WEBVTT 00:00:00.950 --> 00:00:04.750 saying to us, evaluate Saul and kingship in Israel 00:00:04.750 --> 00:00:07.589 under Saul in light of everything that we've 00:00:07.589 --> 00:00:09.550 said before, in light of what the people wanted, 00:00:09.710 --> 00:00:12.250 in light of what God gave them, and in light 00:00:12.250 --> 00:00:17.050 of what God's expectation of him was and was 00:00:17.050 --> 00:00:21.910 given to him, told him through Samuel. So think 00:00:21.910 --> 00:00:25.710 back with me, if you can, what did the people 00:00:25.710 --> 00:00:38.070 want? O -P -L -E. Okay. A king. What was the 00:00:38.070 --> 00:00:39.649 king going to do? What did they want him to do? 00:00:39.929 --> 00:00:42.710 I better remember. Go out and fight their battles. 00:00:43.350 --> 00:00:49.929 Okay. So that's number three. Go before them. 00:00:50.210 --> 00:00:52.810 Or no, fight their battles. Oh, I just gave you 00:00:52.810 --> 00:00:59.670 number two. Go before them. So fight their battles, 00:00:59.770 --> 00:01:06.719 number two. Go before them. And what was number 00:01:06.719 --> 00:01:22.159 one? No. Judges. Judges. Now, just if you glanced 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:25.799 at that, what you should see is that it's God 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:28.079 that goes before them, right? It's God that goes 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:30.849 before us. It's God that fights our battles, 00:01:30.989 --> 00:01:38.730 and it's God alone who can judge us. So, just 00:01:38.730 --> 00:01:42.250 in their declaration of what they wanted and 00:01:42.250 --> 00:01:44.890 what they expected out of a king, it should be 00:01:44.890 --> 00:01:47.430 obvious to us that that is a replacement for 00:01:47.430 --> 00:01:49.890 the God that called them out of Egypt, redeemed 00:01:49.890 --> 00:01:53.150 them, led them, and went before them through 00:01:53.150 --> 00:01:56.890 the wilderness, and judged them. So that God... 00:01:57.450 --> 00:02:00.230 The Lord God Almighty was the one that had done 00:02:00.230 --> 00:02:03.430 all these things for them consistently since 00:02:03.430 --> 00:02:07.349 he called them out of Egypt. He had done so by 00:02:07.349 --> 00:02:10.729 means of prophets, judges, and priests, no doubt. 00:02:10.889 --> 00:02:13.689 But it was God that was doing all these things. 00:02:14.430 --> 00:02:17.289 So that's what the people wanted. And why did 00:02:17.289 --> 00:02:22.189 they want that? Because they wanted to be like 00:02:22.189 --> 00:02:24.710 everybody else. To be like everybody else. So 00:02:24.710 --> 00:02:32.349 we'll say so that. We can be like everyone else. 00:02:36.490 --> 00:02:50.289 We can be like everyone else. Alright, then what 00:02:50.289 --> 00:02:54.650 about Saul? What do we know about Saul? What 00:02:54.650 --> 00:03:01.610 do we know about the king that was given? Now 00:03:01.610 --> 00:03:09.949 he was given, right? Is that true? It was God 00:03:09.949 --> 00:03:11.810 that anointed him. It was God that called him. 00:03:11.870 --> 00:03:13.729 It was God that sent him to Samuel. And it was 00:03:13.729 --> 00:03:17.490 Samuel that told him he was going to have, he 00:03:17.490 --> 00:03:21.129 was the desire of everyone in Israel. So what 00:03:21.129 --> 00:03:28.090 do we know about Saul? Physically, what do we 00:03:28.090 --> 00:03:32.310 know about him? He was tall and what else? He 00:03:32.310 --> 00:03:37.689 was handsome. Tall and good looking. And what 00:03:37.689 --> 00:03:42.250 is that? Handsome. Well, he was good in what? 00:03:42.610 --> 00:03:44.689 Yeah, he may have been handsome, but just in 00:03:44.689 --> 00:03:47.770 the way he interacted with other people, in the 00:03:47.770 --> 00:03:51.310 way he carried himself in public, the way he 00:03:51.310 --> 00:03:56.229 interacted with other people, he was everything 00:03:56.229 --> 00:03:59.370 that a man would want. He was, if we wanted to 00:03:59.370 --> 00:04:02.110 say, the politician extraordinaire. He could 00:04:02.110 --> 00:04:05.389 get along with people. He could be friendly with 00:04:05.389 --> 00:04:08.030 people. He was handsome and good -looking. People 00:04:08.030 --> 00:04:12.530 would follow him based on those things. So what 00:04:12.530 --> 00:04:15.990 we're just going to say is that's the flesh. 00:04:17.029 --> 00:04:20.750 So in the flesh, he was perfect. He was perfectly 00:04:20.750 --> 00:04:22.810 suited to be a king. What else do we know about 00:04:22.810 --> 00:04:26.350 him? How does the writer to 1 Samuel present 00:04:26.350 --> 00:04:29.649 him? Remember the time when he was chasing down 00:04:29.649 --> 00:04:33.589 the donkeys and trying to find them? And then 00:04:33.589 --> 00:04:41.029 he was anointed. He prophesied. He was declared 00:04:41.029 --> 00:04:43.970 to be king in the people. He led the people out 00:04:43.970 --> 00:04:45.730 into battle, and then he was finally confirmed 00:04:45.730 --> 00:04:49.730 as king. How does the writer present him in all 00:04:49.730 --> 00:04:53.529 those things, in all that whole narrative, those 00:04:53.529 --> 00:04:58.180 four chapters? Is it generally speaking positive? 00:04:59.540 --> 00:05:02.459 Generally negative. Okay, so it's generally negative. 00:05:05.379 --> 00:05:19.620 Generally. Not everything. Negative. Generally 00:05:19.620 --> 00:05:23.129 a negative presentation. What else do we know? 00:05:23.230 --> 00:05:26.310 What specifically do we know are the reasons 00:05:26.310 --> 00:05:31.370 why he's not spoken highly of by the author? 00:05:31.730 --> 00:05:36.269 What do we know about his character? I have two 00:05:36.269 --> 00:05:50.490 things. Okay. Why is he timid? Or what makes 00:05:50.490 --> 00:05:58.629 him timid? Okay, so he has a fear of the people 00:05:58.629 --> 00:06:07.930 because why? Huh? Okay, so he's afraid of the 00:06:07.930 --> 00:06:11.449 people because he wants their approval. He's 00:06:11.449 --> 00:06:13.889 not sure he's going to get it. So he's seeking 00:06:13.889 --> 00:06:24.000 the approval of men. Seeking men's approval, 00:06:24.279 --> 00:06:28.579 and he's fearful because of that. Who should 00:06:28.579 --> 00:06:30.680 he be afraid of, and whose approval should he 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:35.740 be seeking? God's. Okay, and then, did somebody 00:06:35.740 --> 00:06:41.540 say something? No? And then number four, what 00:06:41.540 --> 00:07:07.199 else do we know about him? He acknowledged, and 00:07:07.199 --> 00:07:09.399 I think we said, that there's no reason to doubt 00:07:09.399 --> 00:07:16.079 his humility when he protested his calling as 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:21.800 king. But no, it wasn't because of that humility 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:25.300 that he didn't want to be king. It was memory 00:07:25.300 --> 00:07:29.139 was hiding in the stuff until what? The mighty 00:07:29.139 --> 00:07:33.199 men came alongside him, and then he won. And 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:36.379 then what did he do when the mighty men came 00:07:36.379 --> 00:07:40.560 out? Yeah, what did he do? Remember at the end 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:43.680 of the chapter, there were lots of people that 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:45.600 were applauding him. There were some people that 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:48.920 were holding him in derision. They weren't too 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:50.819 thrilled about him. They said, is this guy really 00:07:50.819 --> 00:07:53.800 going to be able to deliver us? And what did 00:07:53.800 --> 00:08:00.800 he do? He let it slide. He ignored it. What should 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:13.600 he have done? What's that? In what way? When 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:18.779 you come against the Lord's anointed, the penalty 00:08:18.779 --> 00:08:20.740 is death. When you come against the king, the 00:08:20.740 --> 00:08:27.290 penalty is death. So he was then... And who prescribed 00:08:27.290 --> 00:08:32.529 that punishment, that consequence for that rebellion? 