WEBVTT 00:00:01.550 --> 00:00:05.990 And now here they are, Nick and Sue on Chatterbox. 00:00:06.150 --> 00:00:09.449 When the stars talk, they talk to Nick and Sue. 00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:34.840 And welcome back to the Chatterbox Redux podcast 00:00:34.840 --> 00:00:37.359 with Sue and Nick and today our special guest 00:00:37.359 --> 00:00:40.179 is Gary Puckett of Gary Puckett and the Union 00:00:40.179 --> 00:01:08.450 Gap. This is Nick and Sue with Chatterbox giving 00:01:08.450 --> 00:01:13.129 you all you need to know about musical entertainment. 00:01:14.730 --> 00:01:33.980 Oh yeah! Chatterbox! And now Chatterbox UK, we're 00:01:33.980 --> 00:01:37.280 just lucky enough to welcome Gary Puckett. Gary, 00:01:37.459 --> 00:01:40.159 welcome sir, how are you? I am very well, thank 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:42.680 you very much for having me on. Thank you for 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:44.760 coming. We'll talk a little bit about how you 00:01:44.760 --> 00:01:48.640 got to being as famous as you are because we've 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:52.920 got a wonderful 60s gold tour you're on with 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:56.640 some other great groups. So how did Gary Puckett 00:01:56.640 --> 00:01:59.180 get... known all over the world? I mean did you 00:01:59.180 --> 00:02:02.480 get interested in singing, songwriting etc as 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:04.480 a kid? Was it a musical home? Can you put us 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:08.139 in a picture of how you got on your way? Started 00:02:08.139 --> 00:02:10.879 when I was just a kid, you know my parents were 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:15.080 musical, they were both good singers and I'm 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:17.360 lucky to have inherited the qualities of their 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:21.099 voices. Mom was an accomplished pianist and dad 00:02:21.099 --> 00:02:26.219 was a saxophonist. That's how they met. Way back 00:02:26.219 --> 00:02:29.759 in their high school days and They probably would 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:35.159 have gone on to be in the music business if The 00:02:35.159 --> 00:02:37.900 music business had been a little easier or more 00:02:37.900 --> 00:02:41.340 like it is today like tour buses, you know They're 00:02:41.340 --> 00:02:45.180 pretty incredible to travel in and in those days 00:02:45.180 --> 00:02:48.300 They were just very cold and drafty situations 00:02:48.300 --> 00:02:51.000 and they really wanted a little more normal life 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:52.919 But by the time I was six years old, they had 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:56.020 me sitting at a piano and learning how to play 00:02:56.020 --> 00:03:00.479 a little bit. I wish I had continued, you know, 00:03:00.500 --> 00:03:02.819 on the reading path and all that, but somehow 00:03:02.819 --> 00:03:05.719 I got dragged away with the guitar, which I thought 00:03:05.719 --> 00:03:09.500 was more, I don't know, romantic or something. 00:03:09.819 --> 00:03:15.099 It's my word for the day. And, you know, it just, 00:03:15.539 --> 00:03:17.900 I grew up with rock and roll and I always thought 00:03:17.900 --> 00:03:20.439 I was gonna be a rock and roller, you know, back 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:23.710 to the day when people like Chuck Berry and Elvis 00:03:23.710 --> 00:03:27.650 Presley and and Little Richard and the Everly 00:03:27.650 --> 00:03:32.490 Brothers and Fats Domino and so many of that 00:03:32.490 --> 00:03:35.590 era you know that were that were exciting to 00:03:35.590 --> 00:03:38.030 me the coasters the platters you know and others 00:03:38.030 --> 00:03:43.310 and um you know it was what I thought I was going 00:03:43.310 --> 00:03:45.949 toward, my folks always said, Well, wait a minute, 00:03:45.969 --> 00:03:47.789 you ought to go into higher education, you should 00:03:47.789 --> 00:03:50.849 become a doctor or something like that. You know, 00:03:50.849 --> 00:03:53.930 they wanted me to do better, of course, then, 00:03:54.110 --> 00:03:58.270 then they did, though they did pretty well. But 00:03:58.270 --> 00:04:02.849 they decided that I should be a dentist or something 00:04:02.849 --> 00:04:05.530 like that, you know, which I really didn't want 00:04:05.530 --> 00:04:11.120 to do. But I tried to who I tried to please them. 00:04:11.240 --> 00:04:13.159 I went to a couple years of college and took 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:15.960 the required courses and all that kind of stuff. 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:19.259 And while I'm doing that, I'm learning to play 00:04:19.259 --> 00:04:21.319 the guitar and I'm singing and I'm with bands 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:24.639 and we're working at nights and working in the 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:28.639 teen clubs and stuff like that. And as time went 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:33.240 by, I finally just quit school and I started 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:38.199 working in an automotive shop that had basic 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:43.800 engine parts for foreign cars. Now, in the early 00:04:43.800 --> 00:04:46.759 60s, how many foreign cars did we have in America? 00:04:47.259 --> 00:04:51.939 Not many. But I continued, you know, and it was 00:04:51.939 --> 00:04:56.300 fun. I enjoyed working for them. But music was 00:04:56.300 --> 00:04:58.899 really, you know, in my heart all the time. And 00:04:58.899 --> 00:05:01.600 I was now working in the nightclubs and that 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:04.180 kind of thing. came a point where I thought I 00:05:04.180 --> 00:05:06.100 don't want to work in nightclubs forever I want 00:05:06.100 --> 00:05:09.000 to get out there and make some records you know 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:11.439 I want to go out and work with the popular groups 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:14.899 of the day on the road and things like that so 00:05:14.899 --> 00:05:21.779 I found myself thinking trying to figure it out 00:05:21.779 --> 00:05:24.379 how do I do this what is what's the path you 00:05:24.379 --> 00:05:28.279 know and I had been in a really, really good 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:31.500 band, a trio, guitar, bass and drums. And I also 00:05:31.500 --> 00:05:34.319 had a B3 organ. And we played