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Welcome to this curated educational transcript of the Joe Rogan Experience. In this session, we provide a deep-dive examination of the critical perspectives and historical dialogues presented in Episode #2451. Our mission is to offer a high-fidelity, searchable research resource for students of cultural history, emerging technology, and global discourse. This transcript has been specifically optimized for academic reference, linguistic study, and archival preservation regarding Cinematic Arts, Hollywood Industry Evolution, and Modern Media Dynamics
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Experience. Train by day. Joe Rogan Podcast by

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night. All day. Cheryl. Joe. So good to see you.

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It's really good to see you. What's happening?

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Everything. Are you good? You alright? Yeah,

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I am. I'm good now. Yeah? Woo. Woo. It's been

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a few years. I thought about you the moment Bobby

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said he was going to run for president. You were

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the first thing I thought of. Thank you. Because

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I'm a huge fan of Curb Your Enthusiasm. Thank

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you. I thought you were amazing on that show.

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Thank you. It's such a good show. Thank you.

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It's maybe one of the greatest comedy shows of

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all time. Thank you. I was like, she's not built

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for this. Turns out I'm not built for this. Nobody

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is. Trump is the only person I've ever met that

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somehow or another survives it and seems exactly

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the same. But most people who are attacked like

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that, it's just like. It is a natural human instinct

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when you are rejected by your tribe to feel terrified

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and filled with anxiety. But that's why people

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do it. And that's what encourages groupthink

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because you're terrified and you wind up agreeing

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to things that are fucking insane. Yeah. Because

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you don't even know what you're agreeing to.

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You just don't want to be rejected by your tribe.

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Yeah. And this is how they keep people involved

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in these where ideologies eventually become cults.

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Yes. And I think you can make a really good argument

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of both the right and the left. that in a certain

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section of each one of these political parties,

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it's a cult. Yes, because they're, you know,

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most of us are sort of in the center, right?

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And then you have the 10 % on this side, the

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10 % on this side that are so extreme and loud

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and they keep everybody fired up and it is cult

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-like. Right. Yeah, it's weird. It's weird to

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watch intelligent people. get captured in it.

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I was just watching this video with Bill Maher

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and Bill Maher had Adam Carolla on and Bill Maher

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was talking about how Jimmy Kimmel won't talk

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to him anymore. Like they have this like spat

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because of politics. Bill Maher is very much

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a left wing person. He has been his whole life.

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He has not changed his opinions. At all. Yeah.

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But he's always been very reasonable and willing

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to criticize the left as well as the right. Yes.

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And I don't know if it was because he had dinner

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with Trump and he met with him, which is just

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crazy. You're not supposed to talk to people

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that are the president of the United States.

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It is crazy. I know. I was just talking to Bill

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Maher and we were talking about this. Oh, yeah.

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Because he was like, you said exactly what you

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said. I sat down and had dinner with the president

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and people went insane. Yeah. And so people listen.

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I know that feeling because even when Bobby started

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running for president, even when he started running

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as a Democrat, people were angry. Well, Democrats

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were angry. They're just mean. When it comes

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to politics, people just get so mean. It's like

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these are not the type of people you ever want

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in any position of power. People are the least

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charitable, most vicious people. The moment you

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are running against them in a political party,

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they will pull out all the stops, take things

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out of context, lie about you. Yes. Even if you're

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in their party. It doesn't matter. It doesn't

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matter. 100%. That was challenging. Because,

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you know, like Hollywood is competitive and it's

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hard and you are, you know, you're hustling,

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you're working really hard, but you're not trying

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to tear other people down. Right. So politics,

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as soon as you say, as soon as he said, I, well,

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no, I'm sorry. Before that, people were coming

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after him. They were always coming after him.

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They were always coming after him. But it kicked

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up a notch when he decided to run for president.

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Oh, a big notch, I'm sure. Yeah. And it's just

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weird, you know. And there was like a feeling

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of doom for me. Bobby's tough. He's so friggin'

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tough. Well, they've been coming after him for

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like 20 years. Yeah. So he's just developed a

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rhino skin. Yeah. And I, you know, and I was

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I was like, oh, my God, I'm not going to make

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it. You know, a good indication how they come

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after themselves, each other rather, is during

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the debate with Kamala and Biden. When Kamala

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was accusing Biden of at the very least sexual

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assault. Right. Like this sort of creepy. Yeah.

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Yeah. It seemed like she was accusing him of

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sexual assault. And then when they confronted

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her on it, she's like, it was a debate. That's

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literally what she said. That is the really strange

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thing about politics that I'm still getting used

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to is they will viciously attack each other.

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And then a minute later in the hallway, it's

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like, hey, how's it going? And I'm still in shock,

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you know. I'm still angry about what just happened

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in there. And they're already over it. And they're

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already like, yeah, that's politics. That's what

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we do. Did you ever see the debates with Mitt

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Romney and Barack Obama? I'm sure I did. Jamie,

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see if you can pull some of that up. God, why

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can't we go back to that? Oh, was it like civilized?

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Oh, completely. Yeah. For Mitt Romney, Mitt Romney's

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like, he's Mormon, like super religious guy.

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Never swears. Probably doesn't do anything. Right.

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Yeah. So he's like super polite. Yes. And then

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Barack Obama, because, you know, they're matching

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each other's energy. He was very polite, too.

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They disagreed on many things, but they were

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talking about what they wanted to do. Right.

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Not how this guy's a piece of shit and they've

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been stealing and robbing and this and that.

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Or, you know, how they look turned into that.

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That's Trump. Which is crazy when you look like

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that. You know what I'm saying? It's like the

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guy makes fun of his own hair. Like he makes

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fun of his comb over. He's like, but here it

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is. Governor Romney and the University of Denver

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for your hospitality. The only person in this

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stage is a convicted feminist man. OK, this is

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just a comparison between that was the Biden

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ones with Trump were the worst because they're

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trying to map Trump's energy, match Trump's energy.

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Well, they didn't know how to debate him. Yeah,

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that's what. I think he does well. If you want

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to diffuse that. Yeah. Which you would say is

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like this is not productive for anybody. Right.

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Like if you want to have like a completely separate

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conversation about who's a bigger piece of shit

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and you want to do a podcast and you and me talk

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about how I think you're a piece of shit. You

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think I'm a piece of shit. That's one thing.

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But you have X amount of time to say how you're

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going to run the country. And what you think

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is wrong with the policies. Yeah. What you think

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is wrong with where we're spending money. Yeah.

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What you think was all the above. Yes. Yeah,

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that's what you're supposed to do. Yes. And the

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idea that you can't win that way is crazy. It

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is crazy. It's crazy. And it's really weird,

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too, that a lot, some, not all, politicians really

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work on, I got to get a catchphrase in there.

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Well, Trump's really good at that. Like, he names

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people, Crooked Hillary, Sleepy Joe. It works.

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It works. It did work. I mean, because people

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get so thrown off, they... They don't know how

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to respond. Like you said, that's what they should

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say. But they just get so thrown off that it's

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just paralyzing. Well, at least in this day and

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age, there's a method through social media for

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you to respond. If something you think is inaccurate

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or whatever, you respond. But there was a time

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where there was nothing. yeah and whatever political

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party was in power they controlled everything

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they controlled all the news stories about you

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they controlled everything there's a great story

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With Hunter S. Thompson and Ed Muskie's running

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for president. And Hunter S. Thompson makes this

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crazy rumor about how he's addicted to Ibogaine.

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And he has a Brazilian witch doctor comes in

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and treats him. And this guy literally cracks

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on the campaign trail because Hunter S. Thompson

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said this, made up this crazy story about him.

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And this guy, you see him having nervous breakdowns

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on the campaign trail. Like his subsequent speeches

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are all like nuts and he falls off. Yeah. But

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he was like a front runner at one point in time.

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Or at least he was very competitive and it just.

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Yeah. They killed him. Well, it's the power of

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words. Yes. Which, by the way, you know, when

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Bobby decided to run, and I talk about this in

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my book, Unscripted, when he came on your podcast

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was a game changer, right? Because everything

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that you're saying is true, and the press was

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going hard. They still do. They're going they

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were going hard at Bobby like he's this, he's

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that. Here's what he thinks. Here's what he represents.

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And then he came on your podcast and you guys

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had a conversation. Yeah. And, you know, you're

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curious and you're a great listener and you're

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not judgmental. And people heard what Bobby had

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to say. And it changed everything for him. Well,

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I think it helped also that I knew who he was.

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I read his book and I had also had negative opinions

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of him before I actually read what he said. Interesting.

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What were your opinions? Before the pandemic,

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I was firmly on the side of science. I was much

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more of a left wing leaning person. I just assumed

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these people running universities, these academics,

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whatever they said was accurate. Everybody else

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was a fool and they believed in snake oil and

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witchcraft. This is what I thought. And then

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during the pandemic, I was like, OK, these experts

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are clearly lying. I know they're lying because

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they're literally lying about me. Right. Which

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was crazy. So when you're in it and you know

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who you are and you know how you're feeling and

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what your body is doing and other people, news

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outlets are saying, uh -uh, that's not true.

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It's got to feel so weird. Well, it felt really

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weird because they weren't addressing the fact

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that I was healthy. That was crazy. So you're

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talking about this massive pandemic and you've

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got this guy in his 50s. You know, I'm supposed

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to be a vulnerable person. And I'm in my 50s

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and I got over it in a couple of days and I'm

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telling everybody how I did it. And they're saying

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that I'm some quack who's taking veterinary medicine.

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Right. Which is just a was just a flat out lie.

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But it was weird. Yeah. It was weird to watch.

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It didn't like it didn't give me anxiety. It

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made me laugh a lot. I laughed a lot. Yeah. Because

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fortunately, during this entire time period,

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I was doing stand up and hanging out with comedians.

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We all thought it was so funny. Like, bro, CNN

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is so full of shit. This is crazy. I never would

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have believed it. Yeah. And you have this outlet

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and you were able to talk about it. Right. And

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tell people. So it's like. They thought they

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were picking on me because they thought they

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were the bully. But during the whole exchange,

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they went, oh, my God, this thing's way bigger

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than we thought it was. Yeah. So my show was

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like 10 times more listeners and viewers than

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their show, which is crazy. Because all I can

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do is come on here and go, are you fucking out

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of your – do I need to sue you people? You guys

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are cracked. It is crazy. It's crazy. So, yeah.

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So you saw things firsthand that you hadn't experienced

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before. Yeah. And then when I read Bobby's book,

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one of the things that I knew about Bobby before.

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The Fauci book? Yes. The real Anthony Fauci,

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which was just. I would read it. I would listen

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to it on audio tape in the sauna. So I'm sitting

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there cooking at 196 degrees. Well, you're already

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kind of freaking out. You can only stay in there

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so long before you die. You know, that's the

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whole key of the sauna. You get it way before

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you're going to die. That's when you get out.

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But if you stayed in there for a few hours, you're

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a dead man. And so I'm kind of freaking out already.

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And I'm like, this is the nuttiest story of one

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guy and his cohorts. who have been doing this

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kind of shit, the same shit they were doing during

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the pandemic, suppressing other medication, promoting

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something that they had that they were going

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to make a massive profit off of, gaslighting

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people, lying about the data, lying about, this

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is the thing they did during the AIDS crisis.

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Yeah. And there are footnote after footnote,

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reference after reference. Exactly. Saying this

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is, here's this, here's that. I'm not making

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this up. No lawsuits. No one's tried to sue him.

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And this is one thing I keep bringing up. If

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that was lies, people would have – they would

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document how it's not true. They would show the

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actual paperwork. They would show the actual

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data. This is how it's not – no, it's all true,

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which is – You go, well, how do I not know this?

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And what kind of irresponsible journalism do

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we have in this country where this has happened

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and it takes this one guy to publish this book

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before people start talking about it? I also

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knew his work as an environmental attorney. I

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think that's a very important thing for people

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to realize. What he did was essentially help

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clean up the East River. And if it wasn't for

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him and his work, that would still be probably

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a polluted shithole unless somebody else came

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along and stopped these corporations. from polluting

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the river and then force them to clean it up.

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Right. That's gigantic. And by the way, when

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people talk about Bobby and they want to paint

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him as somebody who is trying to hurt people

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or kill people or whatever that sounds like or

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looks like, when you look at his career and who

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he is and what he's accomplished, yeah, he spent

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a lot of time suing. huge corporations because

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they're polluting waterways because it's hurting

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people, killing people, giving people cancer.

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So why would he spend all of his life fighting

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for people, fighting for individuals, you know,

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and then suddenly change and want to really hurt?

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A lot of people. It just doesn't track. It doesn't

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make sense at all. Well, the whole thing came

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about because of vaccines and his questioning

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of the vaccine narrative, which is now way more

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mainstream, because I, like many people, said

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the scientists must be correct. Everybody else

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is a kook. You got to get your vaccines, got

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to do whatever you have to do. But I was also.

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pretty aware of, I had a friend who had a child

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that they vaccinated him. And when they vaccinated

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him, he stopped responding and he never responded

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again. He became nonverbal autistic for his whole

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life. And he firmly believed it was because of

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the child's reaction to the vaccines. That's

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a taboo to bring up. When you bring that up,

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people immediately back off. They get scared.

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They get nervous. I firmly believe that when

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you have this sort of a visceral reaction to

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any sort of a subject like that without a rational

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examining of what is objective truth, when you

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have that visceral reaction, something's happened.

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You've been co -opted. There's a thought in your

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head that you can't question this or you'll be

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ostracized. You'll be cast out of the crew, the

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tribe. You're out. Yeah. And that's what everyone's

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afraid of. That is what because that is what

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happens as we as we've seen. But to that point,

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you know, as mother, I it's so frustrating to

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hear parents say this is my experiences. The

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experience I had with my own child and with this

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child every day after the vaccine, there was

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a change. This is what this is my experience.

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And for people to. Get mad at them for even,

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like you're saying, talking about it. They're

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not allowed to talk about the experience they

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had or ask why it happened or, you know, let

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people talk to each other to see if they have

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shared experiences that can lead us to something

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better. Right. It's crazy. It's crazy. And it

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shouldn't be accepted. We shouldn't communicate

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like that. It's not smart. It's we've been lied

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to so many times. I mean, why would you just

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assume that that stopped, that that has ended?

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You know, if you just go back and think about

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all the different things that both the government

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and, of course, pharmaceutical drug companies

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have lied about or at least been wrong about

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the amount of drugs that they had to pull. It's

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substantial. It's a giant chunk. Well, that's

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the question. So we understand and accept that

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there have been drugs out there. That everybody

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thought were good, were helpful. And then 10

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years later, 20 years later, the companies, scientists,

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whomever, realize, oh, actually, they're doing

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more harm than good. What about thalidomide?

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Like what it did with birth defects in children?

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It's crazy. They used to prescribe that to mothers.

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Well, it's even like getting x -rayed. Yeah.

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You used to have mothers, you know, that were

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pregnant. X -rayed to see how the baby was doing

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for a long time. It would be cool if it gave

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the baby superpowers, but it never does. It only

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happens in the science. Yeah, it never works

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out in the good way. Only in comic books and

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science fiction. Yeah. If you feel a little off,

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it's okay. It's February. Everybody feels a little

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off in February. It's darker. It's colder. You

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probably already gave up on some New Year's resolutions.

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small changes to your routine, and one of those

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is AG1. It's not some big dramatic reset. It's

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And this is the time of year when it can really

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help. If you want to check it out, go to drinkag1

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.com. Yeah, it's intense. Do you ever see those

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images of what happened to the women that used

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to work in those x -ray offices? So every day

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they used to have to turn on the x -ray machine

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and they would x -ray their hand to make sure

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that it would work. And they all got like hand

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cancer. Oh, it's horrible. It's weird because

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they have one hand that looks normal and one

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hand that looks like a wicked witch hand. Right.

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See if you can find some of those. It's very

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strict because we didn't know any better. Right,

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because nobody was out to kill anybody, to murder,

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to do harm, but it was doing harm. So let's take

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a step back, readjust, and do something different.

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Well, the extreme amount of money that pharmaceutical

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drug companies have. put into making sure that

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they're in control of the narrative, or at least

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they're influencing the narrative. It's like,

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this is this lady. Wow. Isn't that crazy? Isn't

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that crazy? That's crazy. And that's just from

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x -raying your hand. They would use it to calibrate

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the machine every day. Oh, my God. They would

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test their hand first. That lady cooked her hand.

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Isn't that awful? Oh, it's so spooky. That's

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really crazy. Yikes. You're not going to have

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the answer to this, but what are the things that

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we have to go through in the airport? Oh, the

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TSA? That's radio. Yeah, that's like a radio

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frequency, right? What is that? Let's pull that

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up. I do not think that that's dangerous. But

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look, there's a lot of people that think Wi -Fi

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is dangerous. There's a lot of people that think

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that 5G is dangerous. They think that EMF from

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even electric cars is dangerous. There's people

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telling you you shouldn't have earbuds in your

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ears. You should only listen with a cord or a

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speaker if you can. Right. Well, it makes sense.

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You've got things going directly into your head,

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to your brain. It's probably not the best thing

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for you, but it's like how many people are wearing

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AirPods and how little damage is it actually

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doing? That's the question. It's like what is

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the real issue? Most TSA body scanners use millimeter

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wave radio waves, so not x -rays, and do not

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add to your ionizing radiation exposure. So it's

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not x -ray based, right? It's radio wave, but

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is it? What is it? Is it dangerous? How does

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the dose compare to a flight? What is that? X

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-ray scanners? That's just scanners. Is there

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any damage? I have blind faith that this is okay.

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Follow -up. Millimeter wave scanner radiation.

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Is it dangerous? Is there any dangerous aspects

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of it? Health and radiation protection agencies

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note that doses from older backscatter x -ray

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scanners were extremely low. Whatever. Meanwhile,

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they fucking don't go anywhere near it when they

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turn it on. Exactly. When you go to the dentist's

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office, they hide behind a brick wall. No, they

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go into the other room and you're like, what?

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They're in a fucking bunker. This thing is like

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right next to my head. I know. And they make

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you wear like a lead vest over your body. Yeah,

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it's intense. Do they still do that? Yes. Yeah.

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Yes. I haven't gotten one of those with the lead

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vest in a while. No, and you're right. They go

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into the other room, and they're like, don't

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move. You're just sitting there with a thing

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on your head. If there's any worries anyone should

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have about these body scanners, let's see. I

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mean, I don't want to—I'm not causing any— Outrage

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here. I'm just curious. Yeah, it's curious. I

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don't think the TSA ones are dangerous. Major

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health agencies did not see any proven health

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risk at the levels used, but people still raise

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a few practical concerns. So millimeter wave

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scanners use low power, non -ionizing radio waves.

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Studies and reviews have not found harmful effects

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at the power levels used in airport screening.

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Sensitive groups, analysis that modeled risk

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for children, pregnant people. What? Why does

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it say pregnant people? Which kind of people

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can get pregnant? Do you think, hey, AI, hey,

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super genius, you think maybe it's women, you

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fucking asshole? And frequent flyers still found

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that low added risk from backscatter scanners,

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far below routine medical x -rays, or even the

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radiation from flying itself. Well, that is a

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thing, too. Oh, right, radiation in the plane.

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Flying, when you're flying. I mean, there's so

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many things. Isn't it just like, we're all going

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down. Put that into perplexity. Please. What

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is, why is flying, why does that give you radiation?

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Is it because you're closer to the sun? Like,

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what is it? Less protection? Yes. Yeah? Is that

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what it is? Yes. Is that all it is? Yeah, mostly.

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You're up high? Yeah, there's not a lot of stuff

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to diffuse it. Less air, right? Something I saw

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someone bring up recently, too. having those

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screens right behind your head because there's

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one in there. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's got to be

00:23:11.400 --> 00:23:15.019
bad for you. Well, Wi -Fi on the plane, it's

00:23:15.019 --> 00:23:18.079
like just bouncing around. Yeah, Wi -Fi. Well,

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they used to be able to smoke. Which is crazy.

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The plane that I was on had the no smoking sign.

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Well, I would feel super uncomfortable getting

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on that plane. It's not a good feeling. That's

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an old -ass plane. When you're like, okay, thank

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you. How old is this fucking plane? They used

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to have little ashtrays. Remember those? Yes.

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In the seats? And that's really crazy. In a typical

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commercial flight, you get a small dose of extra

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cosmic radiation on the order of what you expect

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from a medical x -ray spread out over several

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hours. Whoa. So every time you fly, it's like

00:23:48.769 --> 00:23:51.089
getting x -rayed? That's kind of crazy. What

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happens to pilots? Yeah, that's a good question.

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Do pilots have any health risks from radiation

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exposure while flying? Yeah, that's a good question.

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Because I would imagine if you're flying all

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the time. They're the ones that would. It's like

00:24:07.609 --> 00:24:12.289
getting an x -ray every day. That's, I mean,

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everything is. Killing us, right? That's why

00:24:15.250 --> 00:24:17.089
I came on. I wanted to hear what's going to kill

00:24:17.089 --> 00:24:20.990
us first. There's so many things. This is going

00:24:20.990 --> 00:24:24.609
to be like a meteorite that's going to hit us

00:24:24.609 --> 00:24:26.900
first. But there's a lot of stuff keeping us

00:24:26.900 --> 00:24:29.579
alive longer now, too. Pilots and other air crew

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do get more radiation than typical travelers.

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But whether that causes health problems is still

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being studied. And any added risk appears modest

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on a personal level. Like, they would be the

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ones that you would be able to study from the

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best, whether or not flying. And flight attendants,

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whether or not flying is actually bad for you.

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Well, we haven't heard anything yet. No. So that's

00:24:47.890 --> 00:24:49.470
good news. You would imagine that you've been

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flying a long time. Somebody would have said

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something. Many studies find pilots and flight

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attendants have higher rates of some cancers,

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especially melanoma and other skin cancers, and

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in some studies, breast cancer. However, reviews

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say it's not clear how much of it is from cosmic

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radiation versus other factors such as disrupted

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sleep. That's true. Like UV exposure during off

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time and lifestyle. Firm causal link to flight

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radiation alone has not been established. That

00:25:16.430 --> 00:25:18.269
does make sense with the disrupted sleep because

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I talked to a pilot once who did like a lot of

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late night flights. And it's like your whole

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body is just so wrecked. Like people who do the

00:25:25.789 --> 00:25:27.970
night shift. Yeah. That can't be good for you.

00:25:28.049 --> 00:25:30.069
Your circadian rhythm is all fucked up. You're

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sleeping during the day. But can't you adjust

00:25:31.109 --> 00:25:34.009
though? Can't you adjust? If you can. But if

00:25:34.009 --> 00:25:36.609
you're the guy who gets the night shift every

00:25:36.609 --> 00:25:38.609
night. Yeah. You know, you're working at a factory

00:25:38.609 --> 00:25:42.309
and you punch in at like 8 p .m. Like you're

00:25:42.309 --> 00:25:45.009
not, that's just your life, man. That's how you

00:25:45.009 --> 00:25:48.829
live. It's like shooting a film and you do like

00:25:48.829 --> 00:25:53.390
three or four night shoots. Someone snaps. yeah

00:25:53.390 --> 00:25:56.230
there's always one person that just like can't

00:25:56.230 --> 00:26:00.210
handle it freaking crazy oh no chad just went

00:26:00.210 --> 00:26:03.049
we just lost chad i don't know what happened

00:26:03.049 --> 00:26:05.210
to him but he freaked out some people when they

00:26:05.210 --> 00:26:07.990
can't sleep they become big babies yeah very

00:26:07.990 --> 00:26:10.829
emotional yeah very emotional well there's a

00:26:10.829 --> 00:26:14.450
thing there's an indulgence on sets too from

00:26:14.450 --> 00:26:19.509
actors that's like There's kind of a lack of

00:26:19.509 --> 00:26:22.509
appreciation sometimes because you just get accustomed

00:26:22.509 --> 00:26:24.990
to it of how fortunate you are to be able to

00:26:24.990 --> 00:26:28.250
do what you do. Very few people get to be an

00:26:28.250 --> 00:26:31.069
actor in a movie and you're spazzing out because

00:26:31.069 --> 00:26:33.150
you didn't get enough sleep. Yeah, and meanwhile

00:26:33.150 --> 00:26:35.869
the crew really didn't get enough sleep. They

00:26:35.869 --> 00:26:37.210
didn't get enough sleep either. They're working

00:26:37.210 --> 00:26:39.690
two hours before you and two hours after. But

00:26:39.690 --> 00:26:41.670
if they spaz out, they'll get fired. Yeah, immediately.

00:26:42.069 --> 00:26:44.329
Yeah, and that's the difference. It's not an

00:26:44.329 --> 00:26:47.930
equality thing. No. They're aware they're like

00:26:47.930 --> 00:26:50.690
royalty walking around this film set. You know,

00:26:50.690 --> 00:26:53.289
it's kind of odd. Well, it is odd. And at the

00:26:53.289 --> 00:26:59.990
same time, it's a very unique experience, right?

00:27:00.029 --> 00:27:02.630
Because this person has to be on camera. And

00:27:02.630 --> 00:27:06.930
every inch of their face is, you know, going

00:27:06.930 --> 00:27:10.869
to be six feet tall in a movie theater. And so

00:27:10.869 --> 00:27:14.009
everybody's just making sure that person is.

00:27:14.700 --> 00:27:18.319
doing okay and they look okay and they feel okay.

00:27:18.420 --> 00:27:21.700
Because if they don't, then you don't have anything.

00:27:21.859 --> 00:27:23.640
You don't have anything to shoot. So everybody

00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:27.420
is just like, are you okay? Are you feeling okay?

00:27:27.619 --> 00:27:29.380
Are you hydrated? Do you need water? Do you need

00:27:29.380 --> 00:27:32.900
a piece of turkey? Well, the results of that,

00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:35.940
like psychologically over a prolonged period

00:27:35.940 --> 00:27:39.319
of time, people usually get really weird. Yeah,

00:27:39.339 --> 00:27:42.259
agree. That's the... their normal experience.

00:27:42.359 --> 00:27:44.259
Yeah. Is everybody's treating them like, I need

00:27:44.259 --> 00:27:48.059
to get your hair. I need to get your lips. It's

00:27:48.059 --> 00:27:50.440
true. Brush your shoulders off. It's true. It's

00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:52.799
kooky. It's kooky. And that's why, you know,

00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:55.240
the people that start early, especially that

00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:58.700
have success early. Oh, yeah. It's not good.

00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:02.240
It's not a good way to kick off your life. It's

00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:03.980
like this is not normal. If you think this is

00:28:03.980 --> 00:28:06.619
normal, you're going to be real sad in a few

00:28:06.619 --> 00:28:09.839
years. And I don't think you can recover from

00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:12.460
a bad developmental period that way. It's hard.

00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:14.599
It's different. It's different than anything

00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:16.619
else. Like you could have a bad childhood and

00:28:16.619 --> 00:28:18.900
it'll make you more resilient. But a bad childhood

00:28:18.900 --> 00:28:22.099
in front of the whole world. And you've never

00:28:22.099 --> 00:28:24.400
had to really work and you've never had to really

00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:26.180
struggle and you've been famous since you were

00:28:26.180 --> 00:28:27.779
young. So your interactions with people from

00:28:27.779 --> 00:28:29.619
the time you were young is people loving you

00:28:29.619 --> 00:28:32.599
for your work, which is not good for kids. No,

00:28:32.700 --> 00:28:34.720
it's not. And the way you look. Right. That's

00:28:34.720 --> 00:28:36.880
a big part of it, which is hard. Yeah. It's not

00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:39.880
just your work. You know, it's like what we're

00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:42.099
talking about. You have to look good. Right.

00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:43.619
While you're doing it. That's part of the job.

00:28:43.660 --> 00:28:45.900
Especially as a woman. That's a big factor. But

00:28:45.900 --> 00:28:49.240
I always liken it to like concrete. Like if you

00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:52.480
make concrete incorrectly, so like if you decide

00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:54.599
to mix it but you don't add enough water or you

00:28:54.599 --> 00:28:56.819
don't – it's only you can add water later once

00:28:56.819 --> 00:28:59.160
it's solid. It's like that's what it is. It's

00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:01.220
going to be lumpy. It's just going to be sucky,

00:29:01.220 --> 00:29:03.619
weak -ass concrete that's going to break. Wait.

00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:06.140
When did you get – what was your first break?

00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:08.759
Was it news radio? Yeah. Well, I was on another

00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:11.309
show before news radio called Hardball. It was

00:29:11.309 --> 00:29:13.609
a sitcom that was on Fox. That's what I actually

00:29:13.609 --> 00:29:17.109
moved out to L .A. for. And if that show got

00:29:17.109 --> 00:29:19.390
canceled and if I didn't have a lease on an apartment,

00:29:19.650 --> 00:29:21.630
I would have went back to New York. I hated it.

00:29:21.910 --> 00:29:25.970
Why did you hate it? Well, I didn't like the

00:29:25.970 --> 00:29:32.890
whole scene. I was used to fight gyms, pool halls,

00:29:33.109 --> 00:29:35.069
and comedy clubs. Those are the people I was

00:29:35.069 --> 00:29:40.089
used to. They're the funniest, like most... brash

00:29:40.089 --> 00:29:42.990
blunt people and everybody's cracking on everybody

00:29:42.990 --> 00:29:45.950
and it's like it's jolly these those are jolly

00:29:45.950 --> 00:29:48.809
places for the most part yeah and then i went

00:29:48.809 --> 00:29:52.250
from there to this weird world of groupthink

00:29:52.250 --> 00:29:55.210
and uh seeing people read the hollywood reporter

00:29:55.210 --> 00:29:57.829
every day and get really upset yeah and i would

00:29:57.829 --> 00:29:59.369
keep telling them like that's the devil's rag

00:29:59.369 --> 00:30:01.369
like why are you reading that like don't read

00:30:01.369 --> 00:30:03.670
that right because they're just mad that they

00:30:03.670 --> 00:30:06.259
didn't get the role or they didn't get the The

00:30:06.259 --> 00:30:09.640
film or whatever, it is odd, but yes. It's kooky,

00:30:09.720 --> 00:30:13.720
and it's also the group thing. I saw it right

00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:16.359
away. If a film was really good, if everybody

00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:17.920
decided it was really good, you had to say it

00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:19.380
was really good. You couldn't say, I fucking

00:30:19.380 --> 00:30:21.900
hated that movie. There was this Jack Nicholson

00:30:21.900 --> 00:30:25.619
movie where he played this asshole, and I think

00:30:25.619 --> 00:30:28.500
it was Helen Hunt. As Good As It Gets? Yes, that

00:30:28.500 --> 00:30:32.349
one. And I was like, Jesus Christ. The whole

00:30:32.349 --> 00:30:34.609
idea was that he was a fucked up dude because

00:30:34.609 --> 00:30:36.589
he was on some sort of a medication. That medication

00:30:36.589 --> 00:30:40.390
made him racist. It didn't make any sense. The

00:30:40.390 --> 00:30:45.069
whole thing was nuts. And I remember everybody

00:30:45.069 --> 00:30:46.950
saying, what an amazing movie. I'm like, God,

00:30:46.990 --> 00:30:48.569
I felt bad for her. Get the fuck out of that

00:30:48.569 --> 00:30:50.289
relationship. Find someone who's nice to you.

00:30:50.329 --> 00:30:53.960
This is crazy. Yeah. This is crazy. Racist. It

00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:56.440
didn't make any sense. And I remember like arguing

00:30:56.440 --> 00:30:58.339
with people on a set about it. And like they

00:30:58.339 --> 00:31:00.819
were all like, oh, I thought it was an amazing

00:31:00.819 --> 00:31:02.819
film. Like they had to say it. Right. It was

00:31:02.819 --> 00:31:04.859
Jack Nicholson. Right. It was an amazing movie.

00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:07.259
Right. That movie was fucking depressing, man.

00:31:07.339 --> 00:31:10.140
Like that was all that poor lady had. Yeah. This

00:31:10.140 --> 00:31:12.940
fucking asshole, this old asshole. It was like

00:31:12.940 --> 00:31:15.759
the movie Precious. I didn't see that. Yeah.

00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:18.059
I heard that was a rough one. It's just you're

00:31:18.059 --> 00:31:20.980
just watching it and you're like, whoa. Nothing

00:31:20.980 --> 00:31:24.200
else bad could happen. And then it's... Another

00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:26.279
thing happens. No, it just gets worse. And by

00:31:26.279 --> 00:31:30.619
the end of it, you're just feeling like, why

00:31:30.619 --> 00:31:33.819
are we alive? I don't like those kind of movies.

00:31:33.900 --> 00:31:35.359
I don't want to feel depressed in a movie. No.

00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:39.059
Okay, so then you got... Then news radio. News

00:31:39.059 --> 00:31:42.839
radio. So I stayed in L .A. just because I had

00:31:42.839 --> 00:31:46.160
a lease. That was it. I'm not kidding. I was

00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:48.200
so ready to go. You were not going to break that

00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:49.819
lease. I was trying to say, I didn't have the

00:31:49.819 --> 00:31:52.940
money. I was like, okay, I have some money because

00:31:52.940 --> 00:31:55.200
I did the sitcom for six episodes. So I had some

00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:56.900
money. So I was like, how much money would it

00:31:56.900 --> 00:31:59.440
cost me to just fucking pay this lease off and

00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:02.940
just jet? And I was like, I'll just stay here.

00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:04.779
And then I got another development deal. I got

00:32:04.779 --> 00:32:07.259
a development deal with NBC. And they had this

00:32:07.259 --> 00:32:09.730
pot before I. Did a show. They said, we have

00:32:09.730 --> 00:32:11.750
this show that we have a pilot for, but we're

00:32:11.750 --> 00:32:13.769
going to fire this one person on the pilot. And

00:32:13.769 --> 00:32:16.069
would you come in and read for us? Did you know

00:32:16.069 --> 00:32:20.250
who was being fired? Yeah. Well, it was actually

00:32:20.250 --> 00:32:22.869
a friend of mine. Did you know at the time? Well,

00:32:22.869 --> 00:32:23.910
he got replaced. Because it's hard to replace

00:32:23.910 --> 00:32:26.529
somebody. It's Ray Romano. Oh. Who's a good friend

00:32:26.529 --> 00:32:27.950
of mine. He's a friend of mine. He's awesome.

00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:31.099
And I had worked with Ray like multiple times

00:32:31.099 --> 00:32:33.480
in New York. But Ray got fired and then they

00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:34.960
replaced him with another guy who was in the

00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:37.059
pilot. And then they decided to fire that guy.

00:32:37.220 --> 00:32:39.319
So I was like, OK, well, at least I'm not taking

00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:42.420
Ray's job. But then Ray went on to do Everybody

00:32:42.420 --> 00:32:44.539
Loves Raymond. Yeah, he did OK. Him getting fired

00:32:44.539 --> 00:32:45.880
was the best thing that ever happened to him.

00:32:46.430 --> 00:32:50.309
So then I go in and they let me watch the pilot.

00:32:50.390 --> 00:32:52.609
It was already made. And so I got to see, it's

00:32:52.609 --> 00:32:55.029
Phil Hartman and Dave Foley and Candy Alexander

00:32:55.029 --> 00:32:57.970
and Maura Tierney and Andy Dick and Steven Root.

00:32:57.970 --> 00:33:00.910
I'm like, holy shit. Yeah. I can be on this show?

00:33:00.990 --> 00:33:03.950
This show is amazing. So I did that. Then I did

00:33:03.950 --> 00:33:09.190
Fear Factor. How long was News Radio? Five years.

00:33:09.609 --> 00:33:13.839
Wow. Yeah. But it really wasn't popular. It was

00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:16.700
only popular on reruns. Really? Yeah, once it

00:33:16.700 --> 00:33:18.880
got into syndication. Because we moved around,

00:33:19.059 --> 00:33:21.000
like, over the course of five years, we moved

00:33:21.000 --> 00:33:25.000
nine times, I believe. When you were doing news

00:33:25.000 --> 00:33:28.279
radio, that's right, I don't know what years.

00:33:28.700 --> 00:33:33.740
It was 94 to 99. Okay. So I got Curb Your Enthusiasm

00:33:33.740 --> 00:33:38.859
in 99. So before that, I was working for Robin

00:33:38.859 --> 00:33:42.339
Michelle Reiner. as a personal assistant. And

00:33:42.339 --> 00:33:47.200
I was also doing like catering at night sometimes

00:33:47.200 --> 00:33:50.980
just to make ends meet. And one of my jobs when,

00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:53.079
and I never knew what the job would be, you know,

00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:55.539
they'd say show up here at whatever, five o 'clock.

00:33:55.960 --> 00:34:00.160
One of my jobs one time was news radio. There

00:34:00.160 --> 00:34:05.259
was a little green room where, you know, agents

00:34:05.259 --> 00:34:10.199
and people, VIP. And I was in charge of Oh, like

00:34:10.199 --> 00:34:13.079
making sure the food on the table looked good.

00:34:13.219 --> 00:34:16.800
That's hilarious. I just stood there for hours.

00:34:17.360 --> 00:34:19.440
I think Phil Hartman came in and was like, hey,

00:34:19.500 --> 00:34:22.500
I didn't know him at the time I met him. And

00:34:22.500 --> 00:34:26.400
he said, oh, you know, who are you here to see?

