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What a day to have you in here, buddy. Kid in

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a candy shop. We hacked the government. We hacked

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the government's files evidently. I mean, this

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is we have three and a half million files that

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it feels like we should not have. It would have

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been great to have had. Seven years ago in 2019

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when this is being litigated, but it's an incredible

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moment of transparency for how the world works

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How governments interact with the private sector

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and funds and it's just really cool to be a part

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of it What was the holdup? What was the because

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it seemed like there was a lot of people that

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did not want these files released Yeah, I thought

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about this a lot What we have access to now are

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internal documents from the Justice Department

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and the FBI That are normally Even though they're

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not classified. They are part of a criminal investigation.

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And so they're not normally disclosable to the

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public It could be the case that it kind of required

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a congressional bill to force this out like when

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you if there's a internal investigation and it's

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not a part of a court document that's entered

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into evidence. You can't just FOIA the Justice

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Department to get dirt on your political enemies

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because you think that they might be involved

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in something. Now I don't know if it could have

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been done through an executive order around Epstein

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transparency around the time of the first binders.

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Certainly it looked like there was friction between

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the president and Thomas Massey over this issue.

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But I don't. I don't know the details of what

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went down there, but the fact is the bill passed

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427 to one in the house. Who's the one? My recollection

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is that it was Randy Fine, but I might be wrong

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on that, so I don't want to smear. There was

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one person who didn't want it released because

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they thought it would compromise the victims,

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right? At one point in time, at least. Yeah,

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I. I don't know what the rationale is, and because

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I don't recall offhand who the one is, I don't

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wanna lean on that too much, but the fact is,

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is nobody wanted to be on the other side of this.

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I can't think of anything that both Republicans

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and Democrats voted on 427 to one and, oh, I'm

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sorry, Clay Higgins, sorry, apologies to Randy

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Fine. Yeah, so, There was the I Mean there was

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obviously friction because this implicates everybody

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Republicans and Democrats Americans and a dozen

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different foreign countries Heads of major hedge

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funds and multinational corporations donors to

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all political parties major university and science

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institutions I mean almost every major player

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in world affairs was in some way either involved

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in or adjacent to this network or the network

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tried to reach out to them because they were

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influential. And so, you know, there was kind

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of a mutually assured destruction around the

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Epstein hot potato for a decade now, which is

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that out of power, The Republicans said, oh,

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the Democrats are don't want to disclose this

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because of the Clintons. And then the Trump administration

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gets into power and there's a very slow reaction

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to the kind of disclosures that culminated in

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what happened this week. And so you had the Democrats

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saying, oh, they're not disclosing it because

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of, you know, Trump world and his associates.

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Meanwhile, they controlled the Justice Department

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and the FBI for four years and didn't release

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any so you know it took in a moment like this

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and what's what's really interesting about it

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is this bill only compelled the disclosure this

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law that passed in congress only compelled the

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disclosure of justice department originated files

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justice department by extension fbi is the investigative

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arm of the justice department it does not compel

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cia originated files and One of the coolest moments

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of transparency we had last year in 2025 was

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when Tulsi Gabbard as the you know, ODNI is the

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head of director of sent of national intelligence

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in charge of the whole intelligence community

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spearheaded the JFK files release and we got

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basically fully unredacted Documents now. I know

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there's a contest over how complete they are.

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But the fact is is it was hundreds of thousands

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of files that had never been seen before, or

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unredacted versions of documents that had been

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fully or partially redacted for decades. The

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only reason that we have JFK files at all is

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because in 1992, Congress passed a bill to force

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the CIA to start turning over documents. The

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law, I believe, was called the JFK Records Collection

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Act, and it forced by law the CIA to establish

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this independent presidential assassination review

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board that would review documents for declassification

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and compel you know on the basis of that independent

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body given all of the intelligence intrigue around

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Epstein and the fact that it is in my view physically

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impossible over Epstein's 40 year career in intelligence

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adjacent work that there was that there's not

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Epstein files that are CIA originated and we

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actually You know, I saw this in the files that

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were just released Jeffrey Epstein himself twice

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FOIA. That's the Freedom of Information Act Which

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which is a law that I think came around in 1966

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which allows any US citizen to ask any government

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agency for all public records that has about

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anything. There are certain things that get blocked

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in that. There were a lot of FOIA fights about

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COVID. You know, Fauci, famously, there's this

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exchange where, you know, one of the folks in

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Fauci world says that they learned cool tricks

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from the FOIA lady about how to get around requests.

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But the fact is you can FOIA the CIA for records

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because That FOIA forces the CIA to give you

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declassified or unclassified records. And if

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it's classified, it'll issue a glomar. We cannot

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confirm or deny the existence or nonexistence

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of classified information. Before we get any

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further, the JFK stuff, I never heard anything

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about it. I mean, I know the files came out,

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but there was no big revelations. There was no...

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Was there anything that came out of that that

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was significant? I thought it was huge. I learned,

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I guess people are looking at the JFK files,

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most people are looking at it for clues as to

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who killed JFK. And I know that there are many

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researchers who specialize in the JFK assassination

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that have sharpened their theories, I suppose,

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on the basis of it in a useful way. for whatever

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it's worth. For me, I was never expecting to

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see a CIA document saying, I, James Jesus Angleton,

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authorized the assassination of the president

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of the United States. But the fact is is what

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it revealed were all of these tangential and

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ancillary documents that showed the structure

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of intelligence work. at a very fine and detailed

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level, the kind of revelations that really only

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come around once in a generation. There's a video

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online by Michael Parenti, who was a CIA whistleblower

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around the time of the Iran -Contra hearings

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in the 1980s. And he says, pay attention to these

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hearings. This may be the last time for another

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20, 30, 40 years that you ever get an inside

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look at the detailed like minutia of a covert

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operation because all this was being blasted

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on a congressional jumbotron with hearings and

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formal congressional investigations and public

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testimony and There's I sort of look at the JFK

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files released like that. We got a very detailed

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look at everything that was happening around

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effectively operation mongoose it because Do

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you refresh my memory? What was mongoose again?

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Yeah, so so we had so There was operation mongoose

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and operation condor which were which were related

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to the Nominally what you'll read is that they

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were related to the attempts by the CIA to for

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mongoose for example to Destabilize the government

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of Cuba in order to induce a regime change But

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because those efforts proved unsuccessful they

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regionalized the conflict to do counter communism

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work effectively throughout all of Latin America,

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the Caribbean, South America. And Operation Condor

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was effectively a kind of counter insurgency

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strategy to stop the rise of left -wing Marxist

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groups who were trying to throw off the yoke

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of American imperialism, so to speak, as they

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put it. And so you had a massive CIA operation

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to try to tilt the internal politics of basically

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every country south of the border. And we got

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incredibly just detailed. I'll give you an example

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of one declassified document that's really wild.

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There's one document that is a CIA file with

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instructions to delete all physical copies of

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the document at the end that describes how the

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agency had internally authorized an attempt to

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assassinate You know Castro by working through

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the Meyer Lansky syndicate and hiring two hitmen

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That were in Miami and then had but had contacts

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with the Cuban exile community liaisons within

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Cuba and so this was a this was a Formal agency

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file that described how a CIA case officer made

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contact with people from the mob organized crime

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with offers of pay payoffs with very detailed

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logistics you can find this I did a whole video

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on it on my the like X subscriber thing I'll

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you know put it on the top of my social media,

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but the but It also describes a really interesting

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Jeffrey Epstein -like figure. Robert Mayhew was

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a CIA asset. The JFK files, they describe how

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they got, they sponsored a movie to simulate,

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I believe it was the President of Indonesia.

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having an affair with a blonde woman, they filmed

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a, basically like a porno that would, and to

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create a tape, and they had very, they describe

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how they set up the room to make it look like

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it was, I think, in the presidential palace or

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some hotel room that would have been in that

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country, in order to create what's effectively

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a sexual blackmail tape, that could then be leaked

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to the press in order to discredit the president.

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And you look at these informal agency files,

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and on the one hand, you go, okay, that was the

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1960s. That was the early 1960s. That was before

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there was any oversight on the CIA at all. It

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wasn't until the Church Committee hearings in

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1975, 1976 that we even had congressional oversight

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of the CIA. There was no Senate Intelligence

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Committee. There was no House Intelligence Committee

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at the time. And at that point, assassinations

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had not been outlawed. I mean, the CIA was allowed

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to assassinate people. There's since been a ban

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on that. So you go, okay, that's 60 years ago.

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But the fact is they did it. The fact is that

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is within the array of options that folks in

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covert operations Saw as on the table working

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with the mob working with the mob now, but that

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goes back a long time I I found it totally unsurprising.

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It's one of these things is just kind of the

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general theme. It's shocked but not surprised,

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you know, it's like Holy crap. They they put

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this in writing What are we doing here guys?

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And then but you're like well, I'm not surprised

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they did it because I know they were doing all

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these other things the fact is is The CIA was

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working with the mob Before there was CIA Before

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it was done by the CIA Work with for example

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the the Italian mob was was done through the

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Department of War in the night really starting

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in the 1930s and then especially in the 1940s

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because they were the Central Intelligence Agency

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what the time it was the OSS in the 1940s, but

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it would become the CIA They're one of their

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main logistical points of contact and allies

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for the resistance against Mussolini in Italy.

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Mussolini was cracking down both on the Vatican

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church and on the Italian mafia. And so the Restrange

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Bedfellas, there's a great book on this by Paul

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Williams. I think it was published in 2017. It's

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called Operation Gladio, the CIA, the Vatican,

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and the Mob. And I recommend this book to everyone

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because it's a really really detailed academic

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deep dive on this nexus between a religious institution,

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an intelligence agency, an illegal organized

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crime syndicate that does all manner of black

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ops, and it especially focuses on the funding

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relationship. In fact, this just came out and

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this sort of gets to the utility of these documents.

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There's an incredible document that just was

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released this week where Larry Summers who was

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the head of the US Treasury so not only was he

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the head of Harvard University and the and the

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head of the American money system But he he says

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To he's trying to explain to Jeffrey Epstein

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kind of the the politics of what's happening

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in the Vatican And what he says to him is that

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what's what's actually most important going on

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right now is what's happening with the Vatican

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Bank, which is kind of the the deep politics

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of the Vatican and you know, I saw this email

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and I just You know laughed and did a little

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you know twirly thing in my in my chair because

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it's it's totally unsurprising if you read You

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know that book Operation Gladio that I that I

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mentioned it It traces 80 years of this because

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the Vatican Bank was the first offshore bank

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before offshore banking even existed. There was

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an alliance with the Vatican Bank during World

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War II itself with our Department of War and

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with organized crime outfits, at least according

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to the evidence that I find persuasive in this

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book and that appears to be validated by Italian

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court documents in the 1990s when all of this

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was litigated. Incidentally, that was when the

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mob was really prosecuted for the first time.

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But effectively, what happened was, is you had

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strange bedfellows. You had the United States

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who wanted to get rid of Mussolini. You had the

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Vatican who wanted to get rid of Mussolini. And

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you had organized crime who wanted to get rid

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of Mussolini. And because organized crime is

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very deep in the logistics and unions, they control

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the ports, they control the streets, they control

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safe houses. And if they have allies in a bank,

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they are able to launder money effectively in

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order to do black market type trade. And if you

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have, for example, the support of the US government

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to facilitate that, and there's protection offered

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to those organized crime groups, what you end

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up having is effectively state -sponsored a state

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-sponsored mafia with an untouchable bank. And

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at the time, because Larry Summers explains this

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to Jeffrey Epstein in very simple terms, which

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is, yeah, here you go. The most important change

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in the Vatican may not be Pope Benedict's son

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retirement, but change in leadership of the Institute

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for Works of Religion, the Vatican's bank. Because

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of the Vatican's status as a sovereign country,

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it's exempt from transparency rules of not only

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Italy, but of the European Union. This status

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allows its elite clients to evade any scrutiny

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in their money transfers. Last May, Vatican Bank

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president was fired after Italian authorities

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opened an investigation into a far flung bribery

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scheme. And he goes through this. But what's

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what's important here is the British. When we

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think of offshore banking now, it's usually associated

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with. Cayman Islands, Jersey, Man, Panama. Panama's

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sort of a different story, but it's usually associated

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with these kind of small island countries that

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are formerly kind of their own territory, their

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own sort of sovereign territory. You also see

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this within the United States in Native American

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reservations with these kind of autonomous zones

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that can be shielded from certain kinds of You

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know public disclosures that and a typical finance

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institution that's going on with Native American

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banks Well, yeah, this this was actually part

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audio. Limited time offer. Yeah. Yeah. In fact,

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if you watch the octopus murders, which I think

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was HBO or Netflix or one of those great. I haven't

00:21:19.539 --> 00:21:22.079
seen it, but it's awesome. It's fantastic. And,

00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:25.839
you know, it goes through how this was used effectively

00:21:25.839 --> 00:21:30.400
by the NSA during the promise software scandal

00:21:30.400 --> 00:21:34.319
and the Iran Contra scandal of the 1980s, where

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you had basically the NSA and then the U .S.

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government. running money laundering effectively

00:21:42.500 --> 00:21:47.819
through casinos on Native American sovereign

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territory. But the fact is, in the 1940s, the

00:21:51.619 --> 00:21:53.240
Vatican Bank was really the only game in town.

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This traces back at the CIA level to a lawyer

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named Paul Helliwell, who was kind of the architect

00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:04.759
of money laundering for the CIA. And it didn't

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even start, it really started with the... The

00:22:08.640 --> 00:22:14.720
attempt to try to stop Mao in the 1930s and 1940s

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There was there were the opium wars in the 1830s

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where effectively the British Empire and You

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know the East India Trading Company were making

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ungodly amounts of money by Selling opium to

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China. They would grow the opium on the Golden

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Crescent India and then they would sell it to

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China with the a huge customer base which would

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bring in huge amounts of revenues to the British

00:22:43.849 --> 00:22:47.289
crown And then there were two opium wars that

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were fought in the 1830s and 50s I believe around

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then or and the opium wars were China's attempt

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to stop The import of opium into China because

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it had a huge by that point Opium addiction problem

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opium dens in China were a massive issue within

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the country. They tried to ban it. And the British

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Crown pried open the narcotics market through

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a military conquest of parts of China. That's

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how Britain got control of Hong Kong, which remains

00:23:20.990 --> 00:23:24.269
a major marco narco trafficking site connected

00:23:24.269 --> 00:23:26.990
to Jeffrey Epstein in very weird ways. I'll just

00:23:26.990 --> 00:23:31.650
sidebar that. But Mao rose to power to, you know,

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in the name of. His public campaign was about

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rejecting the century of humiliation between

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the 1830s and the 1930s to support Shanghai Shek

00:23:41.049 --> 00:23:43.690
and the Kuomintang, the Chinese nationalists

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against the Chinese communists. The War Department

00:23:46.690 --> 00:23:49.289
couldn't get enough congressional allocations,

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taxpayer money to support that. So they had to

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find some way to finance the forces that are

00:23:55.730 --> 00:23:58.529
now effectively Taiwan, because when they ultimately

00:23:58.529 --> 00:24:01.390
lost, they fled to the island of Formosa, which

00:24:01.390 --> 00:24:05.000
is now Taiwan. But they they financed that initially,

00:24:05.019 --> 00:24:07.559
the War Department, the Chinese nationalists

00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:10.859
through the narcotics trade, through the basically

00:24:10.859 --> 00:24:13.839
the narcotics cultivated in the Golden Triangle.

00:24:14.299 --> 00:24:18.099
And these operations continued in Cambodia and

00:24:18.099 --> 00:24:21.839
Laos and were a big part of the JFK expansion

00:24:21.839 --> 00:24:26.019
of covert operations. To this day in Fort Bragg,

00:24:26.740 --> 00:24:29.019
the you know, the Special Operations Training

00:24:29.019 --> 00:24:32.279
Center is called the JFK. This was a massive

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expansion of small wars, covert action instead

00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:38.140
of big military action. So it was mostly spearheaded

00:24:38.140 --> 00:24:41.380
by CIA rather than DOD or Department of War.

00:24:41.880 --> 00:24:44.359
But what happened was, is Paul Halliwell, in

00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:49.119
order to be able to traffic illegal narcotics,

00:24:49.539 --> 00:24:52.279
created a bunch of these CIA banking structures.

00:24:52.740 --> 00:24:56.079
One's called Castle Bank and Trust in the Cayman

00:24:56.079 --> 00:24:59.160
Islands. Another one is Nugent Hand in Australia.

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And when you have that, you know, friendly bank

00:25:03.180 --> 00:25:08.200
that's protected, then you can move drugs. This

00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:11.619
is this overworld, underworld alliance between

00:25:11.619 --> 00:25:15.119
intelligence and organized crime, because basically

00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:19.299
every intelligence operation is a, I don't want

00:25:19.299 --> 00:25:23.220
to say every, but at the operational level, it's

00:25:23.220 --> 00:25:27.940
a crime. It's an act of sabotage. It's an act

00:25:27.940 --> 00:25:31.609
of subversion. It's an act of obstruction. It's

00:25:31.609 --> 00:25:35.490
an act of illegal surveillance. So in order to

00:25:35.490 --> 00:25:41.390
do a illegal crime, you don't want to do it yourself

00:25:41.390 --> 00:25:43.589
because then your fingerprints are on the gun.

00:25:43.930 --> 00:25:48.509
But if you know people who do illegal crimes

00:25:48.509 --> 00:25:51.930
for a living in an organized way and have experience

00:25:51.930 --> 00:25:54.970
in doing it, that allows you to be a very useful

00:25:54.970 --> 00:25:57.890
extension. And it gets justified in the name

00:25:57.890 --> 00:26:01.029
of national security. The illegal narcotics trade

00:26:01.029 --> 00:26:03.049
set up by Paul Halliwell, who would go on to

00:26:03.049 --> 00:26:06.269
be the main lawyer for Disney and set up Disney

00:26:06.269 --> 00:26:08.170
World in Orlando. You can look all this up. You

00:26:08.170 --> 00:26:10.930
can pull up Paul Halliwell's Wikipedia or you

00:26:10.930 --> 00:26:13.109
can look at the history of Disney or you can

00:26:13.109 --> 00:26:15.049
pull up Castle Bank and Trust. You can put any

00:26:15.049 --> 00:26:16.609
one of these up on screen. This is all fully

00:26:16.609 --> 00:26:22.210
declassified. And so they then took that model

00:26:22.210 --> 00:26:26.589
to South America and Latin America and the Caribbean

00:26:26.589 --> 00:26:30.140
during Operation Condor, Operation Mongoose,

00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.559
and this is part of what gave rise to the Iran

00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:37.220
Contra that spawned Jeffrey Epstein, which was

00:26:37.220 --> 00:26:41.259
the CIA got busted running the same thing it

00:26:41.259 --> 00:26:47.400
did in 1940s China, which was a drugs for cash

00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:51.200
for guns operation. You can't get enough money

00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:55.160
in USAID. In the 1940s, USAID didn't even exist.

00:26:56.699 --> 00:26:58.940
You you can't get enough money from us taxpayer

00:26:58.940 --> 00:27:01.000
dollars You can't get enough money from private

00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:04.420
donors who will draft off of the regime change

00:27:04.420 --> 00:27:07.140
for their own profit So how do you get how do

00:27:07.140 --> 00:27:09.720
you get your resistance rebels enough money?

00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:13.619
It's that usually comes down to black market

00:27:13.619 --> 00:27:17.380
trade whether that's diamonds in Africa whether

00:27:17.380 --> 00:27:20.859
that's illegal mining activities in South America

00:27:20.859 --> 00:27:24.680
or whether that's narcotics and It's the best

00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:27.359
things to use for this kind of covert financing

00:27:27.359 --> 00:27:33.119
are small fungible physical Materials that can

00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:36.740
be converted into large sums of cash You know,

00:27:36.779 --> 00:27:39.079
for example like a truck full of cocaine can

00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:42.539
fund an army you know a truck full of copper

00:27:42.539 --> 00:27:48.019
can't and So you had this state -sanctioned drug

00:27:48.019 --> 00:27:51.470
trade this state -sanctioned illegal Weapons

00:27:51.470 --> 00:27:54.670
logistics apparatus and the state -sanctioned

00:27:54.670 --> 00:27:58.450
money laundering apparatus that started in the

00:27:58.450 --> 00:28:02.190
1940s and was utilized throughout the entirety

00:28:02.190 --> 00:28:08.130
of the Cold War the on the mafia side in the

00:28:08.130 --> 00:28:12.009
night Operation gladia was this stay -behind

00:28:12.009 --> 00:28:13.950
network is what they what they said basically

00:28:13.950 --> 00:28:19.109
these were right -wing groups many or some of

00:28:19.109 --> 00:28:24.829
which were kind of Nazi adjacent who hated communism.

00:28:25.509 --> 00:28:28.069
And so even though we fought against the Nazis

00:28:28.069 --> 00:28:31.529
in Mussolini and Hitler in World War II, there

00:28:31.529 --> 00:28:38.210
was a utility to preserving a certain homegrown

00:28:38.210 --> 00:28:41.690
domestic network that really hated communism

00:28:41.690 --> 00:28:45.130
to assist us on the ground in the war against

00:28:45.130 --> 00:28:48.509
communism. And what you saw was in Operation

00:28:48.509 --> 00:28:55.910
Gladio, this was a NATO wide covert network alliance

00:28:55.910 --> 00:28:59.029
of networks, a network of networks that in basically

00:28:59.029 --> 00:29:01.329
every one of the NATO countries, there was a

00:29:01.329 --> 00:29:04.789
cell or a number of cluster cells that were set

00:29:04.789 --> 00:29:08.269
up in order to covertly influence the domestic

00:29:08.269 --> 00:29:11.009
politics of the country. And if you look at the

00:29:11.009 --> 00:29:12.529
members of these cluster cells, there's some

00:29:12.529 --> 00:29:16.470
of them. Like Silvio Berlusconi was a part of

00:29:16.470 --> 00:29:21.309
the so -called P2 Lounge that came up in the

00:29:21.309 --> 00:29:23.970
Operation Gladiophiles when the Italian government

00:29:23.970 --> 00:29:27.390
basically put all this on trial in the 1990s.

00:29:27.569 --> 00:29:29.569
And that structure is still used by intelligence

00:29:29.569 --> 00:29:33.589
today. If you go to my X feed and you look up,

00:29:33.589 --> 00:29:37.269
for example, Ann Applebaum and the thread that

00:29:37.269 --> 00:29:40.329
I did on the Integrity Initiative, if you just

00:29:40.329 --> 00:29:42.369
put... Integrity initiative and I can I can show

00:29:42.369 --> 00:29:46.670
you what these cluster cells look like And it's

00:29:46.670 --> 00:29:48.710
it's a it's fascinating to look at the organizational

00:29:48.710 --> 00:29:51.910
structure of it but I guess what I'm what I'm

00:29:51.910 --> 00:29:56.210
getting to here is with With the mob and the

00:29:56.210 --> 00:29:59.589
Vatican at the at that time That was the only

00:29:59.589 --> 00:30:01.470
game in town for offshore banking if you wanted

00:30:01.470 --> 00:30:04.450
to have a bank that had no oversight whatsoever

00:30:04.450 --> 00:30:08.589
when the British lost the Suez Canal in 1957

00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:12.400
and basically had to give up their empire, this

00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:15.559
is during decolonialization, the British Empire

00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:19.079
transitioned from a physical empire to a financial

00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:21.240
empire and moved heavily into offshore banking.

00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:25.599
That's how you got these kind of, you know, BVI,

00:30:25.740 --> 00:30:29.140
British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, you know,

00:30:29.299 --> 00:30:32.599
Jersey, man, all these kind of British offshore

00:30:32.599 --> 00:30:36.119
banking hubs. And with London as the capital

00:30:36.119 --> 00:30:40.119
of international finance, The British Empire

00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:43.240
was effectively able to maintain a comparable

00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:46.859
level of imperial vassal state control without

00:30:46.859 --> 00:30:50.420
having physical troops or physical territorial

00:30:50.420 --> 00:30:54.180
control. And so the Vatican Bank has lost a lot

00:30:54.180 --> 00:30:58.140
of its rank, I would say, in the international

00:30:58.140 --> 00:31:02.000
finance system since the 1940s because the market's

00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:03.619
so saturated now with offshore banking hubs.

