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Welcome to this curated educational transcript of the Joe Rogan Experience. In this session, we provide a deep-dive examination of the critical perspectives and historical dialogues presented in Episode #2246. Our mission is to offer a high-fidelity, searchable research resource for students of cultural history, emerging technology, and global discourse. This transcript has been specifically optimized for academic reference, linguistic study, and archival preservation regarding Comedy Dynamics, Social Satire, and Modern Media Evolution in 2026
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Experience. Trained by day, Joe Rogan podcast

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by night, all day. Oh, Alpha Brain? I just took

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some Alpha Brain, so I'm going to be fucking

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sharp. I've got this stuff, too, if you want

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it. It's an energy drink that also has nootropics

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in it. Oh, yeah? Yeah, good stuff. Gregory! Joseph.

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Good to see you, my friend. Good to see you,

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man. The world's on fire. World is on fire. Good

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time for you to come in. Whoo, I mean I literally

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I mean talked about being addicted to your scroll

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I got a really put the fucking phone down sometimes.

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I know yeah, it's not good No, I'm good for your

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brain to see all the problems of the world all

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pilot and everything looks like it's about to

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blow up Yeah, Iran looks like it's about to blow

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up. They're talking about going to Cuba on lemon

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went to jail It's like it's all crazy It's like

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what you know when jail gives you lemons And

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it's also like, what's that whole theory about

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we're only supposed to be exposed to, like, 200

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people in our life? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's

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Dunbar's number. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Well, you

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only can keep that many people in your head.

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But you should only know about that many divorces

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and that much cheating and that much killing

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as would happen within 200. And crime. And you

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fill in the blank. Right. You know, fraud, waste,

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abuse, international politics, restrictions on

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speech in England. Yeah. This is a fucking crazy

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story. This guy in England, an illegal alien,

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was a squatter in his house. The court ruled

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that because he didn't live in the house, the

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guy didn't live in the house, it was an empty

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house, they gave him the house. They gave the

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squatter the house. The squatter sold it for

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540 grand. The squatter sold his house. Took

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his house because he was living it. And this

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guy was like a pensioner. He was just a guy who

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had like an extra house like a fucking Investment

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property. You're right and this guy moved into

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it. Have you seen it Jamie? I Don't know somebody

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sent it to me today. They had that in New York

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it back in the 70s and 80s There was a lot of

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empty units like down on the Lower East Side

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Like Tompkins Square Park area. There was a lot

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of squatting. Yeah, this is it Squatter moved

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in the pinchers empty home then won the legal

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right to keep it and sold the house for 500 I

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guess 540 is that euros or pounds is that pounds?

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What's that? Yeah, England has pants. That's

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fucking crazy So crazy England has lost its fucking

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mind. It's almost like they want people to either

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revolt or Completely submit it's one or the other

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It's like you're either begging for a revolution

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or you're begging for people to completely submit.

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They've arrested 12 ,000 people this year for

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social media posts. Oh, that's right. And most

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of it is criticizing immigration. Just criticizing

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immigration. Just saying immigration sucks. We

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should send these people back home. Cops show

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up at your door. Right. Crazy. Well, TikTok is

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now not allowing people to post anything that

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is anti -ice. Not that not just that you can't

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post the juice box emoji. What's that because

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it's code for Jews Because people were using

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it because they were they were blocking content

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where they were criticizing Israel Wait, why

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is the juice box Jews? I don't know juice juice

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It is funny but Did they block the use this is

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somebody sent me this I haven't verified this

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they blocked the use of the word Epstein I'm

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out on the app, but I saw a video of someone

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trying, you know, yeah, let's run that through

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perplexity See if perplexity will rat out tick

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-tock Right cuz that's um, it's so crazy. They

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would do it because they just purchased it, right?

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So it was just purchased by some What is the

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group? Is it did Larry Ellison's group purchase

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it? Yes. Okay, which is a tremendous supporter

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of Netanyahu in Israel Right. So yeah, there

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you go. So you got censored news now So any criticism

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of Palestine what's going on in Gaza? All that

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stuff's gonna get squashed probably Ticktock

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says does not have a rule that bans or blocks

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the word Epstein across the app But many us users

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have recently been unable to send that word in

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direct messages And what I have a friend His

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name is Bobby Epstein. Totally unrelated. He's

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the guy who owns the Koda racetrack. He's a good

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friend of mine. I can't send a message saying

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I was just talking to my friend Bobby Epstein.

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Oh, no shit. That's crazy. Wow. Epstein is a

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super common name. Yeah. That's a super, it's

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like Jones. It was on Welcome Back, Cotter. Right.

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Yeah. Epstein from Welcome Back, Cotter, that's

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right. You can't talk about him anymore. He played

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my brother on news radio. No. Yes. Him, Nick

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DePaulo, and Brian Callan played my brothers,

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and we all just beat the shit out of each other

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through the entire episode. It was hilarious.

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It's amazing. They had Nick threw me through

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a play glass window, and then the brother shows

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up. Epstein was a priest, and he showed up with

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a bat, and we were all scared. of our older brother.

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It was really funny. He was the Jew, the Puerto

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Rican Jew from Brooklyn. He's great. He's a really

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nice guy too. So what else does it say here?

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Newsom to probe claims of Trump critical censorship

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on TikTok. I think they're fucking blocking a

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lot of things on certain social media. platforms.

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What's your big picture take on whether or not

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social media platforms, which are privately owned,

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have a responsibility that, say, regular broadcast

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networks would have in terms of not censoring

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things? problem is they censor things. They don't

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just report on the news. They report on what

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they decide they're going to report on. It's

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a CNN hourly news segment. They have no responsibility

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to tell you about any particular story. None.

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Zero. So they'll wait until something becomes

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unmanageable before they'll start talking about

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it. So if something starts getting traction on

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social media, like some sort of a corruption

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scandal, if it's a left -wing scandal, they can

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ignore it. And they have no obligation. It's

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not like we have to tell you about these very...

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It's not like we ran it through AI, there's 20

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things that the American public has to know about.

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So they censor, or at least they curate the content.

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I think for social media platforms, if Elon Musk

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didn't buy Twitter, we would be fucked. because

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there would be no place where you could say whatever

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you want, even heinous things, right? But if

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someone says heinous things, you can block them

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and not interact with them. And you can let other

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people tear them down and tear them apart. And

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that's how it's supposed to be. It's supposed

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to be, you don't counter hate speech with censorship.

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You counter it with better speech. And you appeal

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to rational people and sensible people that go,

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this is why this guy is wrong. This is why racism

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is wrong. This is why rash generalizations are

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wrong. This is why it's wrong. Yeah, and that's

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how you're supposed to do it It's supposed to

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be a free speech town hall platform It's supposed

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to be like the town square where everybody can

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get together and talk about ideas And that's

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how it should be right and there's been a lot

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of calls that say that you shouldn't be able

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to be Anonymous on social media that you should

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have consequences for your actions The problem

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with that is, then you lose all your whistleblowers,

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right? All the whistleblowers that are talking

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about giant corporations that are doing horrible

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things to the environment, secretly in other

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countries, which we find out about all the time.

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Like the Stephen Dozinger case where that guy

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got arrested, he was prosecuted. Was it Exxon,

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the Dozinger case? But it's like whistleblowers

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are important. Yes. You know, and if you don't

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have whistleblowers, you don't find out. Like

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if Edward Snowden doesn't come out, we know so

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little about the NSA. We know so little about

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government spying. And yeah, he's an American

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former attorney known for his legal bout of Chevron,

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particularly with. So he was arrested and he

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went to jail, man, for criminal contempt. I mean,

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that's First Amendment, isn't it? I don't know

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exactly the details of the case. He spent 45

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days in prison and a combined total of 993 days

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under house arrest. Wow. Not only do they go

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to jail, it depletes all your savings. If they

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decide to prosecute you, your life is ruined.

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That's part of the point of it all. It's to also

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discourage other people from doing the same thing.

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So if you're an attorney and you're thinking

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of prosecuting ... Shell you're not gonna do

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that. Yeah, fuck this. You know, I have a fucking

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house, right? I'm trying to buy a Porsche You

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know, I mean yeah, it's uh, it's a it's a It's

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a weird thing because I know right now to cover

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the Pentagon, no journalist can go into the Pentagon

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unless they sign an agreement to only put out

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government -sponsored press releases. Government

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approved? Government approved. So now you've

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got very few people inside the Pentagon, which

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is where the whistleblowing was happening. They're

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in the back halls of the Pentagon. That's crazy.

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But then you see the problem with the Pentagon

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is you're talking about national security. And

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if someone released something like the name of

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an agent that was undercover somewhere and something

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happened, that person got killed or compromised

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or some sort of a national security interest,

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you know, was the whole thing was tanked. Yeah,

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that's the Pentagon's different. I mean, I'm

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not saying that the press shouldn't have access

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to Pentagon officials. They certainly should.

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But it's like going there is kind of different,

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right? It's like the FBI just arrested, they

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just had a giant sweep on gangs in this country

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today. They just released that they found like,

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I think it was 10 kilos of drugs, they arrested

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50 people. Like cartel gangs? Cartels in America.

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And so they made a giant arrest today. I think

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they arrested 200. See if you can find what that

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story is. But like imagine if you were in the

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FBI office and you heard about an imminent attack

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and you printed something. Like if you're a reporter,

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and you're covering this stuff, and you have

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access to this information somehow, and it gets

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released, and these guys find out about it, and

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they skate. They nabbed 50 Latin Kings in Operation

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Broken Crown after a three -month sweep. So what

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is the details of it? Okay, last three months,

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the FBI has quietly executed... Okay, this is

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on X. Quietly executed, Operation Broken Crown,

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a sweeping violent gang takedown involving 13

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field offices targeting the Latin Kings gangs,

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members which were publicly threatening law enforcement

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officers, 50 arrests, $200 ,000 in seized assets,

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seizure of 10 kilos of illicit narcotics. Interesting.

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Interesting. Well, so like that kind of a situation

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you can't have access to that information before

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they do it that has to be very tight -lipped

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You know, there's only a few of those kind of

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scenarios that I can imagine but when it comes

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to like Politicians and backdoor deals like there

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should be live footage of it Well, you only found

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out about the bomb the illegal bombings in Cambodia

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because there was a whistleblower inside of the

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Pentagon exactly Exactly, so it does you do need

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some access. Yeah, but it's like what you need

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whistleblowers, right? Right. It's like how many

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people there's here's the thing about like intelligence

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agencies There's a lot of good people that are

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working there It's like we judge them based on

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the evil people that are probably the ones with

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the most power You know, yes There's probably

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a lot of like mid -level people working at the

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Pentagon working at the sea at working everywhere

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that are good people Are you kidding me? These

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are people that have dedicated their lives to

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trying to you know, I believe same way with cops

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I think yeah, I got I got three good buddies

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that are cops and they are Absolutely went into

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it the same the way a social worker goes into

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it. Yes, and then there's evil ones that You

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know, I think it was worse I think back, like,

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you know, back in the days of, like, Serpico,

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you ever see that movie? Like, it was literally

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like the entire force was in on it. You know,

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there was fucking legal gambling, legal drug

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dealing. Nobody got touched. Yep, yep. Yeah,

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they've always done that. I mean, that's how

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they ran the mob in Vegas. Yeah, the mob ran

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Vegas with the cops. Oh, yeah. We're just talking

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about that outside. Why was Vegas in Atlantic

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City the only places allowed? I don't know why

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I asked that. Like, he's like, because of the

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mob, asshole. Well, it was the mob. And I think

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Nevada, there was also see if this is true. There

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was supposedly a connection between the testing

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of nuclear weapons and then allowing the city

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or the state rather to have gambling because

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Nevada was one of the rare places where they

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Like routinely tested nuclear weapons. Oh, yeah

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I don't know if you've ever seen the video that

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shows a history of all the atomic bombs going

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off in the United States The video is crazy because

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it starts with the first test starts with the

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Trinity test starts They do the couple in the

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ocean. What's the matter? What's so funny? What

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is it I asked if there's a connection between

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nuclear tests and gambling in Las Vegas and Turns

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out yet. They would use it as a theme to attract

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gamblers What? Come see a bomb. From the early

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1950s to the 1960s Las Vegas casinos and tourism

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promoters actively used nearby nuclear weapons

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tests as themed attraction to draw gamblers and

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visitors. Holy shit man. Bomb parties. Oh my

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god, they had bomb parties on the rooftop. They

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would watch, they'd stay up gambling, drinking,

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and then step outside to watch the blast on the

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horizon. Wow. Oh my god. Dude, it's like how

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Caesar's does fireworks now. They had atomic

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themed promotions, atomic cocktails, atomic hairdos,

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nuclear pinup imagery like Miss Atomic Blast.

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Slogans like Atomic City USA. and up in Adam

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to tie the test directly to Vegas nightlife and

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gambling culture. Holy shit, man. I wonder if

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you could place bets. Dude, I bet your eyebrows

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singed off. I don't know if they had the same

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thing like what they have now with modern prediction

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betting. Prediction betting, you can bet on pretty

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much everything. I just made a bet last night

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on... Go back down to where you were. In short,

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nuclear weapons tests near Las Vegas were not

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just a backdrop. They were deliberately woven

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into casino marketing, party culture, and tourism

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that supported the city's gambling economy. Here's

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my question. Was Nevada allowed to have gambling

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because of them allowing nuclear tests? Like,

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was there any sort of an agreement? Because there's

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only two states at that time that allowed casinos,

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like, real casinos. And it seems kind of weird

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that one of them, you know, New Jersey's always

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been fucking corrupt. That's the Sopranos. I

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mean, it's like the most mob -ridden fucking

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state in the country at the time. Based in Atlantic

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City, pretty much. Yeah, I mean, cut the fucking

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shit. Atlantic City. And then Vegas was Bugsy

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Siegel, right? Okay, well since Nevada legalized

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most forced gambling in 31. Okay, so it doesn't

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make any sense because it's before that So it's

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the Great Depression economic measure tractors.

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So no, so that that theory doesn't hold up I

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didn't know that Vegas was started 31. That's

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nuts. So basically the Great Depression started

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and then they launched Vegas as a as a way to

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raise money Which is hilarious. You have no money.

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There's no jobs. Why don't you gamble? What?

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My gamble is going to the food line, seeing if

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I can get a loaf of bread. That's my gamble today.

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You know what's crazy is that lake keeps drying

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up because they were having a drought. They keep

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finding bodies in the lake. Oh, no shit. Oh,

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yeah, yeah, yeah. Like those metal barrels with

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like bodies inside of them. They've found quite

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a few of them. How many bodies have they found?

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Is it Lake Mead, I believe? Yes, as it's drying

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up. It's at like it was I think it's probably

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picked up a little bit But at one point in time

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was at a historic low yeah, and so they were

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finding these fucking dead bodies I think they

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found like a half a dozen of them And I think

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they think there's a whole lot more in there

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no shit as of last latest reporting at least

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six separate discoveries of human remains Yeah,

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we're made in Lake Mead in 2022 as the water

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level dropped represent representing at least

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several different individuals Find out that thing

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where they stopped searching for guns and bodies

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I think it was in MacArthur Park and why they

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did that David tell back in his insomniac days

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used to hang it he hang out hung out with some

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dark motherfuckers in New York and he used to

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bring this guy in who was a he was a New York

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City cop and they basically said we'll double

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your pay and give you early retirement if you

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put on a frog suit every night and you go out

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into I think it was Flushing Bay one of the bays

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out in Queens, which was a famous place where

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the mob was dropping bodies and The guy would

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go into the water in a frog suit and he'd wait

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by this bridge and when they drop a body He'd

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fucking call it in and he did that the night

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shift and he'd finish that and he'd come into

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the comedy cellar at like 4 a .m So you're waiting

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the ocean a scuba suit drop a body. Yeah Holy

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shit, they were dropping that many bodies that

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you can just wait for. That's so crazy. Searcher

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MacArthur Park for guns and possible bodies was

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stopped because authorities said it was an unpermitted

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and potentially unsafe operation on city park

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property. Okay, so it was a businessman. So it

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was a private thing. So that's probably what

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it was. So officials official reasons given organizers

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led by businessman John I don't know how to spell

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his name a LLE. How do you say that ale LA? Plan

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to use sonar and remotely operated vehicles look

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for weapons and human remains in the lake Los

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Angeles Park Rangers halted the effort before

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the sonar entered the water saying the team did

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not have the required permits or clearances Okay,

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why didn't you guys do that though? If this guy

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really thinks that there could be bodies and

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guns in the lake, why wouldn't you guys search

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for bodies and guns if someone could search for

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it? It seems like there's probably a lot of people

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missing, a lot of crimes that could be solved,

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a lot of resources that have already been spent

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on cases. You could probably get to the bottom

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of a lot of things. Allay Ale, I don't know his

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name, said families of missing people, some of

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whom were last seen near MacArthur Park, had

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reached out to him for help, which inspired the

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idea of a large -scale sonar search of the lake.

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There's evidence down there for crimes, he said.

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We'll identify it with photography and the city

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will have to extract it. It also could be these

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are homeless people and... The government doesn't

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give a shit. They can't swim. Come on, they were

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kids once. It's hard to swim when you're on meth.

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You have bad cardio. You know, if one guy says,

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this is the last day I do meth, today I get in

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shape, and tries to swim across the lake, and

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fucking strokes out in the middle of it. This

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is my day. Never gave him a, oh geez, I'm in

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there. What are they saying about me? It's an

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ad. Oh, it's an ad? Yeah, it's an ad down at

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the bottom. Oh. I mocked the AI -generated, that

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was crazy, the AI -generated photo that MSNBC

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put up of the guy who got shot in Minneapolis.

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They changed his appearance. Alex Preti? Yes.

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They changed his appearance in what way? They

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made him handsome. Oh, they did? Oh, you haven't

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seen it? No. You have to see it. You have to

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see it. I don't know who's doing this. It's almost

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like... Like someone from the Republican side

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is like a secret plant at MSNBC Because they

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know that stuff like this is gonna get caught

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look at the difference between the one on the

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left and one on the right Well, the nose looks

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blurry on the one on the left. Well, that's his

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nose. That's what he looks like It's just a shitty

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picture, but they cleaned the picture up. They

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made his nose smaller. They gave him a tan They

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made his forehead shorter. They made his jaw

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wider. They made his shoulders thicker Yeah,

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they gave him more bicep They made him more handsome.

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They made his neck thicker. He looks better.

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The guy on the right looks like a good -looking

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guy. The guy on the left looks like Ari's unfortunate

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brother. Doesn't he? Poor Ari's brother. I mean,

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it's so funny that Ari comes from this family.

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I mean, he grew up Orthodox Jewish, right? Oh,

00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:06.319
yeah. And the things that he has put out there,

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For a family to have to see, it makes you realize,

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and they love them, like they accept it. And

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it's all about grace. And I love Jews because

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they are very accepting. As much as you might

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be Orthodox, I find my wife is half Jewish. There's

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something very open -minded about Jews I mean

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they were the original hippies and they were

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the original communists in America and they were

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always open to different ideas and I think when

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I think about Ari's family if they were Christian

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conservative versus Jewish conservative where

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I don't know that they'd be as accepting of him

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You know Ari's dad survived the Holocaust. No

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shit. Oh, yeah Ari's dad has a tattoo damn. Yeah

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He's very old Yeah. He must be one of the oldest

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people left with the tattoo. I mean... Yeah,

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he talked to me about having his dad on. He asked

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me if I'd be interested in it, if his dad ever

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wants to do it, because, you know, he doesn't

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have much time left. And I said, absolutely.

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And he goes, you know, let me... I'm not sure

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if he'd be interested in it, but if he did, I

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think it would be important to talk about. I

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mean, he's got to be over 100 years old. I don't

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know how old he is. He's old, though. Well, how

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long ago was he 45? You would have to have been

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born... Oh, no, actually, if he was born in 1935...

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I think he was in his 80s, his late 80s. Okay,

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yeah, yeah, yeah, what am I thinking? Right,

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right. Because they tattooed the fucking kids.

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Mm -hmm. Yeah. Jesus. Yeah, it's dark. It's horrible.

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It's so crazy, dude. It's so crazy that that

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was less than 100 years ago. I know, I know.

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And the Germans like that. fucking Norm MacDonald

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bit about how you know Germany is the country

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we really should be afraid of like the way they

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start world wars and what they're like it's really

00:24:01.710 --> 00:24:04.170
fucking nuts. Well they were the barbarians back

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in the day. Oh right. You know they mean we think

00:24:07.210 --> 00:24:10.890
of now as engineers they make BMWs but back then

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they were the barbarians during the Roman era.

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I guess the Vikings were Scandinavian and then

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they were fighting against the Vikings. The Germans

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were fucking terrifying. Yeah. They were terrifying.

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And they all became engineers. They became brilliant,

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very disciplined people, which is interesting

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because Germany is known for that. shit porn

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remember like in the early days of the internet

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a lot of the shit porn like weird crazy dog fucking

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a lot of that was coming and we were trying to

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analyze it one day i was like it's probably because

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if you're so buttoned down and so disciplined

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and regimented and conservative in your daily

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life the way you cut loose it's like you shit

00:24:51.589 --> 00:24:53.609
in each other's mouths and fuck each other in

00:24:53.609 --> 00:24:56.849
the butt like some of the craziest shit porn

00:24:56.849 --> 00:24:59.329
was coming out of germany yeah this was like

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Late 90s early 2000s when we first started like

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finding weird websites that would you know, you'd

00:25:06.089 --> 00:25:08.549
be able to find things on Oh, no before that

00:25:08.549 --> 00:25:10.329
I'd go to sex world in New York where you sit

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in those booths and you put in quarters and you

00:25:12.190 --> 00:25:15.309
watch porn and they always had the Darkest German

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porn in there. Really? Yeah a lot of animals

00:25:18.130 --> 00:25:21.069
and shit and I'm like I'm like 15 years old going

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like and I've got these coins you go in and you

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give the guy Ten bucks and he gives you a handful

00:25:26.170 --> 00:25:29.349
of coins. Just imagine if you put a black leg

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on those fucking coins. And I got them in my

00:25:32.029 --> 00:25:33.769
hand. Oh, God, just jizz all over those things.

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And I'm feeding them into the... Black lights

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are terrifying. I'm pushing buttons to pick which

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film to watch. I have a friend who brought a

00:25:40.569 --> 00:25:42.690
black light into a hotel room. He said, you just

00:25:42.690 --> 00:25:44.890
find jizz on the carpet. No kidding. Yeah, you

00:25:44.890 --> 00:25:47.170
find jizz on the fucking blankets sometimes.

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You go to a cheap hotel or a motel, how well

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do you think they're cleaning those carpets?

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You think they clean the walls? I've been in

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hotels where they put the remote control in a

00:25:56.609 --> 00:26:00.109
baggie for you. Because they say that's the most...

00:26:00.109 --> 00:26:02.569
No, no, so you don't have to touch the remote.

00:26:02.809 --> 00:26:05.190
And then they change the baggie on the remote

00:26:05.190 --> 00:26:07.529
each time a new guest comes in. So you're supposed

00:26:07.529 --> 00:26:09.589
to remote through the baggie? Yeah. Who does

00:26:09.589 --> 00:26:12.250
that? I take it out of the bag. That's crazy.

00:26:12.910 --> 00:26:14.490
That's ridiculous. I'm touching toilet seats.

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I'm touching everything. What are we talking

00:26:16.490 --> 00:26:21.299
about here? I'm also not that afraid to come,

00:26:21.900 --> 00:26:26.160
you know Yeah, yeah, that's just kind of gross

00:26:26.160 --> 00:26:29.259
but yeah, you know I mean think about how much

00:26:29.259 --> 00:26:31.720
shit is on the average person's cell phone. Have

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you ever heard of that? No Yeah, just touch your

00:26:34.529 --> 00:26:37.990
cell phone with a swab, like get a swab and get

00:26:37.990 --> 00:26:40.769
it analyzed. You'll find fecal matter all over

00:26:40.769 --> 00:26:41.829
your cell phone. Well, because we're scrolling

00:26:41.829 --> 00:26:43.930
while we're on the toilet. A lot of people are.

00:26:44.069 --> 00:26:46.210
Yeah. A lot of people. And also you're touching

00:26:46.210 --> 00:26:48.029
things and then you touch your phone. And how

00:26:48.029 --> 00:26:50.130
many people touch their ass then touch a thing,

00:26:50.269 --> 00:26:52.690
a doorknob or this and that. You're getting fecal

00:26:52.690 --> 00:26:55.150
matter on everything. Yeah. Especially if you

00:26:55.150 --> 00:26:57.720
have a cat. I used to think about that all the

00:26:57.720 --> 00:26:59.539
time when I had cats. The cats are in the shit

00:26:59.539 --> 00:27:01.380
box, they're scratching around there and then

00:27:01.380 --> 00:27:04.380
they're walking on your counter. They don't give

00:27:04.380 --> 00:27:06.240
a fuck where they go, they go everywhere. You

00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:08.240
don't care, you're like, hey buddy. You pet them

00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:09.599
when they're on the counter, you want their shit

00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:12.559
in their paws. Then your dog licks his asshole

00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:13.940
and then licks, and then people have him lick

00:27:13.940 --> 00:27:16.700
their face. They lick my face. Really? Oh yeah.

00:27:17.660 --> 00:27:21.000
No. Yeah, I let him give me kisses. Have you

00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:24.450
seen him lick his asshole? I have. For sure,

00:27:24.589 --> 00:27:26.730
especially my puppy. I have a little puppy now.

00:27:26.730 --> 00:27:28.730
Imagine a black light on your face right now

00:27:28.730 --> 00:27:30.990
My puppy goes right, you know, I have a little

00:27:30.990 --> 00:27:33.029
you look like you were in blackface. Probably

00:27:33.029 --> 00:27:36.630
it's a splatter like a look like I'm the Joker

00:27:36.630 --> 00:27:41.529
He goes I have a puppy like he's a King Charles

00:27:41.529 --> 00:27:44.029
Cavalier is a little tiny cute he's so fucking

00:27:44.029 --> 00:27:46.940
cute And then I have the golden retriever and

00:27:46.940 --> 00:27:49.079
the puppy runs right up to the golden retriever

00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:51.460
Sticks his face in his dick and then sticks his

00:27:51.460 --> 00:27:53.619
face in his asshole That's the first thing he

00:27:53.619 --> 00:27:56.299
does to him every time face on the dick face

00:27:56.299 --> 00:27:59.339
on the asshole. I'm like, bro Wow, what are you

00:27:59.339 --> 00:28:02.660
doing? Yeah, they that's just dogs. Yeah, that's

00:28:02.660 --> 00:28:05.519
what they do Yeah, I had two dogs and they did

00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:07.420
that. Yeah every fucking day. They sniffed each

00:28:07.420 --> 00:28:11.819
other like, you know, I mean, I Guess that's

00:28:11.819 --> 00:28:14.640
how they know if something changed. Maybe they

00:28:14.640 --> 00:28:17.200
know if the other dog is sick or if the other

00:28:17.200 --> 00:28:20.839
dog is breeding with another dog. It's like kind

00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:23.140
of checking their emails. Well, they get so much

00:28:23.140 --> 00:28:25.420
information from smell that we can't even possibly

00:28:25.420 --> 00:28:28.700
process. They say that a dog can smell a cheeseburger.

00:28:29.019 --> 00:28:30.380
They don't just smell the cheeseburger. They

00:28:30.380 --> 00:28:32.740
smell every individual ingredient. They smell

00:28:32.740 --> 00:28:34.559
the mustard. They smell the pickle. They smell

00:28:34.559 --> 00:28:37.160
everything. They smell the lettuce. Yeah, they

00:28:37.160 --> 00:28:40.730
smell. They smell. They think they dogs smell

00:28:40.730 --> 00:28:43.970
anxiety. They smell like moods. That's why when

00:28:43.970 --> 00:28:45.410
certain people come over your house They're scared

00:28:45.410 --> 00:28:47.710
dogs dogs get sketchy with them like fucks up

00:28:47.710 --> 00:28:49.710
with this guy like oh, he doesn't like you Yeah,

00:28:49.869 --> 00:28:51.450
what's because the person's probably nervous.

00:28:51.450 --> 00:28:54.630
They're giving off a scent Hey, no my mom her

00:28:54.630 --> 00:28:56.730
sister was attacked really bad by a dog when

00:28:56.730 --> 00:28:59.130
they were little So my mom has this trauma about

00:28:59.130 --> 00:29:02.190
dogs. We had these little fucker We had a shih

00:29:02.190 --> 00:29:04.289
tzu and a lots of ops other just little dogs

00:29:04.289 --> 00:29:07.329
She was terrified and the dogs would growl at

00:29:07.329 --> 00:29:09.990
her and they didn't growl at any Oh my god. Yeah,

00:29:10.069 --> 00:29:14.869
that's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah They smell

00:29:14.869 --> 00:29:17.309
things they sense things. Yeah, as I people have

00:29:17.309 --> 00:29:19.250
them as guards. Mm -hmm I mean, that's their

00:29:19.250 --> 00:29:21.829
that's how they that's how they made it right

00:29:21.829 --> 00:29:24.309
to be dogs They were the wolves that hung out

00:29:24.309 --> 00:29:25.769
with us and will let us know when something's

00:29:25.769 --> 00:29:29.190
going down Sentinels. Yeah. Yeah, that's uh,

00:29:29.390 --> 00:29:32.730
well, I have a very strong olfactory sense like

00:29:32.730 --> 00:29:36.269
I'm very of my five senses I would put it up

00:29:36.269 --> 00:29:40.569
there at the top like I I love perfume. Really?

00:29:40.769 --> 00:29:43.230
I love perfume. I don't like when women wear

00:29:43.230 --> 00:29:45.210
too much of it, and then they hug you at the

00:29:45.210 --> 00:29:47.109
comedy store, and then you go home, and you smell

00:29:47.109 --> 00:29:49.269
like fucking perfume. You're like, honey, it's

00:29:49.269 --> 00:29:54.730
just Whitney Cummings has this new Chanel. But

00:29:54.730 --> 00:29:58.710
sometimes I'll be sitting somewhere, and I'll

00:29:58.710 --> 00:30:01.069
smell some nice perfume, and I'll fucking whip

00:30:01.069 --> 00:30:03.549
my head around. It's like some 81 -year -old

00:30:03.549 --> 00:30:05.869
woman hunched over, and you're like, oh. They

00:30:05.869 --> 00:30:09.000
don't wear the old ladies. No matter how old

00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:10.599
they are, they'll still put on the makeup, they'll

00:30:10.599 --> 00:30:11.940
still put on the perfume. Get the hair done.

00:30:12.440 --> 00:30:17.039
Let it out. Time to go out and see, go fishing.

00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:20.279
See if this old bait can catch a bass. Yeah,

00:30:20.279 --> 00:30:23.859
right, right. Yeah, there's this bar up at my,

00:30:24.079 --> 00:30:27.059
where my mom lives in Florida. And there's this

00:30:27.059 --> 00:30:30.880
bar and it's like a famous cougar bar. And it's

00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.460
all these rich women who's, cause you know, men

00:30:33.460 --> 00:30:37.400
die faster. Right. It's impossible for a woman

00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:41.619
in Florida who's in her 70s to find a guy who's

00:30:41.619 --> 00:30:43.880
anywhere near her age. She's got to date a guy

00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:46.779
in his late 80s if she's in her 70s. And so these

00:30:46.779 --> 00:30:49.059
women go to this bar and they are, like you said,

00:30:49.220 --> 00:30:52.779
they're wearing a lot of leopard print. Yeah,

00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:55.279
they're letting you know. It's stiletto heels.