00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:29.340
I said, oh, I'm just in charge of this table.

00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:34.239
But that was my big job for the night. My friend

00:34:34.239 --> 00:34:38.699
Joey Diaz, who is—at that time, he had just recently

00:34:38.699 --> 00:34:41.619
gotten out of jail. He came to visit me on the

00:34:41.619 --> 00:34:44.800
set, and he realized that the good food was all

00:34:44.800 --> 00:34:47.460
in the VIP green room. Yeah, that's right. And

00:34:47.460 --> 00:34:51.510
he's like— He got overweight for a while, but

00:34:51.510 --> 00:34:53.429
back then he wasn't. Back then he just looked

00:34:53.429 --> 00:34:55.250
like a big football player. He was like a big,

00:34:55.289 --> 00:34:57.929
scary -looking Cuban guy. And he was in there

00:34:57.929 --> 00:34:59.409
eating a shrimp cocktail. And they were like,

00:34:59.489 --> 00:35:02.710
who is the scary guy that's eating? And is he

00:35:02.710 --> 00:35:04.610
supposed to be in here? They all, like, freaked

00:35:04.610 --> 00:35:07.090
out because Joey went into, like, the super secret

00:35:07.090 --> 00:35:09.010
room. And I was wondering. I wonder if he went

00:35:09.010 --> 00:35:10.670
in there when you were in there. Oh, could you

00:35:10.670 --> 00:35:13.469
imagine? If I was like, excuse me, sir, you can

00:35:13.469 --> 00:35:17.250
only have six shrimp. I have to watch the table.

00:35:17.530 --> 00:35:19.559
Well, he wasn't supposed to be in there. He was

00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:21.179
just my friend hanging out. He just went in there.

00:35:21.239 --> 00:35:22.820
He's like, this is where the good food is. And

00:35:22.820 --> 00:35:24.619
he went in there and started chowing down. They

00:35:24.619 --> 00:35:27.539
were all freaking out. It was very funny. It

00:35:27.539 --> 00:35:30.820
was very funny. But did you like L .A. any better

00:35:30.820 --> 00:35:35.019
when you were doing news radio? I always wanted

00:35:35.019 --> 00:35:37.860
to leave. I always felt like it was radioactive.

00:35:38.590 --> 00:35:40.510
I always felt like there's a part of this. Look,

00:35:40.630 --> 00:35:42.869
the weather's great. It's beautiful. The Comedy

00:35:42.869 --> 00:35:45.269
Store was amazing. It was great to have that

00:35:45.269 --> 00:35:47.849
place, but there's too many people. When there's

00:35:47.849 --> 00:35:49.889
that many people, I think you devalue people.

00:35:50.170 --> 00:35:52.469
I don't think people are worthwhile to you. I

00:35:52.469 --> 00:35:54.550
think people are way better off living in a small

00:35:54.550 --> 00:35:57.389
town or a small city. I think it's healthier.

00:35:57.650 --> 00:36:00.369
It's more community. Yeah, I just think when

00:36:00.369 --> 00:36:02.550
people become a... When you get on the highway

00:36:02.550 --> 00:36:04.969
and you see millions of people, like, fuck. And

00:36:04.969 --> 00:36:07.969
you see, like, the 405 at, like, 4 p .m. It's

00:36:07.969 --> 00:36:10.940
kooky. And it's, like, 10 lanes. Mm -hmm. Just

00:36:10.940 --> 00:36:13.880
bumper to bumper in both directions. And everybody

00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:16.139
thinks that everybody else is annoying because

00:36:16.139 --> 00:36:19.880
you're in your way. Oh, you mean on the road.

00:36:20.179 --> 00:36:22.519
Yeah. People that get in front of you. Like you're

00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:23.980
not going anywhere and someone decides to get

00:36:23.980 --> 00:36:25.360
in front of you. Like who's this fucking guy?

00:36:25.579 --> 00:36:27.659
It's true. Everybody gets crazy. It is true.

00:36:27.820 --> 00:36:30.199
Not healthy. No. I felt like that wasn't healthy

00:36:30.199 --> 00:36:33.840
and I really hated the whole. mentality behind

00:36:33.840 --> 00:36:35.659
the groupthink that was a part of Hollywood.

00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:38.079
Because everybody's trying to get cast in something.

00:36:38.179 --> 00:36:40.199
And in order to get cast in something, you have

00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:42.599
to be, you have to ingratiate yourself with the

00:36:42.599 --> 00:36:44.760
producers and the casting directors. Everybody

00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:46.860
has to like you. So you have to have the same

00:36:46.860 --> 00:36:49.320
opinions as they do. And if you don't, you have

00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:52.019
to fake it. And I was like, this is gross. This

00:36:52.019 --> 00:36:54.539
is gross. The way they behave is gross. The casting

00:36:54.539 --> 00:36:56.780
people would treat you as gross. I didn't like

00:36:56.780 --> 00:36:59.420
it at all. What, you mean just going in and auditioning?

00:36:59.619 --> 00:37:01.880
No, it was hard. Well, there was a lot of it.

00:37:02.059 --> 00:37:04.300
there was like this arrogance, this like this,

00:37:04.380 --> 00:37:06.360
like they're giving you this chance. So they're

00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:08.300
like really arrogant. I was like, Hey, I don't

00:37:08.300 --> 00:37:10.860
even care about this. Like that's why you got

00:37:10.860 --> 00:37:16.920
the part. That's why I got a fear factor because

00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:19.179
I was the only one who made fun of it. And did

00:37:19.179 --> 00:37:21.820
you, you never had to do, you never had to like.

00:37:22.230 --> 00:37:24.630
Eat the spiders. I ate a bunch of stuff. I ate

00:37:24.630 --> 00:37:27.610
some spiders. Yeah, I ate an Iraqi cave spider.

00:37:28.010 --> 00:37:31.469
I ate a Madagascar hissing cockroach. I ate a

00:37:31.469 --> 00:37:35.190
tomato hornworm. I ate a sheep's eyeball. I ate

00:37:35.190 --> 00:37:36.869
a bunch of stuff because I ate it just to show

00:37:36.869 --> 00:37:39.070
the people that you could eat it. Ew. Did you

00:37:39.070 --> 00:37:41.710
ever throw up after? No. I only threw up once

00:37:41.710 --> 00:37:47.030
at home. You, like, waited until you got home?

00:37:47.250 --> 00:37:49.070
Those were really good editing. They did a great

00:37:49.070 --> 00:37:51.230
job. And there was this girl that was... Oh,

00:37:51.230 --> 00:37:53.760
my God. You sound like Bobby. Bobby has never

00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:57.579
thrown up. It's just that he doesn't. So he will

00:37:57.579 --> 00:37:59.960
eat anything and do anything. Well, I've definitely

00:37:59.960 --> 00:38:03.679
thrown up. But this time it was this lady was

00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:06.719
eating worms and she had to swallow the worms

00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:09.280
and she couldn't. So she spit them up into the

00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:12.059
glass and then she could keep going if she could

00:38:12.059 --> 00:38:13.980
re -drink what was in the glass that she already

00:38:13.980 --> 00:38:18.300
spit up. And so she did it. I went, I ran into

00:38:18.300 --> 00:38:21.559
the kitchen and threw up in the sink. And I was

00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:24.039
like, how? And I kept thinking, how odd. Like,

00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:25.699
what a great job they did with like the editing

00:38:25.699 --> 00:38:27.920
and the music that it got me so wrapped up in

00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:30.219
it. Even though I was at home, I was like five

00:38:30.219 --> 00:38:31.559
feet away from that lady while she was doing

00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:32.900
that. I didn't throw up. And it didn't bother

00:38:32.900 --> 00:38:34.940
you? It bothered me, but I was trying to help

00:38:34.940 --> 00:38:37.019
her. I was trying to get her, talk her through

00:38:37.019 --> 00:38:39.019
it. That's why you were so good on it, because

00:38:39.019 --> 00:38:43.000
you were never making fun of people. I definitely

00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:47.099
made fun of people. Well, but not in a... You're

00:38:47.099 --> 00:38:50.739
so... It's crazy to be on this show, and why

00:38:50.739 --> 00:38:52.420
are you crying? You're the one that wanted to

00:38:52.420 --> 00:38:56.039
come on. You were very empathetic. I wanted to

00:38:56.039 --> 00:38:58.019
help them. Yeah, yeah. I wanted to help them

00:38:58.019 --> 00:38:59.760
at the very least do their best. And there was

00:38:59.760 --> 00:39:01.480
a lot of it that I said, look, I know this sounds

00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:03.980
crazy, but if you just force yourself to chew

00:39:03.980 --> 00:39:05.800
this and swallow it, you could do it. You've

00:39:05.800 --> 00:39:07.820
got to just take your mind out of this place.

00:39:08.099 --> 00:39:10.400
It's not that bad. And sometimes I would eat

00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:13.219
things just to show them. Ew. Like I ate a roach

00:39:13.219 --> 00:39:15.099
just to show them. I'll eat this if you do. No.

00:39:15.139 --> 00:39:16.840
I'm going to eat this roach. It's not that big

00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:20.090
a deal. Ew. Did you chew it? Yeah, you have to.

00:39:20.090 --> 00:39:21.289
You can't swallow it. It'll be alive in your

00:39:21.289 --> 00:39:22.349
stomach. Do you remember what it tasted like?

00:39:22.510 --> 00:39:27.550
Not much. Ew. Yeah, I know. But it's in your

00:39:27.550 --> 00:39:30.889
head. Was it crunchy? Sure. Real crunchy. But

00:39:30.889 --> 00:39:35.530
the actual taste itself was not bad. I mean,

00:39:35.530 --> 00:39:37.190
it wasn't good. It wasn't like I look forward

00:39:37.190 --> 00:39:39.690
to roaches. And what about rats? Did you do a

00:39:39.690 --> 00:39:42.170
lot of rat work? We did work with rats where

00:39:42.170 --> 00:39:44.309
people had to like lie in a thing in a coffin.

00:39:44.369 --> 00:39:46.070
Yeah. Covered them with rats and the rats would

00:39:46.070 --> 00:39:48.070
be nibble on them. Uh -uh. Yeah, that's not good.

00:39:48.110 --> 00:39:50.230
But they were pet rats. I mean, they were fed

00:39:50.230 --> 00:39:52.869
a healthy diet. Pet rats? They were. They were

00:39:52.869 --> 00:39:55.670
like raised rats. They weren't like dangerous

00:39:55.670 --> 00:39:57.489
street rats that have been eating each other.

00:39:57.710 --> 00:39:59.489
Did anything, I mean, you probably can't talk

00:39:59.489 --> 00:40:02.670
about it, but did anything ever go? Horribly

00:40:02.670 --> 00:40:05.710
wrong? No. Really? No. We got lucky, though.

00:40:05.789 --> 00:40:08.409
It's just luck. I really believe that. Because

00:40:08.409 --> 00:40:11.550
we made them ride bulls once. Yeah, and you can't

00:40:11.550 --> 00:40:14.570
control a bull. I told the people, don't do it.

00:40:14.670 --> 00:40:17.210
When all the contestants, I said, I wouldn't

00:40:17.210 --> 00:40:18.789
do this. I'll tell you right now. I don't think

00:40:18.789 --> 00:40:21.690
you should do it because it's not worth it. The

00:40:21.690 --> 00:40:23.969
kind of catastrophic injury that you get from

00:40:23.969 --> 00:40:26.610
a bull stomping on your face, you don't come

00:40:26.610 --> 00:40:28.969
back from that. You have to understand, there's

00:40:28.969 --> 00:40:32.070
not a 0 % possibility that this bull will stomp

00:40:32.070 --> 00:40:34.750
you or kick you while you're in the air being

00:40:34.750 --> 00:40:36.730
launched off its body and get kicked in the face.

00:40:36.929 --> 00:40:38.909
That's possible. Don't do it. I wouldn't do it.

00:40:38.909 --> 00:40:40.969
Some people would back out, right? They all did

00:40:40.969 --> 00:40:43.429
it. They all did it. They all did it. I think.

00:40:43.469 --> 00:40:45.150
I'm pretty sure. And then they got thrown from

00:40:45.150 --> 00:40:49.050
the bull. They flew. This one lady weighed like

00:40:49.050 --> 00:40:51.949
98 pounds, and she got... She got bucked and

00:40:51.949 --> 00:40:54.070
she went flying and landed right on her back

00:40:54.070 --> 00:40:56.250
and was like knocked out. Yeah, it was horrible.

00:40:56.449 --> 00:40:59.750
I would have never done that. I mean, and look,

00:40:59.829 --> 00:41:02.550
I've had bull riders on the podcast before. I've

00:41:02.550 --> 00:41:05.210
talked to multiple. We had bull riders on Fear

00:41:05.210 --> 00:41:09.130
Factor. Doesn't it? You might know. Is that you?

00:41:09.289 --> 00:41:11.369
Yeah. Did you see it? What a cute ringtone. Hey,

00:41:11.489 --> 00:41:14.409
put him on speakerphone. Seriously? Yeah, why

00:41:14.409 --> 00:41:18.170
not? Honey, you're on speaker. I'm here with

00:41:18.170 --> 00:41:21.539
Joe. We're on the podcast. You're on the podcast,

00:41:21.579 --> 00:41:27.579
so don't swear. Hello? Can you hear me, honey?

00:41:28.699 --> 00:41:30.880
We're talking to Joe right now. You're live.

00:41:32.739 --> 00:41:36.119
Well, thanks, baby. Hey, Joe, I'm looking forward

00:41:36.119 --> 00:41:37.780
to seeing you in a couple of weeks. Yeah, I'm

00:41:37.780 --> 00:41:39.539
looking forward to seeing you, too. You probably

00:41:39.539 --> 00:41:40.820
shouldn't have told people that because then

00:41:40.820 --> 00:41:42.639
they'll start attacking you. Is there anything

00:41:42.639 --> 00:41:46.380
you need to tell me? I was just going to ask

00:41:46.380 --> 00:41:48.989
Joe to be nice to my wife. Why didn't you call

00:41:48.989 --> 00:41:53.389
me? I'm in tears over here, honey. It's really,

00:41:53.489 --> 00:41:58.389
it's going horribly. All right, well, bring me

00:41:58.389 --> 00:42:02.329
back some of that alpha. Alpha brain. Yeah, will

00:42:02.329 --> 00:42:05.250
do. Okay, baby. I love you. Take care. I love

00:42:05.250 --> 00:42:10.449
you. Bye. Bye, Bobby. Love you, too. That's hilarious.

00:42:10.909 --> 00:42:14.250
What were you showing me? That Mexican OD did

00:42:14.250 --> 00:42:17.269
bull stuff. No, Mexican OD did it? No. He got

00:42:17.269 --> 00:42:20.550
fucked up. No. He got up and ran away. No. Oh,

00:42:20.650 --> 00:42:23.469
my God. This is a guest that was on my podcast.

00:42:23.550 --> 00:42:27.530
He's awesome. He's a brilliant rapper. Oh, my

00:42:27.530 --> 00:42:30.449
goodness, dude. Oh, my goodness, dude. That's

00:42:30.449 --> 00:42:33.750
so terrible. Oh, my goodness, dude. Don't do

00:42:33.750 --> 00:42:37.489
that no more. I mean, can I ask a question to

00:42:37.489 --> 00:42:41.730
the men? I mean, do you wear special equipment

00:42:41.730 --> 00:42:45.110
down there? Yes. You do? I assume they do. They

00:42:45.110 --> 00:42:46.650
might not while they're doing that because I

00:42:46.650 --> 00:42:49.269
saw one guy get a horn right up his butt. Yeah,

00:42:49.349 --> 00:42:50.949
but there's no special equipment that's going

00:42:50.949 --> 00:42:52.389
to protect you there. But what about your testicles?

00:42:52.389 --> 00:42:54.849
Yeah, you should wear a cup for sure. You should

00:42:54.849 --> 00:42:57.389
wear something. Yeah, yeah. Because that doesn't

00:42:57.389 --> 00:42:59.889
seem like that's healthy. Nope, definitely not

00:42:59.889 --> 00:43:01.849
healthy. I don't think there's anything healthy

00:43:01.849 --> 00:43:03.489
about it, right? No, definitely not healthy.

00:43:03.710 --> 00:43:06.829
I mean, it's just like a lot of pressure on your

00:43:06.829 --> 00:43:10.590
balls. For sure. Yeah. Have you ever done it?

00:43:10.809 --> 00:43:14.550
What? Bull riding? Yeah. No. No, I told you I

00:43:14.550 --> 00:43:16.889
would never do that. I thought you were just

00:43:16.889 --> 00:43:18.610
telling the other people not to do it. No, no,

00:43:18.710 --> 00:43:23.010
no, no, no, no. I have a healthy respect for

00:43:23.010 --> 00:43:25.809
animals. Yeah. Especially big ones. I think people

00:43:25.809 --> 00:43:28.809
get super delusional. We also get super delusional

00:43:28.809 --> 00:43:31.150
when we compare size. Like if you say, oh, a

00:43:31.150 --> 00:43:32.949
monkey smaller than me, that thing will fucking

00:43:32.949 --> 00:43:35.570
kill you. I know. Don't get crazy. It'll pick

00:43:35.570 --> 00:43:37.190
your eyes out, right? Oh, they'll rip your face

00:43:37.190 --> 00:43:39.590
apart. Yeah. There's a crazy video of this guy

00:43:39.590 --> 00:43:42.530
in India who's sitting down and he lets this

00:43:42.530 --> 00:43:45.789
monkey like sit on his lap and he's like being

00:43:45.789 --> 00:43:47.349
all calm with the monkey. And then the monkey

00:43:47.349 --> 00:43:50.210
just decides to tear a giant chunk off his scalp.

00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:53.159
And the way it does it, it just bites his head

00:43:53.159 --> 00:43:56.940
and just yanks like a football -sized piece of

00:43:56.940 --> 00:43:59.440
meat off this guy's head. And there's no stopping

00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:01.619
it. There's no stopping it when it starts happening.

00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:04.659
You don't know how strong they are. Imagine being

00:44:04.659 --> 00:44:07.139
so strong you could just rip someone's skin clean

00:44:07.139 --> 00:44:09.659
off their head. And it's like a little thing,

00:44:09.739 --> 00:44:11.840
a little 30 -pound monkey. It looks adorable.

00:44:12.199 --> 00:44:13.940
Yeah, and he thought he was being cute. It's

00:44:13.940 --> 00:44:15.719
like, I'm going to be peaceful. I won't play

00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:18.179
it. Oh, yeah, no, I can't watch it. You want

00:44:18.179 --> 00:44:20.860
to watch it? No, I don't. You can watch it. Yeah,

00:44:21.099 --> 00:44:23.360
I'll look away. So he lets this thing sit on

00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:26.340
his lap, and then it just decides to bite his

00:44:26.340 --> 00:44:30.920
head. Look at it real quick. Oh, my gosh. He's

00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:33.780
missing a giant chunk off his head. Oh, my God.

00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:39.119
Yeah, so he's scarred for life. You know, it

00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:41.440
was a dumb decision. You let that thing dominate

00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:43.000
you. He didn't understand what he was doing.

00:44:43.159 --> 00:44:44.880
No. You let that thing get on top of him, and

00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:46.400
the thing just decided for no reason to just

00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:48.960
bite his head. Now, we used to have a pet emu.

00:44:49.320 --> 00:44:51.860
Ooh, they're the dumbest birds, by the way. They

00:44:51.860 --> 00:44:55.900
are so dumb. Their heads are tiny, so their brain

00:44:55.900 --> 00:44:59.719
must be, and the rest of them is big. So you

00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:02.360
just had this emu, like, coming at you every

00:45:02.360 --> 00:45:06.809
day. Wow. It wasn't relaxing. I got to the point

00:45:06.809 --> 00:45:10.130
where I had to walk outside with a shovel. Just

00:45:10.130 --> 00:45:12.190
to protect yourself from the evil? That's crazy.

00:45:12.250 --> 00:45:15.630
I have a friend who has ostriches. Are they nicer?

00:45:15.789 --> 00:45:17.289
I wonder if they're nicer. He says the same thing.

00:45:17.369 --> 00:45:20.869
He hates them. He has this big ranch in Texas

00:45:20.869 --> 00:45:23.050
and he got ostriches. He's like, dude, I hate

00:45:23.050 --> 00:45:24.969
these things. Look at that face. No, it's terrible.

00:45:25.739 --> 00:45:28.059
They're mean and, you know. They tried to bite

00:45:28.059 --> 00:45:30.300
us on Fear Factor, too. We had an episode where

00:45:30.300 --> 00:45:32.820
they had to drink a whole ostrich egg. Ew. A

00:45:32.820 --> 00:45:35.840
raw ostrich egg. Ew. But we had ostriches in

00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:37.320
the background. They started just fucking with

00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:39.480
people, like biting their heads. Yeah. They'll

00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:41.059
peck you. Yeah, they'll peck you. They don't

00:45:41.059 --> 00:45:42.719
care. Yeah. You know what else is dumb? This

00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:44.780
lady was a falconeer. That's what they're called,

00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:47.960
right? Falconer. Falconer? When they train falcons?

00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:49.820
Yeah, that's Bobby. Oh, he does that? Who wrote

00:45:49.820 --> 00:45:53.829
the book? Yes. Oh. So this lady, she had a golden

00:45:53.829 --> 00:45:56.349
eagle. She had a couple of the falcons are the

00:45:56.349 --> 00:45:59.750
most fascinating. But then she had an owl and

00:45:59.750 --> 00:46:03.309
she's like, owl is there. First of all, one misconception

00:46:03.309 --> 00:46:05.329
is that owls are smart. She goes, they are so

00:46:05.329 --> 00:46:08.190
dumb. They're the dumbest birds next to emos.

00:46:08.190 --> 00:46:10.710
Only emos are dumber than owls. I didn't know

00:46:10.710 --> 00:46:14.110
that. I was like, really? That's cool. Why? Like,

00:46:14.170 --> 00:46:16.860
why do we have this? You know. Idea that they're.

00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:18.940
Give a hoot. Don't pollute. Remember? That they're

00:46:18.940 --> 00:46:21.719
very wise. Yeah. Why do we think they're wise?

00:46:21.780 --> 00:46:23.119
I mean, he's counting how many licks it takes

00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:24.860
to get to the center of a tootsie roll pop. Remember?

00:46:25.019 --> 00:46:28.420
Yes. But he could never get to it. So maybe we

00:46:28.420 --> 00:46:30.380
should have learned. Yeah. This guy's full of

00:46:30.380 --> 00:46:32.199
shit. Yeah. He's full of shit. He's a fake professor.

00:46:32.440 --> 00:46:36.739
We've had some owls in our day with Bobby. Oh,

00:46:36.739 --> 00:46:39.880
pets? Yeah. I mean, yeah. Is this Bobby? No.

00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:41.719
No. This is someone. I saw this going around

00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:43.929
the internet. What is this? Is that his falcon?

00:46:44.010 --> 00:46:47.349
You can't see where it is. Whoa. That looks like

00:46:47.349 --> 00:46:48.829
an eagle. He sees it from way up there. Is that

00:46:48.829 --> 00:46:51.150
an eagle or a hawk? What is that? Does it say?

00:46:51.269 --> 00:46:53.130
It doesn't say. I don't know if it said specifically.

00:46:53.409 --> 00:46:55.010
Again, is it another Facebook link? They had

00:46:55.010 --> 00:46:57.110
a golden eagle. The golden eagle is amazing.

00:46:57.510 --> 00:46:59.849
But it kept trying to land. We had a little campfire

00:46:59.849 --> 00:47:02.170
outside. It kept trying to land on the fire.

00:47:02.949 --> 00:47:05.750
That's weird. Why is this bird so stupid? It

00:47:05.750 --> 00:47:07.849
looks like a hawk. Yeah, it looks like a hawk.

00:47:07.849 --> 00:47:11.769
Yeah. So this lady had... She had hawks and falcons,

00:47:11.809 --> 00:47:14.150
and she's like, the problem with hawks is as

00:47:14.150 --> 00:47:17.130
soon as you let them loose, they immediately

00:47:17.130 --> 00:47:19.710
find something to kill. She's like, everything

00:47:19.710 --> 00:47:22.210
that's near them, they kill. She goes like, this

00:47:22.210 --> 00:47:25.750
sucker kills birds. He kills squirrels. You let

00:47:25.750 --> 00:47:28.989
the owl go, the owl just goes over there. He'll

00:47:28.989 --> 00:47:30.650
come back to you. The eagle, the same thing.

00:47:31.030 --> 00:47:33.269
Not the hawks. The hawks are like, it's time

00:47:33.269 --> 00:47:35.769
to kill. No, that's what they do. It's weird.

00:47:36.530 --> 00:47:40.059
Like I said, Bobby. loves hawks and falcons and

00:47:40.059 --> 00:47:43.840
he will i went hawking with him once how do you

00:47:43.840 --> 00:47:48.420
do that um well you you have these they do it

00:47:48.420 --> 00:47:53.360
in twos like these two birds and are they his

00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:56.869
birds yes so he's trained these birds He's trained

00:47:56.869 --> 00:48:00.190
them and the other. That's kind of a crazy thing

00:48:00.190 --> 00:48:03.230
to be good at. It's a very crazy. But look, even

00:48:03.230 --> 00:48:06.269
since he was young. But so it's pretty fascinating

00:48:06.269 --> 00:48:09.110
because you have to do it when after the leaves

00:48:09.110 --> 00:48:11.829
have fallen from the trees and there are two

00:48:11.829 --> 00:48:15.690
birds that hunt together and they go up into

00:48:15.690 --> 00:48:19.530
the trees and then it's really beautiful at first.

00:48:20.059 --> 00:48:24.400
For me. Until the carnage. So they start going

00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:26.980
from tree to tree and they're communicating with

00:48:26.980 --> 00:48:31.400
each other. And they'll see a bunny. Cute, sweet.

00:48:32.119 --> 00:48:34.480
You see where this is going. And they see a bunny

00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:36.900
down there and they go and they go and one of

00:48:36.900 --> 00:48:39.460
them does something and then the other one swoops

00:48:39.460 --> 00:48:43.110
down and grabs it and they just... tear it apart

00:48:43.110 --> 00:48:46.590
the next thing you know it's just you know bunny

00:48:46.590 --> 00:48:49.650
guts yeah yeah so it's cute until then but it's

00:48:49.650 --> 00:48:51.409
pretty fascinating to watch them do it there

00:48:51.409 --> 00:48:53.929
was some kind of a war in my backyard that was

00:48:53.929 --> 00:48:56.989
going on for a while and i don't know what animal

00:48:56.989 --> 00:48:59.429
was doing it but i found a bunch of beheaded

00:48:59.429 --> 00:49:03.690
hawks wow yeah i don't know what bird was killing

00:49:03.690 --> 00:49:06.860
the hawks but they'll kill the hawk and and rip

00:49:06.860 --> 00:49:09.320
its head off. Ask Bobby. He will know. Oh, I

00:49:09.320 --> 00:49:11.679
bet. He will know. I assume it was something

00:49:11.679 --> 00:49:15.019
bigger. But yeah, they're big already. It's hard

00:49:15.019 --> 00:49:19.139
to imagine what... Owls eat hawks. I'm really...

00:49:19.139 --> 00:49:22.619
But are they fast enough to get an owl as fast?

00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:26.460
Owls are silent. And the thing about owls is

00:49:26.460 --> 00:49:28.199
there's a really interesting video that you could

00:49:28.199 --> 00:49:31.039
find where they take a bunch of different birds

00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:33.139
and they have them fly from point A to point

00:49:33.139 --> 00:49:36.739
B and then they have a sound... And the sound

00:49:36.739 --> 00:49:39.619
registers the decibels of their flight. What

00:49:39.619 --> 00:49:41.639
they mean. Owls, it's almost completely silent.

00:49:42.079 --> 00:49:44.300
They're so silent. They're so sneaky. So this

00:49:44.300 --> 00:49:46.360
is a great black and white video of this owl

00:49:46.360 --> 00:49:51.349
in its night vision, the camera. And you see

00:49:51.349 --> 00:49:55.110
this owl swooping up on a hawk's nest and snatches

00:49:55.110 --> 00:49:58.570
a hawk right out of the nest. Oh, my God. I wonder.

00:49:58.590 --> 00:50:00.010
But it comes out of nowhere. That's weird. You

00:50:00.010 --> 00:50:01.769
just see eyes in the distance. Yeah, it's really

00:50:01.769 --> 00:50:04.710
weird. I don't think I've ever seen an owl in

00:50:04.710 --> 00:50:07.250
flight, but not that I was looking. In real life,

00:50:07.449 --> 00:50:10.570
you mean? Yeah. Oh, I did. Is it only at night?

00:50:11.109 --> 00:50:13.150
Yes. I've only seen him fly at night. But where

00:50:13.150 --> 00:50:15.409
I live, one time I was driving home and there

00:50:15.409 --> 00:50:18.110
was this owl that was right on the side of the

00:50:18.110 --> 00:50:21.030
road. And as I was driving, he took off with

00:50:21.030 --> 00:50:24.849
a rabbit in his talons and then just decided

00:50:24.849 --> 00:50:26.409
he didn't want to carry this rabbit anymore and

00:50:26.409 --> 00:50:27.889
let it go. Like maybe it was dangerous because

00:50:27.889 --> 00:50:29.610
the rabbit was kind of big. And then the rabbit

00:50:29.610 --> 00:50:31.530
dropped in the middle of the road. So I pulled

00:50:31.530 --> 00:50:33.190
the car over and I got out and I look at this

00:50:33.190 --> 00:50:36.590
like gutted rabbit and this owl who had just

00:50:36.590 --> 00:50:40.570
jacked this rabbit. Just decided. That's so weird

00:50:40.570 --> 00:50:45.170
that he, I'm assuming it was an aggressive male

00:50:45.170 --> 00:50:47.469
owl. Might have been a female protecting its

00:50:47.469 --> 00:50:49.610
young or giving its young food. A lot of them

00:50:49.610 --> 00:50:53.510
is that. I mean, I wonder if the rabbit was diseased

00:50:53.510 --> 00:50:56.989
or something. No, it was food. No. But that's.

00:50:56.989 --> 00:50:59.190
The rabbits can't even hear it coming. That's

00:50:59.190 --> 00:51:00.809
the thing about owls. That's why they're such

00:51:00.809 --> 00:51:04.610
brilliant nocturnal hunters. See if you can find

00:51:04.610 --> 00:51:08.190
that video of the birds, the different sounds.

00:51:09.429 --> 00:51:11.610
There's a hawk, there's an eagle, and then the

00:51:11.610 --> 00:51:16.289
owl. It's like nothing. It just swoops in and

00:51:16.289 --> 00:51:19.309
snatches them. They eat a lot of cats, too, by

00:51:19.309 --> 00:51:22.510
the way. I didn't know that. Yeah, a friend of

00:51:22.510 --> 00:51:25.889
mine found, there was an owl nest, and he found

00:51:25.889 --> 00:51:31.250
like six cat collars in the nest. Oh, I always

00:51:31.250 --> 00:51:34.289
just assumed it was coyotes. It is a lot of coyotes,

00:51:34.349 --> 00:51:36.769
but it's also owls. Owls kill a lot of people's

00:51:36.769 --> 00:51:39.369
cats. That is crazy. And they can fly with your

00:51:39.369 --> 00:51:43.110
cat. That's what's crazy. So watch. To fly over

00:51:43.110 --> 00:51:47.969
a series of super sensitive microphones. So that's

00:51:47.969 --> 00:51:54.570
a pigeon. Super loud. Oh, jeez. Mo. There's a

00:51:54.570 --> 00:52:03.329
hawk. Pretty loud. Now watch the owl. It's Ken's

00:52:03.329 --> 00:52:16.809
turn. Nothing. You don't hear anything. You don't

00:52:16.809 --> 00:52:19.269
even hear the wings. And those are super sensitive

00:52:19.269 --> 00:52:22.250
microphones. Wow. Now see if you can find the

00:52:22.250 --> 00:52:24.409
video of the owl snatching the hawk out of the

00:52:24.409 --> 00:52:28.829
nest. So crazy. I didn't know this. Yeah, owls

00:52:28.829 --> 00:52:33.349
are super predators. Yeah. They see so well at

00:52:33.349 --> 00:52:35.269
night, and they have those big heads. Yeah, then

00:52:35.269 --> 00:52:37.289
their heads can turn. Crazy eyes. Yeah, watch

00:52:37.289 --> 00:52:39.949
this. So see those dots in the distance? That's

00:52:39.949 --> 00:52:44.789
them. Watch this. Snatch. The other hawk barely

00:52:44.789 --> 00:52:47.250
knows what the hell happened. Oh, my God. Snatch.

00:52:47.869 --> 00:52:50.409
Yep. Just steals them right out of the nest.

00:52:50.710 --> 00:52:54.820
Owls are big, too. They seem to be. Work alone.

00:52:55.099 --> 00:52:59.019
They seem a little like lonesome. Yeah. Well,

00:52:59.099 --> 00:53:02.940
I mean, you can't fly a flock of owls. But like

00:53:02.940 --> 00:53:05.099
the hawks, when they hunt, they hunt together,

00:53:05.219 --> 00:53:06.900
you know, and they're communicating with each

00:53:06.900 --> 00:53:08.800
other. They make so much noise. That's true.

00:53:08.960 --> 00:53:11.079
They got a clumsy approach with the owl sneaky.

00:53:11.340 --> 00:53:13.380
And how about the pigeons? They do not have a

00:53:13.380 --> 00:53:17.579
chance. So loud. What do they eat? That's a good

00:53:17.579 --> 00:53:19.619
question. That's a good question. Does birds

00:53:19.619 --> 00:53:21.820
eat? I know what eats pigeons, though. What?

00:53:21.860 --> 00:53:24.400
Rats in New York City. That is a crazy video

00:53:24.400 --> 00:53:27.199
of a rat in New York City grabbing a pigeon and

00:53:27.199 --> 00:53:29.260
attacking it and eating it. No. And dragging

00:53:29.260 --> 00:53:33.099
it away. You've never seen that? I like that

00:53:33.099 --> 00:53:34.659
you think that's what I'm looking at online.

00:53:35.039 --> 00:53:36.920
What are you looking at online? Passion tips?

00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:41.840
It's not that. If you want to live in a big city,

00:53:41.960 --> 00:53:44.820
that's the nature that you get. You get rats

00:53:44.820 --> 00:53:46.780
and pigeons. There are a lot of rats in D .C.

00:53:47.119 --> 00:53:50.670
Rats kill pigeons all the time. Rats kill pigeons.

00:53:50.690 --> 00:53:52.989
Yeah, if they catch them slipping, they're close

00:53:52.989 --> 00:53:55.650
enough where they can grab them. It's disgusting.

00:53:55.929 --> 00:53:58.750
Oh, rats are disgusting. Yeah. Have you ever

00:53:58.750 --> 00:54:01.309
watched that documentary on Netflix called Rats?

00:54:01.309 --> 00:54:05.130
No. Whoa. I would never. You should. No, God,

00:54:05.170 --> 00:54:08.849
no. It's a game changer. No. It's so nutty when

00:54:08.849 --> 00:54:12.909
you find out that the biomass of rats in New

00:54:12.909 --> 00:54:15.590
York City is roughly equal to the biomass of

00:54:15.590 --> 00:54:18.840
people. Ew. Meaning the weight of all the people

00:54:18.840 --> 00:54:21.539
in New York City is roughly equal to the weight

00:54:21.539 --> 00:54:23.000
of all the rats in New York City. That's gross.

00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:24.559
But you lived in New York. Is that accurate?

00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:27.679
I think that's accurate. It might be the numbers.

00:54:27.820 --> 00:54:29.820
It might be the same number of people as there

00:54:29.820 --> 00:54:31.719
are rats. But you didn't have a problem when

00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:33.679
you lived there? I didn't live there. I lived

00:54:33.679 --> 00:54:36.579
in New Rochelle, which was a suburb. That's nice.

00:54:37.340 --> 00:54:40.400
Westchester. Kind of quiet. I was a road comedian

00:54:40.400 --> 00:54:43.110
and I needed a parking spot. I couldn't. I couldn't

00:54:43.110 --> 00:54:44.949
afford to park in New York City. It was like,

00:54:44.989 --> 00:54:47.289
it's too hard. Yeah, yeah. It was like, you know,

00:54:47.309 --> 00:54:48.949
whatever it was for a parking spot, it was like

00:54:48.949 --> 00:54:50.949
half my rent. I was like, I can't afford that.

00:54:51.150 --> 00:54:53.829
Yeah. Also, I don't like it. I don't like being

00:54:53.829 --> 00:54:56.769
stacked on top of people like that. All my friends

00:54:56.769 --> 00:54:58.369
who live there, they're like, yeah, I don't even

00:54:58.369 --> 00:54:59.909
know my neighbors. I'm like, there's a guy right

00:54:59.909 --> 00:55:01.849
across six feet away from you. You don't even

00:55:01.849 --> 00:55:04.090
fucking know him? That's kind of crazy. No. There

00:55:04.090 --> 00:55:06.869
are always people upstairs, like. Banging around.

