WEBVTT 00:00:01.780 --> 00:00:06.620 And now here they are, Nick and Sue on Chatterbox. 00:00:06.759 --> 00:00:10.099 When the stars talk, they talk to Nick and Sue. 00:00:31.530 --> 00:00:34.890 to the Chatterbox Redux Podcast. My name's Nick 00:00:34.890 --> 00:01:00.939 and today my guest is Eden Kane. We're Chatterbox 00:01:00.939 --> 00:01:04.480 giving you all you need to know about musical 00:01:04.480 --> 00:01:12.799 attainment Oh yeah Chatterbox The best interviews 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:17.879 with Nick and Sue Chatterbox The best news and 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:26.379 reviews for you all Chatterbox And now on Chatterbox 00:01:26.379 --> 00:01:29.200 UK we're just lucky enough to welcome Eden Kane 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:33.819 How are you, sir? I'm very well. I'm OK. Thank 00:01:33.819 --> 00:01:36.859 you very much. It looks a lot more sunny over 00:01:36.859 --> 00:01:38.459 where you are, the other side of the pond, than 00:01:38.459 --> 00:01:42.640 it is here. Yeah, it's a little bit more than 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:45.299 sunny here. It's hot. We're having a bit of a 00:01:45.299 --> 00:01:50.900 heat wave. But we're coping with it. Little air 00:01:50.900 --> 00:01:56.959 conditioning. knowledge of Eden Kane. I mean, 00:01:56.959 --> 00:01:59.200 I told you off air that I go back to the 80s, 00:01:59.299 --> 00:02:02.379 but being born in the late 60s myself. Well, 00:02:02.540 --> 00:02:05.140 dare I say your brother Peter was at number one 00:02:05.140 --> 00:02:06.799 when I was born. So it gives you an idea how 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:09.340 old I am. But my mum's record collection did 00:02:09.340 --> 00:02:11.719 have a couple of your songs in. And if I remember 00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:13.800 correctly, they were Blue Decker Decker label. 00:02:14.199 --> 00:02:17.199 That's right. Yeah. I played them. So I knew 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:19.740 who you were when I started getting into music. 00:02:19.800 --> 00:02:22.699 So that's all good. And how amazing is it to 00:02:22.699 --> 00:02:25.590 be able to chat to you? But tell me, how it came 00:02:25.590 --> 00:02:30.389 about why this song tell us all about that well 00:02:30.389 --> 00:02:35.189 uh you know different uh songwriters um i'm calling 00:02:35.189 --> 00:02:38.430 myself a songwriter now and they write different 00:02:38.430 --> 00:02:40.710 songs they write their songs in different ways 00:02:40.710 --> 00:02:43.990 you know and sometimes it comes inspirational 00:02:43.990 --> 00:02:46.349 you know everything is a figment of your imagination 00:02:46.349 --> 00:02:51.400 anyway so so basically whenever you get an idea 00:02:51.400 --> 00:02:54.860 for a song, you either, if you have the foresight 00:02:54.860 --> 00:02:59.400 to have a pencil handy or you can record it on 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:01.979 your phone or whatever it is. And so once you 00:03:01.979 --> 00:03:06.639 get a basic idea of what you think, this particular 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:08.659 song, a little bit of rock and roll started out 00:03:08.659 --> 00:03:11.699 as exactly what the title is saying. It's a little 00:03:11.699 --> 00:03:14.280 bit of rock and roll, which basically, I mean, 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:16.919 I'd written songs before. They were sort of country 00:03:16.919 --> 00:03:21.740 -ish and also a little bit like that, but not 00:03:21.740 --> 00:03:23.740 completely sort of a rock and roll thing. And 00:03:23.740 --> 00:03:26.319 this one isn't either. This is more of a country 00:03:26.319 --> 00:03:29.259 song that kind of tells a story. And it's basically, 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:33.199 I was inspired by a movie, as a matter of fact, 00:03:33.580 --> 00:03:37.439 by Marlon Brando called One -Eyed Jacks. And 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:43.080 it's about a guy in a bar and he's trying to 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:48.219 pick up a girl who's at the bar. And then he 00:03:48.219 --> 00:03:52.180 realizes that her boyfriend is a Mexican bandit. 00:03:52.479 --> 00:03:54.659 So I thought, you know, oh, that's interesting. 00:03:55.159 --> 00:03:57.159 Now I've got to come up with a tune. So basically 00:03:57.159 --> 00:04:00.400 that's that was the germ of the of the idea is 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:02.360 I was a great Brando fan in those days. It was 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:06.199 the one one of the movies, maybe the only one 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:10.360 that that he directed as well. And so I thought, 00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:12.400 that's interesting. Maybe I could make this into 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:18.139 a into a little rocker, you know, and And it 00:04:18.139 --> 00:04:20.620 happened. So that was great. That's brilliant. 