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Young Jamie, back in the fucking saddle. How
you feeling? Very well, thank you. COVID free,
four days in a row now. I've kicked it. Yeah,
and now you still can't taste anything? Can't
taste shit. Well, it's starting to come back
today, but yeah, like 5 % taste. Yeah, it's got
to be shit. Pickle juice doesn't even taste like
anything. Really? It just tastes like water?
Mm -hmm. Whoa. Very weird. But you don't have
any residual symptoms? Nothing wrong? All good.
I can breathe everything. Good to see you back,
buddy. Oh, too. Good. We're a little worried
about you. Thanks. A little worried about you.
Not worried about you. Alex Jones! This is the
most anticipated thing I ever did. I've probably
had, no exaggeration, 2 ,000 or 3 ,000 people
in the last year and a half ask me, when are
you going back on Joe Rogan? And I'm always saying,
I don't know, I don't know. And then I learned
you were moving here like three, four months
ago, and now we're here. This is exciting. I
don't get butterflies anymore, but I actually
have them here, and this is great. It's good
to have butterflies after about 20 years. Didn't
get the last two times I was on. Didn't get it
when I interviewed Trump. Didn't get it in a
lot of things, but I've got butterflies here
today. And Tim, motherfucking Tim. Yeah, I'm
just a kid in a candy store. Me too. Thank you
for making this dream come true. This is what
I've always wanted to do, and we've made it happen.
This is my make -a -wish. I can die happy. Well,
I'm happy you're here. Yeah, I got my free Ghislaine
shirt because I believe all women. Is that how
you say it? I think so, yeah. I thought it was
Ghislaine. I thought it was Ghislaine. It might
be Ghislaine. It's Ghislaine. Do you know? Look
at me. Ghislaine? It's Ghislaine. Ghislaine?
That's a ridiculous name. Her father was a famous...
MI6 massage spy that reportedly used sex operatives
to control people. He died being thrown off a
yacht in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. And,
of course, she got caught in that farmhouse on
the East Coast. And she was really the pimp over
Epstein and a giant sex network ring over scientists
that they were compromising so they could control
not just government but industry and science.
And so that was the master blackmail operation
they were running. And her sisters are big in
tech. Like Isabel Maxwell, she has sisters that
are in U .S. tech companies. I think two of her
sisters were part of the creation of Magellan,
which was that big search engine. Really? So,
yeah, they are a very powerful family and they
have all kinds of different operations. Her dad
was the biggest publisher in England and also
the biggest owner of private TV stations in England.
And when he died, it turned out he was a front
basically for intelligence networks. Now, let
me right off the bat say you were telling me
about Epstein and this island years ago. You
were telling me long before anybody. I think
you told me about him before his first arrest.
A long time ago, I talked about how they have
these islands. They fly. They compromise children.
But I learned all this from Ted Gunderson. 20
plus years ago, he was in line to be the FBI
director. He was the head of the FBI in Los Angeles.
He was a very famous FBI agent. He even ran COINTELPRO.
It's a civil rights movement. He apologized for
that before he died in 2011. But he came out
and he was the one that explained to me about
how they use these blackmail rings, elements
of the CIA and foreign intelligence groups and
how they would basically make people have sex
with children to be part of these. clubs and
these cults they were setting up so i knew about
all this from ted gunnarsson were they young
girls that did they tell them these girls were
underage or did they look like they were older
like like this uh the borat movie where they
uh yeah if you haven't seen it it's very disappointing
because they set him up i saw it yeah they did
set him up but nothing happened They made it
look like Giuliani was jerking off in front of
this girl. He was taking his mic off. He would
have to be the biggest savage on earth to jerk
off in that situation. And they also said that
he inappropriately touched her back. When he
touched her back, I am not exaggerating, it was
like this. Right. It was a couple of light taps
on the back while she was... Close to him, taking
off his mic thing. He goes, oh, thank you very
much, dear. And he goes, yes, I just need your
name and your phone number. And then she takes
off his mic, and then he leans back, and he's
tucking his shirt back. Because he just pulled
the mic off. Right, but he's lying on the bed
to do it. Now, if you're an old man, and I'm
sure he's probably got a bad back. That's probably
how you would do it. But any of us that have
had to put the mics on our side and then you
put it in your pants, up your shirt, and then
you've got to get it out. That's what you do.
But it's worse than that. Remember when he was
playing the – who was the gay character he played
like 10 years ago? Bruno. Bruno. Yeah. Remember
Congressman Ron Paul at the time had run for
president. And he's in the hotel. He goes, oh,
the light broke. Please step into this room.
So there's no chair. Ron Paul sits down and he's
reading a newspaper. and Bruno comes in and pulls
his pants down and says, I want to have sex with
you. Now, that would be sexual assault if that
was a man to a woman. Ron Paul pushes him out
of the way, goes out of the room. And so this
is what he does. He's done this to other people.
It's his specialty is to say you're being interviewed.
Yeah, here it is. Listen, let me just, before
we go any further, I fucking love Sacha Baron
Cohen. He's a comic genius. I think he's brilliant.
I think he's amazing. But his... interpretation
of what happened in the room with Rudy Giuliani,
it's not accurate, in my opinion. And who is
America? He's tapping her while she's touching
him and removing his mic. He does this little
tap on her waist. But it's not creepy. It's like
an old man. A little tap, tap, tap. If you want
to take it out of context, I don't know if there's
more to it than what we're seeing. But let's
go further. Right after this happens, Barat,
Sacha Baron Cohen, runs in in panties and a bra
saying, have sex with me. He's 15 G2 old. Yes.
And Giuliani's like, I'd have a heart attack.
What is this? Listen, my fucking 12 -year -old
sense of humor loved it. Yeah. The thing about
it is they're making it seem like Giuliani was
jerking off in front of her. He lies back and
he's tucking his pants. Can we show the whole
thing so we can look at it? They put it out as
promotional material. What's that, Jamie? We
can watch it in here. I think Jamie's right.
If you're a big show, they'll try to tag you.
But they put this out as promotional material
to be promoted. They put it out on Twitter. The
clip is on Ms. Pat's. Give a shout out to Ms.
Pat. I mean, Jamie's technically right, though.
On Instagram. It's on her Instagram. But let
me drop a bombshell on you, Joe. A bombshell?
No, no. I've been a big fan of Sacha Baron Cohen
until I learned he spoke at the ADL last year
and called for my arrest for free speech. And
he called for Jeff Zuckerberg's arrest. or Mark
Zuckerberg's arrest. So he called for my arrest
and for Mark Zuckerberg's arrest for free speech.
Hey, he wants to work in Hollywood. Right. You
got to do what you got to do to make those movie
deals. No, but let's go further. I agree, but
I mean, he said arrest people for their free
speech and he supports internet censorship. So
how does he make his money being this avant -garde,
cutting edge, really, you know, over the edge?
comic that does things that could technically
be seen as illegal i support his free speech
and then he says i don't deserve it well it's
really dangerous he's flawed like many great
artists yeah you know i mean i i'm until they
come for him He's not going to understand the
slippery slope of censorship. And this is another
thing that people have criticized me for being
friends with you and for talking to you. And
they also criticized me for not supporting a
lot of these people that got banned and deplatformed.
My take on it has always been the best way to
counter wrong speech is correct speech. When
someone says something that's wrong or someone
says a conspiracy theory that's not accurate,
the best way to counter that is to do better
speech, to have people say the accurate information
and to let the truth rise to the top. When you
start censoring people, the problem is it's a
fucking slippery slope. And there's a reason
why we've been so steadfast in supporting the
First Amendment in this country. And people think
it doesn't apply to tech because these tech institutes
are private businesses and they should be able
to do whatever they want with their private business.
The problem is that fucking slippery slope has
gone from censoring you from banning Alex Jones
off Twitter a year and a half ago to getting
the White House press secretary banned off Twitter
because she posts something from the New York
Post, which is crazy. It's crazy. That's a 200
and whatever year old newspaper. America's oldest
newspaper. And what she said, the post, what
they printed and put out there is accurate. Let's
go further. Let's go further. They're denying
that. That it's a real story, but they don't
ever say the emails are fake. They just say it's
a smear. No, it's a real laptop. The videos have
been released. It's confirmed. But just think
about this. It is a smear in that they're putting
it out there. They're timing it. Sure, but they're
not denying it's real. No, it's real. It's real.
How did this laptop become this big story? That's
where it gets tricky. Yeah, I'm curious. supposedly
he dropped it off at a laptop repair shop in
Delaware. What an idiot. I mean, who's doing
that? Well, Crackhead. Right, right. Good point.
The guy's smoking crack. I keep forgetting he
smokes crack. Well, he did at the time. Apparently
he's kicked it. So congratulations to him. But
the guy had some problems. This is self -admitted.
And they have the receipts. And here's the thing.
He calls him dozens of times. Everybody knows
when you bring a laptop or anything in, they
say, if you don't pay for this, we're going to
wipe it and sell it. And so three months goes
by, six months goes by. Nobody ever comes and
gets it. The guy goes to look at it at the repair
shop, the owner, and there's all these 25 ,000
files, what looks like underage girls and all
the rest of this crazy stuff and him smoking
crack or God knows what. He gives it to the FBI.
Ray does nothing. The director hides it from
Trump. People, let's just say inside that had
copies of that, they leak it to Rudolph Giuliani,
who then now has started to put it out. So instead
of facing up to it, they just say anyone promoting
this, whether it's the House or Senate committees
that were linking to it or the New York Post
or the president's press secretary, you're now
banned, which again shows it's election meddling.
It's gatekeeping to cover this up. I'll tell
you what else has come out now. His daughter,
Biden's daughters, purportedly, reportedly, and
they've not denied it now, this broke three days
ago, left her diary in a house that she had rented.
And the diary talks about all the same stuff
and everything. That is so convenient. What the
fuck is wrong with this family? Hold on a second.
Hold on. When I was looking into this, the thing
I keep seeing people say is that he lived in
California. He lived in California at the time.
That is true? That's what I keep reading. But
they fly back and forth to Delaware. These are
jet setters. They fly to Ukraine. It also might
make sense that that's why he didn't go back
to Delaware to pick up the laptop. Because when
you're cracked out in California, it's really
hard to make the flight. All right. Right? I
don't know. Tim is the only one here who's probably
smoked crack. Guys, the FBI confirms they have
the laptop now. I will confirm it's not an easy
flight coming down off cocaine or crack. Have
you smoked crack or just coke? I've never had
free -based cocaine, which is close. Yeah, it's
close. How close is it? Not as close as where
I ever went and made shady deals in the Ukraine.
I've never done that. By the way, that's in the
emails. That's in the emails. Finally, where
it's like, yeah, $30 million. Part of it goes
to the big guy. They're like, okay, we want to
meet with your dad. And there's photos of them
meeting and playing golf. So let me tell you,
this is real. The FBI has the files. They admit
it's real. It's a big deal. But it's a real problem
to ban this stuff from Twitter. Putin rejects
Donald Trump's criticism of Biden family business.
Well. Because it's Russia's bribing Hunter Biden.
3 .5 million through Putin, through the Moscow
mayor, who he's friends with, to Hunter Biden
again. Well, if I was Putin, I would deny it
too. Listen, Putin has got to love this. If I
was Putin sitting back watching these fucking
people eat themselves alive and destroy the First
Amendment, destroy democracy, and I'm sure they
have a hand in it. I'm sure China has a hand
in it. I'm sure Iran has a hand in it. This is
what the intelligence communities have been telling
us for a long time now is that it's not just
one foreign company or foreign country that's
trying to... fuck with our democracy. Yeah, the
idea that the Russians have a monopoly on this.
I mean, if the Russians were an NFL football
team, they'd be like the lower third. I mean,
the U .S. and China are the top teams. And we
should say the United States does it too. It's
100 % confirmed. The idea that Russians got Trump
in is asinine because here's what happens. Notice
they tried to impeach Trump just nine months
ago for stuff in Ukraine because whatever they
are worried about, they project. OK, so Trump
doesn't have Russia connections. Trump doesn't
have those connections. Trump doesn't have those
outside connections. You can't buy him. He doesn't
have lobbyists. The problem is. He then has family
and people around him that basically become lobbyists
for themselves. And Trump isn't really even aware
of it. And then that's going on. And I mean,
even junior aides now, you'll find out, have
people given him millions of dollars just to
say something to the president. Is this standard
shit? Is this just how politics have always been
done and just now we're seeing it? Well, it was
standard, let's say, 200 years ago that you'd
go out for the wife or the brother or somebody
that works at the White House. It got organized
the last 100 years with lobbyists. Trump literally
cut the lobbyists off. But all it did was now
make everyone around him a lobbyist, even though
they're not officially lobbyists. How did he
cut the lobbyists off? He just stopped meeting
with them and stopped and just said, I want briefings
on what's going on. I'll decide. So that's why
he pissed official Washington off. Not that he's
even perfect, but that he actually became the
president for making decisions himself instead
of having consortiums and lobbyists pay him for
policy. That's why he says, Biden's raised more
money than me. Of course, I can call up all these
companies. They'll give me any money I want,
but I've got to do what they say. But it would
put him in a compromised position. Yes, but I'm
being honest about it. The vacuum and the blind
spot is that then everyone around him in his
cabinet and everyone that works there, even down
to mid -level people, are now getting multi -million
dollar contracts for companies like... AT &T
and stuff, just to even mention something to
the president. Now, hold up. Before you go any
further, you said AT &T. Does it have been proven
that it's AT &T, or are you just saying AT &T
-like companies, like large companies? Let's
just say, I'm not saying AT &T is bad. I think
AT &T is overall a good company. But is AT &T
doing something bad? No, I just, I was mentioning
that as a Fortune 500 company. Okay, but it's
not AT &T. No, it's not AT &T. So we shouldn't
say that. See, this is why you need someone that's
like a fact checker right next to you. Go slow
down. The media will say I'm wrong about that,
but okay. No, no, hold on. His personal lawyer,
the one that ended up going to jail, actually
Michael Cohen was getting money from AT &T. Go
ahead and pull it up. I was just trying to give
you a gestalt quick analysis. But I just want
to... I've told you before, what you really need
on your show is like a legit journalist who's
right next to you with a laptop going, Alex,
hold on, hold on, just slow down. But I think
you're right about that. But you get so much
right, but when you get something wrong, that's
what people jump at. AT &T confirms it paid Trump
lawyer Michael Cohen's company. Yeah. No, I remember
that. See, Joe, they're always saying that I'm
making stuff up. They're lying. Now, every once
in a while, my memory used to be photographic,
but from everything I've done, it's not as good
as it used to be. It moves really quick, okay?
So when I'm saying stuff, it's just data knowledge,
okay? And then I can like, okay, yeah, did I
say that? Yeah, it's real. Check it out. But
I'm not trying to make stuff up 99 % of the time.
Here it is. AT &T confirmed Tuesday evening that
paid President Trump's personal lawyer, Michael
Cohen, in 2017 for, in quotes, insights into
understanding the new administration. Insights.
I love that. So how much did they pay him? $200
,000 and four separate payments of $50 in late
2017, early 2018. Interesting. Yeah, but he got
paid, I think the number was $10 million total
from a handful of companies. And by the way,
AT &T is - He did it shady. Look, Avenatti alleged
that Essential Consultants, a shell company set
up by Cohen before the election to pay Stormy
Daniels, was paid by several corporations, including
AT &T. At the time - AT &T was seeking government
approval for its acquisition of Time Warner,
CNN's parent company. It's a merger. It's a dirty
world! Yeah, but I'm telling you, AT &T is a
sweetheart compared to Google and Facebook and
Twitter and all these people. So I wasn't attacking
them. I was giving the example of how everyone
in his entourage becomes a lobbyist because he
thinks, I'll just cut lobbyists off. He's not
taking any money. But then everyone around him
becomes a lobbyist. Do you worry about the influence
that people like Jared Kushner have? Because
I know a lot of biggest... his supporters, like
Ann Coulter, who's Trump's biggest supporter,
goes, I don't love the idea that he hired his
children and that they have a lot of connections.
I can tell you this. I can tell you this. People
were really pissed who were patriots in the intelligence
community and in other areas, but also enemies
of Trump that Kushner had so much influence.
But now Kushner's gotten a lot of respect because
he's actually gotten a lot of huge peace deals
done that nobody else could do for 50 years.
interesting how little press those peace deals
yeah they're getting none no press yeah it's
really concerning so so now i mean they were
pissed like who's this kid and now everything
he touches turns to gold but he looks like the
omen we've covered he looks like a little devil
looks like yeah and he's paid he paid twice what
it was worth for like 666 park avenue oh jesus
christ that's not good that's not great why that's
not great why would he want that i think it was
more than twice look up 666, is it Park Avenue?
Listen, maybe he just thinks it's funny. Maybe
he's a Satanist. He's getting good deals done
in the Middle East. Yeah, I mean, he's getting
good deals. They say the Antichrist gets good
deals in the Middle East. If you're going to
be a Luciferian, at least make peace in the Mideast.
How about that? Maybe Satan's the only one that
can do that. AT &T's a really good cell phone
company. Yeah, right? Hey, hey, just the way
it works. I mean, you want to... When I mentioned
AT &T, it's an example that popped in my head
of unofficial lobbying. Well, I was happy that
we... called you on it because then we found
out it's correct. Yeah. Yeah. Look, you've been
correct about a lot of shit. This is my point
from jump. I found out about agent provocateurs
from you, from your 9 -11 Road to Tyranny video,
where they used them at the World Trade Organization
protests in Seattle in the late 90s. I had no
idea that it was a common practice to send in
masked people to start smashing things during
peaceful protests so then they could go in. By
the way, I can give you the straight dope on
Antifa if you want to do that. Go ahead. Okay.
Yeah. Hold on a second. 666 Park Avenue Project
had been a black hole of cash for years until
a sovereign wealth fund made a substantial investment
for the property after Kushner was already serving
as Trump's top advisor in the White House. Wow.
Okay. Might be a nice building. What does it
say? The Kushner Company? Is that what his company's
called? Yeah. His dad went to prison. The Kushner
Company's 666 Park Avenue Project. That's hilarious.
I think that's beautiful. His dad went to prison
for, I believe, setting up his brother with like
a prostitute. Yeah. Yeah. What? Yeah, they're
a fun family, the Kushners. Wait a minute, wait
a minute, wait a minute. The dad set up the brother?
With a prostitute, a cold girl, and take them
to try to get trapped. Okay, we are step by step.
We're going to fact check every one of these.
No, no, this is well known. This is well known.
I understand, but we need to have this for the
public. People like me and Alex don't just spout
off. We have the facts. I know you have the facts,
but I want to make sure. Here, Chris Christie,
Jared Kushner's father, committed one of the
most loathsome, disgusting crimes I prosecuted.
Wow. Wow. Listen, if we fact check all of this.
That is crazy. Make that bigger for my old eyes.
Look at this. What does it say? According to
the excerpts in the book, Republics by Axios
and the Guardian, Christie claims the younger
Kushner was behind his departure from Trump's
inner circle after a 2016 election, writing that
he was still apparently seething over the events
that had occurred a decade ago. What is the events
of a decade ago? They over -prosecuted his dad.
He should have gotten probation for trying to
set up his brother with a hooker. Said he got
a bunch of time. Imagine your dad setting you
up with a hooker. It's crazy. Trying to set the
other family member up. Here's what... If my
father is guilty, I would. Mr. Kutcher pled guilty.
He admitted the crimes, Christy said. And so
what am I supposed to do as a prosecutor? I mean,
if a guy hires a prostitute to seduce his brother
-in -law. Oh, it's his brother -in -law. That's
what he said. His brother -in -law. His brother
-in -law. Okay. I got confused. And then videotapes
it and then sends the videotape to his sister
to attempt to intimidate her from testifying
before a grand jury. Do I really need any more
justification than that? Holy shit, what a bad
guy. But it wasn't to intimidate. That's his
interpretation. That stuff goes on divorces all
the time. People go videotape the other person
cheating. That's why it was wrong he went to
prison because he was doing that to show that
the person testifying was wrong. Of course you're
trying to influence testimony with the truth.
It's this idea that, yes, they're cheating. I
told you they were. Here's the proof. How does
that become fraud? Okay, I'm confused. So he
set up his brother -in -law with a prostitute.
To show that this was been going on before, which
he'd already alleged. Okay, as part of the plot,
Kushner hired a prostitute to lure Shoulder into
having sex in a Bridgewater, New Jersey motel
room. First of all, if you find yourself in a
Bridgewater, New Jersey motel room. You're fucked.
Run. As the hidden camera rolls, a tape of the
encounter was then sent to Kushner's sister and
shoulders. I know the whole story, so just trust
us. I just made a comment that. You start thinking
about, like, who's running these stories, and
then Hunter Biden's running around with underage
people on a laptop. You start going, why does
everyone work for a Ukrainian gas company? Like,
who are these people running the country? It's
a little strange. Yeah, the West controlled Ukraine,
so they just use that as the money laundering
op. It's not the Ukrainians running us. Right.
They use it as that. But let's expand on this,
Joe. What I'm getting at here is, I didn't bring
up AT &T. They're a good company overall. They're
not the ones censoring and stuff. Okay? It's
the big tech. the reason I raised that was just
the one that pops in my head. The first one.
It's massive what's going on. I'm just being
honest that Trump's tried to... Well, it's only
a couple hundred grand. I mean, as much as that
sounds like a lot of money... Yeah, but the bigger
ones, like he's talking about... Communist China.
Amazon. Communist China's even bigger. It's bigger
than big tech. It literally spends hundreds of
billions of dollars buying us off. It owns Hollywood.
It owns a lot of the big telecoms. It owns the
majority of our debt. And I've got articles in
the LA Times and New York Times I brought for
you where they say Xi Jinping must destroy Trump
to save America. He was our leader. And then
at the Davos Group... He said three years ago,
I will destroy Trump. I will work with Hollywood.
I've got all his quotes right here. And Xi Jinping
said, I want to overthrow American democracy.
I want to repudiate it. I want to discredit it.
And Xi Jinping admits he admires Adolf Hitler
and Joseph Stalin. Okay, but isn't he doing that?
That seems crazy. You can pull it up. I understand.
I'll show you. Step by step. Isn't he doing that
because of Trump's trade deals? Like the trade
deals that Trump wants to do with China are not
nearly. Well, they're not one sided for him.
