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Welcome to this curated educational transcript of the Joe Rogan Experience. In this session, we provide a deep-dive examination of the critical perspectives and historical dialogues presented in Episode #2018. Our mission is to offer a high-fidelity, searchable research resource for students of cultural history, emerging technology, and global discourse. This transcript has been specifically optimized for academic reference, linguistic study, and archival preservation regarding Modern Music Evolution, Digital Creativity, and the Intersection of Art and Technology. Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan

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Experience. Showing by day, Joe Rogan Podcast

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by night, all day. We're up. What's happening,

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my brother? I'm hanging out. Dude, you look fucking

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great. I told you that when I saw you, but I

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want to tell you on air. You look fucking great,

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man. You said you lost 60? Like 60. I was like

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240. Now I'm like 185. That's amazing. Yes, sir.

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And you did it just by cutting out soda. Yeah,

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I don't drink. A lot of shows. Yeah, like shows,

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soda. Soda's so bad. It's so bad. It's so bad,

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but it's so good. I'll have a soda. I'm a bad

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boy, and I have a monster energy. Every now and

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then. But Celsius is so good, too. Have you had

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one of those? Yeah, I have. They're good. It's

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so good. The key to those things is just every

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now and then. That's the thing. Every now and

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then, you reward yourself with a Coca -Cola.

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You're like, ah, this is nice. On these hot Texas

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days, I've been here. We did Dallas two days

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yesterday. Back to back. Yesterday and the night

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before. I'm coming to see you tomorrow night.

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Let's go. I'm coming to Houston. Let's go. Let's

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go. Did you buy tickets? Yeah. Aw, Joe, you didn't

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have to do that. Because if you said we hooked

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you up, I was like, what the hell? I didn't know.

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But since you said you'd buy them, thank you

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so much for coming. My pleasure. My pleasure.

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I'm excited. Me too, man. I'm excited, man. But

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yeah, especially out in this heat, dude. Just

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like, you know what? I had a great show. You

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know what? I'm feeling a little bit naughty.

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I'm going to have myself Coke on ice. Yeah. So

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good. Reward yourself. The problem is when people

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do it all day, every day. Yeah. Your body doesn't

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know what to do with that kind of sugar because

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it's so unnatural. Your body never gets sugar

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like that in the wild. You get sugar in fruit.

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When you have a glass of sugar water, it's just

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pouring right into your bloodstream. Your body's

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like, what the fuck is this? I like guarana.

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Ooh, that's good stuff. That is crazy stuff.

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Yeah. It's naturally caffeinated or something?

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Yeah, the berries. It's crazy. Yeah, that's acai.

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That's the same thing as when you get an acai

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bowl. That's guarana. That's the berries. Man,

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I remember going to Brazil the first time, and

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I was like, oh, this soda's so good. And also,

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I was like... bouncing off the wall fucking like

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I'm like oh my god dude I feel crazy right now.

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It's delicious though. It's so good. What is

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that called? Guarana? What is the name of that

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soda? I think that's what it's called by Antarctica.

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Is that what it is? I think it's an Antarctica

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brand. Not from Antarctica. Super legit. They

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know how to eat over there too. In Antarctica?

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No in Brazil. Guarana Antarctica. Yeah there

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it is. That stuff's the shit. Dude and they give

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you a beer. You go down to the Like the beach,

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and they give you a beer in like this rock that's

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like ice cold. Well, I don't know if it's a rock,

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but whatever it is. Ceramic? I don't know, but

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it's really cold. And the beer is like the coldest

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beer I've ever had. And it was so good. On the

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beach. It was so good. They know how to party

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down there on the beach in Brazil. It's so fun.

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Yeah, it's a great country. We're going down

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there for a tour. Nice. So we got a lot of tours.

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So we're doing this U .S. tour. Then we're doing

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seven days off. Then we go to South America,

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I think. So I'm excited. Wow. Have you performed

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in South America before? Yes, sir. Yeah? Yeah,

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rock in Rio and stuff. And it's so much fun,

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man. Yeah? They love music. It's, like, so much

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fun. It's just, like, there's not, like, a piece,

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like, an ounce of hate in the whole crowd. Everybody's

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just having such a great time. And that makes

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me... more excited, you know? Because, like,

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you know, sometimes I'll go do these shows, like,

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a lot of, like, more corporate shows where I'm

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just like, hey, do you guys even really like

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me or know who I am? But it's like everybody

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there is just having so much fun. Right. The

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corporate ones are weird, right? It's so, it's,

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I have fun, but a lot of the time it's like you

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can't read the crowd because everybody's, you

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know, I feel like more like a Like a jazz band

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or like a lounge band at a restaurant or something,

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you know? Right. Which is weird. It's weird.

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It's weird that they want to pay that much money

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to have someone come and then it's just that

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you're a big name and it's like, look, we got

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Post Malone, but, you know, I'm over here talking

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to somebody, not paying attention. And, yeah,

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I don't know. You know, people who pay to come

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to the show, I'm like, okay, you guys paid. You

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guys definitely, you guys at least know who I

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am for sure. But yeah, I'm not sure. I can't

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read the crowd. I went to my friend Dana White,

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and he had a birthday party when he was 40, and

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they hired Stone Temple Pilots. Sick. It was

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sick. Sick. First of all, those motherfuckers

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performed like there was 80 ,000 people there.

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And it was one of those things where we had to

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get people to stop and pay attention. Guys, fucking

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Stone Temple Pilots is here. Yeah, I don't know.

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But they went hard. I mean, they did a, like,

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full energy show. It was very impressive. It

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was, like, very inspirational. It's like, wow,

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these guys are at a birthday party. Yeah. And

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they're giving them fucking Stone Temple Pilots.

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Yeah, that's badass. It was badass. It was amazing.

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It was amazing. I don't know if I could, like,

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you just hear a fucking interstate love song.

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Yeah. And you're like, how do you talk? How do

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you, how do you not just like, how are you like,

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what the, wait, I don't know. Well, just, you

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know, hobnobbing. That's the thing. Hobnobbing.

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And you go to those things like, and everybody's

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already hobnobbing. So people like social networking

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and there's people with motives and they're trying

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to be more friendly with the guy at the top and

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this kind of shit. And then all of a sudden.

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But they fucking went hard. They went hard like

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they had the best fans in the world, and there

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was like 80 ,000 of them. It was a fucking amazing

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show. It was so impressive, man. It was so impressive.

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Another band with Stone, Queens of the Stone

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Age. Oh, those guys are great. I want to see

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them. I have not seen them live, but I had Josh

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on the show. How was he? Very cool guy. We had

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a good friend in Bourdain. Yeah, he was good

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friends with a poor day, too He's a fucking interesting

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dude though. Very interesting dude and their

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music is fucking it's so smart. So interesting

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Yeah, it's so smart. Yeah, it's it's it's so

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distinctive like their music is so distinctive

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like you hear a song It sounds like them right,

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you know he's got a voice man and he can write

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a hell of a song hell of a song yeah it's just

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i don't know like some of the stuff they do i'm

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like how do you even think of that right there's

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so many artists like that but i'm like in that

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setting and then that first record with with

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dave like just yeah banging on dude oh my god

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it's so it's so good yeah it's so good well we're

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at an amazing time for art For both music and

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a lot of other things, too. There's just so much

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good shit out there now. That's true. But I figured,

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you know, that the way things are moving, I got

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like four or five months before people like the

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Robot songs more than my songs. I don't think

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that's ever going to happen. Because I hear some

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of them, and I'm like, oh, man, that's so good,

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dude. Who wrote that? Was it ChatGPT who wrote

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that? Fuck, man, that's a great song. It is a

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great song, but people will know. People will

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know. Sure. Like there's women that do not want

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diamonds that were made in a lab. Sure. Which

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is crazy because it's just a diamond. Like they

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have an ability now to man make diamonds. They

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have some crazy machine and they compress carbon

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and they can make diamonds. But women only like

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them if they're coming out of the ground. Well,

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I know how to make gold. Really? Yeah. I can

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turn anything into gold. I watched a video on

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it. You watched YouTube? Yeah. Alchemy? Yeah,

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I was watching a little alchemy video. So all

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you need to do is ferment your piss for like

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a year or so, and then you're good. And then

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eat it. Then eat it, by the way. You got to eat

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your piss? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how you make

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gold? Yeah, I think so. That's what they were

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saying. People used to try to make gold. They

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used to try to figure out a way to make gold.

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Isaac Newton. Did he really? Yeah, he was super

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into alchemy. Like one of the smartest dudes

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ever. Oh, if you could figure out, I mean, I

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guess back then they probably thought, I wonder

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if you can. I wonder if there is some way to

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do it with a certain amount of energy that we

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don't currently possess where you can take other

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metals and turn them into different metals. I

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mean, diamonds. I mean, that's a pressure thing.

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Spray paint. Yeah. You can make anything gold,

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really. I love gold. Fool's gold. Yeah. I have

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a friend who lives up in Alaska and he owns a

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gold mine. Have you ever seen the Boneyard Instagram

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page? No, sir. It's insane. He's got this area

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in Alaska that apparently there was a mass die

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off there that probably had something to do with

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a comet impact somewhere around the Younger Dryas

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period. And there's tons of woolly mammoth bones

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there. He has warehouses filled with them. And

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it's all his land. And he's a gold miner. And

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he's wealthy. And he doesn't give a fuck. This

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guy Johnny comes on here smoking cigarettes,

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telling the story of his life. And he's got warehouses

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full of priceless stone bones. These fucking

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ancient... Like cave bear heads and step bisons.

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That's a junk drawer. This is the most valuable

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shit in the world. That's crazy. He's got warehouses

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filled with it. Was that an ariak? I don't know

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what the fuck that is. It's like a horn stem.

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He's got teeth and horns and they found certain

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cats. What is that? They don't know what that

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is yet. They found that. It's mummified. It's

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a tiny little mummified creature. Oh, that's

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one of them Alaskan chupacabras. They have to

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get that examined. He has so much shit. He's

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kind of an expert on it now, but he kind of has

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to bring people in to tell them, hey, what the

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fuck is this? Yeah, that's crazy. They just hose

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the side of this cliff. They just hose down the

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permafrost, and then bones start poking up. And

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then they go in further, and they've just been

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doing this for years now. It's insane. That's

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so cool. It's fucking cool. You never know what

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you're going to get. They find dinosaurs and

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stuff over there? They haven't found dinosaurs.

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It's all stuff from... I guess it's a woolly

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mammoth, a dinosaur? No, a woolly mammoth's an

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ancient elephant. Right. How long did they exist

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for? Did they hang out with dinosaurs? No. Okay,

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so they were never hanging out with dinos. You

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never saw a T -Rex or a Spinosaurus and a woolly

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mammoth hanging out? No. I'd like to go to that

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party, though. I think the T -Rexes would have

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ate them all. You know what I just found out?

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This is fucking crazy. Sharks are older than

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trees. Sharks have existed forever. before trees

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existed i get what like 50 million years before

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trees there were sharks that's crazy that's crazy

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so i i mean i don't know maybe it makes sense

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since yeah look at that here it goes so uh trees

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uh it's so weird to just talk about trees is

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like did you hear sharks was older than trees

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like there are two people So trees as we familiarly

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know them, a primary trunk, large height, and

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a crown of leaves and fronds, didn't appear on

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the planet until the Devonian period some 360

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million years ago. You might be surprised to

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learn that sharks are older than trees. They've

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been around for at least 400 million years. That's

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crazy. That's fucking bonkers. So, I mean, did

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life come? Life was... From the water? Yeah,

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most likely. So, I mean, it kind of makes sense,

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I guess. But imagine just like what shark went

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up onto the land and became a tree. You know

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what I mean? I don't think it worked that way.

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Well, I don't know how it worked. I wasn't there.

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But there must have been like some kind of amoeba

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or life form that slid up onto land and was like,

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I'm going to be... I'm going to be a plant. I'm

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going to be a tree. Yeah. And then another guy's

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like, you can fucking be a tree. I'm being this

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fucking massive aquatic creature that can just

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bite anything in half. What's bizarre is when

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you think of the variety, just the sheer variety

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of life forms that exist on this planet, both

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plants and animals and mushrooms, which breathe

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air. Mushrooms breathe air like we do. That's

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pretty cool. Yeah. They don't do the photosynthesis

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thing. Well, now I feel bad. They don't. Well,

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don't. I just ate. I think they want you to.

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I have a theory. He does. They're trying to get

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in there. Are they? Yeah, I think so. You should

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do an experiment and have a mushroom. You know

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how they do, like, how trees go towards the light?

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They end up growing more towards where there's

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the most light? Yeah. If, like, the shroom grows

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towards a human. Like, eat me. I don't think

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they grow towards humans, but one of the... Have

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you ever heard of the stone tape theory? No,

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sir. The stone date theory is there's this guy

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who's an ethnobotanist and like a psychedelic

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guru. His name is Terrence McKenna. And Terrence

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McKenna had this theory, and it coincides with

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the – there's a lot of interesting things about

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it, but it's about the doubling of the human

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brain size. Apparently, the doubling of the human

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brain size is the biggest mystery in the entire

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fossil record because it happened fairly quickly.

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It happened over a period of like two million

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years. I missed that boat. Yeah. I don't think

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you did, dude. I don't think you did. You're

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smart as fuck. Shut the fuck up. Thank you, sir.

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But this time period was when lower – so what

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happened was that the climate changed and the

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rainforest receded into grasslands. And so a

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lot of these hominids came out of the trees and

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they started experimenting with different food

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sources. Oh, there's like a whole video about

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it. So these mushrooms grew on – On cow shit.

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So they've observed all these different primates

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flipping over cow patties and eating beetles

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and grubs on them. Sure, sure. And they would

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probably experiment with the mushrooms that grow

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on them. And his thought was that mushrooms in

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low doses increase visual acuity, so it makes

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you a better hunter. It emphasizes a sense of

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community, so it would make you have better tribal

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interactions. That would benefit. It makes people

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horny. That would benefit breeding. And then

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there's also, like, his brother Dennis McKenna,

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he explained it to me, but I'll fuck it up if

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I try to recall it. But it's essentially that

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some of the elements and how psilocybin interacts

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with your mind, it helps the facilitation of

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language. And he thinks that all those things

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coincided with climate change. So as these rainforests

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receded, these... Lower hominids came out, tried

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mushrooms, started eating them and kept eating

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them for millions of years. And that was a part

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of the diet. And as they did this and as they

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understood what to get and what to eat, they

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looked for it and they ate it all the time. And

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it probably gave them a lot of ideas for how

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to make tools. It probably gave them ideas like

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how to harness fire. And he thinks it's the source

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of human evolution. Shroomies. Shrooms. That's

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amazing. Amazing. I believe it. And they're illegal,

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which is hilarious. Are they? Imagine that. Yeah.

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Federally. They're federally. Yeah. They grow

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whether you like them or not. Not that I have

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them there. My buddy Duncan lived in Asheville,

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North Carolina, and they had so many shrooms

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that were growing on cow shit that they started

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giving the cows a certain kind of feed to discourage

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the fungus growth. They put chemicals in their

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feed to kill the fucking fungus, the most natural

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thing. Can you get in trouble? Say you have a

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bunch of cattle, right? Can you get in trouble

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and then someone from the DEA shows up and starts

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flipping over your patties? That would be a hard

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thing. I mean, they'd have to really be going

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after you because obviously that shit just grows

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naturally. Right. And it's not like, you don't

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have to do anything. They're everywhere. They're

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everywhere. Like Duncan said, it's like there's

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– because the way mushrooms work is there's spores,

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right? But then there's the most of the – what

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you see that pops out of the ground is like the

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fruit of the actual mushroom. Right. The real

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mushroom is underground. The real mushroom is

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the mycelium, the spore, all the stuff that connects

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all of the vegetable life, all the vegetation

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life form together. Does that have psilocybin?

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Some of it does. I think just the fruiting bodies

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probably do. Just the ones that come out of the

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earth are probably the ones. I don't know, though.

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I don't know that. I wonder if there's like worms

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down there getting high as fuck. They probably

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are. Little critters. They're probably connecting.

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They're probably connecting. very weird way they

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get to get to the roots and just take like a

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big and then they're like oh my fucking god yeah

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i'm so high just absorbing it absorbing it through

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the soil they're just absorbing oh the see that's

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good maybe imagine it's all just in there and

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then like you get some like shroom corn so you

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can just eat like a an ear of corn and yeah get

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super Fucking rocked. Well, you know, they used

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to accidentally get high because they would get

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ergot, would poison their wheat and their barley.

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So it's like a certain fungus that grows on wheat,

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and it gives you an LSD -like effect. And they

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think that that might have been the source of

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the Salem witch trials. Wow. Because at the time

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where this was taking place, they had apparently

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had a late frost, or an early frost, rather.

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And apparently when they have an early frost,

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it... makes these plants more subject to ergot

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poisoning and then they did some samples on some

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soil samples they did find ergot i think they

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might have even like tested some things and found

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ergot in them but they so what they think was

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happening was these people were getting bad wheat

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that had ergot poisoning and so a lot of them

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would die because like there was a big one a

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big breakout of ergot poisoning in france A few

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years back. Not a few years back. Quite a while

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back. But it was the same kind of thing. A bunch

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of people died from ergot, and other people were

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just tripping balls. I was going to make an ergot

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joke, but I was going to say, didn't Hugh Jackman

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win an ergot? Does he have an ergot, though?

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Sorry to go off topic. What is an ergot? It's

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like an Emmy, Grammy. Oscar and Tony, I think

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is what it is. Oh, that's what it is, right.

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Yeah, he's probably got all those, right? He's

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so talented. Yeah, that guy can do everything.

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He's missing an Oscar for that guy. Oh, come

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on, Hugh. How does a man have an Oscar for Wolverine?

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I know. What the fuck? What are they, communists?

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What the fuck's going on? That guy's awesome.

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He's amazing. He was jacked, man. He got jacked

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for Wolverine. He got fucking jacked. He's amazing.

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He does it all? Yeah. He's like Will Smith. Will

00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:21.200
Smith can do everything. It's so cool. Yeah.

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There's people out there like Jamie Foxx. You

00:19:23.630 --> 00:19:25.569
can do anything. Anything. Anything. Bieber can

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do anything. Anything. It's crazy. I'm like,

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just much like the double brain size thing, I

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miss the boat on those jeans. But you didn't

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miss it for making music. It's like your brain

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is designed specifically for what you do. It's

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what's beautiful. It's like you found the thing

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that your brain works perfectly for. Everybody's

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brain is different, man. Yes, sir. Autotune really

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unlocked a whole lot of opportunity for me. So

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thank you, Antares, our inventor of said program.

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Don't you think that as ChatGPT can make Post

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Malone songs, people are still going to want

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to know it came from you? That's going to be

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more valuable to people. There's people that

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love your songs just because they sound good.

00:20:10.849 --> 00:20:12.589
Yes, sir. But there's also people that love your

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songs because they come from you. Yes, sir. I

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understand that. I guess the thing that I'm concerned

00:20:18.890 --> 00:20:26.430
is pretty soon, you can still tell if it's an

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AI song, right? Right. Now. But the way that

00:20:30.190 --> 00:20:33.809
it's moving, like, I don't know. My buddy, Lou,

00:20:33.970 --> 00:20:35.930
Louis Bell, he produces a bunch of my stuff,

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and we write together, and he's the most talented,

00:20:38.450 --> 00:20:42.369
smart dude ever. But he taught me about, like,

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epochs. and how many epochs a better AI template

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is. And pretty soon, dude, it's going to be really,

00:20:52.569 --> 00:20:56.750
really good. It's just going so fast. So I don't

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know. Yeah. But then they'll just do a video.

00:21:01.829 --> 00:21:04.309
It'll be like, guys, I made this song. It's so

00:21:04.309 --> 00:21:07.170
emotional. This really comes from my heart. But

00:21:07.170 --> 00:21:10.480
it's just a robot talking. I don't know. Not

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a robot. More like a deep fake or something.

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Like, guys, I wrote this song crazy, and it's

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just an AI song. And I'm like, well, fuck, that's

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better than anything I could have ever made.

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So I don't know. It's not going to be better.

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I think there's a thing about something coming

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from an artist. As they're doing all these amazing

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AI images, they're very cool to look at. But

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to me, it's cooler if I know a person made them.

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It definitely is cooler. I don't know. It's just

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like, I feel like we look at it different. Like,

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I feel like the attention span is getting so

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short now with like short form content and stuff

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like that. And it's super instant gratification.

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So it's like, why as a fan of someone, right?

00:22:00.509 --> 00:22:02.829
Even as a fan in a couple of years, I don't see

00:22:02.829 --> 00:22:05.599
why they're like, hey, I want. Post Malone to

00:22:05.599 --> 00:22:08.640
make a song about this thing that specifically

00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:11.920
happened to me with the specific person's name

00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:15.039
in it, with this stuff, and this is super relatable

00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:18.359
to me, and that's what I want. So then you can

00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:20.880
just type in the prompt, all this shit, and it'll

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just shit you out a song, and it'll be the most

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personalized experience for you. That's weird.

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Isn't that weird? That's fucking weird. But that's

00:22:30.380 --> 00:22:34.210
exactly where it's going. Yeah, 100%. 100%. There's

00:22:34.210 --> 00:22:37.190
a ton of fake advertisements online right now

00:22:37.190 --> 00:22:39.369
of me. Yeah. Selling products. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:22:39.769 --> 00:22:41.849
It's just my voice. This is the most amazing

00:22:41.849 --> 00:22:42.690
thing ever. Yeah, and I got suckered out of it

00:22:42.690 --> 00:22:44.829
figuring out you never bought those boner pills.

00:22:45.049 --> 00:22:47.430
You never endorsed those boner pills. And I was

00:22:47.430 --> 00:22:48.829
like, oh, they're good enough for Joe. I mean,

00:22:48.849 --> 00:22:51.009
fuck. They didn't work. There's so many things

00:22:51.009 --> 00:22:54.049
that are selling. They're selling so many things.

00:22:54.109 --> 00:22:57.150
I found like 10 of them. It's weird. Yeah, it's

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crazy. They can get, it's pretty close. You can

00:23:00.009 --> 00:23:02.420
kind of tell when you listen. Something's off.

00:23:02.759 --> 00:23:06.220
There's the uncanny valley, I guess. There's

00:23:06.220 --> 00:23:08.680
something off, but it's pretty close. You do

00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:11.019
a podcast, so talking about like Epoch. So I

00:23:11.019 --> 00:23:15.259
guess you know Epoch's in like AI. Yeah, so you

00:23:15.259 --> 00:23:19.779
have so many because your job is literally just

00:23:19.779 --> 00:23:22.359
talking to silence. You know what I mean? There's

00:23:22.359 --> 00:23:24.339
no music. There's no background noise. There's

00:23:24.339 --> 00:23:26.220
no nothing. You're just having a conversation.

00:23:26.599 --> 00:23:30.480
Right. And so they can take... all of your episodes

00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:34.240
and just run it through this thing. And so it's

00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:38.180
all your nuance and intricacies in the way you

00:23:38.180 --> 00:23:40.940
talk and shit like that. You know, your breasts,

00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:43.779
all that stuff. They have all of it because it's

00:23:43.779 --> 00:23:46.799
uninterrupted by, you know, music or background.

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They'll probably even be able to figure out a

00:23:48.940 --> 00:23:51.579
way to get you to make noises you've never made

00:23:51.579 --> 00:23:54.099
just by knowing the range that you have that's

00:23:54.099 --> 00:23:56.700
possible. Like, uh? Yeah, like some kind of weird

00:23:56.700 --> 00:24:05.420
scream or something. Now they got that one. They'll

00:24:05.420 --> 00:24:09.019
be able to just know what the shape of your vocal

00:24:09.019 --> 00:24:11.779
box was. I think that's one of the ways that

00:24:11.779 --> 00:24:14.400
when they look at ancient primates, they test

00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:19.099
the size of where the opening of the mouth and

00:24:19.099 --> 00:24:21.220
what kind of sounds they could make and what

00:24:21.220 --> 00:24:25.220
that shit would sound like. Yeah, that's so weird

00:24:25.220 --> 00:24:31.279
how like... Were they wrong about the noises

00:24:31.279 --> 00:24:34.000
that dinosaurs make? I don't think they know.

00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:36.299
I don't think they know. I mean, if you watch

00:24:36.299 --> 00:24:38.319
Jurassic Park, it's just whatever sounds cool.

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Because if you ask someone to make a dinosaur

00:24:41.460 --> 00:24:45.109
noise, they're going to do like, ah! Right, but

00:24:45.109 --> 00:24:47.269
what benefit would it be for a dinosaur to make

00:24:47.269 --> 00:24:49.490
noise? The thing is that no lizards make noise.

00:24:49.650 --> 00:24:52.369
Komodo dragons don't make noise. Crocodiles don't

00:24:52.369 --> 00:24:54.410
make noise. No reptiles make noise. No snakes

00:24:54.410 --> 00:24:57.109
make noise. So why would we ever think that dinosaurs

00:24:57.109 --> 00:24:59.109
would be so stupid that they'd just be yelling?

00:24:59.289 --> 00:25:01.470
Well, rattlesnakes, exactly. They just run around,

00:25:01.630 --> 00:25:04.609
like, scaring off everything they're trying to.

00:25:05.549 --> 00:25:07.829
Alligators growl. They do growl. Okay, alligators

00:25:07.829 --> 00:25:09.529
growl. But they don't roar. They don't bark or

00:25:09.529 --> 00:25:12.420
anything. Right. That's a cool sound for sure.

00:25:12.619 --> 00:25:15.400
It's probably a burp. He's probably eating someone's

00:25:15.400 --> 00:25:17.859
foot right now. Swallowing someone's fucking

00:25:17.859 --> 00:25:21.119
sneaker. Look at that creep. Fucking creeps.

00:25:21.119 --> 00:25:24.019
They're such creeps. They've been around longer

00:25:24.019 --> 00:25:25.920
than dinosaurs, too. Oh, yeah. Or during the

00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:27.940
time of dinosaurs. They used to be so big, man.

00:25:28.019 --> 00:25:30.859
Oh, my God. They used to be so big. I like that

00:25:30.859 --> 00:25:32.640
noise. It's a pretty dope noise. It sounds like

00:25:32.640 --> 00:25:35.680
a fucking nasty growler. It literally sounds

00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:38.380
like it's being amplified by a porcelain bowl

00:25:38.380 --> 00:25:44.000
there. Long day. Long day eating fucking shrooms.

00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:45.680
That's exactly what it sounds like. Yeah, Sloppy

00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:49.680
Joe's and a couple of beers. Not the Sloppy Joe's.

00:25:49.700 --> 00:25:52.200
Sloppy Joe's will get you, son. They will get

00:25:52.200 --> 00:25:54.900
you. I mean, it's almost like they come pre -digested.

00:25:55.650 --> 00:25:58.670
Yeah, it's perfect. It's going to slip right

00:25:58.670 --> 00:26:01.130
through the whole system. There's zero resistance

00:26:01.130 --> 00:26:04.829
with a sloppy joe. It goes out the exact same

00:26:04.829 --> 00:26:08.589
way it came in. Just lubed up and ready to go.

00:26:08.690 --> 00:26:10.849
I'm never going to eat another one again. They're

00:26:10.849 --> 00:26:12.769
delicious. They are so good. They're delicious.

00:26:13.049 --> 00:26:16.230
At a fucking barbecue, a good solid sloppy joe.

00:26:16.849 --> 00:26:19.849
Damn. Well, there's nothing solid about it. Yeah,

00:26:19.869 --> 00:26:24.670
nothing solid. Yeah, a good one. You know? You've

00:26:24.670 --> 00:26:27.630
been eating Terry Black's? Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah,

00:26:27.670 --> 00:26:29.410
we get it delivered to the club a lot, too. They're

00:26:29.410 --> 00:26:32.690
amazing. It's just like, you can't have bad barbecue

00:26:32.690 --> 00:26:37.289
and survive out here. I'm interested about the

00:26:37.289 --> 00:26:40.869
move. Have you had, like, you found your, like,

00:26:40.890 --> 00:26:44.990
this place is amazing. Thank you. But the move

00:26:44.990 --> 00:26:47.089
here, because last time I was on, we were talking.

00:26:47.309 --> 00:26:49.710
It's been three years. And that was right before

00:26:49.710 --> 00:26:53.619
you moved, you said. Yeah. I don't know. I love...

00:26:53.619 --> 00:26:55.480
Whenever I moved here, it was amazing. Like,

00:26:55.480 --> 00:26:58.920
the food fucking just blew me away. The people

00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:01.400
are so cool. It's just great being out of L .A.

00:27:01.599 --> 00:27:03.460
L .A., look, there's a lot of cool people in

00:27:03.460 --> 00:27:05.660
L .A. I loved it. I lived there for a long time.

00:27:05.859 --> 00:27:09.539
But it's so tense. There's so many people. And

00:27:09.539 --> 00:27:10.819
I don't think people are supposed to live that

00:27:10.819 --> 00:27:12.819
jammed up like that. I just don't think it's

00:27:12.819 --> 00:27:15.420
good for you. I mean, maybe it's different for

00:27:15.420 --> 00:27:17.099
other people. Maybe they like that feeling. I

00:27:17.099 --> 00:27:18.980
have friends that live in New York City. They

00:27:18.980 --> 00:27:21.519
fucking love the beep, beep. Fuck you. They love

00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:23.940
it. They love it. They love that crime is up.

00:27:24.259 --> 00:27:26.359
These people are maniacs. They feel like they're

00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:28.599
real. They feel like it's dangerous. Sure. They're

00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:32.160
out there in the street. Sure. But me, I like

00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:35.720
to be, I like to relax. Me too. Yeah. I mean,

00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:38.859
that's like, being on tour too and being in the

00:27:38.859 --> 00:27:43.990
hotels and going to, because I lived in LA for

00:27:43.990 --> 00:27:46.950
like five years and but being in on tour and

00:27:46.950 --> 00:27:50.309
being in the hotels like and like New York and

00:27:50.309 --> 00:27:54.490
Boston and it is so noisy and then you go back

00:27:54.490 --> 00:27:57.589
to Utah and you're like oh my god it's crazy

00:27:57.589 --> 00:28:01.490
it's crazy yeah it's crazy it it's it's like

00:28:01.490 --> 00:28:04.329
it's night and day and you never really if you

00:28:04.329 --> 00:28:06.730
live in those like environments you never really

00:28:06.730 --> 00:28:10.170
notice it yeah you never really notice like a

00:28:10.170 --> 00:28:13.289
helicopter going by every 30 seconds or whatever.

00:28:13.450 --> 00:28:15.130
But then you're out in Utah and you're like,

00:28:15.190 --> 00:28:17.829
oh my God, this is so much quieter. I think there's

00:28:17.829 --> 00:28:22.470
just a, I think people give off something that

00:28:22.470 --> 00:28:25.309
probably we can't put on a scale. But there's

00:28:25.309 --> 00:28:27.069
like an energy that people give off. That's one

00:28:27.069 --> 00:28:28.930
of the reasons why people like crowds. I think

00:28:28.930 --> 00:28:30.650
people, when they're around a bunch of other

00:28:30.650 --> 00:28:34.269
people, they give off a kind of energy. And I

00:28:34.269 --> 00:28:36.250
think when there's too much of that, like a place

00:28:36.250 --> 00:28:38.650
like L .A. or New York in particular, because

00:28:38.650 --> 00:28:40.470
New York is just jammed. Everybody's stacked

00:28:40.470 --> 00:28:42.910
on top of each other. I think there's this buzz

00:28:42.910 --> 00:28:46.329
that's like always there that some people really

00:28:46.329 --> 00:28:49.829
enjoy. It scares me. It's an anxious feeling

00:28:49.829 --> 00:28:53.029
for me. Whenever I was out there, I had my baby

00:28:53.029 --> 00:28:55.390
and my doctor was out there. So whenever her

00:28:55.390 --> 00:29:00.119
mom was... you know, towards the end of her pregnancy.

00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:02.319
And we were like, okay, we're getting ready.

00:29:02.380 --> 00:29:05.740
We had the baby in L .A. And so, like, we were

00:29:05.740 --> 00:29:07.660
there so we could see the doctor and, you know,

00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:10.640
she can go into labor or whatever at any minute.

00:29:10.740 --> 00:29:14.000
So we were there for a couple months and stuff.

00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:17.519
And I would go outside at night and I'm like,

00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:21.170
oh, my God. Like, it felt like impending. doom

00:29:21.170 --> 00:29:23.730
for some reason helicopters fucking yeah and

00:29:23.730 --> 00:29:26.509
there's just noise noise noise and i'm like it

00:29:26.509 --> 00:29:28.829
was so thick yeah i was like where is it all

00:29:28.829 --> 00:29:32.009
coming from you know like i don't know it just

00:29:32.009 --> 00:29:34.630
gave it's such an anxious feeling for me to go

00:29:34.630 --> 00:29:36.950
outside and i'm like it's so like it sounded

00:29:36.950 --> 00:29:40.470
like i know it did didn't happen and i don't

00:29:40.470 --> 00:29:43.349
know what this sounds like but just like it felt

00:29:43.349 --> 00:29:46.839
like the aliens could invade at any time. You

00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:49.440
know? It was just like, I was like, oh, I know

00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:53.000
something's coming, man. It's scary. Yeah. Well,

00:29:53.099 --> 00:29:55.819
I think there's a thing that happens when there's

00:29:55.819 --> 00:29:58.180
too many people where people don't interact with

00:29:58.180 --> 00:30:01.099
each other too. Which feels weird because then

00:30:01.099 --> 00:30:02.779
you feel like all these people that you're running

00:30:02.779 --> 00:30:05.839
into, like their potential problems or their

00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:08.599
potential threats or their potential annoyances.

00:30:08.819 --> 00:30:10.819
Like, let me get away from these people. Sure.

00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:13.099
And it's just, that's not how it is when there's,

00:30:13.369 --> 00:30:15.470
Few people right when you walk down the street

00:30:15.470 --> 00:30:17.490
in a small town and you see something like what's

00:30:17.490 --> 00:30:23.509
up, dude It's just when it's thousands of them

00:30:23.509 --> 00:30:25.109
and they're all around you nobody talks to anybody

00:30:25.109 --> 00:30:27.670
Yeah, like you don't strike up a casual conversation

00:30:27.670 --> 00:30:30.869
when you're in a crowded line filled with people

00:30:30.869 --> 00:30:33.009
walking down the street, right? People don't

00:30:33.009 --> 00:30:35.430
talk everybody's got their own shit. Yeah, and

00:30:35.430 --> 00:30:37.990
and and it's so weird like you look at like even

00:30:37.990 --> 00:30:41.769
a hundred years ago Like people would sit down

00:30:41.769 --> 00:30:45.069
like on a bench and just be like what's up yeah

00:30:45.069 --> 00:30:47.789
how are you like have and have like conversations

00:30:47.789 --> 00:30:50.450
yeah and i was i don't remember exactly where

00:30:50.450 --> 00:30:53.829
i was but i think i was in new york doing something

00:30:53.829 --> 00:30:57.069
and there was a guy i was doing like a show and

00:30:57.069 --> 00:30:58.450
we were in this building and there was like a

00:30:58.450 --> 00:31:02.369
smoking area outside and there was this guy playing

00:31:02.369 --> 00:31:07.269
chess with himself and and my buddy goes up and

00:31:07.269 --> 00:31:10.059
he's like hey And I play chess with you. And

00:31:10.059 --> 00:31:11.799
it was like, yeah. And it's just like how shit

00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:14.200
would have gone like a hundred years ago. But

00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:16.359
now it's just like, I don't want to talk to anybody.

00:31:16.380 --> 00:31:19.200
Like, you know, it's so fucking weird, man. It's

00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:21.099
just like, we don't, we don't have like that

00:31:21.099 --> 00:31:24.579
interaction. Cause we got, we got so much shit

00:31:24.579 --> 00:31:26.940
to do. Everybody got kind of hoodwinked into

00:31:26.940 --> 00:31:30.619
this idea that the key to a successful life is

00:31:30.619 --> 00:31:34.200
working more than you should. Sure. And that

00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:35.740
that's the way. It is kind of the way to get

00:31:35.740 --> 00:31:37.980
ahead. I mean, it is a competition, and there

00:31:37.980 --> 00:31:39.200
are people out there that are going to hustle

00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:43.859
harder than you. But if you're not enjoying yourself,

00:31:44.079 --> 00:31:46.180
if you don't balance it out with enjoying yourself,

00:31:46.460 --> 00:31:48.599
you're going to have a shitty existence. And

00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:50.720
the whole point is to have a good existence,

00:31:50.940 --> 00:31:54.200
have a fun existence. Sure. It's not just about

00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:57.500
success, but everybody's so driven to just get

00:31:57.500 --> 00:32:00.460
ahead that it's hard for them to separate those

00:32:00.460 --> 00:32:03.119
two and realize there's a balance. Like you can't

00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:05.680
drink Coca -Cola all day. There's a balance.

00:32:05.700 --> 00:32:07.660
You drink it occasionally. And that balance,

00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:11.039
you can achieve it, but it's very hard to when

00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:13.779
you've got your eyes on the prize. Yeah, and

00:32:13.779 --> 00:32:23.289
finding that balance is the hardest part. By

00:32:23.289 --> 00:32:26.769
no means the most talented person or anything

00:32:26.769 --> 00:32:30.390
like that. But I did work really hard and autotune

00:32:30.390 --> 00:32:32.809
fucking saved my ass. Once again, shout out.

00:32:32.829 --> 00:32:35.670
But, I mean, work hard and get autotuned. But

00:32:35.670 --> 00:32:37.609
not too hard. But that's, I mean, that's it.

00:32:37.710 --> 00:32:41.930
You want to, like, taking the time and, like,

00:32:41.930 --> 00:32:45.190
having this baby was so cool, man. Like, it is

00:32:45.190 --> 00:32:48.319
so cool to be a dad. And you're like. It's wild,

00:32:48.339 --> 00:32:50.720
right? This is what I was missing out. This is

00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:55.119
a magical, magical thing. Yeah, there's a bunch

00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:57.819
of my friends who don't ever want kids. I'm like,

00:32:57.859 --> 00:33:01.940
dude, I get it, but you're missing something.

00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:05.940
You don't have to. You don't have to. And I do

00:33:05.940 --> 00:33:07.859
not like that pressure that people put on people,

00:33:07.859 --> 00:33:10.019
especially once they have kids. Well, it's mostly

00:33:10.019 --> 00:33:13.579
your grandma or something. It's like, when are

00:33:13.579 --> 00:33:15.740
you going to have a baby? But there's also a

00:33:15.740 --> 00:33:19.359
bunch of people that want you to stop being like

00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:22.619
Peter Pan. They want you to settle down. Never

00:33:22.619 --> 00:33:27.039
stop being like Peter Pan. Ever. I don't remember

00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:29.660
who I was talking to, but I was like, the goal

00:33:29.660 --> 00:33:33.140
of life is to be a kid forever. For sure. I mean,

00:33:33.140 --> 00:33:36.779
and now with like everything that we have in

00:33:36.779 --> 00:33:39.980
place right now, it's almost impossible. It's

00:33:39.980 --> 00:33:42.819
almost impossible, but that's the goal. The goal

00:33:42.819 --> 00:33:46.559
is to have as much money as you need to never

00:33:46.559 --> 00:33:50.200
have to worry about it. Yes. So you can actually

00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:55.210
go and live life. yes as a fucking kid and just

00:33:55.210 --> 00:33:58.309
eat fucking chicken nuggets and fucking go run

00:33:58.309 --> 00:34:01.170
around in the desert and go eat worms and shit

00:34:01.170 --> 00:34:03.910
well i don't do that but have fun exactly yeah

00:34:03.910 --> 00:34:06.869
have fun and people when they are serious about

00:34:06.869 --> 00:34:08.550
something especially like we're talking about

00:34:08.550 --> 00:34:10.809
people have their eyes on the prize they're trying

00:34:10.809 --> 00:34:13.809
to get ahead it's hard for them to disconnect

00:34:13.809 --> 00:34:16.300
and have fun my wife taught me how to do it I

00:34:16.300 --> 00:34:18.320
really used to have a hard time with it. I used

00:34:18.320 --> 00:34:19.719
to have a hard time with vacations because I

00:34:19.719 --> 00:34:21.599
always felt like I was missing work, like stuff

00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:24.280
I should be doing. But it's just a mindset that

00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:26.860
I learned how to slide into. And I learned how

00:34:26.860 --> 00:34:28.960
to chill at the end of the days too. I never

00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:30.880
used to know how to chill at the end of the day.

00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:33.699
I would just stay ramped up until I was tired,

00:34:33.860 --> 00:34:36.420
wake up, and go, let's fucking go. And it's just

00:34:36.420 --> 00:34:40.000
not sustainable. It is sustainable. I did it

00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:41.739
for a long time. But I don't think it's mentally

00:34:41.739 --> 00:34:44.380
sustainable. Right. I think the mind is the...

00:34:44.710 --> 00:34:48.510
Your mind, it's not a good headspace to be in

00:34:48.510 --> 00:34:50.989
all the time. You need to be enjoying this shit.

00:34:51.030 --> 00:34:57.349
You need to be able to just fucking, it's so.

00:34:57.980 --> 00:35:00.719
timeless but it's so true stop and fucking smell

00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:03.019
the fucking roses i mean they smell good man

00:35:03.019 --> 00:35:05.539
they certainly do they're so cute too my baby

00:35:05.539 --> 00:35:08.179
was like we had flowers delivered to the room

00:35:08.179 --> 00:35:10.539
and she would like hold it up to my nose and

00:35:10.539 --> 00:35:12.400
like you smell this shit because this shit is

00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:14.880
so cool and i'm like oh that's so cute a baby

00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:17.579
knows that you can smell it too she smells it

00:35:17.579 --> 00:35:19.420
and she wants you to smell it yeah pretty wild

00:35:19.420 --> 00:35:23.500
yep she got the double brain i got that Back

00:35:23.500 --> 00:35:25.599
to the vacation. Sorry, I wanted to say something

00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:28.840
about that too. Have you ever been, I don't know

00:35:28.840 --> 00:35:31.159
how your family is or how your buddies are, but

00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:37.139
have you ever been on a vacation and the people

00:35:37.139 --> 00:35:40.699
who plan the vacation are super militant about

00:35:40.699 --> 00:35:45.300
the itinerary and you can't even vacation? Do

00:35:45.300 --> 00:35:47.039
you know what I'm talking about? I do know what

00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:48.719
you're talking about, but fortunately I haven't

00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:51.400
experienced one of those. It is cursed. I've

00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:54.340
seen it. I've seen people go through it. You're

00:35:54.340 --> 00:35:58.059
in this beautiful place, and they're like, all

00:35:58.059 --> 00:36:01.699
right, guys, so 6 a .m. tomorrow morning. You

00:36:01.699 --> 00:36:04.739
guys are up. It's like 3 o 'clock, and you're

00:36:04.739 --> 00:36:06.679
all drunk, and everybody's like, all right, so

00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:08.679
you're going to get up at 6, right? You're going

00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:12.699
to be up at 6 to go fucking do something in the

00:36:12.699 --> 00:36:15.219
sun, and it's the hottest of all time after three

00:36:15.219 --> 00:36:17.760
hours of sleep. And I'm like, yep, I'll be there.

00:36:19.159 --> 00:36:21.989
You don't want to be mean and be like. I'm not

00:36:21.989 --> 00:36:24.309
going. And then you also, then you get FOMO.

00:36:24.369 --> 00:36:27.869
I don't think it's mean. I don't think it's mean.

00:36:27.969 --> 00:36:29.809
I think it's kind of mean to tell you what to

00:36:29.809 --> 00:36:32.670
do. Yeah. Especially if you're on vacation. Yeah,

00:36:32.690 --> 00:36:35.269
Greg. Yeah, Greg. No, I don't know Greg. Fuck

00:36:35.269 --> 00:36:39.170
Greg. But maybe it's some cool shit, like we're

00:36:39.170 --> 00:36:41.250
going to go marlin fishing. We've got to be up

00:36:41.250 --> 00:36:43.329
at 5 a .m. That sounds cool. We all agreed to

00:36:43.329 --> 00:36:44.969
it, and we chartered the boat, so we've got to

00:36:44.969 --> 00:36:47.730
get up. Okay, let's go. I caught a shark in the

00:36:47.730 --> 00:36:50.289
Maldives. Did you really? Yeah. Really? Yeah.

00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:54.500
It was super random. Yeah? We went to the Maldives,

00:36:54.500 --> 00:36:59.480
and we started throwing lines out on the boat,

00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:02.420
and we caught grouper and all that stuff, and

00:37:02.420 --> 00:37:08.079
we were using just little inch pieces of bait

00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:14.860
and regular line, and I cast my line out, and

00:37:14.860 --> 00:37:17.780
I started bringing it back, and I was like, oh,

00:37:17.820 --> 00:37:20.699
I'm on a rock. I'm on a rock. But then the rock

00:37:20.699 --> 00:37:24.900
was like, okay, maybe this isn't a rock. And

00:37:24.900 --> 00:37:27.900
so we sat and fought it for like 25 minutes,

00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:31.199
and it was a nine -foot nurse shark. Holy shit.

00:37:31.420 --> 00:37:33.980
Yeah, totally on accident. With this much bait

00:37:33.980 --> 00:37:37.780
and just a regular line. Yeah, nurse sharks are,

00:37:37.860 --> 00:37:41.099
that's sad because that's a sweet shark. Of course.

00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:44.280
Yeah, yeah, of course. But I was like. But she

00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:46.880
got a fucking hook in her face. Yeah, I know.

00:37:47.690 --> 00:37:51.110
It was so random. I was like, I thought I caught

00:37:51.110 --> 00:37:52.969
a rock because that's usually all I catch whenever

00:37:52.969 --> 00:37:54.929
I go fishing. You know what's fucking weird?

00:37:55.010 --> 00:37:56.889
What's really weird about fishing is catch and

00:37:56.889 --> 00:38:00.110
release. Catch and release fishing is fucking

00:38:00.110 --> 00:38:01.909
weird. For sharks? For any kind of fish. It's

00:38:01.909 --> 00:38:04.409
fucking, it's kind of weird. Why so? Because

00:38:04.409 --> 00:38:07.969
you're just doing it for fun. Right. Sure. Sure.

00:38:08.030 --> 00:38:10.769
You're not doing it for food. Sure. And you're

00:38:10.769 --> 00:38:13.489
essentially risking this animal's life. Sure.

00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:16.760
with a hook deep in its throat, and you're hoping

00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:18.380
it's going to survive. What if you gilled it?

00:38:18.460 --> 00:38:21.760
What if it got deep into the gills with a Rapala

00:38:21.760 --> 00:38:24.619
with the big old treble hooks, and it's bleeding

00:38:24.619 --> 00:38:28.019
internally? Fuck, don't make me feel bad, man.

00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:29.920
No, it's just a weird thing that people do. It

00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:32.139
was an accident. Not you, man. I'm not even talking

00:38:32.139 --> 00:38:34.380
about that. People specifically, I've done it.

00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:37.409
I'm a hypocrite. I've done it before. Well, you

00:38:37.409 --> 00:38:39.190
go catch and release fishing just because it's

00:38:39.190 --> 00:38:40.809
fun. And just toss them back. Yeah, like people

00:38:40.809 --> 00:38:42.710
do that with fly fishing. Yeah, or you catch

00:38:42.710 --> 00:38:45.150
something tiny and you throw it back. With fly

00:38:45.150 --> 00:38:46.869
fishing, there's actually an argument that it's

00:38:46.869 --> 00:38:48.429
not that big of a deal because fly fishermen,

00:38:48.550 --> 00:38:52.349
a lot of them use barbless hooks. So they can

00:38:52.349 --> 00:38:54.449
remove it very easily. Sure. And then maybe the

00:38:54.449 --> 00:38:57.719
fish can even... get it free if it jumps in the

00:38:57.719 --> 00:39:00.739
air. But when they catch them, a lot of fly fishermen

00:39:00.739 --> 00:39:02.960
are just catching releasing trout. I've never

00:39:02.960 --> 00:39:05.500
been fly fishing, but my brother's super into

00:39:05.500 --> 00:39:08.340
it, and he loves it. It's very relaxing. He loves

00:39:08.340 --> 00:39:11.659
it. You need a lot of concentration. It's kind

00:39:11.659 --> 00:39:13.539
of like archery in that respect. It requires

00:39:13.539 --> 00:39:16.179
all of your concentration as you're casting the

00:39:16.179 --> 00:39:18.179
line, and you've got to figure out how to get

00:39:18.179 --> 00:39:20.840
the perfect amount of whip so it rolls over and

00:39:20.840 --> 00:39:23.420
the fly presents itself right in front of the

00:39:23.420 --> 00:39:25.090
water hole, and you creep it with your... fingers

00:39:25.090 --> 00:39:26.570
you're doing everything with your hands you're

00:39:26.570 --> 00:39:29.010
not reeling in with a reel sure you know everything

00:39:29.010 --> 00:39:31.329
is done with your hands you kind of like even

00:39:31.329 --> 00:39:34.250
when you're like giving the the fish line like

00:39:34.250 --> 00:39:35.889
if it's really pulling and you already have a

00:39:35.889 --> 00:39:38.710
a tiny uh leader you got to give them a little

00:39:38.710 --> 00:39:40.530
line you're kind of doing it with touch and feel

00:39:40.530 --> 00:39:44.289
it's very like tactile it's a dance yeah it's

00:39:44.289 --> 00:39:47.150
very much a dance it's the what you know i love

00:39:47.150 --> 00:39:51.050
all kinds of fishing but If you go to a creek

00:39:51.050 --> 00:39:54.230
where people are fly fishing and you use a spinner

00:39:54.230 --> 00:40:00.409
on a regular rod, like a spinning rod, people

00:40:00.409 --> 00:40:02.610
will look at you like you're a fucking idiot.

00:40:02.750 --> 00:40:05.590
Like, what's wrong with you, you fucking barbarian?

00:40:05.769 --> 00:40:08.250
We're out here fly fishing. This is a dance.

00:40:08.429 --> 00:40:11.889
This is a gentleman's dance. With my parrying

00:40:11.889 --> 00:40:14.349
rod. These dudes are over there listening to

00:40:14.349 --> 00:40:22.889
fucking... AM Republican radio. One of the crank

00:40:22.889 --> 00:40:28.210
ones. Hold on. Wait, what'd he say? There's a

00:40:28.210 --> 00:40:29.829
lot of guys that still listen to those fucking

00:40:29.829 --> 00:40:32.769
political talk shows on AM talk radio. Man, I

00:40:32.769 --> 00:40:37.659
haven't even turned on, like... A radio. A radio

00:40:37.659 --> 00:40:39.980
in a long time. A long time. Yeah, it's been

00:40:39.980 --> 00:40:42.340
a long time. A long time. If I had to, if I had

00:40:42.340 --> 00:40:45.139
to use the crank radio, I'd hope there was something

00:40:45.139 --> 00:40:46.699
on there, but I don't know. Bro, when I was a

00:40:46.699 --> 00:40:48.860
kid, no one ever would have thought there would

00:40:48.860 --> 00:40:51.239
be a time where radio wasn't like a centerpiece

00:40:51.239 --> 00:40:53.440
in everyone's life. Because when I was a kid,

00:40:53.500 --> 00:40:55.619
like in high school, in the 80s, it was like,

00:40:55.659 --> 00:40:58.659
what station do you listen to? Right. I was a

00:40:58.659 --> 00:41:01.860
BCN guy. Sure. Rock of Boston. And you got beat

00:41:01.860 --> 00:41:06.579
up by the KTMTs guys. Well, there's the AAF guys

00:41:06.579 --> 00:41:08.500
that were a little more hardcore. Those guys

00:41:08.500 --> 00:41:10.280
are crazy. Yeah. I know those fuckers. They're

00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:13.119
crazy. And then there's the Kiss FM guys. I love

00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:15.039
Kiss FM. They were into like going out to clubs.

00:41:16.489 --> 00:41:19.250
When did Kiss FM start? Well, there's been a

00:41:19.250 --> 00:41:22.710
lot of Kiss FMs, right? Because I'm 106 .1 Kiss

00:41:22.710 --> 00:41:25.090
FM. Where's that one? Dallas, Fort Worth. Dallas,

00:41:25.090 --> 00:41:27.309
yeah. I think there's a Kiss FM all over the

00:41:27.309 --> 00:41:29.500
country. I don't know if they're a Philly. I

00:41:29.500 --> 00:41:31.400
don't know what that is. Is that like a fucking

00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:35.099
chain? I don't know. Is it franchised? That's

00:41:35.099 --> 00:41:36.239
a good question. How do they get a franchise

00:41:36.239 --> 00:41:37.599
into it? Because there's a whole lot of Kiss

00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:40.199
FM's. Yeah. Why does that sound so good? It does

00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:42.880
sound good. It sounds so good. Kiss FM sounds

00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:44.840
badass. But they had the jingle. Like the jingle,

00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:48.010
I remember because I used to... fall asleep to

00:41:48.010 --> 00:41:50.809
the radio and then wake up to Kid Craddock rest

00:41:50.809 --> 00:41:53.530
in peace Kid Craddock like such a legend and

00:41:53.530 --> 00:41:56.369
like he got me through school he was just funny

00:41:56.369 --> 00:42:02.869
and amazing and like I don't know it's just I

00:42:02.869 --> 00:42:04.889
don't know there's something magical about that

00:42:04.889 --> 00:42:10.269
but we lost that and even watching like Succession

00:42:11.340 --> 00:42:12.980
because I just got into it. Have you seen it?

00:42:13.099 --> 00:42:15.179
Good show. It's so good. It's a good show. Those

00:42:15.179 --> 00:42:18.420
actors are insane. Insane. They like become those

00:42:18.420 --> 00:42:20.860
fucked up people. Insane. Well, you're buying

00:42:20.860 --> 00:42:24.159
it hook, line, and sinker. The whole cast is

00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:27.300
insanely good. It's a dance much like fly fishing.

00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:30.980
Yes. But I mean, talking about legacy media and

00:42:30.980 --> 00:42:35.019
stuff like that and just how like Logan, Joe

00:42:35.019 --> 00:42:40.510
Logan, that's a meme. wants to buy all these,

00:42:40.550 --> 00:42:42.929
like, legacy media companies, but the kids are

00:42:42.929 --> 00:42:45.869
like, no, no, no, no, Dad, you're so old. Like,

00:42:45.869 --> 00:42:51.389
this is not, like, what's hot. Yeah. But he's

00:42:51.389 --> 00:42:53.150
still trying to hang on to it, and that's such

00:42:53.150 --> 00:42:55.170
an interesting thing with, like, streaming and,

00:42:55.190 --> 00:42:58.449
like, Spotify and Apple Music and stuff. It's

00:42:58.449 --> 00:43:00.989
just, like, the radio, unless you really love

00:43:00.989 --> 00:43:05.530
the DJ, like, I haven't turned on a radio. Yeah.

