WEBVTT 00:00:01.550 --> 00:00:05.990 And now here they are, Nick and Sue on Chatterbox. 00:00:06.150 --> 00:00:09.550 When the stars talk, they talk to Nick and Sue. 00:00:33.229 --> 00:00:35.469 Welcome back to the Chatterbox Redux Podcast 00:00:35.469 --> 00:00:38.310 with me, Nick. I'm your host today and my special 00:00:38.310 --> 00:00:41.770 guest is Sonja Beldum of The Unbelieveable Podcast. 00:01:05.739 --> 00:01:10.219 This is Nick and Sue with Chatterbox giving you 00:01:10.219 --> 00:01:14.599 all you need to know about musical entertainment 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:22.400 Chatterbox the best interviews with Nick and 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:36.120 Sue the best news And now on Chatterbox UK, we're 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:38.219 just lucky enough to welcome Sonia Beldham. Sonia, 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:41.739 welcome to Chatterbox. How are you? I'm really 00:01:41.739 --> 00:01:43.939 well, thank you, Nick. Yeah, great. Looking forward 00:01:43.939 --> 00:01:46.739 to Mother's Day. Sure you are. Absolutely. It's 00:01:46.739 --> 00:01:50.319 going to be a busy day for you. All right. I 00:01:50.319 --> 00:01:52.159 have been listening to the podcast since I found 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:54.400 out about you. And in fact, I was listening to 00:01:54.400 --> 00:01:57.719 it not long ago. the latest edition as well. 00:01:58.799 --> 00:02:00.579 Now, quite a career. Let's not just start with 00:02:00.579 --> 00:02:03.739 a podcast. Let's start with your career in BBC 00:02:03.739 --> 00:02:06.340 Light Entertainment. You started off as a junior 00:02:06.340 --> 00:02:08.379 producer, I think, on the news headlines and 00:02:08.379 --> 00:02:11.000 shows like that, and becoming a fully fledged 00:02:11.000 --> 00:02:13.039 producer on light programming. Tell us about 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:16.300 some of the programmes and maybe your experiences 00:02:16.300 --> 00:02:18.379 and some of the people you work with. Let's talk 00:02:18.379 --> 00:02:21.050 about that for a... Well, it was great, because 00:02:21.050 --> 00:02:23.509 I always wanted to go and work at the BBC. In 00:02:23.509 --> 00:02:25.409 fact, when I was 18, I was at school. I marched 00:02:25.409 --> 00:02:27.909 up to Broadcasting House and went up to reception 00:02:27.909 --> 00:02:29.550 and said, hello, I'd like to work for the BBC. 00:02:29.990 --> 00:02:32.009 And this woman said, do you have an appointment 00:02:32.009 --> 00:02:34.229 with anybody? I went, no, no. I just thought, 00:02:34.629 --> 00:02:36.669 oh my god. So I was very cheeky. I'd always wanted 00:02:36.669 --> 00:02:38.229 to work for the BBC. And then when I finally 00:02:38.229 --> 00:02:40.449 got a training producership in live entertainment, 00:02:41.370 --> 00:02:43.430 there was a wonderful photograph in the Sunday 00:02:43.430 --> 00:02:45.810 Times of the BBC live entertainment department. 00:02:45.889 --> 00:02:49.189 And it was all men. And so I thought, oh, this 00:02:49.189 --> 00:02:51.330 is interesting. So one of the questions they 00:02:51.330 --> 00:02:52.669 said, well, what do you think you'd bring to 00:02:52.669 --> 00:02:54.810 this that we don't have already? I said, well, 00:02:54.849 --> 00:02:58.250 I'm female for a start. And there's a lot of, 00:02:58.330 --> 00:03:00.550 you know, anyway, and it was great fun. But I 00:03:00.550 --> 00:03:03.050 thought Radio Light Entertainment would be like 00:03:03.050 --> 00:03:05.169 living in the Goon show. I thought it would be 00:03:05.169 --> 00:03:08.840 hilarious jokes. 24 -7. No, it was very serious, 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:11.680 but it was great. I worked on the headlines with 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:14.460 wonderful Roy Hud and he was fabulous, of course, 00:03:14.860 --> 00:03:17.400 and I met a wonderful writer there called Tony 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:20.240 Hare and I worked a lot with him and so the headlines 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:23.259 were great. I did a show called beat the record 00:03:23.259 --> 00:03:26.740 with Keith Fordyce, which was instrumental versions 00:03:26.740 --> 00:03:28.879 of classic, you know, hits and everyone had to 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:30.199 phone in or whatever, so that was great fun. 00:03:30.659 --> 00:03:32.439 Yeah, so I did lots of work on Life's Entertainment 00:03:32.439 --> 00:03:34.500 and it was basically coming up with silly ideas 00:03:34.500 --> 00:03:37.759 for programmes. I did a big show with Barry Crier 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:39.939 called Funny That Way, which was an interesting 00:03:39.939 --> 00:03:43.120 one because that was all archive interviews from 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:45.979 famous comedians of them talking about their 00:03:45.979 --> 00:03:48.219 own life cut together with sketches so that was 00:03:48.219 --> 00:03:51.139 like a big edit program that was great fun and 00:03:51.139 --> 00:03:54.340 then i went to radio 2 which was pretty much 00:03:54.340 --> 00:03:56.800 my heartland really because coming from a musical 00:03:56.800 --> 00:03:59.020 background and all the wonderful music we played 00:03:59.020 --> 00:04:01.300 at radio 2 so i worked with all the greats there 00:04:01.300 --> 00:04:03.780 i was very lucky to work with people like terry 00:04:03.780 --> 00:04:06.479 wogan gloria hunniford john dunn in the early 00:04:06.479 --> 00:04:09.840 days brian matthew who did around midnight and 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:14.830 i loved it Chaz and Dave, I did a big music live 00:04:14.830 --> 00:04:17.610 music series with Chaz and Dave and I ended up 00:04:17.610 --> 00:04:20.970 doing lots of work on Radio 2 as a sort of events 00:04:20.970 --> 00:04:23.350 and live music producer so I worked with some 00:04:23.350 --> 00:04:27.110 fabulous musicians I just loved it and was always 00:04:27.110 --> 00:04:29.029 bossing other people around what to do whenever 00:04:29.029 --> 00:04:31.129 and whenever I could I'd get on the microphone 00:04:31.129 --> 00:04:33.610 and do my own introductions you know studio shows 00:04:33.610 --> 00:04:36.170 and all that so I suppose I've always wanted 00:04:36.170 --> 00:04:38.680 to be on the other side of the mic as well. And 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:41.720 then when this opportunity came up to do Unbelieveable 00:04:41.720 --> 00:04:45.620 on the podcast, I thought, aha, I can spread 00:04:45.620 --> 00:04:47.740 my presenter wings like you, Nick, and actually 00:04:47.740 --> 00:04:50.000 get on the other side of the mic, which was brilliant. 