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And welcome back to the PD Football Podcast.

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My name is Presh. My name is Darren. And how

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are you doing today? I'm okay. I'm okay. Just

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regularly fatigued from work. How's everything

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on your end? Well, I've been speaking about the

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Dune audiobook. I finished that. Like I said,

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it was a... Again, I'm going to repeat what I

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said last week. There's a lot of fluff. And I'm

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glad the director cut it out. Unnecessary stuff.

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I'm glad the director cut it out for the movie.

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Now I've moved on to perhaps the greatest novel

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ever written. It's called Moby Dick or The Whale

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by Herman Melville. You know, the prose is wonderful.

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Again, I'm listening to audiobooks. I'm not actually

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reading. But it's wonderful to listen to. I mean,

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it is probably one of the most influential books

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ever written. Yeah, it's just a pleasure to listen

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to. That's all I'm going to say because I'm five

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hours into a 24 -hour audiobook, so still quite

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a lot to go. You have two -thirds of a day to

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go. Can we get straight into it or do you have

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other things you want to say? No, we can get

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straight into it. I don't really have anything

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on my mind. All right, so Atletico Madrid 4,

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Club Brugge 1, Atletico through 7 -4 on aggregate.

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I mean, they made it more difficult than they

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had to in the end, but probably what everyone

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expected. I mean, obviously, another good big

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game performance from Soloth. So it's looking

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like a good signing. I mean, I think their strike

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partnership, Alvarez is a bit out of form recently,

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but I think he's the type of player that will

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come back into form in the big games. I will

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say, okay, before we haven't even chatted about

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lineups and whatever, but I did think Alvarez

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had a poor game. He just didn't look... On it,

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I would say that. Yeah, I mean, he's had these

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moments, though. I think he is one of those players

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that can fade away a bit. But the nice thing

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about him is that he generally comes good in

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the big moments. So if they're there in the latter

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stages of the competition still, I probably expect

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him to come back to life. All right, so into

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the match. And the graphic before the match said,

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let's go in a 4 -4 -2. But in the match, it was

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more of a 4 -2 -3 -1 with Alvarez in the 10.

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So I don't watch Atletico week to week, so I

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don't know what their best 11 is. But their bench

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was stacked with players I would assume are starters.

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For example, Griezmann, Jimenez, Lukman, Lehmann

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-Norman. So I was a bit confused. This is a must

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-win game, or was a must -win game for Atletico.

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I wondered why they went so weak. I think he's

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been rotating a lot recently, so I think maybe

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those players, based on that we know them as

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the most established players in the squad, we'd

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assume they should be starting. But I think Lenormand

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has been injured a bit this season, has just

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got back, been a bit out of form. I think Griezmann

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hasn't been in the best form either. I do think

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that, you know, it could have just been Simeone

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tweaking organically. I don't think, I think

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it could just be him working with what he has

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based on the current form of the players, you

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know. I see. Brugge played in a 4 -1 -4 -1 and

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I haven't watched him this season, so I don't

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know if this is the usual formation or if this

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was a tactical tweak. to combat Atletico. But

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in the first 10 minutes, Brugger pressed aggressively

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and Atletico could not break out of it. They

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were simply stuck in their own half. But Brugger

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couldn't make their quick start count. Although

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I was particularly impressed by Forbes on Brugger's

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right hand side. He was getting in some good

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deliveries. Yeah, I mean, I think Atletico made

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a lot of sloppy mistakes in possession as well.

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First half, I think, gave the ball away quite

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a bit. So, I mean, I guess a better team, you

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would assume, probably could have put the game

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to bed if they had pressed them in the way Brugge

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did. But, I mean, you can only beat what's in

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front of you, as they say. So it's all about

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getting to the later stages. Atletico did enough.

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I think they needed an individual display. It's

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hard to say. It's hard to gauge much from that

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game in terms of, I don't think, I think given

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the result from the first leg, there could have

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been a bit of an expectation of Brugge that they

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might be able to spring an upset. But I think

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everyone knew that as long as the Lidico's defensive

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dynamics are okay, which they eventually got

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right, probably around the 30 -minute mark. And

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I think from then on, they were able to control

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the game, get their foot on the ball. Yeah, well,

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to me, it was the first 15 minutes. That's when

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Bruges were in the ascendancy. And Atletico soon

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settled and they got some position. And even

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in some portions, they played some classy one

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-touch football. This is actually a thing my

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friend told me like a while ago. He said that

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our impression of Atletico Madrid is that they

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sit deep and hit you on the counter because we

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only watch them in the big matches. But in La

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Liga, they... don't have that luxury. They have

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to come out and play against the smaller teams.

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So he told me that Atletico are actually underrated

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because we don't get to see their creative back.

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I mean, I agree. I mean, I've always liked Simeone.

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I think, well, again, Simeone and Mateta are

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very similar to me. I think they both focus on

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controlling games, just in a different way to

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what people expect. I think the idea is still

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to use the players you have to control the dynamics

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of the game so that your team benefits It's more

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than the opposition. So, I mean, you know, it's

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hard to criticize. Like, it depends where you

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sit on Atletico. It seems like Simeone's worked

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miracles on a shoestring budget at times. And

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then he seems to have let himself down when he's

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got a big budget. So, it's a hard one to gauge,

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you know. But I think, like, I was impressed

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with Koke yesterday. I think he wound back the

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years a bit. It was like a bit of the Koke of

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old. The one who refused to go anywhere and stay

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at Atletico Madrid, you know. I was impressed

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by him so I think in a way I think Simeone is

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a good man manager probably one of the best in

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the game I think he knows how to get the most

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out of a player help them get close to their

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ceiling maybe he doesn't always especially defensive

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players I would say attackers as well like if

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you look at someone like Griezmann I think he's

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only really flourished in the Simeone system

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I think maybe he struggles with other players

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because he can't adapt the system to suit a specific

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player but again I think he's a manager like

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Oteto who brings the floor and the ceiling very

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close together. Now, maybe if you're used to

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watching Jurgen Klopp or Pep Guardiola where

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the ceiling is very high and there's kind of

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a larger gap, I think it's a different idea of

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control, you know. I think... I don't know. I

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think Simeone and Klopp are in the same sort

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of bracket. But that's just my opinion. I would

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say they're in the same bracket as in terms of...