00:31:04.140 --> 00:31:06.579
But that explains what's happening in this Larry

00:31:06.579 --> 00:31:12.740
Summers. Jeffrey Epstein exchange One of the

00:31:12.740 --> 00:31:16.299
weirder things about these files is there's some

00:31:16.299 --> 00:31:19.900
stuff in there that you go, okay One thing that

00:31:19.900 --> 00:31:23.400
we know happens is when something is true a bunch

00:31:23.400 --> 00:31:26.200
of stuff gets attached to it that's both not

00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:29.440
true and also preposterous that allows you to

00:31:29.440 --> 00:31:32.500
sort of Dismiss all of it together. There's a

00:31:32.500 --> 00:31:34.420
lot of people thought about that with pizza gate

00:31:34.420 --> 00:31:38.369
and there's some stuff that I saw online that

00:31:38.369 --> 00:31:41.430
was like George W. Bush was like involved in

00:31:41.430 --> 00:31:45.470
ritual sacrifice or things along those lines,

00:31:45.529 --> 00:31:50.250
like killing babies and eating people and wild

00:31:50.250 --> 00:31:54.809
shit. What do you think that stuff is? Do you

00:31:54.809 --> 00:32:01.089
think it really occurs? What I'll say is this

00:32:01.089 --> 00:32:07.400
is a bad week to be a total pizza gate denialist.

00:32:07.900 --> 00:32:10.279
You would feel a lot more comfortable about it

00:32:10.279 --> 00:32:13.619
a week ago than you would this week. I don't

00:32:13.619 --> 00:32:17.259
particularly focus or I don't wanna say care.

00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:24.200
My knowledge set on it is a lot more limited

00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:28.619
on it because I don't think it's a central crux

00:32:28.619 --> 00:32:34.299
of political influence. I don't know if it's

00:32:34.299 --> 00:32:37.740
kind of almost a inside joke in a certain way.

00:32:38.579 --> 00:32:40.960
Jeffrey Epstein himself in these emails is unbelievably

00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:47.000
trolly. He'll say things that are the kind of

00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:51.279
shitposts you say to a buddy or your brother

00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:56.180
or something that you don't mean. You're talking

00:32:56.180 --> 00:33:03.480
around cheek. But if you were a cynical out to

00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:06.519
get you person who somehow obtained that text

00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:11.519
message. You'd say, oh, look, he said it. And

00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:13.460
so so there's a lot of that going on. But the

00:33:13.460 --> 00:33:16.599
fact is, is I have seen some I've seen a lot

00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:20.680
of images shared around the time period of when

00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:25.180
Pizzagate was popping off in 2016 that all I'll

00:33:25.180 --> 00:33:29.259
say is it doesn't it doesn't look good or easily

00:33:29.259 --> 00:33:31.930
explainable at the same time. A lot of those

00:33:31.930 --> 00:33:35.630
screenshots I have not, for most of these, for

00:33:35.630 --> 00:33:37.410
the things I've posted about or that I'm talking

00:33:37.410 --> 00:33:39.430
about here, I've gone to the Justice Department

00:33:39.430 --> 00:33:41.950
file, I've looked at the file number, I've confirmed

00:33:41.950 --> 00:33:44.089
whether or not the screenshot is actually what

00:33:44.089 --> 00:33:50.289
it is. For those I have not yet, but I would

00:33:50.289 --> 00:33:55.230
not, I wouldn't feel totally confident saying

00:33:55.230 --> 00:33:58.259
there's no there there. But that's about as far

00:33:58.259 --> 00:34:00.180
as I can go on that. When you say images, what

00:34:00.180 --> 00:34:02.380
are you talking about? Well, there's a lot of,

00:34:02.500 --> 00:34:04.099
you know, if you look up pizza, for example,

00:34:04.259 --> 00:34:06.920
it's just as a keyword search, you'll see or

00:34:06.920 --> 00:34:13.059
cheese or something. It looks like in the DOJ

00:34:13.059 --> 00:34:17.579
database for these new files, you'll see a lot

00:34:17.579 --> 00:34:21.679
of things of people talking about pizza in a

00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:25.960
way that. It seems like a code. Kind of. impossible

00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:31.059
to do to a pizza. It's about, you know what I

00:34:31.059 --> 00:34:36.559
mean? But I don't, to me there's so much real

00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:39.659
world provable things in there and also so many

00:34:39.659 --> 00:34:44.820
kind of more real world implications of allegations

00:34:44.820 --> 00:34:51.760
that are made in the files that kind of, you

00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:57.280
know, should be explained. Like a common mistake

00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:59.059
that I see going around social media this week

00:34:59.059 --> 00:35:02.980
is people it kind of gets the reason that the

00:35:02.980 --> 00:35:07.099
FBI and The president was arguing that these

00:35:07.099 --> 00:35:08.460
files shouldn't be released in the first place

00:35:08.460 --> 00:35:10.000
which is that people would take things out of

00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:12.880
context and Wildly, you know and think things

00:35:12.880 --> 00:35:14.579
are true that are not because they're baseless

00:35:14.579 --> 00:35:18.019
allegations made by you know Some anonymous tipster

00:35:18.019 --> 00:35:21.030
and but but because it's in an FBI file People

00:35:21.030 --> 00:35:22.550
will think it's true. Now. I don't think that's

00:35:22.550 --> 00:35:24.670
a reason not to release these I'm extremely glad

00:35:24.670 --> 00:35:28.590
these were released What I'm saying is is I've

00:35:28.590 --> 00:35:33.570
seen that phenomenon, you know run away and and

00:35:33.570 --> 00:35:39.570
some of this I know is kind of baseless in terms

00:35:39.570 --> 00:35:43.010
of the factual evidence because some of the people

00:35:43.010 --> 00:35:46.090
One of the confidential human sources for example

00:35:46.090 --> 00:35:48.530
that is cited. You know the first day of the

00:35:48.530 --> 00:35:52.599
drop there was this kind of bombshell claim in

00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:54.179
the, I think this was probably the most viral

00:35:54.179 --> 00:35:57.780
post the first day of the DOJ release, which

00:35:57.780 --> 00:36:01.639
was a confidential human source, CHS, it means

00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:08.820
FBI informant, who the FBI internal memo describes

00:36:08.820 --> 00:36:12.599
how this confidential human source reported that

00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:16.199
Alan Dershowitz was a Mossad agent and after

00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:20.340
every meeting he, goes back and tells his FB,

00:36:20.420 --> 00:36:23.219
his Mossad handlers, you know, what what they

00:36:23.219 --> 00:36:24.940
talked about. And you go, oh, my God, it's an

00:36:24.940 --> 00:36:29.800
FBI confidential human source. The FBI wouldn't,

00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:31.840
you know, pay an informant unless they found

00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:33.739
them credible for this sort of thing. On the

00:36:33.739 --> 00:36:36.280
very next page of the files, it says President

00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:39.039
Trump. I'm paraphrasing. You can pull this up

00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:43.260
if you if you want. President Trump is controlled

00:36:43.260 --> 00:36:45.760
by the government of Israel and they have. I

00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:47.559
forget if he says they have blackmail or something

00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:50.699
to this effect. Now, I don't know whether either

00:36:50.699 --> 00:36:53.239
of those things are true or not. I don't know

00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:56.099
what, you know, any more than anybody else who's

00:36:56.099 --> 00:36:57.840
done research on this. Certainly there's a lot

00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:00.320
of overlap between Dershowitz and the Israeli

00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.780
government and high level Israeli officials.

00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:06.260
So in that sense, if that were to be reported,

00:37:06.539 --> 00:37:10.239
I don't know that it would be the... who knows

00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:12.460
about whether that's true or not, but it plays

00:37:12.460 --> 00:37:15.239
into a kind of confirmation bias that a lot of

00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:17.360
people have. And so when you see that in an FBI

00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:21.619
file, the first thing your instinct is, if that's

00:37:21.619 --> 00:37:24.239
your journalism beat, is to write all about it

00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:27.159
and get millions of views. And same thing, there's

00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:29.320
a MAGA civil war right now that's happening over

00:37:29.320 --> 00:37:34.340
issues around Israel. You say, oh my God, it's

00:37:34.340 --> 00:37:40.239
been proven, the FBI knows that, well, Ken Silva

00:37:40.239 --> 00:37:43.199
who's a journalist shortly after that published

00:37:43.199 --> 00:37:49.300
a Tweet containing a file that had much less

00:37:49.300 --> 00:37:51.760
engagement where he said actually I actually

00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:55.360
have a copy of this document and again, I'm paraphrasing

00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:59.260
here Where it matches that document file number?

00:37:59.260 --> 00:38:02.099
It's got the same text and it looks like the

00:38:02.099 --> 00:38:04.880
that confidential human source is Chuck Johnson

00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:10.130
now I saw that and I went Oh my God, because

00:38:10.130 --> 00:38:14.989
one morning I woke up to a text from that very

00:38:14.989 --> 00:38:19.489
person saying, this is about two years ago, I'd

00:38:19.489 --> 00:38:22.150
never met him, never talked to him, don't have

00:38:22.150 --> 00:38:25.610
his number. Somehow he got mine and messaged

00:38:25.610 --> 00:38:28.630
me on signal to turn myself in because I'm going

00:38:28.630 --> 00:38:35.289
to prison. He then proceeded to look up my ex

00:38:35.289 --> 00:38:38.349
-wife. and make allegations that I was a Mossad

00:38:38.349 --> 00:38:44.530
agent because she was a prostitute from a foreign

00:38:44.530 --> 00:38:48.289
country and involved in all these, you know,

00:38:48.650 --> 00:38:50.789
Mossad, black ops type things. Now he didn't

00:38:50.789 --> 00:38:53.469
even get the name right. He found a different

00:38:53.469 --> 00:38:59.010
person with a similar spelling that, you know,

00:38:59.190 --> 00:39:01.730
was, I guess, busted for prostitution or something.

00:39:02.269 --> 00:39:05.929
and then makes these giant claims on social media

00:39:05.929 --> 00:39:11.030
that, you know, I had been like married to a

00:39:11.030 --> 00:39:13.250
foreign spy prostitute or something. And then

00:39:13.250 --> 00:39:16.269
he goes on to message someone he thinks is my

00:39:16.269 --> 00:39:21.190
donor and threaten them to cut off funds because

00:39:21.190 --> 00:39:25.090
if he doesn't, then I've made the intelligence

00:39:25.090 --> 00:39:29.369
community very angry and they have deputized

00:39:29.369 --> 00:39:32.000
him. to tell the person he thought was my donor

00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:34.880
that the intelligence services of the United

00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:37.840
States of America will crush the businesses of

00:39:37.840 --> 00:39:41.420
someone he thought was my donor if he doesn't

00:39:41.420 --> 00:39:43.980
cut off the funds he thought that person was

00:39:43.980 --> 00:39:47.179
giving to me, okay? This is that confidential

00:39:47.179 --> 00:39:49.960
human source, or at least according to the reporting

00:39:49.960 --> 00:39:57.500
of Ken Silva. The level of things that are untrue

00:39:57.500 --> 00:40:02.380
about that combined with the fact that this very

00:40:02.380 --> 00:40:08.079
person is going around saying that he's not just

00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:11.960
an FBI informant, but that he actually can direct

00:40:11.960 --> 00:40:14.320
the intelligence agencies of the United States

00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:17.820
to crush someone's private practice if they don't

00:40:17.820 --> 00:40:25.719
change their discretionary donations to someone.

00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:33.489
Like, that's the person you're saying That person's,

00:40:33.489 --> 00:40:39.349
you know, comments to a FBI officer or, you know,

00:40:40.190 --> 00:40:44.050
task force prove these claims about Dershowitz

00:40:44.050 --> 00:40:48.329
and Trump. I mean, that's that's ridiculous.

00:40:48.630 --> 00:40:51.190
I know firsthand that there's zero credibility

00:40:51.190 --> 00:40:53.829
to those claims. Now, they may be true or not.

00:40:54.070 --> 00:40:57.670
But the fact is, is. You know, there's there's

00:40:57.670 --> 00:41:02.400
a lot of context. to all of these. What is just

00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:05.300
because it's said in an FBI file does not make

00:41:05.300 --> 00:41:06.920
it true. We learned that lesson in Russiagate.

00:41:07.019 --> 00:41:08.960
We learned that lesson with the Steele dossier.

00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:15.400
But I think that same sort of caution and prudence

00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:19.719
should be applied with these. And I think ultimately

00:41:19.719 --> 00:41:22.599
the truth wins out on these things. It just takes

00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:30.030
longer than you might want to. tangled. You know,

00:41:30.030 --> 00:41:33.110
the whole thing is just, I think everybody who

00:41:33.110 --> 00:41:36.130
looks at it realizes this is a rabbit hole that

00:41:36.130 --> 00:41:39.150
just goes to the center of the earth. And there's

00:41:39.150 --> 00:41:43.150
so many people involved in that. Here's the big

00:41:43.150 --> 00:41:45.789
question that people ask. If there was a Jeffrey

00:41:45.789 --> 00:41:48.610
Epstein, and it seems like all these things he

00:41:48.610 --> 00:41:50.869
was involved in, is there a Jeffrey Epstein right

00:41:50.869 --> 00:41:52.789
now that we don't know about? There's a million

00:41:52.789 --> 00:41:56.070
of them. A million of them. I mean, this is why

00:41:56.070 --> 00:42:01.010
I I find this, this is not the core of what I

00:42:01.010 --> 00:42:06.010
focus on, but I find it a really interesting

00:42:06.010 --> 00:42:08.570
field of study because it helps understand so

00:42:08.570 --> 00:42:11.429
many other U .S. government institutions and

00:42:11.429 --> 00:42:13.650
the relationship between government and private

00:42:13.650 --> 00:42:21.110
business. Jeffrey Epstein is part of a class

00:42:21.110 --> 00:42:24.230
of what are effectively professional fixers.

00:42:25.920 --> 00:42:30.219
This is a kind of class of professional who sits

00:42:30.219 --> 00:42:36.280
not really within a particular government or

00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:39.119
private sector institution, but in the kind of

00:42:39.119 --> 00:42:41.039
sticky layer between them that connects them

00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:45.820
all. And I would say that, for example, people

00:42:45.820 --> 00:42:49.039
like Mark Rich, Bruce Rappaport, and I can go

00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:50.480
through all these figures and who they are, Robert

00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:55.039
Mayhew and these types, are Just good case studies

00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:59.320
in how the intelligence world the business community

00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:02.980
You know uses out look let's take an example

00:43:02.980 --> 00:43:07.039
of Bruce Rappaport and this is a You can pull

00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:10.960
up on screen if if you want. There's a great

00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:15.900
article. I think it's called I Think it's from

00:43:15.900 --> 00:43:20.300
1988 or 1991. It's called the intro intrigue

00:43:20.300 --> 00:43:26.679
in high places oil pipeline, Iraq, and then just

00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:29.699
Bruce Rappaport. It's R -A -P -P. Yeah, here

00:43:29.699 --> 00:43:31.840
you go. A pipeline deal intrigue in high places.

00:43:32.460 --> 00:43:34.920
And I'll describe what happens here in a second.

00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:36.599
In fact, there's a great YouTube video on this

00:43:36.599 --> 00:43:42.159
as well. If you look up just on YouTube, Bruce

00:43:42.159 --> 00:43:45.960
Rappaport, 1988, there's a great kind of couple

00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:48.619
minute summary of all this. But effectively what

00:43:48.619 --> 00:43:54.960
happened was And let me start this by just, Jeffrey

00:43:54.960 --> 00:44:00.579
Epstein got to Bear Stearns in 1966, I'm sorry,

00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:06.579
1976, and then worked there until 1980. Sorry,

00:44:06.579 --> 00:44:09.239
just because you have it on screen. Maybe I'll

00:44:09.239 --> 00:44:10.900
go through this first and then I'll do the, because

00:44:10.900 --> 00:44:12.940
the Jeffrey Epstein connections. So what happened

00:44:12.940 --> 00:44:16.500
here was, you had the Iran -Iraq War from 1980

00:44:16.500 --> 00:44:20.820
to 1988. And Henry Kissinger had a really great,

00:44:20.860 --> 00:44:22.820
quote about this, because he asked, what is the

00:44:22.820 --> 00:44:24.400
US government strategy on this? Because it's

00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:30.599
very convoluted. And why are we giving weapons

00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:34.800
to Iran when the Iranian revolution just happened

00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:41.559
in 1979 that overthrew what was a US government

00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:44.639
-friendly government that was partially installed

00:44:44.639 --> 00:44:49.679
by the CIA in 1953? we've now declared an international

00:44:49.679 --> 00:44:53.019
arms embargo on them. We're basically at war

00:44:53.019 --> 00:44:56.079
with the Ayatollahs. Why are we giving them weapons

00:44:56.079 --> 00:45:00.519
and helping them defeat Iraq? And the issue was

00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:09.000
we were also in a kind of war over regional hegemony

00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:13.460
and oil with Iraq. And so Henry Kissinger's quote

00:45:13.460 --> 00:45:15.599
was, my only wish is that both sides would lose,

00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:19.980
could lose. And so what happened was is because

00:45:19.980 --> 00:45:23.179
we didn't want Iraq to take over Iran and become

00:45:23.179 --> 00:45:26.460
effectively bigger than Saudi Arabia in the region,

00:45:27.619 --> 00:45:32.019
we were we were funding the and giving weapons

00:45:32.019 --> 00:45:35.159
to Iran to try to fend off the much bigger Iraqi

00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:41.400
army. And then at a certain point in this, we

00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:44.460
began to back Iraq. We went back and forth supporting

00:45:44.460 --> 00:45:51.019
Iran, Iraq. And so Iraq, because of the embargoes

00:45:51.019 --> 00:45:54.880
on it, wanted to build a pipeline to get its

00:45:54.880 --> 00:45:57.239
oil out, and it was going to pass through Jordan,

00:45:57.280 --> 00:45:59.579
and it was going to abut against the border of

00:45:59.579 --> 00:46:08.019
Israel. And a major CIA contractor and CIA -connected

00:46:08.019 --> 00:46:10.739
private business called Bechtel, highly, highly

00:46:10.739 --> 00:46:15.039
influential company, There's been many, many,

00:46:15.059 --> 00:46:18.940
many books written on Bechtel some of that. And

00:46:18.940 --> 00:46:21.119
Bechtel is alive and well today. If there was

00:46:21.119 --> 00:46:23.179
a saga, for example, around the Stanford Air

00:46:23.179 --> 00:46:26.300
Net Observatory, if around the censorship industrial

00:46:26.300 --> 00:46:28.579
complex, when I when I visited the Stanford Air

00:46:28.579 --> 00:46:31.460
Net Observatory and I went to the courtyard courtyard

00:46:31.460 --> 00:46:33.659
is sponsored by Bechtel. It's I think it's called

00:46:33.659 --> 00:46:37.239
the Bechtel courtyard. But but what happened

00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:44.969
was is the. Bechtel was. promised by Iraq a billion

00:46:44.969 --> 00:46:49.949
dollar contract in 1980s money for constructing

00:46:49.949 --> 00:46:54.090
this pipeline. And the Central Intelligence Agency

00:46:54.090 --> 00:46:56.190
and the White House National Security Council,

00:46:56.489 --> 00:46:59.170
both for geostrategic reasons, wanted this pipeline

00:46:59.170 --> 00:47:02.789
built. The problem was they were afraid the Israeli

00:47:02.789 --> 00:47:05.030
government was going to sabotage the pipeline

00:47:05.030 --> 00:47:11.699
because Iraq was very hostile to Israel. And

00:47:11.699 --> 00:47:14.380
there was a lot of tension between the Iraqi

00:47:14.380 --> 00:47:16.260
government and the Israeli government. And they

00:47:16.260 --> 00:47:19.179
were afraid that if Bechtel got this contract

00:47:19.179 --> 00:47:23.599
and built this pipeline, that Israel would, these

00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:26.920
pipelines are very fragile. And because it passes

00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:30.619
close to it, it's very possible that that would

00:47:30.619 --> 00:47:32.579
happen and it would destroy both the CIA's goal

00:47:32.579 --> 00:47:36.960
and the private profiteer Bechtel's goal. So

00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:42.050
how do you solve that problem? What the CIA did

00:47:42.050 --> 00:47:45.789
is what the National Security Council, which

00:47:45.789 --> 00:47:48.989
is the interagency that the CIA reports do, did

00:47:48.989 --> 00:47:52.829
is they engaged a private fixer named Bruce Rappaport,

00:47:53.329 --> 00:47:56.989
who was a Swiss billionaire with close ties to

00:47:56.989 --> 00:48:00.530
the Israeli government, to backchannel with the

00:48:00.530 --> 00:48:04.170
Israeli government some sort of secret agreement

00:48:04.170 --> 00:48:08.909
that would guarantee that they would not sabotage

00:48:08.909 --> 00:48:12.860
the pipeline. And because the attorney general

00:48:12.860 --> 00:48:15.519
of the United States, again, think about this

00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:18.920
as well. As I'm saying this, think about Jeffrey

00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:20.420
Epstein and think about the character of Bill

00:48:20.420 --> 00:48:23.139
Barr, for example, who started his career for

00:48:23.139 --> 00:48:25.840
seven years at the CIA, was highly involved in

00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:28.099
the CIA's Iran -Contra and then was attorney

00:48:28.099 --> 00:48:33.139
general both in the 1990s during the Epstein

00:48:33.139 --> 00:48:37.039
connected BCCI scandal and the when Jeffrey Epstein

00:48:37.039 --> 00:48:41.870
killed himself or whatever happened to him. So

00:48:41.870 --> 00:48:47.929
what happens is Bruce Rappaport does indeed use

00:48:47.929 --> 00:48:50.909
his contacts with the Israeli government to strike

00:48:50.909 --> 00:48:56.250
an agreement that then would allow the project

00:48:56.250 --> 00:48:59.650
to be greenlit, but it triggers a special prosecutor's

00:48:59.650 --> 00:49:01.989
investigation of the attorney general himself,

00:49:02.369 --> 00:49:07.889
Ed Meese, because one of his friends was alleged

00:49:07.889 --> 00:49:11.940
to be in on the deal. So they they argued that

00:49:11.940 --> 00:49:15.500
effectively there were that they that through

00:49:15.500 --> 00:49:18.559
Bruce Rappaport the Attorney General was striking

00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:21.619
a secret agreement with Israel to profit himself

00:49:21.619 --> 00:49:27.719
a massive conflict of interest and What what

00:49:27.719 --> 00:49:30.099
ended up happening is Bruce Rappaport Rappaport

00:49:30.099 --> 00:49:33.219
step forward and said no no no it wasn't to profit

00:49:33.219 --> 00:49:36.820
the the terms weren't to profit the friend It

00:49:36.820 --> 00:49:39.260
was the the terms we secretly reached with Israel's

00:49:39.260 --> 00:49:41.460
that they were going to get like a 30 % cut on

00:49:41.460 --> 00:49:43.739
the revenue of the pipeline and that's what secured

00:49:43.739 --> 00:49:47.940
the buy -in but the fact is is Bruce Rappaport

00:49:47.940 --> 00:49:54.219
was not This now the other part of this is that

00:49:54.219 --> 00:49:57.960
the National Security Council Told the basically

00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:00.619
the overseas development arm of the US government

00:50:00.619 --> 00:50:06.699
formal US government agency to to put American

00:50:06.699 --> 00:50:10.440
taxpayer funds to help subsidize the pipeline,

00:50:11.440 --> 00:50:15.980
the Bechtel pipeline. And that government agency

00:50:15.980 --> 00:50:19.480
did not want to put up something like $400 million

00:50:19.480 --> 00:50:23.039
of taxpayer funds on it because they thought

00:50:23.039 --> 00:50:25.960
Bruce Rappaport was a very shady Epstein -like

00:50:25.960 --> 00:50:30.000
figure who had all sorts of sorted details about

00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:33.730
his own past. So that government agency queried

00:50:33.730 --> 00:50:36.170
the CIA for all records about Bruce Rappaport.

00:50:36.849 --> 00:50:40.150
And the CIA gave them a limited hangout. They

00:50:40.150 --> 00:50:41.949
said, oh, you know, we only have a few documents

00:50:41.949 --> 00:50:45.510
that are responsive to it and no red flags. As

00:50:45.510 --> 00:50:48.449
it turned out, what the special prosecutor compelled

00:50:48.449 --> 00:50:51.989
from the CIA is that they had a whole dirty dossier

00:50:51.989 --> 00:50:56.130
on Bruce Rappaport. And if they had given that

00:50:56.130 --> 00:50:59.070
to the US government agency, There couldn't have

00:50:59.070 --> 00:51:01.650
been support for the pipeline. Now, after all

00:51:01.650 --> 00:51:03.170
the scandal, the pipeline ended up not being

00:51:03.170 --> 00:51:07.829
built. But the point is, here you have the same

00:51:07.829 --> 00:51:13.329
type of person as Jeffrey Epstein, the same regions

00:51:13.329 --> 00:51:16.949
and countries that are involved in a significant

00:51:16.949 --> 00:51:20.690
part of the Epstein saga. You have the same structure

00:51:20.690 --> 00:51:23.030
of the intelligence community, private businesses,

00:51:24.710 --> 00:51:26.829
and backchannel deals with government officials.