00:43:05.650 --> 00:43:09.030
I don't turn on radios. I don't even know how

00:43:09.030 --> 00:43:12.309
to work it in any of my cars. Fuck, they're so

00:43:12.309 --> 00:43:15.329
confusing now. One of my old muscle cars has

00:43:15.329 --> 00:43:17.969
an actual radio. Does it have a CD player? No,

00:43:18.349 --> 00:43:20.730
it doesn't. I do have one car that has a CD player,

00:43:20.829 --> 00:43:23.909
though. I have a BMW that has a CD player. Or

00:43:23.909 --> 00:43:25.309
it doesn't have a compact disc player. It might

00:43:25.309 --> 00:43:29.119
have a compact disc player. That's a 2005. Was

00:43:29.119 --> 00:43:31.679
it? CD player and a compact disc? Oh, I meant

00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:33.920
cassette. I meant cassette. I was thinking cassette.

00:43:34.039 --> 00:43:36.079
Yeah, it's got a CD player. Yeah, it doesn't

00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:37.239
have a... Does it have a combo? But I had a car

00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:38.980
that had a cassette player for a while. Does

00:43:38.980 --> 00:43:41.199
it have the combo? You remember that transition?

00:43:41.500 --> 00:43:44.320
So they had to put both in? Yeah. So you get

00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:46.519
the CDs and the cassettes? You remember when

00:43:46.519 --> 00:43:47.820
they used to have a little handle and you could

00:43:47.820 --> 00:43:49.739
pull them out because people were stealing radios?

00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:52.239
Blaupunks? No! They used to have... Literally,

00:43:52.340 --> 00:43:54.539
there was a handle. So you'd go to the restaurant,

00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:58.000
hold it onto your stereo. Yeah. They would slide

00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:00.440
out. That's amazing. Because, bro, everybody

00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:03.400
stole radios. They stole so many radios. It's

00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:05.320
the Alpine. You want the Alpine. And people were

00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:08.340
always selling them, too. Like, in a box at the

00:44:08.340 --> 00:44:10.539
fucking supermarket. Like, hey, bro, you want

00:44:10.539 --> 00:44:12.079
some stereos? Well, they'd sell them at the restaurant.

00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:15.980
Hey, man, go flip my radio real quick. Or if

00:44:15.980 --> 00:44:18.739
you can't, instead of doing dishes, if you can't

00:44:18.739 --> 00:44:21.139
pay, you're just like, here, hold on to the radio

00:44:21.139 --> 00:44:24.780
for a little bit. Weird how... Quick, that went

00:44:24.780 --> 00:44:29.239
away. And what happened to, how come no one uses

00:44:29.239 --> 00:44:33.179
those steering wheel locks? They don't really

00:44:33.179 --> 00:44:35.559
work. They don't? I mean, maybe some of them

00:44:35.559 --> 00:44:37.719
do. I've seen people break them, though. Well,

00:44:37.780 --> 00:44:39.599
you could break, you ever watch a lock pick lawyer

00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:44.960
on YouTube? No. I don't know anything about lock

00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:47.599
picking. I want to learn. It seems like just

00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:50.300
a cool thing to learn. playing video games and

00:44:50.300 --> 00:44:51.739
stuff, and I'm like, I want to lockpick shit.

00:44:51.900 --> 00:44:53.860
That sounds sick. Very James Bond. It's badass.

00:44:55.860 --> 00:44:58.079
Splinter Cell. Yeah, it's cool. If you have a

00:44:58.079 --> 00:45:01.880
little lockpick tool in your box. That's badass.

00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:05.360
But to be able to pull that out is pretty cool.

00:45:05.500 --> 00:45:08.599
But the lockpick lawyer, he can get into anything.

00:45:09.039 --> 00:45:14.860
Yeah, dude, it's so cool, man. This is the Lexus

00:45:14.860 --> 00:45:20.460
RX300. I love this lock. You know locks? No,

00:45:20.460 --> 00:45:27.099
sir. But as you see here with this Toy 48, man,

00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:30.239
he'll get in here so quick. Oh, my God. You can

00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:31.559
get in anywhere with this thing. And that's my

00:45:31.559 --> 00:45:34.639
favorite lock. This is crazy. Look how he's doing

00:45:34.639 --> 00:45:37.630
this. That's your favorite law. Look how he's

00:45:37.630 --> 00:45:40.389
doing this. This is nuts. So they'll make, they'll

00:45:40.389 --> 00:45:44.289
do like challenges for him and he'll just get

00:45:44.289 --> 00:45:47.630
in there. No problem. It is so, and I never was

00:45:47.630 --> 00:45:50.409
interested, but this shit is like, it's like

00:45:50.409 --> 00:45:53.389
ASMR. It is so fun to watch. And I'll just watch

00:45:53.389 --> 00:45:57.010
this all night. This is wild how he's doing this,

00:45:57.070 --> 00:45:59.250
where he's literally figuring out where the key

00:45:59.250 --> 00:46:01.570
slots are and pushing it into place. So these

00:46:01.570 --> 00:46:04.750
cards are pretty cool. So they make them for

00:46:04.750 --> 00:46:09.170
specific locks, and you can just get in there

00:46:09.170 --> 00:46:14.050
and find all the grid and all the indicators

00:46:14.050 --> 00:46:15.929
and shit like that. I don't know exactly how

00:46:15.929 --> 00:46:18.730
it works, but listen to me about it. And so is

00:46:18.730 --> 00:46:20.849
that a complicated? Oh, so that's how it works.

00:46:21.670 --> 00:46:25.260
Oh. So I'm explaining a bump lock using the same

00:46:25.260 --> 00:46:27.360
kind of thing. You can get in anything with the

00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:30.300
right key. Just bumping it hard enough. Wow.

00:46:31.059 --> 00:46:34.380
And they explained how that works. Look at that.

00:46:34.380 --> 00:46:36.739
Look at that. Isn't that cool? That is fucking

00:46:36.739 --> 00:46:40.300
crazy. But you got to wonder, who invented the

00:46:40.300 --> 00:46:43.400
lock? John Locke? That's a good question. I believe

00:46:43.400 --> 00:46:49.260
his name was John Locke. Thusly named. Like,

00:46:49.260 --> 00:46:53.000
what was a lock before a lock? Right? So maybe

00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:56.579
it was his name. Trust. I don't know. What would

00:46:56.579 --> 00:46:59.000
you say? Would you lock something up? What would

00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:02.519
that even mean? Nothing. Before locks, people

00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:06.019
used to have to put boards inside their house

00:47:06.019 --> 00:47:07.820
to keep people from opening their doors. Or just

00:47:07.820 --> 00:47:13.460
like a nice ritualistic symbol on the front of

00:47:13.460 --> 00:47:15.420
their door. Like, don't come in here. Yeah, right.

00:47:15.539 --> 00:47:18.340
Well, like they would do with, like, what's his

00:47:18.340 --> 00:47:21.699
name? Krampus. Put this dead goat and, like,

00:47:21.699 --> 00:47:24.019
paint the blood on your front door. Like, don't

00:47:24.019 --> 00:47:26.320
come in here. That would work. I think that would

00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:29.639
work to this day. No, to this day. If someone

00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:31.619
comes up and tries to get into your house and

00:47:31.619 --> 00:47:34.179
you have, like, painted in blood, like, this

00:47:34.179 --> 00:47:37.900
crazy. Like, Rune, I don't think they're coming

00:47:37.900 --> 00:47:40.400
in. Unless that's what you're into. Maybe so.

00:47:40.500 --> 00:47:41.699
You'd be like, bro, that's my Rune. Maybe you

00:47:41.699 --> 00:47:44.139
just get the craziest robbers of all time, and

00:47:44.139 --> 00:47:45.820
they're like, well, he's got some cool shit in

00:47:45.820 --> 00:47:50.239
there. Yeah, I like how you live. He doesn't

00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:51.579
even want to hurt you. He just wants to hang

00:47:51.579 --> 00:47:54.619
out. He's like, hey, man. Can you introduce me

00:47:54.619 --> 00:47:57.699
to Satan? Yeah, exactly. He's in the basement

00:47:57.699 --> 00:48:04.000
right now. Introduce you to Satan, bro. It's

00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:05.860
no problem. Yeah, come on in, man. He's fine.

00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:08.780
It's tea time. The kettle's on, sir. We're going

00:48:08.780 --> 00:48:11.840
to call him. Never call Satan after 3 a .m. It's

00:48:11.840 --> 00:48:14.420
bad. That's when he gets evil. Never call the

00:48:14.420 --> 00:48:17.599
imposter from Among Us after 3 a .m. The imposter

00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:20.880
from Among Us? What is that? You know the imposter

00:48:20.880 --> 00:48:22.960
from Among Us. No, I don't. You never played

00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:26.460
Among Us? No. No. What is it? It's like a game.

00:48:26.519 --> 00:48:28.869
I don't know. It's a game people used to play,

00:48:28.929 --> 00:48:30.230
yeah. Oh, I never played it. It's like a meme.

00:48:30.309 --> 00:48:32.889
You know this guy. You know this guy. I don't.

00:48:33.150 --> 00:48:35.429
Don't trust him. I don't. I never played that

00:48:35.429 --> 00:48:36.610
game. Don't trust him. The guy with the leaves

00:48:36.610 --> 00:48:39.010
on his head? Any of them. Any of them. You can't

00:48:39.010 --> 00:48:42.989
trust. So it's like, you got to guess who the

00:48:42.989 --> 00:48:46.090
killer is out of all of them. I can't believe

00:48:46.090 --> 00:48:48.070
I'm talking about Among Us on Joe Rogan. This

00:48:48.070 --> 00:48:50.190
is amazing. I don't know. You know what it is,

00:48:50.250 --> 00:48:52.820
Jamie? You do? I don't know what it is. It got

00:48:52.820 --> 00:48:55.079
big over the pandemic. Oh, it did? Oh, so it's

00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:56.760
recent? It was a game that you play with your

00:48:56.760 --> 00:48:59.360
friends. Oh, interesting. Some would debate it's

00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:02.659
for babies, but it's pretty fun. I don't play

00:49:02.659 --> 00:49:04.519
it. Why would they say it's for babies? I don't

00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:07.280
know. Just because babies play it sometimes.

00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:10.900
Much like Fortnite. Sorry, Fortnite. Babies play

00:49:10.900 --> 00:49:12.739
a lot of things. That's true. They play cool

00:49:12.739 --> 00:49:15.920
shit, too. That's true. They do rose smelling.

00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:20.559
But it kind of got memed a little bit, the Among

00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:23.920
Us thing. Interesting. Yeah. It's weird that

00:49:23.920 --> 00:49:26.900
some people like things until they find out the

00:49:26.900 --> 00:49:29.219
type of other people that like it. Sure. And

00:49:29.219 --> 00:49:30.380
they're like, I don't like this thing anymore.

00:49:30.619 --> 00:49:37.760
Well, dude, you remember how big, how big, what

00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:41.880
is it? The Facebook, well, meta, the metaverse

00:49:41.880 --> 00:49:44.659
or whatever. How big that was supposed to be.

00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:47.599
The VR thing. Yeah. Right? And so I just watched

00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:52.860
a thing by a guy named Jarvis Johnson. And he

00:49:52.860 --> 00:49:58.099
went in and spent like a week playing like 14

00:49:58.099 --> 00:50:02.880
hours a day in the metaverse. And it's all just

00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:07.199
kids. So they said it was going to be huge, huge,

00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:11.199
huge. And there's 900 people on it. And they're

00:50:11.199 --> 00:50:13.989
all kids. and he would go everywhere everywhere

00:50:13.989 --> 00:50:16.789
everywhere everywhere and it's all kids to the

00:50:16.789 --> 00:50:19.829
point where there was an 18 and up like bar and

00:50:19.829 --> 00:50:22.510
you would have to hold your arms out and they

00:50:22.510 --> 00:50:24.829
would measure your arm length to make sure that

00:50:24.829 --> 00:50:29.030
you weren't a kid isn't that crazy that's i don't

00:50:29.030 --> 00:50:33.409
know man it's just like that's bizarre it's crazy

00:50:33.409 --> 00:50:39.239
but it's just like Well, that's weird. If someone's,

00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:46.119
oh, wow, age verification. What if someone's

00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:49.360
really tiny? Right? Like, what happens to little

00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:49.900
people? Right, that's what I'm saying. Yeah,

00:50:49.980 --> 00:50:54.059
what if it's, like, just a guy with a short wingspan?

00:50:54.059 --> 00:50:57.250
Yeah. Yeah, you're fucked. You can't get into

00:50:57.250 --> 00:50:58.909
the bar. But that's all right because there was

00:50:58.909 --> 00:51:02.190
two people in there. The whole thing is you're

00:51:02.190 --> 00:51:04.550
hanging out with kids? That's bizarre. It's weird,

00:51:04.630 --> 00:51:07.570
man. That's a different thing. That's like an

00:51:07.570 --> 00:51:10.250
interactive thing. Right. Not like if you're

00:51:10.250 --> 00:51:12.090
playing a video game and it's just you versus

00:51:12.090 --> 00:51:16.469
the computer. fucking kids at these multiplayer

00:51:16.469 --> 00:51:19.190
games are so good yeah they're they have no life

00:51:19.190 --> 00:51:22.590
it's crazy no mortgage no family i miss those

00:51:22.590 --> 00:51:25.230
no aspirations they know when food is coming

00:51:25.230 --> 00:51:27.489
that's what i meant by whenever i said the goal

00:51:27.489 --> 00:51:29.489
of life is to be a kid i meant like don't pay

00:51:29.489 --> 00:51:32.650
taxes so i haven't paid mine just joking that's

00:51:32.650 --> 00:51:36.110
a joke too yeah go to puerto rico You don't have

00:51:36.110 --> 00:51:37.949
to pay taxes? Well, there's a weird thing. If

00:51:37.949 --> 00:51:40.130
you live in Puerto Rico, it's like 51 % of the

00:51:40.130 --> 00:51:41.829
time or something like that. I forget what the

00:51:41.829 --> 00:51:43.409
percentage is. But you just roll the dice? You

00:51:43.409 --> 00:51:45.929
don't pay federal taxes. How do you do that?

00:51:46.269 --> 00:51:48.849
Because if you claim Puerto Rico as your residence,

00:51:49.170 --> 00:51:51.730
I'm going to fuck this up, but Peter Schiff explained

00:51:51.730 --> 00:51:54.489
it to me. But that's why Jake and Logan Paul,

00:51:54.630 --> 00:51:57.090
they live in Puerto Rico. You don't have to pay

00:51:57.090 --> 00:51:59.670
taxes. Do you watch the fight? I did. What do

00:51:59.670 --> 00:52:02.030
you think? It's a good fight. Jake did a great

00:52:02.030 --> 00:52:05.510
job. He's very talented. He's big. Yeah, he's

00:52:05.510 --> 00:52:09.030
a big fella. He's a big fella, and Nate is definitely

00:52:09.030 --> 00:52:10.769
smaller than him, definitely doesn't hit as hard

00:52:10.769 --> 00:52:13.989
as him. And Jake has a lot more experience in

00:52:13.989 --> 00:52:16.409
professional boxing now, for sure. But he's legit.

00:52:17.449 --> 00:52:21.090
Legit fighter. I mean, yeah, he looks good. I

00:52:21.090 --> 00:52:23.849
mean, I just love watching Nate fight. He's an

00:52:23.849 --> 00:52:27.360
animal. He is amazing. He is like... One of my

00:52:27.360 --> 00:52:29.960
favorites to watch, and I was super pumped. It

00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:32.059
came on after the show in Dallas the first night,

00:52:32.079 --> 00:52:33.840
like two nights ago. They're talking about having

00:52:33.840 --> 00:52:35.719
an MMA fight, which would be a way different

00:52:35.719 --> 00:52:37.940
fight. I want that fight. Yeah, that's a way

00:52:37.940 --> 00:52:39.440
different fight. I want that fight. That's a

00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:41.360
way different fight. I feel like, and I've never

00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:48.119
been in a combat sport before, but it changes

00:52:48.119 --> 00:52:50.860
everything. It changes everything. You see Nate

00:52:50.860 --> 00:52:54.539
kind of getting up against the rope because he

00:52:54.539 --> 00:52:58.889
wants the... chain there you know right like

00:52:58.889 --> 00:53:00.849
because i he's getting up against the rope and

00:53:00.849 --> 00:53:03.949
i'm like oh and mma or ufc or whatever you can

00:53:03.949 --> 00:53:07.869
get up against you tie him up right but i don't

00:53:07.869 --> 00:53:09.989
know it's totally different it's totally different

00:53:09.989 --> 00:53:14.030
but jake is a very good wrestler he he's he's

00:53:14.030 --> 00:53:17.030
a great athlete very good fighter and i know

00:53:17.030 --> 00:53:20.369
he's never done an mma fight before but if he

00:53:20.369 --> 00:53:22.510
had one i think he'd be good at it i think he'd

00:53:22.510 --> 00:53:24.170
be good at it just like he's good at boxing he'd

00:53:24.170 --> 00:53:28.880
figure it out He's built crazy. Yeah. Like looking

00:53:28.880 --> 00:53:31.639
at him since his first fight. He fucking trains

00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:35.059
hard. He's big. To go 10 rounds like that with

00:53:35.059 --> 00:53:37.019
Nate constantly coming forward, you got to be

00:53:37.019 --> 00:53:39.739
in some serious shape. Serious shape. That's

00:53:39.739 --> 00:53:42.460
also a lot of experience too because you got

00:53:42.460 --> 00:53:44.119
to know when to hit the gas and when to back

00:53:44.119 --> 00:53:47.780
off. You can't just fight full blast for 10 rounds.

00:53:47.900 --> 00:53:51.500
It's not possible. I had to do, I was just doing,

00:53:51.639 --> 00:53:55.460
so we filmed a movie. a scene in a movie, and

00:53:55.460 --> 00:53:58.400
I had to go in and do voiceover for the movie

00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:01.320
for dubs, and they were telling me to throw fake

00:54:01.320 --> 00:54:05.519
punches. And I did it for like 10, not even full

00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:10.190
on for 10 minutes. And I was like, oh my... god

00:54:10.190 --> 00:54:13.630
i was so fucking sore and i was sore for the

00:54:13.630 --> 00:54:16.829
next week i was like yo and then you look at

00:54:16.829 --> 00:54:20.269
like 20 minutes or how how long was how how long

00:54:20.269 --> 00:54:22.710
are the rounds well it's 10 three minute rounds

00:54:22.710 --> 00:54:25.309
10 three minute rounds 30 minutes of boxing that's

00:54:25.309 --> 00:54:28.809
insane it's insane That's hard. That's hard to

00:54:28.809 --> 00:54:31.869
do. You know what's a great workout? The VR boxing

00:54:31.869 --> 00:54:33.710
games. Have you ever fucked with any of those?

00:54:33.849 --> 00:54:35.690
No, sir. They're great. I'm in the metaverse,

00:54:35.789 --> 00:54:39.309
man. I'm playing Among Us in VR. They're great

00:54:39.309 --> 00:54:42.449
workouts that are in a game because you actually

00:54:42.449 --> 00:54:45.550
are boxing the guy. You have these handsets on.

00:54:45.650 --> 00:54:47.849
The handsets are your gloves, so you actually

00:54:47.849 --> 00:54:49.929
throw punches, and you move away from their punches,

00:54:49.969 --> 00:54:52.289
and it shows you when you hit them. And it measures

00:54:52.289 --> 00:54:54.570
your goggles, too, so it knows where your goggles

00:54:54.570 --> 00:54:55.389
are. Yeah, it knows exactly where you're at.

00:54:55.389 --> 00:54:57.599
That's cool. As your head moves, the punches

00:54:57.599 --> 00:55:00.159
slip by. You can duck under them and hit them

00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:02.500
with uppercuts. So we already, is it like multiplayer?

00:55:02.800 --> 00:55:04.860
No, it's single player. Oh, I didn't know if

00:55:04.860 --> 00:55:06.820
you were fighting like real people. Because I

00:55:06.820 --> 00:55:09.300
was like, imagine like, oh, fuck. I'm a 12 -year

00:55:09.300 --> 00:55:11.539
-old at my house and I got to box Joe Rogan.

00:55:12.099 --> 00:55:14.920
You can do that in fencing. I know in fencing

00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:17.000
you can have a fence off with each other. I bet

00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:18.840
they have a thing for boxing where you could

00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:21.139
do it against someone. Or you're both on opposite

00:55:21.139 --> 00:55:22.760
sides of the room and you're boxing each other.

00:55:22.980 --> 00:55:25.960
Well, I'm, what's your, if you. Send me your

00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:27.840
gamer tag so if I ever go up against you. I don't

00:55:27.840 --> 00:55:31.460
have a gamer tag. A gamer tag is also quite old,

00:55:31.500 --> 00:55:35.099
I think. I don't know. I used to be an Xbox guy.

00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:39.260
Now I'm just a PC nerd. Yeah, just PC? Yeah.

00:55:39.340 --> 00:55:42.860
What do you play? I'm playing Diablo right now.

00:55:42.940 --> 00:55:45.420
Oh, Diablo. Oh, my God. That steals your life.

00:55:45.539 --> 00:55:48.239
It steals my entire life. On my day off, on my

00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:50.840
days off, I go and I play. And I'm like, oh,

00:55:50.900 --> 00:55:52.880
I'm good, man. I only played for like 14 hours

00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:57.639
today. You play? No, I do not. My friend Duncan

00:55:57.639 --> 00:55:59.920
is a full -on junkie. So is my friend Brian.

00:56:00.059 --> 00:56:03.440
And we were both watching video clips. I see

00:56:03.440 --> 00:56:05.860
it. I get it. I get how it roped you in. It's

00:56:05.860 --> 00:56:08.179
that dopamine of seeing all the numbers pop up.

00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:10.360
You're like, oh, I did 9 million damage to a

00:56:10.360 --> 00:56:12.400
fucking demon. Yeah, there's all the numbers

00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:14.579
and the graphics and the craziness. And you see

00:56:14.579 --> 00:56:16.440
them coming towards you. There's a lot of anticipation.

00:56:17.239 --> 00:56:19.179
Yikes. Yeah, it's good. It's good. It looks like

00:56:19.179 --> 00:56:22.030
fun. Do you play anything? Not anymore. No? No,

00:56:22.070 --> 00:56:24.489
I used to be a hardcore first -person shooter

00:56:24.489 --> 00:56:26.090
junkie. I used to play a lot of Quake. Modern

00:56:26.090 --> 00:56:29.070
Warfare 2? No, Quake. See, you're harder. You're

00:56:29.070 --> 00:56:31.070
harder. I used to play Quake online. I had a

00:56:31.070 --> 00:56:33.710
buddy that used to play Quake, and the competitive

00:56:33.710 --> 00:56:36.570
scene for that in the early 2000s was crazy.

00:56:36.570 --> 00:56:39.989
Yeah, insane. Insane. You have to know all the

00:56:39.989 --> 00:56:42.570
map, and you know where they're going, so it's

00:56:42.570 --> 00:56:47.250
like FPS chess. It's pretty cool to watch. It

00:56:47.250 --> 00:56:50.280
really is, because you have to know. when certain

00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:53.239
items are spawning. Yes, sir. Like a mega health,

00:56:53.320 --> 00:56:55.280
a rocket launcher. You got to get to it before

00:56:55.280 --> 00:56:59.019
your opponent does. Nerd. Yeah. That's so cool.

00:56:59.340 --> 00:57:01.440
Were you any good? Oh, I was pretty good, yeah.

00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:03.980
That's amazing. That's so cool, dude. Yeah, we

00:57:03.980 --> 00:57:08.079
used to have a Quake LAN party set up here. This

00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:12.079
is crazy, dude. Quake 3. That's Quake 3 Arena,

00:57:12.219 --> 00:57:14.599
right? Quake Champions, Quake Champions. That's

00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:22.579
the only one. What was like... Unreal? No, it's

00:57:22.579 --> 00:57:27.960
a Quake game. Look at this. Boom. Look at that.

00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:29.780
This game is so fun. I didn't even react that

00:57:29.780 --> 00:57:31.800
fast. How do you hit that guy? Well, you're moving

00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:35.059
so fast in this game. It's just constant juice

00:57:35.059 --> 00:57:37.539
for your brain. Your brain is just constantly

00:57:37.539 --> 00:57:41.900
getting stimulus. It's so fun. Wow. Yeah, this

00:57:41.900 --> 00:57:43.940
guy's good. Whoever's playing this, this guy's

00:57:43.940 --> 00:57:47.139
good. But look how tuned in he is. He's just...

00:57:48.179 --> 00:57:50.940
In a trance. He knows where he's coming from.

00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:53.579
He knows exactly. You've got to memorize these

00:57:53.579 --> 00:57:57.800
maps, dude. Wow! That's insane. Did he get him

00:57:57.800 --> 00:58:00.079
through the grate? He got him as he was going

00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:03.239
down. That was great. Look at that. This guy's

00:58:03.239 --> 00:58:06.699
insane. This guy's so good, man. So he's running

00:58:06.699 --> 00:58:08.159
around getting all the health and getting all

00:58:08.159 --> 00:58:11.099
the armor and shit. See, he pre -shoots that

00:58:11.099 --> 00:58:14.659
in case he's coming down there. Wow, he is rocking

00:58:14.659 --> 00:58:16.800
this guy. Yeah, this guy's a killer. Whoever

00:58:16.800 --> 00:58:19.579
the fuck this guy is, this guy has no life. Guarantee

00:58:19.579 --> 00:58:21.199
you, that motherfucker's playing that game all

00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:24.300
day. Man, I only played for 14 hours today. What

00:58:24.300 --> 00:58:26.420
do you mean? The thing is, you can be, like,

00:58:26.420 --> 00:58:28.659
real successful in that game. You get the same

00:58:28.659 --> 00:58:30.880
rush out of being successful in the real world.

00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:34.380
It's true. Yeah, more of a rush, really. I don't,

00:58:34.380 --> 00:58:39.719
dude, it's so, so gaming for me. Like I mentioned

00:58:39.719 --> 00:58:42.119
before, I don't leave the house very much. Gaming

00:58:42.119 --> 00:58:48.199
for me is me time. Everybody likes the multiplayer

00:58:48.199 --> 00:58:51.480
games and stuff, but I'm a single -player guy

00:58:51.480 --> 00:58:56.019
because whenever I get to actually sit down by

00:58:56.019 --> 00:59:00.039
myself, not on tour, and then the baby goes to

00:59:00.039 --> 00:59:02.539
bed and mama goes to bed and I can just go and

00:59:02.539 --> 00:59:07.260
sit and have a nice drink and a smoke. game room

00:59:07.260 --> 00:59:10.539
yeah and just fucking like yeah just total get

00:59:10.539 --> 00:59:13.800
austie time yes you need austie time yes sir

00:59:13.800 --> 00:59:16.940
you do everybody does you really do it's good

00:59:16.940 --> 00:59:20.039
for your mind just for for me again like why

00:59:20.039 --> 00:59:21.900
are you doing this you're doing this to enjoy

00:59:21.900 --> 00:59:25.019
yourself all this life is supposed to be you're

00:59:25.019 --> 00:59:26.719
supposed to be enjoying yourself yes as much

00:59:26.719 --> 00:59:31.079
as you can i mean it's it's a lot it's a lot

00:59:31.079 --> 00:59:34.500
every everybody's got a lot um Everybody's got

00:59:34.500 --> 00:59:37.179
a lot. You take that second. Don't be fucking

00:59:37.179 --> 00:59:39.260
scared to take that second for yourself. You

00:59:39.260 --> 00:59:41.639
deserve that fucking second. But earn that second,

00:59:41.699 --> 00:59:44.260
too. Earn that second, but then you feel that

00:59:44.260 --> 00:59:47.059
second hit so much harder. So much harder. Whenever

00:59:47.059 --> 00:59:48.840
you're like, oh, man. So much harder. Fucking

00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:53.940
working my ass off. Abstinence makes the heart

00:59:53.940 --> 00:59:58.460
grow fond. Abstinence? Yeah, just. Yeah, I'm

00:59:58.460 --> 01:00:02.289
abstinent. Having, you know. Just a little break

01:00:02.289 --> 01:00:05.329
from things. Well, how do you find time, Joe?

01:00:05.570 --> 01:00:10.289
I make it. Force it. Just force it. Give me one

01:00:10.289 --> 01:00:12.530
of them Bud Lights. Fuck it. You got it. Let's

01:00:12.530 --> 01:00:14.570
go. They're cold, too. We've been drinking Bud

01:00:14.570 --> 01:00:17.050
Light consistently on this show. Yeah? I'm sure

01:00:17.050 --> 01:00:21.650
the comments are afire with those folks that

01:00:21.650 --> 01:00:23.429
like to get riled up about stupid shit. Well,

01:00:23.449 --> 01:00:27.150
that's what I said, you know. Before the show,

01:00:27.250 --> 01:00:30.159
I was like... Just back to the conversation we

01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:33.059
were just having. There's not a lot of comfort

01:00:33.059 --> 01:00:35.880
in the modern world, man. And I've been drinking

01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:40.780
this forever. Yeah. Gives you comfort. I'm drinking

01:00:40.780 --> 01:00:43.179
my fucking... God damn it, I'm going to drink

01:00:43.179 --> 01:00:45.559
a fucking beer, Joe Rogan. Yeah, a Bud Light,

01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:47.840
too. I'm going to drink a fucking Bud Light,

01:00:47.880 --> 01:00:49.579
and it's yummy. Forget about everybody's outrage.

01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:54.000
Settle down, everybody. Relax. They fucked up.

01:00:54.260 --> 01:00:56.920
Just let them off the hook. They fucked up this

01:00:56.920 --> 01:00:58.639
one thing. It's not even that big a deal, but

01:00:58.639 --> 01:01:01.039
when Kid Rock shoots your fucking beer, it's

01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:04.860
game over. It was a cool MP5, though. It was.

01:01:05.139 --> 01:01:07.900
It was a cool gun. When Kid Rock shoots your

01:01:07.900 --> 01:01:11.179
beer. First off, you got to buy the beer, and

01:01:11.179 --> 01:01:13.760
you know how much ammo is nowadays. It was an

01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:16.119
expensive publicity stunt, but I think it was

01:01:16.119 --> 01:01:19.119
well worth it. Well, if you look at the impact

01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:22.519
that it did, that's what's crazy. How many people

01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:24.320
are just looking for shit to get annoyed with

01:01:24.320 --> 01:01:30.619
lately? Yeah, I mean, I don't know. It's interesting.

01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:38.619
And I love watching the show because it's so...

01:01:38.619 --> 01:01:42.559
You just talk. Yeah. You just talk, and me and

01:01:42.559 --> 01:01:46.739
my friends, we say, you know, it's nice because

01:01:46.739 --> 01:01:50.639
you... don't have any judgment, and you listen

01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:54.360
to people talk, and you actually have a conversation,

01:01:54.579 --> 01:01:57.619
which is really nice. Well, in this age of short

01:01:57.619 --> 01:02:00.880
attention span, that shit doesn't appeal to everybody.

01:02:01.219 --> 01:02:02.739
There's a lot of people that aren't interested

01:02:02.739 --> 01:02:05.139
in that. Right. And they're interested in long

01:02:05.139 --> 01:02:07.219
-form conversations. They're interested in reading

01:02:07.219 --> 01:02:09.820
books. They're interested in just listening to

01:02:09.820 --> 01:02:11.900
music just for the sake of listening to music.

01:02:12.760 --> 01:02:14.199
You know, there's still people like that out

01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:16.260
there. This idea that everyone's just short attention

01:02:16.260 --> 01:02:19.420
span dummy. That's crazy. That's not true. There's

01:02:19.420 --> 01:02:21.300
always going to be people that are interested

01:02:21.300 --> 01:02:23.440
in things. Right. And want to be stimulated.

01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:29.039
Is that the popular? Well, I mean, for you, yes.

01:02:29.500 --> 01:02:32.639
You crush it. You crush it. Well, it works for

01:02:32.639 --> 01:02:34.699
me. Yes, sir. It works for me because that's

01:02:34.699 --> 01:02:39.219
actually what I like. Yes, sir. There's no bridge

01:02:39.219 --> 01:02:43.119
between what I'm interested in and what I'm talking

01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:45.920
about. Right. It's just right there. It's right

01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:47.739
there. You love what you do. Yeah, and there's

01:02:47.739 --> 01:02:50.780
no executive. There's no producer telling me

01:02:50.780 --> 01:02:53.260
what to do. There's no network. So it's just

01:02:53.260 --> 01:02:56.730
me and people, me and you. And that's missing

01:02:56.730 --> 01:02:59.809
in this world. We're getting too much of what

01:02:59.809 --> 01:03:03.309
we get is filtered down. Even if it's the news,

01:03:03.449 --> 01:03:06.030
it's going through filters. It's going through

01:03:06.030 --> 01:03:08.750
people. It's getting approved. What can you talk

01:03:08.750 --> 01:03:10.489
about? What can you not talk about? What do you

01:03:10.489 --> 01:03:12.929
highlight? What do you not highlight? What causes

01:03:12.929 --> 01:03:15.469
death that you pay attention to? And what causes

01:03:15.469 --> 01:03:19.030
death that you ignore? That's what the news is.

01:03:19.429 --> 01:03:21.829
So it's just, we get it from everything. And

01:03:21.829 --> 01:03:24.690
so we always have this uneasy feeling. Like,

01:03:24.690 --> 01:03:26.469
whoever that person is that's telling us the

01:03:26.469 --> 01:03:29.489
news, they're not being 100 % real with us. Because

01:03:29.489 --> 01:03:32.289
they're not even talking real. Today, at 5 p

01:03:32.289 --> 01:03:34.429
.m., we learned that there's a way they're talking

01:03:34.429 --> 01:03:36.929
where you know that that's not a fucking human.

01:03:37.210 --> 01:03:39.530
That's not a human. And when they're trying to

01:03:39.530 --> 01:03:42.739
be a human, it's even grosser. It's a show. Yeah,

01:03:42.760 --> 01:03:44.340
and when they're trying to be sincere, it's even

01:03:44.340 --> 01:03:46.599
grosser because it's like performative and you've

01:03:46.599 --> 01:03:49.159
always been you've been performing as this This

01:03:49.159 --> 01:03:51.199
news guy forever and now all of a sudden you're

01:03:51.199 --> 01:03:53.719
the real person right cut the shit man. What

01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:56.360
is that? Yeah, it makes us feel weird and that's

01:03:56.360 --> 01:04:00.780
might not even be As human as they're even being

01:04:00.780 --> 01:04:05.659
it It's not their fault, you know, cuz that's

01:04:05.659 --> 01:04:07.980
what that's their job. That's their job. You

01:04:07.980 --> 01:04:10.300
know, that's their job to go up there. So if

01:04:10.300 --> 01:04:12.500
you do show that human moment, it's like, and

01:04:12.500 --> 01:04:13.880
then you look at it and you're like, oh, is that

01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:16.760
actually real? Everyone thinks that's fake, you

01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:20.260
know, but maybe, you know, they do feel sad,

01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:23.460
genuinely. It's just so hard if you tell a sad

01:04:23.460 --> 01:04:26.619
story on the news and it's like you're reading

01:04:26.619 --> 01:04:29.500
off a teleprompter. Yeah. You know what I mean?

01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:33.260
It's interesting. It is. It's weird that we still

01:04:33.260 --> 01:04:36.000
need people to do it too. Like we want a Walter

01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:38.960
Cronkite type person or some respected journalist,

01:04:39.119 --> 01:04:42.480
some Mike Wallace, some Barbara Walters, someone

01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:44.139
who like when they're talking. There's one I

01:04:44.139 --> 01:04:46.159
know. I know Barbara Walters. Yeah. There's,

01:04:46.159 --> 01:04:48.639
well, you know, not when she's on The View, but

01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:52.519
the olden days. Sure. What she would do. Investigative

01:04:52.519 --> 01:04:58.019
journalist. What days? I'm 95. I'm 95. Bro, she's

01:04:58.019 --> 01:05:01.059
pre your time for sure. She's pre my time. She

01:05:01.059 --> 01:05:04.400
was, I think there's like some crazy thing where.

01:05:05.309 --> 01:05:08.110
Barbara Walters, Anne Frank, and Martin Luther

01:05:08.110 --> 01:05:10.230
King Jr. were born in the same year. Is that

01:05:10.230 --> 01:05:13.449
true? Did I just make that up? I think Anne Frank

01:05:13.449 --> 01:05:15.210
and Martin Luther King Jr. and then like one

01:05:15.210 --> 01:05:19.969
other. She was born in 1929. What? Son. She passed

01:05:19.969 --> 01:05:27.469
away last year. 1929. Yeah. Yeah. That lady's

01:05:27.469 --> 01:05:31.409
seen some shit. That's when people played chess

01:05:31.409 --> 01:05:33.329
with each other. And Frank was as well, right?

01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:38.360
1929. Yeah. That's crazy. Born the same year.

01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:40.900
See, you didn't make that up. No. Sometimes I'm

01:05:40.900 --> 01:05:43.059
wondering, though. No, me too. I fuck things

01:05:43.059 --> 01:05:45.000
up. I definitely fuck things up. The problem

01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:46.920
also, like, sometimes people tell me something,

01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:49.079
and then I don't look it up, and then I'll just

01:05:49.079 --> 01:05:51.679
repeat it. Yeah, that's a whole other thing.

01:05:51.860 --> 01:05:54.039
That's a whole other thing. Yeah, you got to,

01:05:54.039 --> 01:05:55.519
like, look things up. Dick Clark. Dick Clark.

01:05:55.539 --> 01:06:00.659
Audrey Hepburn. Arnold Palmer from 1929? Let's

01:06:00.659 --> 01:06:03.400
go. The golfer? Mm -hmm. Wow, he was born in

01:06:03.400 --> 01:06:07.699
1929? I thought he was the drink guy. He did.

01:06:08.619 --> 01:06:11.739
I prefer myself a John Daly. Which is the John

01:06:11.739 --> 01:06:17.260
Daly? That's vodka and Arnold Palmer. John Daly's

01:06:17.260 --> 01:06:21.119
a wild boy. Oh, man. That fella. What he can

01:06:21.119 --> 01:06:24.340
do is amazing. He's known for being a dude who

01:06:24.340 --> 01:06:27.389
parties. And he's one of the best golfers ever.

01:06:27.530 --> 01:06:29.869
Yeah, man. I don't know. That's why, like, look

01:06:29.869 --> 01:06:33.010
at him out there. Dude, that's such a wave right

01:06:33.010 --> 01:06:34.349
there. Smoking a cigarette. Smoking a stogie

01:06:34.349 --> 01:06:37.730
and just sucking. Big gut. Plays like a fucking

01:06:37.730 --> 01:06:40.389
wizard. He looks like a wizard. He does. He's

01:06:40.389 --> 01:06:43.610
giving me big wizard vibes on this one. I mean.

01:06:44.119 --> 01:06:46.539
The guy's been doing it a long fucking time.

01:06:46.599 --> 01:06:49.019
Many a man is in the ground that was thinking

01:06:49.019 --> 01:06:51.340
that John Daly was never going to make it. I'd

01:06:51.340 --> 01:06:53.800
be pissed. It's like, you ever play Mortal Kombat

01:06:53.800 --> 01:06:58.179
and Bo Rai Cho? Who's Bo Rai Cho? He's the guy

01:06:58.179 --> 01:07:00.420
that was always drunk and he would puke on you.

01:07:00.539 --> 01:07:03.059
And then he would always kick my ass in the game.

01:07:03.440 --> 01:07:07.440
So imagine, that's kind of like, not to compare

01:07:07.440 --> 01:07:10.579
John Daly to Bo Rai Cho from Mortal Kombat, but...

01:07:11.480 --> 01:07:13.820
just imagine you're out there and you go so hard

01:07:13.820 --> 01:07:16.199
and you go you're like doing all the best training

01:07:16.199 --> 01:07:18.420
and all this shit and this guy just comes out

01:07:18.420 --> 01:07:22.420
with a fat dude with a john daly and then just

01:07:22.420 --> 01:07:24.940
fucking hits the craziest shot i mean oh my god

01:07:24.940 --> 01:07:27.800
man there's some guys that don't look like they

01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:31.599
should be pro athletes and the or pro anything

01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:34.400
with your body yeah and yet they're as good as

01:07:34.400 --> 01:07:41.500
anybody alive yeah i mean like Big country? Oh,

01:07:41.519 --> 01:07:44.780
yeah. Roy Nelson? Roy Nelson put people in the

01:07:44.780 --> 01:07:47.920
neighboring dimensions. That dude hit so hard.

01:07:47.980 --> 01:07:50.340
And, by the way, he's like a legit Brazilian

01:07:50.340 --> 01:07:53.139
jiu -jitsu black belt. He was an elite grappler.

01:07:53.260 --> 01:07:56.159
I met him way back in the day, way before he

01:07:56.159 --> 01:07:58.820
had any MMA fights. And he was just a really

01:07:58.820 --> 01:08:01.380
elite grappler. But then he starts fighting in

01:08:01.380 --> 01:08:04.039
MMA and knocking people unconscious. And can

01:08:04.039 --> 01:08:06.500
take a shot as good as anybody that's ever lived.

01:08:06.539 --> 01:08:10.039
The beard is padding. Have you thought? They

01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:11.619
used to say that with boxers. They used to make

01:08:11.619 --> 01:08:14.139
them shave their beards. Shave them off. Yeah,

01:08:14.159 --> 01:08:15.679
you couldn't have a big, hairy beard because

01:08:15.679 --> 01:08:17.699
they really did think that it was padding. Well,

01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:19.520
yeah. Well, that's what I was talking to somebody,

01:08:19.579 --> 01:08:21.520
and they were like, hey, do you think it's, like,

01:08:21.539 --> 01:08:25.039
way, way, way, way, way far down the line to

01:08:25.039 --> 01:08:26.939
where, like, men grew beards because they were

01:08:26.939 --> 01:08:28.640
fighting each other? And they were like, okay,

01:08:28.720 --> 01:08:30.279
we'll get a little padding, and it just grew

01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:33.100
over time? No, I think they hadn't invented razors.

01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:36.819
That's true. No, but how evolutionary? How did

01:08:36.819 --> 01:08:38.880
it grow? How did it start growing? It went away.

01:08:39.340 --> 01:08:41.739
I think we had hair all the way up to the top

01:08:41.739 --> 01:08:44.560
of our face. But why would it stay there? Why

01:08:44.560 --> 01:08:46.899
do we have armpit hair? It's a good question.

01:08:47.020 --> 01:08:50.000
Why do we have ball hair? Yeah. What's up with

01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:51.140
asshole hair? So you can style it, of course.

01:08:51.319 --> 01:08:54.520
So you can braid it. Keep your asshole warm.

01:08:54.520 --> 01:08:57.300
No, the asshole hair is for catching dingleberries,

01:08:57.340 --> 01:08:59.500
and everyone knows that. It's for a little snack

01:08:59.500 --> 01:09:03.020
for later. Oh, God. I think what it is is we

01:09:03.020 --> 01:09:05.060
used to be covered in hair. It's pretty obvious.

01:09:05.720 --> 01:09:08.100
And then when the aliens came down and manipulated

01:09:08.100 --> 01:09:12.630
our DNA, they turned us into this. I wish they

01:09:12.630 --> 01:09:15.189
turned me into that. I wish they turned me into

01:09:15.189 --> 01:09:17.409
that. How did I get stuck with it? I always miss

01:09:17.409 --> 01:09:20.949
the fucking cool shit, man. Dude, I think if

01:09:20.949 --> 01:09:26.250
that is the case, if we were really truly created

01:09:26.250 --> 01:09:28.750
by aliens, that would be the most bizarre of

01:09:28.750 --> 01:09:30.930
all the possibilities. We're still the same thing.

01:09:31.109 --> 01:09:33.869
But if we knew that that's how we came about,

01:09:34.109 --> 01:09:36.470
that would be probably the most bizarre thing

01:09:36.470 --> 01:09:43.869
ever. Creation or like crossbreeding? Like crossbreeding.

01:09:43.989 --> 01:09:46.350
Yeah. Yeah, or like some genetic manipulation,

01:09:46.689 --> 01:09:54.270
you know? It's so weird. Who fucking knows? But

01:09:54.270 --> 01:10:03.210
thinking about why are the depictions of aliens

01:10:03.210 --> 01:10:09.510
since recorded history, why are they always bipedal?

01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:14.579
why do they always have the same face and eyes

01:10:14.579 --> 01:10:18.479
as us like yeah why why big giant eyes why is

01:10:18.479 --> 01:10:21.640
that why is that because i don't know and people

01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:26.079
are like oh you know people would be like well

01:10:26.079 --> 01:10:28.079
they're just like you know they made this up

01:10:28.079 --> 01:10:30.020
they look like humans but what if we look like

01:10:30.020 --> 01:10:33.460
them yeah or what if whatever we're being visited

01:10:33.460 --> 01:10:39.699
by now is just humans from the future or humans

01:10:40.300 --> 01:10:45.939
Or another offshoot of humans from another dimension.

01:10:46.300 --> 01:10:47.340
Yeah, a lot of people speculate on all those

01:10:47.340 --> 01:10:49.199
things. At the risk of sounding crazy. You know

01:10:49.199 --> 01:10:51.819
what's interesting about aliens, too? Aliens,

01:10:51.880 --> 01:10:55.979
they always have eyes facing forward. And in

01:10:55.979 --> 01:10:58.060
nature, things that have eyes facing forward

01:10:58.060 --> 01:11:00.640
are generally predators. Sure. Things that have

01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:03.939
eyes on the side, like a deer or a pronghorn,

01:11:04.079 --> 01:11:06.800
they're looking for shit coming at them. So they're

01:11:06.800 --> 01:11:10.109
looking left and right. But when something has

01:11:10.109 --> 01:11:13.229
eyes going forward, it's looking to attack, generally.

01:11:13.550 --> 01:11:17.430
Like cats and wolves, they have eyes facing forward.

01:11:18.430 --> 01:11:20.810
And aliens have eyes facing forward, which is

01:11:20.810 --> 01:11:24.689
interesting. I don't know. Do you think, if there

01:11:24.689 --> 01:11:27.810
is actually, who's to even fucking say what an

01:11:27.810 --> 01:11:29.810
alien even fucking looks like? They could just

01:11:29.810 --> 01:11:34.149
be a blob of fucking energy or whatever the fuck.

01:11:34.229 --> 01:11:37.130
But if we do personalize them like that, which

01:11:37.130 --> 01:11:40.159
we... as humans tend to do it makes it easier

01:11:40.159 --> 01:11:44.840
to fathom you know what i mean i couldn't fathom

01:11:44.840 --> 01:11:48.199
a being in here that's just a glob of dust or

01:11:48.199 --> 01:11:51.220
a cloud like i'm like whoa that's like this is

01:11:51.220 --> 01:11:54.659
insane but if i look at it from like uh oh you're

01:11:54.659 --> 01:11:57.579
like me you know what i mean as far away in the

01:11:57.579 --> 01:11:59.699
galaxy as you might be from oh you look kind

01:11:59.699 --> 01:12:03.020
of like me but well just think about the me when

01:12:03.020 --> 01:12:06.239
you say me it's very intangible right it's not

01:12:06.239 --> 01:12:09.119
like my hand my hand is right here right but

01:12:09.119 --> 01:12:11.859
my me like who i am my consciousness like where

01:12:11.859 --> 01:12:15.260
the is that where's that is that inside of me

01:12:15.260 --> 01:12:18.619
is it is it a part of me is it all of me together

01:12:18.619 --> 01:12:21.640
whatever it is it's like you like your consciousness

01:12:21.640 --> 01:12:25.470
is like this very unique energy that's you And

01:12:25.470 --> 01:12:27.609
mine is me and everybody has a different one.

01:12:27.729 --> 01:12:30.189
And it's what the fuck is that? Yeah. That's

01:12:30.189 --> 01:12:33.029
a weird thing. It certainly is. You know, whatever

01:12:33.029 --> 01:12:36.449
it is inside of your mind that's moving you around

01:12:36.449 --> 01:12:39.250
and responding to questions and finding what

01:12:39.250 --> 01:12:41.229
you're interested in and pursuing your goals

01:12:41.229 --> 01:12:43.590
like that, whatever the fuck that thing is inside

01:12:43.590 --> 01:12:46.390
of you, that energy is very strange. And it is.

01:12:46.390 --> 01:12:49.529
It's just super weird. I remember you asked me

01:12:49.529 --> 01:12:53.010
if I wanted to smoke and I can't. I don't really

01:12:53.010 --> 01:12:56.720
smoke anymore. And I actually talked for the

01:12:56.720 --> 01:12:58.840
longest time in my whole life. I couldn't really

01:12:58.840 --> 01:13:03.859
explain this. I couldn't like really like bring

01:13:03.859 --> 01:13:08.420
it to like words and try to explain it to where

01:13:08.420 --> 01:13:13.479
I wasn't like where just because was. It made

01:13:13.479 --> 01:13:16.939
no sense. But I talked to a couple of my buddies

01:13:16.939 --> 01:13:19.140
and they were like, oh, it's the same thing.

01:13:19.560 --> 01:13:23.000
So a lot of my friends from smoking weed, it's

01:13:23.000 --> 01:13:25.560
like almost like a depersonalization thing to

01:13:25.560 --> 01:13:28.460
where it feels like for the longest time since

01:13:28.460 --> 01:13:33.640
I had I smoked one bad joint. And for the longest

01:13:33.640 --> 01:13:35.720
time ever since then, it's felt like I've been

01:13:35.720 --> 01:13:40.939
almost like watching my life happen instead of

01:13:40.939 --> 01:13:43.100
actually like. living it does that make sense

01:13:43.100 --> 01:13:47.840
it does if you had like an episode like if you

01:13:47.840 --> 01:13:50.979
smoked one bad joint and you got way too high

01:13:50.979 --> 01:13:53.380
and you had like a break like some sort of a

01:13:53.380 --> 01:13:55.520
schizophrenic break or some sort of strange episode

01:13:55.520 --> 01:13:58.140
and and it just feels like a lot of the time

01:13:58.140 --> 01:14:01.640
it's like it's like i'm not doing it it's like

01:14:01.640 --> 01:14:07.000
almost as like i'm watching it happen still to

01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:09.739
this day to this day a lot of the time yeah And

01:14:09.739 --> 01:14:13.340
it happened because of that one time. I had never

01:14:13.340 --> 01:14:17.460
felt it in my life before that. Wow. And I talked

01:14:17.460 --> 01:14:22.760
to my friends, and they were like, oh, that's

01:14:22.760 --> 01:14:25.500
like depersonalization. I don't exactly know

01:14:25.500 --> 01:14:29.560
what happens or what goes on, but it's a pretty

01:14:29.560 --> 01:14:33.699
common thing, I feel like, for people who have

01:14:33.699 --> 01:14:37.210
had. a negative experience with, like, THC or

01:14:37.210 --> 01:14:39.789
something like that. Or whatever the fuck was

01:14:39.789 --> 01:14:42.149
in that joint that I had in L .A. that one time,

01:14:42.210 --> 01:14:44.050
you know? Right, you don't know what was in it.

01:14:44.329 --> 01:14:46.909
That's true, too. Maybe it was just fucking LSD

01:14:46.909 --> 01:14:49.369
or something, and it, like, totally just, like...

01:14:50.409 --> 01:14:53.529
caught me and but i felt different like to this

01:14:53.529 --> 01:14:55.430
day i still feel different that's so weird but

01:14:55.430 --> 01:14:58.350
it could just be thc this guy alex berenson wrote

01:14:58.350 --> 01:15:00.529
a book about it it's called tell your children

01:15:00.529 --> 01:15:04.470
and uh it's about how there's a certain percentage

01:15:04.470 --> 01:15:07.930
of people that especially with high dose thc

01:15:07.930 --> 01:15:10.970
they can have a schizophrenic break or a psychotic

01:15:10.970 --> 01:15:13.710
break something goes wrong i used to smoke crazy

01:15:14.490 --> 01:15:16.329
I used to smoke a lot, like do the volcanoes

01:15:16.329 --> 01:15:18.810
and all that shit. That's so fun. It was so fun.

01:15:19.010 --> 01:15:21.550
And one time, one time. One time. Wow, that's

01:15:21.550 --> 01:15:23.869
crazy. One time. Maybe there was something in

01:15:23.869 --> 01:15:26.649
it. I don't know. When you're just getting a

01:15:26.649 --> 01:15:29.149
joint from some dude, you don't know the chain

01:15:29.149 --> 01:15:32.449
of custody. No idea. Where was this cooked up?

01:15:32.649 --> 01:15:35.510
No idea. Ron White was in the green room at the

01:15:35.510 --> 01:15:37.630
club one night, and he pulled out this joint.

01:15:37.770 --> 01:15:41.090
He goes, this joint costs $75. I go, what the

01:15:41.090 --> 01:15:42.930
fuck is that? He goes, got it from Beverly Hills.

01:15:42.970 --> 01:15:45.649
I go, keep that shit the fuck away from me. So

01:15:45.649 --> 01:15:48.350
all these other guys smoked it. Brian Simpson

01:15:48.350 --> 01:15:50.270
smoked it. Duncan Trussell smoked it. And they

01:15:50.270 --> 01:15:52.329
went on stage. And Duncan said he didn't know

01:15:52.329 --> 01:15:54.779
what the fuck he was talking about. He was like,

01:15:54.840 --> 01:15:57.220
what did you do to me? What the fuck? I thought

01:15:57.220 --> 01:16:00.000
it was weed. But they get these joints now in

01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:03.579
these crazy dispensaries like in L .A. You know,

01:16:03.579 --> 01:16:06.539
it's legal now. So they're lacing them with THC.

01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:09.260
They got THC crystals in them and Keith in them.

01:16:09.619 --> 01:16:13.300
These are not regular joints. These are for dudes

01:16:13.300 --> 01:16:16.960
like Be Real. Like the kind of shit that he smokes.

01:16:17.340 --> 01:16:23.640
You know? Be Real from Cypress Hill. Explicitly

01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:26.140
for Be Real. That is the only man who can smoke

01:16:26.140 --> 01:16:29.159
this joint. That dude is stone cold sober no

01:16:29.159 --> 01:16:31.840
matter how high he gets. That is crazy, man.

