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And now here they are, Nick and Sue on Chatterbox.

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When the stars talk, they talk to Nick and Sue.

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Welcome back to the Chatterbox Redux Podcast

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with Sue and Nick and today our special guest

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is Ben Westwood. And now on Chatterbox UK we're

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just lucky enough to welcome Ben Westwood. Ben,

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welcome to Chatterbox. How are you? Hello, Ben.

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I'm great, thanks. Yeah, thanks for having me.

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You're welcome. Nice to meet you at last. Nice

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to meet you almost today because we're in St.

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Leonard's and you're on the Sunshine Coast just

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up the road. So yes, at Eastbourne. So nice to

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meet you. So as it's the first time we've had

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a chat, let's talk about you and how you got

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into music and writing music and that. What influences

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did you have as a kid? What was being played

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at home and what was going on there? A lot of

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60s music, a lot of Beatles, Bob Dylan, Paul

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Simon and I remember listening to a radio program

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about the life of John Lennon and that really

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inspired me and I actually started writing songs

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soon after that when I was only 14. and have

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been doing so ever since. More in fits and starts

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in recent years, but I've returned to songwriting

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in the past year, which has been great. Cool,

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brilliant. Now, when it comes to... I mean, have

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you ever done any sort of live music? I mean,

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when you were starting out, did you ever do any

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gigging around Eastbourne, around Sussex, or

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anywhere for that matter? Yes, yeah. I mean,

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I've always gigged. I studied music in London.

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I used to gig in London back in the... In the

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90s, I had a band in Brighton in the early 2000s,

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but as a solo artist with a backing band. And

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recently, I haven't had a band recently, even

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though my recordings are with a full production.

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I tend to gig these days solo, sometimes duo

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with my mate who plays harmonica and does percussion.

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Yeah, it's always fun to gig. Perfect. OK, you've

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got some lovely little anecdotes here, some facts.

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I like some of them. I mean, you should be an

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after -dinner speaker with some of this, I tell

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you. I like the first one. Probably better. I

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mean, I love the way you shook Tony Blair's hand

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before he was Prime Minister, and no matter how

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hard you try, it just won't wash off. Stuff like

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that. I like it. Let's hear some more, because

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they're brilliant. They're better coming from

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you. Well, yeah, there's various, I mean, I've

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done stand -up comedy for a few years, which

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was fun. So I do like to see the funny side of

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life. Years ago in London, I was arrested on

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suspicion of robbery, even though I didn't remotely

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fit the description of the alleged assailant.

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He was about eight inches shorter than me with

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completely different hair. So that didn't really...

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Fill me with confidence about the meth, but never

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mind. Really? I've sung at Prince Charles's house

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at Highgrove. I keep calling him Prince Charles.

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It's King Charles. But yeah, I mean, he'll always

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be Prince Charles to me. No, the same here. It

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would break my life. Yeah. And he's exactly as

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you would expect. He actually said, I say, while

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he was talking to me. Oh, I say. Oh, wonderful.

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Wonderful. But he was Prince Charles for a very

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long time. Yes, very long time. Maybe the longest.

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I don't know if it was the longest serving. Possibly.

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log is serving on it before him quite possibly

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and uh another local local guy here you went

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to the same school as comedian eddie isard who

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of course came from bexhill sidley uh but you've

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never worn high heels well that's up to you isn't

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it really but that's my story i'm sticking to

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it yeah i like that oh dear and once got paid

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by mistake for an article written by the other

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ben westwood erotic photographer and son of the

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fashion designer Vivian, yes, okay, that's good.

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Yeah, yeah, it was quite embarrassing for a few

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years because he was quite vocal in the sadomasochistic

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scene and he was writing articles defending the

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rights of people and because we'd both written

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for the same newspaper they actually paid me

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for his article. It took me quite a few months

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to realize this but it was Quite funny. I did

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try and get in touch with him to tell him but

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I think he's so rich I don't think he would notice

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200 cred here or there. Whatever it is Perla,

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no he hadn't missed it now. And he once appeared

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on the BBC talk show Kilroy to discuss drunken

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Brits in Greece despite the fact you rarely drink

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these days. That's after reporting for the Telegraph

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apparently. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I was a I was a

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telegraph journalist for the Telegraph Are we

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going back quite a few years now as you can tell

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because a lot younger viewers wouldn't really

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even know who Kilroy is He was the main talk

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show man for quite a few years wasn't a not a

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very nice guy I have to say Didn't seem to me

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and and been a more political parties than the

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other one Yes, definitely. I do happen to subscribe

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to The Telegraph, so still a good paper. Still

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a good paper. I like that pose. Let's talk about

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you. Let's talk about Step Into The Light. Well,

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we've been talking about you, but let's talk

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about the song. How did it come about? Yeah.