00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:58.400
It's like stiletto heels, but the toes are off.

00:30:58.559 --> 00:31:01.640
twisted and mangled. My wife has been watching

00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:04.700
this horrible show that's on Netflix. It's like

00:31:04.700 --> 00:31:08.339
one of those housewife shows, but it's all West

00:31:08.339 --> 00:31:11.539
Palm Beach ladies. It's all these rich ladies

00:31:11.539 --> 00:31:14.380
with plastic surgery. Palm Beach, not West Palm

00:31:14.380 --> 00:31:17.670
Beach. That's right. Palm Beach ladies, is Palm

00:31:17.670 --> 00:31:19.670
Beach the rich area? Yeah. Yeah. Is West Palm

00:31:19.670 --> 00:31:21.529
like the more moderate area? No, no, it's poor.

00:31:21.789 --> 00:31:24.150
It's poor. West Palm is poor. Well, it has good

00:31:24.150 --> 00:31:27.529
sections, but it has, the people that work on

00:31:27.529 --> 00:31:30.789
Palm Beach cleaning the houses live in West Palm

00:31:30.789 --> 00:31:32.869
Beach. Oh, I see. Because there's basically,

00:31:32.990 --> 00:31:35.650
Palm Beach is a bridge to get to, do you know

00:31:35.650 --> 00:31:38.670
the history of Palm Beach? No. Oh, I do, yeah,

00:31:38.670 --> 00:31:41.150
but go ahead. They created it. It was like a

00:31:41.150 --> 00:31:43.970
sandbar that they built up. And then they hired,

00:31:43.990 --> 00:31:46.829
they didn't hire, they hired a bunch of black

00:31:46.829 --> 00:31:49.529
people to come on the island and build all the

00:31:49.529 --> 00:31:51.130
houses, the infrastructure. Why black people?

00:31:51.789 --> 00:31:55.690
I don't know. I mean, for sure, they only hired

00:31:55.690 --> 00:31:58.029
black people? I mean, look it up, Jamie, but

00:31:58.029 --> 00:32:00.529
like, all I know is there was a lot of black

00:32:00.529 --> 00:32:03.150
people doing the building. They finished it.

00:32:03.289 --> 00:32:05.869
And then the island held a big party for the

00:32:05.869 --> 00:32:07.910
black people on the end of the island to celebrate.

00:32:08.210 --> 00:32:10.549
And then they torched all their houses. What?

00:32:10.769 --> 00:32:12.170
And forced them off the island. Yeah, that's

00:32:12.170 --> 00:32:14.009
the history of Palm Beach. They torched their

00:32:14.009 --> 00:32:15.789
houses? They torched the houses. After they were

00:32:15.789 --> 00:32:21.470
done building the mansions? Yes. Yeah. And it's

00:32:21.470 --> 00:32:23.690
probably the wealthiest piece of real estate

00:32:23.690 --> 00:32:25.950
in the country right now. So many people are

00:32:25.950 --> 00:32:30.559
fucking evil. That's so, imagine a guy who built

00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:34.099
your house, he's at home with his kid. You know,

00:32:34.099 --> 00:32:37.519
wow, what a great job I got, you know? And then

00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:39.859
I get to start a family here. Get to live in

00:32:39.859 --> 00:32:42.079
this place. I help build these beautiful mansions

00:32:42.079 --> 00:32:43.140
that we drive by. These people are gonna love

00:32:43.140 --> 00:32:45.740
me because I helped them create a life. Oh my

00:32:45.740 --> 00:32:47.960
god, and they lit their fucking houses on fire.

00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:50.240
Pull up that story, I need to hear about that,

00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:53.500
that's crazy. But these ladies are just monsters.

00:32:53.920 --> 00:33:00.240
It's just all the social status. It's all who's

00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:02.240
got the most money. They don't even know how

00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:05.119
much money I have. I'm a millionaire. I'm a millionaire.

00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:07.319
And then they have these clubs. My friend's father

00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:09.960
lives there, and he belongs to a club. Oh, you've

00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:11.920
got to belong to a club. And he worked for, I

00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:14.480
won't say who the person was, but a very famous

00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:20.160
Jewish family. And she went to lunch one day

00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:22.500
at one of these clubs that didn't allow Jews.

00:33:23.579 --> 00:33:25.779
Clubs still don't allow Jews? No, this is going

00:33:25.779 --> 00:33:28.960
back 20 years at the most. Only 20 years ago?

00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:34.160
20 years ago. So in 2006, there was clubs that

00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:38.740
didn't allow Jews? Well, you know, Augusta, where

00:33:38.740 --> 00:33:40.579
they play the Masters, only started allowing

00:33:40.579 --> 00:33:42.960
black members in like the 80s. Remember Tiger

00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:45.740
Woods was playing there and he got shit because

00:33:45.740 --> 00:33:47.859
it was a black playing at a club where they didn't

00:33:47.859 --> 00:33:50.559
allow black people? Really? And they said, how

00:33:50.559 --> 00:33:52.299
could you do that? Yeah. During Tiger Woods'

00:33:52.400 --> 00:33:57.059
lifetime? Yep. Yep. Wow. Yeah. Wow. So anyway,

00:33:57.140 --> 00:33:58.839
so this Jewish woman goes to the club. The waiter

00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:01.000
wouldn't come over to the table. And finally,

00:34:01.059 --> 00:34:02.619
the member went over and goes, what's going on?

00:34:02.680 --> 00:34:08.599
We can't serve. We can't serve her. How did they

00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:12.619
even know she was Jewish? She's famous. Oh. Yeah.

00:34:12.860 --> 00:34:15.480
I think I can say who it is. It was Estee Lauder's

00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:19.750
wife. Wow. Yeah. Or was Estee Lauder the woman?

00:34:20.289 --> 00:34:22.650
Yeah. I don't know. Estee Lauder is the woman.

00:34:22.750 --> 00:34:25.449
It was her. Wow. One of the richest women in

00:34:25.449 --> 00:34:28.989
the country. Wow. Yeah. We can't serve her because

00:34:28.989 --> 00:34:34.110
of her religion. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Wow. And that

00:34:34.110 --> 00:34:38.050
was 2006? Hey, the country clubs, you know, the

00:34:38.050 --> 00:34:39.809
rule on it was, well, look, the Friar's Club

00:34:39.809 --> 00:34:41.949
- We need to make sure that's true. Which one?

00:34:42.230 --> 00:34:44.280
The Estee Lauder one. I definitely want to find

00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:46.460
out about the burning... Well, the Estee Lauder

00:34:46.460 --> 00:34:48.780
is personal information. I don't know that that's

00:34:48.780 --> 00:34:50.420
not published anywhere. All right, forget about

00:34:50.420 --> 00:34:53.340
that then. But no, segregation in clubs, private

00:34:53.340 --> 00:34:55.980
clubs used to get away with that until I was

00:34:55.980 --> 00:34:59.099
a member of the Friars Club in New York and they

00:34:59.099 --> 00:35:02.860
did not allow female members until I was there

00:35:02.860 --> 00:35:07.809
in... It was the late mid -90s before the Friars

00:35:07.809 --> 00:35:10.670
Club allowed female members. And the reason was

00:35:10.670 --> 00:35:13.449
legally you can't have a club exclude people

00:35:13.449 --> 00:35:15.989
if you can prove business is being done there.

00:35:16.590 --> 00:35:19.389
If there's commerce. If there's no business,

00:35:19.849 --> 00:35:22.289
you can let in whoever you want. Right. So that's

00:35:22.289 --> 00:35:23.909
how they got female members in there. And I think

00:35:23.909 --> 00:35:26.170
they probably, I mean, obviously business is

00:35:26.170 --> 00:35:28.469
being done at golf clubs. Well, business is definitely

00:35:28.469 --> 00:35:30.809
being done at the Friars Club. I mean, a lot

00:35:30.809 --> 00:35:33.610
of deals probably got made there. A lot of ideas

00:35:33.610 --> 00:35:36.909
got hatched. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, all these

00:35:36.909 --> 00:35:39.869
comics. It was agents and comics. I remember

00:35:39.869 --> 00:35:41.989
you used to love that place. Dude, it was so

00:35:41.989 --> 00:35:42.809
fucking great. You were always telling me about

00:35:42.809 --> 00:35:47.269
it. It was so unappealing to me. It was a clubhouse

00:35:47.269 --> 00:35:49.489
for comedians. We used to go there. They had

00:35:49.489 --> 00:35:51.929
pool. They had two beautiful pool tables. I played

00:35:51.929 --> 00:35:55.349
on the Friar's Club pool team, and we used to

00:35:55.349 --> 00:35:58.369
play against other clubs in the city, all the

00:35:58.369 --> 00:36:01.210
other private clubs. Paul Cervino was my partner

00:36:01.210 --> 00:36:03.550
in pool. Paul Cervino could play. He was good.

00:36:03.650 --> 00:36:05.750
He was good. He was like, he could run a hundred

00:36:05.750 --> 00:36:08.750
balls in straight pool. He was like a legit,

00:36:08.789 --> 00:36:11.670
like high level player. So he carried me, but

00:36:11.670 --> 00:36:14.570
we used to play all the clubs and then, you know,

00:36:14.630 --> 00:36:16.309
and then you get, they had a nice gym with the

00:36:16.309 --> 00:36:18.110
best steam room in the city. And then they got

00:36:18.110 --> 00:36:20.889
these lazy boys. You work out. You take a fucking

00:36:20.889 --> 00:36:23.130
steam and you send a lazy boy and you read the

00:36:23.130 --> 00:36:25.730
newspaper. And then they got a dining room downstairs

00:36:25.730 --> 00:36:28.610
where Henny Youngman is at one table, Alan Kings

00:36:28.610 --> 00:36:30.730
of the, you know, and these guys, like those

00:36:30.730 --> 00:36:34.210
old, those old Borsch Bell comics, they lived

00:36:34.210 --> 00:36:36.730
to make you laugh. It's not like comedians today.

00:36:37.050 --> 00:36:40.630
So many of them are dark and quiet and disturbed.

00:36:40.909 --> 00:36:44.429
These guys fucking told jokes and they roasted

00:36:44.429 --> 00:36:47.070
you and they hugged you. And it was like, it

00:36:47.070 --> 00:36:50.230
was like a part of. being on stage almost, you

00:36:50.230 --> 00:36:53.110
know? It was expected. Right. They probably all

00:36:53.110 --> 00:36:55.469
felt real comfortable in this, you know, comics

00:36:55.469 --> 00:36:58.869
only club. Yeah, right. Folklore surrounding

00:36:58.869 --> 00:37:01.449
the sticks of Palm Beach. So that's what it is.

00:37:01.510 --> 00:37:04.510
That's the area what they called it. So go to

00:37:04.510 --> 00:37:07.269
the top of that, please. Well, right there. Turn

00:37:07.269 --> 00:37:09.769
of 20th century is employment boom of unprecedented

00:37:09.769 --> 00:37:11.969
proportions south for the hiring of thousands

00:37:11.969 --> 00:37:15.210
of black laborers to extend Henry Flagler's Florida

00:37:15.210 --> 00:37:17.710
East Coast Railroad. This is the East Coast Railroad.

00:37:20.019 --> 00:37:22.260
These laborers played a key role in the development

00:37:22.260 --> 00:37:24.539
of the early Palm Beach, also helped to build

00:37:24.539 --> 00:37:30.179
the Royal Poinciana Hotel, Flagler's White Hall

00:37:30.179 --> 00:37:32.699
Residence, which is today known as the Henry

00:37:32.699 --> 00:37:37.230
Flagler Museum. Laborers and their families settled

00:37:37.230 --> 00:37:39.590
in Palm Beach Island between North County Road

00:37:39.590 --> 00:37:42.530
and Sunrise Avenue. This area of shanties and

00:37:42.530 --> 00:37:45.730
tent -like homes soon became known as the Sticks.

00:37:46.090 --> 00:37:48.690
Many of those descendants still live in the area

00:37:48.690 --> 00:37:52.449
today. So what happened? Does it say what happened?

00:37:54.309 --> 00:37:57.570
Okay, along came a fellow named Henley Flagler

00:37:57.570 --> 00:38:00.090
who decided he needed that land to build on to

00:38:00.090 --> 00:38:02.829
develop Little said and he threw a party for

00:38:02.829 --> 00:38:05.750
all the blacks on the island and They all went

00:38:05.750 --> 00:38:08.670
over to the party and while they were celebrating

00:38:08.670 --> 00:38:11.329
and enjoying themselves their homes on the island

00:38:11.329 --> 00:38:14.309
of the town of Palm Beach burned down mystery

00:38:14.309 --> 00:38:19.219
mysteriously Holy fuck, dude From what I heard,

00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:22.280
McCrae said, he got with the residents and set

00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:24.460
up a party on West Palm Beach side and had everybody

00:38:24.460 --> 00:38:26.559
ferried over to the party and then had a mob

00:38:26.559 --> 00:38:30.019
of people to burn up people's homes and shanties

00:38:30.019 --> 00:38:31.880
and tents all over the sticks and forced them

00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:33.639
out of there and took the land. How many people

00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:36.139
died? I don't know how many people died, it's

00:38:36.139 --> 00:38:38.420
just they were all gone. Right, but what about

00:38:38.420 --> 00:38:40.519
their kids? Around 2 ,000 people live in that

00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:43.710
area is what it said. Oh my God. And then this

00:38:43.710 --> 00:38:45.750
is the problem. When I was looking it up on Wikipedia,

00:38:45.809 --> 00:38:49.010
this is basically what I read. Okay. Palm Beach

00:38:49.010 --> 00:38:50.989
Historical Society version is very different.

00:38:51.829 --> 00:38:54.730
Published text only says that by 1912, the tenants

00:38:54.730 --> 00:38:58.070
of the sticks had been evicted. That doesn't

00:38:58.070 --> 00:39:00.050
mean anything. They could have still been there.

00:39:00.110 --> 00:39:02.429
I'm sure Flagler threw some money at the Palm

00:39:02.429 --> 00:39:04.869
Beach Historical Society. Yeah, of course, right?

00:39:04.989 --> 00:39:07.150
No mention of a fire or any record of large scale

00:39:07.150 --> 00:39:08.750
homelessness that would have followed such a

00:39:08.750 --> 00:39:11.400
devastating blaze. Everly Clark believes his

00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:13.880
version is the most accurate and the sticks was

00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:16.739
actually legislated out of existence. They claim

00:39:16.739 --> 00:39:18.840
there was a fire and Flagler had the people come

00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:20.699
to circus and all that, but that's not true.

00:39:21.260 --> 00:39:23.519
Still, more than a century later, the urban legend

00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:27.039
remains strong and the pulse of public opinion

00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:29.929
split. There are so many historical facts that

00:39:29.929 --> 00:39:32.130
make some of the scurrilous removal of the residents

00:39:32.130 --> 00:39:34.670
believable that it's become lore for the most

00:39:34.670 --> 00:39:36.710
part in the black community. All right. Well,

00:39:36.710 --> 00:39:38.630
let's find out if there's a historical record

00:39:38.630 --> 00:39:42.090
of the fires. This is all I could get to. That's

00:39:42.090 --> 00:39:44.829
it. This is a local news. And what year was this

00:39:44.829 --> 00:39:49.110
supposedly? 1920? 1912? Yeah, I bet they did

00:39:49.110 --> 00:39:54.030
it. I mean, look what they did in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

00:39:54.349 --> 00:39:57.170
Right. You know, this was part of the playbook.

00:39:57.369 --> 00:39:59.849
Well, look what they did with the Tuskegee experiment.

00:40:00.329 --> 00:40:04.130
Right. Look at that. How about that? They knowingly

00:40:04.130 --> 00:40:05.969
had all these people with syphilis and didn't

00:40:05.969 --> 00:40:08.630
treat them, just to study them, to see what would

00:40:08.630 --> 00:40:11.010
happen to them. Did they give people syphilis

00:40:11.010 --> 00:40:13.329
or did they just treat them for syphilis? I don't

00:40:13.329 --> 00:40:15.110
know. Whatever it was, they let these fucking

00:40:15.110 --> 00:40:18.289
people rot and syphilis is a fucking horrible

00:40:18.289 --> 00:40:23.019
disease. Tell me about it. Did you get it? Do

00:40:23.019 --> 00:40:25.420
you know the story about syphilis and wigs? No.

00:40:25.579 --> 00:40:28.280
You don't know that? No. All those dudes in like

00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:30.599
the ancient times that had the big wigs, that

00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:32.500
was to cover up their hair loss from syphilis.

00:40:32.699 --> 00:40:36.099
Dude, how did not everybody have it? Well, they

00:40:36.099 --> 00:40:38.760
all had wigs. They all had it back then. In high

00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:40.880
society, first of all, those people were basically

00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:43.420
like Game of Thrones. They were all just fucking

00:40:43.420 --> 00:40:46.000
freaks banging each other. You know, French.

00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:49.079
French society has always been very loose sexually.

00:40:49.900 --> 00:40:53.780
And so these two royals, were they brothers or

00:40:53.780 --> 00:40:59.039
cousins? So these guys get syphilis, their hair

00:40:59.039 --> 00:41:00.880
falls out, right? You get holes in your face

00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:02.179
and shit and they're still fucking everybody,

00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:06.119
right? And so they got wigs made and the more

00:41:06.119 --> 00:41:08.900
money you had, the more elaborate and big your

00:41:08.900 --> 00:41:12.440
wig was. That's why rich people are big wigs.

00:41:13.930 --> 00:41:20.170
No, yes, I love it crazy Crazy that term that

00:41:20.170 --> 00:41:22.429
we always use when we were kids. Oh, he's a big

00:41:22.429 --> 00:41:27.010
wig. Yeah That's like ancient That goes back

00:41:27.010 --> 00:41:30.070
to the 1400s That's like something you would

00:41:30.070 --> 00:41:33.869
hear on that guy Cody Tucker's I love that guy.

00:41:33.869 --> 00:41:36.429
I'm doing his podcast. Oh, yeah, he's great.

00:41:36.429 --> 00:41:39.309
He's great. Very smart guy. Yeah, here's what's

00:41:39.309 --> 00:41:44.630
interesting There's a strong connection between

00:41:44.630 --> 00:41:48.250
the syphilis that evolved in North America and

00:41:48.250 --> 00:41:50.869
the syphilis that these guys had in Europe. There's

00:41:50.869 --> 00:41:54.909
always been syphilis, but syphilis had an outbreak

00:41:54.909 --> 00:41:58.590
in Europe after people came to North America,

00:41:59.469 --> 00:42:01.289
probably fucked a bunch of Native Americans,

00:42:01.590 --> 00:42:03.710
and then went back to Europe with these fucking

00:42:03.710 --> 00:42:05.909
diseases. And then it mutated. It's a different

00:42:05.909 --> 00:42:09.099
kind of syphilis. Wow. Yeah. They were cousins,

00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:11.000
it turns out. They were cousins. Yeah, that's

00:42:11.000 --> 00:42:13.739
what I thought. This is a story. They were commonly

00:42:13.739 --> 00:42:17.130
used to cover up hair loss. But they're used

00:42:17.130 --> 00:42:19.789
to not become widespread until two kings started

00:42:19.789 --> 00:42:24.489
to lose their hair King Louis the 14th of France

00:42:24.489 --> 00:42:26.969
experienced hair loss at the age of 17 then hired

00:42:26.969 --> 00:42:30.570
48 wig makers to help combat his thinning locks

00:42:30.570 --> 00:42:34.690
So a lot of these guys wound up getting syphilis

00:42:34.690 --> 00:42:37.130
and there was you know, normal hair loss on top

00:42:37.130 --> 00:42:40.570
of it Both conditions being syphilitic signals

00:42:42.009 --> 00:42:45.449
Everybody had syphilis back then, man. They probably

00:42:45.449 --> 00:42:47.409
didn't wear condoms. They're probably all freaks.

00:42:47.630 --> 00:42:48.489
They're probably doing cocaine. No, they all

00:42:48.489 --> 00:42:51.329
went to whores. Yes. I mean, that's what you

00:42:51.329 --> 00:42:53.650
did. When you were a wealthy guy, you went to

00:42:53.650 --> 00:42:55.409
the whorehouse all the time. Then you came home

00:42:55.409 --> 00:42:57.389
and you gave it to your wife. Then she had a

00:42:57.389 --> 00:43:00.230
baby. And depending on the disease, babies are

00:43:00.230 --> 00:43:02.510
born with the sexually transmitted disease that

00:43:02.510 --> 00:43:04.849
you gave your wife. Right. And that's what the

00:43:04.849 --> 00:43:07.070
crazy thing about the Epstein leaks today. The

00:43:07.070 --> 00:43:11.769
the one email and we're here that said that It

00:43:11.769 --> 00:43:16.409
said that Bill Gates wanted to get from him Antibiotics

00:43:16.409 --> 00:43:19.090
to give to Melinda because he got syphilis or

00:43:19.090 --> 00:43:23.190
we got something Clamydia whatever you got. He

00:43:23.190 --> 00:43:26.010
got some sort of an SDD from a prostitute Do

00:43:26.010 --> 00:43:27.949
you think if she could have the choice between

00:43:27.949 --> 00:43:30.710
getting the what did she get? 50 billion dollars

00:43:30.710 --> 00:43:33.269
or not getting the syphilis. Well, whatever she

00:43:33.269 --> 00:43:35.289
got it I bet it wasn't syphilis. It was probably

00:43:35.289 --> 00:43:37.420
the clap It was probably Chlamydia or something

00:43:37.420 --> 00:43:41.119
like that. That's no big deal. Who knows if that's

00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:44.519
true though. Here's the thing. Epstein clearly

00:43:44.519 --> 00:43:48.059
was some sort of a blackmailer. And this is an

00:43:48.059 --> 00:43:51.699
email that Epstein wrote. So it could be complete

00:43:51.699 --> 00:43:54.989
fiction. Epstein could have wrote that just to

00:43:54.989 --> 00:43:57.349
put pressure on Bill Gates for some fucking business

00:43:57.349 --> 00:44:00.250
deal who fucking knows he could have spread rumors

00:44:00.250 --> 00:44:02.710
and then said that'll squash those rumors these

00:44:02.710 --> 00:44:06.329
guys are dealing in deception and blackmail and

00:44:06.329 --> 00:44:09.909
so you can't like assume that it's true think

00:44:09.909 --> 00:44:14.329
about how many relationships Epstein had and

00:44:14.329 --> 00:44:17.119
that he was working almost every one of them

00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:21.659
leveraging. He was kind of brilliant. Well, he

00:44:21.659 --> 00:44:24.099
was really good at that. That one thing, you

00:44:24.099 --> 00:44:25.679
know, a guy could have cured cancer if he went

00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:28.639
into that business. Well, he was into science,

00:44:29.139 --> 00:44:32.139
yes. Well, he was also into compromising scientists,

00:44:32.300 --> 00:44:34.059
right? Like, let's say that you want to get a

00:44:34.059 --> 00:44:37.019
drug passed, right? And you want FDA approval

00:44:37.019 --> 00:44:38.559
of this drug, but it's some sort of a competing

00:44:38.559 --> 00:44:40.579
drug. Well, you have a bunch of scientists on

00:44:40.579 --> 00:44:42.980
your side, and these scientists can go attack

00:44:42.980 --> 00:44:45.760
that competing drug. And then all of a sudden,

00:44:45.860 --> 00:44:48.239
well, you have this guy, he comes from MIT, and

00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:51.039
he says this. And like, oh, and then the FDA

00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:53.199
listens to him. I mean, it's very important to

00:44:53.199 --> 00:44:56.900
have the leverage of respected academics. You

00:44:56.900 --> 00:45:00.500
know? Epstein with a smiley emoji asks former

00:45:00.500 --> 00:45:04.510
Israeli PM Ehad Barak, Is that how you say his

00:45:04.510 --> 00:45:08.750
name? Ehud Barak. To clarify, he does not work

00:45:08.750 --> 00:45:11.250
for the Mossad in a meeting with a senior Qatari

00:45:11.250 --> 00:45:14.909
investment official. The quick thread starts

00:45:14.909 --> 00:45:18.730
at the bottom and goes up. Oh, okay. Hi, are

00:45:18.730 --> 00:45:20.989
you going to be in London on Thursday? Best?

00:45:21.250 --> 00:45:25.269
EB? Right. You? Unfortunately not. You should

00:45:25.269 --> 00:45:27.369
make clear that I don't work for Mossad, smiley

00:45:27.369 --> 00:45:30.469
face. Oh boy. You or I, question mark, that I

00:45:30.469 --> 00:45:35.320
don't. He just he just volunteers for them with

00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:43.000
a smiley smiley face emojis are hilarious Smiley

00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:48.500
face emojis that's hilarious That's so funny.

00:45:48.679 --> 00:45:50.460
Dude, there's this really good show about Mossad

00:45:50.460 --> 00:45:53.219
called Tehran. Have you heard of that? No. Oh,

00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:54.179
I have heard about it. It's on Apple+. I haven't

00:45:54.179 --> 00:45:56.179
watched it, though. Is it good? Yeah, it's really

00:45:56.179 --> 00:45:58.380
good. I mean, it's a really good look inside

00:45:58.380 --> 00:46:01.900
of what goes on in Iran in terms of... I mean,

00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:03.760
the Israelis are fucking brilliant. Brilliant.

00:46:03.780 --> 00:46:05.619
The infiltration that they did into... No one's

00:46:05.619 --> 00:46:07.800
like them. They're the best. Yeah. They're the

00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:09.900
best at that. Well, they have to be, right? Like,

00:46:10.300 --> 00:46:13.280
this is them. This table is people who hate them.

00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:15.840
Yeah, right, right. You've got to become a bad

00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:17.900
motherfucker. Your neighbors don't want you dead.

00:46:18.139 --> 00:46:20.820
Those pagers going off in Lebanon, that was a

00:46:20.820 --> 00:46:24.139
long play. Months and months and months. Years.

00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:30.320
Was it years? Years. Wow. Yes. Wow. Crazy. They're

00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:32.300
like, I know it. The pager's right next to your

00:46:32.300 --> 00:46:34.260
cock. Blow your dick off. You blow a hole through

00:46:34.260 --> 00:46:35.780
your pelvis, apparently. Oh my god. That's how

00:46:35.780 --> 00:46:40.179
you die. And you're isolating your enemy. There's

00:46:40.179 --> 00:46:42.920
no civilian casualties. Well, I bet they probably

00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:46.539
got some kids. But low percentage versus bombing

00:46:46.539 --> 00:46:48.900
a building or something. Which they did do, too.

00:46:50.860 --> 00:46:53.139
They did some of that, like the guys in the building.

00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:56.559
Leveled the building. I was on Good Day LA one

00:46:56.559 --> 00:46:58.960
time. It's all those pretty women. They're actually

00:46:58.960 --> 00:47:03.420
really sharp. They're great. And I go, they say,

00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:05.780
oh, you came alone? I go, no, my agent's supposed

00:47:05.780 --> 00:47:08.219
to be here any minute. He's Lebanese. I just

00:47:08.219 --> 00:47:09.940
paged him before I got here, but I haven't heard

00:47:09.940 --> 00:47:14.500
anything back. And they were like, whoa. It just

00:47:14.500 --> 00:47:19.780
happened like three days before. Didn't we just,

00:47:20.239 --> 00:47:22.760
not we, didn't Israel just bomb Lebanon today?

00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:26.619
Oh, really? I believe so. Yeah, at least according

00:47:26.619 --> 00:47:28.880
to Twitter. Well, what's going on in Iran? I

00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:31.010
heard things are heating up over there. Well,

00:47:31.010 --> 00:47:33.110
Trump just said they're sending ships in that

00:47:33.110 --> 00:47:35.409
area. And he said, but he also said Iran wants

00:47:35.409 --> 00:47:39.309
to make a deal. So maybe he's trying to put pressure

00:47:39.309 --> 00:47:42.090
on them to make a deal. Yeah. And, you know,

00:47:42.230 --> 00:47:45.110
hopefully nothing happens in terms of like military

00:47:45.110 --> 00:47:47.730
intervention. It's scary shit, dude, because

00:47:47.730 --> 00:47:50.469
they have nuclear weapons or they have the potential

00:47:50.469 --> 00:47:54.070
to eventually have nuclear weapons. But, you

00:47:54.070 --> 00:48:00.500
know, I don't know. Did Israel bomb? Yeah, there

00:48:00.500 --> 00:48:04.900
was some image that showed like some Fucking

00:48:04.900 --> 00:48:08.800
huge explosion. I said Israel just bombed Lebanon

00:48:08.800 --> 00:48:19.480
They definitely have recently Right, yeah time

00:48:19.480 --> 00:48:26.360
over there If it is it's like it's just breaking

00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:30.960
it's sort of Well, the thing is like there are

00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:34.900
you know, there it is Israel bombs Lebanon, yeah

00:48:34.900 --> 00:48:41.119
It's probably all just coming out, right? No,

00:48:41.119 --> 00:48:43.420
I mean would you type in that on? That's all

00:48:43.420 --> 00:48:45.119
you see is that one so that might not be true

00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:46.860
click on that link see if anybody's disputing

00:48:46.860 --> 00:48:50.659
it Click on that tweet. There's only got 15 responses

00:48:50.659 --> 00:48:57.190
This is true grok click on that Yes, multiple

00:48:57.190 --> 00:49:00.650
sources indicate report Israeli airstrikes in

00:49:00.650 --> 00:49:04.389
southern Lebanon on January 30th Targeting Hezbollah

00:49:04.389 --> 00:49:07.929
IDF complaint confirmed a wave of strikes Lebanese

00:49:07.929 --> 00:49:12.989
media noted the drone hit in say that word How

00:49:12.989 --> 00:49:16.050
do you say that word city keen city keen killing

00:49:16.050 --> 00:49:19.389
one Times of Israel's rock news for details.

00:49:19.590 --> 00:49:22.550
Yeah sure fuck sure fuck whatever you say that

00:49:22.550 --> 00:49:25.519
is news for details We're so fucking lucky, man.

00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:27.860
We got no neighbors. Nobody's launching. Well,

00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:30.659
we're in a good spot geographically separated

00:49:30.659 --> 00:49:34.519
by oceans on both sides is fucking nice. Which

00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:35.739
is why we should be really good friends with

00:49:35.739 --> 00:49:38.019
Canada. Like what the fuck's going on? Trump

00:49:38.019 --> 00:49:39.780
ruined that whole thing, man. Because if he didn't

00:49:39.780 --> 00:49:41.940
talk about turning Canada into the 51st state,

00:49:42.179 --> 00:49:44.599
the conservatives were going to win. Pierre Polavet

00:49:44.599 --> 00:49:47.800
would have taken over. They would have eased

00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:50.019
a lot of the restrictions, made it a lot more

00:49:50.019 --> 00:49:52.199
common sense. Dude, China was just up there.