00:51:27.210 --> 00:51:33.369
But because there was no 201 file on Bruce Rappaport,

00:51:33.650 --> 00:51:37.769
he was not formerly a CIA asset. He was he was,

00:51:37.889 --> 00:51:41.150
you know, what's called a liaison, a contact,

00:51:41.530 --> 00:51:45.070
a facilitator, a friend of the station doesn't

00:51:45.070 --> 00:51:47.449
work for the CIA. He's got his own hedge fund.

00:51:47.570 --> 00:51:50.409
He's got his own, you know, basically finance.

00:51:51.210 --> 00:51:54.110
You know, he'll invest in commodities or foreign

00:51:54.110 --> 00:51:57.590
exchange or private portfolio companies. But

00:51:57.590 --> 00:52:00.849
sometimes he'll work with the CIA. Sometimes

00:52:00.849 --> 00:52:02.909
he won't. Depends on whether it's good for him.

00:52:04.150 --> 00:52:06.809
And in this case, he thought it was good for

00:52:06.809 --> 00:52:10.130
him to take this. Who knows what cut he himself

00:52:10.130 --> 00:52:16.139
got on it. But the fact is is Here you have the

00:52:16.139 --> 00:52:19.059
same type of opera. You have every layer of this

00:52:19.059 --> 00:52:21.980
from the Justice Department to the CIA to the

00:52:21.980 --> 00:52:25.380
private financiers to the private companies to

00:52:25.380 --> 00:52:29.820
real world geopolitical action. And this appears

00:52:29.820 --> 00:52:34.400
in my view of it to be exactly the model that

00:52:34.400 --> 00:52:39.480
Jeffrey Epstein himself replicated and was on

00:52:39.480 --> 00:52:42.840
parallel track with for his whole career. and

00:52:42.840 --> 00:52:46.000
I can get into that, but does that make sense

00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:49.380
in terms of like, this type of figure exists

00:52:49.380 --> 00:52:52.960
basically in every country, in every industry,

00:52:53.420 --> 00:52:58.460
and they're not all as prominent as Epstein,

00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:00.659
but I would argue people like Mark Rich and at

00:53:00.659 --> 00:53:04.400
the time Bruce Rappaport kind of were. They don't

00:53:04.400 --> 00:53:07.980
all have these... Child sex trafficking and that's

00:53:07.980 --> 00:53:10.099
the thing type things this the thing is like

00:53:10.099 --> 00:53:13.519
what he was connected with It makes me wonder

00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:17.800
like if he didn't have that Sick thing where

00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:20.719
he liked underage girls like if he'd never gotten

00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:24.239
arrested what which was what? 2008 or something,

00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:27.539
but when did he initially get arrested? 2006

00:53:27.539 --> 00:53:31.139
but 2006 but he was in the plea deal was 2008

00:53:31.139 --> 00:53:34.420
so if that hadn't happened like if you just got

00:53:34.420 --> 00:53:39.449
a guy who's getting of age prostitutes. We probably

00:53:39.449 --> 00:53:45.110
never hear about this. Yeah. And this episode

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of a website or domain. That's crazy and you

00:54:21.980 --> 00:54:27.179
can imagine very easily Why? Because Epstein

00:54:27.179 --> 00:54:29.699
was involved in fraudulent financial activities

00:54:29.699 --> 00:54:34.300
his entire career He was under SEC investigation

00:54:34.300 --> 00:54:40.659
at Bear Stearns in 1980 when he was Involved

00:54:40.659 --> 00:54:42.659
in a deal. I think was st. Joe's mineral company,

00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:47.079
which is Owned by Seagram's which is you know

00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:52.360
owned by the Brompton family He got in trouble

00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:54.719
with the SEC at that time. As soon as he got

00:54:54.719 --> 00:54:56.559
in trouble, he left Bear Stearns and went out

00:54:56.559 --> 00:54:59.940
on his own, but then worked effectively at Bear

00:54:59.940 --> 00:55:03.260
Stearns off the book for the next decade, according

00:55:03.260 --> 00:55:06.880
to his own testimony. He had a continuous relationship

00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:10.199
with Bear Stearns for, I think he said 31 years.

00:55:10.340 --> 00:55:14.719
It was basically from the moment, from the 1970s,

00:55:14.860 --> 00:55:19.019
1976 until 2007, 2008 when Bear Stearns collapsed.

00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:25.400
while Jeffrey Epstein was in jail. But then Jeffrey

00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:30.559
Epstein, it appears to me almost impossible that

00:55:30.559 --> 00:55:33.639
Jeffrey Epstein was not working on BCCI pipeline

00:55:33.639 --> 00:55:36.519
deals while he was at Bear Stearns. Bear Stearns

00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:43.940
was one of the three biggest clearinghouses for

00:55:43.940 --> 00:55:46.800
BCCI transactions. BCCI is the Bank of Credit

00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:49.280
and Commerce International. Sometimes people

00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:51.519
call it the Bank of Crooks and Criminals International.

00:55:52.980 --> 00:55:57.840
It's an incredible saga of CIA banking gone wrong.

00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:02.400
It's a bank that was started in Pakistan in 1972

00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:09.420
and then grew to be the CIA's main way to covertly

00:56:09.420 --> 00:56:14.820
back the Mujahideen against the Russians. during

00:56:14.820 --> 00:56:17.820
the Cold War. So we backed Osama bin Laden, the

00:56:17.820 --> 00:56:23.820
CIA. We backed the Islamic Mujahideen, the radicals

00:56:23.820 --> 00:56:28.440
who became al -Qaeda and ISIS with billions of

00:56:28.440 --> 00:56:34.320
dollars of CIA and MI6 and Israeli and Saudi

00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:39.840
facilitated, you know, co -support and financial

00:56:39.840 --> 00:56:44.460
funds in order to do a Cold War operation, just

00:56:44.460 --> 00:56:48.420
like we talked about with strange bedfellows,

00:56:48.900 --> 00:56:54.880
backing right -wing organized crime to stop left

00:56:54.880 --> 00:56:58.139
-wing communism. We did the same thing in Afghanistan

00:56:58.139 --> 00:57:05.579
through the Pakistan -Afghanistan border to covertly

00:57:05.579 --> 00:57:08.460
run guns to the Mujahideen. In fact, there's

00:57:08.460 --> 00:57:11.500
a great YouTube video that I always like to play

00:57:11.500 --> 00:57:14.699
so that you can see it for yourself. It's really

00:57:14.699 --> 00:57:16.980
short. If you can look up 1979, it's a big new

00:57:16.980 --> 00:57:21.780
Brzezinski dropping out of a helicopter to tell

00:57:21.780 --> 00:57:26.360
the Mujahideen that both God and the United States

00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:29.239
government is on their side. And the reason this

00:57:29.239 --> 00:57:32.539
clip I always think is so fun to play is because

00:57:32.539 --> 00:57:35.920
this was the very moment in 1979 that Jeffrey

00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:39.599
Epstein appears to have been involved in the

00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:41.480
BCCI financing of this very operation. So if

00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:43.400
you turn the volume up and you start at the beginning.

00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:50.300
U .S. National Security Advisor Brzezinski flew

00:57:50.300 --> 00:57:53.079
to Pakistan to set about rallying resistance.

00:57:54.119 --> 00:57:56.960
He wanted to arm the Mujahideen without revealing

00:57:56.960 --> 00:58:00.860
America's role. On the Afghan border near the

00:58:00.860 --> 00:58:03.940
Khyber Pass, he urged the soldiers of God to

00:58:03.940 --> 00:58:08.710
redouble their efforts. of their deep belief

00:58:08.710 --> 00:58:12.369
in God and we are confident that their struggle

00:58:12.369 --> 00:58:20.349
will succeed. That land over there is yours.

00:58:21.190 --> 00:58:24.510
You'll go back to it one day because your fight

00:58:24.510 --> 00:58:27.510
will prevail and you'll have your homes and your

00:58:27.510 --> 00:58:30.650
mosques back again because your cause is right

00:58:30.650 --> 00:58:37.409
and God is on your side. Now that is That is

00:58:37.409 --> 00:58:39.789
the National Security Advisor of the United States

00:58:39.789 --> 00:58:42.130
of America. The National Security Advisor is

00:58:42.130 --> 00:58:44.710
the highest post in the cabinet. It is the person

00:58:44.710 --> 00:58:49.190
the president talks to every day. All intelligence,

00:58:49.989 --> 00:58:52.769
military, and statecraft goes through the National

00:58:52.769 --> 00:58:56.750
Security Advisor. That is the numero uno. And

00:58:56.750 --> 00:59:00.449
he personally, in 1979, this didn't come out

00:59:00.449 --> 00:59:03.150
until years later, but we were covertly doing

00:59:03.150 --> 00:59:06.550
this. So to do a covert operation, and this is

00:59:06.550 --> 00:59:09.030
why I focus on the money side of Epstein from

00:59:09.030 --> 00:59:14.010
the 1970s to present, because the money in any

00:59:14.010 --> 00:59:16.670
covert operation is the most essential part.

00:59:16.710 --> 00:59:20.230
It's the only thing that is irreplaceable and

00:59:20.230 --> 00:59:22.070
that if you don't have it, everything goes away.

00:59:22.429 --> 00:59:27.269
You lose one person, find another one. You know,

00:59:27.389 --> 00:59:31.510
you lose one, you know, logistics hub can create

00:59:31.510 --> 00:59:34.099
another one with money. You lose money. You lose

00:59:34.099 --> 00:59:36.179
everything. You lose your ability to pay your

00:59:36.179 --> 00:59:38.719
informants. You lose your ability to bribe government

00:59:38.719 --> 00:59:43.179
officials. You lose your ability to win the support

00:59:43.179 --> 00:59:49.179
of local institutions. We lost Vietnam. Not really

00:59:49.179 --> 00:59:53.659
so much because we lost, you know, at the kinetic

00:59:53.659 --> 00:59:55.639
war level, but because we lost the ability to

00:59:55.639 --> 00:59:58.860
fund it because it got defunded. So we literally

00:59:58.860 --> 01:00:02.440
couldn't do it anymore. And. There's another

01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:04.739
great clip just to show how sophisticated CIA

01:00:04.739 --> 01:00:08.059
money laundering was even by the 1960s. Sorry,

01:00:08.179 --> 01:00:10.840
I'll stop doing this after, you know, running

01:00:10.840 --> 01:00:12.920
around clip to clip after this or I'll chill

01:00:12.920 --> 01:00:15.960
on it. But if you go to my X -Count, you can

01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:19.800
also find this on YouTube. There's a great, I

01:00:19.800 --> 01:00:23.239
believe it was CBS in the 1960s. It's called

01:00:23.239 --> 01:00:26.230
In the Pay. I think it's called In the Pay of

01:00:26.230 --> 01:00:29.409
the CIA. But if you type in CIA money laundering,

01:00:29.769 --> 01:00:32.750
you'll see this great clip about how sophisticated

01:00:32.750 --> 01:00:35.889
CIA money laundering was already by the 1950s

01:00:35.889 --> 01:00:43.570
and 60s. Because everything the CIA does has

01:00:43.570 --> 01:00:47.550
to be laundered. It's a spy agency. If it writes

01:00:47.550 --> 01:00:52.849
a check, if it doesn't conceal the origins of

01:00:52.849 --> 01:00:58.730
the money, gigs up so everything that is CIA

01:00:58.730 --> 01:01:02.869
has to move through some sort of money laundering

01:01:02.869 --> 01:01:09.570
mechanism well, you know the kind of I guess

01:01:09.570 --> 01:01:13.949
Borrow a phrase from from the president somebody's

01:01:13.949 --> 01:01:18.210
doing the money laundering You need a you need

01:01:18.210 --> 01:01:21.449
outside contacts who do not work at the agency

01:01:21.659 --> 01:01:24.539
or necessarily for the agency to facilitate that

01:01:24.539 --> 01:01:27.460
money laundering. And that was done through,

01:01:27.579 --> 01:01:30.860
for example, the Pakistanis with BCCI, as well

01:01:30.860 --> 01:01:34.420
as contacts in London. That is what I believe

01:01:34.420 --> 01:01:37.260
Jeffrey Epstein was doing his entire career after

01:01:37.260 --> 01:01:40.179
that, from Towers Financial to his tenure with

01:01:40.179 --> 01:01:43.880
Leslie Wexner to kind of the way I think that

01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:45.780
he helped model the Clinton Foundation itself

01:01:45.780 --> 01:01:50.250
with the Clintons in the early 2000s. And his

01:01:50.250 --> 01:01:54.869
expertise in that, I think, is what made him

01:01:54.869 --> 01:01:57.489
useful. I really don't know, well, it's more

01:01:57.489 --> 01:02:02.230
the connections of, I guess, donors and billionaires

01:02:02.230 --> 01:02:03.670
around him that made him the most useful. But

01:02:03.670 --> 01:02:07.010
the fact is, he specialized. When he went out

01:02:07.010 --> 01:02:09.250
on his own, formerly he leaves Bear Stearns in

01:02:09.250 --> 01:02:13.170
1981 and starts a one -man group called Intercontinental

01:02:13.170 --> 01:02:16.349
Assets Group out of his New York City apartment.

01:02:16.409 --> 01:02:19.579
He's not even 30 years old. Right away he gets

01:02:19.579 --> 01:02:22.840
big -level clients like Adnan Khashoggi who is

01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:25.420
the at the time was alleged to be the world's

01:02:25.420 --> 01:02:29.519
richest man he was the Saudi arms dealer and

01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:32.280
to give an impression of how significant this

01:02:32.280 --> 01:02:39.900
figure was in the weapons trade he was he He

01:02:39.900 --> 01:02:44.800
earned more in commissions from Lockheed Martin

01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:48.780
Boeing And I think one of the other big military

01:02:48.780 --> 01:02:51.460
contractors then every other commission's agent

01:02:51.460 --> 01:02:55.420
in the entire world combined That's why you know

01:02:55.420 --> 01:02:57.619
the rumors that he was the world's richest man

01:02:57.619 --> 01:02:59.960
He in fact we actually had legislation passed

01:02:59.960 --> 01:03:02.340
because of how influential he was. He was the

01:03:02.340 --> 01:03:07.420
one who in 1983 Flew to the National Security

01:03:07.420 --> 01:03:12.420
Council to the White House to Orchestrate the

01:03:12.420 --> 01:03:15.500
Iran -Contra affair. He was the Saudi middleman

01:03:17.179 --> 01:03:20.039
that was part of this operation where the United

01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:24.960
States used the Saudi middleman Adnan Khashoggi

01:03:24.960 --> 01:03:32.260
to run guns to Israeli contacts to smuggle into

01:03:32.260 --> 01:03:36.260
Iran to fight off the Iraqis. I know it's a bit

01:03:36.260 --> 01:03:37.960
of a long sequence, but effectively you can think

01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:39.400
of it as the United States and Israel, Saudi

01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:45.539
Arabia in the middle. Now, Adnan Khashoggi was

01:03:45.820 --> 01:03:50.500
one of the major clients of the CIA's BCCI bank.

01:03:51.019 --> 01:03:56.820
And he was the host of the CIA's offshore operation

01:03:56.820 --> 01:04:00.340
that was created in 1976 called the Safari Club.

01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:06.000
In 1975, 1976, when the CIA started getting handcuffs

01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:07.860
put on it with the church committee hearings,

01:04:09.639 --> 01:04:11.199
Jeffrey Epstein starts his career at Bear Stearns

01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:15.800
in 1976. The very moment of the biggest shakeup

01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:20.400
of the CIA and CIA history. At that moment, the

01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:22.920
church committee hearings were ongoing and the

01:04:22.920 --> 01:04:27.880
public was seeing, you know, Colby and Angleton

01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:31.320
holding up a heart attack gun, you know, how

01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:33.579
the CIA can kill someone and make it look like

01:04:33.579 --> 01:04:36.400
they died organically of a heart attack. Operation

01:04:36.400 --> 01:04:39.519
Chaos had just broke about the CIA funding student

01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:42.079
groups on American college campuses. COINTEL

01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:46.760
broke. MK ultra broke it was one house of horrors

01:04:46.760 --> 01:04:50.340
after another on everybody's TV that only had

01:04:50.340 --> 01:04:54.840
three news stations and So Democrats were completely

01:04:54.840 --> 01:04:58.559
fired up about getting rid of the CIA or putting

01:04:58.559 --> 01:05:00.460
massive handcuffs on it Which is which is what

01:05:00.460 --> 01:05:03.659
they did. They created effectively. What's now

01:05:03.659 --> 01:05:05.940
this Senate and House Intelligence Committee

01:05:05.940 --> 01:05:09.579
so there's oversight of the CIA by the the people's

01:05:09.579 --> 01:05:13.659
representatives the The first year Carter was

01:05:13.659 --> 01:05:16.599
in office in 1977 went through the what was called

01:05:16.599 --> 01:05:19.500
the Halloween massacre fired 30 % of all CIA

01:05:19.500 --> 01:05:25.079
operations personnel they massively cut funding

01:05:25.079 --> 01:05:31.119
and So in response to this you had a set of stakeholders

01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:34.300
who wanted that CIA dirty work to still be doable

01:05:34.300 --> 01:05:36.280
But they didn't have the legal authorization

01:05:36.280 --> 01:05:38.960
to run it out of the CIA So what they did is

01:05:38.960 --> 01:05:41.000
they took the same group of international partners

01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:42.980
that they had been that the CIA had been working

01:05:42.980 --> 01:05:47.880
with that includes Saudi Arabia Israel the UK

01:05:47.880 --> 01:05:51.460
France at the time Iran because this was before

01:05:51.460 --> 01:05:54.659
the 1979 Iranian Revolution they were all part

01:05:54.659 --> 01:05:56.519
of this thing called the Safari Club which got

01:05:56.519 --> 01:06:00.840
its name from the Mount Safari it was basically

01:06:00.840 --> 01:06:04.280
a resort club in Kenya, which was the main hub

01:06:05.039 --> 01:06:07.420
Just like Colombia, for example, is kind of the

01:06:07.420 --> 01:06:10.079
main was the main US government hub for logistics

01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:13.760
it was kind of a foothold for our ability to

01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:17.739
do work in Venezuela or Guatemala or Nicaragua

01:06:17.739 --> 01:06:21.719
or Brazil in Africa Kenya was our main stronghold

01:06:21.719 --> 01:06:25.260
and so but I like a show you ran that this was

01:06:25.260 --> 01:06:30.340
basically a seven eight country joint covert

01:06:30.340 --> 01:06:36.489
operations intelligence network and it was informal,

01:06:36.909 --> 01:06:40.969
it wasn't technically the CIA, and it was set

01:06:40.969 --> 01:06:43.190
up, you can pull the Wikipedia for this actually,

01:06:43.469 --> 01:06:45.010
just so you don't need to take my word for it,

01:06:45.150 --> 01:06:48.369
like literally the sanitized Wikipedia will tell

01:06:48.369 --> 01:06:52.190
you everything that I'm saying here, and it ended

01:06:52.190 --> 01:06:55.829
up, that network ended up becoming one of the

01:06:55.829 --> 01:07:00.940
main, yeah, so if you start at the top. You'll

01:07:00.940 --> 01:07:02.960
see that there it is on the right this far club.

01:07:02.980 --> 01:07:05.059
It was a covert alliance of intelligence services

01:07:05.059 --> 01:07:07.780
formed in 1976 that ran clandestine operations

01:07:07.780 --> 01:07:10.340
in Africa now what they're leaving out here is

01:07:10.340 --> 01:07:14.139
that it was also Asia played a huge role in Pakistan

01:07:14.139 --> 01:07:18.039
and Afghanistan and the like but these were all

01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:22.679
these different countries Attempt to offset the

01:07:22.679 --> 01:07:25.139
restrictions that the Democrats had put on the

01:07:25.139 --> 01:07:31.639
CIA when Reagan gets back to power in 1981 You

01:07:31.639 --> 01:07:33.139
still have these handcuffs on the on the CIA.

01:07:33.159 --> 01:07:34.960
You still have the Democrats controlling the

01:07:34.960 --> 01:07:39.239
House of Representatives the Democrats Did you

01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:41.019
know so there was an international arms embargo?

01:07:41.460 --> 01:07:44.099
First of all in 1979 the Iranian Revolution happens

01:07:44.099 --> 01:07:47.599
and it's blamed on the CIA being cut back the

01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:53.599
CIA helped install the Shah in 1953 They argued

01:07:53.599 --> 01:07:56.559
that if Jimmy Carter hadn't destroyed the CIA

01:07:56.559 --> 01:08:00.480
We would still have Iran as a friendly country

01:08:00.539 --> 01:08:02.800
We could have stopped this. We could have nipped

01:08:02.800 --> 01:08:05.099
it in the bud. We could have had people on the

01:08:05.099 --> 01:08:07.659
ground. It's Jimmy Carter's fault that he cut

01:08:07.659 --> 01:08:10.260
the CIA that we're in this disaster with the

01:08:10.260 --> 01:08:13.079
world's third largest reserve of oil and gas

01:08:13.079 --> 01:08:17.859
and this hugely geostrategic country now being

01:08:17.859 --> 01:08:22.000
an enemy of America rather than a friend. So

01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:24.100
an international arms embargo was put on Iran,

01:08:24.100 --> 01:08:28.529
but then Iraq threatened to invade it. And we

01:08:28.529 --> 01:08:31.550
didn't want Iraq to take it over. So we had to

01:08:31.550 --> 01:08:34.329
get we had to do something illegal if we wanted

01:08:34.329 --> 01:08:37.529
to help Iran. And it was against international

01:08:37.529 --> 01:08:39.710
law to give them weapons. But if we didn't give

01:08:39.710 --> 01:08:43.710
them weapons, it was perceived massive geostrategic

01:08:43.710 --> 01:08:46.510
geopolitical earthquake that we'd lived with

01:08:46.510 --> 01:08:51.310
for centuries. So you had to do one illegal action

01:08:51.310 --> 01:08:53.909
with with the gun running. And then there was

01:08:53.909 --> 01:08:57.579
a inner party dispute. The Democrats. At that

01:08:57.579 --> 01:09:04.600
time, the majority did not want to do intervention

01:09:04.600 --> 01:09:08.960
in Nicaragua. There was an imparty power called

01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:13.939
the Sandinista government, and there was a rebel

01:09:13.939 --> 01:09:17.439
faction called the Contras, and Republican donors

01:09:17.439 --> 01:09:20.939
and stakeholders had interests in Nicaragua and

01:09:20.939 --> 01:09:24.399
wanted to help the Contras overthrow the Sandinista

01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:27.609
government. but there was a party dispute. Democrat

01:09:27.609 --> 01:09:30.750
donors didn't profit from that and they, at the

01:09:30.750 --> 01:09:33.609
time, had a fairly robust anti -imperialism kind

01:09:33.609 --> 01:09:37.210
of mindset and were sick of CIA regime change

01:09:37.210 --> 01:09:39.829
by the early 1980s after everything that was

01:09:39.829 --> 01:09:42.729
disclosed in just the previous years. So Republicans

01:09:42.729 --> 01:09:45.069
wanted to overthrow the Nicaraguan governments.

01:09:45.430 --> 01:09:48.350
Democrats didn't. Democrats had a House majority

01:09:48.350 --> 01:09:50.710
and they passed something called the Bowlin Amendment,

01:09:51.149 --> 01:09:53.569
which forbade any U .S. government funds from

01:09:53.569 --> 01:09:57.460
going to support the Contras. So this put the

01:09:57.460 --> 01:09:59.920
Republicans in a pickle. By the way, this is

01:09:59.920 --> 01:10:02.439
what's happening kind of today around Ukraine.

01:10:02.600 --> 01:10:05.380
If you flip the parties, 100 % of Democrats vote

01:10:05.380 --> 01:10:08.399
for Ukraine funding. The Republican Party is

01:10:08.399 --> 01:10:11.239
split about it. This is the inverse of that was

01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:13.800
happening in the early 1980s. 100 % of Republicans

01:10:13.800 --> 01:10:17.699
wanted to fund the Contras against what they

01:10:17.699 --> 01:10:22.039
called the Soviet aligned Sandinistas. And the

01:10:22.039 --> 01:10:25.640
Democrats were split. But they successfully passed

01:10:25.640 --> 01:10:27.800
this bowling amendment. So the CIA was in a pickle.

