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Before we read that, is there anything, any residuals

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from chapter 8 that anybody thought about in

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the past week and wants to bring up or something

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that needs to be said that wasn't said? Alright,

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then who wants to give us our introductory summation

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of what we're reading here in chapter 9? I have

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this section going. From chapter 9 through chapter

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10, verse 16. We won't cover all that tonight,

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I don't think. But that's where the story of

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Saul's, whatever we're reading about. Who wants

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to summarize it for us? Well, Saul gets his dad's

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donkeys go missing. So Saul goes and he looks

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for the donkeys. He thinks that's what his mission

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is. He winds up with Samuel. And Samuel gives

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him some information about what's going on, what's

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going to happen. And then in chapter 10, he becomes

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a new man. The spirit rushes on him. He gets

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anointed by Samuel. He goes back home. and his

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uncle asks him what Samuel told him, and he doesn't

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tell him the whole story. So this whole section

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really is full of mystery and oddities, I guess

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you would say. And so I won't tell you everything

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that I got out of it, introductory, but hopefully

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whoever read it, You can see, I think probably

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God is the main character even in this chapter

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about Saul. One other interesting thing as we

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read through here is that this is, remember the

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people demanded a king like all the other nations.

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And so this is the story of Israel's first king,

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King Saul. What word is missing in this chapter

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and a half? King. There's no mention of a king.

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Now how can we have this Saul guy from this obscure

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Benjamite tribe, or tribe of Benjamin, and no

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mention of king? So we'll have to come up with

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an answer there. But as we read it, you'll notice

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that there's no mention of a king. So, 1 Samuel

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chapter 9 and verse 1. Now, there was a man of

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Benjamin whose name was Kish, the son of Abiel,

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the son of Zeror, the son of Bekarath, the son

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of Ephiah, a Benjamite, a mighty man of power.

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So, now the people have just demanded that God

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give him a king. If we just stopped reading there,

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what would you think? Huh? He'd be the king.

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Here's this mighty man of power, this man of

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valor and influence. We've got his whole, well,

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not his whole, but we've got a genealogy here,

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typical of Hebrew writing. But it turns out that's

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not the case. And he had a son whose name was

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Saul, a choice young man and a goodly. And there

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was not among the children of Israel a goodlier

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person than he. From his shoulders and upwards

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he was higher than any of the people. And the

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asses of Kish, Saul's father, were lost. And

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Kish said to Saul his son, Take now one of the

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servants with thee, and arise, go seek the asses.

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And he passed through Mount Ephraim, and passed

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through the land of Salisha, but they found them

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not. Then they passed through the land of Shalim,

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and there And there they were not. And he passed

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through the land of the Benjamites, but they

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found them not. And when they were come to the

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land of Zuth, Saul said to his servant that was

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with him, Come, let us return, lest my father

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leave caring for the asses and take thought for

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us. And he said to him, Behold now, there is

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in this city a man of God, and he is an honorable

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man. and all that he saith cometh surely to pass.

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Now let us go thither. Peradventure he can show

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us our way that we should go. Then said Saul

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to his servant, But behold, if we go, what shall

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we bring the man? For the bread is spent in our

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vessels, and there is not a present to bring

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to the man of God. What have we? And the servant

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answered Saul again and said, Behold, I have

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here at hand the fourth part of a shekel of silver.

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That will I give to the man of God to tell us

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our way. Before time in Israel, when a man went

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to inquire of God, thus he spoke, Come and let

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us go to the seer. For he that is now called

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a prophet was before time called a seer. Then

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said Paul to his servant, Well said, come, let

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us go. So they went unto the city where the man

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of God was. And as they went up the hill to the

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city, they found young maidens going out to draw

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water, and said unto them, Is the seer here?

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And they answered them and said, He is. Behold,

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he is before you. Make haste now, for he came

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today to the city, for there is a sacrifice of

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the people today in the high place. As soon as

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he be come into the city, ye shall straightway

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find him, before he go up to the high place to

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eat, for the people will not eat until he come.

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because he doth bless the sacrifice. And afterwards

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they eat that be bidden. Now therefore get you

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up, for about this time ye shall find him. And

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they went up into the city. And when they were

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come into the city, behold, Samuel came out against

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them, for to go up to the high place. Now the

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Lord had told Samuel in his ear a day before

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Saul came, saying, Tomorrow about this time I

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will send thee a man out of the land of Benjamin.

