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Welcome to this curated educational transcript of the Joe Rogan Experience. In this session, we provide a deep-dive examination of the critical perspectives and historical dialogues presented in Episode #1788. Our mission is to offer a high-fidelity, searchable research resource for students of cultural history, emerging technology, and global discourse. This transcript has been specifically optimized for academic reference, linguistic study, and archival preservation regarding Digital Media Economics, Viral Content Algorithms, and Philanthropy in the Creator Economy
The Joe Rogan Experience. Showing by day, Joe

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Rogan Podcast by night. All day. Wow. I've done

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quite a few. I've never... Okay. Here, hold up.

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Just talk to me for like a minute. Okay. This

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is so freaky to me. Is it really? Yeah, to hear

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my own voice. We need to put this on the video.

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Okay, good. We're recording already. Have you

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ever had a guest freak out about that? No, you're

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the first freak out because of headphones. not

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headphones no it's because I hear my own voice

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I'm very conscious of that so now I'm like fuck

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my inflection or whatever is it sounds fine okay

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no I know it sounds fine it's just fuck whatever

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I'll suck it up you don't have like a button

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you can press to kill it no what the fuck so

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when you play video games you don't hear yourself

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right no yeah I don't either but Yeah, I hear

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it's different. Sorry. Yeah, don't worry about

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it, dude. That's what you sound like. Now you

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know. I mean, I've seen videos. I knew what I

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sound like just in real time hearing it. It sounds

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like I'm speaking to myself. Fuck it. But you're

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not. You're speaking to me. The purpose of it

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is when you and I talk and we can hear each other's

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voice at the same sound level, we don't talk

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over each other. Because people tend to talk

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over each other. It's just normal. In one -on

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-one conversations? Yeah, it's a normal conversation.

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People talk over each other, accidentally. But

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when you hear both sounds, both voices, at the

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same sound level, it sounds really clunky in

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your ears. It's imperative when you have three

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people. If you have three people and you don't

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have headphones on, it'll be a disaster. Everyone

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starts talking over each other. And then when

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you're listening to it, it's unlistenable. It's

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hard to... That makes sense. Alright, so we're

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just rolling right now? We're rolling, man. What's

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happening? How are you? First of all, let me

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just tell you how impressed I am with what you've

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done. I think what you've done is amazing. Because

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your channel and what you've done on YouTube

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is completely unique. It's completely you. Your

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personality comes through. The way you've crafted

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these things that people have to do. These tasks

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and these games and this fun shit you do. And

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it's wildly popular. And I didn't know about

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it until, I guess, about a year. ago. I told

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you my 11 -year -old is fucking obsessed with

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your show. Obsessed. And she told me, and we

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were in a hotel in Vegas. I was there for the

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UFC, and she was watching YouTube. I'm like,

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what are you watching? She's like, oh my god,

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it's Mr. Beast. And she was so into the show,

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and then I watched it, and I was like, wow, this

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is actually really entertaining. It's fun stuff,

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man. Thank you. Yeah, it's been crazy, because

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I've been doing it since I was 11. Really? Yeah,

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so now I'm 23, and so it's just like, basically

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every... a year it just got crazier and crazier

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and i used to make a dollar a day back well the

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first few years i wasn't even making money off

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youtube but once i started making money i was

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making a dollar a day and i saved up for a couple

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months i bought a microphone saved up for half

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a year i got a computer and i've just always

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reinvested it and so it's like literally just

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all i mean i was like as awkward as they came

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uh no money no nothing and i just basically just

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obsessed over youtube every day for a decade

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are your first episodes available the 11 when

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you're 11 years old uh no because i i had a friend

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when i was 13 that found my channel and so i

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deleted like all the videos i got really self

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-conscious uh oh no but so everything from 13

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and up is there and yeah they're terrible that's

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still cool yeah so what did you do when you first

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started like what was the first idea uh the very

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first video um weirdly enough I played this stupid

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game and some hacker like killed my base when

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I was 11 and so I uploaded it and my first video

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got 20 ,000 views like instantly because it was

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like all the people that played the game was

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like oh shit you can hack in this game. It's

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a game called Battle Pirates. I guarantee you

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no one listens. What is it called? Battle Pirates.

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No one here has ever heard of it. Battle Card?

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Battle Pirates. Battle Pirates. Yeah it was a

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really small game but I uploaded that and it

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got 20 ,000 views and that was probably the best

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thing that could have ever happened to me because

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then I was hooked from day one. Literally like

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most people it takes hundreds of videos before

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you get like one view. And somehow the very first

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video I uploaded at 11 got like 20 ,000 views.

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And then I was just like, oh, I fell in love.

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And I've been hooked ever since. Wow. So it was

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kind of almost by accident. Essentially, yeah.

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It was that. Because this was way before YouTube

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was even a thing. No one was really a YouTuber.

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Hardly anyone made money. When did YouTube first

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get launched? Like 2006 or whatever. YouTube

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was a thing, but the partner program wasn't really

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a thing. No one was making money. It was definitely

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back before it was cool. When I was doing YouTube

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when I was 14 and 15, now it's cool if you want

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to be a YouTuber in high school or middle school.

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Back then, no one gave a fuck. You're just worried

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they would try to play your videos in class or

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make fun of you or stuff like that for it. But

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how did it evolve to what it is now? Was it a

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vision? Was it a slow, sort of a gradual increase

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in numbers? Yeah, I mean it's about as slow as

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it gets. When I was a young teenager, I was getting

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no views, had no money, had no equipment. So

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for the most part, it was just like I was just

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trying to scrounge money so I could buy equipment

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because I was using my brother's old laptop.

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And so like my first couple hundred videos, I

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didn't have a microphone. Like imagine just like

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crackly, terrible voice. And so once I got monetized,

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I saved up for a few months. Like I told you,

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I bought a microphone. I can just give you a

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mile high history. And I saved up for like six

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months. I mean, I was just doing video game videos

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and they were terrible. But I saved up. I had

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a real computer. So now I can actually record

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the video game at high quality. I have a microphone.

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I'm like 15. And I just kept going and going.

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Trying to figure out what are some of the hot

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spots. I essentially... Up until 18, I had been

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doing YouTube pretty religiously, but I was making

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no money. Like, this is kind of the turning point

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was when I graduated from high school. And my

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whole life, I was like, I want to be making enough

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money by the time I graduated to do this full

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time. And I wasn't. I was still only making a

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couple hundred bucks a month. So I graduated

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high school. And my mom was like, either move

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out or go to a community college. And I didn't

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have enough money to move out. But I really just,

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I hated school with a passion. But she forced

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me to go to community college. And that was the

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worst thing ever. made me hate life like borderline

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suicidal i just can't stand like having to just

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sit there and listen to this dumb stuff and listen

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to some teacher read out a book so what i did

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was i would act like i was going to community

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college but i would just work on videos in my

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car and edit and stuff like that i had straight

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zeros and so now the clock had started because

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like once my mom found out i was screwed um were

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you aware of that like yeah you're running a

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risk yeah exactly and so i would act like i was

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going to college that whole time but i wasn't

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and i didn't have enough money to move out and

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that was kind of when I was just like 15 hours

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a day, all in, I was like, I'm fucked if this

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doesn't work. And I actually, I had some videos

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pop off. I couldn't tell you which ones, but

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I had a month where I made 20 grand because I

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just had some videos just do really, really well.

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And then I came home and I was like, yeah, I

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haven't been going to college. And I moved out

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the next day. My mom almost had a heart attack

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because she doesn't understand YouTube or anything

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back then. And she just was like, she was like,

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man, this guy's going to work at McDonald's.

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I wasted all this time. Like I invested 18 years

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in this one. Where were you living? What part

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of the country? North Carolina. That's where

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I've lived almost my whole life. And so how does

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she feel now? Oh, she's great. Is she flabbergasted?

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She's beyond happy. Yeah, she loves it. Put her

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in front of her friends. She loves talking about

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it, obviously. Oh, I always knew little Jimmy

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was going to be a success. No, she doesn't try

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to hide it. We would fight all the time. Even

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in high school, I never once studied. I literally

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wouldn't even take my books home. I legit don't

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think I studied once all of high school at my

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house. And so we would fight a lot. I didn't

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have the best grades. And so I would just make

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videos, and she didn't understand it, especially

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because back then it was just a whole different

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world. There wasn't really a thing as a full

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-time YouTuber and stuff. And so it was a lot

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of arguments, a lot of drama, but it ended up

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working out. She's happy. The thing is it's like

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nobody saw this coming, right? So you can't blame

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her. Especially me. In the middle of North Carolina

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in a small town, I had horrible acne. Especially

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back then, really awkward. It's like no one –

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people would have bet a million dollars that

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I wouldn't be a YouTuber. It makes no sense.

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But I just like – I have hyper obsession and

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I love this. And given enough time, anyone can

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solve it. Well, there's a lesson in that for

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people really. Like to just – if you do have

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a hyper obsession to something, there's a lot

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of people that think that because they're bad

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at school or because they're not interested in

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school that they're destined to be a loser. And

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that's not true. The problem is school is too

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rigid. Like regular public school system, sit

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down, underpaid teacher. Disinterested, not really

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connected with the work. You're not connected

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with it. You just can't wait to go home and do

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what you like to do. Exactly. And you get this

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thought in your head like, oh, my God, I'm going

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to be a loser. I mean, that's how I was when

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I was in high school. I thought I was going to

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be a loser. Well, and you take it a step further

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because I thought, especially if you're, like,

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extremely passionate about something at a young

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age, where most kids are, then you're even, it's

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more exacerbated that it's like, you know, I

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didn't talk to anyone. I hardly had any friends

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because I was so obsessed with YouTube. Back

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then, just no one cared. So it's like, I thought

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I was just like... just didn't even know how

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to speak. Literally, I just couldn't hold a conversation

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with a single person because people would just

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tell me all you talk about is YouTube, and I

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would try to talk about something else, but back

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then I was so hyper -obsessed that I literally

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just didn't know how to. What were you obsessed

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about? Were you obsessed about other channels,

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your channel? Everything, from learning how to

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editing, the pacing of the videos, ideas, what's

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going viral, what's trending, what's hot. Especially

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back then, I had no idea what worked. I had to

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self -teach myself everything, even frame rate

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on cameras, coloring of the videos. Just stuff

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like that. And how did you learn? Did you learn

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from YouTube? Yeah. So YouTube videos and tutorials

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or something? Most of my growth came actually

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after I graduated high school. Basically what

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I did was I somehow found these other like four

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lunatics. Three of us were college dropouts.

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One was a high school dropout. And one, I don't

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know, he just like quit his job. We were all

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super small YouTubers. And we basically talked.

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every day for a thousand days in a row and did

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nothing but just like hyper study. Like what

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makes a good video? What makes a good thumbnail?

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What's good pacing? Like how to go viral. And

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we would just call it like daily masterminds.

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We would just get on Skype every morning. And

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like some days, like I'd get on Skype at 7 a

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.m. and I'd be in the call until like 10 p .m.

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And then I'd go to bed. I'd wake up and I'd do

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it again. And, you know, we'd do things like

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take a thousand thumbnails and see if like there's

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a correlation to the brightness of the thumbnail

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to how many views it got. Or like, you know,

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like videos that get over 10 million views. is

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how often do they cut the camera angles or things

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like that. Really? So you micro -analyzed everything?

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Yeah. We were very religious about it. And so

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that's where most of my knowledge came from is

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I just surround myself with these lunatics and

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just every day, we didn't do anything. We had

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no life. But everybody had sort of a similar

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vision. Yeah, exactly. So we all had like 10

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,000, 20 ,000 subscribers when we met. And by

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the time we stopped talking, we all had millions

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of subscribers. And we all hit a million subscribers

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within a month. It's crazy. because it's like

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if you envision a world where you're trying to

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be great at something and it's just like You

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learning and fucking up and learning from your

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mistakes. Also, my mom told me not to curse.

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Sorry, mom. If someone could just edit out the

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swear words and give it to me. Sorry, mom. Yeah,

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so I could give it to my mom to listen to. That

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would be great. But you mess up, you learn from

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your mistake, you mess up, you learn from your

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mistake. You in two years might have learned

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from 20 mistakes. Or if you have four other people

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who are also messing up, and when they learn

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from their mistake, they teach you what they

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learned. Hypothetically, you two years down the

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road have learned five times more of the amount

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of stuff. So it just helps you. grow exponentially

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way quicker, if that makes any sense. It does.

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It does. But it's interesting that you thought

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about it that way in sort of a systematic approach.

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Exactly. This is not dumb luck. No. I mean, it

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was like they say 10 ,000 hours of mass or something.

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We probably put in like 40 ,000, 50 ,000 hours.

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We're talking like every day, all day, like literally

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nothing. We had no friends outside of the group.

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That was your life. I'm actually rereading that

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book right now, that Malcolm Gladwell book, Outliers,

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that talks about that 10 ,000 hours principle.

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It totally applies to what you did, 100%. I mean,

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it sounds like you were just all day, every day.

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Which makes sense. What do you have now, 90 million

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subscribers? Well, across everything, we're closing

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in on 200 million subscribers. Have you seen

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our dub channels? No. Can you pull that up? Just

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search MrBeast and Estefaniel. I'm kind of curious

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why you don't do this. We do our videos in other

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languages as well. Really? Yeah. Wow. I can't

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wait to show you this because I actually have

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a really cool story. Just go to the channel.

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Who does this? We do. So you hire someone? Yeah,

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we have voice actors and everything. Wow. So

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these are the exact same videos on my main channel,

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but we pay voice actors to dub over them. We

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translate the text in the video, everything.

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Mr. Beast in Espanol. Yeah, that was actually

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one of the fastest growing channels last year.

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That's so smart. Okay, now click on a video so

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we can kind of hear it. And so scroll down so

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you can see the comments. It's all in Spanish.

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That's dope. Yeah, so that's now just, I won't

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pull them all up. Any other countries? Yeah,

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search MrBeastBrazil. We do a bunch of them.

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Oh, so you got a Portuguese translator as well.

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Wow, that's dope. Yeah, same thing here. I love

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it. Oh, man, what a great idea, man. Yeah, and

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so. Because if you Google it, it's like only

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whatever. Less than 10 % of the world speaks

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English. So 90 % of the world can't even enjoy

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your content. And when I realized that, I was

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like, wait a minute. 90 % of the world can't

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even watch this stuff. And so go back to the

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Spanish one real quick because that's our biggest

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one. And sorry for anyone watching who doesn't

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have the visuals. So set it to most popular.

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We just started doing this like six months ago.

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And it's crazy how viral some of these videos

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are going. Wow, 51 million. Yeah. The problem

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with me is like... I don't know if someone's

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going to translate it, if they're going to say

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exactly what I said. Well, you have quality control.

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So we have like, before a video gets uploaded,

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we have three different people who basically

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write the transcript. And then if the words don't

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line up on all three, then, or sorry. let me

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think about the process we have something like

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that because I was worried about that as well

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I think we take the original transcript and then

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we have it dubbed and then after stuff we have

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like two different people write out and if it

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doesn't line up with the original then there's

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like it's a red flag and we look at it interesting

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yeah we built some system where I don't have

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to worry about that and the final point is in

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Spanish the guy who does my dubs is the same

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guy who dubs Spiderman we managed to convince

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him so a lot of those comments are like why does

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he sound like Spiderman or is Mr. B Spiderman

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that's hilarious yeah and so what we do when

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we go into these markets we get celebrities to

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do my voice so then like the local people in

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the language freak out so like Japan's coming

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up and I can't say who but we secured like a

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giant voice actor from an anime to do my doves

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and whenever we launch in Japan I know they're

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gonna lose their freaking minds that's a brilliant

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idea that's so smart so you have how many employees

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then? I mean, across everything, over 100. I

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don't know. Wow. And what are you, 23? Yeah.

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That's crazy. Yeah, it's wild. I think I just

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had the blessing of finding what I loved at a

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young age. To get to this level, it takes a decade.

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Most people don't find what they love until their

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young 20s, so they'd be where I'm at in their

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30s. I just lucked out and found it when I was

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really young. It's that, but it's also your vision.

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One of the things that I was really impressed

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by when I started looking into you after my daughter

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introduced me is that you invest so much money

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into the show. All the money I make. Why do I

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need money? So you don't go crazy? You don't

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have a Ferrari or anything nuts? No. I think

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living your life chasing a nicer, nicer car and

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a bigger and bigger box to live in is kind of

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a dumb way to go about life. Yeah. Yeah. So I

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actually, funny enough, I lived in a super below

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average home. And I kind of learned why famous

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people don't live in a... below average homes

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because someone broke in, stole everything I

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owned. So I had to get a little nicer house for

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security reasons. But before I was robbed, my

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place was like a little duplex, $700 a month.

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You get a roommate's 360 split. Right. Yeah,

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and just drive a normal car. Well, now I drive

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a Tesla just because of getting off of gas and

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stuff like that. But, yeah. So you don't go crazy

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at all with cash? I really try not to. I think

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that's just a bad way to go about life. Also,

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it is a little hypocritical because I run a nonprofit.

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Have you seen our Beast Philanthropy channel?

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No. Can you pull that up as well? We do a lot

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of stuff for helping people. And so also if I

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lived in a $10 million mansion while I'm feeding

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people and trying to help people, in my eyes,

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it's also a little hypocritical as well. So in

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every area, I feel like it's just better if I

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just live below my means. You're just very wise

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for a young man because a lot of 23 -year -olds

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will be. Balling out of their fucking mind right

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now. Zoom out. Well, yeah, I also have some stories

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about that, too. You do? Yeah, because I did

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have a phase where I did ball out a little bit,

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and then I realized, yeah, this doesn't make

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me happy. What did you do during the balling

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out phase? I bought an i8. And I also bought

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some designer clothes, like some $1 ,000 shirts

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and stuff like that. Ironically, all of which

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was stolen when my house was broken into. So

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it was kind of perfect because I was like, I

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don't know if I really care about this stuff

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anymore. And then someone just stole all my expensive

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shit. And I was like, perfect. Did you set aside

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a bunch of fuck you money at least so that you

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never have to worry about money again? I've always

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reinvested back in the channel. Sometimes I run

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out of money and I have to take it alone. Really?

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Yeah. You've taken a loan? Multiple times. But

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you're making astounding amounts of money. Yeah,

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but hypothetically if like, you know. do a brand

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deal and a brand owes you half a million dollars,

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sometimes they don't pay for four months. I already

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spent that half a million dollars when I gave

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it away in that video. It's never been a point

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where I'm negative. Technically, money's inbound,

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but sometimes you just have to wait. I got to

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keep going and keep filming. Wow. It's very unusual

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that someone would spend that much money reinvesting

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in the show. Which, ironically, is why we made

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more money last year than any other YouTuber

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on the platform. The thing is... Like for YouTube,

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a lot of people are very young. And so I think

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it's like there's so much money in this industry,

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but most people are so young that they just don't

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even realize the opportunity they have and they

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don't understand a lot of these things. And so

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I think that's like it shouldn't be revolutionary

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that I reinvest all my money. Like that's something

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businesses have been doing for centuries. You

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know what I mean? It's not that crazy. But I

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think just like I was saying, like people are

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just so young and they don't understand like.

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you know, the opportunity you have here. I mean,

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if you have 50 million people that watch everything

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you do, you can start a business and you can

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do anything. You know what I mean? It's very

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valuable. Well, the thing is, is that you're

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treating this like an established business. And

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I think there's a lot of people that get into

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YouTube and they're just, they have no idea what

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they're doing and they have no business sense.

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And even though you didn't pay attention in school,

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you're obviously wise enough to recognize that

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the right thing to do is to invest. That's what

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makes it unusual. Because, like, you give a 23

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-year -old the kind of money that you're making,

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most of them are going to just go fucking crazy.

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Think even younger, because I started getting

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money when I was 19, 20. And so there's so many

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things I want to say on that, because I agree,

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and I feel like I have some good advice to add

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for people in those positions. There's a couple

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things. First off, to be this successful as a

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YouTuber, you kind of have to understand there's

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three different pillars that get us where we

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are. You have to have the business sense, reinvest,

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hire, scale up. I mean, the things we're doing

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are huge logistical nightmares. Have you ever

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tried to buy a private island and you buy a private

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island and there's no beach and so you have to

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terraform a beach and build a pier and stuff

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like that? Is that what you did? Yeah. You guys

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bought an island? Yeah, because we did a video

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where Last Leave Island keeps it. And so we buy

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an island and it looks better on the internet.

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and you go see it, and there's no beach. Well,

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fuck. Now you've got to import 5 ,000 pounds

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of sand and stuff like that. Where's the island?

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Somewhere in the Bahamas. Someone won it. Someone

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won a fucking island? Yeah. We're actually about

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to do something similar again coming up. How

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much does an island cost? That one was like 800

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grand, and then we put like 100 grand into renovating

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it. Wow. How big is the island? It's huge, like

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three football fields or something like that.

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It took quite a while to walk to the other side.

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This is it? Yeah. Yeah, that one. I bought this

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entire island. You can get an island for $800

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,000? Yeah, in the Bahamas. That's kind of a

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shock. How many islands are in the Bahamas? I'm

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going to be honest. I have no idea. But that

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beach you see there, we had to build that beach.

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Really? Yeah. So that sand wasn't there. We had

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to import it. So it was just like rocky coastline?

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Exactly. And we needed a beach to film on. So

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we basically had to build a south part. And so

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did you put a house up there? No. Or is it just

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an island? The person who won it just sold it.

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Oh, did they really? Yeah. Right away? Yeah.

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He was like, I don't fucking want it. I was like,

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well, then sell it. And so these people, how

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do you find them? This one. The contestants.

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It's different for every video. This one, I'd

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have to see them all in particular. This one

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was a mix of random people and my boys. The hard

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thing is sometimes I love pulling random people,

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but. If you grab random people, sometimes people

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just don't know how to act on camera, and they

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freeze up, and they're really not good for content.

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And so in an ideal world, everyone in my videos

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is just purely random, which is what I'm trying

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to get towards because I'm trying to get better

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at filtering out the random people that just

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freeze up and aren't good on camera. That one's

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a little older, so some of those are people I

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knew because I knew they'd make good content.

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Because I would bring someone in a video, and

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they'd win something, and they'd just freeze

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up, and they'd do nothing. They'd just be like,

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oh, thanks. And then all the comments are like,

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no one just says, oh, thanks, when you win a—

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hundred grand this is fake mr beast is fake all

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this is fake i'm like no it's real the fact that

00:21:35.069 --> 00:21:36.730
he's acting like that shows it's real but like

00:21:36.730 --> 00:21:39.049
the masses don't understand that so i have to

00:21:39.049 --> 00:21:42.089
be like very like strategic on how i pick people

00:21:42.089 --> 00:21:44.009
or everyone's just like oh this is fake they

00:21:44.009 --> 00:21:46.170
didn't they didn't react so how do you pick people

00:21:46.170 --> 00:21:48.450
do you have an audition do you have a conversation

00:21:48.450 --> 00:21:51.470
with them do you meet them i literally just hired

00:21:51.470 --> 00:21:53.630
a casting director and usually we just like get

00:21:53.630 --> 00:21:55.589
large amounts of people they filter through and

00:21:55.589 --> 00:21:57.650
we're just looking for like people a do they

00:21:57.650 --> 00:21:59.769
need it like do they actually need this help

00:21:59.769 --> 00:22:01.279
would have been to fit their life you know obviously

00:22:01.279 --> 00:22:04.259
they can't be super rich and then also it's literally

00:22:04.259 --> 00:22:06.359
just like put a camera in front of them and do

00:22:06.359 --> 00:22:08.220
they freeze up that's it i just can't have people

00:22:08.220 --> 00:22:10.299
like freezing up because then it just like it

00:22:10.299 --> 00:22:12.079
i don't know it's just not content and it's i

00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:13.819
can't just pause the show and like explain like

00:22:13.819 --> 00:22:16.039
oh they're not talking right now because they

00:22:16.039 --> 00:22:19.180
you know so when they meet you is it for the

00:22:19.180 --> 00:22:21.680
first time yeah when we film it's usually for

00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:25.160
the first time So the casting person sets everything

00:22:25.160 --> 00:22:28.359
up, and they get these applicants from— It really

00:22:28.359 --> 00:22:30.099
just depends on the video. Because some videos,

00:22:30.180 --> 00:22:33.519
like Squid Game, there's 456 people. That one,

00:22:33.660 --> 00:22:35.799
we dropped a shirt. We grabbed 100 random people

00:22:35.799 --> 00:22:37.519
that bought the shirt. And then the other 356

00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:39.440
we just got from a local college. We literally

00:22:39.440 --> 00:22:41.660
just went there, put out flyers, and the first

00:22:41.660 --> 00:22:44.079
356 people that called, we just brought them

00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:46.759
in. You brought them in, but did you vet them?

00:22:46.920 --> 00:22:48.559
No, because there were so many people. That's

00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:49.779
what I'm saying. It's like different videos.

00:22:49.960 --> 00:22:52.440
Did you see that Squid Game video? I saw part

00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:54.839
of it, yeah. Yeah, that was wild. That was the

00:22:54.839 --> 00:22:56.519
most expensive thing we've ever done. How much

00:22:56.519 --> 00:22:58.880
did it cost? A little over $4 million. Jesus

00:22:58.880 --> 00:23:01.480
Christ. Yeah, because we had CG, recreated all

00:23:01.480 --> 00:23:03.839
the sets. And the thing is, there's not really

00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:07.839
room for error. This shit has to work. And so

00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:10.640
engineering, like the glass bridge, we legit

00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:13.079
had to build the glass bridge. We dropped them

00:23:13.079 --> 00:23:15.809
and safety and all that stuff. And when you're

00:23:15.809 --> 00:23:17.609
doing this, are you bringing in stunt people?

00:23:17.910 --> 00:23:21.609
How are you coordinating all this to set up challenges?

00:23:21.769 --> 00:23:23.549
If you're doing something where you drop people

00:23:23.549 --> 00:23:25.309
off a – how do you make sure that they don't

00:23:25.309 --> 00:23:27.789
die? Well, there's foam below it, and obviously

00:23:27.789 --> 00:23:30.829
it's safe. Everything we do, we safety test beyond

00:23:30.829 --> 00:23:32.950
belief. That video we had over 100 different

00:23:32.950 --> 00:23:37.960
people working on. Wow. I don't even know how

00:23:37.960 --> 00:23:39.240
many people we had working on that Clash Bridge

00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:40.980
thing. That one was very stressful. Because it's

00:23:40.980 --> 00:23:42.680
also, it's like, you know, you spot a trend.

00:23:42.819 --> 00:23:44.380
Squid Game's hot. It's not like you have six

00:23:44.380 --> 00:23:46.200
months to pull it off. It's like, fuck, this

00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:47.640
is hot. It's not going to be hot in a couple

00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:49.279
months. Like, if we're doing it, we got to do

00:23:49.279 --> 00:23:51.920
it in the next month. And so it's like, it was

00:23:51.920 --> 00:23:53.779
basically like three or four warehouses just

00:23:53.779 --> 00:23:55.859
filled with, like, these crazy, like, sets. And

00:23:55.859 --> 00:23:59.880
all this stuff has to move concurrently. Yeah,

00:23:59.880 --> 00:24:01.640
I mean, it's hard without the visuals to even

00:24:01.640 --> 00:24:03.500
begin to explain it. Because, like, the first

00:24:03.500 --> 00:24:05.119
set we had was, like, literally, like, the size

00:24:05.119 --> 00:24:06.599
of a football field. And we need to go to the

00:24:06.599 --> 00:24:08.859
very beginning. Yeah, that's the glass bridge

00:24:08.859 --> 00:24:10.680
one. But, yeah, look at this set. Like, those

00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:12.859
are real walls we built. Those things are fucking

00:24:12.859 --> 00:24:16.500
huge. Sorry, Mom, for swearing. Sorry, Mom. Yeah.

00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:20.500
Oh, well. Like, you can't even tell the scale

00:24:20.500 --> 00:24:22.920
of how big that room is in the shot. But that's

00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:26.240
456 people. and look how tiny they are what are

00:24:26.240 --> 00:24:28.960
you hitting them with uh so again again this

00:24:28.960 --> 00:24:32.160
is like crazy stuff that people don't even realize

00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:34.279
we have to do. So we had to build these squibs

00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:37.000
on them so when people got out, because in Squid

00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:38.940
Game you got shot when you got out, we can't

00:24:38.940 --> 00:24:40.839
shoot people. So the next best thing is we put

00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:42.660
a device on them that when they get out, it just

00:24:42.660 --> 00:24:45.299
shoots out ink to signify that they got out.

00:24:45.460 --> 00:24:47.839
So everyone had a device strapped to their chest

00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:49.440
that we had to custom build and we had to build

00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:51.940
software in an app and then we had like a hundred

00:24:51.940 --> 00:24:54.279
spotters around. So if I said red light and they

00:24:54.279 --> 00:24:56.099
kept moving, the spotter would click the app

00:24:56.099 --> 00:24:58.839
on their app and basically pop their squib. So

00:24:58.839 --> 00:25:00.890
you They developed an app specifically just for

00:25:00.890 --> 00:25:03.250
this? Yeah. That's hilarious. I wish I had it

00:25:03.250 --> 00:25:05.269
on me. And so you would see all 456 people. You'd

00:25:05.269 --> 00:25:07.410
see their face. And then when they got out, the

00:25:07.410 --> 00:25:08.789
spotter would pop them out. That's the thing.

00:25:09.109 --> 00:25:11.029
There's so much stuff that goes on behind the

00:25:11.029 --> 00:25:13.069
scenes to make this stuff happen that people

00:25:13.069 --> 00:25:14.869
don't even realize. And that's why no one else

00:25:14.869 --> 00:25:18.569
does what we do because it's stressful. It's

00:25:18.569 --> 00:25:22.640
hard. And it's brutal. Wow. And where did you

00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:25.240
get the doll, the doll that spins its head around?

00:25:26.240 --> 00:25:28.720
That one? You built that? Yeah, some company

00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:31.599
in Europe, they built it for us. It was like

00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:33.299
50 grand. What do you do with that after you're

00:25:33.299 --> 00:25:35.000
done with it? That's the problem because none

00:25:35.000 --> 00:25:36.900
of our videos are the same. It's like usually

00:25:36.900 --> 00:25:38.700
we give stuff away or we just put it in storage.

00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:41.640
But, like, I don't know. Where is that doll now?

00:25:43.400 --> 00:25:45.099
I don't want to lie to you. I have no earthly

00:25:45.099 --> 00:25:47.579
idea. I'll buy it. Oh, you'll buy it? Yeah, I

00:25:47.579 --> 00:25:49.960
want to put that doll in my studio. Okay. I think

00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:52.180
that would be dope as fuck, wouldn't it? A little

00:25:52.180 --> 00:25:53.940
doll head? Come on, man. That thing would be

00:25:53.940 --> 00:25:56.839
cool as shit to have that here. So now skip to

00:25:56.839 --> 00:25:58.980
the next scene. I mean, because I can run you

00:25:58.980 --> 00:26:00.440
through it. That's why, like, this originally

00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:02.619
was supposed to cost $2 million. But as we're

00:26:02.619 --> 00:26:04.119
going through it, it's like, oh, fuck, now it's

00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:06.579
two and a half. Oh, fuck, it's three. And I was

00:26:06.579 --> 00:26:08.359
like, okay, you can't get any more than $3 million.

00:26:08.559 --> 00:26:10.519
And next thing you know, like, you actualize

00:26:10.519 --> 00:26:12.240
the budget afterwards. It's like fucking $4 million.

00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:15.740
Holy shit. And this is, did you have to take

00:26:15.740 --> 00:26:17.940
all this down once you were done? Yeah. So you

00:26:17.940 --> 00:26:20.339
just leased these warehouses? No, we own them.

00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:21.859
Oh, you own them. Okay. Yeah, we have one of

00:26:21.859 --> 00:26:23.720
the largest studios on the East Coast. Oh, so

00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:26.880
you built warehouses specifically so that you

00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:29.109
can. do all kinds of stuff like this well and

00:26:29.109 --> 00:26:30.990
so you can pause it he gets adjusted this that's

00:26:30.990 --> 00:26:33.690
kind of the problem for me it's like we're reinvesting

00:26:33.690 --> 00:26:35.410
so much money in the videos and pushing him to

00:26:35.410 --> 00:26:37.730
the max but I also need space like right because

00:26:37.730 --> 00:26:41.789
like the videos are so big that So you can't

00:26:41.789 --> 00:26:43.250
just work on a video for a week. You've got to

00:26:43.250 --> 00:26:45.210
be working on it months in advance. So you've

00:26:45.210 --> 00:26:46.829
basically got to always be working on, in an

00:26:46.829 --> 00:26:49.049
ideal world, six to ten videos. Well, if one

00:26:49.049 --> 00:26:51.089
video takes up your entire warehouse, how the

00:26:51.089 --> 00:26:52.910
fuck do you work on the other five? So space

00:26:52.910 --> 00:26:55.490
is a huge bottleneck, and I'm in the middle of

00:26:55.490 --> 00:26:56.869
nowhere in North Carolina. There's not tons of

00:26:56.869 --> 00:26:59.470
studio space and stuff like that. So we have...

00:26:59.740 --> 00:27:03.700
three or four studios. The newest one is what

00:27:03.700 --> 00:27:05.559
I call our campus that we built. It's a giant

00:27:05.559 --> 00:27:07.819
$10 million studio. And it's kind of like a money

00:27:07.819 --> 00:27:09.740
game because I want to reinvest and go big on

00:27:09.740 --> 00:27:11.059
videos, but I also need to build infrastructure,

00:27:11.339 --> 00:27:13.660
so it's kind of like a balancing act. But we

00:27:13.660 --> 00:27:17.500
built this huge, it's 70 ,000 square feet, or

00:27:17.500 --> 00:27:20.700
55 ,000 of studio space. Because also the problem

00:27:20.700 --> 00:27:23.400
is if you get warehouses, they always have beams

00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:25.039
and you can't film if there's beams. So it was

00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:29.170
easier just to... renovate this place. Sorry,

00:27:29.210 --> 00:27:30.990
I'm just going on random tangents. No, it's good.

00:27:31.029 --> 00:27:32.970
It's great. I love it. And so basically we have

00:27:32.970 --> 00:27:35.690
this ginormous warehouse, soundproof. I can do

00:27:35.690 --> 00:27:37.029
shit like blow up a car in it because there's

00:27:37.029 --> 00:27:39.049
like a thousand sprinklers that you'll drown

00:27:39.049 --> 00:27:41.690
before you burn to death in there or like light

00:27:41.690 --> 00:27:43.529
a fire or anything, which is good. So we can

00:27:43.529 --> 00:27:45.910
do dumb shit. It's like the perfect wonderland.

00:27:46.029 --> 00:27:47.910
But even then, like even though this place is

00:27:47.910 --> 00:27:49.890
great and it's $10 million, it's still like usually

00:27:49.890 --> 00:27:52.009
only houses one or two videos. So we need to

00:27:52.009 --> 00:27:53.930
build another one. And it's just usually like

00:27:53.930 --> 00:27:56.779
a money game. Now, how much micromanaging? do

00:27:56.779 --> 00:27:59.480
you do because i'm looking at this and i'm seeing

00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:01.220
like you've got everything you've even got the

00:28:01.220 --> 00:28:02.920
cookies like in the shape of the umbrella so

00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:04.859
that you like have to get someone who makes the

00:28:04.859 --> 00:28:06.799
cookies for you but make sure that you could

00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:08.720
still cut them out with that's one of the easiest

00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:12.690
things even that Even that being easy, it's like

00:28:12.690 --> 00:28:14.890
you've got to make sure everything's right. I

00:28:14.890 --> 00:28:17.250
can imagine one screw -up, like if someone makes

00:28:17.250 --> 00:28:19.150
bad cookies that you can't cut through right,

00:28:19.269 --> 00:28:22.890
and they crumble. We do test on test on test

00:28:22.890 --> 00:28:26.210
on test leading up. Dude, this one was crazy,

00:28:26.369 --> 00:28:28.970
the tug -of -war scene. Look at that set. Isn't

00:28:28.970 --> 00:28:32.630
that freaking crazy? That's amazing. So they're

00:28:32.630 --> 00:28:35.390
over foam, so they just drop down into a giant

00:28:35.390 --> 00:28:38.069
pile of foam? That's incredible, dude. That's

00:28:38.069 --> 00:28:40.130
probably one of the coolest shots I've ever gotten.

