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Welcome to this curated educational transcript of the Joe Rogan Experience. In this session, we examine the critical perspectives and historical dialogues presented in Episode #1527. Our goal is to provide a searchable, high-fidelity research resource for students of cultural history, technology, and global discourse. This transcript has been specifically optimized for academic reference, linguistic study, and archival preservation regarding Human Endurance, Physiological Limits, and the Psychology of Performance. This is a great collection. Yeah, these are all

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from Plasticel. Look, even the sunglasses come

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off on Biggie. Wow. Yeah, it's pretty dope. We

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got John Wick. John Wick and his pitbull. Richard

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Pryor. This is awesome. Yeah, I got Kanye, Bruce

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Lee. But the glasses on Biggie is amazing. I

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know. Well, this guy's amazing. Shout out to

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Fong from Plasticel. He makes some dope shit.

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Yeah, he's amazing. Not as amazing as that shit

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you did in the green room, man. David just did

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some card wizardry. It's one thing that when

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you see that shit on TV, you're like, if I was

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there, I'd see some shit. I'd know what's going

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on. But when you see it in real life, you're

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like, what is happening here? It's way better

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in person. Oh, yeah. Well, at the end, I don't

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want to give anything away, but at the end...

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Literally, a man is holding one of his wrists,

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and another guy's holding the other wrist, and

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he still does the card trick, and we still can't

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figure out what happened. When did you get started?

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How old were you? I was about five years old

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when I started playing with cards, but I didn't

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know what they were for, really. So I just had

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a deck of cards that I carried everywhere. But

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I liked the way it felt, you know, just like

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it felt like something cool. So eventually a

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librarian was like, oh, we got this like magic

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self -working card trick book. And do you want

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to learn something? And I was like, yeah, of

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course. And she shows me that silly self -working

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mathematical trick. That's a long process to

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do, but it's still a cool outcome. Like, oh,

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I found your card. And my mother, I used to wait

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for her at the library, and she'd come get me

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when she was done. And when she came, I said,

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can I show you this trick? And the librarian

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was excited for me to do it to her, which is

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what I do to my... friends, kids, and I teach

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them a trick and make them really good at it.

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And then I'm so excited to see them do it, you

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know? Right. Okay. So my mother comes and I do

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the trick and my mom goes crazy. Like it was

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the best thing ever. And so like, but that began

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the love of wanting to learn new tricks because

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I wanted to keep making her, you know, react,

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you know, happy or whatever. So that was basically

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the fundamental start of it. And then also she

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would take me to Coney Island all the time. And

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on the boardwalk there, there's those weird freak

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show performers. So I'd watch those guys. And

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to me, it was all like magical. So that was kind

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of the beginning of it. So isn't it funny how

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one positive experience when you're young can

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ignite this chain of events? Yeah, that changes

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your whole life. By the way, and also, so then

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the librarian, when I would come. She would give

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me books and I would start looking at that little

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magic section that was between like games and

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puzzles. I thought I always wished magic would

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be like not there. Like it should be like an

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art or so, you know, just it was always like

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when you want a magic book, it's always like

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that silly like kids jokey thing. But there's

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like so in that section, I pulled out a book

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and I was like six years old and I see a guy

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chained to the side of a building staring out

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looking like. Death is upon him. And that was

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Houdini. And I didn't know anything about what

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that all meant. I looked through the pictures

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and he was hanging upside down and stuff like

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that. But when I went to sleep, I would have

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these dreams of this guy chained to the side

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of a building. And that began my curiosity and

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love of Houdini. And then that began my curiosity

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of like, not just like the magic trick stuff,

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but like this stuff. That's to me, it's more

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like. Yeah, how do those two worlds collide?

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Because some of the things you're doing, they're

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just insane endurance and mental exercises. And

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then other things you're doing are what you would

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consider magic. Right. So so I love both separately,

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like independently. Like I always love like I

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had a karate teacher at the YMCA that used to

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make us all run barefoot in the snow in the winter

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in Brooklyn. And all the kids, you know, we're

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young. We're like six, seven, all the kids like,

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you know, and afraid they were going to cut their

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feet on glass or whatever. And I would run in

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it. And I felt like I could do this because I

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wasn't good at other things physically. Like

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I was more at my feet turned in and stuff like

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that. So I felt like this, I could do these things.

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So then I learned how to hold my breath. And

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the reason I learned to hold my breath was simply

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because I was on the swim team at the Y also.

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And the other kids would swim back and forth

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and they'd destroy me because my feet didn't

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function perfectly well. And what I learned is

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that if I didn't breathe, if I just swam, it

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would save me time because I didn't have to move

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my head, dip it out. And, you know, right. So

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I would just swim and the coach would gallop

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me. But suddenly I was no longer in last place.

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I was like now second and sometimes first. And

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that began my like, oh, God, you can actually.

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do what the coach doesn't think is possible.

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You could swim there and back without breathing.

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And then the older kids would come to see me

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do that. And I would like challenge them. I'd

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be like, Let's say you could stay under the longest

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and you can go up and down five times. I didn't

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understand the physiology of it that like going

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up and down doesn't help. It's more effective

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to just sit through the pain and just kind of

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chill. But I would just sit there and they'd

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go up and come back down, which makes it worse

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that they'd be out. Why does it make it worse?

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Because the breath holding thing is all about

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like a CO2 buildup in your bloodstream and it's

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about a tolerance level to it. So if you relax

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and efficiently keep your oxygen and not make

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this CO2 buildup. more extreme, you can actually

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hold more efficiently. So when you have that

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feeling, everybody has that feeling where you

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need to breathe. It's not an O2 deprivation.

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It's a trigger from a CO2 buildup, which is giving

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you an alert that, for example, in 20 minutes

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from now, you will not recover. And I didn't

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believe that either. A magician friend of mine

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who's amazing and one of my heroes in life, he...

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He told me a story as I was doing Buried Alive.

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He said, you know, the Navy SEALs, they black

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them out underwater so they're not afraid of

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drowning. And I'm like, that can't, no way. Because

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it seems so abstract to me. But it stuck in my

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brain. And then when I wanted to do the water

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tank stunt and I started learning about freediving

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and stuff like that, I suddenly... realize blacking

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out is pretty straightforward. Like you black

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out and then you get your head above the water.

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And if you're supervised, you're fine. So when

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I went to San Diego with the seals, I watched

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what they do and I actually did it, but I didn't

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black out. I went back and forth a few times

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in pool, but they have that viewing pool and

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they rope the seals up to some 45 pound weights

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and they have to walk across the bottom of the

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pool and the instructors are swimming above them.

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When the seals black out, they cut the rope,

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bring them up to the top, and they're fine. But

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what that teaches you is that you do not need

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to worry about being underwater because if you're

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with a team and you – but by the way, nobody

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should try this. There is extreme dangers to

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shallow water blackouts, which lead to death.

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But if you are in – somebody that's training

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and you have a team and you want to push it as

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soon as you black out it's like getting knocked

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out it's but it feels better it's not like getting

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knocked out with a punch it's like you get knocked

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it's euphoric no but no yeah but choked out of

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euphoric right yeah exactly except this one's

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even better and then you have all these dreams

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no it no you make it sound exciting that part

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of it when whenever i wake up from a blackout

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i'm like Whoa. That's how people wake up when

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they get choked out. Really? The same? Yeah.

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When people get choked out, they wake up almost

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like they were dreaming. Like sometimes they

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think they're at a disco. Yeah. Yeah. It's amazing.

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They're like, what? Yeah. Oh, wow. And it's not

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the best thing in the world for you, but it's

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way better for you than getting knocked unconscious.

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Yeah. Yeah. Choked out is just a just shuts off

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the blood to the brain. Right. And the brain

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shuts off. Yeah. And then it comes back online.

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But there's no trauma. Right. Yeah. But it's

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not. Yeah. So it's like a blacking out underwater.

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Blacking out underwater thing. Probably not a

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good idea to do too many times, though. Right.

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No, you could do it. I mean, I've blacked out

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underwater a lot. By the way. So how many times?

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I don't know. Like between. 20 to 30 I mean oh

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wow by the way you guys were talking about me

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on the thing about the breath hold thing yeah

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so yeah one time I went 20 minutes and two seconds

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so I almost did what you were talking about the

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length of a show but I did 20 minutes and two

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seconds and I had telemetry there and I had pulmonary

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experts and everything like that and my heart

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rate dropped to eight beats per minute holy shit

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and they pulled me up because they were freaked

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out they thought you were dying yeah but back

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to what I was saying is the reason besides the

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Navy SEAL story that I knew that it was it made

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sense was because you hear about the kids in

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the news like in 1984 or whatever it was a kid

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was under an icy river for 45 minutes yeah with

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nothing blacked out unconscious underwater for

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45 minutes they rescue him out pull him back

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recover him and full recovery So there's something

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that the body does that we don't understand.

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But if you actualize, so because he blacked out

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and because it was so cold, the blood shunting

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occurred were all like the same as when you get

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cold. The blood rushes away from the extremities

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and protects the vital organs. And because he

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didn't inhale the water because he was completely

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out of it, when they recovered him, they didn't

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even have to get water out of his lungs and he

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was perfectly fine. Wow. So, but that just shows

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you that there's like certain levels of. of what

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the body can tolerate that we have no idea. So

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you in, in learning how to swim and learning

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how to go all the way back and forth and holding

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your breath, this started this idea of holding

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your breath for an extreme long period of time.

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Like what had been the record before you had

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like 20 minutes and how many seconds, two seconds.

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That's what you did. Yeah. But what had you done

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before that? What had been your record? Okay.

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So when I was a kid, I heard as I start reading

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about Houdini has like, proud record of his lifetime

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and he's the underwater escape king for a hundred

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years ago and he had he was around the best swimmers

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and he had access to and he got up to three and

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a half minutes so by the time i was like a teenage

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early teenager i got to three and a half minutes

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and did you think that that was a barrier that

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couldn't be crossed well i came i blacked out

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as i came out but i didn't know what that all

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meant right so i blacked out was that So I was

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like, OK, that 330 seems like the edge. But then

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when I started working on the actual concept

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of like, how long can you hold your breath for?

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Then I started looking into and I'm like, oh,

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wow, there's like people that can do five minutes,

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six minutes, seven minutes. And then there was

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a hypothetical record of of a hypothetical. 13

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minute record but no evidence of it and that

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was on pure O2 so it was a hypothetical pure

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O2 record of 13 when you say on pure O2 what's

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the process that flushes everything out so you

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start pure O2 you hold on to pure O2 and then

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you go under I purge really hard on pure O2 so

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which is like hypervent which gets rid of the

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CO2 and gives you more room for oxygen and by

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the way I just went up to 25 ,000 feet in an

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airplane ascending at 500 feet per minute doors

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open and everything, no oxygen. And I was with

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Luke Akins who jumped from 25 ,000 feet with

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no parachute landing in that. He was with me

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and two other, the pilot and two other guys.

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We just right under 25, it was a 24, seven, whatever.

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And, um, he's, I said, let's see who goes hypoxic

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first. Right. So no, no, no, but we have, no,

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but you have to take the, the O2, you have to

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take the O2 monitors. You have to be on them.

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Right. So. And I was already in a hypobaric chamber

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with the FAA at Oklahoma City. And I started

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purging just to see what it would do. And my

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levels, my oxygen levels shot up, which nobody

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believes is possible. So I get into the airplane

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and we put the monitors on and everybody's around

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the same. I was actually lower than Luke. I was

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like at 90, whatever, 5, 96. He was at like 97.

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He's like, oh, I'm winning. You know, joking

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with me. And as soon as we crossed 15 ,000 feet.

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His slowly is starting to come down, and I start

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doing the breathing technique, the purging out,

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like I said, right? My oxygen levels, and we

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filmed all this, shot up to 98 % and then 99

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% as I went up to 23 ,000 plus feet. Now, these

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guys think I'm a magician, so they're like, yeah,

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uh -huh, like fake news. That's what he wrote

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on the paper next to the levels because he was

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recording it. I took his monitor off of his finger

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and he took mine. I put his monitor on my finger,

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put mine on his, bang, his was dropping around

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70 and mine was 98, 99. Then I switched with

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everybody on the plane and the oxygen levels

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with the breathing all the way up to that altitude.

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And I'm not recommending this because I haven't

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tested enough, but they did stay up at 98, 99.

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You hear about all the Sherpas that go up to

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the top of Everest, up to 29 ,000 feet, and they're

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not bringing oxygen. I get it. They're acclimating,

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but they're still at 29 ,000 plus feet. So they're

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doing something that's allowing them to rewire

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their ability to not go hypoxic. So this breathing

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technique, you're essentially exhaling more than

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you're breathing in. So you're breathing a small

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amount in. And then I fill up everything for

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full, but I mean full, like top to bottom, hold

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for a second and then exhale slowly. And I like,

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for example, if when we're done here, if you

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have 20 minutes, I'll get you up to a four and

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a half minute breath hold in 20 minutes. And

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this is just through these breathing techniques.

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Yeah. When we're done with this, I'll show you

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how to do it. And you will get up to four plus

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minutes for sure. And how did you, so you've.

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learned that you could go three and a half minutes

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or three minutes plus, right? And blackout. And

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then how did you have it in your head? that you

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were going to eventually get to 20 minutes. Okay,

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so you really want to hear all that? Yeah, yeah,

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yeah. It's a long... Okay, let's go. Okay, and

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I forget where I'm going sometimes. Okay, that's

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okay. Don't worry about it. Okay, so you might

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have to remind me where we're going. Yeah. Okay.

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I just want to know the process because you're

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a magician by trade, right? Well, but first of

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all, I like Houdini. So I love magic, but I like

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Houdini, and Houdini was like king of cards as

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well, but he's a guy that's doing real things.

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Right. And then I like guys that are like, as

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I go to the Museum of Broadcasting, because there

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was no YouTube. or whatever so I'd look at like

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these magic you search magic and I'd find like

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guys that would like drink a gallon of water

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drink a liter of kerosene he would float all

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the kerosene on top of the water and then he

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would spit out kerosene out of his mouth look

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like a human dragon and then put the fire out

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with a gallon of water so it's that it is magic

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but it's it's art it's mind blowing it's an art

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it's a performance it's not like it's incredible

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now look there's guys that are card guys that

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are like that also like lots lots of people i

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love them they do the cards in a way that's like

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but but that act to me was what pressed a button

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it was like whoa like how is he converting his

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body to do a trick and there's a guy today performing

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called stevie starr who's called the human regurgitator

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but he swallows crazy things like So he combines

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magic with his ability. So he went on Jay Leno.

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Yeah, I think it was Leno or Carson. He takes,

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you know, the little film canisters that you

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used to drink. So he puts a film canister empty,

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closes it for the, you know, you get the 35.

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And then he goes, and then he swallows it. So

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it's in. Yeah, it's gone. He goes like that.

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It's gone. Then he would take a bunch of water,

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drink that, and then there'd be a cup with a

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goldfish in it. drinks the cup and the goldfish,

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and then you have Jay Leno sign the cap, the

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lid thing to the thing with a piece of tape and

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sign it, right? Then he'd take that and go, now

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everything is gone. Then he does these weird

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sounds and movements, which is part of his show,

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right? And then he brings it up, spits it out,

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and the film canister is sealed, and in it is

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the water and the fish, and it's sealed with

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the signature. So to me, that's like... the coolest

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magic because your take because when you see

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a trick you know like oh that's cool but it's

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a trick so it's like you're being removed from

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being able to like absorb but when you see something

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where somebody's doing something crazy and it

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seems like a trick but it's also like wait this

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is real because he's really doing this it's just

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way more exciting you know i understand i understand

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it's just do you know how he did that one obviously

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yeah i talked to him all the time Yeah, I love

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Stevie Star. You know how it was done, but you

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can't reveal that, right? Yeah, and okay, there's

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another guy, Tom Mullica, who he passed away,

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and he was this guy. He's the first magician

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I ever saw. He did a simple card trick, and I

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was crying. I was like in tears. I was like,

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oh, my God. But and he passed away and I filmed

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that. And he's I'm going to do a really amazing

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piece about him because he is incredible. But

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he also was on like Johnny Carson shows. What

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he would do is he would take a pack of cigarettes,

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throw them into his mouth one at a time, light

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them on fire, bring them back out and then throw

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them into his mouth one at a time. Eat all the

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cigarettes. Yes. There he is. And watch, he eats

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the cigarettes. Wow, that's great how fast they

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pulled that up. It's not they, it's young Jamie.

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Oh, it's you? He's a wizard. Yeah. He's a wizard

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of his own right. By the way, the sack killed

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him, so that's how dedicated to his craft he

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is. Did it really? Yeah, look, he was eating

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a pack of cigarettes every night on stage. So

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he swallows them and then he lights more. Yeah,

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but wait, he also throws them into his mouth.

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Oh, my God. So now he's chewing them. What? What

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is he chewing? He's just amazing. I get to where

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he's throwing them into his mouth, too. Oh, boy.

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Yes, he throws them into his mouth one at a time.

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They're lit. He chews them up, swallows them.

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His mouth is empty. Look at the lady. She's like,

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what the fuck am I doing here? Oh, my God. Look

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at that stack in his mouth. And then, look, the

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whole thing goes in. By the way, he also throws

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them one at a time, does all that, puts the paper

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in. Oh, Jesus Christ. And swallows it all. That's

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it. Oh, my God. Yep. He's so amazing. So how

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did this kill him? Every single night. Just cancer?

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20 shows a night at a bar doing cigarettes in

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your mouth on fire, eating them, swallowing them.

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Right. But what did he die from? Cancer? Yeah.

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Yeah. Boy. Yeah. But wait. So he spits them out?

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Eventually? Or he just swallows them? I'm not

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going to give away his genius. Right, but in

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the video, do they ever come out? No, no, no,

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they're gone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, that's the

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thing. It's like, I guess... But this is a guy

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that died for his art, legitimately. Yeah, legitimately.

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Yeah. Wow. So another, the guy I was telling

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you about, that's like my favorite card magician,

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the guy that taught, that showed me the Navy

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SEAL, but just an amazing magician, has a library.

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He's like this genius that if he came here, which

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he never would, because he would never show anybody

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anything. But if he did, and he showed you a

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couple of moves, like the first move he showed

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me was actually a card move called Ascension,

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where he makes the card float right through the

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deck. And like the greatest magician of all time,

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the card magician said it was one of the greatest

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tricks ever done. be able to find it anywhere

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because it's not a video but he um he only does

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it to a couple of magicians so he performs for

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like you know a handful of his friends he shows

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a move and it's mind -blowing and luckily he

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showed me stuff when I was young but he'll never

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ever perform he's like does a painter paint so

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he can show people it does a painter paint to

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paint but whenever you're on the phone with him

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you just hear cards like he's like No, and he's

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doing it. He's doing, I'm telling you, like 13

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hours a day he's doing card moves alone. And

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I said, I was like, Bill, what do you do? Do

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you like do the trick to yourself and be like,

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ah, how did I do that? You know what I mean?

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But he doesn't believe that it's not to him.

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It's not a performance. To him, it's just about

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the technical love and feel of that. Well, that's

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not, there's a Japanese phrase for that about

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doing something. Over and over and over and over

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the exact same thing over and over again to achieve

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a level of perfection that is almost physically

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unattainable to mere mortals you Bypass what

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a person thinks the the body would be capable

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of doing. Yep. Yeah, that's that's it That's

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what he's doing. That is the thing like if you

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can either you know, James Nestor is Yeah, of

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course. He wrote the book Deep. Yes. Yeah, Deep

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is amazing. I don't know Deep, but I've read

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Breath. That's a book he wrote, Deep. Yeah. Breath

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is the one that I read, and I had him on the

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podcast to talk about it. He's amazing. I was

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talking about this monk that was literally meditating

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and doing breathing exercises all day long for

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30 years and could do these insane things with

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his body, like vary the temperature from one

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hand to another, change the blood flow, change

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it literally from one finger to the other. For

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sure. The only way you could get to that place

00:22:02.779 --> 00:22:05.079
is you have to be that guy who sits in a cave

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and does breath work all day long for 30 years,

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and most people just aren't willing to do that.

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But if you do do that, there are some levels

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that you can reach that are just unattainable

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to a normal person. If you would talk to scientists

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and doctors. No, but it is attainable to normal

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people because when somebody gets paralyzed or

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something, right? I've seen people that the doctors

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say, you're done. You have no shot. And they

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spend all day of every single waking moment trying

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to get like a little moment, just like a tiny

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bit of movement in their little toe. And eventually

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if they do what you're saying, if you, so it

00:22:42.579 --> 00:22:46.279
is that. Yeah, it is that it's, but most people

00:22:46.279 --> 00:22:49.900
are not willing to get to that place. Most people

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are not going to sit there shuffling cards 13

00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:53.599
hours a day like your friend. Yeah. But there's

00:22:53.599 --> 00:22:56.339
people that can do that. Like when I was watching

00:22:56.339 --> 00:22:58.500
you move the cards around, it's interesting.

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Like you ever watch a movie where a guy's smoking

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a cigarette? You know, that guy doesn't really

00:23:02.019 --> 00:23:04.259
smoke. You can kind of tell. By the way, he's

00:23:04.259 --> 00:23:06.180
holding the cigarette. It just feels odd. That's

00:23:06.180 --> 00:23:09.380
good. You're moving these cards around like you're

00:23:09.380 --> 00:23:12.640
edge detection, like you're understanding of

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where the edge. It's very interesting to watch

00:23:14.839 --> 00:23:17.940
your fingers move because they're so educated.

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All the commentary that I do with martial arts

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and my years in martial arts, I'm fascinated

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by how different people move and they do the

00:23:29.240 --> 00:23:32.380
same thing. It looks different when other people

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do it. There's certain people that will throw

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a punch and you just walk out of there and you

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go, Jesus. There's something about the fluidity

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of the motion that's stunning even to this day.

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And when I was watching you move your fingers

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and watching you move the cards, I was like,

00:23:46.640 --> 00:23:48.740
this motherfucker has shuffled a lot of cards.

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There's a weirdness to the movement of your hands.

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But I think it's what you're saying. It's like

00:23:53.640 --> 00:23:55.980
the punch thing. It's like there's – Yeah, but

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it is – but it's – the mind forces the body into

00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:07.019
moving over and over and over again. You do it

00:24:07.019 --> 00:24:12.019
to this level of perfection. For a person like

00:24:12.019 --> 00:24:14.019
me who doesn't know anything about cards, I don't

00:24:14.019 --> 00:24:15.500
know anything about card tricks. I don't know

00:24:15.500 --> 00:24:17.359
how they work. I can't shuffle. If you watch

00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:20.119
me shuffle, you'd fucking laugh at me. But I

00:24:20.119 --> 00:24:23.220
watch your hand movements. I'm like, oh, this

00:24:23.220 --> 00:24:26.220
is amazing. It's amazing. But now there's guys

00:24:26.220 --> 00:24:28.880
that I'm around that I wouldn't even pull a deck

00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:31.039
of cards out of my pocket if they're near me.

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Because they're that guy that does it 13 hours

00:24:33.400 --> 00:24:36.740
a day. Like the guy just told you about. Isn't

00:24:36.740 --> 00:24:38.960
that fascinating though? Yeah, but there's also

00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:41.680
different aspects to it. So like, you know, there's

00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:47.099
also guys. I'm not going to go into details.

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Okay. But I met, I feel like I shouldn't even

00:24:50.019 --> 00:24:52.599
say this, but it's fine because it's fine. So

00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:58.099
I met a kid once who moved to Las Vegas when

00:24:58.099 --> 00:25:01.559
he was, this is a crazy story to tell. Damn.

00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:05.259
But it's a good story. I won't go into details.

00:25:05.579 --> 00:25:09.740
So he moved to Las Vegas when he was 12. He moved

00:25:09.740 --> 00:25:12.140
there because he wanted to meet a specific person

00:25:12.140 --> 00:25:16.799
who was considered the best card cheat ever.

00:25:17.519 --> 00:25:20.400
Meaning the guy, this is the guy that the reason

00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:24.380
that Vegas has those, instead of like the dealer

00:25:24.380 --> 00:25:28.140
peeking the down card, they have to put it into

00:25:28.140 --> 00:25:31.029
a machine and push a button. He's the guy that

00:25:31.029 --> 00:25:33.490
the movie Casino was built around with the computer

00:25:33.490 --> 00:25:37.630
and the shoe. Like, he was the best card sheet

00:25:37.630 --> 00:25:41.069
ever. But among magicians, he's, like, a phenomenon.

00:25:41.170 --> 00:25:43.390
Because he's working on moves not to entertain

00:25:43.390 --> 00:25:46.730
anybody. He's working on moves so he doesn't

00:25:46.730 --> 00:25:49.910
get his hands smashed up against a wall at Binion's.

00:25:50.630 --> 00:25:53.609
Right? So he's working on moves so he's not going

00:25:53.609 --> 00:25:59.630
to get killed. Survival. Yes. Right. This kid

00:25:59.630 --> 00:26:04.190
at the age of 12 knows about him, moves to Las

00:26:04.190 --> 00:26:09.309
Vegas, and buys a craps table. He puts the craps

00:26:09.309 --> 00:26:12.329
table. It's him and his mom, right? The single

00:26:12.329 --> 00:26:15.329
mother and him. They live in this small apartment

00:26:15.329 --> 00:26:17.950
very close to the man I was telling you about.

00:26:18.230 --> 00:26:23.609
And this kid throws dice 15 hours a day. On this

00:26:23.609 --> 00:26:25.769
craps table. By the way, their little bed is

00:26:25.769 --> 00:26:27.609
like under the table. You know what I mean? It's

00:26:27.609 --> 00:26:30.470
a small space. And it's a real craps table. Like

00:26:30.470 --> 00:26:33.849
a nice one. The only thing he does is repetitiously

00:26:33.849 --> 00:26:37.950
throw. And he can helicopter spin the dice. So

00:26:37.950 --> 00:26:40.269
you can't see them doing this. They have such

00:26:40.269 --> 00:26:42.190
force going around this way that when they hit

00:26:42.190 --> 00:26:45.230
the wall. One die won't break the number. And

00:26:45.230 --> 00:26:48.529
he can throw it exactly to this part of the table,

00:26:48.789 --> 00:26:51.150
missing this from across the table so that one

00:26:51.150 --> 00:26:53.349
die locks and every time he can guarantee that

00:26:53.349 --> 00:26:57.369
number. He did that every day for almost a decade

00:26:57.369 --> 00:26:59.849
until he could throw dice better than any other

00:26:59.849 --> 00:27:03.029
human being in the world. Then he went and got

00:27:03.029 --> 00:27:05.950
a job at one of the casinos that texts for car

00:27:05.950 --> 00:27:09.269
cheats and worked in the craps tables. That's

00:27:09.269 --> 00:27:12.900
all he did. And as soon as he turned 21, He went

00:27:12.900 --> 00:27:16.039
out, travels the world, and wins the exact amount

00:27:16.039 --> 00:27:18.079
of money that he should win playing craps where

00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:21.279
you're not detected, but you can. What is the

00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:24.460
exact amount? I mean, under, you know. Under

00:27:24.460 --> 00:27:26.900
a million? Yeah, probably a few million a year.