00:08:41.529 --> 00:08:46.350 Okay, so who sanctioned that? Okay, so God was 00:08:46.350 --> 00:08:48.529 the one that said, this is what happens when 00:08:48.529 --> 00:08:52.230 you rebel against me, especially publicly and 00:08:52.230 --> 00:08:59.190 against my anointed. When Saul didn't then deal 00:08:59.190 --> 00:09:01.490 with them in the way that God had outlined for 00:09:01.490 --> 00:09:08.289 them, what is that an indication of? It's an 00:09:08.289 --> 00:09:10.629 indication of two things. Number one is fear 00:09:10.629 --> 00:09:15.909 of people. Number two, what? Disobedience. So 00:09:15.909 --> 00:09:19.090 sometimes he just wanted to do what he wanted 00:09:19.090 --> 00:09:29.909 to do. Okay. So he's not submitted. Not submitted 00:09:29.909 --> 00:09:42.470 to God's authority. Okay, so that's what we have, 00:09:42.570 --> 00:09:47.110 what the people want. That's the king that God 00:09:47.110 --> 00:09:52.429 has given them. Is kingship then lost? Does everyone, 00:09:52.570 --> 00:09:55.129 including God, just throw up their hands and 00:09:55.129 --> 00:09:58.110 say, this is it, we're doomed, nothing good can 00:09:58.110 --> 00:10:01.070 happen. Perhaps we would have come to that conclusion 00:10:01.070 --> 00:10:05.450 except for chapter 12, where we have the renewal 00:10:05.450 --> 00:10:22.409 of the kingdom. Or of the... Is it kingdom? Well, 00:10:24.470 --> 00:10:28.710 I can't find the verse. But we have this renewal 00:10:28.710 --> 00:10:34.350 ceremony, and in that ceremony, Samuel lays out 00:10:34.350 --> 00:10:38.809 the way that kingship can function, even under 00:10:38.809 --> 00:10:44.529 Saul, in Israel, if something happens. Does anybody 00:10:44.529 --> 00:10:51.450 remember what is required from chapter 12? That's 00:10:51.450 --> 00:10:58.769 where we were last week. How can kingship, or 00:10:58.769 --> 00:11:01.330 how can the king and the people function properly 00:11:01.330 --> 00:11:07.049 in a God -honoring way in Israel right now, even 00:11:07.049 --> 00:11:11.129 with Saul? What does Samuel tell them? There's 00:11:11.129 --> 00:11:13.590 three things that they have to do. Fear God, 00:11:13.809 --> 00:11:23.490 is that one? Okay, so renewal. Number one, fear. 00:11:28.009 --> 00:11:32.009 Number two. Is this all in verse 24 of chapter 00:11:32.009 --> 00:11:36.509 12? 14 is what I wrote down, but it could have 00:11:36.509 --> 00:11:41.850 been 24. No, I see it there, 14. Okay, so what 00:11:41.850 --> 00:11:56.210 else? Serve. And what else? Obey. And then what 00:11:56.210 --> 00:11:59.149 else is going to be necessary alongside of this? 00:12:02.090 --> 00:12:04.389 There's going to have to be something else going 00:12:04.389 --> 00:12:06.909 on, something else functioning properly in Israel 00:12:06.909 --> 00:12:09.649 if the king and the people are going to go in 00:12:09.649 --> 00:12:11.710 the right way. What are they going to have to 00:12:11.710 --> 00:12:19.830 have? A priest. What did you say, Jake? A priest. 00:12:20.730 --> 00:12:25.720 And? A prophet. Okay. And who is that prophet 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:30.620 priest? Okay. So you have to have these three 00:12:30.620 --> 00:12:40.360 things plus Samuel. As a prophet. And what does 00:12:40.360 --> 00:12:47.500 a prophet do? Okay. And he had done that flawlessly, 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:50.519 remember? And then he has functioned as a priest 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:54.789 offering sacrifices, peace offerings, and other 00:12:54.789 --> 00:12:59.029 sacrifices and then what in verse 23 what else 00:12:59.029 --> 00:13:02.230 is he going to do he has the law which is what 00:13:02.230 --> 00:13:05.210 amanda said and what's he going to do with that 00:13:05.210 --> 00:13:10.710 law as prophet and priest he's going to teach 00:13:10.710 --> 00:13:17.070 it so if if the people would have listened to 00:13:17.070 --> 00:13:20.750 the teaching of samuel and if samuel interceded 00:13:20.750 --> 00:13:22.610 for them which he swore to them he was going 00:13:22.610 --> 00:13:26.879 to do and if he offered the sacrifices as he 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:29.799 was committed to doing, and the king and the 00:13:29.799 --> 00:13:32.799 people would listen and would follow, then even 00:13:32.799 --> 00:13:36.580 under Saul, with all of his faults, with all 00:13:36.580 --> 00:13:39.500 of his shortcomings, with the bad start that 00:13:39.500 --> 00:13:41.799 it was, it would have functioned properly, and 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:45.340 God would have been honored in that thing. So 00:13:45.340 --> 00:13:48.059 what we have here then in these next two and 00:13:48.059 --> 00:13:50.320 a half chapters is an opportunity to look at 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:55.059 what Saul does now. anointed king. He's been 00:13:55.059 --> 00:13:57.259 declared king by the elders. He's been declared 00:13:57.259 --> 00:14:00.399 king in the presence of all of Israel. He's gone 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:06.200 through the Urim and the Thurim or the casting 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:09.919 of lots. He's been in every way shown that this 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:12.519 is God's man. This is God's king. Now how's he 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:18.519 going to act? Anybody got any guesses? Anybody 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:22.759 got any thoughts? on how he acts in chapter 13. 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:31.559 Anybody give any thought to that? He doesn't 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:35.320 change directions at all, does he? And then we 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:40.220 have this contrasting views of who? Do you remember? 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:45.580 Jonathan. And in chapter 13, we don't even know 00:14:45.580 --> 00:14:47.620 that Jonathan is his son. We don't find that 00:14:47.620 --> 00:14:50.759 out until chapter 14. Which is ironic because 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:55.559 had Saul done what he was supposed to have done, 00:14:55.679 --> 00:14:58.500 it appears that Jonathan would have been a great 00:14:58.500 --> 00:15:01.580 king. A man who feared the Lord, a man who trusted 00:15:01.580 --> 00:15:06.080 in the Lord, a man who was ready, willing, and 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:08.919 able to submit to the authority of God. And yet, 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:12.960 Saul is the king. Alright, so then let's read 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:15.419 chapter 13. I have a quick question. Yeah, go 00:15:15.419 --> 00:15:24.379 ahead. Chapter 9. Okay. Where it says that Saul 00:15:24.379 --> 00:15:28.480 was a choice young man and a goodly I have. And 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:30.700 there was not among the children of Israel a 00:15:30.700 --> 00:15:33.840 goodlier person than he from his shoulders and 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:35.679 upward he was higher than all of the people. 