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Welcome to this curated educational transcript of the Joe Rogan Experience. In this session, we provide a deep-dive examination of the critical perspectives and historical dialogues presented in Episode #2115. Our mission is to offer a high-fidelity, searchable research resource for students of cultural history, emerging technology, and global discourse. This transcript has been specifically optimized for academic reference, linguistic study, and archival preservation regarding Women's Sports Advocacy, Title IX Legislation, and Fairness in Athletic Competition. Hello. Hello. Very nice to meet you. Yes, and

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you. You've been on a wild little journey, huh?

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A journey that I certainly never expected, never

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wanted, still don't want. So, yeah. Did you ever

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in your wildest dreams? think that you would

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have to be an advocate for women's sports? For

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sanity. No, no. Never did I imagine that anyone

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would have to be in the position that I'm in.

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Nevertheless, me. So like you said, it really

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has been a wild almost two years now. I graduated

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college, set to be a dentist in dental school.

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wanting to specialize in endodontics, which,

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weirdly enough, is root canals. So to say that

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this is a totally different path than I could

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have ever anticipated doesn't do it justice.

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Yeah, that's a minor understatement. Yeah, right,

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exactly. So walk us through the beginnings of

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this for you. What was your first introduction

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to this insanity of biological men? with gender

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dysphoria, trying to compete with women? So I'll

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take you through my kind of timeline here. Okay.

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Started swimming when I was four years old, right?

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I come from a family of athletes. So my dad was

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an NFL player. My mom, she played D1 softball.

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My oldest sister, she played softball. I went

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to Ole Miss. My brother, he's in college playing

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football now. All my uncles won Super Bowls and

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all this stuff. So come from a family of athletes.

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I started swimming when I was four, graduated

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when I was 22. So, you know, 18 years of my life,

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I really dedicated to my sport. Impossible to

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put in the words, you know, this, the time and

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the hours and the dedication and the sacrifices

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that it takes to compete and ultimately be successful

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at the highest level. But of course, I was willing

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to do this. I knew I had to. You don't get to

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go to prom. You don't get to have sleepovers

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with your friends on Friday night because guess

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what? Practice at 6 a .m. on Saturday. All of

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that to really say it's a lifelong journey. College

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rolls around. Truth be told, I really could have

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gone anywhere that I wanted to swim. I'm absolutely

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biased, and the SEC is the best conference. So

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I knew that was for me, but went to University

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of Kentucky. Could not have been a better place

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for me. Freshman year, right, there was a lot

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of adjusting. It was a lot of time and hours.

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I thought I worked hard before. I was wrong.

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We were in the water six hours every single day,

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with three of those hours being before 8 a .m.,

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right? So you practice from 5 a .m. to 8 a .m.,

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go to class, come back, practice again from 1

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.30 to 4 .30, ate your dinner, iced your shoulders,

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went to bed, did it all again the next day. We

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swim about 15 ,000 yards every single day, which

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is equivalent to like 10 -ish miles. So lots

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of adjusting. Sophomore year, still improving,

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though, still getting better. Sophomore year

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rolls around. We're, you know, I really started

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having this breakout season, started doing some

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pretty great things, really had finally developed

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like a sense of consistency, I think. In about

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three days. before we were supposed to leave

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for our national championships, which, of course,

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you know, the NCAA, think about basketball, the

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NCAA tournament, equivalent in swimming. We were

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ready to go, the meet you work all year, really

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all your life for. About three days before we

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were supposed to leave in March of 2020, our

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coaches pull us out of the water, sit us down,

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say, look, you know, if you live in the dorm

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rooms, pack your stuff up. You have to leave

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campus tonight. Of course, COVID had hit. I didn't

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really know what this meant at the time. There's

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still a lot of uncertainty around this. So I

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thought this meant we got a weekend off. We got

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to go home. We'd quickly return. But, of course,

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that was not a correct assumption because upon

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going back home, home is Tennessee for me, right?

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There were no pools open. There were no gyms

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open, nothing like that. And so every day I swam

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miles aimlessly in the lake. I'd put on a wetsuit

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and I'd jump in the boat dock and I'd swim down

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by Johnny Cash's house. And I came back and I

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did the same route every single day. Because,

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again, I knew that I had to if I wanted to continue

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this breakout season I was having my junior year

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or my sophomore year into my junior year. Right.

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And the amount of snakes that I swam by and like

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dead catfish that are floating on top of the

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water that like hit you in your face while you're

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swimming is not pleasant. But eventually we were

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able to come back junior year. We had to deal

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with all the COVID theatrics, which I'll be the

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first person to say that being a college athlete,

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really being a college student, I would argue

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being a human during the time of COVID was miserable,

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to say the least. But especially being an athlete,

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right, in terms of the mask mandates and the

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social distancing and the contact tracing and

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the mandatory vaccines, which. Have you ever

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seen a swimmer in the pool wearing a mask? I

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have. You have? I have. I watch videos of it.

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Well, we essentially waterboarded ourselves.

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It's so fucking stupid. Isn't it? It's so stupid.

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Isn't it? But dealing with all the theatrics

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outside of all that. Really, this was the year

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that I won my first individual SEC title. University

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of Kentucky won its first ever program title

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in school history. And ultimately, I concluded

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my junior year placing seventh in the country,

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which I was proud of, right? You're top eight.

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You're an All -American. It's a pretty high honor.

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But I knew right then and there that I placed

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seventh in the nation my junior year, that my

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senior year I had a goal of winning a national

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title. So that's kind of the backstory to it.

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to now kind of finding out about all this other

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stuff going on. Senior year rolls around. About

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midway through my senior year, I'm right on pace

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to achieve my goal. I'm ranked third in the nation

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behind one amazing female swimmer who I knew

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very well because, you know, like in most sports,

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your top -tier athletes know of each other regardless

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of where you compete because you've grown up

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competing against each other. So I knew this

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girl very well, trailing her by a few one hundredths,

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tenths of a second maybe. But the swimmer who

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was leading the nation by body lengths, might

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I add, which is a very large margin in swimming,

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right? A sport that's measured down to the hundredth

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of a second. This swimmer was leading the country

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by multiple seconds. Was a swimmer that I had

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never heard of before. And this is the first

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time that me and my teammates became aware of

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a swimmer named Leah Thomas. For all we knew

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at the time, right, keep in mind we hadn't seen

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a picture of this person or else things would

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have been a little more clear. For all we knew

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at the time, this was a senior from University

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of Pennsylvania, which is not a school that historically

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produces fast swimmers. Now I would argue is

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not a school that historically produces really

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anything good. Leading the nation by body lengths,

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ranging in events from the 100 freestyle. which

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is, of course, a sprint, and all the freestyle

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events in between through the mile, which, if

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you don't know swimming, think about this in

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terms of your Olympic runners, because that's

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like saying your best 200 -meter runner is your

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best marathon runner. You and I both know that

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that doesn't happen. They're two totally different

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systems. But that's what we were saying in this

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person. So I'm scratching my head. I'm talking

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to my coaches, my teammates. Who is this person?

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We had no idea. And we continued to stay in the

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dark until an article came out. And in this article,

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very briefly disclosed in a blip of a sentence,

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as if we were really supposed to just read right

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over it. It says Leah Thomas is formerly Will

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Thomas and swam three years on the men's team

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at University of Pennsylvania before deciding

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to switch to the women's team. And so when I

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read this, of course, I was shocked, naturally.

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But really, it was kind of like the sense of

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relief that I felt. Because at this point, I

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went to look up who Will Thomas was. Because

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admittedly, I was curious. You know, was this

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a lateral movement? Someone who went from ranking

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amongst the best of the men to now continuing

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to rank amongst the best of the women? Which

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is, of course, not what we saw, right? We saw

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that this was a mediocre man, and that's generous.

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at best ranking 462nd in the nation the year

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prior when competing against the men. But that's

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why I say I felt relieved because I thought that

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the NCAA would see this how I saw it and how,

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again, my teammates saw it, how my coaches saw

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it, how my family saw it, how anyone with any

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amount of brain activity would probably comprehend

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this. Look, nothing hateful about it, nothing

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even opinionated about it. the sheer facts on

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the paper in front of us that this was not a

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lateral movement by any means. But lo and behold,

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the NCAA did not see it that way. They saw absolutely

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nothing wrong with this. And so about three weeks

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before our national championships in March of

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2022, they released a statement saying that Thomas's

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participation in the women's category was a non

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-negotiable, basically saying that, look, there

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was nothing that we could do. As female athletes,

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there was no questions that we could ask or concerns

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that we could raise. We were told that we had

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to accept this with a smile on our face. So that's

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kind of the lead up to that national championships

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and really how myself and my teammates and really

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the nation, the world, actually found out about

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Leah Thomas. And I will say I'd heard of this

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happening in sports before, but I'd really only

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heard of it going the other way. Right. So women,

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females who wanted to self -identify as men,

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then going to compete in the men's category,

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which, look, I don't I didn't ever agree with.

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I never necessarily supported it. But maybe at

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the time I didn't see a problem with it. Right.

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Because no one's, I guess, competition, the men's

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competition isn't being threatened. So, you know.

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I thought it was dumb on the woman's behalf,

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but whatever. When did you see this from biological

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women competing as men? Actually, in the sport

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of swimming, again. There was a swimmer from

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Harvard by the name of Skyler Baylor. Competed

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on the women's team and then decided to switch

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to the men's team at Harvard. Isn't there an

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issue, though, with steroids? Because if you're

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going to compete as a man, that means you're

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biologically transitioning. That means you're

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adding exogenous hormones, which would mean that

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you're taking steroids. Right. And you're allowed

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to do that if you're a woman transitioning to

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a male? There was no – the Instablase policy

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at the time was 12 months of HRT, hormone replacement

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therapy, and you can compete in the category

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that best suits you. Right. So with Leah Thomas.

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I'm sure you got into this. What were the requirements

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that this 12 months? Is there an analysis of

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testosterone levels? It was just 12 months. That's

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it. That's the only standard. No threshold. No

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one is actually checking to see if this person

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is actually taking estrogen or taking testosterone

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blockers or doing anything. You just have to

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say you're on this program for 12 months. I believe

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so. Yeah. I'm not sure what the process looked

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like if if they talked to Thomas's doctors. I

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don't know. But yeah, the policy that was had

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been in place since 2010. So obviously this is

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a pretty old policy, 12 years at the time. That's

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what it stated. So that policy has been intact

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for 12 years. Correct. And now NCAA in true cowardly

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fashion is changing course. Right. They don't

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want. to be responsible. They don't want to be

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accountable for this. So what they're doing now

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is a phase out approach of this policy and leaving

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it up to each specific sport governing body to

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make their own rules. Right. So now for swimming,

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they would resort to looking at World Aquatics

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or FINA, which is the international governing

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body for soccer. They'd look at FIFA for rowing.

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They'd look at U .S. rowing. They don't want

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to blanket policy anymore. And again, they don't

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want to be responsible or accountable. So they're

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leaving it up to the governing bodies and what

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decision have the governing bodies made? Some

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have taken appropriate steps. I don't know of

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many sports that have been perfect, but swimming,

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for example, their policy now is if you've gone

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through male puberty, you can't compete with

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women, which they were really the first ones

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to take that bold first step in prioritizing

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fairness over inclusion. The policy insinuates

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if you have transition by the age of 12, then

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you can compete with the women, which is not

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satisfactory. Even taking puberty blockers before

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the age of 12, there are still advantages that

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males possess over females. And even if they

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didn't, it's the women's category. It's not for

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men. And then you have other sports that have

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gone the total opposite way. like soccer, for

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example, that leave it up to, you know, self

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-identification. Basically, you just compete

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where you feel best. Oh, how convenient. Isn't

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it? Which, at this national championships, right,

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this national championships where we had Leah

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Thomas, who is a male, a man, identifying, self

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-identifying as a woman. We were told we fully

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had to treat this person as a woman, right? The

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same national championships. We had another athlete

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who was transitioning. But this athlete is a

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female who was then self -identifying as a man

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from Yale. Izzy now goes by the name of Isaac.

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And we were told we fully had to treat this person

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as a man. Optics purposes here to give you perspective

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of what this looked like from our eyes. Okay,

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finals of the 100 freestyle. Top eight women

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in the entire nation. Air quotes women. Air quotes

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women. Yeah, for those that don't have video,

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air quotes women. Top eight women in the entire

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country. And you've got a 6 '4 man in a women's

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swimsuit with a bulge next to a woman wearing

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only a Speedo with nothing covering her top.

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Your reaction was my reaction, so I'm sitting

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there watching this. I'm thinking to myself,

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it's me. I'm the crazy one. It must be. This

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is the freaking Twilight Zone. How does the audience

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react to this? Like when Leah Thomas gets on

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the block, when they're about to start a race,

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how does the audience react to this? As you can

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imagine, right? Like there was a lot of silence.

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A lot of people didn't really know. What to do,

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what to say. There wasn't a lot of clapping.

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There was a lot of like protesters and like trans

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rights activists who were there who were being

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loud and the posters and blah, blah, blah. Lots

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of booing. Kelly J. Keene was there, who is a

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phenomenal women's rights activist out of England.

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And she was there and she I'll never forget.

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I'm standing on the pool deck. And at this point

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in time, like, of course, me and all my teammates

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and my coaches, we all knew this was wrong. But

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it's still. I didn't know how to talk about it

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or what to say or what outlet to go to. And I

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remember hearing her from the stands and she

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just said something that we were all thinking

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and she yelled so loud. He's a cheater. And I

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was like, oh, my gosh, I needed to hear that.

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So there was a lot of booing, as you can imagine.

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Lots of silence. And through this. So you have

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the loud trans rights protesters. And is there

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anyone countering that? Are there loud pro -women

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sports protesters? There were. Not as loud. If

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I'm going to be honest, not as ugly, which I

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think that gets a lot of media time when you

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have these men with beards and these big signs

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that certainly catches a lot of cameras. So they

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were definitely there. And looking back, like

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I said, like being able to see them, it inspired

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me. It gave me courage to be willing to kind

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of put my name and face to it because I was scared

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at first. Based on just kind of the silencing

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tactics that were used to keep us quiet, right?

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Like we were told, you know, you'll never get

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a job if you speak out about this. Your employer

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is going to look you up and see that you're a

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transphobe. And you don't want that, do you?

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You don't want everyone to think that you're

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transphobic. Was this a conversation that someone

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actually had with you? Yeah. I mean, we had to

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go to training, Joe, to learn how, again. How

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to accept that you're being cheated. A senior

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in college. Yeah. 21 years old. Yeah. They brought

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in an outside professional. Again, air quotes,

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because what in the world? How can you be an

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outside professional who sat us down and taught

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us how to use she, her pronouns? Again, a senior

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in college. I'm like, am I really? Taught you

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how. You. An actual she or her. An actual she

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or her. How do you use she or her pronouns? We

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had to go through these interview questions.

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They threw a question at us. If we didn't answer

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their fake interview question to their standard,

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we had to go through it again. Oh, my God. Yeah.

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Indoctrination. Thomas's teammates, right? Sixteen

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of these girls, plus their parents at the beginning

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of the season, signed on to a letter expressing

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their discomfort in the locker room. I kid you

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not. The university. responded back with, and

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I have a screenshot of their response. If you,

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as women, feel uncomfortable seeing male genitalia,

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here are some counseling resources that you should

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seek in an attempt to re -educate yourselves.

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Re -educate yourself. That's a she -ness. That's

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not a penis. That's a she -ness. Queeness penis.

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So does Leah Thompson have sex with girls? Leah

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Thomas, rather. Yeah. At the time. Again, this

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is what I know based off of what his teammates

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have told me and what really has been public

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knowledge based off what they post and different

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things. At the time of that national championships,

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he was still dating women and active with women.

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Sexually. So obviously has testosterone. Yes.

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But now, again, based off of social media, he

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is engaged to another man. who claims to be a

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woman so two men but they call themselves lesbians

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um so who knows but yes but at the time so yeah

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you're if you're on that team you're a woman

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and you have a biological male who's intact who's

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having sex with women walking around naked in

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the locker room with women and if you're uncomfortable

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with that you should educate yourself You said

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it. And learn how to use she, her pronouns and

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accept defeat. You said it. To this person that's

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not a woman. You said it. And the whole idea

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behind Title IX was supposed to be to protect

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women's sports. It was supposed to be to have

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a place where women can compete fairly against

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women. Yeah. And because of this insane cult

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that 45 % of the country is in or whatever it

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is, you have to deal with this literal mental

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patient. In a woman's sport dominating and everyone's

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cheering. Yes. And everyone around it that's

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watching it is upset. All the parents, probably

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on both teams. Of course. All the women that

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are competing with this man. And the whole world's

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like, yay, diversity. And you must feel like

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you're in a fucking movie or something. Well,

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I'll tell you. Really what had thrusted me over

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the edge into no longer being willing to lie,

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ultimately, is he and I raced in the 200 freestyle.

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This is the day after he swam the 500 freestyle

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and won a national title, beat out Olympians,

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beating out American record holders. Right. Keep

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in mind, these aren't scrubs. They're the most

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impressive and accomplished female swimmers this

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world has ever seen. And again, he beat them

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all by body lengths. One second might not sound

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like a lot of time, but in the sport of swimming,

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again, measured down to the hundredth of a second,

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one second is significant. He beat the entire

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nation of women by almost two full seconds. Even

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the time he went last year would have beat every

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girl in the country this past season by nearly

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two full seconds, making him the first man to

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win a Division I NCAA women's title trailblazer.

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But the second day of competition, the day after

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this, he and I raced in the 200 freestyle. So,

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look, we get on the blocks, dive off, swim eight

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laps of freestyle, touch the wall at the end.

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I look up at the scoreboard, and almost impossibly

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enough, Joe, we had gone the exact same time,

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meaning, of course, we had tied, which... One,

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it's incredibly embarrassing for a 6 '4 man to

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not even be able to beat a 5 '5 female. But again,

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going a minute and 40 -ish seconds and not even

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one one -hundredth separated us. You can't tell

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me that's not divine intervention. But tied.

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We get out of the water. We go. Yeah, you can

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see here we both went 143. 143 .40. Not one of

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us going 143 .39 or 143 .41 tying. Get out of

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the water. Go behind the awards podium. The NCAA

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official looks at both Thomas and myself. Thomas,

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who is towering over me, right? Six foot four.

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And this official looks at both of us and says,

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great job, you two. But you tied. And we only

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have one trophy. So we're going to give the trophy

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to Leah. Sorry, Riley, you don't get one. My

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heart rate was still high having just competed.

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My adrenaline was still pumping. And so the first

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thing that I thought ended up being the first

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thing that I said. And the first thought that

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I had was just what you had just said, right?

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Like, isn't this everything that Title IX was

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passed to prevent from happening? What do you

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mean you're going to give the trophy to the man

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in the women's 200 freestyle? I asked the question

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that no one dared ask all season. And I said,

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why? Which, of course, he didn't have an answer

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as to why. They didn't give him a script of what

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to say when someone asked you the dreaded question

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of why. And so his first excuse he came up with,

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he's stumbling on his words and he's, well, we're

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actually just doing this in chronological order.

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He said. And so I said, OK, do you mean alphabetical?

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Because G comes before T. Otherwise, I literally

00:24:57.470 --> 00:24:59.529
have no idea what you're being chronological

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about. Right. We tied. So, again, what's your

00:25:03.589 --> 00:25:07.650
rationale here? And finally, he realized that

00:25:07.650 --> 00:25:10.710
he didn't have a justification. He didn't have

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an answer for this. And so and I actually appreciate

00:25:14.390 --> 00:25:18.880
his honesty. This is when his face changed. He

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looked sad. His voice changed. I could tell he

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didn't even believe what he was about to say.

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But this official looked at me and said, Riley,

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I am so sorry. But we have been advised as an

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organization that when photos are being taken,

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it's crucial that the trophy is in Leah's hands.

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Again, you can pose with this one, but you have

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to give yours back. Leah takes the trophy home.

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You go home empty handed. End of story. We can

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eventually mail you one. Oh my God. Is what they

00:25:47.859 --> 00:25:49.940
said. So it was kind of, it was like that moment

00:25:49.940 --> 00:25:55.940
when I could, like I felt guilty at that point.

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I felt guilty for participating in the farce.

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I felt guilty for even getting in the water at

00:26:01.140 --> 00:26:04.960
this point. And so it kind of hit me. I won't

00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:07.500
say I was necessarily cowering because I didn't

00:26:07.500 --> 00:26:09.460
feel like that to me. I wasn't necessarily scared

00:26:09.460 --> 00:26:12.019
to approach the topic. I just thought someone

00:26:12.019 --> 00:26:15.619
else would. I thought a coach. would say something.

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I thought some other swimmer. I thought someone

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with political power, someone within the NCAA.

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Quite honestly, I thought someone's dad would

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come down there and yank this man out of our

00:26:26.099 --> 00:26:29.960
locker rooms. But it was in that moment where

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we were standing on the podium, myself included.

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I'm standing on the podium and we're clapping

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and we're smiling and we're cheering. And it

00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:43.710
hit me. I'm like. What in the world are we clapping

00:26:43.710 --> 00:26:47.170
for? Because, I mean, really what we're applauding

00:26:47.170 --> 00:26:51.509
is our own erasure, our own demolition. And so

00:26:51.509 --> 00:26:55.190
it was right then and there that, again, like

00:26:55.190 --> 00:26:58.390
a slap across the face, I was like, how in the

00:26:58.390 --> 00:27:02.769
world can we as women, as female athletes, expect

00:27:02.769 --> 00:27:06.450
someone to stand up for us if we aren't even

00:27:06.450 --> 00:27:08.670
willing to stand up for us? Like, this has to

00:27:08.670 --> 00:27:14.140
come from us. So again, I knew all season the

00:27:14.140 --> 00:27:16.519
unfair competition was wrong. I knew all season

00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:19.500
that the locker room aspect was wrong. I knew

00:27:19.500 --> 00:27:21.339
that the silencing that we were facing from our

00:27:21.339 --> 00:27:23.059
universities, I knew all of that was wrong. We

00:27:23.059 --> 00:27:26.720
all did. But it wasn't until this official reduced

00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:29.380
everything that we had worked our entire lives

00:27:29.380 --> 00:27:33.680
for down to a photo op to validate the feelings

00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:35.900
and the identity of a man at the expense of our

00:27:35.900 --> 00:27:40.660
own. That's really when I decided that I couldn't

00:27:40.660 --> 00:27:43.400
continue being silent. And so what was the first

00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:48.140
thing that you did? As you can imagine, there

00:27:48.140 --> 00:27:50.599
was a ton of reporters there, like I said, which

00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:53.980
swimming is not a sport that garners media attention.

00:27:54.460 --> 00:27:57.339
But this meet was unique because there was. And

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so my inbox. was filled with different reporters

00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:02.559
who had been reaching out to me from all the

00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:04.099
different outlets, left -leaning, right -leaning,

00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:07.059
everything in between, who were desperately hoping

00:28:07.059 --> 00:28:09.160
to get a quote or an interview that they could

00:28:09.160 --> 00:28:12.319
take back to their editor so they could have

00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:13.720
this story. Because up until this point, remember,

00:28:13.839 --> 00:28:16.559
really no one had spoken about this, at least

00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:19.880
not with their face and their name to it. Some

00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:22.559
people anonymously, even some of his teammates

00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.579
had spoken anonymously at this point. And so

00:28:26.579 --> 00:28:29.430
we had been... This training that we went to

00:28:29.430 --> 00:28:31.150
previously, I mentioned, where we had to learn

00:28:31.150 --> 00:28:34.730
how to use she, her pronouns. We were also told

00:28:34.730 --> 00:28:39.170
that any media opportunity that came our way,

00:28:39.210 --> 00:28:41.210
we had to forward on to our sports information

00:28:41.210 --> 00:28:43.690
director. Now, had this been the case in the

00:28:43.690 --> 00:28:46.380
past? They had never addressed this in the past

00:28:46.380 --> 00:28:48.819
because, again, swimming is just not a sport

00:28:48.819 --> 00:28:50.940
where this is ever. So you had never been contacted

00:28:50.940 --> 00:28:53.339
by the media previously in your career? I mean,

00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:55.660
I had done some stuff with ESPN and, you know,

00:28:55.720 --> 00:28:59.680
I broke the SEC record and all that stuff. And

00:28:59.680 --> 00:29:02.119
so that was a pretty big deal. And so there had

00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:05.619
been other. But all mild, like softball kind

00:29:05.619 --> 00:29:07.180
of thing. But there was nothing where you had

00:29:07.180 --> 00:29:10.380
to run it by other people before you were allowed

00:29:10.380 --> 00:29:12.319
to have these conversations. Correct. So this

00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:16.140
was the first time. Correct. And so. They told

00:29:16.140 --> 00:29:17.839
us, though, like, we'll help you coordinate.

00:29:18.299 --> 00:29:20.180
Can I ask you, can I pause you there? Come on.

00:29:20.259 --> 00:29:23.220
Do they have the right to do that? Is it anywhere

00:29:23.220 --> 00:29:26.720
established that they can dictate who you're

00:29:26.720 --> 00:29:28.859
allowed to communicate with in the media? Has

00:29:28.859 --> 00:29:30.539
this ever been an issue before where they can

00:29:30.539 --> 00:29:33.779
restrict your ability to communicate? Not that

00:29:33.779 --> 00:29:38.079
I know of. I will say, like, and I'll be honest

00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:40.539
here, like, my school, University of Kentucky,

00:29:40.779 --> 00:29:46.190
the athletic side. of the university and of this

00:29:46.190 --> 00:29:49.509
space treated me awesome. Like my athletic director,

00:29:49.690 --> 00:29:51.670
Mitch Barnhart at Kentucky, who's been there

00:29:51.670 --> 00:29:55.869
for 20 plus years, an incredible Christian, just

00:29:55.869 --> 00:29:59.029
an incredible standup guy who leads with, by

00:29:59.029 --> 00:30:01.269
example, he's a wonderful human. He's always

00:30:01.269 --> 00:30:04.690
been supportive of me. Not even necessarily my

00:30:04.690 --> 00:30:06.650
stance, but supportive of me, which means a lot.

00:30:06.869 --> 00:30:09.789
And my coach, Lars Jorgensen, who had coached

00:30:09.789 --> 00:30:14.200
there for 10 years at the time. amazing and supportive

00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:19.319
of me. But a lot of the kind of silencing and

00:30:19.319 --> 00:30:22.700
submission stuff came from the academic academia

00:30:22.700 --> 00:30:26.140
side or the compliance side of things. So my

00:30:26.140 --> 00:30:28.039
athletic side of my university was wonderful.

00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:32.900
But yeah, the compliance side. I was even told

00:30:32.900 --> 00:30:37.119
specifically, Riley, remember, you signed a scholarship.

00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:39.970
And when you sign that scholarship, They went

00:30:39.970 --> 00:30:42.450
as far to say you gave away your rights to speak

00:30:42.450 --> 00:30:44.289
in your own personal capacity. Remember, you

00:30:44.289 --> 00:30:46.869
represent us. Remember whose name is across your

00:30:46.869 --> 00:30:48.410
chest and across your cap because it's not your

00:30:48.410 --> 00:30:52.569
own. It's ours. This is specifically said. Yeah.

00:30:53.630 --> 00:30:55.529
They said we have already taken your stance.

00:30:55.569 --> 00:30:58.349
You signed away your rights to have your opinions

00:30:58.349 --> 00:31:01.289
on something that deeply affects your life's

00:31:01.289 --> 00:31:05.630
work. Right. For a university that's terrified

00:31:05.630 --> 00:31:09.920
of pushback. And understand. This is not specific

00:31:09.920 --> 00:31:12.299
to just the University of Kentucky. This is why

00:31:12.299 --> 00:31:16.720
there are so few voices really speaking out in

00:31:16.720 --> 00:31:19.819
my position. Right. Like young college age girls

00:31:19.819 --> 00:31:22.460
who have been impacted or affected by this. This

00:31:22.460 --> 00:31:25.740
is why so few are willing to take a stand is

00:31:25.740 --> 00:31:29.339
because it works. Look at what happened at Roanoke

00:31:29.339 --> 00:31:32.240
College in Virginia. It's the same story because

00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:34.039
it's always the same story where this mediocre

00:31:34.039 --> 00:31:36.660
man who swims three years on the men's team decides

00:31:36.660 --> 00:31:38.559
his senior year he wants to join the women's

00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:41.079
team to become a record smasher. Same thing happened

00:31:41.079 --> 00:31:45.000
there. These girls, they're getting in contact

00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:48.420
with me saying, hey, this boy on the boys team

00:31:48.420 --> 00:31:51.660
wants to join the women's team. But they told

00:31:51.660 --> 00:31:54.420
me that they got to vote on if they wanted him

00:31:54.420 --> 00:31:58.220
on the team or not. And so these girls, you know,

00:31:58.220 --> 00:32:00.079
they're talking to me. They're like, yeah, there's

00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:02.819
17 of us on the team and all 17 of us are going

00:32:02.819 --> 00:32:04.859
to say no. And I was like, that's great. You

00:32:04.859 --> 00:32:07.240
know, we haven't seen really unity in this topic

00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:09.220
amongst the whole team. So that's wonderful.

