WEBVTT 00:00:00.110 --> 00:00:03.049 And welcome back to the P .D. Football Podcast. 00:00:03.270 --> 00:00:06.129 My name is Presh. My name is Darren. And how 00:00:06.129 --> 00:00:08.529 are you doing today? I'm good, I'm good. At least, 00:00:08.710 --> 00:00:11.710 uh, fatigued. How's everything on your end? I 00:00:11.710 --> 00:00:14.609 see. My cousin was on the podcast last week and 00:00:14.609 --> 00:00:16.589 he made a joke. He's like, ask him how you're 00:00:16.589 --> 00:00:22.890 doing. He's like, work fatigue. But yeah, I watched 00:00:22.890 --> 00:00:26.289 Avatar again, myself. For the, how many times 00:00:26.289 --> 00:00:29.609 now? The fourth time. In the movies. Yeah. i 00:00:29.609 --> 00:00:33.170 uh i'm just such a big fan you know an avatar 00:00:33.170 --> 00:00:35.450 movie being in theaters it just it comes out 00:00:35.450 --> 00:00:39.030 once in a while and it's a it's a well if you 00:00:39.030 --> 00:00:42.090 think about it big jim said work started on the 00:00:42.090 --> 00:00:46.869 first one in 1996 so 30 years three movies 10 00:00:46.869 --> 00:00:50.450 years per movie it's more more rare than two 00:00:50.450 --> 00:00:55.549 world cups Something every 10 years. That's something 00:00:55.549 --> 00:00:59.170 to get excited for in my mind. But not everyone 00:00:59.170 --> 00:01:01.549 is. Well, the thing is, it's the highest grossing 00:01:01.549 --> 00:01:04.030 movie of all time. The first one. And the second 00:01:04.030 --> 00:01:05.989 one is the third highest grossing movie of all 00:01:05.989 --> 00:01:08.629 time. So clearly it connects with people. A lot 00:01:08.629 --> 00:01:12.170 of people. And I guess it super connects with 00:01:12.170 --> 00:01:14.370 people like me who go back time and time again 00:01:14.370 --> 00:01:17.450 to... And just watch it over and over. Yeah. 00:01:17.689 --> 00:01:20.109 Like it's a comfort kind of thing that like... 00:01:21.150 --> 00:01:24.290 In 2009, there was something called Avatar Depression. 00:01:24.730 --> 00:01:28.590 Or 2010, I should say. No, I've never heard of 00:01:28.590 --> 00:01:31.430 that. People were so sad that they couldn't live 00:01:31.430 --> 00:01:35.569 in Pandora, the world inside Avatar, that they 00:01:35.569 --> 00:01:38.769 got depressed about it. It was a worldwide phenomenon. 00:01:39.569 --> 00:01:42.409 Articles were written about it. That really sounds 00:01:42.409 --> 00:01:45.209 like a dumb thing to get depressed over. Also, 00:01:45.609 --> 00:01:48.709 kind of the point of Avatar is that the world... 00:01:48.989 --> 00:01:52.349 Our world, Earth, is Pandora. It's a metaphor. 00:01:52.909 --> 00:02:00.310 But... Anyway. So, unfortunately, this is probably 00:02:00.310 --> 00:02:03.209 going to be a quick show. I only had time to 00:02:03.209 --> 00:02:06.469 watch one match and... Oh, well, one match properly 00:02:06.469 --> 00:02:09.270 and to analyze it. And the rest will have to 00:02:09.270 --> 00:02:11.830 be looked through the lens of highlights. Yeah, 00:02:11.830 --> 00:02:14.770 I mean, I think I also watched, like, one and 00:02:14.770 --> 00:02:19.210 a half, two games. So yeah, probably the most 00:02:19.210 --> 00:02:22.610 professional podcast on the waves right now, 00:02:22.650 --> 00:02:25.650 I think. Yeah, probably. Who's doing it like 00:02:25.650 --> 00:02:31.030 us? Who's doing it at this level? Yeah, not to 00:02:31.030 --> 00:02:34.590 make any excuses, but there's a lot of things 00:02:34.590 --> 00:02:37.689 happening in life, you know, so you can't always 00:02:37.689 --> 00:02:41.430 get the priority. For me, at least. So we're 00:02:41.430 --> 00:02:44.669 going to start with Newcastle 1, Barcelona 1. 00:02:46.100 --> 00:02:48.639 and Newcastle made three changes to the team 00:02:48.639 --> 00:02:51.500 that lost to Man City in the FA Cup, with Dan 00:02:51.500 --> 00:02:54.819 Byrne in for Sven Bottmann, Jacob Ramsey in for 00:02:54.819 --> 00:02:57.759 Joe Willock, Joe Linton in for Nick Voltemoder, 00:02:57.919 --> 00:03:00.860 and with a change of shape into a 4 -3 -3 instead 00:03:00.860 --> 00:03:04.300 of the 4 -2 -3 -1 that they were playing. Anthony 00:03:04.300 --> 00:03:07.000 Gordon apparently was not feeling well and missed 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:09.199 the training session that morning, so he didn't 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:13.060 start. Which I think is a big blow. He's the 00:03:13.060 --> 00:03:16.219 highest scoring player this season. So, you know, 00:03:16.219 --> 00:03:18.819 not ideal to lose him. Not the ideal circumstances. 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:22.740 Yes, but instead Will Osula got a chance in the 00:03:22.740 --> 00:03:25.759 lineup. Which, you know, good for him. But how 00:03:25.759 --> 00:03:30.360 does Woltemar feel? How does Johan Wisse feel? 00:03:30.900 --> 00:03:33.400 You know, the two guys that were brought in for 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:36.400 big money this season. Yeah, I mean, you know. 00:03:38.030 --> 00:03:39.990 Their performances have improved, so I guess 00:03:39.990 --> 00:03:43.689 they've got to fight for their place. So, I don't 00:03:43.689 --> 00:03:47.370 know Barcelona's starting XI well enough to comment 00:03:47.370 --> 00:03:51.110 on it. I've been meaning to confront you this 00:03:51.110 --> 00:03:52.969 past couple of episodes, but you haven't been 00:03:52.969 --> 00:03:56.610 on. Yes, about Eddie Howe's high press. Yes, 00:03:56.669 --> 00:03:59.069 Eddie Howe has abandoned the high line, or the 00:03:59.069 --> 00:04:01.150 high press, I should say, the high aggressive 00:04:01.150 --> 00:04:04.169 press that he's been linked with for many years. 00:04:04.550 --> 00:04:07.689 That's a good sign. I just offered it as a critique 00:04:07.689 --> 00:04:09.550 if he's changed his coaching. I haven't been 00:04:09.550 --> 00:04:12.289 watching much Newcastle games, so kudos to him 00:04:12.289 --> 00:04:15.810 if he's defending better. I don't know, because 00:04:15.810 --> 00:04:18.990 the thing is, has it worked? He lost against 00:04:18.990 --> 00:04:21.910 Man City, he did beat Man United, and then he 00:04:21.910 --> 00:04:24.949 lost to City in the FA Cup. So, so far, mixed 00:04:24.949 --> 00:04:27.910 results. Mixed results, I mean. And he lost to 00:04:27.910 --> 00:04:30.790 Everton as well. Okay, then I guess it hasn't 00:04:30.790 --> 00:04:33.769 been a good change, but at least he's maybe showing 00:04:33.769 --> 00:04:36.970 some adaptability. I just think it's more sustainable 00:04:36.970 --> 00:04:41.069 to play in a position -based as well. He isn't 00:04:41.069 --> 00:04:43.149 playing position -based, but I'm saying instead 00:04:43.149 --> 00:04:45.089 of very aggressively high -pressing, because 00:04:45.089 --> 00:04:48.689 that takes so much energy and so much, you know... 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:52.300 Focus, it's very difficult to play like that 00:04:52.300 --> 00:04:57.220 for the entire season. And Klopp and the Liverpool 00:04:57.220 --> 00:05:00.540 team of the past showed how close you can get, 00:05:00.660 --> 00:05:04.060 but every time it wasn't enough. It never beat 00:05:04.060 --> 00:05:07.420 a possession -based system. Yeah, I mean, I guess 00:05:07.420 --> 00:05:12.339 it's a style of football that is commonly associated 00:05:12.339 --> 00:05:14.540 with the Premier League, with England in general, 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:17.620 I guess. So I guess Eddie Howe has his own philosophy. 00:05:18.629 --> 00:05:22.769 And yeah, but I'm saying I just don't think it's 00:05:22.769 --> 00:05:25.029 sustainable. So it's good that he's changed plans. 00:05:25.209 --> 00:05:30.709 But I do think it should be scenario based. So 00:05:30.709 --> 00:05:32.670 sometimes it's good to press high. Sometimes 00:05:32.670 --> 00:05:34.709 it's good to play on the counter. Sometimes it's 00:05:34.709 --> 00:05:38.089 good to, you know, you know, you should have 00:05:38.089 --> 00:05:43.029 or rather your gameplay should be a toolbox so 00:05:43.029 --> 00:05:46.089 that in every game you use the correct tool for 00:05:46.089 --> 00:05:49.699 the correct puzzle. or the correct thing you 00:05:49.699 --> 00:05:53.100 want to do. So in terms of gameplay, Newcastle 00:05:53.100 --> 00:05:55.740 went direct to try to exploit the Barcelona high 00:05:55.740 --> 00:05:58.680 line. Plenty of balls over the top for the wingers 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:01.819 to run onto, Ilanga and Harvey Barnes, which 00:06:01.819 --> 00:06:05.579 in the first, like, maybe 20 minutes, they tried 00:06:05.579 --> 00:06:08.240 it at least three or four times. So it was a 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:13.120 very clear game plan for them to go after that 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:16.019 high line. They did press a little bit. Well, 00:06:16.160 --> 00:06:19.319 not press. when it's called defending in the 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:22.160 mid block right so when like when it gets to 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:24.120 newcastle's midfield that's when they apply the 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:27.139 pressure yeah but it's not the same as a high 00:06:27.139 --> 00:06:30.540 press it's it's applying pressure and high press 00:06:30.540 --> 00:06:32.399 are two different things uh yeah i mean a high 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:35.160 press is usually triggered off the opponent's 00:06:35.160 --> 00:06:38.740 mistake or yeah well this this is them moving 00:06:38.740 --> 00:06:41.170 into a zone And I thought it was the perfect 00:06:41.170 --> 00:06:43.790 start from Newcastle. They didn't let Barca settle 00:06:43.790 --> 00:06:47.029 at all. And for the first 20 minutes, they didn't 00:06:47.029 --> 00:06:49.089 have a single shot and had very little possession. 