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:52.720 So that's kind of how it came about. And the 00:04:52.720 --> 00:04:56.079 podcast itself came about because I started a 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:59.240 blog called Sonia's Mum, which I started putting 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:01.519 funny stories out when my real mum, bless her 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:05.180 heart, she was 80. when she was diagnosed with 00:05:05.180 --> 00:05:07.420 different mental health conditions. And she was 00:05:07.420 --> 00:05:09.519 very funny. She was inappropriate, embarrassing 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:12.740 and difficult, but she was very funny. And so 00:05:12.740 --> 00:05:15.819 I started blogging about her. And then that got 00:05:15.819 --> 00:05:19.920 me onto Jeremy Vine, who was on Radio 2, as you 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:23.360 know. And he said, come on and do a quick Mother's 00:05:23.360 --> 00:05:26.259 Day. special six minutes or so i was on for 45 00:05:26.259 --> 00:05:29.600 minutes and um and they had people opening in 00:05:29.600 --> 00:05:33.680 and it was amazing and uh so a lot of i just 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:36.319 thought to be honest it's a blog site i'm doing 00:05:36.319 --> 00:05:39.410 it for my own sort of, you know, catharsis, I 00:05:39.410 --> 00:05:41.449 suppose, describing about my mom. I thought no 00:05:41.449 --> 00:05:44.129 one's going to listen. Who am I, you know? But 00:05:44.129 --> 00:05:46.610 then people did. And people started contacting 00:05:46.610 --> 00:05:48.310 me saying that they thought maybe their mothers 00:05:48.310 --> 00:05:50.670 had had problems and they weren't discussed properly, 00:05:51.370 --> 00:05:53.029 mental health being a big thing within families. 00:05:53.170 --> 00:05:55.970 And so and then the podcast came out of that, 00:05:56.129 --> 00:05:57.889 which was which has been great. And it's been 00:05:57.889 --> 00:06:00.829 going for a couple of years now. We started on 00:06:00.829 --> 00:06:04.310 Mother's Day. two years ago yeah and and it's 00:06:04.310 --> 00:06:06.949 just attracting some really great names great 00:06:06.949 --> 00:06:11.269 stories you know it's it's fun it's deep it's 00:06:11.269 --> 00:06:13.129 it's difficult some of the conversations but 00:06:13.129 --> 00:06:15.829 on the whole it's shining a spotlight on who 00:06:15.829 --> 00:06:18.990 mums are and what they've given us you have you 00:06:18.990 --> 00:06:22.389 have had some great guests on the uh yeah really 00:06:22.389 --> 00:06:25.290 great guests i just think you're going about 00:06:25.290 --> 00:06:28.970 radio too the comedy and that that podcast for 00:06:28.970 --> 00:06:30.990 a sec brought back some great memories because 00:06:30.990 --> 00:06:35.730 I became quite a fan of radio 2 I bought a radio 00:06:35.730 --> 00:06:38.569 a battery radio transistor type thing for my 00:06:38.569 --> 00:06:41.170 10th birthday now that was in the 70s but of 00:06:41.170 --> 00:06:44.089 course back in the 70s the radio 2 had some really 00:06:44.089 --> 00:06:48.720 great comedy on Most kids have been listening 00:06:48.720 --> 00:06:50.860 to Radio Luxembourg late at night. I was listening 00:06:50.860 --> 00:06:53.379 to the Peter Goodwright show at 10pm and things 00:06:53.379 --> 00:06:56.379 like that. And they were very good shows. Roy 00:06:56.379 --> 00:06:58.240 Castle did a great show. There was some amazing 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:02.920 comedy on there. It was. It was. It's a different 00:07:02.920 --> 00:07:07.439 radio station to what it is now, although Jeremy 00:07:07.439 --> 00:07:09.639 Vine's OK and I like Sarah Cox. There's still 00:07:09.639 --> 00:07:12.019 some good ones on there, you know, but at times 00:07:12.019 --> 00:07:17.209 change. the age of the listeners change because 00:07:17.209 --> 00:07:20.470 when I was there they um I mean I left there 00:07:20.470 --> 00:07:24.069 late 90s so it's a good while ago now um and 00:07:24.069 --> 00:07:25.949 they were very much looking for the audience 00:07:25.949 --> 00:07:31.149 35 to 55 that's a young adult into early early 00:07:31.149 --> 00:07:35.670 age you know pensioner age um but now they realize 00:07:35.670 --> 00:07:38.850 that so many people listen to wonderful podcasts 00:07:38.850 --> 00:07:41.769 like ours and uh and make their own selections 00:07:41.769 --> 00:07:44.139 that they're trying to sort of hoover up the 00:07:44.139 --> 00:07:46.480 younger people who've come off Radio 1. So Radio 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:49.199 2 very much is the sort of catch the Radio 1 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:51.699 lot before they go off and start podcasting. 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:53.800 So it's a much younger audience. And I think 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:55.680 with that comes a slightly different, you know, 00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:57.319 you don't really hear the things that I used 00:07:57.319 --> 00:08:00.420 to play like Doris Day and Frank Sinatra and 00:08:00.420 --> 00:08:02.519 Mantovani. You don't hear that anymore on Radio 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:06.620 2. But then, you know, I still play it. I played 00:08:06.620 --> 00:08:09.620 on my live shows. In fact, I'm a big fan. In 00:08:09.620 --> 00:08:12.680 fact, Sue, my partner, only played, was it tonight 00:08:12.680 --> 00:08:15.360 she's playing? Doris Day. Anyway, Doris Day was 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:20.720 last Thursday, so yeah, absolutely, but real 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:24.399 easy listening, yeah. But as you say about the 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:27.319 podcast thing, because we started the Chats bar, 00:08:27.399 --> 00:08:30.100 I mean, I've been started in radio, local radio 00:08:30.100 --> 00:08:37.159 back in the 80s in Brighton. But radio was the... 00:08:37.939 --> 00:08:41.559 medium as such and right up until the lockdown 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:45.379 I say which is when we gave birth to Chatterbox 00:08:45.379 --> 00:08:47.279 it started during the lockdown because there 00:08:47.279 --> 00:08:50.120 was so much talent out there all types not just 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:53.200 musicians but people like yourself and actors 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:56.720 and all sorts of people that were available all 00:08:56.720 --> 00:09:00.340 of a sudden there was a lot of talent there and 00:09:00.340 --> 00:09:02.779 Sue and I just said to each other this is our 00:09:02.779 --> 00:09:04.759 Sunday afternoon show on Radio North Sea International 00:09:04.759 --> 00:09:06.759 said we've got something here so Chatterbox was 00:09:06.759 --> 00:09:09.399 born started with 12 radio stations and we did 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:12.600 up where it is now but in recent times I've found 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:16.259 myself listening to podcasts now I am in that 00:09:16.259 --> 00:09:22.039 age group of late 50s and I'm listening to podcasts 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:24.580 I'm not watching documentaries on YouTube anymore 00:09:25.139 --> 00:09:27.240 I'll have the radio on in the car, but not any 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:30.100 other time. And so I'm there podcasting it. I 00:09:30.100 --> 00:09:34.200 can cook and podcast. And I just thought, well, 00:09:34.279 --> 00:09:36.940 this is why the Chatterbox Redux podcast got 00:09:36.940 --> 00:09:40.860 born as well. Well, let's put it another way. 00:09:41.720 --> 00:09:45.779 It got monetized in 40 hours of launch. So it 00:09:45.779 --> 00:09:48.759 was a good start. That obviously is a way forward, 00:09:48.860 --> 00:09:52.860 this podcast. rather than you trying to find 00:09:52.860 --> 00:09:55.500 200 radio stations and keep keep mailing radio 00:09:55.500 --> 00:09:58.659 station after the podcast there isn't it it's 00:09:58.659 --> 00:10:02.559 got it is the future definitely It feels like 00:10:02.559 --> 00:10:05.259 it and I suppose everyone's got a story and it's 00:10:05.259 --> 00:10:07.899 a crowded old market out there as you know. You 00:10:07.899 --> 00:10:09.679 know there are lots of people doing the podcast 00:10:09.679 --> 00:10:14.080 now but then it's a lovely intimate way of doing 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:15.980 it and I think also because there are no holds 00:10:15.980 --> 00:10:17.980 barred I mean you can say things on the podcast 00:10:17.980 --> 00:10:21.379 that you probably would hesitate to say on the 00:10:21.379 --> 00:10:24.620 national radio station but you can be more intimate 00:10:24.620 --> 00:10:28.409 on the podcast and I find that's where the Unbelieveable 00:10:28.409 --> 00:10:31.269 guests are so good because they talk about things 00:10:31.269 --> 00:10:34.669 that are really quite deep and personal and these 00:10:34.669 --> 00:10:36.990 are things they probably wouldn't normally talk 00:10:36.990 --> 00:10:40.909 about on national platforms in a way but they 00:10:40.909 --> 00:10:43.330 can on a podcast because it feels very intimate 00:10:43.330 --> 00:10:46.210 so I've been very lucky getting some really great 00:10:46.210 --> 00:10:49.330 people on sure and some of the guests that we've 00:10:49.330 --> 00:10:52.929 shared I see that you've had Suzy Quattro on 00:10:54.069 --> 00:10:56.830 Oh, yes. And she's fantastic. We only interviewed 00:10:56.830 --> 00:10:59.350 her last a couple of weeks or so back. And she's 00:10:59.350 --> 00:11:03.629 amazing. She's so witty. She's so funny. And 00:11:03.629 --> 00:11:05.870 I hope she came on and mentioned her graveyard 00:11:05.870 --> 00:11:08.250 book, because that was brilliant. Oh, she did. 00:11:08.830 --> 00:11:11.710 She did. It's just brilliant, isn't it? So funny. 00:11:11.889 --> 00:11:13.590 And just what do you want written on it? I'm 00:11:13.590 --> 00:11:15.029 not sure what you'd want written on your grave, 00:11:15.090 --> 00:11:16.370 though, but I'm going to have written on mine. 00:11:16.549 --> 00:11:20.149 Didn't anybody tell you? Because that's always 00:11:20.149 --> 00:11:22.580 been. that's been a mantra all throughout life 00:11:22.580 --> 00:11:24.539 i've got my job at radio too i was on holiday 00:11:24.539 --> 00:11:26.940 i came back from holiday i was freelancing right 00:11:26.940 --> 00:11:29.679 i came back i thought oh i've got a week's worth 00:11:29.679 --> 00:11:32.580 of freelance you know and then nothing and uh 00:11:32.580 --> 00:11:34.039 and they kept saying oh what you're doing you 00:11:34.039 --> 00:11:36.220 know in two weeks time i was like oh i don't 00:11:36.220 --> 00:11:39.059 know and really what do you mean you don't know 00:11:39.059 --> 00:11:41.139 i said well you know what it's like in freelance 00:11:41.139 --> 00:11:43.899 and then there's something somebody said didn't 00:11:43.899 --> 00:11:47.120 anybody tell you i went no oh you've got a job 00:11:47.120 --> 00:11:50.679 here you're permanent now oh Oh brilliant! Well 00:11:50.679 --> 00:11:53.639 that was the best interview I ever did. I like 00:11:53.639 --> 00:11:58.440 it. I have got mine worked out. I have got mine 00:11:58.440 --> 00:12:01.899 worked out actually and Susie does know it. And 00:12:01.899 --> 00:12:05.620 it's quite simply, it's what you would have wanted. 00:12:07.340 --> 00:12:11.259 Oh yes. At every funeral everybody says it's 00:12:11.259 --> 00:12:12.659 what they would have wanted. Of course it's not 00:12:12.659 --> 00:12:14.220 what they bloody wanted. They didn't know the 00:12:14.220 --> 00:12:17.159 people. How do they know? So it's what you would 00:12:17.159 --> 00:12:18.899 have wanted is what's going on the gravestone. 00:12:19.460 --> 00:12:21.500 Oh there you go, well I'll come and visit you 00:12:21.500 --> 00:12:24.700 then. Well I'll be up against the wall at the 00:12:24.700 --> 00:12:26.700 back of Hastings Cemetery, right up against the 00:12:26.700 --> 00:12:33.519 wall there. I lived there for a while with my 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:36.659 mum, my lovely, unbelievable mum. I lived in 00:12:36.659 --> 00:12:41.519 St Leonard's, so not far from you. I went to 00:12:41.519 --> 00:12:46.580 a school there run by nuns and I didn't like 00:12:46.580 --> 00:12:49.940 it. They were all a bit too Too strict for me. 00:12:50.220 --> 00:12:55.779 And they found my mum very, very confusing. It 00:12:55.779 --> 00:12:58.240 was good fun. Lovely part of the world. I do 00:12:58.240 --> 00:13:00.299 miss being by the sea, I have to say. Being in 00:13:00.299 --> 00:13:03.960 London is great for some things, you know, but 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:07.100 lovely every morning walking by the sea. You 00:13:07.100 --> 00:13:19.710 know, very lucky. And Tutu present a radio show 00:13:19.710 --> 00:13:28.009 So here's Nick and Sue Your musical duo This 00:13:28.009 --> 00:13:30.450 is Nick and Sue with Chatterbox Giving you all 00:13:30.450 --> 00:13:32.669 you need to know about musical entertainment 00:13:32.669 --> 00:13:38.740 Chatterbox Chatterbox Chatterbox Shatterbox! 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:42.259 Shatterbox! Shatterbox! Have you had, it is basically, 00:13:42.519 --> 00:13:44.759 I could turn this from Suzy Quattro back to you 00:13:44.759 --> 00:13:46.940 actually, because Suzy said that when she did 00:13:46.940 --> 00:13:50.480 the graveyard book actually, she had some surprises. 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:52.240 There's people that she's had dinner with that 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:54.620 have been really really funny, but they suddenly 00:13:54.620 --> 00:13:58.659 became serious when it came to the graveyard 00:13:58.659 --> 00:14:01.940 book. Now, have you had any surprises with guests? 00:14:02.159 --> 00:14:03.620 You don't have to name them, of course. I'd like 00:14:03.620 --> 00:14:05.379 you to, but you don't have to. I would be doing 00:14:05.379 --> 00:14:07.500 my job if I didn't ask. But have you had any 00:14:07.500 --> 00:14:09.940 real surprises where people haven't been, as 00:14:09.940 --> 00:14:11.740 you would expect, if they'd been the opposite? 