00:15:36.460 --> 00:15:38.840 Are you saying like all of that is just about 00:15:38.840 --> 00:15:41.639 his physical appearance? Yeah. Well his physical 00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:49.240 and his personality that's all flesh. Okay. The 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:51.720 goodly part. It may have been that he was wealthy. 00:15:51.860 --> 00:15:54.259 It might have been that he was influential. It 00:15:54.259 --> 00:15:57.740 could be any number of things. It seems. That 00:15:57.740 --> 00:16:00.100 it was. You know it could have been all those 00:16:00.100 --> 00:16:07.600 things. That's why he was the ideal choice. Anybody 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:16.419 else? Alright now. We have to deal with a couple 00:16:16.419 --> 00:16:19.779 of hard verses. And a couple of. strange concepts 00:16:19.779 --> 00:16:23.440 here so we'll do that. Number one is the timeline 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:27.679 and number two is this first verse. Saul reigned 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:30.919 one year and when he had reigned two years over 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:34.419 Israel Saul chose him three thousand men of Israel 00:16:34.419 --> 00:16:38.019 whereof two thousand were with Saul in Mishmash 00:16:38.019 --> 00:16:41.799 and in Mount Bethel and a thousand were with 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:45.399 Jonathan in Gibeah of Benjamin and the rest of 00:16:45.399 --> 00:16:48.519 the people he sent every man to his tent. And 00:16:48.519 --> 00:16:51.059 Jonathan smoked the garrison of the Philistines 00:16:51.059 --> 00:16:53.860 that was in Geba, and the Philistines heard of 00:16:53.860 --> 00:16:56.240 it. And Saul blew the trumpet throughout the 00:16:56.240 --> 00:17:02.139 land, saying, Let the Hebrews hear. And all Israel 00:17:02.139 --> 00:17:05.259 heard say that Saul had smitten a garrison of 00:17:05.259 --> 00:17:08.400 the Philistines, and that Israel also was had 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:11.299 an abomination with the Philistines. And the 00:17:11.299 --> 00:17:14.140 people were called together after Saul to Gilgal. 00:17:15.309 --> 00:17:17.630 And the Philistines gathered themselves together 00:17:17.630 --> 00:17:21.130 to fight with Israel, 30 ,000 chariots and 6 00:17:21.130 --> 00:17:25.910 ,000 horsemen and people as the sand which is 00:17:25.910 --> 00:17:28.410 on the seashore in multitude. And they came up 00:17:28.410 --> 00:17:32.549 and pitched in Mishmash, eastward from Beth -Avon. 00:17:33.289 --> 00:17:35.809 When the men of Israel saw that they were in 00:17:35.809 --> 00:17:38.650 a strait, for the people were distressed, then 00:17:38.650 --> 00:17:41.089 the people did hide themselves in caves and in 00:17:41.089 --> 00:17:43.650 thickets and rocks and in high places and in 00:17:43.650 --> 00:17:47.089 pits. And some of the Hebrews went over Jordan 00:17:47.089 --> 00:17:50.930 to the land of Gad and Gilead. As for Saul, he 00:17:50.930 --> 00:17:53.930 was yet in Gilgal, and all the people followed 00:17:53.930 --> 00:17:57.670 him, trembling. And he tarried seven days, according 00:17:57.670 --> 00:18:00.869 to the set time that Samuel had appointed. But 00:18:00.869 --> 00:18:03.849 Samuel came not to Gilgal, and the people were 00:18:03.849 --> 00:18:07.250 scattered from him. And Saul said, Bring hither 00:18:07.250 --> 00:18:09.609 a burnt offering to me, and peace offerings. 00:18:09.890 --> 00:18:13.029 And he offered the burnt offering. And it came 00:18:13.029 --> 00:18:15.390 to pass that as soon as he had made an end of 00:18:15.390 --> 00:18:18.269 offering the burnt offering, behold, Samuel came. 00:18:18.910 --> 00:18:21.329 And Saul went out to meet him, that he might 00:18:21.329 --> 00:18:24.769 salute him. And Samuel said, What hast thou done? 00:18:25.390 --> 00:18:28.630 And Saul said, Because I saw that the people 00:18:28.630 --> 00:18:30.970 were scattered from me, and that thou camest 00:18:30.970 --> 00:18:34.150 not within the days appointed, and that the Philistines 00:18:34.150 --> 00:18:37.589 gathered themselves together at Mishmash, therefore 00:18:37.589 --> 00:18:40.970 said I, The Philistines will come down now upon 00:18:40.970 --> 00:18:44.160 me to Gilgal. and I have not made supplication 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:47.359 unto the Lord. I forced myself, therefore, and 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:50.740 offered a burnt offering. And Samuel said to 00:18:50.740 --> 00:18:53.960 Saul, Thou hast done foolishly. Thou hast not 00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:56.259 kept the commandment of the Lord thy God, which 00:18:56.259 --> 00:18:59.000 he commanded thee. For now would the Lord have 00:18:59.000 --> 00:19:01.480 established thy kingdom upon Israel forever, 00:19:01.779 --> 00:19:05.339 but now thy kingdom shall not continue. The Lord 00:19:05.339 --> 00:19:08.380 hath sought him a man after his own heart, and 00:19:08.380 --> 00:19:10.680 the Lord hath commanded him to be captain over 00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:15.200 his people. Because thou hast not kept that which 00:19:15.200 --> 00:19:18.400 the Lord commanded thee. And Samuel arose and 00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:22.480 gat him up from Gilgal unto Gibeah of Benjamin. 00:19:22.700 --> 00:19:24.839 And Saul numbered the people that were present 00:19:24.839 --> 00:19:28.859 with him, about six hundred men. And Saul and 00:19:28.859 --> 00:19:31.420 Jonathan his son, and the people that were present 00:19:31.420 --> 00:19:34.980 with them, abode in Gibeah of Benjamin. But the 00:19:34.980 --> 00:19:39.380 Philistines encamped in Mishmash. And the spoilers 00:19:39.380 --> 00:19:41.740 came out of the camp of the Philistines in three 00:19:41.740 --> 00:19:44.740 companies. One company turned unto the way that 00:19:44.740 --> 00:19:48.619 leadeth to Ophrah, unto the land of Sheol. And 00:19:48.619 --> 00:19:53.019 another company turned away to Beth Haran, to 00:19:53.019 --> 00:19:56.220 the way of the border that looketh to the valley 00:19:56.220 --> 00:19:59.660 of Zeboim toward the wilderness. Now there was 00:19:59.660 --> 00:20:02.240 no smith found throughout all the land of Israel. 00:20:02.400 --> 00:20:05.779 For the Philistines said, Lest the Hebrews make 00:20:05.779 --> 00:20:09.380 them swords or spears. But all the Israelites 00:20:09.380 --> 00:20:12.119 went down to the Philistines to sharpen every 00:20:12.119 --> 00:20:15.279 man his share, and his coulter, and his axe, 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:21.279 and his mattock. Yet they had a file for the 00:20:21.279 --> 00:20:24.720 mattocks, and for the coulters, and for the forks, 00:20:24.740 --> 00:20:28.420 and for the axes, and to sharpen the goads. So 00:20:28.420 --> 00:20:30.859 it came to pass in the day of battle that there 00:20:30.859 --> 00:20:33.500 was neither sword nor spear found in the hand 00:20:33.500 --> 00:20:35.579 of any of the people that were with Saul and 00:20:35.579 --> 00:20:39.200 Jonathan. But with Saul and with Jonathan his 00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:43.299 son was their found weapons. And the garrison 00:20:43.299 --> 00:20:46.160 of the Philistines went out to the passage of 00:20:46.160 --> 00:20:53.259 Mishmash. So here we have this story of what's 00:20:53.259 --> 00:21:00.539 going on. Saul has made it to Gilgal and he's 00:21:00.539 --> 00:21:05.359 waiting for Samuel. Samuel shows up. On the seventh 00:21:05.359 --> 00:21:08.900 day, Saul was convinced he wasn't going to make 00:21:08.900 --> 00:21:11.500 it, so he goes ahead and offers the sacrifice. 