00:06:49.689 --> 00:06:53.050 And according to you, Barcelona are the best 00:06:53.050 --> 00:06:55.589 team in the world. So to do that to the best 00:06:55.589 --> 00:06:58.240 team in the world, I think that's a... a very 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:00.680 good sign you know that Newcastle were really 00:07:00.680 --> 00:07:04.019 up for it I mean Newcastle they have I think 00:07:04.019 --> 00:07:06.000 they're putting good performances against everyone 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:09.139 we know they're capable of it I think it's not 00:07:09.139 --> 00:07:12.139 exactly surprising I guess the main thing the 00:07:12.139 --> 00:07:14.879 question has always been consistency from them 00:07:14.879 --> 00:07:17.439 you know if they can consistently beat the bigger 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:21.060 teams I guess so that's how the first half was 00:07:21.060 --> 00:07:23.970 kind of characterized But when Barcelona did 00:07:23.970 --> 00:07:26.589 get the ball, roughly after the 20th minute until 00:07:26.589 --> 00:07:28.990 the end of the half, it became a little bit more 00:07:28.990 --> 00:07:32.410 50 -50. Barcelona were very poor going forward. 00:07:32.949 --> 00:07:34.970 Yeah, I think Hansi Flick mentioned he wasn't 00:07:34.970 --> 00:07:38.009 happy with the in -possession play at all. So 00:07:38.009 --> 00:07:40.649 I think a lot of things, a lot of misplaced passes. 00:07:40.970 --> 00:07:43.730 So in the last five minutes or so, it just became 00:07:43.730 --> 00:07:45.910 end -to -end. But there was no cut and thrust 00:07:45.910 --> 00:07:49.430 from either team. Barcelona actually, I was surprised 00:07:49.430 --> 00:07:52.439 with how well they actually... defended for a 00:07:52.439 --> 00:07:54.939 team that doesn't usually defend because I think 00:07:54.939 --> 00:07:57.980 they allowed Newcastle a lot of chances but I 00:07:57.980 --> 00:08:00.279 think besides the goal maybe there was only one 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:03.800 or two clear -cut chances so I think they also 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:05.800 used the mid -block it was also something new 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:08.759 from Hansi Flick I guess both teams were playing 00:08:08.759 --> 00:08:13.060 for to still be in the tie maybe or to not exactly 00:08:13.060 --> 00:08:16.459 let the occasion get to them I think. they were 00:08:16.459 --> 00:08:19.420 managing the moment maybe but that was the most 00:08:19.420 --> 00:08:22.399 defensive I've seen Hansi Flick if I did notice 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:26.279 anything alright so the first half ends 0 -0 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:29.740 without any like major major chances they are 00:08:29.740 --> 00:08:33.159 like decent half chances but nothing like you'd 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:36.009 be like oh the whole match depended on that you 00:08:36.009 --> 00:08:38.210 know thing but the second half follows the same 00:08:38.210 --> 00:08:40.370 pattern as the you know the last five minutes 00:08:40.370 --> 00:08:42.769 of the first half both teams counter attacking 00:08:42.769 --> 00:08:44.830 each other and it's becoming like a basketball 00:08:44.830 --> 00:08:48.370 game but just both teams no quality in the final 00:08:48.370 --> 00:08:50.690 third both teams are just you know wondering 00:08:50.690 --> 00:08:53.289 squandering yes they get to the final third mess 00:08:53.289 --> 00:08:55.529 it up the other team counters mess it up in the 00:08:55.529 --> 00:08:57.710 final third the other team counters it's very 00:08:57.710 --> 00:09:00.509 like up and down up and down it kind of Kind 00:09:00.509 --> 00:09:02.490 of the perfect game of football if you're into 00:09:02.490 --> 00:09:05.429 that sort of thing, which I am. If you're a neutral, 00:09:05.610 --> 00:09:08.889 I guess. For the neutral fan, as they say. It 00:09:08.889 --> 00:09:12.210 depends what you're into. Now, you would obviously 00:09:12.210 --> 00:09:15.090 hope that they would score, but once in a while, 00:09:15.289 --> 00:09:19.590 just seeing the attacking football is much more 00:09:19.590 --> 00:09:23.450 fun than watching a team sit deep and cover all 00:09:23.450 --> 00:09:26.190 the channels and make it difficult to attack. 00:09:26.620 --> 00:09:28.860 This is the game I would rather watch. That's 00:09:28.860 --> 00:09:31.379 all I'm saying. Lewis Hall, I thought, was the 00:09:31.379 --> 00:09:33.440 man of the match. He did a fabulous job to keep 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:36.200 Lamine quiet, but also he got forward quite a 00:09:36.200 --> 00:09:40.019 lot, which, you know, doing two jobs very well. 00:09:40.259 --> 00:09:42.879 And the team that I thought of immediately was 00:09:42.879 --> 00:09:45.899 Man United. They're the team without a good left 00:09:45.899 --> 00:09:48.340 back. They should go in for Lewis Hall if they 00:09:48.340 --> 00:09:51.740 can. Man United could go in for him. I mean, 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:53.960 I still think Chelsea could have kept him, and 00:09:53.960 --> 00:09:55.919 in Chelsea's system, he would have been better 00:09:55.919 --> 00:09:59.759 than Cocorello for me. So that's just my personal 00:09:59.759 --> 00:10:02.179 opinion. But yeah, I think he could go to one 00:10:02.179 --> 00:10:03.960 or two of those clubs. I think I would take him 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:07.899 at Arsenal as well, to be frank, because I still... 00:10:07.899 --> 00:10:12.799 Hold on. Listeners, Darren has only waxed lyrical 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:16.710 all the time about... Al Calafiore as the X -Factor. 00:10:16.710 --> 00:10:18.909 I was going to say I'd play him as a centre -back. 00:10:19.529 --> 00:10:22.970 I'm not too happy with Gabriel. Oh, wow. I'm 00:10:22.970 --> 00:10:24.370 not too happy with Gabriel. He's getting play 00:10:24.370 --> 00:10:25.950 off the year shots and you're not happy about 00:10:25.950 --> 00:10:28.029 him. Yeah, the last three games I haven't been 00:10:28.029 --> 00:10:30.509 happy with his passing in particular, his playing 00:10:30.509 --> 00:10:32.429 out. I think he's made a lot of erratic mistakes, 00:10:32.509 --> 00:10:34.929 but we'll talk about that later. All right, back 00:10:34.929 --> 00:10:37.710 to the game. Around the 80th minute, Barca gained 00:10:37.710 --> 00:10:40.529 possession and tried to retain the ball to slow 00:10:40.529 --> 00:10:43.149 down the game instead of attacking. And ironically, 00:10:43.169 --> 00:10:45.730 this has the opposite effect as Jacob Murphy 00:10:45.730 --> 00:10:48.370 gets forward, plays a one -two, and then puts 00:10:48.370 --> 00:10:51.509 in a great cross. Harvey Barnes is unmarked with 00:10:51.509 --> 00:10:54.009 Rafinha just ball -watching, and he scores with 00:10:54.009 --> 00:10:56.590 a scrappy finish. But, well, that's what I initially 00:10:56.590 --> 00:10:58.789 thought. On second look, the keeper could have 00:10:58.789 --> 00:11:02.100 done much better than... he did against Harvey 00:11:02.100 --> 00:11:05.340 Barnes. Barnes took a tame shot and the keeper 00:11:05.340 --> 00:11:09.659 kind of bumbled it in. Yeah. And then, oh, sorry, 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:11.379 we just got into individual moments I didn't 00:11:11.379 --> 00:11:14.559 mention. That was an individual moment, the Harvey 00:11:14.559 --> 00:11:17.879 Barnes goal. Another individual moment is they 00:11:17.879 --> 00:11:20.899 get a last -minute penalty kick as Malik Chow 00:11:20.899 --> 00:11:23.419 brings down Daniel Olmo in the area. Honestly, 00:11:23.580 --> 00:11:26.779 a Stonewall penalty is just one of those ones 00:11:26.779 --> 00:11:29.879 where you're tired, you know, your brain is tired. 00:11:30.580 --> 00:11:33.779 And Olmo just came on, you know, he's fresh, 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:37.080 he's dribbling, he's twinkle toes, and he's coming 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:41.559 into the box, and you just take him out. I mean, 00:11:41.580 --> 00:11:45.240 yeah, they gave Barcelona a bit of a lifeline. 00:11:45.340 --> 00:11:47.899 I think in the end, it wouldn't have mattered. 00:11:47.960 --> 00:11:50.440 I think even if Barcelona had lost, I still would 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:52.759 have thought they'd got through at the Nou Camp. 00:11:53.440 --> 00:11:57.759 So, yeah, Lamine Yamal converts, and I would 00:11:57.759 --> 00:12:00.720 say that he had a stinker. He had a really poor 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:04.779 game. He did. And obviously a goal covers everything 00:12:04.779 --> 00:12:09.000 up, isn't it? It can, but... Well, people are 00:12:09.000 --> 00:12:10.779 not going to look back at this game and think, 00:12:10.860 --> 00:12:12.960 oh, Jamal had a stinker. They're going to think 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:15.659 back and say, oh, he scored a last -minute equalizer. 00:12:15.860 --> 00:12:18.700 Yeah, but that's because he'll probably have 00:12:18.700 --> 00:12:21.460 five or six good games. But I'm saying that's 00:12:21.460 --> 00:12:24.519 just how things work. Yeah. But it only gets 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:26.659 remembered as such if you had a good season, 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:28.980 is what I'm saying. No one will really remember 00:12:28.980 --> 00:12:32.259 the performance if he doesn't have any good games 00:12:32.259 --> 00:12:34.139 after this and help Barcelona win the Champions 00:12:34.139 --> 00:12:37.639 League. I was trying to make a comparison with 00:12:37.639 --> 00:12:40.820 Salah, who drops stinkers all the time, but he'll 00:12:40.820 --> 00:12:43.120 get a goal. And it's like, oh, but he scored 00:12:43.120 --> 00:12:46.000 that game. What, you're ungrateful for that goal, 00:12:46.100 --> 00:12:48.860 is it? Yeah, but Jamal hardly drops stinkers, 00:12:48.860 --> 00:12:52.600 though. All right, I'm not... Again, it feels 00:12:52.600 --> 00:12:54.960 like you think I'm attacking Jamal. I'm just 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:56.919 trying to draw a comparison with another player 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:02.120 that does what he does all the time. Anyway, 00:13:02.220 --> 00:13:04.340 I thought a draw is probably a fair result because 00:13:04.340 --> 00:13:07.620 both teams had good opportunities. Not great 00:13:07.620 --> 00:13:11.360 opportunities, but decent chances. But with how 00:13:11.360 --> 00:13:14.620 it panned out and the last minute of it all, 00:13:14.740 --> 00:13:17.259 it probably feels like a loss to Newcastle, I 00:13:17.259 --> 00:13:19.620 would say. Probably, and I think Barcelona also 00:13:19.620 --> 00:13:21.899 were bad. That was one of their worst games of 00:13:21.899 --> 00:13:24.059 the season. I doubt they'll be that bad again. 