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and thou shalt anoint him to be captain over

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my people Israel, that he may save my people

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out of the hand of the Philistines. For I have

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looked upon my people, because their cry is come

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unto me. And when Samuel saw Saul, the Lord said

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unto him, Behold, the man whom I speak to this

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same shall reign over my people. Then Saul drew

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near to Samuel in the gate, and said, Tell me,

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I pray thee, where is the seer's house? And Samuel

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answered Saul and said, I am the seer. Go up

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before me unto the high place, for ye shall eat

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with me today, and tomorrow I will let thee go,

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and will tell thee all that is in thine heart.

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And as for thine asses that were lost three days

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ago, set not thy mind on them, for they are found.

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And on whom is all the desire of Israel? Is it

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not on thee and on thy father's house? And Saul

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answered and said, Am not I a Benjamite of the

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smallest of the tribes of Israel, and my family

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the least of all the families of the tribe of

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Benjamin? Wherefore then speakest thou so to

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me? And Samuel took Saul and his servant, and

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brought them into the parlor, and made them sit

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in the chiefest place among them that were bidden,

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which was about thirty persons. And Samuel said

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unto the cook, Bring the portion which I gave

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thee, of which I said unto thee, set it by thee.

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And the cook took up the shoulder, and that which

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was upon it, and set it before Saul. And Samuel

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said, Behold that which is left, set it before

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thee, and eat. For unto this time hath it been

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kept for thee, since I said, I have invited the

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people. So Saul did eat with Samuel that day.

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And when they were come down from the high place

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into the city, Samuel communed with Saul upon

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the top of the house. And they arose early, and

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it came to pass about the spring of the day that

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Samuel called Saul to the top of the house, saying,

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Up, that I may send thee away. And Saul arose,

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and they went out, both of them, he and Samuel,

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abroad. And as they were going down to the end

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of the city, Samuel said to Saul, Bid the servant

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pass before us. And he passed on. But stand thou

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still a while, that I may show thee the word

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of God. Then Samuel took a vial of oil, and poured

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it upon his head, and kissed him, and said, Is

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it not because the Lord hath anointed thee to

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be captain over his inheritance? When thou art

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departed from me today, then thou shalt find

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two men by Rachel's sepulcher in the border of

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Benjamin at Zelzah. And they will say unto thee,

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The asses which thou wentest to seek are found.

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And lo, thy father hath left the care of the

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asses, and sorroweth for you, saying, What shall

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I do for my son? Then shalt thou go on forward

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from thence, and thou shalt come to the plain

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of Tabor. And there shall meet thee three men

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going up to God to Bethel. one carrying three

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kids, and another carrying three loaves of bread,

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and another carrying a bottle of wine. And they

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will salute thee, and give thee two loaves of

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bread, which thou shalt receive of their hands.

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After that thou shalt come to the hill of God,

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where is the garrison of the Philistines, and

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it shall come to pass, when thou art come thither

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to the city, that thou shalt meet a company of

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prophets coming down from the high place. with

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a psaltery, and a tabret, and a pipe, and a harp

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before them, and they shall prophesy. And the

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Spirit of the Lord will come upon thee, and thou

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shalt prophesy with them, and shalt be turned

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into another man. And it shall be, when these

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signs are come unto thee, that thou do as occasion

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serve thee, for God is with thee. And thou shalt

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go down before me to Gilgal, and behold, I will

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come down unto thee to offer burnt offerings

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and to sacrifice sacrifices of peace offerings.

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Seven days shalt thou tarry till I come to thee,

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and show thee what thou shalt do. And it was

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so that when he had turned his back to go from

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Samuel, God gave him another heart, and all those

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signs came to pass that day. And when they came

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thither to the hill, behold, a company of prophets

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met him, and the Spirit of God came upon him,

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and he prophesied among them. And it came to

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pass, when all that knew him before time saw

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that, behold, he prophesied among the prophets.

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Then the people said one to another, What is

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this that has come unto the son of Kish? Is Saul

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also among the prophets? And one of the same

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place answered and said, But who is their father?

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Therefore it has become a proverb, Is Saul also

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among the prophets? And when he had made an end

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of prophesying, he came to the high place. And

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Saul's uncle said unto him and to his servant,

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Whither went ye? And he said, To seek the asses.