00:04:20.980 --> 00:04:23.939 So there's me thinking, well, maybe part of it, 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:28.420 the inspiration is your story, perhaps. Is there 00:04:28.420 --> 00:04:31.920 maybe some subliminal sort of something behind 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:34.220 this, you know, that may have crept into the 00:04:34.220 --> 00:04:36.879 song about your life in particular, being a rock 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:40.149 and roll star yourself? Yeah, no, not only that. 00:04:40.430 --> 00:04:43.290 No, not really. I wish I could say, okay, this, 00:04:43.290 --> 00:04:46.209 this had some sort of deep meaning to it, but 00:04:46.209 --> 00:04:48.569 no, no, no, it's just basically a little rock 00:04:48.569 --> 00:04:50.649 and roll song, you know, it's a little bit of 00:04:50.649 --> 00:04:54.889 rock and roll. And, um, and so, no, there's, 00:04:54.970 --> 00:04:57.250 there's no hidden meaning. It's, but it's, it's 00:04:57.250 --> 00:05:00.509 a traditional story, you know, boy meets a girl 00:05:00.509 --> 00:05:05.970 or tries to to go a little bit further but realize 00:05:05.970 --> 00:05:10.709 that she has a boyfriend. So then, as far as 00:05:10.709 --> 00:05:15.910 the music part of it was concerned, that's something 00:05:15.910 --> 00:05:21.410 that came afterwards and then the rest is history, 00:05:21.490 --> 00:05:26.410 I guess. Great history there. What else can we 00:05:26.410 --> 00:05:30.139 expect from you? song you said yourself you've 00:05:30.139 --> 00:05:32.980 been doing songwriting and you know right yeah 00:05:32.980 --> 00:05:38.439 my other songs uh you know the the songs that 00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:42.199 were hits in the early days um they were written 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:44.680 by most of them were written by uh well three 00:05:44.680 --> 00:05:48.920 of them were for sure maybe four but uh the fourth 00:05:48.920 --> 00:05:51.720 one wasn't a hit was will i ask you uh get lost 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:53.779 and forget me not were written by johnny worth 00:05:53.779 --> 00:05:59.980 uh slash les van dyck who also wrote what do 00:05:59.980 --> 00:06:03.899 you want for Adam Faith. So my management said 00:06:03.899 --> 00:06:07.199 can you write a song for our boy type of thing 00:06:07.199 --> 00:06:09.860 and they said sure. So Johnny came up with will 00:06:09.860 --> 00:06:12.660 I ask you so he wrote the song and then I was 00:06:12.660 --> 00:06:15.699 kind of dabbling in writing so I wrote some of 00:06:15.699 --> 00:06:17.560 the b -sides they said well we stick your song 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:20.319 on the b -side type of thing so you know that's 00:06:20.319 --> 00:06:26.980 how my songwriting started and now when I I got 00:06:26.980 --> 00:06:28.899 some good reaction from this particular song. 00:06:29.000 --> 00:06:31.420 I was doing it on tour when I was on tour with 00:06:31.420 --> 00:06:38.600 Marty Wilde and Joe Brown and Mark Winter, Mike 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:42.199 Berry. So we did quite a few tours together, 00:06:42.379 --> 00:06:46.759 especially with Marty, my old mate. And the band 00:06:46.759 --> 00:06:48.660 seemed to say, hey, Rick, that's a good song. 00:06:49.279 --> 00:06:53.500 You know, that you should make some... make an 00:06:53.500 --> 00:06:55.519 effort to try to make it make it work. And so 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:57.759 that's that's it started then. I'm talking a 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:01.860 few years ago. And so I decided to do it, you 00:07:01.860 --> 00:07:04.279 know, redo, redo it, you know, with a new producer. 00:07:05.019 --> 00:07:06.860 Yeah, I like that. Well, you mentioned Marty 00:07:06.860 --> 00:07:10.860 Wilde and Marty Wilde is the singer that I've 00:07:10.860 --> 00:07:13.939 actually interviewed the most times. Seventeen. 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:17.720 Wow. I mean, I mean, Marty, yeah, that's great. 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:20.339 You know, but I've got to ask you a couple of 00:07:20.339 --> 00:07:21.839 I mean, we talk about the song and where you 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:23.779 want to go with it and tours and everything else 00:07:23.779 --> 00:07:27.199 in limo but as we got into the early days briefly 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:30.819 a couple of songs a couple of questions one well 00:07:30.819 --> 00:07:32.740 both of these i've actually asked marty over 00:07:32.740 --> 00:07:36.220 the years is sort of like when you get out on 00:07:36.220 --> 00:07:43.259 that stage as edan cain do you keep your private 00:07:43.259 --> 00:07:47.120 persona behind you is that left behind