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the style of their approach to to like man management

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i'd say that the man management is i mean like

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in terms of i guess respect like i i would put

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guardiola in a chair above the both of them yeah

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i mean guardiola obviously he's the he's the

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He's the king, I guess. And I'm only talking

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about, like, current managers. Like, leave Sialix

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and Ancelotti, who are semi -retired, out of

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it. Just talk about current managers. I guess

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Klopp is semi -retired as well. Yeah, I mean,

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well, for me, like, it depends how you're measuring

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it. I would say Klopp and Pep are ahead of everyone

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else. But, I mean, you know. Alright, whatever

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the case is. So, I said that they were playing

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some classy one -touch football, but their goal

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came with one ball over the top. And Bruges were...

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Just open up. I think generally because of how

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well the teams in the Champions League have been

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pressing this season, I've seen a lot of the

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long ball come back into play. A bit of like

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early 2000s Ancelotti ball. Just the holding

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midfielder swings the diagonals or the fullback

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swing the diagonals. Just try to take advantage

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of the space the team leaves while pressing high.

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I mean, I think that's the problem with like

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pressing high or like making... pressing a high

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pressing i guess the the main point in your defensive

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approach or the the fundamental point in your

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defensive approach is is probably that if you

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have technical players in the center half or

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center mid position they're really comfortable

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dribbling out it's like i think a lot of teams

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live and die by their high press and unless you

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have the players to score three or four goals

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every game i think you're taking a huge risk

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doing that you know So for that goal, it was

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Sawloth who collected it, held off the defender,

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shot through the legs of the defender, and Mignolet

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couldn't get down fast enough to prevent the

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goal going in. 1 -0 to Atlético. Good finish.

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Could have been better defending and better keeping,

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arguably. I would argue that Mignolet, his positioning

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was wrong. Not that I'm some goalkeeping guy

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that knows all the things. From what I've seen

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in training, it's that you want the keeper to

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be as low as possible. Because you can kind of

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spring upwards. The only thing I would give him

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was that... The snapshot was so quick, it was

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like... And I guess it went through the defender's

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legs. Yeah, it was terrible defending, because

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also, I think in Mignolet's mind, he could have

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been assuming that the defender would do his

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job, shift the play wider, and he'd have to block

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the back post. So I think he lined up his body

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in the way the defender did a poor job, and I

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think the power on the shot was really good,

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so he couldn't get down in time. So then Brugge...

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Is it Brugge or Brugge? Brugge. The town is called

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Bruges, but the club, I think it's called Brugge,

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but whatever. It just depends. Bruges gained

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possession and Atletico were happy for them to

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have the ball. Bruges created chances and their

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goal came from a corner. They won the first ball

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and then flicked it onto the back post where

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the player had it in. I don't know the name of

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that player, but he went off for treatment. So

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the commentator suggested that because he was

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off the pitch and Atletico settled their defense,

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they weren't... expecting him to get what I'm

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saying because he wasn't there when they set

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up the it was like a sucker punch yeah kind of

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it's 1 -1 at halftime and Brugge are probably

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the happier team they're in the ascendancy going

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into the break I guess or they've wrestled back

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the momentum you know so I guess the nerves the

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nerves are there as well from the Atletico players

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because I guess you could see at halftime they

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were a bit like a bit shocked you know And then

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almost immediately as the second half begins,

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the Brugge defender heads out across and Johnny

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Cardoza gathers and shoots a long -range shot

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which goes into the corner. 2 -1 to Atletico.

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Yeah, good goal. Great technique. Nothing else

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you can... I mean... It didn't take a deflection.

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It was just very sweetly hit. Sweetly hit, yeah.

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I think similar to the goal Tonali scored in

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the FA Cup two weeks ago. Yes, it was. No, I

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think the Ternali goal was way better. But I

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get what you're saying. The technique and the

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positioning on the pitch. But I will say that

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the club roof defending was also awful. They

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kind of laid off. He had a lot of space and time,

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especially, like you said, on a reactionary moment

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where the defenders had the larger numbers. They

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kind of just gave him the space to shoot as well.

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So for the next 20 minutes or so, Atleti sat

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deep. and waited for a counter while all the

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attacking came from brugge but unfortunately

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they had no goal to show for it eventually atleti's

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plan comes together when we get some excellent

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play from lookman and griezmann on the counter

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which leads to a tap in for sawloth 3 -1 to atletico

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and this kind of kills off the tie the brugge

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players were tired and it looked like they gave

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up after yeah i think the the physical difference

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in the players the could also be seen more you

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know i think catalytic codeless grew into their

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own i guess kind of control the game yes and

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i i was thinking oh wow they went so weak uh

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simone showed me that uh actually uh this team

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was good enough to to beat brooker right then

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uh saw lot scores his hat trick from a corner

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routine And then the tie really is dead at 4

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-1. 4 -1 to Atletico on the night and 7 -4 in

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aggregate. Yeah, congrats to Atletico. Yeah,

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but we kind of assumed that this would happen.

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Brugge put up a good fight, but, you know, it's

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just what we expected it to be. Yeah, I mean,

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congrats to Brugge for putting up a good fight.