01:10:28.840 --> 01:10:34.220
How do you run guns to Iran when it's against

01:10:34.220 --> 01:10:37.060
international law? And how do you fund the Contras

01:10:37.060 --> 01:10:40.340
when it's illegal to spend U .S. government money

01:10:40.340 --> 01:10:47.819
to fund them? And so what they came up with is

01:10:47.819 --> 01:10:49.859
effectively the structure. I think it's the most

01:10:49.859 --> 01:10:53.460
useful structure for understanding. American

01:10:53.460 --> 01:10:55.880
statecraft and intelligence activity to this

01:10:55.880 --> 01:10:59.920
day What what they came up with is what they

01:10:59.920 --> 01:11:03.680
called a structure called the enterprise which

01:11:03.680 --> 01:11:07.699
the CIA director Bill Casey referred to as a

01:11:07.699 --> 01:11:12.420
private self -sustained off -the -shelf Standalone

01:11:12.420 --> 01:11:15.680
entity that did not exist within the US government,

01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:20.989
but it's but was instead it comprised The money

01:11:20.989 --> 01:11:26.010
came from outside fixers who would then effectively

01:11:26.010 --> 01:11:30.569
channel donor money and black market trade to

01:11:30.569 --> 01:11:36.130
fund the Contras So the money didn't come from

01:11:36.130 --> 01:11:38.649
US taxpayers. It didn't come from USAID It didn't

01:11:38.649 --> 01:11:41.789
come from an allocation from the US Department

01:11:41.789 --> 01:11:43.930
of War or foreign assistance from the Department

01:11:43.930 --> 01:11:48.689
of State As it turned out the money came from

01:11:49.100 --> 01:11:52.920
you know cocaine and and a couple of other things

01:11:52.920 --> 01:11:55.939
but You know that this was the you know, the

01:11:55.939 --> 01:11:59.520
famous fruit of Ricky Ross. Yeah, Gary Webb,

01:11:59.840 --> 01:12:05.880
you know John Kerry and The this was the soup

01:12:05.880 --> 01:12:08.600
that Jeffrey Epstein was was coming up in and

01:12:08.600 --> 01:12:10.779
you know funny story related to this is that

01:12:10.779 --> 01:12:14.840
the the main airline used to transport the drugs

01:12:14.840 --> 01:12:19.119
and guns in the drugs -for -cash -for -guns operation

01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:22.920
was a CIA proprietary airline called Southern

01:12:22.920 --> 01:12:30.939
Air Transport. Southern Air Transport was the

01:12:30.939 --> 01:12:34.060
proprietary CIA airline, meaning it was owned

01:12:34.060 --> 01:12:36.859
and operated exclusively by the Central Intelligence

01:12:36.859 --> 01:12:42.800
Agency. And it was the airliner that all these

01:12:42.800 --> 01:12:48.369
aircraft moved through. Iran Contra was basically

01:12:48.369 --> 01:12:52.069
the early 1980s up until like the mid late 1980s

01:12:52.069 --> 01:12:59.770
in 19 it was it was based in Miami in 1994 Southern

01:12:59.770 --> 01:13:03.810
Air Transport the CIA proprietary airline which

01:13:03.810 --> 01:13:06.329
in the intervening time was spun out to not be

01:13:06.329 --> 01:13:09.130
owned by the CIA but rather to be owned by someone

01:13:09.130 --> 01:13:14.130
who had worked for the CIA at the time it was

01:13:14.130 --> 01:13:16.380
owned by the CIA so You know pretty thin layer

01:13:16.380 --> 01:13:22.760
there, but it moved from Miami to Columbus, Ohio

01:13:22.760 --> 01:13:29.220
Primarily to service the limited I have a video

01:13:29.220 --> 01:13:32.279
on this Look over at Jamie because he's obsessed.

01:13:32.279 --> 01:13:34.640
Yeah, and if I obsessed with Patel Yeah, probably

01:13:34.640 --> 01:13:37.079
told you about this five years ago. Yeah. Yeah.

01:13:37.079 --> 01:13:39.500
Okay. Well, there's a great article. I think

01:13:39.500 --> 01:13:45.310
spook air and You know on this but How many roads

01:13:45.310 --> 01:13:51.069
lead back to Ohio? Most. Most, if not all. What

01:13:51.069 --> 01:13:57.569
is this connection with Ohio? Well, Ohio was,

01:13:57.949 --> 01:14:00.970
you know, if you remember, kind of the origins

01:14:00.970 --> 01:14:05.329
of organized crime in the United States really

01:14:05.329 --> 01:14:08.930
goes back to the Prohibition era when you had

01:14:08.930 --> 01:14:16.350
this Midwestern mafia syndicate. around Cincinnati

01:14:16.350 --> 01:14:20.569
and then it moved into Dayton and Columbus and

01:14:20.569 --> 01:14:23.850
adjacent to Chicago and this whole sort of hub

01:14:23.850 --> 01:14:26.869
around prohibition and then prohibition was 1920

01:14:26.869 --> 01:14:31.369
to 1933 when prohibition ended all these networks

01:14:31.369 --> 01:14:34.289
went from black market alcohol to black market

01:14:34.289 --> 01:14:37.609
drugs because it was no longer black market they

01:14:37.609 --> 01:14:40.710
no longer had a business smuggling alcohol so

01:14:40.710 --> 01:14:44.039
they they moved into the narcotics space Which

01:14:44.039 --> 01:14:50.279
ones which which narcotics well it was Primarily

01:14:50.279 --> 01:14:54.640
opium in the 1930s. This was part of opium Well,

01:14:54.640 --> 01:14:57.960
yeah, if you because in the 1930s was when you

01:14:57.960 --> 01:15:01.000
had This you know as we discussed the Department

01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:04.220
of War's alliance with Chang Hsieh and the and

01:15:04.220 --> 01:15:06.779
the Kuomintang the Chinese nationalists the the

01:15:06.779 --> 01:15:13.510
supply for You know The supply for Heroin for

01:15:13.510 --> 01:15:16.970
example or you know opium it comes from Asia

01:15:16.970 --> 01:15:19.149
comes from the Golden Crescent the Golden Triangle

01:15:19.149 --> 01:15:24.770
and the way this logistics chain moved was our

01:15:24.770 --> 01:15:29.810
CIA War Department backed rebel groups in Asia

01:15:29.810 --> 01:15:33.170
they sat territorially on the Golden Triangle

01:15:33.170 --> 01:15:40.930
They would cultivate the opium they would Basically

01:15:40.930 --> 01:15:44.550
fly it out on military aircraft. It went to Europe

01:15:44.550 --> 01:15:48.850
for processing in You know France that was one

01:15:48.850 --> 01:15:52.569
of the main Is this kind of French connection

01:15:52.569 --> 01:15:55.289
saga which again Jeffrey Epstein is weirdly connected

01:15:55.289 --> 01:15:58.470
to and I can Tell you about that if you're interested

01:15:58.470 --> 01:16:01.829
and then it would go to the basically Italian

01:16:01.829 --> 01:16:06.430
mafia folks For the trans shipment and you had

01:16:06.430 --> 01:16:10.079
Italian mafia controlled docks and ports in the

01:16:10.079 --> 01:16:12.800
United States and New York and New Jersey. And

01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:16.359
you had, you know, CIA protected Italian mafia

01:16:16.359 --> 01:16:19.619
groups in southern Italy, which at the time were

01:16:19.619 --> 01:16:22.739
national security protected because they were

01:16:22.739 --> 01:16:25.760
our allies against the communists. And so you

01:16:25.760 --> 01:16:30.039
had this this drug trade to support foreign policy

01:16:30.039 --> 01:16:33.520
imperatives. And you can do that. You can run

01:16:33.520 --> 01:16:36.399
that exercise with pretty much every drug on

01:16:36.399 --> 01:16:38.979
planet Earth at this point. And it makes it very

01:16:38.979 --> 01:16:41.659
difficult to stop the drug trade because by stopping

01:16:41.659 --> 01:16:45.340
the drug trade you are You're running up against

01:16:45.340 --> 01:16:48.079
something that your own government considers

01:16:48.079 --> 01:16:52.460
Perhaps unfortunate but necessary logistics hub.

01:16:52.479 --> 01:16:53.859
Do you think that's happening right now with

01:16:53.859 --> 01:16:59.460
Mexico? Yeah Whoa Well, I mean think about this

01:16:59.460 --> 01:17:02.560
fast and furious Yeah, wasn't that long ago the

01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:06.300
fast and furious story is fucking bananas Tell

01:17:06.300 --> 01:17:09.279
it to people that don't know because just the

01:17:09.279 --> 01:17:12.800
idea that they proposed this and Implemented

01:17:12.800 --> 01:17:17.300
it is so fucking crazy. Yeah Well, so this was

01:17:17.300 --> 01:17:20.739
a scandal during the Obama administration Eric

01:17:20.739 --> 01:17:22.680
Holder was the attorney general the United States

01:17:22.680 --> 01:17:25.500
He had to step down because he was held in contempt

01:17:25.500 --> 01:17:28.039
of Congress for jumping on the grenade and not

01:17:28.039 --> 01:17:32.729
turning over the fast and furious files Earth

01:17:32.729 --> 01:17:34.770
to Congress, note to Congress, who wants to be

01:17:34.770 --> 01:17:37.569
a hero, by the way? You can do the same thing

01:17:37.569 --> 01:17:40.550
with the Epstein bill with the Fast and Furious

01:17:40.550 --> 01:17:45.029
files. I think everybody in this war on drugs

01:17:45.029 --> 01:17:48.569
that we're so gung -ho about, we just captured

01:17:48.569 --> 01:17:51.149
the president of Venezuela over drugs, it would

01:17:51.149 --> 01:17:53.949
be awfully nice if you compelled the Justice

01:17:53.949 --> 01:17:57.729
Department and FBI to turn over the Justice Department

01:17:57.729 --> 01:18:01.409
and FBI run Fast and Furious files. But what

01:18:01.409 --> 01:18:04.189
happened was is and I believe this had inner

01:18:04.189 --> 01:18:07.930
agency approval Meaning the the White House signed

01:18:07.930 --> 01:18:09.909
off on it the Central Intelligence Agency signed

01:18:09.909 --> 01:18:12.770
off on it the Department of Defense Signed off

01:18:12.770 --> 01:18:15.390
on it the State Department signed off on it the

01:18:15.390 --> 01:18:19.970
FBI and ATF signed off on it This was a gun running

01:18:19.970 --> 01:18:25.350
operation to send guns to the Sinaloa cartel

01:18:25.350 --> 01:18:30.250
to to have them be able to successfully win a

01:18:30.390 --> 01:18:34.069
narco drug war against the Los Zetas cartel.

01:18:34.170 --> 01:18:36.930
The Los Zetas cartel was pilfering oil pipelines.

01:18:37.850 --> 01:18:40.949
Remember, Mexico, the oil wealth of the United

01:18:40.949 --> 01:18:43.789
States is vastly disproportionately concentrated

01:18:43.789 --> 01:18:48.649
in Texas. In West Texas and Southern Texas, where

01:18:48.649 --> 01:18:50.750
it shares oil fields with Mexico, effectively,

01:18:50.930 --> 01:18:53.609
those oil fields go into Mexico is replete with

01:18:53.609 --> 01:18:56.329
oil. And there are many partnerships between

01:18:56.329 --> 01:18:59.810
United States oil companies and the Mexican government.

01:18:59.930 --> 01:19:02.670
Pemex and and all the different, you know kind

01:19:02.670 --> 01:19:04.930
of private private lines and this is a big point

01:19:04.930 --> 01:19:07.350
of geopolitical contention But the fact is is

01:19:07.350 --> 01:19:09.989
one of the things that organized crime groups

01:19:09.989 --> 01:19:14.529
do in order to get money for their own syndicate

01:19:14.529 --> 01:19:16.630
Because they've got effectively military control

01:19:16.630 --> 01:19:20.550
of a territory is if a pipeline Runs through

01:19:20.550 --> 01:19:23.409
that territory. They can simply cut open the

01:19:23.409 --> 01:19:26.590
pipeline and steal the oil This is for example

01:19:26.590 --> 01:19:31.279
what you know was happening with our CIA backed

01:19:31.279 --> 01:19:34.180
rebel groups in Syria. We're taking the oil.

01:19:34.380 --> 01:19:37.460
I mean, we would literally, you know, our spunky

01:19:37.460 --> 01:19:40.319
moderate rebels would, you know, literally cut

01:19:40.319 --> 01:19:43.319
open Syrian pipelines and take the oil. And this

01:19:43.319 --> 01:19:45.720
was one of the ways to support it. You know,

01:19:45.720 --> 01:19:47.640
you can support it with drugs. You can support

01:19:47.640 --> 01:19:51.699
it with black market oil. And by the way, while

01:19:51.699 --> 01:19:56.460
I'm on the topic. If you if you pull up and I

01:19:56.460 --> 01:19:59.840
have this on my my ex if you type in Institute

01:19:59.840 --> 01:20:03.600
Institute for peace or just type in Institute

01:20:03.600 --> 01:20:10.039
peace drugs The the the US government the US

01:20:10.039 --> 01:20:15.260
Institute for peace Told the Taliban not to shut

01:20:15.260 --> 01:20:17.880
down the drug trade after they took power in

01:20:17.880 --> 01:20:22.479
2022 They said it would have a devastating you

01:20:22.479 --> 01:20:25.920
know, negative impact on the, you know, the local

01:20:25.920 --> 01:20:28.939
economy if they didn't keep growing. What was

01:20:28.939 --> 01:20:32.779
then, you know, 90, 95 percent of the. Well,

01:20:32.779 --> 01:20:34.939
yeah, if you well, I think click the next image.

01:20:37.380 --> 01:20:40.899
Wait, next image. Yeah, here you go. So this

01:20:40.899 --> 01:20:43.850
is this is a. You know we give the US Institute

01:20:43.850 --> 01:20:45.670
of Peace at the time we gave them fifty five

01:20:45.670 --> 01:20:47.409
million dollars a year the US Institute of Peace

01:20:47.409 --> 01:20:49.369
was created by Act of Congress in 1984. This

01:20:49.369 --> 01:20:53.210
headline is wild. The Taliban successful opium

01:20:53.210 --> 01:20:58.529
ban is bad for Afghans and the world. Yes. Right.

01:20:59.829 --> 01:21:07.890
Right. So now remember just about you know the

01:21:07.890 --> 01:21:12.550
Taliban had just taken back power. That happened

01:21:12.550 --> 01:21:15.170
in the you know in the early Biden administration

01:21:15.170 --> 01:21:21.489
the Taliban if folks recall Cut so we the CIA

01:21:21.489 --> 01:21:24.489
was help and and the US military as well as their

01:21:24.489 --> 01:21:28.250
allies and with regional allies We're cultivating

01:21:28.250 --> 01:21:32.149
the opium on the Golden Crescent For a noble

01:21:32.149 --> 01:21:36.270
cause to win the Cold War against the evil Soviets

01:21:36.270 --> 01:21:41.600
This was a big part of the funding for the Mujahideen.

01:21:42.239 --> 01:21:44.819
And this was one of the big scandals that ended

01:21:44.819 --> 01:21:49.119
up enveloping BCCI, the CIA's bank, because it

01:21:49.119 --> 01:21:52.260
was the way, because it was non -compliant with

01:21:52.260 --> 01:21:54.840
any banking regulations, it all moved offshore.

01:21:56.819 --> 01:22:01.340
The drug money, the drug logistics chain that

01:22:01.340 --> 01:22:04.180
the CIA built for the Mujahideen then moved through

01:22:04.180 --> 01:22:07.380
the. Drugs money laundering chain at the CIA

01:22:07.380 --> 01:22:10.220
bank and this apparatus had scaled for 20 years

01:22:10.220 --> 01:22:13.579
by the by the late 1990s when the Taliban like

01:22:13.579 --> 01:22:16.800
the Chinese wanted to shut it down when the Taliban

01:22:16.800 --> 01:22:21.520
took power in the 1990s and They did that they

01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:26.699
cut the OPM down to effectively zero in 1999

01:22:26.699 --> 01:22:30.880
and this is all open source into and then you

01:22:30.880 --> 01:22:37.590
know, we invade Afghanistan and you know, 2001,

01:22:37.770 --> 01:22:42.350
2003, it becomes a U .S. military occupied zone

01:22:42.350 --> 01:22:44.750
and it goes from 0 % of the world's heroin to

01:22:44.750 --> 01:22:48.630
95 % of the world's heroin, all under U .S. military

01:22:48.630 --> 01:22:51.989
occupation. In fact, we installed their dictator,

01:22:52.510 --> 01:23:00.350
you know, whose brother was the main drug kingpin

01:23:00.350 --> 01:23:04.789
of the whole country. And some of this move through

01:23:04.829 --> 01:23:10.069
Some of this move through the Cold War CIA backed

01:23:10.069 --> 01:23:15.229
Turkish Grey Wolves outfit and there's a funny

01:23:15.229 --> 01:23:17.229
quote I think in the Michael Hastings article

01:23:17.229 --> 01:23:22.329
on Stanley McChrystal where Stanley McChrystal's

01:23:22.329 --> 01:23:26.890
team refers to Hamid Karzai's funny little hat

01:23:26.890 --> 01:23:30.489
that he wore. Hamid Karzai was the CIA installed

01:23:30.489 --> 01:23:34.689
strongman. after we took over Afghanistan. He

01:23:34.689 --> 01:23:36.229
referred to his hat as the gray wolf's vagina.

01:23:36.350 --> 01:23:39.789
I mean, basically saying like this is the drug

01:23:39.789 --> 01:23:45.289
logistics orifice. But leaving that aside, what

01:23:45.289 --> 01:23:50.329
I'm getting to is you have this banking network.

01:23:51.470 --> 01:23:53.989
You have all these logistics chains. Jeffrey

01:23:53.989 --> 01:24:00.289
Epstein, his come up is made through this whole

01:24:00.289 --> 01:24:05.880
network. It turns out that Bear Stearns opened

01:24:05.880 --> 01:24:10.880
a trading desk to clear BCCI transactions in

01:24:10.880 --> 01:24:17.600
1978. Jeffrey Epstein's mentor, the person who

01:24:17.600 --> 01:24:21.340
actually recruited him to apply to Bear Stearns,

01:24:21.539 --> 01:24:24.859
was a guy named Ace Greenberg. Ace Greenberg

01:24:24.859 --> 01:24:27.579
then was a senior executive at the time, and

01:24:27.579 --> 01:24:33.180
then I think in 1978 or... 79 he becomes CEO

01:24:33.180 --> 01:24:36.739
so the head of Bear Stearns so Jeff and he sets

01:24:36.739 --> 01:24:40.460
Jeffrey Epstein up With his daughter so Jeffrey

01:24:40.460 --> 01:24:42.720
Epstein is a is a young kid people wonder how

01:24:42.720 --> 01:24:44.539
did Jeffrey Epstein make partner at Bear Stearns

01:24:44.539 --> 01:24:46.659
so fast Well, there's a couple explanations.

01:24:46.920 --> 01:24:49.300
You know one is the guy who brought him into

01:24:49.300 --> 01:24:54.180
the firm quickly became CEO thereafter and Jeffrey

01:24:54.180 --> 01:24:55.640
Epstein was dating his daughter the New York

01:24:55.640 --> 01:24:57.819
Times actually reported this about a month and

01:24:57.819 --> 01:25:01.439
a half ago by getting the insider testimony of

01:25:01.439 --> 01:25:03.680
a dozen people who worked at Bear Stearns at

01:25:03.680 --> 01:25:08.079
the time. And so, you know, he's dating the boss's

01:25:08.079 --> 01:25:11.279
daughter, but also Ace Greenberg is the CEO,

01:25:12.659 --> 01:25:15.279
would have to approve all of these transactions.

01:25:15.279 --> 01:25:17.720
And it looks like was involved in, you know,

01:25:17.800 --> 01:25:19.640
these clearinghouse activities. What happened

01:25:19.640 --> 01:25:26.300
was is Bear Stearns cleared about $13 billion

01:25:26.300 --> 01:25:29.560
worth of BCCI transactions and it looks like

01:25:29.560 --> 01:25:32.819
these transactions were involved in the very

01:25:32.819 --> 01:25:37.399
same Adnan Khashoggi society and Doug lease who

01:25:37.399 --> 01:25:39.720
was a British arms dealer that Jeffrey Epstein

01:25:39.720 --> 01:25:42.880
was flying to London to meet with and working

01:25:42.880 --> 01:25:47.579
with all those years. And they and be and Bear

01:25:47.579 --> 01:25:49.640
Stearns was doing it through this entity called

01:25:49.640 --> 01:25:55.899
Capcom which was what the the Senate. report

01:25:55.899 --> 01:25:58.699
on the BCCI scandal referred to as the bank within

01:25:58.699 --> 01:26:01.659
the bank of BCCI so kind of the inner sanctum

01:26:01.659 --> 01:26:04.760
of now that Capcom was was owned by Kamal autumn

01:26:04.760 --> 01:26:09.380
who was the head of He was the chief spy for

01:26:09.380 --> 01:26:15.300
Saudi Arabia. So he was so Bear Stearns The New

01:26:15.300 --> 01:26:17.819
York Times reports based on a dozen of these,

01:26:17.819 --> 01:26:21.819
you know insider You know testimonies they got

01:26:21.819 --> 01:26:24.800
like three of Epstein's bosses on the record

01:26:24.800 --> 01:26:27.060
to talk about you know, what he was doing there

01:26:27.060 --> 01:26:28.920
Amazingly, the New York Times does not mention

01:26:28.920 --> 01:26:33.079
a single deal name in the entire 20 ,000 word

01:26:33.079 --> 01:26:40.319
report. Why do you think that is? It might not

01:26:40.319 --> 01:26:45.220
be news fit to print also they just I'll I can

01:26:45.220 --> 01:26:48.460
be charitable and say they Might they just might

01:26:48.460 --> 01:26:52.340
not know they might think that you know I don't

01:26:52.340 --> 01:26:55.640
think that the New York Times has a pinky of

01:26:55.640 --> 01:26:59.000
the specialization in Jeffrey Epstein Cinematic

01:26:59.000 --> 01:27:03.819
universe knowledge that your random anonymous

01:27:03.819 --> 01:27:09.140
egg account on X has so they might not know about

01:27:09.140 --> 01:27:12.979
Bear Stearns Doing BCCI transactions. They might

01:27:12.979 --> 01:27:16.760
not know what you know If you don't know the

01:27:16.760 --> 01:27:18.039
material, you don't necessarily know what to

01:27:18.039 --> 01:27:23.279
ask. That's me being charitable. Also, you know,

01:27:23.300 --> 01:27:25.819
some of the witnesses may have said that they

01:27:25.819 --> 01:27:27.880
don't want to talk about specific deal names

01:27:27.880 --> 01:27:31.939
because that would tarnish, you know, the folks

01:27:31.939 --> 01:27:33.859
involved in that deal for association with Jeffrey

01:27:33.859 --> 01:27:36.060
Epstein. There could be a lot of reasons I'm

01:27:36.060 --> 01:27:38.840
trying to be charitable here. But but the fact

01:27:38.840 --> 01:27:41.960
is is. They all said Jeffrey Epstein moved up

01:27:41.960 --> 01:27:43.840
so fast because he was dating the boss's daughter

01:27:43.840 --> 01:27:45.960
and he was put on the biggest and most lucrative

01:27:45.960 --> 01:27:52.579
deals very quickly within the firm and Given

01:27:52.579 --> 01:27:55.680
the the incredible volume that Bear Stearns was

01:27:55.680 --> 01:27:59.779
appears to have been moving through BCCI and

01:27:59.779 --> 01:28:03.180
BCCI being you know, the hottest ticket in town

01:28:03.180 --> 01:28:05.920
then in the late 1970s It was literally the main

01:28:05.920 --> 01:28:09.170
vehicle for the US government to covertly launder

01:28:09.170 --> 01:28:14.949
funds. Capcom, according to the Senate Intelligence

01:28:14.949 --> 01:28:17.930
Report and the Justice Department investigations,

01:28:18.210 --> 01:28:21.229
was the main vehicle for funding the Mujahideen.

01:28:21.789 --> 01:28:25.409
50 % of those trades, and they laundered it illegally,

01:28:26.229 --> 01:28:31.449
which requires a brokerage, you know, a clearinghouse

01:28:31.449 --> 01:28:33.949
to prove it. You know, the way this is set up

01:28:33.949 --> 01:28:37.779
is you have a bank, You've got a money launderer

01:28:37.779 --> 01:28:39.579
and you've got a clearing house. The bank was

01:28:39.579 --> 01:28:43.640
the CIA bank, BCCI. The money launderer was the

01:28:43.640 --> 01:28:49.359
CIA's literal direct partner in this, the Saudis.

01:28:50.180 --> 01:28:53.579
Capcom was run by the chief Saudi spymaster.

