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Welcome to this curated educational transcript of the Joe Rogan Experience. In this session, we provide a deep-dive examination of the critical perspectives and historical dialogues presented in Episode #2458. Our mission is to offer a high-fidelity, searchable research resource for students of cultural history, emerging technology, and global discourse. This transcript has been specifically optimized for academic reference, linguistic study, and archival preservation regarding Comedy Podcasting Evolution, Independent Media Success, and Contemporary Satire Culture. Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan

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Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by

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night, all day. A lot of people have lights on

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their tables now to light up their face to make

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them look more pretty. Really? Yeah, they have

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like a slight, like an opening in the table and

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then a light that gets on you so you don't see

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like the shadows in your face. Looks shitty.

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Isn't that what you do with a scary story? You

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put a flashlight under your chin? Yeah, but they're

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not trying to do that. They're trying to balance

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it out so you look flat. That's crazy. You look

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like what you look like. Yeah. You got to give

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up after a while. The weirdest shit is men who

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use filters when they take pictures. That's insane.

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There's comedian men that use filters. Yes. It's

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very odd. How do you know? How do you tell? You

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know what they really look like. Yeah, duh. And

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then you see them and they look like a cartoon.

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Netflix does that with the pictures that they

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use when they promote your special, like the

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picture of you. They'll put that bitch through

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a filter. That makes sense. You look so pretty.

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If people see you after the show, you're like,

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you look horrible. I didn't know you looked so

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bad. You look so old. Thanks, man. I am so old.

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I'm almost 60. Dang. I know. It's crazy. I'm

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58. I'm 40. I just turned 40. Those are real

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numbers. Yeah, I know. As soon as I had kids,

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I aged like immediately. You would have thought

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I literally gave birth. Yeah, well, it's the

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lack of sleep. Yeah, that's what got me. Yeah.

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You know what's really good for that? Creatine.

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I've been taking it. Yeah, creatine, they say

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20 grams a day. Start. Like with five and work

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your way up to 20 and check to see how your butthole

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holds up because the seal might be loose. I've

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ran this experiment. 20 gets my guts going, man.

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Bro, it does. It does. I don't do 20 in a dose.

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I do 10 in the morning and 10 at night. Because

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I was doing 20 in a dose and it was just like,

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everybody out of the pool. I'm also not convinced

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diarrhea is bad for you. I swear to God, like

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not shitting for sure, but diarrhea is just like,

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let's speed this up. Well, isn't that what, is

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that consumption? What is the disease where you

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can't stop having diarrhea? Dysentery. Dysentery,

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that's it. Shit. All right, well, if you can't

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stop having it, sure. Well, that's like you can't

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digest food. It just goes right through you and

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you just shit constantly. Yeah, you shit starve.

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Yeah. That sucks, actually. Yeah, it's not good.

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Once a week, though. That's fine. You know what

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I used to do? I used to drink kale smoothies

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in the morning. That was the first thing that

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I would do. I would throw kale and garlic and

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like apples and shit in a blender. And that's

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what I would drink first thing in the morning.

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And boy, that is just like, that clears the pathway.

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That's like, you know when you clear your rain

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gutters of leaves? Yeah. You get a hose on that

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bitch and you just fucking blow him off the top.

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That's what it's like. Yeah, I've done the green

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drink before. It does get you. I was vegan for

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like a month. And that was like the biggest dumps.

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But I actually got hemorrhoids from being vegan.

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Oh, because on the toilet too much? It was just

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that the turds were so big. I was getting like

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blown out. I got hemorrhoids from being vegan.

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Was it taking too long to poop? No. Or were you

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just like, it was just spectacular? It was just

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massive. It was spectacular. There were massive

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bull winders. It was like twice a day. I was

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like an adult entertainer. I was like my body

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just gave out. Adult entertainer. Well, when

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you think about it, it's all that fiber that

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your body doesn't process. But they say that

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that's what's good for keeping you clean. The

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fiber pushes everything out. I'm back on the

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fiber train now. I was all about protein now.

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I'm like, yeah, I need my fiber now. It's hard

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to know who's right because the carnivore people

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are like, you don't need fiber. There's no need

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for fiber. But then there's like. There's evidence

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that fiber is good for you. Yeah. Isn't that

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what your whole microbiome needs to like make

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the germs or whatever that are good for your

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brain? I don't know. I get confused as well.

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My balance is I eat a lot of kimchi. I really

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like kimchi. That's a move. I eat that stuff

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all the time. Kimchi and I eat sauerkraut. That

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stuff's legit. Yeah. I know that stuff's supposed

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to be good for you. But yeah, I tried the carnivore

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and it was like – the first five days I felt

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cool and then like after – I think I made it

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to 17 days. I was like, dude, if I just ate some

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vegetables with this, I'd be the healthiest guy

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in the world. Because it was just like, I stopped

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pooping. I was like, this can't be good for me.

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Well, you don't poop much because there's no

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fiber. So when you do poop, it's just boop. Yeah,

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I remember. I remember just all the rabbit pellets.

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And you're like, where's the rest? But, I mean,

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isn't that a good thing? Doesn't it mean your

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body absorbed all of the food instead of, like,

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having all this undigestible stuff go through

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your digestive tract? This is the argument that

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the carnivore people make. I don't want anybody

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that's a nutritionist right now pulling their

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hair out. Disinformation! I'm just asking. It's

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a solid question because it's like, yeah, does

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food, does meat get stuck in your body and you

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need plants to push it out? your butt or will

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meat come out of your butt just like plants will?

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Well, that was the thing that they would always

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say, that every man when he dies has a pound

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of undigested meat in his stomach. Apparently,

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that's not true. Yeah, that was the old thing

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about John Wayne. Like, John Wayne had 50 pounds

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of beef jerky in his butthole. I've, like, thought

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about that since I was a little boy. I've been

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wondering, like, how much are they going to find

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in me? Yeah, that's true. So it's not the case?

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No, John Wayne just had a gut from probably beer.

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Yeah. You know, beer and pasta and bread. True.

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And, you know. normal American food. Also, he

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was, I mean, when was, what was his heyday? Like

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50s, 60s, or 60s, I guess, 60s, 70s maybe? When

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did he do that Genghis Khan movie? That's what

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killed him. What year was that? 50s, I think.

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Yeah, because those dudes weren't on nutrition.

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True grit. Those days, yeah. Dude, they weren't

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being like, oh, how much fiber have I had? No.

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Even in the 90s, the dude didn't think about

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what they're eating. 56. 56? Wow. That's one

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of the worst movies of all time. You ever see

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it? No. This Genghis Khan movie? How did it kill

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him? Oh, he filmed it in the same area where

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Nevada was doing their nuclear tests. Oh. Everybody

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got cancer. Damn. The whole crew, a giant number

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of people. gut cancer yeah and that i'm telling

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you that was back when guys would be like nuclear

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bomb i don't care about like they didn't like

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i used to work with guys that do asbestos back

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in like the 90s when i was little me and like

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my dad my uncle's all the construction so we

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were like taking this barn down and i was like

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a little boy just like hammering nails into an

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a -frame and uh they shut it down because there

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was asbestos in there and there's this guy who

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was like dude your uncle's a pussy i'd eat that

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shit for breakfast i don't care about asbestos

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and it's like I don't know. Now I grew up, I'm

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like, damn, thank God they shut that down. Well,

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there were so many things that caused cancer

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that no one knew about at the time. Yeah. Like,

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how about baby powder? Yeah, dude, I didn't know

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about that either. Well, the thing is, I think

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what the story is, is that where they mine the

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talc, that the talc is not always pure. And the

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talc has other stuff mixed in it, and they don't

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filter that stuff out. Is it asbestos that it's

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mixed with? I thought that stuff was cornstarch.

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Run that into perplexity, please. I thought it

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was cornstarch. What? Baby powder. Baby powder?

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No. So it's talc. No, it's talc, I believe. Evidence

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of small but real cancer risk with some talc

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-based baby powders, mainly due to genital use

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and possible asbestos contamination. Yeah, that's

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it. But the data are mixed, and the absolute

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risk for any one person is low. Talc itself as

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a mineral can be mined near asbestos, so contamination

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is the main worry. Asbestos is a known cause

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of mesothelioma and other cancers. Yeah, quite

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a few women. I think there was a lawsuit. I remember

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hearing that. I remember I was dismayed because

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that was like, I had a weird thing when I was

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younger. I used to use baby powder to masturbate.

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Because it just makes everything feel so. So

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it was kind of nice. And if I smell baby powder

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to this day, it's like a trigger for me. Yeah.

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If I smell it, I'm like, God damn, bro. Get that

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shit away from me. Well, I used to use it a lot

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to play pool. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Everybody would

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use baby powder. You use baby powder on your

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fingers. It makes the shaft slide through your

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fingers. But then they invented gloves. And so

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that keeps the table clean. Yeah, yeah. This

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is like. I don't know what they're made out of.

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It was like a nylon, like a very thin nylon.

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So it's not getting caught up. Makes it nice

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and slick. Yeah, but baby powder, no bueno. What

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else? They're saying LED lights now. That's what

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I keep hearing. LED. They're saying it kills

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your mitochondria. Aren't these LED? Are these

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LED? Fuck do we have to change our life? Are

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we dying in here? I think they like crush your

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mitochondria. Oh geez. I don't know if I just

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get scared by a I clips on everything I have

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to fucking stay offline. I know I I'm reading

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too much of the news and it's overwhelming me

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like sometimes at nighttime like I can't wind

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down Yeah, this is like there's too much news

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too much fucking madness. We're about to go to

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war with Iran Everyone's eating beef jerky and

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pizza. What the fuck is pizza? How far does this

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go? How come this never got released before?

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What is happening? First of all, the news for

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me, aside from all the disastrous wars, it's

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just so negative. The news is mostly people being

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like, guess who's a giant piece of shit? You

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read that over and over and you get addicted

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to being like, yeah, that guy sucks. I'm good.

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Well, there was an article that I read recently

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about people being addicted to outrage. Yeah.

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It's a real thing. Oh, for sure. Being addicted

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to being upset about stuff and addicted to, you

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go search for it, which is why your algorithm

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shows you all that shit. Yeah. No, I mean, I

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don't know if this is true, but I feel like they

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watch your facial expression through your phone

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camera and feed you stuff if you're making like

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interested or outraged or whatever. I wouldn't

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be shocked. I've heard they like track your eyeball

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movement and they're like, okay, this is holding

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his eyes and they just keep feeding you. Really?

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I've heard that. I probably put a piece of tape

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over that bitch. I know. I know. I wonder if

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you did, how much would change? That would be

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an interesting experience. Well, they got your

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mic, too, so they got your audio. Yeah, that's

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true. But yeah, dude, all that Epstein shit is

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like, I can't follow it. It's too much. It's

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too much. There's too many names. I don't know

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state represented. They're like naming all these

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people. It's like, damn, I wish I knew who that

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was. And it's dark, too. It's horrible. And it

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goes so high. There's so many levels to it. You

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know, Sager and Yeti was just on Flagrant, and

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they were reading off files and talking about

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it. And it's just like, what the fuck, man? Yeah,

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you need to study all day to, like, follow it.

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Prince Andrew's crazy. Him getting arrested.

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He's the first. What other prince has gotten

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arrested? It must have been, like, not since

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500 years ago. Yeah, when was the last time a

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prince was arrested? I have no idea. And also,

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if he goes to jail, if he goes to real jail,

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he's getting clapped. He's a known, you know,

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it's very, very likely. He was a pedophile. Pedophiles

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go to jail. Well, what do they know that they're

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putting him in jail first or they're arresting

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him first? Like, what do they know? Because they

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did a bunch of things, right? The first thing

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they do is they stripped him of his princehood,

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right? Exactly. And then they banished him to

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some estate somewhere on the country. And then

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they removed him from the estate. They kicked

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him out of the estate. Yeah. So it's been like

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levels upon levels. So what do they know? I think

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the royal family gets to see the real deal. So

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they probably saw the real deal and were like,

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bro, you're fried. You're going to jail. And

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he might be the first, he might get like clapped

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in jail. Jesus. Someone might get royal. Royal

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asshole? Yeah, he might get royal fucking pussy

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in jail. Don't you think they have him in, did

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they have protective custody in New England?

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For sure, he'll be in protective custody for

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sure. Do they have that over there? They'll probably

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make a jail for him. I would imagine they do.

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I think anything we have here, I would imagine

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they have protective custody. Because if you're

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even, if people even think you're a pedophile

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in jail, they're going to. Do you think that

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starts like a whole cascade and then a bunch

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of other people start getting arrested? No, I

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think they're going to hang him up and be like,

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we got him. I don't believe that all these billionaires

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are going to let themselves get arrested. They

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have billions of dollars. Paris prosecutors opened

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two new Epstein -linked investigations. Uh -oh.

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With who? I think it's the Jean -Luc guy. Who's

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that? Who's a co -conspirator. He also died in

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custody in jail. God damn it, not again. So they

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reopened the investigation on that. And somebody

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else, I think, that they just found out that

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was high up in the... I lost it here. How did

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he die in jail? I don't... Officially? Yeah.

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There you go. He was found dead. Okay. Just found

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dead. Oh, he died. How old was he? Yeah, and

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also the Oh, that's a that's about the time dudes

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like that die Yeah, but they didn't ever there's

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a probe and I think they they've reopened the

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probe also of how he died Yeah, that's gonna

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be a tough one itself. Yeah, you're gonna have

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hit some roadblocks I wouldn't be surprised if

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somebody whacked him. We were just talking about

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the guy that Epstein was in jail with, which

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is crazy. If Epstein is alive, some people think

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he's alive. Some people think they scooted him

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out of his cell, switched a body double, killed

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that guy. But why would they put him in jail

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with that gigantic cop who was a contract killer?

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That fucking guy. That's one picture. Show me

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the picture of the tank top picture. That's the

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one. Bro, look at the size of that guy. And this

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guy was a... He was a cop who was a dirty cop

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who was killing drug dealers. Yeah. I mean, maybe

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that was the plan. Be like, all right, we'll

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put him in here. It'll sound good if this guy

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kills him. Like, oh, man. And then 18 days before

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he died, he complained that his cellmate tried

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to kill him. What? Yeah. See if we can find that.

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The different guy? No. Epstein did. No, I'm saying

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was he complaining about the murderous cop or

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is this a different guy? That's crazy, dude.

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That's crazy. Also, how did he try to kill him

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and not kill him? That's what I was just going

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to say. What the fuck are you talking about?

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Epstein slipped away and just sat in the corner.

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I mean, maybe he screamed loud enough and the

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guards came. The night Jeffrey Epstein claimed

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his cellmate tried to kill him. So he laid in

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a fetal position on the floor of his jail cell,

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unresponsive with an orange fabric nude. Oh,

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this is when they found him. 18 days before Epstein's

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death, he wasn't breathing. His eyes were opening.

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Oh, so this was when they found him. Oh, so they

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found him in the fetal position? Oh, no, this

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was the orange fabric noose. That's when they

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found him dead. Okay. 18 days before Epstein.

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No. Okay. So it is saying that. So it's saying

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that he had an orange noose tied around his neck

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18 days before he died. What? What? What the

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fuck? What? So July 23rd, 2019, 18 days before

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Epstein's death. He wasn't breathing, his eyes

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opening and shutting occasionally, but he wouldn't

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or couldn't respond to officers' questions and

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commands, according to a confidential corrections

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officer's memo obtained by CBS News. They hoisted

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inmate 76318054 onto a stretcher. Officials have

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repeatedly said Epstein's death. eventual death

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by suicide was foreshadowed by this earlier alleged

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attempt. Former Attorney General Bill Barr reiterated

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that claim in an August closed -door deposition

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before the House Oversight Committee, which released

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the interview transcript last week. Barr, who

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did not reply to questions from CBS News, said

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in his testimony he knew about the July 23rd

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incident, which he viewed as an attempted suicide.

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Barr said he considered it indicative of Epstein's

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state of mind. But jail staff memos, other never

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before reported documents obtained by CBS News,

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as well as interviews with more than a dozen

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people who interacted with Epstein before and

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after the incident, reveal a murkier picture

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than the one depicted by Barr. The new documents

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have surfaced amid persistent speculation over

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Epstein's death, despite official conclusions

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that he died by suicide. So he's laying on the

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floor and his bunkie is screaming, I did nothing.

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I banged on my door to get him out of my cell.

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The source said, corruptions officers carried

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Epstein to his cell on a different floor as he

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remained unresponsive. Was it the same cop, the

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contract killer cop? Yep, right. He told them

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he thought he'd been attacked by his cellmate,

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an ex -cop who was awaiting trial on four murders.

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But they're saying that was an attempted suicide?

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They tried to frame it as an attempted suicide.

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No, I would imagine he doesn't have a way to

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contact the outside world and just tweet about

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this. He can't make an Instagram video. Hey,

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guys, this guy's trying to fucking kill me. He

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sat up on the bed and began telling me that he

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thinks his bunkie tried to kill him, a responding

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officer wrote in one memo. A senior officer wrote

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in a separate incident report that Epstein initially

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implicated his cellmate in the incident, claiming

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he had previously said things that made Epstein

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feel threatened. So Nicholas Tartaglione, his

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cellmate, repeatedly disputed the initial allegation,

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I did nothing, and said he tried to revive him.

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As with Epstein's eventual death, any camera

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footage of the incident was either mislaid, lost,

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or never captured by the facility's faulty system.

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Tartaglione has not responded to emailed questions

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from CBS News. How odd. His lawyer said Epstein's

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initial claim that Tartaglione tried to kill

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him was flatly not true. So maybe he did try.

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I mean, you know, there's a chance he did try

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to kill himself and was like, shit, I don't want

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to get. And then his guy saved him. He said he

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saved him. So it says it right here. Scroll back

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up a little bit. Tartaglione said in a recent

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interview, the house and that Epstein also left

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a suicide note and it even offered Tartaglione

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money to kill him. What? Neither of those details,

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if true, are referenced in any of the Bureau

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of Prison Records that were reviewed by CBS News.

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So if you scroll up higher, it says he said he

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saved his life the first time. So it's saying

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that he saved his life. He yelled when the guy,

00:18:19.359 --> 00:18:22.279
his attorney says this. Yeah, yeah. He's saying

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he tried to kill himself once. Yeah, but that's

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just his attorney saying that. Yeah, for sure.

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You know. Epstein claimed to both corrections

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officers and the source that he felt threatened

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by Tartaglione, a hulking retired cop turned

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drug dealer who was charged and later convicted

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for four murders. Just how could you take the

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most high profile defendant ever and put him

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in a cage with a murderer? His bunkie told him

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that if he beat him up because of Epstein's child

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sex trafficking charges, the officers would not

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report it. Oh, that's what he told him. Allegedly.

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The wealthy former financier told jail officers

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that he believed Tartaglione was trying to extort

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money from him and stated that if he didn't pay

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him that he was going to beat him up. The officer

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wrote, he stated that this has been going on

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for a week. Then that guy saying Epstein was

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trying to pay me to kill him for himself. You

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would think they could find a middle ground,

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man. Well, someone's lying. Yeah, I know. That's

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the craziest. There's too many plot holes. There's

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no way. Imagine, like, who's saying, I'll pay

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you to kill me. Yeah. Also, it's like, wait,

00:19:32.589 --> 00:19:33.589
how are we going to do that? How are we going

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to work this all out? Yeah, the guy's already,

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well, that, and then what's he going to do with

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the money? Exactly. How's he going to get the

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money? I guess you can give it if you know somebody,

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you know, you love, you can give it to them.

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Right. Does he have money or does all of his

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money go to the victim's families? Like he killed

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four people. Shit, man. He might be right. Yeah.

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So it'd have to be like an offshore account that

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like gets slipped over to the prison so he could

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buy cigarettes. If anyone can do it. If anyone

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can do it, it's Jeffrey Epstein, man. But it

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would have to be worked out in advance. Like

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you would have to have the cigarettes in the

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commissary. Yeah. Okay. Time to kill you. Dude,

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I think it's just one of those things, and I

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don't know if people want to wrap their heads

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around it, but there's just people who do things

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in this world on behalf of uber billionaires

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that we're just never going to know what's going

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on. For sure. They do horrible, terrible secret

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stuff. And they always have. Yeah, always. This

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is the thing. If you go throughout history, there's

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always been secret societies and people that

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get together at creepy meetings. All that eyes

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wide shut shit that Qbert put in his film, that's

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not... He's not imagining that. No. That's always

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been a thing. The officer that discovered his

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body dead in August was originally charged with

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falsifying documents related to his death, but

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those charges were dropped. Hmm. I wonder what

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the falsifying of the documents was. I don't

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know. I don't know. Who knows? Maybe people charged

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it to try to open up the paperwork or whatever.

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Here it is. Because Epstein was on suicide watch

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after the July 23rd incident, Thomas was required

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to record a log of observations about Epstein

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in 15 -minute increments. Those notations were

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released by the Bureau of Prisons in 2023, along

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with just one entry he made in the log, a note

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made at 2 .15 a .m., 45 minutes after the incident.

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15 minutes later, at 2 .30, Thomas wrote, Inmate

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sitting on bed trying to remember what happened.

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Huh. Yeah, man. So this is when he got attacked,

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the first time that he survived. Huh. They claim

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once he got into the separate cell, he was trying

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to fall forward on his head or something, sat

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on the edge of the bed and began moving forward

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as if he was attempting to fall overhead first.

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Huh. He was told to stop, don't do it again,

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and he gave a thumbs up. That's how they confirm

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he was trying to commit suicide. So he's gonna

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try to commit suicide by falling straight on

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his head? That's impossible. That's literally

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impossible. You might be able to pull it off.

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That's crazy. You would block for sure. Right.

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There's no way you can just do a sailor. I was

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like thinking about this the other day. I was

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walking off my steps. I was like, even if I tried,

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I couldn't do like a swan dive on the cement.

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Your body wouldn't let you do it. Yeah, you would

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resist just enough to be paralyzed for the rest

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of your life. You would get fucked up for sure.

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I don't know. I think you would just kind of

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flatten out and flail. Yeah, because guys die

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all the time in street fights when they get knocked

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out, and then they fall, and they hit their head

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on the concrete. Dude, it happened before I left

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Philly a year or so ago. There was a guy just

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walking his dog off leash, and this guy was like,

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put your dog on leash. They started arguing,

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and a guy punched him, and he hit his head and

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died. And then my brother went on an online date

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with the— fiance of the guy who died and like

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learned throughout the date like oh shit you're

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the lady he was married what a bummer of a date

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it was pretty fucking sad actually he like put

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it together and he's like oh fuck he died that

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sucks how long after that was the date I think

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it was maybe a year and a half it's been some

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time you know not enough to stop the crime yeah

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I mean you gotta pick it up at one point especially

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if he died like that man got punched on a dog

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walk and died I don't know. A dog walk with a

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helmet in Philly? If I was a lady, I'd be like,

00:23:06.740 --> 00:23:08.740
well, fuck, I dodged a bullet. A husband could

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have just died. Yeah, that's scary, though, man.

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The whole thing of altercations and people popping

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off to each other anymore is just like... I was

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walking down the street recently, and I had the

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right of way. I walked, and I didn't even rush

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in front of the car. The car pulled up and was

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like, get the fuck out. He threatened to shoot

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me in the face. I was just like, what the hell,

00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:31.859
man? Yeah, it was like he had pulled off far

00:23:31.859 --> 00:23:33.279
enough. He's like, I'll shoot you in your fucking

00:23:33.279 --> 00:23:35.119
face. And I was just like, please don't. Like,

00:23:35.160 --> 00:23:37.480
you know, the fuck, man. What are you doing?

00:23:37.599 --> 00:23:40.420
Bro, you never know who's unhinged. I know. You

00:23:40.420 --> 00:23:43.559
never know what's going on in that life. Divorce,

00:23:43.559 --> 00:23:46.799
fucking this, that. Just got fired. About to

00:23:46.799 --> 00:23:49.880
go to jail. Who knows? Yeah. Who knows? Dude,

00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:52.500
yeah. Best friend was fucking your wife. Could

00:23:52.500 --> 00:23:55.319
be literally anything. Yeah. Anything. I never.

00:23:55.539 --> 00:23:57.400
It's like, yeah, whatever, man. So many people

00:23:57.400 --> 00:24:00.000
are barely hanging on out there. Doing something

00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:03.140
all day they hate. Yeah. Just fucking tired.

00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:06.440
Life's in a shambles. Dude, and especially, like,

00:24:06.539 --> 00:24:08.980
people just talk shit to strangers. Like, you

00:24:08.980 --> 00:24:10.859
have no idea who that person is. I don't know,

00:24:10.900 --> 00:24:12.400
you know, who knows if this is, like, just, like,

00:24:12.420 --> 00:24:14.720
an old construction worker tale. My dad was telling

00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:18.339
me some guy he knows, his mom or whatever, or,

00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:20.000
like, you know, his friend's mom was at the grocery

00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:22.299
store. Someone backed, they were, like, both

00:24:22.299 --> 00:24:23.640
going for a parking spot. It was, like, an old

00:24:23.640 --> 00:24:25.339
lady, and the guy was, like, fucking bitch, get

00:24:25.339 --> 00:24:27.039
the hell out, blah, blah, blah. Started cursing

00:24:27.039 --> 00:24:29.420
her out. Her son came out of jail for like, you

00:24:29.420 --> 00:24:30.880
know, like he was like a biker, all this stuff.

00:24:31.119 --> 00:24:32.700
And they all like knew each other in the neighborhood.

00:24:32.740 --> 00:24:34.519
Apparently the guy who had like cursed out the

00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:36.259
mom, they were like, nobody ever saw him again.

00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:39.359
So if that's true, it's like, gee, I always think

00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:41.099
about that. I'm like, dude, that's, you know,

00:24:41.140 --> 00:24:42.559
you just can't be, you shouldn't yell at an old

00:24:42.559 --> 00:24:44.799
lady anyway, but you just have no idea who you're

00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:46.759
dealing with. Right. Just might as well chill.

00:24:46.839 --> 00:24:49.460
That was one of the creepier things about the

00:24:49.460 --> 00:24:53.519
Epstein emails. or the files, the data, was that

00:24:53.519 --> 00:24:58.579
he ordered 330 gallons of sulfuric acid after

00:24:58.579 --> 00:25:02.160
he'd been indicted? What does that do? Dissolves

00:25:02.160 --> 00:25:07.000
bodies. Oh, no. Yeah. So they were trying to

00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:10.299
speculate that maybe that was for his desalination

00:25:10.299 --> 00:25:14.799
system that he had. He had a water system. Some

00:25:14.799 --> 00:25:18.160
sulfuric acid cleans it out. But then Jamie looked

00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:21.039
into it. He had only ordered it once before ever,

00:25:21.200 --> 00:25:25.200
but never that much. Yeah. That's terrible. Also,

00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:28.440
he lives near the ocean. Why don't you just go

00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:30.440
in the ocean? What do you mean? You've got to

00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:31.880
get rid of bodies. You live on an island. You

00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:33.500
just go out to water. Yeah, but they could find

00:25:33.500 --> 00:25:35.779
it. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah, they might find it.

00:25:35.900 --> 00:25:38.240
Yeah. You can't have that. True. Especially if

00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:39.559
you have enough that you need a bunch of acid.

00:25:39.880 --> 00:25:42.779
Do they have a lot of sharks down there? I would

00:25:42.779 --> 00:25:46.220
think. Yeah. Like the Bahamas, right? It's like

00:25:46.220 --> 00:25:48.140
Bahamas area? Yeah, I would think so. There's

00:25:48.140 --> 00:25:50.180
like sharks in Florida. I was just in Florida.

00:25:50.500 --> 00:25:52.079
Florida has a lot of sharks, especially bull

00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:54.339
sharks. Yeah, exactly. I was swimming. I brought

00:25:54.339 --> 00:25:56.400
my friend with me to do shows, and he was like,

00:25:56.480 --> 00:25:57.960
I'm worried about sharks. There's no fucking

00:25:57.960 --> 00:25:59.920
sharks out here. We got back, and the Uber driver

00:25:59.920 --> 00:26:01.579
was like, yeah, this is like shark season right

00:26:01.579 --> 00:26:03.900
now. I was like, oh, my bad. Shark season? Yeah.

00:26:04.220 --> 00:26:05.799
I think it's the bull sharks. They see them all

00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:07.779
the time. Bull sharks are scary. They're the

00:26:07.779 --> 00:26:10.019
ones that they think are responsible for the

00:26:10.019 --> 00:26:13.000
murders in New Jersey that inspired Jaws. Really?

00:26:13.099 --> 00:26:17.259
Yeah. How big do they get? They don't get as

00:26:17.259 --> 00:26:19.619
big as great whites, but the thing about them

00:26:19.619 --> 00:26:22.690
is they can swim in fresh water. So those murders,

00:26:22.829 --> 00:26:28.049
those deaths by shark in New Jersey in the early

00:26:28.049 --> 00:26:33.450
1900s, they were in a river. What? Yeah. So these

00:26:33.450 --> 00:26:35.170
people were swimming in a river, and they got

00:26:35.170 --> 00:26:37.349
killed by sharks. Yeah, you would never expect

00:26:37.349 --> 00:26:40.150
it either. Bull sharks are very aggressive, too.

00:26:40.289 --> 00:26:43.230
Are they really? Super aggressive. There's the

00:26:43.230 --> 00:26:46.210
Florida Keys. Guys fish off the piers down there,

00:26:46.289 --> 00:26:49.500
and it's really great fishing. But if you catch

00:26:49.500 --> 00:26:51.619
a big fish and you're struggling to get it on

00:26:51.619 --> 00:26:53.720
the line, most likely a shark's going to kill

00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:55.359
it. Really? Yeah, most likely you're going to

00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:57.180
get it bitten in half. There's, like, tons of

00:26:57.180 --> 00:26:59.980
videos of guys pulling in fish and the shark

00:26:59.980 --> 00:27:02.480
just snaps it in half while they're pulling it

00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:04.480
in. That's terrifying. They're all over the place

00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:06.539
down there, dude. I went to Turks and Caicos.

00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:08.579
Me and my family went down there, my kids. We

00:27:08.579 --> 00:27:11.420
went snorkeling. And, you know, the guy takes

00:27:11.420 --> 00:27:13.839
us out and he's like, hey, we, like, you know,

00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:15.200
got in the area where we're going to jump in.

00:27:15.220 --> 00:27:16.660
He's like, hey, there's some baby sharks out

00:27:16.660 --> 00:27:18.789
there. Um, you know, but they're not going to

00:27:18.789 --> 00:27:21.289
bother you. I'm like, what the fuck does that

00:27:21.289 --> 00:27:22.789
mean? Exactly. And I have like, I've had fucking

00:27:22.789 --> 00:27:24.930
like two and a four year old with me. So I jump

00:27:24.930 --> 00:27:26.730
in. I'm like, let me suss it out. I'm going to

00:27:26.730 --> 00:27:29.789
go see. Dude, I go down and like, these were

00:27:29.789 --> 00:27:31.829
like, you know, they weren't like 18 foot sharks,

00:27:31.950 --> 00:27:34.309
but they were like five, six. They were like

00:27:34.309 --> 00:27:36.650
big enough, but they were 40. It was like probably

00:27:36.650 --> 00:27:39.349
40 feet deep. And then they were like at the

00:27:39.349 --> 00:27:42.009
bottom, but then another 50 feet away. And I

00:27:42.009 --> 00:27:43.470
was like, bro, I'm not bringing my kids in here.

00:27:43.690 --> 00:27:45.609
Yeah. I'm trying to find this video that my friend

00:27:45.609 --> 00:27:49.910
Adam sent me. of uh sharks in florida because

00:27:49.910 --> 00:27:52.029
i always give him shit he lives in australia

00:27:52.029 --> 00:27:54.069
and i always give him shit like bro you live

00:27:54.069 --> 00:27:55.869
in a place filled with monsters what the fuck

00:27:55.869 --> 00:27:59.549
are you doing because it's true florida florida

00:27:59.549 --> 00:28:02.950
has a lot but australia has more australia has

00:28:02.950 --> 00:28:06.049
saltwater crocodiles they have great whites but

00:28:06.049 --> 00:28:08.529
he sent me this video and it's like this is in

00:28:08.529 --> 00:28:12.690
america mate and it's uh these guys are throwing

00:28:12.690 --> 00:28:16.170
god i can't find it these guys are throwing um

00:28:16.700 --> 00:28:18.980
fish into the water. No, I'm not going to find

00:28:18.980 --> 00:28:21.160
it. They're throwing fish into the water right

00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:24.980
next to the shore, and it's just sharks, like

00:28:24.980 --> 00:28:28.319
piranhas, just smashing, and they're off a dock.

00:28:28.539 --> 00:28:30.880
Dude. They're just throwing fish scraps in there,

00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:34.339
and the sharks are apparently used to it, I guess.

00:28:34.980 --> 00:28:38.200
That's terrifying. Yeah. Dude, I... Oh, here

00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:40.640
it is. I found it. Nice. Here, hold on. I'll

00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:42.980
send it to you, Jimmy. Dude, dolphins. Did you

00:28:42.980 --> 00:28:44.900
ever see a dolphin in real life? Yes. They're

00:28:44.900 --> 00:28:46.599
scary as hell. Those things are huge. I swam

00:28:46.599 --> 00:28:48.500
with them. I did it too. I was in Mexico and

00:28:48.500 --> 00:28:50.240
I thought I was going to be like, you know, gliding

00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:51.759
on two of them. I was like barely wanting to

00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:53.839
touch this thing. I did it in Hawaii. You jump

00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:56.519
off the boat and you snorkel. Yeah. You get to

00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:58.539
see them swimming under. It's really wild. Check

00:28:58.539 --> 00:29:00.619
this out. So this guy throws these scraps in

00:29:00.619 --> 00:29:06.880
the water. Look at these sharks. God damn. How

00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:09.039
crazy is that? Look at these things fight for

00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:11.799
this. Look how many of them there are. Yeah,

00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:16.210
that's... Well, that's crazy. Look how big they

00:29:16.210 --> 00:29:18.609
are. Yeah, more than big enough to take your

00:29:18.609 --> 00:29:20.569
legs off. Go ahead, dick wagon. Throw it in.

00:29:20.609 --> 00:29:26.410
Go ahead, dick wagon. Why? I'd be so mad if I

00:29:26.410 --> 00:29:27.630
was his neighbor. I'd be like, dude, I'm trying

00:29:27.630 --> 00:29:29.829
to paddleboard, man. Well, I think this is just

00:29:29.829 --> 00:29:31.730
what they do every day, which is why the sharks

00:29:31.730 --> 00:29:33.910
are there in the first place. I think when these

00:29:33.910 --> 00:29:35.809
guys get there, you know, when they fillet the

00:29:35.809 --> 00:29:37.690
fish, they have the bodies. They just tuck the

00:29:37.690 --> 00:29:39.490
body overboard, and these sharks just destroy

00:29:39.490 --> 00:29:42.170
it. Yeah. How spooky is that? It's terrifying,

00:29:42.369 --> 00:29:45.809
dude. Yeah. That's Florida. That's crazy. Where's

00:29:45.809 --> 00:29:48.589
Marco Island? I don't know. Where is that? Where's

00:29:48.589 --> 00:29:50.849
Marco Island? It's probably the key somewhere.

00:29:50.849 --> 00:29:53.150
Probably. That's fucking, that's awful. Florida's

00:29:53.150 --> 00:29:55.730
filled with monsters. Like that whole thing that

00:29:55.730 --> 00:29:57.670
they're doing with ice where they've got that

00:29:57.670 --> 00:30:02.230
alligator Guantanamo. You know, they built a

00:30:02.230 --> 00:30:05.509
Guantanamo for detainees and then they surrounded

00:30:05.509 --> 00:30:08.029
it with alligator country. Like a cartoon moat?

00:30:08.230 --> 00:30:09.829
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's fucking crazy. Check

00:30:09.829 --> 00:30:12.390
this out. Okay, so where is it? It's like opposite

00:30:12.390 --> 00:30:16.410
of Miami. Oh, okay. Okay, so it's not the Keys.

00:30:16.509 --> 00:30:19.730
It's just Florida. Crazy. Damn, so they have

00:30:19.730 --> 00:30:22.130
a classical moat with alligators around it? Well,

00:30:22.130 --> 00:30:24.250
it's not essentially a moat. What's it, an island,

00:30:24.309 --> 00:30:26.549
I guess? How did they do it? Did they build an

00:30:26.549 --> 00:30:29.369
island down there? Is that what they did? Somebody

00:30:29.369 --> 00:30:31.730
got a sweet contract to put that in there. They're

00:30:31.730 --> 00:30:34.410
calling it Alligator Alcatraz. Yeah, they call

00:30:34.410 --> 00:30:37.910
it Alligator Alcatraz. What does it look like?

00:30:37.970 --> 00:30:41.589
Can you show us? Damn, dude. Alligators in Florida

00:30:41.589 --> 00:30:44.430
are everywhere. They say there's not a standing

00:30:44.430 --> 00:30:46.829
body of water that doesn't have an alligator.

00:30:46.829 --> 00:30:48.190
I know. My friends were just at Disney World,

00:30:48.269 --> 00:30:49.890
and they said, they're like, is there alligators

00:30:49.890 --> 00:30:51.230
around here? Like, yeah, we flush them out all

00:30:51.230 --> 00:30:53.029
the time. One killed a kid a few years back.

00:30:53.049 --> 00:30:55.029
I heard about that. Yeah. Reached up and just

00:30:55.029 --> 00:30:56.690
snagged him. Bro, imagine your little toddler

00:30:56.690 --> 00:30:59.630
at Disneyland just saw Cinderella having a good

00:30:59.630 --> 00:31:01.650
time. That's got to be fast pass. That's fast

00:31:01.650 --> 00:31:03.170
pass for life, though, for the rest of the family.

00:31:03.750 --> 00:31:07.799
So that is all the Everglades. And the Everglades

00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:10.319
is just filled. Like, if you go walking, like,

00:31:10.359 --> 00:31:12.380
I'm out of here. Fuck that. Like, something's

00:31:12.380 --> 00:31:14.759
probably going to get you. No. The Everglades

00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:17.460
are so fucked because it's not just the alligators.

00:31:17.460 --> 00:31:20.460
It's also the pythons. There's giant pythons.

