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Sue the best news And now on Chatterbox UK, we're
just lucky enough to welcome Sonia Beldham. Sonia,
welcome to Chatterbox. How are you? I'm really
well, thank you, Nick. Yeah, great. Looking forward
to Mother's Day. Sure you are. Absolutely. It's
going to be a busy day for you. All right. I
have been listening to the podcast since I found
out about you. And in fact, I was listening to
it not long ago. the latest edition as well.
Now, quite a career. Let's not just start with
a podcast. Let's start with your career in BBC
Light Entertainment. You started off as a junior
producer, I think, on the news headlines and
shows like that, and becoming a fully fledged
producer on light programming. Tell us about
some of the programmes and maybe your experiences
and some of the people you work with. Let's talk
about that for a... Well, it was great, because
I always wanted to go and work at the BBC. In
fact, when I was 18, I was at school. I marched
up to Broadcasting House and went up to reception
and said, hello, I'd like to work for the BBC.
And this woman said, do you have an appointment
with anybody? I went, no, no. I just thought,
oh my god. So I was very cheeky. I'd always wanted
to work for the BBC. And then when I finally
got a training producership in live entertainment,
there was a wonderful photograph in the Sunday
Times of the BBC live entertainment department.
And it was all men. And so I thought, oh, this
is interesting. So one of the questions they
said, well, what do you think you'd bring to
this that we don't have already? I said, well,
I'm female for a start. And there's a lot of,
you know, anyway, and it was great fun. But I
thought Radio Light Entertainment would be like
living in the Goon show. I thought it would be
hilarious jokes. 24 -7. No, it was very serious,
but it was great. I worked on the headlines with
wonderful Roy Hud and he was fabulous, of course,
and I met a wonderful writer there called Tony
Hare and I worked a lot with him and so the headlines
were great. I did a show called beat the record
with Keith Fordyce, which was instrumental versions
of classic, you know, hits and everyone had to
phone in or whatever, so that was great fun.
Yeah, so I did lots of work on Life's Entertainment
and it was basically coming up with silly ideas
for programmes. I did a big show with Barry Crier
called Funny That Way, which was an interesting
one because that was all archive interviews from
famous comedians of them talking about their
own life cut together with sketches so that was
like a big edit program that was great fun and
then i went to radio 2 which was pretty much
my heartland really because coming from a musical
background and all the wonderful music we played
at radio 2 so i worked with all the greats there
i was very lucky to work with people like terry
wogan gloria hunniford john dunn in the early
days brian matthew who did around midnight and
i loved it Chaz and Dave, I did a big music live
music series with Chaz and Dave and I ended up
doing lots of work on Radio 2 as a sort of events
and live music producer so I worked with some
fabulous musicians I just loved it and was always
bossing other people around what to do whenever
and whenever I could I'd get on the microphone
and do my own introductions you know studio shows
and all that so I suppose I've always wanted
to be on the other side of the mic as well. And
then when this opportunity came up to do Unbelieveable
on the podcast, I thought, aha, I can spread
my presenter wings like you, Nick, and actually
get on the other side of the mic, which was brilliant.
So that's kind of how it came about. And the
podcast itself came about because I started a
blog called Sonia's Mum, which I started putting
funny stories out when my real mum, bless her
heart, she was 80. when she was diagnosed with
different mental health conditions. And she was
very funny. She was inappropriate, embarrassing
and difficult, but she was very funny. And so
I started blogging about her. And then that got
me onto Jeremy Vine, who was on Radio 2, as you
know. And he said, come on and do a quick Mother's
Day. special six minutes or so i was on for 45
minutes and um and they had people opening in
and it was amazing and uh so a lot of i just
thought to be honest it's a blog site i'm doing
it for my own sort of, you know, catharsis, I
suppose, describing about my mom. I thought no
one's going to listen. Who am I, you know? But
then people did. And people started contacting
me saying that they thought maybe their mothers
had had problems and they weren't discussed properly,
mental health being a big thing within families.