00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:43.259
Yeah, I mean, this is like something that looks

00:28:43.259 --> 00:28:45.119
like a set from Fear Factor or something. I mean,

00:28:45.140 --> 00:28:46.579
it really looks like a big time. Wait, look at

00:28:46.579 --> 00:28:48.319
this one, too. Pause it there. Look at that shit.

00:28:48.670 --> 00:28:51.269
It's crazy. Yeah. I love it. No, it's really

00:28:51.269 --> 00:28:54.490
cool. I love what you do. I just think it's amazing

00:28:54.490 --> 00:28:57.130
how much dedication you have to this. Thank you.

00:28:57.150 --> 00:28:59.269
Because no one's telling you to do this. This

00:28:59.269 --> 00:29:01.230
is not like you have Universal Studios behind

00:29:01.230 --> 00:29:03.529
you, and they're like, Mr. Beast, this is what

00:29:03.529 --> 00:29:05.710
we planned, and we have hired these people. You're

00:29:05.710 --> 00:29:08.009
doing all this yourself. Taking all the risks,

00:29:08.130 --> 00:29:10.990
coming up with the ideas, and every step. Now

00:29:10.990 --> 00:29:13.200
people, it's like. What's it say? It's like you're

00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:16.339
crazy until you're a genius or whatever. I don't

00:29:16.339 --> 00:29:17.779
know. Not that I think I'm a genius, but it's

00:29:17.779 --> 00:29:20.299
like basically up until like two years ago, every

00:29:20.299 --> 00:29:21.940
step of the way, two people are throwing tomatoes

00:29:21.940 --> 00:29:23.740
and telling you you're stupid for reinvesting.

00:29:23.740 --> 00:29:25.539
Right. Everyone thinks you're off your rocker.

00:29:25.539 --> 00:29:27.480
You've lost your mind. And everyone also thinks

00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:29.460
like the life cycle of YouTubers, like two years.

00:29:29.500 --> 00:29:31.240
And it's like, well, you know, in two years you're

00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:33.059
going to be irrelevant when it's only two years

00:29:33.059 --> 00:29:35.339
if you just don't. do interesting shit, you know?

00:29:35.359 --> 00:29:37.519
Yeah. Well, I think it's two years if you don't

00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.059
continually push yourself. Exactly. Innovate.

00:29:40.160 --> 00:29:42.519
Yeah. If you're innovating, adapting, and, like,

00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:44.240
doing cool stuff, I mean, you can have a career

00:29:44.240 --> 00:29:46.420
as long as 10 years, in my opinion. But that's

00:29:46.420 --> 00:29:48.549
the same in everything, I think. I mean, that's

00:29:48.549 --> 00:29:50.089
the same television shows. How many television

00:29:50.089 --> 00:29:51.950
shows are really popular for a while and then

00:29:51.950 --> 00:29:54.630
they drop off? Yeah, exactly. Because they don't

00:29:54.630 --> 00:29:56.630
innovate. Yeah. Yeah, they get the cookie -cutter

00:29:56.630 --> 00:29:58.990
formula. Also, that video, too, looking at the

00:29:58.990 --> 00:30:01.849
view count reminded me. I think Netflix in total

00:30:01.849 --> 00:30:04.490
has 220 million subscribers, and that video just

00:30:04.490 --> 00:30:08.650
crossed 220 million views. Wow. So it was a big

00:30:08.650 --> 00:30:11.410
dub. Yeah, I mean, obviously it worked. I mean,

00:30:11.430 --> 00:30:13.490
just incredible. Incredible that you were able

00:30:13.490 --> 00:30:16.210
to pull it all off during the time where Squid

00:30:16.210 --> 00:30:18.289
Games was really relevant. Because if that came

00:30:18.289 --> 00:30:20.549
out today, I'm sure it would be really interesting.

00:30:20.650 --> 00:30:22.849
But people wouldn't be obsessed with it like

00:30:22.849 --> 00:30:24.069
they were. No one would give a fuck. Yeah, because

00:30:24.069 --> 00:30:25.769
when Squid Games first came out, I mean, it was

00:30:25.769 --> 00:30:28.089
a phenomenon for like a couple of months. Exactly.

00:30:28.109 --> 00:30:30.529
So you had a small window to act in. Yeah. And

00:30:30.529 --> 00:30:32.349
you had to design everything and build everything.

00:30:32.690 --> 00:30:35.009
And I also want to put out there, I have some

00:30:35.009 --> 00:30:37.049
amazing people on my team. Because that video

00:30:37.049 --> 00:30:39.240
without, like, I mean, I have. arguably some

00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:40.480
of the smartest people in the world when it comes

00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:42.700
to just creating viral content and YouTube and

00:30:42.700 --> 00:30:44.019
stuff like that. Without them, that wouldn't

00:30:44.019 --> 00:30:45.859
be possible. Because it's not like I'm over there

00:30:45.859 --> 00:30:48.619
designing every little set and I'm custom building

00:30:48.619 --> 00:30:50.680
the squibs that we're rigging on them and designing

00:30:50.680 --> 00:30:54.180
the app. It's taken a long time, but I would

00:30:54.180 --> 00:30:55.980
literally, without a doubt in my mind, say we

00:30:55.980 --> 00:30:57.160
have the smartest people in the world when it

00:30:57.160 --> 00:30:59.559
comes to making viral content. And no one else

00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:01.019
can do this type of stuff. You have to be very

00:31:01.019 --> 00:31:02.539
nimble. You have to really think outside the

00:31:02.539 --> 00:31:04.380
box. And it's like, one day you're trying to

00:31:04.380 --> 00:31:05.740
figure out how to secure a sub, the next you're

00:31:05.740 --> 00:31:06.720
trying to figure out how to go to Antarctica,

00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:08.200
the next you're building... Squid Game in real

00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:10.039
life the next year burying me alive for 50 hours

00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:12.819
you know it's like you have to it's like you

00:31:12.819 --> 00:31:15.160
don't find people that specialize in stuff it's

00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:17.180
like just people I don't know, who just have

00:31:17.180 --> 00:31:19.339
a willing to learn and adapt and like, you know,

00:31:19.339 --> 00:31:21.359
keep because it's all different. And how do you

00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:22.940
find these people? How do you find these people

00:31:22.940 --> 00:31:25.519
that you work with? I mean, it's been hard. A

00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:27.779
lot of them are just like lunatics that really

00:31:27.779 --> 00:31:30.700
love doing interesting things because it is fulfilling

00:31:30.700 --> 00:31:32.859
because like it's different. It's not like you're

00:31:32.859 --> 00:31:34.339
going and doing the same cookie cutter stuff

00:31:34.339 --> 00:31:36.380
every day. So a lot of people find that fulfilling.

00:31:36.500 --> 00:31:38.279
And usually it's people with good work ethic

00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:40.099
that want to learn. And then we kind of train

00:31:40.099 --> 00:31:42.799
them up. It's kind of been my best result because,

00:31:42.859 --> 00:31:44.700
like I said, no one specializes in all that stuff.

00:31:44.819 --> 00:31:46.829
You know what I mean? Also, people who work in

00:31:46.829 --> 00:31:49.529
unscripted or, like, shows like that where it's

00:31:49.529 --> 00:31:52.430
not, like, a set plan typically do better in

00:31:52.430 --> 00:31:54.009
our environment. But, like, someone who worked

00:31:54.009 --> 00:31:55.529
– like, if you worked on Wheel of Fortune, you

00:31:55.529 --> 00:31:57.230
would do horrible in our environment. You wouldn't

00:31:57.230 --> 00:31:58.930
even understand. It's like – because, like, you

00:31:58.930 --> 00:32:00.650
know, we don't tell you what to do. We kind of,

00:32:00.670 --> 00:32:01.710
like, give you a little bit of reign to make

00:32:01.710 --> 00:32:03.490
decisions and you got to pivot. And it's like

00:32:03.490 --> 00:32:05.809
– no one knows – we've never built Squid Game

00:32:05.809 --> 00:32:07.390
in real life before. We don't know if it's possible

00:32:07.390 --> 00:32:10.369
to, like, build a 40 -foot wall in this coliseum.

00:32:10.369 --> 00:32:12.269
It's like they might cap you at 35. Well, then

00:32:12.269 --> 00:32:14.230
now you have to decide, well, does 35 still look

00:32:14.230 --> 00:32:16.329
good on Vision? on the camera and stuff like

00:32:16.329 --> 00:32:18.349
that. So it's like people who are also able to

00:32:18.349 --> 00:32:21.390
think for themselves a little bit. So, I mean,

00:32:21.430 --> 00:32:23.789
do you guys have like weekly meetings where you

00:32:23.789 --> 00:32:25.970
talk about this stuff? I mean, we work in the

00:32:25.970 --> 00:32:27.609
office every day. Are you working every day?

00:32:27.750 --> 00:32:29.250
Well, not every day, but you know. Pretty close

00:32:29.250 --> 00:32:30.990
to it. Yeah, I mean, if it's closer to a video,

00:32:31.109 --> 00:32:32.930
you know, it gets crunch time. But like right

00:32:32.930 --> 00:32:34.730
now, we're not even really filming that much

00:32:34.730 --> 00:32:37.990
because we've just had a lot of videos fall through

00:32:37.990 --> 00:32:40.230
because of COVID. Is this stressful to have like

00:32:40.230 --> 00:32:44.109
such a big staff? uh yeah i mean my life is very

00:32:44.109 --> 00:32:45.849
stressful because we haven't even touched on

00:32:45.849 --> 00:32:47.910
like have you seen our gaming channel our reaction

00:32:47.910 --> 00:32:50.069
no i want to get to all that but i just just

00:32:50.069 --> 00:32:52.589
the way the whole thing is structured is fascinating

00:32:52.589 --> 00:32:55.019
to me because Obviously, you're at the top, and

00:32:55.019 --> 00:32:57.339
you're the guy who's calling the shots, and it's

00:32:57.339 --> 00:32:59.539
your channel, but it seems like you've got a

00:32:59.539 --> 00:33:01.420
whole ecosystem under you. Of course. And you're

00:33:01.420 --> 00:33:03.680
fucking 23 years old. I mean, that's wild shit

00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:05.740
to be managing all that. I could step away, and

00:33:05.740 --> 00:33:08.160
those guys could create just the most viral videos

00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:10.960
ever. We have a machine. These people are geniuses.

00:33:11.019 --> 00:33:13.579
I mean, I lucked out with quite a few of them.

00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:15.359
They're really intelligent. The way you put them

00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:17.960
together was just... finding people that you

00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:19.460
thought were interesting? I mean, how long did

00:33:19.460 --> 00:33:23.000
it take to develop a 100 -employee roster? Yeah,

00:33:23.019 --> 00:33:24.960
well, not all 100 are on the main channel, right?

00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:26.759
Because, like, we have the gaming channel, which

00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:29.079
probably has, like, 24 people. Like, on our gaming

00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:31.059
channel, we have, like, four or five people.

00:33:31.099 --> 00:33:32.599
Like, their full -time job is just to build the

00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:34.160
maps. Like, everything we do on Minecraft, we

00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:36.299
custom build, and we custom code stuff. And then

00:33:36.299 --> 00:33:38.019
we have a dozen people that work on a React channel.

00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:39.680
The main channel, I don't know where we're at,

00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:43.990
but it's probably, like, half of it. And I don't

00:33:43.990 --> 00:33:45.509
know. They're just like the people – they just

00:33:45.509 --> 00:33:47.789
come from everywhere. I don't even know how to

00:33:47.789 --> 00:33:49.250
explain it because it's like I basically just

00:33:49.250 --> 00:33:50.829
hired one person a month every month for like

00:33:50.829 --> 00:33:53.470
the last five years essentially. Wow. That's

00:33:53.470 --> 00:33:57.589
amazing. So what is a typical day for you? When

00:33:57.589 --> 00:33:59.529
you're trying to figure out what you're going

00:33:59.529 --> 00:34:02.170
to make a video of next, do you get together

00:34:02.170 --> 00:34:04.750
with your friends and brainstorm? Do you have

00:34:04.750 --> 00:34:07.589
an idea that you come up with while you're driving

00:34:07.589 --> 00:34:10.050
your car or something? So that's where it gets

00:34:10.050 --> 00:34:13.170
interesting. So the difference between a video

00:34:13.170 --> 00:34:14.769
on YouTube, and this is where I can go infinitely

00:34:14.769 --> 00:34:16.730
in -depth, the difference between a video with

00:34:16.730 --> 00:34:19.150
a million views or 10 million views, usually

00:34:19.150 --> 00:34:21.010
isn't that like the 10 million view video, or

00:34:21.010 --> 00:34:22.090
actually a better example would be a million

00:34:22.090 --> 00:34:23.989
views. 30 million views. The video with 30 million

00:34:23.989 --> 00:34:25.929
views usually didn't put in 30 times the effort.

00:34:26.110 --> 00:34:28.190
Like they might have put in two or three times

00:34:28.190 --> 00:34:30.030
the effort and just had a way better idea. Does

00:34:30.030 --> 00:34:32.090
that make sense? Yes. And so once you kind of

00:34:32.090 --> 00:34:34.389
understand that, which I understood, like I kind

00:34:34.389 --> 00:34:36.409
of started to understand that like when I was

00:34:36.409 --> 00:34:39.190
19, you realize that like the idea is so freaking

00:34:39.190 --> 00:34:41.679
important. Like you could. theoretically, most

00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:43.159
YouTubers watching this, you can pull triple

00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:44.699
the views with half the work if you just have

00:34:44.699 --> 00:34:46.800
better ideas. Like, no joke. It's that extreme.

00:34:47.820 --> 00:34:49.739
And so once you realize how important an idea

00:34:49.739 --> 00:34:51.699
is, you just obsess over, well, how do I get

00:34:51.699 --> 00:34:53.980
more ideas? How do I get better ideas? So I used

00:34:53.980 --> 00:34:55.699
to just spend an hour every day brainstorming

00:34:55.699 --> 00:34:58.880
ideas. I don't anymore, but, like, probably,

00:34:58.940 --> 00:35:00.980
like, four years that just every day I'd just

00:35:00.980 --> 00:35:02.440
spend an hour. And I would just do something

00:35:02.440 --> 00:35:04.019
different. One day I'd use a random word generator.

00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:08.170
Like, I don't know, just say a random word. Dog.

00:35:08.170 --> 00:35:11.230
You know, I adopted 100 dogs. I gave my friend

00:35:11.230 --> 00:35:14.090
50 dogs or I gave a dog a million dollars for

00:35:14.090 --> 00:35:16.269
dog treats, whatever. So I take in random words.

00:35:16.349 --> 00:35:18.210
I see what pops in my head. I write those down

00:35:18.210 --> 00:35:21.769
and I take in another random word. And I've studied

00:35:21.769 --> 00:35:24.030
it very intensely. I've tried like lucid dreaming

00:35:24.030 --> 00:35:25.730
to see if I could trick myself to come up with

00:35:25.730 --> 00:35:27.349
ideas while I'm sleeping and stuff like that.

00:35:27.429 --> 00:35:30.050
I work really well when I. intake inspiration,

00:35:30.449 --> 00:35:32.389
and I see what pops in my head, that's like the

00:35:32.389 --> 00:35:33.750
most effective way for me to come up with ideas.

00:35:34.030 --> 00:35:36.889
So it's like, I just try different ways of intaking

00:35:36.889 --> 00:35:38.929
inspiration, whether it be like traveling, random

00:35:38.929 --> 00:35:40.530
words, flipping through a dictionary, things

00:35:40.530 --> 00:35:43.650
like that. And that's always, for me, been the

00:35:43.650 --> 00:35:45.429
way to like consistently come up with good ideas.

00:35:45.789 --> 00:35:49.150
Wow. So you actively seek these ideas out and

00:35:49.150 --> 00:35:51.710
you try to come up with different ways to just

00:35:51.710 --> 00:35:54.170
have them manifest. Yeah, exactly. And then once

00:35:54.170 --> 00:35:56.409
you do, then you sit down with the crew and you

00:35:56.409 --> 00:35:58.789
go, okay, how do we make this? And then... How

00:35:58.789 --> 00:36:00.769
does that work? It's a long time. But then we

00:36:00.769 --> 00:36:03.750
can't start working on the video until we know

00:36:03.750 --> 00:36:07.170
what it is. I have a guy named Tyler who I've

00:36:07.170 --> 00:36:08.809
known for years. I went to high school with.

00:36:08.869 --> 00:36:11.449
He's just phenomenal. And so then we have to

00:36:11.449 --> 00:36:13.150
write the video and actually figure it out. So

00:36:13.150 --> 00:36:14.949
if I want to bury myself alive for 50 hours,

00:36:14.949 --> 00:36:16.949
what does that look like? What are we doing in

00:36:16.949 --> 00:36:18.829
there? Because until you know everything you're

00:36:18.829 --> 00:36:20.570
doing, you can't start working on it. And then

00:36:20.570 --> 00:36:23.809
you come up with it. And then we have our people

00:36:23.809 --> 00:36:26.630
who basically make it happen. But then the problem

00:36:26.630 --> 00:36:28.179
is it's like, oh, well, you're... you wanted

00:36:28.179 --> 00:36:31.119
a giant ball in a coffin. But they're like, oh,

00:36:31.179 --> 00:36:32.579
well, you can't get a giant ball. And so then

00:36:32.579 --> 00:36:35.579
it's just months of back and forth. And this

00:36:35.579 --> 00:36:37.579
is where most people fall apart and why this

00:36:37.579 --> 00:36:38.880
wouldn't work in traditional media. Because it's

00:36:38.880 --> 00:36:40.340
like, you don't write a script and then just

00:36:40.340 --> 00:36:41.539
hand it to them, especially because it's non

00:36:41.539 --> 00:36:45.960
-scripted. So you can't just say, here's what

00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:47.400
we need, and they just do it, and then it magically

00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:49.460
happens. Because once they start working on it,

00:36:49.539 --> 00:36:50.940
there's all these things like, oh, well, this

00:36:50.940 --> 00:36:52.599
is impossible. This is impossible. So it's like

00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:55.019
a back and forth for months. And then usually

00:36:55.019 --> 00:36:57.340
it's like, well, Since this didn't work, that

00:36:57.340 --> 00:36:59.460
means this doesn't work in the hypothetical thing.

00:36:59.840 --> 00:37:02.659
Like you can't light a firework in the coffin

00:37:02.659 --> 00:37:04.760
or whatever or like you can't light a fire. If

00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:06.460
like one of the bits was me to cook food, well,

00:37:06.500 --> 00:37:08.239
because of the ventilation, you can't light a

00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:09.699
fire in there. So then it's like you got to change

00:37:09.699 --> 00:37:11.639
it. So it's like a lot of back and forth like

00:37:11.639 --> 00:37:13.099
that over the course of months and then you get

00:37:13.099 --> 00:37:14.380
a final product, which is why you need intelligent

00:37:14.380 --> 00:37:16.599
people working on it so they can like do that

00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:18.239
and they can occasionally make decisions on their

00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:20.119
own without having to push it all up to me because

00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:22.300
then I want to kill myself. And this has been

00:37:22.300 --> 00:37:24.920
all just a trial and error sort of thing from

00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:26.320
the beginning. Exactly. From the first videos

00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:30.280
to now. Yeah. Do you ever stop and look at when

00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:32.860
you've got a video like that that has 224 million

00:37:32.860 --> 00:37:35.940
views and look at how insane your reach is and

00:37:35.940 --> 00:37:38.840
go, how the fuck? I know. It's crazy. Well, and

00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:40.500
that's just in English. Right. You have the other

00:37:40.500 --> 00:37:43.480
channels, other languages as well. Yeah. I mean,

00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:47.210
I. I don't know. I don't even know how to put

00:37:47.210 --> 00:37:49.150
it into words. I mean, it is crazy. It's like,

00:37:49.329 --> 00:37:51.250
obviously, it just feels like numbers on the

00:37:51.250 --> 00:37:52.929
screen. But if I tried to visualize 100 million

00:37:52.929 --> 00:37:55.530
people, it's unfathomable. Now, you're in an

00:37:55.530 --> 00:37:58.650
unusual situation, too, because YouTube is, you

00:37:58.650 --> 00:38:01.769
know, it's a weird place because it's got these,

00:38:01.829 --> 00:38:04.650
you have like partnership deals, right? So you

00:38:04.650 --> 00:38:08.250
get a piece of the ad revenue, but you essentially

00:38:08.250 --> 00:38:10.909
don't have a contract. Like YouTube can just

00:38:10.909 --> 00:38:13.300
go, you know what? Fuck Mr. Beast. Let's get

00:38:13.300 --> 00:38:15.519
rid of them. Why would they? Of course they shouldn't.

00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:17.800
It's a terrible idea. But you're in this weird

00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:20.800
– like if they change the way they monetize things

00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:23.420
for any reason. I know that has happened to certain

00:38:23.420 --> 00:38:26.940
people, right, where they used to have some sort

00:38:26.940 --> 00:38:29.679
of a deal with YouTube where they were making

00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:32.260
videos and for whatever reason YouTube demonetized

00:38:32.260 --> 00:38:34.739
them and they go into full -blown panic. Yeah.

00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:37.679
I mean obviously – You're not controversial in

00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:38.579
the sense of like – Yeah, we're not anywhere

00:38:38.579 --> 00:38:40.960
near the line. And like a lot of that like isn't

00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:42.980
YouTube. It's like the advertisers putting pressure

00:38:42.980 --> 00:38:46.000
on them and they're just trying to – But if you

00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:47.920
had been – my point was have you been approached

00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:50.099
to be independent of something like that? Because

00:38:50.099 --> 00:38:52.719
you're so big at this point. You could have your

00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.820
own servers, your own website, your own deals

00:38:55.820 --> 00:38:57.619
with advertisers where you get 100 percent of

00:38:57.619 --> 00:39:01.480
the revenue rather than – I love YouTube. I mean

00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:03.360
like you got to think about it like YouTube comes

00:39:03.360 --> 00:39:05.579
pre -installed. on Android. Obviously, Google

00:39:05.579 --> 00:39:08.260
owns YouTube or Alphabet, but also Google owns,

00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:11.000
so people go there through Google. All roads

00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:14.179
point to YouTube. I love being the biggest creator

00:39:14.179 --> 00:39:16.800
on YouTube. Fuck going and doing my own thing.

00:39:16.860 --> 00:39:20.260
That sounds stupid. Hell no. I can have one of

00:39:20.260 --> 00:39:22.500
the largest audiences in the world. Instead of

00:39:22.500 --> 00:39:23.840
thinking about building my own platform, I'd

00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:25.440
rather think about building businesses, leveraging

00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:28.059
my audience off of YouTube, like Beast Burger

00:39:28.059 --> 00:39:29.800
and our snack brand and other stuff like that.

00:39:29.940 --> 00:39:31.860
I feel like that's a better use of time instead

00:39:31.860 --> 00:39:34.320
of just nuking my audience. Well, I don't think

00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:36.019
it would nuke your audience. My point is I think

00:39:36.019 --> 00:39:38.219
you're so big that you would just transfer anywhere.

00:39:38.539 --> 00:39:40.000
Yeah, but you would take that, but then you don't

00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:41.539
have like – because we're constantly gaining

00:39:41.539 --> 00:39:45.360
new people. Like last year we gained – on the

00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:46.780
main channel alone, we were the most subscribed

00:39:46.780 --> 00:39:48.179
to a channel in the world. We gained 36 million

00:39:48.179 --> 00:39:50.519
subscribers on the main channel. Really? Yeah.

00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:52.500
If I had my own platform, it would be like one

00:39:52.500 --> 00:39:53.739
or two million. You know what I mean? Right,

00:39:53.739 --> 00:39:55.579
right, right. So it's like – and it's still going

00:39:55.579 --> 00:39:57.260
up. Across all the channels, we're gaining like

00:39:57.260 --> 00:39:59.920
7 million subscribers a month. Like that would

00:39:59.920 --> 00:40:01.719
just plummet if I used my own platform. Do you

00:40:01.719 --> 00:40:04.840
have an ultimate? plan for all this? I mean,

00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:07.019
I just love YouTube. It's been my life's passion.

00:40:07.199 --> 00:40:09.829
Do you ever meet them? People at YouTube? Yeah,

00:40:09.909 --> 00:40:12.250
do you ever go there and have a powwow? No. I

00:40:12.250 --> 00:40:13.789
mean, I've talked to some people, but it's like

00:40:13.789 --> 00:40:15.269
I don't really need anything. Bro, they should

00:40:15.269 --> 00:40:18.090
massage your feet. They really should. They should

00:40:18.090 --> 00:40:21.070
sit you down. Jimmy, you're doing so well. Yeah,

00:40:21.070 --> 00:40:22.989
YouTube, if you're listening, I'll take the foot

00:40:22.989 --> 00:40:24.590
massage. Yeah, that's what they should be doing

00:40:24.590 --> 00:40:26.929
with you. They should set up a throne. They sit

00:40:26.929 --> 00:40:29.530
there with a crown on, and then they dunk your

00:40:29.530 --> 00:40:31.510
feet in the thing, and they do your nails. And

00:40:31.510 --> 00:40:33.389
so I might have a different view than most people,

00:40:33.469 --> 00:40:36.949
but I didn't have much, and it's all 100 % of

00:40:36.949 --> 00:40:38.469
everything. I've never worked a job. I've never

00:40:38.469 --> 00:40:41.110
made like anything. It's all been from YouTube.

00:40:41.230 --> 00:40:42.710
It's incredible. Used to make a dollar a day.

00:40:42.750 --> 00:40:44.989
So I love this platform more than anything. Listen,

00:40:45.090 --> 00:40:46.789
I love YouTube too. All the problems that they

00:40:46.789 --> 00:40:48.869
have. I think it is absolutely amazing that they've

00:40:48.869 --> 00:40:51.590
created this thing where someone can make a living

00:40:51.590 --> 00:40:53.389
and an incredible living just creating content.

00:40:53.389 --> 00:40:57.369
Anyone in the world can. Like if you like. I

00:40:57.369 --> 00:40:58.250
don't know how to say this. It doesn't sound

00:40:58.250 --> 00:41:00.030
arrogant. But, like, if you knew what I know

00:41:00.030 --> 00:41:01.690
about, like, how to make a good video and go

00:41:01.690 --> 00:41:03.570
viral, even if you had zero subscribers, you

00:41:03.570 --> 00:41:06.010
could be making $100 ,000 a month in half a year,

00:41:06.110 --> 00:41:08.610
right? Anyone in the world can be a successful

00:41:08.610 --> 00:41:10.429
YouTuber. And to me, that's, like, the beauty

00:41:10.429 --> 00:41:12.750
of the platform. Yeah, it really is. And it's

00:41:12.750 --> 00:41:14.989
very unique in that there's a lot of other platforms,

00:41:15.090 --> 00:41:17.349
but no one ever figured out a way where someone

00:41:17.349 --> 00:41:19.670
could be fully dedicated to it and make a living

00:41:19.670 --> 00:41:22.429
off it. I guess maybe Twitch. And then I guess

00:41:22.429 --> 00:41:24.630
there's a few other ones where people make money.

00:41:24.690 --> 00:41:26.309
But not at this scale of YouTube. No, not even

00:41:26.309 --> 00:41:28.739
close. Not even close to scale. That was one

00:41:28.739 --> 00:41:32.340
of the most difficult things about going to Spotify

00:41:32.340 --> 00:41:35.429
was leaving YouTube. Because I was like, man,

00:41:35.650 --> 00:41:38.250
our growth on YouTube is pretty crazy. I don't

00:41:38.250 --> 00:41:40.670
know if that's a smart move to just leave. And

00:41:40.670 --> 00:41:42.889
so the compromise was we could still put clips

00:41:42.889 --> 00:41:45.449
up on YouTube. That was really the only way I

00:41:45.449 --> 00:41:47.110
was willing to do it. I wasn't willing to just

00:41:47.110 --> 00:41:50.909
abandon. It was a great idea because I don't

00:41:50.909 --> 00:41:53.889
really use Spotify that much, but all the time

00:41:53.889 --> 00:41:56.289
your clips occasionally pop up on my homepage

00:41:56.289 --> 00:41:59.110
on my TV. And so if you, in my world, because

00:41:59.110 --> 00:42:01.449
there are these different worlds now. There are

00:42:01.449 --> 00:42:03.409
some people that only use TikTok. So if you're

00:42:03.409 --> 00:42:05.159
not on TikTok, you just don't exist in the world.

00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:07.320
That's kind of how I view it. In my world, it's

00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:09.719
pretty big YouTube. So, like, if you just were

00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:12.059
not existing on YouTube, like, you wouldn't exist

00:42:12.059 --> 00:42:14.079
to me, you know, hypothetically in my world.

00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:17.719
Yeah. Well, I mean, I exist on TikTok, but it's

00:42:17.719 --> 00:42:20.300
not me. Like, someone's just uploading my content

00:42:20.300 --> 00:42:22.199
on TikTok. Really? Yeah, at a certain point in

00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:23.780
time, I guess I should step in and do something.

00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:26.699
You should. On TikTok, but TikTok is such a sketchy

00:42:26.699 --> 00:42:29.039
fucking application. Have you ever seen, like,

00:42:29.099 --> 00:42:31.099
the breakdown that these software engineers have

00:42:31.099 --> 00:42:35.019
done of TikTok, of how intrusive it is? No. They

00:42:35.019 --> 00:42:37.380
said it's the single most disturbing piece of

00:42:37.380 --> 00:42:39.800
software they've ever had to back engineer. Because

00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:44.599
the amount of... Like cross -platform spying

00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:49.000
it does. Well, I know if you travel to a different

00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:51.159
state, like even now in Texas, my TikTok feed

00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:53.199
will be a lot more Texas content. It's definitely

00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:56.639
location -based. And I have had instances where

00:42:56.639 --> 00:42:58.079
I would say certain things in conversations,

00:42:58.139 --> 00:43:00.039
and then later that night I would get it in my

00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:02.159
feed, something similar. Like if I talked about

00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:04.820
dogs a lot, and then I'd weirdly start getting

00:43:04.820 --> 00:43:06.980
TikToks about dogs. I have noticed that type

00:43:06.980 --> 00:43:08.880
of stuff. My friend told me that she was talking

00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:10.860
to this lady, and they were just... She was having

00:43:10.860 --> 00:43:12.960
a conversation and then she looked at her TikTok

00:43:12.960 --> 00:43:16.139
and TikTok suggested her. Based on that conversation?

00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:18.539
So TikTok knew that her and this lady were next

00:43:18.539 --> 00:43:20.679
to each other physically because their phones

00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:23.280
were next to each other. Wow. So TikTok suggested

00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:26.099
that she follow that lady. That's crazy. That's

00:43:26.099 --> 00:43:27.619
spooky. And TikTok can be pretty addicting. I

00:43:27.619 --> 00:43:29.340
actually recently uninstalled it just because

00:43:29.340 --> 00:43:32.119
– even though my TikTok is mostly like gym and

00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:34.480
like actually finance stuff. So it's like I actually

00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:36.539
don't – I enjoy the content on it and I don't

00:43:36.539 --> 00:43:38.260
think it makes me a worse person. But I found

00:43:38.260 --> 00:43:39.820
I was spending like two hours a day on TikTok

00:43:39.820 --> 00:43:41.559
and I was like, ah. Just scrolling through videos?

00:43:41.699 --> 00:43:43.199
Yeah, that's what I was like. That's a little

00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:46.900
much. So I uninstalled it. Yeah, it's a fine

00:43:46.900 --> 00:43:50.860
line between enjoyment. getting something out

00:43:50.860 --> 00:43:53.079
of the content, and then just this weird empty

00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:55.599
obsession where you're just spending time staring

00:43:55.599 --> 00:43:58.480
at other people's stuff. But I think you can

00:43:58.480 --> 00:44:00.039
curate the feed, though, where it is beneficial,

00:44:00.300 --> 00:44:02.559
which is what I tried to do. I had it in a good

00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:04.780
place where when I opened TikTok, it would motivate

00:44:04.780 --> 00:44:06.800
me to work out, and it would motivate me to go

00:44:06.800 --> 00:44:09.059
work, so it's good. But sometimes it would take

00:44:09.059 --> 00:44:11.699
a little long because you can see your time on

00:44:11.699 --> 00:44:14.860
app. Usually I try not to spend more than an

00:44:14.860 --> 00:44:16.599
hour and a half a day on social media. So when

00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:18.500
I saw that two hours, I was like, fuck. Do you

00:44:18.500 --> 00:44:19.860
know the difference between... the way China

00:44:19.860 --> 00:44:21.500
does it versus the way the American does it?

00:44:21.579 --> 00:44:24.300
No. It's really interesting. China, first of

00:44:24.300 --> 00:44:27.539
all, between the hours of 10 a .m. and 6 p .m.,

00:44:27.539 --> 00:44:29.440
kids are not allowed on it. They can't be on

00:44:29.440 --> 00:44:31.320
it. Really? They won't let them on it. Second

00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:33.949
of all, when you're on it... The difference between

00:44:33.949 --> 00:44:36.829
like TikTok in America is like dances and people

00:44:36.829 --> 00:44:38.829
doing pranks and people doing things to try to

00:44:38.829 --> 00:44:41.969
get viral views. In China, it highlights scientific

00:44:41.969 --> 00:44:44.530
achievements, athletic achievements. It highlights

00:44:44.530 --> 00:44:47.730
like people doing things, accomplishing things.

00:44:48.050 --> 00:44:52.250
Wow. So it's a lot more curated. Yes, much more.

00:44:52.309 --> 00:44:55.130
But curated by the CCP where they're trying or

00:44:55.130 --> 00:44:58.030
whatever in conjunction with where they're trying

00:44:58.030 --> 00:45:01.650
to elevate the quality of the lives of the kids

00:45:01.650 --> 00:45:05.599
that are addicted. So instead of them being addicted

00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:09.920
to putting piss in the hand soap container, instead

00:45:09.920 --> 00:45:12.820
of doing something like that, what they're doing

00:45:12.820 --> 00:45:14.920
is showing science experiments. They're showing

00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:17.340
innovation. They're showing kids accomplishing

00:45:17.340 --> 00:45:20.539
great athletic goals. And it's motivating people

00:45:20.539 --> 00:45:23.559
to do good things and improve themselves, which

00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:25.639
is totally possible here. But the problem is

00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:27.960
you would have to have some sort of overview.

00:45:29.289 --> 00:45:32.650
like, some sort of Orwellian restrictions brought

00:45:32.650 --> 00:45:35.269
down from the governments to, like, make sure

00:45:35.269 --> 00:45:37.469
that kids only see that kind of thing. But here

00:45:37.469 --> 00:45:38.849
in America, if you did that, like, people just

00:45:38.849 --> 00:45:40.389
wouldn't use it. They'd be like, oh, well, fuck

00:45:40.389 --> 00:45:43.369
this. I'm going to Instagram Reels or YouTube.

00:45:43.769 --> 00:45:46.590
Exactly. So do you put stuff on TikTok as well?