00:13:24.460 --> 00:13:27.059 I think Newcastle might have missed the beat 00:13:27.059 --> 00:13:30.580 to try and get the win at least, but I don't 00:13:30.580 --> 00:13:33.700 see Barcelona being that bad again. I think it 00:13:33.700 --> 00:13:38.279 would have been a mental boost if they had won 00:13:38.279 --> 00:13:40.659 the game. They could go into the Camp Nou with 00:13:40.659 --> 00:13:43.259 a little bit more positivity. I know what you're 00:13:43.259 --> 00:13:44.720 saying, they probably would have lost anyway, 00:13:44.960 --> 00:13:48.990 blah, blah, blah, but I think... you just feel 00:13:48.990 --> 00:13:51.970 more confident and more energized if you... When 00:13:51.970 --> 00:13:55.529 you have something to defend, yeah. You feel 00:13:55.529 --> 00:13:58.309 like you've won. Not feel like you've won, you 00:13:58.309 --> 00:14:01.490 did win. Now that they've drawn, I think they're 00:14:01.490 --> 00:14:04.169 going to be a lot more feeling worse. I don't 00:14:04.169 --> 00:14:07.750 know what to call it. Low on motivation, I guess. 00:14:07.769 --> 00:14:10.950 Low on motivation, yeah. I think. I have no idea 00:14:10.950 --> 00:14:14.049 what... Yeah, it could go both ways, you know. 00:14:14.129 --> 00:14:17.820 I mean, mentality is the... Oftentimes when a 00:14:17.820 --> 00:14:21.379 game is that close, mentality is what divides 00:14:21.379 --> 00:14:24.080 it. If the second game was to be as close. But 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:26.740 it would require Barcelona to play badly. I don't 00:14:26.740 --> 00:14:30.519 think even Newcastle at full tilt versus Barcelona 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:32.779 who play moderately well would be a close game 00:14:32.779 --> 00:14:36.460 right now. Alright, so that's Barcelona versus 00:14:36.460 --> 00:14:39.580 Newcastle. Now we're going into the miscellaneous 00:14:39.580 --> 00:14:43.159 section. I didn't do notes for any other matches, 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:45.519 so we're just going to be kind of freewheeling 00:14:45.519 --> 00:14:49.899 here, chatting about the other results. Yeah, 00:14:49.940 --> 00:14:52.899 I mean, I watched a couple of games. Which one 00:14:52.899 --> 00:14:55.980 did you watch? The Arsenal game, obviously. Okay, 00:14:56.080 --> 00:14:58.720 well, we'll get to that. The first game of the 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:04.100 midweek games was the 7 .45 game at our local 00:15:04.100 --> 00:15:08.220 time. Galatasaray won, Liverpool nil. And so 00:15:08.220 --> 00:15:11.360 I slept at 6 o 'clock, hoping to, not hoping, 00:15:11.440 --> 00:15:14.580 set my alarm to wake up at 7 .30 for the game 00:15:14.580 --> 00:15:17.799 at quarter to 8. And I just slept all the way 00:15:17.799 --> 00:15:22.360 up until 10. Sometimes that happens. Yeah. So, 00:15:22.460 --> 00:15:25.039 you know, the phrase, God gives his biggest naps 00:15:25.039 --> 00:15:28.360 to his sleepiest soldiers. That's what it says 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:32.419 in the Bible, I'm pretty sure. That's me. Well, 00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:37.279 God bless you. Right. The only things I can say 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:39.000 about this is stuff that I've read on Twitter 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:42.639 and from the highlights that I've seen. So Allison 00:15:42.639 --> 00:15:45.980 was injured, which forced Mama Dashvili to play. 00:15:46.419 --> 00:15:48.639 But now I just want to take you back to our last 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:50.980 episode. OK, you weren't here, but let me just 00:15:50.980 --> 00:15:55.259 repeat. I said, why is Slott playing Allison 00:15:55.259 --> 00:16:00.580 and not rotating in the cup? with Mama Dashvili, 00:16:00.700 --> 00:16:03.740 and now Alisson got injured. Does he not see 00:16:03.740 --> 00:16:07.620 any, like, a link from that to that? Like, oh, 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:09.700 I overplayed Alisson, and then he got injured. 00:16:09.899 --> 00:16:12.860 Does he not connect the dots in his mind and 00:16:12.860 --> 00:16:15.779 say, oh, I should be rotating? You would know 00:16:15.779 --> 00:16:18.080 better than me in terms of what his patterns 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:20.940 of coaching are this season. No, no, no, no. 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:25.679 Did Arteta play Raya in the FA Cup against Mansfield? 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:28.980 No, but I'm saying, what did he do last season? 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:32.179 He did the exact same thing. He doesn't rotate. 00:16:32.620 --> 00:16:36.639 He'll play that first 11 into the ground and 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:39.879 then complain that he doesn't have quality backups. 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:43.460 Yeah, I mean, maybe that's a character trait 00:16:43.460 --> 00:16:46.679 of his. It could be something related to the 00:16:46.679 --> 00:16:48.899 Dutch train of thought. I know they're very big 00:16:48.899 --> 00:16:51.080 on momentum because Louis van Gaal used to do 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:53.019 the same thing, if I remember correctly. A lot 00:16:53.019 --> 00:16:56.059 of Man United fans. would complain about the 00:16:56.059 --> 00:17:00.179 lack of rotation. Speaking of which, the midfield 00:17:00.179 --> 00:17:03.240 was not rotated again. The same midfield three, 00:17:03.399 --> 00:17:05.960 Sabotsla and McAllister -Gravenberg, have played 00:17:05.960 --> 00:17:09.769 in the last five matches. Without all of them 00:17:09.769 --> 00:17:11.829 90 minutes. Actually, no, let me take that back. 00:17:12.430 --> 00:17:14.710 In the FA Cup game, McAllister was replaced. 00:17:14.869 --> 00:17:17.569 But most of the time, they're all playing 90 00:17:17.569 --> 00:17:20.529 minutes. And Jones can't get a look in. Okay, 00:17:20.630 --> 00:17:22.829 Endo's injured. Who else do we have? Trey Neone, 00:17:22.910 --> 00:17:26.529 who's a youth player, but he's like, quote -unquote, 00:17:26.549 --> 00:17:31.130 next up. You know, like the next good academy 00:17:31.130 --> 00:17:34.940 player, and he's not getting any minutes. Yeah, 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:38.920 sorry, I just needed to vent about this guy not 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:43.900 rotating at all. Even Rio Ngamoa played 70 minutes 00:17:43.900 --> 00:17:46.359 in the FA Cup and he got zero minutes against 00:17:46.359 --> 00:17:50.099 Galatasaray. You know, is 70 minutes a week too 00:17:50.099 --> 00:17:52.279 much for him? Then he shouldn't be a professional 00:17:52.279 --> 00:17:57.099 athlete. That's disgusting if his body could 00:17:57.099 --> 00:17:59.859 handle it. But if it's not just being an idiot, 00:17:59.960 --> 00:18:04.500 then he needs to go. Right? Yeah, I mean, I guess 00:18:04.500 --> 00:18:07.700 these are things for the Liverpool board to discuss. 00:18:08.180 --> 00:18:11.140 Last season was hard to criticise him because 00:18:11.140 --> 00:18:15.059 you guys won the league. So I guess now, if those 00:18:15.059 --> 00:18:18.099 problems were there last season, I guess they're 00:18:18.099 --> 00:18:21.700 more in your face now because Salah didn't have 00:18:21.700 --> 00:18:24.539 the season he had last season or no one had that 00:18:24.539 --> 00:18:26.480 sort of season that could make up, I guess, for 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:29.180 the deficiencies in the system. But it depends. 00:18:30.250 --> 00:18:32.329 If the results were there, would people be criticizing 00:18:32.329 --> 00:18:35.349 it? So at the same time, I think, yeah, he's 00:18:35.349 --> 00:18:37.029 going to be there till the end of the season. 00:18:37.150 --> 00:18:41.130 So right now, I tend to agree with you. I think 00:18:41.130 --> 00:18:43.690 rotation is the best way to go. I've always been 00:18:43.690 --> 00:18:47.259 a big fan of Guardiola. I've made that point 00:18:47.259 --> 00:18:49.440 so many times. I've always thought that rotating 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:51.700 players is probably the best way to go about 00:18:51.700 --> 00:18:53.660 coaching. Even Mourinho, when he was successful, 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:55.700 different style of football, but was very big 00:18:55.700 --> 00:18:58.700 on rotation. I agree with you. Whether the Liverpool 00:18:58.700 --> 00:19:01.779 board agrees with you or not, we'll see. This 00:19:01.779 --> 00:19:05.240 is what Klopp would do. We shouldn't go backwards, 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:07.319 and I don't want Klopp to be the manager again, 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:11.119 but I'm just pointing something out. He would 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:15.720 play Robertson, a youth defender, Konate. and 00:19:15.720 --> 00:19:18.359 then a youth right back. And then in the next 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:21.519 game, he would swap. A youth left back, Van Dijk, 00:19:21.619 --> 00:19:24.559 a youth center back, Trent. You get what I'm 00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:27.140 saying? Yeah, so they learn off the players next 00:19:27.140 --> 00:19:28.220 to them as well. Yeah, so there would be two 00:19:28.220 --> 00:19:30.619 youth players, two seniors. Two youth players, 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:33.880 two seniors. So that, you know, all sections 00:19:33.880 --> 00:19:37.480 are kind of covered by a senior player who can 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:40.059 take responsibility. And there's a younger player 00:19:40.059 --> 00:19:43.460 who can learn from that positioning. And, you 00:19:43.460 --> 00:19:46.869 know... Develop. Develop, yes. How are players 00:19:46.869 --> 00:19:48.569 going to develop if they don't get any minutes? 00:19:48.930 --> 00:19:53.509 Explain that, Slot. But he won't because he doesn't 00:19:53.509 --> 00:19:56.569 listen to the podcast. But if he did, you know, 00:19:56.589 --> 00:19:57.789 I'd like an answer. He still wouldn't listen 00:19:57.789 --> 00:20:02.589 to Liverpool fans. He'd tell you guys to be grateful 00:20:02.589 --> 00:20:07.180 for the Premier League he delivered. Yeah. He 00:20:07.180 --> 00:20:09.160 actually did say that. Not so many words, but 00:20:09.160 --> 00:20:17.420 he did say that. Anyway, so I did watch the highlights, 00:20:17.480 --> 00:20:20.059 and we have to give some credit to Galatasaray. 