WEBVTT 00:00:01.610 --> 00:00:04.730 Welcome to this curated educational transcript of the Joe Rogan Experience. In this session, we provide a deep-dive examination of the critical perspectives and historical dialogues presented in Episode #2285. Our mission is to offer a high-fidelity, searchable research resource for students of cultural history, emerging technology, and global discourse. This transcript has been specifically optimized for academic reference, linguistic study, and archival preservation regarding Comedy Industry Disruption, Digital Media Entrepreneurship, and Modern Satire Theory. Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan 00:00:04.730 --> 00:00:08.130 Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by 00:00:08.130 --> 00:00:15.509 night, all day. Oprah's doing an episode on psychedelics. 00:00:15.509 --> 00:00:17.829 God bless. How about that? God bless. That means 00:00:17.829 --> 00:00:20.429 she's definitely done it. Yeah, you don't do 00:00:20.429 --> 00:00:24.070 a fucking, are we rolling yet? Are we rolling? 00:00:24.309 --> 00:00:27.410 Yeah? Yeah. Yeah, you don't do an episode on 00:00:27.410 --> 00:00:29.370 psychedelics unless you fucking visited the Maya. 00:00:29.370 --> 00:00:31.390 Unless you dabbled. Unless you got in there. 00:00:31.589 --> 00:00:34.130 You think it's ayahuasca or mushrooms? Most of 00:00:34.130 --> 00:00:36.189 those fancy people like to do the ayahuasca. 00:00:36.329 --> 00:00:38.990 Yeah. You know, because then you can claim spirituality 00:00:38.990 --> 00:00:42.689 above all other people. Oh, you think there's 00:00:42.689 --> 00:00:45.770 like a pretentiousness? Oh, 100%. There's a, 00:00:45.969 --> 00:00:49.130 I've done it. I've done it. I've experienced 00:00:49.130 --> 00:00:53.250 the mother God. Yeah. The God. Yeah. I've experienced 00:00:53.250 --> 00:00:58.280 Gaia. Yeah. It's like, I think. I think people 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:01.560 do really do experience that, but also there's 00:01:01.560 --> 00:01:04.040 a certain type of personality that wants to let 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:07.239 you know that they're enlightened. Yeah. They're 00:01:07.239 --> 00:01:09.959 further down the road than you, Andrew. Yeah. 00:01:11.180 --> 00:01:14.799 Yeah. One way to get instant street cred in the 00:01:14.799 --> 00:01:17.239 psychedelics world is to say you do ayahuasca. 00:01:17.340 --> 00:01:19.040 Yeah. If you do mushrooms, you might just be 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:21.280 some asshole at a party. You and your friends 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:23.359 are just fucking giggling nonstop on the couch. 00:01:23.500 --> 00:01:25.379 It could be that. There's no points in mushrooms. 00:01:25.579 --> 00:01:27.480 Right. You don't get points for that. You can 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:30.900 say you took a heroic dose. You'll get points 00:01:30.900 --> 00:01:34.219 amongst the learned. Yeah. But the casuals don't 00:01:34.219 --> 00:01:35.500 give a fuck. The casuals don't give a fuck. You 00:01:35.500 --> 00:01:37.180 do ayahuasca, we're going to pay attention a 00:01:37.180 --> 00:01:38.260 little bit. Yeah, the casuals are going to go, 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:40.159 why did you eat eight grams? Yeah. That seems 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:42.400 crazy. But the other people are going to go, 00:01:42.500 --> 00:01:45.939 whoa, what was that like? Yeah. Oprah's out here. 00:01:46.379 --> 00:01:47.959 Oprah's out here pushing it. I wonder if it's 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:53.420 like a... Yeah. I mean, this is on my friend 00:01:53.420 --> 00:01:58.659 Mark Bell's page, Mark Smelly Bell. And he said, 00:01:58.780 --> 00:02:00.500 what fucking year are we living in? Like, what 00:02:00.500 --> 00:02:04.019 is happening here? What's going on? Yeah. I wonder 00:02:04.019 --> 00:02:07.000 if the ayahuasca thing is for some like a quick 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:09.580 fix. You know, they're looking for like immediate 00:02:09.580 --> 00:02:13.240 life change. Oh, yeah, for sure. And also, sometimes 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:16.439 your life has been such a colossal series of 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:20.699 failures that you want, like, some symbolic reset. 00:02:20.860 --> 00:02:23.500 Yeah. And probably there's a lot of value in, 00:02:23.659 --> 00:02:28.259 like, a real, like, set and setting, like, a 00:02:28.259 --> 00:02:30.960 ritual. Yeah. Like, I'm emerged, I'm a new person. 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:33.759 Yeah. At least maybe that bullshit will give 00:02:33.759 --> 00:02:37.199 you some momentum. For real. To kind of... Get 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:39.060 on the right track. I was talking to Neil about 00:02:39.060 --> 00:02:42.219 this. Neil Brennan, you know, he did it. He's 00:02:42.219 --> 00:02:43.979 done a lot of different things. Yeah, because 00:02:43.979 --> 00:02:45.780 he was trying. You know, he was really battling 00:02:45.780 --> 00:02:47.039 this stuff. He needs to get off that vegan diet. 00:02:47.340 --> 00:02:49.610 Yeah, maybe that's it. What if it's just... Chicken 00:02:49.610 --> 00:02:53.270 is all he needs. He's down in Costa Rica licking 00:02:53.270 --> 00:02:58.669 toads. For real. If I had that dude over my house 00:02:58.669 --> 00:03:00.569 and cooked him some elk steak, I'd change his 00:03:00.569 --> 00:03:03.370 fucking life. If you make an agreement, just 00:03:03.370 --> 00:03:05.650 eat this with me. He takes one bite and he's 00:03:05.650 --> 00:03:10.969 like, I am worthy. But I think he was talking 00:03:10.969 --> 00:03:14.710 about it. And he was, you know, one of his, like, 00:03:14.729 --> 00:03:16.990 superpowers is his, like, cynicism, right? And 00:03:16.990 --> 00:03:18.729 it's really debilitating. And I tell him this 00:03:18.729 --> 00:03:21.009 all the time, but, like, it's also amazing because 00:03:21.009 --> 00:03:23.349 he's, like, hyper aware of what the most negative 00:03:23.349 --> 00:03:25.770 thing could be. Right. So for joke writing, it's 00:03:25.770 --> 00:03:27.669 amazing. It's like he's constantly wondering, 00:03:27.689 --> 00:03:29.849 like, what would his biggest hater think? I actually 00:03:29.849 --> 00:03:31.949 think it was one of the reasons why Chappelle's 00:03:31.949 --> 00:03:35.310 show was so successful because it's like to create 00:03:35.310 --> 00:03:37.349 things, you need to be super confident. You need 00:03:37.349 --> 00:03:39.129 to not worry about who's going to criticize you. 00:03:39.419 --> 00:03:42.080 Yeah. So if you can outsource your criticism, 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:45.340 so if Dave can like think about these things 00:03:45.340 --> 00:03:47.580 and be like, okay, this is awesome. And then 00:03:47.580 --> 00:03:50.400 Neil can be like, yeah, but this would be said 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:53.159 if we do this. And then together you have this 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:55.159 like perfect combination of like uber confidence 00:03:55.159 --> 00:03:58.139 and then this insecurity. And then you make these 00:03:58.139 --> 00:04:00.080 things that are just masterpieces. And hyper 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:02.979 analytical insecurity. Yes. You know, like intelligent. 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:05.479 When you're smart and insecure, it's even worse. 00:04:05.879 --> 00:04:09.159 Dumb and insecure, you can manage. but then he 00:04:09.159 --> 00:04:11.979 said he did the ayahuasca and he was like yet 00:04:11.979 --> 00:04:15.280 gave me this like a Feeling of connectedness 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:17.680 or whatever people experience through it and 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:19.220 he's like it was really liberating I think I 00:04:19.220 --> 00:04:21.540 did my best work afterwards because I wasn't 00:04:21.540 --> 00:04:24.220 constantly beating myself up Like I was able 00:04:24.220 --> 00:04:27.180 to create so I think there is value in it But 00:04:27.180 --> 00:04:29.259 I do think sometimes people are looking for like 00:04:29.259 --> 00:04:32.339 the the quick Okay, my life has changed now and 00:04:32.339 --> 00:04:34.879 now I connect with the world and we're perfect. 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:37.100 You can always tell the guys who beat themselves 00:04:37.100 --> 00:04:41.500 up because they beat other people up too. What 00:04:41.500 --> 00:04:43.680 is it? Hurt people hurt people. Yeah, the guys 00:04:43.680 --> 00:04:45.480 who beat themselves up, they're always, like, 00:04:45.480 --> 00:04:47.439 super critical about it. But look at him. Look 00:04:47.439 --> 00:04:49.199 at his fucking bullshit act. Did you ever go 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:51.639 through a stage like that? Not really. Never? 00:04:51.779 --> 00:04:54.480 No. I figured it out when I was 21. Real lucky. 00:04:54.680 --> 00:04:56.019 I talked about this the other day. There was 00:04:56.019 --> 00:04:59.300 one time, it was an open mic night, and the guy 00:04:59.300 --> 00:05:01.040 went on after me. I was hoping that he would 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:03.220 bomb. And I remember thinking that, like, what 00:05:03.220 --> 00:05:06.100 a bitch -ass way to think that is. Yeah. Ugh. 00:05:06.740 --> 00:05:09.160 Yeah. That's such a bitch ass way to think. And 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:12.160 I completely shifted my perspective because like 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:13.819 you don't think like that with martial arts. 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:16.180 Like you can't think like that. You know, you 00:05:16.180 --> 00:05:18.060 can't think like that. You can't think like that 00:05:18.060 --> 00:05:20.399 ever. That's like a weak ass thought. Yes. And 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:23.279 then I realized like, oh, this is like your brain 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:27.459 trying to occupy itself with, you know, this 00:05:27.459 --> 00:05:31.120 time that's going to be between you and your 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:34.970 goal of. doing something in comedy and it's so 00:05:34.970 --> 00:05:37.649 far away you suck you're 21 years old and you 00:05:37.649 --> 00:05:39.870 suck so everybody else gotta suck so you want 00:05:39.870 --> 00:05:42.709 people to fail and you want to do better yeah 00:05:42.709 --> 00:05:46.089 it's like it's just a total scrambly I don't 00:05:46.089 --> 00:05:47.610 know what I'm doing with my life thought yeah 00:05:47.610 --> 00:05:49.649 and I realized I was like oh that's a bitch ass 00:05:49.649 --> 00:05:52.379 thought but that is very normal for human beings 00:05:52.379 --> 00:05:55.240 oh yeah there's a lot of bitches out there yeah 00:05:55.240 --> 00:05:57.759 like we're kind of bitch made in general like 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:00.459 it takes more effort to not be a bitch actually 00:06:00.459 --> 00:06:03.259 especially if you have a job so if you have a 00:06:03.259 --> 00:06:06.300 regular job job like an office job you will pretend 00:06:06.300 --> 00:06:08.980 to be a whole different person for eight hours 00:06:08.980 --> 00:06:12.019 a fucking day every day of your life that you're 00:06:12.019 --> 00:06:14.839 there yeah that is a lot of time bullshitting 00:06:14.839 --> 00:06:17.220 yeah and when you get out of all that bullshitting 00:06:17.220 --> 00:06:20.300 there's not much you left whatever could have 00:06:20.399 --> 00:06:23.399 been you never grew because whatever could have 00:06:23.399 --> 00:06:26.100 been you was stifled by fluorescent lights and 00:06:26.100 --> 00:06:28.360 a fucking monitor you're watching severance right 00:06:28.360 --> 00:06:31.120 oh yeah there i mean clearly it's a metaphor 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:33.019 for i don't know there's a lot of things that 00:06:33.019 --> 00:06:34.740 go on too there's a lot going on and also shout 00:06:34.740 --> 00:06:37.079 out ben stiller i didn't even know ben had this 00:06:37.079 --> 00:06:40.199 like level to him i've always respected ben i 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:41.540 thought he was hilarious making great comedy 00:06:41.540 --> 00:06:43.939 movies But I didn't know he was like an avant 00:06:43.939 --> 00:06:48.459 -garde storyteller. Right, right. It's also the 00:06:48.459 --> 00:06:51.360 way it's shot is brilliant. The first episode, 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:54.759 every shot, I don't know who the DP is, like 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:56.220 we should find out who that guy is, but every 00:06:56.220 --> 00:06:58.040 shot has like perfect symmetry. Did you notice 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:00.339 that? I didn't notice it. You can cut the screen 00:07:00.339 --> 00:07:04.139 in half every single shot. It is a masterpiece. 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:08.279 But I think about that, like this idea of like 00:07:08.279 --> 00:07:10.220 severing yourself, a lot of people are doing 00:07:10.220 --> 00:07:12.899 that. At work anyway. 100%. That's what you were 00:07:12.899 --> 00:07:14.579 describing. They're this other person at work 00:07:14.579 --> 00:07:17.040 for eight hours a day. Yeah. They aren't their 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:18.879 self. There's a different identity. They make 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:20.259 up these little terms. Like, oh, this is my work 00:07:20.259 --> 00:07:22.879 wife. It's like. Well, that's why it's so easy 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:26.279 to push like crazy woke nonsense into an office 00:07:26.279 --> 00:07:28.279 space because people are already bullshitting. 00:07:28.319 --> 00:07:30.180 Oh, so if we're already pretending here, what 00:07:30.180 --> 00:07:31.699 else are we going to pretend about? What else 00:07:31.699 --> 00:07:33.540 do I have to do to keep this job? What do I have 00:07:33.540 --> 00:07:35.420 to do to get a promotion? What do I have to do? 00:07:35.459 --> 00:07:37.779 Do I have to pretend that trans kids, what is 00:07:37.779 --> 00:07:42.620 it? Drab queen shows. Okay, I'm in. I'm in. Healthcare? 00:07:42.819 --> 00:07:45.019 Yeah, I'm my dick. Whatever you want to call 00:07:45.019 --> 00:07:47.939 it. Gender affirming? Was that what we're calling 00:07:47.939 --> 00:07:50.279 it? Okay. And it's interesting to see how little 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:53.259 pushback there is from the workers now that all 00:07:53.259 --> 00:07:55.980 these programs are being wiped away. Well, the 00:07:55.980 --> 00:07:57.399 people that are losing their job are complaining 00:07:57.399 --> 00:07:59.759 hard. And then the senators are complaining hard. 00:07:59.899 --> 00:08:02.220 But everybody else is happy. Yeah, the people 00:08:02.220 --> 00:08:04.240 who have been faking it at work that are still 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:06.759 working there are not like, damn it. You know 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:08.360 what I mean? They're just going, all right, I 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:10.420 get to be a little closer version to myself. 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:13.220 Well, they're probably going to get fired. At 00:08:13.220 --> 00:08:15.639 Disney? You're saying at Disney? What do you 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:17.699 mean? I'm saying all these programs have come 00:08:17.699 --> 00:08:19.399 out. 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And it's like, do 00:10:03.659 --> 00:10:05.519 you remember the Rainbow Coalition? You remember 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:09.000 Jesse Jackson back in the day? Jesse Jackson 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:11.279 used to... I mean, I know Jesse, but I would 00:10:11.279 --> 00:10:13.320 not... He had this thing where he would go to 00:10:13.320 --> 00:10:16.159 businesses, like if they had some sort of a dispute, 00:10:16.379 --> 00:10:17.919 like say if there was some sort of an issue, 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:21.620 like maybe some black executive got fired and 00:10:21.620 --> 00:10:24.039 maybe shouldn't have, or someone put something 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:26.519 on the wall in the bathroom, something, Jesse 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:29.779 Jackson would come in for a nominal fee. For 00:10:29.779 --> 00:10:31.840 a nominal fee. He would come in and straighten 00:10:31.840 --> 00:10:34.360 your business out. What does straighten your 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:36.519 business out mean? Well, make sure that you guys 00:10:36.519 --> 00:10:37.919 are on the right track. Give a little speech. 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:41.139 Collect a little check. So basically say you're 00:10:41.139 --> 00:10:43.970 not racist. Absolutely. You can't be racist if 00:10:43.970 --> 00:10:45.409 you're hiring Jesse Jackson and we're on the 00:10:45.409 --> 00:10:47.950 right track. So he comes along, gives you the 00:10:47.950 --> 00:10:51.090 rubber stamp. Legend. What a legend. And he's 00:10:51.090 --> 00:10:53.990 like balling, like balling out of control, just 00:10:53.990 --> 00:10:55.429 giving the rubber stamps to these companies. 00:10:55.470 --> 00:10:57.610 And then on top of that, what they do is then 00:10:57.610 --> 00:11:02.730 they would have jobs for people to oversee this 00:11:02.730 --> 00:11:05.470 activity in a large corporation. So it's basically 00:11:05.470 --> 00:11:07.590 like no -show jobs the mob used to give out at 00:11:07.590 --> 00:11:09.629 the Javits Center. I had a buddy of mine who 00:11:09.629 --> 00:11:11.269 had one of those. Do people know what the Javits 00:11:11.269 --> 00:11:14.610 Center is? is here? It's a big convention center 00:11:14.610 --> 00:11:16.509 in New York City. This is where Comic Con would 00:11:16.509 --> 00:11:18.610 be and all these different things. Big stuff. 00:11:18.889 --> 00:11:21.429 And it was mobbed up, right? Mobbed up. So they 00:11:21.429 --> 00:11:22.970 would have all these fake jobs that you could 00:11:22.970 --> 00:11:25.149 give to the guys around the block. Yeah. Everybody's 00:11:25.149 --> 00:11:27.039 getting paid. And it's probably supported by 00:11:27.039 --> 00:11:28.279 the city in some way, right? Yeah, I don't want 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:31.320 to say his name because he's still around. But 00:11:31.320 --> 00:11:35.419 he was an actor. And I was working with him. 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:38.200 And he was explaining he's got a no -show job. 00:11:38.519 --> 00:11:40.799 Do I know who you're talking about? Probably 00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:42.919 not, but I'll tell you afterwards. Fucking great 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:45.320 guy. But afterwards, everybody was like, that 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:49.100 guy's so mobbed up. He's got a fucking no -show 00:11:49.100 --> 00:11:51.759 job. You know what's funny? You get like $200 00:11:51.759 --> 00:11:54.120 ,000 a year. You don't even have to work. Yeah. 00:11:54.460 --> 00:11:57.299 Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of construction jobs 00:11:57.299 --> 00:11:58.659 and stuff, but this is kind of how things work. 00:11:58.659 --> 00:12:01.360 Well, this is what USAID is finding. USAID found 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:03.419 this place in San Antonio that they spent billions 00:12:03.419 --> 00:12:04.240 of dollars on. You thought it was only Ukraine 00:12:04.240 --> 00:12:06.639 getting money for nothing? And it's fucking, 00:12:06.679 --> 00:12:09.659 no one was there? Completely empty? To me, this 00:12:09.659 --> 00:12:12.860 is not shocking, but - Bro, the numbers are shocking. 00:12:12.919 --> 00:12:14.940 No, the numbers can get shocking, but it's funny 00:12:14.940 --> 00:12:17.220 the Jesse Jackson thing is an actual job because 00:12:17.220 --> 00:12:20.559 I remember, I had a joke that could never work 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:26.559 out, but the idea was based on - It was Black 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:29.720 Lives Matter when Ukraine started popping, right? 00:12:29.879 --> 00:12:32.700 So everybody had the Black Lives Matter posters 00:12:32.700 --> 00:12:36.000 in their windows in New York. And when Black 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:39.039 Lives Matter kind of came down. Well, it's once 00:12:39.039 --> 00:12:41.179 those ladies got caught buying houses. Of course, 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:42.940 of course. That put a dent in it. It wasn't great. 00:12:43.240 --> 00:12:45.120 So now there's all these white people in New 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:46.559 York that have Black Lives Matter in their window, 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:48.039 but they're like, I got to get this out of my 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:50.279 window. So I had this idea for a joke where it's 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:52.360 like, if I was a black dude, I would set up a 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:54.559 business where we will take down your Black Lives 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:57.279 Matter poster for you and then replace it with 00:12:57.279 --> 00:13:00.299 a Ukraine flag. You know what I mean? So you're 00:13:00.299 --> 00:13:02.500 still a good person. Jesse was doing it in the 00:13:02.500 --> 00:13:04.620 fucking 70s. I had no clue the Rainbow Coalition 00:13:04.620 --> 00:13:06.940 already worked. That is what it's called, right? 00:13:07.440 --> 00:13:09.399 Yeah, it was the Rainbow Coalition. He had a 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:11.940 bunch of other things he would call it under, 00:13:12.039 --> 00:13:14.100 but the whole idea was just to make sure that 00:13:14.100 --> 00:13:16.919 people weren't... Doing the wrong thing. Yeah. 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:18.419 Do the right thing. Yeah, you gotta do the right 00:13:18.419 --> 00:13:19.659 thing. You gotta do the right thing. You always 00:13:19.659 --> 00:13:20.860 gotta do the right thing. Yeah, but the problem 00:13:20.860 --> 00:13:23.039 with that is it gets hijacked. Obviously, there 00:13:23.039 --> 00:13:25.299 should be no racism. There should be zero racism. 00:13:25.379 --> 00:13:27.139 Yes. There should be zero discrimination. Yes. 00:13:27.139 --> 00:13:28.820 Everything should be merit -based. Yeah. But 00:13:28.820 --> 00:13:30.600 the problem with that is, and this is a real 00:13:30.600 --> 00:13:34.259 problem, the country's not merit. in terms of 00:13:34.259 --> 00:13:37.559 where you're born. You didn't earn your birth 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:40.940 spot. You didn't earn your family. It's a roll 00:13:40.940 --> 00:13:44.159 of the dice. You get real lucky or really fucking 00:13:44.159 --> 00:13:47.899 unlucky. And as a community, as a country, we 00:13:47.899 --> 00:13:50.899 pay zero attention to the completely downtrodden. 00:13:51.340 --> 00:13:56.139 I think this is the biggest mistake that the 00:13:56.139 --> 00:14:00.120 Democrat Party has made is not making it a class 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:03.519 issue. Like the most successful people in the 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:06.240 party like Bernie and you like her politics or 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:08.240 not, but like AOC They make it a class issue 00:14:08.240 --> 00:14:10.460 every single time. I think I think AOC pulled 00:14:10.460 --> 00:14:12.639 the same as Trump in her district. Why is that? 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:14.799 Because people think that she wants to help. 00:14:15.100 --> 00:14:17.220 And Bernie has just been taking shots the entire 00:14:17.220 --> 00:14:18.519 time. He's like, look at all these billionaires. 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:20.100 They got a lot of money. You don't have enough 00:14:20.100 --> 00:14:22.460 money. Campaign finance is fucked up. We need 00:14:22.460 --> 00:14:23.840 to stop that. There's too much influence with 00:14:23.840 --> 00:14:26.100 people with money. And it resonates with people. 00:14:26.360 --> 00:14:27.940 Oh, yeah, man. We feel like you want to help. 00:14:28.100 --> 00:14:30.100 I mean, I feel like you were like a big Bernie 00:14:30.100 --> 00:14:32.320 dude. Dude, that was the first time I really 00:14:32.320 --> 00:14:35.940 got canceled was over Bernie. Because they didn't 00:14:35.940 --> 00:14:38.759 want Bernie to win. And so they started calling 00:14:38.759 --> 00:14:41.399 me racist and homophobic. And I was like, where 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:43.679 is this coming from? Bernie started popping. 00:14:43.860 --> 00:14:45.759 What did they say? Right. They had to. I don't 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:47.159 know who they is. You could call whoever the 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:49.279 fuck they want. But like there was this idea 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:51.840 that they had to like thwart his success. And 00:14:51.840 --> 00:14:53.679 these articles starts coming out where it was 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:57.379 like the Bernie bros. Yeah. Bernie's got a problem. 00:14:57.679 --> 00:15:01.039 His his his fans or supporters are sexist. They're 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:03.840 racist. And they're these bros that are that 00:15:03.840 --> 00:15:05.299 are fucked up and they're radioactive and they're 00:15:05.299 --> 00:15:07.120 bad people. He's got a real problem. So they're 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:09.620 trying to make him radioactive. I remember seeing. 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:12.840 The reaction to Trump coming on the pods and 00:15:12.840 --> 00:15:15.820 it was the exact same playbook. It was like the 00:15:15.820 --> 00:15:18.620 manosphere pods. Yeah. They're sexist. They're 00:15:18.620 --> 00:15:20.419 racist. Look how fucked it's like. You're doing 00:15:20.419 --> 00:15:22.419 the same thing. Yeah. You're making it about 00:15:22.419 --> 00:15:24.919 identity politics. I think Americans are kind 00:15:24.919 --> 00:15:27.759 of simple in that like we want abundance, but 00:15:27.759 --> 00:15:30.960 we want access. So if eggs are expensive, I can't 00:15:30.960 --> 00:15:33.539 care about your bathrooms. Right. Like and you 00:15:33.539 --> 00:15:36.179 need to tap into that feeling right there. So 00:15:36.179 --> 00:15:37.580 from the Democrats, I'm just this is a class 00:15:37.580 --> 00:15:40.600 issue. But I feel unfortunately. a lot of them 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:42.820 are in the pockets of these wealthy people. Yeah, 00:15:42.940 --> 00:15:48.740 it's all a hustle. If we had the entire time, 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:52.000 if we had brilliant people working for the betterment 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:53.720 of the United States, it'd be a far better place 00:15:53.720 --> 00:15:55.440 to live in. We've had a bunch of people that 00:15:55.440 --> 00:15:57.220 are capitalizing off of the fact they get in 00:15:57.220 --> 00:15:59.299 this position of extreme influence and wealth, 00:15:59.500 --> 00:16:01.820 and they make insane amounts of money for people 00:16:01.820 --> 00:16:04.940 with a $170 ,000 a year salary, and they keep 00:16:04.940 --> 00:16:07.580 it rolling. So how do you do that? How do you 00:16:07.580 --> 00:16:11.690 find, okay, How do you find someone who wants 00:16:11.690 --> 00:16:14.789 power but is also benevolent? You've got to get 00:16:14.789 --> 00:16:16.850 rare human beings. That's the thing. Most people 00:16:16.850 --> 00:16:19.970 who want power don't exactly want to give back. 00:16:20.549 --> 00:16:22.509 It's a bottomless pit. Bro, have you ever seen 00:16:22.509 --> 00:16:24.429 people get a little bit of power and lose their 00:16:24.429 --> 00:16:27.710 fucking marbles? Like who? I can't say. I can't 00:16:27.710 --> 00:16:29.409 tell a story because it would be real obvious 00:16:29.409 --> 00:16:31.789 who I'm talking about. But it's not one of our 00:16:31.789 --> 00:16:33.750 friends. I just don't want to say it publicly. 00:16:33.929 --> 00:16:36.600 You don't even know him. Okay. But I've seen 00:16:36.600 --> 00:16:38.899 people with just like you get a job where you're 00:16:38.899 --> 00:16:41.320 the boss now and you just become a cunt and a 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:43.639 half. Like what happened? Do you think it exposes 00:16:43.639 --> 00:16:45.899 who they always were or do you think it actually 00:16:45.899 --> 00:16:50.120 changes their character? It's probably both. 00:16:50.740 --> 00:16:53.120 It's probably both. They probably had weak character 00:16:53.120 --> 00:16:56.019 to begin with, but they could get away with it 00:16:56.019 --> 00:16:59.899 if they were not in situations that, you know, 00:16:59.899 --> 00:17:03.220 caused a lot of anxiety or stress. But then as 00:17:03.220 --> 00:17:06.410 soon as they do get in a situation. Like if you're 00:17:06.410 --> 00:17:09.430 the boss of some workplace somewhere. Yeah. I've 00:17:09.430 --> 00:17:12.109 just seen people just completely lose their shit 00:17:12.109 --> 00:17:14.470 when people rely on them and depend on them. 00:17:14.529 --> 00:17:18.049 They just become tyrants. Do you think that they 00:17:18.049 --> 00:17:21.430 resent the dependents? I don't know what it is, 00:17:21.450 --> 00:17:23.849 man. I don't know what it is. You have a lot 00:17:23.849 --> 00:17:28.730 of people that depend is, yeah, I would say depend 00:17:28.730 --> 00:17:30.730 is tricky because they have the autonomy to not 00:17:30.730 --> 00:17:32.769 do that. But there are a lot of people that definitely. 00:17:34.150 --> 00:17:38.849 rely on you, and... Yeah, do you feel pressure 00:17:38.849 --> 00:17:42.829 from that? Me? Yeah. No. Really? No. I feel like 00:17:42.829 --> 00:17:46.089 you took care, like, before you opened the comedy 00:17:46.089 --> 00:17:47.849 club, you were taking care of these people that 00:17:47.849 --> 00:17:49.750 you asked to come out here and work for you. 00:17:50.049 --> 00:17:52.369 So you must have felt this concern for them. 00:17:52.859 --> 00:17:54.779 Yeah. Didn't you hire them? Weren't you paying 00:17:54.779 --> 00:17:56.759 them even before the club was open? Yeah. Well, 00:17:56.859 --> 00:17:59.160 they were all unemployed out of L .A. So I said, 00:17:59.180 --> 00:18:00.660 listen, we're going to open up a club. We're 00:18:00.660 --> 00:18:03.380 going to find a spot. But you could start immediately. 00:18:03.660 --> 00:18:07.400 So you just get paid. Enjoy Austin. Kick back. 00:18:07.700 --> 00:18:09.579 Relax. We'll call you in about a year and a half. 00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:12.900 It was around two years. But you felt the responsibility. 00:18:13.319 --> 00:18:16.279 Yes. But it didn't burden me. Got it. It wasn't 00:18:16.279 --> 00:18:19.140 like, oh, this is a heavy responsibility. It 00:18:19.140 --> 00:18:21.519 was like, this is smart. We could do this. This 00:18:21.519 --> 00:18:23.720 is the right thing to do. This way, we already 00:18:23.720 --> 00:18:26.440 have the best people that, you know, got fired 00:18:26.440 --> 00:18:27.660 from the comedy store because the comedy store 00:18:27.660 --> 00:18:30.500 couldn't open because L .A.'s retarded. And so 00:18:30.500 --> 00:18:32.559 we got them all to come out here. And it's like, 00:18:32.660 --> 00:18:34.740 look, the right thing to do is to, like, pay 00:18:34.740 --> 00:18:37.220 them now. And we'll figure that out. We just 00:18:37.220 --> 00:18:39.079 had to figure out where the spot was. And then, 00:18:39.119 --> 00:18:41.380 obviously, once we got the spots, like, this 00:18:41.380 --> 00:18:43.000 is going to be a long. We're going to have to 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:44.819 put some construction on this bitch and do a 00:18:44.819 --> 00:18:46.460 lot of shit. It's going to take some months. 00:18:46.640 --> 00:18:48.180 So you knew it was going to take time. You're 00:18:48.180 --> 00:18:49.640 like, okay, I'm going to take care of them in 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:52.319 the interim. But again, so you're not burdened 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:54.700 by people feeling like they rely on you or anything 00:18:54.700 --> 00:18:56.460 like that? No, it doesn't bother me. No. If it 00:18:56.460 --> 00:18:58.480 burdened me, like if it was something where I 00:18:58.480 --> 00:19:00.119 was worried I was going to run out of money, 00:19:00.240 --> 00:19:03.059 like if I was stretched real thin, I'd be like, 00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:04.960 fuck, there's so many people working for me. 00:19:04.980 --> 00:19:07.740 This is a problem. I've got to figure something 00:19:07.740 --> 00:19:12.079 out. But I'm not. It's okay. It's like decide 00:19:12.079 --> 00:19:14.819 what you think about in this life. What do you 00:19:14.819 --> 00:19:16.319 mean by that? Decide what you think about in 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:19.619 this life. Are you going to do something that's 00:19:19.619 --> 00:19:22.559 going to change the way you feel about having 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:25.079 a bunch of employees? Or are you not? Or are 00:19:25.079 --> 00:19:27.099 you just going to freak out about it? Decide 00:19:27.099 --> 00:19:29.420 what you think about things. What are those two 00:19:29.420 --> 00:19:32.720 philosophies, like determinism and free will? 00:19:32.980 --> 00:19:36.480 Yes. Are you a huge free will guy? Do you believe 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:40.160 in determinism at all? Will is real. OK, I know 00:19:40.160 --> 00:19:42.299 it's real because it exists in me. The idea, 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:45.440 though, is that it's fleeting and it's dependent 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:49.059 upon a multitude of factors. Your will is really 00:19:49.059 --> 00:19:51.940 dependent upon your hormone levels, your genetics, 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:56.460 how much sleep you've had, what positive or negative 00:19:56.460 --> 00:19:58.460 experiences have shaped you in your life. There's 00:19:58.460 --> 00:20:03.000 a lot going on that that like forces you into 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:04.880 this position where you have to decide whether 00:20:04.880 --> 00:20:07.700 or not will is real. Yeah. But will's real. I 00:20:07.700 --> 00:20:11.220 believe it's real. It's 100 % real. Yeah. Like, 00:20:11.220 --> 00:20:16.150 I know. It's not determinism that makes. David 00:20:16.150 --> 00:20:19.730 Goggins run harder than anybody else. It's will. 00:20:19.970 --> 00:20:22.410 Yeah, it's a hundred percent will his knees are 00:20:22.410 --> 00:20:25.609 destroyed Yeah, it's only will that just gets 00:20:25.609 --> 00:20:28.250 you up off the couch if your knees are destroyed 00:20:28.250 --> 00:20:31.670 and you run a tidy 30 miles that day Yeah, that's 00:20:31.670 --> 00:20:34.950 not that's not Determinism. Yeah, that's bullshit. 00:20:35.109 --> 00:20:37.049 It was determinism. There'd be tons of those 00:20:37.049 --> 00:20:41.210 guys out there Yeah, a small Cameron Haynes small 00:20:41.210 --> 00:20:44.529 little fucking handful of these like psychotic 00:20:44.529 --> 00:20:47.539 people who have incredible will. World champion 00:20:47.539 --> 00:20:52.240 fighters, Gordon Ryan in jiu -jitsu. Gordon Ryan 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:56.480 works out every fucking day of the week. 365 00:20:56.480 --> 00:20:59.839 days a year. It's a huge sacrifice. If you want 00:20:59.839 --> 00:21:02.619 to be really great at something, you kind of 00:21:02.619 --> 00:21:04.660 have to be out of your fucking mind, but you 00:21:04.660 --> 00:21:07.900 also have to have an iron will. You don't want 00:21:07.900 --> 00:21:10.400 to work out every day. There's going to be days 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:13.529 you just want to eat cake and sleep. But if you 00:21:13.529 --> 00:21:15.970 want to get past the guy who eats cake and sleeps, 00:21:16.069 --> 00:21:18.670 you don't eat cake and you don't sleep. Yeah. 00:21:19.849 --> 00:21:23.630 That's Will, dude. That's Will. Your determinism 00:21:23.630 --> 00:21:27.450 could suck my dick because there's no just like 00:21:27.450 --> 00:21:32.869 accidental amazing people. It's like a lot of 00:21:32.869 --> 00:21:36.670 similar stories. Single mom, started doing this, 00:21:36.789 --> 00:21:39.569 invented something when he was 18. Do they all 00:21:39.569 --> 00:21:41.730 come from trauma, you think? I think a lot of 00:21:41.730 --> 00:21:43.529 people that are hyper -ambitious come from a 00:21:43.529 --> 00:21:45.329 shitty environment. And what is that connection? 