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Experience. Train by day. Joe Rogan Podcast by
night. All day. First of all, it's an honor and
a privilege. An honor and a privilege. No, it's
my privilege and it's my honor. This is my motivation,
Joe. Very few human beings that have managed
to do as many things as you have. And to do it
as... You've been relevant for fucking decades,
man. It's incredible. Man, I work hard and I
hardly work. I know you do. You do. But you know
what the thing, the key to it all is, Joe? What?
Everything that I do and everything that I've
done has been based around fun. So the fun element
has always been the key factor. It has never
been money motivated. It's always been, man,
this is fun to do and I love doing it. And then
it was so fun that it ended up making me funds.
Well, you've managed to make a career out of
being yourself. Right. That's where it's amazing.
Yeah, but that's the easiest job everybody got,
just to wake up in the morning and do you. Yeah,
but so many people have a hard time doing that
publicly. Right, because it's so easy to want
to be like something that's out there that feels
like it's easier to do and it's more impressionable
and it's an easy follow. But when you wake up
and do yourself, that's just the organic thing
that you were built with that you know how to
do in your sleep. It's true, but it's hard for
people to be themselves publicly. They try so
hard, and they think about their image. They
try so hard to cultivate something. I know because
I've been around those kind of people that got
to hide, and then all of a sudden, as soon as
the lights go off, then they want to come hang
out with you and let their hair down, and they
start explaining to you how they can't. They
can't. Man, I wish I could do what you do. You
can do whatever you want to do. You're just worried
about what people are going to say as opposed
to the way you feel. I don't worry about what
people say. As long as I feel good, I'm going
to keep doing it. That's the way to do it. I
think by your example, many more people can learn.
They can figure out a way to live their life
authentically. If it feels good to you, it must
be good for you. What about heroin? I ain't trying
that shit. We are never trying heroin, heroin,
heroin. You got your own mic. Joe, I can't prepare.
Quit playing with me, man. Don't fucking play
with me, Joe. I'm prepared today. Give me a light.
I can use your ashtray? Sure, of course. Okay,
perfect. Thank you. We're family. Yeah. Get in
there. Will do. I'm going to start off light.
I'm going to start off with some. Flyweight division.
What is this stuff? This is just some flyweight
to get me going, you know, like watching the
women fight. And so you roll blunts with, like,
do you take a part of Swisher Sweets? What do
you do? I used to be a Philly blunt guy. Then
I used to be a Swisher Sweet guy. And now I'm
a backwood guy. Backwoods? Yeah, backwoods. One
of the little homies turned me out. You know,
this is a young man's thing, but I hang with
all of the youngsters, and, you know, they be
pushing it on me. Hunk, hit the backwood, hit
the backwood. I'm like, I ain't smoking that.
And when I finally hit it, I just liked the way
it made me feel. It was like it was a relaxer
rather than me, you know, going to sleep or wanting
to be too excited. It was like the perfect match
for me, especially at the Asia, man. And so you
just buy the cigar, take it apart, remove the
tobacco. You do it all yourself. You just watched
me put one together in 37 seconds. That's your
thing. And you do know that. I do. I do. I learned
how to smoke blunts from Charlie Murphy. That's
when I first started smoking blunts. Charlie
Murphy was a bad motherfucker. He was a bad motherfucker.
When I started smoking blunts with him, I was
like, okay, now I get it. I smoked a blunt with
him in 1993 on the set of my movie Murder Was
the Case. Wow. That's the first movie I ever
was in, and he was the bad guy. Really? Yeah,
it was the 18 -minute movies I did on Death Row
Records. I went with my first album, Doggy Style.
It was called Murder Was the Case, and Charlie
was the bad guy. The shit was hard as fuck. And
I loved him so much for just giving me off the
intro. This is my first time acting and he was
in my movie. And we, you know what I'm saying,
hung out, smoked and chilled and became friends.
And I just love the fact that he wasn't like
trying to big homie me. Right. He was looking
at me like, you know, you're a star now, you're
going to be a star later. And I'm going to treat
you like, I'm going to treat you now, I'm going
to treat you the same way later. And we always
maintained that great relationship. Charlie was
an authentic human being. He really was. He was
a... He's a rare guy who started doing stand
-up after he was already famous. That's a hard
thing to do. Look, I got a story. Me and Charlie
Murphy had a TV show for MTV. It was like a story
about me as a kid, and it was like cartoon. So
we was on that. We was on the call with the MTV
people. This is how he was talking to them. You
motherfucking crackers can't tell me how to write
a motherfucking show. Fuck y 'all. I'm the motherfucking
writer of the show. And if you motherfuckers
don't like, matter of fact, I'm off the phone.
And nigga just jumped off the call. It was my
first time being on a meeting like that to hear
somebody just be fucking real. That shit was
encouraging. You know what I'm saying? It made
me want to do that, like to be real in meetings
and not hold my tongue and sit back and let my
people do all of the talking. When he drove that
meeting and drove that conversation, that showed
me that the best shit I can do is be me at all
times. Well, Charlie was a man. At all times.
He was a man. Like, he was a martial artist.
He was a legit martial artist. Like, I had some
great conversations with him about martial arts.
And there was one time that it was me and Maury
Smith, who was the former UFC heavyweight champion,
and a dude named Ivan Salivary, who was another
top -flight UFC guy. And Charlie Murphy was holding
court. And he was telling people about how they
got to respect the Chicago Ridge Hand, the specific
type of ridge hand that Charlie was really good
at. And he was telling them, and it's a legit
technique, but it was just funny as shit seeing
Charlie Murphy standing there holding court.
There's the picture of it right there. That's
Charlie. And the guy right to his right shoulder,
that's Maurice Smith, who's a former UFC heavyweight
champion. And the guy across that got his hand
in front of his mouth, that's Ivan Salivary.
And he stuck, he believed in the story. The way
he got his hand in his mouth, that's like a teacher
teaching right now. Well, he just, he was a powerful
figure, you know. When I found out that he was
sick and that he died, it was, it didn't make
sense. Like, Charlie Murphy is... But he kept
working through his sickness. Yeah. That's what
I commend him for, that he was still showing
up to sets, being seen, being heard, leaving
his legacy so that way we could continue to see
him while he was gone. Yeah. It's just... It's
sad when we lose people like that, man. Yeah,
especially a guy like that. You just don't think
he's going to get sick. Like, how did he get
sick? Well, you know, it's all God's plan, though,
Joe. You know, we got to... Be thankful for the
time that we had with him. And we both got personal
stories and personal relationships with him.
So that's all we can be thankful for is the time
that we get with people while they're here. That's
true. I mean, we only have a certain amount of
time, no matter what. It seems like you got forever
because you're in it right now. It doesn't seem
like it's going to end. But it ends for all of
us. And it's hard to keep that in perspective.
But if you could, you'd be better off. Yeah.
That's what life is all about. Living each day.
You only die once, so you should live every day.
Exactly. Oh, shit. You got to get that doggy
-style jacket, too. Oh, my goodness. Come on,
Joe, man. Come on, man. This is Christmas for
me. I got to have you fall out to one of them
big UFC fights in that right there. Dana White's
going to love it when you wait. 100%. Dana's
going to say, where's mine? December 11th. Say
that. That's the next one. Now, now. I'm showing
up December 11th for the UFC in Vegas wearing
that. Yes, you do know that. Wearing that. Well,
you know we only smoke fire, right? Yes. Can
I play this song called No Bummer We? Yes. Because
we only smoke fire. That's off that new album,
Algorithm. It'll be in stores November 19th.
Should we get a copy of it to Jamie so Jamie
could put it through when we air drop it could
air drop it to me right now Yep, what a wonderful
world we live in I love it should show up if
you just go to airdrop Somebody got to help me.
I ain't that smart Have you ever airdropped anything?
Yeah all the time, but it always get did for
me like I'm gonna Huh? Fuck that me. I'm looking
in the air for the shit to drop You know how
to do it Joe I don't know how to do it off a
laptop. See, with your smart ass. See, you talking
all that shit and you don't even know how to
fucking do it. I can do it off my phone. This
is a song that's lit up. Me too, off the phone
is easy. Yeah, I've never done it off a laptop.
There you go. This man is smart. Who is this
guy? Jamie's a professional. You motherfucker,
you? Yeah, he's on the ball. Go ahead, Jamie.
He's the GOAT. Jamie's the GOAT podcast producer.
I'm going to call you Jaime. Yeah. You got it
now, Jaime? I think so. You can play it whenever
you want to. We can chop up some game and get
back to it. You know what I'm saying? Cause I'm,
I'm all of the above, I'm afraid of nature, I'm
still P .P .O .W. Ain't a lot of niggas got what
Snoopy got. Ain't a lot of niggas walk up in
the spot smoking on that lemon drop. Four or
five bitches and they body hot. Music make they
body rock. Snoopy on that player shit. You or
not. Me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me,
me, me. California drippin' in my low ride Hit
the switch, bounce, then it go higher Def Jam,
don't give a damn Rollin' backwoods by the drain
We only smoke fire We only smoke fire We only
smoke fire, Joe And don't give me no bam or wee
And don't give me no bam or wee You know why?
Tell them why Cause I'm That was amazing. That
might have been my favorite moment ever on the
podcast. That was amazing. We only smoke fire,
Joe. Oh, my God. Yes, sir. Thank God for you.
You know what people don't know is that, like,
when they see me doing all of this, like, calling
fights and calling sports and doing all of this,
I guess it's called analism. Is that what it's
called? Yeah, analyst. Yeah, when I'm an analyst.
They don't know that I got my start with the
show called The Contender, which was a Dana White
show, which was a show where the fighters would
come and they would fight to get a contract,
so to speak. And one of the fighters that was
on that show was Sugar Shane. And I see he came
out and became a real good fighter. And I just
think about how when I was on there with Uriah
Faber and how we was on there just getting my
style together as far as how to talk when I'm
watching a sporting event. They don't understand
that I got my beginnings from the UFC world,
man. Y 'all blessed me. It was Sugar Shane. Sugar
Sean, rather. Sugar Sean O'Malley. Bad boy. He's
fucking phenomenal. When you were doing that,
didn't that come out of you doing commentary
just for YouTube videos and shit? Yeah, but the
way Dana, he produced it. You know what I'm saying?
I was just doing freelance shit, and he was like,
nah, hold on. Come to Vegas, we're going to put
you in the air, you and him. And then I was in
there smoking like a motherfucker the first couple
of fights. They was like, hold on. You can't
be on the same. We got to build you a room off
for the set because of the fucking rules and
regulations to fight. And the smoke got to be
in this section over here. So I was announcing
we had our little booth where we had to smoke
off for the set and watch the fight. That's hilarious.
From like the booth. Because you could legitimately
give someone a contact high. Oh, yeah, that's
what they were saying. Yeah, for sure. But I
thought the fighters wouldn't like that. The
fighters probably, some of them would. Some of
them would. But, yeah. When you were doing it
with Uriah Faber, that was when Sean O'Malley
made his big, that was one of his first big knockouts
that people got a chance to see him, his style.
It was so dope. You calling his fight, it was
part of the fun of him sort of emerging into
the UFC. That gave me the bug to be like, fuck
that. You can do this shit, dog. Go ahead. No,
anybody could do it. You know, if you ever watch
fights with a cool friend, it's fun. Always.
Or watch it with your uncle. Yeah, like, your
kind of commentary is what most people want to
hear. They want to hear people talk shit and
have fun. Right. You know? Right. They should
have, like, a regular commentary and, like, a
shit -talking commentary. Yeah, like they got
the Spanish subtitles. Yeah. Like, we're going
with the Snoop Dogg version. Yeah, because it's
entertaining for people. It's like you're watching
it with friends. I'm trying to get some Super
Bowl action now. Yeah? Yeah, because we're performing
at the Super Bowl, but I want some of that in
the box. You want to do commentary for the Super
Bowl? I need a little bit of that. Just a little
bit. Just maybe a half a quarter, something.
Listen, you sparred. I saw you spar with Daniel
Serafian. Yeah, now that motherfucker right there
was trying to kill me. That didn't scare me.
Hold on, nigga, I'm just in this. You're going
to flash back and think I'm some fighter you
was fighting against. But I was telling everybody,
if Snoop is sparring with that guy, I go, that
is a legit guy. He's a legit UFC fighter. Seraphian's
a beast. Man, let me tell you the shit he used
to do with me, though, Joe. He used to make me
get on my back and try to get him off of me.
The fuck is this? And then he got on his back
and I couldn't get a fucking punch in. I'm like,
man, this is no fair, man. But it was teaching
me both sides of fighting. On your back, on top,
stand up, all of the above. But the fact that
you're training with these really legit guys,
that to me was very interesting. Because there's
not a lot of people that are - That get in there
with them? Yeah. There's not a lot of people
that are prominent show business people that
want to learn. how to fight with a guy like Daniel
Serafian, and you're taking that chance to spar
with him, and you're filming it. That's pretty
wild, man. Hey, man, let me tell you. Wiz Khalifa
put all that shit in me. Wiz Khalifa used to
weigh about 140 pounds, and I used to weigh about
160. And we used to be on tour taking our shirts
off and shit, and I used to have way more muscles
than him. We used to be doing our shit. All of
a sudden, this motherfucker started working out,
and then we went on tour. He was like, hey, man,
let's run to the crowd. He's doing all kinds
of athletic shit. Then he took his shirt off.
I'm like, fuck. I looked at him and was like,
damn, he bigger than me now. What the fuck is
going on? So I asked him. He's like, man, I'm
working out. I'm breakable. I'm in the gym every
day. So me, wanting to be just like he is, can
I go in there? Got me a membership. Started working
out, just training, lifting. And then the fighting
element came to me. I was like, I want to learn
how to fight better because I could fight, but
I want to learn how to fight to protect myself,
not to just beat somebody up, but to be defensive
in case somebody needs some help. Did you ever
do any martial arts before that? Only watch movies.
Really? Yeah. You know, as a kid, you watch movies
and you practice those moves and you try shit.
We was those kind of kids. We would jump off
of roofs and jump off of mattresses and all kind
of shit. We didn't give a fuck. a lot of kids
must have learned from movies, right? That's
all we had. Just imitate people doing kicks in
Bruce Lee movies and Chuck Norris movies. Joe,
let me tell you this. When we watch a movie and
we leave to walk in, as soon as the movie go
off, a karate movie, we looking for somebody
to fight and do karate moves on. Not regular
fighting, but motherfuckers standing out there
like this doing all this karate shit. When do
you think that happened? I think it was like
probably Bruce Lee introduced that. Bruce Lee,
he was the fucking king. Yeah. All his movies,
we definitely wanted to imitate him. And then
the fucking Shaw Brothers, they had some good
shit too. And then there was a couple of classics
like Five Fingers of Death, Master of the Flying
Guillotine. There's certain movies that just
really hit in the hood that we really liked watching.
It's kind of crazy that one guy and one particular
style of movie created like a whole way that
people wanted to fight. They wanted to start
kicking people. Before that, it was like fisticuffs.
Now you got to watch his legs now. Yeah, they're
like one group of people figured it out. And
Bruce Lee made sound effects a part of fighting
as well. Yeah. Because you would never not do
his move without saying, what's up? It's so attractive
to people to fight that way. They like kick each
other and shit. I remember I did that shit. I
thought somebody was doing all Bruce Lee sounds
and was getting my ass kicked. I was trying to
figure out why the fuck this shit ain't working
for me. That guy influenced a whole culture.
I got a big -ass life -size statue of Bruce Lee
at the front door of my building when he walked
in with his shirt off with the three scratches
on his chest like this in rare form. Oh, yeah.
I'm a diehard. Yeah, he's absolutely the original
reason why I got interested in martial arts.
I lived in an apartment building in Newark, New
Jersey. And one of the kids that lived downstairs
from me, they had gotten to Bruce Lee. And they
were telling me about Bruce Lee. And then we
watched a Bruce Lee movie over his house. And
I was like, holy shit. Wasn't that shit like
when you, Star Wars, no disrespect. When Bruce
Lee hit the motherfucking silver screen, fuck
everything. Yeah. Right? As a kid. It was wild.
Didn't he make you feel like you could do it?
Everybody could do it if you could just learn
what he knows. And the way he was calm, the way
he talked. Don't you see a lot of Snoop Dogg
and Bruce Lee and Bruce Lee and Snoop Dogg with
the calmness and the be water? Yes. Just always.
Be water. Yes. Yeah. Yes. I am water. Aquafina.
He made kicking people exciting. I'm telling
you. It's kind of wild. Kicking wasn't cool in
the 70s until Bruce Lee made it official. Then
it was a part of your fight style. Even the sweep
kick, you would put your hands up and then you
would sweep him off his feet. That move was real
famous. A lot of people got caught slipping like
that. You know what's crazy is the stuff he did
in his movies was not the stuff that he would
tell you to do for fighting. Right he wrote a
whole book Jeet Kune Do he wrote this whole book
of Like all of his stuff that he had learned
from all these different styles putting them
all together and trying to figure out what's
the most useful. But he wouldn't have done all
that crazy fancy shit. He would have been kicking
your knees and kicking your legs. But I think
that's why they didn't like him because he was
trying to combine all of the styles and the teachings
that he knew and then he was presenting those
styles to people outside of the martial arts
world. But they should be thanking him because
it would have been just a cult. classic as opposed
to it being internationally loved and respected
now martial arts has grown into a point to where
we got the ufc we got kickboxing we got certain
things that you know people can you know prosper
from it and really get off their talents well
when we first started doing it you you had to
stick to the style that you that you were practicing
like you couldn't leave your style right like
if you were a taekwondo guy and then you wanted
to learn muay thai someone would be upset at
you they'd be like you don't have to go over
there and learn that Like, that's not better
than what we do. Well, when I first watched,
I fell in love with Hoyes Gracie. This motherfucker
used to come out with a robe on and lay down
and kick your ass. I'm trying to figure out how
the fuck he got a... If y 'all don't grab this
motherfucker by his robe and choke his ass out
and pull the bottom of his robe up and take his
little... string around his rope and tie his
ass up with it. I used to just watch him like,
this motherfucker is amazing. Then I met him,
and when I met him, I'm like, damn, he's so calm
and relaxed. I guess when you know you can fuck
a motherfucker up, you just sit back and just
enjoy life. Yeah. I think that robe was a trick
in some ways. It was really smart because by
wearing the kimono, wearing the... jujitsu gi
he he made people grab him always they were grabbing
that and that brought them to him right exactly
and that's in his style you want to be up close
and tight in there so what he would just smother
these guys and they would they would grab onto
it and they would be in his trap and then boom
he would be on top of him like a spider just
because him and shamrock was amazing yeah well
him and everybody was amazing i mean he was the
guy that introduced everybody to the idea that
you could be a smaller person with superior technique
and win a huge no -holds -barred competition
with giant people. So in my book, he's top five
UFC all -time great. Hands fucking down. It's
hard to measure how important he was. He was
so important. He made us who we are. It's hard
to, like, what he did. By showing people that
you could win with technique. Not with being
big, not with being strong, but with knowing
something that the other people don't know. Change
what a martial art was. All of a sudden martial
art became interesting to really intelligent
people. They wanted to figure out how could someone
who's more technical get over and overpower someone
who's much bigger and stronger than them. But
they can, like consistently. And Horace Gracie
showed the whole world that. He's like probably
the most important martial arts figure ever.
Him and Bruce Lee. I would have loved to seen
his father fight. Oh, my God. Because just the
way his old man used to come out there with him
with the sweatsuit on, like, you just knew he
was just a shit. Like, if this my son, I wish
a motherfucker would. Watch out, hoist. Let me
get this motherfucker. Yeah, when he would come
out with his dad. That was so gangster to me.
Those moments I remember about UFC that stained
my brain and was like, this is a brand that's
here forever. When you seen that man come out
there with his father, and then y 'all start
running down the tradition of what his father
meant to Brazilian jiu -jitsu and how they are
the family that you're going to learn about and
know about sooner or later. They're the greatest
family in the history of martial arts, and there's
not even a close second. Okay, hands down. There
it is there. They're the greatest family. There's
no other family that's had an impact like they
have. So was Hoist the best, Gracie? No, his
brother Hickson was. What? Yeah. And everybody
says it. He says it too. His brother Hickson's
a legend. He's been on the podcast a few times.
Just before UFC. This was like during the UFC,
but he was fighting in Japan and just his jiu
-jitsu like was universally Regarded as being
the best by everybody as he hoist big brother.
Yes. Okay. There it is Yes, it makes choices
big and then Horean's his other brother and Horean's
elite that they're all assassins Their sons are
assassins of it every like you can't be a Gracie
son and not be an assassin Which which Gracie
would be in the weight class of? My man used
to wear the white wig. Oh, Khabib? That motherfucker
right there. Any his weight class? Hoyler was
close to his weight class, but Hoyler was a little
smaller. Hoyler was like 145, and he's fighting
at 155. But Hoyler was an elite grappler, too.
Hoyler won multiple world championships. They
were the whole family. Hodger Gracie, Henzo Gracie.
My God, what a family. So Khabib, even if he
had beat one, another one would have been waiting
around the corner waiting on his ass. It would
have been amazing to see Khabib in his prime
versus a guy like Hickson in his prime. Yes.
Just to see them grapple. Be fascinating. So
Khabib's undefeated. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Khabib retired
undefeated. That's fucking crazy. Not just undefeated,
but never really in a close fight. There was
no real close fights. He took on everybody, too.
He didn't run from no fades. He took on everybody.
He had good fights. He had good fights where
people put up struggle, but eventually he gets
them all. He gets them all. So is he top five?
Oh, yeah. Yeah, Khabib is, in my opinion, greatest
lightweight of all time. The other argument is
BJ Penn and his prime. BJ Penn and his prime
was... Fantastic. He was so good. He was fast.
He'd get up on you. Oh, my God. BJ Penn, when
he was like, if you go back and watch peak BJ
Penn, when he was just, he had phenomenal power.
He was ruthlessly aggressive. He had great jujitsu.
Everybody was scared of BJ for a while. Right.
Who did he take it from? He took it from somebody.
Well, he beat Matt Hughes. He wasn't supposed
to. He beat Matt Hughes in his prime. Right,
because Matt was the champ, right? And he strangled
him. He rocked him. Yeah, and he strangled him.
And then he held on to him for a while. Yeah,
they had some wars, man. He was an elite grappler,
too. Just really, really good. And so it wasn't
just his stand -up striking. It was his ground
game. But it was also that he would fight anybody.
He was geister, but he would get in there and
mix it up. He was like a crowd favorite. He lost
to George St. Pierre. George St. Pierre was just
bigger and stronger and better, and he kind of
beat him up. But the difference in size is pretty
evident, and it just wasn't a good matchup for
BJ. But that's just George St. Pierre and his
prime was the best of the best. One thing about
the UFC, that torch is definitely going to get
passed. And when it get passed, it's all about
who can hold on to it and hold it the longest.
There's always somebody coming to get your ass.
Always, always, always. There's some guys that
can hold it off until they can retire. But, you
know, if you just stay in it long enough, eventually
someone coming up is going to get you. That's
in everything, though. Even in the music industry,
it's always been like that. It's a young man's
game. That's why I'm surprised I'm still in it.