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And congrats to Atletico for getting through.

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Okay, next we have... Oh, excuse me. Do you have

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anything else you want to say about the match

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or the tie? in general because i didn't watch

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the first leg so if you wanna i mean i guess

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in the end it looks comfortable but the only

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thing i would say is that probably over the the

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course of both games was probably an even game

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i think from what i understand in the first leg

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i just watched the highlights but from what i

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understand club brujo also the better team so

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i mean atletico they've had these seasons before

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they've had like peaks and troughs so i'm sure

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they'll be They'll be in the last eight. They're

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there about somehow. So yeah, I think this is

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the expected result. Nothing else to say. Okay.

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Then we have Inter Milan 1, Bodo Glam 2. Bodo

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threw 5 -2 on aggregate. It's quite a humbling

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of a European giant from a minnow. It's good.

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I mean, when is the last time I guess we had

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this sort of Champions League elimination? You

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know, it's been a while, I guess. And Bodo are

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like a percentage of a percentage of their wage

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bill. I mean, of like a super team's wage bill.

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Yeah. That's... Yeah. So, Inter set up in their

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usual 3 -5 -2. Obviously, they get defensive

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solidity from the back three, and it's the wingbacks

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who provide the creativity, or like, you know,

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the attacking images. The extra numbers in attack,

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yeah. Yes. So, people were talking about this

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match like it was a tactical masterclass from

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Bodo, but it was just a standard Jose Mourinho,

00:14:09.470 --> 00:14:12.740
Diego Simeone parking the bus job. Bodo were

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defending in a 4 -4 -2 deep block and staying

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very compact. They were happy to sit back and

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cede the wings to Inter, who put in a bunch of

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crosses that were easily dealt with. Because,

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you know, instead of having everyone out on the

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wings to cover the wings, everyone was in the

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middle. So they could easily deal with the balls

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because they had the numerical advantage in the

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middle. So due to this, all the play was coming

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from Inter. But there was nothing decisive. Just

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a bunch of block shots. Long range shots that

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don't test the keeper. Crosses with no venom

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and poor set pieces. I mean, Bodo were very well

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drilled. I mean, they kept their distances extremely

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well, I think. It was a proper Champions League

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level tie. That's what I can give them. I think

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Inter would probably have been expecting that

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they could... push their weight around a bit

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and you know use their name I'm sure like everyone

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was expecting that at some point the bigger team

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would make the different show but it's kind of

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like I mean Bodo had a game plan they executed

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it and I think they also scored one of the goals

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of the tournament so excellent build up excellent

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finish it's not easy I hope they go as deep as

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they can as well but I do think that It was like

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Inter kind of also didn't push, I didn't think,

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didn't push enough. They could have maybe changed

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the formation, committed more numbers to attack.

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I don't think there's a need to keep the back

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five. But I mean, you know, from what I understand,

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Chivu is one of the managers who doesn't really

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drift from his back three. That's why I guess

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they got him as the Inzaghi replacement. But

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I think it's a lot of the similar problems that

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you had with Inzaghi. Like if I think back to

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Inzaghi last season, they had a... They were

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very good against big teams, but I think against

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the smaller teams where they're just going to

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sit and hold the shape, then the back three becomes

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a little bit easier to play against if you beat

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the initial press. Because then there's gaps

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in, especially if you have pacey wingers or people

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who are good at swinging diagonals. So I think

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Inter will win the league in Serie A. I think

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they look still... close enough to Nzaghi's Inter,

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but I think they have the same problems with

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Nzaghi's Inter, you know. All right. All in all,

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it was a very boring first half. It was a test

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of if Inter could break down Bodo, and they failed

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spectacularly. It was 0 -0 at halftime. Around

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the 60th minute, it was just a regular situation

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where Akanji just had to clear the ball, and

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Bodo just started pressing aggressively. There

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were suddenly three men around him, and he made

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a mistake, which led to a Bodo tap -in. he does

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he i mean that has always been i guess a part

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of his game right i think it's part of probably

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why pep got rid of him because apparently uh

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it was akanji who wanted to leave he saw that

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there were so many center backs at city already

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he wasn't getting uh i mean he wasn't going to

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get in Well, this is what I read the other day

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before the match. That being said, he did have

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sort of a head injury. We were just watching

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the highlights now. You saw his head was wrapped.

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Yeah, he was bandaged. So a lot of people have

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pointed to that and said perhaps he should have

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been subbed for possible concussion or that kind

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of thing. Yeah, I mean, that aside, I think he's

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always really had the problem of... He's not

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really the most press -resistant defender. I

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think if there was a weakness in Manchester City

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when they did win the treble, usually I think

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teams would target Akanji. I think he would be

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the one that you would press high, you would

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double up on, because I feel he was probably

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the weak point where you were most likely to

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make a mistake. He's always had that in his game,

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but I still think he gives you a lot as a defender.

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It's like a give -and -take almost. Well, there's

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no, like, perfect player. Yeah, exactly. He just

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has that thing of making... The mistakes he does

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make generally are very atrocious. Like, they

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lead directly to a goal. He's always at the scene

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of the crime, as it were. Yeah, exactly. But

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Neuer was the same. He hardly made a mistake

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when he made it. It was a Treadlick one, you

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know. So just a couple of minutes later after

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that goal, Bodo scored on the counter again.

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Just a... A well -worked counter and the finish

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was exquisite. Exquisite, yeah. You were saying

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one of the best goals of the... The Champions

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League so far. The Champions League so far. And,

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yeah, that was the game for me. It's 2 -0 up.

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Inter Milan scored like a consolation later on.

