WEBVTT 00:00:01.610 --> 00:00:04.730 Welcome to this curated educational transcript of the Joe Rogan Experience. In this session, we provide a deep-dive examination of the critical perspectives and historical dialogues presented in Episode #2452. Our mission is to offer a high-fidelity, searchable research resource for students of cultural history, emerging technology, and global discourse. This transcript has been specifically optimized for academic reference, linguistic study, and archival preservation regarding Cinema History, Narrative Architecture, and the Evolution of Screenwriting. Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan 00:00:04.730 --> 00:00:08.150 experience. Train by day. Joe Rogan podcast by 00:00:08.150 --> 00:00:14.949 night. All day. Come on, Roger. Yeah, fuck it. 00:00:15.650 --> 00:00:18.429 Fuck it. Fuck it. Go for it. Fuck it. We'll do 00:00:18.429 --> 00:00:21.129 it live. Do it live. That's a classic. Yeah, 00:00:21.129 --> 00:00:25.940 that's a classic look behind the scenes. Fucking 00:00:25.940 --> 00:00:30.000 crazy people telling you the news. Yeah, that's 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:33.820 good. And the William Shatner one where, you 00:00:33.820 --> 00:00:38.020 know, the studio guy, you know, he says Shatner 00:00:38.020 --> 00:00:43.020 is doing some ADR for the cartoon, the Star Trek 00:00:43.020 --> 00:00:47.259 cartoon. And he says. You know, he uses the word 00:00:47.259 --> 00:00:51.159 sabotage and he gets corrected by the by the 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:54.700 studio guys like, Bill, it's pronounced sabotage. 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:58.920 Please don't correct me. It disgusts me. It sickens 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:06.780 me. And you say sabotage. I say sabotage. I absolutely 00:01:06.780 --> 00:01:11.060 love William Shatner. My favorite ones are the 00:01:11.060 --> 00:01:14.939 or excuse me. Fuck. Why can't I remember his 00:01:14.939 --> 00:01:18.819 name? Rosebud. Orson Welles. Jesus Christ. Orson 00:01:18.819 --> 00:01:20.680 Welles. What happened? You started saying it. 00:01:20.780 --> 00:01:22.900 I know. What happened? My brain just said, nope, 00:01:22.980 --> 00:01:25.799 no access. When Orson Welles was doing the Gallo 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:27.620 wine commercials. Oh, yeah. Remember those days? 00:01:27.659 --> 00:01:30.299 Yeah, yeah. Orson Welles. Show no wine before 00:01:30.299 --> 00:01:35.480 it's time. I know. Everything was like an exhaustive 00:01:35.480 --> 00:01:37.959 sucking of air to come in to speak. But then 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:40.579 he was making fun of how shitty the wine was 00:01:40.579 --> 00:01:45.519 in between takes. Like he was angry. Yeah. There 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:47.739 is a CD that you can get. I can't remember what 00:01:47.739 --> 00:01:49.879 it's called, but I have them at home. And it's 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:52.359 like all these radio things like that where just 00:01:52.359 --> 00:01:55.859 when celebrities, you know, lose it while doing 00:01:55.859 --> 00:01:59.969 voiceover and ADR. hilarious. Orson Welles is 00:01:59.969 --> 00:02:02.430 a crazy story, right? Because when he made that 00:02:02.430 --> 00:02:05.049 movie, when he made Citizen Kane, which was about 00:02:05.049 --> 00:02:07.629 William Randolph Hearst, William Randolph Hearst 00:02:07.629 --> 00:02:10.650 essentially shut down one of the most talented 00:02:10.650 --> 00:02:13.409 guys alive at the time, shut down his career. 00:02:13.569 --> 00:02:15.969 Yeah, because the movie was kind of an insult 00:02:15.969 --> 00:02:18.150 about, you know, the whole thing about Rosebud 00:02:18.150 --> 00:02:21.050 is that's the name of his girlfriend's clitoris. 00:02:21.629 --> 00:02:24.289 Oh, that was his nickname for her clitoris. And 00:02:24.289 --> 00:02:29.370 so Orson Welles was doing a kind of very like 00:02:29.370 --> 00:02:34.330 like he was jabbing at him in a very low level 00:02:34.330 --> 00:02:37.270 way. Like, really? Yeah. Rosebud. How did he 00:02:37.270 --> 00:02:39.949 know that that was the nickname of his girlfriend's 00:02:39.949 --> 00:02:41.689 clitoris? People in Hollywood know these things. 00:02:41.830 --> 00:02:46.300 Word gets around. Word gets around. I would keep 00:02:46.300 --> 00:02:50.800 that one just to her. Yeah. Who told? Yeah. That's 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:53.240 crazy. But I mean, if you go back to like War 00:02:53.240 --> 00:02:56.120 of Worlds and then Citizen Kane, I mean, this 00:02:56.120 --> 00:02:58.400 guy was a dynamo. And then they shut him down. 00:02:58.620 --> 00:03:00.520 Well, yeah. And he was doing things that nobody 00:03:00.520 --> 00:03:02.800 else would do. It's like he's like, oh, I want 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:04.900 the camera down here, like on the phone. Well, 00:03:04.979 --> 00:03:07.740 we can't get the camera lens down that low. Like 00:03:07.740 --> 00:03:09.539 what you're talking about is impossible to do. 00:03:09.639 --> 00:03:13.000 And so he would just. grab like a pickaxe and 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:15.099 just start chopping away at the studio concrete 00:03:15.099 --> 00:03:17.460 and dig a hole in the ground so you can put the 00:03:17.460 --> 00:03:20.039 camera down that low. Oh, really? Yeah, he was 00:03:20.039 --> 00:03:24.620 obsessed with getting a vision on screen that 00:03:24.620 --> 00:03:28.539 was, even today, is so advanced. There's a shot 00:03:28.539 --> 00:03:32.340 in the very beginning when... Young Kane is like 00:03:32.340 --> 00:03:33.639 a little kid, and he's out there playing with 00:03:33.639 --> 00:03:35.879 Rosebud. He's out there playing with the sled 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:39.219 in the snow, and the camera is on him, and then 00:03:39.219 --> 00:03:41.000 it kind of starts pulling back, and it pulls 00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:43.599 through a window, and then we see his parents 00:03:43.599 --> 00:03:47.360 and the trust attorney, and the camera keeps 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:49.919 backing up all the way into the room. Well, to 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:52.400 do that in a studio and to have all that snow 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:54.180 and everything, you need so much light, but you 00:03:54.180 --> 00:03:57.560 also need a lot of light inside because of the 00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:01.620 exposure change. It's like an amazing, incredible 00:04:01.620 --> 00:04:05.759 dolly shot, a reverse tracking shot. It's fantastic. 00:04:06.219 --> 00:04:11.379 And what year did he do this, too? I don't know 00:04:11.379 --> 00:04:14.199 the exact year. Citizen Kane has to be 40s, right? 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:18.959 Yeah, yeah, probably. It's in the late 40s, I 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:22.060 would think. Is that when it was, Jamie? Yeah. 00:04:22.300 --> 00:04:29.459 Tell us the... 41. Early 40s. Wow. Yeah. Wow, 00:04:29.500 --> 00:04:31.279 let me see that shot. Wartime. Can we find that? 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:33.360 Wartime. It's a Wartime film. What, Jamie? I 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:35.220 was looking for it. I was lost in some other 00:04:35.220 --> 00:04:38.180 ones. Wartime, 40s, right. Yeah, right. It's 00:04:38.180 --> 00:04:40.540 a Wartime movie. Yeah, yeah. I didn't even think 00:04:40.540 --> 00:04:43.420 of that. Yeah. Oh, my God. A lot of stuff going 00:04:43.420 --> 00:04:45.339 on back then. Probably hard to get people to 00:04:45.339 --> 00:04:47.879 go to the movies back then. No, it would be easy 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:50.160 to go to the movies. In fact, Wartime and Depression 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:53.879 and When Things Are Bad, that's usually the best 00:04:53.879 --> 00:04:55.819 time for entertainment because people just want 00:04:55.819 --> 00:04:58.769 to escape. Well, that actually makes sense. Be 00:04:58.769 --> 00:05:02.569 careful, Charles. Pull your muffler around your 00:05:02.569 --> 00:05:04.889 neck, Charles. I think we shall have to tell 00:05:04.889 --> 00:05:09.170 him now. Yes. I'll sign those papers now, Mr. 00:05:09.250 --> 00:05:11.829 Thatcher. You people seem to forget that I'm 00:05:11.829 --> 00:05:13.850 the boy's father. It's going to be done exactly 00:05:13.850 --> 00:05:16.209 the way I've told Mr. Thatcher. There ain't nothing 00:05:16.209 --> 00:05:18.730 wrong with Colorado. I don't see why we can't 00:05:18.730 --> 00:05:20.850 raise our own son just because we come into some 00:05:20.850 --> 00:05:23.889 money. If I want, I can go to court. A father 00:05:23.889 --> 00:05:41.230 has a right to. So in order to maintain that 00:05:41.230 --> 00:05:43.110 background exposure of the little kid in the 00:05:43.110 --> 00:05:46.310 window and the foreground, what you're not knowing 00:05:46.310 --> 00:05:49.329 is how much light they're using on the interior 00:05:49.329 --> 00:05:51.350 part in order to create that balance between 00:05:51.350 --> 00:05:54.910 the two with the film stocks back then. And the 00:05:54.910 --> 00:05:57.290 other thing is that table gets flown in. Like, 00:05:57.290 --> 00:05:59.629 they move that table into the shot because it's 00:05:59.629 --> 00:06:01.769 in the way of the camera move. Wow. And so there's 00:06:01.769 --> 00:06:04.170 all sorts of, like, you know, mathematics going 00:06:04.170 --> 00:06:07.009 on in the creation of this shot. And most people 00:06:07.009 --> 00:06:08.850 would just, you know, be like, oh, just, you 00:06:08.850 --> 00:06:10.509 know, shoot the kid outside and then cut inside. 00:06:10.750 --> 00:06:13.050 You know, just do it like that. But, you know, 00:06:13.089 --> 00:06:15.509 Wells was, I mean, he was thinking on a complete 00:06:15.509 --> 00:06:18.050 other level. It's just, we've robbed, we got 00:06:18.050 --> 00:06:20.329 robbed of so many films. If you really think 00:06:20.329 --> 00:06:22.310 about it, what he could have made. You know. 00:06:23.180 --> 00:06:25.459 Yes and no. My favorite film of his is Touch 00:06:25.459 --> 00:06:28.639 of Evil. And there's this amazing shot with Charlton 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:30.939 Heston where he's playing a Mexican and he's 00:06:30.939 --> 00:06:35.560 got like this like pencil thin mustache. And 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:38.339 like Chuck Heston as a Mexican is fantastic. 00:06:38.439 --> 00:06:41.019 And then everybody's so sweaty in the movie and 00:06:41.019 --> 00:06:42.759 it takes place in Mexico, but it's shot in Venice, 00:06:42.939 --> 00:06:45.939 California. And so the whole opening, which is 00:06:45.939 --> 00:06:48.639 this. setting of a bomb in the trunk of a car. 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:51.139 And then, yeah, here's the opening shot. And 00:06:51.139 --> 00:06:53.079 you can tell that it's actually downtown Venice. 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:56.319 And this is supposed to be Mexico? Yeah, this 00:06:56.319 --> 00:06:58.240 is supposed to be like a border town in Mexico. 00:06:59.060 --> 00:07:01.980 I don't know if it's Tijuana or some other border 00:07:01.980 --> 00:07:07.300 town. But he does this amazing, amazing single 00:07:07.300 --> 00:07:11.579 shot. Wow. Which back then, this is really hard 00:07:11.579 --> 00:07:14.560 to do. And this is kind of a... I mean, it's 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:18.680 Charlton Heston essentially saying, I believe 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:21.500 in Orson Welles and his vision. This is crazy. 00:07:21.500 --> 00:07:23.740 See, that's downtown Venice. The beach is just 00:07:23.740 --> 00:07:28.060 beyond that. Oh, wow. God, what year is this? 00:07:28.060 --> 00:07:29.480 Actually, I'm sorry. The beach might be behind 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:33.860 us. What year was this? 1958? Yeah, 1958. Wow. 00:07:36.540 --> 00:07:40.360 It's an incredible shot. And this is incredibly 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:42.300 difficult to do as well because you've got a 00:07:42.300 --> 00:07:43.939 crane on a car. And now you're following the 00:07:43.939 --> 00:07:45.459 people. Now you're following the people. And 00:07:45.459 --> 00:07:48.819 there's Charlton Heston with his mustache. And 00:07:48.819 --> 00:07:50.899 we know as an audience that there's a bomb in 00:07:50.899 --> 00:07:57.100 that car. But he doesn't know. Wow. And so he's 00:07:57.100 --> 00:08:00.509 still, you know, the. Just the fact that this 00:08:00.509 --> 00:08:03.410 is all one shot is crazy. And for back then, 00:08:03.470 --> 00:08:05.610 I mean, it's a big deal. Back then, the camera 00:08:05.610 --> 00:08:08.170 that you're using isn't just some little handy 00:08:08.170 --> 00:08:10.550 cam or something like that now, you know, an 00:08:10.550 --> 00:08:14.250 iPhone. It's a Mitchell BNCR, which is, you know, 00:08:14.269 --> 00:08:15.850 it takes four guys to move that camera. It's 00:08:15.850 --> 00:08:18.430 made out of cast iron. You know, it's a giant 00:08:18.430 --> 00:08:23.629 camera with a blimp. A blimp? A blimp is a soundproofing 00:08:23.629 --> 00:08:25.430 device. So you have the camera and then you've 00:08:25.430 --> 00:08:28.389 got to build a giant encasing for the camera. 00:08:28.470 --> 00:08:30.610 Because it makes so much noise? You don't want 00:08:30.610 --> 00:08:34.110 to hear that. What did that look like? I have 00:08:34.110 --> 00:08:40.269 one in my home. Of course you do. That shot's 00:08:40.269 --> 00:08:42.370 incredible. I would have never – I didn't know 00:08:42.370 --> 00:08:44.750 that film existed. I bought mine from this commercial 00:08:44.750 --> 00:08:46.870 director named Charles Wittenmeyer and he had 00:08:46.870 --> 00:08:50.009 a massive collection of stuff and then he liquidated 00:08:50.009 --> 00:08:52.049 everything. He just kind of cashed out of Los 00:08:52.049 --> 00:08:54.429 Angeles and he had a warehouse full of stuff. 00:08:54.549 --> 00:08:57.230 And so I went in and he's like, you know, well, 00:08:57.330 --> 00:08:58.710 here's – you can get this and you can get this. 00:08:58.730 --> 00:09:00.730 I was like, OK, the Mitchell BNCR. And we went 00:09:00.730 --> 00:09:03.330 over to it and he's like, you know, this Mitchell 00:09:03.330 --> 00:09:08.480 BNCR was used to shoot The Godfather. So that's 00:09:08.480 --> 00:09:10.059 what it looks like with the big lid on it? Yeah, 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:12.500 that's actually, yeah, that's basically the camera. 00:09:12.659 --> 00:09:15.740 That's the camera. Is that the blimp is the thing 00:09:15.740 --> 00:09:18.159 on top of it? Yeah, the blimp is, well, the whole 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:20.440 thing is actually, the whole thing is a blimp. 00:09:20.500 --> 00:09:23.899 I mean, well, there's a smaller area with a blimp 00:09:23.899 --> 00:09:27.240 on it. The big one, like the whole thing is a 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:29.000 blimp, and you can actually open up all of these. 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:32.639 these trap doors on it to reveal the camera inside 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:35.419 of it. And then the reels that are in, there 00:09:35.419 --> 00:09:39.980 you go. There's an opened up one. Wow. It looks 00:09:39.980 --> 00:09:41.679 like it's holding an Aerie on the inside, an 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:44.179 Aerie 100. One of the things about old movies 00:09:44.179 --> 00:09:47.500 is they would let a scene cook. You know, you 00:09:47.500 --> 00:09:50.919 had so much time before people would talk and 00:09:50.919 --> 00:09:54.879 you just let like the average daily life sort 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:58.700 of play out. Yeah. And it set the tone for the 00:09:58.700 --> 00:10:01.879 film and they don't. Now it's like it's like 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:04.059 built for Netflix. Yeah. Well, now you have a 00:10:04.059 --> 00:10:06.120 white paper that Netflix gives you. And that 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:08.860 I think was it Ben Affleck that was talking about 00:10:08.860 --> 00:10:11.240 it? You know how you've got to have a beat in 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:12.600 the beginning and you've got to have this and 00:10:12.600 --> 00:10:16.200 this and this and regular things. I mean, there 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:18.279 was this book by Sid Field, which was a screenwriting 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:22.320 book that. You know, at one hand, it gave a kind 00:10:22.320 --> 00:10:24.440 of formula on what a movie should be. You know, 00:10:24.480 --> 00:10:26.899 by page seven, your inciting event should happen. 00:10:26.940 --> 00:10:29.720 And by page 30, the first day, you know, he had 00:10:29.720 --> 00:10:31.679 everything mapped out by page. And that eventually 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:34.120 found its way into the hands of studio executives. 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:37.019 And they were like, oh, now we know what a screenplay 00:10:37.019 --> 00:10:38.860 is supposed to be structured like, you know, 00:10:38.860 --> 00:10:41.799 in order to have proper story arcs and structures 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:47.750 and a satisfying design. And and that's just 00:10:47.750 --> 00:10:50.230 the next iteration is Netflix giving you a white 00:10:50.230 --> 00:10:51.990 paper saying you have to shoot with these cameras. 00:10:52.029 --> 00:10:56.029 You have to process at these labs. You have to 00:10:56.029 --> 00:10:58.909 have, you know, tech specs that are within this 00:10:58.909 --> 00:11:02.149 range. And that's now extending to story because 00:11:02.149 --> 00:11:04.610 they've analytically looked at what audiences 00:11:04.610 --> 00:11:07.909 are, you know, able to process now, which is 00:11:07.909 --> 00:11:10.169 less and less probably because of the covid shot. 00:11:11.529 --> 00:11:14.809 completely frying their pineal glands so they 00:11:14.809 --> 00:11:17.710 can no longer pay attention to anything. And 00:11:17.710 --> 00:11:21.509 then on top of that, the mind -controlled device 00:11:21.509 --> 00:11:26.610 of cell phones. And, you know, with all of that, 00:11:26.710 --> 00:11:28.690 they're now like, well, how do we maintain the 00:11:28.690 --> 00:11:31.529 audience? And so you end up with white papers. 00:11:31.590 --> 00:11:33.549 Don't you think it's options too? It's almost 00:11:33.549 --> 00:11:36.230 like if something is not really fascinating within 00:11:36.230 --> 00:11:38.789 the first 20, 30 seconds, people just want to... 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:41.120 Let's see what else is on. They just want to 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:43.200 keep searching. Well, there is that. I mean, 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:45.220 there's something magical about being in a movie 00:11:45.220 --> 00:11:51.360 theater. You know, you're in this congregation. 00:11:52.190 --> 00:11:54.710 You know, Quentin always talks about how, you 00:11:54.710 --> 00:11:57.570 know, movies are my church. Well, it is a congregation 00:11:57.570 --> 00:12:00.350 and you're having you're sitting in the dark 00:12:00.350 --> 00:12:03.169 next to someone you don't even know. They might 00:12:03.169 --> 00:12:06.950 have completely different ideologies, race, creed, 00:12:06.950 --> 00:12:09.529 color, like everything is different about them. 00:12:09.629 --> 00:12:12.029 And yet you're sitting in the dark next to them 00:12:12.029 --> 00:12:15.389 having this ecstatic dream, this waking dream, 00:12:15.649 --> 00:12:17.889 sitting like insects looking at the flicker on 00:12:17.889 --> 00:12:20.889 the screen. And you're sharing this kind of experience 00:12:20.889 --> 00:12:23.549 that you're. physically trapped in. You don't 00:12:23.549 --> 00:12:26.990 get up and leave the theater. Well, you might 00:12:26.990 --> 00:12:29.039 if you have to go to the bathroom. get some popcorn 00:12:29.039 --> 00:12:30.620 or something, but they'll even bring that to 00:12:30.620 --> 00:12:34.460 you now. You're having this kind of ecstatic 00:12:34.460 --> 00:12:37.120 experience absorbing the movie with someone you 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:39.259 don't know, and you're sharing your bodily electricity 00:12:39.259 --> 00:12:43.039 with them. And I think this kind of, this is 00:12:43.039 --> 00:12:45.620 the magic that they often talk about of movies. 00:12:45.679 --> 00:12:49.799 It's not necessarily the movie itself on screen. 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:53.360 It's the shared experience of being next to people. 00:12:53.740 --> 00:12:59.309 And that, there is a kind of, unseen electricity 00:12:59.309 --> 00:13:03.529 between people that unifies us. And I think that 00:13:03.529 --> 00:13:05.750 there are dark forces in the universe that are 00:13:05.750 --> 00:13:08.809 attempting to divide people up and to take that 00:13:08.809 --> 00:13:11.950 away, to take away that congregation. Do you 00:13:11.950 --> 00:13:14.149 really think that that's by design, or do you 00:13:14.149 --> 00:13:16.210 think that's just a natural function of streaming 00:13:16.210 --> 00:13:19.429 and televisions and phones and having access 00:13:19.429 --> 00:13:22.129 to things instantaneously? I personally think 00:13:22.129 --> 00:13:25.210 that streaming was by design to eliminate residuals. 00:13:25.920 --> 00:13:28.419 By design? But isn't it just a function of technology 00:13:28.419 --> 00:13:30.679 emerging? You notice that all of the executives, 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:33.100 well, yeah, I mean, part of it is technology, 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:34.980 but technology gets pushed and brought to the 00:13:34.980 --> 00:13:37.879 forefront for specific reasons. And, you know, 00:13:37.940 --> 00:13:41.600 digital cinema hasn't been the greatest thing 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:43.980 for the creative process. And I think we see 00:13:43.980 --> 00:13:46.059 that in the works that we're looking at. I mean, 00:13:46.059 --> 00:13:51.250 if you watch stuff on Netflix and... We can see 00:13:51.250 --> 00:13:55.450 that it doesn't have the same power and impact. 00:13:55.769 --> 00:13:58.850 And also, you know, when you were making a movie, 00:13:58.970 --> 00:14:03.809 when you were making a film on film, it was like 00:14:03.809 --> 00:14:06.850 every time you turn on the camera, you're burning 00:14:06.850 --> 00:14:09.750 money. It's like every single frame is like four 00:14:09.750 --> 00:14:12.470 cents or whatever, whatever the calculation was. 00:14:12.669 --> 00:14:16.159 And so. That was actually an expensive part of 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:18.399 the process. And so, you know, there was all 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:20.379 this preparation to get everything ready. Like, 00:14:20.379 --> 00:14:23.039 oh, we want to get all of the props in place, 00:14:23.059 --> 00:14:25.320 you know, right before we shoot. And the actors 00:14:25.320 --> 00:14:27.620 are in their trailer and they're figuring out 00:14:27.620 --> 00:14:29.899 what they're going to do. And then you're on 00:14:29.899 --> 00:14:31.519 your way to set and people are like, hey, I'll 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:33.759 see you in the moment. And what they mean by 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:37.759 that is when the cameras turn on and you actually 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:40.500 hear that happening. suddenly everything pops 00:14:40.500 --> 00:14:43.980 into play. And suddenly you're performing in 00:14:43.980 --> 00:14:47.919 front of, you know, what you're attempting to 00:14:47.919 --> 00:14:50.299 do is capture lightning in a bottle. And you 00:14:50.299 --> 00:14:52.179 don't even know that you have it right away. 00:14:52.240 --> 00:14:54.139 You ask your DP, like, do we have it? And it's 00:14:54.139 --> 00:14:56.480 like, oh, well, there's some dust in the frame 00:14:56.480 --> 00:14:58.899 or a hair in the frame. Let's get another one. 00:14:59.139 --> 00:15:02.519 You get another one. And, like, then you hold 00:15:02.519 --> 00:15:04.220 that all in the dark, all that film, because 00:15:04.220 --> 00:15:05.879 you can't expose it, and you send it off to the 00:15:05.879 --> 00:15:09.220 lab. And then some... alchemist at the lab at 00:15:09.220 --> 00:15:11.740 the castle you know puts it into a potion and 00:15:11.740 --> 00:15:14.419 he and the next day what comes out are these 00:15:14.419 --> 00:15:16.419 like little stained glass windows and you watch 00:15:16.419 --> 00:15:18.279 it and you realize what you caught you're like 00:15:18.279 --> 00:15:22.429 we did it we we captured something okay now everything 00:15:22.429 --> 00:15:26.570 is different you uh you know you show up on set 00:15:26.570 --> 00:15:29.269 and everything's digital and you've got producers 00:15:29.269 --> 00:15:34.789 and network executives and broadcasters and everybody's 00:15:34.789 --> 00:15:38.590 there studio people in video village and they 00:15:38.590 --> 00:15:40.289 set up like a little tent and everybody's sitting 00:15:40.289 --> 00:15:44.379 there in their Canadian goose jackets on high 00:15:44.379 --> 00:15:46.340 chairs, and they're looking at a big color -corrected 00:15:46.340 --> 00:15:48.179 monitor, and there's a guy doing color correction 00:15:48.179 --> 00:15:51.600 in a van. And they're basically watching an approximation 00:15:51.600 --> 00:15:54.220 of what it's going to look like in the end. And 00:15:54.220 --> 00:15:55.879 they're sitting there. Okay, on my first film, 00:15:55.960 --> 00:15:58.159 there was none of that. I had to stand next to 00:15:58.159 --> 00:16:00.299 the camera. We didn't even have video tap. Stand 00:16:00.299 --> 00:16:02.460 next to the camera and look at the actors and 00:16:02.460 --> 00:16:04.159 see, did the actors do what I wanted them to 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:08.590 do? And now... You know, they just turn on the 00:16:08.590 --> 00:16:11.330 camera and it's it costs more money to stop the 00:16:11.330 --> 00:16:13.549 camera and to restart it again. So you just let 00:16:13.549 --> 00:16:16.889 it roll and you're just like letting it go. And 00:16:16.889 --> 00:16:18.870 you're like, hey, the director now is like, hey, 00:16:18.970 --> 00:16:22.850 go back, start over and smile this time. And 00:16:22.850 --> 00:16:25.289 then they redo it. And then the editor is now 00:16:25.289 --> 00:16:27.149 like having to take those takes and separate 00:16:27.149 --> 00:16:30.950 them in the in the editing room. And the actors 00:16:30.950 --> 00:16:33.940 are like suddenly the moment is gone. In other 00:16:33.940 --> 00:16:37.320 words, it's vanished. Is there a way to do both? 00:16:37.419 --> 00:16:40.279 I mean, is it the medium of film? I mean, it 00:16:40.279 --> 00:16:43.480 seems like it's the environment as well. You're 00:16:43.480 --> 00:16:45.779 describing an environmental thing, right? Video 00:16:45.779 --> 00:16:48.919 village, the executives. The problem is now suddenly 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:51.360 you've got a chorus of people sitting there who 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:52.899 are like, oh, yeah, you got it. I saw he got 00:16:52.899 --> 00:16:54.600 it. Didn't he get it? You got it. But you as 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:56.059 the director still have to run back and forth 00:16:56.059 --> 00:16:57.779 to the camera and to the actors and everything. 00:16:57.820 --> 00:17:00.659 And you're like trying to keep it all in place. 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:05.319 And look, it's. Neither is worse than the other. 00:17:05.480 --> 00:17:09.180 Right. They are both paint. But one is watercolor 00:17:09.180 --> 00:17:12.859 and one is oil paint. And those are opposingly 00:17:12.859 --> 00:17:17.319 different. You know, if you were an oil artist 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:21.440 during the British Renaissance of watercolor 00:17:21.440 --> 00:17:23.700 paint, where all of a sudden watercolor came 00:17:23.700 --> 00:17:26.339 on, everybody wanted watercolor. Why would you 00:17:26.339 --> 00:17:31.240 try to make your watercolor paint look like oil 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:33.589 or vice versa? They're just completely different 00:17:33.589 --> 00:17:36.269 mediums. They're both paint, but they're different. 00:17:36.450 --> 00:17:40.069 And so digital has its advantages and its purposes. 00:17:40.190 --> 00:17:47.589 Because you can run a long mag of video. I call 00:17:47.589 --> 00:17:49.190 it video. Everybody calls it digital cinema, 00:17:49.269 --> 00:17:53.910 but that was just to push it through. And actually, 00:17:54.029 --> 00:17:57.710 the technology is different. With film, light 00:17:57.710 --> 00:18:01.009 travels through the glass. It travels through 00:18:01.009 --> 00:18:04.420 a gate. It exposes the silver and the acetate, 00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:08.759 and you keep it all in the dark and send it away. 00:18:09.079 --> 00:18:12.039 With video, the light travels through the glass. 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:15.599 It strikes the golden sensor, and then it bounces 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:18.619 back into the glass. And that's why video or 00:18:18.619 --> 00:18:22.220 digital cinema is flatter by nature than most 00:18:22.220 --> 00:18:27.259 film. And so to combat this, filmmakers have 00:18:27.259 --> 00:18:29.839 started to do the exact opposite. of what we 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:32.079 used to do. It used to be that you would go to 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:35.240 shoot something, you're outside, you're on set, 00:18:35.420 --> 00:18:37.539 I've got my camera on Joe and I have the sun 00:18:37.539 --> 00:18:39.460 behind me because I want all that light on you, 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:43.000 for the most part. I'm over -exaggerating my 00:18:43.000 --> 00:18:46.920 point. And the analogy or the saying would be 00:18:46.920 --> 00:18:48.279 that at the end of the day, you go home and the 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:50.660 back of your neck is sunburned because you've 00:18:50.660 --> 00:18:53.140 always had the light behind you. 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And it's because they 00:20:26.039 --> 00:20:29.170 were shooting them on. video instead of on film 00:20:29.170 --> 00:20:32.230 like when we were filming news radio the sitcom 00:20:32.230 --> 00:20:35.250 we were doing it on film and they were like really 00:20:35.250 --> 00:20:37.410 adamant about doing it on film like they really 00:20:37.410 --> 00:20:39.529 wanted it to be on film and then there was some 00:20:39.529 --> 00:20:41.910 process where you could make video look like 00:20:41.910 --> 00:20:44.269 film and i was like this is so interesting it's 00:20:44.269 --> 00:20:46.869 like we're designed like when you take your photo 00:20:46.869 --> 00:20:49.069 with your camera on your phone and you use portrait 00:20:49.069 --> 00:20:51.569 mode yeah which is you blur out the background 00:20:51.569 --> 00:20:53.369 so you're making it shittier you're doing an 00:20:53.369 --> 00:20:56.470 artificial yeah that's because uh we associate 00:21:00.499 --> 00:21:06.099 the faults of media as film. People think of 00:21:06.099 --> 00:21:10.799 old movies as gateweave and sepia tone and dust 00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:14.660 and scratches, kind of fast motion. Well, when 00:21:14.660 --> 00:21:16.319 those movies were originally made, the motion 00:21:16.319 --> 00:21:18.180 was corrected by the cranking of the projector. 00:21:18.519 --> 00:21:23.680 And so it was natural motion. There was no sepia 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:27.559 tone change. There was no dust. And there was 00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:31.230 no gate weave because it was a fixed image. The 00:21:31.230 --> 00:21:33.289 image, the celluloid hadn't yet shrunk or anything 00:21:33.289 --> 00:21:37.690 like that. And so we now we have this kind of 00:21:37.690 --> 00:21:41.150 filter, nostalgic filter that we associate with 00:21:41.150 --> 00:21:42.750 what an old movie looks like. And so if you want 00:21:42.750 --> 00:21:44.470 to make something look old, you start adding 00:21:44.470 --> 00:21:46.369 all this crap to it. You're adding the faults 00:21:46.369 --> 00:21:48.829 and it's the faults of cinema that actually make 00:21:48.829 --> 00:21:50.650 it really good. It's not the perfection of cinema. 00:21:51.069 --> 00:21:53.289 That's in my opinion, because you would never 00:21:53.289 --> 00:21:55.789 be able to sell that if that cinema never existed. 00:21:56.519 --> 00:21:58.740 Like if cinema never existed and video came around 00:21:58.740 --> 00:22:01.240 and then it was normal video, like soap opera 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:03.460 style, and then someone came along and said, 00:22:03.579 --> 00:22:05.480 hey, let's make it blurry in the background. 00:22:06.380 --> 00:22:09.299 It's almost like we've become accustomed to the 00:22:09.299 --> 00:22:12.220 faults and nostalgically we look at them as if 00:22:12.220 --> 00:22:15.880 it's a positive. And it's also led by, you know, 00:22:15.900 --> 00:22:18.400 everything is shot on iPhones now. And so that's 00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:20.880 becoming the cinematic vernacular, the grammar 00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:23.819 that people are used to. And they now expect 00:22:23.819 --> 00:22:27.299 that in a big movie. So suddenly you see something 00:22:27.299 --> 00:22:31.920 like the latest James Gunn's Superman or Guillermo 00:22:31.920 --> 00:22:34.839 del Toro's Frankenstein. And they've got these 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:37.559 crazy wide lenses where there's no distortion 00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:41.480 and, you know, kind of infinite depth. And they're 00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:44.339 shot in a very large format. But what they're 00:22:44.339 --> 00:22:47.519 replicating is an iPhone. Right. And it just 00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:51.180 I watched both of those movies and I thought, 00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:55.519 OK, both of them are amazingly technically. And 00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:59.700 they're made by highly professional people, but 00:22:59.700 --> 00:23:03.920 it looks like iPhone. I'm a huge Guillermo del 00:23:03.920 --> 00:23:07.079 Toro fan. I even loved his book, The Strain. 