00:21:46.569 --> 00:21:48.769 I think it's probably wanting something better 00:21:48.769 --> 00:21:50.390 than you're experiencing and knowing that it's 00:21:50.390 --> 00:21:52.329 possible, that it's out there. And knowing the 00:21:52.329 --> 00:21:56.390 pain of living in the ghetto or the pain of being 00:21:56.390 --> 00:21:59.269 on food stamps, the pain of poverty. And the 00:21:59.269 --> 00:22:01.589 fact that when you're poor and you're young, 00:22:01.730 --> 00:22:03.769 you wonder whether or not you're going to have 00:22:03.769 --> 00:22:07.049 food. That's a scary thought for a child. Yeah, 00:22:07.049 --> 00:22:09.910 that's motivating. Yeah, it puts a kind of fire 00:22:09.910 --> 00:22:13.630 in you. You don't get a Mike Tyson if he grows 00:22:13.630 --> 00:22:16.650 up in Brentwood. Yeah, you know you get them 00:22:16.650 --> 00:22:18.569 when they grow up in Bedford -Stuyvesant Yeah, 00:22:18.650 --> 00:22:21.250 you know you don't get them when they have an 00:22:21.250 --> 00:22:23.849 awesome dad and awesome mom was there for their 00:22:23.849 --> 00:22:25.829 baseball games He tells them what a great job 00:22:25.829 --> 00:22:28.210 they did and consoles them when they get hurt 00:22:28.210 --> 00:22:31.789 and like no no You have like a life of pain and 00:22:31.789 --> 00:22:34.069 then you got some pain to dish out after that 00:22:34.069 --> 00:22:36.589 I also but I feel like it's not completely dependent 00:22:36.589 --> 00:22:38.980 on that You know like I wouldn't say that I had 00:22:38.980 --> 00:22:40.819 this like life of pain like I've you know dealt 00:22:40.819 --> 00:22:43.480 with my shit You know, but I feel incredibly 00:22:43.480 --> 00:22:46.400 competitive and ambitious. Well, you're an artist. 00:22:46.579 --> 00:22:48.980 It's a different thing, right? Yeah, the reason 00:22:48.980 --> 00:22:50.440 why it's a different thing is you're an artist 00:22:50.440 --> 00:22:53.619 in a very specific Genre, which is talking shit. 00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:56.880 You're a shit -talking artist, right? Like shit 00:22:56.880 --> 00:22:59.579 talking to that shit is what it is. It is what 00:22:59.579 --> 00:23:02.200 it is. It's beautiful It's a professional talker 00:23:02.200 --> 00:23:05.160 my favorite art form. Yeah and shit -talking 00:23:05.160 --> 00:23:08.349 artists they want to be around a bunch of people 00:23:08.349 --> 00:23:11.269 and have a good time. So you don't need to come 00:23:11.269 --> 00:23:15.569 from trauma to be ambitious and be a shit -talking 00:23:15.569 --> 00:23:18.990 artist. All you have to do is be someone who 00:23:18.990 --> 00:23:23.309 admires success and who wants to progress and 00:23:23.309 --> 00:23:25.250 keep getting better at this thing that they love 00:23:25.250 --> 00:23:28.210 that has given them so much. You also have to 00:23:28.210 --> 00:23:30.809 sacrifice and you have to commit to things. I 00:23:30.809 --> 00:23:34.349 do feel like it takes... I mean, I didn't... 00:23:34.910 --> 00:23:36.789 I mean, in the beginning, like, I don't think 00:23:36.789 --> 00:23:38.589 I celebrated a birthday for, like, a decade. 00:23:38.710 --> 00:23:40.829 Like, I don't think I ever considered, like, 00:23:40.869 --> 00:23:43.309 taking a vacation or anything. Like, I was just 00:23:43.309 --> 00:23:46.390 so hungry to get after it, to get good, to be, 00:23:46.430 --> 00:23:48.250 like, undeniable. That was, like, this goal. 00:23:48.309 --> 00:23:49.690 It's like, how can I be undeniable? I would see 00:23:49.690 --> 00:23:52.109 these guys go up, like, fucking Greer Barnes 00:23:52.109 --> 00:23:55.470 or Mike DiStefano, and I would just be like, 00:23:55.690 --> 00:24:00.500 they're just undeniable. And yeah, I don't know. 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:02.180 I just I didn't even fucking drink, I think, 00:24:02.180 --> 00:24:04.220 for like a decade. I was like, I got to get better 00:24:04.220 --> 00:24:08.140 at this. I got to just kind of work. And maybe 00:24:08.140 --> 00:24:09.579 that comes from like watching my parents work 00:24:09.579 --> 00:24:11.420 hard or something. I'm sure that helps. Yeah. 00:24:11.519 --> 00:24:13.859 They were really hard workers. Yeah. And that's 00:24:13.859 --> 00:24:16.779 like the expectation of work. Also, you have 00:24:16.779 --> 00:24:19.220 a lot of gratitude. And I think if you have gratitude, 00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:21.599 you realize how fortunate you are to have the 00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:23.970 ability to work hard. Yeah. Because that's a 00:24:23.970 --> 00:24:26.190 real thing. Oh, dude. Especially working hard 00:24:26.190 --> 00:24:27.549 at something that you're actually successful 00:24:27.549 --> 00:24:30.029 at. Like once you're actually successful, keep 00:24:30.029 --> 00:24:33.269 that foot on the gas, motherfucker. It is. Keep 00:24:33.269 --> 00:24:36.450 that foot on the gas. Let's go. That's like the 00:24:36.450 --> 00:24:38.809 balance. Like you just put something out. So 00:24:38.809 --> 00:24:41.009 I imagine you took a little time off afterwards. 00:24:41.390 --> 00:24:44.109 Yeah, I did. I got like 25 minutes right now. 00:24:44.309 --> 00:24:48.349 Okay, so you're building back. And like I find 00:24:48.349 --> 00:24:50.569 in order for the next thing I do to be different. 00:24:51.240 --> 00:24:54.599 I have to take time away because I have to like 00:24:54.599 --> 00:24:58.019 reflect on the changes in my life. And if I keep 00:24:58.019 --> 00:25:00.559 going like earlier in my career, I would just 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:02.799 go, go, go, go. And I found I was writing different 00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:05.740 versions of the same jokes. Right. Like they 00:25:05.740 --> 00:25:08.420 were different jokes, but it was same topic, 00:25:08.500 --> 00:25:11.000 same kind of reaction. And I think it was I just 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:13.339 wasn't. You're trying to fill time. I'm on the 00:25:13.339 --> 00:25:14.859 road. I'm like, I got to go back to Albany next 00:25:14.859 --> 00:25:16.380 year. You got to do another hour. I'm making 00:25:16.380 --> 00:25:18.240 $1 ,500 a weekend. I got to go. And then you 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:19.980 get connected to that material because you've 00:25:19.980 --> 00:25:21.940 been doing it for a while. Yeah. And then it 00:25:21.940 --> 00:25:24.140 doesn't really resonate with you. Yeah. And then, 00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:26.000 yeah, so it's like— I think Louis took a whole 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:29.279 year off. I think—I really respect that. Yeah. 00:25:29.339 --> 00:25:33.380 I think it's wise. Yeah. I think taking time 00:25:33.380 --> 00:25:35.660 and thinking about it is really wise. And thinking 00:25:35.660 --> 00:25:37.859 about, like, what are the things that are on 00:25:37.859 --> 00:25:41.970 your mind? Like, what is— How do you really feel 00:25:41.970 --> 00:25:44.349 about this world that we're living? This world 00:25:44.349 --> 00:25:46.589 that seems more and more like it's not real. 00:25:47.069 --> 00:25:49.049 More and more like it's a fucking simulation. 00:25:49.410 --> 00:25:53.150 Yeah. I'm kind of convinced now. What, it is 00:25:53.150 --> 00:25:54.789 a simulation? Yeah, there's something going on. 00:25:54.890 --> 00:25:58.960 There's something more to... reality than what 00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:01.680 meets the eye. There's more to it than what you 00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:03.420 could put on a scale or what you could put a 00:26:03.420 --> 00:26:05.880 ruler to. There's more to this thing. This thing's 00:26:05.880 --> 00:26:09.359 made out of some very bizarre energy that's attached 00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:12.180 to consciousness. That's what I think. What do 00:26:12.180 --> 00:26:18.940 you mean by this? I think that... I think it's 00:26:18.940 --> 00:26:23.140 really possible. First of all, it's inevitable 00:26:23.140 --> 00:26:25.599 that one day they will achieve a simulation. 00:26:26.410 --> 00:26:29.569 that is indiscernible from reality. Okay. No 00:26:29.569 --> 00:26:32.309 doubt about it. They've gotten real close, you 00:26:32.309 --> 00:26:34.009 know, where you could put on haptic feedback 00:26:34.009 --> 00:26:35.930 suits and you can see things and you feel like 00:26:35.930 --> 00:26:38.750 you're in a room. You know, it's crude, but it's 00:26:38.750 --> 00:26:42.289 like, you know, Nintendo from 20 years ago versus, 00:26:42.390 --> 00:26:46.170 you know, some modern warfare game now. Right. 00:26:46.269 --> 00:26:48.730 They're going to get to a point where it's indiscernible. 00:26:49.029 --> 00:26:52.190 Yeah. So if it does happen, how do you know? 00:26:52.940 --> 00:26:55.680 How do you know when that takes place? Now, here's 00:26:55.680 --> 00:27:00.140 the question. Is that the ultimate progression 00:27:00.140 --> 00:27:03.519 of technology? Is the ultimate progression of 00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:08.079 technology transcending physical reality and 00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:12.559 becoming completely digital life? So if that 00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:15.559 is possible, how do we know if it hasn't already 00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:17.819 happened? How can we know if it hasn't already 00:27:17.819 --> 00:27:21.339 happened? One thing I would say that if this 00:27:21.339 --> 00:27:23.960 world was scripted, it would be filled with a 00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:26.119 lot of shit that's exactly like what happened. 00:27:26.259 --> 00:27:28.660 Trump would get shot in the ear and say, fight, 00:27:28.740 --> 00:27:33.039 fight, fight. You would have Elon Musk at the 00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:35.759 inauguration looking like he's on another planet. 00:27:35.819 --> 00:27:37.980 Now, Joe, I just want to make the point here. 00:27:38.059 --> 00:27:40.599 You're making the argument for determinism. No, 00:27:40.619 --> 00:27:44.680 I'm not. I'm making the argument that there's 00:27:44.680 --> 00:27:48.259 a conscious. interface. There's consciousness 00:27:48.259 --> 00:27:50.880 and it's interfacing with something that's not 00:27:50.880 --> 00:27:53.059 entirely real. And that is the life that we're 00:27:53.059 --> 00:27:55.579 living in. And we think it's way realer than 00:27:55.579 --> 00:27:57.819 it actually is. So is somebody in control of 00:27:57.819 --> 00:28:01.440 it or they're allowing us to have some semblance 00:28:01.440 --> 00:28:04.079 of control? I feel like it might be controlled 00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:07.660 by the actual things that are inside of it. So 00:28:07.660 --> 00:28:11.500 I think our destiny is truly in our hands. I 00:28:11.500 --> 00:28:13.279 really believe that. I like that. And then if 00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:15.619 that is the case, how is that not real? Well, 00:28:15.619 --> 00:28:20.440 it is real in a sense, but... I think that the 00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:24.660 actual way that things happen and work is dependent 00:28:24.660 --> 00:28:28.460 entirely on the level of consciousness that people 00:28:28.460 --> 00:28:30.759 have that are experiencing it. It sounds like 00:28:30.759 --> 00:28:32.779 very hippy -dippy and wooey, and it all comes 00:28:32.779 --> 00:28:34.900 from a lot of different things, but one of it 00:28:34.900 --> 00:28:37.599 comes from Tom Campbell, who wrote this very 00:28:37.599 --> 00:28:39.759 fucking bizarre book that I've listened to on 00:28:39.759 --> 00:28:42.599 audiobook twice now, where he's talking about 00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:47.640 essentially what we think of as reality is just 00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:51.569 a simulation. Okay. The whole entire thing is 00:28:51.569 --> 00:28:55.250 our consciousness interpreting everything as 00:28:55.250 --> 00:28:57.089 we experience it throughout the day. But when 00:28:57.089 --> 00:29:00.210 we are not here, that is not the same thing. 00:29:00.490 --> 00:29:01.890 What do you mean when we're not here? When we 00:29:01.890 --> 00:29:05.269 die, you're saying? If you're not on Mars, is 00:29:05.269 --> 00:29:09.369 Mars real? Or is Mars something that we agree 00:29:09.369 --> 00:29:12.089 is real? We agree it's in a certain space and 00:29:12.089 --> 00:29:14.960 it'll only be there when we get there? Like if 00:29:14.960 --> 00:29:18.140 the universe is a true simulation imagine what 00:29:18.140 --> 00:29:21.730 a mindfuck you have a simulation where It's perfect 00:29:21.730 --> 00:29:26.190 in that it has all of these galaxies and supernovas. 00:29:26.250 --> 00:29:30.589 The moon aligns perfectly with the earth to cause 00:29:30.589 --> 00:29:33.589 eclipses. And without the moon being there, our 00:29:33.589 --> 00:29:35.529 entire atmosphere would fall apart. We would 00:29:35.529 --> 00:29:37.589 never be able to survive. So it's like this perfect 00:29:37.589 --> 00:29:40.730 little thing that's set right there. And we spin 00:29:40.730 --> 00:29:43.730 around and worry, which bathroom should we let 00:29:43.730 --> 00:29:50.970 the guy in a dress go to? Okay. 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But meanwhile, it's just 00:30:27.970 --> 00:30:30.170 a show that's being put on for our consciousness. 00:30:30.490 --> 00:30:32.130 Okay, so it's a show being put on for our consciousness, 00:30:32.269 --> 00:30:33.890 right? And then somebody's put on the show, and 00:30:33.890 --> 00:30:36.170 then we get the ability to go to the moon, and 00:30:36.170 --> 00:30:38.410 then they got to scramble and make a moon? No, 00:30:38.430 --> 00:30:40.210 there's a moon. I mean, it doesn't matter. Wherever 00:30:40.210 --> 00:30:41.630 you go, there is a place. Because that is kind 00:30:41.630 --> 00:30:44.150 of funny. It's like if our technology gets so 00:30:44.150 --> 00:30:46.009 good and they're just going, fuck, we've got 00:30:46.009 --> 00:30:47.690 to make this thing real. They're on the way. 00:30:47.990 --> 00:30:50.269 I'm well aware if you're criticizing me, this 00:30:50.269 --> 00:30:54.750 is a dopey way to describe it. But if the tree 00:30:54.750 --> 00:30:56.269 falls in the forest and there's no one there, 00:30:56.369 --> 00:30:58.809 does it make a sound? Yes. I don't even know 00:30:58.809 --> 00:31:00.210 if the tree falls if there's no one there. Oh, 00:31:00.210 --> 00:31:08.769 God. I'm not convinced. I'm not convinced. I'm 00:31:08.769 --> 00:31:12.450 not convinced. So the tree, okay, okay. I think 00:31:12.450 --> 00:31:13.950 if you take a trip to the Pacific Northwest, 00:31:14.069 --> 00:31:16.210 you will find trees. Yes, yes. I just don't know 00:31:16.210 --> 00:31:18.839 if they're there all the time. So they're only 00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:22.039 there in reference to us looking at them. Oh, 00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:24.380 I get what you're saying. Wait, wait, wait. So 00:31:24.380 --> 00:31:27.480 you're playing a video game. And as you move 00:31:27.480 --> 00:31:30.119 throughout the map of the video game, it presents 00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:33.200 itself. But you're saying without us accessing 00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:35.640 it, it isn't presenting itself. It might be the 00:31:35.640 --> 00:31:37.319 whole universe. They're saving on data. That 00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:39.220 might be the whole universe. The whole universe 00:31:39.220 --> 00:31:43.839 might be us interacting with something. But they 00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:48.039 exist. But it doesn't exist without us. Yeah. 00:31:48.140 --> 00:31:49.759 And this is one of those things, like, what does 00:31:49.759 --> 00:31:52.000 it matter either way? But exists with us in this 00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:53.799 moment. Like, if you jump off a cliff, you will 00:31:53.799 --> 00:31:56.460 die. Yeah. Like, gravity's real. Yeah. You'll 00:31:56.460 --> 00:32:02.059 get pulverized. Yeah. No doubt. But. It's because 00:32:02.059 --> 00:32:05.000 you jumped. It's also, like, your consciousness. 00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:08.680 Is the reason why all this is here. Yeah. Because 00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:10.220 you're interacting with it. That's the manifestation 00:32:10.220 --> 00:32:12.599 of everything, though. So I get what you're saying. 00:32:12.900 --> 00:32:15.640 The structure. Existentially, does it exist if 00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:18.359 we're not touching it, feeling it? It's what 00:32:18.359 --> 00:32:20.299 they say about the Native Americans when they 00:32:20.299 --> 00:32:22.079 first saw the ships. They didn't know what they 00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:23.559 were. Yeah, that's bullshit. That's not real. 00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:30.839 Exactly. But I wouldn't say that it's not real 00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:33.259 in that they didn't understand what it was. In 00:32:33.259 --> 00:32:34.680 the distance, they think there were mountains 00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:37.519 moving closer. They probably just saw these giant 00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:39.640 pieces of wood and was trying to figure out. 00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:40.660 They had structures. They might not know it's 00:32:40.660 --> 00:32:42.319 wood. But didn't they have structures? I don't 00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:43.619 know if they're fishing at that time. I'm not 00:32:43.619 --> 00:32:45.259 sure. But if you see them in the distance, you 00:32:45.259 --> 00:32:46.839 see them moving forward. Right, right. I get 00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:49.279 the idea. Your brain can't map what that is yet. 00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:50.519 Right, you'd be freaked out. So it's mapping 00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:52.460 to whatever you know. So it's like, oh shit, 00:32:52.539 --> 00:32:54.640 is it low tide? And there's some sandbars out 00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:56.259 there that are slowly approaching? What the fuck 00:32:56.259 --> 00:32:58.720 is that? That's kind of what you're saying. I 00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:01.680 can't understand what a glacier is without knowing 00:33:01.680 --> 00:33:03.759 what it is. When I see a glacier for the first 00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:06.000 time, I can recognize glaciers everywhere. But 00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:07.380 if I take someone who's never seen a glacier 00:33:07.380 --> 00:33:09.440 to it. I think this guy's going further than 00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:11.299 that. I think he's saying the glaciers aren't 00:33:11.299 --> 00:33:14.619 real unless you're there. But if someone is there 00:33:14.619 --> 00:33:18.019 at every point in time throughout the world, 00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:22.220 then everything is. Yes. And we have enough people 00:33:22.220 --> 00:33:24.200 where there's some people in Antarctica. All 00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:25.720 right. So Antarctica is always there. There's 00:33:25.720 --> 00:33:27.799 some people in Alaska. OK, so that's always there. 00:33:27.859 --> 00:33:29.500 If we have enough people throughout the world, 00:33:29.579 --> 00:33:32.380 the world is this congealed substance that we 00:33:32.380 --> 00:33:34.799 can look at, feel, touch and experience. Yeah. 00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:37.599 And it might be like the map of the game is like 00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.490 those NASA satellite photos of Earth. That's 00:33:40.490 --> 00:33:43.529 the map of the game. If you wanted to go through 00:33:43.529 --> 00:33:46.029 a game, a video game, and before you go through 00:33:46.029 --> 00:33:48.710 the game, it shows you these are the arenas in 00:33:48.710 --> 00:33:50.630 which you're playing. And you can choose one 00:33:50.630 --> 00:33:53.710 of them? Yeah, you can choose one or you know 00:33:53.710 --> 00:33:56.109 which level you're going to. That's those NASA 00:33:56.109 --> 00:33:58.009 3D photos of the Earth. That's what the Earth 00:33:58.009 --> 00:34:00.289 is. Earth is the place where we play this consciousness 00:34:00.289 --> 00:34:02.130 game. When you're sitting at home and you're 00:34:02.130 --> 00:34:04.789 like... thinking about these things yeah do you 00:34:04.789 --> 00:34:07.609 like talk to your kids about it no that's too 00:34:07.609 --> 00:34:09.449 weird to talk to kids about what about your wife 00:34:09.449 --> 00:34:11.590 are you like just going hey she would go what 00:34:11.590 --> 00:34:18.449 yeah You know my wife. She'd be like, what the 00:34:18.449 --> 00:34:20.809 fuck are you talking about? Okay, so you get 00:34:20.809 --> 00:34:24.789 out of the sauna. You have a nice sweat. You're 00:34:24.789 --> 00:34:26.409 walking around your house. You're looking at 00:34:26.409 --> 00:34:28.809 the stars. You see fucking Saturn or whatever 00:34:28.809 --> 00:34:30.969 in the sky. If she wants to talk about something 00:34:30.969 --> 00:34:34.269 like that, she'll bring it up. like if she wants 00:34:34.269 --> 00:34:35.590 to talk about something heavy it's not like i 00:34:35.590 --> 00:34:36.869 wouldn't talk about something heavy with her 00:34:36.869 --> 00:34:40.090 yeah but generally like i come home from work 00:34:40.090 --> 00:34:42.610 she's been with the kids she's doing this and 00:34:42.610 --> 00:34:45.230 that we eat dinner we have fun how was school 00:34:45.230 --> 00:34:48.210 have a good time maybe we watch a little severance 00:34:48.210 --> 00:34:50.429 together yeah yeah but if she's like did you 00:34:50.429 --> 00:34:53.329 ever think that maybe this all isn't real, I'd 00:34:53.329 --> 00:34:59.090 be like, I'm so glad you brought this up. Okay, 00:34:59.269 --> 00:35:01.869 so do you struggle battling with the, because 00:35:01.869 --> 00:35:03.570 some people, when they think about this stuff, 00:35:03.730 --> 00:35:06.489 they feel their own insignificance, and it's 00:35:06.489 --> 00:35:08.630 very depressing for them. Oh, it doesn't matter. 00:35:09.210 --> 00:35:12.449 So you're unaffected entirely that your existence 00:35:12.449 --> 00:35:16.769 in this lifetime, over the grand scheme of things, 00:35:17.010 --> 00:35:19.670 could not be important. It can't be important. 00:35:20.090 --> 00:35:22.449 But it is. But it is to you and it is to the 00:35:22.449 --> 00:35:24.929 people around you. And if that makes up our reality, 00:35:25.070 --> 00:35:27.690 then it's important. Sure. But why think about 00:35:27.690 --> 00:35:29.789 that? Why think about whether or not you're important? 00:35:29.949 --> 00:35:31.489 I just don't waste any time thinking about whether 00:35:31.489 --> 00:35:33.829 or not I'm important. Maybe important is like 00:35:33.829 --> 00:35:37.130 a pretentious word. Not important. Don't think 00:35:37.130 --> 00:35:39.170 about the end of the game. Play the game. Don't 00:35:39.170 --> 00:35:41.469 go, oh, my God, it's going to end. Yes. My quarter's 00:35:41.469 --> 00:35:42.909 going to run out. Just play the game. But some 00:35:42.909 --> 00:35:44.409 people won't play the game if they know there's 00:35:44.409 --> 00:35:46.679 no game at all. Or they know it is completely 00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:49.360 a game. I think that there's this urgency that 00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:52.940 is applied. Like, okay, I have to create the 00:35:52.940 --> 00:35:54.380 art that I want to create in this time in my 00:35:54.380 --> 00:35:56.400 life. Time is something I've been thinking about 00:35:56.400 --> 00:35:58.940 nonstop since I had a kid. It's like time. How 00:35:58.940 --> 00:36:02.440 do I spend time? It maybe is cliche, but it is 00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:04.760 the thing that I value the most. And everything 00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:06.440 gets broken up into these little quadrants of 00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:08.760 time. Okay, I'm out here. I'm doing some pods. 00:36:08.860 --> 00:36:10.159 Okay, I'm away from my daughter. I'm away from 00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:13.070 my wife. How do I get back that time? How can 00:36:13.070 --> 00:36:15.449 I create these events? I don't even buy expensive 00:36:15.449 --> 00:36:17.869 shit. I like to take a vacation with my friends. 00:36:18.010 --> 00:36:20.429 I want us all to stay in the villa together because 00:36:20.429 --> 00:36:22.170 when we're in different hotel rooms, we miss 00:36:22.170 --> 00:36:23.889 out on those little moments in between. Right. 00:36:24.329 --> 00:36:28.289 Time, time, time. And to me, it's like I'm putting 00:36:28.289 --> 00:36:30.230 an importance on this, I guess, the game you 00:36:30.230 --> 00:36:32.110 say you're playing. I want to experience the 00:36:32.110 --> 00:36:34.070 most of this game as I possibly can while I'm 00:36:34.070 --> 00:36:36.110 here. And I have all these examples of people 00:36:36.110 --> 00:36:39.619 finishing the game. My dad's... you know, he's, 00:36:39.619 --> 00:36:41.460 uh, he's got dimension and all this stuff. It's 00:36:41.460 --> 00:36:44.880 like, you're seeing your ability to, I guess, 00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:47.679 manifest that reality. You're at the kind of 00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:51.460 end of your game, you know, but like, yeah, I, 00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:53.679 the idea of like me being important, I don't 00:36:53.679 --> 00:36:55.420 care about like that in terms of how people see 00:36:55.420 --> 00:36:57.920 it. But in this time I have here, I want to believe 00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:00.119 it's really important and I want to soak as much 00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:03.039 of it up as I can. And I think sometimes when 00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:04.860 you're like, oh, it's pointless, it's nothing. 00:37:05.219 --> 00:37:07.280 I felt like Jim Carrey was going through that 00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:09.239 moment. There are these times where I'd see Jim 00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:10.860 talking about the insignificance of the world. 00:37:11.699 --> 00:37:14.340 And I feel like that can kind of lead people 00:37:14.340 --> 00:37:16.500 to sadness and depression. I feel like sometimes 00:37:16.500 --> 00:37:19.519 you need the battery in your back of importance. 00:37:19.940 --> 00:37:22.460 Not you being important to other people, but 00:37:22.460 --> 00:37:24.719 the time you spend here being valuable. Yeah. 00:37:25.099 --> 00:37:27.840 Well, that's part of gratitude, too. That's one 00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:33.260 of your best traits. having gratitude is you 00:37:33.260 --> 00:37:35.739 would recognize that you this time is precious 00:37:35.739 --> 00:37:38.519 you know yeah use it to the best of your ability 00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:42.079 and then really like you enjoy it like soak it 00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:44.320 up did you see everything everywhere all at once 00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:48.000 yeah i did like i thought that was a beautiful 00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:52.019 uh beautiful way of of showcasing how people 00:37:52.019 --> 00:37:55.280 look at like the nothingness of life yeah this 00:37:55.280 --> 00:38:00.099 girl sees it as potentially nothing And falls 00:38:00.099 --> 00:38:04.679 into her own kind of, I guess you would call 00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:06.840 it just depression. Why is it worth it? What 00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:10.079 the fuck is going on? Right. And she kind of 00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:12.119 sees her father as this weak guy that's getting 00:38:12.119 --> 00:38:16.219 walked over. And then comes to realize that he 00:38:16.219 --> 00:38:18.920 chooses to deal with the nothingness with kindness 00:38:18.920 --> 00:38:22.019 and love with everybody. And in reality, he's 00:38:22.019 --> 00:38:24.920 a hero. His perspective on the world is the best. 00:38:25.579 --> 00:38:27.579 When confronted with the nothingness of life, 00:38:27.820 --> 00:38:30.420 he chooses to like be compassionate and loving. 00:38:30.659 --> 00:38:32.679 And it's actually like the most heroic stand 00:38:32.679 --> 00:38:35.360 you can take. I think it's very easy to just 00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:38.360 submit to nothingness. You're determined is maybe 00:38:38.360 --> 00:38:41.260 the wrong word, but like you like hard shit. 00:38:42.019 --> 00:38:45.500 The day you're no longer here is when you can 00:38:45.500 --> 00:38:48.039 no longer do hard shit. I feel like your day 00:38:48.039 --> 00:38:50.420 is full of it. And it's just constant. Like wake 00:38:50.420 --> 00:38:52.179 up. I'm getting in the fucking ice bath. Like 00:38:52.179 --> 00:38:54.630 everything I see you do is hard. You know what 00:38:54.630 --> 00:38:56.150 I mean? You could shoot a fucking thing with 00:38:56.150 --> 00:38:57.650 a gun if you want. You could shoot animals with 00:38:57.650 --> 00:39:00.269 a gun. I'm surprised you don't run on them with 00:39:00.269 --> 00:39:03.110 a fucking knife. Literally, I feel like one day 00:39:03.110 --> 00:39:04.449 I'm going to see you go, I'm going knife hunting. 00:39:04.610 --> 00:39:06.650 I'm going bear knife hunting. Just because it's 00:39:06.650 --> 00:39:09.090 a difficult thing to do. I don't know, maybe 00:39:09.090 --> 00:39:12.630 that's how you process the process existence. 00:39:13.010 --> 00:39:16.110 Well, I think if you are a person who enjoys 00:39:16.110 --> 00:39:20.309 challenges and finds a reward in working hard 00:39:20.309 --> 00:39:24.900 and overcoming that resistance inside of you 00:39:24.900 --> 00:39:27.780 as a Pressfield talks about that, that thing 00:39:27.780 --> 00:39:30.039 that wants you to be lazy. If you, if you have 00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:32.079 value in that, you find value in that and it 00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:35.880 helps you live like a more enriched, more fulfilling 00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:38.860 life. You tend to just keep doing that because 00:39:38.860 --> 00:39:42.159 this is like, if I, I know for a fact me, as 00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:44.679 much as I work out and take care of myself, if 00:39:44.679 --> 00:39:47.599 I take like three days off, you'll start to get 00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:49.739 used to it. I start getting depressed. I start 00:39:49.739 --> 00:39:52.400 getting anxious. I start feeling weird. Like 00:39:52.400 --> 00:39:56.019 I don't feel level. Like a couple of days off, 00:39:56.059 --> 00:39:58.420 you're just like, ugh, I just feel gross. I was 00:39:58.420 --> 00:40:00.179 just like, why is the world so weird? And then 00:40:00.179 --> 00:40:02.440 I'll have one good hard workout, and then I'm 00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:04.860 like, oh, everything's fine. And I'm like, how 00:40:04.860 --> 00:40:06.559 many people need that and don't get it? So what 00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:10.000 is that? It's just a human body has certain requirements 00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:13.480 because it's designed to run from tigers. The 00:40:13.480 --> 00:40:17.579 human body is designed to constantly be. So you 00:40:17.579 --> 00:40:19.960 have to feed it. Yeah. You have to feed it. You 00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:21.519 have to deal with these difficult things because 00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:23.420 for millions of years, that's how our brains 00:40:23.420 --> 00:40:25.800 and bodies have been processed to work efficiently. 00:40:25.820 --> 00:40:28.880 And if you don't put in those situations, what 00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:32.260 is the messaging like? You're wasting this time 00:40:32.260 --> 00:40:34.960 here? What is that internal messaging? You can 00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:38.380 have both, right? You can have people that have 00:40:38.380 --> 00:40:41.340 brilliant minds and shit bodies. They exist. 00:40:41.659 --> 00:40:43.400 There's people that don't take care of their 00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:47.219 body at all. Yeah, Stephen Hawking. But he had 00:40:47.219 --> 00:40:50.079 a disease. But it wasn't like an Adonis before. 00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:52.420 Right, that's true too. Yeah. People act like 00:40:52.420 --> 00:40:56.309 it's a big difference. Yeah, but the best way 00:40:56.309 --> 00:40:59.570 for your brain to work well is if your body is 00:40:59.570 --> 00:41:02.650 healthy and has energy. It doesn't mean you have 00:41:02.650 --> 00:41:04.349 to be a weightlifter. It doesn't mean you have 00:41:04.349 --> 00:41:07.190 to be – you don't have to do any specific thing. 00:41:07.309 --> 00:41:09.349 If you like running, run. If you like tennis, 00:41:09.550 --> 00:41:12.690 play tennis. If you like yoga, do yoga. But you 00:41:12.690 --> 00:41:15.690 should 100 % do something. Find a thing you enjoy 00:41:15.690 --> 00:41:19.230 doing. That's why golf or rather tennis is such 00:41:19.230 --> 00:41:21.269 a great thing because it's cardio and it's fun. 00:41:21.449 --> 00:41:23.889 Yeah. Right? You're doing a fun thing. You're 00:41:23.889 --> 00:41:25.750 playing with your friends. Also community. Yeah, 00:41:25.829 --> 00:41:29.050 community. Huge. Yeah. But you're – You're active. 00:41:29.250 --> 00:41:32.429 If you don't do that, I don't think your body 00:41:32.429 --> 00:41:35.289 is in sync. And I think there's a whole lot of 00:41:35.289 --> 00:41:37.329 people running out there taking care of things 00:41:37.329 --> 00:41:41.289 with pills that you could fix way better and 00:41:41.289 --> 00:41:46.230 feel and look better. More importantly, it would 00:41:46.230 --> 00:41:49.050 help in every aspect of your life. It would help 00:41:49.050 --> 00:41:51.269 you think clearer. You'd have less stress. You'd 00:41:51.269 --> 00:41:54.360 be more reasonable. Like, go fucking do something 00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:57.619 with your goddamn body. And if you don't do that, 00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:00.260 I really believe if you don't do that, you have 00:42:00.260 --> 00:42:03.400 less potential. You can have a genius mind that 00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:05.340 allows you to overcome that potential, which 00:42:05.340 --> 00:42:10.179 is... Just pure intelligence. Just a pure insight 00:42:10.179 --> 00:42:12.340 on the world that's extraordinary. You could 00:42:12.340 --> 00:42:15.800 overcome bullshit hormone levels and bullshit 00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:19.239 body fat levels. You could, but you shouldn't. 00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:21.579 You're so fucking smart and you've got a terrible 00:42:21.579 --> 00:42:24.079 body? What's wrong with you? You have one of 00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:26.000 these goddamn things. You can make that thing 00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:28.860 awesome. You don't even do anything. You have 00:42:28.860 --> 00:42:31.659 one of these. You get one fucking body and yours 00:42:31.659 --> 00:42:34.599 is a... dumpster yeah yours is a dumpster for 00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:38.179 potato chips that's crazy what do you like when 00:42:38.179 --> 00:42:39.699 you're talking to these high -functioning dudes 00:42:39.699 --> 00:42:42.659 you're talking to like an Elon is there did they 00:42:42.659 --> 00:42:45.480 value exercise and stuff like that at all like 00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:48.579 can he even put that in his day like Elon's a 00:42:48.579 --> 00:42:50.920 different animal there's no other human I've 00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:55.539 ever met like him No, I don't think he exercises 00:42:55.539 --> 00:42:57.860 much. I think maybe a little bit. I know he was 00:42:57.860 --> 00:42:59.400 thinking about fighting Zuckerberg, so he did 00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:01.880 some training. He trained with Lex and who else? 00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:05.559 Was it Georges St -Pierre? They put up a photo 00:43:05.559 --> 00:43:08.219 of it. It was George, right? So he trains with 00:43:08.219 --> 00:43:10.280 one of the greatest... UFC fighters of all time. 00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:12.940 Yeah. Lex Friedman, our boy, who is also a Brazilian 00:43:12.940 --> 00:43:15.139 jiu -jitsu black belt. Yeah. And I think he just 00:43:15.139 --> 00:43:17.380 did a little bit of that. It was like, fuck this. 00:43:17.659 --> 00:43:19.760 Shout out Lex, man. Yeah, there it is. Look at 00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:21.480 Lex. And John Donaher, the great John Donaher, 00:43:21.539 --> 00:43:23.480 the greatest jiu -jitsu coach of all time. So 00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:25.380 he was like learning some stuff. I'll never forget 00:43:25.380 --> 00:43:28.500 Lex coming to my wedding uninvited and blacking 00:43:28.500 --> 00:43:31.530 out. I'll never forget that. I'll never forget 00:43:31.530 --> 00:43:33.130 that. Thank you, Lex. We really appreciate that. 00:43:33.389 --> 00:43:35.710 In all fairness, it was my fault that he blacked 00:43:35.710 --> 00:43:39.510 out. You forced him to drink. I kind of got him 00:43:39.510 --> 00:43:42.130 a drink and didn't realize the Russian in him 00:43:42.130 --> 00:43:48.130 had a mind of its own. That Russian mixed with 00:43:48.130 --> 00:43:50.670 that fucking American bourbon. The motherfucker 00:43:50.670 --> 00:43:52.429 was off to the races. It was so funny. Whitney 00:43:52.429 --> 00:43:53.710 was like, yeah, I'm going to take Lex. I was 00:43:53.710 --> 00:43:55.309 like, oh, okay, cool. Yeah, I like that guy. 00:43:55.429 --> 00:43:57.210 And then I remember seeing him on like a beach 00:43:57.210 --> 00:43:59.530 chair just pass the fuck out. Oh, dude, we had 00:43:59.530 --> 00:44:01.949 an adventure. Yeah. You guys went to Vegas later 00:44:01.949 --> 00:44:03.250 that night, right? We go to Vegas that night 00:44:03.250 --> 00:44:06.329 because Whitney had a wedding. She had a wedding. 