01:28:54.060 --> 01:28:57.699
And then in 1982, Jeffrey Epstein obtained a

01:28:57.699 --> 01:29:00.960
fake Saudi passport. Sorry, it was a fake Austrian

01:29:00.960 --> 01:29:04.050
passport because that was a big... Loophole passport

01:29:04.050 --> 01:29:06.789
during the Cold War for spies, but said his residence

01:29:06.789 --> 01:29:08.710
was Saudi Arabia We didn't find this out until

01:29:08.710 --> 01:29:11.869
2019 when his safe was raided but that exact

01:29:11.869 --> 01:29:14.789
time Jeffrey Epstein has this fake Saudi passport

01:29:14.789 --> 01:29:21.890
and It's it's being done to support the CIA backed

01:29:21.890 --> 01:29:26.189
rebel group the Mujahideen in Afghanistan But

01:29:26.189 --> 01:29:29.149
that requires a clearinghouse to clear those

01:29:29.399 --> 01:29:31.539
Money laundering trades that were using these

01:29:31.539 --> 01:29:34.239
mirrored commodities trades, which is this, you

01:29:34.239 --> 01:29:37.399
know technique of basically, you know selling

01:29:37.399 --> 01:29:40.619
to yourself to to make money look clean so that

01:29:40.619 --> 01:29:44.300
it looks like You know profit and you know, it

01:29:44.300 --> 01:29:48.460
looks like you You know won or lost it in a market

01:29:48.460 --> 01:29:52.460
trade rather than through drug money And then

01:29:52.460 --> 01:29:57.000
they were then sending that on you know to But

01:29:57.000 --> 01:29:58.840
the fact is, is at the same time that that was

01:29:58.840 --> 01:30:02.800
happening, Anand Khashoggi, who would become

01:30:02.800 --> 01:30:05.159
Jeffrey Epstein's client in the 1980s when he

01:30:05.159 --> 01:30:09.939
went on his own, was the one facilitating the

01:30:09.939 --> 01:30:13.619
weapons, you have this drugs for cash for guns,

01:30:14.960 --> 01:30:19.720
the person, so the bank that's moving the, that's

01:30:19.720 --> 01:30:23.600
turning the drugs into clean cash that the head

01:30:23.600 --> 01:30:27.069
of the, you know, The Saudi spy master is running

01:30:27.069 --> 01:30:31.390
that part of the banking side. And then you've

01:30:31.390 --> 01:30:35.590
got the Saudi Saudi arms dealer who is moving

01:30:35.590 --> 01:30:40.329
it illegally into Iran, working hand in glove

01:30:40.329 --> 01:30:42.090
with the CIA and the National Security Council

01:30:42.090 --> 01:30:46.670
the whole time. You have a. You have a illegal

01:30:46.670 --> 01:30:50.250
financial enterprise protected at the highest

01:30:50.250 --> 01:30:53.210
level by the United States government, the US

01:30:53.210 --> 01:30:56.010
intelligence services. And by proxy, the Justice

01:30:56.010 --> 01:30:58.270
Department itself. Can you imagine the Justice

01:30:58.270 --> 01:31:00.710
Department prosecuting it while that operation

01:31:00.710 --> 01:31:05.390
was ongoing? Any defendant. You know, you asked

01:31:05.390 --> 01:31:09.989
what are the great reveals in the JFK files.

01:31:10.729 --> 01:31:15.109
And I'd be remiss if I didn't bring up the case

01:31:15.109 --> 01:31:18.409
of Rolando Masfer. There's an incredible document

01:31:18.409 --> 01:31:21.409
in the JFK files that Tulsi Gabbard released

01:31:21.409 --> 01:31:24.659
last year. which is a CIA document that describes,

01:31:24.659 --> 01:31:30.260
I think the quote is, massive damage if the Justice

01:31:30.260 --> 01:31:33.260
Department pursues a criminal case against a

01:31:33.260 --> 01:31:36.119
guy named Rolando Masfer. If you just type in

01:31:36.119 --> 01:31:40.300
Rolando Masfer, JFK files 2025 release, or like

01:31:40.300 --> 01:31:42.399
massive damage or something like that, you'll

01:31:42.399 --> 01:31:45.119
see this. It's an unbelievably incredible document.

01:31:45.619 --> 01:31:48.739
What it documents is that, There was a dispute

01:31:48.739 --> 01:31:50.760
between the CIA and the State Department the

01:31:50.760 --> 01:31:52.659
State Department sets foreign policy. The CIA

01:31:52.659 --> 01:31:57.659
is not is supposed to serve covertly The the

01:31:57.659 --> 01:32:00.159
State Department this the CIA is the junior seat

01:32:00.159 --> 01:32:02.899
at the table. Nobody ever goes from being you

01:32:02.899 --> 01:32:05.300
know Head of the State Department head of the

01:32:05.300 --> 01:32:09.140
CIA. That's a that's a demotion the CIA is supposed

01:32:09.140 --> 01:32:13.899
to be kind of the yeah, I use like the You know

01:32:13.899 --> 01:32:17.199
sopranos reference you know, Silvio comes in

01:32:17.199 --> 01:32:22.659
and shakes down the hairdresser shop or whatever

01:32:22.659 --> 01:32:25.460
for the money it owes the family. If you are

01:32:25.460 --> 01:32:27.720
that hairdresser, it's easy to think that Silvio

01:32:27.720 --> 01:32:29.920
runs the mafia because he's the one who shows

01:32:29.920 --> 01:32:31.859
up at your house, breaks your windows, breaks

01:32:31.859 --> 01:32:37.159
your knuckles and takes your money. But Silvio

01:32:37.159 --> 01:32:40.119
is not doing that because he runs it. He's doing

01:32:40.119 --> 01:32:43.899
it because the person setting the policy of the

01:32:43.899 --> 01:32:48.369
enterprise Tony is the boss of it. The way it's

01:32:48.369 --> 01:32:49.909
supposed to work is the State Department sets

01:32:49.909 --> 01:32:54.850
policy and the CIA does or organizes the plausibly

01:32:54.850 --> 01:32:57.210
deniable dirty work to achieve it if that is

01:32:57.210 --> 01:33:00.470
necessary to achieve that foreign policy. This

01:33:00.470 --> 01:33:02.869
is why there was a lot of debate in 1948 about

01:33:02.869 --> 01:33:05.010
whether the CIA should even take on this role.

01:33:05.189 --> 01:33:08.350
This is this great 1948 George Kennan memo that

01:33:08.350 --> 01:33:11.010
says maybe we should do have a office within

01:33:11.010 --> 01:33:14.270
the State Department called the you know, Bureau

01:33:14.270 --> 01:33:16.909
of Organized Political Warfare. And then two

01:33:16.909 --> 01:33:19.649
months later, they decided the CIA would, you

01:33:19.649 --> 01:33:22.590
know, would take that. But the fact is, is it's

01:33:22.590 --> 01:33:24.449
basically a State Department function, but CIA

01:33:24.449 --> 01:33:27.010
is supposed to defer to state. But what happened

01:33:27.010 --> 01:33:29.829
was, is there was a factional dispute between

01:33:29.829 --> 01:33:36.869
state and CIA over Cuba policy. The State Department

01:33:36.869 --> 01:33:40.050
wanted, thought that the CIA -backed rebel groups

01:33:40.050 --> 01:33:45.739
in Miami were being too aggressive. and too provocative,

01:33:46.520 --> 01:33:49.640
too hot -headed, doing acts of terrorism and

01:33:49.640 --> 01:33:51.840
sorts of things that look bad to the international

01:33:51.840 --> 01:33:55.319
community. JFK was trying to rein them in. But

01:33:55.319 --> 01:33:58.020
the CIA, the careers and folks there, wanted

01:33:58.020 --> 01:34:00.659
to take a more aggressive posture. And so one

01:34:00.659 --> 01:34:05.500
of the CIA's key assets and ringleaders had a

01:34:05.500 --> 01:34:08.680
logistics hub with a massive CIA -backed Cuban

01:34:08.680 --> 01:34:10.989
exile community network. at that time in the

01:34:10.989 --> 01:34:15.949
early 1960s in Miami, thought that JFK was being

01:34:15.949 --> 01:34:20.689
too impatient, too cautious. They wanted to invade

01:34:20.689 --> 01:34:25.369
basically a section of Haiti departing from Miami

01:34:25.369 --> 01:34:29.970
to use that as a base to then do kinetic attacks

01:34:29.970 --> 01:34:33.229
against Cuba. The State Department learned that

01:34:33.229 --> 01:34:36.390
this CIA -backed network led by Orlando Masfer

01:34:36.390 --> 01:34:40.180
was going to do this. Stopped it where they had

01:34:40.180 --> 01:34:42.520
a customs and border agent basically who was

01:34:42.520 --> 01:34:45.199
like manning the docks and caught them as like

01:34:45.199 --> 01:34:47.800
300 of them were you know departing to try to

01:34:47.800 --> 01:34:50.800
take over a part of of Haiti to do this and Then

01:34:50.800 --> 01:34:53.199
the State Department directed the Justice Department

01:34:53.199 --> 01:34:56.319
to pursue criminal charges against Rolando Masford

01:34:56.319 --> 01:35:01.680
in steps the CIA and You know if you if you can

01:35:01.680 --> 01:35:07.800
find this memo You know, it's mas You know for

01:35:07.800 --> 01:35:11.439
I think it's F -E -R -R -U -R, Rondo Mass Fer.

01:35:12.720 --> 01:35:22.119
It's a... If you, the title of it is like massive

01:35:22.119 --> 01:35:26.359
damage that would accrue. You can probably also

01:35:26.359 --> 01:35:33.550
just find, yeah, massive damage. There you go

01:35:33.550 --> 01:35:36.369
estimate of damage which could accrue to CI Miami

01:35:36.369 --> 01:35:39.550
through prosecution of the Orlando mass for Haitian

01:35:39.550 --> 01:35:42.170
invasion group again We just learned the existence

01:35:42.170 --> 01:35:45.770
of this document last year. This is from 19 the

01:35:45.770 --> 01:35:48.770
1960s now It says the decision by the Justice

01:35:48.770 --> 01:35:50.590
Department to seek a grand jury indictment against

01:35:50.590 --> 01:35:52.409
Orlando mass for uncertain of his associates

01:35:52.409 --> 01:35:56.029
is a potentially Explosive matter which could

01:35:56.029 --> 01:35:58.869
result in extensive damage to CI activities in

01:35:58.869 --> 01:36:02.140
Miami Recent adverse publicity on the national

01:36:02.140 --> 01:36:04.760
scene and in the Miami area have added substantially

01:36:04.760 --> 01:36:07.180
to the already sizable embarrassment potential.

01:36:07.600 --> 01:36:09.039
Can you imagine what these memos look like for

01:36:09.039 --> 01:36:11.619
Jeffrey Epstein? Some of the main sectors of

01:36:11.619 --> 01:36:14.619
danger to CIA equities are described below. Basic

01:36:14.619 --> 01:36:16.859
national publicity regarding student and foundation

01:36:16.859 --> 01:36:19.739
topics have already attracted... attention of

01:36:19.739 --> 01:36:22.180
the local press to the CIA in general. Usually

01:36:22.180 --> 01:36:24.520
any reference to CIA covert activities leads

01:36:24.520 --> 01:36:26.880
press to check files for references of any such

01:36:26.880 --> 01:36:28.960
activities locally. However, before this action

01:36:28.960 --> 01:36:31.359
can be taken, the story regarding, and then he

01:36:31.359 --> 01:36:33.979
goes over the Pan Am Foundation, the University

01:36:33.979 --> 01:36:36.840
of Miami, which was what hosted Jam Wave. The

01:36:36.840 --> 01:36:40.939
University of Miami then, the CIA's largest station

01:36:40.939 --> 01:36:43.479
house in the world, it was called Jam Wave, was

01:36:43.479 --> 01:36:45.920
hosted in a facility off of the University of

01:36:45.920 --> 01:36:49.850
Miami campus. again, the biggest CIA stationhouse

01:36:49.850 --> 01:36:52.989
in the entire world. The CIA. So it goes on to

01:36:52.989 --> 01:36:57.130
say that, OK, there have been all these. The

01:36:57.130 --> 01:36:59.569
top paragraph is saying we're under a lot of

01:36:59.569 --> 01:37:03.050
pressure, Justice Department. The public is already

01:37:03.050 --> 01:37:05.010
losing support for the CIA because of all these

01:37:05.010 --> 01:37:08.590
other disclosures, and it will be disastrous

01:37:08.590 --> 01:37:11.529
if you if if you pursue the prosecution of him,

01:37:11.529 --> 01:37:13.810
because Orlando Mastro is going to squeal. So

01:37:13.810 --> 01:37:16.649
I think if you go down to the next page, he says.

01:37:17.660 --> 01:37:19.680
as has been the case for the past six years.

01:37:19.859 --> 01:37:22.399
And he says, basically, the CIA has been working

01:37:22.399 --> 01:37:25.579
with the head of the president and treasurer

01:37:25.579 --> 01:37:28.279
of the University of Miami. They're extending

01:37:28.279 --> 01:37:32.420
the cooperation and all of this. So basically,

01:37:32.460 --> 01:37:34.899
all these touch points that Orlando Masters Network

01:37:34.899 --> 01:37:37.579
connects to will be exposed. And they go over

01:37:37.579 --> 01:37:41.199
all these what were previously redacted CIA cutouts

01:37:41.199 --> 01:37:43.819
in the area. And then he goes on the memo says,

01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:45.760
even if the above circumstances do not exist,

01:37:47.500 --> 01:37:49.800
We would remain concerned regarding the possible

01:37:49.800 --> 01:37:51.420
effects of the prosecution of the mass for a

01:37:51.420 --> 01:37:53.939
group Although no station agents or persons with

01:37:53.939 --> 01:37:56.159
whom the Miami station has contractual arrangements

01:37:56.159 --> 01:37:58.680
are among the persons arrested or those who will

01:37:58.680 --> 01:38:01.720
be prosecuted It will be very easy for the defense

01:38:01.720 --> 01:38:05.520
to drag CIA Miami into the case The defense has

01:38:05.520 --> 01:38:09.439
only to obtain testimony true or perjured They

01:38:09.439 --> 01:38:12.199
can see be true from one of the defendants or

01:38:12.199 --> 01:38:15.380
summon as defense witnesses one or more disaffected

01:38:15.380 --> 01:38:17.859
former agents of the CIA station in order to

01:38:17.859 --> 01:38:22.000
begin a chain reaction, surfacing such detail

01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:25.060
and rumor concerning CIA operations against the

01:38:25.060 --> 01:38:27.739
Cuban target. Given the sizable reduction of

01:38:27.739 --> 01:38:30.680
infiltration and a general feeling of frustration

01:38:30.680 --> 01:38:32.739
and lack of support for Cuban freedom attributed

01:38:32.739 --> 01:38:36.060
to passive U .S. policy, basically saying it

01:38:36.060 --> 01:38:40.760
would undermine our entire operation against

01:38:40.760 --> 01:38:43.479
Cuba and the American people support for it if

01:38:43.479 --> 01:38:46.039
the Justice Department indicts these people who

01:38:46.039 --> 01:38:48.579
just committed this crime because they can very

01:38:48.579 --> 01:38:51.600
the whole network is CIA and they can just call

01:38:51.600 --> 01:38:56.899
to the stand that their friends and associates

01:38:56.899 --> 01:38:59.220
had been talking with the CIA about this well

01:38:59.220 --> 01:39:00.720
before they had done it and that would be a massive

01:39:00.720 --> 01:39:04.060
scandal. Now that's just one example here and

01:39:04.060 --> 01:39:06.659
what goes on to happen is there's a negotiation

01:39:06.659 --> 01:39:09.979
between the State Department CIA About whether

01:39:09.979 --> 01:39:12.960
to bring the case how to bring the case how to

01:39:12.960 --> 01:39:14.439
shape There's a follow -up memo on this which

01:39:14.439 --> 01:39:16.699
is totally incredible at that I think is more

01:39:16.699 --> 01:39:19.199
the logistics on this the agreement they reach

01:39:19.199 --> 01:39:23.539
is That the State Department wins nominally they

01:39:23.539 --> 01:39:26.119
do bring the prosecution But they bring it in

01:39:26.119 --> 01:39:29.680
a highly limited and tepid way and they agree

01:39:29.680 --> 01:39:32.579
to the CIA's demands to limit lines of inquiry

01:39:32.579 --> 01:39:39.630
to to file motions against entering anything

01:39:39.630 --> 01:39:44.529
into discovery that might Basically reveal the

01:39:44.529 --> 01:39:49.350
CIA networks in this and they agree to have CIA

01:39:49.350 --> 01:39:52.649
general counsel person on the prosecution team

01:39:52.649 --> 01:39:56.189
in order to personally make sure that the Justice

01:39:56.189 --> 01:39:59.729
Department Stays in line and if something looks

01:39:59.729 --> 01:40:02.229
like if if the judge grants discovery for something

01:40:02.229 --> 01:40:05.340
that might reveal the CIA's role in it You know

01:40:05.340 --> 01:40:08.279
drop that line of prosecution so that it can't

01:40:08.279 --> 01:40:13.420
be entered into evidence and this this is This

01:40:13.420 --> 01:40:18.479
is what you see time and again is the Is how

01:40:18.479 --> 01:40:20.460
these networks get protected whether it's drug

01:40:20.460 --> 01:40:23.979
cases whether it's you know Foreign policy scandal

01:40:23.979 --> 01:40:26.840
cases whether it's money laundering cases. I

01:40:26.840 --> 01:40:28.979
believe in the mark rich case part of I think

01:40:28.979 --> 01:40:33.680
his lawyer Cited at one point or maybe it was

01:40:33.680 --> 01:40:36.199
a in his pardon application, the work that he

01:40:36.199 --> 01:40:38.659
had done for US intelligence services is part

01:40:38.659 --> 01:40:41.380
of the reason that he should be granted leniency.

01:40:42.439 --> 01:40:44.760
But the point I'm getting to here is given Jeffrey

01:40:44.760 --> 01:40:48.420
Epstein's involvement in the BCCI network, given

01:40:48.420 --> 01:40:51.739
Jeffrey's involvement in the 1990s with all the

01:40:51.739 --> 01:40:53.720
foreign policy activities happening in the Middle

01:40:53.720 --> 01:40:57.020
East at that time, given Jeffrey Epstein's involvement

01:40:57.020 --> 01:40:59.930
through You know the the early 2000s Clinton

01:40:59.930 --> 01:41:02.970
era and everything given his involvement in everything

01:41:02.970 --> 01:41:05.989
from Israeli to Saudi to British to French high

01:41:05.989 --> 01:41:09.069
-level government officials can you Jeffrey Epstein

01:41:09.069 --> 01:41:11.689
was investigated by the the SEC in the 1980s.

01:41:11.689 --> 01:41:15.829
He was what he was one of the two people Who

01:41:15.829 --> 01:41:18.510
part who ran the biggest Ponzi scheme in history

01:41:18.510 --> 01:41:21.189
at the time in the United States the towers financial

01:41:21.189 --> 01:41:24.069
collapse Epstein's business partner goes to jail

01:41:24.069 --> 01:41:27.899
for like 30 years or 20 years or whatever But

01:41:27.899 --> 01:41:31.539
Epstein skates completely free. Epstein gets

01:41:31.539 --> 01:41:34.380
involved in this huge fraud in the U .S. Virgin

01:41:34.380 --> 01:41:37.880
Islands with this, you know, like billion dollar

01:41:37.880 --> 01:41:40.039
fraud case in the U .S. Virgin Islands. Never

01:41:40.039 --> 01:41:45.399
prosecuted for any of it. Why is that? Well,

01:41:45.479 --> 01:41:47.960
one is, you know, he may have caught we know

01:41:47.960 --> 01:41:50.180
in the U .S. Virgin Islands case, he was sponsoring

01:41:50.180 --> 01:41:52.479
the campaigns, basically the politicians there,

01:41:52.899 --> 01:41:54.899
the prosecutors answered to the politicians.

01:41:54.899 --> 01:41:59.890
Could be that. But it I would be shocked if they're

01:41:59.890 --> 01:42:04.569
in 40 years of this Where's Waldo Forrest Gump?

01:42:04.970 --> 01:42:08.329
He's always in the room in 40 years of American

01:42:08.329 --> 01:42:11.369
foreign policy and intelligence activity, you

01:42:11.369 --> 01:42:14.550
know money sourcing for that For all the crimes

01:42:14.550 --> 01:42:17.010
that Epstein committed the concern was the same

01:42:17.010 --> 01:42:20.430
one they had with Rolando Masfer Don't bring

01:42:20.430 --> 01:42:22.470
the case and if you do bring it in a highly limited

01:42:22.470 --> 01:42:25.130
way and that's exactly what happened in 2006

01:42:25.279 --> 01:42:29.779
the first time he was indicted. Everybody was

01:42:29.779 --> 01:42:32.819
up in arms that it was a sweetheart plea deal.

01:42:33.840 --> 01:42:37.739
It limited. It gave protection to all co -conspirators,

01:42:38.119 --> 01:42:43.239
known and unknown. And it was swooped in quickly

01:42:43.239 --> 01:42:48.720
before there was a trial in full so that lines

01:42:48.720 --> 01:42:51.399
of evidence couldn't be opened about the network.

01:42:51.479 --> 01:42:54.479
It's just crazy that statutory rape is what took

01:42:54.479 --> 01:42:59.140
it all down, right? Because it's underaged hand

01:42:59.140 --> 01:43:04.119
jobs, right? That's what took it all down. Yeah,

01:43:04.279 --> 01:43:06.760
I mean, it seems to be what took Jeffrey Epstein

01:43:06.760 --> 01:43:12.140
down. Kind of crazy. Even that has a really interesting

01:43:12.140 --> 01:43:14.039
geopolitical history. There was a similar scandal

01:43:14.039 --> 01:43:16.800
in the early 2000s with a private military contractor

01:43:16.800 --> 01:43:19.855
called DynCorp, which again runs through this...

01:43:19.850 --> 01:43:23.489
Adnan Khashoggi kind of Middle Eastern Network

01:43:23.489 --> 01:43:32.390
Dying Corp got in trouble For trafficking facilitating

01:43:32.390 --> 01:43:37.510
that the traffic is a you know major US military

01:43:37.510 --> 01:43:43.729
and CIA contractor for logistics and the institutional

01:43:43.729 --> 01:43:48.369
support and military assistance On the ground

01:43:48.369 --> 01:43:49.810
for the US military all over the world. They

01:43:49.810 --> 01:43:55.409
got in trouble Moving basically trafficking underage

01:43:55.409 --> 01:44:00.630
kids to Middle Eastern shakes and I believe the

01:44:00.630 --> 01:44:06.369
in the early 2000s and I believe the reason That

01:44:06.369 --> 01:44:09.909
was alleged by Congress That they did that was

01:44:09.909 --> 01:44:12.210
to juice the deals with them that basically,

01:44:12.210 --> 01:44:15.909
you know these these people who were critical

01:44:16.039 --> 01:44:19.060
It's you know, if you're operating on the ground

01:44:19.060 --> 01:44:25.239
in Kuwait or you know Pick your Middle Eastern,

01:44:25.239 --> 01:44:30.479
you know country in order to Serve your purpose

01:44:30.479 --> 01:44:34.699
for the US government to be this outside plausibly

01:44:34.699 --> 01:44:38.239
deniable, but extensively infrastructure professional

01:44:38.239 --> 01:44:40.500
support outfit on the ground You need the support

01:44:40.500 --> 01:44:42.260
of the local government need the support of the

01:44:42.260 --> 01:44:43.979
local high -level officials. They need to be

01:44:43.979 --> 01:44:46.529
happy And there's several currencies for that.

01:44:46.609 --> 01:44:48.829
There's financial payoffs, and there's other

01:44:48.829 --> 01:44:51.890
things they might like, like parties and young

01:44:51.890 --> 01:44:57.329
women, especially in places where being with

01:44:57.329 --> 01:45:01.289
a very young female is not illegal. And so what

01:45:01.289 --> 01:45:05.170
Dying Corp, I believe, got busted doing, and

01:45:05.170 --> 01:45:06.890
you can look up the Dying Corp scandal here,

01:45:07.810 --> 01:45:10.850
was doing this. And I believe their argument

01:45:10.850 --> 01:45:13.909
was, well, you wanted us to do this thing on

01:45:13.909 --> 01:45:17.260
the ground. You wanted us to help the US military

01:45:17.260 --> 01:45:20.359
and you know kind of covert support nodes that

01:45:20.359 --> 01:45:23.539
were that were happening here We had to do it

01:45:23.539 --> 01:45:25.840
somehow. You know, this is part of what helped

01:45:25.840 --> 01:45:31.680
us do that. I Would not be surprised if the Epstein

01:45:31.680 --> 01:45:40.100
trafficking Apparatus started With similar motivations

01:45:40.100 --> 01:45:42.500
not you know that it's not for necessarily for

01:45:42.500 --> 01:45:47.380
blackmail but because it makes clients or customers

01:45:47.380 --> 01:45:55.579
or VIP people happy. It makes them owe you something.