00:55:07.010 --> 00:55:12.309
Yeah. Moving furniture. Eh. Not your vibe. So

00:55:12.309 --> 00:55:16.030
here it is. For the big picture comparison, 8

00:55:16.030 --> 00:55:18.750
.3 million humans at 70 kilograms each are about

00:55:18.750 --> 00:55:22.369
580 ,000 metric tons of human. So rats at roughly

00:55:22.369 --> 00:55:26.230
0 .102 % of human biomass in New York City, even

00:55:26.230 --> 00:55:29.250
though they're extremely visible. Oh, so it's

00:55:29.250 --> 00:55:32.849
only like less than a percent? Wait a minute.

00:55:33.030 --> 00:55:38.210
Well, they're tiny. I mean, compared to. So the

00:55:38.210 --> 00:55:41.010
number of rats, is the number of rats the same?

00:55:41.070 --> 00:55:43.530
Is that what I'm getting wrong? An estimated

00:55:43.530 --> 00:55:46.230
about 3 million rats in New York City, but there's

00:55:46.230 --> 00:55:49.230
like 10 million people. That's disgusting. 3

00:55:49.230 --> 00:55:51.429
million rats? I don't think they really know.

00:55:52.230 --> 00:55:54.070
Yeah, how could they know? I think they're probably

00:55:54.070 --> 00:55:56.949
underestimating it because underneath the city

00:55:56.949 --> 00:55:59.409
is where all the rats live. There's no way they're

00:55:59.409 --> 00:56:01.829
doing an accurate count of all the rats. I feel

00:56:01.829 --> 00:56:04.639
like. L .A.? Oh, I know what I screwed up on.

00:56:04.780 --> 00:56:07.380
This is what I screwed up on. It's actually ants

00:56:07.380 --> 00:56:11.139
with the biomass of ants on Earth. I think that's

00:56:11.139 --> 00:56:14.059
true. I think the biomass of ants on Earth is

00:56:14.059 --> 00:56:17.139
roughly equal to the biomass of people. The things

00:56:17.139 --> 00:56:18.960
that are going on inside your head are insane.

00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:21.860
That is a kooky number, though. It is a kooky

00:56:21.860 --> 00:56:23.300
number. We might find out that's wrong, too.

00:56:23.659 --> 00:56:25.679
I think it's right, though. Is that what it is?

00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:31.380
But I feel like L .A. are aggressive and huge.

00:56:32.500 --> 00:56:35.960
Oh, okay. That's not true either. Is that right?

00:56:36.619 --> 00:56:38.880
What is that? Get rid of that little source thing.

00:56:39.099 --> 00:56:41.980
I can't. It's not showing. It's unblocking. Oh,

00:56:41.980 --> 00:56:46.679
there it goes. Quadrillion. 20 quadrillion? I've

00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:49.440
never seen that word. Me either. 20 quadrillion

00:56:49.440 --> 00:56:51.980
individuals worldwide. That's the number of ants.

00:56:53.219 --> 00:56:57.619
Wow. I mean. So it's 20 % of human dry biomass.

00:56:57.900 --> 00:57:00.579
What does that mean? After you peed? And more

00:57:00.579 --> 00:57:02.920
than all the wild birds and mammals combined.

00:57:03.039 --> 00:57:07.079
That's crazy. There's more weight from ants than

00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:12.139
all the mammals and birds combined. Wow. That's

00:57:12.139 --> 00:57:19.000
crazy. That is crazy. That is crazy. I have them

00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:21.619
in my backyard and they're leaf cutter ants.

00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:24.039
No, they're cool. They're cute. They carry all

00:57:24.039 --> 00:57:26.119
those little tiny. It's weird. It's like, how

00:57:26.119 --> 00:57:27.920
do you guys know? How do you know to do this?

00:57:28.119 --> 00:57:30.000
And they work together. They work together. Yeah.

00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:32.119
Well, they have these. Have you ever seen what

00:57:32.119 --> 00:57:34.599
the leafcutter ant colonies look like under the

00:57:34.599 --> 00:57:38.380
surface? No. So they take them and they, unfortunately,

00:57:38.539 --> 00:57:40.900
they do a genocide on the leafcutter ants for

00:57:40.900 --> 00:57:43.280
science. And they fill up their entire colony

00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:46.980
with cement. And so they show what the structure.

00:57:47.039 --> 00:57:48.920
You mean when they were studying? Yes. Okay.

00:57:49.230 --> 00:57:50.809
Well, this is how they find out. You have to

00:57:50.809 --> 00:57:53.610
kill everybody and turn them into concrete. And

00:57:53.610 --> 00:57:56.969
so this enormous leafcutter ant colony that's

00:57:56.969 --> 00:57:59.409
underground, then they dig it up, and only the

00:57:59.409 --> 00:58:03.489
cement is left. And it's bananas. It's so vast.

00:58:03.489 --> 00:58:08.130
Like little tunnels? They have fermentation tubes.

00:58:08.329 --> 00:58:10.530
So they have an area where they put leaves in

00:58:10.530 --> 00:58:13.070
to ferment, and then they have a tunnel that

00:58:13.070 --> 00:58:15.550
goes up to the surface so it can get air. That's

00:58:15.550 --> 00:58:18.690
crazy. So this is it. They fill up. This is the

00:58:18.690 --> 00:58:21.210
leafcutter ant colony. Look at the ones on the

00:58:21.210 --> 00:58:23.110
outside going, hey, what the fuck? What the fuck?

00:58:23.170 --> 00:58:25.269
My cousin's in there. They are freaking out.

00:58:25.369 --> 00:58:26.929
Yeah, they're freaking out. And so then they

00:58:26.929 --> 00:58:29.030
have to excavate and they dig out this area.

00:58:29.230 --> 00:58:34.469
And it is absolutely massive. Oh, so that's the

00:58:34.469 --> 00:58:38.309
concrete. Exactly. So the concrete that's left

00:58:38.309 --> 00:58:40.869
is what the colony actually looks like underground.

00:58:41.130 --> 00:58:43.110
It's enormous. It's like the size of a house.

00:58:43.869 --> 00:58:44.889
Like, look at that. It's so impressive. What

00:58:44.889 --> 00:58:47.849
do you have to do with these stupid fucking ads

00:58:47.849 --> 00:58:50.510
that you can't even get rid of that cover a quarter

00:58:50.510 --> 00:58:52.710
of your screen? But look, pause that real quick.

00:58:53.349 --> 00:58:56.949
Look at that. That is crazy. Bananas. Absolutely

00:58:56.949 --> 00:59:00.500
bananas. That a tiny little ant. And all of his

00:59:00.500 --> 00:59:03.420
friends can make something like that. I like

00:59:03.420 --> 00:59:05.300
that they're all friends. I think that there

00:59:05.300 --> 00:59:07.139
are some that are like, I hate that asshole.

00:59:07.139 --> 00:59:09.539
Yeah, probably. He's so lazy. He's a lazy bitch.

00:59:09.539 --> 00:59:10.980
We're all working our asses off and he's just

00:59:10.980 --> 00:59:13.039
over there like taking it easy. Well, there's

00:59:13.039 --> 00:59:17.760
some ants where the female will find the male

00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:21.460
and they cut his legs off, his arms and legs

00:59:21.460 --> 00:59:26.039
off, and then carry him to the colony so that

00:59:26.039 --> 00:59:30.099
he could breed. Find that. Which ant is that?

00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:32.599
Yeah, they find him and they cut his arms and

00:59:32.599 --> 00:59:35.480
legs off so he can't go anywhere. And he just

00:59:35.480 --> 00:59:39.599
does one thing. Wow. You think he thinks it's

00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:43.219
an honor? I don't think he thinks. Right? How

00:59:43.219 --> 00:59:45.420
can he? I don't know. I think they're almost

00:59:45.420 --> 00:59:48.159
like little robots, little biological robots.

00:59:48.340 --> 00:59:51.280
It seems like they are working together and coming

00:59:51.280 --> 00:59:55.880
up with plans and, you know, landscapes. But

00:59:55.880 --> 00:59:58.639
the thing is, this is a universal thing. This

00:59:58.639 --> 01:00:01.079
is what's really weird. Like here we are in Texas,

01:00:01.239 --> 01:00:03.599
but there's probably leafcutter ants right now

01:00:03.599 --> 01:00:05.500
in Florida. There's probably leafcutter ants

01:00:05.500 --> 01:00:07.920
right now all over the world. And they're all

01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:10.519
doing a similar thing underground. But leafcutter,

01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:13.880
so they're completely different than, say, red

01:00:13.880 --> 01:00:15.929
ants? Yeah, I mean, there's a bunch of different

01:00:15.929 --> 01:00:17.969
kind of ants, but the thing that differentiates

01:00:17.969 --> 01:00:20.429
leafcutter ants is that they go to trees, they

01:00:20.429 --> 01:00:22.510
chop off their leaves, they take these little

01:00:22.510 --> 01:00:24.789
pieces of it, and then they carry it back into

01:00:24.789 --> 01:00:27.230
their leafcutter ant colony. And then they have

01:00:27.230 --> 01:00:30.070
all these places where they store the leaves,

01:00:30.190 --> 01:00:33.610
and the leaves ferment, and they kind of rot,

01:00:33.789 --> 01:00:35.730
and then they have air pipes that go up to the

01:00:35.730 --> 01:00:40.090
surface. It's super, super complex. And it just

01:00:40.090 --> 01:00:43.269
makes you think, like, how do they know to make

01:00:43.269 --> 01:00:45.590
this chamber? and then a passageway to the chamber.

01:00:45.690 --> 01:00:48.090
And how do they all know? All over the world.

01:00:48.469 --> 01:00:51.030
It's very weird. It's a very weird thing that

01:00:51.030 --> 01:00:53.349
they do. But I have them in my yard, and I just

01:00:53.349 --> 01:00:55.309
sit there and watch them. I can only find stuff

01:00:55.309 --> 01:00:59.929
about them amputating the limbs for saving their

01:00:59.929 --> 01:01:03.429
lives, not breeding. It was a specific kind of

01:01:03.429 --> 01:01:05.389
ant. I typed it in four different times. All

01:01:05.389 --> 01:01:09.030
I could get was that queen ants will amputate

01:01:09.030 --> 01:01:11.050
their wings afterwards, but I didn't see anything

01:01:11.050 --> 01:01:13.980
about... cutting off a male's limbs and dragging

01:01:13.980 --> 01:01:15.659
them for breeding. It says they all do it to

01:01:15.659 --> 01:01:19.539
address wounds. I wish I could remember what

01:01:19.539 --> 01:01:22.480
it was. It was a specific kind of ant. I'm going

01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:25.039
to go to town on that. It's just a ruthless world

01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:28.340
of insects. We're lucky they're little. Because

01:01:28.340 --> 01:01:30.920
they're smart. Well, you don't think they think.

01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:38.929
You think they've got some sort of... I think

01:01:38.929 --> 01:01:41.150
they have activity, but I think they're operating

01:01:41.150 --> 01:01:43.789
on a program. They don't have feelings. I don't

01:01:43.789 --> 01:01:46.170
think they have any feelings. No, I definitely

01:01:46.170 --> 01:01:50.269
don't think they have feelings. I mean, if a

01:01:50.269 --> 01:01:52.329
praying mantis was the size of a German shepherd,

01:01:52.469 --> 01:01:55.289
we'd have a real problem. Because they're vicious.

01:01:56.150 --> 01:01:58.030
100%. You wouldn't be able to get away from them.

01:01:58.389 --> 01:02:00.550
Do you think they have feelings? I don't think

01:02:00.550 --> 01:02:05.329
so. I think they're the scariest life form. Why?

01:02:05.610 --> 01:02:08.010
Because they're so strong for their size. They're

01:02:08.010 --> 01:02:11.809
way, way – like you can't even – like I've seen

01:02:11.809 --> 01:02:15.050
praying mantis snatch hummingbirds off of a bird

01:02:15.050 --> 01:02:18.250
feeder and kill them. Are you serious? Oh, yeah,

01:02:18.269 --> 01:02:20.070
yeah, yeah. They wait on a bird feeder. They

01:02:20.070 --> 01:02:22.050
sit there like this and they just wait. They

01:02:22.050 --> 01:02:24.329
don't move. They don't move. And the hummingbird

01:02:24.329 --> 01:02:26.230
doesn't recognize them. The hummingbird comes

01:02:26.230 --> 01:02:28.150
over, eats out of the bird feeder and just snatches

01:02:28.150 --> 01:02:32.039
them. And the bird's way bigger than the – And

01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:34.139
the mantis can hold on to the hummingbird. Where

01:02:34.139 --> 01:02:36.619
did they take it? Just kill it. Kill it and eat

01:02:36.619 --> 01:02:40.940
it right there. Really? Sure. But aren't they

01:02:40.940 --> 01:02:44.159
small? Exactly. That's why we're lucky that they're

01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:46.300
really small. Because if they were the size of

01:02:46.300 --> 01:02:48.340
like a dog, they would 100 % be able to kill

01:02:48.340 --> 01:02:51.269
you. Just like that monkey is like super strong.

01:02:51.369 --> 01:02:53.269
Well, if a mantis was the size of that monkey,

01:02:53.409 --> 01:02:55.610
the monkey would have no chance. That mantis

01:02:55.610 --> 01:02:57.909
would just snatch it and just start eating it.

01:02:57.969 --> 01:02:59.929
That's a good point because a monkey must look

01:02:59.929 --> 01:03:03.650
at a man and think that guy is bigger than me,

01:03:03.670 --> 01:03:05.530
but I don't care. I'm going for it. Yeah. Well,

01:03:05.610 --> 01:03:07.530
I don't think they have any respect for people.

01:03:08.199 --> 01:03:10.420
I think their interactions with people are that

01:03:10.420 --> 01:03:12.179
people are soft and that they're scared of them.

01:03:12.360 --> 01:03:15.360
And so that's how they... What's the monkey going

01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:17.460
to do with the scalp? You know what I mean? See,

01:03:17.480 --> 01:03:19.880
look at that mantis. See him sitting there? Yeah.

01:03:20.340 --> 01:03:22.559
The hummingbird doesn't know what's going on.

01:03:22.659 --> 01:03:26.460
He's just motionless. And so as the hummingbird

01:03:26.460 --> 01:03:31.659
gets close, tries to get a little water. Oh,

01:03:31.679 --> 01:03:33.539
no. And watch how it snatches it, too. It's so

01:03:33.539 --> 01:03:39.480
fast. Watch it right there. Bang. Gotcha. Look

01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:43.179
at the size of the bird. I mean, the body mass

01:03:43.179 --> 01:03:45.219
of the bird has got to be a lot more than the

01:03:45.219 --> 01:03:48.440
mantis. And the mantis is just holding on to

01:03:48.440 --> 01:03:50.699
it definitively. Like it has no chance. Oh, the

01:03:50.699 --> 01:03:54.340
guy knocked it loose. What a bitch. That is so

01:03:54.340 --> 01:03:59.719
crazy. Really crazy. It just gets it. So there's

01:03:59.719 --> 01:04:01.760
other ones where you see the mantis like hanging

01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:07.409
on and eating it. They're incredible little creatures.

01:04:07.570 --> 01:04:09.349
Is that what they mostly eat? It's hummingbirds?

01:04:09.469 --> 01:04:11.670
No, they eat all kinds of stuff. But this one

01:04:11.670 --> 01:04:13.510
is just sitting there eating a hummingbird. Ew.

01:04:14.150 --> 01:04:16.789
The other weird thing is the amount that they

01:04:16.789 --> 01:04:19.329
can eat. Yeah, that's why. It looks like a tiny

01:04:19.329 --> 01:04:22.369
twig. Exactly. How can it eat a hummingbird?

01:04:22.510 --> 01:04:25.610
There's a video. Well, there's one Instagram

01:04:25.610 --> 01:04:27.769
page that I follow that's just mantises eating

01:04:27.769 --> 01:04:31.489
a bunch of different bugs. Really? That's what

01:04:31.489 --> 01:04:34.199
you follow? Yeah. I follow a lot of stuff. Is

01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:36.400
it relaxing or is it just fascinating? It's just

01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:38.739
like gets your mind off of politics. Just weird.

01:04:38.900 --> 01:04:41.760
Weird to watch this creature and it eats a roach

01:04:41.760 --> 01:04:44.320
that's like bigger than it. And it eats the whole

01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:48.480
thing. Like this guy just gets this roach. Look

01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:50.239
at the size of that roach. He's just going to

01:04:50.239 --> 01:04:53.539
chew through that entire roach. And that sucker's

01:04:53.539 --> 01:04:55.219
still alive for the beginning. He just eats his

01:04:55.219 --> 01:04:57.699
head. And then he stops being alive. And then

01:04:57.699 --> 01:04:59.360
he just goes right through them. Like, look at

01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:01.820
this. This is nuts. And then do you think it

01:05:01.820 --> 01:05:03.860
doesn't eat again for a long time, like a snake?

01:05:04.420 --> 01:05:06.880
Probably. It probably doesn't have to eat. Ew.

01:05:07.760 --> 01:05:10.119
That's so gross. I know. It just eats its legs.

01:05:10.420 --> 01:05:12.559
And it keeps going. And it eats the entire thing.

01:05:12.599 --> 01:05:15.179
Like, there's nothing left of that roach. And

01:05:15.179 --> 01:05:16.639
that roach is as big as him. Like, where'd it

01:05:16.639 --> 01:05:20.099
go? How are you doing that? I don't know. You

01:05:20.099 --> 01:05:22.679
ever see a fat praying mantis? No. They don't

01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:26.300
exist. I hardly see them. But I haven't been

01:05:26.300 --> 01:05:28.340
looking. Look, there's the page. Yeah, you have

01:05:28.340 --> 01:05:31.659
a highlights reel on it. You have a highlights

01:05:31.659 --> 01:05:35.820
reel. Joe. That's hilarious. It's called Cryptic

01:05:35.820 --> 01:05:39.219
Mantids. Is that what the name of it is? What

01:05:39.219 --> 01:05:42.699
is it? Yeah, yeah. Cryptic with a K, Mantis.

01:05:42.719 --> 01:05:47.280
And their eyeballs are crazy. Yeah, it's a weird

01:05:47.280 --> 01:05:50.639
animal. I mean, if that insect was big, it would

01:05:50.639 --> 01:05:53.380
be a real problem. So look, he's like dangling

01:05:53.380 --> 01:05:55.059
that roach in front of it and just snatches it.

01:05:55.320 --> 01:05:57.780
Ew. I mean, that's like you eating a poodle.

01:05:58.360 --> 01:06:00.699
It's crazy. It just eats the whole thing in one

01:06:00.699 --> 01:06:02.059
sitting. Just the whole thing. The whole poodle.

01:06:02.159 --> 01:06:04.519
The little paws. The nose, the head, eyeballs,

01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:07.420
the tail, everything. It just eats everything.

01:06:07.760 --> 01:06:12.900
Ew. Yeah, but that exists in nature. We're playing

01:06:12.900 --> 01:06:16.719
a totally different game. Our game is we're soft.

01:06:17.559 --> 01:06:20.699
Yeah. Yeah, look at that thing. Yeah. A Peruvian

01:06:20.699 --> 01:06:23.360
dragon mantis. Yeah, imagine that was like big.

01:06:23.659 --> 01:06:25.820
Imagine that thing was like the size of a giraffe.

01:06:26.079 --> 01:06:28.039
It would be a giant problem. It just runs into

01:06:28.039 --> 01:06:30.780
a city and eats everybody. Sounds like a movie.

01:06:31.300 --> 01:06:37.039
Does. Wow. That's how actresses think. That sounds

01:06:37.039 --> 01:06:40.079
like a great movie. I could be the scientist.

01:06:41.860 --> 01:06:45.619
The man just gets stuck in a tube with a guy's

01:06:45.619 --> 01:06:49.900
head. Yeah. Something like that. Like The Fly.

01:06:50.139 --> 01:06:51.820
Remember that Jeff Goldblum movie? Yeah, of course.

01:06:51.820 --> 01:06:54.000
That movie was great. Of course. And that was

01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:56.340
a remake of an earlier one. There was an earlier

01:06:56.340 --> 01:07:01.199
The Fly movie, which was a lot weirder. Really?

01:07:01.440 --> 01:07:03.119
Well, it was weird for the time because the guy

01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:05.780
had like a weird costume on, like a fly head

01:07:05.780 --> 01:07:08.619
on, but like a person's body. But the fly was

01:07:08.619 --> 01:07:11.039
cool because you see Jeff Goldblum, like that's

01:07:11.039 --> 01:07:13.940
the original fly. Oh. So like a one human hand,

01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:17.440
one fly hand. But the Goldblum one was great.

01:07:17.500 --> 01:07:20.599
No, I love that Goldblum. So this guy just had

01:07:20.599 --> 01:07:22.659
like a mask on. He's like a regular dude with

01:07:22.659 --> 01:07:27.469
a mask. I'm the fly. But I got a hand. But the

01:07:27.469 --> 01:07:30.530
Goldblum one was cool because you see him start

01:07:30.530 --> 01:07:34.150
to slowly turn mad. Yes, and his mannerisms.

01:07:34.230 --> 01:07:37.989
A spike start poking out of his skin. What is

01:07:37.989 --> 01:07:40.469
this? He didn't realize that a fly had gotten

01:07:40.469 --> 01:07:43.449
in there with him and they matched DNA. Jeff

01:07:43.449 --> 01:07:48.949
Goldblum's great. Oh, he's great. He's very intense

01:07:48.949 --> 01:07:54.210
and at the same time very... Likeable. Yeah,

01:07:54.289 --> 01:07:57.409
fun, jolly. Tell me about you. Yeah. Tell me

01:07:57.409 --> 01:08:01.789
what makes Cheryl work. Well, him and Jurassic

01:08:01.789 --> 01:08:05.030
Park really helped make that movie. Like the

01:08:05.030 --> 01:08:08.250
rational scientist that was like, okay, what

01:08:08.250 --> 01:08:13.250
have you done? You know? Because you could do

01:08:13.250 --> 01:08:15.269
it. You never decided whether you should do it.

01:08:16.369 --> 01:08:20.939
Yeah. Yeah, he's always thinking. Not judging,

01:08:21.220 --> 01:08:24.420
not freaking out. Well, definitely sort of judging.

01:08:25.239 --> 01:08:28.539
But it was just that, like, yeah, there should

01:08:28.539 --> 01:08:30.460
be a fucking scientist that says, what are you

01:08:30.460 --> 01:08:33.619
doing? What are you doing? Are you sure you should

01:08:33.619 --> 01:08:35.420
be doing this? Yeah, these don't belong here.

01:08:35.619 --> 01:08:37.960
These are from a time where we weren't around.

01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:40.220
You shouldn't bring them here. We can't compete

01:08:40.220 --> 01:08:41.960
with them. If it wasn't for that big rock that

01:08:41.960 --> 01:08:44.600
hit the Yucatan, we probably would have never

01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:46.500
become people because they would have been around.

01:08:47.069 --> 01:08:50.390
I never saw Jurassic Park. What? Mm -mm. What?

01:08:51.029 --> 01:08:53.170
How? How'd you avoid that movie? It's one of

01:08:53.170 --> 01:08:54.550
the greatest movies of all time. I know. It didn't

01:08:54.550 --> 01:09:00.489
sound good to me. Like dinosaurs? It's so good.

01:09:01.050 --> 01:09:04.109
It's such a good movie. It's such a good movie,

01:09:04.149 --> 01:09:06.850
too, because it was like one of the first movies

01:09:06.850 --> 01:09:10.949
that used CGI, but they did it really well. Yeah.

01:09:11.050 --> 01:09:14.170
And the thing about CGI with dinosaurs is it's

01:09:14.170 --> 01:09:16.829
so different than CGI with, like, do you remember

01:09:16.829 --> 01:09:20.029
I Am Legend? Mm -mm. The Will Smith movie? Never

01:09:20.029 --> 01:09:22.449
saw that one? No. Is it science fiction? Yes.

01:09:22.470 --> 01:09:25.869
I don't watch science fiction. Not usually. It's

01:09:25.869 --> 01:09:28.210
a zombie movie, essentially. Yeah. Like a disease

01:09:28.210 --> 01:09:31.109
sweeps over the... But in that movie, there's

01:09:31.109 --> 01:09:36.510
CGI lions in New York City, and they look so

01:09:36.510 --> 01:09:39.260
vague. They look bad. Oh, really? Yeah, because

01:09:39.260 --> 01:09:40.300
you know why? And what was that? That was like

01:09:40.300 --> 01:09:45.640
2010? Was it even? I feel like it was earlier

01:09:45.640 --> 01:09:49.239
than that. When was I Am Legend? 2007. 2007?

01:09:49.420 --> 01:09:50.840
Okay, but go ahead. You were going to say why.

01:09:51.300 --> 01:09:53.869
Because you know what a lion looks like. You

01:09:53.869 --> 01:09:55.890
don't really know what a dinosaur looks like.

01:09:56.010 --> 01:09:58.210
So your brain doesn't register that, oh, that

01:09:58.210 --> 01:10:01.029
looks fake. Right, right. Yeah, so when you see

01:10:01.029 --> 01:10:02.770
the T -Rex when he comes over the fence, and

01:10:02.770 --> 01:10:04.689
also the way they shot it, like Spielberg is

01:10:04.689 --> 01:10:07.609
a genius. The way they shot it at night, and

01:10:07.609 --> 01:10:10.350
it's kind of like, you know, in the jungle, so

01:10:10.350 --> 01:10:12.270
it's like partially obscured. You ever seen the

01:10:12.270 --> 01:10:14.250
scene where the T -Rex emerges for the first

01:10:14.250 --> 01:10:16.670
time when the kids are in the car? Oh, you need

01:10:16.670 --> 01:10:19.220
to see this. I have so many things to look up

01:10:19.220 --> 01:10:23.500
tonight. I have so many rabbit holes to go down.

01:10:23.800 --> 01:10:26.159
How have you not seen this movie? I don't know.

01:10:26.239 --> 01:10:29.020
The original Jurassic Park is one of my favorite

01:10:29.020 --> 01:10:30.819
movies ever. Okay. I guess I'm going to have

01:10:30.819 --> 01:10:35.199
to watch it. I loved it because for me, it's

01:10:35.199 --> 01:10:37.840
a real potential possibility. I'm friends with

01:10:37.840 --> 01:10:39.859
the guys over at Colossal. Those are the guys

01:10:39.859 --> 01:10:42.420
that brought back the dire wolf. Like they have

01:10:42.420 --> 01:10:44.619
actual dire wolves now. What is a dire wolf?

01:10:44.859 --> 01:10:47.819
A dire wolf is an extinct breed of wolf. And

01:10:47.819 --> 01:10:49.539
I know there's geneticists out there that are

01:10:49.539 --> 01:10:51.819
freaking out. That's not a dire wolf. It's not.

01:10:51.859 --> 01:10:53.619
What they've done is just taken the characteristics

01:10:53.619 --> 01:10:57.380
of a dire wolf and recreated it. Are they small?

01:10:57.880 --> 01:11:00.319
No. They're very big. They're bigger than a regular

01:11:00.319 --> 01:11:02.140
wolf. And they're weird looking. Like they have

01:11:02.140 --> 01:11:05.560
a mane. And, you know, they're all white. Like

01:11:05.560 --> 01:11:08.000
they're really cool looking. And they walk on

01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:09.720
all fours. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a dumb

01:11:09.720 --> 01:11:11.770
question. Of course. I was thinking about your

01:11:11.770 --> 01:11:15.649
werewolf in London. Oh, he walks on all fours,

01:11:15.649 --> 01:11:16.890
too. Does he? But he can walk. That's from American

01:11:16.890 --> 01:11:19.489
Werewolf in London. But he can't go. No, that's

01:11:19.489 --> 01:11:21.109
a dire wolf. Oh, wow, they're really pretty.

01:11:21.109 --> 01:11:22.869
So that's the colossal guys. Yeah, they're really

01:11:22.869 --> 01:11:24.489
interesting. It's really interesting because

01:11:24.489 --> 01:11:27.090
you see them. Wow, it's really pretty. And when

01:11:27.090 --> 01:11:29.989
I saw them, it was in the summertime, and apparently

01:11:29.989 --> 01:11:33.989
they were about six months old, and they're going

01:11:33.989 --> 01:11:37.300
to get a lot larger. Oh, wait, so they came back

01:11:37.300 --> 01:11:39.760
from extinction? Yeah, they brought them back

01:11:39.760 --> 01:11:41.859
from extinction through genetic engineering.

01:11:43.640 --> 01:11:46.439
That's crazy. They have dire wolf DNA. They mixed

01:11:46.439 --> 01:11:48.579
it with gray wolf DNA. I don't know how they

01:11:48.579 --> 01:11:51.100
did it. They could tell me. I'll forget five

01:11:51.100 --> 01:11:54.340
minutes later. But whatever it is, that's a different

01:11:54.340 --> 01:11:57.819
thing that ever existed before since the direwolves

01:11:57.819 --> 01:12:01.060
went extinct. Wow. Yeah. So my fear is that these

01:12:01.060 --> 01:12:03.680
assholes, not these guys, but that someone, some

01:12:03.680 --> 01:12:06.159
scientific asshole, will make a Jurassic Park.

01:12:06.760 --> 01:12:10.060
We'll say, hey, we found an island that we can

01:12:10.060 --> 01:12:14.680
buy that's 50 ,000 square acres or whatever it

01:12:14.680 --> 01:12:17.640
is, and we're going to take and put a few dinosaurs

01:12:17.640 --> 01:12:19.479
on this island and make it so that people can

01:12:19.479 --> 01:12:22.899
go visit it. That's possible. People could do

01:12:22.899 --> 01:12:27.279
that. Well, it sounds possible, but it doesn't

01:12:27.279 --> 01:12:32.979
sound worse than like AI things that can be done

01:12:32.979 --> 01:12:39.399
on your computer and to our – Brains. You're

01:12:39.399 --> 01:12:40.920
more afraid of AI than you are of dinosaurs.

01:12:41.100 --> 01:12:43.439
That's rational because AI is more likely. Yeah,

01:12:43.500 --> 01:12:45.460
because if somebody said, hey, you could go visit

01:12:45.460 --> 01:12:47.880
this island that has dinosaurs, at least I'd

01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:52.699
have a choice. And I'd be like, no, thanks. But

01:12:52.699 --> 01:12:56.960
I will sometimes, if you're just talking about

01:12:56.960 --> 01:13:02.560
a poncho. A poncho? Yeah. Like a poncho, you

01:13:02.560 --> 01:13:04.100
know, like a little blanket that has a hole.

01:13:04.319 --> 01:13:06.649
Got it. It's a word that doesn't come up much,

01:13:06.770 --> 01:13:10.390
but when it came up, I was just talking to my

01:13:10.390 --> 01:13:13.989
friend about a poncho. And then all of a sudden

01:13:13.989 --> 01:13:16.029
on my phone, there were like lots of ads. Ads

01:13:16.029 --> 01:13:19.050
for ponchos. Yeah. I wonder if I'm going to get

01:13:19.050 --> 01:13:20.689
some now. You are. Some poncho ads. You're going

01:13:20.689 --> 01:13:22.529
to get some poncho ads. I've never had a poncho

01:13:22.529 --> 01:13:25.189
ad. If I get one right now, I'll know. Oh, yeah.

01:13:25.229 --> 01:13:30.189
No. We're all dialed in somehow. Well, that's

01:13:30.189 --> 01:13:34.689
for sure. So I would rather be running away from

01:13:34.689 --> 01:13:40.449
a – I would rather die from being squashed by

01:13:40.449 --> 01:13:47.350
a dinosaur than just go crazy from thoughts of

01:13:47.350 --> 01:13:50.350
things that have been put into my head from AI.

01:13:50.609 --> 01:13:54.500
Does that make sense? Sort of. I don't want to

01:13:54.500 --> 01:13:58.199
die either way. I don't want to die by AI. I

01:13:58.199 --> 01:14:01.220
don't want to die by dinosaur. If you had to

01:14:01.220 --> 01:14:03.279
choose one or the other? I really don't think

01:14:03.279 --> 01:14:06.319
either one is preferable. I think the dinosaur

01:14:06.319 --> 01:14:11.119
is more unlikely. The AI one seems very possible.

01:14:11.720 --> 01:14:16.539
There's not a real good roadmap that I've seen

01:14:16.539 --> 01:14:22.539
where AI... is not completely disruptive in every

01:14:22.539 --> 01:14:24.779
aspect of our life. And the only people that

01:14:24.779 --> 01:14:26.640
do provide that roadmap seem to be profiting

01:14:26.640 --> 01:14:30.279
off of AI. You know, some people think it's going

01:14:30.279 --> 01:14:32.079
to increase productivity. Like Elon thinks it's

01:14:32.079 --> 01:14:33.600
going to increase productivity to the point where

01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:35.880
we'll have, no one will have to work anymore.

01:14:36.180 --> 01:14:39.119
And you'll have what they call universal high

01:14:39.119 --> 01:14:41.819
income. That's what he's calling it. But then

01:14:41.819 --> 01:14:43.899
you have this real problem of what do people

01:14:43.899 --> 01:14:46.520
do with their time? Right. Like how do so many

01:14:46.520 --> 01:14:49.869
people really? identify with whatever they do

01:14:49.869 --> 01:14:53.689
as a job right right and it gives you a sense

01:14:53.689 --> 01:14:56.149
of purpose right most people need a sense of

01:14:56.149 --> 01:14:59.550
purpose to be have a to feel happy they also

01:14:59.550 --> 01:15:02.149
like providing for themselves like people like

01:15:02.149 --> 01:15:04.270
the fact that you work all week you come home

01:15:04.270 --> 01:15:07.189
you get your paycheck and you know Now you can

01:15:07.189 --> 01:15:09.489
go to the restaurant and it's all your money.

01:15:09.529 --> 01:15:12.810
You bought it. You worked hard. And now, you

01:15:12.810 --> 01:15:15.409
know, you bought whatever you bought. You paid

01:15:15.409 --> 01:15:18.350
for it. A poncho. You paid for it with your labor.

01:15:18.350 --> 01:15:19.890
The most beautiful poncho in the world. People

01:15:19.890 --> 01:15:22.069
like being good at something, right? If you're

01:15:22.069 --> 01:15:23.750
the guy that, you know, if there's something

01:15:23.750 --> 01:15:25.829
going on, you need something fixed and you go

01:15:25.829 --> 01:15:28.369
to Henry. Like Henry loves the fact that Cheryl

01:15:28.369 --> 01:15:30.310
calls him up because she knows that he knows

01:15:30.310 --> 01:15:33.619
how to fix things. Yeah. What do we do with Henry?

01:15:33.739 --> 01:15:37.199
When Henry loses, like we say, your job's useless.

01:15:37.420 --> 01:15:39.380
You're basically like a guy who owns Blockbuster

01:15:39.380 --> 01:15:44.100
Video. Well, is that like very, very wealthy

01:15:44.100 --> 01:15:46.920
people that are born into money that don't have

01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:50.000
to work, that don't have to? That's even worse,

01:15:50.140 --> 01:15:52.329
right? Because that's like. very wealthy people

01:15:52.329 --> 01:15:54.630
that are born into money have never had to prove

01:15:54.630 --> 01:15:56.130
themselves. They've always been more special

01:15:56.130 --> 01:15:58.529
than everybody else. If everybody has universal

01:15:58.529 --> 01:16:03.479
high income, that won't be a unique thing. So

01:16:03.479 --> 01:16:06.739
optimistically, I would say the optimistic take

01:16:06.739 --> 01:16:10.220
on it is if that was the case, the real positive

01:16:10.220 --> 01:16:13.180
aspect is you wouldn't have to work for your

01:16:13.180 --> 01:16:15.859
basic needs. And what you could decide to do

01:16:15.859 --> 01:16:18.180
instead is pursue something you're really interested

01:16:18.180 --> 01:16:23.000
in. Become an expert in something. Yeah. Or study

01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:25.560
a bunch of different languages all day. But will

01:16:25.560 --> 01:16:29.130
people? Some people will. Yeah. But I think that's

01:16:29.130 --> 01:16:31.329
always the case. That's true. Some people would

01:16:31.329 --> 01:16:33.569
take advantage of a situation like some people

01:16:33.569 --> 01:16:36.210
during COVID. They said, OK, some people just

01:16:36.210 --> 01:16:39.050
became alcoholics and they lost everything. Some

01:16:39.050 --> 01:16:40.850
people said, I'm going to start a side business.

01:16:40.930 --> 01:16:42.770
I'm going to start an online business because

01:16:42.770 --> 01:16:44.529
an online business, they can't shut down during

01:16:44.529 --> 01:16:48.229
a pandemic. And a lot of people become very profitable

01:16:48.229 --> 01:16:53.800
because of that. It's like. why do we need to

01:16:53.800 --> 01:16:56.340
just work all day? If you're a laborer, is that

01:16:56.340 --> 01:16:59.920
really the only use of your time? Like if you're

01:16:59.920 --> 01:17:02.739
doing it for food, I get it. You're doing it

01:17:02.739 --> 01:17:05.279
for housing, I get it. It's a good job. It's

01:17:05.279 --> 01:17:07.359
a solid, honest way to make a living. But if

01:17:07.359 --> 01:17:09.420
you don't have to do that anymore, and then you

01:17:09.420 --> 01:17:12.859
just get money from the government and from whatever

01:17:12.859 --> 01:17:16.479
income AI is generating. Wouldn't you rather

01:17:16.479 --> 01:17:20.680
play soccer or go do this or whatever your thing

01:17:20.680 --> 01:17:23.260
is? Yeah. Painting, whatever your thing is. Right.