00:27:27.019 --> 00:27:29.039
So I'm saying it's not like he's going in and

00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:31.240
getting greedy. It's very smart and structured.

00:27:31.660 --> 00:27:34.440
Yeah, and going to different places. And he can

00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:36.740
throw dice like I've never seen anybody throw

00:27:36.740 --> 00:27:39.640
dice. It's crazy. I know that they take people

00:27:39.640 --> 00:27:41.960
that are really good at cards. Like my friend

00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:44.519
Dana White has been barred from casinos because

00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:46.460
he wins at Blackjack. He's probably just counting.

00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:48.559
I don't know what he's doing. Yeah, he's counting.

00:27:48.819 --> 00:27:50.619
But they've kicked him out of casinos because

00:27:50.619 --> 00:27:52.920
he's won a lot of money. But he's also lost a

00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:54.660
lot of money, which is bizarre to me that you

00:27:54.660 --> 00:27:57.180
can go to a place and do really well, and they're

00:27:57.180 --> 00:27:58.279
like, you're doing too well. You've got to get

00:27:58.279 --> 00:28:00.279
out of here. Well, it says behind every table

00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:02.839
we have the right to refuse anybody, which is

00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:05.559
important. But do they do that with dice is the

00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:07.759
question. Do I get how they would do that with

00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:09.259
cards? Okay, so do you want to hear a dice story?

00:28:09.339 --> 00:28:11.380
But this isn't me doing magic. This is luck.

00:28:11.619 --> 00:28:14.900
Okay. Okay. I don't believe you. It is. I don't

00:28:14.900 --> 00:28:18.960
like the way you paused. But I'm serious. I know,

00:28:19.019 --> 00:28:20.720
but I'm saying that because I'm trying to be

00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:24.279
convincing. Okay. Because I'm telling the truth.

00:28:24.420 --> 00:28:28.720
But anyway, I go to the Palms. Yeah. Okay. And

00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:31.339
they had a bet on the craps table called the

00:28:31.339 --> 00:28:34.700
fire bet. And it was like a game where you have

00:28:34.700 --> 00:28:37.160
to hit all of the numbers open and close without

00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:41.640
but crapping out. And so when I walk up to the

00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:45.619
table, right away, the pit boss and everybody,

00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:47.299
they make a big deal. Like, you can't touch the

00:28:47.299 --> 00:28:49.819
dice. And I said, you can call up. I can touch

00:28:49.819 --> 00:28:52.339
the dice. Because, you know, they invite me.

00:28:52.460 --> 00:28:56.420
So I said, I can touch the dice. Because I wanted

00:28:56.420 --> 00:28:59.880
to throw. I don't want to just gamble on a wrench.

00:29:01.660 --> 00:29:04.019
Because even though I'm not cheating, I still

00:29:04.019 --> 00:29:06.440
feel like, you know, maybe I'll get I have a

00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:09.039
little bit of an ability that's given. You know

00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:11.220
what I mean? Right. Not a cheating ability, but

00:29:11.220 --> 00:29:13.519
maybe I'm a little better than a random person.

00:29:14.140 --> 00:29:18.380
Right. Got it. So. And the pit ball, they make

00:29:18.380 --> 00:29:20.299
a joke. And then the woman pit balls comes out.

00:29:20.339 --> 00:29:22.200
She says, well, if you take your shirt off, we'll

00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:24.539
let you throw the dice. Joking, right? So anyway,

00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:26.980
what I do is I bet for everybody at the table.

00:29:27.019 --> 00:29:29.579
And I go to the low stakes table always. So the

00:29:29.579 --> 00:29:31.599
high stakes table is that Super Bowl team right

00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:33.019
over there. And they're like, ah! They're all

00:29:33.019 --> 00:29:35.339
crazy, right? Like all excited with these big

00:29:35.339 --> 00:29:38.240
bets. I'm here with this table. We all have little

00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:41.259
bets, right? But I say, let's put a fire bet

00:29:41.259 --> 00:29:43.549
down for everybody. So I put the fire bit down

00:29:43.549 --> 00:29:45.789
for every single person at the table, including

00:29:45.789 --> 00:29:49.670
the dealers, I mean the pit bull, you know, with

00:29:49.670 --> 00:29:52.849
the dice. And I'm throwing the dice, throwing

00:29:52.849 --> 00:29:55.730
the dice. And this goes on for two and a half

00:29:55.730 --> 00:29:58.890
hours. I keep throwing the dice. I didn't hit

00:29:58.890 --> 00:30:01.309
a, I didn't crap out. I hit sevens in between

00:30:01.309 --> 00:30:03.269
each number. I don't know how craps work. So

00:30:03.269 --> 00:30:05.970
you have to roll like a five, let's say. And

00:30:05.970 --> 00:30:07.670
then I'm like, oh no, I need to roll another

00:30:07.670 --> 00:30:11.089
five, which is statistically much more difficult

00:30:11.089 --> 00:30:12.990
than a seven because seven is the most common

00:30:12.990 --> 00:30:15.670
number to come up. So if you roll a five, you're

00:30:15.670 --> 00:30:17.690
like, oh, that's hard because you can only get

00:30:17.690 --> 00:30:20.430
a two, three or three, two on both dice or a

00:30:20.430 --> 00:30:23.680
one, four or four, one. So you have a four out

00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:26.420
of 36. So it's a one and nine. So you're probably

00:30:26.420 --> 00:30:28.339
going to crap out before you get the number.

00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:32.839
That's why the game is to their favor. So I'm

00:30:32.839 --> 00:30:35.779
throwing the dice and it's two and a half hours

00:30:35.779 --> 00:30:40.299
later and they stop everything. And they're like,

00:30:40.380 --> 00:30:46.319
your fire bet just hit. And the table goes, what

00:30:46.319 --> 00:30:48.420
does that mean? They go, well, you all just won

00:30:48.420 --> 00:30:52.859
like 10 grand each. And they all go. Everybody's

00:30:52.859 --> 00:30:56.680
going nuts, and we hit the fire bet, which they've

00:30:56.680 --> 00:30:58.940
now removed from the palms, by the way. But it

00:30:58.940 --> 00:31:02.480
was a pretty unheard of, like the odds of hitting

00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:05.799
that bet is pretty rare. But it's just luck.

00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:10.119
Nobody should hit that bet. I mean, statistically,

00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:14.019
it's unlikely, and I wasn't cheating. So, yeah.

00:31:15.299 --> 00:31:19.160
So, do they, but... The question is – I'm lucky

00:31:19.160 --> 00:31:21.960
– for some reason, I'm lucky with dice. Right.

00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:24.480
But I'm not – but I can tell you I would be if

00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:26.140
I was great with dice. I'd tell you I was great

00:31:26.140 --> 00:31:27.799
with dice. By the way, I actually have a die

00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:30.160
on me. Why do you walk around with a die on you?

00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:32.240
I didn't even hear the story for this reason,

00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:34.740
but I do have a die on me. Have you practiced

00:31:34.740 --> 00:31:38.700
with dice? No. Yes, but I'm terrible at it. So

00:31:38.700 --> 00:31:41.680
do I – I do have a die. But it does make sense

00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.039
that if you look at what that is, that that's

00:31:45.039 --> 00:31:48.529
a physical thing. And then if you develop a touch,

00:31:48.630 --> 00:31:50.990
you develop a feel, you do something over and

00:31:50.990 --> 00:31:52.289
over and over again. Well, this is different.

00:31:52.349 --> 00:31:56.630
But here, look. Take the die. Okay. And can you,

00:31:56.630 --> 00:31:59.890
like, put it between your hand or whatever? Okay.

00:32:00.289 --> 00:32:02.670
And can you mix it like that? Uh -huh. And then

00:32:02.670 --> 00:32:04.910
squeeze it when you're done. Or keep it hidden,

00:32:04.970 --> 00:32:06.849
but put it on the table. But make sure you can't

00:32:06.849 --> 00:32:09.339
see it and I can't see it. You agree like no

00:32:09.339 --> 00:32:11.059
one could see that, right? No one could see it.

00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:13.119
Are you sure? 100%. Do you want to do it again?

00:32:13.180 --> 00:32:15.019
Try it again. Just know because it could be weighted.

00:32:15.180 --> 00:32:17.640
Or you're done. You're good? Yeah. You're good?

00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:20.960
Yeah. Okay. Say a number between one and six.

00:32:21.059 --> 00:32:23.460
Like pick a number up to six. Okay. That five

00:32:23.460 --> 00:32:25.740
is what I said on the craps table, right? Yeah.

00:32:25.740 --> 00:32:29.900
But I already know that it's a four. And the

00:32:29.900 --> 00:32:33.400
five is here, basically. How do you know that?

00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:40.019
That's uncomfortable. Can you do that again?

00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:44.779
Probably not. You know what we'll do? But stop

00:32:44.779 --> 00:32:46.240
whenever you want. Yeah, because it could be

00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:48.319
like a weighted die. By the way, that's how people

00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:51.279
cheat with dice is they also take the die and

00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:54.099
they flip it and they want it to be, you know,

00:32:54.099 --> 00:32:56.319
so it's like you throw the numbers. So you said

00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:59.559
you wanted a five, right? Yeah. Good. It's five.

00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:03.059
Get that voodoo away from me, man. The fuck is

00:33:03.059 --> 00:33:09.589
that? That's so weird. That must be a rush for

00:33:09.589 --> 00:33:11.369
you, though, just to blow people's minds like

00:33:11.369 --> 00:33:13.910
that all the time. But see, so it's not, you

00:33:13.910 --> 00:33:15.950
know, I don't think of it. So what happens is

00:33:15.950 --> 00:33:18.349
the digital fixation part of like the love of

00:33:18.349 --> 00:33:20.349
just like learning something new and exciting.

00:33:20.609 --> 00:33:23.589
That's like really the stimulus is like that

00:33:23.589 --> 00:33:26.730
fixation almost. It's like the meditative thing

00:33:26.730 --> 00:33:29.289
that you're talking about. But as a magician

00:33:29.289 --> 00:33:31.829
that is performing and trying to make TV shows,

00:33:31.890 --> 00:33:33.470
it's really difficult because you have to like

00:33:33.470 --> 00:33:36.289
keep coming up with new things, which is. And

00:33:36.289 --> 00:33:40.410
that's hard to do. How did you first get on television?

00:33:40.549 --> 00:33:42.529
How did you convince someone to let you try this

00:33:42.529 --> 00:33:45.269
on television? Well, so back in those days, the

00:33:45.269 --> 00:33:47.349
only magic that you could see, and like I said,

00:33:47.390 --> 00:33:49.970
it was pre, you couldn't go watch it or get it

00:33:49.970 --> 00:33:51.529
or anything. So there's no way to see magic.

00:33:51.630 --> 00:33:53.890
And if you were me with a single mother in Brooklyn

00:33:53.890 --> 00:33:56.670
or whatever, how are you going to go? There's

00:33:56.670 --> 00:33:59.009
no magic show. I never went to a magic show.

00:34:00.130 --> 00:34:03.990
So what happened was. All those World's Greatest

00:34:03.990 --> 00:34:05.809
TV specials were playing, and they were called

00:34:05.809 --> 00:34:07.829
World's Greatest Men, and I would watch them.

00:34:07.890 --> 00:34:09.769
And they were like the opposite of that. They

00:34:09.769 --> 00:34:14.030
were like hard to watch, you know? It was like

00:34:14.030 --> 00:34:17.130
glossy, big, like dynamic, and the illusionist

00:34:17.130 --> 00:34:19.949
is so far away from the whole thing. So I'm like,

00:34:19.989 --> 00:34:22.949
there's nothing magical about all this. And then,

00:34:23.010 --> 00:34:29.630
so, okay, I think about it, and I'm like, I go

00:34:29.630 --> 00:34:32.289
through, so. But I'm doing magic everywhere all

00:34:32.289 --> 00:34:35.010
the time. So one of the ways I'm making money

00:34:35.010 --> 00:34:37.030
is I'm going into those fancy restaurants in

00:34:37.030 --> 00:34:39.190
New York City, like those upper park avenues.

00:34:39.329 --> 00:34:43.849
And I do magic to the manager, to this. And I'm

00:34:43.849 --> 00:34:47.579
like, if... Can I do magic to the table? And

00:34:47.579 --> 00:34:49.199
it's like what I did to you there. Like do the

00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:50.860
magic. Like, oh, that's great. I was like, can

00:34:50.860 --> 00:34:52.559
I do magic to the people eating? And I won't

00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:54.940
ask them for anything. I bought like a nice suit

00:34:54.940 --> 00:34:59.920
at Century 21, like a $100 jacket. Anyways, I

00:34:59.920 --> 00:35:03.980
go up to these tables, and that's a hard situation

00:35:03.980 --> 00:35:07.139
because it's very difficult to approach people

00:35:07.139 --> 00:35:09.800
that do not want you near them and try to figure

00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:12.989
out how to win with magic. And it's like. even

00:35:12.989 --> 00:35:14.769
on the street, wherever you do it, it's like

00:35:14.769 --> 00:35:17.829
a complicated scenario. Once a camera comes up,

00:35:17.829 --> 00:35:19.530
it changes it because now they're like, oh, he

00:35:19.530 --> 00:35:22.090
has a camera. It's fine, right? But you'd have

00:35:22.090 --> 00:35:25.190
to walk up to a table of a bunch like us. We're

00:35:25.190 --> 00:35:27.730
sitting there and some like, you know, sketchy

00:35:27.730 --> 00:35:30.829
magician kid comes up to us like, hey, can I

00:35:30.829 --> 00:35:32.590
show you a card trick? And you and I are going

00:35:32.590 --> 00:35:34.670
to be like nice to him probably, but not really

00:35:34.670 --> 00:35:37.889
want him around. So what I had to learn quickly

00:35:37.889 --> 00:35:40.030
was like little things that are so important.

00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:43.360
Like distance, like how close should you be to

00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:46.360
the table or how far? And then you start to really

00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:49.059
understand the psychology of the magic is way

00:35:49.059 --> 00:35:51.400
more important than the tricks, right? So if

00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:54.550
you're too close, you're like. They don't want

00:35:54.550 --> 00:35:57.369
you near them. So you're like, they're like,

00:35:57.550 --> 00:35:59.690
no, thank you. If you're too far away, it's easy

00:35:59.690 --> 00:36:02.110
for them to say no, thank you. Right. So there's

00:36:02.110 --> 00:36:04.789
like a balancing point just on where you stand

00:36:04.789 --> 00:36:07.250
and then who you do the first trick to and then

00:36:07.250 --> 00:36:09.489
what the first trick is. And so by doing all

00:36:09.489 --> 00:36:11.650
of this, I started to really figure out how to

00:36:11.650 --> 00:36:14.449
get reactions from anybody really fast. So I

00:36:14.449 --> 00:36:18.369
could walk up to anybody. anywhere and just do

00:36:18.369 --> 00:36:20.789
magic like one time I was in Central Booking

00:36:20.789 --> 00:36:22.190
because I jumped the subway thing and they were

00:36:22.190 --> 00:36:26.409
sweeping everybody up and there was four guys

00:36:26.409 --> 00:36:28.710
sitting in the middle playing spades the only

00:36:28.710 --> 00:36:30.989
other like kid that looked like me that was in

00:36:30.989 --> 00:36:33.170
there got the shit kicked out of him right and

00:36:33.170 --> 00:36:35.469
I'm like I'm gonna get my ass kicked right because

00:36:35.469 --> 00:36:37.809
I was with a button -up shirt like you know anyway

00:36:37.809 --> 00:36:41.190
so The guys are sitting in the middle that were

00:36:41.190 --> 00:36:43.750
playing spades. I go, let me show you guys something.

00:36:43.909 --> 00:36:46.829
Come on. I grab the deck of cards, and I start

00:36:46.829 --> 00:36:49.210
doing magic to the four toughest -looking guys

00:36:49.210 --> 00:36:52.460
in the cell, right? Within two minutes, they're

00:36:52.460 --> 00:36:54.599
erupting. And once they're erupting, everybody,

00:36:55.219 --> 00:36:57.920
because Central Book is removed here, everybody's

00:36:57.920 --> 00:36:59.400
standing around going nuts. And then all of a

00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:02.000
sudden, the guards are there. And now everybody's

00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:04.159
watching together. And I'm like, this is what

00:37:04.159 --> 00:37:07.300
the magic show needs to be. Whether you're here

00:37:07.300 --> 00:37:09.559
or this, whether you're this, that, whether you're

00:37:09.559 --> 00:37:11.980
young, old, rich, poor, black, white, whatever.

00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:14.940
Everybody wants to see it. No. No, everybody's

00:37:14.940 --> 00:37:18.260
got a good side. I want to show that people are

00:37:18.260 --> 00:37:21.860
all the same. Sure, there's some that are horrific

00:37:21.860 --> 00:37:24.380
and do horrible. But at the core of everybody,

00:37:24.659 --> 00:37:27.039
there's like an innocent kid somewhere. Maybe

00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:29.599
he got really far lost. And magic just pulls

00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:32.940
that out of people. You know? And that's why.

00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:34.980
And people say, oh, well, how could you do magic?

00:37:35.659 --> 00:37:38.300
I do magic to anybody because whether it's like

00:37:38.300 --> 00:37:41.099
visiting underage kids in prison that like you

00:37:41.099 --> 00:37:43.099
don't know what happens to them and you see them

00:37:43.099 --> 00:37:45.119
come walking up with their eyes down. They don't

00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:47.119
want to look at you because they don't like anybody

00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:49.219
there. That's authority, right? That's what ruined

00:37:49.219 --> 00:37:51.320
their lives. And then as soon as you do these

00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:55.119
tricks, suddenly they're like little happy. Sweet

00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:59.000
kids. You get the O out of them. And that's what

00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:01.440
magic did originally to my mom. Like I would

00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:03.760
do it to her and she'd be like reacting. And

00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:05.699
even if she had a terrible day, you know, she

00:38:05.699 --> 00:38:08.719
was working three jobs. This made her happy.

00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:14.119
Wow. That's a cool origin story. And it makes

00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:16.550
sense that that feeling that you get. Like when

00:38:16.550 --> 00:38:18.829
you show somebody, like the card trick you did

00:38:18.829 --> 00:38:21.210
in the other room and everybody's like, oh! That

00:38:21.210 --> 00:38:24.210
oh, the oh that you get out of people, that rush.

00:38:24.750 --> 00:38:28.010
That is because at that moment, no one's thinking

00:38:28.010 --> 00:38:30.590
of anything else. At that moment, they're like,

00:38:30.670 --> 00:38:34.369
what the fuck? How did you what? Oh, man. And

00:38:34.369 --> 00:38:36.809
by the way, I've walked many times when people

00:38:36.809 --> 00:38:39.230
were fighting about to erupt into big fights.

00:38:39.329 --> 00:38:41.670
I walked into the middle of those fights, started

00:38:41.670 --> 00:38:44.070
doing magic in those fights. No, I know. And

00:38:44.070 --> 00:38:46.889
then the fights were done. Done. Because everybody's

00:38:46.889 --> 00:38:48.349
like, what? Do you want to hear the funniest

00:38:48.349 --> 00:38:51.630
non -magical magic story? Sure, sure. Okay, so

00:38:51.630 --> 00:38:53.829
after the TV show comes out and stuff like that,

00:38:53.909 --> 00:38:55.670
I get more known. By the way, so World's Greatest

00:38:55.670 --> 00:38:57.030
City, but then I was like, okay, let me do the

00:38:57.030 --> 00:38:58.949
opposite of that. So I called it Street Magic

00:38:58.949 --> 00:39:00.269
because I was trying to come up with the lowest

00:39:00.269 --> 00:39:02.809
name. Like I was trying to come up with set the

00:39:02.809 --> 00:39:05.849
expectations as low as possible, right? Because

00:39:05.849 --> 00:39:10.230
World's Greatest. So I'm doing like card tricks,

00:39:10.289 --> 00:39:13.309
right? But anyway, so. I'm like driving with

00:39:13.309 --> 00:39:16.630
my friend in one of those smart cars in New York.

00:39:16.670 --> 00:39:18.730
And it's like the coldest day in New York. It's

00:39:18.730 --> 00:39:22.130
like freezing, like a February, like 12 degrees

00:39:22.130 --> 00:39:27.369
out type situation. And we're stuck at a red

00:39:27.369 --> 00:39:30.650
light. And there's a car with these four people

00:39:30.650 --> 00:39:33.489
outside of it. And you could see they're like

00:39:33.489 --> 00:39:35.989
struggling. They couldn't get the door open.

00:39:36.090 --> 00:39:37.829
So they realized they, and they didn't, they

00:39:37.829 --> 00:39:40.150
lost their keys. They couldn't figure it out.

00:39:40.190 --> 00:39:42.849
They couldn't get into their car. Right. But

00:39:42.849 --> 00:39:44.829
I know that that's not what's going on. Like

00:39:44.829 --> 00:39:46.989
it's freezing. So I understand the situation.

00:39:47.269 --> 00:39:51.530
So I go, Doug, stop one second. And I walk up

00:39:51.530 --> 00:39:54.130
next to these, this group walk up to the car.

00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:57.340
Pulled the door open, but I like – it made it

00:39:57.340 --> 00:39:58.900
look like I'm just pulling it, but I was giving

00:39:58.900 --> 00:40:01.320
it – the door opens up and it looks like I did

00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:03.760
nothing. Then I get back in the car and leave

00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:05.599
and I hear, they go, that's David. They go, ah!

00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:07.840
It was like the best trick I ever did, but it

00:40:07.840 --> 00:40:09.960
was just opening up a door on a frozen night

00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:14.480
because I knew that it was just frozen. But that's

00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:19.800
the same as what magic is. It's like – so there's

00:40:19.800 --> 00:40:21.460
a book called Magic and Showmanship, which is

00:40:21.460 --> 00:40:24.489
all about like what makes magic effective. And

00:40:24.489 --> 00:40:26.909
it's called, like, the ham sandwich. He says,

00:40:26.909 --> 00:40:28.869
if you just said, reach in your pocket right

00:40:28.869 --> 00:40:30.809
now, there's a ham sandwich, that's a good trick.

00:40:31.110 --> 00:40:32.789
But if you were like, man, I'm hungry, I would

00:40:32.789 --> 00:40:34.769
love a ham sandwich, and I had already put it

00:40:34.769 --> 00:40:36.190
there, and I'm like, reach in your pocket, and

00:40:36.190 --> 00:40:40.510
then there's, that's real magic. So it's just

00:40:40.510 --> 00:40:43.329
context. That's where it's so baffling. Because

00:40:43.329 --> 00:40:45.130
then people walk away, how the fuck did he know

00:40:45.130 --> 00:40:48.250
I was going to say ham sandwich? Like the folded

00:40:48.250 --> 00:40:50.829
car that you somehow or another shoved into Jeff's

00:40:50.829 --> 00:40:54.909
wrist below his watch. We were all like, what?

00:40:55.929 --> 00:40:59.150
I mean, I know there's something to it. I don't

00:40:59.150 --> 00:41:01.789
know what you're doing, but that O, the result,

00:41:01.949 --> 00:41:05.630
the O, is pretty phenomenal. But in that moment,

00:41:05.710 --> 00:41:08.289
no one's thinking of anything else. Yeah. But

00:41:08.289 --> 00:41:11.469
it's short. No, but there's also a lot of people

00:41:11.469 --> 00:41:14.090
that are trying to figure it out. Yeah. But they're

00:41:14.090 --> 00:41:16.650
still going, oh. Even if they're trying to figure

00:41:16.650 --> 00:41:18.789
it out, they're not thinking of anything other

00:41:18.789 --> 00:41:22.860
than that trick. That moment. They might be trying

00:41:22.860 --> 00:41:24.360
to figure it out, but they're still, they're

00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:26.320
not thinking about, oh, I got to feed the dog.

00:41:26.739 --> 00:41:28.539
They're thinking about that moment. Unless they're

00:41:28.539 --> 00:41:30.659
like good friends of mine. They'll do magic and

00:41:30.659 --> 00:41:34.360
they're like, oh, okay. But that's different.

00:41:35.300 --> 00:41:38.119
Yeah, we can all get too accustomed to things.

00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:42.679
So you first get on television, you first do

00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.820
these things, and then your magic evolves. And

00:41:45.820 --> 00:41:49.019
your magic goes from being just magic to some

00:41:49.019 --> 00:41:51.260
of the... more insane things you've done like

00:41:51.260 --> 00:41:53.500
standing in a block of ice for how long did you

00:41:53.500 --> 00:41:57.559
do it for 70 like 63 hours i'm always late so

00:41:57.559 --> 00:41:59.860
i showed up late so i missed like what the length

00:41:59.860 --> 00:42:02.300
of time i was supposed to do so that's all but

00:42:02.300 --> 00:42:04.539
i'm always late i made it here on time though

00:42:04.539 --> 00:42:07.139
didn't i you were early yeah yeah perfect but

00:42:07.139 --> 00:42:10.360
i rode the motorcycle here and was flying because

00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:12.760
i had to make i wanted to be on time so i flew

00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:16.609
you were on time yeah um the the ice thing What

00:42:16.609 --> 00:42:19.710
made you decide to stand in a block of ice for

00:42:19.710 --> 00:42:22.050
60 plus hours? Well, so I'll tell you that. So

00:42:22.050 --> 00:42:23.690
you were saying, how do you go from the magic

00:42:23.690 --> 00:42:26.510
tricks? To these extreme physical endurance and

00:42:26.510 --> 00:42:28.429
mind things. So studying Houdini and all that

00:42:28.429 --> 00:42:30.489
stuff. And then there's a poster of Houdini that

00:42:30.489 --> 00:42:33.570
I loved where he was buried alive, but he never

00:42:33.570 --> 00:42:35.570
did the stunt. He died before he got to do it,

00:42:35.590 --> 00:42:37.170
but he was going to be buried alive underground

00:42:37.170 --> 00:42:40.909
in a coffin. So I stare at, I love that poster

00:42:40.909 --> 00:42:43.110
since I was a kid. It's like in the magic books,

00:42:43.190 --> 00:42:45.920
you see that poster. And anyway, so. So Bill,

00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:47.940
again, the guy I told you about, Bill Kalush,

00:42:47.980 --> 00:42:50.000
comes up to me and he's like, what about this?

00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:52.500
And he shows me an image of an Indian fakira

00:42:52.500 --> 00:42:54.380
that was buried alive for a month. He's like,

00:42:54.400 --> 00:42:56.420
what if you pretend to be buried alive in Central

00:42:56.420 --> 00:42:58.260
Park? We'll sneak you out and you'll come back

00:42:58.260 --> 00:43:01.699
a month later. And I was like, I always wanted

00:43:01.699 --> 00:43:04.300
to do Houdini -like things, but I never wanted

00:43:04.300 --> 00:43:06.940
to copy. But that one he never did. So I was

00:43:06.940 --> 00:43:09.260
kind of like, well, that's interesting. But what

00:43:09.260 --> 00:43:12.000
if instead of doing it the way he did it, what

00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:14.619
if I did it? And everybody could see that I was

00:43:14.619 --> 00:43:17.619
buried alive. So what if I was really just buried

00:43:17.619 --> 00:43:20.179
alive? Like, it can't be that hard. He's like,

00:43:20.300 --> 00:43:22.079
yeah, you can't do that. And I was staying at

00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:25.079
his place. So we got a coffin from Queens where

00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:27.000
actually Houdini was buried. I bought a coffin.

