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"Welcome to this curated educational transcript of the Joe Rogan Experience. In this session, we provide a deep-dive examination of the critical perspectives and historical dialogues presented in Episode #1733. Our mission is to offer a high-fidelity, searchable research resource for students of cultural history, emerging technology, and global discourse. This transcript has been specifically optimized for academic reference, linguistic study, and archival preservation regarding Music Industry Evolution, Entertainment Branding, and the Cultural Impact of Hip-Hop."
Joe Rogan Podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan

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Experience. Train by day. Joe Rogan Podcast by

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night. All day. First of all, it's an honor and

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a privilege. An honor and a privilege. No, it's

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my privilege and it's my honor. This is my motivation,

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Joe. Very few human beings that have managed

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to do as many things as you have. And to do it

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as... You've been relevant for fucking decades,

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man. It's incredible. Man, I work hard and I

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hardly work. I know you do. You do. But you know

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what the thing, the key to it all is, Joe? What?

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Everything that I do and everything that I've

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done has been based around fun. So the fun element

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has always been the key factor. It has never

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been money motivated. It's always been, man,

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this is fun to do and I love doing it. And then

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it was so fun that it ended up making me funds.

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Well, you've managed to make a career out of

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being yourself. Right. That's where it's amazing.

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Yeah, but that's the easiest job everybody got,

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just to wake up in the morning and do you. Yeah,

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but so many people have a hard time doing that

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publicly. Right, because it's so easy to want

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to be like something that's out there that feels

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like it's easier to do and it's more impressionable

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and it's an easy follow. But when you wake up

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and do yourself, that's just the organic thing

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that you were built with that you know how to

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do in your sleep. It's true, but it's hard for

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people to be themselves publicly. They try so

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hard, and they think about their image. They

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try so hard to cultivate something. I know because

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I've been around those kind of people that got

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to hide, and then all of a sudden, as soon as

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the lights go off, then they want to come hang

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out with you and let their hair down, and they

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start explaining to you how they can't. They

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can't. Man, I wish I could do what you do. You

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can do whatever you want to do. You're just worried

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about what people are going to say as opposed

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to the way you feel. I don't worry about what

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people say. As long as I feel good, I'm going

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to keep doing it. That's the way to do it. I

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think by your example, many more people can learn.

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They can figure out a way to live their life

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authentically. If it feels good to you, it must

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be good for you. What about heroin? I ain't trying

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that shit. We are never trying heroin, heroin,

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heroin. You got your own mic. Joe, I can't prepare.

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Quit playing with me, man. Don't fucking play

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with me, Joe. I'm prepared today. Give me a light.

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I can use your ashtray? Sure, of course. Okay,

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perfect. Thank you. We're family. Yeah. Get in

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there. Will do. I'm going to start off light.

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I'm going to start off with some. Flyweight division.

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What is this stuff? This is just some flyweight

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to get me going, you know, like watching the

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women fight. And so you roll blunts with, like,

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do you take a part of Swisher Sweets? What do

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you do? I used to be a Philly blunt guy. Then

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I used to be a Swisher Sweet guy. And now I'm

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a backwood guy. Backwoods? Yeah, backwoods. One

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of the little homies turned me out. You know,

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this is a young man's thing, but I hang with

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all of the youngsters, and, you know, they be

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pushing it on me. Hunk, hit the backwood, hit

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the backwood. I'm like, I ain't smoking that.

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And when I finally hit it, I just liked the way

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it made me feel. It was like it was a relaxer

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rather than me, you know, going to sleep or wanting

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to be too excited. It was like the perfect match

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for me, especially at the Asia, man. And so you

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just buy the cigar, take it apart, remove the

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tobacco. You do it all yourself. You just watched

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me put one together in 37 seconds. That's your

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thing. And you do know that. I do. I do. I learned

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how to smoke blunts from Charlie Murphy. That's

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when I first started smoking blunts. Charlie

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Murphy was a bad motherfucker. He was a bad motherfucker.

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When I started smoking blunts with him, I was

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like, okay, now I get it. I smoked a blunt with

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him in 1993 on the set of my movie Murder Was

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the Case. Wow. That's the first movie I ever

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was in, and he was the bad guy. Really? Yeah,

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it was the 18 -minute movies I did on Death Row

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Records. I went with my first album, Doggy Style.

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It was called Murder Was the Case, and Charlie

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was the bad guy. The shit was hard as fuck. And

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I loved him so much for just giving me off the

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intro. This is my first time acting and he was

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in my movie. And we, you know what I'm saying,

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hung out, smoked and chilled and became friends.

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And I just love the fact that he wasn't like

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trying to big homie me. Right. He was looking

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at me like, you know, you're a star now, you're

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going to be a star later. And I'm going to treat

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you like, I'm going to treat you now, I'm going

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to treat you the same way later. And we always

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maintained that great relationship. Charlie was

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an authentic human being. He really was. He was

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a... He's a rare guy who started doing stand

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-up after he was already famous. That's a hard

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thing to do. Look, I got a story. Me and Charlie

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Murphy had a TV show for MTV. It was like a story

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about me as a kid, and it was like cartoon. So

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we was on that. We was on the call with the MTV

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people. This is how he was talking to them. You

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motherfucking crackers can't tell me how to write

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a motherfucking show. Fuck y 'all. I'm the motherfucking

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writer of the show. And if you motherfuckers

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don't like, matter of fact, I'm off the phone.

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And nigga just jumped off the call. It was my

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first time being on a meeting like that to hear

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somebody just be fucking real. That shit was

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encouraging. You know what I'm saying? It made

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me want to do that, like to be real in meetings

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and not hold my tongue and sit back and let my

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people do all of the talking. When he drove that

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meeting and drove that conversation, that showed

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me that the best shit I can do is be me at all

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times. Well, Charlie was a man. At all times.

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He was a man. Like, he was a martial artist.

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He was a legit martial artist. Like, I had some

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great conversations with him about martial arts.

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And there was one time that it was me and Maury

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Smith, who was the former UFC heavyweight champion,

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and a dude named Ivan Salivary, who was another

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top -flight UFC guy. And Charlie Murphy was holding

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court. And he was telling people about how they

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got to respect the Chicago Ridge Hand, the specific

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type of ridge hand that Charlie was really good

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at. And he was telling them, and it's a legit

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technique, but it was just funny as shit seeing

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Charlie Murphy standing there holding court.

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There's the picture of it right there. That's

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Charlie. And the guy right to his right shoulder,

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that's Maurice Smith, who's a former UFC heavyweight

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champion. And the guy across that got his hand

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in front of his mouth, that's Ivan Salivary.

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And he stuck, he believed in the story. The way

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he got his hand in his mouth, that's like a teacher

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teaching right now. Well, he just, he was a powerful

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figure, you know. When I found out that he was

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sick and that he died, it was, it didn't make

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sense. Like, Charlie Murphy is... But he kept

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working through his sickness. Yeah. That's what

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I commend him for, that he was still showing

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up to sets, being seen, being heard, leaving

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his legacy so that way we could continue to see

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him while he was gone. Yeah. It's just... It's

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sad when we lose people like that, man. Yeah,

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especially a guy like that. You just don't think

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he's going to get sick. Like, how did he get

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sick? Well, you know, it's all God's plan, though,

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Joe. You know, we got to... Be thankful for the

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time that we had with him. And we both got personal

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stories and personal relationships with him.

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So that's all we can be thankful for is the time

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that we get with people while they're here. That's

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true. I mean, we only have a certain amount of

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time, no matter what. It seems like you got forever

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because you're in it right now. It doesn't seem

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like it's going to end. But it ends for all of

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us. And it's hard to keep that in perspective.

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But if you could, you'd be better off. Yeah.

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That's what life is all about. Living each day.

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You only die once, so you should live every day.

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Exactly. Oh, shit. You got to get that doggy

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-style jacket, too. Oh, my goodness. Come on,

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Joe, man. Come on, man. This is Christmas for

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me. I got to have you fall out to one of them

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big UFC fights in that right there. Dana White's

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going to love it when you wait. 100%. Dana's

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going to say, where's mine? December 11th. Say

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that. That's the next one. Now, now. I'm showing

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up December 11th for the UFC in Vegas wearing

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that. Yes, you do know that. Wearing that. Well,

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you know we only smoke fire, right? Yes. Can

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I play this song called No Bummer We? Yes. Because

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we only smoke fire. That's off that new album,

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Algorithm. It'll be in stores November 19th.

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Should we get a copy of it to Jamie so Jamie

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could put it through when we air drop it could

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air drop it to me right now Yep, what a wonderful

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world we live in I love it should show up if

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you just go to airdrop Somebody got to help me.

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I ain't that smart Have you ever airdropped anything?

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Yeah all the time, but it always get did for

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me like I'm gonna Huh? Fuck that me. I'm looking

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in the air for the shit to drop You know how

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to do it Joe I don't know how to do it off a

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laptop. See, with your smart ass. See, you talking

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all that shit and you don't even know how to

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fucking do it. I can do it off my phone. This

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is a song that's lit up. Me too, off the phone

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is easy. Yeah, I've never done it off a laptop.

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There you go. This man is smart. Who is this

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guy? Jamie's a professional. You motherfucker,

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you? Yeah, he's on the ball. Go ahead, Jamie.

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He's the GOAT. Jamie's the GOAT podcast producer.

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I'm going to call you Jaime. Yeah. You got it

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now, Jaime? I think so. You can play it whenever

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you want to. We can chop up some game and get

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back to it. You know what I'm saying? Cause I'm,

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I'm all of the above, I'm afraid of nature, I'm

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still P .P .O .W. Ain't a lot of niggas got what

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Snoopy got. Ain't a lot of niggas walk up in

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the spot smoking on that lemon drop. Four or

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five bitches and they body hot. Music make they

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body rock. Snoopy on that player shit. You or

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not. Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me,

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me, me. California drippin' in my low ride Hit

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the switch, bounce, then it go higher Def Jam,

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don't give a damn Rollin' backwoods by the drain

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We only smoke fire We only smoke fire We only

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smoke fire, Joe And don't give me no bam or wee

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And don't give me no bam or wee You know why?

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Tell them why Cause I'm That was amazing. That

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might have been my favorite moment ever on the

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podcast. That was amazing. We only smoke fire,

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Joe. Oh, my God. Yes, sir. Thank God for you.

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You know what people don't know is that, like,

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when they see me doing all of this, like, calling

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fights and calling sports and doing all of this,

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I guess it's called analism. Is that what it's

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called? Yeah, analyst. Yeah, when I'm an analyst.

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They don't know that I got my start with the

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show called The Contender, which was a Dana White

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show, which was a show where the fighters would

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come and they would fight to get a contract,

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so to speak. And one of the fighters that was

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on that show was Sugar Shane. And I see he came

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out and became a real good fighter. And I just

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think about how when I was on there with Uriah

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Faber and how we was on there just getting my

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style together as far as how to talk when I'm

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watching a sporting event. They don't understand

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that I got my beginnings from the UFC world,

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man. Y 'all blessed me. It was Sugar Shane. Sugar

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Sean, rather. Sugar Sean O'Malley. Bad boy. He's

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fucking phenomenal. When you were doing that,

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didn't that come out of you doing commentary

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just for YouTube videos and shit? Yeah, but the

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way Dana, he produced it. You know what I'm saying?

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I was just doing freelance shit, and he was like,

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nah, hold on. Come to Vegas, we're going to put

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you in the air, you and him. And then I was in

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there smoking like a motherfucker the first couple

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of fights. They was like, hold on. You can't

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be on the same. We got to build you a room off

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for the set because of the fucking rules and

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regulations to fight. And the smoke got to be

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in this section over here. So I was announcing

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we had our little booth where we had to smoke

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off for the set and watch the fight. That's hilarious.

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From like the booth. Because you could legitimately

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give someone a contact high. Oh, yeah, that's

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what they were saying. Yeah, for sure. But I

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thought the fighters wouldn't like that. The

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fighters probably, some of them would. Some of

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them would. But, yeah. When you were doing it

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with Uriah Faber, that was when Sean O'Malley

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made his big, that was one of his first big knockouts

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that people got a chance to see him, his style.

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It was so dope. You calling his fight, it was

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part of the fun of him sort of emerging into

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the UFC. That gave me the bug to be like, fuck

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that. You can do this shit, dog. Go ahead. No,

00:13:49.429 --> 00:13:52.529
anybody could do it. You know, if you ever watch

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fights with a cool friend, it's fun. Always.

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Or watch it with your uncle. Yeah, like, your

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kind of commentary is what most people want to

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hear. They want to hear people talk shit and

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have fun. Right. You know? Right. They should

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have, like, a regular commentary and, like, a

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shit -talking commentary. Yeah, like they got

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the Spanish subtitles. Yeah. Like, we're going

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with the Snoop Dogg version. Yeah, because it's

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entertaining for people. It's like you're watching

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it with friends. I'm trying to get some Super

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Bowl action now. Yeah? Yeah, because we're performing

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at the Super Bowl, but I want some of that in

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the box. You want to do commentary for the Super

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Bowl? I need a little bit of that. Just a little

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bit. Just maybe a half a quarter, something.

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Listen, you sparred. I saw you spar with Daniel

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Serafian. Yeah, now that motherfucker right there

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was trying to kill me. That didn't scare me.

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Hold on, nigga, I'm just in this. You're going

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to flash back and think I'm some fighter you

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was fighting against. But I was telling everybody,

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if Snoop is sparring with that guy, I go, that

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is a legit guy. He's a legit UFC fighter. Seraphian's

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a beast. Man, let me tell you the shit he used

00:14:54.379 --> 00:14:56.679
to do with me, though, Joe. He used to make me

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get on my back and try to get him off of me.

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The fuck is this? And then he got on his back

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and I couldn't get a fucking punch in. I'm like,

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man, this is no fair, man. But it was teaching

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me both sides of fighting. On your back, on top,

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stand up, all of the above. But the fact that

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you're training with these really legit guys,

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that to me was very interesting. Because there's

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not a lot of people that are - That get in there

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with them? Yeah. There's not a lot of people

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that are prominent show business people that

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want to learn. how to fight with a guy like Daniel

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Serafian, and you're taking that chance to spar

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with him, and you're filming it. That's pretty

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wild, man. Hey, man, let me tell you. Wiz Khalifa

00:15:36.039 --> 00:15:39.200
put all that shit in me. Wiz Khalifa used to

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weigh about 140 pounds, and I used to weigh about

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160. And we used to be on tour taking our shirts

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off and shit, and I used to have way more muscles

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than him. We used to be doing our shit. All of

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a sudden, this motherfucker started working out,

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and then we went on tour. He was like, hey, man,

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let's run to the crowd. He's doing all kinds

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of athletic shit. Then he took his shirt off.

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I'm like, fuck. I looked at him and was like,

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damn, he bigger than me now. What the fuck is

00:16:01.740 --> 00:16:03.480
going on? So I asked him. He's like, man, I'm

00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:05.659
working out. I'm breakable. I'm in the gym every

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day. So me, wanting to be just like he is, can

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I go in there? Got me a membership. Started working

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out, just training, lifting. And then the fighting

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element came to me. I was like, I want to learn

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how to fight better because I could fight, but

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I want to learn how to fight to protect myself,

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not to just beat somebody up, but to be defensive

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in case somebody needs some help. Did you ever

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do any martial arts before that? Only watch movies.

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Really? Yeah. You know, as a kid, you watch movies

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and you practice those moves and you try shit.

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We was those kind of kids. We would jump off

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of roofs and jump off of mattresses and all kind

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of shit. We didn't give a fuck. a lot of kids

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must have learned from movies, right? That's

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all we had. Just imitate people doing kicks in

00:16:48.460 --> 00:16:50.460
Bruce Lee movies and Chuck Norris movies. Joe,

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let me tell you this. When we watch a movie and

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we leave to walk in, as soon as the movie go

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off, a karate movie, we looking for somebody

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to fight and do karate moves on. Not regular

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fighting, but motherfuckers standing out there

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like this doing all this karate shit. When do

00:17:06.819 --> 00:17:08.279
you think that happened? I think it was like

00:17:08.279 --> 00:17:10.759
probably Bruce Lee introduced that. Bruce Lee,

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he was the fucking king. Yeah. All his movies,

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we definitely wanted to imitate him. And then

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the fucking Shaw Brothers, they had some good

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shit too. And then there was a couple of classics

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like Five Fingers of Death, Master of the Flying

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Guillotine. There's certain movies that just

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really hit in the hood that we really liked watching.

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It's kind of crazy that one guy and one particular

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style of movie created like a whole way that

00:17:36.880 --> 00:17:38.339
people wanted to fight. They wanted to start

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kicking people. Before that, it was like fisticuffs.

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Now you got to watch his legs now. Yeah, they're

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like one group of people figured it out. And

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Bruce Lee made sound effects a part of fighting

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as well. Yeah. Because you would never not do

00:17:52.150 --> 00:17:54.930
his move without saying, what's up? It's so attractive

00:17:54.930 --> 00:17:57.069
to people to fight that way. They like kick each

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other and shit. I remember I did that shit. I

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thought somebody was doing all Bruce Lee sounds

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and was getting my ass kicked. I was trying to

00:18:03.750 --> 00:18:05.190
figure out why the fuck this shit ain't working

00:18:05.190 --> 00:18:09.430
for me. That guy influenced a whole culture.

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I got a big -ass life -size statue of Bruce Lee

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at the front door of my building when he walked

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in with his shirt off with the three scratches

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on his chest like this in rare form. Oh, yeah.

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I'm a diehard. Yeah, he's absolutely the original

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reason why I got interested in martial arts.

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I lived in an apartment building in Newark, New

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Jersey. And one of the kids that lived downstairs

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from me, they had gotten to Bruce Lee. And they

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were telling me about Bruce Lee. And then we

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watched a Bruce Lee movie over his house. And

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I was like, holy shit. Wasn't that shit like

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when you, Star Wars, no disrespect. When Bruce

00:18:50.339 --> 00:18:53.000
Lee hit the motherfucking silver screen, fuck

00:18:53.000 --> 00:18:57.079
everything. Yeah. Right? As a kid. It was wild.

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Didn't he make you feel like you could do it?

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Everybody could do it if you could just learn

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what he knows. And the way he was calm, the way

00:19:03.619 --> 00:19:07.380
he talked. Don't you see a lot of Snoop Dogg

00:19:07.380 --> 00:19:09.400
and Bruce Lee and Bruce Lee and Snoop Dogg with

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the calmness and the be water? Yes. Just always.

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Be water. Yes. Yeah. Yes. I am water. Aquafina.

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He made kicking people exciting. I'm telling

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you. It's kind of wild. Kicking wasn't cool in

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the 70s until Bruce Lee made it official. Then

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it was a part of your fight style. Even the sweep

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kick, you would put your hands up and then you

00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:40.619
would sweep him off his feet. That move was real

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famous. A lot of people got caught slipping like

00:19:42.819 --> 00:19:45.039
that. You know what's crazy is the stuff he did

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in his movies was not the stuff that he would

00:19:47.180 --> 00:19:51.450
tell you to do for fighting. Right he wrote a

00:19:51.450 --> 00:19:55.289
whole book Jeet Kune Do he wrote this whole book

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of Like all of his stuff that he had learned

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from all these different styles putting them

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all together and trying to figure out what's

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the most useful. But he wouldn't have done all

00:20:05.670 --> 00:20:07.869
that crazy fancy shit. He would have been kicking

00:20:07.869 --> 00:20:09.750
your knees and kicking your legs. But I think

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that's why they didn't like him because he was

00:20:11.390 --> 00:20:14.369
trying to combine all of the styles and the teachings

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that he knew and then he was presenting those

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styles to people outside of the martial arts

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world. But they should be thanking him because

00:20:21.349 --> 00:20:24.640
it would have been just a cult. classic as opposed

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to it being internationally loved and respected

00:20:26.579 --> 00:20:29.380
now martial arts has grown into a point to where

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we got the ufc we got kickboxing we got certain

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things that you know people can you know prosper

00:20:34.960 --> 00:20:37.819
from it and really get off their talents well

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when we first started doing it you you had to

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stick to the style that you that you were practicing

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like you couldn't leave your style right like

00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:47.599
if you were a taekwondo guy and then you wanted

00:20:47.599 --> 00:20:49.859
to learn muay thai someone would be upset at

00:20:49.859 --> 00:20:51.619
you they'd be like you don't have to go over

00:20:51.619 --> 00:20:54.029
there and learn that Like, that's not better

00:20:54.029 --> 00:20:55.970
than what we do. Well, when I first watched,

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I fell in love with Hoyes Gracie. This motherfucker

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used to come out with a robe on and lay down

00:21:03.309 --> 00:21:07.190
and kick your ass. I'm trying to figure out how

00:21:07.190 --> 00:21:08.849
the fuck he got a... If y 'all don't grab this

00:21:08.849 --> 00:21:10.990
motherfucker by his robe and choke his ass out

00:21:10.990 --> 00:21:13.609
and pull the bottom of his robe up and take his

00:21:13.609 --> 00:21:17.579
little... string around his rope and tie his

00:21:17.579 --> 00:21:19.799
ass up with it. I used to just watch him like,

00:21:19.900 --> 00:21:23.000
this motherfucker is amazing. Then I met him,

00:21:23.059 --> 00:21:26.400
and when I met him, I'm like, damn, he's so calm

00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:29.019
and relaxed. I guess when you know you can fuck

00:21:29.019 --> 00:21:32.579
a motherfucker up, you just sit back and just

00:21:32.579 --> 00:21:37.619
enjoy life. Yeah. I think that robe was a trick

00:21:37.619 --> 00:21:40.380
in some ways. It was really smart because by

00:21:40.380 --> 00:21:43.859
wearing the kimono, wearing the... jujitsu gi

00:21:43.859 --> 00:21:47.559
he he made people grab him always they were grabbing

00:21:47.559 --> 00:21:49.700
that and that brought them to him right exactly

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and that's in his style you want to be up close

00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:54.980
and tight in there so what he would just smother

00:21:54.980 --> 00:21:57.359
these guys and they would they would grab onto

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it and they would be in his trap and then boom

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he would be on top of him like a spider just

00:22:01.579 --> 00:22:04.720
because him and shamrock was amazing yeah well

00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:06.480
him and everybody was amazing i mean he was the

00:22:06.480 --> 00:22:09.420
guy that introduced everybody to the idea that

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you could be a smaller person with superior technique

00:22:12.779 --> 00:22:16.759
and win a huge no -holds -barred competition

00:22:16.759 --> 00:22:21.359
with giant people. So in my book, he's top five

00:22:21.359 --> 00:22:26.559
UFC all -time great. Hands fucking down. It's

00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:30.440
hard to measure how important he was. He was

00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:33.819
so important. He made us who we are. It's hard

00:22:33.819 --> 00:22:38.369
to, like, what he did. By showing people that

00:22:38.369 --> 00:22:40.690
you could win with technique. Not with being

00:22:40.690 --> 00:22:42.970
big, not with being strong, but with knowing

00:22:42.970 --> 00:22:45.150
something that the other people don't know. Change

00:22:45.150 --> 00:22:47.829
what a martial art was. All of a sudden martial

00:22:47.829 --> 00:22:49.589
art became interesting to really intelligent

00:22:49.589 --> 00:22:52.650
people. They wanted to figure out how could someone

00:22:52.650 --> 00:22:56.829
who's more technical get over and overpower someone

00:22:56.829 --> 00:22:58.410
who's much bigger and stronger than them. But

00:22:58.410 --> 00:23:01.269
they can, like consistently. And Horace Gracie

00:23:01.269 --> 00:23:03.670
showed the whole world that. He's like probably

00:23:03.670 --> 00:23:05.789
the most important martial arts figure ever.

00:23:06.610 --> 00:23:08.769
Him and Bruce Lee. I would have loved to seen

00:23:08.769 --> 00:23:11.329
his father fight. Oh, my God. Because just the

00:23:11.329 --> 00:23:13.289
way his old man used to come out there with him

00:23:13.289 --> 00:23:15.650
with the sweatsuit on, like, you just knew he

00:23:15.650 --> 00:23:18.569
was just a shit. Like, if this my son, I wish

00:23:18.569 --> 00:23:22.190
a motherfucker would. Watch out, hoist. Let me

00:23:22.190 --> 00:23:24.650
get this motherfucker. Yeah, when he would come

00:23:24.650 --> 00:23:27.150
out with his dad. That was so gangster to me.

00:23:27.939 --> 00:23:30.480
Those moments I remember about UFC that stained

00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:33.039
my brain and was like, this is a brand that's

00:23:33.039 --> 00:23:34.680
here forever. When you seen that man come out

00:23:34.680 --> 00:23:36.420
there with his father, and then y 'all start

00:23:36.420 --> 00:23:38.240
running down the tradition of what his father

00:23:38.240 --> 00:23:41.220
meant to Brazilian jiu -jitsu and how they are

00:23:41.220 --> 00:23:44.500
the family that you're going to learn about and

00:23:44.500 --> 00:23:46.880
know about sooner or later. They're the greatest

00:23:46.880 --> 00:23:49.259
family in the history of martial arts, and there's

00:23:49.259 --> 00:23:51.440
not even a close second. Okay, hands down. There

00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:53.599
it is there. They're the greatest family. There's

00:23:53.599 --> 00:23:56.180
no other family that's had an impact like they

00:23:56.180 --> 00:23:59.369
have. So was Hoist the best, Gracie? No, his

00:23:59.369 --> 00:24:02.809
brother Hickson was. What? Yeah. And everybody

00:24:02.809 --> 00:24:05.750
says it. He says it too. His brother Hickson's

00:24:05.750 --> 00:24:08.230
a legend. He's been on the podcast a few times.

00:24:08.410 --> 00:24:11.400
Just before UFC. This was like during the UFC,

00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:14.539
but he was fighting in Japan and just his jiu

00:24:14.539 --> 00:24:17.839
-jitsu like was universally Regarded as being

00:24:17.839 --> 00:24:20.660
the best by everybody as he hoist big brother.

00:24:20.980 --> 00:24:23.440
Yes. Okay. There it is Yes, it makes choices

00:24:23.440 --> 00:24:26.279
big and then Horean's his other brother and Horean's

00:24:26.279 --> 00:24:29.440
elite that they're all assassins Their sons are

00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:32.640
assassins of it every like you can't be a Gracie

00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:36.859
son and not be an assassin Which which Gracie

00:24:36.859 --> 00:24:40.029
would be in the weight class of? My man used

00:24:40.029 --> 00:24:44.450
to wear the white wig. Oh, Khabib? That motherfucker

00:24:44.450 --> 00:24:49.630
right there. Any his weight class? Hoyler was

00:24:49.630 --> 00:24:51.730
close to his weight class, but Hoyler was a little

00:24:51.730 --> 00:24:55.569
smaller. Hoyler was like 145, and he's fighting

00:24:55.569 --> 00:24:59.769
at 155. But Hoyler was an elite grappler, too.

00:25:00.069 --> 00:25:04.079
Hoyler won multiple world championships. They

00:25:04.079 --> 00:25:08.839
were the whole family. Hodger Gracie, Henzo Gracie.

00:25:09.140 --> 00:25:11.640
My God, what a family. So Khabib, even if he

00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:14.000
had beat one, another one would have been waiting

00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:15.759
around the corner waiting on his ass. It would

00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:17.920
have been amazing to see Khabib in his prime

00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:20.259
versus a guy like Hickson in his prime. Yes.

00:25:20.559 --> 00:25:23.160
Just to see them grapple. Be fascinating. So

00:25:23.160 --> 00:25:26.259
Khabib's undefeated. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Khabib retired

00:25:26.259 --> 00:25:30.099
undefeated. That's fucking crazy. Not just undefeated,

00:25:30.099 --> 00:25:33.319
but never really in a close fight. There was

00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:35.339
no real close fights. He took on everybody, too.

00:25:35.400 --> 00:25:37.960
He didn't run from no fades. He took on everybody.

00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:40.799
He had good fights. He had good fights where

00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:43.000
people put up struggle, but eventually he gets

00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:46.500
them all. He gets them all. So is he top five?

00:25:46.900 --> 00:25:50.940
Oh, yeah. Yeah, Khabib is, in my opinion, greatest

00:25:50.940 --> 00:25:53.299
lightweight of all time. The other argument is

00:25:53.299 --> 00:25:56.119
BJ Penn and his prime. BJ Penn and his prime

00:25:56.119 --> 00:26:00.500
was... Fantastic. He was so good. He was fast.

00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:03.119
He'd get up on you. Oh, my God. BJ Penn, when

00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:06.319
he was like, if you go back and watch peak BJ

00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:13.119
Penn, when he was just, he had phenomenal power.

00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:16.579
He was ruthlessly aggressive. He had great jujitsu.

00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:19.440
Everybody was scared of BJ for a while. Right.

00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:22.200
Who did he take it from? He took it from somebody.

00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:25.180
Well, he beat Matt Hughes. He wasn't supposed

00:26:25.180 --> 00:26:27.359
to. He beat Matt Hughes in his prime. Right,

00:26:27.420 --> 00:26:29.819
because Matt was the champ, right? And he strangled

00:26:29.819 --> 00:26:32.500
him. He rocked him. Yeah, and he strangled him.

00:26:32.539 --> 00:26:34.619
And then he held on to him for a while. Yeah,

00:26:34.660 --> 00:26:40.019
they had some wars, man. He was an elite grappler,

00:26:40.019 --> 00:26:45.180
too. Just really, really good. And so it wasn't

00:26:45.180 --> 00:26:47.720
just his stand -up striking. It was his ground

00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:49.579
game. But it was also that he would fight anybody.

00:26:50.299 --> 00:26:51.880
He was geister, but he would get in there and

00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:54.579
mix it up. He was like a crowd favorite. He lost

00:26:54.579 --> 00:26:57.140
to George St. Pierre. George St. Pierre was just

00:26:57.140 --> 00:27:02.339
bigger and stronger and better, and he kind of

00:27:02.339 --> 00:27:06.880
beat him up. But the difference in size is pretty

00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:10.220
evident, and it just wasn't a good matchup for

00:27:10.220 --> 00:27:12.480
BJ. But that's just George St. Pierre and his

00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:16.900
prime was the best of the best. One thing about

00:27:16.900 --> 00:27:19.099
the UFC, that torch is definitely going to get

00:27:19.099 --> 00:27:21.589
passed. And when it get passed, it's all about

00:27:21.589 --> 00:27:23.529
who can hold on to it and hold it the longest.

00:27:23.910 --> 00:27:26.549
There's always somebody coming to get your ass.

00:27:26.710 --> 00:27:30.170
Always, always, always. There's some guys that

00:27:30.170 --> 00:27:33.509
can hold it off until they can retire. But, you

00:27:33.509 --> 00:27:36.829
know, if you just stay in it long enough, eventually

00:27:36.829 --> 00:27:39.529
someone coming up is going to get you. That's

00:27:39.529 --> 00:27:41.490
in everything, though. Even in the music industry,

00:27:41.569 --> 00:27:43.650
it's always been like that. It's a young man's

00:27:43.650 --> 00:27:45.849
game. That's why I'm surprised I'm still in it.

00:27:46.940 --> 00:27:49.319
Well, again, you're in it because you can authentically

00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:52.240
be you and people love you. You're like one of

00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:55.279
the most universally loved people. But it's because

00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:57.359
of what you put out. That's what you put out

00:27:57.359 --> 00:28:00.059
there. You put out love. And people love you

00:28:00.059 --> 00:28:02.960
back. Hey, man, put it in the air one time. A

00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:04.900
little bud for the love. A little love for the

00:28:04.900 --> 00:28:08.119
bud. Oh, I got to say it the right way. You know

00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:11.549
how I do it. Yes, sir. Big Snoop Dogg smoking

00:28:11.549 --> 00:28:14.549
live on the air. The Joe Rogan Experience. Austin,

00:28:14.670 --> 00:28:22.410
Texas, a bust. You bet you. You ain't never had

00:28:22.410 --> 00:28:24.750
a guest like that. No. Motherfucking microphone.

00:28:25.410 --> 00:28:28.450
It's just together, man. I need some alcohol,

00:28:28.630 --> 00:28:30.170
Joe. Can I get drunk on your show? Yeah, for

00:28:30.170 --> 00:28:31.730
sure. You got some clear? All that shit over

00:28:31.730 --> 00:28:33.210
there is brown like me. I need some clear. What

00:28:33.210 --> 00:28:35.529
do you need? What kind do you like? I like vodka.

00:28:35.710 --> 00:28:39.789
Do we have vodka, Jamie? What? No, what you got

00:28:39.789 --> 00:28:41.769
here? I'll do what you got. Fuck it. Let's break

00:28:41.769 --> 00:28:44.509
the rules. Mostly, we have whiskey. Oh, shit.

00:28:44.710 --> 00:28:46.670
Yeah, we have that wild Rysilla stuff, too, which

00:28:46.670 --> 00:28:48.549
is dangerous. What's that? That Rysilla is clear.

00:28:48.970 --> 00:28:51.009
It is. Oh, that stuff is ruthless, though. Yeah,

00:28:51.089 --> 00:28:52.589
I wouldn't want to give that to you. Oh, thanks.

00:28:52.769 --> 00:28:55.690
Appreciate you. It's ruthless. Thank you. It's

00:28:55.690 --> 00:28:58.509
like turpentine. You don't like that kind of

00:28:58.509 --> 00:29:00.130
shit, right? Hell no. You like vodka, right?

00:29:00.130 --> 00:29:01.869
I'm on some cool shit, some player shit. You

00:29:01.869 --> 00:29:04.750
know what I'm talking about? He said some shit

00:29:04.750 --> 00:29:05.809
over there that sounded like it was going to

00:29:05.809 --> 00:29:08.980
turn me inside out. What's that? Who was on that

00:29:08.980 --> 00:29:12.119
bottle? Let me get some honey shine. What is

00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:14.019
that? I don't even know what that is. Bring that

00:29:14.019 --> 00:29:19.720
over here. It look like my face on there. What

00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:24.240
the fuck is making a bottle of Snoop Dogg? I

00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:26.160
don't know what this is. Maybe some moonshine.

00:29:27.880 --> 00:29:31.299
Some moonshine with a dab of honey, huh? I don't

00:29:31.299 --> 00:29:33.240
know. You want to try it? Yeah, let me get lit.

00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:35.599
Let me get lit with you one time, Joe. There

00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:38.309
we go. I don't know what this is. Me neither,

00:29:38.349 --> 00:29:40.269
but here's a toast to the boogie, baby. Salute,

00:29:40.269 --> 00:29:47.029
sir. Blessings. That shit strong as a motherfucker.

00:29:47.470 --> 00:29:51.490
I think it's moonshine. Shit, this must be some

00:29:51.490 --> 00:29:53.390
moonshine out the motherfucking Duke boys truck.

00:29:54.950 --> 00:30:02.509
Enos must have made this shit. Shit. Ah, I got

00:30:02.509 --> 00:30:06.000
you. Shit. Moonshine is a thing now. You can

00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:08.200
buy moonshine. It's just hilarious. You can buy

00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:09.920
it for real. I mean, they used to have to bootleg

00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:11.779
it, right? That's how the Kennedys made their

00:30:11.779 --> 00:30:14.240
money. For real? Oh, you mean the daddy name,

00:30:14.339 --> 00:30:17.700
Pops. Yeah. Pop Kennedy. The Pops. A lot of people

00:30:17.700 --> 00:30:20.079
did. You know, that's where NASCAR came from.

00:30:20.380 --> 00:30:23.539
Mm -hmm. It was created off of that. Yeah, what

00:30:23.539 --> 00:30:26.160
do we got here? We got vodka. Both vodka. Both

00:30:26.160 --> 00:30:29.420
vodka. Well, this shit you just gave me in here

00:30:29.420 --> 00:30:30.880
is a motherfucker. That shit's sitting in my

00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.410
chest like a heater. I love it. You want some

00:30:33.410 --> 00:30:35.390
more of that? I'm going to do them both. All

00:30:35.390 --> 00:30:38.009
right. And people know that's watching this shit

00:30:38.009 --> 00:30:39.609
that I don't drink, but I'm with Joe Rogan, so

00:30:39.609 --> 00:30:51.029
fuck y 'all. Shit. Felt like I poured a whole

00:30:51.029 --> 00:30:53.349
bottle of alcohol in my chest. What do you usually

00:30:53.349 --> 00:30:59.150
drink? I drink indigo gin. I drink 19 Crimes

00:30:59.150 --> 00:31:02.650
wine or rosé. You know, I'm a player, Joe. Drink

00:31:02.650 --> 00:31:05.029
that shit that's cool. This kind of shit when

00:31:05.029 --> 00:31:06.470
I'm with the boys and we want to act a fool.

00:31:07.269 --> 00:31:09.529
But normally I'm on some player relax shit, making

00:31:09.529 --> 00:31:13.250
sure I'm in control. Is that brown? Brown and

00:31:13.250 --> 00:31:17.130
brown don't mix. Are you involved with that 19

00:31:17.130 --> 00:31:19.190
Crimes Wine? Is that something you do? Yeah,

00:31:19.190 --> 00:31:20.730
you know the plug was plugged. You already know

00:31:20.730 --> 00:31:23.109
that. Well, no, it's good shit, man. I buy it.

00:31:23.190 --> 00:31:25.329
You do? Yes. You won't ever have to buy it again.

00:31:25.609 --> 00:31:27.470
Well, thank you. Yeah, we're going to ship a

00:31:27.470 --> 00:31:29.509
gang of that shit up here. Thank you. It's very

00:31:29.509 --> 00:31:33.009
good. I bought it before. You know me, Joe. I'm

00:31:33.009 --> 00:31:35.049
just trying to diversify my portfolio, you know.

00:31:35.269 --> 00:31:37.170
I like it. Because I felt like, you know, early

00:31:37.170 --> 00:31:39.690
in my career, when I was making songs like Gin

00:31:39.690 --> 00:31:42.390
and Juice, I felt like Tangeray and Seagrams

00:31:42.390 --> 00:31:44.930
really made millions and millions of dollars

00:31:44.930 --> 00:31:46.789
off of me without me knowing what I was doing

00:31:46.789 --> 00:31:49.369
as far as promoting their brands. So once I learned

00:31:49.369 --> 00:31:51.710
the system and figured out that, wow, you could

00:31:51.710 --> 00:31:54.069
become a marketing and a brand ambassador, and

00:31:54.069 --> 00:31:55.829
you could also get some equity or either just

00:31:55.829 --> 00:31:58.650
create your own alcohol brand. Yeah, people blew

00:31:58.650 --> 00:32:01.410
up brands for nothing. they blew up brands and

00:32:01.410 --> 00:32:03.250
just we didn't know no better whether it was

00:32:03.250 --> 00:32:07.130
gucci whether it was nike converse whatever it

00:32:07.130 --> 00:32:10.809
was we did it out of the love of the brand and

00:32:10.809 --> 00:32:14.750
then the brand didn't understand that we were

00:32:14.750 --> 00:32:16.630
promoting for them so they should have just naturally

00:32:16.630 --> 00:32:18.890
said hey here's some money be a brand ambassador

00:32:18.890 --> 00:32:20.950
when we would come to some of these brands they

00:32:20.950 --> 00:32:22.410
would say we don't need you you're promoting

00:32:22.410 --> 00:32:29.529
us anyway yeah yeah it's a weird thing to try

00:32:29.529 --> 00:32:32.329
to realize when it comes to business it's called

00:32:32.329 --> 00:32:35.029
it's called show business joe so initially when

00:32:35.029 --> 00:32:36.730
you get in the industry you're about to show

00:32:36.730 --> 00:32:39.309
and the business takes a while to catch up but

00:32:39.309 --> 00:32:41.630
somebody like me that you know i had to learn

00:32:41.630 --> 00:32:43.730
the hard way i had to learn the show and the

00:32:43.730 --> 00:32:45.490
business fast that's why it's called show business

00:32:45.490 --> 00:32:47.170
when you learn them both and you'll be where

00:32:47.170 --> 00:32:50.250
you're supposed to be when when did everybody

00:32:50.250 --> 00:32:52.109
figure that out with brands and stuff though

00:32:52.109 --> 00:32:54.349
when did people figure out that it's better to

00:32:54.349 --> 00:32:59.039
just make your own brand Probably when Master

00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:01.960
P had No Limit Records, because No Limit Records

00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:03.940
was the perfect example of branding your own

00:33:03.940 --> 00:33:05.759
artists, branding your own merchandise, your

00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:08.859
own movies, your own shoes, your own tater chips.

00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:11.720
Master P branded any and everything that he wanted

00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:14.619
to, and it was all up under him. And he showed

00:33:14.619 --> 00:33:18.039
people how to be independent and create your

00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:21.119
own and not have to always go to the system and,

00:33:21.140 --> 00:33:23.339
you know, play on the field, but be an actual

00:33:23.339 --> 00:33:27.159
owner and a real, you know, decision maker. The

00:33:27.159 --> 00:33:30.079
business of show business. It's very hard sometimes

00:33:30.079 --> 00:33:32.119
for artists to think about shit like that. You

00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:35.140
just want to be free and have fun and talk shit.

00:33:35.720 --> 00:33:38.859
But then you realize, oh, you're helping another

00:33:38.859 --> 00:33:41.500
organization for no reason. But see, that's not

00:33:41.500 --> 00:33:44.079
what they teach. They don't teach financial literacy.

00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:46.359
They don't teach us anything that could help

00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:48.670
us on the business. you know scale and that's

00:33:48.670 --> 00:33:51.609
from athletics to entertainment you know take

00:33:51.609 --> 00:33:53.549
for example these college football players and

00:33:53.549 --> 00:33:55.650
basketball players they don't teach them how

00:33:55.650 --> 00:33:57.369
to handle millions of dollars so when they do

00:33:57.369 --> 00:34:00.009
get that first contract and they blow their money

00:34:00.009 --> 00:34:03.289
or do something crazy with their money it's not

00:34:03.289 --> 00:34:05.769
their fault it's the system's fault for not teaching

00:34:05.769 --> 00:34:07.970
because if you're going to if you're going to

00:34:07.970 --> 00:34:09.929
prepare someone to go to a professional field

00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:12.280
The first thing you do is teach them financial

00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:15.159
literacy and how to maintain that, not just the

00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:17.840
ability to be skillful and make money for the

00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:19.539
brand, but be a part of being in the business

00:34:19.539 --> 00:34:21.340
so you can make money for yourself because you're

00:34:21.340 --> 00:34:23.860
branding the brand. Do they have any classes

00:34:23.860 --> 00:34:28.239
on how to be a professional football player and

00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:29.619
manage your money? Do they have any classes?

00:34:29.780 --> 00:34:31.480
I mean, if you would think that if they have

00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:35.539
football at a university and it's big for the

00:34:35.539 --> 00:34:39.019
university. Do they have classes? They probably

00:34:39.019 --> 00:34:41.280
do. Do they teach the kids what to do if you

00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:43.199
start making money? I think they do, Joe, but

00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:45.280
I just don't think the awareness of it is actually

00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:48.199
being promoted or pushed like it should be. They

00:34:48.199 --> 00:34:50.539
push you more of the get on the field, be a star,

00:34:50.619 --> 00:34:53.179
get to the NFL, get to the NBA, as opposed to

00:34:53.179 --> 00:34:54.699
get in the class, learn what's going to happen

00:34:54.699 --> 00:34:57.159
with this money. So in case you do become successful,

00:34:57.239 --> 00:35:00.420
even after your career is over, you should have

00:35:00.420 --> 00:35:07.599
a business plan for life after ball. Yeah. it's

00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:11.659
hard for people to think about that, like when

00:35:11.659 --> 00:35:14.840
it's going to end. Imagine when these, for example,

00:35:14.900 --> 00:35:17.760
try a UFC fighter, someone who wins on the contender,

00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:20.119
and he gets a contract for three fights, then

00:35:20.119 --> 00:35:22.579
he gets another three fights, and now he's got

00:35:22.579 --> 00:35:27.179
$20, $30 million, and then two years later, he

00:35:27.179 --> 00:35:29.530
has zero. Yeah. Because he didn't know how to

00:35:29.530 --> 00:35:32.010
position it. Like, look at how Conor McGregor

00:35:32.010 --> 00:35:35.110
took his UFC shit and started branding and making

00:35:35.110 --> 00:35:37.530
money here and there and there and there and

00:35:37.530 --> 00:35:39.670
there and there. Like, but he's probably like

00:35:39.670 --> 00:35:42.929
one of the only ones. You don't see a lot. You

00:35:42.929 --> 00:35:44.969
know what I'm saying? It's like Tom Brady. He's

00:35:44.969 --> 00:35:47.570
a one -on -one. There's only one -on -ones. LeBron

00:35:47.570 --> 00:35:50.309
James, he's a one -on -one. But that creates

00:35:50.309 --> 00:35:52.989
an atmosphere to where some can follow. You probably

00:35:52.989 --> 00:35:54.510
won't be as high as him, but you'll be in the

00:35:54.510 --> 00:36:03.280
same realm. Yeah. Those rare humans like that.

00:36:03.539 --> 00:36:07.199
Those one -of -ones. Everybody's like, why? When

00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:09.239
you see a Conor McGregor, how the fuck is he

00:36:09.239 --> 00:36:11.920
so much more interesting? What's going on? What's

00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:14.340
going on when someone just blows up and you just

00:36:14.340 --> 00:36:17.840
want to see them fight more than anything? Do

00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.110
you know who Hamzat Shamayev is? Yes. That's

00:36:21.110 --> 00:36:23.409
another guy that everybody's like, I can't wait

00:36:23.409 --> 00:36:24.989
to see that motherfucker fight again. Can he

00:36:24.989 --> 00:36:26.869
fight again tomorrow? I want to see him fight

00:36:26.869 --> 00:36:28.849
too, Joe. Can he fight tomorrow? I fucking want

00:36:28.849 --> 00:36:30.710
to see him too. I don't know why, but I do want

00:36:30.710 --> 00:36:32.010
to see him fight. He's got it. Whatever that

00:36:32.010 --> 00:36:35.159
thing is, he's got it. It's that interest to

00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:38.280
want to learn more about him because he's entertainment.