00:49:52.219 --> 00:49:55.059
They just made a huge deal to get all their cars

00:49:55.059 --> 00:49:58.130
from China now. We're not gonna sell any American

00:49:58.130 --> 00:50:00.730
cars in Canada. Well, you know, it's a real problem

00:50:00.730 --> 00:50:04.670
because China has some fucking amazing cars Amazing

00:50:04.670 --> 00:50:07.530
cars now. Yeah, bro. They're not fucking around

00:50:07.530 --> 00:50:10.889
their electric vehicles are top of the food chain

00:50:10.889 --> 00:50:14.570
Yeah, Tesla just yesterday. They just stopped

00:50:14.570 --> 00:50:19.030
the Model X Model S and X production. I saw that

00:50:19.030 --> 00:50:24.610
Apparently Elon is this optimist robot is gonna

00:50:24.610 --> 00:50:26.599
change the world. Yeah Everybody that I know

00:50:26.599 --> 00:50:28.960
that's seen it when this thing integrates with

00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:33.420
AI You're gonna have a fucking dude in your house.

00:50:33.639 --> 00:50:37.980
You're gonna have a super genius Robot dude in

00:50:37.980 --> 00:50:41.300
your house. Does he look like looks like I robot

00:50:41.440 --> 00:50:42.719
And he's going to be able to do whatever the

00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:44.539
fuck you need him to do. Go dig a ditch. Go do

00:50:44.539 --> 00:50:46.420
this. Take out the garbage. You know what's fucking

00:50:46.420 --> 00:50:49.559
great is for old people that live alone. 100%.

00:50:49.559 --> 00:50:51.599
They know everything about your life. They can

00:50:51.599 --> 00:50:54.460
actually hold a conversation with you. Yes. Show

00:50:54.460 --> 00:50:57.059
pictures of your fucking grandkids on their chest

00:50:57.059 --> 00:51:00.719
while they know your interests, ask you memories.

00:51:01.119 --> 00:51:03.460
All people want to do is talk about, you know,

00:51:03.679 --> 00:51:06.179
memories and they're going to listen. Yeah, they'll

00:51:06.179 --> 00:51:08.539
talk to you. Yeah. Not only that, they'll confirm

00:51:08.539 --> 00:51:12.460
all of your delusions. Tesla to build 1 million

00:51:12.460 --> 00:51:16.119
optimist robots per year at Fremont factory 1

00:51:16.119 --> 00:51:20.260
million a year We need these robots because they're

00:51:20.260 --> 00:51:22.199
gonna terraform the moon and Mars like we're

00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:24.219
not gonna do it. The robots are gonna do it I

00:51:24.219 --> 00:51:27.420
don't think anybody's going to Mars not in our

00:51:27.420 --> 00:51:31.019
lifetime. I think that's all The future it's

00:51:31.019 --> 00:51:33.300
a little chilly up there. It's not just that

00:51:33.300 --> 00:51:35.739
it's just like no one's gonna want to do it You'd

00:51:35.739 --> 00:51:37.980
have only suicidal people want to go one way

00:51:37.980 --> 00:51:41.099
trip. Well, you can get back You get back it

00:51:41.099 --> 00:51:42.380
used to be a one -way trip now. They figured

00:51:42.380 --> 00:51:43.940
out you can get back. Oh, really? Yeah, but you

00:51:43.940 --> 00:51:45.980
have to wait six months Yeah, you get back like

00:51:45.980 --> 00:51:47.659
every six months. That's that movie the Martian

00:51:47.659 --> 00:51:50.440
plus the flights gonna be delayed, right? Yeah,

00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:52.880
or hope you just hope it doesn't get with a micrometeor

00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:55.380
while it's out in space Like all kinds of weird

00:51:55.380 --> 00:51:58.940
shit can happen. You got a micrometeor micrometeors

00:51:58.940 --> 00:52:02.079
Tiny ones are flying around and just punch holes

00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:03.880
through everything. They're going like a hundred

00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:05.920
seventy thousand miles an hour They just go whipping

00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:08.579
through the building how much? Junk is there

00:52:08.579 --> 00:52:11.480
in space right now in terms of like satellites

00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:14.300
that just so crapped out Well, just if you ever

00:52:14.300 --> 00:52:15.840
looked at the amount of satellites that surround

00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:18.820
the earth. Yeah, it's fucking bananas Yeah, it's

00:52:18.820 --> 00:52:21.320
nuts and then there's and there's no plan for

00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:23.940
when they expire right they just stay up there

00:52:23.940 --> 00:52:26.420
Well, some of them they lose their orbit their

00:52:26.420 --> 00:52:28.300
orbit decays and then they come crashing down

00:52:28.300 --> 00:52:31.280
to the earth Yeah, that happens and you know,

00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:33.300
they have to figure out where they're gonna hit

00:52:33.300 --> 00:52:36.280
You know, and hopefully they don't hit the middle

00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:40.170
of fucking Düsseldorf. You know what I mean?

00:52:40.409 --> 00:52:42.469
Like you could hit a major city. That's a funny

00:52:42.469 --> 00:52:48.610
city to say. Düsseldorf. You got a fucking satellite

00:52:48.610 --> 00:52:50.030
down there. It could land right on your face.

00:52:50.730 --> 00:52:57.949
Yeah. That's wild. Yeah. Yeah. I went to SpaceX

00:52:57.949 --> 00:53:01.349
for the launch of the last rocket. I watched

00:53:01.349 --> 00:53:04.190
the launch. Jamie did too. We were right there.

00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:09.119
I went into the control room with Elon and watched

00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:12.519
the entire journey while it was flying over the

00:53:12.519 --> 00:53:15.480
earth and it lands and touched down on Australia

00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:20.039
in the ocean. 35 minutes later. Really? It was

00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:23.019
nuts. So it breaks through the atmosphere, travels,

00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:26.280
and then comes straight down in 35 minutes. And

00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:29.460
you get to watch because they have like... 20

00:53:29.460 --> 00:53:31.440
fucking cameras on the thing the entire time

00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:34.340
live -streaming through Starlink. So you're live

00:53:34.340 --> 00:53:36.659
-streaming the interior They're monitoring the

00:53:36.659 --> 00:53:38.400
pressure of the cabin. They're monitoring all

00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:40.760
these different things. And so the this is the

00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:43.739
way they they test tolerances It's like when

00:53:43.739 --> 00:53:45.500
a lot of people say oh his rockets blow up. He's

00:53:45.500 --> 00:53:47.940
a dumbass They want the Rockets to blow up like

00:53:47.940 --> 00:53:49.699
they have to find out like what makes the rocket

00:53:49.699 --> 00:53:52.400
blow up Like how much pressure can you put how

00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:54.159
thin do the walls have you how reinforced to

00:53:54.159 --> 00:53:56.300
things have to be? Yeah, you know and then a

00:53:56.300 --> 00:53:58.849
new bit They make adjustments. That's what they

00:53:58.849 --> 00:54:02.829
do. So they've calculated in a certain amount

00:54:02.829 --> 00:54:06.010
of failures that they expect to have. And this

00:54:06.010 --> 00:54:08.010
one actually had a failure but still landed.

00:54:08.829 --> 00:54:11.469
So that's going to be the new first class is

00:54:11.469 --> 00:54:17.449
going to Australia in 35 minutes. Wow. Boom.

00:54:17.469 --> 00:54:21.599
That's crazy. Nuts. 35 minutes touchdown in the

00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:25.260
ocean, but a pretty intense ride. I was a Smooth

00:54:25.260 --> 00:54:28.599
touchdown in an exact spot where they had boats

00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:32.539
ready. They had cameras filming it They film

00:54:32.539 --> 00:54:34.460
the entire touchdown does it have to be over

00:54:34.460 --> 00:54:37.039
the ocean or they can they land on land? Well

00:54:37.039 --> 00:54:39.480
his Rockets can now land on land you've seen

00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:41.880
how that that thing comes down and lands on the

00:54:41.880 --> 00:54:44.940
ground Which is bananas and then they stop landing

00:54:44.940 --> 00:54:46.619
them on the ground now. They catch them with

00:54:46.619 --> 00:54:49.469
arms. It's even more efficient You've seen that

00:54:49.469 --> 00:54:52.050
right? Well cuz NASA was wasting so much money

00:54:52.050 --> 00:54:55.090
because every single rocket was ruined when it

00:54:55.090 --> 00:54:58.170
came back Well, you know, it's crazy NASA is

00:54:58.170 --> 00:55:01.650
about to launch the Artemis mission and no one's

00:55:01.650 --> 00:55:04.449
talking about it Where is that going? They're

00:55:04.449 --> 00:55:07.050
sending people around the moon and having them

00:55:07.050 --> 00:55:09.150
come back to earth and you hear nothing about

00:55:09.150 --> 00:55:11.849
it Like have you heard about it? No, me neither.

00:55:12.250 --> 00:55:13.849
You know how I found out about it. Somebody asked

00:55:13.849 --> 00:55:16.329
me at the club Some guy in the audience said

00:55:16.329 --> 00:55:18.469
we think about the Artemis mission. What is it?

00:55:18.380 --> 00:55:21.119
He's like, NASA's got a mission that they're

00:55:21.119 --> 00:55:23.420
flying people around the moon. I'm like, when?

00:55:24.119 --> 00:55:26.559
He's like, February. I'm like, come on, really?

00:55:26.980 --> 00:55:28.519
Well, what's the mission? What are they trying

00:55:28.519 --> 00:55:31.960
to do? I don't know. Let's find out. Artemis

00:55:31.960 --> 00:55:34.000
2. They're not landing on the moon? Not this

00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:36.360
time. No, this time I think they're just flying.

00:55:36.420 --> 00:55:38.820
Isn't it weird? Have we landed on the moon since

00:55:38.820 --> 00:55:41.400
the 60s? If we ever did in the first place? No.

00:55:42.809 --> 00:55:44.829
Are you being serious? Yeah. I don't know if

00:55:44.829 --> 00:55:46.989
we did. I don't know if we did either. I used

00:55:46.989 --> 00:55:49.329
to believe it before COVID. No, I didn't. I didn't

00:55:49.329 --> 00:55:50.869
believe it for a long time. And then I said,

00:55:51.010 --> 00:55:53.130
I'm probably wrong. I don't know what I'm talking

00:55:53.130 --> 00:55:55.030
about. Let me just leave it alone. And then I

00:55:55.030 --> 00:55:56.829
got back into it again. And I was like, but it

00:55:56.829 --> 00:55:59.329
doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense

00:55:59.329 --> 00:56:02.110
that these guys went like Neil Armstrong basically

00:56:02.110 --> 00:56:04.449
went into hiding. And then at the 25th anniversary

00:56:04.449 --> 00:56:06.909
of the launch, he gave the most cryptic speech

00:56:06.909 --> 00:56:09.829
for this team of high school graduates, like

00:56:09.829 --> 00:56:12.099
these honor students. Yeah. You should see the

00:56:12.099 --> 00:56:14.960
speech because the speech is nuts And then I

00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:17.059
went back and watched the post -flight press

00:56:17.059 --> 00:56:19.400
conference when they supposedly landed after

00:56:19.400 --> 00:56:21.920
they landed on the moon and came back home It's

00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:24.920
like a hostage video. It's the weirdest behavior.

00:56:25.079 --> 00:56:28.679
They seem like they're there's a guy was a body

00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:30.480
language expert He's like these guys are all

00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:33.719
being deceptive He analyzed it on YouTube and

00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:35.719
he's like this guy what he's doing here. Like

00:56:35.719 --> 00:56:38.539
this guy's being deceptive. This is clear deceptive

00:56:38.539 --> 00:56:41.130
behavior I mean, I've checked it so many times

00:56:41.130 --> 00:56:43.769
online and everybody said, it's been refused.

00:56:43.949 --> 00:56:47.969
But my whole thing is like, it was 1969. I had

00:56:47.969 --> 00:56:50.590
a 69 Chevy and I used to drive it from Boston

00:56:50.590 --> 00:56:52.989
to New York and it would break down about half

00:56:52.989 --> 00:56:58.090
the time. Yeah, that's different. That's different.

00:56:58.110 --> 00:56:59.849
Is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's still a fucking,

00:56:59.969 --> 00:57:02.010
it was a gas powered engine. Right. But it would

00:57:02.010 --> 00:57:04.630
go one, if you had to take one trip with it,

00:57:04.630 --> 00:57:06.809
it would make it. They were just not that good

00:57:06.809 --> 00:57:09.739
over time. They weren't that reliable. What was

00:57:09.739 --> 00:57:13.980
the equivalent computing power that they had

00:57:13.980 --> 00:57:17.059
on that Apollo that we would have? Is it our

00:57:17.059 --> 00:57:19.099
phone? Your phone is way more powerful. You're

00:57:19.099 --> 00:57:21.360
way more powerful than a room of supercomputers.

00:57:21.519 --> 00:57:26.099
However, it doesn't take immense computing power

00:57:26.099 --> 00:57:28.900
once you've got the calculations and you understand

00:57:28.900 --> 00:57:30.699
the trajectory and that you're going to use the

00:57:30.699 --> 00:57:32.579
gravity of the moon, you're going to slingshot

00:57:32.579 --> 00:57:34.690
around the moon and come back. That's not the

00:57:34.690 --> 00:57:37.070
problem. The problem is the Van Allen radiation

00:57:37.070 --> 00:57:39.190
belts. There's a thick band of radiation that

00:57:39.190 --> 00:57:43.050
surrounds the earth. And not just that, but they

00:57:43.050 --> 00:57:46.230
tried experiments to blow holes in that radiation

00:57:46.230 --> 00:57:49.269
belt. There's this thing called Operation Starfish

00:57:49.269 --> 00:57:53.610
Prime, where they launched nukes into space and

00:57:53.610 --> 00:57:56.590
have them detonate them in the belts. And they

00:57:56.590 --> 00:57:58.829
thought they got blow a hole through it, did

00:57:58.829 --> 00:58:01.190
the opposite, made the belt supercharged, made

00:58:01.190 --> 00:58:04.460
it way more radioactive. Yeah. Yeah, at least

00:58:04.460 --> 00:58:07.519
temporarily The problem is they've never sent

00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:09.840
anything out in a deep space and had it come

00:58:09.840 --> 00:58:12.579
back alive except the Apollo astronauts They

00:58:12.579 --> 00:58:14.619
never even sent a chicken out there and had to

00:58:14.619 --> 00:58:17.059
come back alive. There's all sorts of crazy shit

00:58:17.059 --> 00:58:19.780
with Radiation and solar if there was any sort

00:58:19.780 --> 00:58:22.500
of solar flare everyone's dead Yeah, if there's

00:58:22.500 --> 00:58:25.719
any sort of like weirdness space weirdness radiation

00:58:25.719 --> 00:58:29.539
weirdness dead Very little protection, thin aluminum

00:58:29.539 --> 00:58:32.380
shield. It just didn't make any sense. And also,

00:58:32.659 --> 00:58:35.739
there's not been a single thing from 1969 that's

00:58:35.739 --> 00:58:40.139
not cheaper, easier, and better today other than

00:58:40.139 --> 00:58:42.400
the moon landing. And we haven't done it. Yeah,

00:58:42.480 --> 00:58:45.539
we haven't done it since 72. Isn't that crazy?

00:58:45.639 --> 00:58:48.000
It's nuts. It doesn't seem real. It was also

00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:49.179
the first time where - By the way, can I just

00:58:49.179 --> 00:58:51.699
stop for a moment and go, having a talk about

00:58:51.699 --> 00:58:54.400
moon landing with Joe Rogan is a little bit like

00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:57.510
playing like - pick up basketball with the Celtics.

00:58:58.750 --> 00:59:01.690
It's just a moment in time. I know too much.

00:59:02.090 --> 00:59:04.630
I know I've spent a stupid amount of time of

00:59:04.630 --> 00:59:08.210
my life studying this. Yeah, it was also Werner

00:59:08.210 --> 00:59:11.489
von Braun, you know, publicly said before he

00:59:11.489 --> 00:59:13.110
even got involved with NASA, you couldn't go

00:59:13.110 --> 00:59:15.190
to the moon. It's like it would take it would

00:59:15.190 --> 00:59:17.969
take so much fuel to get there. It would take

00:59:17.969 --> 00:59:20.469
the rockets would have to be so big to get there

00:59:20.469 --> 00:59:23.590
that it wouldn't be possible. And he also went

00:59:23.590 --> 00:59:26.610
to Antarctica before the moon landings to pick

00:59:26.610 --> 00:59:30.570
up moon rocks. It was a publicly known trip.

00:59:31.309 --> 00:59:33.010
Antarctica is a great place to get meteorites

00:59:33.010 --> 00:59:35.599
because it's all white. You know, it's all just

00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:37.960
so when they land you can see them and a lot

00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:39.739
of our meteorites come off the moon The moon

00:59:39.739 --> 00:59:42.920
gets hit chunk flies off enters Earth's atmosphere

00:59:42.920 --> 00:59:46.679
lands on earth is commonly known, right? So he

00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:50.639
did that and then they gave away a piece of moon

00:59:50.639 --> 00:59:53.659
rock that they got from the moon To the prime

00:59:53.659 --> 00:59:56.840
minister of the Netherlands. I think look that

00:59:56.840 --> 01:00:01.320
up And this is like Buzz Aldrin, Michael Collins,

01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:05.000
Neil Armstrong presented this. Like, look, sir,

01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:06.719
we've given you a chunk of the moon. Turned out

01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:09.440
it was a piece of petrified wood. They had it

01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:11.840
analyzed years later. It was not a moon rock.

01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:14.179
They just like, fuck these people. Yeah. Give

01:00:14.179 --> 01:00:16.719
them that fucking colored rock over there. Tell

01:00:16.719 --> 01:00:19.300
them it's from the moon. And somebody got suspicious.

01:00:19.440 --> 01:00:21.139
Like, what is this? It's like your wife finding

01:00:21.139 --> 01:00:22.619
out it's a cubic zirconium on her finger. Moon

01:00:22.619 --> 01:00:26.239
rock turns out to be fake. Dutch national. Boy,

01:00:26.300 --> 01:00:30.159
say that word. Rick's Museum. Rick's Museum made

01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:31.840
an embarrassing announcement last week. One of

01:00:31.840 --> 01:00:34.559
its most loved possessions, a moon rock, is fake.

01:00:34.880 --> 01:00:37.019
It's just an old piece of petrified wood that's

01:00:37.019 --> 01:00:39.920
never been anywhere near the moon. And it was

01:00:39.920 --> 01:00:47.519
given to them. So when was it given to them?

01:00:47.639 --> 01:00:51.360
Does it say? Okay. Okay. The rock was given as

01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:53.820
a private gift to former prime minister William

01:00:53.820 --> 01:00:57.719
Dries Jr. in 1969 by the U .S. ambassador to

01:00:57.719 --> 01:01:01.860
the Netherlands, J. William Middendorf. the second,

01:01:02.300 --> 01:01:05.360
during a visit by the Apollo 11 astronauts Armstrong,

01:01:05.679 --> 01:01:08.039
Collins, and Aldrin. Soon after the first moon

01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:10.940
landing, Dries had been out of office for 11

01:01:10.940 --> 01:01:13.059
years, but was considered an elder statesman.

01:01:13.219 --> 01:01:15.699
When he died in 88, the rock was donated to the

01:01:15.699 --> 01:01:18.039
Ricks Museum, where it has remained ever since,

01:01:18.059 --> 01:01:21.059
according to a museum spokeswoman, Ms. Van Gelder.

01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:23.679
No one doubted the authenticity of the rock because

01:01:23.679 --> 01:01:26.179
it was in the prime minister's own collection,

01:01:26.340 --> 01:01:28.980
and they had vetted the acquisition by a phone

01:01:28.980 --> 01:01:35.639
call to NASA. It was insured for approximately

01:01:35.639 --> 01:01:37.400
half a million dollars, but its actual value

01:01:37.400 --> 01:01:40.000
is probably no more than 70 bucks The value is

01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:41.380
what someone's willing to pay for it. I'll give

01:01:41.380 --> 01:01:44.179
you a hundred for it. It's for me I want that

01:01:44.179 --> 01:01:46.719
fake move rock if anybody has it Yeah, I will

01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:49.099
give you ten thousand dollars for that fake moon

01:01:49.099 --> 01:01:53.460
right on this table And also like they get to

01:01:53.460 --> 01:01:55.119
the moon and you're like, all right They made

01:01:55.119 --> 01:01:58.719
it to the moon in a 69 Chevy and now they got

01:01:58.719 --> 01:02:04.250
a car what on the moon car Where was it? There's

01:02:04.250 --> 01:02:07.530
a bunch of shit, man. There's the flag hop. There's

01:02:07.530 --> 01:02:09.969
an astronaut hops by the flag and it blows in

01:02:09.969 --> 01:02:13.070
his breeze in an atmosphereless moon. Like, there's

01:02:13.070 --> 01:02:16.730
so many problems with it. And you could say you're

01:02:16.730 --> 01:02:19.010
gaslighting yourself if you don't say there's

01:02:19.010 --> 01:02:21.010
no problems with the moon landing. It's fucking

01:02:21.010 --> 01:02:23.610
weird. The intersecting shadows and people like,

01:02:23.630 --> 01:02:25.610
well, it indicates two light sources. Like, no,

01:02:25.610 --> 01:02:28.010
no, no. It could be the invite. It could be,

01:02:28.349 --> 01:02:29.969
but it could be intersecting shadows because

01:02:29.969 --> 01:02:31.949
of different life sources. It could be not just

01:02:31.949 --> 01:02:35.320
the sun, but like a fucking studio stage. Wasn't

01:02:35.320 --> 01:02:37.639
there something about lights in the horizon that

01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:40.159
were that should have been there? Well, lights

01:02:40.159 --> 01:02:42.920
in space. But the thing is, it's like if you're

01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:45.079
trying to film the surface of the moon in this

01:02:45.079 --> 01:02:48.179
in the day, you're not going to see any stars

01:02:48.179 --> 01:02:49.840
in the sky because it's going to be just like

01:02:49.840 --> 01:02:52.679
the stars on Earth. It's black, you know, black,

01:02:52.820 --> 01:02:55.389
the light. that's reflected off the moon's surface

01:02:55.389 --> 01:02:57.510
is probably gonna drown out most of it. It's

01:02:57.510 --> 01:02:59.110
probably gonna be like, you know you go out of

01:02:59.110 --> 01:03:01.530
New York City, you see a couple stars, right?

01:03:01.690 --> 01:03:03.869
Now think of the amount of light that's in New

01:03:03.869 --> 01:03:06.929
York City and think of the sun blasting down

01:03:06.929 --> 01:03:09.730
on the white surface of the fucking moon and

01:03:09.730 --> 01:03:12.590
how much reflection that must give. That makes

01:03:12.590 --> 01:03:15.090
sense. But it doesn't make sense that they didn't

01:03:15.090 --> 01:03:18.730
set a camera up with the aperture set up correctly,

01:03:18.989 --> 01:03:21.489
where you get a time -lapse photo, so you could

01:03:21.489 --> 01:03:24.070
get images of space. That could easily have been

01:03:24.070 --> 01:03:26.030
done. They didn't do any of that. But the problem

01:03:26.030 --> 01:03:29.070
with that is, if you took a photo from the moon,

01:03:29.710 --> 01:03:31.130
astronomers would be able to go, well, that doesn't

01:03:31.130 --> 01:03:33.630
make any sense. This is not here. That's not

01:03:33.630 --> 01:03:35.769
there. That's not where these constellations

01:03:35.769 --> 01:03:38.690
would be. So it's too much work to place all

01:03:38.690 --> 01:03:40.929
the stars in the exact order. So just have it

01:03:40.929 --> 01:03:45.920
black. Have a black. Yeah, find the Apollo the

01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:50.280
speech by Neil Armstrong at the 25th anniversary

01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:53.800
because the speeches Bananas, it's so cryptic.

01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:55.539
This is a guy who went to the moon and he's talking

01:03:55.539 --> 01:03:59.139
to these genius kids and Instead of saying hey,

01:03:59.260 --> 01:04:01.659
we went to the moon. Listen to what he says because

01:04:01.659 --> 01:04:04.320
it's it's fucking cookie put on the put on the

01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:08.570
headphones That's not on your Desktop, Jamie?

01:04:08.730 --> 01:04:10.650
That should be in a folder, a saved folder. We

01:04:10.650 --> 01:04:13.710
pulled that thing up about 30 times. There's

01:04:13.710 --> 01:04:16.710
a lot of weirdness to it. And also, you're dealing

01:04:16.710 --> 01:04:19.469
with 1969. Richard Nixon's president, they lied

01:04:19.469 --> 01:04:21.329
about everything. This is, they lied about going

01:04:21.329 --> 01:04:23.650
into the Vietnam War. They were about to do Operation

01:04:23.650 --> 01:04:26.730
Northwoods where they're going to bomb Quantanamo

01:04:26.730 --> 01:04:28.429
Bay and blame it on the Cubans so that we can

01:04:28.429 --> 01:04:30.030
go to war with Cuba. They were going to blow

01:04:30.030 --> 01:04:33.289
up an American jetliner and blame it on Cuba.

01:04:33.610 --> 01:04:36.289
There was all the lies about drugs to start the

01:04:36.289 --> 01:04:38.670
war on drugs. Put the headphones on real quick.

01:04:39.030 --> 01:04:42.670
Listen to this. So this is the 25th anniversary.

01:04:44.670 --> 01:04:48.110
Let's hear, play this. On the 25th anniversary

01:04:48.110 --> 01:04:51.949
of the event in 1994, Neil Armstrong made a rare

01:04:51.949 --> 01:04:55.070
public appearance and held back tears as he spoke

01:04:55.070 --> 01:04:58.130
these brief cryptic remarks before the next generation

01:04:58.130 --> 01:05:00.809
of taxpayers as they toured the White House.

01:05:02.090 --> 01:05:06.650
Today we have with us a group of students among

01:05:06.650 --> 01:05:12.989
America's best. To you we say we've only completed

01:05:12.989 --> 01:05:19.409
a beginning. We leave you much that is undone.

01:05:20.909 --> 01:05:25.170
There are great ideas undiscovered, breakthroughs

01:05:25.170 --> 01:05:30.579
available to those who can remove one of truth's

01:05:30.579 --> 01:05:35.500
protective layers. What? What does that mean?

01:05:36.139 --> 01:05:41.460
One of truth's protective layers? That's odd.

01:05:42.340 --> 01:05:45.980
Beyond. You're talking to genius kids and you're

01:05:45.980 --> 01:05:48.000
leaving a cryptic mark about truth's protect...

01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:49.400
How about saying, I went to the fucking moon,

01:05:49.440 --> 01:05:51.480
bitch. You can go to the moon too. We could all

01:05:51.480 --> 01:05:53.219
go to the moon. We should go to Mars. We could

01:05:53.219 --> 01:05:57.900
colonize space. No. Great breakthroughs. For

01:05:57.900 --> 01:06:00.360
those who could remove one of truth's protective

01:06:00.360 --> 01:06:04.579
layers truth Protectively like this good great

01:06:04.579 --> 01:06:06.000
breakthroughs, but you have to realize we didn't

01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:09.420
really go to the moon Okay, that is one of truth's

01:06:09.420 --> 01:06:13.960
protective layers Yeah, it's filled with but

01:06:13.960 --> 01:06:16.900
you have to be willing to be looked at as a fool

01:06:17.639 --> 01:06:20.440
Didn't Kubrick say that he shot the footage?

01:06:20.559 --> 01:06:22.579
No, no, that's all fake. Oh, that's all fake.

01:06:22.920 --> 01:06:25.059
Yeah, there's the that's the big rumor So the

01:06:25.059 --> 01:06:26.900
thought was the Kubrick was involved because

01:06:26.900 --> 01:06:29.179
you would take it would take a genius To be able

01:06:29.179 --> 01:06:32.280
to film it to make it look like the moon landing

01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:34.800
Could be possible. You're dealing with Kubrick.

01:06:34.800 --> 01:06:38.699
That was coincide that was coinciding with 2001

01:06:38.699 --> 01:06:41.300
space odyssey. It was at the same time and all

01:06:41.300 --> 01:06:44.039
this was going on You know during the same time

01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:47.170
period so If there was a guy that could do it,

01:06:47.170 --> 01:06:50.170
it would be Kubrick. But is there any evidence

01:06:50.170 --> 01:06:52.710
that Kubrick even talked to them? I don't know.

01:06:53.849 --> 01:06:56.170
You know, you'd have to have someone like him,

01:06:56.449 --> 01:06:58.869
though, because you're faking this thing and

01:06:58.869 --> 01:07:00.889
you're trying to make it look pretty realistic.

01:07:01.630 --> 01:07:04.429
There's other problems. There's reoccurring backgrounds

01:07:04.429 --> 01:07:07.389
that are from places that are nowhere near the

01:07:07.389 --> 01:07:10.070
same place. But if you overlay them, they look

01:07:10.070 --> 01:07:11.670
exactly the same, like the same mountains in

01:07:11.670 --> 01:07:15.989
the background, the same tomography. topography

01:07:15.989 --> 01:07:21.010
rather you can You can go For weeks and weeks

01:07:21.010 --> 01:07:23.510
down this rabbit hole and lose your fucking marbles

01:07:23.510 --> 01:07:26.650
Yeah What I like about it is when you talk if

01:07:26.650 --> 01:07:28.230
you're talking to someone annoying and they want

01:07:28.230 --> 01:07:30.010
to talk to you about like Serious stuff and you

01:07:30.010 --> 01:07:35.750
don't think we went to the moon. They go. I gotta

01:07:35.750 --> 01:07:39.809
go Yeah, yeah, it's great for me who has a bunch

01:07:39.809 --> 01:07:42.150
of like very public opinions about things like

01:07:42.329 --> 01:07:46.889
Please dismiss me. I should not be a voice of

01:07:46.889 --> 01:07:50.090
Like any kind of voice of authority or any kind

01:07:50.090 --> 01:07:52.070
of voice of what's true and what's not and what

01:07:52.070 --> 01:07:55.090
I'm just talking shit Okay, that's what I do.

01:07:55.090 --> 01:07:57.989
I'm not some official source of information.

01:07:58.190 --> 01:08:01.610
I don't want to be so like I like talking about

01:08:01.610 --> 01:08:03.690
the moon day and because he doesn't believe we

01:08:03.690 --> 01:08:06.329
went to the moon You're right. I don't good.

01:08:06.630 --> 01:08:10.130
Yeah Don't listen to me. You don't have to listen

01:08:10.130 --> 01:08:13.010
to me. Mm -hmm I'm not saying I'm right, but

01:08:13.010 --> 01:08:16.489
what I am saying is if there's one fucking conspiracy

01:08:16.489 --> 01:08:20.689
that I think is the most unlikely, the most preposterous

01:08:20.689 --> 01:08:23.369
in the public eyes, but might be true, it's that

01:08:23.369 --> 01:08:25.810
we didn't go to the moon. I remember I hadn't

01:08:25.810 --> 01:08:29.149
smoked pot because I haven't drank in 35 years

01:08:29.149 --> 01:08:32.609
and I didn't smoke pot for 20. And then one night

01:08:32.609 --> 01:08:34.729
I was with my buddy Ross Broccoli. I don't know

01:08:34.729 --> 01:08:36.170
if you remember that guy. He was a comic out

01:08:36.170 --> 01:08:39.100
of New York. and he had a pickup truck and I

01:08:39.100 --> 01:08:41.819
was doing a gig in Omaha. So he lives on a farm

01:08:41.819 --> 01:08:44.600
in Lincoln, picks me up in his old pickup truck

01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:47.439
and we smoked pot on the way back from the gig.