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:17.240 Samuel calls him a fool and tells him that the 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:19.940 Lord will not establish his kingdom. And then 00:21:19.940 --> 00:21:23.660 we hear of the plight of Israel under the hand 00:21:23.660 --> 00:21:28.819 of the Philistines. The Philistines were in control 00:21:28.819 --> 00:21:33.079 of the entire area. The only thing I come up 00:21:33.079 --> 00:21:36.779 with is kind of like when you have a battleship 00:21:36.779 --> 00:21:41.940 and you have an aircraft carrier protected by 00:21:41.940 --> 00:21:44.940 battleships and destroyers, it controls that 00:21:44.940 --> 00:21:47.700 entire area. If there's a battleship parked on 00:21:47.700 --> 00:21:52.220 your coast, or a carrier parked on your coast, 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:55.660 you don't get to do anything that the admiral 00:21:55.660 --> 00:21:58.049 of the carrier doesn't want you to do. Because 00:21:58.049 --> 00:22:00.049 if he finds that you've done anything, all he's 00:22:00.049 --> 00:22:02.490 got to do is he can either send his helicopters 00:22:02.490 --> 00:22:04.670 in there, he can send his jets in there, he can 00:22:04.670 --> 00:22:07.009 send the Marines in there, or he can just have 00:22:07.009 --> 00:22:10.589 the battleship bomb you to smithereens. So you 00:22:10.589 --> 00:22:14.529 are beholden then to the power that exerts influence 00:22:14.529 --> 00:22:17.789 over a certain area. That's what the Philistines 00:22:17.789 --> 00:22:20.849 were to Israel. They were there, and so they 00:22:20.849 --> 00:22:25.099 said, you can't even have any weapons. We're 00:22:25.099 --> 00:22:27.579 not going to allow any kind of smiths, blacksmiths. 00:22:27.700 --> 00:22:30.480 Nobody's going to be able to work iron in Israel. 00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:34.119 If you want to have your axe sharpened, then 00:22:34.119 --> 00:22:37.119 bring it on down here to us. We'll charge you 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:39.220 an exorbitant fee. We'll sharpen your axe, and 00:22:39.220 --> 00:22:42.619 you can go back. But there was nothing available 00:22:42.619 --> 00:22:46.299 in Israel. And then, not only did they disarm 00:22:46.299 --> 00:22:49.220 them, But even when they sent them out, you remember, 00:22:49.319 --> 00:22:51.019 in three different directions, those were all 00:22:51.019 --> 00:22:52.960 the trade routes. Those were all the main roads 00:22:52.960 --> 00:22:58.259 in Israel controlled by the Philistines. So Israel 00:22:58.259 --> 00:23:00.140 then, they were in a strait. They were in a real 00:23:00.140 --> 00:23:03.359 pickle. They were without any kind of weapons, 00:23:03.420 --> 00:23:06.619 and they were beholden to these Philistines. 00:23:07.140 --> 00:23:12.960 Now, let's remember back. Because remember here 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:16.619 it says that he waited for the appointed time 00:23:16.619 --> 00:23:20.779 that Samuel had given him. So let's try to think 00:23:20.779 --> 00:23:22.980 back where he heard that from Samuel and then 00:23:22.980 --> 00:23:26.579 let's think back and try to remember why it was 00:23:26.579 --> 00:23:30.740 that God chose Saul and what God instructed Saul 00:23:30.740 --> 00:23:39.440 to do. What was his main mission as king? Anybody 00:23:39.440 --> 00:23:49.029 remember? To defeat the Philistines. That's what, 00:23:49.109 --> 00:24:04.309 and I, where did we find that? 9, 16. Chapter 00:24:04.309 --> 00:24:07.549 9, verse 16. Tomorrow about this time I will 00:24:07.549 --> 00:24:09.730 send thee a man out of the land of Benjamin, 00:24:09.869 --> 00:24:12.690 and thou shalt anoint him to be captain over 00:24:12.690 --> 00:24:15.710 my people Israel. that he may save my people 00:24:15.710 --> 00:24:18.369 out of the hand of the Philistines. For I have 00:24:18.369 --> 00:24:21.490 looked upon my people because their cry has come 00:24:21.490 --> 00:24:55.839 unto me. Okay, so Saul's mission. Defeat the 00:24:55.839 --> 00:25:07.500 Philistines. Who started to bring the victory 00:25:07.500 --> 00:25:15.309 over the Philistines? Well, which one? Samson 00:25:15.309 --> 00:25:20.250 was the one that began the victory over the Philistines. 00:25:20.289 --> 00:25:23.450 When he brought the temple down, when he shoved 00:25:23.450 --> 00:25:27.930 the pillars aside, and the entire temple or whatever 00:25:27.930 --> 00:25:30.910 the building that it was fell down on all the 00:25:30.910 --> 00:25:34.009 important people, all the powerful people in 00:25:34.009 --> 00:25:38.210 the, I can't remember what city that was in. 00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:41.819 He began the victory and the deliverance from 00:25:41.819 --> 00:25:45.339 the Philistines. Saul's mission was to finally 00:25:45.339 --> 00:25:50.220 defeat the Philistines. His only mission thus 00:25:50.220 --> 00:25:52.200 far has been what? What has he accomplished? 00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:08.650 Well, who did he fight? In chapter 11, Chapter 00:26:08.650 --> 00:26:15.190 10? Yeah, chapter 11. Nahash the Ammonite. So 00:26:15.190 --> 00:26:16.950 from the beginning, he's supposed to go out and 00:26:16.950 --> 00:26:20.049 he's supposed to defeat the Philistines. Now, 00:26:20.089 --> 00:26:22.289 if you're trying to remember, go back to chapter 00:26:22.289 --> 00:26:55.130 8. We'll look at that too. Let you know. Okay, 00:26:55.150 --> 00:27:03.470 it's chapter 10. We'll read verse 6, 7 and 8. 00:27:03.609 --> 00:27:06.609 And the Spirit of the Lord will come upon thee. 00:27:06.630 --> 00:27:09.349 Remember, that's rush upon thee, the same terminology 00:27:09.349 --> 00:27:13.049 used of Samson. And thou shalt prophesy with 00:27:13.049 --> 00:27:16.089 them, and shalt be turned into another man. And 00:27:16.089 --> 00:27:18.670 let it be when these signs are come unto thee, 00:27:18.829 --> 00:27:21.990 that thou do as occasion serve thee, for God 00:27:21.990 --> 00:27:25.109 is with thee. And thou shalt go down before me 00:27:25.109 --> 00:27:28.190 to Gilgal, and behold, I will come down unto 00:27:28.190 --> 00:27:30.730 thee to offer burnt offerings and to sacrifice 00:27:30.730 --> 00:27:34.950 sacrifices of peace offerings. Seven days shalt 00:27:34.950 --> 00:27:37.970 thou tarry till I come to thee and show thee 00:27:37.970 --> 00:27:42.430 what thou shalt do. Now before we get into it, 00:27:42.450 --> 00:28:09.029 let's turn back to Judges chapter 9. Judges 9, 00:28:09.150 --> 00:28:20.769 this is who? Abimelech. 9, verse 33. And it shall 00:28:20.769 --> 00:28:23.289 be that in the morning, as soon as the sun is 00:28:23.289 --> 00:28:26.769 up, that thou shalt rise early and set upon the 00:28:26.769 --> 00:28:29.730 city, and behold, when he and the people that 00:28:29.730 --> 00:28:32.650 is with him come out against thee, then mayest 00:28:32.650 --> 00:28:35.089 thou do to them as thou shalt find occasion. 