives you a taste of when

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you were little, maybe. Oh yes. It starts out,

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you know, basically talking about where I began.

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My father was Conway Twitty's road manager and

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it talks about me living in that life. That's

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kind of a interesting bubble to live in. and

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how I met my husband now, T .G. Shepherd. He's

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a big country star. We all know him. Yes. Do

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you know of him? That's cool. Yes. Yes. Yeah.

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And so it talks about our life and how we became

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a couple. And then it talks about how wonderful

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it was for him to stay with me as a dating partner.

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We were just dating when I became diagnosed and

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it gives men or partners. another chapter, he

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did his whole chapter and narrated it as well

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of what it feels like to stick with a partner

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going through such a tragedy. And it's a great

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encouragement for men to see another man going

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through that and the blessings that came from

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it. And it talks about the tragedy of being diagnosed,

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but even more so the tools that I got through

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to live. I wished I had had somebody like myself

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to speak with. when I was first diagnosed because

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it would have given me a lot of hope and this

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is a book of hope. I'm really wanting people

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to get take that from that. That's perfect. It

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is amazing. And as you know, me in that present

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situation with my mother, there's going to be

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thousands of people, sadly, tens of thousands

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around Europe, the UK, and in other parts of

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the British Commonwealth listening to this. And

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sadly, they are in that situation. But then again,

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they also have this opportunity of the hope that

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you're reaching out and offering people. It's

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wonderful. Now, it's an audio autobiography.

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I mean, we obviously know what that would be.

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Now is it you reading it yourself and do people

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download it or do they order it in a in a shop

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or what happens? Well what I did, I wrote the

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book by myself. I had a friend named Missy Query

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help me with the editing but I wanted it to be

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like a conversation that you're just sitting

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at the table with me listening to me tell my

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story and I knew a lot of people that you know

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weren't weren't able to see as well lately or

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were more busy with their lives and didn't have

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the time to physically sit down and read a book.

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So the audio book just became kind of something

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of demand that people needed, as well as the

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audio and I mean, there's a physical book. So

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that was a joy for me to go in and it was really

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emotional for me. I got to tell my story for

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the first time I was able to read it through

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all at one time. And I have to tell you, I cried

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at the end of it, just happy tears, joyous tears.

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Because it was like I've completed something

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could have tied a bow around it. It's a done

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project But it's it's really helping women helping

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anybody that that is going through a stressful

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situation like that to see light at the end of

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their tunnel You know, I often say that cancer

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can be a death sentence But my attitude was that

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I turned it into a life sentence by looking at

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things more appreciatively and abundantly and

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I just I just live a bit more aware of the goodness

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in life and I choose to focus on that. Now when

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you were going through your cancer, when you

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had it diagnosed and you were fighting it as

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we would in the UK. Was it your faith that helped

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you through, just true grit and determination,

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or did you still have music help you through?

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I mean, what did you turn to? Was it all things

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and more? I believe it was a combination of all

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of that. I surrounded myself with very positive

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people. The people that I felt weren't very positive.

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I just kind of steered clear of them. I chose

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to watch comedies. I chose to write a lot of

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music at that time, a lot of healing music. I

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was, you know, happily in love with TG and we

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did some traveling and just did some things that

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we might not have or might have put off. I just

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chose to live in the presence because you know

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what? We don't know what tomorrow will bring.

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No, absolutely. So I've learned to live more

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in the presence since that. And I know this sounds

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strange, but I'm really grateful that cancer

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taught me that at a young age. There is a course.

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the other victims as well. There's the children,

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the husbands, the partners and everything else.

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And I believe your book also is offering them

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all, everyone hope. It really is. Absolutely.

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I wanted to share with you, speaking of Olivia

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earlier, I know that she's beloved there as much

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as she is here, but I am so honored to be on

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her latest album. It's going to be called Just

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the Two of Us and it's a duets project. Everybody

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she's ever sung a duet with, including myself,

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is coming out May the 5th. Oh, very soon. May

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the 5th. Wonderful. Wow. Yes. So people like

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Barry Gibb, Paul Anka, Mariah Carey, Dolly Parton,

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myself, John Travolta. So many artists that she's

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recorded with in the past are going to be on

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this last album that they put out for her. And

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I'm just Looking forward to I sang the song.

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How can you mend a broken heart? Which is very

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poignant in this light that she's not here anymore

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It takes to to tangle and to to present a radio

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show so here's Nick and Sue Your musical do This

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is Nick and Sue with Cheddar Box, giving you

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all you need to know about musical entertainment.

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Cheddar Box, Cheddar Box, Cheddar Box, Cheddar

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Box, Cheddar Box. She was an absolute national

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treasure because she was British born, as I'm

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sure you're aware. Oh, yes. Yeah, true icon.

