And welcome back to the PD Football Podcast.
My name is Presh. My name is Darren. And how
are you doing today? I'm okay. Just a bit fatigued.
Didn't get much sleep yesterday and then went
straight to work. But I'm good. I'm good. I'm
feeling okay. How's everything on your end? I'm
feeling great. The new trailer for Dune 3 dropped
this week and it's got my blood pumping. You
just read the audiobook? Yes, I did read the
audiobook a few weeks ago. Now I'm just hyped
for the new... The movie. The movie, yes. It's
based on the second Dune book, Dune Messiah,
which I've never read. And I was thinking, should
I read it? Or, you know, listen to the audiobook,
not read. But I don't want to spoil it for myself
before I get to the movie. To the movie, yeah.
There wasn't, like, I mean, I guess you said
with the first Dune or whatever. I mean, I know
there's two movies so far. But you said the book
so far added a lot of context, so wouldn't you
want to watch the movie with that context? Not
if it spoils the movie. Oh, so it would still
be a spoiler. I'll listen to the audiobook after
I watch the movie to get that extra context.
And I also have to say that the movies are way
different than the books. Yeah, that's what I
was saying. The director's taken his own liberties
and made his own thing. Yeah, so then would it
really be a spoiler? Oh, how hard. Because, so
this is the thing. In the book, Paul sees, well,
he sees lots of visions of the future, but he
sees one view or one path that he can't see the
end of. Yeah. One of the markers on that path
is that he kills Baron Harkonnen. I know this
means nothing to you. Yeah, I mean... Right.
But one of the things on the path is that he
kills this guy, Baron Harkonnen. And we see in
the movie that he kills Baron Harkonnen. So we're
on the path that Paul couldn't see. Oh, okay.
So what's happening in the movie is totally unrelated
to the book. But it's obviously inspired by.
So I don't want to read it and then... You just
want to avoid the possibility of any spoilers.
I just... Even now, having read the audiobook
or listened to the audiobook, I feel like I know
too much about the next one. So that's why I'm
just trying to keep myself... Trying to rein
it in a bit. Keep myself pure. Don't want to
get these spoilers on me. But anyway, how about
you? Anything that you're excited by at the moment?
Like culturally? Nothing that I can really think
of. Any music maybe? I know you're much more
of a music guy. A music guy, yeah. I mean, I
haven't kept up with what's coming out or whatever.
I've been listening to a lot of music on my end,
like some 80s gangster rap, Mac Dre. I've been
listening to a lot of Mac Dre, actually. That's
probably like 80 % of my playlist right now.
Other than that, I'm just focused on getting
money right now. I haven't had much time to consume
movies or series. Suddenly, there's a new season
of the TV show Invincible. I'm pretty sure you've
never watched it. I've heard about it. A lot
of people, I mean, it's one of my girlfriend's
favorite shows, the animation, right? Yeah. You'd
probably fuck with it if you saw it. But the
episodes are like 40 minutes long and there's
four seasons now. So it would take quite a while
for you, I think, to catch up. I mean, I just
don't have the time. That's what I'm saying.
But if you had the time, I think you would fuck
with it. I would. But I also haven't had the
time to watch it. It came out two days ago. I
mean, if we do a cultural review podcast, it
would probably be better in December because
we both have more. time off that's true and well
we've spoken about this many times but the the
oscar play movies come out in december that's
the the height of cultural you know importance
in the film world so december would be a good
time if we were to branch out out of football
and speak about other topics maybe we'll do that
someday but this is a football podcast so let's
get into it manchester city one real madrid two
Real Madrid go through 5 -1 on aggregate. Yeah,
I mean, this is completely what I expected. Yeah,
so I think when we first, when the fixtures were
released, I recall us having a bit of a disagreement
on you thought Man City would get through comfortably
and I thought Real Madrid would get through comfortably.
Yeah, I mean, I think they'd risk the team for
the big moments. It's not to say how far they
will go, but I just felt like they would handle
this moment better than Man City and especially
Vinicius. I'm pretty sure last week you said
they'd win it. Hey? No, I didn't say... You said
they'd win it and then Abeloa would be called
a genius, even though... No, that's not my...
I've always said Barcelona is my favorite. Still,
Barcelona is my favorite. It's not about favorites,
it's about who you think is going to win. Barcelona.
I've always said Barcelona. I said from that
side of the draw, I'd favor Madrid to get to
the final, but... Alright, fair enough. But the
points you were making? Yeah, I think, again,
I think it's just what I expected coming into
it. I think I was always sceptical of Man City's
form, especially with the amount of chances they
were conceding, I would think, against a better
opposition. As I said, there was a possibility
of them being thrashed and it's not surprising.
So, yeah, I think the scoreline perhaps flatters
Real Madrid a bit, but that's what... what i
thought as well that they could get out played
and still win by thrashing scoreline you know
it is incredibly shocking to me because i thought
madrid were much worse than both uh before the
the tie and currently i think they're worse than
what the result shows yeah but they've been in
this position before and won the champions league
that's what i've said and i'm saying this is
not the team of 2017. you know they have the
name but they don't have the players and If they
do win the Champions League, fair play to them,
but I just don't think so. I think a bigger team,
not a bigger team, a better team will show them
how it is really. City aren't that team, fortunately.
And they're going to play Bayern Munich, who
you also don't, right? So one of them will be
in the semi -finals. Well, I rate Bayern higher
than this Madrid team. But I mean, I said one
of them would get to the semis. That's all I
said in our initial predictions that I think
they're both better than you say they are. All
right. So City made four changes to the team
that drew 1 -1 with West Ham and changed shape
from a 4 -1 -3 -2 to a regular 4 -3 -3. Ruben
Diaz came in for Mark Weahy. Unclear why. Doku
and Cherki came in on the wings for O 'Reilly
and Semenyo. That makes perfect sense. Doku was
the chief creator for the team, and he did quite
a good job. And then, due to the shape change,
Reinders came in for Mamoosh. Now, I don't know
Madrid's team well enough to talk about it, so
we're just going to leave that portion out. I
started the game late, and the first thing I
see is Bernardo Silva handling the ball on the
line and being sent off, which... You know, that's
the stupidest red card to receive because you'd
rather just give the goal away than concede a
penalty and lose a man. To make this even worse,
Bernardo is your captain and most experienced
player. Yeah, I mean, it was very immature from
him. I honestly don't know what he was thinking.
Like, obviously, it's like an instinctive...
