WEBVTT 00:00:01.550 --> 00:00:05.990 And now here they are, Nick and Sue on Chatterbox. 00:00:06.129 --> 00:00:09.490 When the stars talk, they talk to Nick and Sue. 00:00:30.760 --> 00:00:33.460 to the Chatterbox Redux podcast with Sue and 00:00:33.460 --> 00:00:36.520 Nick, and today our special guest is Rin Heart. 00:00:51.579 --> 00:00:56.359 This is Nick and Sue, Chatterbox giving you all 00:00:56.359 --> 00:01:12.069 you need to know about music. The best news and 00:01:12.069 --> 00:01:42.569 reviews for you on Chatterbox! Ultimate Release 00:01:42.569 --> 00:01:49.129 Programme, UARP isn't it, yes. So we met you 00:01:49.129 --> 00:01:51.030 through there and obviously we spoke to many 00:01:51.030 --> 00:01:56.209 people from Martin Sutton and Kate Miso, we had 00:01:56.209 --> 00:01:58.329 some great artists from there, all very interesting, 00:01:59.030 --> 00:02:02.530 all of a very high standard as well and you're 00:02:02.530 --> 00:02:04.090 just the next to them that we come and interview, 00:02:04.189 --> 00:02:06.430 we've never met a bad one yet so there we go. 00:02:10.459 --> 00:02:12.919 So let's start at the beginnings always good 00:02:12.919 --> 00:02:14.719 before you met them of course let's start at 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:16.840 the beginning let's talk about you growing up 00:02:16.840 --> 00:02:19.639 as a as a kid we're saying what sort of music 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:22.180 were you listening to at home what what was being 00:02:22.180 --> 00:02:23.979 played at home what are your parents into because 00:02:23.979 --> 00:02:26.939 a lot of it is guided from what is in a record 00:02:26.939 --> 00:02:30.039 collection or CD collection at home so what was 00:02:30.039 --> 00:02:33.039 in that collection that might have started you 00:02:33.039 --> 00:02:36.159 on your journey? So it was a really eclectic 00:02:36.159 --> 00:02:40.919 mix. My mom was a big Who fan. My dad was into 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:45.280 Bowie and like everything from like Bowie to 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:49.120 Stevie Wonder to Van Halen. So it was a big mix. 00:02:49.500 --> 00:02:53.240 But yeah, I think it all influenced me in some 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:55.219 sort of way. I think it's safe to say that. But 00:02:55.219 --> 00:02:57.800 again, at this stage, I know stuff about you 00:02:57.800 --> 00:03:02.969 that they don't yet about your music. So yeah, 00:03:02.990 --> 00:03:05.569 okay. So when you got to becoming a teenager 00:03:05.569 --> 00:03:10.090 and stuff like that, I mean, at what point did 00:03:10.090 --> 00:03:12.810 you decide you want to be a singer -songwriter? 00:03:13.009 --> 00:03:14.729 Does that go right back to being a kid as well? 00:03:14.789 --> 00:03:17.770 Were you doing it back then? Yeah, so my first 00:03:17.770 --> 00:03:22.449 performance I did, I was four and I did a duet 00:03:22.449 --> 00:03:25.110 and it was a song called My Teddy Bear and it 00:03:25.110 --> 00:03:28.050 was like my kindergarten graduation thing, like 00:03:28.050 --> 00:03:32.639 pre -K. So that... sort of started the spark. 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:35.580 I was always performing from that point on, like 00:03:35.580 --> 00:03:39.379 doing in America, they call it NISMA. It's like 00:03:39.379 --> 00:03:45.860 a school program where you like learn songs and 00:03:45.860 --> 00:03:49.439 then perform them and get graded on it. But yeah, 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:53.020 I was always in choirs, always in music groups, 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:55.719 band, stuff like that. And then when I turned 00:03:55.719 --> 00:04:00.439 13, I was in and out of rock bands from that 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:04.680 point to now. Now in your press release, quite 00:04:04.680 --> 00:04:06.460 interestingly, we do nothing, there's nothing 00:04:06.460 --> 00:04:09.280 tabloid