And so and then the podcast came out of that,
which was which has been great. And it's been
going for a couple of years now. We started on
Mother's Day. two years ago yeah and and it's
just attracting some really great names great
stories you know it's it's fun it's deep it's
it's difficult some of the conversations but
on the whole it's shining a spotlight on who
mums are and what they've given us you have you
have had some great guests on the uh yeah really
great guests i just think you're going about
radio too the comedy and that that podcast for
a sec brought back some great memories because
I became quite a fan of radio 2 I bought a radio
a battery radio transistor type thing for my
10th birthday now that was in the 70s but of
course back in the 70s the radio 2 had some really
great comedy on Most kids have been listening
to Radio Luxembourg late at night. I was listening
to the Peter Goodwright show at 10pm and things
like that. And they were very good shows. Roy
Castle did a great show. There was some amazing
comedy on there. It was. It was. It's a different
radio station to what it is now, although Jeremy
Vine's OK and I like Sarah Cox. There's still
some good ones on there, you know, but at times
change. the age of the listeners change because
when I was there they um I mean I left there
late 90s so it's a good while ago now um and
they were very much looking for the audience
35 to 55 that's a young adult into early early
age you know pensioner age um but now they realize
that so many people listen to wonderful podcasts
like ours and uh and make their own selections
that they're trying to sort of hoover up the
younger people who've come off Radio 1. So Radio
2 very much is the sort of catch the Radio 1
lot before they go off and start podcasting.
So it's a much younger audience. And I think
with that comes a slightly different, you know,
you don't really hear the things that I used
to play like Doris Day and Frank Sinatra and
Mantovani. You don't hear that anymore on Radio
2. But then, you know, I still play it. I played
on my live shows. In fact, I'm a big fan. In
fact, Sue, my partner, only played, was it tonight
she's playing? Doris Day. Anyway, Doris Day was
last Thursday, so yeah, absolutely, but real
easy listening, yeah. But as you say about the
podcast thing, because we started the Chats bar,
I mean, I've been started in radio, local radio
back in the 80s in Brighton. But radio was the...
medium as such and right up until the lockdown
I say which is when we gave birth to Chatterbox
it started during the lockdown because there
was so much talent out there all types not just
musicians but people like yourself and actors
and all sorts of people that were available all
of a sudden there was a lot of talent there and
Sue and I just said to each other this is our
Sunday afternoon show on Radio North Sea International
said we've got something here so Chatterbox was
born started with 12 radio stations and we did
up where it is now but in recent times I've found
myself listening to podcasts now I am in that
age group of late 50s and I'm listening to podcasts
I'm not watching documentaries on YouTube anymore
I'll have the radio on in the car, but not any
other time. And so I'm there podcasting it. I
can cook and podcast. And I just thought, well,
this is why the Chatterbox Redux podcast got
born as well. Well, let's put it another way.
It got monetized in 40 hours of launch. So it
was a good start. That obviously is a way forward,
this podcast. rather than you trying to find
200 radio stations and keep keep mailing radio
station after the podcast there isn't it it's
got it is the future definitely It feels like
it and I suppose everyone's got a story and it's
a crowded old market out there as you know. You
know there are lots of people doing the podcast
now but then it's a lovely intimate way of doing
it and I think also because there are no holds
barred I mean you can say things on the podcast
that you probably would hesitate to say on the
national radio station but you can be more intimate
on the podcast and I find that's where the Unbelieveable
guests are so good because they talk about things
that are really quite deep and personal and these
are things they probably wouldn't normally talk
about on national platforms in a way but they
can on a podcast because it feels very intimate
so I've been very lucky getting some really great
people on sure and some of the guests that we've
shared I see that you've had Suzy Quattro on
Oh, yes. And she's fantastic. We only interviewed
her last a couple of weeks or so back. And she's
amazing. She's so witty. She's so funny. And
I hope she came on and mentioned her graveyard
book, because that was brilliant. Oh, she did.
She did. It's just brilliant, isn't it? So funny.
And just what do you want written on it? I'm
not sure what you'd want written on your grave,
though, but I'm going to have written on mine.
Didn't anybody tell you? Because that's always
been. that's been a mantra all throughout life
i've got my job at radio too i was on holiday
i came back from holiday i was freelancing right
i came back i thought oh i've got a week's worth
of freelance you know and then nothing and uh
and they kept saying oh what you're doing you
know in two weeks time i was like oh i don't
know and really what do you mean you don't know
i said well you know what it's like in freelance
and then there's something somebody said didn't
anybody tell you i went no oh you've got a job
here you're permanent now oh Oh brilliant! Well
that was the best interview I ever did. I like
it. I have got mine worked out. I have got mine
worked out actually and Susie does know it. And
it's quite simply, it's what you would have wanted.