00:43:27.019 --> 00:43:29.239
We brought it back to his house. And then I would

00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:32.320
just practice sleeping in the coffin. I know,

00:43:32.380 --> 00:43:34.039
but then suddenly I realized you don't eat food.

00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:35.500
And then if you have a little thing to go to

00:43:35.500 --> 00:43:37.260
the bathroom, I did four days like nothing. So

00:43:37.260 --> 00:43:39.099
I'm like, okay, I can do a week. And that was

00:43:39.099 --> 00:43:42.159
it. Then I pushed the idea of doing the Buried

00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:44.780
Alive and convinced people to let me do it publicly.

00:43:45.019 --> 00:43:48.039
And what's funny is, like, firemen and stuff,

00:43:48.079 --> 00:43:49.800
like, would come to the stunt in the middle of

00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:52.079
the night, and they would shine, like, holograms

00:43:52.079 --> 00:43:54.420
at me and their lights and stuff. Oh, that's

00:43:54.420 --> 00:43:57.260
the ice. And then they would assume that I wasn't

00:43:57.260 --> 00:44:00.119
actually in there. Okay, so here. So back to

00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:05.039
this one. Well. But let's not jump around. So

00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:07.699
the buried alive thing, where did you do it physically?

00:44:08.019 --> 00:44:11.639
That was in New York City on the west side. Trump

00:44:11.639 --> 00:44:13.880
had like this bunch of properties that he was

00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:17.340
developing. And I was like, I want to be buried

00:44:17.340 --> 00:44:19.559
alive on one of your properties. Is that possible?

00:44:19.679 --> 00:44:21.900
He's like, sure. He just sent me his driver and

00:44:21.900 --> 00:44:24.300
I went around and that's where I did my first

00:44:24.300 --> 00:44:27.320
stunt. How could they see you, though? I'm not

00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:31.099
aware of this one. Yeah, so it was see -through.

00:44:31.179 --> 00:44:34.099
And then we put six tons of water on top of it.

00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:37.440
So that's basically it. And then so I was there.

00:44:37.719 --> 00:44:40.400
And how are you getting oxygen? See those two

00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:43.280
big holes? See the holes above my head right

00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:46.800
there? So the air was being blown in and out.

00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:48.980
But it's pretty straightforward. That one's,

00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:51.960
to me, not that impressive. You just laid there

00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:54.519
for a week? Yeah. But you know what the hard

00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:57.539
part – I mean, sure, body and you lose weight.

00:44:57.579 --> 00:45:01.840
But the hard part of it is – and you would never

00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:05.380
anticipate this being the hard part. But if you're

00:45:05.380 --> 00:45:07.920
not used to like peeing while standing in front

00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:10.440
of lots of people staring at you, it's actually

00:45:10.440 --> 00:45:13.199
really hard. So I'd be buried alive and I had

00:45:13.199 --> 00:45:15.199
the trucker's tube on and all that stuff, which

00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:17.420
is like a con with a catheter or whatever. And

00:45:17.420 --> 00:45:20.920
people are there the whole time. Like it suddenly

00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.119
became like an event. And so there was never

00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:25.440
like and I was they were like, oh, we'll cover

00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:27.440
it so no one can see. I'm like, no, then people

00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:29.579
are going to think I'm sneaking in and out. So

00:45:29.579 --> 00:45:32.579
I had to learn. So I would close my eyes like

00:45:32.579 --> 00:45:34.460
when you were a kid sleeping and you'd have those

00:45:34.460 --> 00:45:38.340
dreams. It would take me hours and I'd finally

00:45:38.340 --> 00:45:41.260
be able to pee. Right. But then and by the way,

00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:43.420
I didn't eat for a few weeks before. So I had

00:45:43.420 --> 00:45:45.099
no food. So that was the other was an issue.

00:45:45.300 --> 00:45:48.079
But. What happened by midway through the stunt,

00:45:48.199 --> 00:45:52.099
I'd be waving and smiling and like peeing. And

00:45:52.099 --> 00:45:53.659
it was like nothing, you know. But these are

00:45:53.659 --> 00:45:56.340
things that you don't consider when you're practicing

00:45:56.340 --> 00:45:59.800
in your coffin in your house. So you didn't eat

00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:01.980
for how long? Two weeks before? Yeah. Yeah. But

00:46:01.980 --> 00:46:04.179
I was always into fasting. I read Siddhartha

00:46:04.179 --> 00:46:08.480
as a kid. And I had done like a week with just

00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:10.760
water and, you know, knew all that, knew the

00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:13.539
body's really good with that. So you were comfortable

00:46:13.539 --> 00:46:16.219
with the fact that you were able to fast and

00:46:16.219 --> 00:46:18.480
that wouldn't be an issue. Yeah. And you were

00:46:18.480 --> 00:46:19.920
comfortable with the fact that you were getting

00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:21.699
air. Yeah. And where are you drinking water from?

00:46:21.739 --> 00:46:23.599
How are you getting water? I had like a little

00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:25.440
bit of water in there that I could suck through

00:46:25.440 --> 00:46:27.980
a thing like that. And that was fine. It was

00:46:27.980 --> 00:46:30.239
like it was enough. How much water do you think

00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:32.389
you drank over the? week that you were in there

00:46:32.389 --> 00:46:35.130
uh i don't know they always say it was like just

00:46:35.130 --> 00:46:36.949
a little bit but it was a good amount it was

00:46:36.949 --> 00:46:41.829
like uh i don't know probably probably three

00:46:41.829 --> 00:46:45.070
liters a day or something oh okay yeah they say

00:46:45.070 --> 00:46:47.110
he did tablespoons of water but no it was it

00:46:47.110 --> 00:46:50.260
was it was like a normal amount so And then,

00:46:50.260 --> 00:46:52.840
by the way, I did 44 days with nothing but water.

00:46:52.900 --> 00:46:55.800
And I did nothing but pure H2O. So it's not even

00:46:55.800 --> 00:46:58.380
like it had minerals in it. And body was full

00:46:58.380 --> 00:47:00.739
recovery. And my starvation expert, who's like

00:47:00.739 --> 00:47:03.500
one of the top guys in the world in London, my

00:47:03.500 --> 00:47:05.380
doctor at the end thought that I was cheating.

00:47:05.500 --> 00:47:07.219
So they put me on an IV. So you used distilled

00:47:07.219 --> 00:47:10.980
water? It was a company called H2O. And their

00:47:10.980 --> 00:47:14.179
thing is it's just pure. Yeah, exactly. Distilled.

00:47:14.280 --> 00:47:18.079
Right. No minerals. Right. Which is irrelevant,

00:47:18.219 --> 00:47:22.840
by the way. I had nothing but pure H2O for 44

00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:28.059
days, lost 60 pounds, bone mass index dropped

00:47:28.059 --> 00:47:31.059
33%. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Yeah,

00:47:31.059 --> 00:47:32.860
no, no, it was bad. No, it wasn't good. Yeah,

00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:35.500
it wasn't good. But the doctor thought I was

00:47:35.500 --> 00:47:37.260
cheating because he's a magician. By the way,

00:47:37.380 --> 00:47:40.380
my friends that were with me that are magicians

00:47:40.380 --> 00:47:42.139
and the guy building it, they're like, you need

00:47:42.139 --> 00:47:44.599
to take these vitamins. And they hand me a handful

00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:48.909
of sugary vitamins. And I'm like, no. Just because

00:47:48.909 --> 00:47:51.030
if I'm going to do it, I want to like actually

00:47:51.030 --> 00:47:54.090
do it, right? Right. And if I would have taken

00:47:54.090 --> 00:47:56.449
those vitamins, I feel like my metabolism wouldn't

00:47:56.449 --> 00:47:58.550
have gone into starvation mode and I might have

00:47:58.550 --> 00:48:01.289
had irreversible damage from it. So the fact

00:48:01.289 --> 00:48:03.550
that I actually did it, I went into starvation

00:48:03.550 --> 00:48:06.670
mode and the body protects itself. But what I

00:48:06.670 --> 00:48:08.550
was saying is the starvation expert that now

00:48:08.550 --> 00:48:10.670
I have a paper published in the New England Journal

00:48:10.670 --> 00:48:12.369
of Medicine with him, which I'm pretty proud

00:48:12.369 --> 00:48:15.630
of. But he he didn't believe me. So he put me

00:48:15.630 --> 00:48:17.769
on an IV and right away the phosphate levels

00:48:17.769 --> 00:48:20.590
reacted and I almost went into shock. So I almost

00:48:20.590 --> 00:48:23.570
actually did die when they refit fed me. So his

00:48:23.570 --> 00:48:26.159
paper is called The Refeeding Syndrome. They

00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:28.260
say like after World War Two, when they rescued

00:48:28.260 --> 00:48:31.780
the from the from the camps, the Jews and everybody

00:48:31.780 --> 00:48:34.280
was starving the camps. And a lot of soldiers

00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:36.260
gave them like candy bars and stuff. And all

00:48:36.260 --> 00:48:38.599
of a sudden their systems went into shock and

00:48:38.599 --> 00:48:41.260
they died from not being refed the right way.

00:48:41.610 --> 00:48:43.230
So what is the correct way to refeed someone

00:48:43.230 --> 00:48:44.949
if they haven't eaten in all those days? You

00:48:44.949 --> 00:48:47.010
have to slowly bring them back so that you don't

00:48:47.010 --> 00:48:48.869
have what happened to me, which is phosphate

00:48:48.869 --> 00:48:51.869
levels go all crazy. So very small amounts of

00:48:51.869 --> 00:48:54.329
food. Yeah, but then two days later, somebody

00:48:54.329 --> 00:48:57.510
sent me a trunk from Harrods full of food in

00:48:57.510 --> 00:49:01.579
London like a friend. And I was giving it to

00:49:01.579 --> 00:49:03.579
all the nurses and doctors because I knew I shouldn't

00:49:03.579 --> 00:49:05.000
eat it. And I was trying to do it right. Then

00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:07.300
like in the middle of the night, I woke up and

00:49:07.300 --> 00:49:10.920
had like a bag of potato chips. And then a bagel

00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:13.179
with cream cheese. And I was wrecked. It was

00:49:13.179 --> 00:49:15.480
like the most painful. I also didn't go to the

00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:19.179
bathroom for a month and a half. What? Think

00:49:19.179 --> 00:49:23.280
about that. So how long does it take you to recover

00:49:23.280 --> 00:49:26.099
from one of these things? That one I feel like

00:49:26.099 --> 00:49:30.590
I never fully recovered from. How so? I don't

00:49:30.590 --> 00:49:32.329
know. I wouldn't recommend anybody does that.

00:49:32.349 --> 00:49:36.250
It goes super, super long with no food. When

00:49:36.250 --> 00:49:38.550
you say you don't think you ever recovered, what

00:49:38.550 --> 00:49:40.750
do you mean by that? My body always goes like

00:49:40.750 --> 00:49:42.969
this now. It's always confused when I train.

00:49:43.269 --> 00:49:45.530
I go up, down really quick, really easy, and

00:49:45.530 --> 00:49:47.429
it was since that. Because your body freaked

00:49:47.429 --> 00:49:49.010
out because it went into starvation mode. Yeah,

00:49:49.030 --> 00:49:51.510
I feel like that, but there's no way to prove

00:49:51.510 --> 00:49:54.269
that. That's a common thing, though, with people

00:49:54.269 --> 00:49:56.780
who cut weight for fights. Really? Yeah. They

00:49:56.780 --> 00:49:58.260
get to a certain point when they have kidney

00:49:58.260 --> 00:50:01.300
failure. Yeah. Yeah. And then their body. Exactly.

00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:03.239
That's what happened to me. And I keep having

00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:06.300
problems with my kidneys. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And

00:50:06.300 --> 00:50:10.760
I have a spot on my kidney right now. Yeah. Yeah.

00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:14.599
That's funny. That's a real common one with guys.

00:50:14.940 --> 00:50:16.900
Daniel Cormier actually had to drop out of the

00:50:16.900 --> 00:50:19.199
Olympics because of that. I didn't know that.

00:50:19.239 --> 00:50:21.519
His kidneys failed. Yeah, kidney failure is a

00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:24.500
big one with fighters. Kidney stones, too, for

00:50:24.500 --> 00:50:27.980
a lot of guys who cut weight. So that was probably,

00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:30.099
in your opinion, the one that damaged you the

00:50:30.099 --> 00:50:33.099
most or left the most residual damage? So the

00:50:33.099 --> 00:50:37.780
most difficult one was the ice, by far. The ice

00:50:37.780 --> 00:50:40.940
was a monster. And the reason why was because...

00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:43.739
And now there's also something great about it.

00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:46.219
So it was a warm November. So the air coming

00:50:46.219 --> 00:50:48.539
through was like, you know, it happened to be

00:50:48.539 --> 00:50:52.940
a 68 degree three day spread, which led to the

00:50:52.940 --> 00:50:56.500
ice keep dripping the cold on me. And it's radiating

00:50:56.500 --> 00:50:59.119
this way. But I'm also standing up in one spot

00:50:59.119 --> 00:51:01.019
completely still. And you can't sleep because

00:51:01.019 --> 00:51:02.780
if you fall asleep and you press into ice, you

00:51:02.780 --> 00:51:04.860
get frostbite. You have to cut your skin off.

00:51:04.920 --> 00:51:07.920
Right. So I'm staying completely awake the entire

00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:11.099
time. And it's a difficult situation. On hour

00:51:11.099 --> 00:51:15.099
55, exactly, I look back at all of it. My friends

00:51:15.099 --> 00:51:19.119
knew. My eyes just go out. And I'm now hallucinating

00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:23.380
like you could never, ever. No hallucinogenic

00:51:23.380 --> 00:51:26.460
drug will ever give you those kind of hallucinations.

00:51:26.579 --> 00:51:30.280
What was it? First of all, it's amazing, but

00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:32.599
it's also when it goes into that nightmare part,

00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:35.900
it's scary. But there's also that amazing part

00:51:35.900 --> 00:51:38.199
of it. And if you have people after that stunt,

00:51:38.340 --> 00:51:40.539
now whenever I hallucinate on stunts, I have

00:51:40.539 --> 00:51:43.039
friends there that I say I'm going to start hallucinating.

00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:46.000
Just talk me through it. But so here's when I

00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:48.119
started realizing that I was hallucinating because

00:51:48.119 --> 00:51:51.559
you don't know when you are right. And by the

00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:53.760
way, the one stunt I never did was sleep deprivation.

00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:56.119
If you remind me, I'll explain that whole thing,

00:51:56.219 --> 00:52:00.550
but I'll forget. So what happens is when I started

00:52:00.550 --> 00:52:03.769
realizing it is I need to know like what time

00:52:03.769 --> 00:52:06.110
it is because I'm done at 10 p .m. because it

00:52:06.110 --> 00:52:08.449
was live on ABC. So I'm like, I need to know

00:52:08.449 --> 00:52:10.429
how much longer I got to go through this because

00:52:10.429 --> 00:52:13.889
it's getting tough. So it's there. By the way,

00:52:13.909 --> 00:52:16.909
and my doorman would come and like news or whatever,

00:52:17.050 --> 00:52:20.530
Fox News said David Blaine is not really in the

00:52:20.530 --> 00:52:23.369
eye. They did a special on it, an hour long special.

00:52:23.980 --> 00:52:26.420
On Fox saying that I was never in the ice and

00:52:26.420 --> 00:52:28.900
I had a double of me that was in the ice. I was

00:52:28.900 --> 00:52:30.599
switching up and down with them while eating

00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:33.239
burgers and reading the news. Fox News did that?

00:52:33.320 --> 00:52:35.940
No, Fox. Fox, the TV station. Oh. Yeah, yeah.

00:52:36.260 --> 00:52:38.960
But they did a one -hour special that I was never

00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:40.659
in there. So my doorman - How did they get away

00:52:40.659 --> 00:52:42.000
with doing that? I don't know. I don't care.

00:52:42.059 --> 00:52:45.119
But listen, so my doorman who comes to - This

00:52:45.119 --> 00:52:47.639
is the funny part, though. So my doorman that

00:52:47.639 --> 00:52:51.949
comes to see me, he's - He knows me so well.

00:52:52.030 --> 00:52:54.210
He was at Buried Alive, and he's so nice, right?

00:52:54.329 --> 00:52:57.949
So he comes to visit me in New York, and he walks

00:52:57.949 --> 00:53:00.469
up to the ice, and he sees me, and he's looking

00:53:00.469 --> 00:53:02.690
at me all weird. I wasn't hallucinating. He's

00:53:02.690 --> 00:53:04.909
looking at me all weird. Then he leaves. But

00:53:04.909 --> 00:53:07.429
I go back. I was like, what's up? He's like,

00:53:08.769 --> 00:53:13.230
are you sure that that was you in the ice? Could

00:53:13.230 --> 00:53:16.090
that have been you? I was like, what do you mean?

00:53:16.250 --> 00:53:19.679
He's like. OK, well, it's you know, so we go

00:53:19.679 --> 00:53:23.599
on that special airs. Now he's convinced that

00:53:23.599 --> 00:53:25.519
it wasn't me. And I especially is why you're

00:53:25.519 --> 00:53:27.719
still. No, no, no. That's after. But he already

00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:31.420
thinks because he doesn't believe it. My friends,

00:53:31.480 --> 00:53:33.739
my best friends, when I was buried alive, they

00:53:33.739 --> 00:53:36.860
didn't think I was really doing it. They thought

00:53:36.860 --> 00:53:41.280
it was a trick. Right. So he asked me, he's like,

00:53:41.440 --> 00:53:44.119
was that really you? Because they said that you

00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:46.960
were a double of yourself and you were switching.

00:53:47.039 --> 00:53:49.260
And I was like, Eddie, but you looked at me.

00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:53.440
Like, if I have a twin brother, like, where is

00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:56.780
that identical twin brother? And why would I

00:53:56.780 --> 00:54:00.699
switch up? So anyway, so back to the, when I

00:54:00.699 --> 00:54:03.599
get to 55 hours. So I'm looking around and I

00:54:03.599 --> 00:54:06.289
need the time. So I go like this. Like, what

00:54:06.289 --> 00:54:13.730
time is it? And the guy goes. 402. Yeah. So he

00:54:13.730 --> 00:54:16.949
shows me 402. So I'm like, OK, that means we

00:54:16.949 --> 00:54:19.110
have like another six hours or whatever it is.

00:54:19.150 --> 00:54:22.030
Right. By the way, my time estimations are. So

00:54:22.030 --> 00:54:25.969
I'm like, OK, wait. It might have been 202. Wait,

00:54:26.130 --> 00:54:29.900
wait, wait. And I wait, and it's hard. I'm like,

00:54:29.980 --> 00:54:32.880
things are moving. Everything's weird. Spiders

00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:34.619
are walking up. People are, like, sitting in

00:54:34.619 --> 00:54:38.159
the ice. I'm waiting, waiting. Voices are talking

00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:40.659
to me that I'm talking back to, right? But I'm

00:54:40.659 --> 00:54:43.320
waiting, and I'm waiting, and I wait for, like,

00:54:43.320 --> 00:54:46.719
a few hours before I ask anybody the time again.

00:54:47.619 --> 00:54:51.840
And I see somebody, and I'm like, and the guy

00:54:51.840 --> 00:55:00.099
goes, 4 -0. Three. Oh, no. And that's when it

00:55:00.099 --> 00:55:02.599
all crashed out. It was like when that connection

00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:06.219
and then the hallucinations were just rampant

00:55:06.219 --> 00:55:08.500
and my eyes were all crazy when the drill was

00:55:08.500 --> 00:55:10.119
– when the chainsaw was coming through, I tried

00:55:10.119 --> 00:55:14.260
to grab it. Yeah. See? Look at that. Oh, you're

00:55:14.260 --> 00:55:18.199
gone. But, okay, but now that I've learned that,

00:55:18.320 --> 00:55:23.059
sleep deprivation is one of the most amazing

00:55:23.059 --> 00:55:26.760
ways if it's controlled. to go to another place

00:55:26.760 --> 00:55:29.860
it's like that but i want to do but i want to

00:55:29.860 --> 00:55:32.400
get to that before we get to that like while

00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:34.760
you're in there what are you doing to occupy

00:55:34.760 --> 00:55:38.300
your mind like how are you did you have were

00:55:38.300 --> 00:55:40.820
you using meditation were you just thinking were

00:55:40.820 --> 00:55:44.420
you just winging it like so okay so for some

00:55:44.420 --> 00:55:46.780
of them what i do a big first of all yeah a lot

00:55:46.780 --> 00:55:49.039
of things you get to you have free time to think

00:55:49.039 --> 00:55:52.400
like there's no phones no distractions Aside

00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:55.400
from the physical, but the one thing that I use

00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:57.739
with everything is kind of like a breakdown of

00:55:57.739 --> 00:56:00.239
numbers. I'm like, okay, this much, I have to

00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:02.099
get to this point. Then when I get to this point,

00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:03.719
even when I run on a treadmill, I'm like, okay,

00:56:03.780 --> 00:56:05.380
I have to get to this point, which means let

00:56:05.380 --> 00:56:07.199
me get to the halfway point. And I'll consider

00:56:07.199 --> 00:56:09.320
that when I'm holding my breath, I do the same

00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:11.829
thing. I'm like, okay, I need to get to 15. minutes

00:56:11.829 --> 00:56:13.869
so let me get to seven and i'll start at seven

00:56:13.869 --> 00:56:16.010
then at seven i'm like okay i'm at seven left

00:56:16.010 --> 00:56:17.630
i have to get to another three and a half then

00:56:17.630 --> 00:56:19.650
three and a half and then what i always do is

00:56:19.650 --> 00:56:21.989
whenever i'm training i always go past it so

00:56:21.989 --> 00:56:23.769
it's the same thing so like when i'm running

00:56:23.769 --> 00:56:26.150
a treadmill i'm like if i have to do let's say

00:56:26.150 --> 00:56:29.889
like you know 3 .1 whatever it is i set that

00:56:29.889 --> 00:56:32.269
as my target but then i always go like another

00:56:32.269 --> 00:56:35.469
half a mile past it because i won't You can't

00:56:35.469 --> 00:56:37.329
quit before because then you'll be in the mindset

00:56:37.329 --> 00:56:39.510
that, okay, I can stop before. So like anything

00:56:39.510 --> 00:56:41.469
that I do, I use numbers to get there. I get

00:56:41.469 --> 00:56:43.670
halfway and then I push the goal further every

00:56:43.670 --> 00:56:47.550
single time, no matter what. So it's a mathematical

00:56:47.550 --> 00:56:50.570
system, ironically. So you don't necessarily

00:56:50.570 --> 00:56:53.349
have any sort of meditative techniques. You're

00:56:53.349 --> 00:56:55.389
just concentrating on the numbers. Meditation

00:56:55.389 --> 00:56:57.889
for breath holding all the time. Every time I

00:56:57.889 --> 00:56:59.329
do a breath hold, it's all meditation. But not

00:56:59.329 --> 00:57:01.210
in the ice. No, the ice was kind of, there was

00:57:01.210 --> 00:57:03.289
like a breathing thing, and I didn't really know

00:57:03.289 --> 00:57:05.349
much about it back then, but I was more like

00:57:05.349 --> 00:57:08.230
fighting it. What is it like on your ankles or

00:57:08.230 --> 00:57:10.389
your knees and your back? Everything swells up

00:57:10.389 --> 00:57:12.389
like edema really bad and all that stuff, and

00:57:12.389 --> 00:57:14.550
the pain is excruciating and unbearable. But,

00:57:14.550 --> 00:57:17.130
yeah, I mean. You're waiting. And you didn't

00:57:17.130 --> 00:57:20.769
have any residual effects of that? Just my ankles

00:57:20.769 --> 00:57:22.630
and legs were really swollen. Just for a few

00:57:22.630 --> 00:57:25.289
days or so? Longer than that, but yeah. Yeah.

00:57:26.369 --> 00:57:29.869
Now, has anybody ever tried to break that? I

00:57:29.869 --> 00:57:32.510
don't know. I hope not. Not because I don't care

00:57:32.510 --> 00:57:33.789
about how long. I just don't want anybody to

00:57:33.789 --> 00:57:35.769
hurt themselves. But I would imagine someone

00:57:35.769 --> 00:57:38.110
does something so high profile like you did that,

00:57:38.210 --> 00:57:40.150
that people would be like, hmm, I'm going to

00:57:40.150 --> 00:57:42.940
try that. I mean, I think it's too weird. So

00:57:42.940 --> 00:57:44.760
people aren't really like, oh, I want to do that.

00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:47.019
There's billions of people. I would imagine that

00:57:47.019 --> 00:57:49.559
someone would step in and try to emulate that.

00:57:49.659 --> 00:57:51.780
Obviously, it was so. I pray not. And that's

00:57:51.780 --> 00:57:54.199
why I pray my daughter never becomes a magician,

00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:56.239
even though she's so amazing at it. Because if

00:57:56.239 --> 00:57:58.780
she started doing these things, I like if she's

00:57:58.780 --> 00:58:00.579
going to bump her knee, I'm like, I have a heart

00:58:00.579 --> 00:58:03.199
attack. Well, that's the problem with being a

00:58:03.199 --> 00:58:06.059
parent, right? Yeah. The things that make you

00:58:06.059 --> 00:58:08.679
amazing are your ability to overcome adversity.

00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:11.039
And then you shelter your children. university

00:58:11.039 --> 00:58:14.300
you know it's all my favorite people are all

00:58:14.300 --> 00:58:17.320
they all came from a very tumultuous childhood

00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:20.820
they all came from like turmoil and no one wants

00:58:20.820 --> 00:58:22.519
that for their child you want to protect your

00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:26.059
children yeah it's weird it's very weird so what

00:58:26.059 --> 00:58:30.280
are the ones have you done where like while you

00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:32.719
were doing it you were thinking what the fuck

00:58:32.719 --> 00:58:41.730
have i done Because you committed. There was

00:58:41.730 --> 00:58:45.650
one. Don't Google. Don't pull this one up. Don't

00:58:45.650 --> 00:58:48.230
pull this one. It was called the dive of death.

00:58:48.510 --> 00:58:50.989
And I started to get cocky. I'd done like the

00:58:50.989 --> 00:58:53.989
thing in London. I'd done like the water tank.

00:58:54.349 --> 00:58:56.880
I'd done. So I started to get. Too cocky, right?

00:58:57.159 --> 00:58:59.599
I didn't have time and ABC wanted to show really

00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:01.539
quick. I was like, okay, I'm going to go upside

00:59:01.539 --> 00:59:05.059
down for 60 hours, three days, whatever, right?

00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:08.079
I was going to be upside down. And then some

00:59:08.079 --> 00:59:11.320
guy was in a parachute upside down on a tree

00:59:11.320 --> 00:59:13.039
in Italy and he was in the hospital because he

00:59:13.039 --> 00:59:15.440
was three days upside down in the tree. And I

00:59:15.440 --> 00:59:17.820
was trying to speak to him, but he was like not.

00:59:19.210 --> 00:59:20.789
Didn't want to talk at all. And then they were

00:59:20.789 --> 00:59:23.010
like, it's his situation's really bad. So it

00:59:23.010 --> 00:59:24.869
kind of like set the tone before I did the thing.