00:36:38.780 --> 00:36:41.699
Yeah. When he's like, I killed them all. After

00:36:41.699 --> 00:36:44.400
his last fight, he's pregnant to me. I killed

00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:46.539
them all. I'm like, whoa. I'm like, this motherfucker

00:36:46.539 --> 00:36:48.699
sound like he's in Gladiators and shit. Dude,

00:36:48.699 --> 00:36:51.920
he's real. Yeah. That's really him, too. But

00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:53.619
see, like I say, the best thing you can do is

00:36:53.619 --> 00:36:56.449
you. Yeah. He's having fun doing him right now.

00:36:56.530 --> 00:36:58.849
And we're locked in because we don't see too

00:36:58.849 --> 00:37:01.309
many people doing him but him. Snoop, the word

00:37:01.309 --> 00:37:04.309
is he's even better than you've seen. The word

00:37:04.309 --> 00:37:05.929
is by people who train with him, they're like,

00:37:05.989 --> 00:37:09.809
dude, he is a fucking freak of nature. He's a

00:37:09.809 --> 00:37:12.550
freak of nature. He's really smart. He knows

00:37:12.550 --> 00:37:15.250
what to do. He's got sick timing. He's just like

00:37:15.250 --> 00:37:19.400
he's got a super genius fight mindset. You watch

00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.519
him fight. He doesn't make any mistakes. I think

00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:24.880
he's had three or four fights in the UFC. He's

00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:28.739
only even hit twice. He's that defensive? He's

00:37:28.739 --> 00:37:33.039
just a swarm. He's just a swarm. One guy he knocked

00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:35.199
out with one punch in the first round. These

00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:37.340
other guys he just gets a hold of and smashes

00:37:37.340 --> 00:37:39.659
them. It's wild. And there's nothing you can

00:37:39.659 --> 00:37:41.679
do when he gets his hands on you. It's wild,

00:37:41.739 --> 00:37:44.360
and everybody can sense it. So he's got that

00:37:44.360 --> 00:37:46.360
thing about him, and he's got that thing about

00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:49.280
him just purely from his talent. Conor has that

00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:50.780
thing about him because of his talent and his

00:37:50.780 --> 00:37:53.739
personality. Right, right, and his conversation.

00:37:53.940 --> 00:37:56.300
Yeah. Just when you hear him talk, just to hear

00:37:56.300 --> 00:37:59.260
somebody from that country talk, that shit just

00:37:59.260 --> 00:38:02.460
sounds fucking crazy, especially when they talking

00:38:02.460 --> 00:38:04.920
that shit. Like, you know that, I'll fucking

00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:07.260
take his fucking hand off and fucking break his

00:38:07.260 --> 00:38:08.860
fucking... His fucking bollocks. Yeah, like,

00:38:08.900 --> 00:38:10.960
that shit just sounds like a fucking movie to

00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:13.760
me, one of them motherfucking... Guy Ritchie

00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:18.480
movies. Exactly. Yeah, angry British men. They're

00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:22.420
the best sounding angry people. The best sounding

00:38:22.420 --> 00:38:24.500
angry people for sure. Conor's going to give

00:38:24.500 --> 00:38:26.480
you a sound bite. You can believe that. That's

00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:30.699
hilarious. So true. I mean, and that shit talking

00:38:30.699 --> 00:38:33.039
just makes it so much more interesting when it

00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:35.099
actually comes to the fight. But that's what

00:38:35.099 --> 00:38:38.860
we love about sports is that you can talk shit

00:38:38.860 --> 00:38:42.480
as a fan and as a... person that's actually in

00:38:42.480 --> 00:38:44.900
the middle of the situation. Yeah. And that's

00:38:44.900 --> 00:38:48.380
what we love about the shit that we do, is that

00:38:48.380 --> 00:38:50.039
we can talk shit and back it up. And when the

00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:52.980
fight is over with, you know, it is what it is.

00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:54.940
We got to move on. Because I like when somebody's

00:38:54.940 --> 00:38:57.300
talking shit, and then they do the press conference,

00:38:57.380 --> 00:38:58.980
they do all that pushing and all that shit, then

00:38:58.980 --> 00:39:01.920
they get in the fight 20 minutes later, and he

00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:04.159
got his ass kicked. Yeah. And then you got to

00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:05.579
interview him. He be like, well, you know, I

00:39:05.579 --> 00:39:08.280
respect him now. You know, I got respect for

00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:11.309
him now. I love that when somebody earns their

00:39:11.309 --> 00:39:15.269
respect. Do you like doing that thing for a trailer?

00:39:15.449 --> 00:39:18.590
Do you like doing those fight cards and fucking

00:39:18.590 --> 00:39:21.389
around? You know what I like? I like being in

00:39:21.389 --> 00:39:26.670
front of a live fight talking that shit. And

00:39:26.670 --> 00:39:30.329
I don't have to fight. I like that part, you

00:39:30.329 --> 00:39:32.030
know, because normally, you know, in that environment,

00:39:32.110 --> 00:39:33.610
you'd be feeling like, man, let me go help the

00:39:33.610 --> 00:39:35.110
motherfucker that's losing. But I'd be like,

00:39:35.230 --> 00:39:36.829
fuck the motherfucker that's losing. That's what

00:39:36.829 --> 00:39:38.469
your ass get for coming in there looking like

00:39:38.469 --> 00:39:44.059
that. That's like we were saying earlier. Just

00:39:44.059 --> 00:39:47.760
regular people who watch sports, you get a chance

00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:50.139
to have a regular person give it to you the way

00:39:50.139 --> 00:39:52.260
that you would want to hear. And the way you're

00:39:52.260 --> 00:39:55.840
probably watching it at home is the way I'm giving

00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:59.719
it to you when I'm doing what I'm doing. Yeah,

00:39:59.840 --> 00:40:01.900
you're doing it like you would do it if we were

00:40:01.900 --> 00:40:05.059
hanging out. That's what people like. They like

00:40:05.059 --> 00:40:08.300
that. When I'm doing the UFC, I have to be very

00:40:08.300 --> 00:40:10.179
professional. That's what I'm doing. It's a more

00:40:10.179 --> 00:40:11.840
professional thing. But sometimes we'll do these

00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:14.920
fight companions where we just get high and get

00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:17.039
drunk and watch the fights and talk shit. But

00:40:17.039 --> 00:40:20.139
when you with DC, y 'all different. Y 'all break

00:40:20.139 --> 00:40:22.579
the rules. Y 'all be on some other shit. I love

00:40:22.579 --> 00:40:24.619
when you with him. Because if somebody get knocked

00:40:24.619 --> 00:40:26.840
out, you two motherfuckers are jumping up, falling

00:40:26.840 --> 00:40:28.699
out of y 'all chair or hitting each other upside

00:40:28.699 --> 00:40:32.099
the head or something. He is the nicest guy on

00:40:32.099 --> 00:40:34.639
earth. He's one of the nicest people I've ever

00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:37.539
met. And he transformed into a fucking great

00:40:37.539 --> 00:40:39.880
announcer, too. Amazing. He's the shit. Amazing

00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:43.500
announcer. Amazing. But he's also fun. He's,

00:40:43.500 --> 00:40:45.539
like, fun. Like, he had this little argument

00:40:45.539 --> 00:40:48.480
with Kamaru Usman. It was hilarious. Where he

00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:50.699
was talking about whether or not Colby Covington

00:40:50.699 --> 00:40:54.320
took Kamaru down officially. Because he was saying

00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:56.780
it's a takedown. He's a wrestling expert. He

00:40:56.780 --> 00:40:58.860
was a two -time Olympian. He's like, that's a

00:40:58.860 --> 00:41:01.579
takedown. And then so him and Kamaru were talking.

00:41:01.619 --> 00:41:04.159
And Kamaru was like, well, you know, I guess

00:41:04.159 --> 00:41:07.119
they judged it by how much control. He didn't

00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:11.800
establish control. And DC's like, two. Two points.

00:41:12.179 --> 00:41:15.019
Like, that's a takedown. He was going, dude,

00:41:15.139 --> 00:41:18.079
that was a takedown. Two points. But he's so

00:41:18.079 --> 00:41:22.340
lovable. So me and him do commentary. It's like.

00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:25.340
you know hanging out and it's informative too

00:41:25.340 --> 00:41:29.139
because man the way you guys inform us on certain

00:41:29.139 --> 00:41:32.889
in the ufc world You make it fun to listen to.

00:41:33.030 --> 00:41:35.269
It's not too complex. Like, a lot of times when

00:41:35.269 --> 00:41:37.730
you watch sports, they using big -ass words,

00:41:37.829 --> 00:41:39.070
and you don't know what the fuck they talking

00:41:39.070 --> 00:41:40.969
about. Y 'all make that shit easy to understand.

00:41:41.210 --> 00:41:43.670
Well, DC will break it down so the fighters can

00:41:43.670 --> 00:41:46.369
actually learn from, like, if they're in this

00:41:46.369 --> 00:41:48.630
position next time, what are they doing wrong?

00:41:48.809 --> 00:41:50.889
Like, he's giving points. He's like, he should

00:41:50.889 --> 00:41:52.889
have had his head on the left side. He should

00:41:52.889 --> 00:41:54.349
have been driving forward, and that's why he

00:41:54.349 --> 00:41:56.409
got stuck there. Like, he's, like, explaining

00:41:56.409 --> 00:41:59.050
as it's happening. And I like when it's happening

00:41:59.050 --> 00:42:02.900
how... Both of you guys are talking to the fighter

00:42:02.900 --> 00:42:05.280
without him hearing you, telling him what he

00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:08.500
should be doing. and how he got in that move

00:42:08.500 --> 00:42:10.219
and how he need to get his ass out of that move.

00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:13.159
He should have his legs around his waist. He

00:42:13.159 --> 00:42:15.159
should be trying it, and all of a sudden the

00:42:15.159 --> 00:42:16.619
shit happened. It'd be like, damn, did y 'all

00:42:16.619 --> 00:42:19.099
predict this shit? No, it's like there's certain

00:42:19.099 --> 00:42:21.880
moves in jiu -jitsu where you know a guy has

00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:24.440
to do the next thing in order to finish the guy.

00:42:24.579 --> 00:42:27.340
So you see it coming. The problem with those

00:42:27.340 --> 00:42:30.360
little shows is sometimes if DC's yelling out

00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:33.380
advice, they might be able to hear him. Oh, because

00:42:33.380 --> 00:42:36.159
it's that close. That Apex Center. Right. Because

00:42:36.159 --> 00:42:38.000
you did the one with Sugar Sean O'Malley. That

00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:40.039
was at the Apex Center, right? That's that little

00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:42.579
spot. It's intimate. You can hear it every day.

00:42:42.780 --> 00:42:45.320
So if you're yelling out advice, if you're Daniel

00:42:45.320 --> 00:42:47.920
Cormier and you're saying what the guy needs

00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:50.199
to do right now. You may be listening to him.

00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:52.920
He's listening. He's listening. He's right there.

00:42:52.940 --> 00:42:56.380
He getting choked all up. Yeah. Maybe if the

00:42:56.380 --> 00:43:00.760
guy just put his chin up. Yeah. Exactly. I mean,

00:43:00.780 --> 00:43:04.940
you're getting real -time advice from an Olympian.

00:43:05.659 --> 00:43:09.400
And he's been coaching wrestling his whole life.

00:43:09.579 --> 00:43:12.219
I mean, he's still coaching wrestling. So it's

00:43:12.219 --> 00:43:14.780
like when you see a guy like that doing commentary.

00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:20.219
So here's the elephant in the room. Which UFC

00:43:20.219 --> 00:43:25.179
fighter is going to handle Jake Paul? I don't

00:43:25.179 --> 00:43:31.340
know. I mean. For them to be like, to get free

00:43:31.340 --> 00:43:34.280
from a UFC contract they currently have, I don't

00:43:34.280 --> 00:43:37.079
think Dana White is going to do that. So nobody

00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:39.920
good enough can beat him that'll come over? I

00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:42.579
don't know. I mean, maybe if they thought they

00:43:42.579 --> 00:43:44.320
could make a lot of money and there was someone

00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:47.579
who was like a current UFC fighter and they could

00:43:47.579 --> 00:43:49.400
arrange it, maybe they could make some sort of

00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:51.360
a joint promotion, but I just don't see the UFC

00:43:51.360 --> 00:43:54.900
doing that. It doesn't have to. I mean, look,

00:43:55.000 --> 00:43:57.800
Jake Paul's killing it in boxing. He is. It's

00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:00.280
brilliant shit. I just don't want him to stand

00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:02.179
in front of Mike Tyson and look like that's going

00:44:02.179 --> 00:44:04.920
to happen. That's going to be Logan. That's the

00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:06.960
one who fought Floyd. See, when he whooped Logan,

00:44:07.179 --> 00:44:10.940
it's all a domino effect. Now go get your little

00:44:10.940 --> 00:44:15.659
brother. You know this shit. Come on, Joe. Quit

00:44:15.659 --> 00:44:18.800
playing with me, man. It's Mike Tyson we talk

00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:20.719
about. This is not a regular motherfucker. It's

00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:23.159
not a regular dude. And I don't give a fuck if

00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:25.639
he's 55. It may trigger his old instincts like,

00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:28.079
do you know that motherfucker's still in there?

00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:30.800
Snoop, let me tell you a story. The reason why

00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:33.820
this table's this wide, this is true. This is

00:44:33.820 --> 00:44:36.460
a true story. When I first moved to Austin, I

00:44:36.460 --> 00:44:38.880
had a smaller table that I was going to set up.

00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:41.079
And I was like, maybe I'll be a little more intimate

00:44:41.079 --> 00:44:46.300
with the guest. And then I had Mike on one time,

00:44:46.300 --> 00:44:49.139
and the first time I had him on, Mike was not

00:44:49.139 --> 00:44:51.219
training at all, and he said he can't work out

00:44:51.219 --> 00:44:53.679
at all because it'll ignite his ego, and he just

00:44:53.679 --> 00:44:55.539
smokes a lot of weed. And we had a great conversation.

00:44:55.539 --> 00:44:58.400
It was real fun. And then he came back on again

00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:02.699
to promote the Roy Jones fight, and he was jacked.

00:45:03.339 --> 00:45:05.719
His giant muscles in his forearms. Stomach was

00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:09.039
gone. And he looked like he was ready to go.

00:45:09.699 --> 00:45:12.780
Like, you could see the element that made him

00:45:12.780 --> 00:45:15.840
Mike Tyson in his prime had been, like, reignited,

00:45:15.860 --> 00:45:17.639
whatever it was. I'm like, no, I need a wider

00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:21.239
table. I was nervous in the room with him. Like,

00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:23.099
you could tell he's ready to go. I don't give

00:45:23.099 --> 00:45:28.210
a fuck if he's 55. Like 55 in 2021 is not 55

00:45:28.210 --> 00:45:30.650
from like 1988. It's not. It's not the same thing.

00:45:30.670 --> 00:45:33.010
Still fucking hurt when they hit your fucking

00:45:33.010 --> 00:45:35.349
head. You watch him hit pads. Have you seen him

00:45:35.349 --> 00:45:38.110
hit pads with Rafael Cordero? It's terrifying.

00:45:38.809 --> 00:45:41.489
It's fucking terrifying. Not terrifying because

00:45:41.489 --> 00:45:44.650
he's 55. Fucking terrifying. It's a terrifying

00:45:44.650 --> 00:45:47.829
human. If he was 21 and he was hitting pads like

00:45:47.829 --> 00:45:50.869
that, I'd be like, holy shit. This kid's a killer.

00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.099
Iron Mike Tyson. The fact that he can still do

00:45:54.099 --> 00:45:57.199
that at 55. And he's smoking weed, Joe, so he's

00:45:57.199 --> 00:46:00.480
probably in his best condition of his life. I

00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:03.079
bet he's going in there high. Why wouldn't he?

00:46:03.219 --> 00:46:05.139
Why wouldn't he? I think he said he fought Roy

00:46:05.139 --> 00:46:08.579
Jones high. I know for a fact he did. I believe

00:46:08.579 --> 00:46:12.599
it. Why wouldn't he? He likes it. Makes him more

00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:14.960
calm and relaxed. I walked through everybody's

00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:16.480
dressing room before the fight and made sure

00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:20.409
they had their pep speech for me. I think he

00:46:20.409 --> 00:46:22.309
was going to fight Lennox Lewis, too. There was

00:46:22.309 --> 00:46:24.309
some talk of that. Wow. But I don't know if that's

00:46:24.309 --> 00:46:27.150
real. Look at that fucking savage body punch.

00:46:27.329 --> 00:46:29.889
Jesus Christ. The pad, man, got to be heard.

00:46:30.610 --> 00:46:34.690
Yeah. I mean, there's some videos of him, Jamie.

00:46:34.889 --> 00:46:36.989
See if you can find a video of him. Oh, with

00:46:36.989 --> 00:46:40.929
that speed. That's recent? See if you can find

00:46:40.929 --> 00:46:42.690
one of those videos of him hitting the pads,

00:46:42.849 --> 00:46:47.170
because it's fucking horrifying. It's just amazing

00:46:47.170 --> 00:46:49.630
that he can still generate that kind of speed

00:46:49.630 --> 00:46:53.489
and power at 55 years old See what's gonna hurt

00:46:53.489 --> 00:46:55.949
is when he that light click on he gonna be like

00:46:55.949 --> 00:47:01.849
you the motherfucker that beat me. Yeah You're

00:47:01.849 --> 00:47:03.389
gonna treat one of the motherfuckers like Buster

00:47:03.389 --> 00:47:08.010
Douglas man when in the 80s when he was in his

00:47:08.010 --> 00:47:11.940
prime It was one of the craziest times ever for

00:47:11.940 --> 00:47:15.059
boxing, where fights just became like executions.

00:47:15.400 --> 00:47:19.659
Look at the Mike Tyson Snoop Dogg face. This

00:47:19.659 --> 00:47:28.760
shit. Oh, here it is. So here he is, 55 years

00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:38.969
old. I mean, come on, man. And, you know, you're

00:47:38.969 --> 00:47:42.030
looking at a lot of these videos. They're from

00:47:42.030 --> 00:47:45.110
months and months ago. And he's still training.

00:47:45.409 --> 00:47:48.289
So he's only got better. Yeah, he's getting it

00:47:48.289 --> 00:47:50.809
back. Muscle memory, right? But this is terrifying.

00:47:51.389 --> 00:47:53.349
Look at his trainer eyes. That motherfucker look

00:47:53.349 --> 00:47:55.130
like, you better not hit me, Mike. Hold on, my

00:47:55.130 --> 00:47:59.190
face right here. His trainer is a legend. Yeah.

00:47:59.659 --> 00:48:01.719
Got to be. Rafael Cordero's a legend. He got

00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:03.719
to be to stand his ass in front of him. Yeah.

00:48:03.860 --> 00:48:07.880
He's a Muay Thai specialist, but an MMA coach

00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:12.199
from Shoot the Box. Rafael Cordero. He's a legend.

00:48:12.400 --> 00:48:15.639
And he runs King's MMA. Oh, that's big. Yeah.

00:48:15.659 --> 00:48:19.179
That guy training with Mike Tyson is crazy. It's

00:48:19.179 --> 00:48:22.400
fascinating that Mike chose like a martial arts.

00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:25.059
He got his mind right. That's letting you know.

00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:26.699
His mental is different. Dude, he was terrifying.

00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:29.880
He's terrifying. The fact that Logan Paul wants

00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:33.159
to box him, it's like, wow. I can't believe they're

00:48:33.159 --> 00:48:36.000
really going to do that. I can. I'm probably

00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:39.920
going to be announcing this shit. Yeah? What's

00:48:39.920 --> 00:48:44.719
your prediction? Second round KO. Yeah, that

00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:47.320
kid's going to get hit for sure. Because Floyd

00:48:47.320 --> 00:48:49.840
was hitting him. Yeah, Floyd was hitting him.

00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:54.730
Floyd is, you know, only taken a small amount

00:48:54.730 --> 00:48:57.929
of time off, and Floyd's had those exhibition

00:48:57.929 --> 00:49:02.030
fights. Floyd's power is nowhere near Mike Tyson's

00:49:02.030 --> 00:49:04.469
power. But I was just saying that Floyd has been

00:49:04.469 --> 00:49:07.349
pretty active as a boxer. He fought Pacquiao

00:49:07.349 --> 00:49:11.269
recently. Went to Japan and fought. Yeah, and

00:49:11.269 --> 00:49:15.329
he fought the Japanese kickboxer guy, Nazukawa,

00:49:15.429 --> 00:49:21.820
Tension. He fought... He was fighting guys like

00:49:21.820 --> 00:49:24.719
Conor McGregor that we knew Floyd was going to

00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:28.280
beat them. But he was still active. Mike hadn't

00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:31.420
been active forever. Forever. He was getting

00:49:31.420 --> 00:49:34.900
fat for me. Yeah, he got real fat. Went vegan

00:49:34.900 --> 00:49:39.980
for a while. Yeah, he's, you know, that's a different

00:49:39.980 --> 00:49:42.460
kind of person. Shit, Mike in shape now. He look

00:49:42.460 --> 00:49:45.059
good as a motherfucker right now. He looks chiseled.

00:49:45.469 --> 00:49:47.809
His mind is right. He got some good weed. Got

00:49:47.809 --> 00:49:50.309
his motherfucking body together. I'm like, yeah,

00:49:50.329 --> 00:49:52.949
that's the Mike I like. Yeah, it's going to be

00:49:52.949 --> 00:49:54.570
interesting. It's going to be interesting to

00:49:54.570 --> 00:49:57.650
see what Logan can do to keep away from him.

00:49:57.869 --> 00:50:01.789
Well, I'm betting on Mike. All my money. Yeah,

00:50:01.869 --> 00:50:04.389
it just, the only thing you would have on Logan's

00:50:04.389 --> 00:50:08.570
side is youth. Youth. That's it. You don't sit

00:50:08.570 --> 00:50:15.380
your young ass down somewhere? Yeah, it's the

00:50:15.380 --> 00:50:18.199
level of skill. It's like so many magnitudes

00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:21.699
different. That's why it's wild. I got one more

00:50:21.699 --> 00:50:23.380
song for you. Would I put it in the airdrop?

00:50:23.539 --> 00:50:30.699
Yep. Did you get it? Did you get it, Jamie? No.

00:50:32.079 --> 00:50:33.980
What do I got to do? Highlight it and then put

00:50:33.980 --> 00:50:36.880
it in there? Yeah, drag and drop it on top of

00:50:36.880 --> 00:50:40.539
my name. Okay, what about that? Yeah, this is

00:50:40.539 --> 00:50:46.760
an anthem for me and you right now. I got some

00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:49.239
weed now in the time to blaze this shit up. Come

00:50:49.239 --> 00:51:16.760
on. world getting sicker every day i feel like

00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:21.300
it's about to end about to end i've been through

00:51:21.300 --> 00:51:23.599
this life i'm trying to separate the really for

00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:28.460
real and pretend all these niggas always look

00:51:28.460 --> 00:51:32.079
crazy crazy every day your mother lose a baby

00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:37.059
and every day a baby lose a mama and we all go

00:51:37.059 --> 00:51:43.989
to instagram for drama i like my weed Like it

00:51:43.989 --> 00:51:48.349
in the morning I light my weed For all the weed

00:51:48.349 --> 00:51:50.929
smokers out there In the long time November 19th

00:51:50.929 --> 00:51:54.510
I light my weed This single is out right now

00:51:54.510 --> 00:51:57.750
Jane Hancock Off of that album with the model

00:51:57.750 --> 00:52:01.969
Yeah, Jane Talk to him, Jane When I go to sleep

00:52:01.969 --> 00:52:06.269
at night Yeah Blaze that shit up What you waiting

00:52:06.269 --> 00:52:13.869
on? Yeah Dreams of me living life Gotta do great,

00:52:13.889 --> 00:52:16.429
I can't do average. I'm well established. You

00:52:16.429 --> 00:52:18.630
got some weed and gone and passed it. Different

00:52:18.630 --> 00:52:21.110
fabric. You'll be surprised who really acted.

00:52:21.230 --> 00:52:23.469
When it's what? When them lights, camera flashin'.

00:52:23.469 --> 00:52:26.489
I ain't gossiping with these birds, I'm on other

00:52:26.489 --> 00:52:28.909
shit. Niggas can't talk to me, stupid, cause

00:52:28.909 --> 00:52:31.070
I'm not that other bitch. Conscious with who

00:52:31.070 --> 00:52:34.309
I'm with. Thank God I'm talented. I gotta hit

00:52:34.309 --> 00:52:36.929
a right percent if you want my master rank. This

00:52:36.929 --> 00:52:39.429
time I'm betting on me, and I don't give a fuck

00:52:39.429 --> 00:52:41.840
if I can write these songs in my sleep. I told

00:52:41.840 --> 00:52:44.420
myself that it'd be over if I had self -esteem.

00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:46.960
And now I got it. I'm freestyling, but my style

00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:49.559
ain't for free. Just think about it. I do this

00:52:49.559 --> 00:52:51.699
for the ones in the hood that will never leave

00:52:51.699 --> 00:52:54.440
it. You can see this product from Richmond and

00:52:54.440 --> 00:52:57.139
believe it. Long guess is good. Go and do what

00:52:57.139 --> 00:53:00.039
you want. My mom and dad know. So I ain't scared

00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:05.280
to smoke my marijuana. All the weed smoking out

00:53:05.280 --> 00:53:09.460
there. Smoke it in the morning. If you're on

00:53:09.460 --> 00:53:12.059
your lunch break, smoke it on your lunch break.

00:53:12.659 --> 00:53:14.900
Get your smoke on real quick. Go in the bathroom

00:53:14.900 --> 00:53:19.619
or sit in your car. I like, I like, I like when

00:53:19.619 --> 00:53:27.760
my thoughts come down. I smoke. Jane Hancock.

00:53:27.940 --> 00:53:30.940
Off of that Algorithm album. November 19th on

00:53:30.940 --> 00:53:34.199
Def Jam. Live and exclusive on the Joe Rogan

00:53:34.199 --> 00:53:38.369
Experience. You bet you. Can I ask you how you

00:53:38.369 --> 00:53:41.050
create a song? When you're putting something

00:53:41.050 --> 00:53:44.150
like that together, do you write it out on paper?

00:53:44.289 --> 00:53:47.329
Do you just say it until you remember it? Jay

00:53:47.329 --> 00:53:49.269
-Z apparently doesn't write anything, right?

00:53:49.489 --> 00:53:51.909
Right. He just keeps it all in his head. Do you

00:53:51.909 --> 00:53:54.650
do that? Do you write it? When I first started

00:53:54.650 --> 00:53:57.610
out, my first album, Doggystyle, I got two songs

00:53:57.610 --> 00:53:59.769
where I just freestyle. One is called Jeeves

00:53:59.769 --> 00:54:01.489
and Hustlers, and one is called The Shiznit.

00:54:02.219 --> 00:54:04.139
Those two songs, I just went in there and just

00:54:04.139 --> 00:54:06.019
freestyled whatever came out of my mind and my

00:54:06.019 --> 00:54:09.139
head at the day. I've been good at that for a

00:54:09.139 --> 00:54:11.440
long time, but a lot of times I like to make

00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:15.380
sure that I'm pinpointing a specific topic, a

00:54:15.380 --> 00:54:19.480
specific cadence, and a specific style that I'm

00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:22.059
trying to perfect when I'm making a song. I'm

00:54:22.059 --> 00:54:24.900
not just trying to make a record for the day.

00:54:24.940 --> 00:54:26.019
I'm trying to make something that's going to

00:54:26.019 --> 00:54:29.639
be here tomorrow and the next day and the next

00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:33.079
year. So when you said you freestyle it, you

00:54:33.079 --> 00:54:35.159
mean like when you walked in, you really didn't

00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:36.639
know what you were going to sing when you were

00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:40.340
recording it? Well, the song, The Shiznit, was

00:54:40.340 --> 00:54:42.800
supposed to be a mic check. I was supposed to

00:54:42.800 --> 00:54:44.920
go in there and just check the mic. Mic check,

00:54:45.019 --> 00:54:46.980
one, two, mic check, and Dre put the beat on.

00:54:47.800 --> 00:54:52.420
Mic check, check, one, two, one, two. Hop it,

00:54:52.440 --> 00:54:54.920
stop it, hopping like a rabbit. When I take the

00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:57.320
Nina Ross, you know I gots to have it. I stay

00:54:57.320 --> 00:54:59.800
back in the cut, retain myself. I'm thinking

00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:02.380
about the shit, and I'm thinking, well, how can

00:55:02.380 --> 00:55:05.119
I make my grip? And how can I make that nigga

00:55:05.119 --> 00:55:07.920
straight, slip? Said Tripp, gotta get him for

00:55:07.920 --> 00:55:10.320
his grip as I dip around the corner. Now I'm

00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:13.679
on another mission, wishing upon a star. It's

00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:16.400
Snoop Doggy Dogg with the caviar. In the back

00:55:16.400 --> 00:55:18.840
of the limo, no demo for Sister Real. I'm breaking

00:55:18.840 --> 00:55:21.440
niggas down like Evander Holyfield. Chill, till

00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:24.619
the next episode. I make money, and I really

00:55:24.619 --> 00:55:27.300
don't love hoes. To tell you the truth, I swoop

00:55:27.300 --> 00:55:30.039
in the coop. I used to love. Man, come on, man.

00:55:30.079 --> 00:55:33.519
That was all a freestyle just going in that motherfucker

00:55:33.519 --> 00:55:35.019
and just spit from the dome, and it just came

00:55:35.019 --> 00:55:38.559
out, and Dr. Dre just made it work. Made it work.

00:55:39.619 --> 00:55:42.539
But every song is different. You know, because

00:55:42.539 --> 00:55:45.619
sometimes a song would come to me from just like

00:55:45.619 --> 00:55:47.219
hearing some shit or just being out somewhere

00:55:47.219 --> 00:55:49.059
and be like, damn, I want to make a song about.

00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:51.340
whatever I just went through or whatever I'm

00:55:51.340 --> 00:55:54.440
going through or whatever is the moment. It's

00:55:54.440 --> 00:55:56.940
always a different experience every time we make

00:55:56.940 --> 00:55:59.659
a song. So sometimes it's something that you

00:55:59.659 --> 00:56:03.000
actually write out? A lot of times. The song

00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:06.960
Murder was the case. I wrote that song because

00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:12.579
I was thinking about life after death. The song

00:56:12.579 --> 00:56:16.420
was initially called Dave, D -A -V -E, Death

00:56:16.420 --> 00:56:21.719
After Visualizing Eternity. And it was crazy

00:56:21.719 --> 00:56:23.639
that I was thinking of shit like that, and I

00:56:23.639 --> 00:56:25.960
had made a song called Murder Was the Case that

00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:30.420
was about me losing my life. But before I lost

00:56:30.420 --> 00:56:33.820
my life, I did cut a deal with the devil, but

00:56:33.820 --> 00:56:35.820
then God came back and gave me another chance.

00:56:36.400 --> 00:56:38.480
That was in my mind, but when I wrote it, it

00:56:38.480 --> 00:56:40.239
just became some gangster shit, but that was

00:56:40.239 --> 00:56:43.019
the premise behind it. And it was just in my

00:56:43.019 --> 00:56:44.719
head, like, I want to write a song like this.

00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:47.260
And then three months later, I caught a murder

00:56:47.260 --> 00:56:52.869
case in real life. Whoa. Yes. So my pen was actually

00:56:52.869 --> 00:56:56.389
writing reality. So I had to pull back from certain

00:56:56.389 --> 00:56:59.429
things and say, maybe I should start writing

00:56:59.429 --> 00:57:02.590
about life and living instead of always writing

00:57:02.590 --> 00:57:09.130
about dying and death. Whoa. Deep. Just think

00:57:09.130 --> 00:57:13.369
about my peers. Me, Tupac, Biggie. Like, just

00:57:13.369 --> 00:57:16.750
think about our records. The last records that

00:57:16.750 --> 00:57:19.650
they made, it was a lot of death. It had some

00:57:19.650 --> 00:57:22.650
life in it, too, but it had a lot of death in

00:57:22.650 --> 00:57:29.030
it. Yeah, that East Coast, West Coast shit, it

00:57:29.030 --> 00:57:32.829
became a real divide in the country with hip

00:57:32.829 --> 00:57:34.829
-hop, right? Yeah, it was, because you didn't

00:57:34.829 --> 00:57:36.949
want to be on the wrong side. And you didn't

00:57:36.949 --> 00:57:39.469
want to, like, for example, if you had friends,

00:57:39.590 --> 00:57:42.630
right, that was leaning more towards the East

00:57:42.630 --> 00:57:45.070
Coast, and you had a friend that really wanted

00:57:45.070 --> 00:57:47.050
to hear West Coast music, y 'all might have ended

00:57:47.050 --> 00:57:49.900
y 'all friendship. Yeah. Based off of that. Really?

00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:53.039
It was that serious. Yeah. How did it, it went,

00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:55.699
it kind of isn't that way anymore though, right?

00:57:55.940 --> 00:57:59.019
Mm -mm. What it was. That's good. Isn't that

00:57:59.019 --> 00:58:01.219
like a good sign for the future? That's a great

00:58:01.219 --> 00:58:03.559
sign. There's people working together from all

00:58:03.559 --> 00:58:05.940
parts of the world. Because like in the 90s,

00:58:05.940 --> 00:58:08.260
that was a real problem. That was a real divide.

00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:12.519
The divide was the, we couldn't control the media

00:58:12.519 --> 00:58:16.519
like we can now. So. Even back then, East Coast

00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:18.380
and West Coast used to hang with each other and

00:58:18.380 --> 00:58:21.099
kick it and love each other. But we didn't control

00:58:21.099 --> 00:58:24.780
the media platform, so we didn't have an Instagram

00:58:24.780 --> 00:58:26.960
or Facebook and none of that shit where we can

00:58:26.960 --> 00:58:30.239
slap up a picture of me and Nas and Jay -Z and

00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:32.159
this person hanging out. We didn't have that.

00:58:32.300 --> 00:58:34.880
All you had was the media saying, the East Coast

00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:36.639
and the West Coast don't like each other. Which

00:58:36.639 --> 00:58:39.840
side you choosing? Yeah. And that's just that.

00:58:40.219 --> 00:58:45.070
Yeah. It's their job just to sell newspapers.

00:58:45.610 --> 00:58:47.909
Right. And then once lives were lost, then you

00:58:47.909 --> 00:58:51.010
could blame, you could naturally say, Tupac,

00:58:51.190 --> 00:58:53.670
okay, did somebody have something to do with

00:58:53.670 --> 00:58:56.110
that from the East Coast? We don't know. Biggie,

00:58:56.110 --> 00:58:58.170
he got killed on the West Coast. That puts speculation

00:58:58.170 --> 00:59:00.170
that maybe somebody from the West Coast had something

00:59:00.170 --> 00:59:01.730
to do with it. So it just kept fueling to the

00:59:01.730 --> 00:59:05.650
fire until you had people like Puffy, myself,

00:59:06.110 --> 00:59:10.130
Steve Harvey, who were man enough to say, look,

00:59:10.210 --> 00:59:12.210
we need to put an end to this and let people

00:59:12.210 --> 00:59:15.039
know. We don't advocate that. We really love

00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:17.300
each other. We're a family. And we started building

00:59:17.300 --> 00:59:19.380
bridges and started doing things together and

00:59:19.380 --> 00:59:21.900
being seen together and controlling our own narrative

00:59:21.900 --> 00:59:24.099
as far as what we was putting in the public's

00:59:24.099 --> 00:59:29.400
eye. I'm glad that it ended because it showed

00:59:29.400 --> 00:59:33.679
that that's possible, that real disputes. I mean,

00:59:33.699 --> 00:59:35.320
think about the dispute in this country between

00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:37.940
just the Democrats and the Republicans. Like,

00:59:37.940 --> 00:59:39.500
what the fuck? I thought we were all supposed

00:59:39.500 --> 00:59:41.579
to be American. It's like we split it down to

00:59:41.579 --> 00:59:44.400
two sides of a country. And it seems like it's

00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:47.559
a similar thing. And I hope we could get over

00:59:47.559 --> 00:59:49.619
it the same way East Coast, West Coast rappers

00:59:49.619 --> 00:59:52.460
got over it. I know we can. That's real progress.

00:59:52.800 --> 00:59:54.960
One thing about the world we live in right now,

00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:58.179
Joe, look at me and you. Look at how we're doing

00:59:58.179 --> 00:59:59.739
this right now. You know how many people we're

00:59:59.739 --> 01:00:01.980
bringing together? By me and you sitting right

01:00:01.980 --> 01:00:04.500
here chopping it up, talking. We making peace

01:00:04.500 --> 01:00:07.780
right now. I hope so. I know so. I hope so. I

01:00:07.780 --> 01:00:11.099
know so. Because it's a ton of motherfuckers

01:00:11.099 --> 01:00:12.820
that I know that fuck with you, that love you,

01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:15.760
that suggested that I do your show. And I've

01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:17.420
been telling you that anyway. You know what I'm

01:00:17.420 --> 01:00:19.599
saying? I've been through all of my people, whether

01:00:19.599 --> 01:00:21.880
it was Burt Kreischer, whether it was whoever

01:00:21.880 --> 01:00:23.760
the fuck has always been like, Joe, what's happening?

01:00:23.840 --> 01:00:25.099
When am I going to come on your show? I'll always

01:00:25.099 --> 01:00:27.039
be like, what's happening, Joe? When am I going

01:00:27.039 --> 01:00:29.260
to come on your show? I just never wanted to

01:00:29.260 --> 01:00:31.559
bother you. Fuck all that. I didn't want to hear

01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:34.440
that shit. You're going to drop that soft -ass

01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:36.340
comment, I never wanted to bother you. I never

01:00:36.340 --> 01:00:38.159
wanted to bother you. Every time I see you, don't

01:00:38.159 --> 01:00:40.300
I bother you? Listen, man, you're one of the

01:00:40.300 --> 01:00:43.530
guys that I get legit nervous around. Come on,

01:00:43.530 --> 01:00:45.130
man. I've been a fan of yours for so long, I

01:00:45.130 --> 01:00:47.230
get nervous that you talk to me. Remember when

01:00:47.230 --> 01:00:49.329
Burt called you that night when we was doing

01:00:49.329 --> 01:00:51.489
the Go Big show? Yes. What did I say? What's

01:00:51.489 --> 01:00:53.889
happening, Joe? Can I do the podcast? Listen,

01:00:54.030 --> 01:00:55.849
you can do the podcast anytime you want. I just

01:00:55.849 --> 01:00:57.909
didn't want to bother you. But people on my team

01:00:57.909 --> 01:01:01.050
suggested, like, well, you know, we pushing the

01:01:01.050 --> 01:01:02.570
album and all that shit definitely for press

01:01:02.570 --> 01:01:05.070
and promotions, but on top of that, they was

01:01:05.070 --> 01:01:07.110
like, man, Joe Rogan is the motherfucker. Do

01:01:07.110 --> 01:01:10.010
you know him? I'm like, what? Let me text you

01:01:10.010 --> 01:01:12.110
and see what's happening real quick. So I had

01:01:12.110 --> 01:01:13.909
to pull out my Rolodex and text you. And you

01:01:13.909 --> 01:01:17.010
was like, hey, man, this is the wrong number.

01:01:17.070 --> 01:01:18.789
Hit me from the other number. Then you called

01:01:18.789 --> 01:01:20.769
me. I'm like, look, Joe, fuck that shit. I got

01:01:20.769 --> 01:01:22.849
to come see you, man. Let's make it official,

01:01:22.969 --> 01:01:25.369
man. I love you and I love what you do. So we

01:01:25.369 --> 01:01:26.909
just need to stand by each other and support

01:01:26.909 --> 01:01:29.750
what we do. This is what it's about. When I was

01:01:29.750 --> 01:01:32.349
on FaceTime with you, this is how you transcend

01:01:32.349 --> 01:01:34.769
generations. I was on FaceTime with you at my

01:01:34.769 --> 01:01:39.110
dinner table. I have a daughter who has a dog

01:01:39.110 --> 01:01:42.849
named Snoop. And somehow or another, my 13 -year

01:01:42.849 --> 01:01:46.309
-old thought I was talking to the dog. And I'm

01:01:46.309 --> 01:01:49.449
like, what's up, Snoop? And then I turn and I

01:01:49.449 --> 01:01:51.449
show her the FaceTime. And she goes, holy shit,

01:01:51.469 --> 01:01:59.570
it's Snoop Dogg. For real. My daughter's never

01:01:59.570 --> 01:02:03.409
done that. Holy shit, it's Snoop Dogg. For real.

01:02:03.469 --> 01:02:05.230
She said that like she's been saying that shit

01:02:05.230 --> 01:02:09.130
for years. That shit came out too slick. It was

01:02:09.130 --> 01:02:11.670
hilarious. Come on, man. We family, man. That's

01:02:11.670 --> 01:02:14.409
amazing. I just met the dog in real life. Yeah.

01:02:14.550 --> 01:02:16.110
Which y 'all don't know, me and the dog just

01:02:16.110 --> 01:02:17.969
bonded. He's a little cutie, isn't he? Yeah,

01:02:17.989 --> 01:02:19.730
man. He fuck with me. That's my nephew, man.

01:02:19.809 --> 01:02:21.449
You understand me? I'm the dog father. You know,

01:02:21.489 --> 01:02:24.230
when a dog see me. You have 20 dogs? Yeah. When

01:02:24.230 --> 01:02:26.550
a dog see me, Joe, this is naturally what happens.

01:02:26.690 --> 01:02:28.329
I don't give a fuck if it's the meanest, toughest

01:02:28.329 --> 01:02:31.250
dog. Either he come over to me and he rub me

01:02:31.250 --> 01:02:34.429
or he lay on his back or he just sit down and

01:02:34.429 --> 01:02:36.559
just pee. because he'd be so happy he'd just

01:02:36.559 --> 01:02:39.059
start peeing. He'd be like, damn, that's Snoop

01:02:39.059 --> 01:02:46.340
Dogg. You're a real dog man. You seen it with

01:02:46.340 --> 01:02:48.000
your own two eyes. I saw it. You can't fake that.

01:02:48.119 --> 01:02:50.199
The way you came up to that little dog and then

01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:52.500
he was like frozen and you started petting him

01:02:52.500 --> 01:02:54.679
and he started giving in to you. And he posed

01:02:54.679 --> 01:02:57.400
for the picture. Come on now, Joe. Who does that?

01:02:57.519 --> 01:03:00.079
Yeah. Who the fuck does that? For him, it's like

01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:04.199
meeting a mythical god. You've heard your namesake.

01:03:04.500 --> 01:03:07.500
Your namesake is a man. He raps. He's in movies.

01:03:07.900 --> 01:03:09.699
Imagine you're a dog. You're trying to figure

01:03:09.699 --> 01:03:12.460
this out. Who am I named after? Oh, you're named

01:03:12.460 --> 01:03:16.380
after Snoop D -O -double -G, the real. The motherfucking

01:03:16.380 --> 01:03:18.980
dog father? The dog father. And when he see me,

01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:26.089
he say, that smell like the dog father. Shriveling

01:03:26.089 --> 01:03:29.269
timbers. Exit stage left. It must be the dog,

01:03:29.329 --> 01:03:31.630
father. I must run up. Imagine if he tried to

01:03:31.630 --> 01:03:33.469
explain to his friends that he met the real Snoop

01:03:33.469 --> 01:03:35.650
Dogg. They'd be like, shut the fuck up. You lying.

01:03:35.789 --> 01:03:37.329
I'm telling you. How the fuck you meet Snoop

01:03:37.329 --> 01:03:38.809
Dogg? I'll shut your little ass down somewhere.

01:03:38.969 --> 01:03:40.610
You ain't meeting no motherfucking Snoop Dogg.

01:03:41.230 --> 01:03:43.630
I met him, dog. I'm telling you. Motherfucker

01:03:43.630 --> 01:03:45.530
was scratching my back and everything. Don't

01:03:45.530 --> 01:03:47.550
you think you have some sort of a telepathic

01:03:47.550 --> 01:03:50.550
relationship with dogs? I think I do. I think

01:03:50.550 --> 01:03:53.599
that's what my... Previous life, I think that's

01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:55.460
what I was. If you have a good dog, though, a

01:03:55.460 --> 01:03:57.039
good connection with your dog, I think everybody

01:03:57.039 --> 01:03:59.519
has a telepathic connection with their dog. You

01:03:59.519 --> 01:04:02.800
probably especially love dogs, and they can sense

01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:05.940
that right away. Just like you can sense a person

01:04:05.940 --> 01:04:08.280
who's a loving person right away. Right. Dogs

01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:10.460
can sense that, too. And you're obviously a loving

01:04:10.460 --> 01:04:13.119
dog person. You love that dog. I can tell. Man,

01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:16.139
I go up to the meanest, toughest dogs, Joe, and

01:04:16.139 --> 01:04:18.880
I break them. Like, that's my thing, to break

01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:23.269
a dog. He's mean. I'm not the whisperer. What

01:04:23.269 --> 01:04:25.570
his name is? Caesar, the little dog whisperer.