01:45:55.600 --> 01:45:57.560
It makes them want to get involved in a deal

01:45:57.560 --> 01:46:01.520
you do, even if the deal is not one they would

01:46:01.520 --> 01:46:03.119
ordinarily do because they just want to stay

01:46:03.119 --> 01:46:05.399
close to you because you're their supplier of

01:46:05.399 --> 01:46:09.699
their vice, of the thing that they want but can't

01:46:09.699 --> 01:46:14.720
get. If you're a 70 -year -old Billionaire you

01:46:14.720 --> 01:46:17.920
can't walk into a bar and leave aside the underage

01:46:17.920 --> 01:46:20.399
thing you can't walk into a bar You know in you

01:46:20.399 --> 01:46:24.460
know meet an 18 year old who's you know? I'm

01:46:24.460 --> 01:46:28.260
presumed you know these things are facilitated

01:46:28.260 --> 01:46:32.100
that at private parties and It needs to you know

01:46:32.100 --> 01:46:33.779
for a lot of these guys that has to be discreet.

01:46:33.840 --> 01:46:36.340
You know they've got wives. They've got reputations

01:46:36.340 --> 01:46:40.659
and You know that there's an aspect of this that

01:46:40.659 --> 01:46:43.970
plays out at every institution I worked at a

01:46:43.970 --> 01:46:47.729
New York law firm, and there's ways that you

01:46:47.729 --> 01:46:52.569
can make partner. At least this was kind of the

01:46:52.569 --> 01:46:55.250
vibe that I felt. Some people make partner because

01:46:55.250 --> 01:46:56.609
they're really good technically at what they

01:46:56.609 --> 01:46:59.729
do. They're just amazing. They're just technical

01:46:59.729 --> 01:47:02.710
whizzes on the minutia of how to structure a

01:47:02.710 --> 01:47:05.770
merger or acquisition. They're just really great

01:47:05.770 --> 01:47:08.529
at structuring an offshore banking transaction,

01:47:08.710 --> 01:47:10.550
or they just know absolutely everything about

01:47:10.550 --> 01:47:13.060
tax law. There's some people who move up because

01:47:13.060 --> 01:47:16.420
of nepotism. They're the brother and the son

01:47:16.420 --> 01:47:19.359
-in -law of a major partner. There's some people

01:47:19.359 --> 01:47:22.840
who make partner because they know one, they

01:47:22.840 --> 01:47:24.840
brought in one client who's just a really big

01:47:24.840 --> 01:47:27.500
main rainmaker. And there's some people who move

01:47:27.500 --> 01:47:32.539
up because they open doors to partners while

01:47:32.539 --> 01:47:34.859
they're associates. They introduce them to someone,

01:47:35.340 --> 01:47:38.539
they host events, they've got tickets to exclusive

01:47:38.539 --> 01:47:41.170
things. And the partners just like being around

01:47:41.170 --> 01:47:43.789
that person because they get access to that person

01:47:43.789 --> 01:47:47.010
in a currency that they can't get on their own.

01:47:47.489 --> 01:47:52.170
And that includes hosting cool, exotic parties,

01:47:52.829 --> 01:47:58.029
having attractive women. I've never been convinced

01:47:58.029 --> 01:48:04.149
that the central role of the Epstein young girl,

01:48:05.670 --> 01:48:10.859
in my view, sidebar of the Epstein money laundering

01:48:10.859 --> 01:48:17.119
story is that it was for blackmail. Part of this

01:48:17.119 --> 01:48:21.880
is because the moment Jeffrey Epstein formally,

01:48:22.720 --> 01:48:25.239
officially threatens somebody with blackmail,

01:48:25.859 --> 01:48:28.680
and that person tells his wife, and that wife

01:48:28.680 --> 01:48:31.500
tells her friends, and that gets out to somebody

01:48:31.500 --> 01:48:36.399
else that knows Jeffrey Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein's

01:48:36.399 --> 01:48:40.000
access goes away. Overnight that's the sort of

01:48:40.000 --> 01:48:44.479
thing that even a rumor of that spreading and

01:48:44.479 --> 01:48:46.539
Nobody else is gonna want to do business with

01:48:46.539 --> 01:48:49.199
them So you think people just assume it's blackmail?

01:48:49.640 --> 01:48:52.500
Because that is how you would blackmail someone

01:48:52.500 --> 01:48:56.079
especially underage girls. I think it is very

01:48:56.079 --> 01:48:59.960
possible that there could have been indirect

01:48:59.960 --> 01:49:05.789
blackmail meaning Epstein passes it on to an

01:49:05.789 --> 01:49:09.649
intelligence service to a corporate espionage

01:49:09.649 --> 01:49:14.529
client or something, and they use that for their

01:49:14.529 --> 01:49:19.270
own purposes. But even then, I mean, imagine,

01:49:19.310 --> 01:49:28.149
for example, on the Bill Gates thing, Bill Gates

01:49:28.149 --> 01:49:31.149
gets an email, I have a video of you sleeping

01:49:31.149 --> 01:49:35.659
with this person. or somebody much lower level,

01:49:36.319 --> 01:49:39.100
the moment they send that to the press, if, you

01:49:39.100 --> 01:49:41.539
know, in order to, they figure they have nothing

01:49:41.539 --> 01:49:44.420
to lose. I mean, there's not been anybody in

01:49:44.420 --> 01:49:46.619
the seven years that's transpired who said, I've

01:49:46.619 --> 01:49:48.239
been, I was personally blackmailed by Jeffrey

01:49:48.239 --> 01:49:51.140
Epstein. I think, cause the moment you do that,

01:49:51.539 --> 01:49:53.380
nobody comes to your parties anymore. Nobody,

01:49:53.380 --> 01:49:55.460
you lose all the access, you lose all the deal

01:49:55.460 --> 01:49:58.079
flow. You lose all the goodwill that you've generated

01:49:58.079 --> 01:50:01.479
because this rumor, People are very risk -averse,

01:50:01.479 --> 01:50:04.039
especially at that level right but just to have

01:50:04.039 --> 01:50:07.960
it over their head and never use it though Right.

01:50:08.000 --> 01:50:11.159
Well, I think I think that what you could have

01:50:11.159 --> 01:50:16.100
is Because he does his own nefarious stuff He

01:50:16.100 --> 01:50:18.539
could compile it so that if they ever go out

01:50:18.539 --> 01:50:21.340
if they ever threaten him with something he's

01:50:21.340 --> 01:50:25.000
now got something on them and I've seen some

01:50:25.000 --> 01:50:27.840
correspondence that you know in the files that

01:50:27.840 --> 01:50:31.850
that that looks like that might not be an impossible

01:50:31.850 --> 01:50:33.310
scenario. Do you think that's how Jeffrey Epstein

01:50:33.310 --> 01:50:34.890
got in that position in the first place that

01:50:34.890 --> 01:50:39.109
they knew he had this kink? No, not at all. I

01:50:39.109 --> 01:50:40.909
mean Adnan Khashoggi had the same thing. Adnan

01:50:40.909 --> 01:50:44.069
Khashoggi was running around with dozens of young

01:50:44.069 --> 01:50:47.670
and apparently underage girls the whole time.

01:50:47.810 --> 01:50:50.430
I think that Jeffrey Epstein probably learned

01:50:50.430 --> 01:50:54.390
how powerful that can be through that network,

01:50:54.850 --> 01:50:59.890
seeing that that's what powerful people do That

01:50:59.890 --> 01:51:04.170
gives them something that Gets them a lot of

01:51:04.170 --> 01:51:06.890
local influence and gets wins them a lot of favor.

01:51:06.909 --> 01:51:11.630
That's a very specific illicit desire To want

01:51:11.630 --> 01:51:15.109
underage people. Well, I'm very how do you even

01:51:15.109 --> 01:51:17.989
find out that someone's into that? Well, I don't

01:51:17.989 --> 01:51:21.609
think that the Majority or anything close to

01:51:21.609 --> 01:51:25.170
it of the women were Technically, I think it

01:51:25.170 --> 01:51:29.829
was largely young very young You know barely

01:51:29.829 --> 01:51:32.029
legal so to speak but and I know that there were

01:51:32.029 --> 01:51:36.270
cases of underage, but I you know, I think Most

01:51:36.270 --> 01:51:38.270
of it was just most of it was just very very

01:51:38.270 --> 01:51:41.369
young but not Not like like 20 year old not like

01:51:41.369 --> 01:51:45.149
13 year old thing and then yeah remember because

01:51:45.149 --> 01:51:48.090
this is an international enterprise and many

01:51:48.090 --> 01:51:52.369
of the clients are like You know in countries

01:51:52.369 --> 01:51:54.430
that don't necessarily have the same norms about

01:51:54.430 --> 01:51:58.739
that that we do you can very easily see someone

01:51:58.739 --> 01:52:01.300
getting involved in that just because girls juice

01:52:01.300 --> 01:52:06.680
deals. And so I don't think that Epstein, I've

01:52:06.680 --> 01:52:11.960
not seen evidence and in my view, you don't need

01:52:11.960 --> 01:52:15.000
any of that to understand the core part of the

01:52:15.000 --> 01:52:17.859
Epstein story that is relevant to your life today

01:52:17.859 --> 01:52:20.399
in terms of your own government and the workings

01:52:20.399 --> 01:52:22.359
of power and corporate finance and the like.

01:52:23.479 --> 01:52:27.289
But I... I do think that Girls Juice Deals and

01:52:27.289 --> 01:52:30.470
the fact that he had the coolest parties on a

01:52:30.470 --> 01:52:33.649
private island with the hottest girls is something

01:52:33.649 --> 01:52:36.109
that makes... Also brought in a lot of intellectuals,

01:52:36.310 --> 01:52:39.289
stimulating conversations, scientists, all these

01:52:39.289 --> 01:52:41.510
very interesting people. So that was part of

01:52:41.510 --> 01:52:44.689
the thing, right? That was the draw. Try hosting

01:52:44.689 --> 01:52:51.560
a cool party as a guy with a bad ratio. So to

01:52:51.560 --> 01:52:54.500
speak. Sausage party. With a sausage party. And

01:52:54.500 --> 01:52:56.680
when you develop a reputation for having attractive

01:52:56.680 --> 01:53:02.340
women at the parties you host, you become an

01:53:02.340 --> 01:53:05.619
important person to know in the network. Because

01:53:05.619 --> 01:53:10.399
basically every male has a desire for attractive

01:53:10.399 --> 01:53:14.159
women, not saying underage, obviously. But that

01:53:14.159 --> 01:53:19.420
is like a universal, biological desire for men.

01:53:19.529 --> 01:53:22.029
to want to be around attractive women. And what

01:53:22.029 --> 01:53:27.010
did they do for gay guys? I have no idea. Is

01:53:27.010 --> 01:53:32.390
that a part of the file or the the lore? I've

01:53:32.390 --> 01:53:35.729
not seen evidence of it. Or if I have, I can't

01:53:35.729 --> 01:53:40.090
recall it offhand. But the whole point is he's

01:53:40.090 --> 01:53:42.569
throwing these very attractive, cool parties

01:53:42.569 --> 01:53:46.029
to get all these people together. But that's

01:53:46.029 --> 01:53:52.039
what juices deals. Right. If you Take this scenario

01:53:52.039 --> 01:54:01.300
Epstein's running a fund a A donor a colleague

01:54:01.300 --> 01:54:04.439
someone that he'd like to do a favor for or an

01:54:04.439 --> 01:54:10.239
intelligence service says hey We're trying to

01:54:10.239 --> 01:54:16.619
get a pipeline built in the Middle East We we

01:54:16.619 --> 01:54:21.409
need a you know a facilitator to help arrange

01:54:21.409 --> 01:54:25.050
private outside funding for it. So this thing

01:54:25.050 --> 01:54:28.069
can be constructed. And it doesn't look like

01:54:28.069 --> 01:54:31.729
it's coming from the U .S. government, but the

01:54:31.729 --> 01:54:33.770
U .S. government will provide some sort of loan

01:54:33.770 --> 01:54:36.270
guarantee or something on it, but we can't raise

01:54:36.270 --> 01:54:38.789
enough money to do this. It needs to come from

01:54:38.789 --> 01:54:41.470
the outside, but it would really help American

01:54:41.470 --> 01:54:43.550
national security. And there's probably something

01:54:43.550 --> 01:54:47.359
in it for you if you can get this done. Epstein

01:54:47.359 --> 01:54:51.739
then goes out and says to then puts out basically

01:54:51.739 --> 01:54:56.020
Tries to make contact with people in his network

01:54:56.020 --> 01:54:59.579
who might be interested in that deal and then

01:54:59.579 --> 01:55:04.619
goes on and See goes out to five people two of

01:55:04.619 --> 01:55:09.739
them are You know in the space locally the the

01:55:09.739 --> 01:55:11.739
deal terms look good. They want to do it 100

01:55:11.739 --> 01:55:18.399
% no hesitation And then two people say, well,

01:55:18.439 --> 01:55:21.420
listen, it's a good idea and concept, but I don't

01:55:21.420 --> 01:55:23.500
know, the risk profile on it looks a little high.

01:55:23.960 --> 01:55:26.640
This normally would not be something that my

01:55:26.640 --> 01:55:34.119
team would clear. It's interesting, but it's

01:55:34.119 --> 01:55:36.319
a little rich for my blood in terms of the risk

01:55:36.319 --> 01:55:39.840
profile. But Jeffrey Epstein asked them to do

01:55:39.840 --> 01:55:43.699
it. And Jeffrey Epstein, for the past three years

01:55:43.699 --> 01:55:46.960
of their lives has been the best weekend they've

01:55:46.960 --> 01:55:50.420
ever had has, you know, has made them feel alive

01:55:50.420 --> 01:55:54.520
again in their mid fifties or sixties has, you

01:55:54.520 --> 01:55:56.779
know, has opened all sorts of other deals for

01:55:56.779 --> 01:56:01.859
them. And this deal might work out. So if I'm

01:56:01.859 --> 01:56:04.600
afraid that if I say no to Jeffrey Epstein on

01:56:04.600 --> 01:56:07.000
this deal, I'm not going to get an invite to

01:56:07.000 --> 01:56:09.140
the next party. I'm not going to be able to get

01:56:09.140 --> 01:56:13.640
laid again with like, you know. a girl with women

01:56:13.640 --> 01:56:17.000
I find attractive or that yada yada and Epstein

01:56:17.000 --> 01:56:20.880
hooks those up. I will do, I'll get in on this

01:56:20.880 --> 01:56:24.100
deal just because I wanna be in the good graces

01:56:24.100 --> 01:56:29.939
of Jeffrey Epstein, not because the deal is a

01:56:29.939 --> 01:56:32.119
standalone thing, it's because it's juiced by

01:56:32.119 --> 01:56:35.420
the girls, the parties, the lifestyle that Epstein.

01:56:35.720 --> 01:56:38.060
Allows you to have access to but in the public

01:56:38.060 --> 01:56:41.300
eye the narrative is underage girls And this

01:56:41.300 --> 01:56:43.159
is the thing that makes it so disgusting when

01:56:43.159 --> 01:56:45.479
people talk about it everyone says fuck kids

01:56:45.479 --> 01:56:49.180
on the island this is the this is the The the

01:56:49.180 --> 01:56:52.020
big conspiracy about it, and this is the reason

01:56:52.020 --> 01:56:57.439
why people are so outraged about it My concern

01:56:57.439 --> 01:57:04.640
with the runaway train on that is that It's a

01:57:04.640 --> 01:57:08.359
massive manhunt for something that it may be

01:57:08.359 --> 01:57:12.460
true to me. It's a it's an it's a Needle in the

01:57:12.460 --> 01:57:16.319
haystack. It might be true. Good luck looking

01:57:16.319 --> 01:57:21.539
for it and When when I think about it logically

01:57:21.539 --> 01:57:26.000
with the role that Epstein played between BCCI

01:57:26.000 --> 01:57:30.739
Iran Contra Latin American politics African politics

01:57:30.739 --> 01:57:35.420
Asian politics major world foundations, you don't

01:57:35.420 --> 01:57:45.220
need. It would seem. Ludicrous to me that Epstein

01:57:45.220 --> 01:57:50.060
doesn't mean it's impossible, but logistically,

01:57:50.739 --> 01:57:55.560
if Epstein ever directly threatened someone proactively,

01:57:56.000 --> 01:57:58.020
that is, if the person tries to blackmail Epstein,

01:57:58.119 --> 01:58:02.260
Epstein could reactively. Say, well, I've got

01:58:02.260 --> 01:58:06.279
I've got shit on you, too. But proactively and

01:58:06.279 --> 01:58:10.079
really, really do someone in like that. And word

01:58:10.079 --> 01:58:15.260
gets around that that happens. Everything, everything

01:58:15.260 --> 01:58:17.800
he built goes at the whole Rolodex finds out.

01:58:17.880 --> 01:58:19.960
And then even if the rumors not even if that

01:58:19.960 --> 01:58:23.460
rumor isn't even if he didn't, if that rumor

01:58:23.460 --> 01:58:26.060
existed, people aren't going to want to go to

01:58:26.060 --> 01:58:30.350
the parties because now that's not like. an unfettered

01:58:30.350 --> 01:58:33.810
good time, that is like, oh, he did this to this

01:58:33.810 --> 01:58:40.930
guy I know. And so, and the fact that these sorts

01:58:40.930 --> 01:58:48.210
of things, they have a value way beyond blackmail.

01:58:48.369 --> 01:58:51.909
They have a value in terms of bringing people

01:58:51.909 --> 01:58:54.109
in network and keeping clients and customers

01:58:54.109 --> 01:59:00.670
happy and providing access. And I think, Think

01:59:00.670 --> 01:59:03.369
that the the focus on that listen if there were

01:59:03.369 --> 01:59:05.789
if there were any sort of receipts whatsoever

01:59:05.789 --> 01:59:10.090
on that after all these years If there was like

01:59:10.090 --> 01:59:13.829
something really good to chew on on that on that

01:59:13.829 --> 01:59:18.189
thread. I'm I'm very I'm open -minded about it,

01:59:18.350 --> 01:59:25.069
but my concern is the fixation on this You think

01:59:25.069 --> 01:59:28.979
about the sort of pie chart of what? the Epstein

01:59:28.979 --> 01:59:31.079
Cinematic Universe can tell you about the world.

01:59:32.119 --> 01:59:35.279
Even if it's true, it's a very, very, very small

01:59:35.279 --> 01:59:39.720
fraction of that. And this gets back to in 1999,

01:59:39.720 --> 01:59:45.399
I mentioned. Jeffrey Epstein. FOIA to the Central

01:59:45.399 --> 01:59:50.500
Intelligence Agency in 1999 for all records about

01:59:50.500 --> 01:59:55.569
himself. And then he did it again in 2011. Now,

01:59:55.609 --> 01:59:57.590
Jeffrey Epstein was not a public figure at all

01:59:57.590 --> 02:00:00.890
in 1999. He didn't come into public awareness,

02:00:00.989 --> 02:00:06.329
public attention until 2001, 2002, when he flew

02:00:06.329 --> 02:00:09.369
Bill Clinton around, post presidency Bill Clinton

02:00:09.369 --> 02:00:13.649
around, on his Africa tour around the time of

02:00:13.649 --> 02:00:15.590
the start of the Clinton Foundation. And everyone

02:00:15.590 --> 02:00:18.909
was wondering, whoa, who's this eccentric billionaire

02:00:18.909 --> 02:00:22.909
who is personally flying around on his private

02:00:22.909 --> 02:00:25.010
jet? the President of the United States for the

02:00:25.010 --> 02:00:27.989
past eight years. And that's when the Jeffrey

02:00:27.989 --> 02:00:30.930
Epstein celebrity story started. But he was a

02:00:30.930 --> 02:00:35.069
private figure in 1999 when he FOIAed the Central

02:00:35.069 --> 02:00:38.810
Intelligence Agency for records. And we just

02:00:38.810 --> 02:00:44.250
learned this in the files this week. The response,

02:00:45.189 --> 02:00:48.590
we don't actually have the underlying, what's

02:00:48.590 --> 02:00:53.000
in the files is a 2011 FOIA response. to Jeffrey

02:00:53.000 --> 02:00:55.500
Epstein's lawyer. Jeffrey Epstein did this through

02:00:55.500 --> 02:00:58.000
his lawyer using the Privacy Act. This is a way

02:00:58.000 --> 02:01:03.220
to basically kind of anonymously FOIA the CIA

02:01:03.220 --> 02:01:09.119
to basically keep communications between the

02:01:09.119 --> 02:01:11.819
CIA and your lawyer for information you're entitled

02:01:11.819 --> 02:01:16.180
to under the Privacy Act about yourself. And

02:01:16.180 --> 02:01:19.979
we don't have the underlying letter in the files,

02:01:20.340 --> 02:01:23.670
tragically and for whatever reason. But we but

02:01:23.670 --> 02:01:25.850
what we do have, because I would expect that

02:01:25.850 --> 02:01:29.149
to be an enclosure to the CIA response. But the

02:01:29.149 --> 02:01:32.109
fact is, is anybody who wants to be a hero right

02:01:32.109 --> 02:01:34.970
now, and I have it up on my on my ex account,

02:01:35.289 --> 02:01:39.909
I have in the thread that I did on this the reference,

02:01:39.930 --> 02:01:42.770
the file reference numbers. These are not classified

02:01:42.770 --> 02:01:45.609
documents. FOIA responses are not classified.

02:01:46.109 --> 02:01:49.569
So. anybody right now can FOIA the Central Intelligence

02:01:49.569 --> 02:01:52.109
Agency for all records and communications related

02:01:52.109 --> 02:01:58.949
to the CIA's. Written communications with Jeffrey

02:01:58.949 --> 02:02:03.210
Epstein via his lawyer, both in 1999, 2011, but

02:02:03.210 --> 02:02:06.789
the 2011 what it says is we have received your

02:02:06.789 --> 02:02:11.109
request for your client, Jeffrey Epstein's records

02:02:11.109 --> 02:02:13.050
search under the Freedom of Information Act.

02:02:14.430 --> 02:02:18.850
We've granted the request to search for all open

02:02:18.850 --> 02:02:22.390
and acknowledged agency affiliations between

02:02:22.390 --> 02:02:27.229
Jeffrey Epstein and the CIA. We have run that

02:02:27.229 --> 02:02:30.710
search and the answer is no documents are responsive

02:02:30.710 --> 02:02:33.029
to the request. And then it says in the next

02:02:33.029 --> 02:02:36.810
paragraph, with respect to your request that

02:02:36.810 --> 02:02:40.529
touches on classified. classified documents,

02:02:40.750 --> 02:02:43.770
we can neither confirm nor deny the existence

02:02:43.770 --> 02:02:47.310
or nonexistence of any such documents. So you

02:02:47.310 --> 02:02:50.149
can consider this a partial denial of your FOIA

02:02:50.149 --> 02:02:53.470
request. Now, what's so interesting about that

02:02:53.470 --> 02:02:56.670
is you may think if you read that that Jeffrey

02:02:56.670 --> 02:03:00.510
Epstein, you know, just requested any public

02:03:00.510 --> 02:03:05.109
facing links between him and the CIA or, you

02:03:05.109 --> 02:03:08.989
know, what just a general, you know, What do

02:03:08.989 --> 02:03:11.789
you have on me that the public can search just

02:03:11.789 --> 02:03:13.210
to see? First of all, the fact they did that

02:03:13.210 --> 02:03:17.750
alone twice in 1999, 2011 says something. But

02:03:17.750 --> 02:03:20.430
the you might think, OK, well, he just wants

02:03:20.430 --> 02:03:23.869
to know if other people might think that he's

02:03:23.869 --> 02:03:26.989
CIA. You know, he's he's moving up in the world

02:03:26.989 --> 02:03:29.590
in 1999. He's about to be a massive public figure.

02:03:29.649 --> 02:03:33.609
He wants to know if other people FOIA, the CIA

02:03:33.609 --> 02:03:37.090
for records on him, what they will see. And.

02:03:37.529 --> 02:03:42.670
But that it turns out that. Response to a FOIA

02:03:42.670 --> 02:03:46.069
partial granting of the FOIA to look for open

02:03:46.069 --> 02:03:50.430
and acknowledged agency links and partial Glomar

02:03:50.430 --> 02:03:53.449
can neither confirm nor deny existence, nonexistence

02:03:53.449 --> 02:03:57.750
is a stock CIA FOIA response whenever you FOIA

02:03:57.750 --> 02:04:03.149
the CIA for someone's personnel files. Which.

02:04:04.069 --> 02:04:06.729
Leads to the question, because. The fact that

02:04:06.729 --> 02:04:12.050
the CIA says we consider this a denial of your

02:04:12.050 --> 02:04:15.149
request for classified, for things that touch

02:04:15.149 --> 02:04:19.430
on classified matters, means that he didn't just

02:04:19.430 --> 02:04:21.789
ask for all open and acknowledged links between

02:04:21.789 --> 02:04:24.729
the CIA and himself. He asked for something.