01:16:32.079 --> 01:16:36.079
A lot of my buddies are like that too, man. You

01:16:36.079 --> 01:16:40.939
have to smoke a lot to feel high. I can't keep

01:16:40.939 --> 01:16:43.409
up with those fellas. I can't keep up with those.

01:16:43.489 --> 01:16:46.869
I did a smokebox show where they get you super

01:16:46.869 --> 01:16:49.050
high, and they put you in this dope car, and

01:16:49.050 --> 01:16:50.670
they have cameras in the car, and you sit there

01:16:50.670 --> 01:16:52.229
and just smoke each other. You just hotbox the

01:16:52.229 --> 01:16:55.130
car? Hotbox the car. And it's ridiculous. I was

01:16:55.130 --> 01:16:56.689
so high. I didn't know what the fuck I was talking

01:16:56.689 --> 01:16:58.050
about. I was like, I got to get out of here.

01:16:59.369 --> 01:17:03.149
I got to go to bed. I'm convinced, too, I get

01:17:03.149 --> 01:17:05.449
secondhand high from my green room. Oh, you definitely

01:17:05.449 --> 01:17:07.470
do. Because my buddy's fucking blowed down. You

01:17:07.470 --> 01:17:09.970
definitely do. I've seen people get secondhand

01:17:09.970 --> 01:17:12.520
high from me in this room. I've seen it where

01:17:12.520 --> 01:17:14.359
all of a sudden they have a hard time remembering

01:17:14.359 --> 01:17:16.340
what they're talking about. I go, bro, you got

01:17:16.340 --> 01:17:18.680
high. You got high whether you liked it or not.

01:17:20.100 --> 01:17:23.180
Maybe I am high. Maybe a little bit. Maybe a

01:17:23.180 --> 01:17:27.000
touch. It's nice. I had a stint too where I tried

01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:30.260
to smoke like maybe two years ago. Yeah. And

01:17:30.260 --> 01:17:33.079
I was like, it's amazing. But then like just

01:17:33.079 --> 01:17:37.180
shrooms is like for me, like just so much more

01:17:37.180 --> 01:17:41.280
fun for me. Shrooms should be legal. Yeah. Because,

01:17:41.280 --> 01:17:43.899
I mean, if you are, I mean, I'm not a psychologist

01:17:43.899 --> 01:17:45.979
or a psychiatrist, and if you're vulnerable,

01:17:46.220 --> 01:17:47.659
there's something wrong with your mind, you probably

01:17:47.659 --> 01:17:49.439
shouldn't be doing any kind of psychedelics.

01:17:49.819 --> 01:17:52.180
But that's the case with a lot of stuff. But

01:17:52.180 --> 01:17:55.800
for everybody else, just a little bit, just a

01:17:55.800 --> 01:17:57.539
little bit every now and then would make your

01:17:57.539 --> 01:17:58.960
life a little better. Well, it's interesting

01:17:58.960 --> 01:18:02.859
you said that, too, because now I talk to a bunch

01:18:02.859 --> 01:18:06.800
of my buddies, you know, who have served, and

01:18:06.800 --> 01:18:10.220
they said, oh, they're giving them. psilocybin

01:18:10.220 --> 01:18:13.899
to help with, like, PTSD and shit like that.

01:18:14.079 --> 01:18:15.880
Yeah, this shirt that I'm wearing, this is a

01:18:15.880 --> 01:18:19.199
MAP shirt, Multidisciplinary Association for

01:18:19.199 --> 01:18:21.640
Psychedelic Studies. You know these guys? And

01:18:21.640 --> 01:18:24.159
they are doing a lot of great work with that

01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:27.460
with MDMA, too. MDMA for soldiers. And so they're

01:18:27.460 --> 01:18:29.960
running these trials and these studies with MDMA

01:18:29.960 --> 01:18:31.920
and soldiers, and they're finding great results.

01:18:32.260 --> 01:18:34.680
Yeah, it's really interesting. And it's just

01:18:34.680 --> 01:18:39.539
like, this is literally... Eating cow shit. It's

01:18:39.539 --> 01:18:41.899
nature. And it's nature that human beings have

01:18:41.899 --> 01:18:44.260
utilized probably for thousands of years. And

01:18:44.260 --> 01:18:46.359
we should get back to it. You got to wonder if

01:18:46.359 --> 01:18:50.220
that's, I mean, we know why it's not legal. Because

01:18:50.220 --> 01:18:55.079
it's going to make people invent tools and have

01:18:55.079 --> 01:18:57.739
better communication with each other and be more,

01:18:57.840 --> 01:19:01.340
you know. But the people that are, they should

01:19:01.340 --> 01:19:03.060
listen to this. The people that are trying to

01:19:03.060 --> 01:19:05.949
run the world. You should be doing it too. Because

01:19:05.949 --> 01:19:07.510
if you did, it would change your consciousness

01:19:07.510 --> 01:19:09.350
and it would change your focus. And you would

01:19:09.350 --> 01:19:11.670
still be just as successful. Don't think you

01:19:11.670 --> 01:19:13.590
won't be. You'll still be successful. You'll

01:19:13.590 --> 01:19:16.510
be successful under a different metric. You'll

01:19:16.510 --> 01:19:18.789
probably feel better. And you won't have this

01:19:18.789 --> 01:19:21.609
fucking guilt, this overwhelming guilt of living

01:19:21.609 --> 01:19:25.989
your life just constantly trying to acquire money

01:19:25.989 --> 01:19:28.770
by unscrupulous methods. Spend your money on

01:19:28.770 --> 01:19:30.890
shrooms. You don't even have to spend that much

01:19:30.890 --> 01:19:33.649
money. You just go flip some slugging cow tears.

01:19:33.649 --> 01:19:35.609
They're not that expensive, and if you live in

01:19:35.609 --> 01:19:37.710
a good spot, they're readily available outside,

01:19:38.069 --> 01:19:41.130
which is wild. I'm good, man. Thank you, though.

01:19:43.189 --> 01:19:44.890
It's just one of those things that I think nature

01:19:44.890 --> 01:19:49.850
put here, or we are, and maybe not even by design,

01:19:49.989 --> 01:19:54.630
but just by whatever it is about us and whatever

01:19:54.630 --> 01:19:58.050
it is about that. When that chemical interacts

01:19:58.050 --> 01:20:01.189
with ours, and it's very similar to normal human

01:20:01.189 --> 01:20:06.909
neurochemistry, apparently, that psilocybin,

01:20:06.909 --> 01:20:09.130
when it interacts with us, it's very positive

01:20:09.130 --> 01:20:12.170
for the most part. Again, unless you have psychological

01:20:12.170 --> 01:20:18.409
problems. Or on certain medications. It made

01:20:18.409 --> 01:20:24.859
me... I was so fucking depressed and so fucking

01:20:24.859 --> 01:20:29.359
sad for so long. And doing shrooms, it took me

01:20:29.359 --> 01:20:33.439
out of that. It made me see shit in, like, such

01:20:33.439 --> 01:20:35.600
a more... Like, it's not all fucking shitty.

01:20:36.020 --> 01:20:38.739
It's not all shitty. But did it feel all shitty

01:20:38.739 --> 01:20:41.260
for you even while you were successful? Yeah.

01:20:41.500 --> 01:20:43.699
That's what's weird, right? Right, exactly. Because

01:20:43.699 --> 01:20:46.199
then you have it all, and yet you still feel

01:20:46.199 --> 01:20:48.460
like shit. Yes, sir. That confuses a lot of folks.

01:20:48.500 --> 01:20:52.060
Yes, sir. And especially, like... I was fucking

01:20:52.060 --> 01:20:55.560
18, like, whenever the shit popped off. And I

01:20:55.560 --> 01:20:58.720
was like, oh, fuck, man. I don't know what the

01:20:58.720 --> 01:21:01.420
fuck to do. Everybody's looking at me. I don't,

01:21:01.420 --> 01:21:03.920
you know. And I can't even imagine how, like,

01:21:03.979 --> 01:21:10.340
a Bieber or a Culkin, like, or child actors or

01:21:10.340 --> 01:21:15.810
performers, like, how you even. Even your parents,

01:21:15.949 --> 01:21:18.270
and I don't want to say anything about those

01:21:18.270 --> 01:21:21.729
people's parents specifically or in particular,

01:21:21.850 --> 01:21:25.590
but the parents even then are like, how much

01:21:25.590 --> 01:21:28.529
money can we make off of this kid? And you see

01:21:28.529 --> 01:21:31.609
a lot of YouTube families doing that shit. It's

01:21:31.609 --> 01:21:33.210
like, this kid doesn't know what the fuck is

01:21:33.210 --> 01:21:35.989
going on here. He doesn't know what's going on

01:21:35.989 --> 01:21:40.090
here. You're just monetizing your cute kid. You

01:21:40.090 --> 01:21:43.130
know what I mean? It's crazy. It's crazy. It

01:21:43.130 --> 01:21:45.899
is weird. And that's why, like, even when I had

01:21:45.899 --> 01:21:48.840
my baby, you see a lot of the time people are

01:21:48.840 --> 01:21:53.520
like, first thing that happens, baby gets baby

01:21:53.520 --> 01:21:57.760
fresh out of the coochie. Right. And then right

01:21:57.760 --> 01:22:00.000
to Instagram or Twitter or whatever. Here's my

01:22:00.000 --> 01:22:04.180
new fucking baby. Like, no shit. And like. The

01:22:04.180 --> 01:22:05.859
kid doesn't know what the fuck is happening.

01:22:05.920 --> 01:22:08.239
So whenever they're older, they'll be like, oh,

01:22:08.260 --> 01:22:10.819
I saw your ass when you were a baby. You know

01:22:10.819 --> 01:22:16.699
what I mean? But I remember I had the pleasure

01:22:16.699 --> 01:22:20.500
and the privilege to pull my baby out. And I

01:22:20.500 --> 01:22:26.720
was like, oh, fuck. Wow. This is like head all

01:22:26.720 --> 01:22:31.939
scrubbed up. So it was. crazy and I'm like you

01:22:31.939 --> 01:22:34.579
know what you can in this world that we live

01:22:34.579 --> 01:22:37.560
in right now where everything is based off of

01:22:37.560 --> 01:22:42.220
a social currency and a like or a heart metric

01:22:42.220 --> 01:22:47.199
on any platform I'm going to let you fucking

01:22:47.199 --> 01:22:50.960
decide whenever you want to do that you know

01:22:50.960 --> 01:22:55.500
yeah that's a great way to do it I feel like

01:22:55.500 --> 01:22:59.880
people are just so entrenched in this idea that

01:22:59.880 --> 01:23:02.840
you have to share every aspect of your life and

01:23:02.840 --> 01:23:06.060
use that aspect of your life as a thing to get

01:23:06.060 --> 01:23:10.279
likes. That's what's weird. When they invented

01:23:10.279 --> 01:23:13.960
likes, boy, did they fucking hotwire our brain.

01:23:14.500 --> 01:23:15.899
They lockpicked our brain. And they took away

01:23:15.899 --> 01:23:19.020
dislikes. Yeah, they did. Isn't that wild? Yeah.

01:23:19.239 --> 01:23:21.619
That's wild, too. That's wild, too. Isn't that

01:23:21.619 --> 01:23:23.640
crazy? It is wild. I think about that all the

01:23:23.640 --> 01:23:28.199
time. I'm like, hot. Yeah. Why? I don't know.

01:23:28.279 --> 01:23:32.819
To be nice? I don't think it's, you know, look,

01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:34.619
you're going to get people to gang up on folks.

01:23:34.779 --> 01:23:37.319
Sure. You're going to get people that weaponize

01:23:37.319 --> 01:23:40.859
that. But that's also a way to indicate whether

01:23:40.859 --> 01:23:43.399
or not people like it or don't like it. I mean,

01:23:43.399 --> 01:23:45.659
that's the way to indicate whether people like

01:23:45.659 --> 01:23:47.079
it or don't like it. Are you saying I can only

01:23:47.079 --> 01:23:49.640
like it? Yeah. I can like it or ignore it. So,

01:23:49.640 --> 01:23:53.850
like, then you can buy that. you know gauge you

01:23:53.850 --> 01:23:55.829
can tell if people really like the video say

01:23:55.829 --> 01:23:58.670
the video gets a hundred million or a let's just

01:23:58.670 --> 01:24:00.970
say a million views right and then like oh a

01:24:00.970 --> 01:24:03.630
thousand people like this oh they didn't really

01:24:03.630 --> 01:24:06.170
like that right that's weird right why did it

01:24:06.170 --> 01:24:08.609
get so many views then you can kind of just subtract

01:24:08.609 --> 01:24:13.390
yeah the amount of likes versus the views and

01:24:13.390 --> 01:24:16.000
then be like well Well, there's always hate liking

01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:18.380
or hate watching. People do a lot of hate watching.

01:24:18.560 --> 01:24:20.600
They do a lot of watching shit they hate. I'm

01:24:20.600 --> 01:24:22.819
a little guilty of that. You seen the new NPC

01:24:22.819 --> 01:24:26.880
trend? What is the new NPC trend? All right.

01:24:27.020 --> 01:24:29.119
So maybe, can you, Jamie, would you - I know

01:24:29.119 --> 01:24:31.279
what an NPC is. It is so - Not a player character,

01:24:31.300 --> 01:24:35.140
right? It is crazy, dude. Is it the memes? It

01:24:35.140 --> 01:24:37.739
is the TikTok of people that will live stream

01:24:37.739 --> 01:24:41.079
for hours of doing, and so they'll just stay

01:24:41.079 --> 01:24:45.399
in like a stance like this. Oh, so they act like

01:24:45.399 --> 01:24:47.640
they're a video player. Whenever someone gives

01:24:47.640 --> 01:24:52.699
them money or something, on TikTok, they'll react

01:24:52.699 --> 01:24:55.939
to it in a way, and they'll do it for hours and

01:24:55.939 --> 01:24:58.619
hours. Oh, I saw this young, pretty girl that

01:24:58.619 --> 01:25:00.720
was doing that. It is crazy. And everybody was

01:25:00.720 --> 01:25:02.939
going, what is going on? What is this? It is

01:25:02.939 --> 01:25:05.560
crazy. Ice cream's so good. Ice cream's so good.

01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:08.850
Ice cream's so good. And I'm like, wow. This

01:25:08.850 --> 01:25:13.050
is kind of crazy. What is that? It's crazy. Does

01:25:13.050 --> 01:25:14.789
she ever break character, or does she just keep

01:25:14.789 --> 01:25:16.069
doing that? I don't remember her name. I was

01:25:16.069 --> 01:25:17.710
trying to find her. I was going through a few

01:25:17.710 --> 01:25:20.310
different things. That was one of those wake

01:25:20.310 --> 01:25:21.289
-up call videos. I think she only breaks character

01:25:21.289 --> 01:25:24.369
to like, I remember her kid came in on one of

01:25:24.369 --> 01:25:26.210
the streams, and she's like, what are you doing?

01:25:26.250 --> 01:25:29.390
Get out of here. That's hilarious. But now it's

01:25:29.390 --> 01:25:33.829
not just her. It's like a thing. Whoa. Thank

01:25:33.829 --> 01:25:36.529
you, sir. Here's the one that got viral first.

01:25:37.329 --> 01:25:39.930
Pinky Doll is her name. And she reveals staggering

01:25:39.930 --> 01:25:43.449
earnings. And they're making cash. Wow. And this

01:25:43.449 --> 01:25:47.609
is the one. Gang gang. Gang gang. Gang gang.

01:25:47.670 --> 01:25:51.869
Oh, special. Gang gang. Gang gang. Gang gang.

01:25:52.109 --> 01:25:56.529
Balloon. Gang gang. Gang gang. Mm, that was good.

01:25:56.670 --> 01:25:58.989
Lemonade. Hee -haw, yes. You got me feeling like

01:25:58.989 --> 01:26:01.750
a cowgirl. Let me run it, huh? Hee -haw, yes.

01:26:01.770 --> 01:26:03.390
You got me feeling like a cowgirl. Let me run

01:26:03.390 --> 01:26:08.370
it, huh? Slay, huh? Slay, huh? Slay, huh? Wow.

01:26:08.370 --> 01:26:13.229
It's crazy. That's so strange. It's crazy. It's

01:26:13.229 --> 01:26:15.710
crazy. But she's really hot, and that helps.

01:26:16.609 --> 01:26:19.310
That's why that works. Let's not pretend. No.

01:26:19.489 --> 01:26:22.569
If she was gross, that lady's beautiful. So when

01:26:22.569 --> 01:26:24.090
she does that, people are like, what is she doing?

01:26:24.409 --> 01:26:28.109
Get her to lick her lips. $7 ,000 a day. $7 ,000

01:26:28.109 --> 01:26:31.930
a day. That's pretty damn good. Not bad. How

01:26:31.930 --> 01:26:34.689
long did she do it for? Did it say on there?

01:26:34.810 --> 01:26:37.560
Let's see. 48 hours in a row. She's doing that.

01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:41.220
This was a three -week binge. She didn't sleep.

01:26:41.520 --> 01:26:45.579
What is it? The Russian sleep experiment or whatever

01:26:45.579 --> 01:26:47.979
the hell? Right, right, right. But just some

01:26:47.979 --> 01:26:50.380
NPC streamers. What did they figure out from

01:26:50.380 --> 01:26:52.800
that? What is the limit of the human body where

01:26:52.800 --> 01:26:54.600
you can go without sleep? Well, I don't know

01:26:54.600 --> 01:26:59.239
if that experiment was real. Oh, really? Because

01:26:59.239 --> 01:27:01.399
you hear the story about it. You know the one

01:27:01.399 --> 01:27:03.380
where they're like... I don't know if it's just

01:27:03.380 --> 01:27:06.159
like a creepypasta or whatever when they did

01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:07.699
the sleep experiment. That's what Ricky says.

01:27:08.159 --> 01:27:10.140
What happened? Ricky says it's a creepypasta.

01:27:10.340 --> 01:27:12.340
Yeah, it's a creepypasta. What is a creepypasta?

01:27:12.520 --> 01:27:17.279
It's like a creepy story. Like a scary story

01:27:17.279 --> 01:27:18.779
that people... Just a story that people tell

01:27:18.779 --> 01:27:22.100
that's not real. But I wonder if... Oh, isn't

01:27:22.100 --> 01:27:23.460
that like they murdered each other or something

01:27:23.460 --> 01:27:25.880
like that? Yeah, they started murdering everybody.

01:27:26.100 --> 01:27:29.000
So they say in the story. It's a story. That

01:27:29.000 --> 01:27:31.159
makes sense. That makes sense that it's not real.

01:27:31.180 --> 01:27:34.520
Did they ever really push that? If they did,

01:27:34.600 --> 01:27:39.840
they probably won't talk about it. It's so inhumane.

01:27:40.979 --> 01:27:43.479
Well, you think about, fuck, they're going to

01:27:43.479 --> 01:27:49.170
kill me. Like MKUltra and all that shit, man.

01:27:49.390 --> 01:27:52.670
I was about to go there. All that shit. I'll

01:27:52.670 --> 01:27:54.989
let you talk about it. I just know what it is,

01:27:55.010 --> 01:27:59.310
but I don't know anything about it. It's a real

01:27:59.310 --> 01:28:03.579
program that the CIA was running. where they

01:28:03.579 --> 01:28:06.100
were experimenting with people with LSD to find

01:28:06.100 --> 01:28:08.579
out what LSD did. And they wanted to know, like,

01:28:08.619 --> 01:28:11.300
how can we use it? Can we use it to interrogate

01:28:11.300 --> 01:28:14.140
our enemies? Can we use it as a truth serum?

01:28:14.439 --> 01:28:17.819
What can we do with it? By the way, guys, I have

01:28:17.819 --> 01:28:22.500
no idea what this stuff is. There you go. And

01:28:22.500 --> 01:28:25.140
what they did was they started experimenting,

01:28:25.359 --> 01:28:28.220
and not just the United States. They did it with

01:28:28.220 --> 01:28:31.359
British soldiers, too, in the 1950s. There's

01:28:31.359 --> 01:28:34.000
a video of these British soldiers that they gave

01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:36.119
them acid. See if you can find that, because

01:28:36.119 --> 01:28:38.680
it's a wild video. These dudes, they just dosed

01:28:38.680 --> 01:28:40.020
them up and had them running through the woods.

01:28:40.060 --> 01:28:45.579
They're like, ah! So do you have, like, Manhunters

01:28:45.579 --> 01:28:48.380
on that? You ever watch that show, Manhunter?

01:28:48.810 --> 01:28:50.989
What is that? He's like the guy that, like, he's

01:28:50.989 --> 01:28:52.630
like, all right, if you can hide, I'm the best

01:28:52.630 --> 01:28:54.449
tracker in the world. If you can hide from me

01:28:54.449 --> 01:28:57.630
on my horse. But how do they keep track of what

01:28:57.630 --> 01:29:00.050
they did in the woods? That's a good question.

01:29:00.250 --> 01:29:03.430
How do they, Jamie? What, in this case? Yeah.

01:29:03.529 --> 01:29:06.289
They filmed them. Right. But what if they went

01:29:06.289 --> 01:29:08.350
super deep? Yeah, right. How do they keep track

01:29:08.350 --> 01:29:10.350
of them? Keep them from just going on an acid

01:29:10.350 --> 01:29:14.420
marathon? We risk it, I think. I don't know.

01:29:14.579 --> 01:29:16.420
Yeah, they didn't give a fuck about these dudes.

01:29:16.659 --> 01:29:18.239
They were going to send these dudes in front

01:29:18.239 --> 01:29:21.579
of bullets. I mean, this is the fucking right

01:29:21.579 --> 01:29:23.739
after storming the beach at Normandy days. You

01:29:23.739 --> 01:29:25.739
know, these are wild times, man. People just

01:29:25.739 --> 01:29:27.760
ran into gunfire back then. They were different

01:29:27.760 --> 01:29:30.420
men. Are these guys all on acid right now? Yes.

01:29:30.420 --> 01:29:33.079
Watch them start laughing. They can't stop laughing.

01:29:33.359 --> 01:29:35.520
So they're soldiers, and they're sitting there

01:29:35.520 --> 01:29:38.460
doing their job, but they can't stop laughing.

01:29:40.149 --> 01:29:41.970
They're just tripping balls. And then later,

01:29:42.010 --> 01:29:44.109
there's some footage of them in the woods. They

01:29:44.109 --> 01:29:46.869
took them to the woods afterwards. I think this

01:29:46.869 --> 01:29:49.029
might be a different one because I have not seen

01:29:49.029 --> 01:29:51.609
this one. But I think they did it with a bunch

01:29:51.609 --> 01:29:55.090
of people. And they did it at Harvard. Ted Kaczynski,

01:29:55.109 --> 01:29:57.149
the Unabomber, he was a part of the Harvard LSD

01:29:57.149 --> 01:30:00.850
studies. He was a participant? Yeah. No shit.

01:30:00.909 --> 01:30:02.970
They dosed that dude up with acid? No shit. Yeah,

01:30:02.970 --> 01:30:04.930
they dosed him up with acid. And then he was,

01:30:05.029 --> 01:30:07.369
you know, he had a - Did that guy have a rifle?

01:30:07.960 --> 01:30:11.560
They can give a dude with a rifle LSD. But yet

01:30:11.560 --> 01:30:14.100
they did. Look at these dudes. They got cameras

01:30:14.100 --> 01:30:17.460
and fucking, what is it? He's holding onto his

01:30:17.460 --> 01:30:19.119
headphones. He's trying to put the headphones

01:30:19.119 --> 01:30:21.479
on the tree. They can't stop laughing. Look,

01:30:21.680 --> 01:30:24.220
it's like a great drug. And they were like, okay,

01:30:24.340 --> 01:30:26.979
this has no military purpose at all. We cannot

01:30:26.979 --> 01:30:29.380
use this. This is exactly the opposite of what

01:30:29.380 --> 01:30:32.439
we want. What did they do? Chop it? They're chopping

01:30:32.439 --> 01:30:35.239
it? Are they chopping a tree? I don't know. This

01:30:35.239 --> 01:30:37.100
guy's climbing a fucking tree. He's out of his

01:30:37.100 --> 01:30:39.399
mind. Why do they have firearms? Because they're

01:30:39.399 --> 01:30:41.859
army guys. That's crazy, though. Yeah, British

01:30:41.859 --> 01:30:47.840
Marines. 1964, that was. So what the CIA was

01:30:47.840 --> 01:30:53.159
doing is they were experimenting with prostitutes.

01:30:53.520 --> 01:30:55.340
So what they would do is they would set up a

01:30:55.340 --> 01:30:57.460
brothel, and they would have these guys go in

01:30:57.460 --> 01:31:00.020
to try to get with the prostitute, and the prostitute

01:31:00.020 --> 01:31:02.970
was a CIA agent. She would give them... a drink

01:31:02.970 --> 01:31:05.149
that was laced with acid, and they would watch

01:31:05.149 --> 01:31:08.989
these guys through two -way mirrors. That's insane.

01:31:09.250 --> 01:31:10.529
Yeah, they were just trying to figure out what

01:31:10.529 --> 01:31:14.609
does acid do? And it was just totally unsuspecting.

01:31:14.670 --> 01:31:17.609
Yeah. And then there was mind control experiments.

01:31:18.300 --> 01:31:21.619
There's definitely something going on with Charles

01:31:21.619 --> 01:31:24.619
Manson, and that's the Tom O 'Neill book, Chaos.

01:31:24.699 --> 01:31:28.119
It's a great book about MKUltra and the role

01:31:28.119 --> 01:31:30.279
that these guys that were running that program,

01:31:30.600 --> 01:31:32.619
that they interacted with Manson. They interacted

01:31:32.619 --> 01:31:35.800
with him in prison, and they think that... They

01:31:35.800 --> 01:31:37.300
might have been the people that were supplying

01:31:37.300 --> 01:31:40.460
him with the acid or he was using it to manipulate

01:31:40.460 --> 01:31:43.460
those kids. And the whole thing was to discredit

01:31:43.460 --> 01:31:46.380
the anti -war movement. They were trying to develop

01:31:46.380 --> 01:31:48.939
this attitude in America that hippies are dangerous

01:31:48.939 --> 01:31:51.439
and murderous. And, you know, these people that

01:31:51.439 --> 01:31:53.899
are like, stop the war. These people are, they're

01:31:53.899 --> 01:31:56.960
a threat. Sure. And so one of the ways they did

01:31:56.960 --> 01:32:00.020
it was this high profile guy, Charles Manson.

01:32:00.119 --> 01:32:02.899
And they take this guy and they taught him how

01:32:02.899 --> 01:32:05.060
to run a fucking cult when he was in prison,

01:32:05.140 --> 01:32:08.000
most likely. What was he in prison for beforehand?

01:32:08.399 --> 01:32:10.920
Oh, he's been in prison his whole life. His whole

01:32:10.920 --> 01:32:13.319
life. Where's he from? That's a good question.

01:32:13.699 --> 01:32:16.739
I don't know where Manson was from. Thank you.

01:32:17.319 --> 01:32:20.100
But the book. Chaos, I can't recommend it enough.

01:32:20.220 --> 01:32:22.399
It's fucking incredible. The guy worked on it

01:32:22.399 --> 01:32:24.520
for 20 years. I've talked about it 100 times

01:32:24.520 --> 01:32:25.899
on the podcast. If you listened to it before,

01:32:26.039 --> 01:32:29.439
I'm sorry. But that guy, who is my friend Greg's

01:32:29.439 --> 01:32:31.640
neighbor, my friend Greg Fitzsimmons, he was

01:32:31.640 --> 01:32:33.340
this guy's neighbor like 20 years ago, and he

01:32:33.340 --> 01:32:35.399
was working on this. And he got hired to write

01:32:35.399 --> 01:32:39.460
a story about the anniversary of the Tate -LaBianca

01:32:39.460 --> 01:32:44.140
murders. And when he got hired to write that

01:32:44.140 --> 01:32:46.119
story, he started finding all these inconsistencies

01:32:46.119 --> 01:32:48.479
in the story. And so he started doing like real

01:32:48.479 --> 01:32:50.279
journalism. And it's just like he went on a deep

01:32:50.279 --> 01:32:52.739
dive, like way too long. And he wrote it for

01:32:52.739 --> 01:32:56.279
20 fucking years. Yeah. And finally they got

01:32:56.279 --> 01:32:58.039
together. They helped him with an editor and

01:32:58.039 --> 01:32:59.220
they put it all together and they put together

01:32:59.220 --> 01:33:01.779
this book. This book is insane. It's insane.

01:33:02.060 --> 01:33:06.119
Yeah. It's I don't know. That's such a crazy.

01:33:06.319 --> 01:33:11.439
It's so crazy. And the thing about. I don't know

01:33:11.439 --> 01:33:17.340
if it's harder to like pull the wool over people's

01:33:17.340 --> 01:33:22.439
eyes now rather than then. Does that make sense?

01:33:22.619 --> 01:33:25.800
Yeah. I don't know either. Because there's so

01:33:25.800 --> 01:33:27.640
many different, like we were talking about the

01:33:27.640 --> 01:33:30.380
news. Yeah. You know, you go on the news and.

01:33:30.800 --> 01:33:33.439
you get caught in this, it's like a perpetual,

01:33:33.640 --> 01:33:35.720
it's a wheel. You know what I mean? And you just

01:33:35.720 --> 01:33:38.079
keep getting, especially now due to the algorithms

01:33:38.079 --> 01:33:41.399
that we have, you just keep getting fed the same

01:33:41.399 --> 01:33:45.319
information to like perpetuate what you want

01:33:45.319 --> 01:33:48.380
to learn about and what they want you to know

01:33:48.380 --> 01:33:52.579
about. But back then, it wasn't as accessible.

01:33:53.300 --> 01:33:57.920
So I wonder if it was harder back then to like...

01:33:58.319 --> 01:34:01.279
trick the populace into believing something than

01:34:01.279 --> 01:34:04.659
it is now. I think it was probably easier because

01:34:04.659 --> 01:34:06.760
I think they probably had more respect for institutions

01:34:06.760 --> 01:34:08.880
because they didn't have the access to them that

01:34:08.880 --> 01:34:11.859
we have now. Like think about what a president

01:34:11.859 --> 01:34:14.680
was like back then. Presidents openly had affairs.

01:34:15.340 --> 01:34:19.439
No one reported on it. They were just revered

01:34:19.439 --> 01:34:21.220
figures. It was a different thing. Like when

01:34:21.220 --> 01:34:23.479
Kennedy was a president, sure, definitely people

01:34:23.479 --> 01:34:26.039
hated him, especially Republicans. A lot of people

01:34:26.039 --> 01:34:29.119
hated him for the Bay of Pigs. The press didn't

01:34:29.119 --> 01:34:34.460
hate him. Everybody knew who he was. That's not

01:34:34.460 --> 01:34:38.800
the case today. The world is such a hostile place

01:34:38.800 --> 01:34:41.720
today. We don't have respect for institutions

01:34:41.720 --> 01:34:43.720
anymore. We don't have respect for mainstream

01:34:43.720 --> 01:34:46.479
media for a lot of fucking reasons. We don't

01:34:46.479 --> 01:34:49.140
have respect for mainstream news. We look at

01:34:49.140 --> 01:34:52.140
them like, all right, maybe this is real. We

01:34:52.140 --> 01:34:53.420
don't look at it like this is the unbiased. You

01:34:53.420 --> 01:34:55.300
take everything with that grain of salt. Exactly.

01:34:55.539 --> 01:34:59.090
And we know that there's... deep political agendas

01:34:59.090 --> 01:35:02.050
in reporting any story, in the perspective, the

01:35:02.050 --> 01:35:06.250
editorializing of these perspectives. It's just

01:35:06.250 --> 01:35:09.949
there's a lot of what humans are is what we're

01:35:09.949 --> 01:35:13.130
getting influenced by. And when you're getting

01:35:13.130 --> 01:35:15.989
influenced by propaganda and horseshit all the

01:35:15.989 --> 01:35:19.130
time, it has an effect on you, whether you like

01:35:19.130 --> 01:35:22.199
it or not. It might not be 100 % effective, but

01:35:22.199 --> 01:35:25.119
it has some sort of an effect on you where you're

01:35:25.119 --> 01:35:27.840
willing to let these people who are just people,

01:35:27.960 --> 01:35:29.859
they're no different than you and no different

01:35:29.859 --> 01:35:32.840
than me, but you'll let them talk to you and

01:35:32.840 --> 01:35:37.479
talk to us as if they are in control of us. And

01:35:37.479 --> 01:35:40.520
that is not supposed to be how America works.

01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:43.880
And that's just a natural human power structure

01:35:43.880 --> 01:35:46.659
thing that we've had since we were tribal creatures.

01:35:47.640 --> 01:35:50.899
It's a natural inclination to want to be that

01:35:50.899 --> 01:35:54.140
and want to do that. But we have to protect against

01:35:54.140 --> 01:35:57.140
that at all costs. Because just because it seems

01:35:57.140 --> 01:35:59.619
like you would like those things to be implemented

01:35:59.619 --> 01:36:02.600
because they fit your perspective and your worldview,

01:36:02.920 --> 01:36:05.800
the problem is now there's tools in place for

01:36:05.800 --> 01:36:08.500
tyrants. And now there's tools in place for people

01:36:08.500 --> 01:36:10.680
who don't share your perspective and don't have

01:36:10.680 --> 01:36:13.659
a charitable view of human beings and are ruthless

01:36:13.659 --> 01:36:17.039
and maybe psychotic. But that's the beginning.

01:36:17.159 --> 01:36:21.680
that's the beginning of it all too yes it's been

01:36:21.680 --> 01:36:24.760
happening like Nero and fucking just like Rome

01:36:24.760 --> 01:36:29.260
was super like everything you look at like everything

01:36:29.260 --> 01:36:32.119
it was a republic you know like everybody was

01:36:32.119 --> 01:36:34.420
everybody had a vote everybody had a say everybody

01:36:34.420 --> 01:36:37.359
but the guys who were running well everybody

01:36:37.359 --> 01:36:41.420
was drinking from lead and everybody was like

01:36:41.420 --> 01:36:43.560
you know what I mean yeah they had lead drinking

01:36:43.560 --> 01:36:46.739
vessels and it was just insane this Dude built

01:36:46.739 --> 01:36:50.319
this statue like fucking 100 feet tall of himself.

01:36:50.880 --> 01:36:55.579
And then Rome set on fucking fire. And it's crazy.

01:36:55.800 --> 01:36:57.640
And that's just been happening and it's been

01:36:57.640 --> 01:37:01.520
repeating forever. Forever. And I don't know

01:37:01.520 --> 01:37:05.100
exactly how long, but, you know, history repeats

01:37:05.100 --> 01:37:08.189
itself. And then you look at a cycle of. Of,

01:37:08.189 --> 01:37:11.909
like, how civilizations come and go this way.

01:37:12.010 --> 01:37:14.010
And it's just, like, I don't know. I know. When

01:37:14.010 --> 01:37:16.109
I was a kid, I used to think about America that

01:37:16.109 --> 01:37:17.970
way. When I was a kid, I was like, well, you

01:37:17.970 --> 01:37:19.810
know, you read about ancient Greece and ancient

01:37:19.810 --> 01:37:23.289
Rome and these great civilizations that they

01:37:23.289 --> 01:37:26.470
fell. Like, what happened? Did they see it coming?

01:37:27.050 --> 01:37:28.869
And I was like, would I see it coming? Would

01:37:28.869 --> 01:37:30.550
I know it was coming? Is it going to happen to

01:37:30.550 --> 01:37:33.310
us? Right. We don't want to ever think it could

01:37:33.310 --> 01:37:34.970
happen to us because we're on the top. We're

01:37:34.970 --> 01:37:36.930
number one. We're fucking America. We're the

01:37:36.930 --> 01:37:39.090
youngest fucking country in the fucking world.

01:37:39.229 --> 01:37:42.489
Yeah. And it can happen to us. You got to be

01:37:42.489 --> 01:37:44.229
real careful that we don't become just like all

01:37:44.229 --> 01:37:47.010
these ones that we talk about when we say, boy,

01:37:47.170 --> 01:37:50.630
be glad you're not living in that place. Because

01:37:50.630 --> 01:37:53.989
places go through cycles. Some places are amazing

01:37:53.989 --> 01:37:57.529
and then they get invaded. Some places, you know,

01:37:57.550 --> 01:37:58.649
some places are filled with - Well, look at Atlantis.

01:37:58.869 --> 01:38:02.989
Yeah. Well, that's probably - That one's probably

01:38:02.989 --> 01:38:07.189
an ocean thing. Yeah, that's - That's probably

01:38:07.189 --> 01:38:09.829
- That's mama nature coming in. That's probably

01:38:09.829 --> 01:38:13.149
an impact thing. Do you believe in Atlantis,

01:38:13.210 --> 01:38:15.369
Joe Rogan? Yes, I do. Yes, I do. I think it was

01:38:15.369 --> 01:38:17.689
a real place. You talked about the younger -

01:38:17.689 --> 01:38:20.710
Dryas. Dryas. Yeah. And I was watching a thing

01:38:20.710 --> 01:38:25.229
recently, actually, about - how they think that

01:38:25.229 --> 01:38:28.210
the Egyptians just found the pyramids and the

01:38:28.210 --> 01:38:33.430
Sphinx, and how you can see the Younger Dryas

01:38:33.430 --> 01:38:36.850
affecting the Sphinx and the pyramids like that,

01:38:37.010 --> 01:38:42.949
and how that... shit happened i mean yeah i'm

01:38:42.949 --> 01:38:45.869
not i'm not fully as encompassed as you i'm sure

01:38:45.869 --> 01:38:47.430
because i just now learned about the younger

01:38:47.430 --> 01:38:50.770
dryas but well for sure this is what you can

01:38:50.770 --> 01:38:52.449
say for sure because this gets people very upset

01:38:52.449 --> 01:38:55.130
for sure is it yeah this is because they but

01:38:55.130 --> 01:38:56.989
i don't know why but just you have to kind of

01:38:56.989 --> 01:38:58.829
like say a few things okay one thing is that

01:38:58.829 --> 01:39:01.069
for sure the egyptians made it because it was

01:39:01.069 --> 01:39:03.869
in egypt okay like it's just different yes it's

01:39:03.869 --> 01:39:06.229
i think what we're saying is they're people from

01:39:06.229 --> 01:39:08.890
a different era yes sir and this is the whole

01:39:09.470 --> 01:39:12.590
proposal that Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson

01:39:12.590 --> 01:39:15.699
have. Yes, sir. Like with that younger drives

01:39:15.699 --> 01:39:18.039
impact theory people get crazy about this and

01:39:18.039 --> 01:39:19.600
they think it's well I didn't mean to offend

01:39:19.600 --> 01:39:22.220
anybody if I did no you definitely didn't okay,

01:39:22.279 --> 01:39:23.859
but there's people that call it a racist theory

01:39:23.859 --> 01:39:26.500
It's very strange because it's really yeah, yeah

01:39:26.500 --> 01:39:29.920
It's it's it's real weird, and they've applied

01:39:29.920 --> 01:39:32.300
that to Graham Hancock, and it's ridiculous doesn't

01:39:32.300 --> 01:39:34.220
make any sense He's he's not saying anything

01:39:34.220 --> 01:39:36.380
about the race of the people that did it. It's

01:39:36.380 --> 01:39:40.319
about time the whole issue is about time And

01:39:40.319 --> 01:39:43.779
what they believe is that somewhere around 11

01:39:43.779 --> 01:39:46.560
,800 years ago and probably a couple other times,

01:39:46.659 --> 01:39:50.569
we got... obliterated by comet impacts comet

01:39:50.569 --> 01:39:53.069
fragments Slammed into the earth and there's

01:39:53.069 --> 01:39:55.670
a lot of evidence of this physical evidence of

01:39:55.670 --> 01:39:58.229
iridium levels of iridium Nano diamonds that

01:39:58.229 --> 01:40:01.069
happen on impact this shit is all over the world

01:40:01.069 --> 01:40:04.630
you could find giant craters in places where

01:40:04.630 --> 01:40:07.369
the like Greenland and there's places were 100

01:40:07.369 --> 01:40:10.710
% they got obliterated by a giant chunk of something

01:40:10.710 --> 01:40:13.609
What they believe is that this ended the ice

01:40:13.609 --> 01:40:16.369
age and this is what caused all the melting of

01:40:16.369 --> 01:40:19.319
the the ice that were above North America, and

01:40:19.319 --> 01:40:21.760
that's where all this massive flooding came from,

01:40:21.800 --> 01:40:23.739
and that's where the Great Lakes come from. And

01:40:23.739 --> 01:40:26.680
he thinks that it was a civilization -ending

01:40:26.680 --> 01:40:29.640
event where very few people survived, and they

01:40:29.640 --> 01:40:32.060
essentially had to rebuild from there. And so

01:40:32.060 --> 01:40:35.920
the amazing society that built the pyramids,

01:40:35.939 --> 01:40:39.840
whoever those people were, by the time this Younger

01:40:39.840 --> 01:40:42.899
Dryas impact thing happens... Who knows what

01:40:42.899 --> 01:40:44.479
kind of civilization they had at that point.

01:40:44.560 --> 01:40:48.199
Sure. But they might have been far more advanced

01:40:48.199 --> 01:40:50.899
than us. Sure. Just in a different way. Sure.

01:40:50.960 --> 01:40:53.600
And for sure they knew how to move stone in a

01:40:53.600 --> 01:40:55.960
way we still don't understand. Right. We have

01:40:55.960 --> 01:40:58.279
no idea how the fuck they did that. No idea how

01:40:58.279 --> 01:41:02.840
they made 2 ,300 ,000 stones meet perfectly at

01:41:02.840 --> 01:41:05.579
the top and then covered in smooth limestone.

01:41:05.680 --> 01:41:08.859
It's fucking insane. And channel energy. Yeah.

01:41:08.880 --> 01:41:14.079
And vibrate. inside of the pyramid to channel

01:41:14.079 --> 01:41:16.199
fucking energy. Who knows what they were doing

01:41:16.199 --> 01:41:18.140
when they built that. It's crazy. And I didn't

01:41:18.140 --> 01:41:20.039
mean to offend anyone. No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:41:20.039 --> 01:41:22.079
I shouldn't have said it the way I said it. No,

01:41:22.100 --> 01:41:23.539
not at all. I just wanted to clarify because

01:41:23.539 --> 01:41:25.359
it's a weird thing that people keep saying. Because

01:41:25.359 --> 01:41:29.300
I just learned about this. And watching videos

01:41:29.300 --> 01:41:35.520
about it and learning about all this stuff. First

01:41:35.520 --> 01:41:38.020
off, take everything with a grain of salt, of

01:41:38.020 --> 01:41:41.260
course. But then it's like, fuck it. fucking

01:41:41.260 --> 01:41:43.920
actually crazy and now there's is there xenon

01:41:43.920 --> 01:41:48.140
on mars what is xenon the xenon there's a there's

01:41:48.140 --> 01:41:55.220
a chemical that so the soil on mars is supposedly

01:41:55.220 --> 01:42:01.960
enriched with xenon enough to like it's like

01:42:03.189 --> 01:42:05.890
I'll just throw out an arbitrary number. 1 ,000

01:42:05.890 --> 01:42:10.430
megatons of nuclear. It comes from nuclear explosions.

01:42:10.909 --> 01:42:15.090
What? That's where it comes from? They said that

01:42:15.090 --> 01:42:18.390
the soil on Mars is super packed with it. Yo,

01:42:18.470 --> 01:42:22.510
imagine if Mars was like a nuclear war. War on

01:42:22.510 --> 01:42:25.409
Mars? Imagine. They just obliterated the whole

01:42:25.409 --> 01:42:30.239
planet. How do you feel about the face? The problem

01:42:30.239 --> 01:42:33.359
with the face is it was a very low resolution

01:42:33.359 --> 01:42:35.699
camera and it was convenient. And then when they

01:42:35.699 --> 01:42:40.180
went over it a second time, it's weird in the

01:42:40.180 --> 01:42:42.579
shape of it, but it didn't look like a face anymore.

01:42:42.800 --> 01:42:45.460
So how do you feel about NASA having its own

01:42:45.460 --> 01:42:50.619
photoshopping branch? Do they? There's people

01:42:50.619 --> 01:42:53.239
at NASA that photoshop. You look at a picture

01:42:53.239 --> 01:42:55.840
of Mars, what color do you think it is? It's

01:42:55.840 --> 01:42:59.569
like a dusty tan. It's like orange. Right? Would

01:42:59.569 --> 01:43:01.670
you pull up the real pictures of Mars, what they

01:43:01.670 --> 01:43:03.470
actually look like, without the fucking filter

01:43:03.470 --> 01:43:07.850
on them? Am I crazy? I don't know. Check it out.

01:43:07.930 --> 01:43:09.970
Well, isn't it like Earth where there's different

01:43:09.970 --> 01:43:12.670
spots that have different color ground? I don't

01:43:12.670 --> 01:43:19.789
know. So you look at pictures of Mars. from like

01:43:19.789 --> 01:43:23.369
20 to 30 years ago or whatever. And then you

01:43:23.369 --> 01:43:25.550
look at pictures of Mars now, they are drastically

01:43:25.550 --> 01:43:27.829
different because people caught on to like, why

01:43:27.829 --> 01:43:32.710
are you throwing a filter on Mars? So they were

01:43:32.710 --> 01:43:34.489
changing the color of Mars? It doesn't look like

01:43:34.489 --> 01:43:38.970
that, yeah. Interesting. I'll pull up the photos

01:43:38.970 --> 01:43:42.189
I'm seeing and you direct me to what it is. Look

01:43:42.189 --> 01:43:44.210
at that one. Look at that one. Like this one?

01:43:44.350 --> 01:43:47.810
No, the first one. This one? No, third one. Sorry,

01:43:47.909 --> 01:43:51.340
sir. Oh, like on the ground. Look at the sky

01:43:51.340 --> 01:43:55.039
there, okay? Look at the sky there, look at the

01:43:55.039 --> 01:43:57.579
ground there, and then look at the second one

01:43:57.579 --> 01:44:01.300
even for in fact. There's an orange tint to everything

01:44:01.300 --> 01:44:03.920
on every picture that we've ever seen of it,

01:44:04.020 --> 01:44:07.680
but then if you look at it, look up maybe Mars

01:44:07.680 --> 01:44:10.399
without orange filter. But the lunar module doesn't

01:44:10.399 --> 01:44:12.260
look orange. Look at the lunar module. It's pure

01:44:12.260 --> 01:44:14.359
white. It's just a filter. It's not pure white.

01:44:15.539 --> 01:44:18.279
Okay. Look at that. Like, that looks just like

01:44:18.279 --> 01:44:21.039
Earth. It looks like a place on Earth. That could

01:44:21.039 --> 01:44:23.659
be a place on Earth, totally. Right. Except for

01:44:23.659 --> 01:44:26.539
the sky is a little fucked up looking. Let's

01:44:26.539 --> 01:44:34.539
do NASA Photoshop. I don't know, what do you

01:44:34.539 --> 01:44:37.079
call like a, I keep saying branch, but like it's

01:44:37.079 --> 01:44:39.880
like. Well, I do know that just one way to explain

01:44:39.880 --> 01:44:41.939
some of it is that a lot of the photos they get

01:44:41.939 --> 01:44:44.140
from the telescopes are like not actual, you

01:44:44.140 --> 01:44:45.800
know, like with these cameras, it's not just

01:44:45.800 --> 01:44:48.460
taking a photo. Sure. It's taking data that has

01:44:48.460 --> 01:44:52.439
to be compiled into a photo. Are these not from

01:44:52.439 --> 01:44:55.119
the rover though? They are. I'm talking about

01:44:55.119 --> 01:45:00.390
like landscape photos. But wouldn't it make sense

01:45:00.390 --> 01:45:02.869
that Mars looks different in different spots?

01:45:03.069 --> 01:45:04.550
And wouldn't it make sense that it looks different

01:45:04.550 --> 01:45:07.689
with different conditions? It certainly does.

01:45:07.949 --> 01:45:09.609
Well, not that. Yeah, that's what I'm talking

01:45:09.609 --> 01:45:11.130
about. A photo like that, for instance, can't

01:45:11.130 --> 01:45:14.090
be taken normally. Right, right. But like the

01:45:14.090 --> 01:45:16.470
landscape photos. It looks like a space monkey.

01:45:16.529 --> 01:45:18.869
It looks like a space monkey. Look at that. He's

01:45:18.869 --> 01:45:21.050
chill. That dude's chill as fuck. Is that a real

01:45:21.050 --> 01:45:24.729
photo, Jamie? That picture looks like a space

01:45:24.729 --> 01:45:27.270
monkey. The picture that you just had up? Look

01:45:27.270 --> 01:45:29.930
at that. He's cool. That's your new logo. It

01:45:29.930 --> 01:45:32.850
says, Photoshop NASA photos give new life to

01:45:32.850 --> 01:45:35.069
outer space imagery. Yeah, they're turning into

01:45:35.069 --> 01:45:37.390
a monkey. That's not real. That's not real. That's

01:45:37.390 --> 01:45:39.390
not real, right? So if you were one of these

01:45:39.390 --> 01:45:42.859
NASA Photoshop people, you would. manipulate

01:45:42.859 --> 01:45:44.859
the photos in a little bit of a way to make them

01:45:44.859 --> 01:45:47.159
look a little more extraordinary. Well, there's

01:45:47.159 --> 01:45:49.039
stuff that we talk about. That seems like lying.

01:45:50.060 --> 01:45:53.399
No, it's crazy. I'm trying to use the right words

01:45:53.399 --> 01:45:55.960
here because I can take a photo of you, Joe,

01:45:56.079 --> 01:45:58.840
and make it look, you know, or both of you. Could

01:45:58.840 --> 01:46:01.960
you put the handsome filter on for me at least?

01:46:02.380 --> 01:46:05.180
You can make Photoshop make it look a way it

01:46:05.180 --> 01:46:07.039
didn't really look to anybody's eyes in the room.

01:46:07.159 --> 01:46:09.140
Right. But you can just tweak some things without

01:46:09.140 --> 01:46:11.039
adding really anything. You're just tweaking.

01:46:11.789 --> 01:46:14.050
the light off the sensors and then there's but

01:46:14.050 --> 01:46:15.909
there are ways you can go way further with it

01:46:15.909 --> 01:46:20.630
all right so i was i've been i mean you can fucking

01:46:20.630 --> 01:46:23.569
trust youtube as far as you can throw it but

01:46:23.569 --> 01:46:28.949
um looking at photos of recent photos of mars

01:46:28.949 --> 01:46:31.689
and it could it could be camera it could be a

01:46:31.689 --> 01:46:34.550
camera Well, if you look at a photo from like

01:46:34.550 --> 01:46:37.590
a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 versus a photo. But it

01:46:37.590 --> 01:46:39.949
still doesn't change the color. It does a little

01:46:39.949 --> 01:46:44.729
bit. Here's one. So the first one on the left

01:46:44.729 --> 01:46:46.729
is unprocessed. Unprocessed. That's what they

01:46:46.729 --> 01:46:49.630
– okay. All right. So then they take the – okay.

01:46:49.729 --> 01:46:53.250
Oh, that's weird. I don't even know. But this

01:46:53.250 --> 01:46:55.149
is also what you do for, like, filming a movie.

01:46:55.310 --> 01:46:56.689
Right, exactly. The camera looks kind of like

01:46:56.689 --> 01:46:58.869
shit, and you have to... But is it calibrated

01:46:58.869 --> 01:46:59.789
for accuracy? But why are they trying to make

01:46:59.789 --> 01:47:02.250
it look like a movie? Well, I doubt... Because

01:47:02.250 --> 01:47:03.630
they're bullshitting us, bro. That also could

01:47:03.630 --> 01:47:05.090
be what we're used to seeing, and it just gives

01:47:05.090 --> 01:47:08.390
it better context. Mate, mate, I'm not the one

01:47:08.390 --> 01:47:10.100
doing it, so I'm just trying to, like... Think

01:47:10.100 --> 01:47:12.579
like them. And is there xenon on Mars? There

01:47:12.579 --> 01:47:16.100
is xenon, but I couldn't figure out how much.

01:47:16.180 --> 01:47:18.520
But there's definitely articles about evidence

01:47:18.520 --> 01:47:22.300
of xenon. Look, evidence for NASA. Oh, that's

01:47:22.300 --> 01:47:24.960
fucking... Isotopes. I see a lot of smart...

01:47:24.960 --> 01:47:27.460
Evidence for large nuclear reactor on Mars past.

01:47:27.819 --> 01:47:30.680
There's a lot of smart words here. I was skipping

01:47:30.680 --> 01:47:34.319
that. Bro, that's NASA. Harvard .edu. That sounds

01:47:34.319 --> 01:47:37.619
very smart. NASA sounds really smart. Yeah, I

01:47:37.619 --> 01:47:41.520
know. Evidence for... A large natural nuclear

01:47:41.520 --> 01:47:45.319
reactor in Mars' past. Why are they saying natural?

01:47:45.520 --> 01:47:47.199
They're just guessing. They don't want to say

01:47:47.199 --> 01:47:49.119
that maybe it was a civilization that nuked itself

01:47:49.119 --> 01:47:52.340
into oblivion. Maybe so. Yeah, but why else would

01:47:52.340 --> 01:47:55.399
they say natural? Compounding the mystery is

01:47:55.399 --> 01:47:57.140
the fact that Mars has a surface layer of elevated

01:47:57.140 --> 01:47:59.640
levels of uranium and thorium. I don't know what

01:47:59.640 --> 01:48:02.159
that means. Bro, they nuked the whole planet.

01:48:02.260 --> 01:48:04.159
Imagine. They were fighting over some fucking

01:48:04.159 --> 01:48:08.500
border town just like us. Imagine. Fucking postal.

01:48:08.720 --> 01:48:11.399
How crazy would that be? How do you nuke a cloud

01:48:11.399 --> 01:48:13.439
of gas, though? Because that's what aliens are.

01:48:13.619 --> 01:48:14.840
No, I don't know. You want to know something

01:48:14.840 --> 01:48:16.739
crazy? You know how much a cloud weighs? How

01:48:16.739 --> 01:48:18.659
much do you think a cloud weighs? An average

01:48:18.659 --> 01:48:21.619
cloud. What do you consider average? Just a big

01:48:21.619 --> 01:48:23.859
pluff. Just like a big fluffy one floating around.

01:48:24.060 --> 01:48:27.420
20 pounds. A million. Fuck, I was way off. A

01:48:27.420 --> 01:48:30.020
million pounds. I just found that out. I was

01:48:30.020 --> 01:48:31.979
like, that's insane. I'd rather get paid a million

01:48:31.979 --> 01:48:36.640
pounds in 20s. The density of the water that's

01:48:36.640 --> 01:48:39.800
in the clouds, if you actually could extract

01:48:39.800 --> 01:48:42.000
it and weigh it. Yeah, look at that. That's crazy.