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And when we saw that they were nowhere, we came

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to Samuel. And Saul's uncle said, Tell me, I

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pray thee, what Samuel said unto you. And Saul

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said unto him, And Saul said unto his uncle,

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He told us plainly that the asses were found.

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But of the matter of the kingdom, whereof Samuel

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spake, he told him not. There's some odd verses

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in there, some verses that might seem a little

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bit out of place. Particularly the one that talks

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about the seer and the prophet. What did you

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guys think when you saw that verse? Why was that

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put in there? Anybody got any ideas? Who put

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that in there? Nobody? Okay, well tell me what

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you got out of it. Tell me what lessons you want

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us all to learn. He doesn't, like he gave Samuel

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a word for Saul. And he put Saul in Samuel's,

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I don't know if I'm going to say like his path,

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but they ran into each other like that was an

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accident. Okay. What do we typically call that?

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That work of God. What is it? Providence. Providence.

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So this chapter is full of just really normal

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everyday stuff. But the God who reigns above

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is working through all these seemingly ordinary

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things. The guy's donkeys go missing. Well, nobody

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would say, well, now God's getting ready to work.

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We're going to have a king here soon. Just this

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unknown guy, his donkeys go missing. But God

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who rules above and works through providence

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was the one that drove those donkeys to wherever

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they were going and hit them. and hid him from

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Saul, that's providence. So yeah, that's all

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through here. That's a good catch. What else?

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Saul is kind of a great tragedy of the Old Testament.

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He starts off with all this stuff where he's

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prophesying the spirit of God on him. and all

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this stuff, and then it turns out bad at the

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end. And so that's what sticks out to me, is

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all this, like, how does the Spirit of God come

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upon a man and make him prophesy? But it turns

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out he's not a good guy at all. That's what was

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interesting to me. Well, that was the same things

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that we encountered all through Judges, right?

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And what did we say about the Spirit coming upon

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a judge? It didn't guarantee what. I never said

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that. It didn't guarantee obedience. He said

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salvation. It didn't, well, salvation from the

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enemy, yes, because that's what the judge was

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raised up. But it didn't seem to guarantee obedience

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at all, did it? It didn't, it didn't, in other

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words, the spirit came upon those judges for

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very specific reasons and, you know. I think

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it's fair for us to say that the Spirit remained

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with them, but the Spirit didn't force them to

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obey every word of God. Are you filled with the

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Spirit? Yeah. And do you obey God in every turn?

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And do you lay that, do you charge the Holy Spirit

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with some offense in that? No. So, Saul is the

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same way. The Spirit came on him and he did disobey.

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What? Does anybody have a guess as to why is

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it that Saul couldn't get along with God? Have

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you given any thought to that? Where did Saul

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and God come to loggerheads? was when you tried

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to do things his own way instead of God's way.

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Okay. So... Is he the ultimate example of not

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God's way? I mean, right in Samuel, I mean, he's

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not, even though God sovereignly ordained him

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to become king in a sense, but it was also, like

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Brian said, I guess he was a type in picture

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of not God's way. And throughout his life he

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proved that he never wanted to do things God's

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way. Okay. I think you and Brian said very similar

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things there. Wasn't it he offered sacrifices?

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To me that was like he treated it as this isn't

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a big deal. Anybody can do this. I don't have

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to be a... priest or anything I can offer these

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sacrifices and do it myself and then afterwards

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I'm just going off memory here but I don't think

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he was that repentant about it you know like

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David messed up a few times and David was really

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broken about it and repentant and it seemed like

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in my mind Saul had more of a Okay. So, when

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we come to loggerheads with God, what are we

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saying? When we sit, if you don't like loggerheads,

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we'll say, when we sit, what are we saying? Okay,

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and what? Okay, because we reject God's authority.

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Okay, that's what Brian is talking about. That's

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what Jake is talking about. God sits as the authority

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and God says, this is what I expect from you.