Well, again, you're in it because you can authentically
be you and people love you. You're like one of
the most universally loved people. But it's because
of what you put out. That's what you put out
there. You put out love. And people love you
back. Hey, man, put it in the air one time. A
little bud for the love. A little love for the
bud. Oh, I got to say it the right way. You know
how I do it. Yes, sir. Big Snoop Dogg smoking
live on the air. The Joe Rogan Experience. Austin,
Texas, a bust. You bet you. You ain't never had
a guest like that. No. Motherfucking microphone.
It's just together, man. I need some alcohol,
Joe. Can I get drunk on your show? Yeah, for
sure. You got some clear? All that shit over
there is brown like me. I need some clear. What
do you need? What kind do you like? I like vodka.
Do we have vodka, Jamie? What? No, what you got
here? I'll do what you got. Fuck it. Let's break
the rules. Mostly, we have whiskey. Oh, shit.
Yeah, we have that wild Rysilla stuff, too, which
is dangerous. What's that? That Rysilla is clear.
It is. Oh, that stuff is ruthless, though. Yeah,
I wouldn't want to give that to you. Oh, thanks.
Appreciate you. It's ruthless. Thank you. It's
like turpentine. You don't like that kind of
shit, right? Hell no. You like vodka, right?
I'm on some cool shit, some player shit. You
know what I'm talking about? He said some shit
over there that sounded like it was going to
turn me inside out. What's that? Who was on that
bottle? Let me get some honey shine. What is
that? I don't even know what that is. Bring that
over here. It look like my face on there. What
the fuck is making a bottle of Snoop Dogg? I
don't know what this is. Maybe some moonshine.
Some moonshine with a dab of honey, huh? I don't
know. You want to try it? Yeah, let me get lit.
Let me get lit with you one time, Joe. There
we go. I don't know what this is. Me neither,
but here's a toast to the boogie, baby. Salute,
sir. Blessings. That shit strong as a motherfucker.
I think it's moonshine. Shit, this must be some
moonshine out the motherfucking Duke boys truck.
Enos must have made this shit. Shit. Ah, I got
you. Shit. Moonshine is a thing now. You can
buy moonshine. It's just hilarious. You can buy
it for real. I mean, they used to have to bootleg
it, right? That's how the Kennedys made their
money. For real? Oh, you mean the daddy name,
Pops. Yeah. Pop Kennedy. The Pops. A lot of people
did. You know, that's where NASCAR came from.
Mm -hmm. It was created off of that. Yeah, what
do we got here? We got vodka. Both vodka. Both
vodka. Well, this shit you just gave me in here
is a motherfucker. That shit's sitting in my
chest like a heater. I love it. You want some
more of that? I'm going to do them both. All
right. And people know that's watching this shit
that I don't drink, but I'm with Joe Rogan, so
fuck y 'all. Shit. Felt like I poured a whole
bottle of alcohol in my chest. What do you usually
drink? I drink indigo gin. I drink 19 Crimes
wine or rosé. You know, I'm a player, Joe. Drink
that shit that's cool. This kind of shit when
I'm with the boys and we want to act a fool.
But normally I'm on some player relax shit, making
sure I'm in control. Is that brown? Brown and
brown don't mix. Are you involved with that 19
Crimes Wine? Is that something you do? Yeah,
you know the plug was plugged. You already know
that. Well, no, it's good shit, man. I buy it.
You do? Yes. You won't ever have to buy it again.
Well, thank you. Yeah, we're going to ship a
gang of that shit up here. Thank you. It's very
good. I bought it before. You know me, Joe. I'm
just trying to diversify my portfolio, you know.
I like it. Because I felt like, you know, early
in my career, when I was making songs like Gin
and Juice, I felt like Tangeray and Seagrams
really made millions and millions of dollars
off of me without me knowing what I was doing
as far as promoting their brands. So once I learned
the system and figured out that, wow, you could
become a marketing and a brand ambassador, and
you could also get some equity or either just
create your own alcohol brand. Yeah, people blew
up brands for nothing. they blew up brands and
just we didn't know no better whether it was
gucci whether it was nike converse whatever it
was we did it out of the love of the brand and
then the brand didn't understand that we were
promoting for them so they should have just naturally
said hey here's some money be a brand ambassador
when we would come to some of these brands they
would say we don't need you you're promoting
us anyway yeah yeah it's a weird thing to try
to realize when it comes to business it's called
it's called show business joe so initially when
you get in the industry you're about to show
and the business takes a while to catch up but
somebody like me that you know i had to learn
the hard way i had to learn the show and the
business fast that's why it's called show business
when you learn them both and you'll be where
you're supposed to be when when did everybody
figure that out with brands and stuff though
when did people figure out that it's better to
just make your own brand Probably when Master
P had No Limit Records, because No Limit Records
was the perfect example of branding your own
artists, branding your own merchandise, your
own movies, your own shoes, your own tater chips.
Master P branded any and everything that he wanted
to, and it was all up under him. And he showed
people how to be independent and create your
own and not have to always go to the system and,
you know, play on the field, but be an actual
owner and a real, you know, decision maker. The
business of show business. It's very hard sometimes
for artists to think about shit like that. You
just want to be free and have fun and talk shit.
But then you realize, oh, you're helping another
organization for no reason. But see, that's not
what they teach. They don't teach financial literacy.
They don't teach us anything that could help
us on the business. you know scale and that's
from athletics to entertainment you know take
for example these college football players and
basketball players they don't teach them how
to handle millions of dollars so when they do
get that first contract and they blow their money
or do something crazy with their money it's not
their fault it's the system's fault for not teaching
because if you're going to if you're going to
prepare someone to go to a professional field
The first thing you do is teach them financial
literacy and how to maintain that, not just the
ability to be skillful and make money for the
brand, but be a part of being in the business
so you can make money for yourself because you're
branding the brand. Do they have any classes
on how to be a professional football player and
manage your money? Do they have any classes?
I mean, if you would think that if they have
football at a university and it's big for the
university. Do they have classes? They probably
do. Do they teach the kids what to do if you
start making money? I think they do, Joe, but
I just don't think the awareness of it is actually
being promoted or pushed like it should be. They
push you more of the get on the field, be a star,
get to the NFL, get to the NBA, as opposed to
get in the class, learn what's going to happen
with this money. So in case you do become successful,
even after your career is over, you should have
a business plan for life after ball. Yeah. it's
hard for people to think about that, like when
it's going to end. Imagine when these, for example,
try a UFC fighter, someone who wins on the contender,
and he gets a contract for three fights, then
he gets another three fights, and now he's got
$20, $30 million, and then two years later, he
has zero. Yeah. Because he didn't know how to
position it. Like, look at how Conor McGregor
took his UFC shit and started branding and making
money here and there and there and there and
there and there. Like, but he's probably like
one of the only ones. You don't see a lot. You
know what I'm saying? It's like Tom Brady. He's
a one -on -one. There's only one -on -ones. LeBron
James, he's a one -on -one. But that creates
an atmosphere to where some can follow. You probably
won't be as high as him, but you'll be in the
same realm. Yeah. Those rare humans like that.
Those one -of -ones. Everybody's like, why? When
you see a Conor McGregor, how the fuck is he
so much more interesting? What's going on? What's
going on when someone just blows up and you just
want to see them fight more than anything? Do
you know who Hamzat Shamayev is? Yes. That's
another guy that everybody's like, I can't wait
to see that motherfucker fight again. Can he
fight again tomorrow? I want to see him fight
too, Joe. Can he fight tomorrow? I fucking want
to see him too. I don't know why, but I do want
to see him fight. He's got it. Whatever that
thing is, he's got it. It's that interest to
want to learn more about him because he's entertainment.
Yeah. When he's like, I killed them all. After
his last fight, he's pregnant to me. I killed
them all. I'm like, whoa. I'm like, this motherfucker
sound like he's in Gladiators and shit. Dude,
he's real. Yeah. That's really him, too. But
see, like I say, the best thing you can do is
you. Yeah. He's having fun doing him right now.
And we're locked in because we don't see too
many people doing him but him. Snoop, the word
is he's even better than you've seen. The word
is by people who train with him, they're like,
dude, he is a fucking freak of nature. He's a
freak of nature. He's really smart. He knows
what to do. He's got sick timing. He's just like
he's got a super genius fight mindset. You watch
him fight. He doesn't make any mistakes. I think
he's had three or four fights in the UFC. He's
only even hit twice. He's that defensive? He's
just a swarm. He's just a swarm. One guy he knocked
out with one punch in the first round. These
other guys he just gets a hold of and smashes
them. It's wild. And there's nothing you can
do when he gets his hands on you. It's wild,
and everybody can sense it. So he's got that
thing about him, and he's got that thing about
him just purely from his talent. Conor has that
thing about him because of his talent and his
personality. Right, right, and his conversation.
Yeah. Just when you hear him talk, just to hear
somebody from that country talk, that shit just
sounds fucking crazy, especially when they talking
that shit. Like, you know that, I'll fucking
take his fucking hand off and fucking break his
fucking... His fucking bollocks. Yeah, like,
that shit just sounds like a fucking movie to
me, one of them motherfucking... Guy Ritchie
movies. Exactly. Yeah, angry British men. They're
the best sounding angry people. The best sounding
angry people for sure. Conor's going to give
you a sound bite. You can believe that. That's
hilarious. So true. I mean, and that shit talking
just makes it so much more interesting when it
actually comes to the fight. But that's what
we love about sports is that you can talk shit
as a fan and as a... person that's actually in
the middle of the situation. Yeah. And that's
what we love about the shit that we do, is that
we can talk shit and back it up. And when the
fight is over with, you know, it is what it is.
We got to move on. Because I like when somebody's
talking shit, and then they do the press conference,
they do all that pushing and all that shit, then
they get in the fight 20 minutes later, and he
got his ass kicked. Yeah. And then you got to
interview him. He be like, well, you know, I
respect him now. You know, I got respect for
him now. I love that when somebody earns their
respect. Do you like doing that thing for a trailer?
Do you like doing those fight cards and fucking
around? You know what I like? I like being in
front of a live fight talking that shit. And
I don't have to fight. I like that part, you
know, because normally, you know, in that environment,
you'd be feeling like, man, let me go help the
motherfucker that's losing. But I'd be like,
fuck the motherfucker that's losing. That's what
your ass get for coming in there looking like
that. That's like we were saying earlier. Just
regular people who watch sports, you get a chance
to have a regular person give it to you the way
that you would want to hear. And the way you're
probably watching it at home is the way I'm giving
it to you when I'm doing what I'm doing. Yeah,
you're doing it like you would do it if we were
hanging out. That's what people like. They like
that. When I'm doing the UFC, I have to be very
professional. That's what I'm doing. It's a more
professional thing. But sometimes we'll do these
fight companions where we just get high and get
drunk and watch the fights and talk shit. But
when you with DC, y 'all different. Y 'all break
the rules. Y 'all be on some other shit. I love
when you with him. Because if somebody get knocked
out, you two motherfuckers are jumping up, falling
out of y 'all chair or hitting each other upside
the head or something. He is the nicest guy on
earth. He's one of the nicest people I've ever
met. And he transformed into a fucking great
announcer, too. Amazing. He's the shit. Amazing
announcer. Amazing. But he's also fun. He's,
like, fun. Like, he had this little argument
with Kamaru Usman. It was hilarious. Where he
was talking about whether or not Colby Covington
took Kamaru down officially. Because he was saying
it's a takedown. He's a wrestling expert. He
was a two -time Olympian. He's like, that's a
takedown. And then so him and Kamaru were talking.
And Kamaru was like, well, you know, I guess
they judged it by how much control. He didn't
establish control. And DC's like, two. Two points.
Like, that's a takedown. He was going, dude,
that was a takedown. Two points. But he's so
lovable. So me and him do commentary. It's like.
you know hanging out and it's informative too
because man the way you guys inform us on certain
in the ufc world You make it fun to listen to.
It's not too complex. Like, a lot of times when
you watch sports, they using big -ass words,
and you don't know what the fuck they talking
about. Y 'all make that shit easy to understand.
Well, DC will break it down so the fighters can
actually learn from, like, if they're in this
position next time, what are they doing wrong?
Like, he's giving points. He's like, he should
have had his head on the left side. He should
have been driving forward, and that's why he
got stuck there. Like, he's, like, explaining
as it's happening. And I like when it's happening
how... Both of you guys are talking to the fighter
without him hearing you, telling him what he
should be doing. and how he got in that move
and how he need to get his ass out of that move.
He should have his legs around his waist. He
should be trying it, and all of a sudden the
shit happened. It'd be like, damn, did y 'all
predict this shit? No, it's like there's certain
moves in jiu -jitsu where you know a guy has
to do the next thing in order to finish the guy.
So you see it coming. The problem with those
little shows is sometimes if DC's yelling out
advice, they might be able to hear him. Oh, because
it's that close. That Apex Center. Right. Because
you did the one with Sugar Sean O'Malley. That
was at the Apex Center, right? That's that little
spot. It's intimate. You can hear it every day.
So if you're yelling out advice, if you're Daniel
Cormier and you're saying what the guy needs
to do right now. You may be listening to him.
He's listening. He's listening. He's right there.
He getting choked all up. Yeah. Maybe if the
guy just put his chin up. Yeah. Exactly. I mean,
you're getting real -time advice from an Olympian.
And he's been coaching wrestling his whole life.
I mean, he's still coaching wrestling. So it's
like when you see a guy like that doing commentary.
So here's the elephant in the room. Which UFC
fighter is going to handle Jake Paul? I don't
know. I mean. For them to be like, to get free
from a UFC contract they currently have, I don't
think Dana White is going to do that. So nobody
good enough can beat him that'll come over? I
don't know. I mean, maybe if they thought they
could make a lot of money and there was someone
who was like a current UFC fighter and they could
arrange it, maybe they could make some sort of
a joint promotion, but I just don't see the UFC
doing that. It doesn't have to. I mean, look,
Jake Paul's killing it in boxing. He is. It's
brilliant shit. I just don't want him to stand
in front of Mike Tyson and look like that's going
to happen. That's going to be Logan. That's the
one who fought Floyd. See, when he whooped Logan,
it's all a domino effect. Now go get your little
brother. You know this shit. Come on, Joe. Quit
playing with me, man. It's Mike Tyson we talk
about. This is not a regular motherfucker. It's
not a regular dude. And I don't give a fuck if
he's 55. It may trigger his old instincts like,
do you know that motherfucker's still in there?
Snoop, let me tell you a story. The reason why
this table's this wide, this is true. This is
a true story. When I first moved to Austin, I
had a smaller table that I was going to set up.
And I was like, maybe I'll be a little more intimate
with the guest. And then I had Mike on one time,
and the first time I had him on, Mike was not
training at all, and he said he can't work out
at all because it'll ignite his ego, and he just
smokes a lot of weed. And we had a great conversation.
It was real fun. And then he came back on again
to promote the Roy Jones fight, and he was jacked.
His giant muscles in his forearms. Stomach was
gone. And he looked like he was ready to go.
Like, you could see the element that made him
Mike Tyson in his prime had been, like, reignited,
whatever it was. I'm like, no, I need a wider
table. I was nervous in the room with him. Like,
you could tell he's ready to go. I don't give
a fuck if he's 55. Like 55 in 2021 is not 55
from like 1988. It's not. It's not the same thing.
Still fucking hurt when they hit your fucking
head. You watch him hit pads. Have you seen him
hit pads with Rafael Cordero? It's terrifying.
It's fucking terrifying. Not terrifying because
he's 55. Fucking terrifying. It's a terrifying
human. If he was 21 and he was hitting pads like
that, I'd be like, holy shit. This kid's a killer.
Iron Mike Tyson. The fact that he can still do
that at 55. And he's smoking weed, Joe, so he's
probably in his best condition of his life. I
bet he's going in there high. Why wouldn't he?
Why wouldn't he? I think he said he fought Roy
Jones high. I know for a fact he did. I believe
it. Why wouldn't he? He likes it. Makes him more
calm and relaxed. I walked through everybody's
dressing room before the fight and made sure
they had their pep speech for me. I think he
was going to fight Lennox Lewis, too. There was
some talk of that. Wow. But I don't know if that's
real. Look at that fucking savage body punch.
Jesus Christ. The pad, man, got to be heard.
Yeah. I mean, there's some videos of him, Jamie.
See if you can find a video of him. Oh, with
that speed. That's recent? See if you can find
one of those videos of him hitting the pads,
because it's fucking horrifying. It's just amazing
that he can still generate that kind of speed
and power at 55 years old See what's gonna hurt
is when he that light click on he gonna be like
you the motherfucker that beat me. Yeah You're
gonna treat one of the motherfuckers like Buster
Douglas man when in the 80s when he was in his
prime It was one of the craziest times ever for
boxing, where fights just became like executions.
Look at the Mike Tyson Snoop Dogg face. This
shit. Oh, here it is. So here he is, 55 years
old. I mean, come on, man. And, you know, you're
looking at a lot of these videos. They're from
months and months ago. And he's still training.
So he's only got better. Yeah, he's getting it
back. Muscle memory, right? But this is terrifying.
Look at his trainer eyes. That motherfucker look
like, you better not hit me, Mike. Hold on, my
face right here. His trainer is a legend. Yeah.
Got to be. Rafael Cordero's a legend. He got
to be to stand his ass in front of him. Yeah.
He's a Muay Thai specialist, but an MMA coach
from Shoot the Box. Rafael Cordero. He's a legend.
And he runs King's MMA. Oh, that's big. Yeah.
That guy training with Mike Tyson is crazy. It's
fascinating that Mike chose like a martial arts.
He got his mind right. That's letting you know.
His mental is different. Dude, he was terrifying.
He's terrifying. The fact that Logan Paul wants
to box him, it's like, wow. I can't believe they're
really going to do that. I can. I'm probably
going to be announcing this shit. Yeah? What's
your prediction? Second round KO. Yeah, that
kid's going to get hit for sure. Because Floyd
was hitting him. Yeah, Floyd was hitting him.
Floyd is, you know, only taken a small amount
of time off, and Floyd's had those exhibition
fights. Floyd's power is nowhere near Mike Tyson's
power. But I was just saying that Floyd has been
pretty active as a boxer. He fought Pacquiao
recently. Went to Japan and fought. Yeah, and
he fought the Japanese kickboxer guy, Nazukawa,
Tension. He fought... He was fighting guys like
Conor McGregor that we knew Floyd was going to
beat them. But he was still active. Mike hadn't
been active forever. Forever. He was getting
fat for me. Yeah, he got real fat. Went vegan
for a while. Yeah, he's, you know, that's a different
kind of person. Shit, Mike in shape now. He look
good as a motherfucker right now. He looks chiseled.
His mind is right. He got some good weed. Got
his motherfucking body together. I'm like, yeah,
that's the Mike I like. Yeah, it's going to be
interesting. It's going to be interesting to
see what Logan can do to keep away from him.
Well, I'm betting on Mike. All my money. Yeah,
it just, the only thing you would have on Logan's
side is youth. Youth. That's it. You don't sit
your young ass down somewhere? Yeah, it's the
level of skill. It's like so many magnitudes
different. That's why it's wild. I got one more
song for you. Would I put it in the airdrop?
Yep. Did you get it? Did you get it, Jamie? No.
What do I got to do? Highlight it and then put
it in there? Yeah, drag and drop it on top of
my name. Okay, what about that? Yeah, this is
an anthem for me and you right now. I got some
weed now in the time to blaze this shit up. Come
on. world getting sicker every day i feel like
it's about to end about to end i've been through
this life i'm trying to separate the really for
real and pretend all these niggas always look
crazy crazy every day your mother lose a baby
and every day a baby lose a mama and we all go
to instagram for drama i like my weed Like it
in the morning I light my weed For all the weed
smokers out there In the long time November 19th
I light my weed This single is out right now
Jane Hancock Off of that album with the model
Yeah, Jane Talk to him, Jane When I go to sleep
at night Yeah Blaze that shit up What you waiting
on? Yeah Dreams of me living life Gotta do great,
I can't do average. I'm well established. You
got some weed and gone and passed it. Different
fabric. You'll be surprised who really acted.
When it's what? When them lights, camera flashin'.
I ain't gossiping with these birds, I'm on other
shit. Niggas can't talk to me, stupid, cause
I'm not that other bitch. Conscious with who
I'm with. Thank God I'm talented. I gotta hit
a right percent if you want my master rank. This
time I'm betting on me, and I don't give a fuck
if I can write these songs in my sleep. I told
myself that it'd be over if I had self -esteem.
And now I got it. I'm freestyling, but my style
ain't for free. Just think about it. I do this
for the ones in the hood that will never leave
it. You can see this product from Richmond and
believe it. Long guess is good. Go and do what
you want. My mom and dad know. So I ain't scared
to smoke my marijuana. All the weed smoking out
there. Smoke it in the morning. If you're on
your lunch break, smoke it on your lunch break.
Get your smoke on real quick. Go in the bathroom
or sit in your car. I like, I like, I like when
my thoughts come down. I smoke. Jane Hancock.
Off of that Algorithm album. November 19th on
Def Jam. Live and exclusive on the Joe Rogan
Experience. You bet you. Can I ask you how you
create a song? When you're putting something
like that together, do you write it out on paper?
Do you just say it until you remember it? Jay
-Z apparently doesn't write anything, right?
Right. He just keeps it all in his head. Do you
do that? Do you write it? When I first started
out, my first album, Doggystyle, I got two songs
where I just freestyle. One is called Jeeves
and Hustlers, and one is called The Shiznit.
Those two songs, I just went in there and just
freestyled whatever came out of my mind and my
head at the day. I've been good at that for a
long time, but a lot of times I like to make
sure that I'm pinpointing a specific topic, a
specific cadence, and a specific style that I'm
trying to perfect when I'm making a song. I'm
not just trying to make a record for the day.
I'm trying to make something that's going to
be here tomorrow and the next day and the next
year. So when you said you freestyle it, you
mean like when you walked in, you really didn't
know what you were going to sing when you were
recording it? Well, the song, The Shiznit, was
supposed to be a mic check. I was supposed to
go in there and just check the mic. Mic check,
one, two, mic check, and Dre put the beat on.
Mic check, check, one, two, one, two. Hop it,
stop it, hopping like a rabbit. When I take the
Nina Ross, you know I gots to have it. I stay
back in the cut, retain myself. I'm thinking
about the shit, and I'm thinking, well, how can
I make my grip? And how can I make that nigga
straight, slip? Said Tripp, gotta get him for
his grip as I dip around the corner. Now I'm
on another mission, wishing upon a star. It's
Snoop Doggy Dogg with the caviar. In the back
of the limo, no demo for Sister Real. I'm breaking
niggas down like Evander Holyfield. Chill, till
the next episode. I make money, and I really
don't love hoes. To tell you the truth, I swoop
in the coop. I used to love. Man, come on, man.
That was all a freestyle just going in that motherfucker
and just spit from the dome, and it just came
out, and Dr. Dre just made it work. Made it work.