01:04:25.769 --> 01:04:28.510
I ain't him. I'm like a different version of

01:04:28.510 --> 01:04:31.070
that. Like, it could be a real mean, tough dog,

01:04:31.170 --> 01:04:34.090
and I'd be like, let me go talk to him. And I'd

01:04:34.090 --> 01:04:36.530
walk him back in the living room and sit. He'd

01:04:36.530 --> 01:04:39.630
sit down. He's never sat like that before. I

01:04:39.630 --> 01:04:42.309
know. What did you do to him? Don't worry about

01:04:42.309 --> 01:04:48.719
all that. I've always been pretty good with dogs,

01:04:48.840 --> 01:04:51.219
but some dogs are just, you can't take a chance

01:04:51.219 --> 01:04:53.420
with them. The big ones? Yeah, there's like,

01:04:53.539 --> 01:04:56.199
not even some of the big ones. There's some medium

01:04:56.199 --> 01:04:58.460
-sized ones that are real sketchy. If they're

01:04:58.460 --> 01:05:01.019
not trained right, like Belgian Malinois. Oh,

01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:03.800
yeah. That's not a big dog. No, I'm talking about

01:05:03.800 --> 01:05:06.019
American dogs. All that European shit, I don't

01:05:06.019 --> 01:05:08.280
do all that. Those are the, they're called meat

01:05:08.280 --> 01:05:10.079
missiles. Yeah, you got to talk to them in a

01:05:10.079 --> 01:05:11.539
different language. I don't speak that shit.

01:05:12.300 --> 01:05:14.019
And you see those things, you're like, you're

01:05:14.019 --> 01:05:16.820
basically a wolf. Exactly. That's basically a

01:05:16.820 --> 01:05:20.659
little wolf. Right. And they use them for service,

01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:24.599
duty. They're always used overseas. That's the

01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:27.320
dog of choice. Those motherfuckers can walk on

01:05:27.320 --> 01:05:29.579
tightropes. Have you ever seen that, Snoop? No,

01:05:29.599 --> 01:05:32.440
I haven't. They walk tightropes. For real? Yeah,

01:05:32.519 --> 01:05:34.920
for real. Yeah, they have like two tightropes,

01:05:34.920 --> 01:05:37.380
and the dog puts one paw on each one, and he

01:05:37.380 --> 01:05:39.139
walks on this tightrope. They go over obstacle

01:05:39.139 --> 01:05:41.699
courses. They can jump like 20 feet in the air.

01:05:42.269 --> 01:05:44.190
They're like missiles. You know what my mission

01:05:44.190 --> 01:05:47.469
was when I used to go overseas? Was to break

01:05:47.469 --> 01:05:50.550
the mouth. Look at this. Watch this video. Look

01:05:50.550 --> 01:05:54.429
at this fucking dog. This is how smart they are.

01:05:54.530 --> 01:05:56.489
Look at this obstacle course this dog's running.

01:05:58.170 --> 01:06:01.710
Watch this. Oh, that's hard. This is crazy. This

01:06:01.710 --> 01:06:03.429
is how smart they are and how driven they are.

01:06:03.530 --> 01:06:06.550
This dog has a course to run. He knows the course.

01:06:06.690 --> 01:06:10.329
He's walking on ropes, hopping from object to

01:06:10.329 --> 01:06:14.989
object. The fact that a dog could be trained

01:06:14.989 --> 01:06:17.710
to do this and follow these instructions this

01:06:17.710 --> 01:06:21.389
clearly like he knows exactly where to go And

01:06:21.389 --> 01:06:23.489
he's doing all this crazy shit like look he's

01:06:23.489 --> 01:06:27.409
on a fucking tightrope again and You don't have

01:06:27.409 --> 01:06:29.090
to talk to him. You don't have to tell him what

01:06:29.090 --> 01:06:31.250
to do He knows what to do is it this guy giving

01:06:31.250 --> 01:06:38.320
him instruction the dog just doing it Jamie Okay,

01:06:38.420 --> 01:06:40.239
he is giving him instructions. That's gangster

01:06:40.239 --> 01:06:41.940
right there. Look at that. He's making the dog

01:06:41.940 --> 01:06:44.059
walk on his fucking front legs. That's crazy.

01:06:45.099 --> 01:06:48.539
Go, go, hurry up. Come on, go. The fact that

01:06:48.539 --> 01:06:50.380
you could teach a dog to do this, like that is

01:06:50.380 --> 01:06:53.460
not a normal dog. That dog must have immense

01:06:53.460 --> 01:06:57.739
problem -solving drive, like prey drive. And

01:06:57.739 --> 01:07:00.219
that's what makes a good hunter. That's why they're

01:07:00.219 --> 01:07:03.380
so scary. He can go get a rat. Exactly. Or a

01:07:03.380 --> 01:07:06.760
person. That dog will go get a person. This nigga

01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:08.460
can't walk on a ladder. Yeah, he's walking up

01:07:08.460 --> 01:07:10.199
the ladder and going down a slide. Come on, cuz.

01:07:11.820 --> 01:07:14.179
Come on, cuz. He's on the roof. He's on the roof.

01:07:15.699 --> 01:07:17.880
And he went up there to get the ball. That's

01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:21.599
amazing. That's amazing. And for his reward,

01:07:21.679 --> 01:07:25.630
he gets a ball. Wow. Dude, that's... That's what

01:07:25.630 --> 01:07:27.489
she said. She wanted some balls for her reward.

01:07:27.769 --> 01:07:29.730
You know what's interesting? It's like, that's

01:07:29.730 --> 01:07:32.289
cool to watch. It's cool to watch a dog that

01:07:32.289 --> 01:07:35.090
can do that. It's amazing. But why does a dog

01:07:35.090 --> 01:07:37.489
have that kind of problem -solving ability? Why?

01:07:37.750 --> 01:07:41.190
To kill things. Right. That's why. That's right.

01:07:41.309 --> 01:07:43.550
That's why it's so good at that. It's why it's

01:07:43.550 --> 01:07:45.010
also so hard to control. They want to kill things.

01:07:45.010 --> 01:07:48.010
Go find him. Exactly. They just want to hunt.

01:07:48.210 --> 01:07:49.690
You're going to get found with that motherfucker

01:07:49.690 --> 01:07:52.170
looking for you. That's not a big dog either.

01:07:52.349 --> 01:07:54.130
That's kind of a scary animal because it's like

01:07:54.130 --> 01:07:57.070
a 60 -pound thing that'll take out men. They

01:07:57.070 --> 01:07:58.949
look like a German Shepherd, dude. They look

01:07:58.949 --> 01:08:01.329
similar, but they're smaller. They're actually,

01:08:01.429 --> 01:08:04.250
well, I don't know for the most part. I'm not

01:08:04.250 --> 01:08:06.429
a Belgian Malinois expert, but I believe they're

01:08:06.429 --> 01:08:08.070
smaller. I'm going to tell you what my mission

01:08:08.070 --> 01:08:10.389
was. Look at this. Snoop, look at this. Look

01:08:10.389 --> 01:08:12.489
at this dog. Oh, he got too much. Look at that.

01:08:12.889 --> 01:08:17.109
Look how fucking high he jumps. I mean, how high

01:08:17.109 --> 01:08:20.189
is he? That's like 20 feet in the air. What the

01:08:20.189 --> 01:08:23.810
fuck? How does an animal jump 20 feet in the

01:08:23.810 --> 01:08:29.710
air? These things are fucking ferocious, man.

01:08:29.770 --> 01:08:32.409
And they're so athletic. Like, look at this dog

01:08:32.409 --> 01:08:38.569
leap. It's climbing a fucking wall. Climbs a

01:08:38.569 --> 01:08:41.050
fucking wall, jumps off of his owner's back,

01:08:41.170 --> 01:08:43.829
and climbs like 20 feet up a fucking wall and

01:08:43.829 --> 01:08:47.050
scrambles to the top. I mean, what the hell,

01:08:47.149 --> 01:08:49.539
man? Imagine if you're on top of that thing and

01:08:49.539 --> 01:08:51.600
you're like, I'm safe up here. Shit, this is

01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:53.859
like 20 feet. And you see that thing running

01:08:53.859 --> 01:08:57.640
up the hill? Look at that with its mouth open.

01:08:57.739 --> 01:09:01.100
Why can it do that? It can do that in place of

01:09:01.100 --> 01:09:05.159
killing things. Right. Because it needs stimulation,

01:09:05.439 --> 01:09:08.840
like hunt -type stimulation. It needs something

01:09:08.840 --> 01:09:11.920
to initiate that prey drive over and over again.

01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:14.199
So if you can get it to chase a ball or run or

01:09:14.199 --> 01:09:16.460
grab a walk, Cross the tightrope. It'll do that.

01:09:16.520 --> 01:09:19.119
What it really wants to do is kill shit. It wants

01:09:19.119 --> 01:09:21.100
to go kill shit. That's a little wolf. That's

01:09:21.100 --> 01:09:23.300
a pacifier right now. That's a fucking wolf.

01:09:23.840 --> 01:09:27.399
Damn, damn, damn. Damn, damn, damn. Look, my

01:09:27.399 --> 01:09:29.479
mission back in the days when I used to go overseas

01:09:29.479 --> 01:09:33.699
was to break that motherfucking beagle. Because

01:09:33.699 --> 01:09:35.539
that beagle used to be waiting on us when we'd

01:09:35.539 --> 01:09:37.939
come through the airport. It smelled like that

01:09:37.939 --> 01:09:40.739
good dope. And that motherfucker come stand right

01:09:40.739 --> 01:09:42.859
next to a motherfucker. When he stand next to

01:09:42.859 --> 01:09:44.560
you, they call you out the line and run through

01:09:44.560 --> 01:09:47.079
all your bags. So I had to figure out how to

01:09:47.079 --> 01:09:49.699
break this motherfucker. I took a little class

01:09:49.699 --> 01:09:54.479
on beagles. So next time I went overseas, a little

01:09:54.479 --> 01:09:57.520
motherfucker pulled up on me, and he looked at

01:09:57.520 --> 01:09:59.699
me, and he was like, and I gave him a little

01:09:59.699 --> 01:10:02.140
signal. He said, no, not him. And he went and

01:10:02.140 --> 01:10:04.720
stood next to another motherfucker. and that

01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:06.520
was a beautiful thing, and I learned how to break

01:10:06.520 --> 01:10:08.439
the beagle. Y 'all hit me up if y 'all want to

01:10:08.439 --> 01:10:09.720
learn how to break that beagle when y 'all go

01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:12.000
overseas, because that motherfucker's ferocious.

01:10:12.100 --> 01:10:14.460
He's going to smell some old dope on you. He's

01:10:14.460 --> 01:10:16.020
going to take you in that back room, man, that

01:10:16.020 --> 01:10:19.479
little bitty black dog. Watch out now. Yeah,

01:10:19.539 --> 01:10:21.359
if you go overseas, they have totally different

01:10:21.359 --> 01:10:23.720
rules. If you get arrested with weed in, like,

01:10:23.720 --> 01:10:26.319
Singapore, you're in real fucking trouble. How

01:10:26.319 --> 01:10:28.720
about one country you can't even smell like weed?

01:10:28.920 --> 01:10:31.220
Really? You can't even have it in your system.

01:10:31.359 --> 01:10:34.720
What country is that? Norway. Really? Norway?

01:10:35.060 --> 01:10:39.539
Zero tolerance. Norway? For weed? Yes. That seems

01:10:39.539 --> 01:10:41.819
absurd. They seem like, when I think of Norway,

01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:43.779
I think of like open -minded, logical people.

01:10:44.140 --> 01:10:47.979
Yeah, the women and the people. But as far as

01:10:47.979 --> 01:10:50.560
the lawmakers. Not the politicians? Yeah, nah,

01:10:50.619 --> 01:10:52.279
they ain't with that shit. Really? That's zero

01:10:52.279 --> 01:10:55.600
tolerance in Norway. So it's completely illegal?

01:10:56.579 --> 01:11:00.159
I went over there, motherfuckers. I had a concert.

01:11:00.260 --> 01:11:03.479
As soon as I got off stage. We're on a tour bus

01:11:03.479 --> 01:11:06.439
and my tour bus driver driving. He just pulled

01:11:06.439 --> 01:11:07.840
over to the side of the road. We're like, what

01:11:07.840 --> 01:11:11.119
the fuck he pull over for? Two police officers

01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:15.420
in a little ass car get on the bus and come right

01:11:15.420 --> 01:11:18.840
to me and say, you need to come with us. I'm

01:11:18.840 --> 01:11:21.579
like, huh? You need to come with us. So the car

01:11:21.579 --> 01:11:24.800
is so little, can't nobody ride with me. So I

01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:27.640
got to ride with them to the police station and

01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:29.960
they tell me. Either you're going to give us

01:11:29.960 --> 01:11:31.239
some blood or you're going to pee in the cup.

01:11:31.619 --> 01:11:34.920
But we need to see if you got any drugs in your

01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:39.579
system. So I pee in the cup, do the show, come

01:11:39.579 --> 01:11:42.479
back like maybe six months later. This time when

01:11:42.479 --> 01:11:46.840
I come back, they like, they pull me and my cousin

01:11:46.840 --> 01:11:49.800
over on the side of the road and just draw down

01:11:49.800 --> 01:11:52.239
on us like, you under arrest. I'm like, damn,

01:11:52.300 --> 01:11:55.000
I just got here. You had a dirty test last time

01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:57.479
you was here. You under arrest. Put me in the

01:11:57.479 --> 01:12:00.130
car. arrest me, take me down to the station,

01:12:00.449 --> 01:12:03.729
make me pee in the cup again, and then ask for

01:12:03.729 --> 01:12:08.569
a picture and let me go. Whoa. Imagine how dramatically

01:12:08.569 --> 01:12:11.970
shocked I was. I needed to smoke one after that.

01:12:13.949 --> 01:12:17.989
What country was that? Norway. Norway? Really?

01:12:18.250 --> 01:12:20.189
I would have never imagined they would be so

01:12:20.189 --> 01:12:22.770
hardcore. Oh, yeah. I would imagine Norway would

01:12:22.770 --> 01:12:24.970
be pretty, like, you know, it's like, I think

01:12:24.970 --> 01:12:26.470
of all those people, I think of, like, Holland.

01:12:27.640 --> 01:12:31.420
Right? Netherlands. I know they're not close

01:12:31.420 --> 01:12:32.880
to each other, but I'm an ignorant American.

01:12:33.079 --> 01:12:35.539
Netherlands is lovely. You don't have no problems

01:12:35.539 --> 01:12:39.180
over there. They don't even got... Look, they

01:12:39.180 --> 01:12:43.000
can pull these cars so little. Somebody was following

01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:47.359
this paparazzi, and we stopped to take a picture,

01:12:47.399 --> 01:12:48.939
and then all of a sudden a dude rolled by on

01:12:48.939 --> 01:12:52.020
the bike, and my driver hit him on the bike.

01:12:52.079 --> 01:12:56.390
Boom. And he didn't get hurt, but he laid all

01:12:56.390 --> 01:12:58.789
out in front of the van like he was fucked up.

01:12:58.850 --> 01:13:02.029
So then my security was like, hey, man, you got

01:13:02.029 --> 01:13:04.149
to move. We got to go. You ain't that hurt. Get

01:13:04.149 --> 01:13:06.970
your ass out the street. So the dude got up,

01:13:07.010 --> 01:13:09.329
and then my security pushed him. And when he

01:13:09.329 --> 01:13:12.029
pushed him, the police was coming. Police pulled

01:13:12.029 --> 01:13:14.449
up in a car about this big, and my security is

01:13:14.449 --> 01:13:19.390
like 6 '9", 450 pounds. So they looked at my

01:13:19.390 --> 01:13:23.760
security, and the police said, okay. You drive

01:13:23.760 --> 01:13:25.859
yourself to the police station, and we're going

01:13:25.859 --> 01:13:27.619
to follow y 'all because you can't fit in our

01:13:27.619 --> 01:13:30.760
car. So we had to drive him to the police station

01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:33.539
to write up a little report on him pushing a

01:13:33.539 --> 01:13:36.539
lady, and then they let him go. So there's no

01:13:36.539 --> 01:13:39.760
crime over there. There's no police cars. The

01:13:39.760 --> 01:13:41.640
police didn't even have a gun. We could have

01:13:41.640 --> 01:13:43.960
just drove off if we wanted to. It was so funny

01:13:43.960 --> 01:13:46.579
to us that we had to drive ourselves to jail.

01:13:46.659 --> 01:13:48.680
We just did this shit. Like, fuck it. Come on.

01:13:48.699 --> 01:13:54.840
Let's go. What country is the easiest to smoke

01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:58.000
weed in? Amsterdam. That's the easiest, right?

01:13:58.220 --> 01:14:01.880
Yes, sir. Well, it's part of the tourism industry.

01:14:01.979 --> 01:14:05.079
It really is. The coffee shops. Yeah. Well, it

01:14:05.079 --> 01:14:06.739
used to be the tourism industry of Vancouver.

01:14:07.239 --> 01:14:09.560
Vancouver was the shit. Right? Before the pandemic.

01:14:09.560 --> 01:14:11.659
It was the shit. Yeah, particularly before the

01:14:11.659 --> 01:14:14.609
pandemic. The B .C. They had that B .C. I mean,

01:14:14.630 --> 01:14:18.529
their whole economy is in some way based on weed.

01:14:18.770 --> 01:14:21.090
Gotta be. I mean, there's so much weed that came

01:14:21.090 --> 01:14:22.670
out of that part of the country. There was that

01:14:22.670 --> 01:14:27.789
documentary, The Union. Mm -hmm. And it's all

01:14:27.789 --> 01:14:31.590
about that, all about the underbelly of, like,

01:14:31.590 --> 01:14:33.729
things that finance businesses and stuff in that

01:14:33.729 --> 01:14:36.029
area. It's people growing weed. Man, my first

01:14:36.029 --> 01:14:39.069
movie was shot in Vancouver. Really? I had to

01:14:39.069 --> 01:14:41.289
stay out there for, like, five or six months.

01:14:41.369 --> 01:14:45.050
It's called Jimmy Bones. And I was getting so

01:14:45.050 --> 01:14:47.029
much good weed out there. I lived out there.

01:14:47.069 --> 01:14:49.449
It was so good. It was like, you know, when you're

01:14:49.449 --> 01:14:51.050
shooting a movie, you can fly back home. I'm

01:14:51.050 --> 01:14:52.750
like, shit, I didn't even fly home. I just stayed

01:14:52.750 --> 01:14:56.109
out there. That shit was good. And this was like

01:14:56.109 --> 01:15:02.689
1999. And I don't even think it was, it wasn't

01:15:02.689 --> 01:15:04.390
federally legal, but we were still getting that

01:15:04.390 --> 01:15:07.890
shit. Yeah, they're totally legal now. The whole

01:15:07.890 --> 01:15:09.949
country of Canada is legal. It's like they make

01:15:09.949 --> 01:15:13.359
good choices and bad choices. But the whole country

01:15:13.359 --> 01:15:16.180
is completely, marijuana is completely legal.

01:15:16.420 --> 01:15:19.319
And they give you free health care. Yeah. I mean,

01:15:19.319 --> 01:15:20.939
somebody's got to pay for it, right? But, yeah,

01:15:21.039 --> 01:15:24.439
it's free. That's 100 % something that we need

01:15:24.439 --> 01:15:27.039
to figure out how to do in a country like America,

01:15:27.199 --> 01:15:30.039
as big as it is. Let's figure that out. And I

01:15:30.039 --> 01:15:32.220
think we could do it through selling weed. Right.

01:15:32.439 --> 01:15:34.899
That's what I think. Right. Make weed legal federally

01:15:34.899 --> 01:15:37.800
and put a percentage of the tax that goes straight

01:15:37.800 --> 01:15:41.159
to health care. We have everybody covered quick.

01:15:41.789 --> 01:15:45.710
If weed was legal nationwide? Well, look, in

01:15:45.710 --> 01:15:47.970
Denver, Colorado, what they did when they started,

01:15:47.970 --> 01:15:49.729
they took some of their taxes and put it towards

01:15:49.729 --> 01:15:52.510
education. That's a good move. Which was a great

01:15:52.510 --> 01:15:55.250
move, and then the crime rate went down, education

01:15:55.250 --> 01:15:58.689
is going up, and then Denver, Colorado finances

01:15:58.689 --> 01:16:02.310
just, you know, grew the whole state, the whole,

01:16:02.310 --> 01:16:04.909
you know, situation has grown. Do you think that

01:16:04.909 --> 01:16:09.130
they should legalize everything? All drugs? Well...

01:16:09.390 --> 01:16:11.850
I said let's start with cannabis first. I don't

01:16:11.850 --> 01:16:14.909
think all until you figure out what's the benefits,

01:16:15.149 --> 01:16:17.250
what's the health benefits. We found the health

01:16:17.250 --> 01:16:19.729
benefits to marijuana, so that's why I feel like

01:16:19.729 --> 01:16:21.529
we should roll with that first until we find,

01:16:21.609 --> 01:16:24.390
you know, what the other ones mean and can do

01:16:24.390 --> 01:16:27.750
to help. Then we move into those because marijuana

01:16:27.750 --> 01:16:29.489
been fighting for a long time. It used to be

01:16:29.489 --> 01:16:31.569
the outcast. Yeah. You know, it used to always

01:16:31.569 --> 01:16:34.550
be the outcast. You smoke weed, you a bad person,

01:16:34.609 --> 01:16:36.960
you this, you that. Now it's like, shit, you're

01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:39.039
finding out that some of the greatest motherfuckers

01:16:39.039 --> 01:16:43.020
in the world couldn't move without weed. So are

01:16:43.020 --> 01:16:47.159
we bad? Yeah, weed just gets a bad rap. Right.

01:16:48.199 --> 01:16:50.699
Weed got a bad rap. People didn't really know

01:16:50.699 --> 01:16:53.439
what it does. And they kept making all those

01:16:53.439 --> 01:16:56.279
bad movies about it fucking you up as opposed

01:16:56.279 --> 01:16:58.819
to Cheech and Chong movies showing you how much

01:16:58.819 --> 01:17:02.880
fun you can have off of that shit. Yeah, well,

01:17:02.960 --> 01:17:05.859
it has such a long history of propaganda against

01:17:05.859 --> 01:17:09.000
it. What was the first movie they made talking

01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:11.439
about it? Reefer Madness. Yeah, that black and

01:17:11.439 --> 01:17:13.500
white movie. Yeah, there was a few of those,

01:17:13.579 --> 01:17:15.739
though. There was Marijuana Girl, Reefer Madness.

01:17:15.739 --> 01:17:18.199
I have a bunch of vintage posters from these

01:17:18.199 --> 01:17:22.220
movies. How do they feel now? They're just framed

01:17:22.220 --> 01:17:25.000
posters. It's just you look at what they were

01:17:25.000 --> 01:17:27.340
selling back then. Right. Calling it, you know.

01:17:27.520 --> 01:17:29.439
I told you, though. Remember, the media is controlled

01:17:29.439 --> 01:17:32.390
by... whoever's in control. So whatever they

01:17:32.390 --> 01:17:35.930
pushing, they made it very scary for parents

01:17:35.930 --> 01:17:37.770
and then kids. But at the same time, what they

01:17:37.770 --> 01:17:39.989
didn't know was when you put that kind of shit

01:17:39.989 --> 01:17:42.149
out, you make kids want to do the shit. Right.

01:17:42.449 --> 01:17:44.789
Exactly. You didn't deter nobody. You made motherfuckers

01:17:44.789 --> 01:17:49.010
want to go try it. Yeah. Exactly. You tell people

01:17:49.010 --> 01:17:51.390
they don't have the access to something, they're

01:17:51.390 --> 01:17:52.829
not allowed to do something, they want to do

01:17:52.829 --> 01:17:56.189
it so bad. Boy. Boy, do we. Boy, do we. We don't

01:17:56.189 --> 01:17:58.250
like people telling us what the fuck to do, especially

01:17:58.250 --> 01:18:00.909
when it comes to something like weed. People

01:18:00.909 --> 01:18:05.810
can say that weed makes you lazy or weed is bad

01:18:05.810 --> 01:18:09.930
for you. No, life provides you with all sorts

01:18:09.930 --> 01:18:13.409
of challenges. And if you're lazy and weed comes

01:18:13.409 --> 01:18:15.630
along, weed just found you when you're lazy.

01:18:16.470 --> 01:18:18.890
You're not lazy. You smoke weed all the time.

01:18:19.109 --> 01:18:21.310
You're constantly involved in shit. Somebody

01:18:21.310 --> 01:18:24.399
put up an Instagram post. God damn, I wish I

01:18:24.399 --> 01:18:26.140
could remember who it is. But it was like all

01:18:26.140 --> 01:18:28.920
these obscure things that you're constantly doing.

01:18:28.979 --> 01:18:31.100
You're always doing something. You never stop.

01:18:32.359 --> 01:18:35.340
Can't stop, won't stop. Can't stop, won't stop.

01:18:35.779 --> 01:18:40.439
So much shit. The many faces of Snoop Dogg. I

01:18:40.439 --> 01:18:43.260
love it. Everything is fine, Joe. Shit, I'm like,

01:18:43.300 --> 01:18:44.760
I'm fine. That's what it looks like. That's what

01:18:44.760 --> 01:18:47.239
it looks like. You seem like in a world where

01:18:47.239 --> 01:18:50.529
people become increasingly tense. You seem like

01:18:50.529 --> 01:18:52.810
a person who's more relaxed and has more fun

01:18:52.810 --> 01:18:56.229
every year. And I get to teach people, too. That's

01:18:56.229 --> 01:18:58.149
like I'm at the point in my career now where

01:18:58.149 --> 01:19:00.229
I got a lot of information and wisdom and guidance.

01:19:00.630 --> 01:19:03.210
And I can give this to the young up and coming.

01:19:03.550 --> 01:19:06.590
And I love that part of the industry that I can

01:19:06.590 --> 01:19:08.270
actually give you some information as opposed

01:19:08.270 --> 01:19:11.390
to me just having fun for me. But actually having

01:19:11.390 --> 01:19:15.529
fun is an example for you. A hundred percent.

01:19:16.489 --> 01:19:19.739
Because we imitate our atmosphere. If we see

01:19:19.739 --> 01:19:22.239
someone who's tense and angry and that's who

01:19:22.239 --> 01:19:24.840
we like, a guy who has no love and he's just

01:19:24.840 --> 01:19:28.659
hard and cold, and that's who we admire, or we

01:19:28.659 --> 01:19:30.800
see someone who's just having a great time with

01:19:30.800 --> 01:19:33.840
a smile on his face, dancing around, moving,

01:19:34.239 --> 01:19:36.859
just feeling it. I want people to smile when

01:19:36.859 --> 01:19:39.760
I walk in the room. Yes. When you see me, I want

01:19:39.760 --> 01:19:43.079
smiles and hugs. I don't want grabbing your purse,

01:19:43.180 --> 01:19:45.840
locking your doors. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

01:19:45.880 --> 01:19:49.050
I used to be that. I used to be that guy. i pulled

01:19:49.050 --> 01:19:51.590
up you know people looked the other way locking

01:19:51.590 --> 01:19:56.590
their doors you know now it's like hugs kisses

01:19:56.590 --> 01:19:59.869
can i have a picture i love you my kids love

01:19:59.869 --> 01:20:03.149
you all that great and i love it because that's

01:20:03.149 --> 01:20:06.050
who i am i come in with a smile i come in being

01:20:06.050 --> 01:20:08.890
yes life with a party i don't come in this sad

01:20:08.890 --> 01:20:13.310
or mad i come in happy upbeat yeah no you come

01:20:13.310 --> 01:20:16.979
in with all love you can feel it You're a fun

01:20:16.979 --> 01:20:19.380
dude. That's how I was raised, yo. That's beautiful.

01:20:19.699 --> 01:20:21.579
You get it from up top. The people that raised

01:20:21.579 --> 01:20:23.699
you are the reason you are who you are. So here's

01:20:23.699 --> 01:20:27.640
my point. You are completely connected to marijuana.

01:20:28.680 --> 01:20:32.100
You're one of the nicest people alive. There's

01:20:32.100 --> 01:20:34.500
a connection, obviously. Right. Why the fuck

01:20:34.500 --> 01:20:37.079
do people demonize marijuana when it's capable

01:20:37.079 --> 01:20:41.960
of creating a Snoop Dogg? They just got to have

01:20:41.960 --> 01:20:44.720
an open mind, yo. You know how it is. People

01:20:44.720 --> 01:20:47.239
had bad things to say about alcohol until you

01:20:47.239 --> 01:20:49.640
understood that it could really set the mold.

01:20:49.760 --> 01:20:52.199
It could really help conversations. It could

01:20:52.199 --> 01:20:54.760
really do what it's supposed to do. So until

01:20:54.760 --> 01:20:58.340
we actually understand what it does, we'll always

01:20:58.340 --> 01:20:59.859
have skepticism and people are going to have

01:20:59.859 --> 01:21:02.359
opinions about it. But those who do it know what

01:21:02.359 --> 01:21:05.159
it means. We're one nation under a bud. We all

01:21:05.159 --> 01:21:07.319
move together. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

01:21:08.060 --> 01:21:09.960
It's united though, right? When you find people

01:21:09.960 --> 01:21:11.819
that smoke, don't y 'all just have such a great

01:21:11.819 --> 01:21:14.310
time? Yeah, it's easier to have a great time

01:21:14.310 --> 01:21:17.310
if you all smoke. I think people who smoke are

01:21:17.310 --> 01:21:20.789
just a little more, when they're high, they're

01:21:20.789 --> 01:21:22.270
a little more compassionate. Look, I'm going

01:21:22.270 --> 01:21:24.130
to give you a story, man. We was doing the fucking

01:21:24.130 --> 01:21:27.550
Justin Bieber roast, and I'm sitting next to

01:21:27.550 --> 01:21:29.649
Martha Stewart. Shout out to Tony Inchcliffe.

01:21:29.909 --> 01:21:32.229
Right, he's my motherfucker. I love that. He's

01:21:32.229 --> 01:21:35.340
my motherfucker, so we're doing that. And Martha's

01:21:35.340 --> 01:21:37.100
sitting right next to me. I know her, but I don't

01:21:37.100 --> 01:21:38.600
know her like that. I've done her show before,

01:21:38.680 --> 01:21:40.579
but I don't really know her like that. So I'm

01:21:40.579 --> 01:21:42.899
smoking like I am right now. I'm probably on,

01:21:42.920 --> 01:21:46.579
like, blunt number 17. She catching all the secondhand

01:21:46.579 --> 01:21:51.399
smoke. She fucked up by now. So my boy Jeff Ross,

01:21:51.659 --> 01:21:54.819
he like, fuck this shit, Snoop. You sitting way

01:21:54.819 --> 01:21:56.239
over there. I need to hit something with you.

01:21:56.260 --> 01:21:58.600
All right, cool. Next commercial break, me and

01:21:58.600 --> 01:22:00.970
Jeff Ross going to motherfucking. potter port

01:22:00.970 --> 01:22:03.289
with little potty thing that they got you know

01:22:03.289 --> 01:22:05.989
when you one dude was being there peeing me and

01:22:05.989 --> 01:22:08.930
jeff when that blew a whole blunt to the head

01:22:08.930 --> 01:22:13.609
and came back out and it was the funniest ever

01:22:13.609 --> 01:22:17.250
man like and then me and martha stewart became

01:22:17.250 --> 01:22:19.229
friends and started doing business out of that

01:22:19.229 --> 01:22:23.390
so this marijuana yeah is a beautiful culmination

01:22:23.390 --> 01:22:25.149
of relationships because who would have thought

01:22:25.149 --> 01:22:28.670
that that day would have spawned all of the shit

01:22:28.670 --> 01:22:31.170
that me and Martha Stewart has done since then.

01:22:31.489 --> 01:22:34.470
So much shit. And it's fun to see me and her

01:22:34.470 --> 01:22:38.409
together, right? Oh, it's very fun. It's a cross

01:22:38.409 --> 01:22:42.050
-generational, cross -cultural love fest. Yeah,

01:22:42.090 --> 01:22:43.930
but it don't feel like it's forced, right? No,

01:22:44.170 --> 01:22:46.670
not at all, no. It's perfect. But who would have

01:22:46.670 --> 01:22:47.789
thought? Who would have thought, though, Joe?

01:22:47.890 --> 01:22:49.409
Come on now. Yeah, who would have thought? Come

01:22:49.409 --> 01:22:51.489
on, man. Snoop and Martha? Yeah, I know. Now

01:22:51.489 --> 01:22:53.149
the shit just sound like, hey, it's Snoop and

01:22:53.149 --> 01:22:56.710
Martha. Exactly. Try this shit on seven years

01:22:56.710 --> 01:22:58.729
ago. What the fuck is you talking about snooping,

01:22:58.729 --> 01:23:02.250
Martha? I know, right? It's amazing. But that's

01:23:02.250 --> 01:23:05.010
the world we live in. That's why I say, if that

01:23:05.010 --> 01:23:07.810
can happen, imagine how many people would hurt

01:23:07.810 --> 01:23:10.329
our Democrats and Republicans. Same with me.

01:23:10.369 --> 01:23:13.170
But when we're together, that shit don't matter.

01:23:13.590 --> 01:23:15.710
You get what I'm saying? Certain times when you

01:23:15.710 --> 01:23:17.449
get together, you can break all of the politics

01:23:17.449 --> 01:23:20.149
and just make it be about love and people. A

01:23:20.149 --> 01:23:21.850
hundred percent. And that's what it should be

01:23:21.850 --> 01:23:24.569
about. When you're around people and you just

01:23:24.569 --> 01:23:27.229
communicate eye to eye, face to face with people,

01:23:27.369 --> 01:23:30.850
that's who a real person is. This idea of communication

01:23:30.850 --> 01:23:34.789
through the internet, through social media and

01:23:34.789 --> 01:23:36.670
all the shit that people are doing, it just creates

01:23:36.670 --> 01:23:39.489
so much conflict. It's so unnecessary in so many

01:23:39.489 --> 01:23:41.750
ways. The way people communicate with each other.

01:23:42.239 --> 01:23:45.819
It's like people get off on insulting each other.

01:23:46.039 --> 01:23:48.300
But if you were right in front of a person, you

01:23:48.300 --> 01:23:49.819
would never talk like that, right? It would be

01:23:49.819 --> 01:23:52.979
rude. You would feel they're being upset. You

01:23:52.979 --> 01:23:54.760
would pull back. You'd feel bad that you said

01:23:54.760 --> 01:23:57.079
it that way. That's how people are supposed to

01:23:57.079 --> 01:23:59.199
talk. You're supposed to take cues off the people

01:23:59.199 --> 01:24:04.779
that you're talking to. And this is a great time,

01:24:04.880 --> 01:24:08.270
and it's also a confusing time. So much crazy

01:24:08.270 --> 01:24:10.069
shit is going on in the world. But it's also

01:24:10.069 --> 01:24:13.029
a time where when things get really like tumultuous

01:24:13.029 --> 01:24:16.829
and all fucked up and chaotic, people can be

01:24:16.829 --> 01:24:20.289
forced to make new plans and to work through

01:24:20.289 --> 01:24:23.090
things better. That's what I'm hoping. I'm hoping

01:24:23.090 --> 01:24:25.229
culturally we come out of this on the other side

01:24:25.229 --> 01:24:28.430
with like a better understanding of how we can

01:24:28.430 --> 01:24:31.550
function as a society. I think we're going to

01:24:31.550 --> 01:24:34.270
adapt to our environment because even when I

01:24:34.270 --> 01:24:38.140
see like... Well, my grandkids, right, I got

01:24:38.140 --> 01:24:42.180
six grandkids, and all of my grandkids are mixed,

01:24:42.359 --> 01:24:45.680
meaning that they have an African -American background.

01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:48.939
Some of them have a Caucasian background. Some

01:24:48.939 --> 01:24:52.020
of them have a Latino background. Some of them

01:24:52.020 --> 01:24:54.500
have a Colombian background. But they're mixed,

01:24:54.619 --> 01:24:58.539
and they love me, and I love them, and we're

01:24:58.539 --> 01:25:00.699
putting a new love in the world, and I see a

01:25:00.699 --> 01:25:03.100
lot of... mixed couples and mixed babies, and

01:25:03.100 --> 01:25:05.340
they don't have nothing but love for people.

01:25:05.680 --> 01:25:07.760
And if the world is moving in that direction

01:25:07.760 --> 01:25:11.180
with my grandkids and just kids in general, because

01:25:11.180 --> 01:25:13.859
kids are the purest people in the world. And

01:25:13.859 --> 01:25:15.840
when they're young and they're kids, they just

01:25:15.840 --> 01:25:18.300
know how to love, and it's all about them learning

01:25:18.300 --> 01:25:20.840
what you teach them. So if they're learning on

01:25:20.840 --> 01:25:22.520
their own now and they're learning how to communicate

01:25:22.520 --> 01:25:25.720
and network and they're spreading love, we ain't

01:25:25.720 --> 01:25:27.640
got to worry about nothing because the generation

01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:29.640
that we're living in now, they know how to love

01:25:29.640 --> 01:25:32.359
each other. They're certainly learning, and I

01:25:32.359 --> 01:25:34.979
think having a guy like you around that has that

01:25:34.979 --> 01:25:38.060
message is great for everybody. It's great for

01:25:38.060 --> 01:25:40.000
everybody. It's great for young people to see

01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:43.779
a guy who's successful and loved and is friendly

01:25:43.779 --> 01:25:47.800
and loving and wants people to just have a good

01:25:47.800 --> 01:25:51.039
fucking time. That's your thing. I mean, if anybody

01:25:51.039 --> 01:25:53.399
wanted to connect anything to what is Snoop Dogg

01:25:53.399 --> 01:25:55.079
all about, Snoop Dogg is all about having a good

01:25:55.079 --> 01:25:57.840
fucking time. Everything, all your videos, everything

01:25:57.840 --> 01:26:00.890
you do, all your songs. You're having a good

01:26:00.890 --> 01:26:03.850
fucking time. That's what you promote. And it

01:26:03.850 --> 01:26:07.569
makes people feel good. It's like you're an engine

01:26:07.569 --> 01:26:11.750
of fun times. That's what you've been doing your

01:26:11.750 --> 01:26:14.449
whole life. Man, that's a love thing. I had the

01:26:14.449 --> 01:26:17.409
pleasure of talking with James Brown for like

01:26:17.409 --> 01:26:19.829
three hours one night. Wow. Just like me and

01:26:19.829 --> 01:26:22.010
you sitting at a table right here. Holy shit.

01:26:22.029 --> 01:26:25.189
Just to get the information. I'm looking at him

01:26:25.189 --> 01:26:28.560
in his face the whole conversation. He like,

01:26:28.619 --> 01:26:31.199
you know, Snoopy. He talking to me and I'm like,

01:26:31.260 --> 01:26:33.500
I'm in this motherfucker with James Brown, cuz.

01:26:33.699 --> 01:26:35.479
Right? Like you can't believe it's real. But

01:26:35.479 --> 01:26:37.539
the things that he was saying to me, this is

01:26:37.539 --> 01:26:43.159
like years ago. I'm seeing them right now. It's

01:26:43.159 --> 01:26:46.100
like for someone to have that vision of you being

01:26:46.100 --> 01:26:50.500
what you're supposed to be, being all of that

01:26:50.500 --> 01:26:53.819
person that God made you. James seen this version

01:26:53.819 --> 01:26:57.920
of Snoop Dogg like 20 years ago. and he was telling

01:26:57.920 --> 01:27:00.800
me how this is what you need to be doing, this

01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:02.680
is what you're going to be doing, this is how

01:27:02.680 --> 01:27:04.039
you're going to change the world, and you're

01:27:04.039 --> 01:27:05.420
going to be the most loved, and you're going

01:27:05.420 --> 01:27:07.640
to be this. Because at that time, I wasn't loved

01:27:07.640 --> 01:27:10.460
as much, and I wasn't on the favorable side.

01:27:10.579 --> 01:27:12.659
I was still coming out of negative energy. So

01:27:12.659 --> 01:27:14.899
he was just blessing me with the strength of

01:27:14.899 --> 01:27:17.659
knowing that. I guess he felt like I was about

01:27:17.659 --> 01:27:19.539
to do what he was doing, because now I feel like

01:27:19.539 --> 01:27:21.100
I'm the hardest working man in show business,

01:27:21.220 --> 01:27:23.819
and he was always the hardest working man in

01:27:23.819 --> 01:27:26.260
show business, and he had to pass it. somebody

01:27:26.260 --> 01:27:31.579
like me that could run on when he went home it's

01:27:31.579 --> 01:27:37.859
hard to it's hard to like really clearly you'd

01:27:37.859 --> 01:27:41.439
have to live in the time of James Brown in his

01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:44.039
prime to understand there was nothing like him

01:27:44.039 --> 01:27:47.659
before him like when James Brown did that concert

01:27:47.659 --> 01:27:50.859
in Zaire before Muhammad Ali fought there Wow

01:27:50.859 --> 01:27:56.029
dude That is one of the wildest concerts James

01:27:56.029 --> 01:28:01.590
Brown in Zaire just dancing Moving and the power

01:28:01.590 --> 01:28:05.029
and the way like there was no one like him before

01:28:05.029 --> 01:28:08.029
him We've all seen people that were influenced

01:28:08.029 --> 01:28:11.149
by the early greats But when it comes to a guy

01:28:11.149 --> 01:28:13.630
like James Brown, you've got to go back to like

01:28:13.630 --> 01:28:16.310
a Hoist Gracie type deal. You look at him and

01:28:16.310 --> 01:28:18.770
you're like, okay, one just emerges like this.

01:28:19.430 --> 01:28:21.630
And then a lot of other people kind of like they

01:28:21.630 --> 01:28:24.829
might imitate styles and they might be influenced

01:28:24.829 --> 01:28:27.770
by. But when a guy just pops out of nowhere,

01:28:28.149 --> 01:28:32.909
get up. Get on up. I mean, come on. Come on.

01:28:33.130 --> 01:28:36.010
Live session. You know? The big payback. Now.

01:28:36.550 --> 01:28:41.210
Look at him. Look at him up there. And when he

01:28:41.210 --> 01:28:44.949
was in his fucking prime, he was just a ball

01:28:44.949 --> 01:28:47.109
of energy. And look at the way he would fucking

01:28:47.109 --> 01:28:51.010
dance while he was singing. I mean, nobody does

01:28:51.010 --> 01:28:55.630
this. Jamie, back that up just from the very

01:28:55.630 --> 01:28:58.470
beginning. Who the fuck comes out and does a

01:28:58.470 --> 01:29:02.109
show like this? This is how he goes on stage,

01:29:02.189 --> 01:29:06.449
takes his jacket off and starts moving, spinning.

01:29:07.610 --> 01:29:09.909
Drops to a split. How about the mic moving by

01:29:09.909 --> 01:29:12.329
itself? I'm going to let the mic do what the

01:29:12.329 --> 01:29:14.770
fuck it do while I drop down and hit this split.

01:29:15.770 --> 01:29:21.170
Look at him. I mean, this is James Brown in Zaire

01:29:21.170 --> 01:29:28.109
before a Muhammad Ali fight. This was when Ali

01:29:28.109 --> 01:29:30.869
fought Foreman, right? Right, Rumble in the Jungle.

01:29:31.069 --> 01:29:34.939
It was Foreman. George Clinton said he came to

01:29:34.939 --> 01:29:36.720
James Brown one night after a concert and said,

01:29:36.779 --> 01:29:39.739
James, hit one of them splits for me. And he

01:29:39.739 --> 01:29:42.199
said, James, hit 16 in a row. And he looked at

01:29:42.199 --> 01:29:44.319
George and said, now you hit one. And George

01:29:44.319 --> 01:29:49.119
left. He said, that nigga hit 16 in a row? Can

01:29:49.119 --> 01:29:51.340
you imagine him doing 16 of those back -to -back?

01:29:51.399 --> 01:29:54.239
Locker, locker, locker. That was part of what

01:29:54.239 --> 01:29:58.479
he did, man. He was a dynamo. Like, it's hard

01:29:58.479 --> 01:30:00.859
to. Look at his hair, man. He got his chest out,

01:30:00.939 --> 01:30:04.039
man. Well, onesie on with no drawers. Come on,

01:30:04.060 --> 01:30:06.199
man. So you can't overstate it. You can't wear

01:30:06.199 --> 01:30:08.640
no drawers doing splits like that. Yeah. I mean,

01:30:08.640 --> 01:30:10.760
he had to have special. Look at James chest out

01:30:10.760 --> 01:30:15.319
records and takes. He was like an athlete that

01:30:15.319 --> 01:30:18.979
also was an amazing singer. I mean, it was like

01:30:18.979 --> 01:30:21.840
when you would watch him dance, that's athletic

01:30:21.840 --> 01:30:25.439
moves. Oh, for sure. And he's singing. And there's

01:30:25.439 --> 01:30:28.829
no lip syncing back then. The track wasn't playing

01:30:28.829 --> 01:30:30.810
and him singing on top of it. That was all him

01:30:30.810 --> 01:30:33.210
right here, right now. All him. All him right

01:30:33.210 --> 01:30:35.210
there. They didn't have that kind of technology

01:30:35.210 --> 01:30:38.130
back then. That was James Brown being James Brown.

01:30:38.970 --> 01:30:41.329
There's those guys that pop out out of nowhere

01:30:41.329 --> 01:30:44.569
that are one of ones. The funk made the funk

01:30:44.569 --> 01:30:47.550
move on. Shout out to my boy DJ Warren G. Just

01:30:47.550 --> 01:30:50.010
had a birthday a couple of days ago. Warren G

01:30:50.010 --> 01:30:52.289
is responsible for Snoop Dogg getting his record

01:30:52.289 --> 01:30:54.550
deal. Is he really? Yeah, Warren G was the one

01:30:54.550 --> 01:30:57.550
who took my music to Dr. Dre. He was always the

01:30:57.550 --> 01:30:59.569
voice and the producer behind the scenes, making

01:30:59.569 --> 01:31:02.029
a lot of hit records on the Chronic album. He

01:31:02.029 --> 01:31:05.210
also produced Regulate, wrote Regulate, made

01:31:05.210 --> 01:31:08.149
a lot of hit records for himself. And his first

01:31:08.149 --> 01:31:10.930
album was like a three million seller. You know

01:31:10.930 --> 01:31:12.529
what I'm saying? I helped him with one song on

01:31:12.529 --> 01:31:14.250
there, and Corrupt helped him with a song, and

01:31:14.250 --> 01:31:16.789
he went and knocked that shit out the park. You

01:31:16.789 --> 01:31:18.109
know, it's beautiful when you got people that

01:31:18.109 --> 01:31:20.250
look out for you, that speak up for you to get

01:31:20.250 --> 01:31:22.390
you in the game, and then turn around, and then

01:31:22.390 --> 01:31:24.649
they become successful. That's the beauty of

01:31:24.649 --> 01:31:27.550
this game. That is a beautiful thing. And it

01:31:27.550 --> 01:31:30.029
also creates a camaraderie, and they'll do it

01:31:30.029 --> 01:31:31.750
to the people that are coming up that they recognize

01:31:31.750 --> 01:31:37.550
as well. Yeah. Like we were talking about the

01:31:37.550 --> 01:31:40.550
East Coast, West Coast thing. The fact that it

01:31:40.550 --> 01:31:43.029
was resolved and now is, I mean, would you say

01:31:43.029 --> 01:31:45.569
it's non -existent? It does not exist. Non -existent.