all the music of 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:36.439 the day, you know, the Beatles and the Stones 00:05:36.439 --> 00:05:39.600 and, you know, the R &B of the day and all that. 00:05:40.459 --> 00:05:43.279 But two of the members, I wasn't one of the two, 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:46.040 the other two were always at odds. And finally, 00:05:46.060 --> 00:05:47.720 I just said, I'm done with this. I want to move 00:05:47.720 --> 00:05:52.819 on and try to make a success of this. So I quit 00:05:52.819 --> 00:05:55.720 the band. and started looking around San Diego, 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:58.360 California, where I lived at the time, trying 00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:03.220 to find the guys that might follow me. I didn't 00:06:03.220 --> 00:06:07.360 know how to be a leader. So anyway, I found the 00:06:07.360 --> 00:06:11.089 guys all around San Diego. I kept thinking, how 00:06:11.089 --> 00:06:13.029 are we going to do this? You know, first of all, 00:06:13.050 --> 00:06:15.149 we all had to make a living just like anybody 00:06:15.149 --> 00:06:18.589 else. So we rehearsed in my garage in January 00:06:18.589 --> 00:06:22.569 of 1967. And we put together enough material 00:06:22.569 --> 00:06:24.870 that we could go back and work in the nightclubs 00:06:24.870 --> 00:06:28.529 so we could all get a paycheck. So we did that. 00:06:28.730 --> 00:06:32.930 And I went to Los Angeles and I found a small 00:06:32.930 --> 00:06:36.720 agent. who in fact the guy that owned the agency 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:40.279 was an old time trombone player from the big 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:43.139 band era but he had a young guy and it was one 00:06:43.139 --> 00:06:46.879 of his in -house agents and he said well I'll 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:50.180 send my guy down to hear you guys to see what 00:06:50.180 --> 00:06:53.120 we can do so he came down and he heard us in 00:06:53.120 --> 00:06:57.639 this old kind of funky club and he said well 00:06:57.639 --> 00:07:00.360 let's see if I can get you some work so he sent 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:03.480 us on the road and I gotta tell you learning 00:07:03.790 --> 00:07:08.629 the road without success is not easy, you know. 00:07:09.230 --> 00:07:12.629 It's a very tough thing. But we went to Van Nuys, 00:07:12.649 --> 00:07:17.850 California, and then we went to Seattle, and 00:07:17.850 --> 00:07:19.829 then from there we went to Portland. Now while 00:07:19.829 --> 00:07:23.730 we were in Seattle, the light bulb went on finally 00:07:23.730 --> 00:07:26.470 with me thinking about how do I do this and get 00:07:26.470 --> 00:07:31.709 this band noticed. So I thought that we had to 00:07:31.709 --> 00:07:40.569 have that we should have a visual identity. And 00:07:40.569 --> 00:07:42.649 so I think, and what is it we can wear that would 00:07:42.649 --> 00:07:45.750 be different and yet the same? And I always had 00:07:45.750 --> 00:07:48.889 this interest in the Civil War history for America. 00:07:49.449 --> 00:07:54.209 So I, at one point went to a library and started 00:07:54.209 --> 00:07:58.329 looking at all the pictures that were taken because 00:07:58.329 --> 00:08:03.439 photography had become quite good by that point, 00:08:03.579 --> 00:08:06.439 you know, so you can find photos that are just 00:08:06.439 --> 00:08:09.540 truly amazing. And I said, hey, guys, here's 00:08:09.540 --> 00:08:11.120 what we're going to do. We're going to wear Union 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:14.220 soldier outfits. And we're going to and union 00:08:14.220 --> 00:08:16.720 was the word because I grew up in the Yakima 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:20.519 Valley in Washington state and Union Gap was 00:08:20.519 --> 00:08:24.680 in the southeast corner of the valley. And I 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:27.519 said, this is it. We found it. It is the Union 00:08:27.519 --> 00:08:29.819 soldier outfit. And the name of the band is the 00:08:29.819 --> 00:08:32.269 Union Gap. they all laughed and thought that 00:08:32.269 --> 00:08:43.830 was the dumbest thing they ever heard so we went 00:08:43.830 --> 00:08:47.929 from Seattle we went to Portland and Portland 00:08:47.929 --> 00:08:52.289 we went to Vallejo California and from Vallejo 00:08:52.289 --> 00:08:53.950 I said okay here's what we're gonna do we're 00:08:53.950 --> 00:08:57.370 gonna go to Los Angeles and we're gonna buy these 00:08:57.370 --> 00:09:00.889 outfits that we So we went to a place called 00:09:00.889 --> 00:09:04.789 Western Costume, which is where producers of 00:09:04.789 --> 00:09:06.889 movies go. If they want to make a movie about, 00:09:06.889 --> 00:09:09.309 you know, Roman times or war times or whatever, 00:09:09.409 --> 00:09:11.750 that's where you get your outfits. And it turned 00:09:11.750 --> 00:09:14.190 out that they were so expensive and we didn't 00:09:14.190 --> 00:09:17.070 have enough money between us to buy one outfit. 00:09:18.129 --> 00:09:21.529 So I said, can I rent one? They said, sure. So 00:09:21.529 --> 00:09:24.830 I rented an outfit, took the guys and shortly 00:09:24.830 --> 00:09:28.389 thereafter went to Tijuana, Mexico. Where you 00:09:28.389 --> 00:09:31.169 could get really great upholstery and really 00:09:31.169 --> 00:09:33.370 great tailoring and found a little tailor and 00:09:33.370 --> 00:09:36.629 he made our first outfits So that's when I put 00:09:36.629 --> 00:09:40.009 together a portfolio that had pictures of the 00:09:40.009 --> 00:09:44.289 band It had lyrics that I had written it also 00:09:44.289 --> 00:09:47.870 had a demo of me in the last group I was in but 00:09:47.870 --> 00:09:51.509 it had me singing, you know, so And then I took 00:09:51.509 --> 00:09:53.269 it around to all the record companies in Los 00:09:53.269 --> 00:09:57.080 Angeles and I found a guy By the name of Jerry 00:09:57.080 --> 00:10:01.860 Fuller who is an amazingly talented guy Has worked 00:10:01.860 --> 00:10:04.399 through the years producing many many people 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:07.480 from Gary Puckett in the unigap to Johnny Mathis 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:10.860 to John Davidson to Al Wilson to many many others 00:10:10.860 --> 00:10:15.259 and and He loved what he saw in the portfolio 00:10:15.259 --> 00:10:18.600 So he came down to see us at a place called the 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:22.440 quad room in San Diego Took us by surprise. He 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:25.830 said he'd be there Saturday came on Friday We 00:10:25.830 --> 00:10:27.750 sat out, it was in a bowling alley and we sat 00:10:27.750 --> 00:10:31.210 in the bowling alley and talked about the possibility. 