Here's what happened. Special interests in the
U .S. went in and opened up China, you know,
in the 70s when most of them didn't have running
water or electricity. They're hardworking, smart
folks. But by one sided trade deals where we
have higher tariffs on them than they on us and
all the rest of it or vice versa through those
deals. They use the slave labor of China to then
take over manufacturing worldwide. And so China
is a client state of the globalist. And so now
the Washington Post, the L .A. Times, the New
York Times, I brought you the articles here.
Dreams of Red Emperor, the Relentless Rise of
Xi Jinping. And it says in these articles, he
must destroy American Western Christian values.
We love him and we accept China as our master.
I have the goddamn article. Right, but who's
saying that? This is treason. Dude, right here,
Washington Post. But who's saying that quote?
Who's that quote? Here, I'll give them to you.
This is the Washington Post, and there's a huge
article, L .A. Times. I understand, but the quote
that you just said about he must destroy Trump.
Just like I said AT &T gave money to unofficially
lobbying, and you pulled it up. I read the article.
I'm not giving you an exact— I understand what
you're saying, but what I'm asking you is who
you quoted someone, but who did you quote when
you said that? I'm quoting from when I read these
again this morning before I came here, what I
remember, David Don— Dury, Durley. Oh, that guy.
And this Chinese lady that works for the - I
think he's talking about the prevailing sentiment
of what they feel they must do. I understand,
but when you quote somebody, it's best to - No,
no, no. I just said in these articles, well,
look at the headline. Xi's choice, destroy Trump
or save him from weakened America. I mean - Xi
needs to destroy Trump. The Chinese dictator
needs to destroy our president. So do you think
that they're doing that because Trump wants to
change the trade deals with China? You know what
Trump said? Trump didn't start a trade war. He
ended our surrender. We have been surrendered
for 40 years. with China where they don't take
our goods but we take all of theirs and they
manipulate their currency but we haven't manipulated
ours where we have carbon taxes that Obama put
in to shut down over half our coal plants that
are clean and our electricity prices went up
where you could not run a factory here competitively
against China so when Joe Biden says we're going
to cut off all the fossil fuels not just fracking
right if you did that we wouldn't just go bankrupt
we'd starve to death 75 percent of our power
comes from fossil fuels I understand let's step
by step again Are coal plants really clean? 100
% clean. How is that possible? I'll tell you.
Please. There's two different types of major
power plants. When he says clean coal, I roll
my eyes every time. When Trump's like, clean
coal, clean. Well, that's because the engine
is so damn good. Is it? I'll tell you. Please.
They had old -fashioned coal plants. China doesn't
have one scrubber or filter on their coal power
plants. And China doesn't have clean burning
coal. There's one place in the United States
that has major deposits of coal that is such
pure carbon. You don't even need scrubbers. Nothing
comes out but carbon dioxide and water. Well,
they know we know water's not bad, so they list
carbon dioxide. People think it's monoxide. It's
like in studies, if you say the scientific name
of water, most people in... Penn and Teller skits
on the street will say ban dihydrogen monoxide.
If you go out on the street, Joe Rogan, and ask
100 Austinites, dihydrogen monoxide is everywhere.
If you get too much of it, you can die, drown.
And most people will say, I want to ban dihydrogen
monoxide. That's the scientific name of water.
Same thing if you do the scientific name of salt.
Sounds scary. Well, so hydrogen monoxide is the
bad one. Hydrogen dioxide is a good one. That's
the life cycle. On Earth, there's light. There's
water. Oxygen and there's carbon dioxide. Those
are the four things you've got to have for life.
And so they've gotten people convinced to say
coal is dirty. It puts out carbon dioxide and
water vapor. And so until about the 70s, we were
still burning dirty coal full of mercury, all
of it. They found huge deposits of clean burning
coal out west. Enough in Utah to run the whole
world for over a thousand years. Well, what's
the difference between the coal? Well, let me
tell you. One coal is so damn pure and it's only
in the United States in major deposits. that
basically you don't even need to put scrubbers
on it. But our scientists in the 40s, 50s, 60s,
and 70s, because they realized that dirty coal
has mercury in it, has all these horrible toxins,
they put scrubbers on it. That's why when you
drive by a coal plant, it's this big, huge buildings
and wires and hoses and big, huge steel. It looks
like an alien spaceship. That's because it's
called distillates. They know how to burn it
and then take off all the chemicals, all the
toxins, and make plastics and make chemicals
and make pesticides and make everything else
that comes out of that. And then out of the stack
comes nothing but water. sensors on it nothing
but water and carbon dioxide totally clean totally
pure so so that's what's going on so carbon monoxide
is what everybody's worried about carbon dioxide
increasing in the environment has no negative
effects let's talk about it they've done they've
done ice core samples okay all over the antarctic
and the arctic they've done mud core samples
uh in in all over the world but mainly in siberia
and wales for some reason jamie i hope you're
googling i haven't Got some decent stuff to pull
up, but he's better right now. So what happens
is they can go back 20 ,000, 100 ,000, 200 ,000
years, at least in the ice, and they know that
they've also done spectrometers into stone. They
can scan it until it was there. Carbon dioxide
was over 500 times stronger in the time of the
T -Rex. okay in the jurassic age that's why plants
grew so fast things were so big there was a higher
oxygen level just like mars lost its atmosphere
used to have an ocean they've now gone and proven
it lost its atmosphere as a smaller planet couldn't
hold it truth is the earth's losing its atmosphere
so what's crazy is we come right along at this
time pump up all of this juice and all this carbon
that was produced on the surface with plants
and animals that ran down and cracks into the
earth we're now pumping out all that carbon saved
for millions years ago and actually terraforming
the planet putting more carbon dioxide in that
we actually need right this time like aliens
figure this out but hold please but hold please
isn't carbon dioxide responsible for an increase
in the temperature of the earth but they said
that we would have a seven increase they said
that by 2013 all that la would be flooded to
new york people flooded all that's lies okay
but let's forget about what they said in the
past what they're saying now is that carbon dioxide
increase is responsible for an increase in the
temperature of the Earth. Which we hope it does.
We hope it increases the temperature of the Earth.
The last ice age. Hold on. The increase in the
temperature of the Earth is responsible for the
increase in hurricanes, the frequency and the
power of the hurricanes. If you look up the spectrum
in the last hundred years, hurricanes have gotten
weaker. That's all media hype. But let me just
tell you. Oh, Jesus. Joe, Joe, Joe, I swear to
God. I swear to God I can prove all this to you.
This is so huge for your audience. Are you a
carbon dioxide salesman? Listen, well, they always
say I'm getting money from oil companies. I'm
not. But can I please tell you what's going on?
Yes, please do. You are a carbon -based life
form. Let me show you what I came here with in
my notes. I have right here in my notes the carbon
conspiracy. And that is specifically what I wanted
to get into here. with you in my notes because
this is everything are you a climate change denier
well see see imagine imagine how that's how they
use that term right are you a climate change
denier it's like a 9 -11 denier right no the
towers got blown up our government had prior
warning and had been funding al -qaeda and all
that came out later in senate reports and the
28 let's not go there just now because we're
going to go down that that's true but let's go
to carbon i that i agree with you there okay
what are you what is what is what is what is
joe rogan made up out of carbon Carbon -based
life form. We are literally stardust. It's a
song, right? Exactly. What are trees made out
of? Tree stuff? Carbon. Carbon. Yeah, carbon
-based life forms. The whole planet. And so this
is the carbon cycle. This is in the mainline
textbooks. I understand. So just like they come
out in assault reality now and say a little boy
is biologically a girl. I don't care if he grows
up and wants to be a girl. Again, rabbit hole.
Let's not go down these rabbit holes. But I'm
saying it's not science. They go, the science
is settled. There's not two genders. B -fucking
-S. Okay, hold on. Let's not go down that road.
Do you want to go down that road in the future?
We will. I'll do it. I'll do it. Let me tell
you. I want you to talk about carbon. I know.
I don't want to get off track. Because isn't
there a delicate balance with the temperature
on Earth and the rising sea levels and the melting
of the ice caps? This has all been established
by a lot of very concerned environmentalists.
But very concerned environmentalists have said
that an increase in the temperature of the Earth
could be disastrous for human civilization. It's
a power grab. Are you sure it's a power grab?
Absolutely. But how do you know that it's not
all... How do you know that... Because they're
arrogant and they've all written white papers
on it that I've read and I can give you. white
papers yeah it's not what you see in the news
they're called white papers and joe just like
joe this is why people get banned from the internet
this this these kind of conversations we better
ban it right now let's not ban it i'm just not
i'll throw that out let's just certainly not
ban the youtube page let me tell you the story
fantastic by the way what your youtube page thank
you let me tell you this right now It'll be up
for another 24 hours. They have called in the
European Union for the arrest of scientists that
question the cause of anthropogenic warming or
Ibbots man -made. Okay, but there is a contributing
factor. Scientifically, it's been proven that
increased carbon dioxide has an effect on the
temperature of the Earth. Do you agree with that?
It depends on the models they use. Sometimes,
actually, more carbon dioxide could cause a cooling
effect, but generally could cause a heating effect.
It depends on potash in the atmosphere, volcanic
ejections at the time, and also solar maximum
and minimums. Sunspot activity is the main generator
of planetary climate. But the wide... If you
had a giant swath of scientists that are examining
carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, would you agree
that the majority of them believe that it's a
contributing factor to the warming of the Earth?
Joe, it's a mantra where they say the majority
of scientists agree that climate change is caused
by humans. I agree with climate change. The only
thing that's constant is change. Of course the
climate's changing. What I'm telling you is carbon
dioxide was 50 to 500 times, depending on the
time period, millions of years ago, and it is
now. But you also realize that that was before
we got hit by an asteroid. This might be interesting
to hear. What do you think the motivation is
for them to present the evidence in this way?
Like you said, this is a fraud and everything.
Because I've heard you talk about this before.
What do you think their goal is by linking all
of this climate change to man -made activity?
What's the goal? The goal is a centralized world
government that can then monitor all carbon and
control it as a toxic bad thing. You're carbon.
It makes you bad. That didn't work. So now it's,
oh, you have a cold. You're dirty with COVID.
We've got to track you and tax you and control
you. So the new thing is COVID to cut the carbon
footprint. Before we go down the COVID rabbit
hole. The environmentalists are not in bed with
the industrialists. The environmentalists, they're
not in bed with all these people that think that
they can control the world. Actually, BP and
ExxonMobil and others are the biggest funders
of the climate change movement. They're the biggest
funders of it? Contrary to what you hear. How
so? Joe, here's the thing. I understand this,
and you're a smart guy. And I understand you
want to go over each piece of this. Let's go
through. Well, we have to. We have to. I agree.
Let's go through each piece. But understand,
you understand that the way you talk, and I enjoy
the way you talk. It's fast. But the way you
talk is fast. And you go on these long tangents.
And then you go to frogs being gay. And a lot
of things happen. I want to do it. Because I'm
putting a record out. Yes. But I want to do it
step by step. All right. Let's do this. Let's
do this. Let's do this. But most people, the
vast majority. Here we got here. BP commits $100
million to fund new emissions reductions projects.
But let me just go back for a second. I appreciate
you backing me up. Let me break down. Are frogs
gay? You want to get to the frog stuff now? Connect
it all. Why do I feel like I'm stoned and I haven't
smoked my pot? If he's not going to smoke it,
I'm going to smoke it. Break the goddamn rule
and then go an extra day. I cannot. I'm like
George Washington. On election night, we're going
to get hammered, right? Election night. I'm getting
hammered. I'm going to pop in. You can pop in.
But we've told everybody now that we're doing
a live election night show. No, no, no, we're
not. Kyle Kalinske, Tim Dillon, me, Alex Jones
is going to pop in live. It's going to be fun.
It's live. So while you're watching the world
burn, live. All right, Joe, here's the thing.
It's just like, let me explain it to you because
I love you. Dude, it's just like when you said,
what's the AT &T deal? And I went, oh, look it
up. But listen, we did look it up. And we found
this information. This is bigger. Okay. Let me
get my brain focused here for a minute. Let me
just try to explain it. Please do. I've literally
interviewed probably, let's not exaggerate, 200
top scientists from petroleum geologists to astrophysicists
to astronauts to quantum mechanics to petroleum.
Buckle up because I have two. I know. I'm a moron.
I know. Okay. You're a moron? Yeah. No, you're
not. Yeah, trust me. Joe, you're a smart guy.
That's his cover. He is smart. Oh, yeah, right.
Yeah, right. I'm a smart moron. Yeah, right.
Okay, let me tell you what's going on. I'm going
to say it again. You can go to any major study.
Just type in carbon dioxide levels were hundreds
of times higher in Earth's... early past. Well,
I understand that, but also I understand that...
You can look at the ocean models then. You can
look at the ocean models, and it's true, the
oceans did cover more than they did now. But
Alex Jones, human beings weren't alive 65 million
years ago, and the environment wasn't compatible
for us. We put out a fraction and we hadn't developed
yet. Well, we were moles. Shrews. But my point
is, you're right, is that... Last time CO2 was
this high, humans didn't exist. The last time
there was as much carbon dioxide, CO2 in the
earth. CO2 levels are far higher now than they
have been for any time during the past. And oil,
a single CO2 molecule can remain in the atmosphere.
What did you do? Oh, I see. I understand. Oh,
okay. So let's just go to what this says. And
what is this paper? Is this climate? Central
.org. Okay. The last time there was this much
carbon dioxide in the Earth's atmosphere, modern
humans didn't exist. Mega 2 sharks prowled the
oceans, blah, blah, blah. All right. As we near
the record for the highest CO2 concentrations
in human history, 400 parts per million, climate
scientists worry about where we were then and
where we're rapidly headed now, according to
the data gathered by... Mauna Loa Observatory
in Hawaii. Dope spot. The 400 ppm mark may briefly
be exceeded this month when CO2 typically hits
a seasonal peak. Sure, and I've had top scientists
on, I've had climatologists on about the Keeling
curve. I can tell you all this. ...threshold
according to Ralph Keeling, the researcher. Carbon
dioxide is the most important long -lived global
warming gas. And once it's emitted by burning
fossil fuels... It helps us keep our atmosphere.
Hold, please. Hold, please. Once it's emitted
by burning fossil fuels such as coal and oil,
a single CO2 molecule can remain in the atmosphere
for hundreds of years. Global CO2 emissions reached
a record high of 35 .6 billion tons in 2012,
of 2 .6 % from 2011. Carbon dioxide and other
greenhouse gases warm the planet by absorbing
the sun's energy and preventing heat from escaping
back into space, which means it enhances the
atmosphere, right? But the sea levels didn't
go up like they said. Well, aren't they melting?
Al Gore said by 2013... Al Gore. Joe, listen,
this is one guy's take. I know, but Al Gore's
out there flying around. I know, I know. You
found a guy admitting it used to be higher than
it is now. I'm telling you, it used to be way
higher than it is now. Right, but then the asteroid
hit the Yucatan, killed all the dinosaurs, and
changed the entire atmosphere. I don't want to...
Of the planet. With a dark winter. Yeah, it was
very bad for everything. Caused by atmospheric
dust. For a long fucking time. One major volcano,
like Mount St. Helens, they estimated, put out
more dust than decades of human dust. Yes. And
human dust is what helps cause nuclei to form
to cause storms. So we are affecting our environment.
But most of the astrophysicists and most of the
physicists I've talked to, most of the climatologists
I've talked to. They have broken down that the
sun, by magnitude, is 98 % of the driver of what
happens. That's why when the sunspots take place,
it's an eronal ejection. from the sun. And one
of those shoots radiation in our direction. It'll
be clear blue sky, but, but they know when we
get hit by that, it hits our magnetic field and
causes an ionization of the atmosphere and electrification
of it. And so that causes the giant storms. So
the main driver of climate is the sun. And I
think everybody doesn't be a scientist to know
what's the main thing that earth living off of
the sun, the sun. And so, and so they're telling
us that carbon dioxide does this. What happens
is, is carbon dioxide goes up. They said can
be in the atmosphere for hundreds of years. It's
normally absorbed by plants immediately who they've
got studies. They have found giant crocodile
skeletons from just 10 ,000 years ago in the
central Sahara when hundreds of square miles
is nothing but dunes. 10 ,000 years ago, it was
lush jungles and beautiful, but they had goats,
and they ate all of the plants and killed the
roots. Well, there's also the Younger Dryas theory
of asteroid impacts that ended the Ice Age. 12
,000 years ago. Well, two impacts. I believe
there's 12 and then somewhere between 11 and
12. But the answer is we don't know. And so they've
now looked at all these big models saying that
it's all carbon dioxide, and it's not. It's the
sun. It's asteroids. tectonic. It's electromagnetic
from the Earth's core. I understand all this,
but isn't CO2 emissions the one thing that we
can control? So human created global warming
gas is like CO2 emissions. If we can put a cap
on that, wouldn't you agree? Let me ask you a
question. But if we continue to put that stuff
in the atmosphere and it continues to get higher
and higher and higher levels of CO2 in the atmosphere,
wouldn't that... It's going to make... The studies
show it's going to make deserts become green
again and plants are going to absorb the carbon.
What studies are these? You can look them up.
Okay, let's find out. And that's why the left
even says... But if you're going to say something
like that, and I'm not arguing with you, but
if you are going to say something like that,
that's a very bold thing to say, you should probably...
Not just say look them up. There should be something.
Let's type it in. Let's type it in. There's hundreds
of them. I actually brought like over 50 articles
right here. Do you have something that you've
read that makes you so confident that you can
say this? I actually know what the plant studies
show, where in greenhouses, they grow plants
with higher carbon dioxide. And plants can grow
up to three times faster. They live longer. Of
course. Plants live off carbon dioxide. And what
do they put out more? Oxygen. Well, this one
thing that has been proven is that there's more
plants now. than there have been in a long time.
There's a global greening happening, countering
us losing our atmosphere up until this point.
The earth has less atmosphere than it did a million
years ago. And it's like God did this or something
where we discovered all this oil, which is blind
luck that we are terraforming the planet back
to an earlier, healthier state by taking ancient
carbon that was under the ground and putting
it back into the atmosphere. But isn't the problem
that along the way we're also increasing the
temperature of the planet and we are not aligned
with a higher temperature? Here's the truth.
We don't know. We don't know. But in 1963, the
Club of Rome came up with a limits to growth
plan. And they had models and actuaries. And
I have copies of this in my film, Endgame. Seminal
film. It's free online. Endgame, blueprint for
global enslavement, predicts a virus release
to lock things down. Everything's now happening
because it's in their own documents. In the 1963
Limits to Growth Club of Rome plan, they said,
we believe there'll be a global ice age by 2020
because the last ice age ended about 12 ,000
years ago and we're set for that. We're going
to tell the public that actually carbon dioxide
in the atmosphere is bouncing solar radiation
off the earth. Because we've seen volcanoes cause
this darkening effect in freezing. So we believe,
our scientists believe, that carbon dioxide is
going to make the Earth freeze by 2020. And so
we've got to have a global regime to take control
of all the factories and all the energy and put
a tax in for global government in the name of
stopping the ice age. Then by about 1987, they
went, actually, we think it's going to heat up
instead. So they flipped the propaganda. Ask
anybody you know. Okay, but don't you understand
that science back then did... didn't have as
much data as they have now. So their models and
what they predicted in 1963 is faulty compared
to the information they have in 2020. Yeah, just
like Fauci said 2 .5 million would be dead from
COVID, it was 207 ,000. But worldwide, what is
it? Worldwide, tuberculosis killed 20 million
people, 1 .4 million here last year, but nobody
cares. COVID killed a lot of people worldwide.
COVID's not even killed a million worldwide.
What? Not even a million worldwide. No, is that
true? Yep. Come on. Well, how do we know? Oh,
we use UN models. Again, they're our boss. Since
when did the WHO say the lockdown has to go on?
Now they go, oh, we're against the lockdown.
Your nation states that it's their fault because
they know millions are starving to death from
the lockdown. That is true and very underreported.
The WHO has now come out against lockdown saying
that the reaction can't be a worse effect than
the actual disease itself. So let me back Alex
up with the climate change. There's certainly,
you know, we're contributing to man -made global
warming. But also, what are you going to do?
What are we going to do? I don't know. What's
going on? I mean, that's the other question.
What are we going to do? Why does his mic sound
weird? Is it hot? Is he on it? Or is it how I'm
hearing it? I'm hearing like a breakup of his
mic. Sounds good to me. Sounds fine to me, yeah.
That's weird. Okay. I'm sorry. It must be me.
Jamie's really low. You sound great. He sounds
good. Yeah. Okay. What is the climate control?
Because that's very interesting. Like the idea
of using climate to... Because... As you said
with COVID, and we talked about this, we give
up a lot of rights, right, in the name of coronavirus.
Exactly. Look, there's real issues. We don't
really know what's going on. They want to be
able to track all carbon and tax it with an AI
surveillance grid with a social credit score
over it. Yeah. And they admit all of that. Joe,
they tell us what they're going to do. Okay,
I understand that. But do you understand that
the environmentalists who are concerned are not
– there's a giant – amount of them that are legitimately
concerned that we're ruining the earth yes i
understand the greenhouse effect fossil fuel
i understand the greenhouse effect but these
people the reason why they're acting the reason
why they're trying to get people on electric
cars and trying to get people off the fossil
fuels hold up please they're legitimately concerned.
Like, I don't believe that these actual environmentalists
are in on something. Sure, I agree with you,
but I mean, here's the deal. The new Hummer looks
badass. Here's the deal. Here's the deal. But
I'm not getting one because I don't want to contribute
to global warming. You don't want to contribute
to global warming? Listen, be serious. Did you
know, did you know that on average more carbon
is spent for electricity into a car than 93 octane
gasoline? Well, I would believe that because
I would think it takes a lot to make a fucking
electric car. But once the car is made. No, no,
no. Transmission lines. You lose up to half of
transmission and most of it's coal powered, brother.
So most of the electricity. Per megawatt, it's
more. So when I'm plugging my Tesla in and I
think, because that's how I like to think, I'm
a good guy. I'm plugging my Tesla in. I'm helping
save the world. I'm not because I'm contributing
to power. No, you're driving. You're contributing
to putting carbon dioxide back in and oxygen
and re -terraforming the planet. You're doing
a badass job. The biggest energy guzzlers, electric
cars are badass. They are putting out more carbon
than anybody. Yeah. They don't come out the tailpipe.