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:39.559 Sounds very similar then to Samuel's instruction 00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:44.259 to Saul to do as occasion serve thee for God 00:28:44.259 --> 00:28:47.259 is with thee. And then to go down to Gilgal and 00:28:47.259 --> 00:28:50.380 to wait for Samuel seven days for Samuel to offer 00:28:50.380 --> 00:28:58.819 the sacrifice. Where was that? Gilgal. Chapter 00:28:58.819 --> 00:29:07.730 10 verse 8 or in Judges. That's Judges 9 .33. 00:29:08.529 --> 00:29:23.529 That was... Huh? Judges. Judges 9 .33. Now, here's 00:29:23.529 --> 00:29:28.630 Saul. The Spirit has rushed upon him. He has 00:29:28.630 --> 00:29:31.329 prophesied already. He's been given instruction 00:29:31.329 --> 00:29:33.970 to Samuel on where to go and how long to wait. 00:29:34.410 --> 00:29:38.000 He's been He's been told that he's going to defeat 00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:41.859 the Philistines. He's got everything that he 00:29:41.859 --> 00:29:45.779 needs, in other words. And yet, nothing. Now, 00:29:45.779 --> 00:29:48.920 the question is, how long did this last? How 00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:55.819 much time has lapsed in between here? That was 00:29:55.819 --> 00:30:05.160 a military instruction to Abimelech. Due as occasion. 00:30:06.099 --> 00:30:09.480 As occasion serves thee. The same instruction 00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:12.299 that's given to Saul by Samuel. Do as occasion 00:30:12.299 --> 00:30:15.180 meet me at Gilgal. The spirits come upon you. 00:30:20.660 --> 00:30:22.880 When these signs are coming to thee. That thou 00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:25.700 do as occasion serve thee. For God is with thee. 00:30:25.859 --> 00:30:28.140 So the first thing he did was he did prophesy. 00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:31.599 That was appropriate. That was right. Secondly 00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:34.490 then. He's got all these signs. The people have 00:30:34.490 --> 00:30:36.589 come out with the instruments. He's prophesied 00:30:36.589 --> 00:30:40.309 with them. And the next thing he's supposed to 00:30:40.309 --> 00:30:44.049 do, then, is go to Gilgal and defeat the Philistines. 00:30:45.549 --> 00:30:50.390 But then, in the time between that conversation 00:30:50.390 --> 00:30:53.250 that he had with Samuel, it appears that he had 00:30:53.250 --> 00:30:58.049 this fight with the Amalekites? Ammonites? What 00:30:58.049 --> 00:31:03.690 is it? Ammonites. And we've had this ceremony 00:31:03.690 --> 00:31:09.710 with Samuel and other ceremonies. So the question 00:31:09.710 --> 00:31:14.910 is, how does that, is this chronological? And 00:31:14.910 --> 00:31:18.170 it's not, I don't have a for sure answer for 00:31:18.170 --> 00:31:24.190 you tonight. But that is clearly when, in chapter 00:31:24.190 --> 00:31:28.970 13, when Samuel says that he hasn't done what 00:31:28.970 --> 00:31:41.799 he told him to do. In verse 8 of 13, and he tarried 00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:44.279 seven days at Esau according to the set time 00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:48.720 that Samuel had appointed. That's referring back 00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:52.859 to chapter 10 when Samuel told him after the 00:31:52.859 --> 00:31:55.539 spirit had rushed upon him that he was going 00:31:55.539 --> 00:31:58.720 to go to Gilgal and do whatever occasion I had 00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:00.859 with him. Wait for me for seven days and I'll 00:32:00.859 --> 00:32:03.799 offer the sacrifice. That's finally happening. 00:32:06.670 --> 00:32:12.269 So it may be that Saul just, in his state of 00:32:12.269 --> 00:32:15.589 timidity and his refusal to submit to the Lord, 00:32:15.670 --> 00:32:20.910 in his fear, whatever it is, that he just postponed 00:32:20.910 --> 00:32:22.750 what he was supposed to do. He just wouldn't 00:32:22.750 --> 00:32:26.549 do it. That's one possibility. The other possibility 00:32:26.549 --> 00:32:29.670 is that any time Saul was going to go out to 00:32:29.670 --> 00:32:32.630 battle, he was to go to Gilgal, wait for Samuel, 00:32:32.730 --> 00:32:38.069 and Samuel would offer the sacrifices. I don't 00:32:38.069 --> 00:32:41.410 have a clear -cut answer for you as to which 00:32:41.410 --> 00:32:45.410 one that is. I don't think that it matters because 00:32:45.410 --> 00:32:49.049 it doesn't affect the teaching here in the chapter. 00:32:49.190 --> 00:32:50.589 But if you're reading that and you're trying 00:32:50.589 --> 00:32:53.509 to figure out, well, how is this all going on? 00:32:53.789 --> 00:32:56.609 Then you add to that the complication of verse 00:32:56.609 --> 00:33:00.910 1 of chapter 13. In the King James I have, Saul 00:33:00.910 --> 00:33:04.049 reigned one year and when he had reigned two 00:33:04.049 --> 00:33:06.009 years over Israel. Now, who has a new American 00:33:06.009 --> 00:33:16.420 standard? Read that for us. Okay. Where do those 00:33:16.420 --> 00:33:19.940 numbers come from? Anybody got any? Is that a 00:33:19.940 --> 00:33:24.200 different text? Did somebody find a different 00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:36.400 manuscript? Okay. Okay. So let's just be clear. 00:33:37.180 --> 00:33:43.799 There is no, that's just made up. Why? I don't 00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:48.259 know. Unfortunate. What you have in the Hebrew, 00:33:49.240 --> 00:33:54.640 if there's no number, what number is it? One. 00:33:55.859 --> 00:33:58.759 Okay. So that's why the King James says one. 00:33:58.900 --> 00:34:03.440 One year. He reigned one year. Now, this is similar 00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:06.140 to, and you can turn here if you want, 2 Samuel 00:34:06.140 --> 00:34:16.059 chapter 10. No, I'm sorry. 2 Samuel chapter 2, 00:34:16.219 --> 00:34:26.719 verse 10. Ish -bosheth, Saul's son, was 40 years 00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:30.079 old when he began to reign over Israel and reigned 00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:33.710 two years. But the house of Judah followed David. 00:34:33.869 --> 00:34:41.329 And then turn to 2 Samuel chapter 5. Verse 4. 00:34:43.510 --> 00:34:46.670 David was 30 years old when he began to reign. 00:34:46.829 --> 00:34:55.530 And he reigned 40 years. So it may be that. I 00:34:55.530 --> 00:34:57.929 mean there's a couple possibilities for this 00:34:57.929 --> 00:35:03.170 one. It may be that. The author just left the 00:35:03.170 --> 00:35:05.710 number out. Didn't know how old he was when he 00:35:05.710 --> 00:35:10.750 became king. The two years over Israel is in 00:35:10.750 --> 00:35:14.769 the text. What the New American Standard Bible 00:35:14.769 --> 00:35:17.250 doesn't like is that it doesn't fit with their 00:35:17.250 --> 00:35:21.690 understanding. So they substituted 42 or 30? 00:35:22.429 --> 00:35:27.030 42. They should have just followed the... King 00:35:27.030 --> 00:35:29.550 James translator and stuck with what they had, 00:35:29.690 --> 00:35:33.090 which was two years. Is it possible that Saul 00:35:33.090 --> 00:35:40.289 only reigned two years? Yes, possible. Okay, 00:35:40.789 --> 00:35:44.630 then that's the question, isn't it? So in what 00:35:44.630 --> 00:35:48.409 sense was Saul king for longer than two years? 