00:59:25.170 --> 00:59:27.030
The situation's really bad. From being upside

00:59:27.030 --> 00:59:29.730
down for that long. What happened to him? I think

00:59:29.730 --> 00:59:33.829
the blood, I think it does. I don't know because

00:59:33.829 --> 00:59:36.110
he didn't, I didn't get to ask. They wouldn't

00:59:36.110 --> 00:59:39.250
tell me, but he wouldn't also engage in it. It

00:59:39.250 --> 00:59:41.909
was bad. That I know. It was like in the news,

00:59:41.929 --> 00:59:46.050
it was bad. I don't know what the permanent repercussion

00:59:46.050 --> 00:59:48.389
is. But so when I did this thing upside down

00:59:48.389 --> 00:59:50.889
in New York, I didn't practice it. I thought

00:59:50.889 --> 00:59:53.449
I could just wing it. My stunt guy who taught

00:59:53.449 --> 00:59:55.610
me to jump off the pole, he's like, you can never,

00:59:55.630 --> 00:59:58.929
ever just go wing something and not dial it in

00:59:58.929 --> 01:00:00.550
and rehearse and figure it out. You can't just

01:00:00.550 --> 01:00:04.389
go do it. You can't hope for luck. And that was

01:00:04.389 --> 01:00:06.809
the first one ever and last one that I was like,

01:00:06.889 --> 01:00:09.400
okay, let me just hope. that I can do this. As

01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:11.199
soon as I went upside down, remember I said you

01:00:11.199 --> 01:00:13.280
could never prepare for certain things. Yeah.

01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:15.420
I had that catheter hooked up and the first time

01:00:15.420 --> 01:00:18.139
I peed, it just went upside down all over me.

01:00:18.139 --> 01:00:20.719
So this way, and I was like, I'm done. So the

01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:23.000
whole stunt went down over there. That was like,

01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:25.900
that was a great learning lesson because I learned

01:00:25.900 --> 01:00:28.360
you never just dial it in. Did you make it through

01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:31.239
that one? Yes, but it was terrible. It was a

01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:33.960
garbage stunt. But you were asking me like, what

01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:37.119
things? So that was one that was like, but all

01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:39.829
of the, others they were amazing the team that

01:00:39.829 --> 01:00:42.769
working with the best people all of it and this

01:00:42.769 --> 01:00:46.349
one is the most amazing like i have a team that's

01:00:46.349 --> 01:00:48.789
the one you're doing right now i have the most

01:00:48.789 --> 01:00:52.150
amazing i've never been able to have a team like

01:00:52.150 --> 01:00:55.030
this this is a balloon one yes okay explain this

01:00:55.030 --> 01:00:58.230
okay so i went to youtube with crazy idea who

01:00:58.230 --> 01:01:00.690
by the way this is youtube and they've been a

01:01:00.690 --> 01:01:04.659
blessing beyond Beyond. So I'm like, OK, here's

01:01:04.659 --> 01:01:06.619
what I want to do. Like, I want to grab a bunch

01:01:06.619 --> 01:01:08.500
of balloons and go floating up into the sky and

01:01:08.500 --> 01:01:12.239
disappear. Like, OK, great. OK, sure. So now

01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:14.159
I need it to ascend. This is all hypothetical.

01:01:14.360 --> 01:01:16.960
I'm not like a skydiver like that has a thousand

01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:19.239
or ten thousand or twenty thousand jumps. I'm

01:01:19.239 --> 01:01:21.619
not a balloon pilot. I have no experience in

01:01:21.619 --> 01:01:23.340
any of this stuff. I just know that I want to

01:01:23.340 --> 01:01:25.179
do this and I've wanted to do it forever. But

01:01:25.179 --> 01:01:30.400
I had drawings of it made 15 years ago. But now

01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:33.260
you have to get for real. So there is a guy that

01:01:33.260 --> 01:01:35.579
flies balloons and there's a guy like Lawn Chair

01:01:35.579 --> 01:01:37.579
Larry that went up on balloons with like a lawn

01:01:37.579 --> 01:01:39.619
chair and a bunch of beer. That was his ballast.

01:01:39.699 --> 01:01:43.000
And he like popped balloons with a gun. So there

01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:46.360
are examples. So it's not like a complete hypothetical.

01:01:46.539 --> 01:01:48.920
This one has like, OK, so what if I could take

01:01:48.920 --> 01:01:52.039
the balloons, that idea, and just have the innocent

01:01:52.039 --> 01:01:54.699
image of a kid like we all dream of just holding

01:01:54.699 --> 01:01:56.960
the balloons and drifting up and into the sky?

01:01:57.159 --> 01:02:01.789
Here, I'll show you. What's that? What's that

01:02:01.789 --> 01:02:05.210
one from? From their website. From whose website

01:02:05.210 --> 01:02:09.550
is that, Jamie? Balloon Company. Right. So that's

01:02:09.550 --> 01:02:14.110
my balloons. Is that you up there? Yeah, we did

01:02:14.110 --> 01:02:17.510
short flights, not big in public. We kept it

01:02:17.510 --> 01:02:22.449
small. Can I show these to Jamie? No? I don't

01:02:22.449 --> 01:02:27.329
know. Yeah, to him. I can show one. Can you show

01:02:27.329 --> 01:02:29.190
it to people? I'm not sure. All right, then don't.

01:02:29.190 --> 01:02:32.329
Wait, that's my balloons. Yeah. Oh, well, that's

01:02:32.329 --> 01:02:34.369
on, but that's the end of it. It's not him doing

01:02:34.369 --> 01:02:38.250
it yet. Right. So this is, but I think maybe

01:02:38.250 --> 01:02:43.869
not. But anyway, so, okay, so it starts with

01:02:43.869 --> 01:02:47.010
just the idea of that. But now I have to go get

01:02:47.010 --> 01:02:49.969
a hot air balloon pilot license. So I go meet

01:02:49.969 --> 01:02:53.159
with the best hot air balloon pilot. instructor

01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:56.360
and also flyer but isn't that the different situation

01:02:56.360 --> 01:02:57.739
than a hot air balloon because you don't have

01:02:57.739 --> 01:03:00.179
the ability to control you have to first get

01:03:00.179 --> 01:03:02.139
your hot air balloon pilot license so you have

01:03:02.139 --> 01:03:03.920
to learn how to fly and land a balloon which

01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:06.539
is amazing right it's like so app and then you

01:03:06.539 --> 01:03:08.380
have to take that written test and i don't have

01:03:08.380 --> 01:03:10.559
time because i'm trying to do so much so i had

01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:13.559
to cram study the whole written test in eight

01:03:13.559 --> 01:03:16.880
hours With a guy helping me, I studied the whole

01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:18.719
thing, went to the airport, took the test, got

01:03:18.719 --> 01:03:21.340
that. Then you need to go get your gas restriction

01:03:21.340 --> 01:03:24.380
lifted, which means because and very few people

01:03:24.380 --> 01:03:26.340
even ever bothered to do this because who's flying

01:03:26.340 --> 01:03:29.659
hydrogen or helium nowadays? So I went and met

01:03:29.659 --> 01:03:32.719
this guy, Bert Padelt, who's the best gas balloonist

01:03:32.719 --> 01:03:34.099
in the world. He's the one that built around

01:03:34.099 --> 01:03:36.360
the world in 80 days. He's built every balloon

01:03:36.360 --> 01:03:37.900
that's done the longest flights and you fly.

01:03:38.300 --> 01:03:42.239
Now, a hot air balloon, you're like, right. You

01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:45.280
have to control it. And it's. helium and hydrogen

01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:49.320
you're just part of the wind you're literally

01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:53.119
just floating away and it'll keep going up to

01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:56.179
84 000 feet until they pop there like you are

01:03:56.179 --> 01:04:00.780
just floating like i can't explain that feeling

01:04:00.780 --> 01:04:03.840
of floating anyway so i had to go learn how to

01:04:03.840 --> 01:04:06.920
fly and land hydrogen balloons and use hydrogen

01:04:06.920 --> 01:04:09.219
because helium is more expensive and stuff like

01:04:09.219 --> 01:04:13.280
that now We have to go test the whole rig. So

01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:16.659
now and at the same time, I have to also try

01:04:16.659 --> 01:04:18.980
to get as close to 500 jumps out of an airplane

01:04:18.980 --> 01:04:20.820
because I need to be really comfortable in the

01:04:20.820 --> 01:04:23.239
air. If I have to jump out and land, I need to

01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:25.699
land safely. Right. And when you're up at 25

01:04:25.699 --> 01:04:27.960
plus thousand feet, you don't know where you

01:04:27.960 --> 01:04:32.739
are. Right. So, yeah. So now and by the way,

01:04:32.800 --> 01:04:35.179
the video. Did you see the video I made for you?

01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:37.710
You didn't see it. No. You made a video for me?

01:04:37.769 --> 01:04:39.789
Yeah, because when you did the thing with Post

01:04:39.789 --> 01:04:42.369
and Post was like, he's not real and you were

01:04:42.369 --> 01:04:45.170
defending me. I was like, not that I was defending.

01:04:45.510 --> 01:04:48.230
Hold on. I made a video. I sent it to Matt. I

01:04:48.230 --> 01:04:50.449
texted him. I didn't get a video. He didn't show

01:04:50.449 --> 01:04:52.150
it to you? Did you get a video? No. Hold on.

01:04:52.210 --> 01:04:54.989
I made you this video. So this is me yelling

01:04:54.989 --> 01:04:57.550
from the plane. And by the way, this is after

01:04:57.550 --> 01:04:59.670
the wingsuit guys jump out of the airplane. So

01:04:59.670 --> 01:05:03.449
remember, I'm also. crushing lots of jumps really

01:05:03.449 --> 01:05:05.550
fast. This is when I ran into a fence and almost

01:05:05.550 --> 01:05:08.559
killed myself. Luke, who's the best in the world

01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:12.559
that has 25 ,000 more jumps, jumped from 25 ,000

01:05:12.559 --> 01:05:14.719
feet without a parachute and landed in a net.

01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:17.199
I saw that. Yeah. So he's the guy coaching me.

01:05:17.219 --> 01:05:20.139
So he's the one filming this. And he landed at

01:05:20.139 --> 01:05:22.500
the State Troopers Patrol thing because we were

01:05:22.500 --> 01:05:25.760
so far lost. And I ended up trying to make it

01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:28.380
back, almost hitting the trees really, really

01:05:28.380 --> 01:05:31.159
close and then crashing into a fence. My legs

01:05:31.159 --> 01:05:33.059
were all bloodied up, ripped through the thing,

01:05:33.139 --> 01:05:35.139
flipped over, landed. I was fine. That was recent.

01:05:35.260 --> 01:05:37.579
I was like. And the reason why is because I was

01:05:37.579 --> 01:05:40.659
making you this video, a complete truth. But

01:05:40.659 --> 01:05:42.260
I'm going to explain it to you. So to make the

01:05:42.260 --> 01:05:45.159
video, I had to wait until the wingsuits were

01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:46.639
out of the plane because they're last, right?

01:05:46.840 --> 01:05:49.340
But that means – and by the way, the conditions,

01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:51.559
you'll see what they were like in a second. So

01:05:51.559 --> 01:05:53.800
the plane is moving really, really far away.

01:05:54.250 --> 01:05:56.730
right because it's still going that means the

01:05:56.730 --> 01:05:59.750
drop zone is way over there and i made the video

01:05:59.750 --> 01:06:01.329
and it was longer than i said it was going to

01:06:01.329 --> 01:06:03.889
be and then when we jump we're like lost in the

01:06:03.889 --> 01:06:06.590
clouds and i see the only hole so i fly through

01:06:06.590 --> 01:06:09.210
the hole and now because i flew through that

01:06:09.210 --> 01:06:12.989
hole we're so far away from everything and i

01:06:12.989 --> 01:06:14.750
should have followed luke and went to the state

01:06:14.750 --> 01:06:16.690
patrol thing but i was like no i'm gonna make

01:06:16.690 --> 01:06:19.409
it just back and but so here's the video i made

01:06:19.409 --> 01:06:22.710
you though Can we play it for other people? Why

01:06:22.710 --> 01:06:26.750
don't you airdrop it to Jamie? Oh, yeah. Okay.

01:06:28.010 --> 01:06:33.329
Hold on. So let me airdrop. Isn't that funny,

01:06:33.389 --> 01:06:37.050
though? It's pretty wild. I just bummed out that

01:06:37.050 --> 01:06:41.269
I didn't get this before. Oh, well, yeah, so

01:06:41.269 --> 01:06:43.510
I was going to, like, post it or something, and

01:06:43.510 --> 01:06:45.489
I asked him if I should, and he's like, well,

01:06:45.510 --> 01:06:47.030
wait, because maybe you'll just do the show.

01:06:47.170 --> 01:06:49.809
So I think that's why he didn't, maybe, or something.

01:06:54.169 --> 01:06:56.130
Maybe it got lost in the email or something.

01:06:56.190 --> 01:06:59.610
It might have gotten to one of those. The email

01:06:59.610 --> 01:07:02.570
dumps get pretty big sometimes. The point where

01:07:02.570 --> 01:07:06.090
I can't keep up. Is it Young James? Young Jamie.

01:07:07.570 --> 01:07:11.429
Young James. Okay, so that's that one. But then

01:07:11.429 --> 01:07:13.230
I'm going to show you the rest of the shot, but

01:07:13.230 --> 01:07:14.929
you might have to scroll through it to get to

01:07:14.929 --> 01:07:19.840
it. But by the way, it's the most amazing. So

01:07:19.840 --> 01:07:22.119
I'll show you the rest of that shot, and then

01:07:22.119 --> 01:07:23.980
you'll see where he landed and where I landed.

01:07:24.099 --> 01:07:27.199
So I'm going to send you first the pretty version

01:07:27.199 --> 01:07:29.900
of it. You guys can, like, cut through or whatever,

01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:32.380
right? Sure. Okay. So I'm going to edit. I'm

01:07:32.380 --> 01:07:34.500
going to just send you, like, the full, and then

01:07:34.500 --> 01:07:41.730
you'll look through. So here's another one. When

01:07:41.730 --> 01:07:44.389
is this one supposed to be? In two weeks. In

01:07:44.389 --> 01:07:46.469
two weeks. Yeah. And do you have to take any

01:07:46.469 --> 01:07:49.809
consideration the wind, like with the current

01:07:49.809 --> 01:07:52.730
temperature? Oh, yeah. And that's why we can't,

01:07:52.730 --> 01:07:54.929
like, confirm a location because winds determine

01:07:54.929 --> 01:07:57.730
everything. So even though now I'm at, like,

01:07:58.150 --> 01:08:02.070
you know, almost 400 jumps, the winds still decide

01:08:02.070 --> 01:08:05.090
where you go. Oh, here. All right. Here we go.

01:08:06.250 --> 01:08:08.550
Did you get that other one? I've only got one.

01:08:08.730 --> 01:08:10.150
Okay. Just want to make sure. This is the one

01:08:10.150 --> 01:08:12.090
you want me to play? Well, that's the first one.

01:08:12.190 --> 01:08:15.250
So I can do this airdrop comeback? Sure. Okay.

01:08:16.369 --> 01:08:38.819
Okay, check this out. Oh, Jesus Christ. Okay,

01:08:38.920 --> 01:08:41.579
but so you see the clouds. Now, hold on. This

01:08:41.579 --> 01:08:43.600
one's going to come. So you're hanging on to

01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:45.779
a plane. How high are you there? No, that was

01:08:45.779 --> 01:08:48.140
just, I don't know, like 13 ,000 or something.

01:08:48.199 --> 01:08:52.119
Oh, nothing. No, but I went to 25 ,000. I know.

01:08:52.119 --> 01:08:54.399
I remember. You tell me. Yeah. Yeah, but still.

01:08:54.960 --> 01:08:57.119
You're still 13 ,000 feet off the air hanging

01:08:57.119 --> 01:08:59.960
on to a plane and you jump off. Maybe it's another

01:08:59.960 --> 01:09:02.880
one. Maybe it's this one. It's hilarious that

01:09:02.880 --> 01:09:05.819
you're like, oh, it's only 13 ,000 feet. Hang

01:09:05.819 --> 01:09:08.920
on to the wing of a plane that I let go on video.

01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:14.420
I know, but you need to see. I can't play it

01:09:14.420 --> 01:09:15.899
here, though, right, and show you like this.

01:09:15.939 --> 01:09:17.699
We have to airdrop because it's going slow. Airdrop

01:09:17.699 --> 01:09:20.359
is better because it's going slow. Well, I just

01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:22.979
want to send this one that shows, like, how spectacular.

01:09:23.140 --> 01:09:24.840
But I could just send this one that's not as

01:09:24.840 --> 01:09:27.380
big, which explains what's going on. So hold

01:09:27.380 --> 01:09:30.020
on. Which one? Because there's three young James.

01:09:30.319 --> 01:09:33.189
The MacBook Pro. Young Jamie. But there's three

01:09:33.189 --> 01:09:35.210
MVP. It doesn't matter. Just click one, and it

01:09:35.210 --> 01:09:38.630
should work. Now, when you decide to do something

01:09:38.630 --> 01:09:41.850
like this, do you get an inspiration, and then

01:09:41.850 --> 01:09:46.069
you consult people to see if it's feasible? Well,

01:09:46.250 --> 01:09:48.989
so that's where I was lucky. So what I was saying

01:09:48.989 --> 01:09:51.630
is I come up with the idea, and then I find a

01:09:51.630 --> 01:09:53.569
guy. His name is Jonathan Trapp. He's the one

01:09:53.569 --> 01:09:55.130
that tried to cross the Atlantic with helium

01:09:55.130 --> 01:09:57.920
-filled balloons. And but I mean, he has it's

01:09:57.920 --> 01:10:00.399
like a full system. He has a basket. So it's

01:10:00.399 --> 01:10:02.739
like a real balloon, like a hot air balloon system

01:10:02.739 --> 01:10:05.840
with so nobody's. ever done it where they just

01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:08.939
float where their bodies are the basket you know

01:10:08.939 --> 01:10:11.340
what i mean so he had the whole system and then

01:10:11.340 --> 01:10:12.819
he came and tested out and i was like could i

01:10:12.819 --> 01:10:14.739
go try it like this and he's like no we're not

01:10:14.739 --> 01:10:17.380
ready you'll kill yourself or whatever you're

01:10:17.380 --> 01:10:19.720
hanging on to the rope yeah but i'm gonna make

01:10:19.720 --> 01:10:22.260
sure that i i'm not gonna have a parachute on

01:10:22.260 --> 01:10:24.579
and i'm gonna i'll i'll have a system so i'm

01:10:24.579 --> 01:10:27.220
completely secure so i'm not gonna fall off but

01:10:27.220 --> 01:10:29.319
i'm not gonna wear the parachute because i don't

01:10:29.319 --> 01:10:32.119
want to be I want it to look like a kid just

01:10:32.119 --> 01:10:34.640
holding on to balloons. So that visual is the

01:10:34.640 --> 01:10:37.000
important part. So the parachute's up in the

01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:42.000
balloons. But once I get above like 1 ,000 feet

01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:44.460
or so, I'm going to put the parachute on in the

01:10:44.460 --> 01:10:46.199
air. So you're going to put the parachute on

01:10:46.199 --> 01:10:48.199
while you're up there. Yeah, and then I want

01:10:48.199 --> 01:10:55.180
to see how high I can go. See? How high do you

01:10:55.180 --> 01:10:59.350
think you can go? Well, so the highest thing

01:10:59.350 --> 01:11:02.890
on earth is Mount Everest. Right. So that's kind

01:11:02.890 --> 01:11:06.050
of my goal. But I have to be careful because

01:11:06.050 --> 01:11:10.449
if you don't come back down, you're dead. So

01:11:10.449 --> 01:11:14.130
if you can't get down from there, that zone is

01:11:14.130 --> 01:11:17.529
like the death zone. So from like 25 ,000 to

01:11:17.529 --> 01:11:20.630
30 ,000 is very, very dangerous. You can black

01:11:20.630 --> 01:11:23.409
out like this. I'm going to do a couple more

01:11:23.409 --> 01:11:25.850
hypoxic tests and see if I'm right. I'll have

01:11:25.850 --> 01:11:28.529
emergency stuff up there like oxygen if I need

01:11:28.529 --> 01:11:30.189
it, but I don't want to use it. Floating around

01:11:30.189 --> 01:11:32.210
with you. Up there in the balloons. Yeah, we

01:11:32.210 --> 01:11:36.170
have like the – the way it's not. Dude, your

01:11:36.170 --> 01:11:39.810
loved ones panic when you start plotting things

01:11:39.810 --> 01:11:42.640
like this? My daughter asks questions. How old

01:11:42.640 --> 01:11:45.359
is she? Nine. And she has great questions. And

01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:48.319
the plate, the tail number of the plate is for

01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:50.779
me and her. So it's N for number, but nine for

01:11:50.779 --> 01:11:54.180
her age, 47 for my age. And then DB for me and

01:11:54.180 --> 01:11:57.159
her. We're both Dessa and David Blaine. But which

01:11:57.159 --> 01:12:01.159
is the balloon that has I made. This has to be

01:12:01.159 --> 01:12:03.180
a registered aircraft. So we had to get it registered.

01:12:03.439 --> 01:12:05.899
We had to fly it up. We had to prove that it's

01:12:05.899 --> 01:12:08.239
completely safe. We had to land it with nobody

01:12:08.239 --> 01:12:11.800
on it. So the body. One time that I went wasn't

01:12:11.800 --> 01:12:14.119
me. It was sand that weighed exactly what I weighed.

01:12:14.279 --> 01:12:17.199
We had to remote. Dump the sand. We had to use

01:12:17.199 --> 01:12:20.359
squibs to remote pop the balloons, fly it over.

01:12:20.500 --> 01:12:23.520
And this is at 22 ,000 feet. And squibs, what

01:12:23.520 --> 01:12:25.199
is controlling it? It pops a balloon. But is

01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:27.819
it radio? Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And I have

01:12:27.819 --> 01:12:30.000
the whole team helping me that did like Alan

01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:32.020
Eustace when he jumped and Felix Baumgartner

01:12:32.020 --> 01:12:33.739
when he jumped from the edge of space. So we

01:12:33.739 --> 01:12:36.239
have Don Day, the best meteorologist. And do

01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:38.739
they have to weigh you before you get on? Oh,

01:12:38.739 --> 01:12:41.420
yeah, it's precision. It's precision. And then.

01:12:42.029 --> 01:12:44.390
So we had to fly it all the way up to 22 ,000

01:12:44.390 --> 01:12:46.890
feet as proof that this aircraft is actually

01:12:46.890 --> 01:12:50.270
completely doable. And then remote land it exactly

01:12:50.270 --> 01:12:52.789
where Dande predicted we were going to land it.

01:12:52.810 --> 01:12:55.069
And we've done that multiple times. We've flown

01:12:55.069 --> 01:12:58.890
it. We've deployed the imitation. There's a massive

01:12:58.890 --> 01:13:02.010
amount of time involved in constructing one of

01:13:02.010 --> 01:13:05.649
these things and orchestrating it. Time and team.

01:13:05.810 --> 01:13:09.989
And team is everything. So it'd be like you when

01:13:09.989 --> 01:13:11.949
you have like the best trainers, if you had like

01:13:11.949 --> 01:13:16.369
your five best in the world, like tweaking you

01:13:16.369 --> 01:13:19.550
before fights like that. So when you plan on

01:13:19.550 --> 01:13:21.649
doing something like this, did you bring this

01:13:21.649 --> 01:13:24.189
up to these folks? These are the first people,

01:13:24.310 --> 01:13:26.350
the people that you're doing it with. These are

01:13:26.350 --> 01:13:27.550
the people that you brought it up to the first

01:13:27.550 --> 01:13:29.390
time. Yeah. Nobody said, get the fuck out of

01:13:29.390 --> 01:13:31.250
here with this? Nope. Went straight to YouTube

01:13:31.250 --> 01:13:33.010
and I was like, I have this idea. So you went

01:13:33.010 --> 01:13:35.770
to these guys and did they hesitate at all? No.

01:13:35.829 --> 01:13:40.890
They're amazing. Or crazy. Right. It is also

01:13:40.890 --> 01:13:43.569
crazy because it is just a hypothetical idea

01:13:43.569 --> 01:13:46.029
that's insane. That's true. And they did let

01:13:46.029 --> 01:13:48.229
me like – but there were stages. I had to prove

01:13:48.229 --> 01:13:50.289
each step. So I had to prove that, number one,

01:13:50.470 --> 01:13:53.189
the balloon is doable. Number two, I'm not going

01:13:53.189 --> 01:13:55.430
to hopefully kill myself. Number three, I can

01:13:55.430 --> 01:13:58.289
actually get the – oh, and then for the skydives,

01:13:58.289 --> 01:14:00.750
by the way, because I had to get 500 jumps really

01:14:00.750 --> 01:14:03.069
quick. And this is all during the last year,

01:14:03.170 --> 01:14:06.659
right? So insurance wouldn't cover that. I mean,

01:14:06.659 --> 01:14:08.619
they would cover, but it's not affordable. So

01:14:08.619 --> 01:14:11.640
I had to do five, almost 500, 400 jumps or so

01:14:11.640 --> 01:14:13.840
with no insurance. You know what I mean? And

01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:16.180
so that's a whole separate thing that's not related.

01:14:16.340 --> 01:14:19.680
So I had to go do them for my own as fun and

01:14:19.680 --> 01:14:22.659
do everything through my own. You see what I

01:14:22.659 --> 01:14:25.920
mean? So it's crazy. It's all nuts. And because

01:14:25.920 --> 01:14:27.479
you think of skydiving, you think like, oh, you

01:14:27.479 --> 01:14:29.199
have the best coach. It's fine. But there's still

01:14:29.199 --> 01:14:32.020
like when you're trying to do 15 jumps a day,

01:14:32.100 --> 01:14:35.479
it's like you can. do what I did, which is try

01:14:35.479 --> 01:14:37.520
to avoid hitting an airplane in a hangar and

01:14:37.520 --> 01:14:40.000
turn too low and come whacking down. And when

01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:44.000
did you come up with this idea? I mean, I think

01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:46.159
it was like inspired when I was a kid. I think

01:14:46.159 --> 01:14:48.420
like the idea of like the little boy drifting

01:14:48.420 --> 01:14:50.899
balloon. So I think it was like, but I never

01:14:50.899 --> 01:14:54.340
really thought of it as a reality. But then 15

01:14:54.340 --> 01:14:56.699
years ago or so, I had drawings made of it. So

01:14:56.699 --> 01:14:58.340
I started having, I'll show you the drawings.

01:14:58.420 --> 01:15:00.380
I can't open it on there or whatever. So when

01:15:00.380 --> 01:15:04.430
did you put it into motion? It was never even

01:15:04.430 --> 01:15:06.930
possible until YouTube said, OK, we'll back this

01:15:06.930 --> 01:15:08.989
because the idea is like all of my other stunts.