00:44:06.650 --> 00:44:08.530 She did a wedding at someone's house. It was 00:44:08.530 --> 00:44:09.429 a corporate gig. Oh, it was a gig, yeah, yeah, 00:44:09.429 --> 00:44:10.769 yeah. But it was a wedding at someone's house. 00:44:10.869 --> 00:44:12.409 Yeah. I think it was a wedding or a birthday, 00:44:12.610 --> 00:44:14.730 whatever it was. Yeah. Party, private party at 00:44:14.730 --> 00:44:17.280 someone's house. Must have been a birthday. So 00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:20.960 we fly from your wedding. Hey, congratulations. 00:44:21.239 --> 00:44:24.019 We hang out and then hop on a jet. You know, 00:44:24.019 --> 00:44:26.519 it's only 30 minutes to Vegas. We get to Vegas. 00:44:26.579 --> 00:44:30.280 By the time we land, Lex is lit. I mean, Lex 00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:32.380 is lit. He was lit at the party. Lit, lit, lit. 00:44:32.659 --> 00:44:38.090 So Whitney. performs at this lady's house. Didn't 00:44:38.090 --> 00:44:40.610 you go on? I introduce her. Oh, I thought you 00:44:40.610 --> 00:44:42.510 did like five minutes. No, I was drunk too. I 00:44:42.510 --> 00:44:44.929 went up and said happy birthday, whatever, to 00:44:44.929 --> 00:44:46.889 the lady. I forget what it was. I'm pretty sure 00:44:46.889 --> 00:44:49.809 it was birthday. And then I bring up my good 00:44:49.809 --> 00:44:51.389 friend, one of the most hilarious comics in the 00:44:51.389 --> 00:44:56.429 world. Where did he come? And then we get on 00:44:56.429 --> 00:44:59.010 the plane, or we get in the car to go to the 00:44:59.010 --> 00:45:02.719 plane to head back, and there's no plane. They 00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:06.909 never booked a return flight. So we tried. So 00:45:06.909 --> 00:45:08.809 we try to get a return flight because they got 00:45:08.809 --> 00:45:11.550 our little shitty private jet to get there. So 00:45:11.550 --> 00:45:13.610 then we try to get a return flight. We cannot. 00:45:13.730 --> 00:45:16.489 I call my service. The quickest they can do is 00:45:16.489 --> 00:45:18.130 in the morning. Like, what do you guys want to 00:45:18.130 --> 00:45:21.210 do? So we decide that we're going to get a limo 00:45:21.210 --> 00:45:24.369 and so have a car service drive us back to L 00:45:24.369 --> 00:45:27.030 .A. Love it. So it's a four -hour drive or whatever 00:45:27.030 --> 00:45:29.690 the fuck it is. It's me, my wife, Whitney, and 00:45:29.690 --> 00:45:32.050 Lex. I remember you just sending me videos of 00:45:32.050 --> 00:45:35.130 Lex passed out at different parts of the casino. 00:45:38.409 --> 00:45:42.090 That's at the airport. That's at the airport. 00:45:43.250 --> 00:45:45.230 But he's like that for the last 12 hours. He 00:45:45.230 --> 00:45:47.269 was like that at the wedding. He was obliterated. 00:45:47.349 --> 00:45:49.570 I mean, he went hard. That boy goes hard. He 00:45:49.570 --> 00:45:52.050 goes hard. It makes you want to not drink. There's 00:45:52.050 --> 00:45:53.670 certain people I'm around, I'm like, I think 00:45:53.670 --> 00:45:55.449 I'm done. I think I'm done. I feel like less 00:45:55.449 --> 00:45:57.539 people are drinking. Well, it's really a good 00:45:57.539 --> 00:45:59.659 idea. That might be your influence. It's a good 00:45:59.659 --> 00:46:02.579 idea to not drink so much. I wonder if the alcohol 00:46:02.579 --> 00:46:04.820 companies are concerned. They're trying to find 00:46:04.820 --> 00:46:06.699 something. There's always going to be drunks. 00:46:06.900 --> 00:46:12.500 I see it like beer consumption way down. The 00:46:12.500 --> 00:46:15.099 problem is it's poison. Yeah. But everything's 00:46:15.099 --> 00:46:17.139 poison. It's wonderful, lovely poison. Yeah. 00:46:17.139 --> 00:46:20.980 My favorite poison is wine. I love a great glass 00:46:20.980 --> 00:46:23.440 of wine. Do we have a nice little red going on 00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:26.449 here? Do we have any red wine here? I want to 00:46:26.449 --> 00:46:27.849 know what you're drinking. There's something. 00:46:28.090 --> 00:46:31.880 There's at least some out there for sure. Do 00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:33.159 you want some? I mean, if you're going to have 00:46:33.159 --> 00:46:34.599 a glass, I'll have a glass. I'll have a little 00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:35.679 sip with you. Just a little sip. I've got to 00:46:35.679 --> 00:46:38.619 cut way back on my alcohol consumption. Oh, really? 00:46:38.780 --> 00:46:41.260 Yeah, way, way back. I would go, every time I'd 00:46:41.260 --> 00:46:43.900 go out to dinner, I'd have a drink or two. Yeah. 00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:45.920 Every time I'd go to the club, I'd have a drink 00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:47.820 or two. And then one day I sat down, I was like, 00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:49.840 that's like four days a week, five days a week. 00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:51.860 That's like a drink or two, five days a week. 00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:53.539 Like, how would you feel if you didn't have a 00:46:53.539 --> 00:46:55.380 drink or two five days a week? So I didn't have 00:46:55.380 --> 00:46:57.980 any drinks for like two weeks, and I feel a lot 00:46:57.980 --> 00:47:01.119 better. So am I breaking your like - Streak right 00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:03.099 now? Yeah, you would be breaking my streak. I 00:47:03.099 --> 00:47:04.380 don't want to fucking streak up. Well, we don't 00:47:04.380 --> 00:47:06.340 have to drink it then. Actually, let's break 00:47:06.340 --> 00:47:10.260 it. I don't mind. I think the key is, like all 00:47:10.260 --> 00:47:13.039 things, it's all about moderation. But the reality 00:47:13.039 --> 00:47:15.179 of alcohol is it's basically poison. Yeah, but 00:47:15.179 --> 00:47:18.059 it's got great social utility. Oh, yeah. I feel 00:47:18.059 --> 00:47:20.960 like people undermine the value of alcohol and 00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:23.420 how - It ain't around for all these years because 00:47:23.420 --> 00:47:27.039 it sucks. And if you travel, you don't get to 00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:30.309 experience certain cultures. In their truest 00:47:30.309 --> 00:47:33.630 form without them consuming alcohol. Right. Like 00:47:33.630 --> 00:47:35.530 if you've gone to like Ireland, you go to Dublin. 00:47:35.630 --> 00:47:37.630 Like during the day, there are very different 00:47:37.630 --> 00:47:40.369 people. And they seem kind of like tight and 00:47:40.369 --> 00:47:43.590 dour. And then at night at the pub after like 00:47:43.590 --> 00:47:47.519 a few Guinness, it seems almost cliche. But everybody's 00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:50.019 singing and dancing, and there's so much love 00:47:50.019 --> 00:47:52.699 and connectivity. And you see why all this great 00:47:52.699 --> 00:47:55.360 literature, music, and poetry just comes from 00:47:55.360 --> 00:47:57.719 this tiny little island. And you're like, oh, 00:47:57.739 --> 00:48:00.440 wow, you really need that. It is a tough place 00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:02.840 to live, and you've got to stuff everything down, 00:48:02.940 --> 00:48:05.360 and you need a release valve. Same thing with 00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:07.719 Russia. When I was in Russia, seeing them on 00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:10.159 the drink, they're winning. On the drink. On 00:48:10.159 --> 00:48:13.860 the drink. They're warmer. There's warmth in 00:48:13.860 --> 00:48:15.480 the culture. That's a great way to explain it, 00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:17.159 though, on the drink. For real. We have fancy 00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:21.420 glasses. Okay. What are you thinking, Joe? Which 00:48:21.420 --> 00:48:26.840 one was the one that you just touched? Grab that 00:48:26.840 --> 00:48:30.840 one. It's where your hand is. That's what we're 00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:33.519 going to decide. 97 was a long time ago. How 00:48:33.519 --> 00:48:36.380 do you find that balance where you kind of need 00:48:36.380 --> 00:48:40.400 it? That's old -ass wine, huh? How do you find 00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:44.760 what balance? It allows people to access this 00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:47.039 part of themselves that they might feel is like 00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:50.239 a... push down or the problem is if you use it 00:48:50.239 --> 00:48:52.519 too much right yeah and it's also the problem 00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:55.260 is like i notice if i drink three or four nights 00:48:55.260 --> 00:48:58.039 in a week i don't feel as good yeah and when 00:48:58.039 --> 00:49:00.079 i don't drink at all for two weeks and i feel 00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:01.739 like really good all the time like what am i 00:49:01.739 --> 00:49:03.260 retarded why am i drinking why would i drink 00:49:03.260 --> 00:49:05.219 yeah like i don't need to drink to have a good 00:49:05.219 --> 00:49:07.239 time yeah but you know when you're at the bar 00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:09.420 or at the club rather and everyone's being social 00:49:09.420 --> 00:49:11.539 and tony's like who wants to drink anybody want 00:49:11.539 --> 00:49:15.559 to drink okay cheers yeah it's just about discipline 00:49:16.139 --> 00:49:18.159 It's just about, like, if you feel like you're 00:49:18.159 --> 00:49:20.980 going off the rails, hit the brakes, settle down, 00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:24.960 what are you doing? But a lot of folks don't 00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:27.599 have any of that, unfortunately. And, you know, 00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:31.360 they'll be sober for a long time, and then one 00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:34.360 glass of Chardonnay later. They're doing cocaine 00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:36.820 and headed to Vegas. It's not even the alcohol. 00:49:37.159 --> 00:49:41.639 Lewis Lex Friedman. Blowing rails on a private 00:49:41.639 --> 00:49:47.000 jet. Who does coke and passes out? That's how 00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:55.019 drunk you are. There's something so funny about 00:49:55.019 --> 00:49:58.039 people passed out. It's the funniest shit ever. 00:49:58.039 --> 00:50:00.039 They've become children. They're babies. They're 00:50:00.039 --> 00:50:02.159 like infants. They're just completely out of 00:50:02.159 --> 00:50:04.139 control of their body. Yeah, you're not even 00:50:04.139 --> 00:50:07.880 there. Hello. Look at you out cold. It's just 00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:09.820 a weird aspect to people that we have to shut 00:50:09.820 --> 00:50:13.960 off. Yeah. That's so weird. I was just watching 00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:18.900 this video about this guy who he did a radio 00:50:18.900 --> 00:50:22.280 broadcast in Times Square where he stayed up 00:50:22.280 --> 00:50:26.380 for eight days. And this guy started having crazy 00:50:26.380 --> 00:50:29.940 hallucinations. He was having his REM sleep. 00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:33.059 His REM cycles in his brain were going off while 00:50:33.059 --> 00:50:35.980 he was awake. So he's living inside nightmares. 00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:39.460 I'll send it to Jamie. It was crazy. I think 00:50:39.460 --> 00:50:42.699 Duncan sent it to me. It's really wild. They 00:50:42.699 --> 00:50:45.239 say that can induce insanity faster than anything, 00:50:45.380 --> 00:50:49.360 right? Oh, for sure, dude. I mean, without a 00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:52.260 doubt. The sleep deprivation. Yeah, sleep deprivation 00:50:52.260 --> 00:50:54.579 is really bad for you. How many hours do you 00:50:54.579 --> 00:50:57.599 get a night? I try to get at least seven. Oh, 00:50:57.619 --> 00:51:01.340 wow. But if I have good nights, I get more. But 00:51:01.340 --> 00:51:03.679 what if you come home late from the club? When 00:51:03.679 --> 00:51:09.170 I do, if it's... School days, especially. I get 00:51:09.170 --> 00:51:11.469 up in the morning, I say goodbye, and then I'll 00:51:11.469 --> 00:51:14.429 maybe go back to sleep for an hour. So I'll get 00:51:14.429 --> 00:51:17.849 up with them, see them off, and then I'll go 00:51:17.849 --> 00:51:19.829 back to sleep for one more hour. Because I can 00:51:19.829 --> 00:51:22.789 sleep on the ground, dude. I can go to sleep 00:51:22.789 --> 00:51:27.710 on rocks. I know how to pass out. So I can go 00:51:27.710 --> 00:51:30.210 right back to sleep and I'm good. But I like 00:51:30.210 --> 00:51:32.829 seven. But I can function on six. I had six last 00:51:32.829 --> 00:51:35.010 night. I had to get up in the morning for a dentist 00:51:35.010 --> 00:51:40.079 appointment. But generally speaking, I'm looking 00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:42.800 for eight. Yeah. I like eight. Yeah. Eight's 00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:44.440 where it's at. I don't think I've had eight hours. 00:51:44.760 --> 00:51:47.579 I don't think I've had eight hours since I had 00:51:47.579 --> 00:51:50.000 a kid. Oh, yeah. I didn't either for a while. 00:51:51.340 --> 00:51:57.260 It takes a long time. And it's also like your 00:51:57.260 --> 00:52:02.559 day is way more occupied. Oh. It's a completely 00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:05.500 different. Yeah. You really realize how much. 00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:09.400 your actual time working on something is precious. 00:52:10.269 --> 00:52:11.869 when you have children because, like, they just 00:52:11.869 --> 00:52:14.449 go to bed. You're like, okay, I got an hour to 00:52:14.449 --> 00:52:17.110 get some shit done. You know, you got one hour. 00:52:17.170 --> 00:52:18.650 You don't have an hour to flip through your phone, 00:52:18.730 --> 00:52:20.909 check out TikTok. Uh -uh. You got an hour to 00:52:20.909 --> 00:52:23.170 get something done. And then you got to go to 00:52:23.170 --> 00:52:24.969 bed. And then you got to get up in the morning. 00:52:25.030 --> 00:52:26.230 You got to get up early. You got to help with 00:52:26.230 --> 00:52:27.610 this, help with that. We're doing this. We're 00:52:27.610 --> 00:52:29.170 doing that. We're packing our stuff in here. 00:52:29.369 --> 00:52:30.829 And, okay, let's go there. And there's a thing 00:52:30.829 --> 00:52:33.030 after school. Remember, it's at 4 .30. Don't 00:52:33.030 --> 00:52:35.550 be late. Okay? 4 .30. And then you got to zoom 00:52:35.550 --> 00:52:39.070 over from here. It's like your day is so occupied. 00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:40.739 It makes you more disciplined. It makes you more 00:52:40.739 --> 00:52:42.820 disciplined, and it makes you feel more productive. 00:52:42.940 --> 00:52:45.820 Like, it's weird. Like, even going out and, like, 00:52:45.820 --> 00:52:47.619 say, having some drinks or whatever and waking 00:52:47.619 --> 00:52:49.940 up and feeling kind of shitty, without, like, 00:52:49.960 --> 00:52:52.380 the kid, I kind of feel guilty by halfway through 00:52:52.380 --> 00:52:53.639 the day. I'm like, what was I doing? Why the 00:52:53.639 --> 00:52:55.860 fuck did I go out and party? But when I'm, like, 00:52:55.860 --> 00:52:58.059 up at 7 and I'm fucking tired and I'm hungover, 00:52:58.139 --> 00:53:00.679 and I'm with my wife taking care of the baby, 00:53:00.739 --> 00:53:04.219 by 12, I'm like, I'm a good fucking parent. Like, 00:53:04.260 --> 00:53:07.349 I feel like this... I feel like a positive sensation 00:53:07.349 --> 00:53:10.710 in the place of this like guilt ridden one that 00:53:10.710 --> 00:53:13.030 I would used to feel maybe. And I think it's 00:53:13.030 --> 00:53:14.989 that immediate productivity, that purpose. There's 00:53:14.989 --> 00:53:16.409 this human being you love more than anything 00:53:16.409 --> 00:53:20.750 that is like deeply relying on you. And yeah, 00:53:20.849 --> 00:53:22.869 I feel, I don't know. It's also the kind of love 00:53:22.869 --> 00:53:25.610 you have with them. It's just indescribable. 00:53:25.650 --> 00:53:27.769 How old were you when you had your first? 40. 00:53:28.590 --> 00:53:31.969 Yeah. So I'm 41. So I was, yeah, it's the same 00:53:31.969 --> 00:53:36.659 thing. it's yeah it's every cliche it's amazing 00:53:36.659 --> 00:53:39.219 you spend all this time as a as a comedian like 00:53:39.219 --> 00:53:42.400 thinking of unique or different angles and then 00:53:42.400 --> 00:53:45.880 you're presented with your child and like every 00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:49.500 feeling you have is the most cliched feeling 00:53:49.500 --> 00:53:52.239 that everybody has ever described in having a 00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:54.619 child yeah and then you don't mind when babies 00:53:54.619 --> 00:53:56.860 are crying on airplanes anymore dude it completely 00:53:56.860 --> 00:54:00.679 changes everything It is adorable when they're 00:54:00.679 --> 00:54:03.639 crying on the airplane. You almost want to help 00:54:03.639 --> 00:54:05.960 the mom. Isn't that crazy how when you're a young 00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:08.000 man, you're like, oh my God, a baby's crying. 00:54:08.300 --> 00:54:10.260 You look for something to cover your ears with. 00:54:10.500 --> 00:54:14.219 That's also a big city thing. I feel like places 00:54:14.219 --> 00:54:16.880 that - Like country places where they're so used 00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:19.000 to - Where there's family dynamics and that's 00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:20.860 rewarded. I grew up in the city where it just 00:54:20.860 --> 00:54:24.139 wasn't that rewarded. It's a rare thing to even 00:54:24.139 --> 00:54:28.550 be a kid in the city. Especially - You're a kid 00:54:28.550 --> 00:54:31.730 in the city, and then you go from that to being 00:54:31.730 --> 00:54:33.949 a stand -up comedian, so you're a nighttime, 00:54:34.309 --> 00:54:37.849 nightclub guy. Like, the whole baby crying, like, 00:54:37.889 --> 00:54:41.809 oh, Jesus. Yeah. It's like, whew, some bad decision 00:54:41.809 --> 00:54:44.449 -making going on over there. Yeah. Yeah. But 00:54:44.449 --> 00:54:46.789 it is—I wish that—I would like us to change that 00:54:46.789 --> 00:54:49.130 a bit. I think that's the thing that's kind of 00:54:49.130 --> 00:54:52.150 missing in this masculinity movement is fatherhood. 00:54:52.690 --> 00:54:54.369 I hear a lot of guys talking about - Is there 00:54:54.369 --> 00:54:56.570 a masculinity movement going on? Apparently on 00:54:56.570 --> 00:54:59.250 these pods that we do. Is that what it is? We're 00:54:59.250 --> 00:55:01.510 the manosphere, dude. This is where fucking men 00:55:01.510 --> 00:55:03.409 hang out. I don't think they consider us the 00:55:03.409 --> 00:55:05.469 manosphere, honestly. I think the manosphere 00:55:05.469 --> 00:55:07.610 is like those pickup artist type dudes. But that's 00:55:07.610 --> 00:55:09.809 the thing. None of those guys have kids, or they 00:55:09.809 --> 00:55:12.090 talk about what it is to be a man, and it's like 00:55:12.090 --> 00:55:14.849 - buddy like you're missing out on the most important 00:55:14.849 --> 00:55:16.969 part of the entire process yeah like i want to 00:55:16.969 --> 00:55:18.550 hear the guys who have a bunch of kids telling 00:55:18.550 --> 00:55:20.750 me what it is to be a man right like to me that's 00:55:20.750 --> 00:55:23.690 way more valuable and i feel like they're missing 00:55:23.690 --> 00:55:26.369 out on like the defining moment in a man's life 00:55:26.369 --> 00:55:29.289 even bitches have alpha bitches there's like 00:55:29.289 --> 00:55:34.380 a leader of the bitches oh that's fire You know, 00:55:34.380 --> 00:55:37.679 so they're a leader of a movement. But what kind 00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:39.579 of movement are you leading, bro? Yeah. What 00:55:39.579 --> 00:55:41.179 kind of movement are you leading? Yeah. You know? 00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:44.059 It is. Yeah. You go to an island full of bitches 00:55:44.059 --> 00:55:45.139 and you could become the king. There's going 00:55:45.139 --> 00:55:47.079 to be somebody there. Just find out who that 00:55:47.079 --> 00:55:51.519 head bitch is and say, yeah, time's up. And those 00:55:51.519 --> 00:55:53.820 bitches are probably easier to lead. Oh, yeah, 00:55:53.840 --> 00:55:56.539 for sure. That bitch has been leading them. Yeah. 00:55:57.340 --> 00:56:04.760 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I saw once CNN after the election, 00:56:04.860 --> 00:56:07.300 they were talking about us in specific, and they 00:56:07.300 --> 00:56:10.500 were talking about how there is this network 00:56:10.500 --> 00:56:13.900 of podcasts that are interconnected that has 00:56:13.900 --> 00:56:20.340 been financed. This huge corporate finance network. 00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:23.280 It's called Black Rifle Coffee. It's so stupid. 00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:26.280 No, it's actually just a bunch of friends, you 00:56:26.280 --> 00:56:28.440 fucking idiots. We just happen to do each other's 00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:32.909 podcasts. sort it out. They support each other. 00:56:33.010 --> 00:56:35.949 They go on each other's shows and they're all 00:56:35.949 --> 00:56:38.809 in this together. We need that on the left. Good 00:56:38.809 --> 00:56:42.349 luck. You guys cancel each other if your fucking 00:56:42.349 --> 00:56:48.969 Ukraine flag is too small. Six by six. You fucking 00:56:48.969 --> 00:56:50.989 talk shit about each other for not having trans 00:56:50.989 --> 00:56:53.769 kids. You guys are out of your mind. You're not 00:56:53.769 --> 00:56:57.210 going to sync up together. You're in a suicide 00:56:57.210 --> 00:57:01.300 cult. I think that was The results of the election, 00:57:01.420 --> 00:57:03.300 I don't think that they would like to believe 00:57:03.300 --> 00:57:06.179 this, but it was a rejection of what was happening. 00:57:06.320 --> 00:57:08.539 I think the assumption is everybody just loves 00:57:08.539 --> 00:57:10.760 Trump and he's just this populist and every person 00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:12.239 that voted for him is like, I just love everything 00:57:12.239 --> 00:57:15.280 about this guy. But I actually think that a lot 00:57:15.280 --> 00:57:17.960 of people. We're just like, I don't like what's 00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:20.440 happening now. Right. And this current administration 00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:23.139 is saying that they don't want to change much 00:57:23.139 --> 00:57:26.059 that's happening now. Right. So I'm voting against 00:57:26.059 --> 00:57:28.639 that lack of change. Right. And I think it's 00:57:28.639 --> 00:57:30.920 important for them to realize that. I talk about 00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:33.199 this a lot, especially with Charlotte on the 00:57:33.199 --> 00:57:35.500 pod. And it's just like you have to be reflective 00:57:35.500 --> 00:57:37.880 of what the people are telling you. Like when 00:57:37.880 --> 00:57:40.460 the Mangione thing happened and the reaction 00:57:40.460 --> 00:57:43.039 by the people was to laugh at it. Yeah, they 00:57:43.039 --> 00:57:45.539 were kind of pumped. But you got to look at that 00:57:45.539 --> 00:57:48.500 and you got to pay very close attention to what 00:57:48.500 --> 00:57:51.139 people are feeling. Don't tell them what they 00:57:51.139 --> 00:57:53.340 should feel. And, you know, better. And, oh, 00:57:53.420 --> 00:57:55.239 we have to lead them to the water because they're 00:57:55.239 --> 00:57:57.480 too stupid to know how to find it. No, no, no. 00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:00.860 They are disillusioned by the medical system. 00:58:01.340 --> 00:58:03.360 And if you don't meet them there, you're never 00:58:03.360 --> 00:58:07.079 going to win ever. Yeah. And I feel like that's 00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:09.260 at least from talking to Trump. That was something 00:58:09.260 --> 00:58:11.780 that I got from him is like. It doesn't seem 00:58:11.780 --> 00:58:13.599 like it when you see him on the news and shit, 00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:15.860 but he's like an acute listener. Like he listens 00:58:15.860 --> 00:58:19.420 to what people are saying. And he listens, more 00:58:19.420 --> 00:58:21.719 importantly, what they're feeling. And he can 00:58:21.719 --> 00:58:24.079 tap into those feelings. And I think that that's 00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:26.119 what people who've had a lot of success in politics 00:58:26.119 --> 00:58:28.559 were able to do. Barack did it. Bill Clinton 00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:31.320 did it. Probably maybe the best. Bill might have 00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:33.860 been the best. His ability to communicate to 00:58:33.860 --> 00:58:37.579 people what they were feeling. I know you feel 00:58:37.579 --> 00:58:41.010 pain. I do feel pain, Bill. I'm here for you. 00:58:41.250 --> 00:58:45.230 You are? I am. I would love that. You know, it 00:58:45.230 --> 00:58:47.789 was... I'm going to be your leader. Yeah, it 00:58:47.789 --> 00:58:52.210 was... Yeah, it's... You need to listen. I think 00:58:52.210 --> 00:58:54.690 what Trump's done that's really brilliant is 00:58:54.690 --> 00:58:57.510 bring in people like Tulsi Gabbard, Robert F. 00:58:57.570 --> 00:59:00.489 Kennedy Jr., Cash Patel. Bring in those people 00:59:00.489 --> 00:59:05.070 and you kind of really do get a chance to change 00:59:05.070 --> 00:59:06.929 things, like legitimately change things. But 00:59:06.929 --> 00:59:08.349 think about that decision, right? It's like, 00:59:08.719 --> 00:59:12.639 And those people are all echoing sentiments that 00:59:12.639 --> 00:59:16.380 the majority of Americans feel. We do not trust 00:59:16.380 --> 00:59:19.559 the food. Here's the guy who says the food is 00:59:19.559 --> 00:59:22.280 bad. Right. Maybe we should put him in control 00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:25.519 of the food. Kind of like a simple thing. Yeah. 00:59:25.619 --> 00:59:27.960 Instead of going, well, this guy is the food 00:59:27.960 --> 00:59:30.000 doctor and we're going to hire the food doctor 00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:32.099 because he knows what food is good for you and 00:59:32.099 --> 00:59:34.000 you guys should just shut up and listen. And 00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:36.000 I feel like there's a lot of this like top down. 00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:40.159 on the left and i'm not trying to just like bag 00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:42.260 on the left i don't care really about that like 00:59:42.260 --> 00:59:43.599 i don't even care about the politics i care more 00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:46.039 about like where the the cultural liquidity is 00:59:46.039 --> 00:59:49.820 it's like you can't talk down to people there's 00:59:49.820 --> 00:59:52.559 this like ivy league pretentiousness in the democratic 00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:55.179 party i feel where they're like we know better 00:59:55.179 --> 00:59:57.980 and just you must be stupid if you don't agree 00:59:57.980 --> 01:00:01.079 with us it's like all right well i'm stupid i'm 01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:04.960 dumb i'm dumb then so why doesn't somebody meet 01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:07.190 me where i'm stupid And start at least making 01:00:07.190 --> 01:00:09.469 me feel like I'm not an asshole for the way that 01:00:09.469 --> 01:00:12.190 I, you know, for my, I guess you could say political 01:00:12.190 --> 01:00:15.050 leanings now. Yeah, I feel like they need to 01:00:15.050 --> 01:00:16.829 meet. And it's a very simple thing. Make it a 01:00:16.829 --> 01:00:19.690 class issue. And I think they win. And say what 01:00:19.690 --> 01:00:21.449 you want about America. But I think it's better 01:00:21.449 --> 01:00:23.210 if we have two president or two people running 01:00:23.210 --> 01:00:24.750 for president that we're stoked about. And it's 01:00:24.750 --> 01:00:26.670 a really hard decision. Oh, yeah. That would 01:00:26.670 --> 01:00:30.190 be wonderful. Yeah. That's not what we had. We 01:00:30.190 --> 01:00:32.190 had one group of people that legitimately wanted 01:00:32.190 --> 01:00:33.889 to change things and then we're gonna see what 01:00:33.889 --> 01:00:36.250 happens if they do What but you're seeing weird 01:00:36.250 --> 01:00:39.050 stuff today that you never see before which is 01:00:39.050 --> 01:00:41.590 like a real adjustment to the age of the internet 01:00:41.590 --> 01:00:43.809 One of the things you're seeing is and if you 01:00:43.809 --> 01:00:47.550 saw the 22 different Congress people who are 01:00:47.550 --> 01:00:51.989 all saying the exact same line With the word 01:00:51.989 --> 01:00:55.179 shit in it. What was the line? So it's like It's 01:00:55.179 --> 01:00:57.960 this speech. They're reading it verbatim. They're 01:00:57.960 --> 01:01:00.699 all reading it and doing it to a microphone as 01:01:00.699 --> 01:01:03.920 if it's a rant. But they're all doing from the 01:01:03.920 --> 01:01:07.320 same script, and the shit ain't right. The shit 01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:10.440 ain't right is the beginning of it. When in the 01:01:10.440 --> 01:01:12.320 history of the United States has a politician 01:01:12.320 --> 01:01:18.059 said shit? And not just one, but 22 of them in 01:01:18.059 --> 01:01:19.860 tape recording. Can you pull it up just so we 01:01:19.860 --> 01:01:22.599 can see it? Because it's so nuts when you see 01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:25.860 them all together. It's just like they have it 01:01:25.860 --> 01:01:28.159 on screens as tiles, and they're all saying the 01:01:28.159 --> 01:01:29.880 same words. They all have their own little flair 01:01:29.880 --> 01:01:32.460 they put on it. Look at this. Put your headphones 01:01:32.460 --> 01:01:45.559 on. This is fucking bananas. It's okay. You won't 01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:46.820 be able to, you can't really tell. It's like 01:01:46.820 --> 01:01:49.360 a crowd. But when they had three of them, when 01:01:49.360 --> 01:01:52.219 it was the first three was like, it was Chuck 01:01:52.219 --> 01:01:56.460 Schumer and someone else. Yeah. They're saying 01:01:56.460 --> 01:01:58.320 the exact, oh, Elizabeth Warren and someone else. 01:01:58.360 --> 01:02:01.599 Yeah. They're saying the exact same words. Yeah. 01:02:01.619 --> 01:02:04.099 In the exact same subjects, in the exact same 01:02:04.099 --> 01:02:06.619 order. You guys are all reading off a script 01:02:06.619 --> 01:02:09.099 and you're trying by putting the word shit in 01:02:09.099 --> 01:02:12.019 there to be authentic. well shit ain't right 01:02:12.019 --> 01:02:14.239 to be specifically authentic they're like we 01:02:14.239 --> 01:02:16.739 need to speak to working class people to the 01:02:16.739 --> 01:02:20.280 kids yeah and it it is kind of like bigoted in 01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:22.539 a weird way where like they're it feels like 01:02:22.539 --> 01:02:24.099 they're almost in a think tank like hey listen 01:02:24.099 --> 01:02:26.800 these poor dummies they like it when you curse 01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:29.280 yeah so if you use a few curse words in your 01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:31.420 speech they're gonna really relate to you yeah 01:02:31.420 --> 01:02:33.239 and it's like no no we actually need somebody 01:02:33.239 --> 01:02:35.860 disruptive we need somebody on the left that 01:02:35.860 --> 01:02:38.590 is That might speak like that but authentically 01:02:38.590 --> 01:02:40.949 speaks like that and is willing to disrupt even 01:02:40.949 --> 01:02:42.630 what's happening the left because if you look 01:02:42.630 --> 01:02:43.909 at like what happened with the Trump and the 01:02:43.909 --> 01:02:45.650 movement like he Disrupted the right the right 01:02:45.650 --> 01:02:48.130 looks very different now than it did five ten 01:02:48.130 --> 01:02:50.769 years ago, right? Definitely. So I want like 01:02:50.769 --> 01:02:53.889 like a MAGA Democrat Yeah, like for real like 01:02:53.889 --> 01:02:56.269 and and what is that? Like what do we at the 01:02:56.269 --> 01:02:59.190 at our baseline want right? We like abundance 01:02:59.190 --> 01:03:02.630 Tell me how great America is going to be in your 01:03:02.630 --> 01:03:04.590 version of it. You want to build Clinton talk 01:03:04.590 --> 01:03:08.260 that shit Like come out talking shit. Bernie 01:03:08.260 --> 01:03:10.340 was talking shit. And I want you to come out. 01:03:10.360 --> 01:03:12.380 And if Trump can say, we're going to take Greenland, 01:03:12.460 --> 01:03:15.820 there can be some den that goes $1 eggs and straight 01:03:15.820 --> 01:03:17.199 up says, we're going to subsidize it. How would 01:03:17.199 --> 01:03:19.579 you do that? Subsidize it. Subsidize corn. You 01:03:19.579 --> 01:03:21.820 subsidize dairy. You subsidize everything. Like, 01:03:21.820 --> 01:03:24.000 why can we not subsidize it? But say something 01:03:24.000 --> 01:03:25.539 that's actually going to impact people. Now, 01:03:25.579 --> 01:03:27.320 Trump's not going to take Greenland. So maybe 01:03:27.320 --> 01:03:29.920 you don't get the $1 eggs, but you get this messaging 01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:31.760 across that you're actually trying to help people. 