00:20:20.180 --> 00:20:24.000 They scored from a corner. Victor Osserman won 00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:27.000 the first header, put it, and then I'm not sure 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:29.519 the name of the player, but they scored at the 00:20:29.519 --> 00:20:33.599 back post. Oh, yeah. I did see the goal as well, 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:36.759 so don't remember the player. So that's all we 00:20:36.759 --> 00:20:39.059 can really say about the game. Because again, 00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:44.079 neither of us saw it, but we did see a lot of 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:46.480 poor sloppy play in the highlights. And I mean, 00:20:46.559 --> 00:20:50.960 if anything, I think Galatasaray, they don't 00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:53.380 seem to be that good of a footballing team. Just 00:20:53.380 --> 00:20:56.859 shows how important the atmosphere can be, because 00:20:56.859 --> 00:20:59.980 I think they're kind of living off of how difficult 00:20:59.980 --> 00:21:02.680 the stadium is to go to. You don't see, like, 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:04.839 if you compare them to Bodo, I guess, maybe we'll 00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:07.000 speak about Bodo later, where you see a lot of, 00:21:07.039 --> 00:21:10.359 at least, a tactical identity that they're executing. 00:21:10.400 --> 00:21:12.779 Whether you agree with it or not depends on your 00:21:12.779 --> 00:21:15.279 interpretation of football, but I think with 00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:17.900 Galatasaray, it just seems like that's a crazy 00:21:17.900 --> 00:21:20.480 difficult place to go to, no matter who you are, 00:21:20.500 --> 00:21:23.940 just because of the fans. A counterpoint? I just 00:21:23.940 --> 00:21:26.359 think we're bad. Yeah, but I'm saying it's not 00:21:26.359 --> 00:21:29.980 just you guys. Did we see, like, I don't know 00:21:29.980 --> 00:21:32.500 who's a good team. PSG go to Galatasaray and 00:21:32.500 --> 00:21:34.740 get beaten. I'm pretty sure they got a couple 00:21:34.740 --> 00:21:37.259 of big scalps in the group stage at home. We'd 00:21:37.259 --> 00:21:40.240 have to go look at their results. I don't recall 00:21:40.240 --> 00:21:43.980 Galatasaray. I guess Juventus, but Juventus aren't 00:21:43.980 --> 00:21:49.339 Juventus of old anymore. They did get to the 00:21:49.339 --> 00:21:51.359 playoffs, I remember, by getting one or two big 00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:55.640 scalps. I forgot who they were, but generally 00:21:55.640 --> 00:21:58.440 that ground is difficult to go to. My point being 00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:01.700 is... I'm going off they beat Juventus and they 00:22:01.700 --> 00:22:04.799 beat us. And neither of us or Juventus are like 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:08.140 in the best moment right now. So they're beating 00:22:08.140 --> 00:22:11.920 teams based on name, not on... If we look at 00:22:11.920 --> 00:22:14.660 the Man City game, Real Madrid are not in a good 00:22:14.660 --> 00:22:18.460 moment. All right. Okay. Are we done with Liverpool 00:22:18.460 --> 00:22:21.440 and Galatasaray? Do we have anything else to 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:25.509 say? Yeah. I mean, I'm done. Okay. Atletico Madrid 00:22:25.509 --> 00:22:28.789 5 Spurs 2. Obviously the big talking point about 00:22:28.789 --> 00:22:31.930 this match was that the goalkeeper Kinski was 00:22:31.930 --> 00:22:34.609 given his Champions League debut and he made 00:22:34.609 --> 00:22:37.829 two huge errors and conceded three before getting 00:22:37.829 --> 00:22:40.970 subbed. So my heart goes out to this poor chap. 00:22:41.170 --> 00:22:43.630 He was crying as he came off and it wasn't a 00:22:43.630 --> 00:22:47.349 nice thing to watch. And I blame, I place the 00:22:47.349 --> 00:22:50.549 blame firmly on Igor Chudo's shoulders because 00:22:50.549 --> 00:22:53.829 why would you... give this guy this is the first 00:22:53.829 --> 00:22:57.490 game to start him you know that's one two when 00:22:57.490 --> 00:22:59.390 he's coming off he didn't try comfort him at 00:22:59.390 --> 00:23:02.029 all he just you know let the guy go off down 00:23:02.029 --> 00:23:04.970 the tunnel crying it was such a heartbreaking 00:23:04.970 --> 00:23:07.089 moment you know that's not how you treat somebody 00:23:07.089 --> 00:23:11.190 else i can understand if it were a more senior 00:23:11.190 --> 00:23:13.829 player and a senior player was letting down the 00:23:13.829 --> 00:23:16.869 team you know sub him and and you know we'll 00:23:16.869 --> 00:23:19.130 chat about it at halftime or after the game whatever 00:23:19.720 --> 00:23:23.819 A youth player or a younger player, it's very 00:23:23.819 --> 00:23:25.779 difficult, you know, that situation. You have 00:23:25.779 --> 00:23:29.700 to manage the emotions as well. Yes, it's very 00:23:29.700 --> 00:23:33.119 poor from Igor Trudo. And at the time, I said 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:35.859 it was a bad move to bring him in based on what 00:23:35.859 --> 00:23:39.180 I knew about him. But now I'm confirmed that 00:23:39.180 --> 00:23:43.940 it was a bad move. And Spurs are really in danger 00:23:43.940 --> 00:23:46.829 of going down. They really are. They are. I mean, 00:23:46.869 --> 00:23:49.630 it was a poor performance, I think. It's hard 00:23:49.630 --> 00:23:53.230 to say, like, to judge. I guess Atletico are 00:23:53.230 --> 00:23:55.869 pulling off a lot of big performances in the 00:23:55.869 --> 00:24:00.269 big moments as well. So, you know, I don't think 00:24:00.269 --> 00:24:02.769 Spurs necessarily had an easy game, I think. 00:24:03.130 --> 00:24:05.910 Everyone expected them to lose anyway, not get 00:24:05.910 --> 00:24:09.349 hammered or cave in the way they did. But yeah, 00:24:09.410 --> 00:24:12.490 they're in a difficult situation. The only thing 00:24:12.490 --> 00:24:14.789 I can really see, I think of all the teams in 00:24:14.789 --> 00:24:16.410 the bottom of the Premier League as well, they 00:24:16.410 --> 00:24:18.650 have the toughest fixture run. So I think the 00:24:18.650 --> 00:24:22.259 only thing I can, the only sort of... hope I'd 00:24:22.259 --> 00:24:24.680 give them of staying up right now is probably 00:24:24.680 --> 00:24:28.079 just if one of their players has like a great 00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:30.759 individual run until the end of the season and 00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:32.940 but I don't even see who that is to be honest 00:24:32.940 --> 00:24:36.480 maybe Solanke yeah because uh again based on 00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:38.180 highlights because I didn't watch this match 00:24:38.180 --> 00:24:41.839 the second goal from Spurs okay this seven goals 00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:44.160 is far too many to go through individually but 00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:46.460 I will say for the Solanke goal that was a top 00:24:46.460 --> 00:24:48.980 quality finish who was it Pedro Porro won the 00:24:48.980 --> 00:24:53.670 ball after a poor pass from the goalkeeper Oblak 00:24:53.670 --> 00:24:55.730 and he passed it to Solanke and Solanke finished. 00:24:56.509 --> 00:25:00.769 quite powerfully. So, yeah. Yeah, I mean, Tottenham's 00:25:00.769 --> 00:25:04.089 defending was poor, but I also think Atletico's 00:25:04.089 --> 00:25:06.890 foot goal was a really, really good counter -attacking 00:25:06.890 --> 00:25:09.910 goal, like the classic Champions League goal. 00:25:10.150 --> 00:25:12.950 Alvarez ran all the way from, like, the middle 00:25:12.950 --> 00:25:16.009 of the field to the goal and scored. So, yeah, 00:25:16.029 --> 00:25:17.829 based on highlights, I assume that this was a 00:25:17.829 --> 00:25:20.789 very sloppy match because Van de Ven also slipped. 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:23.859 And like I mentioned, the Atletico keeper passed 00:25:23.859 --> 00:25:26.920 the ball straight to a Spurs player. So... Individual 00:25:26.920 --> 00:25:29.299 errors all over the place. Out of the seven, 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:32.319 at least four were individual errors. So, not 00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:34.519 good. Yeah, anything else you want to say about 00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:37.819 this game? I mean, I think it wasn't this game 00:25:37.819 --> 00:25:41.059 in specific. I'd say that... It was a common 00:25:41.059 --> 00:25:44.240 pattern in all the games that maybe bar one or 00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:47.000 two teams, it was atrocious defending this week. 00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:52.079 I think some of the team structures, who usually 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:55.859 play well, at least from what I saw, the highlights 00:25:55.859 --> 00:25:59.099 we watched, the goals were just so much space. 00:26:00.180 --> 00:26:02.900 Speaking about teams that are usually quite good 00:26:02.900 --> 00:26:06.259 but conceded some horror goals, Atalanta won 00:26:06.259 --> 00:26:09.599 Bayern Munich 6. So based on highlights, it was 00:26:09.599 --> 00:26:13.000 diabolical defending from Atalanta. And they 00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:15.339 also kept getting caught in transition. Yeah, 00:26:15.380 --> 00:26:20.119 it was like shocking. Even the amount of space 00:26:20.119 --> 00:26:23.400 Olise had. And obviously, I'm not trying to put 00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:27.200 down what Bayern did. I am. Like in terms of... 00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:28.920 It's a Champions League victory. It's a 6 -1 00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:32.140 victory. But I still think Bayern are not as 00:26:32.140 --> 00:26:35.539 good as everyone might think they are. That's 00:26:35.539 --> 00:26:38.720 what I'm saying. No, no, no, I'm not agreeing 00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:40.460 with you. I'm saying I'm not trying to take away 00:26:40.460 --> 00:26:44.079 credit from the individuals or some of the football 00:26:44.079 --> 00:26:46.500 they do play, which is really good. I'm just 00:26:46.500 --> 00:26:48.480 saying that they haven't really been tested. 