00:35:49.130 --> 00:35:53.090 We know that without any question. That's obvious. 00:35:53.809 --> 00:35:57.730 But he is King, we can put that in quotation 00:35:57.730 --> 00:36:01.929 marks, and he's also king legitimately. How is 00:36:01.929 --> 00:36:12.889 a person a legitimate king? Anointed by God. 00:36:13.030 --> 00:36:16.489 There cannot be a king over Israel that's not 00:36:16.489 --> 00:36:19.329 God's chosen king, or there cannot be a legitimate 00:36:19.329 --> 00:36:22.809 king over Israel who is not anointed or chosen 00:36:22.809 --> 00:36:28.400 by God. If you are king in Israel by deceit or 00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:31.300 by murder or by any other means, then you are 00:36:31.300 --> 00:36:35.460 not king in Israel. You are only king in Israel. 00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:41.420 So legitimately then, it is probable that there 00:36:41.420 --> 00:36:44.960 were two years that Saul had before God rejected 00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:48.860 him and said, I've anointed another man, a man 00:36:48.860 --> 00:36:52.360 after my own heart. The kingdom has been removed 00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:56.750 from you. And that time span is, it's not hard 00:36:56.750 --> 00:36:59.150 for us to imagine that that's two years from 00:36:59.150 --> 00:37:01.429 the time he finally accepted that he was king 00:37:01.429 --> 00:37:05.190 to the time that he was rejected by God. So I 00:37:05.190 --> 00:37:08.230 believe that that is what's going on there in 00:37:08.230 --> 00:37:11.190 verse one. What's going on with the number one? 00:37:11.250 --> 00:37:13.449 I have no idea. And neither does anybody else, 00:37:13.469 --> 00:37:17.219 whether that was, you know. some kind of scribal 00:37:17.219 --> 00:37:19.280 error along the line, whether he was going to 00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:21.360 go back and write something else in there. He 00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.800 obviously was not one year old when he began 00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:30.980 to rain. So we've done the best that we can with 00:37:30.980 --> 00:37:32.940 that. We've tried to take care of the timeline 00:37:32.940 --> 00:37:40.179 with the whole command from Samuel for him to 00:37:40.179 --> 00:37:54.179 go to Gilgal and wait for seven days. Yes? I 00:37:54.179 --> 00:37:57.840 think that what is going on there is that he 00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:00.739 really only reigned two years as king over Israel. 00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:02.980 There was only two years when he was God's anointed. 00:38:04.619 --> 00:38:09.559 Yes. And then his quote -unquote reign where 00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:14.019 he was quote -unquote king, right, was a longer 00:38:14.019 --> 00:38:17.079 amount of time. I think Josephus said it was, 00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:19.019 I think that might be where they came up with 00:38:19.019 --> 00:38:24.829 the 30 years. extra biblical sources. So we're 00:38:24.829 --> 00:38:29.469 better off to leave it as it is. Wait, so you're 00:38:29.469 --> 00:38:35.230 saying he's already rejected? Yes. Within two 00:38:35.230 --> 00:38:42.909 years. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, at the end 00:38:42.909 --> 00:38:44.630 of the chapter, God said he's taken the kingdom 00:38:44.630 --> 00:38:50.730 from him. We're going to read about that. We're 00:38:50.730 --> 00:38:52.889 going to read about God rejecting him. Well, 00:38:52.949 --> 00:38:54.190 I don't know if we're going to read about that 00:38:54.190 --> 00:39:03.769 tonight. In verse 13 of chapter 13, Samuel said 00:39:03.769 --> 00:39:06.829 to Saul, Thou hast done foolishly. What does 00:39:06.829 --> 00:39:11.050 that mean, foolishly? Does everybody have foolishly? 00:39:11.650 --> 00:39:13.510 Okay. What does that mean when you see that in 00:39:13.510 --> 00:39:26.119 your Bible? Okay. And you are a fool if you don't 00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:31.079 do what God says. And the fool can't do what 00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:35.500 God says. So when you see that word foolishly, 00:39:35.500 --> 00:39:37.940 it's not just like you've acted like, we might 00:39:37.940 --> 00:39:40.659 say you're acting a fool because you're out dancing 00:39:40.659 --> 00:39:46.639 in the rain. This is willful, purposeful rebellion 00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:51.639 against God. So because of that, Samuel says, 00:39:51.980 --> 00:39:55.579 because thou hast done foolishly, thou hast not 00:39:55.579 --> 00:39:57.940 kept the commandment of the Lord thy God, which 00:39:57.940 --> 00:40:00.480 he commanded thee, for now would the Lord have 00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:02.539 established thy kingdom upon Israel forever. 00:40:02.880 --> 00:40:06.079 That would have happened, theoretically, had 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:10.179 Saul followed God. But he didn't. So in verse 00:40:10.179 --> 00:40:13.420 14 it says, but now thy kingdom shall not continue. 00:40:13.780 --> 00:40:16.280 The Lord hath sought him a man after his own 00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:19.400 heart, and the Lord hath commanded him, to be 00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:22.460 captain over his people, because thou hast not 00:40:22.460 --> 00:40:26.079 kept that which the Lord commanded thee. So it's 00:40:26.079 --> 00:40:29.019 at that point then, and then God leaves them 00:40:29.019 --> 00:40:32.920 all together and rejects them in what, chapter 00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:36.340 15 I think it is. And then that in chapter 15 00:40:36.340 --> 00:40:43.139 is when Samuel goes and finds David with Jesse 00:40:43.139 --> 00:40:48.489 and anoints him. At that point, then, Saul is 00:40:48.489 --> 00:40:50.909 no longer God's anointed. That's why I believe 00:40:50.909 --> 00:40:54.570 that's where the two years comes in. That's the 00:40:54.570 --> 00:41:00.150 end of Saul's legitimate kingship in Israel. 00:41:03.150 --> 00:41:09.889 All right. One more interesting thing here. Let 00:41:09.889 --> 00:41:15.750 the Hebrews hear in verse 3. It's just interesting, 00:41:16.050 --> 00:41:19.889 but the Hebrews, the Israelites didn't call themselves 00:41:19.889 --> 00:41:24.309 Hebrews. Who called them Hebrews? The Egyptians. 00:41:24.630 --> 00:41:27.889 And so apparently now the Philistines are calling 00:41:27.889 --> 00:41:31.929 them Hebrews. So what you hear, when Saul blew 00:41:31.929 --> 00:41:34.570 the trumpet throughout all the land, who heard 00:41:34.570 --> 00:41:40.829 that? Okay, the Philistines. And what did the 00:41:40.829 --> 00:41:44.320 Philistines say when they heard it? Let the Hebrews 00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:49.320 hear. Then later on, I think is when they, what 00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:55.400 do they say? Lest the Hebrews make them swords 00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:58.400 or spears, for the Philistines said. So it's 00:41:58.400 --> 00:42:00.400 just interesting, you have to remember, like 00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:03.300 from whose perspective are we hearing this story? 00:42:03.500 --> 00:42:06.360 So apparently when the trumpet blew, now we're 00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:08.940 hearing it from the Philistines' perspective. 