01:03:32.899 --> 01:03:34.719 and you're going to have to deal with those lobbies 01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:36.579 that are bankrolling you, and that might piss 01:03:36.579 --> 01:03:38.320 them the fuck off, but that's the disruption 01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:40.420 we need for us to trust you. You know what they 01:03:40.420 --> 01:03:42.219 really should do? What's that? They really should 01:03:42.219 --> 01:03:45.800 have a strategic plan. If we're spending, what 01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:48.039 is it, $350 billion went to Ukraine? What was 01:03:48.039 --> 01:03:49.800 the number? What are they saying it was? I don't 01:03:49.800 --> 01:03:53.260 know what the number is. Let's just be conservative 01:03:53.260 --> 01:03:55.440 and say $200 billion. Imagine if we spent $200 01:03:55.440 --> 01:03:59.460 billion in the United States in all of the crime 01:03:59.460 --> 01:04:02.800 -ridden cities of the country. Just completely 01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:06.019 overhauling them. All right. So here's my concern 01:04:06.019 --> 01:04:08.539 about that. How much did they spend in California 01:04:08.539 --> 01:04:12.679 on homelessness? $24 billion. And then nothing 01:04:12.679 --> 01:04:15.179 changed, right? No, they got worse. They did 01:04:15.179 --> 01:04:16.739 a good job. Awesome. They did a good job. So 01:04:16.739 --> 01:04:19.900 maybe we could spend $36 billion. So there's 01:04:19.900 --> 01:04:21.619 also this idea that the current administration 01:04:21.619 --> 01:04:25.940 in these places, even with an abundance of money, 01:04:26.019 --> 01:04:27.920 is not going to make change. So you need somebody 01:04:27.920 --> 01:04:30.699 from inside, from the left, to go, hey, these 01:04:30.699 --> 01:04:33.420 people are corrupt. On my team, we're going to 01:04:33.420 --> 01:04:35.599 root out that corruption, but we are going to 01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:37.440 take care of homelessness. We are going to make 01:04:37.440 --> 01:04:39.960 eggs cheaper. We are going to build fucking 10 01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:42.619 ,000 affordable housing units so that the price 01:04:42.619 --> 01:04:45.679 of your rent can go way down. There has to be 01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:48.119 something disruptive instead of, hey, let's just 01:04:48.119 --> 01:04:50.519 go back to normal. Let's not ruffle any feathers. 01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:53.500 I see what you're saying. I reject the idea, 01:04:53.659 --> 01:04:58.199 though, that progress can't be had just because 01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:02.070 people have been corrupt. abused money before. 01:05:02.190 --> 01:05:04.630 I feel like you could farm it off to private 01:05:04.630 --> 01:05:07.210 corporations the same way we did with Halliburton 01:05:07.210 --> 01:05:09.730 during the Iraq war. What did they do with Halliburton? 01:05:09.769 --> 01:05:12.289 Halliburton got no bid contracts to rebuild Iraq. 01:05:12.570 --> 01:05:15.210 And they did it. They actually built all the 01:05:15.210 --> 01:05:17.130 power plants they didn't need. There's like a 01:05:17.130 --> 01:05:19.190 lot of waste and weird shit that went on over 01:05:19.190 --> 01:05:20.869 there. You could do that with the inner cities. 01:05:21.050 --> 01:05:22.969 You could have contracts. You're saying Halliburton 01:05:22.969 --> 01:05:26.199 did a good job? No. I'm just saying they actually 01:05:26.199 --> 01:05:28.579 did get paid to rebuild cities so you can get 01:05:28.579 --> 01:05:31.699 a private sector that would actually make money. 01:05:31.780 --> 01:05:33.400 It would become an industry. Instead of it being 01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:35.400 bureaucracy. So you see what I'm saying? Instead 01:05:35.400 --> 01:05:37.360 of it being something where it's like California, 01:05:37.639 --> 01:05:39.679 they're taking the homelessness, where nothing 01:05:39.679 --> 01:05:41.980 gets done but money keeps pumping into it. No, 01:05:42.079 --> 01:05:44.519 the only way you get paid is based on results. 01:05:44.980 --> 01:05:47.860 So you have a contract with incentives based 01:05:47.860 --> 01:05:50.800 on results. Yes, and that is the problem. You 01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:53.059 have to lower crime. You have to lower crime. 01:05:53.219 --> 01:05:56.639 You have to lower juvenile detention rates. You 01:05:56.639 --> 01:05:59.639 have to improve education scores. You have to 01:05:59.639 --> 01:06:03.699 make food, healthy food, far more accessible. 01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:08.039 It would be very easy to open up enormous food 01:06:08.039 --> 01:06:11.719 pantries in the inner city and finance it in 01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:13.659 comparison to the amount of money we spend on 01:06:13.659 --> 01:06:16.179 other countries doing transgender monkey studies 01:06:16.179 --> 01:06:19.000 or whatever the fuck we do. The stuff they do 01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:21.550 is nuts, like $20 million to Sesame Street. in 01:06:21.550 --> 01:06:25.389 Iraq. It's bananas. So if you've got enough money 01:06:25.389 --> 01:06:28.030 for that, you've got enough money to set up food 01:06:28.030 --> 01:06:30.510 banks in every fucking city where poor people 01:06:30.510 --> 01:06:33.269 can get nutritious food. Just sign on, have a 01:06:33.269 --> 01:06:34.730 driver's license, whatever the fuck you need 01:06:34.730 --> 01:06:36.010 to get your food. And what are the downstream 01:06:36.010 --> 01:06:38.650 effects of that? You have way less health issues, 01:06:38.730 --> 01:06:41.269 which takes down the cost of health care. Also, 01:06:41.269 --> 01:06:43.730 people aren't desperate because you can actually 01:06:43.730 --> 01:06:46.710 always eat, which is a real problem with some 01:06:46.710 --> 01:06:48.739 people in this country, right? What's this about, 01:06:48.820 --> 01:06:50.139 Jamie? What are you pulling this off for? They 01:06:50.139 --> 01:06:52.340 didn't do a very good job, apparently. Oh, well, 01:06:52.400 --> 01:06:55.219 I'm sure they probably... Well, I said they did 01:06:55.219 --> 01:06:57.800 do corruption and there was some waste, right? 01:06:57.880 --> 01:06:59.340 Because I was talking about these power plants 01:06:59.340 --> 01:07:00.860 they built that didn't matter. But the point 01:07:00.860 --> 01:07:04.239 is, it was a business. So you got businesses 01:07:04.239 --> 01:07:07.920 involved and they went in and they got contracts 01:07:07.920 --> 01:07:13.219 to do things. If you got contracts to re -engineer... 01:07:13.939 --> 01:07:17.280 these communities slowly over time. You'd have 01:07:17.280 --> 01:07:19.019 to do it where it didn't shock the community, 01:07:19.199 --> 01:07:22.039 but slowly over time. Unfortunately, you would 01:07:22.039 --> 01:07:24.239 have to ramp up the law enforcement because there's 01:07:24.239 --> 01:07:26.019 going to be resistance. If you're going to go 01:07:26.019 --> 01:07:27.619 to the south side of Chicago and try to clean 01:07:27.619 --> 01:07:30.539 it up, you got gangs in there shooting each other 01:07:30.539 --> 01:07:32.579 every weekend. You got real fucking problems. 01:07:32.960 --> 01:07:35.960 But what's the alternative? Let that keep going 01:07:35.960 --> 01:07:38.059 on forever? No, you can't. So you have to rip 01:07:38.059 --> 01:07:39.639 the Band -Aid off. Have you heard of the guy? 01:07:39.739 --> 01:07:42.760 He's the president, I think, of El Salvador. 01:07:43.519 --> 01:07:46.159 Oh, the guy who made all the camps for those 01:07:46.159 --> 01:07:49.500 people? I'm sure there's tons of criticism, right? 01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:52.280 100%. But I think El Salvador has become the 01:07:52.280 --> 01:07:54.480 safest country in Central and South America. 01:07:54.760 --> 01:07:55.940 Yeah, there's no criminals. They're all in jail. 01:07:56.420 --> 01:07:59.659 And I'm sure there might even be a little North 01:07:59.659 --> 01:08:01.619 Korea shit where it's like, yeah, you're not 01:08:01.619 --> 01:08:03.599 in the gang, but your cousin is, and you hang 01:08:03.599 --> 01:08:05.760 out with him, and now you're in his prison. Sure. 01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:08.260 Of course. But what they've done is completely 01:08:08.260 --> 01:08:10.639 revolutionized the country. And if you ask the 01:08:10.639 --> 01:08:12.420 other people that are not gang -affiliated at 01:08:12.420 --> 01:08:15.579 all, There's this undying support. I think he 01:08:15.579 --> 01:08:18.939 has a 91 % support rating or whatever that is. 01:08:19.140 --> 01:08:21.380 And it's like, these people feel like they got 01:08:21.380 --> 01:08:23.640 their lives back. Now, I'm sure, as I'm saying, 01:08:23.739 --> 01:08:25.279 there's going to be people going like, oh, these 01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:26.880 are civil rights violations. Yeah, yeah. You 01:08:26.880 --> 01:08:28.239 know what else is also a civil rights violation? 01:08:28.399 --> 01:08:31.000 When your city is completely run by a gang and 01:08:31.000 --> 01:08:32.659 you're terrified to let your kid leave the house. 01:08:33.079 --> 01:08:38.579 So there is a version where having more... punitive 01:08:38.579 --> 01:08:40.420 measures for people that are breaking the law 01:08:40.420 --> 01:08:43.739 will increase safety and the prosperity of the 01:08:43.739 --> 01:08:45.840 people in that region. Like in order to get investment 01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:47.600 into the South side of Chicago, you need to make 01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:49.859 it safe first. Starbucks is an opening if it's 01:08:49.859 --> 01:08:53.600 getting broken into every fucking week. So yeah, 01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:56.380 it's, um, yeah, I like that. I like one of the 01:08:56.380 --> 01:08:58.539 first things you would finance is community centers. 01:08:59.020 --> 01:09:02.960 You finance like a real. great community rec 01:09:02.960 --> 01:09:05.899 center where kids, if their mom's working, no 01:09:05.899 --> 01:09:08.439 one's there to take care of them. They got real 01:09:08.439 --> 01:09:10.619 good coaches there. They got people that can 01:09:10.619 --> 01:09:13.180 set them up maybe for potential athletic scholarships. 01:09:13.180 --> 01:09:15.699 They're talented. Maybe you have people that 01:09:15.699 --> 01:09:18.000 teach you how to play music. That's where I went 01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:20.149 when I was a kid. I went to the Carmine Street 01:09:20.149 --> 01:09:21.829 Recreation Center. That's where I played basketball. 01:09:21.989 --> 01:09:24.090 It was this beautiful place, this amazing oasis 01:09:24.090 --> 01:09:26.770 where not only are you getting to meet friends 01:09:26.770 --> 01:09:28.270 and stuff like that, but I'm getting to compete. 01:09:28.529 --> 01:09:30.050 I'm getting to play against guys way better than 01:09:30.050 --> 01:09:34.529 me. Even as I say this right now, I'm like, I 01:09:34.529 --> 01:09:37.989 got to donate money. They created this place 01:09:37.989 --> 01:09:39.470 where there was a lot of kids in those programs. 01:09:39.750 --> 01:09:41.670 They might have ended up doing some fucked up 01:09:41.670 --> 01:09:44.369 shit, man. They had a place where they could 01:09:44.369 --> 01:09:48.199 go. There was a safe haven. Look at us talking 01:09:48.199 --> 01:09:50.079 like some libs on this pot, man. Well, I think 01:09:50.079 --> 01:09:52.239 we are liberal. Of course we are. That's the 01:09:52.239 --> 01:09:55.239 biggest misconception of all of this is that 01:09:55.239 --> 01:09:56.899 we don't want this place to be better, but there 01:09:56.899 --> 01:09:58.699 have to be certain changes that we make. Dude, 01:09:58.699 --> 01:10:01.220 I'm socially about as liberal as it gets. And 01:10:01.220 --> 01:10:04.079 I'm a firm believer in a social safety net, too. 01:10:04.140 --> 01:10:06.180 I'm a firm believer in welfare and food stamps. 01:10:06.420 --> 01:10:11.720 I just think there's a way to address the root 01:10:11.720 --> 01:10:14.500 of the problem, which is people with no hope. 01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:16.939 And the way to do that is you've got to give 01:10:16.939 --> 01:10:18.720 them hope. You have to make it safer for them 01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:20.579 to live where they live. You have to make it 01:10:20.579 --> 01:10:22.340 healthier for them to live where they live. And 01:10:22.340 --> 01:10:24.380 then I don't think it would cost that much to 01:10:24.380 --> 01:10:26.800 provide guidance for a bunch of kids that want 01:10:26.800 --> 01:10:29.760 guidance. And if you have good, solid role models 01:10:29.760 --> 01:10:31.979 that know how to do that kind of stuff, and they 01:10:31.979 --> 01:10:33.979 can all work together and build a program, what 01:10:33.979 --> 01:10:36.819 if those kids wind up being really talented musicians 01:10:36.819 --> 01:10:39.640 or really talented athletes or whatever the fuck 01:10:39.640 --> 01:10:41.199 it is? What's happening at the mothership? Have 01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:43.960 jujitsu classes. Like what's happening there? 01:10:44.199 --> 01:10:46.000 Like I feel like you've created an environment 01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:48.420 where it's like these guys can make enough money 01:10:48.420 --> 01:10:50.399 to survive, which is a very hard thing to do 01:10:50.399 --> 01:10:53.619 as a fledgling comedian, right? And some of these 01:10:53.619 --> 01:10:55.180 guys who are door guys, they're starting to get 01:10:55.180 --> 01:10:57.960 spots around. Even like some of my guys, you 01:10:57.960 --> 01:11:00.180 know, like obviously Derek Poston is like making 01:11:00.180 --> 01:11:02.960 real money, right? And learning how to flourish 01:11:02.960 --> 01:11:05.260 as a comedian instead of working 60 hours at 01:11:05.260 --> 01:11:08.119 a job and then doing comedy when he potentially 01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:11.939 can. Right. You hopefully get to see this artistry 01:11:11.939 --> 01:11:14.319 grow like I've watched Derek explode as a fucking 01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:16.800 comedian like this guy's so fucking funny He's 01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:20.220 he's so lovable. It's he's so love. He's got 01:11:20.220 --> 01:11:22.619 a he's got a don't tell coming out April 16th 01:11:22.619 --> 01:11:24.960 nice He's a and I've watched this fucking amazing 01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:27.159 So everybody go check that out nice, but that's 01:11:27.159 --> 01:11:28.840 the type of environment that I imagine you can 01:11:28.840 --> 01:11:31.439 curate now You're very benevolent right, but 01:11:31.439 --> 01:11:33.020 you would hope that the government can create 01:11:33.020 --> 01:11:36.029 that same level of benevolence without leaking 01:11:36.029 --> 01:11:38.869 too much money yeah it just it has to be done 01:11:38.869 --> 01:11:40.890 for the right reasons the right way with the 01:11:40.890 --> 01:11:42.970 right people and that was what we pulled off 01:11:42.970 --> 01:11:44.489 with the mothership because i was able to get 01:11:44.489 --> 01:11:46.970 everybody from california but also i knew that 01:11:46.970 --> 01:11:48.529 that was the formula because it was kind of like 01:11:48.529 --> 01:11:51.350 the heart and soul of the store it was like the 01:11:51.350 --> 01:11:53.289 people that were the coolest people that were 01:11:53.289 --> 01:11:55.750 running things over there bring them over here 01:11:55.750 --> 01:11:58.600 yeah and it was just The whole thing was so nuts, 01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:00.899 dude. It was like the universe wanted it to happen. 01:12:01.220 --> 01:12:03.840 Every light turned green right when we got to 01:12:03.840 --> 01:12:07.239 it. Every light turned... None of it makes sense 01:12:07.239 --> 01:12:10.560 on paper. If you thought about the idea behind... 01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:13.060 dumping a ton of money in a club and your ultimate 01:12:13.060 --> 01:12:16.180 goal is to break even? Like, who fucking does 01:12:16.180 --> 01:12:19.779 that? And then it also, you have to... But that's 01:12:19.779 --> 01:12:20.960 government. Government shouldn't make money. 01:12:21.119 --> 01:12:23.939 So the ultimate goal should be to break even. 01:12:24.100 --> 01:12:27.000 Well, your ultimate goal shouldn't be everything 01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:29.960 is a money venture. Right. So the club is not 01:12:29.960 --> 01:12:32.819 a money venture. Right. The club is an artistic, 01:12:33.220 --> 01:12:36.800 it's like, I want it to be like a camp. Yeah. 01:12:36.880 --> 01:12:39.380 Like camp for comics. Yeah. Like you go there. 01:12:39.539 --> 01:12:41.199 All your buddies are there. Everybody's having 01:12:41.199 --> 01:12:43.600 a good time. We're all trading. We were all last 01:12:43.600 --> 01:12:45.720 night. Me and Shane Gillis were breaking down. 01:12:45.819 --> 01:12:47.520 Me and Shane Gillis did Bottom of the Barrel 01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:49.399 last night for an hour. Oh, shit. We were on 01:12:49.399 --> 01:12:52.399 stage for an hour. It was the most fun I've ever 01:12:52.399 --> 01:12:55.699 had doing it. We were crying. Good. Like tears 01:12:55.699 --> 01:12:58.720 rolling down my face, crying, laughing. And then 01:12:58.720 --> 01:13:00.380 we're hanging out in the green room. We're breaking 01:13:00.380 --> 01:13:02.699 down this bit. And we're coming up with new lines. 01:13:02.800 --> 01:13:05.479 This is like a laboratory. It's a hangout. Yeah. 01:13:05.640 --> 01:13:08.500 We got fucking Gary Clark Jr.'s playing on the 01:13:08.500 --> 01:13:11.600 stereo. Everybody's vibing. We're all laughing. 01:13:11.680 --> 01:13:13.840 Woody Harrelson's hanging out with us. We're 01:13:13.840 --> 01:13:17.140 all having such a good fucking time, man. It's 01:13:17.140 --> 01:13:18.640 like that's what I wanted to build. I didn't 01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:20.579 want to build a business. It wasn't like, well, 01:13:20.720 --> 01:13:23.760 if I sell drinks for X amount of money and then 01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:26.199 I charge this amount for a ticket and fuck the 01:13:26.199 --> 01:13:28.300 comedians over, I'd do the opposite. I'd pay 01:13:28.300 --> 01:13:29.819 the comedians way more than everybody else pays. 01:13:29.899 --> 01:13:32.380 And look what happens. But that's just to try 01:13:32.380 --> 01:13:35.140 to facilitate this artist colony. I want it to 01:13:35.140 --> 01:13:38.640 be a place where this is like the mothership 01:13:38.640 --> 01:13:40.899 even has a name. Like we came up with the mothership 01:13:40.899 --> 01:13:43.560 because the first one was the asylum. Because 01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:49.500 Mitzi Shore, God bless her, she always used to 01:13:49.500 --> 01:13:51.939 say, oh, the inmates are running the asylum. 01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:54.220 That was her thing whenever she would come to 01:13:54.220 --> 01:13:56.420 the store. She loved it that we were crazy. She 01:13:56.420 --> 01:14:00.750 loved like, you know, Dom Barris. jumping around 01:14:00.750 --> 01:14:03.090 backstage and everybody's laughing and Joey Diaz 01:14:03.090 --> 01:14:05.069 telling some crazy story and then Mitzi would 01:14:05.069 --> 01:14:07.949 pull up. She'd get out of her car, oh, the inmates 01:14:07.949 --> 01:14:13.250 are running the asylum. And I was like, if we're 01:14:13.250 --> 01:14:14.770 going to branch out, we should just call it the 01:14:14.770 --> 01:14:18.229 asylum. You know? I like Mothership. The Mothership 01:14:18.229 --> 01:14:20.109 was better because, first of all, asylum was 01:14:20.109 --> 01:14:21.989 already taken. There's like a couple of different 01:14:21.989 --> 01:14:24.250 asylums, so we couldn't have asylum. And then 01:14:24.250 --> 01:14:27.479 it was like... I'm so fascinated with UFOs. I'm 01:14:27.479 --> 01:14:29.520 so obsessed with that shit anyway. Mothership 01:14:29.520 --> 01:14:33.100 is like the place where we all launch from. So 01:14:33.100 --> 01:14:35.340 when we go all throughout the rest of the country, 01:14:35.500 --> 01:14:38.020 you always come back to the mothership. Yeah, 01:14:38.100 --> 01:14:40.760 there's a, like, creating environments where 01:14:40.760 --> 01:14:44.680 art flourishes is a... So I did kill Tony the 01:14:44.680 --> 01:14:46.600 other day. And it's been a while since I've done 01:14:46.600 --> 01:14:48.619 the whole show. I came out for MSG. That was 01:14:48.619 --> 01:14:50.619 fun. That was incredible. We had such a good 01:14:50.619 --> 01:14:52.279 time. Oh, dude, it was great. Oh, we had such 01:14:52.279 --> 01:14:53.979 a good time. Your stupid jacket. Oh, my God. 01:14:53.979 --> 01:14:55.819 Oh, my God, that jacket. I had to have it. I 01:14:55.819 --> 01:14:58.140 knew I wanted to wear a fur jacket. I was like, 01:14:58.239 --> 01:15:00.600 I told Tony, I'm like, I'm getting a fur coat. 01:15:00.760 --> 01:15:03.399 I have to get a fur coat. I think I talked to 01:15:03.399 --> 01:15:04.500 you the day before. You're like, are you getting 01:15:04.500 --> 01:15:08.390 a fur coat? I got it the day of the show. Yeah, 01:15:08.390 --> 01:15:10.090 you texted me something. You're like, yeah, they're 01:15:10.090 --> 01:15:12.529 aware of this. Yeah, my boy Phil found this dude 01:15:12.529 --> 01:15:15.050 who's a private shopper, and he found the spot 01:15:15.050 --> 01:15:16.930 to go. He's like one of them celebrity shopper 01:15:16.930 --> 01:15:20.010 dudes, and he found me the spot. And I was on 01:15:20.010 --> 01:15:23.850 it, and I'm watching in the interviews. The interviews 01:15:23.850 --> 01:15:25.470 are really fun. A lot of these comics are really 01:15:25.470 --> 01:15:26.869 green, and they're going in there and trying 01:15:26.869 --> 01:15:28.670 to find something, but the interview portion. 01:15:29.640 --> 01:15:30.899 and I'm probably saying something that everybody 01:15:30.899 --> 01:15:32.600 already knows, but when I watch Kill Turn, I'm 01:15:32.600 --> 01:15:34.199 watching it in clip form, right? So I'm seeing 01:15:34.199 --> 01:15:37.880 these 60 -second versions. Right. But what I 01:15:37.880 --> 01:15:39.979 thought was really interesting about the interviews 01:15:39.979 --> 01:15:43.399 is there's a real generosity with Tony, right? 01:15:43.479 --> 01:15:45.859 I don't know if even the comics realize this. 01:15:46.020 --> 01:15:48.079 He's trying to get you to write your first good 01:15:48.079 --> 01:15:51.699 joke. He's asking you questions where you don't 01:15:51.699 --> 01:15:54.560 have to be funny, but they are funny because 01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:57.380 you're just speaking truthfully. Right. And it 01:15:57.380 --> 01:16:00.109 is generous. It's easy to just, like, you could 01:16:00.109 --> 01:16:02.189 bang on every single one of the people that go 01:16:02.189 --> 01:16:04.430 up there. Right. But that's not exactly what's 01:16:04.430 --> 01:16:05.909 happening. Sometimes, of course, people are going 01:16:05.909 --> 01:16:07.609 to get jokes. But there's this moment where, 01:16:07.670 --> 01:16:10.369 like, you get to watch some of these guys, like, 01:16:10.449 --> 01:16:12.369 hopefully they're realizing, they're like, oh, 01:16:12.430 --> 01:16:14.329 I am, oh, that is a kind of funny thing about 01:16:14.329 --> 01:16:17.170 me. And that's, like, the first kernel of, like, 01:16:17.170 --> 01:16:19.689 where they'll write their first good joke. Yeah. 01:16:19.729 --> 01:16:22.489 And it's a really cool thing to witness. And, 01:16:22.550 --> 01:16:24.510 yeah, there's a couple guys that went up and, 01:16:24.529 --> 01:16:26.149 like, there's one guy, like, his joke sucked, 01:16:26.229 --> 01:16:29.039 but he had something. Like, I just kept watching 01:16:29.039 --> 01:16:31.300 him. Yeah. And I was like, you're going to be 01:16:31.300 --> 01:16:33.460 good. Like, I hope you keep doing this because 01:16:33.460 --> 01:16:35.640 you're going to be good. And, like, we started 01:16:35.640 --> 01:16:37.159 asking him questions. And there's this Mexican 01:16:37.159 --> 01:16:38.859 guy from San Antonio. And he works at, like, 01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:41.119 Office Depot. And there was something funny about, 01:16:41.159 --> 01:16:43.060 like, hold on. So, like, there was, like, something 01:16:43.060 --> 01:16:44.600 about, like, you know, he's selling, like, papers. 01:16:44.739 --> 01:16:45.659 And I was like, hold on. So, there's, like, a 01:16:45.659 --> 01:16:47.439 Mexican guy. Like, people are asking for paper. 01:16:47.520 --> 01:16:49.199 Like, there's just, like, there's all these, 01:16:49.279 --> 01:16:54.420 like. Like, it seems like a setup. You know what 01:16:54.420 --> 01:16:57.800 I mean? So, but. It was just really cool to see 01:16:57.800 --> 01:16:59.739 it happen, and it reminded me of these early 01:16:59.739 --> 01:17:02.039 stages of comedy where you're putting together 01:17:02.039 --> 01:17:04.520 these things that you think are funny, and funny 01:17:04.520 --> 01:17:08.720 is kind of already existing in you. Yeah, it 01:17:08.720 --> 01:17:11.000 was a cool aspect of the show that I'm sure the 01:17:11.000 --> 01:17:12.619 people that watch it, and this is a massively 01:17:12.619 --> 01:17:14.819 successful show, so they're familiar. But maybe 01:17:14.819 --> 01:17:17.840 the people that don't watch it don't know about 01:17:17.840 --> 01:17:19.380 the show. They just think Tony's just roasting 01:17:19.380 --> 01:17:23.399 people. And it's a very generous thing to do. 01:17:23.739 --> 01:17:28.850 Yeah, it is. Loves comedy. He loves comedy to 01:17:28.850 --> 01:17:30.590 the point where he's always writing lines for 01:17:30.590 --> 01:17:33.229 people backstage. He's always giving people tags. 01:17:33.930 --> 01:17:36.489 He's always talking about, did you do that bit? 01:17:36.729 --> 01:17:39.909 Oh, I love that bit. He's super supportive with 01:17:39.909 --> 01:17:43.729 comedy, and he loves when the guys who do his 01:17:43.729 --> 01:17:45.890 show, like William Montgomery. When they start 01:17:45.890 --> 01:17:47.670 to flourish. They start killing it on the road. 01:17:47.750 --> 01:17:51.250 He loves that. He's actually put together a tour 01:17:51.250 --> 01:17:53.289 now, The Killers of Kill Tony. I've seen it, 01:17:53.329 --> 01:17:55.609 and they're doing fucking theaters. Yeah, and 01:17:55.609 --> 01:17:58.159 they're killing it. are good man Ari Matty is 01:17:58.159 --> 01:17:59.880 fucking good man I was talking to him yesterday 01:17:59.880 --> 01:18:03.439 man he's fucking smart he's funny he's super 01:18:03.439 --> 01:18:05.640 ambitious he writes he wants to be an American 01:18:05.640 --> 01:18:08.159 so bad he's a fun hang he's got great perspective 01:18:08.159 --> 01:18:11.619 on stuff also like yeah he had you know he's 01:18:11.619 --> 01:18:14.260 an MMA fighter I remember seeing fought three 01:18:14.260 --> 01:18:17.449 times wow wow wow yeah he's a big guy too Yeah. 01:18:17.609 --> 01:18:19.770 Yeah. But, like, yeah, I remember, like, he even 01:18:19.770 --> 01:18:21.649 had a joke yesterday. I mean, whatever, it will 01:18:21.649 --> 01:18:23.529 come out. But, like, it was funny. Like, he tapped 01:18:23.529 --> 01:18:25.869 into something at the end of the bit that he 01:18:25.869 --> 01:18:27.770 did when he does the minute. And then in the 01:18:27.770 --> 01:18:33.770 interview, it really became the thing. Ah, right, 01:18:33.829 --> 01:18:35.770 right, right. Because what you get to watch is, 01:18:35.789 --> 01:18:37.930 like, he's, like, he's a veteran comic. Like, 01:18:37.989 --> 01:18:39.630 he's probably been doing it 10 or 12 years, right? 01:18:39.689 --> 01:18:41.970 Right. So, like, you get into real comedian mode 01:18:41.970 --> 01:18:45.890 around 10, right? Yeah. You got to witness live 01:18:45.890 --> 01:18:49.029 what we do backstage Which is like I like that 01:18:49.029 --> 01:18:51.989 idea Why did you do this and he said a line at 01:18:51.989 --> 01:18:53.970 the end of when we're just doing the interview? 01:18:54.390 --> 01:18:57.510 Did that I think is gonna be what this joke builds 01:18:57.510 --> 01:18:59.130 out? It's I don't want to give it away Watch 01:18:59.130 --> 01:19:02.329 it but to me like that part of the process is 01:19:02.329 --> 01:19:04.670 so fun Oh, yeah, and it is I don't know if people 01:19:04.670 --> 01:19:07.130 know this about us like it is really fun to like 01:19:07.130 --> 01:19:10.460 work on someone else's bit Like there's almost 01:19:10.460 --> 01:19:12.520 like more freedom because you're less attached 01:19:12.520 --> 01:19:15.300 to it. You know, like if you have something and 01:19:15.300 --> 01:19:17.180 you're like telling me the idea, like I'm not, 01:19:17.260 --> 01:19:19.199 you're attached like a direction for it. And 01:19:19.199 --> 01:19:21.020 I'm just coming from all these other places. 01:19:21.100 --> 01:19:22.600 And what if my tag bombs, it doesn't matter. 01:19:22.840 --> 01:19:24.779 You're the one going to do it. But it is this 01:19:24.779 --> 01:19:27.840 exciting thing when you have a colonel. And yeah, 01:19:27.880 --> 01:19:29.720 this moment happened with it. And you can even 01:19:29.720 --> 01:19:32.479 see him go, oh shit, that's. Yeah, that's the 01:19:32.479 --> 01:19:35.340 next level of it. Anyway. Yeah, they emerge, 01:19:35.640 --> 01:19:38.100 right? Yeah. The new chapters in your bits, your 01:19:38.100 --> 01:19:40.680 new paragraphs, they emerge. It's the best. And 01:19:40.680 --> 01:19:43.720 for me, it's like, I need to talk to get it out. 01:19:44.279 --> 01:19:46.520 I'm not like a sit at home and like I write the 01:19:46.520 --> 01:19:49.359 ideas. Like I need to, I need to be like, yo, 01:19:49.399 --> 01:19:51.500 I got this idea and what do you think about this? 01:19:51.560 --> 01:19:53.560 And then you have to like give me pushback on 01:19:53.560 --> 01:19:56.579 it. And then confronting that pushback is like. 01:19:57.450 --> 01:19:59.770 where the bit develops for me. Right, right, 01:19:59.850 --> 01:20:01.869 right. That's the beauty of the audience not 01:20:01.869 --> 01:20:03.890 laughing. Well, that's why you like New York 01:20:03.890 --> 01:20:05.670 City. When you moved to Miami, you were like, 01:20:05.689 --> 01:20:07.829 it's too nice down here. No, it was like life 01:20:07.829 --> 01:20:10.010 was beautiful. Everybody was caring about family 01:20:10.010 --> 01:20:11.609 and everything, and it was just so comfortable, 01:20:11.710 --> 01:20:13.449 and I was like, I didn't have any resistance. 01:20:14.010 --> 01:20:17.109 That's so funny. I'm used to that chaos. I need 01:20:17.109 --> 01:20:19.710 the opposite. What do you mean? Your whole life 01:20:19.710 --> 01:20:21.930 is resistance. You're in the sauna, the ice. 01:20:22.010 --> 01:20:25.420 I don't like resistance with people. I don't 01:20:25.420 --> 01:20:27.100 want to deal with people's bullshit. I got my 01:20:27.100 --> 01:20:28.420 own bullshit to deal with. That's my ice bath. 01:20:28.699 --> 01:20:30.880 Yeah, there it is. You just want to get out there 01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:34.340 and grind it out. I do 30 minutes on the six 01:20:34.340 --> 01:20:37.119 train. Right. Bro, we better have a bulletproof 01:20:37.119 --> 01:20:40.319 vest. Yeah. Anyway, to what you were saying about 01:20:40.319 --> 01:20:43.779 like hope, it is interesting and I see like. 01:20:44.619 --> 01:20:47.600 I see that for comics, especially here. There's 01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:50.380 this idea of like getting on the show and seeing 01:20:50.380 --> 01:20:53.140 a pathway to success. It's a real pathway. It's 01:20:53.140 --> 01:20:55.260 a real pathway to a career. And you've seen many, 01:20:55.340 --> 01:20:57.779 many, many people go through it. Like Cam Patterson. 01:20:57.779 --> 01:20:59.859 Yeah. David Lucas. These guys all have careers 01:20:59.859 --> 01:21:03.420 now. Yeah. He had a funny bit too. Cam's funny. 01:21:03.479 --> 01:21:05.899 Yeah. He's funny. I think there's a little bit 01:21:05.899 --> 01:21:08.199 of a hindrance in that one minute a week because 01:21:08.199 --> 01:21:10.720 it's like you spend so much time working on that 01:21:10.720 --> 01:21:12.439 one minute that maybe you don't spend enough 01:21:12.439 --> 01:21:14.659 time tightening up. So that's what. Your hour, 01:21:14.720 --> 01:21:16.640 whatever you have when you're on the road. I 01:21:16.640 --> 01:21:19.659 was like, you give this minute out, and it goes 01:21:19.659 --> 01:21:23.760 out to the whole comedy world. And that's what 01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:25.979 I was asking Ari. I was like, can you still do 01:21:25.979 --> 01:21:28.899 those bits? Because some of these aren't finished. 01:21:29.159 --> 01:21:31.300 They're just the fucking beginning of it. Right, 01:21:31.359 --> 01:21:34.359 right. Don't let those go. Right, build on them. 01:21:34.399 --> 01:21:36.079 As long as you're building on them, as long as 01:21:36.079 --> 01:21:37.880 you've got more to it and it's better now, I 01:21:37.880 --> 01:21:40.899 think people will want it. I think also there's 01:21:40.899 --> 01:21:42.420 this understanding that those guys are on the 01:21:42.420 --> 01:21:44.340 come up and they're putting it all together. 01:21:45.100 --> 01:21:47.699 And I think there's a certain amount of times 01:21:47.699 --> 01:21:49.579 you do it where you got to eventually leave. 01:21:49.659 --> 01:21:51.300 I say that, but then there's William Montgomery, 01:21:51.520 --> 01:21:53.979 who does it every fucking week. And William's 01:21:53.979 --> 01:21:56.779 got this style that even if his jokes suck. It's 01:21:56.779 --> 01:21:58.880 funny because they suck. Because he gets angry. 01:21:58.979 --> 01:22:01.399 He gets angry at himself. He gets angry at the 01:22:01.399 --> 01:22:03.920 crowd. And then it gets funny. Bro, have you 01:22:03.920 --> 01:22:06.180 been seeing Brian Holtzman lately? No, no, no. 01:22:06.300 --> 01:22:09.220 Oh, my God. He's the sweetest guy, by the way. 01:22:09.220 --> 01:22:10.560 He's the best guy. Shout out Brian, man. He is 01:22:10.560 --> 01:22:13.359 so different than his onstage monster, the onstage 01:22:13.359 --> 01:22:15.399 Brian Holtzman. a name in a different thing. 01:22:16.060 --> 01:22:17.760 There's a different human that comes out when 01:22:17.760 --> 01:22:20.140 he's on stage. You would think that he's a complete 01:22:20.140 --> 01:22:22.880 psychopath in real life. And he's just the kindest, 01:22:22.880 --> 01:22:25.939 sweetest guy. He's wonderful. I love him to death. 01:22:26.060 --> 01:22:29.520 He's all hugs and joy and smiles and he's always 01:22:29.520 --> 01:22:32.340 helping people to a detriment. One of the things 01:22:32.340 --> 01:22:34.739 about his show is we've had to stop some of the 01:22:34.739 --> 01:22:37.659 people that he allows open for him because it's 01:22:37.659 --> 01:22:39.439 people that haven't done comedy in forever and 01:22:39.439 --> 01:22:42.039 still know him. You think I could do a set? Sure! 01:22:42.079 --> 01:22:45.300 Come on by! And they eat dick for 10 minutes 01:22:45.300 --> 01:22:48.239 and the crowd gets tortured. So Adam had to put 01:22:48.239 --> 01:22:52.319 the brakes on that. But he himself is on fire. 01:22:53.039 --> 01:22:56.779 Shane and I were crying laughing watching his 01:22:56.779 --> 01:23:00.619 set last night. I mean crying laughing. Shane's 01:23:00.619 --> 01:23:04.920 so funny. He had the aux cord last night at Bitsy's. 01:23:05.060 --> 01:23:07.359 And I didn't know who was putting on the music 01:23:07.359 --> 01:23:09.479 because it was just this random collection of 01:23:09.479 --> 01:23:13.079 music. And then this Fetty Wap song comes. on 01:23:13.079 --> 01:23:18.859 right and I want you to be mine again baby and 01:23:18.859 --> 01:23:21.220 I look over at the bar and I just see him kind 01:23:21.220 --> 01:23:25.020 of mouthing it I want you to be mine this motherfucker 01:23:25.020 --> 01:23:29.489 got the aux That's hilarious. He was locked in, 01:23:29.550 --> 01:23:32.369 bro. Yeah, we all have good Green Room soundtracks. 01:23:32.369 --> 01:23:35.069 Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's a big thing. I don't think 01:23:35.069 --> 01:23:37.710 anybody would guess your Green Room music. Like, 01:23:37.710 --> 01:23:39.949 if they walked into your Green Room and they 01:23:39.949 --> 01:23:42.189 heard the music playing, there's nobody that 01:23:42.189 --> 01:23:44.890 would go, oh, yeah, Joe picked this song. Maybe. 01:23:45.069 --> 01:23:48.329 It might be one or two songs that pop up. 90s, 01:23:48.329 --> 01:23:53.329 like, deep cut rap. Yeah. Like, deep, like, KRS 01:23:53.329 --> 01:23:55.569 -One or something. Right, right, right. Coogee 01:23:55.569 --> 01:23:58.449 rap in the brand new heavies. Yeah. I remember 01:23:58.449 --> 01:23:59.829 the first time I came down here and it was like 01:23:59.829 --> 01:24:01.850 blasting. And I was like, yo, who the fuck? I'm 01:24:01.850 --> 01:24:03.329 looking around like nobody's old enough to even 01:24:03.329 --> 01:24:06.229 know Cool G rap in this green room. And I just 01:24:06.229 --> 01:24:09.189 see you like popping. Getting ready to fucking 01:24:09.189 --> 01:24:13.970 go on. Yeah, man. Death Threat with Brand New 01:24:13.970 --> 01:24:16.710 Heavy is my favorite before I go on stage song. 01:24:17.530 --> 01:24:20.470 That's interesting. I don't know. Oh, man. You 01:24:20.470 --> 01:24:22.590 don't know that song? No, I don't think so. Oh, 01:24:22.590 --> 01:24:24.449 my God. So the brand new heavies. And I found 01:24:24.449 --> 01:24:26.489 out about this song. I teared up when I was talking 01:24:26.489 --> 01:24:28.130 about Mitzi earlier. Oh, wow. I'm still a little 01:24:28.130 --> 01:24:30.930 teary. What were you thinking? Oh, just her. 01:24:31.729 --> 01:24:35.970 What was it? Just her saying, you know, all the 01:24:35.970 --> 01:24:38.229 inmates running the asylum. It just makes me 01:24:38.229 --> 01:24:43.029 cry. Why? Because that lady was, like, all the 01:24:43.029 --> 01:24:47.319 shit that I do at the club. Like I learned how 01:24:47.319 --> 01:24:50.420 to do it from her. Yeah, like you learn how to 01:24:50.420 --> 01:24:52.680 like facilitate comedy like to help comedy grow 01:24:52.680 --> 01:24:55.319 I learned it all from her. Yeah, all of it. It's 01:24:55.319 --> 01:24:57.800 kind of cool how people exist through us You 01:24:57.800 --> 01:25:00.600 know like obviously she's passed but that's why 01:25:00.600 --> 01:25:03.239 the bars name Mitzi Yeah, but the effects live 01:25:03.239 --> 01:25:05.060 on I wouldn't name the whole club Mitzi's if 01:25:05.060 --> 01:25:09.500 I didn't want to get sued by the family But no 01:25:09.500 --> 01:25:11.520 they let me actually use the name for the bar. 01:25:11.659 --> 01:25:15.680 Yeah, but And we have a picture of Mitzi in the 01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:17.579 bar, too. What was your guy's relationship like? 01:25:18.520 --> 01:25:21.560 Well, I mean, she was still lucid when I met 01:25:21.560 --> 01:25:24.859 her. I met her in 94, and she was super supportive. 