01:31:45.609 --> 01:31:48.470
I just, I'm on Def Jam Records, right? I'm a

01:31:48.470 --> 01:31:52.050
creative consultant executive. And just to let

01:31:52.050 --> 01:31:54.229
you know that it don't exist no more, I'm going

01:31:54.229 --> 01:31:57.529
to announce on your show that I just signed Benny

01:31:57.529 --> 01:32:00.850
the Butcher. And he is one of the hardest rappers

01:32:00.850 --> 01:32:03.430
about a Buffalo, New York. So that's showing

01:32:03.430 --> 01:32:06.489
that there is no more. Beautiful. Lines to be

01:32:06.489 --> 01:32:08.029
crossed. We are doing what we're supposed to

01:32:08.029 --> 01:32:10.449
be doing. Benny the Butcher. The Butcher's coming.

01:32:10.649 --> 01:32:15.130
That's a legitimately good sign for culture that

01:32:15.130 --> 01:32:17.630
things have gotten better. If you think about

01:32:17.630 --> 01:32:20.229
the stuff that's gotten better, climate change,

01:32:20.310 --> 01:32:23.750
not really. The environment, sort of. Marijuana

01:32:23.750 --> 01:32:27.029
laws, yeah. Sort of, kind of, yeah. But that

01:32:27.029 --> 01:32:28.750
is one thing that you can say, yeah, they figured

01:32:28.750 --> 01:32:30.840
that out. Yeah, we got it right. We got it right,

01:32:30.859 --> 01:32:32.760
and we love each other. And there's a lot of

01:32:32.760 --> 01:32:34.880
East Coast rappers who live on the West Coast.

01:32:35.420 --> 01:32:37.819
You know why? Because no politicians were involved

01:32:37.819 --> 01:32:40.060
in those transactions. Right. It was just us.

01:32:40.699 --> 01:32:41.920
Right? And it was friendship. Everybody's like,

01:32:41.960 --> 01:32:44.319
why are we doing this stupid shit? It don't add

01:32:44.319 --> 01:32:46.640
up. It didn't make any sense. I mean, how many

01:32:46.640 --> 01:32:48.220
fucking rappers are there? There's so many people

01:32:48.220 --> 01:32:50.420
that want to hear hip -hop. There's plenty for

01:32:50.420 --> 01:32:51.859
everybody. We're better when we're together.

01:32:52.319 --> 01:32:54.220
Absolutely. And that happened a lot. Absolutely.

01:32:54.300 --> 01:32:57.399
A lot of times, like, we did tours together where

01:32:57.399 --> 01:33:00.229
artists... We're going to roll together. We did

01:33:00.229 --> 01:33:02.970
one big tour in Australia. It was like a super

01:33:02.970 --> 01:33:10.270
fest. It was me, The Game, Fat Joe, Nelly, Busta

01:33:10.270 --> 01:33:18.270
Rhymes, Bow Wow, Sierra. It was a few others

01:33:18.270 --> 01:33:20.630
out there, too. But it was just so much that

01:33:20.630 --> 01:33:23.590
I just named that was sold for so many different

01:33:23.590 --> 01:33:25.149
parts of the world. And we were in Australia.

01:33:25.729 --> 01:33:29.039
And I swear to you, we bonded. and became brothers

01:33:29.039 --> 01:33:32.260
and to this day to this day we love each other

01:33:32.260 --> 01:33:33.979
and we talk about that experience that we had

01:33:33.979 --> 01:33:38.279
in australia where we all became one beautiful

01:33:38.279 --> 01:33:42.220
hip -hop is beautiful man that is beautiful it's

01:33:42.220 --> 01:33:45.840
50 years old this year is it really yeah 50 years

01:33:45.840 --> 01:33:48.899
old hip -hop i remember when i first heard sugar

01:33:48.899 --> 01:33:53.760
hill gang i was in uh jamaica plane which is

01:33:53.760 --> 01:33:59.270
like uh It's on the outskirts of Boston, and

01:33:59.270 --> 01:34:01.909
I was in, I guess I was in eighth grade because

01:34:01.909 --> 01:34:04.170
it was before high school. And we were in the

01:34:04.170 --> 01:34:07.949
cafeteria, and some dude had, it wasn't a good

01:34:07.949 --> 01:34:10.789
school, and a lot of kids were barely hanging

01:34:10.789 --> 01:34:12.149
on. At the beginning of the year, you'd have

01:34:12.149 --> 01:34:15.409
kids that were like, I was in, I guess I was

01:34:15.409 --> 01:34:18.149
in eighth grade, and you'd have kids that were

01:34:18.149 --> 01:34:21.800
17 in eighth grade. Like, no bullshit. Like there

01:34:21.800 --> 01:34:23.479
was a kid who was fully grown. I was like, why

01:34:23.479 --> 01:34:24.979
is he here? And he was there for a couple of

01:34:24.979 --> 01:34:26.640
days. He could see him like shaking his head

01:34:26.640 --> 01:34:28.500
in the back of the room and he would drop out

01:34:28.500 --> 01:34:30.079
and he would leave. So it wasn't a good school.

01:34:31.520 --> 01:34:33.920
But you heard Sugar Hill Gang. But I was in the

01:34:33.920 --> 01:34:36.640
fucking cafeteria and I heard a hip hop, a hippity

01:34:36.640 --> 01:34:38.420
to the hippity hip hop. And I was like, what

01:34:38.420 --> 01:34:42.180
is that? This is a new kind of music. That shit

01:34:42.180 --> 01:34:44.960
used to be. It was a new kind of music. It was

01:34:44.960 --> 01:34:47.539
so good that everybody in the hood learned every

01:34:47.539 --> 01:34:50.439
word to that song. Of course. And that's, you

01:34:50.439 --> 01:34:55.579
know, no videos, no Instagram, no YouTube, Word.

01:34:55.659 --> 01:34:57.600
You just learned it because it was that fucking

01:34:57.600 --> 01:35:00.619
good. It spread. Why? It spread by word of mouth.

01:35:00.739 --> 01:35:03.939
And if you didn't know it, you were uncool. Yeah.

01:35:04.119 --> 01:35:05.779
But that shit came on and you didn't know it?

01:35:06.859 --> 01:35:08.859
Man, the record companies had some power back

01:35:08.859 --> 01:35:12.880
then, huh? They made you. They could decide.

01:35:13.399 --> 01:35:15.300
They could decide who they could push through.

01:35:16.180 --> 01:35:18.760
Do you know how much fucking rock music that

01:35:18.760 --> 01:35:23.539
I know? Because I grew up in the 80s, like Journey

01:35:23.539 --> 01:35:28.319
and Fleetwood Mac and motherfucking The Eagles,

01:35:28.619 --> 01:35:31.079
just all kind of groups that you wouldn't expect

01:35:31.079 --> 01:35:34.500
me to know because that's all we had prior to

01:35:34.500 --> 01:35:36.680
hip -hop. Because hip -hop wasn't on the radio

01:35:36.680 --> 01:35:39.939
like that because it was new. We're not going

01:35:39.939 --> 01:35:41.399
to let that shit be on the radio. We're going

01:35:41.399 --> 01:35:44.619
to put all, I want to know what love is. All

01:35:44.619 --> 01:35:50.920
this shit. I want you to show me. Wow. I remember

01:35:50.920 --> 01:35:53.359
listening to NWA for the first time on a treadmill.

01:35:54.539 --> 01:35:57.119
The first time I heard NWA, I'm not bullshitting

01:35:57.119 --> 01:35:59.859
that. I went to the gym, and I had to do my workout,

01:36:00.060 --> 01:36:03.180
and I put a, I don't know if it was a CD or a

01:36:03.180 --> 01:36:06.279
cassette. I think it was a CD. And I put it on,

01:36:06.359 --> 01:36:07.899
and because someone told me to get Dude, You

01:36:07.899 --> 01:36:10.659
Gotta Get This, this shit's wild. And I was running

01:36:10.659 --> 01:36:13.699
on a treadmill, and I was like, whoa. I was like,

01:36:13.739 --> 01:36:16.119
this is, okay. And it was sonically together,

01:36:16.220 --> 01:36:18.140
right? The sound of it, right? Oh my God, it

01:36:18.140 --> 01:36:21.420
was amazing. The raps are amazing. Dre made you

01:36:21.420 --> 01:36:22.939
feel like you was watching a movie when you listened

01:36:22.939 --> 01:36:26.699
to that shit. Ice Cube's lyrics. It was like,

01:36:26.739 --> 01:36:33.100
my God. That was my introduction to hardcore

01:36:33.100 --> 01:36:37.279
gangster rap. And then I got involved. I really

01:36:37.279 --> 01:36:40.020
got into the Ghetto Boys. I was a giant Ghetto

01:36:40.020 --> 01:36:43.739
Boys fan. Willie D is another dude, when I'm

01:36:43.739 --> 01:36:47.300
around him, where I kind of like... Kind of fanboy

01:36:47.300 --> 01:36:50.779
and he's so he's the coolest right? He's the

01:36:50.779 --> 01:36:54.079
coolest He's so cool, but I was listening to

01:36:54.079 --> 01:36:57.039
them while I was delivering newspaper I was delivering

01:36:57.039 --> 01:36:58.760
newspapers out of my car throwing newspapers

01:36:58.760 --> 01:37:01.079
out the window listening to the ghetto boys like

01:37:01.079 --> 01:37:03.300
to hang out with him I've had like I've eaten

01:37:03.300 --> 01:37:04.939
dinner with his family. I'm like I can't believe

01:37:04.939 --> 01:37:08.920
I'm really here Mr. Mr. Scarface. Yeah, he's

01:37:08.920 --> 01:37:10.979
got a podcast he does now with Scarface. Yeah.

01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:13.340
Yeah, it's really good. It's really good. Look,

01:37:13.460 --> 01:37:15.500
Willie's a smart motherfucker, and he's really,

01:37:15.619 --> 01:37:18.220
he looks at things from all sorts of different

01:37:18.220 --> 01:37:20.899
angles. He'll look at things from the side. He'll

01:37:20.899 --> 01:37:23.199
look at things. He got wisdom, too. He's not

01:37:23.199 --> 01:37:25.340
a young man. So, you know, when you got that

01:37:25.340 --> 01:37:27.840
information and that knowledge, you know. You

01:37:27.840 --> 01:37:29.479
got a different perspective. And that fucking

01:37:29.479 --> 01:37:32.220
dude can box. Oh, yeah. I seen that. He can box.

01:37:32.260 --> 01:37:33.880
Did he knock Melly Mel out? Yeah, but, I mean,

01:37:33.880 --> 01:37:35.680
he could really box. He showed me one of his

01:37:35.680 --> 01:37:39.079
amateur fights, and I watched him move around.

01:37:39.260 --> 01:37:41.000
They thought Melly Mel was going to win, you

01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:42.819
know, because Melly Mel came in there with muscles.

01:37:43.859 --> 01:37:45.859
It's not like Willie D didn't. It's not like

01:37:45.859 --> 01:37:48.819
he didn't have muscles. No, but Melly Mel just

01:37:48.819 --> 01:37:50.340
ripped. I understand. You know what I'm saying?

01:37:50.420 --> 01:37:53.479
You know when you perspective. Right. It's optics.

01:37:53.699 --> 01:37:56.359
Oh, yeah, for sure. Optics show that. The UFC.

01:37:56.699 --> 01:37:59.359
Right. Right? That was Kimo and Hoyce Gracie.

01:37:59.399 --> 01:38:01.760
Right. Kimo was gigantic. Remember? Yeah. Oh,

01:38:01.760 --> 01:38:05.439
my God. But that's the same thing. But for real,

01:38:05.479 --> 01:38:08.319
Willie can fight. Like, he can really box. Like,

01:38:08.340 --> 01:38:10.420
I've seen him move around. I've seen him tag

01:38:10.420 --> 01:38:12.460
some dude and light him up. And I was like, whoa.

01:38:13.149 --> 01:38:15.390
Like, a professional boxer. If somebody said

01:38:15.390 --> 01:38:18.369
to me, like, hey, there's a guy coming up. He's

01:38:18.369 --> 01:38:20.449
out of Houston, Texas. He's a bad motherfucker.

01:38:20.590 --> 01:38:22.590
Keep an eye on him. And I watch that video. I'd

01:38:22.590 --> 01:38:25.210
be like, whoa. That dude's scary. But that's

01:38:25.210 --> 01:38:28.789
Willie, the rapper. Right. That's what's crazy.

01:38:28.829 --> 01:38:31.689
Here's him right here. Dude, he's fucking good,

01:38:31.850 --> 01:38:34.229
man. He hit that motherfucker so hard, he almost

01:38:34.229 --> 01:38:38.970
fell. Yeah. Dude. This is the Melly Mel fight.

01:38:39.130 --> 01:38:41.210
But there's another one that he had sent me that

01:38:41.210 --> 01:38:43.189
I don't even think, it might not even be online,

01:38:43.409 --> 01:38:49.270
so I can't put it online. We don't want to punish

01:38:49.270 --> 01:38:52.630
Melly Mel. No, that's the OG hip hop. Respect

01:38:52.630 --> 01:38:55.689
the OG Melly Mel. It's not about him, it's about

01:38:55.689 --> 01:39:02.010
the skill of Willie. He can really box. If he

01:39:02.010 --> 01:39:05.029
had decided to, he could have been a professional

01:39:05.029 --> 01:39:08.300
boxer. Legitimately. I feel like that about Wiz

01:39:08.300 --> 01:39:11.300
Khalifa. Like, when I first met Wiz, I was like,

01:39:11.420 --> 01:39:15.960
I can beat Wiz up easy. Now, Wiz will beat my

01:39:15.960 --> 01:39:18.939
ass. Because he know all kind of jujitsu and

01:39:18.939 --> 01:39:21.380
kicks and all kind of shit, so. Well, he really

01:39:21.380 --> 01:39:23.600
got into hitting Muay Thai pads. Man, Wiz is

01:39:23.600 --> 01:39:25.140
a bad motherfucker. He's a beast. And I'm so

01:39:25.140 --> 01:39:27.859
fucking proud of him. And he know, as his uncle,

01:39:27.920 --> 01:39:30.060
that that shit, you know, he inspires me. Like,

01:39:30.060 --> 01:39:32.380
and I need that in my life. I need, you know,

01:39:32.399 --> 01:39:34.220
people like him to inspire me to want to keep

01:39:34.220 --> 01:39:36.529
living and to want to keep being healthy. Yeah.

01:39:37.270 --> 01:39:39.949
Well, he has even been talking about having an

01:39:39.949 --> 01:39:43.510
MMA fight. I don't think he's going to do bad.

01:39:43.569 --> 01:39:45.229
I think he's going to be all right. I bet he'll

01:39:45.229 --> 01:39:46.869
be all right. As long as he's matched up well,

01:39:46.930 --> 01:39:49.250
he'll do fine. Find some celebrity talking shit.

01:39:49.310 --> 01:39:52.069
Let's match him up. Start him off with a celebrity.

01:39:52.149 --> 01:39:55.630
Fuck that. Exactly. Exactly. Who would you get?

01:39:56.029 --> 01:39:58.510
Who do you think you could lure into your trap?

01:39:58.689 --> 01:40:00.989
Yeah, who can you get? I'm not boasting. Like,

01:40:01.069 --> 01:40:04.479
Wiz can actually fight. Like, you watch Wiz kick

01:40:04.479 --> 01:40:07.899
the pads and watch Wiz hit some things. I don't

01:40:07.899 --> 01:40:09.699
know if this is an older one. This is real old

01:40:09.699 --> 01:40:11.500
because he's way more bigger than that. Yeah,

01:40:11.579 --> 01:40:13.979
this is old. See if you can find one that's more

01:40:13.979 --> 01:40:16.359
recent. Wiz is like, God damn it, I just started.

01:40:16.760 --> 01:40:21.380
Joe, did you see that kick I did? I did a high

01:40:21.380 --> 01:40:23.460
-ass kick in my gym one time with my trainer,

01:40:23.500 --> 01:40:26.279
Ernie. Yeah? I know you're going to find that.

01:40:26.279 --> 01:40:31.319
Find that Snoop Dogg Shogun kick. So how often

01:40:31.319 --> 01:40:33.600
are you training? Well, I'm getting back home

01:40:33.600 --> 01:40:35.500
now. I'm supposed to do five days a week. Oh,

01:40:35.560 --> 01:40:37.479
really? Yeah, I do. Do you have someone that

01:40:37.479 --> 01:40:39.260
trains you? Do you work out by yourself? Right

01:40:39.260 --> 01:40:44.899
here, my man Ernie. You don't know Ernie? He

01:40:44.899 --> 01:40:47.500
got that kick coming. Ain't the kick up in there?

01:40:49.819 --> 01:40:53.880
This looks like he's only holding mitts. Oh,

01:40:53.880 --> 01:40:59.819
is this you? Flying sidekick. Come on, Joe. I

01:40:59.819 --> 01:41:02.520
hear you. That's on the first time. I ain't practiced

01:41:02.520 --> 01:41:04.840
it. He just told me when you jump, put your leg

01:41:04.840 --> 01:41:07.119
this way and do that. This is just muscle memory

01:41:07.119 --> 01:41:10.960
on knowing how to be athletic. Just learning

01:41:10.960 --> 01:41:12.579
how to do something like that is great for your

01:41:12.579 --> 01:41:14.560
brain anyway because it's hard to do. Because

01:41:14.560 --> 01:41:16.539
I used to always watch karate movies and be like,

01:41:16.680 --> 01:41:18.180
I wish I could jump. He said, you want to learn

01:41:18.180 --> 01:41:19.760
how to do that? I said, yeah. He said, all you

01:41:19.760 --> 01:41:22.279
got to do is run and put this leg back. I said,

01:41:22.300 --> 01:41:26.439
like that? I said, do it in slow motion. You

01:41:26.439 --> 01:41:28.039
know, somebody pulled that off in a UFC fight?

01:41:28.560 --> 01:41:33.189
I seen that. It was Fabrizio Verdum versus Travis

01:41:33.189 --> 01:41:36.350
Brown. Fabrizio Verdum opened the fight. He ran

01:41:36.350 --> 01:41:39.409
out and did a flying sidekick to Travis's face.

01:41:39.689 --> 01:41:42.869
And good night, Irene. No, he survived it, but

01:41:42.869 --> 01:41:45.289
he got beat up afterwards. But this was crazy.

01:41:45.590 --> 01:41:48.409
Oh, wow. Yeah, just back it up again. Damn. Right

01:41:48.409 --> 01:41:50.449
from the beginning, he comes running out. Watch

01:41:50.449 --> 01:41:55.649
this. Boom. Flying sidekick to the face. I just

01:41:55.649 --> 01:41:57.909
said it. That's how you get shit kicked off.

01:41:58.029 --> 01:42:00.770
That's how you get shit kicked off. I mean, that

01:42:00.770 --> 01:42:03.189
is crazy. That's literally how you get shit kicked

01:42:03.189 --> 01:42:05.550
off. The thing about it is no one would expect

01:42:05.550 --> 01:42:08.210
that from Fabricio because he's a jujitsu expert.

01:42:08.489 --> 01:42:11.130
That was hard. He must have watched my motherfucking

01:42:11.130 --> 01:42:15.310
video. Fabricio, stop watching me. Fabricio was

01:42:15.310 --> 01:42:18.250
a UFC champ. Yes, sir. He's a fucking beast.

01:42:18.470 --> 01:42:20.590
His jujitsu is off the charts. He's one of the

01:42:20.590 --> 01:42:22.369
greatest heavyweights of all time. You look at

01:42:22.369 --> 01:42:25.550
what he's done. That guy tapped out. Cain Velasquez.

01:42:27.380 --> 01:42:32.520
Fedor Milianenko. Who else did he tap out? He's

01:42:32.520 --> 01:42:35.060
tapped out a bunch of, like, super legit guys.

01:42:36.840 --> 01:42:40.100
Wow. Yeah. So he's a one. Yeah. Who else did

01:42:40.100 --> 01:42:42.859
he tap out? He's tapped out quite a few guys.

01:42:43.300 --> 01:42:46.920
Oh, Brandon Vera. He dominated Brandon Vera.

01:42:47.199 --> 01:42:50.020
He had, like, there was a bunch of fights where

01:42:50.020 --> 01:42:52.100
Fabrizio, when he was in his prime, was just

01:42:52.100 --> 01:42:55.140
dominating people. Joe, I got a couple questions

01:42:55.140 --> 01:42:58.409
for you. What's your favorite cereal of all time?

01:43:00.310 --> 01:43:05.850
Maybe Captain Crunch. Me too. Yeah. But... Berry

01:43:05.850 --> 01:43:11.689
or regular? I think regular. Berry's cool too.

01:43:11.909 --> 01:43:17.350
I'm not mad if you got berry. You know? Isn't

01:43:17.350 --> 01:43:18.909
there a peanut butter Captain Crunch too? Yeah,

01:43:18.909 --> 01:43:20.470
they got that too. I think I would always go

01:43:20.470 --> 01:43:23.630
for that. I'm a peanut butter fiend. I like peanut

01:43:23.630 --> 01:43:25.909
butter. What's your favorite cartoon of all time?

01:43:27.590 --> 01:43:34.739
Oh, man. I guess Bugs Bunny. Bugs Bunny? Yeah,

01:43:34.979 --> 01:43:36.859
because I grew up with that. What's up, Doc?

01:43:37.119 --> 01:43:40.220
When I was a kid, Bugs Bunny was full action.

01:43:40.380 --> 01:43:41.800
A lot of shit was happening. People were getting

01:43:41.800 --> 01:43:44.100
shot in the face. I like the rabbit kicked the

01:43:44.100 --> 01:43:46.659
bucket. The rabbit kicked the bucket. The rabbit

01:43:46.659 --> 01:43:49.380
kicked the bucket. I mean, there was a hunter

01:43:49.380 --> 01:43:51.439
that was always literally trying to kill Bugs

01:43:51.439 --> 01:43:54.319
Bunny, and he was so clever that he was relaxed

01:43:54.319 --> 01:43:56.899
around this rabbit. Is that Yosemite Sam? No,

01:43:57.060 --> 01:43:59.840
that was Elmer Fudd. Elmer Fudd was trying to

01:43:59.840 --> 01:44:02.260
kill him? Elmer Fudd was the hunter. Yeah. Yosemite

01:44:02.260 --> 01:44:06.060
Sam was like, I think he was a minor or some

01:44:06.060 --> 01:44:08.899
shit. Wasn't he? Elmer Fudd was the dumb motherfucker.

01:44:09.100 --> 01:44:11.619
He was the gun guy. Yeah, he always gets shot

01:44:11.619 --> 01:44:13.979
in his own goddamn face. His face would be covered

01:44:13.979 --> 01:44:18.579
in powder, in gunpowder. It's rabbit season.

01:44:18.779 --> 01:44:20.720
Do you know that that's what the gun community

01:44:20.720 --> 01:44:23.479
calls people that only buy guns for hunting?

01:44:23.859 --> 01:44:27.100
They call them Fuds. For real? Yeah. Because

01:44:27.100 --> 01:44:30.159
the gun community is filled with gun dorks. And

01:44:30.159 --> 01:44:32.640
they only respect you if you're like super hardcore

01:44:32.640 --> 01:44:36.420
knowledgeable about gun shit like velocity and

01:44:36.420 --> 01:44:39.260
what is a 6 .5 greed more worth anything. Yeah,

01:44:39.319 --> 01:44:42.199
like what do you hunt elk with? 300 Win Mag?

01:44:42.420 --> 01:44:45.399
They have like how many grains of fucking is

01:44:45.399 --> 01:44:48.699
your bullets? And so when people don't care about

01:44:48.699 --> 01:44:52.600
that, when people are only into guns for hunting

01:44:52.600 --> 01:44:55.460
and they're not into like all the specifics and

01:44:55.460 --> 01:44:57.939
they're not into like, you know, pistol fucking

01:44:57.939 --> 01:45:01.140
competitions and shit. They call them fuds. Elmer's

01:45:01.140 --> 01:45:04.760
nephews. Yeah, because it's like the Second Amendment

01:45:04.760 --> 01:45:07.000
is divided, just like everything is divided.

01:45:07.359 --> 01:45:09.739
There's people that want the guns just for hunting,

01:45:09.800 --> 01:45:11.460
and there's people that want the guns for personal

01:45:11.460 --> 01:45:14.220
protection. Right. So it's like everything else.

01:45:14.520 --> 01:45:17.960
Even in the world of guns, people turn on each

01:45:17.960 --> 01:45:21.439
other. They call each other names. What did you

01:45:21.439 --> 01:45:24.000
expect? They're a bunch of fuds. These fucking

01:45:24.000 --> 01:45:26.079
losers over there that only want guns for meat.

01:45:26.670 --> 01:45:30.069
And that's the National Rifle? Yeah. Well, they're

01:45:30.069 --> 01:45:32.069
just trying to, I mean, I get what they're trying

01:45:32.069 --> 01:45:35.569
to do. They feel like there's a not -so -hidden

01:45:35.569 --> 01:45:38.630
agenda where people want to take away the right

01:45:38.630 --> 01:45:41.050
of regular people to have guns. And what they're

01:45:41.050 --> 01:45:43.750
saying is you've got to look at all the countries

01:45:43.750 --> 01:45:46.489
where that happens. It's never good for the population.

01:45:46.789 --> 01:45:49.409
Right. It's just not. It's just not. No, you

01:45:49.409 --> 01:45:50.829
got to be able to protect yourself. You got to

01:45:50.829 --> 01:45:52.750
be able to protect yourself. You can't count

01:45:52.750 --> 01:45:55.029
on the police to be there all the time. Not in

01:45:55.029 --> 01:45:57.590
our neighborhood. Fuck all that. Exactly. In

01:45:57.590 --> 01:46:00.029
the hood, we with this shit. Keep guns in our

01:46:00.029 --> 01:46:02.109
motherfucking hands. Well, you know, Killer Mike

01:46:02.109 --> 01:46:03.970
had a lot of good conversations with Bernie Sanders

01:46:03.970 --> 01:46:06.609
about that. Oh, yeah. Mike is sharp. He's very

01:46:06.609 --> 01:46:09.210
sharp. And Bernie Sanders is obviously very...

01:46:09.449 --> 01:46:13.670
anti -gun. Bernie would want to enact some sort

01:46:13.670 --> 01:46:16.310
of sweeping gun regulations, but the reality

01:46:16.310 --> 01:46:19.170
of the access, the amount of guns that are available,

01:46:19.430 --> 01:46:21.350
there's no fucking way you're going to keep guns

01:46:21.350 --> 01:46:23.649
away from people that are willing to break the

01:46:23.649 --> 01:46:27.189
law. There's no way. They're a useful tool, and

01:46:27.189 --> 01:46:29.510
there's too many of them. So the only solution

01:46:29.510 --> 01:46:35.100
is let anybody have a gun. Let people have access

01:46:35.100 --> 01:46:41.020
if they can prove to be mentally competent. And

01:46:41.020 --> 01:46:44.140
what does that even mean? Because you could have

01:46:44.140 --> 01:46:47.020
a doctor who's just an anti -gun activist who

01:46:47.020 --> 01:46:48.600
decides they're going to say everyone's crazy

01:46:48.600 --> 01:46:50.819
and no one can have a license. You could manipulate

01:46:50.819 --> 01:46:55.779
that. But the thing is, like, it sounds wrong,

01:46:55.899 --> 01:46:58.859
but ultimately this is what our founding fathers

01:46:58.859 --> 01:47:02.329
thought. You've got to let people be. free to

01:47:02.329 --> 01:47:04.649
make the choices they want to make. And if you

01:47:04.649 --> 01:47:08.029
don't do that, you're going to fuck it up for

01:47:08.029 --> 01:47:10.029
everybody. We've got to figure out what's right

01:47:10.029 --> 01:47:13.829
and what's wrong. If it's wrong for everybody

01:47:13.829 --> 01:47:16.770
to have a gun, we have to figure out a way to

01:47:16.770 --> 01:47:20.210
make people safe. And it's not going to be through

01:47:20.210 --> 01:47:23.710
law enforcement. There's going to be a way where,

01:47:23.750 --> 01:47:25.630
as a community, we have to figure out how to

01:47:25.630 --> 01:47:28.659
come together. If you're going to go house to

01:47:28.659 --> 01:47:30.880
house and take everybody's guns, you can't do

01:47:30.880 --> 01:47:32.899
that in America. It's too late. You maybe could

01:47:32.899 --> 01:47:34.819
have done that like the way they did it to Australia.

01:47:35.460 --> 01:47:38.199
Australia in the 1990s, they took away everybody's

01:47:38.199 --> 01:47:40.699
guns after they had a mass shooting. But there's

01:47:40.699 --> 01:47:43.460
too many guns in America. So the strategy has

01:47:43.460 --> 01:47:46.520
got to be let's get everybody at least try to

01:47:46.520 --> 01:47:49.100
get everybody to be more polite and kind to each

01:47:49.100 --> 01:47:51.119
other. More responsible. More responsible. More

01:47:51.119 --> 01:47:54.699
responsible with your weapons. Not like seek

01:47:54.699 --> 01:47:59.170
out division. No. You know, not in forced division.

01:47:59.789 --> 01:48:05.149
Have it for protection if needed. Yeah. Walks

01:48:05.149 --> 01:48:07.069
off and carry a big stick. That's usually what

01:48:07.069 --> 01:48:11.689
I do. We just need the whole country on a slight

01:48:11.689 --> 01:48:17.390
drip of ecstasy. Just a subtle micro -dose drip,

01:48:17.569 --> 01:48:21.600
you know? The feeling that people have when they're

01:48:21.600 --> 01:48:23.500
all just filled with love, they don't want any

01:48:23.500 --> 01:48:26.399
problems. And have some ABM music playing in

01:48:26.399 --> 01:48:32.000
the background. Yeah, exactly. Not overwhelming,

01:48:32.239 --> 01:48:34.340
just like you're on the outside of a festival.

01:48:34.939 --> 01:48:37.340
You're out by where the port -a -potties are,

01:48:37.479 --> 01:48:39.479
like that level of music. Yeah, coming up next,

01:48:39.539 --> 01:48:44.880
we got Marshmello, followed by David Guetta.

01:48:50.760 --> 01:48:54.420
Make it fun. Yeah. Make it exciting. Make it

01:48:54.420 --> 01:48:56.600
exciting. What's the biggest crowd you've ever

01:48:56.600 --> 01:49:00.520
performed in front of? Live 8. How big was that?

01:49:00.739 --> 01:49:06.920
Probably like 300 ,000, 400 ,000. Jesus. Yeah.

01:49:07.079 --> 01:49:11.859
Woo! Yes, sir. 300 ,000 or 400 ,000 human beings.

01:49:12.199 --> 01:49:17.060
Yeah, Live 8 in London. Holy shit. What does

01:49:17.060 --> 01:49:20.609
that feel like? You know what? When I'm on stage,

01:49:20.810 --> 01:49:25.310
I'm in the zone, so I'm like, I pay attention

01:49:25.310 --> 01:49:29.189
to them, but I lock into me. Right. Meaning that

01:49:29.189 --> 01:49:33.130
I'd become somebody else, so I'm always engaged

01:49:33.130 --> 01:49:36.750
with them, but I'm so into what I'm doing at

01:49:36.750 --> 01:49:39.890
that time, I can't look at all them people because

01:49:39.890 --> 01:49:42.369
that should have thrown me off. Right. Yeah,

01:49:42.510 --> 01:49:47.020
I know what you mean. It seems like it gets,

01:49:47.079 --> 01:49:49.739
the larger the crowds get, it gets to almost

01:49:49.739 --> 01:49:52.300
like it stabilizes, where there's the same feeling.

01:49:52.539 --> 01:49:55.699
10 ,000 is the same feeling as 20 ,000, right?

01:49:56.260 --> 01:49:58.359
500. Look at the size of that crowd, though.

01:49:58.659 --> 01:50:05.920
Oh, I couldn't handle that. That's so big. That's

01:50:05.920 --> 01:50:08.680
Live Aid. This is Live Aid in London? Yeah. Wow.

01:50:09.720 --> 01:50:13.140
2005. Oh, my God. That's Charlie Wilson from

01:50:13.140 --> 01:50:16.220
the Gab Band up there with me. This crowd, if

01:50:16.220 --> 01:50:19.479
you're just listening, this crowd is like, man,

01:50:19.600 --> 01:50:23.760
I want to see a vision of the crowd again. Yeah,

01:50:23.760 --> 01:50:27.380
right there, right there. This crowd is like

01:50:27.380 --> 01:50:31.319
eight football fields long. And it's so big.

01:50:31.899 --> 01:50:35.199
It's so big. It's so big it doesn't even make

01:50:35.199 --> 01:50:39.720
sense. And this is 2005. Did they have any kind

01:50:39.720 --> 01:50:41.460
of monitors where the people could watch that

01:50:41.460 --> 01:50:43.340
were in the way, way, way back? Or are they just

01:50:43.340 --> 01:50:47.829
hearing it? That's a good question. Because it

01:50:47.829 --> 01:50:50.329
doesn't look like they got any behind them, but

01:50:50.329 --> 01:50:54.029
that's just visuals. So they have to use binoculars

01:50:54.029 --> 01:50:57.630
and shit. Jamie, go right back for a couple seconds.

01:50:58.360 --> 01:51:00.859
Look at that one dude with the golf shirt, with

01:51:00.859 --> 01:51:02.939
the tan golf shirt, the left side of the screen.

01:51:03.000 --> 01:51:04.880
He's like, what the fuck am I doing here? That

01:51:04.880 --> 01:51:07.720
bald dad looking dude. And he's like, Jesus Christ,

01:51:07.819 --> 01:51:09.880
what is this? I didn't pay for this shit. It's

01:51:09.880 --> 01:51:11.439
getting on that. He's in an argument right now

01:51:11.439 --> 01:51:12.939
with his girlfriend. He's like, what the fuck

01:51:12.939 --> 01:51:16.079
am I doing with my life? Look at his face. Look

01:51:16.079 --> 01:51:19.060
at the old school selfie though. Yeah, old school.

01:51:19.140 --> 01:51:20.680
You have to put a camera in front of your own

01:51:20.680 --> 01:51:24.079
face. Look how crazy this is. This is the biggest

01:51:24.079 --> 01:51:27.020
crowd I've ever seen. What's the biggest crowd

01:51:27.020 --> 01:51:30.800
that, well, no, when Be Real was on, and he was

01:51:30.800 --> 01:51:33.960
telling us about, what was it, Woodstock, that

01:51:33.960 --> 01:51:37.119
second Woodstock they did? Yeah, 1999. That was

01:51:37.119 --> 01:51:39.760
like half a million. Remember that? He showed

01:51:39.760 --> 01:51:42.899
the pictures of that? Glastonbury was big, too.

01:51:43.020 --> 01:51:44.720
How big is that? I did that with the Gorillaz.

01:51:45.039 --> 01:51:49.060
Pull that up, Glastonbury, Life of the Plastic

01:51:49.060 --> 01:51:51.140
Beach. Did the Gorillaz, did they have their

01:51:51.140 --> 01:51:53.979
animation going on in the back? Yep. Oh, my God.

01:51:54.239 --> 01:51:59.810
Is that it? Holy fuck. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

01:51:59.909 --> 01:52:03.909
Look at that. I'll be forgetting about this shit,

01:52:03.989 --> 01:52:06.050
Joe, because it's like Michael Jordan. He didn't

01:52:06.050 --> 01:52:07.770
get to watch his highlights until he was finished

01:52:07.770 --> 01:52:10.090
with his career. I still got some more games

01:52:10.090 --> 01:52:11.529
to play, so it's kind of hard to watch these

01:52:11.529 --> 01:52:14.050
highlights. But back up and watch that. Back

01:52:14.050 --> 01:52:16.390
up and watch. Let me see that again. A little

01:52:16.390 --> 01:52:17.970
bit before that. Right there. That's it. Play

01:52:17.970 --> 01:52:20.689
it from there. What the fuck, dude? What the

01:52:20.689 --> 01:52:23.670
fuck? That shit don't even look real. It looks

01:52:23.670 --> 01:52:27.250
like 10. Football field's long. But see, if you

01:52:27.250 --> 01:52:30.569
notice, see how calm I am up there? I'm not letting

01:52:30.569 --> 01:52:35.369
that make me so... I'm standing in pocket. You

01:52:35.369 --> 01:52:39.550
do have a diamond -encrusted apparatus around

01:52:39.550 --> 01:52:41.750
your microphone that says Snoop Dogg on it. That

01:52:41.750 --> 01:52:44.289
gives you a little confidence. Fuck Thanos. My

01:52:44.289 --> 01:52:46.630
motherfucking... Go back to the piano play. Hold

01:52:46.630 --> 01:52:49.170
on. Let me see that thing. Fuck Thanos. Look

01:52:49.170 --> 01:52:54.079
at that. Fuck Thanos' glove. What would you even

01:52:54.079 --> 01:52:56.800
call that? A mic cover? When you buy that shit

01:52:56.800 --> 01:52:59.720
from your jeweler, how do you order one of those?

01:52:59.979 --> 01:53:03.079
That's a part of my microphone. You can just

01:53:03.079 --> 01:53:04.800
sit the microphone down and all that shit. Who

01:53:04.800 --> 01:53:07.119
made that for you? A jeweler? Yeah, King Ice.

01:53:07.180 --> 01:53:10.300
And I put my hands around it like a ring. That's

01:53:10.300 --> 01:53:14.180
amazing. That's amazing. So they can see me.

01:53:15.119 --> 01:53:18.020
From everywhere. See my band, my piano player?

01:53:18.199 --> 01:53:20.199
Yes. He more into it than anybody. Oh, yeah.

01:53:20.220 --> 01:53:24.579
Look at him. That is the craziest crowd I've

01:53:24.579 --> 01:53:28.619
ever seen. That and, like I said, would be real

01:53:28.619 --> 01:53:33.699
footage. I did Glastonbury by myself, but I did

01:53:33.699 --> 01:53:36.279
one with the Gorillaz. How old were you when

01:53:36.279 --> 01:53:44.130
you hit? 1991. I was 20. 20. how hard was it

01:53:44.130 --> 01:53:46.609
to just, like, maintain your sanity while you

01:53:46.609 --> 01:53:50.270
were becoming insanely famous? It was slow. It

01:53:50.270 --> 01:53:52.170
wasn't fast. It wasn't fast? No, because the

01:53:52.170 --> 01:53:54.210
attention was on Dr. Dre, and we was just, like,

01:53:54.250 --> 01:53:58.029
pieces around him because he was leaving NWA.

01:53:58.529 --> 01:54:01.449
Right. So he was the one getting most of the

01:54:01.449 --> 01:54:04.229
attention until the music came out, and then

01:54:04.229 --> 01:54:07.630
people heard me and was, like, you know, attracted

01:54:07.630 --> 01:54:10.729
to my voice and my style. Which made us do my

01:54:10.729 --> 01:54:12.850
record. And then from there, then you can start

01:54:12.850 --> 01:54:15.510
feeling the success because now I'm on my own.

01:54:15.550 --> 01:54:17.430
It's my own record. It's not his record. It's

01:54:17.430 --> 01:54:20.390
mine. Right. I got to do press. I got to do TV.

01:54:20.430 --> 01:54:23.289
I got to do interviews. I got to do shows. So

01:54:23.289 --> 01:54:26.510
we became like, damn, this shit is a job. Yeah.

01:54:26.970 --> 01:54:30.609
But in a sense out of, I mean, you were like

01:54:30.609 --> 01:54:33.430
a protege, right? Yeah. That's amazing. To be

01:54:33.430 --> 01:54:37.310
able to be a young rapper and have Dr. Dre as

01:54:37.310 --> 01:54:40.960
like a mentor. from the beginning stages, from

01:54:40.960 --> 01:54:44.359
shaping and molding, from Dr. Dre, DOC, Warren

01:54:44.359 --> 01:54:47.020
G, to all the people that helped me, you know.

01:54:47.119 --> 01:54:50.319
Yeah, and us as fans. Yeah. That's how we took

01:54:50.319 --> 01:54:53.579
it in. As a fan, I was like, oh, okay, this guy

01:54:53.579 --> 01:54:56.199
is in with Dr. Dre, so this must be like similar,

01:54:56.380 --> 01:55:00.220
at least similar quality, similar mindset, similar

01:55:00.220 --> 01:55:03.420
artistic level. when groups get together and

01:55:03.420 --> 01:55:06.140
support. That really didn't happen in rock and

01:55:06.140 --> 01:55:08.479
roll. That happened more in the hip -hop community

01:55:08.479 --> 01:55:12.880
than anything. Hip -hop artists would do guest

01:55:12.880 --> 01:55:16.500
spots on each other's albums regularly. That's

01:55:16.500 --> 01:55:20.819
not that common in rock and roll. That was way

01:55:20.819 --> 01:55:24.760
more a hip -hop thing. Yeah, because we love

01:55:24.760 --> 01:55:26.859
each other. That's why I say the East Coast,

01:55:26.939 --> 01:55:29.439
West Coast shit wasn't really real, because if

01:55:29.439 --> 01:55:32.039
you check facts... artists was doing with each

01:55:32.039 --> 01:55:37.939
other before during and after yes yeah it's just

01:55:37.939 --> 01:55:40.260
unfortunate that it became a narrative and then

01:55:40.260 --> 01:55:42.739
like young guys coming up probably thought they

01:55:42.739 --> 01:55:46.439
wanted to support that narrative to ensure their

01:55:46.439 --> 01:55:49.659
position in the social chain i don't think that

01:55:49.659 --> 01:55:51.939
that narrative will ever pop up again because

01:55:51.939 --> 01:55:54.359
yeah it was the worst of the worst and now people

01:55:54.359 --> 01:55:57.260
loving the way it feel now to where all of our

01:55:57.260 --> 01:55:59.619
influences are a part of everything meaning that

01:56:00.230 --> 01:56:02.189
There's a lot of West Coast influence in the

01:56:02.189 --> 01:56:03.890
East. There's a lot of East Coast influence in

01:56:03.890 --> 01:56:05.810
the West and the South and likewise. It's like

01:56:05.810 --> 01:56:09.470
we all complement each other now. That's what

01:56:09.470 --> 01:56:11.729
it should be for everybody with everything we

01:56:11.729 --> 01:56:15.189
do. And as comedians, we're really lucky that

01:56:15.189 --> 01:56:17.250
that never happened. It never became an East

01:56:17.250 --> 01:56:20.619
Coast, West Coast thing. We would joke around

01:56:20.619 --> 01:56:23.260
about guys from the cellar or guys from the comedy

01:56:23.260 --> 01:56:25.460
store or whatever, but everybody, when they met

01:56:25.460 --> 01:56:28.060
each other, it was all hugs and love and everybody's

01:56:28.060 --> 01:56:29.960
happy that there's someone out there doing it.

01:56:30.819 --> 01:56:33.399
There's not a whole lot of us. When it comes

01:56:33.399 --> 01:56:35.800
to stand -up comedians, there's not that many

01:56:35.800 --> 01:56:41.060
of us overall in the world. So to not be supportive

01:56:41.060 --> 01:56:44.020
of each other is fucking stupid. To not be supportive

01:56:44.020 --> 01:56:48.310
of the up -and -coming ones is horrible. that's

01:56:48.310 --> 01:56:50.750
like suicidal yeah because it's your sport and

01:56:50.750 --> 01:56:53.510
y 'all exactly y 'all the stars of the sports

01:56:53.510 --> 01:56:55.310
y 'all got to keep the spirit alive and you get

01:56:55.310 --> 01:56:57.770
a chance to set like what you're doing you get

01:56:57.770 --> 01:57:00.510
a chance to set the standard for how young guys

01:57:00.510 --> 01:57:03.510
coming up and young girls coming up you can see

01:57:03.510 --> 01:57:05.890
someone who's like cool and friendly and lives

01:57:05.890 --> 01:57:09.210
like a wonderful existence where like you you

01:57:09.210 --> 01:57:13.529
have managed to navigate the waters of like Being

01:57:13.529 --> 01:57:16.029
a very famous person in the most masterful way

01:57:16.029 --> 01:57:19.329
like everyone loves you man It's there's something

01:57:19.329 --> 01:57:23.609
about that the choices you've made and the way

01:57:23.609 --> 01:57:26.489
You've gotten to where you've gotten and who

01:57:26.489 --> 01:57:30.829
you are now. There's so much hope for young people

01:57:31.449 --> 01:57:34.949
In terms of the ability to achieve a state of

01:57:34.949 --> 01:57:37.930
mind where everywhere you go, it's smiles and

01:57:37.930 --> 01:57:42.109
hugs. Smiles and hugs. That's what Snoop Dogg

01:57:42.109 --> 01:57:43.850
has figured out. That's what you've figured out.