00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:14.240
And so they go into their meeting where they

00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:17.339
were told they got to anonymously vote. The coach

00:32:17.339 --> 00:32:20.140
walks in. Has the boy with him. He says, hey,

00:32:20.279 --> 00:32:22.420
I know I told you the vote was going to be anonymous,

00:32:22.539 --> 00:32:24.259
but it's actually going to be by show of hands.

00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:26.940
And I'm going to let the boy here give a speech

00:32:26.940 --> 00:32:30.420
before. So the boy gets up, gives us talk, and

00:32:30.420 --> 00:32:33.380
he says, hey, if you don't vote yes, I will kill

00:32:33.380 --> 00:32:36.140
myself and it will be your fault. So as you can

00:32:36.140 --> 00:32:40.920
imagine, 13 of those 17 girls changed their vote

00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:44.680
to yes. And it's because they were told they

00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:47.450
were going to be a murderer. And three of them

00:32:47.450 --> 00:32:50.809
are like, go ahead, kill yourself. But honestly,

00:32:50.990 --> 00:32:52.410
like, think about that, though. That's a crazy

00:32:52.410 --> 00:32:55.670
thing to say. They're equating advocating for

00:32:55.670 --> 00:32:58.309
fair play and privacy in areas of undressing

00:32:58.309 --> 00:33:02.250
with having blood on your hands. Yeah. Same thing

00:33:02.250 --> 00:33:06.359
that Leah Thomas' school, UPenn. told those girls

00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:08.480
that if they do speak out and any harm whatsoever

00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:12.180
comes towards his way, whether it's through social

00:33:12.180 --> 00:33:15.059
media, through emotional harm, physical harm,

00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:17.299
self -inflicted for that matter, they told these

00:33:17.299 --> 00:33:19.259
girls that they would solely be responsible.

00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:22.000
That would make them a potential murderer. And

00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.539
you don't want to be a potential murderer, do

00:33:24.539 --> 00:33:27.500
you? No, so I suggest you be kind and I suggest

00:33:27.500 --> 00:33:31.619
you be inclusive. God, that is so insane. It

00:33:31.619 --> 00:33:34.839
had to feel like a Twilight Zone. It did. I mean,

00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:37.779
this whole process, even even looking back now

00:33:37.779 --> 00:33:40.740
and maybe at the time, like I didn't necessarily

00:33:40.740 --> 00:33:44.220
see it for exactly what it is. Having really

00:33:44.220 --> 00:33:47.059
removed myself from the situation now and looking

00:33:47.059 --> 00:33:51.500
back, it's like, whoa, how did they get us all

00:33:51.500 --> 00:33:54.599
to not that I ever conformed again? I never thought

00:33:54.599 --> 00:33:57.819
this was right. But I mean, we went along with

00:33:57.819 --> 00:34:01.519
it. Right. And how in the world did they manage

00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:04.900
to achieve that? And I think a lot of this truly,

00:34:04.980 --> 00:34:07.059
again, being a college athlete during the time

00:34:07.059 --> 00:34:10.579
of COVID, I think that's when they learned they

00:34:10.579 --> 00:34:12.920
could control us. Because, again, our universities

00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:18.059
told us during that time, my junior year, the

00:34:18.059 --> 00:34:20.599
vaccines were mandatory. You had to get the vaccine.

00:34:21.860 --> 00:34:23.900
Me, look, at this point, I'd already had COVID,

00:34:24.019 --> 00:34:26.380
right? I had the natural, I had the antibodies,

00:34:26.539 --> 00:34:28.719
which I thought was the best natural immunity.

00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:32.440
I'm young. I'm healthy. I'm not anti -vax or

00:34:32.440 --> 00:34:34.639
anything like that. But I just didn't really

00:34:34.639 --> 00:34:37.639
see the point of me getting the COVID vaccine.

00:34:38.300 --> 00:34:41.900
And so I said, no. I said, I'm not getting that.

00:34:42.019 --> 00:34:44.820
They said, Riley, remember, you're the team captain.

00:34:45.699 --> 00:34:48.980
You're going to be hurting your team if you don't

00:34:48.980 --> 00:34:50.940
get it. And you're supposed to be the leader,

00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:53.679
Riley. And so I really struggled with this because

00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:55.659
I didn't want to be hurting my team. Before my

00:34:55.659 --> 00:34:57.559
own personal success, I cared about how my team

00:34:57.559 --> 00:35:00.309
did, how my teammates did. And so I really struggled

00:35:00.309 --> 00:35:03.230
with this. But finally, I realized, you know,

00:35:03.329 --> 00:35:08.110
mandatory didn't actually mean law. It doesn't

00:35:08.110 --> 00:35:10.929
actually mean required. And so I stood my ground.

00:35:11.030 --> 00:35:13.210
But truthfully, I think that's the first time

00:35:13.210 --> 00:35:16.030
that I learned how to stand up for myself. And

00:35:16.030 --> 00:35:19.449
I think that incident and really the whole COVID

00:35:19.449 --> 00:35:22.889
thing helped me stand up for myself in my senior

00:35:22.889 --> 00:35:24.769
year when, again, the same tactics, the same

00:35:24.769 --> 00:35:28.050
emotional blackmail and gaslighting. really,

00:35:28.050 --> 00:35:30.530
that they were using, I think it helped me my

00:35:30.530 --> 00:35:33.809
senior year too. Well, I'm sure it helped you

00:35:33.809 --> 00:35:37.110
see the world now that you're out in a different

00:35:37.110 --> 00:35:41.260
light. Definitely. It's a cult. I mean, and that's

00:35:41.260 --> 00:35:43.320
really what it is. And it doesn't make sense

00:35:43.320 --> 00:35:45.920
to anybody who's not in the cult. But the people

00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:47.900
in the cult, they'll use terms like when that

00:35:47.900 --> 00:35:50.820
person said, if you don't vote for me, I'm going

00:35:50.820 --> 00:35:54.940
to kill myself. They use these very sneaky terms

00:35:54.940 --> 00:35:59.619
like life -saving, gender -affirming care in

00:35:59.619 --> 00:36:01.800
regards to castrating children and putting them

00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:05.139
on hormone blockers. removing their breasts they

00:36:05.139 --> 00:36:09.260
use this crazy term that seems like well it's

00:36:09.260 --> 00:36:12.760
got to be good it's life -saving gender affirming

00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:18.139
but really like think about the message that

00:36:18.139 --> 00:36:20.840
even just the verbiage of gender affirming care

00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:23.139
sins whether it's to a minor or anyone for that

00:36:23.139 --> 00:36:26.880
matter right we're telling them especially kids

00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:29.780
we're telling them that they're correct to feel

00:36:29.780 --> 00:36:31.940
as if they were born in the wrong body which

00:36:31.940 --> 00:36:35.530
what a terrible What a terrible message. We should

00:36:35.530 --> 00:36:37.889
be telling them that they're perfect just the

00:36:37.889 --> 00:36:40.150
way God created them. That's what we should be

00:36:40.150 --> 00:36:42.829
telling these kids. But that's not the message

00:36:42.829 --> 00:36:45.329
that they're being sent. No, it's one of the

00:36:45.329 --> 00:36:52.010
most bizarre things. And even this verbiage of

00:36:52.010 --> 00:36:54.750
sex reassignment surgery, it sounds harmless.

00:36:55.130 --> 00:36:59.090
But when you say it, it's as if you're subconsciously

00:36:59.090 --> 00:37:01.110
admitting that you can, in fact, reassign your

00:37:01.110 --> 00:37:05.469
sex. which is so detrimental to the English language.

00:37:05.730 --> 00:37:08.869
And we're playing into their game when we use

00:37:08.869 --> 00:37:10.789
that verbiage, even the verbiage of biological

00:37:10.789 --> 00:37:13.929
woman. I've got such a problem with, and I didn't

00:37:13.929 --> 00:37:16.489
always because, again, I thought I had to make

00:37:16.489 --> 00:37:19.110
the distinction, right? I am a biological female.

00:37:19.230 --> 00:37:23.510
Thomas is a biological male. I had to take a

00:37:23.510 --> 00:37:26.449
lot of math courses, upper level math courses

00:37:26.449 --> 00:37:29.130
in college. And so I'm sitting there one day

00:37:29.130 --> 00:37:31.530
and I'm like, If this was an algebra equation,

00:37:31.809 --> 00:37:33.530
wouldn't those words biological just like cancel

00:37:33.530 --> 00:37:35.230
each other out? Like, why are we saying that?

00:37:35.530 --> 00:37:40.050
And then it hit me. I'm like, how silly and redundant

00:37:40.050 --> 00:37:43.150
as if I have to add that prerequisite of biological

00:37:43.150 --> 00:37:46.030
to declare I'm a biological being. That's so

00:37:46.030 --> 00:37:49.949
dumb, quite frankly. And when we say it, it's

00:37:49.949 --> 00:37:53.170
as if we're subconsciously admitting that there's

00:37:53.170 --> 00:37:56.590
an unbiological alternative to being a man or

00:37:56.590 --> 00:37:58.409
a woman or a male or a female or girl or boy.

00:37:58.550 --> 00:38:01.619
And there's not. Right. So, yeah. Did you ever

00:38:01.619 --> 00:38:04.380
see that interview where that bike racer is talking

00:38:04.380 --> 00:38:06.460
to one of the late night hosts and they were

00:38:06.460 --> 00:38:09.980
Veronica Ivy, biological women. Come on. And

00:38:09.980 --> 00:38:14.199
she's like, well, I am a biological human being

00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:16.920
and I am a woman. So I'm a biological woman.

00:38:16.980 --> 00:38:20.400
And the host is just like, yep. Yeah. Fucking

00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:22.360
cowards. You're not saying anything. Totally.

00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:24.639
None of that seems nuts to you. Totally. And

00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:27.150
that's that's. That's the game that's being played

00:38:27.150 --> 00:38:29.510
here, right? You give an inch, they take a mile,

00:38:29.730 --> 00:38:33.210
which is why I've really realized now like how

00:38:33.210 --> 00:38:37.050
powerful language, our language is and the words

00:38:37.050 --> 00:38:39.789
that we use. Like I'm very particular about what

00:38:39.789 --> 00:38:44.210
I say. Like I won't call, I'll call, I try and

00:38:44.210 --> 00:38:48.090
just call Thomas, Thomas, but people can legally

00:38:48.090 --> 00:38:50.449
change their name and like whatever, whatever.

00:38:51.590 --> 00:38:53.889
But that's a guy. But I'm not calling him she.

00:38:54.429 --> 00:38:57.809
I'm not calling him her. It's silly. It's silly.

00:38:57.909 --> 00:39:00.190
And I won't say trans woman because, again, that's

00:39:00.190 --> 00:39:02.090
admitting that this is some sort of subcategory

00:39:02.090 --> 00:39:06.349
of a woman. He's just a man. The Thais have had

00:39:06.349 --> 00:39:09.289
it right forever. They don't pretend that they're

00:39:09.289 --> 00:39:10.989
women. They said, I'm a lady boy. I'm a lady

00:39:10.989 --> 00:39:13.329
boy. Yeah. And that's like, OK. It's like an

00:39:13.329 --> 00:39:18.389
accepted category. Yeah. Yeah. No, exactly. Transparency.

00:39:18.469 --> 00:39:23.599
So, yeah. All of that to say. To get back to

00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:27.380
the very first question, never in my short 23

00:39:27.380 --> 00:39:31.000
years would I have imagined that it's necessary

00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:34.960
to take the steps and the actions that we're

00:39:34.960 --> 00:39:38.260
taking, to even have to define this word woman.

00:39:38.500 --> 00:39:42.039
But we've reached a point now where not only

00:39:42.039 --> 00:39:45.199
is it necessary, I would argue that it's urgent

00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:49.239
we define this word. In the nearly 250 -ish years

00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:51.519
we've been established as a country, we have

00:39:51.519 --> 00:39:54.590
never struggled. to define this word. Yet here

00:39:54.590 --> 00:39:58.269
in 2024, we have a sitting Supreme Court justice

00:39:58.269 --> 00:40:00.570
who can't even answer what a woman is because

00:40:00.570 --> 00:40:03.130
she claims she's not a biologist. Well, guess

00:40:03.130 --> 00:40:04.690
what? I'm not a veterinarian, but I know what

00:40:04.690 --> 00:40:06.590
a dog is. That's the stupidest thing I've ever

00:40:06.590 --> 00:40:09.829
heard in my life. It's a very dumb conversation.

00:40:10.110 --> 00:40:14.150
It is. And so a big piece of what I've been working

00:40:14.150 --> 00:40:16.510
on, I've been working with Independent Women's

00:40:16.510 --> 00:40:20.550
Forum to develop and create a new piece of legislation.

00:40:21.500 --> 00:40:24.659
That does just that, define the word woman and

00:40:24.659 --> 00:40:28.320
other sex -based terms in statute. It's been

00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:31.480
passed now in four different states, Kansas,

00:40:31.619 --> 00:40:34.179
Tennessee, Oklahoma, and Nebraska, both Oklahoma

00:40:34.179 --> 00:40:36.679
and Nebraska by executive order, which great

00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:39.099
leadership by Governor Pillen and Governor Stitt

00:40:39.099 --> 00:40:41.760
of Oklahoma. It's tracking in like 13 different

00:40:41.760 --> 00:40:45.980
states right now. So, again, all of that to say

00:40:45.980 --> 00:40:49.739
it's a telltale sign of where we are. as a nation

00:40:49.739 --> 00:40:53.019
when we have to do what we're doing? Well, it's

00:40:53.019 --> 00:40:56.119
it's requiring a lot more pushback than most

00:40:56.119 --> 00:40:59.559
people are willing to do. Yeah. Because the activists

00:40:59.559 --> 00:41:02.920
on the side of promoting this nonsense are very

00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:05.099
loud and they've made it their entire identity

00:41:05.099 --> 00:41:07.840
to get this across. And they also connect themselves

00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:12.619
to the idea of this air quotes progress being

00:41:12.619 --> 00:41:14.940
ubiquitous, that it spreads across the country

00:41:14.940 --> 00:41:19.300
and that this is this is. For them, a sign that

00:41:19.300 --> 00:41:22.500
the world is moving in the right direction. So

00:41:22.500 --> 00:41:26.420
they're like vehemently opposed to any pushback

00:41:26.420 --> 00:41:28.719
against this. And they're really aggressive.

00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:31.099
They are. But everyone on the side, it's like,

00:41:31.139 --> 00:41:33.659
this is fucking crazy. Most of those people have

00:41:33.659 --> 00:41:38.320
jobs and families. And they're fucking busy.

00:41:38.500 --> 00:41:42.320
And they do not have time to sit at a council

00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:45.059
meeting with these fucking lunatics. 12 p .m.

00:41:45.059 --> 00:41:48.159
on a Monday, right? I know. And have them scream

00:41:48.159 --> 00:41:50.420
into microphones, you're committing transgenocide.

00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:52.699
And you're like, oh, okay, what the fuck? What

00:41:52.699 --> 00:41:55.820
is this? What is this and how did this get started?

00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:58.119
It's like a zombie disease that made its way

00:41:58.119 --> 00:41:59.780
across the entire country. And it was like, oh,

00:41:59.780 --> 00:42:02.039
who got bit first? Exactly. Can we figure out

00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:04.739
what the fuck happened here? Who's doing this?

00:42:04.940 --> 00:42:08.389
How is it? possible that anyone with children

00:42:08.389 --> 00:42:12.789
anyone who's a father who has daughters is okay

00:42:12.789 --> 00:42:16.809
with this how is that possible this is nonsense

00:42:16.809 --> 00:42:21.110
at the highest level and even though it's completely

00:42:21.110 --> 00:42:24.369
it's not like close you know it's not like well

00:42:24.369 --> 00:42:26.929
i kind of see their point no it's not even remotely

00:42:26.929 --> 00:42:31.809
close and yet it has been taken up by a giant

00:42:31.809 --> 00:42:34.329
swath of the greatest country the world has ever

00:42:34.329 --> 00:42:36.699
known Like that is very bizarre. What I was going

00:42:36.699 --> 00:42:39.480
to say earlier is Douglas Murray, who's the British

00:42:39.480 --> 00:42:42.059
intellectual, is a brilliant guy. And he said

00:42:42.059 --> 00:42:45.280
this. And when he first he started saying it

00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:48.219
years ago, he's like, whenever a civilization

00:42:48.219 --> 00:42:51.300
is in collapse, they become obsessed with gender.

00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:53.980
It becomes a thing. It was with the Greeks and

00:42:53.980 --> 00:42:57.840
the Romans. It's like it seems to be like a symptom.

00:42:57.940 --> 00:43:00.400
Step in the process. Yeah. It's a thing like,

00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:03.500
oh, see those hives that you have? Oh, you're

00:43:03.500 --> 00:43:06.780
infected. Oh, you're sick. Oh, you're you're

00:43:06.780 --> 00:43:08.820
you're everyone's like changing their gender.

00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:11.400
And you got 50 percent of kids in some colleges

00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:18.559
or LBGTQ2QIAS. What? How is it 50 percent? This

00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:20.780
is a fucking mind virus. Like what is going on

00:43:20.780 --> 00:43:24.119
here? And what Douglas has said is that this

00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:26.239
you could find this throughout history. Of course.

00:43:26.460 --> 00:43:28.840
And honestly, if you take all of the different

00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:32.659
little pieces of what we're seeing. especially

00:43:32.659 --> 00:43:34.980
as it pertains to the cultural issues that are

00:43:34.980 --> 00:43:37.519
really plaguing this country. If you look at

00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:42.739
the denial of objective truth, the shift in our

00:43:42.739 --> 00:43:45.179
language, like we mentioned, the breakdown of

00:43:45.179 --> 00:43:47.820
faith. We used to be a country that proudly said,

00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:50.619
in God we trust, in one nation under God. You

00:43:50.619 --> 00:43:53.400
look at the breakdown of the nuclear family.

00:43:53.949 --> 00:43:56.449
and really pinning parents and kids against each

00:43:56.449 --> 00:43:58.789
other. You look at the breakdown of our freedoms,

00:43:58.829 --> 00:44:02.309
such as the freedom of speech. You look at the

00:44:02.309 --> 00:44:05.570
propaganda that's being spread through the media.

00:44:05.730 --> 00:44:07.969
I mean, the list goes on of all of these different

00:44:07.969 --> 00:44:13.130
little things. If you put them together, it points

00:44:13.130 --> 00:44:16.809
in one direction. And that direction, not to

00:44:16.809 --> 00:44:20.050
sound conspiracist or crazy here, is truly Marxism.

00:44:22.510 --> 00:44:25.070
Right. Like you talk to someone from North Korea

00:44:25.070 --> 00:44:28.489
or China or Germany or Cuba or Brazil or Venezuela

00:44:28.489 --> 00:44:30.989
or Russia or any of these countries that have

00:44:30.989 --> 00:44:33.769
once embraced this socialist, communist, Marxist

00:44:33.769 --> 00:44:36.489
regime. And they will tell you that it's a slippery

00:44:36.489 --> 00:44:39.469
slope and it's a slippery slope. But by the hands

00:44:39.469 --> 00:44:41.949
and feet of our own leaders, the people in the

00:44:41.949 --> 00:44:46.070
White House, we are actively being led down.

00:44:47.369 --> 00:44:52.590
And like you said, sex. The most basic of truths,

00:44:52.829 --> 00:44:55.269
the sheer essence of humanity, hate to break

00:44:55.269 --> 00:44:59.070
it to you, myself, every single person watching

00:44:59.070 --> 00:45:02.150
and listening. You're all here for man and woman.

00:45:02.769 --> 00:45:06.230
And so being asked to deny that is as if we're

00:45:06.230 --> 00:45:10.349
being asked to deny that the sky is blue or being

00:45:10.349 --> 00:45:13.329
told to say two plus two is five. And if anyone

00:45:13.329 --> 00:45:17.670
has read 1984 or look had a brief understanding

00:45:17.670 --> 00:45:20.449
of history, like you said. You will understand

00:45:20.449 --> 00:45:23.130
what it means when we start saying two plus two

00:45:23.130 --> 00:45:28.610
is five. It's a pretty scary, chilling thought,

00:45:28.750 --> 00:45:32.690
really. Well, if they can get you to give up

00:45:32.690 --> 00:45:36.030
one of the most basic things. There's no limits.

00:45:36.210 --> 00:45:40.329
Yes. There's no limits. Exactly. And I agree

00:45:40.329 --> 00:45:42.289
with you that it did start during COVID because

00:45:42.289 --> 00:45:46.630
it started during this exercise of control. and

00:45:46.630 --> 00:45:49.070
mandating things. Yeah, and they didn't do it

00:45:49.070 --> 00:45:51.349
based on any data. They didn't do it especially

00:45:51.349 --> 00:45:54.329
with young athletes, especially with young athletes.

00:45:54.489 --> 00:45:58.170
What they did to do is do that so that if you

00:45:58.170 --> 00:46:00.710
can get compliance with absolutely everybody,

00:46:00.989 --> 00:46:03.630
so if you can get the people who don't need this

00:46:03.630 --> 00:46:06.989
medication at all to mandate it for children.

00:46:07.610 --> 00:46:10.949
for young, healthy athletes, for people that

00:46:10.949 --> 00:46:14.409
have zero fear of dying from COVID. And if you

00:46:14.409 --> 00:46:17.329
can force them into doing it, you can kind of

00:46:17.329 --> 00:46:19.210
force them to do a lot of things. If you can

00:46:19.210 --> 00:46:22.469
force them to, like, accept the most chaotic

00:46:22.469 --> 00:46:25.760
notion. Like that we shouldn't have a border

00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:28.440
and just let people run through. And if it's

00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:31.500
terrorists, well, hey, I mean, maybe they want

00:46:31.500 --> 00:46:35.260
a better life. You're not going to vet anybody.

00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:36.900
You're going to let them in. And now you're saying

00:46:36.900 --> 00:46:38.420
that some of them should be allowed to vote.

00:46:38.460 --> 00:46:39.980
And you're going to give some of the money. And

00:46:39.980 --> 00:46:41.760
then New York City has this scam where they're

00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:44.179
giving them debit cards with like up to $10 ,000.

00:46:45.239 --> 00:46:47.539
And then meanwhile, poor people who live in New

00:46:47.539 --> 00:46:49.659
York City or citizens of the United States, they're

00:46:49.659 --> 00:46:52.360
shit out of luck. Sorry. My husband, who's an

00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:56.559
immigrant, he came over from England, but did

00:46:56.559 --> 00:46:58.820
it the right way. We've been married for almost

00:46:58.820 --> 00:47:00.880
two years. And Joe, he still doesn't have his

00:47:00.880 --> 00:47:04.199
green card. Yet you have people walking over

00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:07.480
the border and they obtain it with ease. Yes.

00:47:07.500 --> 00:47:09.579
It makes it harder for people like my husband

00:47:09.579 --> 00:47:12.860
and my family where. It's harder to travel. It's

00:47:12.860 --> 00:47:16.780
harder for job purposes when you don't have your

00:47:16.780 --> 00:47:19.539
documentation that you need. So you're right.

00:47:19.599 --> 00:47:24.179
It makes it harder on. not only Americans, but

00:47:24.179 --> 00:47:26.679
the people who want to do it the right way. Do

00:47:26.679 --> 00:47:29.159
you think about it? Like, why are they doing

00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:30.800
that? Do you think they're doing it to import

00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:32.820
voters? Do you think they're doing it because

00:47:32.820 --> 00:47:35.539
some industries want to encourage cheap labor,

00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:38.460
that this can break unions? Because if you've

00:47:38.460 --> 00:47:40.059
got a bunch of people that are undocumented,

00:47:40.420 --> 00:47:42.579
it's legal to hire them and you could pay them

00:47:42.579 --> 00:47:44.920
less. Why would you need a union when these people

00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:46.940
are just happy with whatever you give them? Exactly.

00:47:47.679 --> 00:47:52.239
Here's what I think. Joe Biden has every He has

00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:55.719
the power right now to secure the border. He

00:47:55.719 --> 00:47:59.239
has that power, but he won't do it. So to me,

00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:03.340
what this looks like is the planned and controlled

00:48:03.340 --> 00:48:09.659
destruction of this nation. Reasons why? I don't

00:48:09.659 --> 00:48:12.159
know if it's to get voters. I don't know if it's

00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:15.119
to, you know, what really the purpose is. But

00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:19.139
make no mistake, this is planned and it's. controlled

00:48:19.139 --> 00:48:24.110
again by the people leading this nation. Which

00:48:24.110 --> 00:48:26.510
is a terrifying thought. Well, it makes sense.

00:48:26.570 --> 00:48:28.650
It sounds nuts. And if you had said this 20 years

00:48:28.650 --> 00:48:30.329
ago, I was like, this bitch is out of her mind.

00:48:31.590 --> 00:48:34.590
What are we doing? Inviting Riley here? Control

00:48:34.590 --> 00:48:37.929
destruction of our United States. But now you

00:48:37.929 --> 00:48:40.570
look at it and you go, well, hold on. If they

00:48:40.570 --> 00:48:43.289
learned anything from COVID, one of the things

00:48:43.289 --> 00:48:46.590
they learned is that during a period of destabilization,

00:48:46.809 --> 00:48:49.369
people are much more compliant. And COVID was

00:48:49.369 --> 00:48:51.590
a massive period of destabilization to the point

00:48:51.590 --> 00:48:54.400
where they put into place. place illogical laws

00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:56.380
that restricted people's ability to keep their

00:48:56.380 --> 00:48:59.360
businesses open while leaving gigantic businesses

00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:01.820
wide open. You walk through Target, no one gets

00:49:01.820 --> 00:49:04.199
sick there. But if you go to mom and pop's candle

00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:06.880
shop, everyone's going to die. And none of that

00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:09.119
made any sense. None of it made any sense. And

00:49:09.119 --> 00:49:10.739
they got us to get through with that. If they

00:49:10.739 --> 00:49:13.019
can destabilize the country in the form of letting

00:49:13.019 --> 00:49:16.500
violence into the country and then also, but

00:49:16.500 --> 00:49:18.599
at the same time, simultaneously cracking down

00:49:18.599 --> 00:49:22.099
on gun laws in America. and imposing more gun

00:49:22.099 --> 00:49:25.059
control on the citizens. I mean, I don't want

00:49:25.059 --> 00:49:29.260
to fucking secure my tinfoil hat on. But if I

00:49:29.260 --> 00:49:33.579
was going to do it, if I was an evil person who

00:49:33.579 --> 00:49:36.940
had this goal of the destruction of America,

00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:40.019
that's how I would do it. I would get everybody

00:49:40.019 --> 00:49:44.159
involved in the most nonsensical. bullshit arguments,

00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:48.480
like use 78 different gender pronouns. And if

00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:50.880
you don't call someone a Z -zer. We had this

00:49:50.880 --> 00:49:53.099
conversation with Christopher Ruffo the other

00:49:53.099 --> 00:49:56.260
day. I saw. The Z -zer thing, like he's literally

00:49:56.260 --> 00:50:00.199
got to go to court because he was not willing

00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:04.239
to call someone Z -zer. So he's got he's got

00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:07.679
to be charged with a crime. They have to see

00:50:07.679 --> 00:50:10.199
whether or not he committed some hate crime.