00:23:07.299 --> 00:23:10.740 It was really good until about three quarters 00:23:10.740 --> 00:23:12.660 of the way through. And it seemed like he just 00:23:12.660 --> 00:23:14.799 wanted to finish the book. Yeah, probably. Like 00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:17.180 a bunch of shit just sort of just happens in 00:23:17.180 --> 00:23:19.180 the last quarter of the book. This is kind of 00:23:19.180 --> 00:23:22.779 jarring. It became dinner time. Put this aside. 00:23:23.299 --> 00:23:24.920 I'm going to go eat. It just seemed like, fuck, 00:23:24.980 --> 00:23:27.220 I can't keep going with this book. It's what 00:23:27.220 --> 00:23:30.460 it felt like. It felt rushed, just my opinion. 00:23:30.579 --> 00:23:32.410 But I'm a huge fan of that guy. I love Pan's 00:23:32.410 --> 00:23:35.349 Labyrinth. I love a lot of his films, but I didn't 00:23:35.349 --> 00:23:41.710 like Frankenstein. I, you know, like I love Guillermo 00:23:41.710 --> 00:23:45.390 and I love his spirit and I love his artistry. 00:23:45.390 --> 00:23:50.200 He is an amazing artist. He is. He's a. Just 00:23:50.200 --> 00:23:53.660 literally, as an artist, his sketchbooks are 00:23:53.660 --> 00:23:56.220 beautiful. And he brings a great amount of passion 00:23:56.220 --> 00:24:00.599 to his work. He brings that kind of Mexican passion 00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:05.859 to his work. And I adore him as a person. But 00:24:05.859 --> 00:24:08.059 to be perfectly honest, I'm not wild about his 00:24:08.059 --> 00:24:11.859 movies that much. You didn't like Pan's Labyrinth? 00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:16.539 I liked parts of it. But as a whole, it just 00:24:16.539 --> 00:24:20.049 kind of... And I don't know what it is about 00:24:20.049 --> 00:24:24.769 it, but Blade II is probably my favorite film 00:24:24.769 --> 00:24:28.410 of his because it's like the least of – well, 00:24:28.470 --> 00:24:31.809 actually it's quite a bit of him, but it's just 00:24:31.809 --> 00:24:33.930 the most accessible for me. I didn't know he 00:24:33.930 --> 00:24:36.990 did Blade II. Which one that Patton Oswalt was 00:24:36.990 --> 00:24:40.490 in where he had the whole bit about Wesley Snipes 00:24:40.490 --> 00:24:42.670 and then they replaced him with a cooler Wesley 00:24:42.670 --> 00:24:46.440 Snipes? I think that was – Three. Yeah, it was 00:24:46.440 --> 00:24:48.279 probably Blade 3. Blade 3. I don't remember Blade 00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:51.099 2. I don't remember Blade 2. Blade 1 was awesome, 00:24:51.140 --> 00:24:54.299 though. Yeah. That's my favorite of all the comic 00:24:54.299 --> 00:24:56.920 book vampire, well, comic book movies. Yeah. 00:24:57.000 --> 00:24:59.339 Because I was just a giant fan of the Blade comic 00:24:59.339 --> 00:25:01.960 book series. I also like his Pacific Rim movie, 00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:05.279 and I like parts of, like, the moment in Frankenstein 00:25:05.279 --> 00:25:08.160 that I think is, for me, the entire movie. Like, 00:25:08.160 --> 00:25:10.039 I could have, like, left the rest of it. So much 00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:15.920 of it was just so melancholic and... You know, 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:18.119 it was just like I just couldn't engage with 00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:22.319 it. And but the part that I absolutely loved 00:25:22.319 --> 00:25:25.059 was at the Miller's house where he's learning 00:25:25.059 --> 00:25:29.500 language. To me, that was the movie when he's 00:25:29.500 --> 00:25:31.960 kind of secretly learning how to speak and how 00:25:31.960 --> 00:25:36.839 to be and learning morals. And to me, I could 00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:39.519 have watched an entire movie about that sequence. 00:25:39.599 --> 00:25:41.740 And it was also beautifully made, that part. 00:25:42.580 --> 00:25:46.759 I just the rest of it with I could have done 00:25:46.759 --> 00:25:49.059 without. It was just a little flat. And also, 00:25:49.140 --> 00:25:51.720 it's like, why does it have it's so freaking 00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:55.680 long. Like, he could really, like, learn a lesson. 00:25:55.799 --> 00:25:58.000 I was going to say he could learn a lesson from 00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:00.099 Ridley Scott, who just clips through things like 00:26:00.099 --> 00:26:02.119 he takes, you know, there's a dialogue scene. 00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:04.039 I'm just going to do the essentials and just 00:26:04.039 --> 00:26:06.180 get out like it's a commercial. This dialogue 00:26:06.180 --> 00:26:08.259 scene doesn't need to be any longer than 30 seconds. 00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:12.200 And he just clips along. Somehow yet his movies 00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:14.380 are still like two hours long. Well, they're 00:26:14.380 --> 00:26:18.019 so involved. You know what I really loved? Nosferatu. 00:26:18.299 --> 00:26:20.160 Did you see the new Nosferatu? No, I haven't. 00:26:20.160 --> 00:26:25.779 I don't want to sound like a persnickety guy, 00:26:25.859 --> 00:26:27.039 but I had to be in the right - I want you to 00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:28.940 be persnickety. I had to be in the right mood 00:26:28.940 --> 00:26:32.460 to engage with that movie because I like that 00:26:32.460 --> 00:26:35.180 guy's first movie, The Vivitch or The Witch. 00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:38.599 I never saw that. I heard it's great though. 00:26:38.890 --> 00:26:40.769 I love that film. I think that's a great movie. 00:26:40.849 --> 00:26:42.109 And he's like a production designer. He's doing 00:26:42.109 --> 00:26:43.890 a werewolf movie right now. Yeah, of course he 00:26:43.890 --> 00:26:46.549 is. Of course he is. I love a good werewolf movie. 00:26:46.549 --> 00:26:49.769 I did not like his Moby Dickish Lighthouse movie. 00:26:50.390 --> 00:26:52.730 Oh, I didn't see that. That was the Willem Dafoe 00:26:52.730 --> 00:26:53.730 and Robert Pattinson. Yeah, the Willem Dafoe 00:26:53.730 --> 00:26:58.690 one. It was just garish and kind of I felt like 00:26:58.690 --> 00:27:06.210 lost its way halfway through. And then this latest 00:27:06.210 --> 00:27:11.539 one, Nosferatu. Look, I am a Werner Herzog nut, 00:27:11.700 --> 00:27:16.019 and so I adore Werner Herzog, and I love his 00:27:16.019 --> 00:27:22.119 Nosferatu. So for me to watch this guy's version 00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:25.720 of that, I have to be in the right mood. I have 00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:27.380 to be in the right mood. I just wasn't yet in 00:27:27.380 --> 00:27:29.160 the right mood to accept it. Which one is Werner's? 00:27:29.180 --> 00:27:33.779 Who plays Nosferatu? Oh, Klaus. Incomparable, 00:27:33.920 --> 00:27:36.960 Klaus Kinski. I know I've seen it. The thing 00:27:36.960 --> 00:27:39.839 about Werner Herzog, when he made his Nosferatu, 00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:44.880 the Murnau movie, which is the original Nosferatu, 00:27:44.900 --> 00:27:48.940 the very first one with Max Schreck. I saw it 00:27:48.940 --> 00:27:52.279 at the library when I was 10 years old. So the 00:27:52.279 --> 00:27:55.480 thing about Werner Herzog as a filmmaker is that... 00:27:55.630 --> 00:27:57.730 Most filmmakers have their forefathers that they 00:27:57.730 --> 00:28:00.890 can look back to. They have a generation before 00:28:00.890 --> 00:28:03.470 them that they can kind of imprint on. And because 00:28:03.470 --> 00:28:09.809 of the brutality and tragedy of World War II, 00:28:10.509 --> 00:28:12.589 he had none. There were no German filmmakers 00:28:12.589 --> 00:28:14.509 that he could look to. And so he had to look 00:28:14.509 --> 00:28:17.069 to his grandfather, basically, which is Murnau, 00:28:17.230 --> 00:28:19.369 when he made it. And so his film is almost like 00:28:19.369 --> 00:28:23.250 haunted by the original. And then he brings, 00:28:23.450 --> 00:28:26.269 you know, Werner Herzog grew up, Not using a 00:28:26.269 --> 00:28:28.109 telephone until he was in his teens. He'd never 00:28:28.109 --> 00:28:31.029 seen a telephone before. He had grown up like 00:28:31.029 --> 00:28:33.930 in, you know, upper Bavaria in the mountains. 00:28:34.509 --> 00:28:37.869 And, you know, so he comes like his film is almost 00:28:37.869 --> 00:28:40.809 displaced in time. It's like skipped a generation. 00:28:41.269 --> 00:28:44.750 And he does things like, you know, he'll show 00:28:44.750 --> 00:28:47.170 two actors in the most emotional part of the 00:28:47.170 --> 00:28:51.309 movie when Mina and Jonathan Harker are, you 00:28:51.309 --> 00:28:52.609 know, at the beach and they're basically saying 00:28:52.609 --> 00:28:55.970 goodbye. Normally, in a Hollywood film, they 00:28:55.970 --> 00:28:57.849 would cut to a close -up so that we could see 00:28:57.849 --> 00:29:00.890 the tears. We would cut to that close -up. But 00:29:00.890 --> 00:29:06.230 because his film is displaced in time, he stays 00:29:06.230 --> 00:29:08.730 back. He doesn't even bother shooting a close 00:29:08.730 --> 00:29:11.430 -up. To him, it's more melancholic to show them 00:29:11.430 --> 00:29:17.089 just isolated as figures in a wide shot. And 00:29:17.089 --> 00:29:20.710 it truly is. And so his film is super powerful 00:29:20.710 --> 00:29:23.329 that way. And then you have Klaus Kinski. You 00:29:23.329 --> 00:29:27.250 know, who is, you know, like the madman actor 00:29:27.250 --> 00:29:32.690 of of German cinema and who is, you know, who 00:29:32.690 --> 00:29:35.329 was like, I mean, there's a documentary called 00:29:35.329 --> 00:29:40.829 My Best Fiend, which which is about the relationship 00:29:40.829 --> 00:29:45.069 between Herzog and Kinski. And there's an amazing 00:29:45.069 --> 00:29:48.369 scene in the beginning of that where he, Werner 00:29:48.369 --> 00:29:50.549 Herzog, visits the apartment that he rented. 00:29:50.589 --> 00:29:54.670 And I think it was in Berlin. where he was first 00:29:54.670 --> 00:29:56.990 becoming a filmmaker and where he first met Klaus 00:29:56.990 --> 00:29:59.450 Kinski. And he goes there and it's now occupied 00:29:59.450 --> 00:30:02.279 by these two, you know, just... very conservative, 00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:05.480 this German couple. And he starts going through 00:30:05.480 --> 00:30:07.680 the house and saying, oh, yes, here, this is 00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:12.740 where Klaus, you know, went crazy. And he started 00:30:12.740 --> 00:30:15.299 smashing it and shitting on the walls. Because 00:30:15.299 --> 00:30:19.460 he was an insane guy. His whole thing was about 00:30:19.460 --> 00:30:23.740 provocation. And so he brings a kind of crazy 00:30:23.740 --> 00:30:27.960 vampire. I mean, it feels like a real vampire. 00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:30.480 I remember it now, but I haven't seen it. What 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:32.960 year was that? You mean the Kinski one? Yes. 00:30:33.099 --> 00:30:35.200 I think it was in the 70s, so I'm thinking it 00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:38.099 was like 78 or 79, maybe even earlier. I know 00:30:38.099 --> 00:30:41.500 I've seen all the Nosferatos. Let me see. Give 00:30:41.500 --> 00:30:44.819 me a clip from Werner Herzog's. I will eventually 00:30:44.819 --> 00:30:47.259 see this new one. It's fucking good, man. It's 00:30:47.259 --> 00:30:50.500 good. The dude who plays the vampire, what's 00:30:50.500 --> 00:30:54.400 his name? The guy who played the clown in It? 00:30:54.539 --> 00:30:56.200 Bill Skarsgård. Oh, yeah, Bill Skarsgård. He's 00:30:56.200 --> 00:31:02.920 so good. He's so good. So is this the scene when 00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:05.079 he meets the vampire? I don't know. I just clicked 00:31:05.079 --> 00:31:07.579 on it. Yeah, this... Oh, he cuts this. Yeah, 00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:13.579 this is it. I mean, that's... I mean, Kinski 00:31:13.579 --> 00:31:20.599 brings just an amazing, deep empathy. It could 00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:23.099 give you blood poisoning. Oh, this is the English 00:31:23.099 --> 00:31:26.339 version. Please, let me do it. It's the oldest 00:31:26.339 --> 00:31:31.009 remedy in the world. Oh, forget it. It's hardly 00:31:31.009 --> 00:31:46.390 worth mentioning. Just a little cut. You know, 00:31:46.589 --> 00:32:04.559 it's only for the best. The original... That's 00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.259 so awesome. And that's probably Kinski, like, 00:32:07.339 --> 00:32:08.960 you know, they're supposed to cut and Kinski 00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:14.440 just keeps going. Yeah. I mean, Bruno Gans, I 00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:16.319 think it's Bruno Gans, is probably terrified 00:32:16.319 --> 00:32:19.160 in real life because he doesn't know. Kinski's 00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:21.700 crazy enough where he'll bite him. Right. And 00:32:21.700 --> 00:32:31.900 he's got those fake teeth in. Yeah. Let's sit 00:32:31.900 --> 00:32:38.259 up for a while. All right, show me a clip from 00:32:38.259 --> 00:32:42.299 the new one. You got to see the new Nosferatu. 00:32:42.700 --> 00:32:44.839 I mean, I had never seen a vampire like that. 00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:47.480 And I think Salem's Lot was made after the TV 00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:48.940 movie Salem's Lot. Yeah, Salem's Lot is super 00:32:48.940 --> 00:32:54.799 similar to it. There's a scene when he meets 00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:59.299 the guy at the castle. I did see one scene from 00:32:59.299 --> 00:33:02.500 this online with Lily Rose Depp kind of reacting 00:33:02.500 --> 00:33:04.660 to something, which was like very compelling. 00:33:04.740 --> 00:33:06.539 Go full screen to this. This is when he makes 00:33:06.539 --> 00:33:10.960 it into the castle. It's really dark, man. He 00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:15.039 did a fantastic job of like capturing the creepiness 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:20.339 of it and also the surreal aspect of. Him being 00:33:20.339 --> 00:33:22.319 under the trance of this vampire, you recognize 00:33:22.319 --> 00:33:25.740 that reality is all fucked up and skewed. Like 00:33:25.740 --> 00:33:28.480 time passes very quickly. It doesn't make sense. 00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:40.180 He's super confused as to what's going on. I 00:33:40.180 --> 00:33:42.759 mean, I have to say this movie feels haunted 00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:46.730 as haunted by. The Herzog version is Herzog was 00:33:46.730 --> 00:33:51.109 haunted by the Murnau version. For you. For me. 00:33:51.609 --> 00:33:55.410 I encourage anybody to enjoy all three of them, 00:33:55.450 --> 00:33:57.390 I guess. Yeah, I wonder if he was haunted by 00:33:57.390 --> 00:33:59.390 that or I wonder if he was haunted by the original. 00:33:59.890 --> 00:34:04.269 But this is with the use of all. The little step 00:34:04.269 --> 00:34:07.750 frame. Modern ability. Yeah. But it's just the 00:34:07.750 --> 00:34:10.170 way they made the castle and the way they made 00:34:10.170 --> 00:34:13.619 him is very unique. There's so many aspects of 00:34:13.619 --> 00:34:15.239 it that I thought were very unique. Even the 00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:18.019 way the vampire feeds on people is unique. This 00:34:18.019 --> 00:34:40.639 guy is a very, very, very good filmmaker. I don't 00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:43.780 know so much about the way he's talking. It's 00:34:43.780 --> 00:34:47.440 weird, but it grows on you. It grows on you. 00:34:47.480 --> 00:34:49.960 Well, I'm sure it has a haunting quality over 00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.460 time. Yeah, like this. The guy just disappears, 00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:55.059 and all of a sudden he's way far away. There's 00:34:55.059 --> 00:34:58.280 a lot of that in this movie. So the scene when 00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:01.460 they get him to sign papers, when he gets up 00:35:01.460 --> 00:35:06.400 to that. Questions about the... Right there. 00:35:09.909 --> 00:35:14.730 many superstitions here that may seem backward 00:35:14.730 --> 00:35:23.050 to a young man of your high learning. I'm sure 00:35:23.050 --> 00:35:25.530 Prince Charles was like jacking off to this film. 00:35:26.869 --> 00:35:30.030 Before they made that painting. Apparently he 00:35:30.030 --> 00:35:34.550 visits Castle Dracula like every year. Well, 00:35:34.570 --> 00:35:38.039 isn't he related to... Vlad Tepes? Yeah, it doesn't 00:35:38.039 --> 00:35:40.639 surprise me. I mean, he's German. He's of German 00:35:40.639 --> 00:35:44.599 ancestry. I think Prince Charles is related to 00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:48.800 the original Vlad the Impaler. That would track 00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:52.059 with the whole baby eating thing. They give you 00:35:52.059 --> 00:36:06.860 a look of what he looks like. They don't want 00:36:06.860 --> 00:36:08.679 to give away too much. That was the other thing. 00:36:08.739 --> 00:36:10.840 Like, you don't really get to get a look at them 00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:13.539 for quite a while. And when you do, it's horrifying. 00:36:14.099 --> 00:36:17.320 Yeah. And the movie is made in washes of darkness. 00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:22.599 It's very dark. I mean, it's very much a candlelit 00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:26.539 movie, which I like because I don't like a film 00:36:26.539 --> 00:36:28.599 where you're pretending that people are in a 00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:30.880 candlelit, but it's really well lit. Well, and 00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:33.780 that's an example of where video actually is. 00:36:34.090 --> 00:36:38.550 is a better medium to choose because it, it like 00:36:38.550 --> 00:36:42.429 digital loves darkness and it can do things in 00:36:42.429 --> 00:36:44.429 darkness that film just doesn't have the capacity 00:36:44.429 --> 00:36:46.530 to do. Right. And so it's an excellent choice. 00:36:46.570 --> 00:36:48.849 When we did silent Hill, we made the choice of 00:36:48.849 --> 00:36:51.050 whenever we're in the dark, we're shooting on 00:36:51.050 --> 00:36:53.730 digital. And whenever it's during daylight, we're 00:36:53.730 --> 00:36:56.789 shooting on film to create a kind of dissonance 00:36:56.789 --> 00:37:00.889 between the two. And so, um, And that's largely 00:37:00.889 --> 00:37:04.170 because digital loves dark. And this is a great 00:37:04.170 --> 00:37:07.550 use of it. I'm warming up to it. I like I've 00:37:07.550 --> 00:37:11.090 been waiting. I bought it on on Blu -ray. I have 00:37:11.090 --> 00:37:14.030 the movie. I mean, I keep it. It's in that stack. 00:37:14.110 --> 00:37:16.530 I've just been waiting for the right time to 00:37:16.530 --> 00:37:19.230 expose it, expose myself to it. I'm in the right 00:37:19.230 --> 00:37:22.170 mood. I loved it. I'm no film expert, but it's 00:37:22.170 --> 00:37:24.429 my favorite vampire movie ever. Well, that's 00:37:24.429 --> 00:37:27.590 that's that's actually saying a lot. That's that's 00:37:27.590 --> 00:37:29.500 incredible. I loved it. That's incredible. A 00:37:29.500 --> 00:37:33.840 fun vampire movie is 30 Days of Night. Yeah, 00:37:33.860 --> 00:37:36.420 30 Days of Night is great. I love that one, too. 00:37:36.559 --> 00:37:39.199 It's not as good as this. This is a better movie. 00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:41.260 I think I Am Legend is actually a pretty good 00:37:41.260 --> 00:37:45.519 vampire movie. The one with Will Smith. I thought 00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:48.019 they were zombies. Well, they're kind of... It's 00:37:48.019 --> 00:37:50.119 a contagion film, technically. They're not really 00:37:50.119 --> 00:37:52.260 zombies, but they've been turned into vampire 00:37:52.260 --> 00:37:55.900 -like creatures in that film. That's a really 00:37:55.900 --> 00:37:59.489 good one. And then that one that... What's his 00:37:59.489 --> 00:38:05.530 name? That Polynesian director who did the Thor 00:38:05.530 --> 00:38:14.329 movie did. God, what was it called? I can't remember 00:38:14.329 --> 00:38:16.670 the name of it. But it's like a comedy version 00:38:16.670 --> 00:38:22.829 of vampires kind of all living in a house. How 00:38:22.829 --> 00:38:26.449 old was that? This was made sometime in the mid 00:38:26.449 --> 00:38:29.989 -2000s, I think. Vampires living in a house? 00:38:30.170 --> 00:38:31.949 What we do in the shadows. Yeah, what we do in 00:38:31.949 --> 00:38:34.710 the shadows. Did you see that? Nope. That is 00:38:34.710 --> 00:38:37.869 an incredible vampire movie. Really? It's kind 00:38:37.869 --> 00:38:42.230 of like a mockumentary, like where they're, but 00:38:42.230 --> 00:38:45.349 it takes all of the kind of vampire mythology 00:38:45.349 --> 00:38:47.909 and it makes it really, really fun. I've never 00:38:47.909 --> 00:38:50.329 even heard of this. It's fantastic. This is his 00:38:50.329 --> 00:38:52.489 best film. This is, I'm sure, the foundation 00:38:52.489 --> 00:38:55.170 of everything he's done has been on what we do, 00:38:55.230 --> 00:38:58.099 for me, what we do in the shadows. Huh. That's 00:38:58.099 --> 00:39:01.260 so crazy. I never even heard of it. Yeah, it's 00:39:01.260 --> 00:39:08.079 wonderful. Show me the trailer, Jamie. We are 00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:10.500 granted protection for the subjects in this film? 00:39:10.699 --> 00:39:13.300 Oh, it's like a Blair Witch Project type deal. 00:39:14.760 --> 00:39:18.000 It's been like this the whole time, Deacon, on 00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:20.619 dishes, and it still hasn't moved in five years. 00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:22.900 You're a cool guy, but you're not pulling your 00:39:22.900 --> 00:39:25.960 weight in the flat. Oh, I'm glad to hear that 00:39:25.960 --> 00:39:29.380 I'm cool. No, that's not the point, though. You're 00:39:29.380 --> 00:39:30.739 missing the point. Yeah, no, I know. Not the 00:39:30.739 --> 00:39:34.079 flat meeting about how cool you are. When you 00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:37.800 get three vampires in a flat, obviously there's 00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:42.380 going to be a lot of tension. Viago was an 18th 00:39:42.380 --> 00:39:47.860 century dandy. Luke, a ghost cop. Vatislav is 00:39:47.860 --> 00:39:50.440 a bit of a pervert. This is my torture chamber. 00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:53.920 Deacon's like the young bad boy of the group. 00:39:54.139 --> 00:39:58.760 I'm supposed to pay rent? But I don't. The trouble 00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:02.139 with being a vampire is you have to be invited 00:40:02.139 --> 00:40:08.219 in. Will you invite us in? We need some fresh 00:40:08.219 --> 00:40:11.679 blood. The whole movie is like that. It's fantastic. 00:40:12.219 --> 00:40:16.679 That's funny. Will you invite us in? Just invite 00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:19.619 us in. The bouncer's like, no. And they can't 00:40:19.619 --> 00:40:21.340 do anything about it because they're vampires. 00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:25.179 Let the right one in. Oh, okay. That is, of all 00:40:25.179 --> 00:40:27.199 the modern vampire movies, I mean, I haven't 00:40:27.199 --> 00:40:29.860 seen the, what's his name, Eggers? The American 00:40:29.860 --> 00:40:32.539 version of it? No, I hate the American version. 00:40:32.679 --> 00:40:35.860 The American version is, let them in is terrible. 00:40:38.699 --> 00:40:41.239 I had to wash my eyes afterwards with another 00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:46.280 movie. I didn't mind it. I hated the, but because 00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:49.260 I loved the foreign version. Who, which country 00:40:49.260 --> 00:40:51.360 was it from? I think it's Sweden. Sweden. It's 00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:53.800 really good. It's an outstanding, outstanding 00:40:53.800 --> 00:40:56.079 film. And the book is fabulous as well. It's 00:40:56.079 --> 00:40:59.670 an amazing novel. Yeah, I just love a good horror 00:40:59.670 --> 00:41:02.670 movie, a well -made horror movie. Because, like, 00:41:02.889 --> 00:41:05.010 the suspension of disbelief is, like, inherent 00:41:05.010 --> 00:41:07.250 to the enjoyment of the film. Like, you know, 00:41:07.369 --> 00:41:10.050 like, just show me. Show me how the guy turns 00:41:10.050 --> 00:41:13.349 into a monster. Show me. Yeah, make it so. Make 00:41:13.349 --> 00:41:19.320 it so. And also you can see, like, I mean. They 00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:21.900 have been making Dracula movies again and again 00:41:21.900 --> 00:41:23.840 and again. It seems like every year there's another 00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:26.800 vampire movie coming out or every couple of years 00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:30.679 at least. And, you know, there never seems to 00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:33.360 be an exhausted. The market never seems to be 00:41:33.360 --> 00:41:36.159 exhausted. Right. By it. You know, it's zombie 00:41:36.159 --> 00:41:38.699 movies. They continue making them. You know, 00:41:38.719 --> 00:41:41.269 it's like that's the most overused genre. Is 00:41:41.269 --> 00:41:44.150 zombie films. Zombie films, zombie TV shows. 00:41:44.269 --> 00:41:45.989 I mean, how many versions of The Walking Dead 00:41:45.989 --> 00:41:48.389 are there? There's multiple. Yeah. And I'm not 00:41:48.389 --> 00:41:51.349 a big fan of the, I like, I mean. The beginning 00:41:51.349 --> 00:41:53.570 was great. I think first season of The Walking 00:41:53.570 --> 00:41:54.050 Dead was great. When it started, but then I, 00:41:54.050 --> 00:41:57.909 when I realized, oh, it's just sadism. And I 00:41:57.909 --> 00:42:00.050 mean, I get the point. After the first season, 00:42:00.090 --> 00:42:01.730 I realized, oh, the point is that The Walking 00:42:01.730 --> 00:42:04.730 Dead are the living. They're actually The Walking 00:42:04.730 --> 00:42:08.170 Dead because they've become emotionally – I didn't 00:42:08.170 --> 00:42:10.289 like – it got into the point where they were 00:42:10.289 --> 00:42:14.730 just – it was just murder porn. Yeah, and – And 00:42:14.730 --> 00:42:16.769 that I mean, I think I even talked about this 00:42:16.769 --> 00:42:19.710 before that like that's a real problem with television 00:42:19.710 --> 00:42:22.250 is that they're just trying to get the serotonin 00:42:22.250 --> 00:42:24.869 levels spiked by killing someone that you care 00:42:24.869 --> 00:42:28.090 about. And, you know, real television, you return 00:42:28.090 --> 00:42:30.090 because you love the characters and you want 00:42:30.090 --> 00:42:32.309 to return to it. Well, sometimes it's done well, 00:42:32.469 --> 00:42:35.760 like Game of Thrones. Did a fantastic job of 00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:37.539 doing that. But even that kind of lost its way 00:42:37.539 --> 00:42:40.280 after a while. Well, there's like eight seasons. 00:42:40.500 --> 00:42:43.079 I'm re -watching it right now. We're actually 00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:45.800 on season three right now. It's fucking great. 00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:49.320 I kind of forgot how great it was. But when you 00:42:49.320 --> 00:42:52.139 get to binge it and you don't have to wait, like 00:42:52.139 --> 00:42:54.739 there was years in between seasons because it 00:42:54.739 --> 00:42:57.260 took so long to produce. Have you seen the Pendragon 00:42:57.260 --> 00:43:02.940 cycle? The Rise of the Merlin? No. Okay, so. 00:43:03.550 --> 00:43:08.309 These days, you almost don't know where to find 00:43:08.309 --> 00:43:10.610 television. And that's because you can find it 00:43:10.610 --> 00:43:16.150 anywhere. And the mainstay producers of it, the 00:43:16.150 --> 00:43:18.030 studios and everything, they're no longer reliable 00:43:18.030 --> 00:43:21.269 in producing quality television. And so suddenly 00:43:21.269 --> 00:43:25.550 we see stuff rising out of places that are completely 00:43:25.550 --> 00:43:29.630 unexpected. And this was produced by the Daily 00:43:29.630 --> 00:43:34.260 Wire. Of all people. Yes. And the CEO of the 00:43:34.260 --> 00:43:37.300 Daily Wire directed it. This guy, Jeremy Boring. 00:43:37.480 --> 00:43:39.239 Yeah. I hope I'm not mispronouncing his name. 00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:45.139 His name is Boring. And this is good? Okay. This 00:43:45.139 --> 00:43:49.079 is, to me, this is better than, you know, it's, 00:43:49.079 --> 00:43:56.639 I have a very high watermark for Arthurian mythology. 00:43:57.119 --> 00:43:59.400 Like, to me, Excalibur is the high watermark. 00:44:00.030 --> 00:44:02.739 And this really went through this like. I had 00:44:02.739 --> 00:44:04.179 a chip on my shoulder when I started watching 00:44:04.179 --> 00:44:06.719 this. I was like, OK, this is very unlikely that 00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:08.960 I'm going to enjoy this production. But they 00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:12.039 did it for like a for a micro budget. Effectively, 00:44:12.139 --> 00:44:15.500 they made something that is absolutely kind of 00:44:15.500 --> 00:44:18.460 reinvents the mythology and they do it like proper 00:44:18.460 --> 00:44:21.320 television where you kind of love the characters 00:44:21.320 --> 00:44:25.119 and they weave an entire reality and universe 00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:27.460 that is just fantastic. And it's done for like, 00:44:27.539 --> 00:44:30.579 you know, for very, very little, you know. They're 00:44:30.579 --> 00:44:33.280 spending billions making these Lord of the Rings 00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:36.179 things and like nobody cares. They're just awful 00:44:36.179 --> 00:44:39.960 to watch. And in the meantime, these guys just, 00:44:40.139 --> 00:44:43.920 you know, without anybody paying attention, cranked 00:44:43.920 --> 00:44:47.300 this out. And I've only seen four episodes of 00:44:47.300 --> 00:44:50.780 it, but I am like completely blown away by it. 00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:52.940 That's so interesting. The Daily Wire. Because 00:44:52.940 --> 00:44:54.679 I haven't heard anything about it. I think that's 00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:56.539 part of the problem is the Daily Wire. Well, 00:44:56.539 --> 00:44:58.199 that's because, well, like we don't hear about 00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:00.940 a lot of things. Right. And media is like the 00:45:00.940 --> 00:45:05.239 least of it. Right. Good point. But certainly 00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:07.460 with the Daily Wire, the problem is it's like 00:45:07.460 --> 00:45:10.079 associated with this right -wing production company. 00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:13.679 If you can get over that and put that behind 00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:18.159 you, then, I mean, this is, to me, as good as 00:45:18.159 --> 00:45:22.119 classic television. My prejudice was initially, 00:45:22.300 --> 00:45:24.900 oh, they're going to somehow or another embed 00:45:24.900 --> 00:45:29.019 right wing ideology in this. Everybody's embedding 00:45:29.019 --> 00:45:31.679 their own ideology. Whenever you make any media, 00:45:31.840 --> 00:45:35.139 there's usually you have corporate propaganda 00:45:35.139 --> 00:45:38.000 and personal propaganda. And usually there was 00:45:38.000 --> 00:45:39.500 a balance between the two. You know, if you're 00:45:39.500 --> 00:45:44.559 making Midnight Express, for example. OK, that 00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:47.699 movie was nothing like the book at all. Really? 00:45:47.739 --> 00:45:51.099 Not even close to the book. And it's a complete 00:45:51.099 --> 00:45:53.159 alternate experience. And you wonder, why did 00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:55.619 that movie, why was that movie such a big success? 00:45:55.659 --> 00:46:00.579 Why was that movie such a overwhelmingly like 00:46:00.579 --> 00:46:04.000 Oscars and everything? OK, I think it had a little 00:46:04.000 --> 00:46:05.559 bit more to do with the politics of what was 00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:08.280 going on with Turkey at that time. than anything 00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:13.119 else. And, you know, what's his name? Billy Hayes, 00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:16.420 who, you know, experienced it, lived it, spent 00:46:16.420 --> 00:46:18.780 the rest of his life basically apologizing for 00:46:18.780 --> 00:46:25.039 the movie. Why? Because he wasn't, like, raped 00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:28.059 in a Turkish prison. Oh, the original guy wrote 00:46:28.059 --> 00:46:29.380 the book. That's like a joke that gets, you know, 00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:32.619 in Airplane they're making jokes about it. Right. 00:46:32.659 --> 00:46:34.780 And so, yeah, Billy Hayes, he was the actual 00:46:34.780 --> 00:46:37.889 character or the... person who lived the experience. 00:46:38.309 --> 00:46:43.050 And so the movie is a kind of propaganda element. 