01:17:23.300 --> 01:17:27.319
You could find anything. You could find a thing

01:17:27.319 --> 01:17:29.739
that gives you meaning other than just your work.

01:17:29.840 --> 01:17:31.699
Right. Because if you're working in a factory

01:17:31.699 --> 01:17:35.279
and you're just putting the dial on the box.

01:17:35.979 --> 01:17:37.880
That's not fulfilling and you're not going anywhere.

01:17:37.880 --> 01:17:39.399
You're not doing anything. That stuff has only

01:17:39.399 --> 01:17:41.539
been around for a while, like a small amount

01:17:41.539 --> 01:17:44.319
of time, like being a worker in a factory or

01:17:44.319 --> 01:17:46.220
an office. How long has that even been around?

01:17:46.279 --> 01:17:48.199
The idea that we can't exist without that being

01:17:48.199 --> 01:17:50.560
around is crazy. Yeah. Because for thousands

01:17:50.560 --> 01:17:53.199
and thousands of years, there was no money. People

01:17:53.199 --> 01:17:55.899
just like hunted and fished and traded things

01:17:55.899 --> 01:17:58.460
and started raising animals. There's no money.

01:17:58.640 --> 01:18:02.319
You basically just try to stay alive by gathering

01:18:02.319 --> 01:18:06.539
food. So do you think that. If nobody had to

01:18:06.539 --> 01:18:11.220
work, that we could do without money altogether?

01:18:11.520 --> 01:18:14.239
That money could disappear and then— That's a

01:18:14.239 --> 01:18:16.239
scary thing because someone's going to have it.

01:18:16.359 --> 01:18:19.039
There's going to be— But then if there's no value

01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:20.960
to it— Yeah, but there's always going to be value.

01:18:21.579 --> 01:18:23.920
This is the scariest thing. From country to country

01:18:23.920 --> 01:18:26.600
or worldwide? Everything. The control of resources.

01:18:26.880 --> 01:18:28.779
Resources are always going to be valuable. It's

01:18:28.779 --> 01:18:30.359
always going to be valuable to have oil. If you

01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:32.979
have oil, you can do so many things. You could

01:18:32.979 --> 01:18:34.840
make gasoline. You could power things. You make

01:18:34.840 --> 01:18:36.720
plastics. Everything comes out of oil. Everything

01:18:36.720 --> 01:18:38.739
is petroleum -based. Even your medicine is petroleum

01:18:38.739 --> 01:18:42.760
-based. Yeah, but if nobody was paying you to

01:18:42.760 --> 01:18:47.300
make it. So everything's free. That's the idea?

01:18:47.619 --> 01:18:49.619
How is that possible? Because then no one would

01:18:49.619 --> 01:18:51.760
want to make a Ferrari. Because the only reason

01:18:51.760 --> 01:18:53.560
why you would make a Ferrari is because it's

01:18:53.560 --> 01:18:55.680
hard to get. So it costs a lot of money. Well,

01:18:55.699 --> 01:18:57.880
if AI is taking over and taking all of those

01:18:57.880 --> 01:19:01.479
jobs and the idea is that nobody is going to

01:19:01.479 --> 01:19:03.850
have to work. So if nobody has to work, then

01:19:03.850 --> 01:19:08.609
the cars are still being made, right? Maybe.

01:19:09.470 --> 01:19:12.550
Oh. Maybe they decide how many cars get made

01:19:12.550 --> 01:19:17.149
and how many people can have a car. Wow. Yeah.

01:19:17.329 --> 01:19:19.970
Does everybody need a car? Like Oxford, England

01:19:19.970 --> 01:19:23.710
just established like this new – they're doing

01:19:23.710 --> 01:19:26.229
this thing called like 15 -minute cities where

01:19:26.229 --> 01:19:28.350
you have like an area where you're allowed to

01:19:28.350 --> 01:19:31.220
travel to. And if you decide to travel outside

01:19:31.220 --> 01:19:33.460
of that area, you get a certain amount of them

01:19:33.460 --> 01:19:36.340
per year. Wait, you get a certain amount of what?

01:19:36.520 --> 01:19:39.520
Travel passes to leave your area. It was a congestion

01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:42.300
zone. Okay, whatever it is. I'm just saying,

01:19:42.359 --> 01:19:44.880
that's what it was. You go at whatever you want,

01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:47.340
but whatever it is, it's the government telling

01:19:47.340 --> 01:19:50.920
you you can't leave an area. And if you leave

01:19:50.920 --> 01:19:54.380
that area, it costs you money. So it costs you

01:19:54.380 --> 01:19:56.880
the equivalent of like $100 a day to leave this

01:19:56.880 --> 01:19:59.539
area. Wow. If you get over a certain number of

01:19:59.539 --> 01:20:01.500
them. It's similar to what they did in New York

01:20:01.500 --> 01:20:03.739
City, however, they stopped it in New York, remember?

01:20:04.020 --> 01:20:06.600
Yeah, well, it's crazy. That's why they stopped

01:20:06.600 --> 01:20:08.680
it, because this is the beginning of a terrible

01:20:08.680 --> 01:20:11.060
trend. So what this is, is the beginning of them

01:20:11.060 --> 01:20:13.439
telling you where you can go and how often you

01:20:13.439 --> 01:20:15.819
can go. And this is the government doing it.

01:20:15.859 --> 01:20:18.180
And the temporary congestion charge. Bullshit.

01:20:18.260 --> 01:20:21.140
They've been proposing stiff like this. It's

01:20:21.140 --> 01:20:23.300
bullshit. They've been proposing stiff. They

01:20:23.300 --> 01:20:25.720
want to control people. They want to be able

01:20:25.720 --> 01:20:27.979
to tell you where you can and can't go. The more

01:20:27.979 --> 01:20:30.380
they can put restrictions on you, the more they

01:20:30.380 --> 01:20:32.640
can pass laws that they can profit from. The

01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:35.199
more they can benefit from whatever control they

01:20:35.199 --> 01:20:36.859
have over you. The more they can tighten down

01:20:36.859 --> 01:20:38.899
on it. And England's a great place to do this

01:20:38.899 --> 01:20:41.060
because they've already gotten. Things passed

01:20:41.060 --> 01:20:43.420
through in England, like England doesn't have

01:20:43.420 --> 01:20:45.859
jury trials anymore except for like murder and

01:20:45.859 --> 01:20:48.300
rape and a few other things. It's just one judge.

01:20:48.380 --> 01:20:50.579
It's a judge. It's one person deciding. So all

01:20:50.579 --> 01:20:52.439
the people that are getting arrested for social

01:20:52.439 --> 01:20:54.460
media abuses. It's just one person deciding.

01:20:54.699 --> 01:20:57.090
No, it's different judges. It's wherever you

01:20:57.090 --> 01:20:58.869
get brought up, wherever you get arrested for.

01:20:58.989 --> 01:21:02.250
Right. But one judge. One judge, yes. Just deciding

01:21:02.250 --> 01:21:04.789
their fate. Right. Whether they like it or not.

01:21:04.949 --> 01:21:06.710
Without a doubt, they're going to go with whatever

01:21:06.710 --> 01:21:09.149
the government wants. And they've arrested 12

01:21:09.149 --> 01:21:11.510
,000 people over the last year for social media

01:21:11.510 --> 01:21:14.390
posts. Just in England. I know. That's intense.

01:21:14.529 --> 01:21:16.270
So that's the place where they're, oh, it's a

01:21:16.270 --> 01:21:18.829
congestion zone. Fuck off. I asked Andrew about

01:21:18.829 --> 01:21:22.029
it last week. What we don't know because we're

01:21:22.029 --> 01:21:24.149
not there. People will get bussed into that area

01:21:24.149 --> 01:21:26.729
already because it's already congested as fuck.

01:21:26.989 --> 01:21:29.789
I don't care. I don't care what's going on. That's

01:21:29.789 --> 01:21:32.390
Bangladesh. Okay. That's New York City. That's

01:21:32.390 --> 01:21:35.430
a lot of places. That's L .A. Yeah. You don't

01:21:35.430 --> 01:21:37.789
get to control whether or not people can leave

01:21:37.789 --> 01:21:40.850
an area. I understand. Period. It doesn't matter

01:21:40.850 --> 01:21:43.210
what you call it. But this was because they closed

01:21:43.210 --> 01:21:44.529
the road. I don't care. They closed the road

01:21:44.529 --> 01:21:47.250
temporarily and so they had to put up some. It's

01:21:47.250 --> 01:21:49.430
a terrible precedent. It's like what they did

01:21:49.430 --> 01:21:51.789
with COVID. They shut down two weeks to stop

01:21:51.789 --> 01:21:54.250
the spread. And what happened? It lasted a year

01:21:54.250 --> 01:21:57.390
and a half in LA. You don't give them that kind

01:21:57.390 --> 01:21:59.789
of control. You can't have ever the control to

01:21:59.789 --> 01:22:01.250
tell people whether they can or can't leave an

01:22:01.250 --> 01:22:03.829
area. Fuck off. That's crazy. Even their houses.

01:22:04.050 --> 01:22:07.079
Remember for a while, you weren't even... You

01:22:07.079 --> 01:22:09.699
weren't even allowed to go outside. They said

01:22:09.699 --> 01:22:11.060
don't go outside. Well, how about that dipshit

01:22:11.060 --> 01:22:13.600
mayor who was saying usually snitches get stitches,

01:22:13.699 --> 01:22:15.699
but now they get rewards. Do you remember that?

01:22:15.960 --> 01:22:17.640
In L .A., they were telling you to turn your

01:22:17.640 --> 01:22:18.500
neighbors in for having parties. Oh, I don't

01:22:18.500 --> 01:22:20.600
remember it in L .A., but I remember it in other

01:22:20.600 --> 01:22:24.920
states. In L .A.? The mayor of L .A.? That's

01:22:24.920 --> 01:22:26.920
crazy. What was that kook's name? It was the

01:22:26.920 --> 01:22:30.239
mayor of L .A. He thought he was on the right

01:22:30.239 --> 01:22:32.039
side of everything until Black Lives Matter started

01:22:32.039 --> 01:22:33.899
protesting outside his house every day for like

01:22:33.899 --> 01:22:36.859
a month. Garcetti. Oh, Garcetti. That creep.

01:22:37.239 --> 01:22:42.100
That guy, he... Find that thing. That snitches

01:22:42.100 --> 01:22:44.840
usually get stitches, but now they get rewards.

01:22:45.060 --> 01:22:47.079
Like, literally said that. That is so crazy.

01:22:48.020 --> 01:22:50.699
Snitches. Snitching on your neighbor for having

01:22:50.699 --> 01:22:53.479
too many people over. That is so crazy. The people

01:22:53.479 --> 01:22:56.279
were exactly five feet apart from each other.

01:22:56.680 --> 01:22:58.960
...continues to let us know where those folks

01:22:58.960 --> 01:23:01.039
are. Where they are? If you've observed recurring

01:23:01.039 --> 01:23:03.840
violations of the Safer at Home order... please

01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:06.779
continue to let us know at coronavirus .lacity

01:23:06.779 --> 01:23:11.399
.org slash business violation. You know the old

01:23:11.399 --> 01:23:13.979
expression about snitches. Well, in this case,

01:23:14.039 --> 01:23:18.239
snitches get rewards. We want to thank you for

01:23:18.239 --> 01:23:21.380
turning folks in and making sure we are all safe.

01:23:21.840 --> 01:23:23.340
It would be cool if that lady who was doing sign

01:23:23.340 --> 01:23:25.300
language was just faking it. Because sometimes

01:23:25.300 --> 01:23:27.020
nobody knows sign languages. And she's still

01:23:27.020 --> 01:23:29.619
going after him. He's done talking and she's

01:23:29.619 --> 01:23:32.539
just like, hey, over here. Well, very few people

01:23:32.539 --> 01:23:34.640
know American Sign Language. So she could have

01:23:34.640 --> 01:23:36.159
been faking it. Like a bunch of people have been

01:23:36.159 --> 01:23:38.960
faking it before and they get caught. No. Oh,

01:23:38.979 --> 01:23:40.739
yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a guy next to Obama

01:23:40.739 --> 01:23:44.159
when Obama was giving a speech once, and this

01:23:44.159 --> 01:23:47.520
guy was completely making it up. Come on. He

01:23:47.520 --> 01:23:50.060
was a con man. Come on. Who tricked himself into

01:23:50.060 --> 01:23:53.840
being three feet from Obama. No security screening.

01:23:54.199 --> 01:23:57.439
Because nobody knows how to validate or verify.

01:23:57.439 --> 01:23:59.079
I don't believe it was in America. I think it

01:23:59.079 --> 01:24:01.000
was somewhere else. Oh, my God. I took American

01:24:01.000 --> 01:24:02.260
Sign Language. So they let this guy on stage,

01:24:02.520 --> 01:24:04.020
and you can tell he's just making things up.

01:24:04.039 --> 01:24:08.119
Oh, my God. He's like fake sign language. You've

01:24:08.119 --> 01:24:10.439
never seen this? No. Find the guy's fake sign

01:24:10.439 --> 01:24:12.920
language with Obama. How did they, did he get

01:24:12.920 --> 01:24:15.899
busted during the speech? Well, there's sign

01:24:15.899 --> 01:24:19.960
language people. This guy right here. So this

01:24:19.960 --> 01:24:23.739
guy on the right, or yeah, that guy, he's completely

01:24:23.739 --> 01:24:26.979
making shit up. So wait for Obama to get, so

01:24:26.979 --> 01:24:30.100
this is the Mandela Memorial. When does Obama

01:24:30.100 --> 01:24:32.659
come out? There's one with Obama next to the

01:24:32.659 --> 01:24:36.619
guy. So that was what it was. So that's the guy.

01:24:36.699 --> 01:24:38.619
See, he's like right next to him. Oh my gosh.

01:24:38.739 --> 01:24:41.359
The guy was like completely faking sign language.

01:24:41.500 --> 01:24:43.439
He was just a kook. He was like, I can do it.

01:24:43.520 --> 01:24:47.380
Yeah, I'm good at it. Let me up there. That is

01:24:47.380 --> 01:24:52.260
crazy. People are nuts. People are nuts. You

01:24:52.260 --> 01:24:54.199
should know that as much as anybody. Listen,

01:24:54.380 --> 01:24:59.340
I've learned it over and over again. And they're

01:24:59.340 --> 01:25:03.729
even nuttier at a level that I didn't know. What

01:25:03.729 --> 01:25:05.869
was the big turning point for you? Was it just

01:25:05.869 --> 01:25:08.170
being attached to Bobby and watching all that

01:25:08.170 --> 01:25:13.270
or? It was it was Bobby running for president.

01:25:13.590 --> 01:25:20.090
It was it's so crazy. I mean, I really got a

01:25:20.090 --> 01:25:27.970
crash course in elections and it is the craziest

01:25:27.970 --> 01:25:32.899
shit goes on and everybody is. That's all they

01:25:32.899 --> 01:25:35.779
think about. You know, the people that are involved.

01:25:35.979 --> 01:25:39.060
They get up in the morning. How can I fuck this

01:25:39.060 --> 01:25:43.720
guy over? And they have these people that their

01:25:43.720 --> 01:25:47.520
only job is to start a rumor, is to say something,

01:25:47.539 --> 01:25:50.159
put something in the press that doesn't matter

01:25:50.159 --> 01:25:53.840
if it's true or not. If somebody else picks it

01:25:53.840 --> 01:25:56.680
up, they celebrate for the whole day. And it's

01:25:56.680 --> 01:26:00.619
like that story, whatever it was, the thing that

01:26:00.619 --> 01:26:04.189
they said. gets picked up that is like a day

01:26:04.189 --> 01:26:06.890
of celebration it's a celebration from the other

01:26:06.890 --> 01:26:13.189
camps and then it's like your camp is now trying

01:26:13.189 --> 01:26:18.289
to figure out what to do about that or what kind

01:26:18.289 --> 01:26:21.250
of damage it's going to do and is it worth even

01:26:21.250 --> 01:26:25.510
fighting or is it better to just let it wither

01:26:25.510 --> 01:26:28.289
on the vine it's just all day every day people

01:26:28.289 --> 01:26:35.289
are Trying to find the craziest, craziest, doesn't

01:26:35.289 --> 01:26:39.590
matter. It doesn't matter if it's about, certainly

01:26:39.590 --> 01:26:42.670
if it's about politics or not. It's more exciting

01:26:42.670 --> 01:26:45.550
if it's something personal. Oh, he's wearing

01:26:45.550 --> 01:26:50.109
lifts in his boots. Oh, she's, and it's just.

01:26:50.210 --> 01:26:52.069
But that is an important thing. Someone's wearing

01:26:52.069 --> 01:26:56.260
lifts in their boots. Like, hey, we've. How are

01:26:56.260 --> 01:26:57.960
you going to govern this country? How did you

01:26:57.960 --> 01:27:01.539
get so tall? Out of nowhere. It is absurd. It's

01:27:01.539 --> 01:27:04.199
a weird. It's absurd. It's an absurd behavior.

01:27:05.260 --> 01:27:08.260
Well, who gives a shit? Women wear heels. Right.

01:27:08.340 --> 01:27:11.020
But if a man does it and he's lying about it,

01:27:11.079 --> 01:27:12.680
I think that as a short man. Well, did anybody

01:27:12.680 --> 01:27:16.020
ask? I think they did. I think they asked. You're

01:27:16.020 --> 01:27:18.840
talking about a homeboy from Florida. Yeah. I

01:27:18.840 --> 01:27:20.600
think they asked and he denied it. But it was

01:27:20.600 --> 01:27:22.920
pretty clear. There was like one podcast or one.

01:27:23.630 --> 01:27:25.210
talk show one of those late night shows where

01:27:25.210 --> 01:27:27.590
he walked out and I was like why you're walking

01:27:27.590 --> 01:27:30.810
like a horse like you're clearly on your tippy

01:27:30.810 --> 01:27:33.289
toes this is crazy you've added like five inches

01:27:33.289 --> 01:27:35.949
to your height this is bananas and it's all inside

01:27:35.949 --> 01:27:38.010
your boots and then that's what everybody's talking

01:27:38.010 --> 01:27:40.550
about but don't do that don't do that no one's

01:27:40.550 --> 01:27:42.130
gonna tell you that's like a self -inflicted

01:27:42.130 --> 01:27:44.550
wound but then it's like oh well he's too short

01:27:44.550 --> 01:27:47.079
to govern the country that's crazy If people

01:27:47.079 --> 01:27:50.000
think that, that's on them. People are crazy.

01:27:50.279 --> 01:27:51.819
Yeah, but they're not going to think you're taller

01:27:51.819 --> 01:27:54.380
than you really are. They've seen you for fucking

01:27:54.380 --> 01:27:56.720
decades. He's been in the public eye forever,

01:27:56.859 --> 01:27:58.260
and then all of a sudden he gains four inches?

01:27:58.420 --> 01:28:00.560
Everybody's like, what's going on? People know.

01:28:01.779 --> 01:28:05.260
They're scrutinizing everything. You can't pull

01:28:05.260 --> 01:28:08.239
the wool over their eyes that hard. Also, it

01:28:08.239 --> 01:28:11.600
shows this weird thing where you're so worried

01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:13.699
about what people think about you that you're

01:28:13.699 --> 01:28:16.340
willing to wear lifts in your shoes. And again,

01:28:16.479 --> 01:28:19.920
I say this as a short man. It's important. Like

01:28:19.920 --> 01:28:22.260
just be authentic. That's who you are. Because

01:28:22.260 --> 01:28:24.579
you're not being authentic. That's who you are.

01:28:24.920 --> 01:28:27.319
Yeah. You're not going to change people's opinion

01:28:27.319 --> 01:28:29.819
of you if you wear a fucking stilt. But what

01:28:29.819 --> 01:28:33.100
does it matter? Like if a guy had a toupee and

01:28:33.100 --> 01:28:34.939
he was running for president, would you be like,

01:28:34.979 --> 01:28:39.800
nah, no? Because it might make him feel better

01:28:39.800 --> 01:28:43.149
to – Fuck your feelings. Take that fucking wig

01:28:43.149 --> 01:28:50.029
off. You should run a campaign. Especially if

01:28:50.029 --> 01:28:52.369
you're wearing a wig and then all of a sudden

01:28:52.369 --> 01:28:54.189
you put it on and you expect me to ignore it.

01:28:54.350 --> 01:28:57.210
That's crazy. That's crazy. If you're like bald

01:28:57.210 --> 01:28:58.630
forever and then all of a sudden you wear one.

01:28:58.630 --> 01:29:00.689
And then the day that you start wearing it. Yeah.

01:29:00.829 --> 01:29:03.350
There must be a day in somebody's life when it's

01:29:03.350 --> 01:29:05.649
like, I'm just going to go for it and hope nobody.

01:29:06.430 --> 01:29:08.449
Well, there's a bunch of like really smart people

01:29:08.449 --> 01:29:10.710
who have them on, which is really weird. It's

01:29:10.710 --> 01:29:12.930
like, how can you be so smart and you don't know

01:29:12.930 --> 01:29:15.770
that that thing on your head is ridiculous? Like

01:29:15.770 --> 01:29:18.770
you were bald and now you're not. And I'm supposed

01:29:18.770 --> 01:29:22.050
to just go, hey, congratulations on growing all

01:29:22.050 --> 01:29:24.890
your hair back. This is fucking nuts. So you

01:29:24.890 --> 01:29:27.909
find it so distracting. No, I just find it a

01:29:27.909 --> 01:29:31.689
character flaw. I see. I see. Right. OK. It's

01:29:31.689 --> 01:29:35.329
like. It's like you you're you're a 60 year old

01:29:35.329 --> 01:29:37.590
man and you're concerned with looking attractive

01:29:37.590 --> 01:29:40.350
like at this stage of your life. Like, come on,

01:29:40.350 --> 01:29:42.649
let it go. This is a crazy thing was going to

01:29:42.649 --> 01:29:44.390
happen. It should have already happened. And

01:29:44.390 --> 01:29:46.550
at this point, this is a crazy thing to concentrate

01:29:46.550 --> 01:29:48.430
on, especially if you want to be taken seriously.

01:29:48.430 --> 01:29:51.590
Like you should. But so what about a guy in his

01:29:51.590 --> 01:29:55.210
that's 25 that's wearing it? It's sad. Look,

01:29:55.369 --> 01:29:57.869
it's like male hair loss is devastating. People

01:29:57.869 --> 01:30:00.569
talking, again, as a bald guy. Yeah, I got hair

01:30:00.569 --> 01:30:03.930
transplants. I did the whole thing. I tried minoxidil

01:30:03.930 --> 01:30:05.810
and all the other different things. It's like

01:30:05.810 --> 01:30:08.390
you don't have any control over it. And apparently

01:30:08.390 --> 01:30:12.909
now, like, supposedly UCLA has a new remedy that

01:30:12.909 --> 01:30:15.409
just grows your hair back. And it's in tests

01:30:15.409 --> 01:30:17.229
right now. And they're going to be able to put

01:30:17.229 --> 01:30:18.289
it on you. It's probably going to make a trillion

01:30:18.289 --> 01:30:20.869
dollars. Is it like a helmet that you put on

01:30:20.869 --> 01:30:22.069
your head? No, no, no. It's like some kind of

01:30:22.069 --> 01:30:24.590
medication that you topically apply. Grows hair.

01:30:24.710 --> 01:30:27.590
Grows hair on mice. And apparently it's going

01:30:27.590 --> 01:30:30.210
to work. I mean, it's kind of amazing that they

01:30:30.210 --> 01:30:33.369
haven't cracked that code yet. But one day they

01:30:33.369 --> 01:30:36.630
will. And if the UCLA thing, then the wig business

01:30:36.630 --> 01:30:38.630
goes out of business. Then would you take it?

01:30:38.729 --> 01:30:41.770
No. Even if I did, I would shave my head. Why?

01:30:42.050 --> 01:30:44.029
100%. I love it. I love having a shaved head.

01:30:44.109 --> 01:30:46.590
I love not having to talk to a barber. I don't

01:30:46.590 --> 01:30:49.729
give a shit what I look like. You would rather

01:30:49.729 --> 01:30:52.649
shave your head than have a meaningless conversation

01:30:52.649 --> 01:30:56.090
for 10 minutes. 100%. 100%. Do you shave it every

01:30:56.090 --> 01:30:57.470
day, like every morning? No, I shave it every

01:30:57.470 --> 01:30:59.010
couple – I shaved it this morning, but I shave

01:30:59.010 --> 01:31:02.670
it every couple days. So you wouldn't – so if

01:31:02.670 --> 01:31:05.050
I said, if you take this, tomorrow you'll have

01:31:05.050 --> 01:31:07.899
– a full head of hair, you'd be like, nothing.

01:31:07.920 --> 01:31:10.060
Maybe I would take it and then just buzz that

01:31:10.060 --> 01:31:12.539
down and have it really short. Just so you know

01:31:12.539 --> 01:31:16.439
it's there. If I wanted to. I could do it if

01:31:16.439 --> 01:31:20.720
I wanted to. But I could. I used to love, when

01:31:20.720 --> 01:31:22.319
I had a full head of hair, I used to love having

01:31:22.319 --> 01:31:25.100
a crew cut. It was my favorite thing. Wow, interesting.

01:31:26.250 --> 01:31:29.210
I just love the feeling of it, like when you

01:31:29.210 --> 01:31:30.930
rub it and you get all the stubble up there.

01:31:31.029 --> 01:31:33.770
I like that. I just don't want to think about

01:31:33.770 --> 01:31:37.609
it. It's texture. I don't want to think about

01:31:37.609 --> 01:31:39.689
it. That's it. But when I was in television,

01:31:39.890 --> 01:31:41.529
I thought about it. I was like, I can't lose

01:31:41.529 --> 01:31:42.850
my hair. That's why I got a hair transplant.

01:31:43.010 --> 01:31:45.029
I was like, I'm starting to make money. But that

01:31:45.029 --> 01:31:46.829
didn't work or you didn't like it? It works for

01:31:46.829 --> 01:31:48.430
a little while. But the way I describe it, I

01:31:48.430 --> 01:31:52.550
was like, it's like you take people. from a neighborhood

01:31:52.550 --> 01:31:54.449
where everybody's really healthy and you move

01:31:54.449 --> 01:31:55.909
them to a neighborhood where everyone's dying.

01:31:56.029 --> 01:31:58.470
So all your neighbors die. So all the other hair

01:31:58.470 --> 01:32:00.989
that was supposed to fall out, that falls out.

01:32:01.170 --> 01:32:02.970
And the only stuff that's left is the stuff you

01:32:02.970 --> 01:32:05.329
put there. And it looks kind of ratty and sparse.

01:32:05.409 --> 01:32:07.229
What do you take it from the back? Yeah, they

01:32:07.229 --> 01:32:08.430
take it from the back of your head and move it

01:32:08.430 --> 01:32:10.550
to the top. Yeah. A lot of guys go to Turkey

01:32:10.550 --> 01:32:12.689
now. I know. They do it and they get their whole

01:32:12.689 --> 01:32:16.189
head redone. But sometimes you get a weird hairline

01:32:16.189 --> 01:32:18.329
where it's like a little too low and crazy. It's

01:32:18.329 --> 01:32:20.090
a little too flat and weird. You're like, what's

01:32:20.090 --> 01:32:23.090
going on with your hair? That's hard. Yeah. Because

01:32:23.090 --> 01:32:25.170
how do you know? Because you're under, you're

01:32:25.170 --> 01:32:28.050
under. Well, you probably think it's a good idea,

01:32:28.109 --> 01:32:29.770
and the doctor thinks it's a good idea, and he

01:32:29.770 --> 01:32:31.229
convinces you. You're like, it's going to look

01:32:31.229 --> 01:32:32.789
good. He's like, it's going to look amazing.

01:32:32.970 --> 01:32:34.609
And next thing you know, you look like a wolfman.

01:32:34.949 --> 01:32:37.649
Are you out completely when you have that? No.

01:32:37.909 --> 01:32:40.390
You're right awake. The doctor's talking to you,

01:32:40.409 --> 01:32:42.289
and he's like, I'm going to put one here. They

01:32:42.289 --> 01:32:43.770
don't even talk to you. You can watch a movie

01:32:43.770 --> 01:32:45.250
or something like that. You just sit there and

01:32:45.250 --> 01:32:46.829
chill. There's videos of guys doing it online.

01:32:47.250 --> 01:32:48.329
You know I'm not going to watch that. They pluck

01:32:48.329 --> 01:32:49.670
these little hairs out and stick them in little

01:32:49.670 --> 01:32:54.069
holes. Yeah. I wonder why more women don't do

01:32:54.069 --> 01:32:55.989
it. Women do it when women start losing their

01:32:55.989 --> 01:32:58.069
hair. Yeah. Quite a few of their patients are

01:32:58.069 --> 01:33:00.170
women. Oh, wow. Because, like, maybe they have

01:33:00.170 --> 01:33:03.390
alopecia. Yeah. Yeah, and they can't grow it

01:33:03.390 --> 01:33:07.090
back, so they transplant it. They do. And you're

01:33:07.090 --> 01:33:08.750
okay with that? Yeah, I'm okay with women wearing

01:33:08.750 --> 01:33:11.149
wigs, too. You just don't like men wearing wigs.

01:33:11.289 --> 01:33:14.529
Nope. I don't like it. That's so interesting.

01:33:14.609 --> 01:33:17.340
I don't like men wearing lipstick, either. Unless

01:33:17.340 --> 01:33:20.460
you're a singer or someone freaky, some non -binary

01:33:20.460 --> 01:33:22.600
person. But you don't want the guy at the grocery

01:33:22.600 --> 01:33:24.840
store checking you out. Well, I don't care. It's

01:33:24.840 --> 01:33:26.579
okay. You might be a weirdo. You're allowed to

01:33:26.579 --> 01:33:27.800
be a weirdo. I don't mind being a weirdo. But

01:33:27.800 --> 01:33:31.720
if you want me, if we're all hanging out and

01:33:31.720 --> 01:33:33.340
we're going to go out to dinner and you show

01:33:33.340 --> 01:33:35.079
up wearing lipstick and eyeshadow, I'm like,

01:33:35.140 --> 01:33:37.340
hey, Bob. What the fuck's going on with your

01:33:37.340 --> 01:33:39.000
face? Like, if you don't think I'm going to make

01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:41.300
fun of that, you're crazy. Yeah, okay. So you

01:33:41.300 --> 01:33:42.739
just make fun of him all night, but you're not

01:33:42.739 --> 01:33:44.399
so mad that you're not going to go out with him?

01:33:44.520 --> 01:33:46.760
No. I mean, it's just, that's a nutty choice.

01:33:46.979 --> 01:33:48.460
But it's like, I wouldn't want you being the

01:33:48.460 --> 01:33:50.220
treasurer of the United States if you had fucking

01:33:50.220 --> 01:33:53.869
lipstick on. It's like you remember that guy

01:33:53.869 --> 01:33:56.250
that was working in the Biden administration

01:33:56.250 --> 01:33:59.569
that was a man with lipstick and a shaved head

01:33:59.569 --> 01:34:00.909
and he was stealing all the women's clothes.

01:34:01.170 --> 01:34:02.890
He was stealing women's clothes from the airport.

01:34:03.210 --> 01:34:05.210
Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm talking

01:34:05.210 --> 01:34:06.550
about. I mean, listen. That's a crazy person.

01:34:06.789 --> 01:34:10.810
I think there were a few. There was a few. They

01:34:10.810 --> 01:34:12.489
were hiring him just because they were weird.

01:34:12.569 --> 01:34:14.569
They were like, this is going to make us look

01:34:14.569 --> 01:34:17.579
woke. We're going to hire all the right people.

01:34:18.000 --> 01:34:21.260
It's going to be very inclusive. OK, great. You're

01:34:21.260 --> 01:34:23.960
hiring mentally ill people. You're hiring a man

01:34:23.960 --> 01:34:25.800
who likes to steal women's clothes from the airport.

01:34:26.319 --> 01:34:28.199
Yeah. And you're putting him in charge of nuclear

01:34:28.199 --> 01:34:33.100
energy. I mean, that is OK. So this goes back

01:34:33.100 --> 01:34:36.000
to politics, right? Yeah. So you watch that and

01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:38.699
then the next election, it's a new group of people

01:34:38.699 --> 01:34:41.659
and they're weird. Right. So it's not like just

01:34:41.659 --> 01:34:45.109
one side is. Oh, no, no, no, no. I don't think

01:34:45.109 --> 01:34:46.989
I think that's a big trap to think that it's

01:34:46.989 --> 01:34:49.449
only the Republicans or only the Democrats that

01:34:49.449 --> 01:34:52.250
are weird. No, everybody who wants to do that,

01:34:52.369 --> 01:34:55.569
the vast majority of them are unhinged because

01:34:55.569 --> 01:34:59.250
that is not a normal job. And they're not good

01:34:59.250 --> 01:35:01.529
at it. That's the other thing. They're not good

01:35:01.529 --> 01:35:04.289
at talking. They're not good at public speaking.

01:35:05.060 --> 01:35:07.819
Even the best ones are like – that's why when

01:35:07.819 --> 01:35:09.579
a guy like Obama or a guy like Clinton comes

01:35:09.579 --> 01:35:13.100
along, like, holy shit. Or Trump. Right. They're

01:35:13.100 --> 01:35:15.239
so good at, like, talking to large groups of

01:35:15.239 --> 01:35:18.079
people and being themselves. So when someone's

01:35:18.079 --> 01:35:20.939
not good at that, it's, like, glaringly obvious

01:35:20.939 --> 01:35:24.699
because most people who are good at that kind

01:35:24.699 --> 01:35:27.579
of stuff, they don't want that job. Right. That

01:35:27.579 --> 01:35:31.859
job's horrible. Right. Yeah. That job is crazy.

01:35:32.119 --> 01:35:35.640
Yeah. Job's nuts. But then do you have to be

01:35:35.640 --> 01:35:38.600
good at talking? You do. You do because it's

01:35:38.600 --> 01:35:40.380
part of the campaign trail. Well, right. You

01:35:40.380 --> 01:35:41.140
have to be good at expressing yourself. But that's

01:35:41.140 --> 01:35:45.239
the other thing too is like running for something,

01:35:45.319 --> 01:35:48.039
being part of a campaign is so different than

01:35:48.039 --> 01:35:51.279
actually doing it. Yeah. Than being – they're

01:35:51.279 --> 01:35:53.899
completely – it's like auditioning. It's so much

01:35:53.899 --> 01:35:56.340
like auditioning. But it's completely – it is.

01:35:56.680 --> 01:35:59.399
It's a completely different skill set. A different

01:35:59.399 --> 01:36:02.140
job. A different skill set. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

01:36:02.279 --> 01:36:04.619
So it's like, yeah. At least auditioning you

01:36:04.619 --> 01:36:07.319
actually acting in the room. Yeah. You know,

01:36:07.340 --> 01:36:09.159
when you're running for president, you're not

01:36:09.159 --> 01:36:11.340
running for president in front of everybody.

01:36:11.439 --> 01:36:13.140
This is how I'm going to do it. You're going

01:36:13.140 --> 01:36:15.340
to pretend to be my chief of staff. Yeah. You're

01:36:15.340 --> 01:36:17.600
going to be the secretary of defense. I'm going

01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:19.819
to put on a play. I'm going to show you how I

01:36:19.819 --> 01:36:22.619
would handle it if I ran across the line. I would

01:36:22.619 --> 01:36:25.500
rather that. I would like to see a campaign like

01:36:25.500 --> 01:36:27.800
that where it's just a little mini play. A little

01:36:27.800 --> 01:36:29.920
mini play. Yeah. It's like a little cabinet meeting.

01:36:30.119 --> 01:36:32.960
Yes. A little Cuban Missile Crisis right in front

01:36:32.960 --> 01:36:35.140
of everybody's eyes. And just to see how everyone

01:36:35.140 --> 01:36:38.720
would handle it. Yeah. Well, that's why when

01:36:38.720 --> 01:36:41.380
people pretend to be a president in a film, people

01:36:41.380 --> 01:36:43.000
go, you know what? He would be a great president.

01:36:43.579 --> 01:36:45.220
Like people do that all the time. That's true.

01:36:45.300 --> 01:36:47.239
That's how Zelensky became the president of Ukraine.

01:36:47.880 --> 01:36:50.520
Because he was a good actor. He was an actor

01:36:50.520 --> 01:36:53.960
as a president in a TV show. And that's why everybody

01:36:53.960 --> 01:36:57.000
liked him. Did you know that? I knew that he

01:36:57.000 --> 01:37:00.420
was an actor. I didn't know he was playing the

01:37:00.420 --> 01:37:02.779
president. He was playing the president. He was

01:37:02.779 --> 01:37:04.979
a comedian. And he was playing the president

01:37:04.979 --> 01:37:07.630
in a television show. And people loved it. And

01:37:07.630 --> 01:37:08.829
they're like, he should be the real president.

