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And now here they are, Nick and Sue on Chatterbox.

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When the stars talk, they talk to Nick and Sue.

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Welcome back to the Chatterbox Redux Podcast

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with Nick and Sue and today we are joined by

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Chris Amu of The Real Thing This is Nick and

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Sue We're Chatterbox giving you all you need

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And now on Chatterbox UK, we're just lucky enough

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to welcome back Chris removes the real thing.

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Chris, welcome. How are you, sir? Hello, Chris.

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Well, I've been better. I've been better. I've

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been in sunnier weather. But apart from that,

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I'm absolutely fine. Thank you. You're looking

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happy, and you're looking well. That's the main

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thing. When you, as I say, welcome back, because

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you were here. about a year ago, just after we

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started Charterport Trump. And you very kindly

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told us the entire setup of your life story and

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how the real thing came about. And that wonderfully

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exciting news about working on that album which

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you had been doing, sorry, that one song you

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had been working on during lockdown. And it's

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now completed. Tell us about that, Chris. What's

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it called and how do people get on with it? It's

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amazing that because last time I spoke to it

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was very much in its embryo form And if I remember

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rightly I was just starting to get really excited

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about it because a lot of the songs had started

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to like really come together then you know, yeah,

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yeah, well, I'm glad to say it's It's completed

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and it's called Going through loads of titles.

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What are we gonna call this album? I was thinking

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so anyway, it's called a brand new day and I

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got the actual title from one of the tracks on

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the album, which is called A Brand New Day, and

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I wrote that song during lockdown. And it was

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actually meant to be a song that we were gonna

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hopefully try and get released during lockdown.

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But you know, by the time I'd sort of finished

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with it, and I had all these ideas going round

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in my head, I thought, no, hold on, hold it back.

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and hold it for the album, you know. And that's

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why, as I say, it didn't come out during lockdown,

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but it's called A Brand New Day. It's all new

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tracks, apart from Children of the Ghetto, which

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I told you about. And the reason why we put Children

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of the Ghetto on the album was because over the

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years, it's become a kind of cult hit for the

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real thing. in that it's been recorded by so

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many people, people like who we aspire to, like

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Mary J. Blythe, Philip Bailey from Earth, Wind

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and Fire, I mean how good does it get, you know,

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Courtney Pine, a jazz saxophonist from Paul Hardcastle,

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there's been so many people who've done it and

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one thing that always used to get to me and Eddie

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was we were really disappointed because the record

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company would never allow us the real thing to

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release it as a single and we always thought

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that they were missing the boat somewhere because

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i know it's not similar to you to me and can't

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get by but people aren't fools sometimes you

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do want to listen to something that's slightly

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different it doesn't all have to be you to me

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for can't get by doesn't all have to be like

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that there's room to give people a little bit

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of respect, to know that they can listen to a

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nice ballad that means something and appreciate

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it. They might not want to go out and buy it.

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That's fair enough. Have a listen to it. Appreciate

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it. Job done. You know, so that's why we decided

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to put Children of the Ghetto on the album. And

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we decided to do a live version because I don't

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think I could deliver the song as well by just

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sitting here. at home or going into a studio

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and trying to get the emotion of that type of

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song to try to get you to feel what I'm feeling

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when I sing the song. So we thought we'll do

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it and try and do a really good live version

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and I know that the night that I did that I was

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really feeling it and I think it comes out. on

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when you listen to it and that's what I wanted.

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Yeah well I'm just listening to it then with

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Sue and it's sort of, I can imagine an audience

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out there because it was taking me so well done

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and so it takes you away and I can imagine people

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actually there in the venue hearing that live.

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it takes you it really is it's an incredible

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song and it does honestly if it's a great one

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to me it just takes you away from it and it's

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the most amazing ballad one of the best ballads

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i've ever heard in 30 odd years i'm assuming

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it's amazing and it does take you away i think

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you were feeling much the same incredible chris

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what a great choice you've made to to put that

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on um like i say nick it doesn't really matter

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if it sells 10 000 or 10 The thing is, when people

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like yourself play it, a lot of people are at

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least gonna hear it by the real thing, by the

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real thing. And if they hear it once, they hear

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it once. If they hear it many times, if they

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buy it, they'll hear it as many times as they

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want, but at least they hear it. And for the

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last 40 years, over 40 years, they haven't heard

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it unless they bought a Four From Eight album.