00:31:20.900 --> 00:31:26.140
Fuck, dude. AI's so ruthless. I know. That's

00:31:26.140 --> 00:31:28.279
fucking alligators with ice hats on. Dude, the

00:31:28.279 --> 00:31:30.440
pythons are another. Because they catch you while

00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:31.980
you're sleeping. So you lay down to sleep and

00:31:31.980 --> 00:31:33.849
you just wake up and you're just. Are there more

00:31:33.849 --> 00:31:37.250
pythons in the Everglades than there are anywhere

00:31:37.250 --> 00:31:40.670
in the world? No way. Because there's a half

00:31:40.670 --> 00:31:42.609
a million of them, they think. Did you ever hear

00:31:42.609 --> 00:31:45.170
about Snake Island in Brazil? No. Dude, there's

00:31:45.170 --> 00:31:48.849
an island in Brazil that I guess whatever tectonic

00:31:48.849 --> 00:31:50.509
plates or whatever moved, it used to be connected

00:31:50.509 --> 00:31:52.970
to the mainland. It went out and all the snakes

00:31:52.970 --> 00:31:54.950
just got stuck on there with no natural predators.

00:31:55.549 --> 00:31:56.750
So what do they do? They just eat each other?

00:31:56.910 --> 00:31:58.730
Yeah, they just fight and eat each other. Dude,

00:31:59.009 --> 00:32:01.029
there's apparently a snake. Like every meter

00:32:01.029 --> 00:32:04.069
you move, there's at least one snake. What? Dude,

00:32:04.130 --> 00:32:06.549
the images are terrifying. They're like just

00:32:06.549 --> 00:32:08.490
piled on top of each other. There are not more

00:32:08.490 --> 00:32:10.329
pythons in the Everglades than anywhere else.

00:32:10.349 --> 00:32:12.450
The Burmese pythons' native range in Southeast

00:32:12.450 --> 00:32:16.089
Asia from India to Indonesia supports far larger

00:32:16.089 --> 00:32:19.150
wild populations, though exact numbers are hard

00:32:19.150 --> 00:32:22.009
to quantify due to their vast habitat. Everglades

00:32:22.009 --> 00:32:24.470
context, Burmese pythons are invasive species.

00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:26.799
Florida Everglades with estimates ranging from

00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:30.960
tens of thousands to 300 ,000 individuals across

00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:33.359
southern Florida concentrated in Everglades National

00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:37.070
Park where their density is notably high. Population

00:32:37.070 --> 00:32:40.410
exploded from a few snakes in the 90s to enveloping

00:32:40.410 --> 00:32:42.829
much of the region by the 2020s, driven by the

00:32:42.829 --> 00:32:45.970
release from pet trade and events like Hurricane

00:32:45.970 --> 00:32:48.170
Andrew. Yeah, they had Hurricane Andrew apparently

00:32:48.170 --> 00:32:51.349
blew down a facility where they were studying

00:32:51.349 --> 00:32:53.369
pythons. No, and that's how they got out. A bunch

00:32:53.369 --> 00:32:54.950
of them got out. And then there's also people

00:32:54.950 --> 00:32:57.190
with pets, just assholes in death metal bands.

00:32:57.430 --> 00:32:58.930
Yeah, they just dropped them. Yeah, they just

00:32:58.930 --> 00:33:01.849
dropped them. There's, what do you call it, parakeets

00:33:01.849 --> 00:33:04.049
here. They're like an invasive species, and they

00:33:04.049 --> 00:33:05.369
think that happened, too. Someone just, like,

00:33:05.390 --> 00:33:07.509
let their parakeets out, and now they're a problem

00:33:07.509 --> 00:33:10.150
here. That's iguanas in Florida, too. You know,

00:33:10.170 --> 00:33:12.450
they sell canned iguana meat in Florida now.

00:33:12.710 --> 00:33:14.250
Really? Yeah, a buddy of mine lives in Florida.

00:33:14.349 --> 00:33:17.369
He just sent me this. He sent me—he was at the

00:33:17.369 --> 00:33:22.349
supermarket, and they have iguana meat. Probably

00:33:22.349 --> 00:33:25.769
not bad. Dude, I'm telling you, the Snake Island,

00:33:25.910 --> 00:33:28.480
I was like— I thought it was fake. My wife was

00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:29.660
telling me about it. I'm like, dude, you got

00:33:29.660 --> 00:33:31.559
tricked. This has to be AI. I looked it up, and

00:33:31.559 --> 00:33:33.519
it's like, it's a real thing. Let me see that

00:33:33.519 --> 00:33:35.960
iguana meat. It would probably be good. I've

00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.059
eaten gator before. Gator's not bad. This might

00:33:38.059 --> 00:33:41.059
be fake. I think it is. God damn it. I'm Googling,

00:33:41.059 --> 00:33:43.240
and there's a pizza restaurant that got in trouble

00:33:43.240 --> 00:33:46.599
for serving it. Really? But nothing else is popping

00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:48.440
up about candy. They got in trouble for serving

00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:50.420
it? Did they tell people they were serving it?

00:33:50.539 --> 00:33:52.160
I don't think so. You know, because people eat

00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:54.430
them. They hunt them and eat them all the time.

00:33:54.470 --> 00:33:56.109
I was watching a YouTube video the other day

00:33:56.109 --> 00:33:57.849
where this guy was making, like, stir -fried

00:33:57.849 --> 00:34:00.309
iguana meat. Well, they get massive. They get

00:34:00.309 --> 00:34:02.609
massive. Yeah. Yeah, and they apparently taste

00:34:02.609 --> 00:34:05.529
good. Probably. They're aggressive, too. If you

00:34:05.529 --> 00:34:06.990
see them in the wild, they'll, like, charge after

00:34:06.990 --> 00:34:10.250
you. They're nasty, man. They're big. Yeah. Some

00:34:10.250 --> 00:34:12.150
of them get, like, four or five feet long. Yeah,

00:34:12.389 --> 00:34:13.909
they're huge. Which is nuts. That was another

00:34:13.909 --> 00:34:15.710
animal I encountered in Turks and Caicos. We

00:34:15.710 --> 00:34:18.110
did the shark swimming, and I was like, all right,

00:34:18.170 --> 00:34:19.329
I let them, like, get out of the way. And then

00:34:19.329 --> 00:34:20.710
we went to this island that was just full of

00:34:20.710 --> 00:34:22.989
iguanas, and they'll just run up on you. Do you

00:34:22.989 --> 00:34:24.349
know in Florida, when it gets really cold, they

00:34:24.349 --> 00:34:26.289
just fall out of trees? No. That's hilarious.

00:34:26.730 --> 00:34:29.570
Because sometimes Florida, it'll dip. It'll get

00:34:29.570 --> 00:34:31.730
into the 30s, and these fuckers just fall out

00:34:31.730 --> 00:34:34.469
of the trees like stoned. They just freeze and

00:34:34.469 --> 00:34:36.010
just drop. They freeze, and then they thaw out

00:34:36.010 --> 00:34:39.110
and come back to life. What? Yeah. Fuck. That's

00:34:39.110 --> 00:34:42.190
an ancient species. These are ancient creatures.

00:34:42.829 --> 00:34:46.070
Damn. I thought they're cold -blooded and they

00:34:46.070 --> 00:34:48.309
die. I guess they can just chill. Well, so are

00:34:48.309 --> 00:34:51.309
alligators, and alligators freeze in lakes sometimes

00:34:51.309 --> 00:34:54.289
with their mouths above the water. They have

00:34:54.289 --> 00:34:56.269
their nose and their eyes above the water, and

00:34:56.269 --> 00:34:58.929
they're frozen. There's a bunch of images of

00:34:58.929 --> 00:35:02.210
these guys frozen in lakes. I guess everything

00:35:02.210 --> 00:35:04.010
just slows down and they just chill. They don't

00:35:04.010 --> 00:35:06.829
have to eat for a year. What? Yeah, they can

00:35:06.829 --> 00:35:09.239
go without eating for a whole year. So how much

00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:11.360
do you think we really have to eat? If alligators

00:35:11.360 --> 00:35:13.380
– if bears don't have to eat all winter, alligators

00:35:13.380 --> 00:35:15.639
can go one year. Like do you think – I always

00:35:15.639 --> 00:35:17.880
think like do we have to eat every day? Well,

00:35:17.940 --> 00:35:20.420
we definitely eat more than any people have ever

00:35:20.420 --> 00:35:22.679
had. True. Except like royals. Yeah. You know,

00:35:22.699 --> 00:35:24.880
that's why people are so tiny. Like you go back

00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:26.679
to like the Civil War, the average man was like

00:35:26.679 --> 00:35:29.400
130 pounds. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah, because

00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:31.960
nobody had any food. You know, nobody had any

00:35:31.960 --> 00:35:36.659
protein. Yeah. But if you think about – How much

00:35:36.659 --> 00:35:40.460
we eat, morning, noon, and then evening, hunter

00:35:40.460 --> 00:35:44.860
-gatherers, they got a meal a day. If you got

00:35:44.860 --> 00:35:46.719
lucky, you had a meal and you ate as much as

00:35:46.719 --> 00:35:48.079
you could because there's no way to preserve

00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:50.679
it. And then you went out the next day and hoped

00:35:50.679 --> 00:35:52.639
you got another animal. Yeah, that's kind of

00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:55.159
wild. You must have spent like 6 ,000 calories

00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:57.360
a day just trying to get one meal. Yeah, and

00:35:57.360 --> 00:35:59.980
then other than drying your meat out, there's

00:35:59.980 --> 00:36:02.340
no way to preserve it. So they would make jerky

00:36:02.340 --> 00:36:06.389
or... You know, like, I know in Mexico, some

00:36:06.389 --> 00:36:08.230
friends of mine went down there, and they have

00:36:08.230 --> 00:36:11.150
this traditional way of taking buffalo, and they

00:36:11.150 --> 00:36:13.610
slice it, like, really, really thin, and then

00:36:13.610 --> 00:36:16.409
they hang it on, like, a clothes hanger and dry

00:36:16.409 --> 00:36:18.949
it out. Really? Yeah. That's all you need to

00:36:18.949 --> 00:36:20.969
do? Well, that's what they had to do. They had

00:36:20.969 --> 00:36:22.989
to figure out how to dry stuff. Yeah. Because,

00:36:22.989 --> 00:36:25.889
you know, there's no—man, how fucking hard life

00:36:25.889 --> 00:36:28.110
must have been with no refrigeration. Dude, it

00:36:28.110 --> 00:36:31.929
would suck so bad. Suck so bad, man. That's like

00:36:31.929 --> 00:36:33.730
when you go back to the turn of the century,

00:36:33.769 --> 00:36:35.889
all the diseases were happening in America. Just

00:36:35.889 --> 00:36:37.869
think about it. No running water. Everybody's

00:36:37.869 --> 00:36:40.869
like shitting in holes in the ground outside

00:36:40.869 --> 00:36:43.590
the houses. There's no ventilation. There's no

00:36:43.590 --> 00:36:47.750
air conditioning. No vitamins. Especially here.

00:36:47.869 --> 00:36:51.230
How do people live in Texas? Hard people. It

00:36:51.230 --> 00:36:54.070
must have been crazy. Hard people. Yeah. Hard

00:36:54.070 --> 00:36:57.889
fucking people. I've been reading Lonesome Dove

00:36:57.889 --> 00:36:59.670
right now. It's like an old classic Western.

00:37:00.230 --> 00:37:02.250
And they just talk about how hot they are all

00:37:02.250 --> 00:37:04.690
day long. It's just dust in their face. And it's

00:37:04.690 --> 00:37:06.690
like, dude, that shit would suck. Especially

00:37:06.690 --> 00:37:08.570
if you don't live near a lake so you can cool

00:37:08.570 --> 00:37:10.630
off a little bit. Oh, no. There's like, yeah,

00:37:10.710 --> 00:37:12.369
they have like a spring house. And every time

00:37:12.369 --> 00:37:14.130
they get water, there's just rattlesnakes everywhere

00:37:14.130 --> 00:37:15.869
near the spring house. It's like, dude, that

00:37:15.869 --> 00:37:18.730
sucks so bad. There's a great book about Texas

00:37:18.730 --> 00:37:22.610
called Empire of the Summer Moon. Oh, I've heard

00:37:22.610 --> 00:37:25.210
of that before. It's all about the settlers encountering

00:37:25.210 --> 00:37:28.000
the Comanche. You got to think like if the Comanche,

00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:29.980
if this is where they lived and they lived here

00:37:29.980 --> 00:37:32.360
year round, like they had to be the hardest fucking

00:37:32.360 --> 00:37:34.079
people in the world. Yeah, dude. That would be

00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:37.500
brutal. Just had to be fucking just tough as

00:37:37.500 --> 00:37:39.659
fuck. Especially when it gets like freezing too.

00:37:39.739 --> 00:37:41.219
They have like that two weeks where it's super

00:37:41.219 --> 00:37:43.400
cold and yeah, that would be. You never know

00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:45.340
when it's coming back then either. You couldn't

00:37:45.340 --> 00:37:47.659
prepare. Like Texas, like right now it's 80.

00:37:47.900 --> 00:37:50.840
Two weeks ago it was 30. Before that it was 20.

00:37:51.099 --> 00:37:53.900
Before that it was 70. Like you don't know when

00:37:53.900 --> 00:37:57.440
it's coming. No. I've been here for two years

00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:00.480
and I know we're going to get like a solid collective

00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:03.360
week of real winter. And the rest of it's just

00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:06.860
like 50, 60, 70, 80, 20, 40. It's worth it. I

00:38:06.860 --> 00:38:08.320
think it's perfect because it gives you just

00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:10.739
enough cold so you appreciate the warm, just

00:38:10.739 --> 00:38:12.940
enough, but nothing like where you want to kill

00:38:12.940 --> 00:38:15.440
yourself. Yeah, I agree. Nothing like there's,

00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:18.360
you know, Montana winters and Wyoming winters

00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:20.019
where they last like seven months. You're like,

00:38:20.139 --> 00:38:22.760
I don't know if I want to do this. Even regular

00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:24.559
East Coast winter, I couldn't handle it. By the

00:38:24.559 --> 00:38:26.280
time I had left, like you don't feel the sun

00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:28.480
for like at least three months. And I remember

00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:30.960
spring, it would finally like come out and it's

00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:33.809
like. That messes me up. Like, I'd rather it

00:38:33.809 --> 00:38:36.690
be super hot and sunny than be cold. Yeah. Because

00:38:36.690 --> 00:38:38.650
you can just, like, you know, just figure out

00:38:38.650 --> 00:38:40.489
jumping a lake, jumping a pool. Well, you know,

00:38:40.489 --> 00:38:42.909
that's what flu season's all about, too. What?

00:38:43.050 --> 00:38:45.869
It's not like the flu emerges in the winter.

00:38:46.130 --> 00:38:48.630
It's just everybody's immune system's low. No

00:38:48.630 --> 00:38:50.789
one has any vitamin D. A buddy of mine who was

00:38:50.789 --> 00:38:52.809
a doctor said that he would do tests on people

00:38:52.809 --> 00:38:55.570
in New York City, and he said so many people

00:38:55.570 --> 00:38:57.670
would come into his practice that had undetectable

00:38:57.670 --> 00:39:00.119
levels of vitamin D. What? Yeah, because they

00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:02.280
weren't supplementing at all, and they were wearing

00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:03.900
winter clothes, and they were never outside.

00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:06.019
And everybody's sick, and they don't know why.

00:39:06.179 --> 00:39:09.219
Well, you're vitamin D depleted. Yeah. That's

00:39:09.219 --> 00:39:11.559
why in Seattle they have a lot of people go in

00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:13.960
tanning beds and shit. They try to like do something.

00:39:14.219 --> 00:39:16.119
Oh, just to get people. Because tanning beds

00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:19.219
will give you a natural dose of vitamin D. That's

00:39:19.219 --> 00:39:21.440
kind of nice. Yeah. Apparently, isn't it like

00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:23.820
a hormone more than a vitamin? Mm -hmm. Yeah,

00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:25.059
that's what I heard. It's like not even just

00:39:25.059 --> 00:39:27.059
like vitamin A or B. It's like something you

00:39:27.059 --> 00:39:30.099
absolutely need big time. Yeah, a lot of people

00:39:30.099 --> 00:39:32.739
are saying you should hyperdose it too. Because

00:39:32.739 --> 00:39:36.599
the USDA recommended is like 5 ,000 milligrams.

00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:39.730
A lot of people are saying. like 30 ,000 is what

00:39:39.730 --> 00:39:42.070
they take every day. Yeah. I had to do that for

00:39:42.070 --> 00:39:43.690
a while because I had low vitamin D and they

00:39:43.690 --> 00:39:45.050
were like, you can take as much of this as you

00:39:45.050 --> 00:39:47.590
want. I'm like, so I'm like such a baby with

00:39:47.590 --> 00:39:49.670
medicine. Like I'm like super sensitive to it.

00:39:49.690 --> 00:39:51.809
It did like absolutely no side effects at all.

00:39:51.969 --> 00:39:55.730
No, it doesn't. But for full absorption, I think

00:39:55.730 --> 00:39:57.550
you're supposed to take it with a bunch of other

00:39:57.550 --> 00:40:00.409
stuff. Like I think the recommended is I take

00:40:00.409 --> 00:40:04.130
it with K2, vitamin K2 and magnesium. I think

00:40:04.130 --> 00:40:06.670
there might be one other thing that also helps

00:40:06.670 --> 00:40:09.909
absorption. But like Dr. Rhonda Patrick was on

00:40:09.909 --> 00:40:11.650
a podcast recently and she was talking about

00:40:11.650 --> 00:40:14.869
how vitamin D, someone was taking vitamin D but

00:40:14.869 --> 00:40:16.409
they weren't showing any improvement. She's like,

00:40:16.469 --> 00:40:18.969
where are you taking it with magnesium? So magnesium

00:40:18.969 --> 00:40:22.090
apparently helps vitamin D get absorbed in your

00:40:22.090 --> 00:40:23.610
body. Like there's a bunch of those things that

00:40:23.610 --> 00:40:25.949
like works. Like if you take them without any

00:40:25.949 --> 00:40:28.889
fat or any food, they're not good. But then like

00:40:28.889 --> 00:40:30.510
amino acids, you have to take them on an empty

00:40:30.510 --> 00:40:32.309
stomach. It's like you got to know what you're

00:40:32.309 --> 00:40:33.889
doing. That's true. Yeah, I have like a paste.

00:40:33.949 --> 00:40:36.030
It's like a goop that's like fatty and I just

00:40:36.030 --> 00:40:38.329
put it on a spoon and take it. Is it just vitamin

00:40:38.329 --> 00:40:40.730
D? Yeah, it's vitamin D. It's like a liposomal

00:40:40.730 --> 00:40:42.769
thing. Oh, you put it on a spoon? Yeah, I just

00:40:42.769 --> 00:40:44.929
eyeball it. I'm like, that's probably about right.

00:40:45.030 --> 00:40:49.610
I wonder if like liposomal absorbs easier. Isn't

00:40:49.610 --> 00:40:51.130
that the whole idea about it? Yeah, it's paired

00:40:51.130 --> 00:40:53.349
to a fat and it kind of. Right. I wonder if that

00:40:53.349 --> 00:40:55.590
you don't need as much, like where you don't

00:40:55.590 --> 00:40:59.489
need vitamin D or K2 rather. Well, I don't know,

00:40:59.510 --> 00:41:02.949
but I was low and then I'm not now. I'm like,

00:41:02.989 --> 00:41:04.469
maybe it worked. Maybe it was the fact I was

00:41:04.469 --> 00:41:06.349
outside. I don't know. I'm sure it works. Yeah.

00:41:06.409 --> 00:41:08.550
Yeah. It's just like, does it work optimally?

00:41:08.670 --> 00:41:11.289
That's the thing. Yeah. It's like just taking

00:41:11.289 --> 00:41:12.909
it alone is definitely going to be better than

00:41:12.909 --> 00:41:14.869
not taking it at all. But they think that for

00:41:14.869 --> 00:41:17.590
maximum absorption. What are the things that

00:41:17.590 --> 00:41:19.929
you should take with vitamin D for? Put that

00:41:19.929 --> 00:41:23.469
in perfectly. The things you take with vitamin

00:41:23.469 --> 00:41:28.469
D for maximum absorption. It's hard to remember

00:41:28.469 --> 00:41:30.349
all this stuff, too. That's part of the problem.

00:41:30.510 --> 00:41:32.489
Like, I'll hear it on a podcast. I'm like, yeah,

00:41:32.550 --> 00:41:37.690
yeah. Go back. What the fuck did Andrew Huberman

00:41:37.690 --> 00:41:42.789
say? You know, I remember I heard Huberman had

00:41:42.789 --> 00:41:44.230
this thing about cortisol. He's like, you need

00:41:44.230 --> 00:41:45.989
to spike your cortisol early in the morning,

00:41:46.070 --> 00:41:47.570
which I, you know, if I get up and exercise in

00:41:47.570 --> 00:41:49.510
the morning, like, yeah, that seems true because

00:41:49.510 --> 00:41:52.000
I feel good. But then I was like, I can't have

00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:53.480
caffeine anymore. I had to get off completely.

00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:56.539
Really? Dude, I can't have it. I'm, like, super

00:41:56.539 --> 00:41:58.880
sensitive to it. If I had a cup of coffee, what

00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:00.639
time is it right now? If I had a cup of coffee

00:42:00.639 --> 00:42:03.159
now at 2 o 'clock, I would not sleep until midnight.

00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:06.599
Is that because you don't drink much of it? I

00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:08.880
don't metabolize it. Oh, interesting. My dad

00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:10.699
can drink coffee and fall asleep, but if my mom

00:42:10.699 --> 00:42:13.739
has coffee, it just, like... You have it, and

00:42:13.739 --> 00:42:16.420
I can feel it just in my body for hours. It's

00:42:16.420 --> 00:42:19.420
just like a nonstop. I love caffeine, the mental

00:42:19.420 --> 00:42:22.340
effects. My body just can't stand it. Have you

00:42:22.340 --> 00:42:26.280
ever tried nootropics, like theanine? I've done

00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:29.179
it all. Acetylcholine? Not acetylcholine, but

00:42:29.179 --> 00:42:30.599
I've taken L -theanine with it, which helped

00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:32.659
a little bit, but then I'll just drink more coffee.

00:42:32.739 --> 00:42:35.380
No, I don't mean with coffee. I mean by itself

00:42:35.380 --> 00:42:37.940
as like a little bit of a pick -me -up. Oh, yeah.

00:42:38.059 --> 00:42:41.000
No, I like, yeah, I take L -theanine before I

00:42:41.000 --> 00:42:42.480
go to sleep. I think it kind of helps me sleep.

00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:44.019
Yeah, I hear that, too, which is interesting

00:42:44.019 --> 00:42:45.619
because it helps with your memory. Like, how

00:42:45.619 --> 00:42:47.199
does it help with your memory and also help you

00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:49.519
go to sleep? I don't know. Here it says, vitamin

00:42:49.519 --> 00:42:52.239
D is a fat -soluble nutrient, so pairing it with

00:42:52.239 --> 00:42:55.079
dietary fat maximizes its absorption in the gut.

00:42:55.579 --> 00:42:57.639
Take vitamin D supplements with a meal containing

00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:00.579
fats for optimal uptake. Studies show you can

00:43:00.579 --> 00:43:04.050
boost serum levels by about 50%. Foods like fatty

00:43:04.050 --> 00:43:06.889
fish, avocados, olive oil, nut seeds, or full

00:43:06.889 --> 00:43:09.889
-fat yogurt provide these fats effectively. Supportive

00:43:09.889 --> 00:43:12.849
nutrients, magnesium, aids in converting vitamin

00:43:12.849 --> 00:43:14.989
D to its active form and transporting it in the

00:43:14.989 --> 00:43:17.849
body. Vitamin K2 works synergistically to direct

00:43:17.849 --> 00:43:20.369
calcium to bones, enhancing benefits for bone

00:43:20.369 --> 00:43:23.510
health. Omega -3 fatty acids from fish oil also

00:43:23.510 --> 00:43:26.710
improve absorption alongside fats. All right,

00:43:26.730 --> 00:43:28.710
so that's it. So vitamin D you should take with

00:43:28.710 --> 00:43:31.230
magnesium and K2 and probably some fish oil.

00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:33.840
Nice. There you go. I was eating it after breakfast,

00:43:33.860 --> 00:43:36.519
so there we go. I was getting my fats. But yeah,

00:43:36.539 --> 00:43:39.099
the caffeine for me, everyone's different, but

00:43:39.099 --> 00:43:42.320
I can't have it. I could drink two double espressos

00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:44.480
and go to sleep. That's crazy. So here's my thing,

00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:46.820
too. I didn't start really drinking caffeine

00:43:46.820 --> 00:43:50.400
all the time until I had kids, but I don't have

00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:52.719
dreams at night. If I drink even coffee during

00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.880
the day, no dreams at night. Really? I don't

00:43:55.880 --> 00:43:58.000
know what it is, man. I'm super, super sensitive

00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:00.039
to it. Well, a lot of people that stop smoking

00:44:00.039 --> 00:44:03.519
weed say that they get wild, crazy dreams. That

00:44:03.519 --> 00:44:04.940
happens, too. That kind of blocks your dreams,

00:44:05.019 --> 00:44:07.599
too. Yeah. But even that, like, I don't know.

00:44:07.659 --> 00:44:09.780
I smoked weed forever. Like, I would still kind

00:44:09.780 --> 00:44:12.039
of have dreams, but the caffeine just, like,

00:44:12.059 --> 00:44:14.219
completely neutralizes them. And then they say

00:44:14.219 --> 00:44:16.619
that—it's, like, anecdotal, but they say that

00:44:16.619 --> 00:44:18.920
caffeine, there's anecdotal evidence that it

00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:22.159
kind of— uh what is it like discourages or you

00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:23.739
know whatever it does your brain you don't do

00:44:23.739 --> 00:44:25.840
as much divergent thinking it's more like convergent

00:44:25.840 --> 00:44:27.519
where like if you need to get like a task like

00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:29.500
all right i need to edit something caffeine's

00:44:29.500 --> 00:44:31.079
great if you're like i need to come up with a

00:44:31.079 --> 00:44:33.599
story idea there's like anecdotal evidence that

00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:35.699
says like people who are on caffeine report that

00:44:35.699 --> 00:44:37.980
it like messes up their ability to like just

00:44:37.980 --> 00:44:40.440
kind of like you know, come up with like new

00:44:40.440 --> 00:44:43.500
or novel ideas. That makes sense. Yeah. Because

00:44:43.500 --> 00:44:45.440
you're just hyper -focused on the one thing that

00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:48.000
you're doing. Yeah. Like a low -dose meth. Yeah,

00:44:48.019 --> 00:44:51.460
pretty much. You're like, my friends that have

00:44:51.460 --> 00:44:54.179
dated girls that have had problems with amphetamines,

00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:56.320
one of the things they say is they know when

00:44:56.320 --> 00:44:57.920
they're on it because then they start cleaning

00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:00.760
the house. They start cleaning everything. Yeah.

00:45:00.820 --> 00:45:03.059
They start getting like hyper -focused on like

00:45:03.059 --> 00:45:05.949
organizing and cleaning. That sounds like a good

00:45:05.949 --> 00:45:08.110
drug. Yeah. What's the backlash? It's probably

00:45:08.110 --> 00:45:10.090
a spaz, though. That's probably the backlash.

00:45:10.289 --> 00:45:12.309
Well, it's probably they're doing it for 12 hours

00:45:12.309 --> 00:45:14.949
while they're listening to Slayer. Yeah. Fuck,

00:45:14.969 --> 00:45:17.590
dude. Fuck. You're not even talking about Adderall.

00:45:17.630 --> 00:45:19.630
This is them doing crystal meth, you're saying?

00:45:19.750 --> 00:45:22.670
I don't know. He was saying amphetamines. I would

00:45:22.670 --> 00:45:25.929
assume it's like meth. Yeah. Amphetamine, babe,

00:45:26.050 --> 00:45:28.090
would be not ideal, I don't think. Well, I've

00:45:28.090 --> 00:45:29.949
talked to people that have done meth. They tell

00:45:29.949 --> 00:45:31.570
you you feel like you're fucking Superman, but

00:45:31.570 --> 00:45:34.320
you also want to get things done. Really? Yeah.

00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:36.860
I've heard that similar thing about crack where

00:45:36.860 --> 00:45:39.679
you feel like a genius. You smoke crack, apparently,

00:45:39.800 --> 00:45:42.380
you're just like, dude, like, why would I have

00:45:42.380 --> 00:45:44.260
a refrigerator? I can sell it right now, and

00:45:44.260 --> 00:45:45.780
I can just order out to, and, like, apparently

00:45:45.780 --> 00:45:47.960
you're just, like, the smartest person in your

00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:49.500
head in the world. Right. And then you just,

00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:51.400
like, it all crashes every 30 minutes. Well,

00:45:51.400 --> 00:45:54.340
it's like free -base cocaine is all it is. Yeah.

00:45:54.380 --> 00:45:56.440
Like, what Richard Pryor was doing back in the

00:45:56.440 --> 00:45:59.139
day, that was just before crack. Yeah. It was

00:45:59.139 --> 00:46:01.539
free -basing cocaine. Yeah, and it's weird, too,

00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:03.889
because I think it just, like, Coke, I think,

00:46:03.889 --> 00:46:05.210
just floods your brain. A lot of things just

00:46:05.210 --> 00:46:07.150
flood your brain with dopamine. Yeah, but the

00:46:07.150 --> 00:46:09.690
delivery method, apparently, of crack is superior.

00:46:10.289 --> 00:46:12.250
Really? There's something about smoking it where

00:46:12.250 --> 00:46:14.530
it just goes right to your head. Well, I know

00:46:14.530 --> 00:46:16.429
this from Hunter Biden. Yeah. Because Hunter

00:46:16.429 --> 00:46:18.670
Biden was on that Channel 5 show when he was

00:46:18.670 --> 00:46:21.610
talking about it. It's fucking, he was so descriptive

00:46:21.610 --> 00:46:23.449
of it, it almost made you want to try crack.

00:46:24.269 --> 00:46:27.010
It was almost like it was like a romantic tale

00:46:27.010 --> 00:46:29.429
of like a bad romance that he had to get out

00:46:29.429 --> 00:46:32.570
of. This is a very gentlemanly way to say it's

00:46:32.570 --> 00:46:35.050
his superior delivery mechanism. Well, he's very

00:46:35.050 --> 00:46:37.150
smart, right? Yeah. So he's very articulate.

00:46:37.530 --> 00:46:40.369
He's talking about like what it was like to smoke

00:46:40.369 --> 00:46:43.769
crack. Yeah. It's like, holy shit, man. And I

00:46:43.769 --> 00:46:45.929
wonder, I guess I guess he's off of it because

00:46:45.929 --> 00:46:48.210
I guess like, you know. Yeah. If you started

00:46:48.210 --> 00:46:49.909
again, it's probably just another. Well, there

00:46:49.909 --> 00:46:51.550
was that baggie they found at the White House,

00:46:51.590 --> 00:46:55.099
but. First of all, it might have been his, but

00:46:55.099 --> 00:46:57.960
also, you think he's the only one of those people

00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:00.099
doing coke? Yeah, I was about to say, that could

00:47:00.099 --> 00:47:02.659
be anybody. Listen, there's probably a lot of

00:47:02.659 --> 00:47:04.559
those folks that need a little pick -me -up sometimes

00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:08.539
for a meeting, or they have to do a press thing,

00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:11.400
or you're working 16 hours a day, a little talk.

00:47:12.099 --> 00:47:14.659
Big time. Let's go. I used to work at a real

00:47:14.659 --> 00:47:16.980
estate company when I was in college. They would

00:47:16.980 --> 00:47:19.800
buy apartment buildings, and dude, all the senior

00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:21.659
management were like, they used to buy Adderall

00:47:21.659 --> 00:47:24.190
off me. They would just chomp fucking Adderall.

00:47:24.309 --> 00:47:26.690
Come in and just be like, they would do sales

00:47:26.690 --> 00:47:28.969
meetings and just be like. A friend of mine who's

00:47:28.969 --> 00:47:30.730
a journalist says that all these journalists

00:47:30.730 --> 00:47:32.570
are on Adderall. Yeah, I believe it. Says it

00:47:32.570 --> 00:47:34.829
makes you productive. Yeah. They're all doing

00:47:34.829 --> 00:47:37.210
it. Some of them are like super open about it.

00:47:37.230 --> 00:47:39.070
Like Dave Portnoy, when he was in here, he was

00:47:39.070 --> 00:47:41.050
telling us. Would he say he took 30 milligrams?

00:47:42.010 --> 00:47:44.349
I don't remember, but yeah. It was enough that

00:47:44.349 --> 00:47:46.309
I was like, yo, and then I had to go to Jamie.

00:47:46.389 --> 00:47:48.289
How much is that? And Jamie was like, a lot.

00:47:48.590 --> 00:47:51.300
30s, yeah, 30s. That would get you. But not a

00:47:51.300 --> 00:47:53.619
lot if you do it a lot, right? Yeah, you would

00:47:53.619 --> 00:47:55.280
get a, yeah. That's the thing. It's like if you're

00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:57.139
doing edibles with Joey Diaz. Like, how much

00:47:57.139 --> 00:47:59.179
should I take? Take two, cocksucker. Like, what?

00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:04.960
Take two. Like, how much do you take? Yeah, that

00:48:04.960 --> 00:48:06.340
would definitely. I mean, I feel like I can't

00:48:06.340 --> 00:48:08.320
get a tolerance to eat edibles. They just knock

00:48:08.320 --> 00:48:10.679
me out every time. Jamie can just eat them and

00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:11.940
they don't do anything to them. That's crazy.

00:48:12.340 --> 00:48:13.860
I know people like that too. They're like, no,

00:48:13.880 --> 00:48:16.039
I need like 200 milligrams to feel it. I'm like.

00:48:16.689 --> 00:48:18.929
I'm psychotic. At 200 milligrams, I'm fried.

00:48:19.110 --> 00:48:21.590
It's a lot. Yeah, 200 is a lot. I used to have

00:48:21.590 --> 00:48:23.550
these lollipops that were 200 milligrams, so

00:48:23.550 --> 00:48:25.269
I would try to gauge it, like I don't want to

00:48:25.269 --> 00:48:28.030
eat too much of it, and I would get fucking whacked

00:48:28.030 --> 00:48:32.070
all the time. So we went over how many people

00:48:32.070 --> 00:48:35.829
are on Adderall once, like the number of Adderall

00:48:35.829 --> 00:48:39.090
prescriptions in a year. It was something bonkers.

00:48:39.210 --> 00:48:42.210
It was like 39 million Adderall prescriptions

00:48:42.210 --> 00:48:44.309
in this country, but then you have to go, like,

00:48:44.309 --> 00:48:46.699
how many people is that? Right? Because, like,

00:48:46.739 --> 00:48:48.579
you refill your prescription. So how often do

00:48:48.579 --> 00:48:51.739
you refill it? How many times a year? You know

00:48:51.739 --> 00:48:53.440
what I mean? I think it's more than 39. If that's

00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:55.420
the case, I feel like there's 39 million subscribers

00:48:55.420 --> 00:48:58.320
to Adderall. Well, there's definitely people

00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:01.019
that are getting it other ways. For sure. For

00:49:01.019 --> 00:49:03.179
sure. Yeah, you get your script and you sell

00:49:03.179 --> 00:49:06.679
it, but it's like – Not just that. You're getting

00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:10.099
it illegally. You're getting illegal good and

00:49:10.099 --> 00:49:13.239
bad. You're getting cartel stuff. Like pressed

00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:15.940
and stuff? Yeah, like they can make a Valium

00:49:15.940 --> 00:49:17.980
that looks just like a Valium and there's fucking

00:49:17.980 --> 00:49:20.719
fentanyl in it. Yeah, true. No, that's – like

00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:23.099
the pill world is – they're like completely riddled

00:49:23.099 --> 00:49:25.159
with that right now. Oh, it's scary, man, because

00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:28.460
kids are taking these – like there was a kid

00:49:28.460 --> 00:49:30.599
from a local high school around here that I read

00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:32.989
a story. He took an Adderall. He thought it was

00:49:32.989 --> 00:49:34.889
an Adderall, and it had fentanyl in it. He died.

00:49:35.130 --> 00:49:36.889
He got it from one of his friends. He was just

00:49:36.889 --> 00:49:40.329
trying to cram for studies. Yeah, that's why

00:49:40.329 --> 00:49:41.789
I always tell people, anyone I know who does

00:49:41.789 --> 00:49:43.670
coke, I'm always like, you got to stop, man.

00:49:43.829 --> 00:49:45.750
They're like, no, we'll test it. It's like, no,

00:49:45.789 --> 00:49:47.710
you're not. You're going to be at a bar. You're

00:49:47.710 --> 00:49:49.150
going to be hammered. You're going to buy coke

00:49:49.150 --> 00:49:51.809
and shove it up your nose. You're not going to

00:49:51.809 --> 00:49:53.809
stop and be like, let me see. I've never done

00:49:53.809 --> 00:49:55.889
it, but all my friends who have done it have

00:49:55.889 --> 00:49:59.349
also the same thing. Don't do it. I've never

00:49:59.349 --> 00:50:01.590
done it either. I've never had any interest.

00:50:01.730 --> 00:50:03.929
But it's like every time I'm around people on

00:50:03.929 --> 00:50:06.550
it, I'm just like, dude, this sucks. Maybe they're

00:50:06.550 --> 00:50:09.650
having fun. They want to sell you Bitcoin. They

00:50:09.650 --> 00:50:11.449
want to go into business now. Everybody does.

00:50:12.010 --> 00:50:14.869
They get like super hyped about a project. They

00:50:14.869 --> 00:50:16.409
want to bring you in. Well, that's what I think.

00:50:16.469 --> 00:50:18.409
I guess that's the way it's explained to me.

00:50:18.449 --> 00:50:20.170
You just feel like you've accomplished something

00:50:20.170 --> 00:50:22.250
major. So you just like snore coke and you're

00:50:22.250 --> 00:50:26.730
like, I am the best ever. I don't know. I just.

00:50:27.779 --> 00:50:30.059
Yeah, Joey Diaz used to say that you can't go

00:50:30.059 --> 00:50:32.599
on stage with that. Yeah, I can see that. It's

00:50:32.599 --> 00:50:34.440
the worst because you have no feeling. You don't

00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:36.659
feel for the crowd. Yeah, that's how I feel.