01:37:09.250 --> 01:37:11.350
That's how goofy people are. Well, yeah. That

01:37:11.350 --> 01:37:13.149
could definitely happen in this country, don't

01:37:13.149 --> 01:37:15.630
you think? 100%. All the people that have played

01:37:15.630 --> 01:37:17.789
the president, people will be like, yeah, that

01:37:17.789 --> 01:37:21.210
guy could definitely do it. Like Martin Sheen?

01:37:21.270 --> 01:37:23.930
Martin Sheen. 100%. People will say, yeah. He

01:37:23.930 --> 01:37:25.289
could probably be the president right now if

01:37:25.289 --> 01:37:27.970
he wanted to. Yeah. I mean, if someone like that,

01:37:28.029 --> 01:37:30.989
like a top -notch actor, really wanted to campaign,

01:37:31.270 --> 01:37:34.069
everybody would be fucked. Except for they just

01:37:34.069 --> 01:37:37.149
tear him apart and attack him and make up a bunch

01:37:37.149 --> 01:37:39.569
of stuff about him and his family. And actors,

01:37:39.789 --> 01:37:44.289
they have thinner skin than politicians. Some

01:37:44.289 --> 01:37:47.430
of them do, yeah. Most of them. Most of them.

01:37:47.449 --> 01:37:50.189
Because as an actor, you're putting yourself

01:37:50.189 --> 01:37:52.270
out there all the time and you feel insecure.

01:37:52.569 --> 01:37:55.449
People are, if one person doesn't like you or

01:37:55.449 --> 01:37:57.609
says that you're horrible, then it's like, oh

01:37:57.609 --> 01:38:00.149
my God. But politicians are like, what else you

01:38:00.149 --> 01:38:03.039
got? That's it. Well, they're just used to being

01:38:03.039 --> 01:38:06.920
full of shit. They live in it. They're comfortable

01:38:06.920 --> 01:38:09.479
in it. I think that there are some politicians

01:38:09.479 --> 01:38:14.539
that are true, that are authentic and truly working

01:38:14.539 --> 01:38:19.140
to make the country better. Absolutely. That

01:38:19.140 --> 01:38:21.819
is one thing that I've seen. I think there are

01:38:21.819 --> 01:38:27.720
people on death row that are innocent. There

01:38:27.720 --> 01:38:29.880
are just so few and far between. I just don't

01:38:29.880 --> 01:38:33.479
think it's most. I think the reality – What do

01:38:33.479 --> 01:38:36.159
you think – why do you think most – why would

01:38:36.159 --> 01:38:39.960
most people do it that aren't interested in truly

01:38:39.960 --> 01:38:45.859
making the country better or bettering the government?

01:38:46.159 --> 01:38:51.579
Well, it all depends upon what is – what's your

01:38:51.579 --> 01:38:54.659
motivation? Like what are you doing it for? And

01:38:54.659 --> 01:38:57.180
I think most of them are doing it for the same

01:38:57.180 --> 01:38:59.680
reason why people become famous. They're doing

01:38:59.680 --> 01:39:01.600
it because they want to be special and they want

01:39:01.600 --> 01:39:04.899
to say the things that people want to hear so

01:39:04.899 --> 01:39:06.340
that people like them and then they can make

01:39:06.340 --> 01:39:08.359
money. I think that's why they do it. And then

01:39:08.359 --> 01:39:10.739
once you get in, here's the thing that seems

01:39:10.739 --> 01:39:13.489
to be. pretty apparent, is that once you get

01:39:13.489 --> 01:39:17.069
in for the most part, you have to adhere to the

01:39:17.069 --> 01:39:20.130
mindset of all the other people that are in your

01:39:20.130 --> 01:39:22.569
business. And if you don't, you get cast, like

01:39:22.569 --> 01:39:25.350
John Fetterman, like you get cast out. They hate

01:39:25.350 --> 01:39:27.130
that guy now. They're mad at him because he says,

01:39:27.149 --> 01:39:28.949
I think you should probably have ID to vote.

01:39:29.010 --> 01:39:31.750
I like John Fetterman. He's great. Yeah. He's

01:39:31.750 --> 01:39:35.789
a sweet guy. And he says, he's authentic. That

01:39:35.789 --> 01:39:39.869
guy genuinely worked in charities for his whole

01:39:39.869 --> 01:39:44.090
life. Like he genuinely worked in doing philanthropy

01:39:44.090 --> 01:39:47.170
work and like real stuff. Like he's not a greedy

01:39:47.170 --> 01:39:50.250
guy. He walks around a Carhartt hoodie and shorts.

01:39:50.350 --> 01:39:52.550
He went to the fucking inauguration in shorts

01:39:52.550 --> 01:39:55.590
and a Carhartt hoodie. And I talked to him when

01:39:55.590 --> 01:39:58.029
he was there. He's like genuinely sweet, like

01:39:58.029 --> 01:40:00.649
in real life. Yeah. He's a nice guy. He is who

01:40:00.649 --> 01:40:03.090
he is. Big teddy bear. But a nice guy. Yeah.

01:40:03.189 --> 01:40:05.369
And unfortunately, he had that stroke. And so

01:40:05.369 --> 01:40:08.210
it messes with his ability to recall things.

01:40:08.369 --> 01:40:11.289
So when you talk to him, like on a show, he'll

01:40:11.289 --> 01:40:14.649
have like a little iPad that translates stuff.

01:40:14.789 --> 01:40:17.689
Yeah. Just so he can recall the question and

01:40:17.689 --> 01:40:19.470
do it again. But, you know, he's a smart guy.

01:40:19.710 --> 01:40:22.869
Yeah. He just has a weird problem. Yeah. But

01:40:22.869 --> 01:40:26.970
the thing is, like, you have to adhere. And if

01:40:26.970 --> 01:40:28.850
you don't, you're not allowed to have a deviating

01:40:28.850 --> 01:40:31.489
opinion. If you do, you get cast out. You know,

01:40:31.529 --> 01:40:33.369
like Thomas Massey. You see the same thing in

01:40:33.369 --> 01:40:36.630
the Republicans. Like anybody that has an opinion

01:40:36.630 --> 01:40:38.810
that doesn't deviate with the groupthink, you

01:40:38.810 --> 01:40:40.770
get cast out. They'll call you a traitor. There's

01:40:40.770 --> 01:40:42.609
so terrible things about you. There's a lot of

01:40:42.609 --> 01:40:44.829
theatrics. There's a lot of that. And I think

01:40:44.829 --> 01:40:47.329
there's a lot of people that are in that business

01:40:47.329 --> 01:40:50.850
that start off with really good intentions. Yeah.

01:40:50.869 --> 01:40:54.390
And then you see them slowly give in. They slowly

01:40:54.390 --> 01:40:57.930
succumb to the weight of what that position is.

01:41:02.380 --> 01:41:06.039
They're making a lot of money. Oh, Congress people?

01:41:06.399 --> 01:41:09.600
You think they are? Oh, yeah. The way they make

01:41:09.600 --> 01:41:12.119
money is inside of trading, Cheryl. Oh, God,

01:41:12.199 --> 01:41:15.000
I'm so... Oh, it's so ubiquitous. That's the

01:41:15.000 --> 01:41:17.380
dark, dark secret. But it's not even a secret.

01:41:17.520 --> 01:41:19.220
Is that why they never leave? Well, that's why

01:41:19.220 --> 01:41:21.939
Nancy Pelosi's 1 ,000 years old. She's worth

01:41:21.939 --> 01:41:25.659
$400 million, and she makes $170 grand a year.

01:41:25.800 --> 01:41:27.930
Make sense out of that. Yeah, it is a little...

01:41:27.930 --> 01:41:30.449
Make sense out of that. First of all, if you

01:41:30.449 --> 01:41:32.789
had $400 million in the bank, would you keep

01:41:32.789 --> 01:41:35.350
showing up for work if you're 85 fucking years

01:41:35.350 --> 01:41:38.250
old and you're in a job that pays $170 ,000 a

01:41:38.250 --> 01:41:40.350
year? I'd look at that paycheck every week. I'd

01:41:40.350 --> 01:41:43.050
be like, I'm good. I'm going to get out of here.

01:41:43.460 --> 01:41:46.020
I'm going to go relax on an island somewhere.

01:41:46.100 --> 01:41:48.720
I'm going fishing. I'm going to go to Mexico

01:41:48.720 --> 01:41:51.340
and go fishing. This is nuts. I'd be enjoying

01:41:51.340 --> 01:41:53.960
this money. Why would you still be working? Because

01:41:53.960 --> 01:41:56.859
her net worth keeps going up and up and up. You've

01:41:56.859 --> 01:41:59.199
seen PelosiTracker .com. Have you ever seen that?

01:42:00.569 --> 01:42:03.949
Boys talk about it. Yeah. It's crazy. She's better

01:42:03.949 --> 01:42:06.189
at the stock market than Warren Buffett. She's

01:42:06.189 --> 01:42:08.550
better at the stock market than George Soros.

01:42:08.729 --> 01:42:15.930
But is it possible that she thinks she is moving

01:42:15.930 --> 01:42:21.170
the needle in politics in the right way? It's

01:42:21.170 --> 01:42:23.949
possible. Sure. It's possible that she convinces

01:42:23.949 --> 01:42:28.159
herself of that. It's also possible that. Staying

01:42:28.159 --> 01:42:30.460
in office is the best way to ensure you're not

01:42:30.460 --> 01:42:33.399
prosecuted. Well, yeah, because if somebody goes

01:42:33.399 --> 01:42:36.199
after you, if that's not legal and if you really

01:42:36.199 --> 01:42:38.319
did have insider information and you bought a

01:42:38.319 --> 01:42:40.140
bunch of stock and something that you knew that

01:42:40.140 --> 01:42:43.539
I think there's a real good case that that shouldn't

01:42:43.539 --> 01:42:46.649
be legal. It seems like it is legal now. But

01:42:46.649 --> 01:42:48.189
if you're involved. I don't know. Is it legal?

01:42:48.350 --> 01:42:50.829
I don't think it's a very gray area because the

01:42:50.829 --> 01:42:52.810
Congress people are allowed to trade and buy

01:42:52.810 --> 01:42:55.329
stocks. And they most certainly have bought stocks

01:42:55.329 --> 01:42:58.229
when they knew that a certain market is going

01:42:58.229 --> 01:43:01.050
to be affected by a decision that only they knew

01:43:01.050 --> 01:43:04.100
was going to be made. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot

01:43:04.100 --> 01:43:05.840
of evidence for that. Like, that's how you make

01:43:05.840 --> 01:43:08.380
that much money. There's a lot of them. And it's

01:43:08.380 --> 01:43:11.659
not a Republican or a Democrat issue. It's red,

01:43:11.720 --> 01:43:12.760
blue, red, blue. It's across the board. Yeah.

01:43:12.859 --> 01:43:15.140
They're all making crazy loot. Not all of them.

01:43:15.180 --> 01:43:17.020
Like, Tulsi Gabbard didn't do it. There's a bunch

01:43:17.020 --> 01:43:18.600
of people that didn't do it. Yeah. But there's

01:43:18.600 --> 01:43:21.199
a lot of them that wind up making a ton of loot.

01:43:21.319 --> 01:43:25.060
And they get super defensive about it. Well,

01:43:25.060 --> 01:43:30.659
nobody wants to say, yeah. I did it. Well, tell

01:43:30.659 --> 01:43:35.460
me how you became worth $400 million. Yeah. Without

01:43:35.460 --> 01:43:39.159
providing any product. Yeah. Like, if you invented

01:43:39.159 --> 01:43:41.880
some new mouse that's, like, better than any

01:43:41.880 --> 01:43:44.199
other computer mouse. Yeah. Like, oh, I see why

01:43:44.199 --> 01:43:46.539
you made that money. Congratulations. Yeah. But

01:43:46.539 --> 01:43:49.260
what'd you do? What'd you do? Most people who

01:43:49.260 --> 01:43:51.819
make $170 ,000 a year are kind of doing well.

01:43:52.039 --> 01:43:53.680
They're either doing okay. They're doing well.

01:43:53.800 --> 01:43:55.359
Probably have a nice car. Probably live in a

01:43:55.359 --> 01:43:57.039
nice house. Yeah. You're not worth $400 million.

01:43:57.289 --> 01:43:59.689
No. That would be the rarest of rare people.

01:43:59.789 --> 01:44:02.310
Imagine if you were making $170 ,000 and you

01:44:02.310 --> 01:44:05.109
were working side by side with Bob and all of

01:44:05.109 --> 01:44:07.029
a sudden Bob's buying a fucking Ferrari. He's

01:44:07.029 --> 01:44:09.250
got his own private jet. He's like showing up

01:44:09.250 --> 01:44:11.770
with his driver. Bob, what are you doing? But

01:44:11.770 --> 01:44:16.310
and or, and I don't know the answer to this,

01:44:16.310 --> 01:44:19.710
but I probably should. Aren't there finances

01:44:19.710 --> 01:44:22.989
exposed every year or no? Is that just when you're

01:44:22.989 --> 01:44:26.949
run for president? I don't know. I mean. certainly

01:44:26.949 --> 01:44:28.390
when you run for president, then they want to

01:44:28.390 --> 01:44:31.149
audit you or they want to see your tax forms.

01:44:31.409 --> 01:44:34.590
Yeah, which is cute. It's fun. But when you look

01:44:34.590 --> 01:44:36.289
at the net worth, and it's very difficult to

01:44:36.289 --> 01:44:39.649
find out what someone's net worth is, but if

01:44:39.649 --> 01:44:41.189
you look at the net worth of congresspeople,

01:44:41.470 --> 01:44:43.970
a lot of them are millionaires. But were they

01:44:43.970 --> 01:44:46.069
millionaires before they win it? A lot of them

01:44:46.069 --> 01:44:49.829
weren't. Well, Ilhan Omar, she was in debt before

01:44:49.829 --> 01:44:51.010
she got into office. Yeah, this is a question,

01:44:51.130 --> 01:44:53.630
right? Yeah, now she's worth millions. Kind of

01:44:53.630 --> 01:44:56.960
odd. She's good. She's really good at her job.

01:44:57.020 --> 01:44:59.180
Got lucky? She's really good at her job. She's

01:44:59.180 --> 01:45:02.739
really good at her job. I mean, I am seeing,

01:45:02.739 --> 01:45:06.920
you know, through the lens with which I'm looking.

01:45:09.000 --> 01:45:11.960
I've seen a lot of people come in to the administration

01:45:11.960 --> 01:45:16.760
that. have already had a lot of money. So in

01:45:16.760 --> 01:45:19.220
that case, it feels like they're coming in for

01:45:19.220 --> 01:45:21.659
the right reason. Right. But when they got in,

01:45:21.720 --> 01:45:23.359
how much more money did they make once they got

01:45:23.359 --> 01:45:25.479
in? That's when things get weird. Did you start

01:45:25.479 --> 01:45:28.180
your own crypto coin and do a pump and dump?

01:45:28.359 --> 01:45:31.239
Because, you know, that's odd. It's odd that

01:45:31.239 --> 01:45:35.199
that's legal. Isn't it? And I don't have the

01:45:35.199 --> 01:45:36.800
answer to this either. You probably would more

01:45:36.800 --> 01:45:40.260
than anybody. But is there a group out there,

01:45:40.279 --> 01:45:42.819
a watchdog group that's looking at all of this

01:45:42.819 --> 01:45:45.420
that's like, here's another thing I just discovered

01:45:45.420 --> 01:45:48.300
about this stock that's such and such voted for?

01:45:48.539 --> 01:45:50.300
There's a lot of people online that do that.

01:45:50.380 --> 01:45:51.979
There's a lot of independent journalists that

01:45:51.979 --> 01:45:54.239
do that. But the thing is, it never gets covered

01:45:54.239 --> 01:45:56.859
in mainstream news. Right. When was the last

01:45:56.859 --> 01:45:59.039
time you saw mainstream news doing a deep dive

01:45:59.039 --> 01:46:03.680
on Congress people's income? Never. Yeah. It

01:46:03.680 --> 01:46:05.180
doesn't seem like, because they want to get access

01:46:05.180 --> 01:46:07.260
to those Congress people. Yeah. They want them

01:46:07.260 --> 01:46:11.699
to come on their shows. It's a weird business.

01:46:11.920 --> 01:46:14.479
It's a weird business because most certainly

01:46:14.479 --> 01:46:17.460
when people get into office, they profit immensely.

01:46:18.560 --> 01:46:21.680
So let's just pretend you're the president. If

01:46:21.680 --> 01:46:23.640
you become the president, I think the president

01:46:23.640 --> 01:46:27.359
gets paid. What do they get paid? Like $450 ,000

01:46:27.359 --> 01:46:29.399
a year or something like that? How much does

01:46:29.399 --> 01:46:31.180
the president get? By the way, Trump doesn't

01:46:31.180 --> 01:46:33.060
take that money. He doesn't take a dime of it.

01:46:33.939 --> 01:46:37.340
$400 ,000. $400 ,000. But he does that with cryptocurrency.

01:46:39.020 --> 01:46:42.180
But the point is, it's like, so you make that

01:46:42.180 --> 01:46:44.739
money and then you're in office for four years

01:46:44.739 --> 01:46:46.899
and you go, OK, well, are you going to live like

01:46:46.899 --> 01:46:49.359
Jimmy Carter? Because Jimmy Carter lived a simple

01:46:49.359 --> 01:46:51.899
life until he died. He never profited off of

01:46:51.899 --> 01:46:54.199
the fact that he was a president. Or are you

01:46:54.199 --> 01:46:55.520
going to be one of those people that give speeches

01:46:55.520 --> 01:46:59.039
to banks and you inexplicably make like 300 grand

01:46:59.039 --> 01:47:01.979
to just talk for an hour, which is bizarre. That

01:47:01.979 --> 01:47:08.300
seems like a way they can pay you legally. If

01:47:08.300 --> 01:47:12.579
I was being cynical, that seems like you did

01:47:12.579 --> 01:47:15.319
something when you're in office and they made

01:47:15.319 --> 01:47:19.189
a kind of deal. You're going to be on your boring

01:47:19.189 --> 01:47:21.949
-ass speaking tour. Oh, yeah. And rake it in.

01:47:22.090 --> 01:47:26.390
And, you know, sitting on boards, right? It makes

01:47:26.390 --> 01:47:30.409
me think of the opioid situation with, what's

01:47:30.409 --> 01:47:33.609
their names? The Sackler family. Yeah. Yes. Yeah,

01:47:33.770 --> 01:47:36.310
there's a lot of that. The guy from the FDA that

01:47:36.310 --> 01:47:41.600
approved it and then left. They found him. Really?

01:47:41.640 --> 01:47:43.920
Yeah. When that documentary, Painkiller, came

01:47:43.920 --> 01:47:46.779
out on Netflix, which is just so good. Peter

01:47:46.779 --> 01:47:49.739
Berg did that. It's so good. Yeah. Not documentary.

01:47:49.779 --> 01:47:53.060
Documentary drama. Yeah. Matthew Broderick plays

01:47:53.060 --> 01:47:55.000
the Sackler. It was really good. Really good.

01:47:55.420 --> 01:47:58.279
The guy who approved it, apparently he was saying

01:47:58.279 --> 01:48:01.920
no forever. They took him to a hotel for like

01:48:01.920 --> 01:48:05.779
three days. The Stackler family. Yeah. Took the

01:48:05.779 --> 01:48:08.659
FDA guy. I mean, what did they do in that hotel?

01:48:08.880 --> 01:48:10.439
I'd like to be a fly on the wall. They closed

01:48:10.439 --> 01:48:12.659
the doors. Yeah. I don't know what happened.

01:48:12.779 --> 01:48:15.779
Suddenly. And then he got a nice job afterwards

01:48:15.779 --> 01:48:18.380
where he got paid really well. That's a gross

01:48:18.380 --> 01:48:20.979
thing that they do where there's this revolving

01:48:20.979 --> 01:48:23.779
door between the FDA and all these other departments

01:48:23.779 --> 01:48:26.460
and then these other corporations. So you leave

01:48:26.460 --> 01:48:29.199
and then you get this amazing job working for

01:48:29.199 --> 01:48:30.880
the very corporation that you were regulating.

01:48:31.119 --> 01:48:33.100
Yeah. Like if you were doing a good job, wouldn't

01:48:33.100 --> 01:48:34.600
they want to have nothing to do with you? Yeah.

01:48:34.640 --> 01:48:36.720
Like this asshole kept us from making billions

01:48:36.720 --> 01:48:38.800
of dollars. Yeah. We're going to hire him and

01:48:38.800 --> 01:48:42.859
give him $2 million in a consulting job? Consulting?

01:48:42.859 --> 01:48:46.439
Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of a way to pay people

01:48:46.439 --> 01:48:51.000
off. Seems like it. Someone like me on the outside,

01:48:51.159 --> 01:48:52.720
I'm just looking at it logically. Just looking

01:48:52.720 --> 01:48:54.920
at it from my point of view. Yeah, of course.

01:48:55.159 --> 01:48:57.840
Yeah, seems like it. That's why. And it's legal

01:48:57.840 --> 01:49:01.720
somehow or another. That's a weird loophole that

01:49:01.720 --> 01:49:04.300
should be closed up. You should not be able to

01:49:04.300 --> 01:49:07.680
regulate an industry. And then leave immediately

01:49:07.680 --> 01:49:10.140
and go work for said industry. Yes. And make

01:49:10.140 --> 01:49:12.659
a shit ton of money. Well, right. This is awesome.

01:49:12.760 --> 01:49:13.920
Because it seems like maybe you guys talked.

01:49:13.920 --> 01:49:16.380
Maybe somebody is doing something. Maybe somebody

01:49:16.380 --> 01:49:18.920
talked. That's why a lot of people don't like

01:49:18.920 --> 01:49:21.579
Bobby. Bobby's like. Well, he calls people out

01:49:21.579 --> 01:49:23.479
on that stuff. Fucking around with this. Yeah.

01:49:23.539 --> 01:49:25.399
The Sackler family one is nuts. It is. Because

01:49:25.399 --> 01:49:28.279
it doesn't seem like they're in trouble. It doesn't

01:49:28.279 --> 01:49:30.960
seem like. There was a deal, a sweetheart deal,

01:49:31.140 --> 01:49:32.500
where they were going to give a certain amount

01:49:32.500 --> 01:49:34.699
of money, a small percentage of the amount that

01:49:34.699 --> 01:49:37.460
they profited. And then that would also make

01:49:37.460 --> 01:49:39.760
them immune to prosecution. But then a judge

01:49:39.760 --> 01:49:42.020
pulled that deal right after the documentary

01:49:42.020 --> 01:49:44.819
came out or the docuseries came out. But then

01:49:44.819 --> 01:49:46.500
you never heard another thing about it. No. So

01:49:46.500 --> 01:49:47.979
let's put this on ice for a little bit and just

01:49:47.979 --> 01:49:49.060
everybody shut the fuck up. That's another thing

01:49:49.060 --> 01:49:50.279
I'm going to have to look up tonight. Everybody

01:49:50.279 --> 01:49:52.039
shut the fuck up. And then it never made it in

01:49:52.039 --> 01:49:54.500
the news anymore. Yeah. And it just kind of drifted

01:49:54.500 --> 01:49:56.159
away. Nobody talks about it. But that family.

01:49:56.829 --> 01:49:59.210
Is responsible for the death of who knows how

01:49:59.210 --> 01:50:02.090
many people. Yeah. Ruined who knows how many

01:50:02.090 --> 01:50:05.050
lives. Yeah. Destroyed families. Destroyed children.

01:50:05.149 --> 01:50:07.590
I mean think about if your dad's hooked on opiates

01:50:07.590 --> 01:50:09.729
and you become homeless and you're a child. What

01:50:09.729 --> 01:50:12.470
kind of fucking crazy path does your life take

01:50:12.470 --> 01:50:14.869
where it would have never taken that path if

01:50:14.869 --> 01:50:18.310
your doctor didn't sell your dad something that

01:50:18.310 --> 01:50:21.270
completely addicts him to it. Right. And prisons

01:50:21.270 --> 01:50:24.670
him. Right. Imprisons him in a life of just.

01:50:24.970 --> 01:50:27.409
Fucking horrible addiction. Well, that's why,

01:50:27.569 --> 01:50:30.609
you know, when people talk about conspiracy theories,

01:50:30.750 --> 01:50:35.090
right? It's a conspiracy theory until it's proven

01:50:35.090 --> 01:50:41.430
true. So if that can happen, if people can tell

01:50:41.430 --> 01:50:44.689
doctors this is not addictive and doctors believe

01:50:44.689 --> 01:50:48.510
it and doctors push it, and then you find out

01:50:48.510 --> 01:50:53.329
later, oh, yeah, they knew. There we have a...

01:50:53.529 --> 01:50:55.729
documents that proved that they knew that it

01:50:55.729 --> 01:50:57.590
was addictive. They knew how destructive it was,

01:50:57.630 --> 01:51:00.810
but they did it anyway. It's like people can

01:51:00.810 --> 01:51:03.409
believe that, but then they have a hard time

01:51:03.409 --> 01:51:06.890
believing it about other things. They can't imagine.

01:51:07.569 --> 01:51:11.210
Well, they don't want to seem foolish. And this

01:51:11.210 --> 01:51:13.850
is the thing about conspiracy theories. They've

01:51:13.850 --> 01:51:15.829
done a really good job of making it seem like

01:51:15.829 --> 01:51:18.289
you're a fool if you believe in conspiracy theories.

01:51:18.880 --> 01:51:20.920
And they did a really good job of that during

01:51:20.920 --> 01:51:23.260
the Kennedy assassination. That's when the term

01:51:23.260 --> 01:51:26.600
conspiracy theorist really became popular. It

01:51:26.600 --> 01:51:29.260
wasn't really a thing that people talked about

01:51:29.260 --> 01:51:30.899
all the time before the Kennedy assassination.

01:51:31.039 --> 01:51:35.079
And then after that, that became this term that

01:51:35.079 --> 01:51:37.840
they would use for kooks. Yeah. A label. You're

01:51:37.840 --> 01:51:39.720
a conspiracy theorist. Yeah. They use that for

01:51:39.720 --> 01:51:41.680
me all the time. I was about to say. Yeah, all

01:51:41.680 --> 01:51:42.699
the time. Are you like the king of conspiracy?

01:51:42.699 --> 01:51:45.520
I am a conspiracy theorist. Yes. Because, by

01:51:45.520 --> 01:51:48.619
the way, what is a conspiracy? two or more people

01:51:48.619 --> 01:51:52.100
working together to do something nefarious? It's

01:51:52.100 --> 01:51:53.819
always happened. It's been going on forever.

01:51:54.000 --> 01:51:55.899
There's a ton of them that I could just rattle

01:51:55.899 --> 01:51:58.039
off the top of my head. And I've had a few conversations

01:51:58.039 --> 01:51:59.939
with people on the podcast where they're like,

01:52:00.039 --> 01:52:02.659
I think most conspiracies can be attributed to

01:52:02.659 --> 01:52:04.539
ineptitude and this and that. I'm like, no, no,

01:52:04.579 --> 01:52:07.800
no, no, no, no, no, no. Not most. A few. Some.

01:52:08.279 --> 01:52:11.039
But when there's profit involved, when there's

01:52:11.039 --> 01:52:13.020
profit involved, when there's power involved,

01:52:13.340 --> 01:52:16.510
when there's control resources involved. Most

01:52:16.510 --> 01:52:19.529
conspiracies, in fact, turn out to be true. The

01:52:19.529 --> 01:52:22.069
more you dig deep, the more you realize there's

01:52:22.069 --> 01:52:24.390
a concerted effort to make these conspiracies

01:52:24.390 --> 01:52:26.569
seem ridiculous because you don't want to be

01:52:26.569 --> 01:52:33.090
taken as a fool. I am a fool. So if you take

01:52:33.090 --> 01:52:36.829
me as a fool, congratulations. You're accurate.

01:52:37.250 --> 01:52:39.949
I'm a foolish person. I'm a professional clown.

01:52:40.210 --> 01:52:44.510
But why do you say that? I'm the easiest person

01:52:44.510 --> 01:52:49.149
to mock of all time. I am a conspiracy theorist

01:52:49.149 --> 01:52:53.229
who is a cage fighting commentator. Like half

01:52:53.229 --> 01:52:56.130
of the time, half of the time when I'm working,

01:52:56.310 --> 01:52:59.229
people are getting kicked in the face. Like that's,

01:52:59.229 --> 01:53:01.810
you know, it's like that's like normal, normal.

01:53:02.010 --> 01:53:04.090
I mean, but like people look at that as like

01:53:04.090 --> 01:53:06.789
that's normal for you. Like that's like brutish,

01:53:06.789 --> 01:53:10.409
barbaric, like stupid meathead behavior. Like,

01:53:10.470 --> 01:53:12.800
right. Okay. That's okay. Yeah. I don't care.

01:53:13.039 --> 01:53:16.180
Also, I think they faked the Gulf of Tonkin incident

01:53:16.180 --> 01:53:19.300
to get us into Vietnam. Also, production of heroin

01:53:19.300 --> 01:53:22.920
ramped up to 94 % of the world once we occupied

01:53:22.920 --> 01:53:27.319
Afghanistan. Like, what? Like, how much of that's

01:53:27.319 --> 01:53:30.300
real? All of it. Plus, the United States, the

01:53:30.300 --> 01:53:34.579
CIA rather, sold heroin or sold cocaine in L

01:53:34.579 --> 01:53:37.399
.A. ghettos to pay for the Contras versus the

01:53:37.399 --> 01:53:39.819
Sandinistas in Nicaragua. That's all true, too.

01:53:40.359 --> 01:53:42.920
That's real. There's conspiracy theories you

01:53:42.920 --> 01:53:45.960
can get into that are fucking real. And you don't

01:53:45.960 --> 01:53:49.159
mind people. You don't care what people say about

01:53:49.159 --> 01:53:52.319
you. Well, I mean. If they say, no, he's foolish.

01:53:52.619 --> 01:53:56.079
I am foolish. I'm a foolish person. Well, I think

01:53:56.079 --> 01:54:00.039
that gives you superpower to just say, I don't

01:54:00.039 --> 01:54:03.619
care what you think about me. Yes, it's like

01:54:03.619 --> 01:54:06.180
doing improv, right? Well, nobody wants people

01:54:06.180 --> 01:54:08.800
to think badly of them. Right. I don't want people

01:54:08.800 --> 01:54:13.039
to think badly of me. But does it affect your

01:54:13.039 --> 01:54:15.840
day to day? I don't pay attention. Yeah. I don't

01:54:15.840 --> 01:54:17.479
pay attention to it. It's not good for you to

01:54:17.479 --> 01:54:19.460
pay attention. No. I just keep on rolling. If

01:54:19.460 --> 01:54:22.159
you see yourself trending on. I don't see myself

01:54:22.159 --> 01:54:24.199
trending. You don't ever check it. Nope. Never.

01:54:24.659 --> 01:54:27.399
Never. That is so smart. It's not good for you.

01:54:27.439 --> 01:54:29.739
You don't change it. You don't change it. Yeah.

01:54:29.880 --> 01:54:32.439
You just got to keep moving. And with kids, that's

01:54:32.439 --> 01:54:36.020
hard to say. It's hard. It's how kids don't pay

01:54:36.020 --> 01:54:38.199
attention. They're going to pay attention, you

01:54:38.199 --> 01:54:40.340
know, but they become more resilient from paying

01:54:40.340 --> 01:54:42.720
attention. And I hope your kids know who you

01:54:42.720 --> 01:54:45.039
are. I would hope that they get you. Yeah. You

01:54:45.039 --> 01:54:47.680
know, and I think my kids get me and my family

01:54:47.680 --> 01:54:51.420
gets me. Look, I am who I'm a fool, but I'm an

01:54:51.420 --> 01:54:54.960
honest fool. You know, I'll tell you what I believe.

01:54:55.800 --> 01:54:58.159
And it might not make any sense to you. And you

01:54:58.159 --> 01:54:59.460
can mock me all day long. I don't think you're

01:54:59.460 --> 01:55:01.680
a fool. That's what's so funny. I think there's

01:55:01.680 --> 01:55:03.960
some things that I'm foolish with, but it's okay.

01:55:04.180 --> 01:55:07.939
It doesn't bother me. I'm nice. I'm a kind person.

01:55:08.060 --> 01:55:10.279
I try to be. I work hard at it. Well, you're

01:55:10.279 --> 01:55:14.020
smart and you're curious and you're kind to people.

01:55:14.180 --> 01:55:16.520
I think it's important to do. I think it's to

01:55:16.520 --> 01:55:18.720
live a good life. You should have a good community

01:55:18.720 --> 01:55:20.880
of people that you love and you care for and

01:55:20.880 --> 01:55:23.699
you should be as nice to them as you can and

01:55:23.699 --> 01:55:27.640
have some fun in this life. But also. You can't

01:55:27.640 --> 01:55:30.880
be scared of people who don't know you thinking

01:55:30.880 --> 01:55:32.520
that you're an idiot if you're saying something

01:55:32.520 --> 01:55:35.939
you truly believe in. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't

01:55:35.939 --> 01:55:39.100
mind talking about like the moon landing hoax

01:55:39.100 --> 01:55:42.399
or fucking UFOs or I don't care. All the things

01:55:42.399 --> 01:55:43.840
that people are like, oh, that makes you look

01:55:43.840 --> 01:55:47.539
like a kook. Like, good. Who cares? Then don't

01:55:47.539 --> 01:55:50.520
listen. Who cares? Right. You don't have to listen.

01:55:50.720 --> 01:55:52.399
Right. But also like I don't have to audition

01:55:52.399 --> 01:55:54.920
for something. Right. If I did, then maybe I

01:55:54.920 --> 01:55:56.979
would change. I know a lot of comedians that

01:55:56.979 --> 01:55:59.180
kind of change their act once they started getting

01:55:59.180 --> 01:56:01.619
on TV. Yeah. Because they kind of take the edge

01:56:01.619 --> 01:56:03.239
off their act. They don't want to be as controversial.

01:56:03.460 --> 01:56:05.880
Yeah. They're worried about a bit maybe getting.

01:56:06.380 --> 01:56:09.439
clipped and going viral or especially like only

01:56:09.439 --> 01:56:12.060
part of the bit where like it's out of context

01:56:12.060 --> 01:56:14.539
doesn't show the whole bit where you know yes

01:56:14.539 --> 01:56:18.180
even words i mean that that's goes back to you

01:56:18.180 --> 01:56:25.159
know uh the um campaign it's like if any words

01:56:25.159 --> 01:56:27.779
that come out of your mouth they can like you

01:56:27.779 --> 01:56:31.380
said clip Then it's just gone and then it's now

01:56:31.380 --> 01:56:34.359
you're – do you talk about, oh, I – you didn't

01:56:34.359 --> 01:56:36.000
play the whole thing. You didn't say this is

01:56:36.000 --> 01:56:38.500
exhausting. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

01:56:38.520 --> 01:56:39.920
The words came out of your mouth. It doesn't

01:56:39.920 --> 01:56:42.420
matter. Well, look at Trump's lawsuit with the

01:56:42.420 --> 01:56:47.119
BBC. They completely clipped his speech and took

01:56:47.119 --> 01:56:50.520
50 minutes of it out and put another thing at

01:56:50.520 --> 01:56:52.239
the end of it to make it look like he was trying

01:56:52.239 --> 01:56:55.060
to get people to go and attack the Capitol. Yeah,

01:56:55.119 --> 01:56:57.300
that's crazy. It's crazy. And, you know, he's

01:56:57.300 --> 01:56:58.920
suing them now. And then the head of the BBC

01:56:58.920 --> 01:57:01.960
had to resign. And but it's like that is normal.

01:57:02.119 --> 01:57:04.479
That kind of behavior is normal. Yeah. Yeah.

01:57:04.819 --> 01:57:07.399
But what is this election going to look like

01:57:07.399 --> 01:57:11.520
with AI? And it's just going to be craziness.

01:57:11.659 --> 01:57:13.720
So crazy. I mean, the last one was crazy. This

01:57:13.720 --> 01:57:18.399
one's going to be so I can't even imagine what

01:57:18.399 --> 01:57:19.979
it's going to look like. Well, it's also Trump

01:57:19.979 --> 01:57:22.930
has kind of. changed the way people interact

01:57:22.930 --> 01:57:27.029
in debates and in politics you know and there's

01:57:27.029 --> 01:57:29.449
people that are trying to emulate his success

01:57:29.449 --> 01:57:33.630
right which happens in like all art forms and

01:57:33.630 --> 01:57:37.750
I think running for president and being an entertainer

01:57:37.750 --> 01:57:39.989
are kind of connected in the fact that you could

01:57:39.989 --> 01:57:42.109
almost say that like campaigning is kind of a

01:57:42.109 --> 01:57:44.710
performance art absolutely I mean think of like

01:57:45.320 --> 01:57:48.539
Like Kamala Harris. She had that one great speech

01:57:48.539 --> 01:57:50.460
that she did when they announced that she was

01:57:50.460 --> 01:57:52.020
going to run for president. When she said, if

01:57:52.020 --> 01:57:55.060
you're going to say something, say it to my face.