They come out the power plant top. Woo. I love
electric cars. Carbon. Yeah. Team carbon. Carbon.
Carbon. Carbon. Okay. How do you feel? about
nuclear power i absolutely hate it why do you
hate it isn't it clean 94 joe i'm not trying
to tear you up don't tear me up i don't know
anything i told you i'm a moron no no no no i
used to be for nuclear power oh what happened
i actually did research what research did you
do um they're always saying it's totally clean
no problem But then you can look at the UN's
own numbers, which I believe, International Atomic
Energy Agency. Look this up, CBS News. 94 % of
nuclear plants are leaking at dangerous levels.
Look this up. Pause. Jamie, 94 % of nuclear power
plants are leaking at dangerous levels. Isn't
the problem that we're using old tech like Fukushima?
Now you see you're smart. You always know everything,
Joe. The average power plant age is 36 years.
Almost all these power plants' life is 20 to
35 years. Fukushima was already a decade older
than it was supposed to be, a general electric
model, using plutonium. Radioactive leaks found
at 75 % of U .S. nuke sites. Yeah, it's worse
than that. It's 94%. Okay, well, that's not good.
I don't know why 94 doesn't pop up. But wouldn't
it be possible with innovation that they currently
have access to? Yes, yes. You talk about corrupt
companies. Listen, if people actually ran these
right, and the executives, here's an example,
BP. I think oil's great. It has toxic problems.
We should clean it up. We should find alternatives.
There's all sorts of clean energy we should go
to that, you know, isn't. Solar's great, whatever.
They've got fission, fusion, a bunch of stuff
coming down. Take one of the best films out there
because it's so accurate because I had lawyers
on from the, I read the transcript of the trial,
the Event Horizon with BP. They literally have
all these degreed engineers out there and BP.
calls them up from England to Houston and says,
you're spending $25 million a day on this super
deep experimental whale. We've decided to not
pour concrete, they call it mud, in on top of
this. The executives say we'll save $25 million
a day if you dump water. And all the engineers
went, we have mathematical equations, just like
water boils at a certain amount. Okay, or we
have a certain number of chromosomes. This is
fact. And they, on record, go, you're fired if
you don't order them to dump water into it. So
they follow the order, dump water in for five
days, and it blows up because water didn't have
enough pressure to hold what was going to be
coming out when they finally hit that giant oil
and gas deposit down there at 20 ,000 feet under
the ground or whatever it was. Super deep well.
It was deeper than that. You watch that movie
with Kirk Russell and the rest of it and Marky
Mark. Wasn't Event Horizon the one where they
find... I'm sorry, Event Horizon is where they
go... Event Horizon is a spaceship. Yeah, that's
right. I'm sorry. I'm trying to remember oil
in Event Horizon. I'm like, wait a minute. Lawrence
Fishburne, right? Yeah, I think. They go to hell.
Here's my brain. Deepwater Horizon. Deepwater
Horizon. Pull up Event Horizon because that's
a great fucking movie. I love that movie. It's
like they go into hell. They go into a new dimension.
It's a good one. Also about BP. But see how my
brain got that wrong? It was not on purpose.
No, it's okay. That's the shit. He pulls his
eyeballs out. He tells everybody. Yeah, remember
that? Yeah. That's a great fucking movie. Pure
evil. Listen, I'm not trying to rant here. What
I'm telling you, Joe, is it's the same thing
with nuclear power plants. Why would the executives
at BP? Order their engineers to do something
that was going to blow up. They just said, you
engineers are full of crap. We're going to make
money. Do you think they might just be arrogant
engineers on Adderall and they made a big mistake?
Well, no, no. Yeah, that's what happened. Could
be. Could be. That's what happened. That is what
happened? Well, those guys are probably tweaked
out, right? Those executives. What I'm saying,
it wasn't engineers. It was the executives. Yeah,
but executives. That's what I'm saying. Why do
you think they were like, keep pouring water
in it, keep pouring water in it? Because they
were insane. Right. I mean, that's what I'm saying
about these nuclear... Okay, so the engineers
are at the mercy of these executives who don't
have the degrees the engineers have, and they
made a crucial error, and they forced the engineers
to do something that was ultimately... And so
I was agreeing with you about we should listen
to scientists and engineers. I was just going
back to your point that, yeah, we don't know
about the warming. We don't know what it's doing.
The models they all use on warming... factor
out the sun right and you can't factor out the
sun in an equation I've had other scientists
that factor the sun in and they think despite
all we're doing that within the next 200 years
we're going to a very serious deep ice age I
think Alex's point is that In all of these things,
there are legitimate things. You know, COVID
has, there are real things, people getting sick,
global warming, you know, to an extent, I'm sure
is happening. Of course it's happening. But then
there are also nefarious characters that want
to use that to take away your freedom. There
are people that don't want you owning a car.
There's all these legacy systems. Whitney Webb,
who's a journalist who came on my show, said
a lot of people didn't want to reopen the economy
until they remade the economy and got rid of
all these legacy systems. Like, and this is a
doc with Eric Schmidt, who was the head of Google.
look it up and they were saying you know they
were considering these legacy systems like cash
private ownership of cars you know things like
that like getting rid of all of these things
that are are distinctly american ways of life
and just saying that like we don't want you to
own a car this is the most important thing that's
been said here today that's why i'm here one
step at a time though why would they want to
get rid of Private ownership of cars. Because
they want control of people. And if you allow
them to drive their own cars and use cash and
run their own businesses and live in their own
homes. Okay, but let's start with cars. Vertical
integration. Let's start with cars. Don't you
think that maybe the concern is they're looking
at the future of autonomous vehicles, which would
drastically lower the mortality rate on highways,
and they're saying this is probably— I mean,
are they concerned? Are the people that run this
country, Joe, concerned with the mortality rate?
I mean, they're bombing other countries to doing
this, to doing that. Okay, but stop, stop, stop.
They want centralized control. Hold, please.
We're complaining. Steve Wozniak, the founder
of Apple, says the best AI is not as good as
an ant's brain. Hold this thought. Yeah. But
hold this thought. The mortality rate on highways.
Listen, you can't think that the people— These
people are in the woods with hoods up. But the
people at Google... that are working on autonomous
vehicles, they're not the same people that are
trying to control governments all outside the
world. But it's controlled by those guys. All
of those people at Google want to usher in a
brave new world. They want to remake the world
in the way that they want to. But you're saying
all these people, some of them are just writing
software to make a better picture. Some of them
are. But there's a lot of them that are not,
Joe. I feel like I'm the fucking voice of reason.
How is this possible? They're the tech utopians.
I'm not high. I should be high. I'd be right
along with you. Joe. These are utopians. They
want to create a paradise on Earth. Joe, I brought
you. Through control. I brought you the documents,
Joe. I'm sucking on this cigar. Joe, we have
the documents. I'm sucking on this cigar like
it's a jelly donut. I'm hoping I can get to the
weed on the inside. I'm like, I'm licking the
outside. What do you got there? A piece of paper?
Take it. What does it say? What does it say?
What does it say? I think it's confirming what
I just said. Looking forward to the end of humanity.
What is this? See? Okay, but it's a person who
wrote this. It's Adam Kerr. She's probably got
a pistol in his mouth right now. No, that's the
Wall Street Journal cover story. I don't really
mean that, Adam. I apologize. That's the Wall
Street Journal cover story. May I please tell
you what I came here for? You came here for a
reason? Yes. Hold on. Here it is. COVID -19 has
spotlighted the promise and peril of transhumanism,
the idea of using technology to overcome sickness,
aging, and death. Okay, but what is he saying?
I used to fall asleep every night listening to
Alex talk about this. So I want to let Alex talk
about this. Until they took him off YouTube.
He was the way I fell asleep every night. Not
only did they do that, but do you know they fucking
took a Young Turks podcast? Young Turks podcast
yesterday off of Facebook. Let's talk about that
in a minute. Can we get some weed into you? Progressive.
Yeah, we can get some. We got some on the outside.
No, you need it. No, I can't. I'll blow it at
you like you got a cat high. Does that not cheat
it if I blow it in your face? I can't do it.
I'll blow it in your face. I can't do it. Listen,
I'm getting kind of hot from this cigar. Listen,
I need to talk to you. I'm a little lightheaded.
All right, I'm going to go get some apple juice,
and I'm going to pray to Jesus. We've got some
in here. Listen, I need to talk to you. Just
go grab some bottles and some ice. Get him some
apple juice for the transhumanism discussion,
please. Listen, you want to know why I'm so crazy?
No. Because I discovered this stuff right out
of mainline documents, and I've known it for
26 years, 27 years. Well, here's another thing.
Let me tell you something. Like, we all know
that you've fucked some things up, right? And
your biggest fuck up is Sandy Hook. But you've
gotten so many things right. And this is why
I keep talking to you about these things and
why I defend you and why I think that it's fucking
dangerous to censor you and to say, oh, this
guy, we need to get him deplatformed and get
all these things. You're revealing some things
that have been proven on this show so far to
be true. That make people very uncomfortable.
Well, the first thing I was going to do was thank
you for having me on and having the courage.
But I was going to say the fucking Bohemian Grove
thing. The Bohemian Grove thing. That was the
first time I really got into what he was doing.
And that was like amazing. I mean, when you watch
that movie, watch that, you know, it's paradigm
shifting. I've had people try to minimize that.
I've had people try to. Yes, they all do. I go,
listen to me. I'm not a billionaire. Well, I'll
give you the real take on it because I've been
there. And I think it's just a gateway to things.
But let's get into Bohemian Grove in a moment.
I really want to give you the big enchilada.
The big enchilada. Okay. Just have mole sauce.
Yes, sir. I love mole sauce. I do, too. Just
like I'm saying, the engineers, meanwhile, a
lot of them have good points. I'm not saying
they're wrong about all this stuff. I'm simply
telling you I've read what the globalists have
to say in their own establishment communication.
Okay. And I have it right here in my notes to
talk to you about the post -human era. And the
system that they are setting up, where in all
of their main publications they say humans are
flawed, humans are bad. But they are. But they
are flawed, right? But then these corporations
are saying they're going to take us out of our
bodies and make us silicon. And that's what Elon
Musk talks about. Beware of those that worship
AI gods. Well, he's actually talking about Neuralink,
which is something where they're going to be
able to interface with your brain and increase
the bandwidth in which you access information.
But go ahead. Well, that's it. But it seems inevitable,
doesn't it? No, it's not inevitable. Already,
driverless cars don't know a wreck up ahead or
what to do. They have more accidents. Steve Wozniak,
as I was saying earlier, the co -founder of Apple,
says the best AI isn't a million percent close
to how good an ant's brain is. Stop, stop, stop,
stop, stop. When they first developed cars, they
said, well, how are you going to take them? There's
no roads. Sure. AI powered roads. Here's the
deal. Do you understand that the AI that's powering
these cars now is not as good? Do you understand
the people running the AI are predatory anti
-humans that said they want to get rid of us?
Elon Musk is not a predatory anti -human. No,
I didn't say he was. But I understand he's working
on autonomous vehicles. He said beware those
that speak of AI gods. Yes. Okay, a lot of people
are worried. Look, Elon is more concerned. Don't
give me one of those. You keep that shit away
from me, motherfucker. No, no, no, no. He doesn't
drink. I'm good, thank you. He's sober. Hey,
Rogan. Look at all this extra fucking... I'm
sitting next to Alex Jones. I'm as high as I
can be. Election night. Okay, but listen. Listen,
election night, we're going to get lit. But these
guys who are making this... It's like in Hollywood.
This is fake. This is only corn syrup coloring.
Do you think this is a good idea, though, this
idea that we should be expanding our minds in
this way and putting chips in our— I don't think
it's good or bad. I think it is the nature of
human innovation. I think we take things, we
improve upon them, we do that with everything.
But at what point do you cross a line? You're
talking about— Can I please tell you? No, one
at a time. One at a time. They had Morse code,
right? Yes. They went from Morse code to you
being able to send me a FaceTime video. Understood.
These things happen. This is just part of being
humans. We're not against technology. Okay, I
understand that you're not against technology,
but what I'm saying is if you follow technological
innovation, it becomes... better and better and
more and more invasive. We need to design it
where it doesn't make us obsolete. Humans take
control of their environment. We build our environment.
The globalists have decided to have a post -human
future where humans are no longer relevant. This
is where you lose me. I can show you their damn
quotes. He's getting me. I just gave you an article
where they said it. Because I think he's right.
I think the only reason we're still around is
because they haven't figured out how to get robots
good enough to get rid of all of it. They had
the right robots, there would be no Walmarts
to get rid of everybody. You don't think that?
If they were the right robots, they'd get rid
of everybody. They're making us obsolete. They're
making us obsolete. They're trying to get rid
of the workers. Danger, danger, danger, danger.
If I need a fucking cooler, I like to go to Walmart.
Is that okay? Not, but once you have a robot,
you won't want to go to Walmart. Why? Because
it's dirty. It's filthy. Everyone's got COVID.
I listen to music. That's why they're doing the
COVID. You're not essential under COVID. Listen.
They're not essential. They want to train you.
Okay, listen. Look how calculators were great.
No one knows how to do math now. Look how phones
are great. No one knows their numbers anymore.
All the statistics show that the science and
technology is making us dumb. And that's why
they wrote the big article, the co -owner of
Sun Microsystems, in 2000, Bill Joy wrote, Why
the Future Doesn't Need Us. And he explains he
went to a top billionaire tech conference, and
they made the decision to not let humans sit
around and play video games in the future, that
they were just going to slowly phase us out and
kill everybody. Stop. They're not trying to kill
everybody. Okay, pull up Why the Future Doesn't
Need Us. But listen, why do you think they're
trying to kill everybody? But why wouldn't they?
Can we reverse engineer the question? Because
we're called useless eaters. I don't think they're
trying to kill people. I think they're trying
to improve what a person is. What I think we're
doing. Oh, by chopping our son's balls off? Okay,
you're going to go down another rabbit hole,
you son of a bitch. By increasing our ability
to access information and by becoming a sort
of a symbiotic creature aligned with technology.
And once we're aligned with AI, it can censor
everything we do. You think big tech, the minute
big tech got control, they began censoring. And
it's the groups behind that are very predatory,
Joe. I do agree with you there. There's no firewalls.
Here's the problem. The First Amendment currently
does not apply to big tech. I believe it should.
They're violating cartel laws. They're organized.
I believe that what's happening now with whether
it's Twitter or Facebook or YouTube. These platforms
are so big, I think the argument can be made
that they are utilities and that they should
be regulated like utilities. I agree, Joe. It
should be a human right. I agree. We did not
have access to these things. We did not. Talk
about what we're going to cover pre to this.
We're going to talk about a lot of things. I'm
going to read this. This is what I wrote last
night. You ready? The Silicon Cult. I want some
weed for you. I want you to take it down a notch.
The Silicon Cult. Okay, go ahead. Is this another
article? No, I wrote this. Oh, you wrote it.
These are talking points. The Silicon Cult. Defying
the enemy. The war on carbon. Announce up front
that I am not really a liberal or conservative.
I want a pro -human future. Please listen to
me and hear me out. Let's stop right there. Because
you get called a neoconservative. You get called
alt -right. You get called a far -right person.
When I first met you, you were protesting against
George W. Bush. And you were saying that what
he was doing and what he was trying to usher
in was essentially going to be the downfall of
Western civilization. Even before he was elected.
Yes, I remember that. So when people say Alex
Jones is a far -right guy, I'm like, he's complicated.
He's really against corruption more than he's
against any particular party. You just found
that the right was less apt to censor you and
more apt to listen to your ideas. Exactly. And
I know we're all not stoned today. And so we're
being a little aggressive. But here's the election
night. If I'm gracious enough to be here or you're
gracious enough, I'll be here. We'll get hammered.
But listen. let's get into Bohemian Grove. Let's
get into the technocracy. Let's get into who
runs things. Let's get into the mindset. Whatever
points you want, and I'll try to show up and
go through it. This is Tim Dillon's will. This
is because you're saying they want mortality
on the roads. Look at this thin, young, handsome,
boyish, baby -faced Alex Jones. That's 2004,
but yeah, I mean, I knew you in like 1998. I
met you in 98, but then I got to know you in
99. This was when you were, 98 was when you were
protesting. And this is my clip. You guys are
welcome to play this. It's really good. Yeah.
I'll sign a form. You can use it. What is going
on in this clip? He's interviewing a lizard.
Let's play this. It's been in a lot of different
newspapers. And that's the Bohemian Grove. You
want to start it over. It's David Gergen. Let
me set it up. Let me set it up. Let me set it
up. Okay. Right where he goes. David Gergen.
I'm outside. What's the main thing in New York
where everybody plays? By the way, this is when
Bill Hicks was alive, so I can confirm that you
are not Bill Hicks. Madison Square Garden. Madison
Square Garden. And here comes David Gergen, the
Karl Rove of like four or five administrations.
And I knew that he was part of the actual ritual
at Bohemian Grove, so I bring it up to him and
he blows up at me. Here it is. He's like eight
feet tall. Just a few questions about the convention.
Is there a camera? Yeah, right there. I just
want to get your permission first. We're talking
to David Gergen, and he has advised several presidents
and, of course, has written quite a few books
and is a, I would call you a political pundit
or researcher. Commentary at Over the Hill, whatever.
One last question. I read a Washington Times
article many years ago where you had a comment
about the organization, and then now it's been
in the Wall Street Journal, it's been in a lot
of different newspapers, and that's the Bohemian
Grove. And back in, what was it, 1996, when you
joined as a Clinton advisor, the Republicans
were criticizing you, oh, what about Bohemian
Grove? And then you countered them by saying,
hey, I don't run around in the woods naked. What
did that mean? Here is the before -mentioned
Washington Times article. where he said, I didn't
run around naked like they do. I don't know what
quote you're referring to. I'm not aware of any
quote like that. Listen, I am a happy member
of the Bohemian Grove. I like the folks who come
there, and it's really inappropriate for me to
talk about the group beyond that. Thank you.
Have you been there for the ceremony with the
cremation of care? Frankly, I don't think that's
something I need to talk to you about. Now, what
we're watching for people that are just listening
is a bunch of people wearing robes that are burning
an effigy in front of a giant statue of Moloch
the Owl God. And it's the effigy of a child.
Well, I don't know if that is what it is. It
is. I think it's the effigy of a child. It looks
like a grown woman to me. It's real mad right
here. Yeah. Okay. Watch this. Back it up five
seconds. We missed it. I said you take part in
the ritual. Back it up five seconds. Frankly,
I don't think that's something I need to talk
to you about. Really? That's right. Well, I'm
Alex Jones, and I snuck in there in 2000. I'm
the guy that blew it wide open and got the video.
It's been on national TV. Well, I disrespect
you for that. You do? I do. But there's a lot
of big public officials going in there. Don't
we deserve to know? I don't know anything about
you, and I don't know anything about your film.
But if you go in there with an understanding,
you violated that understanding by releasing
that film, and I don't respect you for that.
Really? I'm sorry. You took an understanding
when you went in there that you would not do
that film. Did you have an understanding when
you went in there? No. Did you crash it? Yes.
Yeah, and it has no trespassing signs there,
too, doesn't it? No, they put them up after.
Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, sir. I've been there
before. I know what the circumstances are, and
I'm sorry you violated the understandings. That
was not a gentlemanly thing to do. But what about
the ritual? Is the ritual gentlemanly? That's
all the people, these fucking heads of state
and billionaires. That's the other thing. They
run the world. I don't owe you this comment.
This is what's called ambush journalism, and
I disrespect you for that as well. So thank you
and goodbye. That's none of your damn business.
Oh. Listen. Oh, he's getting cocky. You go around
and make understandings with people and violate
them. You ambush people on the streets, and that's
an inappropriate form of journalism. If you wish
to practice that, that's fine, but don't ask
others to respect you for it. You can do it.
You're a free American, like anything you want.
If you want to be uncivil and rude and ungentlemanly,
that's up to you. But don't expect the rest of
us to say, oh, well, you're right. You guys are
setting policy in there, Mr. Gergen. I'm sorry.
Nobody sets policy in there. We try to be gentlemen,
and obviously you don't belong there. Weaving
spiders coming out here? Yeah, that is a three
-pointer. Anyways. That's a three -pointer. Listen,
you could ignore that if it was like a bunch
of poor people in the woods doing that. Even
then I'd be worried. Even then it would be weird.
These guys are the top of like every industry
in America. It's at least curious. Who goes in
there? Well, people I like. I mean, Clint Eastwood's
gone. He's not really a member. Look, look. Is
it fun? Look, it's 2 ,700 acres. It was set up
by Mark Twain. And it was a liberal deal for,
like, hookers and gay dudes and just everything
else. Just a big, huge. Would you say gateds?
What? Gay dudes. Oh, gay dudes. No, I'm saying
if you go back to, like, the 1870s when Mark
Twain set up, it was classically liberal. It
was partying. It was their own 27 acres. It was
saloons. They brought in female hookers. There
was gay guys in there, everything. It was just,
it was Bohemian Groves, what they called it.
Because people did whatever they wanted. It was
open. And they had, like, poetry and they had
plays and all the rest of it. By the time Howard
Taft became president, the Republicans basically
bought it. So the reason it's important is the
Republicans go there to, like, they ship in all
these private hookers, all these jets land nearby,
but they also have a lot of gay sex, which they
use then to basically compromise people into
the cult. And so there's a lot of gay sex. How
do you know this? It came out in news articles.
No one ever got footage of it. I was in there
for one day. I snuck in. I looked good back then.
They hit on me a lot. I had people I recognized
from TV walking around, hey, let's go right now.
I mean, it's a big gay hookup deal for Republicans.
I'm just telling you what it is. And then they've
got this ritual that's only the feeder group.
So I'm sitting there during the ritual, and I'm
like, hey, this is pretty cool. And the dude
goes, shut up or I'll kill you. And they're all
taking it very seriously. And I'm not saying
it's a gay thing. I'm saying that some of that
goes on there. So you were saying it was cool
and people were getting angry that you were saying
it was cool? No, I mean, I was just quietly going,
oh, this is really interesting. They're like,
shut up. This is a very important ritual. And
they were taking it very serious. This hearse
comes in with the body of a child. It is an effigy.