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:15.259 Absolutely. And people getting very emotional. 00:14:15.740 --> 00:14:19.879 I mean, I worked... So one in particular was... 00:14:19.759 --> 00:14:22.779 There's a gardener called Danny Clark, and he 00:14:22.779 --> 00:14:25.159 does a lot of stuff with Alan Titus on ITV. He's 00:14:25.159 --> 00:14:28.639 brilliant. Very cool black guy. Dreadlocks. Super 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:33.200 cool. And very, very laid back and funny. And 00:14:33.200 --> 00:14:35.759 when he came on, he was very nervous. And I was 00:14:35.759 --> 00:14:38.320 like, well, I'm surprised that you're so naturally 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:40.759 funny on air, you know. I didn't say this to 00:14:40.759 --> 00:14:47.440 him, obviously. This is quite hard work. And 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:51.399 it turned out that he had really struggled with 00:14:51.399 --> 00:14:53.419 the idea of coming on because he was going to 00:14:53.419 --> 00:14:56.559 reveal for the very first time that his mother 00:14:56.559 --> 00:15:00.340 had been a very violent mother. And he'd got 00:15:00.340 --> 00:15:03.399 to school with bruises and cuts on his face and 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:07.539 all that. But he'd managed. He said that he had 00:15:07.539 --> 00:15:09.860 a conversation with her in the last years, last 00:15:09.860 --> 00:15:12.779 hours of her life. And we were talking about 00:15:12.779 --> 00:15:14.659 how important it is to have those conversations 00:15:14.659 --> 00:15:16.850 with people. quite an interesting one. David 00:15:16.850 --> 00:15:19.909 Bredeal was hilarious because it turned out that 00:15:19.909 --> 00:15:24.049 we, our mothers were obviously twins and separated 00:15:24.049 --> 00:15:28.549 at birth because they were so similar and I never 00:15:28.549 --> 00:15:30.490 thought I'd be able to make David Bredeal laugh 00:15:30.490 --> 00:15:34.409 but I did so that was good. Another one again, 00:15:34.629 --> 00:15:37.610 again a sort of poignant one really was lovely 00:15:37.610 --> 00:15:40.730 Ainsley Harriot because he talks about his mum, 00:15:40.850 --> 00:15:43.629 Pepe, coming over from the Caribbean, bringing 00:15:43.629 --> 00:15:46.409 all the influences with her, having a problem, 00:15:46.690 --> 00:15:48.789 obviously struggling to fit in when she came 00:15:48.789 --> 00:15:52.629 over, being a sort of, you know, from a different 00:15:52.629 --> 00:15:55.889 culture. But then we got round that, and then 00:15:55.889 --> 00:15:58.289 when I talked about him and fame and what his 00:15:58.289 --> 00:16:00.289 mum must have felt like, he got very emotional 00:16:00.289 --> 00:16:03.950 because his mum had never seen him on telly, 00:16:03.990 --> 00:16:07.679 so didn't know famous Ainsley. And that was interesting. 00:16:08.399 --> 00:16:10.419 And going back to Susie, the interesting thing 00:16:10.419 --> 00:16:14.039 I found about Susie was that she was so, you 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:17.399 know what she's like, she's so strident and opinionated 00:16:17.399 --> 00:16:19.799 and wonderful and loud and colourful. When she 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:22.240 spoke about her mother, she became really quite 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:27.620 very gentle and very very considered. And she 00:16:27.620 --> 00:16:29.740 said, my mother, she said, I said, how was your 00:16:29.740 --> 00:16:35.840 mum unbelievable? She said, Mickey Most's Mickey 00:16:35.840 --> 00:16:38.480 Mouse's wife was sitting next to me once, and 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:40.399 she was telling me how wonderful my mother was. 00:16:41.059 --> 00:16:43.899 And she said, no, exactly why was she so wonderful? 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:46.559 And Mickey Mouse's wife said, well, she was the 00:16:46.559 --> 00:16:51.460 most decent woman I've ever met. And Susie Quattro 00:16:51.460 --> 00:16:53.679 got... And again, quite emotional. She said, 00:16:53.700 --> 00:16:55.700 I'd never really thought of my mum as decent. 00:16:55.919 --> 00:17:01.440 I'd thought of my mum as loud and bossy and different. 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:07.480 So it's those moments when people unleash themselves 00:17:07.480 --> 00:17:08.880 really. And they become, I think, when people 00:17:08.880 --> 00:17:11.539 talk about their mothers, they become very honest 00:17:11.539 --> 00:17:15.700 and very authentic. I found that lovely. And 00:17:15.700 --> 00:17:17.700 people that are always up, up, up all the time, 00:17:17.859 --> 00:17:19.859 like Supala, for example, she's hilarious all 00:17:19.859 --> 00:17:22.759 the time. She spoke about how mom and she became 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:27.539 very emotional and loved the process of it. But 00:17:27.539 --> 00:17:29.779 it's like there's a connection that people almost 00:17:29.779 --> 00:17:32.680 go back to being childlike again when they talk 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:35.119 about their moms, because obviously there's that 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:37.980 early connection in life. So yes, to answer your 00:17:37.980 --> 00:17:40.339 question, quite a few interesting reactions. 00:17:42.790 --> 00:17:46.630 Okay so Mumbelievable is I guess you're on all 00:17:46.630 --> 00:17:50.589 platforms? Absolutely I mean you can get anywhere 00:17:50.589 --> 00:17:55.029 so it's all over the place and you can you can 00:17:55.029 --> 00:17:57.869 get it on on Spotify iTunes anywhere like that 00:17:57.869 --> 00:18:00.289 literally just put Mumbelievable my name's Sonia 00:18:00.289 --> 00:18:04.680 Beldham it's also You can go through my blog 00:18:04.680 --> 00:18:06.859 site, which was the original site where I blogged 00:18:06.859 --> 00:18:09.579 all about my mum called Sonia's Mum. And then 00:18:09.579 --> 00:18:12.420 the website has a link to the podcast on there. 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:14.019 So that's quite interesting. People like that 00:18:14.019 --> 00:18:15.799 because it gives the context of how it all came 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:18.619 about. And they are funny, the stories, even 00:18:18.619 --> 00:18:20.779 though I say so myself. My mum was the comedian. 00:18:20.839 --> 00:18:24.460 I'm just the teller of stories. But yes, absolutely. 