Oh yes. At every funeral everybody says it's
what they would have wanted. Of course it's not
what they bloody wanted. They didn't know the
people. How do they know? So it's what you would
have wanted is what's going on the gravestone.
Oh there you go, well I'll come and visit you
then. Well I'll be up against the wall at the
back of Hastings Cemetery, right up against the
wall there. I lived there for a while with my
mum, my lovely, unbelievable mum. I lived in
St Leonard's, so not far from you. I went to
a school there run by nuns and I didn't like
it. They were all a bit too Too strict for me.
And they found my mum very, very confusing. It
was good fun. Lovely part of the world. I do
miss being by the sea, I have to say. Being in
London is great for some things, you know, but
lovely every morning walking by the sea. You
know, very lucky. And Tutu present a radio show
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Shatterbox! Shatterbox! Have you had, it is basically,
I could turn this from Suzy Quattro back to you
actually, because Suzy said that when she did
the graveyard book actually, she had some surprises.
There's people that she's had dinner with that
have been really really funny, but they suddenly
became serious when it came to the graveyard
book. Now, have you had any surprises with guests?
You don't have to name them, of course. I'd like
you to, but you don't have to. I would be doing
my job if I didn't ask. But have you had any
real surprises where people haven't been, as
you would expect, if they'd been the opposite?
Absolutely. And people getting very emotional.
I mean, I worked... So one in particular was...
There's a gardener called Danny Clark, and he
does a lot of stuff with Alan Titus on ITV. He's
brilliant. Very cool black guy. Dreadlocks. Super
cool. And very, very laid back and funny. And
when he came on, he was very nervous. And I was
like, well, I'm surprised that you're so naturally
funny on air, you know. I didn't say this to
him, obviously. This is quite hard work. And
it turned out that he had really struggled with
the idea of coming on because he was going to
reveal for the very first time that his mother
had been a very violent mother. And he'd got
to school with bruises and cuts on his face and
all that. But he'd managed. He said that he had
a conversation with her in the last years, last
hours of her life. And we were talking about
how important it is to have those conversations
with people. quite an interesting one. David
Bredeal was hilarious because it turned out that
we, our mothers were obviously twins and separated
at birth because they were so similar and I never
thought I'd be able to make David Bredeal laugh
but I did so that was good. Another one again,
again a sort of poignant one really was lovely
Ainsley Harriot because he talks about his mum,
Pepe, coming over from the Caribbean, bringing
all the influences with her, having a problem,
obviously struggling to fit in when she came
over, being a sort of, you know, from a different
culture. But then we got round that, and then
when I talked about him and fame and what his
mum must have felt like, he got very emotional
because his mum had never seen him on telly,
so didn't know famous Ainsley. And that was interesting.
And going back to Susie, the interesting thing
I found about Susie was that she was so, you
know what she's like, she's so strident and opinionated
and wonderful and loud and colourful. When she
spoke about her mother, she became really quite
very gentle and very very considered. And she
said, my mother, she said, I said, how was your
mum unbelievable? She said, Mickey Most's Mickey
Mouse's wife was sitting next to me once, and
she was telling me how wonderful my mother was.
And she said, no, exactly why was she so wonderful?
And Mickey Mouse's wife said, well, she was the
most decent woman I've ever met. And Susie Quattro
got... And again, quite emotional. She said,
I'd never really thought of my mum as decent.
I'd thought of my mum as loud and bossy and different.
So it's those moments when people unleash themselves
really. And they become, I think, when people
talk about their mothers, they become very honest
and very authentic. I found that lovely. And
people that are always up, up, up all the time,
like Supala, for example, she's hilarious all
the time. She spoke about how mom and she became
very emotional and loved the process of it. But
it's like there's a connection that people almost
go back to being childlike again when they talk
about their moms, because obviously there's that
early connection in life. So yes, to answer your
question, quite a few interesting reactions.
Okay so Mumbelievable is I guess you're on all
platforms? Absolutely I mean you can get anywhere
so it's all over the place and you can you can
get it on on Spotify iTunes anywhere like that
literally just put Mumbelievable my name's Sonia
Beldham it's also You can go through my blog
site, which was the original site where I blogged
all about my mum called Sonia's Mum. And then
the website has a link to the podcast on there.
So that's quite interesting. People like that
because it gives the context of how it all came
about. And they are funny, the stories, even
though I say so myself. My mum was the comedian.