00:26:48.599 --> 00:26:51.140 I think they've lost, what, one game this season 00:26:51.140 --> 00:26:53.599 in the Champions League, one game in the league. 00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:58.440 And I think when we played them, it was one of 00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:01.680 the easier games we played this season. But at 00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:04.319 the same time, I'd say that... We could have 00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:06.539 said the same thing about PSG last season when 00:27:06.539 --> 00:27:09.259 we beat them and Newcastle beat them. So I just 00:27:09.259 --> 00:27:13.279 don't necessarily see Bayern as being on the 00:27:13.279 --> 00:27:15.920 same level as Barcelona right now. I'd put them 00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:19.079 probably just below Barca on the same level as 00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:21.500 Arsenal, but everyone's opinion is different. 00:27:21.779 --> 00:27:24.880 I just think that the amount of space Atalanta 00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:26.980 gave them was ridiculous, though. It seemed almost 00:27:26.980 --> 00:27:29.420 like a Europa League game, not to offend that 00:27:29.420 --> 00:27:33.309 competition. I don't think Bayern themselves 00:27:33.309 --> 00:27:35.369 would have expected the game to be that easy, 00:27:35.450 --> 00:27:38.009 have that amount of space, especially to the 00:27:38.009 --> 00:27:41.769 players we've mentioned. Well, I am going to 00:27:41.769 --> 00:27:44.690 disrespect Bayern Munich and say Atalanta made 00:27:44.690 --> 00:27:47.490 it too easy for them. They're an average team 00:27:47.490 --> 00:27:51.589 that looks amazing because Atalanta were very 00:27:51.589 --> 00:27:53.710 poor. I don't think they're an average team. 00:27:56.140 --> 00:27:59.279 They're about to break every record in the Bundesliga. 00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:01.819 Yeah, in an average league. This is the thing. 00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:05.660 I had a thought. What if Bayern came across a 00:28:05.660 --> 00:28:09.359 really defensive side that, you know, won't put 00:28:09.359 --> 00:28:11.599 up with their bullshit and, you know, makes the 00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:14.619 spaces tight? And then I thought, oh, they did 00:28:14.619 --> 00:28:17.220 play that team. It was Arsenal and they lost. 00:28:17.599 --> 00:28:20.720 So I don't need to do a thought experiment. It's 00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:22.559 happened. Yeah, but I mean, that's always been 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.069 the case with Bayern. How does it translate from, 00:28:26.130 --> 00:28:29.049 like, how do you interpret how good they are 00:28:29.049 --> 00:28:30.910 in the league and whether or not it will translate 00:28:30.910 --> 00:28:33.670 into the Champions League? Because Pep Guardiola, 00:28:33.849 --> 00:28:36.990 everyone, or most people, recognize him as the 00:28:36.990 --> 00:28:39.190 best coach in the world, but he wasn't able to 00:28:39.190 --> 00:28:41.450 get Bayern Munich to the same heights as Jupp 00:28:41.450 --> 00:28:44.289 Heynckes, despite probably having a more complete 00:28:44.289 --> 00:28:47.230 squad all around the pitch. So it's all interpretive. 00:28:47.250 --> 00:28:49.309 It's like, what will translate? Because they 00:28:49.309 --> 00:28:52.049 always dominate the league nine times out of 00:28:52.049 --> 00:28:55.200 ten. That's, I guess, why people gave Klopp so 00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:57.740 much credit at the start of his Dortmund career 00:28:57.740 --> 00:29:01.599 because he kind of was able to compete with Bayern 00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:04.619 Munich. The same thing he did at Man City. Obviously, 00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:07.279 his competition at Man City was slightly better, 00:29:07.400 --> 00:29:10.839 but he was performing against a juggernaut with 00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:15.019 a team that he had to build himself. It's hard 00:29:15.019 --> 00:29:16.980 to gauge with Bayern Munich. I think if they 00:29:16.980 --> 00:29:19.660 have momentum, it's always going to be a game 00:29:19.660 --> 00:29:24.019 of margins. The players they have are match winners. 00:29:24.859 --> 00:29:27.339 I think if Kompany can make it a game of margins, 00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:30.079 their attack can win them the Champions League. 00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:31.819 I wouldn't be surprised if they win all the way. 00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:34.720 Also, don't rate Kompany. Just mentioning he 00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:38.940 got relegated from actual league. But he could 00:29:38.940 --> 00:29:42.099 win a treble. Oh, Slot could also win a treble. 00:29:42.339 --> 00:29:46.019 No, he can't. Why not? Not this season, but maybe 00:29:46.019 --> 00:29:48.460 in the future. Who knows? We in three competitions, 00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:50.460 aren't we? You can't win the Premier League. 00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:55.319 Why not? It's unlikely. I agree with that. But 00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:59.000 why not? But they're almost guaranteed two trophies. 00:29:59.700 --> 00:30:02.740 Two bullshit trophies, bro. Okay, so if they 00:30:02.740 --> 00:30:04.140 win the Champions League, are they still going 00:30:04.140 --> 00:30:06.819 to be frauds? No. You're a fraud until you prove 00:30:06.819 --> 00:30:09.920 otherwise. I was going to call him Jason. A League 00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:12.619 Cup and a Champions League semifinals? It's also 00:30:12.619 --> 00:30:15.680 a good season. How is that different to what 00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:18.619 Guardiola did? What would have made Guardiola's 00:30:18.619 --> 00:30:21.359 buy -in? Exceptional then. Because you're looking 00:30:21.359 --> 00:30:24.359 at his Bayern team in a vacuum. Pep has won the 00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:26.460 Champions League three other times. Yeah, but 00:30:26.460 --> 00:30:28.819 I'm saying specifically at Bayern Munich. We 00:30:28.819 --> 00:30:31.579 call the company a fraud, but he's outperforming 00:30:31.579 --> 00:30:36.380 Pep at Bayern Munich. Outperforming? World football 00:30:36.380 --> 00:30:39.740 was way stronger when... Not when Pep was in 00:30:39.740 --> 00:30:42.980 the Bundesliga. I think so. No, I think when 00:30:42.980 --> 00:30:44.839 Pep was in the Bundesliga was probably at its 00:30:44.839 --> 00:30:47.039 easiest time. No, I'm saying world football. 00:30:47.180 --> 00:30:50.039 I didn't say the Bundesliga. So, in that same 00:30:50.039 --> 00:30:53.720 season, it was the MSN. They won the treble, 00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:57.140 didn't they? Yeah, no, but I'm saying, hypothetically 00:30:57.140 --> 00:30:58.720 speaking... That's why I'm saying it would have 00:30:58.720 --> 00:31:01.279 been harder for Pep to win the Champions League 00:31:01.279 --> 00:31:05.150 because... World football was harder. Yeah, but 00:31:05.150 --> 00:31:07.769 at the same time, that's just an excuse, is it 00:31:07.769 --> 00:31:11.150 not? How is it not? Okay, it is an excuse. It 00:31:11.150 --> 00:31:14.849 is an excuse. But I'm saying it's a reason. Yeah, 00:31:14.869 --> 00:31:18.509 so, like for me, if he's doing better in the 00:31:18.509 --> 00:31:21.109 same circumstances than Guardiola, like Messi 00:31:21.109 --> 00:31:23.069 and Ronaldo don't have to be there for him to 00:31:23.069 --> 00:31:26.329 be outperforming any season that Guardiola had 00:31:26.329 --> 00:31:29.390 at Bayern Munich, just off their domestic performances. 00:31:30.049 --> 00:31:33.430 It's not like... Okay. What's the Bordeaux Glimpse 00:31:33.430 --> 00:31:36.930 manager's name? I don't know. Okay. Whatever 00:31:36.930 --> 00:31:39.029 their name is, they can also win the Champions 00:31:39.029 --> 00:31:40.569 League. That means they're the greatest ever. 00:31:41.009 --> 00:31:43.529 No, I didn't say that. I'm saying... You're saying 00:31:43.529 --> 00:31:46.430 because Kompany may win the Champions League, 00:31:46.529 --> 00:31:49.109 that means he should be held in this regard. 00:31:49.740 --> 00:31:51.640 They play good football. I don't think their 00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:54.380 football is bad. But you see what I'm saying. 00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:56.799 I could also say, oh, Newcastle are still in 00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:00.420 the Champions League. No, I don't see what you're 00:32:00.420 --> 00:32:02.900 saying. I need you to explain how are they not... 00:32:02.900 --> 00:32:05.839 Okay, let's take another... Okay, the only team 00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:08.160 that's been better than them in the Champions 00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:10.859 League so far is Arsenal. So which metric are 00:32:10.859 --> 00:32:13.339 you using to say Bayern Munich have been average? 00:32:13.619 --> 00:32:16.200 So when they win games, their performances don't... 00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:18.000 They've scored the most goals in Europe this 00:32:18.000 --> 00:32:20.619 season. You can say this because of the Bundesliga, 00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:22.319 but they scored the most in the Champions League. 