01:48:42.810 --> 01:48:46.229
A cubic kilometer cloud contains 1 billion cubic

01:48:46.229 --> 01:48:50.729
meters, doing the math, 1 billion times 0 .5,

01:48:50.869 --> 01:48:54.189
500 million grams of water droplets in our cloud.

01:48:54.270 --> 01:48:58.289
That's about 500 ,000 kilograms or 1 .1 million

01:48:58.289 --> 01:49:03.600
pounds. Imagine it just fell. It just fell, like,

01:49:03.600 --> 01:49:06.199
hard. It became solidified and just fucking fell.

01:49:06.199 --> 01:49:08.819
A giant hailstone. That'd be fucking crazy. Bro,

01:49:08.819 --> 01:49:11.279
some hail is ridiculous. Seeing people getting

01:49:11.279 --> 01:49:14.140
pelted by, like, golf balls. Like, you ever seen

01:49:14.140 --> 01:49:15.699
that video of these people were filming from

01:49:15.699 --> 01:49:19.460
their backyard, and you see the hail hitting

01:49:19.460 --> 01:49:21.760
the pool? And it's like they're getting attacked

01:49:21.760 --> 01:49:25.319
by aliens. It's crazy. This was, they just, we

01:49:25.319 --> 01:49:29.439
just had this in Utah. A monsoon? A monsoon in

01:49:29.439 --> 01:49:33.060
Utah. Wow. It's a great song name. Yeah, it is.

01:49:33.060 --> 01:49:35.060
That's a great song name. Utah Monsoon. Yeah,

01:49:35.119 --> 01:49:38.800
that's a great song name. Monsoon in Utah. I

01:49:38.800 --> 01:49:42.859
wasn't there, but my dad said it was like the

01:49:42.859 --> 01:49:45.220
craziest storm he's ever been in. This is the

01:49:45.220 --> 01:49:47.779
monsoon? This was in Utah, but this was Tucson

01:49:47.779 --> 01:49:49.720
a couple weeks ago. But here's the storm rolling

01:49:49.720 --> 01:49:52.779
in. Arizona. Whoa, look at that thing rolling

01:49:52.779 --> 01:49:55.520
in. It just dumps here in a second. Covers the

01:49:55.520 --> 01:49:58.390
whole screen. Those are the darkest. That's like

01:49:58.390 --> 01:50:01.430
fucking Mordor clouds. Totally. That's Sauron.

01:50:02.050 --> 01:50:04.770
Look at the rain coming down. Jesus Christ, dude.

01:50:04.930 --> 01:50:08.550
Holy fuck, man. That's insane. That is insane.

01:50:09.010 --> 01:50:12.210
That's insane. If that's not fucking apocalyptic,

01:50:12.329 --> 01:50:15.369
dude, I don't know what the fuck is. That's crazy,

01:50:15.510 --> 01:50:17.810
dude. I was in Miami once. This guy doesn't seem

01:50:17.810 --> 01:50:19.609
to care, though. He doesn't mind. He's like,

01:50:19.710 --> 01:50:21.350
yeah, whatever. This shit happens all the time.

01:50:21.369 --> 01:50:24.920
He's acquiring data. I was in Miami once and

01:50:24.920 --> 01:50:26.260
we were driving down the highway and the whole

01:50:26.260 --> 01:50:29.119
highway had to stop because the rain was so hard

01:50:29.119 --> 01:50:31.079
you couldn't see in front of you. The whole highway

01:50:31.079 --> 01:50:34.439
just stopped dead. Just dumped rain on us. It

01:50:34.439 --> 01:50:36.439
lasted for like four minutes and then it went

01:50:36.439 --> 01:50:38.619
away. But for four minutes, the entire highway

01:50:38.619 --> 01:50:41.420
was stopped. You couldn't see a foot in front

01:50:41.420 --> 01:50:45.760
of your windshield. It was just, it was fucking

01:50:45.760 --> 01:50:49.340
wild. Like, this is crazy. These people are dealing

01:50:49.340 --> 01:50:52.140
with some wild shit down here. It never rains

01:50:52.140 --> 01:50:53.699
like that. And you just, how long do you hang

01:50:53.699 --> 01:50:55.500
out on the side of the road for? We were in the

01:50:55.500 --> 01:50:58.560
middle of the highway. We had to stay there.

01:50:58.659 --> 01:51:01.819
It was several minutes. Oh, you just sat in your

01:51:01.819 --> 01:51:03.819
lane? Yeah, you had to stay in your lane. Yeah,

01:51:03.840 --> 01:51:07.140
everybody on the highway stopped. Bro, you couldn't

01:51:07.140 --> 01:51:09.960
see jack shit. You couldn't see the front of

01:51:09.960 --> 01:51:13.619
your car. It was insane. That's, yeah. See, I

01:51:13.619 --> 01:51:16.140
don't, man. It just dumped and took off. And

01:51:16.140 --> 01:51:17.699
you're like, okay. And then it was like back

01:51:17.699 --> 01:51:21.159
to normal. But it gives you a little heads up,

01:51:21.180 --> 01:51:25.960
like, hey, you know, you ain't shit. You ain't

01:51:25.960 --> 01:51:29.199
shit. This fucking whole planet has some gigantic

01:51:29.199 --> 01:51:32.279
destructive forces that you could never stop.

01:51:33.260 --> 01:51:34.800
So when you're on the highway and it rolls through,

01:51:34.960 --> 01:51:37.039
just be lucky you don't have a fucking convertible.

01:51:37.359 --> 01:51:40.479
Shut your mouth and just sit there and deal.

01:51:41.199 --> 01:51:43.779
Put that top on quick. You never put that top

01:51:43.779 --> 01:51:45.619
on in your fucking car. You'd be filled with

01:51:45.619 --> 01:51:50.199
water. You'd be in a fishbowl. Hail, dude. Moving

01:51:50.199 --> 01:51:54.659
to Texas, we had a lot of hail. And it would

01:51:54.659 --> 01:51:58.140
just fucking come and fucking... We had to go

01:51:58.140 --> 01:52:01.079
put a... There was a baler, and so we would go

01:52:01.079 --> 01:52:03.970
use their parking garage. whenever it would hail.

01:52:04.970 --> 01:52:07.189
So your window's going to get smashed in. Yeah,

01:52:07.189 --> 01:52:10.409
because it's crazy. Yeah, it'll fuck your car

01:52:10.409 --> 01:52:12.930
up. It's crazy. See if you can find the video,

01:52:13.069 --> 01:52:16.810
Jamie, of hailstorm in swimming pool. It's bananas.

01:52:17.069 --> 01:52:19.010
It's like they're getting attacked. It's like

01:52:19.010 --> 01:52:21.550
missiles are coming in into their swimming pool.

01:52:21.670 --> 01:52:23.050
It's fucking bananas. Where is that? I don't

01:52:23.050 --> 01:52:25.149
remember. I want to say it was Ohio. Jamie, while

01:52:25.149 --> 01:52:27.930
you pull that up, can I 10 -1? Texas. Can I 10

01:52:27.930 --> 01:52:30.470
-1? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, guys. Go ahead.

01:52:30.590 --> 01:52:32.800
Look at this, though. At least a fucking hail.

01:52:34.500 --> 01:52:37.840
Oh, my God. Yeah. That poor cow. That poor cow.

01:52:38.260 --> 01:52:42.399
That cow's getting lit up. That swimming pool

01:52:42.399 --> 01:52:45.640
is getting rocked. That's insane. We'll pause

01:52:45.640 --> 01:52:47.899
you real quick. I'll tinkle, too. We'll be right

01:52:47.899 --> 01:52:54.899
back, folks. And we're back. So you say you got

01:52:54.899 --> 01:52:57.199
into archery, or you tried it. I tried it. You

01:52:57.199 --> 01:52:59.680
tried it? I tried it, yes, sir. Where'd you go?

01:53:00.939 --> 01:53:04.880
I was in France. So I was in France working on

01:53:04.880 --> 01:53:08.739
the wine and we were at the vineyard and we were

01:53:08.739 --> 01:53:11.659
like, let's shoot some, shoot some bows. So we

01:53:11.659 --> 01:53:15.899
had some French archers come out and they had

01:53:15.899 --> 01:53:20.159
like, they had a compound and they had like just

01:53:20.159 --> 01:53:22.779
another like recurve, like traditional, like,

01:53:22.779 --> 01:53:27.460
yeah. And Joe Rogan, that is hard to do. It's

01:53:27.460 --> 01:53:30.060
not easy to do. It is not easy to do at all.

01:53:30.239 --> 01:53:32.460
And they want you to go forward. Do you go forward

01:53:32.460 --> 01:53:35.039
when you shoot? No. They told you to go forward?

01:53:35.220 --> 01:53:40.220
Yeah. Maybe it was with like an old oak bow.

01:53:40.399 --> 01:53:44.260
Oh, okay. A long bow? Yeah. So they like told

01:53:44.260 --> 01:53:46.359
you to go forward whenever to help your aim.

01:53:46.739 --> 01:53:49.220
Interesting. Which seems counterintuitive because

01:53:49.220 --> 01:53:50.779
you don't want to really move when you're...

01:53:50.960 --> 01:53:55.060
Well, the whole thing about those old bows, whether

01:53:55.060 --> 01:53:58.760
it's a recurve or a long bow, is that it's much

01:53:58.760 --> 01:54:03.119
more of a feel thing. You have to practice with

01:54:03.119 --> 01:54:05.899
them a lot, almost like throwing a rock. If you

01:54:05.899 --> 01:54:08.920
throw a rock, or a baseball is a better example.

01:54:09.100 --> 01:54:11.359
When you throw a baseball, you know how much

01:54:11.359 --> 01:54:16.119
energy you have to put into that throw in order

01:54:16.119 --> 01:54:18.260
to get into that strike zone. If you're throwing

01:54:18.260 --> 01:54:21.060
a pitch, right? So that's like a knowledge of

01:54:21.060 --> 01:54:24.220
how much force and how you can aim. This is the

01:54:24.220 --> 01:54:26.460
same thing applies to arrows. You shoot enough

01:54:26.460 --> 01:54:29.539
arrows, you know like where you have to hold.

01:54:29.600 --> 01:54:31.960
Thank you, sir. At what distance when you're

01:54:31.960 --> 01:54:34.119
releasing an arrow because you know the arc of

01:54:34.119 --> 01:54:37.600
the arrow. It's feel. It's feel. It's feel. Compound

01:54:37.600 --> 01:54:39.659
archery, what I do is very different. It's much

01:54:39.659 --> 01:54:43.119
more calculated. I have a range finder. It's

01:54:43.119 --> 01:54:47.680
telling me 52 yards. I dial it on my sight. My

01:54:47.680 --> 01:54:50.479
pin moves up and down. And then I'm holding.

01:54:50.479 --> 01:54:53.720
So do you have Picatinny on your bow? Oh, Picatinny

01:54:53.720 --> 01:54:56.479
rail in the front? Yes, I do. Cool. Yeah. So

01:54:56.479 --> 01:54:59.159
you put like an aim point. Well, this is where

01:54:59.159 --> 01:55:02.539
the sight comes out of. The sight is slightly

01:55:02.539 --> 01:55:04.159
to the left. What optic are you using? Well,

01:55:04.180 --> 01:55:08.600
I don't use an optic. Okay. It's just a clear

01:55:08.600 --> 01:55:12.060
hole, like a tube, with a fiber optic pin in

01:55:12.060 --> 01:55:15.359
it. Okay. And that fiber optic pin is the indicator

01:55:15.359 --> 01:55:17.380
that tells you what yardage, like if it's up

01:55:17.380 --> 01:55:19.460
or down, right? So if it's up, that means it's

01:55:19.460 --> 01:55:21.979
a close shot. If it's down, very low, that means

01:55:21.979 --> 01:55:24.039
it's a long shot. So it's the arc of the arrow

01:55:24.039 --> 01:55:26.600
over a course of time, and it's all calculated

01:55:26.600 --> 01:55:28.720
on this thing. called archer's advantage which

01:55:28.720 --> 01:55:30.939
is a computer program okay so you put in the

01:55:30.939 --> 01:55:33.279
speed of the bow the weight of the arrow all

01:55:33.279 --> 01:55:34.840
these different factors and you put it in and

01:55:34.840 --> 01:55:37.819
it'll give you a sight tape nerd and yeah and

01:55:37.819 --> 01:55:40.859
then you take this sight tape and like you you

01:55:40.859 --> 01:55:43.039
dial it into 20 yards once you know where 20

01:55:43.039 --> 01:55:45.000
yards is you got that indicator mark you mark

01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:47.340
it off and then you put the tape down and then

01:55:47.340 --> 01:55:49.479
once you put that tape down you're good to go

01:55:49.479 --> 01:55:52.180
to like 100 yards 110 yards wherever you want

01:55:52.180 --> 01:55:54.359
you just do your hold there exactly just hold

01:55:54.359 --> 01:55:57.069
where that pin is it's much easier of shooting

01:55:57.069 --> 01:56:00.369
a bow than traditional. But do you have a laser

01:56:00.369 --> 01:56:03.460
rangefinder? Yes. Who makes a range finder? Oh,

01:56:03.520 --> 01:56:06.199
a shit ton of companies. Is it the same as like

01:56:06.199 --> 01:56:10.060
a firearm range finder? Yes, very similar. A

01:56:10.060 --> 01:56:12.220
lot of the same companies like, you know, Vortex,

01:56:12.500 --> 01:56:15.140
they make a great range finder. I use a Leupold

01:56:15.140 --> 01:56:18.239
Full Draw 5 because it actually tells you, you

01:56:18.239 --> 01:56:20.880
put in the arrow speed and all these different

01:56:20.880 --> 01:56:23.340
factors, and it actually shows you the arc of

01:56:23.340 --> 01:56:26.000
the arrow in the range finder. So like if I'm

01:56:26.000 --> 01:56:28.500
trying to shoot an elk through a pocket in the

01:56:28.500 --> 01:56:31.340
trees, it's like this big, and I'm 35 yards away.

01:56:31.340 --> 01:56:33.260
I have to know that my arrow is not going to

01:56:33.260 --> 01:56:35.680
hit the upper branches. Sure. Because at the

01:56:35.680 --> 01:56:37.800
height of the arrow, it's higher than when it's

01:56:37.800 --> 01:56:39.619
going to drop down. So you're putting the pin

01:56:39.619 --> 01:56:41.659
where it wants to drop down. But it might be

01:56:41.659 --> 01:56:44.640
like way up here when it's at 5 yards, 10 yards,

01:56:44.739 --> 01:56:47.180
15 yards. And then it's going to drop down into

01:56:47.180 --> 01:56:49.859
that spot exactly where you want it to go. So

01:56:49.859 --> 01:56:52.739
this range finder. How big is what? The range

01:56:52.739 --> 01:56:55.460
finder. It's little. It's like a phone, phone

01:56:55.460 --> 01:56:58.350
size. So that's it right there. So I have a,

01:56:58.409 --> 01:57:00.289
like I said, I have a full, it's called a loophole

01:57:00.289 --> 01:57:03.069
full draw five, but I have a vortex one. It's

01:57:03.069 --> 01:57:05.329
great too. It just doesn't have that thing where

01:57:05.329 --> 01:57:07.189
you can, the reason why I use the full draw five

01:57:07.189 --> 01:57:09.609
is that line is gigantic. If you're shooting

01:57:09.609 --> 01:57:12.409
through obstacles and through branches, because

01:57:12.409 --> 01:57:14.810
a lot of times an elk will be in an opening,

01:57:14.909 --> 01:57:17.770
like there's two trees and the other like five

01:57:17.770 --> 01:57:20.069
feet wide, but there's like this one branch that's

01:57:20.069 --> 01:57:22.750
above him and you have, that's it. See, so that

01:57:22.750 --> 01:57:25.569
line right there, it shows you the height of

01:57:25.569 --> 01:57:29.029
the arrow. So like right there, In my mind, I

01:57:29.029 --> 01:57:31.029
would think that could hit that branch. And is

01:57:31.029 --> 01:57:32.850
that your hold there? Are you aiming for that

01:57:32.850 --> 01:57:35.029
spot? No, no, no. The hold is where the crosshair

01:57:35.029 --> 01:57:37.029
is. Okay, okay. And what that's indicative, that

01:57:37.029 --> 01:57:39.430
line at the top, is indicative of the very height

01:57:39.430 --> 01:57:41.210
of your arrow when it's at its highest point.

01:57:41.689 --> 01:57:45.609
So that was a long shot. That's 78 yards. It's

01:57:45.609 --> 01:57:48.090
a little unethical. A little unethical. It's

01:57:48.090 --> 01:57:51.270
a long poke for a deer. But real elite archers

01:57:51.270 --> 01:57:53.529
can do it. If you're like Cam Haynes, that's

01:57:53.529 --> 01:57:56.130
a shot that he can take. Unethical because you

01:57:56.130 --> 01:57:58.479
might... Hit him in the knee or something. Yeah,

01:57:58.479 --> 01:58:00.460
I might fuck that shot up. Yeah. I wouldn't take

01:58:00.460 --> 01:58:03.020
that shot. But I would on a big animal, like

01:58:03.020 --> 01:58:05.340
a buffalo or something like that. You have, you

01:58:05.340 --> 01:58:08.979
know, the vitals are this big. Have you ever

01:58:08.979 --> 01:58:13.420
shot or what do you call it? Shooting? Archery?

01:58:13.920 --> 01:58:16.020
Like what do you say when it's shooting? Have

01:58:16.020 --> 01:58:19.239
you ever shot under like? night vision and nods

01:58:19.239 --> 01:58:22.239
and stuff? No, that would be wild. Do you have

01:58:22.239 --> 01:58:25.520
a pair? I do. You'd have a hard time seeing,

01:58:26.000 --> 01:58:28.420
like, you wouldn't hold, see, like, the thing

01:58:28.420 --> 01:58:30.619
about archery is... And it's one of the beautiful

01:58:30.619 --> 01:58:33.439
things about it is, like, everything's repeatable.

01:58:33.779 --> 01:58:36.079
Like, you have to have perfect form. So, like,

01:58:36.100 --> 01:58:40.000
when I come to full draw, my string touches the

01:58:40.000 --> 01:58:43.380
tip of my nose. This is in the corner of the

01:58:43.380 --> 01:58:45.979
D loop is in the corner of my mouth. Does it

01:58:45.979 --> 01:58:49.180
ever fuck you up? My knuckle is exactly where

01:58:49.180 --> 01:58:52.140
my jaw lines up. That's where my knuckle sits.

01:58:52.319 --> 01:58:55.260
It's a repeatable point. Sure. If I have nods

01:58:55.260 --> 01:58:58.550
on, it's... It's not going to work. You can't

01:58:58.550 --> 01:58:59.930
even do it with glasses. I don't even like it

01:58:59.930 --> 01:59:02.090
with glasses on. It feels weird. It's like...

01:59:03.119 --> 01:59:05.460
I have to be lined up with that string. And when

01:59:05.460 --> 01:59:07.699
I'm lined up with that string, all I don't think

01:59:07.699 --> 01:59:11.319
about a fucking thing in the world. All I think

01:59:11.319 --> 01:59:13.560
about is releasing a perfect arrow. That's all

01:59:13.560 --> 01:59:15.300
I'm thinking about. I'm not thinking about taxes.

01:59:15.680 --> 01:59:19.079
I need gas. I got to fucking get my car. I got

01:59:19.079 --> 01:59:21.140
to buy more arrows. I'm not thinking about any

01:59:21.140 --> 01:59:22.819
of those things. All I'm thinking of is that

01:59:22.819 --> 01:59:25.000
spot that I'm aiming at. And I think there's

01:59:25.000 --> 01:59:28.180
a mind cleansing thing that comes from that.

01:59:28.279 --> 01:59:30.560
And the release of it. It's got to feel like

01:59:30.560 --> 01:59:34.399
so fucking good. i tried the hardest part for

01:59:34.399 --> 01:59:38.640
me was getting that bow back and holding it yes

01:59:38.640 --> 01:59:43.279
holding that string yeah like that was the heart

01:59:43.279 --> 01:59:46.100
it takes a lot of shoulder it takes a lot of

01:59:46.100 --> 01:59:49.319
arm my body's imbalanced the right side of my

01:59:49.319 --> 01:59:52.420
body is thicker like all the way down my lats

01:59:52.420 --> 01:59:54.760
my upper delts everything is much thicker on

01:59:54.760 --> 01:59:57.779
this side because i pull a bow back Fucking hundred

01:59:57.779 --> 02:00:00.319
times a day. Yeah every day. It's like these

02:00:00.319 --> 02:00:02.359
muscle. I really have to balance it out. I feel

02:00:02.359 --> 02:00:05.460
it sometimes I have the same thing but from jacking

02:00:05.460 --> 02:00:10.260
off Just which hands yeah, well a stranger the

02:00:10.260 --> 02:00:14.039
old stranger. It's hard man I have after that

02:00:14.039 --> 02:00:16.819
experience. I was like you know what and plus

02:00:16.819 --> 02:00:20.520
it the first couple times shooting were you scared?

02:00:21.289 --> 02:00:23.470
of shooting a bow yeah it feels because that

02:00:23.470 --> 02:00:26.170
is so snappy and when i was a kid i had like

02:00:26.170 --> 02:00:29.210
a little fake bow and that's why i get the wrist

02:00:29.210 --> 02:00:33.270
guard yes because that shit comes and it It blew

02:00:33.270 --> 02:00:36.270
my arm up. It blew my arm up. We should see what

02:00:36.270 --> 02:00:38.930
compound bows do. Compound bows. So if you're

02:00:38.930 --> 02:00:41.989
pulling back like an 80 -pound bow and you have

02:00:41.989 --> 02:00:44.470
all this force on those cams, when that string

02:00:44.470 --> 02:00:47.130
comes and fucking slices against your forearm,

02:00:47.270 --> 02:00:49.729
people get some gnarly fucking bruises there.

02:00:49.850 --> 02:00:52.090
It looks nasty. Yeah, mine broke skin. It was

02:00:52.090 --> 02:00:54.630
like bleed. It was like, dude, it was, it's.

02:00:54.949 --> 02:00:57.329
Yeah, you got to learn proper form. Proper form,

02:00:57.350 --> 02:00:59.489
proper stance. That never happens to me. Couldn't

02:00:59.489 --> 02:01:01.979
think of a better teacher. You got to get a real

02:01:01.979 --> 02:01:05.819
archery coach. He just turned me away. Joe Rogan

02:01:05.819 --> 02:01:08.159
turned me away for archery lessons. I would 100

02:01:08.159 --> 02:01:11.319
% give you archery lessons. I have a range right

02:01:11.319 --> 02:01:14.079
here. Oh, go shoot after. I have a fucking 40

02:01:14.079 --> 02:01:16.220
-yard range. That's amazing. Right here. Who

02:01:16.220 --> 02:01:19.619
makes the best bow? They're all really good at

02:01:19.619 --> 02:01:22.220
the highest level. I shoot with a Hoyt, but there's

02:01:22.220 --> 02:01:24.880
a company called PSE. They make a great bow.

02:01:25.000 --> 02:01:26.619
There's a company called Matthews. They make

02:01:26.619 --> 02:01:28.760
a great bow. Bear makes a great bow. If you're

02:01:28.760 --> 02:01:31.300
going to survive in the archery world, the archery

02:01:31.300 --> 02:01:34.260
world is very unique in that there's yearly innovation.

02:01:34.739 --> 02:01:38.020
So Hoyt puts out new bows every year. It's like

02:01:38.020 --> 02:01:40.939
an iPhone. Engineers that are constantly tweaking

02:01:40.939 --> 02:01:44.739
things. Pro staff guys like Cam Haynes is a professional

02:01:44.739 --> 02:01:47.039
archer. Those guys, they all work. Sweet man,

02:01:47.119 --> 02:01:49.199
too. He's the best. He's the nicest guy on earth,

02:01:49.260 --> 02:01:52.399
right? But those guys give them feedback and

02:01:52.399 --> 02:01:54.779
talk about this is what I like. This is what

02:01:54.779 --> 02:01:56.680
I want. Can you change this? Can you change that?

02:01:56.939 --> 02:01:58.920
And then every year they get a little better.

02:01:59.020 --> 02:02:01.699
Every fucking year they get like incrementally

02:02:01.699 --> 02:02:04.180
better. Do you run like a weight on yours? Yeah.

02:02:04.180 --> 02:02:06.520
Is that what those long things are? Stabilizers.

02:02:06.520 --> 02:02:08.659
Are the stabilizers on there? When you have a

02:02:08.659 --> 02:02:12.189
weight out front. It keeps balance a little bit

02:02:12.189 --> 02:02:14.510
better. And this is hard too. Not to fucking

02:02:14.510 --> 02:02:18.069
mention pulling the string. I mean. Keeping your

02:02:18.069 --> 02:02:20.189
arms straight. It's heavy. Yeah. It's not light.

02:02:20.560 --> 02:02:24.239
No, you have to develop a certain amount of rigidity

02:02:24.239 --> 02:02:28.140
in your form. Form is important. Yeah, that comes

02:02:28.140 --> 02:02:30.159
from practice. You just have to practice a lot.

02:02:30.619 --> 02:02:32.619
Archery is one of those things where you really,

02:02:32.739 --> 02:02:34.859
like my friend John Dudley, who's one of the

02:02:34.859 --> 02:02:37.939
best archery coaches alive, he practices hours

02:02:37.939 --> 02:02:40.859
every day. He puts it up on his Instagram, puts

02:02:40.859 --> 02:02:43.359
his little lessons up on his YouTube. He's shooting

02:02:43.359 --> 02:02:46.020
arrows out in his yard. He has a giant range.

02:02:46.159 --> 02:02:48.600
It goes out to like 150 yards or something. And

02:02:48.600 --> 02:02:51.649
he's shooting out there. Every day. Hours and

02:02:51.649 --> 02:02:54.510
hours and hours a day. That's why he's so good.

02:02:54.630 --> 02:02:57.430
There's no shortcuts to figuring out how to be

02:02:57.430 --> 02:02:59.850
good at that. It just takes constant repetitive

02:02:59.850 --> 02:03:03.449
practice over and over again of focus and technique.

02:03:03.810 --> 02:03:05.510
So what do you think of those guys that can shoot

02:03:05.510 --> 02:03:08.489
like three arrows? It's pretty wild. It's cool.

02:03:08.789 --> 02:03:11.390
It is fucking super cool. It's cool. Look, there's

02:03:11.390 --> 02:03:14.770
a guy that does like... Yeah, he's so sick. I

02:03:14.770 --> 02:03:18.779
think he's revitalized that whole idea. Because

02:03:18.779 --> 02:03:20.939
I think for a long time they thought that people

02:03:20.939 --> 02:03:23.359
carried arrows in their quiver and they pulled

02:03:23.359 --> 02:03:25.800
one out. And he's like, no, there's a lot of

02:03:25.800 --> 02:03:29.100
ancient depictions. The treatises. In ancient

02:03:29.100 --> 02:03:31.960
times of guys holding three or four arrows in

02:03:31.960 --> 02:03:33.539
their hand. And he thinks that's what they did.

02:03:33.899 --> 02:03:36.939
I mean, that's what's so interesting. You look

02:03:36.939 --> 02:03:44.380
at Hema. European martial arts or whatever. And

02:03:44.380 --> 02:03:46.960
they like get in the armor with the training

02:03:46.960 --> 02:03:49.779
swords and shit. And they're like, all they can

02:03:49.779 --> 02:03:54.060
do is interpret these treatises that they had

02:03:54.060 --> 02:03:56.840
and the shit that they wrote down, like all the

02:03:56.840 --> 02:03:59.140
different guards and like the way that they would

02:03:59.140 --> 02:04:02.399
actually fight. Right. Like, cause there's no

02:04:02.399 --> 02:04:05.819
video. There's no real tutorial on how to do

02:04:05.819 --> 02:04:08.800
it. Right. You have to interpret this stuff.

02:04:09.239 --> 02:04:11.300
Good luck finding a dude who's won a sword fight.

02:04:11.340 --> 02:04:15.699
Yeah, exactly. It's crazy. I've never met a dude

02:04:15.699 --> 02:04:18.840
who's won a sword fight before. Oh, fuck. You

02:04:18.840 --> 02:04:20.899
know, with what's going on now with slap fighting,

02:04:21.039 --> 02:04:23.579
that's next. Oh, that's next. They'll do it in

02:04:23.579 --> 02:04:25.920
a dungeon in Germany somewhere. The aliens are

02:04:25.920 --> 02:04:28.140
going to come back and look at YouTube videos

02:04:28.140 --> 02:04:30.319
like, how did they? And then take it. That'll

02:04:30.319 --> 02:04:33.710
be their NFL. I would not be surprised. There's

02:04:33.710 --> 02:04:36.010
a lot of, like, crazy underground fights that

02:04:36.010 --> 02:04:37.750
are happening now, which is really interesting.

02:04:37.850 --> 02:04:39.789
Really? They have these no -rules fights on concrete

02:04:39.789 --> 02:04:42.149
where people are fighting with sneakers on. Yeah.

02:04:42.470 --> 02:04:44.670
On which platform? Well, they're just doing it

02:04:44.670 --> 02:04:47.170
online. And it's, like, it's gaming. Because

02:04:47.170 --> 02:04:49.189
I remember, like, WorldStar fights and shit like

02:04:49.189 --> 02:04:51.329
that. Like Kimbo Slice. These are, like, people

02:04:51.329 --> 02:04:54.069
fight for money. Yeah, Kimbo Slice. Like a Kimbo

02:04:54.069 --> 02:04:56.500
Slice thing, but with no rules. But they're doing

02:04:56.500 --> 02:04:58.319
wild shit. Like you get paid extra if you could

02:04:58.319 --> 02:05:01.079
bite a piece of the person off. That's crazy.

02:05:01.159 --> 02:05:03.619
You can eye gouge. What website is this on? It's

02:05:03.619 --> 02:05:06.000
just online. These guys have won like multiple

02:05:06.000 --> 02:05:08.159
fights in a row by eye gouging. So they get on

02:05:08.159 --> 02:05:09.840
top of guys and gouge their fucking eyeballs.

02:05:10.399 --> 02:05:13.979
That's insane. Yeah. Yeah. That's insane. That's

02:05:13.979 --> 02:05:16.060
like 4chan shit. There's no rules. You can bite

02:05:16.060 --> 02:05:18.159
people. You can do whatever the fuck you want.

02:05:18.199 --> 02:05:21.560
It's kind of crazy. That's crazy. Yeah, really

02:05:21.560 --> 02:05:24.680
crazy. And you get paid extra for eyes. Brutal

02:05:24.680 --> 02:05:28.060
Fight Club allies eye gouging with biting bonus

02:05:28.060 --> 02:05:33.119
and extra for eating the chunk. Yeah. Million

02:05:33.119 --> 02:05:35.800
subscribers. Where are these guys? It looks like

02:05:35.800 --> 02:05:37.680
a hockey rink or something. Yeah, they're fighting.

02:05:37.779 --> 02:05:41.979
That looks exactly like a hockey rink. And they're

02:05:41.979 --> 02:05:44.079
fighting on ice? I don't think they're fighting

02:05:44.079 --> 02:05:46.579
on ice, but I wouldn't be surprised. That's the

02:05:46.579 --> 02:05:50.439
ice multiplier. Well, also, would you be allowed

02:05:50.439 --> 02:05:52.960
to have spiked shoes? That would come into play.

02:05:53.359 --> 02:05:55.960
That's crazy. Maybe you get paid less for the

02:05:55.960 --> 02:05:58.720
spiked shoes. It gives you too much of an advantage.

02:05:59.840 --> 02:06:02.359
Or maybe everybody wears them. Maybe it's just

02:06:02.359 --> 02:06:05.939
the thing you wear. That's crazy. Yeah, ice fights

02:06:05.939 --> 02:06:08.500
with spike shoes. If someone goes down, they

02:06:08.500 --> 02:06:12.100
get stomped with spike shoes. You remember. They

02:06:12.100 --> 02:06:13.619
changed the rules about eye gouging, apparently.

02:06:13.899 --> 02:06:16.640
Okay, thank God. One guy will do it, but if you

02:06:16.640 --> 02:06:19.119
win, you don't get any prize money. Oh, God.

02:06:19.460 --> 02:06:22.560
Wait, eye gouging is a... This don't include

02:06:22.560 --> 02:06:25.039
biting, it says. Is an occurrence of victory

02:06:25.039 --> 02:06:27.640
that if you win by eye gouge... But look, they

02:06:27.640 --> 02:06:29.539
still allow biting. This don't include biting.

02:06:29.979 --> 02:06:32.420
Even the way they wrote it, this don't include

02:06:32.420 --> 02:06:34.840
biting. Eye gouging is still permitted, but you

02:06:34.840 --> 02:06:37.560
don't get paid. Bro. And I'll have you know,

02:06:37.699 --> 02:06:40.399
this don't include biting, guys, by the way.

02:06:40.479 --> 02:06:43.180
Guys, biting is still cool. What the fuck, man?

02:06:43.239 --> 02:06:45.600
Biting. That's fucking crazy. That's fucking

02:06:45.600 --> 02:06:51.199
crazy. So was UFC 1 and 2, when did the gloves

02:06:51.199 --> 02:06:54.020
come in? Well, some guys started wearing gloves

02:06:54.020 --> 02:06:57.359
on their own, like Vitor Belfort at UFC 12. What

02:06:57.359 --> 02:06:59.420
a beast. Yeah. That was the first fight that

02:06:59.420 --> 02:07:02.140
I ever worked. Vitor was one of the first guys

02:07:02.140 --> 02:07:03.960
to show up with gloves on. He might have been

02:07:03.960 --> 02:07:06.319
the first. No, no, Tank Abbott was the first.

02:07:06.500 --> 02:07:08.539
I think Tank Abbott was the first guy to wear

02:07:08.539 --> 02:07:10.539
gloves because he realized that those little

02:07:10.539 --> 02:07:13.100
tiny gloves are only protecting his hands. They're

02:07:13.100 --> 02:07:14.239
not really protecting, especially when you hit

02:07:14.239 --> 02:07:16.829
as hard as Tank Abbott. And Tank Abbott just

02:07:16.829 --> 02:07:18.409
went out and flatlined people with those gloves

02:07:18.409 --> 02:07:20.350
on. Because you can really crack someone. If

02:07:20.350 --> 02:07:22.829
you have your hands taped up nice, and you have

02:07:22.829 --> 02:07:24.930
your wrists taped up nice, and you have padding

02:07:24.930 --> 02:07:28.029
over your knuckles, you can really fucking crack

02:07:28.029 --> 02:07:30.489
someone. Yeah. But it's hard to do that with

02:07:30.489 --> 02:07:34.489
just your hands. Well, even doing, I never, I

02:07:34.489 --> 02:07:35.970
thought the tape was to look cool. Yeah, here's

02:07:35.970 --> 02:07:38.949
Tank. Which one? UFC 6. So he's definitely the

02:07:38.949 --> 02:07:41.039
first. Yeah, Tank was fucking terrible. That

02:07:41.039 --> 02:07:43.300
dude's got a shirt on. Bro, yeah, you could do

02:07:43.300 --> 02:07:44.500
whatever you want. He had shoes on. They had

02:07:44.500 --> 02:07:46.800
shoes. Tank was fucking, this was one of the

02:07:46.800 --> 02:07:49.180
craziest knockouts ever. Because look how he

02:07:49.180 --> 02:07:52.779
stiffens up. That's crazy. And then Tank mocks

02:07:52.779 --> 02:07:57.380
him. That's crazy, dude. Yeah, dude, Tank was

02:07:57.380 --> 02:07:59.180
a beast. He had no mouth guard in or anything.

02:07:59.420 --> 02:08:01.000
Well, he might have. He might have gotten knocked

02:08:01.000 --> 02:08:04.279
out, but either way. That's crazy. And I never

02:08:04.279 --> 02:08:06.520
realized, I thought the tape was just to look

02:08:06.520 --> 02:08:09.260
cool. Tape? Yeah. On your hands? Yeah. On your

02:08:09.260 --> 02:08:11.300
wrists? Yeah. Oh, it's to protect your hand,

02:08:11.439 --> 02:08:16.680
100%. Because I did a fight scene for an up -and

02:08:16.680 --> 02:08:21.279
-coming film, and I just was, my hands, and even

02:08:21.279 --> 02:08:23.779
pretending to hit, I had to fight a guy who was,

02:08:23.800 --> 02:08:27.359
like, massive, like, big -ass buff dude, like,

02:08:27.439 --> 02:08:31.199
300 pounds or just pure fucking, and, like, hitting

02:08:31.199 --> 02:08:34.140
him, he was like, all right, give it to me. Yeah,

02:08:34.159 --> 02:08:36.380
and so I wouldn't punch him full force, but I

02:08:36.380 --> 02:08:39.489
would hit him, like, 20 % and even then I was

02:08:39.489 --> 02:08:42.770
like oh my fucking god my wrist is like fucked

02:08:42.770 --> 02:08:45.470
and I'm not a fighter by any means but we put

02:08:45.470 --> 02:08:48.369
the tape on and it just it was so much more like

02:08:48.369 --> 02:08:50.689
stable yeah yeah yeah that's the whole reason

02:08:50.689 --> 02:08:52.829
for it I just thought it looked cool it does

02:08:52.829 --> 02:08:54.750
look cool it does look cool it definitely looks

02:08:54.750 --> 02:08:57.750
cool yeah no it's 100 % to protect your hand

02:08:57.750 --> 02:09:00.109
and your wrist wrists get wrists are very fragile

02:09:00.109 --> 02:09:02.670
Canelo Alvarez just fucked his wrist up he had

02:09:02.670 --> 02:09:05.609
to get surgery on his wrist he's a beast he's

02:09:05.609 --> 02:09:11.800
a beast he's a This is a beast. I'm talking more

02:09:11.800 --> 02:09:16.859
about Jake. I want to see a UFC fight. You want

02:09:16.859 --> 02:09:18.460
to see a UFC fight with Jake? Yeah. Well, he's

02:09:18.460 --> 02:09:20.739
not going to fight for the UFC. He's got a contract.

02:09:21.039 --> 02:09:23.079
MMA fight. He'll do an MMA. He's got a contract

02:09:23.079 --> 02:09:25.539
with the PFL, which is another organization.

02:09:26.119 --> 02:09:27.539
They're throwing a lot of money around. They

02:09:27.539 --> 02:09:30.720
just signed Francis Ngannou, and Jake has a contract

02:09:30.720 --> 02:09:32.579
with them. So if he has an MMA fight, I think

02:09:32.579 --> 02:09:36.250
it has to be over there. Where's that? At PFL.

02:09:36.409 --> 02:09:39.789
PFL? Yeah. I haven't watched the PFL. It's good.

02:09:39.890 --> 02:09:42.149
Good fights. Good fighters. They got a lot of

02:09:42.149 --> 02:09:44.529
elite guys. It's like, you know, a B -level organization

02:09:44.529 --> 02:09:47.069
in terms of, there's only really one A -level

02:09:47.069 --> 02:09:49.270
organization in America. Right. You know, that's

02:09:49.270 --> 02:09:51.510
the UFC. Right. The other ones are just slightly

02:09:51.510 --> 02:09:54.289
below, but there's elite guys in all of those.

02:09:54.430 --> 02:09:56.609
There's elite guys in Bellator that could compete

02:09:56.609 --> 02:09:58.810
in the UFC. Right. There's elite guys in the

02:09:58.810 --> 02:10:01.630
PFL. And what is that, just contracting? It's

02:10:01.630 --> 02:10:04.699
like your contract and shit like that. Yeah,

02:10:04.800 --> 02:10:06.279
like that's what happened with Francis Ngannou

02:10:06.279 --> 02:10:07.640
because he was the UFC heavyweight champion.

02:10:07.720 --> 02:10:09.380
He didn't lose his title. He relinquished his

02:10:09.380 --> 02:10:12.340
title due to contract negotiations and decided

02:10:12.340 --> 02:10:15.159
he was going to leave. And so he vacated the

02:10:15.159 --> 02:10:16.880
title and they gave him a big chunk of money

02:10:16.880 --> 02:10:19.979
to go to the PFL. Right. I got to watch a PFL

02:10:19.979 --> 02:10:22.119
fight. Yeah, this is good fights. It's got a

02:10:22.119 --> 02:10:24.739
wacky point system that you're not going to understand

02:10:24.739 --> 02:10:26.319
because I don't understand it. I don't understand

02:10:26.319 --> 02:10:31.659
any points in UFC or boxing. Oh, like when they,

02:10:31.699 --> 02:10:33.399
like it's like a 10 -9 round, like that kind

02:10:33.399 --> 02:10:36.380
of thing? Because I'm like, well, you watch,

02:10:36.600 --> 02:10:39.539
and I know, albeit I know nothing about fighting,

02:10:39.779 --> 02:10:42.880
but I'm like, that dude definitely won that round.

02:10:42.920 --> 02:10:49.600
But it always seems to be so close, kind of,

02:10:49.600 --> 02:10:53.800
but it's always like unanimous decision is whenever

02:10:53.800 --> 02:10:56.840
the judges all agree. Yeah. It's all the same.

02:10:57.239 --> 02:11:01.300
Right. But I don't. I don't quite understand

02:11:01.300 --> 02:11:03.380
the whole deal. I don't understand. So what are

02:11:03.380 --> 02:11:06.020
they going off of? Knockdowns is a big one. Knockdowns

02:11:06.020 --> 02:11:08.680
is a big one. Punches landed is a big one. So

02:11:08.680 --> 02:11:11.079
what is the ratio? So here, let's take a look

02:11:11.079 --> 02:11:13.380
at that. What is the ratio between punches thrown

02:11:13.380 --> 02:11:16.640
and punches landed? How does that affect points?

02:11:17.020 --> 02:11:19.760
Well, it doesn't. If you still land a lot and

02:11:19.760 --> 02:11:22.039
you miss a lot. So if you're a highly active

02:11:22.039 --> 02:11:24.159
fighter that throws like 150 punches a round

02:11:24.159 --> 02:11:27.539
and you land 50 and your opponent only lands

02:11:27.539 --> 02:11:29.800
10 but they only threw 30, you still won that

02:11:29.800 --> 02:11:31.720
round. Right. You just let a lot more volume,

02:11:31.899 --> 02:11:34.819
a lot more. But even though you're missing, what

02:11:34.819 --> 02:11:38.199
counts is how many you land. You don't get penalized

02:11:38.199 --> 02:11:40.520
for missing. For missing. Right. Because if you're

02:11:40.520 --> 02:11:42.140
a guy who just throws a lot of fucking punches,

02:11:42.180 --> 02:11:43.479
you're going to miss a lot of punches too. If

02:11:43.479 --> 02:11:46.619
you have some insane cardio and you just go after

02:11:46.619 --> 02:11:49.279
a guy. throw insane volume at them. Well, you

02:11:49.279 --> 02:11:51.779
take 100 % of the shots you miss. Isn't that

02:11:51.779 --> 02:11:55.359
the saying? You miss 100 % of the shots you don't

02:11:55.359 --> 02:11:59.859
take. But you do take 100 % of the shots you

02:11:59.859 --> 02:12:03.600
miss, too. That's a pessimistic version of that.

02:12:03.600 --> 02:12:06.720
A little bit, but it is true. 100 % of the times

02:12:06.720 --> 02:12:11.539
you missed, you took a shot. That's true. That's

02:12:11.539 --> 02:12:14.640
unavoidable. My buddy told me that, and I was

02:12:14.640 --> 02:12:17.020
like, oh, that's amazing. It is. That's amazing.

02:12:17.180 --> 02:12:19.039
Nobody wants to think about that. No one thinks

02:12:19.039 --> 02:12:22.220
about that. You got to go for it. A lot of people

02:12:22.220 --> 02:12:25.420
go for it. They said Michael Jordan said that.

02:12:25.619 --> 02:12:27.699
Did he? And then Michael Jordan didn't say that.

02:12:28.119 --> 02:12:29.800
You might have said it and forgot. You might

02:12:29.800 --> 02:12:32.619
have been in a competitive trance. Oh, it's Wayne

02:12:32.619 --> 02:12:34.930
Gretzky. You miss 100 % of the shots you don't

02:12:34.930 --> 02:12:37.409
take. Wayne Gretzky, Michael Scott included in

02:12:37.409 --> 02:12:39.470
the quotes. Michael Scott said it afterwards.

02:12:40.210 --> 02:12:43.350
Oh, that's funny. Michael Scott's probably one

02:12:43.350 --> 02:12:45.329
of the most legendary characters of all time.

02:12:45.489 --> 02:12:47.789
How about the fact that that guy went on to play

02:12:47.789 --> 02:12:52.270
that creepy DuPont guy in that movie. What was

02:12:52.270 --> 02:12:55.310
that movie? The wrestling movie? Foxcatcher.

02:12:55.409 --> 02:12:58.720
Did you ever see that movie? No, sir. Bro. It's

02:12:58.720 --> 02:13:02.479
a crazy movie, but he plays this really fucking

02:13:02.479 --> 02:13:07.479
creepy dude. He did an incredible job. The makeup

02:13:07.479 --> 02:13:10.920
is good. Yeah, it was really good. Good movie.

02:13:11.180 --> 02:13:13.920
Can't recommend it enough. Channing Tatum? Mm

02:13:13.920 --> 02:13:17.420
-hmm. Young Channing Tatum? Yeah. What year is

02:13:17.420 --> 02:13:21.779
that? 2014. Steve Carell kills it in that movie.

02:13:21.939 --> 02:13:24.920
It's a really good movie, man. There's some fucked

02:13:24.920 --> 02:13:27.500
up things about that movie, like historical inaccuracies,

02:13:27.500 --> 02:13:29.600
because it has to do with some real wrestlers,

02:13:29.619 --> 02:13:30.920
and they took some liberties with the story.

02:13:31.020 --> 02:13:34.699
Sure. But Steve Carell nails it. If you just

02:13:34.699 --> 02:13:37.340
want to see it as a movie and not think about

02:13:37.340 --> 02:13:39.760
it being, whether it's accurate. Yeah, because

02:13:39.760 --> 02:13:41.899
I'm totally clueless about it. It's interesting.

02:13:42.300 --> 02:13:43.939
It's just crazy that that's the guy from The

02:13:43.939 --> 02:13:46.859
Office. He's so good. Yeah, man. He's so good.

02:13:46.899 --> 02:13:50.220
Crazy range. Have you met Channing? Mm -mm. Oh,

02:13:50.220 --> 02:13:52.779
my God. No. He's the best. Is he? Yeah, he's

02:13:52.779 --> 02:13:54.500
the best fucking guy. I remember I was working

02:13:54.500 --> 02:13:57.420
on the last album, and we did a whole bunch of

02:13:57.420 --> 02:14:00.100
shroomies and just listened to it. He's such

02:14:00.100 --> 02:14:02.979
a fucking cool motherfucker. I like it when I

02:14:02.979 --> 02:14:05.340
hear about cool people. Me, too. And, you know,

02:14:05.420 --> 02:14:08.239
it's always scary because you never really know.

02:14:08.720 --> 02:14:12.939
You never really know. You feel like you know,

02:14:13.079 --> 02:14:16.359
and that's kind of a whole thing with... You

02:14:16.359 --> 02:14:18.560
know, the way everything is today is like, oh,

02:14:18.659 --> 02:14:21.640
I feel like I know. I've seen you before. Right.

02:14:21.960 --> 02:14:24.159
I see everything that you do. I know where you

02:14:24.159 --> 02:14:28.699
are 24 hours a day. I know you. Yeah. And it's.

02:14:28.920 --> 02:14:31.039
I'm looking at you on Snapchat map. Exactly.

02:14:31.199 --> 02:14:35.159
Well, I'm looking at you on OnlyFans. Imagine

02:14:35.159 --> 02:14:37.239
OnlyFans had a map of where the girls are all

02:14:37.239 --> 02:14:40.100
the time. That's fucked. No way. No, that'd be

02:14:40.100 --> 02:14:43.939
terrible. It's so crazy how anyone knows where

02:14:43.939 --> 02:14:46.520
you are. Yeah. At all times. Well, the government

02:14:46.520 --> 02:14:49.119
does. It's crazy. Someone does. If they're looking

02:14:49.119 --> 02:14:50.800
for you. By the way. If you're carrying a phone

02:14:50.800 --> 02:14:52.659
around. I'm a good boy. You're a good boy. I'm

02:14:52.659 --> 02:14:54.180
a good boy, too. I just want to let them know.

02:14:55.079 --> 02:14:58.579
Joe's a good boy, too. We pay our taxes. We pay

02:14:58.579 --> 02:15:01.100
our taxes, and we are not kids, and we definitely

02:15:01.100 --> 02:15:04.739
pay our taxes. We're only good. Only good, not

02:15:04.739 --> 02:15:09.560
bad. God bless America. It's, I don't know. It's

02:15:09.560 --> 02:15:15.210
so crazy nowadays, the way that. People feel

02:15:15.210 --> 02:15:22.850
so personal with people, but it's super unpersonal

02:15:22.850 --> 02:15:26.029
at the same time. I remember whenever I started

02:15:26.029 --> 02:15:31.489
losing my weight, everybody was like, hey, this

02:15:31.489 --> 02:15:34.729
is what meth looks like. And I started dancing

02:15:34.729 --> 02:15:37.390
on stage and having fun and having more energy

02:15:37.390 --> 02:15:40.569
and just enjoying life again. You know what I

02:15:40.569 --> 02:15:44.560
mean? Like I mentioned, I was shitty for a long

02:15:44.560 --> 02:15:48.420
time, but I had my baby and I'm in a great fucking

02:15:48.420 --> 02:15:51.579
spot. And then the first thing that happens is

02:15:51.579 --> 02:15:54.539
like, oh, he's on fucking drugs. And I'm like,

02:15:54.600 --> 02:15:57.539
well, I know there's people that genuinely care.

02:15:58.479 --> 02:16:00.060
Right. And they're concerned that maybe you are

02:16:00.060 --> 02:16:02.100
on drugs. Right. But there's also people that

02:16:02.100 --> 02:16:03.579
are just like, all right, kids, this is what

02:16:03.579 --> 02:16:06.420
fucking meth looks like. Yeah. And definitely

02:16:06.420 --> 02:16:10.000
not on meth. Definitely not on any fucking hard

02:16:10.000 --> 02:16:14.579
drugs, but you feel an inclination almost as

02:16:14.579 --> 02:16:20.060
a public figure to have to justify something

02:16:20.060 --> 02:16:23.659
that you don't need to justify. First off, it's

02:16:23.659 --> 02:16:25.939
nobody's business. Second off, don't just fucking

02:16:25.939 --> 02:16:28.340
assume everything. You know what I mean? Yeah.

02:16:28.600 --> 02:16:32.280
It's like, so I was like, hey, guys, not on fucking

02:16:32.280 --> 02:16:35.280
drugs. And I know that's the crazy part is because

02:16:35.280 --> 02:16:37.969
I know there's people that. really give a shit

02:16:37.969 --> 02:16:41.450
but there's also a lot of people that are just

02:16:41.450 --> 02:16:45.930
like mean you know people are just mean in general

02:16:45.930 --> 02:16:48.680
online you never have to face repercussions yeah

02:16:48.680 --> 02:16:51.239
they're just not happy with their own life and

02:16:51.239 --> 02:16:53.860
they want you to fail and that's that's what

02:16:53.860 --> 02:16:56.260
you're reading you know that's all that is it's

02:16:56.260 --> 02:16:58.520
just someone wants you to be and then there's

02:16:58.520 --> 02:17:00.959
you know an unusual thing like all of a sudden

02:17:00.959 --> 02:17:03.159
you have this unusual amount of energy and joy

02:17:03.159 --> 02:17:07.059
for life yeah like oh i don't know seems different

02:17:07.059 --> 02:17:10.059
i'm not buying it something can't be that love

02:17:10.059 --> 02:17:12.879
drug it's got to be something else it's it's

02:17:12.879 --> 02:17:19.139
it's it's it's interesting to to See it happen.

02:17:19.280 --> 02:17:22.280
And I don't know how much you, how much do you

02:17:22.280 --> 02:17:24.659
pay attention to social media? Almost none. I

02:17:24.659 --> 02:17:28.079
read other stuff about other things, but I don't

02:17:28.079 --> 02:17:30.819
pay attention to anything about me. It's not

02:17:30.819 --> 02:17:34.379
healthy for you. It's not. A long time ago I

02:17:34.379 --> 02:17:36.319
got off, and that was like the best decision

02:17:36.319 --> 02:17:39.100
I've ever made. But it is a good source of interesting

02:17:39.100 --> 02:17:41.360
shit. There's a lot of interesting things to

02:17:41.360 --> 02:17:43.420
pay attention to in the world. But you have to

02:17:43.420 --> 02:17:46.170
kind of be real careful how you curate it. And

02:17:46.170 --> 02:17:49.510
I think with some people, what I see and I follow

02:17:49.510 --> 02:17:51.709
quite a few people that I can tell that this

02:17:51.709 --> 02:17:54.229
is what's going on. It's their daily obsession

02:17:54.229 --> 02:17:58.350
is interacting on Twitter and like saying things

02:17:58.350 --> 02:18:01.469
and arguing with people and getting in confrontations

02:18:01.469 --> 02:18:04.170
and, you know, and dunking on people. Right.

02:18:04.309 --> 02:18:07.430
So they do it all day long. It's like it's one

02:18:07.430 --> 02:18:10.659
of their main interactions. That they have with

02:18:10.659 --> 02:18:12.340
human beings. The amount of time they put into

02:18:12.340 --> 02:18:14.680
it probably dwarfs all the other time they put

02:18:14.680 --> 02:18:17.700
in with human beings. Right. And it's a crazy,

02:18:17.719 --> 02:18:26.819
crazy fucking thing, too. Who decides what is

02:18:26.819 --> 02:18:30.100
interesting, too? Because I'll tell you what,

02:18:30.200 --> 02:18:37.159
the submarine thing. With the submarine that

02:18:37.159 --> 02:18:39.860
went to go see the Titanic? Yeah. Or not submarine,

02:18:40.000 --> 02:18:42.639
but the whole Titanic deal, the submersible thing.

02:18:44.479 --> 02:18:49.219
Not once, Joe, in my entire life have I said,

02:18:49.260 --> 02:18:52.280
if I get on my phone and I'm like, hey, or if

02:18:52.280 --> 02:18:54.260
I'm not even on my phone, if I'm just like, hey,

02:18:54.260 --> 02:18:57.340
I want a jet ski, I'm thinking about getting

02:18:57.340 --> 02:18:59.260
a jet ski. And then the next time you get out

02:18:59.260 --> 02:19:01.860
your phone, you get an ad for a jet ski, right?