00:45:46.829 --> 00:45:49.409
Yeah, we use TikTok. So you have, like, a team

00:45:49.409 --> 00:45:50.969
that does all that kind of stuff? Exactly. I'd

00:45:50.969 --> 00:45:53.150
say, like, 1 % or 2 % of my time go to TikTok.

00:45:53.250 --> 00:45:56.030
Like, 90 -plus percent goes to YouTube. Because

00:45:56.030 --> 00:45:58.190
essentially, like, at the end of the day, like,

00:45:58.210 --> 00:46:01.860
the most – I can hire creative people to help

00:46:01.860 --> 00:46:04.280
come up with bits. I can hire production people

00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:06.800
to help do the videos and editors. The only thing

00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:09.599
I can't outsource is me actually filming. At

00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:10.900
the end of the day, that's the only thing that

00:46:10.900 --> 00:46:12.280
I'm the only person in the world that can do.

00:46:12.539 --> 00:46:15.860
So in an ideal world, I spend as much of my time

00:46:15.860 --> 00:46:18.039
as possible filming and not doing other stuff

00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:20.000
because we have multiple different channels and

00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:22.579
stuff like that. So peak performance would be

00:46:22.579 --> 00:46:25.000
me. 90 % of my work week is just filming shit

00:46:25.000 --> 00:46:28.260
and nothing else. Yeah, I mean, when you're in

00:46:28.260 --> 00:46:30.250
the middle, of all this and you have all the

00:46:30.250 --> 00:46:32.030
stuff going on whether it's the social media

00:46:32.030 --> 00:46:34.170
stuff and the filming stuff and the coming up

00:46:34.170 --> 00:46:36.769
with the new content and new ideas and then managing

00:46:36.769 --> 00:46:39.010
the fact you have a hundred fucking people well

00:46:39.010 --> 00:46:40.550
we haven't even gotten into the side companies

00:46:40.550 --> 00:46:42.849
or the side channels either no the the beast

00:46:42.849 --> 00:46:45.130
burgers and all that jazz yeah wait first of

00:46:45.130 --> 00:46:46.909
all where's mr beast burger how many of them

00:46:46.909 --> 00:46:48.989
do you have uh so right now we don't have any

00:46:48.989 --> 00:46:51.449
physical we have 1600 virtual restaurants oh

00:46:51.449 --> 00:46:53.730
so you order it online and then they deliver

00:46:53.730 --> 00:46:56.190
it yeah so like uh let's say you own a mom and

00:46:56.190 --> 00:46:58.429
pop restaurant you you literally just sign up,

00:46:58.489 --> 00:47:00.550
go through the course. You learn how to make

00:47:00.550 --> 00:47:02.449
all the stuff on a menu and you just order our

00:47:02.449 --> 00:47:04.170
ingredients and our packaging. And then you just

00:47:04.170 --> 00:47:05.989
flick it on, on Uber Eats store dash Grubhub

00:47:05.989 --> 00:47:07.869
and you can start taking orders and we let you

00:47:07.869 --> 00:47:09.610
keep a majority of the revenue. So it's basically

00:47:09.610 --> 00:47:11.389
like it's a win -win for restaurants, especially

00:47:11.389 --> 00:47:14.369
when COVID first hit, it was like huge for a

00:47:14.369 --> 00:47:15.789
lot of restaurants. Cause I was pushing it really

00:47:15.789 --> 00:47:18.010
hard back then. And like some restaurants, you

00:47:18.010 --> 00:47:19.530
were literally laying off people. And then they

00:47:19.530 --> 00:47:21.929
started serving Beast Burger and some of them

00:47:21.929 --> 00:47:24.889
doing like 10 grand a week, not like in total

00:47:24.889 --> 00:47:26.869
revenues, whatever their cut was lower, but it

00:47:26.869 --> 00:47:28.760
allowed. them to not have to like lay off part

00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:30.420
of the workforce or keep their employees and

00:47:30.420 --> 00:47:34.039
stuff like that. And so, yeah. And this idea

00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:36.480
came out of what? We were approached by some

00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:38.880
company. And the more I thought about it, the

00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:40.880
more I just realized it was just a great idea.

00:47:40.960 --> 00:47:43.340
So we have a partner, basically a guy who's been

00:47:43.340 --> 00:47:45.059
doing restaurants his whole life. So actually,

00:47:45.099 --> 00:47:46.739
that's how we started, because he owned 300 restaurants.

00:47:46.900 --> 00:47:49.820
So we launched with his 300 restaurants. And

00:47:49.820 --> 00:47:52.139
that first day, they all sold out. They were

00:47:52.139 --> 00:47:53.920
having to run to local stores to buy ingredients

00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:56.420
to keep up with orders. The Uber Eats delivery

00:47:56.420 --> 00:47:59.119
lines were out the door. It was pretty bad. So

00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:02.159
we had to quickly expand up. And we've just been

00:48:02.159 --> 00:48:04.079
adding like 50 restaurants a week ever since.

00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:06.739
Wow. Yeah. And so now we're about to start doing

00:48:06.739 --> 00:48:09.039
our first physical restaurants as well. And that

00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:11.579
should be fun. Your mom must be so baffled. A

00:48:11.579 --> 00:48:13.739
kid she thought wasn't doing jack shit in school.

00:48:13.900 --> 00:48:18.139
Now he's creating virtual restaurants. It's incredible,

00:48:18.340 --> 00:48:22.079
man. Yeah, it's actually insane. So we've been

00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:25.099
doing it for probably like 15 months now. And

00:48:25.099 --> 00:48:27.920
we're about to cross $100 million in top -line

00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:30.469
revenue across the restaurants. Wow. So that's

00:48:30.469 --> 00:48:32.590
one side business. What other side businesses

00:48:32.590 --> 00:48:35.110
do you have? So we just launched our snack brand.

00:48:36.010 --> 00:48:39.489
Our first thing is a chocolate bar. Just basically,

00:48:39.550 --> 00:48:41.170
like, only four ingredients. Just a slightly

00:48:41.170 --> 00:48:42.630
healthier version of a chocolate bar. Problem

00:48:42.630 --> 00:48:44.050
is, if you make things too healthy, which is

00:48:44.050 --> 00:48:45.929
what I've found with my restaurant, is that I

00:48:45.929 --> 00:48:48.010
would love to wean people off, like, super unhealthy

00:48:48.010 --> 00:48:50.150
stuff. But if you, like, we did lettuce wrap,

00:48:50.329 --> 00:48:51.949
where you just replace the bun with lettuce,

00:48:52.090 --> 00:48:54.070
no one orders it. If you go, like, too extreme

00:48:54.070 --> 00:48:56.510
on the healthy side, just no one cares. So it's,

00:48:56.550 --> 00:48:58.690
like, I found, like, the best spot is just to

00:48:58.690 --> 00:49:00.570
make things, like, 20 % healthier, and then people

00:49:00.570 --> 00:49:02.650
still order it. If not, then it's just useless.

00:49:03.449 --> 00:49:05.869
So I wanted to do a snack brand, and I'm experimenting

00:49:05.869 --> 00:49:08.070
with that. So it's just basically slightly better

00:49:08.070 --> 00:49:09.800
for you. chocolate bar. Just higher quality ingredients,

00:49:09.860 --> 00:49:11.280
a little bit less ingredients. And what do you

00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:13.460
put in it? Well, you can just pull it up. There

00:49:13.460 --> 00:49:15.159
it is. Mr. Beast bar. I mean, like I said, it's

00:49:15.159 --> 00:49:18.579
not crazy healthy, but... Yeah, it's got quinoa

00:49:18.579 --> 00:49:22.480
in it. Yuck. I love that one. I have some out

00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:24.179
there. I'll have you taste test it. I'm sure

00:49:24.179 --> 00:49:25.900
it's good. Quinoa mixed with chocolate. Bro,

00:49:25.980 --> 00:49:28.579
they put chocolate on ants and people eat it.

00:49:29.190 --> 00:49:31.190
I mean, everything with chocolate is good. Well,

00:49:31.250 --> 00:49:33.469
and so our big marketing stunt for this, because

00:49:33.469 --> 00:49:35.789
everything I do, it's got to be a spectacle,

00:49:35.949 --> 00:49:38.110
is 10 random people are going to get flown down

00:49:38.110 --> 00:49:39.690
to compete for a chocolate factory in a video.

00:49:41.530 --> 00:49:43.730
So we're still working on building the chocolate

00:49:43.730 --> 00:49:45.090
factory. That's what I was doing yesterday before

00:49:45.090 --> 00:49:47.030
I flew out here. So when you say a chocolate

00:49:47.030 --> 00:49:48.690
factory, is it going to be a real place that

00:49:48.690 --> 00:49:50.449
makes chocolate? No, it's going to be kind of

00:49:50.449 --> 00:49:52.090
like the Willy Wonka one, where it's like decked

00:49:52.090 --> 00:49:54.530
out. Most people, I feel like, are just going

00:49:54.530 --> 00:49:56.510
to take the money instead. They can keep the

00:49:56.510 --> 00:49:57.829
Chocolate Factory or I'll just give them like

00:49:57.829 --> 00:50:00.070
half a million dollars. 99 % of people, I feel

00:50:00.070 --> 00:50:01.309
like, would rather just take the money. Yeah,

00:50:01.309 --> 00:50:02.789
because then you'd have to sell the Chocolate

00:50:02.789 --> 00:50:05.670
Factory. Exactly. Because in Willy Wonka, it's

00:50:05.670 --> 00:50:07.110
not like it was the Chocolate Factory. It was

00:50:07.110 --> 00:50:08.989
like they had the Chocolate River and all that.

00:50:09.090 --> 00:50:10.889
So that's what we're trying to figure out right

00:50:10.889 --> 00:50:12.880
now. We're literally building, like, a chocolate

00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:14.340
river, and I'm trying to figure out, like, how

00:50:14.340 --> 00:50:15.699
do you keep chocolate flowing and from going

00:50:15.699 --> 00:50:17.599
bad and, like, being fucking disgusting and shit

00:50:17.599 --> 00:50:20.340
like that. So you said you're trying to make

00:50:20.340 --> 00:50:22.460
your chocolate bars healthier. Do you use, like,

00:50:22.500 --> 00:50:24.900
Stevia for sweeteners, or is it just all sugar?

00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:27.579
Like, what is it? I mean, honestly, I'm still

00:50:27.579 --> 00:50:30.039
educating myself in this stuff, so I'd rather

00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:31.619
not go in depth because you could probably run

00:50:31.619 --> 00:50:34.340
circles around me on this type of stuff. Nutrition

00:50:34.340 --> 00:50:38.599
stuff. Yeah, exactly. I think just, like, just

00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:40.360
getting the – here, I mean, just pull it up.

00:50:40.780 --> 00:50:42.139
Just roast it here if you want to. Okay, let's

00:50:42.139 --> 00:50:45.960
see the ingredients. So here we go. Created by

00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:48.039
experts. Just scroll up. No, no. Just where.

00:50:49.619 --> 00:50:52.300
Does it have an ingredients list? About. In about

00:50:52.300 --> 00:50:54.699
maybe. Yeah, hit about. I can also probably just

00:50:54.699 --> 00:50:58.300
pull it up. On the about page. There must be

00:50:58.300 --> 00:51:00.659
something I'm not clicking somewhere. Here, if

00:51:00.659 --> 00:51:02.099
you want to just search for it and then pull

00:51:02.099 --> 00:51:06.590
it up once you find it. Yep, yep. So other than

00:51:06.590 --> 00:51:08.789
that, are there other businesses you have that

00:51:08.789 --> 00:51:11.550
are like sidebands? Yeah, so the dub channels

00:51:11.550 --> 00:51:14.329
I showed you, we're actually building a dub studio

00:51:14.329 --> 00:51:15.989
in Mexico. We're building dub studios across

00:51:15.989 --> 00:51:17.369
the world, and we're actually doing that for

00:51:17.369 --> 00:51:20.750
other creators as well. So to dub foreign languages

00:51:20.750 --> 00:51:23.110
onto English videos. Yeah, so if you were a YouTuber

00:51:23.110 --> 00:51:24.769
and you wanted your videos in a bunch of other

00:51:24.769 --> 00:51:27.130
languages, just come to us. We'll start up the

00:51:27.130 --> 00:51:29.309
channels. We'll translate the thumbnails, translate

00:51:29.309 --> 00:51:31.369
the content, do it all for you. So you have like

00:51:31.369 --> 00:51:34.130
a whole business set up in Mexico. Well, our

00:51:34.130 --> 00:51:36.989
business is Unilingo. Here it is. Sugar cane,

00:51:37.289 --> 00:51:41.289
cocoa bean, cocoa powder, sunflower, lecithin.

00:51:41.789 --> 00:51:44.329
So that's all that's in there. Yeah. That's good.

00:51:45.050 --> 00:51:51.210
Total sugar, where's that? 13. Okay, total sugar.

00:51:52.230 --> 00:51:55.989
It's whatever. I wanted to take it extreme, but

00:51:55.989 --> 00:51:57.329
the problem is if you go too extreme, then no

00:51:57.329 --> 00:52:00.989
one will order it. I'll admit, it's not the healthiest

00:52:00.989 --> 00:52:03.349
possible. It's a snack, though. It's not supposed

00:52:03.349 --> 00:52:04.829
to be that healthy. It's a fucking chocolate

00:52:04.829 --> 00:52:06.929
bar. Eventually, if we could crack the code,

00:52:07.010 --> 00:52:09.590
that's what I'd love. Most of the food we eat

00:52:09.590 --> 00:52:12.690
is fucking garbage for us. I wish you could just

00:52:12.690 --> 00:52:14.849
be like, this is the perfect chocolate bar, and

00:52:14.849 --> 00:52:16.190
then we just magically get people to actually

00:52:16.190 --> 00:52:19.730
eat it. You said you work out a lot? I'm starting

00:52:19.730 --> 00:52:23.739
to get into it. The problem is, We just have

00:52:23.739 --> 00:52:26.079
so much shit going on. And it's, like, one week

00:52:26.079 --> 00:52:27.840
I'm burying myself alive. The next week we're

00:52:27.840 --> 00:52:29.420
dealing with Squid Game. When I'm not, like,

00:52:29.460 --> 00:52:31.619
not filming, it's so fucking easy, like, to work

00:52:31.619 --> 00:52:33.440
out. But it's, like, it's hard to, like, get

00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:35.619
a routine going because, like, we just went to

00:52:35.619 --> 00:52:36.980
South Africa and we were going to Antarctica

00:52:36.980 --> 00:52:39.139
for a couple of days. And, like, that's, like,

00:52:39.139 --> 00:52:42.280
a 12 -day trip. And so it's, like, it's weird.

00:52:42.420 --> 00:52:45.000
I get it. Yeah. But I'm also being a pussy. Like,

00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:46.960
in an ideal world, I should be working out way

00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:48.699
more consistent than I am. Listen, man, just

00:52:48.699 --> 00:52:50.659
relax on yourself. Sounds like you're doing a

00:52:50.659 --> 00:52:53.360
lot. You're getting a lot. I want to be the best.

00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:56.659
Well, you obviously are trying to do that because

00:52:56.659 --> 00:52:59.139
you're amazingly accomplished at 23 years old.

00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:01.519
It's super impressive. Thank you. So when you're

00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:03.460
going to like South Africa, like what did you

00:53:03.460 --> 00:53:07.019
do in South Africa? Well, we just flew to South

00:53:07.019 --> 00:53:11.260
Africa as a stop to Antarctica. But annoyingly,

00:53:11.260 --> 00:53:12.780
when we were about to get on the plane to go

00:53:12.780 --> 00:53:14.159
to Antarctica because we're going to spend 50

00:53:14.159 --> 00:53:16.719
hours in Antarctica, we're going to climb a mountain

00:53:16.719 --> 00:53:17.840
that's never been climbed before in Antarctica,

00:53:18.139 --> 00:53:22.320
do all this cool shit. The group that went before

00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:25.139
us gave the group in Antarctica COVID. Everyone

00:53:25.139 --> 00:53:27.320
there had COVID. So they had to leave. And so

00:53:27.320 --> 00:53:29.019
there's no one there to clear the ice runway

00:53:29.019 --> 00:53:31.639
for us to land. So we went to South Africa and

00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:33.280
they literally just flew back because we couldn't

00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:35.639
go to Antarctica. I know. It's brutal. And there's

00:53:35.639 --> 00:53:37.280
only a little window where you can go to Antarctica

00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:39.880
twice a year. One's in February. And because

00:53:39.880 --> 00:53:41.980
of that, the window was missed. So now we can't

00:53:41.980 --> 00:53:43.840
go. They don't test the people before they fly

00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:45.760
to Antarctica? I would think that's so isolated.

00:53:46.000 --> 00:53:48.139
They have to test you if you're going to go to

00:53:48.139 --> 00:53:50.380
the Bahamas. I know. I mean, I don't know how.

00:53:50.440 --> 00:53:53.380
it happened but yeah so now we can't go again

00:53:53.380 --> 00:53:55.059
until November which is annoying because like

00:53:55.059 --> 00:53:56.800
we had already we've been working on that video

00:53:56.800 --> 00:53:58.980
for over a month you know like we're gonna go

00:53:58.980 --> 00:54:00.460
to this part and play with the penguins we're

00:54:00.460 --> 00:54:01.820
gonna climb this mountain the content was like

00:54:01.820 --> 00:54:04.280
phenomenal and you're out there we have the team

00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:07.079
you're in Africa ready to go there and then it's

00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:09.300
just like nope and so it's like it's also opportunity

00:54:09.300 --> 00:54:11.519
cost because we could have been filming a video

00:54:11.519 --> 00:54:13.300
that would have been uploaded which that's why

00:54:13.300 --> 00:54:14.679
I haven't uploaded in a month because that fell

00:54:14.679 --> 00:54:17.000
through and so it's like not only did that fall

00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:19.239
apart but it's like the opportunity cost it sucks

00:54:19.659 --> 00:54:22.599
Now, that sounds a little dangerous. Like, you're

00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:26.300
climbing a mountain? I mean, we have experts

00:54:26.300 --> 00:54:28.159
there. You know, like, they'll make sure we're

00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:30.159
safe. Right, but you're climbing a mountain in

00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:32.039
Antarctica. I mean, it seems just by nature.

00:54:32.780 --> 00:54:35.639
I mean, the company we were working with does

00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:37.320
this stuff all the time. And they assured us

00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:39.579
it was safe. So, like, I mean. Have you ever

00:54:39.579 --> 00:54:42.380
seen that film, Twelve Peaks? My friend actually

00:54:42.380 --> 00:54:44.039
recommended it, but I haven't seen it yet. It's

00:54:44.039 --> 00:54:47.519
incredible. It's really wild. But one of the

00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:50.840
more. confusing moments is when you recognize

00:54:50.840 --> 00:54:54.059
how many people climb mount everest and there

00:54:54.059 --> 00:54:56.340
was one part where there was a window a small

00:54:56.340 --> 00:54:59.400
window of good weather and so the queue of people

00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:01.880
trying to get to the top of mount everest was

00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:04.420
hundreds of people long i saw the like a picture

00:55:04.420 --> 00:55:06.860
on twitter near the peak there's like 50 people

00:55:06.860 --> 00:55:10.500
waiting to go yeah the star of the film he he

00:55:10.500 --> 00:55:13.239
took that photo That's one of them. He took a

00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:15.400
photo of the people in front of him that were

00:55:15.400 --> 00:55:17.360
trying to get up to this mountain, the top of

00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:21.199
Everest. Yeah. That's a weird one because it

00:55:21.199 --> 00:55:25.900
used to be this thing where you would go to this

00:55:25.900 --> 00:55:30.440
far off land and you would climb this rugged

00:55:30.440 --> 00:55:32.280
mountain and there was no one out there and it

00:55:32.280 --> 00:55:34.500
was so hard to do. But now hundreds of people

00:55:34.500 --> 00:55:37.739
in a day. Look at that. Crazy. Oh, wow. I didn't

00:55:37.739 --> 00:55:42.150
see that one. That's insane. I mean, even crazier,

00:55:42.230 --> 00:55:44.349
you got like the free solo guy just climbing

00:55:44.349 --> 00:55:46.329
without anything. Yeah, well, he doesn't do this

00:55:46.329 --> 00:55:48.710
stuff. No, no, but yeah. Yeah, but Alex Honnold,

00:55:48.730 --> 00:55:50.409
he's been on a couple of times. He's a fascinating

00:55:50.409 --> 00:55:52.690
guy. Yeah. He scares the shit out of me. I would

00:55:52.690 --> 00:55:55.110
love to speak to him. My hands start sweating

00:55:55.110 --> 00:55:56.969
just talking to him. Yeah. Just like what he

00:55:56.969 --> 00:56:00.789
does because it's like he's up 1 ,500, 2 ,000

00:56:00.789 --> 00:56:03.989
feet hanging on by his fingertips with a bag

00:56:03.989 --> 00:56:05.849
of chalk. Just hearing you say it is making my

00:56:05.849 --> 00:56:09.079
hands literally sweat. Yeah. When you watch videos

00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:11.960
of him do it, and he's just so kind of calm and

00:56:11.960 --> 00:56:15.599
chill about it, and he's very, in the nicest

00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:18.239
way, like almost innocent and childlike in the

00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:20.559
way he talks, like his eyebrows are, look at

00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:23.300
that. Look at that. Oh my God. Fucking Jesus

00:56:23.300 --> 00:56:28.300
Christ, man. That's so crazy. I mean. Wow. He's

00:56:28.300 --> 00:56:32.940
hanging by his fingertips. Fuck all that. Gosh

00:56:32.940 --> 00:56:35.710
dang it. That's funny. And, you know, the real

00:56:35.710 --> 00:56:38.670
weird thing is experts are convinced that he's

00:56:38.670 --> 00:56:41.369
going to die. Like, the real experts. Like, how

00:56:41.369 --> 00:56:43.809
many of those images are there of him doing that,

00:56:43.909 --> 00:56:47.389
man? He's basically hanging by his fingers. There

00:56:47.389 --> 00:56:49.929
ultimately are probably variables occasionally

00:56:49.929 --> 00:56:51.469
out of his control. Look at that. Look at that

00:56:51.469 --> 00:56:54.730
photo. Look at that photo. Fuck that. Yeah. Look.

00:56:54.789 --> 00:56:57.340
Oh, Jesus. I mean, like, bro, if someone was

00:56:57.340 --> 00:57:00.219
like a billion dollars to do this and climb to

00:57:00.219 --> 00:57:01.699
the top of the mountain and gave me five years

00:57:01.699 --> 00:57:04.940
to train, I would say fuck no. Fuck no. And the

00:57:04.940 --> 00:57:07.139
thing is, like, he'll tell you he's not even

00:57:07.139 --> 00:57:09.880
the best climber in the world, which is really

00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:12.840
wild. There's guys that are better at it than

00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:18.559
him. He just has a knack for doing this and doing

00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:22.730
it without any ropes, and he stays calm. He knows

00:57:22.730 --> 00:57:26.190
how to just find his way up and concentrate entirely

00:57:26.190 --> 00:57:29.530
on the task at hand. And the guy – look at that

00:57:29.530 --> 00:57:32.710
fucking – Oh, my gosh. Look at my hands. Feel

00:57:32.710 --> 00:57:35.289
my hands. I have a minor sweat. I'm good. You

00:57:35.289 --> 00:57:36.730
don't trust me? I don't want the Joe Rogan sweat

00:57:36.730 --> 00:57:39.230
on me. It's good sweat. It's very healthy. It's

00:57:39.230 --> 00:57:41.630
got a lot of nutrients. But that – I mean that

00:57:41.630 --> 00:57:43.469
kind of stuff, you're not going to fuck around

00:57:43.469 --> 00:57:46.010
with like mountain climbing. No. No. Don't do

00:57:46.010 --> 00:57:48.309
that. Don't die, man. You're too important. You

00:57:48.309 --> 00:57:51.469
don't have to tell me. But the Antarctica thing,

00:57:51.530 --> 00:57:52.550
when you said you're going to climb a mountain

00:57:52.550 --> 00:57:54.250
that's never been climbed before, I'm like, yikes.

00:57:55.500 --> 00:57:59.579
So do you run the risk of as you continue to

00:57:59.579 --> 00:58:01.320
do these things and you keep pushing the envelope

00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:03.739
and making more and more exciting content? Do

00:58:03.739 --> 00:58:06.000
you ever think like because let me tell you something

00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:07.820
one of the things that happened with fear factors

00:58:07.820 --> 00:58:10.480
We did fear factor for six years and then we

00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:13.559
came back and did it for a final season in 2011

00:58:13.559 --> 00:58:16.280
and they were pushing it way too far It scared

00:58:16.280 --> 00:58:18.440
the shit out of me. They were going what the

00:58:18.440 --> 00:58:20.460
stunts were way bigger and that was part of the

00:58:20.460 --> 00:58:23.269
appeal They were like bigger batter crazy or

00:58:23.269 --> 00:58:25.349
fear factor and while they were filming it i

00:58:25.349 --> 00:58:28.230
was like man i am fucking nervous because these

00:58:28.230 --> 00:58:30.389
are just these stunts are so much more chaotic

00:58:30.389 --> 00:58:34.389
there's so much more like the the potential for

00:58:34.389 --> 00:58:36.570
injury is so much greater no one got injured

00:58:36.570 --> 00:58:39.079
fortunately nothing serious i mean bumps and

00:58:39.079 --> 00:58:41.500
bruises nothing serious yeah okay you know because

00:58:41.500 --> 00:58:43.619
it's like you know it's a lot of physical contact

00:58:43.619 --> 00:58:45.559
and stuff but there was moments like there was

00:58:45.559 --> 00:58:48.420
one where they had a guy different people that

00:58:48.420 --> 00:58:51.440
were there was a helicopter with a bungee cord

00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:53.420
and you were attached to the side of this cliff

00:58:53.900 --> 00:58:56.260
with a tree, and you're trying to unlock yourself,

00:58:56.480 --> 00:58:59.139
and when you do unlock yourself, the bungee cord

00:58:59.139 --> 00:59:02.599
pulls you, snaps you out over a canyon, and you're

00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:05.179
attached to a fucking helicopter dangling over

00:59:05.179 --> 00:59:07.639
this canyon. Wow. I'm like, what if something

00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:12.699
breaks, man? Like, it was so nuts. This is it

00:59:12.699 --> 00:59:16.039
right here. So these people would... unlock this

00:59:16.039 --> 00:59:18.639
thing, and the moment they unlocked it, and then

00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:21.400
their partner is climbing on a ladder that's

00:59:21.400 --> 00:59:23.760
below the helicopter, and the moment they unlock

00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:26.679
themselves from the tree, the bungee cord yanks

00:59:26.679 --> 00:59:29.840
them. Holy crap. Yeah. And while we were doing

00:59:29.840 --> 00:59:31.800
this, I would come home every day from filming,

00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:35.199
and I'd be like, we didn't kill anybody today.

00:59:36.380 --> 00:59:39.210
I would just take a... A big drink of whiskey

00:59:39.210 --> 00:59:42.889
and just sit down. Yeah. Like, fuck, man. So

00:59:42.889 --> 00:59:46.210
my point is, like, do you worry that. as you

00:59:46.210 --> 00:59:48.989
continue to innovate and come up with new ideas,

00:59:49.130 --> 00:59:50.510
that eventually they're going to get a little

00:59:50.510 --> 00:59:53.170
dangerous. No, because, A, whenever we do stuff,

00:59:53.269 --> 00:59:55.969
we always have experts, obviously. So did we.

00:59:56.690 --> 00:59:59.230
Also, I just don't push it that far. The thing

00:59:59.230 --> 01:00:01.550
is, I'm not just known for doing things like

01:00:01.550 --> 01:00:04.250
that. Some of our videos are philanthropic. We'll

01:00:04.250 --> 01:00:05.889
go buy everything in a store and give it away.

01:00:05.989 --> 01:00:08.030
Other videos, a lot of times, I just punish myself.

01:00:08.349 --> 01:00:11.269
I bury myself alive. I trap myself in solitary

01:00:11.269 --> 01:00:13.409
confinement, stuff like that. And then we have

01:00:13.409 --> 01:00:16.360
other challenges. Like, when we put 50 people

01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:18.360
in a circle, it's not like there's... And the

01:00:18.360 --> 01:00:19.599
last one to leave gets half a million dollars.

01:00:19.679 --> 01:00:22.400
So you have no interest in pushing the envelope.

01:00:22.500 --> 01:00:25.380
Exactly. There are different ways to push the

01:00:25.380 --> 01:00:26.960
envelope besides that, even though that's not

01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:28.719
even really one of the things we do that much.

01:00:29.239 --> 01:00:32.920
So yeah, I can push by giving away more money.

01:00:32.980 --> 01:00:34.719
I can push by torturing myself more. I can push

01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:37.440
by walking a marathon in the world's largest

01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:39.980
shoes. I'm not narrowed into that one vertical.

01:00:40.139 --> 01:00:41.360
So for me, it's not really a concern. The world's

01:00:41.360 --> 01:00:43.460
largest shoes? Is that what you did? Yeah. Pull

01:00:43.460 --> 01:00:45.099
it up so we can see it. They're actually not

01:00:45.099 --> 01:00:48.179
as big as you would think. is they are heavy

01:00:48.179 --> 01:00:51.159
and each shoe was five pounds and so it was brutal

01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:53.940
and i had like these just ginormous blisters

01:00:53.940 --> 01:00:55.800
halfway through the marathon it was miserable

01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:57.900
what do you say the world's largest shoes like

01:00:57.900 --> 01:00:59.780
what do you mean by that it's so much easier

01:00:59.780 --> 01:01:01.320
if you just pull them up they're like size 40

01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:05.900
shoes oh oh the like the largest yeah there you

01:01:05.900 --> 01:01:08.480
go so like go back a little bit so you can see

01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:10.420
the start so it's just like a normal marathon

01:01:10.420 --> 01:01:12.840
yeah and then we just have size 40 shoes these

01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:14.920
things are freaking heavy the problem is if you

01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:18.250
go any bigger then It's like you can't walk because

01:01:18.250 --> 01:01:20.170
they don't bend or whatever. Like flippers. Yeah.

01:01:20.369 --> 01:01:22.110
Have you ever tried to walk with flippers on,

01:01:22.230 --> 01:01:24.090
like snorkeling flippers? I haven't, but that's

01:01:24.090 --> 01:01:26.550
exactly what they told me. So we did size 50,

01:01:26.650 --> 01:01:28.809
size 100, and 50 and 100, you couldn't move.

01:01:28.909 --> 01:01:30.250
So this was as big as they could go where you

01:01:30.250 --> 01:01:32.489
could still move. And we did the marathon. The

01:01:32.489 --> 01:01:34.869
marathon ended. They shut things down. And we

01:01:34.869 --> 01:01:36.989
were still only like, whatever, seven miles in.

01:01:37.150 --> 01:01:40.110
Look at you. Those shoes are fucking hilarious.

01:01:40.409 --> 01:01:43.989
Yeah. And we basically walked it all. How long

01:01:43.989 --> 01:01:46.809
did it take you guys? Oh. I actually don't remember,

01:01:46.989 --> 01:01:50.010
weirdly enough. So halfway through, we actually

01:01:50.010 --> 01:01:53.610
laid down and just slept. So we set up tents

01:01:53.610 --> 01:01:56.389
and stuff like that. Wow. So I guess technically

01:01:56.389 --> 01:01:58.849
probably like 15, 16 hours, but maybe only like

01:01:58.849 --> 01:02:02.489
9 or 10 of walking. Were the shoes destroyed

01:02:02.489 --> 01:02:04.409
at the end? Oh, yeah. See the duct tape? They're

01:02:04.409 --> 01:02:07.289
falling apart. That's hilarious. Why were they

01:02:07.289 --> 01:02:09.929
so... Because those aren't real shoes. We had

01:02:09.929 --> 01:02:13.590
to build them. This guy, we hired to build these

01:02:13.590 --> 01:02:16.130
size 40 shoes that he's never built before. Who

01:02:16.130 --> 01:02:17.369
would have thought halfway through they start

01:02:17.369 --> 01:02:20.369
falling apart? Also, I took a knife and I started

01:02:20.369 --> 01:02:22.329
carving out some of mine because I physically

01:02:22.329 --> 01:02:25.110
couldn't move my calves. They were so heavy.

01:02:25.269 --> 01:02:27.210
So I had to carve out the middle to take some

01:02:27.210 --> 01:02:29.409
weight out because I wasn't going to be able

01:02:29.409 --> 01:02:31.710
to finish if they didn't get lighter. So I carved

01:02:31.710 --> 01:02:35.329
this two -pound part out. So going from five

01:02:35.329 --> 01:02:36.750
to three pounds made a world of a difference

01:02:36.750 --> 01:02:39.130
on that shoe. Yeah, they say that every one pound

01:02:39.130 --> 01:02:41.050
on your feet is like 10 pounds on your back.

01:02:41.190 --> 01:02:42.949
Yeah. That's like a hiking rule. Exactly. It

01:02:42.949 --> 01:02:45.510
was brutal. So someone had to make these for

01:02:45.510 --> 01:02:47.210
you. These are not like a giant shoe that you

01:02:47.210 --> 01:02:49.849
can go buy in a store. Yeah. Now, where did that

01:02:49.849 --> 01:02:53.429
idea come from? That was years ago. God, if I

01:02:53.429 --> 01:02:55.449
know. Just being silly. Yeah, I mean, I literally

01:02:55.449 --> 01:02:57.429
have spent so many hours. Like, I've probably

01:02:57.429 --> 01:02:59.489
spent 10 ,000 hours of my life brainstorming

01:02:59.489 --> 01:03:01.269
ideas. Like, I don't know where any of this stuff

01:03:01.269 --> 01:03:03.389
comes from anymore. I just have, like, you know,

01:03:03.449 --> 01:03:05.269
I have a sheet with, like, 1 ,000 ideas on it.

01:03:05.269 --> 01:03:07.690
Probably, like, 200, like, super ultra viral

01:03:07.690 --> 01:03:09.050
video ideas that anyone could do and they would

01:03:09.050 --> 01:03:11.650
instantly go viral. Just, like, sitting on a

01:03:11.650 --> 01:03:14.409
Google Doc. Really? Just waiting? So you have

01:03:14.409 --> 01:03:17.250
no lack of content? No, we have unlimited. The

01:03:17.250 --> 01:03:19.469
bottleneck is more can we do it? Not really like

01:03:19.469 --> 01:03:21.070
do we have our ideas, which is backwards for

01:03:21.070 --> 01:03:22.449
most people. Most people just don't have good

01:03:22.449 --> 01:03:25.550
ideas. Right. So with the bottleneck, can you

01:03:25.550 --> 01:03:28.309
do it because is it physically possible or is

01:03:28.309 --> 01:03:30.590
it? They're just hard. Like that's back when

01:03:30.590 --> 01:03:32.690
my videos were easier. But the videos obviously

01:03:32.690 --> 01:03:34.670
have gotten harder and harder. So like the Squid

01:03:34.670 --> 01:03:37.110
Game video, it's just like. Yeah. It's not can

01:03:37.110 --> 01:03:39.269
we do it. Can we do it while also doing other

01:03:39.269 --> 01:03:42.309
videos? What's this, Jamie? If you can carry

01:03:42.309 --> 01:03:45.010
a million dollars, you can keep it. Yeah, we

01:03:45.010 --> 01:03:46.409
got a million dollars, and we basically told

01:03:46.409 --> 01:03:47.989
people as much cash as they could carry, they

01:03:47.989 --> 01:03:49.889
could keep. And we just gave them a bag. How

01:03:49.889 --> 01:03:53.579
much does a million dollars weigh? What's the

01:03:53.579 --> 01:03:56.440
denomination? $1, obviously, because it looks

01:03:56.440 --> 01:03:58.980
better. Is that a million dollars and $1 in that

01:03:58.980 --> 01:04:01.119
room? And that was just one part of it. And that's

01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:04.079
the thing. So now this is a three -time World's

01:04:04.079 --> 01:04:06.260
Strongest Man. If he can deadlift this car, we

01:04:06.260 --> 01:04:09.119
let him keep it. And this is what we call Would

01:04:09.119 --> 01:04:11.079
You Rather. We do a bunch of super interesting

01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:15.230
bits. So just skip ahead to where he actually

01:04:15.230 --> 01:04:17.670
deadlifts it. So if he can deadlift the car,

01:04:17.809 --> 01:04:19.989
you let him keep the car? Yeah, which he could.