02:04:26.010 --> 02:04:28.550
And whatever that thing was, it touched on something

02:04:28.550 --> 02:04:31.409
classified. There would have been no Glomar.

02:04:32.170 --> 02:04:34.850
There would have been nothing to deny about the

02:04:34.850 --> 02:04:38.819
request. if it had only been limited to open

02:04:38.819 --> 02:04:43.060
and acknowledged links. To me, this is a bombshell

02:04:43.060 --> 02:04:46.699
and should prompt Ro Khanna and Thomas Massey

02:04:46.699 --> 02:04:49.399
and the 427 members of the House of Representatives

02:04:49.399 --> 02:04:53.239
and 100 % of the US Senate to pass the same bill

02:04:53.239 --> 02:04:57.060
that the United States Congress did in 1992 for

02:04:57.060 --> 02:05:02.600
the JFK Records Collection Act when the CIA was

02:05:02.600 --> 02:05:05.000
forced by law to stand up an independent auditing

02:05:05.000 --> 02:05:08.229
body to review all classified records relating

02:05:08.229 --> 02:05:10.909
to the JFK assassination for the first time ever

02:05:10.909 --> 02:05:16.270
and then declassify them over months and years

02:05:16.270 --> 02:05:20.369
through the work of that independent board. The

02:05:20.369 --> 02:05:23.350
existence of this correspondence we just learned

02:05:23.350 --> 02:05:27.569
about this week alone should prompt a 427 to

02:05:27.569 --> 02:05:31.470
1 and 100 % Senate to do the same thing they

02:05:31.470 --> 02:05:34.289
just did with the OJ files for CIA originated

02:05:34.289 --> 02:05:39.979
files. That's Actionable immediately who's gonna

02:05:39.979 --> 02:05:41.859
want to be on the other side of that in Congress?

02:05:42.840 --> 02:05:47.319
No, the CIA's records about Jeffrey Epstein prolific

02:05:47.319 --> 02:05:49.140
child sex trap. Well, however, you want, you

02:05:49.140 --> 02:05:52.920
know whatever you see in the Rorschach inkblot

02:05:52.920 --> 02:05:58.020
test of the Epstein universe I think it'd be

02:05:58.020 --> 02:06:00.680
very hard to be if that bill gets introduced

02:06:00.680 --> 02:06:04.220
for a sitting member of Congress to be on the

02:06:04.220 --> 02:06:06.380
other side of it. I think it would pass. And

02:06:06.380 --> 02:06:09.880
it would legally compel the CIA to turn over

02:06:09.880 --> 02:06:14.539
what I think are quite possibly, arguably very

02:06:14.539 --> 02:06:20.060
likely, 40 years of CIA documents referencing

02:06:20.060 --> 02:06:23.119
Epstein. The CIA would not be doing its job if

02:06:23.119 --> 02:06:25.479
it didn't have records about Jeffrey Epstein.

02:06:26.060 --> 02:06:29.060
Jeffrey Epstein was a counterintelligence threat

02:06:29.060 --> 02:06:31.539
with all the foreign countries that he was dealing

02:06:31.539 --> 02:06:34.180
with. If he had been... a double agent sort of

02:06:34.180 --> 02:06:35.739
thing. The CIA would not be doing its job if

02:06:35.739 --> 02:06:39.279
it was not keeping tabs. Epstein's network was

02:06:39.279 --> 02:06:42.819
a key financial logistics hubs in highly geopolitical

02:06:42.819 --> 02:06:46.159
sensitive areas of operation of the CIA. The

02:06:46.159 --> 02:06:48.680
economics division of the CIA, let alone the

02:06:48.680 --> 02:06:53.039
operations division, is going to have to keep

02:06:53.039 --> 02:06:57.420
analysts informed about money flows in those

02:06:57.420 --> 02:07:01.079
countries. And then you add in the fact that

02:07:01.079 --> 02:07:03.760
he represented Anand Khashoggi's money, who was

02:07:03.760 --> 02:07:09.000
the C .I.'s main point person, for ten years,

02:07:09.939 --> 02:07:12.399
the literal central linchpin in his money is

02:07:12.399 --> 02:07:16.000
being handled, there's no way. And you now have

02:07:16.000 --> 02:07:20.319
a legal mechanism to enforce C .I. declassification

02:07:20.319 --> 02:07:22.579
if Congress forces it. Now, the other part of

02:07:22.579 --> 02:07:24.479
it is, okay, why hasn't the C .I. turned this

02:07:24.479 --> 02:07:27.260
over before? You could argue it's a Rolando Masford

02:07:27.260 --> 02:07:30.140
case, it would embarrass the agency, it would

02:07:30.140 --> 02:07:33.439
mean In Congress, their funding is going to get

02:07:33.439 --> 02:07:35.920
decimated because they're toxic. You can argue

02:07:35.920 --> 02:07:37.640
it's foreign governments that don't want that.

02:07:37.859 --> 02:07:39.319
But part of it is the CIA is not allowed to do

02:07:39.319 --> 02:07:41.119
this unless the Congress forces them. These are

02:07:41.119 --> 02:07:45.060
classified documents. I mean, it could, you know,

02:07:45.180 --> 02:07:51.140
charitably volunteer to ODNI by conducting, you

02:07:51.140 --> 02:07:55.560
know, an internal task force that voluntarily,

02:07:55.560 --> 02:08:01.119
you know, asks Tulsi Gabbard to declassify these.

02:08:02.199 --> 02:08:04.840
I wouldn't hold your breath on that. But this

02:08:04.840 --> 02:08:06.680
is immediately actionable and it would solve

02:08:06.680 --> 02:08:09.819
the mystery. All we need is one brave member

02:08:09.819 --> 02:08:13.439
of Congress to get the ball rolling and stand

02:08:13.439 --> 02:08:15.479
up that bill. And you can just copy paste the

02:08:15.479 --> 02:08:19.000
1992 JFK Records Collection Act and just substitute

02:08:19.000 --> 02:08:22.340
JFK for Jeffrey Epstein. What's your take on

02:08:22.340 --> 02:08:27.680
the circumstances around his death? I don't know.

02:08:29.099 --> 02:08:33.159
I it's weird that they took a guy who is one

02:08:33.159 --> 02:08:36.720
of those high -profile defendants ever and You

02:08:36.720 --> 02:08:40.579
put him in jail with a mass murder. Yeah Yeah,

02:08:40.819 --> 02:08:43.180
kind of crazy. You put him in jail with a cop

02:08:43.180 --> 02:08:46.800
who had killed drug dealers a juiced up gigantic

02:08:46.800 --> 02:08:50.840
cop Yeah, who was obviously a psychopath and

02:08:50.840 --> 02:08:53.500
then 18 days before he died. He complained that

02:08:53.500 --> 02:09:00.100
that guy tried to kill him Yeah I mean, it doesn't

02:09:00.100 --> 02:09:03.479
look good. It's just crazy that this guy wasn't

02:09:03.479 --> 02:09:06.600
in protective custody. It's crazy that the cameras

02:09:06.600 --> 02:09:09.899
go down. It's crazy that the footage that they've

02:09:09.899 --> 02:09:13.020
released is weird because it's missing time.

02:09:14.319 --> 02:09:16.840
And it's crazy that it happened under the watch

02:09:16.840 --> 02:09:20.600
of an attorney general who himself was so deeply

02:09:20.600 --> 02:09:22.619
embedded in the Epstein network his whole life.

02:09:23.000 --> 02:09:26.079
I mean, from the weird kind of coincidence of

02:09:26.270 --> 02:09:28.529
Bill Barr's father, Donald Barr, and Jeffrey

02:09:28.529 --> 02:09:31.149
Epstein's Dalton School to the fact that Bill

02:09:31.149 --> 02:09:35.350
Barr started his career in the CIA during the

02:09:35.350 --> 02:09:38.470
Iran -Contra operation that Jeffrey Epstein appears

02:09:38.470 --> 02:09:40.149
to have been doing the covert money laundering

02:09:40.149 --> 02:09:44.710
for. Bill Barr was like seven years. He went

02:09:44.710 --> 02:09:47.109
to Knight Law School, trained to be a lawyer

02:09:47.109 --> 02:09:50.670
while he was at the CIA, and then his main job

02:09:50.670 --> 02:09:54.890
was being the CIA's blocker and tackler to obstruct

02:09:55.809 --> 02:09:58.069
He was the he was the CIA's point of contact

02:09:58.069 --> 02:10:00.069
to Congress during the Iran -Contra scandal that

02:10:00.069 --> 02:10:03.289
Jeffrey Epstein was so deeply involved in and

02:10:03.289 --> 02:10:05.869
was blamed in the press at the time for being

02:10:05.869 --> 02:10:09.750
the person at CIA blocking Congress from seeing

02:10:09.750 --> 02:10:13.470
the CIA scant documents that were so central

02:10:13.470 --> 02:10:16.510
to the scandal Then he becomes the Attorney General

02:10:16.510 --> 02:10:18.329
of the United States and he writes the pardons

02:10:18.329 --> 02:10:23.109
of the BCCI officials Who was co -leading that

02:10:23.109 --> 02:10:25.279
investigation Robert Mueller? at the time, this

02:10:25.279 --> 02:10:28.619
is in the early 1990s, the first time, Bill Barr.

02:10:29.199 --> 02:10:33.779
So you have the BCCI Bear Stearns multi -billion

02:10:33.779 --> 02:10:37.420
dollar operation that appears to me that Jeffrey

02:10:37.420 --> 02:10:41.260
Epstein was working on and then took the clients

02:10:41.260 --> 02:10:43.119
from that deal as his own personal clients when

02:10:43.119 --> 02:10:46.340
he went private on his own. And Bill Barr is

02:10:46.340 --> 02:10:49.420
who lets the people from the crooked CIA bank

02:10:49.420 --> 02:10:52.560
off the hook. And then he becomes attorney general

02:10:52.560 --> 02:10:58.590
again And in 2019, he's the one in charge of

02:10:58.590 --> 02:11:00.750
the FBI. The FBI answers to the Justice Department.

02:11:01.050 --> 02:11:03.329
The FBI is the same relationship with justice

02:11:03.329 --> 02:11:05.569
that the CIA has with state. They're the investigative

02:11:05.569 --> 02:11:12.029
arm of the Justice Department. So I think it's

02:11:12.029 --> 02:11:16.090
hard to trust anyone on this. And I don't know

02:11:16.090 --> 02:11:20.890
what kind of file set the Trump FBI inherited

02:11:20.890 --> 02:11:26.000
after all this time. It's hard to make heads

02:11:26.000 --> 02:11:29.779
or tails of it to me. I think getting answers

02:11:29.779 --> 02:11:32.039
on the things that are immediately actionable

02:11:32.039 --> 02:11:34.819
Getting the CIA's direct correspondence with

02:11:34.819 --> 02:11:38.699
Jeffrey Epstein, you know that I mentioned a

02:11:38.699 --> 02:11:40.859
congressional bill that forces that because if

02:11:40.859 --> 02:11:44.699
it comes out that there are effectively in it

02:11:44.699 --> 02:11:49.760
an entire avalanche of classified Epstein files

02:11:49.760 --> 02:11:54.229
Dating back 40 years Then you've got the CIA

02:11:54.229 --> 02:11:56.550
attorney job. It puts these things in a very

02:11:56.550 --> 02:12:03.590
different light depending on whether The thing

02:12:03.590 --> 02:12:06.949
that is generated so much smoke this whole time

02:12:06.949 --> 02:12:13.350
the allegation of protection by US government

02:12:13.350 --> 02:12:18.470
intelligence and however many others To know

02:12:18.470 --> 02:12:22.220
that physical paper like we know that the CIA

02:12:22.220 --> 02:12:24.560
interfered in the Rolando mass for a trial like

02:12:24.560 --> 02:12:27.060
we know that the CIA contracted out to mafia

02:12:27.060 --> 02:12:29.159
hitman an attempt to kill a foreign president

02:12:29.159 --> 02:12:34.399
like we know that MK ultra actually was real

02:12:34.399 --> 02:12:38.260
we I mean these things you can't scale you know

02:12:38.260 --> 02:12:41.199
I think of things like a like a Jenga tower if

02:12:41.199 --> 02:12:46.399
if if a foundational piece is not solid you can

02:12:46.399 --> 02:12:50.140
scale a whole architecture of BS on top of it

02:12:50.140 --> 02:12:55.380
and if that assumption falls away this majestic

02:12:55.380 --> 02:12:59.079
looking you know tapestry of just years and years

02:12:59.079 --> 02:13:02.060
of effort collapses because the thing you assume

02:13:02.060 --> 02:13:05.560
to be true because it looked like there was so

02:13:05.560 --> 02:13:09.619
much smoke to to know it to be true that that

02:13:09.619 --> 02:13:12.579
is a solid piece that you can put the next piece

02:13:12.579 --> 02:13:16.710
on top of you know it's um There's that quote

02:13:16.710 --> 02:13:21.770
99 % is a bitch 100 % is a breeze What does that

02:13:21.770 --> 02:13:25.890
mean? It means when you're only 99 % sure of

02:13:25.890 --> 02:13:31.090
something you you always have to agonize well

02:13:31.090 --> 02:13:38.489
what if it's not true and it and I Think it is

02:13:38.489 --> 02:13:41.789
and I build all this stuff on top of it the 1

02:13:41.789 --> 02:13:45.539
% chance that that's not true means it would

02:13:45.539 --> 02:13:48.460
be a real bitch for me to spend years of effort

02:13:48.460 --> 02:13:51.819
on this thing, for me to spend millions of dollars

02:13:51.819 --> 02:13:54.239
on this thing, when it's based on assumption

02:13:54.239 --> 02:13:57.720
that it was only 99 % likely to be true, but

02:13:57.720 --> 02:14:00.300
1%, it may have been structured some way different.

02:14:00.300 --> 02:14:03.159
There might be something I missed in this. Whereas

02:14:03.159 --> 02:14:08.260
100 % is a breeze. Okay, it's automatic. And

02:14:08.260 --> 02:14:11.600
things like, this is why document drops like

02:14:11.600 --> 02:14:16.060
this are so vital. Not even necessarily because

02:14:16.060 --> 02:14:19.899
they have some single smoking gun that tells

02:14:19.899 --> 02:14:27.180
you who killed JFK or you know What client Jeffrey

02:14:27.180 --> 02:14:30.319
Epstein trafficked women to but because it allows

02:14:30.319 --> 02:14:35.779
you To put down real Jenga pieces about what

02:14:35.779 --> 02:14:39.159
actually happened and that process itself Allows

02:14:39.159 --> 02:14:41.039
you to ask the questions that might get you to

02:14:41.039 --> 02:14:47.090
those answers Makes a lot of sense Is there anything

02:14:47.090 --> 02:14:50.970
else you want to add to this I? Mean we could

02:14:50.970 --> 02:14:53.350
kind of go on for days. Yeah. Yeah, I mean you

02:14:53.350 --> 02:14:56.489
spend so much time on this stuff How do you have

02:14:56.489 --> 02:14:58.750
that kind of an attention span? It's kind of

02:14:58.750 --> 02:15:01.229
nuts. I mean I follow some of your live streams.

02:15:01.229 --> 02:15:06.859
I'm like First of all your recall is insane You

02:15:06.859 --> 02:15:08.960
know, I heard something once which I think is

02:15:08.960 --> 02:15:11.020
really helpful. I don't think I'm special in

02:15:11.020 --> 02:15:13.159
any way like this I think literally anyone can

02:15:13.159 --> 02:15:15.539
do this if you just kind of apply this kind of

02:15:15.539 --> 02:15:18.859
trick I heard this once it which is that if you

02:15:18.859 --> 02:15:25.279
read a history book Don't just read it Agnostically

02:15:25.279 --> 02:15:32.699
have a theory in mind about what you think This

02:15:32.699 --> 02:15:36.479
is and how it worked Even if you are wrong about

02:15:36.479 --> 02:15:40.180
that theory what you will find is that names

02:15:40.180 --> 02:15:45.739
dates locations Your brain will remember them

02:15:45.739 --> 02:15:51.659
forever because they're not You know if if I'm

02:15:51.659 --> 02:15:55.100
thinking about something that happened in You

02:15:55.100 --> 02:16:02.279
know, I don't know like November 11th 1983 okay,

02:16:02.300 --> 02:16:05.960
if if I see like that date on a driver's license

02:16:05.960 --> 02:16:09.979
card or something. And I have no theory of mind

02:16:09.979 --> 02:16:11.880
when I see that. I'm not gonna remember that

02:16:11.880 --> 02:16:14.619
five minutes from then. It's gonna be like trying

02:16:14.619 --> 02:16:19.279
to remember an 11 -string number or like someone's

02:16:19.279 --> 02:16:21.119
cell phone or something when you don't really

02:16:21.119 --> 02:16:23.720
know the person or you haven't dialed it a million

02:16:23.720 --> 02:16:26.720
times. But if you have a theory of mind that

02:16:26.720 --> 02:16:29.560
you are indexing those things in relation to,

02:16:29.979 --> 02:16:33.069
what you find is that your brain... keeps those

02:16:33.069 --> 02:16:38.909
in that index. So I've joked, because we've talked

02:16:38.909 --> 02:16:41.590
about this Iran -Contra affair, which was really

02:16:41.590 --> 02:16:44.889
the creation of this apparatus that we live under

02:16:44.889 --> 02:16:48.209
today, where because the CIA got handcuffs put

02:16:48.209 --> 02:16:52.059
on it, everything had to become CIA to get around

02:16:52.059 --> 02:16:54.399
those handcuffs. The universities had to be,

02:16:54.879 --> 02:16:58.139
the foundations, the private philanthropic donors.

02:16:58.719 --> 02:17:00.420
And this is what happened in the censorship industrial

02:17:00.420 --> 02:17:03.059
complex. It was all wrapped around this. But

02:17:03.059 --> 02:17:05.680
what you find is those dates mean something to

02:17:05.680 --> 02:17:08.239
you because they're placed in relation to something

02:17:08.239 --> 02:17:12.600
else that happens. I joke that I index things

02:17:12.600 --> 02:17:17.379
by Iran Contra often. For example, when I was...

02:17:17.159 --> 02:17:19.120
you know, studying about BCCI. And I learned,

02:17:19.260 --> 02:17:21.860
OK, this happened in 1984. I don't just think

02:17:21.860 --> 02:17:25.379
about 1984 as an abstract thing. I think, OK,

02:17:25.379 --> 02:17:28.520
well, that means it happened after the meeting

02:17:28.520 --> 02:17:31.020
between Robert McFarland and Anand Khashoggi,

02:17:31.040 --> 02:17:35.079
but before the, you know, the oil pipeline scandal

02:17:35.079 --> 02:17:39.239
of Ed Meese. And then so I remember that this

02:17:39.239 --> 02:17:41.860
thing happened on this date because I place it

02:17:41.860 --> 02:17:47.659
in the index and anyone. I think it's a. I think

02:17:47.659 --> 02:17:51.440
it's something that anyone, I think people organically

02:17:51.440 --> 02:17:53.239
do it when they're really passionate about something.

02:17:55.059 --> 02:17:58.040
And this is an easy thing to be passionate about

02:17:58.040 --> 02:18:03.719
because it gets to the heart of networks that

02:18:03.719 --> 02:18:07.520
are the determining power structures of your

02:18:07.520 --> 02:18:10.139
life. When you look up and then you look up at

02:18:10.139 --> 02:18:11.620
the thing that you're looking up at and you look

02:18:11.620 --> 02:18:15.559
up at the thing above that. This this is the

02:18:15.559 --> 02:18:17.879
network you see whether it's an intelligence

02:18:17.879 --> 02:18:22.139
military statecraft high finance private philanthropies

02:18:22.139 --> 02:18:26.360
universities labor unions scientific research

02:18:26.360 --> 02:18:29.360
Doesn't mean it's you know the Epstein network

02:18:29.360 --> 02:18:32.420
so to speak, but it's it's this this layer of

02:18:32.420 --> 02:18:36.559
interconnected human networks and I think it's

02:18:36.559 --> 02:18:40.520
an important history for the American people

02:18:40.520 --> 02:18:44.159
to have access to so that they can make informed

02:18:44.159 --> 02:18:46.299
decisions about how they want to change that

02:18:46.299 --> 02:18:49.159
world. They can make informed decisions about

02:18:49.159 --> 02:18:51.639
what to vote for. They can make informed decisions

02:18:51.639 --> 02:18:55.940
about what kind of industries that they're participating

02:18:55.940 --> 02:18:59.579
in that they might want to see reformed. And

02:18:59.579 --> 02:19:03.299
so it makes it easy to be passionate about, because

02:19:03.299 --> 02:19:06.079
if we can get a win here, it'll really change

02:19:06.079 --> 02:19:09.700
the world. Well, I think you do a great service

02:19:09.700 --> 02:19:12.520
and I think your abilities are exceptional. I

02:19:12.520 --> 02:19:13.959
think you're selling yourself short a little

02:19:13.959 --> 02:19:15.940
bit. You're being a little self -deprecating

02:19:15.940 --> 02:19:18.079
because it's very unusual what you're able to

02:19:18.079 --> 02:19:22.120
do. And I think just the sheer amount of time

02:19:22.120 --> 02:19:25.479
that you've invested in this stuff is kind of

02:19:25.479 --> 02:19:27.620
mind -boggling. Well, what would you like to

02:19:27.620 --> 02:19:31.639
see in this? Like if you had a wish list, what

02:19:31.639 --> 02:19:34.879
are the things that are open threads or? Well,

02:19:35.720 --> 02:19:39.399
The real concern with me is that it's unfixable

02:19:39.399 --> 02:19:43.360
and that this is just a standard way that our

02:19:43.360 --> 02:19:46.659
government has operated since the 1950s or whenever

02:19:46.659 --> 02:19:49.600
and it can't be fixed and that they'll just gloss

02:19:49.600 --> 02:19:53.479
over it. A new person will get into office and

02:19:53.479 --> 02:19:56.799
promise that they're gonna implement some reform

02:19:56.799 --> 02:19:59.680
and it never happens and that we just accept

02:19:59.680 --> 02:20:02.100
that over and over and over again. That's the

02:20:02.100 --> 02:20:04.879
real fear. The real fear is that there's a slow

02:20:04.879 --> 02:20:08.479
capture of our democracy to the point where it's

02:20:08.479 --> 02:20:11.200
just a mere illusion. That's the real fear. And

02:20:11.200 --> 02:20:12.739
I think a lot of people think that we've already

02:20:12.739 --> 02:20:15.420
passed the point of no return on that. That's

02:20:15.420 --> 02:20:17.040
what scares the shit out of a lot of people.

02:20:17.440 --> 02:20:20.159
And then when you see things that are happening

02:20:20.159 --> 02:20:24.139
in other countries, like particularly England,

02:20:24.500 --> 02:20:28.360
which is just rampant crackdown on free speech

02:20:28.360 --> 02:20:32.299
and what the the arrests from people that are

02:20:32.299 --> 02:20:35.860
posting things on social media sites and the

02:20:35.860 --> 02:20:39.180
implementations of there's a new thing that they

02:20:39.180 --> 02:20:42.799
tried to do, or I think they are doing, this

02:20:42.799 --> 02:20:45.579
concept of having a limited amount of time so

02:20:45.579 --> 02:20:48.059
you can drive outside of a zone, and after that

02:20:48.059 --> 02:20:49.840
you have to pay for it. That's a new thing, right?

02:20:50.219 --> 02:20:53.500
Yeah. Smart cities type concept. I can send this

02:20:53.500 --> 02:20:56.280
to you, Jamie, because I just sent it to Constantine,

02:20:56.579 --> 02:21:01.190
because it's... It appears to be real, and it's

02:21:01.190 --> 02:21:03.809
terrifying. Your carbon budget. Yeah, that's

02:21:03.809 --> 02:21:05.590
nuts. Well, look at what California's doing right

02:21:05.590 --> 02:21:10.569
now. What California is doing is they are taking,

02:21:12.049 --> 02:21:15.129
or they're moving forward with this, the idea

02:21:15.129 --> 02:21:20.510
that you have a tax on the amount of miles that

02:21:20.510 --> 02:21:24.850
you drive now. Instead of just taxing gas like

02:21:24.850 --> 02:21:27.950
they've always done now They're taxing you on

02:21:27.950 --> 02:21:29.389
the amount of miles that you drive We're already

02:21:29.389 --> 02:21:31.170
getting tax on that if you're driving more miles,

02:21:31.170 --> 02:21:32.989
you're spending more money on gas So you're getting

02:21:32.989 --> 02:21:35.250
you're spending more money on tax, but now they're

02:21:35.250 --> 02:21:37.870
taxing on top of that, which is essentially they're

02:21:37.870 --> 02:21:44.329
stealing money Yeah Why can't I find it? Forward

02:21:44.329 --> 02:21:51.409
here Jamie you're on you're on signal, right?