00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:39.320
I can't drink and go on stage because I'm way

00:50:39.320 --> 00:50:41.380
too confident. If something doesn't land, I'm

00:50:41.380 --> 00:50:44.460
like, fucking whatever, pussy. I don't care and

00:50:44.460 --> 00:50:50.099
I just do so bad. Yeah. Yeah, it's a weird fine

00:50:50.099 --> 00:50:52.860
dance that people do with substances and performing,

00:50:53.099 --> 00:50:56.300
especially if you're doing like a speed. or something

00:50:56.300 --> 00:50:58.760
because you can get it wrong. I would imagine.

00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:01.019
Yeah, you can get your balance wrong. I've heard

00:51:01.019 --> 00:51:03.920
Adderall does not mix with comedy at all. That's

00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:04.980
what I've heard, too. I've heard of people like

00:51:04.980 --> 00:51:07.280
it. It's like a weird part of your brain where

00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:09.219
you're just too lasered in. I've heard people

00:51:09.219 --> 00:51:11.400
like to use it for writing, though, which I think

00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:13.860
is weird. I guess. Yeah, I don't know. I know

00:51:13.860 --> 00:51:16.119
they use it for writing books. I don't know if

00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:18.760
it would be the same for writing comedy because,

00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:20.440
you know, you're talking about coming up with

00:51:20.440 --> 00:51:23.179
ideas. You'd imagine that would be the coffee

00:51:23.179 --> 00:51:27.929
thing on steroids. Yeah. For me, I like to write.

00:51:28.030 --> 00:51:30.510
I write books. I like to do other stuff. Writing

00:51:30.510 --> 00:51:32.530
stand -up is more like it has to just pop into

00:51:32.530 --> 00:51:34.329
my head. Then I go like, oh, that would be funny.

00:51:34.449 --> 00:51:36.909
If I start fleshing it out, new ideas come. But

00:51:36.909 --> 00:51:41.889
I've tried to write stand -up, and very rarely

00:51:41.889 --> 00:51:43.869
do I get anything that works when I do that.

00:51:44.050 --> 00:51:48.070
Yeah, me too. What I do is I write essays. I

00:51:48.070 --> 00:51:50.610
just like essays on a subject. And then from

00:51:50.610 --> 00:51:52.849
that, I'll extract little things. That's a good

00:51:52.849 --> 00:51:54.349
idea. And then I take that little thing and I

00:51:54.349 --> 00:51:56.599
say, how do I introduce this thing? And what

00:51:56.599 --> 00:51:58.460
would be funny about this thing, and how would

00:51:58.460 --> 00:52:00.619
I lead into this, and what are the other surrounding

00:52:00.619 --> 00:52:03.840
things that would go with this? No, that's a

00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:06.320
good way to do it. I have to trick myself into

00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:08.400
being like I'm memorizing my material, so I just

00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:10.079
bullet point it, and then I get bored and my

00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:11.639
mind wanders. I'm like, that would actually be

00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:13.780
pretty funny. Right, and then you start rambling.

00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:15.860
Yeah, that's the thing about the essay, that

00:52:15.860 --> 00:52:18.559
if you just sit down and write about a subject,

00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:21.980
whatever that subject is, that you just start

00:52:21.980 --> 00:52:24.880
thinking about all the different aspects of that

00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:27.599
subject. of thinking how to write in comedy form

00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:30.099
yeah you know that that's a that's a smart idea

00:52:30.099 --> 00:52:31.880
because yeah if i try to write it then like you

00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:33.920
try to repeat it but you wrote it down so it

00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:36.780
sounds like a written thing and it's like But

00:52:36.780 --> 00:52:39.320
even that in the essay way, it's a brutal process

00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:41.900
because then you have to take that one sentence

00:52:41.900 --> 00:52:45.280
or that one paragraph in a thousand words and

00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:47.780
then figure out a way to introduce that where

00:52:47.780 --> 00:52:50.880
it's not clunky. Yeah. And then figure out what's

00:52:50.880 --> 00:52:52.940
the funniest part about it. And it's like you

00:52:52.940 --> 00:52:55.380
have to always know that the first time you bring

00:52:55.380 --> 00:52:57.920
it out there, it's going to suck. And you have

00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:02.039
to just slowly but surely trust it to get better

00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:04.960
and just throw it into the fire every night.

00:53:05.099 --> 00:53:07.590
Yeah. You have your bits that you know are going

00:53:07.590 --> 00:53:09.789
to kill, and you're like, I don't want to trot

00:53:09.789 --> 00:53:12.289
that one out here. I know. That kind of is the

00:53:12.289 --> 00:53:14.190
funnest part, though, to me. When I moved here,

00:53:14.710 --> 00:53:18.949
I think I had just put out an hour or recorded,

00:53:19.309 --> 00:53:22.789
so I had to start with new material, which sucks.

00:53:22.829 --> 00:53:25.110
You move somewhere, you have new stuff, and you're

00:53:25.110 --> 00:53:27.159
like, dude, I have only new shit. It's a bad

00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:29.460
feeling, but it's exciting because you don't

00:53:29.460 --> 00:53:31.039
know how it's going to go every night. I don't

00:53:31.039 --> 00:53:34.039
know. I like that. I think it's good. I think

00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:36.840
it's like we were talking the other day about

00:53:36.840 --> 00:53:39.780
loss, about failure. I was talking with Michael

00:53:39.780 --> 00:53:41.760
Malice about bombing on stage. I think bombing

00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:44.159
is good because what happens if you bomb, that

00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:46.639
feeling, you feel terrible the next day, you

00:53:46.639 --> 00:53:49.059
feel terrible that night, and then you're like,

00:53:49.139 --> 00:53:52.280
I got to fucking get back on stage and really

00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:55.400
tighten up my shit. And I always have in the

00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:59.309
past. made big leaps after I bombed. I'm like,

00:53:59.369 --> 00:54:02.230
I think it's important. Like failure is important.

00:54:02.409 --> 00:54:04.530
It sucks. You don't like it, but you got to go

00:54:04.530 --> 00:54:07.730
through that. Like maybe you got overconfident

00:54:07.730 --> 00:54:10.750
or maybe you were in a bad mood or maybe it was

00:54:10.750 --> 00:54:13.869
like, whatever. Yeah. No, it helps. That's what

00:54:13.869 --> 00:54:16.329
like motivates me to write standup. If I bomb,

00:54:16.409 --> 00:54:18.230
I'm like, all right, now let me, let me like

00:54:18.230 --> 00:54:20.630
dial it in. Cause I have like, I'm always doing

00:54:20.630 --> 00:54:22.150
a bunch of stuff and like, I'm like, Oh, I got

00:54:22.150 --> 00:54:23.789
a show. And I like, you know, organize kind of

00:54:23.789 --> 00:54:27.210
against the gun. But, yeah, a bomb really is

00:54:27.210 --> 00:54:29.110
like a clarifying. It's good for you, honestly.

00:54:29.449 --> 00:54:31.349
Yes, it is. It's good to have a bomb. Well, I

00:54:31.349 --> 00:54:33.269
used to say that to fighters, too. You lose a

00:54:33.269 --> 00:54:34.730
fight, it's good, as long as you don't get really

00:54:34.730 --> 00:54:37.289
hurt. It's good because you like that feeling.

00:54:37.429 --> 00:54:40.030
Go home with that feeling and think about all

00:54:40.030 --> 00:54:42.869
the stones that you left unturned, all the times

00:54:42.869 --> 00:54:45.650
we skipped road work, all the times we skipped

00:54:45.650 --> 00:54:47.389
strength and conditioning, all the times you're

00:54:47.389 --> 00:54:49.829
half -assing it in the gym. That guy didn't do

00:54:49.829 --> 00:54:53.519
that. He just beat you. Now you know. You have

00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:56.179
to understand that there's levels to dedication,

00:54:57.679 --> 00:55:01.940
there's levels to competency, and a good loss

00:55:01.940 --> 00:55:05.119
is good for you. Yeah. Again, if you have your

00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:06.659
tried and true and you're just going on stage,

00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:09.400
it's working night after night. You just go home

00:55:09.400 --> 00:55:10.539
and you're like, oh, whatever. But, yeah, when

00:55:10.539 --> 00:55:12.380
you bomb, like, for me, it does something in

00:55:12.380 --> 00:55:14.940
my brain where my thoughts start flying. You

00:55:14.940 --> 00:55:17.159
know, whatever that is just helps me get stuff

00:55:17.159 --> 00:55:18.719
out there. Well, when I lived in Boston, one

00:55:18.719 --> 00:55:20.579
of the things that was a real problem was there

00:55:20.579 --> 00:55:23.659
were these local headliners that had these fucking

00:55:23.659 --> 00:55:29.539
acts, man. They had 45 minutes of, like, hammered

00:55:29.539 --> 00:55:32.960
samurai sword. It was so good because they had

00:55:32.960 --> 00:55:35.579
been doing that 45 minutes for a decade and a

00:55:35.579 --> 00:55:38.449
half. That's crazy, dude. It was so good. timing

00:55:38.449 --> 00:55:41.829
was so good the the pacing was so good they would

00:55:41.829 --> 00:55:46.070
crush every night but after a while they never

00:55:46.070 --> 00:55:48.590
added anything new to it And these guys just

00:55:48.590 --> 00:55:52.070
like a buddy of mine went to see a Boston headliner

00:55:52.070 --> 00:55:54.909
that we knew from like Fitzsimmons. Went to see

00:55:54.909 --> 00:55:57.170
a Boston headliner that we knew from the 80s.

00:55:57.170 --> 00:55:59.550
And he goes, dude, he was doing the same material.

00:55:59.769 --> 00:56:02.010
He goes, it was so sad. He goes, he was just

00:56:02.010 --> 00:56:05.329
phoning it in. It was barely getting a response

00:56:05.329 --> 00:56:07.550
from the audience. It was like dated references.

00:56:08.489 --> 00:56:10.969
Because this guy just had an act. And like a

00:56:10.969 --> 00:56:12.969
fucking guy who shows up at the office, he would.

00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:17.539
open up a suitcase, pull his act out. That was

00:56:17.539 --> 00:56:19.619
his act. Those guys are always fascinating. Cause

00:56:19.619 --> 00:56:20.980
when you're like, you know, I started in Philly

00:56:20.980 --> 00:56:23.260
and like, so like the only, the first like paid

00:56:23.260 --> 00:56:26.199
gigs you get as an open mic or like you do like

00:56:26.199 --> 00:56:28.800
moose lodges and shit for like 50 bucks. And

00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:31.320
it's always one of those like wacko headliners.

00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:33.199
Who's been around for 30 years. He's doing it

00:56:33.199 --> 00:56:35.079
forever. He's giving you the career talk in between

00:56:35.079 --> 00:56:36.539
the show. There's like, I would get like comedy

00:56:36.539 --> 00:56:39.159
magicians all the time. Oh yeah. And dude, it

00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:40.980
was like, yeah, those, those guys would always

00:56:40.980 --> 00:56:42.719
kind of freak me out. Like I would open for guys.

00:56:42.829 --> 00:56:45.570
that would talk about floppy disks in the 2000s,

00:56:45.570 --> 00:56:48.170
and I'm like, bro, what are you doing, man? We

00:56:48.170 --> 00:56:52.269
don't have CDs anymore. A floppy disk? This guy

00:56:52.269 --> 00:56:54.750
talked about porn on a floppy disk. On stage?

00:56:54.869 --> 00:56:57.269
Dude, it was fucking Screech. R .I .P. It was

00:56:57.269 --> 00:56:59.570
Screech. Screech. R .I .P. I opened for Screech

00:56:59.570 --> 00:57:02.190
back in the day, and I was like, fuck yes, this

00:57:02.190 --> 00:57:04.190
is going to be awesome. He was killing it in

00:57:04.190 --> 00:57:06.329
the comedy clubs. He was like one of the first

00:57:06.329 --> 00:57:09.309
people to go from being on a sitcom to touring

00:57:09.309 --> 00:57:12.309
on the road. Yeah, I call it late Screech, though.

00:57:12.349 --> 00:57:15.090
Skippy. Remember Skippy from Family Matters?

00:57:15.110 --> 00:57:17.530
Was it Family Matters? No. What was it from?

00:57:17.690 --> 00:57:21.920
What was the show? He was another guy who was,

00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:25.420
he was on a sitcom. Was he on, not Step by Step.

00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:28.119
I don't remember. But if I remember, he was,

00:57:28.139 --> 00:57:31.579
same thing. He was, like, Hollywood didn't work

00:57:31.579 --> 00:57:35.139
out for him. Family Ties. Family Ties. With Michael

00:57:35.139 --> 00:57:39.039
J. Fox? Yeah. Yeah, so that guy was headlining

00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:41.239
comedy clubs. Yeah. All over the place. This

00:57:41.239 --> 00:57:44.039
was like a bar in Delaware. This was not a glamorous

00:57:44.039 --> 00:57:47.559
gig. Whoa. It was bad. What year? This was, I

00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:51.280
was, I graduated. College in 2009 would have

00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:55.420
been like 2012 maybe So this was like late. This

00:57:55.420 --> 00:57:57.579
was like late screech and a whole time He's on

00:57:57.579 --> 00:58:00.019
stage people go screech and he would just it's

00:58:00.019 --> 00:58:03.699
fucking made him so bad But I remember it was

00:58:03.699 --> 00:58:05.739
a funny show cuz I was supposed to be a lady

00:58:05.739 --> 00:58:08.260
it was supposed to host I was gonna feature it's

00:58:08.260 --> 00:58:10.820
gonna be screech as a headliner and The guy who

00:58:10.820 --> 00:58:12.840
owned the venue just bet like one of the fuck

00:58:12.840 --> 00:58:15.440
this lady's so bad that he was like hey I'm letting

00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:18.070
that lady feature you're gonna host and he was

00:58:18.070 --> 00:58:19.809
like i'll pay you the same price i was like yeah

00:58:19.809 --> 00:58:21.989
whatever i don't give a shit so he paid me and

00:58:21.989 --> 00:58:23.130
i had been you know i've been doing stand -up

00:58:23.130 --> 00:58:24.670
for a couple years so i was like kind of sharp

00:58:24.670 --> 00:58:27.349
you know especially for like that bar show and

00:58:27.349 --> 00:58:30.070
this lady i he she had never done stand -up before

00:58:30.070 --> 00:58:34.789
this was her first time this guy fucked her over

00:58:34.789 --> 00:58:35.969
he thought he was doing something nice for her

00:58:35.969 --> 00:58:38.989
she sat there for all the 20 minutes and read

00:58:38.989 --> 00:58:42.119
out of a giant notebook And just fucking, like,

00:58:42.219 --> 00:58:45.159
completely horrific. Like, a first -time stand

00:58:45.159 --> 00:58:47.500
-up doing 20 minutes. Completely bombed. And

00:58:47.500 --> 00:58:48.980
Screech was in the back with me, and he's like,

00:58:49.179 --> 00:58:52.159
the fuck is this? I remember he was, like, bragging,

00:58:52.159 --> 00:58:53.639
being like, dude, they gave me eight grand. I

00:58:53.639 --> 00:58:55.659
don't give a fuck about this show. I knew a few

00:58:55.659 --> 00:58:57.599
guys who their girlfriends started doing comedy,

00:58:57.719 --> 00:58:59.219
and then their girlfriends started opening for

00:58:59.219 --> 00:59:03.480
them. And it was just... Wild. For her sake,

00:59:03.480 --> 00:59:05.940
you can't do that. No. That's such a bad idea.

00:59:05.980 --> 00:59:07.500
It's so crazy. And these guys are like competent

00:59:07.500 --> 00:59:09.420
headliners. So the people were coming to see

00:59:09.420 --> 00:59:11.119
them. They're excited. Hey, we're going to go

00:59:11.119 --> 00:59:14.000
laugh. Have a good time. Nope. No. You're going

00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:16.079
to get tortured for 20 minutes before you get

00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:18.559
to laugh. Also, that's not going to help him

00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:21.500
either. She's going to be furious. I don't know

00:59:21.500 --> 00:59:23.300
why people do that. You can't. Well, they want

00:59:23.300 --> 00:59:25.920
to do it. Like, help me. Help me. That's one

00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:27.739
thing that happens a lot with comedy couples.

00:59:28.019 --> 00:59:29.380
Like, one of the couples will help the other

00:59:29.380 --> 00:59:32.119
one write. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, okay, writing's

00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:34.619
one thing, but like... But that's why they want

00:59:34.619 --> 00:59:36.159
to do it. It's like they want to hook up with

00:59:36.159 --> 00:59:38.119
a headliner, whether it's a guy or a girl. You

00:59:38.119 --> 00:59:40.679
hook up with a headliner, he or she helps you

00:59:40.679 --> 00:59:43.400
with your act, and then you go back and, you

00:59:43.400 --> 00:59:46.019
know... It's also impossible, though, because

00:59:46.019 --> 00:59:48.239
if you're dating a comic and then you book your

00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:50.260
own opener, you can't be like, ah, next time,

00:59:50.300 --> 00:59:52.340
I got you next time. You have to flat out be

00:59:52.340 --> 00:59:54.800
like, no, I'm not, you're not doing this. Right,

00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:58.050
and then you break up. Yeah. Yeah. But if you

00:59:58.050 --> 00:59:59.550
really care about their comedy, you'd be like,

00:59:59.570 --> 01:00:01.710
bro, you got to go to the open mics and, you

01:00:01.710 --> 01:00:04.849
know. Yeah. Doing it in front of a sold out show

01:00:04.849 --> 01:00:06.730
when you're just starting out is a crazy idea.

01:00:07.010 --> 01:00:09.190
I couldn't imagine. I literally couldn't imagine.

01:00:09.429 --> 01:00:11.349
It would have messed me up. Well, that's why

01:00:11.349 --> 01:00:13.630
I killed Tony so nuts. Yeah. Like, there are

01:00:13.630 --> 01:00:17.710
people who have gone on for their first time

01:00:17.710 --> 01:00:21.909
ever in Madison Square Garden to a sold out arena

01:00:21.909 --> 01:00:26.039
of 16 ,000 people. And then it's filmed for what,

01:00:26.119 --> 01:00:29.760
like a couple million people? Millions of people.

01:00:29.840 --> 01:00:31.699
You're out there eating dick. That must feel

01:00:31.699 --> 01:00:34.019
crazy waking up the next morning. Yeah, just

01:00:34.019 --> 01:00:37.460
like if you go to sleep. Let's imagine that you

01:00:37.460 --> 01:00:39.699
can go to sleep. If I flub a word, I don't go

01:00:39.699 --> 01:00:43.760
to sleep. They can go to sleep after that? Yeah,

01:00:43.780 --> 01:00:45.599
you're essentially filming a one -minute special

01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:50.559
the first time you do it. On Netflix. God damn.

01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:54.079
Or on YouTube. Both of them are getting fucking

01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:59.820
millions of views. I know. Dude, I'd be so scared

01:00:59.820 --> 01:01:01.599
to do that. People who can do that, I'm like,

01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:07.179
that's amazing. Go out there and do crazy. That's

01:01:07.179 --> 01:01:09.579
actually true. Some of the people, when you're

01:01:09.579 --> 01:01:13.199
interviewing them after they do the set, I go,

01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:15.559
has this guy been screened? Do we need to make

01:01:15.559 --> 01:01:17.039
sure he doesn't have a fucking knife on him?

01:01:17.079 --> 01:01:19.380
They do need that airport fucking thing. Oh,

01:01:19.460 --> 01:01:21.840
100%. Some of these people are out of their fucking

01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:23.900
mind. I always wanted to hang in the bar, like

01:01:23.900 --> 01:01:25.840
the holding tank where everyone is, because that's

01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:28.699
got to be the craziest vibe in there. Well, you

01:01:28.699 --> 01:01:31.239
remember open mic nights. Yeah, true. Open mic

01:01:31.239 --> 01:01:33.699
night at the comedy store in particular was always

01:01:33.699 --> 01:01:37.880
so nuts. Yeah. It was just a complete lunatic

01:01:37.880 --> 01:01:40.800
asylum. It really is, dude. There's this one

01:01:40.800 --> 01:01:43.460
guy, Robert William Apervaia, and he would come

01:01:43.460 --> 01:01:45.219
there every week. He was a really nice guy. And

01:01:45.219 --> 01:01:48.719
all of his act was about marijuana. And he, at

01:01:48.719 --> 01:01:52.659
one point in time, was a lawyer and then, I guess,

01:01:52.699 --> 01:01:56.260
blew a fuse. and then just was doing comedy,

01:01:56.340 --> 01:01:58.619
but he would walk from downtown. He lived in

01:01:58.619 --> 01:02:01.099
a flop house in downtown, and it would take him

01:02:01.099 --> 01:02:03.940
hours. He would walk from downtown to the comedy

01:02:03.940 --> 01:02:06.559
store, and when it rained out, the way he would

01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:09.679
deal with the rain is he would take plastic grocery

01:02:09.679 --> 01:02:14.050
bags and... tuck them inside of all of his clothing.

01:02:14.289 --> 01:02:16.869
So he'd wrap them around his body. So he had

01:02:16.869 --> 01:02:19.329
his clothing on the outside and these plastic

01:02:19.329 --> 01:02:24.449
bags all over his body. That's so fucking funny.

01:02:24.510 --> 01:02:26.650
The clothes were on the outside? Yeah. So he

01:02:26.650 --> 01:02:28.469
let his clothes get wet, but his body would be

01:02:28.469 --> 01:02:29.730
dry. Well, he couldn't figure out how to put

01:02:29.730 --> 01:02:32.050
it all outside of him. Okay. So his solution

01:02:32.050 --> 01:02:35.309
was just cover his skin and keep him from getting

01:02:35.309 --> 01:02:37.489
wet and cold, which I guess would work. It'd

01:02:37.489 --> 01:02:39.070
probably keep you sweaty too. Yeah, you'd sweat.

01:02:39.170 --> 01:02:42.300
Yeah. Yeah. So he was like a staple and he would

01:02:42.300 --> 01:02:45.099
go there every night late at night and he would

01:02:45.099 --> 01:02:47.079
be like one of the last guys up at open mic night

01:02:47.079 --> 01:02:50.340
every week whoa yeah and just was insane like

01:02:50.340 --> 01:02:52.739
you couldn't you couldn't shake your hand couldn't

01:02:52.739 --> 01:02:54.639
touch him he was always nervous that everybody

01:02:54.639 --> 01:02:56.659
hated him and so he'd like be scared and i became

01:02:56.659 --> 01:02:59.260
friends with him so he's cool with me i'd talk

01:02:59.260 --> 01:03:01.099
to him but like one time i tried to give him

01:03:01.099 --> 01:03:03.179
knuckles i'm like i sorry i forgot he just wouldn't

01:03:03.179 --> 01:03:06.679
yeah he would like like mumble and look at the

01:03:06.679 --> 01:03:10.500
ground like sorry yeah he was legitimately Cooked.

01:03:10.500 --> 01:03:12.639
Yeah, he was wet. Whatever was going on. Ah,

01:03:12.659 --> 01:03:15.800
fuck. Yeah, but he was a lawyer. And he just

01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:19.119
blew a fuse. Jesus Christ. It happens. Yeah,

01:03:19.139 --> 01:03:22.539
it does. You forget, well, at least I did, because

01:03:22.539 --> 01:03:25.900
doing the open mics, it is like a complete freak

01:03:25.900 --> 01:03:28.719
factory. A freak factory. But you're steeped

01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:31.219
in that so much for years. And then I remember

01:03:31.219 --> 01:03:34.219
when I finally stopped going to open mics all

01:03:34.219 --> 01:03:36.269
the time. I was still in Philly, and I, like,

01:03:36.269 --> 01:03:37.750
just took a break from the open mics. I would

01:03:37.750 --> 01:03:39.750
go do shows, and I was like, let me go to the

01:03:39.750 --> 01:03:41.269
open mic. It had been, like, six months. And

01:03:41.269 --> 01:03:43.309
I was like, I'll go to one, try stuff out. I,

01:03:43.389 --> 01:03:45.429
like, got in, you know, I'm sitting behind the

01:03:45.429 --> 01:03:46.829
area. I was in, like, Philly Helium, just sitting

01:03:46.829 --> 01:03:49.090
there at the open mic. And I just got, like,

01:03:49.110 --> 01:03:50.269
right away, guys were like, dude, look at him.

01:03:50.329 --> 01:03:51.849
He fucking sucks. And it was just, like, all

01:03:51.849 --> 01:03:53.369
these people. I'm like, oh, this was, like, the

01:03:53.369 --> 01:03:55.969
worst environment you can possibly be in. Yeah.

01:03:56.010 --> 01:03:57.630
It was just, everyone was like, this guy's a

01:03:57.630 --> 01:03:59.110
fucking piece of shit. I hate this guy. And everyone

01:03:59.110 --> 01:04:01.750
was so fucking angry. And just everyone was so

01:04:01.750 --> 01:04:06.579
charged on adrenaline all the time. on the outside

01:04:06.579 --> 01:04:08.739
of this thing that they want to do, this dream,

01:04:09.000 --> 01:04:12.539
and they get to try it. Like a regular person

01:04:12.539 --> 01:04:16.519
with no training, no schooling, no nothing, you

01:04:16.519 --> 01:04:18.960
get to stand on that stage with a microphone.

01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:21.019
I went down a rabbit hole the other night, and

01:04:21.019 --> 01:04:23.179
I was watching open mic nights from Long Island.

01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:29.519
Oh, fuck, dude. It was so crazy. That would be

01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:32.639
fun, though. It's so crazy watching someone that

01:04:32.639 --> 01:04:34.599
definitely shouldn't be doing comedy that's trying

01:04:34.599 --> 01:04:37.840
comedy for the first time. Yeah. And I was, you

01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:39.639
know, it was one of those dumb things. It was

01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:43.780
like midnight. Like, well, let me see. And they

01:04:43.780 --> 01:04:46.400
have films. It's all kinds of stuff. Basically,

01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:50.239
you find anything online. And I started watching.

01:04:50.480 --> 01:04:52.780
I can only watch for so long that I get anxiety.

01:04:53.059 --> 01:04:55.079
Yeah. I have to shut it off. That was like when

01:04:55.079 --> 01:04:56.659
you do open mics and you finally do a showcase

01:04:56.659 --> 01:04:58.559
and you invite your friends or your family to

01:04:58.559 --> 01:05:00.440
watch and they're just like, what the fuck are

01:05:00.440 --> 01:05:02.599
you doing? Who are these people? You're like,

01:05:02.679 --> 01:05:05.800
they're my friends. I brought some of my friends

01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:08.500
the first time I ever went on stage. I didn't

01:05:08.500 --> 01:05:10.059
want to do it by myself. That was the opposite.

01:05:10.059 --> 01:05:12.460
I didn't want anyone to see me for a long time.

01:05:13.609 --> 01:05:15.489
Yeah, and I did a show one time because I have

01:05:15.489 --> 01:05:16.989
a big family So I did a show and there's this

01:05:16.989 --> 01:05:18.989
place a Raven lounge in Philly It was like awesome

01:05:18.989 --> 01:05:21.889
like when we started tiny little black box thing

01:05:21.889 --> 01:05:25.010
in the top of a bar It fit maybe like 25 people

01:05:25.010 --> 01:05:27.309
and I have a big family. So I finally was like,

01:05:27.349 --> 01:05:29.389
all right, I'm gonna bite my family out Dude,

01:05:29.409 --> 01:05:31.550
I remember I was on stage and I knew like 17

01:05:31.550 --> 01:05:33.789
out of the 25 people. And I was like, dude, fucking

01:05:33.789 --> 01:05:36.489
kill me right now. This sucks. And they're staring

01:05:36.489 --> 01:05:38.230
at you like this? Yeah, there's just all my aunt

01:05:38.230 --> 01:05:39.650
in the front just like looking at me. And I was

01:05:39.650 --> 01:05:42.929
like, no. Watching you choke. Watching you bomb.

01:05:44.889 --> 01:05:47.989
For them. They were the audience. I'm like, fuck.

01:05:49.369 --> 01:05:52.690
It's what that's, you know, the only way. It's

01:05:52.690 --> 01:05:55.219
like. I know some people that have taken comedy

01:05:55.219 --> 01:05:58.280
classes, and then that has kind of got them into

01:05:58.280 --> 01:06:02.000
stand -up. Yeah, that's... It's a function of

01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:04.400
comedy classes, and that function is, like, it

01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:07.960
gets you to try it. I don't think anybody...

01:06:07.960 --> 01:06:09.880
Maybe there's a few people out there that are,

01:06:09.900 --> 01:06:12.280
like, legit comics that are teaching them, but

01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:15.340
for the most part, not. So we had a comedy class

01:06:15.340 --> 01:06:18.849
at Helium, and the thing was, if you... One,

01:06:18.869 --> 01:06:20.869
if you took the comedy class, it let you in the

01:06:20.869 --> 01:06:23.449
comedy classes contest. Then you can compete

01:06:23.449 --> 01:06:24.849
with the other people in the class. And if you

01:06:24.849 --> 01:06:26.650
won that, you got the hosting gig at Helium.

01:06:26.929 --> 01:06:29.809
And it was a sweet deal. But it was so hard to

01:06:29.809 --> 01:06:31.349
get in at Helium. So I had done stand -up for

01:06:31.349 --> 01:06:33.469
a while. I took time off. And when I got back

01:06:33.469 --> 01:06:34.869
into it, I was like, fuck it. I'm taking that

01:06:34.869 --> 01:06:36.429
comedy class. I'm going to try to fast -track

01:06:36.429 --> 01:06:39.210
myself into host. So I won the comedy class contest.

01:06:40.090 --> 01:06:41.889
And then I got into Philly's Funniest. When I

01:06:41.889 --> 01:06:43.869
won Philly's Funniest, I got, you know, they

01:06:43.869 --> 01:06:46.800
were like. The improv theater across the street

01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:49.179
was like, we'll let you host a comedy class and

01:06:49.179 --> 01:06:51.500
we'll give you like 35 bucks an hour. Dude, I

01:06:51.500 --> 01:06:53.159
had like no health care. I had nothing. I was

01:06:53.159 --> 01:06:55.960
like, absolutely, let's do it. So I had a comedy

01:06:55.960 --> 01:06:57.840
class and they showed up and I was like, all

01:06:57.840 --> 01:06:59.780
right, never take a comedy class ever again.

01:07:00.099 --> 01:07:02.260
I was like, don't ever do this ever again. This

01:07:02.260 --> 01:07:04.219
is so dumb. You guys did this, but we're just

01:07:04.219 --> 01:07:05.579
going to run this as an open mic. And I was like,

01:07:05.599 --> 01:07:07.079
get up there. And I had them all go up and just

01:07:07.079 --> 01:07:09.800
do like five. It was just an open mic. Well,

01:07:09.800 --> 01:07:11.760
that'll work. Yeah, that's what I try to tell

01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:13.920
them. That's what I try to tell them. But the

01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:16.780
one I was at was, like, real sketchy, man. It

01:07:16.780 --> 01:07:19.380
was very much like, I'm about to blow up. I'm

01:07:19.380 --> 01:07:21.760
taking you guys with me. This is how it's done.

01:07:22.219 --> 01:07:24.059
And you get out of it, and you go, this motherfucker,

01:07:24.340 --> 01:07:26.659
bro. I got deals and development, blah, blah,

01:07:26.679 --> 01:07:28.800
blah. It was fucking bullshit. There's so many

01:07:28.800 --> 01:07:30.920
of those guys. I got blacklisted from Helium

01:07:30.920 --> 01:07:32.639
because they found out I had a comedy class,

01:07:32.840 --> 01:07:35.019
which was even a fake comedy class. I just wanted

01:07:35.019 --> 01:07:38.119
the money for it. Did you try to tell them? Yeah,

01:07:38.139 --> 01:07:39.340
I told the owner. I was like, bro, what are you

01:07:39.340 --> 01:07:40.880
doing? He's like, love, man, just chill. And

01:07:40.880 --> 01:07:42.780
I was like, can I do the open mic still? He's

01:07:42.780 --> 01:07:44.199
like, you can do the open mic. And the guy found

01:07:44.199 --> 01:07:45.800
out I was on the open mic, and they booted me

01:07:45.800 --> 01:07:48.280
off that for like a month. Oh, my God. He was

01:07:48.280 --> 01:07:49.800
out for blood. And I called him like, what the

01:07:49.800 --> 01:07:51.059
fuck? Because I knew this guy. I'm like, what

01:07:51.059 --> 01:07:52.239
the fuck are you doing? He's like, well, I didn't

01:07:52.239 --> 01:07:54.780
call them. I'm like, okay, man. It was a big

01:07:54.780 --> 01:07:56.639
thing. Well, there was talk when they were the

01:07:56.639 --> 01:07:59.599
same people who own Cap City here now. There

01:07:59.599 --> 01:08:01.820
was talk that if you headlined there, you couldn't

01:08:01.820 --> 01:08:04.699
do my club for three months. It's crazy. And

01:08:04.699 --> 01:08:08.579
I was like, come on, guys. Why? I said to him,

01:08:08.659 --> 01:08:11.880
I'm like, if one of my friends is at your club,

01:08:12.039 --> 01:08:16.050
I'm like, I'll tweet about it. I don't want this

01:08:16.050 --> 01:08:18.109
to be competition. There's plenty of comedians

01:08:18.109 --> 01:08:20.210
and there's plenty of audience members for everybody.

01:08:20.329 --> 01:08:22.069
That's silly. Also, everyone's going to be fine.

01:08:22.210 --> 01:08:25.369
Yeah, that's insane. That's crazy. Yeah, I don't

01:08:25.369 --> 01:08:27.170
like that stuff. A young guy coming up, you're

01:08:27.170 --> 01:08:29.010
banning him from the club because he's hosting

01:08:29.010 --> 01:08:32.869
a comedy class for money? Yeah, it was nonsense.

01:08:33.289 --> 01:08:35.409
Now we're cool. That comedy class is probably

01:08:35.409 --> 01:08:37.810
going to lead more people to your club. It all

01:08:37.810 --> 01:08:40.609
feeds off of itself. I know, and it was literally

01:08:40.609 --> 01:08:42.689
like, well, maybe the word got out that I was

01:08:42.689 --> 01:08:44.590
like, I'd never take a comedy class ever again.

01:08:44.909 --> 01:08:46.890
Why? Did Philly have a class? Did Helium have

01:08:46.890 --> 01:08:48.649
a class? That was the class I took. I took a

01:08:48.649 --> 01:08:50.149
class at Helium. Oh, that's right. Because I

01:08:50.149 --> 01:08:52.409
wanted to fast track myself to the host. Otherwise,

01:08:52.510 --> 01:08:54.090
you had to do Philly's Funniest. He just said

01:08:54.090 --> 01:08:57.310
it. Yeah, so I was like, I completely gamed it.

01:08:57.369 --> 01:08:58.489
And I was like, fuck it. Because these were people

01:08:58.489 --> 01:08:59.850
who had never done it before. I'd done it for

01:08:59.850 --> 01:09:01.550
years. So I just went and did the class so I

01:09:01.550 --> 01:09:03.029
could do the contest. Do you ever go back and

01:09:03.029 --> 01:09:04.789
think about people that you knew in the early

01:09:04.789 --> 01:09:06.750
days and you're like, I thought they were going

01:09:06.750 --> 01:09:09.510
to make it? Yeah, there's a couple people that

01:09:09.510 --> 01:09:11.850
I was like, this guy is like a celebrity. He's

01:09:11.850 --> 01:09:14.210
got it. And it's just like, I don't know what

01:09:14.210 --> 01:09:15.550
happened. They're just kind of like, I guess,

01:09:15.649 --> 01:09:18.170
I don't know. It's weird. It is weird. There's

01:09:18.170 --> 01:09:19.890
a few people that I started out with. I'm like,

01:09:19.989 --> 01:09:22.510
damn, this dude's talented. There's something

01:09:22.510 --> 01:09:24.810
there. Oh, no. Yeah, I know. It's funny you said

01:09:24.810 --> 01:09:25.890
that. I'm like, I don't think so. Then I'm like,

01:09:25.930 --> 01:09:27.630
oh, yeah, there was definitely at least one,

01:09:27.670 --> 01:09:30.500
if not like. Two or three. Yeah. They would come.

01:09:30.579 --> 01:09:33.840
This guy was always on his own time. He would

01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:36.779
show up late, just walk on. I think there's some

01:09:36.779 --> 01:09:39.100
people you just can't keep into a thing at all,

01:09:39.140 --> 01:09:42.579
but their personalities are magnetic. Yeah. There's

01:09:42.579 --> 01:09:44.640
some people that, for whatever reason, they never

01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:47.439
figure out how to make a living at it. Yeah.

01:09:47.819 --> 01:09:50.869
And then they get bored with it. Or they get

01:09:50.869 --> 01:09:53.649
frustrated or something. Yeah, I couldn't imagine.

01:09:55.189 --> 01:09:57.649
I'd see people go who would like, and everyone

01:09:57.649 --> 01:09:59.170
bombs when you're starting out at open mics,

01:09:59.250 --> 01:10:02.069
but there are people that bomb every time for

01:10:02.069 --> 01:10:03.989
like years and they keep doing it. And you're

01:10:03.989 --> 01:10:06.470
like, bro, how are you? How are you alive? How

01:10:06.470 --> 01:10:08.890
are you doing this? I would have one bad set.

01:10:08.989 --> 01:10:10.449
I'm like, I'm going to kill myself, dude. I hate

01:10:10.449 --> 01:10:13.310
this. Some people just don't see it. And that's

01:10:13.310 --> 01:10:15.649
also, they don't address it. And that's also

01:10:15.649 --> 01:10:18.319
where they don't get any better. they don't have

01:10:18.319 --> 01:10:20.520
any self -awareness. Yeah, that could be it.

01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:23.380
And their perception of how people see them is

01:10:23.380 --> 01:10:26.279
distorted. Yeah. No, that's kind of scary, actually.

01:10:26.520 --> 01:10:28.939
Yeah, you want to put blinders up. It's pretty

01:10:28.939 --> 01:10:31.180
cut and dry, though, when people are silent in

01:10:31.180 --> 01:10:32.920
front of you. You're like, damn, I suck right

01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:37.100
now. I should change something. But in the beginning,

01:10:37.239 --> 01:10:39.619
it's just, it's such a weird, you're basically,

01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:43.159
like, running a marathon blindfolded. Yeah. Like,

01:10:43.159 --> 01:10:46.859
through trees. Dude, you have, like, finally,

01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:48.939
when I did, like, a special, I was like, oh,

01:10:49.060 --> 01:10:50.659
this is the point of it. You have to come up

01:10:50.659 --> 01:10:52.840
with an hour of stand -up. Yeah. Before, I was

01:10:52.840 --> 01:10:54.159
just like, I need to have a good five minutes

01:10:54.159 --> 01:10:55.840
for tonight. And I would just go up and do it

01:10:55.840 --> 01:10:57.479
and be like, great. And I would just go back

01:10:57.479 --> 01:10:59.659
home with, like, no plan or anything. Well, that's

01:10:59.659 --> 01:11:01.279
a lot of guys who live in cities where you do

01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:03.359
short sets all the time. Yeah. We were talking

01:11:03.359 --> 01:11:04.539
about that the other night in the green room.