00:50:10.300 --> 00:50:12.340
Well, that's because he didn't use a made up

00:50:12.340 --> 00:50:16.699
pronoun. This whole new Title IX rewrite that

00:50:16.699 --> 00:50:18.719
the Biden administration is pursuing that will

00:50:18.719 --> 00:50:21.519
be, I believe, announced in the next couple of

00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:27.179
weeks. And under this new rewrite, it is sexual.

00:50:28.010 --> 00:50:31.110
You would be guilty and charged with sexual harassment.

00:50:31.210 --> 00:50:35.250
If you, a 17 -year -old girl who's housed with

00:50:35.250 --> 00:50:38.030
a male in your dorm room, if you go to your administration

00:50:38.030 --> 00:50:40.030
and complain, expressing that you feel uncomfortable

00:50:40.030 --> 00:50:42.710
being housed with a male, you're charged with

00:50:42.710 --> 00:50:46.809
sexual harassment. Not the man who's parading

00:50:46.809 --> 00:50:49.989
around your locker room or your bathroom. No,

00:50:50.050 --> 00:50:53.469
that's brave or stunning or inspiring or whatever

00:50:53.469 --> 00:50:55.690
other virtuous word they want to use. But you

00:50:55.690 --> 00:50:59.010
calling a spade a spade. is grounds for sexual

00:50:59.010 --> 00:51:03.869
harassment. Bananas. Bananas. Like, not even...

00:51:03.869 --> 00:51:05.849
Like a whole bunch of bananas. Yeah, like if

00:51:05.849 --> 00:51:08.050
you saw it in a fucking movie, you'd be like,

00:51:08.150 --> 00:51:10.550
no way. If there was a movie that someone put

00:51:10.550 --> 00:51:12.909
out in 2003, and this was the plot, you'd be

00:51:12.909 --> 00:51:14.869
like, shut the fuck up. That's never going to

00:51:14.869 --> 00:51:18.030
fly. That's so ridiculous. And here we are, and

00:51:18.030 --> 00:51:20.570
it's moving further and further in that direction.

00:51:21.150 --> 00:51:24.449
You're seeing gaslighting. On an unprecedented

00:51:24.449 --> 00:51:28.010
level, there was this group of people that got

00:51:28.010 --> 00:51:31.070
interviewed by The New York Times that are super

00:51:31.070 --> 00:51:36.659
fans of Joe Biden that don't give a. It's wild.

00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:40.460
I mean, it's wild. It's wild to see these people.

00:51:40.539 --> 00:51:42.980
I think he's amazing. And I think what he's doing

00:51:42.980 --> 00:51:46.679
is the greatest one term that any president.

00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:48.659
He's done more. Karine Jean -Pierre, whatever

00:51:48.659 --> 00:51:50.079
the fuck her name is, said that the other day.

00:51:50.179 --> 00:51:52.840
She said that this administration, they asked

00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:55.219
him, why does Biden need cue cards for everything?

00:51:55.500 --> 00:51:57.400
Why does he need cue cards when he sits down?

00:51:57.559 --> 00:51:59.000
Why does he need cue? Like, why does he need

00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:00.659
those things? That was the question. And she

00:52:00.659 --> 00:52:03.760
just rattles off how what Joe Biden has done

00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:06.800
more. these three years than most presidents

00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:09.719
do literally what let open the border kill the

00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:12.559
economy fund two fucking crazy wars but that's

00:52:12.559 --> 00:52:14.739
what you'll find too when pull out of afghanistan

00:52:14.739 --> 00:52:19.880
when you have these biden super fans um you'll

00:52:19.880 --> 00:52:22.579
ask him okay well well what is it that you like

00:52:22.579 --> 00:52:25.300
that biden has done he's amazing well i just

00:52:25.300 --> 00:52:28.039
like what he stands for yeah they can't list

00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:30.909
anything Well, it's just nonsense. It's like,

00:52:30.949 --> 00:52:33.050
I like the 49ers. That's all it is. They're on

00:52:33.050 --> 00:52:34.929
a team and they'll fucking support that team

00:52:34.929 --> 00:52:38.050
full stop no matter what. And it's that same

00:52:38.050 --> 00:52:41.289
sort of behavior that exists in any group of

00:52:41.289 --> 00:52:44.070
people that's ideologically captured. Whether

00:52:44.070 --> 00:52:47.690
you're a fucking lifelong Red Sox fan or you're

00:52:47.690 --> 00:52:51.449
a Democrat to the death. Blue no matter who.

00:52:51.590 --> 00:52:53.650
And there's people that just do that proudly

00:52:53.650 --> 00:52:56.610
and they announce it on Twitter and they get

00:52:56.610 --> 00:52:59.679
a bunch of people. 30 cats in their comments

00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:02.300
all commenting yay and all these mentally ill

00:53:02.300 --> 00:53:06.179
people oh 100 it's on both sides uh and and that's

00:53:06.179 --> 00:53:08.659
what i've been you know i've always been my whole

00:53:08.659 --> 00:53:11.199
life like i would say before being conservative

00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:14.820
i've always been a christian and so my values

00:53:14.820 --> 00:53:19.960
as a christian align more conservative um but

00:53:19.960 --> 00:53:24.199
what i've noticed these past two years um i'm

00:53:24.199 --> 00:53:28.470
really eye -opened uh to the amount of corruption,

00:53:28.470 --> 00:53:32.449
to the amount of string pulling, to the amount

00:53:32.449 --> 00:53:37.190
of really crazy people on both sides. So we talk

00:53:37.190 --> 00:53:39.309
a lot about the left because because they don't

00:53:39.309 --> 00:53:42.269
try and mask theirs, at least the like very extreme

00:53:42.269 --> 00:53:45.530
radical left, like those protesters or or the

00:53:45.530 --> 00:53:49.210
people who protest me, which like psycho. I was

00:53:49.210 --> 00:53:51.889
in Milwaukee recently and I had protesters stand

00:53:51.889 --> 00:53:55.969
outside my hotel room for hours, Joe, hours chanting.

00:53:57.219 --> 00:54:00.980
Riley can't swim. I'm like, that's the best you

00:54:00.980 --> 00:54:04.099
got. Riley can't swim. It is. I love it. When

00:54:04.099 --> 00:54:06.340
you're so good that that's all they could say.

00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:11.000
I would challenge any of them to a race. So we

00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:13.320
see the left being crazy. Yeah. But there's some

00:54:13.320 --> 00:54:16.119
crazy people. Oh, 100 percent. It's a human characteristic.

00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:19.340
And people, they jump into these ideologies not

00:54:19.340 --> 00:54:21.039
because they're well thought out and because

00:54:21.039 --> 00:54:22.860
it makes sense. It's because human beings are

00:54:22.860 --> 00:54:25.820
tribal by nature. And when we find a group, look.

00:54:26.429 --> 00:54:29.309
I see people talk about cults sometimes. Like

00:54:29.309 --> 00:54:31.130
in a documentary, I'm like, that seems like fun.

00:54:31.530 --> 00:54:37.050
And I'm a grown man. If I was an 18 -year -old

00:54:37.050 --> 00:54:40.230
boy and that happened, or a 16 -year -old boy,

00:54:40.349 --> 00:54:42.349
and I encountered them, I'm young and impressionable,

00:54:42.449 --> 00:54:44.730
100 % I could get sucked into it. You can get

00:54:44.730 --> 00:54:46.429
sucked into the left, you can get sucked into

00:54:46.429 --> 00:54:48.449
the right. And then you're around like -minded

00:54:48.449 --> 00:54:51.449
people, and the nuttiest, most ambitious, and

00:54:51.449 --> 00:54:54.010
most fucking psychotic of that group are the

00:54:54.010 --> 00:54:57.039
ones in the far outlines. Patriot front on one

00:54:57.039 --> 00:54:59.980
side and it's Antifa on the other side. And this

00:54:59.980 --> 00:55:01.980
is what happens. And this is what happens with

00:55:01.980 --> 00:55:04.909
human beings. And those people. They'll allow

00:55:04.909 --> 00:55:08.409
the Antifa people to fucking blow up things and

00:55:08.409 --> 00:55:10.570
light things on fire. Like, well, some violence

00:55:10.570 --> 00:55:12.630
is necessary to achieve the means. It's like

00:55:12.630 --> 00:55:16.010
the strong arm of the Democratic Party. And then

00:55:16.010 --> 00:55:17.730
for the right, they've got to kind of ignore

00:55:17.730 --> 00:55:21.769
the really loony right wing fucking Confederate

00:55:21.769 --> 00:55:24.489
flag dudes. Like, you've got to kind of push

00:55:24.489 --> 00:55:28.019
those aside, too. It's just who's in charge?

00:55:28.139 --> 00:55:30.539
The Democrats. They're in charge. Who's running

00:55:30.539 --> 00:55:32.739
the media? The Democrats. Almost universally.

00:55:32.760 --> 00:55:35.559
They've overtaken every public square, whether

00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:38.400
it's academia, whether it's corporate America,

00:55:38.599 --> 00:55:41.300
whether it's our government, the media. I mean,

00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:44.980
every every public square, which is why now,

00:55:45.139 --> 00:55:48.260
honestly, I feel like a lot of people who maybe.

00:55:49.050 --> 00:55:51.050
would have considered themselves previously as

00:55:51.050 --> 00:55:55.110
kind of like apolitical or, you know, someone

00:55:55.110 --> 00:55:57.929
who didn't really look at what's going on around

00:55:57.929 --> 00:55:59.610
the world. Like you said, have jobs and families.

00:55:59.690 --> 00:56:00.969
They have their heads down. They're not they

00:56:00.969 --> 00:56:02.789
don't look at the outside noise. I think it's

00:56:02.789 --> 00:56:05.590
waking a lot of people up, which is a good thing.

00:56:05.670 --> 00:56:08.849
That's the beauty of a democracy. Really, the

00:56:08.849 --> 00:56:12.489
American republic is having the people as the

00:56:12.489 --> 00:56:15.510
power. We do have the power. And I feel like

00:56:15.510 --> 00:56:19.599
we're we're engaging those people. Yeah, I think

00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:21.400
so. I mean, I think there's enough people that

00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:23.500
are realizing that this whole system is like

00:56:23.500 --> 00:56:26.440
completely fucked and that it's really just about

00:56:26.440 --> 00:56:28.380
money and power and control. And they use all

00:56:28.380 --> 00:56:31.780
these social issues as, you know, it's like a

00:56:31.780 --> 00:56:34.840
galvanizing force to get whatever their financial

00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:37.480
agenda is pushed through. That's all it is. Like

00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:39.719
when the Biden administration is talking about

00:56:39.719 --> 00:56:42.599
DEI and all that, it's just tied into banks.

00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:44.880
It's how they can fund businesses and give them

00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:47.539
loans. If you have more people that are this

00:56:47.539 --> 00:56:49.869
will give you more. And it's just a way to control

00:56:49.869 --> 00:56:52.809
businesses. And the whole thing is just all about

00:56:52.809 --> 00:56:56.230
money. It's all a gigantic con game. And the

00:56:56.230 --> 00:56:58.630
more, like I said, if I was a fucking tinfoil

00:56:58.630 --> 00:57:01.730
hat guy, if I was thinking this is someone trying

00:57:01.730 --> 00:57:03.889
to destroy the country, this is how I would do

00:57:03.889 --> 00:57:07.710
it. I would have people willing to vote for their

00:57:07.710 --> 00:57:11.929
own demise, not advocating for freedom, if that

00:57:11.929 --> 00:57:14.590
freedom gives freedom to the people that are

00:57:14.590 --> 00:57:18.269
opposed to them. We're so stupid and closed -minded,

00:57:18.369 --> 00:57:21.630
we're willing to burn it all down just to silence

00:57:21.630 --> 00:57:22.750
people. Take away everyone's freedom. Right.

00:57:22.829 --> 00:57:24.650
Take away everyone's freedom because I don't

00:57:24.650 --> 00:57:26.630
want that person who disagrees with me to have

00:57:26.630 --> 00:57:30.010
freedom. Crazy. When you put it that way, it's

00:57:30.010 --> 00:57:31.489
exactly what's happening. It is exactly what's

00:57:31.489 --> 00:57:33.690
happening, and it's not the case when I was a

00:57:33.690 --> 00:57:38.550
kid. When I was a young guy, I had friends whose

00:57:38.550 --> 00:57:41.150
parents were conservative, and my parents were

00:57:41.150 --> 00:57:43.480
hippies, and they hung out together. Everybody

00:57:43.480 --> 00:57:45.059
would go to dinner together. Like, no one cared.

00:57:45.320 --> 00:57:47.239
Yeah, there's no more gray area, so it seems.

00:57:47.420 --> 00:57:49.679
They could talk about stuff. You know, like,

00:57:49.739 --> 00:57:51.760
they could have agreements of what Reagan was

00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:53.980
good at. Like, there was, like, conversations.

00:57:54.119 --> 00:57:55.639
Well, you know, one thing Reagan really did good.

00:57:55.699 --> 00:57:57.380
Like, my fucking dad was saying that. Watching

00:57:57.380 --> 00:58:01.059
these people today, it's like the orcs are fighting

00:58:01.059 --> 00:58:04.130
against the hobbits. Like, this is crazy. Very

00:58:04.130 --> 00:58:07.809
true. So opposed. It's like so polarized. And

00:58:07.809 --> 00:58:10.349
again, if I was from another country and I was

00:58:10.349 --> 00:58:11.929
trying to ruin America, I was like, how could

00:58:11.929 --> 00:58:13.889
I do this? That's how I would do it. I would

00:58:13.889 --> 00:58:15.489
do it this way. And then I would do it through

00:58:15.489 --> 00:58:17.650
social media. And I would have the Democrats

00:58:17.650 --> 00:58:20.150
almost universally control social media. Of course

00:58:20.150 --> 00:58:22.969
they do. Except this one wild African -American.

00:58:24.869 --> 00:58:27.909
This one wild genius dude decides to buy Twitter.

00:58:28.150 --> 00:58:30.389
Isn't it amazing? Amazing. If he didn't do that,

00:58:30.449 --> 00:58:33.440
we would genuinely be fucked. Totally. pickle

00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:37.719
honestly twitter or x now is is really where

00:58:37.719 --> 00:58:41.739
i get like all my news like i don't even um resort

00:58:41.739 --> 00:58:44.300
to a lot of the mainstream media places at least

00:58:44.300 --> 00:58:47.360
for breaking news like i'll find it on x uh so

00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:49.639
god bless elon musk i i really think that he

00:58:49.639 --> 00:58:53.179
has um almost single -handedly there's been there's

00:58:53.179 --> 00:58:55.590
been uh i would say some pivotal people People

00:58:55.590 --> 00:58:57.809
or groups in this culture who have really helped

00:58:57.809 --> 00:58:59.690
turn some things around. I think the Babylon

00:58:59.690 --> 00:59:02.210
Bee has done a phenomenal job. But they were

00:59:02.210 --> 00:59:04.210
banned from Twitter. Yeah. And that was one of

00:59:04.210 --> 00:59:06.150
the breaking points for Elon. Exactly. When he

00:59:06.150 --> 00:59:07.349
found out they were banned from Twitter, he's

00:59:07.349 --> 00:59:09.849
like, what the fuck? It was a turning point.

00:59:09.949 --> 00:59:13.150
And so I really think he single -handedly almost

00:59:13.150 --> 00:59:19.840
really turned. this culture around. So God bless

00:59:19.840 --> 00:59:22.039
him. He's definitely made it take a turn. And

00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:24.079
for anybody who thinks that's exaggerating, you

00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:27.139
have to take into consideration that is not a

00:59:27.139 --> 00:59:29.980
business move that any corporation that wants

00:59:29.980 --> 00:59:33.199
to make money would have approved. No. If you're

00:59:33.199 --> 00:59:35.920
Elon Musk, you can do it. But there's like maybe

00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:38.780
five of those guys on earth that could just buy

00:59:38.780 --> 00:59:42.460
something for $44 billion. That's crazy. That's

00:59:42.460 --> 00:59:45.320
really probably worth half that. Right. So you

00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:47.659
can never justify it on paper. No. So he's an

00:59:47.659 --> 00:59:50.159
insane person. He is. Who's dedicated to free

00:59:50.159 --> 00:59:52.679
speech. He just happens to have $200 billion.

00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:56.360
So he can step in and do that. And when they

00:59:56.360 --> 00:59:58.699
tell him about advertising, that was one of my

00:59:58.699 --> 01:00:01.250
favorite speeches ever. He was like. Go fuck

01:00:01.250 --> 01:00:03.150
yourself. Isn't that awesome? It was amazing.

01:00:03.250 --> 01:00:05.050
It was perfect. If you're going to blackmail

01:00:05.050 --> 01:00:08.230
me with money, you're going to do that? Go fuck

01:00:08.230 --> 01:00:10.090
yourself. It's amazing. And then he goes, hi,

01:00:10.150 --> 01:00:14.670
Bob. It's hilarious. But honestly, that right

01:00:14.670 --> 01:00:18.289
there is what this nation, again, really this

01:00:18.289 --> 01:00:22.969
world is lacking, is strong leadership. Strong.

01:00:23.449 --> 01:00:25.309
male leadership in particular, we don't see a

01:00:25.309 --> 01:00:27.650
lot of these men, right? We picture men as these

01:00:27.650 --> 01:00:31.190
like dominant, aggressive, assertive leaders

01:00:31.190 --> 01:00:35.630
who protect and provide. Our nation is failing

01:00:35.630 --> 01:00:37.829
because we don't have those male leaders. We

01:00:37.829 --> 01:00:42.769
don't have people who have backbones and a moral

01:00:42.769 --> 01:00:45.369
compass. But Elon Musk has the perfect combination

01:00:45.369 --> 01:00:48.449
of a backbone and a moral compass, which is sad

01:00:48.449 --> 01:00:51.420
when you think about it. He's smarter than everybody.

01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:54.420
And he's rich. And he sees where all this is

01:00:54.420 --> 01:00:55.739
going. He's like, you people are out of your

01:00:55.739 --> 01:00:58.079
fucking minds. Like, what are you doing? So he

01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:00.099
literally has to step in and buy a social media

01:01:00.099 --> 01:01:04.300
platform. And then upon doing so, they release

01:01:04.300 --> 01:01:06.699
all these emails to these journalists like Michael

01:01:06.699 --> 01:01:09.260
Schellenberger and Matt Taibbi. And you find

01:01:09.260 --> 01:01:12.519
out through all this that they've been in contact

01:01:12.519 --> 01:01:15.219
with the FBI. And the FBI has been telling them

01:01:15.219 --> 01:01:18.900
to delete accounts and get rid of posts. My account

01:01:18.900 --> 01:01:24.030
was deleted. I guess prior to the Elon Musk era.

01:01:24.750 --> 01:01:26.730
What did you write that was the big offense?

01:01:27.170 --> 01:01:30.420
There are two sexes. I know. God forbid, right?

01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:32.920
Isn't that amazing? Put me in jail. A biological

01:01:32.920 --> 01:01:36.019
truth. Okay, can I get a review? Can we go to

01:01:36.019 --> 01:01:38.380
a textbook, please? Yeah. How many sexes does

01:01:38.380 --> 01:01:40.539
it say in the textbook? I think it says two.

01:01:40.739 --> 01:01:44.820
Does that say two? It says two sexes, male and

01:01:44.820 --> 01:01:48.199
female. So I was right. Let's ban the book, too.

01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:53.469
What is that? No, yeah. But I was able to. Make

01:01:53.469 --> 01:01:55.409
a new account under Elon Musk Twitter. Yeah,

01:01:55.409 --> 01:01:57.730
luckily. And it's the only platform that I've

01:01:57.730 --> 01:02:01.590
found where I don't get my videos or posts removed.

01:02:03.190 --> 01:02:06.289
TikTok, right? I was hesitant for TikTok for

01:02:06.289 --> 01:02:08.150
a long time for a lot of reasons, right? Like

01:02:08.150 --> 01:02:10.789
we hear that the Chinese are spying on us and

01:02:10.789 --> 01:02:11.989
going to take our information and blah, blah,

01:02:11.989 --> 01:02:15.130
blah. So I didn't want to post on TikTok for

01:02:15.130 --> 01:02:18.590
a long time. But I went on my – I had a profile.

01:02:18.650 --> 01:02:20.489
I'd sometimes view videos. Again, never really

01:02:20.489 --> 01:02:23.500
posting. And then – One day I go to my profile

01:02:23.500 --> 01:02:25.280
and I have like 20 ,000 followers having never

01:02:25.280 --> 01:02:27.699
posted. I'm like, this is crazy. Like, clearly

01:02:27.699 --> 01:02:31.920
there's an audience here on TikTok. And it's

01:02:31.920 --> 01:02:33.800
unique because it's a younger audience, which

01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:36.880
has been a big push of mine is to target younger

01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:40.239
people, people my age, to really engage them

01:02:40.239 --> 01:02:42.840
and help them see what's going on. So I was like,

01:02:42.860 --> 01:02:46.940
maybe I will start posting to TikTok. My videos

01:02:46.940 --> 01:02:53.340
went viral. And every single video. is like deleted

01:02:53.340 --> 01:02:56.039
now but i have like almost i think 400 000 followers

01:02:56.039 --> 01:02:58.400
having only posted like a couple times it's crazy

01:02:58.400 --> 01:03:01.360
and so they'll delete you if you talk about gender

01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:04.179
issues anything i could report like a factual

01:03:04.179 --> 01:03:08.340
real story that had happened saying nothing outlandish

01:03:08.340 --> 01:03:11.199
nothing um and it's deleted now again let's go

01:03:11.199 --> 01:03:12.920
back to my theory that someone's trying to destroy

01:03:12.920 --> 01:03:15.960
the country If I was the Chinese government and

01:03:15.960 --> 01:03:19.780
I was in control of a social media platform that's

01:03:19.780 --> 01:03:22.719
the most addictive and the most used by young

01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:28.179
kids, I would have as much confusion on there

01:03:28.179 --> 01:03:30.980
as possible. And I would have as much men with

01:03:30.980 --> 01:03:34.539
beards and lipsticks and long nails telling you

01:03:34.539 --> 01:03:36.139
that all your kids are going to be trans and

01:03:36.139 --> 01:03:38.659
have that shit everywhere and never take it down.

01:03:40.319 --> 01:03:43.719
who combats this, anyone that starts making sense

01:03:43.719 --> 01:03:45.559
and resonates with people, get them out of here.

01:03:45.679 --> 01:03:47.420
Just get them the fuck out of here. This is a

01:03:47.420 --> 01:03:49.539
propaganda machine. And they're laughing the

01:03:49.539 --> 01:03:53.059
whole time. And it is. Owned by China. And it

01:03:53.059 --> 01:03:56.980
is some of the most fucking troublesome spyware

01:03:56.980 --> 01:03:58.860
that they've ever examined. When guys have back

01:03:58.860 --> 01:04:02.940
engineered the Twitter code, the fucking coder

01:04:02.940 --> 01:04:04.539
guys have gone over that. They were like, oh,

01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:07.340
my God, this is crazy. This is the most invasive

01:04:07.340 --> 01:04:10.099
we've ever seen. It has access to your keystrokes.

01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:13.599
So like, say, if you're using TikTok and then

01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:15.679
you're also like sending emails, it's going to

01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:17.880
know what your emails are. It's going to know

01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:19.780
it's going to be able to listen to your voice.

01:04:20.059 --> 01:04:22.139
It's going to be able. to videotape you. It's

01:04:22.139 --> 01:04:23.820
going to have access to all sorts of aspects

01:04:23.820 --> 01:04:25.760
of your phone. Not necessarily saying it's going

01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:28.539
to use those things, but it's going to have the

01:04:28.539 --> 01:04:31.199
access to it. All that's in there. Now imagine

01:04:31.199 --> 01:04:34.699
a scenario where China attacks Taiwan. China

01:04:34.699 --> 01:04:37.300
attacks Taiwan and all of a sudden we're in this

01:04:37.300 --> 01:04:41.139
weird proxy hot war with China as well as a weird

01:04:41.139 --> 01:04:45.039
proxy hot war with Russia. And then China starts

01:04:45.039 --> 01:04:48.349
fucking with the phones. All these people that

01:04:48.349 --> 01:04:49.690
have TikTok on their phones. How many accounts

01:04:49.690 --> 01:04:52.309
are there? How many different people can they

01:04:52.309 --> 01:04:55.389
target that have children? And then these people

01:04:55.389 --> 01:04:58.170
are high level political people. How many people

01:04:58.170 --> 01:05:00.230
that are in board meetings? How many people that

01:05:00.230 --> 01:05:02.869
are coming home on their phone having conversations

01:05:02.869 --> 01:05:05.670
in private with their wife about the real problems

01:05:05.670 --> 01:05:07.849
that we have right now with corruption and the

01:05:07.849 --> 01:05:10.349
Biden laptop is real? That kind of shit. Right.

01:05:10.590 --> 01:05:12.900
They're going to have those. all those recordings

01:05:12.900 --> 01:05:14.719
they're going to literally be able to listen

01:05:14.719 --> 01:05:17.719
to anybody they want they've paid people what

01:05:17.719 --> 01:05:20.559
they've done is really fascinating they've gotten

01:05:20.559 --> 01:05:24.619
like high -speed internet routers and cell phone

01:05:24.619 --> 01:05:28.519
routers and they sell them cheaper and so people

01:05:28.519 --> 01:05:32.539
buy them and they and they've already found that

01:05:32.539 --> 01:05:34.059
some of these have third -party accessibility

01:05:34.969 --> 01:05:37.829
And they're putting them near nuclear facilities.

01:05:38.190 --> 01:05:41.050
The Chinese people are like, we'll sell you these

01:05:41.050 --> 01:05:43.170
cell phone towers cheaper. And just put them

01:05:43.170 --> 01:05:46.050
over there where you fucking test jets. And we're

01:05:46.050 --> 01:05:48.170
like, wow, that saves some money. What a great

01:05:48.170 --> 01:05:51.409
idea. And so we buy all their shit. And their

01:05:51.409 --> 01:05:54.449
infrastructure is everywhere. They own farmland

01:05:54.449 --> 01:05:57.570
everywhere. All over the country. And they own

01:05:57.570 --> 01:06:00.769
a lot of farmland that's around military bases.

01:06:00.989 --> 01:06:03.039
Right. Is this you saying I should delete TikTok?

01:06:03.559 --> 01:06:06.199
I'm saying I'm putting my fucking tinfoil hat

01:06:06.199 --> 01:06:10.199
on. I think it's like we were like, no, they

01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:12.440
would never do that. If you think about all the

01:06:12.440 --> 01:06:15.360
times in history that governments have overthrown

01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:17.480
other countries, that have invaded other countries,

01:06:17.639 --> 01:06:20.219
and they've done it with the only methods that

01:06:20.219 --> 01:06:22.480
were available then. The only methods were available

01:06:22.480 --> 01:06:24.880
then. You need tanks and guns and planes and

01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:27.159
weapons and bombs and shit. Not anymore. Not

01:06:27.159 --> 01:06:30.000
anymore. Now you need fucking cyber stuff. And

01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:33.179
with that, you can. literally destroy the way

01:06:33.179 --> 01:06:35.500
the morals and the ethics of an entire generation

01:06:35.500 --> 01:06:38.820
of people cast aside any ideas. They're trying

01:06:38.820 --> 01:06:41.400
to do things now where they're talking about

01:06:41.400 --> 01:06:44.539
minor attracted persons. Crazy. And you're seeing

01:06:44.539 --> 01:06:49.960
elected politicians, elected officials talking

01:06:49.960 --> 01:06:53.420
about being very clear that this is an identity,

01:06:53.679 --> 01:06:56.820
that these are minor attracted persons. It's

01:06:56.820 --> 01:07:00.840
really. That, right, you have people talking

01:07:00.840 --> 01:07:03.820
about pedophiles being maps, they'll call them.