about Chatterbox, I promise you. I thought 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:12.879 you'd do that anyway. um but i'm quite interestingly 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:14.639 i've never never had to press release quite saying 00:04:14.639 --> 00:04:17.920 this so uh you you describe yourself as uh non 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:21.699 -binary and unapologetically queer uh which is 00:04:21.699 --> 00:04:24.040 which is a great statement no one's in any confusion 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:28.399 like that um just to um avoid any ignorance on 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:31.120 my part it would be ignorance i promise you uh 00:04:31.120 --> 00:04:34.300 non -binary i believe is when you don't associate 00:04:34.300 --> 00:04:36.939 with any gender at all but i don't know could 00:04:36.939 --> 00:04:39.759 you explain what that statement is non -binary 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:43.699 binary and I think unapologetically queer is 00:04:43.699 --> 00:04:46.439 probably quite explainable. But if you could 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:48.000 put that in your words, because this is your 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:49.800 press release, I know you're happy to talk about 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:54.240 it. So let's hear it from you. Yeah. So what 00:04:54.240 --> 00:04:56.540 they refer to as like the gender binary being 00:04:56.540 --> 00:04:59.939 male, female, non -binary is the sort of alternative 00:04:59.939 --> 00:05:02.620 to that where you don't subscribe to either gender. 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:06.980 You can then be like. and like there's many it's 00:05:06.980 --> 00:05:10.439 like a umbrella term so like within non -binary 00:05:10.439 --> 00:05:14.680 you get gender non -conformists and other stuff 00:05:14.680 --> 00:05:18.680 escapes my mind right now but it's all just sort 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:23.160 of yeah the the alternative to the sort of male 00:05:23.160 --> 00:05:27.100 female binary okay does it go more depth from 00:05:27.100 --> 00:05:29.379 that or you just or you just plod on with life 00:05:29.379 --> 00:05:32.180 and it's not one thing or the other and you just 00:05:32.180 --> 00:05:34.000 get on and write your songs and that's it and 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:38.279 you're happy with it. Is that how it is or how 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:41.279 does it work? I mean I put my socks on one foot 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:45.220 at a time but in the other reason I'm like outspoken 00:05:45.220 --> 00:05:49.379 about it is because I feel like visibility is 00:05:49.379 --> 00:05:52.759 really important for the queer community and 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:58.000 gender non -conformists like myself and I feel 00:05:58.000 --> 00:06:01.459 like it is a relevant sort of colouring to my 00:06:01.459 --> 00:06:05.459 music because it's my unique experience navigating 00:06:05.459 --> 00:06:09.579 life this way, you know? Do you think it's something 00:06:09.579 --> 00:06:12.439 that people need to be educated about a bit more 00:06:12.439 --> 00:06:14.360 or do you find people are in shock? It makes 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:16.839 no difference to me, I needed it explained a 00:06:16.839 --> 00:06:21.459 bit more, but yeah. I mean, do you feel you're 00:06:21.459 --> 00:06:25.160 there speaking on behalf of the community, perhaps? 