01:11:04.619 --> 01:11:06.989
Like, some guys who do. a lot of New York City

01:11:06.989 --> 01:11:09.430
clubs, they have a really good 15 minutes. A

01:11:09.430 --> 01:11:11.550
fucking crush for 15 minutes. But when they have

01:11:11.550 --> 01:11:14.229
to do an hour, then things get weird because

01:11:14.229 --> 01:11:16.029
they can't keep the same energy for an hour.

01:11:16.270 --> 01:11:19.109
You have to pace it. It has to be hills and valleys.

01:11:19.409 --> 01:11:21.909
You have to kind of structure it. And then they

01:11:21.909 --> 01:11:24.250
also don't really have the material because they're

01:11:24.250 --> 01:11:27.029
basically just doing their best 15 minutes all

01:11:27.029 --> 01:11:31.949
the time. Yeah, true. I wasn't even really doing

01:11:31.949 --> 01:11:33.550
stand -up. Me and Shane were doing the podcast

01:11:33.550 --> 01:11:35.739
and I was like... I was going to do the podcast.

01:11:35.800 --> 01:11:37.319
I don't even want to do standup anymore. And

01:11:37.319 --> 01:11:39.960
then he, it was pretty funny behind my back,

01:11:39.979 --> 01:11:41.720
went to the manager at helium was like, dude,

01:11:41.779 --> 01:11:44.279
have Matt headline. And I was like, fucking dick.

01:11:44.359 --> 01:11:46.079
And the guy hit me up. So I started doing that.

01:11:46.399 --> 01:11:48.340
So I had been like not doing standup for how

01:11:48.340 --> 01:11:51.140
long? For like months and months and months,

01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:53.720
maybe a year off. And I had like, you know, I

01:11:53.720 --> 01:11:55.579
went, you know, it was like, I would go and try

01:11:55.579 --> 01:11:57.500
stuff. So then I started doing, when I first

01:11:57.500 --> 01:12:00.380
started headlining, I would do an hour, have

01:12:00.380 --> 01:12:02.819
off for like two months. Do an hour somewhere

01:12:02.819 --> 01:12:05.300
else. It was the most insane. It, like, really

01:12:05.300 --> 01:12:07.140
started fucking with me. Did you have recordings

01:12:07.140 --> 01:12:08.640
to listen to at least? Yeah, I would record the

01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:10.359
audio and I would listen to it and then I would,

01:12:10.380 --> 01:12:12.939
like, jot down notes and, like, it was the most

01:12:12.939 --> 01:12:15.119
insane way to get back into it. That was the

01:12:15.119 --> 01:12:17.800
thing that we experienced after COVID. There

01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:20.079
was a moment where I hadn't done stand -up in,

01:12:20.119 --> 01:12:22.920
like, four or five months. Yeah. It felt so weird.

01:12:23.020 --> 01:12:26.859
And then Houston had stand -up. They had clubs

01:12:26.859 --> 01:12:29.119
open. And they, like, spaced people out and put

01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:31.520
masks on them. Like, this is so ridiculous. Yeah.

01:12:31.880 --> 01:12:35.199
And we were doing shows inside. And I only did

01:12:35.199 --> 01:12:38.640
one weekend. And then I got super paranoid. I'm

01:12:38.640 --> 01:12:40.539
like, what if I give it to someone and they die?

01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:43.060
Yeah. I'm being so selfish that I want to do

01:12:43.060 --> 01:12:46.760
these shows. Yeah. So I got to stop. So I had

01:12:46.760 --> 01:12:50.439
this old lady on the podcast. And my first thought

01:12:50.439 --> 01:12:52.939
was, what if I have it and I give it to her?

01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:55.560
Damn, that would suck. I was so freaked out.

01:12:55.800 --> 01:12:58.550
Yeah. I didn't have, I wasn't even remotely sick.

01:12:58.750 --> 01:13:00.850
That was what was crazy. Like it was just a,

01:13:00.890 --> 01:13:03.810
it was a boogeyman. For sure. It wasn't like

01:13:03.810 --> 01:13:05.869
I'm coughing. Maybe I shouldn't come into work.

01:13:06.090 --> 01:13:08.390
No, it was like, I feel great, but what if I

01:13:08.390 --> 01:13:10.350
have it? I don't know. I know. Give it to this

01:13:10.350 --> 01:13:12.810
lady. Yeah. I did. I had my first kid, right?

01:13:13.050 --> 01:13:17.579
Like March. 2020 so it just we got out of the

01:13:17.579 --> 01:13:19.859
hospital and like a week later I was like holding

01:13:19.859 --> 01:13:21.699
my face in a grocery store to being like fuck

01:13:21.699 --> 01:13:23.479
what well at least you could be with her when

01:13:23.479 --> 01:13:25.699
she gave birth then yeah that was cool that was

01:13:25.699 --> 01:13:30.079
what was crazy yeah people were dying alone because

01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:31.859
you couldn't visit them while they were dying

01:13:31.859 --> 01:13:33.739
and it was insane dude it was it was like and

01:13:33.739 --> 01:13:36.420
luckily When we went in for our second kid, that

01:13:36.420 --> 01:13:38.819
was, like, it was still kind of in the mix. We

01:13:38.819 --> 01:13:40.920
were able to go in together, but, like, our nurse,

01:13:41.020 --> 01:13:42.560
you know, if we didn't have, like, our mask on,

01:13:42.619 --> 01:13:43.880
she was like, I don't know, whatever, I don't

01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:45.600
care. Because I heard people were getting, like,

01:13:45.699 --> 01:13:48.460
just, like, two weeks after we had our kid, people

01:13:48.460 --> 01:13:50.039
were in there, like, I got to stay home, my wife's

01:13:50.039 --> 01:13:51.159
in there by herself, blah, blah, blah. And it

01:13:51.159 --> 01:13:53.939
was like... It was a disaster. But even navigating

01:13:53.939 --> 01:13:55.640
that was crazy because it was like, you know,

01:13:55.640 --> 01:13:57.039
I'd tell my wife, like, well, I want to go do

01:13:57.039 --> 01:13:58.180
this. She's like, well, what if you bring it

01:13:58.180 --> 01:14:00.020
all to all of us? And I remember just at one

01:14:00.020 --> 01:14:01.420
point being like, then we're all going to fucking

01:14:01.420 --> 01:14:03.279
get it, dude. I don't know. Like, we, I, you

01:14:03.279 --> 01:14:05.199
know, I did the numbers. Like, I think this affects

01:14:05.199 --> 01:14:08.140
older people or, you know. What time was this?

01:14:08.779 --> 01:14:10.079
This would have been March. It was like March

01:14:10.079 --> 01:14:13.180
2020. And then, like, the next six months. Because

01:14:13.180 --> 01:14:14.560
I would, you know, I would like go try to do

01:14:14.560 --> 01:14:16.039
stuff. He's like, if you go outside, we're all

01:14:16.039 --> 01:14:18.039
going to get sick. I was worried about it. I

01:14:18.039 --> 01:14:20.960
wasn't really confident that people weren't going

01:14:20.960 --> 01:14:24.260
to get really fucked up by it until like a few

01:14:24.260 --> 01:14:26.779
of my friends got it and got over it. Yeah. And

01:14:26.779 --> 01:14:29.699
then my family got it and I didn't get it. And

01:14:29.699 --> 01:14:31.699
I thought that was crazy because I tried to get

01:14:31.699 --> 01:14:34.340
it. Like I didn't. Yeah. I didn't. I hugged my

01:14:34.340 --> 01:14:35.899
kids. They were laughing. You're going to get

01:14:35.899 --> 01:14:38.500
COVID. I was like, I'm not going to get it. And

01:14:38.500 --> 01:14:40.100
part of my head was like, boy, I hope I don't

01:14:40.100 --> 01:14:43.329
get it. Yeah. I never got it. I worked out and

01:14:43.329 --> 01:14:45.609
I didn't feel so good. And I said, let me just

01:14:45.609 --> 01:14:47.510
go through the paces today. And then I worked

01:14:47.510 --> 01:14:49.550
out the next day, same thing. I'm like, I don't

01:14:49.550 --> 01:14:52.229
feel so good. I feel like weak. So I just, let

01:14:52.229 --> 01:14:54.550
me do like my kettlebell routine with like 35

01:14:54.550 --> 01:14:57.329
pounds, just easy. Don't push it. Just a couple

01:14:57.329 --> 01:14:59.869
sets. And so I did that two days in a row. And

01:14:59.869 --> 01:15:01.649
then the third day I went to the gym. I'm like,

01:15:01.670 --> 01:15:03.810
how do I feel? And I'm like, I feel fucking good.

01:15:04.050 --> 01:15:06.470
Like I feel great. Like nothing feels wrong at

01:15:06.470 --> 01:15:08.350
all. And I had a full workout and I felt fine.

01:15:08.689 --> 01:15:10.590
So I was like, all right, I guess I didn't get

01:15:10.590 --> 01:15:12.560
it. Yeah. And I went and got tested to see if

01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:14.539
I had antibodies, like if I had recovered from

01:15:14.539 --> 01:15:17.239
it. Nope. Never got in there. Yeah. I had sex

01:15:17.239 --> 01:15:19.060
with my wife. She was coughing and shit. That's

01:15:19.060 --> 01:15:21.140
awesome. That's such a fucking beast move, dude.

01:15:22.119 --> 01:15:23.619
She was like, you're going to get it. I'm like,

01:15:23.720 --> 01:15:27.220
let's find out. Let's find out. That is a beast

01:15:27.220 --> 01:15:29.859
move. I'm like terrible at math, but I remember

01:15:29.859 --> 01:15:32.420
looking up like, how likely is it to die from

01:15:32.420 --> 01:15:36.460
this? And it was like 0 .00001 something. I was

01:15:36.460 --> 01:15:39.279
like. I'm fine, man. .01. I know, but there was

01:15:39.279 --> 01:15:41.380
so much propaganda. And it was like the thing

01:15:41.380 --> 01:15:44.479
was we were in the middle of doing podcasts.

01:15:44.619 --> 01:15:47.340
And we tested everybody when they show up, make

01:15:47.340 --> 01:15:49.600
sure that nobody has it, tested all of the employees,

01:15:49.979 --> 01:15:52.560
security guys, everybody that works for me. Everybody

01:15:52.560 --> 01:15:55.100
got tested every day. We'd show up. We'd be separated.

01:15:55.460 --> 01:15:57.399
Nurse would come with a mask on, test everybody.

01:15:57.819 --> 01:16:00.020
And then once we had the results, then we would

01:16:00.020 --> 01:16:03.350
allow the show to go on. I was like, I can't

01:16:03.350 --> 01:16:05.270
fuck this up because if I fuck this up, I fuck

01:16:05.270 --> 01:16:07.109
this up for everybody. Yeah, true. So I got to

01:16:07.109 --> 01:16:09.529
be careful. Yeah. And I just didn't want my guests,

01:16:09.689 --> 01:16:12.250
like the guests were flying in. They were taking

01:16:12.250 --> 01:16:14.970
a chance. A lot of them were older, you know,

01:16:15.010 --> 01:16:17.470
like a lot of professors, you know, they're flying

01:16:17.470 --> 01:16:20.729
in to do this podcast. And I had to make sure.

01:16:20.789 --> 01:16:24.189
And then someone ratted us out. So the health

01:16:24.189 --> 01:16:27.380
department showed up. at the studio and they

01:16:27.380 --> 01:16:30.380
wanted us to have a bag of masks like right when

01:16:30.380 --> 01:16:32.979
you walk in. So we had to put a bag of masks

01:16:32.979 --> 01:16:35.420
right there. We had to put a hand sanitizer thing

01:16:35.420 --> 01:16:38.680
right there and then a sign that says like what

01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:40.960
you're supposed to do, six foot distancing, all

01:16:40.960 --> 01:16:43.100
that shit. I was like, all right. But they were

01:16:43.100 --> 01:16:45.560
saying that we weren't socially distancing. We

01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:48.500
saw him hug people outside the front door. That's

01:16:48.500 --> 01:16:51.609
completely dystopian, man. That's crazy. Yeah,

01:16:51.649 --> 01:16:53.149
I don't know why. You know what it was? Because

01:16:53.149 --> 01:16:54.930
my parents were just like, because, you know,

01:16:54.930 --> 01:16:57.789
the first time we all hung outside, both my parents

01:16:57.789 --> 01:16:59.170
were like, bro, this sucks. We're just coming

01:16:59.170 --> 01:17:01.010
inside. We're not doing this. And that was like.

01:17:01.250 --> 01:17:02.989
Oh, my parents were terrified of it. My parents

01:17:02.989 --> 01:17:03.930
didn't give a fuck. They were like, this is bullshit.

01:17:03.930 --> 01:17:05.289
Yeah, my parents didn't want to hang out with

01:17:05.289 --> 01:17:07.649
anybody until they got vaccinated. Really? Yeah,

01:17:07.710 --> 01:17:09.630
they were real nervous about it. They're older,

01:17:09.810 --> 01:17:11.649
you know? Yeah. It's like, when you get older,

01:17:11.789 --> 01:17:13.510
you know, like, that's why a lot of these people

01:17:13.510 --> 01:17:17.029
are like the. Neil Young's and Howard Stern's

01:17:17.029 --> 01:17:18.329
and all those people that really freaked out

01:17:18.329 --> 01:17:20.850
about it. They're older people. Yeah. So to them,

01:17:20.850 --> 01:17:22.930
they're looking at they might be that one percent

01:17:22.930 --> 01:17:25.470
that dies. Yeah. You know what I mean? Whereas

01:17:25.470 --> 01:17:27.609
like you're young and healthy. You work out.

01:17:27.689 --> 01:17:29.350
You'll be you'll probably be fine. You'll be

01:17:29.350 --> 01:17:32.239
OK. Your wife's healthy. You'll be fine. When

01:17:32.239 --> 01:17:36.500
you're an old person and you smell death in the

01:17:36.500 --> 01:17:39.539
air already. Yeah. Every day you wake up, you're

01:17:39.539 --> 01:17:43.020
like, oh. Your fucking back hurts. Oh, Jesus.

01:17:43.140 --> 01:17:45.880
You can barely get out of bed. Fucking your feet

01:17:45.880 --> 01:17:48.430
are swollen. Like, it could get you. Yeah, it's

01:17:48.430 --> 01:17:50.569
crazy. I'm surprised my parents are like, you

01:17:50.569 --> 01:17:52.529
know, I think they're like going to be 70 soon.

01:17:52.689 --> 01:17:54.489
They were just kind of like, we don't give a

01:17:54.489 --> 01:17:56.750
fuck, man. It depends on where you grew up. I

01:17:56.750 --> 01:17:58.270
think that's what it was, man. They're just kind

01:17:58.270 --> 01:17:59.949
of like, you know, they're all just like, fuck

01:17:59.949 --> 01:18:02.149
that. You know, it's bullshit. No matter what

01:18:02.149 --> 01:18:04.449
it was, it was fucking bullshit. Yeah, if you

01:18:04.449 --> 01:18:06.770
grew up hard. You're not worried about a cough.

01:18:07.029 --> 01:18:09.609
Yeah. I remember I finally got it. I finally

01:18:09.609 --> 01:18:11.409
got it. Dude, it kind of, like, rocked me. The

01:18:11.409 --> 01:18:14.529
first day, I had talked so much shit, and I got

01:18:14.529 --> 01:18:16.189
it. I was like, bro, if I die, this is going

01:18:16.189 --> 01:18:19.489
to suck so bad. It's like, but we got it. My

01:18:19.489 --> 01:18:21.310
wife got it two days later, so then I had it.

01:18:21.369 --> 01:18:22.510
You know, we had, like, a little kid, so I had

01:18:22.510 --> 01:18:23.989
to, like, we just switched off. I kind of was,

01:18:24.029 --> 01:18:26.229
like, recovered enough. So our kid never got

01:18:26.229 --> 01:18:31.859
it. Kids can go right through it. Both of my

01:18:31.859 --> 01:18:33.859
kids got it, and they just burned through it.

01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:36.699
One of them had it more, but she's a little more

01:18:36.699 --> 01:18:39.239
sensitive. She was pretty sick for a couple days.

01:18:39.319 --> 01:18:42.479
Not scary, but she didn't feel good for a couple

01:18:42.479 --> 01:18:44.979
days. The other one barely had it. It went right

01:18:44.979 --> 01:18:47.189
through her. Yeah. Yeah. The one didn't get it

01:18:47.189 --> 01:18:49.029
all. The one had like a runny nose. I was like

01:18:49.029 --> 01:18:51.670
in bed for three straight days, just like hurt.

01:18:51.689 --> 01:18:54.090
Super fever hurting. Were you taking any vitamins

01:18:54.090 --> 01:18:56.170
at the time? No. At the time I wasn't living

01:18:56.170 --> 01:18:57.470
very healthily. See, that's the thing. Yeah.

01:18:57.609 --> 01:19:00.029
I'm all over the vitamins and I was all over

01:19:00.029 --> 01:19:02.390
the vitamins then. And my wife back then, I don't

01:19:02.390 --> 01:19:04.529
think not so much. Yeah. I don't think she did

01:19:04.529 --> 01:19:06.949
as much. So when I was around everybody that

01:19:06.949 --> 01:19:09.520
got it, it just never got to me. Yeah. No, I

01:19:09.520 --> 01:19:13.000
was – we had like a relative newborn kind of

01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:15.800
situation going on. That's a hard one. Your immune

01:19:15.800 --> 01:19:17.739
system is going to be crushed anyway because

01:19:17.739 --> 01:19:20.640
you're getting zero sleep. Yeah. Everybody is

01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:23.239
like ready to fall asleep at any given time.

01:19:23.260 --> 01:19:26.039
Watching TV. I've never recovered. I'm still

01:19:26.039 --> 01:19:28.300
ready to pass out. Like I can fall asleep. I

01:19:28.300 --> 01:19:30.439
go home and I'm fried. I take naps. That was

01:19:30.439 --> 01:19:32.180
a big thing for coffee. Now I can take naps during

01:19:32.180 --> 01:19:33.739
the day. I can't take naps when I drink coffee.

01:19:34.250 --> 01:19:36.569
Oh, I never take naps. Oh, I love them, man.

01:19:36.710 --> 01:19:38.590
A little siesta. The only time I ever take a

01:19:38.590 --> 01:19:40.630
nap is if I have to do something really early

01:19:40.630 --> 01:19:43.130
in the morning. So like if I do a set at night

01:19:43.130 --> 01:19:46.170
and I'm not home until like 1230 and like maybe

01:19:46.170 --> 01:19:48.649
I have to get up at six or something, I'll take

01:19:48.649 --> 01:19:52.149
a little nap. Yeah. Just because for me. There's

01:19:52.149 --> 01:19:55.289
a balance of what's more important, getting things

01:19:55.289 --> 01:19:58.550
done, working out, or not getting into a deficit.

01:19:58.850 --> 01:20:00.810
And for me, it's not getting into a deficit.

01:20:01.090 --> 01:20:04.130
Because if I do a podcast and I'm sleepy, I get

01:20:04.130 --> 01:20:06.529
so mad at myself. I'm like, what are you doing?

01:20:06.670 --> 01:20:10.529
This is your one job. I know. Be awake and talk

01:20:10.529 --> 01:20:14.270
to people. Sleep like a toddler. Oh, wow, that's

01:20:14.270 --> 01:20:18.310
cool. So how long are we in Indonesia for? It

01:20:18.310 --> 01:20:19.989
is embarrassing. You're like, what the fuck,

01:20:19.989 --> 01:20:22.340
man? It's the worst. Just drinking coffee and

01:20:22.340 --> 01:20:25.140
energy drinks and taking nicotine pouches and

01:20:25.140 --> 01:20:27.340
just trying to fire the brain up. Yeah. When

01:20:27.340 --> 01:20:29.840
I do that, my face just gets hot and I'm just

01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:32.039
anxious. It's like, that's why, especially for

01:20:32.039 --> 01:20:34.260
shows, like I try to travel, like I leave like

01:20:34.260 --> 01:20:36.760
on an early, early flight, get where I'm going

01:20:36.760 --> 01:20:39.119
and just take a big nap. Yeah. And then I wake

01:20:39.119 --> 01:20:41.020
up and go do the show. One thing that I started

01:20:41.020 --> 01:20:43.380
doing when I was on the road a lot was I would

01:20:43.380 --> 01:20:45.920
go in on Thursday if I had a show on Friday.

01:20:46.020 --> 01:20:49.260
Yeah. So I would get in Thursday night, sleep.

01:20:49.920 --> 01:20:52.359
And then instead of flying in the day of the

01:20:52.359 --> 01:20:55.859
show, because you're always a little foggy. It's

01:20:55.859 --> 01:20:59.319
hard. And back then I wasn't on the nootropics

01:20:59.319 --> 01:21:01.880
as much. I wasn't taking it with me on the road,

01:21:02.079 --> 01:21:05.640
brain vitamins and shit, like alpha brain. But

01:21:05.640 --> 01:21:07.539
now I don't fuck around. I don't travel without

01:21:07.539 --> 01:21:10.300
that stuff. Yeah. No, you do need it. I do the

01:21:10.300 --> 01:21:12.479
day of. I can't help it. I just go early, nap.

01:21:12.840 --> 01:21:15.579
I did a show in Vegas last weekend that didn't

01:21:15.579 --> 01:21:18.989
start until 10 p .m. Vegas time. I got there.

01:21:19.050 --> 01:21:21.710
It was brutal. I got there, took a nap, woke

01:21:21.710 --> 01:21:25.510
up at like 9 p .m. Vegas time. I felt like a

01:21:25.510 --> 01:21:28.829
bug. You know what my trick for that is? The

01:21:28.829 --> 01:21:32.090
moment you land, the moment you land, put your

01:21:32.090 --> 01:21:34.149
shit in your hotel room, go straight to the gym.

01:21:34.529 --> 01:21:37.970
No ifs, ands, or buts about it. You've got to

01:21:37.970 --> 01:21:40.569
get a workout in. You've got to sweat, like really

01:21:40.569 --> 01:21:44.680
sweat. Just really get it going. Do some push

01:21:44.680 --> 01:21:46.699
-ups, whatever the fuck you want to do, but just

01:21:46.699 --> 01:21:49.520
really sweat. And then it feels like it resets

01:21:49.520 --> 01:21:51.119
your system. I can see that. That would wake

01:21:51.119 --> 01:21:53.619
you up and kind of calm you down. Yeah, it resets

01:21:53.619 --> 01:21:55.859
your system. Like, whatever the fuck happens

01:21:55.859 --> 01:21:57.399
when you're on a plane, when you get off, you're

01:21:57.399 --> 01:21:59.880
just like, brr. Dude, I feel like I've been microwaved.

01:21:59.960 --> 01:22:02.399
Yeah, we have been kind of. Yeah, pretty much.

01:22:02.619 --> 01:22:04.920
I feel, oh, I smell weird. It's like an x -ray.

01:22:04.979 --> 01:22:07.300
You're getting an x -ray. Oh, fuck. Yeah. The

01:22:07.300 --> 01:22:09.199
other day, I was like, maybe it's, like, good

01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:10.960
for me somehow. I'm up here, and it's, like,

01:22:11.060 --> 01:22:13.239
it's just, like, constricting my blood vessels,

01:22:13.300 --> 01:22:15.899
and they, like, turn you into a superhero. Well,

01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:17.920
I, like, was in Denver, and I ran, you know,

01:22:17.939 --> 01:22:19.380
recently. I was, like, running and working out

01:22:19.380 --> 01:22:21.760
in Denver, and I was like. Probably altered now.

01:22:21.800 --> 01:22:23.180
I did like a 30 -minute workout. I'm like, I'm

01:22:23.180 --> 01:22:25.300
probably totally different now. Well, I lived

01:22:25.300 --> 01:22:28.140
above Boulder for a while. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And

01:22:28.140 --> 01:22:31.600
then I had a gig in Philly. So I was living up

01:22:31.600 --> 01:22:33.079
there for a couple of months. I was living at

01:22:33.079 --> 01:22:35.500
8 ,500 feet above sea level. And I'd work out

01:22:35.500 --> 01:22:38.140
up there. And then when I'd go down to Boulder

01:22:38.140 --> 01:22:40.720
at 5 ,500, I had all this endurance. I was like,

01:22:40.739 --> 01:22:42.899
this is crazy. Oh, in Denver. Yeah, from Boulder

01:22:42.899 --> 01:22:45.119
to Denver, you're saying? No, from where I was.

01:22:45.140 --> 01:22:47.300
I was in the mountains above Boulder. And so

01:22:47.300 --> 01:22:49.899
I'd go down to Boulder. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

01:22:50.279 --> 01:22:53.500
It's like 55, 57, whatever it is. But I was at

01:22:53.500 --> 01:22:56.500
85. Damn. Yeah, 8 ,500 feet above sea level.

01:22:56.659 --> 01:22:58.859
Yeah, that's a lot. So then I did a gig in Philly,

01:22:58.859 --> 01:23:00.500
and I went to the gym. And I remember I called

01:23:00.500 --> 01:23:01.979
my friend. I'm like, dude, I feel like I could

01:23:01.979 --> 01:23:04.659
run through a fucking wall. Damn, I want that

01:23:04.659 --> 01:23:08.100
so bad. That's why a lot of athletes train. They

01:23:08.100 --> 01:23:11.319
go to Big Bear in California. They train up there.

01:23:11.619 --> 01:23:14.310
Damn. I kind of, yeah, I got to do it for like

01:23:14.310 --> 01:23:15.869
just once, and I was like, dude, this is awesome.

01:23:16.010 --> 01:23:18.590
Yeah, if you can live at altitude and train at

01:23:18.590 --> 01:23:20.449
altitude and then go down to sea level, you feel

01:23:20.449 --> 01:23:22.270
like you have superpower. Fuck, that's awesome.

01:23:22.489 --> 01:23:24.369
So a lot of endurance athletes, like that's why

01:23:24.369 --> 01:23:26.050
they put the Olympic Training Center in Colorado

01:23:26.050 --> 01:23:28.729
Springs. That makes sense. Yeah, like training

01:23:28.729 --> 01:23:32.079
at altitude is a legit hack. Yeah. I didn't realize,

01:23:32.340 --> 01:23:33.600
because I've always wondered, like, why is it

01:23:33.600 --> 01:23:35.340
so hard? And it's literally just the air thins

01:23:35.340 --> 01:23:36.960
and there's less oxygen. Yeah. It's that simple.

01:23:37.060 --> 01:23:38.920
And then your body has to adapt so you get more

01:23:38.920 --> 01:23:41.420
red blood cells. Yeah. That's why they take EPO.

01:23:41.420 --> 01:23:43.500
That's what EPO does for you. Oh, you don't have

01:23:43.500 --> 01:23:46.600
to go to altitude. Well, I think a lot of them

01:23:46.600 --> 01:23:49.340
do both. You know, they just go as hard as, they

01:23:49.340 --> 01:23:52.260
push it to that, like, how much before I get

01:23:52.260 --> 01:23:55.340
a stroke? It's true. I'm trying to win a gold

01:23:55.340 --> 01:23:57.439
medal. I'm trying to win the Tour de France.

01:23:57.960 --> 01:23:59.880
Dude, I just started, I started spring again.

01:24:00.710 --> 01:24:03.090
Sprinting? Sprinting. Just all out, total sprints.

01:24:03.149 --> 01:24:06.989
And just to see where I was at. I feel like if

01:24:06.989 --> 01:24:09.850
you just stop, you can feel that like... you

01:24:09.850 --> 01:24:11.409
know, age creep in a little bit. And there's

01:24:11.409 --> 01:24:12.510
a lot, I think there's a lot of mental stuff

01:24:12.510 --> 01:24:14.710
to be like, ah, you know, man, it just fucking

01:24:14.710 --> 01:24:15.930
goes. But like, you know, if you're not like

01:24:15.930 --> 01:24:17.930
testing it, you know, how do you know you're

01:24:17.930 --> 01:24:19.550
just not letting yourself go anyway. So I like,

01:24:19.550 --> 01:24:21.189
I was like doing it. I haven't been running like

01:24:21.189 --> 01:24:23.289
that in forever. And dude, like my fingertips

01:24:23.289 --> 01:24:25.029
would be numb. I would do a hundred. I would

01:24:25.029 --> 01:24:27.510
do a hundred meter sprints and I like can't feel

01:24:27.510 --> 01:24:33.210
my hand. Now I can. Now I can. I fixed it. And

01:24:33.210 --> 01:24:35.229
now I, cause you like grow new veins and shit.

01:24:36.140 --> 01:24:38.319
I swear to God, it's true. Are you a doctor?

01:24:38.479 --> 01:24:40.760
I don't know. I've grokked, dude. We're all equal

01:24:40.760 --> 01:24:43.300
now. But, dude, I remember being like, let me

01:24:43.300 --> 01:24:46.279
see where I'm at. And I was like, bro, you really

01:24:46.279 --> 01:24:48.260
do. You use it or lose it, man. And I can run

01:24:48.260 --> 01:24:50.100
now. I did it this morning. I can sprint now,

01:24:50.180 --> 01:24:52.199
and I don't get numb. It's pretty awesome. How

01:24:52.199 --> 01:24:53.720
do you do it? Do you go to a track? I have a

01:24:53.720 --> 01:24:55.380
track, yeah. I have a track near my house, and

01:24:55.380 --> 01:24:57.420
I just fucking bolt early, super early in the

01:24:57.420 --> 01:25:00.529
morning. You feel amazing all day. And so you

01:25:00.529 --> 01:25:02.310
just pick a certain amount of distance you're

01:25:02.310 --> 01:25:04.430
going to run? Yeah, I'll do, like, someday, like,

01:25:04.529 --> 01:25:08.489
today I did, like, two 300s, two 200s, and then,

01:25:08.529 --> 01:25:10.630
like, we're supposed to do four 150s. I got two,

01:25:10.630 --> 01:25:12.489
and I was like, I'm tapped. So you're done in,

01:25:12.529 --> 01:25:14.989
like, 15, 20 minutes. You're done. You go there,

01:25:15.050 --> 01:25:17.770
I'm there at, like, 6 o 'clock, and I'm done

01:25:17.770 --> 01:25:20.770
in 20 minutes. And you feel like, it's like you

01:25:20.770 --> 01:25:22.090
were talking about, you run to a city and just

01:25:22.090 --> 01:25:24.470
get, like, an all -out workout. Yeah. You feel

01:25:24.470 --> 01:25:26.909
like you're walking on air for... the rest of

01:25:26.909 --> 01:25:29.729
the day that makes sense there was a study recently

01:25:29.729 --> 01:25:32.850
about explosive exercise and that that's one

01:25:32.850 --> 01:25:35.149
of the things that's lacking in like older people

01:25:35.149 --> 01:25:37.149
as they get older they stop doing any kind of

01:25:37.149 --> 01:25:39.529
explosive exercise like sprinting yeah and how

01:25:39.529 --> 01:25:42.229
beneficial that is for maintaining your health

01:25:42.229 --> 01:25:45.270
and your ability to move around dude i'm telling

01:25:45.270 --> 01:25:46.869
you like i lived that was like such a drastic

01:25:46.869 --> 01:25:48.789
thing but i was like damn this is my circulation

01:25:48.789 --> 01:25:50.930
is like going like i can't fucking run without

01:25:50.930 --> 01:25:53.149
my hands feeling all like pins and needly that's

01:25:53.149 --> 01:25:55.069
so weird and it just they came back now i can

01:25:55.069 --> 01:25:56.520
do it my fingers Fingers feel fine. You're getting

01:25:56.520 --> 01:25:58.319
in shape. Yeah, it's pretty nuts. Because that

01:25:58.319 --> 01:26:00.260
was the thing. Cardio is always like, cardio

01:26:00.260 --> 01:26:02.359
is dumb. Who cares? And then you're like, I learned.

01:26:03.079 --> 01:26:04.979
I think it's just like you secrete growth hormone

01:26:04.979 --> 01:26:07.359
and then your veins and capillaries start like,

01:26:07.479 --> 01:26:09.380
you get literally, you get like new and wider

01:26:09.380 --> 01:26:11.899
veins. It makes sense. It's pretty cool. It makes

01:26:11.899 --> 01:26:13.840
sense. I mean, your heart is fucking pounding

01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:16.420
out of your chest. Yeah. You're hitting 180 beats

01:26:16.420 --> 01:26:18.680
per minute. It's like fucking forcing all that

01:26:18.680 --> 01:26:22.159
shit through. Just clearing it out. Like, all

01:26:22.159 --> 01:26:23.699
right, let's, what are we holding on to right

01:26:23.699 --> 01:26:26.420
now? But see, like you never got fat or you never

01:26:26.420 --> 01:26:28.640
got like really badly out of shape. When you

01:26:28.640 --> 01:26:32.899
see a guy like Jelly Roll, like I have so. much

01:26:32.899 --> 01:26:35.699
respect for that man. Yeah. I have so much respect

01:26:35.699 --> 01:26:39.920
for that man. That dude lost 300 pounds. Dude,

01:26:39.960 --> 01:26:44.779
how? He lost 300 pounds. No Ozempic. Just stopped

01:26:44.779 --> 01:26:47.340
eating sugar. Wait, that was no Ozempic? No Ozempic.

01:26:47.359 --> 01:26:50.180
He took testosterone replacement. That's it.

01:26:50.300 --> 01:26:53.479
That's fucking sick. Sick. I just assumed. I

01:26:53.479 --> 01:26:55.140
was like, he's got to be on Ozempic. He started

01:26:55.140 --> 01:26:57.359
off just walking, man. That's awesome. Just trying

01:26:57.359 --> 01:26:59.539
to walk. When he came here, last time we did

01:26:59.539 --> 01:27:03.640
a podcast, he ran, I forget. I think he ran 6

01:27:03.640 --> 01:27:07.340
.2 miles the day before. So they ran. He was

01:27:07.340 --> 01:27:10.000
deer hunting down in South Texas. And he was

01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:11.579
with my friend Cam Haynes. And they went on a

01:27:11.579 --> 01:27:14.720
run. They did 6 .2 miles. They ran. And hills

01:27:14.720 --> 01:27:17.699
and shit. Yeah. And then he came in here before

01:27:17.699 --> 01:27:21.340
the podcast. He ran 2 .6 on the treadmill. So

01:27:21.340 --> 01:27:23.340
I was working out. And he was over there running

01:27:23.340 --> 01:27:26.199
and talking and laughing. Look how good he looks.

01:27:26.359 --> 01:27:29.199
Yeah. How crazy is that? Fucking nuts. It's amazing.

01:27:29.539 --> 01:27:32.229
It's amazing. I mean, we did the whole deal.

01:27:32.289 --> 01:27:34.789
We did the sauna afterwards. It was awesome.

01:27:34.869 --> 01:27:38.010
How long did he lose it? Three years. Three years.

01:27:38.149 --> 01:27:40.750
God damn, that's crazy. And he did it the right

01:27:40.750 --> 01:27:42.909
way. He did it the hard way, just working out

01:27:42.909 --> 01:27:45.869
and eating right. No sugar, no bullshit, eating

01:27:45.869 --> 01:27:50.310
clean food, and just slowly let his body drop

01:27:50.310 --> 01:27:52.970
over and over again. He's got to feel awesome.

01:27:53.229 --> 01:27:56.189
Yeah. It's got to be amazing. Damn. How would

01:27:56.189 --> 01:27:57.789
you say that's doing, like, career -wise? If

01:27:57.789 --> 01:27:59.569
he has, like, a persona and he's known as, like,

01:27:59.569 --> 01:28:03.479
this, you know. He's got an amazing voice. Yeah.

01:28:03.800 --> 01:28:07.180
I mean, the amazing voice is still amazing. Yeah.

01:28:07.220 --> 01:28:09.319
Well, your voice changes with fluctuation with

01:28:09.319 --> 01:28:11.600
weight a little bit. How does it change? I don't

01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:13.100
know. I've heard like if you're like an alto

01:28:13.100 --> 01:28:16.000
or something like that and you're at a certain

01:28:16.000 --> 01:28:17.619
weight, it can change if you kind of – because

01:28:17.619 --> 01:28:19.739
this is your diaphragm, I guess, and your stomach.

01:28:19.739 --> 01:28:21.680
I know some dudes who lost a lot of weight and

01:28:21.680 --> 01:28:23.319
they didn't like the way they look when they

01:28:23.319 --> 01:28:25.020
were thin because their head was too big. Yeah.

01:28:25.180 --> 01:28:27.100
Isn't that weird? Yeah. Like your head gets big

01:28:27.100 --> 01:28:29.510
when you get heavier. Yeah. Oh, it just grows.

01:28:29.729 --> 01:28:31.029
Yeah, it makes sense. It would grow with your

01:28:31.029 --> 01:28:33.670
fucking body. Significant weight loss can change

01:28:33.670 --> 01:28:35.729
a person's voice, often making it sound higher

01:28:35.729 --> 01:28:38.050
pitched, lighter, or clearer due to reduced fat

01:28:38.050 --> 01:28:40.270
accumulation around the larynx, throat, and chest.

01:28:40.590 --> 01:28:42.890
These physical changes decrease pressure on the

01:28:42.890 --> 01:28:45.470
vocal cords, improving breathing, resonance,

01:28:45.649 --> 01:28:47.810
and reducing the effort required to produce sound.