I'm just the teller of stories. But yes, absolutely.
And I just love it. And I love the fact that
so many nice people are coming on. Is that Sue?
Yeah, we haven't worked on it yet. I thought
Sue couldn't make it today. She's been letting
people in and out. Hiya! Hopefully we can do
it again sometime and have Sue in on it as well.
That'd be nice, yeah. There's no reason why we
can't do it again. No reason at all. Now, out
of interest, Odia, are all of your guests sort
of more of Westwinkle as well? When it comes
to your guests, are they all famous people or
are they people from the literary world or the
world of entertainment or do you have people
that maybe more normal people perhaps more community
people that might have got an OBE in their community
for being a lollipop person or something so do
you get so so do you get more sort of like normal
people it's a terrible way of wording it normal
people but average average people whatever the
wording is do you have people all walks of life,
yes, and it's expanding more at the moment, Nick,
because it started off by being superstars, you
know, Sue Pollard, Bobby Crush, all people I'd
sort of worked with. And then it became more,
I was working with, say, a professor of neuroscience
that I'd... I do another podcast with called
Mempathy and I was working with her and we were
talking about memory loss and how to deal with
memory loss within families and stuff like that.
So she came on and she was fantastic because
it gave a completely different take on a mother
relationship because her mum has got advanced
dementia. So we started going along that line
and in the new series, I mean we've just completed
two years, I've got guests coming up who are
absolutely pillars of society who are the unsung
heroes who have got amazing stories, stories
of immigration, stories of having had alcoholic
mothers, stories of people who've transformed
their own relationships with their mums, stories
of people who can't stand their mums and haven't
spoken to them for years. I've got one coming
up, it's not for a little while now. where this
this woman she's she's local where we are here
she's one of the local sort of superstars she
that she raises money for charity and works for
the local hospice and all that um and she said
i haven't spoken to my mom and i can't stand
her you know it's all very well you're doing
what you're doing but i've got nothing to say
to my mother um i said where is she she said
well you know i don't know i said have you got
her phone number she said yeah i said should
we ring her now she went oh don't be stupid i
said why not And we rang her. Her mother, of
course, was in floods of tears, hadn't heard
from her daughter for about 20 years. They had
a really lovely conversation. Yeah. I sort of
was there to sort of help orchestrate it because
it was getting a little bit tricky. They were
both starting to have a go at each other. And
I became a mediator. And I felt, do you know
what? A little part of me is feeling really proud
of that because I've actually brought people
together that might not have actually ever spoken
again. A mum was really old and she might have
died and a daughter would never have resolved
that issue. So things like that are really important.
So yes, again, a very long way of saying yes,
everyone from A -listers to local heroes to a
neighbour who's got an interesting story. So
you can come on. Why don't you come on Nick?
I can always email you. I do have an interesting
story actually, not just this. Yes, and I have
an interesting life with my mother. We went five
years without talking, so there you go, we've
had to fall out and again, she's not with us
now anymore, but we had the, yeah, so there's
a story as to how we got back together and a
very difficult relationship. But there was that
point where I... Hates a strong word. I immensely
disliked the woman, but there was still that
thing where she was my mother So that's the start
explaining as to how that's plausible, but that
might help other people Where I think I can understand
your lady, but 20 years is incredible not to
talk to your mother five years a long time but
but then again the thing of how I broke it down
and differentiated that put she became two people
my mother and that woman and that helped It's
important. You know, you've hit on something
really really important there because in my in
my day job to earn money I'm a hypnotherapist
I work with people, I'm a counsellor and therapist.
And it's all about communication and getting
your thinking right, you know, always been obsessed
with difficult women. So people with issues with
their parents, it's fascinating to me. But I
say to people sometimes if they have a really
difficult relationship with their mum, and people
write to me all the time, well, you know, I can't
get through to her. I say, do you know something,
a really simple trick is to like, imagine in
your mind a picture of your mother at her best,
in her best dress, in the most beautiful surroundings.
smiling, lovely, gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous,
gorgeous. Now think of like a bubble, and in
that bubble you can put the behaviour, the memories,
the bad stuff, you know, put it all somewhere
else. Separate them. Because if you think of
them together, then you have a problem person.