00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:24.559 I'm saying when I've watched them, they've looked 00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:26.799 average when they've won. That's all I'm trying 00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:29.619 to get at. Yeah, but then, I mean, which team 00:32:29.619 --> 00:32:31.339 hasn't looked average when they've won for you? 00:32:33.029 --> 00:32:35.710 Arsenal and Bayern are the best teams statistically 00:32:35.710 --> 00:32:39.089 in the world right now. And you say they both 00:32:39.089 --> 00:32:42.470 look average. PSV aren't really the PSV of last 00:32:42.470 --> 00:32:44.769 season. They might be peaking now. Barcelona 00:32:44.769 --> 00:32:47.089 is also hypothetical. I believe they're the best 00:32:47.089 --> 00:32:48.849 team in the world, but they still need to prove 00:32:48.849 --> 00:32:51.720 it. I think we... There's not something we need 00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:54.599 to debate. In about a few months, we'll see who 00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:57.140 wins the Champions League and we'll all agree 00:32:57.140 --> 00:33:00.420 that company is a fraud. And we'll all agree 00:33:00.420 --> 00:33:02.559 that it won't be a Premier League team. Okay. 00:33:03.339 --> 00:33:06.140 Leverkusen won, Arsenal won. So based on highlights, 00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:08.769 this was an even match. Both teams had decent 00:33:08.769 --> 00:33:11.730 chances to score. The Leverkusen goal came from 00:33:11.730 --> 00:33:15.130 a corner and Robert Andres is unmarked at the 00:33:15.130 --> 00:33:18.269 back post. And this is not what I would expect 00:33:18.269 --> 00:33:19.970 from the best defence in the Premier League. 00:33:20.150 --> 00:33:23.869 And I'm not saying that snarkily or ironically. 00:33:24.630 --> 00:33:26.650 Arsenal are the best defence in the Premier League. 00:33:27.470 --> 00:33:29.930 It's shocking that they conceded a goal like 00:33:29.930 --> 00:33:33.089 that, unmarked. Yeah, it was a poor, maybe a 00:33:33.089 --> 00:33:35.640 lapse in concentration. I think no one picked 00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:38.200 up the marker, just like really. So I didn't 00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:40.079 write it down, but I think it was just after 00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:42.420 halftime. Yeah, it was. So perhaps they didn't 00:33:42.420 --> 00:33:46.220 settle, they didn't... At least we didn't play 00:33:46.220 --> 00:33:48.900 well at all. Like I think from the start of the 00:33:48.900 --> 00:33:51.339 game till the end, I don't think... Like Arteta 00:33:51.339 --> 00:33:56.200 made a few structural changes. I think... Zubamendi 00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:59.160 was a little bit higher, which maybe trying to 00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:02.119 get his passing, his line -breaking passes a 00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:04.180 bit more up the field made a bit of a difference. 00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:07.880 I think Declan Rice was deeper, but I think the 00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:11.059 structure just wasn't the same. I think he was 00:34:11.059 --> 00:34:13.559 trying to overcompensate for your carries too 00:34:13.559 --> 00:34:19.219 much. I've given him his props in the last few 00:34:19.219 --> 00:34:21.619 weeks, but I don't think he's the type of player 00:34:21.619 --> 00:34:23.619 you have to build a system around, and I think 00:34:23.619 --> 00:34:26.480 right now... At least in that one specific game, 00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:28.920 it seemed like Oteta was trying to use his transitional 00:34:28.920 --> 00:34:31.579 power above everything else. So I didn't really, 00:34:31.679 --> 00:34:34.340 I didn't agree with Oteta's approach yesterday. 00:34:35.099 --> 00:34:38.920 So I think Arsenal got a bullshit penalty. There 00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:42.039 was contact on Maduweke, but not enough, in my 00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:43.940 opinion, for him to fall in the manner that he 00:34:43.940 --> 00:34:46.199 did. I mean, it's a game of margins, you know. 00:34:46.619 --> 00:34:49.139 Arsenal are the team that we use the Marlins 00:34:49.139 --> 00:34:52.000 the best, whether you think it's right or wrong, 00:34:52.059 --> 00:34:52.960 but we do use them the most efficiently. Well, 00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:54.900 it's definitely wrong to dive. It's definitely 00:34:54.900 --> 00:34:57.699 wrong to your opinion, to your mind. All right, 00:34:57.699 --> 00:35:00.440 fine. In my opinion, it's bad to dive. We have 00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:03.099 the new Jose Mourinho. In my opinion, I'm happy 00:35:03.099 --> 00:35:07.530 with that. Arteta's the villain of the Premier 00:35:07.530 --> 00:35:09.769 League. I agree with that. He is the new Jose 00:35:09.769 --> 00:35:12.190 Mourinho. Just everybody dreads playing him. 00:35:12.630 --> 00:35:15.269 Which is strange. I mean, Pep Guardiola lost 00:35:15.269 --> 00:35:17.510 his head completely yesterday in the press conference, 00:35:17.710 --> 00:35:19.489 but no one brought that up. What did he say? 00:35:19.869 --> 00:35:21.989 He was just... I mean, you should go look at 00:35:21.989 --> 00:35:24.929 it for yourself. I think he was like... You could 00:35:24.929 --> 00:35:31.969 see he was... He was touched. And I love him. 00:35:32.110 --> 00:35:35.170 I love him, but... This is something if Klopp 00:35:35.170 --> 00:35:37.070 or Arteta did, we wouldn't hear the end of it. 00:35:37.429 --> 00:35:42.949 Yeah. So, Kai Havertz scored the penalty. Slaughtered 00:35:42.949 --> 00:35:45.469 it away pretty well. And it's pretty funny how 00:35:45.469 --> 00:35:47.949 respectful he was when he scored. Or when he 00:35:47.949 --> 00:35:51.329 celebrated. In comparison to Chelsea. Yeah. Because 00:35:51.329 --> 00:35:53.289 every time he plays Chelsea and scores against 00:35:53.289 --> 00:35:56.289 them, he goes buck wild and celebrates. And, 00:35:56.289 --> 00:35:59.889 yeah. I just wonder what they did to him over 00:35:59.889 --> 00:36:03.840 there at Chelsea. I just hope he stays fit. For 00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:06.699 me, personally, he's one of my favourite Arsenal 00:36:06.699 --> 00:36:09.780 players as well. If we can get him back, I think 00:36:09.780 --> 00:36:12.940 the dynamics of the front three improve a lot. 00:36:13.219 --> 00:36:16.599 I did see one attack in the highlights that Jokre 00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:18.780 has kind of slowed down the attack. The ball 00:36:18.780 --> 00:36:21.199 is going to Martinelli. He picks it up and then 00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:23.539 he passes to Martinelli. But at that point, the 00:36:23.539 --> 00:36:27.679 defender had time to close down the angle. Martinelli 00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:30.539 still got off a good shot. Martinelli played 00:36:30.539 --> 00:36:32.199 decent. He's been very good in the Champions 00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:37.719 League. He would have had a better shot if Jokers 00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:39.639 had just let it go straight to him, I think. 00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:42.880 Again, though, I would also say that we were 00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:46.980 very sloppy, our structure. A lot of the reason 00:36:46.980 --> 00:36:49.239 we were able to keep Leverkusen at bay again 00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:53.460 was just Declan Rice's closing down, man. His 00:36:53.460 --> 00:36:56.119 ability to read the game. I think he's having 00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:58.260 a crazy season. He's probably carrying us more 00:36:58.260 --> 00:37:01.659 than any player so far this season. I think we 00:37:01.659 --> 00:37:03.500 could have even lost that game without him. He 00:37:03.500 --> 00:37:06.840 made a lot of good interceptions, beat the press 00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.059 a lot. I think the midfield was looking disjointed 00:37:10.059 --> 00:37:13.460 whenever he misplaced the pass or did something 00:37:13.460 --> 00:37:17.219 wrong. Yeah, I'm just thankful we have him right 00:37:17.219 --> 00:37:21.699 now. Speaking... Okay, sorry. Are we done speaking 00:37:21.699 --> 00:37:25.800 about this? Yeah. All right. PSG 5, Chelsea 2. 00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:29.579 I heard that this was a decent match, but Chelsea 00:37:29.579 --> 00:37:31.860 kind of collapsed in the last 10 minutes. So 00:37:31.860 --> 00:37:34.440 it looks much worse than it actually was. It 00:37:34.440 --> 00:37:37.119 was actually a very tight... Yeah, I heard that 00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:42.079 Chelsea played actually well. However, it's done 00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:46.920 now. So watching the highlights, PSG scored some 00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:49.900 absolute stunners. I think that they are the 00:37:49.900 --> 00:37:51.960 favourites for the tournament again. They're 00:37:51.960 --> 00:37:53.860 the team that really impresses me every time 00:37:53.860 --> 00:37:57.139 I watch them. I mean... Not a group of frauds. 00:37:57.980 --> 00:38:01.219 I would say they've been inconsistent this season. 00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:03.260 I've watched them a bit this season, so I wouldn't 00:38:03.260 --> 00:38:05.119 say they've been as good as last season, but 00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:07.579 they are peaking again. But I think with last 00:38:07.579 --> 00:38:11.059 season, it was just the Champions League that 00:38:11.059 --> 00:38:12.659 they weren't playing well in. They were kind 00:38:12.659 --> 00:38:14.880 of like... They went on a crazy run in the league. 00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:16.639 But it's the same thing about Bayern, right? 