00:46:43.210 --> 00:46:45.809 And that's like all Hollywood does that. You 00:46:45.809 --> 00:46:48.630 kind of accept whenever you're making a movie 00:46:48.630 --> 00:46:52.170 that you're being used in a certain level to 00:46:52.170 --> 00:46:55.420 do something, whether it's to... On a very basic 00:46:55.420 --> 00:46:58.239 level, whether it's just to like mortify or scare 00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:01.820 audiences or to do things. And we see that more 00:47:01.820 --> 00:47:04.639 and more obviously in media as the director, 00:47:04.820 --> 00:47:07.159 the personal propaganda when you have something 00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:10.139 personal that you want to get on screen has become 00:47:10.139 --> 00:47:13.579 more and more diminished. And you have sort of 00:47:13.579 --> 00:47:15.960 more corporate propaganda kind of taking over. 00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:19.980 And I think the most probably. Crass example 00:47:19.980 --> 00:47:24.559 of that is DEI stuff, you know, in movies and 00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:27.719 pushing characters in situations that are just 00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:30.800 completely out of whack. Did you see the Star 00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:34.659 Trek that they tried to make like that? OK, I'm 00:47:34.659 --> 00:47:37.000 like a big Star Trek guy. I watch Star Trek every 00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:39.250 day. day in my house. We watch like two or three 00:47:39.250 --> 00:47:41.909 episodes. And I'm not kidding. My wife is like 00:47:41.909 --> 00:47:45.289 a Trekkie. She is like crazy for Star Trek. And 00:47:45.289 --> 00:47:47.409 so she puts Star Trek on, you know, like at around 00:47:47.409 --> 00:47:52.730 five o 'clock, Star Trek comes on. Well, we cycle 00:47:52.730 --> 00:47:55.769 through, we go chronologically from, you know, 00:47:55.769 --> 00:47:59.090 the original series through the next generation 00:47:59.090 --> 00:48:03.269 and then DS9 and then Voyager and then Enterprise. 00:48:03.960 --> 00:48:07.260 back to and sometimes you know when you show 00:48:07.260 --> 00:48:10.500 an episode like in DS9 there's an episode called 00:48:10.500 --> 00:48:12.900 Trials and Tribulations where all the characters 00:48:12.900 --> 00:48:15.119 go into the past and they kind of interact with 00:48:15.119 --> 00:48:17.539 Trouble with Tribbles and they kind of blend 00:48:17.539 --> 00:48:19.780 them into the set and everything that's happening 00:48:19.780 --> 00:48:22.420 we'll then go back and watch Trouble with Tribbles 00:48:22.420 --> 00:48:25.960 or you know same thing with Wrath of Khan we'll 00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:29.159 do this you know so we'll we'll kind of connect 00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:32.920 it all together and so but Every day there's 00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:35.019 at least two or three episodes of Star Trek playing 00:48:35.019 --> 00:48:37.400 in my house. It's like I usually have to wrestle 00:48:37.400 --> 00:48:39.380 away the controller to say we're watching a movie 00:48:39.380 --> 00:48:44.760 now. And so and my children were like basically 00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:48.559 raised on Star Trek and, you know, the sort of 00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:53.250 morals behind Star Trek. And, you know. You know, 00:48:53.250 --> 00:48:55.150 and people complain about, oh, you know, I don't 00:48:55.150 --> 00:48:57.650 like DS9 as much. It's not as dynamic. I hate 00:48:57.650 --> 00:49:00.690 Bajor and blah, blah, blah. But I think Captain 00:49:00.690 --> 00:49:03.750 Sisko is one of the most amazing captains there 00:49:03.750 --> 00:49:05.610 is because he's also a father. And there's all 00:49:05.610 --> 00:49:08.170 these like father -son lessons that are going 00:49:08.170 --> 00:49:10.690 on throughout it. It's like really elaborate 00:49:10.690 --> 00:49:13.510 television. And by the way, all that kind of 00:49:13.510 --> 00:49:17.630 DEI stuff is still in it. It's still there. They're 00:49:17.630 --> 00:49:19.949 exploring all sorts of things in Star Trek The 00:49:19.949 --> 00:49:25.349 Next Generation. Riker, who's like the second 00:49:25.349 --> 00:49:29.309 in command to Picard. In that one, there's an 00:49:29.309 --> 00:49:32.389 episode where he goes to a planet of neuters 00:49:32.389 --> 00:49:34.909 that are just, you know, they have one gender 00:49:34.909 --> 00:49:38.190 and he falls in love with one and they kind of 00:49:38.190 --> 00:49:40.610 waken up out of their single gender thing and 00:49:40.610 --> 00:49:42.889 realize, oh, I'm female. And that person then 00:49:42.889 --> 00:49:46.269 gets taken and reprogrammed. And then there's 00:49:46.269 --> 00:49:48.409 an episode where Cork is turned into a woman 00:49:48.409 --> 00:49:51.469 in order to. for some cockamamie reason that 00:49:51.469 --> 00:49:54.210 they come up with in the show. And, and, and 00:49:54.210 --> 00:49:55.929 he kind of likes it. He's like getting into it. 00:49:56.030 --> 00:49:58.710 So it's not like they aren't exploring gender 00:49:58.710 --> 00:50:00.949 and not just beating you over the head with it. 00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:04.239 It's somehow integrated into good storytelling. 00:50:04.300 --> 00:50:08.199 And I think something happened at the studios 00:50:08.199 --> 00:50:11.099 where they fired all of the legacy people and 00:50:11.099 --> 00:50:14.739 they hired on a bunch of new people who just 00:50:14.739 --> 00:50:18.860 weren't as good at storytelling or as respectful 00:50:18.860 --> 00:50:24.500 of the canon, I guess you could say, is what 00:50:24.500 --> 00:50:29.659 it was. But those seasons of Star Trek are, which 00:50:29.659 --> 00:50:31.989 I guess you could call the... from the Gene Roddenberry 00:50:31.989 --> 00:50:36.110 into the Rick Berman era. And, I mean, they had 00:50:36.110 --> 00:50:38.070 such amazing writers. They had guys like Rene 00:50:38.070 --> 00:50:42.230 Echeverria and Naren Shankar, and they had technical 00:50:42.230 --> 00:50:44.610 advisors. And, you know, so if you were just 00:50:44.610 --> 00:50:46.889 into the tech, you could really, like, you know, 00:50:46.909 --> 00:50:50.989 and most of our technology and most of our aspirations 00:50:50.989 --> 00:50:54.110 have come from Star Trek. You know, our telephones 00:50:54.110 --> 00:50:56.969 are basically... You know, like tricorders. Tricorders, 00:50:57.130 --> 00:51:00.949 yeah. And when we see it on Star Trek, like, 00:51:00.989 --> 00:51:03.210 oh, we talked to the computer. Well, I want to 00:51:03.210 --> 00:51:05.590 have that. And so somebody figures out a way 00:51:05.590 --> 00:51:07.429 to develop that and to make it so. And now we 00:51:07.429 --> 00:51:10.250 have that. Didn't he actually say computer? Yeah. 00:51:10.250 --> 00:51:12.730 He would say computer and ask a question? Hey, 00:51:13.329 --> 00:51:17.630 Siri. Hey, Siri, same thing. Yeah. Wow. And so, 00:51:17.650 --> 00:51:20.460 you know, it's a. I mean, I think it's a fantastic 00:51:20.460 --> 00:51:24.440 show. And then this dweeb Alex Kurtzman comes 00:51:24.440 --> 00:51:27.400 along and just shits all over everything, just 00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:30.019 like craps all over it. And I mean, I went in 00:51:30.019 --> 00:51:32.440 and met with the guy, you know, I was like, hey, 00:51:32.500 --> 00:51:35.940 I will write for scale. You know, I'll write 00:51:35.940 --> 00:51:38.739 on your new show. I'd like. I just want to be 00:51:38.739 --> 00:51:40.820 part of it. Just as an opportunity to work on 00:51:40.820 --> 00:51:43.019 Star Trek. And I basically found out he didn't 00:51:43.019 --> 00:51:45.159 want anybody who had any kind of fondness for 00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:47.920 the original show. He wanted to do something 00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:51.599 new and to create something new. And boy, has 00:51:51.599 --> 00:51:54.579 he shit the bed, like in a big way. And this 00:51:54.579 --> 00:51:58.760 latest thing that they've made, this Starfleet 00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:01.340 Academy, now it's still ongoing. Maybe it writes 00:52:01.340 --> 00:52:04.360 itself at some point. I think they canceled it. 00:52:04.420 --> 00:52:07.300 Did they? Good. The newest woke super woke version. 00:52:07.320 --> 00:52:10.440 They read the room. They read the room. Finally. 00:52:12.099 --> 00:52:15.119 Didn't they stop the idea of a season two? That 00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:17.639 fucking Alex Kurtzman, man. His company is called 00:52:17.639 --> 00:52:20.300 Secret Hideout, I think. He's going to need a 00:52:20.300 --> 00:52:24.239 secret hideout after destroying Star Trek for 00:52:24.239 --> 00:52:26.360 this latest generation. Are we talking about 00:52:26.360 --> 00:52:29.099 the newest one, the one with Tig Notaro? That's 00:52:29.099 --> 00:52:31.219 the newest one. Starfleet Academy? Starfleet 00:52:31.219 --> 00:52:34.380 Academy is an abomination. Is that what you're 00:52:34.380 --> 00:52:36.760 talking about? Yes. I could not get through three 00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:40.199 episodes of Discovery. And I mean, they're just 00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:44.340 like, it is just awful, awful storytelling. Well, 00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:47.800 it's also clunky dialogue and bad acting. Just 00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:52.780 horrible. And they're more interested in the 00:52:52.780 --> 00:52:55.590 corporate. corporate – in the corporate propaganda 00:52:55.590 --> 00:52:57.949 than they are with any kind of personal propaganda. 00:52:58.309 --> 00:52:59.869 Trevor Burrus Right. It seems like that's the 00:52:59.869 --> 00:53:03.769 imperative. It's like they get across this inclusive 00:53:03.769 --> 00:53:06.449 concept. Matthew Feeney The card was terrible. 00:53:06.670 --> 00:53:09.469 It was sad actually. It was just depressing for 00:53:09.469 --> 00:53:13.119 me. And so, like, when, you know, when Seth, 00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:14.820 what's his name, did that show, The Orville. 00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:17.280 And, like, that is, like, you know, the proper 00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:19.139 successor. Like, they brought back guys like 00:53:19.139 --> 00:53:23.519 James Conroy. I don't know what The Orville is. 00:53:23.980 --> 00:53:27.440 It was kind of like a comedy version Seth MacFarlane 00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:31.000 did. But he hired all the original people that 00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:33.619 they had fired from Star Trek and basically used 00:53:33.619 --> 00:53:36.639 them to do his show. And it actually feels a 00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:40.949 little bit more like a continuation. I never 00:53:40.949 --> 00:53:44.030 heard of this either. And it's on Hulu? Yeah. 00:53:44.369 --> 00:53:48.230 It is a Star Trek? No, it's not Star Trek. It's 00:53:48.230 --> 00:53:50.789 the Orville. So they just ripped off Star Trek? 00:53:50.789 --> 00:53:52.670 They basically just ripped off Star Trek. And 00:53:52.670 --> 00:53:54.849 they have a sort of like tongue -in -cheek quality, 00:53:54.949 --> 00:53:58.309 but they bring all the writers from the original 00:53:58.309 --> 00:54:01.869 and showrunners and people like that. And the 00:54:01.869 --> 00:54:06.929 original director is like Jim Conroy. I want 00:54:06.929 --> 00:54:10.920 to say Conroy, but I think it's Conroy. Whatever. 00:54:11.860 --> 00:54:15.239 And so they bring everybody back, and it has 00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:17.039 a little bit more of the same spirit. Another 00:54:17.039 --> 00:54:20.000 really good Star Trek -ish thing is Galaxy Quest. 00:54:20.179 --> 00:54:23.420 It's something that got kind of buried with— 00:54:23.420 --> 00:54:25.940 Sigourney Weaver? Sigourney Weaver. Yeah, that 00:54:25.940 --> 00:54:28.940 was good. Galaxy Quest is hilarious. If you love 00:54:28.940 --> 00:54:31.639 the original series of Star Trek, Galaxy Quest 00:54:31.639 --> 00:54:37.179 is amazing. Like, it's so fantastic. I love Sigourney 00:54:37.179 --> 00:54:39.360 Weaver. Yeah. She's one of my all -time favorites. 00:54:39.980 --> 00:54:42.820 That's a good example of a movie that was like 00:54:42.820 --> 00:54:45.739 a DEI movie that you never even noticed it was 00:54:45.739 --> 00:54:49.300 Alien. Yeah. You have a female lead and you never 00:54:49.300 --> 00:54:50.960 think about it. It's not like we didn't have 00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:54.059 like powerful women in movies before. We've like 00:54:54.059 --> 00:54:56.380 had them throughout history. Right. You know, 00:54:56.380 --> 00:54:59.900 the history of cinema is built on, you know, 00:54:59.900 --> 00:55:03.159 and by the way, a, you know, a complex woman 00:55:03.159 --> 00:55:06.159 character can have faults. Right. Like that's. 00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:09.119 Part of it is characters have faults. Characters 00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:11.340 have things wrong with them. Yeah. They're not 00:55:11.340 --> 00:55:16.119 always just, you know, like, you know. Dominant 00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:18.820 and noble. Dominant and like can do everything 00:55:18.820 --> 00:55:22.199 immediately. Exactly. Like some of the Star Wars 00:55:22.199 --> 00:55:25.179 ones went woke. There was a few of those. Well, 00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:27.099 yeah. I mean, you know, it's funny. You had – 00:55:27.099 --> 00:55:30.159 I think it was here. Ben Affleck was on and they 00:55:30.159 --> 00:55:32.780 were talking about AI and how it always goes 00:55:32.780 --> 00:55:35.139 to the middle and, well, you know, it always 00:55:35.139 --> 00:55:37.019 goes to the middle. It always goes to the middle. 00:55:37.340 --> 00:55:41.650 And I was like – J .J. Abrams always goes to 00:55:41.650 --> 00:55:44.730 the middle. And boy, was that Star Wars he did 00:55:44.730 --> 00:55:47.710 the middle where he just basically took the Luke 00:55:47.710 --> 00:55:49.690 Skywalker story and just reinterpreted it with 00:55:49.690 --> 00:55:53.750 a strong, strong woman character. And I just 00:55:53.750 --> 00:55:58.070 thought it was bland and just tasteless and just, 00:55:58.150 --> 00:56:01.349 you know, nothing new. He just went to the middle. 00:56:01.429 --> 00:56:03.469 So you don't need A .I. to go to the middle. 00:56:03.960 --> 00:56:06.739 This episode is brought to you by Visible. Folks, 00:56:06.820 --> 00:56:09.239 there's one thing nobody wants this season and 00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:12.550 that's getting catfished. And it's not just dating 00:56:12.550 --> 00:56:15.349 profiles that are putting you at risk. It's also 00:56:15.349 --> 00:56:18.530 big wireless carriers. You know the type. Looks 00:56:18.530 --> 00:56:21.269 great at first. Promises a low price. But once 00:56:21.269 --> 00:56:24.530 you're locked in, surprise fees and an expensive 00:56:24.530 --> 00:56:27.710 bill that isn't what you were expecting. Your 00:56:27.710 --> 00:56:31.650 knight in shining armor? Visible wireless. 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I didn't like Aliens 2 as much. 00:57:16.289 --> 00:57:18.590 It was fun. But it was like, why are they so 00:57:18.590 --> 00:57:21.130 easy to kill now? Why are they so obvious? Well, 00:57:21.130 --> 00:57:24.250 they were, you know, space marines. Marines are 00:57:24.250 --> 00:57:27.650 tough. Marines are badass. I know. But the first 00:57:27.650 --> 00:57:28.690 alien was clever. But those aliens, they still 00:57:28.690 --> 00:57:30.559 overwhelmed her. I know, but the first Alien 00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:33.480 was clever. He was hiding. He would sneak around. 00:57:33.980 --> 00:57:36.219 He would jump. You didn't get to see much of 00:57:36.219 --> 00:57:38.460 it, and that was also cool, too, because it kind 00:57:38.460 --> 00:57:41.159 of captured you with the suspense. It's one of 00:57:41.159 --> 00:57:43.760 the best movies ever made. Ever. And it's a 1979 00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:45.860 movie, too, which is crazy. People don't even 00:57:45.860 --> 00:57:47.699 know how old it is. What's funny, I recently 00:57:47.699 --> 00:57:50.239 went back and started watching all the Ridley 00:57:50.239 --> 00:57:53.539 Scott movies I hadn't seen. There's a ton of 00:57:53.539 --> 00:57:55.960 them that I just kind of missed along the way. 00:57:56.360 --> 00:58:02.199 And I started off with... God, what was it? Oh, 00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:05.639 I started off with Napoleon because I just missed 00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:09.219 it when it came out. And I'm like, what happened 00:58:09.219 --> 00:58:12.760 to Ridley Scott? And I have not liked any of 00:58:12.760 --> 00:58:14.880 his recent alien movies. I just think they're 00:58:14.880 --> 00:58:17.900 – I'm confused by them, to be honest. The Prometheus 00:58:17.900 --> 00:58:20.239 ones. It's just like when you need a web episode 00:58:20.239 --> 00:58:22.340 in order to understand what the hell he's talking 00:58:22.340 --> 00:58:26.000 about in the movie, you failed. And they're just 00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:29.119 like – they're technically – technical marvels. 00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:33.280 Like, nobody shoots big canvas cinema like Ridley 00:58:33.280 --> 00:58:36.099 Scott. Like, no one shoots a helicopter crashing 00:58:36.099 --> 00:58:38.539 like Ridley Scott shoots a helicopter crashing. 00:58:38.860 --> 00:58:43.139 And, you know, you watch Napoleon and, sure, 00:58:43.219 --> 00:58:46.880 the Battle of Austerlitz. amazing to watch you 00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:49.860 know cannonballs going into the the lake and 00:58:49.860 --> 00:58:52.440 the ice breaking and people falling in the water 00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:55.860 but the minute anybody talks in that movie it 00:58:55.860 --> 00:58:59.059 just collapses on its own weight it's just like 00:58:59.059 --> 00:59:01.809 you just Don't care. My wife was like, this is 00:59:01.809 --> 00:59:04.289 the worst date movie. You're not going to sleep 00:59:04.289 --> 00:59:08.130 with me after this. What's wrong with it? I didn't 00:59:08.130 --> 00:59:12.050 see it. Well, Joaquin Phoenix, and I think he 00:59:12.050 --> 00:59:14.530 made a choice because I consider him to be an 00:59:14.530 --> 00:59:17.349 excellent actor. But in this movie, I think he 00:59:17.349 --> 00:59:21.820 made a choice to just play it. He just kind of 00:59:21.820 --> 00:59:24.460 talks. Everybody else is doing sort of a British 00:59:24.460 --> 00:59:27.119 or French -ish accent. They're all kind of pretending 00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:30.079 that they're in a period piece. But not Joaquin 00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:32.039 Phoenix. He just plays it like he just walked 00:59:32.039 --> 00:59:35.699 off Hollywood Boulevard. Really? And just like 00:59:35.699 --> 00:59:38.920 the battle scene. There's no passion in any of 00:59:38.920 --> 00:59:42.079 his performance. It's kind of this weird, dead, 00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:46.159 dead performance. You think he did it on purpose 00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:49.300 to portray like a sociopath? I think he came 00:59:49.300 --> 00:59:51.300 on. He was like, I am going to do whatever I 00:59:51.300 --> 00:59:54.699 want to do the way Napoleon would. And I'm not 00:59:54.699 --> 00:59:57.159 going to try. I'm a Corsican and I'm not I'm 00:59:57.159 --> 00:59:58.699 going to be an outsider to all of these other 00:59:58.699 --> 01:00:00.920 people who were. I think there was an intellectual 01:00:00.920 --> 01:00:03.320 idea behind what he did and it completely failed. 01:00:03.380 --> 01:00:06.440 So I'm like, OK, I adore watching Ridley Scott 01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:09.360 do these big scenes, but what a terrible movie. 01:00:09.940 --> 01:00:14.380 And. you know, like failure. And then I, and 01:00:14.380 --> 01:00:16.619 so then after that, I'm like, okay, let's, let's 01:00:16.619 --> 01:00:18.780 watch something else. Well, oh, he did Exodus. 01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:21.840 I've never seen that. Gods and Kings with Christian 01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:25.519 Bale. Same thing. It's like you start watching 01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:27.059 that movie and there's some interesting things 01:00:27.059 --> 01:00:30.400 in the film. He's got like chariot battles and, 01:00:30.440 --> 01:00:32.699 you know, archers shooting things. And like, 01:00:32.739 --> 01:00:34.659 you know, whenever he's doing that, like Ridley 01:00:34.659 --> 01:00:36.500 Scott's like, oh, this is my day on set. And 01:00:36.500 --> 01:00:38.980 he's got a cigar and 20 cameras and cameras everywhere. 01:00:39.380 --> 01:00:41.619 And he's like, shoot from every angle. And he's 01:00:41.619 --> 01:00:44.579 like a like a great general, you know, shooting. 01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:47.519 But the minute anybody talks, that movie falls 01:00:47.519 --> 01:00:50.000 apart. And actually. I mean, I don't know how 01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:52.440 to say this, but that movie almost did its best 01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:55.559 to turn me on the Jews. Like I'm watching it 01:00:55.559 --> 01:00:59.159 and I'm like, this is like, first of all, is 01:00:59.159 --> 01:01:01.559 anybody even Jewish making this? Like, it seems 01:01:01.559 --> 01:01:04.840 like nobody involved in it was was Jewish. And 01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:07.599 like they start like, you know, how is that even 01:01:07.599 --> 01:01:10.619 possible? Well, Moses as a character, when he's 01:01:10.619 --> 01:01:13.820 an Egyptian, when he's like the adopted Egyptian 01:01:13.820 --> 01:01:15.980 brother, I'm like totally with him. For some 01:01:15.980 --> 01:01:18.099 reason, then he becomes Moses after getting like 01:01:18.099 --> 01:01:21.139 hit in the head with a rock. And and all of a 01:01:21.139 --> 01:01:25.360 sudden he's, you know, kind of he's like a lunatic. 01:01:25.360 --> 01:01:29.349 And you're like, everybody's following him. Like 01:01:29.349 --> 01:01:33.809 he's distasteful all of a sudden. But every now 01:01:33.809 --> 01:01:35.489 and then they would show a battle scene and it's 01:01:35.489 --> 01:01:38.630 like, okay, Ridley Scott's doing his thing again. 01:01:39.070 --> 01:01:41.690 And you know who's also really good in it is, 01:01:41.769 --> 01:01:44.449 God, I can't remember, Joel Egerton, who plays 01:01:44.449 --> 01:01:47.750 Ramses. It's really funny because Joel Egerton 01:01:47.750 --> 01:01:51.190 is, you know, usually you imagine Egyptians when 01:01:51.190 --> 01:01:53.909 they're cast as being kind of tall and, you know, 01:01:53.929 --> 01:01:56.599 sort of. He's noble looking and everything. He's 01:01:56.599 --> 01:01:59.260 kind of like this butch, like sort of tough, 01:01:59.380 --> 01:02:03.559 you know, wide bodied butch Ramses, just kind 01:02:03.559 --> 01:02:04.960 of like a tough Ramses. And every now and then 01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:06.719 his Australian accent comes out. And so he's 01:02:06.719 --> 01:02:10.019 like, oh, he's like an Australian Ramses. And 01:02:10.019 --> 01:02:14.300 John Turturro plays his father, you know, a bald. 01:02:14.460 --> 01:02:16.400 I'm like, is that John Turturro? Like, what a 01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:19.099 crazy choice this is. And so there were all sorts 01:02:19.099 --> 01:02:22.219 of like interesting things going on in the movie. 01:02:22.280 --> 01:02:25.909 But again, I was like, oh, this is. Is it impossible 01:02:25.909 --> 01:02:29.750 for you to watch a movie without just becoming 01:02:29.750 --> 01:02:32.369 hypercritical about all these different aspects, 01:02:32.510 --> 01:02:34.550 like how I would do it, what I don't like? Yes 01:02:34.550 --> 01:02:38.199 and no. So the next Ridley Scott movie I watched, 01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:41.719 which I stayed away from and with great apologies 01:02:41.719 --> 01:02:45.079 to Matt Damon and Ben Affleck, was The Last Duel. 01:02:45.539 --> 01:02:47.940 And I just kind of avoided it. I was doing other 01:02:47.940 --> 01:02:50.139 things at the time. And the poster looked awful. 01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:52.500 And I was like, I'm not going to go see that. 01:02:52.659 --> 01:02:56.500 And then I put it on after watching these other 01:02:56.500 --> 01:02:58.760 two. And I was like, OK, here we go. Let's go 01:02:58.760 --> 01:03:02.739 again. And lo and behold, one of the best films 01:03:02.739 --> 01:03:06.130 of the century. Really? Absolutely. First of 01:03:06.130 --> 01:03:09.150 all, those guys know how to write a script. And 01:03:09.150 --> 01:03:11.550 I know that they wrote it with Nicole Hofsenotter 01:03:11.550 --> 01:03:14.769 or whatever her name is. And look at Ben Affleck. 01:03:14.829 --> 01:03:17.849 When I saw him blonde, I was like, that's one 01:03:17.849 --> 01:03:19.329 of the reasons it kept me away from it. But he's 01:03:19.329 --> 01:03:22.289 hilarious in the movie. He's a genius in the 01:03:22.289 --> 01:03:24.989 film. I never even heard about this movie. I 01:03:24.989 --> 01:03:27.769 was gripped by this film. And this is a great 01:03:27.769 --> 01:03:29.989 date movie. Like this, my wife got turned on 01:03:29.989 --> 01:03:34.829 after this film. Believe it or not. That's hilarious. 01:03:34.929 --> 01:03:36.550 I don't know anything about this movie. And Adam 01:03:36.550 --> 01:03:40.070 Driver is magnificent. And like this relationship 01:03:40.070 --> 01:03:41.590 that these two guys have. And it's kind of a 01:03:41.590 --> 01:03:44.909 Rashomon story. Meaning that like Akira Kurosawa's 01:03:44.909 --> 01:03:47.789 Rashomon, which was three stories that are all 01:03:47.789 --> 01:03:49.809 sort of the same event told from different perspectives. 01:03:50.110 --> 01:03:54.570 And Matt Damon is like, And this movie says so 01:03:54.570 --> 01:03:56.150 much about Hollywood. Like when I watched this, 01:03:56.210 --> 01:03:58.590 I was like, OK, I'm Matt Damon and Quentin is 01:03:58.590 --> 01:04:03.130 Adam Driver for sure. Like Adam Driver totally 01:04:03.130 --> 01:04:05.869 knows how to like you learn about Hollywood in 01:04:05.869 --> 01:04:07.670 this film. And I'm sure they're writing it like 01:04:07.670 --> 01:04:10.130 knowing about Hollywood, that the way to really 01:04:10.130 --> 01:04:13.230 get along in court is to join the orgies. You 01:04:13.230 --> 01:04:15.389 know, to be in the orgy with everybody is like 01:04:15.389 --> 01:04:19.090 how you get along. It's like we all fuck together 01:04:19.090 --> 01:04:21.510 and that's how we do it. But Matt Damon, who 01:04:21.510 --> 01:04:24.929 by all accounts. in this is a great... You know, 01:04:24.949 --> 01:04:28.469 he's a fighter. He's a great knight. He's true 01:04:28.469 --> 01:04:31.809 in his heart. But he's just like a pill to hang 01:04:31.809 --> 01:04:33.989 out with. And he doesn't go to the orgies. And 01:04:33.989 --> 01:04:35.610 because of that, he's just kind of marginalized. 01:04:35.989 --> 01:04:38.630 And the whole movie plays off of this friendship 01:04:38.630 --> 01:04:41.369 that just kind of goes awry where jealousy comes 01:04:41.369 --> 01:04:45.570 into play. And it's ruinous to everything until 01:04:45.570 --> 01:04:47.750 they're finally fighting in the very end. And 01:04:47.750 --> 01:04:50.369 this is where Ridley Scott just does what he 01:04:50.369 --> 01:04:55.070 does, which is he has this. This insane fight 01:04:55.070 --> 01:04:58.449 between these two guys, which like was just every 01:04:58.449 --> 01:05:02.010 blow was painful to look at. And this to me was 01:05:02.010 --> 01:05:04.469 the best Ridley Scott movie I've seen of the 01:05:04.469 --> 01:05:07.610 century. I mean, I guess Black Hawk Down. I also 01:05:07.610 --> 01:05:09.389 very much like Gladiator, although Gladiator 01:05:09.389 --> 01:05:12.010 2. I throw that in. I never saw that. Throw that 01:05:12.010 --> 01:05:14.550 in with Exodus, Gods and Monsters. It was actually 01:05:14.550 --> 01:05:18.369 boring to watch. I love Gladiator 1 though. Gladiator 01:05:18.369 --> 01:05:21.309 1 is magnificent. It had some kind of secret 01:05:21.309 --> 01:05:24.449 sauce in it that was fantastic. And Gladiator 01:05:24.449 --> 01:05:27.050 2, it just kind of goes through the paces. It's 01:05:27.050 --> 01:05:28.849 just kind of everybody shows up. Speaking of 01:05:28.849 --> 01:05:31.349 showing up, when Sigourney Weaver shows up in 01:05:31.349 --> 01:05:34.969 Exodus, Gods and Monsters, she's not even trying 01:05:34.969 --> 01:05:37.110 at all. She knows that she's there for a paycheck. 01:05:37.389 --> 01:05:40.210 Like she just shows up and she's just like. does 01:05:40.210 --> 01:05:42.329 not put on an accent of any kind. She just shows 01:05:42.329 --> 01:05:44.849 up and just speaks the lines and I'm out of here. 01:05:45.050 --> 01:05:48.110 I'm going into Morocco or whatever, into town. 01:05:49.210 --> 01:05:51.469 I'm going to go party for a while. Do you think 01:05:51.469 --> 01:05:53.610 she just thought it was a bad film and just checked 01:05:53.610 --> 01:05:55.969 out? I'm not sure what she was thinking, but 01:05:55.969 --> 01:05:58.949 like she may have been thinking what, I mean, 01:05:58.969 --> 01:06:01.429 maybe she was trying, but I don't, it just didn't 01:06:01.429 --> 01:06:04.980 look like it. It just looked like she was. That's 01:06:04.980 --> 01:06:06.920 got to be a weird thing when an actor makes a 01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:09.300 choice with a character and it just doesn't work 01:06:09.300 --> 01:06:10.739 and they don't realize it, but they're committed 01:06:10.739 --> 01:06:13.179 to it. And the other Ridley Scott movie that 01:06:13.179 --> 01:06:15.420 I just watched that I hadn't seen again, I avoided 01:06:15.420 --> 01:06:20.050 it partly because of the. The title of the film 01:06:20.050 --> 01:06:21.989 and they're just nothing excited. I thought it 01:06:21.989 --> 01:06:23.969 was a comedy. In fact, I'd been avoiding it. 01:06:24.010 --> 01:06:27.650 It was on my plex. There it is. I look at the 01:06:27.650 --> 01:06:30.170 thing. It looks like a comedy. It's got Javier 01:06:30.170 --> 01:06:32.469 Bardem and Cameron Diaz and they're all kind 01:06:32.469 --> 01:06:35.369 of Javier Bardem looking exactly like Robert 01:06:35.369 --> 01:06:37.730 Downey Jr. Like in it, like just kind of this 01:06:37.730 --> 01:06:40.349 crazy Robert Downey Jr. in his crazy phase, you 01:06:40.349 --> 01:06:42.309 know, with like colorful glasses and everything. 01:06:42.750 --> 01:06:45.250 Robert Downey Jr. with like a. broken up nose 01:06:45.250 --> 01:06:48.210 or whatever's going on with that nose and um 01:06:48.210 --> 01:06:52.510 okay so i put on the counselor and this movie 01:06:52.510 --> 01:06:54.510 so looking at that i thought this was a comedy 01:06:54.510 --> 01:06:56.690 i thought oh it's going to be a romantic comedy 01:06:56.690 --> 01:07:00.889 this movie after i saw it i was like i feel like 01:07:00.889 --> 01:07:03.969 i've seen too much i feel like i know too much 01:07:03.969 --> 01:07:08.210 now about the world like it's it and and it and 01:07:08.210 --> 01:07:10.869 it's made like right before you know i think 01:07:10.869 --> 01:07:12.730 this movie was kind of a disaster for ridley 01:07:12.730 --> 01:07:17.539 scott And he, you know, had to recover from it, 01:07:17.539 --> 01:07:20.480 probably because of the failure of it. But I 01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:23.539 never even heard of it. It's written by, oh, 01:07:23.539 --> 01:07:28.260 my God, Cormac McCarthy. And so it is dark, dark, 01:07:28.300 --> 01:07:34.579 dark. And it is a an analysis of how power works 01:07:34.579 --> 01:07:37.900 in the modern world, which is basically a giant 01:07:37.900 --> 01:07:41.050 cartel. The cartel runs everything and you cannot 01:07:41.050 --> 01:07:45.389 escape the cartel. And it is such a spectacular. 01:07:45.389 --> 01:07:48.690 I think that's such a spectacular movie. I loved 01:07:48.690 --> 01:07:51.070 it. I loved it. When did that come out? Like 01:07:51.070 --> 01:07:54.130 2014, I think. 2013. 2013. Did you ever hear 01:07:54.130 --> 01:07:57.630 of it, Jamie? I don't think so. There's too much 01:07:57.630 --> 01:07:59.769 content. Well, there's too much content. And 01:07:59.769 --> 01:08:02.550 he's cranking out movies like every year he's 01:08:02.550 --> 01:08:04.670 doing a movie. It's like just knocking him back, 01:08:04.750 --> 01:08:07.750 knocking him back. And constantly making films. 01:08:07.869 --> 01:08:10.550 And so that was why I hadn't. And so finally, 01:08:10.610 --> 01:08:12.369 I was like, well, I got to catch up on some Ridley 01:08:12.369 --> 01:08:15.550 Scott. And Quentin had been talking about Black 01:08:15.550 --> 01:08:17.130 Hawk Down and how much he loved it and how he 01:08:17.130 --> 01:08:19.430 thought it was the best film of the century. 01:08:19.489 --> 01:08:23.189 And, you know, he's largely correct. That's not 01:08:23.189 --> 01:08:28.350 a bad. I could have done without the UNICEF commercial 01:08:28.350 --> 01:08:30.909 at the very beginning where it's just like, you 01:08:30.909 --> 01:08:33.619 know. a little UNICEF commercial about people 01:08:33.619 --> 01:08:37.239 starving in Africa and Somalia. But the rest 01:08:37.239 --> 01:08:39.979 of the movie is just insanely beautiful. And 01:08:39.979 --> 01:08:41.579 so I wanted to check out all the movies I hadn't 01:08:41.579 --> 01:08:44.880 seen of his. And so that's why I started researching 01:08:44.880 --> 01:08:46.560 them and looking them up again. And like the 01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:48.260 counselor, how did that fall through the cracks? 01:08:48.479 --> 01:08:51.500 And it gets terrible reviews. Like people hated 01:08:51.500 --> 01:08:53.960 the film, apparently. And what's the criticism? 01:08:55.420 --> 01:08:58.100 People like, I think they were just like, we 01:08:58.100 --> 01:09:00.510 don't believe it. They just don't believe that 01:09:00.510 --> 01:09:02.510 that's what the world is like. And, you know, 01:09:02.529 --> 01:09:06.250 I found the film to be like. Do you think that's 01:09:06.250 --> 01:09:07.829 just because of the time period it was released? 