00:10:31.210 --> 00:10:33.070 He said, no, we're going to go make a record. 00:10:33.570 --> 00:10:36.429 And I thought, ooh, maybe we're on the path here. 00:10:36.710 --> 00:10:40.090 So he said, I'll be back in a few weeks with 00:10:40.090 --> 00:10:42.929 recording contracts and things like that. And 00:10:42.929 --> 00:10:45.169 when he came back, four or five weeks later, 00:10:45.289 --> 00:10:48.250 I think it was, we sat in that same booth in 00:10:48.250 --> 00:10:50.990 the bowling alley and we signed contracts. And 00:10:50.990 --> 00:10:52.789 he said, I'll be back in touch and we're going 00:10:52.789 --> 00:10:56.289 to go in the studio. in August and do our first 00:10:56.289 --> 00:11:00.549 recordings. So that's where it all began. And 00:11:00.549 --> 00:11:05.110 this is August 1967, I believe. All in 1967, 00:11:05.490 --> 00:11:08.590 yes. Well, that's pretty good because I can see 00:11:08.590 --> 00:11:11.210 what's happened here. The songs that all these 00:11:11.210 --> 00:11:13.789 people are coming to see you sing here in the 00:11:13.789 --> 00:11:16.970 UK at the moment. I can see you were hitting 00:11:16.970 --> 00:11:22.590 the top 50. in the UK as soon after as November 00:11:22.590 --> 00:11:26.350 67 and then of course the big one came in 1968 00:11:26.350 --> 00:11:30.549 with the Young Girl and Lady Willpower and all 00:11:30.549 --> 00:11:32.830 of those so it happened rather quick didn't it 00:11:32.830 --> 00:11:35.710 and and you hit both sides of the pond and Australia 00:11:35.710 --> 00:11:38.110 I can see and it looks like it's pretty worldwide 00:11:38.110 --> 00:11:40.509 so that was really quick I think two two months 00:11:40.509 --> 00:11:45.320 after really yeah very good Yeah, yeah, it was 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:47.779 terrific. Actually, I mean, I worked a long time, 00:11:47.820 --> 00:11:49.919 you know, in San Diego trying to get it all together. 00:11:50.200 --> 00:11:52.220 But once it started moving, it was kind of like 00:11:52.220 --> 00:11:55.340 an overnight success. And once that record got 00:11:55.340 --> 00:11:58.220 out there and people noticed it, one of the interesting 00:11:58.220 --> 00:12:02.419 facts to me about it is the fact that I dealt 00:12:02.419 --> 00:12:05.419 with the record company before we recorded. And 00:12:05.419 --> 00:12:08.440 I said, when we have a single record, you really 00:12:08.440 --> 00:12:11.799 have to put a picture of this band. on that single 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:15.340 record because we don't look like anybody else. 00:12:15.919 --> 00:12:20.360 We look unto ourselves. And they sort of argued 00:12:20.360 --> 00:12:23.659 with me for some time and finally relented. And 00:12:23.659 --> 00:12:29.450 we took a picture in a... It was in the auditorium 00:12:29.450 --> 00:12:31.889 of a school that had been demolished by the wrecking 00:12:31.889 --> 00:12:35.149 ball. Everything was crashed down around the 00:12:35.149 --> 00:12:37.850 stage in the auditorium and we stood on that 00:12:37.850 --> 00:12:41.110 stage or in front of it and they did the picture 00:12:41.110 --> 00:12:43.830 in sepia tone, which is that old brown tone. 00:12:43.909 --> 00:12:49.370 It was just a fantastic picture. So the record 00:12:49.370 --> 00:12:55.220 went out and there was this jockey. program director 00:12:55.220 --> 00:12:58.460 in Columbus, Ohio, that was a Civil War historian. 00:12:59.399 --> 00:13:02.440 And he saw that record, that picture, and he 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:05.740 went, Oh, my gosh, this is a great, great photo. 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:08.759 I wonder what this record sounds like. So he 00:13:08.759 --> 00:13:11.539 auditioned it, as they like to say, and he loved 00:13:11.539 --> 00:13:13.759 the record. So he put it on his station, and 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:18.639 it went to number one in Columbus, Ohio. In Cleveland, 00:13:19.019 --> 00:13:24.490 there was a regional office of Columbia Records. 00:13:24.730 --> 00:13:27.570 And they saw that activity, of course, because 00:13:27.570 --> 00:13:30.529 they service those records, those radio stations. 00:13:30.950 --> 00:13:33.789 And they called me in San Diego, and they said, 00:13:34.049 --> 00:13:36.429 Do you know what, you have a number one record 00:13:36.429 --> 00:13:39.990 in Columbus, Ohio. So they said, We want to bring 00:13:39.990 --> 00:13:44.820 you back here to Ohio and promote that record 00:13:44.820 --> 00:13:47.200 by taking you out to the radio stations in different 00:13:47.200 --> 00:14:03.179 cities and so forth. So we went back and we worked 00:14:03.179 --> 00:14:06.539 in a club that was called Otto's Grotto and it 00:14:06.539 --> 00:14:11.139 was in the basement of the Sheraton Hotel. That's 00:14:11.139 --> 00:14:14.679 where it began in Ohio. And as the ball started 00:14:14.679 --> 00:14:17.559 rolling, it just kept rolling. Well, I can say 00:14:17.559 --> 00:14:20.720 I was thinking a good thing is to describe is 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:23.480 probably a roller coaster going out of control. 00:14:23.620 --> 00:14:26.980 So number one in Ohio, before you know your number 00:14:26.980 --> 00:14:30.220 two in the number four in the in the US, then 00:14:30.220 --> 00:14:33.759 number two, number two. Or just two in Australia, 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:36.720 number one here in the UK, all at the same time. 00:14:36.899 --> 00:14:39.580 So it must have all been coming in from all directions. 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:41.919 And you must have thought, it must have just 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:44.320 been surreal. It must have knocked you over. 00:14:44.879 --> 00:14:47.620 It was incredibly fast and massive when it came, 00:14:47.740 --> 00:14:50.659 wasn't it? It was overwhelming in a lot of ways. 00:14:52.009 --> 00:14:55.570 It really was. The beginning had, you know, a 00:14:55.570 --> 00:14:58.710 lot of, I don't want to say false starts, but 00:14:58.710 --> 00:15:02.049 hard starts, you know, because we were just a 00:15:02.049 --> 00:15:05.549 neophyte band as far as, you know, the professional 00:15:07.599 --> 00:15:09.840 aspect of making the records and getting out 00:15:09.840 --> 00:15:12.419 on the road and all that. We had to do all the 00:15:12.419 --> 00:15:14.580 driving. We had to do all the carrying of the 00:15:14.580 --> 00:15:16.899 equipment. We had to do all the setting up, all 00:15:16.899 --> 00:15:19.019 the playing, then tearing down, then reloading 00:15:19.019 --> 00:15:21.580 it, then getting in the car and driving. And 00:15:21.580 --> 00:15:24.200 we ended up kind of sick with flus and colds 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:29.299 and stuff. But it was really quick that it all 00:15:29.299 --> 00:15:34.639 came under control. And we just had a wild ride. 00:15:34.700 --> 00:15:37.720 It was a lot of fun. Our very first date in a 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:41.299 big stadium was one of those radio promotion 00:15:41.299 --> 00:15:43.919 dates that they did in, I think was Pittsburgh, 00:15:44.919 --> 00:15:47.720 in the one of the arenas where they do sports. 