01:04:20.110 --> 01:04:21.849
Oh, he deadlifts it easy. Yeah, he actually did

01:04:21.849 --> 01:04:24.230
reps with it. Look at the size of that fucking

01:04:24.230 --> 01:04:27.130
gorilla. I know. Jesus Christ, he's so big. He's

01:04:27.130 --> 01:04:30.130
doing dead reps with the car. That is fucking

01:04:30.130 --> 01:04:32.909
bananas. Oh, my God. Look at the size of him.

01:04:33.110 --> 01:04:34.650
He keeps skimming through. Is there any other?

01:04:34.750 --> 01:04:36.610
So you give him a car. That's nice. Yeah. Barely

01:04:36.610 --> 01:04:39.070
fits in it. Look at this. I know. That was the

01:04:39.070 --> 01:04:42.889
funny part. It was easier for him to deadlift

01:04:42.889 --> 01:04:44.730
the car than sit in it. Have you ever seen what

01:04:44.730 --> 01:04:47.150
Shaq does with his cars? He takes out the back

01:04:47.150 --> 01:04:50.570
seats and he has a seat. That makes sense. I've

01:04:50.570 --> 01:04:53.050
seen custom cars they've made for him where the

01:04:53.050 --> 01:04:55.849
seat basically sits where the back seat should

01:04:55.849 --> 01:04:58.769
be because he's so big. Have you seen the clip

01:04:58.769 --> 01:05:00.809
where he holds a water bottle and it looks tiny?

01:05:01.329 --> 01:05:03.449
Yeah, dude. We did a video. We showed a video

01:05:03.449 --> 01:05:06.110
the other day of me and him doing Fear Factor

01:05:06.110 --> 01:05:07.530
because he was a host on Fear Factor with me

01:05:07.530 --> 01:05:09.989
one day. It literally looks like a six -year

01:05:09.989 --> 01:05:12.510
-old standing next to his dad. dad. He's a gigantic

01:05:12.510 --> 01:05:16.030
human being. So when you're doing these videos,

01:05:16.190 --> 01:05:19.670
do you ever have one that you do it and it just

01:05:19.670 --> 01:05:22.090
doesn't live up to what your expectations were?

01:05:22.250 --> 01:05:24.510
All the time. Now, I know you're about to ask

01:05:24.510 --> 01:05:29.469
me, so let me think of some. Probably back in

01:05:29.469 --> 01:05:31.489
the day, one out of every four videos we filmed

01:05:31.489 --> 01:05:33.150
just never got uploaded because they were just

01:05:33.150 --> 01:05:36.849
not good. Especially when I was 19 and 20, I

01:05:36.849 --> 01:05:39.610
had no idea. I'd come up with an idea. Let's

01:05:39.610 --> 01:05:41.639
climb a building with plungers right right and

01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:43.699
then you know you can't do it all right so that's

01:05:43.699 --> 01:05:45.639
an example one that failed but then other times

01:05:45.639 --> 01:05:48.579
like we spent 24 hours on a deserted island and

01:05:48.579 --> 01:05:50.519
i don't know the content wasn't really there

01:05:50.519 --> 01:05:52.360
it's kind of hot and so we were a little miserable

01:05:52.360 --> 01:05:53.860
and we weren't really like in the funny mood

01:05:53.860 --> 01:05:56.300
so like literally two days later we just went

01:05:56.300 --> 01:05:58.699
back out and redid it and re -spent 24 hours

01:05:58.699 --> 01:06:00.599
on a deserted island and so sometimes we're like

01:06:00.599 --> 01:06:02.300
if i don't think the content's good enough we'll

01:06:02.300 --> 01:06:05.000
just refilm it and stuff like that and so do

01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:06.800
you review it with your friends do you review

01:06:06.800 --> 01:06:08.619
it personally or how do you just usually it's

01:06:08.619 --> 01:06:10.699
just me So you just sit down and go, this is

01:06:10.699 --> 01:06:13.300
not up to my standards. Yeah, exactly. That's

01:06:13.300 --> 01:06:15.639
one thing I've never struggled with. If I don't

01:06:15.639 --> 01:06:17.840
think something's good and the best we can do

01:06:17.840 --> 01:06:19.519
and a revolutionary audience will love it, I

01:06:19.519 --> 01:06:21.380
have no problem killing a video even if we spent

01:06:21.380 --> 01:06:23.159
a million dollars on it. I think that's probably

01:06:23.159 --> 01:06:25.360
one of the main reasons for your success other

01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:27.820
than your obsession and your dedication and discipline

01:06:27.820 --> 01:06:32.539
is that you don't have to answer to anybody.

01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:37.019
I don't know how many... People could do what

01:06:37.019 --> 01:06:39.940
you do like in to get to your position is very

01:06:39.940 --> 01:06:41.460
unique and one of the beautiful things about

01:06:41.460 --> 01:06:43.340
something like YouTube is that you can get there

01:06:43.340 --> 01:06:46.460
because other Then this, like, if you worked

01:06:46.460 --> 01:06:49.460
for, you know, if this was a show on NBC or something

01:06:49.460 --> 01:06:51.900
like that, you would have to run this by so many

01:06:51.900 --> 01:06:55.179
people. I'd kill myself. You'd have so many kitchen

01:06:55.179 --> 01:06:58.219
staff in there trying to put their ingredient

01:06:58.219 --> 01:07:00.420
in the soup. There'd be so many chefs. They'd

01:07:00.420 --> 01:07:02.320
want to standardize things. So it's replicable,

01:07:02.500 --> 01:07:04.539
and that's how you kill innovation. Yeah. And

01:07:04.539 --> 01:07:06.159
then they would also say, like, what do you think

01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:09.099
about us doing another show similar to yours?

01:07:09.099 --> 01:07:12.369
Maybe one of your friends hosting. Yeah. Branch

01:07:12.369 --> 01:07:15.690
offs, yeah. It's brutal. Yeah. I get that vibe.

01:07:16.289 --> 01:07:17.530
It's funny you bring it up because that's the

01:07:17.530 --> 01:07:19.730
world you came from. I get that vibe sometimes

01:07:19.730 --> 01:07:21.869
when we work with production crews, and I kind

01:07:21.869 --> 01:07:23.409
of see a little bit of that world, how it's a

01:07:23.409 --> 01:07:26.710
lot more standardized. When you work with production

01:07:26.710 --> 01:07:29.050
crews, do they come up with ideas? You're like,

01:07:29.170 --> 01:07:32.130
hey, hey, hey. It's not what you're here for.

01:07:33.340 --> 01:07:35.820
What am I trying to say? It's like they're used

01:07:35.820 --> 01:07:37.639
to scripted stuff, and we're not scripted. So

01:07:37.639 --> 01:07:40.599
it's like they just like, you don't know. Yeah,

01:07:40.940 --> 01:07:43.159
we're planning on it taking two hours. The fucking

01:07:43.159 --> 01:07:44.820
thing could take 20 hours. I don't fucking know

01:07:44.820 --> 01:07:47.360
whatever this hypothetical scene is, right? And

01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:49.900
so kind of the way we do things to them, it just

01:07:49.900 --> 01:07:51.820
seems so barbaric. But it's like that's how you

01:07:51.820 --> 01:07:54.079
get that natural, authentic stuff that's not

01:07:54.079 --> 01:07:55.980
scripted. And if you do work with a production

01:07:55.980 --> 01:07:57.920
company, then you have to deal with, I guess,

01:07:57.960 --> 01:08:01.039
unions and time. They have a certain amount of

01:08:01.039 --> 01:08:03.139
time on set. It seems like... You work until

01:08:03.139 --> 01:08:05.389
you get it done. Yeah, usually. Yeah. Well, so

01:08:05.389 --> 01:08:07.309
actually what we do is, and this is probably

01:08:07.309 --> 01:08:10.289
one of the smartest things we've done, is we

01:08:10.289 --> 01:08:12.289
have multiple different teams that we're working

01:08:12.289 --> 01:08:14.670
on building out. So they rotate videos. So team

01:08:14.670 --> 01:08:17.170
A will do hypothetically, whatever, Antarctica.

01:08:17.590 --> 01:08:20.170
And then team B isn't on the Antarctica video

01:08:20.170 --> 01:08:21.430
and they're working on the next video. And then

01:08:21.430 --> 01:08:23.050
while I'm filming with team B, team A is working

01:08:23.050 --> 01:08:24.810
on their video. So they like rotate. So that

01:08:24.810 --> 01:08:27.250
way, and I'm trying to build out full, fully

01:08:27.250 --> 01:08:29.149
fledged production teams, creative teams, editing

01:08:29.149 --> 01:08:31.329
teams, all super independent. So then I can do

01:08:31.329 --> 01:08:32.850
a video a month and each team's only responsible

01:08:32.850 --> 01:08:35.439
for one video. Which that's plenty of time to

01:08:35.439 --> 01:08:37.420
like get a video done and you know and you have

01:08:37.420 --> 01:08:39.060
downtime in between your videos and stuff like

01:08:39.060 --> 01:08:41.739
that Instead of like most youtubers. It's just

01:08:41.739 --> 01:08:43.159
one team and they're trying to have them do it

01:08:43.159 --> 01:08:45.840
all which just honestly isn't sustainable Yeah,

01:08:45.880 --> 01:08:48.600
well it seems like in your when you're looking

01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:51.699
at This business that you've built, it's so large.

01:08:51.819 --> 01:08:53.340
There's no way you could just have one team.

01:08:53.439 --> 01:08:55.199
They'd be dead. Well, you'd be surprised. That's

01:08:55.199 --> 01:08:56.779
how everyone else is building theirs. Really?

01:08:56.979 --> 01:09:00.159
Yeah. People who try to do what we do. It's hard

01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:03.560
enough to build one team. Building multiple ones,

01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:05.800
it's a lot. Do you have a lot of guys that are

01:09:05.800 --> 01:09:08.479
trying to copy the format that you've put together?

01:09:09.859 --> 01:09:13.800
Yeah. The thing is... It doesn't matter. It doesn't

01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:15.199
really affect me. I don't like to waste energy

01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:17.140
worrying about that type of stuff. At the end

01:09:17.140 --> 01:09:19.319
of the day, it doesn't hurt me, so go for it.

01:09:19.359 --> 01:09:20.840
It actually probably helps you. Yeah, exactly.

01:09:20.859 --> 01:09:22.420
Because everyone gets compared to Mr. Beast.

01:09:22.579 --> 01:09:24.659
Yeah, a lot of YouTubers get triggered when other

01:09:24.659 --> 01:09:26.920
people quote -unquote take their ideas or whatever.

01:09:27.180 --> 01:09:29.439
Do they, though? They really do. I mean, that's

01:09:29.439 --> 01:09:31.520
like all the time. Someone will do something.

01:09:31.899 --> 01:09:33.720
And it's funny. It's usually people who copy

01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:35.399
tons of other YouTubers, and they do one thing

01:09:35.399 --> 01:09:36.880
original, and then some other people take it,

01:09:36.899 --> 01:09:39.390
and they just throw a hissy fit. Yeah. probably

01:09:39.390 --> 01:09:41.130
get attention from throwing the hissy whenever

01:09:41.130 --> 01:09:44.210
we do something usually like thousands or at

01:09:44.210 --> 01:09:46.210
least hundreds of other people do it and of course

01:09:46.210 --> 01:09:48.850
yeah it's part of it yeah but when you do something

01:09:48.850 --> 01:09:51.609
like the squid games thing like there's no way

01:09:51.609 --> 01:09:54.229
anybody can yeah but see technically that's not

01:09:54.229 --> 01:09:56.189
an original idea you know what i mean so i saw

01:09:56.189 --> 01:09:59.609
some really bitchy take on your squid game thing

01:09:59.609 --> 01:10:02.189
that you're copying other people's content that

01:10:02.189 --> 01:10:03.930
he's profiting off of copying other people's

01:10:03.930 --> 01:10:06.710
content and it's from a comedian i was like shut

01:10:06.710 --> 01:10:09.279
your mouth like well that You think that's easy,

01:10:09.359 --> 01:10:10.779
what he's doing? This is so crazy. Also, the

01:10:10.779 --> 01:10:13.180
guy who wrote Squid Game said he loved people

01:10:13.180 --> 01:10:15.819
doing recreations of Squid Game. Literally, he

01:10:15.819 --> 01:10:17.439
did an interview. He was like, I love it. And

01:10:17.439 --> 01:10:19.579
he encouraged it. Well, it's just a hater's take.

01:10:19.899 --> 01:10:23.020
Yeah, but it's not even logical. The actual creator

01:10:23.020 --> 01:10:24.539
of the show was like, hey, do this. And it's

01:10:24.539 --> 01:10:26.260
like, okay, if you insist. Haters are never logical.

01:10:26.760 --> 01:10:30.180
But the point was, when you get to the position

01:10:30.180 --> 01:10:32.800
where you're at, you must have a lot of haters.

01:10:34.119 --> 01:10:36.079
I don't really pay attention to it. Good for

01:10:36.079 --> 01:10:38.560
you. That's a great attitude. Yeah. That's what

01:10:38.560 --> 01:10:39.880
I like to hear. It's kind of a waste of time.

01:10:40.100 --> 01:10:42.899
It's 100 % a waste of time. It's so stupid, but

01:10:42.899 --> 01:10:46.079
it's so common for people to concentrate on that

01:10:46.079 --> 01:10:48.560
and make response videos. I wouldn't be a fraction.

01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:52.359
But also, we don't really, to be honest. And

01:10:52.359 --> 01:10:56.180
most people are positive about it. We help people.

01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:57.779
You know what I mean? Yes. I reinvest everything

01:10:57.779 --> 01:10:59.899
I don't live in a mansion, and I just try to

01:10:59.899 --> 01:11:02.340
make the best videos I can. And tell me about

01:11:02.340 --> 01:11:04.819
– you just touched on it earlier, your philanthropy

01:11:04.819 --> 01:11:08.119
channel. How did that get started, and what are

01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:10.899
you trying to do with that? Yes, if you want

01:11:10.899 --> 01:11:14.399
to pull that up. So basically, I don't know.

01:11:14.460 --> 01:11:17.119
I enjoy helping people. It's fun for me. It's

01:11:17.119 --> 01:11:21.140
kind of like – I don't know. I just – I don't

01:11:21.140 --> 01:11:23.300
know how to put it into words, but I enjoy doing

01:11:23.300 --> 01:11:25.899
good. Well, you're a good person. Yeah, so I

01:11:25.899 --> 01:11:27.300
wanted to figure out, like, I have this ability

01:11:27.300 --> 01:11:30.060
to go viral and get views. And so I wanted to

01:11:30.060 --> 01:11:31.859
figure out how to leverage it to, like, basically

01:11:31.859 --> 01:11:33.699
build a charity on the back. So this is Beast

01:11:33.699 --> 01:11:35.600
Philanthropy. 100 % of all the revenue on this

01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:38.079
channel goes towards our food pantry that we

01:11:38.079 --> 01:11:41.460
started. So we basically started our own nonprofit.

01:11:41.880 --> 01:11:44.220
And so I make these videos. I do brand deals.

01:11:44.260 --> 01:11:46.220
We sell merch and stuff like that in the ad revenue.

01:11:46.340 --> 01:11:48.680
And we use that money to buy food so we can feed

01:11:48.680 --> 01:11:51.600
people. And you say food. pantry like there's

01:11:51.600 --> 01:11:53.619
a sign so that's a physical location yeah so

01:11:53.619 --> 01:11:56.279
we have our own warehouse um where hover over

01:11:56.279 --> 01:11:59.899
a different video does see and how how does it

01:11:59.899 --> 01:12:01.300
work like people could just go there and get

01:12:01.300 --> 01:12:06.060
food no no so basically so so this is where I'll

01:12:06.060 --> 01:12:10.100
have to we We're in North Carolina. There's actually

01:12:10.100 --> 01:12:11.699
not a lot of big cities, a lot of little cities.

01:12:11.819 --> 01:12:14.060
So we actually have like in our city, we have

01:12:14.060 --> 01:12:15.779
the 14th largest hospital in America, even though

01:12:15.779 --> 01:12:17.560
we're like a tiny city, because there's a bunch

01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:19.539
of small communities around. It makes sense to

01:12:19.539 --> 01:12:21.359
have people come from these little communities

01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:22.920
to a big hospital instead of building a bunch

01:12:22.920 --> 01:12:25.220
of little ones. And so we kind of the same model

01:12:25.220 --> 01:12:28.100
with our food pantry where instead of. you know,

01:12:28.100 --> 01:12:30.020
supporting a big city, which most big cities

01:12:30.020 --> 01:12:31.840
already have food pantries there. There's all

01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:33.239
these little communities that weren't big enough

01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:34.960
where people would actually give a fuck or help

01:12:34.960 --> 01:12:36.180
them because it just, you know, doesn't make

01:12:36.180 --> 01:12:37.479
sense. A couple thousand people or whatever.

01:12:37.680 --> 01:12:40.789
So we built. a big food pantry in a central location.

01:12:41.050 --> 01:12:43.729
And we're more of a logistics company. We'll

01:12:43.729 --> 01:12:46.970
pick a certain community, like Grimesland. Every

01:12:46.970 --> 01:12:49.149
Saturday, we'll load up food. We'll go there.

01:12:49.270 --> 01:12:50.729
And then the people in need, we'll do a food

01:12:50.729 --> 01:12:52.289
drive and basically give them three different

01:12:52.289 --> 01:12:54.630
boxes of food, a box of dairy products, pantry,

01:12:54.850 --> 01:12:57.390
and vegetables. And then we come back two weeks

01:12:57.390 --> 01:12:59.529
later and give them food. So basically, they

01:12:59.529 --> 01:13:01.689
can just live off the food we supply them. And

01:13:01.689 --> 01:13:03.270
we do that to a bunch of little communities.

01:13:03.510 --> 01:13:06.250
And we just crossed one year of operation, and

01:13:06.250 --> 01:13:07.630
we were able to give away over a million meals

01:13:07.630 --> 01:13:09.569
in our first year. That's fantastic. Oh, yeah.

01:13:09.609 --> 01:13:13.210
So in those boxes. This one was a special episode.

01:13:13.250 --> 01:13:15.550
Someone gave us 50 ,000 cookies. Go back, though,

01:13:15.649 --> 01:13:18.310
to where the boxes were. Back one more. Yeah,

01:13:18.369 --> 01:13:20.329
right there. So that's what we give to everyone

01:13:20.329 --> 01:13:22.149
that comes to the food drive completely for free.

01:13:22.189 --> 01:13:23.949
We've never charged the fucking person a dime

01:13:23.949 --> 01:13:26.630
for food. That's enough to survive two weeks.

01:13:26.710 --> 01:13:28.670
And it's good, nutritious food. We actually invest

01:13:28.670 --> 01:13:30.630
in – we got a really nice fridge too so we can

01:13:30.630 --> 01:13:32.430
like – which most food pantries don't have. So

01:13:32.430 --> 01:13:34.609
we can store a lot of cold goods like vegetables

01:13:34.609 --> 01:13:38.289
and dairy products. Also, some of these places,

01:13:38.409 --> 01:13:40.050
their food pantries went under. And so we come

01:13:40.050 --> 01:13:41.770
in and we take over for the old food pantries.

01:13:41.789 --> 01:13:43.409
And people love when we do because you go from

01:13:43.409 --> 01:13:45.710
like a box of – I don't want to dumpster on them,

01:13:45.770 --> 01:13:48.130
but average stuff to like – getting like fucking

01:13:48.130 --> 01:13:50.869
milk and dairy and yogurt and also like all these

01:13:50.869 --> 01:13:52.430
vegetables they're like what the fuck this is

01:13:52.430 --> 01:13:54.390
free it's like over a hundred dollars worth of

01:13:54.390 --> 01:13:58.550
food um And so, yeah, it's been great. That's

01:13:58.550 --> 01:14:00.409
awesome. So how does this work? Like if someone

01:14:00.409 --> 01:14:02.670
wants to go to the food pantry to get food? You

01:14:02.670 --> 01:14:04.989
don't go to the food pantry. We do distributions

01:14:04.989 --> 01:14:07.810
where we go to places in low -income places and

01:14:07.810 --> 01:14:09.789
do distributions. And so you would just come

01:14:09.789 --> 01:14:11.449
to the distribution, and you just sit in your

01:14:11.449 --> 01:14:13.109
car, pop your trunk, we put food in, and you

01:14:13.109 --> 01:14:16.430
drive off. So you just set up a shop, like a

01:14:16.430 --> 01:14:18.489
stand on the side of the road? No, no, no. So

01:14:18.489 --> 01:14:21.789
they're scheduled. The communities are notified

01:14:21.789 --> 01:14:24.789
beforehand. Is that line a bunch of people waiting

01:14:24.789 --> 01:14:26.630
for food? Yeah, this was a special one we did

01:14:26.630 --> 01:14:28.630
for Thanksgiving where we gave away 10 ,000 turkeys

01:14:28.630 --> 01:14:31.550
for free. That is so awesome, dude. Yeah, well,

01:14:31.609 --> 01:14:34.989
this isn't our normal thing. But, yeah, basically

01:14:34.989 --> 01:14:38.529
you go there. It will be in the church parking

01:14:38.529 --> 01:14:40.850
lot. How do these people find out about this?

01:14:40.850 --> 01:14:42.350
Well, that's the thing. Your first food drive,

01:14:42.470 --> 01:14:44.430
it's not as many people. But word spreads as

01:14:44.430 --> 01:14:46.229
you do them. And you consistently show up at

01:14:46.229 --> 01:14:48.550
the same time every second week. And people just

01:14:48.550 --> 01:14:50.289
come and come. And eventually hundreds of families

01:14:50.289 --> 01:14:52.250
come. Look at the line there. That's nuts. Yeah.

01:14:52.800 --> 01:14:55.600
This one, because it was a bigger thing, we actually

01:14:55.600 --> 01:14:58.760
bought ads and spread it out. You got people

01:14:58.760 --> 01:15:02.520
in turkey outfits. Yeah. That's a... turkey holocaust

01:15:02.520 --> 01:15:03.960
right there look at all those dead turkeys i

01:15:03.960 --> 01:15:07.880
know um hey i mean people ate it's amazing it's

01:15:07.880 --> 01:15:09.779
very cool that you did this it's very cool and

01:15:09.779 --> 01:15:11.819
you see these people where you're oh you even

01:15:11.819 --> 01:15:13.880
made a turkey yeah these people that are waiting

01:15:13.880 --> 01:15:16.020
in line for these turkeys but this isn't our

01:15:16.020 --> 01:15:18.239
normal thing so it's like i said it's the the

01:15:18.239 --> 01:15:20.819
distributions we do with the other food so essentially

01:15:20.819 --> 01:15:23.399
like i want to grow this channel really big get

01:15:23.399 --> 01:15:25.960
it where you know it's pulling millions of dollars

01:15:25.960 --> 01:15:28.319
a month in revenue and do tons of brand deals

01:15:28.319 --> 01:15:29.840
and stuff like that and then just basically use

01:15:29.840 --> 01:15:31.840
that money to buy food and feed as many people

01:15:31.840 --> 01:15:34.720
as we can. That's so cool. I love it, man. I

01:15:34.720 --> 01:15:37.199
just love that you do that. And that turkey thing

01:15:37.199 --> 01:15:38.880
when you're out there, like how long does that

01:15:38.880 --> 01:15:41.720
take to get turkeys to that many people? I mean,

01:15:41.720 --> 01:15:43.500
that was like a four or five hour food drive.

01:15:43.640 --> 01:15:45.220
I mean, we're pretty efficient with the lines

01:15:45.220 --> 01:15:47.479
and getting through it. Did you run out of turkeys?

01:15:48.119 --> 01:15:51.199
No, actually we had 10 ,000. I don't remember

01:15:51.199 --> 01:15:52.960
the number, but we had a few thousand left over

01:15:52.960 --> 01:15:55.760
that we then went to other food pantries and

01:15:55.760 --> 01:15:57.100
we gave to them to give to their communities.

01:15:57.840 --> 01:16:00.420
That's so cool. Yeah. And do you have someone

01:16:00.420 --> 01:16:02.859
who organizes that for you? Oh, of course. Like

01:16:02.859 --> 01:16:05.699
a philanthropy manager or something? So his name's

01:16:05.699 --> 01:16:07.520
Darren, which also shout out to Darren. He's

01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:09.439
literally the greatest thing that's ever happened

01:16:09.439 --> 01:16:12.760
to me. This guy's a fucking lunatic. He won't

01:16:12.760 --> 01:16:14.520
let me pay him for working on the charity. He's

01:16:14.520 --> 01:16:16.380
like that. What? In love with helping people.

01:16:16.520 --> 01:16:19.159
Yeah. And he puts in like 10 hours a day. Every

01:16:19.159 --> 01:16:20.640
day he's a machine. You couldn't stop him if

01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:23.960
you wanted to. He loves helping people. That's

01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:27.340
so cool. So he built it out. So I met him. kind

01:16:27.340 --> 01:16:28.720
of stole him from a different nonprofit because

01:16:28.720 --> 01:16:30.340
I met him and I loved him. I was like, fuck yeah,

01:16:30.420 --> 01:16:32.319
there's not another person in the world I'd rather

01:16:32.319 --> 01:16:34.420
have run Beast Philanthropy. And so now, yeah,

01:16:34.479 --> 01:16:37.500
it's its own thing. You know, we have people

01:16:37.500 --> 01:16:39.680
that work in the pantry, logistics people and

01:16:39.680 --> 01:16:44.239
stuff like that. Wow. And how does one procure

01:16:44.239 --> 01:16:47.560
10 ,000 turkeys? Well, that one, again, this

01:16:47.560 --> 01:16:49.060
is why the beauty of Beast Fenty, that was a

01:16:49.060 --> 01:16:50.840
sponsored video by Genio, which is a company

01:16:50.840 --> 01:16:52.680
that sells turkeys. And so we got them to give

01:16:52.680 --> 01:16:54.819
us 10 ,000 turkeys plus money to feed people

01:16:54.819 --> 01:16:57.920
for free in exchange for a shout out in the video.

01:16:58.199 --> 01:17:00.640
Oh, that's amazing. That's brilliant. Exactly.

01:17:01.159 --> 01:17:03.680
And so you do all this, you have this food drive,

01:17:03.800 --> 01:17:07.899
and then people know, okay, that this is a regular

01:17:07.899 --> 01:17:09.699
thing. Exactly. And then it builds up. The turkey

01:17:09.699 --> 01:17:11.300
thing isn't. That was a thing that was special.

01:17:11.460 --> 01:17:13.079
But normally, yeah, exactly. And the more you

01:17:13.079 --> 01:17:14.859
do it, the more people come. And then we just

01:17:14.859 --> 01:17:17.220
guesstimate the numbers and average it out and

01:17:17.220 --> 01:17:19.159
usually bring a little extra just in case more

01:17:19.159 --> 01:17:21.439
people come this week than others. And he just

01:17:21.439 --> 01:17:22.939
does that routinely. And right now we're doing

01:17:22.939 --> 01:17:25.699
that for like 13 communities. And then we're

01:17:25.699 --> 01:17:28.119
going to build another food pantry and scale

01:17:28.119 --> 01:17:30.279
that up and just keep scaling up. Also, I don't

01:17:30.279 --> 01:17:32.369
want to. Just do North Carolina. Our next food

01:17:32.369 --> 01:17:34.130
pantry is going to be in Atlanta and then hopefully

01:17:34.130 --> 01:17:36.229
get out of America and just keep scaling them

01:17:36.229 --> 01:17:39.229
up. Wow. So you just keep everything you're doing.

01:17:39.250 --> 01:17:42.289
You just keep expanding and scaling up. Exactly.

01:17:42.409 --> 01:17:44.729
Because I'm not trying to make money. So it's

01:17:44.729 --> 01:17:47.529
easy. That's so unusual. Well, also, that's a

01:17:47.529 --> 01:17:49.609
charity. So all the money goes back into it.

01:17:49.630 --> 01:17:51.829
Yeah, exactly. It's so unusual that someone is

01:17:51.829 --> 01:17:54.310
so selfless and then that you have the vision

01:17:54.310 --> 01:17:56.829
to just. I'm not trying to make money. I'm just

01:17:56.829 --> 01:17:59.029
trying to grow the company. In that particular

01:17:59.029 --> 01:18:01.149
one, I'd be fucked if I didn't have Darren. He's

01:18:01.149 --> 01:18:04.189
just a lunatic. He's literally one of the smartest

01:18:04.189 --> 01:18:05.689
people I've ever met. The fact that he has such

01:18:05.689 --> 01:18:08.949
a philanthropic heart. The dude could probably

01:18:08.949 --> 01:18:10.710
make $5 -10 million a year working in a normal

01:18:10.710 --> 01:18:12.409
business, but he dedicates his life to charity.

01:18:12.510 --> 01:18:15.109
I don't understand it, but I love him. Obviously,

01:18:15.710 --> 01:18:18.930
it means something to him. It's important. This

01:18:18.930 --> 01:18:22.970
charity that you do with the food bank, how many

01:18:22.970 --> 01:18:25.350
employees are involved in that? He would know

01:18:25.350 --> 01:18:28.609
better. I'm not in the weeds because, like, this

01:18:28.609 --> 01:18:29.609
is where you have to think about strategically.

01:18:29.890 --> 01:18:32.569
The most optimal, like, you know, in a perfect

01:18:32.569 --> 01:18:34.050
world, I could be on the front lines going to

01:18:34.050 --> 01:18:35.529
the food drive getting my food. But the most

01:18:35.529 --> 01:18:37.369
valuable use of my time is to make videos to

01:18:37.369 --> 01:18:40.130
generate revenue to buy food, right? So I'm more

01:18:40.130 --> 01:18:41.850
doing high -level things like figuring out what's

01:18:41.850 --> 01:18:43.430
the next viral stunt for the charity so we can

01:18:43.430 --> 01:18:44.890
do a brand deal and get a couple hundred grand

01:18:44.890 --> 01:18:46.670
in and stuff like that. I'm not really in the

01:18:46.670 --> 01:18:48.590
weeds of, like, how are we going to do this food

01:18:48.590 --> 01:18:50.649
distribution tomorrow or, like, this ship insulates

01:18:50.649 --> 01:18:53.189
or blah, blah, blah, this. But probably somewhere

01:18:53.189 --> 01:18:54.829
around a dozen right now because we're only at

01:18:54.829 --> 01:18:58.289
one warehouse. And you eventually plan on going

01:18:58.289 --> 01:19:00.489
worldwide? Yeah, exactly. Just scaling it up.

01:19:00.770 --> 01:19:02.949
Because by watching those videos, you're essentially

01:19:02.949 --> 01:19:05.109
feeding people, literally, because all the revenue

01:19:05.109 --> 01:19:08.310
goes to it. So I think we can get to the point

01:19:08.310 --> 01:19:10.250
where we're supporting a dozen of these and just

01:19:10.250 --> 01:19:12.510
keep going bigger and bigger. That's so cool.

01:19:14.670 --> 01:19:17.430
like i don't know this is just what this is what

01:19:17.430 --> 01:19:19.710
i do all day so i just come up with these ideas

01:19:19.710 --> 01:19:21.649
no i didn't come up it's just like i mean that's

01:19:21.649 --> 01:19:23.229
something i was passionate about passionate about

01:19:23.229 --> 01:19:25.789
youtube essentially but like that's like a parallel

01:19:25.789 --> 01:19:28.069
thing right like i've already put in the hundred

01:19:28.069 --> 01:19:30.069
thousand hours and obsessed over youtube so it's

01:19:30.069 --> 01:19:32.489
like building a channel that like let we leverage

01:19:32.489 --> 01:19:34.829
to grow our charity like isn't as crazy because

01:19:34.829 --> 01:19:36.750
like i already know all this stuff you know what

01:19:36.750 --> 01:19:38.710
i mean like how to go viral and and that type

01:19:38.710 --> 01:19:41.489
of stuff that's so dope dude i just love the

01:19:41.489 --> 01:19:43.229
vision that you have for this it's because it's

01:19:43.229 --> 01:19:46.229
so unusual for a young person to have such a

01:19:46.229 --> 01:19:49.710
clarity and focus. Yeah, well, pull up MrBeastGaming.

01:19:49.729 --> 01:19:50.930
I want to show you some of the other stuff too

01:19:50.930 --> 01:19:53.010
because it's like the main channel isn't even

01:19:53.010 --> 01:19:55.970
all we do. We have one of the largest gaming

01:19:55.970 --> 01:19:57.630
channels on YouTube and one of the largest reaction

01:19:57.630 --> 01:19:59.829
channels on YouTube as well. So it's like I actually

01:19:59.829 --> 01:20:01.569
spend a fuckload of my time every week filming

01:20:01.569 --> 01:20:05.170
because we have five different channels. So this

01:20:05.170 --> 01:20:07.170
is our gaming channel. Just hit videos so you

01:20:07.170 --> 01:20:09.630
can see them. These actually go really viral.

01:20:09.810 --> 01:20:11.869
And so we basically apply what we do in real

01:20:11.869 --> 01:20:15.689
life to gaming. We invited 1 ,000 v. 1 ,000.

01:20:15.689 --> 01:20:18.250
We invited 1 ,000 players to fight against another

01:20:18.250 --> 01:20:20.109
1 ,000 players, and the winner gets a bunch of

01:20:20.109 --> 01:20:25.310
money or whatever. And so these do really well.

01:20:25.369 --> 01:20:27.510
Actually, we recreated Squid Game in Minecraft

01:20:27.510 --> 01:20:32.300
as well. And so usually... On Mondays, I film

01:20:32.300 --> 01:20:34.760
for gaming. On Tuesdays, I film for Reacts. And

01:20:34.760 --> 01:20:37.060
then I do World once we're uploading again. Wednesday

01:20:37.060 --> 01:20:39.319
through Fridays, I film on the main channel.

01:20:39.520 --> 01:20:41.899
And then Saturdays when I do Beast Burger, Feastables,

01:20:41.960 --> 01:20:44.359
and all my side businesses, I take calls. And

01:20:44.359 --> 01:20:46.600
then I try not to work on Sunday. How much energy

01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:49.539
do you have to do this? Not enough. I'm constantly

01:20:49.539 --> 01:20:52.840
losing my mind. But it's all self -implied. And

01:20:52.840 --> 01:20:55.000
at any point, I could stop. So it's like no one's

01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:57.239
forcing me. But it's just like, it's just...

01:20:57.430 --> 01:20:59.630
I don't know. It's like if I don't, I get depressed.

01:21:00.029 --> 01:21:02.930
Really? Yeah. It's like this is what I live for.

01:21:02.989 --> 01:21:04.430
I don't know how to put it in words. Because

01:21:04.430 --> 01:21:06.510
of the fact that you've just generated such an

01:21:06.510 --> 01:21:09.170
immense audience and it's just become. Yeah.

01:21:09.250 --> 01:21:11.029
And so I hit videos here. So this is our reaction,

01:21:11.109 --> 01:21:13.090
which also averages over 10 million views a video.