01:15:08.989 --> 01:15:12.270
There's like the budget's pretty very, you know,

01:15:12.289 --> 01:15:14.529
not you couldn't afford to do something like

01:15:14.529 --> 01:15:17.170
this. This is to build, test the flight, build

01:15:17.170 --> 01:15:20.149
an actual aircraft, fly it, land it, get all

01:15:20.149 --> 01:15:22.369
the jumps, learn how to do everything, get all

01:15:22.369 --> 01:15:24.949
the skill set. So this is but that's the first

01:15:24.949 --> 01:15:29.739
drawing. Oh, wow. Yeah. So you drew this when

01:15:29.739 --> 01:15:31.800
you were... I didn't draw it. Oh, someone else

01:15:31.800 --> 01:15:34.000
did. Yeah, Mark Stutzman, who's an amazing artist

01:15:34.000 --> 01:15:36.000
that did my poster for this thing, which I'll

01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:38.359
show you. Can I send this to Jamie? Yeah, it's

01:15:38.359 --> 01:15:40.460
not working, but you can try. Airdrop's not working?

01:15:41.260 --> 01:15:42.880
I noticed something weird was happening when

01:15:42.880 --> 01:15:44.899
he was trying to do it. But maybe the picture

01:15:44.899 --> 01:15:48.779
will go. If not, I can restart the phone and

01:15:48.779 --> 01:15:53.180
maybe it'll work. Was it showing up for you,

01:15:53.220 --> 01:15:56.319
Jamie? No, right? Let me restart the phone. There's

01:15:56.319 --> 01:16:01.350
a lot of... Okay, now it says it's waiting. There's

01:16:01.350 --> 01:16:03.390
like so many MacBook Pros. You got it? Yeah,

01:16:03.390 --> 01:16:05.789
there's three. Oh, it went? Yeah, that one went

01:16:05.789 --> 01:16:07.770
through. Okay, then I'll also send. Oh, but wait.

01:16:07.810 --> 01:16:09.710
So should I also show you the poster that I had

01:16:09.710 --> 01:16:16.109
made? Sure. Okay. So you come to YouTube, powerful

01:16:16.109 --> 01:16:18.250
YouTube. They come up with this idea. I mean,

01:16:18.250 --> 01:16:20.329
they agree with this idea. They're just amazing.

01:16:20.829 --> 01:16:22.829
That's the original, but this is the latest one.

01:16:24.010 --> 01:16:29.470
Did you send that one to him too? I'll send it

01:16:29.470 --> 01:16:32.890
to you, Jeremy. It's coming through right now,

01:16:32.949 --> 01:16:36.270
supposedly. It's like I have to accept them for

01:16:36.270 --> 01:16:40.350
some reason. It doesn't just go. Is it showing

01:16:40.350 --> 01:16:43.670
up for you? No? I think I should restart the

01:16:43.670 --> 01:16:45.729
phone because those videos, too, I want to send.

01:16:46.029 --> 01:16:48.649
There it goes. Okay. How did you get it to go,

01:16:48.689 --> 01:16:50.329
though? Which one did you press? I don't know.

01:16:50.590 --> 01:16:52.090
There's so many of them. It doesn't make any

01:16:52.090 --> 01:16:55.329
sense. Your phone is being monitored by the government.

01:16:55.489 --> 01:16:58.720
They're cloning. Hold on. I want to try to send

01:16:58.720 --> 01:17:00.939
this video so I could explain making your video

01:17:00.939 --> 01:17:09.479
if that's possible. Oh, now it's preparing it.

01:17:09.539 --> 01:17:12.819
Okay, beautiful. Now it's going through? You

01:17:12.819 --> 01:17:16.319
have it coming right now? Because it says it's

01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:18.340
converting, so it might be coming. We're waiting

01:17:18.340 --> 01:17:22.140
for an accept on this. Okay. As soon as I get

01:17:22.140 --> 01:17:26.069
that. You bring this to YouTube. How long ago

01:17:26.069 --> 01:17:30.640
was it? Like a year and a half ago or something

01:17:30.640 --> 01:17:32.420
like that. They say, yay, let's do it. We're

01:17:32.420 --> 01:17:36.380
fucking crazy. Yeah. And also, it's probably

01:17:36.380 --> 01:17:38.359
going to have 100 million people watch it. So

01:17:38.359 --> 01:17:39.979
it seems like a good idea. I don't know. I don't

01:17:39.979 --> 01:17:42.260
know about that. Oh, I do. I don't know. Are

01:17:42.260 --> 01:17:43.600
you going to float around in a fucking balloon

01:17:43.600 --> 01:17:46.260
hanging on? A lot of people are going to watch

01:17:46.260 --> 01:17:48.800
it, man. I don't know if that's true. Oh, I'll

01:17:48.800 --> 01:17:52.319
bet on it. But this one by far is my favorite

01:17:52.319 --> 01:17:54.630
that I've ever done. It's the most. visual the

01:17:54.630 --> 01:17:57.670
most colorful it's the first one that i've ever

01:17:57.670 --> 01:17:59.930
done where my friends are like i want to do that

01:17:59.930 --> 01:18:02.850
they're not like why do you do that you know

01:18:02.850 --> 01:18:04.609
what i mean you're holding on but you know all

01:18:04.609 --> 01:18:07.489
the other sense i do people are like like that's

01:18:07.489 --> 01:18:09.430
it's great that you're doing it but that's crazy

01:18:09.430 --> 01:18:11.710
or why are you doing it this one they're like

01:18:11.710 --> 01:18:15.329
i want to ride the balloons Because it's such

01:18:15.329 --> 01:18:19.529
a childhood. Yeah. So it'll be like that. Wow.

01:18:19.750 --> 01:18:21.909
That's pretty cool. So it'll look just like that.

01:18:22.069 --> 01:18:26.250
Are you harnessed? Yeah, it'll be like a little

01:18:26.250 --> 01:18:28.909
thing that connects at my wrist, which like the

01:18:28.909 --> 01:18:31.590
way the airless have a connection. And then it's

01:18:31.590 --> 01:18:34.470
connected to your body, your torso somehow? Yeah,

01:18:34.510 --> 01:18:36.689
it'll be connected somewhat. Through your crotch?

01:18:36.869 --> 01:18:39.329
Yeah, hopefully. It's a nightmare, something.

01:18:39.510 --> 01:18:41.409
Yeah, because when you get up to like minus,

01:18:41.590 --> 01:18:45.779
you know. 20 degrees or whatever, you'll be non

01:18:45.779 --> 01:18:48.060
-functional up there. So you can't just rely.

01:18:48.300 --> 01:18:50.319
Well, you can't really rely on your hand anyway

01:18:50.319 --> 01:18:53.479
after a certain point. No, no, no. If I had to

01:18:53.479 --> 01:18:56.720
do this up to like 2 ,000 to 3 ,000 feet, I could.

01:18:57.140 --> 01:18:59.859
Holding on. Yeah, you can ascend. You can also

01:18:59.859 --> 01:19:02.760
just put something around your foot like the

01:19:02.760 --> 01:19:05.039
wires could come down. Okay, so something around

01:19:05.039 --> 01:19:07.000
your foot would be just to take some of the weight

01:19:07.000 --> 01:19:09.380
off. Just to help. Yeah, so it's doable. But

01:19:09.380 --> 01:19:13.780
how long can you actually hang though? Like,

01:19:13.780 --> 01:19:15.939
it's really hard to hang for more than a couple

01:19:15.939 --> 01:19:18.100
of minutes. It's hard to hang for more than a

01:19:18.100 --> 01:19:19.840
minute. I think, like, the record is, like, two

01:19:19.840 --> 01:19:22.359
minutes. What? With one hand, you mean? Yeah,

01:19:22.359 --> 01:19:24.239
with one hand. Oh, okay. But this has to look

01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:28.560
like the one -handed image of a person floating.

01:19:28.720 --> 01:19:31.039
It has to be exact. Right. You'd have to have

01:19:31.039 --> 01:19:33.680
some freaky forearms, Popeye style. Yeah. So

01:19:33.680 --> 01:19:36.520
I'll have assistance built. So I won't have a

01:19:36.520 --> 01:19:38.720
parachute or any of that stuff. That'll be above

01:19:38.720 --> 01:19:40.880
me. So it'll look really clean. But I'll be supported.

01:19:41.920 --> 01:19:44.640
If there's a balloon failure or something like

01:19:44.640 --> 01:19:48.560
that, obviously I'm in trouble. Obviously. But

01:19:48.560 --> 01:19:51.119
once I get the parachute on, once I get to 5

01:19:51.119 --> 01:19:54.020
,000 feet, then we know, okay, he's not going

01:19:54.020 --> 01:19:56.439
to die. He has a parachute on. I can get away.

01:19:56.859 --> 01:19:59.000
And now the big challenge is how high can he

01:19:59.000 --> 01:20:03.520
go? So once you get – how are you going to know?

01:20:03.560 --> 01:20:06.409
Do you have an altimeter on the – I'll have an

01:20:06.409 --> 01:20:08.770
altimeter, but I'm also going to have a communication.

01:20:09.090 --> 01:20:11.890
I'll have full everything. So I'm going to have

01:20:11.890 --> 01:20:14.630
cameras with me. Are you using a watch for the

01:20:14.630 --> 01:20:17.449
altimeter? What are you using? Well, I'm using

01:20:17.449 --> 01:20:19.430
this one called Dekunu right now, but it's big.

01:20:19.609 --> 01:20:22.949
No, but I've been jumping with Suunto's and things

01:20:22.949 --> 01:20:25.729
just to check. how accurate they are and they're

01:20:25.729 --> 01:20:28.430
not bad they're like off by like 200 feet or

01:20:28.430 --> 01:20:30.850
something like that but on the landing you don't

01:20:30.850 --> 01:20:32.609
want to be off you know especially if you're

01:20:32.609 --> 01:20:35.310
like me you don't even you only have 400 jumps

01:20:35.310 --> 01:20:38.289
not even right right so and you're landing in

01:20:38.289 --> 01:20:40.010
dicey areas because you don't know where you

01:20:40.010 --> 01:20:43.170
are right A gust of wind can throw you here or

01:20:43.170 --> 01:20:45.029
there. Yeah, anything. But you also have to,

01:20:45.029 --> 01:20:47.250
like, not hit a power line or a building or an

01:20:47.250 --> 01:20:49.409
obstacle or anything, wherever you are, right?

01:20:49.529 --> 01:20:51.710
If you come down into a mountain, you're going

01:20:51.710 --> 01:20:53.729
to whack into that. It looks flat from here,

01:20:53.770 --> 01:20:55.170
but if you didn't adjust, you're going to come

01:20:55.170 --> 01:20:57.029
in hard and that's it. You'll eat it, right?

01:20:57.170 --> 01:20:59.930
If you hit a power line, you're dead. So, yeah,

01:20:59.970 --> 01:21:02.810
those types of things we have to, like, and which

01:21:02.810 --> 01:21:05.810
is why when I'm controlling the balloons and

01:21:05.810 --> 01:21:10.590
going up and up and up and up and up, I'm going

01:21:10.590 --> 01:21:14.829
to hopefully be five. Hopefully. You're scaring

01:21:14.829 --> 01:21:17.130
the shit out of me already. So at 5 ,000 feet,

01:21:17.350 --> 01:21:20.609
how do you get the parachute? It's up there in

01:21:20.609 --> 01:21:22.710
the balloons and I'm going to pull it down. It's

01:21:22.710 --> 01:21:25.229
on like a fishing wire thing. I pull it down

01:21:25.229 --> 01:21:28.250
and then I put it on. That's the only like really

01:21:28.250 --> 01:21:30.250
difficult thing. Have you done this already?

01:21:30.350 --> 01:21:32.189
You've practiced that aspect of it? I've practiced

01:21:32.189 --> 01:21:34.250
it and that's like really scary to everybody

01:21:34.250 --> 01:21:36.890
around. Oh, yeah. They're asking me why won't

01:21:36.890 --> 01:21:39.149
I just wear the thing, like everybody. Yeah.

01:21:39.479 --> 01:21:42.659
They're like, you have to wear it. And you don't

01:21:42.659 --> 01:21:44.659
want to wear it. And my brother's really obsessed

01:21:44.659 --> 01:21:46.539
with it. My daughter's new question is how come

01:21:46.539 --> 01:21:48.659
you're not wearing the parachute? But I'm telling

01:21:48.659 --> 01:21:53.100
her it's fine. But you haven't, have you done

01:21:53.100 --> 01:21:55.399
this transition yet where you go from floating

01:21:55.399 --> 01:21:57.939
to putting the parachute on? No, that'll be done

01:21:57.939 --> 01:22:01.300
live the first time. Oh, Jesus. This whole thing

01:22:01.300 --> 01:22:03.399
will be done the first time live and I've never

01:22:03.399 --> 01:22:05.560
done it in completion. I've done all the elements

01:22:05.560 --> 01:22:08.619
of it. So I've done the jumps. Done the balloon

01:22:08.619 --> 01:22:10.739
flights. I've flown the rig, but I've never put

01:22:10.739 --> 01:22:12.619
it all together. That's all going to happen for

01:22:12.619 --> 01:22:18.439
the first time live on YouTube. Oh, my God. And

01:22:18.439 --> 01:22:21.279
so once you get the vest on, once you get the

01:22:21.279 --> 01:22:24.779
parachute on, then the goal is to see how high

01:22:24.779 --> 01:22:26.840
you can get up. Yeah, that's the part that I'm

01:22:26.840 --> 01:22:28.800
obsessed with. When you get to the area of 30

01:22:28.800 --> 01:22:31.199
,000 plus feet. No, no, you can't cross there.

01:22:31.460 --> 01:22:34.119
You can't. I just want to get – the goal is if

01:22:34.119 --> 01:22:38.880
I get up to like 20 – 5 ,000 feet, I'm excited.

01:22:39.180 --> 01:22:40.979
Okay. Because that's where the ice, I want to

01:22:40.979 --> 01:22:43.039
disappear, like I actually want the visual to

01:22:43.039 --> 01:22:48.199
be that I disappear into the sky. Okay. So you

01:22:48.199 --> 01:22:49.659
get up to 25 ,000. But I'm not going to kill

01:22:49.659 --> 01:22:53.159
myself doing it. I hope not. I won't. Okay. I

01:22:53.159 --> 01:22:55.359
believe you. But this one is different than the

01:22:55.359 --> 01:22:56.939
ice. I'm going to have the O2 things. By the

01:22:56.939 --> 01:22:59.859
way, you can't send the O2. Pulse oximeter signals

01:22:59.859 --> 01:23:02.260
down, so they won't know if I'm hypoxic, but

01:23:02.260 --> 01:23:03.960
I'm going to have the O2 monitors in my pocket.

01:23:04.119 --> 01:23:06.060
I'm going to put them on. I'm going to show them

01:23:06.060 --> 01:23:08.119
to the camera. They can still communicate with

01:23:08.119 --> 01:23:11.119
you? Yeah. Now, if they can't, that's a big issue.

01:23:11.239 --> 01:23:13.979
So if communication fails, then this is, for

01:23:13.979 --> 01:23:17.939
me— Communication is done through what? RF, this

01:23:17.939 --> 01:23:20.680
incredible guy that builds all of the communication

01:23:20.680 --> 01:23:24.420
for every skydiving stunt movie. The same way

01:23:24.420 --> 01:23:26.239
that a plane can communicate with the ground.

01:23:27.020 --> 01:23:31.199
Yeah. Something. Yeah. And I have a transponder

01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:33.180
up here. I have everything. So the planes, I'm

01:23:33.180 --> 01:23:36.260
visible. Everybody knows where I am. We're clearing

01:23:36.260 --> 01:23:38.680
everything with the FAA, the ATC. So everything

01:23:38.680 --> 01:23:41.920
is going to be completely organized as it needs

01:23:41.920 --> 01:23:44.039
to be. We have a wind path in every location

01:23:44.039 --> 01:23:46.680
that we're going to possibly do this in. Of course,

01:23:46.720 --> 01:23:49.220
New York is a dream, and there's some other dreams

01:23:49.220 --> 01:23:53.399
that we have. We have a couple of key points

01:23:53.399 --> 01:23:56.920
that we're dreaming about doing this. Depending

01:23:56.920 --> 01:23:58.699
on wind and weather, that's where we'll do it.

01:23:58.760 --> 01:24:04.739
And how do you descend? Just let go of some?

01:24:05.180 --> 01:24:07.000
You're just going to completely drop off? Yeah,

01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:08.600
just release myself. So you're going to skydive

01:24:08.600 --> 01:24:13.189
at 25 ,000 feet? Yeah. By the way, I told you

01:24:13.189 --> 01:24:15.630
when I did that test, when I went up to almost

01:24:15.630 --> 01:24:20.229
24 -7 or whatever, I had the helmet on. The first

01:24:20.229 --> 01:24:23.010
breath I took, the entire thing was ice right

01:24:23.010 --> 01:24:25.590
away. And I was flying down looking through like

01:24:25.590 --> 01:24:28.329
a little hole in the helmet. I couldn't see.

01:24:30.569 --> 01:24:36.100
Jesus Christ. And so. When you land, you have

01:24:36.100 --> 01:24:39.439
to land, I mean, from 25 ,000 feet, you have

01:24:39.439 --> 01:24:41.300
to make sure that you're conscious. You have

01:24:41.300 --> 01:24:42.880
to make sure that you can see. That's right.

01:24:43.079 --> 01:24:45.920
But usually, by the way, even if you are hypoxic

01:24:45.920 --> 01:24:49.300
and you're dropping, you clear up at like 10

01:24:49.300 --> 01:24:53.600
,000 feet. So Luke Akins, who you watch, he did

01:24:53.600 --> 01:24:57.239
a jump once where he was jumping with Felix Bumgarner,

01:24:57.279 --> 01:25:01.539
who he trained. And he was... He was hypoxic.

01:25:01.539 --> 01:25:03.659
He was blacked out. But when he got to about

01:25:03.659 --> 01:25:07.180
9 ,000 feet or so, he woke up. Yeah, but from

01:25:07.180 --> 01:25:10.220
9 ,000 feet down, you have 40 seconds to figure

01:25:10.220 --> 01:25:12.720
out where you are and what you're doing. Okay.

01:25:15.699 --> 01:25:20.659
It still seems fucking terrifying. And so then

01:25:20.659 --> 01:25:24.460
you're floating down, and you have to find a

01:25:24.460 --> 01:25:26.840
good spot to land. And when are you going to

01:25:26.840 --> 01:25:28.939
do this? Like what's the official launch date?

01:25:29.020 --> 01:25:32.479
Is it August 31? 100%. Depending on wins. Depending

01:25:32.479 --> 01:25:34.260
on wins. So if the wins are fucked on August

01:25:34.260 --> 01:25:35.680
31st, you push it a little bit. Yeah, exactly.

01:25:35.819 --> 01:25:37.859
And that's the other thing YouTube's been amazing

01:25:37.859 --> 01:25:40.600
on. There it is. David Blaine, Ascension, YouTube

01:25:40.600 --> 01:25:43.460
Originals, August 31st. Yeah, that's basically

01:25:43.460 --> 01:25:44.819
what it's called. I love that YouTube stepped

01:25:44.819 --> 01:25:47.880
up to do this. Yeah, it is amazing. It is amazing.

01:25:48.100 --> 01:25:50.100
Look at you floating above the cloud in that

01:25:50.100 --> 01:25:51.520
image. And that's literally what you're going

01:25:51.520 --> 01:25:55.779
to be doing. Yeah. That's so fucked. But also

01:25:55.779 --> 01:25:58.159
the thing about this one, aside from like the

01:25:58.159 --> 01:26:02.359
technical part of it, is like the visual on it

01:26:02.359 --> 01:26:05.500
so far is my favorite one. Yeah. It's like Up.

01:26:05.640 --> 01:26:07.560
Like when they did it with the animated movie.

01:26:07.899 --> 01:26:09.640
But when I look at the balloons, I become like

01:26:09.640 --> 01:26:11.659
giddy. Like and all these adults are working

01:26:11.659 --> 01:26:13.199
and we're all like laughing because we're like

01:26:13.199 --> 01:26:16.619
kids playing with balloons, you know? It's like,

01:26:16.640 --> 01:26:19.520
it's iconic. It's something that every kid has

01:26:19.520 --> 01:26:22.250
kind of thought of. Yeah. Yeah. Grabbing a balloon

01:26:22.250 --> 01:26:24.329
and flying to the air like Mary Poppins. Yeah.

01:26:24.329 --> 01:26:27.829
Yeah. Wow, man. And that was my daughter's nickname

01:26:27.829 --> 01:26:30.609
when she was growing up. We called Mary, the

01:26:30.609 --> 01:26:33.329
real Mary Poppins. She was a real Mary Poppins.

01:26:33.329 --> 01:26:35.409
We'd put a balloon up and we'd always watch it

01:26:35.409 --> 01:26:37.789
and dream and talk about where it goes and stuff

01:26:37.789 --> 01:26:41.619
like that. What is it like for her when you discuss

01:26:41.619 --> 01:26:44.239
these things with her? She's so amazing. I run

01:26:44.239 --> 01:26:47.779
ideas by her. Really? Yeah. She's amazing. By

01:26:47.779 --> 01:26:49.539
the way, the reason there's pink balloons in

01:26:49.539 --> 01:26:51.060
this one is because I was showing her all the

01:26:51.060 --> 01:26:53.239
balloons. Is there going to be pink? And I was

01:26:53.239 --> 01:26:54.640
like, of course there's going to be pink. And

01:26:54.640 --> 01:27:00.409
now there's pink. That's hilarious. Wow. Have

01:27:00.409 --> 01:27:02.609
you been doing live shows this whole time or

01:27:02.609 --> 01:27:05.170
are you able to with COVID? Not during COVID,

01:27:05.369 --> 01:27:07.750
no. But right up to COVID I was doing live. I

01:27:07.750 --> 01:27:10.170
haven't been promoting or anything, but it's

01:27:10.170 --> 01:27:12.069
like my favorite thing because I've been working

01:27:12.069 --> 01:27:16.430
on the live show for 20 -some years and I've

01:27:16.430 --> 01:27:19.989
never done one until like the last few years.

01:27:20.090 --> 01:27:22.670
It started like three years ago. It was the first

01:27:22.670 --> 01:27:26.149
time I did that, which is crazy, right? Yeah.

01:27:27.960 --> 01:27:30.479
I finally felt like I had the right material

01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:34.279
to make a good show. And the show is so – it's

01:27:34.279 --> 01:27:37.500
like I open it with the mouth sewing. So the

01:27:37.500 --> 01:27:39.720
first thing is like – but I bring people up so

01:27:39.720 --> 01:27:41.899
it's also comical. It's like funny, right? Like

01:27:41.899 --> 01:27:43.840
joking around and stuff. And you see people like,

01:27:43.859 --> 01:27:46.119
ah. Now, when you say mouth sewing, you actually

01:27:46.119 --> 01:27:48.750
sew your mouth shut. Yeah. And you do that how

01:27:48.750 --> 01:27:52.710
many nights a week? One? No. So I would do two

01:27:52.710 --> 01:27:55.550
days on, one day off. But every day of a show

01:27:55.550 --> 01:27:58.310
means you can't eat for 36 hours before the show

01:27:58.310 --> 01:28:00.689
because I also have to put a gallon of water

01:28:00.689 --> 01:28:02.649
in my stomach. I have to put a cup of kerosene.

01:28:03.390 --> 01:28:05.069
I don't swallow the kerosene. I put it in my

01:28:05.069 --> 01:28:06.750
mouth now and spit it. So I don't swallow it.

01:28:06.810 --> 01:28:10.029
But on Jimmy Kimmel, I drank this stuff. And

01:28:10.029 --> 01:28:12.310
it's like really, really – that's how the guy

01:28:12.310 --> 01:28:15.250
died, Haji Ali, that I told you. So now I just

01:28:15.250 --> 01:28:17.310
put it in my mouth, spit it. But see, and then

01:28:17.310 --> 01:28:19.550
I do the frogs in the stomach. I put the hanger

01:28:19.550 --> 01:28:21.649
all the way down the throat to fetch somebody's

01:28:21.649 --> 01:28:27.329
ring. I do the breath hold every single night.

01:28:27.689 --> 01:28:31.689
And then I have them push an ice pick through

01:28:31.689 --> 01:28:33.810
my arm every night, which is like you don't want

01:28:33.810 --> 01:28:36.369
to hit a brachial, you know, anything. A nerve.

01:28:36.750 --> 01:28:39.550
Yeah, or an artery or anything. Of course. And

01:28:39.550 --> 01:28:42.310
I let them choose a spot. By the way, I also

01:28:42.310 --> 01:28:44.770
brought the ice pick if you do want to see because

01:28:44.770 --> 01:28:47.710
I know that you know it's real. Oh, I believe

01:28:47.710 --> 01:28:49.750
it's real. But I still want to see it. I haven't

01:28:49.750 --> 01:28:52.729
done it since my tour. Really? Yeah. Are you

01:28:52.729 --> 01:28:55.649
itching to do it? I mean, I'd like you to do

01:28:55.649 --> 01:28:57.930
it. I'd like you to do it just to see that it

01:28:57.930 --> 01:29:00.229
is like pretty straightforward. Oh, I believe

01:29:00.229 --> 01:29:01.869
it's straightforward. But I brought one with

01:29:01.869 --> 01:29:04.310
me and I got the alcohol from that. So here is,

01:29:04.329 --> 01:29:08.560
look at that girl. Poor girl. And so you're stitching

01:29:08.560 --> 01:29:12.399
your mouth shut. But so see, so what I was able

01:29:12.399 --> 01:29:14.579
to do with the stage show is I bring people up

01:29:14.579 --> 01:29:16.300
on stage and I have the cameras with the big

01:29:16.300 --> 01:29:19.039
screen. So you see people reacting to this stuff.

01:29:19.039 --> 01:29:21.479
So it's the magic plus the reaction. So you get

01:29:21.479 --> 01:29:23.579
that whole. And this girl's really into it. Look

01:29:23.579 --> 01:29:29.890
at her. So you do this all the time? The stitching

01:29:29.890 --> 01:29:31.569
the mouth shut, I would imagine you would accumulate

01:29:31.569 --> 01:29:34.170
some scar tissue. No, that one's easy, but this

01:29:34.170 --> 01:29:36.090
one's legit. This one I used to do it through

01:29:36.090 --> 01:29:38.170
the hand. This is the ice way. This one I used

01:29:38.170 --> 01:29:40.329
to do through the hand, and I developed so much

01:29:40.329 --> 01:29:42.609
scar tissue that when I move my fingers a certain

01:29:42.609 --> 01:29:44.449
way, I get a shooting pain. So I stopped doing

01:29:44.449 --> 01:29:46.829
the hands, and I switched to here. That makes

01:29:46.829 --> 01:29:49.909
sense. I would imagine that would really fuck

01:29:49.909 --> 01:29:55.250
your hands up. Alcohol pads from your COVID test.

01:29:56.670 --> 01:29:59.369
So wait, so I might have to sit next to you or

01:29:59.369 --> 01:30:01.250
something. Do you want me to do this to you?

01:30:01.270 --> 01:30:02.949
Is this what's going on here? Yeah. I can come

01:30:02.949 --> 01:30:05.569
over to your side. Okay. Is that okay? Okay.