But every song is different. You know, because
sometimes a song would come to me from just like
hearing some shit or just being out somewhere
and be like, damn, I want to make a song about.
whatever I just went through or whatever I'm
going through or whatever is the moment. It's
always a different experience every time we make
a song. So sometimes it's something that you
actually write out? A lot of times. The song
Murder was the case. I wrote that song because
I was thinking about life after death. The song
was initially called Dave, D -A -V -E, Death
After Visualizing Eternity. And it was crazy
that I was thinking of shit like that, and I
had made a song called Murder Was the Case that
was about me losing my life. But before I lost
my life, I did cut a deal with the devil, but
then God came back and gave me another chance.
That was in my mind, but when I wrote it, it
just became some gangster shit, but that was
the premise behind it. And it was just in my
head, like, I want to write a song like this.
And then three months later, I caught a murder
case in real life. Whoa. Yes. So my pen was actually
writing reality. So I had to pull back from certain
things and say, maybe I should start writing
about life and living instead of always writing
about dying and death. Whoa. Deep. Just think
about my peers. Me, Tupac, Biggie. Like, just
think about our records. The last records that
they made, it was a lot of death. It had some
life in it, too, but it had a lot of death in
it. Yeah, that East Coast, West Coast shit, it
became a real divide in the country with hip
-hop, right? Yeah, it was, because you didn't
want to be on the wrong side. And you didn't
want to, like, for example, if you had friends,
right, that was leaning more towards the East
Coast, and you had a friend that really wanted
to hear West Coast music, y 'all might have ended
y 'all friendship. Yeah. Based off of that. Really?
It was that serious. Yeah. How did it, it went,
it kind of isn't that way anymore though, right?
Mm -mm. What it was. That's good. Isn't that
like a good sign for the future? That's a great
sign. There's people working together from all
parts of the world. Because like in the 90s,
that was a real problem. That was a real divide.
The divide was the, we couldn't control the media
like we can now. So. Even back then, East Coast
and West Coast used to hang with each other and
kick it and love each other. But we didn't control
the media platform, so we didn't have an Instagram
or Facebook and none of that shit where we can
slap up a picture of me and Nas and Jay -Z and
this person hanging out. We didn't have that.
All you had was the media saying, the East Coast
and the West Coast don't like each other. Which
side you choosing? Yeah. And that's just that.
Yeah. It's their job just to sell newspapers.
Right. And then once lives were lost, then you
could blame, you could naturally say, Tupac,
okay, did somebody have something to do with
that from the East Coast? We don't know. Biggie,
he got killed on the West Coast. That puts speculation
that maybe somebody from the West Coast had something
to do with it. So it just kept fueling to the
fire until you had people like Puffy, myself,
Steve Harvey, who were man enough to say, look,
we need to put an end to this and let people
know. We don't advocate that. We really love
each other. We're a family. And we started building
bridges and started doing things together and
being seen together and controlling our own narrative
as far as what we was putting in the public's
eye. I'm glad that it ended because it showed
that that's possible, that real disputes. I mean,
think about the dispute in this country between
just the Democrats and the Republicans. Like,
what the fuck? I thought we were all supposed
to be American. It's like we split it down to
two sides of a country. And it seems like it's
a similar thing. And I hope we could get over
it the same way East Coast, West Coast rappers
got over it. I know we can. That's real progress.
One thing about the world we live in right now,
Joe, look at me and you. Look at how we're doing
this right now. You know how many people we're
bringing together? By me and you sitting right
here chopping it up, talking. We making peace
right now. I hope so. I know so. I hope so. I
know so. Because it's a ton of motherfuckers
that I know that fuck with you, that love you,
that suggested that I do your show. And I've
been telling you that anyway. You know what I'm
saying? I've been through all of my people, whether
it was Burt Kreischer, whether it was whoever
the fuck has always been like, Joe, what's happening?
When am I going to come on your show? I'll always
be like, what's happening, Joe? When am I going
to come on your show? I just never wanted to
bother you. Fuck all that. I didn't want to hear
that shit. You're going to drop that soft -ass
comment, I never wanted to bother you. I never
wanted to bother you. Every time I see you, don't
I bother you? Listen, man, you're one of the
guys that I get legit nervous around. Come on,
man. I've been a fan of yours for so long, I
get nervous that you talk to me. Remember when
Burt called you that night when we was doing
the Go Big show? Yes. What did I say? What's
happening, Joe? Can I do the podcast? Listen,
you can do the podcast anytime you want. I just
didn't want to bother you. But people on my team
suggested, like, well, you know, we pushing the
album and all that shit definitely for press
and promotions, but on top of that, they was
like, man, Joe Rogan is the motherfucker. Do
you know him? I'm like, what? Let me text you
and see what's happening real quick. So I had
to pull out my Rolodex and text you. And you
was like, hey, man, this is the wrong number.
Hit me from the other number. Then you called
me. I'm like, look, Joe, fuck that shit. I got
to come see you, man. Let's make it official,
man. I love you and I love what you do. So we
just need to stand by each other and support
what we do. This is what it's about. When I was
on FaceTime with you, this is how you transcend
generations. I was on FaceTime with you at my
dinner table. I have a daughter who has a dog
named Snoop. And somehow or another, my 13 -year
-old thought I was talking to the dog. And I'm
like, what's up, Snoop? And then I turn and I
show her the FaceTime. And she goes, holy shit,
it's Snoop Dogg. For real. My daughter's never
done that. Holy shit, it's Snoop Dogg. For real.
She said that like she's been saying that shit
for years. That shit came out too slick. It was
hilarious. Come on, man. We family, man. That's
amazing. I just met the dog in real life. Yeah.
Which y 'all don't know, me and the dog just
bonded. He's a little cutie, isn't he? Yeah,
man. He fuck with me. That's my nephew, man.
You understand me? I'm the dog father. You know,
when a dog see me. You have 20 dogs? Yeah. When
a dog see me, Joe, this is naturally what happens.
I don't give a fuck if it's the meanest, toughest
dog. Either he come over to me and he rub me
or he lay on his back or he just sit down and
just pee. because he'd be so happy he'd just
start peeing. He'd be like, damn, that's Snoop
Dogg. You're a real dog man. You seen it with
your own two eyes. I saw it. You can't fake that.
The way you came up to that little dog and then
he was like frozen and you started petting him
and he started giving in to you. And he posed
for the picture. Come on now, Joe. Who does that?
Yeah. Who the fuck does that? For him, it's like
meeting a mythical god. You've heard your namesake.
Your namesake is a man. He raps. He's in movies.
Imagine you're a dog. You're trying to figure
this out. Who am I named after? Oh, you're named
after Snoop D -O -double -G, the real. The motherfucking
dog father? The dog father. And when he see me,
he say, that smell like the dog father. Shriveling
timbers. Exit stage left. It must be the dog,
father. I must run up. Imagine if he tried to
explain to his friends that he met the real Snoop
Dogg. They'd be like, shut the fuck up. You lying.
I'm telling you. How the fuck you meet Snoop
Dogg? I'll shut your little ass down somewhere.
You ain't meeting no motherfucking Snoop Dogg.
I met him, dog. I'm telling you. Motherfucker
was scratching my back and everything. Don't
you think you have some sort of a telepathic
relationship with dogs? I think I do. I think
that's what my... Previous life, I think that's
what I was. If you have a good dog, though, a
good connection with your dog, I think everybody
has a telepathic connection with their dog. You
probably especially love dogs, and they can sense
that right away. Just like you can sense a person
who's a loving person right away. Right. Dogs
can sense that, too. And you're obviously a loving
dog person. You love that dog. I can tell. Man,
I go up to the meanest, toughest dogs, Joe, and
I break them. Like, that's my thing, to break
a dog. He's mean. I'm not the whisperer. What
his name is? Caesar, the little dog whisperer.
I ain't him. I'm like a different version of
that. Like, it could be a real mean, tough dog,
and I'd be like, let me go talk to him. And I'd
walk him back in the living room and sit. He'd
sit down. He's never sat like that before. I
know. What did you do to him? Don't worry about
all that. I've always been pretty good with dogs,
but some dogs are just, you can't take a chance
with them. The big ones? Yeah, there's like,
not even some of the big ones. There's some medium
-sized ones that are real sketchy. If they're
not trained right, like Belgian Malinois. Oh,
yeah. That's not a big dog. No, I'm talking about
American dogs. All that European shit, I don't
do all that. Those are the, they're called meat
missiles. Yeah, you got to talk to them in a
different language. I don't speak that shit.
And you see those things, you're like, you're
basically a wolf. Exactly. That's basically a
little wolf. Right. And they use them for service,
duty. They're always used overseas. That's the
dog of choice. Those motherfuckers can walk on
tightropes. Have you ever seen that, Snoop? No,
I haven't. They walk tightropes. For real? Yeah,
for real. Yeah, they have like two tightropes,
and the dog puts one paw on each one, and he
walks on this tightrope. They go over obstacle
courses. They can jump like 20 feet in the air.
They're like missiles. You know what my mission
was when I used to go overseas? Was to break
the mouth. Look at this. Watch this video. Look
at this fucking dog. This is how smart they are.
Look at this obstacle course this dog's running.
Watch this. Oh, that's hard. This is crazy. This
is how smart they are and how driven they are.
This dog has a course to run. He knows the course.
He's walking on ropes, hopping from object to
object. The fact that a dog could be trained
to do this and follow these instructions this
clearly like he knows exactly where to go And
he's doing all this crazy shit like look he's
on a fucking tightrope again and You don't have
to talk to him. You don't have to tell him what
to do He knows what to do is it this guy giving
him instruction the dog just doing it Jamie Okay,
he is giving him instructions. That's gangster
right there. Look at that. He's making the dog
walk on his fucking front legs. That's crazy.
Go, go, hurry up. Come on, go. The fact that
you could teach a dog to do this, like that is
not a normal dog. That dog must have immense
problem -solving drive, like prey drive. And
that's what makes a good hunter. That's why they're
so scary. He can go get a rat. Exactly. Or a
person. That dog will go get a person. This nigga
can't walk on a ladder. Yeah, he's walking up
the ladder and going down a slide. Come on, cuz.
Come on, cuz. He's on the roof. He's on the roof.
And he went up there to get the ball. That's
amazing. That's amazing. And for his reward,
he gets a ball. Wow. Dude, that's... That's what
she said. She wanted some balls for her reward.
You know what's interesting? It's like, that's
cool to watch. It's cool to watch a dog that
can do that. It's amazing. But why does a dog
have that kind of problem -solving ability? Why?
To kill things. Right. That's why. That's right.
That's why it's so good at that. It's why it's
also so hard to control. They want to kill things.
Go find him. Exactly. They just want to hunt.
You're going to get found with that motherfucker
looking for you. That's not a big dog either.
That's kind of a scary animal because it's like
a 60 -pound thing that'll take out men. They
look like a German Shepherd, dude. They look
similar, but they're smaller. They're actually,
well, I don't know for the most part. I'm not
a Belgian Malinois expert, but I believe they're
smaller. I'm going to tell you what my mission
was. Look at this. Snoop, look at this. Look
at this dog. Oh, he got too much. Look at that.
Look how fucking high he jumps. I mean, how high
is he? That's like 20 feet in the air. What the
fuck? How does an animal jump 20 feet in the
air? These things are fucking ferocious, man.
And they're so athletic. Like, look at this dog
leap. It's climbing a fucking wall. Climbs a
fucking wall, jumps off of his owner's back,
and climbs like 20 feet up a fucking wall and
scrambles to the top. I mean, what the hell,
man? Imagine if you're on top of that thing and
you're like, I'm safe up here. Shit, this is
like 20 feet. And you see that thing running
up the hill? Look at that with its mouth open.
Why can it do that? It can do that in place of
killing things. Right. Because it needs stimulation,
like hunt -type stimulation. It needs something
to initiate that prey drive over and over again.
So if you can get it to chase a ball or run or
grab a walk, Cross the tightrope. It'll do that.
What it really wants to do is kill shit. It wants
to go kill shit. That's a little wolf. That's
a pacifier right now. That's a fucking wolf.
Damn, damn, damn. Damn, damn, damn. Look, my
mission back in the days when I used to go overseas
was to break that motherfucking beagle. Because
that beagle used to be waiting on us when we'd
come through the airport. It smelled like that
good dope. And that motherfucker come stand right
next to a motherfucker. When he stand next to
you, they call you out the line and run through
all your bags. So I had to figure out how to
break this motherfucker. I took a little class
on beagles. So next time I went overseas, a little
motherfucker pulled up on me, and he looked at
me, and he was like, and I gave him a little
signal. He said, no, not him. And he went and
stood next to another motherfucker. and that
was a beautiful thing, and I learned how to break
the beagle. Y 'all hit me up if y 'all want to
learn how to break that beagle when y 'all go
overseas, because that motherfucker's ferocious.
He's going to smell some old dope on you. He's
going to take you in that back room, man, that
little bitty black dog. Watch out now. Yeah,
if you go overseas, they have totally different
rules. If you get arrested with weed in, like,
Singapore, you're in real fucking trouble. How
about one country you can't even smell like weed?
Really? You can't even have it in your system.
What country is that? Norway. Really? Norway?
Zero tolerance. Norway? For weed? Yes. That seems
absurd. They seem like, when I think of Norway,
I think of like open -minded, logical people.
Yeah, the women and the people. But as far as
the lawmakers. Not the politicians? Yeah, nah,
they ain't with that shit. Really? That's zero
tolerance in Norway. So it's completely illegal?
I went over there, motherfuckers. I had a concert.
As soon as I got off stage. We're on a tour bus
and my tour bus driver driving. He just pulled
over to the side of the road. We're like, what
the fuck he pull over for? Two police officers
in a little ass car get on the bus and come right
to me and say, you need to come with us. I'm
like, huh? You need to come with us. So the car
is so little, can't nobody ride with me. So I
got to ride with them to the police station and
they tell me. Either you're going to give us
some blood or you're going to pee in the cup.
But we need to see if you got any drugs in your
system. So I pee in the cup, do the show, come
back like maybe six months later. This time when
I come back, they like, they pull me and my cousin
over on the side of the road and just draw down
on us like, you under arrest. I'm like, damn,
I just got here. You had a dirty test last time
you was here. You under arrest. Put me in the
car. arrest me, take me down to the station,
make me pee in the cup again, and then ask for
a picture and let me go. Whoa. Imagine how dramatically
shocked I was. I needed to smoke one after that.
What country was that? Norway. Norway? Really?
I would have never imagined they would be so
hardcore. Oh, yeah. I would imagine Norway would
be pretty, like, you know, it's like, I think
of all those people, I think of, like, Holland.
Right? Netherlands. I know they're not close
to each other, but I'm an ignorant American.
Netherlands is lovely. You don't have no problems
over there. They don't even got... Look, they
can pull these cars so little. Somebody was following
this paparazzi, and we stopped to take a picture,
and then all of a sudden a dude rolled by on
the bike, and my driver hit him on the bike.
Boom. And he didn't get hurt, but he laid all
out in front of the van like he was fucked up.
So then my security was like, hey, man, you got
to move. We got to go. You ain't that hurt. Get
your ass out the street. So the dude got up,
and then my security pushed him. And when he
pushed him, the police was coming. Police pulled
up in a car about this big, and my security is
like 6 '9", 450 pounds. So they looked at my
security, and the police said, okay. You drive
yourself to the police station, and we're going
to follow y 'all because you can't fit in our
car. So we had to drive him to the police station
to write up a little report on him pushing a
lady, and then they let him go. So there's no
crime over there. There's no police cars. The
police didn't even have a gun. We could have
just drove off if we wanted to. It was so funny
to us that we had to drive ourselves to jail.
We just did this shit. Like, fuck it. Come on.
Let's go. What country is the easiest to smoke
weed in? Amsterdam. That's the easiest, right?
Yes, sir. Well, it's part of the tourism industry.
It really is. The coffee shops. Yeah. Well, it
used to be the tourism industry of Vancouver.
Vancouver was the shit. Right? Before the pandemic.
It was the shit. Yeah, particularly before the
pandemic. The B .C. They had that B .C. I mean,
their whole economy is in some way based on weed.
Gotta be. I mean, there's so much weed that came
out of that part of the country. There was that
documentary, The Union. Mm -hmm. And it's all
about that, all about the underbelly of, like,
things that finance businesses and stuff in that
area. It's people growing weed. Man, my first
movie was shot in Vancouver. Really? I had to
stay out there for, like, five or six months.
It's called Jimmy Bones. And I was getting so
much good weed out there. I lived out there.
It was so good. It was like, you know, when you're
shooting a movie, you can fly back home. I'm
like, shit, I didn't even fly home. I just stayed
out there. That shit was good. And this was like
1999. And I don't even think it was, it wasn't
federally legal, but we were still getting that
shit. Yeah, they're totally legal now. The whole
country of Canada is legal. It's like they make
good choices and bad choices. But the whole country
is completely, marijuana is completely legal.
And they give you free health care. Yeah. I mean,
somebody's got to pay for it, right? But, yeah,
it's free. That's 100 % something that we need
to figure out how to do in a country like America,
as big as it is. Let's figure that out. And I
think we could do it through selling weed. Right.
That's what I think. Right. Make weed legal federally
and put a percentage of the tax that goes straight
to health care. We have everybody covered quick.
If weed was legal nationwide? Well, look, in
Denver, Colorado, what they did when they started,
they took some of their taxes and put it towards
education. That's a good move. Which was a great
move, and then the crime rate went down, education
is going up, and then Denver, Colorado finances
just, you know, grew the whole state, the whole,
you know, situation has grown. Do you think that
they should legalize everything? All drugs? Well...
I said let's start with cannabis first. I don't
think all until you figure out what's the benefits,
what's the health benefits. We found the health
benefits to marijuana, so that's why I feel like
we should roll with that first until we find,
you know, what the other ones mean and can do
to help. Then we move into those because marijuana
been fighting for a long time. It used to be
the outcast. Yeah. You know, it used to always
be the outcast. You smoke weed, you a bad person,
you this, you that. Now it's like, shit, you're
finding out that some of the greatest motherfuckers
in the world couldn't move without weed. So are
we bad? Yeah, weed just gets a bad rap. Right.
Weed got a bad rap. People didn't really know
what it does. And they kept making all those
bad movies about it fucking you up as opposed
to Cheech and Chong movies showing you how much
fun you can have off of that shit. Yeah, well,
it has such a long history of propaganda against
it. What was the first movie they made talking
about it? Reefer Madness. Yeah, that black and
white movie. Yeah, there was a few of those,
though. There was Marijuana Girl, Reefer Madness.
I have a bunch of vintage posters from these
movies. How do they feel now? They're just framed
posters. It's just you look at what they were
selling back then. Right. Calling it, you know.
I told you, though. Remember, the media is controlled
by... whoever's in control. So whatever they
pushing, they made it very scary for parents
and then kids. But at the same time, what they
didn't know was when you put that kind of shit
out, you make kids want to do the shit. Right.
Exactly. You didn't deter nobody. You made motherfuckers
want to go try it. Yeah. Exactly. You tell people
they don't have the access to something, they're
not allowed to do something, they want to do
it so bad. Boy. Boy, do we. Boy, do we. We don't
like people telling us what the fuck to do, especially
when it comes to something like weed. People
can say that weed makes you lazy or weed is bad
for you. No, life provides you with all sorts
of challenges. And if you're lazy and weed comes
along, weed just found you when you're lazy.
You're not lazy. You smoke weed all the time.
You're constantly involved in shit. Somebody
put up an Instagram post. God damn, I wish I
could remember who it is. But it was like all
these obscure things that you're constantly doing.
You're always doing something. You never stop.
Can't stop, won't stop. Can't stop, won't stop.
So much shit. The many faces of Snoop Dogg. I
love it. Everything is fine, Joe. Shit, I'm like,
I'm fine. That's what it looks like. That's what
it looks like. You seem like in a world where
people become increasingly tense. You seem like
a person who's more relaxed and has more fun
every year. And I get to teach people, too. That's
like I'm at the point in my career now where
I got a lot of information and wisdom and guidance.
And I can give this to the young up and coming.
And I love that part of the industry that I can
actually give you some information as opposed
to me just having fun for me. But actually having
fun is an example for you. A hundred percent.
Because we imitate our atmosphere. If we see
someone who's tense and angry and that's who
we like, a guy who has no love and he's just
hard and cold, and that's who we admire, or we
see someone who's just having a great time with
a smile on his face, dancing around, moving,
just feeling it. I want people to smile when
I walk in the room. Yes. When you see me, I want
smiles and hugs. I don't want grabbing your purse,
locking your doors. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
I used to be that. I used to be that guy. i pulled
up you know people looked the other way locking
their doors you know now it's like hugs kisses
can i have a picture i love you my kids love
you all that great and i love it because that's
who i am i come in with a smile i come in being
yes life with a party i don't come in this sad
or mad i come in happy upbeat yeah no you come
in with all love you can feel it You're a fun
dude. That's how I was raised, yo. That's beautiful.
You get it from up top. The people that raised
you are the reason you are who you are. So here's
my point. You are completely connected to marijuana.
You're one of the nicest people alive. There's
a connection, obviously. Right. Why the fuck
do people demonize marijuana when it's capable
of creating a Snoop Dogg? They just got to have
an open mind, yo. You know how it is. People
had bad things to say about alcohol until you
understood that it could really set the mold.
It could really help conversations. It could
really do what it's supposed to do. So until
we actually understand what it does, we'll always
have skepticism and people are going to have
opinions about it. But those who do it know what
it means. We're one nation under a bud. We all
move together. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
It's united though, right? When you find people
that smoke, don't y 'all just have such a great
time? Yeah, it's easier to have a great time
if you all smoke. I think people who smoke are
just a little more, when they're high, they're
a little more compassionate. Look, I'm going
to give you a story, man. We was doing the fucking
Justin Bieber roast, and I'm sitting next to
Martha Stewart. Shout out to Tony Inchcliffe.
Right, he's my motherfucker. I love that. He's
my motherfucker, so we're doing that. And Martha's
sitting right next to me. I know her, but I don't
know her like that. I've done her show before,
but I don't really know her like that. So I'm
smoking like I am right now. I'm probably on,
like, blunt number 17. She catching all the secondhand
smoke. She fucked up by now. So my boy Jeff Ross,
he like, fuck this shit, Snoop. You sitting way
over there. I need to hit something with you.
All right, cool. Next commercial break, me and
Jeff Ross going to motherfucking. potter port
with little potty thing that they got you know
when you one dude was being there peeing me and
jeff when that blew a whole blunt to the head
and came back out and it was the funniest ever
man like and then me and martha stewart became
friends and started doing business out of that
so this marijuana yeah is a beautiful culmination
of relationships because who would have thought
that that day would have spawned all of the shit
that me and Martha Stewart has done since then.
So much shit. And it's fun to see me and her
together, right? Oh, it's very fun. It's a cross
-generational, cross -cultural love fest. Yeah,
but it don't feel like it's forced, right? No,
not at all, no. It's perfect. But who would have
thought? Who would have thought, though, Joe?
Come on now. Yeah, who would have thought? Come
on, man. Snoop and Martha? Yeah, I know. Now
the shit just sound like, hey, it's Snoop and
Martha. Exactly. Try this shit on seven years
ago. What the fuck is you talking about snooping,
Martha? I know, right? It's amazing. But that's
the world we live in. That's why I say, if that
can happen, imagine how many people would hurt
our Democrats and Republicans. Same with me.