Yeah, like he couldn't... stop himself from doing
it but still like I mean I guess the only time
where that has ever worked out was Suarez in
the against Ghana unfortunately but yeah and
Vinicius converts the penalty using the stutter
technique which once again I need to say I don't
like it's unfair to the goalkeeper trying to
save the goal Despite being a man down, City
are still creating great chances. But so are
Madrid. It's a very open game. Both teams getting
decent chances. It's more that City are kind
of camped in Madrid's half and Madrid are countering.
So a very fun game. They haven't struggled with
creating chances. My qualm with them was always
that they're leaking chances. And the chances
that they are conceding are very, very high x3
chances in every game almost. So that was my
only critique of them. I still think... For me,
if they're two or three signings away with Guardiola,
I still think they'll be ahead of us next season.
I'm not doubting them. I just think in current
form, I would say... But they're at least slightly
off it defensively to at least be in the absolute
bracket that they've been in the last five or
ten years, should we say. Well, City eventually
make use of one of these chances where Doku beats
Thiago Putak and puts in a cross that is scrappily
finished off by Haaland. He reads some milestone.
I can't remember what the commentator said. Oh,
it's his first goal in five games. No, no, but
I think... He did, I think he got 50 Champions
League goals. No, no, that's Salah. Oh, that
was Salah, okay. Yeah. But you're right, there
was a milestone related to goal scoring. He overtook
somebody in City's history, some guy from the
60s, but that's not what I was thinking about.
I was thinking about the first goal in five games.
Oh, okay. Which is not what you would associate
with Haaland. That would be his second goal in
a lot more than that, I think, because he'd had
one in like 12 or something, right? Yeah. That's
not what we would associate with Haaland, especially
with the chances that City create. You don't
think that their starting striker would have
such a drought. Yeah, I mean, I guess at this
point, it's also a bit of the same situation.
I mean, we'll talk about it later that Saka's
in at Arsenal. I guess it's like he's a club
legend. So I guess in a weird way, I wouldn't
say Saka's on the same level as Haaland. He hasn't
won anything yet. I'm just saying that. affinity.
Well, both of them. I don't think Haaland is
a club legend for City either. I would say, I
mean, like, I think you can have, like, if you
look at Van Persie, okay, maybe not a legend,
like, a greatest of all time legend, but Van
Persie is still considered a Man United legend
by a lot of their fans, even though he had only
one good season. I think Haaland had a season
where... They won the treble. They won the treble.
I mean, I would say De Bruyne is the main player,
but his numbers were ridiculous that season,
so... I think we've spoken about this, right?
Holland. didn't make City better. I cannot recall
off the top of my head, but City scored a number
of goals. And then the next season when Haaland
came in, they scored roughly the same amount
of goals. I agree. What changed was it was Sterling,
it was Mahrez, it was, you know, multiple players
getting these goals. What changed was it was
only Haaland that was scoring these goals. Yeah.
And he got an inflated goal tally because of
that. And now it seems as if though he made them
infinitely better. If you think about it, he
didn't score in the semis or the final of the
Champions League. Yeah, I don't think he necessarily
made them infinitely better, but I think he reduced
it to, like, maybe in the biggest games or biggest
competitions, he reduced the game to Marjolins
where, I guess, De Bruyne could swing it in their
favour, as opposed to... like you said before,
Sterling or Mahrez, who weren't as consistent.
Maybe they might show up in the big games more
than Haaland, but I guess in the other games,
if you look at going out to Lyon before that,
going out to... Monaco. It wasn't necessarily
big teams. They generally managed the big teams
well. I thought you were going to say Spurs.
Also Spurs. That's such a slam dunk for you to
get one on Spurs and you just missed it. Also
going out but at the time Spurs were one of the
best teams in Europe so it's not like they went
out to a bad Spurs but they were better than
Spurs at the time. I think The doom and gloom
around City is a bit of an over -projection,
but I think Holland is probably, the club is
giving him the respect they think he deserves.
Whether he deserves it or not is another question,
but I guess statistically that season and the
season after, what he did still stands on its
own as far as a Premier League striker is concerned.
No one's come close in terms of numbers. Whether
it's in the big games or not, I think that's
a separate issue, but I think it's more like
the club. Feeling like they owe him a bit of
let's play him back into form. Okay. Yeah. So
at halftime, Gueye and Nathan Ake come on for
Ruben Diaz and Tiani Reinders. And City change
to a back three. Very odd decision in my point
of view from Guardiola. Not like you can see
it working. I mean, he's done it before. Against
you guys. I don't recall that. But I take your
word for it. Yeah. But what I did see here is
that... he went to a back three so he could throw
everyone forward and then the back three will
deal with counters but then in that like He only
did it for about 10 -15 minutes. In that small
portion of time, Madrid went through them a few
times. So, clearly a mistake. I think the last
time he did it was something similar because
I recall it was a game they played against you
guys, if I'm not mistaken, where Mahrez missed
a penalty in the dying seconds and it was 0 -0.
But I think in the first half, you guys were
just opening them up time and time again. In
the second half, he switched to a back three.
But in that game, it actually worked out because
they... They managed to reduce the chances. I
think the game finished 0 -0 in the end. I must
have missed this game. Yeah, I think Morris missed
the penalty in like the 97th or 96th minute.
Then I definitely missed this game. Yeah, that
was the season you guys won the Champions League.
2019. I think so, yes. All right. Listen, even
if I watched that match in HD, I would not remember
it. It's been seven years. I just remember it
so clearly because in the interview after that,
that was when Guardiola said that's the first
time he's felt that he had to park the bus in
his career. Oh, wow. That was the match because
I was very much like a detractor of Jurgen Klopp
just because of my affinity to Guardiola. the
rivalry at the time. I was a teenager, so I took
it too emotional. When Guardiola himself said
it, that's when I became a fan of Klopp, you
know. You needed the co -sign. Yeah. Okay. Also
at halftime, on the Madrid side of things, Lunen
comes on for Courtois. I'm not sure if this was
an injury. I assume it has to be an injury if
you replace your goalkeeper or, you know, perhaps
Courtois had like a, it's just like a, I saw
something that said he's going to be out for
two weeks, so it could be... Yeah, it could be
like one of those that it's like, it's not bad,
but like you don't want to, you just want to
be... I mean, he is the most important player.
You want to take precautions with him. Yeah.
So yeah, that could be the case. The dynamic
of the first half continues with City trying
to break down Madrid and Madrid playing on the
counter. But both teams getting chances with
City just shading it for me. None of the changes
have had a tangible difference. And in fact,
after about 15 minutes, Pep changes shape again.
And Lunen does a decent job of saving the shots
at him. So, Nuri hauls down Mbappe in the area,
but no penalty given. I agree with the no penalty
given. I thought, like, it wasn't strong enough
for him to go down. You know, again, that's one
of the ones that are up to interpretation. So,
you know... I'm fine to just disagree with the
referee or... Actually, no, I'm agreeing with
the referee. I'm fine to agree with the referee
or disagree, but it's just up to your interpretation.