01:28:48.010 --> 01:28:49.989
So it makes you a better singer. But does it

01:28:49.989 --> 01:28:51.689
though? Because like opera singers, aren't they

01:28:51.689 --> 01:28:53.649
all fat? I think so. Classically. I wonder if

01:28:53.649 --> 01:28:56.399
you have to be. I don't know. Are there any really

01:28:56.399 --> 01:28:59.380
thin, handsome opera singers? Yeah, I don't know

01:28:59.380 --> 01:29:02.359
about all fat. I like to just generalize. I think

01:29:02.359 --> 01:29:06.140
it's a cartoon. I have the same thing. I'm like,

01:29:06.199 --> 01:29:07.539
yeah, I've seen that in cartoons as well. Oh,

01:29:07.539 --> 01:29:10.899
those are the big fat jolly guys. Fat lady with

01:29:10.899 --> 01:29:13.060
Viking helmet. Yeah, it's always. But that sounds

01:29:13.060 --> 01:29:15.260
good, though. So your voice gets clearer, higher

01:29:15.260 --> 01:29:17.560
pitched. And it's not as much effort. Yeah. Sounds

01:29:17.560 --> 01:29:19.199
like that's R &B legend status then. You can

01:29:19.199 --> 01:29:21.710
do high notes. cat cardio like you'll have way

01:29:21.710 --> 01:29:25.130
more cardio your heart won't beat as fast you'll

01:29:25.130 --> 01:29:27.569
be able to have more oxygen to sing yeah dude

01:29:27.569 --> 01:29:30.229
it's all good yeah that's awesome I mean his

01:29:30.229 --> 01:29:32.949
voice is amazing and it's his songwriting too

01:29:32.949 --> 01:29:34.810
it's not just the voice it's like what he's singing

01:29:34.810 --> 01:29:37.210
about it's like that's not gonna get worse yeah

01:29:37.210 --> 01:29:39.310
and his fans I have it like a weird thing in

01:29:39.310 --> 01:29:41.329
my head where like for comedy I'm like if I get

01:29:41.329 --> 01:29:42.989
in too good of shape people are gonna be like

01:29:42.989 --> 01:29:45.710
fuck this guy which I don't that's not what's

01:29:45.710 --> 01:29:47.630
stopping me but it's like you always wonder about

01:29:47.630 --> 01:29:49.979
that like I wonder if they'd be like damn Right.

01:29:50.039 --> 01:29:52.560
You know what I mean? Well, that is a weird thing.

01:29:52.699 --> 01:29:55.859
I never go on stage with a t -shirt on. Yeah,

01:29:55.899 --> 01:29:58.600
if you're too jacked, yeah. I would never go

01:29:58.600 --> 01:30:01.739
on stage with a tank top on. Tank might be kind

01:30:01.739 --> 01:30:03.560
of funny. Tank would be kind of funny. That's

01:30:03.560 --> 01:30:06.840
crazy. That would be crazy. Rich Voss used to

01:30:06.840 --> 01:30:08.779
do that all the time. He always wore a tank top

01:30:08.779 --> 01:30:11.899
on stage. That makes perfect sense. Yeah, Voss.

01:30:12.020 --> 01:30:15.539
Yeah. Character. Like Kid Rock style. I just

01:30:15.539 --> 01:30:19.279
saw, did you see the workout vid? No, what do

01:30:19.279 --> 01:30:21.399
you mean? You didn't see the Kid Rock Robert

01:30:21.399 --> 01:30:23.800
Kennedy workout vid? Shut up. You didn't see

01:30:23.800 --> 01:30:25.899
this? No. Bro. You said he did it off social

01:30:25.899 --> 01:30:27.380
media, so he must have really got off social

01:30:27.380 --> 01:30:30.699
media. I'm off social media. Dude, it is. It's

01:30:30.699 --> 01:30:32.840
very funny. I'm off social media, but apparently

01:30:32.840 --> 01:30:34.779
I'm not off the fucking news, which I think I

01:30:34.779 --> 01:30:36.640
have to be off now. Yeah. Because I haven't been

01:30:36.640 --> 01:30:38.380
gone on social media, but I'll read the Apple

01:30:38.380 --> 01:30:40.380
News feed and the Google News feed, and I'm like,

01:30:40.439 --> 01:30:42.899
fuck. That's basically scrolling, too. I tried

01:30:42.899 --> 01:30:45.239
the same thing. I was reading about B -52s headed

01:30:45.239 --> 01:30:49.239
to some Air Force base, nuclear -equipped B -52s.

01:30:49.260 --> 01:30:51.560
I'm like, what are we doing? Yeah. So let me

01:30:51.560 --> 01:30:53.699
see this workout video. It's Kid Rock and, oh,

01:30:53.739 --> 01:30:56.880
Jesus Christ. Bro. Oh, this must be Kid Rock's

01:30:56.880 --> 01:30:59.340
house. Yeah, I think so, yeah. Rock out, workout.

01:31:02.180 --> 01:31:05.800
RFK Jr. works out in jeans. Yeah. Look, he always

01:31:05.800 --> 01:31:08.979
works out in jeans, which is so crazy. Yeah,

01:31:09.020 --> 01:31:11.659
this is Kid Rock's house. Kid Rock has a fucking

01:31:11.659 --> 01:31:13.939
insane house that looks like the White House.

01:31:14.140 --> 01:31:16.560
The outside of it looks like the White House,

01:31:16.659 --> 01:31:19.939
but the inside of it has two bedrooms, and it's

01:31:19.939 --> 01:31:23.260
like 25 ,000 square feet. It's an enormous house

01:31:23.260 --> 01:31:25.520
with two bedrooms. Yeah, it's all just party.

01:31:25.899 --> 01:31:29.699
He's got a huge hot tub room. Look at R .F .K.

01:31:29.859 --> 01:31:31.399
Jr.'s fucking track, dude. He's jacked up. He's

01:31:31.399 --> 01:31:34.359
awesome. For $70 on the Airdyne. Look at him

01:31:34.359 --> 01:31:36.579
doing push -ups. These guys are doing the Airdyne

01:31:36.579 --> 01:31:40.180
in the sauna. I know. Wild. Yeah, I think they

01:31:40.180 --> 01:31:42.260
go to his like. Cold plunge with jeans on? Cold

01:31:42.260 --> 01:31:44.800
plunge jeans. What are you doing? What the fuck

01:31:44.800 --> 01:31:46.939
are you doing? That is ridiculous. What's wrong

01:31:46.939 --> 01:31:49.880
with your legs? Now I need to know. Where's kid?

01:31:50.460 --> 01:31:53.800
So this is his crazy room that looks like a mining

01:31:53.800 --> 01:31:56.560
like cavern. I've heard of his secret grotto.

01:31:56.859 --> 01:31:59.279
He's got like this. It's really cool. He's really

01:31:59.279 --> 01:32:01.159
into pickleball too. He plays pickleball every

01:32:01.159 --> 01:32:02.960
morning. That's what he's telling me. He goes

01:32:02.960 --> 01:32:05.909
like, get up. Play pickleball, 7 a .m. Play pickleball.

01:32:06.310 --> 01:32:07.670
He's like, dude, I fucking love it. That's what

01:32:07.670 --> 01:32:10.130
it looks like. Look at how dope that is. His

01:32:10.130 --> 01:32:13.949
house is so dope. It's the fucking dopest house

01:32:13.949 --> 01:32:15.550
I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, that's awesome.

01:32:15.729 --> 01:32:17.909
And it's such a kid rock house. The outside of

01:32:17.909 --> 01:32:20.630
it looks exactly like the White House. That's

01:32:20.630 --> 01:32:22.449
impressive. Just larger. I don't want you to

01:32:22.449 --> 01:32:24.130
be distracted from the whole milk they're drinking

01:32:24.130 --> 01:32:25.829
in the hot tub. Oh, they're drinking raw milk.

01:32:25.989 --> 01:32:29.909
That's raw, bro. Yeah. Can I bring your attention

01:32:29.909 --> 01:32:31.270
to something that's been happening on the internet

01:32:31.270 --> 01:32:34.979
since we've been live? Yes. President Trump was

01:32:34.979 --> 01:32:38.520
asked about Obama talking about the aliens. I

01:32:38.520 --> 01:32:40.640
got a video on the screen. Perfect. I want to

01:32:40.640 --> 01:32:44.060
hear it myself. Yeah. Barack Obama said that

01:32:44.060 --> 01:32:48.060
aliens are real. Have you seen any evidence of

01:32:48.060 --> 01:32:51.359
non -human visitors to Earth? Well, he gave classified

01:32:51.359 --> 01:32:53.560
information. He's not supposed to be doing that.

01:32:53.939 --> 01:32:56.079
So aliens are real? Well, I don't know if they're

01:32:56.079 --> 01:32:57.800
real or not. I can tell you he gave classified

01:32:57.800 --> 01:33:00.100
information. He's not supposed to be doing that.

01:33:00.239 --> 01:33:03.779
He made a big mistake. He took it out of classified

01:33:03.779 --> 01:33:07.060
information. No, I don't have an opinion on it.

01:33:07.119 --> 01:33:09.979
I never talk about it. A lot of people do. A

01:33:09.979 --> 01:33:13.060
lot of people believe it. Do you believe it,

01:33:13.159 --> 01:33:19.319
Peter? I do now. I may get him out of trouble

01:33:19.319 --> 01:33:22.680
by declassifying. I may get him out of trouble

01:33:22.680 --> 01:33:30.380
by declassifying. That's hilarious. I may get

01:33:30.380 --> 01:33:33.479
him out of trouble by declassifying. Jeez, I

01:33:33.479 --> 01:33:38.090
hope he does. Yeah, really? Yeah. Imagine you

01:33:38.090 --> 01:33:40.449
can get in trouble as a president for saying

01:33:40.449 --> 01:33:42.869
aliens are real. I don't think so, man. I don't

01:33:42.869 --> 01:33:43.850
think he's going to get in trouble for that.

01:33:44.149 --> 01:33:46.350
Well, what did he say then? What was that? They've

01:33:46.350 --> 01:33:48.109
been saying there's aliens. Right, but what did

01:33:48.109 --> 01:33:50.670
he just say? He just hates Obama. He's going

01:33:50.670 --> 01:33:53.170
like, oh, he's going to jail. I'm getting Hillary

01:33:53.170 --> 01:33:55.409
and I'm getting Obama for aliens. They all hate

01:33:55.409 --> 01:33:57.250
each other and they all hang out and shake hands.

01:33:57.390 --> 01:33:59.869
Yeah. Yeah, whose funeral was that when George

01:33:59.869 --> 01:34:01.789
Bush and them were handing out candy to each

01:34:01.789 --> 01:34:03.250
other? It was like George Bush. Well, George

01:34:03.250 --> 01:34:05.189
Bush and Michelle Obama are apparently friends.

01:34:05.409 --> 01:34:06.989
Oh, they're buddies. Yeah. Okay. Which everybody

01:34:06.989 --> 01:34:09.890
thought. But George Bush never engaged in this

01:34:09.890 --> 01:34:13.069
insult kind of thing that Trump does. It's true.

01:34:13.250 --> 01:34:15.069
It's a different thing. Yeah, that's totally

01:34:15.069 --> 01:34:17.949
true. He was always very classy. Yeah. Yeah.

01:34:18.029 --> 01:34:19.649
And especially when you see the videos of him

01:34:19.649 --> 01:34:21.869
back in the day, now you're like, man, this guy's

01:34:21.869 --> 01:34:24.829
lovable. Oh, dude, in comparison to the politicians

01:34:24.829 --> 01:34:26.489
of today? That's what I'm saying, yeah. He was

01:34:26.489 --> 01:34:29.229
like, oh, when is he running again? The guy's

01:34:29.229 --> 01:34:30.930
a complete class act. And then you're like, oh,

01:34:30.930 --> 01:34:32.289
yeah, fuck the Middle East. Forgot about that,

01:34:32.350 --> 01:34:34.789
but it's like. Oh, yeah. Well, he had Satan on

01:34:34.789 --> 01:34:38.189
his side. Yeah, true. Dick Cheney was running

01:34:38.189 --> 01:34:40.930
around fucking shooting his friends in the face

01:34:40.930 --> 01:34:43.229
and hunting trips. That's true. I don't know.

01:34:43.270 --> 01:34:45.899
I mean, that thing is like, dude. Was it classified?

01:34:46.100 --> 01:34:48.539
But then if Trump's going to be like that he

01:34:48.539 --> 01:34:50.199
gave out classified, then he's letting you know

01:34:50.199 --> 01:34:52.000
it's classified. He's telling you the cat's out

01:34:52.000 --> 01:34:54.239
of the bag. Well, he's saying I may declassify

01:34:54.239 --> 01:34:58.640
it. I hope he does. I hope this gets him. Because

01:34:58.640 --> 01:35:02.180
that is a weird thing to say. He's not supposed

01:35:02.180 --> 01:35:04.079
to be saying that. Well, that means it's real.

01:35:04.279 --> 01:35:06.739
He gave out classified information. That means

01:35:06.739 --> 01:35:09.819
there's real data that aliens are real. That's

01:35:09.819 --> 01:35:11.800
the only thing you could draw as a conclusion

01:35:11.800 --> 01:35:14.329
from that statement. Yeah. Right? Yeah, you would

01:35:14.329 --> 01:35:17.789
think. I don't think he's—I would try to come

01:35:17.789 --> 01:35:20.689
up with another reasonable way he would say aliens

01:35:20.689 --> 01:35:22.930
are real. You shouldn't say that because it's

01:35:22.930 --> 01:35:26.170
classified. Yeah. That means it's real. Yeah,

01:35:26.250 --> 01:35:28.390
it is, but that's such a crazy—if Trump was trying

01:35:28.390 --> 01:35:30.189
to keep it classified, you'd think he'd be like,

01:35:30.210 --> 01:35:31.550
I don't know what he's talking about. I don't

01:35:31.550 --> 01:35:32.970
know, dude. Being like, well, yeah, they are,

01:35:33.029 --> 01:35:34.449
but I can't say they are, and he's in trouble

01:35:34.449 --> 01:35:37.170
now. I told you I've talked to Bob Lazar many

01:35:37.170 --> 01:35:40.039
times. Oh, yeah. I had him on the podcast. I

01:35:40.039 --> 01:35:42.800
had dinner with him and Andrew Schultz. Schultz

01:35:42.800 --> 01:35:45.079
was in town in L .A. I go, what are you doing

01:35:45.079 --> 01:35:47.520
tonight? And he goes, why, what's up? I go, you

01:35:47.520 --> 01:35:49.399
want to go have dinner with Bob Lazar? He's the

01:35:49.399 --> 01:35:51.960
guy that used to back engineer UFOs at Area 51.

01:35:51.960 --> 01:35:55.779
He goes, fuck, yes. Damn. All right. So we went

01:35:55.779 --> 01:35:57.920
to Fogo de Chao in L .A. That's awesome. And

01:35:57.920 --> 01:36:01.079
we sat down with Bob Lazar and just got to ask

01:36:01.079 --> 01:36:04.189
him all these questions. I've known him for years

01:36:04.189 --> 01:36:06.729
now. So I've known him for probably, when I did

01:36:06.729 --> 01:36:08.369
the podcast with him, what year was that, Jamie?

01:36:09.729 --> 01:36:14.489
2019? 2019. So I've known him for six, seven

01:36:14.489 --> 01:36:18.069
years now, however it runs out time -wise. And

01:36:18.069 --> 01:36:21.789
he's always had the same story. He's a very reasonable

01:36:21.789 --> 01:36:24.329
guy. I've had dinner with him a couple times.

01:36:24.949 --> 01:36:27.170
Super normal guy. Doesn't seem like a big, fat

01:36:27.170 --> 01:36:30.869
liar. Obviously a scientist. Obviously a very

01:36:30.869 --> 01:36:33.770
brilliant guy. Like, I don't know what to think.

01:36:33.949 --> 01:36:37.510
I keep searching for some bullshit. I keep searching

01:36:37.510 --> 01:36:40.430
for something. He never saw any aliens. He never

01:36:40.430 --> 01:36:43.350
saw anything. He just was back engineering these

01:36:43.350 --> 01:36:45.789
crafts that didn't make any sense. He's like,

01:36:45.829 --> 01:36:48.710
he got there. He saw it. The moment he saw it,

01:36:48.729 --> 01:36:50.270
it looked like that thing. That's what it's based

01:36:50.270 --> 01:36:52.710
on. That thing on the desk, that's the sport

01:36:52.710 --> 01:36:57.220
model. Jesus Christ. There's a guy named Designs

01:36:57.220 --> 01:37:00.500
by Perry, and the E in Perry is a three, and

01:37:00.500 --> 01:37:02.579
he makes these. You can buy them on the internet.

01:37:02.659 --> 01:37:06.460
He makes like a desk clock or a desk lamp, rather.

01:37:06.640 --> 01:37:09.479
So he'd have to examine the motor or whatever,

01:37:09.600 --> 01:37:10.920
the mechanisms of that, and try to fix it? Well,

01:37:10.920 --> 01:37:12.619
they didn't even tell him what he was doing.

01:37:13.069 --> 01:37:15.630
So this is what it was. So he worked at Los Alamos,

01:37:15.829 --> 01:37:20.630
Los Alamos Labs in New Mexico. And he was a propulsions

01:37:20.630 --> 01:37:23.909
expert. He had famously put a jet engine on the

01:37:23.909 --> 01:37:26.890
back of a Honda. He built a Honda with a jet

01:37:26.890 --> 01:37:29.710
engine on it just for funsies. He was just a

01:37:29.710 --> 01:37:33.149
genius. He just loved engineering and doing things.

01:37:33.590 --> 01:37:37.130
And he had contacted this guy about getting some

01:37:37.130 --> 01:37:42.140
work. work in laboratories or whatever. And he

01:37:42.140 --> 01:37:45.140
said, I might have something for you that is

01:37:45.140 --> 01:37:48.100
more along the lines with your capabilities.

01:37:48.739 --> 01:37:50.600
I'm going to set up a meeting for you. So he

01:37:50.600 --> 01:37:52.159
sets up this meeting for him. He has no idea

01:37:52.159 --> 01:37:54.260
what the meeting is about. He has no idea what

01:37:54.260 --> 01:37:56.079
they're doing. They don't tell him. They just

01:37:56.079 --> 01:37:57.680
started asking him about his background, what

01:37:57.680 --> 01:38:00.119
he did at Los Alamos, what he's interested in.

01:38:00.340 --> 01:38:02.579
And he's like, it just tells his whole story

01:38:02.579 --> 01:38:04.800
of science and this and that. And so they had

01:38:04.800 --> 01:38:07.460
already heard about him. So they go, okay. Show

01:38:07.460 --> 01:38:10.699
up at this place. There's airplanes that are

01:38:10.699 --> 01:38:13.279
going to fly you out to where you're going. So

01:38:13.279 --> 01:38:15.239
he's like, okay. So no one even knew about these

01:38:15.239 --> 01:38:17.020
airplanes back then. Now it's been confirmed

01:38:17.020 --> 01:38:18.920
that there's a bunch of airplanes right outside

01:38:18.920 --> 01:38:20.939
of Mandalay Bay. You could see these airplanes

01:38:20.939 --> 01:38:24.859
that they fly, the employees that work in Area

01:38:24.859 --> 01:38:27.699
51, and they live in Las Vegas. They just fly

01:38:27.699 --> 01:38:29.520
them out there. But nobody knew about this in

01:38:29.520 --> 01:38:32.140
1989 when he was talking about it, when he blew

01:38:32.140 --> 01:38:34.600
the whistle on it. Yeah, yeah. And so they fly

01:38:34.600 --> 01:38:39.010
them out there. Show him how everything works

01:38:39.010 --> 01:38:41.630
for a couple days in terms of how the base works

01:38:41.630 --> 01:38:43.430
and where you have access to, what you don't

01:38:43.430 --> 01:38:45.909
have access to. They bring him this guy that

01:38:45.909 --> 01:38:47.970
is his co -worker that was there before. And

01:38:47.970 --> 01:38:50.729
then it was going to show him the ropes. And

01:38:50.729 --> 01:38:52.949
then a couple days in, they bring him into a

01:38:52.949 --> 01:38:56.369
hangar. And there's that thing. And it has an

01:38:56.369 --> 01:38:59.029
American flag sticker on it. And so he goes,

01:38:59.189 --> 01:39:02.979
oh, these are ours. He's like, oh, my God, no

01:39:02.979 --> 01:39:06.500
wonder why people are seeing these things. This

01:39:06.500 --> 01:39:09.899
is something that we have. So then they tell

01:39:09.899 --> 01:39:13.439
him, essentially tell us how it works. He's like,

01:39:13.479 --> 01:39:16.420
what is this, a test? Like, they're very vague

01:39:16.420 --> 01:39:18.199
about everything. No one's telling him where

01:39:18.199 --> 01:39:19.560
it came from. No one's telling him anything.

01:39:19.979 --> 01:39:22.439
And then he realizes, like, the whole thing doesn't

01:39:22.439 --> 01:39:24.579
make sense because there's no welds. There's

01:39:24.579 --> 01:39:28.119
no seams. It's like it's 3D printed and you have

01:39:28.119 --> 01:39:30.180
to crawl in it because it's designed for people

01:39:30.180 --> 01:39:32.539
that are like three feet tall. Whoa. And there's

01:39:32.539 --> 01:39:35.880
no controls in it. It's like, what is this? And

01:39:35.880 --> 01:39:39.439
there's this generator in the center of it that

01:39:39.439 --> 01:39:44.180
has this triangle piece of this element that

01:39:44.180 --> 01:39:47.100
doesn't even exist on Earth. This element 115.

01:39:47.260 --> 01:39:50.600
He's like, wait, what the fuck is going on? And

01:39:50.600 --> 01:39:53.439
they explained to him, you bombard this element

01:39:53.439 --> 01:39:55.939
with radiation. This is how this thing works.

01:39:56.000 --> 01:39:57.739
You put this dome on it. It gets bombarded with

01:39:57.739 --> 01:40:02.199
radiation. And then that causes this field around

01:40:02.199 --> 01:40:04.579
this craft that allows you to move around. And

01:40:04.579 --> 01:40:07.460
so they do a demonstration for him. He goes outside.

01:40:07.640 --> 01:40:10.939
They fly this thing. When he's under it, he can't

01:40:10.939 --> 01:40:15.500
see it. He has to step away from where he is

01:40:15.500 --> 01:40:18.930
so he can see it again. He's like. What the fuck

01:40:18.930 --> 01:40:21.189
is this thing? It's not making any noise. It

01:40:21.189 --> 01:40:23.449
moves around. It gives off this like glowing

01:40:23.449 --> 01:40:27.409
light when whatever that, whatever this generator

01:40:27.409 --> 01:40:30.550
inside of it is operational. It gives off this

01:40:30.550 --> 01:40:33.210
blue glowing light. And this thing was like silently

01:40:33.210 --> 01:40:35.529
flying around. And occasionally it would go from

01:40:35.529 --> 01:40:38.970
one point to another very quickly. Like it could

01:40:38.970 --> 01:40:42.050
go from like this part of the mountain to that

01:40:42.050 --> 01:40:44.189
part of the mountain and just appear there. And

01:40:44.189 --> 01:40:45.489
it would look like it just disappeared because

01:40:45.489 --> 01:40:48.199
it would move so fast it would just. appear in

01:40:48.199 --> 01:40:49.859
a new place, it seemed like. What was steering

01:40:49.859 --> 01:40:52.720
the thing? I don't understand it, and he didn't

01:40:52.720 --> 01:40:56.380
understand it either. They don't exactly know.

01:40:56.460 --> 01:41:01.020
He knows how supposedly this generator, there's

01:41:01.020 --> 01:41:03.539
these gravity beam projectors that are on the

01:41:03.539 --> 01:41:05.899
bottom of it, and the way you get it to fly fast,

01:41:06.140 --> 01:41:09.000
it would turn sideways, and then it would point

01:41:09.000 --> 01:41:11.579
these gravity projectors, or whatever they called

01:41:11.579 --> 01:41:14.380
it, into a certain direction. It would create

01:41:14.380 --> 01:41:19.390
this... void around this craft and it would just

01:41:19.390 --> 01:41:21.750
instantaneously go to wherever it was supposed

01:41:21.750 --> 01:41:25.109
to go. That's crazy. Right. And so he's working

01:41:25.109 --> 01:41:27.189
on this for, you know, months and months. And

01:41:27.189 --> 01:41:30.170
then his wife starts having an affair on him

01:41:30.170 --> 01:41:33.500
because he doesn't. tell her what he's doing

01:41:33.500 --> 01:41:35.779
it's like super top secret and so when you have

01:41:35.779 --> 01:41:38.220
this super top secret clearance you can't tell

01:41:38.220 --> 01:41:40.819
anybody what you're doing so he's like i gotta

01:41:40.819 --> 01:41:42.560
go to work she's like it's 11 o 'clock at night

01:41:42.560 --> 01:41:44.279
where are you going he's like i have to go to

01:41:44.279 --> 01:41:46.680
work so he would just jet off and she was like

01:41:46.680 --> 01:41:49.060
well i'm gonna go fuck my flight attendant yeah

01:41:49.060 --> 01:41:53.739
or my flight uh instructor so this is all recorded

01:41:53.739 --> 01:41:56.800
because they're tapping his phones and so they

01:41:56.800 --> 01:41:59.760
they suspend him Because they were wondering

01:41:59.760 --> 01:42:02.479
if he's going to be emotionally unstable. So

01:42:02.479 --> 01:42:05.260
while he's suspended, he takes his friends. He's

01:42:05.260 --> 01:42:06.899
like, I got to tell people about this. Like,

01:42:06.939 --> 01:42:08.520
I can't even work. Something's going on. I got

01:42:08.520 --> 01:42:11.180
to tell these people. Like, hey, every Wednesday

01:42:11.180 --> 01:42:13.319
I have the schedule. Every Wednesday they fly

01:42:13.319 --> 01:42:15.180
these fucking things. And the reason why they

01:42:15.180 --> 01:42:16.899
do it on Wednesday is because that's when there's

01:42:16.899 --> 01:42:19.460
the least amount of traffic on the roads. So

01:42:19.460 --> 01:42:21.800
he takes his wife and he takes a couple of friends

01:42:21.800 --> 01:42:23.779
and he takes them up to see this thing. And they

01:42:23.779 --> 01:42:25.479
go once and then they go twice and then they

01:42:25.479 --> 01:42:28.010
get caught. Damn. And then when they get caught,

01:42:28.170 --> 01:42:30.930
then they grill him. They scare him. They're

01:42:30.930 --> 01:42:32.949
poking him in the chest with a gun and they're

01:42:32.949 --> 01:42:34.609
freaking him out. And then they tell him about

01:42:34.609 --> 01:42:37.289
his wife and the affair and all this shit. And

01:42:37.289 --> 01:42:40.989
so then he goes public. And so he gets a hold

01:42:40.989 --> 01:42:43.619
of this guy, George Knapp. who's a news reporter

01:42:43.619 --> 01:42:46.539
in Las Vegas. And he tells him the story. Initially,

01:42:47.220 --> 01:42:51.199
they black his face out so he could remain anonymous.

01:42:51.359 --> 01:42:52.760
He's like, look, the only way I can stay alive,

01:42:52.979 --> 01:42:55.439
you have to show my face. Because they're threatening

01:42:55.439 --> 01:42:58.000
him. They broke into his house. He goes outside.

01:42:58.079 --> 01:42:59.800
He goes to the gym, goes outside. His trunk is

01:42:59.800 --> 01:43:01.699
open. His hood is open. All his doors are open.

01:43:01.779 --> 01:43:04.380
The car was locked. No one broke into it. So

01:43:04.380 --> 01:43:06.640
he has no idea. They're fucking with him. And

01:43:06.640 --> 01:43:08.699
he's really worried. Someone shoots his tire

01:43:08.699 --> 01:43:12.720
out on the highway. Where is he now? Just chilling?

01:43:12.840 --> 01:43:14.939
Well, he's – I don't know if I'm supposed to

01:43:14.939 --> 01:43:16.939
say where he lives. Oh, whatever. But he's, like,

01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:18.579
around. Yeah. No, he's around. I mean, this is

01:43:18.579 --> 01:43:21.000
a long time ago. It was a long time ago. And,

01:43:21.060 --> 01:43:23.560
you know, he was kind of discredited. They tried

01:43:23.560 --> 01:43:25.800
to discredit him. They said he never worked at

01:43:25.800 --> 01:43:28.079
Los Alamos Labs. But then someone got a hold

01:43:28.079 --> 01:43:30.840
of the employee roster from the time that he

01:43:30.840 --> 01:43:32.220
was working there, and his name's listed there.

01:43:32.420 --> 01:43:34.239
So someone who worked there at the time said,

01:43:34.300 --> 01:43:36.560
I have the employee roster from, you know, 1985

01:43:36.560 --> 01:43:38.840
or whatever it was. And he says, like, sure,

01:43:38.880 --> 01:43:41.159
right here. And they go through the roster and

01:43:41.159 --> 01:43:43.500
it says right there, Robert Lazar. And there's

01:43:43.500 --> 01:43:45.479
also a newspaper article that was printed about

01:43:45.479 --> 01:43:47.840
him being a physicist at Los Alamos Labs and

01:43:47.840 --> 01:43:50.579
that he had made this crazy jet engine powered

01:43:50.579 --> 01:43:53.020
Honda. And so there's him with the Honda and

01:43:53.020 --> 01:43:55.539
he's listed in this lab that he's a physicist

01:43:55.539 --> 01:43:58.859
at this lab. Dude, that shit's so weird. And

01:43:58.859 --> 01:44:01.220
then what that guy just said? Yeah. What Trump

01:44:01.220 --> 01:44:02.699
just said? He's not supposed to say that. It's

01:44:02.699 --> 01:44:06.359
classified. Yeah. What? Why don't you fucking

01:44:06.359 --> 01:44:08.760
tell us? Well, I always wonder if they're going

01:44:08.760 --> 01:44:10.859
to try to do like a Space Force thing where it's

01:44:10.859 --> 01:44:13.239
like WMD is the Middle East. We go to the Middle

01:44:13.239 --> 01:44:14.779
East. Now they're going like, yeah, I think there

01:44:14.779 --> 01:44:16.920
are aliens. And it's like now we get to do like

01:44:16.920 --> 01:44:19.569
Space Force shit. I think if they're aliens,

01:44:19.829 --> 01:44:22.229
you can't do shit to them. I know, but it's also

01:44:22.229 --> 01:44:24.090
like if you want to erect some weird defense

01:44:24.090 --> 01:44:26.069
thing in outer space so we can spy on China,

01:44:26.149 --> 01:44:28.630
it's like, yeah. I think there probably are aliens,

01:44:28.729 --> 01:44:30.989
by the way. I would imagine there's something.

01:44:31.350 --> 01:44:32.909
I would imagine there's something. Because the

01:44:32.909 --> 01:44:34.550
government, whenever they start floating out

01:44:34.550 --> 01:44:37.670
things, I assume there's an agenda. I'm like,

01:44:37.710 --> 01:44:39.270
all right, what are they doing here? 100%. Because

01:44:39.270 --> 01:44:41.130
they just dropped aliens on us out of nowhere,

01:44:41.210 --> 01:44:43.289
and everyone was kind of like, okay. Well, it

01:44:43.289 --> 01:44:46.210
really started around 2017. That's when it started

01:44:46.210 --> 01:44:48.270
to become legitimized. that was when the new

01:44:48.270 --> 01:44:50.829
york times printed this article about it and

01:44:50.829 --> 01:44:53.270
they talked about these pilots and their experiences

01:44:53.270 --> 01:44:55.470
and these videos that they couldn't explain because

01:44:55.470 --> 01:44:57.390
these crafts had no heat signature and they were

01:44:57.390 --> 01:45:00.149
flying in ridiculous speeds over the ocean yeah

01:45:00.149 --> 01:45:02.550
i remember them just coming out with it and then

01:45:02.550 --> 01:45:05.470
like And then they start doing the UAP thing

01:45:05.470 --> 01:45:07.369
and all that stuff, and they're like, yeah, there's

01:45:07.369 --> 01:45:10.170
unidentified crafts and blah, blah, blah. So

01:45:10.170 --> 01:45:11.350
I'm always kind of like, what are they up to?

01:45:11.489 --> 01:45:13.310
Yeah, it's weird. What the hell are these guys

01:45:13.310 --> 01:45:15.010
up to right now? It's hard to know what's real

01:45:15.010 --> 01:45:17.229
and what's not real, but when you start talking

01:45:17.229 --> 01:45:20.130
to pilots and people that have experienced certain

01:45:20.130 --> 01:45:24.310
things, you just go, wow, what is this guy saying?

01:45:24.949 --> 01:45:26.729
Yeah, and again, I don't deny it. I'm always

01:45:26.729 --> 01:45:28.409
kind of like, yeah, you probably did see that

01:45:28.409 --> 01:45:32.600
stuff, but it's like, I don't know. Why is it

01:45:32.600 --> 01:45:36.960
classified? I would imagine it's military stuff

01:45:36.960 --> 01:45:39.079
where they're like, we want to reverse engineer

01:45:39.079 --> 01:45:40.800
and use it for our military if this gets into

01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:42.880
another military's hands, blah, blah, blah. But

01:45:42.880 --> 01:45:44.300
then they're all spying on each other, so I would

01:45:44.300 --> 01:45:46.340
imagine they would know, too. Well, the people

01:45:46.340 --> 01:45:48.500
that I've talked to said that Russia and China

01:45:48.500 --> 01:45:51.239
both have retrieved crashes. Really? Yeah, it's

01:45:51.239 --> 01:45:53.319
not just America that has them. It's other countries

01:45:53.319 --> 01:45:55.800
that have them, too. Damn. Supposedly. This is

01:45:55.800 --> 01:45:59.239
the big story. Supposedly. There's one that's

01:45:59.239 --> 01:46:01.720
so big that they can't move it, so they built

01:46:01.720 --> 01:46:04.100
a building around it. That's supposed to be in

01:46:04.100 --> 01:46:07.000
Korea. What? Supposedly. That's why I heard it's

01:46:07.000 --> 01:46:09.380
in Korea. But yeah, this is the lore, that this

01:46:09.380 --> 01:46:11.800
thing is so big that they couldn't move it, that

01:46:11.800 --> 01:46:14.779
they had to put a building around it. Dude, that's

01:46:14.779 --> 01:46:17.659
wild. That'll be the thing I always think about

01:46:17.659 --> 01:46:19.739
if they come out and say, yeah, there's definitely

01:46:19.739 --> 01:46:23.520
aliens. Like, what do people do? Yeah. This is

01:46:23.520 --> 01:46:25.579
the building, supposedly? Whoa. A giant building

01:46:25.579 --> 01:46:27.539
in South Korea is off mid -sided as a potential

01:46:27.539 --> 01:46:32.739
UFO storage facility. Can you imagine if they

01:46:32.739 --> 01:46:35.199
just built it the shape of a UFO? That kind of

01:46:35.199 --> 01:46:36.960
looks like it, honestly. That's so crazy. Dude,

01:46:37.039 --> 01:46:39.079
do a square building. What's in that fucking

01:46:39.079 --> 01:46:42.800
building? I don't know. Imagine if that's real.

01:46:43.779 --> 01:46:47.380
Yeah, what is this? Why are they... Why do they

01:46:47.380 --> 01:46:50.079
think this? Well, I would imagine that place

01:46:50.079 --> 01:46:53.539
would have to be heavily guarded. Yeah. It was

01:46:53.539 --> 01:46:57.319
just a gate. Who's that guy? Eric Burleson insisted

01:46:57.319 --> 01:46:59.460
on the existence of aliens but admitted he has

01:46:59.460 --> 01:47:01.680
no definitive proof. Okay. I was talking to that

01:47:01.680 --> 01:47:03.300
video. I showed you the other day. He said he

01:47:03.300 --> 01:47:05.739
was going to go look at these places. He was

01:47:05.739 --> 01:47:08.140
going to go look in Korea? He mentioned he was

01:47:08.140 --> 01:47:09.920
going to go look at the underground one. He didn't

01:47:09.920 --> 01:47:11.600
say where it was. Oh, this is the congressman.

01:47:11.640 --> 01:47:14.199
The congressman's claim. So scroll down there

01:47:14.199 --> 01:47:17.210
a little lower. So here is US congressman has

01:47:17.210 --> 01:47:19.649
claimed classified facility housing a UFO is

01:47:19.649 --> 01:47:21.729
hiding in plain sight Well, that's kind of hiding

01:47:21.729 --> 01:47:23.609
in plain sight. They literally made a little

01:47:23.609 --> 01:47:26.369
antenna on the top just like this sport model

01:47:26.369 --> 01:47:28.149
Look at this sport model. It has that intent

01:47:28.149 --> 01:47:31.170
on the top. I Don't know what to believe man,

01:47:31.289 --> 01:47:35.010
but I know I want to believe 270 feet in diameter.

01:47:35.109 --> 01:47:39.220
Holy shit. Yeah, it's fucking as insane Yeah,

01:47:39.220 --> 01:47:41.260
especially now with all the deepfake stuff that's

01:47:41.260 --> 01:47:43.119
going to come out. The next election will be

01:47:43.119 --> 01:47:44.979
in deepfake territory. Everyone will be like,

01:47:45.079 --> 01:47:46.680
you were on the Epstein list. You were on it.

01:47:46.680 --> 01:47:49.659
No, you were. I'm like, I'm just, you know. You

01:47:49.659 --> 01:47:51.239
could have people saying all kinds of things

01:47:51.239 --> 01:47:53.020
that they've never said. Or being like, I didn't

01:47:53.020 --> 01:47:54.560
do that. Hanging out with people that never hung

01:47:54.560 --> 01:47:56.159
out. I mean, there was all these photos that

01:47:56.159 --> 01:47:57.920
were fake of Epstein with a bunch of different

01:47:57.920 --> 01:48:00.159
people. Oh, yeah. No, there was a completely

01:48:00.159 --> 01:48:02.659
fake video people were sharing. Yeah. It's like,

01:48:02.739 --> 01:48:04.560
you know, so I don't know. By that time, it's

01:48:04.560 --> 01:48:07.180
like. I've been trying to just pull back completely

01:48:07.180 --> 01:48:09.239
from like the news and I'm like, you know. Hey,

01:48:09.260 --> 01:48:12.180
what is the official story of the Colbert show

01:48:12.180 --> 01:48:15.359
where they had to air that Tallarico interview

01:48:15.359 --> 01:48:20.859
on YouTube? Because I'm hearing two versions.

01:48:21.000 --> 01:48:23.819
I'm hearing one version is that CBS wouldn't

01:48:23.819 --> 01:48:27.199
let them air it because like Trump. was involved

01:48:27.199 --> 01:48:29.340
in the government, was involved somehow or another

01:48:29.340 --> 01:48:31.180
because they're worried about this Tallarico

01:48:31.180 --> 01:48:33.859
guy, this very charismatic guy in Texas that

01:48:33.859 --> 01:48:35.739
I really like. Very nice guy. I'm on the show.