But when we're together, that shit don't matter.
You get what I'm saying? Certain times when you
get together, you can break all of the politics
and just make it be about love and people. A
hundred percent. And that's what it should be
about. When you're around people and you just
communicate eye to eye, face to face with people,
that's who a real person is. This idea of communication
through the internet, through social media and
all the shit that people are doing, it just creates
so much conflict. It's so unnecessary in so many
ways. The way people communicate with each other.
It's like people get off on insulting each other.
But if you were right in front of a person, you
would never talk like that, right? It would be
rude. You would feel they're being upset. You
would pull back. You'd feel bad that you said
it that way. That's how people are supposed to
talk. You're supposed to take cues off the people
that you're talking to. And this is a great time,
and it's also a confusing time. So much crazy
shit is going on in the world. But it's also
a time where when things get really like tumultuous
and all fucked up and chaotic, people can be
forced to make new plans and to work through
things better. That's what I'm hoping. I'm hoping
culturally we come out of this on the other side
with like a better understanding of how we can
function as a society. I think we're going to
adapt to our environment because even when I
see like... Well, my grandkids, right, I got
six grandkids, and all of my grandkids are mixed,
meaning that they have an African -American background.
Some of them have a Caucasian background. Some
of them have a Latino background. Some of them
have a Colombian background. But they're mixed,
and they love me, and I love them, and we're
putting a new love in the world, and I see a
lot of... mixed couples and mixed babies, and
they don't have nothing but love for people.
And if the world is moving in that direction
with my grandkids and just kids in general, because
kids are the purest people in the world. And
when they're young and they're kids, they just
know how to love, and it's all about them learning
what you teach them. So if they're learning on
their own now and they're learning how to communicate
and network and they're spreading love, we ain't
got to worry about nothing because the generation
that we're living in now, they know how to love
each other. They're certainly learning, and I
think having a guy like you around that has that
message is great for everybody. It's great for
everybody. It's great for young people to see
a guy who's successful and loved and is friendly
and loving and wants people to just have a good
fucking time. That's your thing. I mean, if anybody
wanted to connect anything to what is Snoop Dogg
all about, Snoop Dogg is all about having a good
fucking time. Everything, all your videos, everything
you do, all your songs. You're having a good
fucking time. That's what you promote. And it
makes people feel good. It's like you're an engine
of fun times. That's what you've been doing your
whole life. Man, that's a love thing. I had the
pleasure of talking with James Brown for like
three hours one night. Wow. Just like me and
you sitting at a table right here. Holy shit.
Just to get the information. I'm looking at him
in his face the whole conversation. He like,
you know, Snoopy. He talking to me and I'm like,
I'm in this motherfucker with James Brown, cuz.
Right? Like you can't believe it's real. But
the things that he was saying to me, this is
like years ago. I'm seeing them right now. It's
like for someone to have that vision of you being
what you're supposed to be, being all of that
person that God made you. James seen this version
of Snoop Dogg like 20 years ago. and he was telling
me how this is what you need to be doing, this
is what you're going to be doing, this is how
you're going to change the world, and you're
going to be the most loved, and you're going
to be this. Because at that time, I wasn't loved
as much, and I wasn't on the favorable side.
I was still coming out of negative energy. So
he was just blessing me with the strength of
knowing that. I guess he felt like I was about
to do what he was doing, because now I feel like
I'm the hardest working man in show business,
and he was always the hardest working man in
show business, and he had to pass it. somebody
like me that could run on when he went home it's
hard to it's hard to like really clearly you'd
have to live in the time of James Brown in his
prime to understand there was nothing like him
before him like when James Brown did that concert
in Zaire before Muhammad Ali fought there Wow
dude That is one of the wildest concerts James
Brown in Zaire just dancing Moving and the power
and the way like there was no one like him before
him We've all seen people that were influenced
by the early greats But when it comes to a guy
like James Brown, you've got to go back to like
a Hoist Gracie type deal. You look at him and
you're like, okay, one just emerges like this.
And then a lot of other people kind of like they
might imitate styles and they might be influenced
by. But when a guy just pops out of nowhere,
get up. Get on up. I mean, come on. Come on.
Live session. You know? The big payback. Now.
Look at him. Look at him up there. And when he
was in his fucking prime, he was just a ball
of energy. And look at the way he would fucking
dance while he was singing. I mean, nobody does
this. Jamie, back that up just from the very
beginning. Who the fuck comes out and does a
show like this? This is how he goes on stage,
takes his jacket off and starts moving, spinning.
Drops to a split. How about the mic moving by
itself? I'm going to let the mic do what the
fuck it do while I drop down and hit this split.
Look at him. I mean, this is James Brown in Zaire
before a Muhammad Ali fight. This was when Ali
fought Foreman, right? Right, Rumble in the Jungle.
It was Foreman. George Clinton said he came to
James Brown one night after a concert and said,
James, hit one of them splits for me. And he
said, James, hit 16 in a row. And he looked at
George and said, now you hit one. And George
left. He said, that nigga hit 16 in a row? Can
you imagine him doing 16 of those back -to -back?
Locker, locker, locker. That was part of what
he did, man. He was a dynamo. Like, it's hard
to. Look at his hair, man. He got his chest out,
man. Well, onesie on with no drawers. Come on,
man. So you can't overstate it. You can't wear
no drawers doing splits like that. Yeah. I mean,
he had to have special. Look at James chest out
records and takes. He was like an athlete that
also was an amazing singer. I mean, it was like
when you would watch him dance, that's athletic
moves. Oh, for sure. And he's singing. And there's
no lip syncing back then. The track wasn't playing
and him singing on top of it. That was all him
right here, right now. All him. All him right
there. They didn't have that kind of technology
back then. That was James Brown being James Brown.
There's those guys that pop out out of nowhere
that are one of ones. The funk made the funk
move on. Shout out to my boy DJ Warren G. Just
had a birthday a couple of days ago. Warren G
is responsible for Snoop Dogg getting his record
deal. Is he really? Yeah, Warren G was the one
who took my music to Dr. Dre. He was always the
voice and the producer behind the scenes, making
a lot of hit records on the Chronic album. He
also produced Regulate, wrote Regulate, made
a lot of hit records for himself. And his first
album was like a three million seller. You know
what I'm saying? I helped him with one song on
there, and Corrupt helped him with a song, and
he went and knocked that shit out the park. You
know, it's beautiful when you got people that
look out for you, that speak up for you to get
you in the game, and then turn around, and then
they become successful. That's the beauty of
this game. That is a beautiful thing. And it
also creates a camaraderie, and they'll do it
to the people that are coming up that they recognize
as well. Yeah. Like we were talking about the
East Coast, West Coast thing. The fact that it
was resolved and now is, I mean, would you say
it's non -existent? It does not exist. Non -existent.
I just, I'm on Def Jam Records, right? I'm a
creative consultant executive. And just to let
you know that it don't exist no more, I'm going
to announce on your show that I just signed Benny
the Butcher. And he is one of the hardest rappers
about a Buffalo, New York. So that's showing
that there is no more. Beautiful. Lines to be
crossed. We are doing what we're supposed to
be doing. Benny the Butcher. The Butcher's coming.
That's a legitimately good sign for culture that
things have gotten better. If you think about
the stuff that's gotten better, climate change,
not really. The environment, sort of. Marijuana
laws, yeah. Sort of, kind of, yeah. But that
is one thing that you can say, yeah, they figured
that out. Yeah, we got it right. We got it right,
and we love each other. And there's a lot of
East Coast rappers who live on the West Coast.
You know why? Because no politicians were involved
in those transactions. Right. It was just us.
Right? And it was friendship. Everybody's like,
why are we doing this stupid shit? It don't add
up. It didn't make any sense. I mean, how many
fucking rappers are there? There's so many people
that want to hear hip -hop. There's plenty for
everybody. We're better when we're together.
Absolutely. And that happened a lot. Absolutely.
A lot of times, like, we did tours together where
artists... We're going to roll together. We did
one big tour in Australia. It was like a super
fest. It was me, The Game, Fat Joe, Nelly, Busta
Rhymes, Bow Wow, Sierra. It was a few others
out there, too. But it was just so much that
I just named that was sold for so many different
parts of the world. And we were in Australia.
And I swear to you, we bonded. and became brothers
and to this day to this day we love each other
and we talk about that experience that we had
in australia where we all became one beautiful
hip -hop is beautiful man that is beautiful it's
50 years old this year is it really yeah 50 years
old hip -hop i remember when i first heard sugar
hill gang i was in uh jamaica plane which is
like uh It's on the outskirts of Boston, and
I was in, I guess I was in eighth grade because
it was before high school. And we were in the
cafeteria, and some dude had, it wasn't a good
school, and a lot of kids were barely hanging
on. At the beginning of the year, you'd have
kids that were like, I was in, I guess I was
in eighth grade, and you'd have kids that were
17 in eighth grade. Like, no bullshit. Like there
was a kid who was fully grown. I was like, why
is he here? And he was there for a couple of
days. He could see him like shaking his head
in the back of the room and he would drop out
and he would leave. So it wasn't a good school.
But you heard Sugar Hill Gang. But I was in the
fucking cafeteria and I heard a hip hop, a hippity
to the hippity hip hop. And I was like, what
is that? This is a new kind of music. That shit
used to be. It was a new kind of music. It was
so good that everybody in the hood learned every
word to that song. Of course. And that's, you
know, no videos, no Instagram, no YouTube, Word.
You just learned it because it was that fucking
good. It spread. Why? It spread by word of mouth.
And if you didn't know it, you were uncool. Yeah.
But that shit came on and you didn't know it?
Man, the record companies had some power back
then, huh? They made you. They could decide.
They could decide who they could push through.
Do you know how much fucking rock music that
I know? Because I grew up in the 80s, like Journey
and Fleetwood Mac and motherfucking The Eagles,
just all kind of groups that you wouldn't expect
me to know because that's all we had prior to
hip -hop. Because hip -hop wasn't on the radio
like that because it was new. We're not going
to let that shit be on the radio. We're going
to put all, I want to know what love is. All
this shit. I want you to show me. Wow. I remember
listening to NWA for the first time on a treadmill.
The first time I heard NWA, I'm not bullshitting
that. I went to the gym, and I had to do my workout,
and I put a, I don't know if it was a CD or a
cassette. I think it was a CD. And I put it on,
and because someone told me to get Dude, You
Gotta Get This, this shit's wild. And I was running
on a treadmill, and I was like, whoa. I was like,
this is, okay. And it was sonically together,
right? The sound of it, right? Oh my God, it
was amazing. The raps are amazing. Dre made you
feel like you was watching a movie when you listened
to that shit. Ice Cube's lyrics. It was like,
my God. That was my introduction to hardcore
gangster rap. And then I got involved. I really
got into the Ghetto Boys. I was a giant Ghetto
Boys fan. Willie D is another dude, when I'm
around him, where I kind of like... Kind of fanboy
and he's so he's the coolest right? He's the
coolest He's so cool, but I was listening to
them while I was delivering newspaper I was delivering
newspapers out of my car throwing newspapers
out the window listening to the ghetto boys like
to hang out with him I've had like I've eaten
dinner with his family. I'm like I can't believe
I'm really here Mr. Mr. Scarface. Yeah, he's
got a podcast he does now with Scarface. Yeah.
Yeah, it's really good. It's really good. Look,
Willie's a smart motherfucker, and he's really,
he looks at things from all sorts of different
angles. He'll look at things from the side. He'll
look at things. He got wisdom, too. He's not
a young man. So, you know, when you got that
information and that knowledge, you know. You
got a different perspective. And that fucking
dude can box. Oh, yeah. I seen that. He can box.
Did he knock Melly Mel out? Yeah, but, I mean,
he could really box. He showed me one of his
amateur fights, and I watched him move around.
They thought Melly Mel was going to win, you
know, because Melly Mel came in there with muscles.
It's not like Willie D didn't. It's not like
he didn't have muscles. No, but Melly Mel just
ripped. I understand. You know what I'm saying?
You know when you perspective. Right. It's optics.
Oh, yeah, for sure. Optics show that. The UFC.
Right. Right? That was Kimo and Hoyce Gracie.
Right. Kimo was gigantic. Remember? Yeah. Oh,
my God. But that's the same thing. But for real,
Willie can fight. Like, he can really box. Like,
I've seen him move around. I've seen him tag
some dude and light him up. And I was like, whoa.
Like, a professional boxer. If somebody said
to me, like, hey, there's a guy coming up. He's
out of Houston, Texas. He's a bad motherfucker.
Keep an eye on him. And I watch that video. I'd
be like, whoa. That dude's scary. But that's
Willie, the rapper. Right. That's what's crazy.
Here's him right here. Dude, he's fucking good,
man. He hit that motherfucker so hard, he almost
fell. Yeah. Dude. This is the Melly Mel fight.
But there's another one that he had sent me that
I don't even think, it might not even be online,
so I can't put it online. We don't want to punish
Melly Mel. No, that's the OG hip hop. Respect
the OG Melly Mel. It's not about him, it's about
the skill of Willie. He can really box. If he
had decided to, he could have been a professional
boxer. Legitimately. I feel like that about Wiz
Khalifa. Like, when I first met Wiz, I was like,
I can beat Wiz up easy. Now, Wiz will beat my
ass. Because he know all kind of jujitsu and
kicks and all kind of shit, so. Well, he really
got into hitting Muay Thai pads. Man, Wiz is
a bad motherfucker. He's a beast. And I'm so
fucking proud of him. And he know, as his uncle,
that that shit, you know, he inspires me. Like,
and I need that in my life. I need, you know,
people like him to inspire me to want to keep
living and to want to keep being healthy. Yeah.
Well, he has even been talking about having an
MMA fight. I don't think he's going to do bad.
I think he's going to be all right. I bet he'll
be all right. As long as he's matched up well,
he'll do fine. Find some celebrity talking shit.
Let's match him up. Start him off with a celebrity.
Fuck that. Exactly. Exactly. Who would you get?
Who do you think you could lure into your trap?
Yeah, who can you get? I'm not boasting. Like,
Wiz can actually fight. Like, you watch Wiz kick
the pads and watch Wiz hit some things. I don't
know if this is an older one. This is real old
because he's way more bigger than that. Yeah,
this is old. See if you can find one that's more
recent. Wiz is like, God damn it, I just started.
Joe, did you see that kick I did? I did a high
-ass kick in my gym one time with my trainer,
Ernie. Yeah? I know you're going to find that.
Find that Snoop Dogg Shogun kick. So how often
are you training? Well, I'm getting back home
now. I'm supposed to do five days a week. Oh,
really? Yeah, I do. Do you have someone that
trains you? Do you work out by yourself? Right
here, my man Ernie. You don't know Ernie? He
got that kick coming. Ain't the kick up in there?
This looks like he's only holding mitts. Oh,
is this you? Flying sidekick. Come on, Joe. I
hear you. That's on the first time. I ain't practiced
it. He just told me when you jump, put your leg
this way and do that. This is just muscle memory
on knowing how to be athletic. Just learning
how to do something like that is great for your
brain anyway because it's hard to do. Because
I used to always watch karate movies and be like,
I wish I could jump. He said, you want to learn
how to do that? I said, yeah. He said, all you
got to do is run and put this leg back. I said,
like that? I said, do it in slow motion. You
know, somebody pulled that off in a UFC fight?
I seen that. It was Fabrizio Verdum versus Travis
Brown. Fabrizio Verdum opened the fight. He ran
out and did a flying sidekick to Travis's face.
And good night, Irene. No, he survived it, but
he got beat up afterwards. But this was crazy.
Oh, wow. Yeah, just back it up again. Damn. Right
from the beginning, he comes running out. Watch
this. Boom. Flying sidekick to the face. I just
said it. That's how you get shit kicked off.
That's how you get shit kicked off. I mean, that
is crazy. That's literally how you get shit kicked
off. The thing about it is no one would expect
that from Fabricio because he's a jujitsu expert.
That was hard. He must have watched my motherfucking
video. Fabricio, stop watching me. Fabricio was
a UFC champ. Yes, sir. He's a fucking beast.
His jujitsu is off the charts. He's one of the
greatest heavyweights of all time. You look at
what he's done. That guy tapped out. Cain Velasquez.
Fedor Milianenko. Who else did he tap out? He's
tapped out a bunch of, like, super legit guys.
Wow. Yeah. So he's a one. Yeah. Who else did
he tap out? He's tapped out quite a few guys.
Oh, Brandon Vera. He dominated Brandon Vera.
He had, like, there was a bunch of fights where
Fabrizio, when he was in his prime, was just
dominating people. Joe, I got a couple questions
for you. What's your favorite cereal of all time?
Maybe Captain Crunch. Me too. Yeah. But... Berry
or regular? I think regular. Berry's cool too.
I'm not mad if you got berry. You know? Isn't
there a peanut butter Captain Crunch too? Yeah,
they got that too. I think I would always go
for that. I'm a peanut butter fiend. I like peanut
butter. What's your favorite cartoon of all time?
Oh, man. I guess Bugs Bunny. Bugs Bunny? Yeah,
because I grew up with that. What's up, Doc?
When I was a kid, Bugs Bunny was full action.
A lot of shit was happening. People were getting
shot in the face. I like the rabbit kicked the
bucket. The rabbit kicked the bucket. The rabbit
kicked the bucket. I mean, there was a hunter
that was always literally trying to kill Bugs
Bunny, and he was so clever that he was relaxed
around this rabbit. Is that Yosemite Sam? No,
that was Elmer Fudd. Elmer Fudd was trying to
kill him? Elmer Fudd was the hunter. Yeah. Yosemite
Sam was like, I think he was a minor or some
shit. Wasn't he? Elmer Fudd was the dumb motherfucker.
He was the gun guy. Yeah, he always gets shot
in his own goddamn face. His face would be covered
in powder, in gunpowder. It's rabbit season.
Do you know that that's what the gun community
calls people that only buy guns for hunting?
They call them Fuds. For real? Yeah. Because
the gun community is filled with gun dorks. And
they only respect you if you're like super hardcore
knowledgeable about gun shit like velocity and
what is a 6 .5 greed more worth anything. Yeah,
like what do you hunt elk with? 300 Win Mag?
They have like how many grains of fucking is
your bullets? And so when people don't care about
that, when people are only into guns for hunting
and they're not into like all the specifics and
they're not into like, you know, pistol fucking
competitions and shit. They call them fuds. Elmer's
nephews. Yeah, because it's like the Second Amendment
is divided, just like everything is divided.
There's people that want the guns just for hunting,
and there's people that want the guns for personal
protection. Right. So it's like everything else.
Even in the world of guns, people turn on each
other. They call each other names. What did you
expect? They're a bunch of fuds. These fucking
losers over there that only want guns for meat.
And that's the National Rifle? Yeah. Well, they're
just trying to, I mean, I get what they're trying
to do. They feel like there's a not -so -hidden
agenda where people want to take away the right
of regular people to have guns. And what they're
saying is you've got to look at all the countries
where that happens. It's never good for the population.
Right. It's just not. It's just not. No, you
got to be able to protect yourself. You got to
be able to protect yourself. You can't count
on the police to be there all the time. Not in
our neighborhood. Fuck all that. Exactly. In
the hood, we with this shit. Keep guns in our
motherfucking hands. Well, you know, Killer Mike
had a lot of good conversations with Bernie Sanders
about that. Oh, yeah. Mike is sharp. He's very
sharp. And Bernie Sanders is obviously very...
anti -gun. Bernie would want to enact some sort
of sweeping gun regulations, but the reality
of the access, the amount of guns that are available,
there's no fucking way you're going to keep guns
away from people that are willing to break the
law. There's no way. They're a useful tool, and
there's too many of them. So the only solution
is let anybody have a gun. Let people have access
if they can prove to be mentally competent. And
what does that even mean? Because you could have
a doctor who's just an anti -gun activist who
decides they're going to say everyone's crazy
and no one can have a license. You could manipulate
that. But the thing is, like, it sounds wrong,
but ultimately this is what our founding fathers
thought. You've got to let people be. free to
make the choices they want to make. And if you
don't do that, you're going to fuck it up for
everybody. We've got to figure out what's right
and what's wrong. If it's wrong for everybody
to have a gun, we have to figure out a way to
make people safe. And it's not going to be through
law enforcement. There's going to be a way where,
as a community, we have to figure out how to
come together. If you're going to go house to
house and take everybody's guns, you can't do
that in America. It's too late. You maybe could
have done that like the way they did it to Australia.
Australia in the 1990s, they took away everybody's
guns after they had a mass shooting. But there's
too many guns in America. So the strategy has
got to be let's get everybody at least try to
get everybody to be more polite and kind to each
other. More responsible. More responsible. More
responsible with your weapons. Not like seek
out division. No. You know, not in forced division.
Have it for protection if needed. Yeah. Walks
off and carry a big stick. That's usually what
I do. We just need the whole country on a slight
drip of ecstasy. Just a subtle micro -dose drip,
you know? The feeling that people have when they're
all just filled with love, they don't want any
problems. And have some ABM music playing in
the background. Yeah, exactly. Not overwhelming,
just like you're on the outside of a festival.
You're out by where the port -a -potties are,
like that level of music. Yeah, coming up next,
we got Marshmello, followed by David Guetta.
Make it fun. Yeah. Make it exciting. Make it
exciting. What's the biggest crowd you've ever
performed in front of? Live 8. How big was that?
Probably like 300 ,000, 400 ,000. Jesus. Yeah.
Woo! Yes, sir. 300 ,000 or 400 ,000 human beings.
Yeah, Live 8 in London. Holy shit. What does
that feel like? You know what? When I'm on stage,
I'm in the zone, so I'm like, I pay attention
to them, but I lock into me. Right. Meaning that
I'd become somebody else, so I'm always engaged
with them, but I'm so into what I'm doing at
that time, I can't look at all them people because
that should have thrown me off. Right. Yeah,
I know what you mean. It seems like it gets,
the larger the crowds get, it gets to almost
like it stabilizes, where there's the same feeling.
10 ,000 is the same feeling as 20 ,000, right?
500. Look at the size of that crowd, though.
Oh, I couldn't handle that. That's so big. That's
Live Aid. This is Live Aid in London? Yeah. Wow.
2005. Oh, my God. That's Charlie Wilson from
the Gab Band up there with me. This crowd, if
you're just listening, this crowd is like, man,
I want to see a vision of the crowd again. Yeah,
right there, right there. This crowd is like
eight football fields long. And it's so big.
It's so big. It's so big it doesn't even make
sense. And this is 2005. Did they have any kind
of monitors where the people could watch that
were in the way, way, way back? Or are they just
hearing it? That's a good question. Because it
doesn't look like they got any behind them, but
that's just visuals. So they have to use binoculars
and shit. Jamie, go right back for a couple seconds.
Look at that one dude with the golf shirt, with
the tan golf shirt, the left side of the screen.
He's like, what the fuck am I doing here? That
bald dad looking dude. And he's like, Jesus Christ,
what is this? I didn't pay for this shit. It's
getting on that. He's in an argument right now
with his girlfriend. He's like, what the fuck
am I doing with my life? Look at his face. Look
at the old school selfie though. Yeah, old school.