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show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they'd had the

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fantastic version that Ray, who's singing lead,

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how he does it, you know. But we just felt it

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was time. And we're now in control. People say

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to me, you know, why haven't you done something

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for so long, 40 years? What's taking you so long?

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Well, 40 years is incredible, but you know, the

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thing is, is that like, you know, There comes

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a time with all successful artists where commercially

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your star starts to fade a bit, right? And this

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happens to everybody, no matter who you are.

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Now, depending on the type of person you are,

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you can either say, OK, I'm finished now. We've

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had our thing and finished. Or you can ask yourself,

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well, why is our star starting to fade? and you

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can try and do something about it and you know

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then you rely on your creativity to try and keep

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coming up with good songs right but unfortunately

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what happens is the record companies once you

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start your commercial start starts to fade you

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don't listen to your stuff anymore so you're

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writing what you consider really nice material

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which you know the people if they got the chance

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to listen to would like they're only listening

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to it with half an ear the record companies so

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basically you're not getting the chance to even

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get it to the people who might like it but what's

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happened over the years is technology and technology

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has put everything back in the artist's hands

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And we've now got platforms that can, you can

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now get the end result onto a platform that at

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least the people can hear what you've done and

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judge what you've done. And the record companies

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have got nothing to do with it. Sure. Absolutely.

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Absolutely. Yeah. No listening children of the

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ghetto. You would not have heard that. if we'd

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have been with a record company, the only thing

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you would have heard is what they consider should

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be a single. And if they didn't consider anything

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on it a single, you wouldn't even hear the album

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because there wouldn't be one. But now you're

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hearing an album, you can judge for yourself.

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And it's amazing. It really is. And the other

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side of hang on, never let go. That's another

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really incredible song. I love, I absolutely

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love it. I love singing it. You can feel the

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emotion in it, sorry. Yes, yes, go on, sing,

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go on. You can feel your emotion and how you

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feel when you're singing a song in that song.

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Yes, and that's why I don't know if you've noticed

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there's a lot of ballads on there. That's because

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I think that the real thing are not only known

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for you to me, but it's the feeling that things

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like you to me generate it. It's a sound that

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is also important. And I'll tell you why I say

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this. You to me was covered by a lot of famous

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people like Frankie Valli and that. It meant

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nothing. Yeah, I agree with that. But when the

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real thing do it, it means something. And that's

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because the sound suits the song. That's my song

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for you, isn't it, Dolly? It is, actually. Believe

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it or not. A real thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It

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really is. This is Nick and Sue with Cheddar

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Box, giving you all you need to know about musical

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entertainment. Cheddar Box. Cheddar Box. Cheddar

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Box. We feel that we can best bring our sound

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across with ballads, which isn't to say, don't

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get me wrong, I don't like a nice dance track

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that you put on. I like to do a ballad. When

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I'm listening to my favorite artist, which used

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to be Luther Vandross. Now Luther used to do

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a lot of up tempo songs, but let's be honest,

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what were the big songs on his albums? It was

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the ballads, wasn't it? House is Not a Home,

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the things like that. They were the big ones,

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you know. I just think that the real thing at

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this point in time can best sell our vocal sound

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with ballads. And I also think that it can give

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people a nice, romantic, feel -good feeling listening

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to the ballads when all this crap is going on

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around us. You know, you put something like,

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hang on, never let go on. You don't have to sit

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there and think, oh, what does that mean? What

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does it mean? You just sit back and you just

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appreciate it for what it is. You either like

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it or you don't like it, but you just, it doesn't

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offend you in any way. It's just a nice, romantic

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ballad. And that was the whole idea behind us

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putting a lot of ballads. And I make no excuses

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for it. We like ballads. And we think a lot of

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the people who enjoy real thing, as well as having

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a nice dance on the dance floor, they also like

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ballads as well. Absolutely. Now, when I was...

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Now, you can hear everything and the 70s stuff.

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It's great, but it's also really good that we're

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here. We're not talking about Chris Amu and the

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real thing that had this hit and this hit in

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the 70s. We're actually here and it's so good.

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We're actually talking about a whole new album.

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We don't need to do the old stuff. It's true.

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It's so wonderful. It's the first time I've felt

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like this and Dave. It's the first time we've

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felt like this in 40 years. That's brilliant.