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:51.899 And we only had one hit record. But you know, 00:15:51.899 --> 00:15:54.379 we were opening up for people like Mitch Ryder 00:15:54.379 --> 00:15:58.399 and the Detroit Wheels and Junior Walker and 00:15:58.399 --> 00:16:01.320 the All Stars and whoever else was on the show. 00:16:02.059 --> 00:16:06.299 But it was It was fascinating. It was overwhelming. 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:10.779 It was daunting sometimes, you know, but exciting 00:16:10.779 --> 00:16:14.080 as could be. Did you get on to do Top of the 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:16.019 Pops here in the UK or did they just send a film 00:16:16.019 --> 00:16:20.919 over of you? You know what, I don't know why 00:16:20.919 --> 00:16:23.620 I never got here to do Top of the Pops. I do 00:16:23.620 --> 00:16:29.700 not understand it. My management didn't get it, 00:16:29.700 --> 00:16:32.600 I guess, you know, so didn't get here in that 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:34.860 time. well you obviously appeared on it like 00:16:34.860 --> 00:16:36.399 like they must have played your record and showed 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:39.179 some photos of you at the time because they can't 00:16:39.179 --> 00:16:41.059 avoid a record that's number one you're number 00:16:41.059 --> 00:16:43.659 one it's something they can do about it so it 00:16:43.659 --> 00:16:46.539 must have got played but somehow they found a 00:16:46.539 --> 00:16:48.639 way around it what they were doing and i can't 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:50.960 remember the 60s too well because i was in in 00:16:50.960 --> 00:16:54.080 nappies that's my excuse but in the 70s if somebody 00:16:54.080 --> 00:16:56.659 didn't couldn't say somebody from the states 00:16:57.000 --> 00:16:58.799 couldn't get over to do that. They had these 00:16:58.799 --> 00:17:01.980 dance troupes, like Pan's people, Lex and Cohen, 00:17:02.559 --> 00:17:04.819 a variety of dance troupes. And they used to 00:17:04.819 --> 00:17:07.920 do the most weird choreography to a song where 00:17:07.920 --> 00:17:09.759 the artist couldn't appear. And that's how they 00:17:09.759 --> 00:17:12.299 got around it in the 70s. What they did in the 00:17:12.299 --> 00:17:15.359 60s I couldn't say, but that's how they did it 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:18.769 later. Interesting. Yeah, so we have to have 00:17:18.769 --> 00:17:24.170 to hunt and alter the pops from 60s 68 mark 68 00:17:24.170 --> 00:17:26.609 and see what they were doing with young girl 00:17:26.609 --> 00:17:29.069 see what they were doing on that edition if I 00:17:29.069 --> 00:17:31.190 can find it I will send it to you I promise all 00:17:31.190 --> 00:17:35.150 right interesting I'd love to see it. Okay, Gary, 00:17:35.390 --> 00:17:37.630 that was fantastic, as I said, a roller coaster, 00:17:37.769 --> 00:17:40.829 but let's start moving on. Can I ask you, if 00:17:40.829 --> 00:17:47.390 it's not personal, when the union gap split up 00:17:47.390 --> 00:17:51.289 and you went solo, was it you wanted to go solo, 00:17:51.470 --> 00:17:53.910 was the group just naturally breaking up, or 00:17:53.910 --> 00:17:58.009 what was that situation like? A couple of members, 00:17:58.309 --> 00:18:02.470 Kerry Chader and Gary Witham, they were songwriting 00:18:02.470 --> 00:18:06.900 partners. And Kerry was pretty disenchanted with 00:18:06.900 --> 00:18:09.700 working on the road. He wanted to stay home. 00:18:10.140 --> 00:18:13.140 They wanted to live in Los Angeles. They had 00:18:13.400 --> 00:18:17.339 They had signed a publishing deal with Irving 00:18:17.339 --> 00:18:21.299 Almo Publishing, which was the A &M Records publishing 00:18:21.299 --> 00:18:24.839 wing. And so they really wanted to leave the 00:18:24.839 --> 00:18:28.559 band and live in Los Angeles, write songs and 00:18:28.559 --> 00:18:32.599 pursue songwriting, as opposed to being a musician 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:36.700 and working on the roads. So that's really what 00:18:36.700 --> 00:18:39.960 broke the group up. At that time, we hired four 00:18:39.960 --> 00:18:45.240 other people, a horn section, And how did it 00:18:45.240 --> 00:18:49.460 work? At any rate, we then had a seven piece 00:18:49.460 --> 00:18:54.140 band instead of five. So it was a good band. 00:18:54.539 --> 00:18:57.740 But I always say that when you change the recipe 00:18:57.740 --> 00:19:04.500 of the cake, it doesn't taste the same. And Sue 00:19:04.500 --> 00:19:08.119 says, yes, that's absolutely the truth. Great, 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:13.309 great, great. OK, so I mean, ever so successful. 00:19:13.509 --> 00:19:17.069 I'm looking at the albums obviously going fractally 00:19:17.069 --> 00:19:21.130 back to the Union Gap days and you had five back 00:19:21.130 --> 00:19:23.910 -to -back hit albums in the US and that was in 00:19:23.910 --> 00:19:28.309 a period of two years. Yes. It's February 68 00:19:28.309 --> 00:19:31.690 through to July 70, just over two years. That's 00:19:31.690 --> 00:19:35.170 pretty good going as well. Let's look at the 00:19:35.170 --> 00:19:40.069 solo stuff. As early as October 71, you got a 00:19:40.069 --> 00:19:45.430 solo album out, a Gary Puckett album. It seems 00:19:45.430 --> 00:19:47.730 a bit sporadic, if that's the right word in your 00:19:47.730 --> 00:19:50.509 solo stuff. But in those years, were you continuously 00:19:50.509 --> 00:19:53.230 touring? Were you still writing stuff anyway? 00:19:54.670 --> 00:19:57.880 I'm assuming. Gary Puckett remained a musician 00:19:57.880 --> 00:20:00.000 and you you carried on gigging and stuff, is 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:04.099 that right? Yeah, I carried on as much as possible. 