They're not killing it. Well, it's just a bundle
of sticks, right? Yeah, well, it looks like a
kid. No, later, others infiltrated later that
worked there and got his photos of it. It's an
image of a kid. It's a little kid. Because Moloch
in biblical is who they sacrifice the Canaanite
kids. It's a bull, but they do it as an owl.
They do it as an owl, yeah. But that's from the
Bible is you would sacrifice a child to Molech.
Give not your children to the fires of Molech.
Right. And so I've given it to experts in religious
history. It's not even from Christian perspective.
It's a Faustian deal mixed with Babylonian and
religious stuff from Tyre. Yeah. It's quirky.
Look at that. Look at that owl god and look at
the fire underneath the owl god. And there's
Ronald Reagan. I mean, if you saw that, if you
were in the woods and you just saw that, you
would be terrified. And Richard Nixon said. Richard
Nixon, on the Richard Nixon tape, says it's a
gay orgy. Richard Nixon said that? You can pull
up. Richard Nixon talks about... Yeah, Richard
Nixon said something about it where he... It's
the most goddamn faggy thing you've ever seen.
I think it's just allowing... Well, nothing against...
That's what it's saying. I think it's guys that
aren't gay that engage in gay acts in the woods,
and then they have something on each other, similar
to Epstein's Island, where it's like, that's
what it is. It's like a fraternity doing that.
You've got to screw it up. Hold on a second.
What is this here? And they don't allow women.
It says founded in 1872 by a group of male...
That's the context that YouTube adds when you
talk about Bohemian Grove. This is the title
of the video. See, I told you, founded in 1872.
Richard Nixon, Bohemian Grove, most faggy goddamn
thing he could ever imagine. Yes, play it. 100
% play it. I want to hear this. It's the Nixon
tapes, yeah. Let me hear this. Northern California.
San Francisco crowd goes in there. It's just
terrible. Okay. It's weird. The owl and the...
It's interesting and it... I don't know how seriously
they take it. I mean, that's a real question,
right? I mean, the whole gay thing is a side
issue. The point is that I've talked to people
that, I mean, according to Ted Gunderson, the
first time I ever heard about this was from this
former high -level FBI agent who was going to
be the FBI director, but he wouldn't go along
with corruption, so he wasn't. It's on record
Gunderson almost became the FBI director. And
he blew up things like the Franklin scandal.
And the Finders Club, which was huge, was where
the CIA was caught trafficking. You know, the
Finders is a cult that was caught trafficking
children. CIA squashed the Florida. And then
Gunderson got it raided in DC and found a whole
CIA facility with the snuff films, everything.
Telex machine. And so he told me about all this
and I thought he was crazy. Yeah. Even though
he was Ted Gunderson. You told us about it and
we actually pulled up one of those stories. And
I was correct. Yes, you're correct. Yes. Yeah.
Thank you. So Ted Gunderson is the reason I know
about this. And he said, he said that. They get
people interested with that ritual. There's like
2 ,000 members. They bring about 1 ,000 guests.
Not everybody can bring a guest. Only the head
of each camp can bring a guest. Most of them
are nice. Clint Eastwood goes there. Danny Glover
goes there. But it's an all -male deal. Who's
the other one? Danny Glover. Oh, Danny Glover?
I just mentioned it. Lethal Weapon Danny Glover?
I saw him there. How the fuck is he in there?
They probably like him from the movie. He's just
a fun guy. He's a great guy. I saw him when I
was there. I saw Danny Glover. Interesting. I'm
starting to believe this is not, I'm starting
to believe we can get in, I'm starting to believe
it's not that exclusive. Oh, Joe Rogan, they'd
have him in immediately. Not now. Do a podcast
in front of the owl. But I just want to say that
overall, it started out as a truly artsy, liberal
thing that I think is good. I think guys deserve
to go off the woods, like we've done since humans
were humans, and party and do whatever. The thing
is, then the weird skull—here's what happened.
About 1900, Skull and Bones, that was at Yale
in New Haven, Connecticut, that was a German
death cult, it took over Bohemian Grove, and
that's when they set up that as the central deal.
So it's this big, inviting, fun party. What happens
at Skull and Bones? Because that's one of the
other rumors about Skull and Bones. I can tell
you, I know. They compromise you. I know. They
compromised you so that you were always a part
of this organization. Well, before he died, I
did multiple interviews with Anthony Sutton,
the top congressional advisor to Senator Frank
Church. And we only know about Sutton because
Charlotte Iserby, whose father was high -level
Skull and Bones, gave him all of their internal
manuals. And she's been a frequent guest. She's
retired now. America's secret establishment,
an introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones.
Yes. Okay. And so this is a Russell Trust, true
Illuminati. Illuminati set up 1776 to counter
our revolution by Adam Weishaupt. It funds the
Jacobins. It funds the French Revolution. It's
the opposite of a true egalitarian, open liberal
revolution. It's the leftist. Always say they're
the liberal. Liberal and leftist are two different
deals. Leftist is left -hand path Satanism. Liberalism
is egalitarian, open society. True liberalism.
And so the left -hand path set this up. And then
they wanted, they sent all this opium money they
had over in 1830. to Yale to set up a German
secret society of the Illuminati, which then
has become one of the dominant secret societies.
And in there, they do actual satanic rituals.
They get in coffins. They do simulated human
sacrifices. They have gay sex as part of the
ritual. They bathe in huge facilities of feces.
This was made by Robert De Niro made a movie.
Skull and Bones are doing that stuff now. absolutely
i know somebody broke into it but wow who's the
how can this be proven well matt damon made a
movie called the good shepherd i think yes and
and in that it's robert de niro directed it And
that's super accurate, where it's got the sword
and the devil, and they're in these big vats
of cow manure. They did leak a Facebook photo
album of a bunch of Skull and Bones kids hanging
on a deer island. It kind of looked like losers.
I know they're not, but they kind of look like
losers. I mean, it was kind of embarrassing.
A lot of billionaires look like losers. Yeah,
they look like emaciates. You were like, these
are the Illuminati? No, I totally agree with
you. Remember ABC News, because they wanted to
get Bush in trouble right before the 2004 election?
another frat was able to because they're all
doing this crap right shoot video down into it
where they're going devil equals death satan
and they had girls they finally brought into
the membership it was all boys before yeah sacrificing
so of course it's idiotic it's training wheels
for what they do but inside they go grave rob
they've got geronimo skull yeah the george hw
bush stole supposedly stole geronimo skull yeah
you got to do things like i don't know if that
but that's that's a legend rumor thing yeah it's
what Probably true. It's been broken into. Yeah.
One time the police went in there. But the point
is, is that Skull and Bones, Order 322, is the
Illuminati Germanic death cult that now set up
chapters all over the U .S. And it took over
Bohemian Grove around 1900. And so that's why
Bohemian Grove is still this artisan, you know,
deal of elitist artist. But then it got co -opted
by the Republican Party and Skull and Bones.
And Helmut Schmidt, German chancellor, wrote
Men in Power as a political retrospective. when
he retired in the late 80s saying i love our
illuminati rituals that we have in germany in
our own sacred groves but i think they've taken
to a new level with skull and bones at bohemian
grove and i really enjoy the time we have there
so these are just these elite institutions where
and scumbles i think they seek to like create
Close friends amongst people that may not know
each other create loyalty amongst this group
of people. That's why they got to tell them all
the things they've done. Yeah, you got to tell
them all the sexual history, all that stuff.
They want these people to be loyal to each other
so when they... They're not loyal to the laws
of America. They're loyal to this oath that they
take with each other. And exactly. And it's like
a team America. Look at this. Descendants sue
skull and bones over Geronimo's bones. Documents
show George W. Bush's grandfather robbed Geronimo's
grave members. Members of the secret society
allegedly steal valuable things and put them
in tomb. Great grandson says Geronimo should
be buried in accordance with the tradition. Federal
law protects native. Americans' rights to their
family members' remains. And let's expand on
that. What he just said, because this guy's done
his studying. Thank you. It's like in Team America
when the head guy goes... The only person who's
ever said I've studied. No, no, no. Nobody says.
He goes, suck my cock, Gary. It's not about sex.
In Skull and Bones and Bohemian Grove, what he
said is most of these guys are not gay. It's
an act of dominance. Like, oh, you're a senator?
You want to be president? Bend over. And like
a former president screws you in the ass. And
that's what they do. I mean, the ritual is...
I'm in charge. Bend over. Well, isn't that a
thing with fraternities anyway? Like hazing?
Yeah. The jizz on a cracker. Exactly. So it's
the next deal. Yeah, but most people in fraternity,
I mean, these are the top kids. These are kids
that they think are going to occupy leadership
positions in the world. And often do. And often
do. Let me give you an example. Even John Ronson
saw the photo of me when we snuck into Bohemian
Grove. Yeah. And they had it hanging. And people
said, why don't you get a video? I have a camera
hidden right here. It's Henry Kissinger. bent
over in a woman's dress, sticking his fingers
in his ass. Bill Clinton in a blue dress in Jeffrey
Epstein's house. Yeah, but that's just an artist's
rendition. Do you know that that was just an
artist made that? Maybe this was an artist's
rendition. We're in a clubhouse. Yeah. Ronson
wrote about this. Oh, so it's a photo or a painting?
It looked like a photo, but let's just say it's
a painting. I don't know. I mean, it's ancient
memory 20 years ago. Okay. But I mean, Ronson's
like, look at that. I'm like, is that Kissinger?
Yeah, and it's Kissinger. It's all about being
improper. Right. And they all go get caught to
compromise each other to be in the club. It's
a hazing thing. So that they can trust each other
because they're all doing shady shit. Yes. Even
if it's an artist rendition, why is Jeffrey Epstein
having in his townhouse a picture of the president
in a blue dress? Well, because the president
flew in his fucking plane 26 times. That's what
I mean. And by the way, Israel Maxwell has now
come out in court. It's getting no attention,
confirming, okay, Clinton did fly to that island.
That broke four days ago. It's gotten zero attention.
Yeah, no, they're not paying attention. We haven't
heard anything other than those court documents
that just came out. Listen, I told you, listen,
guys, it's not like I'm even that special. My
mom's brother was a famous helicopter pilot in
Vietnam running black ops into Laos and Cambodia
and stuff. And then he, I shouldn't tell these
stories, but no one's ever heard this stuff.
But, you know, I remember growing up him telling
me this stuff and it was true. Like they were,
I'm not going to do it. Please, please. What's
the problem? I just can't do it. What's the danger?
You said so much. Well, I mean, let's just say
he took the fall for something that was going
on. He didn't get in trouble for it. He got promoted.
And he was involved in Iran -Contra. And that's
how people get promoted. They fail upward by
taking a lot of times the blame for something.
Or this is, that's like common. So I grew up.
I mean, I grew up, not just him, but other family,
you know, that was, it was like something special
that, you know, but those Navy SEAL guys, you
got a security done a bunch of crazy stuff. That's
what our military does. It's not what you hear
on the news. Right. And, and, and it's just completely
out of control stuff. Right. And I mean, my uncle
told me, he said, he said, yeah, I know I got
out of working for these groups and everything.
as an army officer that was sheep dipped. He
wasn't wearing an army uniform. We were talking
high level. We were talking running the real
stuff. Special ops. He was in charge. He had
the command base in Guatemala City because he
was a top Morse code guy. Of course, they had
satellites there, but nobody could read this
Morse code coded. So he was sending stuff to
the White House Morse code. When he was a kid,
he was a champion Morse coder. So he wasn't just
in command. He was running all the stuff. And
he just said, I had to do it because he said
it was kids being smuggled out of orphanages.
cia for sex ops in dc jesus christ he told me
that he told me that when he was dying of pneumonia
jesus fuck yeah now what is it with kids why
is the way to compromise people it's the it's
the energy too yeah i mean if somebody will hurt
kids and he would if somebody will hurt kids
what else they'll do anything but that's what
everyone's so terrified of today right that there
are some sex trafficking and sex cult involving
high -level people. And they are, though, but
that's a fact. The QAnon shit gets wild, and
it's sloppy and messy, and you've talked about
that, too. It gets sloppy and messy, and they're
not right about everything. But the idea, there
are human trafficking. The QAnon is just people
on the internet LARPing, acting like they're
taking credit for something. And a lot of them
are good people. It's just that you can give
them bonafide, like, look, they just busted a
giant child trafficking ring, Associated Press.
They don't want that. They want, no, there's
underground bases and there's dinosaurs and there's
aliens. They only want the real shit. They don't
want the real thing. So is it that they're just
into things that are just huge, more ridiculous
than reality? Yeah, because it's escapism, and
Hillary's in prison secretly. Oh, right. I think
they just learned about the world over the last
year, and it melted their mind. Like, you've
been looking at this stuff forever. When you
were on with Joe a few months ago, you crystallized
it perfectly. They've been asleep, now they've
woken up, and now they think everything's a cartoon
version. Well, say it like you said. Yeah, well,
it was just like, again, it's like if you didn't
know anything about the Franklin scandal, you
didn't know about Epstein, or you hadn't. read
these books you didn't know the stories your
uncle told you and then eventually you just found
out there was an island where all these politicians
were going to and having sex with kids and they
were getting compromised Your mind would melt
and then you would get paranoid and then you
would start thinking that everybody's a pedophile
and that there's tunnels underground when the
reality is it is bad. But sometimes you have
to take a step back and take a breath and realize
that like there are good people and not everybody
is evil. But there is a lot of evil out there.
But you've got to take a step back and try to
realize like what is what? Well, there's one
picture of Clinton getting massaged by this woman
and they were using it as sort of evidence. But
the woman's clearly a woman. She's in her 20s.
Yeah, but she'd been working for him since she
was like 15. Let's never use Clinton as the example
of the QAnon people being wrong. That's not even
what I'm saying. There it is. That's a grown
woman. She's a grown up. Listen, let's be clear.
The media did a limited hangout. They went with
these whistleblowers. Instead of all the other
people, and the fact that the witnesses reported
at Epstein Island in the Caribbean, Little St.
George, and the other island too, that boats
would pull up in the middle of the night to these
shacks with little brown kids. And those are
the ones that get disappeared. But who reported
this? It's in major documentaries. It's in Netflix
documentaries. It's in all the witnesses we talked
to. And they said, my witnesses, my people I
talked to over 10 years ago said, remember me
telling you about it, they've got an island in
the Caribbean. They've got an island in the Mediterranean.
They've got ranches in the Southwest. Well, he
had a ranch in New Mexico. That came out later.
I wasn't told exactly where. I mean, the idea
that these kids would disappear potentially isn't
crazy. No, it's not crazy at all. It's not crazy
at all. Here's an example. I was told by a...
High -level source that major Hollywood producers
by name ran a cult where they branded women next
to their vagina. The Nixxiom thing. But I put
it out two years before it broke because I was
told this by a high -level source. I remember
you talking to me about it. And then they even
had articles going in Huffington Post. Jones
claims Harvey Weinstein's connected to groups
that do all this. I was just going off what people
told me, and I said, I didn't even say Weinstein.
That's what's crazy is they were already trying
to cover it in case I said that. They're like,
oh, Weinstein's not involved in branding women.
Well, it never even came out he was. It was the
other guy. But what you said did turn out to
be true. Yeah. As fantastic as it sounded, as
outrageous, as ridiculous, it turned out to be
true, and now it's in the news. First time I
ever heard of Ted Gunnarsson. Let me pull him
up. Ted Gunnarsson. It's on Wikipedia, up to
be FBI director. He was the head of L .A. Imagine
what he learned there. And he used to tell me,
he goes, man, I've been in the FBI 20 years.
I got to be the head of L .A. He goes, like,
there's devil worshiping everywhere. Blew me
away. Pedophilia, you name it. He knew about
the Manson thing really being a satanic ritual.
And there's a senator from Nebraska named John
DeCamp. Who he was friends with. Who he was friends
with. And John DeCamp was a guy who, he blew
the whole thing wide open. He was CIA. He blew
the whole thing wide open. Was DeCamp CIA, you
think? No, he told me. I was friends with him.
He was one of the good ones. He was involved
in Operation Phoenix. And then they kill – well,
that was – That was his mentor. So DeCamp's mentor
was a guy who was a high -level CIA guy. Jamie
can pull that up. He was in a Phoenix operation,
and he was killed. In the canoe. In the canoe.
And the dinner was still on the table. He was
killed in a canoe? Yeah, this was a high -level
CIA guy. John DeCamp was a Nebraska senator who
broke open this human trafficking operation.
By the way, I'm having— Hold on, hold on. It
was a pedophile cult that was trafficking kids
across America, and it was centered out of the—
Omaha Federal Credit Union. He was being run
by a guy named Larry King, who was this rising
star in the Republican Party. He's probably still
alive. He has pictures of Maureen Reagan, all
that stuff. These kids were being trafficked
to D .C., to L .A., to New York, wherever. DeCamp
stumbled upon this, stumbled upon the occult,
weird ritual shit going on, too, in addition
to the pedophilia and all that. And then he went
to this guy, his mentor, who we knew from Vietnam,
from the military, who was a CIA guy whose name
is escaping me. William Colby. William Colby.
He went to William Colby, and William Colby basically
said to the camp, listen, you're going up against
forces that are way too powerful. You don't even
know what you're knocking on here. And then William
Colby, I think, changed his mind and said, fuck
it. You know what? We should stop doing, like,
if we're going to fight this, let's fight it.
And then a little while later, William Colby,
who was in great health, great shape, has an
accident in his canoe, is found dead. in a river
right by his house with his dinner still on the
table. So it's like nobody gets up in the middle
of the dinner to go canoeing. So this has been
a common theme forever, whereas if you go against
these people, you find you're dead. He was 76
when he drowned, though. Yeah, but in a canoe
while his dinner was still on the table. Sometimes
people have heart attacks when they're 76. I
understand that. I understand that. We're connecting
dots here that maybe we don't need to disclose.
Okay. William Colby, director of Central Intelligence,
chose to disclose some of the nation's darkest
secrets to save the spy service he loved, drowned
on April 27th in a tributary. I've talked to
folks. They killed him. They killed him. He was
76. How about this guy, Gary Caradori, who was
a private investigator, hired to get to the bottom
of the Franklin scandal. It's like Barry Seale,
man. They're getting rid of the people. They
just get rid of them. All right. So listen, we've
done Bohemian Grove. We've done Bohemian Grove.
Let me tell you. Senator DeCamp was on record
running major -level Operation Phoenix, which
was a high -level CIA torture operation and execution
operation. So Apocalypse Now is kind of based
on some of the things they did. But he's on record
highly decorated at that. I don't want to go
too far away from the Epstein thing because I
still have a whole lot more questions. Let's
go back to Epstein. Okay. The island itself.
Like, first of all, Epstein had this... crazy
place in New York City. Seven -story palace.
That the guy who owned Victoria's Secrets, he
gave it to him? Yeah, because of probably blackmail.
Right. And then there was other billionaires
who it turned out had been glossed over. Including
Bill Gates. Bill Gates stays there. And tried
to deny it, but Bill Gates denies staying with
Epstein, but confirmed he stayed there and in
his Paris home. And this was also, he met with
him post his first arrest, correct? Yes. Because
he was arrested. Yeah, a lot of people did. Chelsea
Handler had dinner with him, I believe, after
the arrest, too. I mean, a lot of people looked
past that, apparently. Yeah, that British royal.
Okay, Bill Gates met with Jeffrey Epstein many
times despite his past. I've got to say, Jamie's
really fast. He's the best. He's the best. Let's
go back to this. Is he marrying Tim Dillon? Epstein
had a huge interest in tech. He loved tech. Yes.
Yes, and he wanted to. He brought scientists
and big tech people over his house in New York
City. Here's the deal. They were doing, I said
this over 10 years ago, that they were involved
in secret breeding programs for cloning. Okay,
before we get to that, scientists, how were they
getting these scientists? Where were they getting
all the money, first of all? Where's he getting
the money to get to Silent? Where's he getting
the money to? buy this giant or get he was we
now know that he was a nexus point from the dirty
sides of the cia mi6 and massad at least yeah
and so they were compromising people and then
as he would compromise people most of them knew
they were being compromised they wanted to be
compromised to be let in to then run operations
and be given even more money. He was also the
money manager for a guy named Les Wexner, who's
a billionaire who owns Victoria's Secret, The
Limited, among other things. And that's the guy
who... He was gifting Epstein a property. He
gave him a $70 million. Well, that's where he
got some of the first money. Well, Eric Weinstein,
who was a legit financial guy, looked at him
and said, this guy doesn't know what the fuck
he's talking about. Of course not. He said he's
playing a role. And then scientists... He met
with him. Scientists were like that, too. When
they went to his house, they go, oh, Epstein
is, like, playing a role. Yes. He has no... You
know, so whatever... he's doing, he's working
for somebody. Well, let me tell you, they want
to corrupt the scientific elite to go along with
their agenda on climate change, to go along with
their agenda on viruses, to go along with their
agenda because they know scientists are respected.
So you want to have them compromise so they go
along with whatever it is you want. So whatever
it is you want. So if you want to do something
and manipulate reality to make your agenda go
through. you compromise the scientists, and then
these elite experts who you have on film having
sex with 16 -year -olds, then you can... Yeah,
so maybe man -made global warming is real and
really bad. It doesn't matter. The solution they
have is a global tax. You pay them, so it's a
scam. But as big as Epstein was, he was small
compared to these other finders groups and other
organizations. They even came out in the news
at the time in the late 80s, early 90s. And then
the communist Chinese, they're running... the
blackmail rings with Hunter Biden and the Democratic
Party and Dianne Feinstein and all these people
at levels way, way, way above anything anybody
else has seen. Jesus Christ. I always got a bad
feeling from Dianne Feinstein. I never had any
feeling. Turned out her main assistant was a
Chinese actual agent. Yeah, I mean, that's...
pal pleads for release says jailed heiress starving
and humiliating clothes and that's unfair for
her and i think i mean this is the latest statement
you should give her a you know oh she i mean
on record this woman was involved in all these
horrible things and now oh my god she said humiliating
clothes why do you think trump when they asked
her about it, well, I wish her well. He's always
smart -ass, because Epstein was killed in prison.