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:30.149 I mean, not really, like, It's more for me, it's 00:06:30.149 --> 00:06:33.829 just about awareness. It's about like, being 00:06:33.829 --> 00:06:37.850 there for the other non binary kids and the other 00:06:37.850 --> 00:06:41.529 queer kids who are, you know, maybe going through 00:06:41.529 --> 00:06:46.610 things but not identifying with sort of mainstream 00:06:46.610 --> 00:06:50.750 songs because they're not written. It'll be like, 00:06:50.889 --> 00:06:53.370 I'm writing about a boy and I'm a girl or I'm 00:06:53.370 --> 00:06:55.490 writing about a girl and I'm a boy and this sort 00:06:55.490 --> 00:06:59.879 of is like a statement of I'm writing about a 00:06:59.879 --> 00:07:02.800 person to another person who could or could not 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:06.500 be queer and, you know, this may be your experience, 00:07:06.660 --> 00:07:09.560 you know what I mean? It's basically just... 00:07:09.180 --> 00:07:12.680 just open it so it's not particular. It's quite 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:15.839 nicely put isn't it? Do you find though, before 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:17.459 we move on, because we're here to talk about 00:07:17.459 --> 00:07:19.620 you as an artist and your songs that you sent 00:07:19.620 --> 00:07:23.560 me, do you find most people would be perhaps, 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:26.199 I would class it as ignorance on my part, that's 00:07:26.199 --> 00:07:28.379 why I've had to ask you, do you find most people 00:07:28.379 --> 00:07:30.480 are actually ignorant or do you find their bit, 00:07:30.639 --> 00:07:33.120 oh my god no that's not right, I mean which is 00:07:33.120 --> 00:07:34.819 the most common, is it the ignorance? I hope 00:07:34.819 --> 00:07:36.360 it's the ignorance, but which do you think is 00:07:36.360 --> 00:07:39.670 the most common with people? I'm sort of in a 00:07:39.670 --> 00:07:43.769 little like when I go and play shows and stuff 00:07:43.769 --> 00:07:48.790 like that and like talk to people I find mostly 00:07:48.790 --> 00:07:51.889 that I'm sort of in that queer community like 00:07:51.889 --> 00:07:55.829 in a little bubble so I don't really need to 00:07:55.829 --> 00:07:59.589 like explain it that often like usually they 00:07:59.589 --> 00:08:02.310 come through with like I've heard you through 00:08:02.310 --> 00:08:05.350 the network of like the great kind of other queer 00:08:05.350 --> 00:08:08.240 people so they don't really ask me about that 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:12.039 kind of stuff, but this is the first major. big 00:08:12.039 --> 00:08:16.100 interview I've ever done, so. Let's hope we don't 00:08:16.100 --> 00:08:18.600 listen from it, but obviously be prepared. I 00:08:18.600 --> 00:08:20.000 mean you put it in your press release, which 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:22.060 is great, so be prepared to be asked, but I mean 00:08:22.060 --> 00:08:24.319 that was an important point. An important point 00:08:24.319 --> 00:08:26.180 to clear up, and you're quite, how do you not 00:08:26.180 --> 00:08:27.699 put it in there? I wouldn't be asking you, of 00:08:27.699 --> 00:08:30.720 course. No, absolutely, and I'm glad to speak 00:08:30.720 --> 00:08:36.399 about it. If you just said you're unapologetically 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:38.279 clear, that's good enough, we know what that 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:41.080 is, but that we've opened something different 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:44.620 up so from people that are unapologetically straight 00:08:44.620 --> 00:08:49.220 I don't know what the word is but no um yeah 00:08:49.220 --> 00:08:50.899 it's good we've learned something I hope a lot 00:08:50.899 --> 00:08:53.299 of people at home have as well so that's uh ask 00:08:53.299 --> 00:08:54.960 a lot of questions where it's not all shock oh 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:57.320 my god that's not right that's it sort of yeah 00:08:57.320 --> 00:09:00.059 and I you know I think music brings people together 00:09:00.059 --> 00:09:01.980 of all different walks of life you know what 00:09:01.980 --> 00:09:04.840 I mean so I think it's important to represent 00:09:04.840 --> 00:09:07.820 like where