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I'm not going to lie to you, I fell asleep. Because

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this game was very boring. Just a lucky... I

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mean, a chaotic goal. So, yeah. At 2 -0, I fell

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asleep. So, I missed the... the inter goal but

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uh the last talking point i want to bring up

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about this game before we close it off i don't

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know what you else else you want to say but this

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is my last thing so bodo is in their off season

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they haven't played a game since november they

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have been keeping fit by playing friendlies and

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training in mabea so to me you can spin it any

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way you want either they're fresh because they

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haven't been playing much or they're out of form

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because they haven't been playing much right

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so you can make an argument for or against but

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do you think it's a positive or negative that

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they haven't been in league competition um I

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would say, has this happened before? They've

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been in the Champions League quite a few times.

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Is their league always down during this time

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of the year because of the winter? Yes, their

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league is from March to November. Oh, okay. I

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don't know. They've gone further than they've

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ever gone. I think more that maybe the coaching

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is improving in Bodo. Maybe the football culture

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is improving. I think irrespective of whether

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it comes during the season or the off -season,

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I think you just have to do your job, beat what's

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in front of you. It's hard to say whether it

00:20:04.380 --> 00:20:06.619
benefits you or doesn't, depending on the players

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you have. Obviously, we could watch our teams

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in the Premier League every week and say, damn,

00:20:10.940 --> 00:20:15.980
you know the players need a rest. But the question

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is, we've also seen where teams have large breaks

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or players get injured, go to the World Cup,

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go to AFCON, come back and they're completely

00:20:24.539 --> 00:20:29.779
different players. So it's hard to gauge. I would

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say this season it's benefited them because they've

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gone further than they've ever gone. So overall,

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I would think... From a coaching perspective,

00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:40.220
from a football perspective, I would say it's

00:20:40.220 --> 00:20:42.539
a negative. Because I would think the momentum

00:20:42.539 --> 00:20:45.359
of playing at the top level every week. It's

00:20:45.359 --> 00:20:47.619
like, for example, if they have to play, let's

00:20:47.619 --> 00:20:50.680
just say, a team who's in full flow. Like Barcelona,

00:20:50.960 --> 00:20:55.059
Arsenal, Manchester City, Bayern Munich. I feel

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like then the difference will tell a lot more,

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you know. Alright, so anything else to say about

00:21:00.460 --> 00:21:03.200
Inter 1, Bodo Glam 2? No, not really. I mean,

00:21:03.259 --> 00:21:07.119
sad for Inter. I like Inter Milan. This is actually

00:21:07.119 --> 00:21:10.539
probably the most high -profile elimination of

00:21:10.539 --> 00:21:13.779
the round. It's the only upset, really, right?

00:21:14.220 --> 00:21:18.460
Well, we'll go through them. Maybe Galatasaray

00:21:18.460 --> 00:21:21.920
-Ventus, but that's a little bit more equal rather

00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:25.390
than... Yeah, I mean, it's an upset overall,

00:21:25.509 --> 00:21:28.069
but after the first leg, it's kind of expected,

00:21:28.309 --> 00:21:31.829
but yeah. Alright, so Atalanta 4, Dortmund 1.

00:21:32.130 --> 00:21:35.589
Atalanta threw 4 -3 on aggregate. So, meaning

00:21:35.589 --> 00:21:38.450
Dortmund won 2 -0 in the first leg. Yeah, I mean,

00:21:38.450 --> 00:21:41.950
everyone thought this one was buried. I saw a

00:21:41.950 --> 00:21:45.890
post about the downfall of Italian football.

00:21:47.110 --> 00:21:48.710
because Juventus were on the verge of getting

00:21:48.710 --> 00:21:50.509
knocked out, Inter on the verge of getting knocked

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out, Atalanta on the verge of getting knocked

00:21:52.769 --> 00:21:55.549
out. It was looking bad. We'll talk about Juventus

00:21:55.549 --> 00:21:57.990
just now. Inter were the only ones who kind of

00:21:57.990 --> 00:22:01.690
made a fool of themselves, in my opinion. Atalanta,

00:22:01.809 --> 00:22:04.410
they kept their heads down. They just worked

00:22:04.410 --> 00:22:07.250
really hard in this game. Yeah, I mean, they

00:22:07.250 --> 00:22:09.049
were under the cough for a bit. I think Dortmund

00:22:09.049 --> 00:22:11.779
were the better team in the first half. Well,

00:22:11.779 --> 00:22:14.119
first of all, it was a bizarre match and both

00:22:14.119 --> 00:22:16.900
teams played with a back three. Yeah, which is,

00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:20.200
I mean, I guess it minimizes the margins because

00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:22.960
there's less room for error on both sides, but

00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:24.859
it makes the game less entertaining, usually.

00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:28.640
They kind of went man for man. Yeah, all over

00:22:28.640 --> 00:22:32.000
the park. All over the park, yeah. So, for the

00:22:32.000 --> 00:22:35.759
first 25 minutes, it was all atalanta. They scored

00:22:35.759 --> 00:22:39.400
very early on. I joined the... watch late they

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scored within the first five minutes so i missed

00:22:41.460 --> 00:22:44.440
that goal i can't speak to it and there was no

00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:48.099
highlights package so uh i couldn't write it

00:22:48.099 --> 00:22:51.880
but uh apparently scamaka scored uh former west

00:22:51.880 --> 00:22:54.240
ham player who did not light up the premier league

00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:57.039
when he was at west ham but italian fans love

00:22:57.039 --> 00:22:59.920
him though yeah i'm glad that he's found uh a

00:22:59.920 --> 00:23:04.039
place where he fits in and he's doing well. I

00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:06.599
thought Dortmund were very lucky to be one down.