and you 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:49.139 get in on stage in your Eden Kane when it's finished 00:07:49.139 --> 00:07:52.259 you're not Eden Kane anymore can you split the 00:07:52.259 --> 00:07:56.740 two up or how does it work out? That's a great 00:07:56.740 --> 00:08:01.279 question actually because I'm sure you get two 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:03.439 answers from you know you get one or two it's 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:08.120 either one or two one is yes you change you become 00:08:08.120 --> 00:08:12.689 who you are you know so I'm Rick Sarsour once 00:08:12.689 --> 00:08:15.189 I get out of the suit and all that kind of stuff, 00:08:15.310 --> 00:08:21.129 you know, and I'm off stage type thing, that 00:08:21.129 --> 00:08:23.910 would be, if you continue with that, you know, 00:08:23.910 --> 00:08:26.290 I think that's kind of dangerous, you know, because 00:08:26.290 --> 00:08:28.250 suddenly you're going to be very disappointed, 00:08:28.370 --> 00:08:30.769 you know, if you're expecting to suddenly be 00:08:30.769 --> 00:08:33.289 treated like Eden Cain as you're on the stage 00:08:33.289 --> 00:08:36.129 in real life type of thing, because the stage 00:08:36.129 --> 00:08:39.409 is like a fantasy world. It's another world. 00:08:39.710 --> 00:08:41.629 there are there are other people who are who 00:08:41.629 --> 00:08:44.110 are they they are all the time some folk singers 00:08:44.110 --> 00:08:47.149 and blah blah blah and they they just are that 00:08:47.149 --> 00:08:52.009 person you know um me with me uh even you know 00:08:52.009 --> 00:08:55.169 even kane was is an act you know and and although 00:08:55.169 --> 00:08:58.529 i'm him and i enjoy being out there doing it 00:08:58.529 --> 00:09:04.450 um when i get off stage um i'm i'm rick yes great 00:09:04.450 --> 00:09:08.759 great marty's answer was pretty similar To be 00:09:08.759 --> 00:09:12.279 quite honest with you, bearing in mind he was 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:15.299 having hits 57 times. Oh, yeah. I mean, Marty 00:09:15.299 --> 00:09:17.919 was one of my idols way back and still is. I 00:09:17.919 --> 00:09:21.419 mean, from the old boy days, you know. Oh, yeah, 00:09:21.500 --> 00:09:25.179 of course. Yeah. With Cliff and Billy and Billy 00:09:25.179 --> 00:09:29.419 and all those guys. And well, there was a bunch 00:09:29.419 --> 00:09:32.700 of them. Even Joe was, I think, in that era, 00:09:33.480 --> 00:09:37.169 starting in the late 58, 59. Yeah, I've met Mark 00:09:37.169 --> 00:09:39.309 Winter said much the same, you know, it is different. 00:09:40.250 --> 00:09:42.470 Yeah. Yeah. It's a great answer. But it also 00:09:42.470 --> 00:09:45.409 it also means I can ask a great question to people 00:09:45.409 --> 00:09:47.690 listening at home. But it's also not encroaching 00:09:47.690 --> 00:09:50.690 on you personally, you know, which is it's interesting 00:09:50.690 --> 00:09:52.909 as to how it works out because you've had a few 00:09:52.909 --> 00:09:56.669 years practice now. That's a couple. This is 00:09:56.669 --> 00:09:59.090 Nick and Sue with Chatterbox giving you all you 00:09:59.090 --> 00:10:04.129 need to know about musical entertainment. Chatterbox. 00:10:05.849 --> 00:10:11.070 Can I ask you, why did you not go with the surname 00:10:11.070 --> 00:10:14.690 Sarstet when Robin and Peter kept it? I know 00:10:14.690 --> 00:10:16.690 you were a little bit ahead of them, but what 00:10:16.690 --> 00:10:18.210 was the reason? Was it a management decision 00:10:18.210 --> 00:10:22.610 or was that yours initially? Well, first of all, 00:10:22.690 --> 00:10:25.269 Peter, he came later so he didn't tell me that 00:10:25.269 --> 00:10:34.090 it would work. Basically, you know, people want 00:10:34.090 --> 00:10:36.629 to have like a marquee type name, or at least 00:10:36.629 --> 00:10:38.429 the management, you know, when they find someone 00:10:38.429 --> 00:10:40.629 and they say, I have to change your name, because 00:10:40.629 --> 00:10:43.570 in my case, it was Richard Sarstead. That's too 00:10:43.570 --> 00:10:45.009 complicated. You know, it's not going to look 00:10:45.009 --> 00:10:47.710 good on a marquee or whatever it is, because 00:10:47.710 --> 00:10:50.610 they had a plan. You know, they were, you know, 00:10:50.769 --> 00:10:52.470 they were the guys with the big cigars, you know, 00:10:52.529 --> 00:10:54.860 so I got to make you a star boy. But you've got 00:10:54.860 --> 00:10:56.740 to do what you're told. First of all, we've got 00:10:56.740 --> 00:10:59.700 to change your name and make it into something 00:10:59.700 --> 00:11:04.679 more that's easier to deal with. So that was 00:11:04.679 --> 00:11:07.460 the reason. And then they came up with the name. 00:11:07.980 --> 00:11:11.480 And at the time, I was thinking to myself, I'll 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:15.279 do anything. I'm suddenly being discovered, as 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:17.720 they say. And so they tell you to do something. 