you're about where you're at and just 00:09:07.820 --> 00:09:11.480 be open with people fantastic fantastic right 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:13.519 okay so i've got an email off you some time ago 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:19.259 last year and uh uh through the uh uarp which 00:09:19.259 --> 00:09:22.460 is the ultimate artist release program from martin 00:09:22.460 --> 00:09:28.980 sutton and cat amy fantastic really uh uh that's 00:09:28.980 --> 00:09:31.440 i said off there they've as well Everything they 00:09:31.440 --> 00:09:33.740 bring out is fantastic. I'll always listen to 00:09:33.740 --> 00:09:35.679 anything that anybody says that they've come 00:09:35.679 --> 00:09:37.259 from there. I will always listen to it because 00:09:37.259 --> 00:09:40.539 I know it'll be good. They're so nice as well. 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:46.840 Martin is at the top of the music business. He's 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:48.720 at the top there. He really is right up there. 00:09:49.019 --> 00:09:52.360 And I just love the name Cat Amy. It's just a 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:56.659 lovely name. So how did you find out about the 00:09:56.659 --> 00:09:59.480 Ultimate Artist Release Program and how did you 00:09:59.480 --> 00:10:04.940 get on it? Yeah. I jumped on Google and I was 00:10:04.940 --> 00:10:09.200 looking for songwriting courses to like sort 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:12.659 of better my craft. And I clicked through a bunch 00:10:12.659 --> 00:10:16.059 that were like more like college courses and 00:10:16.059 --> 00:10:18.600 they weren't like what I was really looking for. 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:20.620 I was looking for something a little bit more 00:10:20.620 --> 00:10:24.940 in depth, a little bit more. like accredited 00:10:24.940 --> 00:10:27.639 by like somebody in the industry, not like somebody 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:30.500 who's like a professional teacher. And then I 00:10:30.500 --> 00:10:33.340 found Martin through, you know, going through 00:10:33.340 --> 00:10:37.500 Google pages and yeah, I was just sold immediately. 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:41.179 So I signed up. And how long did it take you 00:10:41.179 --> 00:10:43.879 to turn your song around to actually getting 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:49.480 it out? Really not that long. It was like a couple 00:10:49.480 --> 00:10:52.700 months of learning more and more about songwriting. 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:56.879 I had already had the song recorded like sort 00:10:56.879 --> 00:10:59.480 of bare bones. Yeah. And then we went through 00:10:59.480 --> 00:11:02.840 it together and we remixed and we revamped and 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:05.580 edited things as we went along the program. So 00:11:05.580 --> 00:11:08.519 it was it was really a really good program. I 00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:12.870 can't say enough about it. Fantastic. And your 00:11:12.870 --> 00:11:18.370 debut single was called Stay. What is... I've 00:11:18.370 --> 00:11:20.090 got your press release here. I'm cheating, Barb. 00:11:20.370 --> 00:11:22.929 I'm asking on behalf of somebody listening at 00:11:22.929 --> 00:11:27.230 home. What's the influence of Stay and what's 00:11:27.230 --> 00:11:35.330 it all about? So Stay is sort of this... If you've 00:11:35.330 --> 00:11:40.230 ever been in an unrequited love sort of situationship, 00:11:40.429 --> 00:11:45.590 kind of where you are asking the person to sort 00:11:45.590 --> 00:11:48.090 of like, for lack of a better word, stay with 00:11:48.090 --> 00:11:53.690 you despite any sort of adversity. So especially 00:11:53.690 --> 00:11:58.509 being queer that came into play early on is actually 00:11:58.509 --> 00:12:02.529 about a real life scenario where I was very young. 