01:07:04.440 --> 01:07:08.239
Whether it's this video recently that Libs of

01:07:08.239 --> 01:07:12.019
TikTok posted of these children, and I think

01:07:12.019 --> 01:07:15.219
Oklahoma may be sucking on toes. Did you see

01:07:15.219 --> 01:07:17.500
that? Of teachers or adults or whoever these

01:07:17.500 --> 01:07:19.860
people are. Is that what it was? Yes, it was

01:07:19.860 --> 01:07:23.420
a fundraiser. The children sucked on the toes

01:07:23.420 --> 01:07:26.199
of the adults? No car wash. Sucking Toes was

01:07:26.199 --> 01:07:27.480
going to be their fundraiser. It's definitely

01:07:27.480 --> 01:07:31.340
adults? Yeah, definitely adults. Or whether it's

01:07:31.340 --> 01:07:35.280
now you have these men, the CDC that says men

01:07:35.280 --> 01:07:40.059
can produce breast milk and lactate. I got news

01:07:40.059 --> 01:07:44.980
for you. Any man, any man who forces a baby to

01:07:44.980 --> 01:07:49.940
latch onto his nipple and suck it is using that

01:07:49.940 --> 01:07:53.670
baby as an erotic prop. And right, they do this

01:07:53.670 --> 01:07:57.369
under the guise of human rights. It is not a

01:07:57.369 --> 01:08:01.449
human right for anyone to sexually abuse a child.

01:08:02.389 --> 01:08:04.989
So all that to say, there's this big push. So

01:08:04.989 --> 01:08:06.929
it seems whether it's the gender ideology movement,

01:08:07.010 --> 01:08:10.530
there's this big push to seemingly normalize

01:08:10.530 --> 01:08:16.220
pedophilia, which is. grotesque. It is perverse.

01:08:16.319 --> 01:08:19.180
It's disgusting. Parents who are OK with this,

01:08:19.199 --> 01:08:22.199
Democrats who are OK with this, who vote in favor

01:08:22.199 --> 01:08:25.859
of a lot of this nonsense stuff. You're a sellout

01:08:25.859 --> 01:08:28.399
to your own child. And honestly, I think there's

01:08:28.399 --> 01:08:30.020
a separate conversation that needs to be had

01:08:30.020 --> 01:08:32.159
if you are an elected official voting in favor

01:08:32.159 --> 01:08:34.560
of this stuff with kids. I think there's a separate

01:08:34.560 --> 01:08:37.039
conversation that needs to be had involving CPS,

01:08:37.140 --> 01:08:40.720
because, again, that's disgusting. To say the

01:08:40.720 --> 01:08:43.899
least. And it's always been morally reprehensible.

01:08:44.100 --> 01:08:45.760
It's always been a thing that we wanted to kill

01:08:45.760 --> 01:08:47.859
people for. And now all of a sudden we're saying

01:08:47.859 --> 01:08:50.699
that it's an identity. Again, if I was trying

01:08:50.699 --> 01:08:53.239
to destroy a country, I would throw that into

01:08:53.239 --> 01:08:56.500
the educational system. I'd make it seem virtuous

01:08:56.500 --> 01:08:59.439
to discuss this in an open -minded and objective

01:08:59.439 --> 01:09:03.020
way. Like they can't help who they identify with.

01:09:03.399 --> 01:09:07.699
Well, and honestly, right, like, again, being

01:09:07.699 --> 01:09:10.260
a Christian, the Bible. tells us that we will

01:09:10.260 --> 01:09:13.760
reach a point, and Paul says it in Acts and Romans

01:09:13.760 --> 01:09:15.399
and different places, he tells us that we will

01:09:15.399 --> 01:09:17.680
reach a point where bitter is seen as sweet,

01:09:17.880 --> 01:09:20.539
dark is seen as light, and evil is seen as moral.

01:09:21.619 --> 01:09:24.180
It's undeniable that that's not what we're seeing

01:09:24.180 --> 01:09:27.439
now. And look, that's not to say that people

01:09:27.439 --> 01:09:31.180
who identify as trans are evil. I don't necessarily

01:09:31.180 --> 01:09:36.380
think that. But what is evil is deception. Manipulation

01:09:36.380 --> 01:09:40.300
is evil. Temptation is evil. Lying and affirming

01:09:40.300 --> 01:09:44.199
delusions. That's evil. And that's exactly how

01:09:44.199 --> 01:09:46.680
Satan works and how he operates is in the darkness.

01:09:46.779 --> 01:09:48.880
But now a lot of it is coming to light again.

01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:52.640
Thanks to people like Elon Musk. It sounds loony

01:09:52.640 --> 01:09:54.380
when we start having these kind of conversations

01:09:54.380 --> 01:09:57.180
about like Satan and evil and good and, you know,

01:09:57.180 --> 01:10:01.640
and biblical stories. But I as more as time goes

01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:06.699
on, I think that what the Bible is. is i think

01:10:06.699 --> 01:10:10.079
at one point in time there was a very sophisticated

01:10:10.079 --> 01:10:13.180
society that got wiped out by some sort of a

01:10:13.180 --> 01:10:18.640
massive natural disaster and then over time They

01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:21.340
told the stories that they had learned since

01:10:21.340 --> 01:10:23.180
they stopped writing things down and they probably

01:10:23.180 --> 01:10:25.079
had to live like barbarians for thousands of

01:10:25.079 --> 01:10:28.319
years. But they always had the stories. It's

01:10:28.319 --> 01:10:30.380
like literally the Big Bang. In the beginning,

01:10:30.420 --> 01:10:32.399
there was light. If you told that for thousands

01:10:32.399 --> 01:10:35.380
of years, that's what that would be. Right. The

01:10:35.380 --> 01:10:37.779
Adam and Eve in the garden, the creation that

01:10:37.779 --> 01:10:40.989
someone created this. Like that they were trying

01:10:40.989 --> 01:10:45.069
to tell us and that men can go down evil, wicked

01:10:45.069 --> 01:10:48.350
ways and it can lead to destruction. And these

01:10:48.350 --> 01:10:49.789
are some of the symptoms that you'll see when

01:10:49.789 --> 01:10:51.649
it leads to destruction. It's like this is like

01:10:51.649 --> 01:10:55.689
a map of civilization. It's just so old and it's

01:10:55.689 --> 01:10:58.369
been translated so many times from ancient Hebrew

01:10:58.369 --> 01:11:00.930
and Aramaic and all these different languages

01:11:00.930 --> 01:11:03.489
down to Greek and Latin and English finally.

01:11:04.470 --> 01:11:07.310
There's so much like what was really said, what

01:11:07.310 --> 01:11:10.369
was really going on, because a lot of it seems

01:11:10.369 --> 01:11:13.890
too on the money. Like if we wanted to try to

01:11:13.890 --> 01:11:15.829
put this through some sort of a logical filter

01:11:15.829 --> 01:11:18.310
or figure out like, is someone really trying

01:11:18.310 --> 01:11:21.909
to warn us about the natural progression that

01:11:21.909 --> 01:11:24.609
all societies and all civilizations go down if

01:11:24.609 --> 01:11:27.989
you don't have a moral compass and if you don't

01:11:27.989 --> 01:11:31.529
follow and adhere to the rules of God? Well,

01:11:31.750 --> 01:11:35.260
there's still stuff that hasn't yet. Right. Like

01:11:35.260 --> 01:11:38.100
what has been prophesied that hasn't yet happened.

01:11:38.619 --> 01:11:43.800
So time will tell. Right. I think Jesus is his

01:11:43.800 --> 01:11:47.960
return is is past due. Like Dr. Manhattan. Yeah.

01:11:48.279 --> 01:11:52.039
If that would be the wildest. Forget about UFOs.

01:11:53.979 --> 01:11:56.039
UFOs would be pretty wild UFOs in the White House

01:11:56.039 --> 01:11:58.260
lawn would be wild. Jesus on the White House

01:11:58.260 --> 01:12:01.750
lawn. Wow. That would be the game changer. I

01:12:01.750 --> 01:12:03.850
pray for that. Come back, please. God, do you

01:12:03.850 --> 01:12:05.149
think people would even believe it? They would

01:12:05.149 --> 01:12:07.649
think, oh my God, this is Illuminati. Our media

01:12:07.649 --> 01:12:09.489
would spin it some way. Well, our fucking, just

01:12:09.489 --> 01:12:12.770
people on Reddit. The people that are like 4chan

01:12:12.770 --> 01:12:15.149
people. What a platform. What a platform. Oh

01:12:15.149 --> 01:12:19.890
my gosh, I have seen some of the craziest stuff

01:12:19.890 --> 01:12:22.529
on Reddit. And I don't have a Reddit account.

01:12:23.050 --> 01:12:26.189
That's not my space. But you go in and look at

01:12:26.189 --> 01:12:28.449
things sometimes. But people will post other

01:12:28.449 --> 01:12:32.479
Reddit clips. I speak a lot on these on college

01:12:32.479 --> 01:12:35.619
campuses, again, with the intention of of really

01:12:35.619 --> 01:12:40.239
trying to garner support from the youth, but

01:12:40.239 --> 01:12:42.659
also encouraging them to find their own voice

01:12:42.659 --> 01:12:46.600
and to be bold and to be leaders themselves.

01:12:48.939 --> 01:12:51.180
All done through the Leadership Institute, which

01:12:51.180 --> 01:12:56.000
is just a phenomenal group. But a lot of these

01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:59.270
college campuses I speak on. The protesters,

01:12:59.409 --> 01:13:01.029
when they hear I'm coming, they'll go to Reddit

01:13:01.029 --> 01:13:04.590
and they'll start going off, which is hilarious

01:13:04.590 --> 01:13:07.649
to look at. But honestly, it's kind of scary.

01:13:07.729 --> 01:13:10.590
Like a lot of these people, for instance, I was

01:13:10.590 --> 01:13:15.750
at San Francisco State a few months back, which

01:13:15.750 --> 01:13:18.449
was my first mistake going to freaking San Francisco.

01:13:18.630 --> 01:13:21.229
But I went there with the intention of right.

01:13:21.289 --> 01:13:24.029
Like talking about what you and I have talked

01:13:24.029 --> 01:13:26.489
about, at least from from that national champ.

01:13:26.840 --> 01:13:29.039
championship standpoint, everything that we went

01:13:29.039 --> 01:13:32.539
through, why it's important. I went there and

01:13:32.539 --> 01:13:35.220
what a naive thought to think that these people,

01:13:35.359 --> 01:13:37.760
these students would come with an open mind and

01:13:37.760 --> 01:13:39.640
the willingness to have their hearts softened

01:13:39.640 --> 01:13:43.539
because they did not. They came with their pitchforks

01:13:43.539 --> 01:13:47.399
and fire. And upon me delivering my speech in

01:13:47.399 --> 01:13:51.079
a classroom setting, right? So like a podium

01:13:51.079 --> 01:13:54.439
at the front, there's seats in the class. Upon

01:13:54.439 --> 01:13:58.140
delivering my speech afterwards, A group of protesters

01:13:58.140 --> 01:14:01.119
entered into the room, hundreds of them, turned

01:14:01.119 --> 01:14:04.720
off the lights, rushed to the front. I'm being

01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:08.340
shoved and hit and jostled. I'm so confused what's

01:14:08.340 --> 01:14:12.479
going on. Punched, right? But fortunately for

01:14:12.479 --> 01:14:14.979
me, men in dresses, their punches don't hurt

01:14:14.979 --> 01:14:18.659
that bad. But ultimately, these protesters ended

01:14:18.659 --> 01:14:21.500
up holding me for ransom throughout the night.

01:14:22.800 --> 01:14:24.739
demanding that if I wanted to make it home to

01:14:24.739 --> 01:14:27.199
see my family safely again, I had to pay them

01:14:27.199 --> 01:14:30.159
money. All the while, you might be wondering,

01:14:30.260 --> 01:14:32.539
OK, well, where are the police? Joe, it's San

01:14:32.539 --> 01:14:34.899
Francisco. The police are being held for ransom

01:14:34.899 --> 01:14:37.800
in the same room with me. I'm looking at the

01:14:37.800 --> 01:14:41.979
police like pretty sure I'm being held against

01:14:41.979 --> 01:14:44.520
my will. Pretty sure we call that kidnapping.

01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:48.800
Isn't there something you can do to like alleviate?

01:14:49.470 --> 01:14:52.310
What's going on here to de -escalate and get

01:14:52.310 --> 01:14:58.930
me home safely? No, actually, we can't. We're

01:14:58.930 --> 01:15:01.409
not allowed to be seen as anything other than

01:15:01.409 --> 01:15:04.289
an ally to that community. The same community

01:15:04.289 --> 01:15:05.930
who's on the other side of that door calling

01:15:05.930 --> 01:15:08.710
them racist pigs for protecting a white girl

01:15:08.710 --> 01:15:12.569
like me. Say that again? They're not allowed

01:15:12.569 --> 01:15:16.039
to be seen as anything other than an ally? Right.

01:15:16.039 --> 01:15:18.039
This is like a mandate from the police department.

01:15:18.079 --> 01:15:20.880
So anything that involves anyone who's trans,

01:15:21.300 --> 01:15:23.920
you you have to automatically support regardless

01:15:23.920 --> 01:15:26.600
of whether or not that person is the aggressor.

01:15:26.619 --> 01:15:29.159
Let me tell you, even is that fair to say? Well,

01:15:29.300 --> 01:15:31.380
that's what was communicated to me. Even now,

01:15:31.420 --> 01:15:36.460
where there is an ample amount of video footage.

01:15:36.960 --> 01:15:39.640
of this happening. There is audio evidence. There

01:15:39.640 --> 01:15:41.819
are eyewitness testimonies. Again, the police

01:15:41.819 --> 01:15:43.520
were in the room with me. There's footage that

01:15:43.520 --> 01:15:45.199
I requested that they never sent me, whether

01:15:45.199 --> 01:15:47.260
it was CCTV footage or their body cam footage.

01:15:47.960 --> 01:15:50.579
There's an ample amount of evidence to charge

01:15:50.579 --> 01:15:53.779
whoever is responsible, whether it's the students,

01:15:53.979 --> 01:15:56.159
whether it's the university, whether it's honestly

01:15:56.159 --> 01:15:58.920
the police department at this point. They have

01:15:58.920 --> 01:16:02.119
come back now. And said that the charges are

01:16:02.119 --> 01:16:04.300
alleged. There's nothing they can do. There's

01:16:04.300 --> 01:16:06.380
no evidence to prosecute or press charges against

01:16:06.380 --> 01:16:10.319
anyone. I'm looking at this. Keep in mind, right,

01:16:10.359 --> 01:16:13.100
the dean of students shows up when I'm being

01:16:13.100 --> 01:16:15.899
held in this room for hours and hours, four hours,

01:16:16.039 --> 01:16:17.960
through the middle of the night in this room.

01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:20.380
And the dean of students shows up. He's negotiating

01:16:20.380 --> 01:16:23.239
with the students how much I owe each of them

01:16:23.239 --> 01:16:26.729
to get out. The price that... I had heard was

01:16:26.729 --> 01:16:28.609
agreed upon through the side of the door was

01:16:28.609 --> 01:16:31.949
$10 each, which I'm mad about because I think

01:16:31.949 --> 01:16:35.569
I'm worth more than $10. They all want $10. Granted,

01:16:35.569 --> 01:16:37.789
there's a lot of them. Oh, my God. But how funny

01:16:37.789 --> 01:16:40.489
is that? Give us all $10. We're hungry. We'll

01:16:40.489 --> 01:16:44.489
leave. We want to go get Subway. But anyways,

01:16:44.770 --> 01:16:48.109
the university the next day sent out a university

01:16:48.109 --> 01:16:53.350
-wide email to their, I mean, staff, professors,

01:16:53.510 --> 01:16:57.329
students, everybody. and said, we are so proud

01:16:57.329 --> 01:17:00.010
of our brave students for handling Riley Gaines

01:17:00.010 --> 01:17:01.649
in the manner that they did. We know how deeply

01:17:01.649 --> 01:17:03.850
traumatic her presence is on this campus, and

01:17:03.850 --> 01:17:06.430
so here are some counseling resources for you

01:17:06.430 --> 01:17:08.310
guys. Oh, my God. You know, just know we see

01:17:08.310 --> 01:17:11.869
you, we stand with you, we see you, we hear you,

01:17:11.949 --> 01:17:14.529
we love you. Again. Nowhere in there did they

01:17:14.529 --> 01:17:18.029
condemn violence against women, for that matter.

01:17:18.069 --> 01:17:21.630
Nowhere in there did they say, we uphold our

01:17:21.630 --> 01:17:23.979
First Amendment. And the freedom of speech? No,

01:17:24.100 --> 01:17:25.520
of course not. The right to civil discourse?

01:17:25.899 --> 01:17:32.180
No, forget it. So. It's so crazy. And that's

01:17:32.180 --> 01:17:35.260
just the. San Francisco's fallen. Oh, beyond.

01:17:35.399 --> 01:17:38.159
I was in San Francisco. I mean, that's really

01:17:38.159 --> 01:17:41.000
like, again, if I was going to ruin a country.

01:17:41.449 --> 01:17:43.229
That's how I would do it. I would tell the children,

01:17:43.310 --> 01:17:45.689
everyone's amazing. And that assault you did,

01:17:45.729 --> 01:17:48.270
that was warranted. And I know how deeply traumatic

01:17:48.270 --> 01:17:51.170
that must have been for you. So here's some counseling

01:17:51.170 --> 01:17:53.069
because you need counseling. You need to be able

01:17:53.069 --> 01:17:56.130
to talk about it. So further fuel your narcissism

01:17:56.130 --> 01:17:58.470
and get involved with someone who constantly

01:17:58.470 --> 01:18:00.069
wants to talk about you all day. Here's some

01:18:00.069 --> 01:18:02.630
counseling. Let's talk about you. Great. I really

01:18:02.630 --> 01:18:06.050
need to focus on me. And then more about you

01:18:06.050 --> 01:18:08.430
and how amazing you are that you hit this lady

01:18:08.430 --> 01:18:10.510
who said that men shouldn't be able to compete

01:18:10.510 --> 01:18:13.829
with women. Fucking duh. Yeah. And then there's

01:18:13.829 --> 01:18:15.670
nothing that can be done about it. Nothing. Zero.

01:18:15.789 --> 01:18:19.229
So which is why it's hard for us. And when I

01:18:19.229 --> 01:18:22.109
say us, I really just mean sane people. I'm not

01:18:22.109 --> 01:18:25.090
making this conservative versus Republican versus

01:18:25.090 --> 01:18:28.789
Democrat type thing. It makes it harder for us

01:18:28.789 --> 01:18:33.670
in this space to push back when we have district

01:18:33.670 --> 01:18:36.949
courts or our Department of Justice that really

01:18:36.949 --> 01:18:42.979
is corrupt. It's incredibly. two -tiered. This

01:18:42.979 --> 01:18:45.100
Fanny Willis thing is awesome, though. Yeah,

01:18:45.100 --> 01:18:48.579
right? I love it. Isn't it just? It's fun watching

01:18:48.579 --> 01:18:50.979
her get sassy when she's getting questioned,

01:18:51.039 --> 01:18:54.460
too. And that's so telling, right? When she starts

01:18:54.460 --> 01:18:57.380
freaking out and yelling and it's like, babe,

01:18:57.420 --> 01:18:59.939
if you just wanted to be this or to have this

01:18:59.939 --> 01:19:03.279
guy be your, like, booty call or vice versa.

01:19:03.680 --> 01:19:06.500
Yeah, you're not supposed to hire him. What the

01:19:06.500 --> 01:19:10.500
fuck? How obvious is that? Also, You can't say

01:19:10.500 --> 01:19:13.439
that you fucking paid for everything in cash.

01:19:14.140 --> 01:19:16.800
Like, what? Imagine that. Like, this is what

01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:18.300
I'll say. Right. This is how I'm going to get

01:19:18.300 --> 01:19:19.180
them. I'm going to get them right here. Yeah,

01:19:19.180 --> 01:19:20.979
that'll work. I'm going to tell them I paid it

01:19:20.979 --> 01:19:24.420
all in cash. Sorry. No records. All in cash.

01:19:24.539 --> 01:19:27.659
Where'd you get the cash? I had cash. I just

01:19:27.659 --> 01:19:29.880
had it. Where'd you get the fucking cash? You

01:19:29.880 --> 01:19:32.979
get $50 ,000 later on? Who does that? But they

01:19:32.979 --> 01:19:36.119
do that because they know there's a chance of

01:19:36.119 --> 01:19:39.180
it working. Not really. I think she thought the

01:19:39.180 --> 01:19:41.079
system is more rigged than it is because I think

01:19:41.079 --> 01:19:42.800
most people have never been exposed to national

01:19:42.800 --> 01:19:45.060
attention. And you can speak to this. Exactly.

01:19:45.100 --> 01:19:46.880
They have no idea what the pressure like that

01:19:46.880 --> 01:19:49.279
you've experienced. Like you've experienced some

01:19:49.279 --> 01:19:52.859
at a young age as a person who had no desire

01:19:52.859 --> 01:19:55.399
to be famous other than be a great athlete. Out

01:19:55.399 --> 01:19:59.039
of nowhere, you get hit with this barrage of

01:19:59.039 --> 01:20:01.439
attention where you're on Fox News and this and

01:20:01.439 --> 01:20:04.279
that, newspapers. And some people are labeling

01:20:04.279 --> 01:20:06.739
you in the most horrible way. And some people

01:20:06.739 --> 01:20:09.659
were proud that she's standing up for women in

01:20:09.659 --> 01:20:11.439
sports. And you got this conflict and you're

01:20:11.439 --> 01:20:13.340
in the fucking center of it. And you got crazy

01:20:13.340 --> 01:20:16.000
people who rush the stage and hit you. And the

01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:19.380
cops say, we can't do anything that doesn't show

01:20:19.380 --> 01:20:23.329
us as an ally to that community. That's not even

01:20:23.329 --> 01:20:26.170
America. That's la -la land. They're living in

01:20:26.170 --> 01:20:27.750
the Willy Wonka Chocolate Factory. Those people

01:20:27.750 --> 01:20:29.310
are out of their fucking minds. The Willy Wonka

01:20:29.310 --> 01:20:30.869
Chocolate Factory sounds better than America.

01:20:30.869 --> 01:20:33.069
It sounds way better. But they're literally out

01:20:33.069 --> 01:20:35.850
of their minds. And this is unsustainable. It

01:20:35.850 --> 01:20:37.550
is. At some point in time. And we realize that

01:20:37.550 --> 01:20:40.550
because, honestly, truth and sanity, they always

01:20:40.550 --> 01:20:43.029
prevail. It's just kind of a matter of time.

01:20:44.550 --> 01:20:48.119
Unfortunately, it takes... unfortunate circumstances

01:20:48.119 --> 01:20:50.960
like the whole leah thomas thing like the san

01:20:50.960 --> 01:20:53.220
francisco state thing like the things that continue

01:20:53.220 --> 01:20:57.279
to happen it takes those to to really see the

01:20:57.279 --> 01:21:00.439
harm and the severity and the likelihood that

01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:04.760
they continue at an exponential rate um so again

01:21:04.760 --> 01:21:09.199
i kind of look at what's going on or you know

01:21:09.199 --> 01:21:11.560
in particular what happened to me as as a lemons

01:21:11.560 --> 01:21:14.659
to lemonade thing right you take something that

01:21:14.659 --> 01:21:17.970
should have never happened to anyone But you

01:21:17.970 --> 01:21:20.289
do good with it. And that's certainly what I've

01:21:20.289 --> 01:21:23.369
been trying to do over these past, again, two

01:21:23.369 --> 01:21:26.829
years. And it has. There's been a lot of good

01:21:26.829 --> 01:21:29.289
stuff that's been done. We see a lot of the negative.

01:21:29.369 --> 01:21:31.170
We see a lot of the bad. And certainly that's

01:21:31.170 --> 01:21:33.869
what's highlighted because that's what gets attention.

01:21:34.029 --> 01:21:36.090
That's what gets clicks. That's what gets likes.

01:21:37.449 --> 01:21:41.170
But now, in just two short years, 24 states have

01:21:41.170 --> 01:21:42.770
some sort of fairness in women's sports bill

01:21:42.770 --> 01:21:44.750
when only, I think three years ago, only one

01:21:44.750 --> 01:21:48.050
state. did. So that's pretty incredible. Lots

01:21:48.050 --> 01:21:50.770
of traction, lots of momentum. Like I said, four

01:21:50.770 --> 01:21:53.329
states implementing a bill now that defines the

01:21:53.329 --> 01:21:58.409
word woman. We've seen lots of pushback at the

01:21:58.409 --> 01:22:00.069
IOC, the International Olympic Committee. So

01:22:00.069 --> 01:22:02.229
there's been lots of good things that have been

01:22:02.229 --> 01:22:06.170
done. And I certainly choose to celebrate the

01:22:06.170 --> 01:22:09.569
little wins when we get them. Well, what you've

01:22:09.569 --> 01:22:12.229
done is very courageous because I know the kind

01:22:12.229 --> 01:22:14.050
of pressure that you must have experienced. I

01:22:14.050 --> 01:22:16.590
know the hate that's come your way and you handle

01:22:16.590 --> 01:22:21.270
it with class. And that is not a learned thing.

01:22:21.390 --> 01:22:24.050
And I think that speaks to one of the things

01:22:24.050 --> 01:22:25.649
that I think is like one of the most important

01:22:25.649 --> 01:22:27.510
things that kids can ever get involved in that

01:22:27.510 --> 01:22:30.890
sports. Definitely. I know people think of sports

01:22:30.890 --> 01:22:32.630
as being like if you're an intellectual, you

01:22:32.630 --> 01:22:34.909
think of as being like a jock or a meathead thing.

01:22:36.010 --> 01:22:40.189
It teaches you a resolve. It teaches you when

01:22:40.189 --> 01:22:43.569
you have to swim six hours a day, like you have

01:22:43.569 --> 01:22:46.250
to be strong mentally. And it transcends beyond

01:22:46.250 --> 01:22:49.229
just your athletic achievements. Which is my

01:22:49.229 --> 01:22:51.029
point is how you can handle this, the way you

01:22:51.029 --> 01:22:53.909
can handle it. And honestly, now, like, I love

01:22:53.909 --> 01:22:58.010
pressure. I love it. I love setting goals and

01:22:58.010 --> 01:23:01.109
achieving those goals, which sets me up perfectly

01:23:01.109 --> 01:23:06.359
for this position. And you're right. Like, I

01:23:06.359 --> 01:23:09.140
would highly encourage. My parents did it. My

01:23:09.140 --> 01:23:12.199
parents made me play sports. And when, you know,

01:23:12.220 --> 01:23:14.880
my dad being a professional football player,

01:23:15.039 --> 01:23:18.859
he did not. I won't say he didn't. He never really

01:23:18.859 --> 01:23:21.079
cared what sport I played. But when I started

01:23:21.079 --> 01:23:23.380
swimming, he's like, Riley, come on. That's not

01:23:23.380 --> 01:23:25.439
a sport. I'm like, Dad, it is a sport. Like,

01:23:25.479 --> 01:23:28.779
it's hard. Like, we work hard. He's like, no,

01:23:28.840 --> 01:23:30.479
Riley, that's not a sport. Then I started dating

01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:34.020
a swimmer. And my dad was like, Riley. Any sport,

01:23:34.100 --> 01:23:36.260
his justification was any sport where a man has

01:23:36.260 --> 01:23:39.220
to wear panties and competes. Like they're gay,

01:23:39.319 --> 01:23:40.720
Riley. He's like, you're dating someone who's

01:23:40.720 --> 01:23:42.979
gay. I'm like, dad. And now he's my husband.