01:57:43.949 --> 01:57:46.729
You've figured out to get to a state where most

01:57:46.729 --> 01:57:50.409
of your existence is smiles and hugs. That's

01:57:50.409 --> 01:57:53.350
love. That's beautiful you say that because I

01:57:53.350 --> 01:57:56.029
get all that from my mama. I was touched by an

01:57:56.029 --> 01:57:58.750
angel. I had an angel for a mother. That's what

01:57:58.750 --> 01:58:01.670
she taught me. She taught me real love. I'm just

01:58:01.670 --> 01:58:04.510
an example of what she wanted me to be. So I

01:58:04.510 --> 01:58:06.970
love hearing that. That's beautiful. I really

01:58:06.970 --> 01:58:08.770
love hearing that because this is all that she

01:58:08.770 --> 01:58:10.329
wanted me to be, and this is all I'm going to

01:58:10.329 --> 01:58:13.710
be. That's all you should be. Why be anything

01:58:13.710 --> 01:58:16.449
else? It's awesome. Why? We were so lucky, you

01:58:16.449 --> 01:58:19.090
know? We're lucky that we get to live in this

01:58:19.090 --> 01:58:22.949
strange world. We're lucky that we get to be

01:58:22.949 --> 01:58:27.090
in a job that lets you be free. I mean, you showed

01:58:27.090 --> 01:58:32.010
up with a boombox plan. I kind of want you to

01:58:32.010 --> 01:58:34.010
play that video that we just saw. I'll play anything

01:58:34.010 --> 01:58:36.369
you want. You just let me know. It's a video.

01:58:36.430 --> 01:58:39.329
He can pull it up. But for the folks at home,

01:58:39.470 --> 01:58:41.689
Snoop is the first person ever to show up in

01:58:41.689 --> 01:58:45.130
the studio with a boombox blaring his own music.

01:58:48.069 --> 01:58:52.550
Blaring his own music, just smooth. Slid it in

01:58:52.550 --> 01:58:54.850
on you one time. Wearing a silk gypsy bandana.

01:58:55.289 --> 01:58:58.869
Promotions. Beautiful jewelry. It was like if

01:58:58.869 --> 01:59:00.789
I ever wanted to meet Snoop Dogg, it was the

01:59:00.789 --> 01:59:05.489
best way ever to meet him. Because people might

01:59:05.489 --> 01:59:07.310
not know. You and I have chatted on the phone

01:59:07.310 --> 01:59:09.449
real quick, but this is the first time we've

01:59:09.449 --> 01:59:11.729
met Matt. Right, up close and personal. Yeah,

01:59:11.810 --> 01:59:13.750
and hung out. And we shared a room together.

01:59:13.970 --> 01:59:15.989
Yes, yes. Full of smoke and drink. Here's one

01:59:15.989 --> 01:59:18.350
more toast to the boogie, Joe. Yes, sir. Salute,

01:59:18.350 --> 01:59:23.960
my brother. This is the group with me, Ice Cube,

01:59:24.020 --> 01:59:26.079
Too Short, and E -40. We're called Mount Westmore.

01:59:26.279 --> 01:59:29.119
Yeah. This was the first single off of the Algorithm

01:59:29.119 --> 01:59:31.979
album. It's called Big Subwoofer. Where we going,

01:59:32.000 --> 01:59:34.000
dog? Shit, we're going to go to Planet Snoopeter

01:59:34.000 --> 01:59:36.899
where the bitches is blue, man. Snoopeter? Man,

01:59:37.000 --> 01:59:39.319
why Snoopy dog always get to fly? I'm the flyest

01:59:39.319 --> 01:59:41.979
motherfucker in here, though. Hey, you a shooter,

01:59:42.119 --> 01:59:44.619
man. No, I'm the shooter. I say we just get the

01:59:44.619 --> 01:59:46.260
fuck up out of here. Y 'all ready? Let's do it.

01:59:46.300 --> 02:00:13.810
Let's go. Yosemite. Got my 40 on me, that's my

02:00:13.810 --> 02:00:16.609
mini -me. Damn near anything I want, I can afford

02:00:16.609 --> 02:00:20.369
it. Never hustle backwards, always forward. I

02:00:20.369 --> 02:00:23.329
can multitask, always on the grind. I can walk

02:00:23.329 --> 02:00:26.810
and chew gum at the same time. I ain't on hiatus,

02:00:26.850 --> 02:00:28.949
I ain't missing an action. I'm the center of

02:00:28.949 --> 02:00:31.189
attention, bitch, the main attraction. When I

02:00:31.189 --> 02:00:34.409
enter the turf, when I pull up, people gather

02:00:34.409 --> 02:00:37.029
around me like an ice cream truck. People always

02:00:37.029 --> 02:00:39.930
ask me what I do for a living. I wear many hats.

02:00:40.350 --> 02:00:42.670
I'm something like lead. I love licorice sex.

02:00:43.069 --> 02:00:45.489
Booty and breasts. A couple stretch marks and

02:00:45.489 --> 02:00:48.050
cellulite on her flesh. She got her legs open

02:00:48.050 --> 02:00:50.470
like a field goal pile. Booty softer than the

02:00:50.470 --> 02:00:54.470
King Hawaiian roll. Booty softer than the King

02:00:54.470 --> 02:00:56.630
Hawaiian roll. You know about them soft Hawaiian

02:00:56.630 --> 02:01:16.109
rolls? You've had a few. Big sub, woofer bouncing

02:01:16.109 --> 02:01:19.340
like a trampoline. Glass shake when I roll past

02:01:19.340 --> 02:01:22.340
the scene. Candy apple paint dripping glassy

02:01:22.340 --> 02:01:25.279
green. Everybody eating, you can ask the team.

02:01:25.460 --> 02:01:27.920
Faster than me. Speakers bumping, tags is clean.

02:01:28.180 --> 02:01:30.739
Keep me something to smoke on. Bad bitch to poke

02:01:30.739 --> 02:01:33.380
on. Bass hit like a earthquake. You niggas hold

02:01:33.380 --> 02:01:35.640
on. I hit the block and roll on. My bitch got

02:01:35.640 --> 02:01:38.500
ass like two 18s. Her favorite two short song

02:01:38.500 --> 02:01:42.039
is in those jeans. Shake it, baby, if you like

02:01:42.039 --> 02:01:44.779
this song. Do a nasty dance every time they turn

02:01:44.779 --> 02:02:05.380
it on. It's got more bass than bass. We'll be

02:02:05.380 --> 02:02:20.180
right back. We'll be right back. big titty hooker

02:02:20.180 --> 02:02:23.819
cocaine cooker rooftop looker looked out and

02:02:23.819 --> 02:02:27.680
saw tj hooker jumped off the roof like superfly

02:02:27.680 --> 02:02:30.859
snooker you know me i'm up in it like a booger

02:02:30.859 --> 02:02:33.399
then i treat the bitch like some dice and i shook

02:02:33.399 --> 02:02:36.079
her i heard this youngin screaming like a woman

02:02:36.079 --> 02:02:38.720
yelling that they coming nigga we ain't running

02:02:38.720 --> 02:02:42.800
it's a new day still got the ak if these bitches

02:02:42.800 --> 02:02:45.739
want to take it back to 88 turn the music down

02:02:46.239 --> 02:02:48.420
Before we lock in horns. Keep the party going.

02:02:48.680 --> 02:03:08.939
It's a false alarm. Always. Yeah, everything

02:03:08.939 --> 02:03:11.659
has like a pop at the end of it, you know? He's

02:03:11.659 --> 02:03:14.460
always been so distinct. That's my OG, you know

02:03:14.460 --> 02:03:17.359
what I mean? That was the guy before me that

02:03:17.359 --> 02:03:20.380
I always going to hold a special place in my

02:03:20.380 --> 02:03:24.979
top five. Always. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Now, when

02:03:24.979 --> 02:03:29.960
he came out, there was an angry edge to the way

02:03:29.960 --> 02:03:33.319
he would rap. That was infectious. It was great

02:03:33.319 --> 02:03:35.979
if you were on the treadmill. It was great if

02:03:35.979 --> 02:03:39.279
you was on the track selling that dope. I'm sure.

02:03:40.859 --> 02:03:43.899
Inspirational. Inspirational. Yeah. Music can

02:03:43.899 --> 02:03:46.720
be inspirational as fuck. Music is almost like

02:03:46.720 --> 02:03:49.640
a drug. If you could sell the feeling that you

02:03:49.640 --> 02:03:53.699
get, like if a really good song comes on, the

02:03:53.699 --> 02:03:56.060
feeling that you get out of that, like, oh, shit.

02:03:56.760 --> 02:03:58.779
If you could get that out of a drug, you would

02:03:58.779 --> 02:04:02.489
definitely take it. Matter of fact, I wasn't

02:04:02.489 --> 02:04:03.869
even thinking when you was talking about the

02:04:03.869 --> 02:04:07.949
East Coast, West Coast thing. Murder music, find

02:04:07.949 --> 02:04:11.609
that. I just dropped that yesterday. That is

02:04:11.609 --> 02:04:13.369
going to show you where hip -hop is at right

02:04:13.369 --> 02:04:16.430
now. That song is also on the Algorithm album.

02:04:16.649 --> 02:04:18.729
I know it sounds like a false plug, but the shit,

02:04:18.770 --> 02:04:20.289
watch when you see it. It's going to show you

02:04:20.289 --> 02:04:23.090
where we at right now with hip -hop. Turn that

02:04:23.090 --> 02:04:27.529
up. We up in this motherfucker. On some murder,

02:04:27.550 --> 02:04:34.090
murder. Kill, kill shit. Yeah. Maybe the butcher

02:04:34.090 --> 02:04:37.329
Jada gets them busted. Murder music just for

02:04:37.329 --> 02:04:39.369
this type of shit. They could ban us. Cause this

02:04:39.369 --> 02:04:40.909
what they gonna play when they wipe they prints

02:04:40.909 --> 02:04:43.069
off the hammers. I'm really like that. I ain't

02:04:43.069 --> 02:04:45.029
just write this shit for the camera. I did it

02:04:45.029 --> 02:04:47.250
in my city. What Michael Vick did in Atlanta.

02:04:47.470 --> 02:04:49.930
Cash saved for insurance. Them bad days was a

02:04:49.930 --> 02:04:52.510
forest. Still hood. Roach clips in the ashtrays

02:04:52.510 --> 02:04:55.409
of my foreign. In LA. R &B bitch drunk with her

02:04:55.409 --> 02:04:57.649
hands around me. The night Swiss introduced me

02:04:57.649 --> 02:05:00.069
to Nas at a Grammy party. When my strip introduced

02:05:00.069 --> 02:05:02.609
me to hard I had grams around me. A star player

02:05:02.609 --> 02:05:04.510
never asked for the bar they just playing around

02:05:04.510 --> 02:05:06.800
me. Niggas heard I took a shot. They was asking

02:05:06.800 --> 02:05:08.720
if I was good. I looked the shooter right in

02:05:08.720 --> 02:05:11.539
his eyes when that trigger got pulled. Huh? Murder

02:05:11.539 --> 02:05:16.340
music. Murder music. Murder music. Murder music.

02:05:16.779 --> 02:05:21.270
Yeah. Yeah. Murder music. Murder music. Murder

02:05:21.270 --> 02:05:24.270
music. Some come through the water. Some come

02:05:24.270 --> 02:05:26.310
through the border. Some of them get caught,

02:05:26.369 --> 02:05:28.930
but that's depending on the porter. Old niggas

02:05:28.930 --> 02:05:32.149
hiding. Young niggas sliding. I'm being a man,

02:05:32.229 --> 02:05:34.909
just protecting and providing. My only concern

02:05:34.909 --> 02:05:37.609
is if it cook right. My chain yellow, way the

02:05:37.609 --> 02:05:40.210
diamonds set up. It make it look white. Kill

02:05:40.210 --> 02:05:42.310
you for nothing, cause they petty. Cutting the

02:05:42.310 --> 02:05:44.829
dog food with the fetty. They young, but they

02:05:44.829 --> 02:05:48.069
ready. No crowd. I get my applaud off the beat.

02:05:48.109 --> 02:05:51.189
I'm a boss. I'll make sure all of us eat. Say

02:05:51.189 --> 02:05:53.829
a couple funerals will bring a war to a cease.

02:05:53.970 --> 02:05:56.750
And remember, it ain't no reward for the streets.

02:05:56.949 --> 02:05:59.949
This is not normal. Dickie Suits is how we dress

02:05:59.949 --> 02:06:02.029
formal. The way I'm riding this track's like

02:06:02.029 --> 02:06:04.449
a porno. All right then, what's up then? I'm

02:06:04.449 --> 02:06:06.829
busting every controlled substance. I touched

02:06:06.829 --> 02:06:09.770
it, I know it's disgusting. I'm just stacking.

02:06:09.949 --> 02:06:13.310
Call me El Guapo. And I bet you never had a brick

02:06:13.310 --> 02:06:16.229
from El Chapo. Tuesday, I just play the crib

02:06:16.229 --> 02:06:18.840
and make tacos. A lot of niggas front. like they

02:06:18.840 --> 02:06:21.460
nice but they not though y 'all spoke that up

02:06:21.460 --> 02:06:24.500
now soak that up they done pulled my coat the

02:06:24.500 --> 02:06:41.479
goat got up what's up these are three elites

02:06:41.479 --> 02:06:43.640
east coast rappers right here man it's 2021.

02:06:44.300 --> 02:06:49.119
come on buster rhymes kill this I only got time

02:06:49.119 --> 02:06:51.220
to murder shit. I bang them while deafening both

02:06:51.220 --> 02:06:53.800
ears. When I'm making niggas black and rep couches

02:06:53.800 --> 02:06:56.359
and throw chairs. At times I be unleashing a

02:06:56.359 --> 02:06:59.020
raft that most fear. I don't discriminate. I

02:06:59.020 --> 02:07:01.460
even body close peers. See, I'm suggesting most

02:07:01.460 --> 02:07:03.140
you niggas should get this step into the rear.

02:07:03.319 --> 02:07:05.859
And fuck what most you niggas are taught. I don't

02:07:05.859 --> 02:07:08.060
care. If you don't rep it right, you shouldn't

02:07:08.060 --> 02:07:10.859
come around here. Adjust my level up. Make sure

02:07:10.859 --> 02:07:12.840
my niggas sound clear. They want to stop and

02:07:12.840 --> 02:07:14.939
want to steer. They hate that I'm the best and

02:07:14.939 --> 02:07:17.399
it's greatness. And it's pointless to compare.

02:07:17.720 --> 02:07:19.520
You need to describe this jewelry I write to

02:07:19.520 --> 02:07:21.659
save this shit on a server. And type the way

02:07:21.659 --> 02:07:23.779
that I speak for moving space on a cursor. I'm

02:07:23.779 --> 02:07:25.779
not an advocate for violence, but push me. I'm

02:07:25.779 --> 02:07:27.659
going to push it further. The script. Hand on

02:07:27.659 --> 02:07:29.760
my hip, squeezing the grip a little firmer. These

02:07:29.760 --> 02:07:31.560
dumb niggas don't realize that it's better to

02:07:31.560 --> 02:07:33.859
be a learner. Stupid nip. When you don't, that's

02:07:33.859 --> 02:07:35.579
when you get the feeling of burner. Shut the

02:07:35.579 --> 02:07:37.319
fuck up. It's better to be watchers, listeners,

02:07:37.359 --> 02:07:39.340
and observers. Because if you not, you fuck around.

02:07:39.460 --> 02:07:41.600
That's how niggas like you get murdered. Murder

02:07:41.600 --> 02:07:46.750
music. Murder music. Murder music. Murder music.

02:07:47.109 --> 02:07:52.310
Yeah. Murder music. Murder music. Murder music.

02:07:52.890 --> 02:07:58.189
Yeah. Murder music. Murder music. Murder music.

02:07:58.670 --> 02:08:09.350
Yeah. Murder music. Murder music. Didn't Busta

02:08:09.350 --> 02:08:13.109
Rhymes just lose a ton of weight? He got really

02:08:13.109 --> 02:08:16.369
fit, right? Have you seen that, Jamie? Busta

02:08:16.369 --> 02:08:20.189
Rhymes, he took some before and after pictures,

02:08:20.270 --> 02:08:23.590
too. He documented the whole experience. Did

02:08:23.590 --> 02:08:25.989
he? Yeah, he documented it, I think. We're going

02:08:25.989 --> 02:08:27.569
to try to find a way to help him get that put

02:08:27.569 --> 02:08:29.729
out so people can see that, his whole transformation.

02:08:29.729 --> 02:08:32.050
I hope he puts it out where everybody can see

02:08:32.050 --> 02:08:34.109
it, like YouTube or something. Yeah, put that

02:08:34.109 --> 02:08:36.210
out. Yeah, if you see the pictures, it's remarkable.

02:08:36.850 --> 02:08:40.149
I mean, he went from looking like a guy who's,

02:08:40.149 --> 02:08:43.409
you know, getting a little heavy. To physically

02:08:43.409 --> 02:08:46.710
fit. Yeah, to ripped, to Wiz Khalifa ripped.

02:08:46.829 --> 02:08:49.630
Right. He's ripped. Super strong. He looks amazing.

02:08:49.989 --> 02:08:51.989
Like, he actually went all the way to the end.

02:08:52.170 --> 02:08:54.439
He did that. He made it to the finish line. Some

02:08:54.439 --> 02:08:56.420
guys get close. Like, look at the difference.

02:08:58.340 --> 02:09:01.800
I mean, he's got a six pack. That's crazy. If

02:09:01.800 --> 02:09:03.659
you look at the one picture on the left, he looks

02:09:03.659 --> 02:09:06.300
like he's, you know, many pounds overweight and

02:09:06.300 --> 02:09:09.819
not exercising. And next to it, it's him with

02:09:09.819 --> 02:09:13.340
a six pack. Like, he went all the way across

02:09:13.340 --> 02:09:15.829
the finish line. Like, that's what every fat

02:09:15.829 --> 02:09:17.729
guy wants. Like, what do you want out of this

02:09:17.729 --> 02:09:19.710
workout program? Like, if you were working with

02:09:19.710 --> 02:09:21.390
a fitness trainer, like, put that picture up.

02:09:21.489 --> 02:09:23.670
This is what I did for Busta Rhymes. I can do

02:09:23.670 --> 02:09:26.090
this for you. He'd be like, oh, fuck, I'm in.

02:09:26.130 --> 02:09:27.289
What do you got to do? Just listen to everything

02:09:27.289 --> 02:09:29.170
I say. You're going to eat everything I tell

02:09:29.170 --> 02:09:30.810
you to eat, and we're going to fucking do this.

02:09:30.930 --> 02:09:33.699
Are you ready? And if you did listen to that

02:09:33.699 --> 02:09:36.140
fucking guy and did what Busta Rhymes did. Here's

02:09:36.140 --> 02:09:38.159
the thing about six packs. You don't get that

02:09:38.159 --> 02:09:40.279
shit for free. You could say that you could lose

02:09:40.279 --> 02:09:42.420
some weight and your abs will show. But if your

02:09:42.420 --> 02:09:45.640
abs are bullshit under your no fat body, it's

02:09:45.640 --> 02:09:47.840
not going to look good. Busta Rhymes has big

02:09:47.840 --> 02:09:51.020
ab muscles. Those look big. That's strength.

02:09:51.319 --> 02:09:54.680
That's strength. Yeah. He broke that shit down.

02:09:54.899 --> 02:09:58.180
Yeah. That's not like a skinny waist where you

02:09:58.180 --> 02:10:00.760
see a little bit of abs, but there's no power

02:10:00.760 --> 02:10:04.520
behind it. That's a powerful six pack. That's

02:10:04.520 --> 02:10:06.479
how fuck you up six pack. Shout out to Busta

02:10:06.479 --> 02:10:08.239
Busta for being committed to getting this shit

02:10:08.239 --> 02:10:10.020
together. Yeah, shout out to Busta Rhymes. Doing

02:10:10.020 --> 02:10:13.000
that and putting that out there for everybody

02:10:13.000 --> 02:10:15.619
to see that that's possible, that you can go

02:10:15.619 --> 02:10:18.939
from being overweight and not feeling good about

02:10:18.939 --> 02:10:21.239
yourself to being shredded. Yeah. Fuck yeah.

02:10:21.420 --> 02:10:25.050
Good shit. We all get better from that. And that's

02:10:25.050 --> 02:10:26.609
what people have to understand. When you see

02:10:26.609 --> 02:10:29.609
someone succeeding, the people that haven't succeeded

02:10:29.609 --> 02:10:32.029
yet, sometimes there's a tendency for them to

02:10:32.029 --> 02:10:35.449
get angry at people like yourself or anybody

02:10:35.449 --> 02:10:38.510
that has succeeded. And they get upset. But they

02:10:38.510 --> 02:10:40.350
need to see the struggle. If they see the struggle,

02:10:40.489 --> 02:10:42.010
then they can understand it a little bit better

02:10:42.010 --> 02:10:44.210
to see that it was hard work that was put in

02:10:44.210 --> 02:10:46.069
to get into that point. And they just got to

02:10:46.069 --> 02:10:47.750
believe that one day it's going to be them too.

02:10:47.850 --> 02:10:50.369
The angriest guys are all the guys that think

02:10:50.369 --> 02:10:52.729
it's not going to happen to them. Those are the

02:10:52.729 --> 02:10:56.829
guys that they think everybody else is going

02:10:56.829 --> 02:10:58.310
to make it and they're not going to make it.

02:10:58.329 --> 02:11:01.529
And it's a self -fulfilling prophecy. I wish

02:11:01.529 --> 02:11:03.630
I could have said that clearer. Self -fulfilling

02:11:03.630 --> 02:11:06.510
prophecy. Self -fulfilling prophecy. Yeah, because

02:11:06.510 --> 02:11:08.729
they create so much bad energy because they're

02:11:08.729 --> 02:11:10.369
worried that everybody's going to fuck them over,

02:11:10.430 --> 02:11:12.449
that everybody just wants to avoid them. Yeah.

02:11:12.529 --> 02:11:15.470
Shake, rattle, and roll. But like I was saying,

02:11:15.550 --> 02:11:18.789
that is 2021. That's Benny the Butcher, Jadakiss,

02:11:18.869 --> 02:11:21.010
Busta Rhymes, Snoop Dogg. Three East Coast rappers

02:11:21.010 --> 02:11:23.850
and one West Coast rapper all on one song, pushing

02:11:23.850 --> 02:11:25.550
and promoting peace through that murder music.

02:11:25.810 --> 02:11:27.689
And that's just showing you the mind state of

02:11:27.689 --> 02:11:31.670
hip hop today that we've put so far past that,

02:11:31.750 --> 02:11:36.329
that that's where we at. That's beautiful. That's

02:11:36.329 --> 02:11:38.800
beautiful. Hip hop in general. I mean, if you

02:11:38.800 --> 02:11:41.600
really stop and think about it, it's one of the

02:11:41.600 --> 02:11:46.500
most recent art forms in the world in terms of,

02:11:46.500 --> 02:11:49.380
like, something that it's one of the most impactful,

02:11:49.579 --> 02:11:53.159
right? I mean, think about how many songs are

02:11:53.159 --> 02:11:55.899
used for, like, how many, like, Frankie Edgar

02:11:55.899 --> 02:11:58.859
to this day comes out to Biggie, you know? I

02:11:58.859 --> 02:12:03.380
mean, how much influence has hip -hop had? I

02:12:03.380 --> 02:12:07.560
think we got six. inductees in the Hall of Fame,

02:12:07.600 --> 02:12:09.939
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. That's amazing. I

02:12:09.939 --> 02:12:15.199
think we got Public Enemy, NWA, Tupac, Biggie,

02:12:15.359 --> 02:12:22.439
LL, Jay -Z. Right? There should be a lot more.

02:12:22.659 --> 02:12:24.899
Yeah, but I mean, it's a start. You got to start

02:12:24.899 --> 02:12:26.840
somewhere. It's beautiful that that's a start,

02:12:26.979 --> 02:12:30.239
but they should go back to Cool G Rap. They should

02:12:30.239 --> 02:12:32.939
get Gangstar in there. True. True indeed. There's

02:12:32.939 --> 02:12:35.899
a lot. That should be in there. But the problem

02:12:35.899 --> 02:12:38.979
with award shows is without award shows, with

02:12:38.979 --> 02:12:41.380
awards, how many people are deciding awards?

02:12:41.960 --> 02:12:46.460
The people have spoken. The people have said

02:12:46.460 --> 02:12:50.199
that this art form that really didn't even emerge

02:12:50.199 --> 02:12:53.100
until the late 70s, right? When was the first

02:12:53.100 --> 02:12:58.579
ever recognized hip -hop? What was the first

02:12:58.579 --> 02:13:01.779
rap music? What year? It was before the Sugarhill

02:13:01.779 --> 02:13:03.619
Gang. It was people that was making hip -hop

02:13:03.619 --> 02:13:05.699
that probably didn't have record deals. And it

02:13:05.699 --> 02:13:07.680
was people that was rapping on songs, too, like

02:13:07.680 --> 02:13:11.640
Rudy Ray Moore and Clarence Reed, Blowfly. Blowfly

02:13:11.640 --> 02:13:15.680
had a song called Rap Dirty. See what year that

02:13:15.680 --> 02:13:17.960
came out. Rudy Ray Moore was a comic, right?

02:13:18.180 --> 02:13:20.060
Yeah, but Rudy Ray Moore was a comic, but he

02:13:20.060 --> 02:13:23.239
made music, and his music had rhymes and riddles

02:13:23.239 --> 02:13:26.439
and shit in it. What year was that? Early 70s.

02:13:26.840 --> 02:13:29.479
So Blowfly was one of the first ones to have

02:13:29.479 --> 02:13:31.520
a real song when he was rapping. What year did

02:13:31.520 --> 02:13:35.899
Rap Dirty come out? 1980? So as comedians, we

02:13:35.899 --> 02:13:39.979
have a godfather. Our godfather of comedy is

02:13:39.979 --> 02:13:42.420
Lenny Bruce. That's the guy. And that's Richard

02:13:42.420 --> 02:13:45.210
Pryor's guy. Exactly. And Richard Pryor was the

02:13:45.210 --> 02:13:47.850
great one. Richard Pryor was the guy who took

02:13:47.850 --> 02:13:51.590
the original guy that started out the Hoist Gracie,

02:13:51.590 --> 02:13:55.350
right? And he took it to a whole new place, to

02:13:55.350 --> 02:13:59.250
a place that transcended everything. And then

02:13:59.250 --> 02:14:01.569
everything else came from there. Is there someone

02:14:01.569 --> 02:14:04.229
like that from hip -hop? Is there one person

02:14:04.229 --> 02:14:06.369
that you look back and say, that's the Hoist

02:14:06.369 --> 02:14:11.090
Gracie of hip -hop? It would probably be Hollywood.

02:14:11.789 --> 02:14:13.310
Because Russell Simmons just gave me some game

02:14:13.310 --> 02:14:16.890
on Hollywood. Hollywood and then... Who's Hollywood?

02:14:17.229 --> 02:14:22.609
He's one of the first DJ MCs to rap and DJ and

02:14:22.609 --> 02:14:26.350
MC at the same time. His name is Hollywood out

02:14:26.350 --> 02:14:28.789
of New York. And I'm just getting my history

02:14:28.789 --> 02:14:30.930
on him. And I'm going to sit down with him and

02:14:30.930 --> 02:14:33.149
do a one -on -one conversation with him so I

02:14:33.149 --> 02:14:35.109
get the full insight. But I know Russell Simmons

02:14:35.109 --> 02:14:37.470
told me he was one of the forefathers to this

02:14:37.470 --> 02:14:40.130
shit. And then Kool Herc definitely. And Kool

02:14:40.130 --> 02:14:42.869
Herc had a rapper that was with him that was

02:14:42.869 --> 02:14:46.270
rapping. So those three are like the trifectas

02:14:46.270 --> 02:14:51.149
to creating this thing called hip -hop. And then

02:14:51.149 --> 02:14:54.770
from there, it's Sugar Hill, and then everything

02:14:54.770 --> 02:14:57.149
that follows. It's everything that follows what's

02:14:57.149 --> 02:15:00.560
starting. with sugar hill run dmc houdini sugar

02:15:00.560 --> 02:15:03.199
hill is recognized as being like the first first

02:15:03.199 --> 02:15:05.819
first round the first record like the first shot

02:15:05.819 --> 02:15:08.819
fired the first clean yeah record that was shot

02:15:08.819 --> 02:15:10.979
around the world that made hip -hop officially

02:15:10.979 --> 02:15:15.979
a real thing right and then run dmc made it motherfucking

02:15:15.979 --> 02:15:19.420
official ll cool j came behind and made a superficial

02:15:19.420 --> 02:15:24.289
public enemy NWA. Changed everything. Ice -T.

02:15:24.289 --> 02:15:28.170
Yes. KRS -One. Oh, my God. Biz Markie. Big Daddy

02:15:28.170 --> 02:15:31.590
Kane. H -U -S -T -L -E -R. Hustler. I would listen

02:15:31.590 --> 02:15:33.130
to that when I was delivering newspapers, too.

02:15:33.909 --> 02:15:36.529
Six in the morning, police at my door. Fresh

02:15:36.529 --> 02:15:40.590
Adidas squeaking across the bathroom floor. Dude,

02:15:40.770 --> 02:15:43.890
I've been an Ice -T fan since the 80s as well.

02:15:44.550 --> 02:15:46.510
Ice -T is my OG. Have you ever had him on your

02:15:46.510 --> 02:15:49.079
podcast? No, I definitely would, though. I would

02:15:49.079 --> 02:15:51.399
love to. You never had iced tea on? No, I would.

02:15:51.880 --> 02:15:54.960
I get nervous around people that I was like,

02:15:54.979 --> 02:15:58.100
you know, those giant fans of when I was a kid.

02:15:58.680 --> 02:16:00.920
Like legit, that's the people that make me nervous.

02:16:02.159 --> 02:16:05.100
It's like I can meet people when I'm an adult.

02:16:05.579 --> 02:16:08.220
And it makes sense to me. But when I think about

02:16:08.220 --> 02:16:10.960
the people that I was, like, giant fans of when

02:16:10.960 --> 02:16:13.659
I was a kid and then I meet them, it's just weird.

02:16:13.899 --> 02:16:16.220
You're still a kid to them. Yeah, I'm still a

02:16:16.220 --> 02:16:17.859
kid. I'm the same way. When I'm around Magic

02:16:17.859 --> 02:16:20.699
Johnson and, you know, people like that. Even

02:16:20.699 --> 02:16:22.619
around, like, Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy didn't

02:16:22.619 --> 02:16:24.939
kick it a couple times, but I'm just different

02:16:24.939 --> 02:16:26.819
around him because that motherfucker. He make

02:16:26.819 --> 02:16:28.579
me nervous. He was the one. When I was a kid,

02:16:28.680 --> 02:16:30.970
like, this motherfucker was. The funniest nigga

02:16:30.970 --> 02:16:33.270
ever. He makes me nervous. And for him to know

02:16:33.270 --> 02:16:35.129
who I am, to have me come over his house, that

02:16:35.129 --> 02:16:37.309
shit threw me off. Like, damn, Eddie Murphy want

02:16:37.309 --> 02:16:39.989
to hang out with me, man. I'm nervous as a motherfucker

02:16:39.989 --> 02:16:41.790
right now. I only got to meet Eddie once because

02:16:41.790 --> 02:16:44.629
I'm friends with Charlie, and it was at a resort

02:16:44.629 --> 02:16:48.389
in Maui, just random. And I ran into Charlie's

02:16:48.389 --> 02:16:49.950
cousin. I'm like, hey, what are you doing here,

02:16:50.069 --> 02:16:52.149
man? And he goes, I'm here with Charlie. Eddie's

02:16:52.149 --> 02:16:53.989
here. He goes, you want to come by and say hi?

02:16:54.270 --> 02:16:55.569
I go, where are they? He goes, they're having

02:16:55.569 --> 02:16:58.489
lunch right now. I'm like, oh, my God. I went

02:16:58.489 --> 02:17:00.969
over and sat down and I was hanging out with

02:17:00.969 --> 02:17:03.450
Charlie Murphy and Eddie Murphy. And I was like,

02:17:03.469 --> 02:17:05.049
this is the craziest shit I've ever experienced

02:17:05.049 --> 02:17:07.209
in my life. The Murphy boys? It didn't even seem

02:17:07.209 --> 02:17:10.450
real. Eddie Murphy's a guy that you talk to,

02:17:10.510 --> 02:17:12.569
you're like, I can't believe you're right there.

02:17:14.209 --> 02:17:17.489
You know? That's my guy. Let's see if the OG

02:17:17.489 --> 02:17:19.129
gonna pick up. He probably on the set. You trying

02:17:19.129 --> 02:17:23.329
to call him? On the set of the SUV show. CSI.

02:17:23.409 --> 02:17:25.729
Don't he be doing that? Who's on that? Ice -T.

02:17:26.409 --> 02:17:29.170
Oh, yeah. Special Victims Unit. That's what it

02:17:29.170 --> 02:17:36.829
is. SVI. S -U -N -I -T. S -V -U. You don't know

02:17:36.829 --> 02:17:39.889
it. I don't. There's always somebody getting

02:17:39.889 --> 02:17:42.049
done bad on that shirt. Every time I look up,

02:17:42.049 --> 02:17:43.729
there's somebody getting done bad. They gave

02:17:43.729 --> 02:17:47.190
Ice -T a day job. He getting that money. Exactly.

02:17:47.629 --> 02:17:50.889
Ice getting that bread. For real. I seen him

02:17:50.889 --> 02:17:54.809
on a commercial with Stone Cold Steve. He's done

02:17:54.809 --> 02:17:58.780
everything. But when I was a kid, Ice -T was,

02:17:59.020 --> 02:18:04.100
you know, I mean. He was the epitome. He was

02:18:04.100 --> 02:18:08.319
one of the original. From 6 in the morning, I

02:18:08.319 --> 02:18:13.840
mean, and then when he started doing heavy metal

02:18:13.840 --> 02:18:18.319
music and he played Cop Killer. Wow. People don't

02:18:18.319 --> 02:18:21.860
understand how dangerous that was to do that

02:18:21.860 --> 02:18:25.790
pre -internet. At that time? At that time. Like,

02:18:25.790 --> 02:18:30.389
here's something to consider. When you see that

02:18:30.389 --> 02:18:33.709
there's good cops and bad cops, and you see a

02:18:33.709 --> 02:18:37.030
lot of the bad cop videos on Instagram and YouTube

02:18:37.030 --> 02:18:40.170
and all that stuff that comes out. Wow. You get

02:18:40.170 --> 02:18:42.750
a chance to see them now. During the Ice -T days

02:18:42.750 --> 02:18:45.270
when he made Cop Killer, you didn't get to see

02:18:45.270 --> 02:18:48.829
shit. Hell no. Nobody had a camera. So he was

02:18:48.829 --> 02:18:53.020
taking a chance. He was taking a wild chance.

02:18:53.020 --> 02:18:55.360
He was taking a chance with his life, too. Legitimately.

02:18:56.100 --> 02:18:58.559
Like, they had to be thinking about taking his

02:18:58.559 --> 02:19:01.659
life. There had to be, like, a few bad cops.

02:19:01.940 --> 02:19:03.940
That was the first time somebody had really spoke

02:19:03.940 --> 02:19:06.739
up. And WA had spoke, but they didn't say cop,

02:19:06.879 --> 02:19:09.559
killer. Exactly. They said, fuck the police.

02:19:09.639 --> 02:19:11.979
This motherfucker said cop. And he had the white

02:19:11.979 --> 02:19:14.600
crowd with him because he was on some, like.

02:19:15.430 --> 02:19:17.469
Syndicate shit. He was playing metal. It was

02:19:17.469 --> 02:19:20.010
metal. Yeah. What was the name of that band again?

02:19:20.010 --> 02:19:25.430
Rhyme Syndicate. Rhyme Syndicate. That was his...

02:19:25.430 --> 02:19:30.069
That was his... That was Art Eagle. Yeah. So

02:19:30.069 --> 02:19:33.030
he would do that, and it was like... He just

02:19:33.030 --> 02:19:34.889
had a different way of expressing himself. So

02:19:34.889 --> 02:19:38.280
he had his... ice tea records and then he had

02:19:38.280 --> 02:19:40.020
the records that he did where he was screaming

02:19:40.020 --> 02:19:42.959
metal music what he noticed i'm a cop killer

02:19:42.959 --> 02:19:45.639
what he noticed was when he was making them hood

02:19:45.639 --> 02:19:50.059
records and he started doing shows his fans Look

02:19:50.059 --> 02:19:52.520
like that metal audience. Yes. And I feel like

02:19:52.520 --> 02:19:53.719
he probably was like, you know what, I need to

02:19:53.719 --> 02:19:55.780
make something for you motherfuckers. Since y

02:19:55.780 --> 02:19:57.360
'all want me to be rocked the fuck out, let me

02:19:57.360 --> 02:20:00.059
rock out one time. I think he likes it too, though.

02:20:00.180 --> 02:20:02.260
Yeah. It's both of those things. It's that he

02:20:02.260 --> 02:20:04.479
likes it too. He got to love it the way he was

02:20:04.479 --> 02:20:05.899
doing it. He was screaming and doing all the

02:20:05.899 --> 02:20:07.879
shit that they do, rocking out. There was a guy

02:20:07.879 --> 02:20:09.639
that I used to do taekwondo with, and he was

02:20:09.639 --> 02:20:13.360
a cop. And he liked that song. And me and him

02:20:13.360 --> 02:20:16.090
were talking. you know he's a black dude too

02:20:16.090 --> 02:20:18.610
and we were talking i go does that song with

02:20:18.610 --> 02:20:21.610
you he goes no he goes i love that song he's

02:20:21.610 --> 02:20:28.370
just like can't sing around other cops so it's

02:20:28.370 --> 02:20:31.309
like so in your car you're a cop and in your

02:20:31.309 --> 02:20:34.770
car you're driving around going i'm a cop killer

02:20:34.770 --> 02:20:37.930
like he like excuse me turn that shit down and

02:20:37.930 --> 02:20:40.829
he's a cop That's fucking crazy. It was hilarious.

02:20:41.010 --> 02:20:43.190
We were laughing so hard because we were like,

02:20:43.229 --> 02:20:45.489
this is so crazy. But that's what music do, though.

02:20:45.770 --> 02:20:47.690
And break those barriers. Yeah. And break all

02:20:47.690 --> 02:20:50.729
walls. It's also like when you are hearing a

02:20:50.729 --> 02:20:52.930
song from that perspective, this perspective

02:20:52.930 --> 02:20:55.950
is about a person who's literally afraid of being

02:20:55.950 --> 02:20:58.530
murdered by a cop. Right. Because that has happened.

02:20:58.610 --> 02:21:01.329
We all know that's happened. So when you hear

02:21:01.329 --> 02:21:03.610
that, you put yourself in the position of that

02:21:03.610 --> 02:21:05.930
person singing that song. That's what everybody

02:21:05.930 --> 02:21:08.069
does. One of the things that everybody loves

02:21:08.069 --> 02:21:12.379
about a great song, you know. Kick in the door,

02:21:12.379 --> 02:21:15.340
wave in the 4 -4. All you heard was, Papa, don't

02:21:15.340 --> 02:21:19.059
hit me no more. You imagine you're the person

02:21:19.059 --> 02:21:23.079
saying those things. Right. That's what's happening

02:21:23.079 --> 02:21:25.899
for the people that are tuning in and listening.

02:21:26.579 --> 02:21:29.399
It's so valuable. The engagement of knowing that

02:21:29.399 --> 02:21:32.079
that is you when you listen to the song. That's

02:21:32.079 --> 02:21:34.659
why you're so into it because you feel like he's

02:21:34.659 --> 02:21:38.139
talking about me. And that you could imagine

02:21:38.139 --> 02:21:41.379
you, if you were at your best, being that guy.

02:21:41.579 --> 02:21:43.219
You can imagine if you get your shit together,

02:21:43.440 --> 02:21:45.719
you could be talking like Biggie and making everybody

02:21:45.719 --> 02:21:48.959
look stupid. Right. You know? That shit crazy.

02:21:49.020 --> 02:21:53.219
One night we was in L .A. and it was like we

02:21:53.219 --> 02:21:56.020
was in Hollywood somewhere. And Pac had Biggie

02:21:56.020 --> 02:21:58.520
with him. And we was just on stage rapping and

02:21:58.520 --> 02:22:01.540
shit. And everybody was freestyling Warren G,

02:22:01.799 --> 02:22:05.260
Biggie. Pac and myself. It may be some video

02:22:05.260 --> 02:22:08.639
footage of that. See if you can find that. Biggie,

02:22:08.659 --> 02:22:12.239
Snoop, Tupac, Warren G, freestyling in Hollywood.

02:22:12.680 --> 02:22:15.860
Wow. Yeah, that shit was hard. And we didn't

02:22:15.860 --> 02:22:18.819
really know cuz at the time. So we was looking

02:22:18.819 --> 02:22:20.940
like, who is this fat motherfucker rapping? When

02:22:20.940 --> 02:22:23.340
he started rapping, niggas was like, shh. When

02:22:23.340 --> 02:22:25.379
them words came out of his mouth, motherfucker

02:22:25.379 --> 02:22:27.079
stopped looking at what he looked like and was

02:22:27.079 --> 02:22:30.299
like, shit, he hard as fuck. One of my favorite

02:22:30.299 --> 02:22:33.260
videos in all of hip hop is Biggie on the corner

02:22:33.260 --> 02:22:36.899
in Brooklyn when he was 17 years old. Have you

02:22:36.899 --> 02:22:39.399
ever seen that? Yeah. Let's see this shit right

02:22:39.399 --> 02:22:46.559
here. There's people in the crowd. Tupac and

02:22:46.559 --> 02:22:51.719
Biggie on stage. Wow. Corrupt. B -Tip. K -Dub.

02:22:57.870 --> 02:23:01.209
Do you think when it comes to people who... He

02:23:01.209 --> 02:23:04.049
wasn't even on Death Row Records. This is the

02:23:04.049 --> 02:23:08.309
crazy part. They go Biggie right there. And what

02:23:08.309 --> 02:23:12.110
year was this? 93. He wasn't even on Death Row

02:23:12.110 --> 02:23:15.090
Records. He was just my homeboy that came through

02:23:15.090 --> 02:23:19.350
to fuck with me. And he brought Cuz Woody. See,

02:23:19.389 --> 02:23:22.309
now Biggie on the mic. They go Warren G right

02:23:22.309 --> 02:23:30.739
there. Technique. He had an explosive style.

02:23:30.739 --> 02:23:34.360
He on the West Coast. This is in L .A. How good

02:23:34.360 --> 02:23:43.040
is his style? He rapping over Warren G .B. Give

02:23:43.040 --> 02:23:51.219
me some volume, Jamie. Missed it. See if you

02:23:51.219 --> 02:23:53.319
can find that video of him when he was 17 years

02:23:53.319 --> 02:23:56.760
old on a street corner. That's one of my favorites

02:23:56.760 --> 02:23:59.040
because you see like a dude who's like, you know

02:23:59.040 --> 02:24:01.659
Just a couple of years removed from being a kid.

02:24:01.840 --> 02:24:03.799
Well, see people don't even know that exists,

02:24:03.899 --> 02:24:06.500
right? You just gave us some exclusive shit right

02:24:06.500 --> 02:24:08.559
there. That's on YouTube, but they don't know

02:24:08.559 --> 02:24:11.299
it exists. Here it is. This is my favorite. Give

02:24:11.299 --> 02:24:20.159
me some volume He's in front of a grocery store

02:24:20.159 --> 02:24:46.370
folks The rhythm, but just the... You imagine?

02:24:56.809 --> 02:24:59.290
Being out there and seeing a 17 -year -old kid

02:24:59.290 --> 02:25:01.649
rapping like that, you're like, oh, it's over.

02:25:02.149 --> 02:25:13.170
It's over. That was so good, I need a cigar.

02:25:14.969 --> 02:25:18.069
You ever smoke regular cigars? Nah, I don't fuck

02:25:18.069 --> 02:25:22.190
with those. They give me head rush. I gotta have

02:25:22.190 --> 02:25:25.149
my rush. Imagine someone being that good at 17

02:25:25.149 --> 02:25:29.540
years old. Mm -hmm. I know a bunch of cats like

02:25:29.540 --> 02:25:32.399
that. The video we played before only has 4 ,000

02:25:32.399 --> 02:25:34.440
views on it. Wow. That's what I'm trying to tell

02:25:34.440 --> 02:25:37.340
you, Joe. 4 ,000 views? And the only reason why

02:25:37.340 --> 02:25:39.360
I'm saying this is because I seen it one night

02:25:39.360 --> 02:25:41.879
on accident. I only seen a little piece of it,

02:25:41.879 --> 02:25:43.319
and I was like, damn, I remember that night.

02:25:43.879 --> 02:25:46.020
That was like some cool shit we had did. You

02:25:46.020 --> 02:25:47.799
know, Snoop Dogg, young Snoop Dogg before he

02:25:47.799 --> 02:25:50.479
had long hair. So, what is this? This one has

02:25:50.479 --> 02:25:53.500
4 ,600 views. It says, Tupac and Biggie on stage,

02:25:53.719 --> 02:25:57.299
1993 rare. Just try to find that on YouTube and

02:25:57.299 --> 02:26:01.440
it'll pop up. It has 4 ,612 views as of today.

02:26:01.780 --> 02:26:03.639
I bet you next time we talk, that motherfucker

02:26:03.639 --> 02:26:05.979
gonna have 400 -something thousand views. Yeah,

02:26:06.059 --> 02:26:08.979
it's today's November 11th, 2021. This is 93

02:26:08.979 --> 02:26:13.889
when we all cool. Right. We all chilling. Right.

02:26:13.989 --> 02:26:16.309
We on the West Coast. Tupac brought Biggie with

02:26:16.309 --> 02:26:19.350
him. We rocking. We let Cub get down with us.