01:30:05.710 --> 01:30:08.109
All right. But wait, don't you need the, or you

01:30:08.109 --> 01:30:12.470
can put those on? I'll just come walk over. Should

01:30:12.470 --> 01:30:15.689
I take the thing off? You can if you'd like.

01:30:16.310 --> 01:30:18.789
We'll both be basically talking into the same

01:30:18.789 --> 01:30:20.789
microphone. No, but we can do it sitting. Yeah.

01:30:20.810 --> 01:30:26.710
But can you put those ones on? Yeah, sure. Jim,

01:30:26.710 --> 01:30:28.670
does this mic work? One second. Okay, Jim will

01:30:28.670 --> 01:30:30.869
turn this mic on. And I'll crank this thing over

01:30:30.869 --> 01:30:33.550
to here. Okay, so you choose the arm. Do you

01:30:33.550 --> 01:30:35.729
want the left or the right? Let's do the right

01:30:35.729 --> 01:30:39.270
since it's right next to me. Okay. Do you want

01:30:39.270 --> 01:30:42.010
them to come in and see it as well? No. Good

01:30:42.010 --> 01:30:46.489
enough. Okay, so now. This is not a new ice pick,

01:30:46.550 --> 01:30:48.649
and usually I do it with new ones, which means

01:30:48.649 --> 01:30:51.229
this isn't as sharp as it needs to be. So it

01:30:51.229 --> 01:30:53.489
means the push is going to be a little more difficult,

01:30:53.750 --> 01:30:56.210
I guess. Why do you like to do this? Are these

01:30:56.210 --> 01:30:59.050
ones that you give us, are these pure alcohol?

01:30:59.229 --> 01:31:03.430
Yes. Yes? I believe so. I mean, they're just

01:31:03.430 --> 01:31:05.250
the standard ones that you get. That's fine,

01:31:05.369 --> 01:31:08.609
I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you want to make

01:31:08.609 --> 01:31:10.029
sure there's no scent in it or anything? No,

01:31:10.029 --> 01:31:12.310
no, no. I want to make sure that there's no bacteria

01:31:12.310 --> 01:31:14.109
in it. Right, but I mean on the alcohol strip.

01:31:14.390 --> 01:31:17.810
Oh, yeah, exactly. Why do you enjoy this? You

01:31:17.810 --> 01:31:19.949
seem – you're excited about this. Well, first

01:31:19.949 --> 01:31:21.689
of all, it's amazing that you can actually do

01:31:21.689 --> 01:31:23.710
something like this like it's nothing. So there's

01:31:23.710 --> 01:31:27.010
a guy named Mirandayo. Can you pull up Mirandayo,

01:31:27.109 --> 01:31:30.560
you think? So Mirandayo, it's this guy, and nobody

01:31:30.560 --> 01:31:32.460
believed he was doing it for real. And he would

01:31:32.460 --> 01:31:35.859
take rapiers, and he would have them push right

01:31:35.859 --> 01:31:39.600
through the middle of his body, through his lungs

01:31:39.600 --> 01:31:42.060
and everything. He would show on all sides, and

01:31:42.060 --> 01:31:43.880
then they would pull him out, and he'd be perfectly

01:31:43.880 --> 01:31:47.239
fine. And every doctor would say, oh, you can't

01:31:47.239 --> 01:31:49.720
do that. So remember when Steve Irwin died? Do

01:31:49.720 --> 01:31:52.439
you know why he died? No. Because he pulled the

01:31:52.439 --> 01:31:54.279
stingray thing out of his heart. The stingray

01:31:54.279 --> 01:31:56.699
stabbed him, and he pulled it out, right? Crocodile.

01:31:57.079 --> 01:31:59.239
so if he kept it in there he would have lived

01:31:59.239 --> 01:32:02.300
right after that a 70 year old man was on his

01:32:02.300 --> 01:32:04.380
boat and a stingray jumped up out of the water

01:32:04.380 --> 01:32:07.420
stung him in the heart and then stingray was

01:32:07.420 --> 01:32:11.920
gone but oh i didn't even yeah oh my god look

01:32:11.920 --> 01:32:15.159
at that Isn't that crazy? But the fact that you

01:32:15.159 --> 01:32:17.840
can actually do this is what's crazy. Like the

01:32:17.840 --> 01:32:20.800
body can, with your mind, you can override it.

01:32:20.880 --> 01:32:23.380
And then the thing is, he got so cocky, though,

01:32:23.500 --> 01:32:25.979
that he thought he could do anything. And then

01:32:25.979 --> 01:32:28.500
he ate one of these things. He swallowed it and

01:32:28.500 --> 01:32:30.640
it killed him. He bled internally and died. But

01:32:30.640 --> 01:32:32.800
see, he got really cocky because he was like,

01:32:32.819 --> 01:32:35.939
I can do anything. That is fucking insane. Is

01:32:35.939 --> 01:32:38.859
he going through his liver? He can go through

01:32:38.859 --> 01:32:40.600
anything, and that's what I'm saying. So the

01:32:40.600 --> 01:32:44.319
70 -year -old guy that got the stingray, it stabbed

01:32:44.319 --> 01:32:47.159
him in the heart. Instead of pulling it out,

01:32:47.220 --> 01:32:49.760
which it's like a cork strew, he waited with

01:32:49.760 --> 01:32:52.720
doctors until it beat out the other side, and

01:32:52.720 --> 01:32:58.359
he was fine. You see? Wow. Instead of pulling

01:32:58.359 --> 01:33:01.060
it out, he waited until what happened? The doctors

01:33:01.060 --> 01:33:02.979
waited, and with the heart, they let it beat

01:33:02.979 --> 01:33:05.319
out the other side, and they slowly let it come

01:33:05.319 --> 01:33:07.600
out. It went through his whole body? If they

01:33:07.600 --> 01:33:09.399
would have pulled it, it's like a corkscrew.

01:33:09.439 --> 01:33:12.439
It would rip him apart. He would die. How long

01:33:12.439 --> 01:33:13.659
did it take for it to beat through his body?

01:33:13.659 --> 01:33:15.500
I don't know, but I know that the doctors, what

01:33:15.500 --> 01:33:17.279
they did is they let it go through. This fucking

01:33:17.279 --> 01:33:23.720
guy! How many times did this guy get stabbed

01:33:23.720 --> 01:33:25.439
like this? I've done that one, by the way, right

01:33:25.439 --> 01:33:28.659
there. That's a safe place. That's, like, not

01:33:28.659 --> 01:33:30.420
an issue. But when you go through the lungs and

01:33:30.420 --> 01:33:34.060
stuff, it's crazy. Look, it's crazy. But this

01:33:34.060 --> 01:33:36.340
is too much. I wouldn't show it. That's a thick

01:33:36.340 --> 01:33:40.300
fucking sword, man. He went to that one? Listen,

01:33:40.439 --> 01:33:44.359
he's joking. So what happened was he started

01:33:44.359 --> 01:33:47.479
to get too cocky. He started to think he was

01:33:47.479 --> 01:33:53.460
fine. Oh, Jesus Christ. But, okay, so listen

01:33:53.460 --> 01:33:56.199
to the origin of this trick, though. That's not

01:33:56.199 --> 01:33:58.979
a trick. No, but I know, but listen. So the origin

01:33:58.979 --> 01:34:01.619
of this is as a kid, there's that trick where

01:34:01.619 --> 01:34:04.079
they do needle through arm. Yes. Right? And it's

01:34:04.079 --> 01:34:05.840
like the rubber, you know, the stuff, and it

01:34:05.840 --> 01:34:07.699
sticks your skin together. It looks perfect.

01:34:07.779 --> 01:34:09.880
It looks like it's really through your arm. And

01:34:09.880 --> 01:34:11.939
then they, like, squeeze blood out of the thing.

01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:16.060
Right. So I saw that, and then I was like, but

01:34:16.060 --> 01:34:18.460
maybe that's, like, actually doable. Like, maybe

01:34:18.460 --> 01:34:21.289
that trick could really be done. Like the same

01:34:21.289 --> 01:34:24.729
exact trick, but for real. Right. So that's this.

01:34:25.210 --> 01:34:28.550
Okay. Okay, so you take that. Okay. Like I said,

01:34:28.609 --> 01:34:30.590
it's going to be a little tricky to push through

01:34:30.590 --> 01:34:33.350
just because it's usually sharp, and this time

01:34:33.350 --> 01:34:36.029
it's not as sharp. How do you know where to do

01:34:36.029 --> 01:34:39.029
it through? We're going to pick. There's no particular

01:34:39.029 --> 01:34:40.989
spot? You just don't want to hit an artery. How

01:34:40.989 --> 01:34:42.390
do I know I'm not going to hit an artery there?

01:34:42.449 --> 01:34:43.590
I don't know. You're smart. I can't kill you,

01:34:43.630 --> 01:34:45.810
bro. What if you die? So you want me to just

01:34:45.810 --> 01:34:48.909
right here? Anywhere? Sure. Where do you prefer?

01:34:49.350 --> 01:34:51.909
Wherever you want. Like right there? Well, sure.

01:34:52.189 --> 01:34:54.489
No? Yeah, do it there. Where you want. Do it

01:34:54.489 --> 01:34:56.569
where you want. When you say, well, sure. Like

01:34:56.569 --> 01:34:58.930
where do you like it to go through? The bottom?

01:34:59.289 --> 01:35:00.890
No, I liked where you were going. Right here.

01:35:01.510 --> 01:35:04.630
I mean, that's fine. But you're going to have

01:35:04.630 --> 01:35:06.750
to go like through. Well, what do you want me

01:35:06.750 --> 01:35:08.510
to do? Yeah, you're going to push through. Okay.

01:35:09.270 --> 01:35:11.329
Should I hold on to you here? Yeah, keep like

01:35:11.329 --> 01:35:14.909
a straight path. Okay, like that? No, I'd go

01:35:14.909 --> 01:35:17.810
straight. Like that? Yeah, I'd go straight through.

01:35:18.010 --> 01:35:28.270
Okay, ready? Slowly. I'd go slow. Yeah. See that?

01:35:28.470 --> 01:35:32.829
Yep. See? So, it's hard to believe that it's

01:35:32.829 --> 01:35:37.130
real. You keep pushing. Keep going. Keep going.

01:35:38.470 --> 01:35:47.029
Wait. Uh -oh. Hold on. What happened? I hit a

01:35:47.029 --> 01:35:48.729
nerve. Oh, Jesus. You got to do it in another

01:35:48.729 --> 01:35:51.930
spot. No, no, no. Come on, man. You got to do

01:35:51.930 --> 01:35:53.529
it in another spot. You were hitting a nerve.

01:35:53.590 --> 01:35:55.989
Yeah, but what if I fuck your arm up, man, and

01:35:55.989 --> 01:35:57.689
then you can't hang from the balloon, and then

01:35:57.689 --> 01:36:04.109
YouTube's mad at me? Okay, again. Jesus, bro.

01:36:05.430 --> 01:36:09.010
Okay. So, by the way, honest to God, I never

01:36:09.010 --> 01:36:11.399
go in this direction. Which way do you go? I

01:36:11.399 --> 01:36:14.199
always go this direction. Why? From inside to

01:36:14.199 --> 01:36:17.760
out. I'm just saying of all the times I did it,

01:36:17.779 --> 01:36:19.420
I've always gone this direction. Do you want

01:36:19.420 --> 01:36:21.119
me to go that direction? I'm just telling you

01:36:21.119 --> 01:36:23.539
I've never done it. Is that better? No. So what's

01:36:23.539 --> 01:36:24.899
the difference? I'm just saying I've never done

01:36:24.899 --> 01:36:26.300
it this way. Oh, okay. So it's groundbreaking.

01:36:26.899 --> 01:36:29.260
No, I'm saying it's nuts. Well, it's definitely

01:36:29.260 --> 01:36:31.899
nuts. So hold my wrist again. Okay. Good. No,

01:36:31.979 --> 01:36:34.840
but from the bottom. Like this? Like that. Yeah,

01:36:34.859 --> 01:36:37.460
and then I go again, and I would try to go like

01:36:37.460 --> 01:36:39.739
a straight path through. Like right there? No,

01:36:39.859 --> 01:36:43.699
I would go like lower and in. Like there? Point

01:36:43.699 --> 01:36:46.420
it. Ready? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'd go like that.

01:36:46.539 --> 01:36:57.340
Hold on. Wait, wait. Push. Yeah, like that. Like

01:36:57.340 --> 01:37:00.479
that. That's good. Yep, we're on a clean path.

01:37:00.619 --> 01:37:03.710
We hit something, but it's fine. Now, what I

01:37:03.710 --> 01:37:06.170
use is this. I use the skin here and I push so

01:37:06.170 --> 01:37:09.109
you can see it come through. Push. That's it.

01:37:09.289 --> 01:37:18.930
See? Alrighty. Super unnecessary. But it does

01:37:18.930 --> 01:37:21.649
seem like a magic trick. It definitely doesn't

01:37:21.649 --> 01:37:23.989
seem like a magic trick to me. But hold on. There's

01:37:23.989 --> 01:37:25.970
blood vessels in everything. How come there's

01:37:25.970 --> 01:37:29.270
no blood? Well, it's a very small hole in comparison

01:37:29.270 --> 01:37:31.909
to... No, it's a good size. And there is blood

01:37:31.909 --> 01:37:34.449
on the other hole. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, that's

01:37:34.449 --> 01:37:38.689
because you hit something. Uh -huh. And your

01:37:38.689 --> 01:37:41.210
body's healthy, so it's clotting up pretty quickly.

01:37:41.470 --> 01:37:43.989
Okay. Should I put it out? Yeah. Okay. Slowly.

01:37:44.430 --> 01:37:59.989
Go ahead. Cool. And that's it. Okay. So here,

01:38:00.029 --> 01:38:06.170
this is for you to keep. I can't say I enjoyed

01:38:06.170 --> 01:38:11.310
that. That was very uncomfortable. But what's

01:38:11.310 --> 01:38:14.069
weird to me more than anything is that you seem

01:38:14.069 --> 01:38:17.130
to enjoy it. You enjoyed the freak out part of

01:38:17.130 --> 01:38:20.090
it. No, I like what I said. I like that you can

01:38:20.090 --> 01:38:22.810
override your body with your brain to do things

01:38:22.810 --> 01:38:26.250
that seem like they're not real. Yeah, like that.

01:38:26.369 --> 01:38:29.029
You know it's real because of what you do to

01:38:29.029 --> 01:38:31.149
your body. But most people see all the things

01:38:31.149 --> 01:38:32.829
they're doing and think it's a magic trick. Right.

01:38:33.029 --> 01:38:35.109
They think it's a trick. Like, okay, it's a trick.

01:38:35.250 --> 01:38:37.010
Like he's not holding his breath. And you've

01:38:37.010 --> 01:38:38.949
done that thing with the sword where you've gone

01:38:38.949 --> 01:38:41.949
through your body? Yeah, but it was. Not very

01:38:41.949 --> 01:38:44.029
thick, and it was through right here. I didn't

01:38:44.029 --> 01:38:45.029
go through the lung. Okay, so you didn't go through

01:38:45.029 --> 01:38:47.810
the organs like this guy did. No. But I think

01:38:47.810 --> 01:38:51.289
you can. Oh, obviously. He did it. Right. And

01:38:51.289 --> 01:38:54.489
swallowing this is what killed him? So he thought

01:38:54.489 --> 01:38:58.289
he could do anything. Yeah. So he's like, I'm

01:38:58.289 --> 01:39:00.149
going to swallow this type of thing, and then

01:39:00.149 --> 01:39:03.449
I'm going to bring it up. He swallowed it, and

01:39:03.449 --> 01:39:05.470
he couldn't bring it up. And then he fell asleep,

01:39:05.550 --> 01:39:08.310
and it ruptured his heart. He died. He woke up.

01:39:08.310 --> 01:39:10.569
They found him cold. Oh, boy. Internal bleeding.

01:39:11.880 --> 01:39:16.359
Jesus Christ. That is the thing about these extreme

01:39:16.359 --> 01:39:19.460
feats, right? Is that you possibly might be pushing

01:39:19.460 --> 01:39:21.100
the boundaries of what's physically possible,

01:39:21.180 --> 01:39:23.220
which means you could die like Houdini. Like

01:39:23.220 --> 01:39:24.779
Houdini died from getting punched, right? Yeah,

01:39:24.779 --> 01:39:26.880
in the stomach. Yeah. How does a punch to the

01:39:26.880 --> 01:39:29.819
stomach kill you? Well, so normally, like I had

01:39:29.819 --> 01:39:31.619
Kimbo Slice punch me in the stomach. Did you

01:39:31.619 --> 01:39:35.720
really? Yeah. Ouch. Yeah. And then I had him

01:39:35.720 --> 01:39:37.739
do it again. And then I felt bad. I didn't want

01:39:37.739 --> 01:39:39.300
to make him keep doing it because it wasn't,

01:39:39.300 --> 01:39:41.199
you know. Right. Because as you know, you can

01:39:41.199 --> 01:39:44.840
train to take a punch. Yes. Obviously. So I basically

01:39:44.840 --> 01:39:48.439
had my trainer, Rich Beretta, throw heavy balls,

01:39:48.720 --> 01:39:51.279
kick me in the stomach, do everything. And I

01:39:51.279 --> 01:39:54.479
trained for a long, like a year just to take

01:39:54.479 --> 01:39:57.000
a punch from anybody. Oh, yeah. Here comes Kimbo.

01:39:57.680 --> 01:40:01.399
Boom. Oh, dude. And then I said to him, do it

01:40:01.399 --> 01:40:04.579
again. And by the way, I'm not even in top physical.

01:40:04.640 --> 01:40:07.699
So I said, do it again. But I obviously could

01:40:07.699 --> 01:40:10.380
have kept going. Boom. And I did that based on

01:40:10.380 --> 01:40:12.920
Houdini, right? Right. But here's the thing.

01:40:13.020 --> 01:40:15.859
So Houdini would do this on stage every night.

01:40:15.960 --> 01:40:18.239
And it's a great thing in the show. It's like,

01:40:18.300 --> 01:40:20.439
look, blah, blah, blah. And he's 10 strongest

01:40:20.439 --> 01:40:24.000
people in the audience. Come punch him. And these

01:40:24.000 --> 01:40:27.189
kids think he's invisible, invincible. Right?

01:40:27.289 --> 01:40:29.529
Like this is Houdini, Man of Steel, whatever,

01:40:29.729 --> 01:40:31.930
right? So he's sleeping in his dressing room

01:40:31.930 --> 01:40:33.489
with these two college kids. One kid's like,

01:40:33.569 --> 01:40:35.750
watch out. And they punch Houdini in the stomach

01:40:35.750 --> 01:40:38.189
really hard. While he's asleep? Yes. And as you

01:40:38.189 --> 01:40:40.489
know, that's dangerous because you don't have

01:40:40.489 --> 01:40:43.189
a wall up. So he ruptured something, but he's

01:40:43.189 --> 01:40:46.350
a workaholic. So the guy is in a lot of pain.

01:40:46.909 --> 01:40:49.409
Maybe it wasn't related. Maybe it's something

01:40:49.409 --> 01:40:51.789
different. Maybe he had appendicitis. Who knows,

01:40:51.890 --> 01:40:53.909
right? He's in a lot of pain, but he wouldn't

01:40:53.909 --> 01:40:56.760
let the audience down. So he wouldn't quit his

01:40:56.760 --> 01:40:58.920
show. So he did his show. And at the end of the

01:40:58.920 --> 01:41:00.739
show, he's upside down in the water tank, everything

01:41:00.739 --> 01:41:02.619
else when he shouldn't have been. He should have

01:41:02.619 --> 01:41:04.479
been in the hospital. But instead, he did the

01:41:04.479 --> 01:41:07.300
show that night, collapsed on the stage, was

01:41:07.300 --> 01:41:09.420
not from the water tank, but right after the

01:41:09.420 --> 01:41:11.100
water tank, was rushed to a hospital and then

01:41:11.100 --> 01:41:13.439
died in the hospital. And what was the diagnosis?

01:41:13.699 --> 01:41:18.060
What did he die from? Well, it was 1926. Voodoo.

01:41:18.260 --> 01:41:26.579
He died from voodoo. Yeah. Wow. I mean, that's

01:41:26.579 --> 01:41:29.279
the thing about someone who does something that

01:41:29.279 --> 01:41:31.399
pushes it to the edge like that. I mean, when

01:41:31.399 --> 01:41:33.399
someone sees you hold your breath for 20 minutes,

01:41:33.420 --> 01:41:35.100
what's fascinating about it is not just that

01:41:35.100 --> 01:41:38.399
it's hard to do, but that you might die. Yeah.

01:41:38.819 --> 01:41:42.960
Right? Yeah. Or some people say, oh, how's he

01:41:42.960 --> 01:41:45.460
doing it? Right. What's the trigger? So there's

01:41:45.460 --> 01:41:48.220
all different interpretations. But the worry,

01:41:48.380 --> 01:41:50.859
the thing that thrills people. Yeah. It's like

01:41:50.859 --> 01:41:53.880
the, you know, well. Yeah, the idea that something

01:41:53.880 --> 01:41:55.960
could go wrong. That's why everybody watched

01:41:55.960 --> 01:41:57.800
Evil Knievel, because he might wipe out on it.

01:41:57.800 --> 01:42:03.520
And he often did wipe out on his bike. This thrill

01:42:03.520 --> 01:42:06.859
of getting to that edge is very dangerous, right?

01:42:06.899 --> 01:42:09.079
Because you keep pushing. There's a danger, but

01:42:09.079 --> 01:42:11.319
I feel like if you rehearse and practice and

01:42:11.319 --> 01:42:13.520
put the best team and don't just do crazy things

01:42:13.520 --> 01:42:16.500
without a plan, then I feel like the danger is

01:42:16.500 --> 01:42:18.939
like, sure, the danger is there, but I also rode

01:42:18.939 --> 01:42:21.560
my motorcycle here. Which is also extraordinary.

01:42:21.640 --> 01:42:23.939
I've lost a lot of friends on bikes. Yeah. Right?

01:42:24.420 --> 01:42:27.600
So, sure, I get what you're saying and I understand

01:42:27.600 --> 01:42:31.899
all that. You seem to like thrills. Well, I mean,

01:42:31.920 --> 01:42:35.180
I like adventures. Like riding a motorcycle.

01:42:35.439 --> 01:42:37.300
Yeah, it was an adventure. That is an adventure.

01:42:37.319 --> 01:42:40.060
Yeah. I mean, I look at people that do it every

01:42:40.060 --> 01:42:42.479
day and I go, that's a braver person than I am.

01:42:42.479 --> 01:42:44.619
And in California, you're allowed to weave, dude.

01:42:44.699 --> 01:42:47.460
So that's... That's kind of amazing. In California,

01:42:47.539 --> 01:42:50.020
they're like, go ahead. Give it a shot. Fuck

01:42:50.020 --> 01:42:55.260
it. You're here. Where do you see this? Do you

01:42:55.260 --> 01:42:59.140
have a grand vision of your life in terms of

01:42:59.140 --> 01:43:03.500
these stunts that you do? Do you have some ultimate

01:43:03.500 --> 01:43:06.840
threshold that you'd like to get to? We have

01:43:06.840 --> 01:43:08.640
to take a break. I want to make sure that I'm

01:43:08.640 --> 01:43:12.239
okay. Okay. Hold on. Can we take a break? Yeah,

01:43:12.279 --> 01:43:13.300
yeah, yeah. We'll take a break. We'll be right

01:43:13.300 --> 01:43:17.949
back. So we had to clean up your wound. It was

01:43:17.949 --> 01:43:21.869
fine. Yeah. You seem to enjoy it. You really

01:43:21.869 --> 01:43:23.890
do. You were laughing while they were cleaning

01:43:23.890 --> 01:43:25.829
it up and checking it. And you're like, it's

01:43:25.829 --> 01:43:30.170
good. We're good. It was just, what was it? The

01:43:30.170 --> 01:43:33.729
blood? What was it that was bothering you? He's

01:43:33.729 --> 01:43:35.569
drinking all the water to prepare for swallowing

01:43:35.569 --> 01:43:39.970
a frog. I just felt, you know, too much. Of the

01:43:39.970 --> 01:43:43.189
magic becoming real. It's the magic. How much

01:43:43.189 --> 01:43:47.210
water do you have to drink to do what you want

01:43:47.210 --> 01:44:00.680
to do? Oh, we'll see. What's up? Do you have

01:44:00.680 --> 01:44:02.140
to drink it at a certain speed? Because I've

01:44:02.140 --> 01:44:04.119
seen people that can chug these. They just shove

01:44:04.119 --> 01:44:05.939
the whole thing down their face. It's almost

01:44:05.939 --> 01:44:07.680
like a magic trick in itself. They can drink

01:44:07.680 --> 01:44:10.500
it. Yeah, those guys that just... I had the guy

01:44:10.500 --> 01:44:13.760
that was the fastest work on it with me. How

01:44:13.760 --> 01:44:17.220
many do you have to drink? You've drank three

01:44:17.220 --> 01:44:19.699
so far? Yeah, plus the two out there, but yeah.

01:44:19.920 --> 01:44:24.600
So five. You have to drink eight total? Do you

01:44:24.600 --> 01:44:26.720
need a bucket or anything to throw the frog up

01:44:26.720 --> 01:44:31.359
in? Do we have a bucket? Ice bucket? That doesn't

01:44:31.359 --> 01:44:34.699
seem like enough fluid, though. This is an American

01:44:34.699 --> 01:44:42.859
flag bucket in the back, that big one. Oh, perfect.

01:44:43.699 --> 01:44:46.899
Oh, look at that. How convenient. This poor frog

01:44:46.899 --> 01:44:49.500
has no idea. He's a magical frog. How do you

01:44:49.500 --> 01:44:52.420
know he's real? He's real. Well, you don't know.

01:44:52.479 --> 01:44:56.239
That could be a magic trick. Well... If it is,

01:44:56.340 --> 01:44:59.140
it's amazing you should sell these to people

01:44:59.140 --> 01:45:01.020
that don't want biological frogs because that's

01:45:01.020 --> 01:45:04.500
a fucking live frog. I mean, he's looking at

01:45:04.500 --> 01:45:06.260
me. He's moving around. He's bobbing his head.

01:45:06.779 --> 01:45:09.399
He's trying to get the fuck out. He's making

01:45:09.399 --> 01:45:11.840
the thing with the throat. Look at him. He's

01:45:11.840 --> 01:45:13.520
trying to get out. That's a real frog, kids.

01:45:14.939 --> 01:45:21.359
No doubt. When did you start doing this, the

01:45:21.359 --> 01:45:26.380
frog thing? Is that enough? What if it overflows?

01:45:27.600 --> 01:45:33.439
There was a guy called the Human Aquarium. So

01:45:33.439 --> 01:45:36.260
the thing about most of the acts that I'm doing,

01:45:36.319 --> 01:45:38.199
by the way, like night after night, usually the

01:45:38.199 --> 01:45:40.520
people that did them, it was like their one act.