Yeah, I mean, it's like one of those ones where
if he had given the penalty, you'd also have
been like... Fair enough. Because he was holding
on to him. I just don't think the contact was
enough. But that's my opinion. Anything else
you want to say about that particular incident?
No, nothing else. I think I agree with you on
that. Vinicius scores a late goal to seal it.
A cross from number 14. I'm not sure who that
was. Doesn't matter who it was. I think it was
Goulet, but I'm not 100 % sure. And that brings
me to saying Adegule had a very good game. I'm
not usually a fan of him, but apparently he also
had a good game against Elche on the weekend.
So perhaps he's coming into himself. I've read,
I mean, like one of my friends who's a Madrid
fan, and I've also read from like some Madrid
accounts that he's been... played a little bit
deeper, more of an eight or like a controlling
midfielder which suited his game. Are you sure
that's not from before? It might have been from
before, but I think... Because I think that's
what Alonso was doing with him and now... He's
been plagued a little bit further forward so
that he, you know, where he's more comfortable.
Yeah, because the clips I saw of him, he was
more in the left half spaces and slightly deeper,
which he usually plays on the right when he's
in the 10. So maybe switching him over to the
left helped. That's exactly where he was, the
left half space. Yeah, so I mean... I guess he's
usually in the right half spaces. Maybe Arbeloa
sees something from the left half space. I haven't
watched much of Goulet recently. He played in
Venice a few times. I was very impressed. He
reminds me a lot, not just obviously because
he's Turkish, but he has a lot of similar traits
to Ozil. I think he fades in and out of games,
but when he comes in, he can do amazing things.
But we'll see where he develops. I'm not exactly
sure what to think of him because I haven't watched
much of him, honestly, to know whether he's better
deeper or whether he's better forward. I mean,
I think he's a bit like Odegaard right now. I've
seen opinions going both ways that, oh, get him
closer to goal and opinions, oh, get him deeper
so he can break the press more. Yeah, I mean,
let's see. I wish him the best. He seems to be
a good footballer to watch, though. Alexander
-Arnold was once again the worst player on the
pitch. virtually non -existent defensively and
added very little attacking wise he did have
one corner where too many headed it at the keeper
but it was saved quite easily so once again it's
not me picking on him because i have some sort
of vendetta or whatever that's just if you just
sit down and watch him you you'll just feel disgusted
by how poor he really is. And perhaps it's just
because I've always had, like, biased glasses
on, and now that I've taken the biased glasses
off, I see him as he really is, but he's really
poor. And I know you were telling me when I said
this about him the other day that... He's a guy
for the moments. He's not going to be 100 % every
minute of every game in the action, but he'll
pick his moments and in those moments he'll deliver
something really good. And I've just not seen
that in the past, let's say a couple of weeks
since he's been back from injury. I mean, I don't
know. I haven't watched him much, but I've seen
Madrid fans who are happy with him. That's all
I can say. I think, what is it? There's a guy
on Twitter, RM14, one of the coaches I follow
or something. He seems very happy with, I respect
his opinion a lot. So he seems very happy with
Trent's playing out. I think he put up a bunch
of stats of how many times Trent broke the press
as well. So I think he's improving. He's coming
back from injury. I still think he's my favorite
fullback in the world. So we'll just agree to
disagree. We watched the highlights together
just now, right? and we saw every attack coming
in from cities left. Why do you think that was?
That's always been the case. I mean, you can
target Alexander -Arnold. I think there's always
players who get targeted. Dani Alves got targeted
at Barcelona as well. If you go watch Pep's boss,
all the attacks would come down the right -hand
side. But he was still the best full -back in
the world for most people. So because Dani Alves
was good, because Marcelo was good, that automatically
means this guy is good because he doesn't defend.
I think, yeah, he falls into the same bracket.
He gives you enough going forward. So I think
take the liberties. if you believe there's enough
liberties. I think just put him next to some
good centre -halves and that's pretty much covered
up. No, it's not. He needs another midfielder
to also cover for him. Valverde was playing kind
of a wing -back and Trent was playing as a right
-hand -sided centre -back. That's how much Valverde
was doing to help him. If Valverde doesn't mind
doing that, then that's okay. You have a player
like that. Valverde went to the Madrid management
and complained that he was being played at right
-back. He wanted to be played. Yeah, but that's
when he was playing as a right back. But, I mean,
if he doesn't mind covering him out of possession...
He's a de facto right back now. All he's doing
is, you know, going deep and... But that's out
of possession. If he doesn't mind, he's not complaining.
His form's improved, so he seems to be happy.
Yeah. Overall, it was a fun game, but if Kompany
is a serious manager, then this Madrid team will
be put to the sword. That's all I'm hoping for,
because fuck Madrid. Yeah, anything else you
want to add to that? Well, I just hope you guys
beat PS3, so someone that you hate is getting
to the final. Oh my god. Yeah, that would be...
That would be awful. Imagine if we made the Champions
League final. I would be raging. I'd be so pissed
off. Imagine. And imagine if we won it. I would
be so mad. I would actually... I think you guys
have a good record against us in Barcelona, so...
Okay, Barcelona 7, Newcastle 2. Barcelona go
through 8 -3 on aggregate. I think I predicted
10 -2. I don't recall that. Yeah, I think that's
what I also told my brother. I expect us to be
5 -1 both legs, but I was close enough, you know.
Once again, I don't know Barcelona's team well
enough to talk about their starting 11. But for
Newcastle, Eddie Howe made five changes, with
Dan Byrne in for Sven Botman, Kieran Trippier
in for Livramento, Tanali came in for Willock,
Joe Linton in for Valtamada, and Anthony Lange
in for Jacob Murphy, and then a change of shape
from a 4 -2 -3 -1 to a 4 -3 -3. So in this game,
there's not really patterns of play to talk about,
but I will say this. Barcelona's pressing was
incredibly high and aggressive. I haven't seen
crazy pressing like this in quite some time,
and Newcastle weren't sitting off either. They
were also pressing high and keeping a high line.
What a fun match to watch, but because there
was a goal every 10 minutes or so, I think we're
just going to be talking about individual moments,
not the, you know... Yeah, I mean, I think for
three quarters of the tie, it was evenly matched,
and then Barcelona just blew them away. That's
what, I mean, that's why I think Barcelona are
the best team in the world because, like, I think
they have the two best players in the world,
in my opinion, in Pedri and Jamal. And if they
click the way they did yesterday, I just don't
see how anyone stops them. They'll do that against
every team. Just like PSG lost. Yeah, well, we'll
get to it. We'll get to the second half and I'll
make a point then. But let's just go through
the individual moments in the first half. And
it was a great goal for Barcelona after just
six minutes. Lamine turns Malik Chow in midfield.