00:18:24.900 --> 00:18:27.480 And I just love it. And I love the fact that 00:18:27.480 --> 00:18:29.819 so many nice people are coming on. Is that Sue? 00:18:31.769 --> 00:18:33.430 Yeah, we haven't worked on it yet. I thought 00:18:33.430 --> 00:18:35.269 Sue couldn't make it today. She's been letting 00:18:35.269 --> 00:18:38.990 people in and out. Hiya! Hopefully we can do 00:18:38.990 --> 00:18:43.250 it again sometime and have Sue in on it as well. 00:18:43.450 --> 00:18:46.750 That'd be nice, yeah. There's no reason why we 00:18:46.750 --> 00:18:50.750 can't do it again. No reason at all. Now, out 00:18:50.750 --> 00:18:53.329 of interest, Odia, are all of your guests sort 00:18:53.329 --> 00:19:12.579 of more of Westwinkle as well? When it comes 00:19:12.579 --> 00:19:16.559 to your guests, are they all famous people or 00:19:16.559 --> 00:19:19.319 are they people from the literary world or the 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:22.579 world of entertainment or do you have people 00:19:22.579 --> 00:19:26.519 that maybe more normal people perhaps more community 00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:28.599 people that might have got an OBE in their community 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:31.180 for being a lollipop person or something so do 00:19:31.180 --> 00:19:33.339 you get so so do you get more sort of like normal 00:19:33.339 --> 00:19:35.980 people it's a terrible way of wording it normal 00:19:35.980 --> 00:19:41.380 people but average average people whatever the 00:19:41.380 --> 00:19:47.200 wording is do you have people all walks of life, 00:19:47.339 --> 00:19:49.519 yes, and it's expanding more at the moment, Nick, 00:19:49.619 --> 00:19:52.440 because it started off by being superstars, you 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:55.819 know, Sue Pollard, Bobby Crush, all people I'd 00:19:55.819 --> 00:19:59.839 sort of worked with. And then it became more, 00:19:59.839 --> 00:20:02.799 I was working with, say, a professor of neuroscience 00:20:02.799 --> 00:20:05.980 that I'd... I do another podcast with called 00:20:05.980 --> 00:20:08.720 Mempathy and I was working with her and we were 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:10.680 talking about memory loss and how to deal with 00:20:10.680 --> 00:20:12.980 memory loss within families and stuff like that. 00:20:13.240 --> 00:20:15.940 So she came on and she was fantastic because 00:20:15.940 --> 00:20:19.920 it gave a completely different take on a mother 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:22.079 relationship because her mum has got advanced 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:24.180 dementia. So we started going along that line 00:20:24.180 --> 00:20:27.380 and in the new series, I mean we've just completed 00:20:27.380 --> 00:20:29.599 two years, I've got guests coming up who are 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:34.170 absolutely pillars of society who are the unsung 00:20:34.170 --> 00:20:37.230 heroes who have got amazing stories, stories 00:20:37.230 --> 00:20:42.029 of immigration, stories of having had alcoholic 00:20:42.029 --> 00:20:45.109 mothers, stories of people who've transformed 00:20:45.109 --> 00:20:47.970 their own relationships with their mums, stories 00:20:47.970 --> 00:20:50.890 of people who can't stand their mums and haven't 00:20:50.890 --> 00:20:52.529 spoken to them for years. I've got one coming 00:20:52.529 --> 00:20:55.700 up, it's not for a little while now. where this 00:20:55.700 --> 00:20:58.160 this woman she's she's local where we are here 00:20:58.160 --> 00:21:00.819 she's one of the local sort of superstars she 00:21:00.819 --> 00:21:02.779 that she raises money for charity and works for 00:21:02.779 --> 00:21:06.019 the local hospice and all that um and she said 00:21:06.019 --> 00:21:08.039 i haven't spoken to my mom and i can't stand 00:21:08.039 --> 00:21:09.940 her you know it's all very well you're doing 00:21:09.940 --> 00:21:11.720 what you're doing but i've got nothing to say 00:21:11.720 --> 00:21:14.299 to my mother um i said where is she she said 00:21:14.299 --> 00:21:16.960 well you know i don't know i said have you got 00:21:16.960 --> 00:21:18.279 her phone number she said yeah i said should 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:20.700 we ring her now she went oh don't be stupid i 00:21:20.700 --> 00:21:25.500 said why not And we rang her. Her mother, of 00:21:25.500 --> 00:21:27.259 course, was in floods of tears, hadn't heard 00:21:27.259 --> 00:21:29.920 from her daughter for about 20 years. They had 00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:33.500 a really lovely conversation. Yeah. I sort of 00:21:33.500 --> 00:21:35.180 was there to sort of help orchestrate it because 00:21:35.180 --> 00:21:36.980 it was getting a little bit tricky. They were 00:21:36.980 --> 00:21:39.079 both starting to have a go at each other. And 00:21:39.079 --> 00:21:42.200 I became a mediator. And I felt, do you know 00:21:42.200 --> 00:21:44.779 what? A little part of me is feeling really proud 00:21:44.779 --> 00:21:46.680 of that because I've actually brought people 00:21:46.680 --> 00:21:49.440 together that might not have actually ever spoken 00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:51.359 again. A mum was really old and she might have 00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:53.279 died and a daughter would never have resolved 00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:56.220 that issue. So things like that are really important. 00:21:56.420 --> 00:21:58.680 So yes, again, a very long way of saying yes, 00:21:58.839 --> 00:22:03.140 everyone from A -listers to local heroes to a 00:22:03.140 --> 00:22:05.880 neighbour who's got an interesting story. So 00:22:05.880 --> 00:22:08.059 you can come on. Why don't you come on Nick? 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:12.400 I can always email you. I do have an interesting 00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:14.940 story actually, not just this. Yes, and I have 00:22:14.940 --> 00:22:18.619 an interesting life with my mother. We went five 00:22:18.619 --> 00:22:20.480 years without talking, so there you go, we've 00:22:20.480 --> 00:22:22.240 had to fall out and again, she's not with us 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:25.259 now anymore, but we had the, yeah, so there's 00:22:25.259 --> 00:22:28.359 a story as to how we got back together and a 00:22:28.359 --> 00:22:34.240 very difficult relationship. But there was that 00:22:34.240 --> 00:22:39.079 point where I... Hates a strong word. I immensely 00:22:39.079 --> 00:22:42.160 disliked the woman, but there was still that 00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:47.660 thing where she was my mother So that's the start 00:22:47.660 --> 00:22:49.920 explaining as to how that's plausible, but that 00:22:49.920 --> 00:22:54.160 might help other people Where I think I can understand 00:22:54.160 --> 00:22:56.700 your lady, but 20 years is incredible not to 00:22:56.700 --> 00:22:59.960 talk to your mother five years a long time but 00:22:59.960 --> 00:23:03.039 but then again the thing of how I broke it down 00:23:03.039 --> 00:23:05.400 and differentiated that put she became two people 00:23:05.400 --> 00:23:09.480 my mother and that woman and that helped It's 00:23:09.480 --> 00:23:12.140 important. You know, you've hit on something 00:23:12.140 --> 00:23:14.319 really really important there because in my in 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:16.839 my day job to earn money I'm a hypnotherapist 00:23:16.970 --> 00:23:19.410 I work with people, I'm a counsellor and therapist. 