02:21:56.750 --> 02:21:59.069
It is really interesting how that whole thing.

02:21:59.069 --> 02:22:05.129
I said I'm single but but it's crazy that The

02:22:05.129 --> 02:22:07.670
California thing is bananas. It just says wow

02:22:07.670 --> 02:22:10.889
That's it. Oh, it doesn't have the link link.

02:22:10.889 --> 02:22:17.489
Okay, hold on Huh, oh, maybe this is it, okay

02:22:17.489 --> 02:22:25.760
I think there's a really interesting underdeveloped

02:22:25.760 --> 02:22:33.059
history around the origins of the. Climate. 2006,

02:22:33.379 --> 02:22:40.540
2005, 2006, 2007 really. Global warming climate

02:22:40.540 --> 02:22:44.799
kind of policy push from the US government. That

02:22:44.799 --> 02:22:48.200
became a runaway train as investor money rushed

02:22:48.200 --> 02:22:52.559
in. It's my it's my opinion. and I'm open -minded

02:22:52.559 --> 02:22:56.860
about it, but it appears to be the case, in my

02:22:56.860 --> 02:23:02.979
view, after a study of this, that the U .S. government,

02:23:03.659 --> 02:23:07.959
together with foreign allies, pursued this kind

02:23:07.959 --> 02:23:13.659
of demonization of carbon at a real policy level,

02:23:13.780 --> 02:23:19.180
or hydrocarbon -based fuels, as a kind of geopolitical

02:23:19.180 --> 02:23:22.780
battering ram. against newly resurgent Russia

02:23:22.780 --> 02:23:29.299
in the mid 2000s as as Putin was getting power

02:23:29.299 --> 02:23:34.659
back over a bunch of post post Soviet Eastern

02:23:34.659 --> 02:23:37.719
satellite countries through basically pipeline

02:23:37.719 --> 02:23:41.020
exploiting his leverage around pipelines and

02:23:41.020 --> 02:23:43.719
the fact that This is like the John McCain type

02:23:43.719 --> 02:23:45.979
quote, right? That Russia is a gas station with

02:23:45.979 --> 02:23:48.040
the military, right? You hear that a lot. You

02:23:48.040 --> 02:23:51.100
know, Gazprom, the state -sponsored oil company

02:23:51.100 --> 02:23:53.620
was, like, effectively the biggest oil company

02:23:53.620 --> 02:23:57.540
in... Well, Gazprom was for gas, but Rosnafton.

02:23:58.020 --> 02:24:02.979
Russia had, at one point, the largest oil exports

02:24:02.979 --> 02:24:05.379
in the world. It was the motor engine of their

02:24:05.379 --> 02:24:09.450
economy, oil and gas, and... the relationship

02:24:09.450 --> 02:24:12.649
between Russian oligarchs and businessmen and

02:24:12.649 --> 02:24:15.649
Eastern European Russian oligarchs and businessmen

02:24:15.649 --> 02:24:20.790
allowed that hydrocarbon based dependency and

02:24:20.790 --> 02:24:24.409
financial opportunity to let Putin reassert Russian

02:24:24.409 --> 02:24:27.969
control over Central and Eastern European countries

02:24:27.969 --> 02:24:34.350
that NATO was trying to turn into Western vassal

02:24:34.350 --> 02:24:37.479
states essentially. So you have this In the 1990s,

02:24:37.540 --> 02:24:39.420
this wasn't an issue because Boris Yeltsin was

02:24:39.420 --> 02:24:44.920
the president and he was effectively an adjunct

02:24:44.920 --> 02:24:48.920
of the U .S. government, incidentally through

02:24:48.920 --> 02:24:51.360
Larry Summers and the Jeffrey Epstein Harvard

02:24:51.360 --> 02:24:56.020
Network. But so there became this push after

02:24:56.020 --> 02:24:59.540
Russia's interventions in Georgia and the like

02:24:59.540 --> 02:25:03.200
and a big attack on a lot of, you know, high

02:25:03.200 --> 02:25:10.459
level Republican. Basically, I think this push

02:25:10.459 --> 02:25:16.959
to try to create a shift in the types of energy

02:25:16.959 --> 02:25:22.579
the world uses was a way to kneecap Russia's

02:25:22.579 --> 02:25:32.040
main source of revenue to ensure that the Eurasia

02:25:32.459 --> 02:25:35.600
That the plan to seize political or vassal state

02:25:35.600 --> 02:25:38.639
control over Eurasia would continue against Putin's

02:25:38.639 --> 02:25:43.360
new nationalist and global resurgence and This

02:25:43.360 --> 02:25:45.540
includes a bunch of crap that in 2003 2004 but

02:25:45.540 --> 02:25:47.120
effectively then you start to see the US government

02:25:47.120 --> 02:25:50.219
champion these Hydrocarbon policies and you started

02:25:50.219 --> 02:25:54.260
to see all of these international forums journals

02:25:54.260 --> 02:25:58.139
regulators openly talking in this mid -aughts

02:25:58.139 --> 02:26:01.329
period as Russia was starting to reclaim political

02:26:01.329 --> 02:26:07.590
influence that these climate policies would be

02:26:07.590 --> 02:26:11.530
a way to stop Russian power and influence because

02:26:11.530 --> 02:26:14.850
it would cripple them economically. There'd be

02:26:14.850 --> 02:26:18.389
no business between oligarchs in the different

02:26:18.389 --> 02:26:20.909
countries for them to even leverage. It would

02:26:20.909 --> 02:26:23.729
effectively allow us to continue the golden age

02:26:23.729 --> 02:26:27.149
of the uniparty 1990s moment. And then you saw

02:26:27.450 --> 02:26:31.950
all these government subsidies to it, tax benefits,

02:26:32.809 --> 02:26:35.870
free money basically. And then it became a runaway.

02:26:36.290 --> 02:26:39.790
As the market saw that this was a highly protected

02:26:39.790 --> 02:26:43.969
incentivized space by the US government, they

02:26:43.969 --> 02:26:45.969
all flooded in. Now they've got a sunk cost.

02:26:46.090 --> 02:26:49.409
If those policies change, you've got trillions

02:26:49.409 --> 02:26:52.659
of dollars in climate finance globally. And then

02:26:52.659 --> 02:26:55.920
these started becoming part of IMF loan requirements.

02:26:57.579 --> 02:26:59.879
But now it's like, even if the science is completely

02:26:59.879 --> 02:27:07.020
wrong, what started arguably is a kind of national

02:27:07.020 --> 02:27:11.620
security -based way to force energy diversification.

02:27:11.739 --> 02:27:13.760
This is what we put Europe through, the United

02:27:13.760 --> 02:27:16.280
States, with the sanctions against Russia. We

02:27:16.280 --> 02:27:19.719
forced them to divest of oil and gas and invest

02:27:19.719 --> 02:27:22.299
in a basket of you know, alternative energy cleaner

02:27:22.299 --> 02:27:26.059
energy supplies. But now it's and they and that

02:27:26.059 --> 02:27:28.520
could be justified at the national security level

02:27:28.520 --> 02:27:31.780
with the science of this actually being the case.

02:27:32.159 --> 02:27:36.620
So you could sell it to the whole world. Even

02:27:36.620 --> 02:27:39.260
if even if you prove that false at this point,

02:27:39.340 --> 02:27:41.920
there's there's so much infrastructure built

02:27:41.920 --> 02:27:46.420
up that, you know, you have this network, you

02:27:46.420 --> 02:27:51.579
have the hedge funds. Bill Gates has a climate

02:27:51.579 --> 02:27:55.600
fund. Al Gore is a billionaire from this one.

02:27:55.659 --> 02:27:58.620
Tom Steyer, one of the biggest investors in DNC,

02:27:58.799 --> 02:28:01.659
the climate impact fund. Michael Bills, who funded

02:28:01.659 --> 02:28:04.600
the CIA governor of Virginia, Abigail Spanbergler.

02:28:05.520 --> 02:28:07.620
And then the momentum of the, it's sort of an

02:28:07.620 --> 02:28:10.360
unstoppable social narrative now. Right, well,

02:28:10.760 --> 02:28:13.760
and the thing that's terrifying about it is that

02:28:13.760 --> 02:28:17.010
it has conjoined the diplomatic muscle of of

02:28:17.010 --> 02:28:20.750
the American government and whatever allies abroad

02:28:20.750 --> 02:28:24.870
with private finance. Like, for example, like

02:28:24.870 --> 02:28:27.270
we overthrew the government of Bangladesh in

02:28:27.270 --> 02:28:29.850
2024, the Biden administration did. They ran

02:28:29.850 --> 02:28:31.670
this whole coup. They did it through the National

02:28:31.670 --> 02:28:35.190
Down for Democracy. CIA cut out and a million

02:28:35.190 --> 02:28:37.049
other orgs on the ground. It was a color revolution

02:28:37.049 --> 02:28:39.750
street protest. You know, I think we may have

02:28:39.750 --> 02:28:43.729
talked about this last time where literally the

02:28:43.729 --> 02:28:48.690
CIA sock puppet national down for democracy sponsored

02:28:48.690 --> 02:28:52.290
like rap music videos and you know produced them

02:28:52.290 --> 02:28:55.389
and put them on YouTube and and then worked with

02:28:55.389 --> 02:28:57.530
the unions, you know set up like transgender

02:28:57.530 --> 02:29:00.129
dance festivals to try to get the you know, the

02:29:00.129 --> 02:29:02.309
LGBT community, you know on board against the

02:29:02.309 --> 02:29:04.489
government and then you know giant rise they

02:29:04.489 --> 02:29:07.350
install, you know, it's effectively a but part

02:29:07.350 --> 02:29:09.569
of the the thing that they they leaned on in

02:29:09.569 --> 02:29:12.329
the post -transition government is to You know

02:29:12.329 --> 02:29:16.440
agree to these You know basic basically like

02:29:16.440 --> 02:29:21.540
climate finance reforms and you can Just like

02:29:21.540 --> 02:29:24.940
the CIA in the oil industry became completely

02:29:24.940 --> 02:29:27.959
inseparable completely inseparable I mean George

02:29:27.959 --> 02:29:30.540
Bush for example Zapata energy offshore in the

02:29:30.540 --> 02:29:34.500
whole Texas oil thing and You know to then becoming

02:29:34.500 --> 02:29:36.639
the Central Intelligence Agency direct I mean

02:29:36.639 --> 02:29:38.899
Trump's first Secretary of State was Rex Tillerson

02:29:38.899 --> 02:29:41.100
Rex Tillerson never worked in government the

02:29:41.100 --> 02:29:42.959
Secretary of State oversees the CIA He's got

02:29:42.959 --> 02:29:46.129
the whole CIA portfolio As you know, well, he

02:29:46.129 --> 02:29:49.670
was the chairman and CEO of Exxon Mobil. You

02:29:49.670 --> 02:29:52.610
can't, the CIA and the U .S. military creates

02:29:52.610 --> 02:29:55.469
the market for oil companies. You can't get access

02:29:55.469 --> 02:29:58.889
to the oil unless you either overthrow a government

02:29:58.889 --> 02:30:01.790
or support against an insurgency political movement,

02:30:01.989 --> 02:30:03.930
one that will guarantee you favorable terms,

02:30:04.469 --> 02:30:06.750
you know, access, yada yada, the whole market.

02:30:07.129 --> 02:30:10.350
And then the CIA and DOD people will rotate into

02:30:10.350 --> 02:30:13.280
board seats on those oil companies. So it becomes

02:30:13.280 --> 02:30:16.620
inseparable and my fear about this is that over

02:30:16.620 --> 02:30:18.500
the past ten years the same thing has started

02:30:18.500 --> 02:30:22.899
to happen with the client the sort of you know

02:30:22.899 --> 02:30:29.219
clean energy side of the You know of big energy

02:30:29.219 --> 02:30:32.719
companies like in big oil and see big oil and

02:30:32.719 --> 02:30:36.959
CIA for a century now you have like Big climate

02:30:36.959 --> 02:30:40.000
and CIA because there's so much money. It's energies

02:30:40.000 --> 02:30:43.549
the master resource And so now you've got, you

02:30:43.549 --> 02:30:47.489
know, what appears to me, CIA intervention in

02:30:47.489 --> 02:30:49.170
part, like some of these things you have to wonder,

02:30:49.250 --> 02:30:54.870
why did the Biden CIA try to overthrow the Bolsonaro

02:30:54.870 --> 02:30:58.709
government in Brazil? This was a pro -U .S. political

02:30:58.709 --> 02:31:04.129
party. It was a the the person Lula was tied

02:31:04.129 --> 02:31:06.370
at the hip with China, divested from all these

02:31:06.370 --> 02:31:09.930
U .S. contracts, you know, massively reduced

02:31:09.930 --> 02:31:15.219
the you know, the footprint of US aligned policies

02:31:15.219 --> 02:31:18.280
in the second biggest country country in our

02:31:18.280 --> 02:31:22.340
hemisphere. And well, you know, Brazil just announced

02:31:22.340 --> 02:31:24.479
like this one point three trillion dollar climate

02:31:24.479 --> 02:31:27.479
finance initiative. And, you know, all of these

02:31:27.479 --> 02:31:31.319
people are all these New York hedge funds and

02:31:31.319 --> 02:31:33.719
London banks who've skated towards this are in

02:31:33.719 --> 02:31:37.200
on that. You have I mean, this is a crazy case.

02:31:37.940 --> 02:31:40.000
You know, one of the biggest beneficiaries of

02:31:40.239 --> 02:31:44.719
the post coup, Lula's government in Brazil, were

02:31:44.719 --> 02:31:48.639
all of the clean ethanol, George Soros' longest

02:31:48.639 --> 02:31:51.219
standing equity investment, at that point it

02:31:51.219 --> 02:31:54.879
was a company called Atacoagra, which did clean

02:31:54.879 --> 02:32:00.260
ethanol fuel alternatives. The problem is, it's

02:32:00.260 --> 02:32:02.379
part of its business, part of it is it's not

02:32:02.379 --> 02:32:07.120
competitive on price with diesel based fuels.

02:32:07.420 --> 02:32:10.600
so the only way to you know compete and win that

02:32:10.600 --> 02:32:12.520
market and make millions of dollars is if the

02:32:12.520 --> 02:32:17.319
government imposes a Mandate a quota that forces

02:32:17.319 --> 02:32:20.299
people to buy your product. Well, George Soros

02:32:20.299 --> 02:32:23.579
co -sponsored those CIA adjacent national down

02:32:23.579 --> 02:32:27.059
for democracy operations all over Brazil Well,

02:32:27.079 --> 02:32:30.000
he's you know holding an equity interest in the

02:32:30.000 --> 02:32:32.280
thing that day one There's an imposed mandate

02:32:32.280 --> 02:32:35.040
to use those those climate products. It's the

02:32:35.040 --> 02:32:38.260
same thing in Africa you have like CIA regime

02:32:38.260 --> 02:32:40.360
change to force clean energy companies so that

02:32:40.360 --> 02:32:43.680
the people who sponsor the the the donors who

02:32:43.680 --> 02:32:46.260
sponsor the politicians who pick the staff of

02:32:46.260 --> 02:32:49.799
the CIA Enacts policies that makes money for

02:32:49.799 --> 02:32:52.680
those hedge funds invested in in climate finance

02:32:52.680 --> 02:32:55.659
So fucked up. I think that's what's happening

02:32:55.659 --> 02:32:58.500
in California Without the regime change element.

02:32:58.500 --> 02:33:02.059
I think it the kind of you know, I Think you

02:33:02.059 --> 02:33:05.979
have investors who profit And the only way those

02:33:05.979 --> 02:33:08.479
investments can be profitable is if government

02:33:08.479 --> 02:33:13.360
imposes mandates, quotas, and bans on alternatives

02:33:13.360 --> 02:33:14.780
to that product. I mean, that's kind of the way

02:33:14.780 --> 02:33:19.180
the vaccine market works. Do you have that link?

02:33:20.159 --> 02:33:27.639
Yeah. Should we play it? Yeah, just play it.

02:33:31.340 --> 02:33:33.399
They just set up their little 15 -minute city,

02:33:33.760 --> 02:33:36.079
and they are now charging people for leaving

02:33:36.079 --> 02:33:39.559
the city. You get 100 free days. They call it

02:33:39.559 --> 02:33:42.000
a free day. You get a free pass to leave the

02:33:42.000 --> 02:33:45.020
15 -minute city. And if you exceed your 100 free

02:33:45.020 --> 02:33:48.520
days, you have to pay the US dollar equivalent

02:33:48.520 --> 02:33:53.200
of $93 per day. And if you live outside of the

02:33:53.200 --> 02:33:55.139
15 -minute city and you want to travel into the

02:33:55.139 --> 02:33:58.520
15 -minute city, you get 25 free passes. Free

02:33:58.520 --> 02:34:00.260
movement. Oh, the government's giving you free

02:34:00.260 --> 02:34:02.799
movement capability. You get 25 free passes.

02:34:03.100 --> 02:34:08.020
And if you exceed those 25 days, it's $93 a day.

02:34:08.520 --> 02:34:10.100
And how are they tracking all this? Oh, there's

02:34:10.100 --> 02:34:13.520
not a man at the gate. They're not writing up

02:34:13.520 --> 02:34:15.299
tickets or having police officers set up. Oh,

02:34:15.319 --> 02:34:19.040
no, they are monitoring you with digital AI surveillance

02:34:19.040 --> 02:34:21.739
and cameras. And then they're automatically finding

02:34:21.739 --> 02:34:23.940
you. This is why we have to be against the flock

02:34:23.940 --> 02:34:26.090
cameras. in the United States. They're not just

02:34:26.090 --> 02:34:28.149
speed trap cameras. This is why we have to be

02:34:28.149 --> 02:34:29.989
against the Palantir whole of government database.

02:34:30.329 --> 02:34:32.649
This is why we have to stand up and raise awareness

02:34:32.649 --> 02:34:34.829
and bring attention to these matters instead

02:34:34.829 --> 02:34:37.809
of arguing with each other. And NPCs on the internet

02:34:37.809 --> 02:34:40.489
over left versus right issues are my side, your

02:34:40.489 --> 02:34:42.110
side. They are keeping us artificially divided

02:34:42.110 --> 02:34:43.629
because they are setting up this infrastructure

02:34:43.629 --> 02:34:47.450
in the United States right now. Divide and conquer.

02:34:47.590 --> 02:34:49.709
We are in the division part of the divide and

02:34:49.709 --> 02:34:52.899
conquer agenda. Conquer is next. You think it's

02:34:52.899 --> 02:34:55.260
bad now, wait till you have to pay $100 a day

02:34:55.260 --> 02:35:00.700
to leave your 15 minute city. Right. So only

02:35:00.700 --> 02:35:02.780
rich people are going to be able to afford that.

02:35:02.819 --> 02:35:05.200
It's just like the meat thing, right? It's like,

02:35:05.680 --> 02:35:10.719
you know, the irony of, you know, Australia being

02:35:10.719 --> 02:35:13.559
a prison colony. And now you've got now it's

02:35:13.559 --> 02:35:16.399
like the homeland in the UK. But I mean, look,

02:35:16.579 --> 02:35:19.200
the UK just got rid of like jury trials for a

02:35:19.200 --> 02:35:23.709
lot of cases. And yeah. You know, as 12 ,000

02:35:23.709 --> 02:35:26.010
speech arrests a year and some people arrested

02:35:26.010 --> 02:35:27.649
for what seems like even holding up their own

02:35:27.649 --> 02:35:29.729
country's flag at an opportune moment or silently

02:35:29.729 --> 02:35:35.469
praying. And, you know, we need to liberate the

02:35:35.469 --> 02:35:40.370
British people. I mean, it's unbelievable that,

02:35:41.010 --> 02:35:44.350
I mean, they call it perfidious albion, right?

02:35:44.770 --> 02:35:48.110
British statecraft has been so pernicious to

02:35:48.110 --> 02:35:51.799
the American people in the past decade. It was

02:35:51.799 --> 02:35:55.700
Russiagate. The entire three year special prosecutor

02:35:55.700 --> 02:35:57.739
saga was because of a British spy, Christopher

02:35:57.739 --> 02:36:04.579
Steele, and an Iran -Contra veteran, Stefan Halper,

02:36:05.600 --> 02:36:07.920
residing abroad at Cambridge to kick that off.

02:36:08.639 --> 02:36:13.899
And then the British government conspired with

02:36:13.899 --> 02:36:18.489
the Biden administration. to create, to conjoin

02:36:18.489 --> 02:36:23.090
the US -UK censorship industrial complex. America

02:36:23.090 --> 02:36:27.309
First Legal, Stephen Miller and Gene Hamilton's

02:36:27.309 --> 02:36:29.750
non -profit law firm they started, obtained these

02:36:29.750 --> 02:36:35.030
incredible documents that showed a planning meeting

02:36:35.030 --> 02:36:36.850
between the British government and the Biden

02:36:36.850 --> 02:36:41.590
administration attended by the CIA, the National

02:36:41.590 --> 02:36:44.530
Security Council, USAID, hosted the White House,

02:36:44.610 --> 02:36:47.829
and it was the British, the UK Digital Commission,

02:36:48.690 --> 02:36:51.670
they brought a huge slide deck of all of the

02:36:51.670 --> 02:36:53.649
ways that their new censorship law, what's today

02:36:53.649 --> 02:36:58.250
called the Online Safety Act, the OSA, would

02:36:58.250 --> 02:37:01.350
effectively help throttle misinformation in the

02:37:01.350 --> 02:37:06.569
United States. Basically, it was like, you scratch

02:37:06.569 --> 02:37:08.709
your back, our back, we'll scratch yours, and

02:37:08.709 --> 02:37:12.680
it was this... U .S. Democrat Party, U .K. Labor

02:37:12.680 --> 02:37:15.319
Party alliance. Meanwhile, the Biden government

02:37:15.319 --> 02:37:19.780
was paying British censors. The Global Disinformation

02:37:19.780 --> 02:37:23.840
Index, which, you know, killed, like, the ad

02:37:23.840 --> 02:37:27.000
revenue for, like, they went after Daily Wire,

02:37:27.139 --> 02:37:30.280
Federalist, a million conservative news sites

02:37:30.280 --> 02:37:32.100
and social media accounts, you know, went after

02:37:32.100 --> 02:37:33.780
the social media platforms in the United States.

02:37:34.020 --> 02:37:37.200
They're British black ops by their own language.

02:37:38.040 --> 02:37:42.829
Well, CCDH. They were funded by our government

02:37:42.829 --> 02:37:45.670
to censor our voices, but laundered out to the

02:37:45.670 --> 02:37:49.790
UK. And I think we need to fundamentally restructure

02:37:49.790 --> 02:37:51.889
that special relationship. We've had that relationship

02:37:51.889 --> 02:37:58.909
for a long time, totally unquestioned. We can't

02:37:58.909 --> 02:38:03.909
farm that out. And if that's not addressed and

02:38:03.909 --> 02:38:08.250
we don't fix that relationship, I think you can't

02:38:08.250 --> 02:38:13.600
really fix our own. unless we, you know, cut

02:38:13.600 --> 02:38:16.639
out some of the poison that we inject from the

02:38:16.639 --> 02:38:20.540
outside. Well, Mike, we gave people a lot to

02:38:20.540 --> 02:38:24.239
go over. Almost too much. But you, if anybody

02:38:24.239 --> 02:38:28.540
wants more, your ex -account is amazing. You're

02:38:28.540 --> 02:38:31.579
tireless. I don't know how you do it, but thank

02:38:31.579 --> 02:38:33.579
you for doing it. I really appreciate you, and

02:38:33.579 --> 02:38:35.440
I appreciate you coming on here. Oh, thanks so

02:38:35.440 --> 02:38:38.600
much for having me. Nothing but fun from here.

02:38:38.680 --> 02:38:42.399
I mean look it's fun I mean guys or the world

02:38:42.399 --> 02:38:45.639
is opening up and we are seeing behind a looking

02:38:45.639 --> 02:38:47.799
glass where there has been a veil of secrecy

02:38:47.799 --> 02:38:51.040
For 60 years about some of these things for 10

02:38:51.040 --> 02:38:53.260
years about some of these things. So don't get

02:38:53.260 --> 02:38:56.739
too black -pilled. This is Something has happened

02:38:56.739 --> 02:38:58.819
that has never happened before and you are alive

02:38:58.819 --> 02:39:02.180
to experience it. So, you know trying to enjoy

02:39:02.180 --> 02:39:02.700
the ride