01:23:43.079 --> 01:23:44.800
And now, of course, he knows he's not gay and

01:23:44.800 --> 01:23:47.760
he's the best. But it's just. But all that to

01:23:47.760 --> 01:23:52.039
say. That sounds funny. Yeah. He's. I had to

01:23:52.039 --> 01:23:54.579
refrain him from going in the locker room at

01:23:54.579 --> 01:23:56.039
that national championships. I called him. I'm

01:23:56.039 --> 01:23:59.619
like, dad, there's a man in. our locker room

01:23:59.619 --> 01:24:01.800
because we didn't know this was going to be the

01:24:01.800 --> 01:24:03.699
arrangement until we saw it until like we were

01:24:03.699 --> 01:24:05.979
actually in there with this again six foot four

01:24:05.979 --> 01:24:09.899
man stripping down fully intact exposing himself

01:24:09.899 --> 01:24:12.020
inches away from where we were simultaneously

01:24:12.020 --> 01:24:15.319
fully undressed right like i can't even put into

01:24:15.319 --> 01:24:19.159
words like the the feeling of having your back

01:24:19.159 --> 01:24:21.859
turned and all of a sudden like getting naked

01:24:21.859 --> 01:24:24.539
hearing a man's voice in the locker room it's

01:24:24.539 --> 01:24:26.859
like It was innate, inherent for every girl in

01:24:26.859 --> 01:24:28.619
that changing space to cover themselves. Like

01:24:28.619 --> 01:24:30.260
whether it was with their hands or their towels

01:24:30.260 --> 01:24:33.260
or their clothes, like it was inherent. That's

01:24:33.260 --> 01:24:35.420
so psychotic. So I called my dad. I'm like, dad,

01:24:35.460 --> 01:24:38.220
there's a man in this locker room. He's like,

01:24:38.220 --> 01:24:40.880
Riley, I'm coming down there and I'm going to

01:24:40.880 --> 01:24:43.560
handle this myself. And I really was like, dad,

01:24:43.600 --> 01:24:46.220
like, like he would, like he would do that. And

01:24:46.220 --> 01:24:49.039
I'm like, no, we already have one man in the

01:24:49.039 --> 01:24:51.000
locker room. We don't need to. And secondly,

01:24:51.079 --> 01:24:53.350
like you'll go to jail. And I don't want you

01:24:53.350 --> 01:24:56.409
there. So I got this. I can handle it. Which,

01:24:56.470 --> 01:24:59.130
again, the things that I think set me apart from

01:24:59.130 --> 01:25:01.329
some of my teammates or competitors or other

01:25:01.329 --> 01:25:05.569
people in my same position is playing sports.

01:25:06.029 --> 01:25:10.090
I credit so much of my success and impact that's

01:25:10.090 --> 01:25:13.170
been had to playing sports. Secondly, it's having

01:25:13.170 --> 01:25:16.029
a strong family foundation. I have two parents,

01:25:16.250 --> 01:25:19.550
two amazing parents who love each other. Everyone

01:25:19.550 --> 01:25:23.430
around me, like my grandparents, all in very

01:25:23.430 --> 01:25:26.189
healthy, loving relationships. I don't have a

01:25:26.189 --> 01:25:29.270
lot of divorce around me or in my family or anything

01:25:29.270 --> 01:25:31.250
like that. I have got lots of siblings. We're

01:25:31.250 --> 01:25:33.569
all so close. So I think my family foundation

01:25:33.569 --> 01:25:37.369
is a huge aspect to, again, what kind of set

01:25:37.369 --> 01:25:42.369
me apart. And third, again, is my faith. Just

01:25:42.369 --> 01:25:46.229
knowing the outcome like we've. we just previously

01:25:46.229 --> 01:25:49.310
spoke about, like knowing how this all ends and

01:25:49.310 --> 01:25:51.550
really trusting that and having faith in that

01:25:51.550 --> 01:25:57.670
and just knowing the battle is already won. That's

01:25:57.670 --> 01:26:00.369
certainly what keeps me grounded and keeps, you

01:26:00.369 --> 01:26:02.590
know, a smile on my face and an incredibly light

01:26:02.590 --> 01:26:05.390
heart, even when these crazy freaks at San Francisco

01:26:05.390 --> 01:26:08.750
are like. Like running at me. The first thing

01:26:08.750 --> 01:26:10.529
I do is pray for them. I'm like, oh my gosh,

01:26:10.550 --> 01:26:12.409
you look miserable. And I can't imagine having

01:26:12.409 --> 01:26:14.569
that much hatred in my heart. So I think all

01:26:14.569 --> 01:26:19.970
of those things are kind of what maybe made me

01:26:19.970 --> 01:26:21.850
a little different. The combination of those

01:26:21.850 --> 01:26:25.289
things. No one thing over the other, but set

01:26:25.289 --> 01:26:27.229
me apart from some of my peers. You're the right

01:26:27.229 --> 01:26:30.350
woman for the job when it came along. That's

01:26:30.350 --> 01:26:32.250
what it is. It's really like the universe put

01:26:32.250 --> 01:26:34.210
you in that position because most people wouldn't

01:26:34.210 --> 01:26:38.409
be as. uniquely disciplined about chasing this

01:26:38.409 --> 01:26:41.949
down as you are. And it's a big task. Like there's

01:26:41.949 --> 01:26:44.649
always something. There's always some story.

01:26:44.810 --> 01:26:48.149
There's always someone. You die. Actually, I

01:26:48.149 --> 01:26:51.109
know you're similar, right? Where like the messages

01:26:51.109 --> 01:26:55.470
I get daily from parents, from coaches, from

01:26:55.470 --> 01:26:59.090
young female athletes who this is happening to,

01:26:59.170 --> 01:27:01.510
who they don't know what to do. I just talked

01:27:01.510 --> 01:27:02.970
to the girl. I don't know if you saw this video.

01:27:03.800 --> 01:27:07.720
It was the basketball game in Massachusetts recently

01:27:07.720 --> 01:27:11.000
where you've got this like six foot something

01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:15.819
guy who injured three girls before halftime of

01:27:15.819 --> 01:27:17.600
this game, causing the team to have to forfeit

01:27:17.600 --> 01:27:19.159
because they didn't have enough players left

01:27:19.159 --> 01:27:24.300
to play the game. Talking with this team and

01:27:24.300 --> 01:27:27.579
this girl. Like she's 13 years old and she's

01:27:27.579 --> 01:27:29.739
getting pummeled to the ground by this guy. And

01:27:29.739 --> 01:27:31.640
she's online reading the comments and stuff,

01:27:31.720 --> 01:27:35.739
which I never advise. But she is. And there's

01:27:35.739 --> 01:27:38.100
people calling, you know, this girl a wuss and

01:27:38.100 --> 01:27:40.199
saying that she's being a baby and she's fine.

01:27:40.300 --> 01:27:42.760
And she reads that. And it's really hard for

01:27:42.760 --> 01:27:44.600
her. Guarantee those people don't play sports.

01:27:44.800 --> 01:27:46.920
Of course not. Right? They're just nuts. You

01:27:46.920 --> 01:27:51.579
know what clip I loved? It was on this show talking

01:27:51.579 --> 01:27:54.739
about Keith Olbermann. That guy's the gift that

01:27:54.739 --> 01:27:56.600
keeps giving. He's the gift that keeps giving.

01:27:56.640 --> 01:27:59.520
He is the Babylon Bee version of a Democrat.

01:27:59.939 --> 01:28:04.420
He really is. I want to know if he's still crying

01:28:04.420 --> 01:28:07.000
urine. Did you see all that? What was going on

01:28:07.000 --> 01:28:12.020
with him? The Supreme Court ruling? 9 -0 in Trump's

01:28:12.020 --> 01:28:14.960
favor, of course. And he commented back to someone

01:28:14.960 --> 01:28:17.079
on social media. It was like someone was... was

01:28:17.079 --> 01:28:20.600
basically like, dude, cope, you know, cry harder.

01:28:20.720 --> 01:28:22.819
You know, your liberal tears taste awesome. And

01:28:22.819 --> 01:28:24.880
he said, these aren't tears, you fascist. It's

01:28:24.880 --> 01:28:28.800
pee or urine. And I'm like, what does this mean?

01:28:29.180 --> 01:28:31.979
What does this mean? You're crying urine. I'm

01:28:31.979 --> 01:28:35.039
so confused. It's crazy to say that's fascist,

01:28:35.039 --> 01:28:38.579
too. But I saw this clip on your show where you

01:28:38.579 --> 01:28:42.390
were you were highlighting. You know how he came

01:28:42.390 --> 01:28:45.210
for me. And I'm like, dude, who are you? I don't

01:28:45.210 --> 01:28:48.729
even know who you are. And I'm, yeah, that's

01:28:48.729 --> 01:28:51.590
hilarious, right? I very proudly finished my

01:28:51.590 --> 01:28:54.590
career as a 12 -time All -American, five -time

01:28:54.590 --> 01:28:57.210
SEC champion, the SEC record holder, the fastest

01:28:57.210 --> 01:28:59.470
person to ever come out of the SEC in the 200

01:28:59.470 --> 01:29:01.210
butterfly, making me one of the fastest Americans

01:29:01.210 --> 01:29:04.170
of all time, SEC Scholar Athlete of the Year,

01:29:04.270 --> 01:29:06.449
SEC Community Service Leader of the Year. Like,

01:29:06.470 --> 01:29:09.170
I mean, I could keep going on. And it's like.

01:29:09.579 --> 01:29:12.640
This senile old man wants to attack me? He still

01:29:12.640 --> 01:29:15.600
lives with his mom in her basement. I had to

01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:17.439
ask my dad. I'm like, who is this guy? I don't

01:29:17.439 --> 01:29:18.979
even know who he is. I think he has his own place,

01:29:19.119 --> 01:29:23.020
but he's definitely insane. But he's insane in

01:29:23.020 --> 01:29:24.880
a very unique way. He used to be a really good

01:29:24.880 --> 01:29:29.699
baseball broadcaster. Yeah, my dad loved him.

01:29:29.819 --> 01:29:32.300
But then he got really nutty during the Trump

01:29:32.300 --> 01:29:35.420
administration. And that Trump derangement syndrome,

01:29:35.680 --> 01:29:39.020
that's a real thing. It's a real thing. And I

01:29:39.020 --> 01:29:41.680
think there's some people that are fragile already.

01:29:41.960 --> 01:29:44.699
The world is just like the anxiety and this and

01:29:44.699 --> 01:29:47.460
that. And also this position of being the person

01:29:47.460 --> 01:29:51.399
of virtue, the angry, loud voice of reason. That's

01:29:51.399 --> 01:29:53.479
a weird banner to carry when you don't have your

01:29:53.479 --> 01:29:56.239
own shit together, when your own life is chaos.

01:29:56.479 --> 01:29:59.399
Your fucking mental health is very unsteady and

01:29:59.399 --> 01:30:01.020
you're out there preaching and telling people

01:30:01.020 --> 01:30:04.399
what to do. And as you start losing and Trump's

01:30:04.399 --> 01:30:06.199
the president now and you're like, he's going

01:30:06.199 --> 01:30:07.300
to get arrested, he's going to get arrested,

01:30:07.300 --> 01:30:08.869
and he never gets arrested. Right. And then they're

01:30:08.869 --> 01:30:10.270
going to take him off the ballot, take him off

01:30:10.270 --> 01:30:11.890
the ballot. He's an insurrectionist. Nope. Supreme

01:30:11.890 --> 01:30:15.109
Court says unanimously. No. It's like it just

01:30:15.109 --> 01:30:17.090
like further compounds and you never get a win.

01:30:17.390 --> 01:30:18.989
You never get a win. You get a little bit of

01:30:18.989 --> 01:30:20.729
a win when Biden won and then the chaos after

01:30:20.729 --> 01:30:22.390
the Biden administration and all the things that

01:30:22.390 --> 01:30:24.529
we knew were true, that he was mentally compromised,

01:30:24.649 --> 01:30:26.250
all those things come around. That's not a win.

01:30:26.390 --> 01:30:29.149
So then you're just in this constant state of

01:30:29.149 --> 01:30:32.449
like anxiety and chaos and saying nonsense things.

01:30:32.670 --> 01:30:35.850
Like almost like he wants you to come after him

01:30:35.850 --> 01:30:38.810
because you came after him so hard. It was so

01:30:38.810 --> 01:30:41.350
funny when you showed like all your medals and

01:30:41.350 --> 01:30:43.310
all your shit. Like the fuck are you talking

01:30:43.310 --> 01:30:46.699
about, stupid? And my motto is like. Truly, like,

01:30:46.739 --> 01:30:48.439
and I feel like I, for the most part, pretty

01:30:48.439 --> 01:30:50.979
much live by this, like, don't punch down. Like,

01:30:51.020 --> 01:30:53.500
don't give someone attention when that's clearly

01:30:53.500 --> 01:30:55.939
what they're vying for is attention. But I literally

01:30:55.939 --> 01:30:57.619
could not resist myself when it came to him.

01:30:57.720 --> 01:31:01.140
And it was so tragic because I'm showing him,

01:31:01.180 --> 01:31:04.899
like, all the accolades and stuff. And as I picked

01:31:04.899 --> 01:31:07.539
one of them up, it's a glass trophy. I drop it

01:31:07.539 --> 01:31:10.979
and I broke it. But let me tell you, it was so

01:31:10.979 --> 01:31:14.460
cool because the SEC. saw this video that I had

01:31:14.460 --> 01:31:17.199
made and dropping one of my like all SEC first

01:31:17.199 --> 01:31:20.399
team honors and they sent me a new one and they're

01:31:20.399 --> 01:31:22.560
like we're so sorry that you had to waste your

01:31:22.560 --> 01:31:25.739
time and break a trophy over Keith Olbermann

01:31:25.739 --> 01:31:27.760
we wanted to send you a new one good for them

01:31:27.760 --> 01:31:31.020
totally good for them that's funny though even

01:31:31.020 --> 01:31:32.779
the way you handled it when you dropped it I'm

01:31:32.779 --> 01:31:34.399
like whatever I've got more of them who cares

01:31:34.399 --> 01:31:36.399
Keith Olbermann I don't care about this trophy

01:31:37.630 --> 01:31:40.810
I want this trophy. People like him are really

01:31:40.810 --> 01:31:45.390
fascinating because it's the social media interaction.

01:31:45.630 --> 01:31:49.289
It compounds mental illness in a way that I have

01:31:49.289 --> 01:31:51.829
never seen in my life with anything. There's

01:31:51.829 --> 01:31:56.050
nothing like it. It is a zombie apocalypse. It's

01:31:56.050 --> 01:31:58.409
weird. There's so many people that are just like

01:31:58.409 --> 01:32:01.970
deeply involved in social media interaction all

01:32:01.970 --> 01:32:05.829
day long. And look, social media, of course,

01:32:05.829 --> 01:32:08.939
is a blessing. I would argue it's a bigger curse

01:32:08.939 --> 01:32:11.239
than it is a blessing. And you're right. We see

01:32:11.239 --> 01:32:14.779
people like on my X feed who are on there posting

01:32:14.779 --> 01:32:19.180
all day long. I'm like, what do you do? Do you

01:32:19.180 --> 01:32:21.640
have a family? Do you have a life? Like, do you

01:32:21.640 --> 01:32:23.939
work? Like, I'm so confused how you have time.

01:32:24.520 --> 01:32:27.279
All day long, every hour of every day to be posting

01:32:27.279 --> 01:32:29.380
something. That's their life. It is their life.

01:32:29.399 --> 01:32:31.420
There's a lot of people like that. That is their

01:32:31.420 --> 01:32:34.520
life. And they sort of accumulate these bubbles

01:32:34.520 --> 01:32:36.560
of people that they communicate with. Right.

01:32:36.600 --> 01:32:39.100
They stay in these echo chambers and they exist

01:32:39.100 --> 01:32:41.699
there forever and they don't go outside. And

01:32:41.699 --> 01:32:43.800
they wonder why they're depressed. It's so true.

01:32:44.100 --> 01:32:46.079
It is what it is. It's so true. It's what it

01:32:46.079 --> 01:32:49.340
is. Yeah. Human bodies, I firmly believe, have

01:32:49.340 --> 01:32:51.239
a physical requirement. And if you don't meet

01:32:51.239 --> 01:32:52.800
that physical requirement. You've got to get

01:32:52.800 --> 01:32:54.819
enough sleep. You've got to drink enough water.

01:32:54.979 --> 01:32:56.859
All that. You've got to exercise. You have to.

01:32:57.319 --> 01:32:59.300
And you're right. The people. Feel like shit.

01:32:59.619 --> 01:33:01.739
Aren't doing these things. Right. They're on

01:33:01.739 --> 01:33:04.260
Twitter all day. It's compounding their mental

01:33:04.260 --> 01:33:06.340
illness. They're probably already medicated.

01:33:06.500 --> 01:33:09.079
Definitely. And then here they are just getting

01:33:09.079 --> 01:33:12.119
after it with strangers, getting, fuck you, you're

01:33:12.119 --> 01:33:15.979
Hitler, you fucking Nazi. It's like it's so wild

01:33:15.979 --> 01:33:19.800
to see. And it's all getting accentuated by algorithms

01:33:19.800 --> 01:33:23.020
specifically to try to extend your engagement

01:33:23.020 --> 01:33:25.310
and keep you hooked. And then when you see something

01:33:25.310 --> 01:33:28.609
like TikTok that will not let opposing viewpoints,

01:33:28.770 --> 01:33:32.229
even viewpoints that are – Question. Even if

01:33:32.229 --> 01:33:35.729
you question the narrative. But meanwhile, if

01:33:35.729 --> 01:33:37.949
you go to China, their TikTok is all about scientific

01:33:37.949 --> 01:33:40.409
achievements, athletic achievements, martial

01:33:40.409 --> 01:33:43.510
arts. It's all about positive role models, exercise

01:33:43.510 --> 01:33:46.029
routines. It's all like super – and you can't

01:33:46.029 --> 01:33:49.069
be on after 10 p .m. Go to sleep. Go to sleep.

01:33:49.430 --> 01:33:51.930
Get ready for war. Yeah. No, they're laughing

01:33:51.930 --> 01:33:54.210
at us. A hundred percent. I'm laughing at us.

01:33:54.250 --> 01:33:57.109
How are they not laughing at us? When I see Rachel

01:33:57.109 --> 01:34:00.250
Levine stand in front of everybody and give advice

01:34:00.250 --> 01:34:02.569
on health, I'm like, what the fuck are you talking

01:34:02.569 --> 01:34:06.250
about? It's so true, right? Not only the fact

01:34:06.250 --> 01:34:08.930
that this is someone who is injecting themselves

01:34:08.930 --> 01:34:12.189
with foreign and unnatural hormones and substances.

01:34:13.079 --> 01:34:15.520
Rachel Levine is obese. I'm like, why are you

01:34:15.520 --> 01:34:17.460
our assistant secretary of health or whatever

01:34:17.460 --> 01:34:21.399
the name is when you're quite literally overweight?

01:34:21.699 --> 01:34:24.279
Yeah. Like. Are you sure I should be listening

01:34:24.279 --> 01:34:26.159
to you on anything? The whole administration,

01:34:26.560 --> 01:34:29.180
they've stuffed some of these very questionable

01:34:29.180 --> 01:34:31.600
people that happen to be non -binary or trans

01:34:31.600 --> 01:34:33.720
or whatever into these roles just for optics.

01:34:34.119 --> 01:34:36.159
That's what they did with that Sam Brinton guy.

01:34:36.340 --> 01:34:38.560
The guy that was stealing women's clothes. The

01:34:38.560 --> 01:34:42.939
suitcase stealer. He had some job with nuclear

01:34:42.939 --> 01:34:46.819
waste disposal. He looks like a Dr. Manhattan

01:34:46.819 --> 01:34:50.439
character. You look at him with his shaved head

01:34:50.439 --> 01:34:52.020
and his lipstick. He looks like a bad guy in

01:34:52.020 --> 01:34:54.600
a superhero movie. Stealing women's clothes.

01:34:54.880 --> 01:34:57.659
And you're right. They've sprinkled that throughout

01:34:57.659 --> 01:35:00.300
in all of the different departments and realms.

01:35:00.479 --> 01:35:03.880
And here we are suffering the consequences. It's

01:35:03.880 --> 01:35:09.000
so bizarre because, again, in other wars, you

01:35:09.000 --> 01:35:12.079
had to use weapons. That's the way to do it.

01:35:12.180 --> 01:35:13.819
I mean, they had espionage. They definitely did

01:35:13.819 --> 01:35:16.720
steal information and find out strategies and

01:35:16.720 --> 01:35:20.590
tactics. Not like today, where you can literally

01:35:20.590 --> 01:35:24.989
infiltrate a whole section of the country and

01:35:24.989 --> 01:35:27.750
have them believe that they have to adhere. If

01:35:27.750 --> 01:35:29.430
you're going to be left, if you're going to be

01:35:29.430 --> 01:35:31.970
on the side of the good people that want a social

01:35:31.970 --> 01:35:34.689
safety net and they want welfare and free education,

01:35:34.829 --> 01:35:36.489
if you're going to be on that side, you also

01:35:36.489 --> 01:35:39.010
have to be on the side where perverts don't exist

01:35:39.010 --> 01:35:41.130
anymore. There's no more sex offenders. There's

01:35:41.130 --> 01:35:43.720
no more pedophiles. There's minor attracted people

01:35:43.720 --> 01:35:47.140
and trans men and gender dysphoria is just problematic

01:35:47.140 --> 01:35:49.619
and transphobic. And what it really is is just

01:35:49.619 --> 01:35:52.000
your identity. And there's a spectrum of genders.

01:35:52.079 --> 01:35:53.859
And if you don't use Z -Zur, we're going to put

01:35:53.859 --> 01:35:57.859
you in a cage. Crazy. But so true. But this is.

01:35:58.119 --> 01:36:00.979
It's reality. But this is 2024. This didn't exist

01:36:00.979 --> 01:36:05.420
in 2004. No. What does 2044 look like? And that's

01:36:05.420 --> 01:36:07.260
honestly what we should be asking ourselves.

01:36:07.579 --> 01:36:10.399
I think too often we get kind of wrapped up in

01:36:10.399 --> 01:36:13.520
like. the here and the now. And ultimately, that's

01:36:13.520 --> 01:36:15.340
how we've gotten to this point, right? You give

01:36:15.340 --> 01:36:18.300
an inch, they take a mile type thing. And we

01:36:18.300 --> 01:36:20.640
don't see the harm in it at the time. But yeah,

01:36:20.720 --> 01:36:24.000
we should be looking ahead 20 plus years, five

01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:26.359
years at this matter. Things are so expedited.

01:36:26.399 --> 01:36:28.699
We should be looking ahead five years. And again,

01:36:28.840 --> 01:36:32.199
if we're willing to deny man and woman, what's

01:36:32.199 --> 01:36:34.159
the next thing they're going to ask us to deny?

01:36:34.359 --> 01:36:38.460
And it sounds crazy, but like age, we've seen

01:36:38.880 --> 01:36:41.159
Some people who identify as trans age out of

01:36:41.159 --> 01:36:43.300
Canada and different places, even some here in

01:36:43.300 --> 01:36:45.720
the States, who write this story of this like

01:36:45.720 --> 01:36:49.359
55 -year -old some man competing with the 13,

01:36:49.420 --> 01:36:52.819
14 girls. He identifies as a 15 -year -old girl.

01:36:52.960 --> 01:36:55.420
Which sounds crazy. And changed in the locker

01:36:55.420 --> 01:36:58.859
room with them. It sounds crazy, but denying

01:36:58.859 --> 01:37:01.500
age is the exact same premise as denying sex.

01:37:01.699 --> 01:37:04.180
You can't deny race yet. No, not yet. That's

01:37:04.180 --> 01:37:07.039
the line. Not yet. Some people have tried it

01:37:07.039 --> 01:37:10.600
with Korean. Yeah. That one dude, he said that

01:37:10.600 --> 01:37:12.279
he was transracial. He believes he's Korean.

01:37:12.399 --> 01:37:15.479
So he got his face operated on so he'd look with

01:37:15.479 --> 01:37:17.520
more Korean -like features. He's come around

01:37:17.520 --> 01:37:20.720
now. He's not anymore? Well, I don't know the

01:37:20.720 --> 01:37:25.590
status of surgical procedures. I think he has

01:37:25.590 --> 01:37:27.729
a book out now that talks about kind of like

01:37:27.729 --> 01:37:31.050
how he was totally enthralled in like K -pop

01:37:31.050 --> 01:37:33.649
and all this stuff and really believed to be

01:37:33.649 --> 01:37:36.350
a part of this. But now it's like and like all

01:37:36.350 --> 01:37:40.029
the woke gender ideology stuff. And now he's

01:37:40.029 --> 01:37:43.750
totally like, whoa, what did I do? Now he's going

01:37:43.750 --> 01:37:45.930
to go to CPAC. Now he's going to go to CPAC.

01:37:46.949 --> 01:37:48.689
That's what he's doing now. That would be a good

01:37:48.689 --> 01:37:50.770
move for a guy like that strategically for a

01:37:50.770 --> 01:37:53.350
career. If you want more attention, just go hard

01:37:53.350 --> 01:37:57.359
right. All the way. No looking back. I want to

01:37:57.359 --> 01:38:02.979
be a man again, it says. Oh, his detransitioning

01:38:02.979 --> 01:38:05.020
journey. Yeah, but it says I want to be a man

01:38:05.020 --> 01:38:07.220
again. Was he ever a woman? I don't know what

01:38:07.220 --> 01:38:08.739
the title was. This is just like the beginning

01:38:08.739 --> 01:38:11.460
of the thing. Yeah. There's always been crazy

01:38:11.460 --> 01:38:13.920
people, folks. And when you give crazy people

01:38:13.920 --> 01:38:17.079
the opportunity to be protected under the walled

01:38:17.079 --> 01:38:24.050
garden of the LGBTQTI plus. You're inviting crazy

01:38:24.050 --> 01:38:26.829
people to infiltrate your organization, which

01:38:26.829 --> 01:38:29.930
will fuck up any legitimate concerns that people

01:38:29.930 --> 01:38:32.189
have of letting people live whatever way they

01:38:32.189 --> 01:38:34.590
want to live. The way I look at this and the

01:38:34.590 --> 01:38:38.250
way I look at all things is I don't ever want

01:38:38.250 --> 01:38:40.449
to tell people what to do. I don't want to tell

01:38:40.449 --> 01:38:43.609
anybody what to do. But I'm always very concerned.

01:38:44.430 --> 01:38:46.390
When people do want to tell people what to do.

01:38:46.470 --> 01:38:48.470
Because I know what that thought process. It

01:38:48.470 --> 01:38:50.369
sets off. Yeah. It sets off alarms. Yeah. Because

01:38:50.369 --> 01:38:51.710
like, I don't want to control people. Why are

01:38:51.710 --> 01:38:53.409
you trying to control people? Right. What is

01:38:53.409 --> 01:38:56.409
your thing about? Some people like to control

01:38:56.409 --> 01:38:59.170
people. It's a natural inclination that human

01:38:59.170 --> 01:39:00.770
beings have had since the beginning of time.

01:39:00.909 --> 01:39:04.810
They do it through gossip and rumor and try to

01:39:04.810 --> 01:39:07.210
destroy people's character. Right. They do it

01:39:07.210 --> 01:39:10.729
through subterfuge and sabotage and espionage.

01:39:10.829 --> 01:39:13.489
They want fucking power. Of course. It's normal.

01:39:13.710 --> 01:39:17.329
and natural. And if you just operate on that

01:39:17.329 --> 01:39:19.470
principle always, look at the people that are

01:39:19.470 --> 01:39:22.449
trying to restrict your rights. And why are they

01:39:22.449 --> 01:39:24.310
doing that? Why are they doing that? Because

01:39:24.310 --> 01:39:26.770
people do that. That's a thing people do. You

01:39:26.770 --> 01:39:28.829
might not do that because you're a good person.

01:39:29.189 --> 01:39:31.369
Maybe you're just a normal person who wants to

01:39:31.369 --> 01:39:33.229
just live a normal life and play golf on the

01:39:33.229 --> 01:39:36.289
weekends and have a family and be normal. There's

01:39:36.289 --> 01:39:37.789
people out there, that's not their game. That's

01:39:37.789 --> 01:39:39.810
not their game. Their game is a different game.

01:39:39.930 --> 01:39:41.960
And you've got to be able to see that. And if

01:39:41.960 --> 01:39:43.979
you can't see that, you're just going to go along

01:39:43.979 --> 01:39:46.239
with it because you're a good person. And you

01:39:46.239 --> 01:39:50.039
will life offend, affirming, saving, gender affirming

01:39:50.039 --> 01:39:52.359
care. You just say the words. Right. They don't

01:39:52.359 --> 01:39:53.800
even mean anything to you. You're just saying

01:39:53.800 --> 01:39:56.340
what everybody in your cult says. Totally. And

01:39:56.340 --> 01:39:58.600
I could not agree more. Right. These people who

01:39:58.600 --> 01:40:01.260
say, you know, you're transphobic or you're anti

01:40:01.260 --> 01:40:04.399
-trans. First of all, that doesn't hurt my feelings.