00:38:16.659 --> 00:38:18.840 I don't care what they do in Liga. No, but I'm 00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:22.280 saying right now, their form... is is is petri 00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:24.280 in both i think they conceded a lot of chances 00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:28.860 to chelsea so they did uh in the highlights for 00:38:28.860 --> 00:38:32.280 chelsea's first goal there was just a huge gap 00:38:32.280 --> 00:38:35.420 uh marlo gusto just walked in there and scored 00:38:35.420 --> 00:38:39.059 there were like no pressure on him nothing because 00:38:39.059 --> 00:38:42.599 there was such a huge gap i think like personally 00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:45.389 i think Obviously, my favorites are Barcelona, 00:38:45.489 --> 00:38:48.030 but the way I'm seeing the things we've seen 00:38:48.030 --> 00:38:50.210 in the past in the Champions League, Real Madrid 00:38:50.210 --> 00:38:52.369 would be my second favorites right now because 00:38:52.369 --> 00:38:55.690 I think they're going to find a way to win in 00:38:55.690 --> 00:38:57.510 the margins, which is what the Champions League 00:38:57.510 --> 00:38:59.849 is all about. And it would be sad because then 00:38:59.849 --> 00:39:01.670 people would start calling Arbelor a genius, 00:39:01.789 --> 00:39:04.929 but I'm pretty sure they're going to be very 00:39:04.929 --> 00:39:07.349 competitive for the rest of the season. Okay, 00:39:07.389 --> 00:39:10.190 well, we're not even there yet, but I disagree. 00:39:10.610 --> 00:39:12.809 Let's just finish off with this, right? So I 00:39:12.809 --> 00:39:15.409 don't think PSG have the best defense, but their 00:39:15.409 --> 00:39:19.130 attack is so stacked. So say it's the 80th minute, 00:39:19.190 --> 00:39:22.110 and you've defended so well against, like, Bacola, 00:39:22.289 --> 00:39:27.409 Douay, and Dembele, and then 10 minutes, I mean, 00:39:27.429 --> 00:39:29.409 in that last 10 minutes, they bring on Farid 00:39:29.409 --> 00:39:32.949 Skellier to run at you, and, like, who else do 00:39:32.949 --> 00:39:38.550 they have? Who else do they have? Yeah, I don't 00:39:38.550 --> 00:39:41.309 know. That's what I'm saying. Who else is a good 00:39:41.309 --> 00:39:43.750 player for them? Oh, Douay. No, I mentioned Douay. 00:39:43.889 --> 00:39:46.590 Oh, did you? Bacola. We'd have to go through 00:39:46.590 --> 00:39:48.809 their options. I think it's... They have... Yeah, 00:39:48.889 --> 00:39:52.449 okay. Whatever the case is... Oh, Ramos. Gonzalo 00:39:52.449 --> 00:39:55.750 Ramos. Yeah, as for Chelsea, I don't know what 00:39:55.750 --> 00:39:59.369 to say about them. I mean, I think they seem 00:39:59.369 --> 00:40:02.849 to be a bit of the opposite of what they were 00:40:02.849 --> 00:40:05.349 under Maresca in terms of... They're playing 00:40:05.349 --> 00:40:08.250 well now, maybe even like similar football, but 00:40:08.250 --> 00:40:12.090 I think they were very much a team for the big 00:40:12.090 --> 00:40:14.730 occasion under Maresca, whereas now they've lost 00:40:14.730 --> 00:40:18.789 three games to Arsenal and one to PSG. So I think 00:40:18.789 --> 00:40:21.630 now they seem to have lost the big game magic 00:40:21.630 --> 00:40:28.130 a bit, you know. I didn't watch this game, but 00:40:28.130 --> 00:40:31.090 I heard Bodo Glimt were, again, very good on 00:40:31.090 --> 00:40:35.119 the transition. tore Sporting apart. So congratulations 00:40:35.119 --> 00:40:37.639 to them. I mean, we'll probably meet them in 00:40:37.639 --> 00:40:40.820 the quarters. So I hope their run ends in the 00:40:40.820 --> 00:40:44.780 next leg, but it's good to see them. If they 00:40:44.780 --> 00:40:47.679 manage to get past us, if we get through as well, 00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:49.920 then I would want them to win the Champions League 00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:53.380 out of this for the story. So I neither watched 00:40:53.380 --> 00:40:55.739 this nor watched the highlights because I could 00:40:55.739 --> 00:40:57.619 not find the highlights package for this game. 00:40:58.389 --> 00:41:00.969 It just seems like nobody cared about this, or 00:41:00.969 --> 00:41:04.170 nobody cared to make a highlights package. But 00:41:04.170 --> 00:41:06.809 apparently Bodo glimped up playing the best football 00:41:06.809 --> 00:41:11.190 in Europe. That's what I'm hearing. I mean, they're 00:41:11.190 --> 00:41:15.070 very, like, you can see that they're, at least 00:41:15.070 --> 00:41:18.809 in the games I've watched, or from what my brothers 00:41:18.809 --> 00:41:22.409 told me, because he's watched their games, they're 00:41:22.409 --> 00:41:25.789 just very, like, efficient, I guess. They execute 00:41:25.789 --> 00:41:31.150 their plans within a very small degree of anything 00:41:31.150 --> 00:41:34.429 going wrong. So right now, it's like they're 00:41:34.429 --> 00:41:35.949 having the perfect game. A bit like Inter Milan 00:41:35.949 --> 00:41:38.530 last season, but how long can everything come 00:41:38.530 --> 00:41:42.210 off? Are we done with this, or do you have anything 00:41:42.210 --> 00:41:44.969 else to say? A good week for the La Liga teams, 00:41:45.130 --> 00:41:49.150 as I think we discussed it before. Well, we're 00:41:49.150 --> 00:41:51.909 not done yet. Oh, you mean for this game? Yeah. 00:41:52.150 --> 00:41:56.500 Okay, yeah. Okay, Real Madrid 3, Man City 0. 00:41:57.260 --> 00:42:01.920 And I'm totally the opposite of you. I think 00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:05.880 Man City are going to go through to the next 00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:08.420 round. I think they have them right where they 00:42:08.420 --> 00:42:12.260 want them. 3 -0 down? Yes. Okay, they have them 00:42:12.260 --> 00:42:15.019 right where they want them. Well, it's obviously 00:42:15.019 --> 00:42:17.940 unfortunate the score, but they're not out of 00:42:17.940 --> 00:42:21.079 reach. And Madrid have very poor defenders that 00:42:21.079 --> 00:42:24.440 can be exploited. They've had that before and 00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:27.260 won the Champions League. This is not the team 00:42:27.260 --> 00:42:31.260 of 2018. That's what everybody keeps assuming. 00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:34.280 But it's not just the team of 2018. There have 00:42:34.280 --> 00:42:36.039 been many times where they've been completely 00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:38.239 out of form in every other competition except 00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:40.480 the Champions League. And they've still won it. 00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:45.760 Again, in these moments, they had literal geniuses 00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:48.099 at the wheel. I'm talking about Luka Modric, 00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:52.760 Toni Kroos, right? And Carlo Ancelotti and Zidane. 00:42:52.940 --> 00:42:55.579 Yeah, I mean, that's all hypothetical because... 00:42:55.579 --> 00:42:57.559 The rest of the team, I'm not saying they didn't 00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:00.719 matter, but like Benzema had extreme clutch, 00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:05.739 like to the nth degree. Who does Madrid have 00:43:05.739 --> 00:43:09.960 that has clutch like that? Maybe like Rodrigo? 00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:12.820 Vinicius has clutch. Probably if he doesn't have 00:43:12.820 --> 00:43:15.139 anything else, he has clutch. I don't know about 00:43:15.139 --> 00:43:17.940 that. Mbappé has clutched, definitely. I think, 00:43:18.059 --> 00:43:21.300 yeah, two World Cups, he's been the best player 00:43:21.300 --> 00:43:24.639 in two World Cups. Sure. At the end of 24. No 00:43:24.639 --> 00:43:27.559 Champions League, though. He'll get it. I'm pretty 00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:31.000 sure he'll get it eventually, so... Okay. I just 00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:33.699 don't think Madrid are as good as people think. 00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:36.039 Same as... I don't think they're good at all, 00:43:36.099 --> 00:43:38.260 but I think... They just got a freak result, 00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:40.179 and now suddenly they're the favourites for the 00:43:40.179 --> 00:43:42.940 Champions League, is it? No, I'm not saying... 00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:45.619 They're the favorites based on anything football 00:43:45.619 --> 00:43:47.639 -related. I'm saying they have the mentality, 00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:49.719 and I think that's the most important thing in 00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:51.380 the Champions League. And I disagree with that. 00:43:51.420 --> 00:43:54.519 This is not the same team that did three in a 00:43:54.519 --> 00:43:57.800 row. It doesn't have to be, though. Yeah, but 00:43:57.800 --> 00:44:01.019 the players that had that mentality are no longer 00:44:01.019 --> 00:44:02.900 there. Didn't you just say football's not as 00:44:02.900 --> 00:44:04.940 good as it was? They don't have to have those 00:44:04.940 --> 00:44:07.119 players to win right now. But I think you're 00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:10.320 deliberately ignoring my point. I'm saying the 00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:13.760 same players... that I hear don't, I'm not saying 00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:15.840 their quality of play, I'm saying mentality. 00:44:16.380 --> 00:44:20.300 Do you think Trent has the same mentality that 00:44:20.300 --> 00:44:23.699 Carvajal had at the height of their performances? 00:44:23.900 --> 00:44:28.039 Do you think Carreras has the mentality of Marcelo? 00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:30.539 Do you think anybody in the team has the mentality 00:44:30.539 --> 00:44:33.599 of Cristiano Ronaldo? Take that out of it. He's 00:44:33.599 --> 00:44:36.539 a freak. Mentality -wise, they're not even close 00:44:36.539 --> 00:44:38.760 to those teams. I think that's your opinion. 00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:41.860 But I think Vinicius and Mbappe are two of the 00:44:41.860 --> 00:44:44.900 biggest mentality players in the world. And I'm 00:44:44.900 --> 00:44:47.539 saying based on one result. What about winning 00:44:47.539 --> 00:44:50.159 1 -0 against Benfica and being the worst team 00:44:50.159 --> 00:44:53.239 by far? Yeah, I mean, that's happened in the 00:44:53.239 --> 00:44:57.059 past. Benfica are a much worse team. They lost 00:44:57.059 --> 00:45:00.920 to AZ Alkmaar in the season they won the Champions 00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:04.659 League. This is Real Madrid. As long as they're 00:45:04.659 --> 00:45:06.559 in the game, they can win it in five minutes. 