02:19:02.790 --> 02:19:04.989
But not once in my life have I been like, oh,

02:19:05.190 --> 02:19:09.530
like, submersibles are very interesting to me.

02:19:09.590 --> 02:19:13.750
Like, I want to go see the fucking Titanic. How

02:19:13.750 --> 02:19:19.329
was that story everywhere? Well, because the

02:19:19.329 --> 02:19:21.790
people that were involved were very wealthy.

02:19:21.989 --> 02:19:24.850
And when wealthy people do stupid shit, we have

02:19:24.850 --> 02:19:27.729
a certain sense of glee. Like when some wealthy

02:19:27.729 --> 02:19:29.909
billionaire wants to take a rocket into space

02:19:29.909 --> 02:19:32.930
and it blows up. People would be like, ha ha.

02:19:33.729 --> 02:19:35.729
There's a part of that. Right. There's definitely

02:19:35.729 --> 02:19:38.489
a part of ha ha. If you are a person who gets

02:19:38.489 --> 02:19:40.590
to watch people do something that you think is

02:19:40.590 --> 02:19:43.790
really fucking stupid, like get into an unproven

02:19:43.790 --> 02:19:47.870
watercraft. With a GameCube controller. That's

02:19:47.870 --> 02:19:51.629
been, had people resign because of safety concerns.

02:19:51.850 --> 02:19:55.610
Right. That's one of those things where when

02:19:55.610 --> 02:19:58.670
people die like that, people enjoy watching it.

02:19:58.909 --> 02:20:00.290
They enjoy paying attention to it. Is that weird?

02:20:00.649 --> 02:20:04.030
It's weird. It's also fear. It's the fear of

02:20:04.030 --> 02:20:06.270
the actual experience of being that person because

02:20:06.270 --> 02:20:08.250
you could imagine it. You could imagine if you

02:20:08.250 --> 02:20:10.350
had been talked into it somehow. Everybody says

02:20:10.350 --> 02:20:12.049
it's totally safe. Right. Don't worry. And you're

02:20:12.049 --> 02:20:13.850
like, okay, let's do it. Let's do it. And then

02:20:13.850 --> 02:20:16.250
you're down there in the ocean and then you hear

02:20:16.250 --> 02:20:18.889
a crack. Yeah. And you're like, oh, Jesus. But

02:20:18.889 --> 02:20:22.969
those guys, they died so fast. Supposedly. Okay.

02:20:23.450 --> 02:20:26.590
Yeah. What I heard is that something failed and

02:20:26.590 --> 02:20:30.309
it plummeted. And that as it was plummeting,

02:20:30.309 --> 02:20:33.690
they probably knew they were dying as it was

02:20:33.690 --> 02:20:37.750
plummeting into the ocean. Because the actual

02:20:37.750 --> 02:20:43.250
collapse would be tens of a second, is what they

02:20:43.250 --> 02:20:47.090
said. Imagine the force behind that weight. All

02:20:47.090 --> 02:20:50.129
that water. If the clouds are a million pounds.

02:20:50.229 --> 02:20:54.190
Yeah. A cloud. It's floating in the sky and it's

02:20:54.190 --> 02:20:56.829
a million pounds. All that shit around you. Imagine

02:20:56.829 --> 02:21:00.750
you're 4 ,000 feet deep in the ocean. That's

02:21:00.750 --> 02:21:04.690
fucking crazy. Boom. It's just pink mist. Do

02:21:04.690 --> 02:21:06.950
you think that's never happened before? I'm sure

02:21:06.950 --> 02:21:08.530
it's happened before. It's definitely happened

02:21:08.530 --> 02:21:10.829
before. And it's just so crazy. Like, I don't

02:21:10.829 --> 02:21:15.969
know. That's all anybody talked about for a week.

02:21:16.440 --> 02:21:19.100
Right. And then now no one fucking talks about

02:21:19.100 --> 02:21:20.659
it. It just comes and goes. Well, because we

02:21:20.659 --> 02:21:22.500
found out that they died and then there's not

02:21:22.500 --> 02:21:24.340
much more to say other than, you know, people

02:21:24.340 --> 02:21:26.819
go looking into the history of the safety concerns

02:21:26.819 --> 02:21:30.280
that these engineers had. Right. How did anybody

02:21:30.280 --> 02:21:32.440
ignore that? How did they allow people to do

02:21:32.440 --> 02:21:35.500
this? And, you know, the dude who ran it, you

02:21:35.500 --> 02:21:37.819
know, they're fascinated by him because he was

02:21:37.819 --> 02:21:39.700
actually in it. It's not like he just put somebody

02:21:39.700 --> 02:21:42.079
in it. He went in it himself. So he believed

02:21:42.079 --> 02:21:45.440
in it. He died with them. He was on that trip.

02:21:45.520 --> 02:21:48.110
Yeah. Yes, which is wild too. So the whole story

02:21:48.110 --> 02:21:52.149
is – it's a thing when we see someone do something

02:21:52.149 --> 02:21:54.930
and die and we think it's unnecessary or stupid.

02:21:55.889 --> 02:21:58.610
There's a part of us that like has to study it

02:21:58.610 --> 02:22:00.950
because that's how you learn – even if it's something

02:22:00.950 --> 02:22:02.809
you would never do. That's how you learn to never

02:22:02.809 --> 02:22:05.809
do that. When you see some guy and he's taking

02:22:05.809 --> 02:22:08.549
a selfie on a skyscraper and he falls. You're

02:22:08.549 --> 02:22:11.129
like, Jesus. It just cements it in your head.

02:22:11.430 --> 02:22:14.209
Don't fucking do that. Don't do that. Don't fucking

02:22:14.209 --> 02:22:16.350
do that. But that's like, I don't know. That's

02:22:16.350 --> 02:22:19.950
like evolution. It's like you're kind of like.

02:22:20.620 --> 02:22:23.219
Well, you don't want to be up that high. That's

02:22:23.219 --> 02:22:25.819
okay. I don't want to go anywhere fucking near

02:22:25.819 --> 02:22:29.979
that. And my body says, don't fucking go anywhere

02:22:29.979 --> 02:22:31.440
near that high. And some people are like, bro,

02:22:31.540 --> 02:22:32.920
I'm going to do chin -ups. And then some, like,

02:22:33.000 --> 02:22:36.739
down that low, too. Well, it's just, I don't

02:22:36.739 --> 02:22:39.920
know. Like, I talk, a lot of my buddies who surf,

02:22:40.000 --> 02:22:41.600
they're like, oh, yeah, I jumped on an airplane

02:22:41.600 --> 02:22:45.340
like a thousand fucking times. Yo. How? Why?

02:22:45.559 --> 02:22:50.209
How? Yo, yo, yo. It's not right. I'm a terrestrial

02:22:50.209 --> 02:22:52.190
being. It's a terrible way to die. I'm so happy

02:22:52.190 --> 02:22:54.670
being here. I'm so happy being here. Me too.

02:22:54.889 --> 02:22:59.090
My friend Brian, his... No, see, this is wrong.

02:22:59.229 --> 02:23:01.350
Don't show me this, Jamie. Stop. I get sweaty.

02:23:01.350 --> 02:23:03.770
Jamie, that's wrong. I get sweaty. I get sweaty

02:23:03.770 --> 02:23:06.629
hands. These motherfuckers drive me nuts. Why?

02:23:06.950 --> 02:23:09.610
It's so crazy. I'm not going to lie to you. Have

02:23:09.610 --> 02:23:11.930
you seen... Oh, fuck. There was a movie about

02:23:11.930 --> 02:23:16.579
this. Like, Free Climber. Oh. Alex Honnold? Or

02:23:16.579 --> 02:23:19.860
are you talking about The Alpinist? The Ice Climber?

02:23:19.920 --> 02:23:23.500
It wasn't a non -fiction. It was a fictional

02:23:23.500 --> 02:23:25.780
movie. Oh, a fictional movie. But she climbed

02:23:25.780 --> 02:23:29.600
up this cell phone tower right before they were

02:23:29.600 --> 02:23:32.540
going to tear it down. And she gets stuck up

02:23:32.540 --> 02:23:36.280
there. Oh, Jesus Christ. And my feet were sweating.

02:23:36.520 --> 02:23:40.059
And I love horror movies. I love horror movies,

02:23:40.139 --> 02:23:42.700
all this shit. But watching that, I'm like...

02:23:43.079 --> 02:23:47.500
Yeah, fall. Do not show me this. Do not show

02:23:47.500 --> 02:23:51.219
me this. Stop it. Stop it, Jamie. No, don't show

02:23:51.219 --> 02:23:54.959
me this, man. I want to watch this. Oh, God damn

02:23:54.959 --> 02:23:58.680
it. It is so... Okay, stop, stop, stop, stop,

02:23:58.680 --> 02:24:03.239
stop. I was so pumped because I was like, this

02:24:03.239 --> 02:24:07.159
movie scared the dog shit out of me. And I love

02:24:07.159 --> 02:24:10.000
scary movies. I love them. I watch them like

02:24:10.000 --> 02:24:11.979
every fucking night, go to bed, all this shit.

02:24:12.040 --> 02:24:14.600
But that movie scared the shit out of me. There's

02:24:14.600 --> 02:24:16.899
a movie about a bunch of people that are in a

02:24:16.899 --> 02:24:21.020
ski resort. And they're on like the last of the

02:24:21.020 --> 02:24:23.159
fucking, what are those things? Gondola. What

02:24:23.159 --> 02:24:25.579
are those things? The ski thing. Gondola. What

02:24:25.579 --> 02:24:27.299
are the skis? What do they call them? Ski lifts?

02:24:27.840 --> 02:24:30.420
It depends on where. Gondola is like the fancy

02:24:30.420 --> 02:24:32.340
way. Right. That's the indoor ones, right? So

02:24:32.340 --> 02:24:35.139
they're on the ski lift and the fucking park

02:24:35.139 --> 02:24:38.340
shuts down. Like they try to catch the last one.

02:24:38.700 --> 02:24:40.979
park shuts down, they get stuck. And then they

02:24:40.979 --> 02:24:44.719
get hunted by wolves. Is it with Liam Neeson?

02:24:44.979 --> 02:24:47.459
Is it called Frozen? Yeah, it's called Frozen.

02:24:47.620 --> 02:24:49.979
Frozen has Elsa in it. That's a different Frozen.

02:24:50.020 --> 02:24:51.459
Okay. Yeah, you don't want to get the wrong one

02:24:51.459 --> 02:24:54.420
for your kid. I've seen Frozen with Elsa about

02:24:54.420 --> 02:24:57.879
30 times, man. This isn't fucking Frozen. Where's

02:24:57.879 --> 02:25:02.959
Elsa? Daddy's an asshole. Imagine, girls, you

02:25:02.959 --> 02:25:05.260
want to watch Frozen? Yeah. Look, it says Frozen.

02:25:05.579 --> 02:25:08.920
Stop crying. People used to get eaten by wolves.

02:25:09.219 --> 02:25:12.459
It was normal. You break your leg in the woods.

02:25:12.479 --> 02:25:16.569
The wolf's name is Elsa. She's so cute. I think

02:25:16.569 --> 02:25:18.829
at one point in time a guy tries to climb down,

02:25:18.889 --> 02:25:21.969
he falls, and then the wolves get him. There's

02:25:21.969 --> 02:25:23.770
a bunch of scenes like that. Spoiler alert. It's

02:25:23.770 --> 02:25:27.309
that shit like that. Yeah, this is it. So they

02:25:27.309 --> 02:25:31.809
get stuck. Fuck that, dude. Yeah, and then the

02:25:31.809 --> 02:25:36.389
wolves come out. That's such a good concept,

02:25:36.450 --> 02:25:38.069
though. It was a good movie, man. It was a good

02:25:38.069 --> 02:25:44.729
movie. I love it. And see the wolves are below

02:25:44.729 --> 02:26:03.190
him. Shut up, Jamie. You're goofy. Shut up, Jamie.

02:26:04.889 --> 02:26:07.510
That's scary. That's scary. That's scary. Bro,

02:26:07.549 --> 02:26:09.049
have you ever been on a ski lift and it stops?

02:26:09.309 --> 02:26:12.500
I'm just like, how would you be stuck? I like

02:26:12.500 --> 02:26:16.719
how they tried to add impact in the trailer to

02:26:16.719 --> 02:26:19.520
the word two. I think what it was, if I remember.

02:26:19.760 --> 02:26:22.520
It was like, boom, two. It was one of those deals

02:26:22.520 --> 02:26:25.260
where someone knew somebody and they let them

02:26:25.260 --> 02:26:27.520
in and then no one knew that they were on the

02:26:27.520 --> 02:26:29.799
lift. Because they were the last one. They weren't

02:26:29.799 --> 02:26:32.219
supposed to be skiing. But there were some kids.

02:26:32.299 --> 02:26:34.879
They snuck in. They got on the lift. And no one

02:26:34.879 --> 02:26:36.420
knew they were on the lift. So when it stopped,

02:26:36.659 --> 02:26:38.719
no one knew. No one knew there was people on

02:26:38.719 --> 02:26:41.430
it. That was my biggest fear, too, getting lost

02:26:41.430 --> 02:26:44.309
in, like, the Walmart and my mom was gone. Like,

02:26:44.309 --> 02:26:45.889
she left me there and there was no one there.

02:26:46.389 --> 02:26:49.629
But now that I'm older, I realize how badass

02:26:49.629 --> 02:26:52.209
that would be to be stuck in a Walmart with no

02:26:52.209 --> 02:26:55.370
one there. That would be, like, the funnest time

02:26:55.370 --> 02:26:57.370
ever. If you could get over your anxiety, the

02:26:57.370 --> 02:26:59.049
fact that you were stuck in a Walmart. Yeah,

02:26:59.069 --> 02:27:02.889
if I was just my age, I'm 28, and I told my 10

02:27:02.889 --> 02:27:05.129
-year -old self, I was like, good, you run away

02:27:05.129 --> 02:27:08.500
from your mom right now. You get stuck in the

02:27:08.500 --> 02:27:10.579
fucking Walmart. You stay under a shelf until

02:27:10.579 --> 02:27:12.520
everyone leaves, and then you can just fucking

02:27:12.520 --> 02:27:14.940
go run around. And they always give you shit

02:27:14.940 --> 02:27:18.760
about playing with the balls. The balls in the

02:27:18.760 --> 02:27:22.559
pen, not like your balls. They do? They give

02:27:22.559 --> 02:27:24.200
you shit about playing with your balls in Walmart,

02:27:24.360 --> 02:27:27.600
too. Whenever you take the big balls out of the

02:27:27.600 --> 02:27:29.500
thing, you know what I'm talking about? Now they

02:27:29.500 --> 02:27:31.860
close them up. Really? Yeah, they close them

02:27:31.860 --> 02:27:34.059
up so the kids don't play with them. Because

02:27:34.059 --> 02:27:36.159
you don't got to buy it. You just take it out

02:27:36.159 --> 02:27:37.799
and play with it the whole time you're in Walmart.

02:27:38.079 --> 02:27:40.920
Right. And they don't want kids playing at Walmart?

02:27:41.020 --> 02:27:42.799
They don't want kids playing at Walmart. Are

02:27:42.799 --> 02:27:45.219
you kidding me? I can't tell you how many times

02:27:45.219 --> 02:27:47.600
I walk into a Walmart and I see a bunch of kids

02:27:47.600 --> 02:27:49.600
fucking having fun and playing and I'm just like,

02:27:49.639 --> 02:27:55.299
I'm out. Yeah, what would be the... Negative

02:27:55.299 --> 02:27:57.719
effect of kids playing at Walmart. I have to

02:27:57.719 --> 02:27:59.579
fucking leave, man. There's too many kids playing

02:27:59.579 --> 02:28:01.940
around here. I guess the only negative would

02:28:01.940 --> 02:28:04.620
be if somebody wanted to buy the ball the kid

02:28:04.620 --> 02:28:09.319
was playing with. Joe, you know there are people

02:28:09.319 --> 02:28:11.959
that would get pissed. Oh, for sure. Because

02:28:11.959 --> 02:28:14.600
these kids would throw them at the old lady and

02:28:14.600 --> 02:28:18.040
she'd freak out. That's true. Especially in this

02:28:18.040 --> 02:28:21.360
day and age. We've seen the Karen montages. Yes.

02:28:23.000 --> 02:28:25.360
It's funny that that one name just took off.

02:28:25.719 --> 02:28:28.100
Crazy. I know a lot of beautiful Karens, like

02:28:28.100 --> 02:28:30.780
genuinely named Karen. Really nice people, and

02:28:30.780 --> 02:28:33.860
they're stuck. They're stuck with that. It's

02:28:33.860 --> 02:28:39.379
crazy how names like that, now that we're in

02:28:39.379 --> 02:28:43.040
this phase, no one in this generation will name

02:28:43.040 --> 02:28:46.979
their daughter Karen. Probably not. Yeah, I would

02:28:46.979 --> 02:28:49.260
like to see how many people were named Karen

02:28:49.260 --> 02:28:55.079
in the year 2022. Probably like 10, sub 10. We're

02:28:55.079 --> 02:28:57.739
talking sub 10s here. I bet it was still thousands.

02:28:58.059 --> 02:29:00.579
I bet there's thousands of Karen's. Sub 10. There's

02:29:00.579 --> 02:29:02.579
a woman out there named Karen, and Karens are

02:29:02.579 --> 02:29:04.639
the type of girl to name their daughter Karen

02:29:04.639 --> 02:29:09.200
too. She's Karen Jr. Shut the fuck up. Mind your

02:29:09.200 --> 02:29:14.399
business. So there must have been a shitty, so

02:29:14.399 --> 02:29:17.959
like the Karens of like. 100 years ago were probably

02:29:17.959 --> 02:29:20.540
Gertrude, because there's no Gertrudes anymore.

02:29:20.899 --> 02:29:24.260
Yeah, Gertrudes got phased out. That's actually

02:29:24.260 --> 02:29:27.159
a beautiful name, Gertrude. It's lovely, but

02:29:27.159 --> 02:29:32.500
it's got such this bad rep. Yeah, there's like

02:29:32.500 --> 02:29:35.219
eras of names. The Karens are the Gertrudes of

02:29:35.219 --> 02:29:38.219
100 years ago. They're like, let me speak to

02:29:38.219 --> 02:29:40.860
your manager. And then they're like, oh, she's

02:29:40.860 --> 02:29:42.920
such a total Gertrude. Isn't that interesting

02:29:42.920 --> 02:29:45.399
that it's super common for men to name their

02:29:45.399 --> 02:29:48.020
son the same name as them? Sure. But it's not

02:29:48.020 --> 02:29:50.239
common for women to do that. It's almost like

02:29:50.239 --> 02:29:53.139
never. I never hear that. I've never met a junior

02:29:53.139 --> 02:30:00.180
lady ever. Yeah. That doesn't exist. That's fascinating.

02:30:00.559 --> 02:30:03.379
That is a really interesting point to show how

02:30:03.379 --> 02:30:05.479
much more fucked up men are than women. That's

02:30:05.479 --> 02:30:07.959
fucking crazy. This motherfucker is going to

02:30:07.959 --> 02:30:11.440
be just like me. He will carry my name like it's

02:30:11.440 --> 02:30:14.760
me. He is literally my cum. Yeah, he's my cum

02:30:14.760 --> 02:30:19.399
manifesting itself. Yeah. It's weird. Yeah, it

02:30:19.399 --> 02:30:23.040
is weird. It's a male thing. Yeah, man. Did you

02:30:23.040 --> 02:30:25.840
see the Barbie movie? No, I have not. No, sir.

02:30:26.950 --> 02:30:28.489
A lot of people were upset about the Barbie movie,

02:30:28.590 --> 02:30:31.969
and I left perplexed. Did you see it? Yeah, it

02:30:31.969 --> 02:30:33.690
was a fun movie. Was it good? Fun, silly movie

02:30:33.690 --> 02:30:36.549
about dolls who come to life. But a lot of it

02:30:36.549 --> 02:30:40.350
is about the patriarchy. Sure. And it's a comedy.

02:30:40.709 --> 02:30:43.889
It's a comedy about dolls. Sure. People are upset

02:30:43.889 --> 02:30:51.010
that it's this. you know, like progressive metaphor

02:30:51.010 --> 02:30:53.450
for life that it's, you know, that they're pushing

02:30:53.450 --> 02:30:55.709
progressive politics in this. I'm like, it's

02:30:55.709 --> 02:31:00.610
a fucking doll movie. It's a doll movie. It's

02:31:00.610 --> 02:31:03.750
a fun movie about dolls who come to life and

02:31:03.750 --> 02:31:07.329
try to interact with the real world. And there's

02:31:07.329 --> 02:31:10.530
this lady in it. Who's this mom who I'm spoiler

02:31:10.530 --> 02:31:14.969
alert, who makes. barbie feel sad because she's

02:31:14.969 --> 02:31:16.610
playing with barbie and she has sad feelings

02:31:16.610 --> 02:31:19.649
it's it's a fucking interesting movie it's like

02:31:19.649 --> 02:31:21.950
because i was like wow this is a original movie

02:31:21.950 --> 02:31:23.709
like no one's ever done a movie like this before

02:31:23.709 --> 02:31:26.969
it's not like anything else you could say it

02:31:26.969 --> 02:31:30.209
was it was bizarre movie but it was a fun silly

02:31:30.209 --> 02:31:32.770
movie i laughed but at the end of it i was like

02:31:32.770 --> 02:31:35.930
how did people get outraged at that like it make

02:31:35.930 --> 02:31:38.110
they were saying it's anti i know some people

02:31:38.110 --> 02:31:40.090
personally said it's anti -men i'm like no it's

02:31:40.090 --> 02:31:43.719
it's making fun of dorks It's making fun. It's

02:31:43.719 --> 02:31:46.360
fun. You didn't think it was fun? Like if that

02:31:46.360 --> 02:31:48.360
was a real person, that happening to them, isn't

02:31:48.360 --> 02:31:50.579
that fun? Well, Marco and Ryan are just like.

02:31:51.859 --> 02:31:54.120
Amazing. Amazing together in that movie too.

02:31:54.299 --> 02:31:56.739
I have to see it. I want to see it. I enjoyed

02:31:56.739 --> 02:31:59.399
it. I just didn't understand why people were

02:31:59.399 --> 02:32:01.879
getting so upset. Do you think that's you? Are

02:32:01.879 --> 02:32:05.340
all men in this one? Are we going to do this

02:32:05.340 --> 02:32:09.399
thing where we put all men as men? It's one category.

02:32:09.719 --> 02:32:11.659
We're not going to judge people as individuals.

02:32:11.920 --> 02:32:13.819
We're going to pretend that these individuals

02:32:13.819 --> 02:32:15.879
in this middle who are clearly dorks because

02:32:15.879 --> 02:32:18.510
they're designed to. It's fun. You don't think

02:32:18.510 --> 02:32:21.409
what happens to them and the way it happens isn't

02:32:21.409 --> 02:32:24.790
fun? I don't understand why people think that

02:32:24.790 --> 02:32:28.729
represents all men. It's the dumbest sort of...

02:32:28.729 --> 02:32:32.709
How does it... What was the... You said it's

02:32:32.709 --> 02:32:35.969
anti -men. They think it's a super woke movie.

02:32:37.469 --> 02:32:40.459
I just... That's the way to make that movie.

02:32:40.719 --> 02:32:41.780
It's also a fucking movie. But it's also a movie

02:32:41.780 --> 02:32:45.399
about how Barbies are the dolls that everyone

02:32:45.399 --> 02:32:47.540
cares about, and Ken is just a fucking accessory,

02:32:47.780 --> 02:32:50.639
which is real. So when you bring these things

02:32:50.639 --> 02:32:52.659
into a movie, you make them real -life Barbie

02:32:52.659 --> 02:32:54.940
land, that's how they have to be, because that's

02:32:54.940 --> 02:32:57.020
how it is in the real world. That's the movie.

02:32:57.139 --> 02:32:59.020
Right. And in the movie, they go to the real

02:32:59.020 --> 02:33:00.379
world, and we're all, it sucks, and it's run

02:33:00.379 --> 02:33:04.239
by men. And so this is what people are saying

02:33:04.239 --> 02:33:05.620
makes this an anti -men movie. That's a good

02:33:05.620 --> 02:33:09.079
concept, though. It's a fucking fun movie, man.

02:33:09.219 --> 02:33:15.579
I don't get it. I'm appalled at how easily outraged

02:33:15.579 --> 02:33:17.780
so many people are. I could see if you don't

02:33:17.780 --> 02:33:20.399
like it. I could see if it wasn't your kind of

02:33:20.399 --> 02:33:22.920
movie. But that's anything that someone creates.

02:33:22.979 --> 02:33:27.159
Well, to be honest, to be fair about that, it's

02:33:27.159 --> 02:33:30.639
also like... You said it's not your kind of movie.

02:33:30.739 --> 02:33:32.680
It's also the Barbie movie. Right. You have to

02:33:32.680 --> 02:33:36.200
kind of, you have to kind of like, you can't

02:33:36.200 --> 02:33:39.979
go in there walking so seriously about it. Right.

02:33:40.040 --> 02:33:42.219
Why would you go to see ACDC if you fucking hate

02:33:42.219 --> 02:33:45.000
ACDC? Yeah. Yeah. If you're like into classical

02:33:45.000 --> 02:33:46.739
music. It's just to make fun of Brian Johnson

02:33:46.739 --> 02:33:49.020
and be like, you're no Bond fucking Scott, man.

02:33:49.059 --> 02:33:52.520
You know that. I'm scared of that shit. I'm scared

02:33:52.520 --> 02:33:55.059
that people buy tickets to come and make fun

02:33:55.059 --> 02:33:57.200
of me. That's like my biggest fear. That's my

02:33:57.200 --> 02:34:00.600
biggest fear. I haven't seen it yet, and hopefully

02:34:00.600 --> 02:34:03.079
don't do that. But it's all right because I still

02:34:03.079 --> 02:34:07.120
sold a ticket. Go ahead. Sit in the front with

02:34:07.120 --> 02:34:11.799
your frown on. But it's actually really nice.

02:34:12.559 --> 02:34:22.170
This tour has been really nice. I feel like looking

02:34:22.170 --> 02:34:27.270
out at the crowd, it's not so phone -centric,

02:34:27.469 --> 02:34:32.930
which everything has become. It's really nice

02:34:32.930 --> 02:34:37.850
to be able to interact with people because you

02:34:37.850 --> 02:34:40.170
go and see a show and everybody and their dog

02:34:40.170 --> 02:34:43.729
has their phone out. You know what I mean? I

02:34:43.729 --> 02:34:48.670
feel like this tour has been less. phone centric

02:34:48.670 --> 02:34:51.510
which is like a beautiful thing for me as a like

02:34:51.510 --> 02:34:54.729
a performer yeah they're tuned in they're actually

02:34:54.729 --> 02:34:57.709
having a human experience yeah yeah a live performance

02:34:57.709 --> 02:35:01.069
experience yeah which i i feel like you know

02:35:01.069 --> 02:35:04.129
is everything is like oh pixar didn't happen

02:35:04.129 --> 02:35:07.690
you know what i mean right right right when you

02:35:07.690 --> 02:35:10.530
could just they used to tell crazy fucking stories

02:35:10.530 --> 02:35:13.229
like well okay this dude fought like six dudes

02:35:13.229 --> 02:35:16.590
and by himself all this shit but like you could

02:35:16.590 --> 02:35:19.219
just take someone's word that it was, like, cool.

02:35:19.639 --> 02:35:22.700
Like, you can just be like, it was fun. We had

02:35:22.700 --> 02:35:24.540
so much fun. Oh, sick. You got any pictures?

02:35:24.579 --> 02:35:27.040
No, I just had a great fucking time. Just enjoyed

02:35:27.040 --> 02:35:29.360
the concert. Yeah, man. Yeah, just have a human

02:35:29.360 --> 02:35:31.600
experience. But I get also why people want to

02:35:31.600 --> 02:35:33.780
say that they were there and say they love you

02:35:33.780 --> 02:35:37.200
and, you know, show was awesome. Yeah. We had

02:35:37.200 --> 02:35:39.340
a great fucking time. Here's a photo of you on

02:35:39.340 --> 02:35:41.940
stage rocking out. It's like it adds the experience

02:35:41.940 --> 02:35:44.120
for them. Yeah, I mean, that's badass. That's

02:35:44.120 --> 02:35:47.809
badass to take. photos and videos and shit of

02:35:47.809 --> 02:35:48.930
your favorite moment. Just don't get lost in

02:35:48.930 --> 02:35:50.510
your phone. Well, that's the whole thing because

02:35:50.510 --> 02:35:52.729
I don't want someone, I don't want to go up on

02:35:52.729 --> 02:35:54.709
stage and have someone just playing fucking Candy

02:35:54.709 --> 02:35:58.729
Crush. You know what I mean? That's the most

02:35:58.729 --> 02:36:01.489
expensive Candy Crush games of all time. Maybe

02:36:01.489 --> 02:36:03.670
they just like Candy Crush with you in the background.

02:36:03.930 --> 02:36:06.530
This is great. What an experience. But then it's

02:36:06.530 --> 02:36:08.489
just like, oh, it's like Candy Crush with me

02:36:08.489 --> 02:36:10.670
in the background. It'll be just like, oh, like

02:36:10.670 --> 02:36:13.069
I'm at home. Yeah. Just playing Candy Crush with...

02:36:13.630 --> 02:36:17.090
At home in an arena, staring at their phone,

02:36:17.129 --> 02:36:19.469
playing a game with you right behind them singing.

02:36:19.489 --> 02:36:21.750
You can do like chameleon eyes. You can play

02:36:21.750 --> 02:36:24.329
Candy Crush here and then just go fucking over.

02:36:24.430 --> 02:36:27.469
So much stimuli. I think that actually might

02:36:27.469 --> 02:36:29.670
be fun. I think that might be. I think I should

02:36:29.670 --> 02:36:32.700
just play Candy Crush on stage. I think that's

02:36:32.700 --> 02:36:34.940
actually my new shit, is I'll just go play Candy

02:36:34.940 --> 02:36:37.639
Crush. Not an ad. Or not a sponsor. What is that

02:36:37.639 --> 02:36:40.420
Subway Surfers one? Is that the one? That one

02:36:40.420 --> 02:36:43.079
is addictive. That game is crack. That's a crack

02:36:43.079 --> 02:36:47.739
game. It's so addictive. My wife got into that

02:36:47.739 --> 02:36:49.319
one for a while. So did one of my daughters.

02:36:49.500 --> 02:36:51.479
So watching that game, it's like, get that fucking

02:36:51.479 --> 02:36:54.020
thing away from me. I'm playing Marvel Snap.

02:36:54.739 --> 02:36:58.000
Jamie, you play Marvel Snap? What's that? It's

02:36:58.000 --> 02:37:01.809
a Marvel card game. Oh. Speaking of cards, what

02:37:01.809 --> 02:37:03.409
about that cool card you just bought? Oh, yeah.

02:37:03.489 --> 02:37:05.969
Fuck, man. What'd you buy? You bought some wacky

02:37:05.969 --> 02:37:08.250
card, right? I bought a crazy, crazy card. Probably

02:37:08.250 --> 02:37:13.290
the dumbest thing. Not dumbest, but most irresponsible

02:37:13.290 --> 02:37:17.510
use of my money I've ever experienced. I bought

02:37:17.510 --> 02:37:23.129
a $2 million Magic the Gathering card. Wow. What

02:37:23.129 --> 02:37:25.629
kind of market is there for a $2 million? Are

02:37:25.629 --> 02:37:28.500
you bidding against yourself? Are there other

02:37:28.500 --> 02:37:30.979
people that are like, I'm in. He was like, all

02:37:30.979 --> 02:37:32.819
right, well, Posey said you could get two five

02:37:32.819 --> 02:37:36.700
for it. I said, fuck. Two six. But, man, I don't

02:37:36.700 --> 02:37:40.299
know. So it's a Lord of the Rings Magic the Gathering

02:37:40.299 --> 02:37:46.040
collab they did. And there's only one of them.

02:37:46.399 --> 02:37:49.620
There's only one card. There's only one of them.

02:37:50.180 --> 02:37:53.379
So out of all the boosters, all the collectors

02:37:53.379 --> 02:37:56.969
packs they sold. That was the one, and a guy

02:37:56.969 --> 02:38:00.850
in Toronto, his name's Brooke, he's an absolute

02:38:00.850 --> 02:38:05.090
fucking legend. And he worked at Costco, and

02:38:05.090 --> 02:38:09.809
he went to his local game store, and I don't

02:38:09.809 --> 02:38:12.149
know exactly how much he wants me to share, but

02:38:12.149 --> 02:38:17.010
he went to his local game store and pulled it

02:38:17.010 --> 02:38:21.690
out of a pack, and it was a $2 million card.

02:38:22.110 --> 02:38:25.780
Wow. Isn't that crazy? It literally is like Willy

02:38:25.780 --> 02:38:28.459
Wonka's fucking... Golden ticket. Yeah, man.

02:38:28.979 --> 02:38:33.399
It's so fucking cool. Well, as long as it gives

02:38:33.399 --> 02:38:36.440
you joy. Very much so. I would give that away.

02:38:37.180 --> 02:38:39.079
If somebody gave me one of those, I'd give it

02:38:39.079 --> 02:38:43.200
to you. Like, I don't know what to do with this.

02:38:43.459 --> 02:38:45.860
Fuck, I wish you pulled it. I wish you pulled

02:38:45.860 --> 02:38:48.079
it. I would have just gave it to you. 100 % I

02:38:48.079 --> 02:38:50.600
would have just gave it to you. But yeah, I don't

02:38:50.600 --> 02:38:54.049
know. I love... Have you ever played Magic the

02:38:54.049 --> 02:38:59.250
Gathering? No. Joe Rogan? No. You would be a

02:38:59.250 --> 02:39:02.870
beast. I don't think I would. It's a card game?

02:39:03.090 --> 02:39:05.690
Yes, sir. Yeah, I'm out. You don't play poker

02:39:05.690 --> 02:39:08.950
or nothing? No. Nothing? I appreciate it. I've

02:39:08.950 --> 02:39:10.829
watched a bunch of people play blackjack in Vegas.

02:39:11.149 --> 02:39:12.370
Dana White and a bunch of football players. I

02:39:12.370 --> 02:39:14.739
love blackjack. Oh, it's so scary. They were

02:39:14.739 --> 02:39:17.000
betting so much money. It was terrifying. Isn't

02:39:17.000 --> 02:39:21.360
it fun? Yeah. I enjoy watching. But I have an

02:39:21.360 --> 02:39:23.440
addictive personality. Sure. Particularly when

02:39:23.440 --> 02:39:25.239
it comes to games. Sure. I get very addicted

02:39:25.239 --> 02:39:27.159
to games. So I have to be very careful because

02:39:27.159 --> 02:39:29.520
I'm at casinos all the time because I'm at UFC

02:39:29.520 --> 02:39:32.159
fights. So I'm in Vegas all the time. I cannot

02:39:32.159 --> 02:39:35.120
be that guy. Well, magic's not a gambling game.

02:39:35.579 --> 02:39:38.239
You don't bet for money. You just play. Okay.

02:39:38.260 --> 02:39:42.319
And it's like, so there's over like. Jamie, would

02:39:42.319 --> 02:39:44.280
you let me know how many magic cards? I think

02:39:44.280 --> 02:39:47.760
there's over 30 ,000 unique magic cards right

02:39:47.760 --> 02:39:50.540
now. And so you're playing, and how does it work?

02:39:50.559 --> 02:39:53.479
You get dealt a hand? No, you draw from your

02:39:53.479 --> 02:39:55.139
deck. So if you're playing commander, it'll be

02:39:55.139 --> 02:39:58.340
you, me, and then two of our other buddies. Okay.

02:39:58.440 --> 02:40:03.079
Oh, shit, there's 50 ,000 unique. 49 ,998 total

02:40:03.079 --> 02:40:05.479
unique English language magic cards. Wow. Isn't

02:40:05.479 --> 02:40:08.629
that fucking crazy? Think about it. And the way

02:40:08.629 --> 02:40:11.149
that it works, it's like chess. It's just very,

02:40:11.389 --> 02:40:15.350
it's a game of nuance. And it's just like, it's

02:40:15.350 --> 02:40:19.149
the best game ever, ever created. Really? Ever

02:40:19.149 --> 02:40:23.629
created. Wow. In history. Wow. I don't have time

02:40:23.629 --> 02:40:27.030
for that game. No. If you don't have time for

02:40:27.030 --> 02:40:29.850
Diablo, don't get into Magic. Because this shit

02:40:29.850 --> 02:40:32.709
will eat your fucking life. It is like, in a

02:40:32.709 --> 02:40:35.930
good way. I enjoy playing. Right. Getting together

02:40:35.930 --> 02:40:39.870
with my buddies, and you just got three of your

02:40:39.870 --> 02:40:43.530
good friends, four including me, and you're just

02:40:43.530 --> 02:40:45.569
sitting there smoking, drinking, talking shit

02:40:45.569 --> 02:40:49.350
just like this, but you're also fucking playing

02:40:49.350 --> 02:40:53.610
chess with over 50 ,000 different pieces you

02:40:53.610 --> 02:40:56.590
could utilize and create whatever the fuck you

02:40:56.590 --> 02:41:04.389
want with. It's an amazing experience. Okay.

02:41:05.129 --> 02:41:07.450
I see it. I see what you're saying. Obviously,

02:41:07.549 --> 02:41:09.430
there's a large group of people that believe

02:41:09.430 --> 02:41:12.649
that as well, that agree with you. I mean, it's

02:41:12.649 --> 02:41:15.770
a huge game. It's huge. It's the best game. It's

02:41:15.770 --> 02:41:17.549
the best game ever created. What is the number

02:41:17.549 --> 02:41:20.069
one game that people are playing right now? If

02:41:20.069 --> 02:41:23.010
you had to add in video games, chess, everything,

02:41:23.129 --> 02:41:25.590
what's the number one game? Grand Theft Auto

02:41:25.590 --> 02:41:29.770
5 or probably like Baldur's Gate is massive right

02:41:29.770 --> 02:41:32.889
now. They had like 600 ,000 people right now.

02:41:34.440 --> 02:41:39.459
But maybe Fortnite? Yeah. Fortnite's huge. Still,

02:41:39.639 --> 02:41:41.979
Fortnite's killing it. Fortnite's been around

02:41:41.979 --> 02:41:45.959
a while now. Yeah. Right? Look up, like, most

02:41:45.959 --> 02:41:51.059
concurrent players, Jamie. Minecraft. Minecraft.

02:41:52.659 --> 02:41:56.500
Minecraft or Roblox, probably. Roblox? Roblox.

02:41:56.500 --> 02:42:01.799
Wait, we didn't do it the same. Minecraft. Roblox.

02:42:03.520 --> 02:42:06.680
Yeah, Roblox is very popular with the kids. Your

02:42:06.680 --> 02:42:09.040
kids play Roblox? Yeah, they play Roblox. How

02:42:09.040 --> 02:42:11.379
much money have you given to them for Roblox?

02:42:11.780 --> 02:42:16.879
Robux. Yeah, for the Robux. Stealing Robux. It's

02:42:16.879 --> 02:42:19.440
a fucking addictive game, though. But all good

02:42:19.440 --> 02:42:21.700
games are very addictive. That's the whole thing.

02:42:21.719 --> 02:42:23.399
They're engaging. And they're way more engaging

02:42:23.399 --> 02:42:25.899
than regular life. If you're playing a game of

02:42:25.899 --> 02:42:28.440
Quake when you're running down these alleyways

02:42:28.440 --> 02:42:30.500
and people are shooting rockets at you, it's

02:42:30.500 --> 02:42:34.479
so stimulating. But when I was done, I never

02:42:34.479 --> 02:42:37.600
felt good. I can play pool for hours, and when

02:42:37.600 --> 02:42:39.639
I'm done, I feel good. I feel fine. I had fun.

02:42:39.899 --> 02:42:41.979
But when I'm playing games, when it's over, my

02:42:41.979 --> 02:42:44.760
body's all cracked out. I'm like, yeah. It's

02:42:44.760 --> 02:42:47.479
the same with beer pong. Beer pong I can play

02:42:47.479 --> 02:42:50.440
forever. Yeah, it's fun, right? It's a physical

02:42:50.440 --> 02:42:53.059
thing you're doing. Yeah, like pool is a very,

02:42:53.139 --> 02:42:56.360
it's a physical, mental thing that you're doing,

02:42:56.379 --> 02:42:58.809
but. There's something about video games that

02:42:58.809 --> 02:43:02.329
just stimulate your brain at high revs. Your

02:43:02.329 --> 02:43:05.690
first -person shooters and rocket launchers,

02:43:05.709 --> 02:43:07.569
and you're running around the map, and you hear

02:43:07.569 --> 02:43:09.530
the guy behind you, and you're ducking this way

02:43:09.530 --> 02:43:11.329
and jumping down and running, trying to get to

02:43:11.329 --> 02:43:14.809
health. It's just so stimulating. Yeah, it's

02:43:14.809 --> 02:43:17.549
right in your fucking face. Yeah, and the visuals

02:43:17.549 --> 02:43:20.010
are so insane now. The graphics are incredible.

02:43:20.430 --> 02:43:26.809
Why do you think that VR isn't as big as... it

02:43:26.809 --> 02:43:31.649
was planned to be. I don't think you can force

02:43:31.649 --> 02:43:34.590
anything on people. I think you, I don't think

02:43:34.590 --> 02:43:36.590
you can like have some big marketing campaign

02:43:36.590 --> 02:43:38.690
and get people into something. You just have

02:43:38.690 --> 02:43:41.010
to show that you have a product and find out

02:43:41.010 --> 02:43:42.590
how many people are interested in that product.

02:43:42.670 --> 02:43:46.829
Right. I mean, promote it for sure. I don't think

02:43:46.829 --> 02:43:48.350
people want to wear that thing in their head.

02:43:48.530 --> 02:43:50.549
No, sir. And they also don't want to be, like,

02:43:50.549 --> 02:43:52.590
stuck in a house not knowing what's actually

02:43:52.590 --> 02:43:54.690
out there. Oh, and, like, tripping over your

02:43:54.690 --> 02:43:56.770
dog. Bumping the walls, stepping on your cat.

02:43:57.090 --> 02:44:00.010
You know, like, you're just walking around there.

02:44:00.229 --> 02:44:02.209
I think my baby tripped me on purpose the other

02:44:02.209 --> 02:44:07.209
day I was playing. My friend Matt Serra, he plays

02:44:07.209 --> 02:44:10.129
a bunch of different games with VR. And, like,

02:44:10.229 --> 02:44:12.850
he had people over his house, and he was yelling

02:44:12.850 --> 02:44:14.450
and screaming in the other room. And his wife

02:44:14.450 --> 02:44:15.729
had to come and tell him, just shut the fuck

02:44:15.729 --> 02:44:18.159
up. We have Gus. Yeah, we have Gus. And he's

02:44:18.159 --> 02:44:20.459
got this fucking helmet on and he's screaming

02:44:20.459 --> 02:44:24.840
and doing some wacky first -person shooter. In

02:44:24.840 --> 02:44:27.600
VR? Yeah, in VR. I like to imagine that's what,

02:44:27.700 --> 02:44:30.639
you hear stories about Prince's parties and how

02:44:30.639 --> 02:44:32.559
he'd have people over to his house but never

02:44:32.559 --> 02:44:35.479
see them, very like Great Gatsby style. Oh, really?

02:44:35.479 --> 02:44:37.479
And he would just buy like McDonald's fries for

02:44:37.479 --> 02:44:39.879
everybody and be like, check in on the intercom

02:44:39.879 --> 02:44:42.680
and be like. I hope everybody's having fun. That's

02:44:42.680 --> 02:44:45.799
so weird. That's so weird. I like to imagine

02:44:45.799 --> 02:44:47.920
he had the first VR headset and he was just up

02:44:47.920 --> 02:44:49.860
in the fucking room cussing and yelling like

02:44:49.860 --> 02:44:55.819
that. That's so weird. I mean, at the end of

02:44:55.819 --> 02:45:01.059
the day, right, if you are exuberantly successful

02:45:01.059 --> 02:45:06.479
and you have that wealth, I can only imagine

02:45:06.479 --> 02:45:10.489
what some of these... billionaire parties are

02:45:10.489 --> 02:45:13.049
like, you never see the fucker that throws it.

02:45:13.329 --> 02:45:15.530
He's like, oh, I bought this house for this party.

02:45:15.709 --> 02:45:17.969
I don't want to hang out with any of you motherfuckers.

02:45:17.969 --> 02:45:21.229
I just want to show you that I can do this. You

02:45:21.229 --> 02:45:23.270
know what I mean? And how much joy does that

02:45:23.270 --> 02:45:26.870
bring you? You know what I mean? It's weird.

02:45:27.129 --> 02:45:30.729
Well, I've never been. I've never been to a billionaire's

02:45:30.729 --> 02:45:32.649
party. I've never been to a billionaire's party

02:45:32.649 --> 02:45:35.170
either. Dana's got to be getting up there, I

02:45:35.170 --> 02:45:37.909
know. Yeah, he's close. He's probably worth half.

02:45:38.409 --> 02:45:40.870
Or more. Maybe even more than that. I don't know.

02:45:40.909 --> 02:45:42.129
I don't know what his finances are, but he's

02:45:42.129 --> 02:45:44.370
very wealthy. Wait, he doesn't tell you verbatim?

02:45:44.370 --> 02:45:45.889
He doesn't send you tax statements? I called

02:45:45.889 --> 02:45:48.170
him up the other day. He didn't respond. I asked

02:45:48.170 --> 02:45:50.709
him about his tax returns. He is at a party.

02:45:50.809 --> 02:45:53.270
But I know he fucking gambles a shitload, man.

02:45:53.430 --> 02:45:56.709
He loves it. But that's his thing. He fucking

02:45:56.709 --> 02:45:58.569
loves it. And he's good at it. He wins a lot.

02:45:59.729 --> 02:46:04.870
He loves it. That's his fun. He likes gambling.

02:46:04.930 --> 02:46:07.700
He likes gambling high stakes. For me... I'm

02:46:07.700 --> 02:46:13.500
not that rich, but I've been lucky enough to

02:46:13.500 --> 02:46:17.700
experience wealth. You know what I mean? And

02:46:17.700 --> 02:46:23.520
be able to enjoy nicer stuff. Yeah. Going to

02:46:23.520 --> 02:46:30.879
Vegas, at a certain point doing what you do,

02:46:31.059 --> 02:46:36.500
we talked about getting like... you want to find,

02:46:36.620 --> 02:46:40.059
it's kind of like a rush. It's like you play

02:46:40.059 --> 02:46:44.079
for that kind of rush. It's like, so you, if

02:46:44.079 --> 02:46:48.020
you play, like I go and I play like $5 hands

02:46:48.020 --> 02:46:50.559
with my buddies and stuff. But whenever, you

02:46:50.559 --> 02:46:52.479
know, all my friends leave and stuff, I want

02:46:52.479 --> 02:46:55.540
to go and I want to do like, I want to play like

02:46:55.540 --> 02:46:59.700
$40 ,000 and spread it out across and I want

02:46:59.700 --> 02:47:02.600
to play. You know what I mean? Because it's so

02:47:02.600 --> 02:47:08.950
hard to get. excited about five bucks sure right

02:47:08.950 --> 02:47:11.250
you know what i mean and that's how they fucking

02:47:11.250 --> 02:47:15.370
get you they really play to that And they're

02:47:15.370 --> 02:47:18.489
like, oh, you're hot shit. Okay, come play. Come

02:47:18.489 --> 02:47:20.469
play. We would love to play with you. And then

02:47:20.469 --> 02:47:23.989
you want to feel that. You want your nuts to

02:47:23.989 --> 02:47:26.729
fucking tingle. And you want to be like, oh,

02:47:26.790 --> 02:47:29.290
man, I need an extra chair for my nuts, man.

02:47:29.489 --> 02:47:31.409
And then you want to let it all fucking ride

02:47:31.409 --> 02:47:34.309
out. I get it. I was watching it. I was watching

02:47:34.309 --> 02:47:37.909
them bet $60 ,000 a hand. And my hands got clammy.

02:47:37.969 --> 02:47:40.829
I was like, this is wild. But whenever you win

02:47:40.829 --> 02:47:45.260
that. That rush is like fucking nothing else.

02:47:45.379 --> 02:47:48.440
I don't gamble anymore. I went to Vegas recently.

02:47:48.479 --> 02:47:51.860
I lost a fuck ton of money. And somehow my Vegas

02:47:51.860 --> 02:47:55.319
trips always end up with me on the foot of my

02:47:55.319 --> 02:47:57.559
bed. And I'm like, oh, fuck, dude. What an idiot.

02:47:58.280 --> 02:48:00.959
What a fucking asshole. I play blackjack. Yeah?

02:48:01.100 --> 02:48:04.159
Yeah. Are you a risk taker? Are you a hit on

02:48:04.159 --> 02:48:09.649
17 kind of guy? No, not 17. 16 is... You know,

02:48:09.670 --> 02:48:11.610
people are like, oh, you got to stay on the 16.

02:48:11.729 --> 02:48:13.690
But you want to let it ride sometimes. I don't

02:48:13.690 --> 02:48:17.309
know. I usually let a 16 ride. I usually just

02:48:17.309 --> 02:48:21.030
let it go because I'm like, there's no way. God

02:48:21.030 --> 02:48:23.090
is either really fucking funny and he's like.

02:48:24.590 --> 02:48:26.850
Because whenever I hit, I always bust. And then

02:48:26.850 --> 02:48:30.129
the next time they'll flip over. A five. Yeah.

02:48:30.549 --> 02:48:35.909
And it's just like, it's a cosmic joke. But it's

02:48:35.909 --> 02:48:38.750
so much fun. It's too much fun. That's the problem.

02:48:38.750 --> 02:48:40.290
Exactly. That's why I don't go play. It's this

02:48:40.290 --> 02:48:43.989
weird artificial hijacking of your human reward

02:48:43.989 --> 02:48:49.270
system. It puts you in this position where you

02:48:49.270 --> 02:48:52.450
can choose the amount of threat and danger and

02:48:52.450 --> 02:48:57.430
the amount of victory. You can choose. what to

02:48:57.430 --> 02:49:00.270
engage in that's dangerous but it doesn't have

02:49:00.270 --> 02:49:02.409
any physical consequences just you just lose

02:49:02.409 --> 02:49:05.409
money yeah like that's my yeah that's my doing

02:49:05.409 --> 02:49:08.889
fucking pull -ups on the fucking building that

02:49:08.889 --> 02:49:14.229
is too tall it's ungodly it's ungodly that's

02:49:14.229 --> 02:49:16.469
exactly what it's like it's that same kind of

02:49:16.469 --> 02:49:18.549
rush i think of doing a very dangerous thing

02:49:18.549 --> 02:49:21.690
like a wild thing but i think it's good now i

02:49:21.690 --> 02:49:30.590
don't know like You see all the deals in the

02:49:30.590 --> 02:49:34.489
casino like, hey, you can talk to me. You know

02:49:34.489 --> 02:49:38.110
what I mean? Like if you have a problem, you

02:49:38.110 --> 02:49:41.010
know, like if you want to reach out and talk

02:49:41.010 --> 02:49:44.270
to somebody about how much you gamble, there's

02:49:44.270 --> 02:49:48.190
all these pamphlets and brochures and I'm like.

02:49:49.079 --> 02:49:51.719
I've never met anyone who's had to call one or

02:49:51.719 --> 02:49:54.620
never called one, but I don't know. I think that's

02:49:54.620 --> 02:49:57.219
a good thing, and I don't know how helpful they

02:49:57.219 --> 02:50:01.040
are. Probably very not. Unless they have a bag

02:50:01.040 --> 02:50:04.979
of mushrooms for you. Unless they have a fat

02:50:04.979 --> 02:50:06.579
bag of mushrooms. You know what? I'd actually

02:50:06.579 --> 02:50:08.399
rather go do some fucking mushrooms. And you

02:50:08.399 --> 02:50:11.399
guys go in the forest and you find out why you're

02:50:11.399 --> 02:50:13.059
into gambling. Yeah, exactly. That's what it

02:50:13.059 --> 02:50:14.920
is. Exactly. Then you break it all fucking down.

02:50:15.159 --> 02:50:17.319
And then you'll stop gambling. Yeah, man. It's

02:50:17.319 --> 02:50:19.360
so stupid. I don't gamble anymore. I haven't

02:50:19.360 --> 02:50:23.219
been to Vegas in like three days. I haven't been

02:50:23.219 --> 02:50:26.680
to Vegas in like fucking four days. I very, very,

02:50:26.680 --> 02:50:29.379
very rarely gamble. I was there once for a show

02:50:29.379 --> 02:50:30.639
that a friend of mine was doing. I was riding

02:50:30.639 --> 02:50:32.379
with my wife. We played a little bit of blackjack.

02:50:32.620 --> 02:50:34.340
We played for like an hour. I was like, this

02:50:34.340 --> 02:50:36.420
is kind of stupid. Let's get out of here. It's

02:50:36.420 --> 02:50:39.600
just I get it. I get the rush. I don't want to

02:50:39.600 --> 02:50:41.639
be a part of it. I don't have any time. It's

02:50:41.639 --> 02:50:43.940
not worth it anymore. It's not worth it anymore.

02:50:44.340 --> 02:50:47.799
I got no time for that. Have you since moving

02:50:47.799 --> 02:50:50.979
to this new building? I had a thought, Papa.

02:50:51.139 --> 02:50:56.780
Have you experienced any hauntings? I am so glad

02:50:56.780 --> 02:51:00.079
you brought that up. See, I can read him. I knew

02:51:00.079 --> 02:51:02.379
it. It's not about this building, but it's about

02:51:02.379 --> 02:51:05.899
where my club is. Okay. My club, I bought the

02:51:05.899 --> 02:51:08.659
Ritz Theater, which is an ancient theater, well,

02:51:09.059 --> 02:51:10.819
an old theater, historic theater. It's like 2

02:51:10.819 --> 02:51:16.139
,000 years old. It's 1927. So it's been a pool

02:51:16.139 --> 02:51:20.700
hall. It was like a nudie bar or a nudie movie

02:51:20.700 --> 02:51:24.719
theater. It was a rock and roll club. Jimi Hendrix

02:51:24.719 --> 02:51:27.360
performed there. There's a photo as you're getting

02:51:27.360 --> 02:51:29.700
towards the stage. It's a framed photo of Hendrix.