You have to put a camera in front of your own
face. Look how crazy this is. This is the biggest
crowd I've ever seen. What's the biggest crowd
that, well, no, when Be Real was on, and he was
telling us about, what was it, Woodstock, that
second Woodstock they did? Yeah, 1999. That was
like half a million. Remember that? He showed
the pictures of that? Glastonbury was big, too.
How big is that? I did that with the Gorillaz.
Pull that up, Glastonbury, Life of the Plastic
Beach. Did the Gorillaz, did they have their
animation going on in the back? Yep. Oh, my God.
Is that it? Holy fuck. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Look at that. I'll be forgetting about this shit,
Joe, because it's like Michael Jordan. He didn't
get to watch his highlights until he was finished
with his career. I still got some more games
to play, so it's kind of hard to watch these
highlights. But back up and watch that. Back
up and watch. Let me see that again. A little
bit before that. Right there. That's it. Play
it from there. What the fuck, dude? What the
fuck? That shit don't even look real. It looks
like 10. Football field's long. But see, if you
notice, see how calm I am up there? I'm not letting
that make me so... I'm standing in pocket. You
do have a diamond -encrusted apparatus around
your microphone that says Snoop Dogg on it. That
gives you a little confidence. Fuck Thanos. My
motherfucking... Go back to the piano play. Hold
on. Let me see that thing. Fuck Thanos. Look
at that. Fuck Thanos' glove. What would you even
call that? A mic cover? When you buy that shit
from your jeweler, how do you order one of those?
That's a part of my microphone. You can just
sit the microphone down and all that shit. Who
made that for you? A jeweler? Yeah, King Ice.
And I put my hands around it like a ring. That's
amazing. That's amazing. So they can see me.
From everywhere. See my band, my piano player?
Yes. He more into it than anybody. Oh, yeah.
Look at him. That is the craziest crowd I've
ever seen. That and, like I said, would be real
footage. I did Glastonbury by myself, but I did
one with the Gorillaz. How old were you when
you hit? 1991. I was 20. 20. how hard was it
to just, like, maintain your sanity while you
were becoming insanely famous? It was slow. It
wasn't fast. It wasn't fast? No, because the
attention was on Dr. Dre, and we was just, like,
pieces around him because he was leaving NWA.
Right. So he was the one getting most of the
attention until the music came out, and then
people heard me and was, like, you know, attracted
to my voice and my style. Which made us do my
record. And then from there, then you can start
feeling the success because now I'm on my own.
It's my own record. It's not his record. It's
mine. Right. I got to do press. I got to do TV.
I got to do interviews. I got to do shows. So
we became like, damn, this shit is a job. Yeah.
But in a sense out of, I mean, you were like
a protege, right? Yeah. That's amazing. To be
able to be a young rapper and have Dr. Dre as
like a mentor. from the beginning stages, from
shaping and molding, from Dr. Dre, DOC, Warren
G, to all the people that helped me, you know.
Yeah, and us as fans. Yeah. That's how we took
it in. As a fan, I was like, oh, okay, this guy
is in with Dr. Dre, so this must be like similar,
at least similar quality, similar mindset, similar
artistic level. when groups get together and
support. That really didn't happen in rock and
roll. That happened more in the hip -hop community
than anything. Hip -hop artists would do guest
spots on each other's albums regularly. That's
not that common in rock and roll. That was way
more a hip -hop thing. Yeah, because we love
each other. That's why I say the East Coast,
West Coast shit wasn't really real, because if
you check facts... artists was doing with each
other before during and after yes yeah it's just
unfortunate that it became a narrative and then
like young guys coming up probably thought they
wanted to support that narrative to ensure their
position in the social chain i don't think that
that narrative will ever pop up again because
yeah it was the worst of the worst and now people
loving the way it feel now to where all of our
influences are a part of everything meaning that
There's a lot of West Coast influence in the
East. There's a lot of East Coast influence in
the West and the South and likewise. It's like
we all complement each other now. That's what
it should be for everybody with everything we
do. And as comedians, we're really lucky that
that never happened. It never became an East
Coast, West Coast thing. We would joke around
about guys from the cellar or guys from the comedy
store or whatever, but everybody, when they met
each other, it was all hugs and love and everybody's
happy that there's someone out there doing it.
There's not a whole lot of us. When it comes
to stand -up comedians, there's not that many
of us overall in the world. So to not be supportive
of each other is fucking stupid. To not be supportive
of the up -and -coming ones is horrible. that's
like suicidal yeah because it's your sport and
y 'all exactly y 'all the stars of the sports
y 'all got to keep the spirit alive and you get
a chance to set like what you're doing you get
a chance to set the standard for how young guys
coming up and young girls coming up you can see
someone who's like cool and friendly and lives
like a wonderful existence where like you you
have managed to navigate the waters of like Being
a very famous person in the most masterful way
like everyone loves you man It's there's something
about that the choices you've made and the way
You've gotten to where you've gotten and who
you are now. There's so much hope for young people
In terms of the ability to achieve a state of
mind where everywhere you go, it's smiles and
hugs. Smiles and hugs. That's what Snoop Dogg
has figured out. That's what you've figured out.
You've figured out to get to a state where most
of your existence is smiles and hugs. That's
love. That's beautiful you say that because I
get all that from my mama. I was touched by an
angel. I had an angel for a mother. That's what
she taught me. She taught me real love. I'm just
an example of what she wanted me to be. So I
love hearing that. That's beautiful. I really
love hearing that because this is all that she
wanted me to be, and this is all I'm going to
be. That's all you should be. Why be anything
else? It's awesome. Why? We were so lucky, you
know? We're lucky that we get to live in this
strange world. We're lucky that we get to be
in a job that lets you be free. I mean, you showed
up with a boombox plan. I kind of want you to
play that video that we just saw. I'll play anything
you want. You just let me know. It's a video.
He can pull it up. But for the folks at home,
Snoop is the first person ever to show up in
the studio with a boombox blaring his own music.
Blaring his own music, just smooth. Slid it in
on you one time. Wearing a silk gypsy bandana.
Promotions. Beautiful jewelry. It was like if
I ever wanted to meet Snoop Dogg, it was the
best way ever to meet him. Because people might
not know. You and I have chatted on the phone
real quick, but this is the first time we've
met Matt. Right, up close and personal. Yeah,
and hung out. And we shared a room together.
Yes, yes. Full of smoke and drink. Here's one
more toast to the boogie, Joe. Yes, sir. Salute,
my brother. This is the group with me, Ice Cube,
Too Short, and E -40. We're called Mount Westmore.
Yeah. This was the first single off of the Algorithm
album. It's called Big Subwoofer. Where we going,
dog? Shit, we're going to go to Planet Snoopeter
where the bitches is blue, man. Snoopeter? Man,
why Snoopy dog always get to fly? I'm the flyest
motherfucker in here, though. Hey, you a shooter,
man. No, I'm the shooter. I say we just get the
fuck up out of here. Y 'all ready? Let's do it.
Let's go. Yosemite. Got my 40 on me, that's my
mini -me. Damn near anything I want, I can afford
it. Never hustle backwards, always forward. I
can multitask, always on the grind. I can walk
and chew gum at the same time. I ain't on hiatus,
I ain't missing an action. I'm the center of
attention, bitch, the main attraction. When I
enter the turf, when I pull up, people gather
around me like an ice cream truck. People always
ask me what I do for a living. I wear many hats.
I'm something like lead. I love licorice sex.
Booty and breasts. A couple stretch marks and
cellulite on her flesh. She got her legs open
like a field goal pile. Booty softer than the
King Hawaiian roll. Booty softer than the King
Hawaiian roll. You know about them soft Hawaiian
rolls? You've had a few. Big sub, woofer bouncing
like a trampoline. Glass shake when I roll past
the scene. Candy apple paint dripping glassy
green. Everybody eating, you can ask the team.
Faster than me. Speakers bumping, tags is clean.
Keep me something to smoke on. Bad bitch to poke
on. Bass hit like a earthquake. You niggas hold
on. I hit the block and roll on. My bitch got
ass like two 18s. Her favorite two short song
is in those jeans. Shake it, baby, if you like
this song. Do a nasty dance every time they turn
it on. It's got more bass than bass. We'll be
right back. We'll be right back. big titty hooker
cocaine cooker rooftop looker looked out and
saw tj hooker jumped off the roof like superfly
snooker you know me i'm up in it like a booger
then i treat the bitch like some dice and i shook
her i heard this youngin screaming like a woman
yelling that they coming nigga we ain't running
it's a new day still got the ak if these bitches
want to take it back to 88 turn the music down
Before we lock in horns. Keep the party going.
It's a false alarm. Always. Yeah, everything
has like a pop at the end of it, you know? He's
always been so distinct. That's my OG, you know
what I mean? That was the guy before me that
I always going to hold a special place in my
top five. Always. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Now, when
he came out, there was an angry edge to the way
he would rap. That was infectious. It was great
if you were on the treadmill. It was great if
you was on the track selling that dope. I'm sure.
Inspirational. Inspirational. Yeah. Music can
be inspirational as fuck. Music is almost like
a drug. If you could sell the feeling that you
get, like if a really good song comes on, the
feeling that you get out of that, like, oh, shit.
If you could get that out of a drug, you would
definitely take it. Matter of fact, I wasn't
even thinking when you was talking about the
East Coast, West Coast thing. Murder music, find
that. I just dropped that yesterday. That is
going to show you where hip -hop is at right
now. That song is also on the Algorithm album.
I know it sounds like a false plug, but the shit,
watch when you see it. It's going to show you
where we at right now with hip -hop. Turn that
up. We up in this motherfucker. On some murder,
murder. Kill, kill shit. Yeah. Maybe the butcher
Jada gets them busted. Murder music just for
this type of shit. They could ban us. Cause this
what they gonna play when they wipe they prints
off the hammers. I'm really like that. I ain't
just write this shit for the camera. I did it
in my city. What Michael Vick did in Atlanta.
Cash saved for insurance. Them bad days was a
forest. Still hood. Roach clips in the ashtrays
of my foreign. In LA. R &B bitch drunk with her
hands around me. The night Swiss introduced me
to Nas at a Grammy party. When my strip introduced
me to hard I had grams around me. A star player
never asked for the bar they just playing around
me. Niggas heard I took a shot. They was asking
if I was good. I looked the shooter right in
his eyes when that trigger got pulled. Huh? Murder
music. Murder music. Murder music. Murder music.
Yeah. Yeah. Murder music. Murder music. Murder
music. Some come through the water. Some come
through the border. Some of them get caught,
but that's depending on the porter. Old niggas
hiding. Young niggas sliding. I'm being a man,
just protecting and providing. My only concern
is if it cook right. My chain yellow, way the
diamonds set up. It make it look white. Kill
you for nothing, cause they petty. Cutting the
dog food with the fetty. They young, but they
ready. No crowd. I get my applaud off the beat.
I'm a boss. I'll make sure all of us eat. Say
a couple funerals will bring a war to a cease.
And remember, it ain't no reward for the streets.
This is not normal. Dickie Suits is how we dress
formal. The way I'm riding this track's like
a porno. All right then, what's up then? I'm
busting every controlled substance. I touched
it, I know it's disgusting. I'm just stacking.
Call me El Guapo. And I bet you never had a brick
from El Chapo. Tuesday, I just play the crib
and make tacos. A lot of niggas front. like they
nice but they not though y 'all spoke that up
now soak that up they done pulled my coat the
goat got up what's up these are three elites
east coast rappers right here man it's 2021.
come on buster rhymes kill this I only got time
to murder shit. I bang them while deafening both
ears. When I'm making niggas black and rep couches
and throw chairs. At times I be unleashing a
raft that most fear. I don't discriminate. I
even body close peers. See, I'm suggesting most
you niggas should get this step into the rear.
And fuck what most you niggas are taught. I don't
care. If you don't rep it right, you shouldn't
come around here. Adjust my level up. Make sure
my niggas sound clear. They want to stop and
want to steer. They hate that I'm the best and
it's greatness. And it's pointless to compare.
You need to describe this jewelry I write to
save this shit on a server. And type the way
that I speak for moving space on a cursor. I'm
not an advocate for violence, but push me. I'm
going to push it further. The script. Hand on
my hip, squeezing the grip a little firmer. These
dumb niggas don't realize that it's better to
be a learner. Stupid nip. When you don't, that's
when you get the feeling of burner. Shut the
fuck up. It's better to be watchers, listeners,
and observers. Because if you not, you fuck around.
That's how niggas like you get murdered. Murder
music. Murder music. Murder music. Murder music.
Yeah. Murder music. Murder music. Murder music.
Yeah. Murder music. Murder music. Didn't Busta
Rhymes just lose a ton of weight? He got really
fit, right? Have you seen that, Jamie? Busta
Rhymes, he took some before and after pictures,
too. He documented the whole experience. Did
he? Yeah, he documented it, I think. We're going
to try to find a way to help him get that put
out so people can see that, his whole transformation.
I hope he puts it out where everybody can see
it, like YouTube or something. Yeah, put that
out. Yeah, if you see the pictures, it's remarkable.
I mean, he went from looking like a guy who's,
you know, getting a little heavy. To physically
fit. Yeah, to ripped, to Wiz Khalifa ripped.
Right. He's ripped. Super strong. He looks amazing.
Like, he actually went all the way to the end.
He did that. He made it to the finish line. Some
guys get close. Like, look at the difference.
I mean, he's got a six pack. That's crazy. If
you look at the one picture on the left, he looks
like he's, you know, many pounds overweight and
not exercising. And next to it, it's him with
a six pack. Like, he went all the way across
the finish line. Like, that's what every fat
guy wants. Like, what do you want out of this
workout program? Like, if you were working with
a fitness trainer, like, put that picture up.
This is what I did for Busta Rhymes. I can do
this for you. He'd be like, oh, fuck, I'm in.
What do you got to do? Just listen to everything
I say. You're going to eat everything I tell
you to eat, and we're going to fucking do this.
Are you ready? And if you did listen to that
fucking guy and did what Busta Rhymes did. Here's
the thing about six packs. You don't get that
shit for free. You could say that you could lose
some weight and your abs will show. But if your
abs are bullshit under your no fat body, it's
not going to look good. Busta Rhymes has big
ab muscles. Those look big. That's strength.
That's strength. Yeah. He broke that shit down.
Yeah. That's not like a skinny waist where you
see a little bit of abs, but there's no power
behind it. That's a powerful six pack. That's
how fuck you up six pack. Shout out to Busta
Busta for being committed to getting this shit
together. Yeah, shout out to Busta Rhymes. Doing
that and putting that out there for everybody
to see that that's possible, that you can go
from being overweight and not feeling good about
yourself to being shredded. Yeah. Fuck yeah.
Good shit. We all get better from that. And that's
what people have to understand. When you see
someone succeeding, the people that haven't succeeded
yet, sometimes there's a tendency for them to
get angry at people like yourself or anybody
that has succeeded. And they get upset. But they
need to see the struggle. If they see the struggle,
then they can understand it a little bit better
to see that it was hard work that was put in
to get into that point. And they just got to
believe that one day it's going to be them too.
The angriest guys are all the guys that think
it's not going to happen to them. Those are the
guys that they think everybody else is going
to make it and they're not going to make it.
And it's a self -fulfilling prophecy. I wish
I could have said that clearer. Self -fulfilling
prophecy. Self -fulfilling prophecy. Yeah, because
they create so much bad energy because they're
worried that everybody's going to fuck them over,
that everybody just wants to avoid them. Yeah.
Shake, rattle, and roll. But like I was saying,
that is 2021. That's Benny the Butcher, Jadakiss,
Busta Rhymes, Snoop Dogg. Three East Coast rappers
and one West Coast rapper all on one song, pushing
and promoting peace through that murder music.
And that's just showing you the mind state of
hip hop today that we've put so far past that,
that that's where we at. That's beautiful. That's
beautiful. Hip hop in general. I mean, if you
really stop and think about it, it's one of the
most recent art forms in the world in terms of,
like, something that it's one of the most impactful,
right? I mean, think about how many songs are
used for, like, how many, like, Frankie Edgar
to this day comes out to Biggie, you know? I
mean, how much influence has hip -hop had? I
think we got six. inductees in the Hall of Fame,
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. That's amazing. I
think we got Public Enemy, NWA, Tupac, Biggie,
LL, Jay -Z. Right? There should be a lot more.
Yeah, but I mean, it's a start. You got to start
somewhere. It's beautiful that that's a start,
but they should go back to Cool G Rap. They should
get Gangstar in there. True. True indeed. There's
a lot. That should be in there. But the problem
with award shows is without award shows, with
awards, how many people are deciding awards?
The people have spoken. The people have said
that this art form that really didn't even emerge
until the late 70s, right? When was the first
ever recognized hip -hop? What was the first
rap music? What year? It was before the Sugarhill
Gang. It was people that was making hip -hop
that probably didn't have record deals. And it
was people that was rapping on songs, too, like
Rudy Ray Moore and Clarence Reed, Blowfly. Blowfly
had a song called Rap Dirty. See what year that
came out. Rudy Ray Moore was a comic, right?
Yeah, but Rudy Ray Moore was a comic, but he
made music, and his music had rhymes and riddles
and shit in it. What year was that? Early 70s.
So Blowfly was one of the first ones to have
a real song when he was rapping. What year did
Rap Dirty come out? 1980? So as comedians, we
have a godfather. Our godfather of comedy is
Lenny Bruce. That's the guy. And that's Richard
Pryor's guy. Exactly. And Richard Pryor was the
great one. Richard Pryor was the guy who took
the original guy that started out the Hoist Gracie,
right? And he took it to a whole new place, to
a place that transcended everything. And then
everything else came from there. Is there someone
like that from hip -hop? Is there one person
that you look back and say, that's the Hoist
Gracie of hip -hop? It would probably be Hollywood.
Because Russell Simmons just gave me some game
on Hollywood. Hollywood and then... Who's Hollywood?
He's one of the first DJ MCs to rap and DJ and
MC at the same time. His name is Hollywood out
of New York. And I'm just getting my history
on him. And I'm going to sit down with him and
do a one -on -one conversation with him so I
get the full insight. But I know Russell Simmons
told me he was one of the forefathers to this
shit. And then Kool Herc definitely. And Kool
Herc had a rapper that was with him that was
rapping. So those three are like the trifectas
to creating this thing called hip -hop. And then
from there, it's Sugar Hill, and then everything
that follows. It's everything that follows what's
starting. with sugar hill run dmc houdini sugar
hill is recognized as being like the first first
first round the first record like the first shot
fired the first clean yeah record that was shot
around the world that made hip -hop officially
a real thing right and then run dmc made it motherfucking
official ll cool j came behind and made a superficial
public enemy NWA. Changed everything. Ice -T.
Yes. KRS -One. Oh, my God. Biz Markie. Big Daddy
Kane. H -U -S -T -L -E -R. Hustler. I would listen
to that when I was delivering newspapers, too.
Six in the morning, police at my door. Fresh
Adidas squeaking across the bathroom floor. Dude,
I've been an Ice -T fan since the 80s as well.
Ice -T is my OG. Have you ever had him on your
podcast? No, I definitely would, though. I would
love to. You never had iced tea on? No, I would.
I get nervous around people that I was like,
you know, those giant fans of when I was a kid.
Like legit, that's the people that make me nervous.
It's like I can meet people when I'm an adult.
And it makes sense to me. But when I think about
the people that I was, like, giant fans of when
I was a kid and then I meet them, it's just weird.
You're still a kid to them. Yeah, I'm still a
kid. I'm the same way. When I'm around Magic
Johnson and, you know, people like that. Even
around, like, Eddie Murphy. Eddie Murphy didn't
kick it a couple times, but I'm just different
around him because that motherfucker. He make
me nervous. He was the one. When I was a kid,
like, this motherfucker was. The funniest nigga
ever. He makes me nervous. And for him to know
who I am, to have me come over his house, that
shit threw me off. Like, damn, Eddie Murphy want
to hang out with me, man. I'm nervous as a motherfucker
right now. I only got to meet Eddie once because
I'm friends with Charlie, and it was at a resort
in Maui, just random. And I ran into Charlie's
cousin. I'm like, hey, what are you doing here,
man? And he goes, I'm here with Charlie. Eddie's
here. He goes, you want to come by and say hi?
I go, where are they? He goes, they're having
lunch right now. I'm like, oh, my God. I went
over and sat down and I was hanging out with
Charlie Murphy and Eddie Murphy. And I was like,
this is the craziest shit I've ever experienced
in my life. The Murphy boys? It didn't even seem
real. Eddie Murphy's a guy that you talk to,
you're like, I can't believe you're right there.
You know? That's my guy. Let's see if the OG
gonna pick up. He probably on the set. You trying
to call him? On the set of the SUV show. CSI.
Don't he be doing that? Who's on that? Ice -T.
Oh, yeah. Special Victims Unit. That's what it
is. SVI. S -U -N -I -T. S -V -U. You don't know
it. I don't. There's always somebody getting
done bad on that shirt. Every time I look up,
there's somebody getting done bad. They gave
Ice -T a day job. He getting that money. Exactly.
Ice getting that bread. For real. I seen him
on a commercial with Stone Cold Steve. He's done
everything. But when I was a kid, Ice -T was,
you know, I mean. He was the epitome. He was
one of the original. From 6 in the morning, I
mean, and then when he started doing heavy metal
music and he played Cop Killer. Wow. People don't
understand how dangerous that was to do that
pre -internet. At that time? At that time. Like,
here's something to consider. When you see that
there's good cops and bad cops, and you see a
lot of the bad cop videos on Instagram and YouTube
and all that stuff that comes out. Wow. You get
a chance to see them now. During the Ice -T days
when he made Cop Killer, you didn't get to see
shit. Hell no. Nobody had a camera. So he was
taking a chance. He was taking a wild chance.
He was taking a chance with his life, too. Legitimately.
Like, they had to be thinking about taking his
life. There had to be, like, a few bad cops.
That was the first time somebody had really spoke
up. And WA had spoke, but they didn't say cop,
killer. Exactly. They said, fuck the police.
This motherfucker said cop. And he had the white
crowd with him because he was on some, like.
Syndicate shit. He was playing metal. It was
metal. Yeah. What was the name of that band again?
Rhyme Syndicate. Rhyme Syndicate. That was his...
That was his... That was Art Eagle. Yeah. So
he would do that, and it was like... He just
had a different way of expressing himself. So
he had his... ice tea records and then he had
the records that he did where he was screaming
metal music what he noticed i'm a cop killer
what he noticed was when he was making them hood
records and he started doing shows his fans Look
like that metal audience. Yes. And I feel like
he probably was like, you know what, I need to
make something for you motherfuckers. Since y
'all want me to be rocked the fuck out, let me
rock out one time. I think he likes it too, though.
Yeah. It's both of those things. It's that he
likes it too. He got to love it the way he was
doing it. He was screaming and doing all the
shit that they do, rocking out. There was a guy
that I used to do taekwondo with, and he was
a cop. And he liked that song. And me and him
were talking. you know he's a black dude too
and we were talking i go does that song with
you he goes no he goes i love that song he's
just like can't sing around other cops so it's
like so in your car you're a cop and in your
car you're driving around going i'm a cop killer
like he like excuse me turn that shit down and
he's a cop That's fucking crazy. It was hilarious.