02:26:19.370 --> 02:26:21.709
We go in the back, smoke, chill, hang out. It's

02:26:21.709 --> 02:26:25.270
beautiful. When did it go sideways? Once Pac

02:26:25.270 --> 02:26:29.670
got shot. When he got shot, he felt like they

02:26:29.670 --> 02:26:31.750
did it. And this was when he got shot in New

02:26:31.750 --> 02:26:33.870
York. Yeah. Before he got shot in Vegas. There

02:26:33.870 --> 02:26:36.969
you go right there. Yeah. So he felt like someone

02:26:36.969 --> 02:26:41.350
from the West Coast was involved. No. Or from

02:26:41.350 --> 02:26:44.729
the East Coast, right? Excuse me. Yes. And later

02:26:44.729 --> 02:26:47.969
information came out that the people that he

02:26:47.969 --> 02:26:49.930
thought did it had nothing to do with it. So

02:26:49.930 --> 02:26:53.610
by him accusing people of it, it kind of set

02:26:53.610 --> 02:26:56.190
things off. And then by him being bailed out

02:26:56.190 --> 02:26:58.170
by Death Row Records and Death Row Records adding

02:26:58.170 --> 02:27:00.469
more gasoline to the fire and him being a part

02:27:00.469 --> 02:27:02.850
of the most gangsterous label in the world that

02:27:02.850 --> 02:27:06.229
his opposition didn't want no issues with. It

02:27:06.229 --> 02:27:09.250
only egged it on as opposed to, let's find a

02:27:09.250 --> 02:27:11.530
resolution. Let's keep making it more of a problem.

02:27:13.069 --> 02:27:15.729
In hindsight, we should have been sitting him

02:27:15.729 --> 02:27:17.870
down saying, no, let's not go after him. Let's

02:27:17.870 --> 02:27:21.229
just make great music. You're on bail right now.

02:27:21.309 --> 02:27:23.450
He wasn't even out of jail. He was out on bail

02:27:23.450 --> 02:27:32.649
when he got killed. It's obviously... you're

02:27:32.649 --> 02:27:35.909
dealing with giant cultural influences and big

02:27:35.909 --> 02:27:38.250
business, too, because the business of rap is

02:27:38.250 --> 02:27:41.030
big business. But there's comparisons to that

02:27:41.030 --> 02:27:44.149
and what's happening with other countries. There

02:27:44.149 --> 02:27:46.590
really is. Yeah, man, them was my friends, man.

02:27:46.690 --> 02:27:48.950
The people can all get along. But, Joe, did you

02:27:48.950 --> 02:27:51.370
see that? Did you see how pure that was? Yes,

02:27:51.370 --> 02:27:54.850
I did. Yeah, I did. We were all young. I was

02:27:54.850 --> 02:27:58.000
22. Yeah. Pac was 22. We was all the same age.

02:27:58.079 --> 02:28:01.379
So it was like, this is us at 22 years old being

02:28:01.379 --> 02:28:04.000
young MCs, competitive. You see the spirit he

02:28:04.000 --> 02:28:05.659
was rapping when he was rapping like he was battling

02:28:05.659 --> 02:28:07.479
the same way he was rapping on the corner. Same

02:28:07.479 --> 02:28:12.079
spirit. But that's what hip hop was. We enjoy

02:28:12.079 --> 02:28:14.920
when somebody could come and hold his own. Yes.

02:28:15.899 --> 02:28:20.680
But what's really crazy is if that's 1993, that

02:28:20.680 --> 02:28:26.649
is at the very most. A 10 -year -old art form.

02:28:29.530 --> 02:28:33.129
15 at the most. 15 at the most. Yeah, 15. Like

02:28:33.129 --> 02:28:36.329
where it really emerges. Right. So within 15

02:28:36.329 --> 02:28:42.549
years, you have from almost no influence to almost

02:28:42.549 --> 02:28:46.610
the most influence. And depending on what month

02:28:46.610 --> 02:28:51.229
that was, either I had just caught the case or

02:28:51.229 --> 02:28:54.329
I hadn't caught the case. And the way I'm looking...

02:28:54.479 --> 02:28:57.940
It don't look like I caught a case. Wow. Just

02:28:57.940 --> 02:28:59.840
by the way I'm moving. Yeah, I'm looking at my

02:28:59.840 --> 02:29:02.520
spirit and my body. You're not thinking about

02:29:02.520 --> 02:29:04.639
it. Yeah, and when I caught the case, all that

02:29:04.639 --> 02:29:07.959
kind of shit was over with. Right. So it's like

02:29:07.959 --> 02:29:15.139
Sugar Hill, Run DMC. Def Jam. Def Jam. And then

02:29:15.139 --> 02:29:18.659
N .W .A. Well, Ice -T's in the mix there as well.

02:29:19.159 --> 02:29:22.040
Too Short, Ghetto Boys. West Coast, South. Yeah,

02:29:22.040 --> 02:29:25.229
and Cool G Rap. Right? There's a lot. There's

02:29:25.229 --> 02:29:26.850
a lot of different shit going on. And then, of

02:29:26.850 --> 02:29:30.090
course, Wu -Tang Clan. Right. They come out after

02:29:30.090 --> 02:29:33.049
me. Yeah. They come out around a month after

02:29:33.049 --> 02:29:35.489
me or probably the same. They came out a little

02:29:35.489 --> 02:29:38.770
bit after me. And then, you know, that almost

02:29:38.770 --> 02:29:41.329
becomes a cult. Like, Wu -Tang Clan's almost

02:29:41.329 --> 02:29:43.430
a cult. And then you can't forget. They're almost

02:29:43.430 --> 02:29:45.670
a religion. Then you can't forget. You can't

02:29:45.670 --> 02:29:47.770
forget Rockefeller. Can't forget that. You can't

02:29:47.770 --> 02:29:51.059
forget No Limit. No. You can't forget. Rough

02:29:51.059 --> 02:29:53.159
Riders. Right. You can't forget Murder, Inc.

02:29:53.600 --> 02:29:55.059
There's certain motherfuckers. You can't forget

02:29:55.059 --> 02:29:57.420
Bad Boy. Mm -hmm. There's certain motherfuckers

02:29:57.420 --> 02:29:59.579
that just took the motherfucking rap a lot. Mm

02:29:59.579 --> 02:30:02.059
-hmm. So, so deaf. Certain motherfuckers just

02:30:02.059 --> 02:30:04.899
came and just said, we got the rap game right

02:30:04.899 --> 02:30:09.799
now. We got this. Yeah. Well, like what you were

02:30:09.799 --> 02:30:13.020
saying about supporting artists, about all...

02:30:13.020 --> 02:30:15.860
I do think that hip -hop might have been the

02:30:15.860 --> 02:30:21.049
first real big... Group of artists that supported

02:30:21.049 --> 02:30:24.370
other artists openly watch this who I'm gonna

02:30:24.370 --> 02:30:26.409
give you a question See if you can answer who's

02:30:26.409 --> 02:30:30.450
the first rapper? To redo another rapper song

02:30:30.450 --> 02:30:38.250
in hip -hop Wow I'll give you the year 1993 Was

02:30:38.250 --> 02:30:41.809
it you sure was Snoop Dogg we did Lottie Dottie

02:30:42.510 --> 02:30:44.530
Slick Rick. Oh, that's right. Slick Rick. That's

02:30:44.530 --> 02:30:46.590
a Slick Rick. Yeah, that's right. That's right.

02:30:46.629 --> 02:30:49.370
You did. I'm the first rapper to remake another

02:30:49.370 --> 02:30:53.350
rapper's song and pay homage to him while they

02:30:53.350 --> 02:30:56.129
were alive. That had never been done before.

02:30:56.170 --> 02:30:58.690
Back then it was called biting if you took somebody

02:30:58.690 --> 02:31:01.430
else's lyrics or songs. But what I did was I

02:31:01.430 --> 02:31:03.309
broke the rule by showing love and saying, no,

02:31:03.469 --> 02:31:05.889
I'm going to remake it because I love him so

02:31:05.889 --> 02:31:08.870
much and I love this song so much. Well, when

02:31:08.870 --> 02:31:11.959
you do that. It doesn't hurt anybody, and it

02:31:11.959 --> 02:31:14.399
helps everybody. When you pretend it's your own

02:31:14.399 --> 02:31:17.100
idea, that's when it hurts everybody. It hurts

02:31:17.100 --> 02:31:20.200
you. It hurts them. It's the first of its kind,

02:31:20.319 --> 02:31:24.299
and I chose East Coast to redo. I could have

02:31:24.299 --> 02:31:27.180
did an Ice -T six in the morning or Eazy -E or

02:31:27.180 --> 02:31:30.459
Ice Cube, but I chose to go that way because

02:31:30.459 --> 02:31:32.879
my spirit was saying that was the most influential

02:31:32.879 --> 02:31:37.500
to me. My workout music used to be Colors. Ooh.

02:31:38.409 --> 02:31:40.430
When that movie came out with Sean Penn, remember

02:31:40.430 --> 02:31:43.549
that movie? I am a knight. Oh, my. Psychopath

02:31:43.549 --> 02:31:49.370
talking. That was... Big fella. Who's that? Can

02:31:49.370 --> 02:31:55.549
you see him? Is that Shaq? Mm -hmm. He's frozen.

02:31:56.329 --> 02:32:00.069
He's got some bad 5G. Something happened. When

02:32:00.069 --> 02:32:02.049
you going to a prom? His image is not moving.

02:32:03.629 --> 02:32:06.510
Is he still connected? It's a poor connection.

02:32:06.750 --> 02:32:09.209
Ah, poor connection. It's not in here. There

02:32:09.209 --> 02:32:15.969
you go. Big Daddy. Shaq? Shaq? What's going on?

02:32:16.209 --> 02:32:18.549
What's happening, brother? How are you? What's

02:32:18.549 --> 02:32:22.129
going on? Put a microphone on him, Stoop. I'm

02:32:22.129 --> 02:32:27.829
good, Shaq. I got my spirit right, man. I can't

02:32:27.829 --> 02:32:32.590
complain. Hey, you know I love you, too. I know

02:32:32.590 --> 02:32:34.290
what this call is. You just checking my spirit,

02:32:34.370 --> 02:32:35.950
making sure I'm right. That's what big brothers

02:32:35.950 --> 02:32:37.690
supposed to do, making sure your brother is right.

02:32:37.750 --> 02:32:39.790
You know I love you. I'm good. I'm straight.

02:32:39.889 --> 02:32:42.510
We sent mama home. My spirit is right. I'm back

02:32:42.510 --> 02:32:44.250
doing what she wouldn't want me to do, be out

02:32:44.250 --> 02:32:46.010
there making people smile and having love in

02:32:46.010 --> 02:32:48.950
there. All right, boy. I love you, boy. Love

02:32:48.950 --> 02:32:50.750
you, too. And I'm knocking that out for you tomorrow,

02:32:50.870 --> 02:32:52.229
too, for the show. I'm getting the first four

02:32:52.229 --> 02:32:55.229
episodes out the way. All right, good. I appreciate

02:32:55.229 --> 02:32:58.610
it. Love you, boy. Turn to mommy. Shaq, good

02:32:58.610 --> 02:33:03.159
to see you, friend. Take care, brother. Peace

02:33:03.159 --> 02:33:07.299
and love. Shaq got a big -ass American flag on

02:33:07.299 --> 02:33:09.239
his shirt. Where the fuck is he going? Shaq?

02:33:09.260 --> 02:33:11.180
You know, we talked about this the other day.

02:33:11.639 --> 02:33:14.799
Shaq's a sheriff. He's like a deputy. You know

02:33:14.799 --> 02:33:17.739
what they say in the hood? What? There's two

02:33:17.739 --> 02:33:20.159
motherfuckers that's controlling the marketing,

02:33:20.239 --> 02:33:23.559
branding TV world right now. Who? Shaq and Snoop.

02:33:23.799 --> 02:33:26.540
Every commercial you see is either Shaq or Snoop.

02:33:26.719 --> 02:33:29.120
Really? Watch TV. There's a lot of Shaq commercials.

02:33:29.239 --> 02:33:31.420
That's a fact. A lot of Snoop commercials, too.

02:33:31.420 --> 02:33:34.719
Just watch. Just keep watching. Damn. But do

02:33:34.719 --> 02:33:38.299
you feel in any way constricted, connected to

02:33:38.299 --> 02:33:41.520
those kind of people, corporate America type

02:33:41.520 --> 02:33:44.620
people? Nah, they love me. They love me because

02:33:44.620 --> 02:33:47.420
I don't know how to do them. I do me. And that's

02:33:47.420 --> 02:33:48.780
what they be missing. They don't want another

02:33:48.780 --> 02:33:50.479
corny motherfucker up in there. They want somebody

02:33:50.479 --> 02:33:52.459
with some style, some grace, and some flair.

02:33:53.079 --> 02:33:55.459
that can give their brands, you know, the shit

02:33:55.459 --> 02:33:57.659
that they miss it. Do you think you could talk

02:33:57.659 --> 02:33:59.940
me through the making of this blunt? Yeah, first

02:33:59.940 --> 02:34:01.979
thing you do is you got to take the edge of it,

02:34:02.040 --> 02:34:04.299
unroll it. And you kind of cut into it with your

02:34:04.299 --> 02:34:06.760
fingernail? Yeah, and then you un -gut it. You

02:34:06.760 --> 02:34:09.219
got to gut it, take all of the tobacco out because

02:34:09.219 --> 02:34:11.420
we don't want no tobacco in there. Why don't

02:34:11.420 --> 02:34:14.760
these backwoods people just admit the truth that

02:34:14.760 --> 02:34:17.260
most of their cigarettes are sold to people who

02:34:17.260 --> 02:34:19.979
want to turn them into blunts? Well... right

02:34:19.979 --> 02:34:21.860
they making their money they don't give a damn

02:34:21.860 --> 02:34:24.159
but they should probably like how about they

02:34:24.159 --> 02:34:25.899
make something with no tobacco in the motherfucker

02:34:25.899 --> 02:34:29.620
huh right yeah cut the shit just one they call

02:34:29.620 --> 02:34:33.299
wink wink yeah cut the shit because otherwise

02:34:33.299 --> 02:34:35.520
people are growing tobacco for no reason like

02:34:35.520 --> 02:34:37.639
what are you gonna do with the tobacco that's

02:34:37.639 --> 02:34:39.750
on that That pad that's in front of us. Throw

02:34:39.750 --> 02:34:41.510
that shit away? Exactly. That's what I'm saying.

02:34:41.969 --> 02:34:44.370
That's ridiculous. That shouldn't be in there.

02:34:44.590 --> 02:34:47.729
We have a problem. We have a communication problem.

02:34:48.129 --> 02:34:50.350
San Antonio, we have a problem. Like Swisher

02:34:50.350 --> 02:34:53.809
Sweets. If they just sold the outside. They would

02:34:53.809 --> 02:34:56.129
win. They would win because they could sell it

02:34:56.129 --> 02:34:58.969
for almost the same price. And less to work.

02:34:59.389 --> 02:35:01.809
Because less to work. And they wouldn't have

02:35:01.809 --> 02:35:05.010
to grow any tobacco for the inside. Just a rat.

02:35:05.430 --> 02:35:08.239
What are we doing? So I put the bud on the inside.

02:35:08.799 --> 02:35:12.680
Is this a revelation? They sell wraps, but they're

02:35:12.680 --> 02:35:15.899
different. Yeah, I don't mean wraps. I mean sell

02:35:15.899 --> 02:35:18.639
the actual outside tobacco leaf. I know, they

02:35:18.639 --> 02:35:20.760
do. They sell the leaf? Yeah, it's just different.

02:35:21.040 --> 02:35:23.559
But they shouldn't sell the inside. Like if they

02:35:23.559 --> 02:35:26.680
only sold the outside, they said blunt wraps.

02:35:27.180 --> 02:35:29.760
Just call it blunt wraps. They got something

02:35:29.760 --> 02:35:32.420
called Fanta Leafs in the leaf. Who does it?

02:35:32.709 --> 02:35:35.069
Lots of people. No, but the Swisher Sweets. Oh,

02:35:35.209 --> 02:35:39.850
them in particular? Or Backwoods? Nope. No. They

02:35:39.850 --> 02:35:41.510
probably don't. They got one called the Fanta

02:35:41.510 --> 02:35:44.750
Leaf where it's a big -ass, long -ass, big leaf,

02:35:44.790 --> 02:35:46.930
and you just tear off what you need as you go.

02:35:46.969 --> 02:35:49.670
You know what I'm saying? And a lot of the Jamaicans,

02:35:49.709 --> 02:35:51.489
the rosters, they do that. They keep that Fanta

02:35:51.489 --> 02:35:54.309
Leaf with them, and they pull it out and roll

02:35:54.309 --> 02:35:56.350
accordingly without having to do all of that.

02:35:56.770 --> 02:35:59.569
That's the way to go. Right. It's interesting

02:35:59.569 --> 02:36:02.989
that tobacco has become a thing in our society,

02:36:03.129 --> 02:36:05.629
in our culture, that we associate with being

02:36:05.629 --> 02:36:09.010
negative. But if you go to these shamanic cultures,

02:36:09.069 --> 02:36:11.129
it's a part of all these psychedelic rituals.

02:36:11.510 --> 02:36:13.409
I used to work for a company called Blunt Wraps.

02:36:13.489 --> 02:36:18.149
Did you see Snoop Dogg Blunt Wraps? I used to

02:36:18.149 --> 02:36:20.530
work for it. But he pulled up Swisher Sweets.

02:36:21.180 --> 02:36:23.819
They have an actual blunt wrap that's made out

02:36:23.819 --> 02:36:26.319
of sandpaper. I'm years behind. I'm sorry, Swisher

02:36:26.319 --> 02:36:28.079
Tweets. They stole our idea. I was with a company

02:36:28.079 --> 02:36:30.180
called Blunt Wraps. Look that up. See if Snoop

02:36:30.180 --> 02:36:33.780
Dogg Blunt Wraps. Pull that up. I did photos

02:36:33.780 --> 02:36:42.479
and all kinds of shit. See? Well, there's probably

02:36:42.479 --> 02:36:44.100
a lot of people thinking that. I mean, it's not

02:36:44.100 --> 02:36:47.479
a... I'm a moron, and I figured it out ten years

02:36:47.479 --> 02:36:52.040
after everybody else. It took you 10? Yeah, right

02:36:52.040 --> 02:36:54.139
now. I was like, why don't they just sell the

02:36:54.139 --> 02:36:56.000
papers? Meanwhile, they have a whole fucking

02:36:56.000 --> 02:36:58.979
business. They probably ship a million blunt

02:36:58.979 --> 02:37:01.299
wraps a month. And I'm like, why don't they just

02:37:01.299 --> 02:37:03.000
sell blunt wraps? They're different, though.

02:37:03.059 --> 02:37:06.920
There's a market for the way it comes. Right.

02:37:07.620 --> 02:37:10.959
There's an old school thing. It's like operating

02:37:10.959 --> 02:37:14.500
a transmission that's a manual, right? Do you

02:37:14.500 --> 02:37:17.260
have three phones? What's happening there? I

02:37:17.260 --> 02:37:20.260
got three. Phones, two for the hose and one for

02:37:20.260 --> 02:37:26.299
the load. To see a man sit there with three phones,

02:37:26.479 --> 02:37:29.620
and by the way, none of them have that, like,

02:37:29.620 --> 02:37:32.559
screen turn off at 30 seconds mode. No, I don't

02:37:32.559 --> 02:37:34.360
know. I ain't got nothing to hide. All three,

02:37:34.440 --> 02:37:37.819
but they're, like, glowing in your face constantly.

02:37:38.100 --> 02:37:40.780
The screen never goes dark. You got three phones

02:37:40.780 --> 02:37:48.139
running simultaneously. get a bar this joke oh

02:37:48.139 --> 02:37:54.000
my god that's hilarious yes sir not only is someone

02:37:54.000 --> 02:37:56.200
not like busting out their phone on the show

02:37:56.200 --> 02:37:59.739
but to bust out three of them snoop you're so

02:37:59.739 --> 02:38:03.139
next level thank you joe i'm so glad you're around

02:38:03.139 --> 02:38:06.540
people like you are so important like like legitimately

02:38:06.540 --> 02:38:09.559
important because the way things go good or bad

02:38:09.559 --> 02:38:12.340
the way things go happy or sad angry or happy

02:38:12.340 --> 02:38:14.500
a lot of that has to do with people like you

02:38:15.040 --> 02:38:19.620
When a person like you is real fun and happy

02:38:19.620 --> 02:38:22.399
and so many people love them and that's what

02:38:22.399 --> 02:38:25.280
you spread, camaraderie and happiness. If people

02:38:25.280 --> 02:38:27.879
go to see Snoop Dogg, they're of a similar mindset.

02:38:28.399 --> 02:38:32.319
And even if they weren't previously, they adopt

02:38:32.319 --> 02:38:34.719
a similar mindset because they see you having

02:38:34.719 --> 02:38:37.719
so much fun and giving out so much love and everybody

02:38:37.719 --> 02:38:40.059
embracing you. And they realize at a certain

02:38:40.059 --> 02:38:42.469
time in the night, they realize. I can do this

02:38:42.469 --> 02:38:45.430
too. We can all do this. We can all behave to

02:38:45.430 --> 02:38:47.989
everybody that we know and we meet and we come

02:38:47.989 --> 02:38:50.149
into contact with the same way Snoop Dogg does.

02:38:50.329 --> 02:38:52.850
And that's beautiful you say that because November

02:38:52.850 --> 02:38:57.549
8th was my mom's funeral. And it was such a beautiful

02:38:57.549 --> 02:39:01.049
celebration of her life. And the way people left

02:39:01.049 --> 02:39:03.409
there, you know, speaking about my mom and speaking

02:39:03.409 --> 02:39:06.290
about the way they felt just gave me more reason

02:39:06.290 --> 02:39:08.760
to continue. to keep doing what I'm supposed

02:39:08.760 --> 02:39:11.459
to be doing and not be sad and not be down, but

02:39:11.459 --> 02:39:14.420
be thankful that I had 50 years with an angel.

02:39:14.819 --> 02:39:16.799
That's beautiful. You know what I mean? Yes,

02:39:16.840 --> 02:39:22.299
I do know. That's beautiful. And that's what

02:39:22.299 --> 02:39:24.340
we make you do. We make you reflect on great

02:39:24.340 --> 02:39:27.120
moments in life, and it makes you think about

02:39:27.120 --> 02:39:29.700
the blessing of being here as opposed to the

02:39:29.700 --> 02:39:33.520
frustration of not having them anymore. Yes.

02:39:33.680 --> 02:39:35.520
You know what it does? It makes you sensitive.

02:39:37.180 --> 02:39:40.079
it doesn't mean that your path is clearly paved.

02:39:40.440 --> 02:39:42.680
Like sometimes when you're sensitive, you can

02:39:42.680 --> 02:39:46.620
go into paranoia and fear or you can go into

02:39:46.620 --> 02:39:50.620
love and acceptance and camaraderie and just

02:39:50.620 --> 02:39:54.760
like recognizing the finite nature of our existence.

02:39:54.940 --> 02:40:00.739
It's so limited. I'm 54. There's no way I'm anything

02:40:00.739 --> 02:40:05.299
less than halfway dead. There's no way. You look

02:40:05.299 --> 02:40:07.879
20 -something, man. You look 20 -something. You

02:40:07.879 --> 02:40:10.540
look good. Science. Me and my boy Kevin was like,

02:40:10.620 --> 02:40:12.579
we pulled the jackets out and we seen you in

02:40:12.579 --> 02:40:14.639
real life. We was like, damn, he buff as a motherfucker.

02:40:14.639 --> 02:40:16.819
I don't know. He probably going to have problems

02:40:16.819 --> 02:40:18.360
taking his jacket off. This motherfucker going

02:40:18.360 --> 02:40:20.659
to be tight on him. You look good, Joe. I think

02:40:20.659 --> 02:40:23.440
I'll fit in it. Thank you very much. And that

02:40:23.440 --> 02:40:25.600
takes a lot when we get to the fifth floor to

02:40:25.600 --> 02:40:27.739
still be dedicated to working out, making sure

02:40:27.739 --> 02:40:30.579
our body is still on point. Because I just got

02:40:30.579 --> 02:40:32.780
to the fifth floor. Well, I figured out somewhere

02:40:32.780 --> 02:40:36.530
along the line. that there's like a part of it

02:40:36.530 --> 02:40:39.129
I want to look good part of it I want to be strong

02:40:39.129 --> 02:40:41.989
because I'm insecure but there's also part of

02:40:41.989 --> 02:40:46.209
it that I realized that I can be my best person

02:40:46.209 --> 02:40:50.590
when I can control my own demons and the way

02:40:50.590 --> 02:40:55.510
I control my own demons is I have to like conquer

02:40:55.510 --> 02:40:58.700
them I conquer them. I don't want to work out.

02:40:58.719 --> 02:41:02.040
I force myself to. And I force myself to push

02:41:02.040 --> 02:41:05.500
myself. And it's not a lot of heavyweight stuff

02:41:05.500 --> 02:41:07.659
that makes you look good. It's a lot of painful

02:41:07.659 --> 02:41:11.360
shit. It's a lot of rounds in the bag and Tabata

02:41:11.360 --> 02:41:14.479
sprints on the airdyne bike and shit like that.

02:41:14.579 --> 02:41:16.719
That's what I like to do. I like to do shit where

02:41:16.719 --> 02:41:18.920
I don't like to do it when I'm doing it, but

02:41:18.920 --> 02:41:21.260
I like how I feel after it's over. And that's

02:41:21.260 --> 02:41:23.760
what... ruthless workouts do they make you a

02:41:23.760 --> 02:41:25.879
more peaceful person and i know that there's

02:41:25.879 --> 02:41:27.899
people that are afraid of them and they're afraid

02:41:27.899 --> 02:41:29.420
of people that are ahead of them because they

02:41:29.420 --> 02:41:30.879
feel like those people are going to be mean to

02:41:30.879 --> 02:41:33.760
them but it's not it's not the case you gotta

02:41:33.760 --> 02:41:37.479
you gotta embrace struggle and not struggle like

02:41:37.479 --> 02:41:40.319
unnecessary struggle or a horrible struggle or

02:41:40.319 --> 02:41:43.079
you know you got cancer or your family's poor

02:41:43.079 --> 02:41:46.159
that's not what i mean i mean embrace difficult

02:41:46.159 --> 02:41:50.760
tasks like dig in Dig in. And then once you've

02:41:50.760 --> 02:41:52.440
got some momentum, like you're a Snoop Dogg,

02:41:52.500 --> 02:41:54.340
one of the things that I admire about you is

02:41:54.340 --> 02:41:57.100
you're so active. You do so many different things.

02:41:57.360 --> 02:41:59.719
You're always moving. You're doing commentary.

02:41:59.799 --> 02:42:03.479
You're making new albums. You're touring. You're

02:42:03.479 --> 02:42:06.840
doing commercials. You're doing movies. And you're

02:42:06.840 --> 02:42:09.239
you professionally. You're doing a show with

02:42:09.239 --> 02:42:12.639
Martha Stewart. Shout out to our buddy Chris

02:42:12.639 --> 02:42:14.459
McGuire. You know Chris McGuire? He's my guy.

02:42:14.719 --> 02:42:17.139
Yeah. We started out doing stand -up together.

02:42:17.399 --> 02:42:19.690
For real? Yeah. He told me he was doing that

02:42:19.690 --> 02:42:21.909
show with you. I'm like, that's amazing. That's

02:42:21.909 --> 02:42:24.069
amazing. He's dope as fuck. I fuck with him.

02:42:24.170 --> 02:42:27.969
Yeah. He's a smart dude. Very smart dude. But

02:42:27.969 --> 02:42:30.750
it's like, what you're doing is so important

02:42:30.750 --> 02:42:34.510
to the culture. To the culture of this country.

02:42:34.950 --> 02:42:38.870
Fun and great entertainment and talking shit.

02:42:39.250 --> 02:42:42.270
People forget talking shit is fun. It is. When

02:42:42.270 --> 02:42:45.329
you're talking shit about Roy Jones Jr. versus

02:42:45.329 --> 02:42:50.770
Mike Tyson. And they both my friends. Yes. That's

02:42:50.770 --> 02:42:52.489
the beauty. Yes, they're both my friends too.

02:42:52.709 --> 02:42:55.329
You know, it reminds me of when I used to watch

02:42:55.329 --> 02:42:59.069
a show as a kid called All in the Family. I used

02:42:59.069 --> 02:43:01.090
to love fucking Archie Bunker. That motherfucker

02:43:01.090 --> 02:43:03.729
talks so much shit. So much shit. That motherfucker,

02:43:03.809 --> 02:43:06.430
I look forward to Archie talking shit. That just

02:43:06.430 --> 02:43:10.209
was like the era like I come up in. You love

02:43:10.209 --> 02:43:11.850
for somebody to talk shit to you because it got

02:43:11.850 --> 02:43:14.350
you good with being able to talk shit back. Yes.

02:43:15.309 --> 02:43:17.030
Yeah. It's sparring. You know what I mean? It's

02:43:17.030 --> 02:43:19.590
sparring. Exactly. It's like a verbal sparring.

02:43:19.950 --> 02:43:22.350
And there's so many people that are so sensitive

02:43:22.350 --> 02:43:23.950
today. Aren't they? They don't want to hear it

02:43:23.950 --> 02:43:26.430
as sparring. Yeah. Fuck that. Our area, we don't

02:43:26.430 --> 02:43:27.870
give a fuck. They don't give a fuck. You talk

02:43:27.870 --> 02:43:29.430
shit about me just knowing from the hit your

02:43:29.430 --> 02:43:33.229
ass back. Well, all those Tony Hinchcliffe roasts,

02:43:33.229 --> 02:43:35.850
all those roasts like the Martha Stewart roast,

02:43:36.010 --> 02:43:38.770
and all those roasts where Martha Stewart was

02:43:38.770 --> 02:43:40.969
writing, rather, where she was doing jokes on

02:43:40.969 --> 02:43:43.379
roasts, those are all Tony's. Man, Tony did my

02:43:43.379 --> 02:43:46.340
shit. He's a fucking killer. Him and Jeff Ross

02:43:46.340 --> 02:43:48.799
are the guys that I go to when it's time for

02:43:48.799 --> 02:43:51.319
me. 100%. Those are the two kings of roasts.

02:43:51.319 --> 02:43:53.819
I go to those two guys. Tony's actually writing

02:43:53.819 --> 02:43:56.780
a movie for me right now. Yeah, that's my guy.

02:43:56.899 --> 02:43:58.979
You know what I'm saying? So me and him, I fell

02:43:58.979 --> 02:44:02.260
in love with him when I had him do a comedy special

02:44:02.260 --> 02:44:05.540
or some shit. And he was the only white comedian

02:44:05.540 --> 02:44:09.319
on there. And he fucked up everybody that looked

02:44:09.319 --> 02:44:13.020
like me. And at the end of the night, everybody

02:44:13.020 --> 02:44:14.600
was like, who is that white boy? I said, don't

02:44:14.600 --> 02:44:16.819
worry about nothing. I ain't hiring you niggas

02:44:16.819 --> 02:44:19.940
ever again. He fucked all y 'all up. He was the

02:44:19.940 --> 02:44:21.659
shit. I mean, just the way he came out there

02:44:21.659 --> 02:44:24.299
and took control of the crowd. His stand -up

02:44:24.299 --> 02:44:26.479
was amazing. It's amazing. Do you know ever since

02:44:26.479 --> 02:44:28.299
he moved to Texas, he started wearing a cowboy

02:44:28.299 --> 02:44:32.760
hat? Are you serious? Snoop. Snoop. You know,

02:44:32.780 --> 02:44:36.579
he opens up for me in arenas. And this motherfucker

02:44:36.579 --> 02:44:39.299
walks out in a cowboy hat with a cowboy shirt

02:44:39.299 --> 02:44:42.959
on, big old belt buckle, cowboy boots. No, he's

02:44:42.959 --> 02:44:47.459
shit. He tore all their asses up. Every last

02:44:47.459 --> 02:44:50.299
one of them. No. Look, Tony Inchcliffe's a straight

02:44:50.299 --> 02:44:52.860
up murderer. I work with him all the time. I

02:44:52.860 --> 02:44:56.399
worked with him last night. He's so good. He

02:44:56.399 --> 02:44:59.000
said if we go out to dinner tonight that he wants

02:44:59.000 --> 02:45:02.610
to come. He's so underrated. He's too underrated,

02:45:02.750 --> 02:45:05.190
yeah. Very underrated. I'm trying to do something

02:45:05.190 --> 02:45:08.870
about that. I bought a club here, and I'm opening

02:45:08.870 --> 02:45:11.489
up a comedy club. And once I have everything

02:45:11.489 --> 02:45:14.110
set up and ready to film, I want to film and

02:45:14.110 --> 02:45:16.809
produce Tony's comedy special. He's the shit.

02:45:16.950 --> 02:45:18.709
Yeah, and a bunch of other comedians. I want

02:45:18.709 --> 02:45:19.969
to start producing comedy specials. Make it right,

02:45:20.110 --> 02:45:22.709
and I'll show up. I'll be the musical guest that

02:45:22.709 --> 02:45:26.049
night. Wow. You hear me? Yes, I hear you. Then

02:45:26.049 --> 02:45:28.229
that way we'll make it go well. It's going to

02:45:28.229 --> 02:45:30.450
happen. It was going to happen anyway. We just

02:45:30.450 --> 02:45:31.889
have to wait until the club opens. Yeah, give

02:45:31.889 --> 02:45:33.469
him that extra little piece to pull out his hat.

02:45:33.649 --> 02:45:39.510
We'll do it. 100%. I told him he could get a

02:45:39.510 --> 02:45:42.090
deal with Netflix or he could do Amazon and all

02:45:42.090 --> 02:45:43.610
these different... I told him I think he should

02:45:43.610 --> 02:45:45.909
just put it out there. Let the people want it

02:45:45.909 --> 02:45:48.670
and see it. Put it on YouTube. And then let them

02:45:48.670 --> 02:45:51.409
come back and pay for one. Exactly. Or pay to

02:45:51.409 --> 02:45:54.040
see you live. That's probably the better relationship.

02:45:54.319 --> 02:45:56.379
The best relationship is you give it away for

02:45:56.379 --> 02:45:58.280
free. And then when they come see you, they got

02:45:58.280 --> 02:46:00.479
to pay to see you do it live. Exactly. Got you.

02:46:00.579 --> 02:46:02.479
So it's like they come to see you because you

02:46:02.479 --> 02:46:04.440
already gave them something. So now they feel

02:46:04.440 --> 02:46:06.020
like they got to give you something. Well, they

02:46:06.020 --> 02:46:07.780
feel like they want to come see you. Like you're

02:46:07.780 --> 02:46:10.420
connected to you. It's organic. They're supporting

02:46:10.420 --> 02:46:13.540
you. Yes. Yes. That's what I think. Like there's

02:46:13.540 --> 02:46:15.100
a lot of comics that have done that now. Like

02:46:15.100 --> 02:46:17.360
Mark Norman. How many views does Mark Norman

02:46:17.360 --> 02:46:22.569
special have? It's just a good time, Snoop. It's

02:46:22.569 --> 02:46:24.989
a good time for rap. It's a good time for hip

02:46:24.989 --> 02:46:26.870
-hop. It's a good time for comedy. Have you ever

02:46:26.870 --> 02:46:30.250
watched Versus? Versus what? What is Versus?

02:46:30.270 --> 02:46:31.909
The Versus battle where they have two artists

02:46:31.909 --> 02:46:35.829
singing songs against each other. 7 .9 million.

02:46:35.930 --> 02:46:38.209
This is what Mark Norman's special has. So he

02:46:38.209 --> 02:46:40.709
just put it up on Instagram, or YouTube rather,

02:46:40.870 --> 02:46:45.309
and 7 .9 million people have watched it. There's

02:46:45.309 --> 02:46:47.430
no way he would get that many on any other network,

02:46:47.629 --> 02:46:51.459
right? No. No. Because even Netflix, which is

02:46:51.459 --> 02:46:54.100
the giant of all streaming platforms, you have

02:46:54.100 --> 02:46:56.079
to pay. You got a cap when it comes to that.

02:46:56.159 --> 02:46:58.819
Exactly. But you don't have to pay for YouTube,

02:46:58.879 --> 02:47:01.299
and there's so much shit on YouTube. No, I'm

02:47:01.299 --> 02:47:03.159
telling you about Versus. Versus is a show that

02:47:03.159 --> 02:47:05.479
was created by Swiss Beasts and Timbaland where

02:47:05.479 --> 02:47:08.840
they have two artists do 20 songs against each

02:47:08.840 --> 02:47:12.040
other. So now we're thinking about a Versus battle

02:47:12.040 --> 02:47:15.579
with comedians where they go against each other

02:47:15.579 --> 02:47:17.799
because I don't see that anymore, like two comedians.

02:47:18.479 --> 02:47:20.940
Talking about each other and then at the end

02:47:20.940 --> 02:47:23.120
of the show, the crowd picks who was the funniest.

02:47:23.479 --> 02:47:26.479
Well, let me tell you something. I got all my

02:47:26.479 --> 02:47:29.459
gold chips on that kid Tony. Against anybody?

02:47:29.780 --> 02:47:31.979
Against anybody. That's what I like. Yeah. That's

02:47:31.979 --> 02:47:34.139
what the fuck I like to hear. Yeah. I got all

02:47:34.139 --> 02:47:36.760
my chips on Tony Hinchcliffe. All of them. Across

02:47:36.760 --> 02:47:38.399
the board. That's what I like to hear. Yeah.

02:47:38.440 --> 02:47:41.479
I'm all in. I'm all in. You give him three rounds,

02:47:41.559 --> 02:47:43.819
15 minutes apiece. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're

02:47:43.819 --> 02:47:47.549
not. he he that little is obsessed and he's mean

02:47:47.549 --> 02:47:50.389
because he weighs 130 pounds i know what he i've

02:47:50.389 --> 02:47:53.510
seen him he comes i've seen him in an all -black

02:47:53.510 --> 02:47:56.370
audience with an all -black crowd steal the show

02:47:56.370 --> 02:48:00.250
bro i know what he'll do he's a monster my money

02:48:00.250 --> 02:48:01.709
on him too i'm just gonna slide it to you on

02:48:01.709 --> 02:48:04.850
the low yeah we we do tours together you know

02:48:04.850 --> 02:48:08.530
i've done like uh 15 20 arenas with tony h left

02:48:08.530 --> 02:48:12.450
he's uh He's a bad motherfucker. We should put

02:48:12.450 --> 02:48:14.930
one of those together. I would love it. That

02:48:14.930 --> 02:48:17.250
would be so fucking dope. I would love it. Who's

02:48:17.250 --> 02:48:18.950
man enough to get in the ring with him? Yeah.

02:48:20.709 --> 02:48:23.610
Who's funny enough? Yeah, we could do that. We

02:48:23.610 --> 02:48:25.350
could do that like we would do a combination

02:48:25.350 --> 02:48:29.590
of we have that, a few musical artists. Yeah.

02:48:30.250 --> 02:48:35.030
Tony goes to war with people. Who can be Tony?

02:48:35.149 --> 02:48:36.829
I could be like the ring announcer. I'll be like

02:48:36.829 --> 02:48:39.110
the Bruce Buffer. Or fuck that. Bring in Bruce

02:48:39.110 --> 02:48:41.750
Buffer. Fuck it. Bring in Bruce Buffer for real.

02:48:41.930 --> 02:48:44.829
Or make motherfuckers. That's how you make Tony

02:48:44.829 --> 02:48:46.930
a star. You make motherfuckers try to knock him

02:48:46.930 --> 02:48:50.770
off. He's like the motherfucking head of the

02:48:50.770 --> 02:48:52.850
video game. The last challenge. He's the last

02:48:52.850 --> 02:48:55.920
floor. That might be a great show. That could

02:48:55.920 --> 02:48:59.020
be a great show. Just like beat Bobby Flay? Yes.

02:48:59.239 --> 02:49:02.840
Exactly. Beat Tony Hinchcliffe. His show's called

02:49:02.840 --> 02:49:07.020
Kill Tony. Fuck it. Right? I mean, kind of crazy.

02:49:07.219 --> 02:49:08.940
Fuck it. That's it. Kill Tony. You could just

02:49:08.940 --> 02:49:13.620
call it Kill Tony the Roast. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

02:49:13.659 --> 02:49:18.079
Kill Tony Roast. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. Because

02:49:18.079 --> 02:49:22.059
real Kill Tony. Tony's just a host. He's helping

02:49:22.059 --> 02:49:25.920
everybody out. But kill Tony like a real roast

02:49:25.920 --> 02:49:27.500
battle. And you know what that would do too?

02:49:27.600 --> 02:49:29.719
It would make the sensitive people to comedy

02:49:29.719 --> 02:49:33.020
be non -sensitive because now you have two comedians

02:49:33.020 --> 02:49:35.379
talking shit about each other and they can't

02:49:35.379 --> 02:49:38.040
be sensitive. So now how can you be fucking sensitive

02:49:38.040 --> 02:49:41.379
when they're not? Exactly. Right? Change the

02:49:41.379 --> 02:49:43.639
narrative. That's what he's doing already with

02:49:43.639 --> 02:49:45.940
that show, Kill Tony. Because if you've never

02:49:45.940 --> 02:49:49.760
seen that show, Kill Tony, every... Monday day,

02:49:49.959 --> 02:49:54.020
they put their names in a hat. And then when

02:49:54.020 --> 02:49:56.459
the show comes around, the people are all in

02:49:56.459 --> 02:49:57.500
the audience. They don't know if they're going

02:49:57.500 --> 02:49:59.219
to get picked. And they draw their names out

02:49:59.219 --> 02:50:01.200
of the hat. And they let them come up and they

02:50:01.200 --> 02:50:03.959
do one minute. So doing one minute of comedy

02:50:03.959 --> 02:50:06.600
in front of hundreds of thousands of people that

02:50:06.600 --> 02:50:09.959
are watching online. And all the 270 people that

02:50:09.959 --> 02:50:13.100
are in the club. And Tony fucks with them when

02:50:13.100 --> 02:50:15.780
he gives them props. And he's made careers from

02:50:15.780 --> 02:50:18.780
that. Guys who are just amateurs who, like, maybe

02:50:18.780 --> 02:50:20.899
they're working as waiters. I love it. Or maybe

02:50:20.899 --> 02:50:23.020
they're, you know, waitresses or whatever the

02:50:23.020 --> 02:50:25.600
fuck, accountants. And then they get this shot

02:50:25.600 --> 02:50:27.680
to be on Kill Tony and they get some laughs.

02:50:27.879 --> 02:50:30.680
And they start realizing, oh, my God, I could

02:50:30.680 --> 02:50:33.219
be a fucking comedian. Why you didn't FaceTime

02:50:33.219 --> 02:50:37.459
him right now? Who? Tony. I can. I'll FaceTime

02:50:37.459 --> 02:50:39.420
him. Yeah, he'll pick up for you. He's probably

02:50:39.420 --> 02:50:41.040
going to look at me like a fucking bill collector.

02:50:41.319 --> 02:50:44.420
No, no. Are you kidding me? He had a bit for

02:50:44.420 --> 02:50:47.799
a while about how he got a call from you, and

02:50:47.799 --> 02:50:50.340
then he answered the call. I hate him on FaceTime.

02:50:50.360 --> 02:50:51.760
It was him and his girl. They was going into

02:50:51.760 --> 02:50:56.100
a club. Called Tony Hinch Club. Hey, Tony. What's

02:50:56.100 --> 02:51:02.899
going on? Here we go. Let's see who you're going

02:51:02.899 --> 02:51:06.250
to pick up on first. He getting calls from me

02:51:06.250 --> 02:51:09.030
and you at the same time. Let's test his friendship.

02:51:11.290 --> 02:51:13.809
Who dialed first, though? Let's just test his

02:51:13.809 --> 02:51:15.649
friendship. That's what it's all about. You better

02:51:15.649 --> 02:51:17.889
not pick up neither one, you motherfucker. Yeah,

02:51:17.930 --> 02:51:20.829
he better, like, play this, like... Oh, he went

02:51:20.829 --> 02:51:25.729
with Snoop! You son of a bitch! You son of a

02:51:25.729 --> 02:51:29.190
bitch! We both dialed at the same time, and you

02:51:29.190 --> 02:51:31.030
went with the Snoop call, you son of a bitch!

02:51:32.860 --> 02:51:40.079
Shut down. Snoop. I won. I won. I shoot the BB

02:51:40.079 --> 02:51:43.479
gun. Tony, we're in the middle of a podcast.

02:51:44.479 --> 02:51:47.040
Oh, sweet. I love it. Put him in front of the

02:51:47.040 --> 02:51:50.040
microphone. We're in the middle of a podcast,

02:51:50.100 --> 02:51:53.079
and we just did a thing where we both FaceTimed

02:51:53.079 --> 02:51:54.959
you at the same time. We were trying to see who

02:51:54.959 --> 02:51:58.209
would pick up. Would you pick up Snoop's phone

02:51:58.209 --> 02:52:01.670
or my phone? You picked up Snoop's. It was humiliating.

02:52:02.010 --> 02:52:04.430
And Joe just had the mafia. They had a gun to

02:52:04.430 --> 02:52:05.790
his head and said, if this motherfucker don't

02:52:05.790 --> 02:52:07.530
pick up the phone, I'm going to kill you. And

02:52:07.530 --> 02:52:09.450
I had the same mafia on me, and they said, which

02:52:09.450 --> 02:52:11.049
one going to pick up first? And you picked up

02:52:11.049 --> 02:52:14.489
for me, so Joe's dead. Thanks, Tony. Thanks,

02:52:14.549 --> 02:52:18.049
Tony. What are you doing, man? What are you doing?

02:52:19.389 --> 02:52:21.989
I'm chilling, chilling. Just woke up from a nap,

02:52:22.149 --> 02:52:24.870
sitting here making coffee. Snoop, do you have

02:52:24.870 --> 02:52:27.459
dinner plans? I got to fly back to L .A. When

02:52:27.459 --> 02:52:29.879
do you fly back? What time? Seven. Seven? Okay.