00:12:02.529 --> 00:12:07.429 I was about 14 and I wasn't closeted. I was out 00:12:07.429 --> 00:12:10.769 as a lesbian. Um, at that point I wasn't identifying 00:12:10.769 --> 00:12:15.809 as non -binary and, um, yeah. And I was interested 00:12:15.809 --> 00:12:19.289 in this girl who was in my class and she was 00:12:19.289 --> 00:12:22.669 in the closet. So she was like, you know what 00:12:22.669 --> 00:12:26.230 I mean? It was like a secret unrequited thing. 00:12:26.389 --> 00:12:29.269 And, uh, she was like, well, you know, I would 00:12:29.269 --> 00:12:32.350 be with you, but I have a boyfriend and, you 00:12:32.350 --> 00:12:35.730 know, it's like a beard and, you know, and, um, 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:38.240 there was a lot of will they won't they sort 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:41.759 of tension and that's where it came from yeah 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:48.879 okay right so okay i hope it had a happy ending 00:12:48.879 --> 00:12:51.019 but i've got a feeling if the song came out of 00:12:51.019 --> 00:12:56.019 it quite possibly not so but it made a great 00:12:56.019 --> 00:12:59.700 song it made a fantastic happy ending is that 00:12:59.700 --> 00:13:02.840 we got we got the song out of it so you know 00:13:02.879 --> 00:13:05.200 Through every experience, you get some sort of 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:07.759 payoff eventually. Cool, yeah. And of course, 00:13:08.279 --> 00:13:10.320 the debut single, as I said, was called Stay. 00:13:10.960 --> 00:13:15.899 And as an artist, it is called itself Hot, H 00:13:15.899 --> 00:13:19.039 -A -R -T -E. So that's available for download. 00:13:19.220 --> 00:13:21.720 And you all like it and download it. So that'd 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:34.820 be pretty good. And Tutu present a radio show 00:13:34.820 --> 00:13:42.799 So here's Nick and Sue Your musical duo This 00:13:42.799 --> 00:13:45.259 is Nick and Sue with Chatterbox Giving you all 00:13:45.259 --> 00:13:47.480 you need to know about musical entertainment 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:54.659 Chatterbox Chatterbox Chatterbox Chatterbox Chatterbox 00:13:54.659 --> 00:13:57.100 Chatterbox Chatterbox Is there anymore songs 00:13:57.100 --> 00:14:01.200 in the planning? Yeah, so I've got another song 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:05.759 out sort of the end of last year. It's called 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:09.539 Used and it sort of picks up where Stay left 00:14:09.539 --> 00:14:18.220 off. And it's sort of about, you know, I'm very 00:14:18.220 --> 00:14:20.899 literal with my song titles. They're very, you 00:14:20.899 --> 00:14:24.480 get the whole gist from the title, but It's about 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:29.559 feeling used, you know, by an ex -partner and 00:14:29.559 --> 00:14:33.059 how you sort of cope. And it's sort of like a 00:14:33.059 --> 00:14:37.340 little anthem saying like, you know, screw you 00:14:37.340 --> 00:14:42.159 to whoever treated you poorly, let's say. Is 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:47.100 there anybody you'd like to sing with? Oh, lots 00:14:47.100 --> 00:14:51.720 of people, especially probably Youngblood. Right 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:56.379 now, I'm a big Youngblood fan, so yeah, I would 00:14:56.379 --> 00:14:59.100 love to. Youngblood got mentioned only a week 00:14:59.100 --> 00:15:03.139 ago also. And also, I interviewed somebody by 00:15:03.139 --> 00:15:07.059 myself the other week who's supporting Youngblood. 00:15:07.360 --> 00:15:09.799 Oh, cool. She's supporting Youngblood over here. 00:15:10.779 --> 00:15:13.740 I thought, oh, wow. So there you go. Youngblood 00:15:13.740 --> 00:15:16.879 is the artist of the moment. Yeah, brilliant. 