We were laughing so hard because we were like,
this is so crazy. But that's what music do, though.
And break those barriers. Yeah. And break all
walls. It's also like when you are hearing a
song from that perspective, this perspective
is about a person who's literally afraid of being
murdered by a cop. Right. Because that has happened.
We all know that's happened. So when you hear
that, you put yourself in the position of that
person singing that song. That's what everybody
does. One of the things that everybody loves
about a great song, you know. Kick in the door,
wave in the 4 -4. All you heard was, Papa, don't
hit me no more. You imagine you're the person
saying those things. Right. That's what's happening
for the people that are tuning in and listening.
It's so valuable. The engagement of knowing that
that is you when you listen to the song. That's
why you're so into it because you feel like he's
talking about me. And that you could imagine
you, if you were at your best, being that guy.
You can imagine if you get your shit together,
you could be talking like Biggie and making everybody
look stupid. Right. You know? That shit crazy.
One night we was in L .A. and it was like we
was in Hollywood somewhere. And Pac had Biggie
with him. And we was just on stage rapping and
shit. And everybody was freestyling Warren G,
Biggie. Pac and myself. It may be some video
footage of that. See if you can find that. Biggie,
Snoop, Tupac, Warren G, freestyling in Hollywood.
Wow. Yeah, that shit was hard. And we didn't
really know cuz at the time. So we was looking
like, who is this fat motherfucker rapping? When
he started rapping, niggas was like, shh. When
them words came out of his mouth, motherfucker
stopped looking at what he looked like and was
like, shit, he hard as fuck. One of my favorite
videos in all of hip hop is Biggie on the corner
in Brooklyn when he was 17 years old. Have you
ever seen that? Yeah. Let's see this shit right
here. There's people in the crowd. Tupac and
Biggie on stage. Wow. Corrupt. B -Tip. K -Dub.
Do you think when it comes to people who... He
wasn't even on Death Row Records. This is the
crazy part. They go Biggie right there. And what
year was this? 93. He wasn't even on Death Row
Records. He was just my homeboy that came through
to fuck with me. And he brought Cuz Woody. See,
now Biggie on the mic. They go Warren G right
there. Technique. He had an explosive style.
He on the West Coast. This is in L .A. How good
is his style? He rapping over Warren G .B. Give
me some volume, Jamie. Missed it. See if you
can find that video of him when he was 17 years
old on a street corner. That's one of my favorites
because you see like a dude who's like, you know
Just a couple of years removed from being a kid.
Well, see people don't even know that exists,
right? You just gave us some exclusive shit right
there. That's on YouTube, but they don't know
it exists. Here it is. This is my favorite. Give
me some volume He's in front of a grocery store
folks The rhythm, but just the... You imagine?
Being out there and seeing a 17 -year -old kid
rapping like that, you're like, oh, it's over.
It's over. That was so good, I need a cigar.
You ever smoke regular cigars? Nah, I don't fuck
with those. They give me head rush. I gotta have
my rush. Imagine someone being that good at 17
years old. Mm -hmm. I know a bunch of cats like
that. The video we played before only has 4 ,000
views on it. Wow. That's what I'm trying to tell
you, Joe. 4 ,000 views? And the only reason why
I'm saying this is because I seen it one night
on accident. I only seen a little piece of it,
and I was like, damn, I remember that night.
That was like some cool shit we had did. You
know, Snoop Dogg, young Snoop Dogg before he
had long hair. So, what is this? This one has
4 ,600 views. It says, Tupac and Biggie on stage,
1993 rare. Just try to find that on YouTube and
it'll pop up. It has 4 ,612 views as of today.
I bet you next time we talk, that motherfucker
gonna have 400 -something thousand views. Yeah,
it's today's November 11th, 2021. This is 93
when we all cool. Right. We all chilling. Right.
We on the West Coast. Tupac brought Biggie with
him. We rocking. We let Cub get down with us.
We go in the back, smoke, chill, hang out. It's
beautiful. When did it go sideways? Once Pac
got shot. When he got shot, he felt like they
did it. And this was when he got shot in New
York. Yeah. Before he got shot in Vegas. There
you go right there. Yeah. So he felt like someone
from the West Coast was involved. No. Or from
the East Coast, right? Excuse me. Yes. And later
information came out that the people that he
thought did it had nothing to do with it. So
by him accusing people of it, it kind of set
things off. And then by him being bailed out
by Death Row Records and Death Row Records adding
more gasoline to the fire and him being a part
of the most gangsterous label in the world that
his opposition didn't want no issues with. It
only egged it on as opposed to, let's find a
resolution. Let's keep making it more of a problem.
In hindsight, we should have been sitting him
down saying, no, let's not go after him. Let's
just make great music. You're on bail right now.
He wasn't even out of jail. He was out on bail
when he got killed. It's obviously... you're
dealing with giant cultural influences and big
business, too, because the business of rap is
big business. But there's comparisons to that
and what's happening with other countries. There
really is. Yeah, man, them was my friends, man.
The people can all get along. But, Joe, did you
see that? Did you see how pure that was? Yes,
I did. Yeah, I did. We were all young. I was
22. Yeah. Pac was 22. We was all the same age.
So it was like, this is us at 22 years old being
young MCs, competitive. You see the spirit he
was rapping when he was rapping like he was battling
the same way he was rapping on the corner. Same
spirit. But that's what hip hop was. We enjoy
when somebody could come and hold his own. Yes.
But what's really crazy is if that's 1993, that
is at the very most. A 10 -year -old art form.
15 at the most. 15 at the most. Yeah, 15. Like
where it really emerges. Right. So within 15
years, you have from almost no influence to almost
the most influence. And depending on what month
that was, either I had just caught the case or
I hadn't caught the case. And the way I'm looking...
It don't look like I caught a case. Wow. Just
by the way I'm moving. Yeah, I'm looking at my
spirit and my body. You're not thinking about
it. Yeah, and when I caught the case, all that
kind of shit was over with. Right. So it's like
Sugar Hill, Run DMC. Def Jam. Def Jam. And then
N .W .A. Well, Ice -T's in the mix there as well.
Too Short, Ghetto Boys. West Coast, South. Yeah,
and Cool G Rap. Right? There's a lot. There's
a lot of different shit going on. And then, of
course, Wu -Tang Clan. Right. They come out after
me. Yeah. They come out around a month after
me or probably the same. They came out a little
bit after me. And then, you know, that almost
becomes a cult. Like, Wu -Tang Clan's almost
a cult. And then you can't forget. They're almost
a religion. Then you can't forget. You can't
forget Rockefeller. Can't forget that. You can't
forget No Limit. No. You can't forget. Rough
Riders. Right. You can't forget Murder, Inc.
There's certain motherfuckers. You can't forget
Bad Boy. Mm -hmm. There's certain motherfuckers
that just took the motherfucking rap a lot. Mm
-hmm. So, so deaf. Certain motherfuckers just
came and just said, we got the rap game right
now. We got this. Yeah. Well, like what you were
saying about supporting artists, about all...
I do think that hip -hop might have been the
first real big... Group of artists that supported
other artists openly watch this who I'm gonna
give you a question See if you can answer who's
the first rapper? To redo another rapper song
in hip -hop Wow I'll give you the year 1993 Was
it you sure was Snoop Dogg we did Lottie Dottie
Slick Rick. Oh, that's right. Slick Rick. That's
a Slick Rick. Yeah, that's right. That's right.
You did. I'm the first rapper to remake another
rapper's song and pay homage to him while they
were alive. That had never been done before.
Back then it was called biting if you took somebody
else's lyrics or songs. But what I did was I
broke the rule by showing love and saying, no,
I'm going to remake it because I love him so
much and I love this song so much. Well, when
you do that. It doesn't hurt anybody, and it
helps everybody. When you pretend it's your own
idea, that's when it hurts everybody. It hurts
you. It hurts them. It's the first of its kind,
and I chose East Coast to redo. I could have
did an Ice -T six in the morning or Eazy -E or
Ice Cube, but I chose to go that way because
my spirit was saying that was the most influential
to me. My workout music used to be Colors. Ooh.
When that movie came out with Sean Penn, remember
that movie? I am a knight. Oh, my. Psychopath
talking. That was... Big fella. Who's that? Can
you see him? Is that Shaq? Mm -hmm. He's frozen.
He's got some bad 5G. Something happened. When
you going to a prom? His image is not moving.
Is he still connected? It's a poor connection.
Ah, poor connection. It's not in here. There
you go. Big Daddy. Shaq? Shaq? What's going on?
What's happening, brother? How are you? What's
going on? Put a microphone on him, Stoop. I'm
good, Shaq. I got my spirit right, man. I can't
complain. Hey, you know I love you, too. I know
what this call is. You just checking my spirit,
making sure I'm right. That's what big brothers
supposed to do, making sure your brother is right.
You know I love you. I'm good. I'm straight.
We sent mama home. My spirit is right. I'm back
doing what she wouldn't want me to do, be out
there making people smile and having love in
there. All right, boy. I love you, boy. Love
you, too. And I'm knocking that out for you tomorrow,
too, for the show. I'm getting the first four
episodes out the way. All right, good. I appreciate
it. Love you, boy. Turn to mommy. Shaq, good
to see you, friend. Take care, brother. Peace
and love. Shaq got a big -ass American flag on
his shirt. Where the fuck is he going? Shaq?
You know, we talked about this the other day.
Shaq's a sheriff. He's like a deputy. You know
what they say in the hood? What? There's two
motherfuckers that's controlling the marketing,
branding TV world right now. Who? Shaq and Snoop.
Every commercial you see is either Shaq or Snoop.
Really? Watch TV. There's a lot of Shaq commercials.
That's a fact. A lot of Snoop commercials, too.
Just watch. Just keep watching. Damn. But do
you feel in any way constricted, connected to
those kind of people, corporate America type
people? Nah, they love me. They love me because
I don't know how to do them. I do me. And that's
what they be missing. They don't want another
corny motherfucker up in there. They want somebody
with some style, some grace, and some flair.
that can give their brands, you know, the shit
that they miss it. Do you think you could talk
me through the making of this blunt? Yeah, first
thing you do is you got to take the edge of it,
unroll it. And you kind of cut into it with your
fingernail? Yeah, and then you un -gut it. You
got to gut it, take all of the tobacco out because
we don't want no tobacco in there. Why don't
these backwoods people just admit the truth that
most of their cigarettes are sold to people who
want to turn them into blunts? Well... right
they making their money they don't give a damn
but they should probably like how about they
make something with no tobacco in the motherfucker
huh right yeah cut the shit just one they call
wink wink yeah cut the shit because otherwise
people are growing tobacco for no reason like
what are you gonna do with the tobacco that's
on that That pad that's in front of us. Throw
that shit away? Exactly. That's what I'm saying.
That's ridiculous. That shouldn't be in there.
We have a problem. We have a communication problem.
San Antonio, we have a problem. Like Swisher
Sweets. If they just sold the outside. They would
win. They would win because they could sell it
for almost the same price. And less to work.
Because less to work. And they wouldn't have
to grow any tobacco for the inside. Just a rat.
What are we doing? So I put the bud on the inside.
Is this a revelation? They sell wraps, but they're
different. Yeah, I don't mean wraps. I mean sell
the actual outside tobacco leaf. I know, they
do. They sell the leaf? Yeah, it's just different.
But they shouldn't sell the inside. Like if they
only sold the outside, they said blunt wraps.
Just call it blunt wraps. They got something
called Fanta Leafs in the leaf. Who does it?
Lots of people. No, but the Swisher Sweets. Oh,
them in particular? Or Backwoods? Nope. No. They
probably don't. They got one called the Fanta
Leaf where it's a big -ass, long -ass, big leaf,
and you just tear off what you need as you go.
You know what I'm saying? And a lot of the Jamaicans,
the rosters, they do that. They keep that Fanta
Leaf with them, and they pull it out and roll
accordingly without having to do all of that.
That's the way to go. Right. It's interesting
that tobacco has become a thing in our society,
in our culture, that we associate with being
negative. But if you go to these shamanic cultures,
it's a part of all these psychedelic rituals.
I used to work for a company called Blunt Wraps.
Did you see Snoop Dogg Blunt Wraps? I used to
work for it. But he pulled up Swisher Sweets.
They have an actual blunt wrap that's made out
of sandpaper. I'm years behind. I'm sorry, Swisher
Tweets. They stole our idea. I was with a company
called Blunt Wraps. Look that up. See if Snoop
Dogg Blunt Wraps. Pull that up. I did photos
and all kinds of shit. See? Well, there's probably
a lot of people thinking that. I mean, it's not
a... I'm a moron, and I figured it out ten years
after everybody else. It took you 10? Yeah, right
now. I was like, why don't they just sell the
papers? Meanwhile, they have a whole fucking
business. They probably ship a million blunt
wraps a month. And I'm like, why don't they just
sell blunt wraps? They're different, though.
There's a market for the way it comes. Right.
There's an old school thing. It's like operating
a transmission that's a manual, right? Do you
have three phones? What's happening there? I
got three. Phones, two for the hose and one for
the load. To see a man sit there with three phones,
and by the way, none of them have that, like,
screen turn off at 30 seconds mode. No, I don't
know. I ain't got nothing to hide. All three,
but they're, like, glowing in your face constantly.
The screen never goes dark. You got three phones
running simultaneously. get a bar this joke oh
my god that's hilarious yes sir not only is someone
not like busting out their phone on the show
but to bust out three of them snoop you're so
next level thank you joe i'm so glad you're around
people like you are so important like like legitimately
important because the way things go good or bad
the way things go happy or sad angry or happy
a lot of that has to do with people like you
When a person like you is real fun and happy
and so many people love them and that's what
you spread, camaraderie and happiness. If people
go to see Snoop Dogg, they're of a similar mindset.
And even if they weren't previously, they adopt
a similar mindset because they see you having
so much fun and giving out so much love and everybody
embracing you. And they realize at a certain
time in the night, they realize. I can do this
too. We can all do this. We can all behave to
everybody that we know and we meet and we come
into contact with the same way Snoop Dogg does.
And that's beautiful you say that because November
8th was my mom's funeral. And it was such a beautiful
celebration of her life. And the way people left
there, you know, speaking about my mom and speaking
about the way they felt just gave me more reason
to continue. to keep doing what I'm supposed
to be doing and not be sad and not be down, but
be thankful that I had 50 years with an angel.
That's beautiful. You know what I mean? Yes,
I do know. That's beautiful. And that's what
we make you do. We make you reflect on great
moments in life, and it makes you think about
the blessing of being here as opposed to the
frustration of not having them anymore. Yes.
You know what it does? It makes you sensitive.
it doesn't mean that your path is clearly paved.
Like sometimes when you're sensitive, you can
go into paranoia and fear or you can go into
love and acceptance and camaraderie and just
like recognizing the finite nature of our existence.
It's so limited. I'm 54. There's no way I'm anything
less than halfway dead. There's no way. You look
20 -something, man. You look 20 -something. You
look good. Science. Me and my boy Kevin was like,
we pulled the jackets out and we seen you in
real life. We was like, damn, he buff as a motherfucker.
I don't know. He probably going to have problems
taking his jacket off. This motherfucker going
to be tight on him. You look good, Joe. I think
I'll fit in it. Thank you very much. And that
takes a lot when we get to the fifth floor to
still be dedicated to working out, making sure
our body is still on point. Because I just got
to the fifth floor. Well, I figured out somewhere
along the line. that there's like a part of it
I want to look good part of it I want to be strong
because I'm insecure but there's also part of
it that I realized that I can be my best person
when I can control my own demons and the way
I control my own demons is I have to like conquer
them I conquer them. I don't want to work out.
I force myself to. And I force myself to push
myself. And it's not a lot of heavyweight stuff
that makes you look good. It's a lot of painful
shit. It's a lot of rounds in the bag and Tabata
sprints on the airdyne bike and shit like that.
That's what I like to do. I like to do shit where
I don't like to do it when I'm doing it, but
I like how I feel after it's over. And that's
what... ruthless workouts do they make you a
more peaceful person and i know that there's
people that are afraid of them and they're afraid
of people that are ahead of them because they
feel like those people are going to be mean to
them but it's not it's not the case you gotta
you gotta embrace struggle and not struggle like
unnecessary struggle or a horrible struggle or
you know you got cancer or your family's poor
that's not what i mean i mean embrace difficult
tasks like dig in Dig in. And then once you've
got some momentum, like you're a Snoop Dogg,
one of the things that I admire about you is
you're so active. You do so many different things.
You're always moving. You're doing commentary.
You're making new albums. You're touring. You're
doing commercials. You're doing movies. And you're
you professionally. You're doing a show with
Martha Stewart. Shout out to our buddy Chris
McGuire. You know Chris McGuire? He's my guy.
Yeah. We started out doing stand -up together.
For real? Yeah. He told me he was doing that
show with you. I'm like, that's amazing. That's
amazing. He's dope as fuck. I fuck with him.
Yeah. He's a smart dude. Very smart dude. But
it's like, what you're doing is so important
to the culture. To the culture of this country.
Fun and great entertainment and talking shit.
People forget talking shit is fun. It is. When
you're talking shit about Roy Jones Jr. versus
Mike Tyson. And they both my friends. Yes. That's
the beauty. Yes, they're both my friends too.
You know, it reminds me of when I used to watch
a show as a kid called All in the Family. I used
to love fucking Archie Bunker. That motherfucker
talks so much shit. So much shit. That motherfucker,
I look forward to Archie talking shit. That just
was like the era like I come up in. You love
for somebody to talk shit to you because it got
you good with being able to talk shit back. Yes.
Yeah. It's sparring. You know what I mean? It's
sparring. Exactly. It's like a verbal sparring.
And there's so many people that are so sensitive
today. Aren't they? They don't want to hear it
as sparring. Yeah. Fuck that. Our area, we don't
give a fuck. They don't give a fuck. You talk
shit about me just knowing from the hit your
ass back. Well, all those Tony Hinchcliffe roasts,
all those roasts like the Martha Stewart roast,
and all those roasts where Martha Stewart was
writing, rather, where she was doing jokes on
roasts, those are all Tony's. Man, Tony did my
shit. He's a fucking killer. Him and Jeff Ross
are the guys that I go to when it's time for
me. 100%. Those are the two kings of roasts.
I go to those two guys. Tony's actually writing
a movie for me right now. Yeah, that's my guy.
You know what I'm saying? So me and him, I fell
in love with him when I had him do a comedy special
or some shit. And he was the only white comedian
on there. And he fucked up everybody that looked
like me. And at the end of the night, everybody
was like, who is that white boy? I said, don't
worry about nothing. I ain't hiring you niggas
ever again. He fucked all y 'all up. He was the
shit. I mean, just the way he came out there
and took control of the crowd. His stand -up
was amazing. It's amazing. Do you know ever since
he moved to Texas, he started wearing a cowboy
hat? Are you serious? Snoop. Snoop. You know,
he opens up for me in arenas. And this motherfucker
walks out in a cowboy hat with a cowboy shirt
on, big old belt buckle, cowboy boots. No, he's
shit. He tore all their asses up. Every last
one of them. No. Look, Tony Inchcliffe's a straight
up murderer. I work with him all the time. I
worked with him last night. He's so good. He
said if we go out to dinner tonight that he wants
to come. He's so underrated. He's too underrated,
yeah. Very underrated. I'm trying to do something
about that. I bought a club here, and I'm opening
up a comedy club. And once I have everything
set up and ready to film, I want to film and
produce Tony's comedy special. He's the shit.
Yeah, and a bunch of other comedians. I want
to start producing comedy specials. Make it right,
and I'll show up. I'll be the musical guest that
night. Wow. You hear me? Yes, I hear you. Then
that way we'll make it go well. It's going to
happen. It was going to happen anyway. We just
have to wait until the club opens. Yeah, give
him that extra little piece to pull out his hat.
We'll do it. 100%. I told him he could get a
deal with Netflix or he could do Amazon and all
these different... I told him I think he should
just put it out there. Let the people want it
and see it. Put it on YouTube. And then let them
come back and pay for one. Exactly. Or pay to
see you live. That's probably the better relationship.
The best relationship is you give it away for
free. And then when they come see you, they got
to pay to see you do it live. Exactly. Got you.
So it's like they come to see you because you
already gave them something. So now they feel
like they got to give you something. Well, they
feel like they want to come see you. Like you're
connected to you. It's organic. They're supporting
you. Yes. Yes. That's what I think. Like there's
a lot of comics that have done that now. Like
Mark Norman. How many views does Mark Norman
special have? It's just a good time, Snoop. It's
a good time for rap. It's a good time for hip
-hop. It's a good time for comedy. Have you ever
watched Versus? Versus what? What is Versus?
The Versus battle where they have two artists
singing songs against each other. 7 .9 million.
This is what Mark Norman's special has. So he
just put it up on Instagram, or YouTube rather,
and 7 .9 million people have watched it. There's
no way he would get that many on any other network,
right? No. No. Because even Netflix, which is
the giant of all streaming platforms, you have
to pay. You got a cap when it comes to that.
Exactly. But you don't have to pay for YouTube,
and there's so much shit on YouTube. No, I'm
telling you about Versus. Versus is a show that
was created by Swiss Beasts and Timbaland where
they have two artists do 20 songs against each
other. So now we're thinking about a Versus battle
with comedians where they go against each other
because I don't see that anymore, like two comedians.
Talking about each other and then at the end
of the show, the crowd picks who was the funniest.
Well, let me tell you something. I got all my
gold chips on that kid Tony. Against anybody?
Against anybody. That's what I like. Yeah. That's
what the fuck I like to hear. Yeah. I got all
my chips on Tony Hinchcliffe. All of them. Across
the board. That's what I like to hear. Yeah.
I'm all in. I'm all in. You give him three rounds,
15 minutes apiece. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're
not. he he that little is obsessed and he's mean
because he weighs 130 pounds i know what he i've
seen him he comes i've seen him in an all -black
audience with an all -black crowd steal the show
bro i know what he'll do he's a monster my money
on him too i'm just gonna slide it to you on
the low yeah we we do tours together you know
i've done like uh 15 20 arenas with tony h left
he's uh He's a bad motherfucker. We should put
one of those together. I would love it. That
would be so fucking dope. I would love it. Who's
man enough to get in the ring with him? Yeah.
Who's funny enough? Yeah, we could do that. We
could do that like we would do a combination
of we have that, a few musical artists. Yeah.
Tony goes to war with people. Who can be Tony?
I could be like the ring announcer. I'll be like
the Bruce Buffer. Or fuck that. Bring in Bruce
Buffer. Fuck it. Bring in Bruce Buffer for real.
Or make motherfuckers. That's how you make Tony
a star. You make motherfuckers try to knock him
off. He's like the motherfucking head of the
video game. The last challenge. He's the last
floor. That might be a great show. That could
be a great show. Just like beat Bobby Flay? Yes.
Exactly. Beat Tony Hinchcliffe. His show's called
Kill Tony. Fuck it. Right? I mean, kind of crazy.
Fuck it. That's it. Kill Tony. You could just
call it Kill Tony the Roast. Yeah. Right? Yeah.
Kill Tony Roast. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. Because
real Kill Tony. Tony's just a host. He's helping
everybody out. But kill Tony like a real roast
battle. And you know what that would do too?