00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:14.920 They heard it. And that's what they said. And 00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:19.739 then they hear that Israel had, or that Saul 00:42:19.739 --> 00:42:23.019 had smitten a garrison of the Philistines. Now, 00:42:23.019 --> 00:42:26.599 does everybody have that in their Bibles? Garrison. 00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:36.239 Everybody does? So that's not clear either. Now, 00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:38.739 the question that might occur to you is, what 00:42:38.739 --> 00:42:43.360 do you mean it's not clear? All that I can tell 00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:46.619 you is that there has been significant progress 00:42:46.619 --> 00:42:49.780 in understanding ancient Hebrew over the years. 00:42:50.699 --> 00:42:55.199 And I think that they've gotten it right in most 00:42:55.199 --> 00:42:57.219 of the cases. Where it's a difficult passage, 00:42:57.460 --> 00:43:02.000 it may have taken time for them to get the full 00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:05.420 understanding of the word. So this word garrison, 00:43:05.579 --> 00:43:07.400 if you ever, I don't know what the Legacy Bible 00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:09.559 has. Does anybody have the English Standard? 00:43:10.960 --> 00:43:14.440 It scares him. Okay. So it could also just be 00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:19.280 like a person, like some kind of a ruler, a really 00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:23.219 prominent person. So if you hear somebody say 00:43:23.219 --> 00:43:26.820 that, again, it doesn't affect what's going on 00:43:26.820 --> 00:43:31.480 here. Jonathan goes out and causes this huge 00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:36.300 ruckus because he goes into the land of the Philistines. 00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:39.980 And either defeats and kills a whole garrison 00:43:39.980 --> 00:43:42.219 full of soldiers or he kills a very prominent 00:43:42.219 --> 00:43:46.280 person. So much so that everybody in all the 00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:49.239 Philistines, now they hold Israel in derision. 00:43:49.340 --> 00:43:54.960 They hate him. And then Saul blows the trumpet 00:43:54.960 --> 00:44:00.440 and all Israel says, Saul has defeated the Philistines. 00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:05.480 What's going on there? Anybody got any idea? 00:44:09.590 --> 00:44:13.349 Does it seem odd to anybody that the Spirit has 00:44:13.349 --> 00:44:17.030 rushed upon Saul? He's been commissioned to defeat 00:44:17.030 --> 00:44:21.550 the Philistines, and here his son is with half 00:44:21.550 --> 00:44:24.690 as many men as Saul has at his disposal, and 00:44:24.690 --> 00:44:27.409 it's Jonathan that's going forth and wreaking 00:44:27.409 --> 00:44:35.130 havoc in the land of the Philistines. What did 00:44:35.130 --> 00:44:42.559 the people want in a king? We want a king that 00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:44.679 will go out before us and judge us and fight 00:44:44.679 --> 00:44:48.260 our battles. And here immediately then we see 00:44:48.260 --> 00:44:51.300 Saul, the man that they wanted, the king that 00:44:51.300 --> 00:44:55.139 they desired, sitting back while his son goes 00:44:55.139 --> 00:45:01.800 out and starts to make war with the Philistines. 00:45:20.139 --> 00:45:24.579 I think Jonathan is a contrast to Saul in his 00:45:24.579 --> 00:45:29.599 own day. And I think it's a tragedy because if 00:45:29.599 --> 00:45:31.900 Saul had done what he was supposed to do, then 00:45:31.900 --> 00:45:35.239 Jonathan would eventually have been king. So, 00:45:35.260 --> 00:45:41.760 but it just shows, it shows though that God's 00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:44.260 way is best. So I don't think, Jonathan's a good 00:45:44.260 --> 00:45:46.400 guy. He trusts in the Lord. He goes forth in 00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:49.940 his might and he defeats. And kills and does 00:45:49.940 --> 00:45:55.340 all kinds of great things. We'll get into it 00:45:55.340 --> 00:45:58.139 later. But even then they have, you know, Saul 00:45:58.139 --> 00:46:00.539 curses anybody that eats any food. And Jonathan 00:46:00.539 --> 00:46:04.340 eats some honey. And what does Saul say? Now 00:46:04.340 --> 00:46:06.659 here's this guy that has had all kinds of victories. 00:46:06.820 --> 00:46:08.500 He's done everything he's supposed to do. And 00:46:08.500 --> 00:46:11.539 what does Saul say? If it's Jonathan, I'll kill 00:46:11.539 --> 00:46:15.380 him. His own son. Now who does that make us think 00:46:15.380 --> 00:46:22.079 back to? Who killed an offspring of their own? 00:46:23.300 --> 00:46:26.280 Jephthah. He's a judge, right? So, you know, 00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:30.940 what you see is not so much a foreshadowing of 00:46:30.940 --> 00:46:35.940 what David was going to be as just this stark 00:46:35.940 --> 00:46:40.900 contrast between the man who's king and the son 00:46:40.900 --> 00:46:46.099 who will never be king because his dad is a terrible 00:46:46.099 --> 00:46:50.000 king who doesn't follow the Lord. And yet, and 00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:56.679 still, you see that the son isn't condemned because 00:46:56.679 --> 00:47:00.420 of the father, right? They've got this terrible 00:47:00.420 --> 00:47:04.079 father, and yet you see the son trusting the 00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:09.300 Lord. So my answer would be, I don't think it's 00:47:09.300 --> 00:47:12.880 a foreshadowing, but I do think it is a man that 00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:16.159 is submitted to the Lord and going forth in his 00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:25.059 name and trying to please. His God. All right. 00:47:25.059 --> 00:47:29.699 Now, Tim, did you come up with a subject? No, 00:47:29.699 --> 00:47:34.079 not necessarily. Maybe, though. Maybe if you 00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:38.760 want to read Romans 1 through 4. Read Romans 00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:41.340 1 through 4 for next week. Tim is going to lead. 00:47:41.380 --> 00:47:44.500 I'm on vacation next week, and I forgot about 00:47:44.500 --> 00:47:46.940 it until the last minute, so I didn't give much 00:47:46.940 --> 00:47:58.289 notice. I guess we kind of talked about this 00:47:58.289 --> 00:48:01.010 with the trumpet, so I'll just make this application. 00:48:01.789 --> 00:48:05.269 I think part of the application is obvious. If 00:48:05.269 --> 00:48:07.329 you don't follow the Lord, your life is going 00:48:07.329 --> 00:48:09.889 to be miserable. You're not going to achieve 00:48:09.889 --> 00:48:15.210 what you could achieve. You're not going to be 00:48:15.210 --> 00:48:20.170 settled or content. Your life will generally 00:48:20.170 --> 00:48:23.090 be categorized as a disaster. The other thing 00:48:23.090 --> 00:48:27.130 that we ought to remember is that Jonathan went 00:48:27.130 --> 00:48:29.670 forth and it was Saul that was credited with 00:48:29.670 --> 00:48:33.230 the victory. And that's legitimate because what? 00:48:33.530 --> 00:48:37.889 When you have a king, everything that happens 00:48:37.889 --> 00:48:40.170 in his kingdom and everybody that goes forth 00:48:40.170 --> 00:48:45.170 in his name is doing his bidding. We've taken 00:48:45.170 --> 00:48:47.769 the name upon ourselves and we have a king. Who's 00:48:47.769 --> 00:48:52.030 our king? It's King Jesus. So it just occurred 00:48:52.030 --> 00:48:55.510 to me that that is the reality. When you go wherever 00:48:55.510 --> 00:49:00.409 you go, when I go anywhere, I go as a Christian 00:49:00.409 --> 00:49:03.449 and I go as an elder at Believer's Chapel. And 00:49:03.449 --> 00:49:06.070 I am mindful of that everywhere that I go because 00:49:06.070 --> 00:49:08.710 everywhere that I go that knows that, they're 00:49:08.710 --> 00:49:11.230 looking at me and they're wondering and they're 00:49:11.230 --> 00:49:13.230 judging and they're coming to certain conclusions. 