01:40:04.500 --> 01:40:06.539
I don't really care if someone says that about

01:40:06.539 --> 01:40:09.159
me. But second of all, look, my stance isn't

01:40:09.159 --> 01:40:12.090
anti -trans. Just like you said, what someone

01:40:12.090 --> 01:40:14.390
else does behind closed doors, what Leah Thomas

01:40:14.390 --> 01:40:17.149
does behind closed doors. No, I don't support

01:40:17.149 --> 01:40:21.310
it. No, I don't agree with it. But live your

01:40:21.310 --> 01:40:23.270
life just like I'm going to live my life. Like

01:40:23.270 --> 01:40:24.970
you said, I don't want someone telling me how

01:40:24.970 --> 01:40:27.789
to live. So, no, I don't agree or support. But

01:40:27.789 --> 01:40:30.869
do as you do. It shouldn't cost my taxpayer dollars.

01:40:31.109 --> 01:40:35.649
It shouldn't affect my rights. But if it doesn't,

01:40:35.649 --> 01:40:40.579
by all means. Really, the stance that I'm taking,

01:40:40.779 --> 01:40:44.479
that I feel like majority of Americans have taken,

01:40:44.520 --> 01:40:47.619
is advocating for transparency more than anything.

01:40:47.979 --> 01:40:51.560
Right? Like, if something is advertised for women,

01:40:51.779 --> 01:40:56.800
boom, it's for women. That's not to say you can't

01:40:56.800 --> 01:40:59.060
have a co -ed team. But it's only women that

01:40:59.060 --> 01:41:00.899
are getting harmed by this. Only women. The whole

01:41:00.899 --> 01:41:02.800
thing. And it was always to protect women until

01:41:02.800 --> 01:41:06.189
women became... less oppressed than someone else,

01:41:06.310 --> 01:41:08.350
and that is trans women. And that's what they

01:41:08.350 --> 01:41:11.369
did. It's the Depression Olympics. It really

01:41:11.369 --> 01:41:17.130
is. There was the regional college track and

01:41:17.130 --> 01:41:20.289
field meet where a male runner competing on the

01:41:20.289 --> 01:41:23.189
women's team at Rochester Institute of Technology,

01:41:23.310 --> 01:41:28.250
RIT, in New York, this past week competed, broke

01:41:28.250 --> 01:41:30.729
the regional meet record, of course. The girl

01:41:30.729 --> 01:41:32.729
who got second was an African -American female.

01:41:33.690 --> 01:41:35.550
Let's call this what this is. This is a white

01:41:35.550 --> 01:41:39.189
man standing atop the podium, left, crickets.

01:41:39.689 --> 01:41:42.250
Nothing. Nothing. So I think oppression Olympics

01:41:42.250 --> 01:41:43.869
is actually a great way to put it. Really what

01:41:43.869 --> 01:41:46.729
it is, because no matter who you are, trans trumps

01:41:46.729 --> 01:41:50.189
that. It's the ace. It's the top. It's the top.

01:41:50.229 --> 01:41:54.890
And if you're a black trans man, or I guess what

01:41:54.890 --> 01:41:57.170
they would call, I guess a black trans identifying

01:41:57.170 --> 01:42:02.739
male, you're the king. Black trans woman or black

01:42:02.739 --> 01:42:07.079
trans man? See, it's a male. It's trans woman,

01:42:07.180 --> 01:42:08.520
but I don't like saying all that, remember? Oh,

01:42:08.520 --> 01:42:10.420
okay, right, right, right. Silly stuff. So trans.

01:42:10.520 --> 01:42:13.000
A trans -identifying male who is black, who's

01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:15.260
a man who identifies as a woman. You win. You

01:42:15.260 --> 01:42:17.760
are the winner. You are the most oppressed, which

01:42:17.760 --> 01:42:21.680
what an odd world we live in to where you want

01:42:21.680 --> 01:42:24.760
to be a victim. You want to be marginalized.

01:42:24.859 --> 01:42:27.380
You want to be an oppressed because what's the

01:42:27.380 --> 01:42:30.119
alternative? An oppressor. And we have learned

01:42:30.119 --> 01:42:34.199
as a society that there is nothing worse than

01:42:34.199 --> 01:42:37.420
being an oppressor. So you'll do anything and

01:42:37.420 --> 01:42:40.199
not to dilute what it means to be trans or people

01:42:40.199 --> 01:42:42.619
who genuinely struggle with gender dysphoria,

01:42:42.659 --> 01:42:47.520
not to dilute this, but people would much rather

01:42:47.520 --> 01:42:50.819
be oppressed than be an oppressor. And the white

01:42:50.819 --> 01:42:53.960
man has always been the oppressor. Not anymore.

01:42:54.119 --> 01:42:58.029
They found a way to really curb that. Just say

01:42:58.029 --> 01:43:00.310
you're a woman. Grow out your hair, put some

01:43:00.310 --> 01:43:02.449
lipstick on. And you can dominate women. And

01:43:02.449 --> 01:43:04.390
you can get into women's prisons. That's a big

01:43:04.390 --> 01:43:07.449
push we've seen. 47 biological males are in California

01:43:07.449 --> 01:43:09.869
prisons right now. Crazy. You know how many went

01:43:09.869 --> 01:43:11.890
into, you know how many, to your point, how many

01:43:11.890 --> 01:43:14.750
women went into men's prisons in California?

01:43:15.010 --> 01:43:18.329
How many? One. She had three months left of her

01:43:18.329 --> 01:43:22.090
sentence. So no time. But yeah, we've seen in

01:43:22.090 --> 01:43:26.100
New Jersey. Ohio, California, Kansas, New York.

01:43:26.159 --> 01:43:29.319
In New York, they have posted placards in all

01:43:29.319 --> 01:43:32.060
women's prisons talking about pregnancy prevention.

01:43:32.420 --> 01:43:34.039
And you know what they did in California prisons?

01:43:34.239 --> 01:43:37.100
Over Super Bowl, on Super Bowl Sunday, where

01:43:37.100 --> 01:43:40.600
everyone's distracted, right? Like, no one's

01:43:40.600 --> 01:43:43.960
paying attention. They had supervisors come in,

01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:48.119
working overtime, to implement in women's facilities,

01:43:48.460 --> 01:43:51.699
women's prisons, condom dispensers and dental

01:43:51.699 --> 01:43:55.140
dams. So not only look, look, sex in prisons

01:43:55.140 --> 01:43:57.819
is not allowed. It's not. I mean, you're not

01:43:57.819 --> 01:43:59.720
allowed to do that or not supposed to do that

01:43:59.720 --> 01:44:04.140
anyways. But by putting condoms in all women's

01:44:04.140 --> 01:44:07.640
facilities, not only are you essentially allowing

01:44:07.640 --> 01:44:13.000
it, it's as if you're encouraging it. Yeah. Crazy.

01:44:13.340 --> 01:44:15.880
It's nuts. But I mean, how many pregnancies did

01:44:15.880 --> 01:44:18.380
they have before they had to do that? How many

01:44:18.380 --> 01:44:20.539
instances of STDs did they have before they had

01:44:20.539 --> 01:44:22.159
to do that? And that's the thing I've seen in

01:44:22.159 --> 01:44:24.460
California prisons now where AIDS and HIV is

01:44:24.460 --> 01:44:29.180
running rampant in women's prisons. I know it.

01:44:29.899 --> 01:44:32.859
It's crazy. But again, to your point, like even

01:44:32.859 --> 01:44:34.640
the whole language thing we talked about, like

01:44:34.640 --> 01:44:41.359
we don't see men's language being. And infiltrated

01:44:41.359 --> 01:44:44.439
and taken over like we have this attack on the

01:44:44.439 --> 01:44:46.720
word woman or the word female. There was just

01:44:46.720 --> 01:44:49.520
a bill in California again last week where it

01:44:49.520 --> 01:44:51.659
would replace female in all state statute with

01:44:51.659 --> 01:44:54.460
the word person. We're not seeing that go the

01:44:54.460 --> 01:44:58.960
other way. I think for a couple of reasons. First

01:44:58.960 --> 01:45:02.319
and foremost, men wouldn't put up with it for

01:45:02.319 --> 01:45:04.260
a second. Could you imagine, right? Like women

01:45:04.260 --> 01:45:07.039
are now called cervix havers. or uterus owners,

01:45:07.220 --> 01:45:10.159
or menstruators, or bleeders, or chest feeders,

01:45:10.159 --> 01:45:13.939
or birthing person. Could you imagine the equivalent,

01:45:14.020 --> 01:45:18.760
right, to egg producer? If we started calling

01:45:18.760 --> 01:45:21.439
men sperm producers, or we started calling men

01:45:21.439 --> 01:45:25.680
erection havers, could you imagine the outrage

01:45:25.680 --> 01:45:29.399
from men? But it shows you, too, like, the minute

01:45:29.399 --> 01:45:31.119
men felt threatened with the whole Bud Light

01:45:31.119 --> 01:45:34.920
thing. Bud Light essentially lost $27 billion

01:45:34.920 --> 01:45:38.939
overnight. But their next commercial, which shows

01:45:38.939 --> 01:45:40.840
you how money moves a lot of this stuff, their

01:45:40.840 --> 01:45:42.859
next commercial was a big burly man on a motorcycle

01:45:42.859 --> 01:45:45.520
with a camo can. Like, they're not following

01:45:45.520 --> 01:45:47.359
red or blue. They're following green. But it

01:45:47.359 --> 01:45:50.640
shows you, too, like, we talk a lot, especially

01:45:50.640 --> 01:45:52.760
in this space that I've kind of been involved

01:45:52.760 --> 01:45:55.939
in, of the physical differences between men and

01:45:55.939 --> 01:46:00.960
women. But I think how the whole language scene.

01:46:01.689 --> 01:46:05.050
How I portray it is we see the innate characteristic

01:46:05.050 --> 01:46:07.649
differences between men and women because the

01:46:07.649 --> 01:46:10.390
same assertive dominant men who have always and

01:46:10.390 --> 01:46:13.449
will always be men are the same men claiming

01:46:13.449 --> 01:46:15.909
to be women demanding the language that we use.

01:46:16.010 --> 01:46:19.189
And the same apologetic, emotionally driven,

01:46:19.449 --> 01:46:22.829
empathetic women who have been and will always

01:46:22.829 --> 01:46:26.470
be women, when they enter into a man's space,

01:46:26.550 --> 01:46:29.090
they're not demanding anything. Because, again,

01:46:29.189 --> 01:46:30.689
they're the same women they always have been.

01:46:30.750 --> 01:46:33.029
And it shows the differences that we possess

01:46:33.029 --> 01:46:36.409
within our characteristics almost innately. Without

01:46:36.409 --> 01:46:39.029
a doubt. And it's such an important point to

01:46:39.029 --> 01:46:40.810
point out because this is the problem that a

01:46:40.810 --> 01:46:43.529
lot of feminists are having, where these biological

01:46:43.529 --> 01:46:46.430
males are calling themselves women and entering

01:46:46.430 --> 01:46:48.270
into these women's spaces and then dominating

01:46:48.270 --> 01:46:50.609
the way men dominate things. Right. And behaving

01:46:50.609 --> 01:46:55.829
the way men behave. Of course. And it's... unfortunately,

01:46:55.970 --> 01:46:58.949
a lot of it is supported by a lot of these older

01:46:58.949 --> 01:47:02.770
liberal women, which is really strange. It's

01:47:02.770 --> 01:47:06.909
like they can't see, like, this is you. This

01:47:06.909 --> 01:47:11.090
is your group. And for being virtuous for the

01:47:11.090 --> 01:47:14.369
sake of, like, signaling to the tribe that you're

01:47:14.369 --> 01:47:17.350
willing to be a fucking loon and buy into this

01:47:17.350 --> 01:47:20.689
where it makes no sense whatsoever, it's a tribal

01:47:20.689 --> 01:47:23.180
thing. It's a cult thing. I testified before

01:47:23.180 --> 01:47:26.579
Congress last month or whenever it was about

01:47:26.579 --> 01:47:30.319
the importance of or I guess really urging the

01:47:30.319 --> 01:47:32.159
Biden administration to halt with their illegal

01:47:32.159 --> 01:47:34.840
administrative rewrite of Title IX. I've testified

01:47:34.840 --> 01:47:36.579
before Congress and the Senate many times. And

01:47:36.579 --> 01:47:42.159
so which it's unfathomable to me that a 23 year

01:47:42.159 --> 01:47:45.079
old recent college graduate college swimmer at

01:47:45.079 --> 01:47:49.199
that has to go to D .C. to sit in front. of our

01:47:49.199 --> 01:47:51.260
members of Congress, again, the beating heart

01:47:51.260 --> 01:47:53.579
of the American Republic, and explain to them

01:47:53.579 --> 01:47:55.100
that men and women are different. And then to

01:47:55.100 --> 01:47:56.600
be on the other side of that table and watch

01:47:56.600 --> 01:47:58.720
as they have these super confused looks on their

01:47:58.720 --> 01:48:03.920
faces. And so I'm there testifying. One of the

01:48:03.920 --> 01:48:07.460
Democrat witnesses, I forget her name, but she

01:48:07.460 --> 01:48:09.960
was the president of the National Women's Law

01:48:09.960 --> 01:48:12.600
Center. In her testimony, she says that women

01:48:12.600 --> 01:48:14.920
should just learn how to lose more gracefully.

01:48:15.060 --> 01:48:18.579
I'm like, Did you really just say that? And you're

01:48:18.579 --> 01:48:22.319
the president of the National Women's Law Center.

01:48:22.420 --> 01:48:25.039
What a disgrace you are. What a crazy thing to

01:48:25.039 --> 01:48:28.939
say. And it was hilarious because Representative

01:48:28.939 --> 01:48:32.439
Lee, a Democrat from Pennsylvania, she was the

01:48:32.439 --> 01:48:35.180
ranking member, supposed to be, I believe, Katie

01:48:35.180 --> 01:48:37.119
Porter, who didn't show up. But anyways, ranking

01:48:37.119 --> 01:48:41.460
member Lee. She starts reading her opening monologue.

01:48:42.120 --> 01:48:44.260
The first words that come out of her mouth is

01:48:44.260 --> 01:48:45.920
she says, I can't believe that I'm forced to

01:48:45.920 --> 01:48:48.039
sit here and listen to this transphobic bigotry.

01:48:48.340 --> 01:48:50.439
And really, I felt so sad when I heard that,

01:48:50.500 --> 01:48:53.460
because, again, a sitting member of Congress.

01:48:53.520 --> 01:48:57.939
And she resorts to name calling, not dissuading

01:48:57.939 --> 01:49:01.020
from my side with facts or logic or reasoning

01:49:01.020 --> 01:49:02.920
or common sense or science. What happened to

01:49:02.920 --> 01:49:05.460
follow the science? Right. Name calling. And

01:49:05.460 --> 01:49:10.560
so it's my turn to read my testimony. And I read

01:49:10.560 --> 01:49:13.279
it. I finish it. And I didn't even mean to say

01:49:13.279 --> 01:49:15.699
this, but it just kind of came out of my mouth.

01:49:15.760 --> 01:49:16.960
And I looked at her and I said, Representative

01:49:16.960 --> 01:49:21.279
Lee, if my opening testimony makes me transphobic,

01:49:21.420 --> 01:49:25.859
then understand, by your own logic, your opening

01:49:25.859 --> 01:49:29.640
monologue makes you a misogynist. Which, as you

01:49:29.640 --> 01:49:32.840
can imagine, sent the hearing into a tailspin.

01:49:33.460 --> 01:49:36.920
I don't think she... has ever actually heard

01:49:36.920 --> 01:49:39.939
this word misogynist accurately used in a sentence.

01:49:40.600 --> 01:49:42.920
Because about 60 seconds later, after her staff

01:49:42.920 --> 01:49:44.819
ran over to her and showed her the definition,

01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:47.159
about 60 seconds later, she raises her hand and

01:49:47.159 --> 01:49:50.260
she says, I want her words removed from the record

01:49:50.260 --> 01:49:52.659
on the grounds of engaging in personalities,

01:49:52.800 --> 01:49:55.229
is what she said, which. Marjorie Taylor Greene

01:49:55.229 --> 01:49:57.050
was in that hearing. And so she buzzes in and

01:49:57.050 --> 01:49:59.449
she says, I would call a man posing as a woman,

01:49:59.470 --> 01:50:01.270
someone who's engaging in personalities. And

01:50:01.270 --> 01:50:03.369
then it's like then it's really like I'm like,

01:50:03.449 --> 01:50:05.930
oh, gosh, what have I done? No, it's a Jerry

01:50:05.930 --> 01:50:08.029
Springer show. Totally. I'm like, oh, gosh, people

01:50:08.029 --> 01:50:11.409
are about to start jumping over tables. But anyways,

01:50:11.810 --> 01:50:14.600
let it be known. congressional record still stands

01:50:14.600 --> 01:50:17.119
there was no grounds to remove my words uh she

01:50:17.119 --> 01:50:19.880
is in fact still listed as a misogynist her wikipedia

01:50:19.880 --> 01:50:22.119
page even says it because someone sent it to

01:50:22.119 --> 01:50:24.739
me the other day which i think is hilarious but

01:50:24.739 --> 01:50:27.659
anyways all that to show um they hate when their

01:50:27.659 --> 01:50:29.460
own intersectional language is used against them

01:50:29.460 --> 01:50:32.020
am i thinking behind that right like if being

01:50:32.020 --> 01:50:35.000
pro -woman because that's my stance it's pro

01:50:35.000 --> 01:50:37.279
-reality pro -fairness pro -truth pro -common

01:50:37.279 --> 01:50:39.739
sense pro -woman right if being pro -woman is

01:50:39.739 --> 01:50:43.579
seen as anti -trans then wouldn't being seen

01:50:43.579 --> 01:50:47.840
as being pro -trans inherently be anti -woman.

01:50:48.020 --> 01:50:49.680
And what do we call someone who's anti -woman?

01:50:50.119 --> 01:50:52.239
A misogynist. We call them a misogynist. Yeah.

01:50:53.399 --> 01:50:56.260
It's just, it's so strange that the language

01:50:56.260 --> 01:50:59.899
has been twisted so far that just saying what

01:50:59.899 --> 01:51:02.119
you were saying about protecting women's sports,

01:51:02.359 --> 01:51:06.460
this person, their first response is to call

01:51:06.460 --> 01:51:10.600
it bigoted transphobia. It's so strange. Like,

01:51:10.640 --> 01:51:13.180
if you don't agree with me, you're Hitler. It's

01:51:13.180 --> 01:51:16.979
that far off. It is. It is. The names I've been

01:51:16.979 --> 01:51:20.060
called, right, everything under the sun, transphobic,

01:51:20.100 --> 01:51:22.239
homophobic, racist, white supremacist, domestic

01:51:22.239 --> 01:51:26.340
terrorist, a fascist, the list goes on. Which,

01:51:26.439 --> 01:51:28.079
again, it makes those words lose their meaning.

01:51:28.239 --> 01:51:29.979
It does. Like being a racist is a terrible thing.

01:51:30.199 --> 01:51:32.640
But you're going to call me a racist for saying

01:51:32.640 --> 01:51:36.520
that women deserve equal opportunities? Not really

01:51:36.520 --> 01:51:38.560
sure how that equates. And when you say that,

01:51:38.699 --> 01:51:42.949
the word racist loses its... Yeah, it's just

01:51:42.949 --> 01:51:45.250
people playing a game. It's whack -a -mole. They

01:51:45.250 --> 01:51:47.550
just find a target and they think they can go

01:51:47.550 --> 01:51:48.989
after it and they throw all their stupid words

01:51:48.989 --> 01:51:52.210
at it. And there's a giant percentage of this

01:51:52.210 --> 01:51:55.350
country that's mentally ill and also unstable

01:51:55.350 --> 01:51:58.600
in the sense of how they view the future. They

01:51:58.600 --> 01:52:00.819
see what's going on in Gaza. They see what's

01:52:00.819 --> 01:52:02.979
going on in Ukraine. They see President Biden

01:52:02.979 --> 01:52:05.000
getting tripped by ghosts. And they're like,

01:52:05.119 --> 01:52:07.659
what the fuck are we doing? Like, what is this?

01:52:07.720 --> 01:52:10.020
And they're all terrified. And they're engaged

01:52:10.020 --> 01:52:13.300
in all this online nonsense all day long, arguing

01:52:13.300 --> 01:52:15.739
with people. And they think they're activists

01:52:15.739 --> 01:52:18.220
and they're blocking the highway for climate

01:52:18.220 --> 01:52:20.899
change. They're just like a giant swath of our

01:52:20.899 --> 01:52:23.500
populations out of their fucking minds. And I

01:52:23.500 --> 01:52:27.210
don't fault them. You're being raised through

01:52:27.210 --> 01:52:30.090
this coddling university system. You're being

01:52:30.090 --> 01:52:33.909
introduced as a young, influential person to

01:52:33.909 --> 01:52:36.329
these preposterous Marxist ideas that have never

01:52:36.329 --> 01:52:38.289
worked anywhere that I always equate with rabies.

01:52:38.310 --> 01:52:40.850
It's like rabies kills like 99 percent of the

01:52:40.850 --> 01:52:43.170
people. Imagine being someone who's like, yeah,

01:52:43.270 --> 01:52:44.930
but it's just like no one's figured out how to

01:52:44.930 --> 01:52:47.649
do rabies right. Like I'm going to do rabies

01:52:47.649 --> 01:52:49.729
right. That's what communism is. It's totally

01:52:49.729 --> 01:52:51.729
it's ruined every single fucking country it's

01:52:51.729 --> 01:52:54.460
ever. been implemented in and we're like yeah

01:52:54.460 --> 01:52:56.819
but we got to do it right but we can do it it's

01:52:56.819 --> 01:52:58.779
the dumbest fucking idea of all time but young

01:52:58.779 --> 01:53:01.899
people are easily suggestible are easily influenced

01:53:01.899 --> 01:53:04.180
they don't they don't have life experiences they

01:53:04.180 --> 01:53:06.020
don't have a especially if you've never engaged

01:53:06.020 --> 01:53:08.500
in anything good truly difficult one thing i

01:53:08.500 --> 01:53:11.699
notice about like high level athletes in particular

01:53:11.699 --> 01:53:15.420
is that they're There's no room for bullshit.

01:53:15.720 --> 01:53:17.479
There's no room for bullshit. If you're in the

01:53:17.479 --> 01:53:19.800
pool six hours a day, there's no room for bullshit.

01:53:20.260 --> 01:53:23.579
There's no room for your fake talk and nonsense

01:53:23.579 --> 01:53:26.539
and this is what it is and if I don't appreciate

01:53:26.539 --> 01:53:28.680
it for what it is, then I'm losing time. Then

01:53:28.680 --> 01:53:31.720
I'm fucked and I'm behind. It's like there's

01:53:31.720 --> 01:53:34.880
a level of discipline that's involved. And it's

01:53:34.880 --> 01:53:37.060
one of the reasons why high -level athletes make

01:53:37.060 --> 01:53:40.119
great leaders because they have the ability to

01:53:40.119 --> 01:53:42.319
discern what's real and what's not real because

01:53:42.319 --> 01:53:43.500
they've had to deal with it with themselves.

01:53:43.739 --> 01:53:45.560
Exactly. Whereas a lot of people just don't.

01:53:45.560 --> 01:53:47.880
And so they just find other people online that

01:53:47.880 --> 01:53:50.279
can affirm their feelings. And then I developed

01:53:50.279 --> 01:53:52.199
a new Neo pronoun. And they're like, oh, you're

01:53:52.199 --> 01:53:56.000
amazing. It's like they get fucking cat ears

01:53:56.000 --> 01:53:59.000
on Twitch all day. We're like, this is the future.

01:53:59.220 --> 01:54:03.619
But it's true. This is our future. It is. I find

01:54:03.619 --> 01:54:05.840
that to be very true. There's, I think, an Ernst

01:54:05.840 --> 01:54:10.140
& Young study that showed, I think, 94 % of female

01:54:10.140 --> 01:54:13.359
executives, so C -level executives, so like a

01:54:13.359 --> 01:54:17.460
CEO, CMO, whatever, 94 % of those women were

01:54:17.460 --> 01:54:21.279
female athletes, which is to your point. It's

01:54:21.279 --> 01:54:23.119
because they understand leadership. They understand

01:54:23.119 --> 01:54:26.859
having a sense of... self that's bigger than

01:54:26.859 --> 01:54:30.420
yourself. Like it's these people who haven't

01:54:30.420 --> 01:54:31.899
played sports or really haven't been involved

01:54:31.899 --> 01:54:33.979
in anything other than like their weird activism.

01:54:34.220 --> 01:54:39.140
Like they don't understand what being on a team.

01:54:39.789 --> 01:54:42.569
And working together towards a goal, a tangible,

01:54:42.689 --> 01:54:45.789
real goal, is like. And that's why they're all

01:54:45.789 --> 01:54:48.430
selfish and narcissistic and entitled and little

01:54:48.430 --> 01:54:50.949
babies. Well, it's a much more difficult path.

01:54:51.170 --> 01:54:52.630
And most people aren't going to be willing to

01:54:52.630 --> 01:54:53.970
do it. They're not going to have the willpower.

01:54:54.090 --> 01:54:55.670
They're not going to have the discipline. And

01:54:55.670 --> 01:54:57.470
they're not going to continue, especially when

01:54:57.470 --> 01:54:59.670
you think about, like, your athletic career and

01:54:59.670 --> 01:55:01.670
how many accomplishments you achieved and then

01:55:01.670 --> 01:55:04.270
kept going and kept going and kept going. It's

01:55:04.270 --> 01:55:06.189
a very different mindset. But it's a mindset

01:55:06.189 --> 01:55:08.569
that if you can acquire at a young age, it does

01:55:08.569 --> 01:55:10.449
come with time. sacrifice and it comes with you're

01:55:10.449 --> 01:55:12.449
going to miss a lot of stuff. If you can acquire

01:55:12.449 --> 01:55:15.930
that, it will be a superpower for the rest of

01:55:15.930 --> 01:55:18.810
your life. Of course. And there's people that

01:55:18.810 --> 01:55:20.670
appreciate that. And there's people that don't

01:55:20.670 --> 01:55:23.550
understand that they're malnourished. They don't

01:55:23.550 --> 01:55:25.109
understand they're malnourished emotionally,

01:55:25.590 --> 01:55:29.029
physically, psychologically. They're malnourished.

01:55:29.090 --> 01:55:32.130
They haven't experienced enough truly difficult

01:55:32.130 --> 01:55:35.109
things like where they've had to power through

01:55:35.109 --> 01:55:37.770
and develop confidence and understand themselves.

01:55:38.539 --> 01:55:39.640
To the point where they don't even know what

01:55:39.640 --> 01:55:41.899
that means. No. So they're just out there screaming

01:55:41.899 --> 01:55:43.960
out the window. Screeching. Like the lady with

01:55:43.960 --> 01:55:47.020
the beanie on in the street. Ah! She's my favorite.

01:55:47.659 --> 01:55:50.279
She's my favorite. That fucking meme comes up

01:55:50.279 --> 01:55:52.460
so often. I love that lady. You like it every

01:55:52.460 --> 01:55:54.340
time. I bet she's a Republican now. Probably.

01:55:54.340 --> 01:55:57.039
I bet she got red -pilled. She's been red -pilled.

01:55:57.479 --> 01:55:58.340
Yeah, she's been red -pilled. She probably started

01:55:58.340 --> 01:56:00.220
watching some YouTube clips going, hey, wait

01:56:00.220 --> 01:56:01.619
a minute. Jordan Peterson makes some really good

01:56:01.619 --> 01:56:05.140
posts. Yeah. No, honestly. No, it's all true.

01:56:05.399 --> 01:56:10.060
It's a crazy world. Crazy times. Yeah. But here

01:56:10.060 --> 01:56:12.880
we are. Yeah. At least we can talk about it.

01:56:13.079 --> 01:56:15.039
And I think there's more people that are listening

01:56:15.039 --> 01:56:16.939
now than ever before because there's outlets

01:56:16.939 --> 01:56:18.779
where you can actually have these conversations

01:56:18.779 --> 01:56:21.479
instead of being trapped in some fucking MSNBC

01:56:21.479 --> 01:56:24.779
bubble. And it's real now. It's reality now.