It would make the sensitive people to comedy
be non -sensitive because now you have two comedians
talking shit about each other and they can't
be sensitive. So now how can you be fucking sensitive
when they're not? Exactly. Right? Change the
narrative. That's what he's doing already with
that show, Kill Tony. Because if you've never
seen that show, Kill Tony, every... Monday day,
they put their names in a hat. And then when
the show comes around, the people are all in
the audience. They don't know if they're going
to get picked. And they draw their names out
of the hat. And they let them come up and they
do one minute. So doing one minute of comedy
in front of hundreds of thousands of people that
are watching online. And all the 270 people that
are in the club. And Tony fucks with them when
he gives them props. And he's made careers from
that. Guys who are just amateurs who, like, maybe
they're working as waiters. I love it. Or maybe
they're, you know, waitresses or whatever the
fuck, accountants. And then they get this shot
to be on Kill Tony and they get some laughs.
And they start realizing, oh, my God, I could
be a fucking comedian. Why you didn't FaceTime
him right now? Who? Tony. I can. I'll FaceTime
him. Yeah, he'll pick up for you. He's probably
going to look at me like a fucking bill collector.
No, no. Are you kidding me? He had a bit for
a while about how he got a call from you, and
then he answered the call. I hate him on FaceTime.
It was him and his girl. They was going into
a club. Called Tony Hinch Club. Hey, Tony. What's
going on? Here we go. Let's see who you're going
to pick up on first. He getting calls from me
and you at the same time. Let's test his friendship.
Who dialed first, though? Let's just test his
friendship. That's what it's all about. You better
not pick up neither one, you motherfucker. Yeah,
he better, like, play this, like... Oh, he went
with Snoop! You son of a bitch! You son of a
bitch! We both dialed at the same time, and you
went with the Snoop call, you son of a bitch!
Shut down. Snoop. I won. I won. I shoot the BB
gun. Tony, we're in the middle of a podcast.
Oh, sweet. I love it. Put him in front of the
microphone. We're in the middle of a podcast,
and we just did a thing where we both FaceTimed
you at the same time. We were trying to see who
would pick up. Would you pick up Snoop's phone
or my phone? You picked up Snoop's. It was humiliating.
And Joe just had the mafia. They had a gun to
his head and said, if this motherfucker don't
pick up the phone, I'm going to kill you. And
I had the same mafia on me, and they said, which
one going to pick up first? And you picked up
for me, so Joe's dead. Thanks, Tony. Thanks,
Tony. What are you doing, man? What are you doing?
I'm chilling, chilling. Just woke up from a nap,
sitting here making coffee. Snoop, do you have
dinner plans? I got to fly back to L .A. When
do you fly back? What time? Seven. Seven? Okay.
Soup's got to fly back at seven. Shit. I'll call
you when I get out of here. Tony. Okay. What's
up with that movie, cuz? What's up with that
movie, cuz? We're doing it. We're knocking it
out. You let me know. Hit me up sometime when
you're not on the biggest show in the world,
you animal. Have me on Kill Tony one episode,
man. Fuck it. I'm not afraid. I owe you and Matthew
McConaughey a visit and Willie Nelson. All y
'all live in the same neighborhood. We love you
out here. We're going to try to get you here.
Tony, we got an idea for a show. Snoop and I
came up with an idea for a show with you in it.
Oh, sweet. What is it? The real Kill Tony. You
battle roasting with people. We bring you in
as the king. Just like beat Bobby Flay, they
got to kill Tony. This is what we do first. We
set you up. with a bunch of fucking Tijuana cab
drivers. Like they would a Mexican prospect.
You know, that was the thing that Greg Haugen
said to Julio Cesar Chavez. Wrong call. Julio
Cesar Chavez beat the fucking shit out of him
for it. But the idea was that he had this gigantic
record, but the guys he fought in the beginning
weren't that good. So here's my thought. We get
a bunch of dudes who are cocky, who really have
an overinflated perspective of what they're capable
of. We start with them. We build you up with
contenders. And then eventually someone's going
to get cocky. There's going to be some professional
stand -up comic that maybe doesn't like Tony
Hinchcliffe. Maybe doesn't like the whole ethos
of roast rapping, comedy, the kind of shows you
do with Kill Tony. He wants to put you in your
place. That's what we both said. We both putting
all our chips on you, baby, so say less. I told
Snoop I'm putting all my chips on Tony. All of
them. All of them. Let's do this. Let's work,
man. We don't want to take up too much of your
time. Tony, we just want to drop a line on you,
show you some love, baby. Anytime. Keep it together,
bitch. Keep it together, bitch. Keep it together.
Bye, guys. Bye -bye. He's hilarious. I said that
shit like a white guy. Bye -bye. Bye -bye. He
has a thing about you calling him and him acting
like as white as humanly possible. You can't
believe how white he's acting as he's talking
to you. That's my guy right there, man. That's
a beautiful thing that people actually pick up
when we call. Yeah, that's fun. We got a call
from Shaq, a call from Tony. We're doing it big,
man. This is a hell of an episode. Yeah. When
you can do FaceTime calls with people and they
pick up, that's a beautiful thing. It feels important.
Yeah. Like I was saying, when you and I were
calling, when I called you and I was sitting
at the dinner table and my daughter goes, holy
shit, that's Snoop Dogg for real? Yeah. I was
so impressed by the way she said that. I was
like, wow, she's amazing. Well, my kids, they
understand that it's a high value of fun in the
house. Like if you can say something funny. If
you can make daddy laugh, that's a big deal.
Mommy might get mad. Mommy might think it's time
to go to bed. Mommy might think you got to get
out the door and go to school. But if you can
make daddy laugh, daddy kind of overrules it
and he starts laughing. He'll fall on the floor
and laugh with you. A thousand points. Yeah,
so my kids, they talk shit. Were they getting
honest? Yeah. But I also talk shit to them, too.
Because I want them to be able to spar with kids
at school. Like, you don't want your kid to go
to school and be some fucking delicate lamb.
You want your kid to go to school to be like
a loving gladiator. Nah, when my kids were young
and trying to get into the music industry, I
was like the worst critic for them. I was like
real hard when they didn't sound right. I was
like, y 'all shit sound like shit. It's garbage.
It's this. It's that. And it taught them to know
that the world is going to be just as shrewd
as I am, but it's built up their tough skin to
be able to say that, you know, rejection ain't
nothing. It's another opportunity out there.
Also, the kind of rejection you're giving them
is better because you love them. Right. You love
them. They know you love them, and you're saying
it sucks. Like, that'll hurt for a while, but
the key is learning a system. of handling reality
and avoiding any kind of pitfalls where you distort
reality to save your ego or save your self -image
or save the way other people perceive you. Because
that doesn't work anyway. If people think that
you want them to think about you in a certain
way, they're not going to think about you that
way. They're going to think you want them to
think about you that way, so they're going to
think you're weak. The only way people perceive
you in a way... that measures up to what you're
doing is if you do something, if you want extraordinary
love, you got to do extraordinary things. Yes.
Like Mike Tyson in his prime. Mike Tyson when
he knocked out Michael Spinks in his prime. That
was an extraordinary human. And he got extraordinary
results. But he deserved them. Yeah, he did.
He deserved them. And that's the balance of life.
And some people don't think that that balance
is achieved because they think they deserve more
than they do. But you just need to work harder.
Yeah. Put that work in and you'll get the results.
And also, if it didn't work out your way and
you did work hard, regroup. Don't blame other
people. Don't get mad at people who are successful.
That fucks everybody up. It fucks the successful
people up because they don't want to help you
because now they're resentful. It fucks you up
because it distracts you. It takes away from
your focus, which should be a success. Well,
most people don't understand that. Most successful
people have had a lot of failure in their life
in order to become successful. Not just a lot,
but the thing you're doing when you're sparring
with Daniel Serafian, you're putting yourself
in a situation where you're not the person who's
the expert at that. And you're also crazy famous.
And you're practicing, doing MMA with a guy who
fought in the UFC. A couple times. His ear is
like a cauliflower. Yeah. You ever touch it?
Hell yeah. It's hard as fuck, right? Yeah, I'm
like, damn, this is experience. When you get
one of these motherfuckers, that means you experience.
Or you suck at getting out of triangles. You've
been squeezed the fuck out of here. It doesn't
necessarily mean you're good. I've met dudes
who had cauliflower ear, and they were terrible
at jiu -jitsu. They just squeezed the fuck out
you, huh? I only have a tiny amount. I have like
a little bit right here in this ear, right here.
And I have some somewhere else where it's really
hard. But it's just bleeding. And so I always
wore ear guards. Right. When I grappled, I wore
these things. You tuck them and you Velcro them
under your chin. So you can't fuck my ears. Yeah.
Because the thing about me is like you got to
hear things right. Right. If you take your ear,
if you go like this with your ear and we're talking,
everything sounds normal. But if you go like
this. and grab the top of it and pinch it down
it sounds different and then you let it go and
start to oh now i hear everything because your
ear was designed to capture sound so as soon
as you get cauliflower ear and you want to look
like a badass Well, you sacrificed being able
to hear for looking like a badass. The look over
the sound. Yeah, it's not good for a guy like
you. We won't compromise our sound for the look.
Why would anybody compromise on sound? Sound
moves people. Yeah. Even old school shit. I was
at the UFC the other day and somebody came out
to the Rocky soundtrack. I was like, oh my God.
That's the motion connection. Fell big. We see
Rocky running up the stairs in Philadelphia.
It reminded me of Howard Cosell calling a fight
here and there. Do you know how good Rocky was?
He didn't even win. That movie was amazing, and
he didn't even win. Adrian! Like, think about
that. He didn't fucking win. He didn't win that
movie. Nah. He didn't win that fight in that
movie. Nah. He fought Apollo Creed, who was essentially
Muhammad Ali. He was a version of Muhammad Ali.
Right. He didn't even win, and that movie made
everybody get up and run. I was, like, eight
years old, dude. I drank three raw eggs, and
I ran around the block. I was trying to find
the statue, and, like, they said that shit in
Philadelphia. Like, damn. He ain't run that far.
Who was this statue of? Was it Joe Frazier? I
don't know, but the whole city was running behind
him. Yeah. Is it a Joe Frazier statue? Because
he's from Philly. Did Muhammad... Oh, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no. I think it actually is Sylvester
Stallone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's horrible.
Yeah, in the movie there's no statue. That's
horrible. That's right. Afterwards, they put
a statue up there. That's so crazy. You think
about all the people that came out of Philadelphia.
Bernard Hopkins. Bernard Hopkins came out of
Philadelphia. Joe Frazier came out of Philadelphia.
They went with Sylvester Stallone. Motherfucker
was one and six. A motherfucker that was one
and six got a stadium up there. He lost to Drago.
He lost to Clubber Lane. Do you know Bill Burr?
Yeah, that's smart. You ever see Bill Burr's
rant about Philadelphia? Man, he's from Boston.
He's a fucking... Yeah. He hates New York and
Philadelphia, right? Yeah. He hate New York,
though. Well, we're from the same place. I'm
from Boston, too. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah, I was
his generation right before Bill left. Oh, my
God. I was, like, late 80s. Bill was early 90s.
It was right after each other. We, like, passed
like chips in the night. Yeah, he's awesome.
He's awesome. And he has his, he was in Philadelphia
and they were booing Dom Irera. And Dom Irera,
who's like a legend, old school comedy legend.
He's amazing. HBO specials, like one of the greatest
guys ever. And one of the funniest guys ever.
Dom Irera's on stage and they were like, people
were fucking with him. And Bill Burr went on
stage and lit Philadelphia on fire and pissed
on its grave. Wow. It was like nine minutes of
him shitting on Philadelphia with sports facts
and everything. And then finally he gets to the
thing where he's talking about how you've got
a fucking fake boxer who has a statue. He goes,
Joe Frazier came from Philly. I don't know if
he said Bernard Hopkins, but he said, you've
got a fucking Sylvester Stallone. You've got
Rocky. You've got a fake guy. Has the statue
of Yosuke. It's so funny. You want to pretend
this Italian guy kicked everybody's ass. Bill
Burr is a bad motherfucker, man. He's a bad motherfucker.
Bill Burr is a special kind of comic. I love
him. He's an unusual person. And he does his
podcast where it's just him. It's so unusual.
There's guys that do it like my friend Tim Dillon
does Tim Dillon and his producer Ben. And he
bounces shit off Ben and makes Ben laugh. Bill
does it like he's shouting out to the abyss.
It's just Bill. All alone. It's just him in a
room talking, you know, I'm fucking telling you
how I feel about shit. And it's like one of the
most popular podcasts in the country. His shit
is dope, though. He got interesting shit to talk
about. Yeah. I liked him in that movie with Pete
Davidson. I didn't see that. That shit was good.
He's great in everything he does. He can do everything.
He's great at the drums. Yeah. You ever see Bill
Burr play the drums? Yeah, he fucks it up. He
fucks it up. He's really good at the drums. Multi
-talented. It's like anybody who gets to that
level. There's levels of things. Levels of hip
-hop, levels of rock music, levels of comedy,
levels of everything. When you get to that level
and you just have a different way of... You can
do anything. If you set your mind to it, you
can do anything. It's meant to be done. I sent
you one more song. I want to play one more song
off of the algorithm. Make a lot of money. It's
Fabulous Dave East and Snoop Dogg produced by
Hi -Tech. My God. Give it to me, Jamie. What
all my niggas saying? What all my niggas saying?
I feel like we could do a lot of these. Come
on. Why not? I feel like we could do a lot of
these. Why not, not why? I feel like this is
the beginning. We can do many, many, many episodes
of this. I feel like there's going to be a time
where you have five phones in front of you, where
three's not enough. Three's not enough. This
is about as high as I've ever been on a podcast.
I just want to tell everybody out there, if I
didn't make any sense, believe me, I realized
why I was talking. I didn't make any sense. I
was in another dimension when this thing started.
I think we're okay now, though. I feel like I'm
back. Me too. Jamie's a little jealous. It's
all right. Look at him over there. Next time.
That Def Jam chain on, man. You got to watch
out for the suckers. You got to watch out for
family. But most importantly, you got to watch
out for the anxiety, right? Because when you're
making money, you just get so anxious to make
more of it. But you got to learn how. And that
was going to be the next song on the record,
Anxiety. I'm leaving my roaches as a. How does
this open up? As. Artifacts. History. Leave all
that tobacco, too, so we can talk about climate
change. Let me get that for you. Yeah, please
do. Let me show you how to do it. You got to
up, and then you got to click it. Like that.
You got it? I'm going to get it. This way. We
can do this afterwards. Now, there we go. I'm
about to drape you out. Oh, he's going to drape
me out. This is better than being knighted. Yeah,
I mean... Fuck all you sirs. I dreamed that there
was going to be a time where Snoop would hang
a chain around my neck and say, drape you with
the drip drop. That's Def Jam Records, man. You
know what that means? This is Def Jam Records.
I do. Thank you. You know what that means. You
a hip -hopper story. I do. I am. I'm a giant
fan of hip -hop. That's Beastie Boys, Public
Enemy, EPMD, Slick Rick, LL Cool J. Yes. Come
on, man. Yes. That's foundation. It is foundation.
If you went to the history of music and musical
influences, Def Jam is giant, right? If you think
about all the different labels and all the different
trends of music, the amount of insanely good
music that came out of Def Jam. Def Jam has been
the staple of hip -hop since the beginning of
hip -hop. We were talking about this earlier,
whether it's the late 70s or the early 80s, whatever
it was when hip -hop emerged. That's really crazy
that you're talking about an art form that's
only 40 years old. Hip -hop is only 40 years
old, but hip -hop is the future because it constantly
grows and grows and grows. It started from somebody
doing it on the street corners and DJing and
whatnot. Now it's global. It's where you can't
do nothing without hip -hop. It's a part of everything
moving and shaking. Well, you know what it is?
It's a powerful new style of musical culture.
It's a style that's only, you know, if you look
at the hundreds a year. But if you really go
back, that's where it's crazy, Snoop. If you
go back 150, 250 years ago, people were just
playing piano and shit. Right. No words. No words.
Yeah. They had, like, they had guitars and they
had different instruments. But where's all the,
like, amazing lyrics? I know, right? Like Beethoven.
If you go to the old, old, old... The classical
music. Yeah, the oldest shit. When was Beethoven?
What years were those? 18 -something. And they
told their stories through their music. They
had no words. And I'm going to tell you, I went
to a fucking classical concert with a friend
of mine. We was working out together, and we
had a bet, and I lost the bet, so she was like,
you got to come to a classical concert with me.
I went to a classical concert with her at the
Hollywood Bowl, and they didn't sing one fucking
word. And all while they was doing the music,
she said next to me, yeah, this is the part where
he kills his father. I'm like, how the fuck do
you know that? And he ain't said a motherfucking
word. Then later on, I looked over at her. She
was crying like a motherfucker. I'm like, what's
going on? This is the part where he dies. This
is the same shit they was playing when I walked
in. How do you know? Did you play Beethoven's
Fifth Symphony? You have to have a different
ear to listen to that. Yeah. I was just thinking
the opera, though. Just play Beethoven's Fifth
Symphony. Pre -opera. Pre -opera. Classical.
Just instrumentation. Play Beethoven's Fifth
because what I want to get at is that I feel
like I never got Grateful Dead. I know people
love it, but I never got it. For whatever reason.
I'm missing that gene. You know? I was into Leonard
Skinner. I was into all kinds of shit. Leonard
Skinner. I went on tour with him for about two
months. But listen to this. This fucking madman
figured out how to compose music when there had
been no music composed. How much shit had been
before him? I don't know, but how much shit sounded
like this? I'm going to say none of it. Because
it exists now. To this day, I can say in 2021,
Beethoven's Fifth. And you know what I'm talking
about. When I hear this music, you know what
I think about? A fucking cartoon in the 70s.
Some little cartoon. It always had shit like
this. Yeah. Yeah. Right? Yeah, it was always
trumpets. Yeah. Yeah. Looney Tunes. Harps and
shit. Yeah. Guess when it was composed. When?
1790. 1808. Wow. That was close. Yeah. That was
pretty good. Opera was 1500s. Wow. I was thinking
in my head it was microphones. You couldn't sing
louder than this, so you'd have to be louder.
So that's why they had those people, those bellowing
voices. Yelling as loud as they possibly could.
No magnification. Right. The echo was in the
room. Yeah. It was the shape. That special microphone.
This one? Once you get a special microphone like
that, then you can hear words. Oh, like this
one? Yeah. What about a special mic like the
motherfucking mic I came up in this bitch with?
That's the perfect mic, too. It's got LEDs. It's
lit up. Are we on joint number six? I done went
through two packs, man. This is going to be my
last one, Joe. Yeah, I'm just sitting back here.
I smoked one. I had to roll one for the finale.
I had three hits an hour and a half ago, and
I'm still nervous. It's for the finale. Jamie
done got $19 worth of secondhand smoke over this
just standing around him like a bodyguard. Just
the fact that you have three phones running with
no screen dimmer is amazing. I'm going to dim
it for you, Joe. I'm going to turn it down. You
don't have to dim it, man. I'm happy you're out
there. I don't give a fuck. Keep that thing on.
Keep it on. I don't care. I'm happy you're out
there. You make me feel happy. You really do.
I'm so glad there's people like you out there.
I'm glad to keep it moving. I know, Snoop, but
it's hard. I always compare your kind of level
of fame to a re -entry from a spaceship. It's
like how much pressure can you take? Can you
survive reentry? Because you get shot up in the
stratosphere. And no one's designed to be as
famous as Snoop Dogg is. It's not natural. It's
not normal. So when a guy like you is that famous
and comes out of it so smooth and smiley and
happy, and I'm like, you might be the greatest
of all time at dealing with celebrity. And I'm
not bullshitting. Wow, you know I had a relationship
with Muhammad Ali. That's, you know, I mean,
he was also, as a boxer, one of the greatest
of all time. That guy sacrificed three years
of his fucking career because he didn't want
to kill people in Vietnam. As a kid, he was the
greatest to me and everybody around me. And Bruce
Lee was right behind him. My parents were hippies.
Oh, wow. And my parents did not watch boxing.
But they wanted me to watch Muhammad Ali try
to win his title back from Leon Spinks. Wow.
I was living in San Francisco. Leon only had
two teeth. Rest in peace, Leon. I think he had
six or seven, but point taken. But he beat Muhammad
Ali in the first fight. Ali didn't train for
him, underestimated him. And Leon Spinks. And
it was also like Ali had been through the goddamn
ringer. He had been through Joe Frazier. He had
been through George Foreman. He had been through
so much. Ken Norton. Oh, broke his jaw. He had
been through so much. So that Ali of that time
was like, it was hard to get Ali up for a big
fight. And he didn't get up for a small fight.
And he wound up losing the title. And Leon Spinks.
who was the brother of the light heavyweight
champion, Michael Spinks, who was the Jinx, who
was one of the greatest light heavyweights of
all time. He fucked up when he went heavyweight
into Mike Tyson's lane. It's a mistake. He used
to fight at 175. He was the shit at that level.
They were too big. But the money was also too
big, so he took a chance, and he found out. But
my parents, who were hippies, made me watch Muhammad
Ali versus Leon Spinks because it wasn't about
the fight. ABC, why World of Sports? Howard Cosell.
Exactly. It was about this guy who stood against
the Vietnam War. That's what it was about. He
stood up for living. He stood up for, this is
what he said, no Viet Cong ever did shit to me.
That's what he said, basically. And he said,
why am I killing them? I don't have any beef
with these people. America done more wrong than
me than Vietnam. And history has proven him to
be correct. Because the whole reason for getting
into that war was something called the Gulf of
Tonkin incident, which was a false flag, which
means the government pretended that we got attacked
by the North Vietnamese, but we didn't. It was
bullshit. And my father had to go over there
and serve time in Vietnam. He did. I think two
years, and he made it out of there. And thank
God he made it out of there because this is before
I was even thought of. This was in the late 60s,
and I was born in 71. So if he don't make it
out of there, I don't get here. I'm so happy
that you got here, but I'm so unhappy that there
was ever a situation where people maybe who would
have also contributed didn't get here because
their family died over there. Their daddy died
over there. For nothing? For nothing. For nothing.
Do you know what my dad told me? He said the
life expectancy for a black man in Vietnam in
1968 was 16 .4 seconds. What? 16 .4 seconds.
So the moment you get out there, 16 seconds later,
you're dead. Check this out. They're getting
there on the helicopter. On the helicopter land,
naturally... They're probably going to make the
black soldiers. This is 68, before Martin Luther
King got killed or right around the time. Naturally,
black guys, y 'all go first. Y 'all walking on
landmines. And then once the shooting starts,
guess who's shooting at you from the back? The
white southern soldiers who don't like black
people. who now you're being shot at from the
front and the back, and you're stepping on landmines,
and you possibly could become a POW, and you
really don't have no good training because you
really never been around guns, and you're a teenager,
and they just throw you in the war. So this is
what my people had to go through. These are those
stories that are not told that people like me
made it out of because my dad was blessed enough
to get out of there. Now you see why I'm a survivor
now, right? Yeah. That's the thing about this
country. It's like we all want to praise patriotism.