01:57:55.399 --> 01:57:58.800
And everybody went, oh, shit. It's on. And then

01:57:58.800 --> 01:58:01.699
she ramped up in the charts. What was that? Well,

01:58:01.739 --> 01:58:04.460
that was a great performance. That was a piece

01:58:04.460 --> 01:58:06.930
of art. Right. If you're going to be in that,

01:58:07.029 --> 01:58:09.489
that's what that is. So it's like this is what

01:58:09.489 --> 01:58:11.750
these people are doing. And he's changed the

01:58:11.750 --> 01:58:15.130
art form in a lot of ways. Like he is like, yeah,

01:58:15.250 --> 01:58:17.130
you know, like when Elvis Presley came out and

01:58:17.130 --> 01:58:18.930
started shaking his hips and everybody's like,

01:58:19.029 --> 01:58:20.789
what the fuck is going on? Are we allowed to

01:58:20.789 --> 01:58:22.750
do that? I'm going to do that. Right. When Jimi

01:58:22.750 --> 01:58:24.609
Hendrix lit his guitar on fire, everybody's like,

01:58:24.670 --> 01:58:26.310
what the fuck? We can do that. Yeah. You know,

01:58:26.350 --> 01:58:28.470
it's like someone sometimes comes along that

01:58:28.470 --> 01:58:30.750
changes the way people do the thing. Yeah. And

01:58:30.750 --> 01:58:33.750
he has unfortunately turned everyone into an

01:58:33.750 --> 01:58:37.170
insult artist. Whereas you go to the Obama Mitt

01:58:37.170 --> 01:58:39.189
Romney thing, and if you can find the actual

01:58:39.189 --> 01:58:41.170
one, not one where people are commenting on it,

01:58:41.210 --> 01:58:44.050
it's actually interesting. There's another one

01:58:44.050 --> 01:58:46.310
that's the really good one. I think the best

01:58:46.310 --> 01:58:48.890
one is Clinton when he was running for president.

01:58:48.930 --> 01:58:50.850
When Clinton was running for president, he was

01:58:50.850 --> 01:58:53.810
so good. He was so measured. He's a great speaker.

01:58:53.970 --> 01:58:56.350
Oh, not only that, if you listen to what he's

01:58:56.350 --> 01:58:59.470
saying back then, what's really crazy is a lot

01:58:59.470 --> 01:59:02.029
of it are right -wing talking points of today.

01:59:02.489 --> 01:59:05.850
You know, when they talk about immigration. It's

01:59:05.850 --> 01:59:08.930
right -wing talking points of today. It's looking

01:59:08.930 --> 01:59:11.890
out for the American middle class. Even Hillary,

01:59:12.250 --> 01:59:13.970
the things that are going around, the things

01:59:13.970 --> 01:59:17.470
that she said that now people are furious about.

01:59:17.710 --> 01:59:20.020
I know. When she was running for president in

01:59:20.020 --> 01:59:22.760
2008, we've played this clip a bunch of times

01:59:22.760 --> 01:59:25.539
where she's saying, if you're in this country

01:59:25.539 --> 01:59:28.079
illegally. Yeah. First of all, you should have

01:59:28.079 --> 01:59:30.100
to pay a stip fine. And if you've been arrested

01:59:30.100 --> 01:59:32.420
for any crime, you get kicked out of the country.

01:59:32.460 --> 01:59:34.960
No questions asked. Everybody's cheering. And

01:59:34.960 --> 01:59:37.260
you should learn to speak English. And everybody

01:59:37.260 --> 01:59:41.300
went nuts. Yeah. Like that's so MAGA. It's so

01:59:41.300 --> 01:59:44.560
MAGA. It's more MAGA than like J .D. Vance. Yeah.

01:59:44.779 --> 01:59:48.460
It really is. It's crazy. It is pretty. It is

01:59:48.460 --> 01:59:54.399
crazy. It's crazy. But also like no self -awareness.

01:59:55.539 --> 02:00:00.659
Some of the Democrats that are watching what's

02:00:00.659 --> 02:00:03.439
happening and also. I just don't think there's

02:00:03.439 --> 02:00:06.420
anybody capable. There's no other than Gavin

02:00:06.420 --> 02:00:09.680
Newsom. Right. Who is like the ultimate like

02:00:09.680 --> 02:00:13.319
slick. politician guy and regardless of how the

02:00:13.319 --> 02:00:15.579
state goes in California regardless of how the

02:00:15.579 --> 02:00:18.060
city of San Francisco goes he keeps winning because

02:00:18.060 --> 02:00:20.920
he's really good at like being slick and like

02:00:20.920 --> 02:00:23.279
saying things and pretending he means things

02:00:23.279 --> 02:00:27.060
well he's a fucking politician and he's a good

02:00:27.060 --> 02:00:28.960
looking guy and he's tall and he's got nice hair

02:00:28.960 --> 02:00:31.520
and people are dumb and they're like he could

02:00:31.520 --> 02:00:34.819
be the president he's my president he could definitely

02:00:34.819 --> 02:00:38.100
play the president on TV 100 % right so like

02:00:38.100 --> 02:00:40.960
that's all you have to do You have to just be—

02:00:40.960 --> 02:00:43.659
Look the part. Talk the talk. Say it the way

02:00:43.659 --> 02:00:46.500
we like a president to say it. And it's crazy

02:00:46.500 --> 02:00:49.960
because they're the only people today that are

02:00:49.960 --> 02:00:52.300
allowed to talk like that and say things that

02:00:52.300 --> 02:00:55.840
we know aren't true in a way that is a way that

02:00:55.840 --> 02:00:58.300
a person talks when they're running for president

02:00:58.300 --> 02:01:00.800
that they never talk like in real life. That's

02:01:00.800 --> 02:01:02.680
true. If someone was over your house and they

02:01:02.680 --> 02:01:03.939
started talking like that, you're like, Steve

02:01:03.939 --> 02:01:05.619
is fucking crazy. We've got to get him out of

02:01:05.619 --> 02:01:09.500
the house. He's very presentational. It's so

02:01:09.500 --> 02:01:11.920
fake. You're right. There's a lot of the shouting

02:01:11.920 --> 02:01:15.000
and yelling. It's weird. It is weird. And now

02:01:15.000 --> 02:01:17.000
it's become insulting. Now it's a lot of insulting.

02:01:17.119 --> 02:01:20.000
And Newsom has tried to ape Trump's behavior

02:01:20.000 --> 02:01:24.079
patterns. I hope the pendulum swings back to

02:01:24.079 --> 02:01:25.359
a more dignified. Do you need a really good candidate

02:01:25.359 --> 02:01:27.000
from the left? I don't know who that's going

02:01:27.000 --> 02:01:30.140
to be. I don't see anybody. That James Tallarico

02:01:30.140 --> 02:01:32.439
guy is kind of interesting. He's pretty interesting.

02:01:32.539 --> 02:01:34.180
I've had him on the podcast before. He's a very

02:01:34.180 --> 02:01:37.359
religious guy and very opposed to them putting

02:01:37.359 --> 02:01:40.020
the Ten Commandments in schools, public schools

02:01:40.020 --> 02:01:43.000
in Texas. And, you know, his take on it is very

02:01:43.000 --> 02:01:44.979
measured as a religious person, very religious

02:01:44.979 --> 02:01:47.600
person. He's in seminary right now. And he essentially

02:01:47.600 --> 02:01:49.659
said that you're pushing people away from Christianity

02:01:49.659 --> 02:01:52.600
by doing this. And that it's not fair that if

02:01:52.600 --> 02:01:55.300
you are not a Christian and you go to this school,

02:01:55.479 --> 02:01:58.439
you have to read the Christian rules. And what

02:01:58.439 --> 02:02:00.600
about the Buddhist rules? What about the Muslim

02:02:00.600 --> 02:02:04.000
rules? What about, you know, it's just not right.

02:02:04.220 --> 02:02:06.880
And he can talk about it in a real way. And he's

02:02:06.880 --> 02:02:09.159
also a very religious person. I'm not very familiar

02:02:09.159 --> 02:02:11.340
with him at all. He was a schoolteacher. And

02:02:11.340 --> 02:02:15.840
he was realizing that cuts to the budgets were

02:02:15.840 --> 02:02:19.880
directly affecting. vulnerable students in his

02:02:19.880 --> 02:02:22.600
class. And he pointed to this one kid that he

02:02:22.600 --> 02:02:24.779
had that was doing really well because he was

02:02:24.779 --> 02:02:27.619
getting counseling and came from a troubled background,

02:02:27.779 --> 02:02:30.100
but he was really showing progress. And then

02:02:30.100 --> 02:02:31.939
they cut off the funding, he lost his counseling,

02:02:32.020 --> 02:02:33.760
started falling apart, dropped out of school.

02:02:33.979 --> 02:02:37.119
And he was like, that is a direct result of this

02:02:37.119 --> 02:02:40.260
lack of funding for important things that he

02:02:40.260 --> 02:02:42.600
thinks directly affect people that are vulnerable.

02:02:43.020 --> 02:02:46.020
And he was coming at it from a very honest and

02:02:46.020 --> 02:02:48.220
a very moral and ethical place. And when you

02:02:48.220 --> 02:02:50.680
could talk to him, you could realize that I think

02:02:50.680 --> 02:02:53.439
he's a good man. And he has a real good chance

02:02:53.439 --> 02:02:56.380
of being like a... Is he from Texas? Yes. Yeah.

02:02:56.800 --> 02:03:00.119
He's kind of young, right? Yes. Very young. I

02:03:00.119 --> 02:03:02.039
think he's like 35 or 36 or something like that.

02:03:03.609 --> 02:03:06.310
It's also – he pointed out that there's a group

02:03:06.310 --> 02:03:09.069
of very wealthy oil people in this country –

02:03:09.069 --> 02:03:12.069
or in this state rather that want to turn Texas

02:03:12.069 --> 02:03:15.529
into a – they want to fund all the religious

02:03:15.529 --> 02:03:18.010
schools and cut the funding for the public schools.

02:03:18.470 --> 02:03:21.670
They want to turn it into a theocracy. They essentially

02:03:21.670 --> 02:03:24.569
want to turn it into like this – what you would

02:03:24.569 --> 02:03:26.810
call a Christian nationalist and they really

02:03:26.810 --> 02:03:29.430
want to push that agenda. And they're doing it

02:03:29.430 --> 02:03:30.890
with an enormous amount of money. They have an

02:03:30.890 --> 02:03:32.770
incredible amount of money and they're these

02:03:32.770 --> 02:03:35.300
– evangelical Christians, and they have these

02:03:35.300 --> 02:03:37.680
very rigid ideas about what people should be

02:03:37.680 --> 02:03:41.119
able to do in this country. Sketchy. Yeah, that's

02:03:41.119 --> 02:03:43.319
sketchy. Very sketchy. And it also goes back

02:03:43.319 --> 02:03:46.340
to money. Yeah. So even hearing that, like to

02:03:46.340 --> 02:03:49.430
run for president. Yeah. It takes so much money.

02:03:49.649 --> 02:03:52.029
Yeah. A lot of money. But if people think you

02:03:52.029 --> 02:03:54.430
could win, they might get on board. Yeah. That's

02:03:54.430 --> 02:03:56.310
where things get interesting. Yeah. If you think

02:03:56.310 --> 02:03:58.270
someone can win, how much are you willing to

02:03:58.270 --> 02:04:00.609
ignore just because this guy will get in? And

02:04:00.609 --> 02:04:02.670
then once he gets in, that's the dirty part.

02:04:02.949 --> 02:04:05.430
Once they get in, very rarely do they do what

02:04:05.430 --> 02:04:07.270
they said they were going to do. Yeah. Very rarely.

02:04:07.970 --> 02:04:10.649
Yeah. Very rarely. Well, and do you think it's

02:04:10.649 --> 02:04:13.289
because it's so hard to make change or you think

02:04:13.289 --> 02:04:14.869
once they get in, they're like, I don't care.

02:04:15.109 --> 02:04:16.310
I'm just going to do what I'm going to do. Well,

02:04:16.310 --> 02:04:18.380
I think. If you want to be really cynical, I

02:04:18.380 --> 02:04:20.659
think they say a lot of things that they don't

02:04:20.659 --> 02:04:22.699
mean in order to get elected. Yeah. They say

02:04:22.699 --> 02:04:24.520
the things that the people want to hear in order

02:04:24.520 --> 02:04:26.340
to get elected. And then I think once they get

02:04:26.340 --> 02:04:29.159
elected, then it's like the Bill Hicks bit. There's

02:04:29.159 --> 02:04:31.020
a Bill Hicks bit where he's like, I think they

02:04:31.020 --> 02:04:33.079
take you into a dark, smoky room and they show

02:04:33.079 --> 02:04:35.720
you an angle of the Kennedy assassination that

02:04:35.720 --> 02:04:37.800
you've never seen before. And then they say,

02:04:37.880 --> 02:04:40.220
any questions? And you're like, I just want to

02:04:40.220 --> 02:04:42.840
know what my agenda is. Yeah. You know, I think

02:04:42.840 --> 02:04:45.260
there's a little bit of that, too. Well, you're

02:04:45.260 --> 02:04:48.939
right. I mean, not about that specifically, but

02:04:48.939 --> 02:04:52.979
definitely when you get in, you see things that

02:04:52.979 --> 02:04:59.439
are just like, well, this is bigger. Yeah. Bigger

02:04:59.439 --> 02:05:03.579
has been happening for a long time and you're

02:05:03.579 --> 02:05:06.300
just a little tiny piece that's not going to

02:05:06.300 --> 02:05:10.819
change that. The deep state is real. And if you

02:05:10.819 --> 02:05:12.979
want a conspiracy theory that a lot of people

02:05:12.979 --> 02:05:15.640
like to dismiss. Just think about it logically.

02:05:15.880 --> 02:05:18.340
If there are a bunch of people that are in charge

02:05:18.340 --> 02:05:21.539
of enormous organizations, and these enormous

02:05:21.539 --> 02:05:24.399
organizations exist regardless of who the president

02:05:24.399 --> 02:05:27.979
is, and they are in office for 10, 20, 30, 40

02:05:27.979 --> 02:05:31.300
years, whatever it is, acquiring power, using

02:05:31.300 --> 02:05:34.960
their influence, enormous amount of support from

02:05:34.960 --> 02:05:38.000
enormous corporations, that's real. That's always

02:05:38.000 --> 02:05:39.960
been real. And you have to contend with that

02:05:39.960 --> 02:05:43.680
if you want to enact meaningful change as a politician

02:05:43.680 --> 02:05:46.279
in this country. And good luck. Yeah. Good luck

02:05:46.279 --> 02:05:50.300
fighting that battle. Yeah. And when you do get

02:05:50.300 --> 02:05:54.640
in as president, there are so many jobs that

02:05:54.640 --> 02:06:01.300
you have to fill. Yeah. Like thousands in days,

02:06:01.560 --> 02:06:04.840
weeks, months. Thousands and thousands. So you

02:06:04.840 --> 02:06:08.239
have all of these. Thousands of new employees

02:06:08.239 --> 02:06:15.039
that are ready to work. They have to be organized.

02:06:15.140 --> 02:06:17.260
Now they're organizing with the people, like

02:06:17.260 --> 02:06:18.579
you said, that are politicals that have been

02:06:18.579 --> 02:06:22.840
there. Or they're career people that have been

02:06:22.840 --> 02:06:26.180
there through it all, through different. Are

02:06:26.180 --> 02:06:28.090
they going to be there when you're gone? And

02:06:28.090 --> 02:06:29.270
they're going to be there when you're gone. And

02:06:29.270 --> 02:06:31.770
so they'll hit the brakes every time they can.

02:06:31.789 --> 02:06:34.710
They'll fucking throw a little monkey wrench

02:06:34.710 --> 02:06:38.050
into the gears, slow things down, make backdoor

02:06:38.050 --> 02:06:41.510
deals. It's just like crazy. I've talked to Tulsi

02:06:41.510 --> 02:06:43.850
about it, and she's like, it's so nuts. There's

02:06:43.850 --> 02:06:46.289
people that are in charge of these certain offices,

02:06:46.390 --> 02:06:48.930
and they just stop you from. doing what you want

02:06:48.930 --> 02:06:51.649
to do. Yeah. And then you have to try to figure

02:06:51.649 --> 02:06:53.529
out how to get around it and try to figure out

02:06:53.529 --> 02:06:55.949
how to get, and then you have to wash their back

02:06:55.949 --> 02:06:59.409
so they wash yours. Yeah. It's a lot. It's just

02:06:59.409 --> 02:07:03.609
a lot of every day trying to frigging, and I'm

02:07:03.609 --> 02:07:05.909
sure it gets frustrating and I'm sure there are

02:07:05.909 --> 02:07:08.529
days when you're like, well, I told the people

02:07:08.529 --> 02:07:10.329
I was going to do that one thing and I can't

02:07:10.329 --> 02:07:12.409
do that one thing. I can't even get people to

02:07:12.409 --> 02:07:13.890
change their mind about what they're going to

02:07:13.890 --> 02:07:16.350
eat for lunch. That's the real scary thing about

02:07:16.350 --> 02:07:19.279
AI. Said AI is going to come along and be logical

02:07:19.279 --> 02:07:24.380
and say, let us handle this. You guys aren't

02:07:24.380 --> 02:07:26.460
good at this. I think they're doing that now.

02:07:26.680 --> 02:07:29.020
Don't you think they're doing that now? All this

02:07:29.020 --> 02:07:30.779
corruption, we could put a stop to it immediately.

02:07:30.840 --> 02:07:32.539
We could weed through it. Yeah. We could make

02:07:32.539 --> 02:07:35.779
things very efficient. By the way, you don't

02:07:35.779 --> 02:07:39.319
think AI could weed out the people in Congress

02:07:39.319 --> 02:07:43.609
and wherever that have been? Of course. That

02:07:43.609 --> 02:07:46.729
have been making money on interesting. Yeah.

02:07:47.050 --> 02:07:49.850
I don't think they're doing anything illegal

02:07:49.850 --> 02:07:53.529
currently. I think it's very questionable whether

02:07:53.529 --> 02:07:55.710
or not it's an ethical thing to do. I don't think

02:07:55.710 --> 02:07:58.170
it is. But I think as far as the legality of

02:07:58.170 --> 02:08:00.949
it, it's not it's not like illegal to invest

02:08:00.949 --> 02:08:05.579
in a. No, it's not. You ever see Nancy Pelosi

02:08:05.579 --> 02:08:07.779
when she got asked about that? It's hilarious.

02:08:08.100 --> 02:08:10.520
It's so funny. They caught her off guard. And

02:08:10.520 --> 02:08:12.579
do you think? Yeah, I think they should be able

02:08:12.579 --> 02:08:15.300
to participate. And she pushes the microphone

02:08:15.300 --> 02:08:17.239
away and gets out of there. You never seen it?

02:08:17.319 --> 02:08:19.000
It's really funny. I don't think so. Maybe I

02:08:19.000 --> 02:08:20.720
have. I don't know. Jamie, pull that up. It's

02:08:20.720 --> 02:08:23.439
a fun clip. Because look, she's been running

02:08:23.439 --> 02:08:27.220
it like a G. Respect. Seriously. She's been in

02:08:27.220 --> 02:08:29.119
for a long time. She's got it down pat, man.

02:08:29.260 --> 02:08:31.180
She's got it. There's a photo of her when she

02:08:31.180 --> 02:08:33.720
was a young girl standing next to Kennedy. Yeah.

02:08:34.060 --> 02:08:36.000
I've seen that. So she's been in this game forever.

02:08:36.000 --> 02:08:38.739
Yeah. She knows what she's doing. Forever. Yeah.

02:08:39.000 --> 02:08:42.239
And you want to know who she is? Her and Chuck

02:08:42.239 --> 02:08:44.920
Schumer, when they put on the African garb and

02:08:44.920 --> 02:08:47.300
they got down on one knee for Black Lives Matter,

02:08:47.539 --> 02:08:50.119
and it turns out that the colors that they were

02:08:50.119 --> 02:08:54.399
wearing were from a specific tribe that was responsible

02:08:54.399 --> 02:08:57.899
for a lot of the slavery. They were the people

02:08:57.899 --> 02:09:00.060
that were enslaving people and then selling them.

02:09:02.100 --> 02:09:04.039
Nobody told her that. She just wanted to look

02:09:04.039 --> 02:09:06.640
cool. Nobody told her that. That's a tough one.

02:09:06.899 --> 02:09:09.500
Yeah. Make sure that's true. I'm pretty sure

02:09:09.500 --> 02:09:12.880
it is. I'm pretty sure it is. What? You didn't

02:09:12.880 --> 02:09:14.840
listen? I'm looking for the Nancy Pelosi video.

02:09:14.859 --> 02:09:18.399
Oh, sorry. Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer, when

02:09:18.399 --> 02:09:20.560
they got down on one knee with their African

02:09:20.560 --> 02:09:23.500
garb on, the garb that they are wearing is from

02:09:23.500 --> 02:09:26.279
this one particular tribe that was responsible

02:09:26.279 --> 02:09:31.039
for a lot of the slave trade. And by the way,

02:09:31.060 --> 02:09:34.100
that also speaks to how some things are just

02:09:34.100 --> 02:09:38.880
random. done by an assistant somewhere that's

02:09:38.880 --> 02:09:42.560
like, I need to have something to put on. And

02:09:42.560 --> 02:09:44.979
then now they're, now it looks like they've made

02:09:44.979 --> 02:09:47.359
a big statement and it's, you know, it's like,

02:09:47.460 --> 02:09:50.479
oh no, I didn't know. That's just kooky to do.

02:09:50.640 --> 02:09:52.659
It's just kooky to do in the first place. I mean,

02:09:52.680 --> 02:09:53.859
it's like, what are you, why are you doing that?

02:09:53.939 --> 02:09:57.020
How about just say. I feel very strongly about

02:09:57.020 --> 02:09:59.420
this particular social issue and we need, you

02:09:59.420 --> 02:10:03.619
know, less racism and we need to be more equal

02:10:03.619 --> 02:10:05.460
in this country. No, but it's about the photo

02:10:05.460 --> 02:10:08.100
op. Is that you're getting on one knee? Is that

02:10:08.100 --> 02:10:10.840
accurate? Sometimes we go to... I'm trying to

02:10:10.840 --> 02:10:12.420
figure out what they're saying about it. There's

02:10:12.420 --> 02:10:15.479
a picture, but... Okay. Yeah. People were just

02:10:15.479 --> 02:10:16.819
mad that they were wearing the stuff to begin

02:10:16.819 --> 02:10:19.779
with. I don't know. Right. It's called Kentecloth.

02:10:19.880 --> 02:10:24.659
So was the Kentecloth... Did it... Have anything

02:10:24.659 --> 02:10:27.579
to do with the people that were involved in the

02:10:27.579 --> 02:10:32.659
slave trade? Did they wear it? Because that's

02:10:32.659 --> 02:10:35.800
what I had read online. But again, who knows

02:10:35.800 --> 02:10:37.439
how much of that's real? That's the problem.

02:10:37.560 --> 02:10:40.979
You read things and it could be horseshit. Yeah.

02:10:41.180 --> 02:10:45.060
Fact check. Yes. Go back. It didn't say anything.

02:10:45.300 --> 02:10:47.479
It said fact check. Yeah, it didn't say yes.

02:10:47.560 --> 02:10:50.890
Yes. It says, yes, first word, kente cloths were

02:10:50.890 --> 02:10:52.909
historically worn by empire involved in West

02:10:52.909 --> 02:10:57.130
African slave trade. Yeah, so that's true. Well,

02:10:57.189 --> 02:11:00.270
it's funny because when Bobby and I travel internationally,

02:11:00.430 --> 02:11:04.350
and we might be somewhere where they wear specific

02:11:04.350 --> 02:11:09.029
clothing garments, right? And it looks cool,

02:11:09.050 --> 02:11:13.189
and it's like we're supposed to go to an event

02:11:13.189 --> 02:11:16.270
or a function. And I will think, oh, well, why

02:11:16.270 --> 02:11:19.729
don't we wear what? You know, they're wearing.

02:11:20.470 --> 02:11:26.890
Bobby's like, calm down. Just wear your own clothes.

02:11:27.890 --> 02:11:30.829
Don't. Don't. Just don't. Just don't. And I'm

02:11:30.829 --> 02:11:33.010
like, are you sure? Because everybody's, Cheryl,

02:11:33.310 --> 02:11:35.810
bring it down. And definitely don't take a picture

02:11:35.810 --> 02:11:38.710
with their stuff on. Oh, no. Theo Vaughn did

02:11:38.710 --> 02:11:40.649
that. He went to Qatar and took a picture wearing

02:11:40.649 --> 02:11:43.789
their outfits. Uh -oh. And everybody's like,

02:11:43.970 --> 02:11:48.039
you're bought and paid for. Settle down. Do you

02:11:48.039 --> 02:11:53.640
got the Nancy Pelosi video? No, no. There's multiple

02:11:53.640 --> 02:11:56.020
versions of it, and most of the things I'm finding

02:11:56.020 --> 02:11:58.180
are people commenting on it again. Oh. Because

02:11:58.180 --> 02:12:00.140
that's where it exists. I'm sure you'll find

02:12:00.140 --> 02:12:02.960
it. It's out there. It's fun. I'm sure there

02:12:02.960 --> 02:12:05.720
are a few. That's it. This was not it. It's not

02:12:05.720 --> 02:12:08.199
it? No, this is Yahoo Finance talking about it,

02:12:08.239 --> 02:12:10.220
and it shows 10 seconds of it, but it doesn't

02:12:10.220 --> 02:12:11.979
show her walking away like you wanted to. She

02:12:11.979 --> 02:12:13.399
was trying to find what you wanted to see. Let

02:12:13.399 --> 02:12:18.239
me hear it. Back it up a little. He's tough,

02:12:18.319 --> 02:12:19.819
man. Back it up a little so you can hear the

02:12:19.819 --> 02:12:21.300
question. ...in government should be trading.

02:12:21.340 --> 02:12:46.100
Take a listen. No, no to the second one. We have

02:12:46.100 --> 02:12:50.180
a responsibility to report on the stock, but

02:12:50.180 --> 02:12:53.560
I'm not familiar with that five -month review.

02:12:53.699 --> 02:12:56.779
But if people aren't reporting, they should be.

02:12:58.640 --> 02:13:03.680
Because this is a free market, and we have a

02:13:03.680 --> 02:13:06.020
free market economy. They should be able to participate

02:13:06.020 --> 02:13:16.000
in that. Hmm. Okay. Okay. Right. So I guess there

02:13:16.000 --> 02:13:20.640
is some law. Yeah. There is some law that they

02:13:20.640 --> 02:13:25.020
were talking about. You can't know about a decision

02:13:25.020 --> 02:13:27.500
that's going to be made and somehow have invested.

02:13:27.819 --> 02:13:29.220
Right. But there's a lot of evidence that they

02:13:29.220 --> 02:13:32.399
do. And again, right and left. Yeah. It's a lot.

02:13:32.479 --> 02:13:35.560
It's definitely not one group. Well, she's the

02:13:35.560 --> 02:13:37.619
scapegoat because she's the best at it. She's

02:13:37.619 --> 02:13:42.600
the G. She's top dog. I don't even think she's

02:13:42.600 --> 02:13:46.189
made the most money. Someone else had made more

02:13:46.189 --> 02:13:47.789
money, right? Wasn't it? She was like 10th on

02:13:47.789 --> 02:13:51.109
the list or something. Who's the top dog? They're

02:13:51.109 --> 02:13:52.750
the one throwing her under the bus. Put Nancy

02:13:52.750 --> 02:13:55.250
in front of the camera. Poor Nancy. She likes

02:13:55.250 --> 02:13:57.109
the camera. Get her out there. They're hiding.

02:13:57.289 --> 02:13:59.949
Nancy's like, ah, well. Yeah, there's some guy

02:13:59.949 --> 02:14:02.970
who's like fucking middle of North Dakota. Just

02:14:02.970 --> 02:14:05.489
taking it easy. Yeah. Just on his ranch. That

02:14:05.489 --> 02:14:09.310
guy, Dave Rouser. Whoa. Look at that, 149%. Whoa.

02:14:10.130 --> 02:14:14.020
Okay, but that's, it says stock. value, portfolio

02:14:14.020 --> 02:14:17.319
value, but it doesn't say the numbers. Yeah,

02:14:17.340 --> 02:14:19.180
well, I mean, that's... Right? You know what

02:14:19.180 --> 02:14:21.359
I mean? It's like, so if their portfolio goes

02:14:21.359 --> 02:14:24.319
up 149%, but they only have 50 grand in it, as

02:14:24.319 --> 02:14:26.819
opposed to what Nancy has in it, hers only went

02:14:26.819 --> 02:14:30.140
up 70%. Can you imagine if you went to a fucking

02:14:30.140 --> 02:14:32.319
guy and he said he can get you a 70 % return

02:14:32.319 --> 02:14:34.800
on your money, you'd be like, what's your name?

02:14:34.800 --> 02:14:36.880
How do you know that? What is your name so I

02:14:36.880 --> 02:14:40.560
can Google you, Mr. Madoff? Right, exactly. Yeah,

02:14:40.640 --> 02:14:43.039
how are you doing that? How are you making that

02:14:43.039 --> 02:14:48.220
much money? That's crazy. How about 150 %? That

02:14:48.220 --> 02:14:50.760
was like the top one. That guy's doing good.

02:14:50.960 --> 02:14:52.920
That guy's doing okay. Right. But maybe he's

02:14:52.920 --> 02:14:55.520
smart. He only invests a little bit. Just a touch.

02:14:55.899 --> 02:14:59.439
Just a little bit. Just for funsies. In AI. Yeah.

02:14:59.479 --> 02:15:02.100
I mean, if you put in 20 bucks and you come back

02:15:02.100 --> 02:15:04.119
with 150 % of 20 bucks, no one's going to get

02:15:04.119 --> 02:15:06.920
much. Do you gamble? Me? Yeah. No, but I will.

02:15:08.399 --> 02:15:12.840
You mean you're ready to start? But it's not

02:15:12.840 --> 02:15:15.279
like you love it. No, I don't gamble on cards

02:15:15.279 --> 02:15:18.319
and stuff like that. I used to gamble on fights.

02:15:18.500 --> 02:15:22.060
I used to bet on fights. But then I really decided

02:15:22.060 --> 02:15:23.539
at a certain point in time, I probably shouldn't

02:15:23.539 --> 02:15:26.180
be doing this. That was a long time ago, though.

02:15:26.239 --> 02:15:29.720
The UFC recently made it illegal. Not illegal,

02:15:29.880 --> 02:15:32.920
but they passed a rule saying that the people

02:15:32.920 --> 02:15:34.779
that work for the UFC can't gamble on the fights

02:15:34.779 --> 02:15:39.079
because there was a scandal. Involved in fixed

02:15:39.079 --> 02:15:41.260
fights where it looks like somebody took a dive

02:15:41.260 --> 02:15:43.720
for money. And then it turns out many fighters

02:15:43.720 --> 02:15:46.300
have been approached and asked to take dives.

02:15:46.319 --> 02:15:47.899
And so there's a current investigation going

02:15:47.899 --> 02:15:52.000
on. Just like basketball. Oh, yeah. The basketball

02:15:52.000 --> 02:15:56.020
thing. Yeah. I mean, it's not. Especially when

02:15:56.020 --> 02:15:58.140
money's involved. If you get gambling involved.

02:15:58.500 --> 02:16:01.079
But my thought was like I don't have any power

02:16:01.079 --> 02:16:03.680
in affecting whether or not the fight goes one

02:16:03.680 --> 02:16:05.979
way or the other. I just have insight. Right.

02:16:06.020 --> 02:16:08.420
In terms of like what I think I have a more.

02:16:10.339 --> 02:16:13.880
educated idea of what a fighter's capable of

02:16:13.880 --> 02:16:16.180
than a person who doesn't watch fights constantly.

02:16:16.659 --> 02:16:20.180
And also, in the beginning, the early days, I

02:16:20.180 --> 02:16:23.060
had a giant advantage in that I was a huge fan

02:16:23.060 --> 02:16:27.140
of these overseas organizations like Pride and

02:16:27.140 --> 02:16:30.020
Strikeforce, not Strikeforce, but Rizin. A lot

02:16:30.020 --> 02:16:32.120
of these companies were bringing fighters over

02:16:32.120 --> 02:16:34.819
and these bookmakers didn't know about these

02:16:34.819 --> 02:16:37.139
fighters. And I knew a lot about them. I'm like,

02:16:37.219 --> 02:16:40.000
this guy's going to fuck everybody up. line is.

02:16:40.139 --> 02:16:41.739
I would tell people, like, when Anderson Silva

02:16:41.739 --> 02:16:43.440
came to the UFC, I told all my friends, I said,

02:16:43.520 --> 02:16:47.479
bet the house. Bet everything on this guy. I

02:16:47.479 --> 02:16:49.379
go, this guy's going to fuck everybody up. He's

02:16:49.379 --> 02:16:50.899
going to be the champion inside of a year. I

02:16:50.899 --> 02:16:52.239
was like, there's no one going to stop him. And

02:16:52.239 --> 02:16:53.760
he did. And he was. Yeah. I was like, he's too

02:16:53.760 --> 02:16:58.899
good. But you don't want to bet on, like, football

02:16:58.899 --> 02:17:01.120
or something that you're not. You're not sort

02:17:01.120 --> 02:17:04.299
of... I would. I bet a little bit. I really want

02:17:04.299 --> 02:17:07.500
you to gamble for some reason. I'm not scared

02:17:07.500 --> 02:17:10.700
of gambling, but I do know that it ruins some

02:17:10.700 --> 02:17:13.399
people's lives. Yeah. But so do cheeseburgers.

02:17:13.559 --> 02:17:15.920
Yeah. Yeah. Some people, they ruin their life

02:17:15.920 --> 02:17:18.680
with Pop -Tarts and Mountain Dew. It's true.

02:17:19.139 --> 02:17:22.360
If it's going to be something. But it doesn't

02:17:22.360 --> 02:17:24.299
have to be, is what we're saying. Right. It's

02:17:24.299 --> 02:17:26.340
the same thing as junk food. I don't think junk

02:17:26.340 --> 02:17:28.559
food should be illegal. But I think what Bobby's

02:17:28.559 --> 02:17:31.000
doing with junk food is really important. And

02:17:31.000 --> 02:17:33.200
what he's also doing with just educating people,

02:17:33.319 --> 02:17:36.319
like, hey, like the new food pyramid. Yeah. Oh,

02:17:36.340 --> 02:17:38.700
my God. Yeah. Finally, it's aligned with all

02:17:38.700 --> 02:17:41.319
the real legitimate health experts. Yeah. Instead

02:17:41.319 --> 02:17:43.719
of this nonsense that you're supposed to mostly

02:17:43.719 --> 02:17:46.379
be eating grain like you're a fucking cow. Like,

02:17:46.379 --> 02:17:49.950
this is nuts. Which, by the way, it— You know,

02:17:49.969 --> 02:17:55.229
Bobby's job as secretary of HHS, even something

02:17:55.229 --> 02:17:59.149
like the food pyramid, which is I don't know

02:17:59.149 --> 02:18:03.569
how you can argue with it, but people will find

02:18:03.569 --> 02:18:07.950
a reason to be mad about it. Yeah. And it's no

02:18:07.950 --> 02:18:12.430
matter what he says or sometimes the president

02:18:12.430 --> 02:18:15.629
says, even if it's something great like favored

02:18:15.629 --> 02:18:20.000
nations drug prices. Right. They're saying for

02:18:20.000 --> 02:18:22.559
the first time America is not going to pay more

02:18:22.559 --> 02:18:25.379
than other countries for drugs, pharmaceutical

02:18:25.379 --> 02:18:30.180
drugs. Somehow there are people out there that

02:18:30.180 --> 02:18:33.379
would be mad about it. Yeah. They're not going

02:18:33.379 --> 02:18:36.120
to take it. Well, they're furious. And outraged.

02:18:36.159 --> 02:18:38.100
A lot of them are probably paid off. They're

02:18:38.100 --> 02:18:40.159
paid off to be. There's a lot of paid influencers.

02:18:40.639 --> 02:18:42.879
That's one thing to take into consideration when

02:18:42.879 --> 02:18:46.040
it comes to anything. Like foreign policy issues,

02:18:46.340 --> 02:18:48.840
pharmaceutical drug issues. There's a lot of

02:18:48.840 --> 02:18:50.739
people that are paid to have certain opinions.

02:18:51.340 --> 02:18:53.479
That's a fact. And get it out there. Yeah. They

02:18:53.479 --> 02:18:55.360
get it out there. And, you know, someone takes

02:18:55.360 --> 02:18:57.100
advantage of the fact that this person has a

02:18:57.100 --> 02:19:00.200
large platform. And then they say, hey, you know,

02:19:00.200 --> 02:19:04.469
this. fucking drug price thing is wrong. We're

02:19:04.469 --> 02:19:06.170
doing something terrible with pharmaceutical

02:19:06.170 --> 02:19:08.809
drugs. Too much money they have to spend. We

02:19:08.809 --> 02:19:11.090
have to make sure they're profitable. This is

02:19:11.090 --> 02:19:14.350
a crime. This is a crime to make it cheaper for

02:19:14.350 --> 02:19:16.670
everybody else. They need all the money. Do you

02:19:16.670 --> 02:19:20.229
think that influencers that are just the people

02:19:20.229 --> 02:19:23.069
that are showing you how to do an exercise or

02:19:23.069 --> 02:19:27.489
how to do your makeup, you think those guys,

02:19:27.690 --> 02:19:30.700
yeah, somehow they get involved, right? It depends

02:19:30.700 --> 02:19:33.459
on who they are and how influential they are.