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This is what you should do. If you want to worship

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me, worship me in this way. If you want to be,

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if you're going to be a father, be a father in

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this way. Whatever. Whatever part of your life,

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every part of your life, God speaks into and

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gives you direction. And when you say, well,

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like Brian said, well, I don't think this is

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a big deal. Then what you're saying is, God,

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you don't have authority in this part of my life

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to tell me what to do. I think that my way is

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pretty good. And so I'm going to do that. That

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was Saul's problem. Saul, now. Saul always thought

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that kingship meant what? A king like all the

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other nations. I'm looking out here and I'm seeing

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these kings. And I've even listened to what Samuel

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told everybody was going to be a king. Everything

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in the land belongs to me. The people belong

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to me. There's no what? There's no authority

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over me. So when you're reading through this,

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and you're studying it, one of the things that

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you're confronted with is that it doesn't seem

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that Saul is taking that kind of a dominant position

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here in this chapter from the very get -go. And

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why is that? Like Saul sits down at the prime

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place at the table. Why? Did anybody think about

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that? Why did Samuel sit him there at the head

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of the table, in the best place? What do you

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think? It wasn't because what? Okay, it wasn't

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because Saul was a head taller than everybody.

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It wasn't because he was this goodly man that

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we're told all about. It wasn't because he had

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maybe a prominent father back in the Benjamite

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territory. It was because what? God put him there.

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So what does that show? Who's in charge? Who

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has the authority? Who tells somebody to sit

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at the prime place of the table? Who? And in

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this case, he did it through the means of who?

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Samuel. So Samuel said, sit here. That was a

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word from God. That was God putting Saul right

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there at the head of the table in the prime spot.

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When he gets anointed, What did Samuel say? Was

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it Samuel that was anointing him? Mike? Who was

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anointing him? Okay, and God used Samuel with

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the anointing oil. But it was God that was doing

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the anointing. Now, who does the anointing? Okay,

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that's fine. Put it in your head. Don't forget.

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Who does the anointed? Well, do they just call

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the servant girl? Do they just call the lowest

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of the low? Hey, we're going to anoint somebody.

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Let's go out in the fields and find a field worker.

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Is that who does the anointed? Somebody with...

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Somebody with authority does the anointing. And

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who's doing the anointing? That's right, not

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Samuel, it's God. So all through this chapter,

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what you should be seeing, or what I should be

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seeing, is that there is a king over all. And

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that king, in this case, is going to name an

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earthly king to administer justice, restraint.

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among the people of Israel. But it's God who's

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ruling and reigning. Now that's, we said this

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I think last week. Essentially that was what

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the judge did. So Saul, and I think when you're

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reading this, if you remember back to what we

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read in Judges, it sounds an awful lot like a

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judge. An enemy comes up, in this case the Philistines,

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and God raises up a judge and the judge goes

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out and defeats the enemy and restores. peace

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and freedom in Israel and then the people turn

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their backs and they go their own way and it's

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a recurring cycle throughout the book that's

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what that's what's going on here so it's not

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that if there's a king then God can't be king

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over him Saul just never recognized the authority

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over him whether it came from Samuel or whether

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he recognized it as a word from God, Saul was

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a king and an authority unto himself. And so

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that, I think, as you study this and as we talk

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about it, if you remember that, it will start

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to make a little bit more sense to you. Now,

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go ahead, Jacob. What's your question? Does it

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say of any of the other judges, or of any other...

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Yeah, so what do you think that means? Don't

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know. Anybody else give any thought to that?

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Want to venture a guess or offer an opinion for

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us? Emma, you look like you're ready. Okay, that's

00:25:00.029 --> 00:25:04.069
fine. Well, one thing we have to be cautious

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of, especially when we're studying the Old Testament,

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is to read into the Old Testament New Testament

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language. So, God promises in the New Covenant

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that he's going to give all of his people a new

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heart. They're all going to know me. So, the

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question that I think is on your mind, and probably

00:25:20.509 --> 00:25:24.769
everyone else's, is this. some version of the

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new covenant before the new covenant was established.

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And so Saul was getting the new covenant treatment

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way back here in the Old Testament. Right? It

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can't be that. But I mean, that's what we tend

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to think. Is that right? Yeah, for sure. Okay,

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so it's not that. So what does the word heart

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mean in the Old Testament? So the center of his

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being, I think in the Hebrew part, could mean

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all kinds of things. But essentially, it means

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the center of a person. So something did change

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about Saul, without a doubt. Otherwise, the verse

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is meaningless. But we can't read into it that

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he was regenerated by the Holy Spirit. That would

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be to read into the Old Testament, New Testament

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language. Before we got here to Samuel, or maybe

00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:25.579
we took a break here, but we talked about change,

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right? And how does a Christian change? And what

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are the means that God gives us for change? And

00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:36.420
one of the things we noticed is that in the Old

00:26:36.420 --> 00:26:40.299
Testament, that work of the Spirit, that transforming

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work of the Spirit that's changing you and me

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progressively into to look and to act, to look...