02:51:29.700 --> 02:51:32.440
Not Hendrix, excuse me. Stevie Ray Vaughan. Stevie

02:51:32.440 --> 02:51:36.680
Ray Vaughan on that stage in 1983. Oh, dude.

02:51:36.959 --> 02:51:39.659
It's my favorite. He's like my favorite. I fucking

02:51:39.659 --> 02:51:40.819
love him. He's the best guitar player of all

02:51:40.819 --> 02:51:44.719
time. Except for Brad Paisley. And Hendrix. Hendrix

02:51:44.719 --> 02:51:47.299
is good. Oh, how dare you. I know. I'm so sorry.

02:51:47.399 --> 02:51:49.819
He's the pioneer now. I know. I know. The shit

02:51:49.819 --> 02:51:52.219
that he did with sound. But I guess I'm more

02:51:52.219 --> 02:51:57.879
of a control guy when it comes to tone. His tone

02:51:57.879 --> 02:52:01.059
was impeccable. But I don't know. Control is

02:52:01.059 --> 02:52:04.799
super. Watching those, like Pat Metheny and like...

02:52:05.680 --> 02:52:08.100
Eric Johnson and shit. Watch it. Sorry to go

02:52:08.100 --> 02:52:09.979
off. No, no. Please, I want to hear it. Because

02:52:09.979 --> 02:52:12.920
I agree. Steve Ray Vaughan was a master. There's

02:52:12.920 --> 02:52:14.840
no ifs, ands, or buts about it. He was amazing.

02:52:15.120 --> 02:52:18.420
The point is there's a photo of him as you're

02:52:18.420 --> 02:52:20.100
walking towards the stage. Him on that stage

02:52:20.100 --> 02:52:26.280
in 1983. And someone apparently, I need to find

02:52:26.280 --> 02:52:30.579
this out. Google murder at the Ritz Theater.

02:52:32.120 --> 02:52:35.719
Because people that know the building. are now

02:52:35.719 --> 02:52:38.899
telling me that at one point in time someone

02:52:38.899 --> 02:52:42.680
was murdered there on the second floor. Supposedly.

02:52:43.280 --> 02:52:46.440
I haven't even looked it up. But I am bringing

02:52:46.440 --> 02:52:51.040
in ghost hunters. To the building? Yes. Who?

02:52:51.379 --> 02:52:54.370
Sam and Colby. Those guys on YouTube. I've had

02:52:54.370 --> 02:52:57.750
them on the podcast before. They're kids. Well,

02:52:57.870 --> 02:52:59.690
they're your age. Yes, sir. They go to these

02:52:59.690 --> 02:53:02.010
houses. I called you a kid. You're a big old

02:53:02.010 --> 02:53:04.069
beard. You're a man, son. I've been working.

02:53:04.149 --> 02:53:06.809
It took me fucking 28 years to grow this goddammit

02:53:06.809 --> 02:53:08.690
joke. That's a serious fucking man beard, son.

02:53:08.809 --> 02:53:10.329
Thank you, sir. That's a real beard. I'm waiting

02:53:10.329 --> 02:53:12.250
for it to close up and then we're good. But I'm

02:53:12.250 --> 02:53:13.510
going to have these guys bring in their equipment

02:53:13.510 --> 02:53:16.229
and go in there late at night and see what they

02:53:16.229 --> 02:53:19.149
find. I haven't had anybody say that they've

02:53:19.149 --> 02:53:21.700
had. anything weird happened nothing but the

02:53:21.700 --> 02:53:24.399
building feels like it knows you're there it's

02:53:24.399 --> 02:53:29.059
like charged well it's old i think i think that

02:53:29.059 --> 02:53:31.879
things contain memories i think that's why people

02:53:31.879 --> 02:53:33.620
don't want to buy a house or someone was murdered

02:53:33.620 --> 02:53:36.979
in it it's a stone tape theory i just showed

02:53:36.979 --> 02:53:39.719
you a theory give me it no i mean it's just like

02:53:39.719 --> 02:53:45.780
it's just that that shit imprints with energy

02:53:45.780 --> 02:53:49.540
and history and i think that i think that's totally

02:53:49.540 --> 02:53:52.899
true i mean you can walk into a place you walk

02:53:52.899 --> 02:53:55.979
into a new house and it feels empty as fuck yeah

02:53:55.979 --> 02:53:58.319
but you walk into an old house and you're like

02:53:58.319 --> 02:54:03.520
yeah and that could just be you know this is

02:54:03.520 --> 02:54:05.459
an old house fuck there's got to be some history

02:54:05.459 --> 02:54:07.940
here this is a new house there's no history here

02:54:07.940 --> 02:54:12.520
this is completely blake slade but it it's you

02:54:12.520 --> 02:54:15.219
feel it you feel it you're like there's some

02:54:15.219 --> 02:54:17.840
shit that happened here whether good or bad or

02:54:17.840 --> 02:54:20.280
just families and families that had a natural

02:54:20.280 --> 02:54:24.520
family progression or a fucking house where uh

02:54:24.520 --> 02:54:28.040
the daughter whatever murdered everybody with

02:54:28.040 --> 02:54:32.559
an axe whatever you know but there's always i

02:54:32.559 --> 02:54:35.700
don't know you feel shit it's it's totally possible

02:54:35.700 --> 02:54:38.399
things contain some kind of memory or some kind

02:54:38.399 --> 02:54:44.180
of feeling to them That's one of the interesting

02:54:44.180 --> 02:54:47.680
things about when you're in the woods is the

02:54:47.680 --> 02:54:51.379
indifference that you feel. You feel nature's

02:54:51.379 --> 02:54:53.940
indifference to you. That's one of the more humbling

02:54:53.940 --> 02:54:56.420
things. That makes people feel uneasy. Very uneasy.

02:54:56.680 --> 02:55:01.319
But it's also because you stepped into a world.

02:55:02.090 --> 02:55:04.809
That is just tooth and claw. Fucking eat you

02:55:04.809 --> 02:55:06.709
alive. Yeah, and they're eating things around

02:55:06.709 --> 02:55:09.930
you all the time. That's exactly how population

02:55:09.930 --> 02:55:12.389
is controlled. There's predators around you all

02:55:12.389 --> 02:55:15.909
the time. Eyes front. Yeah, eyes front. And there's

02:55:15.909 --> 02:55:18.149
an indifference. When you're in the mountains,

02:55:18.250 --> 02:55:19.950
there's this feeling of indifference that the

02:55:19.950 --> 02:55:23.030
mountains have to you that's very humbling. It's

02:55:23.030 --> 02:55:26.370
very centering. Dude, going to Utah and seeing

02:55:26.370 --> 02:55:28.909
the mountains, I'm like, fuck, dude. I'm a fucking...

02:55:29.370 --> 02:55:31.469
I'm a bug. Yeah, you're a bug. In the grand scheme

02:55:31.469 --> 02:55:33.690
of fucking everything. In the grand scheme of

02:55:33.690 --> 02:55:38.370
the universe, I'm an amoeba. Yeah. I'm so fucking

02:55:38.370 --> 02:55:41.549
small. And try and be fucking as cool as you

02:55:41.549 --> 02:55:43.989
fucking can to people. Be nice. Yeah, you have

02:55:43.989 --> 02:55:46.569
control over that. Exactly. That's the only thing

02:55:46.569 --> 02:55:48.569
you have control over is how you treat other

02:55:48.569 --> 02:55:51.639
people. It's the only thing. Yeah. And how you

02:55:51.639 --> 02:55:54.520
treat yourself. That's a big one too. Like some

02:55:54.520 --> 02:55:56.780
people, they treat other people so well and then

02:55:56.780 --> 02:55:58.299
they get someone in their life that really shouldn't

02:55:58.299 --> 02:56:00.059
be in their life and it's ruining it and they

02:56:00.059 --> 02:56:02.819
don't treat themselves well by extracting themselves

02:56:02.819 --> 02:56:08.090
from the situation. Yeah. There's that too. But

02:56:08.090 --> 02:56:11.190
those mountains, the woods, the mountains, it

02:56:11.190 --> 02:56:13.170
is, it's just like, fuck, it makes you think

02:56:13.170 --> 02:56:15.750
about that shit. That's why you see like, you

02:56:15.750 --> 02:56:18.649
know, like the tale of the fucking hermit that

02:56:18.649 --> 02:56:20.989
is the smartest person you'll ever fucking meet,

02:56:21.030 --> 02:56:23.909
but never sees anyone. You know what I mean?

02:56:24.909 --> 02:56:28.190
It's just like, it's so. There's a beauty to

02:56:28.190 --> 02:56:31.200
that. that part of the world especially mountains

02:56:31.200 --> 02:56:33.719
for some reason there's a beauty like when the

02:56:33.719 --> 02:56:36.159
sun is coming up and the sun is shining through

02:56:36.159 --> 02:56:38.559
the trees and you see the the green pastures

02:56:38.559 --> 02:56:41.079
and you just you look at it and you go my god

02:56:41.079 --> 02:56:44.280
this is beautiful it's like a feeling that you

02:56:44.280 --> 02:56:48.379
have it's not like any other art form it's nature's

02:56:48.379 --> 02:56:50.760
art form but it has the same kind of feeling

02:56:50.760 --> 02:56:53.440
when you see like a beautiful piece of art there's

02:56:53.440 --> 02:56:55.719
this feeling of appreciation that people have

02:56:55.719 --> 02:56:58.979
for things that are beautiful And I think it's

02:56:58.979 --> 02:57:01.959
one of the only creatures on Earth that probably

02:57:01.959 --> 02:57:07.459
has that. I don't think we have any other animals

02:57:07.459 --> 02:57:09.559
on this Earth that appreciate beauty the way

02:57:09.559 --> 02:57:15.879
we do. It gives us a feeling. We stare at it.

02:57:15.940 --> 02:57:19.840
We're entranced by it. We're entranced by beauty,

02:57:20.020 --> 02:57:22.860
physical beauty, people that are beautiful, things

02:57:22.860 --> 02:57:25.700
that are beautiful, art that's beautiful. We

02:57:25.700 --> 02:57:30.840
have this... massive fascination with beautiful

02:57:30.840 --> 02:57:34.579
things. And when you see the beauty of nature,

02:57:34.739 --> 02:57:36.799
it's the most humbling of all of them. The stars

02:57:36.799 --> 02:57:38.520
are the most humbling of all of them. It's crazy.

02:57:38.559 --> 02:57:42.180
I hate space. You hate it? I hate space. I hate

02:57:42.180 --> 02:57:44.520
the stars. I hate everything. I know. That's

02:57:44.520 --> 02:57:46.520
the fucking worst part. That's the part that

02:57:46.520 --> 02:57:49.440
scares me. That's the part that scares me. You

02:57:49.440 --> 02:58:00.139
look at all... The near misses and all that shit.

02:58:00.340 --> 02:58:03.479
Who knows if it's even real? The part that scares

02:58:03.479 --> 02:58:09.780
me is we know nothing about it. There's one company,

02:58:11.620 --> 02:58:14.319
or not company, but one organization that knows

02:58:14.319 --> 02:58:17.540
about it. We don't really know about it. You

02:58:17.540 --> 02:58:19.879
mean in terms of asteroids in space? Yeah, or

02:58:19.879 --> 02:58:24.299
like NASA. NASA knows about it. We don't know

02:58:24.299 --> 02:58:29.040
about it. We go off of what they tell us. And

02:58:29.040 --> 02:58:31.780
I think that's the scariest fucking part. And

02:58:31.780 --> 02:58:34.819
I look at a star or it might be Mercury or it

02:58:34.819 --> 02:58:37.700
might be fucking Mars or whatever. And it's so

02:58:37.700 --> 02:58:39.940
bright. And I'm like, oh, fuck, it's over. Okay,

02:58:40.000 --> 02:58:41.879
fuck. And then I look at it for a little bit.

02:58:44.979 --> 02:58:48.100
For a couple minutes. And I'm like, okay, it's

02:58:48.100 --> 02:58:52.360
not moving. We're good. It's scary. That scares

02:58:52.360 --> 02:58:57.600
me. I remember. The whole 2012 deal. Oh, December

02:58:57.600 --> 02:59:00.399
21st, 2012. I was in high school on the whole

02:59:00.399 --> 02:59:05.719
2012 deal. And I went to church for two weeks

02:59:05.719 --> 02:59:08.260
right before because I was licking into all that

02:59:08.260 --> 02:59:10.079
shit. And I was like, you know what? I'm going

02:59:10.079 --> 02:59:15.760
to church just in case that it fucking happens.

02:59:15.840 --> 02:59:18.219
Just in case. And I remember the day I was in

02:59:18.219 --> 02:59:21.819
school and it was December 21st, 2012. And it

02:59:21.819 --> 02:59:24.100
started raining crazy. And I was like, fuck.

02:59:24.630 --> 02:59:27.950
It's happening. Yo, fuck, dude. Oh, my God. Fuck,

02:59:27.969 --> 02:59:30.590
dude. But hey, I'm still here. We're still here.

02:59:30.729 --> 02:59:33.690
Yeah, I was surprised by that one. I thought

02:59:33.690 --> 02:59:35.250
something was going to happen. Did you buy into

02:59:35.250 --> 02:59:37.129
it? Oh, yeah. I had a license plate on my car.

02:59:37.370 --> 02:59:41.510
It said, I think it said December 2021. That

02:59:41.510 --> 02:59:47.950
was my license plate. DEC 2021. Yeah. Or 2012.

02:59:47.969 --> 02:59:49.909
What did you think was going to happen? Is there

02:59:49.909 --> 02:59:56.120
a DEC 20? 21 or DEC 2012. I think it was 2012.

02:59:57.260 --> 03:00:00.540
What did you think was going to happen? How old

03:00:00.540 --> 03:00:06.139
were you? How old was I in 2001? I guess I was

03:00:06.139 --> 03:00:09.319
probably like 31 or 2 or something like that.

03:00:09.459 --> 03:00:13.979
How old was I? I don't know. Jamie, how old was

03:00:13.979 --> 03:00:18.629
Joe Rogan in 2012? Well, I'd have to think. That's

03:00:18.629 --> 03:00:22.170
11 years ago. There you go. No, no, no, no. 2012.

03:00:22.690 --> 03:00:26.829
No, yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. Is it weird? I'm thinking

03:00:26.829 --> 03:00:29.930
of 2001, because 2001 was another one. Oh, yeah,

03:00:30.010 --> 03:00:31.930
yeah, yeah. Or 2000, Y2K. Y2K, yeah, yeah, yeah.

03:00:31.930 --> 03:00:33.469
I got confused, because that, no, no, no. Let

03:00:33.469 --> 03:00:37.950
me back up. December 21st, 2012 was the one that

03:00:37.950 --> 03:00:39.670
was the end of the Mayan calendar. That was the

03:00:39.670 --> 03:00:41.329
long calendar. I bought into that. So I think

03:00:41.329 --> 03:00:46.629
it was DEC 2012 was my last display. But I was

03:00:46.629 --> 03:00:50.170
really worried. Even more so about the one in

03:00:50.170 --> 03:00:53.469
2000, the Y2K one. That was a weird one where

03:00:53.469 --> 03:00:54.829
people thought that all the clocks were going

03:00:54.829 --> 03:00:56.430
to stop and all the computers won't work. Well,

03:00:56.450 --> 03:00:58.889
how do they justify that? They were saying that

03:00:58.889 --> 03:01:01.450
the programs, the computer programs that were

03:01:01.450 --> 03:01:03.750
running everything. They would switch to twos?

03:01:03.850 --> 03:01:08.010
Well, it's when it goes from 19s to twos. Right.

03:01:08.129 --> 03:01:10.110
The whole thing, apparently they were worried

03:01:10.110 --> 03:01:12.250
that it was going to, like, have this ripple

03:01:12.250 --> 03:01:14.309
effect across the country and the stock market

03:01:14.309 --> 03:01:16.969
would crash and banks would dissolve. Like, wild

03:01:16.969 --> 03:01:18.829
shit would happen. The fucking power grid would

03:01:18.829 --> 03:01:21.649
go down. It was mostly bullshit. But everybody

03:01:21.649 --> 03:01:24.370
was terrified. And me, too. I was on the phone

03:01:24.370 --> 03:01:27.149
with a friend of mine from New York. Like, dude,

03:01:27.329 --> 03:01:28.670
you know, we're going to ride this out together.

03:01:29.770 --> 03:01:31.790
And then, you know, we were drinking. I'm getting

03:01:31.790 --> 03:01:34.530
into archery. We were on the phone. He was drinking

03:01:34.530 --> 03:01:37.430
in New York and I was drinking in California

03:01:37.430 --> 03:01:39.649
while we were talking on the phone. We talked

03:01:39.649 --> 03:01:41.629
for like three hours. And then they ain't shit

03:01:41.629 --> 03:01:44.409
happening, man. Everything still works. Fucking

03:01:44.409 --> 03:01:47.170
internet works. Computers work. TV works. Everything's

03:01:47.170 --> 03:01:50.690
fine. Well, I don't understand the logic. I don't

03:01:50.690 --> 03:01:52.829
get it either. I don't get the logic. But I was,

03:01:52.870 --> 03:01:57.370
because I was 95, so I was like five reading

03:01:57.370 --> 03:02:00.860
about. I would see the paper on the counter and

03:02:00.860 --> 03:02:03.760
it'd be like, oh, Y2K, everything's fucking ending.

03:02:03.959 --> 03:02:06.340
Yeah. And I was like, oh, my fucking God, Mom,

03:02:06.500 --> 03:02:08.639
everything's fucking ending, all this shit. But

03:02:08.639 --> 03:02:10.780
then you look back and it's like, well, why would

03:02:10.780 --> 03:02:16.680
the year changing over affect computers? Like

03:02:16.680 --> 03:02:18.500
why would it change the way they were coded there?

03:02:18.540 --> 03:02:21.340
It's very primitive coding when they first started

03:02:21.340 --> 03:02:24.079
the the the computers that run the power grids

03:02:24.079 --> 03:02:26.639
and all this It's all zero and ones though. I

03:02:26.639 --> 03:02:28.200
don't understand it man. You're talking to the

03:02:28.200 --> 03:02:31.059
wrong dude me fucking too, but from my perspective

03:02:31.059 --> 03:02:33.799
I'm like it's all zero and ones why would just

03:02:33.799 --> 03:02:36.860
cuz just cuz you have the app that says not an

03:02:36.860 --> 03:02:40.540
app but Jamie explain to us Explanation but it's

03:02:40.540 --> 03:02:43.600
I mean you're on it. It's just other countries

03:02:43.600 --> 03:02:45.260
didn't do it, which I didn't know that. They

03:02:45.260 --> 03:02:46.879
didn't have any precautions? They didn't talk

03:02:46.879 --> 03:02:49.079
about Y2K? No, they talked about it. Everyone

03:02:49.079 --> 03:02:50.399
talked about this. But they didn't do anything

03:02:50.399 --> 03:02:53.459
to deal with it. It's probably a scam. That's

03:02:53.459 --> 03:02:56.159
what it sounds like to me. It's monkey pox, bro.

03:02:56.260 --> 03:02:58.319
Because it doesn't make sense. It's literally

03:02:58.319 --> 03:03:01.700
a fucking widget. It's a fucking widget on your

03:03:01.700 --> 03:03:03.639
fucking computer that tells you what year it

03:03:03.639 --> 03:03:07.680
is. Yeah. The smartest people in the world couldn't

03:03:07.680 --> 03:03:09.899
be like, well, we didn't change any of the fucking

03:03:09.899 --> 03:03:13.899
code. On the fucking computer, why would it fuck

03:03:13.899 --> 03:03:16.700
anything up just because the widget says that

03:03:16.700 --> 03:03:20.500
it's 2000? Yeah. What they were saying, I guess,

03:03:20.559 --> 03:03:24.020
further up, that power plants, for instance,

03:03:24.159 --> 03:03:27.459
have a whole bunch of automated things, and those

03:03:27.459 --> 03:03:31.159
were in threat. That's it. But for what? Just

03:03:31.159 --> 03:03:34.000
take the date out of it. It's zeros and ones.

03:03:34.139 --> 03:03:37.840
It's zeros and ones. It still is. You're so smart.

03:03:37.860 --> 03:03:39.459
You should work for them. That's true. Because

03:03:39.459 --> 03:03:41.620
they scared us all. I wonder if it was all bullshit

03:03:41.620 --> 03:03:43.540
and they just wanted a reason why they could

03:03:43.540 --> 03:03:47.260
be. It has to be. I wouldn't be shocked if it

03:03:47.260 --> 03:03:49.860
was just something to sell newspapers and the

03:03:49.860 --> 03:03:51.959
media pumped it up and made it a big thing and

03:03:51.959 --> 03:03:53.940
talked to the biggest fear mongers and got everybody

03:03:53.940 --> 03:03:56.889
fucking terrified of it. It has to be. Because

03:03:56.889 --> 03:03:59.510
then I was so scared. But now I'm like, why?

03:03:59.649 --> 03:04:01.930
It doesn't even make any sense. So December 21st,

03:04:01.930 --> 03:04:04.469
2012, I thought something was going to happen.

03:04:04.510 --> 03:04:08.469
And maybe something did. Maybe in the greater

03:04:08.469 --> 03:04:11.850
scheme of time, as we look back on the changing

03:04:11.850 --> 03:04:14.750
of the eras of humanity, maybe that's when we

03:04:14.750 --> 03:04:18.450
began our cultural slide. Joe, I think about

03:04:18.450 --> 03:04:21.750
that a lot. It might be a thing where, like...

03:04:22.459 --> 03:04:25.579
Like ancient civilizations have calculated, they

03:04:25.579 --> 03:04:28.780
sort of charted out the eras of civilizations

03:04:28.780 --> 03:04:31.379
and that civilizations would go through these

03:04:31.379 --> 03:04:33.760
periods and then they would have these rebuildings

03:04:33.760 --> 03:04:35.979
and then they'd get soft and fall apart. And

03:04:35.979 --> 03:04:39.700
then there's that 400 year cycle. Yeah. The Kali

03:04:39.700 --> 03:04:41.739
Yuga. And that's where we're at now. The age

03:04:41.739 --> 03:04:45.540
of confusion. It seems like. That makes sense

03:04:45.540 --> 03:04:48.120
to me. It seems like when you have people that

03:04:48.120 --> 03:04:49.719
are like the World War II guys with the fucking

03:04:49.719 --> 03:04:52.540
guns on acid, it's a different breed of human.

03:04:52.819 --> 03:04:55.620
Right. Those trench warfare guys, that's a different

03:04:55.620 --> 03:04:57.840
breed of human being. Naughty boys just fucking

03:04:57.840 --> 03:05:01.219
smoking cigarettes in the fucking trenches and

03:05:01.219 --> 03:05:03.659
like, if I see a motherfucker, I'm stabbing him.

03:05:03.840 --> 03:05:08.239
Yeah. It's crazy. Crazy. Just living your life

03:05:08.239 --> 03:05:10.639
like that. But now war's not even like that.

03:05:11.209 --> 03:05:14.750
Well, it is in Ukraine. Well, now it's fucking

03:05:14.750 --> 03:05:17.409
drones. Yeah, but there's a lot of fucking actual

03:05:17.409 --> 03:05:20.190
gunfights in Ukraine that you can watch on Telegram

03:05:20.190 --> 03:05:22.629
now. The crazy thing is the guns they're using.

03:05:23.909 --> 03:05:28.670
The guns they're using are like World War II

03:05:28.670 --> 03:05:32.729
guns, and they had a gun that was electronically

03:05:32.729 --> 03:05:38.969
operated that they soldered on a trigger. grip

03:05:38.969 --> 03:05:41.950
to and a stock on so they could use that gun

03:05:41.950 --> 03:05:45.250
like it's just crazy the resources that they're

03:05:45.250 --> 03:05:49.870
using right now and it's it's really really fucking

03:05:49.870 --> 03:05:53.329
it's just scary that there's a ground war it's

03:05:53.329 --> 03:05:55.969
going on right now between two countries that

03:05:55.969 --> 03:05:58.530
used to be a part of the same union it's fucking

03:05:58.530 --> 03:06:02.200
scary it's crazy because I think when people

03:06:02.200 --> 03:06:04.620
get through wars, when they get through like

03:06:04.620 --> 03:06:06.600
a civilization gets through an era, they have

03:06:06.600 --> 03:06:10.639
this feeling like a lesson was learned. I don't

03:06:10.639 --> 03:06:12.840
think we learn our lessons, especially when there's

03:06:12.840 --> 03:06:15.180
a lot of money involved in continuing the same

03:06:15.180 --> 03:06:17.930
kind of behavior. And I think that's where we

03:06:17.930 --> 03:06:20.069
find ourselves right now. And that's where the

03:06:20.069 --> 03:06:21.829
people that are very alarmed by this and they're

03:06:21.829 --> 03:06:23.610
really scared by this. I think they're right.

03:06:23.870 --> 03:06:26.850
This is the time to be very alarmed because it

03:06:26.850 --> 03:06:29.969
just seems people are way too casual about wanting

03:06:29.969 --> 03:06:33.729
this to happen and wanting us to fund this and

03:06:33.729 --> 03:06:37.450
beat Russia and all this whole craziness of war.

03:06:38.250 --> 03:06:42.170
It's so complicated, too, with the U .N. and

03:06:42.170 --> 03:06:47.139
NATO. It's so complicated. All of it is like

03:06:47.139 --> 03:06:50.360
there's so much going on. Well, they're trying

03:06:50.360 --> 03:06:53.260
to play Magic the fucking Gathering in the fucking

03:06:53.260 --> 03:06:56.420
world with real fucking people. Right. And this

03:06:56.420 --> 03:07:00.479
doesn't just affect Ukraine or Russia. This affects

03:07:00.479 --> 03:07:04.879
everything. If they start nuking each other,

03:07:05.000 --> 03:07:08.159
oh, my God. It's over. Joe, it's over. Oh, my

03:07:08.159 --> 03:07:12.639
God. It's over. Oh, my God. It's one nuke. It's

03:07:12.639 --> 03:07:15.440
over. Yeah. One nuke, it's over. And the nukes

03:07:15.440 --> 03:07:18.659
that we have today, we saw what they did to Hiroshima

03:07:18.659 --> 03:07:21.760
and Nagasaki. Those are a fraction of the power

03:07:21.760 --> 03:07:24.780
that they have now. These things are obliterators.

03:07:24.819 --> 03:07:28.260
Not only a fraction of the power, but the amount

03:07:28.260 --> 03:07:31.639
that we have in this fucking world today. And

03:07:31.639 --> 03:07:34.510
they have supersonic missiles now. They have

03:07:34.510 --> 03:07:36.750
supersonic missiles that can change direction.

03:07:36.750 --> 03:07:39.290
So they're going towards Miami and they hook

03:07:39.290 --> 03:07:42.389
a left. Well, yeah, and then the fucking Poseidon,

03:07:42.389 --> 03:07:46.090
too. The Poseidon missile will cause a tsunami.

03:07:46.690 --> 03:07:50.510
Jesus Christ. They'll shoot a missile that'll

03:07:50.510 --> 03:07:55.430
fucking... The B -83, the largest deployed U

03:07:55.430 --> 03:07:59.290
.S. nuclear warhead, is equivalent to 80 Hiroshima

03:07:59.290 --> 03:08:03.479
-sized bombs. 80. Holy fuck. That shit is crazy.

03:08:03.940 --> 03:08:07.139
You can see if you hold your hand up. Look at

03:08:07.139 --> 03:08:09.940
that number. The U .S. nuclear arsenal has 5

03:08:09.940 --> 03:08:15.979
,244 nuclear weapons, had a total yield of 857

03:08:15.979 --> 03:08:23.639
.6 megatons, or the equivalent of 57 ,173 Hiroshima

03:08:23.639 --> 03:08:27.399
-sized bombs. By the way, that's like half of

03:08:27.399 --> 03:08:32.149
the explosion on Mars. Allegedly. Allegedly.

03:08:32.149 --> 03:08:34.870
Imagine if that's what happened. Imagine if one

03:08:34.870 --> 03:08:37.649
dude invaded. Can you look up the Poseidon missile,

03:08:37.889 --> 03:08:40.790
Jamie, please? Could you imagine if that is what

03:08:40.790 --> 03:08:44.489
we find out about Mars? How crazy would that

03:08:44.489 --> 03:08:46.389
be? And maybe that's why the aliens visit us.

03:08:46.549 --> 03:08:48.850
How crazy would that be? To warn us or whatever?

03:08:48.950 --> 03:08:50.569
To try to halt it. I think already. The Russian

03:08:50.569 --> 03:08:53.750
one or? I don't know if it's Russian or Chinese,

03:08:53.889 --> 03:08:59.270
but. It says it's real. A Poseidon. Poseidon

03:08:59.270 --> 03:09:01.870
may exist only as a... What is it? Okay, so while

03:09:01.870 --> 03:09:05.809
some reports claim that Russia's Poseidon missile

03:09:05.809 --> 03:09:09.530
may exist only as a propaganda scheme, experts

03:09:09.530 --> 03:09:11.850
generally agree that the system is very real

03:09:11.850 --> 03:09:14.469
and has received significant resources from the

03:09:14.469 --> 03:09:16.889
Russian armed forces, although many details remain

03:09:16.889 --> 03:09:20.469
unknown. So yeah, dude, if they decide to vaporize...

03:09:20.469 --> 03:09:24.850
It's a U .S. Navy nuclear -armed submarine -launched

03:09:24.850 --> 03:09:28.700
ballistic missile system. I don't know. What

03:09:28.700 --> 03:09:32.299
is that? That's Wikipedia. I was trying to see

03:09:32.299 --> 03:09:34.040
which one. I think they're probably talking about

03:09:34.040 --> 03:09:42.780
this one. It shoots a wave out. Wow. Intercontinental

03:09:42.780 --> 03:09:45.760
U .S. Or intercontinental nuclear power, nuclear

03:09:45.760 --> 03:09:48.780
arm system, autonomous torpedo. It's very slow,

03:09:48.860 --> 03:09:51.139
but it's possibly unstoppable. I don't like how

03:09:51.139 --> 03:09:54.239
that's in bold. Possibly unstoppable. Anything

03:09:54.239 --> 03:09:57.360
in bold is bad. As much as they lie to us, I

03:09:57.360 --> 03:10:00.139
think that's probably 100 % unstoppable. Russia

03:10:00.139 --> 03:10:02.340
maintains that it can be used as a tactical nuclear

03:10:02.340 --> 03:10:04.600
weapon against warships. High -value targets

03:10:04.600 --> 03:10:06.819
would include aircraft carriers. This is harder

03:10:06.819 --> 03:10:09.260
to rationalize than the second -strike nuclear

03:10:09.260 --> 03:10:12.930
deterrence role, but is a constant theme. It's

03:10:12.930 --> 03:10:15.409
first revealed in November 2015, then known as

03:10:15.409 --> 03:10:18.450
Status 6. It's been described as a multi -role

03:10:18.450 --> 03:10:22.309
system. That's a scary Status 6? What the fuck

03:10:22.309 --> 03:10:24.709
does that mean? Dude, there's people out there

03:10:24.709 --> 03:10:26.350
playing. You just said it right. There's people

03:10:26.350 --> 03:10:28.770
out there playing Magic the Gathering with real

03:10:28.770 --> 03:10:33.069
human beings. That's what war is, man. And that's

03:10:33.069 --> 03:10:35.450
the weird thing about war in this age where people

03:10:35.450 --> 03:10:37.850
are starting, we're more connected now than we've

03:10:37.850 --> 03:10:40.149
ever been before. And so we realize, like, it

03:10:40.149 --> 03:10:42.209
doesn't make any sense that we're being led by

03:10:42.209 --> 03:10:46.110
these leaders that have us fighting over territorial

03:10:46.110 --> 03:10:48.989
swaths of land and control of resources. It doesn't

03:10:48.989 --> 03:10:50.610
make sense. Or just like my religion's right,

03:10:50.709 --> 03:10:54.200
yours is not. I'm right, you're wrong. We're

03:10:54.200 --> 03:10:56.840
going to fuck everything up or try to. As the

03:10:56.840 --> 03:11:00.159
world becomes more globally oriented and realizing

03:11:00.159 --> 03:11:03.459
that there's just people. There's people in India.

03:11:03.520 --> 03:11:04.940
There's just people in China. There's people

03:11:04.940 --> 03:11:06.979
in Russia. The problem is who they're led by.

03:11:07.159 --> 03:11:10.379
And when they lead you into this position and

03:11:10.379 --> 03:11:12.860
control the population to a position where they

03:11:12.860 --> 03:11:15.219
can't do anything other than the will of the

03:11:15.219 --> 03:11:16.680
leaders. Yeah, I'll take one. Thank you. Yes,

03:11:16.719 --> 03:11:25.860
sir. that I see moving forward is that people

03:11:25.860 --> 03:11:28.639
think about the world as one place now more.

03:11:29.260 --> 03:11:32.059
I don't think people are as nationally centric

03:11:32.059 --> 03:11:33.540
as they used to be. We're paying attention to

03:11:33.540 --> 03:11:35.180
shit that's going on in Australia. We're paying

03:11:35.180 --> 03:11:36.819
attention to shit that's going on in Hong Kong.

03:11:37.399 --> 03:11:39.579
People are really paying attention to the world

03:11:39.579 --> 03:11:43.500
now that I don't think they did as much in the

03:11:43.500 --> 03:11:45.979
1950s or the 1960s. I think with the internet,

03:11:46.100 --> 03:11:48.600
I think people are very tuned in to all kinds

03:11:48.600 --> 03:11:51.899
of weird shit that's happening everywhere. And

03:11:51.899 --> 03:11:54.600
that's an interesting thing because, I don't

03:11:54.600 --> 03:12:00.700
know, would you ever consider living in another

03:12:00.700 --> 03:12:04.420
country? I would have said Canada up until recently.

03:12:04.659 --> 03:12:08.360
Now Canada's fucking... falling apart. All the

03:12:08.360 --> 03:12:10.719
shit that they did during COVID was just the

03:12:10.719 --> 03:12:14.979
total wrong direction. The trucker convoy when

03:12:14.979 --> 03:12:16.620
they froze people's bank assets. You can't make

03:12:16.620 --> 03:12:20.420
honking your horns illegal. Bro, they froze people's

03:12:20.420 --> 03:12:23.399
bank accounts that donated money to the convoy.

03:12:23.540 --> 03:12:29.559
That's crazy. That's crazy. Peaceful protest,

03:12:29.680 --> 03:12:32.340
which everybody's supposed to be all about. These

03:12:32.340 --> 03:12:35.200
people that were protesting COVID vaccine mandates.

03:12:36.280 --> 03:12:41.500
the lockdowns and they they fucking went after

03:12:41.500 --> 03:12:45.239
the people that donated which is crazy yeah and

03:12:45.239 --> 03:12:48.040
you can track all that shit yeah well they track

03:12:48.040 --> 03:12:50.360
everything shut their bank accounts that's crazy

03:12:50.360 --> 03:12:53.540
man that's but i fucking a piece of toast that

03:12:53.540 --> 03:12:57.170
makes people self -censor And that's the terrifying

03:12:57.170 --> 03:12:59.670
aspect of that. And that's the thing that people

03:12:59.670 --> 03:13:01.750
won't say. It's not that big of a deal. They

03:13:01.750 --> 03:13:03.069
gave him their bank accounts back eventually.

03:13:03.690 --> 03:13:07.030
Eventually? What does that even fucking mean?

03:13:07.049 --> 03:13:08.889
What does that mean? It's sending a very clear

03:13:08.889 --> 03:13:12.170
message that they can fuck with you in ways that

03:13:12.170 --> 03:13:14.129
you probably hadn't thought about before. They

03:13:14.129 --> 03:13:16.030
can fuck with your money. They can close your

03:13:16.030 --> 03:13:17.309
bank down. Never even thought about it. Never

03:13:17.309 --> 03:13:21.010
even thought about it. So how do you feel about

03:13:21.010 --> 03:13:25.170
the government's... Digital currency that they're

03:13:25.170 --> 03:13:27.850
working on. No fucking way. No way. That's what

03:13:27.850 --> 03:13:29.829
I think. I think that's checkmate. That's game

03:13:29.829 --> 03:13:32.030
over. That is fucking checkmate. Because if they

03:13:32.030 --> 03:13:34.629
apply that to a social credit score, if they

03:13:34.629 --> 03:13:37.010
decide somehow or another that you need some

03:13:37.010 --> 03:13:39.409
social credit score system for the benefit of

03:13:39.409 --> 03:13:42.229
society, and they outline that they can track

03:13:42.229 --> 03:13:44.809
your behavior and your tweets and all your things,

03:13:44.829 --> 03:13:49.010
you get a score. Already doing that. They just

03:13:49.010 --> 03:13:51.170
haven't released the fucking report cards. They

03:13:51.170 --> 03:13:55.409
didn't send the report cards home to the parents

03:13:55.409 --> 03:14:00.280
yet. Everything is already imprinted. Everything

03:14:00.280 --> 03:14:02.739
is already tracked. Everything is already there.

03:14:03.020 --> 03:14:04.979
We just haven't given a denomination to it. They

03:14:04.979 --> 03:14:06.700
just can't control you to the same extent that

03:14:06.700 --> 03:14:08.399
they would like. And what they would like to

03:14:08.399 --> 03:14:11.440
do is to be able to strip you of your money and

03:14:11.440 --> 03:14:12.940
to be able to lock you down and then make sure

03:14:12.940 --> 03:14:15.319
that you comply so that all the other people

03:14:15.319 --> 03:14:17.260
also comply because they don't want to be stripped

03:14:17.260 --> 03:14:19.100
of their money. They don't want everything they

03:14:19.100 --> 03:14:21.799
work for just be taken away instantly overnight

03:14:21.799 --> 03:14:24.260
and be powerless. No one to call. No one's going

03:14:24.260 --> 03:14:26.579
to answer your phone. They just decide. you fucked

03:14:26.579 --> 03:14:29.100
up and the rules are the rules and so then where

03:14:29.100 --> 03:14:31.139
does that money go who takes your money who takes

03:14:31.139 --> 03:14:33.459
and that that's what thing when people start

03:14:33.459 --> 03:14:37.159
profiting off of confiscating people's digital

03:14:37.159 --> 03:14:40.639
currency it's going to be a real fucking problem

03:14:41.239 --> 03:14:44.479
Well, it's not all fucking currency is digital.

03:14:44.940 --> 03:14:48.459
Yeah, but the idea of them controlling all of

03:14:48.459 --> 03:14:50.940
the money. And it's all unilateral. It's all

03:14:50.940 --> 03:14:52.700
the same fucking thing. It's all the same fucking

03:14:52.700 --> 03:14:56.559
thing. That's a problem. And here's the problem,

03:14:56.799 --> 03:15:00.579
I think, is that people are going to do it due

03:15:00.579 --> 03:15:03.659
to convenience of it. Yeah. No one wants to carry

03:15:03.659 --> 03:15:07.520
around cash anymore. Cash is gone. No one wants

03:15:07.520 --> 03:15:09.719
to carry around cash anymore. I saw a video of

03:15:09.719 --> 03:15:11.840
a lady paying for her groceries with her fingerprint

03:15:11.840 --> 03:15:15.440
at Whole Foods. Can I see this? Yeah, she used

03:15:15.440 --> 03:15:18.459
her handprint. You can do it here. You can do

03:15:18.459 --> 03:15:20.899
it here? You got it? Wait, Amazon controls it.

03:15:21.879 --> 03:15:24.639
With your hand? Yeah, I've seen it at the cash

03:15:24.639 --> 03:15:26.600
out here. I didn't do it. You just walk up, your

03:15:26.600 --> 03:15:28.620
hand hovers over this thing, it takes a photo

03:15:28.620 --> 03:15:36.879
of your hand, and you pay. Why? Why? Why? Why?

03:15:37.639 --> 03:15:40.200
People want their handprint in a database just

03:15:40.200 --> 03:15:43.260
in case they murder somebody. This is crazy!

03:15:43.620 --> 03:15:48.200
This is crazy. One scan does it all. Amazon One

03:15:48.200 --> 03:15:51.139
simplifies everyday interactions. It's a free

03:15:51.139 --> 03:15:54.020
contactless service that lets you use your palm

03:15:54.020 --> 03:15:58.399
to pay, enter, or identify yourself. Wow. You

03:15:58.399 --> 03:16:01.280
remember it was microchips. Yeah. So now you

03:16:01.280 --> 03:16:03.280
don't even need a fucking microchip. You can

03:16:03.280 --> 03:16:05.780
just fucking use your, just fucking, you can

03:16:05.780 --> 03:16:07.479
use your pube hairs. They had a store in Ohio

03:16:07.479 --> 03:16:09.459
where you just, you don't, I don't think you

03:16:09.459 --> 03:16:11.000
leave with stuff, but you just tell them what

03:16:11.000 --> 03:16:13.629
you want and then they just send it to you. The

03:16:13.629 --> 03:16:15.729
Amazon store. Well, now they have like honor

03:16:15.729 --> 03:16:20.149
system stuff in airports and stuff. Really? Where

03:16:20.149 --> 03:16:23.790
it's like you go and you pick up what you get

03:16:23.790 --> 03:16:27.809
and then you leave the money. You swipe your

03:16:27.809 --> 03:16:29.809
card, all this shit. There's no employees in

03:16:29.809 --> 03:16:31.750
the whole store. That's crazy. It's a little

03:16:31.750 --> 03:16:33.950
kiosk. You go pick up your chips. You pick up

03:16:33.950 --> 03:16:35.649
your drink. You pick up whatever you get. They're

03:16:35.649 --> 03:16:36.909
just hoping people don't steal. Your sandwich?

03:16:36.989 --> 03:16:40.420
Yep. Wow. That seems like it's not going to work

03:16:40.420 --> 03:16:43.100
out. I don't know. I don't know how these are

03:16:43.100 --> 03:16:45.399
working. Probably better to pay someone $15 an

03:16:45.399 --> 03:16:46.639
hour or stand there and make sure you don't steal.

03:16:46.639 --> 03:16:49.100
Just one guy. Just one guy at least. One guy.

03:16:49.219 --> 03:16:52.059
But now I guess you can't – and I understand

03:16:52.059 --> 03:16:54.579
it completely because what if the employee gets

03:16:54.579 --> 03:16:58.459
hurt or what if someone gets hurt in a situation?

03:16:58.459 --> 03:17:01.899
But shoplifting is huge because now all these

03:17:01.899 --> 03:17:04.559
companies have policies to where it's like –

03:17:05.229 --> 03:17:08.010
Yeah. If anything happens, you don't even say

03:17:08.010 --> 03:17:09.750
anything to the guy stealing. You're not even

03:17:09.750 --> 03:17:14.149
allowed to stop them. People get fired for trying

03:17:14.149 --> 03:17:16.010
to stop them. Don't even say like, hey, dude,

03:17:16.090 --> 03:17:17.989
don't fucking steal. I see what's in your fucking

03:17:17.989 --> 03:17:20.829
shirt. Don't even do that. Wasn't there a story

03:17:20.829 --> 03:17:23.290
recently where a woman got beat up and then they

03:17:23.290 --> 03:17:25.750
fired her because she was trying to stop the

03:17:25.750 --> 03:17:30.870
shoplifters? I mean, it's all a liability thing.

03:17:30.989 --> 03:17:33.870
It's a liability issue to where it's like that

03:17:33.870 --> 03:17:37.260
comes. The company doesn't want to be liable.

03:17:39.040 --> 03:17:42.440
68 -year -old woman has her job back after she

03:17:42.440 --> 03:17:45.680
was fired. Public outrage works. After she was

03:17:45.680 --> 03:17:48.059
fired last month for attempting to stop shoplifters

03:17:48.059 --> 03:17:51.000
at a Lowe's store in Georgia. June 25th, three

03:17:51.000 --> 03:17:53.420
suspects loaded over $2 ,000 worth of merchandise

03:17:53.420 --> 03:17:56.280
into a shopping cart, left Lowe's store without

03:17:56.280 --> 03:17:58.420
paying, police said. And I think she tried to

03:17:58.420 --> 03:18:01.219
stop them. I think they beat her up, too. which

03:18:01.219 --> 03:18:04.040
is even sadder. 68 -year -old lady. Yeah, these

03:18:04.040 --> 03:18:06.280
guys are such pieces of shit. They beat up an

03:18:06.280 --> 03:18:09.000
old lady, and then that lady got fired. That's

03:18:09.000 --> 03:18:11.700
crazy. I'm happy she got her job back. Me too,

03:18:11.780 --> 03:18:14.079
but she probably doesn't want it. I don't want

03:18:14.079 --> 03:18:16.559
to work at Lowe's anymore. I want to work at

03:18:16.559 --> 03:18:19.000
corporate. God damn it. It'd probably be better

03:18:19.000 --> 03:18:21.620
if they sued her or if she sued them, right?

03:18:21.739 --> 03:18:23.659
She would have got a nice fat payday. That's

03:18:23.659 --> 03:18:26.440
ridiculous. Suing is getting crazy too. But in

03:18:26.440 --> 03:18:29.719
that situation, I'm kind of on her side. Look,

03:18:29.940 --> 03:18:33.379
I know it's not even your shit. I know it's not

03:18:33.379 --> 03:18:37.579
your shit. But you have, I don't know, if you

03:18:37.579 --> 03:18:43.639
enjoy your job or what you do just a little bit,

03:18:43.659 --> 03:18:46.020
if you have friends at the store, if you have

03:18:46.020 --> 03:18:49.659
anything, it's like, you don't got to take that

03:18:49.659 --> 03:18:52.200
shit. Like, don't take that shit. I know it's

03:18:52.200 --> 03:18:55.440
not my shit. I know it's, you know, the big head

03:18:55.440 --> 03:19:00.020
shit. Right. But it's like you you have an inclination

03:19:00.020 --> 03:19:02.100
to kind of like protect it. It's kind of like

03:19:02.100 --> 03:19:05.920
you you do this every day It's every day. It

03:19:05.920 --> 03:19:07.360
used to be someone would always stop someone

03:19:07.360 --> 03:19:09.260
from shoplifting There's always security guard

03:19:09.260 --> 03:19:12.059
at a store to keep people from shoplifting was

03:19:12.059 --> 03:19:15.239
normal now people just run in in large groups

03:19:15.239 --> 03:19:18.379
and they just snatch everything and smash glass

03:19:18.379 --> 03:19:21.180
and steal all those fucking watches and everyone

03:19:21.180 --> 03:19:25.799
I just You walk out You can't do that because

03:19:25.799 --> 03:19:28.420
it literally encourages crime because there's

03:19:28.420 --> 03:19:32.059
very little repercussions. Yeah. It's crazy that

03:19:32.059 --> 03:19:35.000
people are going with that. It's just, you know,

03:19:35.000 --> 03:19:37.139
if you wanted to be a full on conspiracy theorist,

03:19:37.139 --> 03:19:39.239
you would say this is someone trying to destabilize

03:19:39.239 --> 03:19:41.180
society. And that's the way to do it. The way

03:19:41.180 --> 03:19:43.780
to destabilize society is make things as lawless

03:19:43.780 --> 03:19:46.899
as possible. And then people will do whatever

03:19:46.899 --> 03:19:50.700
they need to do in order to bring back some semblance

03:19:50.700 --> 03:19:53.649
of normalcy. What do I have to do? What rights

03:19:53.649 --> 03:19:55.350
do I have to give up? What do I have to give

03:19:55.350 --> 03:19:57.790
up? I'll do it. Well, you've got to submit to

03:19:57.790 --> 03:20:04.569
the one world currency. For real. If you wanted

03:20:04.569 --> 03:20:06.750
to look at a long -term engineering project,

03:20:09.110 --> 03:20:12.129
if you had enough resources and you were clever

03:20:12.129 --> 03:20:14.389
enough and you planned this out enough, you could

03:20:14.389 --> 03:20:18.469
engineer the downfall of a society. And you would

03:20:18.469 --> 03:20:25.569
do it by... infecting the universities and entrenching

03:20:25.569 --> 03:20:28.030
them in a ridiculous, unsupportable ideology

03:20:28.030 --> 03:20:30.770
and then have people go out in the world with

03:20:30.770 --> 03:20:33.590
that ideology and think this is a rational way

03:20:33.590 --> 03:20:37.010
to live life and to run the world. And then while

03:20:37.010 --> 03:20:39.790
you're doing that, you're also setting it up

03:20:39.790 --> 03:20:44.489
so that you have less people get arrested for

03:20:44.489 --> 03:20:46.670
things, more people get released from prison

03:20:46.670 --> 03:20:48.969
for things. There would be a bunch of different

03:20:48.969 --> 03:20:52.270
ways that you could destabilize society. But

03:20:52.270 --> 03:20:54.409
one of the best ones would be to encourage crime.

03:20:54.690 --> 03:20:56.350
If you wanted to somehow or another encourage

03:20:56.350 --> 03:20:59.290
– you could do it under the guise of making it

03:20:59.290 --> 03:21:01.350
more fair for all these people that get arrested,

03:21:01.510 --> 03:21:04.790
making it more fair for – nobody wants to be

03:21:04.790 --> 03:21:08.069
racist. You just say it's racial injustice and

03:21:08.069 --> 03:21:10.670
just let more violent criminals out onto the

03:21:10.670 --> 03:21:12.590
street if you wanted to destabilize society.

03:21:13.110 --> 03:21:15.729
It's not saying that prison reform isn't – hugely

03:21:15.729 --> 03:21:18.969
necessary it is for sure they need to do a way

03:21:18.969 --> 03:21:20.909
better job of trying to rehabilitate people as

03:21:20.909 --> 03:21:22.690
well instead of just incarcerating fuck yeah

03:21:22.690 --> 03:21:26.670
but letting people out that are violent criminals

03:21:26.670 --> 03:21:29.870
seems like what i would do if i was trying to

03:21:29.870 --> 03:21:33.290
destabilize society i think an easier way here's

03:21:33.290 --> 03:21:35.069
what i would do what would you do if you were

03:21:35.069 --> 03:21:39.290
an evil dictator i would i would just say i would

03:21:39.290 --> 03:21:41.090
just shed everybody's shit down and say it was

03:21:41.090 --> 03:21:45.479
an attack from another country If New York or

03:21:45.479 --> 03:21:49.520
L .A. collapses, the rest of the world follows

03:21:49.520 --> 03:21:55.020
suit. So we talk about a lot. Only like fucking

03:21:55.020 --> 03:21:58.159
3 % of your money is actually real. The rest

03:21:58.159 --> 03:22:00.760
is fucking a digital number. And we saw it with

03:22:00.760 --> 03:22:04.319
the banks collapsing, all these. And then they

03:22:04.319 --> 03:22:07.639
get bought up by bigger banks. But the payout

03:22:07.639 --> 03:22:11.379
is $250 ,000. You're insured. Your money is insured.

03:22:11.639 --> 03:22:14.500
You could have a billion dollars in this bank.

03:22:15.020 --> 03:22:19.079
You're paid out $250 ,000. And then where did

03:22:19.079 --> 03:22:21.360
the rest of that money go? Where the fuck did

03:22:21.360 --> 03:22:24.340
it go? All you need to say is if someone goes

03:22:24.340 --> 03:22:27.739
in or someone tries to order Postmates on their

03:22:27.739 --> 03:22:32.500
phone, just say, your card's... actually not

03:22:32.500 --> 03:22:34.700
working. Your card's been declined. Everyone's

03:22:34.700 --> 03:22:36.860
cards get declined at the same fucking time.

03:22:36.920 --> 03:22:38.940
People are going to fucking cannibalize themselves

03:22:38.940 --> 03:22:42.500
within a week. Yeah. And just say it's not, I

03:22:42.500 --> 03:22:44.520
don't, we don't know who's doing it, but this

03:22:44.520 --> 03:22:48.219
was an outside attack. Yeah. All it takes is,

03:22:48.280 --> 03:22:53.180
because everything is so digital now. It takes

03:22:53.180 --> 03:22:55.719
– just like you mentioned in Canada where they're

03:22:55.719 --> 03:22:58.860
like, OK, people who donated to these guys are

03:22:58.860 --> 03:23:00.879
getting their bank accounts shut off. Imagine

03:23:00.879 --> 03:23:04.559
that happened to an entire major city. Yeah.

03:23:05.959 --> 03:23:07.760
Well, have you ever looked into how vulnerable

03:23:07.760 --> 03:23:09.780
– It would be anarchy everywhere. Have you ever

03:23:09.780 --> 03:23:11.600
looked into how vulnerable the power grid is?

03:23:12.700 --> 03:23:16.559
I know how vulnerable it is because in Utah,

03:23:16.899 --> 03:23:21.469
not even the power grid, but for internet. So

03:23:21.469 --> 03:23:25.590
and a disgruntled employee took an axe to a box

03:23:25.590 --> 03:23:30.110
and shut down the whole fucking place is fucking

03:23:30.110 --> 03:23:33.030
like my whole entire side. I live in Cottonwood

03:23:33.030 --> 03:23:38.729
Heights in Utah. And the whole shit went out

03:23:38.729 --> 03:23:42.450
because some guy was just mad and he just took

03:23:42.450 --> 03:23:46.750
a fucking axe to a box. That's crazy. And shut

03:23:46.750 --> 03:23:50.000
everybody's Internet off. And it sucks. It sucks

03:23:50.000 --> 03:23:51.879
because I like internet. I like having internet.

03:23:52.020 --> 03:23:54.420
I got to watch the fucking Joe Rogan experience.

03:23:56.319 --> 03:24:00.920
Wow. It's that vulnerable. It's crazy that he

03:24:00.920 --> 03:24:03.379
knew how to do it and not get electrocuted. If

03:24:03.379 --> 03:24:06.799
you had a box and it's filled with wires and

03:24:06.799 --> 03:24:08.719
you got an axe, wouldn't you assume you're going

03:24:08.719 --> 03:24:10.780
to die? I don't know how it goes. I don't know

03:24:10.780 --> 03:24:15.329
how it goes either. All I know is I didn't have

03:24:15.329 --> 03:24:22.010
fucking Wi -Fi for fucking four days. Do you

03:24:22.010 --> 03:24:24.690
think Wi -Fi is bad for you? I don't know. That's

03:24:24.690 --> 03:24:27.530
a good question. I remember, oh, COVID's caused

03:24:27.530 --> 03:24:33.129
by Wi -Fi, all this shit. 5G. 5G, yeah. But I

03:24:33.129 --> 03:24:35.409
don't know. What is interesting is seeing those

03:24:35.409 --> 03:24:38.870
little boxes pop up around everywhere. disguised

03:24:38.870 --> 03:24:41.250
as palm trees in California and just kind of

03:24:41.250 --> 03:24:43.610
scattered around in New York. The cell phone

03:24:43.610 --> 03:24:46.610
towers? I don't know. Are they cell phone towers?