01:21:13.310 --> 01:21:16.720
Wow. So this is all just look at that. So this

01:21:16.720 --> 01:21:19.359
is all just you looking at stuff online. Yeah,

01:21:19.399 --> 01:21:21.979
whatever we think is interesting. So like, you

01:21:21.979 --> 01:21:23.659
know, world's unluckiest people. The eight minutes

01:21:23.659 --> 01:21:25.340
of us just reacting to people is super unlucky

01:21:25.340 --> 01:21:28.619
and stuff like that. And that's one of my best

01:21:28.619 --> 01:21:30.899
friends, Chris. It's actually, I don't know how,

01:21:31.020 --> 01:21:32.800
but it's really funny when you just put us in

01:21:32.800 --> 01:21:34.720
a room and just let us roast and react to things.

01:21:35.979 --> 01:21:40.699
And you do this one day a week? Yes. And so actually

01:21:40.699 --> 01:21:42.859
this day is also the same day I filmed Philanthropy,

01:21:42.859 --> 01:21:44.100
if you have a Philanthropy video that week as

01:21:44.100 --> 01:21:48.140
well. Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot, and there's

01:21:48.140 --> 01:21:50.880
no... Also, well, the thing, too, is, like, so

01:21:50.880 --> 01:21:53.020
these channels, like, this channel specifically

01:21:53.020 --> 01:21:55.319
doesn't cost a lot of money to run. So this is,

01:21:55.359 --> 01:21:57.359
like, you know, mostly just pure profit, which

01:21:57.359 --> 01:22:00.039
is what I ran into is, like, my main channel,

01:22:00.100 --> 01:22:01.520
because I kept taking the videos bigger and bigger

01:22:01.520 --> 01:22:03.539
and bigger, there did get a point where they

01:22:03.539 --> 01:22:05.100
weren't really profitable. Like, I was losing

01:22:05.100 --> 01:22:07.300
money every video. So I started this other channel

01:22:07.300 --> 01:22:09.439
so they would make money so I could lose money

01:22:09.439 --> 01:22:11.939
on my main channel, if that makes sense. Really?

01:22:12.100 --> 01:22:13.920
Yeah, so, like, the gaming channel, you know,

01:22:13.920 --> 01:22:16.810
like... So the stuff like the Squid Games, it's

01:22:16.810 --> 01:22:19.170
so cross -prohibitive. Well, that one, because

01:22:19.170 --> 01:22:20.869
it's getting so many views, might break even.

01:22:21.010 --> 01:22:22.770
But, yeah, other videos like buying that private

01:22:22.770 --> 01:22:24.430
island and giving it away and terraforming it,

01:22:24.529 --> 01:22:26.510
like, yeah, fuck no. You lose money on that.

01:22:26.529 --> 01:22:28.430
Yeah, a lot of videos. Like, we did a video where

01:22:28.430 --> 01:22:33.390
we, like, sold houses for a dollar, right? Usually

01:22:33.390 --> 01:22:35.210
it's like I think things are going to cost less

01:22:35.210 --> 01:22:37.369
than they do, but it ended up costing over a

01:22:37.369 --> 01:22:38.750
million dollars, and it probably only made like

01:22:38.750 --> 01:22:42.270
600 grand. So that was like a $400 ,000 L. I

01:22:42.270 --> 01:22:44.149
take L's like that all the time, but that's why

01:22:44.149 --> 01:22:46.670
I have these other things so I can afford to.

01:22:46.729 --> 01:22:48.970
So I don't really care if a main channel video

01:22:48.970 --> 01:22:51.409
makes money or not. It's just like in general,

01:22:51.550 --> 01:22:54.130
does everything at least semi -supplement it

01:22:54.130 --> 01:22:56.289
so I can, if that makes any sense. It makes a

01:22:56.289 --> 01:22:58.989
lot of sense. So you kind of have a safety net.

01:22:59.510 --> 01:23:03.789
of sort of almost like backup revenue. Yeah.

01:23:03.789 --> 01:23:04.890
Make sure that everything is. Essentially, if

01:23:04.890 --> 01:23:06.229
I didn't have these, the main channel videos,

01:23:06.350 --> 01:23:08.289
I just wouldn't have been able to keep making

01:23:08.289 --> 01:23:10.449
them bigger. And then, I don't know, I would

01:23:10.449 --> 01:23:13.289
just be sad. Then they'd have to be lamer, which

01:23:13.289 --> 01:23:14.710
is another reason why people don't do what I

01:23:14.710 --> 01:23:16.289
do because a lot of videos just aren't profitable.

01:23:16.470 --> 01:23:18.390
They don't make money. Well, I just don't think

01:23:18.390 --> 01:23:21.170
people would be as obsessed as you are. You've

01:23:21.170 --> 01:23:24.130
got a very unique vision with this stuff. When

01:23:24.130 --> 01:23:26.270
I'm talking to you and I recognize the scale

01:23:26.270 --> 01:23:31.090
of it all, it's massive. That's all I do. I understand.

01:23:31.369 --> 01:23:33.770
But I mean, you must have some sort of a social

01:23:33.770 --> 01:23:37.649
life too, right? Not really. I don't. That's

01:23:37.649 --> 01:23:40.270
the problem. But it's not a problem. I love it.

01:23:40.289 --> 01:23:41.689
And I wouldn't trade for anything. Well, there's

01:23:41.689 --> 01:23:43.210
not a lot of human beings that ever get to a

01:23:43.210 --> 01:23:46.010
position like you're in. It's a very rare place.

01:23:46.350 --> 01:23:48.289
Thank you. I mean, the question now is like,

01:23:48.390 --> 01:23:50.569
can we keep it going? Because like I said last

01:23:50.569 --> 01:23:52.470
year, we were the highest earning YouTube channel

01:23:52.470 --> 01:23:53.729
in the world and the most subscribed to YouTube

01:23:53.729 --> 01:23:55.390
channel in the world, which is great. And it's

01:23:55.390 --> 01:23:56.930
like, fuck yeah. And then you realize, well.

01:23:57.449 --> 01:23:59.569
If we're going to do better this year, that's

01:23:59.569 --> 01:24:01.930
going to be pretty hard because we got beat number

01:24:01.930 --> 01:24:05.350
one. So just keep going, though. Keep grinding.

01:24:05.529 --> 01:24:07.229
Well, it seems like you could do it. I mean,

01:24:07.250 --> 01:24:08.869
if anybody can do it, you could do it. Do you

01:24:08.869 --> 01:24:10.989
have like a grand vision? I sort of asked you

01:24:10.989 --> 01:24:13.569
this before, but like when you think of your

01:24:13.569 --> 01:24:16.390
future and you think like, do you have an idea

01:24:16.390 --> 01:24:18.729
in your head of where you would like all this

01:24:18.729 --> 01:24:22.100
to go to? Because it seems like. The world's

01:24:22.100 --> 01:24:24.880
your oyster. You could kind of keep going and

01:24:24.880 --> 01:24:27.979
do whatever you want. Do you have a vision? Yeah,

01:24:28.000 --> 01:24:30.300
I mean, I do in a way see it a little bit as

01:24:30.300 --> 01:24:32.739
like Elon's PayPal. Like, you know, maybe when

01:24:32.739 --> 01:24:35.100
I'm 30 and if I'm not doing YouTube anymore,

01:24:35.159 --> 01:24:37.479
I'd take the money and move on to the next business

01:24:37.479 --> 01:24:40.939
like Tesla, SpaceX and stuff like that. But I

01:24:40.939 --> 01:24:43.199
don't know. I mean, right now I've spent up to

01:24:43.199 --> 01:24:45.579
this point my entire life hyper obsessing over

01:24:45.579 --> 01:24:48.210
how to go viral. youtube youtube youtube youtube

01:24:48.210 --> 01:24:51.069
making videos how to go viral so it's like that's

01:24:51.069 --> 01:24:53.130
really it i just want to do this as long as i

01:24:53.130 --> 01:24:56.149
can and just keep growing it though the thing

01:24:56.149 --> 01:24:59.649
is like if it gets to a much larger place like

01:24:59.649 --> 01:25:03.470
you are at what is it 90 what million on your

01:25:03.470 --> 01:25:06.270
main channel 91 on the main what happens when

01:25:06.270 --> 01:25:09.369
you hit like 300 million what if it's like everyone

01:25:09.369 --> 01:25:11.770
in the country subscribes to you you just keep

01:25:11.770 --> 01:25:14.649
going i mean i i want to do youtube for at least

01:25:14.649 --> 01:25:16.779
another 10 years because I don't think YouTube's

01:25:16.779 --> 01:25:18.399
going to slow down. YouTube's still growing year

01:25:18.399 --> 01:25:19.819
over year. No, I don't think it's slowing down.

01:25:19.880 --> 01:25:21.880
Exactly. So like, why would I not want to be

01:25:21.880 --> 01:25:23.659
the biggest YouTuber on the platform? Like, why

01:25:23.659 --> 01:25:25.579
do I need to do anything else? Like, I just want

01:25:25.579 --> 01:25:28.180
to keep growing, be at the top. And I think the

01:25:28.180 --> 01:25:29.800
platform is just going to get bigger with time.

01:25:30.270 --> 01:25:32.869
But as you do more and more of these Squid Games

01:25:32.869 --> 01:25:35.229
type things, do you see yourself putting more

01:25:35.229 --> 01:25:37.149
and more time into production and more and more

01:25:37.149 --> 01:25:39.029
time to bigger it? Because it seems like you

01:25:39.029 --> 01:25:41.189
want to ramp things up. With each one, you want

01:25:41.189 --> 01:25:43.170
to make it grander than the one before. Yeah.

01:25:43.270 --> 01:25:45.189
And that's why I need the smartest people in

01:25:45.189 --> 01:25:48.829
the world around me. Because I'm filming so much,

01:25:48.850 --> 01:25:50.930
I don't have time to be in the weeds. Which I

01:25:50.930 --> 01:25:52.930
already have, like I told you before, some geniuses.

01:25:52.930 --> 01:25:54.770
But I need more. If you're out there and you

01:25:54.770 --> 01:25:57.930
know how to do production, hit me up. But, yeah,

01:25:57.989 --> 01:25:59.590
ideally you just build out the team so I'm not

01:25:59.590 --> 01:26:01.449
the one, like, having to micromanage and do it.

01:26:01.670 --> 01:26:03.630
Where do you think you would be if it wasn't

01:26:03.630 --> 01:26:08.819
for this? I don't know. I have, like, a problem.

01:26:08.939 --> 01:26:11.520
I'm, like, so obsessed. Like, I, like, devote

01:26:11.520 --> 01:26:14.000
my life to one thing, and that's just all I live

01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:15.800
for. That's not a problem, man. No, I know, but

01:26:15.800 --> 01:26:17.560
that's... That's an amazing gift. True, true,

01:26:17.619 --> 01:26:19.279
but that's where... I don't know what it is.

01:26:19.319 --> 01:26:21.380
I mean, I could have devoted, like, that, like,

01:26:21.380 --> 01:26:24.000
laser -like focus, or, like, cocaine -like addiction

01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:25.920
could have been on painting bowling balls or

01:26:25.920 --> 01:26:28.500
something fucking dumb. So I'm just grateful

01:26:28.500 --> 01:26:30.640
it was, like, at a young age, it was something

01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:32.720
like this that has infinite upside, and I can

01:26:32.720 --> 01:26:35.180
just obsess, and I can obsess forever, you know?

01:26:35.279 --> 01:26:37.220
Before YouTube, was there another thing that

01:26:37.220 --> 01:26:38.649
you... concentrated on with that kind of hyper

01:26:38.649 --> 01:26:42.039
focus? I mean, a little bit of baseball. I got

01:26:42.039 --> 01:26:44.760
Crohn's when I was 15, so I played baseball nonstop.

01:26:45.260 --> 01:26:46.960
And then when I got Crohn's, I lost like 50 pounds.

01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:49.840
I was like, fuck that. You got Crohn's? Crohn's

01:26:49.840 --> 01:26:52.060
disease. Right, but Crohn's is something that's

01:26:52.060 --> 01:26:54.239
a genetic disease, right? Yeah. So it just manifests

01:26:54.239 --> 01:26:56.619
itself. It started to emerge. You're not born

01:26:56.619 --> 01:26:59.600
with it. Are you not? Yeah, most people get it

01:26:59.600 --> 01:27:01.699
when they're around 15 to 20. I mean, I guess

01:27:01.699 --> 01:27:03.539
you're born with the genetics thing, but I guess

01:27:03.539 --> 01:27:05.859
the inflammation doesn't occur until that age.

01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:08.939
Yeah, and so I lost like 40 pounds because I

01:27:08.939 --> 01:27:10.859
was... go into the bathroom like 10 times a day.

01:27:11.020 --> 01:27:13.699
And so I was a little obsessed with baseball.

01:27:14.779 --> 01:27:16.520
I like literally was playing like two or three

01:27:16.520 --> 01:27:18.859
hours a day. There was a period like where I

01:27:18.859 --> 01:27:20.739
actually, I kind of like quit YouTube when I

01:27:20.739 --> 01:27:22.579
was like 13, 14, like so I could just really

01:27:22.579 --> 01:27:24.579
focus on baseball. But then once I got that,

01:27:24.640 --> 01:27:26.520
which was probably a blessing, I was like, fuck

01:27:26.520 --> 01:27:28.279
it, I don't care anymore. And I just went all

01:27:28.279 --> 01:27:31.180
in on YouTube. So this Crohn's, does this make

01:27:31.180 --> 01:27:33.859
you, do you have to seriously regulate your diet?

01:27:34.159 --> 01:27:39.420
Yes, very regulated diet. I have very... I run

01:27:39.420 --> 01:27:42.380
out of energy very easily. That doesn't make

01:27:42.380 --> 01:27:44.000
sense. How is that possible? You have so much

01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:46.300
energy. I don't. I'm probably one of the least

01:27:46.300 --> 01:27:47.920
energetic people you'll ever meet. But you do

01:27:47.920 --> 01:27:49.739
so much. How is it possible that you have no

01:27:49.739 --> 01:27:51.539
energy? I don't know because my immune system

01:27:51.539 --> 01:27:54.609
attacks itself, so it's very draining. And so,

01:27:54.670 --> 01:27:56.510
yeah, I get very tired easily. I take a lot of

01:27:56.510 --> 01:27:58.029
naps and stuff like that. I have a buddy of mine

01:27:58.029 --> 01:27:59.729
in Ohio that has it, and he can't eat bread.

01:28:00.310 --> 01:28:03.050
Yeah, I can't eat like a fuckload of stuff. So

01:28:03.050 --> 01:28:05.729
you can't have one of your own burgers? No, actually,

01:28:05.770 --> 01:28:08.170
that's fine. It doesn't flare me up. Even when

01:28:08.170 --> 01:28:09.810
I eat burgers, I usually take off the buns and

01:28:09.810 --> 01:28:12.010
just eat meat. I don't really like bread that

01:28:12.010 --> 01:28:15.659
much anyways. No, that's fine. And the chocolate

01:28:15.659 --> 01:28:17.619
bar actually is good on my stomach too, which

01:28:17.619 --> 01:28:19.779
is why I'm pretty happy with that as well. So

01:28:19.779 --> 01:28:22.100
what is it that really fucks with you? Weirdly

01:28:22.100 --> 01:28:23.579
enough, corn, for whatever the fucking reason.

01:28:23.699 --> 01:28:26.800
Corn. If I want diarrhea tomorrow, just give

01:28:26.800 --> 01:28:31.000
me some fucking corn. Really? Yeah. Corn, anything

01:28:31.000 --> 01:28:34.500
spicy, anything overly, overly processed. I'm

01:28:34.500 --> 01:28:37.800
trying to think. What exactly is Crohn's? What

01:28:37.800 --> 01:28:40.979
is the immune system doing? I'm going to be honest.

01:28:41.060 --> 01:28:42.720
I've never fully understood it. It's something

01:28:42.720 --> 01:28:45.319
about my intestines where like the lining of

01:28:45.319 --> 01:28:48.199
it, like the immune system attacks it. So my

01:28:48.199 --> 01:28:50.220
intestines are super inflamed. And so if it's

01:28:50.220 --> 01:28:52.560
not in remission, I basically just can't digest

01:28:52.560 --> 01:28:54.420
food because it's just like it's so inflamed.

01:28:54.439 --> 01:28:56.399
Food just passes through and you just like shit

01:28:56.399 --> 01:28:58.600
it out. Oh, wow. Yeah. So it's like brutal, which

01:28:58.600 --> 01:29:01.020
is why when I first got it, I lost like 40 pounds

01:29:01.020 --> 01:29:03.300
in like a really quick time span. It's often

01:29:03.300 --> 01:29:06.699
with ulcerative colitis too. Yeah. A friend of

01:29:06.699 --> 01:29:08.920
mine has it. Ulcerative colitis is a little bit

01:29:08.920 --> 01:29:10.350
more extreme version. of crones so thankfully

01:29:10.350 --> 01:29:12.289
i got a little bit of the dulled down version

01:29:12.289 --> 01:29:15.329
but uh yeah like sometimes i'll flare up and

01:29:15.329 --> 01:29:18.109
then i'm just like i'm dead i just i just lay

01:29:18.109 --> 01:29:19.449
in bed all day and i can't really do anything

01:29:20.170 --> 01:29:22.329
Is there any medication that you can take that

01:29:22.329 --> 01:29:24.529
improves it? Yeah. So I'm on what's called Remicade.

01:29:24.590 --> 01:29:26.630
And so every eight weeks they just do an IV with

01:29:26.630 --> 01:29:28.789
a huge bag, which essentially suppresses my immune

01:29:28.789 --> 01:29:31.310
system. So that's why I get sick very easily

01:29:31.310 --> 01:29:34.250
because the answer to my immune system attacking

01:29:34.250 --> 01:29:36.270
itself is just to fucking nuke my immune system.

01:29:36.369 --> 01:29:39.149
Oh, Jesus Christ. I know. So it's a little annoying.

01:29:39.210 --> 01:29:41.350
It's unfortunate. I'm stuck with it. What can

01:29:41.350 --> 01:29:45.939
you do? And there's no. It blows my mind that

01:29:45.939 --> 01:29:48.439
there's no cure because I think like you probably

01:29:48.439 --> 01:29:50.539
Google it. Millions of people in America, I'm

01:29:50.539 --> 01:29:53.199
pretty sure, have it. So it's like it's pretty

01:29:53.199 --> 01:29:55.060
fucked up. It's annoying. So I don't understand

01:29:55.060 --> 01:29:56.699
why there's not a better way to treat it. But

01:29:56.699 --> 01:30:00.899
are there any sort of dietary remedies that maybe

01:30:00.899 --> 01:30:03.899
people have tried? I'm sure if I just like dropped

01:30:03.899 --> 01:30:05.840
everything and just spent my life laser focused,

01:30:05.939 --> 01:30:07.680
I could probably figure out some way to like.

01:30:08.570 --> 01:30:11.649
780 ,000. 780 ,000 Americans currently have Crohn's.

01:30:11.689 --> 01:30:14.109
Yeah. Another 900 ,000 have ulcerative colitis.

01:30:14.270 --> 01:30:17.130
Wow. Yeah. I don't know. Honestly, I haven't

01:30:17.130 --> 01:30:18.529
really thought of it. It's just one of those

01:30:18.529 --> 01:30:19.930
things like I'm so used to it. It's just life.

01:30:20.050 --> 01:30:21.970
But it seems like you're such a smart guy that

01:30:21.970 --> 01:30:24.310
dedicates yourself to things and find solutions.

01:30:24.529 --> 01:30:26.729
Maybe this is something you could do. Yeah. Maybe

01:30:26.729 --> 01:30:28.850
after YouTube, I throw my life at that. Take

01:30:28.850 --> 01:30:31.989
the money. Have you tried an elimination diet?

01:30:32.600 --> 01:30:35.100
Yes, exactly. So I don't know why I'm drawing

01:30:35.100 --> 01:30:36.960
a blank. I mean, there's a lot of things that

01:30:36.960 --> 01:30:41.399
aggravate it. It's like chips, cookies, or things

01:30:41.399 --> 01:30:42.760
like that. Chips that have corn. Yeah, exactly.

01:30:42.920 --> 01:30:45.220
Probably an allergy maybe even to corn. Yeah,

01:30:45.239 --> 01:30:47.680
so I've done it. I know what to eat now where

01:30:47.680 --> 01:30:49.739
it's not like my diet isn't causing it, but for

01:30:49.739 --> 01:30:51.560
whatever reason, sometimes it just flares up.

01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:54.220
It's weird. Does it say anything, Jamie, about

01:30:54.220 --> 01:30:58.050
some sort of dietary? Solution for Crohn's disease.

01:30:58.329 --> 01:31:00.430
I've talked to my friend about this. He got it

01:31:00.430 --> 01:31:02.130
around the same age as you. His name is also

01:31:02.130 --> 01:31:07.109
Jimmy. Let's go. He, though, went the other way.

01:31:07.149 --> 01:31:10.329
He has had multiple inches of his colon removed.

01:31:11.010 --> 01:31:13.050
Does he have the bag on his side? He did for

01:31:13.050 --> 01:31:15.210
a while, but he's pretty healthy now. That's

01:31:15.210 --> 01:31:17.470
my worst fear, is if they remove it, you then

01:31:17.470 --> 01:31:19.949
have to get the bag, and then you shit in the

01:31:19.949 --> 01:31:22.930
bag. Yeah, I know an older guy who has one of

01:31:22.930 --> 01:31:25.090
those. That's my worst fear is to have that.

01:31:25.170 --> 01:31:27.529
That's fucking gross. It's gross, and it's scary.

01:31:27.949 --> 01:31:29.590
Yeah, but I know people who have gotten it, and

01:31:29.590 --> 01:31:31.409
they're just like, when they went from being

01:31:31.409 --> 01:31:33.649
tired and miserable and all that, and then they

01:31:33.649 --> 01:31:35.130
get that surgery, and they feel like a normal

01:31:35.130 --> 01:31:37.310
human. It completely changed their life. I mean,

01:31:37.369 --> 01:31:39.130
they shit in a bag, but at least now they're

01:31:39.130 --> 01:31:42.149
happy. Yeah, it's like six in one, half a dozen

01:31:42.149 --> 01:31:44.789
in the other. What's better? I'd rather have...

01:31:44.960 --> 01:31:48.819
shit in a bag and be happy. I know. I think about

01:31:48.819 --> 01:31:50.760
a lot because I could just have the part I have

01:31:50.760 --> 01:31:52.920
with Crohn's removed and then I'd be fine too.

01:31:53.680 --> 01:31:56.060
Yeah, but man, what if you did that and then

01:31:56.060 --> 01:31:57.899
down the road they come up with some sort of

01:31:57.899 --> 01:31:59.779
a solution? I know. Because I was wondering if

01:31:59.779 --> 01:32:02.579
like stem cells or something along those lines.

01:32:02.579 --> 01:32:04.119
I remember because I've talked to him a long

01:32:04.119 --> 01:32:06.880
time. I just looked it up. I've seen when CBD

01:32:06.880 --> 01:32:09.520
was getting big, there were some talks that it

01:32:09.520 --> 01:32:11.699
could help people, but I just checked and there

01:32:11.699 --> 01:32:13.119
was a study that said there wasn't anything.

01:32:14.090 --> 01:32:16.430
Conclusive on that. Just the CBD part. Yeah,

01:32:16.630 --> 01:32:21.149
anything that reduces inflammation. Yep. So they

01:32:21.149 --> 01:32:24.170
don't know what causes it or why a person gets

01:32:24.170 --> 01:32:29.069
it versus... I could speculate, but I don't think

01:32:29.069 --> 01:32:31.569
he knows. No, I mean, not that I know of. Does

01:32:31.569 --> 01:32:34.850
exercise help it? Does anything help it? I mean,

01:32:34.850 --> 01:32:37.029
your immune system attacks itself is all I know.

01:32:37.149 --> 01:32:39.550
Wow. Yeah. Nothing's ever really – it's like

01:32:39.550 --> 01:32:41.989
it just feels so random. It's weird. Because

01:32:41.989 --> 01:32:43.770
I know people who have had it and talked about

01:32:43.770 --> 01:32:46.729
it before. The literal only answer that they

01:32:46.729 --> 01:32:48.289
could have was just to get that part of their

01:32:48.289 --> 01:32:52.729
body cut out, which is just unfathomable. Yeah.

01:32:52.770 --> 01:32:56.189
But anyways, such is life. Yeah, my friend's

01:32:56.189 --> 01:32:59.930
mom died from that. Wow. Yeah, back in the day

01:32:59.930 --> 01:33:02.569
when they did just used to cut chunks of your

01:33:02.569 --> 01:33:06.630
body out and she eventually passed away at a

01:33:06.630 --> 01:33:10.430
young age. As a mom, she was 35. Oof. Yeah, it's

01:33:10.430 --> 01:33:13.149
horrible. This is their motto. No colon, still

01:33:13.149 --> 01:33:19.050
rolling. But anyways, yeah, it's life. I mean,

01:33:19.050 --> 01:33:21.670
I could have cancer. There could be much worse

01:33:21.670 --> 01:33:24.840
stuff. Well, you have a great attitude. When

01:33:24.840 --> 01:33:27.420
you look back at all the stuff that you've done

01:33:27.420 --> 01:33:29.899
and the fact that you've done all this while

01:33:29.899 --> 01:33:32.560
you're dealing with an autoimmune disease, that's

01:33:32.560 --> 01:33:34.319
a giant inspiration to other people that are

01:33:34.319 --> 01:33:36.720
struggling. Thank you. It really is. I mean,

01:33:36.739 --> 01:33:38.920
yeah, if you have an autoimmune disease, just

01:33:38.920 --> 01:33:41.800
fucking push through it. That's what I did, and

01:33:41.800 --> 01:33:44.199
it worked. Well, you have a very happy attitude.

01:33:44.520 --> 01:33:46.659
I mean, obviously you've been— wildly successful

01:33:46.659 --> 01:33:50.180
in your young life but you you have a happy attitude

01:33:50.180 --> 01:33:52.640
towards things and i think that that also is

01:33:52.640 --> 01:33:56.060
very inspirational to people yeah i mean i wish

01:33:56.060 --> 01:33:57.399
if i had thought about this i could probably

01:33:57.399 --> 01:33:59.420
have some like badass quote but i mean the gist

01:33:59.420 --> 01:34:03.229
is like you know what like If it's Crohn's, sitting

01:34:03.229 --> 01:34:06.170
there mourning over it all day, that doesn't

01:34:06.170 --> 01:34:08.649
do anything. If it's something that's out of

01:34:08.649 --> 01:34:11.310
your control, worrying about it, it quite literally

01:34:11.310 --> 01:34:16.189
is a waste of time. Well, you're very into time

01:34:16.189 --> 01:34:18.470
management, obviously. You kind of have to be

01:34:18.470 --> 01:34:19.729
because you have so many things on your plate.

01:34:20.069 --> 01:34:23.680
I mean, essentially, yeah. The more I film or

01:34:23.680 --> 01:34:26.000
work, the directly correlates the more money

01:34:26.000 --> 01:34:27.539
we bring in, so the bigger videos we can do.

01:34:27.619 --> 01:34:29.619
So, yeah, it's essentially just a formula where

01:34:29.619 --> 01:34:32.710
my time goes to optimally for videos. Do you

01:34:32.710 --> 01:34:34.229
have a lot of guys coming to you for advice?

01:34:34.710 --> 01:34:36.289
Yes. Like, hey, I want to be like Mr. Beast.

01:34:36.329 --> 01:34:37.550
You know, actually, here, can you pull up my

01:34:37.550 --> 01:34:38.909
Twitter? I have something cool I want to show

01:34:38.909 --> 01:34:41.149
them. I mentor YouTubers a lot. You'll probably

01:34:41.149 --> 01:34:43.409
find this cool. One of the people I've been mentoring

01:34:43.409 --> 01:34:46.909
recently, he was doing $24 ,000 a month, and

01:34:46.909 --> 01:34:49.789
then he recently had a $400 ,000 a month on YouTube.

01:34:50.050 --> 01:34:52.850
Yeah. Wow. Yeah, so I tweeted out the before

01:34:52.850 --> 01:34:55.800
and after of his revenue. And so, yeah, just

01:34:55.800 --> 01:34:58.060
click on that left image. So this was before

01:34:58.060 --> 01:35:00.500
I started mentoring him. He was doing 4 .6 million

01:35:00.500 --> 01:35:03.560
views a month, 24 grand. And then probably like

01:35:03.560 --> 01:35:05.960
seven, eight months into it, we got him up to

01:35:05.960 --> 01:35:08.539
45 million views, and he had a $400 ,000 a month.

01:35:08.979 --> 01:35:12.720
Wow. And what kind of advice are you giving someone

01:35:12.720 --> 01:35:14.760
like that that makes such an exponential change

01:35:14.760 --> 01:35:17.920
in the amount of interactions that you get? The

01:35:17.920 --> 01:35:20.600
biggest thing is... It's much easier, as weird

01:35:20.600 --> 01:35:22.319
as this sounds, it's much easier to get 5 million

01:35:22.319 --> 01:35:25.760
views on one video than 100 ,000 views on 50

01:35:25.760 --> 01:35:28.720
videos. Does that make sense a little bit? A

01:35:28.720 --> 01:35:33.579
lot of people, you could upload one great video

01:35:33.579 --> 01:35:35.840
a year and get more views than if you uploaded

01:35:35.840 --> 01:35:40.640
100 mediocre videos. It's very exponential. Well,

01:35:40.680 --> 01:35:43.500
now I'm going to dial back to go to do on YouTube.

01:35:43.560 --> 01:35:44.819
You just need people to click your videos and

01:35:44.819 --> 01:35:46.319
watch them. That's literally all YouTube wants.

01:35:46.460 --> 01:35:48.979
And so if you get people to click your video

01:35:48.979 --> 01:35:50.800
10 percent more and watch a video 10 percent

01:35:50.800 --> 01:35:52.760
longer than mine, you don't get 10 percent more

01:35:52.760 --> 01:35:55.020
views. You get like four times the views. Right.

01:35:55.119 --> 01:35:57.520
So you have to think like an exponential. Right.

01:35:57.560 --> 01:35:59.420
Like a 10 percent better video is four times

01:35:59.420 --> 01:36:01.000
the views, not 10 percent more views. Right.

01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:02.859
And so like once you understand that and you

01:36:02.859 --> 01:36:04.899
like funnel your energy better, it like it makes

01:36:04.899 --> 01:36:06.800
a big difference. So it's usually like just like.

01:36:07.230 --> 01:36:09.149
don't make your video shit put in effort you

01:36:09.149 --> 01:36:11.350
know like put in way more effort like really

01:36:11.350 --> 01:36:13.590
hyper obsessed over these videos like triple

01:36:13.590 --> 01:36:15.010
the amount of time you're putting in that into

01:36:15.010 --> 01:36:17.010
that video because you're not going to get triple

01:36:17.010 --> 01:36:18.609
the views you're going to get 10x the views and

01:36:18.609 --> 01:36:21.750
like because like YouTube's trying to serve people

01:36:21.750 --> 01:36:23.489
the best content possible. They don't want to

01:36:23.489 --> 01:36:24.750
serve you 100 lame videos. They just want to

01:36:24.750 --> 01:36:26.729
serve you one good one. So it makes sense logically.

01:36:27.109 --> 01:36:29.890
Your homepage is curated the best videos possible.

01:36:31.250 --> 01:36:33.510
And so it's really just like making these videos

01:36:33.510 --> 01:36:35.069
really, really good, helping them build out a

01:36:35.069 --> 01:36:38.039
little bit of team like an editor. If you're

01:36:38.039 --> 01:36:40.159
doing five jobs and you can only put 20 % of

01:36:40.159 --> 01:36:41.779
your time to each, well, if you hire an editor,

01:36:41.880 --> 01:36:43.880
he can put 100 % of his time into that. So even

01:36:43.880 --> 01:36:46.039
if he's like 20 % worse than you, he's still

01:36:46.039 --> 01:36:47.460
going to do a way better job just because that's

01:36:47.460 --> 01:36:48.939
where all his time is going and he's able to

01:36:48.939 --> 01:36:51.439
obsess over it. Like you can't spend 10 hours

01:36:51.439 --> 01:36:53.699
a day editing, but he can. Have you always had

01:36:53.699 --> 01:36:55.920
this logical, analytical approach to things like

01:36:55.920 --> 01:36:57.960
this? Yeah. Always. I love this stuff. Yeah,

01:36:58.020 --> 01:36:59.880
this is what I live for. So it's like kind of

01:36:59.880 --> 01:37:01.300
going through and doing that for everything.

01:37:02.180 --> 01:37:04.039
And usually, like in his case, he's uploading

01:37:04.039 --> 01:37:06.960
less even though he went – He's making over 10

01:37:06.960 --> 01:37:09.060
times more. It's with less videos, ironically.

01:37:09.600 --> 01:37:11.819
And the videos are just better. And the fans

01:37:11.819 --> 01:37:13.560
are happier. Everything about it is just better.

01:37:13.760 --> 01:37:16.600
So you mentored this guy. Did you know him previously?

01:37:16.939 --> 01:37:19.699
I did. I knew him a little bit. He's always had

01:37:19.699 --> 01:37:22.239
great thumbnails, but he wasn't the best at making

01:37:22.239 --> 01:37:24.560
good videos. Those are the easiest people to

01:37:24.560 --> 01:37:26.399
mentor. They can get people to click, but they

01:37:26.399 --> 01:37:29.180
can't get people to stick around. I've obsessed

01:37:29.180 --> 01:37:31.060
over how to make good videos, so now I just teach

01:37:31.060 --> 01:37:32.600
them how to make a video good, and then boom,

01:37:32.720 --> 01:37:34.520
the channel just goes skyrocket. But how do you

01:37:34.520 --> 01:37:36.380
have time to mentor people with all the things

01:37:36.380 --> 01:37:38.779
on your plate? I find it fun. For me, it's kind

01:37:38.779 --> 01:37:40.680
of therapeutic to go on a walk, call someone,

01:37:40.779 --> 01:37:42.979
and then just roast their channel. Is that what

01:37:42.979 --> 01:37:45.359
you do? You roast their channel? Not meanly,

01:37:45.380 --> 01:37:47.140
but it's just like, yeah. Just honestly. Yeah,

01:37:47.180 --> 01:37:48.800
I'm like, I can tell you're a little lazy here.

01:37:48.880 --> 01:37:50.060
You could have put a little bit more effort.

01:37:50.119 --> 01:37:53.720
The hook was a little weak. Why didn't you do

01:37:53.720 --> 01:37:56.619
this or the payoff or whatever? And you don't

01:37:56.619 --> 01:37:59.619
ask anything of them? Him? No, I don't own any

01:37:59.619 --> 01:38:01.739
of his channel. I just did it for fun. That's

01:38:01.739 --> 01:38:03.960
a wild thing to do, man. That's so cool that

01:38:03.960 --> 01:38:05.760
you're doing that. Yeah. He's going to kill it.

01:38:06.460 --> 01:38:10.100
Who is this guy? You want to say it? Yeah, exactly,

01:38:10.239 --> 01:38:11.560
because some people know who he is, and then

01:38:11.560 --> 01:38:12.659
they're going to be like, oh, you're really successful

01:38:12.659 --> 01:38:14.500
because of Mr. Beast, which I don't like. Oh,

01:38:14.500 --> 01:38:16.520
right. Well, look at you. Good for you, man.