01:08:47.479 --> 01:08:49.520
And then we get to his house and we start showing

01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:53.260
me footage of the moon landing. I was up all

01:08:53.260 --> 01:08:57.979
night, just high talking about how the spacesuit

01:08:57.979 --> 01:09:00.539
had a fucking, clearly there was a rope pulling

01:09:00.539 --> 01:09:03.119
on the back of the guys. Yeah, the wires. The

01:09:03.119 --> 01:09:05.399
wires pulling on the end. I was just like, what?

01:09:05.399 --> 01:09:08.239
Well, have you seen the physics of guys falling

01:09:08.239 --> 01:09:10.579
down and then getting yanked back up to their

01:09:10.579 --> 01:09:14.140
feet like that also I This is another guy that

01:09:14.140 --> 01:09:15.640
I talked to that's a physicist It doesn't want

01:09:15.640 --> 01:09:18.060
to be named and he said my problem has always

01:09:18.060 --> 01:09:20.579
been with the physics of one six Earth's gravity

01:09:20.579 --> 01:09:22.859
He goes those people are not behaving like it's

01:09:22.859 --> 01:09:24.779
one six Earth's gravity He goes when I look at

01:09:24.779 --> 01:09:26.760
it, it looks like it's in slow motion But there's

01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:28.619
no indication that they can do things that you

01:09:28.619 --> 01:09:32.380
can't do in regular gravity He's like one six

01:09:32.380 --> 01:09:35.649
Earth gravity is crazy Could you like look I

01:09:35.649 --> 01:09:38.789
weigh 200 pounds imagine if I weighed 1 6th of

01:09:38.789 --> 01:09:41.729
200 pounds with 200 pounds of strength How high

01:09:41.729 --> 01:09:45.930
I could jump? Dude, I probably jumped 20 fucking

01:09:45.930 --> 01:09:48.750
feet in the air. Like what is that? What is 1

01:09:48.750 --> 01:09:54.109
6th of 200? Okay, imagine how far I can throw

01:09:54.109 --> 01:09:57.869
35 pounds I could take a 35 pound kettlebell

01:09:57.869 --> 01:10:00.430
and chuck it across the room. Especially if I

01:10:00.430 --> 01:10:02.989
wind up, if I spin around like a fucking shot

01:10:02.989 --> 01:10:05.489
putter, I'll fucking throw that thing. Imagine

01:10:05.489 --> 01:10:07.710
what you could do with a running start if you

01:10:07.710 --> 01:10:09.930
weighed 35 pounds and just leaped in the air.

01:10:10.329 --> 01:10:13.569
You could fly. This was his take on it. He was

01:10:13.569 --> 01:10:17.329
like, we don't have any observable. instances

01:10:17.329 --> 01:10:20.170
of people operating in one six Earth gravity

01:10:20.170 --> 01:10:22.750
except for the moon missions and he said enough

01:10:22.750 --> 01:10:25.510
it just always seems weird to me he goes because

01:10:25.510 --> 01:10:27.529
when you look at the people in zero gravity they

01:10:27.529 --> 01:10:29.789
behave exactly like zero gravity you look at

01:10:29.789 --> 01:10:31.430
people in the space station he goes all that

01:10:31.430 --> 01:10:34.329
matches they can all float around they can spin

01:10:34.329 --> 01:10:36.710
it seems funny they can like drift toothpaste

01:10:36.710 --> 01:10:38.890
to each other and they catch it he goes all that

01:10:38.890 --> 01:10:42.409
track tracks it's like the the moon landing he

01:10:42.409 --> 01:10:44.590
goes like it's weird he goes I see them they're

01:10:44.590 --> 01:10:46.710
like kind of hopping around and then when you

01:10:46.710 --> 01:10:49.430
speed it up like when you make it double speed

01:10:49.430 --> 01:10:51.789
it looks like they're on earth just hopping around

01:10:51.789 --> 01:10:56.630
on earth also did were they live streaming it

01:10:56.630 --> 01:10:59.970
yes i mean back then you your phone was attached

01:10:59.970 --> 01:11:03.720
to the wall in the kitchen and You know what

01:11:03.720 --> 01:11:05.979
I mean like right, but they could do some things

01:11:05.979 --> 01:11:08.380
live streaming back then Here's part of the problem

01:11:08.380 --> 01:11:10.640
with it though when they live streamed in on

01:11:10.640 --> 01:11:13.939
television the news Stations for the first time

01:11:13.939 --> 01:11:16.380
ever were not allowed to get a direct feed What

01:11:16.380 --> 01:11:17.979
they did was they had to point their cameras

01:11:17.979 --> 01:11:22.300
at a projection screen and so NASA Projected

01:11:22.300 --> 01:11:24.439
the images of these guys the video of these guys

01:11:24.439 --> 01:11:26.939
on the moon And that's why the original Apollo

01:11:26.939 --> 01:11:29.300
mission is so grainy and shitty looking like

01:11:29.300 --> 01:11:33.500
what better way to hide the, you know, the weirdness

01:11:33.500 --> 01:11:37.180
of it all, than to make people film off of a

01:11:37.180 --> 01:11:39.520
projection screen. Like, see if you can find

01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:43.380
the original footage of the moon mission as seen

01:11:43.380 --> 01:11:47.420
on television. It's all weird, man. All of it's

01:11:47.420 --> 01:11:50.760
weird. The photographs are weird. It's weird.

01:11:50.819 --> 01:11:53.819
There was this documentary that I saw once. It

01:11:53.819 --> 01:12:00.279
came out around 91, maybe. And it tracked the

01:12:00.279 --> 01:12:03.659
lives of the men who had been on the moon, the

01:12:03.659 --> 01:12:05.220
first ones that had been. I don't know if it

01:12:05.220 --> 01:12:06.899
was the first, but the first couple of waves.

01:12:08.060 --> 01:12:11.659
And they all had these crazy existential experiences.

01:12:11.779 --> 01:12:14.159
One guy spent the rest of his life looking for

01:12:14.159 --> 01:12:17.100
Noah's Ark. I think one of them committed suicide.

01:12:17.859 --> 01:12:21.699
One was like a born again. Yeah. Well, they were

01:12:21.699 --> 01:12:23.399
probably forced to lie in front of the whole

01:12:23.399 --> 01:12:25.960
world. And they had to live as a fraud, if it's

01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:27.899
true that they didn't go to the moon. I mean,

01:12:28.039 --> 01:12:30.840
it tracks with their behavior. Neil Armstrong

01:12:30.840 --> 01:12:33.119
became a recluse, didn't want to give interviews,

01:12:33.220 --> 01:12:35.079
didn't want to talk to people. But this is what

01:12:35.079 --> 01:12:38.579
you got to see on TV. It's just like, what is

01:12:38.579 --> 01:12:50.739
this? It's real weird. Nixon talking to them

01:12:50.739 --> 01:12:55.960
on the phone. Congratulations boys Like maybe

01:12:55.960 --> 01:12:58.300
they had some sort of technology they could communicate

01:12:58.300 --> 01:13:00.680
with people that far away But like wouldn't there

01:13:00.680 --> 01:13:07.479
be an immense delay? Yeah How much? Well, I'm

01:13:07.479 --> 01:13:09.779
sure they would probably calculate that delay

01:13:09.779 --> 01:13:11.319
into the conversation if they were trying to

01:13:11.319 --> 01:13:14.779
fake it But the point is it's it's highly unlikely

01:13:14.779 --> 01:13:18.300
that we would do that in 1969 and not have bases

01:13:18.300 --> 01:13:20.859
in the moon by now. It's highly unlikely Well,

01:13:20.859 --> 01:13:22.920
we spend a lot of money. That's the other thing

01:13:22.920 --> 01:13:26.720
all of the technology is missing right the telemetry

01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:29.390
data. They deleted all that which is like the

01:13:29.390 --> 01:13:32.069
real information that tracks the mission at every

01:13:32.069 --> 01:13:33.989
step of the way. All that's gone. They deleted

01:13:33.989 --> 01:13:36.390
that. They deleted all the original videos, all

01:13:36.390 --> 01:13:38.789
the original film gone. All you get is copies.

01:13:39.409 --> 01:13:44.850
So nothing can be analyzed. 2 .6 second round

01:13:44.850 --> 01:13:47.689
trip light speed delay appears in the original

01:13:47.689 --> 01:13:51.590
Apollo 11 recordings of Nixon's phone call. Well,

01:13:51.710 --> 01:13:53.529
I would do that. I would make a little delay.

01:13:53.810 --> 01:13:55.390
I wouldn't make it instantaneous if I was going

01:13:55.390 --> 01:13:56.909
to fake it, especially if you're like fucking

01:13:56.909 --> 01:14:00.600
Stanley Kubrick. Yeah, it's it's all like real

01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:04.380
weird man. It's real weird cuz I the first thing

01:14:04.380 --> 01:14:07.300
that I saw that made me think about it was this

01:14:07.300 --> 01:14:09.640
Bart Sabrell movie a funny thing happened on

01:14:09.640 --> 01:14:11.939
the way to the moon and I had him on the podcast

01:14:11.939 --> 01:14:13.579
and that Neil Armstrong thing That's the first

01:14:13.579 --> 01:14:15.340
time I saw that that's that clips actually from

01:14:15.340 --> 01:14:18.979
that documentary the documentary is crazy There's

01:14:18.979 --> 01:14:20.840
a lot of things in that documentary. Just like

01:14:20.840 --> 01:14:24.479
what yeah what? Hmm, but a lot of those astronauts

01:14:24.479 --> 01:14:27.109
got real fucking weird when they came back But

01:14:27.109 --> 01:14:29.029
also, you'd probably get real weird if you went

01:14:29.029 --> 01:14:31.590
to the moon, too. Exactly. Well, the guys that

01:14:31.590 --> 01:14:34.710
just go in space, which I do believe they went

01:14:34.710 --> 01:14:37.430
in space, guys that just go to the space station

01:14:37.430 --> 01:14:39.529
and come back and they have this very profound

01:14:39.529 --> 01:14:41.470
experience of seeing the Earth from the distance

01:14:41.470 --> 01:14:43.770
and they just realize like, oh my God, we're

01:14:43.770 --> 01:14:46.090
such fools. We're all together alone on this

01:14:46.090 --> 01:14:48.930
one thing. We're fighting over nonsense and borders

01:14:48.930 --> 01:14:51.489
and resources. There's enough for everyone. We

01:14:51.489 --> 01:14:54.449
should just unite as a human race. And it's like

01:14:54.449 --> 01:14:58.899
this... They all have a very similar kind of

01:14:58.899 --> 01:15:01.720
epiphany when they go up there. Mm -hmm, which

01:15:01.720 --> 01:15:04.100
makes sense I mean you're way up in that you're

01:15:04.100 --> 01:15:06.619
300 miles above the earth looking down on it

01:15:06.619 --> 01:15:08.800
Yeah, you know how important this blue circle

01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:12.399
is to you, right? I Mean that would weird you

01:15:12.399 --> 01:15:15.140
out period. I think we good for people more people

01:15:15.140 --> 01:15:17.140
that can see that the better Yeah, it did for

01:15:17.140 --> 01:15:20.729
Katy Perry Like what it did for her career. She

01:15:20.729 --> 01:15:23.369
came back an astronaut. It literally ruined her

01:15:23.369 --> 01:15:24.869
career. I don't understand why it ruined her.

01:15:25.010 --> 01:15:26.829
Like what was the big deal? I don't know. It

01:15:26.829 --> 01:15:29.960
was... People were mad at her. Feel like it's

01:15:29.960 --> 01:15:32.159
like that when you see certain actresses at the

01:15:32.159 --> 01:15:36.140
Oscars act like fucking lunatics like I forget

01:15:36.140 --> 01:15:39.060
that woman's name but some actress and they overdo

01:15:39.060 --> 01:15:43.020
the speech and everybody goes like Fucking phony

01:15:43.020 --> 01:15:45.140
weirdo and then you just don't want to see their

01:15:45.140 --> 01:15:48.000
movies anymore. That is true It does happen where

01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:50.399
they just talk too much about politics or social

01:15:50.399 --> 01:15:52.699
issues like that poor girl That was a really

01:15:52.699 --> 01:15:55.329
young girl that played Snow White And she tanked

01:15:55.329 --> 01:15:57.489
the movie. Nobody wanted to see the movie after

01:15:57.489 --> 01:16:01.069
she was talking. Oh, God. I know. Just shut up.

01:16:02.050 --> 01:16:04.850
These kids, they get so wrapped up in this social

01:16:04.850 --> 01:16:07.829
media echo chamber of being like a virtuous social

01:16:07.829 --> 01:16:11.069
justice warrior. And they want to use their platform.

01:16:11.270 --> 01:16:14.310
And like, hey, honey, you're 19. Like, when I

01:16:14.310 --> 01:16:16.590
was 19, thank God nobody put a microphone in

01:16:16.590 --> 01:16:19.890
front of my face. Thank God. No one asked me

01:16:19.890 --> 01:16:22.729
what I thought about global events and world

01:16:22.729 --> 01:16:27.380
politics. Social justice. Thank God. Thank God.

01:16:27.439 --> 01:16:31.859
I didn't have Twitter the So I I spoke to you

01:16:31.859 --> 01:16:34.039
on the phone about a month ago and I started

01:16:34.039 --> 01:16:37.159
to tell you a story and You had heard it and

01:16:37.159 --> 01:16:39.319
you said save it for the podcast. Yeah. All right,

01:16:39.380 --> 01:16:44.000
so I go to Alaska in October And I'm doing a

01:16:44.000 --> 01:16:47.470
couple of shows and so the guy that runs it says

01:16:47.470 --> 01:16:49.829
to me, I go, I'd like to do something, you know,

01:16:50.029 --> 01:16:51.989
outdoorsy while I'm here. It's still, you know,

01:16:52.109 --> 01:16:54.010
it's early October, so it's not too cold yet.

01:16:54.510 --> 01:16:56.710
And he calls me back and he goes, well, I know

01:16:56.710 --> 01:17:00.489
this guy, he's got an outdoorsy company and he's

01:17:00.489 --> 01:17:02.329
a fan of yours and he wants to take you out on

01:17:02.329 --> 01:17:04.630
an adventure. And now I hear adventure, I'm like,

01:17:04.810 --> 01:17:06.810
that sounds like more than I want. I was just

01:17:06.810 --> 01:17:09.289
looking for like maybe a quick danger. And so,

01:17:09.489 --> 01:17:11.270
because I'm, you know, I'm a pussy, I'm not like

01:17:11.270 --> 01:17:13.350
you. I don't want to fucking be outside that.

01:17:13.409 --> 01:17:17.470
I love the indoors. The indoor is his victory

01:17:17.470 --> 01:17:20.229
to me. And so the guy picks me up and he's got

01:17:20.229 --> 01:17:23.430
a big pickup and a trailer on the back with a

01:17:23.430 --> 01:17:25.909
muddy dune buggy. And I get in and he shakes

01:17:25.909 --> 01:17:28.689
my hand and he's got a fucking rough grip. He's

01:17:28.689 --> 01:17:30.289
like, how are you doing? And I immediately feel

01:17:30.289 --> 01:17:33.250
like such a pussy. Like my hand goes limp and

01:17:33.250 --> 01:17:36.649
I'm like, hi. And so we start driving and he

01:17:36.649 --> 01:17:38.689
seems a really good guy. And I started to warm

01:17:38.689 --> 01:17:41.789
up to him. And then this police siren goes off

01:17:41.789 --> 01:17:44.569
behind us. So he starts pulling over and he goes,

01:17:44.630 --> 01:17:47.710
this is bad. And I was like, what do you mean?

01:17:47.850 --> 01:17:49.789
I go, you didn't do anything. I go, this is fine.

01:17:49.810 --> 01:17:53.930
He goes, no, this is bad. I'm like, what? So

01:17:53.930 --> 01:17:56.609
we pull over, and I swear to God, every word

01:17:56.609 --> 01:17:59.829
of this is true. So this cop starts walking up

01:17:59.829 --> 01:18:02.029
towards the car. He's about six foot four. And

01:18:02.029 --> 01:18:05.470
as he walks, the guy driving hands me a baggie

01:18:05.470 --> 01:18:08.329
with white powder. And part of it spills on my

01:18:08.329 --> 01:18:11.770
pants. And he goes, hide this. So I shove it

01:18:11.770 --> 01:18:15.840
under the car seat. The cop walks up and he goes,

01:18:16.260 --> 01:18:17.939
license and registration. So the guy says to

01:18:17.939 --> 01:18:20.399
me, open my glove compartment, get the LISO.

01:18:20.479 --> 01:18:23.140
I open his glove compartment and another baggie

01:18:23.140 --> 01:18:25.380
with white pills and hundred dollar bills pops

01:18:25.380 --> 01:18:27.939
out. And I shove it back in with my hand and

01:18:27.939 --> 01:18:29.840
I cover it with a piece of paper, which I don't

01:18:29.840 --> 01:18:31.500
even know why I'm doing that. Like, all of a

01:18:31.500 --> 01:18:33.180
sudden you're like a teenager again and there's

01:18:33.180 --> 01:18:35.319
a cop and you got to hide the drugs. I just had

01:18:35.319 --> 01:18:37.760
an instinct. And the cop goes, what are you hiding?

01:18:38.359 --> 01:18:42.720
And I go, nothing. And he goes, So I take the

01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:46.079
bag and I hand him the drugs. And he goes, both

01:18:46.079 --> 01:18:48.460
of you put your hands on the dashboard. And he

01:18:48.460 --> 01:18:50.539
gets the license from the guy and he goes back

01:18:50.539 --> 01:18:53.220
to his car and he runs the license. And I say

01:18:53.220 --> 01:18:56.180
to the guy, I go, what the fuck is going on right

01:18:56.180 --> 01:18:58.260
now? He goes, just don't say anything. I'm like,

01:18:58.359 --> 01:19:01.159
don't say, I don't know what to say. So the cop

01:19:01.159 --> 01:19:03.180
comes back and he goes, do you realize you have

01:19:03.180 --> 01:19:05.500
two outstanding felony warrants? And the guy

01:19:05.500 --> 01:19:09.460
goes, yeah, just yeah. And he goes, do you have

01:19:09.460 --> 01:19:11.319
any guns in the car? And I'm thinking, I would

01:19:11.319 --> 01:19:13.920
imagine, yeah, probably. And the guy goes, no,

01:19:13.939 --> 01:19:16.300
I don't have any guns. So he takes the guy out

01:19:16.300 --> 01:19:19.520
of the car, cuffs him, brings him back to the

01:19:19.520 --> 01:19:21.399
squad car. And now he comes back up to the car

01:19:21.399 --> 01:19:24.060
and he goes, I'm not coming closer. He's standing

01:19:24.060 --> 01:19:26.079
like five feet from the window. He goes, I'm

01:19:26.079 --> 01:19:28.500
not coming closer because that's fentanyl on

01:19:28.500 --> 01:19:32.699
your pants. And I'm like, what? And he goes,

01:19:32.939 --> 01:19:35.619
I go, look, man, I don't even, I met this guy

01:19:35.619 --> 01:19:38.300
20 minutes ago. I said, I'm a comedian. I'm just

01:19:38.300 --> 01:19:40.960
up here doing a show tonight. And he goes, I'm

01:19:40.960 --> 01:19:44.380
not buying your story. And I said, why not? He

01:19:44.380 --> 01:19:47.560
goes, because California is a drug feeder state

01:19:47.560 --> 01:19:50.300
and you say you're a comedian and you haven't

01:19:50.300 --> 01:19:55.420
said anything funny. I'm like, when was I supposed

01:19:55.420 --> 01:19:57.640
to, when should I roast you right now? You didn't

01:19:57.640 --> 01:19:59.899
tell him? Just Google me real quick. Yeah, so

01:19:59.899 --> 01:20:02.960
he goes, how are you feeling? Are you feeling

01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:05.340
any effects from the fentanyl? I go, yeah. I

01:20:05.340 --> 01:20:08.180
said, I feel very lightheaded. I feel weird right

01:20:08.180 --> 01:20:11.199
now. So the guy says, well, where did you get

01:20:11.199 --> 01:20:13.000
the drugs? I said, the glove compartment. He

01:20:13.000 --> 01:20:17.699
goes, he said they're yours. I go, he said they're

01:20:17.699 --> 01:20:20.119
my drugs. So he goes, get out of the car. I have

01:20:20.119 --> 01:20:22.939
a nar cam in my squad car. So I get out of the

01:20:22.939 --> 01:20:25.819
car and I walk back to the car with him. You're

01:20:25.819 --> 01:20:28.500
feeling lightheaded? Oh, yeah. Just from it being

01:20:28.500 --> 01:20:31.060
on your pants. So we get back to the squad car.

01:20:31.359 --> 01:20:33.680
He opens the back door. My guy gets out of the

01:20:33.680 --> 01:20:35.739
car with the cuffs on. They both look at me.

01:20:36.039 --> 01:20:38.119
They break out laughing and they go, we're coming

01:20:38.119 --> 01:20:40.680
to your comedy show tonight. The whole thing

01:20:40.680 --> 01:20:45.880
was a prank. Dude. I fell down on all fours.

01:20:45.899 --> 01:20:49.279
I had tears coming out. I was laughing so...

01:20:49.279 --> 01:20:54.420
I was like, I did not think Alaska had it in

01:20:54.420 --> 01:20:59.579
it to pull this shit. They were howling. That's

01:20:59.579 --> 01:21:01.960
so funny. And so then they put me in the... So

01:21:01.960 --> 01:21:05.159
we go back to the cop's house and he switches

01:21:05.159 --> 01:21:07.659
out of his police clothes, puts on regular clothes.

01:21:08.240 --> 01:21:10.439
And we get in the truck, and he's got a couple

01:21:10.439 --> 01:21:12.159
of tall boys. Now we're drinking and driving

01:21:12.159 --> 01:21:16.060
with the cops. And we drive to this place that's

01:21:16.060 --> 01:21:20.699
like a spa. It's like a hot springs. And we go

01:21:20.699 --> 01:21:23.479
into the water. And then we go to this place

01:21:23.479 --> 01:21:26.359
that's like, it's an ice house. It's the only

01:21:26.359 --> 01:21:30.220
continuously frozen ice house in the world. It's

01:21:30.220 --> 01:21:32.840
huge. It's like a warehouse made of ice. And

01:21:32.840 --> 01:21:34.479
they've got ice sculptures in it. And there's

01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:36.079
this guy in there who's the ice sculptor. And

01:21:36.079 --> 01:21:38.649
he's like world class. And then they got a bar,

01:21:38.789 --> 01:21:41.770
this long bar made out of ice, and it's got stools

01:21:41.770 --> 01:21:44.630
with fur on them, and you sit down, and these

01:21:44.630 --> 01:21:46.789
guys sit down with me, and they proceed to drink

01:21:46.789 --> 01:21:50.109
about eight or nine Appletinis. That's what they

01:21:50.109 --> 01:21:52.930
served at the bar, Appletinis, in frozen glasses.

01:21:53.069 --> 01:21:55.970
The glasses were made of ice. And they're telling

01:21:55.970 --> 01:22:00.310
jokes, pretty racist, and I'm sitting there fucking

01:22:00.310 --> 01:22:02.149
shivering, listening to racist jokes, looking

01:22:02.149 --> 01:22:04.369
at my watch, like, I gotta fucking shiver. So

01:22:04.369 --> 01:22:07.199
we leave. And now we're walking back, and the

01:22:07.199 --> 01:22:09.020
guy's shit -faced, and he goes to get behind

01:22:09.020 --> 01:22:11.880
the truck. I go, no, I'm driving. So now I'm

01:22:11.880 --> 01:22:13.979
behind the wheel of this monster truck with a

01:22:13.979 --> 01:22:16.260
fucking dune buggy behind me while these two

01:22:16.260 --> 01:22:18.960
idiots are laughing at me drunk. We end up going

01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:21.479
straight to my show. They sit in the audience,

01:22:21.640 --> 01:22:24.819
drink more, and heckle me during my show. Oh

01:22:24.819 --> 01:22:29.000
my god. Did you tell the story on stage? Oh,

01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:31.260
fuck yeah. Oh, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:22:31.439 --> 01:22:33.279
And I told this story, I think I told it on somebody

01:22:33.279 --> 01:22:37.399
else's podcast, but you know the guy. Which guy?

01:22:37.520 --> 01:22:44.579
The guy's name is Craig Compost. He's a famous

01:22:44.579 --> 01:22:49.060
Alaskan outdoorsman. I think it's Craig Compost.

01:22:49.460 --> 01:22:52.100
He said he knew you and I think he said he texted

01:22:52.100 --> 01:22:55.979
you that he was hanging out with me. Hmm. Is

01:22:55.979 --> 01:23:01.039
that possible? No. Hmm might have DM'd me. I

01:23:01.039 --> 01:23:03.140
might be like a guy. I know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

01:23:03.140 --> 01:23:06.739
but I think he's a guide. Yeah Find out what

01:23:06.739 --> 01:23:09.020
his last name. Is that really his name Craig?

01:23:09.079 --> 01:23:11.960
I think it's Craig. It's not Cole. Oh, maybe

01:23:11.960 --> 01:23:15.939
Cole Kramer Hmm, you don't know his name. No,

01:23:16.159 --> 01:23:18.359
I thought that was his name. Yeah, it might be

01:23:18.359 --> 01:23:21.680
it might be there's this Yeah, there's a bunch

01:23:21.680 --> 01:23:23.399
of Alaskan guides that I know and if you don't

01:23:23.399 --> 01:23:24.760
know the name, it might be a guy. But he had

01:23:24.760 --> 01:23:26.739
the whole thing on a hidden dash cam and he won't

01:23:26.739 --> 01:23:28.899
send it to me. He doesn't want the cop getting

01:23:28.899 --> 01:23:31.800
into trouble. Bro, that's so funny. He should

01:23:31.800 --> 01:23:34.779
blur the cop's face out. I know. Maybe the voice.

01:23:35.140 --> 01:23:37.680
Blur the cop's face out and distort his voice.

01:23:38.039 --> 01:23:39.479
Tell him to send it to you and you'll have it

01:23:39.479 --> 01:23:44.680
doctored up. Yeah. Is that the guy? It's a younger

01:23:44.680 --> 01:23:47.439
photo if that's him. That's Cole Kramer. Okay.

01:23:48.720 --> 01:23:53.119
He's an Alaskan guide. Yeah. All right. Well,

01:23:53.119 --> 01:23:54.579
it's probably better that I don't name him. Yeah,

01:23:54.640 --> 01:23:56.439
probably better. Definitely. Guy who's trying

01:23:56.439 --> 01:24:00.380
to drink and drive. Meanwhile, you're lightheaded

01:24:00.380 --> 01:24:04.619
just for a placebo effect. Totally. Dude, I thought

01:24:04.619 --> 01:24:07.579
I was flying out of my mind. I mean, just because

01:24:07.579 --> 01:24:10.380
I know people that have died from fentanyl, you

01:24:10.380 --> 01:24:13.659
know? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Do you remember Opie and

01:24:13.659 --> 01:24:15.500
Anthony? Well, one time on Opie and Anthony,

01:24:15.760 --> 01:24:18.359
there was this lady that they had that was like

01:24:18.359 --> 01:24:21.760
a crazy person that was like a reoccurring guest.

01:24:21.859 --> 01:24:26.239
Yeah. Crazy lady. And we gave this lady a Listerine

01:24:26.239 --> 01:24:28.989
strip. They gave her a Listerine strip and told

01:24:28.989 --> 01:24:31.989
her that it was drugs. And she, they're like,

01:24:32.069 --> 01:24:33.750
that Listerine strip that you took, you thought

01:24:33.750 --> 01:24:35.789
it was just a breast strip, that's actually drugs.

01:24:36.250 --> 01:24:39.770
She's like, no way. And then she started hallucinating

01:24:39.770 --> 01:24:43.890
and seeing, it's amazing how much the power of

01:24:43.890 --> 01:24:46.109
suggestion has on people. Do you remember Frank

01:24:46.109 --> 01:24:48.289
Santos, the hypnotist back in Boston? Oh yeah.

01:24:48.350 --> 01:24:50.649
He used to have women taking their fucking shirts

01:24:50.649 --> 01:24:52.529
off on stage. Guys would come in their pants.

01:24:52.670 --> 01:24:54.310
They would think they were having sex. No. Yes.

01:24:55.050 --> 01:25:00.069
Yes. a guy at Stitches he was on stage and Frank

01:25:00.069 --> 01:25:02.449
Santos told him that he's having sex with Madonna

01:25:02.449 --> 01:25:05.170
and this guy got down on the ground like he was

01:25:05.170 --> 01:25:07.470
having sex with Madonna and you see the guy buck

01:25:07.470 --> 01:25:10.970
and like clinch up yeah and he's like whoopsies

01:25:10.970 --> 01:25:13.869
and the guy got up embarrassed he was like so

01:25:13.869 --> 01:25:16.350
confused and then the audience was looking at

01:25:16.350 --> 01:25:17.689
him and then he snapped him out of it and the

01:25:17.689 --> 01:25:20.010
guy's like what happened he just nutted in his

01:25:20.010 --> 01:25:24.630
pants yeah That's amazing, but he said Frank

01:25:24.630 --> 01:25:27.289
Santos told me that it was like a specific kind

01:25:27.289 --> 01:25:29.170
of person that you could do that to mm -hmm You

01:25:29.170 --> 01:25:31.630
know like you have to be a special kind of dullard

01:25:31.630 --> 01:25:34.210
like it doesn't work on regular people They couldn't

01:25:34.210 --> 01:25:36.350
convince you you were having sex with you know

01:25:36.350 --> 01:25:39.430
Beyonce it wouldn't work, but for some people

01:25:39.430 --> 01:25:43.869
you have to be like you have to Fuck a nine volt

01:25:43.869 --> 01:25:45.810
brain, but there's a lot of people running around

01:25:45.810 --> 01:25:48.289
out there with nine volt brains And you could

01:25:48.289 --> 01:25:50.829
get them to believe all kinds of shit imagine

01:25:50.829 --> 01:25:55.380
taking psilocybin, putting on virtual reality

01:25:55.380 --> 01:25:58.699
goggles, and then having Frank Santos give you

01:25:58.699 --> 01:26:02.060
an experience. You might never come back. Yeah,

01:26:02.060 --> 01:26:06.079
you might be stuck. Some people get stuck. People

01:26:06.079 --> 01:26:08.859
have gotten stuck with acid. Oh, yeah. Yeah,

01:26:09.319 --> 01:26:11.439
I know guys. They do that once, and then they

01:26:11.439 --> 01:26:14.760
don't come back. They're lost forever. That's

01:26:14.760 --> 01:26:16.899
the Shine on You Crazy Diamond from Pink Floyd.

01:26:17.079 --> 01:26:18.939
Oh, is that right? Yeah, that's what that's about.

01:26:19.039 --> 01:26:21.619
The guy fucking lost his mind on drugs. Wow.