02:52:30.399 --> 02:52:33.680
Soup's got to fly back at seven. Shit. I'll call

02:52:33.680 --> 02:52:35.959
you when I get out of here. Tony. Okay. What's

02:52:35.959 --> 02:52:37.680
up with that movie, cuz? What's up with that

02:52:37.680 --> 02:52:40.000
movie, cuz? We're doing it. We're knocking it

02:52:40.000 --> 02:52:42.399
out. You let me know. Hit me up sometime when

02:52:42.399 --> 02:52:43.860
you're not on the biggest show in the world,

02:52:43.899 --> 02:52:52.120
you animal. Have me on Kill Tony one episode,

02:52:52.280 --> 02:52:58.059
man. Fuck it. I'm not afraid. I owe you and Matthew

02:52:58.059 --> 02:53:00.079
McConaughey a visit and Willie Nelson. All y

02:53:00.079 --> 02:53:02.739
'all live in the same neighborhood. We love you

02:53:02.739 --> 02:53:04.299
out here. We're going to try to get you here.

02:53:04.440 --> 02:53:07.680
Tony, we got an idea for a show. Snoop and I

02:53:07.680 --> 02:53:09.760
came up with an idea for a show with you in it.

02:53:11.420 --> 02:53:14.700
Oh, sweet. What is it? The real Kill Tony. You

02:53:14.700 --> 02:53:19.620
battle roasting with people. We bring you in

02:53:19.620 --> 02:53:22.020
as the king. Just like beat Bobby Flay, they

02:53:22.020 --> 02:53:24.520
got to kill Tony. This is what we do first. We

02:53:24.520 --> 02:53:27.379
set you up. with a bunch of fucking Tijuana cab

02:53:27.379 --> 02:53:30.840
drivers. Like they would a Mexican prospect.

02:53:31.979 --> 02:53:33.819
You know, that was the thing that Greg Haugen

02:53:33.819 --> 02:53:37.440
said to Julio Cesar Chavez. Wrong call. Julio

02:53:37.440 --> 02:53:39.659
Cesar Chavez beat the fucking shit out of him

02:53:39.659 --> 02:53:43.239
for it. But the idea was that he had this gigantic

02:53:43.239 --> 02:53:45.280
record, but the guys he fought in the beginning

02:53:45.280 --> 02:53:47.639
weren't that good. So here's my thought. We get

02:53:47.639 --> 02:53:50.120
a bunch of dudes who are cocky, who really have

02:53:50.120 --> 02:53:53.260
an overinflated perspective of what they're capable

02:53:53.260 --> 02:53:56.420
of. We start with them. We build you up with

02:53:56.420 --> 02:53:59.120
contenders. And then eventually someone's going

02:53:59.120 --> 02:54:02.280
to get cocky. There's going to be some professional

02:54:02.280 --> 02:54:04.340
stand -up comic that maybe doesn't like Tony

02:54:04.340 --> 02:54:07.100
Hinchcliffe. Maybe doesn't like the whole ethos

02:54:07.100 --> 02:54:11.139
of roast rapping, comedy, the kind of shows you

02:54:11.139 --> 02:54:13.159
do with Kill Tony. He wants to put you in your

02:54:13.159 --> 02:54:21.780
place. That's what we both said. We both putting

02:54:21.780 --> 02:54:25.020
all our chips on you, baby, so say less. I told

02:54:25.020 --> 02:54:27.940
Snoop I'm putting all my chips on Tony. All of

02:54:27.940 --> 02:54:31.239
them. All of them. Let's do this. Let's work,

02:54:31.260 --> 02:54:32.540
man. We don't want to take up too much of your

02:54:32.540 --> 02:54:34.280
time. Tony, we just want to drop a line on you,

02:54:34.299 --> 02:54:37.899
show you some love, baby. Anytime. Keep it together,

02:54:38.040 --> 02:54:41.860
bitch. Keep it together, bitch. Keep it together.

02:54:42.540 --> 02:54:47.600
Bye, guys. Bye -bye. He's hilarious. I said that

02:54:47.600 --> 02:54:50.579
shit like a white guy. Bye -bye. Bye -bye. He

02:54:50.579 --> 02:54:55.239
has a thing about you calling him and him acting

02:54:55.239 --> 02:54:57.899
like as white as humanly possible. You can't

02:54:57.899 --> 02:55:00.239
believe how white he's acting as he's talking

02:55:00.239 --> 02:55:03.600
to you. That's my guy right there, man. That's

02:55:03.600 --> 02:55:05.479
a beautiful thing that people actually pick up

02:55:05.479 --> 02:55:09.239
when we call. Yeah, that's fun. We got a call

02:55:09.239 --> 02:55:11.680
from Shaq, a call from Tony. We're doing it big,

02:55:11.719 --> 02:55:14.379
man. This is a hell of an episode. Yeah. When

02:55:14.379 --> 02:55:16.860
you can do FaceTime calls with people and they

02:55:16.860 --> 02:55:19.440
pick up, that's a beautiful thing. It feels important.

02:55:19.879 --> 02:55:22.760
Yeah. Like I was saying, when you and I were

02:55:22.760 --> 02:55:25.079
calling, when I called you and I was sitting

02:55:25.079 --> 02:55:28.020
at the dinner table and my daughter goes, holy

02:55:28.020 --> 02:55:30.860
shit, that's Snoop Dogg for real? Yeah. I was

02:55:30.860 --> 02:55:32.739
so impressed by the way she said that. I was

02:55:32.739 --> 02:55:37.040
like, wow, she's amazing. Well, my kids, they

02:55:37.040 --> 02:55:41.620
understand that it's a high value of fun in the

02:55:41.620 --> 02:55:44.239
house. Like if you can say something funny. If

02:55:44.239 --> 02:55:46.440
you can make daddy laugh, that's a big deal.

02:55:46.760 --> 02:55:50.319
Mommy might get mad. Mommy might think it's time

02:55:50.319 --> 02:55:52.760
to go to bed. Mommy might think you got to get

02:55:52.760 --> 02:55:54.920
out the door and go to school. But if you can

02:55:54.920 --> 02:55:58.200
make daddy laugh, daddy kind of overrules it

02:55:58.200 --> 02:55:59.899
and he starts laughing. He'll fall on the floor

02:55:59.899 --> 02:56:03.840
and laugh with you. A thousand points. Yeah,

02:56:03.879 --> 02:56:07.069
so my kids, they talk shit. Were they getting

02:56:07.069 --> 02:56:10.069
honest? Yeah. But I also talk shit to them, too.

02:56:10.469 --> 02:56:12.850
Because I want them to be able to spar with kids

02:56:12.850 --> 02:56:15.090
at school. Like, you don't want your kid to go

02:56:15.090 --> 02:56:17.829
to school and be some fucking delicate lamb.

02:56:18.049 --> 02:56:19.930
You want your kid to go to school to be like

02:56:19.930 --> 02:56:23.370
a loving gladiator. Nah, when my kids were young

02:56:23.370 --> 02:56:26.510
and trying to get into the music industry, I

02:56:26.510 --> 02:56:28.870
was like the worst critic for them. I was like

02:56:28.870 --> 02:56:31.290
real hard when they didn't sound right. I was

02:56:31.290 --> 02:56:33.350
like, y 'all shit sound like shit. It's garbage.

02:56:33.430 --> 02:56:36.420
It's this. It's that. And it taught them to know

02:56:36.420 --> 02:56:39.700
that the world is going to be just as shrewd

02:56:39.700 --> 02:56:41.799
as I am, but it's built up their tough skin to

02:56:41.799 --> 02:56:44.719
be able to say that, you know, rejection ain't

02:56:44.719 --> 02:56:46.600
nothing. It's another opportunity out there.

02:56:47.200 --> 02:56:50.079
Also, the kind of rejection you're giving them

02:56:50.079 --> 02:56:53.219
is better because you love them. Right. You love

02:56:53.219 --> 02:56:55.459
them. They know you love them, and you're saying

02:56:55.459 --> 02:56:59.079
it sucks. Like, that'll hurt for a while, but

02:56:59.079 --> 02:57:04.459
the key is learning a system. of handling reality

02:57:04.459 --> 02:57:09.180
and avoiding any kind of pitfalls where you distort

02:57:09.180 --> 02:57:13.299
reality to save your ego or save your self -image

02:57:13.299 --> 02:57:16.520
or save the way other people perceive you. Because

02:57:16.520 --> 02:57:19.540
that doesn't work anyway. If people think that

02:57:19.540 --> 02:57:21.719
you want them to think about you in a certain

02:57:21.719 --> 02:57:23.020
way, they're not going to think about you that

02:57:23.020 --> 02:57:24.760
way. They're going to think you want them to

02:57:24.760 --> 02:57:26.260
think about you that way, so they're going to

02:57:26.260 --> 02:57:29.120
think you're weak. The only way people perceive

02:57:29.120 --> 02:57:32.299
you in a way... that measures up to what you're

02:57:32.299 --> 02:57:35.079
doing is if you do something, if you want extraordinary

02:57:35.079 --> 02:57:38.040
love, you got to do extraordinary things. Yes.

02:57:38.200 --> 02:57:42.239
Like Mike Tyson in his prime. Mike Tyson when

02:57:42.239 --> 02:57:46.180
he knocked out Michael Spinks in his prime. That

02:57:46.180 --> 02:57:49.780
was an extraordinary human. And he got extraordinary

02:57:49.780 --> 02:57:52.899
results. But he deserved them. Yeah, he did.

02:57:53.040 --> 02:57:55.659
He deserved them. And that's the balance of life.

02:57:55.899 --> 02:57:58.059
And some people don't think that that balance

02:57:58.059 --> 02:57:59.860
is achieved because they think they deserve more

02:57:59.860 --> 02:58:02.409
than they do. But you just need to work harder.

02:58:02.569 --> 02:58:04.930
Yeah. Put that work in and you'll get the results.

02:58:05.190 --> 02:58:06.989
And also, if it didn't work out your way and

02:58:06.989 --> 02:58:09.709
you did work hard, regroup. Don't blame other

02:58:09.709 --> 02:58:11.690
people. Don't get mad at people who are successful.

02:58:11.989 --> 02:58:14.750
That fucks everybody up. It fucks the successful

02:58:14.750 --> 02:58:16.709
people up because they don't want to help you

02:58:16.709 --> 02:58:19.069
because now they're resentful. It fucks you up

02:58:19.069 --> 02:58:21.569
because it distracts you. It takes away from

02:58:21.569 --> 02:58:23.790
your focus, which should be a success. Well,

02:58:23.829 --> 02:58:27.549
most people don't understand that. Most successful

02:58:27.549 --> 02:58:30.229
people have had a lot of failure in their life

02:58:30.229 --> 02:58:33.329
in order to become successful. Not just a lot,

02:58:33.469 --> 02:58:36.530
but the thing you're doing when you're sparring

02:58:36.530 --> 02:58:40.190
with Daniel Serafian, you're putting yourself

02:58:40.190 --> 02:58:44.409
in a situation where you're not the person who's

02:58:44.409 --> 02:58:48.790
the expert at that. And you're also crazy famous.

02:58:49.149 --> 02:58:52.350
And you're practicing, doing MMA with a guy who

02:58:52.350 --> 02:58:56.370
fought in the UFC. A couple times. His ear is

02:58:56.370 --> 02:58:59.629
like a cauliflower. Yeah. You ever touch it?

02:58:59.909 --> 02:59:02.450
Hell yeah. It's hard as fuck, right? Yeah, I'm

02:59:02.450 --> 02:59:05.370
like, damn, this is experience. When you get

02:59:05.370 --> 02:59:07.149
one of these motherfuckers, that means you experience.

02:59:08.190 --> 02:59:10.770
Or you suck at getting out of triangles. You've

02:59:10.770 --> 02:59:12.370
been squeezed the fuck out of here. It doesn't

02:59:12.370 --> 02:59:14.950
necessarily mean you're good. I've met dudes

02:59:14.950 --> 02:59:17.750
who had cauliflower ear, and they were terrible

02:59:17.750 --> 02:59:19.930
at jiu -jitsu. They just squeezed the fuck out

02:59:19.930 --> 02:59:22.719
you, huh? I only have a tiny amount. I have like

02:59:22.719 --> 02:59:25.319
a little bit right here in this ear, right here.

02:59:25.520 --> 02:59:27.520
And I have some somewhere else where it's really

02:59:27.520 --> 02:59:30.500
hard. But it's just bleeding. And so I always

02:59:30.500 --> 02:59:33.959
wore ear guards. Right. When I grappled, I wore

02:59:33.959 --> 02:59:35.559
these things. You tuck them and you Velcro them

02:59:35.559 --> 02:59:37.600
under your chin. So you can't fuck my ears. Yeah.

02:59:37.819 --> 02:59:40.280
Because the thing about me is like you got to

02:59:40.280 --> 02:59:42.780
hear things right. Right. If you take your ear,

02:59:42.899 --> 02:59:45.920
if you go like this with your ear and we're talking,

02:59:46.100 --> 02:59:48.639
everything sounds normal. But if you go like

02:59:48.639 --> 02:59:51.739
this. and grab the top of it and pinch it down

02:59:51.739 --> 02:59:55.280
it sounds different and then you let it go and

02:59:55.280 --> 02:59:58.280
start to oh now i hear everything because your

02:59:58.280 --> 03:00:01.899
ear was designed to capture sound so as soon

03:00:01.899 --> 03:00:03.739
as you get cauliflower ear and you want to look

03:00:03.739 --> 03:00:06.780
like a badass Well, you sacrificed being able

03:00:06.780 --> 03:00:09.840
to hear for looking like a badass. The look over

03:00:09.840 --> 03:00:12.600
the sound. Yeah, it's not good for a guy like

03:00:12.600 --> 03:00:14.559
you. We won't compromise our sound for the look.

03:00:14.579 --> 03:00:16.680
Why would anybody compromise on sound? Sound

03:00:16.680 --> 03:00:19.819
moves people. Yeah. Even old school shit. I was

03:00:19.819 --> 03:00:21.520
at the UFC the other day and somebody came out

03:00:21.520 --> 03:00:26.299
to the Rocky soundtrack. I was like, oh my God.

03:00:26.340 --> 03:00:42.819
That's the motion connection. Fell big. We see

03:00:42.819 --> 03:00:44.840
Rocky running up the stairs in Philadelphia.

03:00:45.379 --> 03:00:47.620
It reminded me of Howard Cosell calling a fight

03:00:47.620 --> 03:00:49.280
here and there. Do you know how good Rocky was?

03:00:49.379 --> 03:00:53.219
He didn't even win. That movie was amazing, and

03:00:53.219 --> 03:00:56.020
he didn't even win. Adrian! Like, think about

03:00:56.020 --> 03:00:58.479
that. He didn't fucking win. He didn't win that

03:00:58.479 --> 03:01:00.680
movie. Nah. He didn't win that fight in that

03:01:00.680 --> 03:01:04.780
movie. Nah. He fought Apollo Creed, who was essentially

03:01:04.780 --> 03:01:07.059
Muhammad Ali. He was a version of Muhammad Ali.

03:01:07.299 --> 03:01:09.559
Right. He didn't even win, and that movie made

03:01:09.559 --> 03:01:11.700
everybody get up and run. I was, like, eight

03:01:11.700 --> 03:01:13.959
years old, dude. I drank three raw eggs, and

03:01:13.959 --> 03:01:16.420
I ran around the block. I was trying to find

03:01:16.420 --> 03:01:18.280
the statue, and, like, they said that shit in

03:01:18.280 --> 03:01:21.200
Philadelphia. Like, damn. He ain't run that far.

03:01:23.420 --> 03:01:27.780
Who was this statue of? Was it Joe Frazier? I

03:01:27.780 --> 03:01:29.579
don't know, but the whole city was running behind

03:01:29.579 --> 03:01:31.819
him. Yeah. Is it a Joe Frazier statue? Because

03:01:31.819 --> 03:01:34.940
he's from Philly. Did Muhammad... Oh, no, no,

03:01:34.940 --> 03:01:37.600
no, no, no, no, no. I think it actually is Sylvester

03:01:37.600 --> 03:01:39.379
Stallone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's horrible.

03:01:39.379 --> 03:01:40.680
Yeah, in the movie there's no statue. That's

03:01:40.680 --> 03:01:43.510
horrible. That's right. Afterwards, they put

03:01:43.510 --> 03:01:46.149
a statue up there. That's so crazy. You think

03:01:46.149 --> 03:01:47.729
about all the people that came out of Philadelphia.

03:01:47.969 --> 03:01:51.069
Bernard Hopkins. Bernard Hopkins came out of

03:01:51.069 --> 03:01:53.950
Philadelphia. Joe Frazier came out of Philadelphia.

03:01:54.110 --> 03:01:57.889
They went with Sylvester Stallone. Motherfucker

03:01:57.889 --> 03:02:01.229
was one and six. A motherfucker that was one

03:02:01.229 --> 03:02:03.649
and six got a stadium up there. He lost to Drago.

03:02:04.030 --> 03:02:07.950
He lost to Clubber Lane. Do you know Bill Burr?

03:02:08.149 --> 03:02:10.690
Yeah, that's smart. You ever see Bill Burr's

03:02:10.690 --> 03:02:13.229
rant about Philadelphia? Man, he's from Boston.

03:02:13.309 --> 03:02:16.409
He's a fucking... Yeah. He hates New York and

03:02:16.409 --> 03:02:20.010
Philadelphia, right? Yeah. He hate New York,

03:02:20.010 --> 03:02:22.270
though. Well, we're from the same place. I'm

03:02:22.270 --> 03:02:24.370
from Boston, too. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah, I was

03:02:24.370 --> 03:02:26.610
his generation right before Bill left. Oh, my

03:02:26.610 --> 03:02:30.729
God. I was, like, late 80s. Bill was early 90s.

03:02:30.729 --> 03:02:32.370
It was right after each other. We, like, passed

03:02:32.370 --> 03:02:34.590
like chips in the night. Yeah, he's awesome.

03:02:34.709 --> 03:02:38.069
He's awesome. And he has his, he was in Philadelphia

03:02:38.069 --> 03:02:41.170
and they were booing Dom Irera. And Dom Irera,

03:02:41.170 --> 03:02:43.629
who's like a legend, old school comedy legend.

03:02:43.670 --> 03:02:46.389
He's amazing. HBO specials, like one of the greatest

03:02:46.389 --> 03:02:47.969
guys ever. And one of the funniest guys ever.

03:02:48.090 --> 03:02:50.489
Dom Irera's on stage and they were like, people

03:02:50.489 --> 03:02:53.049
were fucking with him. And Bill Burr went on

03:02:53.049 --> 03:02:56.409
stage and lit Philadelphia on fire and pissed

03:02:56.409 --> 03:03:01.520
on its grave. Wow. It was like nine minutes of

03:03:01.520 --> 03:03:04.639
him shitting on Philadelphia with sports facts

03:03:04.639 --> 03:03:07.260
and everything. And then finally he gets to the

03:03:07.260 --> 03:03:09.440
thing where he's talking about how you've got

03:03:09.440 --> 03:03:14.620
a fucking fake boxer who has a statue. He goes,

03:03:14.780 --> 03:03:18.120
Joe Frazier came from Philly. I don't know if

03:03:18.120 --> 03:03:19.899
he said Bernard Hopkins, but he said, you've

03:03:19.899 --> 03:03:22.159
got a fucking Sylvester Stallone. You've got

03:03:22.159 --> 03:03:25.399
Rocky. You've got a fake guy. Has the statue

03:03:25.399 --> 03:03:28.770
of Yosuke. It's so funny. You want to pretend

03:03:28.770 --> 03:03:32.090
this Italian guy kicked everybody's ass. Bill

03:03:32.090 --> 03:03:34.670
Burr is a bad motherfucker, man. He's a bad motherfucker.

03:03:35.049 --> 03:03:38.370
Bill Burr is a special kind of comic. I love

03:03:38.370 --> 03:03:40.909
him. He's an unusual person. And he does his

03:03:40.909 --> 03:03:44.309
podcast where it's just him. It's so unusual.

03:03:44.850 --> 03:03:47.969
There's guys that do it like my friend Tim Dillon

03:03:47.969 --> 03:03:50.190
does Tim Dillon and his producer Ben. And he

03:03:50.190 --> 03:03:52.909
bounces shit off Ben and makes Ben laugh. Bill

03:03:52.909 --> 03:03:55.610
does it like he's shouting out to the abyss.

03:03:56.270 --> 03:03:59.170
It's just Bill. All alone. It's just him in a

03:03:59.170 --> 03:04:01.549
room talking, you know, I'm fucking telling you

03:04:01.549 --> 03:04:04.629
how I feel about shit. And it's like one of the

03:04:04.629 --> 03:04:06.569
most popular podcasts in the country. His shit

03:04:06.569 --> 03:04:08.989
is dope, though. He got interesting shit to talk

03:04:08.989 --> 03:04:11.610
about. Yeah. I liked him in that movie with Pete

03:04:11.610 --> 03:04:14.229
Davidson. I didn't see that. That shit was good.

03:04:14.530 --> 03:04:16.930
He's great in everything he does. He can do everything.

03:04:17.170 --> 03:04:19.409
He's great at the drums. Yeah. You ever see Bill

03:04:19.409 --> 03:04:21.329
Burr play the drums? Yeah, he fucks it up. He

03:04:21.329 --> 03:04:23.649
fucks it up. He's really good at the drums. Multi

03:04:23.649 --> 03:04:28.360
-talented. It's like anybody who gets to that

03:04:28.360 --> 03:04:32.840
level. There's levels of things. Levels of hip

03:04:32.840 --> 03:04:35.459
-hop, levels of rock music, levels of comedy,

03:04:35.620 --> 03:04:37.840
levels of everything. When you get to that level

03:04:37.840 --> 03:04:41.579
and you just have a different way of... You can

03:04:41.579 --> 03:04:44.260
do anything. If you set your mind to it, you

03:04:44.260 --> 03:04:49.780
can do anything. It's meant to be done. I sent

03:04:49.780 --> 03:04:51.579
you one more song. I want to play one more song

03:04:51.579 --> 03:04:54.840
off of the algorithm. Make a lot of money. It's

03:04:54.840 --> 03:04:57.620
Fabulous Dave East and Snoop Dogg produced by

03:04:57.620 --> 03:05:50.260
Hi -Tech. My God. Give it to me, Jamie. What

03:05:50.260 --> 03:05:51.940
all my niggas saying? What all my niggas saying?

03:06:12.570 --> 03:06:18.829
I feel like we could do a lot of these. Come

03:06:18.829 --> 03:06:20.870
on. Why not? I feel like we could do a lot of

03:06:20.870 --> 03:06:23.569
these. Why not, not why? I feel like this is

03:06:23.569 --> 03:06:26.969
the beginning. We can do many, many, many episodes

03:06:26.969 --> 03:06:30.870
of this. I feel like there's going to be a time

03:06:30.870 --> 03:06:32.790
where you have five phones in front of you, where

03:06:32.790 --> 03:06:40.370
three's not enough. Three's not enough. This

03:06:40.370 --> 03:06:42.409
is about as high as I've ever been on a podcast.

03:06:42.770 --> 03:06:44.969
I just want to tell everybody out there, if I

03:06:44.969 --> 03:06:47.030
didn't make any sense, believe me, I realized

03:06:47.030 --> 03:06:51.329
why I was talking. I didn't make any sense. I

03:06:51.329 --> 03:06:53.670
was in another dimension when this thing started.

03:06:54.909 --> 03:06:58.870
I think we're okay now, though. I feel like I'm

03:06:58.870 --> 03:07:18.110
back. Me too. Jamie's a little jealous. It's

03:07:18.110 --> 03:07:19.409
all right. Look at him over there. Next time.

03:07:21.950 --> 03:07:24.430
That Def Jam chain on, man. You got to watch

03:07:24.430 --> 03:07:26.510
out for the suckers. You got to watch out for

03:07:26.510 --> 03:07:30.270
family. But most importantly, you got to watch

03:07:30.270 --> 03:07:33.850
out for the anxiety, right? Because when you're

03:07:33.850 --> 03:07:36.290
making money, you just get so anxious to make

03:07:36.290 --> 03:07:39.209
more of it. But you got to learn how. And that

03:07:39.209 --> 03:07:40.569
was going to be the next song on the record,

03:07:40.649 --> 03:07:43.270
Anxiety. I'm leaving my roaches as a. How does

03:07:43.270 --> 03:07:50.850
this open up? As. Artifacts. History. Leave all

03:07:50.850 --> 03:07:53.370
that tobacco, too, so we can talk about climate

03:07:53.370 --> 03:07:55.549
change. Let me get that for you. Yeah, please

03:07:55.549 --> 03:07:58.049
do. Let me show you how to do it. You got to

03:07:58.049 --> 03:08:06.469
up, and then you got to click it. Like that.

03:08:10.209 --> 03:08:13.659
You got it? I'm going to get it. This way. We

03:08:13.659 --> 03:08:17.280
can do this afterwards. Now, there we go. I'm

03:08:17.280 --> 03:08:19.639
about to drape you out. Oh, he's going to drape

03:08:19.639 --> 03:08:22.520
me out. This is better than being knighted. Yeah,

03:08:22.520 --> 03:08:44.719
I mean... Fuck all you sirs. I dreamed that there

03:08:44.719 --> 03:08:47.040
was going to be a time where Snoop would hang

03:08:47.040 --> 03:08:50.040
a chain around my neck and say, drape you with

03:08:50.040 --> 03:08:53.079
the drip drop. That's Def Jam Records, man. You

03:08:53.079 --> 03:08:53.899
know what that means? This is Def Jam Records.

03:08:54.079 --> 03:08:56.040
I do. Thank you. You know what that means. You

03:08:56.040 --> 03:08:59.760
a hip -hopper story. I do. I am. I'm a giant

03:08:59.760 --> 03:09:01.760
fan of hip -hop. That's Beastie Boys, Public

03:09:01.760 --> 03:09:07.180
Enemy, EPMD, Slick Rick, LL Cool J. Yes. Come

03:09:07.180 --> 03:09:09.979
on, man. Yes. That's foundation. It is foundation.

03:09:10.379 --> 03:09:14.379
If you went to the history of music and musical

03:09:14.379 --> 03:09:17.840
influences, Def Jam is giant, right? If you think

03:09:17.840 --> 03:09:19.940
about all the different labels and all the different

03:09:19.940 --> 03:09:23.780
trends of music, the amount of insanely good

03:09:23.780 --> 03:09:27.360
music that came out of Def Jam. Def Jam has been

03:09:27.360 --> 03:09:30.200
the staple of hip -hop since the beginning of

03:09:30.200 --> 03:09:33.579
hip -hop. We were talking about this earlier,

03:09:33.680 --> 03:09:36.079
whether it's the late 70s or the early 80s, whatever

03:09:36.079 --> 03:09:40.819
it was when hip -hop emerged. That's really crazy

03:09:40.819 --> 03:09:43.520
that you're talking about an art form that's

03:09:43.520 --> 03:09:46.360
only 40 years old. Hip -hop is only 40 years

03:09:46.360 --> 03:09:50.139
old, but hip -hop is the future because it constantly

03:09:50.139 --> 03:09:53.959
grows and grows and grows. It started from somebody

03:09:53.959 --> 03:09:56.639
doing it on the street corners and DJing and

03:09:56.639 --> 03:09:59.299
whatnot. Now it's global. It's where you can't

03:09:59.299 --> 03:10:01.180
do nothing without hip -hop. It's a part of everything

03:10:01.180 --> 03:10:03.600
moving and shaking. Well, you know what it is?

03:10:03.659 --> 03:10:07.739
It's a powerful new style of musical culture.

03:10:08.690 --> 03:10:11.270
It's a style that's only, you know, if you look

03:10:11.270 --> 03:10:13.270
at the hundreds a year. But if you really go

03:10:13.270 --> 03:10:15.229
back, that's where it's crazy, Snoop. If you

03:10:15.229 --> 03:10:19.590
go back 150, 250 years ago, people were just

03:10:19.590 --> 03:10:22.750
playing piano and shit. Right. No words. No words.

03:10:22.850 --> 03:10:26.569
Yeah. They had, like, they had guitars and they

03:10:26.569 --> 03:10:29.770
had different instruments. But where's all the,

03:10:29.790 --> 03:10:35.219
like, amazing lyrics? I know, right? Like Beethoven.

03:10:35.260 --> 03:10:37.500
If you go to the old, old, old... The classical

03:10:37.500 --> 03:10:40.399
music. Yeah, the oldest shit. When was Beethoven?

03:10:40.459 --> 03:10:43.159
What years were those? 18 -something. And they

03:10:43.159 --> 03:10:45.239
told their stories through their music. They

03:10:45.239 --> 03:10:47.280
had no words. And I'm going to tell you, I went

03:10:47.280 --> 03:10:49.319
to a fucking classical concert with a friend

03:10:49.319 --> 03:10:51.819
of mine. We was working out together, and we

03:10:51.819 --> 03:10:54.040
had a bet, and I lost the bet, so she was like,

03:10:54.059 --> 03:10:55.920
you got to come to a classical concert with me.

03:10:56.079 --> 03:10:58.100
I went to a classical concert with her at the

03:10:58.100 --> 03:11:01.700
Hollywood Bowl, and they didn't sing one fucking

03:11:01.700 --> 03:11:04.870
word. And all while they was doing the music,

03:11:04.909 --> 03:11:07.250
she said next to me, yeah, this is the part where

03:11:07.250 --> 03:11:11.010
he kills his father. I'm like, how the fuck do

03:11:11.010 --> 03:11:13.170
you know that? And he ain't said a motherfucking

03:11:13.170 --> 03:11:16.110
word. Then later on, I looked over at her. She

03:11:16.110 --> 03:11:17.770
was crying like a motherfucker. I'm like, what's

03:11:17.770 --> 03:11:20.770
going on? This is the part where he dies. This

03:11:20.770 --> 03:11:22.829
is the same shit they was playing when I walked

03:11:22.829 --> 03:11:26.409
in. How do you know? Did you play Beethoven's

03:11:26.409 --> 03:11:28.030
Fifth Symphony? You have to have a different

03:11:28.030 --> 03:11:31.549
ear to listen to that. Yeah. I was just thinking

03:11:31.549 --> 03:11:34.899
the opera, though. Just play Beethoven's Fifth

03:11:34.899 --> 03:11:37.500
Symphony. Pre -opera. Pre -opera. Classical.

03:11:37.500 --> 03:11:40.379
Just instrumentation. Play Beethoven's Fifth

03:11:40.379 --> 03:11:44.520
because what I want to get at is that I feel

03:11:44.520 --> 03:11:47.860
like I never got Grateful Dead. I know people

03:11:47.860 --> 03:11:50.559
love it, but I never got it. For whatever reason.

03:11:50.620 --> 03:11:53.879
I'm missing that gene. You know? I was into Leonard

03:11:53.879 --> 03:11:56.159
Skinner. I was into all kinds of shit. Leonard

03:11:56.159 --> 03:11:58.819
Skinner. I went on tour with him for about two

03:11:58.819 --> 03:12:05.520
months. But listen to this. This fucking madman

03:12:05.520 --> 03:12:09.200
figured out how to compose music when there had

03:12:09.200 --> 03:12:12.219
been no music composed. How much shit had been

03:12:12.219 --> 03:12:15.620
before him? I don't know, but how much shit sounded

03:12:15.620 --> 03:12:17.700
like this? I'm going to say none of it. Because

03:12:17.700 --> 03:12:22.219
it exists now. To this day, I can say in 2021,

03:12:22.579 --> 03:12:25.559
Beethoven's Fifth. And you know what I'm talking

03:12:25.559 --> 03:12:27.840
about. When I hear this music, you know what

03:12:27.840 --> 03:12:30.399
I think about? A fucking cartoon in the 70s.

03:12:30.399 --> 03:12:32.559
Some little cartoon. It always had shit like

03:12:32.559 --> 03:12:35.420
this. Yeah. Yeah. Right? Yeah, it was always

03:12:35.420 --> 03:12:38.459
trumpets. Yeah. Yeah. Looney Tunes. Harps and

03:12:38.459 --> 03:12:41.559
shit. Yeah. Guess when it was composed. When?

03:12:42.500 --> 03:12:46.559
1790. 1808. Wow. That was close. Yeah. That was

03:12:46.559 --> 03:12:50.260
pretty good. Opera was 1500s. Wow. I was thinking

03:12:50.260 --> 03:12:51.899
in my head it was microphones. You couldn't sing

03:12:51.899 --> 03:12:53.719
louder than this, so you'd have to be louder.

03:12:53.979 --> 03:12:56.100
So that's why they had those people, those bellowing

03:12:56.100 --> 03:12:58.520
voices. Yelling as loud as they possibly could.

03:12:58.639 --> 03:13:04.340
No magnification. Right. The echo was in the

03:13:04.340 --> 03:13:07.920
room. Yeah. It was the shape. That special microphone.

03:13:08.860 --> 03:13:10.860
This one? Once you get a special microphone like

03:13:10.860 --> 03:13:13.079
that, then you can hear words. Oh, like this

03:13:13.079 --> 03:13:15.819
one? Yeah. What about a special mic like the

03:13:15.819 --> 03:13:18.459
motherfucking mic I came up in this bitch with?

03:13:27.000 --> 03:13:30.479
That's the perfect mic, too. It's got LEDs. It's

03:13:30.479 --> 03:13:34.059
lit up. Are we on joint number six? I done went

03:13:34.059 --> 03:13:35.479
through two packs, man. This is going to be my

03:13:35.479 --> 03:13:37.979
last one, Joe. Yeah, I'm just sitting back here.

03:13:38.459 --> 03:13:40.420
I smoked one. I had to roll one for the finale.

03:13:40.420 --> 03:13:42.340
I had three hits an hour and a half ago, and

03:13:42.340 --> 03:13:46.909
I'm still nervous. It's for the finale. Jamie

03:13:46.909 --> 03:13:49.629
done got $19 worth of secondhand smoke over this

03:13:49.629 --> 03:13:51.989
just standing around him like a bodyguard. Just

03:13:51.989 --> 03:13:54.149
the fact that you have three phones running with

03:13:54.149 --> 03:14:02.250
no screen dimmer is amazing. I'm going to dim

03:14:02.250 --> 03:14:03.750
it for you, Joe. I'm going to turn it down. You

03:14:03.750 --> 03:14:05.250
don't have to dim it, man. I'm happy you're out

03:14:05.250 --> 03:14:07.569
there. I don't give a fuck. Keep that thing on.

03:14:07.670 --> 03:14:10.209
Keep it on. I don't care. I'm happy you're out

03:14:10.209 --> 03:14:13.040
there. You make me feel happy. You really do.

03:14:13.159 --> 03:14:16.040
I'm so glad there's people like you out there.

03:14:16.420 --> 03:14:19.920
I'm glad to keep it moving. I know, Snoop, but

03:14:19.920 --> 03:14:23.760
it's hard. I always compare your kind of level

03:14:23.760 --> 03:14:28.670
of fame to a re -entry from a spaceship. It's

03:14:28.670 --> 03:14:30.870
like how much pressure can you take? Can you

03:14:30.870 --> 03:14:33.750
survive reentry? Because you get shot up in the

03:14:33.750 --> 03:14:37.909
stratosphere. And no one's designed to be as

03:14:37.909 --> 03:14:41.129
famous as Snoop Dogg is. It's not natural. It's

03:14:41.129 --> 03:14:44.309
not normal. So when a guy like you is that famous

03:14:44.309 --> 03:14:47.409
and comes out of it so smooth and smiley and

03:14:47.409 --> 03:14:50.850
happy, and I'm like, you might be the greatest

03:14:50.850 --> 03:14:54.709
of all time at dealing with celebrity. And I'm

03:14:54.709 --> 03:14:56.709
not bullshitting. Wow, you know I had a relationship

03:14:56.709 --> 03:15:00.870
with Muhammad Ali. That's, you know, I mean,

03:15:00.889 --> 03:15:03.909
he was also, as a boxer, one of the greatest

03:15:03.909 --> 03:15:06.909
of all time. That guy sacrificed three years

03:15:06.909 --> 03:15:08.290
of his fucking career because he didn't want

03:15:08.290 --> 03:15:11.069
to kill people in Vietnam. As a kid, he was the

03:15:11.069 --> 03:15:15.069
greatest to me and everybody around me. And Bruce

03:15:15.069 --> 03:15:18.069
Lee was right behind him. My parents were hippies.

03:15:18.569 --> 03:15:21.690
Oh, wow. And my parents did not watch boxing.

03:15:22.250 --> 03:15:25.690
But they wanted me to watch Muhammad Ali try

03:15:25.690 --> 03:15:28.469
to win his title back from Leon Spinks. Wow.

03:15:28.750 --> 03:15:32.409
I was living in San Francisco. Leon only had

03:15:32.409 --> 03:15:35.170
two teeth. Rest in peace, Leon. I think he had

03:15:35.170 --> 03:15:39.430
six or seven, but point taken. But he beat Muhammad

03:15:39.430 --> 03:15:42.010
Ali in the first fight. Ali didn't train for

03:15:42.010 --> 03:15:45.370
him, underestimated him. And Leon Spinks. And

03:15:45.370 --> 03:15:47.510
it was also like Ali had been through the goddamn

03:15:47.510 --> 03:15:50.989
ringer. He had been through Joe Frazier. He had

03:15:50.989 --> 03:15:52.729
been through George Foreman. He had been through

03:15:52.729 --> 03:15:56.770
so much. Ken Norton. Oh, broke his jaw. He had

03:15:56.770 --> 03:15:59.709
been through so much. So that Ali of that time

03:15:59.709 --> 03:16:02.190
was like, it was hard to get Ali up for a big

03:16:02.190 --> 03:16:04.389
fight. And he didn't get up for a small fight.

03:16:04.469 --> 03:16:06.930
And he wound up losing the title. And Leon Spinks.

03:16:07.500 --> 03:16:10.299
who was the brother of the light heavyweight

03:16:10.299 --> 03:16:13.440
champion, Michael Spinks, who was the Jinx, who

03:16:13.440 --> 03:16:14.920
was one of the greatest light heavyweights of

03:16:14.920 --> 03:16:17.559
all time. He fucked up when he went heavyweight

03:16:17.559 --> 03:16:20.100
into Mike Tyson's lane. It's a mistake. He used

03:16:20.100 --> 03:16:22.659
to fight at 175. He was the shit at that level.

03:16:22.920 --> 03:16:26.260
They were too big. But the money was also too

03:16:26.260 --> 03:16:29.159
big, so he took a chance, and he found out. But

03:16:29.159 --> 03:16:33.000
my parents, who were hippies, made me watch Muhammad

03:16:33.000 --> 03:16:36.379
Ali versus Leon Spinks because it wasn't about

03:16:36.379 --> 03:16:39.920
the fight. ABC, why World of Sports? Howard Cosell.

03:16:39.979 --> 03:16:44.079
Exactly. It was about this guy who stood against

03:16:44.079 --> 03:16:47.100
the Vietnam War. That's what it was about. He

03:16:47.100 --> 03:16:49.600
stood up for living. He stood up for, this is

03:16:49.600 --> 03:16:53.000
what he said, no Viet Cong ever did shit to me.

03:16:53.079 --> 03:16:55.979
That's what he said, basically. And he said,

03:16:56.040 --> 03:16:58.360
why am I killing them? I don't have any beef

03:16:58.360 --> 03:17:00.920
with these people. America done more wrong than

03:17:00.920 --> 03:17:03.959
me than Vietnam. And history has proven him to

03:17:03.959 --> 03:17:07.459
be correct. Because the whole reason for getting

03:17:07.459 --> 03:17:09.620
into that war was something called the Gulf of

03:17:09.620 --> 03:17:12.799
Tonkin incident, which was a false flag, which

03:17:12.799 --> 03:17:16.000
means the government pretended that we got attacked

03:17:16.000 --> 03:17:19.420
by the North Vietnamese, but we didn't. It was

03:17:19.420 --> 03:17:21.440
bullshit. And my father had to go over there

03:17:21.440 --> 03:17:25.489
and serve time in Vietnam. He did. I think two

03:17:25.489 --> 03:17:28.549
years, and he made it out of there. And thank

03:17:28.549 --> 03:17:30.729
God he made it out of there because this is before

03:17:30.729 --> 03:17:33.750
I was even thought of. This was in the late 60s,

03:17:33.750 --> 03:17:36.170
and I was born in 71. So if he don't make it

03:17:36.170 --> 03:17:39.870
out of there, I don't get here. I'm so happy

03:17:39.870 --> 03:17:43.170
that you got here, but I'm so unhappy that there

03:17:43.170 --> 03:17:46.170
was ever a situation where people maybe who would

03:17:46.170 --> 03:17:48.829
have also contributed didn't get here because

03:17:48.829 --> 03:17:51.610
their family died over there. Their daddy died

03:17:51.610 --> 03:17:54.430
over there. For nothing? For nothing. For nothing.

03:17:54.489 --> 03:17:57.370
Do you know what my dad told me? He said the

03:17:57.370 --> 03:18:01.069
life expectancy for a black man in Vietnam in

03:18:01.069 --> 03:18:09.969
1968 was 16 .4 seconds. What? 16 .4 seconds.

03:18:09.989 --> 03:18:13.110
So the moment you get out there, 16 seconds later,

03:18:13.250 --> 03:18:16.950
you're dead. Check this out. They're getting

03:18:16.950 --> 03:18:19.750
there on the helicopter. On the helicopter land,

03:18:20.049 --> 03:18:23.540
naturally... They're probably going to make the

03:18:23.540 --> 03:18:26.319
black soldiers. This is 68, before Martin Luther

03:18:26.319 --> 03:18:28.739
King got killed or right around the time. Naturally,

03:18:28.959 --> 03:18:31.500
black guys, y 'all go first. Y 'all walking on

03:18:31.500 --> 03:18:33.700
landmines. And then once the shooting starts,

03:18:33.959 --> 03:18:36.459
guess who's shooting at you from the back? The

03:18:36.459 --> 03:18:38.579
white southern soldiers who don't like black

03:18:38.579 --> 03:18:41.280
people. who now you're being shot at from the

03:18:41.280 --> 03:18:44.000
front and the back, and you're stepping on landmines,

03:18:44.040 --> 03:18:46.959
and you possibly could become a POW, and you

03:18:46.959 --> 03:18:48.639
really don't have no good training because you

03:18:48.639 --> 03:18:50.780
really never been around guns, and you're a teenager,

03:18:50.899 --> 03:18:53.440
and they just throw you in the war. So this is

03:18:53.440 --> 03:18:55.000
what my people had to go through. These are those

03:18:55.000 --> 03:18:58.479
stories that are not told that people like me

03:18:58.479 --> 03:19:01.379
made it out of because my dad was blessed enough

03:19:01.379 --> 03:19:05.520
to get out of there. Now you see why I'm a survivor

03:19:05.520 --> 03:19:09.079
now, right? Yeah. That's the thing about this

03:19:09.079 --> 03:19:12.020
country. It's like we all want to praise patriotism.

03:19:12.059 --> 03:19:14.500
We want to say we're in this together. But then

03:19:14.500 --> 03:19:17.180
you think about the things the very military

03:19:17.180 --> 03:19:20.360
has done, the way they've done it, the way they've

03:19:20.360 --> 03:19:23.079
brought people together in the worst of ways

03:19:23.079 --> 03:19:25.680
to fight for a war that doesn't make any sense.

03:19:25.940 --> 03:19:28.360
And then it makes you angry. My dad was over

03:19:28.360 --> 03:19:31.260
there when Martin Luther King got killed. So

03:19:31.260 --> 03:19:35.540
imagine how the black soldiers felt when that

03:19:35.540 --> 03:19:39.950
happened. You know what I'm saying? And there's

03:19:39.950 --> 03:19:43.850
still no segregation. They're still living the

03:19:43.850 --> 03:19:46.370
way they was living. That shit didn't kick in

03:19:46.370 --> 03:19:49.090
until like 70, 71 when it was the hippie era

03:19:49.090 --> 03:19:51.250
where it was like, get that shit out of here.

03:19:51.489 --> 03:19:53.709
White people, black people, we all getting along.

03:19:53.889 --> 03:19:55.709
We don't know what the fuck y 'all was brought

03:19:55.709 --> 03:19:58.569
up on. I love people. I love weed. I love good

03:19:58.569 --> 03:20:00.389
music, and I love to have fun, and I'm raising

03:20:00.389 --> 03:20:03.239
my kids to love people. That happened in our

03:20:03.239 --> 03:20:06.799
era. When was you born, 61? 67. I was born in

03:20:06.799 --> 03:20:08.879
70. So by the time you was able to walk and run

03:20:08.879 --> 03:20:11.520
and play, your parents was full on hippies and

03:20:11.520 --> 03:20:14.020
I was just being born. And that's the era that

03:20:14.020 --> 03:20:16.139
I came up in. I come up in the hippie era. That's

03:20:16.139 --> 03:20:18.319
why I'm so full of love. Yeah. Because of the

03:20:18.319 --> 03:20:20.479
way I was brought up. I was brought up in that

03:20:20.479 --> 03:20:24.520
era where I had Mexican friends, Asian friends,

03:20:24.659 --> 03:20:27.620
white friends and all sorts of friends. And I

03:20:27.620 --> 03:20:29.360
knew their mother. They knew my mother. And it

03:20:29.360 --> 03:20:31.200
was like. They didn't give a fuck about what

03:20:31.200 --> 03:20:33.799
your race and nationality was. If they can keep

03:20:33.799 --> 03:20:36.860
us divided by race and nationality, then we won't

03:20:36.860 --> 03:20:38.739
pay attention to the fact that it's really divided

03:20:38.739 --> 03:20:43.639
by class and by government. That's what happens.