01:09:07.890 --> 01:09:12.510 I think Ridley Scott knows things that and Cormac 01:09:12.510 --> 01:09:15.970 McCarthy know things about the world that they 01:09:15.970 --> 01:09:19.590 put on film before everything was known. Like 01:09:19.590 --> 01:09:21.270 I think if that movie was released today, people 01:09:21.270 --> 01:09:23.550 would be like, yeah, that's what's happening 01:09:23.550 --> 01:09:26.890 today. Yeah. And so, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, they're 01:09:26.890 --> 01:09:31.210 putting people in sulfuric acid into drums. Yeah, 01:09:31.210 --> 01:09:34.029 what the fuck? And shipping them around the world, 01:09:34.090 --> 01:09:37.850 you know, as a joke. That's in the film? Yeah. 01:09:37.909 --> 01:09:40.069 Did you see the thing in the Epstein files? Oh, 01:09:40.090 --> 01:09:44.149 yeah. Those Epstein files. In fact, I can't believe 01:09:44.149 --> 01:09:45.989 that, like, everybody just kind of like, oh, 01:09:46.109 --> 01:09:47.729 okay. And they're moving on with their lives. 01:09:47.930 --> 01:09:49.670 Did you see that guy at the Atlanta airport? 01:09:50.489 --> 01:09:53.029 flipping out the well -dressed black dude who 01:09:53.029 --> 01:09:56.430 just freaks out. When? Just like a couple of 01:09:56.430 --> 01:10:02.890 days ago. I saw it on Twitter or X. And this 01:10:02.890 --> 01:10:05.779 guy is just... freaking out in the Atlanta airport. 01:10:05.880 --> 01:10:09.239 He's like, I read the upstate files. Like all 01:10:09.239 --> 01:10:11.140 of you, you're going about your lives like nothing's 01:10:11.140 --> 01:10:13.960 happening. Look at your old zombies. And he's 01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:16.340 right. It's like invasion of the body snatchers. 01:10:16.380 --> 01:10:20.000 Everybody is just numb to everything. Like dudes, 01:10:20.079 --> 01:10:25.319 we had a global pandemic, aliens, you know, all 01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:27.560 these like revelations. People are, you know, 01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:42.189 eating babies. Here's the guy. And there's a 01:10:42.189 --> 01:10:44.149 longer version of that where he's, but he's basically 01:10:44.149 --> 01:10:46.369 like, you're all acting like nothing's happening. 01:10:46.729 --> 01:10:49.109 Like, what the fuck? You know, you're all just 01:10:49.109 --> 01:10:51.609 pretending you're just drones going on in your 01:10:51.609 --> 01:10:52.850 normal lives. I think people are waiting for 01:10:52.850 --> 01:10:56.710 a condensed version that lays out all the facts. 01:10:57.010 --> 01:10:59.029 It's the people that are like really interested 01:10:59.029 --> 01:11:01.829 in reading all the emails. I think the Luciferians 01:11:01.829 --> 01:11:06.390 cast a spell on the world. For real? Oh, absolutely. 01:11:07.770 --> 01:11:10.090 You know, it's just like how vampires can't go 01:11:10.090 --> 01:11:12.409 into a house unless they're invited. They tell 01:11:12.409 --> 01:11:14.869 you, you know, what's going on ahead of time. 01:11:15.090 --> 01:11:17.789 It's predictive programming. And once you say 01:11:17.789 --> 01:11:19.510 it out loud and you put it out there and make 01:11:19.510 --> 01:11:23.170 fun of it and do a little skit like Stephen Colbert 01:11:23.170 --> 01:11:25.329 did a little skit on his show where, oh, here's 01:11:25.329 --> 01:11:27.489 a baby. I'm going to take this baby and I'm going 01:11:27.489 --> 01:11:29.529 to give it to Moloch. And he goes into like a 01:11:29.529 --> 01:11:33.829 cloudy red. you know, furnace and hands the baby 01:11:33.829 --> 01:11:36.229 over and the baby's going to be fine. And they 01:11:36.229 --> 01:11:37.670 make a joke about it and the audience laughs. 01:11:37.850 --> 01:11:40.029 OK, we're all now conditioned to it. We've all 01:11:40.029 --> 01:11:43.449 seen it. And by laughing at it, we were complicit. 01:11:43.470 --> 01:11:46.449 You think that that's a that's on purpose, that 01:11:46.449 --> 01:11:48.670 this is like some sort of a grand design to get 01:11:48.670 --> 01:11:51.430 us to be desensitized to the idea of demons eating 01:11:51.430 --> 01:11:55.439 babies? Yeah, for sure. Really? For sure. And 01:11:55.439 --> 01:11:58.199 by the way, nobody's doing anything about it. 01:11:58.220 --> 01:12:00.340 We know what's happening. But that has to take, 01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:03.420 like, there has to be a person or some group 01:12:03.420 --> 01:12:07.140 of people. Yeah, like about 8 ,500 people. That 01:12:07.140 --> 01:12:10.079 are manipulating the Colbert Show? That are manipulating 01:12:10.079 --> 01:12:14.060 everything. It's all an illusion. Like, reality 01:12:14.060 --> 01:12:18.239 as we know it is fake. That's the revelation 01:12:18.239 --> 01:12:21.600 that that guy is having. And he's looking around 01:12:21.600 --> 01:12:23.199 and he's like, it's like Invasion of the Body 01:12:23.199 --> 01:12:27.880 Snatchers. It's – see, I don't – the thing about 01:12:27.880 --> 01:12:30.560 the emails is – one of the things is it's just 01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:34.680 stuff written down. And so that's sort of hard 01:12:34.680 --> 01:12:36.699 to digest. Like what is this? Like what are they 01:12:36.699 --> 01:12:39.439 saying? Like some of it is in code. Like walking 01:12:39.439 --> 01:12:42.800 over beef jerky. Like saying – talking about 01:12:42.800 --> 01:12:45.079 jerky. Could you walk beef jerky over to this 01:12:45.079 --> 01:12:46.100 person? Like what does that mean? For all this 01:12:46.100 --> 01:12:48.180 pizza they're talking about, you never see any 01:12:48.180 --> 01:12:50.840 pizza. Right. Yeah, yeah. They're ordering pizza. 01:12:51.020 --> 01:12:55.460 I'm going to get some – grape soda. It's like 01:12:55.460 --> 01:12:59.119 with my cheese pizza. Yeah. And like there's 01:12:59.119 --> 01:13:00.739 all this coded language and everyone's like, 01:13:00.840 --> 01:13:03.840 you know, oh, that's you're just you just have 01:13:03.840 --> 01:13:06.479 periola. You know, the you're just seeing things 01:13:06.479 --> 01:13:08.840 where you want to see them. No, there's clearly 01:13:08.840 --> 01:13:10.460 a code. Well, that was the thing about pizza. 01:13:10.460 --> 01:13:12.659 It's absolutely a code. And in fact, Mundus Volt 01:13:12.659 --> 01:13:16.539 Decipi Ergo Decipiatur. It's a long known concept. 01:13:17.199 --> 01:13:20.819 And so in Latin, mundus volt decepi means the 01:13:20.819 --> 01:13:24.579 world wants to be deceived. Ergo, decipiatur. 01:13:24.680 --> 01:13:29.140 Therefore, it is. We want to be deceived. We 01:13:29.140 --> 01:13:33.020 don't want to believe the horrors that are actually 01:13:33.020 --> 01:13:35.420 behind the veil. Well, I think with the Epstein 01:13:35.420 --> 01:13:38.039 files, people are, because of these emails that 01:13:38.039 --> 01:13:40.140 have been released, people are just now starting 01:13:40.140 --> 01:13:47.279 to be aware of the bizarreness of the code. some 01:13:47.279 --> 01:13:49.079 of the things, like the facts, like let's just 01:13:49.079 --> 01:13:51.680 talk about the sulfuric acid. So this was like 01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:56.100 right after he was indicted in 2018. Yeah, I 01:13:56.100 --> 01:13:58.960 got to get rid of some bodies. Yeah. I got to 01:13:58.960 --> 01:14:02.260 dissolve up some bodies. What did it say he ordered? 01:14:02.640 --> 01:14:09.529 Like, let's... Like 8 ,000 gallons. Maybe we 01:14:09.529 --> 01:14:13.529 can get our sponsor Perplexity to process this 01:14:13.529 --> 01:14:17.489 and give us a synopsis of what exactly happened, 01:14:17.569 --> 01:14:20.189 some sort of a breakdown. Because one of the 01:14:20.189 --> 01:14:22.949 things they're saying is like he was indicted, 01:14:23.010 --> 01:14:26.449 and then right after he's indicted, he orders 01:14:26.449 --> 01:14:30.989 how many gallons? Six 55 -gallon containers full 01:14:30.989 --> 01:14:36.609 of sulfuric acid. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. 01:14:40.310 --> 01:14:45.529 What? What? They're eating babies, man. So that 01:14:45.529 --> 01:14:48.029 you think is real? Well, yeah, not only that. 01:14:48.170 --> 01:14:50.909 I think that there's, you know, sacrifices going 01:14:50.909 --> 01:14:53.880 on every day in Los Angeles. I mean, you know, 01:14:53.899 --> 01:14:59.399 allegedly like, you know, high level musicians, 01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:03.659 let's say high level female musician is like, 01:15:03.760 --> 01:15:06.439 you know, killing chickens every day, doing sacrifices 01:15:06.439 --> 01:15:09.649 like, you know, high level. Well, I don't want 01:15:09.649 --> 01:15:11.510 to say names because I don't want to get sued. 01:15:11.750 --> 01:15:13.489 And I don't want to be dead either. What does 01:15:13.489 --> 01:15:15.430 it rhyme with? Here's the purchase order. I go, 01:15:15.529 --> 01:15:17.369 I start looking at the comments for some stuff. 01:15:17.489 --> 01:15:19.529 Not that this is the best answer, but a quick 01:15:19.529 --> 01:15:22.390 answer someone gives is that this could be for 01:15:22.390 --> 01:15:25.189 like a reverse osmosis water treatment system. 01:15:25.210 --> 01:15:26.710 It's true. He is on an island. He's on an island. 01:15:26.710 --> 01:15:29.989 I mean, there's enough pushback because mundus 01:15:29.989 --> 01:15:34.529 volt decipi, ergo decipiatur. But like the timing 01:15:34.529 --> 01:15:36.850 of all of that, like where are the purchase orders 01:15:36.850 --> 01:15:39.329 for all of that sulfur? acid before that. Oh, 01:15:39.409 --> 01:15:41.189 no, I just want to put sulfuric acid into my 01:15:41.189 --> 01:15:42.869 swimming pool. Muriatic acid. Well, that's the 01:15:42.869 --> 01:15:45.750 question. Was there orders for sulfuric acid 01:15:45.750 --> 01:15:48.189 before this? If they do have a water treatment 01:15:48.189 --> 01:15:51.090 plan? How does sulfuric acid play into water 01:15:51.090 --> 01:15:53.149 treatment? It says it here. It says it's commonly 01:15:53.149 --> 01:15:55.930 used. This explains it. I don't fucking know. 01:15:56.310 --> 01:16:01.680 Okay. It says... RO plant reverse osmosis seawater 01:16:01.680 --> 01:16:04.300 desalination facility. Sulfuric acid is commonly 01:16:04.300 --> 01:16:06.779 used in the maintenance of such facilities. Not 01:16:06.779 --> 01:16:08.579 everything you don't understand adds up to the 01:16:08.579 --> 01:16:11.000 worst possible thing it could be. Deception. 01:16:11.020 --> 01:16:13.079 Look, maybe they're all eating pizza and grape 01:16:13.079 --> 01:16:15.180 soda. Who is that guy that's saying this? How 01:16:15.180 --> 01:16:16.979 many billionaires do you know that sit down and 01:16:16.979 --> 01:16:19.699 eat lots of pizza and grape soda and ice cream? 01:16:19.939 --> 01:16:23.779 This is weird. A trial lawyer saying this. That's 01:16:23.779 --> 01:16:25.520 why I just go with grain of salt. This is just 01:16:25.520 --> 01:16:27.640 a plausible answer. I don't know that it is the 01:16:27.640 --> 01:16:29.859 answer. I could even be wrong. Okay, so does 01:16:29.859 --> 01:16:34.159 he have a desalination plant on the island? Oh, 01:16:34.159 --> 01:16:37.340 it's a reverse. Oh, yeah, for sure. He had everything. 01:16:37.500 --> 01:16:43.359 He had a dump. So that's tunnels. So they were 01:16:43.359 --> 01:16:45.180 using that. So they were taking seawater and 01:16:45.180 --> 01:16:47.279 converting it into fresh water for what? For 01:16:47.279 --> 01:16:49.939 irrigation or for drinking, for all the above? 01:16:50.199 --> 01:16:52.199 One similar email that he wrote to someone said 01:16:52.199 --> 01:16:55.420 that around his island is like Damascus. And 01:16:55.420 --> 01:16:57.659 I'm like, what the fuck does that mean? He was 01:16:57.659 --> 01:17:00.800 like, you go explore buried shit around my island? 01:17:00.960 --> 01:17:04.960 Or what else could he mean by that? Huh. What 01:17:04.960 --> 01:17:07.699 does that mean? I don't know. I mean, they say 01:17:07.699 --> 01:17:09.539 a lot of things, and they're not really coding 01:17:09.539 --> 01:17:13.640 it very much. Well, the code, it's glaringly 01:17:13.640 --> 01:17:15.680 obvious. When they say pizza and when they say 01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:18.220 jerky, that's glaringly obvious. How do you walk 01:17:18.220 --> 01:17:20.760 jerky? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And why 01:17:20.760 --> 01:17:23.840 do I need a chilled container to, you know, a 01:17:23.840 --> 01:17:25.899 chilled bag or whatever they say? Jesus Christ. 01:17:26.279 --> 01:17:29.560 So you think they're eating babies? Oh, yeah. 01:17:29.800 --> 01:17:31.840 I absolutely believe that. You should get together 01:17:31.840 --> 01:17:34.779 with Kurt Metzger. You two would go crazy. I 01:17:34.779 --> 01:17:38.489 don't doubt it. For a second. And I think this 01:17:38.489 --> 01:17:41.770 dates back like, you know, a long, long time. 01:17:41.869 --> 01:17:46.210 This is Moloch worship. Well, there was the other 01:17:46.210 --> 01:17:49.010 email that said, thank you for the torture video. 01:17:49.149 --> 01:17:53.590 I enjoyed the torture video. Yeah. And it's like 01:17:53.590 --> 01:17:57.520 people just. They don't want to accept it. People 01:17:57.520 --> 01:17:59.460 don't want to believe it. They don't want to 01:17:59.460 --> 01:18:02.899 accept it. Okay. Some commentary notes that a 01:18:02.899 --> 01:18:04.619 remote island with water treatment and energy 01:18:04.619 --> 01:18:07.779 systems could plausibly stockpile such quantities 01:18:07.779 --> 01:18:11.159 for one to two years of operations, although 01:18:11.159 --> 01:18:13.560 others argue that using it directly for reverse 01:18:13.560 --> 01:18:16.579 osmosis, as stated in one social post, is technically 01:18:16.579 --> 01:18:22.699 questionable for membrane health. Hmm. Highly 01:18:22.699 --> 01:18:24.600 corrosive, strong mineral acid that can severely 01:18:24.600 --> 01:18:27.220 burn skin, eyes, dehydrate and char organic material, 01:18:27.359 --> 01:18:30.840 which is why it features in both legitimate industrial 01:18:30.840 --> 01:18:34.739 processes and in darker hypotheticals online. 01:18:35.140 --> 01:18:37.600 Darker hypotheticals. Darker hypotheticals is 01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:40.039 where I'm leaning. When you get indicted for 01:18:40.039 --> 01:18:43.550 sex trafficking and then you order. six drums 01:18:43.550 --> 01:18:47.229 of sulfuric acid right away. Are you really worried 01:18:47.229 --> 01:18:49.630 about your reverse osmosis plant right after 01:18:49.630 --> 01:18:51.430 you get indicted? I feel like you know you're 01:18:51.430 --> 01:18:52.810 going to jail. If it looks like a duck and it 01:18:52.810 --> 01:18:55.130 quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. It's 01:18:55.130 --> 01:18:59.970 probably a duck. 330 gallons of sulfuric acid. 01:19:00.649 --> 01:19:04.380 It says this was the only documented... purchase 01:19:04.380 --> 01:19:06.600 order for it. I came out here last time and I 01:19:06.600 --> 01:19:08.800 talked about, you know, the pedo cult inside 01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:11.840 of the Kubrick film. Yes, by the way, that went 01:19:11.840 --> 01:19:14.340 viral. And I got so much blowback from that. 01:19:14.479 --> 01:19:16.939 You know, online critics are like, no, no, there's 01:19:16.939 --> 01:19:19.079 nothing in there. Mundusvalt, SAP, they don't 01:19:19.079 --> 01:19:21.520 want to see it. They don't want to see those 01:19:21.520 --> 01:19:23.460 two guys walking away with that girl in the end. 01:19:23.560 --> 01:19:26.439 They just like, no, no, it wasn't in the Schnitzler 01:19:26.439 --> 01:19:30.600 novel and blah, blah, blah. I mean... Dude, look 01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:33.199 at that movie. It's about a cult. Like, what 01:19:33.199 --> 01:19:35.060 are you talking about? It's a secret cult. And 01:19:35.060 --> 01:19:37.640 in fact, Sidney Lumet's character even says at 01:19:37.640 --> 01:19:39.979 one point, you know, do you know what these people 01:19:39.979 --> 01:19:41.800 do? I'm not going to tell you what they do, but 01:19:41.800 --> 01:19:43.079 let me tell you, if I told you what they do, 01:19:43.199 --> 01:19:45.380 they would like scare the hell out of you. I 01:19:45.380 --> 01:19:50.500 mean, like that's after he's been to the. place 01:19:50.500 --> 01:19:52.739 and seeing everybody walking around at the in 01:19:52.739 --> 01:19:56.020 the sex club i mean it's obviously there's obviously 01:19:56.020 --> 01:19:58.680 more going on in that movie but people don't 01:19:58.680 --> 01:20:01.760 want to see it i like like i had what was it 01:20:01.760 --> 01:20:04.380 new york magazine or whatever went so far it's 01:20:04.380 --> 01:20:06.739 like you know aggressively trying to get me to 01:20:06.739 --> 01:20:11.539 debunk it and uh and which is fine which is fine 01:20:11.539 --> 01:20:14.170 it's just an interpretation of a movie Right. 01:20:14.250 --> 01:20:16.789 But that interpretation resonated. I mean, that 01:20:16.789 --> 01:20:19.210 clip went very, very viral. Especially now. It's 01:20:19.210 --> 01:20:21.010 like people are like looking at it and they're 01:20:21.010 --> 01:20:23.899 like, well. He was obviously saying something. 01:20:23.920 --> 01:20:26.739 Even if you extract that out of the movie, he's 01:20:26.739 --> 01:20:28.699 obviously saying something about people at high 01:20:28.699 --> 01:20:30.979 levels of power. Well, there's always been weird 01:20:30.979 --> 01:20:34.659 secret groups and rituals. Yeah. And it's one 01:20:34.659 --> 01:20:38.100 of the ways to ensure that you're compromised. 01:20:38.159 --> 01:20:41.140 You'll stay. It's a confidence operation. Yeah. 01:20:41.180 --> 01:20:43.420 And so what you do is you find somebody when 01:20:43.420 --> 01:20:47.079 they're young and they're less inhibited and 01:20:47.079 --> 01:20:50.779 they. you know, or uninhibited and you catch 01:20:50.779 --> 01:20:54.100 them doing something that is illegal and maybe 01:20:54.100 --> 01:20:57.510 you even. provide the mechanism for that to happen. 01:20:58.090 --> 01:21:02.449 And then once it's happened, you now have the 01:21:02.449 --> 01:21:05.289 video proof or the audio proof or whatever proof 01:21:05.289 --> 01:21:07.409 you have. You've got proof of it and you show 01:21:07.409 --> 01:21:10.170 it to them and you say, look, this is what we 01:21:10.170 --> 01:21:13.550 have on you and we can ruin you at any minute. 01:21:13.930 --> 01:21:15.489 But you know what we're going to do? We're going 01:21:15.489 --> 01:21:17.289 to give you $20 ,000 a month or we're going to 01:21:17.289 --> 01:21:20.689 give you $20 million a year, whatever level that 01:21:20.689 --> 01:21:23.010 is instead. And you're going to work for us. 01:21:23.969 --> 01:21:27.869 And and what else explains some of these people 01:21:27.869 --> 01:21:30.390 who are so flipped out about like, you know, 01:21:30.390 --> 01:21:35.550 about Trump? He's a putz. He's like it's over 01:21:35.550 --> 01:21:39.590 the top. It's you know what? It's strange how 01:21:39.590 --> 01:21:45.350 people behave regarding that. It's bizarre. Don't 01:21:45.350 --> 01:21:47.189 you think that's also just because the Democratic 01:21:47.189 --> 01:21:50.630 Party didn't want him to get into power because 01:21:50.630 --> 01:21:52.930 he was a complete outsider? I don't think there 01:21:52.930 --> 01:21:56.810 are parties. I think that's all an illusion also. 01:21:56.930 --> 01:21:59.750 I think everything that you think that it is 01:21:59.750 --> 01:22:03.840 is an illusion. It's all fake. I don't think 01:22:03.840 --> 01:22:06.859 that any history before 1600, I think everything 01:22:06.859 --> 01:22:10.920 has been falsified before the year 1600. How 01:22:10.920 --> 01:22:14.840 so? Well, there's this guy, Anatoly Fomenko, 01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:17.699 who's a Russian mathematician and historian, 01:22:17.979 --> 01:22:20.520 and he wrote a book called The New Chronology. 01:22:20.520 --> 01:22:22.819 It's actually a series of books. It's like six 01:22:22.819 --> 01:22:30.170 volumes, and I've read them all. And also his 01:22:30.170 --> 01:22:32.130 addendum book, The New Chronology. He has an 01:22:32.130 --> 01:22:36.670 addendum book about it. And he basically says 01:22:36.670 --> 01:22:40.250 that all of history has been changed. About a 01:22:40.250 --> 01:22:42.649 thousand years have been added to the timeline 01:22:42.649 --> 01:22:47.010 in order to justify land claims. And those land 01:22:47.010 --> 01:22:51.449 claims largely have to do with the Eurasian Horde 01:22:51.449 --> 01:22:54.470 and the elimination of the Eurasian Horde by 01:22:54.470 --> 01:23:01.050 collusion between the Vatican, the Romanovs, 01:23:01.170 --> 01:23:04.090 the— So you mean like the— Mongols and the Huns? 01:23:04.090 --> 01:23:07.229 Yeah. And if you look on very, very old maps, 01:23:07.369 --> 01:23:09.649 you see that there used to be a country called 01:23:09.649 --> 01:23:14.890 Tartaria that was in existence. And at a certain 01:23:14.890 --> 01:23:18.149 point, they wiped them out. And so his theory, 01:23:18.329 --> 01:23:20.770 and it's just a theory. It's just a posit. But 01:23:20.770 --> 01:23:22.729 when you see how history is constantly being 01:23:22.729 --> 01:23:25.569 rewritten in real time, it's not so hard to believe. 01:23:25.670 --> 01:23:31.170 And then he uses, you know, astronomical evidence 01:23:31.170 --> 01:23:34.829 and mathematically kind of proves it. And he 01:23:34.829 --> 01:23:37.390 basically says that let's see if I can get this 01:23:37.390 --> 01:23:43.800 right, that. Rome and Greece and, you know, those 01:23:43.800 --> 01:23:48.420 and Egypt were actually active till around 1600 01:23:48.420 --> 01:23:51.720 and that Rome actually fell around 1600. So kind 01:23:51.720 --> 01:23:55.760 of imagine or more like late 1400s, 1492. As 01:23:55.760 --> 01:23:57.100 opposed to what's the conventional timeline? 01:23:57.920 --> 01:24:01.420 About a thousand years before. And so and so, 01:24:01.520 --> 01:24:03.939 you know, if you can wrap your head around it, 01:24:04.000 --> 01:24:06.640 the Salem witch trials took place around the 01:24:06.640 --> 01:24:09.470 same time as the Inquisition. Columbus was discovering 01:24:09.470 --> 01:24:13.789 America around the time Rome fell and that all 01:24:13.789 --> 01:24:18.909 of this was designed to justify or to erase this 01:24:18.909 --> 01:24:21.770 entire civilization from history. And then there 01:24:21.770 --> 01:24:23.069 are people who believe that there are a lot of 01:24:23.069 --> 01:24:25.869 buildings that are still in existence that were 01:24:25.869 --> 01:24:30.710 this. They claim that Jesus Christ was, I can't 01:24:30.710 --> 01:24:34.409 remember. the emperor's name. It's kind of a 01:24:34.409 --> 01:24:37.930 composite story. There's a number of... So they 01:24:37.930 --> 01:24:40.590 think a thousand years are missing from the time. 01:24:40.670 --> 01:24:42.590 Well, think about it. If you're a Byzantine guy 01:24:42.590 --> 01:24:44.289 and you're like, hey, I want to move to the country 01:24:44.289 --> 01:24:47.850 and you look over at France, let's say, and Germany 01:24:47.850 --> 01:24:49.810 and you're like, yeah, there's all these like 01:24:49.810 --> 01:24:51.909 indigenous peoples there and we want to wipe 01:24:51.909 --> 01:24:54.930 them out. And so you hire, you know, a mercenary. 01:24:54.970 --> 01:24:57.229 You hire a guy named Charlemagne and you get 01:24:57.229 --> 01:24:59.369 him to go in there and kill all the chieftains 01:24:59.369 --> 01:25:02.619 in one day, like five. thousand chieftains were 01:25:02.619 --> 01:25:04.800 killed in a single day apparently by Charlemagne 01:25:04.800 --> 01:25:07.720 and you completely wipe out everything and then 01:25:07.720 --> 01:25:11.000 you move in you become Jerome the first and you 01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:14.199 run Paris or you begin you know France and what 01:25:14.199 --> 01:25:17.880 it really is is just land and so you add time 01:25:17.880 --> 01:25:20.479 to the timeline in order to justify that land 01:25:20.479 --> 01:25:23.380 claim because what makes more sense that history 01:25:23.380 --> 01:25:25.760 was cruising along like this and then suddenly 01:25:25.760 --> 01:25:27.920 flatlined for a thousand years and then picked 01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:31.079 up again or does it make more sense that somebody 01:25:31.079 --> 01:25:35.340 took that time that the dark ages and kind of 01:25:35.340 --> 01:25:40.640 added added to the timeline so i'm confused so 01:25:40.640 --> 01:25:45.289 but isn't there like documented history from 01:25:45.289 --> 01:25:47.949 multiple cultures about that time period? Yeah, 01:25:47.970 --> 01:25:49.449 but it's all like, you know, written down by 01:25:49.449 --> 01:25:51.390 the Jesuits who were completely in the control 01:25:51.390 --> 01:25:55.310 of, you know, it's that history. History is easily 01:25:55.310 --> 01:25:57.789 changed. And in fact, we see history being changed 01:25:57.789 --> 01:26:00.630 before our eyes in real time. And so the deep 01:26:00.630 --> 01:26:04.350 past is easy to change. So we're not in 2026. 01:26:04.670 --> 01:26:11.720 No, we're like in the 1700s. Oh, Jesus. Oh, my 01:26:11.720 --> 01:26:14.279 God. Just a theory. It's just this guy, Antony 01:26:14.279 --> 01:26:21.960 Flamenco. And it's a very interesting theory. 01:26:22.159 --> 01:26:24.880 And so I read that and I kind of had a tentpole 01:26:24.880 --> 01:26:27.020 collapse. It was like, well, holy crap. Explain 01:26:27.020 --> 01:26:28.939 to me the flatness. Like, what do you mean by 01:26:28.939 --> 01:26:31.920 history goes up and then flat? Well, the progression, 01:26:32.060 --> 01:26:34.359 the progression of humanity through history as 01:26:34.359 --> 01:26:36.699 we kind of are progressing as we go. And then 01:26:36.699 --> 01:26:38.399 all of a sudden there's this flat line called 01:26:38.399 --> 01:26:40.760 the Dark Ages where nothing happened. Is there 01:26:40.760 --> 01:26:44.519 a conventional explanation for this? Flatline 01:26:44.519 --> 01:26:47.819 for a thousand years? The collapse of Rome and 01:26:47.819 --> 01:26:52.619 falling into the time of barbarism. That's not 01:26:52.619 --> 01:26:56.060 plausible? Everything is plausible. It's plausible 01:26:56.060 --> 01:27:01.180 that sulfuric acid is used for RO, reverse osmosis, 01:27:01.180 --> 01:27:04.640 water cleaning. And so everything is possible. 01:27:05.359 --> 01:27:08.079 The question is, is it probable? Well, Jamie 01:27:08.079 --> 01:27:09.699 just pulled up that that was the first time they 01:27:09.699 --> 01:27:12.600 had ever ordered that. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. 01:27:12.680 --> 01:27:14.979 So, well, there it is. Yeah. That's not good. 01:27:15.239 --> 01:27:18.539 Yeah, that's not good. I mean, that's the least 01:27:18.539 --> 01:27:20.640 of the things. The thing is we become desensitized 01:27:20.640 --> 01:27:22.260 to stuff. I mean, look at everything that has 01:27:22.260 --> 01:27:25.760 happened in the last six years. It's like an 01:27:25.760 --> 01:27:27.560 insane amount of stuff has happened and everyone's 01:27:27.560 --> 01:27:29.619 just kind of like numb to it. Well, they get 01:27:29.619 --> 01:27:31.840 desensitized. And I think it literally is that 01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:34.279 people's brains have been fried. You think by 01:27:34.279 --> 01:27:37.119 COVID vaccines? Yeah, for sure. Well, there's 01:27:37.119 --> 01:27:40.000 some scientific evidence that for some people, 01:27:40.020 --> 01:27:42.840 at least, it crossed the blood -brain barrier 01:27:42.840 --> 01:27:44.960 and had some sort of a detrimental effect on 01:27:44.960 --> 01:27:47.579 their cognitive function. mRNA is reprogramming 01:27:47.579 --> 01:27:54.140 your system. And we've been looking at a giant 01:27:54.140 --> 01:27:56.439 die -off of people. People are collapsing left 01:27:56.439 --> 01:27:59.100 and right. Nothing is normal anymore. I mean, 01:27:59.140 --> 01:28:02.979 that guy at the airport who's flipping out. That's 01:28:02.979 --> 01:28:05.180 what he's realizing. He's having a sudden awakening 01:28:05.180 --> 01:28:08.539 and he's tweaking over it. He's like and he's 01:28:08.539 --> 01:28:12.460 looking around and no one cares. Everyone just 01:28:12.460 --> 01:28:15.300 wants to like, you know. through their day. They 01:28:15.300 --> 01:28:17.060 do. Everyone wants to just make their next movie 01:28:17.060 --> 01:28:19.239 and maybe they'll let me make their next movie 01:28:19.239 --> 01:28:20.659 and everybody wants to just, you know, I just 01:28:20.659 --> 01:28:22.399 want to keep going at my job and I just want 01:28:22.399 --> 01:28:23.840 to do my thing and I just want to protect my 01:28:23.840 --> 01:28:25.840 thing. There's certainly a lot of that going 01:28:25.840 --> 01:28:27.340 on. The British only care about it as long as 01:28:27.340 --> 01:28:29.340 I have my daily pint at the end of the day. That's 01:28:29.340 --> 01:28:31.979 all they care about. You know, in the meantime, 01:28:32.159 --> 01:28:35.119 their entire country is being overtaken and overrun 01:28:35.119 --> 01:28:38.560 by, like, when else in history has this happened 01:28:38.560 --> 01:28:42.460 and ended well? No. Well, it's so shocking how 01:28:42.460 --> 01:28:49.560 quickly it's happened. Yeah. Because they're 01:28:49.560 --> 01:28:54.340 doing this mass arrest thing with social media 01:28:54.340 --> 01:28:57.399 posts, which is bizarre. It's bizarre to watch. 01:28:57.619 --> 01:29:00.220 And then they eliminate jury trials for anything 01:29:00.220 --> 01:29:02.260 other than like murder and rape. If you say anything, 01:29:02.380 --> 01:29:05.560 you're in jail. If you repost anything, you're 01:29:05.560 --> 01:29:07.840 just immediately sent to jail. Look what's going 01:29:07.840 --> 01:29:10.539 on in Canada right now, you know, with Carney. 01:29:10.939 --> 01:29:14.079 I mean, like, I think that's insane what's going 01:29:14.079 --> 01:29:15.779 on. And most Canadians are just kind of vibing 01:29:15.779 --> 01:29:17.659 along with it. Nobody wants to rock the boat. 01:29:17.739 --> 01:29:20.119 Nobody wants to be racist. Nobody wants to be, 01:29:20.119 --> 01:29:23.060 you know, nobody wants to be discriminatory in 01:29:23.060 --> 01:29:25.859 any kind of way. Rightfully so. Like, you know, 01:29:25.899 --> 01:29:28.340 you and you want to believe that your leaders 01:29:28.340 --> 01:29:32.479 are are taking care of you and they're not. And 01:29:32.479 --> 01:29:36.939 it's over. We've lost. It's over. I mean, you 01:29:36.939 --> 01:29:39.060 think it's over here in America as well? Well, 01:29:39.239 --> 01:29:43.170 it got slowed down a little bit. Whether you 01:29:43.170 --> 01:29:45.949 like Trump or not, and I'm not like a – I don't 01:29:45.949 --> 01:29:49.010 really like anybody. That's a healthy perspective. 01:29:49.069 --> 01:29:54.380 It definitely added a road bump. In the actions 01:29:54.380 --> 01:29:59.439 of the cabal of the Clintons and the Obamas and 01:29:59.439 --> 01:30:02.460 the bankers that control them. And that's when 01:30:02.460 --> 01:30:05.859 you see the movie The Counselor. That's what 01:30:05.859 --> 01:30:10.319 you realize is that, wow, the cartels are the 01:30:10.319 --> 01:30:13.319 banks and they are law enforcement and they are 01:30:13.319 --> 01:30:15.819 the media and they are everything. And there 01:30:15.819 --> 01:30:19.119 is no fighting it. There is no individually fighting 01:30:19.119 --> 01:30:23.090 it. Like there's nothing. any of us can do. And 01:30:23.090 --> 01:30:25.890 I don't mean to be, I mean, the only thing you 01:30:25.890 --> 01:30:30.029 can do is affect what's happening around you 01:30:30.029 --> 01:30:32.369 locally within the moment. But don't you think 01:30:32.369 --> 01:30:34.970 that more people are aware of what's going on 01:30:34.970 --> 01:30:36.970 right now? There's more pushback than ever before. 01:30:37.189 --> 01:30:39.069 And so there's a possibility that it could be 01:30:39.069 --> 01:30:41.560 stopped. Yeah, look at that guy in the airport, 01:30:41.699 --> 01:30:44.060 though. Everyone's like he's crazy. Yeah, but 01:30:44.060 --> 01:30:46.279 you're yelling at a fucking airport. I would 01:30:46.279 --> 01:30:48.619 think he's crazy, too. If I was there waiting 01:30:48.619 --> 01:30:50.760 for my flight to go visit my parents and there's 01:30:50.760 --> 01:30:52.640 some fucking guy yelling out the Epstein file, 01:30:52.720 --> 01:30:54.220 you're just living your life. Like, yeah, what 01:30:54.220 --> 01:30:56.859 do you want me to do, dude? I'm headed to Florida 01:30:56.859 --> 01:30:58.800 right now. Invasion of the Body Snatchers was 01:30:58.800 --> 01:31:01.060 about McCarthyism and what was going on at that 01:31:01.060 --> 01:31:04.699 time. Really? Oh, yeah. It was the original Invasion 01:31:04.699 --> 01:31:07.319 of the Body Snatchers was all about McCarthyism. 01:31:07.800 --> 01:31:10.340 I'm a fan of the Donald Sutherland one. Well, 01:31:10.399 --> 01:31:13.659 and look at how that ends. That ends with you're 01:31:13.659 --> 01:31:16.140 walking through the streets pretending to be, 01:31:16.279 --> 01:31:20.180 you know, like you're just pretending to not 01:31:20.180 --> 01:31:22.119 be an alien, hoping that you can get by. And 01:31:22.119 --> 01:31:23.680 then, you know, the minute you show any kind 01:31:23.680 --> 01:31:26.399 of emotion, that's it. You're caught. And then 01:31:26.399 --> 01:31:30.739 they're going to make you go to sleep. So the 01:31:30.739 --> 01:31:32.680 original script was written about McCarthyism? 01:31:32.779 --> 01:31:37.720 The original film. The Kevin McCarthy movie. 01:31:38.260 --> 01:31:40.739 And in the end, look how that movie ends. That 01:31:40.739 --> 01:31:43.060 movie ends with him, like that guy in the airport, 01:31:43.159 --> 01:31:49.359 on the street. They're aliens. He's basically 01:31:49.359 --> 01:31:52.539 running through the street just in traffic. People 01:31:52.539 --> 01:31:55.659 just keep driving. I don't remember the original 01:31:55.659 --> 01:31:58.859 one. I might not have even seen it. But the Sutherland 01:31:58.859 --> 01:32:01.239 one was amazing. I never would have thought that 01:32:01.239 --> 01:32:03.539 that's what it was about. I mean we're experiencing 01:32:03.539 --> 01:32:06.340 a kind of Bolshevik revolution at the moment 01:32:06.340 --> 01:32:10.279 right now. In what way? Well, there's a rise 01:32:10.279 --> 01:32:13.699 of Bolshevism. It's like we see it occurring. 