00:15:17.139 --> 00:15:22.500 I like that. Okay, so. What is next? What do 00:15:22.500 --> 00:15:24.659 you got planning next? Because a singer songwriter 00:15:24.659 --> 00:15:26.620 never stops. I mean, you must have ideas all 00:15:26.620 --> 00:15:30.120 the time. So what's the next release going to 00:15:30.120 --> 00:15:34.120 be, do you think? I've got a few songs recorded, 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:37.740 so I'm sort of still deciding which one to put 00:15:37.740 --> 00:15:43.600 out next. But it might be. Maybe Death Proof, 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:49.539 which is sort of. Yeah, thank you. It's a song 00:15:49.539 --> 00:15:55.240 about. like my friendship like with one of my 00:15:55.240 --> 00:15:59.700 closest friends and how through the friendship 00:15:59.700 --> 00:16:01.679 and through the time that we met in our life, 00:16:01.700 --> 00:16:03.580 we were doing our masters and we were going out 00:16:03.580 --> 00:16:06.820 a lot and going clubbing and stuff. I just felt 00:16:06.820 --> 00:16:10.580 like impervious to any sort of harm like we had 00:16:10.580 --> 00:16:16.759 like a really good like You know magnetic friendship 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:19.759 that just launched us both forward to do more 00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:28.019 insane crazy stuff. So Yeah Also, let's what 00:16:28.019 --> 00:16:32.419 about doing live stuff You know performing live 00:16:32.419 --> 00:16:35.159 doing gigs and that and stuff. What about that 00:16:35.159 --> 00:16:40.840 side of things? so I'm working with a an MD and 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:45.870 he's Dealing with like the sort of like transitions 00:16:45.870 --> 00:16:48.769 in my set and try to make it really like professional 00:16:48.769 --> 00:16:52.610 I've not got too many gigs booked that are electric 00:16:52.610 --> 00:16:55.490 like full band gigs. I'm just doing acoustic 00:16:55.490 --> 00:16:58.809 stuff right now, but Yeah, big plans for the 00:16:58.809 --> 00:17:01.820 future this year. Absolutely At the moment, is 00:17:01.820 --> 00:17:04.220 it just in your city? Are we looking at touring 00:17:04.220 --> 00:17:09.240 around? Or are you, when you say big plans, does 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:12.799 that mean coming over here and seeing us and 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:16.019 doing something in the UK? I assume you're based 00:17:16.019 --> 00:17:18.579 in the US, are you? Is that right? No, no, I'm 00:17:18.579 --> 00:17:22.460 based in Leeds right now. Wow, that's not a Yorkshire 00:17:22.460 --> 00:17:26.839 accent, I know that. So could we expect to see 00:17:26.839 --> 00:17:30.019 you? Well, we're down on the south coast by Hastings, 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:33.859 near Brighton. Well, Brighton's a very interesting 00:17:33.859 --> 00:17:36.539 city. So could we expect you, it's only 30 miles 00:17:36.539 --> 00:17:39.339 along the coast, could we expect to see you performing 00:17:39.339 --> 00:17:43.460 in Brighton, maybe? No, absolutely. Yeah. It's 00:17:43.460 --> 00:17:46.839 definitely on my radar. But as of right now, 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:48.759 I think the next couple of cities I'm looking 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:53.480 at would be Leeds itself, Edinburgh and London. 00:17:53.940 --> 00:17:56.380 But Brighton's definitely someplace I'd love 00:17:56.380 --> 00:17:58.609 to play. It's up there, isn't it? It really is. 00:17:58.710 --> 00:18:03.970 It's such a great city all round. And it is always 00:18:03.970 --> 00:18:06.910 referred to as London by the sea. Yeah. It's 00:18:06.910 --> 00:18:08.769 got everything. It has. It's got everything. 