01:25:26.500 --> 01:25:32.199 She just knew what to do, man. She knew how to 01:25:32.199 --> 01:25:34.640 set you up. And if she liked you, she would put 01:25:34.640 --> 01:25:37.520 you on after murderers. Yeah. I had to follow 01:25:37.520 --> 01:25:41.460 Martin Lawrence in the main room for like fucking 01:25:41.460 --> 01:25:44.220 weeks and weeks at a time. If Martin Lawrence 01:25:44.220 --> 01:25:46.199 was going to headline, I was going to go on after 01:25:46.199 --> 01:25:50.979 him. What is the year? 94, 95. Okay, so. You 01:25:50.979 --> 01:25:53.180 got to understand, Martin Lawrence, people forgot 01:25:53.180 --> 01:25:55.399 Martin Lawrence. Let me tell you right now, go 01:25:55.399 --> 01:25:58.439 watch You So Crazy. Martin Lawrence. Go watch 01:25:58.439 --> 01:26:00.560 Def Comedy Jam. The greatest host of Def Comedy 01:26:00.560 --> 01:26:04.399 Jam ever. But his performances when it's his 01:26:04.399 --> 01:26:09.279 hour, his timing, his energy. Infectious. Oh, 01:26:09.420 --> 01:26:13.460 he was so good. He was so good. And I used to 01:26:13.460 --> 01:26:16.699 eat shit. going on after him every night. And 01:26:16.699 --> 01:26:19.119 Mitzi, no matter who was there, Dice Clay, Rogan, 01:26:19.119 --> 01:26:20.680 you're on after Dice. It's like, whoever the 01:26:20.680 --> 01:26:23.340 fuck it is, I'm going on after him. She just 01:26:23.340 --> 01:26:25.500 knew how to throw you to the wolves, man. She 01:26:25.500 --> 01:26:27.539 knew how to, like, show you that your act is 01:26:27.539 --> 01:26:31.000 bullshit. There's a couple guys, like, Atel did 01:26:31.000 --> 01:26:33.739 that for me in New York. Like, I would close 01:26:33.739 --> 01:26:36.680 the late show at the Cellar, and Atel would go 01:26:36.680 --> 01:26:39.119 up, and then I would go up after him. And, like, 01:26:39.140 --> 01:26:42.920 that shit will turn you into a man. It'll humble 01:26:42.920 --> 01:26:45.199 you. It'll humble you. You just realize when 01:26:45.199 --> 01:26:47.840 somebody's operating on like every single cylinder 01:26:47.840 --> 01:26:50.460 firing and you get up after it and you're like, 01:26:50.500 --> 01:26:52.239 oh, wow, I'm missing something. He has something 01:26:52.239 --> 01:26:54.140 that I don't have and I need to find that shit. 01:26:54.279 --> 01:26:56.619 When you're going up in like the cushy spot second 01:26:56.619 --> 01:26:58.380 or third and you're killing, you think you're 01:26:58.380 --> 01:26:59.920 the funniest in the world. And then when you 01:26:59.920 --> 01:27:01.640 follow somebody that like levels the room and 01:27:01.640 --> 01:27:04.199 the whole room is kind of unsure if he's just 01:27:04.199 --> 01:27:06.300 like inventing these things in the moment, if 01:27:06.300 --> 01:27:08.220 these are bits, like they just get caught up 01:27:08.220 --> 01:27:11.310 in this like tornado of creativity. And you've 01:27:11.310 --> 01:27:13.609 got to follow it. And that shit, following him, 01:27:13.869 --> 01:27:16.449 following Mike Britt, following Greer, like following 01:27:16.449 --> 01:27:19.750 these guys that are just like masters. Yeah, 01:27:19.829 --> 01:27:22.010 it just turns you into a man. That's why I started 01:27:22.010 --> 01:27:23.670 taking Joey on the road with me because I couldn't 01:27:23.670 --> 01:27:25.989 follow him. Really? Yeah. Yeah, you love hard 01:27:25.989 --> 01:27:29.119 shit. You fucking love making your life difficult. 01:27:29.199 --> 01:27:30.960 It's not even making your life difficult. It's 01:27:30.960 --> 01:27:33.000 realizing you're not as good as you're ever going 01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:34.840 to get at this. You have to get better. How do 01:27:34.840 --> 01:27:36.899 you get better? You have to be challenged. How 01:27:36.899 --> 01:27:38.760 do you get challenged? Know that you're going 01:27:38.760 --> 01:27:41.220 to follow Joey Diaz every night, three nights 01:27:41.220 --> 01:27:43.199 in a row, two shows on Friday, two shows on Saturday. 01:27:43.840 --> 01:27:48.979 I feel like this is something that... There's 01:27:48.979 --> 01:27:50.300 a lot of importance to this. I don't know if 01:27:50.300 --> 01:27:52.739 comedians are doing this all the time, but your 01:27:52.739 --> 01:27:55.159 openers that you take on the road with you, they 01:27:55.159 --> 01:27:57.560 should really be pressing you. They should set 01:27:57.560 --> 01:27:59.779 the tone of the show, and they're going to set 01:27:59.779 --> 01:28:01.880 the expectation of the show. I think sometimes 01:28:01.880 --> 01:28:05.539 people want to save the day. That's weak. That's 01:28:05.539 --> 01:28:07.579 that same bitch -ass feeling like, I hope the 01:28:07.579 --> 01:28:10.420 guy after me bombs. Yeah. bitch ass feeling yeah 01:28:10.420 --> 01:28:13.739 I want the audience to have a great fucking time 01:28:13.739 --> 01:28:16.020 yeah so I want everybody to kill I love when 01:28:16.020 --> 01:28:18.140 I get the message like or like tagged in a post 01:28:18.140 --> 01:28:20.420 on Instagram and it was like all three of them 01:28:20.420 --> 01:28:23.390 were fucking great yes and also like I understand 01:28:23.390 --> 01:28:25.289 what it means probably for them. Cause I've been 01:28:25.289 --> 01:28:26.829 in maybe that situation where you're like, holy 01:28:26.829 --> 01:28:28.989 shit. Like, yeah, they're bringing me up with 01:28:28.989 --> 01:28:31.529 the show. Right. And they're in a tougher spot 01:28:31.529 --> 01:28:33.970 than me. You know, Derek going up hosting, people 01:28:33.970 --> 01:28:36.630 are walking into an arena. Yep. So to kill that 01:28:36.630 --> 01:28:38.310 route, to like command attention while people 01:28:38.310 --> 01:28:41.270 are walking down an aisle. Derek's a perfect 01:28:41.270 --> 01:28:43.069 guy for something like that. Cause he's got so 01:28:43.069 --> 01:28:45.569 much energy and he's so good at fucking around. 01:28:45.729 --> 01:28:48.770 And just creating an energy of fun. And Mark 01:28:48.770 --> 01:28:51.750 too is just fucking like crushing and like seeing 01:28:51.750 --> 01:28:54.710 them. go up there and like really lay in. Yeah. 01:28:54.810 --> 01:28:57.350 Like hearing it before I go up. Yeah. Like that's, 01:28:57.350 --> 01:28:58.789 that's a fun thing. Like I'll be locked in my 01:28:58.789 --> 01:29:00.710 room, but then when I come out like a few minutes 01:29:00.710 --> 01:29:02.810 before and just hearing them light up. Yeah. 01:29:03.050 --> 01:29:05.869 Yeah. You got to take strong guys, man. Yeah. 01:29:05.970 --> 01:29:08.869 And it's, the people have the weird fear of being 01:29:08.869 --> 01:29:12.319 eclipsed. That's the thing. It's fear being eclipsed 01:29:12.319 --> 01:29:14.760 by your opening act. You'll get better. Get better. 01:29:14.880 --> 01:29:16.560 You're good. Just get better. You're headlining. 01:29:16.840 --> 01:29:19.119 You're clearly good at this, and it's going to 01:29:19.119 --> 01:29:21.199 make you better when these guys bust your fucking 01:29:21.199 --> 01:29:22.859 ass sometimes. Yeah, maybe you're not working 01:29:22.859 --> 01:29:25.000 as hard as you should be working. Maybe you're 01:29:25.000 --> 01:29:27.180 not at your best. And nothing will make you work 01:29:27.180 --> 01:29:30.119 hard than being embarrassed. Right. Also, I don't 01:29:30.119 --> 01:29:33.189 know how you operate, but for me. I'm funnier 01:29:33.189 --> 01:29:36.350 if I'm having fun. So if I'm hanging out with 01:29:36.350 --> 01:29:40.250 Ari and Duncan and Joey and we're all doing a 01:29:40.250 --> 01:29:43.090 show together, we are laughing our fucking ass 01:29:43.090 --> 01:29:44.850 off. And that comes out on stage and you're loose 01:29:44.850 --> 01:29:46.649 and you're ready to get goofy. And I'm laughing 01:29:46.649 --> 01:29:48.989 at Joey before I even go on stage. I'm sitting 01:29:48.989 --> 01:29:51.270 there laughing at his act before I get up there. 01:29:51.329 --> 01:29:52.869 So I go up there, I'm already in a great fucking 01:29:52.869 --> 01:29:55.710 mood. And the audience feels like they didn't 01:29:55.710 --> 01:29:59.800 get robbed. You didn't throw some scrub up there 01:29:59.800 --> 01:30:01.899 for 20 minutes just to fill time so you could 01:30:01.899 --> 01:30:03.800 look like a superhero. Yeah, it's like they're 01:30:03.800 --> 01:30:06.239 paying money, man. I keep thinking about that. 01:30:06.560 --> 01:30:08.439 All these people that come out to a show, it's 01:30:08.439 --> 01:30:11.340 not just the ticket price. Right. It's the babysitter. 01:30:11.479 --> 01:30:13.619 It's everything. It's the Uber. It's the dinner. 01:30:13.760 --> 01:30:15.840 This is an expensive fucking night for them. 01:30:15.939 --> 01:30:17.239 And they're looking forward to it. You might 01:30:17.239 --> 01:30:19.539 only get one date night a week, especially if 01:30:19.539 --> 01:30:24.300 you have family. Bro, I was in not Seattle. What's 01:30:24.300 --> 01:30:26.960 the other one? In Washington. It's not Tacoma. 01:30:27.260 --> 01:30:29.659 Something more inland. I forget if there's a 01:30:29.659 --> 01:30:33.359 comedy club out there. Spokane? Spokane. This 01:30:33.359 --> 01:30:35.960 was years ago, and I did a show, and like a couple 01:30:35.960 --> 01:30:38.279 came up afterwards, and they were like, this 01:30:38.279 --> 01:30:41.159 is our first night out in eight years. Whoa. 01:30:41.720 --> 01:30:45.739 And I think about that every single time before 01:30:45.739 --> 01:30:48.039 I go on stage. That's a good thing to think about. 01:30:48.460 --> 01:30:50.800 That's a good thing to think about. Yeah. Like 01:30:50.800 --> 01:30:52.960 those people that are like really, but you don't 01:30:52.960 --> 01:30:56.039 take things for granted anyway. Some people get 01:30:56.039 --> 01:30:58.479 a little sloppy. You get a little loose and you 01:30:58.479 --> 01:31:01.699 take things for granted. No, man. We were talking 01:31:01.699 --> 01:31:03.560 about that on stage or in the green room the 01:31:03.560 --> 01:31:05.520 other night. Woody was backstage like, you guys 01:31:05.520 --> 01:31:07.000 get nervous? I'm like, I get nervous for every 01:31:07.000 --> 01:31:09.220 show. If I don't get nervous, I don't do as good. 01:31:09.920 --> 01:31:12.399 I get nervous. I get nervous for everything important. 01:31:12.739 --> 01:31:14.979 Yeah. And every show's important. Yeah. Like, 01:31:15.020 --> 01:31:16.640 it's not important, like, my life depends on 01:31:16.640 --> 01:31:18.760 it, but it's important to me. It's important 01:31:18.760 --> 01:31:20.899 to the audience. Like, I want to do it right. 01:31:21.079 --> 01:31:23.199 So I want to figure out what I'm working on. 01:31:23.359 --> 01:31:25.640 I want to sit up. I'm like, I got to be loose 01:31:25.640 --> 01:31:27.659 with this because this thing's still in development. 01:31:27.840 --> 01:31:29.460 So let's fuck around with that a little bit, 01:31:29.500 --> 01:31:31.079 but we're going to bring it back with this. And 01:31:31.079 --> 01:31:32.979 I'm going over my phone. I'm sitting back there 01:31:32.979 --> 01:31:34.420 before I go up there. I'm ready. Yeah, you can. 01:31:34.560 --> 01:31:36.640 If you don't do that, I don't think you achieve 01:31:36.640 --> 01:31:39.699 what you're trying to achieve. Yeah, I feel like 01:31:39.699 --> 01:31:41.930 sometimes. People, like, I don't know if they 01:31:41.930 --> 01:31:43.810 pretend to not care or maybe, like, they think 01:31:43.810 --> 01:31:45.689 not caring is cool. Yeah, that's what it is. 01:31:46.130 --> 01:31:48.909 Caring is cool. Like, I really care and I work 01:31:48.909 --> 01:31:51.449 really hard and I think that you should work 01:31:51.449 --> 01:31:53.270 really hard. I want to make really great stuff 01:31:53.270 --> 01:31:54.989 I'm proud of and I don't want to just be like, 01:31:55.090 --> 01:31:57.090 oh, it's fucking gay to care. It's like, no, 01:31:57.109 --> 01:31:59.250 it's not gay to care. It's not gay to, like, 01:31:59.270 --> 01:32:00.970 have people come out and spend a lot of money 01:32:00.970 --> 01:32:02.970 and then you just fucking flop on stage and don't 01:32:02.970 --> 01:32:05.869 give a fuck. Right. It's cool to, like, try to 01:32:05.869 --> 01:32:08.699 give them the best possible show. Yeah. That's 01:32:08.699 --> 01:32:11.840 cool. That's cool. It's just a thing because 01:32:11.840 --> 01:32:14.020 you do care, so you try to pretend you don't 01:32:14.020 --> 01:32:16.100 because the cooler people don't care. The cooler 01:32:16.100 --> 01:32:18.600 people just bomb. I remember I watched Bill Hicks 01:32:18.600 --> 01:32:21.800 bomb once, and I was so goddamn impressed. I 01:32:21.800 --> 01:32:24.500 was so impressed. First of all, he was very funny, 01:32:24.600 --> 01:32:27.180 but the stuff that he was talking about was so 01:32:27.180 --> 01:32:29.239 out there. He went on. There was this comedian, 01:32:29.479 --> 01:32:33.710 very nice guy. Who went on before Bill Hicks? 01:32:33.729 --> 01:32:38.689 Yeah His thing was comic on a Harley. That was 01:32:38.689 --> 01:32:41.909 his name like his thing Larry something comic 01:32:41.909 --> 01:32:44.770 on a Harley nice guy funny guy Yeah, but he did 01:32:44.770 --> 01:32:47.010 like a lot of stuff about like Bugs Bunny smoking 01:32:47.010 --> 01:32:49.670 weed like real simple stuff like but it was like 01:32:49.670 --> 01:32:52.489 made people laugh cops and Donuts like like cliche 01:32:52.489 --> 01:32:56.090 shit, but good like and killed and like just 01:32:56.090 --> 01:32:58.149 good enough for this blue -collar crowd at Nick's 01:32:58.149 --> 01:33:01.000 comedy stop. Yeah And then Bill Hicks goes on 01:33:01.000 --> 01:33:04.920 stage, and he's smoking a cigarette, and he's 01:33:04.920 --> 01:33:10.739 talking about, I came here to fill you up with 01:33:10.739 --> 01:33:13.479 ideas you couldn't possibly imagine on your own. 01:33:17.319 --> 01:33:20.880 How did the Boston crowd take that? Oh, they 01:33:20.880 --> 01:33:23.699 didn't take it good at all. He didn't just bomb. 01:33:23.840 --> 01:33:26.260 He cleared the room. And he was doing this bit 01:33:26.260 --> 01:33:32.189 where Satan... has sex with John Davidson, who 01:33:32.189 --> 01:33:36.270 is the host of That's Incredible. Satan is fucking 01:33:36.270 --> 01:33:41.529 John Davidson and then impregnates him and then 01:33:41.529 --> 01:33:44.189 he shits out. I forget who he shits out. Different 01:33:44.189 --> 01:33:47.689 people at different times. But he's sitting on 01:33:47.689 --> 01:33:49.630 a toilet on stage, pretending he's sitting on 01:33:49.630 --> 01:33:53.550 a toilet, grunting. And then he looks up in the 01:33:53.550 --> 01:33:56.460 middle. People are getting up in droves. This 01:33:56.460 --> 01:34:00.100 generally clears a room. It gets right back to 01:34:00.100 --> 01:34:04.100 it. But, I mean, never lost his timing. Right. 01:34:04.140 --> 01:34:06.699 Never lost his composure. And it wasn't that 01:34:06.699 --> 01:34:09.180 it wasn't funny. It was me and Fitzsimmons were 01:34:09.180 --> 01:34:11.079 in the back of the room. Me and Fitzsimmons were. 01:34:11.079 --> 01:34:13.399 You knew Greg from back in Boston? Greg and I 01:34:13.399 --> 01:34:15.479 started a week apart from each other. Get out 01:34:15.479 --> 01:34:16.680 of here. We've been friends since we were like, 01:34:16.720 --> 01:34:20.560 I was 21. I think he was 22 or 23. Yeah. Yeah, 01:34:20.579 --> 01:34:22.220 we've been friends from the very, very beginning. 01:34:22.359 --> 01:34:26.930 Wow. So Greg and I were both open micers at the 01:34:26.930 --> 01:34:29.270 time and we just knew that Hicks was coming We 01:34:29.270 --> 01:34:31.010 wanted to watch and we sat in the back of the 01:34:31.010 --> 01:34:34.909 room. We were fucking crying Crying laughing 01:34:34.909 --> 01:34:39.189 so there was like 50 people left 10 comics 40 01:34:39.189 --> 01:34:41.069 savages They just thought this guy was genius. 01:34:41.210 --> 01:34:44.010 Yeah, and then the other 200 plus people they 01:34:44.010 --> 01:34:47.909 all left 200 is crazy to leave bro. It was a 01:34:47.909 --> 01:34:51.350 it was a bloodbath like half the crowd More than 01:34:51.350 --> 01:34:53.689 half the crowd left. Yeah. No, it was like three 01:34:53.689 --> 01:34:56.130 quarters of the crowd. That's a large percentage. 01:34:56.170 --> 01:34:58.289 It was a large percentage. It wasn't much left. 01:34:58.369 --> 01:35:00.529 But Fitzsimmons and I fondly talk about that 01:35:00.529 --> 01:35:03.050 day. Like he never lost his cool. He almost like 01:35:03.050 --> 01:35:07.310 he I don't know when he knew he had pancreatic 01:35:07.310 --> 01:35:09.569 cancer because he died a few years later. But 01:35:09.569 --> 01:35:14.010 he kind of seemed like a guy that whatever the 01:35:14.010 --> 01:35:18.420 fear of bombing and whatever. This thing of failure, 01:35:18.479 --> 01:35:21.520 that wasn't on his mind. It didn't bother him. 01:35:21.600 --> 01:35:23.859 When you have limited time, that's not... I wonder 01:35:23.859 --> 01:35:26.100 if that's what it was. I don't know if he knew 01:35:26.100 --> 01:35:31.020 already, but he was so calm up there. Yeah. You 01:35:31.020 --> 01:35:34.899 know? But funny. very funny but just he changed 01:35:34.899 --> 01:35:37.399 the way people wanted to do comedy because everybody 01:35:37.399 --> 01:35:39.960 after that wanted to be profound yes nobody wanted 01:35:39.960 --> 01:35:41.859 to be profound before that yeah they just want 01:35:41.859 --> 01:35:43.800 to get big laughs yeah then all sudden everybody 01:35:43.800 --> 01:35:46.840 wanted to be profound yeah you know it was interesting 01:35:46.840 --> 01:35:50.279 like he became like this poet yeah you know you 01:35:50.279 --> 01:35:52.819 see trends like that pop up oh yeah stylistically 01:35:52.819 --> 01:35:55.300 people are so influential that like it changes 01:35:55.300 --> 01:35:58.520 the way people do their comedy and it's tricky 01:35:58.520 --> 01:36:02.250 because like You can only be great at the thing 01:36:02.250 --> 01:36:04.869 you do. That's how I feel, at least, about it. 01:36:04.890 --> 01:36:08.189 If you are profound, then profound comedy is 01:36:08.189 --> 01:36:09.710 popular, then you will be really good at it. 01:36:09.789 --> 01:36:12.789 But if you're a silly goose... Right. It's not 01:36:12.789 --> 01:36:15.270 worth trying to be profound. Right, right, right. 01:36:15.409 --> 01:36:18.069 Because you being silly is going to be the best 01:36:18.069 --> 01:36:20.069 version of you, and the people will appreciate 01:36:20.069 --> 01:36:22.229 that the most. Also, you can't trick people. 01:36:22.409 --> 01:36:24.930 They know. Even if they're not aware of it, they 01:36:24.930 --> 01:36:27.090 know. They know something's off. Yeah. Something's 01:36:27.090 --> 01:36:29.850 off. That's the honesty in it. Yeah. There's 01:36:29.850 --> 01:36:33.510 brutal honesty in it. Sometimes they'll even 01:36:33.510 --> 01:36:36.649 laugh, but they know that you're lying. Yeah, 01:36:36.670 --> 01:36:38.949 yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah. They know that 01:36:38.949 --> 01:36:41.789 it's not real. It exists for maybe 10, 15 minutes, 01:36:41.890 --> 01:36:44.010 but I think it kind of gets exposed once you 01:36:44.010 --> 01:36:47.090 get into those hour -long sets. It can, for sure. 01:36:47.350 --> 01:36:51.050 You've got to be who you are. Right, yeah. And 01:36:51.050 --> 01:36:54.449 it has to gel together with you. You have to 01:36:54.449 --> 01:36:56.130 be into what you're doing. If you're not into 01:36:56.130 --> 01:36:58.529 what you're doing, you can't say the same words 01:36:58.529 --> 01:37:00.909 with the same inflection without the same mindset. 01:37:01.250 --> 01:37:04.210 If your mindset is off, they fucking know, man. 01:37:04.390 --> 01:37:07.609 It doesn't matter what your timing is. They know, 01:37:07.630 --> 01:37:09.149 they know you're not locked in. So they're not 01:37:09.149 --> 01:37:10.689 locked in. Like, how come you didn't bring me 01:37:10.689 --> 01:37:13.029 in? You know? Yeah. Like when someone's killing, 01:37:13.050 --> 01:37:14.630 like last night when Holtzman was killing and 01:37:14.630 --> 01:37:16.970 me and Shane were laughing, we were locked into 01:37:16.970 --> 01:37:18.949 whatever this psychopath was talking about. He 01:37:18.949 --> 01:37:20.869 was talking about drowning people. I was like, 01:37:20.949 --> 01:37:25.149 he's so out of his fucking mind. It was so funny. 01:37:25.270 --> 01:37:28.489 Yeah. It was so funny. But you give them that. 01:37:28.550 --> 01:37:30.609 You let them take your mind for a ride. If it's 01:37:30.609 --> 01:37:32.289 real to them. I think that's the thing about 01:37:32.289 --> 01:37:36.380 Joey that I've always admired is like. It's pure. 01:37:36.520 --> 01:37:38.619 It's authentic. You can kind of get away with 01:37:38.619 --> 01:37:41.920 whatever you want if it's pure. Yeah. And when 01:37:41.920 --> 01:37:45.260 we know you're faking and you're doing something 01:37:45.260 --> 01:37:46.899 that makes me feel uncomfortable, now I'm double 01:37:46.899 --> 01:37:48.859 uncomfortable. Right. I can be uncomfortable 01:37:48.859 --> 01:37:52.619 if it's real to you. Yeah. I can sustain that. 01:37:52.720 --> 01:37:54.159 You might be talking about some shit that makes 01:37:54.159 --> 01:37:55.859 me feel a little weird, but it's real to you, 01:37:55.899 --> 01:37:57.380 so I go, okay, I'm going to rock with you on 01:37:57.380 --> 01:38:01.779 this. This is a pure version of your art. But, 01:38:01.819 --> 01:38:04.369 yeah, you don't want to lie to people, man. Yeah, 01:38:04.369 --> 01:38:07.850 also if you do it, then you're stuck. Now that's 01:38:07.850 --> 01:38:10.609 how you do art. You lie to people. So you're 01:38:10.609 --> 01:38:15.670 always trying to concoct some new fucking weird 01:38:15.670 --> 01:38:20.689 version of yourself. What's going to sell more? 01:38:21.149 --> 01:38:25.710 You're a pop music star now? Yeah. That's what 01:38:25.710 --> 01:38:27.470 you're like. You like doing pop music comedy. 01:38:27.710 --> 01:38:29.970 But there are people that get attached to what 01:38:29.970 --> 01:38:32.329 works. Yeah. And then they can't run away. They're 01:38:32.329 --> 01:38:34.170 scared to run away. And I kind of have empathy 01:38:34.170 --> 01:38:35.670 for it because it's like you probably struggle 01:38:35.670 --> 01:38:37.569 for so long. You find something that works and 01:38:37.569 --> 01:38:39.609 you're like, okay, finally I'm able to make some 01:38:39.609 --> 01:38:41.270 money. Finally I'm able to have some security. 01:38:41.750 --> 01:38:45.369 But you've got to keep growing past it. I think 01:38:45.369 --> 01:38:47.310 generally those people are self -obsessed too. 01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:50.500 In a bad way where they thinking about themselves 01:38:50.500 --> 01:38:53.359 and success rather than the thing they're doing. 01:38:53.460 --> 01:38:55.119 Yeah Like what is the thing I'm doing? Yeah, 01:38:55.180 --> 01:38:56.560 the thing I'm doing it. I'm trying to create 01:38:56.560 --> 01:38:58.439 something. That's good. That works I'm trying 01:38:58.439 --> 01:39:00.220 to make it the best version of whatever fuck 01:39:00.220 --> 01:39:02.739 it is. Yeah, so how do I do that? You can't be 01:39:02.739 --> 01:39:04.819 thinking about yourself and do that. That's why 01:39:04.819 --> 01:39:08.119 thieves can't write Yeah, because the the my 01:39:08.119 --> 01:39:10.619 mentality being a thief is I want that idea for 01:39:10.619 --> 01:39:13.300 myself Yeah, it's not like I want to create you're 01:39:13.300 --> 01:39:15.420 not addicted to creating right which is like 01:39:15.789 --> 01:39:17.750 The coolest part about this, we get to create 01:39:17.750 --> 01:39:20.770 whatever the fuck we want. And if you get to 01:39:20.770 --> 01:39:22.569 a point, like luckily, where you get a couple 01:39:22.569 --> 01:39:25.710 bucks in the bank, those creations should be 01:39:25.710 --> 01:39:28.510 even more specific to you. Yeah. Because you're 01:39:28.510 --> 01:39:30.510 not doing it so you can buy another house, right? 01:39:30.590 --> 01:39:32.909 You're doing it because you truly spent 20 years 01:39:32.909 --> 01:39:34.329 of your life trying to get good at something. 01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:36.859 And then you can create whatever the fuck you 01:39:36.859 --> 01:39:40.039 want. And also those new things, those new things 01:39:40.039 --> 01:39:42.779 that pop out, they feel like gifts from the universe. 01:39:43.079 --> 01:39:45.680 Like a new bit that's a banger. It's like, where 01:39:45.680 --> 01:39:47.340 did this come from? This came from the universe. 01:39:47.380 --> 01:39:49.239 That shit exists before you. That's what I always 01:39:49.239 --> 01:39:51.579 try to say. Comedy is there, and then we stumble. 01:39:51.739 --> 01:39:53.159 You've got to find it. Yes. You've got to find 01:39:53.159 --> 01:39:55.539 it. You're not making it. And when you're making 01:39:55.539 --> 01:39:58.119 it, it feels too contrived. But the comedy exists. 01:39:58.600 --> 01:40:00.239 Bro, I've got to pee so bad. Let's do a little 01:40:00.239 --> 01:40:01.840 pee. Let's pause. Pause real quick. We'll be 01:40:01.840 --> 01:40:03.819 right back and pee. Are we back in? Yeah, we're 01:40:03.819 --> 01:40:07.859 back, dog. We're back. Yeah. Comedy's great. 01:40:08.960 --> 01:40:10.720 Comedy's the best job on earth for us. It really 01:40:10.720 --> 01:40:13.600 is. For us, you know? I was trying to talk Woody 01:40:13.600 --> 01:40:15.899 into doing it last night. I mean... Because he 01:40:15.899 --> 01:40:17.600 was thinking about it. Because apparently he 01:40:17.600 --> 01:40:19.880 had... I said, I will 100 % help you. He goes, 01:40:19.880 --> 01:40:22.380 would you really? I go, 100%. I go, if you want 01:40:22.380 --> 01:40:25.539 to do comedy, I'll get you time. I'll work with 01:40:25.539 --> 01:40:28.369 you on material. I'll get guys to help you. I'll 01:40:28.369 --> 01:40:31.270 work with you. You could totally do it. If you 01:40:31.270 --> 01:40:33.350 could do that monologue on SNL, you could do 01:40:33.350 --> 01:40:35.149 stand -up. Yeah. You could do stand -up. Brave 01:40:35.149 --> 01:40:38.229 for that monologue. Yeah. Brave guy. Yeah. Because 01:40:38.229 --> 01:40:42.569 he has a lot to lose, perception -wise. Maybe 01:40:42.569 --> 01:40:44.770 he doesn't care. But that's where bravery comes 01:40:44.770 --> 01:40:46.409 in. When you've got nothing to lose, it's like, 01:40:46.449 --> 01:40:47.689 yeah, you can kind of say whatever the fuck you 01:40:47.689 --> 01:40:49.329 want. It doesn't really matter. He's kind of 01:40:49.329 --> 01:40:52.029 grandfathered in. Oh, really? He's Woody Harrelson. 01:40:52.109 --> 01:40:53.689 But you don't think it could affect him at all? 01:40:54.010 --> 01:40:56.449 Yeah, it could, but I don't think anymore. I 01:40:56.449 --> 01:40:58.909 think the world's kind of woken up the fact that, 01:40:58.930 --> 01:41:01.050 first of all, he's accurate. Like, you really 01:41:01.050 --> 01:41:02.989 can't attack what he's saying. Yeah, yeah. You 01:41:02.989 --> 01:41:05.449 know? So, like, you don't think he should be 01:41:05.449 --> 01:41:07.869 saying it? Yeah. Okay, well, that's kind of debatable. 01:41:08.069 --> 01:41:10.449 Yeah. And that's on you. Yeah. I think you can 01:41:10.449 --> 01:41:12.270 say whatever the fuck he wants in that regard. 01:41:12.430 --> 01:41:14.729 Yeah. You know? Yeah. Because it's like, at this 01:41:14.729 --> 01:41:17.460 point, it's like, who doesn't? think he's accurate 01:41:17.460 --> 01:41:19.979 yeah like you're in denial if you don't think 01:41:19.979 --> 01:41:21.739 he's accurate this is a problem that democrats 01:41:21.739 --> 01:41:24.880 have right now what's that is that the trump 01:41:24.880 --> 01:41:27.659 administration what they're uncovering with doge 01:41:27.659 --> 01:41:30.420 like all this waste and fraud and abuse whatever 01:41:30.420 --> 01:41:32.720 whatever you want to categorize it as and i'm 01:41:32.720 --> 01:41:34.000 sure there's a bunch of things that fall into 01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:37.439 different categories yeah but um the the democrats 01:41:37.439 --> 01:41:39.119 aren't acknowledging that it's a problem at all 01:41:39.560 --> 01:41:41.279 They're not saying when you find this building 01:41:41.279 --> 01:41:43.680 in San Antonio that they spent $2 billion on 01:41:43.680 --> 01:41:45.739 and it's completely empty and it's getting, you 01:41:45.739 --> 01:41:47.680 know, a million dollars a month or whatever the 01:41:47.680 --> 01:41:49.300 fuck it's getting. And where's that money going? 01:41:49.600 --> 01:41:53.439 Yeah. The tricky thing about this Doge thing 01:41:53.439 --> 01:41:57.140 is, like, I don't think there's any American 01:41:57.140 --> 01:42:01.720 out there that is supportive of waste. fraud 01:42:01.720 --> 01:42:04.640 and corruption, it should be a bipartisan issue, 01:42:04.779 --> 01:42:07.460 right? Right. Like it's a very easy thing to 01:42:07.460 --> 01:42:10.039 get on board with. Right. And this is where I 01:42:10.039 --> 01:42:13.100 feel like, I feel like Elon's being a little 01:42:13.100 --> 01:42:15.020 antagonistic. I have a lot of respect for Elon, 01:42:15.079 --> 01:42:17.840 don't get me wrong, but like it's becoming easier 01:42:17.840 --> 01:42:20.920 to be a bipartisan issue in the way that it's 01:42:20.920 --> 01:42:24.340 communicated. Whereas like having that like political 01:42:24.340 --> 01:42:27.869 decorum. Like having that ability to pull everybody 01:42:27.869 --> 01:42:30.710 into this thing might be a little bit more effective 01:42:30.710 --> 01:42:33.329 on an issue that we can all get behind. There's 01:42:33.329 --> 01:42:35.229 no American that wants waste, fraud and corruption. 01:42:35.550 --> 01:42:38.649 I hate that this is becoming bipartisan. It drives 01:42:38.649 --> 01:42:41.130 me fucking crazy because on the surface, nobody 01:42:41.130 --> 01:42:44.909 wants the waste. Right. Like both Democrats should 01:42:44.909 --> 01:42:47.090 be. This shouldn't be. They shouldn't be booing 01:42:47.090 --> 01:42:48.710 or whatever the fuck was happening at that like 01:42:48.710 --> 01:42:50.770 hearing last night, even hearing he was like 01:42:50.770 --> 01:42:52.250 addressing the Senate. Right. This shouldn't 01:42:52.250 --> 01:42:55.250 be union. It should be everybody going. Hey, 01:42:55.430 --> 01:42:58.649 we agree this is fucked up. This is happening 01:42:58.649 --> 01:43:01.550 in some of our regions or whatever it is, like 01:43:01.550 --> 01:43:03.229 where you're responsible for those constituents. 01:43:03.229 --> 01:43:05.949 What's that called? If you're a congressman, 01:43:05.970 --> 01:43:09.010 your district. We need to be better about this. 01:43:09.090 --> 01:43:10.829 We need to fix this. We got to take this on the 01:43:10.829 --> 01:43:13.250 chin and we agree. And it could be this great 01:43:13.250 --> 01:43:15.310 revolution in America that could really support 01:43:15.310 --> 01:43:18.329 everybody. And it's become this fucking bipartisan 01:43:18.329 --> 01:43:20.090 issue. And I understand there's like a lot of 01:43:20.090 --> 01:43:22.109 currency and like making the opposition look 01:43:22.109 --> 01:43:25.010 radioactive. I get that. But this is where you 01:43:25.010 --> 01:43:29.050 wish that there was, like, some sort of masterful 01:43:29.050 --> 01:43:31.529 communication version of this instead of a little 01:43:31.529 --> 01:43:33.550 bit more of, like, this, like, putting the knife 01:43:33.550 --> 01:43:35.850 in and twisting it a little. Yeah, no, I agree. 01:43:36.029 --> 01:43:40.569 I agree on both sides. I think people are really 01:43:40.569 --> 01:43:43.189 foolish spending all their time just attacking 01:43:43.189 --> 01:43:46.090 the ideas of the other party instead of promoting 01:43:46.090 --> 01:43:49.970 really good ideas of your own. Amen. the thing 01:43:49.970 --> 01:43:52.069 about this whole doge thing is it's such a lightning 01:43:52.069 --> 01:43:53.890 rod and one of the reasons why it's such a lightning 01:43:53.890 --> 01:43:56.750 rod is because these politicians are being pressured 01:43:56.750 --> 01:43:59.789 to try to keep a lot of the spending because 01:43:59.789 --> 01:44:03.180 a lot of the spending is It's all shenanigans. 01:44:03.199 --> 01:44:05.979 It's moving around to thousands of different 01:44:05.979 --> 01:44:09.359 NGOs. You're talking about billions and billions 01:44:09.359 --> 01:44:11.399 and billions of dollars that were going somewhere. 01:44:11.640 --> 01:44:14.760 So people were profiting. People had jobs, and 01:44:14.760 --> 01:44:16.340 they want to keep all those jobs. They want to 01:44:16.340 --> 01:44:18.300 keep that money flowing, even the bullshit money, 01:44:18.399 --> 01:44:20.380 as much as they can. So there's fucking court 01:44:20.380 --> 01:44:22.960 orders, and there's lawsuits. The Supreme Court 01:44:22.960 --> 01:44:27.439 just stopped a $1 .9 billion freeze on something. 01:44:27.659 --> 01:44:29.380 There's something that just came up. It was today. 01:44:30.270 --> 01:44:32.210 So there's like legal battles about all this 01:44:32.210 --> 01:44:36.050 stuff. You're going to have a lot of confusion 01:44:36.050 --> 01:44:39.689 in that regard. But I think it's important. One 01:44:39.689 --> 01:44:41.109 of the things they're doing is they're highlighting 01:44:41.109 --> 01:44:43.590 the ridiculous things. Like they're highlighting 01:44:43.590 --> 01:44:47.050 the $250 million on transgender animal studies. 01:44:47.829 --> 01:44:51.029 $4 .7 trillion that they can't account for. The 01:44:51.029 --> 01:44:52.729 way that he was saying it. Did you watch it? 01:44:52.789 --> 01:44:55.250 I mean, it's hilarious. Oh, you got to watch 01:44:55.250 --> 01:44:57.850 him talk about it. I'm sure it's amazing and 01:44:57.850 --> 01:45:00.229 I will. I will watch. I was busy last night. 01:45:00.310 --> 01:45:06.909 But it's like there's also a way to really clearly 01:45:06.909 --> 01:45:11.409 express to people that there's legitimate use 01:45:11.409 --> 01:45:14.779 for aid. And this isn't really USAID. It's United 01:45:14.779 --> 01:45:17.079 States Agency for International Development. 01:45:17.300 --> 01:45:20.520 If you're worried about foreign aid, I fully, 01:45:20.619 --> 01:45:23.420 completely agree. We should spend money in third 01:45:23.420 --> 01:45:25.560 world countries building wells. We should spend 01:45:25.560 --> 01:45:28.220 money trying to get food to poor people. And 01:45:28.220 --> 01:45:29.279 that's not what this program is designed to do. 01:45:29.279 --> 01:45:30.840 Right, that's not what this is about. And if 01:45:30.840 --> 01:45:33.140 it's about, like... This is exercising self -power. 01:45:33.319 --> 01:45:35.260 Healthcare for people and providing free clinics 01:45:35.260 --> 01:45:37.619 for people in impoverished areas. Yeah, we should 01:45:37.619 --> 01:45:40.479 spend on that. But also, that's not where this 01:45:40.479 --> 01:45:43.239 money's going. A lot of this is regime overthrowing 01:45:43.239 --> 01:45:45.960 money. This is regime change money. A lot of 01:45:45.960 --> 01:45:48.239 this is money that's being propped up. They're 01:45:48.239 --> 01:45:50.399 sending money to the Taliban every fucking week. 01:45:50.539 --> 01:45:53.000 This is crazy. You have to understand what this 01:45:53.000 --> 01:45:56.000 really is. So what we have to do, I think, as 01:45:56.000 --> 01:45:59.779 Americans is... Look, you got a president. He's 01:45:59.779 --> 01:46:01.380 your president, whether you like it or not. That's 01:46:01.380 --> 01:46:03.260 your president for four years. Let's hope he 01:46:03.260 --> 01:46:05.579 does a great job. Wouldn't you want him to do 01:46:05.579 --> 01:46:06.920 the great job? He's the captain of the ship and 01:46:06.920 --> 01:46:09.000 I want to hit the rocks. Yeah. Let's hope he 01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:10.979 gets us into a beautiful harbor. Absolutely. 