01:56:24.859 --> 01:56:28.199
It's not just people saying things that sound.

01:56:28.720 --> 01:56:30.680
You know, like we were mentioning, like, I never

01:56:30.680 --> 01:56:32.800
want to sound like some big conspiracist or doomsday

01:56:32.800 --> 01:56:35.659
person who's like preparing for the end of the

01:56:35.659 --> 01:56:40.899
world. Right. Like, but, but, but, but it's like

01:56:40.899 --> 01:56:44.000
the stuff that maybe like we've said five years

01:56:44.000 --> 01:56:45.899
ago, 10 years ago, like we thought, oh, that

01:56:45.899 --> 01:56:49.149
will never happen. Right. We've arrived. Yeah,

01:56:49.170 --> 01:56:51.789
we've arrived. We're here. And I went off the

01:56:51.789 --> 01:56:55.310
train. I went off the roller coaster. But it's

01:56:55.310 --> 01:56:57.229
not that easy. And people are realizing that,

01:56:57.310 --> 01:57:01.449
like I said. So I think due time. It's hard to

01:57:01.449 --> 01:57:05.300
experience something and not be aware. that this

01:57:05.300 --> 01:57:09.319
is very unusual and it's just normal life for

01:57:09.319 --> 01:57:11.060
us. It's like, God, life is so crazy. But yeah,

01:57:11.119 --> 01:57:13.500
but if you could look at this from an overhead

01:57:13.500 --> 01:57:16.659
perspective, if you had like a graph and showing

01:57:16.659 --> 01:57:19.979
what's happening in the world from 2004 to 2024,

01:57:20.020 --> 01:57:22.880
you'd be like, whoa. And I honestly think about

01:57:22.880 --> 01:57:26.079
that with myself. Like I was one of those people,

01:57:26.159 --> 01:57:28.260
right? Like again, always been Christian, always

01:57:28.260 --> 01:57:34.029
have aligned with conservative values. But I

01:57:34.029 --> 01:57:37.090
had my head down. I was focused on my success,

01:57:37.189 --> 01:57:39.149
more importantly, my team's success. I was focused

01:57:39.149 --> 01:57:42.550
on my career. I was focused on my personal relationships,

01:57:42.810 --> 01:57:45.670
getting married at a young age in college. I

01:57:45.670 --> 01:57:49.149
was focused on not the cultural stuff going on

01:57:49.149 --> 01:57:53.949
around the world. So I think to myself, it is

01:57:53.949 --> 01:57:56.789
so unfortunate that I had to be directly impacted

01:57:56.789 --> 01:58:00.390
before I cared. But I did. Like, I honestly did.

01:58:00.510 --> 01:58:03.489
And if all of us have that same mindset that

01:58:03.489 --> 01:58:06.770
unfortunately I had, like, it's too late. We're

01:58:06.770 --> 01:58:09.550
screwed, quite frankly. Like, that's why it's

01:58:09.550 --> 01:58:13.270
crucial that you find your voice. You speak up

01:58:13.270 --> 01:58:15.170
about stuff. You call out an injustice when you

01:58:15.170 --> 01:58:17.630
see it. You hold their feet to the fire before

01:58:17.630 --> 01:58:19.930
you're directly impacted. Because, again, if

01:58:19.930 --> 01:58:23.250
we all wait just like I did, and I wonder to

01:58:23.250 --> 01:58:26.869
myself, like, Obviously, this is not the path

01:58:26.869 --> 01:58:29.109
I would be on if I hadn't spoken up about it

01:58:29.109 --> 01:58:33.270
at the time. But like, would I? I shouldn't say

01:58:33.270 --> 01:58:35.109
what I care. I think I would always care. But

01:58:35.109 --> 01:58:37.649
like, would I take action to do something about

01:58:37.649 --> 01:58:41.310
it if it hadn't impacted me? Probably not. Like

01:58:41.310 --> 01:58:43.630
being real here. Like, I know myself. I know.

01:58:44.569 --> 01:58:46.970
Again, I always would have seen it as wrong and

01:58:46.970 --> 01:58:49.489
something that's harmful to society for sure,

01:58:49.550 --> 01:58:53.539
but not enough harm. being done that I would

01:58:53.539 --> 01:58:56.239
feel compelled to speak about it. But it took

01:58:56.239 --> 01:58:59.920
me being impacted. So if it can be of encouragement

01:58:59.920 --> 01:59:02.220
to anyone else and why it's crucial that we do

01:59:02.220 --> 01:59:07.239
find our voices and we do act boldly and courageously,

01:59:07.300 --> 01:59:10.159
which I hate to say, it even requires courage

01:59:10.159 --> 01:59:14.739
to say the things that you and I say, like, that

01:59:14.739 --> 01:59:16.920
shouldn't be courageous. That shouldn't be brave.

01:59:17.159 --> 01:59:19.319
No, you know who's brave? What about those three

01:59:19.319 --> 01:59:21.720
soldiers who were just transferred back? from

01:59:21.720 --> 01:59:24.260
Jordan a couple weeks ago or our law enforcement

01:59:24.260 --> 01:59:27.039
officers or first responders or our veterans

01:59:27.039 --> 01:59:28.779
or our active duty officers. Like, those people

01:59:28.779 --> 01:59:32.279
are brave. Not me for saying there are two sexes,

01:59:32.279 --> 01:59:34.920
you can't change your sex, and each sex is deserving

01:59:34.920 --> 01:59:38.720
of equal opportunity, privacy, and safety. But

01:59:38.720 --> 01:59:40.899
it is. I understand that it does require a sense

01:59:40.899 --> 01:59:45.720
of courage. So if that can be an encouragement.

01:59:45.720 --> 01:59:47.380
I agree with everything you said about soldiers.

01:59:47.880 --> 01:59:49.880
first responders, but you're being very brave

01:59:49.880 --> 01:59:52.899
as well. It's like there's a real social pushback

01:59:52.899 --> 01:59:55.220
that's very difficult for a lot of people to

01:59:55.220 --> 01:59:59.619
handle. And in a time where people are so concerned

01:59:59.619 --> 02:00:01.600
with mental health, why are you not concerned

02:00:01.600 --> 02:00:03.119
with the mental health of people that you attack?

02:00:03.399 --> 02:00:05.520
Because you're not, because you treat them as

02:00:05.520 --> 02:00:07.399
non -humans. And you're allowed to do it under

02:00:07.399 --> 02:00:12.199
the guise of tolerance and acceptance. But that

02:00:12.199 --> 02:00:15.119
is not what I see. It's nonsense. And it's a

02:00:15.119 --> 02:00:16.960
trap. It's a trap for them, too. You're not supposed

02:00:16.960 --> 02:00:19.180
to be behaving like that. You should be embarrassed

02:00:19.180 --> 02:00:21.399
yourself if this is the way you engage with ideas.

02:00:21.840 --> 02:00:24.600
If your ideas were strong enough to stand on

02:00:24.600 --> 02:00:26.729
their own, they should be. They should be debated

02:00:26.729 --> 02:00:29.789
with a bunch of people that are rational and

02:00:29.789 --> 02:00:31.909
level -headed and can talk about the pros and

02:00:31.909 --> 02:00:33.609
cons of each one of those things. And if they

02:00:33.609 --> 02:00:35.810
did that, this trans thing would have never gotten

02:00:35.810 --> 02:00:37.649
into women's sports. Not a single fucking time.

02:00:37.829 --> 02:00:41.069
All the data, every single piece of data, shows

02:00:41.069 --> 02:00:42.869
that men have an advantage. They have an advantage

02:00:42.869 --> 02:00:45.729
in spatial geometry. They have an advantage in

02:00:45.729 --> 02:00:47.949
lung size, heart size. They have an advantage

02:00:47.949 --> 02:00:50.050
in the shape of the hips. They have an advantage

02:00:50.050 --> 02:00:53.090
pretty much across the board in bone density,

02:00:53.250 --> 02:00:55.149
except some populations of African Americans.

02:00:55.149 --> 02:00:57.850
american women but then in some men you know

02:00:57.850 --> 02:00:59.630
like weightlifters are different like there's

02:00:59.630 --> 02:01:02.369
a bunch of variabilities but reaction time is

02:01:02.369 --> 02:01:04.750
way faster there's a bunch of things and there's

02:01:04.750 --> 02:01:07.729
also the male mind like the hunter -gatherer

02:01:07.729 --> 02:01:10.449
mind that's a real thing right there's something

02:01:10.449 --> 02:01:14.109
to that and it's why men win at chess doesn't

02:01:14.109 --> 02:01:16.270
make any fucking sense right like why aren't

02:01:16.270 --> 02:01:19.319
women better at chess Why do men win at pool?

02:01:19.760 --> 02:01:23.020
What is it about the high -level competitors

02:01:23.020 --> 02:01:24.939
and a bunch of these different things that don't

02:01:24.939 --> 02:01:27.939
seem to require physical strength where men still

02:01:27.939 --> 02:01:29.640
win? Because there's some creepy advantage that

02:01:29.640 --> 02:01:32.840
men have. And I get pushback for this all the

02:01:32.840 --> 02:01:35.720
time, especially on the chess thing. Like I say,

02:01:35.939 --> 02:01:39.539
if it's a women's chess tournament, men shouldn't

02:01:39.539 --> 02:01:41.399
play. And people will come for me, the trans

02:01:41.399 --> 02:01:42.920
rights activists, and they'll say, oh my gosh,

02:01:43.079 --> 02:01:47.140
you're saying that women are... stupider than

02:01:47.140 --> 02:01:49.720
men. And I'm like, hold on. First of all, it's

02:01:49.720 --> 02:01:52.220
not what I'm saying. Second of all, I don't care

02:01:52.220 --> 02:01:54.060
if it's chess. I don't care if it's poker. I

02:01:54.060 --> 02:01:57.640
don't care. I don't care what it is. Again, if

02:01:57.640 --> 02:02:01.000
it's for women, it's for women, bottom line.

02:02:01.220 --> 02:02:03.319
Right. So, yeah. If it's a woman's tea party.

02:02:03.779 --> 02:02:06.060
It's for women. It's for women. Yeah. It's like

02:02:06.060 --> 02:02:08.279
they just want a place where they could have

02:02:08.279 --> 02:02:12.579
no men. Yeah. That should be okay. Yeah. It should

02:02:12.579 --> 02:02:14.560
be okay if men want to have a men's only cigar

02:02:14.560 --> 02:02:17.460
bar. That should be okay. Yeah. If it's your

02:02:17.460 --> 02:02:19.140
business. It's a good point. It goes both ways.

02:02:19.300 --> 02:02:21.760
Like we talk a lot about the perspective from

02:02:21.760 --> 02:02:24.979
women's privacy and safety and different things

02:02:24.979 --> 02:02:27.640
being threatened, but men are just as deserving

02:02:27.640 --> 02:02:29.560
as single sex basis. But here's the difference.

02:02:29.720 --> 02:02:32.680
Men don't feel physically threatened if a trans

02:02:32.680 --> 02:02:35.460
man is in the locker room with me. No. Like if

02:02:35.460 --> 02:02:36.979
a trans man's in the locker room with me, I'm

02:02:36.979 --> 02:02:38.979
like, what's up, dude? Like, I don't care. Right.

02:02:39.439 --> 02:02:42.039
I'm not nervous you're going to rape me. Right.

02:02:42.180 --> 02:02:43.920
Right. I'm not nervous. You can see my dick.

02:02:44.020 --> 02:02:47.439
This is normal stuff. Right. But if a woman is

02:02:47.439 --> 02:02:50.220
in a locker room with a fully intact man who's

02:02:50.220 --> 02:02:52.039
six foot four is walking around pretending he's

02:02:52.039 --> 02:02:54.640
a woman. That's madness. Now you're like, oh,

02:02:54.659 --> 02:02:57.500
my God, like the no rules apply. Exactly. What

02:02:57.500 --> 02:03:00.739
happened to perverts? They're still there. Yeah.

02:03:01.159 --> 02:03:02.399
They're still there. But now they're amazing.

02:03:02.699 --> 02:03:05.220
But now they're beautiful. It's just a weird

02:03:05.220 --> 02:03:07.779
fucking thing that everyone's accepted. And that

02:03:07.779 --> 02:03:11.119
to push back on it like this is seen as so problematic.

02:03:11.939 --> 02:03:16.140
Controversial. It's so transphobic. It's just

02:03:16.140 --> 02:03:18.539
so confusing. But I think it's shifting the other

02:03:18.539 --> 02:03:21.579
way. I really do. Because I see it with young

02:03:21.579 --> 02:03:24.119
kids today. I see it with like high school kids.

02:03:24.260 --> 02:03:28.380
I see it with most people that I interact with

02:03:28.380 --> 02:03:31.920
on a daily basis are happy that someone is saying

02:03:31.920 --> 02:03:34.460
something about this instead of just what they

02:03:34.460 --> 02:03:36.479
see in The New York Times and what they see in

02:03:36.479 --> 02:03:40.279
all the mainstream, which if you had to like

02:03:40.279 --> 02:03:43.859
make a list of all mainstream media, whether

02:03:43.859 --> 02:03:49.699
it is newspapers, magazines, television channels,

02:03:49.819 --> 02:03:53.390
what's the ratio? of liberal to conservative

02:03:53.390 --> 02:03:58.510
is it like 10 to 1 8 to 1 what is it i mean probably

02:03:58.510 --> 02:04:00.569
about right especially if you're looking at a

02:04:00.569 --> 02:04:03.550
lot of the local yeah local outlets local papers

02:04:03.550 --> 02:04:07.670
right like there's a ton more liberal outlets

02:04:07.670 --> 02:04:09.989
i think from you know mainstream media like we

02:04:09.989 --> 02:04:13.750
have cnn and we have fox um but in terms of who

02:04:13.750 --> 02:04:19.050
controls the media definitely I mean, probably

02:04:19.050 --> 02:04:21.689
10 to 1. I don't know. If I wanted to destroy

02:04:21.689 --> 02:04:24.890
the country and I was some evil person from another

02:04:24.890 --> 02:04:27.689
planet or wherever and I had my tinfoil hat and

02:04:27.689 --> 02:04:29.430
I was looking at this, like, I would say, well,

02:04:29.449 --> 02:04:31.649
this is a good way to do it. Like, just control

02:04:31.649 --> 02:04:33.989
all the media and have all the media say all

02:04:33.989 --> 02:04:36.489
these things like life -saving, gender -affirming

02:04:36.489 --> 02:04:38.689
care. Say those statements a lot and, you know,

02:04:38.710 --> 02:04:41.189
trans rights and this administration is committed

02:04:41.189 --> 02:04:42.750
to trans rights. Oh, trans rights. That's important.

02:04:42.949 --> 02:04:45.409
And, like, everybody else is a Nazi, so you've

02:04:45.409 --> 02:04:46.510
got to be on board with this. I want to know.

02:04:47.180 --> 02:04:49.439
You know, I hear all the time trans rights are

02:04:49.439 --> 02:04:52.460
human rights. Literally, what right do you or

02:04:52.460 --> 02:04:55.279
I possess that a trans person or someone who

02:04:55.279 --> 02:04:58.520
identifies as trans doesn't possess? It's a good

02:04:58.520 --> 02:05:03.100
point. They have extra ones. Exactly. But honestly,

02:05:03.220 --> 02:05:06.779
it's so true. Exactly. Like the whole idea of

02:05:06.779 --> 02:05:12.079
all the DEI, affirmative action stuff. We are

02:05:12.079 --> 02:05:14.979
living in a time, the most diverse and inclusive

02:05:14.979 --> 02:05:19.020
as a nation we have ever been. Yet people are

02:05:19.020 --> 02:05:21.039
still acting like this is the most oppressed

02:05:21.039 --> 02:05:23.819
they've ever been. Which shows you truly, like,

02:05:23.899 --> 02:05:28.920
these people aren't happy with themselves. Like,

02:05:28.960 --> 02:05:32.300
if you have to demand what someone else calls

02:05:32.300 --> 02:05:36.699
you to feel affirmed. You're clearly not secure

02:05:36.699 --> 02:05:38.859
enough with yourself. And I'm not going to affirm

02:05:38.859 --> 02:05:40.560
that. If you don't even know what you are, you

02:05:40.560 --> 02:05:44.000
expect me to know what you are? No way. You don't

02:05:44.000 --> 02:05:46.060
even know what you are. Well, it's a compliance

02:05:46.060 --> 02:05:48.960
thing. But it's like, look, there's always going

02:05:48.960 --> 02:05:52.279
to be people taking advantage of any sort of

02:05:52.279 --> 02:05:58.079
discourse, any sort of like. open subject of

02:05:58.079 --> 02:06:01.560
discussion that's hot on everybody's mind, which

02:06:01.560 --> 02:06:05.640
is whether it's race or any when it's race, you're

02:06:05.640 --> 02:06:07.880
always going to have race hustlers. You're always

02:06:07.880 --> 02:06:10.020
going to have these Al Sharpton type characters

02:06:10.020 --> 02:06:13.979
slide on in and they act as a spokesperson. And,

02:06:14.079 --> 02:06:16.520
you know, and there's always going to be business

02:06:16.520 --> 02:06:19.659
behind that. Like Jesse Jackson had like a whole

02:06:19.659 --> 02:06:22.779
business behind that. And you're always going

02:06:22.779 --> 02:06:24.260
to have these folks. They're always going to

02:06:24.260 --> 02:06:26.220
have these folks that, you know, may. provide

02:06:26.220 --> 02:06:29.739
some good but also make a lot of money and they're

02:06:30.280 --> 02:06:32.319
They're at the forefront of all these things.

02:06:32.420 --> 02:06:33.779
And you're going to have that with trans rights.

02:06:33.920 --> 02:06:35.140
You're going to have that with gay rights. You're

02:06:35.140 --> 02:06:36.239
going to have that with everything. You're always

02:06:36.239 --> 02:06:38.159
going to have some people that capitalize on

02:06:38.159 --> 02:06:41.039
something and they interject themselves into

02:06:41.039 --> 02:06:43.859
it and they use it to like stir people up. And

02:06:43.859 --> 02:06:47.199
they always call people either racist or transphobic

02:06:47.199 --> 02:06:50.060
or homophobic. And they use all those pejoratives.

02:06:50.680 --> 02:06:52.119
You're always going to have those people. But

02:06:52.119 --> 02:06:53.939
we have to learn how to ignore those morons.

02:06:54.039 --> 02:06:56.000
We have to learn how to just recognize like that

02:06:56.000 --> 02:06:58.659
person. And honestly, like what I've realized.

02:06:59.500 --> 02:07:02.000
Because, again, like initially taking that first

02:07:02.000 --> 02:07:04.340
step, it was hard for me to read a lot of the

02:07:04.340 --> 02:07:07.359
things that were written. And like because, again,

02:07:07.460 --> 02:07:10.039
a very natural woman, I think thing, I think

02:07:10.039 --> 02:07:14.340
a pretty human thing like I don't I don't want

02:07:14.340 --> 02:07:16.119
to ruffle feathers. I don't want to step on toes.

02:07:16.220 --> 02:07:19.520
I don't want to be disrespectful. So it's hard

02:07:19.520 --> 02:07:21.560
for me to read a lot of what was being said about

02:07:21.560 --> 02:07:24.800
me online. But I realized pretty quickly, honestly,

02:07:24.979 --> 02:07:29.149
that the. The hate and the attacks that I were

02:07:29.149 --> 02:07:30.909
getting were kind of they kind of fell into three

02:07:30.909 --> 02:07:33.189
categories. One of three. One, it was calling

02:07:33.189 --> 02:07:35.310
me some sort of phobia or ism. And like I said,

02:07:35.329 --> 02:07:37.930
those words lost their their meaning pretty quickly

02:07:37.930 --> 02:07:41.350
to me, too. It was some sort of personal attack,

02:07:41.590 --> 02:07:45.210
like you're ugly or like your hair extensions

02:07:45.210 --> 02:07:48.949
look bad. And I'm like, this is my real hair.

02:07:49.449 --> 02:07:53.170
Thank you. Question mark or something to the

02:07:53.170 --> 02:07:54.569
effect of maybe you should have just trained

02:07:54.569 --> 02:07:57.170
harder, which is. Keith Olbermann. Right. Someone

02:07:57.170 --> 02:08:00.189
eating Cheetos. Exactly. And once you realize

02:08:00.189 --> 02:08:03.750
once you realize there's no substance to anything

02:08:03.750 --> 02:08:07.310
these people are saying, really. And understanding

02:08:07.310 --> 02:08:09.029
the profiles, because, again, all of this is

02:08:09.029 --> 02:08:10.470
pretty much done through social media. I will

02:08:10.470 --> 02:08:12.569
tell you, other than protesters I've had like

02:08:12.569 --> 02:08:16.189
at campuses or events or something like I have

02:08:16.189 --> 02:08:19.470
never once had someone in my day to day life

02:08:19.470 --> 02:08:22.500
come up to me and say. something negative but

02:08:22.500 --> 02:08:25.079
i've had thousands say something positive so

02:08:25.079 --> 02:08:26.479
again most of this is done through social media

02:08:26.479 --> 02:08:28.720
what i've noticed about the profiles it's coming

02:08:28.720 --> 02:08:31.760
from they don't have a profile picture a lot

02:08:31.760 --> 02:08:33.640
of time they're scared to put their own face

02:08:33.640 --> 02:08:38.920
and name to it two uh they are someone who you

02:08:38.920 --> 02:08:41.239
can tell has never played a sport in their entire

02:08:41.239 --> 02:08:44.640
life and who has no grasp of of the importance

02:08:44.640 --> 02:08:47.520
of playing sports and honestly the importance

02:08:47.520 --> 02:08:51.739
of winning and succeeding in your sport and how

02:08:51.739 --> 02:08:55.020
hard that is and how hard it is to do exactly

02:08:55.020 --> 02:08:59.180
once you once i realized this conglomerate of

02:08:59.180 --> 02:09:02.810
things I thought to myself, gosh, this speaks

02:09:02.810 --> 02:09:04.829
a whole lot more to their own insecurities than

02:09:04.829 --> 02:09:07.729
it does my own. And now I have no problem reading

02:09:07.729 --> 02:09:10.050
these comments. And most of the time I don't

02:09:10.050 --> 02:09:10.810
read them. You're reading the comments of people

02:09:10.810 --> 02:09:12.510
that you would never communicate with in real

02:09:12.510 --> 02:09:15.189
life. Exactly. And also a bunch of those burner

02:09:15.189 --> 02:09:16.909
accounts, they're probably not even American.

02:09:17.090 --> 02:09:19.930
No. It's probably a lot of troll farms are attached

02:09:19.930 --> 02:09:23.869
to it because it's a socially viable issue. And

02:09:23.869 --> 02:09:27.449
understanding like social media is so not representative

02:09:27.449 --> 02:09:31.100
of. reality of real life so where you get these

02:09:31.100 --> 02:09:33.760
influx of negative comments that's not representative

02:09:33.760 --> 02:09:37.899
of any normal population even in like your most

02:09:37.899 --> 02:09:41.100
liberal states like this issue consistently polls

02:09:41.100 --> 02:09:44.899
at 75 plus percent of americans even in san francisco

02:09:44.899 --> 02:09:48.260
oh i don't know about san francisco san francisco

02:09:48.260 --> 02:09:51.000
maybe 75 the other way yeah honestly no everyone

02:09:51.000 --> 02:09:53.500
should be trans yeah right you know what i'm

02:09:53.500 --> 02:09:55.619
hoping i'm really genuinely hoping this is the

02:09:55.619 --> 02:09:58.520
cure for all this If genetic engineering reaches

02:09:58.520 --> 02:10:00.340
a point where someone actually can become a woman.

02:10:00.979 --> 02:10:03.000
Okay, but what's the qualifications for that?

02:10:03.220 --> 02:10:07.180
What would you say a man who fully became a woman,

02:10:07.359 --> 02:10:09.640
what would that mean? Like a uterus? Everything.

02:10:10.220 --> 02:10:13.619
Well, what is it? Is it like a uterus implant?

02:10:14.140 --> 02:10:18.899
No. Like we switch it all up. So? You put them

02:10:18.899 --> 02:10:21.060
in a box. Like a Barbie? You hit the button.

02:10:22.880 --> 02:10:26.489
And you come out. Matilda. I'll wait for that

02:10:26.489 --> 02:10:28.149
day. You get to be a woman. I mean, that's the

02:10:28.149 --> 02:10:29.710
only way it's ever going to really work. Because

02:10:29.710 --> 02:10:32.430
this idea of, like, surgery. I don't know if

02:10:32.430 --> 02:10:33.670
I'm... Like, all you're doing is art. You're

02:10:33.670 --> 02:10:35.510
doing art on a person's body. But wouldn't that

02:10:35.510 --> 02:10:38.329
be a machine that did that, too? No, no, no.

02:10:38.409 --> 02:10:40.750
It's cellular. It's molecular. Oh. It's breaking

02:10:40.750 --> 02:10:41.850
down your DNA. Okay, so you're talking about

02:10:41.850 --> 02:10:44.949
changing, like, chromosomes. Yeah. Well, in the

02:10:44.949 --> 02:10:46.930
future, they're going to be able to do something

02:10:46.930 --> 02:10:49.850
probably pretty similar to that. They're already

02:10:49.850 --> 02:10:54.090
developing ways to edit genes. In China, these

02:10:54.090 --> 02:10:55.529
guys got arrested because they made these kids

02:10:55.529 --> 02:10:59.310
smarter. They literally edited the genes. They

02:10:59.310 --> 02:11:00.850
said they were just doing it to prevent HIV.

02:11:01.210 --> 02:11:03.649
Like, oh, we made them smarter. Whoops. Whoops.

02:11:03.989 --> 02:11:06.470
Accidental. Sorry. And this is all just, by the

02:11:06.470 --> 02:11:09.210
way, what we know about. I'm sure there's some

02:11:09.210 --> 02:11:10.890
top secret stuff that they've tried on human

02:11:10.890 --> 02:11:14.329
beings. There's no way they haven't. In the HIV

02:11:14.329 --> 02:11:18.770
era, in the AIDS epidemic, they – They experimented

02:11:18.770 --> 02:11:21.170
on foster kids. They experimented with vaccines

02:11:21.170 --> 02:11:23.010
on foster kids and killed some of them. It's

02:11:23.010 --> 02:11:25.409
documented. You could read all about it. The

02:11:25.409 --> 02:11:27.550
idea that they wouldn't clone people, shut the

02:11:27.550 --> 02:11:29.810
fuck up. They will do whatever they want. Whatever

02:11:29.810 --> 02:11:32.170
they want. Especially in China, somewhere they

02:11:32.170 --> 02:11:33.949
can get away with it. So they're going to get

02:11:33.949 --> 02:11:36.050
to a point where they understand how to create

02:11:36.050 --> 02:11:39.340
a human being. And they'll probably say, listen,

02:11:39.899 --> 02:11:42.380
Riley, you know, as you get older, wouldn't it

02:11:42.380 --> 02:11:44.220
be nice to take your 80 -year -old brain, stick

02:11:44.220 --> 02:11:46.579
it in 20 -year -old Riley's body? Let's go. I'd

02:11:46.579 --> 02:11:48.560
like that. It would be dope, right? And then

02:11:48.560 --> 02:11:49.659
people are going to go, well, you know, it's

02:11:49.659 --> 02:11:51.479
really effective. My aunt did it, and she's incredible

02:11:51.479 --> 02:11:53.880
now. And you're an 80 -year -old person with

02:11:53.880 --> 02:11:56.859
a 20 -year -old body. And eventually they're

02:11:56.859 --> 02:11:58.180
just going to be able to turn you into whatever

02:11:58.180 --> 02:12:01.619
they want. It's going to be very bizarre. They're

02:12:01.619 --> 02:12:03.619
going to be able to change your height, change

02:12:03.619 --> 02:12:07.319
your intellect, change if they. find certain

02:12:07.319 --> 02:12:10.020
things that would lead you to maybe have tuberculosis.

02:12:10.079 --> 02:12:12.300
They'll delete that, change this, edit that.

02:12:12.380 --> 02:12:13.979
Yeah, we're going to be editing human beings.