01:32:14.680 --> 01:32:19.060 How do you define Bolshevism? Well, it's the 01:32:19.060 --> 01:32:23.979 – And Bolsheviks were essentially a kind of – 01:32:23.979 --> 01:32:29.439 I mean it's not correct to say communism but 01:32:29.439 --> 01:32:32.939 it's basically a kind of authoritarianism in 01:32:32.939 --> 01:32:36.920 the guise of egalitarianism and helping the world 01:32:36.920 --> 01:32:38.619 know we're all going to be equal and everything. 01:32:39.359 --> 01:32:41.819 And they were murdering Christians. Socialism, 01:32:41.859 --> 01:32:43.779 yeah. They were murdering Christians and social 01:32:43.779 --> 01:32:47.359 – and we're very, very close to that now. We're 01:32:47.359 --> 01:32:50.560 very, very, we're on, we're standing on, civilization 01:32:50.560 --> 01:32:54.079 is standing on the precipice at the moment. And 01:32:54.079 --> 01:32:58.020 by the way, you know, after this podcast comes 01:32:58.020 --> 01:32:59.560 out, people are going to be like, oh, Avery's 01:32:59.560 --> 01:33:03.600 crazy. Avery went to jail. Avery's, you know, 01:33:03.600 --> 01:33:06.039 a killer. They're going to say all sorts of shit 01:33:06.039 --> 01:33:08.539 about me to discredit anything that I say. And 01:33:08.539 --> 01:33:12.079 that's fine. Like, I'm easy to discredit. And 01:33:12.079 --> 01:33:14.880 so it's not really my right to speak up anymore 01:33:14.880 --> 01:33:18.220 about anything. You're a human being. It's always 01:33:18.220 --> 01:33:21.300 your right to speak up. Well, it is. They can 01:33:21.300 --> 01:33:25.100 eat shit. As I look around, like civilization 01:33:25.100 --> 01:33:28.939 is on the precipice. And, you know, mostly good 01:33:28.939 --> 01:33:32.600 people tend to not take action against stuff. 01:33:32.779 --> 01:33:35.159 Until they have to. Until they have to. We were 01:33:35.159 --> 01:33:37.260 talking about this yesterday, actually, with 01:33:37.260 --> 01:33:39.760 Cheryl Hines. And I was saying, I think we were 01:33:39.760 --> 01:33:41.689 talking about this. I was talking about this 01:33:41.689 --> 01:33:43.470 recently where I was saying that it's almost 01:33:43.470 --> 01:33:46.729 like we need something like a 9 -11 to wake us 01:33:46.729 --> 01:33:49.489 up. I would never want that to happen. But I 01:33:49.489 --> 01:33:52.430 do remember that after 9 -11, we were united 01:33:52.430 --> 01:33:55.829 because we realized, oh, threats are real. Danger 01:33:55.829 --> 01:33:59.390 is real. Like we really do need to be united 01:33:59.390 --> 01:34:03.050 as one group, a community, and recognize that, 01:34:03.130 --> 01:34:05.510 that we are brothers and sisters in the streets 01:34:05.510 --> 01:34:10.060 are not our problem. And yeah, but. We even know 01:34:10.060 --> 01:34:13.560 about 9 -11 now that like so much of it was like 01:34:13.560 --> 01:34:17.119 Building 7, Thermite, like the evidence is there 01:34:17.119 --> 01:34:20.039 for anyone to look at. Nobody wants to. And nobody 01:34:20.039 --> 01:34:22.560 wants to look at it because and that is. Nobody 01:34:22.560 --> 01:34:24.579 wants to look in the conspiracy like how did 01:34:24.579 --> 01:34:27.220 these guys get a hold of these planes? How did 01:34:27.220 --> 01:34:29.739 they fly into the building? Who? Why were the 01:34:29.739 --> 01:34:32.800 the dancing Israelis watching it, cheering it 01:34:32.800 --> 01:34:35.039 on? Why did they get. You know, shipped out of 01:34:35.039 --> 01:34:37.600 the country. Yeah. And that guy who who owned 01:34:37.600 --> 01:34:39.560 the building, who bought it, who took out it 01:34:39.560 --> 01:34:42.220 like the insurance policy and then, you know, 01:34:42.220 --> 01:34:45.220 had Eliot Spitzer kind of push it through and 01:34:45.220 --> 01:34:47.020 force it through so that he could receive his 01:34:47.020 --> 01:34:49.899 billions in insurance claim money. And really 01:34:49.899 --> 01:34:51.960 because they wanted to tear it because they wanted 01:34:51.960 --> 01:34:53.500 to tear down that building and it would have 01:34:53.500 --> 01:34:56.100 been too expensive to do and all the asbestos 01:34:56.100 --> 01:34:59.159 and everything. So it's like, what was that building 01:34:59.159 --> 01:35:02.449 housing? Like Building 7. Well, Building 7 was 01:35:02.449 --> 01:35:06.390 housing all sorts of – it was an IRS – I mean 01:35:06.390 --> 01:35:09.449 – NSA. Yeah. It was NSA. What was in Building 01:35:09.449 --> 01:35:13.409 7? Let's find that out so we don't just – I think 01:35:13.409 --> 01:35:16.710 – but there was certainly some intelligence and 01:35:16.710 --> 01:35:18.930 data that was being collected in Building – the 01:35:18.930 --> 01:35:22.010 fact that no one wants to admit that that building 01:35:22.010 --> 01:35:24.670 fell like a controlled demolition is really crazy. 01:35:24.770 --> 01:35:27.319 And again – I'm not saying it's a controlled 01:35:27.319 --> 01:35:29.680 demolition, but the fact that people want to 01:35:29.680 --> 01:35:32.859 say, no, it wasn't like a controlled demolition. 01:35:32.859 --> 01:35:34.680 Like when was the last time you ever saw a fucking 01:35:34.680 --> 01:35:38.060 building collapse like that ever? Only controlled 01:35:38.060 --> 01:35:40.159 demolitions. Yeah. There's been many buildings 01:35:40.159 --> 01:35:42.260 that have been very badly damaged and lit on 01:35:42.260 --> 01:35:44.760 fire, but their frame remains. Reputable structural 01:35:44.760 --> 01:35:47.159 engineers have basically also proven the towers 01:35:47.159 --> 01:35:50.020 could not have fallen the way they fell without 01:35:50.020 --> 01:35:55.079 explosives. pre -planned explosives. And the 01:35:55.079 --> 01:35:57.039 people on the scene, the rescuers on the scene, 01:35:57.199 --> 01:35:59.000 the people who were there said, yeah, I heard 01:35:59.000 --> 01:36:01.119 explosion. Boom, boom, boom, boom. And they're 01:36:01.119 --> 01:36:04.199 describing the sounds of controlled demolition. 01:36:04.460 --> 01:36:08.010 U .S. Secret Service. Floors 9 through 10, CIA, 01:36:08.510 --> 01:36:11.010 the Department of Defense sharing the 25th floor 01:36:11.010 --> 01:36:14.329 with the IRS and the Equal Employment Opportunity 01:36:14.329 --> 01:36:16.210 Commission. Like you put all that together, CIA, 01:36:16.590 --> 01:36:20.750 Department of Defense, IRS. Who thinks any of 01:36:20.750 --> 01:36:24.770 those people have your – Right. Also, if you 01:36:24.770 --> 01:36:27.729 want to destroy data. You want to destroy data. 01:36:28.250 --> 01:36:30.470 Like, didn't the part of the Pentagon that got 01:36:30.470 --> 01:36:33.550 hit wasn't – and that was also a day after Rumsfeld 01:36:33.550 --> 01:36:35.369 was saying that there was trillions of dollars 01:36:35.369 --> 01:36:38.329 that were unaccounted for. Yeah. Didn't the accounting 01:36:38.329 --> 01:36:41.350 part of the Pentagon get hit by that, air quotes, 01:36:41.510 --> 01:36:45.409 plane? Yeah. Yeah, that plane that came in very 01:36:45.409 --> 01:36:48.449 – What's that, Jamie? The building contained 01:36:48.449 --> 01:36:51.869 about 24 ,000 gallons of diesel fuel for generators 01:36:51.869 --> 01:36:53.949 used by tenants like Salomon Brothers and the 01:36:53.949 --> 01:36:57.029 Emergency Command Center. Floors 46 through 47 01:36:57.029 --> 01:36:59.329 and parts of the lower level were mechanical 01:36:59.329 --> 01:37:02.430 spaces, while files from federal investigations, 01:37:02.930 --> 01:37:06.390 Secret Service cases were stored there but lost 01:37:06.390 --> 01:37:10.029 in the collapse. And the SEC. And the SEC. Whoopsies. 01:37:10.090 --> 01:37:13.319 And has the world been the same since then? The 01:37:13.319 --> 01:37:16.659 SEC, like having that there too, boy, that's 01:37:16.659 --> 01:37:19.659 super convenient. Guys, we lost the data. Let's 01:37:19.659 --> 01:37:22.119 just start from scratch. There's no case anymore. 01:37:22.739 --> 01:37:25.560 Whatever they were doing. And yet nobody wants 01:37:25.560 --> 01:37:28.039 to accept it. And nobody cares, actually. What's 01:37:28.039 --> 01:37:30.220 the video of it that is like really shocking? 01:37:30.300 --> 01:37:33.020 I had this really dumb guy on the podcast once 01:37:33.020 --> 01:37:37.220 that was a skeptic, a professional skeptic. And 01:37:37.220 --> 01:37:39.260 he was really angry with me for saying that it 01:37:39.260 --> 01:37:43.159 looked like a controlled demolition. You were 01:37:43.159 --> 01:37:45.460 promoting a dangerous conspiracy theory. I'm 01:37:45.460 --> 01:37:48.779 like, no, I'm saying it looks like you're saying 01:37:48.779 --> 01:37:50.699 it doesn't look in control. Let's watch it. I'm 01:37:50.699 --> 01:37:53.380 like, let's watch it. Conspiracy theorists have 01:37:53.380 --> 01:37:55.300 had a pretty good run lately. Let's watch it. 01:37:55.420 --> 01:37:58.140 Let's watch Building 7 collapse because it's 01:37:58.140 --> 01:38:00.100 kind of kooky. Now, one thing that people do 01:38:00.100 --> 01:38:03.239 point out that is true is that the center, like 01:38:03.239 --> 01:38:06.319 there is a small structure at the top of the 01:38:06.319 --> 01:38:09.579 roof of Building 7 that collapses first. And 01:38:09.579 --> 01:38:12.279 it does it. Like, I think a minute before the 01:38:12.279 --> 01:38:13.920 actual building collapses. Yeah, but these are 01:38:13.920 --> 01:38:15.659 skirt buildings. And what that means is that's 01:38:15.659 --> 01:38:18.300 actually the most structurally sound part of 01:38:18.300 --> 01:38:19.859 the building. The rest of the movie is a facade 01:38:19.859 --> 01:38:21.680 that's hanging off of the inner structure. The 01:38:21.680 --> 01:38:22.939 rest of the building, yeah. Yeah, that's the 01:38:22.939 --> 01:38:25.380 most sound part of the building. It was built 01:38:25.380 --> 01:38:27.920 over a Con Edison substation requiring large 01:38:27.920 --> 01:38:31.119 transfer trusses on lower floors to support the 01:38:31.119 --> 01:38:33.800 tower above, creating long -span floors vulnerable 01:38:33.800 --> 01:38:37.279 to thermal expansion. Long, unsupported floor 01:38:37.279 --> 01:38:40.399 beams and... girders up to 50 feet connected 01:38:40.399 --> 01:38:43.720 to critical in critical interior columns like 01:38:43.720 --> 01:38:46.899 column 79 with sheer studs that failed under 01:38:46.899 --> 01:38:50.420 fire induced lateral loads rather than just gravity 01:38:50.420 --> 01:38:52.699 it was the auto manual flip -flop the exterior 01:38:52.699 --> 01:38:56.260 tube frame provided stiffness but the open interior 01:38:56.260 --> 01:38:59.939 layout lacked redundancy to prevent fire induced 01:38:59.939 --> 01:39:03.439 progressive collapse with connections not designed 01:39:03.439 --> 01:39:09.710 for horizontal thermal forces Okay, that's a 01:39:09.710 --> 01:39:12.609 cute way of saying that's why it fell at freefall 01:39:12.609 --> 01:39:14.569 speed and looks like a controlled demolition. 01:39:14.630 --> 01:39:16.289 Because if that was my building, I would say, 01:39:16.369 --> 01:39:18.689 give me my fucking money back. You made this 01:39:18.689 --> 01:39:20.829 shit -ass building. This building got lit on 01:39:20.829 --> 01:39:23.310 fire and just collapsed on itself. Let's watch 01:39:23.310 --> 01:39:26.310 it collapse. Because the way it collapses is 01:39:26.310 --> 01:39:29.250 so kooky. Because it really does it at freefall 01:39:29.250 --> 01:39:33.800 speed. Or close to it. It's strange. Like, there's 01:39:33.800 --> 01:39:36.359 never been a building that looks that intact 01:39:36.359 --> 01:39:40.800 that falls like that. It's weird, man. I mean, 01:39:40.819 --> 01:39:43.119 it's fucking weird. Anybody that says it's not 01:39:43.119 --> 01:39:47.319 weird, look, this is how it happened. It's weird. 01:39:47.500 --> 01:39:51.279 Now, the planes hitting Tower 1 and Tower 2, 01:39:51.479 --> 01:39:55.279 okay, that makes maybe more sense to me. Does 01:39:55.279 --> 01:39:57.840 it? Yeah. Does it? Yeah, because it fell from 01:39:57.840 --> 01:40:00.760 the top down. Like, it looks normal. It doesn't 01:40:00.760 --> 01:40:04.079 collapse into its base. Tower 7 collapses into 01:40:04.079 --> 01:40:06.140 its base. The way Tower 1 and Tower 2 fell. But 01:40:06.140 --> 01:40:07.119 how about the testimony of people saying they 01:40:07.119 --> 01:40:09.399 heard multiple pop, pop, pop, pop, pop explosions? 01:40:09.619 --> 01:40:12.140 Is that just girders snapping? It could be. Yeah. 01:40:12.260 --> 01:40:14.119 I mean, you've got to think you have immense, 01:40:14.359 --> 01:40:17.390 immense amounts of weight. And it is collapsing. 01:40:17.649 --> 01:40:19.989 So if it does collapse the way it looks it's 01:40:19.989 --> 01:40:21.989 collapsing from the top down, it's not going 01:40:21.989 --> 01:40:23.569 to be silent. You're going to hear tremendous 01:40:23.569 --> 01:40:26.109 explosions when concrete hits the slabs below 01:40:26.109 --> 01:40:28.829 it. It's going to sound like explosions. Also, 01:40:28.909 --> 01:40:31.329 you have the fog of war, right? So you have these 01:40:31.329 --> 01:40:33.550 people that are involved in an extremely traumatic 01:40:33.550 --> 01:40:37.210 situation and their memory is very fucked. Like 01:40:37.210 --> 01:40:39.569 your memory is fucked when you experience something 01:40:39.569 --> 01:40:42.189 like this. You remember things funny. You have 01:40:42.189 --> 01:40:44.510 confirmation bias. There's a lot of weird stuff 01:40:44.510 --> 01:40:47.699 that happens. This is the explanation that a 01:40:47.699 --> 01:40:50.600 piece of the plane falls down and hits that building. 01:40:50.920 --> 01:40:52.300 There's a big tower on top. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:40:52.399 --> 01:40:55.420 I'm sorry. A piece of the building. I meant to 01:40:55.420 --> 01:40:58.119 say. Sorry. So that piece of the building falls 01:40:58.119 --> 01:41:01.859 down and not a plane, obviously, hits the building 01:41:01.859 --> 01:41:04.840 next to it, Tower 7. And that gash is all it 01:41:04.840 --> 01:41:08.359 took to take that building down. That's super 01:41:08.359 --> 01:41:10.239 suspect. And I do know that there was a fire 01:41:10.239 --> 01:41:12.479 inside the building. I'm sure. I'm sure there 01:41:12.479 --> 01:41:17.750 was. But the way it fell was crazy. See, Tower 01:41:17.750 --> 01:41:19.630 1 and Tower 2, it's like, I don't know what happens 01:41:19.630 --> 01:41:22.069 when a jet flies into a building like that, and 01:41:22.069 --> 01:41:24.149 neither do you. And also you've got to deal with 01:41:24.149 --> 01:41:27.949 corrupt construction companies cutting corners, 01:41:28.069 --> 01:41:30.729 not doing things up to code. Perhaps, perhaps. 01:41:31.609 --> 01:41:33.890 I'll give you that. I'll be super charitable. 01:41:34.090 --> 01:41:36.590 But with Building 7, I'm like, come on, man. 01:41:36.689 --> 01:41:39.939 That's weird. That one's fucking weird. Because 01:41:39.939 --> 01:41:43.760 it doesn't fall like 1 and 2. 1 and 2 fall from 01:41:43.760 --> 01:41:46.939 where the impact was, the deterioration of the 01:41:46.939 --> 01:41:49.079 structure, the weight of what's above the impact. 01:41:49.199 --> 01:41:51.760 It falls down on it, and you see a progressive 01:41:51.760 --> 01:41:55.560 collapse from the top to the bottom. Tower 7 01:41:55.560 --> 01:42:00.760 is nuts. Tower 7 just drops, just drops all at 01:42:00.760 --> 01:42:05.939 once, free fall speed into its base. That's weird. 01:42:06.909 --> 01:42:08.989 Anybody that doesn't think that's weird is being 01:42:08.989 --> 01:42:11.949 naive. That's never happened before to a building 01:42:11.949 --> 01:42:14.649 that hasn't been a controlled demolition. Again, 01:42:14.750 --> 01:42:17.390 not saying it's a controlled demolition. Maybe 01:42:17.390 --> 01:42:20.329 it's accurate that these enormous drums of diesel 01:42:20.329 --> 01:42:23.649 are creating this fire, unprecedented load on 01:42:23.649 --> 01:42:26.470 the structure of the building. But even that 01:42:26.470 --> 01:42:28.869 - With everything else that occurred, with all 01:42:28.869 --> 01:42:31.449 the tangential stuff that's occurred, you're 01:42:31.449 --> 01:42:34.430 still giving the benefit of the doubt. You'll 01:42:34.430 --> 01:42:35.890 have suspension of disbelief. But I'm saying 01:42:35.890 --> 01:42:38.850 right now, I was trying to finish. That fire 01:42:38.850 --> 01:42:42.529 is not on every floor uniformly. So why is it 01:42:42.529 --> 01:42:45.390 collapsing uniformly from the top down into the 01:42:45.390 --> 01:42:48.710 base? Why doesn't the base where you have this 01:42:48.710 --> 01:42:51.310 incredible fire load, why doesn't that weaken 01:42:51.310 --> 01:42:53.909 and it fall over sideways because it no longer 01:42:53.909 --> 01:42:57.170 has structure anymore? Why is it every floor 01:42:57.170 --> 01:43:00.710 has the same amount of damage and it gives in 01:43:00.710 --> 01:43:03.279 at the exact same time? That kind of doesn't 01:43:03.279 --> 01:43:05.340 make sense because the fire is not uniform throughout 01:43:05.340 --> 01:43:08.060 the building. It's not like the building is one 01:43:08.060 --> 01:43:11.619 gigantic flame ball and then it all gives out 01:43:11.619 --> 01:43:14.560 at the same time. But even then, I would think 01:43:14.560 --> 01:43:16.920 it would tip over. It would fall to the side, 01:43:17.020 --> 01:43:20.529 falling into its base. That seems to indicate 01:43:20.529 --> 01:43:25.529 some sort of a control. Like it was done uniformly. 01:43:25.649 --> 01:43:28.470 They time it. When you watch like in Vegas when 01:43:28.470 --> 01:43:32.229 they blow up a casino, it's like, and then it 01:43:32.229 --> 01:43:36.090 does that. Let's watch an actual controlled demolition. 01:43:37.590 --> 01:43:40.050 So when you watch an actual controlled demolition, 01:43:40.189 --> 01:43:42.329 it looks just like that. It looks just like that. 01:43:43.029 --> 01:43:45.989 And then I don't know. I mean the testimony of 01:43:45.989 --> 01:43:49.359 your eyes are telling you the truth. But your 01:43:49.359 --> 01:43:53.239 brain will come up with all sorts of stuff because 01:43:53.239 --> 01:43:57.260 mundus volt decepi. Well, I'm not allowing it 01:43:57.260 --> 01:44:00.760 to with Tower 7. I've always maintained a pretty 01:44:00.760 --> 01:44:04.119 open mind with that. But also I lean towards 01:44:04.119 --> 01:44:07.939 shenanigans in that one because that one just 01:44:07.939 --> 01:44:12.300 seems fucked. Tower 1 and Tower 2, maybe, maybe. 01:44:12.460 --> 01:44:16.260 Tower 7, come on. Yeah. Tower 7. Nobody looks. 01:44:16.560 --> 01:44:19.140 And if they're telling you that Tower 7 seems 01:44:19.140 --> 01:44:22.920 normal, they seem so gaslighting. Everybody that 01:44:22.920 --> 01:44:26.079 says that seems like they're gaslighting. So 01:44:26.079 --> 01:44:30.979 here we go. Hit it. Okay. This one, they're setting 01:44:30.979 --> 01:44:32.899 up for a controlled demolition. So they're showing 01:44:32.899 --> 01:44:35.260 you how. That's kind of a shitty one. There's 01:44:35.260 --> 01:44:36.600 other ones that have done a better job with. 01:44:36.760 --> 01:44:39.119 But it's the same kind of thing. It's still falling 01:44:39.119 --> 01:44:42.000 onto itself. Yes. It's falling into itself the 01:44:42.000 --> 01:44:45.560 same way Tower 7 did. That's a different shape. 01:44:45.760 --> 01:44:48.180 That has a skirt building. It's got a center 01:44:48.180 --> 01:44:50.319 structure. Yeah, it's a different kind of structure. 01:44:50.359 --> 01:44:52.300 It has a different look to it. Let's watch that 01:44:52.300 --> 01:44:57.180 one. Okay, like there. Come on. That looks exactly 01:44:57.180 --> 01:45:01.479 like Tower 7. Back that up again a little bit, 01:45:01.539 --> 01:45:03.739 please. Watch that from the top, from the beginning. 01:45:03.939 --> 01:45:06.800 Just a little bit right before it drops. So watch. 01:45:06.920 --> 01:45:08.439 They're looking. They're watching. We're going 01:45:08.439 --> 01:45:11.060 to watch the building drop. There it is. That 01:45:11.060 --> 01:45:13.739 fucker goes right down like Tower. From there, 01:45:13.880 --> 01:45:17.260 come on. That's exactly like a controlled demolition. 01:45:17.380 --> 01:45:20.340 And even the way it looks as it's going down 01:45:20.340 --> 01:45:22.520 looks exactly like Tower. You know, we were talking 01:45:22.520 --> 01:45:25.670 about... predictive programming and how movies 01:45:25.670 --> 01:45:29.050 and like spells can predict stuff in advance 01:45:29.050 --> 01:45:33.670 and, you know, kind of prepare you for the future 01:45:33.670 --> 01:45:37.409 of what's coming. You know, in 1999, a movie 01:45:37.409 --> 01:45:40.189 came out, which was effectively a manifesto. 01:45:40.189 --> 01:45:44.210 And that movie was called Fight Club. And what's 01:45:44.210 --> 01:45:46.090 the end of that movie? The end of that movie 01:45:46.090 --> 01:45:48.289 is the collapsing of the buildings, which are 01:45:48.289 --> 01:45:50.939 the financial system. you know, of the future 01:45:50.939 --> 01:45:53.979 so that they can create a new future. Who produced 01:45:53.979 --> 01:45:57.819 that movie? Arnon Milchan. Who is Arnon Milchan? 01:45:57.899 --> 01:45:59.960 And they got a commercial director to do it, 01:45:59.979 --> 01:46:02.579 Fincher. And, like, he's an excellent director. 01:46:02.840 --> 01:46:05.420 And I think it's an excellently, beautifully 01:46:05.420 --> 01:46:08.239 made film. But who is Arnon Milchan? Well, you 01:46:08.239 --> 01:46:12.300 know, he... himself has said i am a massad agent 01:46:12.300 --> 01:46:15.720 and he said that out loud like that's not me 01:46:15.720 --> 01:46:18.899 saying that that's him saying that and uh fincher 01:46:18.899 --> 01:46:22.020 said oh yeah my last movie oh that was made by 01:46:22.020 --> 01:46:24.399 an arms dealer well that's him that's arnon milshan 01:46:24.399 --> 01:46:28.500 and so you know And what's another Arnon Milchan 01:46:28.500 --> 01:46:32.420 movie? The Medusa Touch with George C. Scott 01:46:32.420 --> 01:46:35.239 and I think Lee Remick. And in that movie, what 01:46:35.239 --> 01:46:37.779 happens? An airplane crashes into a building. 01:46:37.859 --> 01:46:39.619 You could probably pull that one up, too. An 01:46:39.619 --> 01:46:41.680 airplane crashes into a building. This guy's 01:46:41.680 --> 01:46:43.619 obsessed with airplanes crashing into buildings 01:46:43.619 --> 01:46:47.359 and buildings collapsing in movies. And so what's 01:46:47.359 --> 01:46:52.119 likely? Has he been reading the scenario plans 01:46:52.119 --> 01:46:56.020 that defense departments make and that are maybe, 01:46:56.239 --> 01:47:01.420 you know. the Mossad plans that are made. I've 01:47:01.420 --> 01:47:04.420 worked for the DOD through John Milius, and we 01:47:04.420 --> 01:47:06.739 wrote scenarios. They gathered together a bunch 01:47:06.739 --> 01:47:09.659 of Hollywood writers into a, you know, into a, 01:47:09.659 --> 01:47:12.420 what is it, like a conference room, like a, it 01:47:12.420 --> 01:47:14.079 was like more like a ballroom, but like a small 01:47:14.079 --> 01:47:16.720 one, and gathered a bunch of us together around 01:47:16.720 --> 01:47:18.199 a table and said, let's come up with ways on 01:47:18.199 --> 01:47:21.000 how to attack Los Angeles. And we all wrote scenarios 01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:24.819 on how to attack LA. And now they just use AI 01:47:24.819 --> 01:47:29.000 to do all that. But so, you know. So has he just 01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:30.819 been like reading these? Does he have access 01:47:30.819 --> 01:47:33.539 to them? And so he just puts them into his movies. 01:47:33.640 --> 01:47:36.340 Well, that movie was made in 1999. And what happened 01:47:36.340 --> 01:47:38.340 right after that movie got released? Those buildings 01:47:38.340 --> 01:47:41.680 came down. 9 -11 came down. And so is it predictive 01:47:41.680 --> 01:47:44.800 programming where you're showing the world what's 01:47:44.800 --> 01:47:47.720 to come and that makes it almost somewhat acceptable 01:47:47.720 --> 01:47:52.380 to do? Whoa. Or is it just coincidence? And most 01:47:52.380 --> 01:47:54.380 people out there will say, oh, no, it's just 01:47:54.380 --> 01:47:56.100 coincidence. It's coincidence. He just happens 01:47:56.100 --> 01:47:59.079 to be. I mean, that's what he has said. I don't 01:47:59.079 --> 01:48:01.239 know if he is or not, Mossad, but that's what 01:48:01.239 --> 01:48:04.840 he said. Well, that's the thing about the pejorative 01:48:04.840 --> 01:48:08.319 term conspiracy theorist. It's slapped on things 01:48:08.319 --> 01:48:11.579 and it immediately sort of diffuses any real 01:48:11.579 --> 01:48:13.739 questioning of, oh, my God, are things this bad? 01:48:14.489 --> 01:48:18.050 Is there this much? But as time goes on and you're 01:48:18.050 --> 01:48:20.210 confronted with more and more information, and 01:48:20.210 --> 01:48:23.090 I think we're in the beginning stages of reckoning 01:48:23.090 --> 01:48:25.510 with these files that were just released where 01:48:25.510 --> 01:48:29.069 so many people, like, I haven't really read much 01:48:29.069 --> 01:48:31.350 of it. I've only read the things that are really 01:48:31.350 --> 01:48:33.689 outrageous that my friends have sent me because 01:48:33.689 --> 01:48:35.789 I'm just trying to maintain my sanity. Well, 01:48:35.829 --> 01:48:37.489 that's just it. Most people want to maintain 01:48:37.489 --> 01:48:40.710 sanity. I just want to get through the day. You 01:48:40.710 --> 01:48:43.670 know, I just want to like, yeah, well, it's even 01:48:43.670 --> 01:48:45.729 more than busy. I want to be happy. Right. I 01:48:45.729 --> 01:48:48.390 want to raise my children in a in a world that 01:48:48.390 --> 01:48:51.630 is, you know, a peaceful world and where people 01:48:51.630 --> 01:48:54.510 respect each other and where we can like you 01:48:54.510 --> 01:48:56.569 can make something out of yourself, you know, 01:48:56.569 --> 01:48:59.409 through hard work and through merit. You know, 01:48:59.409 --> 01:49:01.430 it's like that's the world I want to live in. 01:49:01.510 --> 01:49:04.329 And more and more, it feels like we're not in 01:49:04.329 --> 01:49:07.109 that world. Did you see that thing that was just 01:49:07.109 --> 01:49:10.149 released today? I think it's the. AI company, 01:49:10.350 --> 01:49:13.529 Anthropic. I think that's the company. So one 01:49:13.529 --> 01:49:17.350 of its engineers resigned and essentially said 01:49:17.350 --> 01:49:20.970 that humanity is doomed and he's going to move 01:49:20.970 --> 01:49:24.630 to the UK and just write poetry and just wait 01:49:24.630 --> 01:49:29.529 it out. Hasn't that guy seen Threads? The UK 01:49:29.529 --> 01:49:31.350 is like one of the most dangerous places to be. 01:49:31.350 --> 01:49:33.329 That's where he's going to wait it out? Well, 01:49:34.109 --> 01:49:35.430 he probably has this romantic idea. Well, when 01:49:35.430 --> 01:49:37.210 he says UK, does he mean like where does he mean? 01:49:37.210 --> 01:49:39.149 I'm not sure. Maybe he means like the Scottish 01:49:39.149 --> 01:49:42.229 Highlands. Maybe he's going to hide and go into 01:49:42.229 --> 01:49:45.010 some small town and fucking just hang out at 01:49:45.010 --> 01:49:47.050 a pub. Yeah, they're going to populate that town 01:49:47.050 --> 01:49:54.100 with... Suddenly 800 war -capable men from another 01:49:54.100 --> 01:49:56.180 country are going to move in and they're going 01:49:56.180 --> 01:49:58.840 to move into the local – Someplace that the West 01:49:58.840 --> 01:50:01.539 has conveniently been bombing and creating refugees 01:50:01.539 --> 01:50:04.100 on. Yeah, creating angry people. Yeah. Yeah, 01:50:04.140 --> 01:50:06.640 and who have – You don't want to think that it's 01:50:06.640 --> 01:50:09.859 all planned out like that. Of course you don't. 01:50:10.300 --> 01:50:12.800 But that was a bit of the exposure of USAID. 01:50:13.100 --> 01:50:16.779 So I, like many people, thought USAID was about 01:50:16.779 --> 01:50:19.939 aid. I thought it was like a beautiful philanthropic 01:50:19.939 --> 01:50:22.020 program where the United States donates money 01:50:22.020 --> 01:50:24.140 to all these poor countries. That's how they 01:50:24.140 --> 01:50:26.579 get food. Like I had Bono on the show. And he's 01:50:26.579 --> 01:50:29.359 like, I've heard that 30 ,000 people have already 01:50:29.359 --> 01:50:31.920 starved to death because of this. 30 million 01:50:31.920 --> 01:50:34.520 people are going to die. And I'm like, OK. But 01:50:34.520 --> 01:50:36.579 do you know how much corruption was involved 01:50:36.579 --> 01:50:39.029 with this? Do you know that? But it's not aid. 01:50:39.289 --> 01:50:41.829 It's the Agency for International Development. 01:50:41.869 --> 01:50:44.170 And mostly what they were doing was regime change 01:50:44.170 --> 01:50:47.510 shit. And Mike Benz laid it out and he said USAID 01:50:47.510 --> 01:50:51.350 was for tasks that were too dirty for the CIA. 01:50:52.569 --> 01:50:55.130 Which is crazy. So like if they've been engineering 01:50:55.130 --> 01:50:59.449 this long game and engineering the collapse of 01:50:59.449 --> 01:51:01.609 legitimate governments all throughout the world, 01:51:01.729 --> 01:51:05.989 bombing places, creating refugees, and then having 01:51:05.989 --> 01:51:09.970 these not just open border policies, but inviting 01:51:09.970 --> 01:51:13.430 and helping people get into countries and then 01:51:13.430 --> 01:51:17.130 giving them money when they get there. So many 01:51:17.130 --> 01:51:19.350 people do not want to admit that that was really 01:51:19.350 --> 01:51:23.630 going on, despite all the evidence. It's designed 01:51:23.630 --> 01:51:28.430 to destroy whatever confidence you have in law 01:51:28.430 --> 01:51:32.069 enforcement, in civilization, in the electoral 01:51:32.069 --> 01:51:35.149 process. What's the answer? OK, so given a choice 01:51:35.149 --> 01:51:40.189 between totalitarianism. or cannibalism, you 01:51:40.189 --> 01:51:42.449 know, which would you prefer? Right, right. You 01:51:42.449 --> 01:51:43.970 take cannibalism because you don't want to be 01:51:43.970 --> 01:51:47.670 eaten. Yeah. No, I mean, you take totalitarianism 01:51:47.670 --> 01:51:49.630 because you don't want to be eaten. I would rather 01:51:49.630 --> 01:51:52.739 not be in the movie The Road. But I feel like 01:51:52.739 --> 01:51:54.479 I turn that one off immediately. I feel like 01:51:54.479 --> 01:51:56.720 we're increasingly in the movie Children of Men. 01:51:56.899 --> 01:52:00.960 And I mean, that's that movie was a pretty accurate 01:52:00.960 --> 01:52:05.079 futurist example of where we're heading. Yeah. 01:52:05.159 --> 01:52:08.840 With collapsing birth rates and at least portions 01:52:08.840 --> 01:52:11.800 of civilization looking at extinction. Yeah. 01:52:11.880 --> 01:52:14.340 And I mean, they're experiencing a totalitarian 01:52:14.340 --> 01:52:17.340 South Korea. Yeah. And what is it? Can you find 01:52:17.340 --> 01:52:20.560 that guy's manifesto? I think Corona is a genius 01:52:20.560 --> 01:52:22.369 for me. that film, I just want to say. Children 01:52:22.369 --> 01:52:26.289 of Men? Yeah. Fantastic movie. So today is my 01:52:26.289 --> 01:52:28.569 last day at Anthropic. I resigned. Here's the 01:52:28.569 --> 01:52:31.289 letter I shared with my colleagues explaining 01:52:31.289 --> 01:52:33.909 my decision. That's a lot to read. What is the 01:52:33.909 --> 01:52:37.250 synopsis? Just ask perplexity what the synopsis 01:52:37.250 --> 01:52:41.649 of what this guy said. Okay. Sharma, who built 01:52:41.649 --> 01:52:44.130 defenses against AI -assisted bioterrorism and 01:52:44.130 --> 01:52:46.930 pushed for transparency on model risks at the 01:52:46.930 --> 01:52:49.229 San Francisco AI firm, announced his resignation 01:52:49.229 --> 01:52:52.609 on Monday. He described struggles to let values 01:52:52.609 --> 01:52:55.069 guide actions amid mounting pressures, planning 01:52:55.069 --> 01:52:58.090 to return to the UK for a poetry degree, and 01:52:58.090 --> 01:53:00.630 step back from the spotlight. His exit follows 01:53:00.630 --> 01:53:03.170 other safety team departures amid Anthropic's 01:53:03.170 --> 01:53:06.470 launch of Clawed Opus 4 .6 and a massive $20 01:53:06.470 --> 01:53:10.850 billion funding round at $300 million. $350 billion 01:53:10.850 --> 01:53:14.250 valuation, fueling debates on balancing safety 01:53:14.250 --> 01:53:19.010 with commercial speed. Okay, but what is he saying 01:53:19.010 --> 01:53:23.869 specifically is the issue? Let's click on that. 01:53:24.069 --> 01:53:26.149 Fuck it. Let's click on his... His AI started 01:53:26.149 --> 01:53:28.430 talking to him and scared the bejesus out of 01:53:28.430 --> 01:53:32.310 him. The safehold. He's part of the guiding of 01:53:32.310 --> 01:53:38.949 the... Damn it, lost the word. Yeah. Buy a weapon. 01:53:39.010 --> 01:53:42.649 Look, this guy's built something and all of a 01:53:42.649 --> 01:53:45.630 sudden he's realizing all the players that are 01:53:45.630 --> 01:53:49.630 funding it are likely, you know, scary, scary 01:53:49.630 --> 01:53:53.390 people. Yeah. Scary people who are all in the 01:53:53.390 --> 01:53:55.850 same club, you know, drinking baby blood and 01:53:55.850 --> 01:54:00.090 awful together. What's awful again? Shit. Meconium. 01:54:00.489 --> 01:54:03.789 Meconium, which is like a thing. Baby poop. Yeah. 01:54:03.909 --> 01:54:06.189 That's in the files. What comes next, I do not 01:54:06.189 --> 01:54:09.130 know. I think fondly of this famous Zen quote, 01:54:09.390 --> 01:54:13.550 not knowing is most intimate. What? My intention 01:54:13.550 --> 01:54:16.130 is to create a space to set aside the structures 01:54:16.130 --> 01:54:19.630 that have held me these past years and see what 01:54:19.630 --> 01:54:21.529 might emerge in their absence. He's already working 01:54:21.529 --> 01:54:25.489 on his poetry right here. feel called to writing 01:54:25.489 --> 01:54:28.270 that addresses and engages fully with the place 01:54:28.270 --> 01:54:33.130 we find ourselves and that places poetic truth 01:54:33.130 --> 01:54:36.409 alongside scientific truth as equally valid ways 01:54:36.409 --> 01:54:39.569 of knowing. It was written for him by AI. Elon 01:54:39.569 --> 01:54:42.149 said something very bizarre recently. He was 01:54:42.149 --> 01:54:44.550 talking about the speed of light, that the speed 01:54:44.550 --> 01:54:48.250 of light cannot be, you can't bypass or exceed 01:54:48.250 --> 01:54:49.710 the speed of light. If you believe Einstein. 01:54:49.750 --> 01:54:53.100 He said, unless we live in a simulation. Or unless 01:54:53.100 --> 01:54:56.560 Einstein was wrong. Right. I mean, a lot of astrophysics 01:54:56.560 --> 01:55:00.859 is based on a false premise that P equals P prime 01:55:00.859 --> 01:55:04.579 and that the sun is like designed a certain way. 01:55:04.640 --> 01:55:06.220 And it's completely wrong. And everything that 01:55:06.220 --> 01:55:08.960 we know about the stars and how we view the nature 01:55:08.960 --> 01:55:12.010 of the universe is. fundamentally incorrect. 