01:48:36.680 --> 01:48:38.979
Brian Simpson told me about him. And then the

01:48:38.979 --> 01:48:42.439
other thing that I'm hearing is, no, with FCC

01:48:42.439 --> 01:48:47.060
equal time rules, if he had Tallarico on, he

01:48:47.060 --> 01:48:49.039
would also have to have Tallarico's opponent,

01:48:49.220 --> 01:48:51.680
which is, I think, Jasmine Crockett. Is that

01:48:51.680 --> 01:48:54.359
true? I don't even know. Whoever his opponent

01:48:54.359 --> 01:48:57.880
is. So I think there's rules like that for the

01:48:57.880 --> 01:49:00.720
FCC that don't exist for podcasts. You know what

01:49:00.720 --> 01:49:02.119
I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. They have to balance

01:49:02.119 --> 01:49:04.699
it. Yeah. Like if you have this person on that's

01:49:04.699 --> 01:49:06.880
running for office, you also have to have someone

01:49:06.880 --> 01:49:09.199
that is opposing them. Okay. They have to have

01:49:09.199 --> 01:49:10.319
equal time. I didn't know they had that. Is that

01:49:10.319 --> 01:49:15.319
true? So he was on Colbert. Whose show was he

01:49:15.319 --> 01:49:17.739
on? Yeah. Stephen Colbert show. Okay. And so

01:49:17.739 --> 01:49:21.779
they were framing it like it was the government

01:49:21.779 --> 01:49:23.680
was censoring this guy because they're worried.

01:49:23.760 --> 01:49:25.239
And he was saying they're worried that they're

01:49:25.239 --> 01:49:27.479
going to flip Texas. That's what he was saying.

01:49:27.960 --> 01:49:31.960
I don't know if that's true, though, because

01:49:31.960 --> 01:49:35.399
I'm. So it's the difference. Honestly, this sounds

01:49:35.399 --> 01:49:38.199
like it's Colbert saying one thing. CBS lawyers

01:49:38.199 --> 01:49:40.739
are saying a different thing. Okay. What are

01:49:40.739 --> 01:49:42.920
CBS lawyers saying? They're saying that it's

01:49:42.920 --> 01:49:47.279
the FCC thing. Colbert says, quote. Here they

01:49:47.279 --> 01:49:49.180
know damn well every word of my script was approved

01:49:49.180 --> 01:49:51.819
by CBS lawyers who for the record approve every

01:49:51.819 --> 01:49:53.579
script that goes on Yeah, but it's not about

01:49:53.579 --> 01:49:56.260
the script It's about the humans the people that

01:49:56.260 --> 01:49:58.859
are on if the people are yeah here It is the

01:49:58.859 --> 01:50:01.340
show provided legal guidance that the broadcast

01:50:01.340 --> 01:50:04.460
could trigger the FCC equal time rule for two

01:50:04.460 --> 01:50:08.180
other candidates including rep Jasmine Crockett

01:50:08.810 --> 01:50:11.430
and presented options for how equal time for

01:50:11.430 --> 01:50:14.270
other candidates could be fulfilled. So you would

01:50:14.270 --> 01:50:17.710
have to have equal time. Colbert scoffed at the

01:50:17.710 --> 01:50:21.350
statement during Tuesday's show. They know damn

01:50:21.350 --> 01:50:22.909
well every word of my script, but it doesn't

01:50:22.909 --> 01:50:25.109
have anything to do with the script. Said they

01:50:25.109 --> 01:50:27.149
don't know damn well that every word of my script

01:50:27.149 --> 01:50:29.149
last night was approved by CBS lawyers who, for

01:50:29.149 --> 01:50:31.270
the record, approved every script that goes on

01:50:31.270 --> 01:50:33.869
the air. Well, that's just diverting because

01:50:33.869 --> 01:50:37.760
that's not what the subject is. Okay. I got called

01:50:37.760 --> 01:50:39.960
backstage to get more notes from these lawyers,

01:50:40.079 --> 01:50:42.199
something that had never, ever happened before.

01:50:42.239 --> 01:50:44.739
They told us the language they wanted me to use

01:50:44.739 --> 01:50:47.819
to describe that equal time exception, and I

01:50:47.819 --> 01:50:50.500
used that language, Colbert said, so I don't

01:50:50.500 --> 01:50:53.159
know what this is about. He went on to say he

01:50:53.159 --> 01:50:55.760
wasn't mad at the network and does not want an

01:50:55.760 --> 01:50:57.840
adversarial relationship. Well, he's on his way

01:50:57.840 --> 01:50:59.899
out anyway. Yeah, I didn't know he still was

01:50:59.899 --> 01:51:01.579
doing a show. Yeah, he's doing it, I think, until

01:51:01.579 --> 01:51:04.689
like... April or May or something. Come on, you're

01:51:04.689 --> 01:51:06.529
paramount. No, no, no, you're more than that.

01:51:06.630 --> 01:51:09.470
You're paramount plus, he cracked. And for the

01:51:09.470 --> 01:51:11.350
lawyers to release this statement without even

01:51:11.350 --> 01:51:13.729
talking to me is really surprising. The host

01:51:13.729 --> 01:51:15.930
also noted there's been a long, very famous exception

01:51:15.930 --> 01:51:19.430
to the equal time rule, and that exception included

01:51:19.430 --> 01:51:23.270
talk shows, interviews with politicians. Oh,

01:51:23.470 --> 01:51:27.020
interesting. So that makes it interesting. We

01:51:27.020 --> 01:51:28.579
looked. We couldn't find one example of this

01:51:28.579 --> 01:51:30.739
rule being enforced for any talk show interview,

01:51:30.960 --> 01:51:34.020
not only for my entire late night career, but

01:51:34.020 --> 01:51:36.039
for anyone's late night career going back to

01:51:36.039 --> 01:51:39.060
the 1960s, he said. Colbert said that Carr has

01:51:39.060 --> 01:51:44.720
not gotten rid of that exception for talk show

01:51:44.720 --> 01:51:52.960
hosts yet. Maybe CBS was worried that this is

01:51:52.960 --> 01:51:56.170
a rule and that the government. could crack down

01:51:56.170 --> 01:51:58.510
on them, although no one has ever done that in

01:51:58.510 --> 01:52:01.470
the past. So this is a different kind of government,

01:52:01.590 --> 01:52:05.310
right? Obviously. It's a very adversarial relationship,

01:52:05.710 --> 01:52:09.489
CBS, or at least the Colbert Show has already

01:52:09.489 --> 01:52:12.350
with Trump. Yeah. What are they worried about?

01:52:12.489 --> 01:52:15.270
Who is, what party is Tallarico? He's a Democrat.

01:52:15.449 --> 01:52:17.829
Democrat. And what's Crockett? She's a Democrat

01:52:17.829 --> 01:52:19.350
as well. She's a Democrat too. So what is like,

01:52:19.489 --> 01:52:20.989
oh, they're running against each other. Exactly.

01:52:21.820 --> 01:52:24.399
Exactly. Yeah. OK. Tallarico is the white guy.

01:52:24.859 --> 01:52:27.439
He's a guy. His story is very interesting. He

01:52:27.439 --> 01:52:30.899
was a school teacher. OK. And his story was that

01:52:30.899 --> 01:52:32.760
he had this kid that was very troubled in his

01:52:32.760 --> 01:52:34.779
class. But the kid was receiving counseling and

01:52:34.779 --> 01:52:36.739
was starting to get better. Then budgets got

01:52:36.739 --> 01:52:38.899
cut. And when budgets got cut, they cut off the

01:52:38.899 --> 01:52:41.210
counseling. And this kid started. fucking off

01:52:41.210 --> 01:52:43.609
and, you know, acting out and really falling

01:52:43.609 --> 01:52:45.970
apart. And he wound up getting kicked out of

01:52:45.970 --> 01:52:48.430
school. And it really hurt him because he was

01:52:48.430 --> 01:52:50.329
like, this kid had, like, real potential. And

01:52:50.329 --> 01:52:53.170
he is a teacher, you know? Yeah. And so then

01:52:53.170 --> 01:52:56.250
he decided to run for office and to try to remedy

01:52:56.250 --> 01:52:58.489
these problems. Got you. So didn't he just get,

01:52:58.550 --> 01:53:00.170
like, jammed up with something now? Or, like,

01:53:00.189 --> 01:53:02.729
someone claimed they were in his office and that

01:53:02.729 --> 01:53:04.510
he said something kind of, like, disparaging

01:53:04.510 --> 01:53:07.710
about, like, a black guy? Tallarico? He's a very

01:53:07.710 --> 01:53:11.039
mild -mannered looking guy, right? Yeah. I don't

01:53:11.039 --> 01:53:12.920
know if I'm getting my politicians... See, man,

01:53:13.039 --> 01:53:15.840
when people are running against people, stories

01:53:15.840 --> 01:53:19.319
start a -flying. But it was about another politician.

01:53:19.380 --> 01:53:21.020
All he said was, like, I didn't know I was going

01:53:21.020 --> 01:53:23.659
up against, you know, this, like, I don't know,

01:53:23.739 --> 01:53:25.720
I guess, like, whatever word he used, like, electrifying

01:53:25.720 --> 01:53:27.300
black... I thought I was going up against a mediocre

01:53:27.300 --> 01:53:31.899
black guy. That was it. Some lady claimed that

01:53:31.899 --> 01:53:34.560
he called Colin Allred a mediocre black man.

01:53:34.909 --> 01:53:37.050
Faced allegations that he referred to his opponent

01:53:37.050 --> 01:53:40.470
Colin Allred as a mediocre black man during a

01:53:40.470 --> 01:53:43.310
private conversation with an influencer. An influencer?

01:53:43.649 --> 01:53:47.109
Yeah. A comment Rep Tallarico has denied. The

01:53:47.109 --> 01:53:49.109
allegation caused significant backlash with All

01:53:49.109 --> 01:53:50.970
Red calling for supporters to vote for another

01:53:50.970 --> 01:53:54.729
candidate, Jasmine Crockett. Yeah, so it's like...

01:53:54.729 --> 01:53:57.289
Yeah, that's a way to get people to not vote

01:53:57.289 --> 01:53:59.869
for that guy. Yeah, it kind of sucks. An influencer

01:53:59.869 --> 01:54:02.270
said it? An influencer was like, I worked in

01:54:02.270 --> 01:54:04.310
his campaign, and he was like, if I'd known I

01:54:04.310 --> 01:54:06.430
was going up against this strong black woman,

01:54:06.489 --> 01:54:07.609
I wouldn't have known. I thought I was running

01:54:07.609 --> 01:54:10.430
against a mediocre black man. And then the guy

01:54:10.430 --> 01:54:12.670
responded being like, nothing about me is mediocre.

01:54:12.949 --> 01:54:14.829
You know, they kind of had it. Into what the

01:54:14.829 --> 01:54:17.590
penalty is for the equal time rule. And I don't

01:54:17.590 --> 01:54:21.189
really see one. Poor Tallarico. Tallarico's having

01:54:21.189 --> 01:54:22.689
a tough time. Especially if it sounds like he's

01:54:22.689 --> 01:54:25.229
a sweet guy who's trying to help kids out. His

01:54:25.229 --> 01:54:26.850
name's too close to the guy that killed Epstein.

01:54:28.069 --> 01:54:31.930
What was his name? Taglioni. Taglioni, Tallarico.

01:54:34.430 --> 01:54:39.090
I keep confusing them. When I say the killer's

01:54:39.090 --> 01:54:42.159
name, that cop. I keep saying I think his name

01:54:42.159 --> 01:54:46.579
is Tagliato - no, Tallarica? No, shit. It's going

01:54:46.579 --> 01:54:48.279
to catch up to him. He's like, I think this guy

01:54:48.279 --> 01:54:51.630
killed Epstein, actually. Yeah. The thing is,

01:54:51.710 --> 01:54:54.409
like, an influencer said, like, what does that

01:54:54.409 --> 01:54:58.050
mean? Yeah, I mean, look, yeah, it's pretty genius,

01:54:58.069 --> 01:54:59.670
though. If you want to do dirty politics, you

01:54:59.670 --> 01:55:01.310
can just be like... But what if he said, I thought

01:55:01.310 --> 01:55:03.770
I was going up against this mediocre guy, and

01:55:03.770 --> 01:55:05.510
now I'm going up against this powerful black

01:55:05.510 --> 01:55:08.569
lady? It's not a bad... But then he was like,

01:55:08.670 --> 01:55:09.729
you know, I'd be like, that makes sense. But

01:55:09.729 --> 01:55:11.430
he is a black man, so if you're saying mediocre

01:55:11.430 --> 01:55:13.510
guy and it happens to be a black man, and then

01:55:13.510 --> 01:55:16.409
that person says, he said mediocre black man,

01:55:16.529 --> 01:55:20.859
like... Yeah, it's not even that bad of a thing

01:55:20.859 --> 01:55:22.420
to say. All you'd have to do is just not say

01:55:22.420 --> 01:55:24.340
the black part, and you'd be like, oh, he's just

01:55:24.340 --> 01:55:25.760
talking about a politician. I know. The guy's

01:55:25.760 --> 01:55:28.140
mediocre. I know. Happens to be black, but he's

01:55:28.140 --> 01:55:30.439
mediocre. But as soon as you describe him accurately.

01:55:30.920 --> 01:55:32.880
Yeah, you're fried. You're fried. Especially

01:55:32.880 --> 01:55:34.800
if you're a Dem, man. If you're Dem, you cannot

01:55:34.800 --> 01:55:38.479
be going. No. Yeah. He's a religious guy, too,

01:55:38.520 --> 01:55:41.119
which is interesting, but also opposes putting

01:55:41.119 --> 01:55:44.420
the Ten Commandments in schools. Okay. That's

01:55:44.420 --> 01:55:45.460
fair. Yeah, he said, I think it's going to push

01:55:45.460 --> 01:55:47.100
people away from Christianity. He had a very.

01:55:47.690 --> 01:55:50.409
Well thought out point about it. Yeah, we had

01:55:50.409 --> 01:55:51.829
a really good conversation So you don't need

01:55:51.829 --> 01:55:53.829
to be in school and be like thou shall not commit

01:55:53.829 --> 01:55:55.590
adultery. It's like yeah, dude They're not gonna

01:55:55.590 --> 01:55:57.850
fuck your wife like well, it's not that it's

01:55:57.850 --> 01:56:00.390
you're pushing this religious rule these religious

01:56:00.390 --> 01:56:03.250
rules on people and it's one religion It's like

01:56:03.250 --> 01:56:05.010
what about people that are Buddhist? What about

01:56:05.010 --> 01:56:06.789
people that are Muslims? What about people that

01:56:06.789 --> 01:56:08.909
are more hands? What about you can go down the

01:56:08.909 --> 01:56:11.010
list forever and ever and ever Hindus like what

01:56:11.010 --> 01:56:13.449
come on? Yeah, and it's also you can you know,

01:56:13.470 --> 01:56:16.079
you can kind of summarize it up and like, just

01:56:16.079 --> 01:56:18.079
be nice. You know, I, I worked in a high school

01:56:18.079 --> 01:56:20.220
for a while. I was a counselor. Oh really? Yeah.

01:56:20.300 --> 01:56:22.260
I was like a, I went to school for social work

01:56:22.260 --> 01:56:24.399
for a while. So like what kind of counseling

01:56:24.399 --> 01:56:26.140
would you do? Just like therapy. I would, there

01:56:26.140 --> 01:56:28.140
was, it was, it was a really cool way. They did.

01:56:28.159 --> 01:56:29.420
It was like, it was, you know, it was a charter

01:56:29.420 --> 01:56:31.960
school and I was there as an intern because I

01:56:31.960 --> 01:56:33.500
was, I was getting my master's in social work.

01:56:33.539 --> 01:56:35.720
So they would have interns there as therapists

01:56:35.720 --> 01:56:38.750
for the. school kids basically so that the kids

01:56:38.750 --> 01:56:41.630
could get free therapy at school if they're exhibiting

01:56:41.630 --> 01:56:44.090
kind of problems or whatever so it was like i

01:56:44.090 --> 01:56:45.649
worked at a like it was like an inner city school

01:56:45.649 --> 01:56:47.090
in philly and i would just go there and chill

01:56:47.090 --> 01:56:48.510
in an office and they were just like i'd have

01:56:48.510 --> 01:56:49.989
to get kids in class and they would just come

01:56:49.989 --> 01:56:52.829
we like talk a couple times a week and then you

01:56:52.829 --> 01:56:54.170
could bring their family in if they if they're

01:56:54.170 --> 01:56:55.310
like they have problems at home you can be like

01:56:55.310 --> 01:56:56.729
all right let's call the mom and dad this is

01:56:56.729 --> 01:56:58.270
what this guy was talking about this is what

01:56:58.270 --> 01:57:00.029
talarico was talking about what they cut funding

01:57:00.029 --> 01:57:02.149
for yeah it's a shame because this this school

01:57:02.149 --> 01:57:04.670
was like they kind of like ran at them i guess

01:57:04.670 --> 01:57:07.770
they're getting funded by the But the way they

01:57:07.770 --> 01:57:09.550
got around it was just using interns. So it wasn't

01:57:09.550 --> 01:57:11.810
like, you know, you're not getting like the most

01:57:11.810 --> 01:57:13.390
experienced people in the world. But you're getting

01:57:13.390 --> 01:57:15.630
some help. Getting something, man. Well, this

01:57:15.630 --> 01:57:18.350
kid that he was talking about, he had this very

01:57:18.350 --> 01:57:20.350
detailed story about this kid who was like a

01:57:20.350 --> 01:57:23.090
good kid, just came from a fucked up house. And

01:57:23.090 --> 01:57:25.489
he wanted, and these people around him were the

01:57:25.489 --> 01:57:27.930
only positive influences that he had ever had.

01:57:28.029 --> 01:57:29.909
And he was starting to get better. Yeah. And

01:57:29.909 --> 01:57:31.729
then they took it away and he starts falling

01:57:31.729 --> 01:57:35.180
apart. Yeah. And dude, it's also like. You forget,

01:57:35.520 --> 01:57:37.420
like, you know, because for kids, especially

01:57:37.420 --> 01:57:39.880
when you're in a city and kids are telling you

01:57:39.880 --> 01:57:43.279
their lives, it's fucking heartbreaking. It is.

01:57:43.399 --> 01:57:46.060
Their day -to -day setup, you'd be like, fucking

01:57:46.060 --> 01:57:47.859
Christ, man. And then they're just looking at

01:57:47.859 --> 01:57:49.739
you like, what do I do? And I'm like, you've

01:57:49.739 --> 01:57:51.960
got to hang in there. There's literally nothing

01:57:51.960 --> 01:57:53.619
I can tell you to do. You've got to hang in there.

01:57:53.739 --> 01:57:56.619
Right. It was sad, but it was one of my favorite.

01:57:56.819 --> 01:57:58.579
If I didn't do stand -up, I would probably do

01:57:58.579 --> 01:58:01.399
that for a job. I loved it. It was fun. Well,

01:58:01.399 --> 01:58:03.439
it sounds very rewarding, right? Yeah. You're

01:58:03.439 --> 01:58:05.319
actually helping people. Yeah. And you have to,

01:58:05.340 --> 01:58:06.819
it's just like intense. You're just sitting there

01:58:06.819 --> 01:58:08.699
in a room with someone and it's like everything

01:58:08.699 --> 01:58:10.460
they're saying, there's no like guidance. You

01:58:10.460 --> 01:58:11.899
have to just be like, all right, well like maybe

01:58:11.899 --> 01:58:13.840
this, maybe that. And it's like a, I don't know.

01:58:13.880 --> 01:58:15.399
I felt really, I always liked it a lot. It was

01:58:15.399 --> 01:58:18.199
pretty cool. But then you would like, you go

01:58:18.199 --> 01:58:20.840
back to the school and I, it's so funny. I went

01:58:20.840 --> 01:58:22.720
to social work school just because I was doing

01:58:22.720 --> 01:58:24.420
standup. I was kind of kicking around. I was

01:58:24.420 --> 01:58:25.779
like, yeah, I was doing the podcast, but it was

01:58:25.779 --> 01:58:28.079
like slow going. And I remember watching Jordan

01:58:28.079 --> 01:58:29.859
Peterson be like, the schools are crazy right

01:58:29.859 --> 01:58:32.060
now. Now part of me, like I always, I wanted

01:58:32.060 --> 01:58:33.640
to be a therapist, but I remember being like

01:58:33.640 --> 01:58:35.939
kind of curious, like I wonder how bad they are.

01:58:36.079 --> 01:58:38.180
And I went to school, I went to my master's program

01:58:38.180 --> 01:58:40.800
in social work, which was like ground zero for

01:58:40.800 --> 01:58:42.560
all like the stuff he was talking about. And

01:58:42.560 --> 01:58:44.199
he was, dude, it was, it was literally like worse

01:58:44.199 --> 01:58:46.460
than he made it out to be. What was it like?

01:58:46.739 --> 01:58:48.840
It was insane, dude. It was literally like, you

01:58:48.840 --> 01:58:51.000
know, I went to school again to be a therapist,

01:58:51.020 --> 01:58:53.800
but like social work, you can be a therapist

01:58:53.800 --> 01:58:55.659
faster than if you go to school for psychology

01:58:55.659 --> 01:58:57.699
because you just like don't need any of the science

01:58:57.699 --> 01:58:59.609
really. You just study kind of like the theory

01:58:59.609 --> 01:59:01.430
and, you know, whatever. So you can be a therapist

01:59:01.430 --> 01:59:03.890
quicker. It's like a shortcut kind of. But it

01:59:03.890 --> 01:59:06.409
would be like, it was just, you'd be in a room

01:59:06.409 --> 01:59:08.390
with like 13 other people and they would like,

01:59:08.430 --> 01:59:11.770
you know, you talk about whatever it'd be. Like,

01:59:11.810 --> 01:59:13.510
let's talk about like clinical approaches here

01:59:13.510 --> 01:59:15.229
and there. And it would just right away turn

01:59:15.229 --> 01:59:18.029
into like race, gender, who's the most oppressed,

01:59:18.289 --> 01:59:20.170
do this. And it was just like, people would tell

01:59:20.170 --> 01:59:22.250
stories. Like one time this guy said this to

01:59:22.250 --> 01:59:23.409
me and everyone was like, I can't believe that

01:59:23.409 --> 01:59:25.409
fucking guy said that. It was literally like

01:59:25.409 --> 01:59:28.779
nothing. He paid 60 grand. It was like, like

01:59:28.779 --> 01:59:31.039
I would be terrified if I was getting therapy.

01:59:31.739 --> 01:59:33.859
And again, it's like not everybody, but there's

01:59:33.859 --> 01:59:36.880
a lot of very, people would cry in class. So

01:59:36.880 --> 01:59:38.960
you'd be like talking and like people would just

01:59:38.960 --> 01:59:40.960
start bursting out in tears. Like, I don't feel

01:59:40.960 --> 01:59:43.920
safe. It was insane. And I'm like, dude, you're

01:59:43.920 --> 01:59:45.479
going to be talking to people who are like homeless.

01:59:45.920 --> 01:59:48.520
How are you going to help them? And it was all

01:59:48.520 --> 01:59:50.819
female. It was mostly female dominated. It was

01:59:50.819 --> 01:59:53.000
like me and three or four other guys. And then

01:59:53.000 --> 01:59:54.380
like people would come in because you'd bring

01:59:54.380 --> 01:59:56.079
your case files in and be like, here's something

01:59:56.079 --> 01:59:57.539
I'm dealing with. Let me get some, you know,

01:59:57.560 --> 01:59:59.640
what do you think about this? I remember this

01:59:59.640 --> 02:00:01.720
guy was dealing with this like Vietnam vet who

02:00:01.720 --> 02:00:03.199
like, you know, had like lived in Philly his

02:00:03.199 --> 02:00:05.239
whole life. And he was like, I was just shocked

02:00:05.239 --> 02:00:06.859
the way he talked about women. And it's like,

02:00:07.000 --> 02:00:09.439
bro, you're dirty macking your client, dude,

02:00:09.520 --> 02:00:11.399
for these chicks. I'm like, come on, man. It

02:00:11.399 --> 02:00:12.600
was just kind of weird. It was like, did you

02:00:12.600 --> 02:00:14.579
know? He's a fucking 70 -year -old dude. He's

02:00:14.579 --> 02:00:16.359
lived in Philly his whole life. He probably stabbed

02:00:16.359 --> 02:00:18.880
Charlie in a tunnel somewhere. Yeah, and he was

02:00:18.880 --> 02:00:20.819
just very crude about women. It's like, come

02:00:20.819 --> 02:00:23.039
on, man. Of course this guy is. Don't throw him

02:00:23.039 --> 02:00:24.140
under the fucking bus. You're supposed to be

02:00:24.140 --> 02:00:25.560
helping. That was my whole point. It was like,

02:00:25.579 --> 02:00:27.579
if you're doing therapy with people, it's like,

02:00:27.640 --> 02:00:30.520
you know, life is just so hard and so complex.

02:00:30.760 --> 02:00:32.850
And if you're going to be like... This doesn't

02:00:32.850 --> 02:00:35.069
sit with my party politics. I was like, you guys

02:00:35.069 --> 02:00:36.770
got to drop the political shit, man. And just

02:00:36.770 --> 02:00:38.409
like meet these people where they're at. Well,

02:00:38.470 --> 02:00:40.029
there's so many guys out there that just want

02:00:40.029 --> 02:00:43.109
brownie points. That's what I, and dude, he's

02:00:43.109 --> 02:00:44.829
exactly what it was. I was like, dude, I know

02:00:44.829 --> 02:00:46.630
what you're doing right now. You're dirty macking

02:00:46.630 --> 02:00:49.189
this guy. So you can be like, personally, I was

02:00:49.189 --> 02:00:52.789
offended. I'm like, dude, I was the worst. I

02:00:52.789 --> 02:00:55.109
could, I couldn't stand it at all. These guys

02:00:55.109 --> 02:00:57.069
are the worst. Then they try to kick me out of

02:00:57.069 --> 02:00:59.539
the school. Because when Shane got in trouble

02:00:59.539 --> 02:01:02.819
for SNL, my name popped up in the byline because

02:01:02.819 --> 02:01:05.260
they had no clue. It was like a double life.

02:01:05.340 --> 02:01:08.920
I would go to social work school because I just

02:01:08.920 --> 02:01:10.380
took out loans. I'm like, we'll just see what,

02:01:10.420 --> 02:01:11.960
you know, if the podcast works, I'll just pay

02:01:11.960 --> 02:01:13.340
off the loans. If it doesn't, I'll have a degree.

02:01:14.020 --> 02:01:17.300
And so I had been, it had been pretty contentious

02:01:17.300 --> 02:01:19.479
because my plan was like, dude, just go keep

02:01:19.479 --> 02:01:22.100
it cool. Don't say anything. And then, dude,

02:01:22.140 --> 02:01:23.880
you'd be in these classrooms. And like, I remember

02:01:23.880 --> 02:01:26.239
the one time this lady and they're all like young.

02:01:26.439 --> 02:01:28.159
They're right out of college. They come out and

02:01:28.159 --> 02:01:30.260
they'd be like, well, and I believe this is like

02:01:30.260 --> 02:01:33.579
unprompted. She was like, well, if she was like,

02:01:33.600 --> 02:01:35.619
I would never personally call the cops on a black

02:01:35.619 --> 02:01:38.319
person ever. And I'm just sitting in the back

02:01:38.319 --> 02:01:39.979
of the room, and I'm like, no one's going to

02:01:39.979 --> 02:01:41.460
say this is the craziest thing. And I'm like,

02:01:41.479 --> 02:01:43.539
what if he was beating a woman? And she was like,

02:01:43.579 --> 02:01:47.779
I mean, like, and, like, it was just that non

02:01:47.779 --> 02:01:50.279
-fucking -stop. And I couldn't help it, so I

02:01:50.279 --> 02:01:51.960
would start saying stuff. The room would go into

02:01:51.960 --> 02:01:54.699
chaos. So, like, I literally couldn't bite my

02:01:54.699 --> 02:01:58.239
tongue. And then eventually they found—once they—they

02:01:58.239 --> 02:01:59.779
already kind of had it out for me. And once that

02:01:59.779 --> 02:02:01.560
news came out about the podcast, they were like,

02:02:01.640 --> 02:02:04.909
we got him dead to rights. So then they— They

02:02:04.909 --> 02:02:07.189
like the student council, like they, all of them,

02:02:07.189 --> 02:02:08.909
they didn't like me at all. They all kind of

02:02:08.909 --> 02:02:12.350
did a motion to get me kicked out. And so the

02:02:12.350 --> 02:02:14.189
teacher came or like, you know, the Dean or whatever,

02:02:14.270 --> 02:02:15.930
who actually was nice. I liked her a lot. She

02:02:15.930 --> 02:02:17.270
was like, I had a meeting with her and she was

02:02:17.270 --> 02:02:19.930
like, yeah, these people feel unsafe, blah, blah,

02:02:19.970 --> 02:02:22.189
blah. So I had to do it. And it was like unsafe

02:02:22.189 --> 02:02:23.489
or they just don't, you know, they don't like

02:02:23.489 --> 02:02:25.689
what they're hearing. But like they, I had a

02:02:25.689 --> 02:02:28.449
meeting with like the board basically, which

02:02:28.449 --> 02:02:30.289
you ever like fantasize about getting like defending

02:02:30.289 --> 02:02:32.829
yourself in court. yeah i got to do that and

02:02:32.829 --> 02:02:34.329
i got to have like a you know we got to like

02:02:34.329 --> 02:02:37.250
debate about whether or not i actually violated

02:02:37.250 --> 02:02:39.130
the code of ethics and it was like kind of this

02:02:39.130 --> 02:02:41.449
gray area so it was like it was awesome i recorded

02:02:41.449 --> 02:02:43.989
it on my phone wow it's like an hour long it's

02:02:43.989 --> 02:02:45.510
i never listened to it again but it was like

02:02:45.510 --> 02:02:47.409
because i was like just in case they jam me up

02:02:47.409 --> 02:02:50.050
the lady was like you know like if what would

02:02:50.050 --> 02:02:52.130
you do if we kicked you out and i was like dude

02:02:52.130 --> 02:02:55.100
like I'll make the most of that for sure. Like,

02:02:55.140 --> 02:02:56.800
I wouldn't want to do it, but I would just see

02:02:56.800 --> 02:02:58.479
you guys, man. Like, you can't kick me out. I'm

02:02:58.479 --> 02:02:59.960
already, like, invested. You know, blah, blah,

02:03:00.020 --> 02:03:02.119
blah. And then COVID happened, so, like, they

02:03:02.119 --> 02:03:03.779
were just hushed at all. I just got to finish

02:03:03.779 --> 02:03:06.619
online class. Yeah, they tried to give me the

02:03:06.619 --> 02:03:09.300
boot, and I remember the day. Did they have a

02:03:09.300 --> 02:03:11.180
specific thing they were upset about? Was it

02:03:11.180 --> 02:03:13.020
your association with Shane? It was just that

02:03:13.020 --> 02:03:15.180
clip, that Chinatown clip came out. Oh, wow.

02:03:15.239 --> 02:03:16.899
And they just saw us. I'm sure they looked into

02:03:16.899 --> 02:03:18.579
other stuff, but they were like, he's making

02:03:18.579 --> 02:03:20.979
this place unsafe. We're not safe here. And I

02:03:20.979 --> 02:03:23.960
was like, shut up. Yeah, podcasters and academia.

02:03:24.500 --> 02:03:26.859
It was, dude. Academia, that does not go together.

02:03:27.199 --> 02:03:30.000
Also, dude, I thought having a master's, I was

02:03:30.000 --> 02:03:31.800
going to be around geniuses. It's like, they're

02:03:31.800 --> 02:03:34.340
not that smart. You go to a place with masters

02:03:34.340 --> 02:03:36.600
and PhDs, half of them don't even read anything.

02:03:37.229 --> 02:03:38.770
You talk about a book doc, I never heard of that.

02:03:38.989 --> 02:03:41.210
And then they'd show you, like, Netflix. Like,

02:03:41.270 --> 02:03:43.409
bro, I'm paying 60 grand for this. You're hitting

02:03:43.409 --> 02:03:45.430
me with a Netflix doc? It's like, this is eight

02:03:45.430 --> 02:03:47.510
bucks a month. They were showing you Netflix

02:03:47.510 --> 02:03:50.130
docs in class? Yeah. We watched a Netflix doc,

02:03:50.189 --> 02:03:51.810
one of the classes. We watched, like, the 13th

02:03:51.810 --> 02:03:53.850
Amendment. And I was like, I saw this already.

02:03:54.329 --> 02:03:57.649
What the fuck, man? Like, it's the, that, like,

02:03:57.869 --> 02:03:59.630
I mean, I remember thinking, like, damn, everyone

02:03:59.630 --> 02:04:01.390
was on Peterson's ass about this. He was totally

02:04:01.390 --> 02:04:04.310
right. Liberal arts colleges were like, it was.

02:04:05.020 --> 02:04:07.260
I couldn't have thought of a bigger waste of

02:04:07.260 --> 02:04:09.140
money in terms of like bang for buck and like

02:04:09.140 --> 02:04:11.520
what did I actually learn? Well, I remember when

02:04:11.520 --> 02:04:13.539
we were talking about all the madness that was

02:04:13.539 --> 02:04:15.939
going on in schools and people like, why do you

02:04:15.939 --> 02:04:17.739
care about this? This is happening in college.

02:04:17.779 --> 02:04:20.039
I'm like. They're going to eventually graduate

02:04:20.039 --> 02:04:22.800
and they're going to have this ideology and they're

02:04:22.800 --> 02:04:24.239
going to get into corporations. They're going

02:04:24.239 --> 02:04:26.699
to get into business. They're going to carry

02:04:26.699 --> 02:04:29.199
this with them and try to enforce these crazy

02:04:29.199 --> 02:04:31.699
rules. Or, you know, somebody like your kids

02:04:31.699 --> 02:04:33.800
having problems and you go to a therapist and

02:04:33.800 --> 02:04:35.739
they're just like psycho. Like there was we were

02:04:35.739 --> 02:04:38.020
talking about modalities of therapy. One of them,

02:04:38.060 --> 02:04:39.659
someone floated and the teacher was like, oh,

02:04:39.699 --> 02:04:42.069
yeah, for sure. It was called like – I don't

02:04:42.069 --> 02:04:43.010
know what it was called. It was like activism

02:04:43.010 --> 02:04:45.069
therapy where you get people politically active

02:04:45.069 --> 02:04:47.329
in orders to like motivate them and enrich their

02:04:47.329 --> 02:04:50.050
lives. And I was like, you can't do that. You

02:04:50.050 --> 02:04:52.630
can't take a confused, existentially adrift person

02:04:52.630 --> 02:04:55.109
and be like, this is what you need to do. Get

02:04:55.109 --> 02:04:57.109
politically active? I swear to God, dude. It

02:04:57.109 --> 02:05:00.819
was – There was like really creepy stuff going

02:05:00.819 --> 02:05:03.300
on there. And it was all just like complete groupthink.

02:05:03.420 --> 02:05:05.100
You couldn't, like if you said anything outside

02:05:05.100 --> 02:05:07.399
of like what was acceptable, you would just get

02:05:07.399 --> 02:05:09.220
punished. The teachers would kind of even like,

02:05:09.300 --> 02:05:11.319
some of them would try to like scold you or be

02:05:11.319 --> 02:05:13.720
like, yeah, okay, dude. And it's like, it's.

02:05:14.199 --> 02:05:16.579
It's a lot. I could see why it would just break

02:05:16.579 --> 02:05:18.880
people. Because my heart would be beating. I

02:05:18.880 --> 02:05:20.899
don't really like conflict like that. But it

02:05:20.899 --> 02:05:22.420
was also like, dude, some of the stuff you're

02:05:22.420 --> 02:05:24.279
like, I can't not say anything. This is insane,

02:05:24.479 --> 02:05:26.560
dude. Do you ever talk about this on stage? No,

02:05:26.640 --> 02:05:28.439
I've never really talked about being in social

02:05:28.439 --> 02:05:31.779
work. Oh, my God. It's like, there's... gold

02:05:31.779 --> 02:05:34.239
in them dark hills. It was fun. At that time

02:05:34.239 --> 02:05:36.380
of the podcast, I would leave school and I'd

02:05:36.380 --> 02:05:37.659
come back to the podcast and be like, bro, you

02:05:37.659 --> 02:05:38.819
won't believe what the fuck these people are

02:05:38.819 --> 02:05:41.500
saying. You say it on the podcast? Oh, that's

02:05:41.500 --> 02:05:44.159
awesome. It just seems like it's a great gold

02:05:44.159 --> 02:05:47.279
mine for stand -up. Yeah. Because you have a

02:05:47.279 --> 02:05:51.180
very unique experience. True. As a window into

02:05:51.180 --> 02:05:54.659
how crazy people are in school. Yeah, no, it

02:05:54.659 --> 02:05:57.380
was terrifying, man. And then the weirdest part

02:05:57.380 --> 02:06:00.170
is after years went by, they were like, Do you

02:06:00.170 --> 02:06:04.189
want to get your PhD here? I was like, no. After

02:06:04.189 --> 02:06:06.670
COVID? After everything? After it all. They just

02:06:06.670 --> 02:06:08.810
wanted your money. Exactly. I saw that and I

02:06:08.810 --> 02:06:09.970
was like, man, get the hell out of here. It would

02:06:09.970 --> 02:06:12.010
be nice to be calling yourself Dr. Matt, though.

02:06:12.050 --> 02:06:13.609
Bro, don't think I didn't think about it. Come

02:06:13.609 --> 02:06:17.130
on, dog. Come on, dog. I know. That just shows

02:06:17.130 --> 02:06:19.170
you how many kooky doctors there are out there.