00:20:04.259 --> 00:20:07.200 But you see, we were going into a new era and 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:11.039 I think it had everything to do with the decline 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:18.180 of the group. Probably because there was just 00:20:18.180 --> 00:20:21.700 a new attitude coming along. It was the 70s, 00:20:21.700 --> 00:20:26.380 you know, there was. There was David Bowie and 00:20:26.380 --> 00:20:29.480 the Spiders from Mars. There was, you know, not 00:20:29.480 --> 00:20:31.799 the English Invasion anymore, but it was more 00:20:31.799 --> 00:20:35.700 the T -Rex, Bang -A -Gong, a different show, 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:39.000 you know, and along would come Disco and so forth. 00:20:39.740 --> 00:20:46.059 So I think that all of that played into the demise 00:20:46.490 --> 00:20:50.269 of the 60s in general, which included Gary Pocket 00:20:50.269 --> 00:20:56.549 and the Unigap. And from about 71 or 72, I didn't 00:20:56.549 --> 00:21:00.349 work through the 70s because nobody wanted to 00:21:00.349 --> 00:21:03.930 hear that music anymore. At least at the time, 00:21:03.950 --> 00:21:08.609 they didn't want to. So I found myself studying 00:21:08.609 --> 00:21:13.349 and studying dance and writing songs and being 00:21:13.349 --> 00:21:37.450 productive in a quiet way. But I had decided 00:21:37.450 --> 00:21:39.869 to take a year off, write songs, and I thought 00:21:39.869 --> 00:21:42.029 that I'd be able to come back and everybody would 00:21:42.029 --> 00:21:46.230 say, oh, come on, arms are open. welcome, let's 00:21:46.230 --> 00:21:49.750 do this again, you know, but everything changed 00:21:49.750 --> 00:21:53.470 so much that that wasn't the case. So it wasn't 00:21:53.470 --> 00:22:01.690 really until the early, the early 80s, 81 82, 00:22:02.430 --> 00:22:04.470 right in there. And I was working locally again 00:22:04.470 --> 00:22:09.039 in San Diego. And just just playing club gigs 00:22:09.039 --> 00:22:11.599 again, you know, and playing everything from 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:15.519 Bob Seeger to the Union Gap to the Everly Brothers 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:19.099 to Little River Band. You know, I was just doing 00:22:19.099 --> 00:22:21.559 whatever I wanted to do, but trying to please 00:22:21.559 --> 00:22:24.200 the people at the same time. And then I started 00:22:24.200 --> 00:22:26.920 getting calls from people around the country 00:22:26.920 --> 00:22:29.980 saying, hey, we're starting to hear from radio 00:22:29.980 --> 00:22:33.099 stations that they are changing their formats 00:22:33.099 --> 00:22:38.289 into what they're calling classic oldies. So 00:22:38.289 --> 00:22:40.269 they were starting to play the music of our era 00:22:40.269 --> 00:22:44.230 again. And so they were starting to invite me 00:22:44.230 --> 00:22:47.630 out on the road and things like that, which I 00:22:47.630 --> 00:22:51.309 did. It was a little sketchy for a while, but 00:22:51.309 --> 00:23:00.130 then in 1983, I had been invited to do a concert. 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:03.359 It was called the Metal Lands, which is a big 00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:07.380 sports complex and arena with a whole bunch of 00:23:07.380 --> 00:23:10.359 acts. And somebody came to me at the dressing 00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:13.440 room and said, my boss in the city would like 00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:17.019 to meet with you. And I said, OK. So I went into 00:23:17.019 --> 00:23:19.799 New York City the next day and met with this 00:23:19.799 --> 00:23:21.619 guy in his office. And they said, we're working 00:23:21.619 --> 00:23:25.380 with the Turtles and with the Association. And 00:23:25.380 --> 00:23:28.839 we'd like to work with you. And I said, well, 00:23:28.880 --> 00:23:31.319 let's discuss it. So we did. And we started working 00:23:31.319 --> 00:23:34.140 together. And then I suggested that they put 00:23:34.140 --> 00:23:37.759 us all out on the road as a tour. And they said, 00:23:37.960 --> 00:23:40.440 great idea. Let's add somebody to it. So they 00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:43.359 added Spanky and our gang. Remember Spanky and 00:23:43.359 --> 00:23:46.660 our gang? Very popular in the U .S. Had several 00:23:46.660 --> 00:23:53.640 big records. And so we went out in 1984 and did 00:23:53.640 --> 00:23:58.539 the first classic tour. It was, it had never 00:23:58.539 --> 00:24:01.619 been done before by any of the the 60s artists. 00:24:02.140 --> 00:24:05.480 And nobody knew how to do it, really. So they 00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:07.660 said, let's just go out there and by hook or 00:24:07.660 --> 00:24:11.140 by crook, let's get it done. So we ended up working 00:24:11.140 --> 00:24:16.640 eight months of that year 1984. Because of the 00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:20.819 the popularity of the music coming back. And 00:24:20.819 --> 00:24:23.599 all four of us together, the turtles had their 00:24:23.599 --> 00:24:30.309 crowd. The association had their crowd, I had 00:24:30.309 --> 00:24:32.970 my crowd, Spanky had hers and brought them all 00:24:32.970 --> 00:24:35.190 together, you know. And the next thing you know, 00:24:35.309 --> 00:24:37.309 we had worked eight to eight and a half months. 00:24:37.849 --> 00:24:42.309 And so that was very significant. In 1986, for 00:24:42.309 --> 00:24:48.009 two years now, the MTV had been playing The Monkey's 00:24:48.009 --> 00:24:49.890 reruns. Yes, I remember when they started to 00:24:49.890 --> 00:24:53.109 do that. Two years straight, in a row. Day and 00:24:53.109 --> 00:24:57.690 night. And so, all the 15 -year -olds who were 00:24:57.690 --> 00:25:01.490 now mothers at 35 had their own 15 -year -olds. 00:25:02.069 --> 00:25:06.109 And they were still, you know, the older women 00:25:06.109 --> 00:25:09.049 were still Monkeys fans. The younger girls were 00:25:09.049 --> 00:25:12.329 now Monkeys fans. And I was invited on that tour. 00:25:12.430 --> 00:25:15.730 We worked about seven months of that year. And 00:25:15.730 --> 00:25:19.160 it was the tour of the year. set records for 00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:21.220 attendance, set records for, and it was all, 00:25:21.220 --> 00:25:23.519 all due to the monkeys. But I think that the 00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:25.819 opening act had something to do with it, but, 00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:29.740 uh, it was, um, Gary Puckett and it was the grassroots 00:25:29.740 --> 00:25:31.980 and Herman's hermits. They didn't have Peter 00:25:31.980 --> 00:25:34.240 noon, but it was a good opening act. And then 00:25:34.240 --> 00:25:36.359 the monkeys did their thing and they set records 00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:40.299 for attendance for merchandise. And, um, just 00:25:40.299 --> 00:25:43.660 a great, great, it kind of got us all going again. 