03:20:43.760 --> 03:20:46.979
When they get people squabbling about who's white

03:20:46.979 --> 03:20:48.620
and who's black and who's red and who's blue

03:20:48.620 --> 03:20:52.079
and who wants affirmative action and who doesn't

03:20:52.079 --> 03:20:55.500
and who wants universal basic income and who

03:20:55.500 --> 03:21:00.020
doesn't. Here's what I want. I want... everybody

03:21:00.020 --> 03:21:03.020
to live a better life thank you across the board

03:21:03.020 --> 03:21:06.280
how about it and if you don't start looking at

03:21:06.280 --> 03:21:10.180
the lowest economic rung and say before we deal

03:21:10.180 --> 03:21:13.979
with all the bullshit that's happening and whatever

03:21:13.979 --> 03:21:16.639
whatever subject you want if we don't take if

03:21:16.639 --> 03:21:19.360
we're we're a team if we're team america and

03:21:19.360 --> 03:21:20.760
we don't take care of the people that are in

03:21:20.760 --> 03:21:23.379
the lowest economic rung of the ladder they're

03:21:23.379 --> 03:21:26.620
clearly stuck they're in a bad spot they got

03:21:26.620 --> 03:21:29.620
a bad roll of the dice We got to even that out.

03:21:30.139 --> 03:21:33.780
Look, we're as strong as our weakest link. But

03:21:33.780 --> 03:21:36.180
here's what's weird. You want to know what's

03:21:36.180 --> 03:21:39.239
weird? Talk to me. When a person comes out of

03:21:39.239 --> 03:21:42.559
that and emerges, they're super powered. Like

03:21:42.559 --> 03:21:45.760
if you get yourself a Marvin Hagler, you know,

03:21:45.760 --> 03:21:49.000
right? If you get yourself a Mike Tyson, comes

03:21:49.000 --> 03:21:53.299
out of Brownsville, like it's not good. It's

03:21:53.299 --> 03:21:55.719
not good. It's wrong. It's all bad in every way.

03:21:55.840 --> 03:21:58.459
But when he emerges, he emerges as fucking nuclear

03:21:58.459 --> 03:22:01.639
-powered, man. Yeah. And then we all talk about

03:22:01.639 --> 03:22:04.819
him for era. Like, for eras and eras. Like, to

03:22:04.819 --> 03:22:06.979
this day, we're still talking about Jack Johnson.

03:22:07.579 --> 03:22:09.459
Because that was a bad motherfucker. That was

03:22:09.459 --> 03:22:11.440
a bad motherfucker. Fight four people in one

03:22:11.440 --> 03:22:14.299
night and drive off with any woman he want? Yeah.

03:22:14.379 --> 03:22:17.360
Jack Johnson was... A motherfucker. I'm waiting

03:22:17.360 --> 03:22:18.840
to see if they're going to make his movie. It's

03:22:18.840 --> 03:22:21.360
so overdue. Well, they did that Ken Burns documentary.

03:22:21.659 --> 03:22:24.200
Did you ever see that? He need a movie. A movie.

03:22:24.420 --> 03:22:28.559
Motion picture. Shaq. Shaquille O 'Neal. Get

03:22:28.559 --> 03:22:30.639
his ass back on the phone, Shaq. You're Jack

03:22:30.639 --> 03:22:34.260
Johnson. Here's the thing. He's way too big,

03:22:34.360 --> 03:22:37.399
but for the way people are today versus the way

03:22:37.399 --> 03:22:39.659
people are then, it almost makes sense. It do.

03:22:39.940 --> 03:22:42.420
They called him the Galveston Giant, but I think

03:22:42.420 --> 03:22:45.040
he was only like six foot two. But that was big

03:22:45.040 --> 03:22:46.940
back then. It was giant back then. No one had

03:22:46.940 --> 03:22:52.260
food. Stoop, no one had food. Wow. I read that

03:22:52.260 --> 03:22:54.940
if you go back to 1860, the average American

03:22:54.940 --> 03:23:01.479
male weighed 130 pounds. It was a cap out. And

03:23:01.479 --> 03:23:05.620
it was families. Back then, people made families.

03:23:05.899 --> 03:23:10.739
Because I know my mother's family had eight brothers

03:23:10.739 --> 03:23:13.729
in my... Father's family got 13 brothers and

03:23:13.729 --> 03:23:16.610
sisters. How tall was Jack Johnson? Six foot.

03:23:16.790 --> 03:23:19.510
Six foot! Why did he look like he's six and nine?

03:23:19.510 --> 03:23:22.409
Six foot, because everyone was so little. Six

03:23:22.409 --> 03:23:26.290
foot. He was the Galveston Giant. At six foot

03:23:26.290 --> 03:23:29.729
tall. Now imagine, Tyson Fury is six foot nine.

03:23:30.850 --> 03:23:34.209
He would have fucking... Andre the Giant probably

03:23:34.209 --> 03:23:35.530
would have been like... He's six nine! He would

03:23:35.530 --> 03:23:37.290
have been like King Kong, get him, motherfuckers,

03:23:37.290 --> 03:23:40.610
if he'd have woke up. Tyson Fury. Like, this

03:23:40.610 --> 03:23:44.049
is like, everybody, like, you need to look at

03:23:44.049 --> 03:23:46.729
what creates a great fighter. Struggle. Right.

03:23:46.829 --> 03:23:50.549
That guy came, he's a gypsy. He's the gypsy king.

03:23:50.829 --> 03:23:53.489
Like, a real gypsy. Like, they travel around

03:23:53.489 --> 03:23:56.790
in caravans, which are basically like Winnebago's.

03:23:56.809 --> 03:24:00.170
They're in trailers. They live in trailers. And

03:24:00.170 --> 03:24:06.709
he's the king. He's six foot nine. Let's go.

03:24:06.989 --> 03:24:10.840
Zerxy. He's Zerxy. Yeah, it's like that's a version

03:24:10.840 --> 03:24:13.899
of Xerxe. That version from that era. The fact

03:24:13.899 --> 03:24:16.659
that Deontay Wilder put everybody else in orbit.

03:24:17.780 --> 03:24:20.120
Everybody else. Everybody he fought, he put them

03:24:20.120 --> 03:24:23.040
in orbit. He eventually connected. Didn't matter.

03:24:23.139 --> 03:24:27.000
Cuban Olympic team member. Fuck you. Blam. Everybody's

03:24:27.000 --> 03:24:30.840
going to sleep. And he caught Tyson. He caught

03:24:30.840 --> 03:24:34.020
him in the 12th rockin' round of that first fight.

03:24:34.139 --> 03:24:36.559
The 12th round. He hit him with a right hand

03:24:36.559 --> 03:24:39.000
and a left hook behind it. And Tyson was flat

03:24:39.000 --> 03:24:41.340
out on his back. He caught him in the last fight

03:24:41.340 --> 03:24:44.340
he lost. Yep. caught him twice maybe had him

03:24:44.340 --> 03:24:46.719
hurt worse than he had him hurt in the 12th round

03:24:46.719 --> 03:24:49.000
of the first fight the thing that I noticed and

03:24:49.000 --> 03:24:52.000
nobody was they thought I was being funny but

03:24:52.000 --> 03:24:55.139
if you look at Wilder's legs they don't have

03:24:55.139 --> 03:24:59.360
any support to what he's pushing his legs look

03:24:59.360 --> 03:25:03.360
like mine like Wiz Khalifa's legs are bigger

03:25:03.360 --> 03:25:05.280
than his, so you got to get that leg day in.

03:25:05.319 --> 03:25:09.000
It should be all leg day, all core, and leg day.

03:25:09.040 --> 03:25:11.399
Because up top, from the waist up, he on deck.

03:25:11.620 --> 03:25:13.559
But from the waist down, he got to get stronger.

03:25:14.819 --> 03:25:17.360
He has a certain vulnerability in that he can

03:25:17.360 --> 03:25:20.299
knock anyone's lights out if he connects. But

03:25:20.299 --> 03:25:23.420
if he's forced to move in odd ways, he struggles.

03:25:23.860 --> 03:25:26.559
You didn't see his legs, though. No, I did. So

03:25:26.559 --> 03:25:29.530
what'd you do? 100%. You're right. Like Tyson

03:25:29.530 --> 03:25:32.149
Fury one of the things about him is he'll he'll

03:25:32.149 --> 03:25:34.889
stutter step a lot He'll like do this his feet

03:25:34.889 --> 03:25:37.610
work was amazing. It's amazing and he's strong

03:25:37.610 --> 03:25:40.729
He got a strong order where yeah cuz knocked

03:25:40.729 --> 03:25:42.850
him out But he was so strong to where it took

03:25:42.850 --> 03:25:45.149
so too much The thing is like just cuz you're

03:25:45.149 --> 03:25:47.469
fat doesn't mean you're weak right you got to

03:25:47.469 --> 03:25:49.870
realize that and people look at a fat guy He's

03:25:49.870 --> 03:25:52.430
got like back fat like I think it's part of the

03:25:52.430 --> 03:25:56.229
hustle Because if he can show up Yeah, because

03:25:56.229 --> 03:25:58.870
he can show up and stare at you with his gut

03:25:58.870 --> 03:26:00.690
hanging out and know he's going to fuck you up.

03:26:00.750 --> 03:26:03.229
That's some wild confidence, man. I like how

03:26:03.229 --> 03:26:06.110
he used his reach. But if you're a guy who's

03:26:06.110 --> 03:26:09.110
ripped and shredded and you think about it a

03:26:09.110 --> 03:26:12.149
lot, and a guy who's already fucked you up, and

03:26:12.149 --> 03:26:15.709
he's got belly fat and back fat. And he's 40

03:26:15.709 --> 03:26:17.829
pounds heavier than the last time you seen him.

03:26:19.010 --> 03:26:21.629
And he still fucks you up again. You knock him

03:26:21.629 --> 03:26:23.350
down. You hit him with your best shot. He gets

03:26:23.350 --> 03:26:28.530
up and fucks you up. He's a more skillful fighter.

03:26:28.649 --> 03:26:32.250
You know what it is? He started out his career

03:26:32.250 --> 03:26:35.870
as a boxer, and then in the 12th round of the

03:26:35.870 --> 03:26:38.569
first fight with Deontay Wilder, he became a

03:26:38.569 --> 03:26:41.329
slugger. Right. Because he realized once he had

03:26:41.329 --> 03:26:44.049
Deontay on his back and he had him on his heels,

03:26:44.190 --> 03:26:46.469
he had him backing up, he could fuck him up.

03:26:46.760 --> 03:26:49.280
It's after Deontay almost knocked him out. It's

03:26:49.280 --> 03:26:51.379
killer instinct, though. You know that. It is,

03:26:51.379 --> 03:26:53.680
but it's also like he figured something out,

03:26:53.799 --> 03:26:56.079
and he realized that Deontay has this insane

03:26:56.079 --> 03:26:59.379
amount of power going forward. But not backwards.

03:26:59.520 --> 03:27:02.819
Not as much. Right. If you can let him plan himself,

03:27:03.079 --> 03:27:05.200
like you do with Luis Ortiz. You're in trouble.

03:27:05.219 --> 03:27:07.360
Yeah, you're in trouble. He hits dudes on the

03:27:07.360 --> 03:27:10.030
forehead, and they go night -night. To this day.

03:27:10.270 --> 03:27:12.790
To this day. To this day. You know, that was

03:27:12.790 --> 03:27:15.530
my friend Radio Raheem that did that. Yeah. That

03:27:15.530 --> 03:27:18.129
interview. To this day. Yeah. He was just trying

03:27:18.129 --> 03:27:21.909
to get Deontay to expand upon his thoughts. I

03:27:21.909 --> 03:27:25.010
love the way. To this day. He didn't know Deontay

03:27:25.010 --> 03:27:27.170
was going to get mad at him. He was just like,

03:27:27.229 --> 03:27:29.030
yeah, I'm with you. And then he realized, oh

03:27:29.030 --> 03:27:33.790
my God, he's talking to me. That's that boxer's

03:27:33.790 --> 03:27:35.610
mentality. Either you're with me or you're against

03:27:35.610 --> 03:27:40.260
me. Exactly. And Deontay was angry. Have any

03:27:40.260 --> 03:27:44.420
boxers got upset at you for commentary? Nah,

03:27:44.479 --> 03:27:46.340
not really, because, you know, they know I got

03:27:46.340 --> 03:27:49.520
squabble on me, so. You know, when they come

03:27:49.520 --> 03:27:51.079
with that shit they talking, I'm like, but it's

03:27:51.079 --> 03:27:53.100
still on them first. Then have my security clean

03:27:53.100 --> 03:27:57.100
them up. Go wash his face. Take him in the bathroom

03:27:57.100 --> 03:28:00.719
and wash his face. Get him back right. Nah, I'm

03:28:00.719 --> 03:28:02.879
cool with everybody, man. They know Snoop Dogg

03:28:02.879 --> 03:28:05.639
is a fun -spirited dude. I respect everybody's

03:28:05.639 --> 03:28:07.500
craft, and they know that's what comes with the

03:28:07.500 --> 03:28:09.739
territory. If they came to see me perform and

03:28:09.739 --> 03:28:11.920
I didn't perform as good as I was supposed to

03:28:11.920 --> 03:28:14.780
or missed my lines or fell off stage or did something

03:28:14.780 --> 03:28:17.719
that was unorthodox, they got the right to say

03:28:17.719 --> 03:28:18.959
that. That's what we were talking about earlier

03:28:18.959 --> 03:28:21.340
as far as that tough skin to be able to take

03:28:21.340 --> 03:28:22.979
the criticism. Anytime you get in the professional

03:28:22.979 --> 03:28:25.719
field, criticism and skepticism comes with it.

03:28:27.700 --> 03:28:30.579
You know what I think would make $1 billion?

03:28:33.500 --> 03:28:37.020
Donald Trump versus Joe Biden in MMA fight. Oh,

03:28:37.040 --> 03:28:40.719
wow. It got to be a one -round, 15 -second fight

03:28:40.719 --> 03:28:42.479
because I don't know if old smoking Joe can last

03:28:42.479 --> 03:28:47.200
that long. No rounds. UFC One style. I'm putting

03:28:47.200 --> 03:28:50.540
my money on Trump because I like Trump's spirit.

03:28:51.479 --> 03:28:55.959
Who, Joe? You mean old Joe? Trump going to talk

03:28:55.959 --> 03:29:00.559
him out of most of it. I wonder who we're going

03:29:00.559 --> 03:29:03.079
to come off first, though. That's a real question.

03:29:03.239 --> 03:29:06.360
That's a good point. When are we going to have

03:29:06.360 --> 03:29:11.139
a president again that we actually like? Is there

03:29:11.139 --> 03:29:12.899
anybody out there? Probably going to have to

03:29:12.899 --> 03:29:17.000
be a robot. Probably going to have to be a robot.

03:29:17.579 --> 03:29:19.659
Yeah, we fuck with all our robots. That motherfucker

03:29:19.659 --> 03:29:23.680
cool. Exactly. Something that we all can agree

03:29:23.680 --> 03:29:27.899
on. Yeah, it'll have to be. We're going to decide

03:29:27.899 --> 03:29:31.399
that people can't run shit. We have egos. We

03:29:31.399 --> 03:29:33.959
get in each other's way. Let the robot run it.

03:29:34.059 --> 03:29:38.420
The robots are not going to run it per se. They're

03:29:38.420 --> 03:29:41.219
just going to run like the municipalities, and

03:29:41.219 --> 03:29:43.159
they're going to take care of the sewage system

03:29:43.159 --> 03:29:45.500
and the power. And they'll be the face of it.

03:29:45.600 --> 03:29:50.959
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, let me ease your concerns.

03:29:51.459 --> 03:29:55.540
A robot is not your mayor, okay? A robot is a

03:29:55.540 --> 03:29:59.239
facilitator of all the services that we need.

03:29:59.610 --> 03:30:03.010
to have a beautiful, cohesive society. Your mayor

03:30:03.010 --> 03:30:10.510
is a trans woman. Or whatever. It's just going

03:30:10.510 --> 03:30:12.850
to be about the people. That's what it should

03:30:12.850 --> 03:30:15.030
be about. Let the people have their say and feel

03:30:15.030 --> 03:30:17.409
like it's about them. That's the world we're

03:30:17.409 --> 03:30:18.790
living in right now. We're really not living

03:30:18.790 --> 03:30:21.290
up under nobody's rules. Everybody's basically

03:30:21.290 --> 03:30:22.690
living the way they want and they're putting

03:30:22.690 --> 03:30:25.049
a lot of peace and love in the air because I

03:30:25.049 --> 03:30:27.110
just think back to a time when my grandparents

03:30:27.110 --> 03:30:30.159
and great -grandparents... were around and they

03:30:30.159 --> 03:30:32.559
couldn't do certain things and now people are

03:30:32.559 --> 03:30:34.639
doing a lot of things together and we move so

03:30:34.639 --> 03:30:36.700
far past from where we were to where we at and

03:30:36.700 --> 03:30:38.180
i just think it's just going to keep evolving

03:30:38.180 --> 03:30:41.760
in a generation right now they all about love

03:30:41.760 --> 03:30:44.659
the kids they love each other and they love to

03:30:44.659 --> 03:30:50.379
know if we can keep that as an ethic we can get

03:30:50.379 --> 03:30:52.860
through all this you know that's the thing about

03:30:52.860 --> 03:30:56.819
society like and what you do Whether you're doing

03:30:56.819 --> 03:30:59.719
commentary or what you do when you're rapping

03:30:59.719 --> 03:31:02.200
or when you're on roasts or you're talking shit

03:31:02.200 --> 03:31:06.040
and having fun, like, we have to recognize that,

03:31:06.059 --> 03:31:09.399
like, wait, that's not, it's not, you're having

03:31:09.399 --> 03:31:13.600
fun. Yeah. That's, like, it doesn't mean you're

03:31:13.600 --> 03:31:16.299
mean. Not being mean. Trying to have fun. That's

03:31:16.299 --> 03:31:18.559
it. That's all. That's it. That's all. That was

03:31:18.559 --> 03:31:21.200
my mission, Joe, to come out here and to see

03:31:21.200 --> 03:31:23.420
you get on this podcast, break off some gifts

03:31:23.420 --> 03:31:25.959
till you smoke one. or two or three or four or

03:31:25.959 --> 03:31:29.180
five with you play some good music you know chop

03:31:29.180 --> 03:31:32.579
it up share some good stories and just show camaraderie

03:31:32.579 --> 03:31:36.639
of two men who love what they do plus i got a

03:31:36.639 --> 03:31:39.899
really nice chain look at that i don't have anything

03:31:39.899 --> 03:31:43.440
like this it's very nice dev jam tells them who

03:31:43.440 --> 03:31:46.639
i am man i thank you for letting me come on man

03:31:46.639 --> 03:31:48.559
this has been beautiful it was an honor it was

03:31:48.559 --> 03:31:52.040
fun i think we had a good time i had a great

03:31:52.040 --> 03:31:53.540
time i definitely was too high in the beginning

03:31:54.840 --> 03:31:56.899
When it was off and running, I was like, whoa,

03:31:57.219 --> 03:32:00.739
this is dangerous. I felt like a dude who was

03:32:00.739 --> 03:32:04.139
like, I was skiing and I fell and I just kept

03:32:04.139 --> 03:32:06.159
going down the hill, but I saw some trees in

03:32:06.159 --> 03:32:08.299
the distance. I'm like, damn, I hope I can stop

03:32:08.299 --> 03:32:12.799
before I hit these fucking trees. I was too high.

03:32:14.000 --> 03:32:16.139
Skis and black folks don't deserve each other,

03:32:16.159 --> 03:32:18.819
so I would never be out there with you. The highest

03:32:18.819 --> 03:32:22.000
I've ever been on podcast is Wiz Khalifa. That

03:32:22.000 --> 03:32:27.829
was a rough one. um who else well a bunch of

03:32:27.829 --> 03:32:32.229
them but yeah this one yeah we we in uh planet

03:32:32.229 --> 03:32:34.190
snooper right now so we're in a whole nother

03:32:34.190 --> 03:32:36.530
dimension you know planets beyond their reach

03:32:36.530 --> 03:32:40.350
no one can get to where we at do you do you do

03:32:40.350 --> 03:32:42.590
any kind of podcast or anything like that the

03:32:42.590 --> 03:32:47.809
ggn is my thing where i created uh why are we

03:32:47.809 --> 03:32:50.620
doing it watching the animals and shit and doing

03:32:50.620 --> 03:32:53.500
little voiceovers for that shit. You watch animals?

03:32:53.739 --> 03:32:55.540
What do you mean? Yeah, show him the GGN. Pull

03:32:55.540 --> 03:32:58.239
up on them GGNs. I done had Larry King and all

03:32:58.239 --> 03:33:00.739
types of motherfuckers come on my show. Larry

03:33:00.739 --> 03:33:03.420
King was a nice guy. He was amazing. He really

03:33:03.420 --> 03:33:05.819
is a sweet guy. He was. We switched roles on

03:33:05.819 --> 03:33:10.180
my show. He was me and I was him. You got it.

03:33:10.180 --> 03:33:13.780
I heard that theme. With the animals. Seth Rogen?

03:33:13.959 --> 03:33:17.920
Yeah. Sorry for the... See, my podcast is GGN.

03:33:18.459 --> 03:33:20.719
This is just the highlights of him with different

03:33:20.719 --> 03:33:22.139
people. I was just kind of skipping through.

03:33:22.600 --> 03:33:27.340
What was the goal of the show when you started?

03:33:29.399 --> 03:33:32.760
To be a hit. To be on the air for some years.

03:33:33.799 --> 03:33:38.760
To get the adjust of the show across to people.

03:33:39.379 --> 03:33:46.799
Martin Lawrence. I don't know who you're talking

03:33:46.799 --> 03:33:50.079
to. Oh, Mario Lopez. Mario Lopez. I told him,

03:33:50.079 --> 03:33:51.780
I said, every time I'm in a fucking hotel, I

03:33:51.780 --> 03:33:54.920
see you all goddamn day. Yes. Those Vegas hotels.

03:33:55.440 --> 03:33:57.479
Goddamn. So is Mario Lopez talking about new

03:33:57.479 --> 03:33:59.840
movies? Yeah, new movie coming out this week.

03:34:00.120 --> 03:34:02.180
Like, motherfucker, I see you more than I see

03:34:02.180 --> 03:34:06.739
myself. No, but, you know, hey, that's what I

03:34:06.739 --> 03:34:09.079
do on the side. GGN. We coming back. Got some

03:34:09.079 --> 03:34:10.840
new episodes coming out. Oh, yeah, me and her,

03:34:10.899 --> 03:34:14.559
Kathy. She was amazing. Who was that? What was

03:34:14.559 --> 03:34:17.459
the first person we had? On that? The show, Jamie?

03:34:18.239 --> 03:34:22.079
And what else after that? Right, Martin. That's

03:34:22.079 --> 03:34:24.959
what it was. Dude, I used to have to follow Martin

03:34:24.959 --> 03:34:26.520
Lawrence at the comedy store when he was in his

03:34:26.520 --> 03:34:31.059
prime. You had to go after him? Snoop, let me

03:34:31.059 --> 03:34:33.020
tell you something. The lady who ran the comedy

03:34:33.020 --> 03:34:35.780
store, her name was Mitzi Shore. She was a genius.

03:34:35.780 --> 03:34:41.700
Polly's mama. Exactly. She was a genius. In 1994,

03:34:42.059 --> 03:34:44.979
when I first came to California, Comedy Store

03:34:44.979 --> 03:34:48.479
was mecca. I was out here for a TV show. My album

03:34:48.479 --> 03:34:51.979
was knocking in 94. 94. I was just getting started.

03:34:52.260 --> 03:34:56.799
In 94, when I came out here, there was one goal

03:34:56.799 --> 03:34:59.959
if you were a comedian. That was be a paid regular

03:34:59.959 --> 03:35:03.229
at the Comedy Store. So I had a TV show, but

03:35:03.229 --> 03:35:05.450
I was like, I got to be a fucking paid regular

03:35:05.450 --> 03:35:09.069
at the comedy store. And I came out here and

03:35:09.069 --> 03:35:12.069
eventually became a paid regular at the comedy

03:35:12.069 --> 03:35:14.809
store. That was all Mitzi Shore. That was this

03:35:14.809 --> 03:35:17.850
one lady who was Pauly's mom. What was my point?

03:35:17.930 --> 03:35:19.309
What were we just talking about? Martin Lawrence.

03:35:19.389 --> 03:35:23.430
Oh, so Mitzi was a, she would throw you to the

03:35:23.430 --> 03:35:26.430
wolves. So if she liked you, she would throw

03:35:26.430 --> 03:35:29.010
you to the wolves. So Martin Lawrence was in

03:35:29.010 --> 03:35:32.340
his prime. I mean the leather jumpsuit days.

03:35:32.979 --> 03:35:37.239
Dude, let me tell you something. I was 26, 27

03:35:37.239 --> 03:35:38.959
years old, whatever the fuck I was. I wasn't

03:35:38.959 --> 03:35:40.940
even that good. I was like barely passable as

03:35:40.940 --> 03:35:43.760
a comedian. And I would have to go on stage after

03:35:43.760 --> 03:35:49.250
Martin Lawrence. There was the You So Crazy days.

03:35:49.610 --> 03:35:53.170
He would erupt that place. The main room would

03:35:53.170 --> 03:35:56.969
be 350 people just falling on the ground laughing.

03:35:57.229 --> 03:36:01.850
And then I would have to go on afterwards. I

03:36:01.850 --> 03:36:05.649
bombed. I must have bombed 26 times in a row

03:36:05.649 --> 03:36:08.450
following Martin. She got you right. She knew

03:36:08.450 --> 03:36:09.690
what she was doing. She knew what she was doing.

03:36:09.930 --> 03:36:14.180
But the point was. I've said it on this podcast

03:36:14.180 --> 03:36:16.700
like 100 times. Martin Lawrence is one of the

03:36:16.700 --> 03:36:19.760
most underappreciated stand -ups ever. Wow. Because

03:36:19.760 --> 03:36:22.899
he kind of stopped doing it. But when you saw

03:36:22.899 --> 03:36:25.680
him in those 90s, like the You So Crazy days,

03:36:25.760 --> 03:36:27.860
dude, he was a monster. He was killing them Def

03:36:27.860 --> 03:36:30.639
Jam comedy specials. He was a monster. He would

03:36:30.639 --> 03:36:33.079
walk on stage, and you wanted to laugh. The moment

03:36:33.079 --> 03:36:36.139
you saw him, he had you. Yes. He had you. Yes.

03:36:36.280 --> 03:36:40.750
And he would just smash. Just smash. And find

03:36:40.750 --> 03:36:42.729
somebody in the audience and take off. I would

03:36:42.729 --> 03:36:47.590
go on after him and just eat shit. Thank you,

03:36:47.590 --> 03:36:49.350
Martin, for getting Joe where he's supposed to

03:36:49.350 --> 03:36:51.629
be at, man. Oh, my God. He helped me so much.

03:36:51.889 --> 03:36:54.510
He has no idea. But he helped me realize, like,

03:36:54.549 --> 03:36:58.209
you better be way funnier than you are. Yeah.

03:36:58.250 --> 03:36:59.809
You better be way better than you are. Thank

03:36:59.809 --> 03:37:02.250
you, good. You better be great. You better be.

03:37:02.430 --> 03:37:04.850
You got to come out of the gate guns blazing

03:37:04.850 --> 03:37:08.889
to make up for. This sort of situation. Oh, my

03:37:08.889 --> 03:37:11.629
goodness. What are these? Those are yours. Premium

03:37:11.629 --> 03:37:16.209
nutrients. What are premium nutrients? Open it

03:37:16.209 --> 03:37:19.590
up. That's another gift. Oh, my God. Yeah. That's

03:37:19.590 --> 03:37:21.430
my parting gift. You know, when you leave a game

03:37:21.430 --> 03:37:27.530
show. And parting gifts. Hold on, please. I'm

03:37:27.530 --> 03:37:29.209
going to roll me up one and give you a parting

03:37:29.209 --> 03:37:34.389
gift. Yeah. Snoop, this has been a magical day

03:37:34.389 --> 03:37:39.870
for me. More for me. I've enjoyed every minute

03:37:39.870 --> 03:37:42.829
of it. I was legit nervous about this podcast.

03:37:43.309 --> 03:37:45.850
Come on, man. Come on, man. I'm just being honest.

03:37:46.049 --> 03:37:49.389
I was a fan of yours a long time ago. Back when

03:37:49.389 --> 03:37:51.569
I could barely pay my rent. This shit came out

03:37:51.569 --> 03:37:55.750
dope. That was good. That's one of the weirdest

03:37:55.750 --> 03:37:58.629
things for me about podcasts and all the other

03:37:58.629 --> 03:38:01.969
shit I've done is getting to meet people. Up

03:38:01.969 --> 03:38:04.469
close and personal. Well, yeah, and people that...

03:38:04.829 --> 03:38:08.190
I used to buy their shit. That's what my podcast

03:38:08.190 --> 03:38:10.329
is about. When I had all the people on there,

03:38:10.370 --> 03:38:12.069
it was only about motherfuckers that I always

03:38:12.069 --> 03:38:14.549
wanted to sit down and talk to. Yeah. And I'd

03:38:14.549 --> 03:38:16.409
be on there smoking with them and chilling, making

03:38:16.409 --> 03:38:19.409
them feel comfortable, never asking them about

03:38:19.409 --> 03:38:21.809
controversy. Oh, my God, this smells so good.

03:38:25.409 --> 03:38:28.209
Can you see what it is? Yeah. It's got that glass

03:38:28.209 --> 03:38:31.350
tip on it, too. It smells amazing. It smells

03:38:31.350 --> 03:38:32.790
like I'm going to learn something about myself.

03:38:33.290 --> 03:38:35.270
And I put that glass tip on you so you got that

03:38:35.270 --> 03:38:38.290
professional. I like it. Yeah, there you go.

03:38:38.329 --> 03:38:40.090
I wish I was slightly less drunk so I could talk

03:38:40.090 --> 03:38:44.950
better. You're doing fine, Joe. You're doing

03:38:44.950 --> 03:38:49.809
fine. As are you. You're doing fine. On the way

03:38:49.809 --> 03:38:51.909
out, I want to say to all the people that's watching

03:38:51.909 --> 03:38:54.709
and listening, appreciate all the love and the

03:38:54.709 --> 03:38:56.549
support. Hey, man, it's an honor and a pleasure

03:38:56.549 --> 03:38:58.969
to be in front of real people. It's a treat when

03:38:58.969 --> 03:39:02.120
players meet. Joe Rogan. Appreciate you for letting

03:39:02.120 --> 03:39:04.680
me come on and do my thing. I mean, I could have

03:39:04.680 --> 03:39:06.379
been anywhere. I could have been in Dallas. I

03:39:06.379 --> 03:39:08.899
could have been in Houston. I could have been

03:39:08.899 --> 03:39:11.940
in Galveston. But I chose to be on the Joe Rogan

03:39:11.940 --> 03:39:14.299
Show, man. It's an honor. I said that at the

03:39:14.299 --> 03:39:17.079
beginning, and I really meant it. I think you're

03:39:17.079 --> 03:39:19.879
an amazing cultural figure, and you're a cool

03:39:19.879 --> 03:39:22.819
motherfucker, and you're a shining light and

03:39:22.819 --> 03:39:26.479
a beacon of love and of friendship and of art.

03:39:26.719 --> 03:39:31.520
You move things in the right way. And I appreciate

03:39:31.520 --> 03:39:33.520
you very, very much. And I've always appreciated

03:39:33.520 --> 03:39:36.600
you. Out from the beginning of your career, when

03:39:36.600 --> 03:39:39.219
I had no idea there would ever come a time where

03:39:39.219 --> 03:39:41.159
I'd ever be able to sit across the fucking table

03:39:41.159 --> 03:39:44.799
with you for six fucking... How long was it?

03:39:44.899 --> 03:39:48.620
Three hours? Four. Four hours. Four hours. Four

03:39:48.620 --> 03:39:50.780
hours and some change. Four hours and 20 minutes.

03:39:50.799 --> 03:39:53.239
We're going to say it's been 420, yo. Big Snoop

03:39:53.239 --> 03:39:55.180
Dogg, Joe Rogan. We've been rocking and rolling

03:39:55.180 --> 03:39:57.739
and rolling and rocking. Pay attention, you motherfucker,

03:39:57.840 --> 03:40:01.770
you. Hello! I'm so high, I'm in a time warp.

03:40:02.370 --> 03:40:08.649
Believe it. My point is, you know, I'm sure when

03:40:08.649 --> 03:40:10.430
you were telling me how you met James Brown.

03:40:10.629 --> 03:40:14.270
Yeah. For me, that's what it is to meet you.

03:40:14.430 --> 03:40:18.329
Yeah. Yeah. That was special. It's wild. We sat

03:40:18.329 --> 03:40:20.700
at a park bench, too. That's incredible. So our

03:40:20.700 --> 03:40:22.280
knees was touching and shit, you know what I'm

03:40:22.280 --> 03:40:24.840
saying? What park? No, I had one inside of my

03:40:24.840 --> 03:40:27.639
studio. Oh, you do? Yeah, it was a green, one

03:40:27.639 --> 03:40:28.780
of them green picnics. I thought you had your

03:40:28.780 --> 03:40:31.540
own park or something. A green picnic park bench,

03:40:31.680 --> 03:40:33.000
you know what I'm saying? Nice, yeah. And our

03:40:33.000 --> 03:40:35.020
knees was touching. We were sitting that close

03:40:35.020 --> 03:40:36.700
to where I could feel his knees on mine. I didn't

03:40:36.700 --> 03:40:37.899
even want to move them, motherfuckers. I was

03:40:37.899 --> 03:40:39.420
like, nigga, James Brown's knees is on mine.

03:40:39.459 --> 03:40:41.120
I may be able to do the splits and shit after

03:40:41.120 --> 03:40:47.340
this. Get up. Get on up. Get up. Hey, like a

03:40:47.340 --> 03:40:52.299
sex machine. I was at a red light one time, and

03:40:52.299 --> 03:40:56.120
I had a big playback playing in my rental car

03:40:56.120 --> 03:41:00.700
in Houston, Texas. And this girl pulls up beside

03:41:00.700 --> 03:41:03.079
me, and it was like, you know, right when it

03:41:03.079 --> 03:41:07.299
was like, ow! And she's like, that's the shit!

03:41:07.540 --> 03:41:10.500
And she just drove off, and I never forgot that.

03:41:10.719 --> 03:41:12.139
This is going to be the last story I'm going

03:41:12.139 --> 03:41:14.100
to give you, and it's about the big payback,

03:41:14.200 --> 03:41:15.799
because I don't know if you know. I don't know

03:41:15.799 --> 03:41:18.180
if you know this. Can we play some of that in

03:41:18.180 --> 03:41:20.159
the background? I don't know if you know about

03:41:20.159 --> 03:41:23.620
this. Okay. Let me get some background. There

03:41:23.620 --> 03:41:29.219
was a movie called Black Caesar that James Brown

03:41:29.219 --> 03:41:32.079
did the soundtrack where Pay the Cost to Be the

03:41:32.079 --> 03:41:35.680
Boss was on there. So when they got to part two

03:41:35.680 --> 03:41:37.719
of the movie, it was called Hell Up in Harlem.

03:41:38.559 --> 03:41:42.299
For part one, James made long versions of songs,

03:41:42.459 --> 03:41:45.040
and they had no problem with it. When they got

03:41:45.040 --> 03:41:48.100
to part two, James gave them the big payback

03:41:48.100 --> 03:41:51.500
and they told him, can you cut this down to like

03:41:51.500 --> 03:41:55.719
two minutes because it's too long. And James

03:41:55.719 --> 03:41:57.899
said, I'm not cutting down nothing. I wrote this

03:41:57.899 --> 03:42:00.399
for the movie and it should be this way. So they

03:42:00.399 --> 03:42:01.959
said, you know what, if you don't cut it down,

03:42:02.040 --> 03:42:05.219
we can't use it. So instead of them using...

03:42:05.659 --> 03:42:08.180
The Big Payback, James Brown took The Big Payback

03:42:08.180 --> 03:42:10.920
and made that his next album. So that was originally

03:42:10.920 --> 03:42:13.840
for Hell Up in Harlem, a Fred Williamson movie.

03:42:13.959 --> 03:42:15.579
That's what he wrote this song for. If you listen

03:42:15.579 --> 03:42:17.940
to the lyrics, it's about the movie, The Big

03:42:17.940 --> 03:42:22.059
Payback. Wow. Yeah, look at that movie. Go look

03:42:22.059 --> 03:42:24.379
at Black Caesar. This is part two. Can you imagine

03:42:24.379 --> 03:42:27.379
being in a situation where you're able to do

03:42:27.379 --> 03:42:31.639
business with James Brown and you fuck it up?

03:42:31.860 --> 03:42:35.700
Thank you. Thank you. You should have been like,

03:42:35.739 --> 03:42:39.659
listen, whatever you want to do, man. Give me

03:42:39.659 --> 03:42:41.159
a hug, bro. I'm just so happy to be around you.

03:42:41.159 --> 03:42:44.040
Can you cut the song off right here? No. If I

03:42:44.040 --> 03:42:46.840
was working with James Brown, I would go, my

03:42:46.840 --> 03:42:49.200
friend, give me a hug. Whatever you want to do.

03:42:49.399 --> 03:42:51.559
I want you to be happy. Tell me what makes you

03:42:51.559 --> 03:42:54.260
happy. Let's do this shit. Let's do this shit.

03:42:54.459 --> 03:42:57.059
I'd hold his hand. I would hug him. I'd go, whatever

03:42:57.059 --> 03:42:59.930
you want to do. I don't want extra money from

03:42:59.930 --> 03:43:02.069
you. You're James fucking Brown. You're one of

03:43:02.069 --> 03:43:05.329
a kind. Just go ahead. Go ahead. It was better

03:43:05.329 --> 03:43:08.350
for James. It's better for culture. It's better

03:43:08.350 --> 03:43:10.350
for everybody. But see, that's the hidden myth

03:43:10.350 --> 03:43:12.250
to that song and the story to it. So now everybody

03:43:12.250 --> 03:43:14.770
know what it is and where it came from. You don't

03:43:14.770 --> 03:43:17.809
get that guy who went on stage in Zaire. You

03:43:17.809 --> 03:43:20.250
don't get that without some struggle. No. It

03:43:20.250 --> 03:43:23.790
doesn't happen. No. No. It's not possible. That's

03:43:23.790 --> 03:43:26.069
part of his struggle. It's not possible. You

03:43:26.069 --> 03:43:29.469
wouldn't be that motivated. Yeah, say that. I

03:43:29.469 --> 03:43:31.649
told you he had 16 splits for George Clinton

03:43:31.649 --> 03:43:37.649
when he asked him. That's insane. But you just

03:43:37.649 --> 03:43:42.049
don't know if you just, it's hard to go back

03:43:42.049 --> 03:43:44.629
in time and put it in the perspective of the

03:43:44.629 --> 03:43:49.829
time when he released this album. This is like

03:43:49.829 --> 03:43:52.709
a cultural shifting moment. And it would have

03:43:52.709 --> 03:43:55.670
been bigger if it was on the movie. It would

03:43:55.670 --> 03:43:58.069
have been bigger for the movie, not for him.

03:43:58.190 --> 03:44:00.430
Not for him. For the movie. The movie, nobody

03:44:00.430 --> 03:44:02.690
knows about. Everybody knows this song. Dustin

03:44:02.690 --> 03:44:05.690
Poirier, when he comes out to fight, he comes

03:44:05.690 --> 03:44:08.930
out to this song. When he beat Conor McGregor,

03:44:08.930 --> 03:44:12.129
he came out to this song. That's all I'm saying.

03:44:12.469 --> 03:44:15.690
Didn't he? I hope I'm right. This song just got

03:44:15.690 --> 03:44:17.770
so much significance to when you do lose and

03:44:17.770 --> 03:44:21.010
you're coming back. Sure, you sort of get back

03:44:21.010 --> 03:44:23.110
or pay back. Make sure that I'm correct about

03:44:23.110 --> 03:44:27.069
that. I feel vulnerable. I feel like my facts

03:44:27.069 --> 03:44:30.209
are slippery. The boss? The boss. Yeah, that's

03:44:30.209 --> 03:44:33.149
it, right? That's it. Paid the cost to be the

03:44:33.149 --> 03:44:35.370
boss? Oh, that's not paid back. That's not black

03:44:35.370 --> 03:44:38.049
season. Oh, that's right. That's the first movie.

03:44:38.149 --> 03:44:40.190
I knew he came out to James Brown. Damn, I fucked

03:44:40.190 --> 03:44:42.950
it up. Glad I corrected it. I felt vulnerable

03:44:42.950 --> 03:44:48.250
there. Paid the cost. Snoop, this has been an

03:44:48.250 --> 03:44:51.530
honor and a privilege, and let's do more of these.

03:44:51.690 --> 03:44:55.670
And tell everybody, your new album is out on

03:44:55.670 --> 03:44:59.969
the 19th? November 19th, Algorithm, Snoop Dogg,

03:44:59.969 --> 03:45:01.629
and there's so much talent on the album. There's

03:45:01.629 --> 03:45:04.040
so many different features on there. It's a Def

03:45:04.040 --> 03:45:05.879
Jam situation. Y 'all make sure y 'all go get

03:45:05.879 --> 03:45:07.540
it. I got a couple of videos and singles out

03:45:07.540 --> 03:45:10.479
right now. Big Subwoofer, which is Mount Westmore.

03:45:10.879 --> 03:45:13.920
Murder Music featuring Jadakiss, Bitty the Butcher,

03:45:13.940 --> 03:45:16.680
and Busta Rhymes. And then we just finna hit

03:45:16.680 --> 03:45:18.719
you upside the head all year long. So stay tuned,

03:45:18.799 --> 03:45:22.000
stay locked and loaded. The date comes out. We'll

03:45:22.000 --> 03:45:24.540
definitely let everybody know on Instagram and

03:45:24.540 --> 03:45:26.860
all that. That's it right there. Snoop Dogg.

03:45:28.000 --> 03:45:32.250
Algorithm. How fun was this? It's the Joe Rogan

03:45:32.250 --> 03:45:34.229
experience, man, and I left you some... That

03:45:34.229 --> 03:45:36.850
was fun. I left you some... Artifacts? Yeah,

03:45:36.870 --> 03:45:38.829
man, you know. I'm going to take some photos.

03:45:38.950 --> 03:45:40.110
Like, motherfuckers don't know. I should impress

03:45:40.110 --> 03:45:41.409
them. They don't know what that... Man, I got

03:45:41.409 --> 03:45:42.909
to get a photo of that right now, man. I should

03:45:42.909 --> 03:45:44.870
put that in resin. You should. Like, if you just,

03:45:44.889 --> 03:45:47.350
like, take that and seal it in, like, clear plastic

03:45:47.350 --> 03:45:50.030
where you don't move it. Can they do that? Yeah,

03:45:50.309 --> 03:45:52.170
we can do that. Okay, we're going to do that.

03:45:52.549 --> 03:45:55.969
We're going to freeze that pad and all those

03:45:55.969 --> 03:46:00.559
poor, lost tobacco leaves. Like, one day someone's

03:46:00.559 --> 03:46:04.659
going to smoke me. Nope. Nope. I'm just going

03:46:04.659 --> 03:46:08.219
to peel you out of your skin and use you for

03:46:08.219 --> 03:46:13.420
blunts on a podcast. That went from seed to nothingness.

03:46:13.760 --> 03:46:17.159
There's no reason for that. It's waste. Everybody

03:46:17.159 --> 03:46:19.700
wants to talk about all kinds of waste. Plastic

03:46:19.700 --> 03:46:25.180
bottles. What's that? Flavor for what? But the

03:46:25.180 --> 03:46:30.260
inside of it? That doesn't flavor it. Soaking

03:46:30.260 --> 03:46:33.520
in there. He's a fucking tobacco supporter. I

03:46:33.520 --> 03:46:38.979
have to check Jamie's sponsors. Yeah, see. When

03:46:38.979 --> 03:46:41.040
you post shit like this on Instagram, I just

03:46:41.040 --> 03:46:43.500
let that shit just live. Would you post a picture

03:46:43.500 --> 03:46:46.879
of that? Yeah, if it went through. Let me see

03:46:46.879 --> 03:46:49.639
if it went through. And then I'll put your name

03:46:49.639 --> 03:46:52.200
on there. Don't you feel uncomfortable, Jamie?

03:46:52.780 --> 03:46:55.459
Like you're in the room with Snoop? You feel

03:46:55.459 --> 03:47:01.409
odd? I know. Right at home. No internet connection.

03:47:01.549 --> 03:47:05.270
What's going on? It's got to have a Wi -Fi. What's

03:47:05.270 --> 03:47:08.469
the Wi -Fi in here? Well, I would tell you, but

03:47:08.469 --> 03:47:13.069
we are still doing the podcast. So how about

03:47:13.069 --> 03:47:16.549
I try no Wi -Fi? Let's close this out. You want

03:47:16.549 --> 03:47:19.049
to close it? Yeah. What are we at now? Four hours?

03:47:21.770 --> 03:47:25.409
Thank you, everybody, for tuning in. Thank you,

03:47:25.430 --> 03:47:31.649
Snoop Dogg. Thank you, Jamie. Thank you, listeners

03:47:31.649 --> 03:47:36.750
and viewers. See? That's it. Posted. Posted on

03:47:36.750 --> 03:47:39.670
Instagram live and in the moment. So when you

03:47:39.670 --> 03:47:41.829
listen to the podcast, go to Snoop's Instagram

03:47:41.829 --> 03:47:44.389
and you can say, the moment that he posted that,

03:47:44.469 --> 03:47:47.069
that's the moment when it ended. So it'll be

03:47:47.069 --> 03:47:49.989
up later tomorrow. Yeah. You always say you got

03:47:49.989 --> 03:47:54.270
an intro and you got an endo. Yes. And that was

03:47:54.270 --> 03:48:00.829
the endo. I like that. Goodbye everybody. See

03:48:00.829 --> 03:48:02.770
you. Bye bye. Bye bitch.