So he's like, I wish her well, because they want
to get data. He's also like a rich guy. He knew
her, right? Well, he later clarified it. I told
you what he said. Do you think Trump's cleaning
everything in this? Oh, you want to get the M
.O. on Trump? Well, I would like to, because
I know that you're... I'll give you. No, no.
Here we go. My only superpower is that I really
try to give you the accurate thing. That doesn't
mean I'm always right, but about 95 % of the
time. That's why earlier on that rabbit troll,
what I'm saying, listen, Trump doesn't like lobbyists.
He fired them all. He's trying to make the best
decisions for everybody in a pragmatic free market
to not have one -sided trade deals. But his blind
side was by him not letting lobbyists in, everyone
around him became unofficial lobbyists. That
became a 20 -minute rabbit hole, which I'm not
bitching about. But let me tell you about Trump.
Trump's dad was a super right -wing pro -America
dude who was actually a huge funder of the John
Birch Society. He introduced him to... the head
of the House Un -American Activities Group that
worked for Nixon and Eisenhower that actually
ran the Red Scare, some of it was good, some
of it was bad, Roy Cohen. And so his personal
lawyer for 25 years was Roy Cohen, who was like
the— Joe McCarthy's best friend, right? Joe McCarthy's
chief of staff. Chief of staff, yeah. I mean,
he ran it. He ran it, yeah. He ran House and
Senate. He was the big enchilada. And so Trump
was actually heavily influenced by his father
that was anti -communist, acted nice and liberal
in New York, but, like, knew all this. John Birch
Society, like, you know, we're talking a whole
nine yards. But wasn't Roy Cohn also involved
in some blackmail stuff? Oh, he was huge. Okay.
Absolutely. And it was the whole gay mafia stuff.
Right, right, right, right. Jesus Christ, you
guys are deep. You're deep in this, Tim. I know
this. Yeah, I know this. Well, it's all facts.
I fell asleep listening to it. Every night, I
would fall asleep. I'd listen to it about a half
hour, and then I would trail off. And I would
fall asleep. And now I can't do that anymore!
Thank you, YouTube. You can, Infowars .com. I
know. We're halfway into this, I should say.
People ask, where? People come up to me and say,
I used to love you. I'm sorry you're off air
now. We have record traffic at Infowars .com
and banned .video. Banned .video. We have videos.
I've had videos this week with 3 million views,
2 million views, a million views. Yeah. My producer
Ben Avery watches Infowars .com like during holidays.
His family would be having Christmas. I'm in
a room watching Infowars. So speaking of censorship,
YouTube and Facebook have now banned all the
QAnon stuff, right? Which is crazy. Well, this
is what's crazy. What's next? You're going to
ban JFK conspiracy theories? Well, if I make
a joke about QAnon, am I going to get banned?
That's the other problem for comedians. But it's
like you said, the Young Turks show. Let's just
first talk about the Young Turks. What is the
show? The Jacobins. Because Tim Dillon had put
the show... I'm going to send it to you, Jamie,
so you can see what it is. I'm going to send
you the video that Tim Dillon... Tim Pool. I'm
going to send it to you right now, Jamie. So
let me explain this. The Young Turds are anti
-free speech for everybody, including me. And
then she goes, but I'm not anti -free speech.
I just want Alex Jones banned. But then they
have this new show called The Jacobins. Well,
let's talk about evil. The Young Turks were the
group that ran the Armenian genocide. They ran
the Armenian genocide on record, killed over
a million and a half Christians. They named themselves
the Young Turks. They go, oh, we don't know what
that means. Now they're called the Jacobins.
The Jacobins ran the French Revolution and were
the Illuminati. I told you about them earlier.
So it's like every name they've got is like the
Hitler Youth, basically. I mean, you know, the
Young Turks. Very unfortunate name. Well, they
also, people run around with, you know, the people
that watch a lot of those shows walk around with
either the Che Guevara shirts or they're unironically
calling themselves Maoists. These are like suburban
white kids walking around going, I'm a Maoist.
With $800 smartphones. Right. Yeah. That is a
problem too. It's absurd. I think they're trying
to do good and I think they think they are doing
good. I really do. I think when they thought
that, hey, I'm not anti -free speech, but ban
Alex Jones. Right. They just don't understand.
what that means. There's a reason why you can't
just go around censoring people. And again, the
answer to bad speech is better speech. That has
always been the answer. But here's the big problem.
Once they silence you, they can then make up
whatever they want. Because people all the time
go... But here's what's worse, Alex, and this
is you personally, but the problem is when they
silence someone, when they censor someone, and
then that person's not the target anymore, they
look for another target and they invariably go
left. They invariably. Exactly. They get on a
power trip. But hold on a second. Left is not
left enough. So if you're a centrist, they'll
call you alt -right. Because you need to be...
compliant completely with the ideology if you're
not compliant they they will they keep moving
what's acceptable and what constitutes racism
sexism classism homophobia transphobia it's a
power grab but they keep changing it and they
move the line orwell talked about this in 1984
yeah he was like if you ban all the words if
all you you will you will literally you will
you will change thoughts Because you can't have
all the, I forget Orwell's words on hate speech.
Reducing language. He said they want to reduce
the language where no one's even able to communicate,
and that's the goal. So we think of it as a leftist
thing that's out of control. No, this is a science.
I paraphrased it, and I fucked it up. But the
point is, what they didn't see, they didn't use
hindsight. It's called Ingsoc. It's so hard to
talk with you. What they didn't do is they didn't
look to where this goes. I do. They didn't look
to where this goes. They didn't understand. They
didn't extrapolate. They didn't say. Or maybe
some of them did and some of them wanted to go
where it's going. If you start censoring, there's
a real problem. And I know people are saying,
no, you should censor people that say terrible
things because they influence our children. You
can't. But Joe, it's a power grab. They get off.
Once they've got one scalp, they're going to
scalp everybody, including themselves. I understand
that's the motivation of the people that are
doing it. That's not what I'm concerned with.
What I'm concerned with is the problem itself.
Because you... keep finding a new target. You
keep finding a new person who's doing something
that's incorrect. That's what I'm saying. They
don't want to give up. They want more, more,
more. But it's not that they're trying to grab
power. It's just you're always trying. Look,
you've started a game. You started a game. They're
losers and want to control reality because they're
projecting their own hatred of themselves on
us. You don't think part of it is that they want
power to control the discussion? There's most
certainly a part of that. That's human nature.
But Joe, you just said I'm hard to deal with.
Well, because you... talk over people when they're
talking you don't let them get the full you've
been talking a lot you get you don't let people
get a full thought out And Tim does it like when
he's having his thoughts. How the censors are
good? What I was saying is he's talking and you
jump in. And the problem is I know you have some
things to say, but then you fuck with the thing
that's coming out of the other person's mouth.
Okay, explain to me how the censors are loving
people. That's what you're trying to do. I'm
not saying they love people. I'm saying they're
not looking at it correctly. Because the way
they're looking at it, they think they're doing
a good thing and they're going to usher forth
some utopian world of communication where people
are only saying the things they agree with. The
problem with that is you don't find out who's
right unless you get everybody talking. I agree.
But Joe, it's worse than that. You can't have
an echo chamber. It's dangerous. Echo chambers
are dangerous. And what tech has done is created
these left -wing ideological echo chambers. I
totally agree. And they're also forcing people
into self -censorship because if you don't comply
with the rules that they've set forth, then you
get banned so you comply. It's a cult. It is
a cult. Ideologically. How can I talk like this?
Listen, it is a cult. Joe. I think there's a
lot of these cults. Joe, what I'm trying to say
to you is you've never been not smoking weed
with me on air. I know. It's a bummer. We should
have had you come in a week. You're angry. You're
upset. I'll be here during the election. I wanted
you to be on before the election. Who do you
think is going to win, by the way? Donald Trump
is going to win. You think so? But then the Democrats
are going to contest it. We're going to have
the 79 days of hell. Why are all the polls showing
that Joe Biden is in the lead? Do you think it's
all bullshit? Just like last time they said Hillary
was going to win. Yeah, but these are the post
-election polls. Joe, what I want to do is talk
to you right now. Why are you talking like that?
He's a conspiracy phone sex operator. I don't
want to talk about what a sexy man you are right
now. He's the only one here drunk. This is a
real problem. I am channeling Tim Dillon. That's
not how Tim Dillon talks. Tim Dillon's looking
at you right now. Do you really think that Trump
is going to win? Because it's close. No, he's
going to win big. Interesting. Really? But they're
going to think that. I was not trying to interrupt
you earlier. Well, this is how you talk. It's
okay. This is how you talk. It's got passion.
Joe, you've talked twice as much in our last
four -hour podcast. I love it. This is the sober
Joe Rogan. Let's get back to this. Trump. What
were we arguing about about political correctness?
I don't know, but you were saying that we weren't
arguing. He was saying that the censors. I was
agreeing with you. The censors, some of the censors
are trying to do the right things. And that you
were saying, listen, it's deeper than that. And
then that's where we left off. It's all been
scientifically set up where they always say,
oh, we're for outliers now and dog whistles.
It's all about normalizing centralized control.
Big tech knows it's psychological algorithms.
It's totally destructive. China that has people
in Muslims in death camps, Christians in death
camps, Buddhists in death camps is trying to
totally normalize. censorship here domestically
when the whole left is involved with communist
china through big tech it doesn't say a word
about them they have no moral high ground to
stand on joe well we have a real problem in this
society when when it comes to tech first of all
because all the people that are on the moral
high ground who are buying iphones you know where
those things are being made Like we all know.
Everybody knows. And I admit it. I admit it.
I admit it as well. There's no iPhones that are
being made in Ohio with highly skilled workers
that are paid an excellent wage and they have
great health care benefits. That's not what's
happening. I don't know why, but that's not what's
happening. They've decided that it's better to
make them cheaper or better to have a higher
profit margin and make them in other countries.
Or at least they decided that initially and now
they're stuck. Let me ask you this. Who do you
think is going to win? I will be very subdued
now since I'm back. Joe Jorgensen. Yeah, I think
Joe Jorgensen has a great shot. She's a shoo
-in. And then Kanye West. I think Joe Jorgensen,
Kanye West. I think it's a nail -biter. It's
neck and neck. You know what drives me crazy?
I think it's neck and neck, right? Jennifer Aniston,
she made a tweet that said... What drives me
crazy is you're hating me right now because you're
not drinking. Hold on a second. There was a fucking
hilarious... by Kanye West. She said, Jennifer
Aniston put on Twitter, hey, it's not funny to
vote in for Kanye. Don't do it. And he goes,
Friends wasn't funny either. Hilarious. He's
right. He's right. That's great. Friends was
not funny. But you see, the two of them together,
Friends was a funny show. Joe, you were great
on Friends. I wasn't on Friends. That's a joke.
Who do you think? You think Trump? I don't know.
If you were a Friends character, who would you
be? I'd probably be Matt LeBlanc, right? Then
you'd be Jennifer Aniston. I don't think so.
Who's Matt LeBlanc? His name is Joey. Jennifer's
the most successful. I identify as Jennifer Aniston.
He was dumb. I'm dumb. Perfect. Wouldn't you
like to have a dentist like Jennifer Aniston
in Horrible Bosses? She was a dentist? What did
she do? Molest her patients while they were under?
Okay. Well, you could be molested by worse people.
Well, they're not kids. But I just think it's
funny that someone who's an actor would say that.
This thing that they feel like they have this
influence, they're going to change the way people
vote. This 80 days of hell you speak of, what
does that entail? Just so I can mentally prepare
myself. 79 days of hell. 79 days of hell. 79
days without Joe Rogan. What's going to happen?
79 days of us locked up in here with cases of
whiskey and huge piles of marijuana. He's lit.
No, no, no. You're a little lit, buddy. I don't
actually. I could see that bottle, and it was
a fresh bottle when you sat down. No, that's
fake. That's Hollywood. That's not Hollywood.
We're in Texas. I gave up Hollywood years ago.
I haven't worked in Hollywood in a long time.
Let's talk about this. What were you just asking?
I don't know. 79 days of hell. If the Democrats
could test the election. See, this is not fair.
79 days of hell. That's how many days there are.
after November 3rd to the inauguration. And John
Podesta in the New York Times, they had a big
war game where the New York Times sat in on a
Democrat high -level war game with Hillary Clinton
and Joe Biden and all of them. And they said,
we're going to contest. We think we're going
to win. But if we lose, we're still going to
contest. And we're going to contest, and we're
going to call for the UN to come in and occupy
the U .S. The UN is going to occupy the U .S.?
And then the New York Times came out and said,
we need the UN. to intervene in the u .s election
and now the four horsemen uh just called for
that yesterday jesus and so they are planning
to have who's the four horsemen aoc and the rest
of the crew oh jesus christ and so those i thought
that's the tribe anyways and so they're and they're
planning to have western states western states
secede And they're saying they're going to hold
the election up. You already saw this. They already
denied the last election. Well, they can take
Portland. Yeah, take it all. Take a lot of the
West. This is the 79 days of hell. Let me ask
you this. Who cares? When did you decide to try
to escape California? Well, I told you, the looting.
When the looting hit, I had zero faith in their
ability to maintain law and order. If you're
going to pay all that money in taxes, I feel
like you should at least feel like they're protecting
things. And when they were just letting them
smash windows and cops were told to stand down,
particularly in Santa Monica, there was direct
orders and the sheriff was being widely criticized
for this. They were told to stand down while
these people were smashing and looting things.
When they were doing that, I was like, well...
You can't live in a place where that's being
tolerated. Because this goes from stores to,
you know, they'll move to nightclubs, they'll
move to restaurants, they'll decide what they're
going to smash. It had nothing to do with George
Floyd. No. It had nothing to do with him. I agree.
Those restaurants, those stores had nothing to
do with George Floyd. And now, like in Minnesota,
Minneapolis, the crime rate's like tripled. The
police won't even show up. They're like, people
are like, why are you even paying you? Yeah.
So what do you think, both of you? Mr. Dillon,
what is the end game of this? I'm going to finish
my answer because I'm not done yet. It was also
that there was restrictions that were put in
place that didn't make any sense to me. There's
restrictions for restaurants, restrictions for
comedy clubs, restrictions for gyms. Like, why
can't you just wear a mask? Why are churches
closed, but Walmart's open? Well, why are churches
closed, but why is it okay to protest? It's not
awful. Okay. Why is everybody letting people
protest? Right. Why aren't they saying, listen,
I understand your want and desire to protest,
but understand that you're most likely contributing
to the spread of this virus? Because that's a
fact. Right. Even if you support the protests.
I agree. Yeah, the end game seems to be if you
let society get bad enough, people will then
accept all these more draconian security measures
and censorship across the board. Do you think
that's what's going on with California? Like,
why do you think they've kept California locked
down this much? They want to kill the U .S. economy.
China's been open for six months. They admit
it's leaked out that they're doing this to kill
the U .S. economy. It's leaked out how? Oh, it's
come out Democratic Party reports. It's been
stated. You heard Democrats all over the news
say we want a depression to make Trump look bad.
Who said this? Bill Maher. Yeah, but Bill Maher
is not a part of the Democratic Party. He's a
comic. I know, but I used a public. Bill Maher,
but he jokes around about that. Like, look, if
we can crash the economy. Okay, well, regardless,
when Jews try to, or Baptists in New York try
to have an event, the police show up and arrest
them. But then when Antifa or BLM was around,
burned stuff down, the mayor said it's great.
And the mayor said, de Blasio said, this is legitimate.
Antifa's legitimate. Your church isn't. Your
synagogue isn't. So it's power. It's selective
enforcement. It's martial law. I have articles
right here because everything I brought today,
I have the proof. ABC News is reporting in blue
cities in Texas that they're going to come to
your house and demand a COVID test. And if you
don't, they're going to arrest you. Well, the
federal and state courts have ruled they can't
do that. Where's that being said? El Paso, Texas,
and other areas. But I want to bring you back
to what you're saying about crash the economy.
You use Bill Maher as an example, and I just
don't think that's a credible example because
he's a comic. Well, he said that. Yeah, but he's
a comic, and he's not a politician. Comics have
bigger coverage than news people now. That's
what Colbert and all them Poe's is news people.
Alex, you're... You can't use him as an example
of someone who is a politician who is calling
for the economy to crash. Strategically, if I
was a Democrat, I wouldn't want things to open
up again until Trump was out. Agreed. I mean,
that's strategic. China wants us shut down. China
admits they're using the virus to keep us shut
down. Do you think he's a bioweapon? I could
give you an hour -long treatise on COVID -19.
We'll get to that momentarily. I don't want to
anger you, though. No, I love being here. I'll
sit here and tell fart jokes if you want. I'd
rather get drunk and just have a good time. Before
we get to that, you said something that I want
you to back up. You said that the Democrats are
trying. I'm not denying the possibility that
this is the case. But this seems like, if that
was the case, it would be a grand conspiracy
that would at least have, you'd have to have
some evidence of this to make that statement,
that they're trying or they want to crash the
economy because they want to maintain power and
to change censorship and to change the way the
laws of people are. Okay, we've had Governor
Newsom, we've had Governor Whitmer, Cuomo, exactly,
all say. The economy isn't going to be open because
Trump's done a bad job. We're not going to open
until he's gone. And then Whitmer's even come
out. Wait a minute. Newsom has openly said that.
You sure? Yeah, type it in. But what do you think
he said? Listen, I'm a critic of Newsom because
he's become an autocrat. He keeps his wineries
open. But there's a lot of issues, right? There's
a lot of issues. They close so many things down.
Joe, Joe, Joe. Globalism was about selling America
off and bankrupting us under Cloward and Piven
strategies. That's fine, but don't change the
subject. I'm not. Specifically what Newsom has
said. You can pull it up, just like I told you
about the AT &T deal. But what did he say that
you think... And again, I'm not a fan of him.
I'm a critic. Listen, I think you've got to give
people, grown adults, the choice. If they...
Look... We don't have overrun hospitals. We don't
have people dying in record numbers. We don't
have 5 % death rates. We don't have 1%. They
keep saying the cases and the deaths are increasing.
That is true. But as long as there's a disease,
they're going to increase. The question is, at
what rate? And the people that are dying, how
many of them have comorbidity factors? It's never
about the death rate. It's always about increased
infection because the death rate's way down.
The death rate is way down. As soon as the winter
hits, they're going to say it's flu. And it's
the colds that are going to count as that. Alex,
you get me again. When you say the deaths increase,
that is going to happen. The question is, by
what rate and how many? Right? You take the normal
flu and pneumonia and morbidity, like they did
this year, and you add that to the number. They've
already run the same scam. And so whatever, they
don't count flu as a death or pneumonia anymore.
They all count it COVID because they get money
on the chart. They get $50 ,000 plus when they
call it a COVID death, plus when they say that.
They get $13 ,000 to say it's a COVID patient,
and they get $29 ,000 or whatever extra when
they intubate somebody. And so now since when
is like Congress saying how to do medicine? Well,
isn't the idea that they're doing this to give
money to these hospitals to help them in the
middle of a pandemic? Yeah. But then the hospitals
code everything as COVID to get the money. That's
come out. They killed most people that died,
died in nursing homes or died from intubation
when it's an autoimmune event and you don't want.
It's intubation that's killing people. But they
initially thought you did. But that's why. Because
it was respiratory disease. And thank God the
numbers went down because they stopped intubating.
Yes. So now it's all about everyone's being.
Before there's this high death rate. Because
they were intubating and they were killing old
people. As soon as they stopped shipping folks
to old homes that weren't getting vitamin D because
there's no sun, it went like this. So infections
like this, you can pull up the graphs, you're
like, what's your science? Pull it up. Infections
like this, deaths like this. Right, where you're
going up and down, right? Deaths down. Now, what
did Gavin Newsom say, though, when you said that
he said it's not going to get better until Trump's
out of office? Well, it's Whitmer that said that
specifically. And he said Cuomo, because I remember
that too. But he was just basically like, well,
I want to be friends with Trump. There's been
a bad response. We've got to keep the lockdown
going. And, you know, until Trump does this wrong,
until we have a change, it's going to continue
on. And then it's always about the power grab.
Like, oh, it's two years we have to do it. Now
it's, first it's 15 days to keep the hospitals
empty. And then it's... then it's oh six months
and now it's two years and the gate said like
a week ago it's 10 years and now they've got
the the people Fauci and others saying no it
never ends you never shake hands and under the
UN rules they say don't look at someone and turn
your head so in Europe you can type this in Citizens
in the UK told, do not look at other people and
turn your head. It's cult programming, man. I
think it's a pretty common talking point. And
some people agree with it. Like a lot of Democrats
would say, yeah, it's not going to get better
until Trump is out because Trump has made a mess
of it. I don't think Trump's done the best job.
That's what he said. But that's a common talking
point. What could he have done better? He's done
better. He shut down flights from China in February
when Pelosi's running around in Chinatown saying,
damn. I think it's a pretty common belief that
they're saying, listen, I don't think it's a
conspiracy. I don't think you have to find a
source. I think it's like they believe that it
won't get better until he's gone. So I don't
think they actively are trying to make it better
until he's gone. Do you see what I mean? I do
see what you're saying. I just want to know if
there's evidence. I want to know if there's an
actual statement where he said... When Trump
leaves, then we'll open back up. That's actually
what Whitmer said specifically, but he said similar
things. I'm going from memory here. I understand,
but that's why I'm challenging you on this. I'm
challenging you on this because people online
are going to want to challenge you on this. That's
what they loved about our last interview over
a year and a half ago, which they loved, was
that people could go and actually check the stuff
I was saying no matter how crazy they thought.
A lot of it is true, so I want to find that quote.
Vote now. See if Whitmer said that it won't get
better until Trump's out of office in terms of
the lockdown. Yeah, Whitmer. Whitmer, lockdown
won't end until Trump's out. Didn't she lose
some court case recently? Yes. Her Supreme Court,
but also federal courts have ruled across the
country that you can't order churches to wear
masks. You can't order social distancing. It's
all just getting us to comply. Don't you think
it's a good idea to encourage people to wear
masks if they're going into large gatherings?