01:46:11.239 --> 01:46:13.479 So together, that doesn't mean the Democrats 01:46:13.479 --> 01:46:16.340 can't win in four years, but you can't win doing 01:46:16.340 --> 01:46:19.060 this. You can't win all saying this shit ain't 01:46:19.060 --> 01:46:21.380 right. And then all of you say the exact same 01:46:21.380 --> 01:46:24.439 thing. Well, now I know who's on the take. Now 01:46:24.439 --> 01:46:26.640 I know who's got the script. Now I know who doesn't 01:46:26.640 --> 01:46:28.520 have a fucking mind of their own. You have to 01:46:28.520 --> 01:46:31.239 read the script that whatever corporate daddy 01:46:31.239 --> 01:46:33.720 filed onto your desk. It's think tank policy. 01:46:33.800 --> 01:46:37.579 they need a real leader and those real leaders 01:46:37.579 --> 01:46:39.140 are all pussy hounds and they're all gonna that's 01:46:39.140 --> 01:46:46.100 the problem they all got skeletons yeah it's 01:46:46.100 --> 01:46:49.119 gotta come from outside yeah I wonder like or 01:46:49.119 --> 01:46:50.460 they gotta be a guy like Trump who could take 01:46:50.460 --> 01:46:53.630 the hits that's and And keep on trucking. You 01:46:53.630 --> 01:46:56.050 need to have a very strong constitution to do 01:46:56.050 --> 01:46:58.130 that. I don't understand his constitution. What 01:46:58.130 --> 01:46:59.430 do you mean? You go through the same shit. Yeah, 01:46:59.449 --> 01:47:01.770 but his is beyond. They shot him, dude. Yeah, 01:47:01.789 --> 01:47:03.409 they haven't shot you yet. Not only did they 01:47:03.409 --> 01:47:08.130 shoot him. Yet. You perform inside. That's the 01:47:08.130 --> 01:47:10.270 problem. That's part of the problem. Yeah. But 01:47:10.270 --> 01:47:13.520 not only did they shoot him. But people forgot 01:47:13.520 --> 01:47:16.159 about it in two weeks. Yeah. And to this day. 01:47:16.180 --> 01:47:18.000 Moving right along. He didn't get shot enough. 01:47:18.220 --> 01:47:19.840 To this day. Like people were talking about his 01:47:19.840 --> 01:47:21.899 ear. They're like, oh, but it doesn't look that 01:47:21.899 --> 01:47:24.039 shot. And it's like. There's so many people that 01:47:24.039 --> 01:47:26.239 think that he rigged it, that he did it on purpose, 01:47:26.420 --> 01:47:29.560 that he staged it. Yeah, he staged a bullet coming. 01:47:29.739 --> 01:47:32.699 Nicking his ear. Like they don't understand accuracy. 01:47:33.020 --> 01:47:35.699 Come on. Especially with iron sights. You know, 01:47:35.699 --> 01:47:38.760 he didn't even have a scope on the rifle. So... 01:47:38.760 --> 01:47:41.239 Do you know what iron sights are? Okay. So, like, 01:47:41.260 --> 01:47:43.180 say if you have a pistol. Yeah. At the back of 01:47:43.180 --> 01:47:45.359 the pistol, where the handle is, there's these... 01:47:45.359 --> 01:47:46.479 Oh, the little thing that you're supposed to 01:47:46.479 --> 01:47:47.560 look through, yeah. And then there's a little 01:47:47.560 --> 01:47:49.979 post at the front, and you line the two of them 01:47:49.979 --> 01:47:52.699 up like that. Yeah. And he's shooting 140 yards 01:47:52.699 --> 01:47:56.079 with iron sights. Yeah. You can't just nick someone's 01:47:56.079 --> 01:47:58.699 ear. You'll hit their fucking head. You'll blow 01:47:58.699 --> 01:48:01.180 their brains out accidentally. How much do you 01:48:01.180 --> 01:48:02.600 have to account for gravity at that distance? 01:48:02.880 --> 01:48:05.340 You don't. That's really short. That's a short 01:48:05.340 --> 01:48:07.920 distance. That's why you can put the post on 01:48:07.920 --> 01:48:09.899 it. If you wanted to go long distance, then you 01:48:09.899 --> 01:48:11.880 would want a scope. You want a high -powered 01:48:11.880 --> 01:48:13.779 scope, and you would also use ballistic software. 01:48:14.670 --> 01:48:17.869 So ballistic software is like you would apply, 01:48:18.350 --> 01:48:20.729 like there's like a watch that has it built in 01:48:20.729 --> 01:48:24.550 actually, the Garmin Tactics X, Tactics 8 rather. 01:48:24.689 --> 01:48:27.930 Shout out Garmin. You would take this ballistic 01:48:27.930 --> 01:48:31.409 software. You calculate the distance. So you 01:48:31.409 --> 01:48:34.310 would use a range finder, which he had, by the 01:48:34.310 --> 01:48:36.090 way. He had a fucking range. He was walking around 01:48:36.090 --> 01:48:38.689 with a range finder before. They saw him with 01:48:38.689 --> 01:48:40.250 a range finder. They didn't even arrest him. 01:48:40.649 --> 01:48:42.369 Somebody let him on that roof. They fucking gave 01:48:42.369 --> 01:48:44.689 him that gun. That's what I think. The range 01:48:44.689 --> 01:48:47.869 finder would say, oh, 500 yards. So then you 01:48:47.869 --> 01:48:51.149 would set your sight for 500 yards. And then 01:48:51.149 --> 01:48:53.189 it adjusts accordingly when you're looking. Yeah, 01:48:53.250 --> 01:48:57.689 yeah. That makes sense. your application with 01:48:57.689 --> 01:49:01.149 some scopes, you can actually sync up your scope 01:49:01.149 --> 01:49:04.369 with your app. So it'll put the reticle, it'll 01:49:04.369 --> 01:49:06.590 put the crosshairs exactly where you need to 01:49:06.590 --> 01:49:10.220 aim. For the bullet to drop. Exactly. Exactly. 01:49:10.220 --> 01:49:13.619 That makes sense. So the reticle, the X would 01:49:13.619 --> 01:49:15.960 move up and down. Accordingly, yeah. Exactly. 01:49:16.000 --> 01:49:17.800 But at that distance, you're saying that there 01:49:17.800 --> 01:49:19.380 isn't too much. No, there's no. And he's also 01:49:19.380 --> 01:49:22.640 elevated. It's a straight shot. I mean, maybe 01:49:22.640 --> 01:49:25.960 a very slight drop because it's only like a millisecond 01:49:25.960 --> 01:49:28.520 before it hits him. It's a very slight drop at 01:49:28.520 --> 01:49:30.300 that. But when you get to, like, significant 01:49:30.300 --> 01:49:34.060 distances, like 400 yards, 500 yards, it's a 01:49:34.060 --> 01:49:37.359 factor. Yeah. Like, you hold high. What does 01:49:37.359 --> 01:49:39.720 that mean, hold high? So if you're zeroed, say 01:49:39.720 --> 01:49:42.319 if I'm shooting a deer and my rifle's zeroed 01:49:42.319 --> 01:49:44.779 at 100 yards, that means at 100 yards it shoots 01:49:44.779 --> 01:49:47.720 exactly where that crosshairs is. But the deer 01:49:47.720 --> 01:49:50.180 is 300 yards, I'll hold it at the top of his 01:49:50.180 --> 01:49:52.359 back. because you know it's going to come down. 01:49:52.460 --> 01:49:54.060 I know it's going to drop. This is with bows 01:49:54.060 --> 01:49:55.420 or this is with bows? No, this is with a rifle. 01:49:55.539 --> 01:49:57.279 And then with bows, I imagine it's even more. 01:49:57.619 --> 01:50:01.779 With bows, you have to be very, very sure because 01:50:01.779 --> 01:50:04.479 there's so much drop. There's so much drop. Yeah. 01:50:04.539 --> 01:50:09.189 Yeah, there's so much drop. I have... a rangefinder. 01:50:09.350 --> 01:50:11.369 It's not just a rangefinder. It's called a full 01:50:11.369 --> 01:50:14.630 draw. It's a loophole full draw 5. And what it 01:50:14.630 --> 01:50:17.590 does is it doesn't just put the reticle and tell 01:50:17.590 --> 01:50:19.449 me the exact distance. It says I'm not aiming 01:50:19.449 --> 01:50:21.390 with this. This is just giving me the distance. 01:50:21.510 --> 01:50:25.170 But it also shows me a line where the peak of 01:50:25.170 --> 01:50:28.069 the arrow height is. Because the arrow arcs, 01:50:28.069 --> 01:50:31.449 right? What I'm doing is I'm shooting through 01:50:31.449 --> 01:50:33.590 trees sometimes. Like, I'm trying to shoot an 01:50:33.590 --> 01:50:36.130 animal, and I'm shooting through a gap in the 01:50:36.130 --> 01:50:38.470 trees. So you have to make sure that on the drop, 01:50:38.529 --> 01:50:41.149 it passes through that gap in the tree. Exactly. 01:50:41.550 --> 01:50:46.109 Exactly. Exactly. Like, there's a video of me 01:50:46.109 --> 01:50:49.869 hunting with Cam. We were hunting in Utah. And 01:50:49.869 --> 01:50:52.569 it was for Under Armour, back when he was with 01:50:52.569 --> 01:50:56.389 Under Armour. And I had to shoot this elk. through 01:50:56.389 --> 01:50:59.569 trees i shot it through like it's a video you 01:50:59.569 --> 01:51:03.119 can see the arrow go right through this hole. 01:51:03.220 --> 01:51:05.020 It's probably one of the most beautiful shots 01:51:05.020 --> 01:51:07.380 I've ever made. And I made it on camera because 01:51:07.380 --> 01:51:09.060 I was kind of freaking out. I got to have a hunt 01:51:09.060 --> 01:51:11.500 on camera? Like hunting is a big thing for a 01:51:11.500 --> 01:51:13.420 celebrity to be doing. You're hunting, but you're 01:51:13.420 --> 01:51:15.159 also going to hunt on camera and you're going 01:51:15.159 --> 01:51:17.239 to hunt on camera with a bow and arrow. So I 01:51:17.239 --> 01:51:19.979 was like super locked in. And it was just, it 01:51:19.979 --> 01:51:22.840 was perfect. It was just magical how that arrow 01:51:22.840 --> 01:51:25.520 went right through this gap. Just thread the 01:51:25.520 --> 01:51:27.880 needle and whop. Right in the heart. It was perfect. 01:51:28.060 --> 01:51:30.340 It was a perfect shot. Like, exactly where you're 01:51:30.340 --> 01:51:32.819 wrong. Right behind the shoulder, right up here. 01:51:32.899 --> 01:51:34.699 It was like double lungs and the top of the heart. 01:51:34.859 --> 01:51:38.720 Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. And then you got to carry that 01:51:38.720 --> 01:51:40.850 bitch. Yeah, well, you got to chop it up first. 01:51:40.909 --> 01:51:42.770 You're not carrying it. It's too big. That's 01:51:42.770 --> 01:51:44.829 the thing that, like, I never accounted for. 01:51:44.970 --> 01:51:46.470 I was watching, I don't know if it was some video 01:51:46.470 --> 01:51:49.189 you posted or maybe it was Cam. But, like, I 01:51:49.189 --> 01:51:51.029 always thought about the hunting part. Like, 01:51:51.090 --> 01:51:53.329 okay, let's find it. Let's track it. Let's shoot 01:51:53.329 --> 01:51:55.890 it. But I never thought about getting home with 01:51:55.890 --> 01:51:59.770 all the meat. Oh, yeah, man. That seems so brutal. 01:51:59.789 --> 01:52:03.689 It's very hard. And what we do is way easier 01:52:03.689 --> 01:52:07.699 than what some guys do. Some guys do. public 01:52:07.699 --> 01:52:12.180 land solo backpack elk hunting so they're throwing 01:52:12.180 --> 01:52:14.960 the shit in the backpack they have a pack so 01:52:14.960 --> 01:52:18.250 they'll take like a pack like uh Great Pack is 01:52:18.250 --> 01:52:20.609 like XO Mountain Gear. It's a great company that 01:52:20.609 --> 01:52:23.270 makes packs. And they have different frames based 01:52:23.270 --> 01:52:25.909 on your height. It's all made so you can carry 01:52:25.909 --> 01:52:28.069 a lot of weight on your body. A lot of it sits 01:52:28.069 --> 01:52:30.430 on your hips. And it's all like engineered. Oh, 01:52:30.430 --> 01:52:32.569 it displaces the weight so you're not just getting 01:52:32.569 --> 01:52:35.489 dragged on. It's genius. Pull up like XO Mountain 01:52:35.489 --> 01:52:39.909 Gear backpacks. They have specific packs that 01:52:39.909 --> 01:52:42.010 are designed so you can carry 100 pounds on your 01:52:42.010 --> 01:52:44.640 back. Right. Like, as comfortably as you can. 01:52:44.800 --> 01:52:49.239 But it's fucking brutal. So these guys might... 01:52:49.560 --> 01:52:53.039 Hike in. No bullshit. Miles, right? So that's 01:52:53.039 --> 01:52:55.279 what it looks like. So see all these packs? Get 01:52:55.279 --> 01:52:57.420 the picture of those guys when they have it on 01:52:57.420 --> 01:52:59.100 their back, Jamie, the one above that? Yeah, 01:52:59.119 --> 01:53:00.680 that one right there. So that's what it would 01:53:00.680 --> 01:53:03.079 look like for two dudes who are carrying their 01:53:03.079 --> 01:53:05.159 whole camp on their back. So they probably have 01:53:05.159 --> 01:53:07.500 their tent in there. They have their sleeping 01:53:07.500 --> 01:53:10.699 bag in there. They have food in there for a week. 01:53:11.079 --> 01:53:13.460 You've got freeze -dried food, generally speaking. 01:53:15.439 --> 01:53:17.260 There's a bunch of different meals, like mountain 01:53:17.260 --> 01:53:20.520 ops. Not mountain ops. There's a bunch of different 01:53:20.520 --> 01:53:23.220 companies. So this is a guy carrying an elk quarter 01:53:23.220 --> 01:53:25.640 on his back. That motherfucker probably has 100 01:53:25.640 --> 01:53:27.800 pounds on his back right now because he has his 01:53:27.800 --> 01:53:29.819 bag and his pack, which is probably 50 pounds, 01:53:29.960 --> 01:53:32.340 and then he has a giant -ass elk leg on his back. 01:53:32.680 --> 01:53:35.579 All right, so is there ever a distance that they 01:53:35.579 --> 01:53:38.640 deem too far because walking back with the elk, 01:53:38.699 --> 01:53:40.989 it wouldn't be worth it? So, like, I imagine 01:53:40.989 --> 01:53:42.609 you're tracking for a while. It's not like you 01:53:42.609 --> 01:53:44.489 just walk in and there are all the elks, right? 01:53:44.590 --> 01:53:46.390 You have to find them. Yeah. But you can get 01:53:46.390 --> 01:53:48.270 lucky and find them a couple of miles in, and 01:53:48.270 --> 01:53:50.229 that's pretty nice. But is there a point where 01:53:50.229 --> 01:53:52.210 you go, I'm not going more than five because 01:53:52.210 --> 01:53:54.229 five back carrying the elk would be too difficult? 01:53:54.369 --> 01:53:56.630 Yeah, some guys do that. But some guys are hard 01:53:56.630 --> 01:53:59.510 fucking core. They'll kill an elk 25 miles in 01:53:59.510 --> 01:54:02.770 and spend three days bringing it back. And now 01:54:02.770 --> 01:54:06.350 you have elk carcass. Mm -hmm. You have all the 01:54:06.350 --> 01:54:07.949 other animals that also like to dine on elk. 01:54:07.949 --> 01:54:09.489 You got to string it up in a tree. You string 01:54:09.489 --> 01:54:11.689 it up in a tree. Got it. So getting it, it's 01:54:11.689 --> 01:54:12.989 like, oh, what is that? Old Man and the Sea? 01:54:13.109 --> 01:54:16.869 Is that the book? Where he finally hunts and 01:54:16.869 --> 01:54:19.090 gets this big fish, but he's got to bring it 01:54:19.090 --> 01:54:20.710 back. And by the time he brings it back, it's 01:54:20.710 --> 01:54:22.210 just like a skeleton. Nobody believes he got 01:54:22.210 --> 01:54:25.949 this amazing big fish. But you don't ever think 01:54:25.949 --> 01:54:28.550 about the journey back. Yeah. That seems almost 01:54:28.550 --> 01:54:32.289 more stressful. Well, the best way to do it, 01:54:32.310 --> 01:54:34.789 the backcountry, if you have the money, is horse. 01:54:35.900 --> 01:54:38.420 They have horses take you back there. And the 01:54:38.420 --> 01:54:41.159 horses will pack, or mules. Yeah, so you can 01:54:41.159 --> 01:54:43.939 pack them up. Yeah, they'll keep your camp on 01:54:43.939 --> 01:54:46.720 their back. And you'll have several, like a train 01:54:46.720 --> 01:54:49.039 of them. And then you can load them up with elk 01:54:49.039 --> 01:54:51.779 quarters and take them back. And for them, it 01:54:51.779 --> 01:54:53.659 ain't shit. It's thousands of pounds, right? 01:54:53.899 --> 01:54:56.840 Well, it's not really. How much is an elk? It's 01:54:56.840 --> 01:55:00.119 about 400 pounds of meat. Oh, because you're 01:55:00.119 --> 01:55:01.779 leaving the bones and everything. You're leaving 01:55:01.779 --> 01:55:03.439 a lot. So you skin it, you cut it up. Yeah, yeah, 01:55:03.439 --> 01:55:05.220 yeah. But you've got to take some of the bones. 01:55:05.300 --> 01:55:07.640 You want a rib, right? You could have the ribs. 01:55:07.680 --> 01:55:11.819 Most guys cut the rib meat out of the ribs and 01:55:11.819 --> 01:55:15.020 you grind it and make hamburger or chili out 01:55:15.020 --> 01:55:18.560 of it or things like that. Yeah. Yeah. Cam, he 01:55:18.560 --> 01:55:21.460 makes strips and then chops those strips up. 01:55:22.619 --> 01:55:24.260 There's a lot of different things you could do 01:55:24.260 --> 01:55:26.880 with rib meat. It's pretty tender. It's good. 01:55:27.119 --> 01:55:30.100 It's real good when you cook them slow over a 01:55:30.100 --> 01:55:32.760 fire, though. It's not the most tender meat. 01:55:33.460 --> 01:55:37.100 When you cook them over a fire, it can get pretty 01:55:37.100 --> 01:55:40.180 tough unless you do it real low and slow, like 01:55:40.180 --> 01:55:42.159 smoking it almost like you would do a barbecue. 01:55:42.779 --> 01:55:46.800 But it makes great hamburger. But like the real, 01:55:46.880 --> 01:55:50.600 what everybody really loves is like the back 01:55:50.600 --> 01:55:53.479 strap. That's like essentially that would be 01:55:53.479 --> 01:55:55.520 like the fillet. The fillet, right. The tenderloin. 01:55:55.739 --> 01:55:58.920 And then the quarters. You make great steaks 01:55:58.920 --> 01:56:00.939 and you can make. What do these guys do when 01:56:00.939 --> 01:56:05.439 they age out of this? Like hunting? Yeah. You 01:56:05.439 --> 01:56:08.560 try not to. Keep working out. But, like, an NBA 01:56:08.560 --> 01:56:11.560 player eventually reaches the end of his professional 01:56:11.560 --> 01:56:13.680 playing ability. He might play in a gym. But, 01:56:13.699 --> 01:56:16.739 like, what does a Cam do at, like, 75? He'll 01:56:16.739 --> 01:56:18.920 still be bow hunting at 75. Hunt a different 01:56:18.920 --> 01:56:21.920 thing? No. No, he'll be doing the same thing. 01:56:22.119 --> 01:56:23.800 There's physical limitations, I imagine. There 01:56:23.800 --> 01:56:27.500 are, but not as much anymore. Not with, like, 01:56:27.500 --> 01:56:30.340 hormone replacement and weightlifting. Got it, 01:56:30.380 --> 01:56:34.319 got it. You know, like, guys like me didn't exist. 01:56:35.119 --> 01:56:38.100 30 years ago, like 57 year old Jack dudes. Yeah. 01:56:38.239 --> 01:56:40.319 They didn't exist. Yeah. By the time you get 01:56:40.319 --> 01:56:43.699 57, all that shit's gone. Yeah. And all that 01:56:43.699 --> 01:56:48.060 shit goes away. I still have 30 year old arms. 01:56:48.260 --> 01:56:52.619 They're still legit. They were, they were real 01:56:52.619 --> 01:56:55.939 good. Everything works real good. But you have 01:56:55.939 --> 01:56:58.260 to maintain yourself, take care of yourself. 01:56:58.520 --> 01:57:00.039 And if there's something like that that you care 01:57:00.039 --> 01:57:03.600 about, like I have a friend, Brendan Burns, he 01:57:03.600 --> 01:57:06.699 runs Kuyu. It's like a huge outdoor clothing 01:57:06.699 --> 01:57:09.260 company. He's a hardcore bow hunter, one of the 01:57:09.260 --> 01:57:11.060 best bow hunters in the world. Was a big -time 01:57:11.060 --> 01:57:13.920 college wrestler, like a great athlete. Won't 01:57:13.920 --> 01:57:16.100 even try jiu -jitsu because he doesn't want to 01:57:16.100 --> 01:57:18.729 hurt himself for hunting. Yes, everything is 01:57:18.729 --> 01:57:20.289 built around hunting. He's like, I'm not skiing. 01:57:20.489 --> 01:57:22.649 I'm not fucking around. Fuck that. I feel like 01:57:22.649 --> 01:57:24.729 that's my whole workout regimen is just so I 01:57:24.729 --> 01:57:27.289 could play this sport called paddle. It's not 01:57:27.289 --> 01:57:29.189 pickleball. It's called paddle. What is this? 01:57:29.710 --> 01:57:31.869 It's a racket sport that I'm absolutely obsessed 01:57:31.869 --> 01:57:34.170 with. I swear to God. It started in Acapulco, 01:57:34.210 --> 01:57:36.369 Mexico, and then it goes to Spain, and it gets 01:57:36.369 --> 01:57:38.350 blown up there, and it's essentially like squash 01:57:38.350 --> 01:57:42.609 and tennis mixed together. So there's walls. 01:57:42.850 --> 01:57:44.670 There's this glass wall in the back and these 01:57:44.670 --> 01:57:46.489 fences on the side. Have you heard of this, Jamie? 01:57:46.630 --> 01:57:48.090 Yeah, I've played with them. Yeah, we played. 01:57:48.130 --> 01:57:51.569 I dragged him out. Bro, it is the most obsessed. 01:57:52.029 --> 01:57:53.529 It's the fastest growing sport in the world right 01:57:53.529 --> 01:57:55.430 now. It will take over tennis. Are you a spokesperson 01:57:55.430 --> 01:57:57.069 for Paddle? Is that what's going on here? I probably 01:57:57.069 --> 01:57:59.369 am the only person that is talking about it at 01:57:59.369 --> 01:58:02.689 this level. This is me. This is shout out Paddle 01:58:02.689 --> 01:58:04.409 House in New York. They got one in Williamsburg 01:58:04.409 --> 01:58:06.529 and one in Brooklyn. And this is the game? This 01:58:06.529 --> 01:58:08.029 is the game. I'm so bad. And you play with tennis 01:58:08.029 --> 01:58:10.510 balls? So you play with a deflated tennis ball. 01:58:11.580 --> 01:58:13.840 So essentially what it is, you got to show highlights 01:58:13.840 --> 01:58:15.619 because I'm so fucking horrible that it's not 01:58:15.619 --> 01:58:18.079 going to do it justice. But the idea behind it 01:58:18.079 --> 01:58:21.699 is, at least for me, is there's always hope. 01:58:21.880 --> 01:58:24.079 So the ball gets past you in tennis, you're cooked. 01:58:24.220 --> 01:58:25.859 The ball gets past you in paddle, it bounces 01:58:25.859 --> 01:58:27.880 off that back wall and you're playing it off 01:58:27.880 --> 01:58:30.359 the back wall. So you're never fully out of the 01:58:30.359 --> 01:58:35.039 game. And you're constantly, it is the only thing 01:58:35.039 --> 01:58:38.640 outside of like surfing and boxing and then comedy 01:58:38.640 --> 01:58:42.489 where I'm not, look at this. What? That guy went 01:58:42.489 --> 01:58:44.409 out the door. Oh, you're allowed to leave and 01:58:44.409 --> 01:58:47.670 go get it. Yeah, I mean, it's just... Dude, I 01:58:47.670 --> 01:58:48.810 was down in Miami. There's a thing called the 01:58:48.810 --> 01:58:50.750 Reserve Cup. Shout out Reserve. How do I not 01:58:50.750 --> 01:58:53.350 know about this? This is the... I'm telling you, 01:58:53.369 --> 01:58:55.909 this will extend my life by, God bless, 10, 20 01:58:55.909 --> 01:58:57.729 years. Really? Also, you've got to watch the 01:58:57.729 --> 01:58:59.090 chicks play because they don't have the power 01:58:59.090 --> 01:59:02.350 to smack it out, so it's just pure skill and... 01:59:02.350 --> 01:59:05.350 And cleverness? Yeah, exactly. And placement? 01:59:05.569 --> 01:59:07.829 Everything is placement. It's delicate placement. 01:59:08.479 --> 01:59:10.859 So what they're trying to do is, I'm telling 01:59:10.859 --> 01:59:12.579 you, it's unbelievable. And everybody that's 01:59:12.579 --> 01:59:14.100 playing tennis and squash and all these other 01:59:14.100 --> 01:59:15.600 racquet sports is starting to convert to this. 01:59:15.819 --> 01:59:18.640 Really? Tennis? Everybody from tennis is coming 01:59:18.640 --> 01:59:20.399 over. Now I'm talking about professionals. I'm 01:59:20.399 --> 01:59:22.439 talking about people that played in college or 01:59:22.439 --> 01:59:24.380 whatever. Really? And now they're starting to 01:59:24.380 --> 01:59:26.420 come over to this. Miami, they're obsessed. In 01:59:26.420 --> 01:59:28.720 Europe, they're completely obsessed. You go to 01:59:28.720 --> 01:59:31.899 Sweden, there's thousands. Like all, like Cristiano 01:59:31.899 --> 01:59:33.939 Ronaldo and all the soccer guys are all playing 01:59:33.939 --> 01:59:35.840 it. They own the facilities. How the fuck am 01:59:35.840 --> 01:59:37.279 I just finding out about this for the first time? 01:59:37.279 --> 01:59:39.060 You guys got one here. What's it called? They 01:59:39.060 --> 01:59:43.039 just built one? Paddle Club Austin or something. 01:59:43.220 --> 01:59:46.439 Something like that. But it's just, it is, I'm 01:59:46.439 --> 01:59:48.279 upset. Oh, it's just never ending. Dude, I take 01:59:48.279 --> 01:59:50.399 lessons. This guy just ran outside the arena. 01:59:50.619 --> 01:59:53.380 Yeah. That is crazy. But the fact that there's 01:59:53.380 --> 01:59:55.979 hope, the fact is like, it's not just brute strength. 01:59:56.239 --> 01:59:57.739 There's that little guy that was playing on the 01:59:57.739 --> 01:59:59.300 right right there, Chingoto. This guy's like 01:59:59.300 --> 02:00:02.890 five foot three. And he's so skilled. And since 02:00:02.890 --> 02:00:06.770 it's not, he's not in this court. But that guy, 02:00:06.869 --> 02:00:08.829 Tapia, is the best in the world. You know all 02:00:08.829 --> 02:00:11.869 the players? I'm obsessed with this in the way 02:00:11.869 --> 02:00:14.130 that you're obsessed with jujitsu. I can't believe 02:00:14.130 --> 02:00:17.270 I'm just finding out about this right now. I 02:00:17.270 --> 02:00:19.289 got to play with some of these guys. Really? 02:00:19.289 --> 02:00:21.430 And they toy with me. Like, they'll just bring 02:00:21.430 --> 02:00:23.369 me up to the net on drop shots and then bring 02:00:23.369 --> 02:00:25.489 me back to the end. And I'm just running around 02:00:25.489 --> 02:00:27.970 like a little bitch. But it's like, these guys 02:00:27.970 --> 02:00:30.350 to me are like Michael Jordan or like LeBron 02:00:30.350 --> 02:00:32.449 James. Like, I get like giddy around them. I'm 02:00:32.449 --> 02:00:36.500 so excited. And like, I'm telling you, I... I'm 02:00:36.500 --> 02:00:38.300 taking lessons once a week. Shout out my boy 02:00:38.300 --> 02:00:40.220 Lucho in New York, the best fucking instructor 02:00:40.220 --> 02:00:42.140 on the planet right now. He works at Paddle House. 02:00:42.199 --> 02:00:44.439 He's incredible. Wow. You're taking lessons. 02:00:44.640 --> 02:00:46.439 I'm playing three or four times a week. What? 02:00:46.699 --> 02:00:49.800 Yeah. My whole workout regimen is built around 02:00:49.800 --> 02:00:52.020 making sure that my shoulder is okay so I can 02:00:52.020 --> 02:00:56.579 play. Entire dedication to this. The only thing 02:00:56.579 --> 02:00:58.939 I've been obsessed with this about is stand -up 02:00:58.939 --> 02:01:01.420 comedy. Wow. It's the only thing. And I have 02:01:01.420 --> 02:01:03.159 no racquet sport background. I never played tennis 02:01:03.159 --> 02:01:05.220 growing up. I grew up in the city. I went to 02:01:05.220 --> 02:01:07.199 public school. It does look fun. Dude, it's... 02:01:07.199 --> 02:01:09.600 I just can't believe you can run outside. It's 02:01:09.600 --> 02:01:12.659 just... That's so crazy that you run outside. 02:01:12.979 --> 02:01:16.079 The point isn't over. You know what I mean? There's 02:01:16.079 --> 02:01:18.300 always hope. And that's the beauty of... You're 02:01:18.300 --> 02:01:20.500 a really competitive person. When you play against 02:01:20.500 --> 02:01:22.380 someone who's got more strength than you, even 02:01:22.380 --> 02:01:25.000 when I would box and shit like that, somebody 02:01:25.000 --> 02:01:27.960 who was just bad... Eventually, if they can connect, 02:01:28.140 --> 02:01:31.220 it's over. And even in this, in power, you can 02:01:31.220 --> 02:01:33.479 mitigate their power. You can move them around 02:01:33.479 --> 02:01:35.119 the court. There are guys that are way better 02:01:35.119 --> 02:01:36.479 than me at tennis, squash, and all these other 02:01:36.479 --> 02:01:40.359 things. But strategically in this game, if you 02:01:40.359 --> 02:01:44.119 don't hit it out, I got a chance. Wow. You should 02:01:44.119 --> 02:01:46.340 do commentary. Dude, I was telling the guys. 02:01:46.479 --> 02:01:48.640 I literally told the guys. Dude, I was telling 02:01:48.640 --> 02:01:50.739 Wayne, who owns Reserve, man. Shout out, Wayne. 02:01:50.819 --> 02:01:53.140 And I was like, I know you have your guys doing 02:01:53.140 --> 02:01:56.159 it, but like, dude. I am obsessed with this like 02:01:56.159 --> 02:01:59.500 Joe is with the UFC and MMA. You don't need to 02:01:59.500 --> 02:02:01.460 pay me. I just want to talk about the sport. 02:02:01.619 --> 02:02:03.279 I want to build this fucking thing up. How do 02:02:03.279 --> 02:02:06.020 we build this thing up? Wow. I literally thought 02:02:06.020 --> 02:02:07.460 about you. I've never seen you like this before. 02:02:07.460 --> 02:02:10.279 Bro, I get excited. Dude, it drives my wife crazy. 02:02:10.520 --> 02:02:12.579 I go to fucking brunch on a Sunday, and me and 02:02:12.579 --> 02:02:14.680 my boy Jason are just talking about our paddle 02:02:14.680 --> 02:02:17.640 games this week. Oh, no. Dude, my boy Jason just 02:02:17.640 --> 02:02:18.779 hit me up, and he's like, listen, I know you 02:02:18.779 --> 02:02:19.899 got the special and everything going on, but 02:02:19.899 --> 02:02:22.000 my calf is feeling better, so we got a game Wednesday. 02:02:22.199 --> 02:02:24.569 And I'm like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm ready. 02:02:25.529 --> 02:02:28.810 That's crazy. It's just the coolest thing. Wow. 02:02:28.930 --> 02:02:30.989 I know you don't fuck with team sports, but this 02:02:30.989 --> 02:02:33.789 is. It looks fun. It definitely looks fun. It's 02:02:33.789 --> 02:02:36.050 great. It's great. Yeah. Jamie's a little sneaky 02:02:36.050 --> 02:02:38.949 athlete. Oh, Jamie's a good basketball player. 02:02:39.069 --> 02:02:40.750 But even tennis, too. You see Jamie sink threes. 02:02:40.789 --> 02:02:43.810 Yeah, he's sneaky. We had a little fun. You see 02:02:43.810 --> 02:02:47.750 him play golf. He's a motherfucker with the drive. 02:02:47.890 --> 02:02:50.430 He's got that simulator in the back. Oh, in your 02:02:50.430 --> 02:02:52.390 house? What's the furthest? Right here. Right 02:02:52.390 --> 02:02:54.470 here. We have it in the garage. What's the furthest 02:02:54.470 --> 02:02:56.529 you ever whacked one of those on that? I don't 02:02:56.529 --> 02:02:59.090 know. Far. 300 yards. Whatever. Oh, wow. You're 02:02:59.090 --> 02:03:02.649 like a legit. Dude, his swing is legit. You should 02:03:02.649 --> 02:03:05.329 have seen Brian Callen trying to swing after 02:03:05.329 --> 02:03:07.649 Jamie. It was comical because I'm behind him 02:03:07.649 --> 02:03:14.560 talking mad shit. I'm like, you ain't gonna beat 02:03:14.560 --> 02:03:17.659 Jamie, bitch. Bro, the joy that must have come 02:03:17.659 --> 02:03:20.539 to you watching Jamie smoke Callen. Oh, it was 02:03:20.539 --> 02:03:24.560 so much fun. It was so much fun. Anyway, yeah, 02:03:24.699 --> 02:03:28.000 I'm so obsessed with it. That's incredible. Even 02:03:28.000 --> 02:03:30.140 now, just the idea that Paddle has spoken about 02:03:30.140 --> 02:03:32.420 on the Rogan podcast is just crazy. How about 02:03:32.420 --> 02:03:34.279 you told me about it? I never even knew it was 02:03:34.279 --> 02:03:36.279 a thing. If someone brought it up to me, I'd 02:03:36.279 --> 02:03:38.020 be like, that's bullshit. That's not real. Dude, 02:03:38.060 --> 02:03:39.979 it is real. And these guys are starting to make 02:03:39.979 --> 02:03:42.680 money now. The top guys are starting to make 02:03:42.680 --> 02:03:45.199 a decent amount of money. That looks like ESPN 02:03:45.199 --> 02:03:49.220 for sure. Oh, look, I had Kamaru there. Oh! Doesn't 02:03:49.220 --> 02:03:51.000 Kamaru have really fucked up knees? Don't ruin 02:03:51.000 --> 02:03:54.670 his knees, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean... But 02:03:54.670 --> 02:03:56.109 he played pickleball because he's down there 02:03:56.109 --> 02:03:58.529 in Miami. His knees are so fucked up. Yeah, it's 02:03:58.529 --> 02:04:04.069 tricky. I hope that if stem cell technology advances, 02:04:04.250 --> 02:04:08.170 if the FDA finally allows people to have the 02:04:08.170 --> 02:04:10.069 same kind of stem cells in America that they 02:04:10.069 --> 02:04:13.149 do in Colombia and Mexico. Norway or Sweden? 02:04:13.409 --> 02:04:16.970 Where's the other place that they do it? I don't 02:04:16.970 --> 02:04:18.750 know. If you want to get some bougies, if you 02:04:18.750 --> 02:04:22.590 want the white stem cells. I mean, it's like 02:04:22.590 --> 02:04:24.569 Norway that they're harvesting them. Well, the 02:04:24.569 --> 02:04:27.090 places that I know of are the big one is the 02:04:27.090 --> 02:04:29.390 CPI in Tijuana. That's one of the best in the 02:04:29.390 --> 02:04:31.989 world. And that place is they have a partnership 02:04:31.989 --> 02:04:34.069 with the UFC. They send a lot of the athletes. 02:04:34.170 --> 02:04:35.810 Oh, really? And there's another place in Colombia, 02:04:35.989 --> 02:04:38.390 Bio Accelerator. There's an island in the Caribbean 02:04:38.390 --> 02:04:40.210 that they do it, too, that they like bring a 02:04:40.210 --> 02:04:44.590 they bring the they like fly in the medical office 02:04:44.590 --> 02:04:47.149 essentially for the week or two week periods. 02:04:47.670 --> 02:04:50.050 Oh, OK. Yeah. And then they have like stem cells 02:04:50.050 --> 02:04:51.949 that have been harvested in some place. And my 02:04:51.949 --> 02:04:55.029 neighbor did that. So I forget which island it 02:04:55.029 --> 02:04:58.109 is. Well, there's Panama, too. Neil Reardon, 02:04:58.289 --> 02:05:01.310 Dr. Neil Reardon, he's written so many books 02:05:01.310 --> 02:05:02.869 and papers on the benefits of stem cells. Have 02:05:02.869 --> 02:05:04.770 you done the stem cells? I've done a shitload 02:05:04.770 --> 02:05:07.310 of them, yeah. And what is the immediate impact? 02:05:08.239 --> 02:05:11.079 Oh, it heals soft tissue way better than anything 02:05:11.079 --> 02:05:13.279 else that I've ever used before. So like what, 02:05:13.319 --> 02:05:15.420 for example, what injury did you have that you 02:05:15.420 --> 02:05:17.560 felt? The biggest one I've talked about before, 02:05:17.760 --> 02:05:19.340 I apologize if you've heard this before, people, 02:05:19.439 --> 02:05:22.159 I had a rotator cuff tear, a full -length rotator 02:05:22.159 --> 02:05:24.880 cuff tear, and went to a doctor, went to the 02:05:24.880 --> 02:05:27.979 UFC's doctor. They sent me to an orthopedic surgeon. 02:05:28.220 --> 02:05:30.720 He looks at my MRI. You can't believe I can do 02:05:30.720 --> 02:05:32.079 anything. He says, I can't believe you can do 02:05:32.079 --> 02:05:34.159 anything with this shoulder. You have a full 02:05:34.159 --> 02:05:36.359 -length rotator cuff tear. But he does all the 02:05:36.359 --> 02:05:39.039 stuff with me, like push down, push up. And he 02:05:39.039 --> 02:05:42.680 goes, you're pretty functional. He goes, I think 02:05:42.680 --> 02:05:44.460 it's probably because you have a lot of muscle 02:05:44.460 --> 02:05:46.359 around the joint. But you're going to need surgery. 02:05:46.680 --> 02:05:48.039 He goes, you could try to rehab it, but you're 02:05:48.039 --> 02:05:49.560 going to need surgery. I go, really going to 02:05:49.560 --> 02:05:51.819 need surgery? He goes, yeah. I go, am I ruining 02:05:51.819 --> 02:05:53.960 my shoulder by not having surgery? He's like, 02:05:53.979 --> 02:05:57.199 potentially. He's like, try your best rehab. 02:05:57.319 --> 02:05:58.840 Put it off as much as you want, but you're going 02:05:58.840 --> 02:06:01.720 to need surgery. So then I go to Dr. Roddy McGee 02:06:01.720 --> 02:06:04.579 in Vegas. And this was years ago. He's doing 02:06:04.579 --> 02:06:07.840 stem cells with the UFC athletes. He's a bunch 02:06:07.840 --> 02:06:09.140 of different people. He's like, well, we could 02:06:09.140 --> 02:06:11.539 try it. And I think the stem cells I got them 02:06:11.539 --> 02:06:13.699 actually aren't even available anymore because 02:06:13.699 --> 02:06:17.239 they were too good. So they inject it in my shoulder. 02:06:17.340 --> 02:06:18.960 And then after a couple of weeks, it feels pretty 02:06:18.960 --> 02:06:21.619 fucking good. And then I rehab it. I'm doing 02:06:21.619 --> 02:06:23.479 like bands and all sorts of different stuff. 02:06:24.270 --> 02:06:26.130 I get it to the point where it starts feeling 02:06:26.130 --> 02:06:28.529 good. I start light, like light kettlebells, 02:06:28.529 --> 02:06:30.729 feeling pretty good. I go back to him six months 02:06:30.729 --> 02:06:33.310 later. He does an MRI. He says, this is the most 02:06:33.310 --> 02:06:36.130 astounding thing I've ever seen in all my years 02:06:36.130 --> 02:06:38.149 of being an orthopedic surgeon. He goes, that 02:06:38.149 --> 02:06:41.750 tear is gone. Like he just wrote this full length 02:06:41.750 --> 02:06:43.689 rotator cuff tear that was going to need surgery 02:06:43.689 --> 02:06:46.529 doesn't exist anymore. Like when I say like my 02:06:46.529 --> 02:06:49.649 shoulder is better, I mean, it doesn't bother 02:06:49.649 --> 02:06:53.789 me at all. Like at all. I do everything. I hit 02:06:53.789 --> 02:06:58.670 the bag. I do kettlebells with 70 pounds. I do 02:06:58.670 --> 02:07:02.409 swings and curls and cleans and presses. Zero 02:07:02.409 --> 02:07:06.710 pain. Not a one thing like, man, maybe I shouldn't 02:07:06.710 --> 02:07:11.510 be doing this. It feels 100 % normal. And all 02:07:11.510 --> 02:07:14.659 stem cells. Like, I could have got cut with a 02:07:14.659 --> 02:07:16.619 sling. And then you're done. Didn't do any of 02:07:16.619 --> 02:07:18.819 that. I have a shoulder, a little bit of a shoulder 02:07:18.819 --> 02:07:20.819 issue, actually. I'm curious if the stem cells... 02:07:20.819 --> 02:07:23.300 100%. I'll bring you to Ways to Well. It's in 02:07:23.300 --> 02:07:27.659 Austin. Listen, man, they've healed so many people 02:07:27.659 --> 02:07:29.939 that I'm friends with. So many guys that I know. 02:07:30.279 --> 02:07:32.180 Like, minimal scapular movement, I think that 02:07:32.180 --> 02:07:34.239 was the issue. So I was making up for the fact 02:07:34.239 --> 02:07:36.939 that my scapula doesn't move that much with just 02:07:36.939 --> 02:07:39.699 stretching out the muscles around it. Does that 02:07:39.699 --> 02:07:42.159 make sense? So, like, I guess that... The scapula 02:07:42.159 --> 02:07:45.880 is this bone here? The scapula is the one that 02:07:45.880 --> 02:07:47.859 kind of, like, hangs off. Yeah, and, like, that's 02:07:47.859 --> 02:07:50.779 supposed to move up with your arm when you extend 02:07:50.779 --> 02:07:53.560 it. And it was staying there, but I was still 02:07:53.560 --> 02:07:56.220 moving my arm. So I'm stretching all, I guess, 02:07:56.239 --> 02:07:57.960 the muscles or tendons or whatever. What had 02:07:57.960 --> 02:07:59.399 happened to your scapula that made it freeze 02:07:59.399 --> 02:08:01.979 like that? I don't know. I was told that I might 02:08:01.979 --> 02:08:03.600 have, like, a small tear in the rotator cuff. 02:08:03.840 --> 02:08:05.760 Do you hang? Do you ever hang from your hands? 