00:18:08.970 --> 00:18:12.650 It's just, yeah, what a buzz. All round. Yeah, 00:18:12.710 --> 00:18:16.730 absolutely. All round. OK, so that could all 00:18:16.730 --> 00:18:19.890 be this year, could it? Hopefully. Yeah, it's 00:18:19.890 --> 00:18:24.970 all just tied up in, you know, funds and, you 00:18:24.970 --> 00:18:29.569 know, yeah, just. affording it so keep in touch 00:18:29.569 --> 00:18:31.650 and do make sure we get the press releases when 00:18:31.650 --> 00:18:33.190 you're doing this stuff so when you are on the 00:18:33.190 --> 00:18:35.490 road well hopefully you've not just done that 00:18:35.490 --> 00:18:37.349 hopefully got leads edinbury it doesn't have 00:18:37.349 --> 00:18:39.450 to be bright because we are uh international 00:18:39.450 --> 00:18:42.289 as a show uh but hopefully if you've got three 00:18:42.289 --> 00:18:44.190 or four places you mentioned edinbury you mentioned 00:18:44.190 --> 00:18:48.579 leads london I said hopefully Brighton as well 00:18:48.579 --> 00:18:50.880 but regardless that'd be enough to get you back 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:52.440 on for another interview and chat about you getting 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:55.079 on the road so we can see the next. You're an 00:18:55.079 --> 00:18:57.519 artist I'd like to stay in touch with as we speak 00:18:57.519 --> 00:19:00.619 to you as your career develops so it's just an 00:19:00.619 --> 00:19:04.400 update. We're still in contact with some of the 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:06.460 artists from Martin Sutton aren't we? Some of 00:19:06.460 --> 00:19:09.039 the artists but yeah in fact one I promote so 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:13.319 there you go. I've got a question to ask you 00:19:13.319 --> 00:19:15.460 then you do not have to answer it but you mentioned 00:19:15.460 --> 00:19:20.029 something earlier You said you had, is it schizo 00:19:20.029 --> 00:19:23.230 disorder? I can't remember. Schizo effective 00:19:23.230 --> 00:19:25.670 disorder. Yeah, yeah. How does that affect your 00:19:25.670 --> 00:19:28.069 music career? Does it help or does it hinder? 00:19:29.089 --> 00:19:33.069 It means that I take like a little more breaks 00:19:33.069 --> 00:19:36.450 than most other artists, because I find it quite 00:19:36.450 --> 00:19:39.430 emotional and cathartic to write music. And then 00:19:39.430 --> 00:19:42.049 at other times I find it a little overwhelming. 00:19:43.400 --> 00:19:47.319 you know, difficult to process, but schizoaffective 00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:53.579 disorder is, it affects like 0 .3 % of the population. 00:19:54.460 --> 00:19:59.299 It's sort of an offshoot of schizophrenia. And 00:19:59.299 --> 00:20:03.019 it's usually linked with like a mood disorder, 00:20:03.660 --> 00:20:07.099 either bipolar or depression. I have the depressive 00:20:07.099 --> 00:20:10.690 type. Um, so like it does get me down at times, 00:20:10.690 --> 00:20:13.230 but it also influences my music quite heavily 00:20:13.230 --> 00:20:17.329 and, um, makes me a more, I guess, like dynamic 00:20:17.329 --> 00:20:19.990 individual. And I get to write from a lot of 00:20:19.990 --> 00:20:21.890 different perspectives that I think a lot of 00:20:21.890 --> 00:20:25.569 people could benefit from or, uh, relate to. 00:20:26.309 --> 00:20:28.890 Thank you for that. Brilliant. So you say it 00:20:28.890 --> 00:20:32.089 influences the music. Can you say it helps as 00:20:32.089 --> 00:20:34.849 well helps you with, you know, with the depressive 00:20:34.849 --> 00:20:37.269 side of things and that does it actually help 00:20:37.269 --> 00:20:41.700 as well? Yeah, I think it like going through 00:20:41.700 --> 00:20:44.579 so when you're getting treated for schizoaffective 00:20:44.579 --> 00:20:48.720 disorder It's a combination of psychiatry and 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:51.440 therapy and I think it's made me more introspective 00:20:51.440 --> 00:20:54.640 and like aware of my feelings to go through talking 00:20:54.640 --> 00:20:57.849 therapies and um oh sorry that's my dishwasher 00:20:57.849 --> 00:21:04.630 uh yeah i think it's just made me more self -aware 00:21:04.630 --> 00:21:06.930 and and that self -awareness really translates 00:21:06.930 --> 00:21:11.210 to the lyrics of what i'm doing and yeah it helps 00:21:11.210 --> 00:21:14.569 but the best therapy of course is talking and 00:21:14.569 --> 00:21:19.809 music of course yeah absolutely no matter what 00:21:19.809 --> 00:21:25.109 the situation is it is Okay, well that's fantastic. 