A lot of studies show that doesn't even protect
you. Listen, Trump told the truth a few days
ago when he came out and he said, we're never
going to control this. We have to learn herd
immunity or if you're really scared of it, take
a vaccine. And the head epidemiologist of Rockefeller
Hospital came out and said that and got banned
on YouTube. I mean, listen, Italy did social
distancing. Italy did masks. Italy did everything
you were supposed to do. And they're getting
clobbered again. So that makes me think that.
Maybe it's not a bad idea to do these things,
but they don't seem to prevent a second wave.
Sweden didn't do any of it, and it's the lowest
death rate in Europe. Right, but it's also a
country of small villages. They have a whole
different way of life over there. Well, I mean,
Italy is a bunch of three generations living
in one house. Yeah, that's the problem. And they're
the oldest people in Europe. That's the problem.
So, yeah, they need sunlight. They smoke. They
eat good food. Try finding a gym over there.
Jesus Christ. They smoke on the treadmill. Every
time I fucking go there, it's hard to find a
gym. Listen, exactly. Go to a restaurant. Enjoy
your life. Have a restaurant. Joe, I came out
eight months ago, and I was selling this stuff.
I said, get it at the store. Vitamin D, vitamin
C. Zinc. And zinc. If you have that on the NIH
website, it can't, according to the NIH website,
cannot replicate inside the mitochondria where
the virus plugs into the cell and makes it replicate.
Okay? And so I just, I mean, Jones claims he's
got a cure. No, it's not a cure. If you've got
sunlight and zinc and vitamin C and all these
things you need, it's very hard to get these
things. That's why it's old people in nursing
homes that haven't been outside in years that
are dying so easily. Now Fauci finally two months
ago came out and said, you need vitamin D, you
need vitamin C, you need zinc. Well, that is
true. And young Jamie takes vitamin D and he
kicked it in a day. Yes. And vitamin C and zinc.
Young Jamie was feeling bad for a day. But I
don't want to argue, Joe. I want to just say
I love Bill Gates. Okay. I use Windows. I'm looking
for the quote. I can't find a specific quote
that says that. There's lots of quotes about
them going back and forth, obviously, because
they've had the public battle. I just think anybody
like that, whether it's Bill Gates or Bezos or
anybody who's a billionaire, if they say here's
the suggested course of action, they have to
expect that they're going to be criticized. And
a lot of these guys don't like taking any criticism
when they're issuing edicts. These are billionaires
that are saying this is how. We're going to live.
Yeah, that's the next big question. Isn't it
strange, though, that Bill Gates, who is not
a health expert, is all of a sudden one of the
leading voices? Yes, it's strange. But that's
my next question. Why is Bill Gates, who's not
a doctor, suddenly on TV telling me how my life's
going to go and what I'm going to do? This is
the most important part. Why is this a big project
for him? Well, he's also a guy that wanted to
shoot a missile of dust into the atmosphere to
help climate change. I mean, very few people
in history have had the resources. even think
of doing something like that. That's right. He
wants to have jet spray chemicals to block the
sun. Right. And the scientists went, no good.
They went, not a good idea. So, and then if you
call him on that, if you call him on that, he
goes, the conspirator lies and the conspiracy
theories. It's like, no, we're just asking you
why you want to shoot missiles into space. He
went on CBS News and they go, 80 % of those taking
your vaccine trial are getting very sick. Some
are dying. He's like, well, that's just how it
is. You can pull these clips up. What? He said
that's just how it is? Yeah, he said, well, the
FDA is going to approve it. He's beet red. Look
at you. You're blending in with the walls. But
yeah, it's a problem. That's hilarious. It's
a problem. It's a problem. You know, I'm kind
of retarded. That meme is hilarious. For two
years they said Trump worked for, I've heard
of political mudslinging my whole life. For two
years they said Trump was an agent of Russia.
He was an asset of Russia. The president. Then
they did a whole report and then it came out
that he wasn't. There was no proof of it. The
CIA, the NSA, everybody. And then they went like
this. Well, we might have been wrong about that.
One of the most disturbing things to me was when
Ted Cruz was cross -examining Comey when he was
asking him questions about what the they did
with evidence and how they doctored evidence.
What do you got, Jamie? Oh. I just can't believe
that Brian Redband is here. He saved us. Brian
flew in when Jamie tested positive for cooties.
Have I known him like 16 years? Yeah, forever.
So we had to have the protocol was you have to
be 10 days and you have to test negative three
days in a row. Should Brian move here? Yeah,
Brian's going to move here. He's looking at houses
right now. You are too. Tim's going to move here.
I might. You're moving here, bitch. I might.
Come on, son. I don't know. I got to save LA
first for the sake. Listen, it's not coming back.
I know. Hey, let's talk about that. The club's
not coming back. Please, a little bit of stuff.
I don't want to fight, Joe. We're not fighting.
And I'm not. This much apple juice, I'm having
trouble thinking. It's okay. It's okay. I love
you. No, you did this. Just have some. No, I
can't. I can't. I made a promise. But on election
night, I can pop in. We're going to have one
right here. That's November 3rd. That's November.
But I will be able to pop in. I have six more.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're very excited. Put that
down. I have six more days of sobriety. That's
going to be a fun night. But I've got to be honest.
I'm a little high from this cigar. Hey, you couldn't
have a bigger promo for your election night.
I'm glad you actually announced it here. Well,
Kyle Kalinske's been asking when he can announce
it, so now you know, Kyle. There you go. It's
official. There you go, Kyle. I'm excited to
get everybody in the room and watch the demise
of Western civilization in real time. Can I show
you some stuff? Yeah, what do you got? Do we
ever find a quote for Whitmer? I can't find anything.
There's lots of quotes, but I can't find anything.
Do you want me to find it? Can you? Just Google
it on your phone. Tim and I will talk amongst
ourselves. Okay, go ahead. And then we'll pull
up whatever that is. Okay. Gretchen Whitmer,
they almost kidnapped her, by the way. Here it
is. No, I don't have it. I'm just saying. Oh,
Whitmer, when Trump leaves office, quote. She
was almost out. There was a kidnapping plot against
her. No, it's Whitmer. Which 50 % of the - Lockdowns
won't end until Trump gone. Come on. Right. Lockdowns
won't end until Trump gone. Try that. Whatever.
I know it's true. Try that. Whitmer, lockdowns
won't end until Trump gone. He'll find it. Yeah,
the plot to assassinate her. What the fuck was
that all about? It was a plot to kidnap her.
That was weird. And I predicted up front that
it was going to be FBI provocateurs, and it turned
out the two leaders were FBI informants. What?
What's even crazier is 52 % of the citizens of
Michigan agreed with the plot. That's a joke.
Good one. They're going to edit that part where
you say that's a joke. Joe Rogan's guest calls
for kidnapping. This is outrageous. Deep platform.
This is central control. When I went on Alex's
show, Alex goes, Snopes always goes and finds
jokes he makes, and they go, correction, Hillary
Clinton is not an Oompa Loompa. Did you guys
see that? Brett Weinstein's Unity 2020 account
was also banned from Twitter. My producer just
told me that. His Unity 2020 account, which was
calling for a third party, was calling for unity
between people on the right and the left to get
together and have conversations and perhaps even
have an alternative candidate. That's outrageous.
Well, he's a fucking scholar. And he's a guy
who became famous because he was a professor
at Evergreen University and the leftists took
over the college. When they said we're going
to shut it down and whites can't come one day
a month. And then they banned him. Yes. Well,
they didn't just ban him. They went looking for
him in the parking lot. They chased around with
baseball bats, yeah. It was terrifying shit.
So let me ask this. And then the principal was
going along with everything. Literally, they
yelled at the principal, don't gesture with your
hands because you're threatening us. But he was
talking like this. Put your hands out. They started
laughing at him. British universities like Oxford,
I think is the one. Look it up. Oxford or Cambridge,
one of the big ones. You can't clap. It's a microaggression,
Joe. Oh, that's so crazy. But this is what we
were talking about for years, and people were
saying, why are you concerned with what happens
in the universities? It's the same thing we were
saying about censorship. Because it fucking keeps
going. It doesn't stop. When you allow that kind
of nonsense in universities, those kids graduate,
and they want to carry these goofy fucking practices
into all of these corporations. So let me ask
you about this question. And you're seeing that
now. You're seeing that now. This is one of the
things I wrote down I wanted to ask you, Joe
and Tim Dillon. What happens? Where do they stop?
Because they're going to keep running until they
hit opposition, which is starting to happen.
How far does it go? I was hoping there was going
to be some sort of a federal regulation. I was
hoping that Trump was going to step in and they
were going to amend the First Amendment to include
social media. Because I think what you're seeing
now, the argument that these are just... Just
private corporations. I don't think that argument
is valid anymore because the impact that they
have, the significance of being able to speak
or not being able to speak, has massive implications
on our election. We see this with the New York
Post being censored. Election meddling. We see
it with the New York Post being censored with
this Hunter Biden story. Whether you agree with
the story being leaked or not, the fact that
the New York fucking Post, which is a legitimate
newspaper, as outrageous as they are, and the
fact that the fucking White House press secretary
gets banned from Twitter. For tweeting that link.
That's very dangerous. This is crazy. I mean,
I think it leads to, sadly, it leads to violence.
Because if you take everybody's ability to communicate
away, there's nothing left to do but commit acts
of violence. And by the way, that's a Kennedy
quote. Those that make peaceful revolution. Jamie
found something. This is as close as I could
get to what he's asking for. Okay, the Trump
virus response is the worst in the globe, she
said. If you're tired of lockdowns, or you're
tired of wearing masks, or you wish you were
in church this morning, or watching college football,
or your kids were getting in -person instruction,
it's time for a change in this country, and that's
why we've got to elect Joe Biden. I mean, that's
pretty... That's right, I mean... You can make
that say whatever you want. Yeah, but that's
the common sentiment, right? Right. The problem
is the problem is if you just take it from if
you're tired of lockdowns and then you get one,
you get one interpretation of it. But if you
back it up to the Trump virus response is the
worst in the globe, she said. if you're tired
of lockdowns. So what she's saying is... I think
we're splitting hairs. I mean, you're not necessarily.
Because what she's saying is... Okay, well, I
saw a clip of her in a speech saying that. Because
that's the problem with taking something out
of context. What she's saying is... I mean, listen,
she's a wonderful person. No, I'm not saying
that. What she's saying is that Trump has done
such a shitty job, that's the reason why we're
locked down and you can't go to church. No, I
get it. The headline was... I don't know if that's
true, though. I think when you've got a contagious
disease, you've got people flying in from Europe
and China and all these other countries that
are expressing... You're going to have spread.
This is a fucking insanely contagious disease.
Joe, one of my favorite parts of your show is
when you ask Jamie for something and the light
turns on when you're looking at it. Let me ask
you this. You're into numerology. How hammered
are you right now on scale one to ten? Not at
all. We're into numerology. This is when it gets
good. You better. Okay. Let's talk. Just be nice
to me, Joe. I am being nice to you. You got me
here. I know you are. Let's get serious. Everybody
wants to hear what I actually have to say. Okay.
What was the question? You had me on 9 -11. Yes.
12 -5 -5, now 1 -5 -5 -5. Yeah, don't connect
the dots. I'm in town. It's random. Well, you
told me you picked 9 -11 on purpose. Yeah, that
was on purpose. It was just fun. Nothing bad.
Do you understand how this quote, you could interpret
that in a different way? The entire Democratic
Party strategy is to say Trump is to blame for
COVID and to say the economy shut down until
you get them elected. I don't think that's what
she's saying. They're all saying, Joe Biden's
like, we're going to end this COVID by endless
lockdowns once Trump's out. If you want to go
back to normal, do this. Listen, this is an end
of civilization event. The Rockefellers and others
put out Operation Lockstep. They're never going
to stop this. They're going to have COVID tracking.
They're going to have checkpoints. apps on your
phone how do we stop this what trump came out
and did and said we cannot defeat this with vaccines
and with covid tracking with shutdowns it's going
to have to be with herd immunity, which is what
the scientist actually brought an article saying.
Why can't we beat it with what he beat it with?
He's 74 and he eats french fries every day. This
motherfucker kicked it in four days. That's what
I'm telling you. That's supposed to be a death
sentence for old people. Joe, if you've got vitamin
D, vitamin C, and zinc, it's very hard to...
Okay, but clearly he's got more than vitamin
D, vitamin C, and zinc. He's got a bunch of medical
treatments. He was given Regeneron. He was given
things that are expensive and probably not widely
available. But wait a minute. Jamie tested positive.
He's right over there. Jamie's young and viral.
I'm saying since when does something come along?
Civilization is over. Civilization is over because
of this thing that came out of China. You want
to ask where COVID came from? You want to ask
where it is? Jamie, do you feel better about
the Z's now that you kicked it so quickly? How
old are you? Not at first. How old are you? 37.
At first, I was a little worried for the first
day. I was like, oh, here we go. Are we going
down like a two -week, three -week, four -week?
Then a later time. Months. Right. Because you've
talked to people on the show that have been fucked
up by it. Sure. How lucky am I going to be today
is also what I was thinking. But you were also
taking all the vitamins. I mean, yeah, I got
all that. We had NAD and all that stuff, too,
in my system. So maybe that helped. I'm sure.
Sure did. Of course. Statistically, they said
5 % of us will be dead. It's not even 0 .1%.
This is what they thought. But they're the all
-powerful gods. It's like the UN says, you will
not question us. Big Tech says, you will not
question anything the UN says. Meanwhile, the
UN's like, oh, we shouldn't do a lockdown. It's
killing millions of people's starvation. But
still, it's like, we're keeping the lockdown
going, the United Nations said. Well, what do
you think should be done? I mean, I think we
should look at something that isn't much worse
than the flu and say we all need... natural vitamins
and nutraceuticals and sunlight and health and
people just know they got to deal with the way
it is because we always get diseases we always
get viruses we always live with the idea we got
to lock society down and go into our houses and
this is a post -industrial move that they're
using to roll out these systems to keep us locked
down in our homes. Right, and if you want to
be cynical, this is where you step in and say
the reason why they want us to be upset and they
want the economy to be fucked is because they
hate the president and they want him out of office
and they want to regain power. They want the
Democrats in office. They want to remake the
American economy in the image of what they want.
They want to remake a lot of these systems that
they feel are, for whatever reason, Injust. Injust
or unjust or whatever, and they want to use this
opportunity to kind of redraw the lines. Exactly.
They do that after 9 -11. Exactly. This is the
new 9 -11. The UN and the Davos group all say,
this is the post -industrial world, the great
reset. I've got a copy of it right here. And
they say, in these documents, we are going to
reorganize society. COVID is good to shut down
the carbon. Carbon is bad. We're going to end
success. We're going to end prosperity. We're
going to track everybody. We're going to control
their lives all under the name of COVID. They
said all that? They said we're going to end success.
We're going to end prosperity. Yeah. In the lockstep
Rockefeller document, 2010, they say. We'll have
a viral release or a simulated one that creates
total fear. We'll bring in a police state, martial
law. Is this available for someone to read? Absolutely.
Alex, wasn't there something called Agenda 21
or something where they were saying we want people
living in cities, we don't want home ownership?
Compact cities, yeah. And you were saying it
earlier. They go, oh, it's for the greater good
that we don't have cars anymore. It's for the
greater good we don't have singles. No, that's
not what I was saying. What I was doing was playing
devil's advocate. No, you were quoting them.
What I was saying... I'm not saying you said
that, Joe. You believe in that. I was saying
that autonomous... I do believe in cars, too.
Autonomous vehicles are, in the future, at least,
likely to be safer than people just driving and
texting. Well, it's not safe giving control over
these corporations and robots and making ourselves
obsolete. We need to build a pro -human future.
Well, I'm pro -human. No, I know you are. I'm
not saying you're not, Joe. The Rockefeller thing
from 2010? Sounds a weird segue. I'm pro -human.
I started... I was already looking this up as
you mentioned it because I was going down my
own little rabbit hole. It says when I first
started to find it, my first search just says
there's a small, a large conspiracy has been
built out of this small grain of truth from this
document from 2010. Okay. That's what it starts
to say. Oh, is that Snopes? Small grain of truth.
Yeah. So Snopes is like God. Is it Snopes that
you Googled? Let's focus on the grain of truth.
No, no, no. Who says it's a grain of truth? Hold
on. No, no. It's Operation Lockstep, and it says
a global police state will be brought in from
a pandemic, and there'll be worldwide martial
law. It actually says it in the document. Okay.
It's like they always go like, oh, there's no
Hunter emails. They admit the emails are real.
Right. I love that clock. It is weird that they're
saying TGT Studios. It is weird. There's a document.
Okay. The Rockefeller Foundation Annual Report
2010. I'll control F. What would you like me
to look up? Look up police state. Yeah, just
look up police state. Don't forget the exact
words. I mean, just go read it for yourself.
Control F, police state. Nothing came up. This
is just one paper? That's it? I mean, that's
the whole PDF. It's really, really long. So when
you Control F, police state, nothing? Okay, what
else? I've read it before it says that. Anybody
can go read it right now. So you think they edited
it? No. No. I mean, I can't remember the exact
word. Okay, well, let's look up pandemic. Look
up pandemic. Pandemic just means widely distributed.
Epidemic means you're actually sick. Four mentions
of the word pandemic. Okay. All right. With no
network to transfer critical infectious disease
information without open lines of communications,
thousands more fall sick. The new, in quotes,
disease becomes an unchecked pandemic. By the
time the right expertise is brought to bear on
the problem, it's too late. The disease has spread
around the globe. In a world of global trade
and travel, what's traded faster and travels
furthest are the microbes in every handshake.
What is this in reference to? Okay, it says a
few miles east. Young boy has been. Hold on.
Please go back to that. Yeah, it's just a scenario
that they're painting. So make that a little
larger. No, no, no. Go back to it. Just go back
to where it was. All right. The potential pandemic
in the past few decades have severely tested
the world's ability to work across human borders.
Detection remains weak in many parts of the world.
The public health response has frequently been
slow and fragmented. The looming threat of infectious
disease presents humanity with a new challenge
to communicate and collaborate swifter and with
greater efficiency than ever before. That doesn't
sound like they're trying to end the world. Okay,
well, you're just reading one of these documents.
I can pull up the articles. I can show it to
you. It's world government controlled. They talk
about a worldwide police state. You search the
term pandemic. I'm telling you what's in these
things. Okay, emerging pandemics, the new century,
SARS, avian flu, and swine flu. Investigated
systems to bring in the global government. It
seems like they're trying to prevent pandemics.
If we don't move quickly, viruses will. by continuing
our drive to invest in systems that coordinate
efforts and share information. The Rockefeller
Foundation is working to ensure that we have
the ability to meet the health challenges of
an interconnected world. Isn't the perfect analogy
terrorism? Because it's like terrorism exists.
People want to prevent terrorism, but it's like,
how many rights do you give up in order to do
that? And then, you know, all these proactive
measures that we take to prevent terrorism, a
lot of them create more terrorists. So I think
it's like... a balance of, like, remaining a
free society and dealing with a lot of these
problems. Listen, I sit here, you know, we sit
here and we talk about something, and whether
Jamie can find it or not becomes an arbiter whether
it's real. So they found something about an AT
&T lobbying, but they didn't find a thing about
this. I've got the Operation Lockstep documents
where they say we're going to bring in this global
authoritarian police state. Okay, but you have
to show us those. Well, I mean, I'm sitting here
in studio. talking to you about this but i understand
i understand what you're saying but we we wanted
to try to but you know everybody else watching
this is going to look it up well i hope they
do they're gonna go crazy i hope we oh that's
good i wish we could have found it right then
if it's real no no i know you want to show it
but it might be an interpretation of what they're
saying like the whitmer now it says specifically
the whitmer quote is just a criticism of trump
She's blaming all this lockdown. No, Whitmer
was found by the Supreme Court of Michigan and
by a federal court to have seized all three branches
of governments and basically set up martial law.
They even used those terms. And she was overturned.
When you say in that quote, when you say if you
are sick of lockdowns and you're sick of not
being able to go to church, Joe Biden should
be elected. Agreed. That is not a huge jump from
what he said. No, it's not a huge jump. But the
problem is the way it's being said, she was talking
about how bad Trump handled the rate of infection
first. Of course. Let's expand on that. I remember
interviewing Lou Dobbs like 15 years ago, back
when he was still on CNN, and we were looking
at documents where it said, we're going to bring
in global government, the North American Union,
using the threat of viruses. migration flows
and economic collapse and they said like a deadly
flu or deadly SARS yeah I'm sitting here watching
this power grab watching the UN and and and and
big tech saying well you can't say that the UN's
wrong because the UN's in charge. Since when
is the news, WHO and all these doctors, all these
medical doctors that come out and say other things
other than them, like how steroids cured it or
how hydroxychloroquine helped it, how are they
being banned? Even if they were wrong, they should
have their license removed. That's what that's
about. It's not Google decides that if something
isn't the UN, it's taken down. That's all I'm
saying. Well, it is a problem that they're deciding
which doctors to listen to and which doctors
not. to when there is some real controversy as
to how to handle the virus virus with treatment
right what treatment is effective and what isn't
effective. Now, it turns out there's a lot of
doctors that think that hydroxychloroquine isn't
effective. There's some doctors that thought
it was, and they think a combination of zinc
and hydro... But the problem is the people that
are deciding what gets taken down or not getting
taken down. That's a huge problem. And the problem
is that the doctors who go, well, we think...
It's like we've minimized the voices of the people
that... are saying one thing right and we've
elevated the voices of the people that are saying
another thing and it's like that becomes the
real issue whether people like trump there's
there's stuff to criticize about trump We all
know that. But in their defense, they're doing
it because they think that people are going to
do something foolish and they're going to go
out and spread the virus further because of that.
It's not the media's job, though, to—this is
the problem. I think the media has taken on this
really activist role where they are now— Worse.
It's not the media. Social media. Social media
companies. Not even necessarily the media where
you have legitimate journalists that are taking
on this role. Will Trump—do you think he would
do something in his second term about social
media? I think he certainly is going to do something.
He has to. Why hasn't he done something already?
Because it's so complex because they'll claim
it's election meddling, even though they're doing
that at the same time. What we have is multinational
corporations acting in tandem that are already
making the nation state obsolete. They're creating
a information warfare. monopoly and they're censoring
people and using that power they have. And we
just sit here denying it's going on until it's
too late. I mean, it's a really serious situation.