00:23:19.910 --> 00:23:22.410 And it's all about communication and getting 00:23:22.410 --> 00:23:25.029 your thinking right, you know, always been obsessed 00:23:25.029 --> 00:23:27.430 with difficult women. So people with issues with 00:23:27.430 --> 00:23:30.609 their parents, it's fascinating to me. But I 00:23:30.609 --> 00:23:32.549 say to people sometimes if they have a really 00:23:32.549 --> 00:23:34.109 difficult relationship with their mum, and people 00:23:34.109 --> 00:23:35.950 write to me all the time, well, you know, I can't 00:23:35.950 --> 00:23:37.670 get through to her. I say, do you know something, 00:23:37.910 --> 00:23:41.690 a really simple trick is to like, imagine in 00:23:41.690 --> 00:23:43.549 your mind a picture of your mother at her best, 00:23:43.650 --> 00:23:45.910 in her best dress, in the most beautiful surroundings. 00:23:46.170 --> 00:23:48.890 smiling, lovely, gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous, 00:23:48.890 --> 00:23:52.609 gorgeous. Now think of like a bubble, and in 00:23:52.609 --> 00:23:55.269 that bubble you can put the behaviour, the memories, 00:23:55.589 --> 00:23:57.569 the bad stuff, you know, put it all somewhere 00:23:57.569 --> 00:24:00.269 else. Separate them. Because if you think of 00:24:00.269 --> 00:24:02.609 them together, then you have a problem person. 00:24:02.950 --> 00:24:05.650 You can separate them. So you love the woman, 00:24:05.829 --> 00:24:08.470 and you can legitimateate the behaviour. That's 00:24:08.470 --> 00:24:11.829 fine. Some things are not forgivable. absolutely 00:24:11.829 --> 00:24:14.230 yeah but they don't have to cloud it you know 00:24:14.230 --> 00:24:18.390 yeah you can move forward not move on move forward 00:24:18.390 --> 00:24:21.609 together because that was absolutely yeah there 00:24:21.609 --> 00:24:25.950 was she's just screaming her teeth but there 00:24:25.950 --> 00:24:30.160 was also a good side to her um didn't go without 00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:32.500 I didn't starve I didn't wouldn't turn to go 00:24:32.500 --> 00:24:34.240 out in the streets dirty and stuff like that 00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:36.359 but yeah there's a whole big story so yeah I 00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:38.819 could email you we could talk yeah but the story 00:24:38.819 --> 00:24:41.180 but I mean that's how it was dealt with and when 00:24:41.180 --> 00:24:46.140 she did did die we were talking it was yeah and 00:24:46.140 --> 00:24:48.900 I would have hated it had she passed and we weren't 00:24:48.900 --> 00:24:50.940 talking that's what people got to think about 00:24:50.940 --> 00:24:53.319 because you're never going to get another chance 00:24:54.360 --> 00:24:57.200 Never have that moment again. And I'll ask you 00:24:57.200 --> 00:24:59.740 the question now, Nick. Why was your mum unbelievable? 00:25:01.519 --> 00:25:09.119 Why was she mum -believable? Yeah. It's a difficult 00:25:09.119 --> 00:25:11.240 one, isn't it? Because that's what everybody 00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:14.920 would say. Why was she mum -believable? How do 00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:21.960 I look at my mother as well? It's always a mixed 00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:25.579 bag with her. There will always be the mixed 00:25:25.579 --> 00:25:30.099 feelings of how she cheated on my father, who 00:25:30.099 --> 00:25:36.079 was a dear sweet man, and then how she ran off 00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:38.319 with this guy who was supposed to have this really 00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:41.759 big place in Tunbridge Wells. And it's unbelievable 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:45.539 that she believed things. Because then it turned 00:25:45.539 --> 00:25:48.119 out that this guy in Tunbridge Wells lived in 00:25:48.119 --> 00:25:51.440 this council block of flats, which is basically 00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:54.400 a squat, and he didn't have this money, he didn't 00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:56.619 do this. So she left my father for nothing, really. 00:25:57.220 --> 00:25:58.839 That's unbelievable. And she ended up in the 00:25:58.839 --> 00:26:03.359 squat herself. Payback time. So she... Intelligent 00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:06.359 lady until she wasn't. Intelligent lady with 00:26:06.359 --> 00:26:08.299 lack of common sense. So she's unbelievable because 00:26:08.299 --> 00:26:11.769 she'd be taken in by other people. There you 00:26:11.769 --> 00:26:16.890 go, that's just as valid. On a kind side, she 00:26:16.890 --> 00:26:20.490 was very proud of what I'd done. I owned my own 00:26:20.490 --> 00:26:23.970 cinema in Bexhill at the age of 22. It shut down 00:26:23.970 --> 00:26:26.549 and I just ended up renting it. Proud of things 00:26:26.549 --> 00:26:28.369 like that. She came and did the tickets for nothing 00:26:28.369 --> 00:26:30.309 and things like that. So she was also a big part 00:26:30.309 --> 00:26:34.730 of my life in another way. So she absolutely 00:26:34.730 --> 00:26:37.880 loved me. you know you were loved yeah oh yes 00:26:37.880 --> 00:26:40.700 definitely so unbelievable because of things 00:26:40.700 --> 00:26:44.900 that she believed um and then i could show you 00:26:44.900 --> 00:26:46.819 the sport the other way there's lots of bad things 00:26:46.819 --> 00:26:48.740 lots of bad things there's a lot of people but 00:26:48.740 --> 00:26:51.380 there you go but the important thing is i can 00:26:51.380 --> 00:26:53.839 i can split them up the middle to two people 00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:56.880 and i'd like people with mother stay approaching 00:26:56.880 --> 00:27:00.099 if they're in that situation try and do the same 00:27:01.060 --> 00:27:02.920 try and pick up the phone like you did with your 00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:06.119 lady after 20 years because you will regret it 00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:08.359 they may not be here the next week of the week 00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:30.650 after or something like that This is Nick and 00:27:30.650 --> 00:27:32.730 Sue with Chatterbox, giving you all you need 00:27:32.730 --> 00:27:38.630 to know about musical entertainment. Chatterbox! 00:27:39.430 --> 00:27:41.789 Chatterbox! Chatterbox! Chatterbox! Chatterbox! 