00:11:17.879 --> 00:11:21.759 And you say, oh, absolutely. just give me my 00:11:21.759 --> 00:11:25.759 20 quid, I'll be fine. But it was just basically 00:11:25.759 --> 00:11:29.379 me agreeing with them saying, okay, you're going 00:11:29.379 --> 00:11:31.679 to be now Eden King. And so I went, okay, and 00:11:31.679 --> 00:11:34.059 it worked. So it does. Right. Well, it did work, 00:11:34.179 --> 00:11:36.340 didn't it? Yeah, absolutely. How does this compare 00:11:36.340 --> 00:11:41.139 in 2025 to early 60s? So do you still get this? 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:43.399 Do you still get recognized? And is it a pain 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:47.019 in the backside? No, well, I live in LA, you 00:11:47.019 --> 00:11:53.419 know, to begin with, and also When I had my brief 00:11:53.419 --> 00:11:57.080 success back in the 60s, and we did try to go 00:11:57.080 --> 00:12:01.580 to New York, we did try to break into the American 00:12:01.580 --> 00:12:05.379 scene. We went to New York and I popped in and 00:12:05.379 --> 00:12:08.179 saw all these people and DJs like Murray the 00:12:08.179 --> 00:12:11.519 K and people like that. I went to the Apollo 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:15.179 Theater in New York and I watched the Yeah, you 00:12:15.179 --> 00:12:17.059 know, I put my head in the dressing room doors 00:12:17.059 --> 00:12:19.840 of Smokey Robinson and the Supremes and all those 00:12:19.840 --> 00:12:22.879 people, blah, blah, blah. But then me going in 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:26.440 that day, this is pre Beatles, obviously, and, 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:29.379 you know, British acts at the time, you know, 00:12:29.580 --> 00:12:31.779 it was like taking calls to Newcastle in a way, 00:12:31.940 --> 00:12:34.100 you know, you go with, we have one of you, we 00:12:34.100 --> 00:12:38.500 have several of you, you know, that's my interpretation 00:12:38.500 --> 00:12:42.299 of it. You know, go back to, you know. go back 00:12:42.299 --> 00:12:46.759 where you're a little bit more, you're not the 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:52.519 usual, because they already had their quarter 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:56.500 of rock star, Frankie Avalon and Fabian and Bobby 00:12:56.500 --> 00:12:58.500 Rydell, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, and 00:12:58.500 --> 00:13:01.700 a whole bunch of people. But then when the Beatles 00:13:01.700 --> 00:13:03.600 broke through and the whole world changed, but 00:13:03.600 --> 00:13:06.659 at that time it was all about American music 00:13:06.659 --> 00:13:12.070 and about American acts. Another one who was 00:13:12.070 --> 00:13:14.529 huge who got affected soon after the Beatles 00:13:14.529 --> 00:13:20.610 was different to you and Marty we say, but of 00:13:20.610 --> 00:13:27.190 course we did have Frank Ifield who quite amazingly 00:13:27.190 --> 00:13:33.470 had the Beatles support him, but when the four 00:13:33.470 --> 00:13:36.190 boys, you know, the Mersey beat scene came along, 00:13:36.529 --> 00:13:38.710 it did seem to affect a lot of these solo artists 00:13:38.710 --> 00:13:41.230 unfortunately and a lot of great guys. people 00:13:41.230 --> 00:13:44.090 were buying the record sale. What did you do 00:13:44.090 --> 00:13:46.889 in the intervening years from when that happened 00:13:46.889 --> 00:13:50.029 to the present day? I mean have you always toured? 00:13:50.110 --> 00:13:53.070 I know you've done some of these tours with like 00:13:53.070 --> 00:13:56.309 Marty we've said and a few others. What have 00:13:56.309 --> 00:13:58.549 you basically done? I mean has the tours been 00:13:58.549 --> 00:14:00.889 almost annually or what's been going on over 00:14:00.889 --> 00:14:04.909 the decades? Right well over the decades it's 00:14:04.909 --> 00:14:08.490 somehow it was we usually started the tour it 00:14:08.490 --> 00:14:14.000 was usually a fall tour, I should say, starting 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:19.759 at around September, October, November, in that 00:14:19.759 --> 00:14:25.259 little section. And the tours were either very 00:14:25.259 --> 00:14:28.000 long tours, some of them were like 53 days, and 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:30.320 the others were more, and then they eventually 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:35.740 got cut down to about 20 or 30. So in those days, 00:14:36.279 --> 00:14:38.700 it was like, you know, the 60s are back, it was 00:14:38.700 --> 00:14:41.370 one of the, one of the eras that was one of the 00:14:41.370 --> 00:14:47.750 most popular eras I think you know and then I 00:14:47.750 --> 00:14:51.210 was very happy to be to be part of that you know 00:14:51.210 --> 00:14:54.389 and when we first started out and there was a 00:14:54.389 --> 00:14:59.049 whatchamacallit a production company called