02:19:33.540 --> 02:19:35.479
But I know that happened during COVID. They paid

02:19:35.479 --> 02:19:37.620
a lot of people to promote the vaccines. Yeah.

02:19:37.620 --> 02:19:39.979
They paid people. Yeah. To promote the vaccines,

02:19:40.159 --> 02:19:42.239
which is just. They paid people. That's crazy.

02:19:42.340 --> 02:19:44.139
Like, if the medicine's good, you shouldn't have

02:19:44.139 --> 02:19:46.159
to pay people to promote it. Yeah. When was the

02:19:46.159 --> 02:19:49.000
last time you saw an influencer getting paid

02:19:49.000 --> 02:19:51.540
to promote penicillin? Never. Fucking never.

02:19:51.659 --> 02:19:54.639
Why? Because it works. It's good. You don't have

02:19:54.639 --> 02:19:57.260
to do that. Yeah. If you need it, you should

02:19:57.260 --> 02:19:58.940
go to the doctor and get penicillin. It's like

02:19:58.940 --> 02:20:02.899
tried and proven medication. That was a weird.

02:20:02.979 --> 02:20:07.860
It's a weird time. Weird. Super weird time. But

02:20:07.860 --> 02:20:11.260
it opened up a lot of people's eyes and, you

02:20:11.260 --> 02:20:13.799
know, air quotes, red pilled a lot of people.

02:20:13.860 --> 02:20:17.719
I hear that term a lot. Yeah. Is there a term

02:20:17.719 --> 02:20:20.840
black pilled? Yes. Oh, never saw it. Oh, you

02:20:20.840 --> 02:20:23.079
never saw The Matrix? No, but I've seen him.

02:20:23.079 --> 02:20:25.440
You're an actor. I've seen him like going backwards

02:20:25.440 --> 02:20:28.739
in the bullet. It's like, okay, I get it. I got

02:20:28.739 --> 02:20:32.700
the thing. Oh, wait. So red pill. So Morpheus

02:20:32.700 --> 02:20:35.780
presents Neo with. Is that Keanu Reeves? Yes.

02:20:35.959 --> 02:20:40.540
Okay. Well, Morpheus is Lawrence Fishburne. Lawrence

02:20:40.540 --> 02:20:43.180
Fishburne presents Keanu Reeves with two pills.

02:20:43.299 --> 02:20:46.579
Okay. One of them. Is the blue pill. If he takes

02:20:46.579 --> 02:20:48.920
his blue pill, he stays in the matrix and he

02:20:48.920 --> 02:20:51.680
has no knowledge of what reality is all about.

02:20:51.920 --> 02:20:53.959
If he takes the red pill, the red pill is reality

02:20:53.959 --> 02:20:56.639
and he gets to see. So he takes the red pill.

02:20:57.219 --> 02:20:59.940
The red pill is reality. And so there's a lot

02:20:59.940 --> 02:21:02.299
of people that took that blue pill and, you know,

02:21:02.299 --> 02:21:06.139
and they can't tell you what a woman is. That's

02:21:06.139 --> 02:21:09.420
an interesting conversation when you hear that.

02:21:09.540 --> 02:21:11.739
A great example of someone who took the blue

02:21:11.739 --> 02:21:14.629
pill. When you just say, like in these congressional

02:21:14.629 --> 02:21:16.790
hearings, like Josh Howley or these people say,

02:21:16.909 --> 02:21:22.030
what is a woman? Someone who identifies as a

02:21:22.030 --> 02:21:23.969
woman. Okay, what are they identifying as? And

02:21:23.969 --> 02:21:26.489
it's like this weird circular logic and they

02:21:26.489 --> 02:21:28.049
just keep going and they don't have anything.

02:21:28.329 --> 02:21:32.469
Can men menstruate? Can men get pregnant? Yes,

02:21:32.549 --> 02:21:34.930
some men can get pregnant. Yes, some men can

02:21:34.930 --> 02:21:39.819
have babies. Yes, some men menstruate. Do you

02:21:39.819 --> 02:21:42.239
have a PhD? Are you really a teacher? This is

02:21:42.239 --> 02:21:45.680
crazy. It is. But that's blue pill. They took

02:21:45.680 --> 02:21:47.700
the blue pill. Is there such thing as a black

02:21:47.700 --> 02:21:49.520
pill? Yes. What is the black pill? That's people

02:21:49.520 --> 02:21:51.959
who think we're doomed and we're fucked and everything's,

02:21:51.959 --> 02:21:55.120
they think it's all pedophiles and Satanists

02:21:55.120 --> 02:21:56.899
are running the government. And then the white

02:21:56.899 --> 02:21:58.940
pill is people who think everything's going to

02:21:58.940 --> 02:22:04.479
be great. Oh. Can I get the white one? Yeah,

02:22:04.540 --> 02:22:05.799
the white pill would be a good thing to take,

02:22:05.840 --> 02:22:08.399
but I don't think it's accurate. I think you

02:22:08.399 --> 02:22:10.819
want a gray pill. If they just have a gray pill

02:22:10.819 --> 02:22:12.840
that gets you like, hey, there probably are a

02:22:12.840 --> 02:22:15.379
bunch of Satanists and pedophiles in positions

02:22:15.379 --> 02:22:17.780
of high power. And then there's also probably

02:22:17.780 --> 02:22:20.260
a real good chance that we'll pull through this

02:22:20.260 --> 02:22:23.180
and we'll be better than we've ever been before.

02:22:23.299 --> 02:22:27.379
That's possible. There's a lot of exciting possibility

02:22:27.379 --> 02:22:30.940
about the future of human beings. And I think.

02:22:31.579 --> 02:22:33.399
The good thing and the bad thing about the internet

02:22:33.399 --> 02:22:35.799
is the free distribution of information. There's

02:22:35.799 --> 02:22:38.120
a good thing about it that I try to focus on

02:22:38.120 --> 02:22:40.260
is that more people have an understanding of

02:22:40.260 --> 02:22:42.340
how things are really working than ever before.

02:22:42.520 --> 02:22:45.450
Yeah. Like this Epstein file thing. Right. That

02:22:45.450 --> 02:22:47.510
was a big eye opener for a lot of people. When

02:22:47.510 --> 02:22:51.430
you see how many people after 2008, after he

02:22:51.430 --> 02:22:53.790
was arrested, after he went to jail, were actively

02:22:53.790 --> 02:22:56.950
taking money from him. MIT took money from him

02:22:56.950 --> 02:22:59.010
and tried to hide it and said to make sure that

02:22:59.010 --> 02:23:01.629
any any donations from Jeffrey are listed as

02:23:01.629 --> 02:23:04.549
anonymous. You find out like people are like

02:23:04.549 --> 02:23:06.569
they refer to him as Voldemort. Like you couldn't

02:23:06.569 --> 02:23:09.579
say his name. Wow. They there was. A lot of people

02:23:09.579 --> 02:23:12.120
that met with him and did business with him and

02:23:12.120 --> 02:23:16.020
traveled with him after he was arrested, after

02:23:16.020 --> 02:23:20.079
he went to jail. Do you spend a lot of time reading

02:23:20.079 --> 02:23:24.420
them? No, I try not to. I try to have experts

02:23:24.420 --> 02:23:28.500
come on. I try to read. You can't change it.

02:23:28.559 --> 02:23:30.659
Yeah. And it'll fuck with your head. Yeah, it's

02:23:30.659 --> 02:23:33.079
toxic. You will really get. It'll stick with

02:23:33.079 --> 02:23:37.860
your. And I know I've tried not to. Yeah. I haven't

02:23:37.860 --> 02:23:41.360
read any of them. I do see things on the news

02:23:41.360 --> 02:23:44.059
and I'm not saying, oh, if I don't hear it, that

02:23:44.059 --> 02:23:47.180
means it didn't happen. But it's just it is such

02:23:47.180 --> 02:23:51.579
a toxic situation that I think it would be hard

02:23:51.579 --> 02:23:54.840
to. It seems very dark. Very dark. Because it

02:23:54.840 --> 02:24:00.659
seems like it was this bizarre black male influence

02:24:00.659 --> 02:24:05.610
thing that was going on for a long time. A long

02:24:05.610 --> 02:24:09.870
time. Through different administrations. That's

02:24:09.870 --> 02:24:15.909
what's so unbelievable about it. How long it

02:24:15.909 --> 02:24:18.770
was going on. I'm in the files for not going.

02:24:19.450 --> 02:24:22.250
Huh? Yeah, I'm in the files for not going. Jeffrey

02:24:22.250 --> 02:24:24.510
Epstein was trying to meet with me. Oh, I did

02:24:24.510 --> 02:24:27.489
see that. Yeah, and I was like, what? No, thanks.

02:24:27.870 --> 02:24:30.809
Yeah. Aren't you glad? Yeah, but I would have

02:24:30.809 --> 02:24:32.569
never went anyway. It's like it's not even a

02:24:32.569 --> 02:24:34.030
possibility that I would have ever went, especially

02:24:34.030 --> 02:24:36.790
after I Googled them. I was like, what the fuck

02:24:36.790 --> 02:24:39.389
are you talking about? This was like 2017. One

02:24:39.389 --> 02:24:40.930
of my guests was trying to get me to meet him.

02:24:41.250 --> 02:24:43.670
I was like, bitch, are you high? Like, what the

02:24:43.670 --> 02:24:46.229
fuck are you talking about? For what reason would

02:24:46.229 --> 02:24:49.879
you? What what would be if I was a guy who is

02:24:49.879 --> 02:24:52.559
like sucking up to the rich and powerful, if

02:24:52.559 --> 02:24:54.180
I was really interested in hanging out with rich

02:24:54.180 --> 02:24:57.879
and powerful people? You know, it's crazy. It's

02:24:57.879 --> 02:25:01.260
so that's so crazy. But, yeah, some people, some

02:25:01.260 --> 02:25:04.340
people get intoxicated by being in a circle of

02:25:04.340 --> 02:25:06.520
rich and powerful people, even if they're not

02:25:06.520 --> 02:25:09.879
like they don't even have any ambitions of being

02:25:09.879 --> 02:25:12.360
one of those people. They just want to be around

02:25:12.360 --> 02:25:15.200
them. They want to be around. Nobel Prize winners

02:25:15.200 --> 02:25:18.500
and – because this guy was – what he was doing

02:25:18.500 --> 02:25:21.600
was very clever in that he was getting all of

02:25:21.600 --> 02:25:25.399
these very powerful and very respected people

02:25:25.399 --> 02:25:27.459
together. Yeah. And you would figure like, oh,

02:25:27.500 --> 02:25:29.360
it's safe. If that guy's there, if that lady's

02:25:29.360 --> 02:25:31.159
there. Clinton's here. This is fine. Clinton's

02:25:31.159 --> 02:25:33.340
here. How could this be bad? Yeah. Look, it's

02:25:33.340 --> 02:25:35.520
Steven Pinker. How could this be bad? Yeah. He's

02:25:35.520 --> 02:25:39.340
a genius. And so you would go – I would imagine

02:25:39.340 --> 02:25:41.979
you would go to these – because I – like there's

02:25:41.979 --> 02:25:44.690
people that went to these – Like he had parties

02:25:44.690 --> 02:25:46.909
in New York, like he brought in celebrities and

02:25:46.909 --> 02:25:49.909
comedians. Didn't Louis Black get invited to

02:25:49.909 --> 02:25:51.430
one of those? I think he's talked about it. I

02:25:51.430 --> 02:25:53.989
know Chelsea Handler went to one of them. It's

02:25:53.989 --> 02:25:56.469
like he would bring all these people in and he'd

02:25:56.469 --> 02:25:58.969
like to be around famous people and entertainers

02:25:58.969 --> 02:26:03.750
and a lot of intellectuals and professors. Noam

02:26:03.750 --> 02:26:07.430
Chomsky was famously deeply involved. So it's

02:26:07.430 --> 02:26:11.409
like you would go, I guess, to these places and

02:26:11.409 --> 02:26:14.180
that was how he would. to convince everybody

02:26:14.180 --> 02:26:16.020
that everything is going to be fine. Like, have

02:26:16.020 --> 02:26:17.540
you ever been invited to a party and someone

02:26:17.540 --> 02:26:18.799
will tell you, hey, you should go to this party.

02:26:19.100 --> 02:26:20.780
Brad Pitt's going to be there. Like, they'll

02:26:20.780 --> 02:26:22.840
tell you that to try to get you to go. Right.

02:26:22.899 --> 02:26:24.340
They'll tell you about the famous people that

02:26:24.340 --> 02:26:26.340
are going to be there. Like, oh. Oh, I don't

02:26:26.340 --> 02:26:28.600
know. I should go. Oh, I didn't know. I didn't

02:26:28.600 --> 02:26:33.319
know. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. It is weird.

02:26:33.420 --> 02:26:37.360
Some people are really driven by that, really

02:26:37.360 --> 02:26:42.090
love the... Parties and the invitations. And

02:26:42.090 --> 02:26:45.770
blindly ambitious. They're willing to put aside

02:26:45.770 --> 02:26:50.930
all the possibilities of what could be awful

02:26:50.930 --> 02:26:53.469
about these people and get together with them

02:26:53.469 --> 02:26:57.090
without even a cursory Google search as to who

02:26:57.090 --> 02:26:58.049
you're hanging out with. You can't have your

02:26:58.049 --> 02:27:00.129
assistant Google something. How about you just

02:27:00.129 --> 02:27:04.229
do it? It doesn't take long. Hey, look what I

02:27:04.229 --> 02:27:06.969
just found out. This is kind of crazy. Yeah.

02:27:07.149 --> 02:27:11.110
Yeah. Yeah. It's just – but it's – what's more

02:27:11.110 --> 02:27:14.829
bizarre is that there's probably in this – I

02:27:14.829 --> 02:27:17.889
talked to Mike Benz about this. He was like explaining

02:27:17.889 --> 02:27:20.790
how this guy rose to prominence and how he got

02:27:20.790 --> 02:27:23.709
this kind of influence that he had. And he was

02:27:23.709 --> 02:27:24.870
like there's probably a bunch of those going

02:27:24.870 --> 02:27:27.629
on right now that we don't know about. What people

02:27:27.629 --> 02:27:29.969
that are – Like that. Like a same sort of Jeffrey

02:27:29.969 --> 02:27:33.350
Epstein type situation. Just someone else and

02:27:33.350 --> 02:27:35.090
doing it somewhere else. They just haven't been

02:27:35.090 --> 02:27:38.090
caught yet. Yeah. Like if he didn't get arrested,

02:27:38.309 --> 02:27:41.309
let's think about this. Yeah. Because his particular

02:27:41.309 --> 02:27:44.149
perversion, the darkness of it, was that he was

02:27:44.149 --> 02:27:46.110
into underage girls. He was into young girls.

02:27:46.450 --> 02:27:49.010
Imagine if he wasn't. What if he was only into

02:27:49.010 --> 02:27:50.950
girls that are in their 30s? Like you would have

02:27:50.950 --> 02:27:52.629
never heard anything about it. What if he just

02:27:52.629 --> 02:27:57.649
hired these – adult ladies to come to these parties

02:27:57.649 --> 02:27:59.950
that were already sex workers. Would you have

02:27:59.950 --> 02:28:02.709
heard anything about this? And that's the thing.

02:28:02.750 --> 02:28:04.909
Is that happening right now? Right. Did you hear

02:28:04.909 --> 02:28:07.770
about how this started in 2005? I think this

02:28:07.770 --> 02:28:11.450
is accurate. I'm glad you're saying that. This

02:28:11.450 --> 02:28:14.350
is crazy. Two girls fighting. So it started between

02:28:14.350 --> 02:28:17.620
a fight. between two teenage girls at Royal Palm

02:28:17.620 --> 02:28:19.959
Beach High School in Florida. Here are the details

02:28:19.959 --> 02:28:21.340
of how the event triggered the investigation.

02:28:21.760 --> 02:28:25.059
Early 2005, two girls at Royal Palm Beach High

02:28:25.059 --> 02:28:27.120
School got into a fight during which one girl

02:28:27.120 --> 02:28:29.420
repeatedly called the other girl a prostitute

02:28:29.420 --> 02:29:00.950
or hooker. Wow. Wow. That's intuitive. That was

02:29:00.950 --> 02:29:02.530
the first arrest. And now listen to this. It

02:29:02.530 --> 02:29:06.829
says the Royal Palm Beach High was identified

02:29:06.829 --> 02:29:09.649
as a focal point for recruitment where, according

02:29:09.649 --> 02:29:13.389
to investigations, at least 15 students were

02:29:13.389 --> 02:29:16.750
lured into Epstein's Palm Beach home. Holy shit.

02:29:16.809 --> 02:29:19.690
That's so crazy. That's in 2005. Imagine if those

02:29:19.690 --> 02:29:22.370
girls didn't get in that fight. Imagine if that

02:29:22.370 --> 02:29:26.090
didn't happen. Yeah. It's dark. It's dark. Yeah.

02:29:26.190 --> 02:29:29.030
But if that guy was not into that, if he was

02:29:29.030 --> 02:29:31.450
not into high school girls. Right. Like if he

02:29:31.450 --> 02:29:34.450
was just into grown women who were sex workers

02:29:34.450 --> 02:29:37.629
and he ran the same operation exactly the same

02:29:37.629 --> 02:29:40.010
way, it could probably go on to this day. Yeah.

02:29:40.090 --> 02:29:41.850
And if everybody kept their fucking mouth shut,

02:29:41.950 --> 02:29:44.809
if all these guys, you know. Yeah. I mean, look

02:29:44.809 --> 02:29:47.969
at some people that are in there. There was nothing

02:29:47.969 --> 02:29:52.120
going on. Oh. FBI concluded Jeffrey Epstein wasn't

02:29:52.120 --> 02:29:54.299
running a sex trafficking ring for powerful men

02:29:54.299 --> 02:29:56.879
file show. Oh, there you go. Oh, there you go.

02:29:56.879 --> 02:29:59.459
Who says that? What's that source? It's going

02:29:59.459 --> 02:30:01.180
around. I just found the place that was showing

02:30:01.180 --> 02:30:02.399
the headline. It was going around the Internet.

02:30:02.920 --> 02:30:05.940
Oh, today? Yeah, the AP. It's the AP reporting

02:30:05.940 --> 02:30:10.340
it. Today. Oh, I thought that was from 2005.

02:30:11.260 --> 02:30:14.760
This is like the FBI stating it today. That's

02:30:14.760 --> 02:30:18.180
the gaslightiest gaslighting shit I've ever heard

02:30:18.180 --> 02:30:20.440
in my life. Whoa. What do they think is going

02:30:20.440 --> 02:30:24.020
on? Just a bunch of fun? A bunch of guys hanging

02:30:24.020 --> 02:30:27.760
out? That is... Being fellas? Having cocktails?

02:30:27.860 --> 02:30:28.979
Talking about science? They're still looking

02:30:28.979 --> 02:30:30.899
into it, but they don't have any evidence. Oh,

02:30:31.000 --> 02:30:33.520
look into it. Maybe you should get Eddie Bravo

02:30:33.520 --> 02:30:37.239
in the case. I'm looking into it. That is crazy.

02:30:37.739 --> 02:30:41.680
Look into it. Oh, it's so crazy. It's, it's,

02:30:41.680 --> 02:30:44.209
but... There's probably a lot of that that's

02:30:44.209 --> 02:30:47.290
gone on forever. And it's also probably a way

02:30:47.290 --> 02:30:50.309
that they can secure business deals and make

02:30:50.309 --> 02:30:52.350
sure that people do things they want to do. They

02:30:52.350 --> 02:30:54.030
have a little something over them. They do a

02:30:54.030 --> 02:30:57.989
little of this, do a little of that. For sure.

02:30:58.530 --> 02:31:02.409
This is what, this is what, yeah. I mean, that's

02:31:02.409 --> 02:31:07.450
what Epstein was all about, was manipulating

02:31:07.450 --> 02:31:12.139
people. you know, holding it over their head

02:31:12.139 --> 02:31:15.500
and getting them to do something. Allegedly.

02:31:16.260 --> 02:31:18.200
Allegedly. Allegedly. It certainly seems like

02:31:18.200 --> 02:31:20.200
that. It certainly seems like that was a big

02:31:20.200 --> 02:31:22.700
part of it. I mean, is it possible that people

02:31:22.700 --> 02:31:25.819
didn't know what was going on? Maybe initially.

02:31:26.219 --> 02:31:28.059
Yeah. You know, if someone got lured in like

02:31:28.059 --> 02:31:29.739
they tried to lure me in and they didn't do a

02:31:29.739 --> 02:31:31.579
Google search and also they're meeting with this

02:31:31.579 --> 02:31:34.399
eccentric billionaire supposedly who's just not

02:31:34.399 --> 02:31:37.280
politically correct. Oh, he's a wild guy. Which,

02:31:37.280 --> 02:31:40.649
by the way, who cares? People care. People care.

02:31:41.090 --> 02:31:43.149
Weirdly. People care about billionaires. They

02:31:43.149 --> 02:31:45.649
want to meet. They want to meet. They want access.

02:31:45.930 --> 02:31:47.229
Access. They think somehow or another it's going

02:31:47.229 --> 02:31:48.569
to rub off on them and they're going to be rich

02:31:48.569 --> 02:31:52.770
too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, listen, I see

02:31:52.770 --> 02:31:55.170
that. Well, you see it with celebrities, of course.

02:31:55.229 --> 02:31:58.469
Sure. I mean, everybody wants to be around. Mm

02:31:58.469 --> 02:32:02.549
-hmm. That I see it with Bobby. People want to

02:32:02.549 --> 02:32:06.540
be around him. They want to. They want to tell

02:32:06.540 --> 02:32:08.260
them something. They want to talk to them. And

02:32:08.260 --> 02:32:11.440
it's like, wow, it's intense. It gets really

02:32:11.440 --> 02:32:16.600
weird, yeah. It's real weird. I think it's a

02:32:16.600 --> 02:32:20.559
natural human inclination. I think it goes back

02:32:20.559 --> 02:32:22.579
to the tribal days. You want to be around the

02:32:22.579 --> 02:32:26.540
chief of the tribe. I just think it's normal

02:32:26.540 --> 02:32:30.559
primate behavior. Yeah, and it makes sense that

02:32:30.559 --> 02:32:33.639
you want to be around people that sort of lift

02:32:33.639 --> 02:32:38.629
you up. give you ideas, show you something that...

02:32:39.099 --> 02:32:42.500
Sure. Wouldn't otherwise see that. In the best

02:32:42.500 --> 02:32:44.559
case scenario. In the best case scenario. In

02:32:44.559 --> 02:32:46.120
the best case scenario, you want to be around

02:32:46.120 --> 02:32:47.659
good people because you want to be around a good

02:32:47.659 --> 02:32:49.219
person. If you meet someone who's really cool,

02:32:49.340 --> 02:32:51.040
like, wow, that guy's really cool. I love being

02:32:51.040 --> 02:32:53.319
around that person. Everybody loves him. Why

02:32:53.319 --> 02:32:54.719
does everybody love him? Look at his behavior.

02:32:54.899 --> 02:32:56.979
He's such a nice guy. Yeah. Like, and then, you

02:32:56.979 --> 02:32:59.479
know, that's good. Rubs off on everybody. Yeah.

02:32:59.500 --> 02:33:01.719
But also, for some people, it's just like they

02:33:01.719 --> 02:33:04.040
see someone who's very important and they want

02:33:04.040 --> 02:33:05.579
to be important and they think being next to

02:33:05.579 --> 02:33:07.959
that person makes them important. Just being

02:33:07.959 --> 02:33:10.120
next to them. them is going to do something for

02:33:10.120 --> 02:33:12.500
them. Well, that's why people name drop. Right?

02:33:12.719 --> 02:33:15.579
Name dropping might be the worst strategy that's

02:33:15.579 --> 02:33:17.940
ever been conceived that doesn't work, and yet

02:33:17.940 --> 02:33:20.319
people do it all the time. Like, it never works.

02:33:20.500 --> 02:33:22.799
Nobody ever says, wow, it was over at Leonardo

02:33:22.799 --> 02:33:24.680
DiCaprio's house the other day. You know, Leo

02:33:24.680 --> 02:33:27.159
and I are close. Nobody goes, wow, you're so

02:33:27.159 --> 02:33:30.000
cool. You're friends with Leo. No, they go, listen

02:33:30.000 --> 02:33:32.479
to this motherfucker name dropping. Right? It's

02:33:32.479 --> 02:33:35.020
weird. It's weird, but people still do it. Yeah.

02:33:35.200 --> 02:33:38.010
It's like... I was just telling my niece. Oh,

02:33:39.270 --> 02:33:41.450
you just name dropped your niece. I didn't say

02:33:41.450 --> 02:33:45.389
your name. But I was saying like a woman who

02:33:45.389 --> 02:33:48.170
has a bumper sticker that says classy lady. I

02:33:48.170 --> 02:33:50.829
don't think you are. Yeah. It's like if you have

02:33:50.829 --> 02:33:56.430
to tell people. That's a good example. It's like,

02:33:56.489 --> 02:33:58.809
I don't think so. Classy ladies don't have bumper

02:33:58.809 --> 02:34:01.510
stickers, first of all. What are you doing in

02:34:01.510 --> 02:34:04.629
your car? What are you doing to your car, your

02:34:04.629 --> 02:34:07.350
poor car? Classy lady's hilarious. It's hard

02:34:07.350 --> 02:34:10.610
for you to go out. Can you go out? It's a struggle.

02:34:10.969 --> 02:34:15.350
You are so famous that there's fame, you know,

02:34:15.389 --> 02:34:18.489
where some people come up and go, oh, hi, I like

02:34:18.489 --> 02:34:20.530
the thing that you did or the thing that you

02:34:20.530 --> 02:34:23.209
do. And then there's the super famous where everybody

02:34:23.209 --> 02:34:27.840
knows you and it's probably. It's got to keep

02:34:27.840 --> 02:34:30.360
you from actually doing normal things, I would

02:34:30.360 --> 02:34:32.899
think. It's definitely a problem. Yeah, it gets

02:34:32.899 --> 02:34:34.879
in the way. But that's what you sign up for.

02:34:35.399 --> 02:34:37.360
Yeah. You know, I didn't necessarily sign up

02:34:37.360 --> 02:34:40.110
for it, but it became. What it is. Like when

02:34:40.110 --> 02:34:42.250
I first started doing this podcast, I never would

02:34:42.250 --> 02:34:44.709
have, never would have, if someone told me it

02:34:44.709 --> 02:34:46.469
was going to be what it was, what it became,

02:34:46.670 --> 02:34:49.610
I might go. Not ready for that. I don't know

02:34:49.610 --> 02:34:51.549
if I want to do that. That's a lot. I like to

02:34:51.549 --> 02:34:54.629
just be like a B -list sort of weird guy on the

02:34:54.629 --> 02:34:56.649
outside. It's like kind of keeps working, but

02:34:56.649 --> 02:35:02.350
that's it. You're the first person that I've

02:35:02.350 --> 02:35:04.309
ever talked to that's like, yeah, I just want

02:35:04.309 --> 02:35:06.389
to be B -list. Oh, B -list is sweet. It's good.

02:35:06.549 --> 02:35:08.389
It's a sweet spot. Nobody knows who you are.

02:35:08.430 --> 02:35:10.430
Nobody cares. You can go to the movies. Oh, yeah.

02:35:10.469 --> 02:35:12.170
Nobody cares. If they see you, they say hi. That's

02:35:12.170 --> 02:35:13.969
it. Yeah, that's it. Oh, hey, aren't you that

02:35:13.969 --> 02:35:16.389
guy that was on that show? Yeah, hi. That's it.

02:35:16.489 --> 02:35:19.389
Nice. Yeah. Nice. That's nice. Perfect. Yeah.

02:35:19.729 --> 02:35:22.510
You can go to Disney World. Yeah. Yeah. You get

02:35:22.510 --> 02:35:24.670
to a certain level, you can't go anywhere. No.

02:35:24.709 --> 02:35:29.840
That's where, you know, you fucked up. Well,

02:35:29.860 --> 02:35:32.139
don't run for president, by the way. No chance.

02:35:32.440 --> 02:35:35.200
Not a chance in hell. No, never. Never. Not a

02:35:35.200 --> 02:35:37.540
chance in hell. Zero political aspirations. Don't

02:35:37.540 --> 02:35:39.840
listen to me. If I run, don't vote for me. Don't

02:35:39.840 --> 02:35:42.000
do it. I don't want that job. I wouldn't be good

02:35:42.000 --> 02:35:45.659
at it. I'm not designed for it. No. That's a

02:35:45.659 --> 02:35:48.620
tough job. It's a crazy job that made sense when

02:35:48.620 --> 02:35:50.899
there was 150 people and they all had muskets.

02:35:51.340 --> 02:35:54.969
It doesn't make any sense. That one alpha should

02:35:54.969 --> 02:35:59.569
be involved in controlling 350 million people.

02:36:00.229 --> 02:36:04.969
Yeah. That's nuts. That's a crazy job. It's all

02:36:04.969 --> 02:36:08.690
a crazy setup. And by the way, elections are.

02:36:09.829 --> 02:36:14.389
Hell. The way they're set up is crazy. Yeah.

02:36:14.549 --> 02:36:17.690
If you, when you're in it and you start seeing,

02:36:17.950 --> 02:36:21.979
this is what you have to do. Especially running

02:36:21.979 --> 02:36:23.440
as an independent. This is what you have to do

02:36:23.440 --> 02:36:25.540
for each state. It's different for each state.

02:36:25.700 --> 02:36:28.659
Yeah. Just like who made up these rules? People

02:36:28.659 --> 02:36:30.360
that were trying to make sure that it was really

02:36:30.360 --> 02:36:32.860
hard to win. Yeah. To make sure an independent.

02:36:33.059 --> 02:36:35.299
There's a there's a thing where people are not

02:36:35.299 --> 02:36:38.059
allowed to question that. If you question you

02:36:38.059 --> 02:36:40.739
call the fool or you call the conspiracy theorist

02:36:40.739 --> 02:36:43.479
like, hey, I think there's some election fraud.

02:36:44.540 --> 02:36:46.540
How much do you think there is? Like when people

02:36:46.540 --> 02:36:48.940
say, I don't think the election in 2020 was rigged,

02:36:48.940 --> 02:36:50.959
I go, well, I don't have any evidence. I don't

02:36:50.959 --> 02:36:55.940
know. But if I had to ask you what percentage

02:36:55.940 --> 02:37:00.500
of election fraud is real, I don't think you

02:37:00.500 --> 02:37:03.579
would say zero. Yeah. I don't think anybody would

02:37:03.579 --> 02:37:06.209
say zero. Well, I mean. Right? Do you think,

02:37:06.270 --> 02:37:08.090
like, there's a woman in California that recently

02:37:08.090 --> 02:37:11.030
registered her dog and used a mail -in ballot

02:37:11.030 --> 02:37:13.870
and voted for her dog to expose the fact that

02:37:13.870 --> 02:37:16.549
you could do this. And, you know, California

02:37:16.549 --> 02:37:20.649
famously doesn't allow you to show ID when you

02:37:20.649 --> 02:37:23.690
vote, which is crazy. That's pretty crazy. That's

02:37:23.690 --> 02:37:26.110
crazy. Like, you're not allowed to? Not only

02:37:26.110 --> 02:37:27.889
are you not asking, you're not allowed to. You're

02:37:27.889 --> 02:37:30.110
not allowed to show it. That seems like, if I

02:37:30.110 --> 02:37:33.030
was being super charitable, I can't find a reason

02:37:33.030 --> 02:37:36.629
why that makes sense. And I've never seen Kamala

02:37:36.629 --> 02:37:39.190
explain that. Like people in poor places, they

02:37:39.190 --> 02:37:40.670
can't go to Kinko's and they can't get their

02:37:40.670 --> 02:37:44.229
ID. I haven't seen that. Something to see. Fucking

02:37:44.229 --> 02:37:48.010
nuts. It's like the most rambly, cockeyed answer

02:37:48.010 --> 02:37:50.690
for like it doesn't. There's no answer that makes

02:37:50.690 --> 02:37:52.870
any sense. Like why shouldn't you have voter

02:37:52.870 --> 02:37:57.030
ID? Yeah. Unless you're trying to cheat. So then

02:37:57.030 --> 02:37:59.409
the question is, OK, let's say they're not trying

02:37:59.409 --> 02:38:01.350
to cheat. They just want to make it easy for

02:38:01.350 --> 02:38:03.930
people that don't have ID to vote. How much of

02:38:03.930 --> 02:38:05.850
those people are voting that shouldn't be voting?

02:38:05.950 --> 02:38:09.569
It's not zero. It's not zero. So how much of

02:38:09.569 --> 02:38:12.610
an effect did it have on the election? I don't

02:38:12.610 --> 02:38:16.069
know. But here's the thing, Democrats. If that's

02:38:16.069 --> 02:38:20.790
a fact and it happened in 2020 and maybe it happened

02:38:20.790 --> 02:38:23.270
in 2024. We don't know. Maybe it'll happen again

02:38:23.270 --> 02:38:25.510
in 2028. Maybe the Republicans will lock it down.

02:38:25.590 --> 02:38:27.329
Right. And they'll rig the elections. Do you

02:38:27.329 --> 02:38:29.229
think that's OK? I don't think that's OK. Right.

02:38:29.629 --> 02:38:34.040
Well, by the way, remember. Bush v. Gore. Oh,

02:38:34.120 --> 02:38:36.219
yeah. I mean, that's when things turned for me

02:38:36.219 --> 02:38:38.659
where I was like, mm -mm, I'm out. That was shady.

02:38:38.920 --> 02:38:41.799
It was so shady and it was so dramatic. Took

02:38:41.799 --> 02:38:43.440
like a couple weeks to figure out who the president

02:38:43.440 --> 02:38:46.899
was. Remember that? I do. Yeah. I do. Do you

02:38:46.899 --> 02:38:49.040
remember Hacking Democracy, the documentary on

02:38:49.040 --> 02:38:52.239
HBO? No. Ooh, it was really good because it was

02:38:52.239 --> 02:38:54.719
all about the Diebold systems and they showed

02:38:54.719 --> 02:38:57.700
in this documentary that these systems have third

02:38:57.700 --> 02:39:00.690
-party input. So the idea was that these systems

02:39:00.690 --> 02:39:03.649
were owned by some large contributor to the Republican

02:39:03.649 --> 02:39:06.489
Party. And these machines that were in place

02:39:06.489 --> 02:39:09.450
supposedly on this show, if I remember correctly,

02:39:09.690 --> 02:39:12.930
they showed that they can affect the election.

02:39:13.129 --> 02:39:15.370
They showed they could change the numbers with

02:39:15.370 --> 02:39:17.770
third -party input. And they did it on the show.

02:39:18.030 --> 02:39:21.889
So at that time, that was supposed to be evidence

02:39:21.889 --> 02:39:24.030
that the Republicans were capable of rigging

02:39:24.030 --> 02:39:25.569
the election. And so everyone was supposed to

02:39:25.569 --> 02:39:27.930
be outraged. Oh, my God, they've hijacked our

02:39:27.930 --> 02:39:30.750
election process and stolen it. But then in 2020,

02:39:31.030 --> 02:39:34.149
because it was Trump. And he's such a polarizing

02:39:34.149 --> 02:39:36.250
character that when he said that the election

02:39:36.250 --> 02:39:38.389
was stolen, everybody was like, this is an affront

02:39:38.389 --> 02:39:40.850
to our democracy. Never has a president said

02:39:40.850 --> 02:39:43.350
that the elections weren't fair. That's not even

02:39:43.350 --> 02:39:46.170
true because Hillary did it in 2016. She said

02:39:46.170 --> 02:39:48.350
that he wasn't the rightful president, that Russia

02:39:48.350 --> 02:39:51.569
helped him win. I mean, it's been going on, I

02:39:51.569 --> 02:39:58.409
think, almost every election. And just like Gore

02:39:58.409 --> 02:40:01.729
v. Bush, it was like people were so outraged.

02:40:02.649 --> 02:40:04.530
You know, we're not going to take this. This

02:40:04.530 --> 02:40:08.750
cannot be how our elections are held. And, you

02:40:08.750 --> 02:40:11.030
know, for a moment in time, it felt like, oh,

02:40:11.030 --> 02:40:13.469
my gosh, they're really going to, whew, they're

02:40:13.469 --> 02:40:16.069
going to redo it all. And then it's every year,

02:40:16.069 --> 02:40:20.790
nothing. Every year, people are outraged. It

02:40:20.790 --> 02:40:23.409
seems like it escalates. People love to be outraged.

02:40:23.409 --> 02:40:24.909
They do. It makes them feel like they're doing

02:40:24.909 --> 02:40:27.469
something. They enjoy it. They seem to enjoy

02:40:27.469 --> 02:40:31.760
it. They do. Yeah. Well, it gives you a purpose.