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And there was a lot of... a lot of wet eyes,

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like crying and just people upset when she went.

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We knew it was coming, of course, sadly, we all

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knew. But when it did come, that still hit. But

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she also was quite a great ambassador for breast

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cancer awareness to the extent that we all knew

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that's what she was suffering from. Yes. And

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I'm hoping to carry her torch, you know, if in

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some small way, just to I hear her voice in my

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head. a lot and it's just that of encouragement

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for other people. So, you know, perhaps your

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listeners will be able to see my story and hear

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her voice through my story as well. It's something

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that affects everybody and one out of five women,

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I believe, deal with breast cancer and it's just

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it's too much. Honestly, it's too many people

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affected. Absolutely. I had a lump over Christmas.

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It wasn't cancer or anything. It was to do with

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cysts. But how quick it took the doctor and the

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hospital to see me, within two weeks I got seen.

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But it was all clear, thankfully. Thank goodness.

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we also have to urge all the females listening

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of you know whatever whatever age they must regularly

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check themselves the reason why just females

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it's the reason why i'm saying is because my

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mother who's 84 got to 70 um i don't know how

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it just passed her by and now we've got to the

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age of 84 and we've got a lump that's a few inches

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wide and things like that so um I'm urging all

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the female listeners and the guys, they need

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to check themselves in as well. And in addition

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to that, if anything feels not quite right or

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a little bit different, and please get yourself

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checked. And I know, Kelly, you will put that

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in a much better way than I have. Yes. Well,

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if I may expand a little bit, I found a knot

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under my arm and I was told that I was too young.

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I was 36. But the person I saw on TV advocating

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and asking people to do their self -exams, she

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was much younger than myself. So I said to my

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doctor, I said, you know, I feel like this is

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something to be concerned about. She says, well,

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we'll keep an eye on it. So eight months later,

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I felt a jolt of pain in that area. And I said,

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you know what, I'm going to just force them to

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do another test on me. Eight months later, I

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did a diagnostic mammogram and an ultrasound

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and neither of them showed anything. But I told

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the lady that was doing the ultrasound, I said,

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can you push just a little bit farther in because

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you're not going deep enough? And there it was.

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So my point in the book is to be your own self

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-health advocate because you know yourself more

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than a doctor would who's just meeting you. And

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you know, if you know something's not quite right.

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Don't hesitate to ask harder questions or ask

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for more details because you, I mean it basically

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saved my life. At that point, it had already

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spread to lymph nodes and I had to lose all my

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hair with chemo and radiation. But if I had just

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been more aggressive in the very first of that,

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who knows if it would have gotten that far. Sure,

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and do you think, she wants to have a word in

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a second, do you think also there's this element

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in just the human race in general that people

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still think... that it won't happen to them or

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may not happen to them. I just wonder if there's

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that little bit of apathy still and people are

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just that, you know, they put it off, they make

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that appointment next week, next month, whatever,

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and the weeks become months, become years and

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that kind of - Sure, that's human nature, yes.

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That's the one, isn't it? Sadly. Sue, you wanted

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to say something? Kelly, this is for all the

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ladies and gentlemen out in the world. What would

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you say to them if they found a lump? Well, if

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you find a lump first of all, don't panic because

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80 % of them are benign They're no problem whatsoever.

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So that is encouraging in itself I suggest that

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you go to your doctor and be very very persistent

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because a lot of time doctors are busy or they've

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got you know, their own issues or Unfortunately,

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some medical things lately have kind of slipped

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through the cracks, but be your own advocate.

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I would suggest going straight to You know, for

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the women, the OBGYN is a good place to start.

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I would just be really adamant about your concerns.

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Ask for a diagnostic mammogram. It is much more

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detailed than a regular mammogram and your insurance

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will generally pay for it. And I suggest if you

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still have that nagging concern, go to a second

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opinion. You know, you can't offend a doctor.

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You are your own personal advocate and you've

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got to be mindful. You know that doctor might

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I've had to let go of a few doctors in my time.

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I didn't feel that one was on the same page with

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me. I thought she was just a little too busy

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and she kind of treated me like a number. And,

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you know, we've got to be mindful of whom we're

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letting in our lives. And I just didn't think

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she was as positive as I'd like for her to be.