00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:08.699 I think you're just looking at a name and being 00:45:08.699 --> 00:45:11.340 lazy in your analysis. Sorry to say. Because, 00:45:11.460 --> 00:45:14.460 just because they're... I agree that they're 00:45:14.460 --> 00:45:16.539 not the Real Madrid of old. I'm just saying, 00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:18.619 I think they can, as long as they stay in the 00:45:18.619 --> 00:45:21.539 game, unless a team thrashes them. they can win 00:45:21.539 --> 00:45:24.380 that game in the last 10 minutes, 100%. All right, 00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:27.400 like I said, City are going through. It's pretty 00:45:27.400 --> 00:45:30.840 clear in my mind. And is this the right time 00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:34.500 to say that I didn't watch the match? I didn't 00:45:34.500 --> 00:45:36.780 watch the match. You said City were going to 00:45:36.780 --> 00:45:39.599 thump them in this game. And I didn't watch the 00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:41.980 highlights because, once again, there wasn't 00:45:41.980 --> 00:45:44.400 a highlights package available. So what am I 00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:47.920 supposed to do? And I'm glad if Abelor, I don't 00:45:47.920 --> 00:45:49.860 know if he followed my advice, but I did say 00:45:49.860 --> 00:45:53.239 that Valverde needs to be closer to goal. He 00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:55.559 could be good as a number 10. That's not the, 00:45:55.659 --> 00:45:58.340 I mean, excuse me. Thank you, Abelor, for listening 00:45:58.340 --> 00:46:03.559 to me. Okay. Now here's the rub. If you want 00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:07.579 Trent to play as you assume he would play, he 00:46:07.579 --> 00:46:10.280 needs Valverde to hold his hand. Valverde can't 00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:12.320 get forward. Yeah, I don't think Valverde has 00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:14.710 to be a right back. No, I'm not saying right 00:46:14.710 --> 00:46:17.469 back. I'm saying he needs to be at the right 00:46:17.469 --> 00:46:19.750 -hand side at midfield. He cannot get forward 00:46:19.750 --> 00:46:23.269 because if he does get forward, that entire space 00:46:23.269 --> 00:46:25.829 is left open. But I think they could just use 00:46:25.829 --> 00:46:27.590 a different right winger. I think Valverde is 00:46:27.590 --> 00:46:31.269 much better centrally. No, not winger. I'm saying... 00:46:31.269 --> 00:46:34.269 So they're playing 4 -3 -3, right? Yeah. The 00:46:34.269 --> 00:46:37.210 midfield three, the right -hand side and midfielder. 00:46:37.289 --> 00:46:39.369 I don't think Valverde needs to hold his hand 00:46:39.369 --> 00:46:42.010 as much as you think. Have you watched Trent 00:46:42.010 --> 00:46:44.690 play this season? I don't need to watch him play. 00:46:44.750 --> 00:46:46.269 I've watched him play over his whole career. 00:46:46.369 --> 00:46:48.650 He's a dogshit defender. No, okay, let me take 00:46:48.650 --> 00:46:51.590 that back. He is a dogshit defender, but it's 00:46:51.590 --> 00:46:55.670 not that he's bad, which he is bad, but it's 00:46:55.670 --> 00:46:58.289 also that he's lazy. Yeah, but I think you're 00:46:58.289 --> 00:47:03.110 overanalyzing him a bit. Why is that? Because 00:47:03.110 --> 00:47:05.909 I think he's the type of player that can create 00:47:05.909 --> 00:47:07.389 chances. That's all Madrid needs. Has he even 00:47:07.389 --> 00:47:09.800 made chances this season? He's been injured for 00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:11.760 like most of the season. Yeah, but when he's 00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:14.719 played, once again, I feel like you're basing 00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:17.059 it off his name and reputation, not on what he's 00:47:17.059 --> 00:47:19.860 done this season. No, I'm basing it off of how 00:47:19.860 --> 00:47:21.920 I analyze coaching. I think players have to be 00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:24.519 played into form. You have to look at, like you 00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:26.500 can say, oh, okay, take this player out now. 00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:29.300 Or below, whoever it is could be saying, we need 00:47:29.300 --> 00:47:31.880 this player for the big moments, even if they're 00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:34.139 not the best defensively. If it works out, if 00:47:34.139 --> 00:47:36.139 Real Madrid beat Man City 3 -0, what can you 00:47:36.139 --> 00:47:39.539 say? Well, what I've heard is they had three 00:47:39.539 --> 00:47:43.820 Castillo boys playing. And the big name or the 00:47:43.820 --> 00:47:46.760 big story of the night is that there's a guy 00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:50.699 named Thiago Pitak who was very good. Now, I'm 00:47:50.699 --> 00:47:53.539 not sure what position he plays or whatever he 00:47:53.539 --> 00:47:57.980 did, but apparently he was very good in the game. 00:47:58.360 --> 00:48:00.820 Yeah, I mean... You watch La Liga more than me, 00:48:00.860 --> 00:48:04.400 so I'm sure you can speak to... Can you at least 00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.320 tell me what position he plays? I don't know. 00:48:08.539 --> 00:48:12.619 All right. Thanks to our La Liga correspondent. 00:48:13.099 --> 00:48:15.900 I mean, I said I prefer La Liga, but I've kind 00:48:15.900 --> 00:48:17.639 of admitted that I haven't watched much football 00:48:17.639 --> 00:48:20.559 this year at all. Not just La Liga, Premier League, 00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:23.659 anything. That's why I haven't made the last 00:48:23.659 --> 00:48:28.599 few episodes as well. All right. But yeah, the 00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:31.840 main story is Thiago Patak. He's the... Well, 00:48:31.940 --> 00:48:34.059 a lot of Real Madrid fans are saying he should 00:48:34.059 --> 00:48:37.000 be starting above whatever person is in his current 00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:40.199 position. Let me check quick. But, I mean, at 00:48:40.199 --> 00:48:42.659 the end of the day, I haven't watched much football, 00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:46.820 bro. I just know La Liga tends to come out on 00:48:46.820 --> 00:48:48.880 trumps when it comes to Champions League and 00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:50.800 Europa League. I don't know why you're checking. 00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:55.139 This is right here in front of me. Patak, he 00:48:55.139 --> 00:48:58.010 was on the left -hand side of midfield. So the 00:48:58.010 --> 00:49:00.570 midfield was Choumeny, Valverde on the right, 00:49:00.590 --> 00:49:04.909 Patak on the left and Goulet in the 10. Yeah, 00:49:04.929 --> 00:49:08.750 but I think the little bits of the game... I 00:49:08.750 --> 00:49:11.110 mean, I did watch the game. I just didn't take 00:49:11.110 --> 00:49:14.510 cognizance of the guy's name or whatever. But 00:49:14.510 --> 00:49:18.170 from what I noticed, I think Goulet was playing 00:49:18.170 --> 00:49:20.869 slightly deeper and Valverde was occupying the 00:49:20.869 --> 00:49:24.190 higher positions in most of the game. I think... 00:49:24.730 --> 00:49:26.969 mostly for his counter -pressing as well, I guess, 00:49:26.989 --> 00:49:30.329 to put pressure on the Man City midfield, on 00:49:30.329 --> 00:49:34.269 Rodri and the centre -halves. I've always thought 00:49:34.269 --> 00:49:36.250 Valverde is one of the best players in the world. 00:49:37.010 --> 00:49:40.610 Again, when you're asking me, is this Real Madrid 00:49:40.610 --> 00:49:43.130 team having players of all... I think they have, 00:49:43.250 --> 00:49:46.110 in a lot of positions, one of the two or three 00:49:46.110 --> 00:49:49.050 best players in the world. But it's different 00:49:49.050 --> 00:49:52.510 than... You know the team that did the three 00:49:52.510 --> 00:49:54.730 -peat? It's not just that they had world -class 00:49:54.730 --> 00:49:58.610 players. It's just they also had a certain magic 00:49:58.610 --> 00:50:01.210 about them that you can't quantify. But not before 00:50:01.210 --> 00:50:04.969 they first won. Before they won the first, before 00:50:04.969 --> 00:50:08.130 they won La Decima, or not even because Modric 00:50:08.130 --> 00:50:10.489 and Kroos weren't there for La Decima, but before 00:50:10.489 --> 00:50:14.090 they won the first of the three -peat, they were 00:50:14.090 --> 00:50:16.670 always being compared to Xavi and Iniesta, saying 00:50:16.670 --> 00:50:18.929 that they would never be there. these are players 00:50:18.929 --> 00:50:21.010 who aren't on that level and then they want everything 00:50:21.010 --> 00:50:24.110 so i'm saying if they can break that once these 00:50:24.110 --> 00:50:25.929 are some of the best players in the world easy 00:50:25.929 --> 00:50:29.070 kamavinga with confidence too many with confidence 00:50:29.070 --> 00:50:31.190 the squad's not as bad as everyone thinks it 00:50:31.190 --> 00:50:34.309 is i just don't think they have the the guidance 00:50:34.309 --> 00:50:38.429 you know i that can be argued i don't know much 00:50:38.429 --> 00:50:41.690 about albaloa honestly but because what he's 00:50:41.690 --> 00:50:45.480 done is kind of gear the team towards Mbappe 00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:48.559 and Vinicius to an extent. They don't track back 00:50:48.559 --> 00:50:50.800 at all. In the games that I've watched them, 00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:53.639 the two games against Benfica and one La Liga 00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:56.880 game that I watched, they don't track back. They 00:50:56.880 --> 00:50:58.619 just play like in transition. But I mean, I think 00:50:58.619 --> 00:51:01.519 he had Valverde leading the press yesterday, 00:51:01.679 --> 00:51:04.519 so that showed some sort of adaptability on his 00:51:04.519 --> 00:51:07.559 part. Maybe he's learning on the job. You never 00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:11.300 know. Could be. Could be. Are we done here? Yeah. 00:51:11.739 --> 00:51:13.980 Alright, well, thank you for listening. Please 00:51:13.980 --> 00:51:17.260 remember to rate, review, subscribe, give a like, 00:51:17.420 --> 00:51:21.539 etc. Comment. Importantly, it needs to be a five 00:51:21.539 --> 00:51:25.059 -star review. 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