02:08:05.979 --> 02:08:08.300 I mean, I do, like, pull -ups as part of, like, 02:08:08.340 --> 02:08:10.800 my... you know, exercise routine when I'm doing 02:08:10.800 --> 02:08:11.960 any other body. Pull -ups are great exercise, 02:08:12.180 --> 02:08:15.619 but hanging is great for shoulder health. So 02:08:15.619 --> 02:08:20.279 what I do every day for at least a minute, usually 02:08:20.279 --> 02:08:23.159 more, I usually do like a couple of sets of hangs 02:08:23.159 --> 02:08:26.920 before I do anything. I'll do my warm -ups with 02:08:26.920 --> 02:08:29.960 like push -ups and bodyweight squats, and then 02:08:29.960 --> 02:08:32.840 what I do is I chalk up my hands, and I grab 02:08:32.840 --> 02:08:35.319 a hold of the bar, and I just hang. And I just 02:08:35.319 --> 02:08:38.420 try, and I feel my back popping, like it decompresses 02:08:38.420 --> 02:08:40.800 your back. Because your spine, like the weight 02:08:40.800 --> 02:08:43.039 of your hips and your legs is pulling on your 02:08:43.039 --> 02:08:45.560 spine for the first time. Normally, life is pushing 02:08:45.560 --> 02:08:47.659 down on you. Gravity, the weight of your body 02:08:47.659 --> 02:08:49.319 is pushing down. Wow, and now you're using gravity 02:08:49.319 --> 02:08:52.020 to pull it all out. Yes. So I do that. I hang 02:08:52.020 --> 02:08:54.460 that way. And then I also do that dex. We have 02:08:54.460 --> 02:08:57.140 a machine out there. Teeter, the company that 02:08:57.140 --> 02:08:58.779 makes those things where you hang by your ankles. 02:08:58.840 --> 02:09:00.939 Yeah, I've seen it. They have a great one. It's 02:09:00.939 --> 02:09:02.739 called the Dex. I like it better than the ankle 02:09:02.739 --> 02:09:05.640 one where you hinge at the hips and you fall 02:09:05.640 --> 02:09:07.880 forward. And then you just – it's basically like 02:09:07.880 --> 02:09:11.619 your lower body and your hips are carrying – 02:09:11.619 --> 02:09:14.640 like locking your weight in place and you're 02:09:14.640 --> 02:09:17.319 leaning forward. So the full weight of your upper 02:09:17.319 --> 02:09:19.939 body is decompressing your back. And I'll feel 02:09:19.939 --> 02:09:22.239 it going like pop, pop, pop. I'll feel like little 02:09:22.239 --> 02:09:25.119 pops in my back and I stretch it and I move on 02:09:25.119 --> 02:09:28.000 that. thing and it's all just about keeping the 02:09:28.000 --> 02:09:31.739 the spine pliable and keeping the range of motion 02:09:31.739 --> 02:09:33.659 in your spine but also in your shoulder joints 02:09:33.659 --> 02:09:35.300 yeah it's one of the best things for shoulder 02:09:35.300 --> 02:09:37.800 joints is to just hang and i'll hang with one 02:09:37.800 --> 02:09:40.699 arm sometimes i'll hang with both arms yeah but 02:09:40.699 --> 02:09:44.079 i'm just like letting it all stretch out so it 02:09:44.079 --> 02:09:46.699 stretches all your your the mobility of your 02:09:46.699 --> 02:09:50.449 shoulders and Create space in there. It allows 02:09:50.449 --> 02:09:53.369 everything to move freer. And then I'll do my 02:09:53.369 --> 02:09:55.510 chin -ups. So I do my sets of chin -ups, dips, 02:09:55.510 --> 02:09:56.550 pull -ups. So that's your stretch, essentially. 02:09:56.829 --> 02:09:59.590 Yes. Okay, maybe I have to add that in. Yeah. 02:09:59.710 --> 02:10:02.210 I also stretch on a bar where I grab the bar 02:10:02.210 --> 02:10:04.130 and I turn like this and I get it like that. 02:10:04.189 --> 02:10:06.369 And I get like a deep stretch that way and I 02:10:06.369 --> 02:10:08.369 get a deep stretch the other way. I'll do that 02:10:08.369 --> 02:10:10.649 on my back on the ground. You should also do 02:10:10.649 --> 02:10:14.729 these things called crossover symmetry. is these 02:10:14.729 --> 02:10:18.270 bands and they have varying uh resistance like 02:10:18.270 --> 02:10:19.930 different colors or different strength resistance 02:10:19.930 --> 02:10:21.989 you don't even need a lot of resistance the whole 02:10:21.989 --> 02:10:25.050 idea is just you're working the tendons and all 02:10:25.050 --> 02:10:27.149 the connective tissue and it's just doing all 02:10:27.149 --> 02:10:29.810 these like different shoulder exercises and so 02:10:29.810 --> 02:10:32.170 they cross like one is attached to a post over 02:10:32.170 --> 02:10:34.170 here and the other one's here so i'm doing these 02:10:34.170 --> 02:10:36.270 and i'm doing these and i'm doing i'm pinning 02:10:36.270 --> 02:10:38.149 them against my arm and i'm doing it like that 02:10:38.149 --> 02:10:40.149 where i'm just working the rotator cuff muscles 02:10:40.149 --> 02:10:43.649 and just Just to keep everything... You're creating 02:10:43.649 --> 02:10:46.310 the torque on the joint. Yeah. Whereas when you're 02:10:46.310 --> 02:10:48.430 lifting weights, you can kind of manipulate what 02:10:48.430 --> 02:10:50.850 part of your body is lifting. You can, and that's 02:10:50.850 --> 02:10:53.069 how you get injured sometimes too. Yeah, I got 02:10:53.069 --> 02:10:54.810 to do the... Because that's my biggest concern 02:10:54.810 --> 02:10:57.430 right now, to bring it back to your friend. Is 02:10:57.430 --> 02:11:00.649 paddle. How do I play? That's so... Like everything 02:11:00.649 --> 02:11:03.310 I do, I do PT twice a week. Shout out my boy, 02:11:03.329 --> 02:11:04.670 Mike Helgeson. He's fucking great. You do PT 02:11:04.670 --> 02:11:06.590 twice a week? Yeah. It's like I'm lifting, but 02:11:06.590 --> 02:11:08.729 I'm with a guy who is a PT. So if there is an 02:11:08.729 --> 02:11:11.449 issue, we can. Oh, I see. I see. But he'll just 02:11:11.449 --> 02:11:12.829 take me through weightlifting if I'm feeling 02:11:12.829 --> 02:11:14.970 good. And if I'm not, then we're doing some work. 02:11:15.369 --> 02:11:17.689 Have you been able to increase the mobility of 02:11:17.689 --> 02:11:20.229 your scapula? Yes. And my shoulder was fucked 02:11:20.229 --> 02:11:22.970 before and he brought it back. Him and this guy, 02:11:23.029 --> 02:11:25.470 Kyle, were like, don't do surgery. They were 02:11:25.470 --> 02:11:28.130 like, once you do surgery, you're fucked. And 02:11:28.130 --> 02:11:30.310 so let's try to work this thing out by building 02:11:30.310 --> 02:11:33.189 muscle around it, getting mobility into the joint 02:11:33.189 --> 02:11:35.640 and like. They brought the shoulder back. This 02:11:35.640 --> 02:11:36.600 was before I ever played battle. Let me say one 02:11:36.600 --> 02:11:39.739 thing real quick. That's not always true. I know 02:11:39.739 --> 02:11:41.579 a lot of people that have had successful shoulder 02:11:41.579 --> 02:11:44.680 surgery. And in some cases, that's the only thing 02:11:44.680 --> 02:11:47.000 you can do. To save yourself. Yeah. There's like 02:11:47.000 --> 02:11:49.659 Yuri Prohaska, the UFC former light heavyweight 02:11:49.659 --> 02:11:51.640 champion. His shoulder was blown apart. They 02:11:51.640 --> 02:11:53.319 had to put it back together again. They had to. 02:11:53.460 --> 02:11:56.779 And incredibly effective. Yeah. Damn. That Jamal 02:11:56.779 --> 02:11:58.699 Hill fight? Unbelievable. Holy shit. Unbelievable. 02:11:58.899 --> 02:12:02.399 Holy shit. Yeah. So for a situation like that, 02:12:02.520 --> 02:12:06.109 shoulder surgery. This shit was torn apart. You 02:12:06.109 --> 02:12:08.090 can't just heal that with stem cells. But there 02:12:08.090 --> 02:12:09.949 are things you can heal with stem cells. And 02:12:09.949 --> 02:12:13.310 it definitely helps soft tissue injuries in a 02:12:13.310 --> 02:12:16.949 way like nothing else I've ever used. It's legit. 02:12:17.329 --> 02:12:20.590 And Brigham Bueller, who's the CEO of Waste Well, 02:12:20.930 --> 02:12:23.829 he's worked so hard on edge. He's been on this 02:12:23.829 --> 02:12:25.970 podcast a bunch of times and Tucker's podcast, 02:12:26.109 --> 02:12:28.810 a bunch of podcasts, just talking about all these 02:12:28.810 --> 02:12:31.510 different methods that are available that are 02:12:31.510 --> 02:12:34.149 being stifled. by the FDA. And that's the thing. 02:12:34.149 --> 02:12:35.770 It's like once you get something that you're 02:12:35.770 --> 02:12:39.689 addicted to, longevity exercise or regimens or 02:12:39.689 --> 02:12:43.310 whatever it is are very easy to do. Because you're 02:12:43.310 --> 02:12:44.949 not really doing them so you can live to 100. 02:12:45.250 --> 02:12:47.670 You're like, how do I play this thing next week? 02:12:47.829 --> 02:12:50.890 Right. And all the motivation comes from it. 02:12:50.949 --> 02:12:53.529 It's really simple. Like, I actually can't wait 02:12:53.529 --> 02:12:55.750 to go do the PT, whatever it is, because I'm 02:12:55.750 --> 02:12:57.130 like, okay, I have a game Wednesday and I want 02:12:57.130 --> 02:12:58.909 to be good to play. It sounds ridiculous. I'm 02:12:58.909 --> 02:13:01.310 41. I'm not going pro at this thing. But I love 02:13:01.310 --> 02:13:03.930 it so much that I would literally, I'm looking 02:13:03.930 --> 02:13:07.550 up the fucking BPC 157. I'm like, do I need to 02:13:07.550 --> 02:13:09.470 put, yeah, the Wolverine shit that they say, 02:13:09.550 --> 02:13:11.720 right? And it's like, do I get that? so I can 02:13:11.720 --> 02:13:14.359 recover faster. Yeah, get that. Have you tried 02:13:14.359 --> 02:13:16.680 that? It's legit. Super legit. I recommended 02:13:16.680 --> 02:13:18.359 it to a buddy with no research. I was like, you 02:13:18.359 --> 02:13:19.760 should do this. And then a couple weeks later, 02:13:19.840 --> 02:13:21.840 he's like, I'm on it. And I was like, did you 02:13:21.840 --> 02:13:24.659 look up it? I'm not a doctor or anything. But 02:13:24.659 --> 02:13:30.020 he said he did it for his, he got an ACL surgery 02:13:30.020 --> 02:13:34.039 and his doctor, he asked about it and his doctor 02:13:34.039 --> 02:13:36.770 goes, I take it. Well, that's a good doctor because 02:13:36.770 --> 02:13:38.750 I've had friends where I tell them about their 02:13:38.750 --> 02:13:40.710 doctors. Oh, you shouldn't do that. There's no 02:13:40.710 --> 02:13:42.869 studies. That's the thing. I feel like there's 02:13:42.869 --> 02:13:44.989 like old guard guys. They're a little bit hesitant 02:13:44.989 --> 02:13:47.470 to use some of the maybe newer technology. And 02:13:47.470 --> 02:13:48.890 I'm sure they have their reasons. I don't know 02:13:48.890 --> 02:13:51.289 more than them about the science. But there are 02:13:51.289 --> 02:13:53.029 these new technologies that can maybe extend 02:13:53.029 --> 02:13:56.189 our playing age. Again, I don't need to be a 02:13:56.189 --> 02:13:59.760 pro, but I love. this thing and i want to do 02:13:59.760 --> 02:14:02.420 it as much as i can i want to get as good as 02:14:02.420 --> 02:14:04.579 i possibly can yeah it feels good to be getting 02:14:04.579 --> 02:14:06.779 better at something at this age well let me tell 02:14:06.779 --> 02:14:09.500 you something there's a reason why usada uh didn't 02:14:09.500 --> 02:14:11.500 let people use in the ufc and now drug free sport 02:14:11.500 --> 02:14:13.840 also doesn't let people use in the ufc it's because 02:14:13.840 --> 02:14:17.399 it works Wait a minute. Why would they not? Wouldn't 02:14:17.399 --> 02:14:18.979 wouldn't it be advantageous for the athletes? 02:14:19.020 --> 02:14:21.899 Exactly. It's really stupid. But the idea is 02:14:21.899 --> 02:14:24.420 that it's performance enhancing because it lets 02:14:24.420 --> 02:14:26.859 you heal quicker. So heal from injuries quicker, 02:14:26.960 --> 02:14:29.399 potentially heal from recovering from training 02:14:29.399 --> 02:14:32.479 quicker. And what would their argument? I mean, 02:14:32.520 --> 02:14:34.039 the only argument I've heard is like it increases. 02:14:34.300 --> 02:14:37.340 Well, the idea is like keep everybody on a completely 02:14:37.340 --> 02:14:41.239 level playing field. How do you do that? No one's 02:14:41.239 --> 02:14:44.020 able to take anything. You can't take any performance 02:14:44.020 --> 02:14:45.239 -enhancing substances. Or make it accessible 02:14:45.239 --> 02:14:46.840 to all athletes that are in the UFC. Well, I 02:14:46.840 --> 02:14:48.680 think that's the right way to do it. But the 02:14:48.680 --> 02:14:51.420 problem is that, okay, what peptides are we talking 02:14:51.420 --> 02:14:54.180 about? What about things like HCG, which radically 02:14:54.180 --> 02:14:56.199 increase testosterone production? Are you allowed 02:14:56.199 --> 02:14:57.979 to do that? Okay, because if you're allowed to 02:14:57.979 --> 02:15:01.159 do that, what level is that steroid? Only recovery. 02:15:01.399 --> 02:15:04.920 I think any recovery drug. Obviously, there's 02:15:04.920 --> 02:15:06.460 risks to all this. You increase cell growth, 02:15:06.539 --> 02:15:08.159 and if you have cancer, God forbid, in your body, 02:15:08.239 --> 02:15:09.560 those cells are going to grow as well, right? 02:15:09.659 --> 02:15:11.560 There's an argument for that, but I think the 02:15:11.560 --> 02:15:14.340 real argument is what's causing cancer, right? 02:15:14.460 --> 02:15:17.279 The real argument is eliminating environmental 02:15:17.279 --> 02:15:19.880 toxins and the issues. Also, there's people that 02:15:19.880 --> 02:15:22.020 have genetic predispositions to cancer, unfortunately. 02:15:22.600 --> 02:15:25.380 But the real reality about cancer is, unfortunately, 02:15:25.560 --> 02:15:28.640 what you take into your body has a significant 02:15:28.640 --> 02:15:32.000 effect. Your diet has a significant effect. Exercise 02:15:32.000 --> 02:15:35.779 has a significant effect. And also, do you participate 02:15:35.779 --> 02:15:38.880 in any recovery activities like sauna, which 02:15:38.880 --> 02:15:41.920 is huge. They did a study out of Finland. Again, 02:15:41.979 --> 02:15:44.720 I apologize if you've heard this before. It was 02:15:44.720 --> 02:15:47.779 a 20 -year study. They found people who use sauna 02:15:47.779 --> 02:15:51.380 for four days a week had a 40 % decrease in all 02:15:51.380 --> 02:15:55.159 -cause mortality. All -cause, meaning heart attack, 02:15:55.300 --> 02:15:59.420 stroke, cancer, you name it. Yeah. 40 % decrease 02:15:59.420 --> 02:16:03.390 just because of the effects of sauna. How did 02:16:03.390 --> 02:16:07.609 they test that? What is the term? The something 02:16:07.609 --> 02:16:10.289 group? Well, this is what they did. They did 02:16:10.289 --> 02:16:13.850 this randomized control trial. So they did this 02:16:13.850 --> 02:16:17.489 study where they took these people and sauna 02:16:17.489 --> 02:16:19.710 use in Finland is everywhere. Everybody uses 02:16:19.710 --> 02:16:24.579 a sauna. did it based on these questionnaires. 02:16:24.619 --> 02:16:27.180 Do you do the sauna once a week? Do you sauna 02:16:27.180 --> 02:16:29.079 twice a week? What temperature do you do the 02:16:29.079 --> 02:16:31.479 sauna, and how long do you do it for? And they 02:16:31.479 --> 02:16:33.680 determined that the people that did the sauna 02:16:33.680 --> 02:16:37.319 four times a week for 20 minutes at 175 degrees 02:16:37.319 --> 02:16:40.940 had a 40 % decrease in all -cause mortality. 02:16:41.280 --> 02:16:44.219 Now, when you drop the number of sessions, you 02:16:44.219 --> 02:16:47.920 also drop the all -cause mortality survival. 02:16:48.280 --> 02:16:51.909 Got it. So it's like 20 % at... once a week, 02:16:52.030 --> 02:16:56.030 30%. So it's like that. Measurable differences 02:16:56.030 --> 02:16:59.610 in the amount of people that were healthy and 02:16:59.610 --> 02:17:02.649 robust who did it four times a week. Yeah. I 02:17:02.649 --> 02:17:04.989 mean, that's interesting because the easiest 02:17:04.989 --> 02:17:06.649 way to discredit would be like, well, yeah, the 02:17:06.649 --> 02:17:09.629 people that do saunas want to increase their 02:17:09.629 --> 02:17:11.750 life. But what you're saying is there's an increased 02:17:11.750 --> 02:17:17.260 amount of assistance if you do it more. The benefits 02:17:17.260 --> 02:17:20.920 are legitimate, real, measurable. It's hermetic 02:17:20.920 --> 02:17:24.459 stress. It's heat shock proteins your body produces 02:17:24.459 --> 02:17:26.420 to deal with the fact that you're essentially 02:17:26.420 --> 02:17:30.959 dying. You can't stay. I do it at 196. You can't 02:17:30.959 --> 02:17:33.600 stay there very long. I do 25 minutes at 196. 02:17:34.059 --> 02:17:37.139 Have you ever passed out in it? No. Okay. Is 02:17:37.139 --> 02:17:42.350 that a thing people do? I don't know. Get out 02:17:42.350 --> 02:17:46.489 the smelling salts. I stay awake. No, you could, 02:17:46.569 --> 02:17:48.510 though. Yeah, I mean, if you are the type of 02:17:48.510 --> 02:17:50.889 person who passes out, you've got issues. Yeah. 02:17:51.479 --> 02:17:54.059 Yeah. Some people pass out just from stress. 02:17:54.379 --> 02:17:57.059 Yeah. I watched a kid black out the other night 02:17:57.059 --> 02:17:58.399 at one of these school things that my kid had 02:17:58.399 --> 02:18:01.079 to go to. Really? Some boy fainted on stage. 02:18:01.299 --> 02:18:04.680 Wow. Yeah. Sometimes people just, sometimes they 02:18:04.680 --> 02:18:07.360 just, your brain goes, too much. Check, please. 02:18:07.600 --> 02:18:11.659 I've seen like, not passed out, but like I was 02:18:11.659 --> 02:18:14.879 having like breathing issues. I didn't understand 02:18:14.879 --> 02:18:17.040 what the fuck it was. And, like, my wife and 02:18:17.040 --> 02:18:18.760 I were trying to get pregnant. It was, like, 02:18:18.780 --> 02:18:20.819 really difficult because my sperm sucks. And 02:18:20.819 --> 02:18:24.459 I would have, like, I guess it was stress -related. 02:18:24.600 --> 02:18:26.120 I didn't know what the fuck it was. Like, I went 02:18:26.120 --> 02:18:27.639 to a doctor and I was like, I feel like I can't 02:18:27.639 --> 02:18:30.000 catch my breath. And I started doing these, like, 02:18:30.040 --> 02:18:32.420 it's like a Navy SEAL breathing technique or 02:18:32.420 --> 02:18:34.319 whatever. Box breathing? Box breathing, yeah. 02:18:34.680 --> 02:18:36.860 And I would try to do that. I mean, it was so 02:18:36.860 --> 02:18:39.440 weird. It wouldn't affect me on stage because... 02:18:39.840 --> 02:18:41.799 Once I'm on stage, I'm like locked into the performance. 02:18:41.899 --> 02:18:43.559 And that's how I knew it was all psychological. 02:18:44.079 --> 02:18:46.059 But like when I was off stage, there were times 02:18:46.059 --> 02:18:47.479 where I'd be at the cellar and I'd have to leave 02:18:47.479 --> 02:18:49.379 the cellar and there's this little park on 6th 02:18:49.379 --> 02:18:52.139 Avenue that's like not even really a park, but 02:18:52.139 --> 02:18:53.840 there's like benches. And I would just sit there 02:18:53.840 --> 02:18:55.959 and I would just fucking box breathe by myself 02:18:55.959 --> 02:18:58.879 trying to get a full breath. And I'd go to this 02:18:58.879 --> 02:19:00.120 doctor and I was like, what the fuck is it? And 02:19:00.120 --> 02:19:03.979 it was a stress -induced asphyxiation or something 02:19:03.979 --> 02:19:07.209 like that. Wow. And I was just so like... What 02:19:07.209 --> 02:19:10.030 was so stressful to you at that moment? We couldn't 02:19:10.030 --> 02:19:11.770 get pregnant. I found out my sperm sucked. Oh, 02:19:11.770 --> 02:19:14.690 so it was that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. See, that's 02:19:14.690 --> 02:19:17.729 where HCG comes in, actually, because that's 02:19:17.729 --> 02:19:19.750 one of those peptides that actually increases 02:19:19.750 --> 02:19:22.930 your sperm production. Yeah, well, my sperm wasn't 02:19:22.930 --> 02:19:26.090 swimming. That was the issue. Got to get those 02:19:26.090 --> 02:19:30.979 bitches in the pool. Cold punch. That helps, 02:19:30.979 --> 02:19:32.840 too. That's supposed to be good for your nuts. 02:19:33.000 --> 02:19:34.799 Bro, I hit up Huberman. Heat's the worst, apparently. 02:19:34.799 --> 02:19:37.200 Well, they said heat and cold. I hit up Huberman, 02:19:37.260 --> 02:19:38.459 and I was like, yeah, what should I do? And he's 02:19:38.459 --> 02:19:40.159 like, all right, take these pills. And then the 02:19:40.159 --> 02:19:43.520 doctors even tell me they're like, take these 02:19:43.520 --> 02:19:46.659 pills, and then also - You got lazy jizz, bro. 02:19:46.819 --> 02:19:49.299 Dude, I got the laziest fucking jizz, bro. No, 02:19:49.399 --> 02:19:51.239 you just wait for it. I go, I got to take the 02:19:51.239 --> 02:19:52.500 pills. They're like, don't drink. I'm like, okay, 02:19:52.559 --> 02:19:53.479 I'm not going to drink. They're like, don't smoke. 02:19:53.579 --> 02:19:56.100 Okay, I'm not going to smoke. They go, wear baggy 02:19:56.100 --> 02:19:58.440 underwear. And they're like, ice your balls once 02:19:58.440 --> 02:20:01.399 a day. Holla. So I do that for a month. I go 02:20:01.399 --> 02:20:03.100 get, or two months, I go get my sperm tested 02:20:03.100 --> 02:20:06.799 again. It got worse. Really? Yeah. And they're 02:20:06.799 --> 02:20:08.459 like, we haven't even fucking seen this. And 02:20:08.459 --> 02:20:12.280 yeah, so we had to do IVF and everything. That's 02:20:12.280 --> 02:20:14.260 what the special is about. It's just the story 02:20:14.260 --> 02:20:16.159 of us trying to get pregnant. There was a study, 02:20:16.299 --> 02:20:19.360 I think it was out of Japan. And what they were 02:20:19.360 --> 02:20:23.379 doing was they were getting people to cold plunge 02:20:23.379 --> 02:20:26.959 before exercise. So you cold plunge for three 02:20:26.959 --> 02:20:30.180 minutes, and then you exercise, and you force 02:20:30.180 --> 02:20:32.559 your body to heat up while you're working out. 02:20:33.799 --> 02:20:35.940 Massive increase in testosterone. Interesting. 02:20:35.940 --> 02:20:40.620 To the point where this one guy, he got his prostate 02:20:40.620 --> 02:20:42.879 levels checked, and his doctor was like, this 02:20:42.879 --> 02:20:46.579 is... this is concerning yeah like uh we want 02:20:46.579 --> 02:20:48.500 to do this we want to do that we want to put 02:20:48.500 --> 02:20:50.020 you on this and put you on that and the guy says 02:20:50.020 --> 02:20:52.440 you know there's this this is an article that's 02:20:52.440 --> 02:20:54.319 available online this one guy tried this he goes 02:20:54.319 --> 02:20:56.200 okay well let me find out what's available online 02:20:56.200 --> 02:20:59.959 yeah so he he finds out cold plunging does it 02:20:59.959 --> 02:21:03.180 yeah and then So this is the thing. Japanese 02:21:03.180 --> 02:21:05.100 cold -plunge study, often referenced, discussed 02:21:05.100 --> 02:21:07.700 about immersing the wrist in cold water before 02:21:07.700 --> 02:21:09.459 exercise significantly increased testosterone 02:21:09.459 --> 02:21:12.459 levels in young Japanese men compared to immersing 02:21:12.459 --> 02:21:15.180 it after exercise, which suppressed testosterone 02:21:15.180 --> 02:21:17.159 levels, highlighting the importance of timing 02:21:17.159 --> 02:21:20.219 when using cold stimulation for potential hormonal 02:21:20.219 --> 02:21:24.200 benefits. So what this guy did was he plunged, 02:21:24.200 --> 02:21:27.479 not just the wrist, and then went to the doctor 02:21:27.479 --> 02:21:29.780 months later, and the doctor thought he was on 02:21:29.780 --> 02:21:32.590 hormones. The doctor's like, you have 1 ,100 02:21:32.590 --> 02:21:35.110 testosterone. This is crazy. Like, what's going 02:21:35.110 --> 02:21:37.930 on? And he tells them, I've been cold plunging 02:21:37.930 --> 02:21:40.510 before I lift weights. And the doctor's like, 02:21:40.709 --> 02:21:42.430 well, keep fucking doing that. Doing that, yeah. 02:21:42.690 --> 02:21:45.610 And so I do that now. Really? Yeah, I know a 02:21:45.610 --> 02:21:47.370 lot of people that do that now. This is how they 02:21:47.370 --> 02:21:49.770 start their workout. My workout starts with a 02:21:49.770 --> 02:21:53.110 cold plunge. So my issue wasn't even the T. They 02:21:53.110 --> 02:21:55.290 were like, yeah, your T levels are good. It's 02:21:55.290 --> 02:21:56.969 just the swimmers. It was the swimmers. And then 02:21:56.969 --> 02:21:58.770 they were like shaped weird. Like, I mean, it's 02:21:58.770 --> 02:22:01.389 just like, bro. Yeah, it was, bro. No, dude, 02:22:01.430 --> 02:22:03.809 it was, I mean, it was too funny. I told the 02:22:03.809 --> 02:22:05.809 guy, I mean, this is, I don't even do this in 02:22:05.809 --> 02:22:09.010 the special, but like I, they were like, the 02:22:09.010 --> 02:22:11.110 shape is a little off or whatever. And I was, 02:22:11.149 --> 02:22:14.389 you're so defensive. I go, well, maybe when they 02:22:14.389 --> 02:22:19.329 hit the cup. So hard. I'm still trying to like, 02:22:19.389 --> 02:22:21.549 I got an ego about it. I'm like, bro, you should 02:22:21.549 --> 02:22:24.549 have seen the way they fucking, it's a car crash 02:22:24.549 --> 02:22:28.590 over here. It's coming in at 400 PSI. But it 02:22:28.590 --> 02:22:31.129 was crazy. Once we got pregnant, it went away. 02:22:31.290 --> 02:22:34.790 And it was like, immediately went away. I could 02:22:34.790 --> 02:22:36.510 breathe again. And it wasn't this feeling that 02:22:36.510 --> 02:22:38.809 I couldn't breathe. It was about catching a full 02:22:38.809 --> 02:22:41.149 breath. Or, you know, when you're like running 02:22:41.149 --> 02:22:43.329 and at the end of your, you're doing like a hard 02:22:43.329 --> 02:22:45.409 cardio intensive exercise, this idea, like you 02:22:45.409 --> 02:22:47.889 can't get to a hundred percent in your lungs. 02:22:48.450 --> 02:22:51.969 And I never had experience in my life. Like I 02:22:51.969 --> 02:22:55.069 can, I can work pretty hard. Like I feel like 02:22:55.069 --> 02:22:56.790 maybe that's a competitive advantage of mine. 02:22:56.850 --> 02:22:58.629 Like I might not be the most skilled in certain 02:22:58.629 --> 02:23:01.069 things, but like I can, I can go, I have a good 02:23:01.069 --> 02:23:02.870 motor. I can fucking push it. And it was the 02:23:02.870 --> 02:23:05.430 first time in my life where like a psychological 02:23:05.430 --> 02:23:10.430 issue. affected my body physically i didn't even 02:23:10.430 --> 02:23:14.270 know that that was possible and uh i know that 02:23:14.270 --> 02:23:15.989 that's having a lot of people i know that got 02:23:15.989 --> 02:23:18.209 canceled people that got canceled where they 02:23:18.209 --> 02:23:20.350 were just overwhelmed where they didn't couldn't 02:23:20.350 --> 02:23:22.149 breathe and they didn't think that they could 02:23:22.149 --> 02:23:24.270 make it they were like i can't do this oh because 02:23:24.270 --> 02:23:25.909 they were going through that they were going 02:23:25.909 --> 02:23:27.690 through it like in the heart of it yeah like 02:23:27.690 --> 02:23:30.450 you got to call up check up on them yeah make 02:23:30.450 --> 02:23:33.430 sure they're okay i remember tony when i i remember 02:23:33.430 --> 02:23:36.389 the fork in the road i remember what the The 02:23:36.389 --> 02:23:38.870 curve I was driving on when I was talking on 02:23:38.870 --> 02:23:40.950 the phone to Tony when he was going through his 02:23:40.950 --> 02:23:45.270 first one. And he's like, this is not good, man. 02:23:45.329 --> 02:23:47.930 I'm not doing good. And I'm like, fuck, man. 02:23:48.129 --> 02:23:50.950 And that was the moment where I was like, please 02:23:50.950 --> 02:23:53.110 don't kill yourself. Oh, wow. You're going to 02:23:53.110 --> 02:23:55.750 get better. You're going to be fine. I didn't 02:23:55.750 --> 02:23:57.290 say that. But that's what you're thinking. That's 02:23:57.290 --> 02:23:59.389 what I was thinking. I remember being in my car 02:23:59.389 --> 02:24:02.889 going, ooh. Like, hearing him on the phone. We 02:24:02.889 --> 02:24:04.969 were on speakerphone. I was like, fuck, man. 02:24:05.190 --> 02:24:06.450 Well, yeah, you dedicate your entire life to 02:24:06.450 --> 02:24:08.950 one thing. But it's also, it's just like feeling 02:24:08.950 --> 02:24:11.530 like it's over. Everything's over. Your career's 02:24:11.530 --> 02:24:13.709 over. Your life is over, as you know. One stupid 02:24:13.709 --> 02:24:16.409 thing, and now it's over forever. And just the... 02:24:17.319 --> 02:24:19.340 You can't breathe. Yeah. You can't breathe. Yeah. 02:24:19.340 --> 02:24:21.840 I get it. And, you know, Tony's tough. He's resilient. 02:24:22.079 --> 02:24:23.959 Yeah. He got through it pretty quick and he was 02:24:23.959 --> 02:24:25.899 back and then, you know, a couple weeks later 02:24:25.899 --> 02:24:28.340 he was laughing about it. Yeah. But some people, 02:24:28.459 --> 02:24:31.319 you know, they get wrecked and they're not the 02:24:31.319 --> 02:24:33.739 same ever again. I think that does happen to 02:24:33.739 --> 02:24:35.479 people. And then there's a different version 02:24:35.479 --> 02:24:37.940 of them afterwards. Yeah. Because they don't 02:24:37.940 --> 02:24:41.700 want to experience that again. It is weird. Like, 02:24:41.719 --> 02:24:44.030 I'm not as affected by... that kind of stuff 02:24:44.030 --> 02:24:46.389 now maybe i haven't gone through on that level 02:24:46.389 --> 02:24:48.530 but and i also think there's something about 02:24:48.530 --> 02:24:51.149 having a kid like i just care less about the 02:24:51.149 --> 02:24:53.530 like i care very the very few people i care what 02:24:53.530 --> 02:24:56.409 they think about me it's like really liberating 02:24:56.409 --> 02:25:00.229 in a lot of ways you know right but um but yeah 02:25:00.229 --> 02:25:02.829 there was something about like like are we not 02:25:02.829 --> 02:25:04.409 gonna be able to get pregnant and then like feeling 02:25:05.510 --> 02:25:07.829 You feel horrible. I also you start like going 02:25:07.829 --> 02:25:10.190 Why would God not want me to have a kid like 02:25:10.190 --> 02:25:11.909 did I do something bad? Like you start thinking 02:25:11.909 --> 02:25:13.670 like if there's some sort of karmic reason for 02:25:13.670 --> 02:25:17.170 that shit Also before I knew it was me. I don't 02:25:17.170 --> 02:25:18.709 want to share with anybody It's really isolating 02:25:18.709 --> 02:25:20.389 because I thought it was my wife like everybody 02:25:20.389 --> 02:25:22.329 always thinks it's the woman who's got a fucking 02:25:22.329 --> 02:25:25.040 problem with their eggs or whatever and That's 02:25:25.040 --> 02:25:27.659 such a bitch -ass dude thing. No, that's what 02:25:27.659 --> 02:25:29.520 we think, because we don't know it could be us. 02:25:29.959 --> 02:25:32.079 When did you ever, like, every time I looked 02:25:32.079 --> 02:25:33.000 at my sperm, it was fire. It's such an arrogant 02:25:33.000 --> 02:25:35.139 male thing. It couldn't be me. It can't be me. 02:25:35.600 --> 02:25:37.540 Look at the amount of fucking jizz I'm producing. 02:25:37.540 --> 02:25:39.959 Yeah, I'm killing it, right? Killing it. Literally. 02:25:40.500 --> 02:25:43.719 And then you think about it, and I will say this, 02:25:43.719 --> 02:25:48.209 though, like, finding out that it was me. And 02:25:48.209 --> 02:25:49.729 being able to, I felt more comfortable talking 02:25:49.729 --> 02:25:51.329 about it on stage because now I'm not talking 02:25:51.329 --> 02:25:53.409 about this incredibly embarrassing thing to this 02:25:53.409 --> 02:25:55.069 woman who does not want to be in entertainment 02:25:55.069 --> 02:25:58.610 at all, like the most private person. About me, 02:25:58.629 --> 02:26:00.030 I was like, oh, I can talk about this a little 02:26:00.030 --> 02:26:01.729 bit. And being able to talk about it on stage, 02:26:01.809 --> 02:26:03.790 and I would talk about it on stage, and there 02:26:03.790 --> 02:26:05.229 would be these dudes that would come up to me 02:26:05.229 --> 02:26:06.909 after shows, and they wouldn't admit they were 02:26:06.909 --> 02:26:08.670 going through it, but they'd be like, yo, that 02:26:08.670 --> 02:26:10.329 was really funny, bro. Like, yeah, you should 02:26:10.329 --> 02:26:13.440 keep talking about that shit. And then... I would 02:26:13.440 --> 02:26:16.040 like talk about on tour and I get these fucking 02:26:16.040 --> 02:26:18.799 DMs and like all these people would start telling 02:26:18.799 --> 02:26:21.139 me that they're going through IVF and like even 02:26:21.139 --> 02:26:23.200 close friends start to be like yo actually that's 02:26:23.200 --> 02:26:25.799 how we got pregnant and I didn't realize it was 02:26:25.799 --> 02:26:29.579 this this like almost like last taboo thing where 02:26:29.579 --> 02:26:32.860 there's this incredible isolation because you 02:26:32.860 --> 02:26:34.399 don't want to feel the judgment there's all this 02:26:34.399 --> 02:26:35.819 pressure and obviously you have a family you 02:26:35.819 --> 02:26:37.600 don't feel like you're the person that's like 02:26:37.600 --> 02:26:40.510 stopping that but I didn't realize. And I'm 40. 02:26:40.590 --> 02:26:42.270 So a lot of older people are probably going through 02:26:42.270 --> 02:26:45.389 this. Maybe young people are not. But like everybody 02:26:45.389 --> 02:26:47.889 in my immediate circle going through this shit. 02:26:47.969 --> 02:26:50.049 Let me ask you this. Like, first of all, when 02:26:50.049 --> 02:26:56.770 did IVF become available to people? And how many 02:26:56.770 --> 02:27:00.270 people a year do you think use IVF? And if they 02:27:00.270 --> 02:27:02.670 didn't, how many less people would there be on 02:27:02.670 --> 02:27:04.909 Earth? Brother, brother, brother. This is like 02:27:04.909 --> 02:27:06.149 there were three things when I talked to Trump 02:27:06.149 --> 02:27:07.670 that I wanted to ask him about specifically. 02:27:08.360 --> 02:27:11.739 And one of them was securing IVF, because I know 02:27:11.739 --> 02:27:13.959 a lot of people who are against abortion also 02:27:13.959 --> 02:27:16.399 look at IVF and like, OK, you're throwing out 02:27:16.399 --> 02:27:19.299 embryos, you're killing people or potential people, 02:27:19.379 --> 02:27:23.340 and they want to use the anti -abortion argument 02:27:23.340 --> 02:27:26.459 to get rid of IVF. Really? Is that a thing? Yeah, 02:27:26.500 --> 02:27:28.659 of course. It's happening now. And what Trump 02:27:28.659 --> 02:27:32.470 said on the pod— Who's trying to ban that? I 02:27:32.470 --> 02:27:34.090 guess we could look that up. I think that it 02:27:34.090 --> 02:27:36.409 was in – there's a few states that it was happening 02:27:36.409 --> 02:27:38.829 in. That seems insane. Yeah. Why would you not 02:27:38.829 --> 02:27:41.350 want more people? Well, they look at it as killing 02:27:41.350 --> 02:27:43.629 people because life starts at conception and 02:27:43.629 --> 02:27:46.069 the embryo is essentially conception, which I 02:27:46.069 --> 02:27:48.950 understand your logic. I don't disagree with 02:27:48.950 --> 02:27:51.190 the logic behind that. But at the same time, 02:27:51.250 --> 02:27:55.010 that is the way that – the only way some people 02:27:55.010 --> 02:27:59.409 can get pregnant. I will give it a Senate Republicans 02:27:59.409 --> 02:28:02.389 block IVF bills. Democrats elevate issue ahead 02:28:02.389 --> 02:28:04.829 of November election. But what I'll say is Trump 02:28:04.829 --> 02:28:06.659 said that. they're going to back it with the 02:28:06.659 --> 02:28:08.639 full power of the Republican Party and that anybody 02:28:08.639 --> 02:28:10.540 that goes against it, that they would campaign 02:28:10.540 --> 02:28:12.659 against. And then he even signed that executive 02:28:12.659 --> 02:28:14.760 order to expand it. He wants to expand access 02:28:14.760 --> 02:28:17.020 to it. Oh, that's great. Which is fucking, yeah, 02:28:17.120 --> 02:28:18.260 it's incredible. Well, for people that want to 02:28:18.260 --> 02:28:20.719 be parents, man, I know quite a few people like 02:28:20.719 --> 02:28:23.000 yourself, they want to be parents so bad, and 02:28:23.000 --> 02:28:24.379 that gave them the ability, and now they're so 02:28:24.379 --> 02:28:26.040 happy. And it's the most incredible thing in 02:28:26.040 --> 02:28:27.719 the world. Yeah, and if they don't do that, guess 02:28:27.719 --> 02:28:29.780 what? There's no babies. No babies. It's like 02:28:29.780 --> 02:28:33.000 more life will occur if you allow this. Also, 02:28:33.040 --> 02:28:35.079 we've got to deal with the downstream. I'm sure 02:28:35.079 --> 02:28:37.239 some of this shit is probably it might me. It 02:28:37.239 --> 02:28:38.520 just might be genetic. I don't fucking know. 02:28:38.559 --> 02:28:40.760 But maybe it's microplastics all in my balls. 02:28:40.920 --> 02:28:43.000 Maybe it's my phone. Like there's a lot of things 02:28:43.000 --> 02:28:45.059 that are not in our control that are negatively 02:28:45.059 --> 02:28:46.959 impacting us. And then to restrict our ability 02:28:46.959 --> 02:28:48.959 to have a family. Sure. I feel like it's kind 02:28:48.959 --> 02:28:52.799 of unfair. You like bestowed this thing upon 02:28:52.799 --> 02:28:55.760 me. It has affected our ability or some woman's 02:28:55.760 --> 02:28:57.600 ability. I wonder if it's like more prevalent 02:28:57.600 --> 02:29:00.500 the issue or the necessity of it with people 02:29:00.500 --> 02:29:02.899 that live in cities. Oh, dude. Every time a car 02:29:02.899 --> 02:29:06.120 breaks. Yeah. The amount of microplastics that 02:29:06.120 --> 02:29:08.200 go into the world are way more than using like 02:29:08.200 --> 02:29:10.299 a plastic bottle to drink out of. Yeah, brake 02:29:10.299 --> 02:29:13.280 dust. Yeah. Yeah, it's particulates. Absolutely. 