01:38:17.060 --> 01:38:20.800
So you just look at that as an exercise. Yeah,

01:38:20.819 --> 01:38:23.640
it's fun. I do that for a lot of people. It's

01:38:23.640 --> 01:38:26.239
just, I don't know. How many is a lot? Probably,

01:38:26.260 --> 01:38:28.279
like, six or seven. It's always rotating. It's

01:38:28.279 --> 01:38:31.619
also, like, me playing evil mad scientist. Like,

01:38:31.680 --> 01:38:33.579
I tell them things, and then I kind of see how

01:38:33.579 --> 01:38:35.420
the theories work on their channel and, like,

01:38:35.579 --> 01:38:38.489
reconfirm what I know, and it's like, oh. Yeah,

01:38:38.510 --> 01:38:40.850
it is true. His stats went up 10 % and his views

01:38:40.850 --> 01:38:42.989
5x or like things like that. So I also get a

01:38:42.989 --> 01:38:44.869
weird enjoyment of like being able to – because

01:38:44.869 --> 01:38:46.449
it's nice because I don't have to do it. Like

01:38:46.449 --> 01:38:48.409
I can say, oh, do this, this, and this, and then

01:38:48.409 --> 01:38:50.069
just hang up. I don't have to go film the fucking

01:38:50.069 --> 01:38:52.109
video. And I just talk to them next week and

01:38:52.109 --> 01:38:53.909
I can just look at the numbers and be like, okay,

01:38:54.029 --> 01:38:55.689
this worked, this worked, and kind of like see

01:38:55.689 --> 01:38:58.109
it, which I really enjoy getting to do that.

01:38:59.430 --> 01:39:02.399
That's just so selfless of you because – Well,

01:39:02.439 --> 01:39:04.399
I'm getting data, and I'm learning, and it's

01:39:04.399 --> 01:39:06.359
helping me better understand what works. But,

01:39:06.420 --> 01:39:08.859
yeah, I guess theoretically I could bully these

01:39:08.859 --> 01:39:10.960
people into giving me half their channel if I

01:39:10.960 --> 01:39:13.020
wanted to. No, no, I'm not saying that. I mean,

01:39:13.020 --> 01:39:14.880
I would never expect that you would do that.

01:39:14.939 --> 01:39:16.840
But the fact that you're willing to spend the

01:39:16.840 --> 01:39:20.600
time and give them what you've learned, that's

01:39:20.600 --> 01:39:22.819
really cool. I've done podcasts where I've literally

01:39:22.819 --> 01:39:25.560
laid out exactly how to go viral, every little

01:39:25.560 --> 01:39:27.579
thing I know, and they're just sitting out there.

01:39:27.640 --> 01:39:29.220
And it's funny because people will listen to

01:39:29.220 --> 01:39:31.239
them and then just explode on YouTube and make

01:39:31.239 --> 01:39:33.279
tons of – of money. And it's just kind of funny

01:39:33.279 --> 01:39:34.739
because it's literally just out there. And some

01:39:34.739 --> 01:39:36.600
people still pay hundreds of dollars for a YouTube

01:39:36.600 --> 01:39:39.020
course or anything. Who teaches YouTube courses?

01:39:39.680 --> 01:39:41.659
There's ones all over the place. Are there really?

01:39:41.800 --> 01:39:43.140
Yeah, millions of people are trying to be YouTubers.

01:39:43.800 --> 01:39:46.819
So the YouTube courses, are they taught by successful

01:39:46.819 --> 01:39:49.979
YouTubers? I mean, you just Google it and we

01:39:49.979 --> 01:39:51.720
pick them. I mean, there are tons of YouTube

01:39:51.720 --> 01:39:54.180
gurus. I mean, one I know is Daryl Eves, who

01:39:54.180 --> 01:39:57.260
he... I don't know how public he is with his

01:39:57.260 --> 01:39:59.460
stats. He's very intelligent. He knows what he's

01:39:59.460 --> 01:40:02.260
doing. So his would be legit. But also, I don't

01:40:02.260 --> 01:40:03.659
want to trash people. I don't know. There are

01:40:03.659 --> 01:40:05.579
other ones. Yeah, I understand what you're saying.

01:40:06.800 --> 01:40:09.159
Like you just get a satisfaction out of watching

01:40:09.159 --> 01:40:11.699
people improve and grow and knowing that you

01:40:11.699 --> 01:40:14.939
do really have a very comprehensive understanding

01:40:14.939 --> 01:40:17.380
of how this business works. Yeah, exactly. And

01:40:17.380 --> 01:40:19.960
I also, I'm just so fucking obsessed with this

01:40:19.960 --> 01:40:21.920
shit. I can't stop talking about it. Like in

01:40:21.920 --> 01:40:24.180
an ideal world, I probably wouldn't tell everyone

01:40:24.180 --> 01:40:26.279
every fucking thing I know about going viral

01:40:26.279 --> 01:40:28.439
all the time. But it's just like, that's me.

01:40:28.560 --> 01:40:30.319
That's literally all I've ever done. It's like

01:40:30.319 --> 01:40:32.279
if you did the same thing every day for 10 years,

01:40:32.359 --> 01:40:33.920
like how do you talk about anything else, you

01:40:33.920 --> 01:40:35.979
know? But it's just amazing that it's still an

01:40:35.979 --> 01:40:38.010
obsession. of yours. Even though you're number

01:40:38.010 --> 01:40:41.250
one, even though you just keep being more and

01:40:41.250 --> 01:40:43.949
more wildly successful, it seems like, if I'm

01:40:43.949 --> 01:40:46.289
guessing, you're more obsessed now than ever.

01:40:46.449 --> 01:40:47.710
Yeah, if you took it away from me, I don't know

01:40:47.710 --> 01:40:50.289
what I would do. I love YouTube more than anything.

01:40:50.829 --> 01:40:54.069
Technically, you get the unlimited upside money

01:40:54.069 --> 01:40:56.630
-wise, influence -wise, power -wise, whatever,

01:40:56.770 --> 01:40:59.029
whatever sick thing you're chasing. With YouTube,

01:40:59.090 --> 01:41:02.409
you can get it all. I can't think of a more fulfilling

01:41:02.409 --> 01:41:04.250
job, and I'm completely in control, and I can

01:41:04.250 --> 01:41:07.619
do whatever the fuck I want. Those are all positives

01:41:07.619 --> 01:41:11.199
for sure. Yeah. But it's so unusual for someone

01:41:11.199 --> 01:41:14.060
to find a thing. For a lot of people, people

01:41:14.060 --> 01:41:16.899
that I know and even people deep into their 30s,

01:41:16.920 --> 01:41:19.220
they don't know what they want to do. They don't

01:41:19.220 --> 01:41:22.460
have a thing. And for whatever reason, they don't

01:41:22.460 --> 01:41:25.960
connect to a thing that gets their juices flowing,

01:41:26.100 --> 01:41:27.859
that gets their engine running. It's the saddest

01:41:27.859 --> 01:41:29.300
thing in life. It's the saddest thing in life.

01:41:29.560 --> 01:41:31.939
Yeah. Because if you can find a thing that's

01:41:31.939 --> 01:41:34.220
an obsession that you can make your occupation.

01:41:34.739 --> 01:41:36.600
I don't know who said that once. Steve Jobs.

01:41:36.939 --> 01:41:40.180
What did he say? Isn't it if you can find what

01:41:40.180 --> 01:41:41.899
you love, there's no greater thing or something

01:41:41.899 --> 01:41:43.579
like that? It's like you'll never work a day

01:41:43.579 --> 01:41:45.100
in your life. I think it's an older quote than

01:41:45.100 --> 01:41:46.460
that. Search Steve Jobs if you find what you

01:41:46.460 --> 01:41:49.260
love just in the background. That really is one

01:41:49.260 --> 01:41:51.939
of the keys to a happy existence because I have

01:41:51.939 --> 01:41:54.460
so many people that I know that don't like what

01:41:54.460 --> 01:41:57.180
they do. So many people that I know. And they

01:41:57.180 --> 01:41:59.520
do it and maybe some of them are really successful

01:41:59.520 --> 01:42:03.470
at it. They don't like it. Yeah, the way you

01:42:03.470 --> 01:42:05.829
get that exponential growth is to obsess over

01:42:05.829 --> 01:42:08.489
things for decades, not years. And so since they

01:42:08.489 --> 01:42:10.449
don't truly love what they do, they never get

01:42:10.449 --> 01:42:14.149
that crazy, crazy success. So for you, when you

01:42:14.149 --> 01:42:16.949
release a thing like the Squid Games video, you

01:42:16.949 --> 01:42:19.470
just get a wild rush of excitement? Oh, gosh.

01:42:19.470 --> 01:42:21.569
Yeah, especially that video. You're on like fucking

01:42:21.569 --> 01:42:24.270
cloud nine for usually about a day. You're just

01:42:24.270 --> 01:42:28.180
like. punching the air. I can't sleep. I'm excited.

01:42:28.600 --> 01:42:30.600
Just because that was so big. A normal video,

01:42:30.680 --> 01:42:32.180
not as much. I'm so numb to it. I've done it

01:42:32.180 --> 01:42:34.840
a thousand times. Thousands of times now. But

01:42:34.840 --> 01:42:36.859
yeah, that video, I'm calling everyone. I'm like,

01:42:36.920 --> 01:42:38.060
what'd you think? Because that was our first

01:42:38.060 --> 01:42:40.659
time ever using CG in a video too. So I was just

01:42:40.659 --> 01:42:42.359
like, did you think this was cringe? What'd you

01:42:42.359 --> 01:42:44.260
think? And most people were stroking me off and

01:42:44.260 --> 01:42:47.680
telling me it was good. So that felt great. Yeah,

01:42:47.819 --> 01:42:50.779
that was good. Probably one of the few actual

01:42:50.779 --> 01:42:53.619
days where I was genuinely happy. Now, are you

01:42:53.619 --> 01:42:57.430
happy? Because what makes you more happy, like

01:42:57.430 --> 01:43:00.930
numbers, the grand scale of things, just seeing

01:43:00.930 --> 01:43:03.229
your vision come to fruition? Yeah, the vision,

01:43:03.310 --> 01:43:05.850
seeing people recognize the work we put in. Because

01:43:05.850 --> 01:43:08.329
some videos we put a fuckload of work in. Well,

01:43:08.329 --> 01:43:10.310
that one clearly. Yeah, exactly. So that one

01:43:10.310 --> 01:43:12.289
they see. But other times, you know, sometimes

01:43:12.289 --> 01:43:14.689
I also I have a lot of really critical people

01:43:14.689 --> 01:43:16.090
around me, which I want. I don't want yes men

01:43:16.090 --> 01:43:17.649
that just tell me everything's good. Like sometimes

01:43:17.649 --> 01:43:19.470
I'll pour my heart and soul in a video and then

01:43:19.470 --> 01:43:20.770
I'll get a call right after I upload and someone

01:43:20.770 --> 01:43:24.579
just like. One of my friends, it was like a bounty

01:43:24.579 --> 01:43:26.579
hunter video. I thought it was one of our best

01:43:26.579 --> 01:43:28.399
videos. And he's just like, honestly, I think

01:43:28.399 --> 01:43:29.739
this video is a little lazy. And he's like, here's

01:43:29.739 --> 01:43:30.920
10 things you could have done better. And I agreed

01:43:30.920 --> 01:43:34.220
with four of them. But I remember that made my

01:43:34.220 --> 01:43:36.100
heart sink. I was like, fuck this guy. Fuck him.

01:43:36.180 --> 01:43:38.960
And I was like, no, no. This is what you want.

01:43:39.039 --> 01:43:40.560
You want honest feedback. And I was like, this

01:43:40.560 --> 01:43:42.319
is good. You really do want honest feedback.

01:43:42.340 --> 01:43:44.460
Exactly. And when it hurts, it's probably better.

01:43:44.520 --> 01:43:46.479
Exactly. So you've got to check yourself and

01:43:46.479 --> 01:43:49.100
realize, yeah, this makes you better. So I have

01:43:49.100 --> 01:43:50.960
a lot of people like that. And Squid Game was

01:43:50.960 --> 01:43:52.430
one of those. videos where like none of them

01:43:52.430 --> 01:43:54.109
were like saying negative they were saying positive

01:43:54.109 --> 01:43:56.470
and we had that to me was what felt the best

01:43:56.470 --> 01:43:58.149
because these are like the most critical motherfuckers

01:43:58.149 --> 01:44:00.329
ever and they're just like this is good and they

01:44:00.329 --> 01:44:02.270
didn't say anything bad i saw the bounty hunter

01:44:02.270 --> 01:44:04.050
video that was one of the first ones my daughter

01:44:04.050 --> 01:44:06.729
introduced me to so what what about the bounty

01:44:06.729 --> 01:44:08.250
hunter video do you think could have been better

01:44:08.250 --> 01:44:10.750
uh which he said which i agree that the beginning

01:44:10.750 --> 01:44:13.670
felt a little fake um when i like threw the knife

01:44:13.670 --> 01:44:15.689
and they're tied up the rope it wasn't as visible

01:44:15.689 --> 01:44:18.449
we were on an island for that i don't know why

01:44:18.449 --> 01:44:20.409
everything's on fucking islands but we didn't

01:44:20.409 --> 01:44:21.920
have of like the best like realistic looking

01:44:21.920 --> 01:44:24.239
rope so it looked a little kiddy and then uh

01:44:24.239 --> 01:44:25.880
so i i agree with that we could have made it

01:44:25.880 --> 01:44:28.100
look a little more real and then he had like

01:44:28.100 --> 01:44:29.920
certain parts were a little stretched out could

01:44:29.920 --> 01:44:32.380
have been a little quicker um and then also he

01:44:32.380 --> 01:44:34.340
was like which i this is something i suck at

01:44:34.340 --> 01:44:35.859
because like with youtube you're trying to hook

01:44:35.859 --> 01:44:37.840
people and keep them engaged especially when

01:44:37.840 --> 01:44:39.500
you're in the tens of millions of views but part

01:44:39.500 --> 01:44:40.960
of the problem of moving so quick is sometimes

01:44:40.960 --> 01:44:43.140
you don't get as much depth than the person um

01:44:43.140 --> 01:44:45.380
because like depth can be portrayed as boring

01:44:45.380 --> 01:44:47.300
so it's like it's a constant balancing act of

01:44:47.300 --> 01:44:50.039
like depth but also keep moving quickly And so

01:44:50.039 --> 01:44:51.260
he was like, you know, there wasn't much depth

01:44:51.260 --> 01:44:52.340
with the bounty hunter. I don't really know.

01:44:52.439 --> 01:44:54.199
Like he's like, I don't even know his name. And

01:44:54.199 --> 01:44:56.760
I agree. It's like, but it's hard. And I do a

01:44:56.760 --> 01:44:58.399
world, but again, it's not scripted, but an ideal

01:44:58.399 --> 01:45:01.140
world while he's doing action. Cause action's

01:45:01.140 --> 01:45:03.479
interesting. He gives death. Like if you're just

01:45:03.479 --> 01:45:04.979
driving and you're telling the life story, that's

01:45:04.979 --> 01:45:06.760
fucking boring. But if you're running after me

01:45:06.760 --> 01:45:08.359
and somehow, I don't know if this makes sense.

01:45:08.380 --> 01:45:10.020
Maybe life story is not the right thing, but,

01:45:10.060 --> 01:45:12.020
and you tell it that while action's gone, now

01:45:12.020 --> 01:45:13.619
it's interesting and I can kind of include it.

01:45:13.899 --> 01:45:15.760
Does that make sense? It does make sense. So

01:45:15.760 --> 01:45:18.229
you're. So that's really interesting because

01:45:18.229 --> 01:45:20.430
what you were trying to do is you're trying to

01:45:20.430 --> 01:45:22.909
just, you had an accomplishment. This is, you're

01:45:22.909 --> 01:45:24.229
trying to get the bounty hunter to chase you

01:45:24.229 --> 01:45:27.390
guys and all that jazz, but you're even post.

01:45:28.350 --> 01:45:31.149
Post -production or post -publication, you're

01:45:31.149 --> 01:45:33.869
still looking at ways you could have added more

01:45:33.869 --> 01:45:36.010
entertainment to it. Of course. Hooked people

01:45:36.010 --> 01:45:38.989
deeper. Made it more complete. Well, I mean,

01:45:39.010 --> 01:45:41.550
we're not looking at also how we could. Because

01:45:41.550 --> 01:45:44.770
that's not scripted. That is just a bounty hunter.

01:45:45.029 --> 01:45:46.930
We didn't tell him what to say. So also we're

01:45:46.930 --> 01:45:48.890
trying to make a story out of him chasing me.

01:45:48.970 --> 01:45:51.989
And those videos are the most fucking stressful

01:45:51.989 --> 01:45:54.050
videos on the planet. Because we're setting that

01:45:54.050 --> 01:45:56.649
stuff up for forever. And at any point, if he

01:45:56.649 --> 01:45:58.279
catches me, the video is over. And everything

01:45:58.279 --> 01:46:01.000
else past that point was just for nothing. How

01:46:01.000 --> 01:46:03.640
long did it take for him to catch you? That one

01:46:03.640 --> 01:46:06.710
was probably like 10 hours, 11 hours. Yeah, but

01:46:06.710 --> 01:46:08.970
it's like there's no room for error, right? You

01:46:08.970 --> 01:46:11.829
fuck up at any point. Because I can't just be

01:46:11.829 --> 01:46:13.590
super far away, then there's no tension and it's

01:46:13.590 --> 01:46:15.970
a boring video. I have to be close. There has

01:46:15.970 --> 01:46:19.390
to be a possibility at all time that he could

01:46:19.390 --> 01:46:21.609
catch me or it's a boring video. And so that

01:46:21.609 --> 01:46:23.850
means like at any point, like the video could

01:46:23.850 --> 01:46:26.250
fuck up and then we just fucking everything's

01:46:26.250 --> 01:46:27.810
to shit, all that work, all that effort is just

01:46:27.810 --> 01:46:29.750
out the fucking window. He catches me. I give

01:46:29.750 --> 01:46:31.229
him 100 grand, the video's over. It's not fake.

01:46:31.430 --> 01:46:33.109
What would you do with that? Would you just try

01:46:33.109 --> 01:46:35.380
again and have another bounty hunter? Yeah. probably

01:46:35.380 --> 01:46:38.100
I just eat the hundred grand you know but like

01:46:38.100 --> 01:46:40.000
renting all this stuff I mean you would probably

01:46:40.000 --> 01:46:42.140
like a quarter million dollar L because just

01:46:42.140 --> 01:46:44.079
everything's so expensive right and then we'd

01:46:44.079 --> 01:46:45.840
probably just do it again next week yeah with

01:46:45.840 --> 01:46:48.260
a different one um how do you pick a bounty hunter

01:46:49.590 --> 01:46:51.609
Casting person. I know that's where a lot of

01:46:51.609 --> 01:46:53.989
them weren't the most entertaining. And it's

01:46:53.989 --> 01:46:55.670
not like they're like hitmen. They're like bounty

01:46:55.670 --> 01:46:57.149
hunters that would like, you know, people who

01:46:57.149 --> 01:46:59.210
bail on bail and they go bounty hunt and stuff

01:46:59.210 --> 01:47:02.430
like that. I know they went through quite a few

01:47:02.430 --> 01:47:04.670
to like find one that actually had a little bit

01:47:04.670 --> 01:47:07.489
of a personality. Because, you know, I don't

01:47:07.489 --> 01:47:10.529
want someone like super hardcore serious. So

01:47:10.529 --> 01:47:13.970
over the years, you've kind of perfected your

01:47:13.970 --> 01:47:17.649
method of creating these tasks in these games

01:47:17.649 --> 01:47:20.649
that you play. They're all different, though.

01:47:20.710 --> 01:47:23.250
Yeah. That's the thing. That video is completely

01:47:23.250 --> 01:47:25.090
different than the video where we put 50 people

01:47:25.090 --> 01:47:26.710
in a circle, which is different than where people

01:47:26.710 --> 01:47:29.149
competed for an island. Right, which is why a

01:47:29.149 --> 01:47:30.689
production company would have a problem with

01:47:30.689 --> 01:47:32.489
it because it's not a formula that you could

01:47:32.489 --> 01:47:34.649
just recreate. Exactly. That's why I'm still

01:47:34.649 --> 01:47:36.609
not consistently uploading because then you have

01:47:36.609 --> 01:47:39.090
shit like the Antarctica thing happened or this

01:47:39.090 --> 01:47:41.949
thing happened. You just don't know. How often

01:47:41.949 --> 01:47:44.229
do you upload to the main channel? Right now,

01:47:44.310 --> 01:47:46.250
probably around twice a month. Well, actually

01:47:46.250 --> 01:47:48.090
right now once because Antarctica fell through.

01:47:48.550 --> 01:47:51.409
But ideally, we're going to get back up to starting

01:47:51.409 --> 01:47:53.109
this month twice. And then as we build out the

01:47:53.109 --> 01:47:54.250
other teams, hopefully by the end of the year,

01:47:54.310 --> 01:47:56.029
we're doing every single week. That's what I

01:47:56.029 --> 01:47:57.789
want in an ideal world every week. One a week?

01:47:57.970 --> 01:48:00.050
Yeah, of course. Well, actually, in an optimal

01:48:00.050 --> 01:48:02.250
world, speaking purely analytically, if I'm putting

01:48:02.250 --> 01:48:04.210
that brain on, I would be uploading twice a week.

01:48:04.310 --> 01:48:05.989
I would upload every Thursday and Saturday. That's

01:48:05.989 --> 01:48:07.770
what would be optimal, which is where I inevitably

01:48:07.770 --> 01:48:11.380
do want to get to. Then I'm spending like ungodly

01:48:11.380 --> 01:48:13.020
amounts of money, ungodly amounts of people.

01:48:13.100 --> 01:48:14.680
I mean that's – I'm going to also be filming

01:48:14.680 --> 01:48:16.420
probably like 90 percent of my waking hours.

01:48:16.800 --> 01:48:20.000
It would be like crazy – or working hours, which

01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:21.439
is what I eventually want to ramp up to. Because

01:48:21.439 --> 01:48:24.199
like I said, I don't spend most of my time filming.

01:48:24.260 --> 01:48:25.819
I spend most of my time working on videos. But

01:48:25.819 --> 01:48:27.779
in an ideal world, I spend most of my working

01:48:27.779 --> 01:48:29.239
hours filming because that's the only thing in

01:48:29.239 --> 01:48:31.220
the world I can do and no one else can. Right.

01:48:31.300 --> 01:48:35.279
Do you anticipate – How hard would it be to hand

01:48:35.279 --> 01:48:37.060
over the reins, the creative reins, to other

01:48:37.060 --> 01:48:39.520
people which would allow you to film? I'm always

01:48:39.520 --> 01:48:41.640
going to have to have the final say and be pitched.

01:48:41.739 --> 01:48:45.140
But you can always narrow it down where the pitching

01:48:45.140 --> 01:48:47.720
takes less and less. But I'm never – I'm always

01:48:47.720 --> 01:48:50.880
– I have a guy named Tyler who fucking crushes

01:48:50.880 --> 01:48:52.399
it, and I'd say out of anyone in the world, he

01:48:52.399 --> 01:48:54.060
understands how to write content better than

01:48:54.060 --> 01:48:56.119
anyone. Any YouTuber could hire him, and he would

01:48:56.119 --> 01:48:57.939
just instantly probably triple their attention.

01:48:58.100 --> 01:49:00.979
It's crazy. He's really good. But still, I'm

01:49:00.979 --> 01:49:03.039
always going to have to hear it before we film

01:49:03.039 --> 01:49:04.880
it and stuff like that, just to put my little

01:49:04.880 --> 01:49:07.520
spin on it. Now, this Squid Games thing was the

01:49:07.520 --> 01:49:10.619
first time you used CG. Do you anticipate using

01:49:10.619 --> 01:49:13.239
that in the future? I do. Because then you could

01:49:13.239 --> 01:49:15.800
really get crazy as the technology evolves too,

01:49:15.880 --> 01:49:17.760
right? Yeah, but we can't be cringe with it.

01:49:17.800 --> 01:49:20.420
When I use CG, it's not like I'm trying to hide

01:49:20.420 --> 01:49:22.720
that it's CG. Right. Because we're still like,

01:49:22.819 --> 01:49:24.560
at the end of the day, we are a YouTube channel,

01:49:24.640 --> 01:49:26.520
and it's my channel, and so I don't want it to

01:49:26.520 --> 01:49:30.099
feel like Hollywood. You know what I mean? But,

01:49:30.099 --> 01:49:33.619
yeah, I see it as a way to enhance that. There's

01:49:33.619 --> 01:49:34.600
never going to be a world where I'm just filming

01:49:34.600 --> 01:49:36.560
in front of a green screen, but if I have something

01:49:36.560 --> 01:49:38.920
cool and I just want to extend it, that's kind

01:49:38.920 --> 01:49:40.880
of where I see CG useful, if that makes any sense.

01:49:41.119 --> 01:49:44.640
Yes. Do you upload to Facebook? Yes. What are

01:49:44.640 --> 01:49:47.680
your thoughts on meta? I'm going to be honest.

01:49:47.760 --> 01:49:50.340
I have no idea about anything meta. Really? Yeah.

01:49:51.840 --> 01:49:53.720
Literally, you can probably tell by talking to

01:49:53.720 --> 01:49:55.819
me. I'm like 95 % laser focused on YouTube. I

01:49:55.819 --> 01:49:57.840
understand. Yeah. So like Facebook is usually

01:49:57.840 --> 01:50:00.199
just our videos just shortened a little bit because

01:50:00.199 --> 01:50:01.239
their attention span is a little bit shorter

01:50:01.239 --> 01:50:03.079
and we just make them vertical and put them over

01:50:03.079 --> 01:50:08.439
there. I'm just fascinated by where augmented

01:50:08.439 --> 01:50:11.380
and virtual reality go and where it's going to

01:50:11.380 --> 01:50:14.539
take us in terms of, you know, most people. It's

01:50:14.539 --> 01:50:17.319
a big commitment to put the goggles on and to

01:50:17.319 --> 01:50:19.340
hold the controllers and to stand in a room.

01:50:19.539 --> 01:50:22.819
And the engagement that those like VR, whether

01:50:22.819 --> 01:50:24.819
it's Oculus or what have you, that they have

01:50:24.819 --> 01:50:27.340
in comparison to like people playing with their

01:50:27.340 --> 01:50:29.100
phones, like people going on social media. It's

01:50:29.100 --> 01:50:31.220
no comparison, right? Yeah. It's a tiny, tiny,

01:50:31.300 --> 01:50:33.500
tiny fraction of the people. But I'm wondering

01:50:33.500 --> 01:50:35.600
if there's going to be a tipping point because,

01:50:35.680 --> 01:50:40.329
you know, I'm. from an age where i grew up with

01:50:40.329 --> 01:50:42.710
no internet i'm like one of the last generations

01:50:42.710 --> 01:50:44.670
of people that grew up without an internet and

01:50:44.670 --> 01:50:46.630
didn't get the internet until i was in my 20s

01:50:46.630 --> 01:50:49.789
and that's when it all emerged in the in the

01:50:49.789 --> 01:50:53.069
world and i slowly watched it take over but no

01:50:53.069 --> 01:50:55.500
one ever would have anticipated that you'd have

01:50:55.500 --> 01:50:57.560
a device in your pocket that people would be

01:50:57.560 --> 01:50:59.899
addicted to, and many people would be on it eight

01:50:59.899 --> 01:51:01.800
hours a day just staring at people's butts. Yeah,

01:51:01.840 --> 01:51:04.439
I get where you're going with this. This virtual

01:51:04.439 --> 01:51:06.640
reality thing, there's a lot of people that are

01:51:06.640 --> 01:51:08.340
dismissing it, and a lot of people think, but

01:51:08.340 --> 01:51:11.829
when I see Zucker... Zuckerberg put so much emphasis

01:51:11.829 --> 01:51:13.970
on this and the fact that he's even changing

01:51:13.970 --> 01:51:16.869
the name of his company to Meta. And I see these

01:51:16.869 --> 01:51:19.289
commercials that they're doing with people staring

01:51:19.289 --> 01:51:22.250
into these art pieces and start dancing and moving.

01:51:22.350 --> 01:51:25.529
And I'm like, where is this going? Do you think

01:51:25.529 --> 01:51:29.489
about it at all? A little bit. I honestly, I

01:51:29.489 --> 01:51:30.810
think the first step is definitely going to be

01:51:30.810 --> 01:51:33.569
augmented reality. I think so too. Like the Google

01:51:33.569 --> 01:51:35.390
Glasses or Apple Glasses and stuff like that.

01:51:35.789 --> 01:51:38.920
And then... I don't know. It's hard to say because

01:51:38.920 --> 01:51:40.520
you're right. Technology advances so much more

01:51:40.520 --> 01:51:44.239
rapidly. I do believe within my lifetime I will

01:51:44.239 --> 01:51:46.560
be able to put on a full suit and just lay down

01:51:46.560 --> 01:51:49.800
and play in virtual reality, maybe when I'm 60,

01:51:49.920 --> 01:51:52.579
70, and play an actual game, have sensors hooked

01:51:52.579 --> 01:51:55.359
up, actually feel shit, and maybe with Neuralink

01:51:55.359 --> 01:51:56.939
or some shit, and control it with my mind and

01:51:56.939 --> 01:51:58.500
actually feel like I'm in a different world.

01:51:59.180 --> 01:52:01.100
But it's weird because my gut's like, ah, that

01:52:01.100 --> 01:52:03.819
shit's like 20, 30 years away. But in reality,

01:52:03.899 --> 01:52:06.180
in 10 years, VR is going to be more advanced.

01:52:06.409 --> 01:52:08.390
could ever imagine and it's scary you're right

01:52:08.390 --> 01:52:10.829
it's crazy to think about you saw ready player

01:52:10.829 --> 01:52:13.329
one i'm sure yeah of course yeah that kind of

01:52:13.329 --> 01:52:15.409
world is not outside the realm of possibility

01:52:15.409 --> 01:52:19.250
in my lifetime yeah 100 yeah it's good i don't

01:52:19.250 --> 01:52:21.109
think it's going to be that long man i don't

01:52:21.109 --> 01:52:22.890
think i think you know like you're saying 10

01:52:22.890 --> 01:52:25.890
15 years i think there's gonna supply chain ramp

01:52:25.890 --> 01:52:27.829
up and stuff like that i mean it's going to take

01:52:27.829 --> 01:52:33.050
many many years um and yeah I mean, 15 doesn't

01:52:33.050 --> 01:52:34.949
seem crazy. Actually, even 10 seems – it's just

01:52:34.949 --> 01:52:37.189
– I don't know. But that's like our brains aren't

01:52:37.189 --> 01:52:39.310
good at thinking about how rapidly technology

01:52:39.310 --> 01:52:43.149
advances. What is the most advanced haptic feedback

01:52:43.149 --> 01:52:45.989
suit now, Jamie? Is there anything that's new

01:52:45.989 --> 01:52:47.789
on the horizon? Because I know they were doing

01:52:47.789 --> 01:52:51.050
stuff that could – like if you got shot in a

01:52:51.050 --> 01:52:52.949
game, it could – have you ever done sandbox?

01:52:53.250 --> 01:52:55.189
Do you know what that is? No. It's fun, man.

01:52:55.510 --> 01:52:58.010
You go to a warehouse. They have one here in

01:52:58.010 --> 01:52:59.890
Austin, and one of them is this thing called

01:52:59.890 --> 01:53:02.000
Deadwood Man. So I've done it with my family

01:53:02.000 --> 01:53:03.880
a bunch of times. You go to a warehouse, you

01:53:03.880 --> 01:53:06.260
put the goggles on, they give you a haptic feedback

01:53:06.260 --> 01:53:09.619
vest, they give you plastic guns. I have done

01:53:09.619 --> 01:53:11.000
that. I did not know that was called sandbox,

01:53:11.100 --> 01:53:13.739
though. And you fight zombies. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:53:14.119 --> 01:53:15.840
Maybe we went to the same one. Yeah, I went to

01:53:15.840 --> 01:53:17.840
one here two years ago. Yeah, there's one in

01:53:17.840 --> 01:53:19.979
Austin, and then there's one, I've been to the

01:53:19.979 --> 01:53:21.739
one in Woodland Hills, California, too. Yeah,

01:53:21.739 --> 01:53:23.439
and did they have the lines on the ground and

01:53:23.439 --> 01:53:25.979
stuff, too? There's some Call of Duty game they

01:53:25.979 --> 01:53:27.859
had as well where there's walls and stuff, and

01:53:27.859 --> 01:53:29.979
they're wrapped on the ground. No. They didn't

01:53:29.979 --> 01:53:32.239
have lines, but you're just basically in a room.

01:53:32.420 --> 01:53:34.880
And then as soon as they turn it on, that room

01:53:34.880 --> 01:53:37.819
becomes like this virtual world. And all your

01:53:37.819 --> 01:53:39.539
friends, like you see them in front of you and

01:53:39.539 --> 01:53:41.880
they're these avatars now, like they're a pirate

01:53:41.880 --> 01:53:44.079
or something like this. And then you get to do

01:53:44.079 --> 01:53:46.220
this game on a pirate ship and you could fight

01:53:46.220 --> 01:53:48.079
off these skeletons that are trying to kill you.

01:53:48.260 --> 01:53:51.399
Or you're in the zombie game and the zombies

01:53:51.399 --> 01:53:53.500
are running at you and you're blasting with a

01:53:53.500 --> 01:53:55.619
shotgun and blood splattering everywhere. And

01:53:55.619 --> 01:53:58.119
they get a hold of you. You feel them touch your

01:53:58.119 --> 01:54:00.609
suit. You see, like, red in front of your eyes

01:54:00.609 --> 01:54:01.989
because they're tearing you apart and you're

01:54:01.989 --> 01:54:04.270
trying to shoot them and reload your gun. It's

01:54:04.270 --> 01:54:07.350
wild. And it's really fun. And my thought is,

01:54:07.390 --> 01:54:10.569
like, this is Pong. You know, this is do -do

01:54:10.569 --> 01:54:14.029
-do -do -do -do -do -do. This is just a sort

01:54:14.029 --> 01:54:16.569
of it's really fun. It's really exciting. But

01:54:16.569 --> 01:54:19.949
it's going to be it's going to come a time where

01:54:19.949 --> 01:54:22.390
as this technology continues to evolve and they

01:54:22.390 --> 01:54:25.869
continue to have new innovation, it'll be indistinguishable

01:54:25.869 --> 01:54:29.020
from a real experience. Yeah. And I don't know

01:54:29.020 --> 01:54:32.359
how far away that is. I mean, I don't know either.

01:54:32.420 --> 01:54:34.039
If I dedicated my life, I could probably figure

01:54:34.039 --> 01:54:37.760
it out, but yeah. My thing is I'm wondering if

01:54:37.760 --> 01:54:39.680
it's going to come to a point in time where your

01:54:39.680 --> 01:54:43.229
show. is going to exist in a virtual reality

01:54:43.229 --> 01:54:46.409
world where someone could not just watch it,

01:54:46.449 --> 01:54:49.449
but actually be in it and be a part of it. Well,

01:54:49.569 --> 01:54:51.409
I mean, obviously, if virtual reality has mass

01:54:51.409 --> 01:54:53.649
adoption, of course. It's really just when the

01:54:53.649 --> 01:54:55.810
tech gets here. If everyone had a VR headset

01:54:55.810 --> 01:54:57.949
in their house, yeah, you probably would go to

01:54:57.949 --> 01:54:59.989
concerts in there, too, if it just wasn't so

01:54:59.989 --> 01:55:02.710
shit. Yeah, exactly. How good is the haptic feedback

01:55:02.710 --> 01:55:05.989
suits now? I'm trying to look at what they were

01:55:05.989 --> 01:55:08.090
showing at CES and see if anybody said, you've

01:55:08.090 --> 01:55:09.750
got to try this, one of those kinds of things.