00:26:50.509 --> 00:26:53.690
to others by our actions more and more like Jesus.

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That work didn't go on in the Old Testament.

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We don't have any, well, I guess I can't say

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that definitively. What I can say is that we're

00:27:03.329 --> 00:27:05.950
not given any evidence of it in the Scriptures.

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So maybe it happened, but it wasn't important

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enough for us to know about it, and that's fine.

00:27:10.710 --> 00:27:15.670
But I think if it was a work of the Spirit in

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the Old Testament, I think we would see evidence

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of it. Even in the life of David, we don't see,

00:27:20.410 --> 00:27:23.609
What you're seeing in the life of Saul. We see

00:27:23.609 --> 00:27:26.670
some similar things. In the life of David. He

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ends his life. In a pretty bad way. So I mean.

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And all the judges. None of them did. What we

00:27:37.670 --> 00:27:40.869
would expect them to do. So I want to be. I want

00:27:40.869 --> 00:27:42.769
to be a little bit more cautious than you are.

00:27:42.869 --> 00:27:45.549
In saying Saul is this bad guy. Or you know.

00:27:45.809 --> 00:27:51.900
Of course there's hope for Saul. I mean. Samuel

00:27:51.900 --> 00:27:56.400
mentions Jephthah, the guy that sacrifices his

00:27:56.400 --> 00:28:01.200
daughter. Jephthah is in the hall of faith in

00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:05.180
Hebrews. If there's hope for him, there's hope

00:28:05.180 --> 00:28:10.859
for Saul. Saul never did go through with killing

00:28:10.859 --> 00:28:13.420
God's anointed, David, even though he chased

00:28:13.420 --> 00:28:22.660
him down for years. Are you expecting to see

00:28:22.660 --> 00:28:26.779
Saul in heaven when you go? I refuse to pass

00:28:26.779 --> 00:28:29.700
judgment on him. I would have to say I'm not

00:28:29.700 --> 00:28:34.519
expecting it. Okay. Thankfully, it's not given

00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:38.400
to us to be the judge, the jury, and the executioner.

00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:41.839
So I'm probably a little more optimistic than

00:28:41.839 --> 00:28:48.519
your grandpa. But I'm optimistic even of all

00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:54.920
the judges. Left a legacy of chaos. Okay, what

00:28:54.920 --> 00:29:10.420
else? Yes. Yeah, I mean, he was a changed man.

00:29:11.140 --> 00:29:18.140
Remember, now, the word, I don't know what the

00:29:18.140 --> 00:29:20.140
word is in the King James about the spirit coming

00:29:20.140 --> 00:29:25.880
on you. When Samuel makes that declaration to

00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:40.440
Saul. In verse 6 of chapter 10. Yeah, so he says

00:29:40.440 --> 00:29:49.759
the Spirit will come upon him. Yeah, and then

00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:51.740
in verse 10 it says, And the Spirit of God came

00:29:51.740 --> 00:29:54.519
upon him. There's only three people in the Bible

00:29:54.519 --> 00:30:00.779
where that is said. The word literally, and probably

00:30:00.779 --> 00:30:04.200
easier, is rushed upon him. So who are those

00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:07.039
three people? Anybody know? We've already studied

00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:12.480
one of them back in... Samson is one. Saul is

00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:23.700
the second. And who's the third? David. Now,

00:30:23.799 --> 00:30:25.960
you remember what happened when the spirit rushed

00:30:25.960 --> 00:30:34.460
upon Samson. What did he do? Okay, he killed

00:30:34.460 --> 00:30:39.579
a bunch of people with what? And then he found

00:30:39.579 --> 00:30:44.019
what? A wild and roaring lion that he tore into

00:30:44.019 --> 00:30:56.430
pieces. So, what was your question? Okay. So

00:30:56.430 --> 00:30:59.109
when the spirit rushed upon Samson, he changed.

00:31:00.630 --> 00:31:04.869
Okay. He saw that lion and he tore it to shreds.