So what I noticed was the Newcastle defenders
kept getting drawn into midfield, causing a big
gap. And then the Barcelona runners would get
into that gap. I mean, I think something Flick
probably identified quickly was that they were
kind of tagging Amal. They were double -teaming
him everywhere. So he just... moved Jamal around
the pitch to create space everywhere but wherever
Jamal went he almost always took two players
with him and he almost always beat them so that
left like acres of space for Barcelona to exploit
in other areas I think I was very smart from
Hansi Flick because You couldn't really pin down
a position of Jamal in yesterday's game. I think
he was everywhere. He was. I agree with that.
So Lamine turns Malik Chow in midfield and Rafinha
and Fermin Lopez exchange passes. And then Rafinha
finishes it off. 1 -0 to Barcelona. Anything
you want to say about that first goal? No, I
mean, just a classic Hansi Flick goal in a lot
of ways. So, yeah, pretty much nothing else to
add. Then Newcastle catch them out on the counter.
Anthony Gordon plays a beauty of a pass and Anthony
Alanga scores. the Anthony connection oh it was
it was Lewis Hall who crossed no no no Gordon
oh was it Gordon I thought it was Lewis Hall
he used his weak foot to I thought I heard the
commentator say Hall but yeah it was it was a
good goal also Hall was for the second goal oh
okay I mean I think oh no no okay sorry no no
no carry on Yeah, I think it was a good goal
either way. I think the good cross. In a way,
it's also a very common goal for a Hansi Flick
team to concede. I think if you even go back
to his Bayern team, if you break the press, there's
a lot of space to exploit. I think they just
bet on the fact that even if they concede, they'll
score again, you know. So then Mark Burnell scores
from a set piece. Newcastle switch off and Dan
Byrne plays everyone onside. What happens is
he sits back while everyone goes up. So he is
shouting and he's angry at everyone else for
going up while he stood back because now he played
everyone else onside. So that's why Barcelona
scored. Just poor organization. The coaches need
to have a look at themselves. Yeah, I mean, it's
like, I guess with Eddie Howe, it's like, where
do you stand on him? It's something, I think
he's trying to evolve. I think also maybe how
far can he evolve in the Newcastle job? I think
he seems to overthink a lot of moments, but I
think that's normal as well when you're trying
to get... Yeah, because, well, we've been speaking
about this Newcastle team and how they're not
pressing anymore. And this game, it's like they've
been saving up their energy to press in this
game. And it was the wrong team. I mean, I think
if there's any team you don't want to press high
with all 11 men pitched in their half all the
time, it's a Hansi Flick team, you know. I think
he just relies on teams sitting low in a way.
Because if they sit low... he kind of dominates
position he can impose his high line but he wants
he wants teams to attack him you know the minute
you you you press him i think uh even with his
first season at bayern i think they they kind
of flew under the radar every team pressed them
high and they just almost thrashed everyone you
know except the final was a close game but i
think everything else they just destroyed them
and i think the same thing will be true of barcelona
so i think if Anyone has the nerve to press Hansi
Flick high, they're probably going to experience
the same. I wouldn't be surprised, you know.
So Labine tries a backheel in his own half, but
it gets cut out by Lewis Hall, who flicks it
to Harvey Barnes. Harvey Barnes then crosses
it for Ilanga to score his second goal. It's
actually missed by like three Barcelona players
and three Newcastle players. And right at the
back post, Ilanga is the only one who slots it
in. Poor awareness from Cancelo to allow Ilanga
a free shot, in my opinion. He was, he just,
like, his head was not in the game. Like, he
just watched him do it. I mean, also, you know,
Cancelo probably falls into the same mold as
Trent for me, I think. It's a give and take,
you know. You take the bad so you get the good,
you know. Both of them are washed, in my opinion.
Like, if this were 2018, I'd be like, yeah. I
think Cancelo is washed, yeah. But I think as
a player, he falls into the same bracket. Well,
Trench is also washed, in my opinion. But yeah,
Trippier holds Rafinha and gives away a penalty.
Once again, I didn't think it was a penalty.
I thought it was very weak from Rafinha. Again,
the same as the other one. If it's given, you
understand it. If it's not, you're also like...
Maybe I'm just thinking things should be more
physical and more like a higher tolerance for
a penalty because the two we've spoken about
have been very... Yeah, it's just like one of
those things you can't exactly complain about
it because if you go read the rules of the game...
Yeah, there was contact in the box. Whatever
the ref would have said, they would have agreed
with, whether it was minimal contact or maximum
contact. That's true. So it's halftime, and this
is probably the game of the season. I start texting
my brother and my two cousins, hey, put on this
game. It's going crazy right now. And, oh, sorry,
Lameen converts. I forgot to mention that. It's
3 -2 at halftime. Both teams playing high -intensity,
counter -attacking football. But at the beginning
of the second half, Barcelona start to slow down
the game and play possession -based football,
which is not what I associate with them. But
this leads to four unanswered goals. So it looks
like a genius bit of management from Ansi Flick,
you know, to go possession -based rather than
continue what was happening in the first half.
Because even though they were winning 3 -2, Newcastle
were very much still in the game and in the tie.
A change of tactics is what... I mean, he played
into the strengths of his players, you know,
so... So, Barcelona just play a 1 -2 and Tonali
doesn't track the man and Firmin Lopez slots
home. It's 4 -2 after... Very early after the
break. Yeah, I mean, I think after the fourth
goal, Barcelona began... to, you know, just,
I guess, dominate every, like, facet of the game,
like, kind of blow Newcastle. Newcastle started
making a lot of errors as well. The moment started
getting to them, I think. And, yeah, I think
Lewandowski came in, put in a classic striker's
performance for about 30 minutes. I think that
showed the importance of experience in these
moments as well and being able to deal with the
pressure, you know. It's interesting you bring
it up because the next goal is from him. He headers
home from a corner and that's when I thought
it's probably over now. 5 -2. 5 -2, 6 -3 on aggregate.
Dan Byrne comes to confront Lamine in midfield
in an almost carbon copy of an earlier goal.
He gets beaten and now there's a big gap in the
back line which Lamine exploits to pass in Lewandowski
who scores. I can't remember which one, if it
was the first or second, but... Very similar
to what happened. A defender goes out to midfield
to meet Lamine. He does them in, plays in the
other player. They score. They just got caught
in their own, in Barcelona's little trap. I think
with both Lamine and Pedri, the difficult thing
is like, oh, okay. If you double mark them, they
can kind of just eliminate those players from
the game. And if you give them the space, they
can use it just as well. So it's a dilemma that
I think every coach who comes up against Barcelona,
if they're in form, is going to have to face.