01:55:12.430 --> 01:55:17.010 How is it wrong? It's based on this idea of the 01:55:17.010 --> 01:55:20.109 stability of Kelvin temperatures in the sun, 01:55:20.250 --> 01:55:26.609 which is this P equals P prime thing. And the 01:55:26.609 --> 01:55:29.529 guy who invented CAT scan machines, there's sort 01:55:29.529 --> 01:55:35.409 of a Venn diagram overlapping of this photographic 01:55:35.409 --> 01:55:37.550 technique and astrophysics. And what he realized 01:55:37.550 --> 01:55:41.500 is, holy cow. That is not true. And therefore, 01:55:41.659 --> 01:55:44.479 so much of everything that we know about how 01:55:44.479 --> 01:55:50.340 we view the cosmos is incorrect. And so... Now, 01:55:50.420 --> 01:55:52.180 how'd they find out that it was incorrect? Well, 01:55:52.340 --> 01:55:54.899 he's a mathematician. He figured it out. I would 01:55:54.899 --> 01:55:57.399 have to look up his name and everything. And 01:55:57.399 --> 01:55:58.939 what is incorrect about it? Do you remember that? 01:55:59.840 --> 01:56:03.510 Well, it's... at the beginning of astrophysics, 01:56:03.550 --> 01:56:06.289 there is this formula. And if that formula is 01:56:06.289 --> 01:56:09.189 wrong, then the preceding calculations are also 01:56:09.189 --> 01:56:13.289 wrong, or at least off. And so the idea is that, 01:56:13.289 --> 01:56:18.409 you know, what we view is really just a, it's 01:56:18.409 --> 01:56:21.050 kind of a cartoon that's painted for us using 01:56:21.050 --> 01:56:24.270 all these formulas and using radio telescopes. 01:56:24.350 --> 01:56:28.850 And so, you know, it's, things are not as they 01:56:28.850 --> 01:56:32.010 seem. Well, they already have issues with the 01:56:32.010 --> 01:56:34.789 findings from the James Webb telescope. Oh, yeah. 01:56:34.810 --> 01:56:37.670 Well, that's probably part of it. You know, I 01:56:37.670 --> 01:56:41.350 have to say, like, I mean. I'm a provocateur, 01:56:41.489 --> 01:56:46.590 and so I'm always interested in finding that 01:56:46.590 --> 01:56:50.289 which upsets people's, you know, concepts of 01:56:50.289 --> 01:56:52.029 things. And that's partly because I'm a screenwriter 01:56:52.029 --> 01:56:54.970 and I'm looking for these kind of conflicts and 01:56:54.970 --> 01:56:57.649 interesting ideas and stuff like that. So take 01:56:57.649 --> 01:56:59.949 what I'm about to say with a grain of salt. But 01:56:59.949 --> 01:57:03.930 the big one, the biggest conspiracy theory that 01:57:03.930 --> 01:57:08.670 freaks everybody out is Flat Earth. Now, I don't 01:57:08.670 --> 01:57:12.369 know what the Earth is. But experientially, through 01:57:12.369 --> 01:57:15.729 the testimony of the eyes, it is flat. And there 01:57:15.729 --> 01:57:18.770 is very little chance that I will ever in my 01:57:18.770 --> 01:57:22.130 life, or most of us will ever in our life experience 01:57:22.130 --> 01:57:25.369 anything other than what is effectively a flat 01:57:25.369 --> 01:57:31.890 Earth. And the way laser sighting across large 01:57:31.890 --> 01:57:36.449 bodies of water or navigation maps for air travel 01:57:36.449 --> 01:57:40.510 for pilots is always a presumption of a flat 01:57:40.510 --> 01:57:44.789 Earth. It's always in the pilot manuals and on 01:57:44.789 --> 01:57:48.149 maps. How so? Well, if you're flying a jet at 01:57:48.149 --> 01:57:50.550 low altitude, you're not making corrections for 01:57:50.550 --> 01:57:52.630 curvature, even though you're going fast enough 01:57:52.630 --> 01:57:56.039 where you should be. And so what's actually happening 01:57:56.039 --> 01:58:01.340 there? Well, and so the idea is, look, I don't 01:58:01.340 --> 01:58:03.180 know what the world is or what the realm that 01:58:03.180 --> 01:58:07.920 we're in is, but experientially, from my perspective 01:58:07.920 --> 01:58:11.239 in life, it is nothing but it's a flat earth. 01:58:11.340 --> 01:58:13.420 But what about travel routes? Like, what about 01:58:13.420 --> 01:58:15.560 when they fly over Antarctica? What about what 01:58:15.560 --> 01:58:17.880 if they... Don't fly over Antarctica. But you 01:58:17.880 --> 01:58:21.359 can watch the sun rise and fall as you fly. They 01:58:21.359 --> 01:58:23.199 don't even fly from Cape Town to Buenos Aires. 01:58:23.500 --> 01:58:25.720 There's an understanding of the procession of 01:58:25.720 --> 01:58:28.460 the equinoxes. They travel up into the other 01:58:28.460 --> 01:58:30.579 hemisphere and, like, land in London or something 01:58:30.579 --> 01:58:32.520 and then travel back down whenever you're doing 01:58:32.520 --> 01:58:36.819 a flight across the Atlantic. And so, like, when 01:58:36.819 --> 01:58:39.239 you look at it on a flat Earth map, and there 01:58:39.239 --> 01:58:40.220 are plenty of them. Yeah, but there's satellite 01:58:40.220 --> 01:58:42.420 photographs of Earth from space. Those are all 01:58:42.420 --> 01:58:46.899 cartoons. What are you talking about? the NASA, 01:58:46.979 --> 01:58:49.140 the guys who actually do those composites, those 01:58:49.140 --> 01:58:53.539 are composite imagery of... Listen, I am not 01:58:53.539 --> 01:58:55.699 saying that... But it seems like you're saying 01:58:55.699 --> 01:58:58.920 that the Earth is possibly flat. I'm saying experientially. 01:58:59.039 --> 01:59:02.539 Right. But that's a scale. That's a scale issue, 01:59:02.739 --> 01:59:05.340 though. Correct. We're a tiny little thing on 01:59:05.340 --> 01:59:08.399 an enormous thing. Correct. But, you know, snipers 01:59:08.399 --> 01:59:10.699 have to calculate for the curvature of the Earth 01:59:10.699 --> 01:59:14.439 when they shoot. Only the curvature of the landscape 01:59:14.439 --> 01:59:15.840 that they're on. Right. Why do you think the 01:59:15.840 --> 01:59:18.479 landscape curves? The landscape doesn't curve. 01:59:18.859 --> 01:59:22.119 It is a mountainous and uneven. Not always. No. 01:59:22.260 --> 01:59:24.500 On flat plains, you have to do the same thing. 01:59:24.760 --> 01:59:27.659 If you're making a long shot over a flat area, 01:59:27.819 --> 01:59:30.779 like if you had to shoot. Well, then why don't 01:59:30.779 --> 01:59:33.560 pilots make adjustments? I'm not a pilot. I don't 01:59:33.560 --> 01:59:36.340 know. But I do know that when you look at the 01:59:36.340 --> 01:59:39.460 film from the space station, when you look at 01:59:39.460 --> 01:59:42.420 the film from the space station, you see an Earth 01:59:42.420 --> 01:59:46.439 that's not just round, but spinning. I see. Actually, 01:59:46.579 --> 01:59:50.449 the... The space station, you know, the International 01:59:50.449 --> 01:59:53.770 Space Station is actually not high enough to 01:59:53.770 --> 01:59:56.789 see curvature. And what you're seeing is lens, 01:59:56.949 --> 02:00:00.149 you know, the lens distortion. It's not high 02:00:00.149 --> 02:00:02.210 enough to see curvature when you look out into 02:00:02.210 --> 02:00:05.409 the horizon? It's actually even, like, it's very, 02:00:05.569 --> 02:00:07.829 very close to the... Let's look at footage from 02:00:07.829 --> 02:00:11.890 the space station of Earth. So when you see satellite 02:00:11.890 --> 02:00:14.569 images that are taken of the Earth, you think 02:00:14.569 --> 02:00:16.829 they're lying? You think there's this grand conspiracy 02:00:16.829 --> 02:00:18.909 to piece all these pictures together and turn 02:00:18.909 --> 02:00:20.869 it into a circle instead of having it flat? All 02:00:20.869 --> 02:00:23.670 I'm saying is that's the fundamental conspiracy 02:00:23.670 --> 02:00:28.289 theory that unravels everyone. Well, it doesn't 02:00:28.289 --> 02:00:30.609 make any sense because everything that we see 02:00:30.609 --> 02:00:33.569 in the cosmos that's a planetary body is round, 02:00:33.710 --> 02:00:36.829 including stars. So it's all round, except for 02:00:36.829 --> 02:00:40.890 small moons. Everything is round. I'm not even 02:00:40.890 --> 02:00:46.130 certain that space exists. Well, that the moon 02:00:46.130 --> 02:00:49.630 is anything more than a plasma. A plasma? Yeah. 02:00:49.810 --> 02:00:54.399 What does that mean? That it's a... Plasma effect, 02:00:54.520 --> 02:00:56.800 a lenticular effect of some kind. So that it's 02:00:56.800 --> 02:00:59.979 not a real thing, but it affects the tides. It 02:00:59.979 --> 02:01:02.319 is something that we have landed. At the very 02:01:02.319 --> 02:01:04.380 least, we've landed probes on. We don't know 02:01:04.380 --> 02:01:07.020 that it affects the tides. People theorize that 02:01:07.020 --> 02:01:09.060 it affects the tides. So this is footage from 02:01:09.060 --> 02:01:12.970 the space station. This is live footage from 02:01:12.970 --> 02:01:15.789 the space station. And I'm saying that's lens 02:01:15.789 --> 02:01:17.529 curvature and that what you're actually seeing 02:01:17.529 --> 02:01:18.970 - Why do you think that's lens curvature? And 02:01:18.970 --> 02:01:20.829 that what you're seeing is horizon. So what you're 02:01:20.829 --> 02:01:22.170 talking about is like a fisheye lens. I'm saying 02:01:22.170 --> 02:01:24.090 if I'm trying to provoke you, that's what I'm 02:01:24.090 --> 02:01:26.270 saying. Right. But let's not do that right now 02:01:26.270 --> 02:01:28.189 because I don't want you to be completely fucking 02:01:28.189 --> 02:01:31.130 insane because this is a round body just like 02:01:31.130 --> 02:01:33.729 the moon, just like Mars, just like Jupiter, 02:01:33.930 --> 02:01:37.510 just like Uranus. That appears to be a - But 02:01:37.510 --> 02:01:40.189 in your practical life experience, you have - 02:01:40.199 --> 02:01:41.880 You have to accept a certain amount of faith 02:01:41.880 --> 02:01:44.779 is what I'm getting at at any moment. But they 02:01:44.779 --> 02:01:48.939 understand the procession of the equinoxes. Do 02:01:48.939 --> 02:01:50.699 you know that the procession of the equinoxes 02:01:50.699 --> 02:01:54.079 is how they measure the sky over a period of 02:01:54.079 --> 02:01:58.039 26 ,000 years? I see right there a little stitching, 02:01:58.239 --> 02:02:00.939 like right there. So this would just keep going 02:02:00.939 --> 02:02:03.699 straight forever? Do you see that line right 02:02:03.699 --> 02:02:06.520 there? What is that? What is that line? Yeah, 02:02:06.539 --> 02:02:09.439 what is that line? Well, that looks like stitching 02:02:09.439 --> 02:02:11.000 to me. It looks like they've stitched together 02:02:11.000 --> 02:02:12.659 and it crosses over there through that mountain 02:02:12.659 --> 02:02:14.840 range right there. That is weird, whatever that 02:02:14.840 --> 02:02:18.020 is. So by your very example, I'm just saying 02:02:18.020 --> 02:02:19.680 that you have to have a certain amount of faith 02:02:19.680 --> 02:02:22.260 in that. And on the surface, mundus volt decepi. 02:02:22.659 --> 02:02:25.760 Okay, okay. You're freaking me out. Go back to 02:02:25.760 --> 02:02:28.760 that, Jamie. So what is the explanation? Go back 02:02:28.760 --> 02:02:30.220 a little bit. Yeah, what is the explanation of 02:02:30.220 --> 02:02:32.659 that line right there? Right, but how weird is 02:02:32.659 --> 02:02:35.149 that? That is weird that there's this line. Right, 02:02:35.149 --> 02:02:37.390 because that in itself is a composite image, 02:02:37.489 --> 02:02:40.329 a cartoon that has been put together for you 02:02:40.329 --> 02:02:45.029 to look at this apparent live imagery. So is 02:02:45.029 --> 02:02:49.850 this multiple images that are supposedly pieced 02:02:49.850 --> 02:02:51.850 together? Is that what they're – I'm saying that 02:02:51.850 --> 02:02:55.090 things fall into – like the way perspective works 02:02:55.090 --> 02:02:57.729 is that things appear to fall into the horizon. 02:02:58.050 --> 02:03:00.890 But now you use a – what is that camera? Is it 02:03:00.890 --> 02:03:04.250 a P200 camera where you can actually zoom in 02:03:04.250 --> 02:03:06.409 and lift things out of the horizon that have 02:03:06.409 --> 02:03:08.489 appeared to fall into the horizon? This live 02:03:08.489 --> 02:03:10.750 video. This live video feed from the International 02:03:10.750 --> 02:03:12.050 Space Station has been temporarily interrupted. 02:03:12.050 --> 02:03:13.510 Has been interrupted because you're watching 02:03:13.510 --> 02:03:16.170 too much. Due to either a change in the onboard 02:03:16.170 --> 02:03:18.750 camera configuration or a loss of signal with 02:03:18.750 --> 02:03:21.010 the communications network, the video will return 02:03:21.010 --> 02:03:23.010 when the connection is reestablished. So this 02:03:23.010 --> 02:03:25.590 is during the live feed. This isn't from NASA's 02:03:25.590 --> 02:03:27.270 YouTube channel. It's just down right now. It's 02:03:27.270 --> 02:03:30.819 just down right now. Okay. So. You're saying 02:03:30.819 --> 02:03:33.039 that this is like a fisheye effect of a lens. 02:03:33.319 --> 02:03:35.140 Yeah, I'm saying that. Potentially. I'm saying 02:03:35.140 --> 02:03:37.380 that. And that we can even see that whenever 02:03:37.380 --> 02:03:40.819 they're up there shooting with cameras outside, 02:03:41.000 --> 02:03:44.500 you're like, oh, there's the curvature. And then 02:03:44.500 --> 02:03:46.880 every now and then the camera turns and it inverts 02:03:46.880 --> 02:03:48.859 for a moment. Then it goes back down. I've never 02:03:48.859 --> 02:03:52.760 seen that. I watch a lot of NASA stuff. And listen, 02:03:52.859 --> 02:03:54.760 I'm not saying that we're not living on a globe 02:03:54.760 --> 02:03:58.579 or at least an oblate spheroid as Neil deGrasse 02:03:58.579 --> 02:04:00.359 Tyson. and says, but have you ever noticed how 02:04:00.359 --> 02:04:03.239 spasticated that guy gets whenever you throw 02:04:03.239 --> 02:04:06.340 out the word flat earth? He flips out like the 02:04:06.340 --> 02:04:10.560 way Robert De Niro flips out on like irrationally. 02:04:10.560 --> 02:04:13.560 Well, he flips out when you say that men can't 02:04:13.560 --> 02:04:16.500 be women, which is very weird. Yeah, exactly. 02:04:16.500 --> 02:04:18.260 They should be able to compete in women's sports. 02:04:18.909 --> 02:04:21.770 Which is very weird. Like for a man of science, 02:04:21.930 --> 02:04:23.689 that's bonkers. Or that they should be able to 02:04:23.689 --> 02:04:26.989 go to jail and that a sex offender. Fucking insane. 02:04:27.130 --> 02:04:30.069 Not just that, but rapists. Yeah. Like people 02:04:30.069 --> 02:04:32.850 who have raped children. And then they have to 02:04:32.850 --> 02:04:35.850 pay for their electrolysis and breast augmentation, 02:04:36.090 --> 02:04:39.109 which is okay. At what point in time do you say 02:04:39.109 --> 02:04:41.670 that this is some sort of a bizarre agenda that 02:04:41.670 --> 02:04:44.289 you're trying to get us to accept something that 02:04:44.289 --> 02:04:46.850 doesn't make any fucking sense? So much so that 02:04:46.850 --> 02:04:50.079 you're willing to how. male prisoners in with 02:04:50.079 --> 02:04:52.479 females because they say they're a male with 02:04:52.479 --> 02:04:54.640 an intact penis and then even after they get 02:04:54.640 --> 02:04:58.729 like female prisoners pregnant or rape them We're 02:04:58.729 --> 02:05:01.649 all just trying to construct what reality is. 02:05:01.869 --> 02:05:05.930 And it tends to be a consensus of what it is. 02:05:06.029 --> 02:05:08.729 But, you know, there are fringes that on the 02:05:08.729 --> 02:05:11.170 ends that don't believe with what the consensus 02:05:11.170 --> 02:05:14.050 says. Are they wrong? But do you know how many 02:05:14.050 --> 02:05:16.430 people would have to be involved to promulgate 02:05:16.430 --> 02:05:20.140 this idea that there's a flat earth? And you 02:05:20.140 --> 02:05:22.239 got to cover up that thing and pretend it's round? 02:05:22.399 --> 02:05:24.800 And what's the motivation of covering up the 02:05:24.800 --> 02:05:27.659 fact that the earth is flat? I mean, if we're 02:05:27.659 --> 02:05:29.619 really fundamentally getting down to it, it's 02:05:29.619 --> 02:05:32.199 about God. And it's about what is this realm 02:05:32.199 --> 02:05:37.039 that we're in? And are we part of creation? But 02:05:37.039 --> 02:05:40.920 why would it be more likely God if it was flat? 02:05:41.000 --> 02:05:44.220 Every culture throughout recorded history draws 02:05:44.220 --> 02:05:48.060 us in this kind of... flat, earthish environment 02:05:48.060 --> 02:05:52.439 with a dome, a firmament that covers it up until 02:05:52.439 --> 02:05:55.140 like when, the 1930s or so? Right, when they 02:05:55.140 --> 02:05:58.340 start making telescopes. Well, and... Right, 02:05:58.340 --> 02:06:01.560 I mean, so this is a grand conspiracy, like Galileo 02:06:01.560 --> 02:06:03.760 was wrong, Copernicus was wrong, all these people 02:06:03.760 --> 02:06:05.300 didn't know. All of recorded history is wrong. 02:06:05.880 --> 02:06:09.680 And, I mean, the other option is that we are 02:06:09.680 --> 02:06:13.000 just specks of nothing. floating around in an 02:06:13.000 --> 02:06:16.939 endless, vast nothing that goes on forever and 02:06:16.939 --> 02:06:19.319 that you are completely insignificant, that you 02:06:19.319 --> 02:06:22.140 are not God's perfect creation, which I think 02:06:22.140 --> 02:06:25.359 you are. Well, they're not mutually exclusive. 02:06:25.680 --> 02:06:29.439 Just because we are in this vast cosmos that's 02:06:29.439 --> 02:06:34.239 almost impossible for mammal minds to grasp the 02:06:34.239 --> 02:06:36.899 magnitude of it doesn't mean that God's not real. 02:06:37.100 --> 02:06:40.579 It's exclusive to people who believe the Bible 02:06:40.579 --> 02:06:43.279 word for word. I'm not saying I do necessarily. 02:06:43.600 --> 02:06:50.779 I would be considered apostate by most people. 02:06:50.899 --> 02:06:53.260 I've been reading the Bible a lot. And one of 02:06:53.260 --> 02:06:56.159 the problems that I find is it's clearly got 02:06:56.159 --> 02:06:58.359 the hand of man on it. Well, it's been edited. 02:06:58.520 --> 02:07:00.300 Yes. It's been edited. You know, the King James, 02:07:00.399 --> 02:07:03.699 who was King James? He wrote books on demons 02:07:03.699 --> 02:07:08.260 as well. Well, even the Old Testament. The Old 02:07:08.260 --> 02:07:10.239 Testament has the hand of man on it. Not just 02:07:10.239 --> 02:07:12.500 that, but it's also been translated so many different 02:07:12.500 --> 02:07:15.859 times. Like ancient Hebrew, the letters double 02:07:15.859 --> 02:07:17.979 as numbers. There's no numbers in ancient Hebrew. 02:07:18.119 --> 02:07:21.500 So words have numerical value to them. And imagine 02:07:21.500 --> 02:07:25.760 translating such a complex language where like 02:07:25.760 --> 02:07:28.960 the word God and the word love, they have the 02:07:28.960 --> 02:07:32.000 same numerical value. I believe. Here's another 02:07:32.000 --> 02:07:33.779 thing. I've read that. I don't know if it's true. 02:07:33.899 --> 02:07:36.239 So let me find out if that's true. Put that into 02:07:36.239 --> 02:07:39.060 perplexity. There's a lot of weird stuff in the 02:07:39.060 --> 02:07:44.060 Bible. In Genesis, when the Nephilim come down 02:07:44.060 --> 02:07:47.100 and they find women comely. And so they're like, 02:07:47.260 --> 02:07:50.560 okay, what's actually going on there? These angels 02:07:50.560 --> 02:07:54.850 or Nephilim are coming down and they're... taking 02:07:54.850 --> 02:07:58.229 women from men and having sex with them and then 02:07:58.229 --> 02:08:03.130 creating, you know, hybrid offspring. When Representative 02:08:03.130 --> 02:08:06.090 Anna Paulina Luna was here, she told me about 02:08:06.090 --> 02:08:07.430 the Book of Enoch. She's like, you have to read 02:08:07.430 --> 02:08:08.810 that. Have you ever read it? I don't know. So 02:08:08.810 --> 02:08:11.989 I read it. Have you seen The Carpenter's Son, 02:08:12.130 --> 02:08:16.050 the Nicolas Cage movie? No. Incredible. What 02:08:16.050 --> 02:08:17.670 did I just have you look up, though, before I 02:08:17.670 --> 02:08:19.270 lose my train of thought? That King James Bible 02:08:19.270 --> 02:08:22.949 thing. What? That's what I was trying to ask 02:08:22.949 --> 02:08:24.470 specifically. Which part did you want to ask 02:08:24.470 --> 02:08:28.250 about? No, what I asked you was ancient Hebrew. 02:08:28.470 --> 02:08:30.369 So the letters also double as numbers. Yeah, 02:08:30.369 --> 02:08:31.489 the letters double as numbers. That's what that 02:08:31.489 --> 02:08:34.069 movie Pi is all about. And that the word love 02:08:34.069 --> 02:08:36.149 and the word God have the same numerical value. 02:08:36.329 --> 02:08:40.470 I'm very certain that that's true, but I want 02:08:40.470 --> 02:08:42.229 to really double check. Well, numerology exists 02:08:42.229 --> 02:08:46.680 around us. And, you know, everything seems to 02:08:46.680 --> 02:08:49.720 have a kind of – that's what the Aronofsky film 02:08:49.720 --> 02:08:52.600 Pie was kind of all about. That was a great movie. 02:08:52.699 --> 02:08:55.180 Yeah. It's a very – He's a very interesting film. 02:08:55.180 --> 02:08:56.399 There was also a really fascinating statement 02:08:56.399 --> 02:08:59.399 by this mathematician. We talked about it on 02:08:59.399 --> 02:09:04.100 a recent podcast was that how strange is it that 02:09:04.100 --> 02:09:07.720 we find out that the universe is made out of 02:09:07.720 --> 02:09:11.800 math. And that it's encoded in the universe itself. 02:09:11.899 --> 02:09:16.859 So a tool that we used, that human beings created 02:09:16.859 --> 02:09:19.979 to measure the universe, it turns out that that 02:09:19.979 --> 02:09:23.319 tool is how the universe is actually encoded. 02:09:23.460 --> 02:09:25.260 Well, this gets back to what Elon is saying about 02:09:25.260 --> 02:09:28.600 the world being a simulation. I mean, what is 02:09:28.600 --> 02:09:32.359 a simulation? So it says no in ancient Hebrew, 02:09:32.619 --> 02:09:36.279 whatever that word is, gematria. No direct name 02:09:36.279 --> 02:09:38.800 of God shares the exact same numerical value 02:09:38.800 --> 02:09:42.300 as the word for love. So what is the basis of 02:09:42.300 --> 02:09:47.319 that rumor? Sacred name equals 26. A name for 02:09:47.319 --> 02:09:52.960 God equals 86. Okay. Is there a word for God? 02:09:53.260 --> 02:09:56.680 Elohim. Does that have the same? It's a name. 02:09:56.920 --> 02:10:01.600 Right. What is the value of... Click on that. 02:10:02.000 --> 02:10:04.680 Below that, where it says, what is the gematric? 02:10:04.939 --> 02:10:08.039 What's that word? I had to look it up. Gematria. 02:10:08.420 --> 02:10:11.539 Gematria. Primary Jewish mysticism. Oh, Kabbalah. 02:10:11.579 --> 02:10:13.680 Yeah. Religious studies define hidden spiritual 02:10:13.680 --> 02:10:16.899 meanings in sacred texts. Okay. It is fascinating 02:10:16.899 --> 02:10:20.359 that there's numerical value in words. There's 02:10:20.359 --> 02:10:21.739 no way you're going to get that when you translate 02:10:21.739 --> 02:10:26.220 it to Latin. Or Greek. That is a value of 86. 02:10:26.520 --> 02:10:31.159 And what is love's value? What is the ancient 02:10:31.159 --> 02:10:36.439 Hebrew word for love? What is the ancient Hebrew 02:10:36.439 --> 02:10:45.199 word for love? What you mean by love is going 02:10:45.199 --> 02:10:47.539 to be very... You have to say, do you mean like 02:10:47.539 --> 02:10:50.260 love between two people? Okay, what is the Gementria? 02:10:50.260 --> 02:10:52.779 Love that doggy in the window. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 02:10:52.880 --> 02:10:54.279 That's a good point. That's a good point. You 02:10:54.279 --> 02:10:55.699 probably have different words for it. Definitely. 02:10:56.039 --> 02:10:58.939 So what is that? Click on that. What's the Gementria 02:10:58.939 --> 02:11:03.180 value of Avala? Right there? Right there? Yeah. 02:11:03.640 --> 02:11:10.020 Click on that. It's 13. So that's a different 02:11:10.020 --> 02:11:14.810 number too. Interesting. 13 twice equals 26, 02:11:15.250 --> 02:11:20.529 the value of Yahweh. Huh. This movie, The Carpenter's 02:11:20.529 --> 02:11:23.170 Son, is all about the infancy of Jesus, I think 02:11:23.170 --> 02:11:26.789 is written by Matthew. And it's part of these, 02:11:26.970 --> 02:11:35.390 I may have this wrong, but Coptic texts. And 02:11:35.390 --> 02:11:39.390 it is like, Nicolas Cage is so good in this movie. 02:11:40.430 --> 02:11:45.850 So twice 13 equals 26, the value of Yahweh implying 02:11:45.850 --> 02:11:50.569 love mirrors or completes God's essence. Okay. 02:11:50.630 --> 02:11:52.130 So that's where that comes from. I was going 02:11:52.130 --> 02:11:53.810 to ask where it came from. Right. That's where 02:11:53.810 --> 02:11:56.130 it comes from. God is love. So God is love. So 02:11:56.130 --> 02:12:02.010 love twice is God. So here's a question. What 02:12:02.010 --> 02:12:07.090 happened? I understand. I understand. Go to ask 02:12:07.090 --> 02:12:14.350 a follow -up. How was the numerical value of 02:12:14.350 --> 02:12:19.069 ancient Hebrew language lost when they translated 02:12:19.069 --> 02:12:22.149 it to Latin? To Greek. To Greek first, right? 02:12:23.029 --> 02:12:27.270 How is the numerical value of ancient Hebrew 02:12:27.270 --> 02:12:37.029 words lost when they translated it to Greek? 02:12:38.220 --> 02:12:41.500 Because it seems like if the it's not just context, 02:12:41.560 --> 02:12:43.859 like what is your word for that? Like the word 02:12:43.859 --> 02:12:48.460 meant a different thing to them. You know, numerical 02:12:48.460 --> 02:12:51.000 values of ancient Hebrew words calculated via 02:12:51.000 --> 02:12:56.220 germatria were letters double as numbers was 02:12:56.220 --> 02:13:01.079 not preserved in Greek translations. Hebrew letters 02:13:01.079 --> 02:13:04.279 inherently carry fixed numerical values, enabling 02:13:04.279 --> 02:13:08.920 word sums. Greek letters have their own values. 02:13:10.319 --> 02:13:12.800 Equivalents rarely match Hebrew sums exactly. 02:13:13.039 --> 02:13:15.119 So you're going to lose it. Like, you know, when 02:13:15.119 --> 02:13:18.760 you read like Russian translations of English 02:13:18.760 --> 02:13:21.020 or English to Russian, it gets like super screwy. 02:13:21.020 --> 02:13:23.380 For sure. For sure. Is this for sure like real? 02:13:23.500 --> 02:13:29.689 Ancient Spanish. It's incredibly difficult. All 02:13:29.689 --> 02:13:31.770 words mean another number that all have some 02:13:31.770 --> 02:13:34.770 sort of secret meaning. Runic writing from the 02:13:34.770 --> 02:13:37.489 Nordics is the same thing. And there is a striking 02:13:37.489 --> 02:13:40.890 resemblance between many of the runes with Hebrew. 02:13:41.210 --> 02:13:44.750 And so these ideas and these glyphs and symbols 02:13:44.750 --> 02:13:47.909 that Odin first saw while hanging upside down 02:13:47.909 --> 02:13:50.829 from the tree and learned language and how to 02:13:50.829 --> 02:13:54.329 speak are somewhat universal across the planet. 02:13:54.510 --> 02:13:55.970 Let's get to that for a second. But let's find 02:13:55.970 --> 02:13:59.369 out what Jamie's saying. primarily used in Jewish 02:13:59.369 --> 02:14:02.649 mysticism and religious studies to find hidden 02:14:02.649 --> 02:14:05.029 spiritual meanings in sacred texts like Torah 02:14:05.029 --> 02:14:07.729 by assigning numerical values to Hebrew letters 02:14:07.729 --> 02:14:10.109 and words, revealing connections between concepts 02:14:10.109 --> 02:14:12.770 and exploring the universe's underlying structure. 02:14:13.149 --> 02:14:15.529 What's interesting is like it's an older language, 02:14:15.729 --> 02:14:17.850 but doesn't that seem like a more complex language, 02:14:17.930 --> 02:14:21.829 a language that combines numerical value with 02:14:21.829 --> 02:14:26.779 words? Like if you said something to me, it's 02:14:26.779 --> 02:14:30.640 not just implied by your tone or by the context 02:14:30.640 --> 02:14:32.539 of what you're saying that I understand what 02:14:32.539 --> 02:14:36.119 it means to you. But it's in the numerical value 02:14:36.119 --> 02:14:38.079 of the words. That seems like a better way to 02:14:38.079 --> 02:14:42.500 communicate than just nouns and verbs and adverbs. 02:14:42.640 --> 02:14:45.960 Rather than bifurcating numbers and letters together. 02:14:46.140 --> 02:14:48.939 It sounds like a way better move. I mean, doesn't 02:14:48.939 --> 02:14:51.460 it? It seems like. If you can understand that 02:14:51.460 --> 02:14:53.859 and if you grew up with that, that seems like 02:14:53.859 --> 02:14:57.119 that would be a much richer and deeper way of 02:14:57.119 --> 02:14:59.020 communicating. Isaac Asimov wrote a book called 02:14:59.020 --> 02:15:02.199 Asimov on Numbers, which is fantastic, which 02:15:02.199 --> 02:15:03.880 talks about this. And he talks about Kalahari 02:15:03.880 --> 02:15:06.899 Bushmen who have no concept of the number zero 02:15:06.899 --> 02:15:11.229 and how they process and understand. Concepts 02:15:11.229 --> 02:15:15.069 like, you know, when no one is around, you know, 02:15:15.069 --> 02:15:17.149 if the village is empty and things like that. 02:15:17.270 --> 02:15:20.130 And so just different people are just trying 02:15:20.130 --> 02:15:24.970 to figure out how to articulate everything. Computer 02:15:24.970 --> 02:15:28.149 programming is a language that utilizes numbers. 02:15:28.510 --> 02:15:30.710 It's weird when there's like certain languages 02:15:30.710 --> 02:15:33.789 that don't have a word for something. So people 02:15:33.789 --> 02:15:36.670 really grasp. They have a hard time grasping 02:15:36.670 --> 02:15:39.250 what the fuck you're trying to say. What's the 02:15:39.250 --> 02:15:41.689 translation for this? We don't have a word for 02:15:41.689 --> 02:15:44.270 that. We don't understand the concept of empathy. 02:15:44.729 --> 02:15:48.350 Well, there's certain cultures that are like 02:15:48.350 --> 02:15:52.949 tribal cultures that can't understand the concept 02:15:52.949 --> 02:15:54.960 of maintenance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't 02:15:54.960 --> 02:15:57.180 have it. I've heard that. Yeah, which is weird. 02:15:57.359 --> 02:15:58.960 Like you think about it like, oh, right. Why 02:15:58.960 --> 02:16:00.699 would they need maintenance? Right. Why would 02:16:00.699 --> 02:16:02.079 they need maintenance? If you live a subsistence 02:16:02.079 --> 02:16:04.060 lifestyle, you live off the land, you don't need 02:16:04.060 --> 02:16:05.659 maintenance. And then suddenly you're thrust 02:16:05.659 --> 02:16:09.399 into the 21st century and the Chinese are building 02:16:09.399 --> 02:16:12.140 highways for you. And the highways collapse. 02:16:12.300 --> 02:16:13.659 Yeah, and the highways just collapse because 02:16:13.659 --> 02:16:17.140 no one's maintaining it. Right. Yeah. It's interesting. 02:16:17.579 --> 02:16:25.279 But it's interesting when - Iron Age or – and 02:16:25.279 --> 02:16:27.619 dropping them suddenly into – So to take this 02:16:27.619 --> 02:16:29.920 back to this idea that we're missing 1 ,000 years. 02:16:30.039 --> 02:16:32.760 So if we really are missing this one – there's 02:16:32.760 --> 02:16:35.219 two things I want to get to that. Added 1 ,000 02:16:35.219 --> 02:16:36.979 years. Yeah, yeah. Added 1 ,000 years. I really 02:16:36.979 --> 02:16:41.139 want to get to that and – well, I meant by missing 02:16:41.139 --> 02:16:43.239 like they don't exist in the real world. Right, 02:16:43.319 --> 02:16:44.840 right. I want to get to that and I want to get 02:16:44.840 --> 02:16:46.959 to is there a conventional explanation for that 02:16:46.959 --> 02:16:51.229 stitching, why that image – What is the mainstream? 02:16:51.670 --> 02:16:53.709 I've got to dig up what we're even looking at. 02:16:53.850 --> 02:16:56.290 Right. It was not the NASA channel we were looking 02:16:56.290 --> 02:16:58.909 at. I can dig down that rabbit hole. What were 02:16:58.909 --> 02:17:01.309 we looking at? I've tried to pick up a video 02:17:01.309 --> 02:17:03.610 of the live. You know, the globe imagery that. 02:17:03.750 --> 02:17:06.069 Hold on a second. So that image might not have 02:17:06.069 --> 02:17:07.770 been an official image. That might have been 02:17:07.770 --> 02:17:09.409 something that someone created. I'm not saying 02:17:09.409 --> 02:17:12.709 that. Well, let me retract so words aren't taken 02:17:12.709 --> 02:17:14.950 out of context. I'm just saying it seemed like 02:17:14.950 --> 02:17:19.270 a live video. It was live on YouTube. Oh, but 02:17:19.270 --> 02:17:22.030 it could have been AI or shit. Yeah, I have to 02:17:22.030 --> 02:17:23.569 go back to look at the chart. I'm working fast 02:17:23.569 --> 02:17:27.190 over here. No, I get it, dog. I get it. Jamie, 02:17:28.010 --> 02:17:30.770 you do the job of 15 dudes, so I appreciate what 02:17:30.770 --> 02:17:32.770 you do. I found a video from 11 years ago on 02:17:32.770 --> 02:17:35.969 Vimeo that is from SpaceX, so it's not NASA. 02:17:36.010 --> 02:17:39.010 It's someone else, and it's up and down of the 02:17:39.010 --> 02:17:41.530 rocket. You can argue all day that it's got curvature. 02:17:41.629 --> 02:17:42.930 It doesn't have curvature. When you see a rocket 02:17:42.930 --> 02:17:45.190 launch, what does it do? It goes kind of sideways 02:17:45.190 --> 02:17:48.969 across the sky. And so, like, we've now seen 02:17:48.969 --> 02:17:51.129 that, you know, pretty regularly. And that's 02:17:51.129 --> 02:17:53.110 because they're really not going above the troposphere. 02:17:53.549 --> 02:17:57.610 Well, I watched the SpaceX launch live. I was 02:17:57.610 --> 02:17:59.750 there. It went straight up in the air. And then 02:17:59.750 --> 02:18:01.909 it curves and it travels sideways across the 02:18:01.909 --> 02:18:03.350 sky until it meets the horizon. Well, it gets 02:18:03.350 --> 02:18:05.870 to a certain orbit and then it traveled and dropped 02:18:05.870 --> 02:18:09.049 off in Australia 35 minutes later. But out of 02:18:09.049 --> 02:18:13.500 your view. No. I watched the entire thing from 02:18:13.500 --> 02:18:16.020 the command center. I watched it from like 24 02:18:16.020 --> 02:18:18.700 different cameras. But how high did it go? Did 02:18:18.700 --> 02:18:22.860 it go above the troposphere? Not likely. What 02:18:22.860 --> 02:18:26.700 is the troposphere? How many miles is that up? 02:18:26.799 --> 02:18:30.399 This is low Earth orbit. Right. But at low Earth 02:18:30.399 --> 02:18:32.459 orbit, Jesus Christ, that looks like a globe, 02:18:32.559 --> 02:18:35.260 huh? But watch as the camera rotates. This is 02:18:35.260 --> 02:18:36.860 also an edited video. I don't want to get stuck 02:18:36.860 --> 02:18:41.899 in this fucking space. As Elon would say, it's 02:18:41.899 --> 02:18:44.219 real because it looks fake. Or when it looks 02:18:44.219 --> 02:18:46.180 fake, that's when you know it's real. Say that 02:18:46.180 --> 02:18:50.420 about Bigfoot then, bitch. Because Bigfoot looks 02:18:50.420 --> 02:18:54.079 fake as fuck and it's definitely not real. You 02:18:54.079 --> 02:18:55.559 know what's real? That Turkish sharpshooter. 02:18:55.600 --> 02:18:59.420 That dude was a G up in the corner. Press play. 02:18:59.559 --> 02:19:01.659 See what this is supposed to be. It cuts. It 02:19:01.659 --> 02:19:05.700 cuts. Okay. Oh, I see, I see. So it cuts a bunch 02:19:05.700 --> 02:19:07.399 of different images. Now you can actually see 02:19:07.399 --> 02:19:11.420 an inversion occurring on the horizon right there. 