00:23:08.910 --> 00:23:10.829
And I saw another tweet that said... So actually,

00:23:10.910 --> 00:23:13.289
I started watching the game from like the 25th

00:23:13.289 --> 00:23:16.069
minute or so. And when I started watching it,

00:23:16.089 --> 00:23:17.910
it seemed like Dortmund were in the ascendancy,

00:23:17.990 --> 00:23:19.869
which is why I made the comment earlier that

00:23:19.869 --> 00:23:22.289
it seemed like they dominated the first half,

00:23:22.369 --> 00:23:25.910
but I didn't watch before that. So I saw this

00:23:25.910 --> 00:23:28.809
tweet that said Atalanta scored at all the quote

00:23:28.809 --> 00:23:32.329
-unquote nice times to score. So very early on

00:23:32.329 --> 00:23:33.990
within the first five minutes, that's a nice

00:23:33.990 --> 00:23:36.650
time to score. Straight after halftime? Just

00:23:36.650 --> 00:23:38.990
before halftime, you know, going into the break,

00:23:39.049 --> 00:23:43.349
they scored by a long shot which took a wicked

00:23:43.349 --> 00:23:46.769
deflection on the stroke of halftime from Zappacosta.

00:23:47.589 --> 00:23:50.450
He scored a really, like I said, it was a wicked

00:23:50.450 --> 00:23:53.170
deflection. He won the Champions League with

00:23:53.170 --> 00:23:56.240
Chelsea, right? I think maybe the Europa League.

00:23:56.660 --> 00:23:58.640
Maybe not the Champions League, but he could

00:23:58.640 --> 00:24:00.619
have been there. I was going to say, is he on

00:24:00.619 --> 00:24:05.140
track to win a second Champions League? No. I

00:24:05.140 --> 00:24:09.420
believe Rhys James was the right wing -back for

00:24:09.420 --> 00:24:11.200
that team. So maybe it was that Picasso was on

00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:13.960
the bench or something, but I don't remember

00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:18.380
him being a big part of that Chelsea team. I

00:24:18.380 --> 00:24:21.740
was also, again, Scamacca had some excellent

00:24:21.740 --> 00:24:25.200
hold -up play. Especially, like you said, Dortmund

00:24:25.200 --> 00:24:27.460
took over in the second portion of the first

00:24:27.460 --> 00:24:31.200
half. So it had to be Skamaka who, like, you

00:24:31.200 --> 00:24:32.960
know... Took the pressure off. Took the pressure

00:24:32.960 --> 00:24:35.640
off, yes. I mean, if there was anything that,

00:24:35.700 --> 00:24:40.539
I guess, when he was at West Ham, when everyone

00:24:40.539 --> 00:24:42.720
was calling him a flop or a waste of money or

00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:45.980
whatever, I think during that time, the one thing

00:24:45.980 --> 00:24:47.779
that always stood out was his hold -up play,

00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:50.279
his link -up play. It seemed like he could link

00:24:50.279 --> 00:24:53.450
the... like for the second and third phases of

00:24:53.450 --> 00:24:56.089
play really well so i'm glad he's kept that uh

00:24:56.089 --> 00:24:58.009
hopefully he lives up to the potential i mean

00:24:58.009 --> 00:25:01.279
when he went to west ham he was like a very highly

00:25:01.279 --> 00:25:04.420
spoken of player in the Serie A you know it was

00:25:04.420 --> 00:25:07.039
I think everyone was surprised West Ham managed

00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:09.339
to pull off his signature so hopefully he does

00:25:09.339 --> 00:25:12.140
hit his potential the games I've seen him I really

00:25:12.140 --> 00:25:14.180
like his link up and hold up play but I mean

00:25:14.180 --> 00:25:16.700
I've seen players like that as well with like

00:25:16.700 --> 00:25:20.140
Olivier Giroud for example the longer it goes

00:25:20.140 --> 00:25:23.099
on the more frustrating it gets so maybe Atalanta

00:25:23.099 --> 00:25:25.259
is a good team for him as opposed to stepping

00:25:25.259 --> 00:25:27.119
up into a team where he's always in the spotlight

00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:29.390
you know Another player I was really impressed

00:25:29.390 --> 00:25:33.589
by is Maxi Baier. He's a right wing for Dortmund.

00:25:33.789 --> 00:25:35.930
Actually, was he on the right wing? He's just

00:25:35.930 --> 00:25:37.589
a wing for Dortmund. I don't know what side because

00:25:37.589 --> 00:25:40.210
they had a very fluid front three that was, you

00:25:40.210 --> 00:25:43.670
know, swapping around and this and that. So whatever

00:25:43.670 --> 00:25:46.490
side he's on, he's a winger and I really liked

00:25:46.490 --> 00:25:48.609
him. I think he started on the left because I

00:25:48.609 --> 00:25:51.410
remember Adeyemi on the right for... No, Adeyemi

00:25:51.410 --> 00:25:54.730
came on in the second half. Oh, okay. Okay, but

00:25:54.730 --> 00:25:57.779
whatever the case is, I'm... if you notice i'm

00:25:57.779 --> 00:26:01.200
highlighting wingers like forbes in the in the

00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:04.400
brugger game uh maxi buyer in this game i'm just

00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:06.700
i've just been on the lookout for wingers i mean

00:26:06.700 --> 00:26:10.119
wingers have kind of like become the modern like

00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:13.079
i guess the like people say the the old number

00:26:13.079 --> 00:26:15.539
10 has faded out the game so like wingers have

00:26:15.539 --> 00:26:18.339
kind of become halfway between like strikers

00:26:18.339 --> 00:26:21.079
and number tens now because i guess they get

00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:23.420
a lot of both yeah a lot of wingers have to take