It's like, how do you stop those two players?
Because I can empathize with Newcastle a bit.
When I watched Lamin yesterday, I thought he
was completely unplayable. I don't see... how
they could have stopped him like what could they
have done to their structure they were really
good for three quarters of the tie and i think
it just took him and pedry 45 minutes to completely
destroy them you know in terms of control and
just shift the momentum of the game to where
it looks like newcastle were never in it you
know Okay. Lastly, Jacob Ramsey slips and passes
it straight to Rafinha, who finishes well. 7
-2. And yeah, that's all the notes I have. That's
the game. Yeah. So there was just one small tactical
tweak in the second half that just took it out
of Newcastle's hands completely. And I agree
with what you say. No, no, no. I take that back.
I think PSG are still stronger, but Barcelona
are very good. I agree that PSG could be a more
well -rounded team. My argument is that those
two specific players... I'm saying even in attack,
I think PSG are better, but we can just agree
to disagree about that. Anything else you want
to mention about this game before we move on?
No, that's it. Yeah, nothing really to say in
a 7 -2. You're like, yeah, the one team was better
than the other. Liverpool 4, Galatasaray 0. Liverpool
go through 4 -1 on aggregate. This is the biggest
shock of the round to me. I mean, I expected
it, honestly. Okay, you can just look at the
name and be like, okay, Liverpool is a bigger
team than Galatasaray. They should go through.
No, but Galatasaray are awful away from home.
In the Champions League particularly. I think
they've lost almost every game away from home.
But 4 -0. And okay, never mind the scoreline.
The performance was pathetic. Yeah, they were
shocking. I think the defending was some of the
worst I've seen this whole Champions League campaign
from any team. I just don't know what happened
to the team from last week that covered their
bases, that made it very difficult to play through.
They were so open. I have no idea what switches
off in their mind when they go to a different
stadium. I wonder. I wonder. Or what switches
on when they're at their stadium. I think the
fans, you know. It could also be that the opposition
becomes easier to play against because they're
intimidated by the fans, you know. Another thing
is their fans were banned from the game last
night. So it was 100 % Liverpool. Contingent.
Yeah. So that could have definitely played a
part that they have no fans there. But still,
4 -0 was a very... I mean, their fans are banned
off their own behavior, so it's... Gotcha. So
in defense, Konate and Kirkees came in for Gomez
and Robertson. Then in attack, Slott replaced
Rio and Gamoa and Gakpo with Salah and Ekotike.
So by the way, Gakpo not starting and we scored
four goals. Kalemi shocked. He's the biggest
culprit in stopping all our attacks. Didn't stop
an attack when he was benched. I'm shocked. I
didn't know this could happen. Maybe Scott was
saving the squad for the Champions League run.
This guy. He made a mistake. I'm sure he played
Gakpo like too much now. And the medical people
told him, just give him a rest this one game.
And he did. And now he doesn't know what to do.
Now he's going to win the Champions League and
get a contract extension. Even if he wins the
Champions League, he needs to go. No one's sacking
a Champions League winner. Chelsea did. Into
the draw. I mean, no one's going to sack him
after the season. Both Di Matteo and Tuchel got
sacked mid -season. Whatever the case is, you
can't continue. A few luckier results aren't
going to change the patterns of play, the negativity
in the squad, the negativity in the stadium.
But a Champions League victory will change the
mood for a long time. Liverpool tried the PSG
kick -off routine, which is just to boot it as
close to the corner flag as possible, just to
gain more territory rather than possession. which
is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen
in my life. They clearly take it from rugby,
but in rugby the rules are different. I truly
don't see the gain from this. You'd rather keep
the ball, let players go forward, and then just
play a ball over the top where a player can actually
try to win it instead of just booting it out.
I think what Luis Enrique's argument was that
his team's strongest suit is their counter -pressing.
So he pushes them up and then counter -presses
them in the final third? As quickly as possible
to psychologically intimidate the opponents,
I guess. It's working. Even if it doesn't necessarily
work in the moment, I think the idea that, oh,
these guys are going to press us right from the
start can throw some players off psychologically.
So either that was a PSG kick -off routine or
just a massive fuck -up, which... Imagine! i
mean nobody's expecting it i would say is your
guys counter pressing your strong suit where
that tactic would make sense i don't know now
here's the interesting thing i don't know why
but this is the game we decided to press in and
i have a theory but uh who knows right jamie
carragher on whatever channel he's on i'm not
sure i saw this in the low pool subreddit so
that's why i'm saying i didn't watch it on tv
i just saw the clip he was telling honest lot
We don't press enough. From last season where
we pressed quite a bit to now, it's been a big
drop off. And I don't complain about this because
he's going towards possession -based football.
Obviously, if you're playing possession -based
football, you're not going to be pressing too
much. You can combine the two and play possession
-based with some pressing in moments. And that's
what he did last season. And that's what I thought
was a very good blend of possession -based and
pressing. And that's how he won the league, right?
Yeah. And for whatever reason, Slott just watches
that, I assume as well, and decides, okay, we're
going to start pressing. Maybe it is. And yeah,
so I don't know if he's like Donald Trump, who
just, he believes everything he sees on TV. So
on Slott, he just, we need to put on like...
Lots of coaching stuff. On Fox News. Yeah, on
Fox News. Unbeknown to. On the slot. We'll make
him a better coach. We need to hypnotize him
into dropping Gakpo. Oh, yeah. Just get Guardiola
to make comments about him every week. This Gakpo
guy is pretty good. Next thing on the slot, what
is he trying to do to me? Let me drop him. Yes,
that's what we need. whatever Jamie Carragher
says apparently this guy just starts to do and
uh now like I said I think personally it's a
good mixture to both press and be possession
based but that's not what he's shown he wants
to do so I don't know what this is is this a
turning point where we're changing our entire
structure to be more more pressing based uh going
forward or I have no idea what this augers but
I mean, maybe he's just playing into the current
squad dynamics. I think maybe he was at the start
of the season, like you said, trying to move
to a more positional game, but I think he's probably
still now in the position where maybe he realizes,
okay... But why this game? Why not, like, the
Premier League game the week before to test it
out and then... I think because coaches are stubborn.
They will stick to their principles as far as
they can until they're being withered down and
then eventually... I think maybe, let's hypothetically
say, Onslaught is a good coach who can take a
tactical interpretation and coach it well. But
he becomes stubborn behind an idea that made
him win something. Maybe he doesn't see it specifically
as, oh, it was the individual brilliance of Salah
last season. Maybe he thinks it was my coaching.
that won us the league. Well, I would say it's
50 -50. Yeah, either way, maybe he doesn't see
it as 50 -50. Maybe he sees it as like, oh, I
got the most out of Salah. My system did everything.