00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:46.420 Yeah. This is Nick and Sue with Chatterbox giving 00:25:46.420 --> 00:25:49.180 you all you need to know about musical entertainment. 00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:55.799 Chatterbox. Chatterbox. Chatterbox. Chatterbox. 00:25:56.240 --> 00:25:59.779 I think it's 1986. Yes, it was the most seen, 00:25:59.960 --> 00:26:02.539 yeah, it was the tour, the concert that had, 00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:05.000 yeah, it was the tour that had the most people 00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:07.559 watch it. I already knew that as a record, yeah, 00:26:07.819 --> 00:26:10.589 absolutely brilliant. Sue, have you got any questions 00:26:10.589 --> 00:26:13.630 for Gary? Not at the moment, but I have a question 00:26:13.630 --> 00:26:16.529 towards you. Cool, brilliant. Anyway, I see you 00:26:16.529 --> 00:26:20.029 did an album in 2006 as well, Gary. This is love. 00:26:22.490 --> 00:26:25.109 If I could ask, what were you doing? This tour 00:26:25.109 --> 00:26:27.250 sounds great, and I remember the monkeys on MTV 00:26:27.250 --> 00:26:29.710 and all that, and I have seen the monkeys actually 00:26:29.710 --> 00:26:33.829 play here in the UK. And you're right, the mother 00:26:33.829 --> 00:26:37.440 screaming against the door. It was surreal. to 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:40.460 see the generations all going screaming at Davey. 00:26:41.140 --> 00:26:43.160 That's what happens. You've seen it yourself. 00:26:43.619 --> 00:26:45.700 It was an amazing atmosphere. It really was. 00:26:46.180 --> 00:26:48.740 But what were you doing yourself? Because you 00:26:48.740 --> 00:26:51.240 said you took some time out when you started 00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:53.579 writing the songs. But I mean, you still had 00:26:53.579 --> 00:26:57.579 to eat and pay the bills. What was Gary Puckett 00:26:57.579 --> 00:27:01.140 doing as a job in that gap before you started 00:27:01.140 --> 00:27:04.880 touring again? What time period are you talking 00:27:04.880 --> 00:27:07.680 about? i think the 70s more or less because oh 00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:11.799 yeah yeah the 70s i i lived in la and i stayed 00:27:11.799 --> 00:27:13.680 home there was nobody booking gary pocket in 00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:17.380 the union gap um and we we we were not working 00:27:17.380 --> 00:27:21.339 because there was no work to be done no no concert 00:27:21.339 --> 00:27:24.779 promoters were hiring us so it was kind of a 00:27:24.779 --> 00:27:30.259 lean time um And it was it was a little lonely 00:27:30.259 --> 00:27:33.299 and a little frustrating but You know, like I 00:27:33.299 --> 00:27:36.099 said, I studied acting I studied dance. I wrote 00:27:36.099 --> 00:27:38.880 songs like crazy. We have a stack of songs from 00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:45.140 back then many of them still very good but Into 00:27:45.140 --> 00:27:48.380 the 80s then I started being invited up out on 00:27:48.380 --> 00:27:50.960 the road again. So that's when I started going 00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:55.359 out, you know Can we expect, because there is 00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:57.500 a lot of material here, and you said yourself, 00:27:57.619 --> 00:28:00.720 you did all that writing in the sort of more 00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:03.880 lean years. Can we expect something, not about 00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:06.119 greatest hits, I'm talking about, could we expect 00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:11.480 an anthology at some point from you? Yeah, well, 00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:14.839 I don't know. That's a good thought, a nice question. 00:28:16.079 --> 00:28:19.579 I would like to do that. Lately I've been thinking 00:28:19.579 --> 00:28:23.099 about Actually going back into the studio again. 00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:27.779 It's it's it's time for me to Was the word I 00:28:27.779 --> 00:28:31.700 want to say to add to my vocal legacy songwriting 00:28:31.700 --> 00:28:35.180 legacy, whatever So yeah, there will be something 00:28:35.180 --> 00:28:39.140 in the works. I Daily kind of study the guitar. 00:28:39.460 --> 00:28:42.599 So I've I've learned a lot about guitar. I've 00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:46.059 learned a lot about the old big band era learned 00:28:46.059 --> 00:28:48.279 a lot about there's there's a fella out there 00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:55.400 that I'm working with in relation to the Nelson 00:28:55.400 --> 00:29:03.180 Riddle legacy. And Nelson's son, Christopher, 00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:08.259 still directs the Nelson Riddle Orchestra, though 00:29:08.259 --> 00:29:11.619 Nelson is no longer with us. And they have invited 00:29:11.619 --> 00:29:15.319 me to come and be the vocalist for the centennial 00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:19.869 celebration. Now the pandemic shut it down a 00:29:19.869 --> 00:29:24.450 little bit but uh I'm meeting up with uh Jeffrey 00:29:24.450 --> 00:29:30.289 Littlefield shortly uh when we get to where um 00:29:30.289 --> 00:29:33.710 Basingstoke and we'll we'll finally be able to 00:29:33.710 --> 00:29:36.430 be face to face have dinner together and maybe 00:29:36.430 --> 00:29:38.890 discuss the uh the ongoing possibilities but 00:29:38.890 --> 00:29:40.970 I look forward to that because I would love to 00:29:40.970 --> 00:29:45.650 sing the songs that he did for Sinatra and and 00:29:45.650 --> 00:29:49.380 Linda Ronstadt and whoever else you know Absolutely. 