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Well, I actually wrote most of the music for

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Step Into The Light. a long, long time ago, but

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I was never quite happy with the lyrics and previous

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recordings I'd done of it. So I actually rewrote

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the song very recently and I started working

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with a producer I'd never worked with. I hadn't

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really worked with producers before the last

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year. I'd really just worked with an engineer

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and kind of produced myself. But Mark Edwards,

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who plays piano for Katie Melua, has been brilliant

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and I would just go in and lay down the bare

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bones of the track and then he would come up

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with a full production as you've heard on this

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with piano and strings and guitars and we just

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deliberately went for a motile and pipe classic

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sound. The other thing is that I'm definitely

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singing better than I was a few years ago, and

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that was really noticeable on this track. When

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I lay down the vocal, I, you know, often I'm

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sort of very critical of my own vocals, but I

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was very happy with the vocal on this song. So

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it's funny really, but a lot of men get stronger

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voices in their 40s. Oh dear, I've just dropped

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how old I am. Should we say I'm not quite there,

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but yes. But it's definitely happened with me.

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I do have a stronger voice. So it's been nice.

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I feel that the song after many years has finally

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got a recording that does it justice. And I've

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had a lot of good feedback from people. People

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are enjoying it. So that's the main thing. Sure,

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sure. Now, let's step into the light. There's

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a bit more of a story to it than that. There's

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a great video out there. and basically the song's

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message is of hope and optimism and it features,

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now I'm going to make a probably a mess of this

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poor lady's surname, but it features a Ukrainian

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refugee who is also an Eastbourne resident now,

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Pilates instructor Olga Litvinova? Litvinova,

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yes. Yeah, so I met Olga about a year or so ago

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and she's a friend of mine and Yes, when I was

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thinking about how to present the song, I didn't

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want to just sing to the camera. I wanted a storyline.

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I was very struck by Olga's story. You know,

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it really does beg a belief. You know, she had

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a... happy family life and very suddenly had

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to uproot. I think she went to Poland or another

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country in Europe initially and then after a

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couple of months the whole family ended up in

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Britain and then she ended up in Eastbourne.

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So she's here with her two more or less grown

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-up children, they're teenagers I think, and

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her mother. And yeah, I think it was a a good

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sort of muse to build the song around. And we

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had a lot of luck. It was Eastbourne Seafront

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in December, and it had been really hammering

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down with rain the days before and the day after.

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But on the day we filmed it, it was beautiful

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sunshine and it all seemed to come together well.

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And I think, you know, it certainly worked with

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the song, which when I rewrote it, I wanted to

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make it quite general about companionship and

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being with other people, making you feel better,

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which is certainly the case with Olga's family

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building a new life here. I think it's something

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we should be very proud of in Britain, of how

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we've handled that situation with Ukrainian refugees.

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They contribute a lot to the the local area,

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you know, her daughter works full time in a cafe

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and she is giving Pilates classes and yeah, so

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yeah, it was nice. It felt like the right thing

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to do with the song and to give it a different

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kind of perspective. And Tutu present a radio

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show So here's Nick and Sue Your musical duo

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This is Nick and Sue with Chatterbox Giving you

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all you need to know about musical entertainment

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Chatterbox Chatterbox Chatterbox And the single,

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Step into the Light, that's not all, is it? Because

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that comes from an upcoming album, We Are Human.

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So tell us a bit more about the album, what else

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we can find on it. So, yeah, I was initially

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going to release the album next month and it

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is finished, but I've been advised by several

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people that it's much better to sort of drip

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feed several singles. So I'm now thinking the

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whole album will probably come out in May and

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the actual song, We Are Human, is going to come

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out in March and then there'll probably be a

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further single before the whole album of 11 tracks

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comes out in May. And yes, it is a mix of different

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types of songs, deliberately so, because my songwriting

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is quite diverse, and there are love songs in

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a similar vein to Step Into the Lie, but We Are

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Humour is a much more, a sort of deeper song

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in some ways, and it's looking at... the rise

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of AI and, you know, what humanity is doing at

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the moment. So I wanted to mix sort of deeper

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issues with the love songs and that's what I've

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done on the album. Brilliant, we look forward

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to that. You did mention playing in Brighton,

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in London, but it's almost like you... undersold

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yourself, because we were talking about your

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band and things and so on in Brighton. But yeah,

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you have played Brighton Dome and also at Ronnie

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Scott's. Yes, I have. I mean, Brighton Dome was

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a festival thing. Yes, I mean, I wasn't headlining

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a gig at Brighton Dome. I was playing as part

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of the Brighton Festival. But yes, I was on stage

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there. And yes, I did a gig at Ronnie Scott's

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a few years ago in London. Yeah, I've got a gig

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in Brighton on the 21st of March. I was part

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of a Leonard Cohen tribute in Brighton last weekend,

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and I was in London the weekend before. And I

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do sometimes gig in Hastings. It's a good music

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scene there. It is. Yeah, it is. Very lively.