That's a good argument. Yeah, it could be. You
would know better than me. That was Salah's best
season in terms of return. Yeah, I mean, you
would know better than me, but then even within
that, like you said, if there's no player who's
giving those returns, you would have to adapt
the system. So I think... Someone like Arteta
who probably we had two seasons ago or three
seasons ago and two seasons ago our system was
heavily based on counter pressing, you know,
I think That's what he saw is maybe the the kryptonite
to Guardiola's Man City because of how you guys
had been the biggest competitors I think now
He's found a different way. He's found a different
way. So I think that a coach has to play into
the strengths of their players. I think that's
what maybe Slott has taken a bit longer to do.
But if he hypothetically, let's say, like you
said, is an elite coach based off of last season's
performance, then if he has a blueprint he can
follow, perhaps he can do something special till
the end of the season. All right, so let's just
get into some individual moments. The first goal
was a routine set piece and Sabozlai saws. Yeah,
I mean, again, Sabozlai was sensational, if anything.
If you, like, there's a man free and he's running
onto the ball and you don't place a player there
or, you know, attempt to stop him, then you're
going to concede. Yeah. I don't know what to
say about that. Then Salah has a penalty save,
but to be fair, I didn't think it was a penalty.
I thought Dominic Sabotislai just dived and he
conned the referee. I mean, I didn't notice that,
but... Like he was already going down. The angle
I saw it looked like a penalty. He was already
going down before the contact came. So it's one
of those ones where I think they just... he pulled
the wool over the referee's eyes i guess it's
a bit of he was the best player on the field
by a long way so it's just a bit of a blight
on the on the performance but if this were the
champions league final and we won 1 -0 because
of that i wouldn't be complaining yeah but in
a game like this i can say uh you know it's poor
play we shouldn't be doing this in the future
yeah i mean with a lot of i guess in in a weird
way recent years a lot of the the the absolute
best players in the game. It is something they
do a lot. I think outside of maybe Messi, if
you look at any of the greatest players in recent
times, from Henry till now, they love to dive.
Suarez, big diver. Yeah, Neymar, Cristiano Ronaldo,
Gareth Bale. So then at halftime, I went to cook.
And when I got back, it was 3 -0. The match graphics
said that the goals were scored by Eketike and
Gravenberg, but they didn't show the replay for
those goals. And I found the highlights package
now, and both goals were assisted by Salah. Well,
if you count a blocked shot as an assist, then
two assists. I think it counts on fantasy, but
it doesn't count as an assist. That's why, yes,
I know. I'm counting it because of fantasy. So
it's good to bounce back from that missed penalty
by assisting too. Like, you always got to keep
your head up, even if you're having a bad game.
And just keep trying stuff, keep trying stuff.
And this is actually why I said, if we're forced
to play one of Salah and Gakpo, I would choose
Salah. Because he actually has a creative bag.
He has options that he can access. Now, he hasn't
been making the best choices, but in a game like
this, you see in individual moments, he can actually
pull something out of a bag, you know? I mean,
I'm sure you'll talk about it now, but the fourth
goal was also just... It's a typical Mo Salah
goal, but by any other player's standards, it's
a sensational goal. He rifled it into the left
-hand side corner. The first touch was also incredible,
the way he set himself up. They call it a Salah
special, but he's only scored a handful of them.
I would think slotting it past the keeper is
his most often finish. I'd say if any player
made that a specialty, it's probably Messi, but
obviously... That's what I'm saying. I don't
consider... Salah has scored a handful of goals,
like let's say between 5 and 10. That's not a
specialty. Or Robben. Maybe people are talking
of him like he's Robben. Yeah. Like Robben did
that. Like a Gatpo. Gatpo only has one thing.
Every goal of his will be that thing. Salah has
so many... a breadth and depth worth of... finishing
shots that i don't think you could call this
a salah special but we're just getting bogged
down in nonsense i mean it's a good sign though
i think uh like it's hard to judge because it
was galatasaray i think uh that's the thing as
well so i don't want to take away too many big
ideas from this because the opposition was so
poor i mean now you guys come up against the
best team in the world officially so we will
see we'll see that will be the ultimate test
i guess right now you know the last thing i want
to say is that florian verts was poor again and
this is what we would call an everyone eats game.
Why do we call it everyone eats? Because everyone
gets a goal or an assist. And he, I think he
did get the assist for the Salah goal. But it
was because it was like, he's the last touch.
It wasn't a incredible pass to play in Salah.
He just happened to be the last touch. And I
just, I'm very frustrated with Virts at the moment.
I spoke about him in the previous episode, but
I just wanted to say again that You can argue
he's just coming back from injury, blah, blah,
blah. But what he's shown hasn't been good recently.
Yeah, I mean... Anything else you want to say
about this game? No, not really. I would have
probably said the same things of Wurz. I mean,
it's just, you know, he has moments where he
can deceive the eye. A bit like, I guess you
could say someone... Like, again, like... I think
Ozil, in his peak, was one of the best players
in the world. But I don't think he particularly
suited the Premier League. Like, I understood
fully why Arteta got rid of him because centring
a team around him was going to have a ceiling
in a league as physical as the Premier League
that perhaps you could get to the Champions League
but no further, you know. So I think Vert seems
to be falling in the same brackets. Like, I think
he has a lot of magic and that deceives people
because... If he has a shit game and does something
from nothing. Like with Salah, okay, he can have
a crap game. But the things he does, like you
said, it's a goal, it's an assist. Whereas Wurzel
maybe disappears and then for 10 minutes he's
dribbling, he's passing, he's creating. But nothing
of real substance when compared to someone like
Salah who can drift out of a game. Even like
Gareth Bale, just pop up with two goals, two
assists. So yeah, I would agree with your comments
on him. That's all I have to add. But I would
think at the same time... People need to also
remember that he is a young player. I think the
way people criticize him, that's always what
I'll come back to. He's still someone who doesn't
lose his own price tag. I think critique him,
yes, but people going on, the things you see
online, I don't think they justify it. A lot
of the ways, the insults people throw at him.
i think uh for someone who's just in their first
season doesn't make a lot of sense even if you
think he's not gonna see it he's not he's he
he's not worth the money you know oh so so sorry
yeah i i thought you were gonna say that even
if he's not gonna see it saying like ugly things
you know reflects poorly on you yeah i mean this
guy has a family yeah like other people could
see it that are close to him and it's a online
harassment or online negativity can be a A very
powerful thing. Yeah, and he's, what, 22? For
me, it's still, like, Chris out of being a kid,
you know? So what's the joy you get from insulting
a person who's in their youth, you know? I think
it's also kind of like, okay, we're doing content
by making a podcast, but there's other people
who, like, just do it for attention, you know?