00:29:50.140 --> 00:29:52.859 That's something great that if that comes off 00:29:52.859 --> 00:29:55.160 too, please let us know. We're doing this a lot. 00:29:55.519 --> 00:30:02.059 That's amazing. Very exciting. Sue? Stop beating 00:30:02.059 --> 00:30:05.819 my mind. Have you or is there any plans for you 00:30:05.819 --> 00:30:12.019 to do an autobiography? People have been after 00:30:12.019 --> 00:30:16.750 me lately to do that very thing. I one day sat 00:30:16.750 --> 00:30:20.170 down. My wife was after me. So I one day sat 00:30:20.170 --> 00:30:22.869 down just at the kitchen table with my iPad. 00:30:23.490 --> 00:30:26.650 And I think the words were, my wife thinks I 00:30:26.650 --> 00:30:29.650 should write a book. And I said, I don't think 00:30:29.650 --> 00:30:33.690 I can remember it all. But here goes. So I started, 00:30:33.789 --> 00:30:36.109 you know, and there's a couple of people that 00:30:36.109 --> 00:30:43.160 have invited me to join them as writers and finish 00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:45.980 an actual book. So that may be in the offering 00:30:45.980 --> 00:30:49.779 in the next year or so. That's very good. Very 00:30:49.779 --> 00:30:53.000 good. So I'm looking forward to it. Let's hope 00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:55.720 that really comes off because it is an interesting 00:30:55.720 --> 00:30:58.119 life. It's been a very interesting career and 00:30:58.119 --> 00:31:00.359 it's still going and there's still some new stuff. 00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:05.019 I mean, that's brilliant. How does it feel though, 00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:08.190 Gary? People like myself. They're not only talking 00:31:08.190 --> 00:31:12.470 about what you were doing in the 60s and in the 00:31:12.470 --> 00:31:14.990 very early 70s, but they're also talking to you 00:31:14.990 --> 00:31:16.490 about what you're doing now and what you're doing. 00:31:16.890 --> 00:31:19.049 Does it surprise you people are still interested 00:31:19.049 --> 00:31:22.910 or did you expect it was going to happen back 00:31:22.910 --> 00:31:25.430 in the 60s? Somebody would still want you 50 00:31:25.430 --> 00:31:30.220 years later perhaps. Well, I had no idea that 00:31:30.220 --> 00:31:33.380 I'd be doing this 50 years later. That's the 00:31:33.380 --> 00:31:38.640 absolute truth. Maybe I didn't suspect either, 00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:41.359 you know, the doing or the not doing. I'm not 00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:44.799 even really sure, but I've been blessed, you 00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:48.779 know, with the fans that I have, with the voice 00:31:48.779 --> 00:31:52.859 that I have, with the work that I get being out 00:31:52.859 --> 00:31:55.619 there in the world and having the fans come and... 00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:59.440 I was on a tour called Happy Together in the 00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:06.299 US. We did 56 cities throughout the US. And that 00:32:06.299 --> 00:32:10.200 Happy Together tour was sold out everywhere we 00:32:10.200 --> 00:32:14.319 went because it's the music of our era. And, 00:32:14.539 --> 00:32:16.579 you know, we have XM radio. Do you have Sirius 00:32:16.579 --> 00:32:19.819 over here? I don't think you do. No, I don't 00:32:19.819 --> 00:32:23.720 know. Sirius XM is called. Well, it's a very 00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:29.329 popular in the US. And they have their channels 00:32:29.329 --> 00:32:34.049 are set up in a way that the fifties are on channel 00:32:34.049 --> 00:32:37.829 five, the sixties are on channel six, the seventies, 00:32:38.049 --> 00:32:40.750 seven, eighties, eight, nineties, nine, you know. 00:32:40.869 --> 00:32:46.150 I think it comes through sky. Sorry, Gary. Sorry. 00:32:46.369 --> 00:32:50.109 Carry on. That's right. I'm just saying, the 00:32:50.109 --> 00:32:52.509 stations you mentioned, I think they come on 00:32:52.509 --> 00:32:54.730 Sky here in the UK. So where you've got your 00:32:54.730 --> 00:32:57.730 radio stations, you've got a Sky dish. I'm positive 00:32:57.730 --> 00:33:00.250 we can receive it on that. I'm sure it is here. 00:33:00.309 --> 00:33:02.589 Yeah. Yeah. Not on a proper radio, but it comes 00:33:02.589 --> 00:33:05.869 from Sky. Yeah. Yeah. And fortunately with the 00:33:05.869 --> 00:33:10.009 aspect of social media and things, email, you 00:33:10.009 --> 00:33:12.230 know, they email me all the time saying, I love 00:33:12.230 --> 00:33:14.269 their voice. I love the records. I just, you 00:33:14.269 --> 00:33:19.559 know, it's nice to be able to... sit down with 00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:22.940 a cup of tea and listen. So I'm blessed that 00:33:22.940 --> 00:33:25.019 way. And I think it'll continue that way. I think 00:33:25.019 --> 00:33:28.539 the music that we were fortunate to make along 00:33:28.539 --> 00:33:33.259 with much of the rest of the music will always 00:33:33.259 --> 00:33:38.599 be vital. Because with XM radio over there, they're 00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:40.700 playing that music all day, every day, all night, 00:33:40.819 --> 00:33:45.240 every night. And it's like it's... Actually, 00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:49.759 that's brilliant. Looking at this current tour 00:33:49.759 --> 00:33:53.079 you're doing, the 60s gold all -star lineup, 00:33:53.740 --> 00:33:58.720 I see that there's yourself. Somebody else has 00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:02.500 been on a few times, Jesse Hawkes who's now taking 00:34:02.500 --> 00:34:08.389 his dad's place on the tremolos. I mean, we're 00:34:08.389 --> 00:34:11.469 speaking tonight when you've got a gap of just 00:34:11.469 --> 00:34:14.030 about two nights in the middle of it all, of 00:34:14.030 --> 00:34:16.730 this massive tour which is going on. And you're 00:34:16.730 --> 00:34:18.489 coming to us at Eastbourne on the second. We 00:34:18.489 --> 00:34:21.250 might actually try and get tickets. Yeah, we 00:34:21.250 --> 00:34:23.489 will actually come along on the second and see 00:34:23.489 --> 00:34:26.010 it. It's 15 miles from where we live. So that's 00:34:26.010 --> 00:34:29.070 really good. Come and say hello, please. Oh, 00:34:29.130 --> 00:34:32.570 we'll do. That would be really nice. And I like 00:34:32.570 --> 00:34:36.250 all these hermits, hermits, marmalade. It's a 00:34:36.250 --> 00:34:38.989 fantastic tour, Gary, with all those people. 