Flying 00:14:59.049 --> 00:15:02.429 Music you know that was headed by Derek Nichol 00:15:02.429 --> 00:15:07.090 fantastic guy and a great friend And he organized 00:15:07.090 --> 00:15:09.649 all these early tours of Solid Gold and etc. 00:15:09.929 --> 00:15:12.649 etc. etc. I was just happy to be there, you know, 00:15:12.690 --> 00:15:14.590 because I've been doing other stuff. I've been 00:15:14.590 --> 00:15:20.429 doing like real estate, you know, and doing work 00:15:20.429 --> 00:15:24.750 in the movies and things like that, because no 00:15:24.750 --> 00:15:30.570 one had ever heard of me over here in LA. And 00:15:30.570 --> 00:15:34.320 so it was great to go okay to go back. and then 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:37.080 go back to being in Cambridge for a little while 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:40.159 and enjoy myself. It was good. It was great fun. 00:15:40.759 --> 00:15:42.860 It's great. It's great you can be in LA and just 00:15:42.860 --> 00:15:45.559 chill out and you don't get all that. There must 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:47.320 have been a point in the early 60s when you couldn't 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:49.899 go to the local shop or go to a pub. Those days 00:15:49.899 --> 00:15:52.740 were gone. Yeah. There was a couple of weeks 00:15:52.740 --> 00:15:59.259 back there that I couldn't. But basically I wasn't 00:15:59.259 --> 00:16:01.639 like wandering around saying I wonder if I'm 00:16:01.639 --> 00:16:03.960 going to be recognized. But there was, there 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:08.500 is a moment if you get to, I mean, when at the 00:16:08.500 --> 00:16:13.659 beginning of, uh, of the whole thing, when I, 00:16:13.659 --> 00:16:15.519 well, I asked who came out and then he said, 00:16:15.779 --> 00:16:18.799 and he goes to number one, you know, and people 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:20.539 usually say, don't let that go to your head, 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:23.440 mate. He said, you know, you know, this is, this 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:26.340 is temporary. You know, this is a fleeting thing. 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:28.779 So don't start getting big headed about it and 00:16:28.779 --> 00:16:31.139 all that. And actually, and I didn't, but there, 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:34.340 there were moments. you know, where you, you 00:16:34.340 --> 00:16:37.960 do sort of enter into that sort of persona and 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:41.320 start thinking, Oh my God, you know, um, you, 00:16:41.460 --> 00:16:43.100 you became a little bit more entitled or you 00:16:43.100 --> 00:16:45.600 think you are, you know, uh, but you soon wake 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:49.259 up. Sure. But then again, saying that, so we're 00:16:49.259 --> 00:16:51.399 talking about that and getting to number one 00:16:51.399 --> 00:16:57.730 or forget me not. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. in 1961 or 00:16:57.730 --> 00:17:00.690 62 when you couldn't possibly have envisaged 00:17:00.690 --> 00:17:03.210 it's all right saying that you know you could 00:17:03.210 --> 00:17:07.289 have envisaged in 2025 people like myself will 00:17:07.289 --> 00:17:13.170 be wanting to talk to you and talk to you it's 00:17:13.170 --> 00:17:18.130 crazy it's a miracle it's a miracle it's a flat 00:17:18.130 --> 00:17:23.559 miracle uh the But basically, you know, sometimes, 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:25.920 you know, you try to be I don't I don't want 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:32.839 to be to say, oh, it's all about the music, you 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:36.779 know, it is in a way and it's all about song. 00:17:36.779 --> 00:17:39.339 So when you first have a hit record, it's about 00:17:39.339 --> 00:17:41.740 the song because it's all they did back in the 00:17:41.740 --> 00:17:44.640 day. They just heard it on the radio, you know, 00:17:44.700 --> 00:17:48.440 and then. Then there'd be a follow -up if there 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:50.900 was a success. So they never saw you until you 00:17:50.900 --> 00:17:54.079 went on one of the shows like Thank Your Lucky 00:17:54.079 --> 00:17:58.279 Stars back in the day or Top of the Pops and 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:02.019 all that kind of stuff. Then suddenly because 00:18:02.019 --> 00:18:04.980 as soon as you get on television, then you're 00:18:04.980 --> 00:18:12.420 that person. So I can't go... You can never go 00:18:12.420 --> 00:18:15.099 back and say, I can do that again because I... 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:17.160 I know I can't, I mean, I'm way too old for that. 