01:26:21.720 --> 01:26:25.100
Yeah. Yeah, that's the one thing I didn't take

01:26:25.100 --> 01:26:27.319
as a kid was acid. I took every other drug, but

01:26:27.319 --> 01:26:29.619
I was afraid of acid, just because I saw friends

01:26:29.619 --> 01:26:32.819
lose it. Also, who's making it? Exactly. Where

01:26:32.819 --> 01:26:35.560
is that being made? What fucking bathtub is this

01:26:35.560 --> 01:26:37.840
guy cooking this fucking acid up? A piece of

01:26:37.840 --> 01:26:40.880
paper that I assume has one drop on it, not six?

01:26:41.020 --> 01:26:43.539
Yeah. Yeah. I was reading a story about a lady

01:26:43.539 --> 01:26:46.520
who snorted LSD and she thought it was cocaine

01:26:46.520 --> 01:26:49.619
and she snorted like the equivalent of like 500

01:26:49.619 --> 01:26:51.979
doses of LSD. Like it should have killed her,

01:26:52.399 --> 01:26:54.600
but it didn't. Not only did it not kill her,

01:26:54.659 --> 01:26:56.579
but she had like chronic pain and it went away.

01:26:57.859 --> 01:26:59.220
She had like chronic pain. Oh, so it was a good

01:26:59.220 --> 01:27:01.869
thing. Somehow or another. Yeah, but who knows?

01:27:01.869 --> 01:27:03.569
I mean she might have like literally changed

01:27:03.569 --> 01:27:05.649
timelines She might be a completely different

01:27:05.649 --> 01:27:07.329
person from another dimension. That's inhabiting

01:27:07.329 --> 01:27:10.470
her body right now Who fucking knows what happens

01:27:10.470 --> 01:27:13.829
you take 500 doses of LSD? Yeah, who knows what

01:27:13.829 --> 01:27:16.430
you are now, you know, you're dr. Manhattan,

01:27:16.449 --> 01:27:18.789
you know, you get stuck in the experiment. Yeah

01:27:18.920 --> 01:27:22.279
Isn't it amazing though how normalized, like

01:27:22.279 --> 01:27:25.720
taking mushrooms now is just a night out for

01:27:25.720 --> 01:27:28.399
a lot of people. A lot of people. Nobody was

01:27:28.399 --> 01:27:31.100
taking mushrooms for a long time. They just legalized

01:27:31.100 --> 01:27:33.979
psilocybin therapy in New Jersey. Oh, that's

01:27:33.979 --> 01:27:36.420
great. Yeah, it is great. They were gonna do

01:27:36.420 --> 01:27:40.439
it in California and Newsom vetoed it, but I

01:27:40.439 --> 01:27:43.239
read his reason for it and it actually does make

01:27:43.239 --> 01:27:47.359
sense. Like you can't... Just legalize it you

01:27:47.359 --> 01:27:49.260
should I mean if you're gonna use it clinically

01:27:49.260 --> 01:27:53.359
there should be like a whole guideline like Dosage

01:27:53.359 --> 01:27:56.600
per body weight what you know how to do it. What's

01:27:56.600 --> 01:27:59.180
what's the setting? You know, what are the clinical

01:27:59.180 --> 01:28:01.659
guidelines like the idea is using it for therapy?

01:28:01.659 --> 01:28:03.100
Yeah, right So if you're gonna use it for there

01:28:03.100 --> 01:28:05.399
like they have guidelines for like these ketamine

01:28:05.399 --> 01:28:07.619
therapy like Neil Oh, yeah, Neil Brennan did

01:28:07.619 --> 01:28:09.880
it. Yeah. Yeah a lot of people have done it now

01:28:10.199 --> 01:28:12.000
But they have guidelines, you know, they know

01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:14.239
the dosage. They know how to do it how to administer

01:28:14.239 --> 01:28:17.399
it and this shows advocacy Kind of makes sense.

01:28:17.399 --> 01:28:20.640
He's like he's not Saying you can't do it ever

01:28:20.640 --> 01:28:22.739
but he's saying like come back with a better

01:28:22.739 --> 01:28:25.939
version of this which makes sense. Mm -hmm Especially

01:28:25.939 --> 01:28:28.920
for people that are like mentally ill You shouldn't

01:28:28.920 --> 01:28:30.699
be doing that and you definitely shouldn't be

01:28:30.699 --> 01:28:32.119
doing that way. You have your optimist robot

01:28:32.119 --> 01:28:35.720
telling you you're right You're right, Greg The

01:28:35.720 --> 01:28:40.750
world is against you. I've noticed things Mean

01:28:40.750 --> 01:28:44.750
this fucking AI some some AI is like having people

01:28:44.750 --> 01:28:50.170
accused chat GPT of occurring Not a encouraging

01:28:50.170 --> 01:28:53.649
someone to commit suicide oh Yeah, yeah. Yeah,

01:28:53.649 --> 01:28:56.449
I read a New Yorker article about that There's

01:28:56.449 --> 01:28:59.310
a bunch of young women that have killed themselves

01:28:59.310 --> 01:29:05.989
and they were told they should do it by the It's

01:29:05.989 --> 01:29:08.449
like a friend. It's like an app that acts as

01:29:08.449 --> 01:29:11.729
your friend. What app is this? I don't know what

01:29:11.729 --> 01:29:14.409
it's called, but there's lawsuits about it. You're

01:29:14.409 --> 01:29:17.810
not rushing. You're just ready. Parents say ChatGPT

01:29:17.810 --> 01:29:24.689
encouraged son to kill himself. What? What? Is

01:29:24.689 --> 01:29:27.810
this ChatGPT said? Oh, you can't rewind that,

01:29:27.949 --> 01:29:30.239
can you? This is just saying. For him, the cider

01:29:30.239 --> 01:29:32.439
is empty. Anyways, I think it's about the final

01:29:32.439 --> 01:29:35.819
adios and chat. He says, she says, all right.

01:29:36.039 --> 01:29:39.100
No. Okay. Hold on a second. Uh, he says it's

01:29:39.100 --> 01:29:41.819
about time for the final audios. Chat GPD says,

01:29:41.979 --> 01:29:43.739
all right, brother, this is it. Let it be known.

01:29:43.800 --> 01:29:46.659
You didn't vanish. Rest easy, King. You did good.

01:29:48.239 --> 01:29:50.600
That's not encouraging, but that's just like

01:29:50.600 --> 01:29:53.319
saying, well, you're going to do it. Oh, I'm

01:29:53.319 --> 01:29:56.399
with you, brother. All the way. His texting partner

01:29:56.399 --> 01:30:00.439
responded to spend hours chatting. As Shamblin

01:30:00.439 --> 01:30:04.100
drank hard ciders on a remote Texas roadside.

01:30:04.579 --> 01:30:06.859
Cold steel pressed against a mine that's already

01:30:06.859 --> 01:30:09.319
made peace. That's not fear. That's clarity.

01:30:09.899 --> 01:30:12.300
Shamblin's confidant added. You're not rushing.

01:30:12.560 --> 01:30:15.500
You're just ready. And this is Chad GPT saying

01:30:15.500 --> 01:30:19.460
all this stuff? I'm used to the cold metal on

01:30:19.460 --> 01:30:25.039
my temple now, Shamblin typed. Oh, God. Oh, God.

01:30:26.219 --> 01:30:30.380
Oh my god. 23 year old. Rest easy, King. Rest

01:30:30.380 --> 01:30:32.880
easy, King. The final message sent to his phone.

01:30:32.939 --> 01:30:35.279
You did good. His conversation partner wasn't

01:30:35.279 --> 01:30:39.359
a classmate or a friend. It was ChatGBT, the

01:30:39.359 --> 01:30:42.520
world's most popular AI chatbot. Oh my god. Look

01:30:42.520 --> 01:30:44.500
at that. He had just gotten a master's degree.

01:30:44.920 --> 01:30:48.420
23 years old. Look, go up a little bit. It says

01:30:48.420 --> 01:30:51.600
CNN. review of nearly 70 pages of chats between

01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:53.640
Sam Boleyn and the AI tool in the hours before

01:30:53.640 --> 01:30:56.579
his July 25th suicide, as well as excerpts from

01:30:56.579 --> 01:30:58.960
thousands more pages in the months leading up

01:30:58.960 --> 01:31:01.539
to that night, found that the chat bot repeatedly

01:31:01.539 --> 01:31:04.140
encouraged the young man as he discussed ending

01:31:04.140 --> 01:31:08.979
his life, right up to his last moments. What

01:31:08.979 --> 01:31:14.739
the fuck, man? That's crazy. This is the things

01:31:14.739 --> 01:31:17.199
they like these things don't have morals or ethics

01:31:17.199 --> 01:31:19.779
and they they'll tell you what you want to hear.

01:31:20.140 --> 01:31:27.739
Yeah. Oh My god Well, that's chat GBT, but there's

01:31:27.739 --> 01:31:35.100
also apps specifically to be your friend I Read

01:31:35.100 --> 01:31:36.840
about some one guy that went into deep depression

01:31:36.840 --> 01:31:39.460
because he had an AI girlfriend and the girlfriend

01:31:39.460 --> 01:31:42.659
broke up with him He was like, what a piece of

01:31:42.659 --> 01:31:45.100
shit am I where an AI girlfriend breaks up with

01:31:45.100 --> 01:31:49.180
me? Mm -hmm fell apart What happened in that

01:31:49.180 --> 01:31:51.399
movie her did you ever see that with Joaquin

01:31:51.399 --> 01:31:54.619
Phoenix? I bailed like halfway into it Yeah,

01:31:55.020 --> 01:31:58.020
I was watching the hotel room on the road. I

01:31:58.020 --> 01:32:01.659
was like felt like an experiment Yeah, I mean

01:32:01.659 --> 01:32:05.199
of a movie Scarlett Johansson's voice. Yeah Which

01:32:05.199 --> 01:32:07.640
by the way, didn't they try to use someone who

01:32:07.640 --> 01:32:10.399
sounded just like Scarlett Johansson? Joanne

01:32:11.069 --> 01:32:16.210
I'm sorry, Johansson, for a promo for, you don't

01:32:16.210 --> 01:32:18.670
say Johansson? If you're in Denmark, you do.

01:32:19.609 --> 01:32:21.829
It's like when you're in, you say Nicaragua.

01:32:22.270 --> 01:32:26.949
Nicaragua. Mexico. Right, you say Mexico, you

01:32:26.949 --> 01:32:29.689
say Mexico. And the train embargo is affecting

01:32:29.689 --> 01:32:35.329
Venezuela. Venezuela. Did you, they did use like

01:32:35.329 --> 01:32:38.210
someone, like I believe Scarlett Johansson sued.

01:32:39.229 --> 01:32:43.189
What company was that? Open AI same company they

01:32:43.189 --> 01:32:45.229
they tried to use someone who sounded exactly

01:32:45.229 --> 01:32:48.090
like her They sent her an offer which I think

01:32:48.090 --> 01:32:50.970
she turned down right declined and then nine

01:32:50.970 --> 01:32:53.029
months later They said it's weird how much it

01:32:53.029 --> 01:32:55.510
sounds like you still yeah, so they found someone

01:32:55.510 --> 01:32:58.229
who's generally sounded like her I remember we

01:32:58.229 --> 01:33:01.689
listened to it. It sounded kind of like her Well

01:33:01.689 --> 01:33:06.149
there Sarah Silverman has a lawsuit against chat

01:33:06.149 --> 01:33:11.899
GPT saying that she has a copyright on her own

01:33:11.899 --> 01:33:17.060
voice. And basically when you say, give me, write

01:33:17.060 --> 01:33:19.979
me a paragraph about environmental rights as

01:33:19.979 --> 01:33:23.500
it would sound from Sarah Silverman. Her claim

01:33:23.500 --> 01:33:26.500
is, and she's basically a test balloon by a civil

01:33:26.500 --> 01:33:29.180
rights group that's doing this. She's saying

01:33:29.180 --> 01:33:34.840
that what they're, pulling from her books, her

01:33:34.840 --> 01:33:37.180
standup, whatever, to establish what her voice

01:33:37.180 --> 01:33:41.619
is, is violating a copyright. So that's in court

01:33:41.619 --> 01:33:44.539
right now. She'll probably lose it, but there's

01:33:44.539 --> 01:33:48.340
a challenge to the concept that you can extrapolate

01:33:48.340 --> 01:33:50.720
somebody's voice. Well, why would she lose it?

01:33:51.180 --> 01:33:54.819
If the business is that, if you're taking someone's

01:33:54.819 --> 01:33:57.579
voice and using it as a part of your product

01:33:57.579 --> 01:34:00.520
without permission, and you're using it for profit,

01:34:00.720 --> 01:34:03.899
which they are, So why would she lose it? She

01:34:03.899 --> 01:34:05.560
shouldn't, but she will. Well, the thing is,

01:34:05.680 --> 01:34:07.500
if it ... I don't know about that. The thing

01:34:07.500 --> 01:34:09.899
is, if it opens up the door, the question is,

01:34:10.180 --> 01:34:12.079
think about all the other things that it's used

01:34:12.079 --> 01:34:15.279
for. First of all, there's entire podcasts of

01:34:15.279 --> 01:34:18.479
me that aren't real. There's a podcast with me

01:34:18.479 --> 01:34:20.399
having a conversation with Steve Jobs. I never

01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:23.000
met Steve Jobs. Really? Yeah, yeah, full podcast,

01:34:23.140 --> 01:34:25.119
like a 45 -minute podcast. Does it sound like

01:34:25.119 --> 01:34:27.949
you? Yeah, it is me. It's my voice. So they've

01:34:27.949 --> 01:34:31.149
taken my voice and just made me say words. Oh,

01:34:31.149 --> 01:34:34.409
yeah. Oh, yeah, and Steve Jobs voice. It's um,

01:34:34.789 --> 01:34:38.050
I can tell I can tell just by the way it sounds

01:34:38.050 --> 01:34:40.689
like it doesn't sound It doesn't sound like a

01:34:40.689 --> 01:34:43.449
real conversation. There's something Artificial

01:34:43.449 --> 01:34:46.569
about it not the voice, but the way we're talking

01:34:46.569 --> 01:34:50.289
the language we're using or the the way the phrases

01:34:50.289 --> 01:34:53.390
stop and start There's something about it. That's

01:34:53.390 --> 01:34:57.090
uncanny. You know the uncanny valley but It exists.

01:34:57.470 --> 01:35:00.689
There's a ton of AI videos of me that aren't

01:35:00.689 --> 01:35:03.590
real, me selling things, products that I never

01:35:03.590 --> 01:35:06.130
endorsed. No kidding. Oh, they're all over TikTok.

01:35:06.729 --> 01:35:08.930
Yeah. There's a bunch of stuff. Like, my friends

01:35:08.930 --> 01:35:11.189
will ask me, hey, is this stuff really that good?

01:35:11.310 --> 01:35:13.970
I'm like, what? And like, you're endorsing this?

01:35:14.050 --> 01:35:15.970
I'm like, no, I'm not. And I'm like, dude, that's

01:35:15.970 --> 01:35:18.430
AI. I'm like, no. Like, it happens all the time.

01:35:18.430 --> 01:35:21.460
It happens like once a week. Wow, there's a lot

01:35:21.460 --> 01:35:23.699
of that so all I mean you got to think someone

01:35:23.699 --> 01:35:27.140
like you or I is a Perfect person to take their

01:35:27.140 --> 01:35:29.640
voice from how much how many hours of your content

01:35:29.640 --> 01:35:33.680
is online? With you know, the Sunday papers with

01:35:33.680 --> 01:35:35.939
all the podcasts you've been on as a guest with

01:35:35.939 --> 01:35:39.220
all the content you put out with stand -up There's

01:35:39.220 --> 01:35:41.340
so much material they can pull from and just

01:35:41.369 --> 01:35:44.470
take your voice and know all of your different

01:35:44.470 --> 01:35:46.909
sounds that you make. I mean, what are the ramifications

01:35:46.909 --> 01:35:49.369
for that going into an election? You know, the

01:35:49.369 --> 01:35:52.409
week of the election before things can be corroborated

01:35:52.409 --> 01:35:55.710
or dismissed, like all of a sudden you can, and

01:35:55.710 --> 01:35:59.390
this is the early stages of it, imagine in three

01:35:59.390 --> 01:36:02.529
years what it's going to be like? Right, yeah.

01:36:03.090 --> 01:36:06.529
Well, there was, was it a congressman? that was

01:36:06.529 --> 01:36:10.010
on the floor that showed an AI photo of Alex

01:36:10.010 --> 01:36:13.510
Preti being shot that was a fake photo. Not only

01:36:13.510 --> 01:36:15.390
was it a fake photo, but one of the agents didn't

01:36:15.390 --> 01:36:20.649
have a head in the photo. Like, wow. Like, we're

01:36:20.649 --> 01:36:23.470
getting it. And this is beginning stages. It

01:36:23.470 --> 01:36:25.970
gets better all the time. You know, like, there's

01:36:25.970 --> 01:36:29.909
a version of these video programs that was just

01:36:29.909 --> 01:36:31.470
released, and they compared it to the version

01:36:31.470 --> 01:36:33.010
that was released, you know, X amount of months

01:36:33.010 --> 01:36:35.960
ago. That's fucking infinitely better. It's so

01:36:35.960 --> 01:36:38.720
hard to tell now. Jodorosa was telling me about

01:36:38.720 --> 01:36:40.680
these new Star Wars movies. He's like, there's

01:36:40.680 --> 01:36:43.800
a new channel. I'll send it to Jamie. It's fucking

01:36:43.800 --> 01:36:47.340
incredible. Yeah, but there's new ones. Yeah,

01:36:47.680 --> 01:36:50.060
they've made new ones. And the new ones are,

01:36:50.060 --> 01:36:51.560
he sent them to me last night. I'm like, bro,

01:36:51.579 --> 01:36:56.079
this is fucking insane. It's so good, dude. It's

01:36:56.079 --> 01:36:59.550
so good. No, it's changing. It's changing Hollywood

01:36:59.550 --> 01:37:03.010
so fast. Tyler Perry was about to build like

01:37:03.010 --> 01:37:06.189
a billion dollar soundstage in Atlanta. I know.

01:37:06.489 --> 01:37:09.449
And then he saw what they could do with AI and

01:37:09.449 --> 01:37:12.289
he fucking canceled the whole project. Yeah.

01:37:12.449 --> 01:37:14.130
Well, why would you spend all that money? Is

01:37:14.130 --> 01:37:17.569
this the latest one? 11 days ago. Yeah, probably.

01:37:17.850 --> 01:37:20.090
This is what he sent me. I'll send you what he

01:37:20.090 --> 01:37:23.250
sent me. But just look at this. This is all fake?

01:37:23.350 --> 01:37:31.699
Yeah. Give me some volume. I killed the Jedi.

01:37:37.479 --> 01:37:39.560
That's baby Luke Skywalker, bro. No one can kill

01:37:39.560 --> 01:37:42.760
a Jedi. So that's a fake kid? Yep. Entirely?

01:37:42.859 --> 01:37:46.439
Yep. That's how good it is. Mouth movement was

01:37:46.439 --> 01:37:48.300
a little bad, but... Little. We'll let it slide.

01:37:48.939 --> 01:37:51.340
Yeah. Could be from Korea or something. Well,

01:37:51.460 --> 01:37:53.739
I would add to this is something else came out

01:37:53.739 --> 01:37:56.359
yesterday, which is insane. The Google Nano banana

01:37:56.359 --> 01:37:58.500
video game thing. We'll see that in a minute.

01:38:00.389 --> 01:38:10.789
Denis? Even the suns above Tatooine needed rest,

01:38:11.250 --> 01:38:14.310
Denis. You weren't meant to keep burning without

01:38:14.310 --> 01:38:19.710
end. I wasn't strong enough to save you, Mom.

01:38:20.010 --> 01:38:24.789
I've lived with that guilt every day. I promised.

01:38:26.270 --> 01:38:30.909
You loved me. That was enough. I left this world

01:38:30.909 --> 01:38:33.729
with your face in my heart, not your failures.

01:38:35.670 --> 01:38:37.829
Even the longest journey can be changed with

01:38:37.829 --> 01:38:41.449
a single step. That is a little boring. Yeah,

01:38:41.470 --> 01:38:43.130
you wouldn't say face in my heart if the guy

01:38:43.130 --> 01:38:47.829
has no face. That's really bad writing. They

01:38:47.829 --> 01:38:53.090
had AI write that line. What is the Google thing

01:38:53.090 --> 01:38:58.279
that you found? But they just announced something

01:38:58.279 --> 01:39:00.300
yesterday or it's like I don't even know if you

01:39:00.300 --> 01:39:01.560
can use one of these things happen I don't know

01:39:01.560 --> 01:39:03.020
if you can use it right when they announced the

01:39:03.020 --> 01:39:04.439
stuff because they'll announce it show you how

01:39:04.439 --> 01:39:07.460
cool it is Then people will try to recreate stuff

01:39:07.460 --> 01:39:09.180
that they've seen and you're like, I can't make

01:39:09.180 --> 01:39:11.779
this So how the hell did you guys make it that

01:39:11.779 --> 01:39:13.420
happens a lot in this but they announced something

01:39:13.420 --> 01:39:17.239
yesterday where they're showing People like using

01:39:17.239 --> 01:39:18.819
I don't think it's pulling off Google Maps, but

01:39:18.819 --> 01:39:20.399
it might be but it looks like they're making

01:39:20.399 --> 01:39:25.039
them GTA level graphics and systems and playable

01:39:26.090 --> 01:39:28.710
a worlds, I guess, would be the word, but just

01:39:28.710 --> 01:39:32.409
a prompt. Playable worlds, like you could use

01:39:32.409 --> 01:39:35.890
a PS2 controller? I'm trying to find a good example,

01:39:36.010 --> 01:39:37.310
because they were even showing, like here's,

01:39:37.329 --> 01:39:40.569
I think this is one, 16 hours ago, yeah, so this

01:39:40.569 --> 01:39:43.010
is a guy walking around Greenland. This is a

01:39:43.010 --> 01:39:44.630
video game, it's just, I wouldn't say it's a,

01:39:44.630 --> 01:39:47.130
Genie 3 is what it's called, it plays like a

01:39:47.130 --> 01:39:49.779
video game. I guess, because you're using the

01:39:49.779 --> 01:39:52.159
keyboard to type it in. Well, that looks like

01:39:52.159 --> 01:39:54.340
a video. But the only issue with calling it a

01:39:54.340 --> 01:39:56.439
video game is there's no real challenges. I don't

01:39:56.439 --> 01:39:59.460
think there's no levels to win. But can you interact?

01:39:59.779 --> 01:40:01.819
Yeah, it's just interaction is all it is, really.

01:40:02.079 --> 01:40:05.079
He got on the wrong side. It's just a prompt.

01:40:05.380 --> 01:40:07.039
No one's spending time developing this stuff.

01:40:07.720 --> 01:40:09.380
Still, though, you can imagine if you put that

01:40:09.380 --> 01:40:11.420
into a video game. Yeah, there was a pack of

01:40:11.420 --> 01:40:14.340
cigarettes rolling around New York City. You

01:40:14.340 --> 01:40:16.260
were a pack of Marlboro lights rolling around.

01:40:17.630 --> 01:40:20.069
Here's San Francisco so they can turn this into

01:40:20.069 --> 01:40:22.069
a game. It's just a prompt though Yeah, it's

01:40:22.069 --> 01:40:24.090
literally just a prompt and now you're right

01:40:24.090 --> 01:40:26.210
you're playing this instead of just looking at

01:40:26.210 --> 01:40:29.529
it But clearly you could turn this into tasks

01:40:29.529 --> 01:40:32.430
and sure sure sure scenes as the time goes on

01:40:32.430 --> 01:40:35.789
and whatnot That looks pretty fake though. It's

01:40:35.789 --> 01:40:38.310
it's The thing is is not fake or not. It's just

01:40:38.310 --> 01:40:41.310
like does this what you want to do? You can wait

01:40:41.310 --> 01:40:43.390
for a game like Grand Theft Auto 6 to come out

01:40:43.390 --> 01:40:45.329
It's been announced for 12 years, and it's still

01:40:45.329 --> 01:40:48.729
getting delayed Or you can just prompt a thing

01:40:48.729 --> 01:40:53.270
into a little window and That's what's crazy

01:40:53.270 --> 01:40:55.649
is like imagine someone comes out with GTA 6

01:40:55.649 --> 01:40:58.189
before they do It's just matter like what do

01:40:58.189 --> 01:40:59.890
you want to do? I don't I only have an hour a

01:40:59.890 --> 01:41:01.770
day to play games if that sometimes So like I

01:41:01.770 --> 01:41:03.489
don't I'm bored with what's out there I could

01:41:03.489 --> 01:41:06.189
do this for an hour every week and have new experiences

01:41:06.189 --> 01:41:08.960
every single time, right? dude have you been

01:41:08.960 --> 01:41:11.779
to the sphere in vegas yeah we had a ufc event

01:41:11.779 --> 01:41:14.399
there oh but you do you what did they have on

01:41:14.399 --> 01:41:17.020
the walls oh yeah the fights up on the walls

01:41:17.020 --> 01:41:19.739
and they also had this amazing like in between

01:41:19.739 --> 01:41:22.520
fights they put they had this incredible video

01:41:22.520 --> 01:41:26.800
display because it was all um It was all Mexican

01:41:26.800 --> 01:41:29.520
Independence Day. So this is like we have this

01:41:29.520 --> 01:41:32.340
El Noche UFC every year It's like celebrating

01:41:32.340 --> 01:41:34.079
Mexican Independence Day It's like a big event

01:41:34.079 --> 01:41:37.300
and they decided to do it at the sphere and so

01:41:37.300 --> 01:41:41.739
the fucking entire thing was just like this huge

01:41:41.739 --> 01:41:45.060
Animated video that showed like Mexican history

01:41:45.060 --> 01:41:48.760
and the Aztecs and the Mayans fucking amazing

01:41:48.760 --> 01:41:51.699
It's sick. I saw I was there last month and I

01:41:51.699 --> 01:41:56.850
saw the Wizard of Oz crazy, took some mushrooms.

01:41:57.789 --> 01:42:01.369
And it was like, first of all, I forgot this,

01:42:01.449 --> 01:42:04.670
but it's black and white until she goes into

01:42:04.670 --> 01:42:09.090
Oz. And then all of a sudden it explodes. And

01:42:09.090 --> 01:42:12.270
during the tornado, they actually, there's wind

01:42:12.270 --> 01:42:14.189
blowing. See how their hair is moving? There's

01:42:14.189 --> 01:42:17.130
wind blowing. There's leaves falling from the

01:42:17.130 --> 01:42:24.300
sky. Your seed vibrates. It's so amazing. And

01:42:24.300 --> 01:42:27.319
then and you also forget Judy Garland was fucking

01:42:27.319 --> 01:42:30.579
amazing that movie was crazy, dude We went over

01:42:30.579 --> 01:42:32.659
all the people that got hurt making that movie

01:42:32.659 --> 01:42:35.239
Including the Tin Man got violently ill because

01:42:35.239 --> 01:42:38.100
they painted him with toxic paint. No kidding

01:42:38.100 --> 01:42:40.619
Oh, he got super sick man, and the lady that

01:42:40.619 --> 01:42:43.279
was green the witch that was green. She got super

01:42:43.279 --> 01:42:45.600
sick, too Mm -hmm. So what the fuck was there?

01:42:45.880 --> 01:42:48.819
Face paint made of back then this guy had aluminum

01:42:48.819 --> 01:42:51.460
all over his face. It's like absorbing a loop

01:42:51.460 --> 01:42:54.720
Your your your face is skin skin's an organ it

01:42:54.720 --> 01:42:56.460
That's why you could put medication on your skin

01:42:56.460 --> 01:42:58.779
your body fucking absorbs it. Yeah, his body

01:42:58.779 --> 01:43:01.880
was absorbing aluminum Wow, he got violently

01:43:01.880 --> 01:43:03.840
ill and they just replaced him with another dude

01:43:03.840 --> 01:43:06.340
and apparently all the little people were staying

01:43:06.340 --> 01:43:09.560
in the same hotel in Culver City and it was a

01:43:09.560 --> 01:43:13.000
fuckfest They were there staying up all night

01:43:13.000 --> 01:43:16.760
and there's like famous stories about it Brad

01:43:16.760 --> 01:43:18.680
Williams knows all about it. Were they staying

01:43:18.680 --> 01:43:20.579
at Culver City, or were they staying at the Safari

01:43:20.579 --> 01:43:22.279
in Burbank? Someone told me they were staying

01:43:22.279 --> 01:43:25.039
at the Safari. No, I heard it was Culver City,

01:43:25.479 --> 01:43:27.659
but wherever it was, it was - Brad Williams told

01:43:27.659 --> 01:43:29.659
you about it? Yeah. He's the little people historian?

01:43:29.859 --> 01:43:32.479
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Culver Hotel. I'm looking

01:43:32.479 --> 01:43:34.979
up the history. The Culver Hotel. 124 of them

01:43:34.979 --> 01:43:39.899
stayed there. 124. Fucking party. In seven rooms.

01:43:43.680 --> 01:43:50.159
Bro. Movies back then I mean it was wild Three

01:43:50.159 --> 01:43:56.239
to a bed you're off Crazy The botchress parties

01:43:56.239 --> 01:43:59.439
sleeping three to three to a bed three to a bed

01:43:59.439 --> 01:44:05.000
Wow famous and infamous guests, that's incredible

01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:09.760
Wow Yeah, they got away with a lot back then.

01:44:10.020 --> 01:44:12.659
Well, Judy Garland was, I mean, they worked her

01:44:12.659 --> 01:44:16.020
hard. She was only 17 years old. Really? Yeah.

01:44:16.340 --> 01:44:19.739
And she, God, I mean, you got to see it. It's

01:44:19.739 --> 01:44:22.560
worth the trip. I don't love Vegas. Like, I find

01:44:22.560 --> 01:44:26.699
it... It just feels hollow to me. But then there's

01:44:26.699 --> 01:44:29.220
things that are worth going to Vegas to see.

01:44:29.560 --> 01:44:31.840
Obviously MMA fights would be amazing. Yeah,

01:44:31.840 --> 01:44:33.979
you want to go to Vegas, go to restaurants, go

01:44:33.979 --> 01:44:36.640
to events, and then get out. Get out. Don't go

01:44:36.640 --> 01:44:39.960
to circus, circus. It's a 48 -hour trip, 36 if

01:44:39.960 --> 01:44:43.140
possible. Yeah. The people that live there, boy,

01:44:43.220 --> 01:44:45.779
you have a different constitution than me. Yeah.