01:45:40.659 --> 01:45:42.239
So there was one guy called the Human Aquarium,

01:45:42.300 --> 01:45:43.819
and he was the guy that could swallow frogs and

01:45:43.819 --> 01:45:45.399
bring them up. But he would do it. You'd see

01:45:45.399 --> 01:45:47.340
him swallow them, and then you'd see him bring

01:45:47.340 --> 01:45:49.340
them up. So it wasn't magical. It was like a

01:45:49.340 --> 01:45:52.300
skill set. Usually what I would do is I'd put

01:45:52.300 --> 01:45:54.239
them in my stomach, keep them in there for like

01:45:54.239 --> 01:45:56.539
two hours, and then bring them up and freak you

01:45:56.539 --> 01:45:59.340
out. Right? You see? And I'd have a gallon of

01:45:59.340 --> 01:46:02.340
water in my stomach. So I have an aquarium. I

01:46:02.340 --> 01:46:04.859
have baking soda. It gets rid of the acid. No

01:46:04.859 --> 01:46:10.560
food. 36 hours. And then once I drink this, we're

01:46:10.560 --> 01:46:12.800
at a gallon. We're at four liters. So just under

01:46:12.800 --> 01:46:17.680
a gallon. So did you not eat for 36 hours in

01:46:17.680 --> 01:46:22.250
preparation for this? Yes. That's a lot of not

01:46:22.250 --> 01:46:25.890
eating for this poor frog's worst moment of his

01:46:25.890 --> 01:46:30.270
life. This poor little dude, Jamie. Just in case

01:46:30.270 --> 01:46:33.529
you don't think he's real. He's real. Oh, there's

01:46:33.529 --> 01:46:35.170
more than one in there. No, that's just him.

01:46:36.770 --> 01:46:40.369
It's just an illusion. I thought there was a

01:46:40.369 --> 01:46:44.050
little one in there. That's a decent -sized frog,

01:46:44.130 --> 01:46:46.010
too, by the way. You wouldn't want to swallow

01:46:46.010 --> 01:46:49.520
a frog that large. Mark Twain has a quote. He

01:46:49.520 --> 01:46:51.960
says, eat a live frog first thing in the morning

01:46:51.960 --> 01:46:53.979
and nothing worse could happen for the rest of

01:46:53.979 --> 01:47:00.840
your day. By the way, back to the James Nestor

01:47:00.840 --> 01:47:03.680
book, The Woman Missing Deep, there's something

01:47:03.680 --> 01:47:06.079
he talks about that's really amazing, which is

01:47:06.079 --> 01:47:08.300
one of my favorite parts. And there he talks

01:47:08.300 --> 01:47:11.880
about how coral communicates. Can I read this

01:47:11.880 --> 01:47:16.289
thing? Sure. Yeah, sure. So he talks about, it's

01:47:16.289 --> 01:47:20.449
one of my favorite things that he talks about.

01:47:20.510 --> 01:47:28.010
It's so amazing. So let's see. We're deep. Okay.

01:47:28.170 --> 01:47:34.890
So I have like a bunch of notes. What app are

01:47:34.890 --> 01:47:37.050
you using to read from? iBooks, just because

01:47:37.050 --> 01:47:39.449
you could keep all the books there. And you highlight?

01:47:39.920 --> 01:47:41.920
Things with iBooks? Yeah, of course. I didn't

01:47:41.920 --> 01:47:43.319
know you could highlight things. Oh, yeah, yeah,

01:47:43.359 --> 01:47:45.319
yeah. And then you keep all of your books here.

01:47:45.600 --> 01:47:47.720
Right. Oh, no, I do that on my phone, but I didn't

01:47:47.720 --> 01:47:51.659
know you could highlight. I rarely read on the

01:47:51.659 --> 01:47:55.479
phone, too. I usually use a Kindle. Yeah, I only

01:47:55.479 --> 01:47:58.619
use this. This is the thing I live by, so it's

01:47:58.619 --> 01:48:02.479
like ruined my life, but also helped it somehow,

01:48:02.619 --> 01:48:05.979
I guess, some way. Let's see. It'll take me a

01:48:05.979 --> 01:48:09.460
second to pull it up. I just like the Kindle

01:48:09.460 --> 01:48:12.239
because it looks like paper. You know, the paper

01:48:12.239 --> 01:48:15.699
white ones? Yeah, and they're easier on the eyes.

01:48:15.819 --> 01:48:17.000
Yes, that's what I'm saying. It's tricky on the

01:48:17.000 --> 01:48:23.739
eyes as well. Okay, so can I just read it? Sure,

01:48:23.739 --> 01:48:26.680
yeah, yeah. Okay, so it's part of what the Aquanauts

01:48:26.680 --> 01:48:28.359
and Aquarius are trying to find out. They're

01:48:28.359 --> 01:48:31.119
also trying to crack the more mystical marine

01:48:31.119 --> 01:48:35.239
riddles, like the secret behind coral's telepathic

01:48:35.239 --> 01:48:38.729
communication. This is so crazy when he writes

01:48:38.729 --> 01:48:42.130
it. Every year, on the same day, at the same

01:48:42.130 --> 01:48:45.550
hour, usually within the same minute, corals

01:48:45.550 --> 01:48:48.710
of the same species, although separated by thousands

01:48:48.710 --> 01:48:53.050
of miles, will suddenly spawn in perfect synchronicity.

01:48:54.350 --> 01:48:57.710
The dates and times vary from year to year for

01:48:57.710 --> 01:49:00.890
reasons only the coral knows. Stranger still,

01:49:01.229 --> 01:49:04.170
while one species of coral spawns during one

01:49:04.170 --> 01:49:07.229
hour, another species right next to it waits

01:49:07.229 --> 01:49:09.789
for a different hour or a different day or a

01:49:09.789 --> 01:49:12.270
different week before spawning in synchronicity

01:49:12.270 --> 01:49:15.699
with its own species. Distance seems to have

01:49:15.699 --> 01:49:18.840
no effect. If you broke off a chunk of coral

01:49:18.840 --> 01:49:21.399
and placed it in a bucket beneath a sink in London,

01:49:21.600 --> 01:49:24.600
that chunk would, in most cases, spawn at the

01:49:24.600 --> 01:49:27.439
same time as other coral of the same species

01:49:27.439 --> 01:49:30.739
around the world. Which is crazy. Like, you could

01:49:30.739 --> 01:49:33.680
take a piece of coral, break it off, put it in

01:49:33.680 --> 01:49:36.020
London, and another coral of the same species

01:49:36.020 --> 01:49:38.699
will, in synchronicity, spawn at the exact same

01:49:38.699 --> 01:49:42.159
time. And they have no idea why. The synchronous

01:49:42.159 --> 01:49:45.479
spawn is essential for coral survival. Coral

01:49:45.479 --> 01:49:48.100
colonies must continuously expand outward to

01:49:48.100 --> 01:49:52.399
thrive. To remain healthy and strong, they must

01:49:52.399 --> 01:49:55.119
breed outside of their gene pool with neighboring

01:49:55.119 --> 01:49:58.199
colonies. Once released to the surface, the coral

01:49:58.199 --> 01:50:00.659
sperm and eggs have only about 30 minutes to

01:50:00.659 --> 01:50:04.699
fuse. Any longer and the coral eggs and sperm

01:50:04.699 --> 01:50:07.939
will either dissipate or die off. Researchers

01:50:07.939 --> 01:50:10.579
have found that if the spawning is just 15 minutes

01:50:10.579 --> 01:50:13.199
out of sync, coral colonies' chances of survival

01:50:13.199 --> 01:50:16.560
are greatly reduced. Coral is the largest biological

01:50:16.560 --> 01:50:21.119
structure on the planet and covers 175 ,000 square

01:50:21.119 --> 01:50:23.880
miles of the seafloor, and it can communicate

01:50:23.880 --> 01:50:27.159
in a way far more sophisticated than anyone ever

01:50:27.159 --> 01:50:30.479
thought. And yet coral is one of the most primitive

01:50:30.479 --> 01:50:34.039
animals on Earth. Coral has no eyes, no ears,

01:50:34.180 --> 01:50:39.000
and no brain. Is that crazy? That's insane. Yeah,

01:50:39.119 --> 01:50:40.920
that's what I thought it was. But it's fascinating,

01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:43.199
too, that they just have no idea why or how.

01:50:44.479 --> 01:50:47.460
I mean, what's the mechanism for their communication?

01:50:47.939 --> 01:50:49.920
The fact that if something's under a sink in

01:50:49.920 --> 01:50:53.359
London, it sinks up with... Coral, the same species

01:50:53.359 --> 01:50:54.960
on another side of the planet. Like, what is

01:50:54.960 --> 01:50:56.579
happening? I think, like, one of the most futuristic

01:50:56.579 --> 01:51:00.020
minds of our lifetimes is Jim Cameron. I think,

01:51:00.079 --> 01:51:03.579
like, Avatar and Terminator 2 and, like, the

01:51:03.579 --> 01:51:06.100
machines taking over. Yeah, it's true. I think

01:51:06.100 --> 01:51:08.119
he's, like – I think we're going to look back

01:51:08.119 --> 01:51:11.039
and be like, wow, he really predicted a lot.

01:51:11.260 --> 01:51:13.819
He knew some shit. The trees all communicating

01:51:13.819 --> 01:51:18.420
with each other. Yeah. Well, have you read about

01:51:18.420 --> 01:51:22.439
the mycelium and the – the fungus underneath

01:51:22.439 --> 01:51:26.479
the soil that actually the trees utilize it through

01:51:26.479 --> 01:51:28.479
their root structures and they communicate through

01:51:28.479 --> 01:51:34.220
that? Mm -mm. Yeah, there's some sort of a mycorrhizal

01:51:34.220 --> 01:51:37.699
relationship that fungus has with these trees.

01:51:38.220 --> 01:51:41.159
and they they actually somehow or another communicate

01:51:41.159 --> 01:51:43.800
through each other as well they're like using

01:51:43.800 --> 01:51:46.539
the soil like this that's crazy yeah we think

01:51:46.539 --> 01:51:49.560
of soil as being dirt right just but it's there's

01:51:49.560 --> 01:51:52.899
life in there yeah all sorts of biological life

01:51:52.899 --> 01:51:56.899
living in that soil yes and these trees and different

01:51:56.899 --> 01:51:59.020
plants actually through their root structure

01:51:59.020 --> 01:52:03.539
communicate and use the use the the fungi that

01:52:03.539 --> 01:52:07.479
live in the soil It's very, very Paul Stamets,

01:52:07.479 --> 01:52:10.520
who's a wizard when it comes to mycology and

01:52:10.520 --> 01:52:13.880
talking about fungus. And he's got some amazing

01:52:13.880 --> 01:52:16.279
work that he's done just his whole life studying

01:52:16.279 --> 01:52:18.960
mushrooms. And it's like so advanced. When he

01:52:18.960 --> 01:52:21.159
talks to you about it, like you just really get

01:52:21.159 --> 01:52:22.819
this feeling like there's something going on

01:52:22.819 --> 01:52:25.279
that we don't totally understand. Like the largest

01:52:25.279 --> 01:52:29.060
animal. But fungus is kind of an animal. It breathes

01:52:29.060 --> 01:52:33.960
oxygen and it breathes out carbon dioxide. That's

01:52:33.960 --> 01:52:35.720
crazy. I didn't even know that. Yeah. So the

01:52:35.720 --> 01:52:38.079
relationship that fungus, that mushrooms have

01:52:38.079 --> 01:52:42.199
with the earth is in some ways more similar to

01:52:42.199 --> 01:52:46.239
us than it is to plants. Because plants are breathing

01:52:46.239 --> 01:52:48.180
in carbon dioxide, obviously, and breathing out

01:52:48.180 --> 01:52:51.779
oxygen. So we're closer to fungus. Yeah. And

01:52:51.779 --> 01:52:55.729
they're living with these things. A group of

01:52:55.729 --> 01:52:58.949
fungi, I guess, in the Pacific Northwest, it's

01:52:58.949 --> 01:53:01.770
the largest living creature other than, I guess,

01:53:01.829 --> 01:53:04.130
like biological organism you'd say was the coral

01:53:04.130 --> 01:53:06.470
reef. But there's something in the Pacific Northwest

01:53:06.470 --> 01:53:09.949
that's fucking enormous. And it's just one interconnected

01:53:09.949 --> 01:53:14.390
mushroom structure. Wow. It's very heavy. Yeah.

01:53:14.470 --> 01:53:18.289
And obviously. The right ones can bring you to

01:53:18.289 --> 01:53:21.489
God. The right ones can connect you to alien

01:53:21.489 --> 01:53:24.689
life and the future and tell you what you're

01:53:24.689 --> 01:53:27.109
doing wrong with the planet. So there's something

01:53:27.109 --> 01:53:28.989
going on with these things. That touches into

01:53:28.989 --> 01:53:31.470
a different part of your consciousness. Well,

01:53:31.470 --> 01:53:34.029
we're just very egocentric and arrogant in our

01:53:34.029 --> 01:53:35.869
ideas about what the human race means to the

01:53:35.869 --> 01:53:37.310
rest of the planet. Because we have this ability

01:53:37.310 --> 01:53:39.770
to manipulate things and send texts and emails.

01:53:39.989 --> 01:53:42.149
Which is just about our proportions, basically.

01:53:42.329 --> 01:53:44.670
Just because our fingers and our ability to like...

01:53:44.810 --> 01:53:47.329
But we think that's so important because it's

01:53:47.329 --> 01:53:49.310
so important to us. Because it's so significant.

01:53:49.770 --> 01:53:52.409
The ability to watch a television show or not

01:53:52.409 --> 01:53:54.270
be able to. The ability to fly in a plane or

01:53:54.270 --> 01:53:56.689
not. Those things are so significant that we

01:53:56.689 --> 01:53:58.550
think of them as being the most significant things

01:53:58.550 --> 01:54:00.770
in the world. But meanwhile, there's some animals.

01:54:01.029 --> 01:54:05.050
Like when you see a flock of birds fly in synchronicity

01:54:05.050 --> 01:54:07.710
in some sort of strange dance. And you're like,

01:54:07.810 --> 01:54:10.289
how the fuck are they doing that? And no one

01:54:10.289 --> 01:54:12.729
knows. They really don't know. There's all this

01:54:12.729 --> 01:54:15.760
guesswork. sure exactly what's going on. How

01:54:15.760 --> 01:54:18.119
do they know how to travel thousands of miles

01:54:18.119 --> 01:54:21.020
every season and go back to the place where they

01:54:21.020 --> 01:54:24.260
spawned? They don't know. They don't know. How

01:54:24.260 --> 01:54:27.500
does salmon? Salmon figure out a way to get all

01:54:27.500 --> 01:54:30.699
the way back to where they were born. They make

01:54:30.699 --> 01:54:33.140
their way all the way through the river to the

01:54:33.140 --> 01:54:35.340
ocean, and then when it's time to rock and roll,

01:54:35.460 --> 01:54:37.439
they get all the way back. And they have to get

01:54:37.439 --> 01:54:39.260
back to that one spot. They can't get to just

01:54:39.260 --> 01:54:41.939
any old river. They won't make it. They won't

01:54:41.939 --> 01:54:43.340
survive. They won't spawn. They won't do it.

01:54:43.340 --> 01:54:45.079
it they have to get back to the place where they

01:54:45.079 --> 01:54:47.960
belong and something in their little salmon brains

01:54:47.960 --> 01:54:50.659
or in their salmon biological system lets them

01:54:50.659 --> 01:54:52.659
know and we don't know what it is we don't know

01:54:52.659 --> 01:54:55.000
what it is but we up and we these river structures

01:54:55.000 --> 01:54:57.520
and then they die and they die off the pacific

01:54:57.520 --> 01:54:59.760
northwest has a they had a huge problem with

01:54:59.760 --> 01:55:02.319
that and they they didn't understand it when

01:55:02.319 --> 01:55:04.220
they first put these dams in place these salmon

01:55:04.220 --> 01:55:07.039
would just pull up and they try to redistribute

01:55:07.039 --> 01:55:09.159
them to other places and they're like nope i

01:55:09.159 --> 01:55:12.250
need to go back to where i'm from It's weird,

01:55:12.390 --> 01:55:15.810
man. Biological life is weird. It is amazing.

01:55:15.949 --> 01:55:18.789
And it's funny. You're right. We think we're

01:55:18.789 --> 01:55:21.270
so... Because we can do things that other ones

01:55:21.270 --> 01:55:22.850
can't do, but they can do things we can't do.

01:55:22.949 --> 01:55:25.369
We just don't put a high priority on what they

01:55:25.369 --> 01:55:29.569
can do for whatever egocentric reason. I was

01:55:29.569 --> 01:55:34.789
swimming in Tonga in the Pacific Northwest, and

01:55:34.789 --> 01:55:38.789
it was with humpback whales. And I was with my

01:55:38.789 --> 01:55:41.229
daughter, and we looked at the mother and the

01:55:41.229 --> 01:55:44.430
calf. I mean, you know, swimming, we were watching

01:55:44.430 --> 01:55:50.869
them. And it's the most beautiful, overwhelming

01:55:50.869 --> 01:55:55.689
moment. I'll show you after some footage. But

01:55:55.689 --> 01:56:00.529
then I was alone. And I was, like, holding my

01:56:00.529 --> 01:56:03.350
breath and kind of free diving next to them.

01:56:03.630 --> 01:56:06.149
And, you know, when you're not on scuba, it's

01:56:06.149 --> 01:56:11.810
not. they're happy to be around you and I'm free

01:56:11.810 --> 01:56:14.329
diving and swimming with the mother and the baby

01:56:14.329 --> 01:56:19.130
and I'm looking at the mother and I'm certain

01:56:19.130 --> 01:56:23.510
certain that she's just looking at me but in

01:56:23.510 --> 01:56:27.770
the nicest way like in the most peaceful it was

01:56:27.770 --> 01:56:30.229
just it's not like a shark eye that's like whoa

01:56:30.229 --> 01:56:35.029
this thing is like yeah so I'm like certain that

01:56:35.029 --> 01:56:38.789
she's like trying to communicate or something

01:56:38.789 --> 01:56:40.930
like that. So anyway, I'm still on the same breath

01:56:40.930 --> 01:56:43.210
while I'm communicating. And I go like this.

01:56:43.210 --> 01:56:46.189
I open my arms up and turn to the mother like

01:56:46.189 --> 01:56:48.750
this. So as I'm swimming, I go like that. And

01:56:48.750 --> 01:56:52.369
the mother mimics, the humpback mimics me and

01:56:52.369 --> 01:56:55.210
turns right towards me and goes like this, right?

01:56:55.489 --> 01:56:58.850
So now we're swimming together and I'm like this,

01:56:58.869 --> 01:57:02.569
like kicking Ed Finzon. And the humpback is doing,

01:57:02.670 --> 01:57:04.689
the mother is doing that to me and I'm swimming

01:57:04.689 --> 01:57:08.180
in synchronicity with, with the mother and the

01:57:08.180 --> 01:57:10.500
baby's following her. And then as soon as I'm

01:57:10.500 --> 01:57:13.560
like done from here and I go back down, she goes

01:57:13.560 --> 01:57:15.500
back down. And it was like, I wanted to cry.

01:57:16.000 --> 01:57:19.979
But yeah, it's like, I think like, but also their

01:57:19.979 --> 01:57:22.479
brains are so much bigger than our, but of course

01:57:22.479 --> 01:57:24.920
they're so, yeah, I still have all this water

01:57:24.920 --> 01:57:26.819
in my stomach. So if I'm going to do this, I

01:57:26.819 --> 01:57:31.180
might need to do it. So you need another one

01:57:31.180 --> 01:57:34.239
of those. What is the reason why you need so

01:57:34.239 --> 01:57:37.100
much water to do this? Is it so that the frog

01:57:37.100 --> 01:57:45.140
has a place to be? So the frog is safe. I've

01:57:45.140 --> 01:57:49.359
never injured a frog or anything. I'm sure he

01:57:49.359 --> 01:57:51.859
feels very comfortable knowing that. Here he

01:57:51.859 --> 01:57:58.000
goes. Oh, Jesus. Did he hop right out? Yeah.

01:57:58.890 --> 01:58:00.609
He's like, I know what the fuck is happening

01:58:00.609 --> 01:58:07.529
here. Oh, hey, buddy. Okay, so hold on. I just

01:58:07.529 --> 01:58:09.829
usually like to give him a little. Give him a

01:58:09.829 --> 01:58:15.210
little bath? Yeah. Okay. So this is basically

01:58:15.210 --> 01:58:17.789
the technique, and I've put up to 10 frogs inside.

01:58:18.710 --> 01:58:46.489
Look, so he come. Hmm? Need more? And now we

01:58:46.489 --> 01:58:48.869
can hang and talk for, you know, as long as we

01:58:48.869 --> 01:58:52.029
want. So how long does he stay in there? What's

01:58:52.029 --> 01:58:53.670
the longest you've kept him in there and they

01:58:53.670 --> 01:58:56.930
live? Like three hours or so. And none of them

01:58:56.930 --> 01:59:00.069
have ever died? Nope. Wow. That's pretty mean.

01:59:00.130 --> 01:59:01.890
How bad do you have to pee right now? I don't

01:59:01.890 --> 01:59:06.710
want it done. Anytime anybody complains. About

01:59:06.710 --> 01:59:08.689
needing to pee. I'm going to show them this video.

01:59:14.510 --> 01:59:17.270
Tenth. Tenth water. And what are they? Eight

01:59:17.270 --> 01:59:21.810
ounces? Sixteen. Sixteen? It's my water, bro.

01:59:23.090 --> 01:59:27.989
It's more than a gallon of water. Yeah. Now,

01:59:28.130 --> 01:59:33.090
here's the magical part. It's my mouth empty.

01:59:36.079 --> 01:59:39.819
And I have to, like, get him to swim up to the...

01:59:39.819 --> 01:59:45.380
How do you do that? I don't know. I just, like,

01:59:45.399 --> 01:59:47.640
did it and had fluoroscopies and looked where

01:59:47.640 --> 01:59:49.760
they were and then saw that and then figured

01:59:49.760 --> 01:59:56.180
out how to... I did sword swamp to, like... Do

01:59:56.180 --> 01:59:58.920
you feel him moving around inside of you? When

01:59:58.920 --> 02:00:04.560
there's a lot. When there's ten? Jamie, your

02:00:04.560 --> 02:00:09.699
face. Here he comes. No, I got to first get a

02:00:09.699 --> 02:00:17.399
little bit of... You forcing him out now? Can't

02:00:17.399 --> 02:00:26.680
talk. I'll just get some more water. When was

02:00:26.680 --> 02:00:35.069
the first time you did this one? I... I worked

02:00:35.069 --> 02:00:38.649
on it. I started like three or four years ago,

02:00:38.689 --> 02:00:41.449
and it's been a, you know, it's crazy. The first

02:00:41.449 --> 02:00:43.069
time you put the frog in your mouth and swallowed.

02:00:43.069 --> 02:00:44.949
I got salmonella. No, I didn't swallow the first

02:00:44.949 --> 02:00:46.989
time. I just wanted to get comfortable with the

02:00:46.989 --> 02:00:48.750
frog. You got salmonella? Yeah, and then I got

02:00:48.750 --> 02:00:51.470
it again after I tried it the second time, and

02:00:51.470 --> 02:00:54.069
then I built up a resistance to salmonella. Oh,

02:00:54.069 --> 02:00:59.409
jeez. That's good if you like sushi. Mouth empty.

02:00:59.829 --> 02:01:23.199
Right. Here he comes. This is so bizarre. Here

02:01:23.199 --> 02:01:31.279
he comes. It's because I drank so much, so it's

02:01:31.279 --> 02:01:35.279
like I have to locate him. You have to locate

02:01:35.279 --> 02:01:44.699
him. Kind of. The sound. What would you call

02:01:44.699 --> 02:01:56.619
this, Jamie? ASMR? This is so strange. So for

02:01:56.619 --> 02:01:58.800
people that are just listening, I highly recommend

02:01:58.800 --> 02:02:01.760
you go to the video. You're going to have to

02:02:01.760 --> 02:02:04.899
condense that. No, no, no, no, no, no. We're

02:02:04.899 --> 02:02:06.500
going to keep this up exactly the way it is.

02:02:07.600 --> 02:02:21.840
People need to see. Oh. Take out like a liter

02:02:21.840 --> 02:02:34.159
of water. God, this is so strange. Oh, he spit

02:02:34.159 --> 02:02:39.600
on Biggie. That's called the water spout. That's

02:02:39.600 --> 02:02:41.859
how you usually put out the fire. Oh, my God.

02:02:52.239 --> 02:02:54.380
The frog is probably like, what the fuck did

02:02:54.380 --> 02:02:57.000
I do to deserve this? I bet that frog was just

02:02:57.000 --> 02:03:05.880
like an asshole person in another life. That's

02:03:05.880 --> 02:03:10.100
a lot of water. Do we need another bucket? Maybe.

02:03:10.380 --> 02:03:18.819
Go get that plastic bucket in the back. I don't

02:03:18.819 --> 02:03:20.579
know if that's good enough, but for now, we'll

02:03:20.579 --> 02:03:25.060
just use that for now. It is quite preposterous

02:03:25.060 --> 02:03:26.899
to watch the amount of water that's coming out

02:03:26.899 --> 02:03:57.140
of you. Where's he at right now? You got him

02:03:57.140 --> 02:04:03.399
in there? Put him in my hands? Okay. There he

02:04:03.399 --> 02:04:08.199
is. Oh, boy. Here. Little fella. Just watch.

02:04:08.420 --> 02:04:11.060
Little fella. You've had a rough life. You've

02:04:11.060 --> 02:04:14.380
had a road. You've had a road, buddy. So that's

02:04:14.380 --> 02:04:18.760
the frog trick. He's alive. And perfect. Yeah,

02:04:18.899 --> 02:04:21.359
he seems fine. Don't lose him. I don't want to

02:04:21.359 --> 02:04:23.479
lose him. You want to put him back in the jar?

02:04:30.260 --> 02:04:42.420
Water, fresh. Okay. I think I'm going to need

02:04:42.420 --> 02:04:45.939
more than paper towels, Jamie. Yeah, I'm going

02:04:45.939 --> 02:04:49.460
to wash my hands eventually. Oh, there is handcuffs

02:04:49.460 --> 02:04:52.840
here. Oh, you have a pair? Yeah, Jamie. Real

02:04:52.840 --> 02:04:56.960
ones? I don't know. But is that just coincidental?

02:04:57.609 --> 02:05:00.569
No, no, no. There was a guy, Ed Calderon. He's

02:05:00.569 --> 02:05:04.149
a guy who used to work with the Mexican police

02:05:04.149 --> 02:05:08.029
at the border. Let me take a few paper towels,

02:05:08.149 --> 02:05:13.250
too. And he brought us some handcuffs to teach

02:05:13.250 --> 02:05:18.590
us how to get out of them, right? Yeah. Just

02:05:18.590 --> 02:05:22.170
noticed that they were there. Random. That seems

02:05:22.170 --> 02:05:24.770
planned, yeah. But that's really, they were just

02:05:24.770 --> 02:05:28.399
here? He gave them to me. And he gave me a little

02:05:28.399 --> 02:05:31.199
tool to show me how to... A couple tools. How

02:05:31.199 --> 02:05:34.000
to what? How to open them. What's this plastic

02:05:34.000 --> 02:05:37.279
thing on? I have no idea. But he gave you tools

02:05:37.279 --> 02:05:39.600
to show you how to open them. Like how? I don't

02:05:39.600 --> 02:05:41.340
remember. I'd have to go back and watch the video.