00:21:25.569 --> 00:21:27.190 Let's hope you have another chat this year. Let's 00:21:27.190 --> 00:21:29.009 see how you progress, but keep in touch. Yeah, 00:21:29.269 --> 00:21:33.710 please keep in touch. It would never be as slow 00:21:33.710 --> 00:21:39.079 as it was this time. I had you in the back of 00:21:39.079 --> 00:21:41.039 my mind and then I thought that's an interesting 00:21:41.039 --> 00:21:44.519 one. I think I had about two months worth of 00:21:44.519 --> 00:21:46.420 interviews and bearing in mind it's a two hour 00:21:46.420 --> 00:21:49.359 show and it can be three or four interviews sometimes, 00:21:49.779 --> 00:21:57.180 between two and four we say. What's the artist's 00:21:57.180 --> 00:22:01.059 name? What's the Northumbria one's name? Then 00:22:01.059 --> 00:22:05.059 somebody else wrote from The Ultimate Artist. 00:22:05.299 --> 00:22:08.420 I thought, yes, it came. And then I thought, 00:22:08.579 --> 00:22:11.339 yes, UARP. Then I tapped in that. And then up 00:22:11.339 --> 00:22:15.079 you came from September. Oh, cool. It was actually 00:22:15.079 --> 00:22:18.180 another one. So yes, I do apologize. But every 00:22:18.180 --> 00:22:21.049 so often I kept thinking. Why was that non -binary? 00:22:21.130 --> 00:22:22.990 I really want to get them on, it's interesting. 00:22:23.490 --> 00:22:25.250 I really want to get them on, you know, and I 00:22:25.250 --> 00:22:29.730 like the song. So honestly, it was more to do 00:22:29.730 --> 00:22:33.150 with it taking so long. What the hell, they're 00:22:33.150 --> 00:22:35.609 bloody cold. How are they cold? Because I get 00:22:35.609 --> 00:22:38.450 thousands of dollars a week, you see. No, I totally 00:22:38.450 --> 00:22:41.829 get you, yeah. So it was meant to be, and I'm 00:22:41.829 --> 00:22:44.309 glad it was, so keep the press releases coming. 00:22:44.910 --> 00:22:48.960 Yeah, thank you. Before we let you go, Social 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:50.859 media, you've got loads of it here. Let's do 00:22:50.859 --> 00:22:53.619 a website, whatever, let's do that. Probably 00:22:53.619 --> 00:22:55.660 most of it can be linked from there, but yeah, 00:22:56.119 --> 00:23:00.160 let's do the social media. Cool. So my website 00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:05.240 is heart, h -a -r -t -e dot rocks. Yeah, I thought 00:23:05.240 --> 00:23:10.839 it was cool, so. Yeah. And then my personal Instagram, 00:23:11.019 --> 00:23:15.269 which I'm mostly on, is Rin Makes Music. But 00:23:15.269 --> 00:23:17.910 I've also got Heart Makes Music, so it's all 00:23:17.910 --> 00:23:22.910 very uniform, same across TikTok. Yeah, so if 00:23:22.910 --> 00:23:24.369 you wanted to find me, that's how you could. 00:23:24.690 --> 00:23:29.150 Yeah, well, I dare say the website has links 00:23:29.150 --> 00:23:30.730 to virtually everything, but I can see here, 00:23:30.829 --> 00:23:35.750 you're on Spotify, YouTube, TikTok. Yeah. Basically, 00:23:36.329 --> 00:23:38.470 you're pretty good on social media, aren't you, 00:23:38.490 --> 00:23:41.730 really? Yeah, I'd like to think so. Yeah, I think 00:23:41.730 --> 00:23:43.710 so, but here it all is, actually. Well, I was 00:23:43.710 --> 00:23:46.670 looking. And we wish you all the best with your 00:23:46.670 --> 00:23:49.130 music career, okay? Yeah, for success with everything, 00:23:49.369 --> 00:23:51.849 Rin. So, yeah, at least be safe for now. Rin 00:23:51.849 --> 00:23:54.910 Heart, okay, Heart, thank you so much for coming 00:23:54.910 --> 00:23:57.490 on Chatsbox. No, it was a pleasure. Thank you 00:23:57.490 --> 00:24:00.369 so much. Really great meeting you. You take care, 00:24:00.710 --> 00:24:03.349 Miss Pixie. All right. Thank you, see you later. 00:24:03.390 --> 00:24:30.970 Bye. Bye. 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