02:19:11.479 --> 02:19:12.940 Oh, you're only seeing a small piece of it. Correct, 02:19:13.020 --> 02:19:14.920 but the lens distortion on the side of the frame 02:19:14.920 --> 02:19:19.500 is causing the horizon there to invert, and that's 02:19:19.500 --> 02:19:21.559 because of lens distortion. I see what you're 02:19:21.559 --> 02:19:23.700 saying. It is. And the fact of the matter is, 02:19:23.780 --> 02:19:26.659 even at the height that these are orbiting at, 02:19:26.739 --> 02:19:29.940 and I'm not saying like presuming a globular 02:19:29.940 --> 02:19:35.260 planet, even the word planet, plane, it's like 02:19:35.260 --> 02:19:43.299 a plane, or the horizon is horizontal. Even presuming 02:19:43.299 --> 02:19:45.799 that, the height that they're at right now, you 02:19:45.799 --> 02:19:51.739 would still only see a circular. You would see 02:19:51.739 --> 02:19:54.680 the limit of your vision. Because it's so massive. 02:19:54.899 --> 02:19:57.459 Yeah, because it's so massive. You're still not 02:19:57.459 --> 02:20:01.500 high enough to truly see curvature. If we are 02:20:01.500 --> 02:20:04.479 in a simulation and if consciousness affects 02:20:04.479 --> 02:20:07.600 the reality of things and they are only real 02:20:07.600 --> 02:20:10.760 if we are experiencing them. that's when things 02:20:10.760 --> 02:20:13.200 get really squirrely. The testimony of your eyes. 02:20:13.360 --> 02:20:15.860 Like, I know that I am here right now. Not just 02:20:15.860 --> 02:20:18.440 the testimony of your eyes, but your consciousness 02:20:18.440 --> 02:20:21.979 interacting with reality is what creates it. 02:20:22.479 --> 02:20:25.440 Correct. That's where things get super squirrely. 02:20:25.440 --> 02:20:27.659 How do you know gravity exists, for example? 02:20:27.840 --> 02:20:29.780 Well, gravity is not clearly defined. Correct. 02:20:29.840 --> 02:20:32.020 We understand the numbers. Gravity is a concept, 02:20:32.100 --> 02:20:35.469 and it's a non... truly non -provable concept 02:20:35.469 --> 02:20:37.569 because you can prove the exact same thing through 02:20:37.569 --> 02:20:40.409 density and buoyancy. You know, the density and 02:20:40.409 --> 02:20:42.309 buoyancy, you know, make a lot of sense. How 02:20:42.309 --> 02:20:47.149 come the oceans, you know, react the way they 02:20:47.149 --> 02:20:52.409 do and don't, you know, it's not necessarily 02:20:52.409 --> 02:20:55.290 provable, but it's believable. You come to a 02:20:55.290 --> 02:20:56.750 certain point where you're like, okay, faith 02:20:56.750 --> 02:21:00.629 takes over at this point. My faith in that, in 02:21:00.629 --> 02:21:04.819 gravity, my faith in the globe. because that's 02:21:04.819 --> 02:21:08.120 what's been told to me since I was a baby, at 02:21:08.120 --> 02:21:10.139 a certain point that just takes over. Not just 02:21:10.139 --> 02:21:12.559 that. And you accept that as a fundamental piece 02:21:12.559 --> 02:21:14.520 of what reality is because we want to believe 02:21:14.520 --> 02:21:17.479 we understand the universe. What I'm saying is 02:21:17.479 --> 02:21:20.319 we don't understand jack shit about the universe. 02:21:20.440 --> 02:21:24.290 We don't know anything. And all we do is we believe 02:21:24.290 --> 02:21:28.690 what they tell us. And they is just the cumulative 02:21:28.690 --> 02:21:31.729 understanding of how things are. But in ancient 02:21:31.729 --> 02:21:33.790 times, they had a different understanding of 02:21:33.790 --> 02:21:37.340 things. And that was how it was back then. And 02:21:37.340 --> 02:21:39.299 so because they had no other way to describe. 02:21:39.420 --> 02:21:41.940 Right. But even then, the reality is just built 02:21:41.940 --> 02:21:45.420 things based on where the sun was going to be 02:21:45.420 --> 02:21:48.559 during the solar equinox. They also were aware 02:21:48.559 --> 02:21:51.040 of the procession of the equinoxes, which is 02:21:51.040 --> 02:21:54.280 the wobble of Earth's orbit. So Earth spinning 02:21:54.280 --> 02:21:57.920 around doesn't spin perfectly. There is a 26 02:21:57.920 --> 02:22:00.719 ,000 year wobble. You could predict it by the 02:22:00.719 --> 02:22:04.899 night sky. Somehow Polaris remains centered in 02:22:04.899 --> 02:22:07.989 the sky and all stars. rotate around it. That's 02:22:07.989 --> 02:22:09.909 extraordinary. If we're traveling— What do you 02:22:09.909 --> 02:22:12.170 mean? So during the precession of the equinoxes 02:22:12.170 --> 02:22:16.309 over a 26 ,000 -year cycle, Polaris remains in 02:22:16.309 --> 02:22:18.209 the exact same spot? Supposedly that's because 02:22:18.209 --> 02:22:21.010 that's where we're flying towards as a solar 02:22:21.010 --> 02:22:23.350 system as we travel through the galaxy. Right, 02:22:23.350 --> 02:22:26.170 but with the precession of the equinoxes, this 02:22:26.170 --> 02:22:29.129 wobble over a 26 ,000 -year period, it will move 02:22:29.129 --> 02:22:33.690 in the sky. Well, the point of Polaris will always 02:22:33.690 --> 02:22:37.299 remain where it is, directly to the north. The 02:22:37.299 --> 02:22:40.379 perspective of it will vary depending upon where 02:22:40.379 --> 02:22:43.120 we are in this 26 ,000 -year cycle. It undergoes 02:22:43.120 --> 02:22:47.319 a kind of penumbra of sorts, a kind of motion 02:22:47.319 --> 02:22:50.000 of sorts. It changes. A figure -eight motion 02:22:50.000 --> 02:22:52.219 through time. It changes. Look at it. It says 02:22:52.219 --> 02:22:56.030 right here. Due to the 26 ,000 -year axial precession 02:22:56.030 --> 02:22:58.950 cycle, the North Star changes over millennia. 02:22:58.950 --> 02:23:02.649 While Polaris is the current North Star, other 02:23:02.649 --> 02:23:05.329 stars have held this position, including Thuban, 02:23:05.590 --> 02:23:09.770 3000 BC, and future stars will include Arai, 02:23:09.770 --> 02:23:15.709 Alderman, and Vega. So it's not the same star. 02:23:16.090 --> 02:23:19.709 It's just what is dependent upon where we are 02:23:19.709 --> 02:23:22.549 in the precession of the equinoxes. That's why. 02:23:23.100 --> 02:23:25.079 Well, there it is. It's not that the Earth is 02:23:25.079 --> 02:23:26.680 flat. I know it's true because it's on Google. 02:23:26.700 --> 02:23:28.899 But it's not just that. We know where they've 02:23:28.899 --> 02:23:31.860 been able to accurately predict the motion of 02:23:31.860 --> 02:23:33.600 the precession of the equinoxes based on the 02:23:33.600 --> 02:23:35.940 constellations, which are clearly mapped out. 02:23:36.020 --> 02:23:39.340 So we understand this wobble. And this wobble 02:23:39.340 --> 02:23:42.860 may be responsible for cycles of Earth's climate, 02:23:43.159 --> 02:23:46.159 how things change and be dependent upon where 02:23:46.159 --> 02:23:50.059 the equator sits and where these poles sit and 02:23:50.059 --> 02:23:51.979 how it wiggles around. Remember when we were 02:23:51.979 --> 02:23:54.260 younger, the sun was kind of yellow and orange 02:23:54.260 --> 02:23:57.610 and now it's just like white? But reality is 02:23:57.610 --> 02:23:59.690 changing. I mean, things change. The sun looks 02:23:59.690 --> 02:24:01.889 exactly the same to me. It does? Yeah. You think 02:24:01.889 --> 02:24:04.010 the sun is the same? To me, it's... I think pollution 02:24:04.010 --> 02:24:06.530 has affected it somewhat, especially if you live 02:24:06.530 --> 02:24:08.370 in L .A. Well, there used to be more pollution, 02:24:08.489 --> 02:24:11.129 and so maybe that's an excuse of why the sun 02:24:11.129 --> 02:24:12.709 would be more yellow. But I've lived all over 02:24:12.709 --> 02:24:14.069 the world. Did you see Epstein talking about 02:24:14.069 --> 02:24:17.309 gravity? Oh, boy. Oh, here we go. Here we go. 02:24:17.329 --> 02:24:19.549 Let's be with it. It's not... I don't know. It's 02:24:19.549 --> 02:24:20.989 very... I'll just say... What does he have to 02:24:20.989 --> 02:24:23.329 say? It's fine. It's only 45 seconds. I just 02:24:23.329 --> 02:24:28.379 let it go. So someone's pushing the ball because 02:24:28.379 --> 02:24:30.860 I know that I am confident that the only thing 02:24:30.860 --> 02:24:33.459 That gets something to move is with a force that 02:24:33.459 --> 02:24:35.559 pushes so there's a force that's pushing the 02:24:35.559 --> 02:24:40.940 ball down in fact That's kind of he called it 02:24:40.940 --> 02:24:46.700 gravity he measured how fast it was pulled but 02:24:46.700 --> 02:24:50.799 Never was able to explain why it happened. How 02:24:50.799 --> 02:24:54.790 is it? What is gravity? It's this Everybody says, 02:24:54.870 --> 02:24:56.649 well, why did the ball fall to the ground? Because 02:24:56.649 --> 02:24:59.030 gravity took it. But what's gravity? That's, 02:24:59.030 --> 02:25:01.629 as Feynman would say, that's the name of the 02:25:01.629 --> 02:25:04.530 thing. We have no idea what it is. That's the 02:25:04.530 --> 02:25:06.790 end of that clip. Or it's just density and buoyancy. 02:25:07.670 --> 02:25:09.950 He was really into this topic, apparently. Apparently. 02:25:10.430 --> 02:25:12.309 He knew a lot about it. You know who you should 02:25:12.309 --> 02:25:14.450 have on is Eric Dubé. Do you know who this guy 02:25:14.450 --> 02:25:16.350 is? Oh, he's the Flat Earth guy. Yeah, he's the 02:25:16.350 --> 02:25:18.069 Flat Earth guy. And he's written a book called 02:25:18.069 --> 02:25:21.069 100 Proofs. And in order to prove something, 02:25:21.170 --> 02:25:22.690 you also have to prove things wrong. You went 02:25:22.690 --> 02:25:25.530 down some rabbit holes, Roger Avery. Look, I'm 02:25:25.530 --> 02:25:27.090 a screenwriter, and so I'm always looking for 02:25:27.090 --> 02:25:30.950 things like this to write stuff about. So in 02:25:30.950 --> 02:25:33.049 order to prove, say that again? In order to prove 02:25:33.049 --> 02:25:35.030 what? Whenever you have a proof, you also have 02:25:35.030 --> 02:25:39.030 to disprove. He wrote a book called 100 Proofs 02:25:39.030 --> 02:25:46.090 about the nature of the earth and how it is. 02:25:46.329 --> 02:25:49.829 And it has explanations for many of the things 02:25:49.829 --> 02:25:52.889 you're talking about. Hasn't he debated people 02:25:52.889 --> 02:25:56.030 that actually understand how you can prove that 02:25:56.030 --> 02:25:58.389 the earth is round? He does it very calmly and 02:25:58.389 --> 02:26:01.299 it infuriates people. Right, but I don't think 02:26:01.299 --> 02:26:03.440 he's done well. It's very enjoyable to watch 02:26:03.440 --> 02:26:05.540 because it's really funny. But to people that 02:26:05.540 --> 02:26:07.860 are actual cosmologists, he's not performed well 02:26:07.860 --> 02:26:12.260 in these. Well, the cosmologists will say things 02:26:12.260 --> 02:26:14.879 that still need to be – if you're making statements, 02:26:15.200 --> 02:26:17.280 they still need to be – you still need to disprove 02:26:17.280 --> 02:26:22.020 the other proofs. Right, but there's plenty of 02:26:22.020 --> 02:26:24.260 people that have disproven that the Earth is 02:26:24.260 --> 02:26:28.000 flat. All I'm saying is experiential. With simple 02:26:28.000 --> 02:26:31.420 experiments. The Joe Rogan experience throughout 02:26:31.420 --> 02:26:34.200 life. You are really, like when you go up into 02:26:34.200 --> 02:26:36.440 an airplane, I do not see the curvature of the 02:26:36.440 --> 02:26:38.260 earth. Well, you can't because of perspective. 02:26:38.360 --> 02:26:40.180 Because you're so tiny. Correct. Because you're 02:26:40.180 --> 02:26:42.940 so tiny. So all I'm saying is that through experience, 02:26:43.280 --> 02:26:46.780 that the testimony of your eyes, you will never 02:26:46.780 --> 02:26:51.299 experience a globular earth. But you do experience 02:26:51.299 --> 02:26:55.120 the effect of an Earth that's a globe if you 02:26:55.120 --> 02:26:58.120 go to the other side of the Earth and it's dark 02:26:58.120 --> 02:27:01.420 out when it's sunny in California. They've made 02:27:01.420 --> 02:27:05.840 models of how that could work. Dorks have. Dorks 02:27:05.840 --> 02:27:07.780 have made models. But it doesn't line in with 02:27:07.780 --> 02:27:10.100 our understanding of cosmology. It doesn't line 02:27:10.100 --> 02:27:11.700 in with our understanding of our orbit around 02:27:11.700 --> 02:27:13.520 the sun. That's assuming you believe that we 02:27:13.520 --> 02:27:15.799 orbit around the sun. Listen, I'm not saying 02:27:15.799 --> 02:27:17.540 that we don't orbit around the sun. I'm not saying 02:27:17.540 --> 02:27:20.100 we don't live on a globular Earth. Don't take 02:27:20.100 --> 02:27:23.600 me wrong. But the numbers match. If you do assume 02:27:23.600 --> 02:27:25.500 that they're correct, that we orbit around the 02:27:25.500 --> 02:27:27.879 sun, their calculations are completely accurate. 02:27:27.879 --> 02:27:30.360 If they make the calculations on their flat earth 02:27:30.360 --> 02:27:33.459 model as well, then you still have to prove that 02:27:33.459 --> 02:27:36.819 wrong. Right. But is NASA doing that? Is MIT 02:27:36.819 --> 02:27:40.059 doing that? Of all people to believe, the ones 02:27:40.059 --> 02:27:42.459 who are digitally stitching shit and saying, 02:27:42.760 --> 02:27:47.319 that's a government agency. You went so deep 02:27:47.319 --> 02:27:51.520 with this. Boy. No. All I'm saying is my experience. 02:27:52.260 --> 02:27:54.459 You know, when I get on the plane later today 02:27:54.459 --> 02:27:58.360 and I'm flying back and I look outside, I'm going 02:27:58.360 --> 02:28:03.159 to see a flat, you know, a flat horizon, a horizontal 02:28:03.159 --> 02:28:09.319 horizon before me. And when I land and, you know, 02:28:09.360 --> 02:28:13.819 it's everything else is faith -based. Well. That's 02:28:13.819 --> 02:28:16.489 all I'm saying. It's not, though. It's science 02:28:16.489 --> 02:28:19.729 -based. It's based on data. It's based on our 02:28:19.729 --> 02:28:22.010 understanding. The word science means observation. 02:28:22.510 --> 02:28:24.690 It means testimony of the eyes. Which I'm talking 02:28:24.690 --> 02:28:28.670 about the measurements, data. The data is so 02:28:28.670 --> 02:28:31.229 far removed, one, from my ability to understand, 02:28:31.450 --> 02:28:33.430 but from most people's ability to understand. 02:28:33.530 --> 02:28:35.209 But you can understand the circumference of the 02:28:35.209 --> 02:28:37.209 Earth, right? You can understand the numbers. 02:28:37.309 --> 02:28:40.010 And the numbers line up exactly with how much 02:28:40.010 --> 02:28:42.129 time it would take for the Earth to go around 02:28:42.129 --> 02:28:47.479 in a day. Sure. And it works. In what other experiment 02:28:47.479 --> 02:28:50.260 can you show me where water clings to a spinning 02:28:50.260 --> 02:28:53.979 ball? Like that's kind of the classic flat earther 02:28:53.979 --> 02:28:57.059 thing that they'll ask you. Like, well, show 02:28:57.059 --> 02:28:59.260 me any other example of that. Show me a fucking 02:28:59.260 --> 02:29:02.120 ball that's 24 ,000 miles wide. And the answer 02:29:02.120 --> 02:29:04.459 to that is gravity. And what he's talking about 02:29:04.459 --> 02:29:07.040 in that clip that you just showed is gravity 02:29:07.040 --> 02:29:09.120 is just sort of this idea that we came up with 02:29:09.120 --> 02:29:11.620 to justify that. But there's clearly a force. 02:29:12.440 --> 02:29:15.399 That does that, right? That's density. Just density? 02:29:15.719 --> 02:29:17.860 Yeah, density. Well, then how come these two 02:29:17.860 --> 02:29:19.979 things will fall at the same time if I drop them 02:29:19.979 --> 02:29:23.860 when this is far heavier? How come? I do not 02:29:23.860 --> 02:29:25.860 have an answer for that. Right. But gravity does, 02:29:26.040 --> 02:29:28.780 right? Gravity is, like he said, it's just a 02:29:28.780 --> 02:29:30.979 measurement. It's a measurement of how things 02:29:30.979 --> 02:29:35.120 fall. Right. And the word that they invented, 02:29:35.280 --> 02:29:39.979 gravity, is just an explanation for how objects 02:29:39.979 --> 02:29:42.479 are pulled downward. Right, but those objects, 02:29:42.620 --> 02:29:46.260 if it was just density, wouldn't a heavier object 02:29:46.260 --> 02:29:52.399 drop faster? There's a bowling ball and feathers 02:29:52.399 --> 02:29:54.120 dropping in a vacuum, and they're falling at 02:29:54.120 --> 02:29:58.180 the exact same time. How weird. Vacuum, no density. 02:29:58.750 --> 02:30:00.489 They both fall at the same time because of gravity 02:30:00.489 --> 02:30:03.590 or whatever the force we call gravity is. But 02:30:03.590 --> 02:30:06.170 there is some sort of a force that we call gravity 02:30:06.170 --> 02:30:09.010 that can be measured in a vacuum. Look how excited 02:30:09.010 --> 02:30:11.090 they all are. Yeah. Brian Cox would be pissed 02:30:11.090 --> 02:30:12.870 if he was here right now. He'd be shitting. Oh, 02:30:12.909 --> 02:30:14.930 no. He'd be. I'm not. Listen. I'm not. All I'm 02:30:14.930 --> 02:30:17.450 saying is that my experience in the world. Of 02:30:17.450 --> 02:30:19.770 course. But your experience is based on perspective 02:30:19.770 --> 02:30:22.229 of being a tiny little thing on an enormous thing. 02:30:22.309 --> 02:30:25.190 Correct. Yeah. That is correct. Yeah. That is 02:30:25.190 --> 02:30:26.530 correct. There's a few YouTube channels that 02:30:26.530 --> 02:30:29.219 have broken down all of those. Flat Earth Ideas, 02:30:29.219 --> 02:30:31.780 too. A ton. Go watch those. I tried years ago 02:30:31.780 --> 02:30:35.780 and I gave up. It is absolutely a rabbit hole. 02:30:35.920 --> 02:30:40.180 But what's interesting about it is that if you 02:30:40.180 --> 02:30:47.479 extract the faith that you have in these kind 02:30:47.479 --> 02:30:52.159 of ideas and you supplement it with the faith 02:30:52.159 --> 02:30:57.350 of these other ideas, they're exchangeable. They're 02:30:57.350 --> 02:30:59.350 only exchangeable if you don't understand the 02:30:59.350 --> 02:31:01.190 data and if you don't understand what's actually 02:31:01.190 --> 02:31:02.750 been measured or if you don't understand the 02:31:02.750 --> 02:31:04.469 path of satellites or if you don't understand 02:31:04.469 --> 02:31:07.110 how many different people would have had to lie 02:31:07.110 --> 02:31:10.549 about this shit and not achieve the same observational 02:31:10.549 --> 02:31:13.829 results that all these different space agencies 02:31:13.829 --> 02:31:16.250 have. That the idea that they're all in collusion, 02:31:16.270 --> 02:31:19.270 that Japan and India and even countries that 02:31:19.270 --> 02:31:22.229 hate each other, they're all in collusion on 02:31:22.229 --> 02:31:26.250 this lie that the Earth is round. It seems much 02:31:26.250 --> 02:31:27.670 more likely that there's a bunch of people with 02:31:27.670 --> 02:31:29.489 schizophrenia that think that the earth is flat 02:31:29.489 --> 02:31:31.629 and they make these YouTube videos where they're 02:31:31.629 --> 02:31:33.530 very compelling because they're articulate and 02:31:33.530 --> 02:31:35.069 they use great words and they say it all in a 02:31:35.069 --> 02:31:37.950 nice way without being challenged by real facts 02:31:37.950 --> 02:31:40.909 along the way by someone who actually has studied 02:31:40.909 --> 02:31:44.309 this their whole life. Right. I still saw digital 02:31:44.309 --> 02:31:46.670 stitching on your example. Yeah, it wasn't my 02:31:46.670 --> 02:31:49.469 example. It was some shit Jamie randomly pulled 02:31:49.469 --> 02:31:53.379 offline. That was weird though. perfect for this 02:31:53.379 --> 02:31:55.620 world that we live in, to have sort of a glitch 02:31:55.620 --> 02:31:57.059 like that. But that's kind of what I'm getting 02:31:57.059 --> 02:32:02.180 at is there's so much out there that it just 02:32:02.180 --> 02:32:05.219 falls to faith. And also, what does it really 02:32:05.219 --> 02:32:08.180 matter? That's kind of what I'm getting at, ultimately, 02:32:08.360 --> 02:32:11.200 is what does all of that really matter? What 02:32:11.200 --> 02:32:13.680 does it matter to anybody that there's a cabal 02:32:13.680 --> 02:32:18.059 of 8 ,000 plus people who are secretly controlling 02:32:18.059 --> 02:32:21.139 the world and doing occultism and drinking baby 02:32:21.139 --> 02:32:23.829 blood? Does it really matter as long as you can 02:32:23.829 --> 02:32:25.870 just have your daily pint? This is a very different 02:32:25.870 --> 02:32:28.889 subject now. We've shifted. You've moved away 02:32:28.889 --> 02:32:31.010 from the concept of the earth being flat and 02:32:31.010 --> 02:32:35.309 it's a giant lie that's promoted by a huge group 02:32:35.309 --> 02:32:36.969 of people that aren't even connected in any way, 02:32:37.030 --> 02:32:40.709 shape, or form to evil people that are involved 02:32:40.709 --> 02:32:43.229 in cult -like rituals, which has, by the way— 02:32:43.530 --> 02:32:46.590 always existed. And this is why it's very difficult 02:32:46.590 --> 02:32:49.069 for people to imagine today that some of the 02:32:49.069 --> 02:32:50.610 things that you're hearing from the Epstein files, 02:32:50.709 --> 02:32:52.709 like the potential that they were eating children 02:32:52.709 --> 02:32:55.729 or killing children, or that they use that sulfuric 02:32:55.729 --> 02:32:59.430 acid to boil bodies. We don't want to believe 02:32:59.430 --> 02:33:03.530 in evil that is that deep. But in my opinion, 02:33:03.590 --> 02:33:06.690 if you can find out that evil is real. Right. 02:33:06.729 --> 02:33:09.610 Evil most certainly is real. There's evil acts 02:33:09.610 --> 02:33:11.809 that we have documented all throughout the world. 02:33:11.850 --> 02:33:14.170 There's evil that the cartel does. I just watched 02:33:14.170 --> 02:33:16.149 a video where the cartel chopped this guy's head 02:33:16.149 --> 02:33:19.030 off and put it on a drone and flew it over to 02:33:19.030 --> 02:33:21.110 where the other cartel was. They probably thought 02:33:21.110 --> 02:33:23.270 that was funny. They probably did. Having a good 02:33:23.270 --> 02:33:27.770 time. That's clearly evil. There's plenty of 02:33:27.770 --> 02:33:30.770 evil. Do you believe in demons? I believe in 02:33:30.770 --> 02:33:34.489 the concept of demons. I mean, demons don't materialize 02:33:34.489 --> 02:33:37.329 before us necessarily. They rest upon the shoulders 02:33:37.329 --> 02:33:39.590 of men and whisper into their ears. And then 02:33:39.590 --> 02:33:41.889 people do evil things. This is what I believe. 02:33:41.969 --> 02:33:45.909 I believe that if I was a demon or if demons 02:33:45.909 --> 02:33:48.370 were real, they would get people to do things 02:33:48.370 --> 02:33:51.209 which are verifiably true, that they have done. 02:33:53.250 --> 02:33:58.379 If you were a demonic idea. And you got into 02:33:58.379 --> 02:34:02.219 Oppenheimer's head or Patton's head or anybody's 02:34:02.219 --> 02:34:05.500 – and you wanted them to do something horrific 02:34:05.500 --> 02:34:08.659 to a bunch of innocent people. And you could 02:34:08.659 --> 02:34:11.120 say this is because we're at war. So we're going 02:34:11.120 --> 02:34:14.120 to drop a nuclear bomb on Hiroshima. Like that's 02:34:14.120 --> 02:34:17.360 a demonic act. It's a demonic act of eliminating 02:34:17.360 --> 02:34:20.780 hundreds of thousands or 100 ,000 -plus people 02:34:20.780 --> 02:34:23.790 off the face of the earth who did nothing. They're 02:34:23.790 --> 02:34:26.030 just citizens that are unfortunately involved 02:34:26.030 --> 02:34:29.110 in a country that is in a conflict with some 02:34:29.110 --> 02:34:30.829 people that they don't even know. And then you 02:34:30.829 --> 02:34:33.430 just got vaporized like that. That seems demonic. 02:34:33.889 --> 02:34:38.229 You've just expired 150 ,000 souls. But there 02:34:38.229 --> 02:34:39.450 are people who would argue that the war would 02:34:39.450 --> 02:34:41.149 have continued. I've heard this argument before. 02:34:41.149 --> 02:34:42.549 I've heard that argument too. That the war would 02:34:42.549 --> 02:34:44.389 have continued and so many more would have died. 02:34:44.549 --> 02:34:46.389 Well, if I was a demon, I would want to propagate 02:34:46.389 --> 02:34:49.170 that idea. I would want you to think that you 02:34:49.170 --> 02:34:54.959 have to do it. Is evil justification of things? 02:34:57.659 --> 02:35:01.920 Certainly. Of actions? If you wanted to find 02:35:01.920 --> 02:35:06.360 a way where a demon – just like assume that demons 02:35:06.360 --> 02:35:12.319 are real. How would demons best be able to enact 02:35:12.319 --> 02:35:16.780 demonic things on earth? Would they do it by 02:35:16.780 --> 02:35:20.170 saying I'm a demon and this is – This is what 02:35:20.170 --> 02:35:22.530 you should do and this is horrible and evil. 02:35:22.649 --> 02:35:26.030 Or would you creep into someone's head and find 02:35:26.030 --> 02:35:30.790 justifications for doing a demonic thing? There's 02:35:30.790 --> 02:35:33.569 a lot of things. You would creep into someone's 02:35:33.569 --> 02:35:36.549 head. Right. And you would boil the frog slowly. 02:35:36.870 --> 02:35:40.110 Like let's imagine this is the AIDS crisis and 02:35:40.110 --> 02:35:43.530 you know that AZT is killing people. But you 02:35:43.530 --> 02:35:48.579 also know that you are making. an insane amount 02:35:48.579 --> 02:35:52.120 of profit off of killing people with AZT, and 02:35:52.120 --> 02:35:54.559 you have already established a narrative, and 02:35:54.559 --> 02:35:57.059 Fauci said this publicly, that the reason why 02:35:57.059 --> 02:35:59.819 they only prescribe AZT is AZT is the only thing 02:35:59.819 --> 02:36:03.020 that is both safe and effective. He literally 02:36:03.020 --> 02:36:04.620 used the same language that he used during the 02:36:04.620 --> 02:36:05.899 coronavirus. He's been doing this for a long 02:36:05.899 --> 02:36:09.479 time. He has. If I was a demon, I'd want to get 02:36:09.479 --> 02:36:11.700 in that guy's head, and I'd want to get him to 02:36:11.700 --> 02:36:13.700 keep doing it and say, look how much money they're 02:36:13.700 --> 02:36:16.159 making. You've got to keep this money. There's 02:36:16.159 --> 02:36:18.360 a way to justify this. You're the purveyor of 02:36:18.360 --> 02:36:20.799 information. You are the gatekeeper of the truth. 02:36:21.100 --> 02:36:23.920 You just find a way to dance around these numbers. 02:36:24.260 --> 02:36:27.520 You do not know what you are talking about. This 02:36:27.520 --> 02:36:30.600 is not gain of function. I mean, just what he 02:36:30.600 --> 02:36:34.600 did there, that was evil. By taking a virus. 02:36:35.659 --> 02:36:37.399 funding it, even though it was illegal to fund 02:36:37.399 --> 02:36:39.000 it in the United States, by doing it through 02:36:39.000 --> 02:36:42.340 EcoHealth Alliance and then farming it out to 02:36:42.340 --> 02:36:45.159 them. They do it at the Wuhan lab. And you are, 02:36:45.340 --> 02:36:48.680 in fact, doing gain -of -function research on 02:36:48.680 --> 02:36:51.020 a virus designed for human beings to make it 02:36:51.020 --> 02:36:54.399 more deadly and more contagious. That's demonic. 02:36:55.500 --> 02:36:58.620 You don't have a cure. There was a researcher 02:36:58.620 --> 02:37:03.149 in Canada at the Manitoba Level 4 lab, Dr. I 02:37:03.149 --> 02:37:05.649 think it's how you pronounce her name. And she 02:37:05.649 --> 02:37:08.090 was the one who solved Ebola. Like she had come 02:37:08.090 --> 02:37:11.149 up with the vaccine for Ebola, which is manufactured 02:37:11.149 --> 02:37:14.790 by a California company that is basically a Chinese 02:37:14.790 --> 02:37:19.729 company. And like a rock star, she had made a 02:37:19.729 --> 02:37:24.170 like it was like a hit. She had a hit, a huge 02:37:24.170 --> 02:37:26.489 hit. And just like a rock star, everybody's asking 02:37:26.489 --> 02:37:29.809 you what comes next, what comes next. And so 02:37:29.809 --> 02:37:33.170 she started actively working. working really, 02:37:33.250 --> 02:37:36.590 really hard at coming up with that next thing. 02:37:37.069 --> 02:37:39.610 And like most people, you don't want to stand 02:37:39.610 --> 02:37:43.329 in line. And these level four labs, they have 02:37:43.329 --> 02:37:45.530 to, whenever you move your research from one 02:37:45.530 --> 02:37:48.229 lab to another, you have to go through all sorts 02:37:48.229 --> 02:37:50.329 of stuff in order to do that because it's all 02:37:50.329 --> 02:37:54.329 patented, all of these microbes and viruses and 02:37:54.329 --> 02:37:57.569 Ebola strains and whatnot. It's all patented. 02:37:57.809 --> 02:38:00.469 And so, for example, there was this one kid who 02:38:00.469 --> 02:38:05.129 was working at the lab in Canada, and he was 02:38:05.129 --> 02:38:08.270 moving, I think, to the one in Atlanta. And so 02:38:08.270 --> 02:38:10.170 he was crossing the border, and he didn't want 02:38:10.170 --> 02:38:12.079 to. to like, you know, have to reproduce all 02:38:12.079 --> 02:38:13.760 of his work. And so he just put it into a thermos 02:38:13.760 --> 02:38:15.819 inside of a thing and tried to cross the border 02:38:15.819 --> 02:38:19.540 and he got caught. Well, she got caught in 2019 02:38:19.540 --> 02:38:23.760 by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, basically 02:38:23.760 --> 02:38:27.340 moving stuff from Canada via Air Canada Freight 02:38:27.340 --> 02:38:31.860 from Manitoba, from Winnipeg, this is the Winnipeg 02:38:31.860 --> 02:38:35.559 lab, to Wuhan. And they were moving everything. 02:38:35.760 --> 02:38:38.879 And I tracked where those, because I was writing 02:38:38.879 --> 02:38:42.270 a screenplay about it. And so I tracked, like, 02:38:42.290 --> 02:38:44.149 where did that come from? Well, it's like the 02:38:44.149 --> 02:38:46.889 cutter or maybe it was Abu Dhabi. I can't remember 02:38:46.889 --> 02:38:49.430 the lab there. And then that went through in 02:38:49.430 --> 02:38:51.290 order to get around. It got sent to the one in 02:38:51.290 --> 02:38:53.590 Amsterdam and that got sent to her. And she was 02:38:53.590 --> 02:38:55.329 able to do all this stuff. And she was basically 02:38:55.329 --> 02:38:59.489 just shipping, you know, everything, Hanta and 02:38:59.489 --> 02:39:02.309 all these patented things to Wuhan, you know, 02:39:02.309 --> 02:39:05.530 in order to to do it. And the Royal Canadian 02:39:05.530 --> 02:39:08.659 Mounted Police basically, you know. stopped it 02:39:08.659 --> 02:39:10.819 and she got like walked out of the laboratory 02:39:10.819 --> 02:39:12.840 and everything because they were like is there 02:39:12.840 --> 02:39:15.299 a misappropriation of money going on here like 02:39:15.299 --> 02:39:16.840 what are all these flights that are occurring 02:39:16.840 --> 02:39:21.819 and they redacted who her financer was and we 02:39:21.819 --> 02:39:24.040 still don't know who her financer was but it's 02:39:24.040 --> 02:39:26.100 one of three people and it's the people you probably 02:39:26.100 --> 02:39:29.760 can guess you know these uh people who have an 02:39:29.760 --> 02:39:36.120 interest in uh in in this and uh and but her 02:39:36.120 --> 02:39:38.819 thing was just ambition It was just like anybody. 02:39:39.040 --> 02:39:42.520 She was just wanting to have that next hit. And 02:39:42.520 --> 02:39:46.559 she would do anything to do it, to repeat what 02:39:46.559 --> 02:39:50.780 she did with Ebola. So she was helping to engineer 02:39:50.780 --> 02:39:52.979 viruses? Yeah, they were engineering stuff. And 02:39:52.979 --> 02:39:55.200 then she would ship them via Air Canada freight 02:39:55.200 --> 02:39:59.739 from Winnipeg directly to Wuhan, literally on 02:39:59.739 --> 02:40:02.299 Air Canada flights. So you're flying on Air Canada 02:40:02.299 --> 02:40:05.229 to Wuhan. Down below in cargo, there's all this 02:40:05.229 --> 02:40:10.510 leprosy and some horrible strain of something. 02:40:10.590 --> 02:40:12.770 It's something that's patented. And then they're 02:40:12.770 --> 02:40:15.469 just shipping it over. And none of this has come 02:40:15.469 --> 02:40:20.309 out. Some papers in Canada, like the Winnipeg 02:40:20.309 --> 02:40:22.930 Free Press or something, was trying to cover 02:40:22.930 --> 02:40:25.110 it. But it just gets kind of buried. That was 02:40:25.110 --> 02:40:27.549 one of the weird things that I had also seen 02:40:27.549 --> 02:40:29.229 that I don't know if it's true in the Epstein 02:40:29.229 --> 02:40:33.590 files, that there was talk about. engineering 02:40:33.590 --> 02:40:37.389 a pandemic yeah yeah was it did you yeah i read 02:40:37.389 --> 02:40:40.270 that too i read that too that they were like 02:40:40.270 --> 02:40:42.909 actively working on it like you know running 02:40:42.909 --> 02:40:45.729 models and figuring it out and you know well 02:40:45.729 --> 02:40:48.610 if we do this then this will happen and You know, 02:40:48.649 --> 02:40:50.110 they were pretty successful at that. But why 02:40:50.110 --> 02:40:52.790 would Epstein be involved if he's a financier? 02:40:52.870 --> 02:40:55.149 He was involved in everything. Right. He was 02:40:55.149 --> 02:40:57.629 involved in everything. It was like amazing the 02:40:57.629 --> 02:41:00.610 energy that that guy had. Who has the energy 02:41:00.610 --> 02:41:03.250 to be like doing all this stuff like all over 02:41:03.250 --> 02:41:05.290 the world and like, oh, in Nigeria, we're doing 02:41:05.290 --> 02:41:07.930 this. And in Yemen, we're doing this. And here 02:41:07.930 --> 02:41:10.989 we're doing that. And at the same time, trafficking 02:41:10.989 --> 02:41:13.649 all these girls and, you know, and young children 02:41:13.649 --> 02:41:18.469 and like all this stuff. Right. What's the energy 02:41:18.469 --> 02:41:20.430 to do that? It says, no credible evidence in 02:41:20.430 --> 02:41:22.329 the recently released Epstein Files links Jeffrey 02:41:22.329 --> 02:41:24.530 Epstein or his associates to engineering the 02:41:24.530 --> 02:41:28.590 COVID -19 pandemic. Claims stem from a misinterpreted 02:41:28.590 --> 02:41:32.969 2017 email referencing routine pandemic preparedness 02:41:32.969 --> 02:41:37.690 discussions, not a plot. So what was the claim? 02:41:37.770 --> 02:41:39.610 The original claim? Go down. I didn't ask it 02:41:39.610 --> 02:41:42.430 about COVID -19. Right. You just asked it about 02:41:42.430 --> 02:41:44.870 engineering a pandemic. So what is the pandemic 02:41:44.870 --> 02:41:46.889 claims? Scroll up a little so I can read that. 02:41:47.129 --> 02:41:48.930 That's all. Scroll down a little. There it goes. 02:41:49.010 --> 02:41:53.190 So 2017 email originally from 2015 discussions 02:41:53.190 --> 02:41:57.450 to Bill, widely assumed to be Gates, forwarded 02:41:57.450 --> 02:42:01.069 to Epstein, proposed recommendations and technical 02:42:01.069 --> 02:42:04.270 specifications for pandemic modeling of various 02:42:04.270 --> 02:42:08.610 strains. It focused on healthcare data, simulations 02:42:08.610 --> 02:42:12.670 for preparedness, and neurotechnology, not creating 02:42:12.670 --> 02:42:15.629 or engineering a virus. Gates Foundation later 02:42:15.629 --> 02:42:20.389 ran public event 2001 and 2019, a standard exercise 02:42:20.389 --> 02:42:25.389 with John Hopkins and WHO predating COVID reports. 