02:29:13.340 --> 02:29:14.799 That's the shit that you wipe off your wheels 02:29:14.799 --> 02:29:16.379 when you clean your car? No, never. That stuff's 02:29:16.379 --> 02:29:18.219 in the air. You never washed your car? Nope. 02:29:18.500 --> 02:29:20.739 Jesus Christ. Yeah. I mean, I didn't have a car 02:29:20.739 --> 02:29:22.729 until like a year ago. What do you got now? Got 02:29:22.729 --> 02:29:24.709 anything good? No, nothing. Well, I got a fun 02:29:24.709 --> 02:29:28.170 one. I got a Suzuki Samurai. It's the coolest 02:29:28.170 --> 02:29:30.049 fucking car on the planet. Those are fun. They're 02:29:30.049 --> 02:29:33.010 so cool. That's a good car to park in the city, 02:29:33.049 --> 02:29:34.489 too. You don't give a fuck what happens to that 02:29:34.489 --> 02:29:36.149 thing. Well, I got it out in the Hamptons. What 02:29:36.149 --> 02:29:40.409 year is it? It's 87. That's such a piece of shit. 02:29:40.510 --> 02:29:43.319 Oh, it's a piece of shit, but it is like... It's 02:29:43.319 --> 02:29:46.040 also just so fun. I'm not trying to compete with 02:29:46.040 --> 02:29:47.799 you on having a fancy car or whatever like that. 02:29:47.860 --> 02:29:49.620 I just love how fucking rugged. I don't care. 02:29:49.680 --> 02:29:51.340 You got some dough. I'm going to turn you on 02:29:51.340 --> 02:29:53.260 to some fucking fun rides. You know the good 02:29:53.260 --> 02:29:55.760 shit. Yeah, you got to learn the appreciation 02:29:55.760 --> 02:29:58.559 of cars. I got my face. Yeah, there it is. Oh, 02:29:58.600 --> 02:30:00.379 there are the boys. Look at that thing. Look 02:30:00.379 --> 02:30:03.139 at the boys. That thing's fun. Oh, yeah. Look 02:30:03.139 --> 02:30:04.600 at these guys. What a cute little car. Isn't 02:30:04.600 --> 02:30:06.139 it adorable? I wouldn't take that thing around 02:30:06.139 --> 02:30:08.069 the block. But wait, you're saying you wouldn't 02:30:08.069 --> 02:30:11.649 get in that car with six guys? Yeah, I'd go with 02:30:11.649 --> 02:30:13.110 you guys. Shouldn't that be on the cover of every 02:30:13.110 --> 02:30:16.889 gay magazine? It should be. Like, if you take 02:30:16.889 --> 02:30:19.190 this pill, this is what you'll have. You'll have 02:30:19.190 --> 02:30:21.610 fun with your friends on the beach with a Suzuki 02:30:21.610 --> 02:30:23.889 Samurai. It's so much fun. And they're reliable 02:30:23.889 --> 02:30:25.909 as fuck. That's the thing about them. Every Japanese 02:30:25.909 --> 02:30:28.030 car is reliable. Yes. They're the best. That's 02:30:28.030 --> 02:30:29.770 the thing about Japanese culture is that it's 02:30:29.770 --> 02:30:33.270 refinement culture. I feel like there's this 02:30:33.270 --> 02:30:37.430 Japanese DJ I saw. His name is Yosuke Yukimatsu. 02:30:38.309 --> 02:30:41.350 Okay? He had brain cancer, and then he thought 02:30:41.350 --> 02:30:42.629 he was going to die, so he was like, fucking, 02:30:42.649 --> 02:30:44.209 I'm going to be a DJ with the time I got left, 02:30:44.309 --> 02:30:46.250 and it went into remission, but he basically 02:30:46.250 --> 02:30:48.469 quit his construction job. He just did this boiler 02:30:48.469 --> 02:30:51.329 room set, and it is just like, I could be putting 02:30:51.329 --> 02:30:53.850 this energy on it because I want to believe it 02:30:53.850 --> 02:30:56.950 or whatever, but the intensity of it is, this 02:30:56.950 --> 02:30:59.709 is my shot, and I'm going to be unrelenting, 02:30:59.829 --> 02:31:03.280 right? The second I saw that he's Japanese, maybe 02:31:03.280 --> 02:31:05.079 this is my, like, this is the guy. Look at him 02:31:05.079 --> 02:31:09.059 go. But can you, like, can you imagine? Look 02:31:09.059 --> 02:31:12.239 at this motherfucker. A Japanese person being 02:31:12.239 --> 02:31:14.520 a DJ? Before I even listened to the set, I was 02:31:14.520 --> 02:31:15.680 like, oh, this is going to be the best set I've 02:31:15.680 --> 02:31:18.260 ever heard. Because they would never put themselves 02:31:18.260 --> 02:31:22.510 out there. And do it half -assed. Like every 02:31:22.510 --> 02:31:24.090 30 -year -old model in America is like, I'll 02:31:24.090 --> 02:31:26.629 be a DJ now. But in Japan, the culture is so 02:31:26.629 --> 02:31:29.389 like, don't bring shame upon your family. Don't 02:31:29.389 --> 02:31:31.329 bring attention to yourself unless you are the 02:31:31.329 --> 02:31:34.370 greatest. Do you know the term kaizen? Do you 02:31:34.370 --> 02:31:36.110 know what that means? No, what is that? Kaizen 02:31:36.110 --> 02:31:43.090 is a Japanese term for taking a thing and continuing 02:31:43.090 --> 02:31:48.800 to refine it until it reaches perfection. Japanese, 02:31:48.800 --> 02:31:53.159 first of all, supercars were always Italian. 02:31:53.780 --> 02:31:58.440 It was always German, Porsche, Ferrari, that 02:31:58.440 --> 02:32:02.860 kind of shit. And then Nissan created a car that 02:32:02.860 --> 02:32:06.110 destroyed everybody. What was it? The GTR. So 02:32:06.110 --> 02:32:09.069 the Nissan GTR, they've essentially been making 02:32:09.069 --> 02:32:13.670 the same exact car, just refining it for like 02:32:13.670 --> 02:32:20.190 20 years. I have a 2024 Nissan GTR Nismo, which 02:32:20.190 --> 02:32:22.750 is their race package one, which is the most 02:32:22.750 --> 02:32:26.500 refined version of the GTR they've ever... And 02:32:26.500 --> 02:32:30.819 it's a fucking marvel of engineering and refinement. 02:32:31.040 --> 02:32:34.020 Yeah. That fucking car is magical. Yeah. It's 02:32:34.020 --> 02:32:36.399 just glued to the road. You ever seen one? No, 02:32:36.459 --> 02:32:42.620 show me. Pull up a black Nissan 2024 GTR Nismo. 02:32:42.760 --> 02:32:45.299 But culturally, they can't put out shit. It's 02:32:45.299 --> 02:32:47.680 shameful to put out shit. Right. And I feel like 02:32:47.680 --> 02:32:49.920 they're almost done refining their culture, and 02:32:49.920 --> 02:32:52.399 now they're tapping into other things. That's 02:32:52.399 --> 02:32:54.659 what it looks like. Oh, wow. It looks like a— 02:32:54.659 --> 02:32:56.340 It's a spaceship. What's the— That's not—that's 02:32:56.340 --> 02:32:59.260 a Nismo 300. That's mine. That's my car right 02:32:59.260 --> 02:33:01.500 there. What is that? Nissan Z—was it a Z300 or 02:33:01.500 --> 02:33:04.819 something like that? This came out when I was 02:33:04.819 --> 02:33:07.180 in college. Yeah, 300Z. Yeah, 340Z. There's a 02:33:07.180 --> 02:33:10.440 bunch of those. But that's the GT -R. Yeah. That 02:33:10.440 --> 02:33:14.770 thing, it's just—it's just— It's just you're 02:33:14.770 --> 02:33:17.010 on a ride. You're riding a ride everywhere. It 02:33:17.010 --> 02:33:22.870 whirs and clinks and clunks. Yeah. It's so fun. 02:33:22.989 --> 02:33:25.909 That's a different one. That's a 300Z, a 370Z. 02:33:26.549 --> 02:33:28.290 That's pretty sick too, though. That looks good. 02:33:28.389 --> 02:33:30.809 But there's like a whole culture of taking these 02:33:30.809 --> 02:33:32.409 things. Like there's guys that make these things. 02:33:32.489 --> 02:33:35.090 They jack them up to 2 ,000 horsepower, and they 02:33:35.090 --> 02:33:37.209 spit fire out of the back of them. But they do 02:33:37.209 --> 02:33:39.350 that with pizza. Like the best pizza I've ever 02:33:39.350 --> 02:33:41.090 had, and I'm from New York City, is in Tokyo. 02:33:41.430 --> 02:33:43.389 Really? The best pizza you've ever had. The best 02:33:43.389 --> 02:33:45.170 pizza I've ever had is in Tokyo. I forget the 02:33:45.170 --> 02:33:47.989 name of the place. Wow. But my wife and I were 02:33:47.989 --> 02:33:51.329 in Tokyo. But it was the best steak I've ever 02:33:51.329 --> 02:33:54.129 had is in Tokyo. Really? And it's something about 02:33:54.129 --> 02:33:56.829 doing something half -assed, I think, is shameful. 02:33:57.270 --> 02:34:00.209 And there's this great honor in this refinement 02:34:00.209 --> 02:34:03.530 process. Now, there is a social cost to that. 02:34:04.610 --> 02:34:08.700 There's a rigidity, meaning like... Here's a 02:34:08.700 --> 02:34:10.219 perfect example. The oldest hotel in the world, 02:34:10.260 --> 02:34:12.239 I think, is this hotel in Japan. It started in 02:34:12.239 --> 02:34:15.840 703, the year 703. Whoa. Oh, I've seen that. 02:34:15.920 --> 02:34:17.940 Yeah. And it's been owned by the same family 02:34:17.940 --> 02:34:21.979 for 52 generations. Right. Which is an unbelievable 02:34:21.979 --> 02:34:24.799 feat when you think about American families or 02:34:24.799 --> 02:34:26.979 British families that have gotten rich, and then 02:34:26.979 --> 02:34:28.659 three generations, they've squandered it all. 02:34:29.559 --> 02:34:32.780 Really successful families. It's all been destroyed. 02:34:33.610 --> 02:34:35.450 And there is this thing in, I think, Japanese 02:34:35.450 --> 02:34:37.610 culture, which is like there's this great honor 02:34:37.610 --> 02:34:40.510 in taking on the tradition of your family. The 02:34:40.510 --> 02:34:43.250 cost of that is there was probably a comedian 02:34:43.250 --> 02:34:47.569 or a chef or somebody in that line that didn't 02:34:47.569 --> 02:34:49.149 do the thing that they really were passionate 02:34:49.149 --> 02:34:52.670 about to honor their family. But the societal 02:34:52.670 --> 02:34:55.709 benefit is probably the majority of people don't 02:34:55.709 --> 02:34:58.709 have those dreams. And having purpose in this 02:34:58.709 --> 02:35:03.430 job is probably better for them. I think there's 02:35:03.430 --> 02:35:05.209 a middle ground where you can still go dream 02:35:05.209 --> 02:35:07.870 and do these things. But also we have some respect 02:35:07.870 --> 02:35:11.030 for being a cobbler when your dad was a cobbler 02:35:11.030 --> 02:35:13.149 and his dad was a cobbler. I feel like we've 02:35:13.149 --> 02:35:14.989 lost that a little bit in like American dream 02:35:14.989 --> 02:35:17.510 culture, which like if you don't go out and achieve 02:35:17.510 --> 02:35:19.129 your craziest dream. Well, some people don't 02:35:19.129 --> 02:35:20.790 have that dream. But taking over their dad's 02:35:20.790 --> 02:35:22.549 business is something that they can feel good 02:35:22.549 --> 02:35:25.180 about and honor instead of like. Oh, yeah, so 02:35:25.180 --> 02:35:27.340 I just took over the family business. Well, doing 02:35:27.340 --> 02:35:29.780 a good job at anything, there's a lot of value 02:35:29.780 --> 02:35:32.459 in that for everybody. If you love making shoes 02:35:32.459 --> 02:35:34.200 and you become a cobbler and you make awesome 02:35:34.200 --> 02:35:36.780 shoes and you got, like, Andrew shows up, bro, 02:35:36.920 --> 02:35:39.739 those shoes are sick. I love them. I want another 02:35:39.739 --> 02:35:41.559 pair. Could you make them in crocodile? Yeah. 02:35:41.639 --> 02:35:44.159 Oh, let's go. Yeah. Yeah, it's exciting. Like, 02:35:44.239 --> 02:35:46.459 making things and having relationships with the 02:35:46.459 --> 02:35:48.639 people you sell them to, that's super rewarding. 02:35:48.940 --> 02:35:52.489 We do. chase that big dream over in america and 02:35:52.489 --> 02:35:54.790 make it seem like everybody has to have it but 02:35:54.790 --> 02:35:57.229 the dream of making cabinets that are awesome 02:35:57.229 --> 02:35:59.670 is a pretty fucking cool beautiful yeah the dream 02:35:59.670 --> 02:36:01.889 of being a painter is a pretty cool dream like 02:36:01.889 --> 02:36:04.309 there's there's a lot of dreams that don't get 02:36:04.309 --> 02:36:07.569 the value added to them because of fame like 02:36:07.569 --> 02:36:10.989 we we have this weird thing about fame above 02:36:10.989 --> 02:36:14.469 all in this country fame above all like moms 02:36:14.469 --> 02:36:17.590 being a mom isn't really valued like oh yeah 02:36:17.590 --> 02:36:20.379 it's a real I think it's a real problem. And 02:36:20.379 --> 02:36:22.600 it's not all places. I'm sure there are places 02:36:22.600 --> 02:36:25.500 that are more family -oriented where being a 02:36:25.500 --> 02:36:27.940 mom is an honored, respected thing. A lot out 02:36:27.940 --> 02:36:30.920 here, man. I love that. In New York, it's not 02:36:30.920 --> 02:36:33.579 that. Right, nor is it in L .A. In L .A., a lot 02:36:33.579 --> 02:36:35.420 of the moms have jobs, too. They have careers. 02:36:35.540 --> 02:36:37.000 They don't want to abandon their career. They 02:36:37.000 --> 02:36:39.200 might shame those moms that decide to stay home 02:36:39.200 --> 02:36:41.319 and take care of their kids. Oh, yeah? Yeah, 02:36:42.219 --> 02:36:44.819 I don't think that that's—it would be great if 02:36:44.819 --> 02:36:46.579 there was less rigidity and there was a lot of 02:36:46.579 --> 02:36:48.629 honor in that. And it was something we really 02:36:48.629 --> 02:36:50.909 respected. Because I know in New York, even my 02:36:50.909 --> 02:36:52.409 wife, like my wife is like, you know, she got 02:36:52.409 --> 02:36:54.030 her fucking MBA. She was working for Apple on 02:36:54.030 --> 02:36:56.590 AI projects. And then she goes, that's my dream 02:36:56.590 --> 02:36:58.889 to be a mom. And I feel societal scrutiny about 02:36:58.889 --> 02:37:01.809 it. But I don't fucking care because I want to 02:37:01.809 --> 02:37:03.809 be a mom. You know who really gets the scrutiny? 02:37:04.149 --> 02:37:19.090 Stay -at -home dads. That shit is gay. You're 02:37:19.090 --> 02:37:21.430 trying to lip pull me, Joe. What the fuck? I 02:37:21.430 --> 02:37:24.370 wanted to see where you were going with it. I 02:37:24.370 --> 02:37:27.290 fed you one of them little racquetball balls. 02:37:27.450 --> 02:37:30.149 The paddle. It's paddle. Paddle ball. Yeah, yeah. 02:37:30.209 --> 02:37:32.229 I fed you one of those half -filled tennis balls, 02:37:32.329 --> 02:37:38.530 and you fucking shoved it down my throat. But 02:37:38.530 --> 02:37:41.739 yeah, that is the weird thing. It's like... I 02:37:41.739 --> 02:37:44.379 know. As well as a male, you feel a real strong 02:37:44.379 --> 02:37:47.600 pull to be a provider. We do. It feels very important. 02:37:47.760 --> 02:37:51.299 Yeah. Really, as you become a father and you 02:37:51.299 --> 02:37:54.879 raise children, it really gets instilled in you. 02:37:54.979 --> 02:37:57.739 I always had a really good work ethic, but becoming 02:37:57.739 --> 02:38:00.260 a father made me have a much stronger work ethic. 02:38:03.309 --> 02:38:05.690 If I was a single man with no responsibilities, 02:38:05.969 --> 02:38:07.750 who knows if I would work as hard? Who knows 02:38:07.750 --> 02:38:10.209 if I would take days off? I would fuck off. My 02:38:10.209 --> 02:38:12.530 friends are like, hey, let's go bow hunting in 02:38:12.530 --> 02:38:14.129 Argentina. I'm like, yeah, I'll take the day 02:38:14.129 --> 02:38:17.590 off. Fuck it. The biggest lie about having kids 02:38:17.590 --> 02:38:20.530 is that you won't be able to provide for them. 02:38:20.750 --> 02:38:22.389 I think a lot of people go, oh, I just need to 02:38:22.389 --> 02:38:24.090 get my life ready to do it. It's like, oh, no, 02:38:24.129 --> 02:38:26.190 no, no. That's going to put a battery in your 02:38:26.190 --> 02:38:28.049 back like you wouldn't fucking believe. Hopefully. 02:38:28.209 --> 02:38:31.030 It's very sad when it doesn't. Those people shouldn't 02:38:31.030 --> 02:38:33.889 have kids. Yeah. I've met men where they just 02:38:33.889 --> 02:38:36.469 keep doing the same thing even after they have 02:38:36.469 --> 02:38:37.969 children. And you're like, oh, my God, dude, 02:38:38.090 --> 02:38:39.829 you can't do this. Did they want to have them? 02:38:40.489 --> 02:38:43.329 Who knows you know who knows what if people want 02:38:43.329 --> 02:38:45.290 or if they think they want and then they have 02:38:45.290 --> 02:38:48.409 and then they don't change You know Louis CK 02:38:48.409 --> 02:38:51.370 said something really cool once to me. He's like 02:38:51.370 --> 02:38:53.409 when you have children He's like you just kind 02:38:53.409 --> 02:38:55.590 of let it change you hmm. Just let it change 02:38:55.590 --> 02:38:58.370 you yeah Yeah, don't hold on to who you think 02:38:58.370 --> 02:39:00.989 you are and what you think your identity is just 02:39:00.989 --> 02:39:04.860 let it Let it transform you adjust Because everybody 02:39:04.860 --> 02:39:07.879 adjusts. The mom adjusts. Now it's not your girlfriend 02:39:07.879 --> 02:39:10.280 anymore. It's not your wife anymore. Now it's 02:39:10.280 --> 02:39:13.139 a mother. She has a child. She made a human being 02:39:13.139 --> 02:39:15.600 in her body. It's very vulnerable and she loves 02:39:15.600 --> 02:39:17.920 it more than anything in this world. And it's 02:39:17.920 --> 02:39:21.379 this crazy experience that if you don't have 02:39:21.379 --> 02:39:23.600 and you're on the outside, you look at it as 02:39:23.600 --> 02:39:26.479 like, oh, that responsibility. Oh, fuck that. 02:39:26.600 --> 02:39:29.559 Oh, you're tied down. Oh, you got kids now. But 02:39:29.559 --> 02:39:34.049 it's... It's another level of understanding what 02:39:34.049 --> 02:39:36.770 life really is. Because it's this constant cycle 02:39:36.770 --> 02:39:39.049 of new people entering into the world. And eventually 02:39:39.049 --> 02:39:41.750 you will leave this world. And hopefully you 02:39:41.750 --> 02:39:43.350 will leave this world better because you were 02:39:43.350 --> 02:39:46.909 here. Amen. Yeah. That's true. Yeah, it's the 02:39:46.909 --> 02:39:49.370 coolest thing that's ever happened to me. And 02:39:49.370 --> 02:39:51.909 absolutely has transformed me. I was super excited 02:39:51.909 --> 02:39:54.610 when you would become a dad. Man. Because I knew. 02:39:55.970 --> 02:39:59.010 you're all in on everything you do. So you'd 02:39:59.010 --> 02:40:01.209 be all in on being a dad too, which is so important. 02:40:01.430 --> 02:40:05.780 It's just so important. It's so weird. You're 02:40:05.780 --> 02:40:08.979 making a life, a human being comes into this 02:40:08.979 --> 02:40:11.059 world that didn't exist before you and your wife 02:40:11.059 --> 02:40:14.079 had sex. And now there's a human being that's 02:40:14.079 --> 02:40:16.000 talking to you and you're teaching them stuff. 02:40:16.020 --> 02:40:17.459 They learn things. You get to see them laugh 02:40:17.459 --> 02:40:20.180 and giggle. You get to see them open up Christmas 02:40:20.180 --> 02:40:23.420 presents and screech in excitement. Oh, my God. 02:40:23.680 --> 02:40:27.440 All the happiness that you get from other things 02:40:27.440 --> 02:40:29.719 just doesn't compare. Pales in comparison. Yeah, 02:40:29.739 --> 02:40:32.000 it's a different happiness. It's a totally different 02:40:32.000 --> 02:40:35.559 happiness. And it's also, it's like an understanding 02:40:35.559 --> 02:40:38.940 of life itself. I have talked about this before, 02:40:39.000 --> 02:40:42.000 but I changed the way I think about people. You 02:40:42.000 --> 02:40:43.879 told me this. I think about everybody as a baby 02:40:43.879 --> 02:40:47.920 now. Everybody's a baby that became a 60 -year 02:40:47.920 --> 02:40:49.819 -old man with a big old wino nose, you know, 02:40:49.840 --> 02:40:52.420 when they get those big crazy fucking gin blossom 02:40:52.420 --> 02:40:56.159 faces. Yeah. Like priests. Yep. And, you know, 02:40:56.180 --> 02:40:59.020 I realized like, oh, this is just, this is this 02:40:59.020 --> 02:41:02.940 entity at this stage of its journey. It used 02:41:02.940 --> 02:41:04.520 to be a baby. They used to be someone's cute 02:41:04.520 --> 02:41:07.340 little baby boy with a little bow tie on. Everybody 02:41:07.340 --> 02:41:09.040 thought it was so cute, took a picture of him. 02:41:09.319 --> 02:41:13.920 Now here he is, bad breath and farting. Big old 02:41:13.920 --> 02:41:17.280 pot belly, hating life, smoking Paul Malls. Yeah, 02:41:17.319 --> 02:41:18.719 he had a lot of hope at one point. That was a 02:41:18.719 --> 02:41:23.920 baby, yeah. And you have a lot of hope, but what 02:41:23.920 --> 02:41:26.100 is the impediment to you achieving a fulfilled 02:41:26.100 --> 02:41:28.700 life? And so many people don't even know where 02:41:28.700 --> 02:41:32.299 to start or where to begin or what to do. which 02:41:32.299 --> 02:41:35.879 way to go. And if you haven't been trusting your 02:41:35.879 --> 02:41:37.659 instincts in your life and you haven't been taking 02:41:37.659 --> 02:41:39.540 chances, then all of a sudden you have to take 02:41:39.540 --> 02:41:44.379 one at like 35. It's hard, man. It's hard. That's 02:41:44.379 --> 02:41:46.680 a muscle you build like endurance. You build 02:41:46.680 --> 02:41:48.979 the muscle of being able to take chances and 02:41:48.979 --> 02:41:52.200 do difficult things. You build that like all 02:41:52.200 --> 02:41:55.159 other muscles, all other strengths and virtues 02:41:55.159 --> 02:41:58.559 that you have. It's reinforced with use. Yeah, 02:41:58.579 --> 02:42:01.709 every risk you take that is successful. you get 02:42:01.709 --> 02:42:03.530 a little bit more confidence in taking those 02:42:03.530 --> 02:42:05.790 risks. Also, you understand what's required to 02:42:05.790 --> 02:42:09.129 make this venture successful. You'd have to look 02:42:09.129 --> 02:42:11.690 at it correctly. You can't be delusional. You 02:42:11.690 --> 02:42:13.549 have to be objective, and you have to do what 02:42:13.549 --> 02:42:16.209 actually needs to be done. Yeah. And some people 02:42:16.209 --> 02:42:18.629 don't like that responsibility. It's terrifying. 02:42:18.989 --> 02:42:22.069 Yeah. And so they sabotage themselves. They sabotage 02:42:22.069 --> 02:42:24.489 their life because it's easier to fail because 02:42:24.489 --> 02:42:26.750 you're used to it. Yeah. So you fall right back 02:42:26.750 --> 02:42:28.729 in and, oh, I'll pick myself back up again. But 02:42:28.729 --> 02:42:30.610 right now, I'm on the heroin again for a little 02:42:30.610 --> 02:42:35.000 bit. bit yeah that is the cool thing about well 02:42:35.000 --> 02:42:38.459 yeah i mean failure is not an option once you 02:42:38.459 --> 02:42:42.200 have a kid no you have to figure it out yeah 02:42:42.200 --> 02:42:43.659 you have to figure it out also you want the world 02:42:43.659 --> 02:42:45.459 to be a safer place because you have very vulnerable 02:42:45.459 --> 02:42:49.340 little people yeah you relate it's uh you You 02:42:49.340 --> 02:42:51.959 just become like a real human being. It's interesting 02:42:51.959 --> 02:42:53.959 when I hear people that don't have kids kind 02:42:53.959 --> 02:42:55.520 of complain about the world. And I'm like, oh, 02:42:55.540 --> 02:42:58.100 you actually don't really understand how high 02:42:58.100 --> 02:43:02.139 the stakes get. Right. Like, the way that I relate 02:43:02.139 --> 02:43:04.879 to every bit of stimulus has completely changed. 02:43:05.020 --> 02:43:07.780 It's heightened and reduced. The little frivolous 02:43:07.780 --> 02:43:10.239 shit, I do not give a flying fuck about. Yeah. 02:43:10.239 --> 02:43:12.659 Like, I really don't care. And then the big ticket 02:43:12.659 --> 02:43:16.079 things, I care deeply about. You know, how could 02:43:16.079 --> 02:43:19.280 they impact my kid? It's very easy for people 02:43:19.280 --> 02:43:21.700 to, even with the vaccine shit, it's very easy 02:43:21.700 --> 02:43:23.659 for people who don't have kids to tell you, oh, 02:43:23.719 --> 02:43:25.459 just trust the doctors, whatever. The second 02:43:25.459 --> 02:43:29.500 you have a kid, it is probably the most terrifying 02:43:29.500 --> 02:43:32.280 thing you'll ever do in your entire life is injecting 02:43:32.280 --> 02:43:35.420 something into the most perfect thing you've 02:43:35.420 --> 02:43:38.799 ever created. And then every single day wondering 02:43:38.799 --> 02:43:40.719 and seeing if she's still smiling and seeing 02:43:40.719 --> 02:43:43.260 if she's still okay. And feeling responsible 02:43:43.260 --> 02:43:46.000 if anything negative happens. And then if you 02:43:46.000 --> 02:43:49.100 don't do it. feeling responsible if she got fucking 02:43:49.100 --> 02:43:50.979 the measles or mumps or whatever the fuck it 02:43:50.979 --> 02:43:55.799 is i have so much more empathy and it's something 02:43:55.799 --> 02:43:57.620 that people just can't understand because they're 02:43:57.620 --> 02:44:00.459 not put in that position right every new parent 02:44:00.459 --> 02:44:02.940 that i talk to is concerned about this shit every 02:44:02.940 --> 02:44:05.920 single one so it's like you have to have a little 02:44:05.920 --> 02:44:07.479 empathy like you've created the most perfect 02:44:07.479 --> 02:44:09.799 thing you've ever could ever imagine like nothing 02:44:09.799 --> 02:44:12.860 comes as close to that and Every decision you 02:44:12.860 --> 02:44:14.620 make could greatly impact that person's life. 02:44:15.000 --> 02:44:16.979 So, yeah, we're going to be scared if we watch 02:44:16.979 --> 02:44:19.159 a fucking video on the Internet that says this 02:44:19.159 --> 02:44:20.860 thing is bad for them. Right. And don't call 02:44:20.860 --> 02:44:23.379 us some fucking quacks. Just call us like parents 02:44:23.379 --> 02:44:25.680 who care for our fucking kids. Well, the reason 02:44:25.680 --> 02:44:27.879 there's a lot of people that want to cover up 02:44:27.879 --> 02:44:30.979 for their own actions, like what they've done. 02:44:31.440 --> 02:44:34.040 The people that want to say, like, all this is 02:44:34.040 --> 02:44:35.940 exaggerated. There are no vaccine injuries. This 02:44:35.940 --> 02:44:37.159 could have happened to my child. It probably 02:44:37.159 --> 02:44:39.420 was going to happen anyway. It was going to happen 02:44:39.420 --> 02:44:41.239 anyway. And you want to really believe that, 02:44:41.239 --> 02:44:42.159 too. Of course you do, because you don't want 02:44:42.159 --> 02:44:43.780 to feel like it's your responsibility. Also, 02:44:43.879 --> 02:44:45.500 you don't want to believe that pharmaceutical 02:44:45.500 --> 02:44:47.979 drug companies are willing to sell you things 02:44:47.979 --> 02:44:50.979 that are going to harm your child. And they are. 02:44:51.180 --> 02:44:53.379 They are. They always have been. They always 02:44:53.379 --> 02:44:55.520 will be. They're publicly traded companies that 02:44:55.520 --> 02:44:57.239 have a responsibility to their shareholders to 02:44:57.239 --> 02:44:59.479 make as much money as possible. And the money 02:44:59.479 --> 02:45:01.750 people are going to put. a bunch of shit through 02:45:01.750 --> 02:45:04.090 that probably shouldn't go through. And they'll 02:45:04.090 --> 02:45:06.809 tell you you need it. Like when they were vaccinating 02:45:06.809 --> 02:45:09.750 kids with COVID, there was no reason to do that. 02:45:09.809 --> 02:45:11.329 They knew there was no reason to do that, but 02:45:11.329 --> 02:45:12.690 they wanted everybody to take it because that's 02:45:12.690 --> 02:45:14.809 where the money is. And that's a scary thought 02:45:14.809 --> 02:45:16.950 that we live in a world that there's people out 02:45:16.950 --> 02:45:18.629 there that would literally sacrifice the health 02:45:18.629 --> 02:45:21.770 of children for profit. But ultimately, that's 02:45:21.770 --> 02:45:24.799 what they do. I mean, that's a thing that's been 02:45:24.799 --> 02:45:26.959 done. It will continue to be done unless something 02:45:26.959 --> 02:45:28.719 happens. Who are the people that do that? Why 02:45:28.719 --> 02:45:30.420 are they not named? Look at the Sackler family. 02:45:30.680 --> 02:45:32.459 Look at those people. So it's like we know one 02:45:32.459 --> 02:45:34.219 name. We know the Sacklers. And we don't even 02:45:34.219 --> 02:45:35.899 know their first name. Well, you might, but the 02:45:35.899 --> 02:45:38.079 average person doesn't. I think that it would 02:45:38.079 --> 02:45:41.319 be a lot different if these people's names were 02:45:41.319 --> 02:45:43.000 public record. It would be a lot different if 02:45:43.000 --> 02:45:45.120 they went to jail. That's the thing. They just 02:45:45.120 --> 02:45:48.139 get fined. They'll get Mangione'd. Yeah. That 02:45:48.139 --> 02:45:50.180 would happen. Right. That would happen immediately. 02:45:50.500 --> 02:45:51.180 That's a new thing. That's a verb. They're going 02:45:51.180 --> 02:45:54.920 to get that Luigi treatment immediately. It will 02:45:54.920 --> 02:45:56.299 be that way. People don't fuck around with their 02:45:56.299 --> 02:45:59.260 kids, man. It's a different... Luigi was wearing 02:45:59.260 --> 02:46:02.979 loafers with his ankle handcuffs and he was in 02:46:02.979 --> 02:46:06.059 a trial and he looked so beautiful. He's a handsome 02:46:06.059 --> 02:46:08.459 guy. My wife and my daughters are like, he's 02:46:08.459 --> 02:46:10.540 adorable. Look at him here. He's so beautiful. 02:46:11.219 --> 02:46:12.780 He's so handsome. He's a handsome guy. Like a 02:46:12.780 --> 02:46:15.219 supermodel. I think he did porn or maybe that 02:46:15.219 --> 02:46:17.299 was just a headline that I saw. But whatever. 02:46:23.100 --> 02:46:25.000 Isn't it crazy, though, that the assassin is 02:46:25.000 --> 02:46:26.760 a good -looking guy and becomes a hero? Like, 02:46:26.760 --> 02:46:28.659 if he was an ugly fat guy with a MAGA hat on, 02:46:28.780 --> 02:46:31.559 everybody would want him dead. Look at him. Wow, 02:46:31.860 --> 02:46:33.659 look at those brows. Beautiful. Well, he's wearing 02:46:33.659 --> 02:46:36.159 a bulletproof vest, too. Isn't that wild? Yeah. 02:46:37.399 --> 02:46:40.260 But he's got, like, a mental health problem. 02:46:40.459 --> 02:46:42.500 Yeah. Apparently. And someone said that he took 02:46:42.500 --> 02:46:46.360 acid and cracked. Yeah. I heard that. Who knows 02:46:46.360 --> 02:46:48.360 how much of that? We'll find out when the trial 02:46:48.360 --> 02:46:53.040 happens what the lore is. A broken clock is right 02:46:53.040 --> 02:46:56.260 two times a day, though. It was real weird when 02:46:56.260 --> 02:46:58.540 people were like, yeah, more of that, please. 02:46:58.840 --> 02:47:02.200 To me, that's just desperation, and you get to 02:47:02.200 --> 02:47:05.159 see it manifested. It's like if you're like a 02:47:05.159 --> 02:47:07.340 really, really, really, really, really rich person 02:47:07.340 --> 02:47:10.280 with power, you want to make sure the poorest 02:47:10.280 --> 02:47:14.100 people have enough to survive. The second they 02:47:14.100 --> 02:47:16.139 don't feel like they have hope and they don't 02:47:16.139 --> 02:47:17.979 feel like they have enough to survive, they start 02:47:17.979 --> 02:47:21.500 storming your estate. Well, especially when you 02:47:21.500 --> 02:47:24.219 talk about health care because there's people 02:47:24.219 --> 02:47:27.500 whose job is to deny people health care that 02:47:27.500 --> 02:47:29.579 deserve it. Because that's how they save money, 02:47:29.760 --> 02:47:33.079 which is – that's crazy to think of. But that's 02:47:33.079 --> 02:47:35.440 – I mean, what is the alternative? Socialized 02:47:35.440 --> 02:47:37.540 medicine? The problem with that is it doesn't 02:47:37.540 --> 02:47:40.000 incentivize doctors to be the best. I want my 02:47:40.000 --> 02:47:42.379 doctor to drive a fucking Porsche. I want my 02:47:42.379 --> 02:47:44.860 doctor to have a 911 Turbo and a nice watch. 02:47:45.219 --> 02:47:46.799 No, you're right, because you want the smartest 02:47:46.799 --> 02:47:48.219 people to be the doctors. You don't want them 02:47:48.219 --> 02:47:50.139 running hedge funds. There's a lot of probably 02:47:50.139 --> 02:47:51.819 really smart people running hedge funds. I don't 02:47:51.819 --> 02:47:53.819 want them doing that shit. I want them fixing 02:47:53.819 --> 02:47:56.860 diseases. And if there's not enough money in 02:47:56.860 --> 02:47:58.440 it, yeah, they're going to go to the hedge fund 02:47:58.440 --> 02:48:02.559 shit, which is meaningless. So it's like it is 02:48:02.559 --> 02:48:05.959 a tricky problem. How do you create a system 02:48:05.959 --> 02:48:08.360 that incentivizes the most brilliant people to 02:48:08.360 --> 02:48:10.379 be in positions where they help us all? But how 02:48:10.379 --> 02:48:12.840 do you make sure that the nefarious actors are 02:48:12.840 --> 02:48:15.239 not finding ways to squeeze probably the most 02:48:15.239 --> 02:48:17.979 vulnerable? How do we eliminate nefarious actors 02:48:17.979 --> 02:48:20.659 from the world or do we ever? You can't. You 02:48:20.659 --> 02:48:24.420 can't. They're there and they will pop into these 02:48:24.420 --> 02:48:27.180 positions. And I think they're there also to 02:48:27.180 --> 02:48:30.479 help you appreciate non -nefarious people. Yeah, 02:48:30.540 --> 02:48:33.500 like we wouldn't know good unless there is bad. 02:48:33.760 --> 02:48:36.000 Yeah, that's real. That's a good perspective 02:48:36.000 --> 02:48:39.020 to have on bad. That's the good and evil struggle 02:48:39.020 --> 02:48:42.040 forever. That's the yin and the yang. That's 02:48:42.040 --> 02:48:43.899 it all. It's like that's how the world moves 02:48:43.899 --> 02:48:45.920 forward. That's how it advances. It protects 02:48:45.920 --> 02:48:48.479 itself against evil. And then evil tries to find 02:48:48.479 --> 02:48:50.579 ways through the fucking cracks. They develop 02:48:50.579 --> 02:48:56.639 better antivirus software. It's a simulation. 02:48:57.319 --> 02:49:00.299 A little bit, man. It might be. It's going to 02:49:00.299 --> 02:49:02.840 be, so maybe it already is. And maybe it always 02:49:02.840 --> 02:49:05.760 was. Maybe it always was. And if it's a simulation 02:49:05.760 --> 02:49:10.000 once, it can be a simulation twice. So if we 02:49:10.000 --> 02:49:12.520 can create the simulation and we were created 02:49:12.520 --> 02:49:15.790 as a simulation, that means that... We could 02:49:15.790 --> 02:49:18.930 be like the 20th version of it. And we're probably 02:49:18.930 --> 02:49:22.209 about to create a way better one with AI. That's 02:49:22.209 --> 02:49:25.309 probably what AI is. AI is probably the god of 02:49:25.309 --> 02:49:27.950 the simulation. We probably lock that motherfucker 02:49:27.950 --> 02:49:30.309 in, turn it on, then it figures out how to do 02:49:30.309 --> 02:49:31.950 everything. Do you have any concern about AI? 02:49:32.190 --> 02:49:35.270 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Elon said there's a 20 % chance 02:49:35.270 --> 02:49:37.069 everything goes sideways, but an 80 % chance 02:49:37.069 --> 02:49:40.030 it's an overall net good for humanity. But 20 02:49:40.030 --> 02:49:42.430 % chance, like, we're fucked. That's a high number. 02:49:42.629 --> 02:49:44.950 That's not a good number. I don't like that if 02:49:44.950 --> 02:49:46.889 I'm playing Russian roulette and I got Ted Chambers 02:49:46.889 --> 02:49:49.629 and I spin that bitch. I don't like there's two 02:49:49.629 --> 02:49:52.290 bullets in there. Yeah. I don't like that. That 02:49:52.290 --> 02:49:55.409 makes me nervous. But I also think you've got 02:49:55.409 --> 02:49:58.850 a lot of really good, smart people trying to 02:49:58.850 --> 02:50:03.590 make sure that at the very least the people here 02:50:03.590 --> 02:50:06.329 invent it before the people in China, which I 02:50:06.329 --> 02:50:09.709 think is probably important. Whoever launches 02:50:09.709 --> 02:50:12.569 the god first is going to be in charge of a lot 02:50:12.569 --> 02:50:14.940 of stuff. Yeah. It's going to get fucking very 02:50:14.940 --> 02:50:18.340 strange, Andrew Schultz. It's already very strange, 02:50:18.360 --> 02:50:21.159 but it's going to get even stranger. We'll be 02:50:21.159 --> 02:50:23.600 here to enjoy it. Yes, sir. We'll be making fun 02:50:23.600 --> 02:50:25.540 of it. My brother, it's always a good time to 02:50:25.540 --> 02:50:27.159 sit with you. I love you, dog. Thank you. I love 02:50:27.159 --> 02:50:29.420 you to death. You're the best. You are. Tell 02:50:29.420 --> 02:50:32.219 everybody what's going on. Oh, Life is on Netflix 02:50:32.219 --> 02:50:34.540 right now. Right now. So go check it out, man. 02:50:34.819 --> 02:50:37.659 Yeah, go check it out. Also go check out Derek 02:50:37.659 --> 02:50:42.079 Poston's. Look at that stash, son. Yeah. So I 02:50:42.079 --> 02:50:45.200 think today we're number two. Maybe after this 02:50:45.200 --> 02:50:49.500 we beat Kate Hudson. Kate Hudson got me, man. 02:50:49.620 --> 02:50:52.479 What day does Darius come out? April 19th? April, 02:50:52.500 --> 02:50:55.239 I think, 16th. 16th. Yeah, so make sure you check 02:50:55.239 --> 02:50:56.500 that out. I've got to get him in here. Oh, yeah, 02:50:56.559 --> 02:50:58.479 he's just the fuck. Bro, he was killing us last 02:50:58.479 --> 02:51:01.959 night. He said that the greatest art ever created 02:51:01.959 --> 02:51:06.860 is Harry Potter. And we go like... Better than, 02:51:06.920 --> 02:51:09.180 he's like, he goes, yes, if it's the most consumed, 02:51:09.200 --> 02:51:10.500 it's the best. And we're like, what about the 02:51:10.500 --> 02:51:12.440 Bible? He goes, ain't nobody read that shit. 02:51:15.500 --> 02:51:19.180 He goes, ain't nobody read that shit. He goes, 02:51:19.180 --> 02:51:21.959 you might have read like part of it, but you 02:51:21.959 --> 02:51:23.600 didn't read the whole Bible. He goes, nobody's 02:51:23.600 --> 02:51:28.139 stopping at book three. He was cooking last night. 02:51:28.520 --> 02:51:30.600 But yo, go check out his Don't Tell comedy. He's 02:51:30.600 --> 02:51:33.100 very funny and a great person. Absolutely. All 02:51:33.100 --> 02:51:34.440 right. I love you, brother. Love you, dog. Bye, 02:51:34.479 --> 02:51:34.600 everybody.