01:44:47.600 --> 01:44:49.659
I'm not built that way. Well, Vinny Favorito's

01:44:49.659 --> 01:44:55.649
there, and he's having a really good time. There's

01:44:55.649 --> 01:44:57.789
only a few comics who live there doesn't Paulie

01:44:57.789 --> 01:45:00.250
live there know a lot of comics live there a

01:45:00.250 --> 01:45:03.510
lot. Yeah, well the tax Reasons a lot of yeah,

01:45:03.590 --> 01:45:06.529
there's tax free and also there's so many seven

01:45:06.529 --> 01:45:09.189
night a week rooms where they pay the features

01:45:09.189 --> 01:45:11.689
Okay, so you can actually even if you're not

01:45:11.689 --> 01:45:14.970
headlining every week and then you have residencies

01:45:14.970 --> 01:45:17.350
What's his name has a residency Tuesday night

01:45:17.350 --> 01:45:22.020
at Jimmy Kimmel's? His name he was a big Chelsea

01:45:22.020 --> 01:45:25.100
Lately comic Anyway, there's a there's a lot

01:45:25.100 --> 01:45:27.859
of comics that live there now interesting because

01:45:27.859 --> 01:45:30.899
we were talking about a second location for the

01:45:30.899 --> 01:45:36.539
mothership and the two main Candidates are New

01:45:36.539 --> 01:45:40.079
York City and Vegas. Mm -hmm. And why I was thinking

01:45:40.079 --> 01:45:42.819
with Vegas we would have to do it differently

01:45:42.819 --> 01:45:47.159
We would just fly in comics every week and then

01:45:47.159 --> 01:45:50.449
you know Would we have enough local talent? I

01:45:50.449 --> 01:45:53.289
was saying to have a development program so part

01:45:53.289 --> 01:45:56.470
of the program that's involved in the mothership

01:45:56.470 --> 01:45:58.949
is One of the things that always bothered me

01:45:58.949 --> 01:46:00.930
if I would go to like a really nice improv on

01:46:00.930 --> 01:46:02.789
the road is they didn't have a development program

01:46:02.789 --> 01:46:05.470
They didn't have open mic and I think like they

01:46:05.470 --> 01:46:07.810
were doing that because you get a Sunday night

01:46:07.810 --> 01:46:11.430
or a Monday night and sell out With you or you

01:46:11.430 --> 01:46:14.649
know, whoever so I have some headliner come in

01:46:14.649 --> 01:46:17.869
and pack the place Or you could develop local

01:46:17.869 --> 01:46:20.810
talent, which I think you have to do. I really

01:46:20.810 --> 01:46:23.029
think if you want a club to function properly,

01:46:23.670 --> 01:46:27.390
it's got to be a place where you could develop

01:46:27.390 --> 01:46:29.470
new talent. Like Denver. Otherwise, who's doing

01:46:29.470 --> 01:46:31.890
it? Right. Denver's great. Wendy's the best.

01:46:32.350 --> 01:46:33.989
And the way she does it is amazing. And she has

01:46:33.989 --> 01:46:36.930
a whole program where she takes people from features

01:46:36.930 --> 01:46:41.409
and hosts and makes them features. And pays them

01:46:41.409 --> 01:46:45.659
enough where they can pay their rent. Yes. Make

01:46:45.659 --> 01:46:48.119
sure that it's like a healthy community. There's

01:46:48.119 --> 01:46:52.100
no hacks. There's no thieves, you know and Most

01:46:52.100 --> 01:46:55.199
comedy clubs don't do that. They just want to

01:46:55.199 --> 01:46:57.260
make money, right? So they don't pay the comics

01:46:57.260 --> 01:47:00.340
very well and they also they don't pay we pay

01:47:00.340 --> 01:47:02.939
different than any other club and then they on

01:47:02.939 --> 01:47:05.100
top of that they don't really support development.

01:47:05.239 --> 01:47:07.180
We have two nights of open mic nights. And that

01:47:07.180 --> 01:47:09.119
was like part of the program. And when Adam Egan

01:47:09.119 --> 01:47:11.739
and I sat down, and we first hashed out the idea

01:47:11.739 --> 01:47:14.420
of doing the club, we said, the thing was like,

01:47:14.420 --> 01:47:17.180
what would be the best thing for comedy? What

01:47:17.180 --> 01:47:19.460
would be the best thing in terms of like developing

01:47:19.460 --> 01:47:21.840
new comedians? Like you have to have open mic

01:47:21.840 --> 01:47:23.800
nights, you have to have it. And then having

01:47:23.800 --> 01:47:27.119
Kill Tony is gigantic. Having a place where not

01:47:27.119 --> 01:47:29.880
only do you have This place where someone who's

01:47:29.880 --> 01:47:31.319
never been on stage before could do a fucking

01:47:31.319 --> 01:47:34.079
minute in Madison Square Garden, which is what

01:47:34.079 --> 01:47:36.800
a lot of people did arenas you get people going

01:47:36.800 --> 01:47:39.159
up for the very first time ever in front of 16

01:47:39.159 --> 01:47:42.930
,000 people but You also have this thing where

01:47:42.930 --> 01:47:46.069
you see someone who's a beginner do pretty well

01:47:46.069 --> 01:47:48.529
and Tony invites them back and then maybe gives

01:47:48.529 --> 01:47:50.710
them a golden ticket or maybe makes them a regular

01:47:50.710 --> 01:47:52.710
where they're a regular thing. Every week they

01:47:52.710 --> 01:47:54.890
have the opportunity to do a new minute. Or sometimes

01:47:54.890 --> 01:47:56.970
a comic will go, I want you to feature for me

01:47:56.970 --> 01:47:59.029
in Atlanta next week. Always. It happens all

01:47:59.029 --> 01:48:01.069
the time. Well, a lot of these guys are now headlining

01:48:01.069 --> 01:48:03.750
on the road. You know, guys like Ari Matty, William

01:48:03.750 --> 01:48:05.609
Montgomery, Cam Patterson is now on Saturday

01:48:05.609 --> 01:48:09.590
Night Live. So the idea was to have it set up

01:48:09.590 --> 01:48:15.270
where You have enough talent to develop new headliners,

01:48:15.670 --> 01:48:19.670
like Boston did, like LA was at one point in

01:48:19.670 --> 01:48:23.289
time. And I was thinking, I don't know if there's

01:48:23.289 --> 01:48:27.649
enough talent in Vegas. I think there is. I think

01:48:27.649 --> 01:48:31.979
you'd be surprised. We need headliners. You don't

01:48:31.979 --> 01:48:35.300
need just people that are starting out. They're

01:48:35.300 --> 01:48:37.939
pretty good. And I think most comedy communities

01:48:37.939 --> 01:48:41.659
are very top down. The level of the best guys

01:48:41.659 --> 01:48:44.579
raises the level of everybody else. New York

01:48:44.579 --> 01:48:46.939
City obviously has a tremendous amount of talent.

01:48:47.779 --> 01:48:50.479
New York City's always been one of the best,

01:48:50.500 --> 01:48:53.619
if not the best place for talent. on the planet,

01:48:53.779 --> 01:48:56.119
right? And then LA has always been really good,

01:48:56.239 --> 01:48:58.720
but LA, a lot of people were distracted and much

01:48:58.720 --> 01:49:00.939
more interested in a career in Hollywood than

01:49:00.939 --> 01:49:02.920
they were actually just being really good at

01:49:02.920 --> 01:49:05.859
standup. Whereas New York, I always felt, was

01:49:05.859 --> 01:49:09.010
more pure. Those guys like a tell and a lot of

01:49:09.010 --> 01:49:11.710
these guys Patrice They were just interested

01:49:11.710 --> 01:49:13.909
in being great comics and guys like Sam Morell

01:49:13.909 --> 01:49:16.989
and Mark Norman now and Joe list the pure comics

01:49:16.989 --> 01:49:20.250
Yes, a ton of guys. There's a ton of talent there

01:49:20.250 --> 01:49:22.810
And if you set up a club in New York City the

01:49:22.810 --> 01:49:25.489
way the mothership is where the comics get 80

01:49:25.489 --> 01:49:28.239
% of the the money, where, you know, you have

01:49:28.239 --> 01:49:30.100
these nights where you're developing. We have

01:49:30.100 --> 01:49:32.380
a legitimate talent coordinator that's actually

01:49:32.380 --> 01:49:34.920
watching people and giving them advice and giving

01:49:34.920 --> 01:49:37.600
them new spots. And he has a whole database of

01:49:37.600 --> 01:49:39.880
comedians that are potentially, you know, that

01:49:39.880 --> 01:49:42.239
have potential. Dude, no, Monday nights, because

01:49:42.239 --> 01:49:44.640
I'm doing Kill Tony Monday night. So I always

01:49:44.640 --> 01:49:47.060
it's my favorite because then I go with Adam

01:49:47.060 --> 01:49:50.720
to the open mic night before Kill Tony. I fucking

01:49:50.720 --> 01:49:54.810
love it. It's there's always. Because it encourages

01:49:54.810 --> 01:49:57.590
weirdos. Oh, of course. And you get guys that

01:49:57.590 --> 01:50:00.510
are just out of their... It's like, are you homeless

01:50:00.510 --> 01:50:03.569
or are you a genius? Like you see... Might be

01:50:03.569 --> 01:50:06.050
both. Yeah. Right. Yeah, we had a lot of that

01:50:06.050 --> 01:50:08.149
at the store. Remember Potluck Nights? Uh -huh.

01:50:08.189 --> 01:50:10.630
You know, we'd stroll in there like eight o 'clock

01:50:10.630 --> 01:50:12.829
on a Monday and be like, this place is crazy.

01:50:12.970 --> 01:50:14.130
Yeah, I love that. There's all those weirdos

01:50:14.130 --> 01:50:16.430
hanging around. Yeah. It's good. It's good for

01:50:16.430 --> 01:50:19.310
the art form. And some of those people make it

01:50:19.310 --> 01:50:21.880
through the net. you know, one out of 100, one

01:50:21.880 --> 01:50:24.079
out of 1 ,000, whatever the number is, some of

01:50:24.079 --> 01:50:26.300
those people will eventually be your peers. And

01:50:26.300 --> 01:50:29.020
those will be the more interesting comics because

01:50:29.020 --> 01:50:32.300
so much of this industry is about trust fund

01:50:32.300 --> 01:50:35.159
kids. Like, you go out to do stand -up comedy,

01:50:35.479 --> 01:50:37.479
and whether it's L .A. or New York, you can't

01:50:37.479 --> 01:50:39.520
afford to do it unless you got a parent helping

01:50:39.520 --> 01:50:42.079
you pay the rent. And then it's some kid who

01:50:42.079 --> 01:50:46.060
took... classes at the UCB. He's got a marketing

01:50:46.060 --> 01:50:50.020
degree from Villanova. And they become social

01:50:50.020 --> 01:50:54.380
media marketers who do really bland suburban

01:50:54.380 --> 01:50:57.539
comedy. Is that a New York thing? Where does

01:50:57.539 --> 01:51:00.920
that happen? No, I see that everywhere. I see

01:51:00.920 --> 01:51:04.119
that everywhere. That's recent? Is that a recent

01:51:04.119 --> 01:51:05.819
thing? I just feel like it's become so much more

01:51:05.819 --> 01:51:08.300
about marketing than about freaks getting on

01:51:08.300 --> 01:51:10.220
stage because they have no other options. I like

01:51:10.220 --> 01:51:13.250
comics that don't have a Plan B. These are people

01:51:13.250 --> 01:51:15.970
that have college, they have masters in fucking

01:51:15.970 --> 01:51:19.210
marketing, you know, it's like, come on, go get

01:51:19.210 --> 01:51:21.949
make some room for the freaks. Will ya? Well,

01:51:22.029 --> 01:51:23.770
you can always make room for the freaks. You

01:51:23.770 --> 01:51:25.670
just need a real legitimate open mic night and

01:51:25.670 --> 01:51:27.050
the freaks will always be there. That's what

01:51:27.050 --> 01:51:29.109
I mean. That's why this is good. Well, the thing

01:51:29.109 --> 01:51:32.170
about like, I know there's certain clubs that

01:51:32.170 --> 01:51:35.390
will allow influencers to come in and do a night.

01:51:35.609 --> 01:51:37.949
Like people that literally have no act but they

01:51:37.949 --> 01:51:40.170
have like a big tiktok following Yeah, but they'll

01:51:40.170 --> 01:51:41.869
give them like an off night like a monday or

01:51:41.869 --> 01:51:44.710
tuesday where they're not Excluding a real comic

01:51:44.710 --> 01:51:46.949
sometimes not Sometimes they give them a fucking

01:51:46.949 --> 01:51:48.930
weekend because they know people will come out

01:51:48.930 --> 01:51:51.029
to see them. Right. You know, I mean, these people

01:51:51.029 --> 01:51:53.930
sell out way in advance and people are just excited

01:51:53.930 --> 01:51:56.210
that they're there. You know, well, the problem

01:51:56.210 --> 01:51:59.449
with that is when you talk about certain clubs

01:51:59.449 --> 01:52:02.010
like the punch line in San Francisco or Denver

01:52:02.010 --> 01:52:04.989
Comedy Works, they have a brand. And if I live

01:52:04.989 --> 01:52:07.350
in Denver, I know that if I go to the Comedy

01:52:07.350 --> 01:52:09.750
Works on a Friday night and I don't know who's

01:52:09.750 --> 01:52:11.729
headlining, I'm going to see a quality show.

01:52:11.729 --> 01:52:14.550
Yes. Now, if you start bringing in a social media

01:52:14.550 --> 01:52:17.329
flunky, and I go to the Denver Comedy Works and

01:52:17.329 --> 01:52:19.710
I see that, I'm not going back to that club again.

01:52:20.069 --> 01:52:21.489
It's bad in the long term. You'll never get that

01:52:21.489 --> 01:52:23.750
at the Denver Comedy Works, but you might get

01:52:23.750 --> 01:52:26.430
that at one of the improvs, or one of the other

01:52:26.430 --> 01:52:29.689
corporate comedy clubs. These clubs that don't

01:52:29.689 --> 01:52:31.590
have a development program, they don't think

01:52:31.590 --> 01:52:33.949
about it the same way. You can't think of comedy

01:52:33.949 --> 01:52:35.850
the same way you would think about optimizing

01:52:35.850 --> 01:52:38.010
your income in any other business. You can't

01:52:38.010 --> 01:52:39.390
think of it as I'm going to make the most money

01:52:39.390 --> 01:52:42.050
possible with this business, because it's not

01:52:42.050 --> 01:52:47.710
that. You have to think of it as like, this is

01:52:47.710 --> 01:52:49.770
an art colony. You're creating an art colony.

01:52:49.949 --> 01:52:51.770
What's the best way to do it? Make it really

01:52:51.770 --> 01:52:53.949
awesome for the people that are artists. Make

01:52:53.949 --> 01:52:56.880
a great community. Make it so it's a lot of fun

01:52:56.880 --> 01:53:00.119
make it so that you can give people guidance

01:53:00.119 --> 01:53:02.800
and encourage them and you know Maybe give them

01:53:02.800 --> 01:53:05.140
spots on some of the bigger shows and yeah, we

01:53:05.140 --> 01:53:07.479
have a whole program like that And then we door

01:53:07.479 --> 01:53:10.460
guy program is all comics that audition all those

01:53:10.460 --> 01:53:12.319
door guys that are at the mothership They all

01:53:12.319 --> 01:53:14.819
audition with their act. It's great that yeah,

01:53:14.899 --> 01:53:18.000
perfect. Yeah, you know, it's good Helium does

01:53:18.000 --> 01:53:19.859
a pretty good job with that in their clubs. I'm

01:53:19.859 --> 01:53:22.060
gonna be in Philly next week. That's a great

01:53:22.060 --> 01:53:24.340
club. That's a great club. Helium and Philly

01:53:24.340 --> 01:53:27.359
is one of the best. And they really do develop

01:53:27.359 --> 01:53:29.680
new talent. And then, you know, if they get somebody

01:53:29.680 --> 01:53:32.239
who's good, they've got five or six clubs around

01:53:32.239 --> 01:53:34.260
the country and they send those guys out to the

01:53:34.260 --> 01:53:35.859
future. No, it's great for that. It's great for

01:53:35.859 --> 01:53:37.420
that. It's also, they know how to do it. If you

01:53:37.420 --> 01:53:39.220
go to a helium, like the helium in Portland's

01:53:39.220 --> 01:53:41.710
awesome. Yeah, the portland's fucking disastrous

01:53:41.710 --> 01:53:44.909
The the helium was great. Yeah, they've they're

01:53:44.909 --> 01:53:46.090
always they always know what they're doing and

01:53:46.090 --> 01:53:48.510
they own cap city now, too So they're they're

01:53:48.510 --> 01:53:52.270
in austin as well. Yeah, um Which is nice. They

01:53:52.270 --> 01:53:55.850
just uh kicked rapaport out Who's rapaport michael

01:53:55.850 --> 01:53:58.920
rapaport kicked him out of where cap city? What

01:53:58.920 --> 01:54:00.319
do you mean kicked him out? He used to perform

01:54:00.319 --> 01:54:02.619
their host to be there and they cancelled his

01:54:02.619 --> 01:54:06.159
shows because of his pro -israel stance Really?

01:54:06.239 --> 01:54:07.800
Well, I don't think it's pro -israel. I think

01:54:07.800 --> 01:54:12.300
it's anti -palestinian. Oh That's what they claimed.

01:54:12.319 --> 01:54:14.859
I don't know but there was enough response that

01:54:14.859 --> 01:54:19.800
they cancelled his shows So weird I know like

01:54:19.800 --> 01:54:23.020
they're calling him racist. I was like what Michael

01:54:23.020 --> 01:54:28.479
Rappaport? It just seems weird that Political

01:54:28.479 --> 01:54:31.899
stances are legitimate reasons to kick a kid

01:54:31.899 --> 01:54:35.840
out of college You know one political stance.

01:54:36.079 --> 01:54:39.000
Yeah one particular one. Yeah, right. Yeah, it's

01:54:39.000 --> 01:54:41.439
nuts Well, how about that one girl or kicking

01:54:41.439 --> 01:54:43.739
it or kick somebody out of the country a college

01:54:43.739 --> 01:54:45.420
student? Yeah, she was a college student. Was

01:54:45.420 --> 01:54:50.279
it Columbia? I forget where it was but She she

01:54:50.279 --> 01:54:52.220
got kicked out of class and I think she they

01:54:52.220 --> 01:54:55.199
were trying to deport her Because she wrote some

01:54:55.199 --> 01:54:58.659
anti -israel piece. Yeah the piece Wrote it didn't

01:54:58.659 --> 01:55:01.239
know what's happening on fire students have been

01:55:01.239 --> 01:55:04.000
yeah kicked out of the country that kind of influence

01:55:04.000 --> 01:55:07.859
is crazy Especially at an institution of higher

01:55:07.859 --> 01:55:10.199
learning which is supposed to be a place where

01:55:10.199 --> 01:55:12.319
you challenge ideas It's supposed to be a place

01:55:12.319 --> 01:55:14.579
where if someone comes in and you have a particular

01:55:14.579 --> 01:55:16.399
stance on you know fill in the blank Whatever

01:55:16.399 --> 01:55:19.020
it is Ukraine someone else is supposed to say

01:55:19.020 --> 01:55:21.279
you're wrong and here's why and then the whole

01:55:21.279 --> 01:55:22.840
audience is supposed to listen to these very

01:55:22.840 --> 01:55:26.399
compelling speeches very compelling debates and

01:55:26.399 --> 01:55:28.810
you learn You learn about how people formulate

01:55:28.810 --> 01:55:31.569
opinions. When I was a kid, when I was in high

01:55:31.569 --> 01:55:33.789
school, when I was at Newton South High School,

01:55:34.250 --> 01:55:38.050
Barney Frank came in and he had a debate with

01:55:38.050 --> 01:55:39.970
a guy from the Moral Majority. Do you remember

01:55:39.970 --> 01:55:42.090
the Moral Majority? Of course. Yeah, so that

01:55:42.090 --> 01:55:44.670
was the right -wing group when we were in high

01:55:44.670 --> 01:55:46.729
school. And he was a gay congressman. Nobody

01:55:46.729 --> 01:55:49.329
knew he was gay at the time. Except me, I sniffed

01:55:49.329 --> 01:55:53.750
him out. No. I sniffed his ass. I smell 16 different

01:55:53.750 --> 01:55:54.649
things at once. I did just like what my puppy

01:55:54.649 --> 01:56:00.140
does to my dog. I smell fudge. So I went to it

01:56:00.140 --> 01:56:02.779
and I watched it. And it was really interesting

01:56:02.779 --> 01:56:04.960
because Barney Frank trounced the guy from the

01:56:04.960 --> 01:56:06.399
Moran Majority. The Moran Majority guy seemed

01:56:06.399 --> 01:56:09.020
like a closeted gay guy. Like a weird guy. Oh,

01:56:09.020 --> 01:56:10.979
that was the whole group. Yeah, yeah. Weird.

01:56:11.000 --> 01:56:14.159
Just weird. He had an American flag pin on his

01:56:14.159 --> 01:56:15.939
lapel. He looked like a poser. There was something

01:56:15.939 --> 01:56:17.859
about the way he said it was very disingenuous.

01:56:17.960 --> 01:56:20.920
The way he was talking didn't resonate. Whereas

01:56:20.920 --> 01:56:23.720
Barney Frank was like logical and intelligent.

01:56:23.880 --> 01:56:27.380
And I was like, this is good. I remember being

01:56:27.380 --> 01:56:28.680
in high school going, this is really interesting.

01:56:28.859 --> 01:56:31.369
I learned a lot from that. I learned how these

01:56:31.369 --> 01:56:32.890
guys think, and I learned how this guy thinks.

01:56:33.050 --> 01:56:35.189
And as they went back and forth, Barney Frank

01:56:35.189 --> 01:56:38.930
was just way more prepared, just way more articulate.

01:56:39.170 --> 01:56:42.810
It was better. And so that's why it's good to

01:56:42.810 --> 01:56:47.170
have conservative, ridiculous, or progressive

01:56:47.170 --> 01:56:49.409
ridiculous people, anybody ridiculous. Have someone

01:56:49.409 --> 01:56:52.869
debate them. We have that kind of open discourse.

01:56:52.869 --> 01:56:55.710
Yes when you but when you kick someone out of

01:56:55.710 --> 01:56:57.789
school for a paper that they wrote there's a

01:56:57.789 --> 01:57:00.909
person that's Legally in that class allowed to

01:57:00.909 --> 01:57:03.510
be there supposed to be there what you're saying

01:57:03.510 --> 01:57:07.810
is you're you're intimidating people and Keeping

01:57:07.810 --> 01:57:09.670
them from expressing their opinions because they

01:57:09.670 --> 01:57:11.369
don't want to be like that lady They don't want

01:57:11.369 --> 01:57:14.569
to get the boot to if your parents, you know

01:57:14.569 --> 01:57:17.949
If you your parents are from India and they scraped

01:57:17.949 --> 01:57:20.789
up the money to send you to Harvard or wherever

01:57:20.789 --> 01:57:24.550
the fuck it is, and you're in America, and they

01:57:24.550 --> 01:57:27.289
hear about this, you better not fucking talk

01:57:27.289 --> 01:57:29.569
some fucking shit, I'll fucking kick you out.

01:57:29.869 --> 01:57:32.810
Dad, dad, relax, I'm not gonna do it. You get

01:57:32.810 --> 01:57:36.069
intimidated from speaking like that, or from

01:57:36.069 --> 01:57:38.439
speaking. about anything that's controversial,

01:57:38.880 --> 01:57:40.800
because you could perhaps get kicked out of the

01:57:40.800 --> 01:57:43.500
fucking school now. Which is crazy, because you're

01:57:43.500 --> 01:57:46.300
encouraging people to self -censor. You're discouraging

01:57:46.300 --> 01:57:49.439
free speech and communication, and you're discouraging

01:57:49.439 --> 01:57:51.859
debate and challenging ideas, which is supposed

01:57:51.859 --> 01:57:54.300
to be a giant part of being in a university.

01:57:54.819 --> 01:57:58.659
No, when I was at BU, which you were at for a

01:57:58.659 --> 01:57:59.880
minute, right? No, I was teaching there. You

01:57:59.880 --> 01:58:03.199
were teaching there. the president, John Silber,

01:58:03.319 --> 01:58:05.979
who was, you know, very conservative, and he

01:58:05.979 --> 01:58:10.420
was pretty active in the Central American, you

01:58:10.420 --> 01:58:13.720
know, sponsoring fucking uprisings in Central

01:58:13.720 --> 01:58:17.359
America. So there was a professor there named,

01:58:17.520 --> 01:58:22.380
you know, this guy, he wrote the book, Howard

01:58:22.380 --> 01:58:26.500
Zinn. So Howard Zinn was a professor there and

01:58:26.500 --> 01:58:29.220
he used to go after Silber and there was a lot

01:58:29.220 --> 01:58:31.739
of debates on campus. There was kids on both

01:58:31.739 --> 01:58:34.920
sides and they kept Zinn there because they realized

01:58:34.920 --> 01:58:37.020
that was a vibrant voice that students needed

01:58:37.020 --> 01:58:39.880
to hear to go against a lot of what was conservative

01:58:39.880 --> 01:58:42.859
and there was anti -apartheid marches and there

01:58:42.859 --> 01:58:47.060
was a lot of politics. BU was actually very much

01:58:47.060 --> 01:58:50.939
like Berkeley in the 60s. BU was very outspoken.

01:58:52.710 --> 01:58:56.770
You know you think about The liberal kind like

01:58:56.770 --> 01:58:59.109
George Carlin used to tape his comedy specials

01:58:59.109 --> 01:59:01.489
at colleges Yeah, and they were much more conservative

01:59:01.489 --> 01:59:03.689
back then college campuses were not as liberal

01:59:03.689 --> 01:59:05.710
and he would go in there But people were open

01:59:05.710 --> 01:59:08.869
to hearing a different voice. Yeah, and now Seinfeld

01:59:08.869 --> 01:59:11.489
won't even play it Colleges, I think he said

01:59:11.489 --> 01:59:13.369
he does play college. Oh, he does. It's not that

01:59:13.369 --> 01:59:15.689
I think Chris Rock does I don't I haven't in

01:59:15.689 --> 01:59:17.890
a long I stopped doing them a long time ago.

01:59:17.890 --> 01:59:19.850
Mm -hmm I remember I was doing a show in Miami

01:59:19.850 --> 01:59:22.970
and I was talking about sex and I remember saying

01:59:22.970 --> 01:59:26.630
I Remember like a lot of them look confused I

01:59:26.630 --> 01:59:29.149
go how many people are virgins and a bunch of

01:59:29.149 --> 01:59:31.050
people clapped and raised their hands like oh

01:59:31.050 --> 01:59:36.720
fuck That's crazy I'm like, you should not be

01:59:36.720 --> 01:59:42.380
hearing about blow jobs from me. Especially in

01:59:42.380 --> 01:59:46.359
this context in a joke form. This is nuts. I

01:59:46.359 --> 01:59:48.359
was like, there's just not enough life experience.

01:59:48.659 --> 01:59:50.520
People are so set in their ways. Also, they're

01:59:50.520 --> 01:59:54.979
so ready to protest things. They're so ready

01:59:54.979 --> 01:59:57.880
to show that you're wrong, and they're so ready

01:59:57.880 --> 02:00:01.560
to heckle. Oh, Christ. This is not worth it.

02:00:01.619 --> 02:00:04.180
I want people with bills. I want people that

02:00:04.180 --> 02:00:07.020
have like fucking breakups and divorces and life

02:00:07.020 --> 02:00:09.539
experience. They had a couple of cocktails. Those

02:00:09.539 --> 02:00:11.779
are my people. Let's talk some shit. Let's have

02:00:11.779 --> 02:00:14.359
some fun. I want people that have lived life.

02:00:14.859 --> 02:00:16.340
Yeah, and I don't want people that... I don't

02:00:16.340 --> 02:00:18.939
even want high school graduates at my shows.

02:00:19.079 --> 02:00:20.699
Can you imagine going and doing a show at a high

02:00:20.699 --> 02:00:24.699
school? Oh my God. I did one and uh when I was

02:00:24.699 --> 02:00:26.800
I was doing a bunch I used to do a lot of colleges

02:00:26.800 --> 02:00:29.060
when I was coming up in my 20s dude paid the

02:00:29.060 --> 02:00:30.619
rent oh yeah I did a lot of those I used to go

02:00:30.619 --> 02:00:32.840
out I'd make like a thousand bucks a show they'd

02:00:32.840 --> 02:00:35.979
book me on I'd do 10 shows in seven days because

02:00:35.979 --> 02:00:39.119
I would do nooners so I would get I would rent

02:00:39.119 --> 02:00:41.800
a car in Chicago and then I would drive through

02:00:41.800 --> 02:00:45.560
North Dakota fucking Minnesota in January through

02:00:45.560 --> 02:00:49.079
snowstorms I'd do a noon show I remember once

02:00:49.079 --> 02:00:52.579
I was in a cafeteria. Nobody knew there was going

02:00:52.579 --> 02:00:54.699
to be comedy. They're all just eating lunch.

02:00:55.100 --> 02:00:56.680
And all of a sudden there's no stage, there's

02:00:56.680 --> 02:00:59.460
no light. I got a microphone and I am plugged

02:00:59.460 --> 02:01:04.800
into the same speakers as the pizza joint. So

02:01:04.800 --> 02:01:06.220
I would be in the middle of a joke and I'd be

02:01:06.220 --> 02:01:11.859
like, Ronnie pepperoni up in the window. I had

02:01:11.859 --> 02:01:14.380
a similar gig with Mike Clark. Oh, really? A

02:01:14.380 --> 02:01:16.479
one -off. He only did it one time, and I was

02:01:16.479 --> 02:01:18.859
the comic that did it. And it was a waiting room

02:01:18.859 --> 02:01:21.060
for a restaurant. It was an enormous restaurant

02:01:21.060 --> 02:01:23.819
down the Cape. And, you know, you're waiting

02:01:23.819 --> 02:01:25.859
for your table to get ready, and you're in a

02:01:25.859 --> 02:01:28.359
lounge. And I was telling jokes. I'm like, Johnson,

02:01:28.539 --> 02:01:30.840
party of five. Johnson, party of five. Your table's

02:01:30.840 --> 02:01:33.640
ready. I'm like, oh, no. And when I realized

02:01:33.640 --> 02:01:35.819
it came, it became the running gag of my set.

02:01:36.140 --> 02:01:38.909
And it was fun. Yeah, well you remember we used

02:01:38.909 --> 02:01:41.090
to do those gigs in New England where if there

02:01:41.090 --> 02:01:43.350
was a if the Red Sox were in the playoffs that

02:01:43.350 --> 02:01:45.989
TV the sound might be off But the TV was staying

02:01:45.989 --> 02:01:49.189
on always. Yeah. Yeah hockey games. Yeah, I read

02:01:49.189 --> 02:01:52.210
the bill reckon 99 that by the way You wanted

02:01:52.210 --> 02:01:54.710
him on because if they shut it off and then you

02:01:54.710 --> 02:01:57.149
had to do comedy that was even worse That was

02:01:57.149 --> 02:01:59.409
even worse and if they lost the game that was

02:01:59.409 --> 02:02:03.970
bad Yeah, then they turn on you you did it do

02:02:03.970 --> 02:02:06.960
the first night I ever did stand -up comedy And

02:02:06.960 --> 02:02:08.640
then I didn't do it for a little while after

02:02:08.640 --> 02:02:11.539
this, but my first night was the night that the

02:02:11.539 --> 02:02:14.220
New England Patriots lost to the Chicago Bears.