02:42:25.590 --> 02:42:30.010 That whole public event 2001 is fucking weird. 02:42:30.069 --> 02:42:35.729 Event 2001 is weird. Context and debunking pandemic 02:42:35.729 --> 02:42:39.389 simulations are common public health tools like 02:42:39.389 --> 02:42:43.350 those for SARS or flu. Right. But why is Jeffrey 02:42:43.350 --> 02:42:46.309 Epstein involved in these discussions? He's involved 02:42:46.309 --> 02:42:48.270 in everything. He's involved in gravity. But 02:42:48.270 --> 02:42:51.809 how fucking weird is that? How weird is a pandemic? 02:42:52.780 --> 02:42:55.719 A pandemic was reportedly mentioned in the Epstein 02:42:55.719 --> 02:42:57.540 Files. It was running the world. Three years 02:42:57.540 --> 02:43:00.200 before COVID -19. It was running the world. Well, 02:43:00.219 --> 02:43:01.180 this is what my friend Eddie Bravo believes. 02:43:01.180 --> 02:43:03.340 And creating the illusion. In the meantime, Ghislaine 02:43:03.340 --> 02:43:06.719 Maxwell is running the Reddit forum on World 02:43:06.719 --> 02:43:09.299 News. Like, she's literally shaping the World 02:43:09.299 --> 02:43:12.940 News Reddit forum. She was? Yeah. She was running 02:43:12.940 --> 02:43:15.559 the World News forum on Reddit? Yeah, she was. 02:43:15.620 --> 02:43:17.399 And it all went dark the minute she got picked 02:43:17.399 --> 02:43:21.100 up, her person. But she was like the... The main 02:43:21.100 --> 02:43:24.399 contributor did thousands of posts, like all 02:43:24.399 --> 02:43:28.440 day long posting world news, shaping our perception 02:43:28.440 --> 02:43:30.620 of things. One email was a subject preparing 02:43:30.620 --> 02:43:34.280 for pandemics, was sent by a person whose name 02:43:34.280 --> 02:43:38.940 was redacted. By the way, did you see that? Why 02:43:38.940 --> 02:43:41.739 would they redact the person who sent that? That's 02:43:41.739 --> 02:43:44.059 not a victim. You're supposed to redact. I think 02:43:44.059 --> 02:43:46.299 they just they did like supposedly they just 02:43:46.299 --> 02:43:49.180 did massive redacting. But sometimes you can 02:43:49.180 --> 02:43:51.319 see like, oh, the name is short. It's probably 02:43:51.319 --> 02:43:54.040 Bill. And then the one that comes after that, 02:43:54.079 --> 02:43:56.219 if it's a little longer, it might be Clinton. 02:43:56.379 --> 02:43:58.180 And if it's a little shorter, it might be Gates. 02:43:58.280 --> 02:44:05.129 But again, that's just, you know. There's no 02:44:05.129 --> 02:44:07.870 – it's like plausible deniability until they 02:44:07.870 --> 02:44:10.049 release all these names. Did you notice that 02:44:10.049 --> 02:44:14.670 Jeffrey Epstein's Fortnite account suddenly became 02:44:14.670 --> 02:44:18.729 active in Tel Aviv and that somebody is playing 02:44:18.729 --> 02:44:21.790 under his – right after his supposed death. Right. 02:44:21.870 --> 02:44:24.530 Suddenly he's playing Fortnite again. Yeah. He 02:44:24.530 --> 02:44:26.870 doesn't even have the decency to make a new account. 02:44:27.209 --> 02:44:29.530 Well, he wants to keep all of his like – His 02:44:29.530 --> 02:44:32.389 stats. His stats. He wants to keep all that stuff. 02:44:32.469 --> 02:44:36.069 And he's safe in, you know, in another country. 02:44:36.129 --> 02:44:38.170 So do you think they just like did those? That's 02:44:38.170 --> 02:44:39.969 another thing. There was another Reddit thread 02:44:39.969 --> 02:44:44.290 about some guy who said that he was a guard. 02:44:44.510 --> 02:44:46.469 It was a 4chan thread. It was a 4chan? Yeah. 02:44:46.590 --> 02:44:48.649 So it was a 4chan thread where this guy said 02:44:48.649 --> 02:44:52.190 that he was a guard at the facility and he posted 02:44:52.190 --> 02:44:54.790 this before Epstein was killed. He was a guard. 02:44:54.850 --> 02:44:57.450 They uncovered using whatever way they do it, 02:44:57.450 --> 02:44:59.590 but using phone records or whatever from 4chan 02:44:59.590 --> 02:45:01.950 they discovered. He was a guard and he was like 02:45:01.950 --> 02:45:04.069 a legit guy. He got caught basically talking 02:45:04.069 --> 02:45:07.350 about it, that they snuck, they used a decoy 02:45:07.350 --> 02:45:11.569 body. There was an unscheduled ambulance arrival 02:45:11.569 --> 02:45:14.549 that night. They never logged in and you're always 02:45:14.549 --> 02:45:17.270 supposed to log in. There's footage of like, 02:45:17.389 --> 02:45:20.190 you know, orange, people in orange moving through 02:45:20.190 --> 02:45:23.569 the facility on the, you know, just glimpses 02:45:23.569 --> 02:45:27.569 of it. So you think he's alive somewhere? It's. 02:45:28.239 --> 02:45:31.079 It's not impossible. It's not impossible. It's 02:45:31.079 --> 02:45:35.159 probable. Also didn't... It's a probability. 02:45:35.540 --> 02:45:38.680 It's more than a possibility. The guy who did 02:45:38.680 --> 02:45:42.299 the autopsy, did anything happen to him? The 02:45:42.299 --> 02:45:45.600 guy who... He committed suicide. Yeah, let's 02:45:45.600 --> 02:45:48.780 find that out. That would be fucking crazy. Because 02:45:48.780 --> 02:45:50.819 that happened to the guy who did the autopsy 02:45:50.819 --> 02:45:53.379 on Andrew Breitbart. Didn't he wind up dying 02:45:53.379 --> 02:45:56.350 shortly after that? Like Andrew Breitbart? Yes. 02:45:56.389 --> 02:45:58.649 And who's the guy who said the Podesta? An alarming 02:45:58.649 --> 02:46:01.569 amount of people commit suicide. Alarming. Who 02:46:01.569 --> 02:46:04.250 are doing this stuff. Or die of something real 02:46:04.250 --> 02:46:07.309 weird. Yeah, suddenly they do it. I saw people 02:46:07.309 --> 02:46:09.250 in jail who committed suicide and they didn't 02:46:09.250 --> 02:46:10.909 commit suicide. They got killed by their cellie. 02:46:11.110 --> 02:46:14.549 Nobody bothered checking in on that. Yeah, that 02:46:14.549 --> 02:46:18.809 makes sense. The guy who did the autopsy for 02:46:18.809 --> 02:46:20.690 Jeffrey Epstein, did anything happen to him? 02:46:21.110 --> 02:46:24.250 I mean, it was a woman. A woman? New York chief 02:46:24.250 --> 02:46:27.090 medical examiner, Dr. Barbara Sampson, and she 02:46:27.090 --> 02:46:30.590 just resigned a year ago. Okay, so nothing happened 02:46:30.590 --> 02:46:32.829 to her. You're talking about evil? You know who 02:46:32.829 --> 02:46:37.989 the devil was in The Exorcist? Who? Well, it's 02:46:37.989 --> 02:46:40.690 like Pazuzu, and we're presented with an actual 02:46:40.690 --> 02:46:43.049 devil, but when you actually watch the movie, 02:46:43.149 --> 02:46:46.610 there's kind of evidence that, and people have 02:46:46.610 --> 02:46:50.030 talked about this, that there's evidence within 02:46:50.030 --> 02:46:56.489 the film that... It's more than just demonic 02:46:56.489 --> 02:46:58.469 possession, that the demonic possession comes 02:46:58.469 --> 02:47:00.049 from some place. And by the way, Jeffrey Epstein 02:47:00.049 --> 02:47:05.229 was doing also funding research in how trauma. 02:47:05.979 --> 02:47:09.920 effects like clairvoyance and telepathy and things 02:47:09.920 --> 02:47:13.280 like that, how you're able to invoke those out 02:47:13.280 --> 02:47:20.379 of trauma. And in The Exorcist, you have Reagan, 02:47:20.520 --> 02:47:24.860 who's Linda Blair, and there's that party scene. 02:47:25.159 --> 02:47:26.680 You remember in The Exorcist, they're making 02:47:26.680 --> 02:47:29.329 a movie within the movie. You know, they're they're 02:47:29.329 --> 02:47:31.690 actually shooting a movie. The the character 02:47:31.690 --> 02:47:36.729 of the mother is she's acting in a film inside 02:47:36.729 --> 02:47:38.350 of the movie. And there's a director in that 02:47:38.350 --> 02:47:41.250 film and they have a big party scene after it. 02:47:41.329 --> 02:47:45.370 And the director, you know, he's he's basically 02:47:45.370 --> 02:47:49.989 yelling at the the butler, her her house man, 02:47:50.190 --> 02:47:52.870 you know, calling him a Nazi and stuff like that. 02:47:52.969 --> 02:47:55.530 And he's I bet you went bowling with gobbles 02:47:55.530 --> 02:47:59.629 and things like that. Well. For a while, he vanishes 02:47:59.629 --> 02:48:02.950 from the party. And we later see like Reagan 02:48:02.950 --> 02:48:04.889 afterwards, like completely flipped out, like 02:48:04.889 --> 02:48:07.389 laying in bed. And then after that, she comes 02:48:07.389 --> 02:48:09.969 and then he's leaving the party and he turns 02:48:09.969 --> 02:48:13.649 to the mother and he's like, I have to tell you 02:48:13.649 --> 02:48:18.750 something. I have to tell you something. Fuck 02:48:18.750 --> 02:48:23.270 it. And he leaves. And so and then. After that, 02:48:23.350 --> 02:48:26.129 Reagan comes down and she looks to the astronaut 02:48:26.129 --> 02:48:28.270 guy and says, you're going to die up there. And 02:48:28.270 --> 02:48:30.549 then she pisses on the floor and everybody's 02:48:30.549 --> 02:48:33.350 like shit. And from that moment on, there's all 02:48:33.350 --> 02:48:37.290 this like highly sexualized devil speaking through 02:48:37.290 --> 02:48:39.790 her with a British accent. And the guy, the director. 02:48:40.299 --> 02:48:42.719 is a British guy. And so the implication, and 02:48:42.719 --> 02:48:45.680 then he is for some reason left with Reagan and 02:48:45.680 --> 02:48:48.680 then gets thrown out of the balcony and his head 02:48:48.680 --> 02:48:51.200 is twisted all the way around and he dies as 02:48:51.200 --> 02:48:55.120 a character. So the implication is that the director 02:48:55.120 --> 02:48:59.219 is the one who has raped Reagan and thus invoking 02:48:59.219 --> 02:49:02.899 this demonic presence into her. And it turns 02:49:02.899 --> 02:49:06.610 out that... I thought it was a... Some totem 02:49:06.610 --> 02:49:09.409 that they found and it was possessed. All of 02:49:09.409 --> 02:49:11.489 that stuff is there. The Ouija board is there 02:49:11.489 --> 02:49:12.989 and everything. But it turns out that William 02:49:12.989 --> 02:49:18.250 Peter Blatty actually made a movie called John 02:49:18.250 --> 02:49:21.750 Goldfrapp, Your Life is blah, blah, blah. I can't 02:49:21.750 --> 02:49:24.069 remember the exact title of the film. And he 02:49:24.069 --> 02:49:26.829 made that movie with Shirley MacLaine. And the 02:49:26.829 --> 02:49:28.950 director of the film is this guy, J. Lee Thompson, 02:49:29.270 --> 02:49:31.989 British director, who looks exactly like the 02:49:31.989 --> 02:49:38.620 actor in that. The idea is that Reagan's mother 02:49:38.620 --> 02:49:43.059 is Shirley MacLaine and Reagan is her daughter, 02:49:43.159 --> 02:49:46.920 Sasha. And the British director is J. Lee Thompson. 02:49:47.059 --> 02:49:48.780 And when you start looking at his movies, they're 02:49:48.780 --> 02:49:50.559 a little strange. You know, there's like, you 02:49:50.559 --> 02:49:53.260 know, he directed the original Cape Fear, which 02:49:53.260 --> 02:49:57.909 has a kind of strange. thing going on in it. 02:49:57.950 --> 02:50:01.350 So does the second one. Yeah, they all do. And 02:50:01.350 --> 02:50:05.110 then, especially, they amplify it in the second 02:50:05.110 --> 02:50:06.250 one. Yeah, with Juliette Lewis and Robert De 02:50:06.250 --> 02:50:08.790 Niro. He did this movie, Kinjite, with Bronson, 02:50:08.790 --> 02:50:10.549 and that all has kind of like a weird pedophilic 02:50:10.549 --> 02:50:12.530 thing. He did this movie, The Reincarnation of 02:50:12.530 --> 02:50:15.510 Peter Proud, where Peter Proud dies and then, 02:50:15.629 --> 02:50:21.190 or rather... Peter Proud remembers his reincarnation. 02:50:21.190 --> 02:50:23.149 He remembers his iteration of his other self 02:50:23.149 --> 02:50:26.250 who was murdered. Then he hunts down the woman 02:50:26.250 --> 02:50:29.290 who maybe did it and then starts sleeping with 02:50:29.290 --> 02:50:31.909 her daughter, which is basically sleeping with 02:50:31.909 --> 02:50:34.389 his daughter because he's reincarnated. So this 02:50:34.389 --> 02:50:38.420 guy, as a filmmaker, has done all this. And so 02:50:38.420 --> 02:50:41.120 William Peter Blatty worked on that film with 02:50:41.120 --> 02:50:43.719 Shirley MacLaine and shortly thereafter wrote 02:50:43.719 --> 02:50:47.200 the book The Exorcist. And Sasha in her, you 02:50:47.200 --> 02:50:51.239 know, autobiography even mentions, you know, 02:50:51.239 --> 02:50:53.000 God, the person on the cover of the book looked 02:50:53.000 --> 02:50:54.819 a lot like me. And everyone's just saying, oh, 02:50:54.819 --> 02:50:57.860 it's just a coincidence. And, you know, well, 02:50:57.959 --> 02:51:00.979 I never walked down the stairs on all fours and 02:51:00.979 --> 02:51:03.760 I never vomited, you know, pea soup or whatever, 02:51:03.959 --> 02:51:06.780 that none of that ever happened to me. But there's 02:51:06.780 --> 02:51:09.020 a pretty dark implication behind the whole film. 02:51:09.059 --> 02:51:11.260 And I brought it up with William Friedkin. Hey, 02:51:11.420 --> 02:51:15.440 is this meant to be J. Lee Thompson? Is this 02:51:15.440 --> 02:51:18.959 a way to talk about that that actually happened 02:51:18.959 --> 02:51:22.440 in real life? He said, I cannot talk about that, 02:51:22.479 --> 02:51:26.340 but I'm not saying you're wrong. Whoa. And so, 02:51:26.479 --> 02:51:29.379 you know, and there's actually a moment where. 02:51:30.059 --> 02:51:31.920 And Reagan is talking to her mother and she's 02:51:31.920 --> 02:51:33.799 like, well, do you like him? Do you like him 02:51:33.799 --> 02:51:36.079 like you like daddy? And so there's this idea 02:51:36.079 --> 02:51:38.020 that he's been coming over and they've been having 02:51:38.020 --> 02:51:41.200 this affair. And then all of a sudden she says 02:51:41.200 --> 02:51:43.079 to her daughter, and it kind of jumped out at 02:51:43.079 --> 02:51:45.700 me when I rewatched it. She says to her daughter, 02:51:45.780 --> 02:51:49.620 well, I like pizza, but I wouldn't marry one. 02:51:50.729 --> 02:51:52.770 And it was like, oh, my God, there's like a pizza 02:51:52.770 --> 02:51:55.069 reference in the middle of this, in the middle 02:51:55.069 --> 02:51:57.209 of everything that's happening. How long is that? 02:51:57.329 --> 02:52:00.510 That's Periola, but still. Ben Swan brought up 02:52:00.510 --> 02:52:02.370 during the whole Pizzagate thing that got him 02:52:02.370 --> 02:52:06.229 fired. But how long has the term pizza been used? 02:52:06.530 --> 02:52:09.959 Well. It jumped out at me and The Exorcist is 02:52:09.959 --> 02:52:14.159 in the early 70s. And and so what is it, 1971? 02:52:14.319 --> 02:52:17.159 And that movie that he did with Shirley MacLaine, 02:52:17.239 --> 02:52:20.040 who is effectively that's the movie that shooting 02:52:20.040 --> 02:52:22.520 inside of the movie. And so this was a way for 02:52:22.520 --> 02:52:24.440 Peter Benchley. I mean, it's not Peter Benchley, 02:52:24.500 --> 02:52:29.440 William Peter Blatty to to kind of. Transcode 02:52:29.440 --> 02:52:33.200 all of that. And the astronaut in the film, Shirley 02:52:33.200 --> 02:52:36.159 MacLaine, talks about the, I can't remember if 02:52:36.159 --> 02:52:38.020 it was her husband or boyfriend that she remarried 02:52:38.020 --> 02:52:40.860 who was an astronaut. And in her autobiography, 02:52:40.920 --> 02:52:43.700 she talks about how he was cloned. He came back 02:52:43.700 --> 02:52:46.280 from space and a different person that he was 02:52:46.280 --> 02:52:48.979 cloned. And she kind of, everybody kind of laughed 02:52:48.979 --> 02:52:50.940 it off like, oh, it was just kind of a joke that 02:52:50.940 --> 02:52:54.000 I wrote into my autobiography. But it's kind 02:52:54.000 --> 02:52:56.979 of weird. Real weird. Yeah, it's really strange. 02:52:58.250 --> 02:53:02.750 People speak through movies, and they hide information 02:53:02.750 --> 02:53:07.229 in films. Some more than others, right? Yeah, 02:53:07.229 --> 02:53:09.469 William Peter Blatty, who was doing all sorts 02:53:09.469 --> 02:53:13.329 of Ouija stuff with Shirley MacLaine, who was 02:53:13.329 --> 02:53:16.590 really into that kind of thing back in the late 02:53:16.590 --> 02:53:22.889 60s and early 70s. And, you know, he sits down 02:53:22.889 --> 02:53:24.790 to write his book, and what's he writing about? 02:53:24.870 --> 02:53:26.629 Well, he's writing that movie's about Shirley 02:53:26.629 --> 02:53:32.280 MacLaine. Her daughter, Sasha, Sachi, I'm sorry, 02:53:32.360 --> 02:53:37.079 Sachi. And, you know, the astronaut and, you 02:53:37.079 --> 02:53:40.459 know, it's all and J. Lee Thompson, who basically 02:53:40.459 --> 02:53:43.840 he eviscerates within the film, but in a way 02:53:43.840 --> 02:53:47.020 that nobody really connects it. It all happens 02:53:47.020 --> 02:53:51.180 off camera. But but the implication is, is that 02:53:51.180 --> 02:53:53.680 she was raped by that director. And from and 02:53:53.680 --> 02:53:57.620 from that moment on has a kind of. You know, 02:53:57.620 --> 02:54:00.680 she's speaking with a British accent as the devil. 02:54:01.180 --> 02:54:03.579 It's his voice, actually, that's coming out of 02:54:03.579 --> 02:54:06.360 her. She's talking about, you know, being raped 02:54:06.360 --> 02:54:09.059 by a crucifix. That actor, that's his voice? 02:54:09.180 --> 02:54:10.299 Is that what you're saying? Yeah, that's what 02:54:10.299 --> 02:54:13.459 I'm saying. It's like the voice of, I think his 02:54:13.459 --> 02:54:18.120 name is Gowan. And he died like shortly after 02:54:18.120 --> 02:54:21.940 the film was made also. Shortly after The Exorcist 02:54:21.940 --> 02:54:24.200 was made. Well, we know that people have encoded 02:54:24.200 --> 02:54:27.280 very bizarre things. Kubrick was famous for it. 02:54:27.360 --> 02:54:29.799 Yeah, well, that's Kubrick. Everybody does it. 02:54:29.819 --> 02:54:32.700 I do it. Everybody does it. I mean, motion pictures 02:54:32.700 --> 02:54:36.979 are a kind of magic spell. And, you know, when 02:54:36.979 --> 02:54:41.059 you write, you're hearing, I hear voices and 02:54:41.059 --> 02:54:43.180 they come through me and they land on the page. 02:54:43.340 --> 02:54:45.840 And I don't know where they come from. But it 02:54:45.840 --> 02:54:52.639 is a kind of. invite to possession and that these 02:54:52.639 --> 02:54:54.979 things come into you and that you put it on the 02:54:54.979 --> 02:54:57.420 page and then you make this movie and everybody 02:54:57.420 --> 02:54:59.739 like I said sits in a theater in the dark watching 02:54:59.739 --> 02:55:02.639 a flicker of this thing and it's telling you 02:55:02.639 --> 02:55:05.540 both our myths and traditions but it's also predictive 02:55:05.540 --> 02:55:10.100 programming everybody and so Jesus dude have 02:55:10.100 --> 02:55:15.639 you seen Have I seen what? Well, actually, I 02:55:15.639 --> 02:55:20.139 was thinking about, like, the Daily Wire thing. 02:55:20.239 --> 02:55:22.360 But, you know, media comes from a lot of different 02:55:22.360 --> 02:55:26.200 places now. You don't know where you're going 02:55:26.200 --> 02:55:30.120 to find your next entertainment. Right. And there's 02:55:30.120 --> 02:55:32.799 this show that I really like that show Rome. 02:55:32.979 --> 02:55:35.079 Did you see Rome? No, I never saw it. Okay. I 02:55:35.079 --> 02:55:38.159 loved Rome. I watched the first episode and I 02:55:38.159 --> 02:55:41.379 thought it was. Flat. Because it told the story 02:55:41.379 --> 02:55:46.260 of ancient Rome through Shakespeare and through 02:55:46.260 --> 02:55:51.239 history and through Plato and all these kind 02:55:51.239 --> 02:55:55.239 of. ideas of ancient Rome or Socrates and all 02:55:55.239 --> 02:55:58.280 these ideas of ancient Rome and then it told 02:55:58.280 --> 02:56:00.959 a very ground level story from the perspective 02:56:00.959 --> 02:56:03.840 of like handmaidens and centurions and still 02:56:03.840 --> 02:56:05.840 has Mark Anthony and Cleopatra and everything 02:56:05.840 --> 02:56:08.700 going on in it but it tells a very you know soap 02:56:08.700 --> 02:56:11.360 opera like drama through it and so there was 02:56:11.360 --> 02:56:13.840 this other show and it had been out like three 02:56:13.840 --> 02:56:17.600 seasons when I started watching it And it did 02:56:17.600 --> 02:56:20.020 the exact same thing. Nobody had ever like nobody 02:56:20.020 --> 02:56:21.879 was talking about it. Nobody had ever heard about 02:56:21.879 --> 02:56:24.239 it. Most people don't even know about it. It's 02:56:24.239 --> 02:56:26.860 The Chosen. Do you know this show? What was that? 02:56:27.020 --> 02:56:28.860 It does the exact same thing, but it does it 02:56:28.860 --> 02:56:31.059 with the Gospels. And it's all about Christ. 02:56:31.260 --> 02:56:36.000 And it's like a low budget or it was low budget, 02:56:36.120 --> 02:56:40.420 crowdfunded story of Jesus. And it just basically, 02:56:40.479 --> 02:56:45.159 like Rome, tells this historical tale about Jesus. 02:56:45.719 --> 02:56:49.440 And OK, so I'm watching. I've seen every movie 02:56:49.440 --> 02:56:52.959 about Jesus ever made. I've seen King of Kings 02:56:52.959 --> 02:56:56.299 of both versions. I've seen, you know, the Zeffirelli 02:56:56.299 --> 02:56:58.379 film. I've seen Last Temptation of Christ. I've 02:56:58.379 --> 02:57:01.479 seen The Passion of the Christ. I've seen all 02:57:01.479 --> 02:57:05.280 of them. I've seen the Jeremy Sisto Jesus movie. 02:57:07.000 --> 02:57:09.479 I've seen everything. I worked with Paul Verhoeven 02:57:09.479 --> 02:57:13.620 on his Jesus film that was unproduced. And so 02:57:13.620 --> 02:57:16.559 like I had a lot of experience in it and I never 02:57:16.559 --> 02:57:18.620 really got it. to be perfectly honest. I never 02:57:18.620 --> 02:57:22.700 really understood the story. This show, I started 02:57:22.700 --> 02:57:24.020 watching it and I was like, okay, I've got a 02:57:24.020 --> 02:57:26.200 chip on my shoulder. Let's see. And it's really 02:57:26.200 --> 02:57:28.540 cheap. It's like rocks are made out of styrofoam. 02:57:28.579 --> 02:57:33.600 They can't afford a, you know, a house. And so 02:57:33.600 --> 02:57:36.100 they just use blankets and a gourd hanging. And 02:57:36.100 --> 02:57:38.159 so it's like, it's really, really inexpensive. 02:57:38.340 --> 02:57:40.659 And the script is even a little bit contemporary, 02:57:40.940 --> 02:57:43.579 which almost becomes like a joke as you're watching 02:57:43.579 --> 02:57:46.579 it. It's kind of funny. But lo and behold. I'm 02:57:46.579 --> 02:57:49.180 watching it, and there came a moment by about 02:57:49.180 --> 02:57:52.139 episode three where it was like, ding, I get 02:57:52.139 --> 02:57:56.440 it. Like, Jesus is kind of punk rock. He's basically 02:57:56.440 --> 02:57:59.760 saying there are no rules to anything. Like, 02:57:59.799 --> 02:58:03.479 you know, you can commit miracles on the Sabbath. 02:58:03.819 --> 02:58:06.040 You know, there are no rules. Anybody is led. 02:58:06.100 --> 02:58:08.719 All you need to be is wanting of salvation. And 02:58:08.719 --> 02:58:11.399 it was like a third eye opened up to me. And 02:58:11.399 --> 02:58:13.840 this show is fantastic, and it breaks all the 02:58:13.840 --> 02:58:17.329 rules. It's outside. of the Pharisees of Hollywood. 02:58:17.829 --> 02:58:22.809 One guy, this guy Dallas Jenkins, who's absolutely 02:58:22.809 --> 02:58:26.489 my favorite modern filmmaker right now. I think 02:58:26.489 --> 02:58:28.889 this guy's brilliant. He's directed every single 02:58:28.889 --> 02:58:31.610 episode of this show, and they've got like seven 02:58:31.610 --> 02:58:34.549 seasons out, and you can watch it for free. On 02:58:34.549 --> 02:58:37.030 what? On anything. Like if you have an Apple 02:58:37.030 --> 02:58:40.530 TV, you can just look up the Chosen app, and 02:58:40.530 --> 02:58:44.170 boop, up comes the Chosen app. So it's an app 02:58:44.170 --> 02:58:46.579 thing. Or you can watch it on YouTube or you 02:58:46.579 --> 02:58:48.579 can watch it. I think Netflix eventually, I think 02:58:48.579 --> 02:58:50.340 it was Netflix eventually bought it. Now they're 02:58:50.340 --> 02:58:52.760 showing it. Basically, you can see it anywhere. 02:58:52.780 --> 02:58:54.340 They give it away the way the Gideons give away 02:58:54.340 --> 02:59:00.500 the Bible. And, you know, I thought it was fantastic. 02:59:00.540 --> 02:59:02.100 And then season two came around and suddenly 02:59:02.100 --> 02:59:04.219 they had all this money and they're doing all 02:59:04.219 --> 02:59:06.479 these like, you know, they've got this ancient 02:59:06.479 --> 02:59:08.959 Judea set with cobblestone streets and, you know, 02:59:08.959 --> 02:59:12.620 like this detailed set. Roman colonnades and 02:59:12.620 --> 02:59:15.260 stuff like that. And I was like, wow, like they 02:59:15.260 --> 02:59:16.579 really got a big budget. And then I looked it 02:59:16.579 --> 02:59:18.520 up and I was like, oh, no, they're using the 02:59:18.520 --> 02:59:20.760 Mormons have all these standing sets for their 02:59:20.760 --> 02:59:23.559 biblical productions in Utah. And they're incredible. 02:59:23.700 --> 02:59:26.340 These sets are unbelievable. If I had known it's 02:59:26.340 --> 02:59:30.139 like Chinachita in Utah. It's it's it's absolutely 02:59:30.139 --> 02:59:33.840 fantastic. And and the characters are like they 02:59:33.840 --> 02:59:37.000 only have money for like three Romans costumes 02:59:37.000 --> 02:59:40.100 probably. And so they're kind of like making. 02:59:40.270 --> 02:59:41.909 do with what they have but they've got this guy 02:59:41.909 --> 02:59:45.549 playing the legate there who is hilarious he's 02:59:45.549 --> 02:59:48.670 in the first season he is absolutely hilarious 02:59:48.670 --> 02:59:51.950 and the show is great and then like proper television 02:59:51.950 --> 02:59:53.829 you're watching it and you're starting to love 02:59:53.829 --> 02:59:55.950 these characters and you're starting to like 02:59:55.950 --> 02:59:58.850 it's and it's you know what it is the bread and 02:59:58.850 --> 03:00:02.250 butter of hollywood is revenge and wrath like 03:00:02.250 --> 03:00:04.930 that's what makes that's the the fuel that that 03:00:04.930 --> 03:00:07.770 pushes most hollywood movies it is much more 03:00:07.770 --> 03:00:11.440 difficult And and requires much more maturity 03:00:11.440 --> 03:00:14.600 to make a movie about forgiveness. And this kid, 03:00:14.659 --> 03:00:16.360 Dallas Jenkins, I call him a kid, but he's not 03:00:16.360 --> 03:00:19.620 a kid. That's an insult. He's he's super great. 03:00:19.819 --> 03:00:25.100 He he is making every single episode is effectively 03:00:25.100 --> 03:00:28.659 because it's the Gospels about forgiveness. And 03:00:28.659 --> 03:00:32.280 he has done this magnificent, unbelievable achievement. 03:00:32.340 --> 03:00:34.479 And the show is huge. Now, they've got like seven 03:00:34.479 --> 03:00:37.219 seasons. They built a studio. You know, like 03:00:37.219 --> 03:00:39.780 outside of Dallas -Fort Worth on a Salvation 03:00:39.780 --> 03:00:42.360 Army property that they've built sound stages 03:00:42.360 --> 03:00:48.299 and everything. And it is – and that's like you 03:00:48.299 --> 03:00:50.520 can get it anywhere. You can watch it anywhere. 03:00:50.799 --> 03:00:53.139 And they're making programming that should have 03:00:53.139 --> 03:00:55.079 been on HBO. It should have been produced by 03:00:55.079 --> 03:00:58.840 HBO the way Rome was. And instead, it's just 03:00:58.840 --> 03:01:01.120 – it's coming out of the ether. And it's almost 03:01:01.120 --> 03:01:05.360 like with the inattention given to – you know, 03:01:05.360 --> 03:01:11.840 most modern, or rather the way that people are 03:01:11.840 --> 03:01:14.700 making things, that they're focused on wrath 03:01:14.700 --> 03:01:19.299 and revenge, like this other thing, like the 03:01:19.299 --> 03:01:22.079 Pendragon cycle and the Chosen have kind of risen 03:01:22.079 --> 03:01:27.620 out of the vacuum that the studios and broadcasters 03:01:27.620 --> 03:01:30.200 have kind of created, because they're no longer 03:01:30.200 --> 03:01:32.200 making that kind of product, at least not as 03:01:32.200 --> 03:01:35.729 much. And so I think this is actually one of 03:01:35.729 --> 03:01:39.030 the most exciting times in media and television. 03:01:39.729 --> 03:01:42.010 Yeah, I definitely think it's a very unusual 03:01:42.010 --> 03:01:45.569 time where the normal people that are producing 03:01:45.569 --> 03:01:51.030 things don't have a complete monopoly on what 03:01:51.030 --> 03:01:53.309 people see. And that many of the times these 03:01:53.309 --> 03:01:55.370 alternative things have gotten much larger than 03:01:55.370 --> 03:01:58.610 the mainstream thing. I find it like almost impossible 03:01:58.610 --> 03:02:01.649 to get a movie going. Like I'm, you know, I'm 03:02:01.649 --> 03:02:03.850 like an independent filmmaker. I go out there 03:02:03.850 --> 03:02:05.850 and I usually I work on a script and then I figure 03:02:05.850 --> 03:02:08.270 out the budgets and I figure out that and I go 03:02:08.270 --> 03:02:09.989 out and I hit the pavement. And it's a really 03:02:09.989 --> 03:02:12.090 hard part, probably because I'm a flat earther 03:02:12.090 --> 03:02:15.469 kid. I am not a flat earther. I just like to 03:02:15.469 --> 03:02:19.069 provoke people. But, you know, I go out there 03:02:19.069 --> 03:02:21.649 and I try to get this stuff made and it's like 03:02:21.649 --> 03:02:24.709 almost impossible. And then I built a technology 03:02:24.709 --> 03:02:30.059 company over the last year. And basically making 03:02:30.059 --> 03:02:32.840 AI movies. And all of a sudden, boom, like that 03:02:32.840 --> 03:02:35.079 money gets thrown at it. And all of a sudden, 03:02:35.100 --> 03:02:38.020 just by attaching the word AI and that it's a 03:02:38.020 --> 03:02:40.840 technology -based company, all of a sudden investors 03:02:40.840 --> 03:02:44.680 came in and we're in production on three films 03:02:44.680 --> 03:02:47.079 now. AI is not right now. I know. That's the 03:02:47.079 --> 03:02:49.780 crazy thing is that it was so easy for me to 03:02:49.780 --> 03:02:51.639 get that going and so difficult for me to get 03:02:51.639 --> 03:02:53.600 a traditional movie going through the traditional 03:02:53.600 --> 03:02:56.729 route like going to – you know, A24, blah, blah, 03:02:56.750 --> 03:02:58.450 blah, trying to like, you know, hit the pavement. 03:02:58.489 --> 03:03:01.549 I have to go to Europe to gather together financing 03:03:01.549 --> 03:03:03.750 and everything like that. No, just put AI in 03:03:03.750 --> 03:03:05.229 front of it and all of a sudden you're in production 03:03:05.229 --> 03:03:08.090 on three features and we're making a Christmas 03:03:08.090 --> 03:03:11.129 movie, a family Christmas movie that'll be in 03:03:11.129 --> 03:03:14.409 theaters this holiday season. We're making a 03:03:14.409 --> 03:03:16.930 faith -based film for next Easter and then we're 03:03:16.930 --> 03:03:20.219 making a kind of big... romantic war epic and 03:03:20.219 --> 03:03:22.739 like as classical movies and we have like a proprietary 03:03:22.739 --> 03:03:25.079 stack of technology that we use for our process 03:03:25.079 --> 03:03:28.920 and I partnered with this company Massive Studios 03:03:28.920 --> 03:03:33.979 AI and formed my company which is General Cinema 03:03:33.979 --> 03:03:37.440 Dynamics and I'm based here in Texas now and 03:03:37.440 --> 03:03:41.540 or my company is and I'm slowly transitioning 03:03:41.540 --> 03:03:46.370 and it's like It's actually kind of, I think, 03:03:46.389 --> 03:03:48.989 you know, so many people are against AI like 03:03:48.989 --> 03:03:51.870 Guillermo and, you know, love him, but he's like, 03:03:51.930 --> 03:03:54.590 fuck AI, fuck AI. But all it is is visual effects. 03:03:54.770 --> 03:03:56.670 And I have experience like with that Beowulf 03:03:56.670 --> 03:03:58.870 movie doing it. And what used to be a million 03:03:58.870 --> 03:04:01.969 dollars a minute is now $5 ,000 a minute. And 03:04:01.969 --> 03:04:04.809 so to do it really, really well, like it looks 03:04:04.809 --> 03:04:09.069 kind of amazing, actually. And so I think for 03:04:09.069 --> 03:04:11.850 independent cinema and for the future of film 03:04:11.850 --> 03:04:14.690 and television production. These are super exciting 03:04:14.690 --> 03:04:17.010 times. All right, Roger, we just burned through 03:04:17.010 --> 03:04:19.690 three hours plus. Really? Oh, my God. Yeah, it's 03:04:19.690 --> 03:04:21.190 already 4 o 'clock. I figured this out. I'll 03:04:21.190 --> 03:04:23.250 share it with you. All right, so what I pulled 03:04:23.250 --> 03:04:25.569 up is this. This is NASA, right? This is proper 03:04:25.569 --> 03:04:28.569 NASA. Let him talk. So this is a far TV. They're 03:04:28.569 --> 03:04:30.170 pulling in multiple feeds. There's three different 03:04:30.170 --> 03:04:31.969 boxes at the bottom. As you can see, this one 03:04:31.969 --> 03:04:34.930 in the middle says offline. So as I showed you 03:04:34.930 --> 03:04:37.290 also, I pulled up the NASA feed, which is this. 03:04:37.510 --> 03:04:41.629 It says it's offline. When that is offline, this 03:04:41.629 --> 03:04:44.559 channel adds a 3D model. showing where the satellite 03:04:44.559 --> 03:04:46.899 currently is so that you can still follow along. 03:04:47.719 --> 03:04:49.899 30 minutes ago, it wasn't offline. It was showing 03:04:49.899 --> 03:04:51.219 a different feed, and I wish I could have showed 03:04:51.219 --> 03:04:54.319 it to you then, but I didn't interrupt. Got it. 03:04:54.379 --> 03:04:57.659 There is a Flat Earth Reddit account asking this 03:04:57.659 --> 03:05:01.159 exact thing. What is that? And the people on 03:05:01.159 --> 03:05:04.620 the Flat Earth Reddit gave me the answer. The 03:05:04.620 --> 03:05:09.459 crazies. The crazies have come out to... Mm -hmm. 03:05:10.299 --> 03:05:12.500 Okay. There you go. So that was what that was. 03:05:13.090 --> 03:05:15.729 Well, I'm glad we put that to— So just as the 03:05:15.729 --> 03:05:17.729 video description, switch to a simulation with 03:05:17.729 --> 03:05:19.489 the ISS above the Earth when the connection is 03:05:19.489 --> 03:05:21.250 lost, a .k .a. offline. I was going to point 03:05:21.250 --> 03:05:22.670 that out because you can see the stars in there, 03:05:22.709 --> 03:05:24.170 and you can't normally see the stars while you 03:05:24.170 --> 03:05:26.409 can see the Earth. I'm glad we can be comforted 03:05:26.409 --> 03:05:29.469 by at least one thing that is secure and stable 03:05:29.469 --> 03:05:32.469 in our understanding of reality. Roger, that 03:05:32.469 --> 03:05:34.610 was very fun, though. Thank you very much. Let's 03:05:34.610 --> 03:05:36.370 do this again. Really a pleasure. It was a good 03:05:36.370 --> 03:05:37.989 time. Really super pleasure. Thank you, brother. 03:05:38.090 --> 03:05:39.850 Appreciate you very much. All right. Bye, everybody.