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We've had records. We've had records out. We've

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had record companies who would put records out

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like Crime of Love and, you know, We Got Love

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and things like that. But they'd never sort of

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say, right, let's do an album. Never. They'd

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never say let's do an album. And this time we've

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actually done it ourselves. And you're playing

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it. and other people will be playing it. And

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that's the first time in 40 years that we've

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been able to sort of do that. And we think there

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are people out there who want to hear stuff from

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Real Thing. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. your

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musical duo. And then of course Sue and I do

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live shows elsewhere and I do a brilliant chill

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out zone to die for. That's going on, I can assure

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you. I want to speak to you first but you know.

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So yeah, that is a real... Chill Out Zone thing,

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which is enjoyed by people all over the world.

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So, yeah. And just so brilliant and congratulations.

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It's amazing. I never had any doubt that you

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weren't going to put it off. I'm not knocking

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the past because what you've done in the past,

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that's probably what grabs people initially.

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Oh, they get some to listen to that. Chris, back

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to you, mate. Yeah. So digitally, This album's

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already available. Yes, available from two days

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ago. Beautiful. And we've got a date now for

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a CD. Yes, the CD will be available within the

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next two to three weeks on Amazon. Beautiful,

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beautiful. And is this just a single we're talking

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about? Hang on, Never Let Go, Children of the

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Ghetto, or is it the album as well? Is that already

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out on digital as well? Yes, the album's out

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as well. You can buy just the singles if you

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want or you can buy the album and we hope you're

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going to buy the album. Of course. I haven't

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got any questions. Put your hand up. If you want

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the lutes that way. The thing I was going to

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say about the real thing is when you listen to

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their music it's unique. How do I explain it?

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We need your help here. When you're playing your

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songs you know it's you, it's no one else. Does

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that make sense? Yes it does make sense. it does

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make sense and that's one of the reasons why

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we decided Dave and I that we weren't going to

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bring a third member into the group because when

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Eddie died the easiest thing for us to have done

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would have been to okay let's bring somebody

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else in so that we still got three and you know

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a lot of people would have been think wouldn't

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have even known they would have been thinking

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oh it's free that's the real thing We thought,

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number one, Eddie couldn't be replaced. He couldn't

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be replaced. And number two, we thought, if we

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bring somebody else in, it's no longer going

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to be real thing. No matter which way you want

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to look at it, it's not going to be real thing

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anymore. And people will start thinking, ooh,

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is it the real, real thing? I don't remember

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him, you know? And not only that, the texture

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of the sound. would change. So it's like Sue

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just said, when you hear the real thing, you

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know it's them. You bring somebody else in and

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I don't care what anyone says, it changes the

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texture. Whereas what me and Dave do at the moment

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is I can sing all Eddie's parts onto the album.

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And because I sung 99 % of the leads on the song,

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we've still got the real thing lead vocal sound.

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But we've also maintained the harmony sound because

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with Eddie, myself and Dave singing together

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for so long, the timbre of the voices become

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one. So even though I've put Eddie's voice onto

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the album, it still sounds like Eddie. Yeah,

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yeah, okay, that's brilliant. And so therefore

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the actual sound of the real thing hasn't changed.

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on this album. You can listen to this now and

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it'll be the same vocal sound as it was you listen

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to any past real thing album. Yeah I agree with

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that totally. Well there's no fans or music lovers

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out there from the earlier stuff. No one's going

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to be left disappointed with this, not at all

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Eddie. It's just amazing and you've done yourself

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proud, done Eddie proud as well, you really have,

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it's amazing. Thank you. I appreciate that. Let's

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hope all our fans think that as well. I've got

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a very, very important question. Are you planning

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on going on tour? Yes, we're starting off next

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week in Horn Church at the Queen's Theatre. on

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the 5th and then we're doing the Jazz Cafe on

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the 12th of February. So you know in the next

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couple of weeks we're coming to Horn Church,

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we're coming to London and then the tour starts

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to really kick off as well. Let's hope you're

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near us as well. Just having a look through because

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I know you've been to, we're in Hastings as I

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think you know, just thinking if you're coming

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anywhere near. I know you've been to the White

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Rock a few times because you mentioned it. You

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know something weird keeps happening with the

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White Rock. something always happens and they

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seem to get cancelled yeah it's a lot of stuff

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but last time it was covid the time before that

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there was something that happened i know something

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happened uh where we couldn't do i think it might

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have been the party when we were off when eddie

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died oh but i know it just twice it's happened

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down there um because we've got we've got family

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in hastings alone yeah my cousin's family live

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in hastings as well. So I know we were looking

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forward to doing it. But hopefully we'll be coming

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there. Hopefully. It's a medium -sized venue.