02:12:13.979 --> 02:12:16.300
Which sounds crazy. But this, what we're living

02:12:16.300 --> 02:12:17.979
through would have sounded crazy 10 years ago.

02:12:17.979 --> 02:12:21.420
This is crazy. I mean, you and I could FaceTime.

02:12:21.840 --> 02:12:24.180
I could be in Hawaii and you could be on Mount

02:12:24.180 --> 02:12:26.380
Everest. And if there's surface up there, you

02:12:26.380 --> 02:12:29.119
could FaceTime. You could just talk to someone

02:12:29.119 --> 02:12:31.079
on the other side of the planet instantaneously.

02:12:31.079 --> 02:12:33.600
It's bananas. And we just take it for granted.

02:12:33.680 --> 02:12:35.319
We take for granted that we all have like...

02:12:36.039 --> 02:12:38.380
We could make a movie with this stupid little

02:12:38.380 --> 02:12:41.020
thing that sits in our pocket. Crazy. And we

02:12:41.020 --> 02:12:44.060
have access to any... Any answer to any question

02:12:44.060 --> 02:12:46.239
we can have, as long as Google approves it. As

02:12:46.239 --> 02:12:47.640
long as Google approves it. You know one of the

02:12:47.640 --> 02:12:49.180
things that Google didn't approve? Tell me. That

02:12:49.180 --> 02:12:53.020
story about the trans woman who, through Canadian

02:12:53.020 --> 02:12:55.939
services, so this is paid for by the Canadian

02:12:55.939 --> 02:12:58.579
government, decides that they want to breastfeed.

02:12:58.840 --> 02:13:01.939
And breastfeeds and develops milk through these

02:13:01.939 --> 02:13:04.000
medications and breastfeeds their nine -month

02:13:04.000 --> 02:13:06.859
-old baby. Sick. I tried Googling this. I couldn't

02:13:06.859 --> 02:13:09.420
find it. Sick. I go page after page after page.

02:13:09.579 --> 02:13:12.680
I go straight to DuckDuckGo. Bam. It's the second

02:13:12.680 --> 02:13:14.960
article. Crazy. I'm like, they're hiding this.

02:13:15.000 --> 02:13:20.819
They're hiding this story that is relevant. No.

02:13:22.060 --> 02:13:25.199
Did it? Maybe it's me. Maybe there's something

02:13:25.199 --> 02:13:29.720
with my Google algorithm. No, but it's true.

02:13:29.960 --> 02:13:33.140
No, but this is February 2018. This is a new

02:13:33.140 --> 02:13:37.939
one. The new one is a 50 -year -old man who there's

02:13:37.939 --> 02:13:41.289
something creepy about him. This is a new one,

02:13:41.390 --> 02:13:43.649
Jamie. This isn't the one. See, this is why I

02:13:43.649 --> 02:13:47.310
couldn't find it. Go to DuckDuckGo. Is it right

02:13:47.310 --> 02:13:49.390
there? Oh, that's right. They're HIV positive.

02:13:49.470 --> 02:13:52.229
That's right. This is an HIV positive man, but

02:13:52.229 --> 02:13:53.949
two, by the way, who's breastfeeding his baby.

02:13:54.470 --> 02:13:58.109
Oh, my God. Super cool. Super. Super cool. Okay.

02:13:58.210 --> 02:14:00.189
How innovative. You can find it. I couldn't fucking

02:14:00.189 --> 02:14:01.810
find it, Jamie. Maybe they changed it after we

02:14:01.810 --> 02:14:03.029
complained about it because I complained about

02:14:03.029 --> 02:14:06.510
it more than once. But I found it on DuckDuckGo

02:14:06.510 --> 02:14:10.180
like that. Oh, my gosh. Like that. But that story

02:14:10.180 --> 02:14:13.760
is insane. And if you have a hard time, and Google

02:14:13.760 --> 02:14:18.460
does, they curate searches. It's a fact. Of course.

02:14:18.520 --> 02:14:21.399
And Robert Epstein, who's a guy who's sort of

02:14:21.399 --> 02:14:24.279
documented how this affects elections, says this

02:14:24.279 --> 02:14:26.840
is essentially election manipulation to the point

02:14:26.840 --> 02:14:30.439
where statistically you can prove that due to

02:14:30.439 --> 02:14:34.960
search engine results, you can move a candidate

02:14:34.960 --> 02:14:37.850
one way or the other, that it's possible. Because

02:14:37.850 --> 02:14:41.270
if you Google Donald Trump and you only find

02:14:41.270 --> 02:14:44.550
the most horrendous negative things. Donald Trump's

02:14:44.550 --> 02:14:47.489
success and then you find corruption and scandal

02:14:47.489 --> 02:14:49.109
and greed. That's all you can find. And it takes

02:14:49.109 --> 02:14:52.569
forever and ever. Right. But if you say Joe Biden

02:14:52.569 --> 02:14:54.529
and you talk about the accomplishments, the up

02:14:54.529 --> 02:14:56.750
in the economy, the three years, everything's

02:14:56.750 --> 02:14:58.710
going great. Look at the inclusiveness. Look

02:14:58.710 --> 02:15:00.869
at how many lesbians are in the office. And when

02:15:00.869 --> 02:15:03.810
you do that, if that's all you find, a certain

02:15:03.810 --> 02:15:06.710
percentage of low information voters are going

02:15:06.710 --> 02:15:08.869
to go to that. And it's enough to move the needle

02:15:08.869 --> 02:15:11.449
by like 10 percent, 13 percent. Probably more

02:15:11.449 --> 02:15:14.159
than honestly with how. how much people rely

02:15:14.159 --> 02:15:16.779
on social media. Yeah. Honestly. And when you

02:15:16.779 --> 02:15:18.920
saw what Google did with their fucking wacky

02:15:18.920 --> 02:15:21.779
AI, where their wacky AI would not show white

02:15:21.779 --> 02:15:27.359
men. I don't even, I can't even. It's so crazy.

02:15:27.380 --> 02:15:28.720
The founding fathers. Do they realize they're

02:15:28.720 --> 02:15:31.380
creating, like when they do stuff like that,

02:15:31.399 --> 02:15:34.170
they create more of a divide. Again, under the

02:15:34.170 --> 02:15:37.050
guise of unity. I don't think they realized how

02:15:37.050 --> 02:15:38.989
nutty they had programmed that. Or again, maybe

02:15:38.989 --> 02:15:40.449
they want the divide. I don't think they realized

02:15:40.449 --> 02:15:42.689
how nutty they had programmed it, nor do I think

02:15:42.689 --> 02:15:44.770
even though they're in the internet, I think

02:15:44.770 --> 02:15:47.130
they're in the internet in this very leftist

02:15:47.130 --> 02:15:49.449
liberal bubble. And I don't think they truly

02:15:49.449 --> 02:15:52.970
comprehend like 4chan and truly comprehend all

02:15:52.970 --> 02:15:54.229
the people that are going to be very suspicious

02:15:54.229 --> 02:15:57.550
of Google's AI and ask it trick questions. I

02:15:57.550 --> 02:15:59.609
want to know what Google's AI says about you.

02:16:00.029 --> 02:16:04.319
Oh, God. I don't know. It can't be good. That's

02:16:04.319 --> 02:16:06.380
actually a good thing. It can't be good. But

02:16:06.380 --> 02:16:09.500
I mean, you know. Fortunately, I've achieved

02:16:09.500 --> 02:16:13.939
escape velocity. It's big enough for people to

02:16:13.939 --> 02:16:15.859
actually know who I am. You can talk all the

02:16:15.859 --> 02:16:17.460
shit you want. It's a good point. Yeah, but that's

02:16:17.460 --> 02:16:19.659
what it is. But it takes a while to get there.

02:16:19.819 --> 02:16:22.159
And they'll try to stop you every step of the

02:16:22.159 --> 02:16:25.239
way. And if you do achieve escape velocity, then

02:16:25.239 --> 02:16:26.800
they kind of shut up about you because then they

02:16:26.800 --> 02:16:28.539
realize every time they talk about you, it actually

02:16:28.539 --> 02:16:31.260
makes you bigger. Which is this whole stuff with

02:16:31.260 --> 02:16:34.520
Donald Trump. Like everything that's going on.

02:16:35.209 --> 02:16:37.889
With taking him off the ballots and I mean, all

02:16:37.889 --> 02:16:39.389
the different attacks they've had on him, trying

02:16:39.389 --> 02:16:41.409
to indict him and arrest him and blah, blah,

02:16:41.450 --> 02:16:47.149
blah. It's significantly helping him. Again,

02:16:47.250 --> 02:16:50.010
are they that stupid where they don't realize

02:16:50.010 --> 02:16:53.989
it? Or like, are we are we being naive? Is this

02:16:53.989 --> 02:16:56.110
something they're going for? Like, I just it's

02:16:56.110 --> 02:16:58.729
hard to it's hard to grasp. It's hard to fathom.

02:16:58.729 --> 02:17:01.110
Well, it's people in a spiral and it's like.

02:17:01.549 --> 02:17:03.209
You know, people that are really emotional, they

02:17:03.209 --> 02:17:04.670
don't realize that what they're doing is actually

02:17:04.670 --> 02:17:07.010
hurting it. You know, just screaming out a car

02:17:07.010 --> 02:17:09.069
window. It's a fuck you. No, fuck you. You're

02:17:09.069 --> 02:17:10.389
not getting anything done. You're not getting

02:17:10.389 --> 02:17:12.110
anything done here. No, but they're just caught

02:17:12.110 --> 02:17:15.069
up in it and they just want him to lose. And

02:17:15.069 --> 02:17:17.010
they had hope. They saw that he was being removed

02:17:17.010 --> 02:17:19.950
from ballots like, yes, justice is served. It's

02:17:19.950 --> 02:17:21.889
all those Biden super fans. The New York Times

02:17:21.889 --> 02:17:24.030
interviewed all these fucking zombies walking

02:17:24.030 --> 02:17:25.549
around New York City with their little dogs.

02:17:25.629 --> 02:17:30.530
He's the best. They're out of their fucking minds.

02:17:30.950 --> 02:17:32.590
No disrespect to little dogs, Carl. I was going

02:17:32.590 --> 02:17:37.610
to say, justice for Carl. Justice for Carl. We

02:17:37.610 --> 02:17:41.489
love Carl. But these people are literal zombies,

02:17:41.709 --> 02:17:45.350
and there's a lot of them. Too many. And enough

02:17:45.350 --> 02:17:48.209
people that aren't that have to recognize that

02:17:48.209 --> 02:17:50.190
this is what you're dealing with. You're dealing

02:17:50.190 --> 02:17:52.610
with a giant percentage of the population that's

02:17:52.610 --> 02:17:55.329
literally lost its marbles. So what do we do?

02:17:55.549 --> 02:17:59.059
Keep talking. Keep talking, Riley. Yeah. Because

02:17:59.059 --> 02:18:00.920
people will listen to you. I was hoping you'd

02:18:00.920 --> 02:18:02.979
give me something more profound. I don't think

02:18:02.979 --> 02:18:08.239
there is. Honestly, though, like, it is mind

02:18:08.239 --> 02:18:11.180
-numbing to a degree to have to keep saying the

02:18:11.180 --> 02:18:15.379
same thing. Right. Like, I'm sick of saying that

02:18:15.379 --> 02:18:18.719
men and women are different. Yeah. But it is.

02:18:18.719 --> 02:18:21.620
I do. I agree. Like, you have to understand,

02:18:21.780 --> 02:18:24.700
like, not everyone hears that. So many people

02:18:24.700 --> 02:18:27.659
are deceived. Like, you can't even blame them.

02:18:28.139 --> 02:18:31.020
because they don't know right from wrong. You

02:18:31.020 --> 02:18:32.700
can't blame them for not doing right if they

02:18:32.700 --> 02:18:34.940
were never really taught right. They don't know

02:18:34.940 --> 02:18:37.920
what right is. They've probably been taught something

02:18:37.920 --> 02:18:40.159
completely different than that. They've probably

02:18:40.159 --> 02:18:43.020
been taught some very skewed version of reality.

02:18:44.120 --> 02:18:46.579
And, you know, unfortunately, there's no like

02:18:46.579 --> 02:18:48.840
mental health test to see if you should be raising

02:18:48.840 --> 02:18:51.280
children. You just get to raise them. And you're

02:18:51.280 --> 02:18:53.559
if you're a loon, your kids are probably going

02:18:53.559 --> 02:18:55.559
to be loony, too. And the only thing that's going

02:18:55.559 --> 02:18:57.680
to get them out of them are at least castrating

02:18:57.680 --> 02:19:01.989
themselves or not reproducing. I just don't know

02:19:01.989 --> 02:19:05.170
how those people get out of this. I think for

02:19:05.170 --> 02:19:07.690
the logical sane people, there's enough of us

02:19:07.690 --> 02:19:09.610
talking that we're just going, this is insane.

02:19:09.909 --> 02:19:12.250
Like what you're doing is you're leading us down

02:19:12.250 --> 02:19:15.250
this road to demise and there's no roadmap. No

02:19:15.250 --> 02:19:18.190
one knows where we're going. And if you're going

02:19:18.190 --> 02:19:21.430
to change the definitions of everything and what

02:19:21.430 --> 02:19:25.200
Vivek... wisely calls the tyranny of the oppressed,

02:19:25.479 --> 02:19:28.420
that the oppressed are forcing everyone else

02:19:28.420 --> 02:19:31.379
to comply with their desires and needs. And he's

02:19:31.379 --> 02:19:32.959
right about that because that is what it is.

02:19:33.040 --> 02:19:36.000
And they feel because they have that title, they're

02:19:36.000 --> 02:19:39.200
above all the tyranny of the oppressed. Exactly.

02:19:39.340 --> 02:19:43.399
Yeah. But if people listen to you, actually listen

02:19:43.399 --> 02:19:45.520
to you and not just read the bullshit and the

02:19:45.520 --> 02:19:48.530
clickbait and listen to you talk, they see. A

02:19:48.530 --> 02:19:51.409
very accomplished woman who's done amazing things

02:19:51.409 --> 02:19:53.229
in the world of athletics, who is confronted

02:19:53.229 --> 02:19:56.290
by this very unique challenge, and you're uniquely

02:19:56.290 --> 02:20:00.010
qualified to handle it. And so I think that's

02:20:00.010 --> 02:20:02.149
what they're going to get out of this. I hope

02:20:02.149 --> 02:20:07.309
so. Because, again, that's really all this is.

02:20:07.409 --> 02:20:09.409
I just wanted to swim. I just wanted to compete

02:20:09.409 --> 02:20:16.329
fairly. And then, boom, that was impacted. And

02:20:16.329 --> 02:20:18.020
here we are. Just trying to make a difference

02:20:18.020 --> 02:20:20.770
when and where we can. That's certainly what

02:20:20.770 --> 02:20:23.290
I hope people see me as. You're right. Getting

02:20:23.290 --> 02:20:26.670
past the headlines. Anti -trans swimmer slams

02:20:26.670 --> 02:20:29.709
Leah Thomas. It's all that reductionist view

02:20:29.709 --> 02:20:32.170
of a human being. They just try to paint you

02:20:32.170 --> 02:20:34.250
in the worst possible light. The bigotry and

02:20:34.250 --> 02:20:37.329
the transphobia. Stop using those words and just

02:20:37.329 --> 02:20:39.469
talk about the reality of the facts of what we're

02:20:39.469 --> 02:20:41.010
talking about here. And you realize you don't

02:20:41.010 --> 02:20:43.309
have an argument. Your argument is based on nonsense.

02:20:43.690 --> 02:20:46.549
Exactly. That's what every parent needs to wake

02:20:46.549 --> 02:20:49.250
up and recognize. That's what every person hearing

02:20:49.250 --> 02:20:50.680
this. is that every person that works in the

02:20:50.680 --> 02:20:53.360
schools needs to recognize you're talking nonsense

02:20:53.360 --> 02:20:56.260
and you're likely encouraging people who are

02:20:56.260 --> 02:20:59.040
mentally ill and maybe narcissists to dominate

02:20:59.040 --> 02:21:02.940
women's sports. Mostly narcissists. A lot of

02:21:02.940 --> 02:21:06.079
them. A ton of them. More than one. More than

02:21:06.079 --> 02:21:10.040
one. A ton of them. And they're encouraging this

02:21:10.040 --> 02:21:12.020
and they're making this person go from being

02:21:12.020 --> 02:21:14.500
a mediocre male swimmer to being a fucking hero.

02:21:14.760 --> 02:21:16.979
Exactly. And that's nonsense. And if we want

02:21:16.979 --> 02:21:19.000
to embrace nonsense, that's the road to demise.

02:21:19.399 --> 02:21:22.180
Because nonsense does not stop there. If we can

02:21:22.180 --> 02:21:24.139
get away with that nonsense, it's going to go

02:21:24.139 --> 02:21:25.620
further and further and further. Bring on the

02:21:25.620 --> 02:21:27.620
next thing. Bring on the next thing. Minor attracted

02:21:27.620 --> 02:21:32.149
persons. And it sounds nuts. If you had told

02:21:32.149 --> 02:21:34.329
me this a long time ago, I'd have said, dude,

02:21:34.530 --> 02:21:36.649
don't bring that up. That sounds insane. No one's

02:21:36.649 --> 02:21:38.069
really going to accept that. But when you see

02:21:38.069 --> 02:21:41.989
people openly on film who are this lady from

02:21:41.989 --> 02:21:45.049
Kentucky, this Democrat representative or senator

02:21:45.049 --> 02:21:49.670
or whatever she is in Kentucky, who was mentioning

02:21:49.670 --> 02:21:53.090
in in their state, in their state legislature,

02:21:53.290 --> 02:21:55.549
said something to the effect of, look, you know,

02:21:55.569 --> 02:22:00.510
these minor attracted. There's a lot of benefit

02:22:00.510 --> 02:22:03.370
to having child sex dolls because it can help

02:22:03.370 --> 02:22:08.750
decrease their appeal and desires for actually,

02:22:08.850 --> 02:22:13.270
you know, pursuing young children. So there was

02:22:13.270 --> 02:22:16.790
a bill introduced that would do just that. And

02:22:16.790 --> 02:22:20.389
I see this and I'm like, this lady is evil. There's

02:22:20.389 --> 02:22:23.149
really no other word for it. She's evil. And

02:22:23.149 --> 02:22:24.549
then the next day she comes out after it got

02:22:24.549 --> 02:22:28.340
national attention of. what she had said and

02:22:28.340 --> 02:22:32.840
what she was advocating for is helping. I wouldn't

02:22:32.840 --> 02:22:35.819
even say it's helping curb these sexual predators'

02:22:36.040 --> 02:22:39.780
desires. It's feeding into it, honestly. Right,

02:22:39.799 --> 02:22:41.659
because if you've had that desire but never did

02:22:41.659 --> 02:22:44.819
it, and then you get a robot doll that's a little

02:22:44.819 --> 02:22:46.840
boy, that's the sickest thing I've ever heard.

02:22:46.959 --> 02:22:48.500
But she came out the next day and said, you know,

02:22:48.620 --> 02:22:52.920
I just feel like we should have room as adults

02:22:52.920 --> 02:22:57.120
for open discussions. There is no open discussion

02:22:57.120 --> 02:22:59.299
for pedophiles. There is no open discussions.

02:22:59.340 --> 02:23:02.299
I guess unless it's electric chair or life in

02:23:02.299 --> 02:23:04.459
prison, maybe we can have that discussion. But

02:23:04.459 --> 02:23:07.659
other than that, there is no discussion for pedophiles

02:23:07.659 --> 02:23:10.020
in this country, in this world. I wonder if that

02:23:10.020 --> 02:23:14.129
woman has children. Probably. That's scary. Isn't

02:23:14.129 --> 02:23:16.709
it? That's scary. And it's and again, it's just

02:23:16.709 --> 02:23:19.649
this cult thinking. And I don't know how it got

02:23:19.649 --> 02:23:21.850
into the education system. And I don't know how

02:23:21.850 --> 02:23:23.629
it got into these people's mouths where they

02:23:23.629 --> 02:23:26.030
got so confident in saying it that they could

02:23:26.030 --> 02:23:27.770
say it in front of cameras. Well, it's because

02:23:27.770 --> 02:23:30.110
they're teaching it. Even if you look at something

02:23:30.110 --> 02:23:33.170
like Scholastic, right, like they put on these

02:23:33.170 --> 02:23:35.989
big book fairs and different things like obviously

02:23:35.989 --> 02:23:38.649
we've seen the books that they're bringing in

02:23:38.649 --> 02:23:42.309
to to school. I mean, to grades as young as kindergarten.

02:23:43.319 --> 02:23:46.340
is crazy, which is why it's important to find

02:23:46.340 --> 02:23:48.899
alternatives. Like there's an alternative for

02:23:48.899 --> 02:23:51.840
everything, whether it's skincare. OK, don't

02:23:51.840 --> 02:23:55.319
use Dove. We just saw their Super Bowl commercial,

02:23:55.500 --> 02:23:59.440
which was it was so funny. It was the protagonist

02:23:59.440 --> 02:24:03.120
was a young girl swimmer in a locker room. And

02:24:03.120 --> 02:24:06.280
the punchline of the whole commercial was about

02:24:06.280 --> 02:24:09.459
keeping girls in girl sports. So I see this watching

02:24:09.459 --> 02:24:11.500
the Super Bowl and I'm like, oh, my gosh, this

02:24:11.500 --> 02:24:15.430
is like the first. big organization who is like

02:24:15.430 --> 02:24:18.389
standing with women and like defending women's

02:24:18.389 --> 02:24:20.709
sports and saying no men in women's sports. I'm

02:24:20.709 --> 02:24:23.790
like, this is great. So I go to their like social

02:24:23.790 --> 02:24:26.489
media profiles because I'm like really trying

02:24:26.489 --> 02:24:28.629
to look into this and see if anyone else caught

02:24:28.629 --> 02:24:30.370
on to this or if it was just me and I was being

02:24:30.370 --> 02:24:34.250
hypervigilant. They were hiding all the replies

02:24:34.250 --> 02:24:36.909
that had mentioned keeping men out of women's

02:24:36.909 --> 02:24:39.149
sports. So I was like, oh my gosh, what virtue

02:24:39.149 --> 02:24:42.690
signaling. Fools, really. So instead of using

02:24:42.690 --> 02:24:45.290
Dove, use something like Mimi Skincare. They

02:24:45.290 --> 02:24:48.930
were hiding the replies. So they made that ad,

02:24:49.090 --> 02:24:54.610
and they made that ad presumably for pro women

02:24:54.610 --> 02:24:59.209
in women's sports, right? Yeah, but their hook

02:24:59.209 --> 02:25:04.030
to it was speaking to the mental health of female

02:25:04.030 --> 02:25:06.290
athletes. But I saw it and was like, oh, the

02:25:06.290 --> 02:25:09.860
best way to keep girls... Yeah, but Dove has

02:25:09.860 --> 02:25:13.420
outwardly expressed the last Olympics in 2020

02:25:13.420 --> 02:25:16.819
when Laurel Hubbard, or 2016, Laurel Hubbard,

02:25:16.979 --> 02:25:19.920
a man, powerlifter from New Zealand, they were

02:25:19.920 --> 02:25:21.780
like, we love you, Laurel Hubbard. Here's our

02:25:21.780 --> 02:25:25.420
products. Be an ambassador, whatever. So they

02:25:25.420 --> 02:25:29.000
really don't. They do, but the best way to keep

02:25:29.000 --> 02:25:31.979
girls in girls' sports is to keep boys and men

02:25:31.979 --> 02:25:34.319
out of girls' sports. So don't use Dove. Use

02:25:34.319 --> 02:25:36.959
something like Nimi skincare. Or don't wear...

02:25:37.890 --> 02:25:40.790
Don't shop at Target. Use something like Yakima

02:25:40.790 --> 02:25:43.809
apparel or Unitas or Scholastic back to Scholastic.

02:25:43.809 --> 02:25:47.229
Right. Don't use Scholastic. Don't buy your books

02:25:47.229 --> 02:25:49.549
from Scholastic. Use something like Brave Books,

02:25:49.750 --> 02:25:51.809
which is a phenomenal group, an organization

02:25:51.809 --> 02:25:55.190
that produced these like pro -God, pro -country,

02:25:55.309 --> 02:25:59.069
pro -America, pro -family, wholesome books that

02:25:59.069 --> 02:26:02.250
aren't political. They're not partisan. But again,

02:26:02.309 --> 02:26:04.530
virtuous. And I think what kids need to read.

02:26:04.629 --> 02:26:06.350
So I think there's alternatives for everything.

02:26:06.450 --> 02:26:08.409
And I think that's how we make a difference ultimately,

02:26:08.610 --> 02:26:10.690
because like we've said, this movement really

02:26:10.690 --> 02:26:15.250
is driven by dollar signs and by money. And so

02:26:15.250 --> 02:26:17.489
while of course not everyone can give financially,

02:26:17.569 --> 02:26:20.709
what everyone can do is stop giving your money

02:26:20.709 --> 02:26:23.530
to organizations and companies that hate you.

02:26:23.690 --> 02:26:26.329
Well, I think people woke up to that with Bud

02:26:26.329 --> 02:26:28.909
Light. Definitely. That's a real factor. And

02:26:28.909 --> 02:26:31.430
it works. It worked. And then they also woke

02:26:31.430 --> 02:26:34.989
up to it with Google after Google's AI. Their

02:26:34.989 --> 02:26:36.989
stock crashed hard. People are like, what the

02:26:36.989 --> 02:26:39.510
fuck are you doing? Because it was so nutty.

02:26:39.530 --> 02:26:41.270
Like, how could anybody invest in this? Like,

02:26:41.270 --> 02:26:43.510
let's get out of this now. And what did they

02:26:43.510 --> 02:26:45.350
lose? How much did Google lose from that? Something

02:26:45.350 --> 02:26:50.090
like $9 billion. Crazy. And that's, you got lucky

02:26:50.090 --> 02:26:52.270
there. Yeah. No one should trust you ever again.

02:26:52.549 --> 02:26:54.450
No. If I was thinking about using a Google phone,

02:26:54.549 --> 02:26:56.799
I see that, I'm like, what? Fuck out of here.

02:26:57.120 --> 02:27:00.799
What you've done is most importantly, you become

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like a logical face of all this and a reasonable

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face of all this and a person who can handle

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it. And you're really good at like confronting

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people that oppose it. And it's an interesting

02:27:10.520 --> 02:27:12.780
thing to watch you navigate it, but you're doing

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it really well. Well, it's worth it. It's worth

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it and it's necessary. So bring it on. Bring

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it on. Bring on the men in dresses. I'm ready

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for them. There's a lot of things that scare

02:27:26.209 --> 02:27:28.469
me, but a man in a dress will never be one of

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them. Okay. Well, listen, Riley, I really enjoyed

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talking to you. I appreciate what you're doing.

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And, again, your courage. I know you don't like

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to think about it that way, but it is courageous.

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And it's important. And it's important for people

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to see the real you. Well, thank you. And I hope

02:27:43.530 --> 02:27:46.700
we did that. Definitely. I've got a book. that

02:27:46.700 --> 02:27:50.799
has uh just dropped it is being released in may

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um but believe it or not of course this is this

02:27:54.120 --> 02:27:59.040
is the short to kind of i guess the how and the

02:27:59.040 --> 02:28:01.159
why right like the how i got here the why i got

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here uh it's called swimming against the current

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uh fighting for common sense in a world that's

02:28:05.700 --> 02:28:09.739
lost its mind i also have a podcast of my own

02:28:09.739 --> 02:28:12.500
with outkick called gains for girls um which

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has been super fun to be on the other side of

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things But really, I couldn't appreciate you

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more giving the opportunity on a very large scale

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and really important for me to like it's not

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just preaching to the choir. A lot of the rooms

02:28:29.260 --> 02:28:31.600
I find myself in, it's talking to people who

02:28:31.600 --> 02:28:34.579
agree with me, which is great. Like, but that's

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not who we need to reach. That's not who we need

02:28:36.420 --> 02:28:37.979
to persuade, because, again, they already agree.

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So I could not be more grateful for the opportunity

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to reach some people who aren't. Fox News watchers.

02:28:46.079 --> 02:28:48.280
Pretty incredible. So very grateful. My pleasure.

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Thank you very much. Yes, thank you. Bye, everybody.