And it is a crazy situation where all of these
tech companies all lean left, all of them. Yeah,
they do. They lean left and they support. There's
no tech companies that are out there supporting
Donald Trump. There's no tech companies. What's
very interesting is tech companies are very wealthy
people, right? They're insanely wealthy. But
David Pakman had a really good point about that,
that when it comes to their financial dealings,
they're very conservative. They're very libertarian
and conservative. Oh, they don't pay taxes. Right.
I mean, Google pays almost taxes. That's what
I'm telling you. Does Apple complain about Chinese
slave factories in China? No. It's just what
I'm telling you is it's all BS. And when you
study what they're doing, I can sit on my phone
and pull it up. They talk about in lockstep.
bringing in a global authoritarian system. They
talk about riots. They talk about war. If you
can find that article, send it to Jamie. Jamie
got something? I found something, but I'm trying
to understand what it's saying because it's speaking
about years in the future as though they've already
happened. Well, we're not too far away from...
Let's see it. Because they're painting another
scenario just like they painted with that infection
scenario. Archive .org, I found. I went to the
second page of this link, but this is like scenario
narratives. It says lockstep. It talks about
pandemics from 2012 and the SARS and all sorts
of H1N1. So I skipped into the next page just
while you guys were talking. And this is the
part that's a little strange, which is getting
into what I think he is now talking about. Where
is that? Can you highlight it? It started here
because it says something about Kenya in 2025
and people being weary of top -down. Okay. By
2025, people seem to be growing weary of so much
top -down control and letting leaders and authorities
make choices for them. Wherever national interest
clashed with individual interest, there was conflict.
Sporadic pushback becomes increasingly organized
and coordinated as disaffected youth and people
who have seen their status and opportunities
slip away, largely in developing countries, incited
civil unrest. By 2026, protesters in Nigeria
brought down the government, fed up with the
entrenched cronyism and corruption. Even those
who'd like the greater stability and predictability
of this world began to grow uncomfortable and
constrained by so many tight rules. by the strictness
of national boundaries. The feeling lingered
that sooner or later something would inevitably
upset the neat order that the world's governments
had worked so hard to establish. Okay, I never
read that, but that's the other stuff. It's in
there. There's thousands of pages, man. Okay.
It talks about global police state and worldwide
riots and... I mean, we're not that far away.
It's weird that the way they're writing that
because they're writing it almost like... I had
never seen that part. It's like... I'm just saying
it says stuff like that. Listen, look at the
ideas like the EU, right? It's a supranational
financial architecture. People are saying that
borders are racist. People are saying that the
idea of America is racist. The country is, you
know, the idea of a country or a nation state
is racist. There is this growing idea or ideology
that. global governance is a good thing or that
nation states are exclusionary and racist. Well,
it comes down to this. It's not that nation states
are perfect. Multinational corporations are bigger
and operate, in many cases, more powerfully than
governments. Correct, yeah. And so they want
control, and they say they want control, and
they're going to use racial differences between
two countries to play them off against each other,
and they're going to use global crises to centralize
global control. And that's what they say in these
white papers is the corporations are using this
for global control, and there will be rebellion.
And then people have more loyalty to multinational
corporations and more loyalty they have more
in common with people that live in London or
Davos or Switzerland than they do to their American
citizens. And that becomes the problem. But you've
got Google and Facebook executives on jumbo jets
and mansions telling us we've got to lower our
carbon footprint and be poor. They're hypocrites.
It doesn't hold water. Yeah. How do we get out
of this? There it is. Authoritarian capitalism.
I mean, I remember, I don't have it in front
of me, but I was reading the lockstep Rockefeller
documents, and they predicted worldwide police
state, authoritarianism, civil war. They're predicting
in 2018. It says, will Africa's embrace of authoritarian
capitalism a la China continue? and then Vietnam
to require a solar panel in every home in 2022,
and then in 2025... Yeah, it's not the same documents
I saw, but that's the question is... It's weird
the way they're writing this. They're writing
this as if they're predicting... Already happened.
Yeah, well, they're talking about it like they're
seeing the future and almost like it's fiction.
But they're talking about it like it's an inevitability.
Here's Trump saying, we're not going to control
the pandemic. You don't. You get used to it.
You get over it. You fight it with nutraceuticals.
You fight it with therapeutics. It's the idea
that. Bill Gates came out two weeks ago and he
goes, we'll be shut down for 10 years. Is that
what he said? He said, yeah. He said, this goes
on for 10 years until there's not one corona
case. Well, they picked the perfect problem they
can never defeat. But isn't that crazy? You see
a guy like Jamie who literally kicked it in a
day. And they're saying we're going to close
down the world for 10 days. So the war on terror
is still going on. Yeah, exactly. They want a
problem that never goes away. Yeah, it's never
going to. I mean, the Cold War went on forever.
I mean, this is just, they like these things.
But we've entered. into three hours in here two
and a half hours in here we've entered into this
weird spot we're like okay what could be where
you're gonna drink whiskey all right i've already
been about an election night i'm here what could
be done um what can be done man all i know is
i try to tell the truth i make mistakes but i'm
sitting here with these notes i've written where
i read what globalists say i gave you that wall
street journal article they go we're in we're
impure that we can get sick It's time to get
rid of all humans and merge with machines. It's
so beautiful. I think, well, that's just one
kook. And then it's almost all these people.
And really, they're just trying to convince the
public to all roll over and die. But wait a minute.
Isn't that a provocative article by a journalist
who's trying to paint a rosy picture of our symbiotic
relationship with technology? I mean, when someone's
saying, I mean, literally saying. Looking forward
to the end of humanity. It's a provocative article.
But that's the nihilistic attitude these people
actually pick up. Yes, it is. But it's also sort
of this inevitable, if you extrapolate from where
we are now with technology to where we're going
to be in 20, 30 years. And when you look at things
like Neuralink and you look at a lot of this
technology. that they're coming up with. But
we're talking about big tech censoring us. I
don't want them plugged into my goddamn brain.
Yeah, it's probably a bad idea. It seems like
a bad idea to have them invade your body. Well,
when you're talking about centralized power like
that, it is a bad idea. It's not a good idea.
It's a bad idea to give them power over speech.
All I'm saying is, Joe, and I'm glad you're here.
I'm glad you're here. I'm very excited to be
here tonight. I really appreciate you. We have
to get people to debate the fact that there's
people, engineers and technocrats choosing their
course and that the public is not involved in
deciding that course. I hope people are starting
to understand when you see the White House press
secretary get banned from Twitter, when you see
the New York Post links get banned from Twitter.
I hope people are starting to understand that
giving people power, giving large groups power
over whether it's national discourse. whether
it's policy, any of these things. It's bad. It's
a bad idea. It's a bad idea. Exactly. You don't
want to give Alex Jones power. The founding fathers,
although they didn't predict technology, they
didn't predict the internet, they did predict
what happens when you give human beings ultimate
power. Right. Power corrupts, absolute power
corrupts, absolutely. So Joe, you just said it,
so let me ask this question. You've got a huge
audience. We could really change the world right
now. No one's listening. No, they're listening.
If you want to change the world, you go on Alyssa
Milano's show. That's the show. Dude. I only
get three times as many listeners as her. People
that are zombies don't matter. I'm sorry about
what you mean. I'm sure she won't take zombie
offense. Did you guys hear what I said? Yeah.
Listen, you can look at Tony Podesta or John
Podesta and laugh at them. They run the Democratic
Party. It came out two months ago in the New
York Times bragging that they were in the meeting
when they were wargaming on thousands of people
listening on a telephone call. They go, we're
not going to concede and we're going to have
the country break up and we're going to have
secession. And we're going to call for the UN
to invade America. How fucked up would it be
if all this stuff actually comes true the way
you're describing it? If this happens, this will
be fucking insane. Can I use the bathroom? Yeah,
yeah, yeah, go ahead. But when people are talking
about, be careful with that camera. Don't bump
that camera. But I'm not saying it's going to
happen. I'm saying they're saying it. Because
if it doesn't happen, I'll be glad. But they're
like, oh, Jones is saying this is happening.
No, I know you will be glad. They're literally
saying this. But if this does happen. This podcast
can be heavily criticized, right? We are all
aware of this. But we knew that coming in. But
when this goes down, if this goes down the way
you're describing it, how eerie would this be?
Well, it would be very eerie. Eerie. It would
be very scary. Because let me tell you, this
is what they're saying they're going to do. Now,
I hope they don't do it. But they are saying
that they're going to contest the election when
they lose. And if Trump tries to declare it.
Big tech has implemented this AI system that's
going to block hundreds of millions of Americans
from being able to say Trump won election night.
So that's why election night is so spectacular.
And some people can say, well, there's never
been voter fraud before. Voter fraud has been
so minuscule in the past. That is true. But however.
the ability to vote by mail in advance never
really existed like it exists now. Exactly. 80
million ballots put out there. 80 million ballots
put out there is a total wild card. So who is
counting all these ballots? It's the locales.
It's whoever grabs them. It's whoever puts in
the false names. There's been a bunch of people
arrested. Right, but say if you're in a democratically
controlled state, so who is controlling and counting
those ballots? Brian Redman. He's a good guy.
He'll tell us the truth. Brian, get over here
real quick. He's going to be here for two minutes.
Okay. We need Brian. No, I mean, seriously. I
don't know what's going to happen, Joe. I know
the Democrat chief strategist says, we're going
to contest the election. We're going to break
the country up like Civil War 1862. And we're
going to do all this. And we're going to say
that. Go ahead. They found water on the moon.
Oh, awesome. They did find water on the moon.
You know, six months before they said that, Buzz
Aldrin called me up. And he said there's water
on the moon? And he goes, they're going to crash
an Indian probe in there. It's like 2007 or something.
They're going to crash an Indian probe on the
moon. I want you to know we already crashed one.
They're going to find the water. I was like,
thank you, Buzz Aldrin. So he called you up?
Yep. Does Buzz call you often? No, he's called
me like three times. Are you ever shocked? He's
like, it's Alex's puzzle. It actually got like
20 million views before they took it off YouTube.
He was on the show one time, and he goes, my
secretary really likes you. She's hot, you're
lucky I'm doing this. I'm like, well, yes, sir.
And he goes, there is the moon of Mars that is
where the real obelisk is, 2001. And the aliens
created the pyramids. And I just wanted to tell
you, Alex, you got to. What? He said the aliens
created the pyramids? Yeah, and there was an
obelisk on Mars. I heard that part. That's not
as shocking. Buzz Aldrin said the aliens created
the pyramids? I'm telling you. I was contacted
by Buzz Aldrin's secretary. Okay. I'm picking
this up. This is real. I don't believe you are.
Whenever this was, like 12 years ago, 10 years
ago, whatever it was. Hey, Buzz Aldrin wants
to come on. So he checked. It's Buzz Aldrin.
He wants to talk about his new book. And once
he gets on, he goes, it is the sole moon Choron
or whatever it's called. Look up the moon of
moon of. I want off memory. I get this stuff
wrong sometimes. Of Mars. He goes, that is where
the true obelisk is, and that will give us the
data tapes to go to the next level. And I just
wanted you to know that because you're a good
person, that the pyramids were created by aliens,
and we're doing important work. There he is.
Buzz Aldrin admits aliens built the pyramids
and Phobos Monument. Yeah, he said that when
he talked to me on C -SPAN, yeah. So he said
it? He really said aliens built the pyramids?
I swear to God. This guy really went off the
reservation. Like, you think NASA's, like, doing
a better vetting process now? Because this guy
really... Well, you know, he's had tough times.
Well, he just endorsed Trump. Oh, did he? Why
did he endorse Trump? All the military endorsed
Trump. All the police units endorsed Trump. But
listen, I'm not bragging. I don't know why. I
thought he had something on about a book he wrote.
He starts telling me about aliens, the pyramids,
and the freaking... Let me ask you this. What
did you think about the Pentagon saying recently
that they've recovered crafts that are not of
this world? I think it's probably true. I think
it's probably true as well. I think we're like
the ditch, like a movie theater. Stuff in the
ditch. When I talked to Commander Fravor, who
is the guy who saw the Tic Tac UFO off the coast
of San Diego, the way he describes it and the
video footage they got of this thing, his take
on it is fucking chilling. That thing went from
60 ,000 feet above. Tic -Tac. Okay. Yeah, it
looks like a Tic -Tac. That's Joe's new code
name is Tic -Tac. I thought it was a Tic -Tac
UFO. No, no, no. What? It's a huge problem. No,
it's this little Tic -Tac thing. And what did
he say about it? He said that this thing went
from 60 ,000 feet above sea level to one inside
of a second. Wow. He said it defied propulsion.
By any understanding that we have of physics,
the way it moved was insane. It was actively
blocking tracking systems, which is an act of
war. That's not what I do. They block all the
radars. You could listen to him on my podcast,
but I would actually recommend you listen to
him on Lex Friedman's podcast. It's available
on YouTube. And Lex does an amazing job of talking
to him and breaking down the technical aspects.
Let's do that. Joe, what do you think the universe
is? What do you think? Let's talk real. What's
the secret of the universe? Totally legit report
says buzz all. saw aliens when he was up in space.
That's sarcasm. Oh. Joe, is that you in the photo?
I don't look like that. Somebody reached out
to his people and they said that it's bogus and
we don't know where it came from. It's bogus?
We don't know where it came from? Well, he came
on my show and said that... The pyramid thing?
The pyramid quote? He said it's bogus? Well,
maybe they pulled him aside. Joe, let's have
fun here. Everybody's watching. This is an epic
podcast. It's part three. Joe Rogan. I want to
know. So what do you think runs the universe?
What do you think the secret is? Who are the
DMT elves? When's the last time you took DMT?
It's been a couple years. I don't think that
there is any doubt that there's other life out
there. It's a matter of if it contacts us regularly,
whether or not it's contacted us, or why it comes
and why it visits. Or Jacques Vallée, I believe.
I think his perception is not that they're from...
another planet but that that would be probably
the least spectacular answer and that they could
be interdimensional travelers some people believe
that their time track and jack valet is the guy
who uh steven spielsberg he modeled that french
scientist in close encounters of the third kind
after him he's a really really interesting guy
and that's what i personally believe is interdimensional
it could be that it could be that Our understanding
of reality itself is very limited. It's like
if you wave your hand above certain insects,
they have no idea you're even there, right? They
lack the ability to detect it. We have senses
that we assume are the only senses that are available.
And it is entirely likely that there are many
dimensions that we don't have access to. Right.
And this is the quantum physicists and all those
guys that write the shit on yellow legal paths.
You don't understand. They all believe there's
many, many dimensions. I agree with you. I agree
with you. I think the universe is insanely huge
and they're finding life. compatible planets
on a daily basis there's hundreds of them now
so i agree with you let me ask this question
then what do we do about this corrupt political
elite trying to make us look at them and follow
them how do we break free of them well that's
a different thing of the universe but my question
is like why are they telling us now that they've
acquired these ships or that they they they have
access to these things or that they know these
things are real you know um bob lazar has basically
been describing exactly that And exactly the
same way since 1989 when he was first hiding
when he was on George Knapp's television show
in Vegas. And they had him out only as a silhouette.
And then he eventually came out and said that
he was a propulsion expert that was brought to
Area S4. And they've tried to discredit him and
they've tried to talk. One of the things that
he said was he talked about Element 115 and that
this was something that they used to propel these
crafts and it was something that it can change
gravity, can bend gravity and propel itself in
a way that is not like any propulsion system
that we use now, which essentially you have to
push something out the back to make it go forward,
whether it's flames or a rocket or anything else,
like even an airplane, right? It propels things
forward. And what he was saying is that... what
this element 115 is allowing them to do is to
somehow or another bend space and time. Somehow
or another bend gravity. Hold space. But they
don't know how it works. They don't know what
it's doing. But let's talk about this. They know
it operates on this element. Let's talk about
this. Hold on. They know it operates on this
element that was only theoretical until I think
it was 2013 or 2015. They used a particle collider
and they detected it. And then actual... element
115 that it was actually real and that's what
the superconducting super colliders are for well
i mean they're there for detecting many things
cyclotrons well these particle colliders are
for detecting many different things that are
theoretical and they they find these things to
be true and then it becomes you know a scientific
record What I think is that we are apes. We are
these weird talking apes that are in an adolescent
stage of technological evolution. And what we
might be looking at when we see these tic -tac
UFOs and other things, we might be looking at
something from the future. We might be looking
at time travelers. We might be looking at something
that comes back and visits us. Joe, I think that's
a good approximation. We're a little bit beyond
just apes. Clearly, we're from outside the planet,
and there's something bigger going on, like this
life form's happened before. This is a major
test. And so we can sit there and just say, oh,
we're just apes. No, I don't mean that. What
I mean by we're just apes is that in comparison
to what we could be eventually through evolution.
You're saying we're in a metamorphosis. Look,
we're a lot smarter than apes, right? Than regular
apes that are in the zoo. Well, some of the public's
dumber than apes. Right, I was about to say,
let's not paint with a broad brush. But we are
nowhere near where our potential lies. Our potential
lies far, far, far in advance of what we are
currently. Some of this has to do with some of
these symbiotic technologies that we're talking
about, like Neuralink and a lot of these things
that are being proposed that are eventually going
to find their way into the human body and accelerate
our ability. Are they going to censor our ability?
Well, because we're already growing and all I
see from big tech is censorship. So is the Neuralink
going to censor what I do? A little plug in and
make me feel great and hit my pleasure centers.
Well, when you're talking about human emotions
and greed and power and all these different things,
these are all biological issues that we have
that the idea is. will be transcended if you
could somehow if you believe the big tech lords
aren't like us they're they're us though so they're
in charge of the same thing that we already are
so to say oh big tech lords are going to take
us away from our human problems right but do
you understand sin they're going to make it worse
okay but do you understand that they didn't understand
what technology was going to create when it created
the internet The ability to distribute information
that existed pre -1990, whatever, when the internet
became mainstream. It was very, very, very different
than it is today. And it's very hard to get away
with the things you could get away with in the
early 1980s. What they can do now in terms of
a regular person and their ability to transmit
information, to access information, it's multitudes
and giant leaps. I get it. The technology's there.
I'm not against the technology. It's those that
introduce it to us and they control how it's
deployed. Understand. That's the big issue. Everything
is about that. But the thing is, what I was trying
to get to is, The way information has gotten
out of their hands, and you can distribute it
in a way that they never anticipated. If they
did anticipate it, I guarantee you they would
have never let the internet be free. No, I agree.
I used to have a point. I think that same thing
is going to happen with all other technologies.
And if that's the case, technology may be our
only hope. Technology may be the only thing that
saves us from all these human emotions, the need
for power and greed and control. The one thing
that might save us from that is the symbiotic
relationship with technology. technology where
we connect to things that will alleviate a lot
of the problems of evolution. But Joe, if that
technology... I'm not saying this is good or
bad. I'm not saying you're wrong. Can I say something?
Yeah. You're doing really good. This is great
rants. Best Joe Rogan I've ever seen. I'm not
being patronizing. It's good stuff. It's okay.
You're drunk. No, no. I'm saying this is powerful.
Be nice. Be nice. What I'm saying is there's
outside groups trying to program that. So you
can't project your own goodness. onto this i'm
not saying even goodness i'm saying no what i'm
saying is you've been ranting for five minutes
and i'm just what did you say i get what you're
saying it's just that you're sitting there saying
this will free us from our problems but it's
still humans that program the nexus points of
it so it could actually amplify the problems
i'm saying we should be wary of all of them oh
it certainly could look it could go sideways
it could all go bad But it also could go to a
point where people don't feel the need to do
that anymore. And that we recognize that a lot
of what we have is we are escaping the shackles
of our monkey bodies. Our monkey bodies. So if
we're silicon and don't need resources anymore,
we can just be spiritual. And then we'll be able
to free ourselves and not hurt the Earth anymore?
Hop in that Tic Tac and fly to Alpha Centauri
in the blink of an eye. So we need to... No,
I already see the transmission. If you could
have a spaceship that would allow you to go anywhere
in the galaxy, would you be willing to give up...
Any of your emotions for that? No, I know the
digital deal. Give up your body for the Silicon
Gods and become a god. This is all fun and games,
but legitimately. In California, we're not even
allowed to go to Applebee's, so let's stop with
the spaceship. Let's just try to get... I'm not
allowed to leave my fucking house. I want to
go to the comedy store. Yeah, I mean, we'll get
a spaceship eventually. Let's get a few rights
back first. I already got your thing. I'm coming
to your election night. You're drinking with
me. Election night. Top ratings. 25 billion viewers.
Listen, you invited yourself to this. I think
you should settle down. You told me I'm coming.
No, you invited yourself. I said you could come
in for a little bit, but you're making it the
Alex Jones show. No, I'm not. It's a bit of an
issue. It's a bit of an issue. Settle down. It's
a bit of an issue? It's going to be a fun experience.
Quit being so mean. You literally... Am I being
mean? No, not at all. I think Joe wants to beat
my ass right now. No, I don't. Listen, Alex,
I love you. But what I'm saying, and I'm not
even disagreeing with you, I'm saying that I
think when we're talking about aliens and we're
talking about life forms from out of space and
space travel and shit. The big issues of the
election. You see those fucking things. Like
the iconic aliens. They all have big heads. Yeah,
the greys. Little tiny muscle -less bodies. Shaved
heads. They've all escaped. They've escaped all
of the things that make us. They look like what
we're going to be. Yeah, but who wants to be
that? I don't want to be that right now. I mean,
that's what I'm saying. No, I'm with you. I like
being a person. Right. I think we should be humans
for as long as we can. What do you think aliens
are? There are all sorts of interdimensional
forces in the universe and multidimensions. So
there's like bad aliens that are trying to manipulate
our development. Gretchen Whitmer. Because a
high level, exactly, a high level would not try
to manipulate our development. Right. Okay, so
Joe is imprinting on these demons because he
loves them. He's a bad person. No, no, seriously.
So all I'm saying is we need to build towards
the next level and do amazing things. What do
you think of the theory? And I did invite myself
on the election show. Please. It's going to be
great. I got on my news in front of Joe. I'll
do it again right now. I'll get on my news right
now. Stop making it about you. No, it is about
me. I'm in front of Ganesh. You're drunk. I want
to come on. Yes. We're going to ban you from
alcohol. You're going to smoke weed with me.