00:31:05.349 --> 00:31:09.990
Now, was that a lifetime of slow progressive

00:31:09.990 --> 00:31:12.950
change? Was that a change that lasted for the

00:31:12.950 --> 00:31:15.490
rest of his life? That's where we get into the

00:31:15.490 --> 00:31:17.450
question of whether or not we expect to see Saul

00:31:17.450 --> 00:31:21.970
in heaven. But he did change. And when Saul changed

00:31:21.970 --> 00:31:33.109
here, what did he do? He prophesied. So the change

00:31:33.109 --> 00:31:36.890
is evident, and I think it's, but some things

00:31:36.890 --> 00:31:41.809
didn't change. But there was a change that happened.

00:31:42.849 --> 00:31:45.450
What did everybody else think when it said that

00:31:45.450 --> 00:31:49.789
Samuel is going to tell them tomorrow that something

00:31:49.789 --> 00:31:54.170
else is on Saul's mind? Did you guys catch that

00:31:54.170 --> 00:32:07.509
in chapter 9? In verse 19, For ye shall eat with

00:32:07.509 --> 00:32:10.470
me today, and tomorrow I will let thee go, and

00:32:10.470 --> 00:32:12.990
I will tell thee all that is in thine heart.

00:32:13.369 --> 00:32:15.970
And as for thine asses that were lost three days

00:32:15.970 --> 00:32:18.309
ago, set not thy mind on them, they've been found.

00:32:19.089 --> 00:32:25.109
What was on Saul's mind? The donkeys? It wasn't

00:32:25.109 --> 00:32:45.829
the donkeys. Yeah, the desire of all Israel.

00:32:45.970 --> 00:32:48.849
Right. That's right after. That's in verse 20.

00:32:49.750 --> 00:32:53.430
19 and then verse 20. No, so that wasn't on his

00:32:53.430 --> 00:32:56.230
mind. But that was Samuel's answer to him in

00:32:56.230 --> 00:32:59.390
that day. What does that mean? You got any idea

00:32:59.390 --> 00:33:08.849
for us? The end of verse 20. And on whom is all

00:33:08.849 --> 00:33:13.710
the desire of Israel. Is it not on thee and on

00:33:13.710 --> 00:33:23.849
thy father's house? Did we just lose the mic

00:33:23.849 --> 00:33:33.170
again? Okay. I'll speak louder. So what does

00:33:33.170 --> 00:33:39.549
that phrase mean? So they're fixing their desire

00:33:39.549 --> 00:33:43.880
on... They're seeing Saul as the answer to their

00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:47.779
demand for a king. I think that's probably most

00:33:47.779 --> 00:33:56.980
likely what it is. So it seems peculiar, at least,

00:33:57.000 --> 00:33:59.680
that Samuel says to Saul, I'm going to tell you

00:33:59.680 --> 00:34:01.940
everything else that's on your heart, and I'm

00:34:01.940 --> 00:34:04.160
going to give you a foretaste now that all of

00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:06.299
Israel is looking to you as the answer to their

00:34:06.299 --> 00:34:10.019
demand for a king. So I'm suspecting that somewhere

00:34:10.019 --> 00:34:14.559
in Saul's heart, this idea had already come upon

00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:17.480
him that he was going to be a significant figure

00:34:17.480 --> 00:34:20.860
in the history of Israel. And he had his eye

00:34:20.860 --> 00:34:26.980
on the throne. That's my guess. And the closest

00:34:26.980 --> 00:34:30.119
thing to king that we have in this whole section

00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:32.780
that we read is when Samuel responds to his uncle

00:34:32.780 --> 00:34:39.480
and he says, All he told me about was where the

00:34:39.480 --> 00:34:42.800
lost donkeys were. But the narrator tells us

00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:44.659
he didn't tell him anything about what Samuel

00:34:44.659 --> 00:34:50.800
had told him about the kingdom. Now, so whose

00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:57.719
perspective is that from? When you're reading,

00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:03.260
you've got to know whose eyes am I seeing this

00:35:03.260 --> 00:35:07.039
thing through? And we go back and forth. At the

00:35:07.039 --> 00:35:08.880
beginning, we're seeing it through Saul's eyes.