00:27:42.109 --> 00:27:44.190 Chatterbox! You know, the other day my sister, 00:27:44.210 --> 00:27:46.269 who I loved, she was 10 years younger than me, 00:27:46.849 --> 00:27:49.009 and I thought it was funny, she was going to 00:27:49.009 --> 00:27:50.390 phone me at four o 'clock, she phoned me at ten 00:27:50.390 --> 00:27:53.049 past four. I said, what happened? She said, oh, 00:27:53.109 --> 00:27:55.829 I was driving along the A1 in London to a tree. 00:27:56.140 --> 00:27:58.599 collapsed and crushed the car in front of me 00:27:58.599 --> 00:28:02.059 on the A1. But she said, yeah, it missed me by 00:28:02.059 --> 00:28:06.299 about two feet and one second. I thought, do 00:28:06.299 --> 00:28:09.019 you know what? I could have lost my sister like 00:28:09.019 --> 00:28:11.829 that. you just think do you know what that's 00:28:11.829 --> 00:28:14.490 it life's too short people often say to me when 00:28:14.490 --> 00:28:16.630 i say look get in touch with your mum or make 00:28:16.630 --> 00:28:19.490 peace even if she's left this world you can still 00:28:19.490 --> 00:28:22.890 sort of write a letter or have a thought in your 00:28:22.890 --> 00:28:25.130 head or something like that and they go oh you 00:28:25.130 --> 00:28:27.549 know it's not that easy i said it is it's really 00:28:27.549 --> 00:28:29.910 that easy it's easy to pick up a phone and dial 00:28:29.910 --> 00:28:33.680 a number It really is that easy. You could just 00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:36.400 launch in, and the chances are you'll end the 00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:38.400 conversation going, why on earth has it taken 00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:41.900 us this long? Because the intention is to make 00:28:41.900 --> 00:28:44.180 something nice come out of it. You're not going 00:28:44.180 --> 00:28:45.660 to phone her up and have a go at her, are you? 00:28:45.779 --> 00:28:48.119 You're going to phone her up and say, what happened, 00:28:48.220 --> 00:28:52.000 or explain this to me, or whatever. So I think 00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:54.779 Mother's Day is always sugary cloud, trying to 00:28:54.779 --> 00:28:57.480 buy a card for my mum when I was in a real problem 00:28:57.480 --> 00:28:59.359 with her. And I thought, I don't want a card 00:28:59.359 --> 00:29:02.119 that's got a rose. on in gold letters and sweetness 00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:05.119 and everything. I want a card that's funny, but 00:29:05.119 --> 00:29:08.079 says I love you mum, but isn't all sugary and 00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:12.759 spice and bouquets of flowers. I think Mother's 00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:14.880 Day is important to think about in different 00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:17.839 ways. Who was she? How does she make you who 00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:20.259 you are? Do I look like her? Do I act like her? 00:29:20.380 --> 00:29:22.359 Are there things that I do that are probably 00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:26.039 things that she influenced me about? Just think 00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:29.720 about your mum in a different way. with the podcast 00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:32.259 out of interest now is it lovely obviously you've 00:29:32.259 --> 00:29:34.900 told us all about your mum is the idea of the 00:29:34.900 --> 00:29:36.980 podcast really get guests on and get them to 00:29:36.980 --> 00:29:43.299 come out and open up or is it uh to help people 00:29:43.299 --> 00:29:45.720 reunite with their mothers or is it a mixture 00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:48.279 or is it just all the thing about uniting people 00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:51.420 their mothers has that transpired since you started 00:29:51.420 --> 00:29:55.440 the podcast maybe It's both Nick, actually it's 00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:59.859 both Nick. It started out by me unashamedly telling 00:29:59.859 --> 00:30:02.200 funny stories about my hilarious mother because 00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:05.359 she was hysterically funny. Some of the things 00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:07.940 I got involved with because of her were hilarious. 00:30:08.400 --> 00:30:10.819 So it was about me sharing all of those but then 00:30:10.819 --> 00:30:15.980 it was also about looking at how neurodiversity 00:30:15.980 --> 00:30:19.559 within families is often unspoken about and how 00:30:19.559 --> 00:30:23.390 it should maybe, open up a conversation. And 00:30:23.390 --> 00:30:25.589 I think if people find things to laugh at, they 00:30:25.589 --> 00:30:28.549 can find difficult subjects easier to tackle. 00:30:29.210 --> 00:30:31.769 So it was a bit about that. And also, obviously, 00:30:31.990 --> 00:30:34.150 it's wonderful to get a superstar to come on 00:30:34.150 --> 00:30:35.890 and tell a different side of their life that 00:30:35.890 --> 00:30:38.789 you haven't heard before. Yes. Because then you 00:30:38.789 --> 00:30:40.569 think, oh, that's unbelievable, did that. And 00:30:40.569 --> 00:30:43.309 they talked about that. And it unlocked a different 00:30:43.309 --> 00:30:46.349 story. So it works on three levels. It's celebratory. 00:30:47.809 --> 00:30:51.710 looking at how the sort of science of a mother 00:30:51.710 --> 00:30:55.549 and a motherhood affects us as humans. And then 00:30:55.549 --> 00:30:58.829 it's also a bit of a laugh. That's brilliant. 00:30:59.369 --> 00:31:01.670 And before we let you go, we do social media 00:31:01.670 --> 00:31:06.000 last of all. But, yes, tell us a bit about your 00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:08.599 radio show and the wonderful station you're on. 00:31:08.700 --> 00:31:11.299 Tell us a bit about that. Oh, Serenade Radio. 00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:13.799 Yes, Serenade Radio. Oh, it's wonderful. So it's 00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:15.759 the easy listening station. They say it's the 00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.819 best easy listening station in Britain. Well, 00:31:18.819 --> 00:31:22.279 it's brilliant. It's like old radio too, from 00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:25.119 the old days. And I present a show on there every 00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:29.500 day at 10, 10 till 12. And it's wonderful, nostalgic 00:31:29.500 --> 00:31:34.480 music. We play Leo. Sayer maybe, Judy Zook, we 00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:37.859 do Neil Diamond, we do a few more modern type 00:31:37.859 --> 00:31:41.960 people, but it's not sort of a hits radio station. 