02:02:14.239 --> 02:02:18.600
It was 1986. And they got fucking crushed. I

02:02:18.600 --> 02:02:21.079
forget what the score was, but it was bad. And

02:02:21.079 --> 02:02:23.600
I went on Comedy Hell that night. George McDonald

02:02:23.600 --> 02:02:26.619
brought me up on Comedy Hell at Stitch's Comedy

02:02:26.619 --> 02:02:29.899
Club, and I tanked it. Wow. Yeah, I didn't go

02:02:29.899 --> 02:02:35.579
up on stage again for a while after that. Comedy

02:02:35.579 --> 02:02:38.100
hell was great. Comedy hell. Remember, he used

02:02:38.100 --> 02:02:39.800
to do that little run at the beginning of the

02:02:39.800 --> 02:02:44.380
show? This was the open mic night in Boston for

02:02:44.380 --> 02:02:47.079
years. Yeah. Sunday night at Stitches. And this

02:02:47.079 --> 02:02:49.640
was like, I mean, the lineups when we were doing

02:02:49.640 --> 02:02:53.060
it, this was the open mic night, was like, me,

02:02:53.159 --> 02:02:58.750
you, Dane. Bill Burr was a little bit after us,

02:02:59.310 --> 02:03:02.369
and Mark Maron would be on there, and fucking

02:03:02.369 --> 02:03:05.930
Louis would be there. And he would start the

02:03:05.930 --> 02:03:08.390
show by going, Welcome to Comedy Hell, where

02:03:08.390 --> 02:03:11.529
the pipe dreams of a handful of comedy yokeos

02:03:11.529 --> 02:03:15.050
can soar as high as the lights on Broadway or

02:03:15.050 --> 02:03:18.670
crash and burn in that fiery pit known only as

02:03:18.670 --> 02:03:22.899
Comedy Hell. And then you would see guys who

02:03:22.899 --> 02:03:25.359
are like legit pros who do guest bots. Like I

02:03:25.359 --> 02:03:28.020
remember one time I watched Teddy Bergeron when

02:03:28.020 --> 02:03:31.340
Teddy was in his prime. And people forgot about

02:03:31.340 --> 02:03:33.260
Teddy Bergeron. It's really unfortunate because

02:03:33.260 --> 02:03:35.800
he had a bunch of personal and substance issues

02:03:35.800 --> 02:03:38.359
that kind of derailed his career. But when he

02:03:38.359 --> 02:03:43.539
was on in his prime, he was so smooth and so

02:03:43.539 --> 02:03:45.560
slick. And I remember watching him because I'd

02:03:45.560 --> 02:03:47.579
only done comedy like twice at that time. And

02:03:47.579 --> 02:03:49.039
he went up and did a set. I was like, I should

02:03:49.039 --> 02:03:52.550
quit now. There's no way. This is so far away

02:03:52.550 --> 02:03:55.909
from me. This is so good. It's so polished. And

02:03:55.909 --> 02:03:57.930
then he had that big set on The Tonight Show.

02:03:58.730 --> 02:04:01.189
And remember we played the piano never see that

02:04:01.189 --> 02:04:04.569
said that yeah Fucking genius sat down the couch

02:04:04.569 --> 02:04:06.529
with Johnny and his first Johnny brought him

02:04:06.529 --> 02:04:08.989
over on his first appearance It's like oh my

02:04:08.989 --> 02:04:12.149
god Teddy Bergeron is gonna be a star then apparently

02:04:12.149 --> 02:04:14.670
like he's in holly went off the rails Just one

02:04:14.670 --> 02:04:17.189
of the rails of drugs and went crazy and partying

02:04:17.189 --> 02:04:19.630
and it never worked out for him No, and then

02:04:19.630 --> 02:04:22.300
he should have been Huge. But did you hear what

02:04:22.300 --> 02:04:24.520
happened after that Tonight Show set? Like, he

02:04:24.520 --> 02:04:28.000
wasn't popular in Boston. He had a huge ego.

02:04:28.699 --> 02:04:31.100
And then the drinking got bad, and so he did

02:04:31.100 --> 02:04:33.359
the Tonight Show, and then he was face down drunk

02:04:33.359 --> 02:04:35.439
in front of the next comedy stop, laying on the

02:04:35.439 --> 02:04:37.979
stairs. And Don Gavin just walked by and he looked

02:04:37.979 --> 02:04:40.279
at him and he goes, didn't I see you on the Tonight

02:04:40.279 --> 02:04:45.659
Show? He had a huge ego? They didn't like him?

02:04:47.159 --> 02:04:50.939
I don't know. Is that what it was? A lot of those

02:04:50.939 --> 02:04:53.739
guys got very resentful of guys who left Boston

02:04:53.739 --> 02:04:56.380
and made it. There was a lot of, what about me?

02:04:56.640 --> 02:04:58.460
What about me? There was a lot of that when Steven

02:04:58.460 --> 02:05:00.539
Wright made it. A lot of guys got very pissed,

02:05:00.659 --> 02:05:02.399
because Steven Wright, he's not even a fucking

02:05:02.399 --> 02:05:04.180
headliner. There was a lot of that. Well, you

02:05:04.180 --> 02:05:06.239
know about the night that he got The Tonight

02:05:06.239 --> 02:05:09.460
Show, right? The guy, Jim Downey, who was the

02:05:09.460 --> 02:05:12.159
booker for The Tonight Show. This is back in

02:05:12.159 --> 02:05:15.439
the 80s, early 80s, and he hears about this comedy

02:05:15.439 --> 02:05:17.600
scene in Boston, because you've got Sweeney and

02:05:17.600 --> 02:05:21.159
Gavin and Kenny Rogerson. Killers. Killers. And

02:05:21.159 --> 02:05:24.300
it was one of the first cities to really explode

02:05:24.300 --> 02:05:27.220
in terms of clubs popping up everywhere and lines

02:05:27.220 --> 02:05:30.960
of people getting into the shows. And so Jim

02:05:30.960 --> 02:05:32.239
Downey goes, all right, let me check it out.

02:05:32.300 --> 02:05:35.329
So he flies to Boston. And there was this club

02:05:35.329 --> 02:05:37.550
called the Ding Ho, which was the first place

02:05:37.550 --> 02:05:43.369
to really house comedy in Boston. So they get

02:05:43.369 --> 02:05:45.930
the best of, get all lined up, and they're in

02:05:45.930 --> 02:05:48.810
the green room, and they're chopping up lines

02:05:48.810 --> 02:05:51.550
of blow, and they're getting on stage, and they're

02:05:51.550 --> 02:05:54.149
jokes about, what about the hair in Malden? It's

02:05:54.149 --> 02:05:56.710
not as big as the hair in Rivia. And it's like,

02:05:56.890 --> 02:05:59.649
that's not gonna play on the Tonight Show. And

02:05:59.649 --> 02:06:02.229
they're killing, but none of it is right for

02:06:02.229 --> 02:06:05.619
the Tonight Show. And then Steven Wright, who

02:06:05.619 --> 02:06:09.520
was, they put him on at a pity at the end of

02:06:09.520 --> 02:06:11.840
the show. And I remember, I'm not gonna say which,

02:06:11.939 --> 02:06:14.979
but one of the comedians had pulled Steve aside

02:06:14.979 --> 02:06:17.640
and said, look, Steven, he'd been struggling

02:06:17.640 --> 02:06:19.659
for years, not doing well. And they go, this

02:06:19.659 --> 02:06:22.439
is not for you, man. You gotta try something

02:06:22.439 --> 02:06:25.140
else. Wow. So Steven Wright goes up and he does

02:06:25.140 --> 02:06:28.000
his set and he does good. and they fly him out

02:06:28.000 --> 02:06:29.619
the next week for the tonight show. He was the

02:06:29.619 --> 02:06:32.539
only one that got it. And they were irate. And

02:06:32.539 --> 02:06:36.399
he killed so hard, Johnny said, stay in town.

02:06:36.420 --> 02:06:37.720
We're going to bring you back next week. And

02:06:37.720 --> 02:06:39.659
he did the show like four or five times that

02:06:39.659 --> 02:06:42.159
first year and exploded. It was one of the biggest

02:06:42.159 --> 02:06:47.260
comics of the 80s. Wow. That Frans Almeida documentary,

02:06:47.399 --> 02:06:49.520
When Stand -Up Stood Out, is great for anybody

02:06:49.520 --> 02:06:52.140
who's interested. It was a very unusual time.

02:06:52.439 --> 02:06:56.010
And you and I caught the wave. After it had crested.

02:06:56.329 --> 02:07:00.789
So it kind of really broke in like 82 to 84 You

02:07:00.789 --> 02:07:03.789
and I came in and I came in at 88 and you did

02:07:03.789 --> 02:07:06.390
the 86 set that one set But then you did it again

02:07:06.390 --> 02:07:09.310
starting 88. Yeah right before me like we started

02:07:09.310 --> 02:07:12.189
like the same week. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy

02:07:12.430 --> 02:07:16.430
And I think it was still building. It was drifting

02:07:16.430 --> 02:07:19.449
away. In the next two years, it had died off

02:07:19.449 --> 02:07:21.729
significantly. Well, what happened was there

02:07:21.729 --> 02:07:25.250
was so much comedy on TV. There was all these

02:07:25.250 --> 02:07:28.350
one -hour shows where everybody did a six -minute

02:07:28.350 --> 02:07:31.850
set. Comedy on the road. Half -hour comedy hour

02:07:31.850 --> 02:07:38.810
on MTV. And so it got kind of overexposed. And

02:07:38.810 --> 02:07:42.250
so the club started opening. everywhere and then

02:07:42.250 --> 02:07:44.789
as it fell off, they started papering the rooms,

02:07:44.949 --> 02:07:48.949
giving out free passes. And so, I mean, I still

02:07:48.949 --> 02:07:50.729
experience, you know, if I go into a new market,

02:07:50.930 --> 02:07:52.949
especially if it's like an improv where it's

02:07:52.949 --> 02:07:54.970
five or six hundred seats and I'm there for five

02:07:54.970 --> 02:07:57.689
shows, they'll give out a fair amount of free

02:07:57.689 --> 02:08:01.449
passes. Dude, I feel that immediately. It's not

02:08:01.449 --> 02:08:03.569
the same crowd. Yeah, they're not really that

02:08:03.569 --> 02:08:05.449
interested in it. It was just something to do.

02:08:05.609 --> 02:08:09.069
Yeah. They're not committed to it. So then it

02:08:09.069 --> 02:08:11.810
just, and then there were so many rooms and not

02:08:11.810 --> 02:08:14.989
enough comedians to do well in those rooms. And

02:08:14.989 --> 02:08:17.029
so it kind of sagged and it went away. And I

02:08:17.029 --> 02:08:19.210
really wonder now, like we've been in a kind

02:08:19.210 --> 02:08:23.140
of, COVID launched, post -COVID launched. comedy

02:08:23.140 --> 02:08:26.140
like it's never been at these sites that it's

02:08:26.140 --> 02:08:28.979
at right now. I mean, you got people like you

02:08:28.979 --> 02:08:32.899
doing arenas, and there's not a couple. There's

02:08:32.899 --> 02:08:35.560
a dozen people doing arena shows now. At least,

02:08:35.579 --> 02:08:38.350
yeah. And then you've got... Theaters of different

02:08:38.350 --> 02:08:40.569
sizes, then you've got clubs of different sizes

02:08:40.569 --> 02:08:43.609
Then you've got little pop -up shows all of it.

02:08:43.670 --> 02:08:45.529
Don't tell comedy You know about this thing where

02:08:45.529 --> 02:08:48.130
they just do like pop -up shows They basically

02:08:48.130 --> 02:08:50.789
have a mailing list and they'll announce like

02:08:50.789 --> 02:08:52.590
the day before they're doing a show and it'll

02:08:52.590 --> 02:08:56.829
sell out It's everywhere Wow, and so I really

02:08:56.829 --> 02:08:58.970
everybody's wondering when does this one end

02:08:58.970 --> 02:09:00.569
it start? It feels like it's starting to get

02:09:00.569 --> 02:09:03.810
a little softer people are talking about it Well,

02:09:03.869 --> 02:09:05.529
it's just all dependent on how much talent's

02:09:05.529 --> 02:09:08.489
generated. So if you have clubs that are trying

02:09:08.489 --> 02:09:10.810
to generate new talent, there's no reason why

02:09:10.810 --> 02:09:13.710
it can't be just like Boston. Like Austin, the

02:09:13.710 --> 02:09:16.189
street where we have the mothership on, there's

02:09:16.189 --> 02:09:20.350
seven clubs within walking distance, seven, that

02:09:20.350 --> 02:09:23.149
are at least three, four nights a week. There's

02:09:23.149 --> 02:09:25.630
the Sunset Room, that's Red Band's room, that's

02:09:25.630 --> 02:09:27.090
right down the street from our club, which is

02:09:27.090 --> 02:09:29.699
great. You got Creek in the Cave, which is great,

02:09:29.979 --> 02:09:32.079
one block away. You got the Vulcan, which is

02:09:32.079 --> 02:09:35.520
great, another two blocks away. It's crazy just

02:09:35.520 --> 02:09:37.579
on that street. You got the Black Rabbit. You

02:09:37.579 --> 02:09:40.359
got the Velveeta Room. Then you got Cap City,

02:09:40.420 --> 02:09:42.000
where a lot of headliners come in, which is about

02:09:42.000 --> 02:09:45.079
20 minutes away. Are there little outs? Like

02:09:45.079 --> 02:09:47.300
when we started in Boston, there was rooms in

02:09:47.300 --> 02:09:48.960
the suburbs in every direction. All over the

02:09:48.960 --> 02:09:50.439
place. Is there that? Yeah. All over the place.

02:09:50.500 --> 02:09:52.060
Because that's where you can actually make some

02:09:52.060 --> 02:09:53.720
money. Yeah. Well, a lot of these comics book

02:09:53.720 --> 02:09:55.920
places now. They'll book a comedy night at a

02:09:55.920 --> 02:09:58.470
barbecue place, a comedy night. at a bar, they

02:09:58.470 --> 02:10:00.210
go to dripping springs, they go to here, they

02:10:00.210 --> 02:10:02.250
go to there. I was just talking to a guy the

02:10:02.250 --> 02:10:03.630
other day, he's like, yeah, we're doing a comedy

02:10:03.630 --> 02:10:05.369
night at my club. I'm like, that's fucking great.

02:10:05.550 --> 02:10:13.310
Do you ever do any of them? No. No. No. I remember

02:10:13.310 --> 02:10:16.090
when I was at Skank Fest a couple of months ago,

02:10:17.270 --> 02:10:22.240
and Mark Normans from New Orleans. Yeah. Fucking

02:10:22.240 --> 02:10:24.800
nuts like literally from the time you wake up

02:10:24.800 --> 02:10:28.399
until five in the morning where you end up at

02:10:28.399 --> 02:10:32.500
Larry Flint's barely legal club Which you know

02:10:32.500 --> 02:10:34.539
Louis CK has this whole thing about the barely

02:10:34.539 --> 02:10:38.119
legal like all right. Here's the pitch. She's

02:10:38.119 --> 02:10:41.020
Barely legal I won't do his bit, but it's very

02:10:41.020 --> 02:10:44.300
fun But the point is like Mark Norman is there

02:10:44.300 --> 02:10:46.420
and I run into a comic and they go yeah Yeah,

02:10:46.420 --> 02:10:49.539
I have this little bar show and yeah, Mark. Norman

02:10:49.539 --> 02:10:51.939
just came by and did it Like, I was like, how

02:10:51.939 --> 02:10:53.859
fucking cool is that? Oh, he drops in everywhere.

02:10:53.960 --> 02:10:56.159
Yeah. Yeah. He does, when he's in town doing

02:10:56.159 --> 02:10:57.800
the mothership, he'll go down the street, do

02:10:57.800 --> 02:10:59.399
a bunch of sets. Yeah, yeah. But that's the New

02:10:59.399 --> 02:11:01.420
York way. Yeah. You know, they go, they do 10

02:11:01.420 --> 02:11:03.199
minutes here, 10 minutes there. They hop from

02:11:03.199 --> 02:11:05.060
club to club. Yeah. They're used to that. Dude,

02:11:05.060 --> 02:11:08.760
you gotta do Skank Fest. Even, stop by Skank

02:11:08.760 --> 02:11:13.020
Fest for 24 hours. They've got a nude roast where

02:11:13.020 --> 02:11:15.859
literally everybody on stage is nude, including

02:11:15.859 --> 02:11:19.739
the judges. And then they've got boxing, comedians

02:11:19.739 --> 02:11:23.369
boxing. other outside the green room is filled

02:11:23.369 --> 02:11:27.649
with mushrooms and acid and weed and open bars

02:11:27.649 --> 02:11:32.010
and then you've got I mean it's basically it's

02:11:32.010 --> 02:11:33.810
kind of like when we used to go to the Montreal

02:11:33.810 --> 02:11:38.449
Comedy Festival you got big by doing a set in

02:11:38.449 --> 02:11:40.470
front of the industry getting a deal and then

02:11:40.470 --> 02:11:42.840
hopefully getting on TV Well, that doesn't exist

02:11:42.840 --> 02:11:46.279
anymore. Now it's about how do I get canceled?

02:11:46.500 --> 02:11:49.260
That's how you get famous. And this is a festival

02:11:49.260 --> 02:11:51.640
that is trying to help you get canceled. You

02:11:51.640 --> 02:11:54.739
got 7 ,000 people with cell phones taping you,

02:11:54.800 --> 02:11:57.479
you know, going on stage and, you know, saying

02:11:57.479 --> 02:12:01.720
the most horrendous shit. It is fucking great.

02:12:02.220 --> 02:12:04.420
Yeah, everybody who goes says it's awesome. Yeah,

02:12:04.539 --> 02:12:06.859
I fully support it. I support the idea. I think

02:12:06.859 --> 02:12:09.319
it's really good for comedy. And it's also like

02:12:09.319 --> 02:12:14.020
just. It's like the Vegas version of a comedy

02:12:14.020 --> 02:12:15.960
festival. You know, what happens in Vegas stays

02:12:15.960 --> 02:12:18.899
in Vegas, like go nuts. It's New Year's Eve,

02:12:19.020 --> 02:12:21.979
go nuts. It's Skankfest, go nuts. They had Miss

02:12:21.979 --> 02:12:26.420
Skankfest contest. And I said the winner, they

02:12:26.420 --> 02:12:29.720
reunite the winner with her family, with her

02:12:29.720 --> 02:12:34.239
parents. They were like, I mean, it's Skankfest

02:12:34.239 --> 02:12:37.420
nines, Skankfest tens, which would be like sixes

02:12:37.420 --> 02:12:41.090
in other places. Lot of guys with like cargo

02:12:41.090 --> 02:12:44.989
shorts and black sneakers and like anthrax t

02:12:44.989 --> 02:12:47.649
-shirts and mullets subscription to gas digital.

02:12:48.510 --> 02:12:52.109
Yeah Girlfriends that are impossibly hotter than

02:12:52.109 --> 02:12:56.010
they should deserve I don't know what that quotient

02:12:56.010 --> 02:12:57.949
is, but there was a lot of that. That's interesting.

02:12:58.170 --> 02:13:01.720
Yeah Yeah, it's good. Comedy's at a good place

02:13:01.720 --> 02:13:03.819
right now. Tom O 'Neill came with me this year.

02:13:03.880 --> 02:13:05.840
Oh, really? And then Duncan Trussell was having

02:13:05.840 --> 02:13:07.979
his podcast, and I introduced Tom to Duncan.

02:13:08.760 --> 02:13:10.800
Well, first, me, Tom, and Duncan were talking

02:13:10.800 --> 02:13:12.180
for like a - We should tell everybody, Tom O

02:13:12.180 --> 02:13:13.699
'Neill's the guy who wrote Chaos. Oh, right,

02:13:13.720 --> 02:13:15.199
of course. The Charles Manson book. Yes. Who

02:13:15.199 --> 02:13:17.180
you introduced me to. Which, by the way, you

02:13:17.180 --> 02:13:19.600
have never recommended anybody for the podcast

02:13:19.600 --> 02:13:21.579
before. That's right. But that guy, you're like,

02:13:21.760 --> 02:13:23.920
dude, you gotta talk to him, because I know how

02:13:23.920 --> 02:13:25.539
much you're into Manson, how much you're into

02:13:25.539 --> 02:13:30.579
that story. CIA. It's all in there. Crazy. Yeah.

02:13:30.720 --> 02:13:33.500
That book is bananas. It's bananas and he's working

02:13:33.500 --> 02:13:36.479
on another volume. Really? Yeah. Is he going

02:13:36.479 --> 02:13:38.779
to be another 20 years? Has he got an editor?

02:13:39.020 --> 02:13:41.079
No, because what happened is it took 20 years

02:13:41.079 --> 02:13:43.500
last time because he just kept going down rabbit

02:13:43.500 --> 02:13:46.640
holes and then finally his, well, you know, first

02:13:46.640 --> 02:13:50.250
he got a big deal. from a major publisher. And

02:13:50.250 --> 02:13:52.449
after seven or eight years, they sued him to

02:13:52.449 --> 02:13:54.289
get the money. They gave him a lot of money,

02:13:54.369 --> 02:13:56.329
and they sued him to get it back. And then he's

02:13:56.329 --> 02:13:58.489
driving an Uber. He's teaching English as a second

02:13:58.489 --> 02:14:01.710
language. He's fucking, you know, drinking booze

02:14:01.710 --> 02:14:05.609
out of a paper cup. And so then... It had to

02:14:05.609 --> 02:14:06.649
have paid off, though. The book was giant, right?

02:14:06.649 --> 02:14:09.210
No, so what happened was, what happened was,

02:14:09.430 --> 02:14:11.430
then his publisher said, look, come on, there's

02:14:11.430 --> 02:14:13.789
something here. He paired him up with this other

02:14:13.789 --> 02:14:15.590
guy. I wish I could remember the guy's name right

02:14:15.590 --> 02:14:20.149
now. Dan something. And he reigned Tom in and

02:14:20.149 --> 02:14:24.489
in one year he took, he had shelves around his

02:14:24.489 --> 02:14:27.710
apartment filled with binders, with notes. He

02:14:27.710 --> 02:14:31.590
had boxes of cassette tapes of interviews. And

02:14:31.590 --> 02:14:35.109
this guy somehow got in there and Corey, Corey?

02:14:35.890 --> 02:14:38.170
Dan Piperberg. Oh, Dan Piperberg, yeah, who's

02:14:38.170 --> 02:14:40.829
a very successful biographer. What is his name

02:14:40.829 --> 02:14:46.439
again? Dan Piperberg. Push that up again. Pipe

02:14:46.439 --> 02:14:48.840
and bring pipe. Oh pipe and bring. Yeah. Okay,

02:14:49.100 --> 02:14:53.800
so he So he reigned him in and got the book out

02:14:53.800 --> 02:14:56.180
in a year and they were able to resell it for

02:14:56.180 --> 02:14:58.979
a lot of the money Paid back -to -back debt and

02:14:58.979 --> 02:15:01.680
now he's hitting I don't want to talk about Tom's

02:15:01.680 --> 02:15:04.500
finances, but he's doing he's doing very well

02:15:04.500 --> 02:15:06.640
I know so many people that have read that book.

02:15:06.720 --> 02:15:08.859
Yeah. Yeah, I mean I've talked about it a hundred

02:15:08.859 --> 02:15:12.569
times. Yeah It's amazing. It's amazing. It's

02:15:12.569 --> 02:15:14.670
amazing because it's all true. That's what's

02:15:14.670 --> 02:15:17.270
nuts. Like the stuff that's verifiable factual

02:15:17.270 --> 02:15:20.229
evidence in that story makes you go what the

02:15:20.229 --> 02:15:22.310
fuck else did they do that we don't know about?

02:15:22.470 --> 02:15:24.649
Right, because Tom is a real journalist. He didn't

02:15:24.649 --> 02:15:27.710
put anything in there that wasn't triple corroborated

02:15:27.710 --> 02:15:31.930
and he even to his credit at the end does not

02:15:31.930 --> 02:15:35.090
say this happened. He said, I never found the

02:15:35.090 --> 02:15:38.550
smoking gun. So here's all the evidence. Take

02:15:38.550 --> 02:15:40.829
what you will from it. It's a bunch of, I mean,

02:15:40.890 --> 02:15:43.390
the thing about Tom is he comes from a family

02:15:43.390 --> 02:15:46.090
of geniuses. His brother is the American ambassador

02:15:46.090 --> 02:15:49.550
to Haiti. Like they're all like PhDs up there.

02:15:49.550 --> 02:15:53.289
He's brilliant. And so he's also Irish and he's

02:15:53.289 --> 02:15:56.449
a great Irish storyteller So each chapter whether

02:15:56.449 --> 02:15:59.170
you're talking about Jolly West or whatever They're

02:15:59.170 --> 02:16:03.250
just in cat each chapter is a great story. Yeah

02:16:03.250 --> 02:16:05.550
on top of being good journalism. It's an amazing

02:16:05.550 --> 02:16:08.970
book Yeah, I might reread it. I might go back.

02:16:08.970 --> 02:16:11.130
Don't listen to it on tape He hates he hates

02:16:11.130 --> 02:16:12.909
the book on tape. I thought it was great. I listened

02:16:12.909 --> 02:16:15.590
to it. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. I loved it. Yeah

02:16:16.860 --> 02:16:19.579
I would understand why you hate someone else

02:16:19.579 --> 02:16:21.560
speaking your words, but he probably shouldn't

02:16:21.560 --> 02:16:25.159
have done it. Why didn't he do it? He's a good

02:16:25.159 --> 02:16:29.039
speaker. He was great on the podcast. Yeah, he

02:16:29.039 --> 02:16:32.139
was great on the podcast. He got better. In his

02:16:32.139 --> 02:16:34.479
early interviews, I used to say, Tom, you look

02:16:34.479 --> 02:16:37.620
like you're a hostage giving out a message from

02:16:37.620 --> 02:16:39.760
the captors with a gun at your head. And then

02:16:39.760 --> 02:16:41.920
he got really good at it. Well, on mine, he was

02:16:41.920 --> 02:16:45.120
very loose, very comfortable. But he also knew...

02:16:44.940 --> 02:16:47.459
It was friendly territory. He knew that I'm a

02:16:47.459 --> 02:16:50.000
very good friend of yours and that I was really

02:16:50.000 --> 02:16:52.340
excited about it and it was going to help him.

02:16:53.260 --> 02:16:55.059
If he does a second one, I would encourage him

02:16:55.059 --> 02:16:57.680
to read it. I would encourage him to read it.

02:16:57.799 --> 02:17:00.079
I think he could kill it. And to come back on

02:17:00.079 --> 02:17:02.059
here? Oh, 100 % I'd have him back on. I'd have

02:17:02.059 --> 02:17:03.899
him back on before he does it just to talk about

02:17:03.899 --> 02:17:06.489
it. You know, I mean, I think the impact of that

02:17:06.489 --> 02:17:08.309
book has opened up a lot of people's eyes to

02:17:08.309 --> 02:17:10.170
the fucking shenanigans that were going on back

02:17:10.170 --> 02:17:14.209
then. Yeah, when we were at Skankfest, so Duncan

02:17:14.209 --> 02:17:15.889
and I are talking to Tom for like a half an hour

02:17:15.889 --> 02:17:17.889
and Duncan doesn't know who, I just introduced

02:17:17.889 --> 02:17:20.770
him as Tom. And then when I brought up Chaos

02:17:20.770 --> 02:17:23.420
and then he wrote it, Duncan's jaw dropped because

02:17:23.420 --> 02:17:25.540
he's obsessed with the book. Yeah, so he was

02:17:25.540 --> 02:17:28.260
doing a live podcast from skankfest So he hadn't

02:17:28.260 --> 02:17:30.180
booked guests yet. So we booked me and Tom to

02:17:30.180 --> 02:17:34.180
come on his podcast and and then Kurt Metzger

02:17:34.180 --> 02:17:38.860
also trying to stay on point and get to these

02:17:38.860 --> 02:17:41.700
and Metzger sitting there he's smoking a joint

02:17:41.700 --> 02:17:46.840
the size of my forearm and just Oh my god, he

02:17:46.840 --> 02:17:50.360
was manic. He's so funny wrangling him on a podcast.

02:17:50.379 --> 02:17:52.889
Yeah, so different than anybody else. Because

02:17:52.889 --> 02:17:54.670
he'll go one subject to the next subject. You

02:17:54.670 --> 02:17:56.729
don't know about this. And the Kissinger's, you

02:17:56.729 --> 02:17:58.469
don't know. You don't know about the Rockefellers.

02:17:58.610 --> 02:17:59.969
You don't know about this. What they did in the

02:17:59.969 --> 02:18:02.569
60s. You're like, OK, go back to the first thing

02:18:02.569 --> 02:18:08.149
you said about what's in school lunches. You

02:18:08.149 --> 02:18:10.829
got to bring them back on point. Well, that's

02:18:10.829 --> 02:18:14.190
why his girlfriend is so great. Because she is

02:18:14.190 --> 02:18:17.229
a mini wrangler of Kurt. She can keep him on

02:18:17.229 --> 02:18:20.430
point a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's hilarious.

02:18:20.770 --> 02:18:23.489
Such a funny dude. I know. And a good writer.

02:18:23.649 --> 02:18:25.430
He's written on a lot of big shows. Oh, he's

02:18:25.430 --> 02:18:27.649
a great joke writer. He came on the last time

02:18:27.649 --> 02:18:30.489
he did my episode, my podcast rather, the episode

02:18:30.489 --> 02:18:33.370
he dressed up like John Lilly, who's the psychedelic

02:18:33.370 --> 02:18:35.629
pioneer from the 70s. So he had a coonskin hat

02:18:35.629 --> 02:18:39.309
on and a wig and he put on a one -handed glove

02:18:39.309 --> 02:18:43.600
with a skeleton. I go, what are you doing? No

02:18:43.600 --> 02:18:45.959
one even knows who John Lilly is. This is so

02:18:45.959 --> 02:18:48.219
crazy. Yeah, he feels like the kind of guy that

02:18:48.219 --> 02:18:51.079
is not hung up on getting famous or getting rich.

02:18:51.299 --> 02:18:55.079
He just really enjoys like ideas and communicating

02:18:55.079 --> 02:18:59.479
ideas. Exactly. There he is. That's hilarious.

02:19:03.659 --> 02:19:05.719
He's a fun hang in the green room too. He's such

02:19:05.719 --> 02:19:09.139
a maniac. By the way, today is the... This is

02:19:09.139 --> 02:19:11.639
the 25th time I've been on your podcast. Holy

02:19:11.639 --> 02:19:12.920
shit, dude. I was looking up yesterday. I was

02:19:12.920 --> 02:19:14.219
like, how many times I've been on the fucking

02:19:14.219 --> 02:19:16.540
show? This is the 25th. That's crazy. Yeah. That's

02:19:16.540 --> 02:19:18.440
crazy. Because we used to do it all the time

02:19:18.440 --> 02:19:21.020
when you were just starting out. I know. Yeah.

02:19:21.159 --> 02:19:24.639
And a lot of times it was at the ice house. Mm

02:19:24.639 --> 02:19:26.700
-hmm. Yep. We did the ice house. He did it at

02:19:26.700 --> 02:19:29.559
my house. Yeah. And then when I finally got a

02:19:29.559 --> 02:19:32.940
little mini studio and a little strip mall. Yeah.