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And so I just replaced her. I didn't know you

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could do that. I thought you were stuck with

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the doctor you started with. So, you know, take

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advantage of that too, because that's not something

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you need to play around with. The other thing,

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Kelly, as well, if somebody is having to express

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their personal parts to a doctor or consultant,

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they always can have a chaperone of the same

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sex as the person that's going. Yes, I highly

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recommend that because, you know, and also this

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is another bit of advice. If you are concerned

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about something or if the doctor's reading you

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test results, let's say, I suggest you take your

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phone in with you. We all have voicemail on our

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phone now, our voice recorder. I suggest you

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recording the conversation because when you're

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nervous like that, going into a doctor's office,

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you don't recall, you think you are. but you

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don't recall everything that's said. So that

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is another bit of advice too. I think it's really

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healthy to be able to reflect back on the conversation

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when you're not in a nervous state. You mentioned

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Kelly, just to put people... explain to people

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in the UK more. You mentioned about your insurances

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and you can, you know, you have your insurance

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in the USA, but of course we have the NHS here

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in the UK. That's true, that's true. We do have

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private like Bupa, but the NHS when it comes

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to breast cancer is open to, they're very, very

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good, very hot. We've got to just go there. But

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the thing is, of course, if you're not happy

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in the UK with your specialist, you too, although

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it's the NHS, can get a second opinion. There's

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nothing that stop you doing that. So just to

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explain in the UK, that's what people in the

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UK should do if they're not happy with their

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specialty. I mean, put yourself as a priority

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because, you know, like I said, sometimes doctors

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miss things and it's not that they're being a

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bad doctor, but you know yourself better than

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anybody does. So just listen to that inner voice.

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Now this one, I mean I've listened to some other

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stuff you've done, your songs of Take My Breath

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Away and Midnight Train to Georgia, the listeners

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are going to have a little treat with listening

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to that as well, those two as well, but I'm not

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going anywhere, which I've said to you before,

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got the vote on hit and miss. Now see Chatterbox

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UK, a lot of the stations linked to at this show

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and they put their airplay figures through to

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what's called the CBUK chart which comes out

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every Saturday and it just so happens when Obviously,

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we're going to play this song on that show. A

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lot of the stations repeat it at some other weird

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time in the night as well as a peak time. So

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basically, you need to do each station. It counts

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as one different play, although it's on the same

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show. So we are looking at 216 times 2 just by

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having the song played on this. So we've got

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432 plays just by having the song on here. That's

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a good start. Now, website is nice and easy.

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lang dot net kelly lang dot net and can find

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more about what we've been talking about and

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you and what you've released and everything else

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that can all be found on there and is there any

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other social media that you'd like to tell the

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listeners about please kelly well we love social

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media we love facebook instagram tiktok i'm trying

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to get into it's kind of hard for me but um also

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i've got another i've got an A lot of people

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think I'm just cutting a lot of cover tunes,

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but that's not necessarily the truth. I'm more

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of a songwriter than anything. So I'll have an

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inspirational album coming out in June. So be

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looking for a song called I think it's Jesus

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coming out in June. And then my husband, TG,

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and I are going to release a duets project coming

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out in the fall. I can't wait to share it with

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you guys. We'd like to get you back on for an

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interview. Please do. We do do updates and we

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love to have people back on and it's good also

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for the listeners and then they can follow someone's

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career. I mean I'm talking about some people

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have had been singing since the 50s sometimes

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as well as some more recent ones but yeah they

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love to follow. Some are back on for about 15

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minutes. They love the updates don't they? Yes.

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Especially with your hopeful story and we would

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have your duet then Olivia's duet album out as

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well by then which is coming up. By the way,

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TG is here listening to you. Say hi, TG. Hi,

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TG. Hello. How are you? We're good, thank you.

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We're good, thank you. I don't know if your ears

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were burning. We were talking about you saying

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that you're very well known in Europe and the

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UK. Well, I'll tell you what, I love it over

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there. We have a lot of dear friends that live

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there and we are looking forward to eventually

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coming over there. Matter of fact, I just released

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a new single with Anne Margaret and Pete Townsend

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of The Who. It just came out. It's a remake of

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the old Everly Brothers hit Bye Bye Love. And

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I'm sure that you can go wherever music is downloaded

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and hear it. But I just wanted to say hello and

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I look forward to meeting you face to face eventually.

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Yeah, absolutely. Well, you've made some great

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names there, TG. I know this is obviously Kelly's

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dog. Brilliant. Thanks for coming on, TG. That's

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amazing. Thank you. Good to hear your voice.

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Yeah, excellent. Thank you. Thank you. You take

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care of yourself. You're so sweet. He's sitting

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right here, so I wanted to make sure you connected

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with him. Oh, brilliant. Thank you, Kelly. Kelly

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Lang, thank you for coming on Chatterbox UK.

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And we can't wait to have you back on and have

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a little update with you. Thank you very much.

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Well, let me know when. Indeed. Thank you. Cheers.

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