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Yes, it's a lot different to what it was 30 and

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40 years ago. It's certainly... Turned around.

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Definitely. It's a great place for film as well

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because we've got two independent arty cinemas

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as well, which are great. One just down the road

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from us. So we've got that side of it as well.

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So it's getting quite artistic and cultured in

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many ways. So yeah, the art gallery scene as

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well. Independent art galleries at that. You

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know, just little things like that. It really

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is quite something. Proud to live in St. Louis,

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let's be honest with you, these days. Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah well actually I forgot to mention I teach

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at Hastings College part -time actually yeah

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I teach tourism there so I'm there three days

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a week so yeah I know Hastings quite well. Yes

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quite well it is only just a little bit. If the

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road's not a nightmare, it's less than half hour,

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isn't it, really, if you have a good run, so

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yeah. No, I take the train because the college

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is right next to the station, yeah. Well, it

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is, isn't it? Yes, quite, quite. So, have you

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got any questions for Ben? Yes, Ben. I'd like

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you to pick one of your songs and tell me why

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you'd pick this song to be played in a film.

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Oh, OK. I think I would actually pick We Are

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Human because I think it is the centrepiece of

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the album and I wanted to write a song that was

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both rousing and thought provoking and I could

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see it being in a, maybe a science fiction movie

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or something like that. That would be great.

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Nice, okay. I'll have to manifest that. OK, brilliant.

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Let's do some social media. Hang on. Sorry. It's

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a very rude word. I do apologize. We'll edit

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that out. We'll probably leave it in. Could I

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ask you about the lovely picture? I can't do

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the pose of you. You've got a suit on and you've

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got this pressure. I love that. Because you look

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completely different from seeing you on the Zoom

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meeting to that picture. No glasses. No glasses.

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That's me all glowed up and makeup done and everything

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in a professional photo shoot. So they polished

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me up as much as they could. But it's only six

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months ago, so it is the same guy. Yeah, I was

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pleased with that pic. What have you got planned

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for the rest of the year? I mean we got up to

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May with the album and stuff so if you were to

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come back in say six months time or so and we

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asked you well what would you like to be telling

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us that you've achieved in that time? Well, I

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mean, the song has already achieved more than

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I have with previous songs. So I'm already pretty

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pleased. I mean, we've already had 6 ,000 streams.

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We've had about 70 ,000 video views. It's been

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on quite a lot of bigger radio stations. It's

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been on boom radio playlisted. And yeah, and

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obviously I want to keep going with that. But

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as I said, I've been advised to bring out lots

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of singles. So I've definitely got at least another

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two singles in the pipeline. But actually, I'm

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already thinking about getting back in the studio

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and doing further singles for perhaps the autumn,

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because I do have a lot of songs. And in particular,

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in a similar vein to Step into the Light, I have

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songs that I... I want to work with a producer

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to really do them justice and to sing them better.

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And I think I can do that. So, yeah, there'll

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be more music coming out. Looking forward to

00:17:54.900 --> 00:17:56.839
it. Right, let's do some social media. We've

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got a website here of www .benwestwoodmusic .com.

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Now, if we click on that, we've got... The first

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thing we see is a nice little link to the video

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of Step Into The Light. However, we scroll down,

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nice and easy, because in the bottom left -hand

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corner there, we've got direct links to all your

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other social media. So nice and easy if they

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literally just go to benwestwoodmusic .com and

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right down there you've got to just click on

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your Facebook, on your Instagram, on your YouTube.

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Basically... Yeah, iTunes. It's basically...

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Yeah, and they're all Bed Westwood music, pretty

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much the handle of them. Well, apart from Spotify,

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but yeah, so it's quite easy. All just a direct

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click on there. And also in that bottom right

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hand corner, we've got X as well. So, yeah, there

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you go. It's all there. So run and read it all

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out. It's just all there. Brilliant. And a nice

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little gallery as well. there we go it's a great

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little website actually Ben so there we go thank

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you thank you it's important these days isn't

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it isn't it absolutely yeah Ben it's been great

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meeting you and I hope we do get to chat again

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so let's know what's going on please and uh every

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success of course with the single and the albums

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uh singles and the album and um yeah hopefully

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we can do it again sometime soon and just every

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success for 2026 great meeting you thanks a lot

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