01:55:10.010 --> 01:55:12.210
I know they have things that affect your hands.

01:55:12.510 --> 01:55:14.850
It seems like the best thing they showed were

01:55:14.850 --> 01:55:18.369
maybe some gloves, and they sound very expensive,

01:55:18.590 --> 01:55:21.729
and I can't tell that, like they said they were

01:55:21.729 --> 01:55:24.170
turning knobs, so I don't know how good that

01:55:24.170 --> 01:55:26.850
feels to make you're actually turning a knob

01:55:26.850 --> 01:55:30.180
or not. And what is the best VR setup now? Is

01:55:30.180 --> 01:55:34.520
it Oculus? Is it HTC Vive? It depends on what

01:55:34.520 --> 01:55:36.840
you want to do, honestly, because I've had it

01:55:36.840 --> 01:55:40.140
for a long time now. So there's not, from what

01:55:40.140 --> 01:55:42.159
I've been looking, a new game that's come out

01:55:42.159 --> 01:55:44.859
recently that's like, oh, my God, check this

01:55:44.859 --> 01:55:47.439
out. I would have showed it to you. Right, right.

01:55:47.640 --> 01:55:49.600
And I don't know that there is one. Literally

01:55:49.600 --> 01:55:52.739
all I play with my Rift is just Beat Saber. Yeah,

01:55:52.779 --> 01:55:54.760
that's been around for a while. You can actually

01:55:54.760 --> 01:55:56.260
get a really good workout with that. I agree.

01:55:56.319 --> 01:55:58.079
It's so much fun. You're swinging your arms around.

01:55:58.180 --> 01:56:00.239
And another thing that's really great with the

01:56:00.239 --> 01:56:03.340
Oculus, there's a boxing game that you play.

01:56:03.850 --> 01:56:06.550
So you've got this – because the way Oculus is

01:56:06.550 --> 01:56:09.229
set up, the one we had back at our Woodland Hill

01:56:09.229 --> 01:56:11.670
studio, it was like just an iPad was controlling

01:56:11.670 --> 01:56:13.550
it, right? So you have the headphones and they're

01:56:13.550 --> 01:56:15.489
pretty light and then you have these things on

01:56:15.489 --> 01:56:18.630
and you're in this virtual ring and you're boxing

01:56:18.630 --> 01:56:21.329
this character. And every time he hits you, you

01:56:21.329 --> 01:56:23.210
see like a flash of light in front of your eyes.

01:56:23.329 --> 01:56:26.970
And so you're basically shadow boxing but you're

01:56:26.970 --> 01:56:30.529
reacting to a thing. So you're moving and you

01:56:30.529 --> 01:56:32.829
get a good cardio workout. You could actually

01:56:32.829 --> 01:56:34.649
get a – a really solid workout. I've never seen

01:56:34.649 --> 01:56:36.710
this. This popped up on the thing. I was like,

01:56:36.750 --> 01:56:40.149
this is a preview of an Iron Man VR game. This

01:56:40.149 --> 01:56:44.810
could get into a AAA title game where they're

01:56:44.810 --> 01:56:46.489
spending a lot of money. Any game like this where

01:56:46.489 --> 01:56:48.289
you move in game but you're not moving in real

01:56:48.289 --> 01:56:51.109
life gives me severe motion sickness. I feel

01:56:51.109 --> 01:56:52.890
like it does for a lot of other people I know

01:56:52.890 --> 01:56:55.750
as well. Obviously, you're not flying in real

01:56:55.750 --> 01:56:57.550
life. You're not moving in real life, but you're

01:56:57.550 --> 01:57:00.670
moving in game. That always fucks with me. So

01:57:00.670 --> 01:57:02.720
it makes you want to throw up? Yeah, or it just

01:57:02.720 --> 01:57:04.279
gives me like a giant headache. I wonder if there's

01:57:04.279 --> 01:57:05.600
something they can give you for that, like a

01:57:05.600 --> 01:57:07.819
Dramamine or one of them little things they put

01:57:07.819 --> 01:57:10.500
on your wrist, like if you got on a boat, you

01:57:10.500 --> 01:57:12.359
know? Yeah. I know you didn't get into Ready

01:57:12.359 --> 01:57:14.000
Player Two, but that is part of what happens

01:57:14.000 --> 01:57:17.220
in the fictionalized world where the thing got

01:57:17.220 --> 01:57:21.340
too real and they've upgraded it. If you spend

01:57:21.340 --> 01:57:23.960
more than 12 hours in it, your brain starts disconnecting

01:57:23.960 --> 01:57:26.369
and you can die. That makes sense. They worked

01:57:26.369 --> 01:57:28.189
that into the physical world. I'm sure Zuck's

01:57:28.189 --> 01:57:30.750
taking that into account. We'll see. Well, that's

01:57:30.750 --> 01:57:34.010
probably going to be where they come up with

01:57:34.010 --> 01:57:37.090
a human brain interface. You know, the human

01:57:37.090 --> 01:57:39.989
brain interface question, it's like how much

01:57:39.989 --> 01:57:42.569
time have you spent looking at what Elon said

01:57:42.569 --> 01:57:44.930
about Neuralink? Outside of your podcast? Nothing.

01:57:46.359 --> 01:57:48.840
It's very complicated because the first steps

01:57:48.840 --> 01:57:52.720
about it are really undeniably important because

01:57:52.720 --> 01:57:55.619
the first steps about it are reconnecting people's

01:57:55.619 --> 01:57:58.899
spinal cords. The first way that it's going to

01:57:58.899 --> 01:58:01.600
be implemented is people that have severe spinal

01:58:01.600 --> 01:58:04.159
cord injuries. So someone who has an injury like

01:58:04.159 --> 01:58:07.300
that, they'll be able to do something where this

01:58:07.300 --> 01:58:12.699
implant interfaces with the brain and somehow

01:58:12.699 --> 01:58:16.479
or another can control the nerves or activate

01:58:16.479 --> 01:58:18.819
parts of the body i'm not exactly sure how it's

01:58:18.819 --> 01:58:21.199
done but it's going to allow people that are

01:58:21.199 --> 01:58:24.939
paralyzed to walk It's crazy. Which is an undeniably

01:58:24.939 --> 01:58:27.239
amazing thing. There's no ethical questions about

01:58:27.239 --> 01:58:30.520
that. The ethical questions arise when you realize

01:58:30.520 --> 01:58:33.239
that you're going to be putting this quarter

01:58:33.239 --> 01:58:35.800
-sized hole in someone's head, and then you're

01:58:35.800 --> 01:58:38.319
going to put wires into their brain, and it's

01:58:38.319 --> 01:58:41.220
going to change the way human beings interface

01:58:41.220 --> 01:58:43.640
with information. He said it's basically going

01:58:43.640 --> 01:58:45.819
to increase, this is his words, it's going to

01:58:45.819 --> 01:58:49.680
increase your bandwidth, your access to information,

01:58:49.680 --> 01:58:51.680
and you're going to be able to talk without words.

01:58:52.199 --> 01:58:53.859
Yeah, I remember he said that on your podcast

01:58:53.859 --> 01:58:56.840
as well. I mean, fuck. If anybody else said that,

01:58:56.880 --> 01:58:58.979
I'd be like, shut up, bitch. But when Elon says

01:58:58.979 --> 01:59:02.359
it, I was like, shit. He probably – I mean, he's

01:59:02.359 --> 01:59:05.619
not saying that wildly. He's probably got a plan

01:59:05.619 --> 01:59:08.140
for coming up with something. See, now you're

01:59:08.140 --> 01:59:10.140
making me wish I was more educated in this because

01:59:10.140 --> 01:59:12.539
that's so fascinating. There's so much cool shit

01:59:12.539 --> 01:59:16.260
going on, like VR, that. Fuck. There's so much

01:59:16.260 --> 01:59:20.420
cool shit, and my feeling is – The way the internet

01:59:20.420 --> 01:59:23.739
sort of just changed life. If you go back to

01:59:23.739 --> 01:59:26.619
pre -internet versus post -internet, there's

01:59:26.619 --> 01:59:28.300
a lot of problems that people have with the internet,

01:59:28.439 --> 01:59:30.439
right? There's cyberbullying. There's a lot of

01:59:30.439 --> 01:59:32.340
people that are disconnected. A lot of kids in

01:59:32.340 --> 01:59:35.159
particular have a real problem with social media,

01:59:35.340 --> 01:59:39.960
FOMO, and just with people bullying them and

01:59:39.960 --> 01:59:42.239
them comparing their lives to other people. With

01:59:42.239 --> 01:59:45.420
girls in particular, there's a lot of serious

01:59:45.420 --> 01:59:47.859
psychological issues that have come with social

01:59:47.859 --> 01:59:51.159
media. But it came out of nowhere, man. I mean,

01:59:51.180 --> 01:59:53.220
we're talking about like the real implementation

01:59:53.220 --> 01:59:56.000
of social media or mass scale where it started

01:59:56.000 --> 01:59:59.520
affecting people's lives as early 2000s. And

01:59:59.520 --> 02:00:02.880
now here we are. Maybe like 2010. Yeah, really

02:00:02.880 --> 02:00:07.579
was phones. So iPhone 2007, right? Which took

02:00:07.579 --> 02:00:10.720
years to ramp up. Like maybe even 2010 is a little

02:00:10.720 --> 02:00:13.000
early. Because I agree. It's not like we've had

02:00:13.000 --> 02:00:15.380
100 years to study how this shit affects us.

02:00:15.439 --> 02:00:19.460
Exactly. It's all very recent. changed lives

02:00:19.460 --> 02:00:24.359
so quickly. It went from, you know, 1990, almost

02:00:24.359 --> 02:00:29.220
no one had a phone, a cell phone, to 2020, everyone

02:00:29.220 --> 02:00:32.880
has a cell phone, to what is it 20 years from

02:00:32.880 --> 02:00:36.439
now? What is it 30 years from now? I mean, when

02:00:36.439 --> 02:00:40.020
does this new technology get implemented and

02:00:40.020 --> 02:00:42.640
completely change the way human beings communicate

02:00:42.640 --> 02:00:45.270
with each other? I don't... I don't think it's

02:00:45.270 --> 02:00:47.329
going to be that far away, man. I think once

02:00:47.329 --> 02:00:50.409
it gets going, the problem is, and the way Elon

02:00:50.409 --> 02:00:52.069
was explaining it, you're going to have such

02:00:52.069 --> 02:00:55.270
a competitive advantage if you have this chip,

02:00:55.350 --> 02:00:56.890
if you have this Neuralink, if you have this

02:00:56.890 --> 02:00:58.689
setup. You could just get an infinite loan out

02:00:58.689 --> 02:01:02.609
to get it put in. Well, not just that, but we've

02:01:02.609 --> 02:01:04.430
always had this problem where the rich get richer

02:01:04.430 --> 02:01:07.930
and the poor get poorer. What happens from the

02:01:07.930 --> 02:01:10.489
haves and the have -nots, once the haves have

02:01:10.489 --> 02:01:13.810
a fucking Neuralink, And now they have literally

02:01:13.810 --> 02:01:16.710
like an infinity pill that they're taking that

02:01:16.710 --> 02:01:19.029
gets – what is that movie with Bradley Cooper?

02:01:19.310 --> 02:01:21.329
Limitless. Limitless. They got a limitless pill

02:01:21.329 --> 02:01:23.670
they're taking. And then out of nowhere, they

02:01:23.670 --> 02:01:27.170
have incredible access to information. Imagine

02:01:27.170 --> 02:01:29.689
literally learning everything I know, everything

02:01:29.689 --> 02:01:31.810
I've spent my whole life studying, just downloading

02:01:31.810 --> 02:01:33.850
your brain in a second. And what if it gives

02:01:33.850 --> 02:01:36.270
you energy too? Because you think about what

02:01:36.270 --> 02:01:38.069
are people taking when they're taking stimulants

02:01:38.069 --> 02:01:39.289
like Adderall. Well, they're taking something

02:01:39.289 --> 02:01:41.880
that stimulates your brain. I mean, it stimulates

02:01:41.880 --> 02:01:44.020
your central nervous system, but it gives your

02:01:44.020 --> 02:01:47.260
brain more information or more energy, rather.

02:01:47.399 --> 02:01:50.819
But if you could do that electronically, where

02:01:50.819 --> 02:01:53.119
you're not juicing yourself up with amphetamines,

02:01:53.119 --> 02:01:55.439
but instead you're enhancing all the capabilities

02:01:55.439 --> 02:01:59.539
of your entire neural network. Yeah. Crazy. Bro,

02:01:59.579 --> 02:02:01.600
we're going to be robots. We're going to be cyber

02:02:01.600 --> 02:02:04.699
people. I don't know in our lives. I think so.

02:02:04.920 --> 02:02:07.170
Yeah? Yeah, I think so. I think it's going to

02:02:07.170 --> 02:02:12.050
happen quick. I think the big fear is AI, right?

02:02:12.520 --> 02:02:14.640
What people are worried about is a sentient artificial

02:02:14.640 --> 02:02:17.739
intelligence that's far superior to ours that

02:02:17.739 --> 02:02:20.600
realizes that we're not just outdated, but we're

02:02:20.600 --> 02:02:22.260
kind of dangerous and we ruin the environment

02:02:22.260 --> 02:02:25.020
and just decides to get rid of us and take over

02:02:25.020 --> 02:02:26.880
as the new life form. You accidentally write

02:02:26.880 --> 02:02:28.699
something that's like, help us solve climate

02:02:28.699 --> 02:02:30.300
change. And it's like, the solution is just kill

02:02:30.300 --> 02:02:32.180
the humans. Well, Marshall McLuhan wrote about

02:02:32.180 --> 02:02:34.180
this in the 1960s. He said, human beings are

02:02:34.180 --> 02:02:37.859
the sex organs of the machine world. Sex organs

02:02:37.859 --> 02:02:40.020
of the machine world. Elaborate on that. Well,

02:02:40.020 --> 02:02:43.500
we make the machines. The machines need us to

02:02:43.500 --> 02:02:47.260
make them. We are how they replicate. So once

02:02:47.260 --> 02:02:51.380
the human being creates a machine that's better

02:02:51.380 --> 02:02:54.760
than it. why would the machine keep it around?

02:02:54.920 --> 02:02:57.659
If they create an artificial life form that can

02:02:57.659 --> 02:03:01.199
make better... We're incredibly advanced compared

02:03:01.199 --> 02:03:04.340
to most of the creatures on this planet. But

02:03:04.340 --> 02:03:07.039
compared to what's possible, I mean, godlike

02:03:07.039 --> 02:03:09.840
powers, infinite powers are possible if you just

02:03:09.840 --> 02:03:13.460
scale up from what we can do now with nuclear

02:03:13.460 --> 02:03:16.319
power and video and 5G that you could send to

02:03:16.319 --> 02:03:19.140
Australia in a second. It's wild shit you can

02:03:19.140 --> 02:03:22.539
do right now. Imagine how far... that keeps going

02:03:22.539 --> 02:03:25.420
and where it's going to go. Well, if they, if

02:03:25.420 --> 02:03:27.720
it eventually goes to an artificial creature,

02:03:27.880 --> 02:03:31.399
an artificial being that someone constructs and

02:03:31.399 --> 02:03:33.819
it's not biologically based at all. So it doesn't

02:03:33.819 --> 02:03:35.880
have any of the pitfalls that we have in terms

02:03:35.880 --> 02:03:39.800
of our, our reliance on emotions and fear and

02:03:39.800 --> 02:03:43.619
our desire to breed and ego and all these different

02:03:43.619 --> 02:03:45.500
weird things that people have. None of those

02:03:45.500 --> 02:03:47.840
has zero, zero of those things will be obsolete.

02:03:48.800 --> 02:03:52.460
I mean, in a hypothetical world, I agree. The

02:03:52.460 --> 02:03:54.319
hypothetical world is being worked on right now

02:03:54.319 --> 02:03:56.279
by the smartest fucking people in the world.

02:03:56.500 --> 02:03:59.060
That's why it's sketchy. And that's why I'd rather

02:03:59.060 --> 02:04:00.920
just live in my own little bubble, just do my

02:04:00.920 --> 02:04:04.020
own little thing. You figured that out with them.

02:04:04.159 --> 02:04:06.300
You guys handle it. Here, just make sure I don't

02:04:06.300 --> 02:04:09.079
get killed by this AI. And I'll be over here.

02:04:09.140 --> 02:04:10.979
I'll make YouTube videos. I'll do my thing. I'll

02:04:10.979 --> 02:04:12.500
feed people. Listen, I'm not figuring out shit.

02:04:12.600 --> 02:04:14.779
I'm just talking. I'm just talking, and I get

02:04:14.779 --> 02:04:17.439
to talk to smart people. But the thing that I'm

02:04:17.439 --> 02:04:21.500
worried is it's going to sneak up on us. of the

02:04:21.500 --> 02:04:24.380
ways that we avoid artificial intelligence I

02:04:24.380 --> 02:04:26.779
mean if you look at like the possible pitfalls

02:04:26.779 --> 02:04:29.739
like how does how does this play out one of the

02:04:29.739 --> 02:04:33.600
ways we avoid being obsolete is we integrate

02:04:34.319 --> 02:04:36.220
And that's what I think Neuralink is. I think

02:04:36.220 --> 02:04:38.819
Neuralink is a no -brainer at some point or something

02:04:38.819 --> 02:04:42.699
like that because right now your rate of learning

02:04:42.699 --> 02:04:44.279
is just as fast as you can read. I mean it just

02:04:44.279 --> 02:04:46.000
makes sense to be able to download information

02:04:46.000 --> 02:04:48.619
if that is possible. If that is something that

02:04:48.619 --> 02:04:51.619
can physically happen, then it's obviously going

02:04:51.619 --> 02:04:54.520
to happen eventually because it's a no -brainer.

02:04:54.720 --> 02:04:56.659
Yeah, I had Coleman Hughes on the podcast and

02:04:56.659 --> 02:04:58.600
he disagrees. He thinks it's going to be so much

02:04:58.600 --> 02:05:02.529
more difficult to sort of replicate the – the

02:05:02.529 --> 02:05:04.949
human mind because there's so little we know

02:05:04.949 --> 02:05:07.210
the human mind. But one of the things that I,

02:05:07.270 --> 02:05:09.029
I don't know if I've said this to him, I forgot

02:05:09.029 --> 02:05:10.550
to say it to him, but my position on that has

02:05:10.550 --> 02:05:12.390
always been we don't have to replicate the human

02:05:12.390 --> 02:05:14.390
mind. We just have to replicate its ability.

02:05:15.170 --> 02:05:16.970
Like the idea that you have to replicate the

02:05:16.970 --> 02:05:18.390
human mind, well, you have to understand the

02:05:18.390 --> 02:05:21.109
human mind and, you know, just the neurons and

02:05:21.109 --> 02:05:23.329
all the cells working together and the human

02:05:23.329 --> 02:05:26.130
neurochemistry and the neurotransmitters. There's

02:05:26.130 --> 02:05:28.449
so much shit going on in the brain constantly.

02:05:28.550 --> 02:05:32.140
It's an intensely complex process. They don't

02:05:32.140 --> 02:05:35.979
have to recreate that. Just make a new thing

02:05:35.979 --> 02:05:39.319
that does what the brain does, but does it better.

02:05:39.560 --> 02:05:42.060
And we've essentially started doing that with

02:05:42.060 --> 02:05:44.560
artificial intelligence computers. I mean, look

02:05:44.560 --> 02:05:47.060
what we've done with chess, right? It used to

02:05:47.060 --> 02:05:49.140
be they thought the one thing that shows that

02:05:49.140 --> 02:05:52.020
human beings are more intelligent than computers

02:05:52.020 --> 02:05:55.060
is that computers can't beat them at chess. Well,

02:05:55.079 --> 02:05:57.840
now they beat people at chess quick. Not only

02:05:57.840 --> 02:06:00.380
do they beat people at chess, now computers...

02:06:00.800 --> 02:06:02.979
get creative, and they come up with their own

02:06:02.979 --> 02:06:06.539
moves. What do you mean, own moves? Their own

02:06:06.539 --> 02:06:08.020
moves. They come up with their own openings.

02:06:09.039 --> 02:06:12.699
Computers come up with different patterns of

02:06:12.699 --> 02:06:15.039
playing chess that haven't been established by

02:06:15.039 --> 02:06:18.159
grandmasters. And not just chess. It might be

02:06:18.159 --> 02:06:20.560
actually Go that I'm thinking of, which Go is

02:06:20.560 --> 02:06:23.239
apparently much more complex than chess. I remember

02:06:23.239 --> 02:06:26.079
that, the AlphaGo documentary. Yeah. And so these

02:06:26.079 --> 02:06:29.489
computers... Here it is. DeepMinds AI is helping

02:06:29.489 --> 02:06:32.289
to rewrite the rules of chess. DeepMinds researchers

02:06:32.289 --> 02:06:34.909
are letting AlphaZero play with different rules

02:06:34.909 --> 02:06:37.630
to find out how to improve the game. They're

02:06:37.630 --> 02:06:40.550
creative, at least in the context of the game

02:06:40.550 --> 02:06:45.010
of chess. So, look, that didn't used to be the

02:06:45.010 --> 02:06:47.550
case 10 years ago, 30 years ago. They're getting

02:06:47.550 --> 02:06:51.310
better at thinking. How long? Did you see Ex

02:06:51.310 --> 02:06:54.850
Machina? No. You didn't? No. How dare you? What

02:06:54.850 --> 02:06:56.510
even is that? You never saw that movie? Wait.

02:06:56.609 --> 02:06:59.289
Oh, my gosh. I purely grew up on YouTube. I haven't

02:06:59.289 --> 02:07:03.090
seen hardly any. That's wild. Isn't it incredible

02:07:03.090 --> 02:07:04.670
what you can accomplish with singular focus?

02:07:04.689 --> 02:07:06.050
I said something to him earlier. I was like,

02:07:06.130 --> 02:07:10.359
is that on YouTube? No, it's popular. I mean,

02:07:10.380 --> 02:07:12.439
that's how you get successful at a young age.

02:07:12.539 --> 02:07:15.220
You just obsess and cut everything else out.

02:07:15.380 --> 02:07:18.000
I'm not doubting that. But you would love Ex

02:07:18.000 --> 02:07:20.779
Machina. It's a fucking amazing movie. It's one

02:07:20.779 --> 02:07:22.899
of my top ten favorite movies of all time. And

02:07:22.899 --> 02:07:25.539
it's a movie about this guy who's a super genius,

02:07:25.619 --> 02:07:27.260
the guy on the far right who's been in Star Wars.

02:07:27.500 --> 02:07:29.720
What's that dude's name, Jamie? Oscar Isaac.

02:07:29.979 --> 02:07:33.460
Oscar Isaac. He's awesome. And he creates – and

02:07:33.460 --> 02:07:37.029
who's the girl? I don't remember her name off

02:07:37.029 --> 02:07:38.510
the top of my head. Well, let's give her some

02:07:38.510 --> 02:07:41.029
props to find out who it is. But anyway, it's

02:07:41.029 --> 02:07:43.069
an amazing movie. It's one of my top ten all

02:07:43.069 --> 02:07:44.430
-time favorite movies. Someone listening to this

02:07:44.430 --> 02:07:47.369
text me to watch it. That Oscar guy is... Alicia

02:07:47.369 --> 02:07:52.170
Vikander. Alicia Vikander, Oscar Isaac, and then

02:07:52.170 --> 02:07:58.869
Dom Hanal Gleesom is the computer coder that

02:07:58.869 --> 02:08:02.720
this guy hires. So Oscar... The Nathan guy is

02:08:02.720 --> 02:08:05.380
this like super genius who lives in this very

02:08:05.380 --> 02:08:07.899
remote location and he's been secretly working

02:08:07.899 --> 02:08:11.500
on an advanced, super complex version of artificial

02:08:11.500 --> 02:08:15.819
life. And he has literal artificial humans in

02:08:15.819 --> 02:08:19.859
this compound that you realize are human or you

02:08:19.859 --> 02:08:23.079
realize are not human along the way. And one

02:08:23.079 --> 02:08:25.760
that he has this guy do. You know what the Turing

02:08:25.760 --> 02:08:29.479
test is? No. The Turing test is a test that was

02:08:29.479 --> 02:08:32.380
created by this guy. Is it Arthur Turing? Alan.

02:08:32.500 --> 02:08:38.199
Alan Turing. Alan Turing was a guy who devised

02:08:38.199 --> 02:08:44.159
a test to find out. The idea was if. You could

02:08:44.159 --> 02:08:47.460
interact with a computer and not know that it's

02:08:47.460 --> 02:08:49.939
a computer. Then it would pass this test. If

02:08:49.939 --> 02:08:51.520
you could interact with something and it would

02:08:51.520 --> 02:08:53.680
behave and think and communicate like a human

02:08:53.680 --> 02:08:57.159
being. And so he was kind of brought on, the

02:08:57.159 --> 02:09:00.619
computer coder, to interact with this woman who

02:09:00.619 --> 02:09:05.619
was clearly a robot. But she was so seductive

02:09:05.619 --> 02:09:09.239
and beautiful and the way she communicated was

02:09:09.239 --> 02:09:12.300
so enticing that it was essentially passing the

02:09:12.300 --> 02:09:15.460
Turing test even though he knew. And Alan Turing,

02:09:15.479 --> 02:09:18.899
which is really crazy, Alan Turing existed, he

02:09:18.899 --> 02:09:22.819
was born in a barbaric time. And I believe he

02:09:22.819 --> 02:09:26.539
lived in the UK and he was gay and he was...

02:09:26.779 --> 02:09:30.399
Tried and prosecuted for being gay and they made

02:09:30.399 --> 02:09:36.020
him take drugs that I Think he they made him

02:09:36.020 --> 02:09:40.220
take like a chemical circumcision drug not circumcision

02:09:40.220 --> 02:09:43.119
castration drug a chemical castration drug that

02:09:43.119 --> 02:09:45.100
killed his libido and he wound up committing

02:09:45.100 --> 02:09:50.640
suicide so the one of the leading fathers in

02:09:50.640 --> 02:10:01.920
concepts Yeah. Which is really wild. 1952, he's

02:10:01.920 --> 02:10:04.920
convicted of gross indecency with another man

02:10:04.920 --> 02:10:09.220
and was forced to undergo so -called... Organotherapy.

02:10:09.680 --> 02:10:12.520
Chemical castration. It's crazy that wasn't even

02:10:12.520 --> 02:10:16.159
100 years ago. No, man. Wow. 1952. Two years

02:10:16.159 --> 02:10:18.840
later, he killed himself with cyanide at just

02:10:18.840 --> 02:10:22.060
41 years old. Alan Turing was driven to a terrible

02:10:22.060 --> 02:10:25.340
despair and early death by the nation he'd done

02:10:25.340 --> 02:10:29.640
so much to save. It's an amazing story. And it's

02:10:29.640 --> 02:10:32.619
so heartbreaking because it shows you the stupidity

02:10:32.619 --> 02:10:34.989
and the ignorance. And the prejudice of human

02:10:34.989 --> 02:10:38.729
beings destroying a guy who had this vision to

02:10:38.729 --> 02:10:43.250
understand what possibly can be coming down the

02:10:43.250 --> 02:10:46.670
line in terms of artificial life. Yeah. And if

02:10:46.670 --> 02:10:49.149
he was 40 then. I mean, he would have lived to

02:10:49.149 --> 02:10:51.250
like 2000. He would have seen some wild shit.

02:10:51.329 --> 02:10:53.010
Yeah, exactly. I imagine what he would have came

02:10:53.010 --> 02:10:54.909
up with once computers actually fucking worked.

02:10:55.090 --> 02:10:57.829
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean, who knows how much

02:10:57.829 --> 02:11:00.270
we would have advanced his ideas and concepts,

02:11:00.329 --> 02:11:02.590
but. Yeah. With all that stuff, I wish I had

02:11:02.590 --> 02:11:04.529
more value to add, but it's like, honestly, this

02:11:04.529 --> 02:11:06.569
is like a lot of what you just said. Probably

02:11:06.569 --> 02:11:08.630
like the first time I've ever thought of half

02:11:08.630 --> 02:11:11.310
that shit. Really? Yeah. I don't really spend

02:11:11.310 --> 02:11:13.369
too much time thinking about futuristic stuff.

02:11:13.470 --> 02:11:14.670
I'm usually just like. But you work in computers.

02:11:15.579 --> 02:11:18.279
You work on computers. Your shit gets uploaded

02:11:18.279 --> 02:11:23.140
to computers. I work in content. It's interesting.

02:11:23.359 --> 02:11:25.479
You're definitely getting my gears turning. I

02:11:25.479 --> 02:11:28.020
wish I had more value to add. You're great, man.

02:11:28.100 --> 02:11:30.819
Stop. I'm ex -mocking it, though. You must see

02:11:30.819 --> 02:11:33.659
it. I'm going to watch it. You have to. You don't

02:11:33.659 --> 02:11:35.760
have to. Do whatever the fuck you want. See how

02:11:35.760 --> 02:11:39.220
hard you vouched for it. I kind of have to watch

02:11:39.220 --> 02:11:41.159
it. I've watched it like four or five times.

02:11:41.439 --> 02:11:44.579
At least. I love it. Do you watch films? Do you

02:11:44.579 --> 02:11:46.319
watch any films? No. When was the last time you

02:11:46.319 --> 02:11:48.699
saw a movie? Well, I watched the Spider -Man

02:11:48.699 --> 02:11:51.220
No Way Home because it was cool. That just came

02:11:51.220 --> 02:11:53.140
out on Apple, didn't it? Isn't it available now

02:11:53.140 --> 02:11:57.119
on Apple TV? My 11 -year -old that's obsessed

02:11:57.119 --> 02:11:58.899
with you is also obsessed with Spider -Man. Yeah,

02:11:58.920 --> 02:12:01.199
everyone is at the moment. Tom Holland's crushing

02:12:01.199 --> 02:12:05.699
it. But growing up, since YouTube's what I do,

02:12:05.760 --> 02:12:08.680
I should consume YouTube. So if I consumed movies

02:12:08.680 --> 02:12:10.220
or other stuff, I always kind of saw it as a

02:12:10.220 --> 02:12:12.699
waste of time unless it was culture. then it

02:12:12.699 --> 02:12:14.340
would make sense to watch it. It makes sense

02:12:14.340 --> 02:12:15.420
to watch Spider -Man, so I know what's going

02:12:15.420 --> 02:12:18.159
on in the world. But for the most part, for me,

02:12:18.159 --> 02:12:19.939
what's optimal is to just watch a bunch of YouTube,

02:12:20.060 --> 02:12:22.220
so then I better understand what's trending and

02:12:22.220 --> 02:12:24.100
how to make better videos and pacing and stuff

02:12:24.100 --> 02:12:26.689
like that. So you just, you're constant YouTube.

02:12:27.109 --> 02:12:28.850
Yeah. I'm not as much anymore, but when I was

02:12:28.850 --> 02:12:31.130
growing up, a hardcore, I would call it like

02:12:31.130 --> 02:12:32.689
an information diet. Like I would only watch

02:12:32.689 --> 02:12:35.149
YouTube. So I was constantly just ingesting like,

02:12:35.210 --> 02:12:37.670
you know, how to make better videos. That was

02:12:37.670 --> 02:12:40.489
your isolation diet, right? Yeah. Or, um, so,

02:12:40.590 --> 02:12:43.729
yeah. So when you, um, when you talk about Spider

02:12:43.729 --> 02:12:46.289
-Man, you can't not talk about the Into the Spider

02:12:46.289 --> 02:12:48.069
-Verse. Have you seen that one? The animated

02:12:48.069 --> 02:12:51.819
one? No? I've really only seen the newest one

02:12:51.819 --> 02:12:53.640
because it was so huge. Dude, the best one is

02:12:53.640 --> 02:12:55.279
Enter the Spider -Verse. Okay. Don't you think,

02:12:55.380 --> 02:12:59.140
Jamie? Yeah, well, I've - That one's the shit.

02:12:59.159 --> 02:13:00.680
But I haven't seen this one either, and I've

02:13:00.680 --> 02:13:02.920
heard it could win Oscars and whatnot, which

02:13:02.920 --> 02:13:04.699
the other one did win an Oscar, but they're talking

02:13:04.699 --> 02:13:06.590
like - This was such a good movie. There wasn't

02:13:06.590 --> 02:13:07.750
a lot of movies that came out there. The newest

02:13:07.750 --> 02:13:09.470
one? Yeah. Yeah, crushed it. It was phenomenal.

02:13:09.750 --> 02:13:11.810
And I didn't even watch the old Spider -Man's,

02:13:11.810 --> 02:13:13.489
and I feel like I understood everything. Well,

02:13:13.649 --> 02:13:15.850
I hope it wins an Oscar. I think this, from what

02:13:15.850 --> 02:13:17.909
I even heard, this is almost like a real action

02:13:17.909 --> 02:13:20.630
version of that animated one. Oh, yeah? Like

02:13:20.630 --> 02:13:23.050
there's verses that combine, and I don't know

02:13:23.050 --> 02:13:25.329
how visually. comparable it was. I don't think

02:13:25.329 --> 02:13:27.229
it's in 3D like the other one was. Well, the

02:13:27.229 --> 02:13:28.810
end to the Spider -Verse, the fact that it's

02:13:28.810 --> 02:13:30.770
animated, you could just do so much more with

02:13:30.770 --> 02:13:32.550
animation because you can get away with stuff.

02:13:32.890 --> 02:13:36.550
It doesn't have to be realistic. You don't have

02:13:36.550 --> 02:13:40.170
to have stunt people or CGI. It's all animated.

02:13:40.289 --> 02:13:43.449
I feel like animation does a better job of portraying

02:13:43.449 --> 02:13:45.350
emotion. I don't even know how to put it into

02:13:45.350 --> 02:13:47.390
words, but with movements and stuff like that

02:13:47.390 --> 02:13:51.039
because it doesn't have to be so realistic. Yeah,

02:13:51.199 --> 02:13:53.720
I'm kind of amazed that they don't have more

02:13:53.720 --> 02:13:58.939
feature -length animated movies. Oh, when is

02:13:58.939 --> 02:14:01.439
that coming out? Probably this year, later this

02:14:01.439 --> 02:14:04.039
year. Does it say? Oh, wow. It says October 7th.