00:26:23.420 --> 00:26:25.980
on a large portion of the creativity and the

00:26:25.980 --> 00:26:32.170
finishing The second half, so it's 2 -0 to Atalanta

00:26:32.170 --> 00:26:35.089
at halftime. Again, another nice time to score

00:26:35.089 --> 00:26:38.230
just after halftime when you get back on the

00:26:38.230 --> 00:26:41.769
pitch. And Darun puts in an excellent cross with

00:26:41.769 --> 00:26:45.509
Pasalic headering home. To me, the big story

00:26:45.509 --> 00:26:49.289
here is what a fabulous cross it was. The glancing

00:26:49.289 --> 00:26:51.650
header, it was good. I don't want to take that

00:26:51.650 --> 00:26:53.430
away from him. But the cross kind of didn't leave

00:26:53.430 --> 00:26:56.109
you much to do. Yes, I love when the cross...

00:26:56.880 --> 00:26:59.180
to do is just tap it in just put your head on

00:26:59.180 --> 00:27:01.220
that's why it even makes the header look better

00:27:01.220 --> 00:27:03.980
like yes that's why kdb is one of my favorite

00:27:03.980 --> 00:27:06.480
players my number two favorite player because

00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:09.160
you know he was so good at that he would just

00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:11.900
he'd put it right on your toe and you just had

00:27:11.900 --> 00:27:16.319
a move your leg forward yeah so yeah the beginning

00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:19.359
of the second half like i said atlanta took control

00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:24.190
again And Niko Kovac made some subs. He brought

00:27:24.190 --> 00:27:27.269
on Karim Adeyemi. He brought on Connie Chukwumeka.

00:27:27.609 --> 00:27:30.630
He brought on... He just made a bunch of subs.

00:27:30.730 --> 00:27:32.990
I didn't note them down at the time. I just noted

00:27:32.990 --> 00:27:36.170
these two because it was those two who combined

00:27:36.170 --> 00:27:38.470
to score the goal. It was a really excellent

00:27:38.470 --> 00:27:44.309
curling goal from Adeyemi, yes. But yes, in general,

00:27:44.329 --> 00:27:46.869
the subs made a difference for Dortmund. And

00:27:46.869 --> 00:27:50.059
I thought, okay, it's 2 -1. What is it? 3 -3

00:27:50.059 --> 00:27:53.759
on aggregate? No, not 3 -3 on aggregate. 2 -3

00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:57.619
on aggregate. No, no, sorry. Pasalic just scored,

00:27:57.740 --> 00:28:01.099
so it was 3 -1. 3 -1, yes. So it's 3 -3 on aggregate.

00:28:01.660 --> 00:28:04.759
So I was like, alright, this is really... Heating

00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:06.880
up. Heating up. And it became kind of like a

00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:09.839
basketball game. It was up and down. Atalanta

00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:11.900
had a shot. Dortmund had a shot. Atalanta had

00:28:11.900 --> 00:28:13.660
a shot. I guess it was like the polar opposite

00:28:13.660 --> 00:28:16.880
of the Inter Milan game. It was. This is the

00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:19.740
type of game I like to watch. In the Champions

00:28:19.740 --> 00:28:23.339
League tie, right? It's very like two teams that

00:28:23.339 --> 00:28:26.019
want to attack. That want to, you know, get to

00:28:26.019 --> 00:28:28.700
it. But clearly in this game, one team was much

00:28:28.700 --> 00:28:32.119
better at scoring than the other. Because not

00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:35.490
the last kick of the... So roughly like the 90th

00:28:35.490 --> 00:28:38.990
minute, there's a, the goalkeeper gives the ball

00:28:38.990 --> 00:28:43.029
away to an Atalanta attacker. And he goes forward

00:28:43.029 --> 00:28:47.269
and puts a ball in. Ben Saibini. So I don't really

00:28:47.269 --> 00:28:50.190
know how to say that chap's name. Ben Saibini.

00:28:50.329 --> 00:28:53.150
Ben Sabani. However, say it however you want.

00:28:53.210 --> 00:28:55.910
He just, he kicked the dog shit out of the Atalanta

00:28:55.910 --> 00:28:59.730
defender. He just. I'm not a defender, the Atalanta

00:28:59.730 --> 00:29:02.109
attacker, there was blood pouring out of his

00:29:02.109 --> 00:29:05.569
face. And the referee, I don't know why the referee

00:29:05.569 --> 00:29:09.269
needed VAR, but the referee needed VAR to award

00:29:09.269 --> 00:29:11.740
the penalty, even though he just... Literally

00:29:11.740 --> 00:29:14.920
just kicked him in the face. Like, I understand

00:29:14.920 --> 00:29:17.160
he was going for the ball, but he missed. I mean,

00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:20.319
again, last week we blamed the Premier League,

00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:22.980
but I think the Premier League is still the worst

00:29:22.980 --> 00:29:24.680
as far as the refereeing is concerned. Yeah,

00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:26.759
because the thing is, the right decision was

00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:29.259
eventually reached. Whereas in the Premier League,

00:29:29.380 --> 00:29:31.019
they probably wouldn't have. Wouldn't have reached

00:29:31.019 --> 00:29:34.339
the right decision either way. But I guess it's

00:29:34.339 --> 00:29:37.799
more like... i want to get the right decisions

00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:40.200
all the time as a football fan like it's in the

00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:43.259
fairness of the sport but i also i really don't

00:29:43.259 --> 00:29:45.900
like uh like when it's like the game dies for

00:29:45.900 --> 00:29:48.240
five minutes then you add on seven minutes at

00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:50.839
the end of the game and well they usually don't

00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:53.380
even do that they'll add on two minutes for a