02:06:19.350 --> 02:06:21.069
That really opened my eyes. I thought doctors

02:06:21.069 --> 02:06:22.470
were like the smartest people in the world. Then

02:06:22.470 --> 02:06:24.310
I went to like higher education. I'm like, this

02:06:24.310 --> 02:06:27.090
is fucking insane. Yeah. Anyone can be. You could

02:06:27.090 --> 02:06:29.300
be a doctor, dude. Anyone could mean obviously

02:06:29.300 --> 02:06:31.140
like anyone could be a fucking doctor especially

02:06:31.140 --> 02:06:33.520
about some subjects right exactly That's a thing

02:06:33.520 --> 02:06:36.260
not like not hard sciences not hard science if

02:06:36.260 --> 02:06:37.939
you want to kill us you want to be a doctor you

02:06:37.939 --> 02:06:40.220
could go for like Anthropology whatever yeah,

02:06:40.399 --> 02:06:43.500
no problem, dude No, and they can't say shit

02:06:43.500 --> 02:06:45.539
like you can make up you can like make your thesis

02:06:45.539 --> 02:06:48.539
on anything and be like excuse me well, did you

02:06:48.539 --> 02:06:52.760
ever see with Peter Boghossian and James Lindsay

02:06:52.760 --> 02:06:56.350
and Ellen pluck Rose did You know what they did?

02:06:56.449 --> 02:07:00.069
No. They made these fake academic papers. Oh,

02:07:00.069 --> 02:07:03.489
yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw that. Like heteronormative

02:07:03.489 --> 02:07:06.069
something in dog parks. They were talking about

02:07:06.069 --> 02:07:08.949
like gay experiences with dogs. And it was like

02:07:08.949 --> 02:07:11.949
a peer -reviewed paper. Fat bodybuilding was

02:07:11.949 --> 02:07:15.470
one of them. Yeah. And they were like celebrated.

02:07:15.550 --> 02:07:17.569
These papers were celebrated. Dude, it would

02:07:17.569 --> 02:07:21.010
go 100%. The theory, like the critical race theory

02:07:21.010 --> 02:07:22.390
and all that stuff you cover, when you get into

02:07:22.390 --> 02:07:25.060
it, you're like. It was, and I remember, like,

02:07:25.119 --> 02:07:28.359
saying this. It was very, like, it reminded me,

02:07:28.460 --> 02:07:29.779
because I'd been outside of Walmart. Someone

02:07:29.779 --> 02:07:31.479
handed me, like, a pamphlet, and it was, like,

02:07:31.500 --> 02:07:33.560
white supremacy literature. When you read that

02:07:33.560 --> 02:07:35.140
stuff, you read the first two sentences, you

02:07:35.140 --> 02:07:37.520
go, okay, that sounds legit. And then it just,

02:07:37.600 --> 02:07:39.659
there's this, like, huge quantum leap in reasoning.

02:07:39.779 --> 02:07:41.220
You're like, whoa, how the fuck did we get here?

02:07:41.520 --> 02:07:43.260
A lot of that's very similar, where they'll make

02:07:43.260 --> 02:07:44.880
a thing, like, you just, no one can disagree

02:07:44.880 --> 02:07:46.920
with. Right. And then it jumps real quick, and

02:07:46.920 --> 02:07:48.880
you're like. Just complete groupthink. Yeah.

02:07:49.060 --> 02:07:51.159
Yeah. But that was scary to be like, damn, dude,

02:07:51.199 --> 02:07:53.069
these people are going to be like. These people

02:07:53.069 --> 02:07:54.989
are therapists working with kids, older people,

02:07:55.109 --> 02:07:56.470
you know, this and that, you know, and it was

02:07:56.470 --> 02:07:59.869
just like, I was like, how, this, how is this

02:07:59.869 --> 02:08:01.770
a people guy supposedly like, you know, guiding

02:08:01.770 --> 02:08:03.850
people through life or like taking people who

02:08:03.850 --> 02:08:05.630
are lost or suffering and being, you know, I

02:08:05.630 --> 02:08:07.590
don't know. It was, it was kind of rough because

02:08:07.590 --> 02:08:10.670
the animus against a person who like thought

02:08:10.670 --> 02:08:14.229
differently, it was palpable and like very severe

02:08:14.229 --> 02:08:16.329
to where it was like, dude. And the funniest

02:08:16.329 --> 02:08:18.829
part was like. I was, again, I was in that high

02:08:18.829 --> 02:08:20.949
school in the inner city. The school was like

02:08:20.949 --> 02:08:24.029
97 % black, the rest Latino. And they were like,

02:08:24.109 --> 02:08:26.229
how would your students feel about your podcast

02:08:26.229 --> 02:08:28.670
material? I'm like, they don't give a fuck. They

02:08:28.670 --> 02:08:31.329
would laugh. Like they have bigger fish to fry

02:08:31.329 --> 02:08:33.109
than being like, what did you say on a podcast?

02:08:33.470 --> 02:08:35.449
It's like, they're like high schoolers in Philly

02:08:35.449 --> 02:08:38.010
fighting for their lives. How would your students

02:08:38.010 --> 02:08:39.689
feel? That was the big disconnect. I'm like,

02:08:39.750 --> 02:08:41.909
you guys have like, I don't know, man. Like they

02:08:41.909 --> 02:08:43.710
would even teach you. This would crack me up.

02:08:43.789 --> 02:08:45.229
I was like thinking about this the other day

02:08:45.229 --> 02:08:48.109
where they, They would tell you if you had a

02:08:48.109 --> 02:08:49.949
client and, you know, say your client was black

02:08:49.949 --> 02:08:52.170
and, you know, I'm a white guy. I should lead

02:08:52.170 --> 02:08:55.310
by going like, how do you feel about the fact

02:08:55.310 --> 02:08:58.449
that I'm white and you're black? I was like,

02:08:58.529 --> 02:09:00.670
dude, you guys realize you're in a classroom

02:09:00.670 --> 02:09:03.329
studying how to talk to a black person. I'm like,

02:09:03.369 --> 02:09:05.869
that's fucking weird. I was like, just talk to

02:09:05.869 --> 02:09:07.310
like you can just talk to the man. And if that

02:09:07.310 --> 02:09:09.840
comes up, you can tackle it. But like you're

02:09:09.840 --> 02:09:11.960
uncomfortable and then you're going like, so

02:09:11.960 --> 02:09:14.119
black person, how do you feel that I'm white?

02:09:14.239 --> 02:09:15.880
It's like, dude, that is, and they would push

02:09:15.880 --> 02:09:17.399
back against me. I'm like, no, no, no, you guys

02:09:17.399 --> 02:09:20.300
can't do that. That's crazy. Well, you were actually

02:09:20.300 --> 02:09:22.300
applying it in the real world. They were just

02:09:22.300 --> 02:09:24.479
exhibiting, they were just hanging out in these

02:09:24.479 --> 02:09:26.720
circle jerks. Exactly. And a lot of them would

02:09:26.720 --> 02:09:28.439
be like, you know, I'm social justice, blah,

02:09:28.539 --> 02:09:29.340
blah, blah. And they're like, all right, where's

02:09:29.340 --> 02:09:30.720
your field placement? That was like your, you

02:09:30.720 --> 02:09:32.560
know, that was like your internship. And they're

02:09:32.560 --> 02:09:34.920
like, oh, I'm out in like the main lines, like

02:09:34.920 --> 02:09:36.239
a really nice area in Philly. It's like, oh,

02:09:36.260 --> 02:09:37.739
I'm doing like a high school in the main line.

02:09:37.819 --> 02:09:40.300
It's like. OK, dude, like, you know, it's like

02:09:40.300 --> 02:09:42.539
take that act somewhere else. And it's like those

02:09:42.539 --> 02:09:44.359
kids don't want to hear any of this shit like

02:09:44.359 --> 02:09:45.880
at all. And I would like you to talk to them.

02:09:45.920 --> 02:09:47.960
Like if race comes up, I would talk to them.

02:09:48.000 --> 02:09:50.180
But like you, that would have been so crazy to

02:09:50.180 --> 02:09:52.739
take a black eighth grader and being like, I'm

02:09:52.739 --> 02:09:54.899
white. How do you feel about that? That would

02:09:54.899 --> 02:09:58.560
be so creepy and weird. Isn't it crazy that they

02:09:58.560 --> 02:10:01.300
think you're obligated to bring that up? You

02:10:01.300 --> 02:10:03.680
have an obligation to discuss it. Also, it's

02:10:03.680 --> 02:10:06.539
like they fucking know they can see me. I'm clearly

02:10:06.539 --> 02:10:09.590
white. They know I'm white. And it's like, exactly.

02:10:09.850 --> 02:10:11.670
It's like, and if that you talk, talk, talk,

02:10:11.750 --> 02:10:14.109
talk, and then you can like bring it up because

02:10:14.109 --> 02:10:16.109
it's a thing, but it's like leading with that.

02:10:16.149 --> 02:10:18.729
I'd always be like least of their problems. Exactly.

02:10:18.729 --> 02:10:20.789
They're just probably happy. Someone takes an

02:10:20.789 --> 02:10:23.130
interest in them and is kind to them. Dude. And

02:10:23.130 --> 02:10:24.890
that was a big thing too, of like, you know,

02:10:24.890 --> 02:10:26.609
cause they, you get them out of class and a lot

02:10:26.609 --> 02:10:27.789
of them, they'd be like, I'm fucking talking

02:10:27.789 --> 02:10:29.010
to this guy. It's like, whatever. And I would

02:10:29.010 --> 02:10:30.310
just chill and be like, you can just do your

02:10:30.310 --> 02:10:31.890
homework. And then you just start helping them

02:10:31.890 --> 02:10:32.890
with their homework. Like, what are you doing?

02:10:32.930 --> 02:10:34.590
You know? And then you eventually build rapport.

02:10:35.689 --> 02:10:37.369
But it was just like, you know, these are the

02:10:37.369 --> 02:10:39.149
teachers telling you this. And you're like, fuck,

02:10:39.270 --> 02:10:41.029
dude, you guys are guiding people into this?

02:10:41.850 --> 02:10:44.630
It was, dude, I walked away from that being like,

02:10:44.750 --> 02:10:47.210
god damn. Well, there's a lot of people that

02:10:47.210 --> 02:10:50.229
think that, like, a lot of psychology and a lot

02:10:50.229 --> 02:10:53.250
of therapy is just complete horseshit. Yeah.

02:10:53.310 --> 02:10:55.210
And the argument about therapy being complete

02:10:55.210 --> 02:10:57.689
horseshit in terms of, like, the academic study

02:10:57.689 --> 02:11:01.329
of it and applying it to people is that very

02:11:01.329 --> 02:11:04.520
few people, you know, get better. I think it

02:11:04.520 --> 02:11:06.399
does help a lot of people, though. Yeah. And

02:11:06.399 --> 02:11:08.060
I think it really helps a lot of people if they're

02:11:08.060 --> 02:11:10.520
in a really bad place. I think some people just

02:11:10.520 --> 02:11:12.859
want to talk to somebody. Yeah. And that can

02:11:12.859 --> 02:11:17.079
help, too. Yeah. But it's like what can you actually

02:11:17.079 --> 02:11:21.739
do for them in terms of like with the tools and

02:11:21.739 --> 02:11:26.260
the techniques of therapy versus just being a

02:11:26.260 --> 02:11:30.539
human and talking to a human and seeing their

02:11:30.539 --> 02:11:33.550
side of things. Trying to tell them your perspective

02:11:33.550 --> 02:11:36.390
and trying to give them a rational point of view

02:11:36.390 --> 02:11:39.970
and giving them maybe some things to work on.

02:11:40.130 --> 02:11:43.220
But it's like... It's not a science. Not at all.

02:11:43.319 --> 02:11:46.880
And it varies so much between individuals. Well,

02:11:46.979 --> 02:11:48.979
yeah, there's the individuals. Then there's 40

02:11:48.979 --> 02:11:51.260
million modalities of therapy. So it's like you

02:11:51.260 --> 02:11:53.840
can be doing like CBT, which is like that's supposedly

02:11:53.840 --> 02:11:55.699
the most scientific where it's like there's a

02:11:55.699 --> 02:11:57.840
system. It's a kind of rigorous. You have like

02:11:57.840 --> 02:12:00.020
Jungian stuff where you're like, let's draw like

02:12:00.020 --> 02:12:02.060
a mandala based on your dreams. Or you can just

02:12:02.060 --> 02:12:04.739
be like, let me just be nice to this person who's

02:12:04.739 --> 02:12:06.800
never had anyone be nice to them. Right. And

02:12:06.800 --> 02:12:09.340
then let them kind of open up and like. Yeah,

02:12:09.359 --> 02:12:11.119
I think they did a study one time where they

02:12:11.119 --> 02:12:14.800
let people who weren't trained therapists be

02:12:14.800 --> 02:12:17.260
therapists, and they didn't find a giant difference

02:12:17.260 --> 02:12:19.739
in terms of who was getting what result. But

02:12:19.739 --> 02:12:21.560
then it is a skill, though. That's the other

02:12:21.560 --> 02:12:24.380
thing. It's a skill. It's a hard job. Yeah. But

02:12:24.380 --> 02:12:26.000
I think you're totally right where it's like

02:12:26.000 --> 02:12:28.680
it all depends on the person. Are they in touch

02:12:28.680 --> 02:12:30.079
with what's fucked with the therapist? Do they

02:12:30.079 --> 02:12:32.239
know about what's fucked up with them? Right.

02:12:32.659 --> 02:12:34.100
Because you can, like, I don't know, man. It's

02:12:34.100 --> 02:12:37.119
such a crapshoot, and it's like... I think it

02:12:37.119 --> 02:12:39.600
can be beneficial. I think like being stuck in

02:12:39.600 --> 02:12:41.279
it your whole life. I don't know about that because

02:12:41.279 --> 02:12:43.260
it just becomes a thing where you start performing

02:12:43.260 --> 02:12:45.359
and you're like, fuck, let me. Well, a lot of

02:12:45.359 --> 02:12:47.420
people feel like you have to be in therapy and

02:12:47.420 --> 02:12:51.000
everybody should be in therapy. Yeah, I don't

02:12:51.000 --> 02:12:53.060
know. Like I remember I didn't do it ever. And

02:12:53.060 --> 02:12:54.420
then when I went to school for therapy, they're

02:12:54.420 --> 02:12:56.500
like, you got to you got to go to therapy so

02:12:56.500 --> 02:12:58.399
that like you can know what it's like and blah,

02:12:58.500 --> 02:13:00.680
blah, blah. It's like, fair enough. And I genuinely

02:13:00.680 --> 02:13:02.779
walked in there being like, I'm about to blow

02:13:02.779 --> 02:13:04.520
this lady's mind. She's going to be like, I've

02:13:04.520 --> 02:13:06.659
never met a guy so put together. And then I went

02:13:06.659 --> 02:13:08.479
in there and she. kind of picked me apart. And

02:13:08.479 --> 02:13:09.979
I was like, fuck, I'm kind of fucked up. I didn't

02:13:09.979 --> 02:13:12.779
know that. That's funny. But it was, I for real

02:13:12.779 --> 02:13:14.460
was like, I'm going to, this lady's about to

02:13:14.460 --> 02:13:16.199
be like, bro, let me just tell you about my life.

02:13:16.279 --> 02:13:20.800
I like for real had so much. I thought I was

02:13:20.800 --> 02:13:26.920
a chosen one. It was good though, because like

02:13:26.920 --> 02:13:28.699
they, the one thing they can do is like, if you're

02:13:28.699 --> 02:13:32.109
in a family system. And you have no other like,

02:13:32.189 --> 02:13:34.630
you know, available worldviews. You're locked

02:13:34.630 --> 02:13:37.350
in that. So a therapist can be somebody outside

02:13:37.350 --> 02:13:39.590
of a system you would never wise ever have access

02:13:39.590 --> 02:13:42.590
to who can let you run like things through your

02:13:42.590 --> 02:13:44.609
head in a way you would never think of. And I

02:13:44.609 --> 02:13:46.920
think is good. But then it's, like, you know,

02:13:46.920 --> 02:13:48.720
at a certain point, it's, like, I feel like you

02:13:48.720 --> 02:13:50.399
should get in, get out. Kind of, like, all right,

02:13:50.399 --> 02:13:52.680
here's some things. There's, like, acceptance

02:13:52.680 --> 02:13:54.439
commitment therapy. That's good. It's, like,

02:13:54.479 --> 02:13:56.020
they teach you how to be, like, mindful, how

02:13:56.020 --> 02:13:58.199
to, like, monitor your thoughts without having

02:13:58.199 --> 02:13:59.760
them, like, completely attack. There's, like,

02:13:59.859 --> 02:14:01.880
there are, like, skills you can learn. Yeah.

02:14:02.560 --> 02:14:04.680
But it's like, dude, fucking, and the money of

02:14:04.680 --> 02:14:06.859
it's crazy. Like, that's the other thing. Like,

02:14:06.899 --> 02:14:09.319
it's so expensive. Right. And does insurance

02:14:09.319 --> 02:14:12.420
pay for it for most people? Depends. Like, it'll

02:14:12.420 --> 02:14:14.920
cover it for some. You have to be, you have to

02:14:14.920 --> 02:14:17.079
get a therapist in that network. And then they

02:14:17.079 --> 02:14:19.159
have to diagnose you if insurance wants to, if

02:14:19.159 --> 02:14:21.760
you want your insurance to cover you, that therapist

02:14:21.760 --> 02:14:23.600
has to diagnose you with a mental disorder or

02:14:23.600 --> 02:14:25.619
some sort of mental thing. Oh, and do they have

02:14:25.619 --> 02:14:27.260
to prescribe something for you? They don't, I

02:14:27.260 --> 02:14:28.899
don't think they have to prescribe, no. But it's

02:14:28.899 --> 02:14:31.539
like they have to just give you a like, you know,

02:14:31.539 --> 02:14:34.159
your bipolar adjustment disorder is the one where

02:14:34.159 --> 02:14:36.220
it's like. But with psychiatrists, like I wonder

02:14:36.220 --> 02:14:39.460
how many of them are just like incentivized to

02:14:39.460 --> 02:14:41.760
put you on something. Probably a ton. They're

02:14:41.760 --> 02:14:44.260
just like doctors. Right. So and then some of

02:14:44.260 --> 02:14:45.720
them just swear by it. They're like, just take

02:14:45.720 --> 02:14:47.439
this, take that, take this. Yeah. I have a friend

02:14:47.439 --> 02:14:49.180
who went to a psychiatrist and he said that like

02:14:49.180 --> 02:14:52.319
immediately, like first meeting, this guy is

02:14:52.319 --> 02:14:54.560
trying to put him on antidepressants. Yeah. And

02:14:54.560 --> 02:14:58.930
he's like. I don't think I need that. Like, I'm

02:14:58.930 --> 02:15:02.470
not that fucked up. I'm just not happy. Yeah.

02:15:02.569 --> 02:15:04.630
I'm sad. It's also, the first meeting's crazy

02:15:04.630 --> 02:15:06.210
because it's like, let's see what your life's

02:15:06.210 --> 02:15:08.229
about. No, he's like, let's get you on this and

02:15:08.229 --> 02:15:10.409
it'll make you feel better. Yeah. And we'll work

02:15:10.409 --> 02:15:12.630
from there. Well, some of those guys are like

02:15:12.630 --> 02:15:14.569
ruthless materialists where you're like, yeah,

02:15:14.569 --> 02:15:16.210
your brain's just fucked up, dude. Right. Because

02:15:16.210 --> 02:15:18.109
that, like, did you ever see the Sapowski guy?

02:15:18.529 --> 02:15:20.069
Yeah, Robert Sapowski. Yeah, I think he's great.

02:15:20.109 --> 02:15:22.720
I loved his lectures. But his last book. And

02:15:22.720 --> 02:15:24.279
again, this was like from him promoting it. I

02:15:24.279 --> 02:15:25.960
didn't read it, but his argument was like, yeah,

02:15:26.020 --> 02:15:27.479
we just all have different brains. And if you're

02:15:27.479 --> 02:15:30.619
like, you know, if you're like a fucking home

02:15:30.619 --> 02:15:32.899
invader or burglar, it's just your genes suck.

02:15:32.960 --> 02:15:34.699
And like, we should never punish anybody. We

02:15:34.699 --> 02:15:36.840
should just kind of like. keep people aside and

02:15:36.840 --> 02:15:38.560
just rehabilitate basically saying like you have

02:15:38.560 --> 02:15:41.020
no choice over what you do at all free will is

02:15:41.020 --> 02:15:44.119
complete illusion yeah that's the determinism

02:15:44.119 --> 02:15:46.260
argument yeah yeah yeah I don't know about that

02:15:46.260 --> 02:15:49.539
argument I mean obviously free will is real but

02:15:49.539 --> 02:15:51.800
obviously you are affected by your genes your

02:15:51.800 --> 02:15:55.750
life circumstances your past behavior your all

02:15:55.750 --> 02:15:57.970
the experiences that you've had. There's a lot

02:15:57.970 --> 02:16:00.550
of factors to say that will doesn't mean anything.

02:16:00.649 --> 02:16:03.369
But then why is inspiration so important? Yeah.

02:16:03.470 --> 02:16:05.489
Why do people love inspiration? Why do people

02:16:05.489 --> 02:16:07.710
love like a good pep talk? Why do people love

02:16:07.710 --> 02:16:09.569
like a good motivational video that gets you

02:16:09.569 --> 02:16:10.949
out of the house? Like obviously there's will

02:16:10.949 --> 02:16:15.010
involved. Yeah. And will is. Will is the thing

02:16:15.010 --> 02:16:18.470
that turns you into a jelly roll at 500 pounds

02:16:18.470 --> 02:16:21.449
to jelly roll at 200 pounds. Like, that's what

02:16:21.449 --> 02:16:25.069
Will does. Yeah. Like, that's a real thing, man.

02:16:25.189 --> 02:16:28.569
That's not a fake thing, this idea of free will.

02:16:28.750 --> 02:16:31.529
It's no determinism that led Jelly Roll to decide

02:16:31.529 --> 02:16:35.510
to start walking. It was hardcore Will. Yeah.

02:16:35.870 --> 02:16:37.809
No, I agree. I don't – that argument always –

02:16:37.809 --> 02:16:39.430
because I like Sapowski. I liked a lot of his

02:16:39.430 --> 02:16:41.110
stuff. That argument just bothers me because

02:16:41.110 --> 02:16:44.010
it's like, okay, you're taking the idea of will

02:16:44.010 --> 02:16:46.170
and just switching it with like this nebulous

02:16:46.170 --> 02:16:48.250
– like what? There's like an isotope in your

02:16:48.250 --> 02:16:50.229
brain that is – like it's switched on and then

02:16:50.229 --> 02:16:51.909
you're able – it's just – to me it's such a –

02:16:51.909 --> 02:16:54.930
like a – just a weird point to kind of like try

02:16:54.930 --> 02:16:56.670
to push across. Like there's no free will. It's

02:16:56.670 --> 02:16:58.370
just your gene activates and then you do the

02:16:58.370 --> 02:17:00.590
thing and it's like – I guess, man. But then

02:17:00.590 --> 02:17:02.909
you can like change your genes apparently by

02:17:02.909 --> 02:17:06.040
like acting a certain way. So it's like – You

02:17:06.040 --> 02:17:08.639
know, I just never liked that stuff, man. It's

02:17:08.639 --> 02:17:11.299
a weird argument, but there's validity to both

02:17:11.299 --> 02:17:14.020
perspectives. There's validity to the perspective

02:17:14.020 --> 02:17:18.200
that free will is a real thing, but also determinism

02:17:18.200 --> 02:17:21.280
is a giant factor in how many people live their

02:17:21.280 --> 02:17:23.420
lives the way they live them. Yeah. Especially

02:17:23.420 --> 02:17:26.180
if you're in a shit circumstance. You're in a

02:17:26.180 --> 02:17:30.360
terrible... Gang ridden community get beaten

02:17:30.360 --> 02:17:33.180
in your house. Your mom's on crack. It is chaos

02:17:33.180 --> 02:17:35.420
everywhere The idea that you're gonna come out

02:17:35.420 --> 02:17:38.319
of this writing vegan poetry. It's true. It's

02:17:38.319 --> 02:17:40.500
in so that that's that's true And that's insane

02:17:40.500 --> 02:17:42.659
you're a product of your environment at least

02:17:42.659 --> 02:17:45.379
to a certain extent and usually someone finds

02:17:45.379 --> 02:17:48.360
Something that they love that gives them an outlet

02:17:48.360 --> 02:17:50.819
and then they get out of there or the problem

02:17:50.819 --> 02:17:52.620
with the determinism stuff for me Is like because

02:17:52.620 --> 02:17:54.739
I I do get that it's like, you know Yeah, if

02:17:54.739 --> 02:17:56.719
you have a horrible upbringing and you do a whore,

02:17:56.780 --> 02:17:59.280
you know you kill people it is like yeah i get

02:17:59.280 --> 02:18:01.100
it like if i had that had been me maybe i can

02:18:01.100 --> 02:18:02.799
do that and like he's like maybe we should treat

02:18:02.799 --> 02:18:04.799
everyone a lot more kindly and not punish people

02:18:04.799 --> 02:18:07.299
and it's like i'm all on board with that it all

02:18:07.299 --> 02:18:09.420
for me it all stops at pedophiles and it's like

02:18:09.420 --> 02:18:11.760
so what we're supposed to just like right poo

02:18:11.760 --> 02:18:13.879
poo a pedophile it's like part of me is like

02:18:13.879 --> 02:18:15.719
we should probably fucking fry those guys where

02:18:15.719 --> 02:18:17.600
it's like well that's one of the craziest things

02:18:17.600 --> 02:18:20.020
about this whole what's going on the woke shit

02:18:20.020 --> 02:18:21.659
in academia is they're starting to call them

02:18:21.659 --> 02:18:23.879
minor attracted persons yeah so there's like

02:18:23.879 --> 02:18:27.909
legitimate academics who are describing as minor

02:18:27.909 --> 02:18:31.229
attracted persons and that it doesn't mean that

02:18:31.229 --> 02:18:35.950
they're evil. It's like, what? Yeah. I know,

02:18:36.010 --> 02:18:37.549
and that's the problem. It's like, okay. Especially

02:18:37.549 --> 02:18:39.610
if you have kids. I don't know anybody who has

02:18:39.610 --> 02:18:42.190
kids who has that perspective. No. If you did,

02:18:42.309 --> 02:18:44.909
you have to be, like, a sick fuck, like, to think

02:18:44.909 --> 02:18:47.149
that it's, oh, it's just a minor attractive person

02:18:47.149 --> 02:18:49.409
that fucked my kid. Like, what? Yeah, well, and

02:18:49.409 --> 02:18:50.510
that's the whole thing, too, where it's like

02:18:50.510 --> 02:18:51.930
you wear all these bags, you know, of, like,

02:18:51.930 --> 02:18:54.329
jeans and wear this material goo that just does

02:18:54.329 --> 02:18:56.530
something sometimes. It's like, all right, well,

02:18:56.569 --> 02:18:59.250
let me fucking squash this pedophile. We're all

02:18:59.250 --> 02:19:00.750
just bags of goo, so let me, you know, crush

02:19:00.750 --> 02:19:03.069
this guy. Right, it's okay to abort a child,

02:19:03.290 --> 02:19:05.170
but it's not okay to kill a pedophile. I know.

02:19:05.530 --> 02:19:07.170
Explain, help me. Yeah, that's where it gets,

02:19:07.250 --> 02:19:09.049
for me, all that, like, determinism. Like, we

02:19:09.049 --> 02:19:10.549
should just be kind and have a more rational

02:19:10.549 --> 02:19:13.430
approach. to criminal justice it's like for sure

02:19:13.430 --> 02:19:15.750
and then it's like ah pedophiles it's like yeah

02:19:15.750 --> 02:19:20.170
you can't pedophiles serial killers yeah there's

02:19:20.170 --> 02:19:22.770
a lot of There's a lot of different people you

02:19:22.770 --> 02:19:24.409
could throw into that. One of the interesting

02:19:24.409 --> 02:19:28.049
things about Sapolsky is he did some crazy work

02:19:28.049 --> 02:19:30.790
on toxoplasmosis. That's how I really got into

02:19:30.790 --> 02:19:34.069
him. Really? Yeah. He was the guy that we first

02:19:34.069 --> 02:19:36.670
started reading about that was saying that a

02:19:36.670 --> 02:19:38.649
disproportionate amount of motorcycle victims,

02:19:38.750 --> 02:19:42.770
when he was doing his residency, the guy who

02:19:42.770 --> 02:19:44.770
he was working with, one of the surgeons, would

02:19:44.770 --> 02:19:48.309
test the motorcycle victims for toxoplasmosis.

02:19:48.389 --> 02:19:50.850
And he said a giant percentage. of them have

02:19:50.850 --> 02:19:54.309
this cat parasite. Oh yeah, I've heard about

02:19:54.309 --> 02:19:56.909
this. This cat parasite alters behavior, it makes

02:19:56.909 --> 02:19:59.549
you more reckless, it makes you more prone to

02:19:59.549 --> 02:20:02.969
erratic mood swings, and it makes you more aggressive.

02:20:03.680 --> 02:20:05.459
It's interesting. Yeah. Disproportionate amount

02:20:05.459 --> 02:20:09.540
of successful soccer teams have high levels of

02:20:09.540 --> 02:20:12.879
toxoplasmosis. Damn. Countries with higher toxoplasmosis.

02:20:12.879 --> 02:20:16.959
There could also be countries of higher toxoplasmosis

02:20:16.959 --> 02:20:18.979
don't have any money. It's easier to get a soccer

02:20:18.979 --> 02:20:20.920
ball. People get good at soccer. It's the way

02:20:20.920 --> 02:20:26.500
out of bad neighborhoods. But the motorcycle

02:20:26.500 --> 02:20:28.620
victim thing is nuts because we know it affects

02:20:28.620 --> 02:20:31.530
human behavior. And we also know that it affects

02:20:31.530 --> 02:20:35.780
animal behavior. It makes cats. It grows inside

02:20:35.780 --> 02:20:38.159
cats' guts. It's the only way that it reproduces.

02:20:38.420 --> 02:20:41.200
So what it does is it rewires a sexual reward

02:20:41.200 --> 02:20:44.899
system of rodents. And like mice and rats get

02:20:44.899 --> 02:20:48.479
turned on by the smell of cat piss. So they go

02:20:48.479 --> 02:20:50.979
to seek out cat piss with like a boner, like

02:20:50.979 --> 02:20:53.239
literally. And they lose all their fear of cats

02:20:53.239 --> 02:20:56.219
so that the cats devour them. And so when the

02:20:56.219 --> 02:20:58.979
cats devour them, then that parasite is now inside

02:20:58.979 --> 02:21:01.020
the cat's gut, which is where it reproduces.

02:21:01.790 --> 02:21:03.510
So that's why they tell pregnant women you should

02:21:03.510 --> 02:21:08.139
never touch cat litter. Really? Yeah. It's toxoplasmosis.

02:21:08.200 --> 02:21:09.680
And they think it does the same thing in humans,

02:21:09.739 --> 02:21:11.219
where it just makes you, like, kind of amps up

02:21:11.219 --> 02:21:14.040
your drives. Yeah. Damn. You know what else is

02:21:14.040 --> 02:21:15.479
nuts, too? Because you were saying that's more

02:21:15.479 --> 02:21:17.159
in, like, certain countries that are, like, developing.

02:21:17.180 --> 02:21:21.280
Well, it's in rural areas and in places where

02:21:21.280 --> 02:21:24.780
people have, like, outdoor cats. Yeah. But there

02:21:24.780 --> 02:21:26.979
was one point where in France it was, like, 50

02:21:26.979 --> 02:21:29.680
% of the people had toxo. Jesus Christ. Yeah,

02:21:29.700 --> 02:21:31.540
because there was wild cats everywhere. Yeah.

02:21:31.559 --> 02:21:33.209
And you got to think, cats are... They're on

02:21:33.209 --> 02:21:36.129
your countertop. Their fucking shit is on their

02:21:36.129 --> 02:21:39.729
paws. That's the one thing. I have dogs. Cats

02:21:39.729 --> 02:21:41.530
are fine. If I see a cat, I'll pet it. But when

02:21:41.530 --> 02:21:43.209
I see people's cats on their countertop, and

02:21:43.209 --> 02:21:44.610
I don't get squeamish easily, I'm just kind of

02:21:44.610 --> 02:21:46.770
like, ew, dude. It is gross. It's kind of gross.

02:21:46.950 --> 02:21:49.750
Well, they shit in a box. They paw around in

02:21:49.750 --> 02:21:52.170
that box of shit and piss, and then they hop

02:21:52.170 --> 02:21:54.389
on your couch. Yeah. With shit and piss on their

02:21:54.389 --> 02:21:56.979
paws. Yeah. Dogs go outside. They take a shit,

02:21:57.059 --> 02:21:58.700
they come inside, they're good. As long as your

02:21:58.700 --> 02:22:00.940
dog doesn't rub his asshole on your dinner plates,

02:22:01.159 --> 02:22:03.840
you're probably okay. But I've had cats that

02:22:03.840 --> 02:22:05.780
walk on your plates. They don't give a shit.

02:22:05.819 --> 02:22:08.639
They'll take a seat on your plate. You're like,

02:22:08.700 --> 02:22:10.540
I have to get a new plate now, you fuck. What

02:22:10.540 --> 02:22:13.159
are you doing? Get off of that. They're funny,

02:22:13.239 --> 02:22:15.000
but every time I see them get out of the litter

02:22:15.000 --> 02:22:16.760
box and walk across people's countertops, I'm

02:22:16.760 --> 02:22:18.700
like, dude. It's funny. I've always had them,

02:22:18.739 --> 02:22:20.280
though. Well, I don't have them now because my

02:22:20.280 --> 02:22:22.479
kids are allergic, but when I was younger, I

02:22:22.479 --> 02:22:25.159
had them, and they are fun. I like them. them

02:22:25.159 --> 02:22:27.600
they're fun pets they're cute they come over

02:22:27.600 --> 02:22:30.299
you and purr yeah but it is weird that you have

02:22:30.299 --> 02:22:32.600
a box of shit in your house and there's a lot

02:22:32.600 --> 02:22:34.680
of people like they're lazy and you go over their

02:22:34.680 --> 02:22:36.100
house that they have a cat they're not cleaning

02:22:36.100 --> 02:22:37.819
that litter box enough and as soon as you walk

02:22:37.819 --> 02:22:41.799
in they'll Fucking waft of piss and shit hits

02:22:41.799 --> 02:22:43.719
you. Like, bro, you're just smelling this all

02:22:43.719 --> 02:22:45.719
day? So bad. I would need an outdoor. I used

02:22:45.719 --> 02:22:48.479
to let stray cats come in my house. After college,

02:22:48.540 --> 02:22:50.219
I lived in a house by myself in Philly. It was

02:22:50.219 --> 02:22:53.500
a small house, and a lot of the houses on the

02:22:53.500 --> 02:22:55.600
street had been knocked down. So there were row

02:22:55.600 --> 02:22:57.379
homes, but I had a standalone row home. There

02:22:57.379 --> 02:22:58.739
was a lady across the street. I had a standalone

02:22:58.739 --> 02:23:00.819
row home. They just knocked all the houses next

02:23:00.819 --> 02:23:02.739
to us down and, like, two other people, and I

02:23:02.739 --> 02:23:04.440
would let the stray cat into my house. Like,

02:23:04.459 --> 02:23:06.840
you know, you can come stand here. But I'd be

02:23:06.840 --> 02:23:08.299
like, you can't, like, this thing can't get in

02:23:08.299 --> 02:23:10.819
my bed. And like, by like three days, that thing

02:23:10.819 --> 02:23:13.360
was like curled up next to my face. I got a fucked

02:23:13.360 --> 02:23:15.860
up eye infection. Yeah. It was called epidemic.

02:23:15.979 --> 02:23:18.319
No, it's called epidemic keratoconjunctivitis.

02:23:18.520 --> 02:23:20.379
It's called shit in your eye. It literally was.

02:23:20.420 --> 02:23:22.639
But the eye doctor was like, the eye doctor goes,

02:23:22.719 --> 02:23:24.280
I had only seen, this is like in third world

02:23:24.280 --> 02:23:27.120
countries. And dude, for six months afterwards,

02:23:27.239 --> 02:23:29.139
after it got cleared up, they had to shut the

02:23:29.139 --> 02:23:31.120
thing down and clean the whole eye practice.

02:23:31.979 --> 02:23:34.479
Afterwards, my eye at 10 o 'clock would start

02:23:34.479 --> 02:23:36.899
to droop. Whoa. Because the white blood cells

02:23:36.899 --> 02:23:39.000
would rush to my eye. So I would be out, dude,

02:23:39.040 --> 02:23:40.879
for six months after this thing finally cleared

02:23:40.879 --> 02:23:42.520
up. Because it was viral. They're like, there's

02:23:42.520 --> 02:23:45.319
nothing you can do for it. I would go out. My

02:23:45.319 --> 02:23:46.639
eye would just start drooping. And I'd be like,

02:23:46.719 --> 02:23:48.959
I got to go home. I gotta go home. It's your

02:23:48.959 --> 02:23:50.639
alarm. I would feel like I had fucking... This

02:23:50.639 --> 02:23:52.100
is what you said? Yes, I feel like I had fucking

02:23:52.100 --> 02:23:55.120
sand in my eye. Highly contagious, severe eye

02:23:55.120 --> 02:23:57.899
infection caused by adenovirus, typically types

02:23:57.899 --> 02:24:01.700
A, 8, A at 19, 37, cause rapid onset of red,

02:24:01.739 --> 02:24:04.180
painful, watery eyes, often with light sensitivity,

02:24:04.440 --> 02:24:07.680
blurred vision, and swollen eyelids. Whoa. Dude,

02:24:07.780 --> 02:24:09.399
I would wake up in the morning, my eyelid was

02:24:09.399 --> 02:24:11.659
stuck together, and I'd have to pull it open.

02:24:12.170 --> 02:24:14.030
And then I saw the movie Ray. Remember the beginning

02:24:14.030 --> 02:24:16.090
of Ray when his eyes get all globbed up? I was

02:24:16.090 --> 02:24:17.850
like, dude, am I going blind? This would suck.

02:24:18.129 --> 02:24:20.030
That would suck if you got blind from a cat's

02:24:20.030 --> 02:24:21.729
asshole. That would fucking suck, dude. Bro.

02:24:22.090 --> 02:24:25.510
Yeah. A friend of mine has shingles on his face.

02:24:25.850 --> 02:24:28.309
It's crazy. His whole face is all swollen up,

02:24:28.309 --> 02:24:30.209
and he's worried he might go blind. He has it

02:24:30.209 --> 02:24:32.729
now? Yeah, he just got it. He's an older guy,

02:24:32.829 --> 02:24:35.090
and he just got it. Is shingles like when you

02:24:35.090 --> 02:24:37.290
don't get chicken pox, and it comes and gets

02:24:37.290 --> 02:24:41.000
you afterwards? I think so. I think it's a form

02:24:41.000 --> 02:24:44.520
of the herpes virus that affects older people

02:24:44.520 --> 02:24:47.000
in particular. Older people are terrified of

02:24:47.000 --> 02:24:49.799
it. They get shingles vaccinations and shit.