Like, they... They want to be the guy who's best
at swearing. Insulting a player. Insulting. There's
even, like, fan channels that are centered around,
like, attacking their own players. Like, Arsenal
Fan TV for a while was, like, just... They were
profiting off the negativity, you know? Yes,
exactly. And I, you know, fair enough, make football
content, but don't... Like, do negative things
with what... Actually, you know what? What am
I saying? Do negative things. Who gives a fuck?
I'm not the chairman of podcasting to tell people
what to do. But to me, it's not a good thing.
That's what I think. I think it's counterintuitive
to think that you'll get the best out of a player.
Like, critique them. Tell them what they did
wrong. Fine. Tell them you expect better out
of them. You can even be harsh. Like, I don't
think... on slot or even if Jurgen Klopp was
there I don't think they're going to be telling
him he had a bad game in terms that are things
we could repeat online they're obviously going
to lash into him but they're not going to tell
him oh you're useless you hope you never play
again they never want to see you in the shirt
again you know it's like if he had done something
disrespectful towards liverpool i'd understand
you know like i mean because just being poor
isn't enough to yeah i mean like louis suarez
he did amazing things but he tried to force a
move to arsenal people got over that quickly
you know like whether like i understand it was
related to his performances but in that moment
of him like trying to put in the transfer request
and force the move to us. I didn't see anyone
saying these things that they're saying about
Virts who's actually trying, you know. Yeah,
we're done here. Yeah. Now we're going to the
miscellaneous section and we're starting with
Sporting Lisbon 5, Bodo Globno, Sporting Progress
5 -3 on aggregate. I mean... That was the only,
I saw the word remontada being thrown around
a lot. And that was probably the one game where
people didn't expect it, but it happened. So
kudos to Sporting. I watched the game. I was
really impressed with them. So when we were talking
about, when we covered Inter versus Bodo, I'm
not sure if you were here, but I said I wasn't
impressed with Bodo Glimt. People were talking
about them like they're this incredible team
that plays fluid football, but they were really
just parking the bus and countering very effectively.
And that's precisely what they did in this game.
But Sporting didn't break them down with incredible
forward play and creativity. The first goal was
a set piece. The second goal was a counter. The
third goal was a penalty. The fourth goal was
a second phase of a set piece. And the final
goal was a counter. It was amateurish mistakes
from the team parking the bus, not exceptional
play from them. When I did watch the game, Sporting
did play well as well. I think they continuously
opened them up. So maybe they forced the advantage
to set pieces where it's more play, but I think
there was a lot of poor finishing from Sporting's
side where they could have... Okay, I'm only
talking from the point of view of highlights.
So if you have more... yeah in -depth thoughts
to share can you please uh yeah i did watch this
game i thought sporting were terrific like i
think from the first minute they they were the
open play from set pieces i think they were just
completely dominant i didn't expect it i was
uh probably the last time uh i think last season
they got to the quarters as well right uh with
them or the season before but uh they weren't
as that this performance was like uh I haven't
watched them much, so I don't know what to compare
them to. I know they're second in the Portuguese
Liga or whatever, but they put in... I think
they forced the issue. A lot of teams that went
down to Bodo, I think this season, well, in the
loss against Dortmund, right? No, who did Bodo
beat? Inter. Inter, yes, against Inter, sorry.
Sporting forced the issue. They were also down
and out, and they kind of came out and played
in a way... people would have expected a team
like Inter to play you know so I was impressed
by them I don't know all the players I know they
have a guy called Luis Suarez as well who was
very good yeah you scored a penalty yeah but
I mean he was very good in open play I thought
his some of his dribbling was very good I think
Trincao he didn't make it at Barcelona but he
seems to be doing well at sporting so I was impressed
with them I think in the long run For Arsenal,
as an Arsenal fan, I think both teams would have
kind of been the same test because they play
in the same way. But Sporting were really impressive
in the way they traced that game and turned it
around. Right. Are we done yet? Yeah. Chelsea
0, PSG 3. PSG go through 8 -2 on the aggregate.
Close game. Rosinho, you almost made it. You
know, on LinkedIn, he'll say, we almost beat
a super team. I mean, maybe he should have huddled
around the roof again. Yeah, for good luck. The
first goal was a Chelsea mistake, which Kvicak
Farid Scalias finished off. It's so stupid that
we didn't go in for him. Not just us, any of
the big English teams. He was only 60 million
euros, which is... In the current market, basically
dirt cheap for the quality that he is. Yeah,
I mean, I think... I know you said don't talk
about Wurz's price tag, but Wurz costs almost
double what... No, you can talk about the price
tag. I think Chris don't pin it on Wurz. Yeah,
but Farid Skellier cost half of what Wurz did.
And he is, I don't want to say double the player,
but a better player, in my opinion. He is a better
player, definitely. But I think as well, he,
again... from what I've understood from PSG fans,
is that he's not the most consistent player.
He pitchers up in practically all the big moments.
I'm fine with that. Yeah, but I think you need
the consistency around it. That's like a money.
Yes, I agree with that. You need a money. That's
exactly the point I was going to make. We need
somebody for the big moments, and that's somebody
we don't have. Maybe Sabaslay. Yeah, I think
you would need someone for the... I think Eketike
is going to be a big player moment for me, honestly,
a big moments player. So I think you could have
that already and I think you could get the consistency
from Isak. I don't think the attacking dynamics
are really what you... I mean, you said it last
week, it's the defence and the midfield that
need shaping and I think in attack you guys will
be fine. Barkola, a player who should be available,
another one I think it would be stupid for...
any of the big six to just let him go by. But
I heard he unfortunately picked up a bad injury
now. I think he's out for the rest of the season.
Oh, shit. Damn, I didn't hear about that. And
he's missing the World Cup as well. Sad news,
but... That's very shit. Yes. That's not a good
thing. But yeah, Vakola scores a screamer from
the edge of the box. And then later on in the
game, Meulu scores an almost carbon copy of that
goal to finish the game 3 -0. So this is the
type of game to make me doubt Enrique as a coach.
PSG didn't break Chelsea down. They scored screamers.