00:49:13.409 --> 00:49:16.280 And so I have to be careful. I have to be careful 00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:19.960 of the way that I handle myself at work, the 00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:22.760 way that I handle myself in private, the way 00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.599 that I handle myself wherever I am. Because I've 00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:28.659 claimed the name of Christ upon me. And I've 00:49:28.659 --> 00:49:30.860 said, he's my king. And so it's legitimate for 00:49:30.860 --> 00:49:34.880 the world to look at us and say, this must be 00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:39.880 how Jesus would act. Because this, that is, David 00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:44.539 is... Jesus' servant and he's going forth and 00:49:44.539 --> 00:49:47.860 invoking Jesus' name over himself and calling 00:49:47.860 --> 00:49:51.719 himself a Christian. It's no small thing then 00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:55.239 to take that name upon yourself and to go out 00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:58.400 in the world and live and when we do that we 00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:01.039 should be mindful that it's perfectly legitimate 00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:04.699 for the world to view us and to judge us in light 00:50:04.699 --> 00:50:06.920 of the fact that we have taken his name upon 00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:13.219 us. We are representing him and it's That's why 00:50:13.219 --> 00:50:16.400 it's such a tragedy when someone who is a so 00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:18.219 -called Christian or someone who is a Christian 00:50:18.219 --> 00:50:22.500 falls away, goes their own way. Because it calls 00:50:22.500 --> 00:50:25.119 into question whether or not God is sovereign. 00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:28.579 What happened here? What's going on? This guy 00:50:28.579 --> 00:50:31.260 appeared to be this. This gal appeared to be 00:50:31.260 --> 00:50:34.340 that. And now here everything has changed. Or 00:50:34.340 --> 00:50:37.019 this person is claiming to be a Christian while 00:50:37.019 --> 00:50:40.539 at the same time stealing pens from their work. 00:50:40.599 --> 00:50:43.329 I'll never forget it. Just one more minute. When 00:50:43.329 --> 00:50:46.550 I was, I guess, this tall, and my Sunday school 00:50:46.550 --> 00:50:49.829 teacher was my aunt, who wasn't my aunt, Penny. 00:50:50.789 --> 00:50:56.010 And she was teaching us there at the Crestwood, 00:50:56.090 --> 00:50:58.070 where the Crestwood Mall used to be. It's not 00:50:58.070 --> 00:51:01.550 even there anymore. Down in the bank, down in 00:51:01.550 --> 00:51:06.449 the bank basement. And I forget what the lesson 00:51:06.449 --> 00:51:10.760 was, but she had been stealing pens. occasionally 00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:12.980 from her work, you know, and because there's 00:51:12.980 --> 00:51:14.900 boxes of them, they're all laying around and 00:51:14.900 --> 00:51:17.860 doing whatever, and she would just take one home 00:51:17.860 --> 00:51:19.760 every now and then when she needed a pen. I don't 00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:21.760 think she was like, it wasn't that she was planning 00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:26.179 this great pen heist, she just didn't, you know, 00:51:26.179 --> 00:51:28.800 bother to think that, you know, I'm taking this 00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:30.739 pen home, but I didn't buy the pen, it belongs 00:51:30.739 --> 00:51:33.019 to my employer, and the Lord convicted her of 00:51:33.019 --> 00:51:34.780 it, and so we heard about it in Sunday school. 00:51:35.900 --> 00:51:38.500 And she said she would never do that again. From 00:51:38.500 --> 00:51:42.400 now on, The paperclips, the staples, whatever 00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:45.820 is purchased by her employer was going to stay 00:51:45.820 --> 00:51:48.679 in her desk. She was never going to bring anything 00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:52.980 home. Now, that's the attitude that we ought 00:51:52.980 --> 00:51:58.019 to have. She was fearful and she was embarrassed 00:51:58.019 --> 00:52:00.639 that she was calling herself a Christian and 00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:02.739 somebody could say, well, you're a pen stealer. 00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:05.880 Now, you know, probably nobody would. But if 00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:07.980 all of her friends around her were going home 00:52:07.980 --> 00:52:10.219 with pens and the office manager was constantly 00:52:10.219 --> 00:52:13.079 having to replenish the supply of pens, then 00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:14.739 you don't want to be involved in any of that. 00:52:15.780 --> 00:52:19.320 Now that's the type of mindset that we need to 00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:22.719 have everywhere. If we're going to impact our 00:52:22.719 --> 00:52:25.320 culture, if we're going to have an impact in 00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:27.579 our places of work, if we're going to have an 00:52:27.579 --> 00:52:30.519 impact in our families, then the thing that's 00:52:30.519 --> 00:52:36.019 got to rule the day is, and I know it's... It 00:52:36.019 --> 00:52:39.539 sounds silly and it's just a slang or a slogan. 00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:43.420 But what would Jesus do? That's legitimate. I 00:52:43.420 --> 00:52:45.340 think that when people walk around and they're 00:52:45.340 --> 00:52:47.179 just kind of saying that, they don't mean it. 00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:49.840 But we ought to mean it. We ought to be the people 00:52:49.840 --> 00:52:52.659 that exemplify that, that take it seriously. 00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:55.820 I'm going to do what I believe Jesus would do. 00:52:55.980 --> 00:52:58.739 And for my Aunt Penny, that meant leaving the 00:52:58.739 --> 00:53:01.079 pens in the drawer at the end of the day. For 00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:02.760 you and for me, it's going to mean different 00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:05.050 things wherever we are. But we ought to make 00:53:05.050 --> 00:53:07.730 that personal application in our lives, in our 00:53:07.730 --> 00:53:10.570 families, in our homes. Because people are watching. 00:53:10.949 --> 00:53:12.409 And souls are at stake.