03:24:46.829 --> 03:24:50.209
Yeah. They look like fake trees. Yeah. They have

03:24:50.209 --> 03:24:52.629
these little square things on them or these rectangular

03:24:52.629 --> 03:24:57.969
things on them. But smaller, deployable variants

03:24:57.969 --> 03:25:00.889
of it, I guess. Because how big is a cell phone

03:25:00.889 --> 03:25:03.219
tower? It's big. They're pretty big. I think

03:25:03.219 --> 03:25:05.139
they probably vary in size, too, though. There's

03:25:05.139 --> 03:25:07.579
probably a lot of other things if it's dealing

03:25:07.579 --> 03:25:09.559
with a lot of... You know what's really crazy

03:25:09.559 --> 03:25:11.799
about cell phones? If you're in a place where

03:25:11.799 --> 03:25:13.100
too many people are using them, yours doesn't

03:25:13.100 --> 03:25:14.879
work. Yeah. You ever experience that? At the

03:25:14.879 --> 03:25:17.319
concerts, they don't work. That's wild. That

03:25:17.319 --> 03:25:19.299
is wild. Why is it? Because there's not enough

03:25:19.299 --> 03:25:21.219
juice for everybody. They're kind of overselling.

03:25:21.379 --> 03:25:22.799
Not enough bandwidth. Yeah. They're overselling.

03:25:24.619 --> 03:25:27.840
Are we running out of bandwidth? Well, if you

03:25:27.840 --> 03:25:31.219
have a concert and you have 20 ,000 people in

03:25:31.219 --> 03:25:33.799
an arena and you try to get on your phone, like

03:25:33.799 --> 03:25:36.379
I experience it at the UFC all the time. I can't

03:25:36.379 --> 03:25:38.360
get text messages. They just don't come through.

03:25:38.960 --> 03:25:41.760
Sometimes. It depends on the place. Even if you're

03:25:41.760 --> 03:25:44.760
on the venue Wi -Fi or whatever. You'd have to

03:25:44.760 --> 03:25:46.440
get on the venue Wi -Fi, then you'd probably

03:25:46.440 --> 03:25:48.860
be okay. But when you're just trying to use straight

03:25:48.860 --> 03:25:50.579
cellular, a lot of times those places, there's

03:25:50.579 --> 03:25:51.979
just too many people on the lawn. But still,

03:25:52.020 --> 03:25:54.180
I notice how it works before everybody comes

03:25:54.180 --> 03:25:56.739
to the shows and I'm taking a shit. And it works

03:25:56.739 --> 03:25:58.680
fine. And it works great. And then when everybody

03:25:58.680 --> 03:26:01.319
comes and I'm still on the Wi -Fi and I got to

03:26:01.319 --> 03:26:03.079
shit before the show because I don't want to

03:26:03.079 --> 03:26:06.329
shit my pants on stage. It doesn't work as well.

03:26:07.430 --> 03:26:11.489
Joe, I got to turn one real quick. Yeah. Do you

03:26:11.489 --> 03:26:12.829
want to wrap this up, man? We've been going for

03:26:12.829 --> 03:26:15.389
like three hours. I'm good to go whenever you

03:26:15.389 --> 03:26:18.170
want. Shall we wrap it up? Sure. How long are

03:26:18.170 --> 03:26:21.450
we going, Jamie? Three and a half hours. I'll

03:26:21.450 --> 03:26:22.930
let you get the fuck out of here. I'm having

03:26:22.930 --> 03:26:24.409
a great time. You want to keep going? I would

03:26:24.409 --> 03:26:25.549
love to. All right, let's keep going. I would

03:26:25.549 --> 03:26:26.950
love to. We'll pee and come back. All right.

03:26:27.049 --> 03:26:33.209
Yay. I'm having a great fucking time. I am too.

03:26:34.040 --> 03:26:37.459
I always had the best fucking time. Look, I got

03:26:37.459 --> 03:26:40.639
the greatest job in the world. This is one of

03:26:40.639 --> 03:26:42.000
the best ones. Just to be able to hang out with

03:26:42.000 --> 03:26:45.219
people. I don't think a lot of people... do this

03:26:45.219 --> 03:26:47.840
anymore where they just hang out and talk everybody

03:26:47.840 --> 03:26:49.559
hangs out and talks and looks at their phone

03:26:49.559 --> 03:26:51.799
hangs out and talks and talks to someone else

03:26:51.799 --> 03:26:55.239
but it's an interesting when you just hang out

03:26:55.239 --> 03:26:57.420
and just talk to someone for hours at a time

03:26:57.420 --> 03:26:59.780
you really get to see like how they think and

03:26:59.780 --> 03:27:03.180
see how they and it's just it's nice it's a fun

03:27:03.180 --> 03:27:07.840
thing to do man I enjoy the shit out of it well

03:27:07.840 --> 03:27:10.059
I enjoy being on your show I enjoy having you

03:27:10.059 --> 03:27:13.579
and I enjoy you have been so fucking kind to

03:27:13.579 --> 03:27:17.200
me This is my second time. How many second timers

03:27:17.200 --> 03:27:19.819
you got? Quite a few. Cool. Yeah. Well, I want

03:27:19.819 --> 03:27:22.920
to go for three. Bro, you can come on every month.

03:27:23.139 --> 03:27:24.540
I don't give a fuck. I'm actually sleeping in

03:27:24.540 --> 03:27:27.020
a mattress in the back of a... Come hang out.

03:27:27.379 --> 03:27:29.799
Park that tour bus out back. We're good, dude.

03:27:29.959 --> 03:27:31.559
Yeah, thank you for letting me park that. Oh,

03:27:31.559 --> 03:27:33.340
anytime. It's dope. I love that you have a tour

03:27:33.340 --> 03:27:35.379
bus. It's actually... And it doesn't have Bert

03:27:35.379 --> 03:27:37.899
Kreischer's face on it. Who's that? Inside joke.

03:27:40.280 --> 03:27:42.559
My friend Bert Kreischer. He's got a tour bus

03:27:42.559 --> 03:27:46.659
with his face on it. It's very discreet. He's

03:27:46.659 --> 03:27:50.280
a discreet kind of guy. Yeah, I don't know. Funny

03:27:50.280 --> 03:27:54.340
dude. It's amazing because I was on... Sorry,

03:27:54.399 --> 03:27:56.159
Travis, if you don't want me talking about this.

03:27:56.700 --> 03:28:01.860
But I've been on Travis Barker's tour bus for

03:28:01.860 --> 03:28:08.120
a long time. And now I'm on... She's an artist

03:28:08.120 --> 03:28:13.620
and she let me use her tour bus this time. And

03:28:13.620 --> 03:28:16.479
the difference between a dude's tour bus and

03:28:16.479 --> 03:28:20.540
a lady's tour bus is like fucking night and day.

03:28:21.780 --> 03:28:24.280
I remember the first time I got on the tour bus,

03:28:24.360 --> 03:28:30.200
Travis's tour bus. And I go and lay back. It

03:28:30.200 --> 03:28:33.040
was after the first show. Because I went and

03:28:33.040 --> 03:28:34.780
checked it out before. And I was like, oh, this

03:28:34.780 --> 03:28:38.020
is really nice. And then I go back the first

03:28:38.020 --> 03:28:41.739
day. or after the first show and go lay down

03:28:41.739 --> 03:28:44.719
and then I close the door it's all like on the

03:28:44.719 --> 03:28:47.659
hydraulic doors and so it closes and there's

03:28:47.659 --> 03:28:50.040
a mirror on the door and there's a picture here

03:28:50.040 --> 03:28:54.899
and it looks like a guy like laying down like

03:28:54.899 --> 03:28:59.260
a mermaid like a mermaid pose kind of like kind

03:28:59.260 --> 03:29:02.959
of like this looking back on the bed and I get

03:29:02.959 --> 03:29:14.729
up and I'm like what the fuck is that and Get

03:29:14.729 --> 03:29:18.659
up. And I get up and I look closer and it's Tommy

03:29:18.659 --> 03:29:22.260
Lee butt ass naked on the bed. And he says, enjoy

03:29:22.260 --> 03:29:25.520
the bus, fucker. And I'm like, yo, this is fucking

03:29:25.520 --> 03:29:28.219
crazy. So that's how I kicked off a couple of

03:29:28.219 --> 03:29:30.959
my tours. That's hilarious. But not on this bus.

03:29:31.159 --> 03:29:34.040
Like the fridge is like pink and like works and

03:29:34.040 --> 03:29:36.500
everything. Travis, your bus is absolutely beautiful.

03:29:36.760 --> 03:29:40.079
But yeah, it's nice. It's nice. And for whenever

03:29:40.079 --> 03:29:43.479
the baby and the lady are on the bus, there's

03:29:43.479 --> 03:29:47.579
like a nice vanity mirror out back. My only fear

03:29:47.579 --> 03:29:50.659
of buses is that you're on the highway. Yeah.

03:29:50.780 --> 03:29:53.780
And I see too many fucking accident videos. It's

03:29:53.780 --> 03:29:56.120
fucking scary. It's easy to flip those fuckers.

03:29:56.219 --> 03:30:00.520
Yeah. I watched this crazy video the other day

03:30:00.520 --> 03:30:06.280
of this car, rear ends this car, and they stop

03:30:06.280 --> 03:30:11.299
in traffic. And then this semi rear ends them.

03:30:11.579 --> 03:30:13.920
It can't stop, and it's trying to change lanes

03:30:13.920 --> 03:30:15.860
because these guys bumped into each other on

03:30:15.860 --> 03:30:18.799
the highway. They decided to stop. And then this

03:30:18.799 --> 03:30:21.579
semi comes through and obliterates them. I'm

03:30:21.579 --> 03:30:27.200
like, Jesus. It's so heavy. It's so big. It's

03:30:27.200 --> 03:30:30.120
so much weight and force. When you watch the

03:30:30.120 --> 03:30:33.139
semi hit the cars, the cars just disintegrate.

03:30:33.219 --> 03:30:38.620
It is. It's a big vehicle. It's so massive. And

03:30:38.620 --> 03:30:40.639
then it goes flipping off this fucking side of

03:30:40.639 --> 03:30:43.959
the guardrail and it's just Jesus. So that's

03:30:43.959 --> 03:30:46.610
the thing with me about the tour bus thing. So

03:30:46.610 --> 03:30:49.049
you never take a tour bus? No. Do you go on tour?

03:30:49.469 --> 03:30:52.770
No. I do weekends and I come back home. I do

03:30:52.770 --> 03:30:54.670
like two weekends in a month. I don't do those

03:30:54.670 --> 03:30:58.729
long. It is nice. It is nice. I don't do it.

03:30:58.790 --> 03:31:01.190
I just don't do it. I do a lot of comedy. I do

03:31:01.190 --> 03:31:03.649
it in town and now I do it at my own club. Where's

03:31:03.649 --> 03:31:05.389
your club? It's great. Lots of fun on 6th Street.

03:31:05.549 --> 03:31:08.829
It's the 1927 place. The place that's haunted.

03:31:08.950 --> 03:31:10.569
Yes, sir. Perhaps. I'll take you there tonight

03:31:10.569 --> 03:31:12.690
if you want to go. Are you going? Let's go. Are

03:31:12.690 --> 03:31:14.290
you going? I'll go with you. I'll take you. I'm

03:31:14.290 --> 03:31:15.290
not even supposed to be there. I would love that.

03:31:15.309 --> 03:31:16.909
But tonight is Kill Tony, which is a fun thing

03:31:16.909 --> 03:31:18.690
to watch if you've never seen it. No, it's Kill

03:31:18.690 --> 03:31:20.969
Tony. It's a live comedy show where they have

03:31:20.969 --> 03:31:22.870
stand -up comedians. Some of them maybe for the

03:31:22.870 --> 03:31:25.290
first time ever do one minute in front of a professional

03:31:25.290 --> 03:31:28.389
group of comics who talk shit and there's a live

03:31:28.389 --> 03:31:31.010
band. It's really fun. Is his name Tony? His

03:31:31.010 --> 03:31:34.010
name's Tony Hinchcliffe. He's the most evil host

03:31:34.010 --> 03:31:36.350
of one of those shows. He's the best ever of

03:31:36.350 --> 03:31:40.219
hosting. a live comedy show Tony's the best let's

03:31:40.219 --> 03:31:42.899
go it's we'll go yeah that sounds amazing I would

03:31:42.899 --> 03:31:44.500
absolutely love that I would love that we'll

03:31:44.500 --> 03:31:53.100
go have fun but like it's what are you gonna

03:31:53.100 --> 03:31:59.100
say nothing cheers Joe Rogan cheers my brother

03:31:59.100 --> 03:32:01.719
cheers Joe Rogan thank you for having me thanks

03:32:01.719 --> 03:32:03.819
for being here man no man thanks for being here

03:32:06.170 --> 03:32:07.729
I'm excited to see your show tomorrow night too.

03:32:07.809 --> 03:32:11.610
I'm excited for you to come. Whee. I'm excited

03:32:11.610 --> 03:32:13.829
for you to come. I am too. Are you a pit guy

03:32:13.829 --> 03:32:16.770
or are you like a more... It becomes a bit of

03:32:16.770 --> 03:32:19.690
a problem if I'm in the pit. Okay. Yeah. I'm

03:32:19.690 --> 03:32:23.129
like kind of hot. Yeah. I get touched up. I'm

03:32:23.129 --> 03:32:25.350
a hot kind of guy. People like to grab my cock.

03:32:25.750 --> 03:32:31.500
Is that true? No. Sick. No. I wonder how many

03:32:31.500 --> 03:32:33.799
people get into pits just to try to grab cocks.

03:32:33.879 --> 03:32:36.659
Just to try to drive Joe Rogan's cock. Just to

03:32:36.659 --> 03:32:40.120
drive any cock. Not zero. Probably too many.

03:32:40.379 --> 03:32:44.579
Yeah, this is not zero. For sure there's a guy

03:32:44.579 --> 03:32:46.579
out there that's like, I'm assuming dicks I can

03:32:46.579 --> 03:32:49.379
grab tonight. Last night I got 16. This guy just

03:32:49.379 --> 03:32:53.250
buys tickets to the pit. Just everyone's bouncing

03:32:53.250 --> 03:32:56.129
around. Is it deliberate or is it like 100 %?

03:32:56.149 --> 03:33:00.670
He's just keeping score. That's his game. That's

03:33:00.670 --> 03:33:06.850
his Diablo. That's his Diablo. That's his Diablo.

03:33:07.030 --> 03:33:08.610
How many dicks can I grab in a night? I only

03:33:08.610 --> 03:33:11.290
grab dicks for like 14 hours. He's probably on

03:33:11.290 --> 03:33:14.549
a forum with a bunch of other dick grabbers and

03:33:14.549 --> 03:33:18.760
they're counting numbers. Oh, my God. No, I hope

03:33:18.760 --> 03:33:21.459
it's none at my show. There's some mosh pits

03:33:21.459 --> 03:33:23.799
where they just essentially are beating each

03:33:23.799 --> 03:33:25.940
other up. I've seen a bunch of those. Oh, dude.

03:33:26.219 --> 03:33:28.979
Just beating the fuck out of each other. Mosh

03:33:28.979 --> 03:33:32.659
pits are crazy. Crazy. I was at a show outside

03:33:32.659 --> 03:33:36.920
of Galinson's. It's a gun shop in Utah. I go

03:33:36.920 --> 03:33:39.559
and hang out, and Tim is like the sweetest guy.

03:33:39.639 --> 03:33:42.860
He owns it. And they did a show like right next

03:33:42.860 --> 03:33:44.780
door. There's like a T -shirt printing place.

03:33:46.120 --> 03:33:49.260
and uh a sneaker place right next door so they

03:33:49.260 --> 03:33:53.719
did a show in like the back alley parking lot

03:33:53.719 --> 03:33:57.440
deal and it was like it was a drain show and

03:33:57.440 --> 03:34:00.059
there was a bunch of like ms paint like really

03:34:00.059 --> 03:34:05.420
like some harder bands and there was this guy

03:34:05.420 --> 03:34:13.260
there and he was so fucking big and you saw like

03:34:14.200 --> 03:34:18.479
these like skinny, like they look like they were

03:34:18.479 --> 03:34:20.879
Metallica rockers, like in the eighties, like

03:34:20.879 --> 03:34:23.440
just like skinny. I remember the story about

03:34:23.440 --> 03:34:26.000
Metallica. They were like, Oh, these guys are

03:34:26.000 --> 03:34:28.180
the ugliest motherfuckers I've ever seen. I'm

03:34:28.180 --> 03:34:30.159
going to sign them. Like that's how they got

03:34:30.159 --> 03:34:33.760
signed. Like shit like that. And these guys were

03:34:33.760 --> 03:34:36.520
just like leather jacket, long hair, like didn't

03:34:36.520 --> 03:34:40.940
give a fuck, just rocking and rolling. And this

03:34:40.940 --> 03:34:44.750
dude, would just fucking swing his fucking arm

03:34:44.750 --> 03:34:48.549
and send him out of the pit instantly. I watched

03:34:48.549 --> 03:34:52.270
him get rocked. I was like, fuck, dude. I felt

03:34:52.270 --> 03:34:56.770
so bad. But they love it. That guy that got sent

03:34:56.770 --> 03:34:58.930
out with a bloody nose, like fucking missing

03:34:58.930 --> 03:35:01.389
teeth and shit came right fucking back in. He's

03:35:01.389 --> 03:35:04.069
like, let's fucking go. Like, yeah. It's like,

03:35:04.190 --> 03:35:06.889
dude, those mosh pits get fucking nuts. That's

03:35:06.889 --> 03:35:10.409
so nuts. Gnarly. It's not good for you. They

03:35:10.409 --> 03:35:12.670
wouldn't let you in the pit. I wouldn't go in

03:35:12.670 --> 03:35:14.809
the pit. You'd just be fucking, like, scissor

03:35:14.809 --> 03:35:16.690
-kicking people. I don't want to get head -butted.

03:35:16.809 --> 03:35:18.989
What is this? Is this a mosh pit? Oh, my God!

03:35:19.690 --> 03:35:22.309
Oh, my God. They're doing it, like, 300 style.

03:35:22.489 --> 03:35:25.110
Look at the dust come up and all that shit. That

03:35:25.110 --> 03:35:28.209
is the Battle of Thermopylae, isn't it? Look

03:35:28.209 --> 03:35:32.409
at the singer. Oh, he called for them to do it.

03:35:32.409 --> 03:35:34.350
Who's in the middle? Who's in the middle? Oh,

03:35:34.469 --> 03:35:37.170
someone dead? Look at that. That is so insane.

03:35:37.750 --> 03:35:40.309
Jesus Christ, dude. How many blown ACLs out there

03:35:40.309 --> 03:35:42.790
right now? It's like a big tug of war. What are

03:35:42.790 --> 03:35:45.829
they doing? Oh, my God. This is the biggest mosh

03:35:45.829 --> 03:35:48.350
pit in the history of the world. Totally dangerous

03:35:48.350 --> 03:35:51.649
mosh pits. There's a YouTube video. No, that's

03:35:51.649 --> 03:35:54.149
a great title. That's a very dangerous mosh pit.

03:35:54.329 --> 03:35:56.729
The circle pit is good. The circle pits are good.

03:35:56.870 --> 03:35:59.510
Circle pits are good. That's safer. You're just

03:35:59.510 --> 03:36:01.909
kind of running around in a circle. God, look

03:36:01.909 --> 03:36:03.329
at the size of that. Maybe you give someone on

03:36:03.329 --> 03:36:06.129
the right side of you a good pop, but that's

03:36:06.129 --> 03:36:09.530
about it. Just a little jab of the nuts. A subtle

03:36:09.530 --> 03:36:12.989
dick grab, as you were. Wow, these guys are just

03:36:12.989 --> 03:36:16.430
running into each other. How many fucking headbutts

03:36:16.430 --> 03:36:18.190
are you counting? Dude, it is like fucking medieval

03:36:18.190 --> 03:36:21.049
war. It is. Look at that guy. What is he singing?

03:36:21.969 --> 03:36:24.209
I think the word he was saying was like, ooh.

03:36:25.450 --> 03:36:31.299
Back that up a second. Back it up earlier. Exodus.

03:36:31.299 --> 03:36:41.629
Exodus is amazing. Oh my God, this is hysterical.

03:36:41.790 --> 03:36:46.069
Imagine a dystopian world where the president

03:36:46.069 --> 03:36:48.930
or your leader was a heavy metal vocalist. What

03:36:48.930 --> 03:36:52.049
he could get you to do. That guy could win. That

03:36:52.049 --> 03:36:53.389
guy could run for president. Just fucking run

03:36:53.389 --> 03:36:56.430
as fast as you can at that fucking guy. I mean,

03:36:56.450 --> 03:36:57.950
that's the kind of shit I would listen to if

03:36:57.950 --> 03:37:00.829
I was behind a machine gun. Yeah, fuck yeah.

03:37:01.629 --> 03:37:06.850
That shit for me, like, as a kid was like, it's

03:37:06.850 --> 03:37:11.549
so soothing. What do you listen to, Joe? I have

03:37:11.549 --> 03:37:14.290
very varied music tastes. Okay, fair enough.

03:37:14.590 --> 03:37:17.709
Yeah, I really do. I like to listen to a lot

03:37:17.709 --> 03:37:19.930
of old stuff. I like to listen to a lot of classic

03:37:19.930 --> 03:37:22.629
rock, but I also like to listen to a lot of 90s

03:37:22.629 --> 03:37:25.409
hip -hop. I like to listen to modern stuff. I

03:37:25.409 --> 03:37:28.110
listen to a lot of modern country. Who do you

03:37:28.110 --> 03:37:31.610
like? I like Zach Bryan. I love Sturgill. I love

03:37:31.610 --> 03:37:33.799
Sturgill. Zach Bryan is... Beautiful, too. His

03:37:33.799 --> 03:37:36.200
voice is amazing. I got a chance to see him live

03:37:36.200 --> 03:37:37.780
when he was in Austin, too, and he was on the

03:37:37.780 --> 03:37:40.299
podcast recently. He's a sweet guy, too. Like,

03:37:40.299 --> 03:37:44.340
really genuine, genuine guy. Just a super fucking

03:37:44.340 --> 03:37:48.860
talented singer, too, man. Dude. Jelly Roll,

03:37:49.040 --> 03:37:51.940
I love that dude. Yeah, he's a boss. He's the

03:37:51.940 --> 03:37:54.079
best. Yeah, I like him. He's such a good dude.

03:37:54.079 --> 03:37:56.399
He just seems like a sweet motherfucker. I love

03:37:56.399 --> 03:37:58.159
him. He's so real. Yeah, I love it. That guy's

03:37:58.159 --> 03:38:01.420
so real. He's such an appreciative... Happy,

03:38:01.420 --> 03:38:04.520
loving dude. Yes, sir. I met him at my club.

03:38:04.540 --> 03:38:08.940
He came to see Ron White. And he was on his way

03:38:08.940 --> 03:38:11.420
up, and we're sending him to the VIP balcony.

03:38:11.520 --> 03:38:13.159
I just came out to say hi, and he just gave me

03:38:13.159 --> 03:38:16.420
this giant hug. Just super fucking sweet dude.

03:38:16.940 --> 03:38:19.979
That's probably a good hug. Real hug. Yeah. A

03:38:19.979 --> 03:38:21.860
real one. Yeah, he looks like he gives good hugs.

03:38:21.860 --> 03:38:23.139
Gives you a real one. Yeah, I love that. Solid

03:38:23.139 --> 03:38:26.489
hug. You like Tyler? Genuinely happy dude. Tyler

03:38:26.489 --> 03:38:30.270
Childers? Yes, I love that guy. And Colter. I

03:38:30.270 --> 03:38:34.020
love Colter. So it's Sturgill, Tyler. And Coulter

03:38:34.020 --> 03:38:36.680
right now for me. I love all those guys very

03:38:36.680 --> 03:38:38.540
much. I keep trying to get Coulter to do the

03:38:38.540 --> 03:38:40.500
podcast, but he doesn't do podcasts. Well, that's

03:38:40.500 --> 03:38:43.000
what I hit up Coulter. Or he doesn't do mine,

03:38:43.059 --> 03:38:46.180
at least. No, not at all, because I got the same

03:38:46.180 --> 03:38:48.719
thing with Coulter. I hit up Coulter. I was like,

03:38:48.780 --> 03:38:51.879
hey, man, you want to come jam out sometime?

03:38:52.260 --> 03:38:54.799
Let's make a song. And he was like, you can come

03:38:54.799 --> 03:38:57.959
make a song on the ranch. And I was like, OK,

03:38:58.079 --> 03:39:00.920
cool. Amazing. I'm going to make it up one of

03:39:00.920 --> 03:39:03.219
these days. He's really on a rant. Yeah, dude.

03:39:03.840 --> 03:39:08.799
Wild. Yeah. His styles are so different, too.

03:39:08.940 --> 03:39:12.860
You go from Kate McKinnon to some of the other

03:39:12.860 --> 03:39:14.719
newer stuff. It's almost like it's a different

03:39:14.719 --> 03:39:18.379
guy. It's very interesting. I love his. He came

03:39:18.379 --> 03:39:20.879
out of the womb smoking a fucking cigarette,

03:39:21.059 --> 03:39:25.440
and it was fucking the coolest shit. Kate McKinnon,

03:39:25.479 --> 03:39:27.760
the fact that he was 21 when he made that song.

03:39:27.860 --> 03:39:30.100
It's insane. That's an 80 -year -old man song.

03:39:30.100 --> 03:39:33.780
It's insane. It's insane. I remember listening

03:39:33.780 --> 03:39:37.780
and I was like, oh, because he's like a couple

03:39:37.780 --> 03:39:42.040
months, if not a year younger than me. And just

03:39:42.040 --> 03:39:46.040
the way, just the like the heartbreak, how rich

03:39:46.040 --> 03:39:51.760
his voice is. Yes. Yes. He can like. It's insane.

03:39:51.899 --> 03:39:54.579
It's insane. When you see it coming out of his

03:39:54.579 --> 03:39:58.120
face. Dude, and watching that, what is it, the

03:39:58.120 --> 03:40:03.120
Sun King or whatever, the brewery shows that

03:40:03.120 --> 03:40:05.180
they do whenever he was there. Oh, yes, yes,

03:40:05.260 --> 03:40:08.299
yes. The acoustic shows. Sleeping on the blacktop

03:40:08.299 --> 03:40:14.799
or whatever he did over there. He looks. Fucking

03:40:14.799 --> 03:40:17.840
so young. He's so young. Where's that voice coming

03:40:17.840 --> 03:40:21.940
from? That song is so haunting. Kate McKinnon

03:40:21.940 --> 03:40:30.280
has a haunting song. It's so fucking good. Play

03:40:30.280 --> 03:40:33.920
it for me, Jamie. Yeah, come on, man. Jamie's

03:40:33.920 --> 03:40:40.079
the one who told me about it. Jamie came into

03:40:40.079 --> 03:40:42.319
the studio and goes, oh, I know a guy that you're

03:40:42.319 --> 03:40:47.979
going to love. I've never wanted to swing a pickaxe

03:40:47.979 --> 03:40:50.100
so hard in my life, and I play a lot of Minecraft,

03:40:50.579 --> 03:41:00.059
the number one game. Listen to this. Raven is

03:41:00.059 --> 03:41:10.700
a wicked bird. His wings are black as sin. And

03:41:10.700 --> 03:41:15.760
he floats outside my prison window, mocking those

03:41:15.760 --> 03:41:44.540
within. And he sings to me real loud. Damn. When

03:41:44.540 --> 03:41:51.100
I first met... Yeah. When I first met Tom McKinnon,

03:41:51.120 --> 03:41:56.969
I was... Working in the mine. Have you ever covered

03:41:56.969 --> 03:41:59.489
this? No, I couldn't. There's no way I could.

03:42:01.190 --> 03:42:08.049
I think you could do it. His voice is just like,

03:42:08.149 --> 03:42:11.790
it's so haunting. It's insane. Perfect amount

03:42:11.790 --> 03:42:16.510
of reverb. It's perfectly recorded. It's perfectly

03:42:16.510 --> 03:42:18.829
played. And he's such a good guitar player too.

03:42:18.889 --> 03:42:23.879
It's like perfectly played. This is such a song.

03:42:29.340 --> 03:42:39.399
Fuck, man. It's so good. It's so good. He's got

03:42:39.399 --> 03:42:41.639
so many of them like this, too. Well, that's

03:42:41.639 --> 03:42:47.360
the whole thing. It's like the whole Johnny Cash

03:42:47.360 --> 03:42:53.030
kind of like that. It's like a crazy. He always

03:42:53.030 --> 03:42:56.690
sang, like, murder ballads. Right. You know what

03:42:56.690 --> 03:42:59.030
I mean? So it's, like, super, like, it's like,

03:42:59.149 --> 03:43:01.469
oh, okay, I shot a fucking dude in Reno. Okay,

03:43:01.629 --> 03:43:05.489
I shot the guy that my wife loves. Like, all

03:43:05.489 --> 03:43:07.610
this shit. Like, I don't know. It's very, like.

03:43:07.729 --> 03:43:09.729
It's the original gangster rap. It's the whole,

03:43:09.909 --> 03:43:12.930
it's the old school production. It's the old

03:43:12.930 --> 03:43:15.450
school voice. It's the old school. And I find,

03:43:15.489 --> 03:43:18.729
like, a lot of the time in country now is, like,

03:43:18.750 --> 03:43:22.870
it's very overproduced. And so what I love about

03:43:22.870 --> 03:43:25.190
like Coulter and Tyler and everything is it's

03:43:25.190 --> 03:43:27.329
just like kind of more traditional in that way

03:43:27.329 --> 03:43:29.430
where it's just like that same bounce. You want

03:43:29.430 --> 03:43:32.690
that boom, boom, boom. You know what I mean?

03:43:32.750 --> 03:43:34.629
I don't know. Yeah, no, I know what you're saying.

03:43:35.049 --> 03:43:37.049
There's a thing where people are trying to make

03:43:37.049 --> 03:43:39.829
hits, right, instead of just trying to make something

03:43:39.829 --> 03:43:44.840
beautiful. And it works. Yeah, I guess there's

03:43:44.840 --> 03:43:47.579
so much money in making hits that there's going

03:43:47.579 --> 03:43:49.739
to be people that are technicians. Turns out.

03:43:49.780 --> 03:43:52.000
Turns out, bro. Look at you, buying $2 million

03:43:52.000 --> 03:43:55.399
Magic the Gathering cards. Actually, the fun

03:43:55.399 --> 03:43:57.959
part, that wasn't my bank account. That was actually

03:43:57.959 --> 03:44:00.959
my buddy's. But a big part of your appeal is

03:44:00.959 --> 03:44:03.479
your authenticity. That's a big part of why people

03:44:03.479 --> 03:44:06.799
love you. And I think that... What you're saying

03:44:06.799 --> 03:44:10.139
is that there's a lot of overproduction of things.

03:44:10.159 --> 03:44:12.680
It kind of takes away some of it. Well, sure.

03:44:12.959 --> 03:44:16.799
The grit of that kind of a song. Yeah, and there's

03:44:16.799 --> 03:44:20.879
a lot of production in my music as well. For

03:44:20.879 --> 03:44:23.799
sure. And I have some of them. Yeah, I mean,

03:44:23.799 --> 03:44:28.120
autotune in general. And some of the most talented

03:44:28.120 --> 03:44:31.520
producers and instrumentalists and songwriters

03:44:31.520 --> 03:44:36.030
and shit. I don't want to detract from people

03:44:36.030 --> 03:44:39.670
who write amazing songs. That's just not, like,

03:44:39.750 --> 03:44:45.370
whenever I listen to, you know, folk or country,

03:44:45.649 --> 03:44:49.530
like, I go towards Coulter and Tyler and Sturgill,

03:44:49.549 --> 03:44:54.489
like, every time. Because, I don't know, that

03:44:54.489 --> 03:44:57.690
bounce. There's something so magical about that

03:44:57.690 --> 03:45:02.360
classic fucking bounce. You know, that... cash

03:45:02.360 --> 03:45:05.760
bounce that train bounce yeah and i don't know

03:45:05.760 --> 03:45:11.399
and it's just like there's a lot of songs that

03:45:11.399 --> 03:45:19.340
are country but it doesn't have that bounce that

03:45:19.340 --> 03:45:21.739
i love so much you know what i mean i do know

03:45:21.739 --> 03:45:23.520
what you mean and it's just like i would it's

03:45:23.520 --> 03:45:29.299
just like at that point i it's a you know it's

03:45:29.299 --> 03:45:32.659
a lot of pop mix -ups you know what i mean and

03:45:32.659 --> 03:45:35.079
that's never been bad because what i've i've

03:45:35.079 --> 03:45:37.420
always tried to do and i'm sure people said the

03:45:37.420 --> 03:45:40.180
same thing about me because i sit and play the

03:45:40.180 --> 03:45:45.120
guitar with 808s and all that shit and um i just

03:45:45.120 --> 03:45:47.680
whenever i'm listening to that that makes me

03:45:47.680 --> 03:45:50.920
feel like it makes me feel like a hard ass you

03:45:50.920 --> 03:45:54.920
know what i mean yeah it makes me feel yeah like

03:45:55.420 --> 03:45:57.760
Like you're on a ranch. Exactly. Listening to

03:45:57.760 --> 03:46:01.079
Coulter, I'm like, he does the acapella shit,

03:46:01.180 --> 03:46:03.219
and I'm like, oh, man, I feel like I'm fucking

03:46:03.219 --> 03:46:05.899
out there with you, dude. But it's also like

03:46:05.899 --> 03:46:09.600
the choice of music is like he's singing a song

03:46:09.600 --> 03:46:13.840
about despair and the regret and all of it and

03:46:13.840 --> 03:46:16.899
the ravens mocking him from outside of the prison

03:46:16.899 --> 03:46:23.329
window. It's so good. And I'd assume that he

03:46:23.329 --> 03:46:24.909
writes all his songs. I would assume. Because

03:46:24.909 --> 03:46:27.290
looking at the writer credits. Bro, try getting

03:46:27.290 --> 03:46:30.770
someone to write that. Fuck. Try getting some

03:46:30.770 --> 03:46:35.030
fucking studio guy to write that. Dude, those

03:46:35.030 --> 03:46:37.590
guys in Nashville write fucking songs. They write

03:46:37.590 --> 03:46:40.129
some fucking songs. They write some fucking songs,

03:46:40.190 --> 03:46:43.889
dude. They do. They do. They do. The tags. I

03:46:43.889 --> 03:46:46.790
think what makes a good country song is the tag.

03:46:48.000 --> 03:46:51.579
There's always a tag. You look at classic country.

03:46:53.540 --> 03:46:56.059
You know, like George Strait. It's like, I've

03:46:56.059 --> 03:46:59.540
got oceanfront property in Arizona. You know

03:46:59.540 --> 03:47:02.620
what I mean? That's an amazing basis for a song.

03:47:02.860 --> 03:47:05.860
You just think about, if you'll buy that, I'll

03:47:05.860 --> 03:47:08.600
throw the Golden Gate fucking bridge in for free.

03:47:08.719 --> 03:47:11.780
You know what I mean? It's just like, there's

03:47:11.780 --> 03:47:15.620
always a good fucking tag. And Luke, when he

03:47:15.620 --> 03:47:18.190
says... when it rains it pours like all that

03:47:18.190 --> 03:47:21.950
shit like that like that fucking it's a it's

03:47:21.950 --> 03:47:25.510
snappy it's stays in your fucking head yeah and

03:47:25.510 --> 03:47:29.229
you think about it and those songs are so well

03:47:29.229 --> 03:47:33.030
written craftsmanship off of like one idea right

03:47:33.030 --> 03:47:38.149
you know what I mean yeah and Coulter does a

03:47:38.149 --> 03:47:40.610
lot of shit where it tells the story the story

03:47:40.610 --> 03:47:46.520
of it um but that idea is always there and that's

03:47:46.520 --> 03:47:49.020
that's something that's so cool and it just stays

03:47:49.020 --> 03:47:50.760
with you and you think about it and then you

03:47:50.760 --> 03:47:53.700
go and look up the lyrics once you look up the

03:47:53.700 --> 03:47:55.959
lyrics to a fucking country song it's fucking

03:47:55.959 --> 03:47:58.360
crazy like have you ever looked up the lyrics

03:47:58.360 --> 03:48:01.620
to uh clementine like oh my darling clementine

03:48:01.620 --> 03:48:07.579
that is the saddest song no it's about a prospector

03:48:07.579 --> 03:48:12.739
or a minor And his daughter goes, she falls into

03:48:12.739 --> 03:48:16.139
a river, and he can't swim, so he can't save

03:48:16.139 --> 03:48:20.620
her, and she's gone. Oh, my God. But how long

03:48:20.620 --> 03:48:28.059
have you known that song? Oh, my God. Wow. This

03:48:28.059 --> 03:48:30.680
is terrible. It's crazy. Drove the horses to

03:48:30.680 --> 03:48:32.860
the water every morning just at nine. Hit her

03:48:32.860 --> 03:48:35.219
foot against a splinter. Fell into the foaming

03:48:35.219 --> 03:48:38.000
brine. Ruby lips above the water. Blowing bubbles

03:48:38.000 --> 03:48:41.219
soft and fine. But alas, I was no swimmer, so

03:48:41.219 --> 03:48:44.219
I lost my climate. Isn't that? You gave me chills

03:48:44.219 --> 03:48:49.819
right there fucking reading it. Oh, God. Isn't

03:48:49.819 --> 03:48:53.190
that crazy, dude? Oh, God. But you think, oh

03:48:53.190 --> 03:48:56.409
my darling, oh my darling. It sounds so happy.

03:48:56.590 --> 03:48:59.549
I don't know. It's so cool. I don't know. You

03:48:59.549 --> 03:49:03.729
take those songs and you look at fucking what

03:49:03.729 --> 03:49:07.549
it's about. It's crazy, man. I love looking into

03:49:07.549 --> 03:49:09.829
that shit. You know what I really like listening

03:49:09.829 --> 03:49:14.569
to? When I really want to try to imagine a time.

03:49:15.090 --> 03:49:18.049
I really like listening to Robert Johnson. Yeah,

03:49:18.090 --> 03:49:20.370
dude. I listen to Robert Johnson and I just imagine.

03:49:21.639 --> 03:49:25.940
The time, what year was, there's only one good

03:49:25.940 --> 03:49:30.979
solid recordings of Robert Johnson. It was like

03:49:30.979 --> 03:49:33.600
one session, I think. I don't think he had more

03:49:33.600 --> 03:49:36.620
than one album that you can get, right? But what

03:49:36.620 --> 03:49:41.959
year was that? 1936. That's crazy. Bro, and that

03:49:41.959 --> 03:49:44.219
guy was so good, they thought he sold his soul

03:49:44.219 --> 03:49:48.959
to the devil. They're like, there's no way you

03:49:48.959 --> 03:49:55.180
can be that good. No way. 1936 and 1937. Wow.

03:49:55.739 --> 03:49:58.659
Most were first released on 78 RPM records in

03:49:58.659 --> 03:50:03.760
1937. Wow. So how did he become such a legend,

03:50:03.860 --> 03:50:06.139
you've got to wonder? Did he just go around and

03:50:06.139 --> 03:50:09.680
everybody knew him? That's a good question. That's

03:50:09.680 --> 03:50:11.799
a good question. I guess he was just like the

03:50:11.799 --> 03:50:16.229
Dave Chappelle of blues singers back then. He

03:50:16.229 --> 03:50:18.370
was just this guy that was above everybody, and

03:50:18.370 --> 03:50:21.309
everybody was like, Jesus Christ. How? How are

03:50:21.309 --> 03:50:25.290
you doing this? He would play like just, I love

03:50:25.290 --> 03:50:28.250
that Delta fucking sound. It's so scrappy. Give

03:50:28.250 --> 03:50:30.250
me some Robert Jones. It's so scrappy. But it's

03:50:30.250 --> 03:50:33.209
also, you've got to imagine the time. People

03:50:33.209 --> 03:50:35.569
are just, this is like during the Great Depression,

03:50:35.770 --> 03:50:40.329
right? People are starving. They're fucked. The

03:50:40.329 --> 03:50:43.989
world's fucked. It's post -World War I, pre -World

03:50:43.989 --> 03:50:51.799
War II. Horrible time. Just squalor and famine.

03:50:51.940 --> 03:50:53.819
It's a hard stretch. Hard to get real good food.

03:50:54.260 --> 03:50:56.479
It's not like there's a Whole Foods in your fucking

03:50:56.479 --> 03:51:00.120
neighborhood. Things were weird back then. And

03:51:00.120 --> 03:51:06.719
this guy is in the deep south. This is recording.

03:51:43.819 --> 03:51:47.239
What's crazy is like all music, recorded music,

03:51:47.540 --> 03:51:51.899
has its roots in something from before. Yeah.

03:51:51.959 --> 03:51:59.059
All of it. You know, this emerged, his creation.

03:51:59.899 --> 03:52:02.420
You know, when this got sold and entered into

03:52:02.420 --> 03:52:06.139
just the zeitgeist of human consciousness, now

03:52:06.139 --> 03:52:08.040
they're aware that there's a guy out there that

03:52:08.040 --> 03:52:11.159
can do this. Because before there wasn't anybody

03:52:11.159 --> 03:52:13.280
like this guy, right? And then all of a sudden

03:52:13.280 --> 03:52:15.959
he comes along and hits this level that nobody

03:52:15.959 --> 03:52:18.180
had ever hit before. Yeah, you gotta, like, it's,

03:52:18.180 --> 03:52:21.940
that's crazy. Because, like, all these ideas,

03:52:22.139 --> 03:52:27.079
like, who invented a pinch harmonic? Right. Like

03:52:27.079 --> 03:52:30.260
the, like, on the guitar. Like, who's, like,

03:52:30.260 --> 03:52:32.360
you know what, if I hold my pick just right and

03:52:32.360 --> 03:52:35.399
hit that fucking string, it's gonna sound this

03:52:35.399 --> 03:52:37.319
different. And I'm gonna make that my signature

03:52:37.319 --> 03:52:40.149
sound. you're just going to blow up. But that's

03:52:40.149 --> 03:52:42.690
just something that you do. Like his vibrato

03:52:42.690 --> 03:52:48.469
on his voice and shit. I think that's something,

03:52:48.590 --> 03:52:52.489
whenever I first started making music, that was

03:52:52.489 --> 03:53:01.409
something that really, if not propelled me, was

03:53:01.409 --> 03:53:03.829
something that was a little different. Because

03:53:03.829 --> 03:53:06.790
I had a little... I always tried to copy Stevie

03:53:06.790 --> 03:53:09.090
Nicks and there's a guy named Conor O 'Burris

03:53:09.090 --> 03:53:11.090
from Bright Eyes and he would have this great

03:53:11.090 --> 03:53:15.389
vibrato in his voice when he sang and Stevie

03:53:15.389 --> 03:53:18.909
would too. And I think that that wasn't being

03:53:18.909 --> 03:53:21.629
done and that's just the way I naturally sang

03:53:21.629 --> 03:53:25.889
as a kid and it sounded like shit. But as I got

03:53:25.889 --> 03:53:29.250
older, that's just the way I sang. So I think

03:53:29.250 --> 03:53:33.299
that kind of was a thing that... I wouldn't say

03:53:33.299 --> 03:53:36.920
propelled me, but made me a little, a little

03:53:36.920 --> 03:53:39.180
different. You know what I mean? Because everybody

03:53:39.180 --> 03:53:41.159
has their own unique style and there's something

03:53:41.159 --> 03:53:46.000
to listen to for everybody, you know? And I think

03:53:46.000 --> 03:53:48.719
that was something that really like, it's like,

03:53:48.780 --> 03:53:52.600
okay, this is, he has a unique voice. If that

03:53:52.600 --> 03:53:57.700
makes sense, you know? Yes. It's, it's like authentic.

03:53:58.920 --> 03:54:02.120
Very much so. And that's just how I sang. Yeah.

03:54:02.299 --> 03:54:08.040
Since I was a kid. And I think if you like grow

03:54:08.040 --> 03:54:12.979
up doing something and I'm in no way comparing

03:54:12.979 --> 03:54:15.639
it to anything, I'm just saying how that cuts

03:54:15.639 --> 03:54:19.899
through. Like he played his whole fucking life.

03:54:20.280 --> 03:54:23.899
Right. Whoa, fuck. If he did sell his soul, I

03:54:23.899 --> 03:54:27.739
mean, fuck. I don't think he did. He got a good

03:54:27.739 --> 03:54:32.379
gig. But, you know, that's the whole. The legend.

03:54:32.459 --> 03:54:34.420
The fun legend. The legend. But that's also just

03:54:34.420 --> 03:54:36.959
when someone stands out like that, you're always

03:54:36.959 --> 03:54:38.879
going to have those kind of stories. People love

03:54:38.879 --> 03:54:41.239
to bullshit. You just keep going. And especially

03:54:41.239 --> 03:54:43.299
like Stevie. Stevie, you could tell when he's

03:54:43.299 --> 03:54:46.260
playing the guitar. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like

03:54:46.260 --> 03:54:47.639
Stevie Ray Vaughan. You can tell, but that's

03:54:47.639 --> 03:54:50.180
just shit you grow up and you have like a little

03:54:50.180 --> 03:54:52.940
fucking quirk. You know, like there's a tone

03:54:52.940 --> 03:54:55.159
that you have whenever. Yeah. Even when you're

03:54:55.159 --> 03:54:57.159
first starting, like you don't do something perfectly

03:54:57.159 --> 03:55:01.040
correct. Yeah. But then it turns out to be your

03:55:01.040 --> 03:55:04.059
thing. You know what I mean? Yeah, there's a

03:55:04.059 --> 03:55:06.399
sound when guys are playing where you know it's

03:55:06.399 --> 03:55:09.739
them. It's interesting, right? It's crazy, especially

03:55:09.739 --> 03:55:15.379
on a non -vocal musical instrument. Gary Clark

03:55:15.379 --> 03:55:17.600
Jr. is a great example of that, too. He died

03:55:17.600 --> 03:55:19.399
the next year after recording this stuff. Wow,

03:55:19.399 --> 03:55:24.399
he was 27. 27?! Just like everybody else. Just

03:55:24.399 --> 03:55:28.020
like Hendrix, Joplin, Morrison, Kurt Cobain.

03:55:29.239 --> 03:55:33.440
27. That's fucking crazy, dude. That age is nuts

03:55:33.440 --> 03:55:36.379
for rock stars. Yeah? That's a nutty age. And

03:55:36.379 --> 03:55:38.120
it seems like if you get through that age, you

03:55:38.120 --> 03:55:42.620
live to be a million. Well, that's... These fucking

03:55:42.620 --> 03:55:45.879
dudes. Rolling Stones on tour. They're Biden's

03:55:45.879 --> 03:55:48.540
age. They look great. I remember there was a

03:55:48.540 --> 03:55:51.299
psychic that on my birthday said I was going

03:55:51.299 --> 03:55:55.559
to die when I turned 27. Oh, what a cunt. I don't

03:55:55.559 --> 03:55:58.420
know. What a cunt. She's just lying, making shit

03:55:58.420 --> 03:55:59.879
up. That bitch is a little psychic. Well, now,

03:56:00.059 --> 03:56:02.520
hindsight's always 20 -20. So I'm like, you lied.

03:56:02.799 --> 03:56:05.079
But she put that shit in your head, man. Yeah,

03:56:05.079 --> 03:56:06.040
well, that's why. That could have been a self

03:56:06.040 --> 03:56:09.420
-manifesting prophecy. Man. But as soon as I

03:56:09.420 --> 03:56:11.639
turned 28, I'm like, fuck it. I'm getting on

03:56:11.639 --> 03:56:14.459
every fucking combine, every fucking helicopter,

03:56:14.760 --> 03:56:17.100
every fucking motor vehicle I see. I'm going.

03:56:17.559 --> 03:56:20.319
Except for really high buildings. Y2K, when it

03:56:20.319 --> 03:56:21.879
was all over. Yeah, exactly. You'd be like, fuck

03:56:21.879 --> 03:56:25.420
it. Let's go. Everything's fine. I'm not cursed.

03:56:26.440 --> 03:56:30.819
It's crazy how that happened. And also, Jim Morrison

03:56:30.819 --> 03:56:34.639
died when he was 27? Yep. How is he 27? How is

03:56:34.639 --> 03:56:37.819
he that good? How is he 27? Do you know his car?

03:56:38.510 --> 03:56:41.170
is like a source of mystery. There's like one

03:56:41.170 --> 03:56:43.590
guy claims he has this car, but apparently it's

03:56:43.590 --> 03:56:46.450
the wrong VIN number. But his car, he had a 1967

03:56:46.450 --> 03:56:51.010
Shelby GT500. Cool. And he had it for only like

03:56:51.010 --> 03:56:52.729
a year or two, and then he sold it, and then

03:56:52.729 --> 03:56:54.290
there's a providence of it where people try to

03:56:54.290 --> 03:56:57.510
track it. Cool. He looks like Jesus Christ. He

03:56:57.510 --> 03:56:59.569
does. If Jesus Christ was here, he'd drive a

03:56:59.569 --> 03:57:03.590
1967 Shelby GT500. If Jesus had to drive, I'll

03:57:03.590 --> 03:57:05.530
tell you what. He wouldn't be driving a minivan.

03:57:06.049 --> 03:57:09.129
He'd be driving an American muscle. That's why

03:57:09.129 --> 03:57:11.010
we would listen. No, he'd be driving a Tesla.

03:57:11.270 --> 03:57:12.989
No, no, no. He would drive a goddamn American

03:57:12.989 --> 03:57:16.010
muscle car and realize, just plant more trees.

03:57:16.209 --> 03:57:18.889
They'll eat the gas or something. Look at that,

03:57:18.889 --> 03:57:21.809
though. He was so pumped. To have that car? Yeah.

03:57:22.110 --> 03:57:25.190
To just run next to it? How pumped are you to

03:57:25.190 --> 03:57:26.329
have that fucking car? I think he filmed something

03:57:26.329 --> 03:57:28.530
with it. Oh, okay. I think he did some sort of

03:57:28.530 --> 03:57:31.110
a thing where he filmed himself with the car.

03:57:31.309 --> 03:57:33.190
Like, I don't remember what he did. I remember

03:57:33.190 --> 03:57:35.690
it was something. But there's, like, people have

03:57:35.690 --> 03:57:37.909
tried to track the car. And there's one gentleman

03:57:37.909 --> 03:57:39.950
on YouTube who says he owns it. It's definitely

03:57:39.950 --> 03:57:43.069
the same exact car. But whether or not that's

03:57:43.069 --> 03:57:46.239
the one, I don't know. The VIN number discrepancy.

03:57:46.299 --> 03:57:48.260
Yeah. But, you know, back then everything was

03:57:48.260 --> 03:57:50.239
written down on paper. Who knows what the fuck

03:57:50.239 --> 03:57:52.020
people. And also if somebody might have changed

03:57:52.020 --> 03:57:53.920
the VINs because they were trying to. Maybe someone

03:57:53.920 --> 03:57:56.319
stole it from somebody. I don't fucking know.

03:57:56.319 --> 03:57:57.780
You know, it's like you're dealing with like

03:57:57.780 --> 03:58:00.799
50 plus years of shit going down. Who knows what

03:58:00.799 --> 03:58:02.780
happened. What's your favorite card? Dope card.

03:58:04.270 --> 03:58:07.510
I don't really have a favorite car, a favorite

03:58:07.510 --> 03:58:10.290
specific car. But if I had a favorite kind of

03:58:10.290 --> 03:58:12.629
car, it would be American muscle cars. Those

03:58:12.629 --> 03:58:14.909
are my favorite cars. Because those cars, even

03:58:14.909 --> 03:58:17.430
though they're not the fastest cars, they don't

03:58:17.430 --> 03:58:20.850
handle the best, those cars are literally like

03:58:20.850 --> 03:58:24.389
a rolling piece of art. You're driving around

03:58:24.389 --> 03:58:29.549
in this iconic time machine of art. You know,

03:58:29.549 --> 03:58:32.110
someone created this shape, this beautiful shape,

03:58:32.190 --> 03:58:35.170
and you see that shape and you go, oh. You see

03:58:35.170 --> 03:58:39.069
a 69 Mustang, you just go, oh. My dad's got a

03:58:39.069 --> 03:58:44.329
69 Camaro. Oh, yeah. It's blue with the. Yeah.

03:58:44.870 --> 03:58:47.209
Beautiful car. No, it is beautiful. That's why

03:58:47.209 --> 03:58:49.389
I said, Dad, I'm waiting for you to kick the

03:58:49.389 --> 03:58:52.629
bucket so I can ride that. Don't you have one

03:58:52.629 --> 03:58:55.049
of them six -wheel Hennesseys? Yeah, I did. That

03:58:55.049 --> 03:58:59.350
is so crazy. That thing is so gigantic. It's

03:58:59.350 --> 03:59:02.129
so fun. Do you have a pickup out here? Yeah,

03:59:02.129 --> 03:59:04.110
I have one out here. I don't have it here today.

03:59:04.270 --> 03:59:06.530
Today I drove my Tesla. Today I drove my electric

03:59:06.530 --> 03:59:09.430
car. It's a Jesus Christ car. No, Jesus would

03:59:09.430 --> 03:59:11.690
drive a fucking Shelby. That's sick. Yeah, look

03:59:11.690 --> 03:59:15.239
at that thing. That is so crazy. A six -wheel

03:59:15.239 --> 03:59:17.899
drive car. Now, all that extra weight with those

03:59:17.899 --> 03:59:20.559
extra two wheels and an extra axle in the back,

03:59:20.659 --> 03:59:25.540
is that fast still? It's fast. It's bumpy, but

03:59:25.540 --> 03:59:28.079
it's fast. Oh, I imagine you'd probably tow a

03:59:28.079 --> 03:59:30.239
fucking giant boat with that thing, man. That's

03:59:30.239 --> 03:59:33.340
right. All that traction. It is so fun to drive.

03:59:33.420 --> 03:59:37.379
It is inconvenient in Salt Lake City. How so?