00:35:09.159 --> 00:35:11.860
Then we're seeing it through Samuel's eyes. And

00:35:11.860 --> 00:35:14.300
then we get the chances to see it also through

00:35:14.300 --> 00:35:16.659
God's eyes. And at the end, what we're seeing

00:35:16.659 --> 00:35:21.059
is that the perspective from Saul's eyes is that

00:35:21.059 --> 00:35:23.780
he withheld from his uncle the information that

00:35:23.780 --> 00:35:26.519
he had on his heart about what was going to happen

00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:31.300
with the kingdom of Israel. So the only mention,

00:35:31.480 --> 00:35:36.170
the closest mention of king, Comes from Saul's

00:35:36.170 --> 00:35:43.989
own mind. So. I you know. Why is this all kind

00:35:43.989 --> 00:35:47.070
of like. I won't say confusing. Because I don't

00:35:47.070 --> 00:35:49.949
think it's confusing. But it's all like mysterious.

00:35:50.130 --> 00:35:57.309
And kind of. Not in black and white. Why is that?

00:35:58.929 --> 00:36:03.389
Anybody give any thought to that? Why no king?

00:36:05.050 --> 00:36:08.230
Why doesn't Samuel just come right out when Saul

00:36:08.230 --> 00:36:11.389
walks up like he did when he saw David and say,

00:36:11.449 --> 00:36:17.570
behold, the first king of Israel. Why doesn't

00:36:17.570 --> 00:36:24.929
he do that? Nobody gave him any thought to that.

00:36:27.750 --> 00:36:29.829
Well, I think there's a couple reasons. Number

00:36:29.829 --> 00:36:34.250
one, the role of a king in Israel was... What?

00:36:34.349 --> 00:36:36.650
Ill -defined? Do we want to use that terminology?

00:36:38.130 --> 00:36:41.190
I mean, we had those verses back there in Deuteronomy,

00:36:41.250 --> 00:36:45.969
and then Samuel gave instruction. We have allusions

00:36:45.969 --> 00:36:50.929
to it back even in the Garden, and then to Abraham

00:36:50.929 --> 00:36:57.510
and to Sarah. But, you know, it's yet to be defined.

00:36:57.730 --> 00:37:00.269
So what you're seeing here in these chapters

00:37:00.269 --> 00:37:04.920
is the very beginnings. of a definition of what

00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:09.460
it means to be a king in Israel. And God in his

00:37:09.460 --> 00:37:15.360
mercy and in his long suffering just gave opportunity

00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:19.199
after opportunity after opportunity to Saul to

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reckon himself to the idea that God was the king

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and he was going to mediate God's rule to the

00:37:26.699 --> 00:37:32.699
people through Saul. So that's what's going on

00:37:32.699 --> 00:37:35.559
here. The reason it isn't just come right out

00:37:35.559 --> 00:37:38.019
and said is because Saul didn't have any idea

00:37:38.019 --> 00:37:41.420
what a king was supposed to be any more than

00:37:41.420 --> 00:37:44.880
probably 99 % of the rest of the Israelites.

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There was undoubtedly a few that had remembered

00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:53.420
or oral traditions that had passed down about

00:37:53.420 --> 00:37:56.400
Deuteronomy 17 and expected that... There would

00:37:56.400 --> 00:37:58.460
be a king and that king would have the law of

00:37:58.460 --> 00:38:00.619
God on his right hand side that he had written

00:38:00.619 --> 00:38:04.199
and that everything he did he would check according

00:38:04.199 --> 00:38:07.420
to that revealed will of God as he led the people.

00:38:08.380 --> 00:38:10.579
So that's one of the reasons that it's kind of

00:38:10.579 --> 00:38:16.320
a little bit blurry and doesn't come right out.

00:38:16.380 --> 00:38:22.480
What's the other reason? I think probably because

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The people demanded it, and they demanded a king

00:38:28.849 --> 00:38:31.289
like all the other nations, and they had this

00:38:31.289 --> 00:38:33.610
idea in their head the same way that Saul did,

00:38:33.650 --> 00:38:36.650
that he was going to be the only authority. And,

00:38:36.690 --> 00:38:41.150
you know, I won't say it wasn't God's will, because

00:38:41.150 --> 00:38:43.889
we've already heard that God was providentially

00:38:43.889 --> 00:38:47.750
working to bring to pass the installation and

00:38:47.750 --> 00:38:51.329
the anointing of Saul as king in Israel. But

00:38:51.329 --> 00:38:56.440
it wasn't... God's revealed will for the people,

00:38:56.500 --> 00:38:59.599
for kingship to come about in this way. And so

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I think that's why we don't see just this overwhelming

00:39:02.619 --> 00:39:09.400
declarations of joy and glory and rejoicing that

00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:13.400
kingship had come to Israel. That's my guess.