00:29:53.380 --> 00:29:57.559
five minute stoppage so that's time wasters uh

00:29:57.559 --> 00:30:01.700
you know get the best out of it because you can

00:30:01.700 --> 00:30:04.319
waste time for like 10 minutes and only get two

00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:06.700
minutes of extra time again my thing is just

00:30:06.700 --> 00:30:10.559
follow the the lead of rugby i guess just listen

00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:13.079
to what the var says that's the final decision

00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:15.619
don't question it like well that's i i felt the

00:30:15.619 --> 00:30:18.759
same the same way right i just thought you don't

00:30:18.759 --> 00:30:23.150
need to go over to a tv yeah yes tell them the

00:30:23.150 --> 00:30:26.730
VAR reviews it and tells them a decision and

00:30:26.730 --> 00:30:28.930
then they just go with it. Now, the argument

00:30:28.930 --> 00:30:31.569
against it that I've heard is that, quote unquote,

00:30:31.869 --> 00:30:35.009
the referee feels as if though they're not really

00:30:35.009 --> 00:30:37.130
reffing the game, that it's being taken out of

00:30:37.130 --> 00:30:40.259
their hands. To which I reply, is it about the

00:30:40.259 --> 00:30:42.119
referee's feelings or is it about getting the

00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:45.500
right decisions? Yeah, the referee is essentially...

00:30:45.500 --> 00:30:48.880
The referee shouldn't be thinking about putting

00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:52.059
themselves on a pedestal within the context of

00:30:52.059 --> 00:30:56.200
a game. They're like the officiator. they're

00:30:56.200 --> 00:30:58.059
not the players they're not the coaches nobody

00:30:58.059 --> 00:31:00.920
is watching to see mike dean the referee yeah

00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:03.519
no one is tricking anthony taylor who cares what

00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:06.140
anthony taylor is doing or about his technique

00:31:06.140 --> 00:31:14.880
all right uh yes so this causes a big kerfuffle

00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.559
though the warding of the penalty um there was

00:31:18.559 --> 00:31:20.920
a red shown to the atalanta bench i'm not sure

00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:24.079
who got that red card nico schlotterbeck also

00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:27.460
got a red card uh on the bench he didn't play

00:31:27.460 --> 00:31:29.880
the game uh i read because he's just coming back

00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:32.759
from injury i actually really wanted to see schlotter

00:31:32.759 --> 00:31:36.720
back play because i'm very apparently he's being

00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:38.759
looked at as one of the van dyke replacements

00:31:38.759 --> 00:31:43.619
so uh you know i mean generally obviously i've

00:31:43.619 --> 00:31:45.480
read a lot about him i haven't watched him as

00:31:45.480 --> 00:31:47.839
much as i'd like to but Well, that's the same

00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:50.400
with me. I just heard a lot about him. I've never

00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:55.299
seen him play, so that's why I went out of my

00:31:55.299 --> 00:31:58.420
way because this was the earlier Champions League

00:31:58.420 --> 00:32:01.359
game. This match was at 7 .45. I thought he was

00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:05.900
really good in the final or the semi -final of

00:32:05.900 --> 00:32:08.210
the Champions League a couple of years ago. He

00:32:08.210 --> 00:32:11.009
was really good. That was like where I thought

00:32:11.009 --> 00:32:13.049
that, oh, this guy's like, I think at the time

00:32:13.049 --> 00:32:14.750
he must have been 21 or something. I was like,

00:32:14.750 --> 00:32:16.829
oh, this guy has the fundamentals to be a top

00:32:16.829 --> 00:32:19.269
defender, especially on the stage against Real

00:32:19.269 --> 00:32:24.289
Madrid. They didn't manage to win. My only concern

00:32:24.289 --> 00:32:27.730
about him is that he's injury prone. Every time

00:32:27.730 --> 00:32:30.210
I hear about him, he's injured. That's why I'm...

00:32:30.210 --> 00:32:33.190
I mean, the thing I would shy away from as fans

00:32:33.190 --> 00:32:36.400
generally, I think, is... When you have a player

00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:40.660
as good as Van Dijk, let's be honest, you can't

00:32:40.660 --> 00:32:43.559
necessarily place that expectation on anyone.

00:32:43.660 --> 00:32:45.759
You can still be one of the greatest centre -backs

00:32:45.759 --> 00:32:48.140
of all time and still not be close to Van Dijk.

00:32:48.500 --> 00:32:52.000
In terms of a complete defender, I think people

00:32:52.000 --> 00:32:53.920
shouldn't really expect that maybe you're going

00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:55.859
to find another Van Dijk. Maybe you will, maybe

00:32:55.859 --> 00:32:58.319
you won't, but we've only seen a defender that

00:32:58.319 --> 00:33:01.039
complete technically and in terms of their defending

00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:04.230
tactically. Once, maybe some people would argue

00:33:04.230 --> 00:33:06.650
for John Terry or Vidic. I wouldn't from a technical

00:33:06.650 --> 00:33:09.390
perspective, but there's not many Van Dykes around,

00:33:09.509 --> 00:33:11.190
so I don't think it would be fair on Schlatterbach

00:33:11.190 --> 00:33:14.410
either to compare him to Van Dyke. I'm not saying

00:33:14.410 --> 00:33:18.430
he would come in and take over the armband and

00:33:18.430 --> 00:33:20.990
we forget about Van Dyke. I'm just saying he's

00:33:20.990 --> 00:33:22.170
been looked at. Is he a good enough replacement?

00:33:22.450 --> 00:33:25.009
Because, I mean, obviously people would say that...