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:22.480 But, um, but I can still, if, if you can still 00:18:22.480 --> 00:18:25.039 do something, you should do it, right? That's 00:18:25.039 --> 00:18:27.680 what I was thinking. I mean, and I would realize 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:29.940 if they say, well, I'm way too old and decrepit 00:18:29.940 --> 00:18:31.539 to do any more of that stuff, you know, can't 00:18:31.539 --> 00:18:33.500 do that. Certain things, of course, I can't, 00:18:33.539 --> 00:18:39.839 you know, but But then you say, OK, I can do 00:18:39.839 --> 00:18:41.880 this. I can still write a song and I can still 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:46.720 sing it. So let's give it a go. Sing it pretty 00:18:46.720 --> 00:18:50.420 well as well, actually. I'm very happy with the 00:18:50.420 --> 00:18:52.079 way I found it. It so happened, that's true, 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:56.140 because I live in L .A. and because there are 00:18:56.140 --> 00:19:00.700 a lot of people that I've met in the business 00:19:00.700 --> 00:19:07.250 and people who have become friends. before they 00:19:07.250 --> 00:19:11.869 became helping me with music and stuff, like 00:19:11.869 --> 00:19:16.630 a producer who produced a little bit. His name 00:19:16.630 --> 00:19:18.369 is Michael Lloyd and he's been in the business 00:19:18.369 --> 00:19:21.369 for a long, long time and he's got a hundred 00:19:21.369 --> 00:19:25.750 platinum records on his wall. And we were friends 00:19:25.750 --> 00:19:28.910 way before I said, hey, Mike, I've got the song. 00:19:30.970 --> 00:19:33.289 Let's go in the studio and do something. Are 00:19:33.289 --> 00:19:35.769 you up for it? And he said, yeah, yeah, sure, 00:19:35.930 --> 00:19:38.269 let's, yeah, let's try it, you know, and so, 00:19:38.369 --> 00:19:42.190 so I'm back. And what about the video that goes 00:19:42.190 --> 00:19:44.029 with a little bit of rock and roll? Oh, the video, 00:19:44.210 --> 00:19:47.349 there was an, we were going to do a green screen 00:19:47.349 --> 00:19:50.289 thing where there was going to be some fantastic 00:19:50.289 --> 00:19:52.849 things and people still do that, you know, where 00:19:52.849 --> 00:19:56.349 they're, you know, it's, it's all with the AI 00:19:56.349 --> 00:19:59.009 and the background, because I remember when I 00:19:59.009 --> 00:20:02.539 was working on Star Trek, there'd be a scene 00:20:02.539 --> 00:20:05.839 and the actors would actors would come out onto 00:20:05.839 --> 00:20:08.519 a balcony and then there was and we're talking 00:20:08.519 --> 00:20:12.519 25 30 years ago and when the green it was green 00:20:12.519 --> 00:20:16.119 screen and it was blue screen and there was thousands 00:20:16.119 --> 00:20:19.940 of people you know it took like Star Trek but 00:20:19.940 --> 00:20:22.720 back in the day Star Trek took eight days to 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:25.599 to to film each episode you know unless there 00:20:25.599 --> 00:20:29.099 was overtime but and then it took six weeks for 00:20:29.099 --> 00:20:31.950 post post -production. So then they were adding 00:20:31.950 --> 00:20:35.529 all the stuff with the aliens and the backgrounds 00:20:35.529 --> 00:20:37.789 and the different planets and all that kind of 00:20:37.789 --> 00:20:40.349 stuff. So it's been going on for a long, long 00:20:40.349 --> 00:20:43.910 time. So the video, I was thinking, and it was 00:20:43.910 --> 00:20:45.910 Michael who said, let's just do a natural one 00:20:45.910 --> 00:20:50.650 of us in the studio with you, not necessarily 00:20:50.650 --> 00:20:54.609 sing, but you'll sing it. But I'm going to shoot 00:20:54.609 --> 00:20:57.390 it from different angles, blah, blah, blah. And 00:20:57.390 --> 00:21:01.230 then we're going to splice it with all the stuff 00:21:01.230 --> 00:21:04.609 from different videos that you had done in the 00:21:04.609 --> 00:21:09.710 past of the hits. So that's how that came about. 00:21:10.130 --> 00:21:12.869 It's great to be honest with you. It's great, 00:21:12.869 --> 00:21:16.230 but simple to the extreme, to the extent where 00:21:16.230 --> 00:21:19.329 there's a very young Eden Kane on the screen 00:21:19.329 --> 00:21:21.410 and then it just... Yeah, and then there's the 00:21:21.410 --> 00:21:24.329 other guy. I love it. Just the way it filters 00:21:24.329 --> 00:21:27.329 through. There you are. having the ball in it 00:21:27.329 --> 00:21:30.609 you you're naturally oh yeah you know i'm saying 00:21:30.609 --> 00:21:33.630 you know i said it's it's a kind of a disbelief 00:21:33.630 --> 00:21:36.109 in a way where you're going out i'm you know 00:21:36.109 --> 00:21:39.789 i'm back doing something that i did you know 00:21:39.789 --> 00:21:43.549 when i was 20 years old 21 years old i mean wow 00:21:43.549 --> 00:21:48.869 um and um i'm very happy to you know it's the 00:21:48.869 --> 00:21:51.319 old saying i'm very happy to be here yeah this 00:21:51.319 --> 00:21:53.740 is nick and sue with chatterbox giving you all 00:21:53.740 --> 00:21:56.039 you need to know about musical entertainment 00:21:56.039 --> 00:22:01.900 oh yeah chatterbox chatterbox chatterbox because 00:22:01.900 --> 00:22:03.720 like i said i've been following and waiting for 00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:05.420 this release for let's say within the last couple 00:22:05.420 --> 00:22:07.799 of years uh it must be that long we were talking 00:22:07.799 --> 00:22:09.900 to graham and people do they don't know might 00:22:09.900 --> 00:22:12.380 not know who graham is where he basically uh 00:22:12.380 --> 00:22:14.319 puts your tours together in the uk basically 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:17.630 the 60s things Basically, in that case, people 00:22:17.630 --> 00:22:19.690 didn't actually quite. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Graham 00:22:19.690 --> 00:22:24.369 is a is a is a mover and a shaker. And I call 00:22:24.369 --> 00:22:27.529 him my supervisor. But he's very, very good. 00:22:28.089 --> 00:22:30.869 He's excellent. I remember seeing Graham way, 00:22:30.950 --> 00:22:33.369 way back in the day. I'm in L .A. at this little 00:22:33.369 --> 00:22:37.670 club that I'm that I I used to work at three 00:22:37.670 --> 00:22:40.130 or four days. It's more like a pub. I call it 00:22:40.130 --> 00:22:45.599 a club. It's a pub. And and with lives. you know, 00:22:45.640 --> 00:22:47.759 and I happened to be in the band and one day 00:22:47.759 --> 00:22:52.619 I'm singing away and through the door comes Graham 00:22:52.619 --> 00:22:58.740 with Gordon Mills and oh, I said, is that Gordon 00:22:58.740 --> 00:23:04.460 Mills? So Graham says, hey Rick, we've come to 00:23:04.460 --> 00:23:07.700 have a look and just check in with you. And if 00:23:07.700 --> 00:23:09.799 you don't know, you know who Gordon Mills was 00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:14.190 the manager. He was also in a group. that was 00:23:14.190 --> 00:23:16.509 managed by my management company. What the hell 00:23:16.509 --> 00:23:20.430 is the name? But, but also, um, he then became 00:23:20.430 --> 00:23:23.170 the manager of Tom Jones and Engelbert Humperney. 00:23:23.569 --> 00:23:26.849 So, uh, unfortunately he is no longer with us, 00:23:26.910 --> 00:23:28.950 but what a lovely guy. Just absolutely lovely 00:23:28.950 --> 00:23:30.670 guy. And he came to the club. Another time Graham 00:23:30.670 --> 00:23:33.250 shows up, then he's, then he's gone for a couple 00:23:33.250 --> 00:23:36.569 of weeks. Next day, like about, I'd say a year 00:23:36.569 --> 00:23:40.349 or so later, in comes Graham with PJ Proby into 00:23:40.349 --> 00:23:46.009 the club. Oh my God. Where are you getting these 00:23:46.009 --> 00:23:50.430 people? Looking at Jim, I go, Jim, what the hell 00:23:50.430 --> 00:23:52.390 are you doing here? Thanks for coming. And he 00:23:52.390 --> 00:23:54.750 got up and sang a song, killed him, as he does. 00:23:55.029 --> 00:23:59.569 Incredible voice. And we had a nice chat. I'd 00:23:59.569 --> 00:24:05.890 also toured with Jim, PJ, in Australia, New Zealand. 00:24:07.490 --> 00:24:10.890 Oh, we got that. And obviously, thanks to Zoom. 00:24:11.690 --> 00:24:14.880 Yeah. Talk to people like me at weird hours and 00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:17.000 enjoy the sunshine still. And it's pretty good 00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:21.019 for everyone. In the days of Tottenham Pops and 00:24:21.019 --> 00:24:22.680 you were there one day, then you had to go to 00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:25.279 Granada Studios and it was just all those miles. 00:24:25.339 --> 00:24:27.299 You could just sit at home and we get really 00:24:27.299 --> 00:24:31.960 good sound quality as well. Yeah, I know. It's 00:24:31.960 --> 00:24:34.720 incredible, you know, the advances that have 00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:37.599 been made, you know. Well, yeah, absolutely. 00:24:38.920 --> 00:24:41.319 told you that I go back to BBC local radio in 00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:43.599 the ages and I told you and it was purely people 00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:45.759 you might have them on the phone on a landline, 00:24:46.059 --> 00:24:48.859 no mobiles then of course, or they'd have to 00:24:48.859 --> 00:24:52.180 travel miles and miles and miles to speech in 00:24:52.180 --> 00:24:55.480 a studio. That's what it was. Oh, that's right. 00:24:55.880 --> 00:24:58.400 Absolutely. And it was like a one on one thing. 