03:59:37.920 --> 03:59:40.760
Because it stands out? I can't get into any of

03:59:40.760 --> 03:59:43.639
the spots. No parking spots. It's so big. I can't

03:59:43.639 --> 03:59:45.540
get into any of the spots. You got an extra half

03:59:45.540 --> 03:59:48.360
a car out back. I go to the Applebee's and I'm

03:59:48.360 --> 03:59:51.020
like, all right, well, I don't know of any. I

03:59:51.020 --> 03:59:54.020
try to get it perfect in because I don't want

03:59:54.020 --> 03:59:57.079
to be the dickhead that blocks any spots. But

03:59:57.079 --> 04:00:00.579
if I don't go in far enough, it sticks out so

04:00:00.579 --> 04:00:03.540
fucking big out the back. And I just got to go

04:00:03.540 --> 04:00:07.149
in just a little bit into the next spot. Just

04:00:07.149 --> 04:00:11.610
a tiny bit. Just a smidge. Just like the wench

04:00:11.610 --> 04:00:14.110
on the front. Well, for most people, that's fine.

04:00:14.190 --> 04:00:16.889
If you have a regular car. Yeah, you can get

04:00:16.889 --> 04:00:21.250
in there. There's other spots. Usually, I love

04:00:21.250 --> 04:00:23.950
the Applebee's, but it's not usually super full.

04:00:24.590 --> 04:00:26.889
You're an Applebee's guy. I love Applebee's.

04:00:26.950 --> 04:00:29.649
Really? What's it about Applebee's? I love the

04:00:29.649 --> 04:00:35.090
neighborhood, man. The atmosphere. I love the

04:00:35.090 --> 04:00:38.229
atmosphere. I love the drink they give you that

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comes with a gummy shark. Which one's that? I

04:00:41.510 --> 04:00:42.530
don't know what it's called. It's like one of

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them signature cocktails. Yeah, but it's so good.

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And they have a special Mountain Dew at Applebee's.

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They do? Yeah. It's special? Yeah, it's special.

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It's only at Applebee's. What's the special?

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You looking for another one of those? No, I got

04:00:53.750 --> 04:00:58.569
this one right here. It's like a raspberry flavor,

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I think. It's called like Space Punch. Darkberry

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Bash. Darkberry Bash. It's called actually NASA

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uses orange filters on Mars Bash. I swear to

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God, check that shit out. Look into it. They

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might. I think what Jamie is saying about color

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correction, though, is accurate. Yeah, when I

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was just looking at the photos, they all come

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black and white, I think. Right. I think the

04:01:21.530 --> 04:01:24.549
thing is that they're just getting data. They're

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getting data, and that data has to be interpreted

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into an image. And it's a lot more complicated

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than you taking a picture on your iPhone and

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texting it to me, and I get it, and it's in full

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resolution. Look up Mars copy and paste. Look

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up NASA copy and paste. NASA copy. Let's see

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if this works. I'll add Mars. Just add Mars for

04:01:45.389 --> 04:01:47.229
a buzzword. What do you think about all this

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UFO disclosure shit? Are you paying attention

04:01:48.870 --> 04:01:55.290
to it? Yes, sir. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's pretty

04:01:55.290 --> 04:01:57.149
cool. That's pretty interesting, right? Yeah.

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You know what's interesting? How little people

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seem to care. Because we already know. I know,

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but it's interesting that there wasn't some moment

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where people were like, holy shit, aliens are

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real. Pretty soon that's coming. I think because

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of the slow trickle, it's going to be we just

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accept it. Well, they try to normalize it. Yeah.

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Like War of the Worlds, which is like the Battle

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of Los Angeles and shit like that. That was a

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real fucking thing that happened. The pictures

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of Battle of Los Angeles is crazy. What happened

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exactly in Battle of Los Angeles? There's this

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big object in the sky and we're shooting machine

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guns at it. We got spotlights. This is like in

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the 50s maybe? I've never seen it. There's this

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photo. Look at this shit. Wow. So we're putting

04:02:56.729 --> 04:02:59.969
fucking rounds on this fucking thing. Spotlights

04:02:59.969 --> 04:03:02.010
on this thing in the sky. Look at the rounds.

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Right, but what is it that they see? That's weird.

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All you can see is spotlights. 1947, it says

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in the corner. Boy, that looks like a fucking

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flying saucer. Look at in the middle, but those

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things around it, those are fucking like Ma Deuce

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rounds. Like they're shooting at this fucking

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thing. They don't know what it is. Well, you

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know that there's a famous story from the Soviet

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Union that these guys shot at a UFO and it turned

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them into stone. Is it true? I don't know. The

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CIA investigated it. Here, I'll send it to you,

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Jamie, because I sent it to Jeremy Corbell. That's

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what I asked him. Fuck, I should have had links,

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Jamie. God damn it. Well, this is the only link

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I have. CIA UFO turned into STEM. You're definitely

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on a watch list, Jamie. Yeah, so there's literally

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like a CIA document about it. These guys supposedly

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shot at a low -flying spaceship. According to

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the KGB materials, a quite low -flying spaceship

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in the shape of a saucer appeared above a military

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unit that was conducting routine training maneuvers.

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For unknown reasons, somebody unexpectedly launched

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a surface -to -air missile and hit the UFO. It

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fell to Earth not far away, and five short humanoids

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with large heads and large black eyes emerged

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from it. It is stated in the testimonies by the

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two soldiers who remained alive that after freeing

04:04:33.930 --> 04:05:05.469
themselves, Poles. Yeah, only two soldiers who

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stood in the shade and were less exposed to the

04:05:08.790 --> 04:05:12.610
luminous explosion survived. No shit The KGB

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report goes on to say that the remains of the

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UFO and the petrified soldiers were transferred

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to a secret scientific research institution near

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Moscow. Specialists assumed that a source of

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energy that is still unknown to earthlings instantly

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changed the structure of the soldiers' living

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organisms, having transformed it into a substance

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whose molecular composition is no different from

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that of limestone. Oh, my God. It turned them

04:05:38.020 --> 04:05:40.239
into limestone. Turned them literally into limestone.

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And this is a CIA paperwork? Well, this is, you

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know, they're reading from a KGB file, right?

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So it's just... Go to the very bottom of that

04:05:50.909 --> 04:05:52.889
again, Jamie, the very bottom. It says one of

04:05:52.889 --> 04:05:54.889
the things it says, the CIA representative stated,

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if the KGB file corresponds to reality, this

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is an extremely menacing case. The aliens possess

04:06:01.829 --> 04:06:04.209
such weapons and technology that go beyond all

04:06:04.209 --> 04:06:06.950
our assumptions. They can stand up for themselves

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if attacked. The thing is they're saying if the

04:06:09.969 --> 04:06:12.649
file corresponds to reality, that means there's

04:06:12.649 --> 04:06:15.350
a question. If this is real, they're tough. Yeah,

04:06:15.409 --> 04:06:18.670
they can fuck with you. What year was this released?

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I don't know. Source is a newspaper. 1991? 93.

04:06:24.590 --> 04:06:29.450
93. So there's all these disclosures that are

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going on right now, and they're very, very fascinating.

04:06:32.040 --> 04:06:33.819
Because it's hard to know what's true and what's

04:06:33.819 --> 04:06:35.739
not true. But it's interesting that they're talking

04:06:35.739 --> 04:06:38.159
about it. But no one's showed me anything yet.

04:06:38.239 --> 04:06:39.899
I'm waiting for them to show me things. I've

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seen some things already, like those videos that

04:06:42.040 --> 04:06:46.079
they took off the FLIR video and the Go Fast

04:06:46.079 --> 04:06:48.379
video. These videos of these things where these

04:06:48.379 --> 04:06:51.200
jet fighter pilots are trying to track this thing.

04:06:51.260 --> 04:06:53.059
It's like zipping across the sky. I'm like, what

04:06:53.059 --> 04:06:55.600
the fuck is that? I've seen a few of those. I've

04:06:55.600 --> 04:06:59.360
talked to two different fighter pilots that have

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had encounters. And they're all in. They're all

04:07:02.139 --> 04:07:06.319
in. I think there's a real thing going on. What

04:07:06.319 --> 04:07:09.680
that real thing is is what's confusing to me.

04:07:09.739 --> 04:07:12.500
I think some of it has to be ours. I think some

04:07:12.500 --> 04:07:15.319
of it has to be like super advanced drone technology

04:07:15.319 --> 04:07:19.620
that we don't want everyone knowing about. And

04:07:19.620 --> 04:07:21.840
it's probably some black ops shit. But I don't

04:07:21.840 --> 04:07:24.040
think that's all of it. I think it's also possible

04:07:24.040 --> 04:07:26.719
that we've been visited. It just makes sense.

04:07:26.940 --> 04:07:30.489
It sounds so stupid. That's part of the problem

04:07:30.489 --> 04:07:32.409
of even talking about it because it sounds dumb

04:07:32.409 --> 04:07:34.510
because there's no evidence. So you have to believe

04:07:34.510 --> 04:07:35.989
in something where there's no evidence of it

04:07:35.989 --> 04:07:38.770
other than like some blurry photographs. But

04:07:38.770 --> 04:07:41.870
then when you just think about the size of the

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universe itself and the fact that we exist, we

04:07:45.149 --> 04:07:47.469
exist here on this planet. We're real. We know

04:07:47.469 --> 04:07:49.430
we're real. What if it's fucking a Martha or

04:07:49.430 --> 04:07:52.409
whatever and they're from fucking the center

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of the earth and the holes in the polar? The

04:07:56.639 --> 04:08:00.040
poles or whatever, north and south, and that's

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where the holes are, and that's why Google Maps

04:08:02.760 --> 04:08:05.620
blocks it all out and all that shit. Well, that

04:08:05.620 --> 04:08:08.780
would be a great theory before cell phones. But

04:08:08.780 --> 04:08:11.600
it's not there. You still can't see it. Yeah,

04:08:11.620 --> 04:08:13.979
but you can with satellites and also flight patterns.

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Copy and paste, by the way. You know who doesn't

04:08:17.899 --> 04:08:22.969
think the world is flat? Pilots. True. Or anyone

04:08:22.969 --> 04:08:25.370
who's been in an airplane. They fly around, these

04:08:25.370 --> 04:08:27.649
motherfuckers. They know where they have to go.

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They know the flight patterns. You look at it.

04:08:29.610 --> 04:08:32.309
Yeah, you look at it. Also, by the way, everything's

04:08:32.309 --> 04:08:34.909
round. Go out in the fucking sky and look at

04:08:34.909 --> 04:08:38.209
Mars, look at Jupiter, get a telescope, look

04:08:38.209 --> 04:08:40.209
at all the stars. Notice how everything's round?

04:08:40.450 --> 04:08:42.870
Seems like there's a pattern going on. Why would

04:08:42.870 --> 04:08:49.549
this be different? This ass is round. I don't

04:08:49.549 --> 04:08:53.909
know. It's so weird, man. I don't know. And you're

04:08:53.909 --> 04:08:55.889
talking about the oh shit moment. I think we've

04:08:55.889 --> 04:08:58.969
been so like normalized to it. Like ET, all this

04:08:58.969 --> 04:09:01.350
shit. Growing up watching this shit to where

04:09:01.350 --> 04:09:04.069
it's like, yeah, no shit. Everyone, no matter

04:09:04.069 --> 04:09:09.309
what the surveys say or anything, everyone thinks

04:09:09.309 --> 04:09:13.850
there's like something going on. Everyone. Yeah.

04:09:15.430 --> 04:09:17.909
There's a few people that still are very incredulous.

04:09:18.790 --> 04:09:22.090
Elon, believe it or not, is incredulous. He's

04:09:22.090 --> 04:09:23.870
famously said, if aliens are real, they sure

04:09:23.870 --> 04:09:27.049
are subtle. Very subtle. Bigfoot's subtle, too.

04:09:29.170 --> 04:09:31.250
Doesn't mean he's not an interdimensional being

04:09:31.250 --> 04:09:32.909
that could teleport at will. He knows where the

04:09:32.909 --> 04:09:37.569
cameras are. He's an omniscient being. He shuts

04:09:37.569 --> 04:09:39.950
down trail cams. Bigfoot is just Jesus Christ,

04:09:40.110 --> 04:09:43.389
full beard, all over. He's just Woods Jesus.

04:09:44.470 --> 04:09:46.870
Yeah, that's what he is. Y 'all see in the woods,

04:09:47.049 --> 04:09:49.729
Jesus. He's a mythical creature that's looking

04:09:49.729 --> 04:09:52.889
out for humanity. Our brothers and sisters, they

04:09:52.889 --> 04:09:56.250
need our help. He's a benevolent, kind being.

04:09:56.309 --> 04:09:58.750
He's got a big heart. Bro, the biggest scam ever

04:09:58.750 --> 04:10:00.729
pulled in the American public is finding Bigfoot.

04:10:01.030 --> 04:10:05.170
That show, they did that show for like 50 years.

04:10:05.270 --> 04:10:08.950
It is so good. It's so good. I like the Bigfoot

04:10:08.950 --> 04:10:11.819
hunters. I like all those shows. I know they're

04:10:11.819 --> 04:10:13.500
not going to catch it, and I don't care. Of course.

04:10:13.559 --> 04:10:16.639
I still watch it. And you can tell. Now it's

04:10:16.639 --> 04:10:20.739
gotten to the point where it's all just actors.

04:10:21.120 --> 04:10:24.040
They're just going out there. This is so scripted,

04:10:24.040 --> 04:10:26.219
it's not even funny. Yeah, they're pretending

04:10:26.219 --> 04:10:28.379
that they're encountering things, and they're

04:10:28.379 --> 04:10:32.260
hearing things in the woods. It's crazy. There's

04:10:32.260 --> 04:10:35.239
this whole, on Discovery, I watch Discovery,

04:10:35.440 --> 04:10:38.000
or I have Discovery Plus, and there's a show

04:10:38.000 --> 04:10:40.879
about vampires. And they were talking to these

04:10:40.879 --> 04:10:45.280
two vampire hunters. And they were like, it was

04:10:45.280 --> 04:10:49.059
like, imagine like Blade, but like two Blades.

04:10:49.280 --> 04:10:52.700
And they were like acting like Blade. And I was

04:10:52.700 --> 04:10:55.860
like, this is not. Fuck. This is undiscovery.

04:10:56.299 --> 04:10:59.280
This is undiscovery, dude. That's hilarious.

04:11:00.260 --> 04:11:02.659
Dude, it was like two. What if they go fucking

04:11:02.659 --> 04:11:04.579
kill somebody? They're crazy. That's what I'm

04:11:04.579 --> 04:11:06.899
saying. They're like, we know. We know they're

04:11:06.899 --> 04:11:09.379
fucking out there. But it's all acting, bro.

04:11:09.420 --> 04:11:12.620
Imagine if they were. That opening scene to Blade

04:11:12.620 --> 04:11:14.620
when that dude gets dragged into the vampire

04:11:14.620 --> 04:11:19.159
disco. I don't like surprises. He does like surprises,

04:11:19.180 --> 04:11:26.579
actually. That's just amazing. Play that scene.

04:11:26.719 --> 04:11:29.260
That is so good. Play that scene. I think that's

04:11:29.260 --> 04:11:31.059
one of the greatest scenes in any movie ever.

04:11:31.100 --> 04:11:33.719
It is so good. And Tracy Lourdes is the one who

04:11:33.719 --> 04:11:37.920
takes him there. Dude. The first two Blade movies

04:11:37.920 --> 04:11:41.139
were... The fucking best shit ever. The first

04:11:41.139 --> 04:11:43.860
one. And he cuts that guy's hand off with this

04:11:43.860 --> 04:11:47.159
fucking drawstring thing. Oh, man, that's so

04:11:47.159 --> 04:11:49.940
cool, man. Yeah, those movies are the shit. But

04:11:49.940 --> 04:11:53.020
the first one's the best. This poor dork. This

04:11:53.020 --> 04:11:55.239
poor dude. This poor dork thinks he's going to

04:11:55.239 --> 04:11:57.600
get to bang Tracy Lourdes. And she drags him

04:11:57.600 --> 04:12:00.500
through this meat processing thing. And while

04:12:00.500 --> 04:12:03.559
he's doing it, he kind of sees people. He's like,

04:12:03.659 --> 04:12:07.440
what the fuck? As he's going through all this

04:12:07.440 --> 04:12:10.309
hanging meat. They get to a point where, like,

04:12:10.309 --> 04:12:13.370
people are rolling by. He's looking at frozen

04:12:13.370 --> 04:12:17.950
people. But this dumb motherfucker wants pussy

04:12:17.950 --> 04:12:23.110
so bad he keeps going. If you see an elevator

04:12:23.110 --> 04:12:25.770
in, like, or, like, just a normal elevator with

04:12:25.770 --> 04:12:30.969
a bouncer and a trench coat. He's ready to bail

04:12:30.969 --> 04:12:33.629
and she grabs him and kisses him. And he's like,

04:12:33.670 --> 04:12:37.590
okay, cool. This song is so hard. This song is

04:12:37.590 --> 04:12:43.459
so hard. Give me that, Jamie. This fucking scene

04:12:43.459 --> 04:12:49.500
rules, dude. She's great, too. She's great, too.

04:12:49.579 --> 04:12:54.459
Frost is like girlfriend in the movie. Yes. And

04:12:54.459 --> 04:12:56.340
that dude who plays the sidekick who gets his

04:12:56.340 --> 04:12:58.399
hand cut off, that guy's the shit. He's so good.

04:12:59.040 --> 04:13:03.120
I fucking love this scene because they all know

04:13:03.120 --> 04:13:07.000
he's meat and he doesn't know he's meat. He's

04:13:07.000 --> 04:13:09.540
the only meat in there. Only meat in there, man.

04:13:09.680 --> 04:13:13.600
And they all recognize it. And he's trying to

04:13:13.600 --> 04:13:16.120
get behind it. He's like, woo, woo, let's go.

04:13:17.780 --> 04:13:20.020
Yeah, he starts dancing out there. Look at him.

04:13:21.440 --> 04:13:26.819
What's up, dude? What's up, man? And then the

04:13:26.819 --> 04:13:29.139
blood. It's so crazy because you don't know.

04:13:29.219 --> 04:13:31.399
So far, you don't know what the fuck is going

04:13:31.399 --> 04:13:36.940
on. Did they stop the new Blade? I heard they

04:13:36.940 --> 04:13:38.860
were making... I think there's a series, right?

04:13:38.920 --> 04:13:41.600
I thought it was a movie and they stopped making

04:13:41.600 --> 04:13:44.780
it. Oh, no. Did they? I don't know. I hope not.

04:13:45.020 --> 04:13:46.979
It definitely got pushed back a few months. It

04:13:46.979 --> 04:13:48.639
got pushed back? I don't know. Well, there's

04:13:48.639 --> 04:13:50.719
the writer's guild thing. There's the fucking

04:13:50.719 --> 04:13:57.260
actor strike. Whenever Blade comes in, Wesley's

04:13:57.260 --> 04:13:59.479
such a fucking hard ass. Oh, this scene's insane.

04:14:01.299 --> 04:14:05.190
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you, Shane. Yeah, here's

04:14:05.190 --> 04:14:06.909
the part where the blood starts dripping from

04:14:06.909 --> 04:14:17.909
the ceiling. That's so good. And they're all

04:14:17.909 --> 04:14:19.090
throwing their arms up in the air. Why does no

04:14:19.090 --> 04:14:22.270
one do this? This would be a crazy party. In,

04:14:22.350 --> 04:14:24.510
like, real life, this would be a crazy fucking

04:14:24.510 --> 04:14:27.569
party. Not real blood, but, like, pretend blood.

04:14:27.870 --> 04:14:29.649
Yeah, you'd have to do pretend. But then people

04:14:29.649 --> 04:14:31.680
would do one with real blood. Just like they're

04:14:31.680 --> 04:14:34.000
having no rules fights where you eye gouge. You

04:14:34.000 --> 04:14:45.579
win by eye gouging. Now he's realizing it's all

04:14:45.579 --> 04:14:50.159
vampires around him. He's about to get fucked

04:14:50.159 --> 04:15:10.040
up. Oh, dude. Oh, dude. They're so good. Oh,

04:15:10.059 --> 04:15:13.559
my God. Look how clean. Blade is so clean right

04:15:13.559 --> 04:15:20.260
here, too. Look at that. The Daywalker. Motherfucker's

04:15:20.260 --> 04:15:22.760
always trying to ice skate uphill is what he

04:15:22.760 --> 04:15:25.379
says to Frost right before he fucking kills him.

04:15:25.479 --> 04:15:31.299
That's the coolest thing. Yo, let's go! Come

04:15:31.299 --> 04:15:39.889
on. That, I think, is like, out of all the superhero

04:15:39.889 --> 04:15:44.530
movies, that's the best introduction. Yeah, it

04:15:44.530 --> 04:15:46.270
is. It's so good. The best introduction of a

04:15:46.270 --> 04:15:49.430
superhero ever. It's so good. It starts in the...

04:15:49.430 --> 04:15:51.930
It's so good. Yeah. I mean, that's how you see

04:15:51.930 --> 04:15:53.610
Blade. Yeah. That's the first time you see it.

04:15:53.610 --> 04:15:55.690
That's why I was so disappointed. Are they...

04:15:55.690 --> 04:15:58.389
They're still doing the 2020... Because it was

04:15:58.389 --> 04:16:00.729
supposed to be this year, but I don't know if

04:16:00.729 --> 04:16:02.409
it's actually... There's actually... There's

04:16:02.409 --> 04:16:06.069
a teaser trailer for it. Hold on. Oh. Wow. Because

04:16:06.069 --> 04:16:08.510
that was my favorite shit as a kid. As well as

04:16:08.510 --> 04:16:13.590
the trailer? He's so good. That actor they got

04:16:13.590 --> 04:16:32.909
to do Blade. He is so good. What was that? What

04:16:32.909 --> 04:16:34.510
do you mean? I don't know. He didn't say that,

04:16:34.549 --> 04:16:36.170
so this could be a fake trailer. He didn't say

04:16:36.170 --> 04:16:38.989
that. He did not say that. It could just be lagged.

04:16:38.989 --> 04:16:39.709
How do you know he didn't say it? Maybe it's

04:16:39.709 --> 04:16:41.290
just like a re -upload or something? His mouth

04:16:41.290 --> 04:16:46.790
didn't move that way. Yeah, not even close. Let

04:16:46.790 --> 04:16:51.489
it go, though. I'm dying. There are watchers

04:16:51.489 --> 04:16:54.850
behind the eyes all over the city. That looked

04:16:54.850 --> 04:17:03.959
okay. Oh, how the mighty have fallen. Grant you

04:17:03.959 --> 04:17:08.040
the destiny you seek. Night is not a game. It

04:17:08.040 --> 04:17:12.899
is a hunt. That didn't look weird. Yeah, that

04:17:12.899 --> 04:17:14.659
wasn't a real trailer. Yeah, it's like a fan

04:17:14.659 --> 04:17:17.579
-edited trailer. You think so? I've seen a really

04:17:17.579 --> 04:17:19.379
good one recently where people are actually getting

04:17:19.379 --> 04:17:22.459
real jobs for making fan -edited trailers. That's

04:17:22.459 --> 04:17:24.239
crazy. That's smart, right? And then you show

04:17:24.239 --> 04:17:26.530
it to the studio. Dude, it was like, find that

04:17:26.530 --> 04:17:30.250
fucking guy. Yeah. They just take, what, from

04:17:30.250 --> 04:17:33.090
the teaser or whatever and put a song there?

04:17:33.170 --> 04:17:36.450
You know what drives me crazy? Who decided that

04:17:36.450 --> 04:17:41.629
that's how music for a trailer has to be? Right.

04:17:44.569 --> 04:17:46.770
Anticipation. You know what? It was the inception.

04:17:47.110 --> 04:17:57.860
It was inception. That was like. Right. I don't

04:17:57.860 --> 04:18:00.420
know. Every movie trailer soundtrack is exactly

04:18:00.420 --> 04:18:04.659
the same. Every music trailer or movie trailer

04:18:04.659 --> 04:18:06.959
soundtrack is exactly the same. That's interesting.

04:18:07.200 --> 04:18:09.260
It's true, though. It's true. It's like there's

04:18:09.260 --> 04:18:12.040
a pattern to get you jazzed up about something.

04:18:12.360 --> 04:18:14.399
But see, it's starting to wear off because I'm

04:18:14.399 --> 04:18:15.920
like, okay, I hear it. It's played out. Yeah,

04:18:15.920 --> 04:18:18.440
I hear it. Now we need like a trailer with no

04:18:18.440 --> 04:18:20.979
music. Trailers used to be one of my favorite

04:18:20.979 --> 04:18:23.559
parts of going to the movies. Really? Yeah, man.

04:18:23.680 --> 04:18:26.760
You got a good trailer. A good, solid trailer

04:18:26.760 --> 04:18:29.799
that sucks you in. You're like, oh, shit. That

04:18:29.799 --> 04:18:31.899
was how you found out about movies back then.

04:18:32.120 --> 04:18:34.559
You didn't see Oppenheimer yet, right? No. No,

04:18:34.559 --> 04:18:36.600
no, no, no, no, no. They show a trailer for this

04:18:36.600 --> 04:18:38.520
before. And the sound, because you're in the

04:18:38.520 --> 04:18:40.739
IMAX theater with Oppenheimer, makes this movie.

04:18:40.840 --> 04:18:42.680
I mean, it already looks good, but the trailer

04:18:42.680 --> 04:18:44.940
and the audio. Is it the same soundtrack? This

04:18:44.940 --> 04:18:46.579
is Killers of a Flower Moon. No, it's not at

04:18:46.579 --> 04:18:50.030
all. They added, whoever added this together

04:18:50.030 --> 04:18:51.790
did a great job. Oh, is this new? Yeah, this

04:18:51.790 --> 04:18:53.870
comes out later this year. Killers of the Flower.

04:18:53.950 --> 04:19:02.049
Leo's a beast. My color. They used the sound

04:19:02.049 --> 04:19:06.190
great. The whole stage. They have the worst land

04:19:06.190 --> 04:19:11.569
possible. But they outsmarted everybody. The

04:19:11.569 --> 04:19:17.250
land had oil on it. Black gold. Money. It flows

04:19:17.250 --> 04:19:27.010
freely here now. I do love that money, sir. This

04:19:27.010 --> 04:19:37.049
wealth should come to us. Their time is over.

04:19:39.049 --> 04:19:45.329
It's just gonna be another tragedy. When this

04:19:45.329 --> 04:19:48.870
money started coming, we should have known it

04:19:48.870 --> 04:19:54.709
came with something else. They're like buzzards

04:19:54.709 --> 04:20:03.549
circling our people. We're still warriors. I

04:20:03.549 --> 04:20:08.469
ought to kill these white men who killed my family.

04:20:17.549 --> 04:20:19.729
You've got to take back control of your home.

04:20:23.610 --> 04:20:26.709
I was sent down from Washington, D .C. to see

04:20:26.709 --> 04:20:31.069
about these murders. See what about them? See

04:20:31.069 --> 04:20:52.729
who's doing it. Expecting a miracle to make all

04:20:52.729 --> 04:20:58.790
this go away? You know they don't happen anymore.

04:21:00.750 --> 04:21:05.329
Whoa. It's a good trailer. That's a good fucking

04:21:05.329 --> 04:21:07.950
trailer. That's an original trailer soundtrack.

04:21:07.989 --> 04:21:12.030
That's a good fucking trailer. I'm going to see

04:21:12.030 --> 04:21:14.690
that fucking movie. I'm going to see that fucking

04:21:14.690 --> 04:21:18.309
movie. You ever watch an old movie with no soundtrack

04:21:18.309 --> 04:21:20.709
in it? And you're like, wow, this is wild. They

04:21:20.709 --> 04:21:22.229
have no music in this movie. I'm trying to think

04:21:22.229 --> 04:21:24.909
of the last movie I watched with no soundtrack

04:21:24.909 --> 04:21:27.450
in it. If you watch some old, like watch The

04:21:27.450 --> 04:21:29.729
Hustler with Paul Newman and Jackie Gleason,

04:21:29.850 --> 04:21:33.110
there's no music playing. Unless there's music

04:21:33.110 --> 04:21:35.170
in the background of a bar or something where

04:21:35.170 --> 04:21:40.090
they're at. There's no music that accompanies

04:21:40.090 --> 04:21:44.379
the scenes. No country for old men. No country

04:21:44.379 --> 04:21:47.360
for old fucking men. The coolest fucking movie.

04:21:47.379 --> 04:21:50.059
That's the best movie of all time. I love that

04:21:50.059 --> 04:21:53.440
fucking movie. Javier Bardem is like the best

04:21:53.440 --> 04:21:56.139
bad guy of all time. Oh my God, he's insane in

04:21:56.139 --> 04:21:58.959
that movie. He's insane in that movie. He's unhinged.

04:21:59.239 --> 04:22:02.620
Thank you. He really does appear to be that guy.

04:22:03.059 --> 04:22:06.520
He feels like a psychotic guy that kills you

04:22:06.520 --> 04:22:09.420
with a cattle prod. Even that scene where he's

04:22:09.420 --> 04:22:12.719
driving on the bridge and he... There's a bird

04:22:12.719 --> 04:22:16.760
on the bridge and he just goes and tries to kill

04:22:16.760 --> 04:22:20.639
it. Yeah. But Mrs., like that says so much about

04:22:20.639 --> 04:22:25.559
that character. It is so fucking good. The way

04:22:25.559 --> 04:22:28.000
he kills people too is so crazy. The fucking

04:22:28.000 --> 04:22:30.520
shower curtain. Yeah. The shower curtain where

04:22:30.520 --> 04:22:32.159
he's like, he sees that motherfucker and he's

04:22:32.159 --> 04:22:34.760
like, yeah. Just blast him through the shower

04:22:34.760 --> 04:22:38.540
curtain. Yeah. I love that movie. That movie

04:22:38.540 --> 04:22:43.670
has no music in it. Wow. I love that. I love

04:22:43.670 --> 04:22:47.889
that. Yeah, it's a weird thing where you're listening

04:22:47.889 --> 04:22:50.610
to music in a scene and it's telling you how

04:22:50.610 --> 04:22:53.809
to think. Right. You know? Where it kind of takes

04:22:53.809 --> 04:22:57.309
away a little bit of the suspension of disbelief

04:22:57.309 --> 04:23:00.969
that you're that character. And that's why I

04:23:00.969 --> 04:23:09.250
love that contrast and the juxtaposition of...

04:23:10.789 --> 04:23:15.409
different music than you would expect. Like,

04:23:15.610 --> 04:23:18.450
and the Django, whenever he goes and fucking

04:23:18.450 --> 04:23:22.229
kills the whole house to Tupac. Yeah. That shit

04:23:22.229 --> 04:23:25.649
is so hard because it's been Western music the

04:23:25.649 --> 04:23:27.909
whole time. Right, right, right. That's such

04:23:27.909 --> 04:23:31.229
a Tarantino move. He always has amazing music

04:23:31.229 --> 04:23:36.049
choices. For those big culmination scenes, what

04:23:36.049 --> 04:23:39.909
was the song in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood?

04:23:41.140 --> 04:23:45.780
Whenever everything was fucking going down. Because

04:23:45.780 --> 04:23:48.299
it always builds up to that one scene with the

04:23:48.299 --> 04:23:53.299
contrasting music. It is so fucking cool. I love

04:23:53.299 --> 04:23:56.920
that. I love that. It's just like, oh, I'm going

04:23:56.920 --> 04:24:00.219
to fucking be in a war scene to, like, fucking,

04:24:00.360 --> 04:24:04.280
like, where's my mind? Like, even the where's

04:24:04.280 --> 04:24:06.379
my mind, like, that's great. But, like, it's

04:24:06.379 --> 04:24:21.559
so fucking cool, dude. This scene is insane Music

04:24:21.559 --> 04:24:23.659
in the background. Yeah, there's music. There's

04:24:23.659 --> 04:24:39.760
music there Doors Did you watch this movie? Oh,

04:24:39.860 --> 04:24:54.530
yeah I watched this movie with Dave Chappelle

04:24:54.530 --> 04:24:58.309
and Donnell Rawlings in a movie theater that

04:24:58.309 --> 04:25:00.129
we had all rented out. There was no one in it

04:25:00.129 --> 04:25:03.350
but us. All the comics and the dudes we work

04:25:03.350 --> 04:25:05.709
with went to see it at like 2 o 'clock in the

04:25:05.709 --> 04:25:09.350
morning after our show. It's so good. It's amazing.

04:25:09.569 --> 04:25:13.930
You get that buildup for that fucking... It's

04:25:13.930 --> 04:25:18.430
also such a Tarantino movie. The violence in

04:25:18.430 --> 04:25:23.180
it is so egregious. But only in that one deal.

04:25:23.479 --> 04:25:26.680
Right, but it's enough. It's enough. It's so

04:25:26.680 --> 04:25:29.100
good. And then he goes, he's like, you know what?

04:25:29.180 --> 04:25:32.139
I'm getting out the fucking flamethrower from

04:25:32.139 --> 04:25:36.440
my movie prop from a while ago. That shit is

04:25:36.440 --> 04:25:42.079
so crazy, dude. Yeah, exactly. Oh, you're a home

04:25:42.079 --> 04:25:44.940
intruder? I'm pulling out my fucking flamethrower.

04:25:47.430 --> 04:25:53.569
Oh, God. That shit is crazy, dude. It's a crazy

04:25:53.569 --> 04:25:56.729
movie, man. I love that movie. It's such a fun

04:25:56.729 --> 04:25:59.030
movie, too, because it's like a reimagining of

04:25:59.030 --> 04:26:02.670
the Manson murders. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was it

04:26:02.670 --> 04:26:07.989
Manson? Yeah. Like, actual? Or was it like a

04:26:07.989 --> 04:26:11.010
playoff of? I think it was the Manson family

04:26:11.010 --> 04:26:14.930
coming after him. But he happens to be there.

04:26:15.090 --> 04:26:17.250
Yeah, it was. No, it was. Yep, yep. Because Tate's

04:26:17.250 --> 04:26:19.569
in the movie. Everybody, the director, his idea.

04:26:19.909 --> 04:26:25.870
Manson's in the movie briefly. The Italian director

04:26:25.870 --> 04:26:33.090
that was in the, with Sharon Tate. Oh, yeah,

04:26:33.129 --> 04:26:35.649
Manson was in that. That's right. That's crazy,

04:26:36.049 --> 04:26:40.350
dude. And they go to that ranch. Yeah. They go

04:26:40.350 --> 04:26:42.510
to the ranch and they're looking for the owner

04:26:42.510 --> 04:26:45.090
of the ranch and he's sleeping. He's like, he

04:26:45.090 --> 04:26:48.030
doesn't feel very good. That's a crazy movie.

04:26:48.329 --> 04:26:51.409
It is a crazy movie. It's very good. It's a very

04:26:51.409 --> 04:26:56.750
good movie. And that's what they did, too. They

04:26:56.750 --> 04:27:01.530
whacked people for Charlie. And just... Is the

04:27:01.530 --> 04:27:04.409
ranch story real? I guess specifically is what

04:27:04.409 --> 04:27:06.610
I'm thinking about. What is the actual story?

04:27:06.870 --> 04:27:08.670
What do they say? That they killed the guy who

04:27:08.670 --> 04:27:10.049
owned the ranch and took it over or something?

04:27:10.389 --> 04:27:13.950
Yeah, well, I guess in the movie, he's dead.

04:27:15.590 --> 04:27:17.969
I don't know if that's based on a real story,

04:27:18.049 --> 04:27:21.129
but I bet it is. I bet that's real. Or at least

04:27:21.129 --> 04:27:25.069
if he's not dead, he's just fucking fucked up

04:27:25.069 --> 04:27:29.409
out of his mind. They gave him all the drugs

04:27:29.409 --> 04:27:32.409
in the world. But I think there were some cases

04:27:32.409 --> 04:27:36.250
of girls honeypotting dudes and then the other

04:27:36.250 --> 04:27:39.309
Manson family guys would come over and it would

04:27:39.309 --> 04:27:41.469
turn into a shit show. I think that's what happened

04:27:41.469 --> 04:27:43.809
with Brian Wilson and Dennis Wilson, his manager.

04:27:43.989 --> 04:27:49.440
They became entrenched with Charles Manson. And

04:27:49.440 --> 04:27:51.219
I think Dennis, we brought up this the other

04:27:51.219 --> 04:27:53.180
day, right? Dennis Wilson was his manager at

04:27:53.180 --> 04:27:55.120
one point or something, was going to produce

04:27:55.120 --> 04:27:57.940
a record for him or something like that. And

04:27:57.940 --> 04:28:01.819
it went sour. And, you know, then now you have

04:28:01.819 --> 04:28:04.520
the fucking head of the Manson family who hates

04:28:04.520 --> 04:28:08.979
you and he wants to kill you. Same Brian Wilson?

04:28:09.120 --> 04:28:11.379
Brian Wilson from the Beach Boys. Yeah. Yeah,

04:28:11.379 --> 04:28:13.760
his brother was a producer. Have you listened

04:28:13.760 --> 04:28:19.149
to his music? Sure. Look at that. While gathering

04:28:19.149 --> 04:28:21.370
his cult following, Manson was a singer -songwriter

04:28:21.370 --> 04:28:23.569
in the fringe of the Los Angeles music industry,

04:28:23.709 --> 04:28:25.950
chiefly through a chance association with Dennis

04:28:25.950 --> 04:28:28.389
Wilson of the Beach Boys, who introduced Manson

04:28:28.389 --> 04:28:33.030
to record producer Terry Melcher. His music is

04:28:33.030 --> 04:28:37.010
so different. Yeah, it's fucking weird. It's

04:28:37.010 --> 04:28:38.790
weird. Yeah, play some Charles Manson music.

04:28:38.969 --> 04:28:42.610
It's weird listening to his voice. Because we

04:28:42.610 --> 04:28:47.780
know, but that was like... Right before. It's

04:28:47.780 --> 04:28:51.319
crazy, dude. It's so, it's fucking gives me fucking

04:28:51.319 --> 04:29:08.739
chills, dude. It's so weird. The fucking eyes,

04:29:08.959 --> 04:29:30.270
dude. It makes sense that he could do that. It's

04:29:30.270 --> 04:29:31.909
weird, man. Because he's charismatic, right?

04:29:32.010 --> 04:29:34.790
He was a cult leader. He has charisma. He knows

04:29:34.790 --> 04:29:37.229
how to captivate people's attention. And that's

04:29:37.229 --> 04:29:39.069
what he's doing through his singing. It's so

04:29:39.069 --> 04:29:42.489
weird, dude. Weird. It gave me chills listening

04:29:42.489 --> 04:29:44.950
to that fucking come on and look at that fucking

04:29:44.950 --> 04:29:49.260
picture. It's just so strange. It's strange.

04:29:49.540 --> 04:29:52.040
It's strange. Strange as a recording. Charles

04:29:52.040 --> 04:29:55.559
Manson's song that's out there. Crazy. I think

04:29:55.559 --> 04:29:57.299
there's more. I think there's more than that.

04:29:57.360 --> 04:30:00.760
There's like a whole record now. It's crazy.

04:30:00.780 --> 04:30:02.760
Did you ever see Searching for Sugar Man? No,

04:30:02.760 --> 04:30:05.260
sir. Do you know the story behind it? No, sir.

04:30:05.340 --> 04:30:08.360
Bro. This is a crazy story. That might have been

04:30:08.360 --> 04:30:10.500
him singing just for record. What's that? That

04:30:10.500 --> 04:30:12.600
wasn't him? Wasn't Charles Manson? It's fake?

04:30:12.739 --> 04:30:16.420
No, no, no. I'm reading that he wrote these songs.

04:30:16.620 --> 04:30:20.500
Oh. And someone else sung it? That might have

04:30:20.500 --> 04:30:22.860
been someone else's voice. Might have been, or

04:30:22.860 --> 04:30:25.219
is? I'm trying to figure it out. The actual thing

04:30:25.219 --> 04:30:26.700
we just listened to, I don't know, but I'm like,

04:30:26.760 --> 04:30:29.340
here's a link that says listen to these Charles

04:30:29.340 --> 04:30:32.180
Manson songs, and he's credited as the songwriter

04:30:32.180 --> 04:30:34.920
for them. He might have been trying to write

04:30:34.920 --> 04:30:38.299
Beach Boys songs. Interesting. Interesting. I

04:30:38.299 --> 04:30:42.180
didn't know they had any Brian Wilson and...

04:30:42.760 --> 04:30:46.940
They had any connection. That's crazy. This one

04:30:46.940 --> 04:30:49.299
says that these are performed by Steve Grogan.

04:30:49.299 --> 04:30:53.979
Steve Grogan. Ah, okay. So he wrote it. 1970

04:30:53.979 --> 04:30:58.559
recordings of Manson songs. Whoa. That's crazy.

04:30:58.719 --> 04:31:02.760
Jamie, Google searching for Sugar Man. This is

04:31:02.760 --> 04:31:05.440
a movie that I think you would love. So this

04:31:05.440 --> 04:31:08.620
movie is about this guy who made these albums.

04:31:08.780 --> 04:31:11.700
He made an album in the 70s, made some recordings.

04:31:13.289 --> 04:31:17.389
And nobody, they didn't take off over here in

04:31:17.389 --> 04:31:20.629
America. But people were playing them in South

04:31:20.629 --> 04:31:25.770
Africa. And in South Africa, this guy was gigantic.

04:31:26.629 --> 04:31:29.030
And there was all these rumors about him being

04:31:29.030 --> 04:31:31.870
dead. Meanwhile, the guy was in America doing

04:31:31.870 --> 04:31:36.430
construction work. He was like a laborer. Really?

04:31:36.530 --> 04:31:41.110
Yes. So then all of a sudden they find him. What

04:31:41.110 --> 04:31:45.190
is his name? It says it right there. Just scroll

04:31:45.190 --> 04:31:52.209
up. Rodriguez. So this guy doesn't know that

04:31:52.209 --> 04:31:57.690
he's a fucking huge star in South Africa. And

04:31:57.690 --> 04:32:01.350
they find him, and then they bring him to South

04:32:01.350 --> 04:32:04.690
Africa to do a concert. And it's fucking bananas.

04:32:05.149 --> 04:32:09.149
Imagine having no idea that there's hundreds

04:32:09.149 --> 04:32:13.319
of thousands of people. What year is this? Well,

04:32:13.340 --> 04:32:16.020
the documentary was like... 10 years ago, when

04:32:16.020 --> 04:32:19.180
the movie came out. Right, and what was the event?

04:32:19.620 --> 04:32:23.079
98, it said on that tape. So 98, so no internet.

04:32:23.639 --> 04:32:25.780
So that's how it happens. This is the kind of

04:32:25.780 --> 04:32:26.940
shit that happened before the internet. Somebody

04:32:26.940 --> 04:32:28.940
got a hold of his records. And played it on the

04:32:28.940 --> 04:32:30.379
radio. Some guy was an aficionado. He was like,

04:32:30.440 --> 04:32:32.540
I love this song. And he has some great songs.

04:32:32.819 --> 04:32:34.819
Some great music. It's really interesting music.

04:32:35.700 --> 04:32:39.819
And, you know, he's... It was a fucking huge

04:32:39.819 --> 04:32:42.180
star in another country, and he had no idea.

04:32:42.979 --> 04:32:45.879
And this is the movie about him going on stage.

04:32:46.020 --> 04:32:48.680
It brought me to tears, man. It brought me to

04:32:48.680 --> 04:32:51.100
tears. When he went on stage, it's like, holy

04:32:51.100 --> 04:32:54.260
shit, what is that like for him? He had no idea.

04:32:54.940 --> 04:32:56.159
That's crazy. It's like he's living in a dream.

04:32:56.159 --> 04:32:58.340
How do you even go do a show? How do you even

04:32:58.340 --> 04:33:00.059
go do a show? How do you do a show? I can't do

04:33:00.059 --> 04:33:02.579
a fucking show, and I know that there's people

04:33:02.579 --> 04:33:06.270
coming. I can't even fucking do a show. He's

04:33:06.270 --> 04:33:08.650
believed to have sold more records in South Africa

04:33:08.650 --> 04:33:15.750
than Elvis Presley. That's crazy. Insane. Sixto

04:33:15.750 --> 04:33:19.709
Rodriguez is his name. Wow. You ever heard any

04:33:19.709 --> 04:33:25.270
of his stuff? No, sir. Pull up something. Pull

04:33:25.270 --> 04:33:28.090
up some shit. That's crazy. He's got a great

04:33:28.090 --> 04:33:33.849
voice. It's great stuff. Sugar Man, I guess?

04:33:34.150 --> 04:33:36.950
Yes, Sugar Man's a good one. Looking for. Trying

04:33:36.950 --> 04:33:46.709
to find one. Here is a good one. Sugar man, won't

04:33:46.709 --> 04:33:52.310
you hurry? Because I'm tired of these scenes.

04:33:53.090 --> 04:33:59.810
For a blue coin, won't you bring back all those

04:33:59.810 --> 04:34:10.939
colors to my dreams? You carry Jumper's Coke

04:34:10.939 --> 04:34:21.000
Sweet Mary Jane Sugar Man Met a false friend

04:34:21.000 --> 04:34:30.060
On a lonely dusty road Lost my heart When I found

04:34:30.060 --> 04:34:46.770
it It had turned to dead black coal It's a good

04:34:46.770 --> 04:34:48.889
fucking song, right? It's so good. It's really

04:34:48.889 --> 04:35:02.110
good. It's great writing. It is. It is really

04:35:02.110 --> 04:35:04.790
good. It really breathes really fucking nice,

04:35:04.810 --> 04:35:07.810
and his voice is insane. Jamie, what year was

04:35:07.810 --> 04:35:11.270
this that this was recorded? I think 68. Wow.

04:35:12.290 --> 04:35:15.409
He was one off. He was almost in the good year.

04:35:15.509 --> 04:35:19.189
This dude for 30 years thought he didn't make

04:35:19.189 --> 04:35:23.810
it. That's crazy. And then he goes over and he

04:35:23.810 --> 04:35:28.470
stands up in front of an arena filled with people.

04:35:28.650 --> 04:35:31.930
He quit music in 1976 and purchased a house in

04:35:31.930 --> 04:35:36.270
Detroit for 250 bucks, technically. Wow. $250?

04:35:36.750 --> 04:35:39.049
He lived there until 2013. Yeah, his house had

04:35:39.049 --> 04:35:42.689
like no heat, you know, like a fireplace. It's

04:35:42.689 --> 04:35:45.409
weird shit, man. What's a fireplace? You know,

04:35:45.430 --> 04:35:50.430
where the fire is, in the corner. That's fucking

04:35:50.430 --> 04:35:53.069
crazy. I got to look into fucking Rodriguez.

04:35:53.330 --> 04:35:54.689
What a fucking legend. I think the guy wound

04:35:54.689 --> 04:35:57.709
up giving all his money away, too. He's kind

04:35:57.709 --> 04:35:59.830
of, I mean, that might be one of them legend

04:35:59.830 --> 04:36:01.569
stories. I tell a lot of those, unfortunately.

04:36:02.569 --> 04:36:05.520
Don't turn out to be true. I hear a lot of legends,

04:36:05.619 --> 04:36:08.240
and I just fucking repeat them ad nauseum. But

04:36:08.240 --> 04:36:10.419
I think the thing about him was people said that

04:36:10.419 --> 04:36:12.880
he had given his money away and that he just

04:36:12.880 --> 04:36:14.880
kind of went back to a simple life and stopped

04:36:14.880 --> 04:36:18.979
performing. Maybe he experienced it in the documentary

04:36:18.979 --> 04:36:20.959
and all the heat and all the attention. He's

04:36:20.959 --> 04:36:23.400
like, yeah, you know what? I'm an older man now,

04:36:23.500 --> 04:36:25.720
and I'm not interested in this anymore. I was

04:36:25.720 --> 04:36:28.709
interested in this when I was a young man. and

04:36:28.709 --> 04:36:31.169
now maybe i just want to chill yeah and like

04:36:31.169 --> 04:36:33.590
he fucking knows he did it now at least like

04:36:33.590 --> 04:36:36.130
wow people enjoyed it and it's really good man

04:36:36.130 --> 04:36:41.310
yeah it's crazy songs that can slip through that

04:36:41.310 --> 04:36:43.750
like people like how was that like you find out

04:36:43.750 --> 04:36:46.369
a song from 1969 you're like how was that not

04:36:46.369 --> 04:36:50.610
a fucking smash hit yeah do you ever heard of

04:36:50.610 --> 04:36:55.250
johnny thunder no sir play i'm alive by johnny

04:36:55.250 --> 04:36:58.200
thunder My friend Brian Simpson told me about

04:36:58.200 --> 04:37:01.159
this the other day. And he goes, you got to hear

04:37:01.159 --> 04:37:03.139
this song. And he plays it. And he goes, and

04:37:03.139 --> 04:37:04.580
we were trying to, we had to do the research.

04:37:04.619 --> 04:37:06.759
When was this released? We thought it was 2011.

04:37:07.180 --> 04:37:10.939
It's 1969. It was like re -released. Damn. Okay.

04:37:11.060 --> 04:37:14.000
All right. But I want you to imagine a world

04:37:14.000 --> 04:37:18.560
where a dude who makes a song that's this fucking

04:37:18.560 --> 04:37:22.979
good isn't a superstar. Listen to this shit.

04:37:32.040 --> 04:37:37.279
Sounds like the Black Keys. 1969. Listen to this

04:37:37.279 --> 04:37:54.139
guy. Yeah, dude. Damn. It does sound modern because

04:37:54.139 --> 04:37:57.319
the way they cut records now is just like...

04:38:01.200 --> 04:38:32.459
They chase that retro vibe. Yeah. What year was

04:38:32.459 --> 04:38:36.080
this? 69, son. His distortion is crazy on that

04:38:36.080 --> 04:38:47.680
guitar. That tone is amazing. God damn, this

04:38:47.680 --> 04:38:53.020
is good. I'm going to get out my phone. I'll

04:38:53.020 --> 04:38:56.279
send it to you. Please, thank you. I will not

04:38:56.279 --> 04:38:58.659
forget. This is one of my favorite songs. I fucking

04:38:58.659 --> 04:39:01.099
love this song. I listen to this song every night

04:39:01.099 --> 04:39:03.639
in my green room. That's like mandatory listening.

04:39:03.860 --> 04:39:06.139
Yeah, that shit is. I listen to Open the Gates.

04:39:06.259 --> 04:39:08.080
That's the first song we listen to when I get

04:39:08.080 --> 04:39:10.939
in the room because it's a crazy song. It's just

04:39:10.939 --> 04:39:15.680
a good way to get it going. What is this? This

04:39:15.680 --> 04:39:18.580
is the other version of it? He covered this version

04:39:18.580 --> 04:39:21.700
of it. Yeah. Their version sucks. Oh, yeah? This

04:39:21.700 --> 04:39:26.520
version. Listen to this. It's slower. Listen

04:39:26.520 --> 04:39:31.509
to this, though. They got good monthly listeners.

04:39:32.369 --> 04:39:34.650
They got 1 .7 million. Well, it's Tommy James

04:39:34.650 --> 04:39:37.169
and the Shondells. They're very famous. I don't

04:39:37.169 --> 04:39:40.729
know them. Really? No. Oh, yeah, they're a 1960s

04:39:40.729 --> 04:39:45.610
band. I would like to see Joe Rogan with, like,

04:39:45.630 --> 04:39:47.810
a mod haircut. Yeah, I'd go for it, bro. You'd

04:39:47.810 --> 04:39:49.950
look cool. Full of hair, I'd get mutton chops.

04:39:50.330 --> 04:39:53.349
Let's go, baby. Give me them fucking big collars,

04:39:53.349 --> 04:39:57.630
bitch. Elvis covers. Let's go. Do I make you

04:39:57.630 --> 04:39:59.709
rendy? There's a country version of it, too,

04:39:59.729 --> 04:40:02.250
with Kenny Chesney and Dave Matthews. Okay, let's

04:40:02.250 --> 04:40:04.189
hear a little bit of that. Let's hear a little

04:40:04.189 --> 04:40:08.389
bit of that. Man, actually, it's called I'm Alive.

04:40:08.389 --> 04:40:09.889
This could be a different song before we get

04:40:09.889 --> 04:40:11.430
too far. It sounds very different. Yeah. All

04:40:11.430 --> 04:40:13.150
right, I'll just skip that. It sounds very different,

04:40:13.229 --> 04:40:15.650
unless they completely whitened it up. It's not

04:40:15.650 --> 04:40:19.619
an unoriginal. They brutalized it. Kenny Chesney

04:40:19.619 --> 04:40:22.299
does not have the mod haircut, man. Yeah. But

04:40:22.299 --> 04:40:26.119
that song, it's a perfect song. It's like, just

04:40:26.119 --> 04:40:29.319
leave it alone. Yeah, you get so much with it.

04:40:29.340 --> 04:40:32.259
That song's perfect. That song's so good, man.

04:40:32.380 --> 04:40:37.000
It's got so much fucking feeling to it. And nobody

04:40:37.000 --> 04:40:38.540
heard about it. It's on the cover by them, by

04:40:38.540 --> 04:40:40.400
the way. What's that? That's not the same song.

04:40:40.500 --> 04:40:42.959
Oh, of course. Yeah, it didn't seem like it as

04:40:42.959 --> 04:40:45.319
you were playing it. You'd have to have big balls

04:40:45.319 --> 04:40:47.680
to cover that song after Johnny Thunder. It's

04:40:47.680 --> 04:40:49.560
just so good, man. Great name, too. Yeah, what

04:40:49.560 --> 04:40:54.259
a great name. Not a porn star name at all. Johnny

04:40:54.259 --> 04:40:58.520
Thunder. Joe Rogan, I got to pee. All right,

04:40:58.520 --> 04:41:00.220
my brother. Let's wrap this up. I love you. I

04:41:00.220 --> 04:41:01.720
love you, too. I appreciate you very much, man.

04:41:01.720 --> 04:41:03.020
Thank you for having me, sir. You're a fun dude.

04:41:03.060 --> 04:41:04.259
Thank you, sir. It's always fun to talk to you.

04:41:04.279 --> 04:41:05.919
Let's do it more often. I would absolutely love

04:41:05.919 --> 04:41:07.540
to. All right. And I'll see you tomorrow night.

04:41:07.819 --> 04:41:09.319
Yes, sir. Oh, we're going to go to the mothership

04:41:09.319 --> 04:41:10.500
tonight. Yeah, no, we're fucking going party.

04:41:10.619 --> 04:41:12.840
Let's go. Bye, everybody. Good night. I love

04:41:12.840 --> 04:41:15.479
you guys. Be safe. Keep being amazing. Have a

04:41:15.479 --> 04:41:16.700
great night, guys. I love you.