You can separate them. So you love the woman,
and you can legitimateate the behaviour. That's
fine. Some things are not forgivable. absolutely
yeah but they don't have to cloud it you know
yeah you can move forward not move on move forward
together because that was absolutely yeah there
was she's just screaming her teeth but there
was also a good side to her um didn't go without
I didn't starve I didn't wouldn't turn to go
out in the streets dirty and stuff like that
but yeah there's a whole big story so yeah I
could email you we could talk yeah but the story
but I mean that's how it was dealt with and when
she did did die we were talking it was yeah and
I would have hated it had she passed and we weren't
talking that's what people got to think about
because you're never going to get another chance
Never have that moment again. And I'll ask you
the question now, Nick. Why was your mum unbelievable?
Why was she mum -believable? Yeah. It's a difficult
one, isn't it? Because that's what everybody
would say. Why was she mum -believable? How do
I look at my mother as well? It's always a mixed
bag with her. There will always be the mixed
feelings of how she cheated on my father, who
was a dear sweet man, and then how she ran off
with this guy who was supposed to have this really
big place in Tunbridge Wells. And it's unbelievable
that she believed things. Because then it turned
out that this guy in Tunbridge Wells lived in
this council block of flats, which is basically
a squat, and he didn't have this money, he didn't
do this. So she left my father for nothing, really.
That's unbelievable. And she ended up in the
squat herself. Payback time. So she... Intelligent
lady until she wasn't. Intelligent lady with
lack of common sense. So she's unbelievable because
she'd be taken in by other people. There you
go, that's just as valid. On a kind side, she
was very proud of what I'd done. I owned my own
cinema in Bexhill at the age of 22. It shut down
and I just ended up renting it. Proud of things
like that. She came and did the tickets for nothing
and things like that. So she was also a big part
of my life in another way. So she absolutely
loved me. you know you were loved yeah oh yes
definitely so unbelievable because of things
that she believed um and then i could show you
the sport the other way there's lots of bad things
lots of bad things there's a lot of people but
there you go but the important thing is i can
i can split them up the middle to two people
and i'd like people with mother stay approaching
if they're in that situation try and do the same
try and pick up the phone like you did with your
lady after 20 years because you will regret it
they may not be here the next week of the week
after or something like that This is Nick and
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Chatterbox! You know, the other day my sister,
who I loved, she was 10 years younger than me,
and I thought it was funny, she was going to
phone me at four o 'clock, she phoned me at ten
past four. I said, what happened? She said, oh,
I was driving along the A1 in London to a tree.
collapsed and crushed the car in front of me
on the A1. But she said, yeah, it missed me by
about two feet and one second. I thought, do
you know what? I could have lost my sister like
that. you just think do you know what that's
it life's too short people often say to me when
i say look get in touch with your mum or make
peace even if she's left this world you can still
sort of write a letter or have a thought in your
head or something like that and they go oh you
know it's not that easy i said it is it's really
that easy it's easy to pick up a phone and dial
a number It really is that easy. You could just
launch in, and the chances are you'll end the
conversation going, why on earth has it taken
us this long? Because the intention is to make
something nice come out of it. You're not going
to phone her up and have a go at her, are you?
You're going to phone her up and say, what happened,
or explain this to me, or whatever. So I think
Mother's Day is always sugary cloud, trying to
buy a card for my mum when I was in a real problem
with her. And I thought, I don't want a card
that's got a rose. on in gold letters and sweetness
and everything. I want a card that's funny, but
says I love you mum, but isn't all sugary and
spice and bouquets of flowers. I think Mother's
Day is important to think about in different
ways. Who was she? How does she make you who
you are? Do I look like her? Do I act like her?
Are there things that I do that are probably
things that she influenced me about? Just think
about your mum in a different way. with the podcast
out of interest now is it lovely obviously you've
told us all about your mum is the idea of the
podcast really get guests on and get them to
come out and open up or is it uh to help people
reunite with their mothers or is it a mixture
or is it just all the thing about uniting people
their mothers has that transpired since you started
the podcast maybe It's both Nick, actually it's
both Nick. It started out by me unashamedly telling
funny stories about my hilarious mother because
she was hysterically funny. Some of the things
I got involved with because of her were hilarious.
So it was about me sharing all of those but then
it was also about looking at how neurodiversity
within families is often unspoken about and how
it should maybe, open up a conversation. And
I think if people find things to laugh at, they
can find difficult subjects easier to tackle.