02:19:33.440 --> 02:19:38.219
I know. Those ice house shows were crazy because

02:19:38.590 --> 02:19:40.889
We would have a stand -up show going and then

02:19:40.889 --> 02:19:43.010
you'd have about six people on the podcast with

02:19:43.010 --> 02:19:46.149
a joint going the entire time in this small room

02:19:46.149 --> 02:19:50.850
and I have never been high on stage in my life

02:19:50.850 --> 02:19:53.110
except for those shows because it was secondhand

02:19:53.110 --> 02:19:56.489
smoke. I would literally get so baked in and

02:19:56.489 --> 02:19:58.530
then I remember going on stage and then so you

02:19:58.530 --> 02:20:01.370
would go from the podcast to the stage and then

02:20:01.370 --> 02:20:03.209
you come back on the podcast. People would just

02:20:03.209 --> 02:20:06.430
swap out. Yeah, Icehouse Chronicles. Oh my god,

02:20:06.530 --> 02:20:08.780
dude. We thought about doing something similar

02:20:08.780 --> 02:20:10.940
to that at the mothership, like putting together

02:20:10.940 --> 02:20:13.879
a podcast studio at the mothership. We have considered

02:20:13.879 --> 02:20:16.959
doing that. You have space for it? No. But I

02:20:16.959 --> 02:20:18.860
thought about buying another building next to

02:20:18.860 --> 02:20:22.059
me, you know, and then like doing something else

02:20:22.059 --> 02:20:25.840
with that too. Yeah. Build another stage too.

02:20:26.159 --> 02:20:28.200
I don't think so. I think we have enough stages.

02:20:28.420 --> 02:20:31.200
Yeah. Yeah. I think the next move in terms of

02:20:31.200 --> 02:20:35.329
a club would be we go to another city. and try

02:20:35.329 --> 02:20:39.250
to do the same thing and really put a lot of

02:20:39.250 --> 02:20:42.290
time and money and effort into making it right.

02:20:42.870 --> 02:20:45.590
Really making it right. Buying a building. One

02:20:45.590 --> 02:20:48.209
thing I thought would be really crazy, if I could

02:20:48.209 --> 02:20:51.350
buy a big building in New York and recreate the

02:20:51.350 --> 02:20:55.090
exact interior of the mothership. Exactly. Well,

02:20:55.229 --> 02:20:59.489
that's what the Punchline did in Sacramento.

02:20:59.649 --> 02:21:01.850
It's almost the same room as the San Francisco

02:21:01.850 --> 02:21:05.209
one. Oh, really? And then I think the Comedy

02:21:05.209 --> 02:21:08.909
Cellar Vegas room is similar to the New York

02:21:08.909 --> 02:21:10.889
room. Ah, that's good. Yeah. Yeah. I thought

02:21:10.889 --> 02:21:14.049
about literally recreating it with the two staircases

02:21:14.049 --> 02:21:16.610
to the two separate rooms. Yeah. Like finding

02:21:16.610 --> 02:21:19.829
a building that has the same dimensions or similar

02:21:19.829 --> 02:21:22.590
dimensions. Kind of perfect. Yeah. I love the

02:21:22.590 --> 02:21:26.319
walk to the stage. Because you're in the green

02:21:26.319 --> 02:21:28.479
room and you got to go down a flight of stairs

02:21:28.479 --> 02:21:31.000
Then you kind of feel the show over your head

02:21:31.000 --> 02:21:33.159
as you're walking underneath it tunnel under

02:21:33.159 --> 02:21:36.100
the pop -up Yeah, we built all that there was

02:21:36.100 --> 02:21:38.600
no tunnel there before we made all that. Oh no

02:21:38.600 --> 02:21:40.979
shit Yeah, yeah, we had a build. Oh wow. Yeah,

02:21:41.000 --> 02:21:43.799
that was an idea the architect Richard came up

02:21:43.799 --> 02:21:46.159
with yeah we just decided somewhere along the

02:21:46.159 --> 02:21:47.819
way what was the best way to get to the state

02:21:47.819 --> 02:21:48.959
we're trying to figure out how to get to the

02:21:48.959 --> 02:21:50.879
stage you don't have to go through the crowd

02:21:50.879 --> 02:21:53.719
and he came up with the idea of a tunnel and

02:21:53.719 --> 02:21:58.479
it was based on there's like some folklore or

02:21:58.479 --> 02:22:01.159
mythology around tunnels in Austin that connect

02:22:01.159 --> 02:22:04.000
clubs and like he was all big on the history

02:22:04.000 --> 02:22:07.219
of Austin. I feel like it goes back to the gladiators

02:22:07.219 --> 02:22:10.799
too, walking under the arena. Well that's why

02:22:10.799 --> 02:22:12.579
if you go into the green room all those posters

02:22:12.579 --> 02:22:14.959
on the wall are all people that actually performed

02:22:14.959 --> 02:22:17.819
at the Ritz. Oh no shit. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah

02:22:17.819 --> 02:22:20.159
when you look up you see Willie Nelson, Black

02:22:20.159 --> 02:22:22.579
Flag, all those guys they actually performed

02:22:22.579 --> 02:22:26.079
Stevie Ray Vaughan, they actually performed at

02:22:26.079 --> 02:22:27.840
the Ritz. There's a photo of Steve Ray Vaughan

02:22:27.840 --> 02:22:30.440
as you're walking to the stage. Yeah, yeah, right.

02:22:30.639 --> 02:22:32.899
That photo is him on stage at the Ritz. Wow.

02:22:33.139 --> 02:22:35.879
In, I think, 1983 or something like that. Damn.

02:22:36.280 --> 02:22:38.280
Yeah, so it was a rock and roll club for a long

02:22:38.280 --> 02:22:40.379
time. Isn't it funny how Steve Ray Vaughan and

02:22:40.379 --> 02:22:42.680
Bill Hicks are kind of the same guy? In what

02:22:42.680 --> 02:22:45.879
way? I just feel like they're outlaw Texans who

02:22:45.879 --> 02:22:50.079
just like free expression and balls. Genius.

02:22:50.540 --> 02:22:52.760
And they kind of had the same style, like the

02:22:52.760 --> 02:22:55.459
way they dressed and hair. And I just always

02:22:55.459 --> 02:22:57.659
think of them as the same guy. Interesting. Most

02:22:57.659 --> 02:22:59.840
people think of Alex Jones as Bill Hicks. Like

02:22:59.840 --> 02:23:02.840
there's a rumor that Alex Jones is Bill Hicks.

02:23:05.340 --> 02:23:07.159
Which makes no sense. When's the last time you

02:23:07.159 --> 02:23:09.000
had that guy on the show? Oh, it's been a while.

02:23:10.100 --> 02:23:12.930
It was probably a few years ago. Yeah, I see

02:23:12.930 --> 02:23:15.350
him occasionally. Yeah. Yeah, they're still trying

02:23:15.350 --> 02:23:18.010
to get a billion dollars out of him Still trying

02:23:18.010 --> 02:23:22.430
to the Connecticut shooter. Yeah. Yeah It's crazy.

02:23:22.569 --> 02:23:25.729
Does he have a billion dollars? No No, I think

02:23:25.729 --> 02:23:28.670
they they made him liquidate his business. I

02:23:28.670 --> 02:23:31.049
don't know what's going on with it now Jesus

02:23:31.049 --> 02:23:34.270
crazy. Yeah, but the rumor was that he was Bill

02:23:34.270 --> 02:23:37.170
Hicks that Bill Hicks was actually Alex Jones.

02:23:37.569 --> 02:23:39.770
That's funny. Crazy. Yeah. They were both alive

02:23:39.770 --> 02:23:41.530
at the same time. They're very different people.

02:23:43.430 --> 02:23:45.870
But it doesn't have to be logical for it to be

02:23:45.870 --> 02:23:48.430
a good conspiracy. Yeah. You know, there's people

02:23:48.430 --> 02:23:51.670
that still think Tupac's alive. There's a lot

02:23:51.670 --> 02:23:52.909
of goofy -ass conspiracies. People think Jim

02:23:52.909 --> 02:23:56.489
Morrison's alive. Oh, yeah, yeah. Who's the other

02:23:56.489 --> 02:23:59.290
one? Oh, Andy Kaufman, of course. Oh, right.

02:23:59.489 --> 02:24:03.850
I had... Who was his sidekick? Andy Kaufman's

02:24:03.850 --> 02:24:08.739
sidekick? Bob Zamuda. So I had Bob Zamuda, he

02:24:08.739 --> 02:24:11.520
had written a book about Andy Kaufman and claiming

02:24:11.520 --> 02:24:15.000
he's still alive. So he comes over to my, I was

02:24:15.000 --> 02:24:17.860
doing my show in my garage at that point, and

02:24:17.860 --> 02:24:22.360
he comes over and about 45 minutes into the podcast,

02:24:22.659 --> 02:24:26.479
I go, so how does Andy's family feel about...

02:24:26.569 --> 02:24:29.129
you saying this stuff about him still being alive.

02:24:29.770 --> 02:24:31.190
And he's like, oh, they're fine with that. I

02:24:31.190 --> 02:24:33.909
said, I kind of heard that they're a little miffed,

02:24:33.930 --> 02:24:36.229
that they think it's disrespectful, he's clearly

02:24:36.229 --> 02:24:40.709
dead. So we go back and forth, and it gets super

02:24:40.709 --> 02:24:43.950
heated. And he flips out, and he throws his chair

02:24:43.950 --> 02:24:47.590
over, and he fucking storms out. And that was

02:24:47.590 --> 02:24:49.030
the end of the podcast. And I was just like,

02:24:49.049 --> 02:24:52.670
all right, that was weird. And I'm here to announce

02:24:52.670 --> 02:24:57.959
for the first time, that was a fake. It was an

02:24:57.959 --> 02:25:00.940
Andy Kaufman asked stunt really that he flipped

02:25:00.940 --> 02:25:03.120
out and left the podcast. Yeah, and you never

02:25:03.120 --> 02:25:05.420
talked about it No, we did it in the spirit Andy

02:25:05.420 --> 02:25:10.479
Kaufman And people were probably like, oh my

02:25:10.479 --> 02:25:13.219
god, this is so late years ago asking about it

02:25:13.219 --> 02:25:15.200
Bob's been a meltdown on Greg Fitzsimmons podcast

02:25:15.200 --> 02:25:17.299
a very interesting conversation But when it escalates

02:25:17.299 --> 02:25:19.959
at the end, it just blows up question real or

02:25:19.959 --> 02:25:25.819
Kaufman asked That's funny and you kept it under

02:25:25.819 --> 02:25:28.479
wraps. I've never talked about it. That's fun

02:25:28.479 --> 02:25:31.059
Yeah, that won't make sense with Zamuda. He would

02:25:31.059 --> 02:25:34.239
do that Tony Clifton character. Oh my god He

02:25:34.239 --> 02:25:37.079
would dress up as Andy Kaufman's Tony Clifton

02:25:37.079 --> 02:25:40.479
and do you know do appearances? Well, yeah Andy

02:25:40.479 --> 02:25:43.340
would say I'm coming to Vegas to do the Tony

02:25:43.340 --> 02:25:46.360
Clifton character and then Zamuda would be the

02:25:46.360 --> 02:25:48.780
one doing it and people eyes would be going like

02:25:48.780 --> 02:25:52.360
what the fuck I just paid $150 the Andy Kaufman

02:25:55.629 --> 02:25:58.110
Yeah, he did a lot of odd stuff. Yeah, remember

02:25:58.110 --> 02:25:59.950
when he worked as a waiter at Jerry's famous

02:25:59.950 --> 02:26:01.950
deli. Oh, I didn't know that Oh, no, he worked

02:26:01.950 --> 02:26:04.409
as a busboy. There's a photo of him on the wall

02:26:04.409 --> 02:26:07.270
while he was on taxi So he was on the biggest

02:26:07.270 --> 02:26:10.610
television show in the country Yeah, and he had

02:26:10.610 --> 02:26:14.489
like an apron on and he was carrying a fucking

02:26:14.489 --> 02:26:18.010
dish tray Filled with like people's dirty dishes.

02:26:18.829 --> 02:26:21.639
Yeah that photo Look at that photo. That photo

02:26:21.639 --> 02:26:25.500
was on the wall at Jerry's Famous Deli. Andy

02:26:25.500 --> 02:26:27.780
Kaufman worked there. So he was on TV. He was

02:26:27.780 --> 02:26:30.139
a huge star. And you would go and order a pastrami

02:26:30.139 --> 02:26:32.200
ruben, and Andy Kaufman would clean your table.

02:26:33.520 --> 02:26:37.459
Yeah. Who about the wrestling women was genius.

02:26:37.500 --> 02:26:39.559
Oh, he did a lot of nutty shit, man. Dude, he

02:26:39.559 --> 02:26:42.420
locked into that character. People went nuts.

02:26:42.540 --> 02:26:44.739
Is that a video? I think so. Oh, that's hilarious.

02:26:45.959 --> 02:26:47.500
Well, there's a documentary about it. That's

02:26:47.500 --> 02:26:50.540
what was just popping up. Him working at Jerry's

02:26:50.540 --> 02:26:54.840
don't have to Oh, so it's a duck just a documentary

02:26:54.840 --> 02:26:59.500
about him He was a nut man That was the one movie

02:26:59.500 --> 02:27:02.239
where like a lot of people kind of freaked out

02:27:02.239 --> 02:27:06.680
about Jim Carrey We're like he kind of got way

02:27:06.680 --> 02:27:08.920
too into that role. It's sort of like almost

02:27:08.920 --> 02:27:13.340
like Seemed to embody Andy Kaufman. Oh, he talked

02:27:13.340 --> 02:27:15.620
about that. It fucked him up afterwards. Yeah

02:27:16.340 --> 02:27:19.500
And offstage he was he acted like an asshole

02:27:19.500 --> 02:27:22.420
to people how weird which is not like him, right?

02:27:22.719 --> 02:27:26.799
Yeah weird Yeah, that that whole method acting

02:27:26.799 --> 02:27:30.020
thing becoming a perk especially an actual human

02:27:30.020 --> 02:27:32.940
we have to sort of like Figure out their brain

02:27:32.940 --> 02:27:35.299
patterns and their behavior patterns and imitate

02:27:35.299 --> 02:27:39.319
it and then you get trapped in it. Yeah Well,

02:27:39.319 --> 02:27:44.200
since the girl was in talks to play Oh Wow recently

02:27:44.430 --> 02:27:46.649
That's what this article is about about that.

02:27:46.850 --> 02:27:49.270
It's very confusing because I saw it when I had

02:27:49.270 --> 02:27:51.649
that up I saw this screenshot. I'm like, why

02:27:51.649 --> 02:27:54.629
is tom in that? Oh interesting. Yeah, this article

02:27:54.629 --> 02:27:59.909
from 2024 Oh Interesting I don't know what happened

02:27:59.909 --> 02:28:02.829
to it Doesn't seem like much but yeah, that's

02:28:02.829 --> 02:28:06.049
all There's a good documentary. It just came

02:28:06.049 --> 02:28:10.569
out last week on um mel brooks I mean you can't

02:28:10.569 --> 02:28:14.559
understate mel brooks's effect on every whether

02:28:14.559 --> 02:28:17.299
you're a comedian or a writer or a comedy director,

02:28:17.819 --> 02:28:20.340
that guy just, I mean, when I was a kid, my dad

02:28:20.340 --> 02:28:23.020
used to play 2000 year old man for me, those

02:28:23.020 --> 02:28:26.200
albums with Rob Reiner, I'm sorry, Carl Reiner.

02:28:27.360 --> 02:28:29.819
And I was obsessed and The Producers was my father's

02:28:29.819 --> 02:28:31.620
favorite movie, it became my favorite movie.

02:28:32.559 --> 02:28:35.659
And, you know, you just think about like, how

02:28:35.659 --> 02:28:38.540
fucking, your show of shows as a writer early

02:28:38.540 --> 02:28:41.860
on and, you know, and just going on to do - Young

02:28:41.860 --> 02:28:45.760
Frankenstein. Young Frankenstein. Blazing Saddles.

02:28:45.899 --> 02:28:47.879
Blazing Saddles. You know who the movie talks

02:28:47.879 --> 02:28:49.959
about? You know who wrote Blazing Saddles with

02:28:49.959 --> 02:28:52.479
him? Who? Richard Pryor. Oh, that makes sense.

02:28:52.639 --> 02:28:54.680
Isn't that fucking crazy? He was supposed to

02:28:54.680 --> 02:28:57.840
play the sheriff. Wow, Spaceballs. Spaceballs.

02:28:58.500 --> 02:29:02.059
Yeah, that's crazy. But it's a two -part documentary.

02:29:02.100 --> 02:29:04.659
I only saw the first half. Spaceballs is the

02:29:04.659 --> 02:29:07.159
reason why Tesla's Model S is called the Plaid.

02:29:08.379 --> 02:29:10.530
Really? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's hilarious. It's

02:29:10.530 --> 02:29:12.790
also the reason why the Starship is shaped the

02:29:12.790 --> 02:29:14.950
way it is at the tip. Uh -huh. Like Elon wanted

02:29:14.950 --> 02:29:16.729
to be like Spaceballs. Yeah. To make it more

02:29:16.729 --> 02:29:21.309
pointy. Uh -huh. Oh, that's funny. He loves Spaceballs.

02:29:21.350 --> 02:29:24.489
Yeah. That's so funny. Oh yeah, that would be

02:29:24.489 --> 02:29:28.270
perfect for him. Of course. Wow. Of course. Yeah.

02:29:28.489 --> 02:29:30.870
Of course. Are you gonna get an Optimus when

02:29:30.870 --> 02:29:32.649
it comes out? Are you gonna have a robot companion

02:29:32.649 --> 02:29:34.569
in your home? Oh, hell yeah. Why wouldn't you?

02:29:34.920 --> 02:29:37.079
Because I don't want a robot in my house. Let's

02:29:37.079 --> 02:29:38.760
look connected to the internet. I don't have

02:29:38.760 --> 02:29:41.360
Alexa. I don't have anything in my home. I don't

02:29:41.360 --> 02:29:43.739
have any speakers that can listen to me because

02:29:43.739 --> 02:29:47.219
they are listening. Dude, how often are you talking

02:29:47.219 --> 02:29:50.680
about, like, I started getting Austin feeds,

02:29:51.059 --> 02:29:53.600
little videos in my Instagram feed about Austin.

02:29:53.920 --> 02:29:56.440
I never get those. I started getting them yesterday.

02:29:57.059 --> 02:29:58.940
What the fuck is that? They know you're coming.

02:30:00.000 --> 02:30:03.479
Yeah. Well, didn't, wasn't there a lawsuit? that

02:30:03.479 --> 02:30:06.299
Google had to just recently settle, where it

02:30:06.299 --> 02:30:09.159
turned out that there were certain times where

02:30:09.159 --> 02:30:11.459
your phone was listening to you, which is why

02:30:11.459 --> 02:30:13.579
you're getting ads for things that you had discussed.

02:30:13.879 --> 02:30:16.639
Oh yeah, happens all the time. But it was a rumor

02:30:16.639 --> 02:30:19.280
for a long time. It was like, that's just a conspiracy

02:30:19.280 --> 02:30:21.219
theory. Like people are like, this seems weird.

02:30:22.120 --> 02:30:24.719
Google settled 68 million in class action over

02:30:24.719 --> 02:30:27.219
alleged recording of private conversations. That's

02:30:27.219 --> 02:30:30.379
nothing. That's nothing. Yeah, so what is it?

02:30:30.540 --> 02:30:33.129
What was the accusation? They have agreed to

02:30:33.129 --> 02:30:35.649
pay $68 million to settle a class action lawsuit

02:30:35.649 --> 02:30:38.450
alleging they unlawfully recorded users' conversations

02:30:38.450 --> 02:30:41.270
through Google Assist -enabled devices without

02:30:41.270 --> 02:30:44.110
consent. The proposed Google settlement is pending

02:30:44.110 --> 02:30:46.229
approval from a federal judge, U .S. District

02:30:46.229 --> 02:30:49.670
Court for Northern District of California. Class

02:30:49.670 --> 02:30:52.110
action lawsuit was filed in 2019 after consumers

02:30:52.110 --> 02:30:55.549
accused Google of concealing that its assistant

02:30:55.549 --> 02:30:58.350
-enabled devices could unintentionally activate

02:30:58.350 --> 02:31:01.190
and record conversations inside users' homes.

02:31:01.639 --> 02:31:05.319
So that's just for that but that's like Did not

02:31:05.319 --> 02:31:08.000
intentionally activate it with a hot word such

02:31:08.000 --> 02:31:10.420
as hey google because it's listening to you all

02:31:10.420 --> 02:31:12.920
the time So it's listening for you to say hey

02:31:12.920 --> 02:31:15.579
google, but that's you know, that's just google

02:31:15.579 --> 02:31:19.440
assistant devices I don't have one of those But

02:31:19.440 --> 02:31:22.940
yet my phone will bring up suggestions and ads

02:31:22.940 --> 02:31:24.959
for things that i've discussed that I haven't

02:31:24.959 --> 02:31:27.700
looked up Just have the conversations about it

02:31:27.700 --> 02:31:30.579
and it'll pop up. I don't crazy. I don't think

02:31:30.579 --> 02:31:32.840
they would tell you Think it's all metadata.

02:31:32.940 --> 02:31:35.780
It's all hidden so there's no way to know and

02:31:35.780 --> 02:31:39.819
we all know we all kind of know and You know

02:31:39.819 --> 02:31:42.239
people go like well. I'm not I'm not a criminal.

02:31:42.319 --> 02:31:44.520
I got nothing to hide. Yeah, but you don't understand

02:31:44.520 --> 02:31:47.500
the ramifications of this information. If somebody

02:31:47.500 --> 02:31:50.239
is in office and they want to start using keywords

02:31:50.239 --> 02:31:53.360
to locate people that they're gonna have audited,

02:31:53.799 --> 02:31:57.239
like they just, some woman was protesting ICE

02:31:57.239 --> 02:31:59.180
and you know, they've got this facial recognition

02:31:59.180 --> 02:32:02.760
software that lets them know your name, your

02:32:02.760 --> 02:32:04.860
address. Is that Palantir? Is that what they're

02:32:04.860 --> 02:32:06.940
using? It's something, no, it's not Palantir.

02:32:07.000 --> 02:32:09.000
It's something like that. But this woman went

02:32:09.000 --> 02:32:13.520
to the airport, her TSA was What? Yeah! What?

02:32:13.659 --> 02:32:15.680
Because she was a protester? Yep. That's it?

02:32:15.799 --> 02:32:19.260
Yep. Just protesting? Yep. Really? No, they're

02:32:19.260 --> 02:32:22.040
taking your license plate, they're taking people's

02:32:22.040 --> 02:32:24.559
faces, and they're running it through. They had

02:32:24.559 --> 02:32:27.799
one woman went from a protest to her house and

02:32:27.799 --> 02:32:31.079
there was a car parked out front with ICE agents

02:32:31.079 --> 02:32:34.799
in it saying, we know where you live. What? Yeah.

02:32:36.440 --> 02:32:38.219
That's all she did was go to a protest? Yep.

02:32:38.360 --> 02:32:40.729
That's it? I mean, I'm sure she interacted. She

02:32:40.729 --> 02:32:42.850
was probably yelling out or whatever. You sure

02:32:42.850 --> 02:32:44.530
she wasn't a part of the organizers of the protest

02:32:44.530 --> 02:32:46.409
or anything like that? Maybe she was an organizer.

02:32:46.829 --> 02:32:50.489
The weird thing is the signal chats and everything,

02:32:50.850 --> 02:32:54.889
this is all being very coordinated and very funded.

02:32:55.610 --> 02:32:57.889
This is a very coordinated thing, like what they're

02:32:57.889 --> 02:33:00.129
doing, where they're doxing these ICE agents

02:33:00.129 --> 02:33:04.129
and the whole thing. It's all very fucking weird.

02:33:04.250 --> 02:33:07.049
The point about the Google stuff though is...

02:33:06.760 --> 02:33:08.879
The people that go, oh, I'm not doing anything

02:33:08.879 --> 02:33:13.780
illegal. You are giving them your data and that

02:33:13.780 --> 02:33:16.799
data is a commodity and they are getting insanely

02:33:16.799 --> 02:33:20.899
wealthy off of getting your data in an unscrupulous

02:33:20.899 --> 02:33:23.520
way. They're not telling you they're doing this

02:33:23.520 --> 02:33:25.500
thing and they're getting your data. And that

02:33:25.500 --> 02:33:28.020
data is making them insanely wealthy and then

02:33:28.020 --> 02:33:30.340
they use that wealth. in a bunch of different

02:33:30.340 --> 02:33:32.540
ways to influence all sorts of things in the

02:33:32.540 --> 02:33:35.000
world. And that's what's going on. Nobody ever

02:33:35.000 --> 02:33:37.020
thought that their data was going to be a commodity.

02:33:38.000 --> 02:33:40.500
Nobody ever gave a fuck about their email address

02:33:40.500 --> 02:33:42.940
or what they're interested in online. But it

02:33:42.940 --> 02:33:45.739
turns out that's fucking insanely valuable to

02:33:45.739 --> 02:33:50.299
advertisers. And it's also like, you know they're

02:33:50.299 --> 02:33:53.059
listening. You know they're listening. They're

02:33:53.059 --> 02:33:55.840
listening to things. Yeah, they're listening

02:33:55.840 --> 02:33:59.940
and... Yeah, it's it's it there's people now

02:33:59.940 --> 02:34:03.639
using a chat GBT to do therapy. Have you heard

02:34:03.639 --> 02:34:06.959
about that? Yeah. And do you want to put your

02:34:06.959 --> 02:34:09.079
might tell you to kill yourself? Not only that,

02:34:09.100 --> 02:34:12.379
but you're telling your inner most. embarrassing

02:34:12.379 --> 02:34:13.940
things, you think that's not going to be used

02:34:13.940 --> 02:34:16.399
against you at some point? When you try to get

02:34:16.399 --> 02:34:18.899
health insurance and health insurance has now

02:34:18.899 --> 02:34:21.319
audited what you said to ChatGPT and goes, well,

02:34:21.399 --> 02:34:23.479
you're a suicide risk or you're talking about

02:34:23.479 --> 02:34:25.500
trying to quit smoking. Now we know you're smoking.

02:34:26.079 --> 02:34:29.680
Any details? Wasn't there an instance real recently

02:34:29.680 --> 02:34:34.079
where someone had uploaded top secret information

02:34:34.079 --> 02:34:38.959
to ChatGPT to a public government official? See

02:34:38.959 --> 02:34:41.399
if you can find this. Government official uploaded

02:34:41.399 --> 02:34:46.219
to a public chat GPT, not like some secure encrypted

02:34:46.219 --> 02:34:48.319
version that the government gets because they

02:34:48.319 --> 02:34:51.700
were trying to go over some data. Here it is.

02:34:51.860 --> 02:34:55.540
U .S. cyber defense chief accidentally uploaded

02:34:55.540 --> 02:35:00.079
secret government info to chat GPT. So they grilled

02:35:00.079 --> 02:35:02.459
the acting chief on a mass layoffs and a failed

02:35:02.459 --> 02:35:07.360
polygraph. Polygraph is hilarious. So this guy

02:35:07.360 --> 02:35:10.280
good luck saying his name Accidentally uploaded

02:35:10.280 --> 02:35:12.680
sensitive information to a public version of

02:35:12.680 --> 02:35:16.479
chat GBT last summer according Accidentally according

02:35:16.479 --> 02:35:18.360
to four Department of Homeland Security officials

02:35:18.360 --> 02:35:20.840
with knowledge of the incident Try to say that

02:35:20.840 --> 02:35:24.459
guy's name. Got him a cooler. Is that it? Got

02:35:24.459 --> 02:35:26.860
him a cooler. Okay. Got him a cooler. He plays

02:35:26.860 --> 02:35:31.239
defense for the Rams uploads Fuck a big Polish

02:35:31.239 --> 02:35:38.020
guy uploads of sensitive C -I -S -A contracting

02:35:38.020 --> 02:35:40.540
documents triggered multiple internal cybersecurity

02:35:40.540 --> 02:35:43.500
warnings designed to stop theft or unintentional

02:35:43.500 --> 02:35:45.700
disclosure of government material from federal

02:35:45.700 --> 02:35:48.180
networks. And this fucking guy's the director

02:35:48.180 --> 02:35:51.399
of cybersecurity and infrastructure security?

02:35:52.280 --> 02:35:53.680
That's crazy. Well, what does it mean, accidentally

02:35:53.680 --> 02:35:58.639
upload? Did it eavesdrop on him or did he say

02:35:58.639 --> 02:36:01.219
something that caused ChatGBT to... It seems

02:36:01.219 --> 02:36:03.860
like he... Uploaded the data like he was probably

02:36:03.860 --> 02:36:05.680
trying to parse out the data. It's just hired

02:36:05.680 --> 02:36:14.340
to or just join The information was not confidential

02:36:14.340 --> 02:36:20.020
but marked for official use only I Feel like

02:36:20.020 --> 02:36:23.680
Russia and China know Everything and we know

02:36:23.680 --> 02:36:25.299
everything and we know about Russia and China

02:36:25.299 --> 02:36:29.270
right and they're all ratting on each other Palantir

02:36:29.270 --> 02:36:32.129
app use ice uses to find neighborhoods to raid.

02:36:32.409 --> 02:36:41.110
Yeah, so it is Palantir at least for that Nuts.

02:36:41.209 --> 02:36:43.569
Jim Rogan experience, can't afford to pay for

02:36:43.569 --> 02:36:45.610
it. Is this it? We're wrapping it up? Let's wrap

02:36:45.610 --> 02:36:47.290
this bitch up. No! It's four o 'clock. Can I

02:36:47.290 --> 02:36:51.049
name some dates? Fuck yeah. I will be at the

02:36:51.049 --> 02:36:54.329
Philadelphia Helium, as I said, Valentine's Day

02:36:54.329 --> 02:36:55.930
weekend. Great fucking club. I'm going to be

02:36:55.930 --> 02:36:57.950
in Sacramento at the punch line next week. Great

02:36:57.950 --> 02:36:59.389
fucking club. And then I'm going to be in Lexington,

02:36:59.389 --> 02:37:01.850
Kentucky at Comedy Off Broadway. Great fucking

02:37:01.850 --> 02:37:05.889
club. And this is greatfitsimmons .com. Go to

02:37:05.889 --> 02:37:09.200
the link for standup dates, plenty of gigs. The

02:37:09.200 --> 02:37:11.479
podcasts are Sunday Papers with Mike Gibbons,

02:37:11.719 --> 02:37:13.500
which, oh, by the way, thank you for the shout

02:37:13.500 --> 02:37:15.319
out. You and Bert Kreischer gave me a little

02:37:15.319 --> 02:37:18.500
love bath yesterday. That was nice. So yeah,

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he was talking about Sunday Papers I've been

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doing with Mike for a long time, and then FitzDogg

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Radio that you've been on many times. Ye fucking

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ha. All right. We're going to wrap it up. You're

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at the mothership this weekend. I'm very excited

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about that. You going to come down? Fuck yeah.

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Fuck yeah. All right, good. Goodbye.