00:31:42.339 --> 00:31:45.220 And it's a chance for me just to, I share stories 00:31:45.220 --> 00:31:47.440 on there about my Marmo funny thing, anecdotes 00:31:47.440 --> 00:31:50.420 about music and talk about working in broadcasting 00:31:50.420 --> 00:31:54.079 and name drop a little bit. I'm an unashamed 00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:57.200 names dropper. And seven day radio is great fun 00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:00.039 because that keeps me again broadcasting and 00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:02.309 I love it because it's it's communicating with 00:32:02.309 --> 00:32:05.390 people and I think it's that communication I 00:32:05.390 --> 00:32:08.869 love because radio is such an intimate forum 00:32:08.869 --> 00:32:11.190 as you know and you can really speak to people 00:32:11.190 --> 00:32:13.609 and people get a lot of support from it. So I 00:32:13.609 --> 00:32:15.869 love that, I love Serenade Radio and the other 00:32:15.869 --> 00:32:18.509 podcast I do called Mempathy. If you've got anyone 00:32:18.509 --> 00:32:21.529 in your family suffering from dementia, listen 00:32:21.529 --> 00:32:23.710 to that one as it's really interesting and it's 00:32:23.710 --> 00:32:26.710 hosted by a proper professor of neuroscience 00:32:26.710 --> 00:32:29.410 who what Catherine Loveday doesn't know about 00:32:29.410 --> 00:32:32.829 memory ain't worth knowing. She's fabulous. So 00:32:32.829 --> 00:32:35.529 yeah, so there's two or three ways if you want 00:32:35.529 --> 00:32:41.059 to listen to various things. Now, how are you 00:32:41.059 --> 00:32:43.000 going to spend Mother's Day? I've got to ask 00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:44.680 you, how are you going to spend it? Oh, interestingly. 00:32:45.140 --> 00:32:48.339 Well, interestingly, with my step -mum, because 00:32:48.339 --> 00:32:53.799 my real mum passed away in 2018. My dad remarried, 00:32:54.019 --> 00:32:56.640 and so I was growing up a lot with my step -mum 00:32:56.640 --> 00:32:59.019 in my later childhood years. So I'm going to 00:32:59.019 --> 00:33:02.880 spend it with her. She's got quite advanced dementia 00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:04.819 herself, so she won't remember what we're going 00:33:04.819 --> 00:33:09.450 to do. So we might go on a Thames Clipper boat 00:33:09.450 --> 00:33:12.349 up and down the river with a picnic, just looking 00:33:12.349 --> 00:33:15.589 at London's landmarks from the water. And then 00:33:15.589 --> 00:33:19.490 maybe, maybe go to a pub and have lunch, but 00:33:19.490 --> 00:33:22.349 we'll see. But yeah, so with my stepmum, so it's 00:33:22.349 --> 00:33:24.920 stepmum day. Okay. That's nice, that's nice. 00:33:25.339 --> 00:33:29.160 I will go up to the grave, put my mother's ashes 00:33:29.160 --> 00:33:31.720 up there at the bottom. My mum and dad did stay 00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:34.380 friends. There's a dog up there as well. So I 00:33:34.380 --> 00:33:36.259 will go and take that and just do some weeds 00:33:36.259 --> 00:33:38.319 and bits and pieces. I'll go and speak to them. 00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:41.440 My dad was the one that had dementia, sadly. 00:33:42.859 --> 00:33:45.380 Funny stories with him. If there was ever a dad 00:33:45.380 --> 00:33:47.640 podcast, he'd be the one. Because my father, 00:33:47.660 --> 00:33:50.539 he was born in 1927, bless him. He only died 00:33:50.539 --> 00:33:55.130 in 2002. and he had these old fashions, he was 00:33:55.130 --> 00:33:58.789 an only child, parents being Victorian and born 00:33:58.789 --> 00:34:02.309 late in life for them and he had this vision 00:34:02.309 --> 00:34:05.430 that people such as homosexuals could go to the 00:34:05.430 --> 00:34:07.309 doctors and have an injection and they'd be fine, 00:34:07.609 --> 00:34:11.630 things like that. So he was of that era bless 00:34:11.630 --> 00:34:14.530 him, so yeah but he was the one that had dementia 00:34:14.530 --> 00:34:16.050 out of them and I can relate to it but through 00:34:16.050 --> 00:34:21.429 my father of course. Well, I'm wishing you an 00:34:21.429 --> 00:34:23.449 unbelievable Mother's Day and all your lovely 00:34:23.449 --> 00:34:26.530 listeners, whatever they're up to. And I love 00:34:26.530 --> 00:34:28.230 feedback. You know, if anyone listens to the 00:34:28.230 --> 00:34:30.769 podcast and everything resonates, I love hearing 00:34:30.769 --> 00:34:32.510 from people. So I'm always encouraging people 00:34:32.510 --> 00:34:36.809 to send me a message or whatever. And if my weird 00:34:36.809 --> 00:34:40.070 ramblings about my crazy mum help with people, 00:34:40.230 --> 00:34:42.070 then all the better, you know, all the better. 00:34:42.630 --> 00:34:44.329 I'll be in touch anyway, I'll drop you an email 00:34:44.329 --> 00:34:46.769 at some point next week. But anyway, let's do 00:34:46.769 --> 00:34:49.050 your social media. We don't think it can be found. 00:34:49.630 --> 00:34:51.889 My unbelievable podcast, well, all platforms, 00:34:52.090 --> 00:34:55.389 nice and easy. However, let's do some social 00:34:55.389 --> 00:34:57.530 media as well. How else can they find you if 00:34:57.530 --> 00:35:00.059 that's not good enough? Oh, well, that's not 00:35:00.059 --> 00:35:01.480 good enough. Well, thank you. I've got a website. 00:35:01.820 --> 00:35:04.579 If it's not, good to know. As we go, we've got 00:35:04.579 --> 00:35:08.360 a website. Sonia's mum .com is the website that 00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:10.380 says a bit about my relationship with my mum. 00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:13.199 I've got my own website, which is my sort of 00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:16.659 professional website, SoniaBeldham .co .uk. And 00:35:16.659 --> 00:35:18.579 that's more about my hypnotherapy and the work 00:35:18.579 --> 00:35:21.559 I do. Bit of background. And then on all the 00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:23.960 different social media platforms, I'm simply 00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:28.460 either at SoniaBeldham or at MumBelievablePodcast. 00:35:29.049 --> 00:35:31.510 So there's quite a bit out there if people are 00:35:31.510 --> 00:35:34.429 interested. Fantastic. And also I should be putting 00:35:34.429 --> 00:35:36.710 this on my podcast before Mother's Day as well. 00:35:38.130 --> 00:35:41.190 It's been fascinating. It's been great meeting 00:35:41.190 --> 00:35:43.369 you. And I think we should do it again sometime. 00:35:43.550 --> 00:35:45.429 But yeah, in the meantime, thanks for coming 00:35:45.429 --> 00:35:49.369 on Chatterbox UK. That's a pleasure. Thank you, 00:35:49.429 --> 00:36:19.710 Nick. Thank you. Bye bye now. Bye bye. You've 00:36:19.710 --> 00:36:21.929 been listening to the Chatterbox Redux podcast 00:36:21.929 --> 00:36:25.349 with me, Nick, and today my special guest was 00:36:25.349 --> 00:36:29.309 Sonja Beldum of the Unbelievable Podcast. If 00:36:29.309 --> 00:36:31.429 you're interested in becoming a future guest 00:36:31.429 --> 00:36:34.309 on the Chatterbox Redux podcast or the radio 00:36:34.309 --> 00:36:36.710 show Chatterbox UK, you're welcome to submit 00:36:36.710 --> 00:36:40.190 songs, books, or whatever it is you do, and send 00:36:40.190 --> 00:36:43.329 us a CV, synopsis, or press release. 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