So it was a bit about that. And also, obviously,
it's wonderful to get a superstar to come on
and tell a different side of their life that
you haven't heard before. Yes. Because then you
think, oh, that's unbelievable, did that. And
they talked about that. And it unlocked a different
story. So it works on three levels. It's celebratory.
looking at how the sort of science of a mother
and a motherhood affects us as humans. And then
it's also a bit of a laugh. That's brilliant.
And before we let you go, we do social media
last of all. But, yes, tell us a bit about your
radio show and the wonderful station you're on.
Tell us a bit about that. Oh, Serenade Radio.
Yes, Serenade Radio. Oh, it's wonderful. So it's
the easy listening station. They say it's the
best easy listening station in Britain. Well,
it's brilliant. It's like old radio too, from
the old days. And I present a show on there every
day at 10, 10 till 12. And it's wonderful, nostalgic
music. We play Leo. Sayer maybe, Judy Zook, we
do Neil Diamond, we do a few more modern type
people, but it's not sort of a hits radio station.
And it's a chance for me just to, I share stories
on there about my Marmo funny thing, anecdotes
about music and talk about working in broadcasting
and name drop a little bit. I'm an unashamed
names dropper. And seven day radio is great fun
because that keeps me again broadcasting and
I love it because it's it's communicating with
people and I think it's that communication I
love because radio is such an intimate forum
as you know and you can really speak to people
and people get a lot of support from it. So I
love that, I love Serenade Radio and the other
podcast I do called Mempathy. If you've got anyone
in your family suffering from dementia, listen
to that one as it's really interesting and it's
hosted by a proper professor of neuroscience
who what Catherine Loveday doesn't know about
memory ain't worth knowing. She's fabulous. So
yeah, so there's two or three ways if you want
to listen to various things. Now, how are you
going to spend Mother's Day? I've got to ask
you, how are you going to spend it? Oh, interestingly.
Well, interestingly, with my step -mum, because
my real mum passed away in 2018. My dad remarried,
and so I was growing up a lot with my step -mum
in my later childhood years. So I'm going to
spend it with her. She's got quite advanced dementia
herself, so she won't remember what we're going
to do. So we might go on a Thames Clipper boat
up and down the river with a picnic, just looking
at London's landmarks from the water. And then
maybe, maybe go to a pub and have lunch, but
we'll see. But yeah, so with my stepmum, so it's
stepmum day. Okay. That's nice, that's nice.
I will go up to the grave, put my mother's ashes
up there at the bottom. My mum and dad did stay
friends. There's a dog up there as well. So I
will go and take that and just do some weeds
and bits and pieces. I'll go and speak to them.
My dad was the one that had dementia, sadly.
Funny stories with him. If there was ever a dad
podcast, he'd be the one. Because my father,
he was born in 1927, bless him. He only died
in 2002. and he had these old fashions, he was
an only child, parents being Victorian and born
late in life for them and he had this vision
that people such as homosexuals could go to the
doctors and have an injection and they'd be fine,
things like that. So he was of that era bless
him, so yeah but he was the one that had dementia
out of them and I can relate to it but through
my father of course. Well, I'm wishing you an
unbelievable Mother's Day and all your lovely
listeners, whatever they're up to. And I love
feedback. You know, if anyone listens to the
podcast and everything resonates, I love hearing
from people. So I'm always encouraging people
to send me a message or whatever. And if my weird
ramblings about my crazy mum help with people,
then all the better, you know, all the better.
I'll be in touch anyway, I'll drop you an email
at some point next week. But anyway, let's do
your social media. We don't think it can be found.
My unbelievable podcast, well, all platforms,
nice and easy. However, let's do some social
media as well. How else can they find you if
that's not good enough? Oh, well, that's not
good enough. Well, thank you. I've got a website.
If it's not, good to know. As we go, we've got
a website. Sonia's mum .com is the website that
says a bit about my relationship with my mum.
I've got my own website, which is my sort of
professional website, SoniaBeldham .co .uk. And
that's more about my hypnotherapy and the work
I do. Bit of background. And then on all the
different social media platforms, I'm simply
either at SoniaBeldham or at MumBelievablePodcast.
So there's quite a bit out there if people are
interested. Fantastic. And also I should be putting
this on my podcast before Mother's Day as well.
It's been fascinating. It's been great meeting
you. And I think we should do it again sometime.
But yeah, in the meantime, thanks for coming
on Chatterbox UK. That's a pleasure. Thank you,
Nick. Thank you. Bye bye now. Bye bye. You've
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