02:24:51.260 --> 02:24:53.579
Is that what it is? I thought chicken pox was

02:24:53.579 --> 02:24:56.399
herpes too. Oh, really? I always heard that if

02:24:56.399 --> 02:24:58.000
you don't get chicken pox as a kid, you might

02:24:58.000 --> 02:25:00.120
get shingles as an adult. My uncle got shingles

02:25:00.120 --> 02:25:03.899
and he said it sucked. Known as herpes zoster,

02:25:04.200 --> 02:25:06.260
a viral infection that causes a painful rash.

02:25:06.459 --> 02:25:09.700
It stems from the reactivation of the varicella

02:25:09.700 --> 02:25:12.879
zuster virus, the same one responsible for chickenpox,

02:25:13.079 --> 02:25:16.079
which lies dormant in nerve tissues after the

02:25:16.079 --> 02:25:18.620
initial infection. So after you get the infection,

02:25:18.819 --> 02:25:21.500
then you can get shingles. Oh, no. After chickenpox

02:25:21.500 --> 02:25:24.360
resolves, the virus remains inactive in the body's

02:25:24.360 --> 02:25:27.379
nerve cells. Factors like aging, weakened immunity,

02:25:27.520 --> 02:25:30.360
or stress can trigger reactivation, leading to

02:25:30.360 --> 02:25:33.399
shingles. Most commonly in adults over 50, yeah.

02:25:33.799 --> 02:25:36.020
Yeah, my friend is like in his 60s. That sucks,

02:25:36.180 --> 02:25:40.600
dude. Yeah, that's rough. A lot of older people

02:25:40.600 --> 02:25:42.719
are scared of shingles. Yeah, my uncle got it.

02:25:43.000 --> 02:25:46.940
Is the shingles vaccine effective? Does it prevent

02:25:46.940 --> 02:25:50.799
shingles? Is that one of the legit ones? It says

02:25:50.799 --> 02:25:55.899
vaccines like Shingrix reduce risk significantly.

02:25:57.459 --> 02:26:01.329
Antiviral drugs shorten outbreaks. If started

02:26:01.329 --> 02:26:03.709
early. Oh, you got to get on it right when you

02:26:03.709 --> 02:26:08.489
see the first bump. Somebody knows kids got MRSA

02:26:08.489 --> 02:26:11.290
from swimming in one of those. Oh, that's scary.

02:26:11.290 --> 02:26:13.229
We got the pictures. It was just like bubble.

02:26:13.389 --> 02:26:16.620
It looked crazy. MRSA's terrifying. Yeah. That's

02:26:16.620 --> 02:26:19.620
all from people taking antibiotics. Or it was

02:26:19.620 --> 02:26:21.959
Staph. Staph and MRSA. Yeah, it was Staph. Staph

02:26:21.959 --> 02:26:24.079
is the more dangerous one. Oh, excuse me. MRSA

02:26:24.079 --> 02:26:26.840
is the more dangerous one because MRSA is medically,

02:26:26.920 --> 02:26:29.760
medical resistant. Oh, okay. Medicine resistant.

02:26:29.780 --> 02:26:32.059
So this was just Staph. So it was like a giant

02:26:32.059 --> 02:26:35.000
bubble on their hand. It looked crazy. I've had

02:26:35.000 --> 02:26:36.739
Staph. Did you really? I've had it a couple times.

02:26:36.799 --> 02:26:39.399
Oh, yeah. I got it from jujitsu. A lot of people

02:26:39.399 --> 02:26:43.579
get it. Yeah. It's real common. A lot of people

02:26:43.579 --> 02:26:45.340
get it, and they don't even realize they have

02:26:45.340 --> 02:26:47.260
it until it's too late. Ari had it, and you didn't

02:26:47.260 --> 02:26:49.379
even know he had it. We were playing pool once,

02:26:49.459 --> 02:26:51.159
and he was limping. He was walking around. I

02:26:51.159 --> 02:26:53.139
go, why are you limping? And he goes, oh, I got

02:26:53.139 --> 02:26:54.959
a spider bite. And he was doing jiu -jitsu. I

02:26:54.959 --> 02:26:56.860
bought him a year of jiu -jitsu for Christmas.

02:26:56.940 --> 02:27:01.360
Yeah. I forced him to celebrate Christmas. I

02:27:01.360 --> 02:27:03.340
didn't say it's Hanukkah. I got him a Christmas

02:27:03.340 --> 02:27:07.379
present. But I go, let me see. And he rolls his

02:27:07.379 --> 02:27:10.860
pants up, and I see this bubble. on his knee

02:27:10.860 --> 02:27:13.719
with like a pus center of it. And I go, we're

02:27:13.719 --> 02:27:15.379
going to the hospital right now. He goes, are

02:27:15.379 --> 02:27:17.559
you serious? I unscrewed my cue. I go, you have

02:27:17.559 --> 02:27:19.340
to go to the hospital right now. I go, right

02:27:19.340 --> 02:27:22.020
now. I go, that's staph infection. And he was

02:27:22.020 --> 02:27:23.559
like, why don't they fucking tell us about it?

02:27:23.559 --> 02:27:25.479
Why aren't there signs at the gym warning you

02:27:25.479 --> 02:27:27.260
about it? I'm like, that's a good point. Like,

02:27:27.299 --> 02:27:29.799
you kind of have to hear about it from somebody.

02:27:30.299 --> 02:27:33.600
I found out about it from my friend Tate. Shout

02:27:33.600 --> 02:27:36.219
out to Tate Fletcher, my homie. We were at the

02:27:36.219 --> 02:27:39.639
airport once. And I had shorts on, and I had

02:27:39.639 --> 02:27:41.260
just like my foot sitting up like this. He goes,

02:27:41.299 --> 02:27:43.600
what's on your calf? I had like little pimples

02:27:43.600 --> 02:27:45.659
on my calf. I'm like, I don't know, nothing.

02:27:46.260 --> 02:27:48.579
And he goes, dude, I think that's staph. I'm

02:27:48.579 --> 02:27:51.399
like, what? These are like little zits? You think

02:27:51.399 --> 02:27:52.739
that's staph? And he goes, yeah, you should go

02:27:52.739 --> 02:27:54.719
get that checked out. And I went to the doctor,

02:27:54.760 --> 02:27:56.100
and he said, yeah, that looks like staph. He

02:27:56.100 --> 02:27:57.379
goes, I'm going to put you on antibiotics right

02:27:57.379 --> 02:27:59.540
away, and we're just going to swab it and send

02:27:59.540 --> 02:28:01.459
it in, but I don't want to wait. And I got on

02:28:01.459 --> 02:28:03.879
it right away, and so I killed it quick. But

02:28:03.879 --> 02:28:09.010
I remember the antibiotics. Dude, you feel so

02:28:09.010 --> 02:28:11.170
weird when you're on there. You're just like

02:28:11.170 --> 02:28:14.649
so tired. I hate taking them, man. Some guys

02:28:14.649 --> 02:28:17.110
fight on them. I know guys that have got staph

02:28:17.110 --> 02:28:20.049
infections in the UFC, fought off the staph infection

02:28:20.049 --> 02:28:23.309
with antibiotics, and then fought on the antibiotics,

02:28:23.469 --> 02:28:26.209
which is crazy. Yeah, that's insane. I don't

02:28:26.209 --> 02:28:29.209
know how you'd have any endurance. No. I always

02:28:29.209 --> 02:28:32.829
feel weird. They mess my stomach up so bad. Oh,

02:28:32.829 --> 02:28:34.190
yeah. I'm going to end it, but my stomach's just

02:28:34.190 --> 02:28:36.389
fried. Well, my friend Gordon Ryan, that's his

02:28:36.389 --> 02:28:38.690
belt up there. He's the greatest jujitsu grappler

02:28:38.690 --> 02:28:41.530
of all time. He has to retire because he got

02:28:41.530 --> 02:28:43.649
staffed so many times that he was taking antibiotics

02:28:43.649 --> 02:28:47.469
so often that it fucking nuked his gut bacteria.

02:28:47.709 --> 02:28:49.930
Ah, fuck. And, like, he can't hold food down.

02:28:50.030 --> 02:28:52.709
He throws up all the time. It sucks. Yeah, it's

02:28:52.709 --> 02:28:55.309
crazy. He's been dealing with it for years. And

02:28:55.309 --> 02:28:57.950
he just announced on Instagram really recently

02:28:57.950 --> 02:29:01.139
that he has to retire. Dude, I got— He can't

02:29:01.139 --> 02:29:03.020
train. That fucking blows. And he's the greatest

02:29:03.020 --> 02:29:05.760
of all time. And he's done. And he's 30. Ugh.

02:29:06.040 --> 02:29:09.979
Yeah. That sucks. Like, unanimously regarded

02:29:09.979 --> 02:29:12.360
as the greatest grappler of all time. And that's

02:29:12.360 --> 02:29:15.260
it. Yeah. He's gone, like, 10 years undefeated,

02:29:15.260 --> 02:29:17.739
beating the best fighters in the world. Can he

02:29:17.739 --> 02:29:19.799
take, like, time off? Can he just take, like,

02:29:19.799 --> 02:29:21.979
five years off? He's trying. He's done that.

02:29:22.020 --> 02:29:24.360
He hasn't competed in a couple of years. He can't

02:29:24.360 --> 02:29:26.620
do it. He can't train. That sucks. It's like

02:29:26.620 --> 02:29:29.469
it keeps coming back. Dude, I had eczema one

02:29:29.469 --> 02:29:32.870
time, and it, like, it came up on my, it was,

02:29:32.909 --> 02:29:36.690
like, on my legs, and it was on my dick. And

02:29:36.690 --> 02:29:38.170
I thought it was ringworm because it was, like,

02:29:38.190 --> 02:29:40.450
a perfect circle. So I go to the, you know, I

02:29:40.450 --> 02:29:42.469
go to the, whatever, urgent care, and I'm like,

02:29:42.590 --> 02:29:44.469
yeah, I got fucking ringworm. And they're like,

02:29:44.590 --> 02:29:45.829
that's weird. Usually it doesn't go on there.

02:29:46.250 --> 02:29:48.110
But they're like, just put fucking, you know,

02:29:48.209 --> 02:29:51.010
Lotrim, or I think what I. Yeah, like Lotrim

02:29:51.010 --> 02:29:53.879
and that shit. So I put Lotrimine on my dick,

02:29:54.020 --> 02:29:57.120
and it just dried, like, the whole thing. It

02:29:57.120 --> 02:30:00.000
was, like, it was disgusting. So then I had to

02:30:00.000 --> 02:30:02.459
go back to another urgent care, and it would

02:30:02.459 --> 02:30:03.860
have been, like, the second or third time. I

02:30:03.860 --> 02:30:06.200
had to show, like, a fucking shriveled, flaccid,

02:30:06.200 --> 02:30:09.600
like, chapped red penis. I showed this one nurse

02:30:09.600 --> 02:30:12.500
who goes, like, I don't know, calls in another

02:30:12.500 --> 02:30:15.440
nurse, and I'm like. Fuck, all right. She comes

02:30:15.440 --> 02:30:16.899
in. I don't know what that is. They call in someone

02:30:16.899 --> 02:30:18.899
else. I'm like, oh, third nurse. Giant black

02:30:18.899 --> 02:30:25.940
guy comes in. I'm like, no. No. No. No. You know

02:30:25.940 --> 02:30:27.840
he's going to laugh as soon as he leaves. Bro,

02:30:28.020 --> 02:30:30.500
he was probably, I can't believe. Yeah, it was

02:30:30.500 --> 02:30:34.540
bad. And then finally, I finally went to a dermatologist.

02:30:34.719 --> 02:30:37.579
And dude, you can look it up. Center City Dermatology.

02:30:38.190 --> 02:30:41.209
run by just like a babe like it's on the website

02:30:41.209 --> 02:30:43.370
everyone knows this who has ever gone there my

02:30:43.370 --> 02:30:44.909
friend i was talking about it one time my friend

02:30:44.909 --> 02:30:46.069
was like bro i know exactly what you're talking

02:30:46.069 --> 02:30:48.770
about she comes in checks it out and she's like

02:30:48.770 --> 02:30:51.190
dude you had you know that wasn't even ringworm

02:30:51.190 --> 02:30:53.049
and then she gave me this cream and it like cleared

02:30:53.049 --> 02:30:55.309
it right up so i just show like my like like

02:30:55.309 --> 02:31:01.110
champ it was like a leprosy bro that's whoa yeah

02:31:01.110 --> 02:31:05.899
dude She saw me at my worst. Hilarious. So I

02:31:05.899 --> 02:31:07.180
had to show it to like four people. It was like

02:31:07.180 --> 02:31:09.420
a leprosy penis. And then eventually she was

02:31:09.420 --> 02:31:11.700
like, oh no, dude, take like, it was like a cortosteroid.

02:31:12.059 --> 02:31:14.360
Cleared it right up. I know people that have

02:31:14.360 --> 02:31:16.799
had eczema that went on a carnivore diet and

02:31:16.799 --> 02:31:19.440
it went away. I can't have gluten. That's the

02:31:19.440 --> 02:31:21.920
thing. I've been allergic to gluten for a while,

02:31:21.940 --> 02:31:23.899
and if I kind of backslide on that, it's like

02:31:23.899 --> 02:31:26.120
I'll get little eczema flare -ups. A lot of people

02:31:26.120 --> 02:31:28.319
are allergic to it. And a lot of people don't

02:31:28.319 --> 02:31:30.680
think it's actually the gluten. They think it's

02:31:30.680 --> 02:31:34.360
actually how they finish the crops with glyphosate.

02:31:34.379 --> 02:31:36.780
I've heard about that. Yeah. Which kind of makes

02:31:36.780 --> 02:31:39.319
sense because, like, why are all these gluten

02:31:39.319 --> 02:31:43.299
intolerant? Nobody heard about those in the 70s?

02:31:43.299 --> 02:31:46.270
No. There was no one gluten intolerant. No, it

02:31:46.270 --> 02:31:49.430
was weird. The weird thing is my mom, she's always

02:31:49.430 --> 02:31:52.229
been a health person. She got this book because

02:31:52.229 --> 02:31:53.889
she had health problems and like it was might

02:31:53.889 --> 02:31:55.829
have been the 80s. My aunt was a nurse, gave

02:31:55.829 --> 02:31:58.670
her this book. My mom self -diagnosed gluten

02:31:58.670 --> 02:32:01.129
allergy in like the 80s. And everyone's like,

02:32:01.170 --> 02:32:02.989
you're out of your fucking mind. Like nobody

02:32:02.989 --> 02:32:05.809
has this, blah, blah, blah. And, yeah, then,

02:32:05.870 --> 02:32:07.409
like, when I was in college, I was like, dude,

02:32:07.489 --> 02:32:09.989
like, I feel like my, every time I swallow food,

02:32:10.170 --> 02:32:12.409
it feels stuck in my throat. I have, like, gas.

02:32:12.469 --> 02:32:14.610
I'm burping. My stomach's fucked up. I'm not

02:32:14.610 --> 02:32:16.889
sleeping. I was having, like, racing thoughts

02:32:16.889 --> 02:32:18.329
and shit. And she was like, oh, try not eating

02:32:18.329 --> 02:32:20.950
gluten for a while. Dude, it cleared it up. That's

02:32:20.950 --> 02:32:23.370
crazy. It was insane. I wonder if that's the

02:32:23.370 --> 02:32:25.510
same with gluten that you get in Europe where

02:32:25.510 --> 02:32:27.329
they're not using any glyphosate. No, that's

02:32:27.329 --> 02:32:29.569
what I heard. Apparently you can go eat it in

02:32:29.569 --> 02:32:32.250
Europe and it's fine. I remember I took a test

02:32:32.250 --> 02:32:35.190
finally and it was like one of those internet

02:32:35.190 --> 02:32:38.629
blood test things. And I came up allergic to

02:32:38.629 --> 02:32:41.670
not even the gluten. It's like Glydian, which

02:32:41.670 --> 02:32:43.950
is like another protein inside of wheat, which

02:32:43.950 --> 02:32:45.409
I don't know if it's that same thing or what.

02:32:45.469 --> 02:32:47.920
It's just like an allergy to it. I showed it

02:32:47.920 --> 02:32:50.520
to Shane. It was moderate. And he goes, moderate?

02:32:50.840 --> 02:32:55.260
You're a pussy. Have a pizza. I was like, fuck.

02:32:55.459 --> 02:32:57.739
Why did I show you? Everyone's like, it's fake.

02:32:57.799 --> 02:32:59.520
It's in your head. You're full of shit. So I

02:32:59.520 --> 02:33:00.979
finally have proof. I'm like, what are you going

02:33:00.979 --> 02:33:03.120
to do about it now? He goes, moderate? Pussy.

02:33:03.280 --> 02:33:06.120
I'm like, fuck. It's one of the worst intolerances

02:33:06.120 --> 02:33:09.159
to have because the food is so delicious. Think

02:33:09.159 --> 02:33:13.020
about it. Spaghetti, lasagna, bread, sandwiches.

02:33:14.120 --> 02:33:16.639
I don't, and eating the gluten -free bread is

02:33:16.639 --> 02:33:18.600
like not, it's not, at that point you just go

02:33:18.600 --> 02:33:20.479
like, I'm not eating bread. It's not really good.

02:33:20.780 --> 02:33:22.799
In order to make it good, you have to put so

02:33:22.799 --> 02:33:24.459
much shit in it that you're like, I might as

02:33:24.459 --> 02:33:26.399
well not eat it. I've been off gluten since I

02:33:26.399 --> 02:33:29.260
was like 21. Wow. And then anytime I would like

02:33:29.260 --> 02:33:31.079
backslide at a restaurant where they cook with

02:33:31.079 --> 02:33:33.100
it and stuff, it would, you know, fuck me up.

02:33:33.100 --> 02:33:34.700
Weirdly enough though, if I get enough sunlight,

02:33:34.920 --> 02:33:38.280
I, it like my, I can tolerate a lot more stuff.

02:33:38.950 --> 02:33:41.610
I guarantee that's a vitamin D thing. I don't

02:33:41.610 --> 02:33:43.629
know. It's weird, man. Every time I go to a doctor,

02:33:43.709 --> 02:33:45.190
they're just like, bro, I don't know what to

02:33:45.190 --> 02:33:47.030
tell you. Well, vitamin D is good for your immune

02:33:47.030 --> 02:33:49.409
system, and these are autoimmune issues. It makes

02:33:49.409 --> 02:33:52.409
sense that they would kind of be connected somehow

02:33:52.409 --> 02:33:54.510
or another. Yeah, because I couldn't eat. After

02:33:54.510 --> 02:33:56.149
the gluten, it was like then I couldn't eat dairy,

02:33:56.209 --> 02:33:57.930
and then every time I'd get sunlight, I could

02:33:57.930 --> 02:33:59.309
eat the dairy. It's fucking weird. I don't know.

02:33:59.430 --> 02:34:01.750
That's just the sunlight thing. For so long,

02:34:01.829 --> 02:34:03.899
people were saying, stay out of the sun. Sun's

02:34:03.899 --> 02:34:05.459
going to kill you. It's crazy. And now they're

02:34:05.459 --> 02:34:07.100
going, no, no, no, you need to get in the sun

02:34:07.100 --> 02:34:10.780
or you're going to die. I know. What's the new,

02:34:10.799 --> 02:34:13.319
we got the new food pyramid now. I know. Well,

02:34:13.379 --> 02:34:16.319
a lot of people are so angry. They're so angry

02:34:16.319 --> 02:34:18.520
at RFK Jr. for flipping the food pyramid. But

02:34:18.520 --> 02:34:20.799
there's so much evidence that this is the accurate

02:34:20.799 --> 02:34:22.700
way to eat. This is the way people are supposed

02:34:22.700 --> 02:34:25.020
to be eating. It's like whole foods, like actual

02:34:25.020 --> 02:34:27.899
food, like vegetables, meat, fish. That's what

02:34:27.899 --> 02:34:29.540
you're supposed to eat, like actual food that

02:34:29.540 --> 02:34:31.100
people have been eating for thousands of years.

02:34:31.479 --> 02:34:33.200
That's how you're supposed to eat. Dude, that's

02:34:33.200 --> 02:34:35.600
the stuff, the backlash against them that I'm

02:34:35.600 --> 02:34:37.440
like, I don't get it, man. It's like getting

02:34:37.440 --> 02:34:39.500
the weird shit out of foods that they don't have

02:34:39.500 --> 02:34:42.209
in Europe in schools and stuff. That was always

02:34:42.209 --> 02:34:44.290
the left -wing's position. I do. It was like,

02:34:44.290 --> 02:34:47.030
no preservatives, no additives, natural foods.

02:34:47.049 --> 02:34:49.049
I know. And that's the thing, too. Like, I love,

02:34:49.149 --> 02:34:50.770
like, because I have all these food allergies.

02:34:50.770 --> 02:34:53.290
So, like, I got to go to, like, a hipstery kind

02:34:53.290 --> 02:34:55.430
of, like, rainbow flag restaurant. That's the

02:34:55.430 --> 02:34:57.069
only place I can eat from. So I'm like, I know

02:34:57.069 --> 02:34:58.610
you guys like this. Why are you pretending to

02:34:58.610 --> 02:35:00.989
not like getting rid of, like, Red 40 and all

02:35:00.989 --> 02:35:02.709
that shit? Because it's connected with Trump.

02:35:03.120 --> 02:35:06.479
because RFK Jr. is a part of this party, a part

02:35:06.479 --> 02:35:09.520
of this administration. And so it became a political

02:35:09.520 --> 02:35:11.459
thing. People were just so silly. They'd rather

02:35:11.459 --> 02:35:14.000
commit suicide. They'd rather poison themselves

02:35:14.000 --> 02:35:16.299
than admit that he's right. It's insane. Just

02:35:16.299 --> 02:35:17.399
be like, dude, just give him one and be like,

02:35:17.459 --> 02:35:19.319
all right, that's actually a good one. But it's

02:35:19.319 --> 02:35:23.920
that resistance to recognizing maybe this person

02:35:23.920 --> 02:35:26.459
that I don't agree with because he's connected

02:35:26.459 --> 02:35:27.899
to this other person that I don't agree with,

02:35:27.979 --> 02:35:31.420
maybe he's got some good points. Maybe if a person

02:35:31.420 --> 02:35:35.090
that was like, someone that I aligned with ideologically

02:35:35.090 --> 02:35:38.629
had the same points, I would be like, yes, thank

02:35:38.629 --> 02:35:41.489
you. Yes, these preservatives are terrible. Yes,

02:35:41.569 --> 02:35:43.829
these dyes are terrible. Yes, this is bad for

02:35:43.829 --> 02:35:45.850
you. Yes, you should have warning labels. Yes,

02:35:45.950 --> 02:35:48.149
other countries have banned these products. Why

02:35:48.149 --> 02:35:50.850
do we have them? Yes. Dude, and especially if

02:35:50.850 --> 02:35:52.850
you have kids, it's like, dude, you worry more

02:35:52.850 --> 02:35:55.010
about that than your kids not eating a bunch

02:35:55.010 --> 02:35:57.329
of crazy bullshit. Yeah. It's like, dude, just

02:35:57.329 --> 02:35:59.670
let it go. You can be like, all right, I don't

02:35:59.670 --> 02:36:01.649
like this, but that's fucking right. I like that.

02:36:01.729 --> 02:36:04.549
Let's let them cook on that. So many people that

02:36:04.549 --> 02:36:06.950
aren't religion, don't have religion in their

02:36:06.950 --> 02:36:11.550
life, they worship science. Like science. They

02:36:11.550 --> 02:36:14.829
treat it as if this is like a doctrine and a

02:36:14.829 --> 02:36:16.950
dogma. And if you don't support it, you're a

02:36:16.950 --> 02:36:20.590
heretic. There's something wrong with you. Do

02:36:20.590 --> 02:36:22.489
you know those people, these scientists? Like

02:36:22.489 --> 02:36:24.049
a lot of them are fucking severely compromised.

02:36:24.489 --> 02:36:26.610
They're compromised by financial incentives.

02:36:26.790 --> 02:36:29.370
They're compromised by academic incentives. They're

02:36:29.370 --> 02:36:31.569
trapped in these systems where you're forced

02:36:31.569 --> 02:36:34.850
to have groupthink. You have this top -down control.

02:36:35.010 --> 02:36:36.729
The people that are at the top are controlled

02:36:36.729 --> 02:36:39.229
and connected to these pharmaceutical drug companies.

02:36:39.389 --> 02:36:41.489
They're pushing these ideas. Like this isn't

02:36:41.489 --> 02:36:43.329
all clean. They're hanging with Epstein too.

02:36:44.069 --> 02:36:46.090
I know. Isn't that crazy? He loved scientists,

02:36:46.229 --> 02:36:47.750
man. He did. Thank God I wasn't a scientist.

02:36:47.870 --> 02:36:49.610
Isn't that weird? Yeah, dude. That's so weird.

02:36:49.799 --> 02:36:51.879
It's so fucking creepy. Yeah. And the science,

02:36:51.879 --> 02:36:54.399
dude, the science shit is like, I do know this

02:36:54.399 --> 02:36:56.979
from going to a master's. I know you need to

02:36:56.979 --> 02:36:59.719
understand statistics. You need like a very serious

02:36:59.719 --> 02:37:01.760
understanding of statistics to actually make

02:37:01.760 --> 02:37:04.379
sense of those studies. And I never was able

02:37:04.379 --> 02:37:06.500
to do that, but it's like, you can read those

02:37:06.500 --> 02:37:08.020
studies and like, oh, look at this. It's a graph.

02:37:08.260 --> 02:37:09.739
Everything's going up. And it's like, yeah, but

02:37:09.739 --> 02:37:12.979
like. What was like the percentage of this? And

02:37:12.979 --> 02:37:15.340
it's like statistics is for real like magic to

02:37:15.340 --> 02:37:17.639
me where it's like it's so slippery and weird

02:37:17.639 --> 02:37:19.659
and like you can make one thing look this way

02:37:19.659 --> 02:37:21.860
and you can arrange the data in a different way.

02:37:21.899 --> 02:37:23.239
And you're like, oh, shit, the fucking thing

02:37:23.239 --> 02:37:25.399
went up and now this is better. Well, that's

02:37:25.399 --> 02:37:27.420
what pharmaceutical drug companies do for sure.

02:37:27.579 --> 02:37:31.219
They'll run multiple studies and then throw out

02:37:31.219 --> 02:37:34.500
all the ones that show no efficacy and even hide

02:37:34.500 --> 02:37:37.250
dangerous side effects. They hide them. Yeah,

02:37:37.270 --> 02:37:39.030
I think they're allowed to do as many. I remember

02:37:39.030 --> 02:37:40.950
reading a book on antidepressants like years

02:37:40.950 --> 02:37:42.590
and years ago, and I think they were allowed

02:37:42.590 --> 02:37:46.430
to do as many studies as it needed to show basically

02:37:46.430 --> 02:37:48.510
what they wanted to say, which wasn't even good.

02:37:48.590 --> 02:37:52.389
It was like 50%. We had a lawyer in here that

02:37:52.389 --> 02:37:55.569
he'd worked on cases with pharmaceutical drug

02:37:55.569 --> 02:37:56.750
companies, and one of the things that he said

02:37:56.750 --> 02:37:59.530
that was really crazy was... He found out that

02:37:59.530 --> 02:38:02.370
the pharmaceutical drug companies, when they

02:38:02.370 --> 02:38:04.110
get peer -reviewed, when their papers get peer

02:38:04.110 --> 02:38:06.649
-reviewed, they don't have to give the data to

02:38:06.649 --> 02:38:10.069
the scientists. They give their review of the

02:38:10.069 --> 02:38:13.030
data to the scientists, and then it gets peer

02:38:13.030 --> 02:38:15.969
-reviewed. Damn. Yeah. That's fucked up. It's

02:38:15.969 --> 02:38:18.350
like rigged. Yeah, that's crazy. It's so rigged.

02:38:18.350 --> 02:38:19.670
Remember the study that was like, if you drink

02:38:19.670 --> 02:38:21.250
one glass of wine, you're going to be healthy?

02:38:21.389 --> 02:38:23.610
Yeah. That was complete bullshit. That was made

02:38:23.610 --> 02:38:26.049
by a body of science that was promoted by the

02:38:26.049 --> 02:38:28.579
big alcohol companies. it was completely false

02:38:28.579 --> 02:38:30.719
i know so many people who are like dude it's

02:38:30.719 --> 02:38:34.079
good for me I need alcohol every day. They were

02:38:34.079 --> 02:38:36.200
also saying resveratrol. That was one. Yeah,

02:38:36.200 --> 02:38:38.040
grape shit. And it's also just like, eat a fucking

02:38:38.040 --> 02:38:40.799
grape then. Well, also, take resveratrol. It's

02:38:40.799 --> 02:38:43.139
a good supplement. And the amount that you get

02:38:43.139 --> 02:38:45.639
in supplements is like far exceeds a glass of

02:38:45.639 --> 02:38:47.540
wine. You have to drink the whole bottle. Yeah,

02:38:47.540 --> 02:38:49.620
true. And then you're hammered. And you're drunk.

02:38:49.860 --> 02:38:53.520
Your liver's destroyed. Yeah, that shit always

02:38:53.520 --> 02:38:55.719
threw me off. And I remember at the time being

02:38:55.719 --> 02:38:58.790
like, there's no fucking way. That's true. No,

02:38:59.030 --> 02:39:01.450
you hang out more and you're less lonely. I think

02:39:01.450 --> 02:39:04.549
there's something to the relaxation of alcohol

02:39:04.549 --> 02:39:07.409
that at least it makes you feel better. And I

02:39:07.409 --> 02:39:10.950
think feeling better is a part of having a better

02:39:10.950 --> 02:39:14.790
life and having a healthier mind. Because there's

02:39:14.790 --> 02:39:17.090
something about people that are just riddled

02:39:17.090 --> 02:39:19.049
with anxiety and thinking about things all the

02:39:19.049 --> 02:39:20.309
time. There's a lot of people out there that

02:39:20.309 --> 02:39:23.190
are just, they don't have the tools to navigate

02:39:23.190 --> 02:39:26.299
this. fucked up world and so they're all a little

02:39:26.299 --> 02:39:29.239
drinky poo every now and then maybe not bad for

02:39:29.239 --> 02:39:31.799
them maybe a little just fuck it juice like yeah

02:39:31.799 --> 02:39:35.159
true if you drop the cortisol at night a little

02:39:35.159 --> 02:39:37.540
bit a little relaxation there's a lot of people

02:39:37.540 --> 02:39:39.639
that like one of the only things keeping them

02:39:39.639 --> 02:39:41.959
hanging on is a drink at night you know just

02:39:41.959 --> 02:39:44.700
a little drink just nothing crazy yeah getting

02:39:44.700 --> 02:39:47.059
killing yourself yeah i wouldn't want to take

02:39:47.059 --> 02:39:48.819
that from somebody either Yeah, I don't want

02:39:48.819 --> 02:39:49.760
to take that from people. Yeah, that's true.

02:39:49.819 --> 02:39:52.079
I wouldn't want to take that, but it's just nuts

02:39:52.079 --> 02:39:53.459
to be like, this is actually really good for

02:39:53.459 --> 02:39:55.440
you. It's like, well, it's lesser of two evils

02:39:55.440 --> 02:39:57.620
for sure. Remember when they tried to say that

02:39:57.620 --> 02:40:00.860
fruit loops were healthier for you than ground

02:40:00.860 --> 02:40:03.420
beef? Wasn't that one of the studies? Was it

02:40:03.420 --> 02:40:06.860
really? They had comparisons. They had a chart

02:40:06.860 --> 02:40:10.860
where things fit on the healthy versus not healthy.

02:40:11.139 --> 02:40:13.469
That's fucking insane. Well, the old food pyramid

02:40:13.469 --> 02:40:16.309
was the best. It was like cereal, bread, and

02:40:16.309 --> 02:40:17.989
pasta. That was what you're supposed to eat.

02:40:17.989 --> 02:40:20.190
That's the base. That's most of your food. You're

02:40:20.190 --> 02:40:21.989
supposed to be charged on just fucking elbow

02:40:21.989 --> 02:40:26.270
macaroni. It was for real. Growing up, that's

02:40:26.270 --> 02:40:29.430
what it was. Meanwhile, people in France, they're

02:40:29.430 --> 02:40:31.430
eating loaves of bread, and they don't get fat.

02:40:31.569 --> 02:40:33.430
I know. And they're healthy. I know. That is

02:40:33.430 --> 02:40:35.889
fucking weird, man. We're getting poisoned. Yeah.

02:40:36.149 --> 02:40:37.530
Everyone who comes here from another country

02:40:37.530 --> 02:40:40.090
is like, I feel horrible. I know. They have a

02:40:40.090 --> 02:40:41.989
hot dog and they're fucking vomiting in the trash

02:40:41.989 --> 02:40:48.010
can. All right, dog. Let's wrap this up. Can

02:40:48.010 --> 02:40:50.350
I add one more thing? Yeah, please. This is going

02:40:50.350 --> 02:40:54.370
around Wexner's deposition from the oversight

02:40:54.370 --> 02:40:56.209
committee. It came out like the full video did

02:40:56.209 --> 02:40:58.590
today. And there's this clip going around that

02:40:58.590 --> 02:41:00.549
I don't know what the context is. I'll show you.

02:41:00.569 --> 02:41:03.540
It's on the screen right now, Joe. Okay. I just

02:41:03.540 --> 02:41:05.479
want to play it and see you. It says, I'll fucking

02:41:05.479 --> 02:41:07.219
kill you if you answer another question with

02:41:07.219 --> 02:41:20.840
more than five words, okay? Answer. Okay. He

02:41:20.840 --> 02:41:24.000
seems like he's joking. He wants him to answer

02:41:24.000 --> 02:41:27.120
questions very short answers. I keep seeing people

02:41:27.120 --> 02:41:29.540
saying you're not allowed to be coached in a

02:41:29.540 --> 02:41:33.979
deposition. Oh, that makes sense. I'll fucking

02:41:33.979 --> 02:41:35.920
kill you if you answer another question with

02:41:35.920 --> 02:41:37.879
more than five words, okay? That's hilarious

02:41:37.879 --> 02:41:39.600
that he thought he could whisper that. That's

02:41:39.600 --> 02:41:45.520
crazy. That's so fucked up. But what is their

02:41:45.520 --> 02:41:47.440
relationship? Like, do they fuck around like

02:41:47.440 --> 02:41:49.200
that? Yeah, yeah. I can't tell. It's really hard

02:41:49.200 --> 02:41:50.639
to tell. It's hard to say what that is. That

02:41:50.639 --> 02:41:52.219
almost was kind of charming. I'm like, that was

02:41:52.219 --> 02:41:53.620
kind of, like, sweet, actually, in some weird

02:41:53.620 --> 02:41:57.459
way. Fucking kill you. His answers in this are

02:41:57.459 --> 02:41:59.200
pretty tough already, I can see. He's like, I

02:41:59.200 --> 02:42:00.979
had no idea. They're like, you're stealing money

02:42:00.979 --> 02:42:03.040
from me. ABC reported this five years ago. I

02:42:03.040 --> 02:42:05.719
was like, fucking crazy. That's news to me. He

02:42:05.719 --> 02:42:07.639
didn't know that Epstein was stealing money from

02:42:07.639 --> 02:42:08.920
him? That's what he's saying in some of these

02:42:08.920 --> 02:42:12.420
clips here. We'll see where this goes. Yeah,

02:42:12.440 --> 02:42:15.520
true. If nothing ever happens, people are going

02:42:15.520 --> 02:42:18.379
to lose all faith in everything. Yeah. If nothing

02:42:18.379 --> 02:42:20.659
happens from all this, if Prince Andrew's the

02:42:20.659 --> 02:42:22.760
only one who goes down, what if he just gets

02:42:22.760 --> 02:42:24.399
a slap on the wrist? He's completely going to

02:42:24.399 --> 02:42:25.920
get a slap on the wrist. He's not going to, like,

02:42:25.940 --> 02:42:27.459
fucking maximum security. He's not going to,

02:42:27.500 --> 02:42:28.899
like, Oz. He's not going to be in there, like,

02:42:28.940 --> 02:42:31.780
doing burpees and shit. He's going to be in protective

02:42:31.780 --> 02:42:34.100
custody. He's already out. He's only in jail

02:42:34.100 --> 02:42:36.840
for 11 hours. He's technically out now. Right,

02:42:36.920 --> 02:42:40.100
but he's going to be tried, right? We'll see.

02:42:40.510 --> 02:42:42.610
Well, see, the thing is, like, I never thought

02:42:42.610 --> 02:42:44.549
he'd be arrested. I never thought that would

02:42:44.549 --> 02:42:46.350
happen. I thought, like, they'd strip him of

02:42:46.350 --> 02:42:48.629
his prince ship or whatever it is. That's it.

02:42:49.329 --> 02:42:51.229
Banishing him to a... And then they kicked him

02:42:51.229 --> 02:42:52.930
out of the estate. I was like, whoa, things are

02:42:52.930 --> 02:42:55.350
getting serious. Yeah, I think they saw. I think

02:42:55.350 --> 02:42:57.729
they got to see the stuff. They must. Bro, what

02:42:57.729 --> 02:43:01.370
the fuck? They must. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's

02:43:01.370 --> 02:43:02.750
wrap this up. Thank you, man. It's been a lot

02:43:02.750 --> 02:43:05.829
of fun hanging at the club. It's been good times,

02:43:05.930 --> 02:43:07.829
dude. It's been awesome. It's fun watching your

02:43:07.829 --> 02:43:10.030
act grow, too. It's really funny, man. Thank

02:43:10.030 --> 02:43:11.409
you, bro. It's really great. And you're where

02:43:11.409 --> 02:43:15.030
this weekend? Salt Lake. Salt Lake City in Boise,

02:43:15.030 --> 02:43:18.409
Idaho. Go get some tickets, folks. Go see them.

02:43:18.430 --> 02:43:20.309
Matt McCusker, fucking hilarious. Appreciate

02:43:20.309 --> 02:43:22.290
you, brother. Thank you. Very funny. Bye, everybody.