02:40:31.959 --> 02:40:34.540
Yeah. You know, that's part of the thing of being,

02:40:34.600 --> 02:40:36.680
you know, if you think you're an activist, air

02:40:36.680 --> 02:40:38.680
quotes, you know, you think you're out there

02:40:38.680 --> 02:40:40.739
affecting things and you're out there chanting

02:40:40.739 --> 02:40:43.059
and screaming and carrying the signs that the

02:40:43.059 --> 02:40:46.180
NGOs had print up. And you're out there, you

02:40:46.180 --> 02:40:47.959
know, you've got a purpose because otherwise

02:40:47.959 --> 02:40:49.399
you'd just be sitting at home watching TikTok.

02:40:49.680 --> 02:40:51.379
Yeah. Instead, you're out here saving the world.

02:40:51.459 --> 02:40:54.239
And people can see it. Yeah. But yeah, maybe

02:40:54.239 --> 02:40:59.510
organize a group to help people. Get their citizenship

02:40:59.510 --> 02:41:03.229
to help people – to help people. Yeah. Organize

02:41:03.229 --> 02:41:06.690
together to move things forward. Yeah. To help

02:41:06.690 --> 02:41:09.170
people would be nice. But the citizenship thing

02:41:09.170 --> 02:41:11.889
is kind of crazy because the borders were wide

02:41:11.889 --> 02:41:14.670
open for four years. And they just – they invited

02:41:14.670 --> 02:41:16.889
people into the country essentially, helped them

02:41:16.889 --> 02:41:20.069
get in, gave them aid. And then once they're

02:41:20.069 --> 02:41:21.610
in, now the new administration is trying to arrest

02:41:21.610 --> 02:41:24.809
them and capture them. So both things are crazy.

02:41:24.989 --> 02:41:28.280
It's crazy that you did this. And that you just

02:41:28.280 --> 02:41:30.500
let these people and told them, you know, you

02:41:30.500 --> 02:41:32.399
can have a better life, come to America. And

02:41:32.399 --> 02:41:35.020
then it's also crazy that now you've got armed

02:41:35.020 --> 02:41:37.680
masked people running up to people asking for

02:41:37.680 --> 02:41:40.079
your ID to check to see if you're an American.

02:41:40.540 --> 02:41:42.639
Yeah. Like both things are crazy. Both things

02:41:42.639 --> 02:41:49.360
are crazy. But it's just – there's no pathway.

02:41:50.010 --> 02:41:52.010
Even if you've been here – like if you came over

02:41:52.010 --> 02:41:53.950
here 25 years ago and you've been a great person

02:41:53.950 --> 02:41:56.350
and you pay your taxes and you raise a family

02:41:56.350 --> 02:41:58.370
and like there's no pathway. You have to go back

02:41:58.370 --> 02:42:00.370
to Mexico or go back to Guatemala or wherever

02:42:00.370 --> 02:42:03.889
you're from. The only way to apply to do it the

02:42:03.889 --> 02:42:06.829
right way is you have to leave the country, which

02:42:06.829 --> 02:42:08.850
also seems kind of crazy. Like you've built a

02:42:08.850 --> 02:42:12.489
life here. Right. There should be some kind of

02:42:12.489 --> 02:42:15.040
amnesty. Now, I'm not saying that for people

02:42:15.040 --> 02:42:16.940
that are criminals or people that, like, just

02:42:16.940 --> 02:42:20.079
got here. Like, there should be some – no. Like,

02:42:21.139 --> 02:42:22.959
if you were one of the people that just recently

02:42:22.959 --> 02:42:25.500
snuck across the border, like, no. Like, this

02:42:25.500 --> 02:42:27.260
is crazy. You haven't built a life here. This

02:42:27.260 --> 02:42:32.780
is going to be hard to – That's a tough system,

02:42:33.000 --> 02:42:35.920
right? Some people, yes, and some people, no.

02:42:36.100 --> 02:42:38.139
Oh, it's a tough system. It's definitely a tough

02:42:38.139 --> 02:42:41.040
system. The whole thing is tough because we're

02:42:41.040 --> 02:42:43.479
a country that's established by immigrants. It

02:42:43.479 --> 02:42:46.020
feels impossible. But you can't have an open

02:42:46.020 --> 02:42:48.719
border. You can't just have anybody come through

02:42:48.719 --> 02:42:50.020
because there's going to be a bunch of criminals

02:42:50.020 --> 02:42:51.840
that come through, and you don't want that. You

02:42:51.840 --> 02:42:54.319
don't want your country to be more crime -infested.

02:42:54.399 --> 02:42:56.159
You don't want your country to have murderers.

02:42:57.000 --> 02:42:59.819
you know, cartel members just coming into the

02:42:59.819 --> 02:43:02.559
country and now getting citizenship and being

02:43:02.559 --> 02:43:04.959
able to vote and organizing. And that's crazy.

02:43:05.200 --> 02:43:08.059
That's crazy. That's a good way to destroy your

02:43:08.059 --> 02:43:10.360
country. Yeah. You know, you have to have some

02:43:10.360 --> 02:43:13.139
way to vet whether or not people are good people.

02:43:14.180 --> 02:43:16.579
Yeah. But when you just let everybody in and

02:43:16.579 --> 02:43:19.299
you let 10 million people in, how do you, unless

02:43:19.299 --> 02:43:21.399
they get arrested while they're here. Right.

02:43:21.520 --> 02:43:23.799
What do you do? And even then, like a lot of

02:43:23.799 --> 02:43:25.319
them during the Biden administration, they were

02:43:25.319 --> 02:43:28.389
getting let go. Sanctuary cities will let people

02:43:28.389 --> 02:43:31.170
go. They weren't overcrowded. It's just crazy.

02:43:31.469 --> 02:43:33.690
The whole thing is crazy because it's become

02:43:33.690 --> 02:43:36.309
a part of a political pawn because they just

02:43:36.309 --> 02:43:38.469
want a bunch of people in these swing states

02:43:38.469 --> 02:43:41.209
for the census. So they get more congressional

02:43:41.209 --> 02:43:43.270
seats, and if they get these people and give

02:43:43.270 --> 02:43:45.450
them the ability to vote, now you have a built

02:43:45.450 --> 02:43:47.409
-in voter base, and you can just rig the election.

02:43:47.590 --> 02:43:49.850
You can rig it that way. I need the white bill.

02:43:50.430 --> 02:43:54.569
Yeah. Or the grayish white bill. I'm handing

02:43:54.569 --> 02:43:58.629
out gray bills. We might be okay. That being

02:43:58.629 --> 02:44:00.709
said, we might be okay. Things are headed in

02:44:00.709 --> 02:44:02.909
a pretty good direction. It's possible that we

02:44:02.909 --> 02:44:04.750
could be okay. But there's a bunch of things

02:44:04.750 --> 02:44:07.389
that have to happen. But a bunch of things have

02:44:07.389 --> 02:44:10.409
happened that have allowed us to understand how

02:44:10.409 --> 02:44:13.010
fucked we are, which is the first step towards

02:44:13.010 --> 02:44:16.549
fixing it. Admitting you have a problem. The

02:44:16.549 --> 02:44:18.950
big one was Elon buying Twitter. That was one

02:44:18.950 --> 02:44:21.149
of the biggest ones of all time. The problem?

02:44:21.370 --> 02:44:24.889
No, the big solution. Oh, for free speech. We

02:44:24.889 --> 02:44:27.129
found out when he bought Twitter that the government

02:44:27.129 --> 02:44:30.370
had been censoring people's speech. Yeah. You

02:44:30.370 --> 02:44:32.829
can talk to Bobby about that. Crazy. It's crazy.

02:44:33.190 --> 02:44:38.770
Crazy. Censoring accurate speech by experts from

02:44:38.770 --> 02:44:42.030
Stanford, MIT, these people that were experts

02:44:42.030 --> 02:44:44.430
in their fields that say this data does not align

02:44:44.430 --> 02:44:47.030
with, you know, what you're saying does not align

02:44:47.030 --> 02:44:49.850
with the truth. And this is what I think. And

02:44:49.850 --> 02:44:51.309
these people were silenced. They were kicked

02:44:51.309 --> 02:44:53.989
off Twitter. They lost their careers. It was

02:44:53.989 --> 02:44:57.049
crazy. And the government orchestrated it. That's

02:44:57.049 --> 02:44:58.829
not good. We wouldn't have known that if Elon

02:44:58.829 --> 02:45:01.290
didn't buy Twitter. And you think people would

02:45:01.290 --> 02:45:03.489
be outraged by that. You think a lot of people

02:45:03.489 --> 02:45:05.569
would be outraged. On both sides of the aisle.

02:45:05.729 --> 02:45:08.250
On both sides of the aisle. They should be. About

02:45:08.250 --> 02:45:11.370
free speech being shut down. But people were

02:45:11.370 --> 02:45:13.909
happy with them doing it as long as it aligned

02:45:13.909 --> 02:45:16.989
with their values. Yeah. Yeah. That's not good.

02:45:17.740 --> 02:45:19.979
Yeah. That's not good. None of it's good. No.

02:45:20.159 --> 02:45:23.620
Yeah. It's like we've got to have some rock solid

02:45:23.620 --> 02:45:27.059
ethics and morals. And if we don't have that.

02:45:27.260 --> 02:45:30.680
Where do we get those? Jesus. Jesus. Jesus has

02:45:30.680 --> 02:45:33.219
to come back. Please, Jesus. If you're going

02:45:33.219 --> 02:45:35.780
to come back, Jesus, now's a good time. But if

02:45:35.780 --> 02:45:37.059
he came back, everybody's like, it's fucking

02:45:37.059 --> 02:45:40.399
AI. They think we're dopes. Nobody would believe

02:45:40.399 --> 02:45:41.680
him. If Jesus is like hovering over the Pentagon,

02:45:42.040 --> 02:45:44.120
please stop with this war. They're like, this

02:45:44.120 --> 02:45:47.329
is. Nobody believes it. Yeah. That'd be the real

02:45:47.329 --> 02:45:49.690
problem. That's going to be the conundrum. Jesus

02:45:49.690 --> 02:45:51.829
is going to come back when AI hits its full peak.

02:45:51.950 --> 02:45:54.030
No one's going to believe. They're going to go,

02:45:54.090 --> 02:45:56.829
what? There'll be a few. But then that'll be

02:45:56.829 --> 02:45:59.030
really divided. It'll be like three people in

02:45:59.030 --> 02:46:01.110
the rest of the world. It'll be the people that

02:46:01.110 --> 02:46:02.510
see like the Virgin Mary on a grilled cheese

02:46:02.510 --> 02:46:06.370
sandwich. Those people. Which, by the way, I've

02:46:06.370 --> 02:46:10.370
seen pictures. You never know. What a crazy thing.

02:46:10.469 --> 02:46:14.790
The Virgin Mary wanted to give you a sign right

02:46:14.790 --> 02:46:16.950
on a grilled cheese sandwich. Yeah. I'm here

02:46:16.950 --> 02:46:19.729
to let you know. God is real. I'm here. It's

02:46:19.729 --> 02:46:22.510
like, oh, I was hungry. I wanted to eat that,

02:46:22.530 --> 02:46:25.170
but now what do you do with it? Put it in a baggie.

02:46:25.270 --> 02:46:26.909
You got to save it. You can't just eat it. That's

02:46:26.909 --> 02:46:33.250
crazy. But then what happens? Keep it. Show relatives?

02:46:33.530 --> 02:46:35.909
Keep it in the freezer. I think we're going to

02:46:35.909 --> 02:46:40.049
need something that happens. I hope it's not

02:46:40.049 --> 02:46:41.930
something bad because one of the things when

02:46:41.930 --> 02:46:44.690
something bad happens is it unites us. Like 9

02:46:44.690 --> 02:46:47.149
-11. I know, yeah. 9 -11 united us. It did. For

02:46:47.149 --> 02:46:49.290
a small amount of time, people were pretty awesome

02:46:49.290 --> 02:46:51.829
to each other. And we realized that we're really

02:46:51.829 --> 02:46:53.590
together. Yeah. We're supposed to be one group

02:46:53.590 --> 02:46:55.750
of people. Yeah. I just hope it doesn't take

02:46:55.750 --> 02:46:57.750
something like that for us to snap out of this

02:46:57.750 --> 02:47:02.850
crazy. Right versus left thing because people

02:47:02.850 --> 02:47:05.450
just pick a side and adopt their pattern of thinking.

02:47:05.610 --> 02:47:08.309
Yes. They adopt their – whatever their values

02:47:08.309 --> 02:47:11.149
are, whatever their opinions are. They just adopt

02:47:11.149 --> 02:47:13.889
a conglomeration of other people's opinions rather

02:47:13.889 --> 02:47:16.250
than forming their own. And you can't question

02:47:16.250 --> 02:47:18.209
anything because if you do, you get cast out.

02:47:18.909 --> 02:47:22.629
And you have to make clear that the other side

02:47:22.629 --> 02:47:25.610
is really wrong. And the other side is evil and

02:47:25.610 --> 02:47:27.469
you're good. Yes. It's good versus evil. It is

02:47:27.469 --> 02:47:29.860
good versus evil. And with every – election this

02:47:29.860 --> 02:47:33.879
could be the end of democracy oh every time democracy

02:47:33.879 --> 02:47:37.420
is on the line this is the yeah yeah i get sick

02:47:37.420 --> 02:47:39.420
of that one yeah oprah said that when she was

02:47:39.420 --> 02:47:40.799
running for commonwealth this might be the last

02:47:40.799 --> 02:47:43.559
time you're ever allowed to vote like yeah no

02:47:43.559 --> 02:47:47.319
is that on the table do you think people are

02:47:47.319 --> 02:47:50.200
going to tolerate that for real trump's going

02:47:50.200 --> 02:47:54.379
to be an emperor okay i know Yeah. What? I know.

02:47:54.600 --> 02:47:57.420
It's weird. But that's how they get people riled

02:47:57.420 --> 02:47:59.780
up and get people to vote. Yeah. You got to,

02:47:59.780 --> 02:48:02.120
you know, you got to use hyperbole. Yeah. Yeah.

02:48:02.479 --> 02:48:04.799
You have to make people mad. If Bobby tried to

02:48:04.799 --> 02:48:06.920
run for president again, would you tell him,

02:48:06.940 --> 02:48:10.860
fuck you? Like, there's no way. Would you go,

02:48:10.879 --> 02:48:13.920
would you say, look, we did this rodeo. Enough,

02:48:14.020 --> 02:48:17.600
dude. He's not going to run again, but. Thank

02:48:17.600 --> 02:48:22.659
the baby Jesus. If he did, you know. Once again,

02:48:22.680 --> 02:48:25.360
I'm saying he's not running. But I do feel like

02:48:25.360 --> 02:48:32.280
it would be different because before I knew it

02:48:32.280 --> 02:48:36.100
was going to be crazy. I didn't know why. It's

02:48:36.100 --> 02:48:38.200
kind of like having a baby. You know, it's going

02:48:38.200 --> 02:48:39.620
to be hard, but you're not sure why until you

02:48:39.620 --> 02:48:41.920
have a baby. And then you're like every night

02:48:41.920 --> 02:48:43.600
you're hoping your baby lives till tomorrow.

02:48:43.639 --> 02:48:45.360
And it's a different kind of stress that you

02:48:45.360 --> 02:48:51.329
had no idea existed. But with Bobby. I know now.

02:48:52.729 --> 02:48:58.329
I know what they're all up to. I've heard all

02:48:58.329 --> 02:49:03.090
of the stuff that comes out, the people that

02:49:03.090 --> 02:49:06.290
come out and they spend all day and night online,

02:49:07.010 --> 02:49:12.930
going to events, trying to get him, attack him,

02:49:12.989 --> 02:49:17.409
expose him, paint him as this or that. And it

02:49:17.409 --> 02:49:21.350
was a lot, you know. That was a lot. And at the

02:49:21.350 --> 02:49:26.229
same time, it's so much bullshit that I know

02:49:26.229 --> 02:49:33.750
now what to expect. Like just a lot of bullshit

02:49:33.750 --> 02:49:37.709
all day, every day. And I would know more what

02:49:37.709 --> 02:49:42.709
to pay attention to and what to concern myself

02:49:42.709 --> 02:49:46.149
with. Because before, it was all coming at you

02:49:46.149 --> 02:49:50.959
every day, all day. And also my own career, my

02:49:50.959 --> 02:49:56.360
own friends, my decisions got lumped in with

02:49:56.360 --> 02:49:59.100
that. So it so everything changed. Everything

02:49:59.100 --> 02:50:02.139
was changing all day, every day. And I feel like

02:50:02.139 --> 02:50:06.780
the changes that have been made wouldn't have

02:50:06.780 --> 02:50:10.280
to. Things have already changed. Some things

02:50:10.280 --> 02:50:12.639
have changed. So it wouldn't be in that state

02:50:12.639 --> 02:50:15.420
of chaos every day. It would be a different type

02:50:15.420 --> 02:50:17.950
of chaos. Yeah, it's definitely chaos, too. But

02:50:17.950 --> 02:50:21.229
I see why people run again. Because before, when

02:50:21.229 --> 02:50:23.989
I watched people run again, you're watching it,

02:50:23.989 --> 02:50:26.389
and it's just like a, you can't, it's like a,

02:50:26.389 --> 02:50:29.569
you know, dumpster fire. You're thinking, there's

02:50:29.569 --> 02:50:31.629
no way that guy is going to run again. That had

02:50:31.629 --> 02:50:35.530
to be the worst four years. Hillary, there's

02:50:35.530 --> 02:50:37.549
no way she can run again. That had to be the

02:50:37.549 --> 02:50:39.829
worst time of her life. And then they run again,

02:50:40.010 --> 02:50:45.520
you know? And then you feel like, oh. Now I understand

02:50:45.520 --> 02:50:49.079
why. Because there's almost that idea of, like,

02:50:49.079 --> 02:50:51.920
that's all you had. You gave your best shot.

02:50:52.059 --> 02:50:57.200
You pulled out all the stops from 1989 to, you

02:50:57.200 --> 02:51:01.020
know. So, like, they can't say the same bullshit

02:51:01.020 --> 02:51:05.399
over and over. So there's that part of it that's

02:51:05.399 --> 02:51:08.379
like, okay. And I'm sure it's intoxicating for

02:51:08.379 --> 02:51:11.159
some people. Yeah. Well, people like winning,

02:51:11.219 --> 02:51:14.520
too. People like winning. So they want to be

02:51:14.520 --> 02:51:17.059
the person that's on the TV that says, the new

02:51:17.059 --> 02:51:19.559
president of the United States. They want to

02:51:19.559 --> 02:51:22.260
be that person. I fucking won. You know? Yeah.

02:51:22.559 --> 02:51:24.860
That's why people want to win an Oscar. That's

02:51:24.860 --> 02:51:26.379
why people want to win everything. They want

02:51:26.379 --> 02:51:28.680
to win. They want to be the person on TV. Everybody

02:51:28.680 --> 02:51:31.639
says they're a winner. Ah. What about all the

02:51:31.639 --> 02:51:37.399
presidents before TV? They didn't care. Or, I

02:51:37.399 --> 02:51:40.600
mean. I don't know. I mean, one of the weirder

02:51:40.600 --> 02:51:43.700
presidents that was on TV was Eisenhower. Because

02:51:43.700 --> 02:51:45.420
when he was leaving office, he told everybody

02:51:45.420 --> 02:51:47.600
to be careful of the military industrial complex.

02:51:47.979 --> 02:51:51.440
He warned them on television, his speech to the

02:51:51.440 --> 02:51:55.780
union. You ever seen that? It's kind of crazy.

02:51:56.260 --> 02:52:02.729
Because this guy's, you know, decorated. Former

02:52:02.729 --> 02:52:05.850
president. I mean, he's leaving office. And as

02:52:05.850 --> 02:52:10.350
he's leaving, he's telling people to be careful.

02:52:10.649 --> 02:52:14.049
You have to be very wary that the military industrial

02:52:14.049 --> 02:52:17.889
complex wants to go to war and that we have to

02:52:17.889 --> 02:52:21.149
be very wary about their influence. This is a

02:52:21.149 --> 02:52:24.129
sitting president. Yeah. Who's announcing it

02:52:24.129 --> 02:52:26.549
to the nation. I think people are probably like,

02:52:26.610 --> 02:52:30.409
wait, what? What was that? I feel like that was

02:52:30.409 --> 02:52:34.059
in the late. When did Eisenhower give that famous

02:52:34.059 --> 02:52:38.260
speech? 61. 61. Farewell Address. It's crazy.

02:52:38.360 --> 02:52:39.860
You want to see it? Yeah. Let's play that and

02:52:39.860 --> 02:52:41.440
we'll leave with this because this is kind of

02:52:41.440 --> 02:52:46.319
nuts. Because this aired on television back then

02:52:46.319 --> 02:52:47.959
and obviously back then there's no internet.

02:52:48.319 --> 02:52:50.600
There's no VCRs. There's no nothing. So you saw

02:52:50.600 --> 02:52:52.200
it or you didn't see it. And that was it. And

02:52:52.200 --> 02:52:55.059
you heard it secondhand. Yeah. And whatever opinions

02:52:55.059 --> 02:52:56.940
you get about it are from your neighbors and

02:52:56.940 --> 02:52:58.860
that's it. And everybody shared their opinions

02:52:58.860 --> 02:53:01.200
and it just got washed away. And no one really

02:53:01.200 --> 02:53:03.840
thought about it until the Internet came around

02:53:03.840 --> 02:53:05.879
and people were allowed to review it. So this

02:53:05.879 --> 02:53:09.479
is Eisenhower in 61. The vital element in keeping

02:53:09.479 --> 02:53:12.639
the peace is our military establishment. Our

02:53:12.639 --> 02:53:15.659
arms must be mighty, ready for instant action,

02:53:15.780 --> 02:53:19.120
so that no potential aggressor may be tempted

02:53:19.120 --> 02:53:23.219
to risk his own destruction. Our military organization

02:53:23.219 --> 02:53:27.340
today bears little relation to that known of

02:53:27.340 --> 02:53:30.680
any of my predecessors in peacetime. or indeed

02:53:30.680 --> 02:53:33.719
by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.

02:53:35.159 --> 02:53:38.600
Until the latest of our world conflicts, the

02:53:38.600 --> 02:53:43.020
United States had no armaments industry. American

02:53:43.020 --> 02:53:46.979
makers of plowshares could, with time and as

02:53:46.979 --> 02:53:51.340
required, make swords as well. But we can no

02:53:51.340 --> 02:53:54.340
longer risk emergency improvisation of national

02:53:54.340 --> 02:53:58.559
defense. We have been compelled to create a permanent

02:53:58.559 --> 02:54:02.559
armaments industry of vast proportions. Added

02:54:02.559 --> 02:54:05.659
to this, three and a half million men and women

02:54:05.659 --> 02:54:09.000
are directly engaged in the defense establishment.

02:54:09.680 --> 02:54:13.579
We annually spend on military security alone

02:54:13.579 --> 02:54:17.459
more than the net income of all United States

02:54:17.459 --> 02:54:22.239
corporations. Now this conjunction of an immense

02:54:22.239 --> 02:54:25.040
military establishment and a large arms industry

02:54:25.500 --> 02:54:29.799
is new in the American experience. The total

02:54:29.799 --> 02:54:33.700
influence, economic, political, even spiritual,

02:54:34.020 --> 02:54:37.940
is felt in every city, every statehouse, every

02:54:37.940 --> 02:54:41.260
office of the federal government. We recognize

02:54:41.260 --> 02:54:44.420
the imperative need for this development, yet

02:54:44.420 --> 02:54:48.260
we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications.

02:54:48.959 --> 02:54:52.940
Our toil, resources, and livelihood are all involved.

02:54:53.799 --> 02:54:57.920
So is the very structure of our society. In the

02:54:57.920 --> 02:55:01.100
councils of government, we must guard against

02:55:01.100 --> 02:55:04.520
the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether

02:55:04.520 --> 02:55:07.899
sought or unsought, by the military -industrial

02:55:07.899 --> 02:55:11.799
complex. The potential for the disastrous rise

02:55:11.799 --> 02:55:16.579
of misplaced power exists and will persist. We

02:55:16.579 --> 02:55:18.540
must never let the weight of this combination

02:55:18.540 --> 02:55:21.420
endanger our liberties or democratic processes.

02:55:22.319 --> 02:55:26.180
We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert

02:55:26.180 --> 02:55:30.379
and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper

02:55:30.379 --> 02:55:33.440
meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery

02:55:33.440 --> 02:55:36.659
of defense with our peaceful methods and goals.

02:55:37.000 --> 02:55:41.239
Crazy. It is crazy. So it's basically... He was

02:55:41.239 --> 02:55:43.440
predicting exactly what we're dealing with right

02:55:43.440 --> 02:55:47.840
now. Which is just like the president should

02:55:47.840 --> 02:55:51.219
be responsible for keeping our country out of

02:55:51.219 --> 02:55:56.299
war. Yeah. And, well, also that there's a machine

02:55:56.299 --> 02:55:58.639
that wants to go to war. Yeah. Because that's

02:55:58.639 --> 02:56:01.020
how they make money. Because there's more money

02:56:01.020 --> 02:56:04.319
involved in that than anything. Oh, I've learned

02:56:04.319 --> 02:56:07.159
a lot about that, too. That's scary. It's pretty

02:56:07.159 --> 02:56:08.440
crazy. You don't want to be on the wrong side

02:56:08.440 --> 02:56:12.799
of that. No. No. I've seen some shit, man. I

02:56:12.799 --> 02:56:15.840
bet you have. Like stuff I did, I don't want

02:56:15.840 --> 02:56:20.750
to know. Was the most disturbing thing... Well,

02:56:20.809 --> 02:56:25.809
what was the most disturbing thing? For you personally,

02:56:25.969 --> 02:56:31.930
going through all of it. Oh, for me? Yeah. I

02:56:31.930 --> 02:56:40.049
think, well, definitely I was worried about Bobby's

02:56:40.049 --> 02:56:45.629
safety. You know, just watching him. Yeah. Especially,

02:56:45.909 --> 02:56:51.040
yeah. So that, and then... And then for me, you

02:56:51.040 --> 02:56:56.899
know, I, everything changed and a lot of, and

02:56:56.899 --> 02:57:01.100
I don't know, people just have, it was interesting

02:57:01.100 --> 02:57:06.440
to watch people change their attitude about me

02:57:06.440 --> 02:57:11.079
or that they, I'm not the person they thought

02:57:11.079 --> 02:57:14.760
I was type of feeling, which is strange because

02:57:14.760 --> 02:57:20.379
I'm still the same person. So that was really,

02:57:20.579 --> 02:57:26.840
and still is too, a sense very strange. Yeah,

02:57:26.860 --> 02:57:29.739
but you find out who's real. Yeah, you do. That's

02:57:29.739 --> 02:57:31.760
probably a good thing. Yeah, it is. It's good

02:57:31.760 --> 02:57:34.500
for someone to betray you like that. Like, oh,

02:57:34.659 --> 02:57:37.680
look at you, sweetie. See who rises to the top.

02:57:37.760 --> 02:57:41.719
Yeah. Yeah, it's true. It's painful though. Yeah.

02:57:41.739 --> 02:57:43.719
You know? It sucks if you really like that person

02:57:43.719 --> 02:57:50.909
and all of a sudden. Yeah. Yeah. And also just

02:57:50.909 --> 02:57:59.530
people that don't know you, they assume things

02:57:59.530 --> 02:58:04.649
that aren't true. I mean, I sound ridiculous.

02:58:04.850 --> 02:58:09.450
It's like, okay, get in line. But it was different.

02:58:10.069 --> 02:58:13.950
I just did not expect politics to be such a part

02:58:13.950 --> 02:58:23.170
of my life. Yeah. I'm still shocked. But, you

02:58:23.170 --> 02:58:28.030
know, everything's good now. But it was, there

02:58:28.030 --> 02:58:31.270
were times, and there still are times. But really,

02:58:31.389 --> 02:58:36.569
the safety, Bobby's safety, was the most stressful.

02:58:37.489 --> 02:58:41.610
Every day, all day. You know, now he... travels

02:58:41.610 --> 02:58:43.950
with the marshals and then that's a and even

02:58:43.950 --> 02:58:46.270
when we even when he was running and that's why

02:58:46.270 --> 02:58:51.010
i do write my book um unscripted that uh you

02:58:51.010 --> 02:58:53.950
know he was trying to get secret service protection

02:58:53.950 --> 02:58:58.770
for so long and was denied which is also right

02:58:58.770 --> 02:59:02.670
while i was running yeah which is crazy it was

02:59:02.670 --> 02:59:06.110
crazy um and then the bind administration's like

02:59:06.110 --> 02:59:10.239
nope no yeah everybody else You can have it,

02:59:10.239 --> 02:59:16.059
but not you. So crazy. And then he did get Secret

02:59:16.059 --> 02:59:19.520
Service after the assassination attempt on President

02:59:19.520 --> 02:59:23.020
Trump. But it wasn't for very long because the

02:59:23.020 --> 02:59:27.100
election was, you know, close anyway. But just

02:59:27.100 --> 02:59:34.200
that, just having Secret Service and security

02:59:34.200 --> 02:59:39.399
around you all the time is... crazy you know

02:59:39.399 --> 02:59:42.180
and you learn and also you know what's disturbing

02:59:42.180 --> 02:59:47.139
like you learn you learn what to look for and

02:59:47.139 --> 02:59:51.299
what to do in an emergency and what you know

02:59:51.299 --> 02:59:56.659
things that you would never really things that

02:59:56.659 --> 02:59:58.840
you wouldn't think about but then now you walk

02:59:58.840 --> 03:00:00.520
into a room and you look at people and you're

03:00:00.520 --> 03:00:05.610
like okay that guy's sweating A lot for no reason.

03:00:05.629 --> 03:00:08.329
You look to see what's suspicious, what's going

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on, and you see things differently. You have

03:00:13.090 --> 03:00:15.350
to have your guard up for the kooks. Yeah, a

03:00:15.350 --> 03:00:18.569
lot of kooks. There are a lot of kooks. Yeah,

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and this is a conversation we had recently. I

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think they've weaponized those kooks. They make

03:00:25.469 --> 03:00:27.090
these people think that they're doing something

03:00:27.090 --> 03:00:30.030
important. Yeah. There was a lot of talk like

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that, like someone needs to step up and do something.

03:00:32.840 --> 03:00:34.799
Like, what? What are you saying? Like, what do

03:00:34.799 --> 03:00:37.079
you say? What the fuck are you saying? Right.

03:00:37.440 --> 03:00:40.920
Right. Yeah. Like, imagine advocating for that

03:00:40.920 --> 03:00:43.739
and thinking you're on the good side. Yeah. You

03:00:43.739 --> 03:00:45.739
should do something. Yeah. That the only solution

03:00:45.739 --> 03:00:46.579
is assassination. Take matters into your own

03:00:46.579 --> 03:00:49.299
hands. Someone needs to do that. Yeah. Yeah.

03:00:50.659 --> 03:00:54.100
Wow. I'm glad we're leaving this on a high note.

03:00:54.180 --> 03:00:59.000
Yeah. Well, it is an undeniably bizarre time.

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You know, it was a bizarre time. And again, I

03:01:01.600 --> 03:01:04.959
think. It's uniquely bizarre today because we

03:01:04.959 --> 03:01:07.059
know more about what's really going on than ever

03:01:07.059 --> 03:01:10.579
before. Yeah. We know more about the behind -the

03:01:10.579 --> 03:01:16.159
-scenes stuff than ever before. Yeah. And it's

03:01:16.159 --> 03:01:19.379
about who do you believe. That's the thing. Well,

03:01:19.520 --> 03:01:23.079
once again, that's why people really like your

03:01:23.079 --> 03:01:29.219
show because you're not trying to win anything.

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You're not trying to get anything. That's why

03:01:32.870 --> 03:01:36.409
people really respond to it. I think people need

03:01:36.409 --> 03:01:41.069
some kind of uncensored, uncontrolled discourse.

03:01:41.170 --> 03:01:44.829
There's hardly any out there. No. Most of it

03:01:44.829 --> 03:01:48.489
is controlled by advertisers. Yeah. Yeah. And

03:01:48.489 --> 03:01:52.110
that's just not good. Yeah. All my friends who

03:01:52.110 --> 03:01:54.590
do shows where they're on some sort of a show,

03:01:54.690 --> 03:01:59.989
you have to. You get notes. People come in. You

03:01:59.989 --> 03:02:02.590
got to cut this out. Can't talk about that. Don't

03:02:02.590 --> 03:02:04.190
bring this up. This is going to piss off that

03:02:04.190 --> 03:02:07.250
company that's going to do this. Yeah. It's not

03:02:07.250 --> 03:02:09.510
good for us. Yeah. And that's the beautiful thing

03:02:09.510 --> 03:02:11.110
about the Internet. Like, this is a thing that

03:02:11.110 --> 03:02:13.500
they never saw coming. And this is what's so

03:02:13.500 --> 03:02:16.299
important about Elon owning Twitter. You know,

03:02:16.319 --> 03:02:18.520
he just turned it into the Wild West. Like, go

03:02:18.520 --> 03:02:21.959
crazy. Yeah. That's what we need. That's the

03:02:21.959 --> 03:02:24.120
only... You get a lot of bullshit. There's a

03:02:24.120 --> 03:02:25.799
lot of... Everyone's going to get tricked a few

03:02:25.799 --> 03:02:30.079
times. But for the most part, reality resurfaces.

03:02:30.739 --> 03:02:33.280
Hmm. So that's our white belt. I'm going to...

03:02:34.729 --> 03:02:36.950
I'm going to try to remember that. For the most

03:02:36.950 --> 03:02:39.770
part, reality resurfaces. Yeah, when you try

03:02:39.770 --> 03:02:42.229
to squash it for a long time, no matter what,

03:02:42.370 --> 03:02:46.870
eventually it pops up. You go, oh, this is real.

03:02:46.989 --> 03:02:48.969
Yeah, because there's only one truth, right?

03:02:49.030 --> 03:02:50.649
There are a lot of different lies, lies, lies.

03:02:50.930 --> 03:02:54.450
But the only one truth, and if it... Like you're

03:02:54.450 --> 03:02:56.709
saying, keeps coming up. It's really hard to

03:02:56.709 --> 03:02:58.829
deny. Yeah. The problem is like with government,

03:02:59.030 --> 03:03:02.190
the truth is so difficult to understand. There's

03:03:02.190 --> 03:03:04.569
so much going on. There's so many moving pieces.

03:03:04.690 --> 03:03:06.110
You're like, OK, well, why is that happening?

03:03:06.229 --> 03:03:08.530
Who's doing that? Why is that? Why did they make

03:03:08.530 --> 03:03:10.049
that decision in the first place? Well, what

03:03:10.049 --> 03:03:11.909
happened to that ruler? How did he get kicked

03:03:11.909 --> 03:03:14.709
out of office? We funded that? Like, oh, God.

03:03:14.950 --> 03:03:17.510
Yeah. And it's just so. The rabbit hole goes

03:03:17.510 --> 03:03:20.110
so deep. Yeah. And that's one of the reasons

03:03:20.110 --> 03:03:21.850
why people get so obsessed with all this stuff,

03:03:21.930 --> 03:03:24.309
because you could lose your mind just chasing

03:03:24.309 --> 03:03:29.190
down every single story. Yeah. Or just make a

03:03:29.190 --> 03:03:33.670
new one. Make your own. It's easier for them.

03:03:33.930 --> 03:03:35.610
Just make a new one. Yeah, you could definitely

03:03:35.610 --> 03:03:37.989
make one up. You don't have to worry about the

03:03:37.989 --> 03:03:40.569
facts and what's real. It's just like, oh, did

03:03:40.569 --> 03:03:43.729
you hear about it? Unscripted. You did the audio

03:03:43.729 --> 03:03:47.569
for it? I did. My sister says to play it like

03:03:47.569 --> 03:03:53.049
at least one speed faster. Your sister's telling

03:03:53.049 --> 03:03:55.549
you. That's like a subtle way of her saying you're

03:03:55.549 --> 03:03:57.870
boring. Why are you talking so slowly? Oh, that's

03:03:57.870 --> 03:04:00.170
funny. But yeah, it's interesting. I mean, I

03:04:00.170 --> 03:04:02.389
think it's, of course, I hope I think it's interesting

03:04:02.389 --> 03:04:05.149
because I wrote it. But yeah, there's definitely

03:04:05.149 --> 03:04:12.809
stuff about Curb, stuff about the... Bobby, the

03:04:12.809 --> 03:04:15.069
politics. Bobby before politics. Bobby after

03:04:15.069 --> 03:04:18.989
politics. It's great. It's a wild ride. All right.

03:04:19.209 --> 03:04:20.989
Well, thank you very much, Cheryl. I really enjoyed

03:04:20.989 --> 03:04:22.190
talking to you. Thank you, Toby, too. It was

03:04:22.190 --> 03:04:23.750
a lot of fun. Me, too. Thank you. Thank you,

03:04:23.750 --> 03:04:24.809
everybody. Bye. Bye.