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It's all full of mystery. Does anybody see any

00:39:18.500 --> 00:39:29.630
irony in any of this? I'm so glad you said Paul

00:39:29.630 --> 00:39:31.269
because I don't know how many times in my head

00:39:31.269 --> 00:39:53.590
I've said Paul. I mean there's nothing in there.

00:39:53.980 --> 00:39:55.860
There's nothing in the text that would lead us

00:39:55.860 --> 00:39:58.019
to believe that this was some kind of false humility.

00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:02.940
I think he probably, I mean, I think he believed

00:40:02.940 --> 00:40:11.699
it. Kish was a mighty man of influence. Oh, Kish,

00:40:11.699 --> 00:40:15.340
his father was. Yeah, but what do we know about

00:40:15.340 --> 00:40:19.440
the tribe of Benjamin? What? They're the worst.

00:40:24.480 --> 00:40:29.500
If Saul traced his lineage back, it would be,

00:40:29.579 --> 00:40:32.079
how many options would he have for a father?

00:40:34.940 --> 00:40:40.139
I think it was 50, right? There was 50 men left

00:40:40.139 --> 00:40:42.699
in Benjamin because what? Because they killed

00:40:42.699 --> 00:40:45.440
the, where was that guy from? The Ephraimite?

00:40:45.780 --> 00:40:49.719
Yeah. Remember? And then all of Israel came upon

00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:51.199
him and they killed them all. And they said,

00:40:51.219 --> 00:40:55.420
hold on a minute. We got to have 12 tribes here.

00:40:55.539 --> 00:40:57.239
And there was 50 of them left, but there was

00:40:57.239 --> 00:41:00.739
no women left. And so what was the solution?

00:41:02.559 --> 00:41:05.440
They said, sneak up that way. There's going to

00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:09.239
be a party. And you 50 guys just go in there

00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:12.780
and trick everybody and make them think that

00:41:12.780 --> 00:41:15.900
you're here for the party. And then when nobody's

00:41:15.900 --> 00:41:18.460
looking, snag you a woman and get back down there

00:41:18.460 --> 00:41:22.019
to Benjamin. Now, that's where the tribe of Benjamin

00:41:22.019 --> 00:41:28.199
came from. So, I mean, if Saul wouldn't have

00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:32.320
been a little bit like just a few hundred years

00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:34.739
ago or just a little while ago, all of Israel

00:41:34.739 --> 00:41:37.579
was against us, and it was just 50 of us. And

00:41:37.579 --> 00:41:40.800
now, yeah, we've lived there, but it's kind of

00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:43.380
easy to make money when there's only 50 of you

00:41:43.380 --> 00:41:47.860
in this big old territory. All 50 of us are landowners

00:41:47.860 --> 00:41:55.489
now. So I think it was probably legitimate. I

00:41:55.489 --> 00:41:58.449
don't see any reason for us to question it. It's

00:41:58.449 --> 00:42:00.349
the same type of declaration that we've heard

00:42:00.349 --> 00:42:08.250
from who? Not in this book necessarily, not in

00:42:08.250 --> 00:42:10.750
Samuel, but as you've read your Bible. Who else

00:42:10.750 --> 00:42:15.230
said something similar to that? Okay, and who

00:42:15.230 --> 00:42:20.599
else? Okay, so those are two pretty good. And

00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:25.139
they've said the same thing that Saul has said.

00:42:25.159 --> 00:42:27.860
It's been presented to us in the same way as

00:42:27.860 --> 00:42:31.320
Moses was. It's 802. Somebody should have hollered

00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:36.860
at him. Alright, so next week we will get further

00:42:36.860 --> 00:42:40.659
into it. So now you've got some thought. Maybe

00:42:40.659 --> 00:42:43.679
you've organized it in your mind a little bit.

00:42:43.780 --> 00:42:48.420
And then come prepared. We'll get some good application.

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answers, hopefully.