Even in the first leg, though, I think six of
their goals were wonder goals. But that's what
I'm saying. It makes me wonder if he can only
do it with a super team. And I was saying I would
like for Enrique to come to Liverpool, but if
he came to Liverpool, he wouldn't have a super
team. He'd have a good squad. He'd have a squad
that can maybe challenge for the league, but...
uh a super team is we're nowhere near that so
you know can he take a good team and change them
into a super dynamics i think he'd be working
with i think he would suit manchester city more
okay fair enough i just i'm just looking at the
options that are out there and i think he would
be one of the best ones but i'm not sure how
he would deal with substand players because i
remember at roma he didn't do very well Yeah,
I mean, like you said, Tuchel might be available.
And I think Inzaghi also, from what I've read,
is not happy in Saudi Arabia. So those could
be two options that are good at getting the most
out of... Like, at the end of the day, Man City
is going to be the standard, I think. As long
as Pep's there and he has a budget that has no
ends, I think everyone's going to have to kind
of compete with them, you know. So I think...
you guys have probably tried the approach I mean
we've seen even Barcelona go for the approach
when Real Madrid were dominating of okay we're
going to keep up with them by trying to sign
superstars and it doesn't always work you know
so maybe it's better to get a coach who works
with what they have internally like a Tuco or
like a Inzaghi that can I guess get the most
out of players maybe find the gems within the
system like the Liverpool way I guess if that
if culture matters to you or clubs historical
culture matters to you i would have agreed with
that argument like like if i'm talking from an
arsenal perspective but at the same time i think
sometimes the culture needs to be shifted you
know like i've seen arteta change the brand and
now it seems to be more effective something that's
working better in the modern game than the way
vengo is trying to compete you know arsenal to
buy a lever who's it no arsenal go through three
one on aggregate i mean yeah it was uh like this
uh I think this game was probably one of our
best performances of the season for me. I was
impressed, particularly with Eze and Rice. Yeah,
the two gold scorers. But aside from that, what
else do you want to say about them? I mean, I
think Eze, obviously, Eze is looking like he
might be that difference maker we need in terms
of taking the risks in the final third. He was
in the left half spaces a lot, not yet on the
left wing where I want him, but he was occupying
the spaces I wanted him to occupy a lot, and
Trossard was drifting in. So I was very happy.
This was one of my favorite Arsenal performances
of the season, honestly. I think the link -up
play between Jokiris and Saka was also really
impressive in moments. I think Declan Rice was
the best player on the field again. Almost every
Arsenal game, he seems to be the best player
on the field. He also scored a wonder goal. We
scored two wonder goals ourselves. I don't know.
I'd say the Eze goal was a wonder goal. Rice,
it was just a well -placed tradition. Yeah, I
mean, not a wonder goal, but I'd say the technique
on it was very difficult. The Tony Cruz goal.
I mean, there's nothing more. I think it was
almost a perfect midfield performance from Declan
Rice. I think he maybe misplaced one or two passes,
but that was it. I think we're peaking at the
right time of the season. I'm still extremely
scared of Barcelona. I still think they'll beat
us, but I wish they were on the other side of
the draw. I hope the Hoodoo Atletico has over
them. Atletico can take them out and then I'd
be pretty comfortable with us getting to the
final. Where you'll meet us. Yeah. A PD football
podcast. Final. That would be crazy, but I don't...
I don't see us getting to the final if Barcelona
meets us. But I'm happy with the performance.
I think we're peaking at the right time. I think
we'll probably get the Premier League. I hope
we'll get the Carabao Cup as well. Why not four?
No, I think we can. We can get all four. I'm
not saying that rudely. I'm saying that like,
why not? My heart says we want all four, but
my head says Barcelona are better than us. All
right. Spurs 3, Atletico Madrid 2. Atletico advanced
7 -5 on aggregate. I couldn't find a highlights
package for this game, so I can't speak about
it. But looking at the team sheets, both teams
were relatively strong. So I assume that this
was a good match. Yeah, I mean, I didn't watch
this game. I mean, I thought it was dead. I guess
Tottenham kind of made something of it. Kudos
to them. 7 -5 doesn't look so bad. Yeah, hopefully
they stay up. I mean, if they're picking up some
form. Like, if you think about it, the goalkeeper
slipped twice. and van der veer i read that four
of their goals came from individual areas so
i'm just saying those three were like particularly
bad and people are actually saying that atletico
madrid's pitch is like very poor and some people
are saying it's intentionally poor to you know
up other people i've heard i've heard that from
i heard that from barcelona fans when they lost
in the cup forno as well but i mean you know
in that moment it sounded like an excuse to me
but if it keeps happening where like players
keep slipping and sliding on their pitch. You
begin to wonder. It's one of those things that's
hard to dread because it looks so nice. On the
TV, their pitch looks like one of the best. You
can't tell from home. You need to be there. I
guess we trust the players on this, but at the
end of the day, I think... If the refs, if the
committees judge the pitch to be fair, then both
teams are playing on the same pitch. Both teams
have practiced on the pitch. But if you're used
to it... Yeah, I mean, it's... But that argument
can always be made. Then what do you say? Okay,
the Emirates atmosphere isn't like Anfield, so
you guys have something we don't. Yeah, but changing
the pitch, that's an, you know... I don't think
they're necessarily changing the pitch. I think...
No, but that's the accusation. Yeah, but I don't
think they would be doing that. I think it's
probably just something where Simeone is more
like, just keep the pitch as it is, don't plant
new grass, don't make it flat, don't make it
easier for our competitors, you know. Alright,
anything else you want to say about that? No,
I mean, I'm happy Atletico got through, because
I believe they can beat Barcelona. But I don't
think they will. Bayern Munich 4, Atalanta 1.
Bayern progress 10 -2 on aggregate. So again,
I couldn't find the highlights package for this
either. Who was the last team Bayern beat 10
-2 on aggregate? Us. Are you sure? Yeah. I thought
it was 8 -2. No, they beat us 5 -1 away. No,
they beat Barcelona 8 -2 in one game. They beat
us 10 -2 two seasons in a row. Oh shit, 5 -1
Norman away. I think there was a 5 -1 and a 5
-1. Then there was a 5 -2 and a 5 -0. I don't
remember, but I remember we played them four
games. I don't know if it was, I think it was
from the Yip Hankers era going over to the Guardiola
era and the score. And they gave guiding. I think
the score was 24 in four games. We've been there.
We know the bad side of Bayern Munich, you know.
I can empathize with Atalanta. But like I said,
if Vincent Kompany is a top manager that I hear
he is, he's going to eat this Madrid team for
breakfast. I mean, I rate him highly. I also
think they'll get undone by PSG in the semis,
but could go either way, you know. PSG in the
semis? Wow. I'm expecting PSB to beat you guys.
Wow. Are you expecting any difference? Not wow.
You're saying wow when you have the exact same
expectation. It doesn't matter what I believe.
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