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Well, it's quite easy to remember its capacity.

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You'll remember this for the rest of your life

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now. Here's the Battle of Hastings 1066. The

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theatre actually has 1066 seats. That's how you

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know what your capacity is when you sell out.

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I didn't know that. I didn't know that either,

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I've lived all my life in pasties. It really

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is, it really is. Yeah, it's a nice one to remember,

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isn't it? Chris, if you can get to the Right

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Rock Theatre, I will come and see you. Absolutely.

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Well, I hope you do and I hope you come in. Well,

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you know my email and everything now, just email

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me and let me know if we're there and I'll arrange

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for you to come in. No, just get, you know Barry,

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don't you? I know Barry well, yeah, yeah. When

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we're there, Tell Bally that you come in and

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we'll do an interview from there. Oh, that'd

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be amazing. That would be amazing. We'll do a

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nice interview from there, you know, and yeah,

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that would be great. So do that. That's great.

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Thank you, Chris. Thank you for your time. Now,

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let's have a look at some social media stuff.

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Chris, if you could just say you've got about

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eight minutes, you're given eight minutes. This

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is a hard one. You've got a radio station or

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show. saying right you've got eight minutes to

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pick your two favorite tracks of the new album

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which ones would they be or your two best ones

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as opposed to favorite perhaps i was i like them

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all so i'll say favorites as opposed to best

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ones children of the ghetto yeah you see i like

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i love but i love hang on but you know the ghetto

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quadrilogy that's on there there's a song called

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daddy deer okay which I want you and Sue to listen

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to and let me know what you think. I'm serious.

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No, we'll do that. Listen to The Ghetto quadrilogy

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when you've got a few minutes. Yeah. Because

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I would say that that's what we're most proud

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of, that particular section. But if you ask me

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what I actually really like, like Children of

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The Ghetto, I'm like, hang on, never let go.

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Now, social media time somewhere here. brilliant

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websites yes so anybody wishes take a further

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look at the real thing www .therealthingofficial

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.com yes once again www .therealthingofficial

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.com now in addition to that you've got a youtube

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channel i believe yes we have and you can get

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us on facebook of course of course yeah um We'd

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like the thing about Facebook the thing about

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the real thing Facebook is You will get things

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if you follow us that you won't get if you don't

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for instance I do a lot of question and answers

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on video when people have got questions Once

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we get enough people enough questions coming

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on like about once every couple of months I'll

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come on or Dave will come on and we'll answer

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your questions on video And for instance, if

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you've got particular favorites, tracks on the

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album, or you want to talk about tracks on the

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album, send your things onto our Facebook page.

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And once we've got enough, I'll promise you,

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I will come on and personally answer your questions

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for you. That's brilliant. That's very nice.

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You've always been generous with your time, Chris,

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but that's amazing. So have you got any more

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questions for Chris at all? No, I just want to

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go and buy the album. I actually like the cover

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of the album because looking at the picture it

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actually says a lot it could say a very lot because

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the way you're what's the word there's a word

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I'm looking the way you're walking and the body

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language says a lot in the album picture of the

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album yeah that's fantastic I'll tell Graham

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because my our sound tech Graham We worked on

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that together and we're both very proud of the

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cover. Once again, we're about to do it all ourselves.

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There's no professional photographers and things

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like that coming. It's something that we've done

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ourselves, which once again, we're very proud

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of. So thanks for picking that up. The new album

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for The Real Thing, A Brand New Day, is already

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available for download. And yes, by the time

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this goes out actually, be available on CD as

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well from next week, because we've got weeks

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to go. And yeah, the double A -sided single as

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well. Hang on, Never Let Go with the Children

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of the Ghetto live version of that amazing version.

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Chris, thank you so much. It's been a pleasure.

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Thank you so much. We're looking forward to the

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next time already. It's been an absolute pleasure.

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No problem at all. Likewise. Just keep us updated

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when you release new stuff, please. Very sensitive.

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We will. You take care now, Chris. Thank you,

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sir. Thank you very much. Take care. Bye -bye.

00:25:37.950 --> 00:26:37.859
Bye -bye. to the Chatterbox Redux podcast with

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Nick and Sue and today we were joined by Chris

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Amoo of The Real Thing. The email address is

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00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:07.819
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