00:34:39.170 --> 00:34:41.309 Let's say that Chesney Hawkes has been on... 00:34:41.070 --> 00:34:44.570 a few times yeah lovely guy as well and i'm so 00:34:44.570 --> 00:34:47.690 glad that when his dad got poorly that he steps 00:34:47.690 --> 00:34:50.730 in and he doesn't do his own solo stuff that's 00:34:50.730 --> 00:34:53.090 tremolo stuff he does and yeah what a lovely 00:34:53.090 --> 00:34:56.070 guy you've got your website gary uh if you tell 00:34:56.070 --> 00:34:58.849 people what your website is and all your social 00:34:58.849 --> 00:35:01.809 media so they can have a look and get tickets 00:35:01.809 --> 00:35:05.369 if they want to and whatever please so uh your 00:35:05.369 --> 00:35:09.230 email your website first please gary The website 00:35:09.230 --> 00:35:12.809 is garypucketmusic .com. Of course, there's a 00:35:12.809 --> 00:35:16.889 www there, and we have a fan page. You just have 00:35:16.889 --> 00:35:19.150 to look for the original Gary Puckett and the 00:35:19.150 --> 00:35:22.969 Union Gap fan page, because there's about half 00:35:22.969 --> 00:35:25.349 a dozen of them out there that have nothing to 00:35:25.349 --> 00:35:29.789 do with us. But you'll find the original. You'll 00:35:29.789 --> 00:35:35.139 see me and my band on the opening page. They 00:35:35.139 --> 00:35:38.179 can also look me up on Cameo. Do you guys know 00:35:38.179 --> 00:35:41.340 about Cameo? No, but I should be finding out 00:35:41.340 --> 00:35:45.320 in a few minutes. No. Cameo is a great app where 00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:47.360 the fans can go and they can find their favorite 00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:51.360 artists who they can then invite to sing Happy 00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:54.800 Birthday or Happy Anniversary or give a little 00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:57.079 encouragement to somebody they love. And it's 00:35:57.079 --> 00:36:00.940 an absolutely great fun thing to do. Cameo it's 00:36:00.940 --> 00:36:03.739 called. Get the app and look me up. That is brilliant. 00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:05.980 I should be doing that in a few minutes. That's 00:36:05.980 --> 00:36:08.980 great. Has you got anything else for Gary? No, 00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:11.139 I want to just wish it was the 2nd of November. 00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:15.679 Gary, I'm absolutely thrilled to be able to chat 00:36:15.679 --> 00:36:19.000 to you at last. Obviously, I've been into radio 00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:23.079 since the 80s and it was that era when stations 00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:25.639 started playing the oldies. So all the time I've 00:36:25.639 --> 00:36:28.699 been a DJ, it's been normal and a big thing to 00:36:28.699 --> 00:36:31.679 play. Do you know what, if I can have a pound, 00:36:32.380 --> 00:36:35.659 every time I paid Young Girl or Lady Willpower, 00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:39.980 I'd be a very rich man. You'd have to pay me 00:36:39.980 --> 00:36:44.280 my royalty. Will you be singing those two songs 00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:47.579 when you're on tour in Eastbourne? Yeah. What 00:36:47.579 --> 00:36:50.820 songs? Lady Willpower? And Young Girls? Yes, 00:36:50.860 --> 00:36:53.630 those are on the show. Yes. I'm sorry he's got 00:36:53.630 --> 00:36:56.710 to he's got to he's got to do it because maybe 00:36:56.710 --> 00:37:00.090 be watching an uncle until he does you know that 00:37:00.090 --> 00:37:02.809 um I'm going to make sure he does the books the 00:37:02.809 --> 00:37:04.909 tickets now once we finish talking yeah when 00:37:04.909 --> 00:37:06.909 you know come back because we've left it on the 00:37:06.909 --> 00:37:09.670 cliffhanger basically so uh it's brilliant that 00:37:09.670 --> 00:37:12.269 there's you know something we can look forward 00:37:12.269 --> 00:37:15.250 to and obviously you've got nausea too as well 00:37:15.250 --> 00:37:17.940 so we're leaving it where it's you know left 00:37:17.940 --> 00:37:21.699 wide open for uh you know an update but when 00:37:21.699 --> 00:37:23.699 i say it's an update Gary i don't make you go 00:37:23.699 --> 00:37:26.460 through all of your career again we literally 00:37:26.460 --> 00:37:28.440 have an update until maybe a couple of stories 00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:30.460 in the past so that's what it is if you come 00:37:30.460 --> 00:37:32.239 back i won't make you go through it all over 00:37:32.239 --> 00:37:36.360 again all right it's been so interesting thank 00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:38.159 you Gary that's going to be amazing interview 00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:42.239 Gary thank you uh yeah i mean you are a hero 00:37:42.239 --> 00:37:44.980 that we've we could and the listeners are going 00:37:44.980 --> 00:37:47.539 to love it because it is well over 200 stations 00:37:47.539 --> 00:37:50.920 now so yeah look at what they're wearing congratulations 00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:54.820 on your success thank you that has come out that 00:37:54.820 --> 00:37:57.539 was one station until lockdown do you know that 00:37:57.539 --> 00:38:00.980 and he's just that's our lockdown thing so yeah 00:38:00.980 --> 00:38:05.780 and it's nice it's nice to give um artists from 00:38:05.780 --> 00:38:09.380 previous decades that i know radio 2 here plays 00:38:09.380 --> 00:38:12.519 a lot of it but it's restricted it's nice to 00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:14.059 be able to get somebody on tour we're talking 00:38:14.059 --> 00:38:15.820 about what they're doing not five minutes it's 00:38:15.820 --> 00:38:19.579 nice to you know give that little bit of a platform 00:38:19.579 --> 00:38:21.639 as well and that's what keeps our show going 00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:23.940 so yeah uh gary it's been an absolute pleasure 00:38:23.940 --> 00:38:27.059 good to meet you at last and uh yeah catch you 00:38:27.059 --> 00:38:31.139 soon you'll see safe all the best take care all 00:38:31.139 --> 00:38:33.579 right and all the best to you may god bless thank 00:38:33.579 --> 00:39:22.750 you gary Bye bye. Bye bye. Catabox Redux podcast 00:39:22.750 --> 00:39:25.349 with Sue and Nick, and today our special guest 00:39:25.349 --> 00:39:28.550 was Gary Puckett of Gary Puckett and the Union 00:39:28.550 --> 00:39:32.969 Gap. Our email address is nickelbum at myyahoo 00:39:32.969 --> 00:39:36.510 .com. We have a postal address which is PO Box 00:39:36.510 --> 00:39:40.289 26, the old Observer Building, Telford Road, 00:39:40.789 --> 00:39:43.690 St. Leonard's -on -Sea, East Sussex, England, 00:39:43.989 --> 00:39:49.380 TN38, 9LZ. Sue, Twinkle and myself, Nick, thank 00:39:49.380 --> 00:39:51.159 you for your company this week and I look forward 00:39:51.159 --> 00:39:53.599 to welcoming you again for another Chatterbox 00:39:53.599 --> 00:40:45.179 Redux podcast soon. Take care, bye bye. This 00:40:45.179 --> 00:40:49.119 is Nick and Sue with Chatterbox giving you all 00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:55.280 you need to know about musical attainment. Oh 00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:57.639 yeah! Chatterbox!