02:05:41.460 --> 02:05:42.800
If you ever get caught. Yeah, if you ever get

02:05:42.800 --> 02:05:44.619
handcuffed. Yeah. How to get the fuck out. Oh,

02:05:44.640 --> 02:05:47.039
like how to pick them. How to shove it through

02:05:47.039 --> 02:05:50.399
the thing to kind of like go past the teeth of

02:05:50.399 --> 02:05:53.140
the lock to make it open up. So how to pick them.

02:05:53.260 --> 02:05:58.960
Yes, exactly. Is it not going to work? I don't

02:05:58.960 --> 02:06:01.199
know. What are you trying to do there? I just

02:06:01.199 --> 02:06:11.380
want to see, like... What are you physically

02:06:11.380 --> 02:06:14.119
trying to do? Oh, I just want to see if I can

02:06:14.119 --> 02:06:17.939
actually break them. Break them? Yeah, like break

02:06:17.939 --> 02:06:21.439
the metal. So, like, really break them for real.

02:06:23.520 --> 02:06:26.930
How do you usually do that? I don't know. You

02:06:26.930 --> 02:06:30.069
don't know. No, it's like really hard to break.

02:06:30.770 --> 02:06:33.829
Was it usually easy to break them? No, it's always

02:06:33.829 --> 02:06:36.869
very difficult to break handcuffs because you're

02:06:36.869 --> 02:06:39.109
breaking the handcuffs. Right, but you're trying.

02:06:39.770 --> 02:06:42.750
Yeah. Because there's some sort of technique

02:06:42.750 --> 02:06:55.000
to it or something? Using leverage? How many

02:06:55.000 --> 02:06:57.640
days of your life do you think you've spent fucking

02:06:57.640 --> 02:07:01.199
with handcuffs if you could just boil it all

02:07:01.199 --> 02:07:10.359
down to time? 50? Yeah. This is probably boring

02:07:10.359 --> 02:07:18.289
for, like, anybody that's a big. So you're just

02:07:18.289 --> 02:07:21.890
trying to use the way the attachment as a leverage

02:07:21.890 --> 02:07:25.649
point. Yeah, just that yellow thing. Yeah. That

02:07:25.649 --> 02:07:29.489
thing might be weird, that yellow thing. Yeah,

02:07:29.630 --> 02:07:34.449
I'm trying to use like a... What is the yellow

02:07:34.449 --> 02:07:37.750
thing? I don't know. I don't know. This is just

02:07:37.750 --> 02:07:40.689
how Ed brought them to us. Yeah, I don't know

02:07:40.689 --> 02:07:44.329
if I can get these things broken. Hmm. We can

02:07:44.329 --> 02:07:48.109
keep talking. Now I'm going to be stuck on this

02:07:48.109 --> 02:07:50.130
thing. Yeah, but you'll be so preoccupied. Yeah.

02:07:51.430 --> 02:07:53.250
That frog's like, what the fuck just happened?

02:07:53.390 --> 02:07:55.850
Look at him. He's just sitting there breathing.

02:07:55.970 --> 02:07:59.250
He's chilling. Yeah. Imagine him being a frog.

02:07:59.369 --> 02:08:01.130
You're like, well, this is it. I knew it was

02:08:01.130 --> 02:08:03.750
coming one day. That's why I'm so scared of bass.

02:08:05.449 --> 02:08:09.590
By the way, yeah, the ones I get are like, normally

02:08:09.590 --> 02:08:14.479
they would be used for bait. So I asked the guy,

02:08:14.600 --> 02:08:16.140
I was like, could you give me some of your...

02:08:16.140 --> 02:08:20.939
And they became my daughter's pets. So I've never

02:08:20.939 --> 02:08:26.159
ever injured or hurt a frog. But how did you

02:08:26.159 --> 02:08:27.380
know that that was going to be the case when

02:08:27.380 --> 02:08:29.640
you first swallowed one? The first one you swallowed,

02:08:29.720 --> 02:08:31.180
you probably had to be like... No, I didn't start

02:08:31.180 --> 02:08:33.439
the frog. It started with like bingo balls and

02:08:33.439 --> 02:08:34.939
things like that. And I would put them inside

02:08:34.939 --> 02:08:36.859
and see if they'd come out. But I started playing

02:08:36.859 --> 02:08:39.760
around. So it started with like, you know...

02:08:40.119 --> 02:08:42.140
How much water could I put in? Then how could

02:08:42.140 --> 02:08:44.300
I spout the water out to use it to put out the

02:08:44.300 --> 02:08:46.680
fire? Then could the kerosene float on top? Then

02:08:46.680 --> 02:08:49.079
I went to lamp oil. That's got to be so bad for

02:08:49.079 --> 02:08:51.380
you. Bad for you. What is kerosene like inside

02:08:51.380 --> 02:08:53.880
your body? Do you feel it burning? No, but the

02:08:53.880 --> 02:08:57.819
problem is all that stuff has a residue. What

02:08:57.819 --> 02:08:59.859
is this guy doing, Jamie? It's oil -based. This

02:08:59.859 --> 02:09:03.619
is the kerosene. It's a water spout thing. Haji

02:09:03.619 --> 02:09:06.100
Ali, Egyptian fire eater and human fountain.

02:09:06.319 --> 02:09:08.300
Do you know of this guy? Yeah, that's the guy

02:09:08.300 --> 02:09:09.859
I'm talking about. Oh, there he is. There it

02:09:09.859 --> 02:09:14.159
is. Yeah, he's amazing. Oh, boy. There's a really

02:09:14.159 --> 02:09:16.659
funny clip. See, he's spitting the kerosene,

02:09:16.659 --> 02:09:18.520
and then he puts it out with the water, which

02:09:18.520 --> 02:09:21.300
is underneath because it floats on top. Look

02:09:21.300 --> 02:09:24.920
how much control he has. I saw that act and wanted

02:09:24.920 --> 02:09:29.399
to figure that out. What year is this? Did it

02:09:29.399 --> 02:09:36.800
almost 100 years ago. I mean, that guy. Yeah,

02:09:37.399 --> 02:09:39.359
he was called the Human Fire Hydrant. That had

02:09:39.359 --> 02:09:42.579
to be a rough way to go. However, he died. Because

02:09:42.579 --> 02:09:44.699
he probably did that every day, right? Oh, yeah.

02:09:46.199 --> 02:09:49.699
Forget those. We don't need to do that. They're

02:09:49.699 --> 02:09:51.979
very slippery. So let me get back to the question

02:09:51.979 --> 02:09:53.579
that I had before you ran off because you were

02:09:53.579 --> 02:09:56.920
worried about your arm. Do you... Do you have,

02:09:57.000 --> 02:10:01.159
like, you've done so many insane stunts and so

02:10:01.159 --> 02:10:05.239
many really of these bizarre things that require

02:10:05.239 --> 02:10:09.340
so much of you. Do you, like, have a thing in

02:10:09.340 --> 02:10:11.680
your mind that you have to keep ramping it up

02:10:11.680 --> 02:10:14.119
and that do you have a place that you would ultimately

02:10:14.119 --> 02:10:17.680
like to get to with these things? No, I just

02:10:17.680 --> 02:10:19.819
constantly, like, kind of try to figure out,

02:10:19.840 --> 02:10:22.140
like. what things have been done in the past

02:10:22.140 --> 02:10:24.180
historically and then I try to figure out how

02:10:24.180 --> 02:10:26.000
to make them interesting and then I figure out

02:10:26.000 --> 02:10:30.539
how to make them kind of modern. So it's not

02:10:30.539 --> 02:10:35.720
like a, you know, it's like, it's a small step

02:10:35.720 --> 02:10:38.739
-by -step process and I think about each thing

02:10:38.739 --> 02:10:41.100
and then I try to put them all together. But

02:10:41.100 --> 02:10:42.760
do you feel like you have to keep pushing the

02:10:42.760 --> 02:10:46.520
envelope? Well, I have like a few things that

02:10:46.520 --> 02:10:50.319
I've been trying to work on to... get to that

02:10:50.319 --> 02:10:54.140
place so there is like a it's not a push the

02:10:54.140 --> 02:10:56.000
envelope it's just i have a bunch of things i've

02:10:56.000 --> 02:10:57.659
been trying to how many do you have like on the

02:10:57.659 --> 02:11:00.420
back burner in the back your head i have two

02:11:00.420 --> 02:11:02.520
more crazy ones that i'm trying can you share

02:11:02.520 --> 02:11:09.720
them uh i the the thing i will tell you is that

02:11:09.720 --> 02:11:11.779
if you put them all together the the letters

02:11:11.779 --> 02:11:17.560
all equal out like my name so that and that's

02:11:17.560 --> 02:11:21.210
yeah That's all you can say? Well, yeah. I don't

02:11:21.210 --> 02:11:24.829
want to go too into it. What do you enjoy most?

02:11:24.970 --> 02:11:27.010
Because I feel like if you talk about something

02:11:27.010 --> 02:11:29.210
too much, then you talk it away. I understand.

02:11:29.390 --> 02:11:32.550
Yeah. You take away the magic of, like, he's

02:11:32.550 --> 02:11:34.850
going to do what? Yeah. Like, when it gets announced.

02:11:35.109 --> 02:11:38.770
Yeah. Yeah. Do you enjoy doing these big things,

02:11:38.909 --> 02:11:42.350
or do you enjoy the live shows, or do you enjoy

02:11:42.350 --> 02:11:45.010
freaking people out, just random people out with

02:11:45.010 --> 02:11:47.560
magic? Kind of just, like, all of it. So it's

02:11:47.560 --> 02:11:49.960
not like one specific thing. I kind of love doing

02:11:49.960 --> 02:11:52.079
card tricks. I love doing magic. I love doing

02:11:52.079 --> 02:11:54.479
things from history. I love looking. Like the

02:11:54.479 --> 02:11:58.380
human aquarium guy, you know, the frogs and goldfish

02:11:58.380 --> 02:12:00.779
and stuff, that came from Houdini writing a miracle

02:12:00.779 --> 02:12:02.739
monger. It's all about his act. So it's like

02:12:02.739 --> 02:12:04.939
you look into the history of things that have

02:12:04.939 --> 02:12:07.680
been done, like Haji Ali, the human fire hydrant,

02:12:07.739 --> 02:12:09.720
and you find these. There's a great book that

02:12:09.720 --> 02:12:11.979
Ricky Jay wrote, who's an amazing magician, where

02:12:11.979 --> 02:12:14.079
he discusses and explains everything. You learn

02:12:14.079 --> 02:12:16.279
all these things, put them together, and then...

02:12:16.329 --> 02:12:18.789
What I do that Ricky thought was amazing and

02:12:18.789 --> 02:12:22.949
insane is like actually take these ideas that

02:12:22.949 --> 02:12:26.489
seem impossible but magical. And that's what

02:12:26.489 --> 02:12:29.489
the amazing part is taking them from a hypothetical

02:12:29.489 --> 02:12:32.489
image and then learning how to do them. So that's

02:12:32.489 --> 02:12:34.630
like what's amazing about the whole process to

02:12:34.630 --> 02:12:38.069
me. And Ricky's book called Learning Pigs and

02:12:38.069 --> 02:12:41.069
Firebirds, there's so many bizarre but amazing

02:12:41.069 --> 02:12:43.550
acts that exist in there. So it's like you look

02:12:43.550 --> 02:12:45.329
at them and you're like, no, that can't be real.

02:12:45.390 --> 02:12:47.909
But it was real if you believe it was real. How

02:12:47.909 --> 02:12:53.829
many of you are there out there? I always think

02:12:53.829 --> 02:12:55.750
of stand -up comedians as being a very small

02:12:55.750 --> 02:12:57.909
group of people that kind of only understand

02:12:57.909 --> 02:13:01.069
each other. There's a good amount of amazing

02:13:01.069 --> 02:13:06.920
magicians. How many? A thousand? On the planet?

02:13:07.399 --> 02:13:10.079
No, there's a lot of guys that are on me. Yeah.

02:13:10.279 --> 02:13:12.420
And there's different categories. But the stuff

02:13:12.420 --> 02:13:14.560
that you're doing is not just magic. What I'm

02:13:14.560 --> 02:13:16.600
saying is like this sort of - Oh, like the crazy,

02:13:16.619 --> 02:13:19.380
bizarre, like mixing it all? You're transcending

02:13:19.380 --> 02:13:22.199
magic. You go into this weird realm of what the

02:13:22.199 --> 02:13:23.460
fuck is he doing? Well, the thing is I like to

02:13:23.460 --> 02:13:25.979
use the body as the prop. So I like to figure

02:13:25.979 --> 02:13:27.939
out how to do things where like your body is

02:13:27.939 --> 02:13:29.760
magic. And I think that comes from like I didn't

02:13:29.760 --> 02:13:32.989
have like - You know a lot of many resources

02:13:32.989 --> 02:13:35.550
to like oh go get which is lucky because then

02:13:35.550 --> 02:13:37.430
I was like, okay So what can I do with like what's

02:13:37.430 --> 02:13:39.750
around? Okay an ice pick or a bunch of water

02:13:39.750 --> 02:13:43.609
force you to be a doctor. Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah,

02:13:43.770 --> 02:13:46.050
but like you have to figure it out But you also

02:13:46.050 --> 02:13:48.270
have do you balance it out with like I mean you

02:13:48.270 --> 02:13:50.609
obviously develop some problems from not eating

02:13:50.609 --> 02:13:53.550
that one time and you know You've you've got

02:13:53.550 --> 02:13:56.949
these stunts where they have this possibility

02:13:56.949 --> 02:14:00.579
of physically injuring you permanently Yeah.

02:14:01.260 --> 02:14:04.000
So I worry. To balance out the risks and the

02:14:04.000 --> 02:14:05.979
rewards. Yeah. There's not that many of those

02:14:05.979 --> 02:14:08.520
people out there. I hope not. No, that's what

02:14:08.520 --> 02:14:10.479
I'm saying. Like the people. I would worry about

02:14:10.479 --> 02:14:13.840
them. But you don't worry about yourself. Well,

02:14:13.920 --> 02:14:17.640
I think I'm careful, you know. Yeah. I'm still

02:14:17.640 --> 02:14:20.340
like. So we did one, two, three, four, five,

02:14:20.420 --> 02:14:23.939
six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Ten bucks. Five

02:14:23.939 --> 02:14:28.539
liters, basically. That's like a. I think that's.

02:14:29.070 --> 02:14:31.689
In one shot, I think that's a record. I don't

02:14:31.689 --> 02:14:33.350
think I've actually ever done that many. You

02:14:33.350 --> 02:14:34.949
never drank that much water before? I don't think

02:14:34.949 --> 02:14:38.609
so. I usually cap it a gallon. Well, it's dangerous,

02:14:38.810 --> 02:14:41.369
right? You can die from drinking too much water.

02:14:41.369 --> 02:14:43.689
Water intoxication? Yeah, but I think that's

02:14:43.689 --> 02:14:47.390
if you flush it out too much. But when you combine

02:14:47.390 --> 02:14:48.949
that with other things, then it's dangerous.

02:14:49.069 --> 02:14:54.569
Well, kids have done, like in fraternity, when

02:14:54.569 --> 02:14:57.130
they have to do those hazing rituals, they've

02:14:57.130 --> 02:14:59.420
died. From drinking too much water. There was

02:14:59.420 --> 02:15:02.119
a woman in San Jose. Yeah, it is possible, of

02:15:02.119 --> 02:15:04.819
course. It was San Jose where she was on the

02:15:04.819 --> 02:15:07.140
radio and there was a thing like, how much water

02:15:07.140 --> 02:15:08.659
can you drink? And she wanted to win an Xbox

02:15:08.659 --> 02:15:12.039
for a kid and she died. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's

02:15:12.039 --> 02:15:14.380
when your electrolyte levels get messed up. Is

02:15:14.380 --> 02:15:15.640
that what it is? And your heart stops. Yeah,

02:15:15.779 --> 02:15:19.520
because, yeah. So your water becomes, there's

02:15:19.520 --> 02:15:21.539
too much water in your system and your body doesn't

02:15:21.539 --> 02:15:23.260
know what to do with it. And yeah, that makes

02:15:23.260 --> 02:15:27.680
sense. Yeah. Yeah. And it flushes out and puts

02:15:27.680 --> 02:15:30.260
the imbalance off on your electrolytes. So when

02:15:30.260 --> 02:15:31.380
you do something like this, do you make sure

02:15:31.380 --> 02:15:33.840
that you consume a lot of electrolytes beforehand?

02:15:34.100 --> 02:15:36.100
No, because I couldn't eat or do anything if

02:15:36.100 --> 02:15:40.520
you're going to do the frog. And why is it important?

02:15:40.619 --> 02:15:42.960
My friend told me, do not do the frog out here.

02:15:43.020 --> 02:15:44.960
He said, it sounds gross. I don't want you to

02:15:44.960 --> 02:15:46.460
have to do that because I'm going to have to

02:15:46.460 --> 02:15:51.300
listen to it. It definitely does sound gross.

02:15:52.610 --> 02:15:55.210
But you feel okay after drinking all that water

02:15:55.210 --> 02:15:57.750
that quickly? Yeah, but I spouted it out. That's

02:15:57.750 --> 02:15:59.550
true. Most of it, right? There's got to be a

02:15:59.550 --> 02:16:00.750
lot still in you. Yeah, which is on purpose.

02:16:01.170 --> 02:16:05.449
Yeah. Jesus. You're a weird man, David Blaine.

02:16:05.569 --> 02:16:07.850
You really are. That's what I was getting at

02:16:07.850 --> 02:16:09.430
when I'm saying there's not a lot of people like

02:16:09.430 --> 02:16:11.590
you out there. I'm glad you're there. I really

02:16:11.590 --> 02:16:14.130
am. I'm glad you're out there, first of all,

02:16:14.170 --> 02:16:15.909
because I think you're very entertaining, but

02:16:15.909 --> 02:16:20.069
also because I love when there's a new type of

02:16:20.069 --> 02:16:23.199
person that I meet. And you're – there's not

02:16:23.199 --> 02:16:25.779
– I've met a lot of people, but you're in this

02:16:25.779 --> 02:16:28.520
new like, oh, and then there's this guy. This

02:16:28.520 --> 02:16:32.680
is like a totally new frequency of human. Or

02:16:32.680 --> 02:16:39.680
just freak. Take out the Quincy. Both. But, I

02:16:39.680 --> 02:16:42.620
mean, it's a very strange path that you're on.

02:16:44.239 --> 02:16:47.239
I mean, ultimately, it's like at the end of the

02:16:47.239 --> 02:16:50.120
day, it's trying to just figure out how to make

02:16:50.120 --> 02:16:53.399
things that seem as close to magic as possible.

02:16:53.479 --> 02:16:56.000
And the process is really difficult and tricky

02:16:56.000 --> 02:17:00.389
and laborious to get to. But eventually you start

02:17:00.389 --> 02:17:02.510
to figure, oh, this could look magical. What's

02:17:02.510 --> 02:17:04.329
this? Or this could, you know. But you seem like

02:17:04.329 --> 02:17:07.409
a very joyful person because of all this. You

02:17:07.409 --> 02:17:11.190
clearly love what you do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look

02:17:11.190 --> 02:17:13.430
at that. You're sparked up. Yeah. Yeah. That's

02:17:13.430 --> 02:17:16.209
why I do it. No, you love it. Yeah. That's what's

02:17:16.209 --> 02:17:17.870
interesting. It's like such a strange thing to

02:17:17.870 --> 02:17:22.090
love to do. Stand in blocks of ice and hold the

02:17:22.090 --> 02:17:23.930
water. No, but what you do is crazy. You fight.

02:17:24.950 --> 02:17:27.469
I haven't done that in a long time. But I'm saying

02:17:27.469 --> 02:17:31.270
that's. crazy like it is maybe but that's the

02:17:31.270 --> 02:17:33.690
same it's the same you're pushing your body to

02:17:33.690 --> 02:17:36.709
do things that most people but you're basically

02:17:36.709 --> 02:17:39.309
you're living in a place where you have to override

02:17:39.309 --> 02:17:41.530
discomfort and you have to override what your

02:17:41.530 --> 02:17:43.870
body's trying to tell you not to do and you push

02:17:43.870 --> 02:17:47.889
yourself you know it's and then and it's that

02:17:47.889 --> 02:17:50.250
whole journey of pushing yourself to do things

02:17:50.250 --> 02:17:52.649
that you physically don't think you can do or

02:17:52.649 --> 02:17:56.840
to set a goal that that's the best part Well,

02:17:56.840 --> 02:17:59.899
I'm fascinated by people that are really far

02:17:59.899 --> 02:18:04.200
down on a path. We ever brought up that woman

02:18:04.200 --> 02:18:08.379
Stephanie Millinger on the podcast before? I

02:18:08.379 --> 02:18:10.120
follow her on Instagram, and I know I've posted

02:18:10.120 --> 02:18:12.520
some of her stuff on Instagram, but she's like

02:18:12.520 --> 02:18:16.559
a contortionist. She has, like, incredible balance

02:18:16.559 --> 02:18:19.620
and core strength. And she's this very small

02:18:19.620 --> 02:18:23.360
woman who does insane things with her body. Like,

02:18:23.420 --> 02:18:26.079
she did this one. She's on a handstand, and she

02:18:26.079 --> 02:18:29.479
bends her back so that her butt touches her head.

02:18:29.600 --> 02:18:32.780
Like, her spine is so flexible that you look

02:18:32.780 --> 02:18:34.280
at some of the things that she does, and they

02:18:34.280 --> 02:18:37.379
don't seem to be, like, watch this. Look at this.

02:18:37.909 --> 02:18:40.989
Yeah. Watch how she does this. And also she's

02:18:40.989 --> 02:18:43.850
bouncing on these posts, right? So look what

02:18:43.850 --> 02:18:46.090
she does with her back. Wow. Look at that. That

02:18:46.090 --> 02:18:49.209
is amazing. Amazing. Yeah. And then she stands

02:18:49.209 --> 02:18:51.989
with one hand. And by the way, she does this

02:18:51.989 --> 02:18:55.030
like off the side of cliffs. And she's incredible.

02:18:55.149 --> 02:18:58.270
Like look at the way her body is contorting.

02:18:58.270 --> 02:19:01.469
Yeah. That's incredible. She's pressing her butt

02:19:01.469 --> 02:19:04.819
against the top of her head. In the craziest

02:19:04.819 --> 02:19:06.860
way. It doesn't seem like a person should be

02:19:06.860 --> 02:19:09.040
able to do that. And the amount of physical strength

02:19:09.040 --> 02:19:11.920
that it takes to move your body like this and

02:19:11.920 --> 02:19:14.959
balance while you're doing it, it's just the

02:19:14.959 --> 02:19:20.420
years of time. This is what I'm saying. She's

02:19:20.420 --> 02:19:23.059
so far down the path. See if you can find the

02:19:23.059 --> 02:19:24.700
one where she bounces on the plates. That one

02:19:24.700 --> 02:19:26.819
in the middle where you see the plate. Watch

02:19:26.819 --> 02:19:30.329
this. so she takes a this is like a standard

02:19:30.329 --> 02:19:33.110
olympic weightlifting plate right so she puts

02:19:33.110 --> 02:19:37.600
it down so it's on its edge And then she stands

02:19:37.600 --> 02:19:40.719
it on top of a bar, right? So you've got this

02:19:40.719 --> 02:19:45.559
bar that's like a small chin -up bar. Oh, yeah,

02:19:45.559 --> 02:19:48.700
yeah, yeah. So it's a round thing bouncing on

02:19:48.700 --> 02:19:51.399
another round thing. That is amazing. And then

02:19:51.399 --> 02:19:55.399
she lifts her whole body all the way up and over

02:19:55.399 --> 02:19:58.780
and does a handstand on this fucking thing. I

02:19:58.780 --> 02:20:02.020
mean, she's amazing. It's unbelievable. And again,

02:20:02.159 --> 02:20:06.559
always smiling, always like joyful, loves this.

02:20:06.559 --> 02:20:09.360
But the physical strength that it takes to do

02:20:09.360 --> 02:20:10.760
something like that and the kind of balance,

02:20:10.920 --> 02:20:12.819
that's what I'm talking about. Like someone who's

02:20:12.819 --> 02:20:16.079
on this crazy path where if you asked someone,

02:20:16.159 --> 02:20:17.920
could someone do that? You'd be like, no, your

02:20:17.920 --> 02:20:19.600
body doesn't work like that. That's not how a

02:20:19.600 --> 02:20:22.760
body works. But it does. You just have to take

02:20:22.760 --> 02:20:25.760
these little baby steps for years. And then you

02:20:25.760 --> 02:20:27.260
look back and you're in a different place. And

02:20:27.260 --> 02:20:29.959
then also you find a version of it and then you

02:20:29.959 --> 02:20:32.200
figure out how to make it your own. Yes. Yeah.

02:20:32.319 --> 02:20:34.979
Taking something and then made it like a whole.

02:20:35.180 --> 02:20:40.979
Yes. New art. Right. Poetic. Yeah. Or like Cirque

02:20:40.979 --> 02:20:45.579
du Soleil. I've seen most of the Cirque du Soleil

02:20:45.579 --> 02:20:48.479
shows. Every time I go, I'm like, how the fuck?

02:20:48.479 --> 02:20:50.620
How is that possible? What are they? They're

02:20:50.620 --> 02:20:53.780
aliens. Yeah. But they're on a path. They're

02:20:53.780 --> 02:20:57.159
just really far down on this path of extreme

02:20:57.159 --> 02:21:01.200
dedication, extreme focus. And that's what you're

02:21:01.200 --> 02:21:04.280
doing. You're just doing it with bizarre physical

02:21:04.280 --> 02:21:07.850
feats and magic. It's very interesting. It's

02:21:07.850 --> 02:21:10.170
very interesting. I'm really happy that you're

02:21:10.170 --> 02:21:12.850
around. I really am. I enjoy the fact that a

02:21:12.850 --> 02:21:15.930
person like you exists. Oh, thank you. And I

02:21:15.930 --> 02:21:17.389
want to thank you for being here too, man. I

02:21:17.389 --> 02:21:18.829
really enjoyed the fuck out of it. It was very

02:21:18.829 --> 02:21:20.309
cool. Very cool to talk to you too. I've been

02:21:20.309 --> 02:21:22.750
wanting to meet you for a long time. My pleasure.

02:21:22.829 --> 02:21:25.129
My honor. Thank you very much. Thank you. So

02:21:25.129 --> 02:21:27.450
one more time, this will most likely be taking

02:21:27.450 --> 02:21:31.040
place August 31st. But we will let everybody

02:21:31.040 --> 02:21:32.799
know. We'll put it on Instagram. We'll put it

02:21:32.799 --> 02:21:35.280
on Twitter. And if there's any sort of a change,

02:21:35.459 --> 02:21:38.260
let me know and we'll let everybody know. Great.

02:21:38.459 --> 02:21:39.899
Thank you, brother. Appreciate it, man. Thank

02:21:39.899 --> 02:21:40.940
you, man. Goodbye, everybody.