We want to say we're in this together. But then
you think about the things the very military
has done, the way they've done it, the way they've
brought people together in the worst of ways
to fight for a war that doesn't make any sense.
And then it makes you angry. My dad was over
there when Martin Luther King got killed. So
imagine how the black soldiers felt when that
happened. You know what I'm saying? And there's
still no segregation. They're still living the
way they was living. That shit didn't kick in
until like 70, 71 when it was the hippie era
where it was like, get that shit out of here.
White people, black people, we all getting along.
We don't know what the fuck y 'all was brought
up on. I love people. I love weed. I love good
music, and I love to have fun, and I'm raising
my kids to love people. That happened in our
era. When was you born, 61? 67. I was born in
70. So by the time you was able to walk and run
and play, your parents was full on hippies and
I was just being born. And that's the era that
I came up in. I come up in the hippie era. That's
why I'm so full of love. Yeah. Because of the
way I was brought up. I was brought up in that
era where I had Mexican friends, Asian friends,
white friends and all sorts of friends. And I
knew their mother. They knew my mother. And it
was like. They didn't give a fuck about what
your race and nationality was. If they can keep
us divided by race and nationality, then we won't
pay attention to the fact that it's really divided
by class and by government. That's what happens.
When they get people squabbling about who's white
and who's black and who's red and who's blue
and who wants affirmative action and who doesn't
and who wants universal basic income and who
doesn't. Here's what I want. I want... everybody
to live a better life thank you across the board
how about it and if you don't start looking at
the lowest economic rung and say before we deal
with all the bullshit that's happening and whatever
whatever subject you want if we don't take if
we're we're a team if we're team america and
we don't take care of the people that are in
the lowest economic rung of the ladder they're
clearly stuck they're in a bad spot they got
a bad roll of the dice We got to even that out.
Look, we're as strong as our weakest link. But
here's what's weird. You want to know what's
weird? Talk to me. When a person comes out of
that and emerges, they're super powered. Like
if you get yourself a Marvin Hagler, you know,
right? If you get yourself a Mike Tyson, comes
out of Brownsville, like it's not good. It's
not good. It's wrong. It's all bad in every way.
But when he emerges, he emerges as fucking nuclear
-powered, man. Yeah. And then we all talk about
him for era. Like, for eras and eras. Like, to
this day, we're still talking about Jack Johnson.
Because that was a bad motherfucker. That was
a bad motherfucker. Fight four people in one
night and drive off with any woman he want? Yeah.
Jack Johnson was... A motherfucker. I'm waiting
to see if they're going to make his movie. It's
so overdue. Well, they did that Ken Burns documentary.
Did you ever see that? He need a movie. A movie.
Motion picture. Shaq. Shaquille O 'Neal. Get
his ass back on the phone, Shaq. You're Jack
Johnson. Here's the thing. He's way too big,
but for the way people are today versus the way
people are then, it almost makes sense. It do.
They called him the Galveston Giant, but I think
he was only like six foot two. But that was big
back then. It was giant back then. No one had
food. Stoop, no one had food. Wow. I read that
if you go back to 1860, the average American
male weighed 130 pounds. It was a cap out. And
it was families. Back then, people made families.
Because I know my mother's family had eight brothers
in my... Father's family got 13 brothers and
sisters. How tall was Jack Johnson? Six foot.
Six foot! Why did he look like he's six and nine?
Six foot, because everyone was so little. Six
foot. He was the Galveston Giant. At six foot
tall. Now imagine, Tyson Fury is six foot nine.
He would have fucking... Andre the Giant probably
would have been like... He's six nine! He would
have been like King Kong, get him, motherfuckers,
if he'd have woke up. Tyson Fury. Like, this
is like, everybody, like, you need to look at
what creates a great fighter. Struggle. Right.
That guy came, he's a gypsy. He's the gypsy king.
Like, a real gypsy. Like, they travel around
in caravans, which are basically like Winnebago's.
They're in trailers. They live in trailers. And
he's the king. He's six foot nine. Let's go.
Zerxy. He's Zerxy. Yeah, it's like that's a version
of Xerxe. That version from that era. The fact
that Deontay Wilder put everybody else in orbit.
Everybody else. Everybody he fought, he put them
in orbit. He eventually connected. Didn't matter.
Cuban Olympic team member. Fuck you. Blam. Everybody's
going to sleep. And he caught Tyson. He caught
him in the 12th rockin' round of that first fight.
The 12th round. He hit him with a right hand
and a left hook behind it. And Tyson was flat
out on his back. He caught him in the last fight
he lost. Yep. caught him twice maybe had him
hurt worse than he had him hurt in the 12th round
of the first fight the thing that I noticed and
nobody was they thought I was being funny but
if you look at Wilder's legs they don't have
any support to what he's pushing his legs look
like mine like Wiz Khalifa's legs are bigger
than his, so you got to get that leg day in.
It should be all leg day, all core, and leg day.
Because up top, from the waist up, he on deck.
But from the waist down, he got to get stronger.
He has a certain vulnerability in that he can
knock anyone's lights out if he connects. But
if he's forced to move in odd ways, he struggles.
You didn't see his legs, though. No, I did. So
what'd you do? 100%. You're right. Like Tyson
Fury one of the things about him is he'll he'll
stutter step a lot He'll like do this his feet
work was amazing. It's amazing and he's strong
He got a strong order where yeah cuz knocked
him out But he was so strong to where it took
so too much The thing is like just cuz you're
fat doesn't mean you're weak right you got to
realize that and people look at a fat guy He's
got like back fat like I think it's part of the
hustle Because if he can show up Yeah, because
he can show up and stare at you with his gut
hanging out and know he's going to fuck you up.
That's some wild confidence, man. I like how
he used his reach. But if you're a guy who's
ripped and shredded and you think about it a
lot, and a guy who's already fucked you up, and
he's got belly fat and back fat. And he's 40
pounds heavier than the last time you seen him.
And he still fucks you up again. You knock him
down. You hit him with your best shot. He gets
up and fucks you up. He's a more skillful fighter.
You know what it is? He started out his career
as a boxer, and then in the 12th round of the
first fight with Deontay Wilder, he became a
slugger. Right. Because he realized once he had
Deontay on his back and he had him on his heels,
he had him backing up, he could fuck him up.
It's after Deontay almost knocked him out. It's
killer instinct, though. You know that. It is,
but it's also like he figured something out,
and he realized that Deontay has this insane
amount of power going forward. But not backwards.
Not as much. Right. If you can let him plan himself,
like you do with Luis Ortiz. You're in trouble.
Yeah, you're in trouble. He hits dudes on the
forehead, and they go night -night. To this day.
To this day. To this day. You know, that was
my friend Radio Raheem that did that. Yeah. That
interview. To this day. Yeah. He was just trying
to get Deontay to expand upon his thoughts. I
love the way. To this day. He didn't know Deontay
was going to get mad at him. He was just like,
yeah, I'm with you. And then he realized, oh
my God, he's talking to me. That's that boxer's
mentality. Either you're with me or you're against
me. Exactly. And Deontay was angry. Have any
boxers got upset at you for commentary? Nah,
not really, because, you know, they know I got
squabble on me, so. You know, when they come
with that shit they talking, I'm like, but it's
still on them first. Then have my security clean
them up. Go wash his face. Take him in the bathroom
and wash his face. Get him back right. Nah, I'm
cool with everybody, man. They know Snoop Dogg
is a fun -spirited dude. I respect everybody's
craft, and they know that's what comes with the
territory. If they came to see me perform and
I didn't perform as good as I was supposed to
or missed my lines or fell off stage or did something
that was unorthodox, they got the right to say
that. That's what we were talking about earlier
as far as that tough skin to be able to take
the criticism. Anytime you get in the professional
field, criticism and skepticism comes with it.
You know what I think would make $1 billion?
Donald Trump versus Joe Biden in MMA fight. Oh,
wow. It got to be a one -round, 15 -second fight
because I don't know if old smoking Joe can last
that long. No rounds. UFC One style. I'm putting
my money on Trump because I like Trump's spirit.
Who, Joe? You mean old Joe? Trump going to talk
him out of most of it. I wonder who we're going
to come off first, though. That's a real question.
That's a good point. When are we going to have
a president again that we actually like? Is there
anybody out there? Probably going to have to
be a robot. Probably going to have to be a robot.
Yeah, we fuck with all our robots. That motherfucker
cool. Exactly. Something that we all can agree
on. Yeah, it'll have to be. We're going to decide
that people can't run shit. We have egos. We
get in each other's way. Let the robot run it.
The robots are not going to run it per se. They're
just going to run like the municipalities, and
they're going to take care of the sewage system
and the power. And they'll be the face of it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, let me ease your concerns.
A robot is not your mayor, okay? A robot is a
facilitator of all the services that we need.
to have a beautiful, cohesive society. Your mayor
is a trans woman. Or whatever. It's just going
to be about the people. That's what it should
be about. Let the people have their say and feel
like it's about them. That's the world we're
living in right now. We're really not living
up under nobody's rules. Everybody's basically
living the way they want and they're putting
a lot of peace and love in the air because I
just think back to a time when my grandparents
and great -grandparents... were around and they
couldn't do certain things and now people are
doing a lot of things together and we move so
far past from where we were to where we at and
i just think it's just going to keep evolving
in a generation right now they all about love
the kids they love each other and they love to
know if we can keep that as an ethic we can get
through all this you know that's the thing about
society like and what you do Whether you're doing
commentary or what you do when you're rapping
or when you're on roasts or you're talking shit
and having fun, like, we have to recognize that,
like, wait, that's not, it's not, you're having
fun. Yeah. That's, like, it doesn't mean you're
mean. Not being mean. Trying to have fun. That's
it. That's all. That's it. That's all. That was
my mission, Joe, to come out here and to see
you get on this podcast, break off some gifts
till you smoke one. or two or three or four or
five with you play some good music you know chop
it up share some good stories and just show camaraderie
of two men who love what they do plus i got a
really nice chain look at that i don't have anything
like this it's very nice dev jam tells them who
i am man i thank you for letting me come on man
this has been beautiful it was an honor it was
fun i think we had a good time i had a great
time i definitely was too high in the beginning
When it was off and running, I was like, whoa,
this is dangerous. I felt like a dude who was
like, I was skiing and I fell and I just kept
going down the hill, but I saw some trees in
the distance. I'm like, damn, I hope I can stop
before I hit these fucking trees. I was too high.
Skis and black folks don't deserve each other,
so I would never be out there with you. The highest
I've ever been on podcast is Wiz Khalifa. That
was a rough one. um who else well a bunch of
them but yeah this one yeah we we in uh planet
snooper right now so we're in a whole nother
dimension you know planets beyond their reach
no one can get to where we at do you do you do
any kind of podcast or anything like that the
ggn is my thing where i created uh why are we
doing it watching the animals and shit and doing
little voiceovers for that shit. You watch animals?
What do you mean? Yeah, show him the GGN. Pull
up on them GGNs. I done had Larry King and all
types of motherfuckers come on my show. Larry
King was a nice guy. He was amazing. He really
is a sweet guy. He was. We switched roles on
my show. He was me and I was him. You got it.
I heard that theme. With the animals. Seth Rogen?
Yeah. Sorry for the... See, my podcast is GGN.
This is just the highlights of him with different
people. I was just kind of skipping through.
What was the goal of the show when you started?
To be a hit. To be on the air for some years.
To get the adjust of the show across to people.
Martin Lawrence. I don't know who you're talking
to. Oh, Mario Lopez. Mario Lopez. I told him,
I said, every time I'm in a fucking hotel, I
see you all goddamn day. Yes. Those Vegas hotels.
Goddamn. So is Mario Lopez talking about new
movies? Yeah, new movie coming out this week.
Like, motherfucker, I see you more than I see
myself. No, but, you know, hey, that's what I
do on the side. GGN. We coming back. Got some
new episodes coming out. Oh, yeah, me and her,
Kathy. She was amazing. Who was that? What was
the first person we had? On that? The show, Jamie?
And what else after that? Right, Martin. That's
what it was. Dude, I used to have to follow Martin
Lawrence at the comedy store when he was in his
prime. You had to go after him? Snoop, let me
tell you something. The lady who ran the comedy
store, her name was Mitzi Shore. She was a genius.
Polly's mama. Exactly. She was a genius. In 1994,
when I first came to California, Comedy Store
was mecca. I was out here for a TV show. My album
was knocking in 94. 94. I was just getting started.
In 94, when I came out here, there was one goal
if you were a comedian. That was be a paid regular
at the Comedy Store. So I had a TV show, but
I was like, I got to be a fucking paid regular
at the comedy store. And I came out here and
eventually became a paid regular at the comedy
store. That was all Mitzi Shore. That was this
one lady who was Pauly's mom. What was my point?
What were we just talking about? Martin Lawrence.
Oh, so Mitzi was a, she would throw you to the
wolves. So if she liked you, she would throw
you to the wolves. So Martin Lawrence was in
his prime. I mean the leather jumpsuit days.
Dude, let me tell you something. I was 26, 27
years old, whatever the fuck I was. I wasn't
even that good. I was like barely passable as
a comedian. And I would have to go on stage after
Martin Lawrence. There was the You So Crazy days.
He would erupt that place. The main room would
be 350 people just falling on the ground laughing.
And then I would have to go on afterwards. I
bombed. I must have bombed 26 times in a row
following Martin. She got you right. She knew
what she was doing. She knew what she was doing.
But the point was. I've said it on this podcast
like 100 times. Martin Lawrence is one of the
most underappreciated stand -ups ever. Wow. Because
he kind of stopped doing it. But when you saw
him in those 90s, like the You So Crazy days,
dude, he was a monster. He was killing them Def
Jam comedy specials. He was a monster. He would
walk on stage, and you wanted to laugh. The moment
you saw him, he had you. Yes. He had you. Yes.
And he would just smash. Just smash. And find
somebody in the audience and take off. I would
go on after him and just eat shit. Thank you,
Martin, for getting Joe where he's supposed to
be at, man. Oh, my God. He helped me so much.
He has no idea. But he helped me realize, like,
you better be way funnier than you are. Yeah.
You better be way better than you are. Thank
you, good. You better be great. You better be.
You got to come out of the gate guns blazing
to make up for. This sort of situation. Oh, my
goodness. What are these? Those are yours. Premium
nutrients. What are premium nutrients? Open it
up. That's another gift. Oh, my God. Yeah. That's
my parting gift. You know, when you leave a game
show. And parting gifts. Hold on, please. I'm
going to roll me up one and give you a parting
gift. Yeah. Snoop, this has been a magical day
for me. More for me. I've enjoyed every minute
of it. I was legit nervous about this podcast.
Come on, man. Come on, man. I'm just being honest.
I was a fan of yours a long time ago. Back when
I could barely pay my rent. This shit came out
dope. That was good. That's one of the weirdest
things for me about podcasts and all the other
shit I've done is getting to meet people. Up
close and personal. Well, yeah, and people that...
I used to buy their shit. That's what my podcast
is about. When I had all the people on there,
it was only about motherfuckers that I always
wanted to sit down and talk to. Yeah. And I'd
be on there smoking with them and chilling, making
them feel comfortable, never asking them about
controversy. Oh, my God, this smells so good.
Can you see what it is? Yeah. It's got that glass
tip on it, too. It smells amazing. It smells
like I'm going to learn something about myself.
And I put that glass tip on you so you got that
professional. I like it. Yeah, there you go.
I wish I was slightly less drunk so I could talk
better. You're doing fine, Joe. You're doing
fine. As are you. You're doing fine. On the way
out, I want to say to all the people that's watching
and listening, appreciate all the love and the
support. Hey, man, it's an honor and a pleasure
to be in front of real people. It's a treat when
players meet. Joe Rogan. Appreciate you for letting
me come on and do my thing. I mean, I could have
been anywhere. I could have been in Dallas. I
could have been in Houston. I could have been
in Galveston. But I chose to be on the Joe Rogan
Show, man. It's an honor. I said that at the
beginning, and I really meant it. I think you're
an amazing cultural figure, and you're a cool
motherfucker, and you're a shining light and
a beacon of love and of friendship and of art.
You move things in the right way. And I appreciate
you very, very much. And I've always appreciated
you. Out from the beginning of your career, when
I had no idea there would ever come a time where
I'd ever be able to sit across the fucking table
with you for six fucking... How long was it?
Three hours? Four. Four hours. Four hours. Four
hours and some change. Four hours and 20 minutes.
We're going to say it's been 420, yo. Big Snoop
Dogg, Joe Rogan. We've been rocking and rolling
and rolling and rocking. Pay attention, you motherfucker,
you. Hello! I'm so high, I'm in a time warp.
Believe it. My point is, you know, I'm sure when
you were telling me how you met James Brown.
Yeah. For me, that's what it is to meet you.
Yeah. Yeah. That was special. It's wild. We sat
at a park bench, too. That's incredible. So our
knees was touching and shit, you know what I'm
saying? What park? No, I had one inside of my
studio. Oh, you do? Yeah, it was a green, one
of them green picnics. I thought you had your
own park or something. A green picnic park bench,
you know what I'm saying? Nice, yeah. And our
knees was touching. We were sitting that close
to where I could feel his knees on mine. I didn't
even want to move them, motherfuckers. I was
like, nigga, James Brown's knees is on mine.
I may be able to do the splits and shit after
this. Get up. Get on up. Get up. Hey, like a
sex machine. I was at a red light one time, and
I had a big playback playing in my rental car
in Houston, Texas. And this girl pulls up beside
me, and it was like, you know, right when it
was like, ow! And she's like, that's the shit!
And she just drove off, and I never forgot that.
This is going to be the last story I'm going
to give you, and it's about the big payback,
because I don't know if you know. I don't know
if you know this. Can we play some of that in
the background? I don't know if you know about
this. Okay. Let me get some background. There
was a movie called Black Caesar that James Brown
did the soundtrack where Pay the Cost to Be the
Boss was on there. So when they got to part two
of the movie, it was called Hell Up in Harlem.
For part one, James made long versions of songs,
and they had no problem with it. When they got
to part two, James gave them the big payback
and they told him, can you cut this down to like
two minutes because it's too long. And James
said, I'm not cutting down nothing. I wrote this
for the movie and it should be this way. So they
said, you know what, if you don't cut it down,
we can't use it. So instead of them using...
The Big Payback, James Brown took The Big Payback
and made that his next album. So that was originally
for Hell Up in Harlem, a Fred Williamson movie.
That's what he wrote this song for. If you listen
to the lyrics, it's about the movie, The Big
Payback. Wow. Yeah, look at that movie. Go look
at Black Caesar. This is part two. Can you imagine
being in a situation where you're able to do
business with James Brown and you fuck it up?
Thank you. Thank you. You should have been like,
listen, whatever you want to do, man. Give me
a hug, bro. I'm just so happy to be around you.
Can you cut the song off right here? No. If I
was working with James Brown, I would go, my
friend, give me a hug. Whatever you want to do.
I want you to be happy. Tell me what makes you
happy. Let's do this shit. Let's do this shit.
I'd hold his hand. I would hug him. I'd go, whatever
you want to do. I don't want extra money from
you. You're James fucking Brown. You're one of
a kind. Just go ahead. Go ahead. It was better
for James. It's better for culture. It's better
for everybody. But see, that's the hidden myth
to that song and the story to it. So now everybody
know what it is and where it came from. You don't
get that guy who went on stage in Zaire. You
don't get that without some struggle. No. It
doesn't happen. No. No. It's not possible. That's
part of his struggle. It's not possible. You
wouldn't be that motivated. Yeah, say that. I
told you he had 16 splits for George Clinton
when he asked him. That's insane. But you just
don't know if you just, it's hard to go back
in time and put it in the perspective of the
time when he released this album. This is like
a cultural shifting moment. And it would have
been bigger if it was on the movie. It would
have been bigger for the movie, not for him.
Not for him. For the movie. The movie, nobody
knows about. Everybody knows this song. Dustin
Poirier, when he comes out to fight, he comes
out to this song. When he beat Conor McGregor,
he came out to this song. That's all I'm saying.
Didn't he? I hope I'm right. This song just got
so much significance to when you do lose and
you're coming back. Sure, you sort of get back
or pay back. Make sure that I'm correct about
that. I feel vulnerable. I feel like my facts
are slippery. The boss? The boss. Yeah, that's
it, right? That's it. Paid the cost to be the
boss? Oh, that's not paid back. That's not black
season. Oh, that's right. That's the first movie.
I knew he came out to James Brown. Damn, I fucked
it up. Glad I corrected it. I felt vulnerable
there. Paid the cost. Snoop, this has been an
honor and a privilege, and let's do more of these.
And tell everybody, your new album is out on
the 19th? November 19th, Algorithm, Snoop Dogg,
and there's so much talent on the album. There's
so many different features on there. It's a Def
Jam situation. Y 'all make sure y 'all go get
it. I got a couple of videos and singles out
right now. Big Subwoofer, which is Mount Westmore.
Murder Music featuring Jadakiss, Bitty the Butcher,
and Busta Rhymes. And then we just finna hit
you upside the head all year long. So stay tuned,
stay locked and loaded. The date comes out. We'll
definitely let everybody know on Instagram and
all that. That's it right there. Snoop Dogg.
Algorithm. How fun was this? It's the Joe Rogan
experience, man, and I left you some... That
was fun. I left you some... Artifacts? Yeah,
man, you know. I'm going to take some photos.
Like, motherfuckers don't know. I should impress
them. They don't know what that... Man, I got
to get a photo of that right now, man. I should
put that in resin. You should. Like, if you just,
like, take that and seal it in, like, clear plastic
where you don't move it. Can they do that? Yeah,
we can do that. Okay, we're going to do that.
We're going to freeze that pad and all those
poor, lost tobacco leaves. Like, one day someone's
going to smoke me. Nope. Nope. I'm just going
to peel you out of your skin and use you for
blunts on a podcast. That went from seed to nothingness.
There's no reason for that. It's waste. Everybody
wants to talk about all kinds of waste. Plastic
bottles. What's that? Flavor for what? But the
inside of it? That doesn't flavor it. Soaking
in there. He's a fucking tobacco supporter. I
have to check Jamie's sponsors. Yeah, see. When
you post shit like this on Instagram, I just
let that shit just live. Would you post a picture
of that? Yeah, if it went through. Let me see
if it went through. And then I'll put your name
on there. Don't you feel uncomfortable, Jamie?
Like you're in the room with Snoop? You feel
odd? I know. Right at home. No internet connection.
What's going on? It's got to have a Wi -Fi. What's
the Wi -Fi in here? Well, I would tell you, but
we are still doing the podcast. So how about
I try no Wi -Fi? Let's close this out. You want
to close it? Yeah. What are we at now? Four hours?
Thank you, everybody, for tuning in. Thank you,
Snoop Dogg. Thank you, Jamie. Thank you, listeners
and viewers. See? That's it. Posted. Posted on
Instagram live and in the moment. So when you
listen to the podcast, go to Snoop's Instagram
and you can say, the moment that he posted that,
that's the moment when it ended. So it'll be
up later tomorrow. Yeah. You always say you got
an intro and you got an endo. Yes. And that was
the endo. I like that. Goodbye everybody. See
you. Bye bye. Bye bitch.