We're going to have a party. I will definitely
do that on November 3rd. I'll be here two minutes.
What do you think about the theory that human
beings are the worst? a product of accelerated
evolution. That they came down here and they
genetically manipulated lower hominids and they
created human beings. Listen, I already have
a genetic memory. I already told you all this.
I mean, I already... You have a genetic memory?
Yes, that's epigenetics. Yeah. Okay. So I have
a genetic... You have a genetic memory. Right.
I have a genetic memory and I have a genetic
memory that we're... You know, I have a bunch
of memories. It's like you go watch Star Wars.
Like, I've done this before. This looks totally
normal. We're in the universe. We're in the planets.
We're here. Our life's forms have been all over
the place, like little seeds that jump from planet
to planet, like blowing through the space winds.
So yeah, we've already been here before. Because
this is one of the things that Lazar brought
up that they discussed with him at Area S4. They
said that they believe that human beings are
the product of accelerated evolution. And he
wasn't sure if they were fucking with him. Like
when he was reading all that stuff, he's like,
is this like disinformation? No, they weren't
fucking with him. Yeah. I mean, yeah. god doesn't
know where god came from whoa and we said that
last time that's heavy and we don't know where
we came from right but we have the archetypal
memories that go so far and then our big fear
is have an evolutionary death of the species
it's like a line of you know flowers or plants
or you know whatever we are And it's a whole
genetic experience. We're conscious individuals,
but then we have a genetic experience that goes
on forever as long as the lie of the genetic
experience doesn't die. So we're always looking
for eternal life. As long as we keep having kids,
they have kids, we live forever. That's us. We
just get better. Well, as long as the Earth doesn't
experience a massive extinction event. But that's
what I'm saying. What if we go interplanetary?
So the main mission is that. Well, November 3rd.
79 days. 79 days of chaos. I am endorsing Joe
Biden right now. I'm voting for Kanye. By the
way, that might be a good strategy if you endorse
Joe Biden right now. I'm going to go with my
history of voting for people that have been on
the podcast, so I'm going to vote for Kanye.
I'm going with Joe Jorgensen because I like to
back a winner. Am I sitting in the same seat
as Kanye? Yes, you are. All right, I'm fulfilled.
It's the best. All right. But before this goes
any further off the rails, I think we're good.
We've done it. Oh, you want to end this transmission?
Do you? I never got to all my notes. You got
more shit? What else would you like to talk about?
I got more shit than you can fucking imagine
here. You got to come back November 3rd. You
got to have guys wheeling documents. Just wheeling
documents. Joe said it. Joe said it. He's like,
you're the one inviting yourself November 3rd.
Oh, you're coming. You certainly did. I waited
like... You invited yourself. 19 months or something.
That was just fine. Alex, if I showed you the
list of people that are trying to get on this
fucking show, it would make your head spin. I
know, but I live down the street. I understand.
I don't care. You don't want me 30 minutes on
election night? We're going to be fine. We're
going to be fine. But I'm just saying. I don't
know how I'm going to survive without it. I'm
fine. It's very difficult for me to manage a
fucking small fraction of the number of people
that are trying to get on. Well, this is an epic
podcast. We've only got to go another hour. It
is. It's like the last time. I will be dead.
I'm going to go on another hour. This is going
to be bigger. Then the Elon Musk. It doesn't
have to be, man. Stop thinking like that. I'm
the second biggest podcast. You can't be competitive.
Every listener has to spread this link right
now or I'm going to die. Well, YouTube. No, I
wrote notes for you. Let me read these notes
to you. Yes, please do. Please do. Okay. Okay.
What's important? Major goals to accomplish.
How the president could invoke martial law. You
handed this to me. I don't even know how he did
it. It's like a magic trick. All of a sudden,
this is in front of my hands. I don't even remember
it getting here. I don't remember me having it.
Well, these are big, important topics. Highlighted.
Do you drive around with this just in the car?
No, he's actually done research to prepare for
this show. No, I know. Don't research shame.
And then I was like, I'm not going to drink.
I'm going to be good. And we're already here.
We're talking about heavy shit. I just wish this
was six days from now so I could be drunk. How
many hours are we into this? We're three hours
in. We're three in. If we don't break the last
record, we're going down. What's the last record?
No, we don't have to break records. No, Tim Dillon,
you rant while I get ready. Give us your latest
comedy. I love Joe. Like, it's true. I was like,
literally, I mean, he's like, Joe, can I please
come under the election? Listen, we're going
to be fine. Let's not talk about that. And he
slapped me. We're good. He literally punched
me in the nose. He goes, boom. I didn't do that.
And I groveled around. None of that happened.
But tell me, go over your notes, and Tim and
I will talk. Is this everything that you hoped
it would be? This is my version of a Make -A
-Wish kid going to Disney World. This is the
greatest thing I've ever done is to sit here.
I've watched Alex since I'm 13 years old. Pre
-9 -11, when he was ranting about the WTO. And
I followed him through 9 -11, through Bohemian
Grove, all the big events of my childhood. And
it's just big to be here. Can I say I'm very
impressed with your knowledge? You know a lot
of this stuff. Well, I didn't go to college,
so you have a lot of time. You have a lot of
time if you don't go to college. I'm self -educated.
Yeah, well, there's a lot of information that
you have at your disposal. You got some notes?
I like how your new studio is like a colon. Listen,
this new studio came together in just a few weeks.
We really didn't know what to do. I'm not putting
it down. I had this room. We banged it out real
quick. But this is going to be known as the colon.
The red pill. Some people call it the red pill.
Yeah. That's Radio Rahim. Oh, my God. This is
the red pill. He called it the red pill. So this
is a very rare studio. You're getting a new one
ready, I know. Yeah. We're having problems finding
a good location. But yeah, we'll have a new one.
How about my house? I got a huge area. We're
going to find a good spot. It's amazing. We're
looking right now. We're in the process. All
right, let's get serious. Okay. Oh, I covered
a lot of this. Alex, we're good, man. We're good.
No, we have another two hours. I'm going to see
you again in a week. I am on the nightliness.
Relax. I have to beg. How about I just beg a
little bit? Come on, man. Is there anything else
you really want to discuss? No, I mean, I'm glad
that Jamie is better than I am at searching the
internet. I'm not kissing his ass, but I'm really
good at it. He's better than I am, which almost
no one is. He does it with one hand. The problem
is I remember all this stuff. Now, most of the
time it's accurate. Sometimes it's not. But,
I mean, if I'm saying something, I believe I
saw it or I didn't. One thing that was inaccurate
I didn't want to correct earlier, but... The
year you were talking about something, you kept
saying 1963, and then they went to like 82 or
whatever. That happened in 73. That group wasn't
even around yet. Something to Rome. Club of Rome.
Yeah, that wasn't even created until 68. So just
for clarification purposes. Okay, cool. I think
they had a subgroup earlier than that. I'm not
saying you're wrong. Yeah. Well, who knows? I
mean, he has George Soros COVID. This is a compromised
individual. Google might have compromised the
records. Oh, that's another thing I want to say.
Can I say something? Yeah. This is the most important
thing we said tonight. We said a lot of important
things. But both of you are not drinking. Yes.
So you don't know. Right. But this is it right
now. Okay. mRNA vaccines. Yeah. So when you think
about a regular vaccine goes in, it's a broken
bacteria, a broken virus. It's defeated. Your
body learns how to kick its ass. It's like a
dummy. It's like having an attack dog training
on a dummy. The T lymphocyte, white blood cell,
it's like a big badass Mike Tyson. It learns
how to defeat it. mRNA vaccines go into your
cells as a virus. They're viruses. So it's a
virus they inject you with that reprograms your
cell. to then have a certain response to things
and release proteins, which is what cancer does.
And so they admit on the news that 100 % of people
that take these are getting sick. 20 % are going
to the hospital. And so they also have vaccines
that are called behavior modification vaccines.
You can type it in. Okay, but let me pause right
there. mRNA vaccines. You said 100 % of them
get sick and 20 % of them go to the hospital.
They had two studies. In one study, 100 % got
sick, 20 % with the hospital. In another study,
80 % got sick, and of those, 20 % with the hospital.
That's CBS News. Jamie's going to find that right
now. You type in Bill Gates grilled over vaccine
dangers. You'll have CBS News reporting it. But
the point is they admit a bunch of vaccine deaths
have happened now from the test. But what was
that getting to before that? You were just talking
about mRNA vaccines. Behavioral modification.
Type in vaccine to cure heroin addiction. We're
going to get to that, but before we get to that,
we've got to Google the stats on mRNA vaccines
because this is going to be highly contested,
so we have to find out. Well, no, you can type.
I'm not going to share the clip. Bill Gates.
But we just Googled the stats on mRNA patients
in trial. I think they don't even have the stats
on that. So how do you know it? Bill Gates was
on CBS News. And he said 80 % of the people get
sick? Yeah. And 20 % of them go to the hospital?
No, it was two vaccines. They said one vaccine
100 % got sick and a certain percent went to
the hospital. The other 80 % got sick and 20
% of those went to the hospital. And sometimes
that does happen even with a flu vaccine, right?
I swear to God, you type in Bill Gates grilled
by CBS, they'll bring it up. Right. Certain vaccines
do get people a little bit sick. We had that
conversation about the whole thing in India.
He introduced a lot of vaccines in India. There
were some negative reactions to them. I mean,
that's what happens. It's just a lot of people.
Joe, I sent you the article. MRNA vaccines. I
sent you the article about AP, about the majority
of new polio cases are the Bill Gates vaccine.
We'll get to that, too. Let me see if Jamie can
find this mRNA thing. I don't know how to find
it, really. You know, you don't have a Morton's
next door here. M -R -N -A. I'm trying to look
it up, but I'm like... Are you going to go steak,
or are you going to go barbecue? I'm just finding
lots of barbecue. No steak? Yeah, I'll get a
steak. He's hammered. He's making a point about
vaccines, and now we're at steak. I am not hammered
at all. I've been drinking orange juice. You
polished off a half a bottle of orange juice.
Joe, I'm just telling you to have fun. I'm happy
you're here. Legitimately. So, if you can't find
that. The behavioral modification vaccine. What
is it you want to find? Bill Gates polio vaccine.
Causes of polio. AP. AP. AP .com. The headline,
the exact headline is. Why does everybody hate
Bill Gates? What is going on? Because he's so
sexy. I don't think people hate him. No, it was
like AP. Bill Gates did not say 700 ,000 people
have negative side effects. He did say that.
My God, he said it on NBC News. Bill Gates did
not say 700 ,000 people have negative side effects
from a coronavirus vaccine. I had the video of
that. Okay, but pull up AP Bill Gates polio vaccine.
But that's a coronavirus. He said polio vaccine.
All right. Now I'm pissed. I'm going to tell
you the headline. We'll see if there's a polio
article. Hold on. What was the headline? It was
UN. UN vaccine causes polio. UN vaccine causes
polio. Okay. UN vaccine causes polio. Google
is not going to show you shit. Google is compromised.
Can you just ask Jeeves, please? UN says new
polio outbreak in Sudan was caused by oral vaccine.
Yeah. Whoa. It's not good. New polio outbreak
in Sudan is caused by oral vaccine. Look at that
kid's face. Oh, my God. Is that a terrifying
image? The image of them distributing that. Look
at that poor kid's face. Imagine that kid getting
polio from that vaccine. He looks so terrified.
Oh, my God. Yeah, I mean, that's tragic. Then
a bunch of them died. Jesus Christ. Hold on,
hold on. Back up, back up, back up, back up.
What does it say up there? World Health Organization
says a new polio outbreak in Sudan is linked
to an ongoing vaccine -sparked epidemic in Chad.
A week after the UN... Vaccine -sparked epidemic!
...health agency declared the African continent
free of the wild polio vaccine. World Health
Organization said it found 11 additional vaccine
-derived polio cases in Sudan and that the virus
had been identified in environmental samples.
There are typically many more unreported cases
for every confirmed polio patient. The highly
infectious disease can spread quickly in contaminated
water and most often strikes children under five.
Fuck. Jesus Christ. In rare instances, the live
polio virus in the oral vaccine can mutate in
a form capable of sparking new outbreaks. So
let me tell you a story. My grandmother died
three years ago at 92. Incredible woman. That's
fucking terrifying. She was told by her doctor
in 1954 when she got the second polio shot, they
said, sorry, it was live. It paralyzed her. She
was on crutches the rest of her life. They told
her it did to her. Jesus Christ. So see, I just
told you that. Yeah, it's true. And that's a
whitewash what AP's doing. I would imagine. So
I'm telling you, I make mistakes because I can't
remember all this stuff. I understand. You remember
a lot. But I'm not trying to lie. The last thing
I want to say is this. I'd like to retire the
next year. I'd like to finish up my work, clean
up mistakes I made, talk about other stuff, because
I'm going to end up dying of a heart attack or
going crazy. I'd do this 18 hours a day. I'd
like to get you in shape. I'm totally stressed
out, Joe. I'm dying. I know you are. I'm dying.
I literally do this stuff constantly. I read
thousands of articles a day. I know you do. If
I text you at 3 o 'clock in the morning, you
respond right back. You're wide awake. I'm not
a victim. I'm just telling you, I'm dying. I
understand. So I can't do this much longer. And
I want everybody to know I love my crew, but
I told them I can't keep running this operation.
I just want to tell the truth, and I want to
get out in the next year. It doesn't mean I won't
go on your show once a year and write a book
or something, but I'm done. I want you to get
healthy. I need to get healthy. I try to get
healthy. Why don't you hire a trainer and hire
a dietician? I try. Because I know you got off
the booze for quite a while, and we were talking,
and you said you felt great. I did feel great.
I lost like 40 pounds. How long did you get off
the booze for? Four months of no alcohol, about
eight months and barely any in like the last
three or four hours right back. But you were
talking to me about Adderall too. I want you
to talk about that because that's a good thing
for people to hear, the problems that you had
with Adderall because that shit scares the fuck
out of me. Well, I'm not going to get into any
of that type of stuff. The point is that the
things that doctors push, the things that go
on, the whole country is drugged up on a bunch
of stuff. Yeah. And it's not good. not i do caffeine
and alcohol that's it and and it's all very very
destructive and you know it gets to the point
where like you're exhausted unless you drink
and it's not a good thing that's why i'm glad
you sober in october last october i was sober
yeah um do you think you could just kick it totally
i mean you kicked it for four months do you think
if i wasn't doing a show every day and having
to read i mean i'm not exaggerating i read 50
articles, I'd probably scan 500. I mean, I look
at so much stuff that it's enslaving me. I just
want to... I don't want to be around it anymore.
It's not like I'm scared of it. I want to be
something else. It has negative consequences
on your health. Yeah, so for me, I just want
to get away from all of it. What do you want
to do? I'd love to go hunting and fishing and
hiking and oil painting and doing sculpture.
I love metal sculpture. That's a beautiful chimpanzee
skull you got right there. I mean, I've done
this 26, 27 years. And when you've done it that
long, you want to stay in the fight, but at the
same time, you want to not do it anymore. And
that's the thing about people, the Democrats
suing me and attacking me. Before Trump even
got elected, I was already telling people, hey,
I'm going to shut this company down. I can't
fund all of you. I can't do this anymore. Them
attacking me made me keep fighting. Did you think
that if you were healthier, if you maybe just
did less, you could be all right with it? I didn't
do that as a stunt. I'm being quite honest with
you. I'm a smart. I'm a smart. I think I'm going
to die of a heart attack at like 50 -something.
I'm 47 now. And I just have to like, there's
no way to do this full -time. Either you do it
or you turn loose. And I'd like to just for a
few years just disappear. So you think that the
amount of shit that's out there, and this is
a problem with conspiracies, right? Because you
keep finding more and more and more that are
provable. And you start going crazy because you
start really... Exactly. You can't sleep. And
then you lose who you... Exactly. Like, I don't
like the globalists. I'm not giving in to them.
I'm giving in to, like, my own body. I understand.
It's not their... Like, their attacks keep me
fighting them. Like, they keep thinking, like,
oh, let's mess with him more. He'll give up.
That makes me, like, attack more. And I'm trying
to, like, get him to top attacking me. It's not
some Machiavellian thing I'm saying. I just want
to, like, I don't want to be in, I don't want
to look at the news. Maybe if you just took some
time off and, like, just got healthy. Maybe that's
what you need. Maybe you just need an extended
vacation. I mean, you're your own boss, right?
You could do that. Do you ever think you maybe
shrink the operation down a little bit and then
you could kind of do what you want, how you want,
you know, instead of just being a 24 -hour day
operation, you could just take it down? Well,
here's my problem. I want to get personal. I
mean, I had perfect teeth until like two years
ago. I have to wear a mouth brace because I literally
crush my teeth when I'm asleep. Like I broke
one just the other day. I got implants going
in right here. And I'm just like literally in
my sleep clenching my teeth so hard that I've
got like giant muscles. I'm not Arnold Schwarzenegger,
but my jaws are. They're like a chipmunk because
psychologically I'm trying to defeat all this.
It's like at a certain point, I can't do it all.
So I don't feel sorry for myself. You've earned
it. You've earned some time off. Yeah, why don't
you just take some months off? Just mark an extended
hiatus whenever you feel like you can get away
and just decide you're going to take three months
off. Put the fucking cell phone down. Eat healthy,
exercise. I mean, you could hire a trainer. You
know? Not a bad idea. There's nothing I want
to do more than that. Because you know what?
I'm doing this Sober October thing. done it in
the past, one of the things that we've done is
these fitness challenges. You don't even realize
what you can do until you're forced to do something.
If you force yourself, like say, hey, for the
month of January, I'm not going to drink and
I'm going to exercise every day and I'm going
to put it up on my website and let everybody
know what I'm doing and just force yourself to
try to get healthy. Only eat healthy food. Maybe
get a dietician. Maybe get a trainer. Not even
maybe. Get a dietician. Get a trainer. Get someone
who makes meal preps for you. Gives you healthy
food to eat. And this is all you're going to
eat. No processed bullshit. Just healthy food.
Wouldn't be a bad idea. Just take a whole month
and do nothing but that. Just leave the fucking
news alone. Let this crazy world sort itself
out. No, I agree, because now I look at news,
and it's just like, I used to be like, oh, I
got them right here. Now I'm almost like, oh,
my God. Yeah, because you're probably overrun.
You're probably taxed out. Your body's probably
barely hanging in there. I mean, if you're boozing
a lot, and you're not getting sleep, and you're
grinding your teeth, none of these are good signs.
I'll be honest about it with the listeners, but
at the end of the day. This is fundamental. This
is an anti -human movement. It's a globalist
movement. And I get people that are doing it,
or sociopaths that have created a cosmology to
explain why they're doing all these evil things.
I feel like it's such an important mission that
it should be exposed. Joe, I'm just glad you
moved to Austin. I'm glad that Tim's here. Tim's
moving. He just told me. I've got to save L .A.
first, and then I want to go work with Bill and
Melinda Gates for a while, and then I will come
to Austin. You can't save L .A. I know. I know.
We'll see. November 3rd. So, Joe, what is your
prediction? Who wins? Who wins in six days? I'm
not smart enough to make the prediction. Trump's
going to win. I think it's going to be chaos
either way. It's going to be chaos. I think if
Trump—I've never, ever in my life felt this country
more divided. It feels more divided now than
I've ever felt before, where the possibility
of a civil war doesn't seem outside the realm
of— It doesn't seem like something ridiculous.
If they said it in the past, someone said, oh,
this country is on the brink of a civil war.
Ten years ago, I'd be like, listen to this crazy
fuck. But you say it now, and I go, I could see
it. Tim, why are you not moving to Texas? Well,
I might eventually. I might eventually. I don't
know. We're going to see. I got to open a comedy
club here. Joe convinced me. Joe told me to move
to L .A. a year ago. And then I moved and it
just destroyed. Well, tell me to move here. I
might move here and it'll be a problem. We're
going to start a comedy club out here. Yeah.
We're going to set this place up right. Well,
thank you for having me. My pleasure. I appreciate
it. I appreciate you being here. It was everything
I hoped you would be. Good. This was a great
one, Alex. This is really good. I think people
got to see a side of you that... they maybe even
didn't see in the other two podcasts. I think
you did a great account of yourself. Really?
You think so? Yeah. A lot of the shit that you
brought up today was, I mean, you were pulling
shit off the top of your head. A lot of it was
accurate. A good, solid percentage of it. I'm
not trying to bullshit. No, you're not trying
to bullshit. No, I know you're not. This is what
I've always told people about you. And again,
I think that we're at a critical time. where
we've got to rethink all these people that are
calling for people to be censored and calling
for people to be deplatformed. And I think you've
got to rethink this. I think everybody has to
rethink this, because you might be looking back
on this 10 years from now and going, oh, my God,
what the fuck did I support? I agree with you,
but you're being nice to the censors. They're
tyrants. We should hear everybody's views. I
think there's a lot of people in this machine,
and a lot of these people, they're not tyrants.
They think they're doing good. They really do.
I think there's a lot of people that are out
there calling for people to be deplatformed,
calling for people to be censored because maybe
they have children and they see their children
being indoctrinated into QAnon and all this kind
of ridiculous thinking and maybe they think that
the way to fight some of this shit is to just
take that stuff offline so the kids have no access
to it. That only makes their children want it
more. Well, not only that, it makes the people
that believe that there's a conspiracy to silence
the truth, it makes them even more fervent in
their beliefs. They start believing it even more
rabidly. And not only that, it creates echo chambers.
And let's end this positive. You are happy you
moved to Texas. I fucking love it here. I love
the people. I love the town. I love everything
about it. I do. But that's the good news. And
Tim Dillon, you come here, lower taxes, good
people. We want all the people from other parts
of the country. Great food to come. Good food.
Food here is amazing. Yeah. There's a lot of
great stuff here. And the kids here are into
QAnon, which I think that's good. All of them.
The children should be into QAnon. Well, they
get tattooed when they're in the fifth grade.
Listen, I love you, Alex Jones. Thanks for being
here. I love you, Tim Dillon. Thank you for having
me. Thank you for being here. Thank you, guys.
We did it. We did it. We did it. All right. We
did three and a half hours. Something like that,
yes. To infinity and beyond. Band .video. Don't
visit it. Band .video. Bye, everybody. Thank
you.