00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:01.819 Now it's all it on the internet or as you say, 00:25:01.980 --> 00:25:04.390 zoom calls and stuff like that. Yeah. So you're 00:25:04.390 --> 00:25:06.470 talking to people like myself, of course. So 00:25:06.470 --> 00:25:09.549 what else is being planned to coincide with this 00:25:09.549 --> 00:25:11.930 release? I mean, can we expect to this autumn 00:25:11.930 --> 00:25:14.529 or what's going on? Well, I don't know. Not this 00:25:14.529 --> 00:25:17.789 autumn. You know, these things take, you know, 00:25:17.849 --> 00:25:23.529 take time and also you've got to get the right 00:25:23.529 --> 00:25:25.630 venue, the right, you know, offer in the right 00:25:25.630 --> 00:25:28.289 situation, you know. And so if there's a call 00:25:28.289 --> 00:25:30.670 for it, I would love to do it. You know, if someone 00:25:30.670 --> 00:25:34.000 says, hey, Why don't we do a few dates or something 00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:37.960 like that? I'd be happy to do that. But in the 00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:43.660 meantime, I'm, you know, I'm just very, very 00:25:43.660 --> 00:25:47.880 glad that I'm able to do another, you know, have 00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:52.140 another round. Brilliant. I do love the song. 00:25:52.539 --> 00:25:55.279 I really do. Thank you. Are there any other songs 00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:57.500 in the can? Because now you're writing songs. 00:25:57.660 --> 00:26:01.140 I mean, you don't just write one song. Yes, there's 00:26:01.140 --> 00:26:05.359 another one. that I'm going to do. It's a follow 00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:08.660 up. And as they say in the old days, you've got 00:26:08.660 --> 00:26:11.480 to have a follow up. And so I've got one and 00:26:11.480 --> 00:26:15.680 I'm going to go and see Michael and we'll go 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:17.440 on the shooting. This one won't, it won't take 00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:20.160 that long to do, but so I'll have another one 00:26:20.160 --> 00:26:23.759 ready soon. Brilliant. Looking forward to that 00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:27.150 as well. And I would be pushy and say, How about 00:26:27.150 --> 00:26:28.990 an album but we're we're talking about the second 00:26:28.990 --> 00:26:30.650 single when it comes and we're worried about 00:26:30.650 --> 00:26:34.269 yeah, right Yeah, look at some social media for 00:26:34.269 --> 00:26:39.369 you. I found edencain .com Eden which is a website. 00:26:39.710 --> 00:26:42.690 Yeah Uh, yeah edencain .com here tells people 00:26:42.690 --> 00:26:44.549 I think all that they need to know a little bit 00:26:44.549 --> 00:26:48.400 on the on your brothers as well. Uh Yeah, this 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:51.099 is pretty good website, actually. So it looks 00:26:51.099 --> 00:26:53.319 like other links are there as well for social 00:26:53.319 --> 00:26:55.680 media. Right. Yeah, it's looking good. Yeah, 00:26:55.859 --> 00:27:02.420 absolutely. That's it's EdenKane .com is my official 00:27:02.420 --> 00:27:05.380 website. And and that's where you could find 00:27:05.380 --> 00:27:07.859 and you could vote and stuff, stuff like that, 00:27:07.859 --> 00:27:11.079 you know, so which is good. Yeah, new video favorites. 00:27:11.180 --> 00:27:13.900 Yeah, so that everything that everything people 00:27:13.900 --> 00:27:17.940 need is their EdenKane .com. Yeah. Right, well, 00:27:17.940 --> 00:27:20.440 I would love to chat to you about the new song 00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:23.059 as well, when it comes. The new new song, the 00:27:23.059 --> 00:27:25.839 follow up, the follow up, sorry. Yeah, right. 00:27:26.019 --> 00:27:30.339 Oh, absolutely. Sure. Yeah. Aidan, you're looking 00:27:30.339 --> 00:27:32.099 great. You're looking great. I don't know what 00:27:32.099 --> 00:27:33.859 you're doing, but you need to bring out a book. 00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:35.960 We'll talk about autobiographies next time, maybe, 00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:39.640 and a book. You look so good. Seriously, you're 00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:41.440 looking good. So just keep doing whatever it 00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:44.980 is. Thank you. Thank you so much, Nick. I really 00:27:44.980 --> 00:27:49.579 appreciate you. giving me a call that'd be fantastic. 00:27:49.740 --> 00:27:51.299 Hopefully you're good with it and I know the 00:27:51.299 --> 00:27:54.039 guys at home are going to enjoy the interview 00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:57.119 as well and Eden Kane thank you so much for coming 00:27:57.119 --> 00:28:00.099 on Chatterbox UK. My pleasure and thank you. 00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:33.799 Thank you sir, bye bye. Take care, bye bye. This 00:28:33.799 --> 00:28:37.160 edition of the Chatterbox Redux podcast was presented 00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:40.240 by Nick. I thank my special guest who was Eden 00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:46.180 Kane. Email address is nickelbum at myyahoo .com. 00:28:46.380 --> 00:28:49.779 Alternatively, we have a mailing address which 00:28:49.779 --> 00:28:53.900 is P .O. 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