02:14:04.380 --> 02:14:08.279
Oh, all right. Nice. But that's probably more

02:14:08.279 --> 02:14:10.439
an American thing because, like, you know, anime

02:14:10.439 --> 02:14:14.760
is exploding here. Right. I am surprised it hasn't

02:14:14.760 --> 02:14:16.960
seeped over more into just, like, the culture

02:14:16.960 --> 02:14:19.500
of what we consume here. Yeah, it's exploding

02:14:19.500 --> 02:14:21.180
on YouTube, too. I mean, it's like there's so

02:14:21.180 --> 02:14:23.680
much anime content on YouTube. Yeah. What is

02:14:23.680 --> 02:14:26.060
happening? How is that happening? Because that's

02:14:26.060 --> 02:14:27.960
another thing my kid's into. Yeah. I mean, I

02:14:27.960 --> 02:14:31.260
love anime because the stories are so weird that

02:14:31.260 --> 02:14:33.239
it inspires me. I feel like it's actually a really

02:14:33.239 --> 02:14:37.449
good way. to develop creatively. Death Note,

02:14:37.609 --> 02:14:39.949
have you ever heard of that? Yes. One of the

02:14:39.949 --> 02:14:42.409
biggest animes. The story is about a book that

02:14:42.409 --> 02:14:44.649
fell from the sky and you can write any name

02:14:44.649 --> 02:14:46.989
in it and they die. I watched that movie. Yeah,

02:14:47.010 --> 02:14:50.149
well, the anime is obviously better. The movie's

02:14:50.149 --> 02:14:52.069
good, though. Well, the anime, if you like that,

02:14:52.109 --> 02:14:53.609
you'd like the anime. It's 30 times better. Anyone

02:14:53.609 --> 02:14:55.890
who's seen the anime is just shaking in their

02:14:55.890 --> 02:14:58.710
boots because it's a common thing. Everyone hates

02:14:58.710 --> 02:15:01.630
the fucking movie. What? Yeah. Go to the movie,

02:15:01.729 --> 02:15:04.130
Jamie, because the movie is good. His anime dorks

02:15:04.130 --> 02:15:06.489
need to get out of the fucking house. I mean,

02:15:06.550 --> 02:15:09.069
you should try watch a couple episodes of the

02:15:09.069 --> 02:15:11.729
anime and see. It's like, it's the pacing in

02:15:11.729 --> 02:15:14.170
the anime. It's one of my favorite shows. It's

02:15:14.170 --> 02:15:17.859
really good. And just the, I don't know. I feel

02:15:17.859 --> 02:15:19.340
like it just moves so much better. The movie

02:15:19.340 --> 02:15:21.260
kind of made me cringe at a few parts. Really?

02:15:21.619 --> 02:15:24.600
Yeah. I mean, it was silly, but it was... That's

02:15:24.600 --> 02:15:26.039
the thing. It was a little bit more silly, whereas

02:15:26.039 --> 02:15:29.180
the anime is very serious. It really gets you...

02:15:29.180 --> 02:15:31.020
Because they essentially condense, what is it,

02:15:31.039 --> 02:15:33.420
dozens of episodes down to a two -hour movie.

02:15:33.579 --> 02:15:36.159
Right. And what's his name? William... What the

02:15:36.159 --> 02:15:38.340
fuck's his name is the voice of it? The voice

02:15:38.340 --> 02:15:41.840
of the demon. Willem Dafoe. Willem Dafoe, that's

02:15:41.840 --> 02:15:44.010
right. Yeah, he's in it. He's the voice of the

02:15:44.010 --> 02:15:47.010
demon. He's the guy that shows up when the dude

02:15:47.010 --> 02:15:49.529
starts putting names in the book and has people

02:15:49.529 --> 02:15:53.310
killed. The dude meets him in a laboratory. There

02:15:53.310 --> 02:15:56.630
he is. It's a cool -looking demon. Does it show

02:15:56.630 --> 02:16:01.149
it? Or did you skip ahead? There it is. No, they

02:16:01.149 --> 02:16:04.039
show it. They'll show it a little bit. But it's,

02:16:04.039 --> 02:16:05.680
I thought it was fun. Yeah, right there. But

02:16:05.680 --> 02:16:08.680
the point is, like, this, you know, the show,

02:16:08.840 --> 02:16:10.800
it's just something so different that you don't

02:16:10.800 --> 02:16:13.359
find here, right? At least when I grew up and

02:16:13.359 --> 02:16:14.619
I was watching a little bit of TV, it felt like

02:16:14.619 --> 02:16:16.319
it was just all, like, crime scene shows and,

02:16:16.319 --> 02:16:18.460
like, different variations. And it's like, or,

02:16:18.520 --> 02:16:20.239
like, game shows. It's all, like, the same tried

02:16:20.239 --> 02:16:22.300
and true shit. Where it's like, that's what I

02:16:22.300 --> 02:16:24.020
love about anime. It's just, like, you get stuff

02:16:24.020 --> 02:16:26.399
like that. Like, you'll never, ever, ever find

02:16:26.399 --> 02:16:28.840
anything like that over here. And there's...

02:16:29.069 --> 02:16:31.430
it's i don't know for me like that extra creativity

02:16:31.430 --> 02:16:33.569
is so much more entertaining it is weird though

02:16:33.569 --> 02:16:36.229
like i wonder what is it about japanese culture

02:16:36.229 --> 02:16:39.510
where they tapped into that and it's obviously

02:16:39.510 --> 02:16:43.639
very exciting to kids Yeah, people of all ages,

02:16:43.659 --> 02:16:46.440
to be honest. I mean, I don't know mass data,

02:16:46.540 --> 02:16:48.860
but just even the people I see, like everyone

02:16:48.860 --> 02:16:50.860
recently, even like a lot of YouTubers talking

02:16:50.860 --> 02:16:52.639
about to their audience, like, anime's exploding.

02:16:53.180 --> 02:16:56.040
It's very graphic, too, man. My kid, we were

02:16:56.040 --> 02:16:59.219
on vacation, and I always give her a hard time.

02:16:59.260 --> 02:17:00.940
I was like, which one are you watching now? And

02:17:00.940 --> 02:17:02.739
she's like, this one's called Demon Slayer. And

02:17:02.739 --> 02:17:04.700
she tries to explain to me, like, did you watch

02:17:04.700 --> 02:17:06.379
Demon Slayer? A little bit. I'm still working

02:17:06.379 --> 02:17:10.110
on it. It's super graphic. I watched it. I was

02:17:10.110 --> 02:17:14.510
like, Jesus. They really kill people. It's a

02:17:14.510 --> 02:17:18.409
wild, bloody mess. I know. I mean, that's what

02:17:18.409 --> 02:17:20.790
I love about anime is that for a lot of them,

02:17:20.829 --> 02:17:22.889
they don't hold back. I prefer that. But I guess

02:17:22.889 --> 02:17:25.069
for you and your stance as a father, it's a little

02:17:25.069 --> 02:17:27.790
different. Well, I don't want to protect her

02:17:27.790 --> 02:17:31.940
from fake violence. It's weird to me that she

02:17:31.940 --> 02:17:34.780
likes it. When you have children, one of the

02:17:34.780 --> 02:17:37.440
weird things is what disturbs them and what doesn't

02:17:37.440 --> 02:17:40.840
and why. What freaks them out and what doesn't

02:17:40.840 --> 02:17:43.520
freak them out. And what freaks her out or used

02:17:43.520 --> 02:17:46.399
to freak her out is realistic depictions of horror.

02:17:47.379 --> 02:17:51.200
I feel like, honestly, I'm the same way. You're

02:17:51.200 --> 02:17:53.000
saying that's not normal? No, no, I think it

02:17:53.000 --> 02:17:56.299
is. But anime, because it's not realistic, because

02:17:56.299 --> 02:17:59.829
it's clearly a cartoon. Yeah. Seems to be...

02:17:59.829 --> 02:18:02.229
It's like, who killed Kenny? Like, you bastard.

02:18:02.549 --> 02:18:04.629
Like, when South Park... When Kenny would die

02:18:04.629 --> 02:18:06.329
every... Do you not know fucking Kenny in South

02:18:06.329 --> 02:18:08.250
Park? I've heard the name Kenny. I've never watched

02:18:08.250 --> 02:18:11.930
South Park. Oh, no. Oh, no. What is happening

02:18:11.930 --> 02:18:15.110
here? Are we in an alternative universe? What

02:18:15.110 --> 02:18:18.010
planet are you from? You're talking to a YouTube

02:18:18.010 --> 02:18:20.790
baby. A guy... What? I saw South Park as a waste

02:18:20.790 --> 02:18:24.850
of time. He is younger than South Park, I do

02:18:24.850 --> 02:18:27.799
believe. Well, South Park's current. i know but

02:18:27.799 --> 02:18:30.440
i mean just uh it's still amazing right now so

02:18:30.440 --> 02:18:32.579
you've never seen the south park movie i've never

02:18:32.579 --> 02:18:35.340
watched south park oh my god you never seen when

02:18:35.340 --> 02:18:38.780
when you're a comedian like that's more relevant

02:18:38.780 --> 02:18:41.280
in your world i guess so i mean before i was

02:18:41.280 --> 02:18:43.719
a comedian i love comedy you don't love like

02:18:43.719 --> 02:18:47.899
did you ever see team america world police Nope.

02:18:47.899 --> 02:18:51.440
Jesus Christ! You know, and you're not... But

02:18:51.440 --> 02:18:54.020
basically, this is partly why I didn't have any

02:18:54.020 --> 02:18:57.399
friends growing up. I'm serious. You just YouTubed

02:18:57.399 --> 02:18:59.819
out. Yeah, no, that's the problem. Like, that's

02:18:59.819 --> 02:19:01.879
legit what you're experiencing. That's how I

02:19:01.879 --> 02:19:04.500
felt every day about every little thing throughout

02:19:04.500 --> 02:19:07.100
my teenage life. And that's why, like, I felt

02:19:07.100 --> 02:19:08.760
like I was a fucking freak because I was like,

02:19:08.799 --> 02:19:11.610
I just... Listen, man, I get it. No, but now

02:19:11.610 --> 02:19:14.409
I'm confident. I don't give a fuck. I find it

02:19:14.409 --> 02:19:16.649
funny. But that's what's interesting because

02:19:16.649 --> 02:19:18.829
when I was at a younger age, I didn't. It confused

02:19:18.829 --> 02:19:21.129
me, and I felt like a weirdo. And I say that

02:19:21.129 --> 02:19:23.069
for people who are hyper -obsessed listening

02:19:23.069 --> 02:19:25.670
because there are people listening to this who

02:19:25.670 --> 02:19:27.530
are probably a little bit younger that are hyper

02:19:27.530 --> 02:19:29.209
-obsessed over certain things and probably feel

02:19:29.209 --> 02:19:32.350
like that. I just surround myself with YouTubers

02:19:32.350 --> 02:19:34.430
and people that care about YouTube, so I don't

02:19:34.430 --> 02:19:36.090
have that problem. You know what I mean? But

02:19:36.090 --> 02:19:38.110
you just got to find those people that have those

02:19:38.110 --> 02:19:40.739
same... whatever, obsessions. You know what I

02:19:40.739 --> 02:19:43.399
mean? No, listen, it's obviously paid off in

02:19:43.399 --> 02:19:45.899
a huge way for you. I'm not in any way criticizing.

02:19:46.100 --> 02:19:47.620
No, no, I don't think you're criticizing. I just

02:19:47.620 --> 02:19:49.600
think it's so unusual. I just like bringing that

02:19:49.600 --> 02:19:51.979
up for people to hear because I'm serious. That

02:19:51.979 --> 02:19:54.799
was one of the things I just couldn't figure

02:19:54.799 --> 02:19:57.620
out growing up. I just couldn't find anyone that

02:19:57.620 --> 02:20:00.940
I related to. I was miserable, so fucking miserable.

02:20:02.440 --> 02:20:05.459
But it paid off. It did, and that's why I like

02:20:05.459 --> 02:20:08.159
saying that. But that's the thing. And this is

02:20:08.159 --> 02:20:10.639
the thing that gets covered in Outliers and gets

02:20:10.639 --> 02:20:12.440
covered in when a lot of people try to study

02:20:12.440 --> 02:20:15.059
hyper achievers. Like, what is it about these

02:20:15.059 --> 02:20:17.520
people that makes them so successful? And with

02:20:17.520 --> 02:20:21.000
you, it's clearly this singular dedication to

02:20:21.000 --> 02:20:22.899
content creation. Exactly. To the point where

02:20:22.899 --> 02:20:25.239
you don't even fucking watch South Park. Yep.

02:20:25.360 --> 02:20:27.360
Crazy. Where you give up everything, even if

02:20:27.360 --> 02:20:29.299
it means you don't fit in. Yeah. Which is what

02:20:29.299 --> 02:20:30.979
you have to do. But it doesn't seem like it's

02:20:30.979 --> 02:20:33.340
a sacrifice for you. That's the beauty of it.

02:20:33.440 --> 02:20:37.180
The beauty of your story is that there's... obviously

02:20:37.180 --> 02:20:40.260
discipline and obviously you work hard but it's

02:20:40.260 --> 02:20:43.860
love it's a passion it's you're clearly obsessed

02:20:43.860 --> 02:20:47.260
with this still all these years in top of the

02:20:47.260 --> 02:20:50.860
food chain you're still guns blazing and constantly

02:20:50.860 --> 02:20:53.680
trying to add add more to what you're doing thank

02:20:53.680 --> 02:20:56.889
you it's pretty dope dude i agree i don't I'm

02:20:56.889 --> 02:20:59.149
grateful, genuinely just grateful that I found

02:20:59.149 --> 02:21:01.430
what I loved. It's not like a broken record,

02:21:01.569 --> 02:21:05.530
but that's the type of shit they should teach

02:21:05.530 --> 02:21:07.829
in school. You should have classes helping you

02:21:07.829 --> 02:21:09.989
find what you love. Once you find what you love,

02:21:10.049 --> 02:21:12.149
you don't have to tell someone to study. You

02:21:12.149 --> 02:21:13.409
don't have to force someone to do it. They just

02:21:13.409 --> 02:21:15.430
do it because it's built in you. It's part of

02:21:15.430 --> 02:21:18.530
who you are. I couldn't agree more. But the problem

02:21:18.530 --> 02:21:19.889
is, like we were talking about earlier, that

02:21:19.889 --> 02:21:22.510
you have these... underpaid teachers who are

02:21:22.510 --> 02:21:24.469
not really engaged with what they're teaching.

02:21:24.590 --> 02:21:26.590
They're just kind of spitting it out in this

02:21:26.590 --> 02:21:29.110
large class. They're not connecting to the students.

02:21:29.110 --> 02:21:30.170
But even then, like what we're talking about

02:21:30.170 --> 02:21:31.969
here isn't even just supported in the curriculum.

02:21:32.170 --> 02:21:34.920
Right. And I don't know. See, that's why I'd

02:21:34.920 --> 02:21:36.680
have to do research. I don't know if everyone's

02:21:36.680 --> 02:21:38.100
like us and if they found what they love, they'd

02:21:38.100 --> 02:21:40.860
go all in or figure it out. But I don't know.

02:21:40.879 --> 02:21:41.899
I just feel like that's something that's just

02:21:41.899 --> 02:21:44.239
super just in general in American culture, like

02:21:44.239 --> 02:21:46.700
just that, like helping people find their passion.

02:21:46.780 --> 02:21:48.620
Because I feel like that's like that's just what

02:21:48.620 --> 02:21:49.979
holds so many people back. They're just doing

02:21:49.979 --> 02:21:52.319
shit they don't love. One hundred percent. But

02:21:52.319 --> 02:21:54.940
the question is, like, is there enough? passion

02:21:54.940 --> 02:21:57.559
projects out there for everybody to do what you

02:21:57.559 --> 02:21:59.719
do or to do what i do well the thing is to chase

02:21:59.719 --> 02:22:02.819
what they enjoy because i did youtube for no

02:22:02.819 --> 02:22:04.840
pay for years and i did it making hardly anything

02:22:04.840 --> 02:22:07.139
and i did this podcast for no money for years

02:22:07.139 --> 02:22:09.440
yeah this podcast cost me money for like the

02:22:09.440 --> 02:22:11.379
first five or six years that i was doing it exactly

02:22:11.379 --> 02:22:13.680
and so even if even if i was making minimum wage

02:22:13.680 --> 02:22:15.819
doing youtube i'd still be way happier than if

02:22:15.819 --> 02:22:17.200
i was making like three or four times minimum

02:22:17.200 --> 02:22:19.100
wage doing something else of course yeah yeah

02:22:19.100 --> 02:22:20.879
and so you also kind of have to factor that in

02:22:20.879 --> 02:22:22.739
whereas if you do what you love you don't necessarily

02:22:22.739 --> 02:22:25.149
need as much I think with a lot of people the

02:22:25.149 --> 02:22:27.030
problem is external pressures, like obviously

02:22:27.030 --> 02:22:29.209
your mom wanted you to go to college, and my

02:22:29.209 --> 02:22:32.329
parents didn't want me to do a lot of the things

02:22:32.329 --> 02:22:35.149
that I did. But luckily for both of us, we didn't

02:22:35.149 --> 02:22:37.770
listen. And I think that's the thing. But how

02:22:37.770 --> 02:22:40.889
do you transfer that to a child? How do you tell

02:22:40.889 --> 02:22:43.229
a young kid coming up, you've got to learn how

02:22:43.229 --> 02:22:45.329
to be stubborn, and you've got to learn how to

02:22:45.329 --> 02:22:47.530
know when you're right? You've got to learn how

02:22:47.530 --> 02:22:49.930
to chase down the things that actually excite

02:22:49.930 --> 02:22:53.850
you. The flip side, we took some big risks. I

02:22:53.850 --> 02:22:57.610
have a friend who I support. Similar thing, all

02:22:57.610 --> 02:23:00.750
in, $50 ,000 in debt, channel didn't take off,

02:23:00.870 --> 02:23:05.049
whatever. He quit and ruined his life. It's not

02:23:05.049 --> 02:23:06.770
all sunshine and rainbows. Not everyone's going

02:23:06.770 --> 02:23:09.489
to end up like us. I pay him $10 ,000 a month.

02:23:09.549 --> 02:23:12.760
He's good. He's not homeless anymore. So it's

02:23:12.760 --> 02:23:14.420
like, I don't know. I don't know where the line

02:23:14.420 --> 02:23:17.260
is, where we're not giving people advice that

02:23:17.260 --> 02:23:19.020
could potentially fuck them over. Because obviously,

02:23:19.120 --> 02:23:21.379
even though you might be less happy, you have

02:23:21.379 --> 02:23:23.280
a higher chance of not being homeless by being

02:23:23.280 --> 02:23:24.780
a sheep and doing that stuff. There's a thing

02:23:24.780 --> 02:23:27.000
like that with comedians, too, right? Because

02:23:27.000 --> 02:23:29.879
I have friends that I thought were really funny.

02:23:30.159 --> 02:23:33.760
And going back a decade ago, I remember hanging

02:23:33.760 --> 02:23:35.799
out with them at the comedy store going, 10 years

02:23:35.799 --> 02:23:37.200
from now, this person's going to be killing it.

02:23:37.299 --> 02:23:39.540
10 years from now, they're no better off than

02:23:39.540 --> 02:23:42.389
they were then. And I don't know why. And I don't

02:23:42.389 --> 02:23:43.950
know what it is. And they can be funny. I've

02:23:43.950 --> 02:23:47.219
seen them have really good jokes on stage. Pretty

02:23:47.219 --> 02:23:49.139
good stage presence, but for whatever it is,

02:23:49.239 --> 02:23:52.000
they've never been able to get that real traction

02:23:52.000 --> 02:23:55.479
and then just build on it. One of the things

02:23:55.479 --> 02:23:59.159
that I see with you is you have massive momentum

02:23:59.159 --> 02:24:02.219
and all this inertia that's going towards getting

02:24:02.219 --> 02:24:04.340
things done, and you keep building on it. You

02:24:04.340 --> 02:24:07.899
keep adding to the machine. Exactly. Some people

02:24:07.899 --> 02:24:09.979
don't do that for whatever reason, and I don't

02:24:09.979 --> 02:24:11.840
know if that's a teachable thing. Well, I mean,

02:24:11.840 --> 02:24:14.700
there's more to it. It's like my first brand

02:24:14.700 --> 02:24:16.500
deal. Everyone in the world is like, God. Just

02:24:16.500 --> 02:24:19.399
set the money aside. Put this in an IRA. Do this

02:24:19.399 --> 02:24:21.159
thing. And I'm like, no, I'm just going to go

02:24:21.159 --> 02:24:23.860
spend it on a video or whatever. People always

02:24:23.860 --> 02:24:25.840
want you to set aside money or de -risk things.

02:24:27.159 --> 02:24:29.860
It's like everything kind of points to you doing

02:24:29.860 --> 02:24:32.579
what's opposite of what's optimal. You know what's

02:24:32.579 --> 02:24:34.799
optimal for growing a business is hella risky.

02:24:34.959 --> 02:24:37.799
So it's like, I don't know. But also there's

02:24:37.799 --> 02:24:40.260
no real precedent. I mean, there is you now.

02:24:41.079 --> 02:24:44.879
But in the world of this content creator on YouTube,

02:24:45.059 --> 02:24:47.100
it's not like there's decades of history that

02:24:47.100 --> 02:24:49.260
people could study. Exactly. And that's one of

02:24:49.260 --> 02:24:51.340
the hardest things. If you're trying to become

02:24:51.340 --> 02:24:54.000
a great basketball player, get a fucking mentor.

02:24:54.139 --> 02:24:55.600
There's plenty of people who have spent their

02:24:55.600 --> 02:24:58.500
lives, NBA players or college players at a high

02:24:58.500 --> 02:25:00.500
level. Get a mentor. Anything you're doing, if

02:25:00.500 --> 02:25:03.379
there's someone who... If you can get a mentor,

02:25:03.479 --> 02:25:05.059
it's like fucking cheat codes. It's like that

02:25:05.059 --> 02:25:07.780
guy I took from $20 ,000 to $400 ,000 a month.

02:25:08.420 --> 02:25:10.819
That would take him like a decade on his own.

02:25:10.899 --> 02:25:12.979
I was like, here you go. Just do this once a

02:25:12.979 --> 02:25:15.180
week for eight months. And that's the thing.

02:25:15.219 --> 02:25:18.059
For what I did, no one has done it. And so there's

02:25:18.059 --> 02:25:19.920
never any point where I could have a mentor that

02:25:19.920 --> 02:25:22.139
could help me. And I don't even know what you

02:25:22.139 --> 02:25:24.000
were saying that inspired this. But it is something

02:25:24.000 --> 02:25:26.739
that's like a pet peeve of mine. Like, bro. A

02:25:26.739 --> 02:25:29.020
mentor is a fucking cheat code. If you're in

02:25:29.020 --> 02:25:32.100
an industry where you can get one, get one. A

02:25:32.100 --> 02:25:34.780
lot of people enjoy, if they're really passionate

02:25:34.780 --> 02:25:36.120
about what they do, they enjoy talking about

02:25:36.120 --> 02:25:38.000
it. They'll mentor you for free just because

02:25:38.000 --> 02:25:39.979
it's what they love. But what's fascinating about

02:25:39.979 --> 02:25:42.000
a guy like you is you didn't have a mentor and

02:25:42.000 --> 02:25:44.319
you became one. Exactly. You figured the system

02:25:44.319 --> 02:25:47.760
out. My point would be if I knew what I knew

02:25:47.760 --> 02:25:50.020
now like three years ago, I'd be on half a billion

02:25:50.020 --> 02:25:52.260
subscribers or whatever. My growth would have

02:25:52.260 --> 02:25:54.600
been so much more extreme. It's like knowledge

02:25:54.600 --> 02:25:57.739
is just so OP. And, like... I don't know. Just

02:25:57.739 --> 02:26:00.139
one of my things. I just really want to drill

02:26:00.139 --> 02:26:02.200
in your fucking heads. It's like if you're in

02:26:02.200 --> 02:26:03.920
an industry where there are other experts, just

02:26:03.920 --> 02:26:06.020
have them teach you what they just spent the

02:26:06.020 --> 02:26:08.319
last 20 years studying. Don't you go on your

02:26:08.319 --> 02:26:10.959
own 20 -year journey. Just learn from them. Then

02:26:10.959 --> 02:26:12.760
start your journey. You can learn so much from

02:26:12.760 --> 02:26:14.079
people that have already accomplished things.

02:26:14.219 --> 02:26:17.100
You can. But at some point in time, you also

02:26:17.100 --> 02:26:19.020
have to learn how to be yourself. Agreed. Yeah.

02:26:19.059 --> 02:26:21.600
You leverage it. You filter out the stuff you

02:26:21.600 --> 02:26:23.940
want to keep or whatever. But it's like, I don't

02:26:23.940 --> 02:26:26.579
know. It's just – there's – nothing more valuable

02:26:26.579 --> 02:26:28.840
in life in my opinion at least entrepreneurial

02:26:28.840 --> 02:26:31.360
wise uh than than having someone like that you

02:26:31.360 --> 02:26:33.879
know it's massive and it's also creates a community

02:26:33.879 --> 02:26:37.500
because like clearly you've done an amazing service

02:26:37.500 --> 02:26:39.139
for these people that you helped and they'll

02:26:39.139 --> 02:26:42.000
probably play it forward and if they pay it forward

02:26:42.000 --> 02:26:44.079
and then they do it for other people like i do

02:26:44.079 --> 02:26:46.840
that with comics and i see other comics do the

02:26:46.840 --> 02:26:49.159
same thing where they help other stand -ups and

02:26:49.159 --> 02:26:51.379
and and mentor them and take them on the road

02:26:51.379 --> 02:26:54.299
and give them gigs and give them advice and you

02:26:54.299 --> 02:26:57.010
see it grow and there's like a community that

02:26:57.010 --> 02:26:59.909
comes out of that that's also it's very valuable

02:26:59.909 --> 02:27:03.329
yeah and fun like new friends whatever fun friends

02:27:03.329 --> 02:27:05.530
good times like that's one of the cool things

02:27:05.530 --> 02:27:07.610
about your videos it's like it's not just you

02:27:07.610 --> 02:27:09.969
having fun you have this whole gang of friends

02:27:09.969 --> 02:27:12.850
and everyone's laughing and having a great time

02:27:12.850 --> 02:27:14.690
and you look down it's like 50 million views

02:27:14.690 --> 02:27:17.770
like holy shit I know which is beautiful on purpose

02:27:17.770 --> 02:27:21.950
and that That environment, that feel is so hard

02:27:21.950 --> 02:27:24.610
to get because, you know, most people want to,

02:27:24.629 --> 02:27:26.450
again, with these big projects, you want to script

02:27:26.450 --> 02:27:28.709
it because scripting gets budget down, gets filmed.

02:27:28.790 --> 02:27:30.750
You can take a 50 -hour shoot and reduce it to

02:27:30.750 --> 02:27:32.590
five minutes. Sorry, not five, five hours if

02:27:32.590 --> 02:27:34.969
you script it. You can also reduce your budget

02:27:34.969 --> 02:27:36.850
costs by like 60 % if you script shit. And so

02:27:36.850 --> 02:27:38.870
that's why you don't see a lot of stuff like

02:27:38.870 --> 02:27:41.569
what we do because no one wants to do it authentic

02:27:41.569 --> 02:27:44.049
and just like let shit happen. You know, things

02:27:44.049 --> 02:27:46.110
can go wrong or take way longer. They just want

02:27:46.110 --> 02:27:48.090
to script it and then give, you know, the boys

02:27:48.090 --> 02:27:50.010
lines and shit like that. part of the things

02:27:50.010 --> 02:27:52.010
going wrong in your videos is what makes it fun

02:27:52.010 --> 02:27:54.750
exactly yeah exactly and that's why i do it the

02:27:54.750 --> 02:27:57.250
way i do which is now it's more normal but when

02:27:57.250 --> 02:27:59.409
i was growing especially as i'm like bringing

02:27:59.409 --> 02:28:01.709
people from la like hey can you help me or other

02:28:01.709 --> 02:28:03.290
people try to help make this stuff happen it's

02:28:03.290 --> 02:28:06.670
like so unorthodox and like everyone every person

02:28:06.670 --> 02:28:08.450
has an idea of how you could like make things

02:28:08.450 --> 02:28:10.850
more efficient and there are always points back

02:28:10.850 --> 02:28:12.690
to like some form of scripting and it's like

02:28:12.690 --> 02:28:17.950
no fuck no go away yeah that's uh I mean, look,

02:28:18.069 --> 02:28:20.229
you've got a formula. And it's not even a formula.

02:28:20.229 --> 02:28:22.510
It's just authenticity. Exactly. Like Chris,

02:28:22.690 --> 02:28:24.250
one of the guys in the videos, he was my first

02:28:24.250 --> 02:28:26.389
subscriber. He's been my friend. It's not like

02:28:26.389 --> 02:28:28.209
I went to L .A. and hired some actor. He just

02:28:28.209 --> 02:28:31.149
literally, he's been day one. And then the other

02:28:31.149 --> 02:28:33.909
guy, Carl, he was my editor that Chris literally

02:28:33.909 --> 02:28:35.229
just became friends with. And Chris was like,

02:28:35.270 --> 02:28:36.510
I don't want to film unless Carl's around. I

02:28:36.510 --> 02:28:38.409
was like, well, fuck. All right, Carl, you're

02:28:38.409 --> 02:28:40.909
part of the team. And Chandler, the other guy,

02:28:41.049 --> 02:28:43.879
was my janitor. And we had him in a video because

02:28:43.879 --> 02:28:46.159
someone backed out or something. So we were like,

02:28:46.200 --> 02:28:48.000
fuck it. You're here. Just go in. And then he

02:28:48.000 --> 02:28:50.219
said one line like. It was a challenge where

02:28:50.219 --> 02:28:52.319
they couldn't leave a circle, or last to leave

02:28:52.319 --> 02:28:54.180
a circle wins $10 ,000. And he asked at one point,

02:28:54.219 --> 02:28:56.479
he's like, can I throw my poop at the other contestants

02:28:56.479 --> 02:28:58.579
to get them out? I was like, no. But people thought

02:28:58.579 --> 02:29:00.280
that was the funniest thing ever, that he would

02:29:00.280 --> 02:29:01.799
think about throwing his poop. And everyone's

02:29:01.799 --> 02:29:04.479
like, we want the poop guy back. And so my janitor

02:29:04.479 --> 02:29:06.739
ended up just, you know, and then he also became

02:29:06.739 --> 02:29:08.319
really good friends with Chris as well in that

02:29:08.319 --> 02:29:11.319
video. And so now my janitor is one of our people.

02:29:11.520 --> 02:29:13.479
And so it's like we're all just friends. And

02:29:13.479 --> 02:29:16.840
it's not like we're hand -selecting actors from

02:29:16.840 --> 02:29:18.579
L .A. or New York. It's literally just like.

02:29:19.120 --> 02:29:21.239
Just random guys from North Carolina that get

02:29:21.239 --> 02:29:23.040
along well. Well, I think that's why it works

02:29:23.040 --> 02:29:25.139
because no one feels like an actor and everyone

02:29:25.139 --> 02:29:27.399
feels like just a regular person having fun.

02:29:27.579 --> 02:29:28.899
I guarantee you they're all hanging out right

02:29:28.899 --> 02:29:31.040
now, just doing some dumb shit like watching

02:29:31.040 --> 02:29:34.799
anime or whatever. I know. I'm very grateful.

02:29:34.920 --> 02:29:37.379
How we've gotten this many years, this many videos,

02:29:37.459 --> 02:29:38.780
and they don't hate each other and they still

02:29:38.780 --> 02:29:41.719
are friends. It's – I don't know. I feel like

02:29:41.719 --> 02:29:43.079
I've gotten a little lucky there because they

02:29:43.079 --> 02:29:45.500
legit hang out and do stuff all the time. I think

02:29:45.500 --> 02:29:47.040
it's a little bit of trickle down from the top

02:29:47.040 --> 02:29:49.219
too because you're so generous and you're so

02:29:49.219 --> 02:29:51.500
friendly and you have such a good time and you

02:29:51.500 --> 02:29:54.559
do enjoy this sort of camaraderie. That – like

02:29:54.559 --> 02:29:59.100
all that kind of – it always is like whoever

02:29:59.100 --> 02:30:02.700
is like the head guy, it trickles down to everyone

02:30:02.700 --> 02:30:05.860
else in the environment. It really does. Like

02:30:05.860 --> 02:30:08.729
you set the tone. Yeah, I agree. I'm grateful.

02:30:08.989 --> 02:30:12.909
But it's like, again, I got a little lucky. I

02:30:12.909 --> 02:30:14.709
didn't hand select or anything. It's just like,

02:30:14.729 --> 02:30:17.010
oh, we're all friends. And somehow here we are.

02:30:17.229 --> 02:30:18.889
Now they all have millions of followers. We're

02:30:18.889 --> 02:30:20.930
all still friends, and they're not like divas

02:30:20.930 --> 02:30:22.649
or anything, and it's been good. Well, listen,

02:30:22.709 --> 02:30:25.610
man, it's awesome. I'm happy for you. I think

02:30:25.610 --> 02:30:28.069
it's cool as shit. I think it's an amazing example

02:30:28.069 --> 02:30:31.610
for people. And it's also for young people to

02:30:31.610 --> 02:30:34.030
realize that there is this path, and it's not

02:30:34.030 --> 02:30:40.430
just a path of like, moderate success. It's a

02:30:40.430 --> 02:30:43.670
path of massive success. Gigantic 224 million

02:30:43.670 --> 02:30:47.569
view videos. And it all is done by a regular

02:30:47.569 --> 02:30:50.729
guy. Yeah. You just – you have to just – and,

02:30:50.750 --> 02:30:53.770
you know, what is it? It's like if you don't

02:30:53.770 --> 02:30:55.270
find what you love, you're just not – you're

02:30:55.270 --> 02:30:56.690
going to quit before you get to that point. You

02:30:56.690 --> 02:30:58.690
genuinely have to find what you love. If you

02:30:58.690 --> 02:31:00.709
get any takeaway – sorry, it's like a habit to

02:31:00.709 --> 02:31:02.229
look at the camera. Go ahead. Look at the camera.

02:31:02.290 --> 02:31:05.190
Like you have to find what you love because if

02:31:05.190 --> 02:31:06.950
you find what you love and you obsess over day

02:31:06.950 --> 02:31:08.790
after day, week after week, month after month,

02:31:08.829 --> 02:31:11.010
year after year for a decade, you're going to

02:31:11.010 --> 02:31:14.430
achieve some form of success. But if you don't

02:31:14.430 --> 02:31:16.209
truly love it, you're going to quit way before

02:31:16.209 --> 02:31:18.340
you get like that compound. growth and and you

02:31:18.340 --> 02:31:20.819
really get ultra levels of success so in my opinion

02:31:20.819 --> 02:31:22.520
the easiest way to be successful just find something

02:31:22.520 --> 02:31:25.879
you truly love and yeah wise words for mr beast

02:31:25.879 --> 02:31:28.219
last question why mr beast where's that name

02:31:28.219 --> 02:31:32.159
oh you know xbox live like xbox yeah it just

02:31:32.159 --> 02:31:36.069
uh When I was like 11, I got, it was just like,

02:31:36.069 --> 02:31:39.250
it randomized. And it was like Mr. B6000. And

02:31:39.250 --> 02:31:42.549
so my username used to be Mr. B6000 on Xbox.

02:31:42.790 --> 02:31:44.069
And that's what I used on my YouTube channel.

02:31:44.290 --> 02:31:46.129
And then when I was like 14 or 15, I was like,

02:31:46.190 --> 02:31:49.110
why the fuck is there a 6 ,000 in this? But I

02:31:49.110 --> 02:31:50.770
was like, fuck. I don't know if it was getting

02:31:50.770 --> 02:31:52.229
like 100 views a video, but I was like, fuck.

02:31:52.350 --> 02:31:54.690
It's part of my brand. 100 views a video brand.

02:31:54.969 --> 02:31:56.350
Whatever the fuck that is. Like, I don't know.

02:31:56.489 --> 02:31:59.850
And I had like this, I removed the 6 ,000. Then

02:31:59.850 --> 02:32:02.129
I put it back. And I just like, every month I'd

02:32:02.129 --> 02:32:03.959
add. it back and remove it but then I dropped

02:32:03.959 --> 02:32:06.860
to 6 ,000 and it was just Mr. Beast wise words

02:32:06.860 --> 02:32:09.739
for Mr. Beast ladies and gentlemen thank you

02:32:09.739 --> 02:32:11.459
thank you for having me my pleasure it was a

02:32:11.459 --> 02:32:13.260
lot of fun I really appreciate it and congratulations

02:32:13.260 --> 02:32:15.180
now I don't have to keep listening to my fucking

02:32:15.180 --> 02:32:17.600
self sorry bye bye everybody