00:33:25.529 --> 00:33:28.509
Gabriel and Saliba are the best defensive partnership

00:33:28.509 --> 00:33:30.430
in the world right now. Most people would agree

00:33:30.430 --> 00:33:34.190
about that. I think, however, that neither of

00:33:34.190 --> 00:33:36.910
them are close to Van Dijk in his prime to me.

00:33:36.970 --> 00:33:40.490
So that's how good he was. I'm just saying that

00:33:40.490 --> 00:33:43.470
the Van Dijk replacement maybe shouldn't be an

00:33:43.470 --> 00:33:45.650
expectation as much as you'd have to reshape

00:33:45.650 --> 00:33:47.309
your defending because there's probably not going

00:33:47.309 --> 00:33:51.900
to be another Van Dijk. Sure. Okay, so... Schlotterbeck

00:33:51.900 --> 00:33:54.640
gets a red and a second yellow is shown to Ben

00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:59.920
Sabaini and a penalty to Atalanta. Lazar Samancic

00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:03.900
scores the penalty and pandemonium in Bergamo

00:34:03.900 --> 00:34:08.909
as you know They go through 4 -3 on aggregate.

00:34:09.250 --> 00:34:12.250
I mean, Atalanta, everyone has to love this story.

00:34:12.389 --> 00:34:14.610
It continues without Gasparini. I don't think

00:34:14.610 --> 00:34:16.769
they're as good. The league form shows that.

00:34:16.909 --> 00:34:19.030
But they're still probably one of the most unpredictable

00:34:19.030 --> 00:34:21.429
teams in Europe who can beat anyone on their

00:34:21.429 --> 00:34:24.110
day. It might be who Arsenal play in the next

00:34:24.110 --> 00:34:26.090
round. I'd be a little bit scared of them. I

00:34:26.090 --> 00:34:27.670
thought you mentioned it's Fashion Week in Milan.

00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:30.920
They said that maybe six times during the inter

00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:35.940
-game. Okay. I just wanted to, I know it's Fashion

00:34:35.940 --> 00:34:38.659
Week in Milan. Just wanted to tell the listeners

00:34:38.659 --> 00:34:43.039
that I know. Thank you. I mean, what do you want

00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:48.099
to wear? Yeah, I'm not really that big into fashion,

00:34:48.159 --> 00:34:50.460
you know. Like, I just think of clothes as like

00:34:50.460 --> 00:34:53.139
a functional thing. Like, it's something to...

00:34:53.630 --> 00:34:57.570
I like to dress nicely, but I don't like to specifically

00:34:57.570 --> 00:35:00.230
care about the brand names or whatever. I'm not

00:35:00.230 --> 00:35:03.090
going to spend my salary on a shirt. That's true.

00:35:03.329 --> 00:35:06.710
Anything else to say about Atalanta for Dortmund

00:35:06.710 --> 00:35:10.050
1? Aside from it's a massive disgrace. Yeah,

00:35:10.090 --> 00:35:12.909
a massive disgrace. For Dortmund. Oh, for Dortmund,

00:35:12.949 --> 00:35:14.889
yeah. I mean, yeah, it is surprising because

00:35:14.889 --> 00:35:16.550
Dortmund have been doing really well in the league,

00:35:16.610 --> 00:35:18.809
which is why I thought they'd kind of see it

00:35:18.809 --> 00:35:21.489
through. But again, it's like Atalanta can be

00:35:21.489 --> 00:35:24.190
very good on their day. I've seen that a couple

00:35:24.190 --> 00:35:25.829
of seasons ago when they reached the Champions

00:35:25.829 --> 00:35:29.389
League semifinals as well. They were... Did they

00:35:29.389 --> 00:35:32.309
reach the semis? Yeah, I do remember them, I

00:35:32.309 --> 00:35:34.710
think, reaching the semis. I think you think

00:35:34.710 --> 00:35:37.380
of the Europa. They won the Europa League. Any

00:35:37.380 --> 00:35:39.059
other things you want to say about this game

00:35:39.059 --> 00:35:42.800
before we close up? Yeah, I mean, I like Atlanta.

00:35:43.219 --> 00:35:46.119
I mean, I like the project, the story behind

00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:48.739
Atlanta. So I wish them the best success. They're

00:35:48.739 --> 00:35:50.340
probably going to play us next, so I don't wish

00:35:50.340 --> 00:35:52.280
them much more success in the Champions League.

00:35:53.420 --> 00:35:56.360
I like them as a club, you know. I think the

00:35:56.360 --> 00:35:59.679
work Gasparini's done there, I think, in the

00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:01.679
long run will be influential to a lot of clubs.

00:36:01.739 --> 00:36:03.800
I think a lot of clubs, smaller clubs, will learn

00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:06.300
to rebuild themselves around Atalanta's model,

00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:09.880
you know. Moving on to Real Madrid 2, Benfica

00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:13.969
1. madrid through 3 -1 on aggregate so yeah another

00:36:13.969 --> 00:36:19.170
very this is my least uh how can i say this thought

00:36:19.170 --> 00:36:22.289
through game yeah partly because midway through

00:36:22.289 --> 00:36:26.730
i went to kfc to get food probably like on the

00:36:26.730 --> 00:36:28.989
30th minute and then i came back and it was like

00:36:28.989 --> 00:36:31.889
the 50th minute so i missed yeah i mean quite

00:36:31.889 --> 00:36:34.389
a bit it was my mom's birthday so so it's like

00:36:34.389 --> 00:36:37.230
i had it on in the background but i didn't necessarily

00:36:37.230 --> 00:36:41.030
pay too much attention to it. Yeah, so I do apologise

00:36:41.030 --> 00:36:46.670
if this is not a complete... A full breakdown.

00:36:46.889 --> 00:36:49.190
Yeah, a deep dive. Or an in -depth analysis,

00:36:49.329 --> 00:36:52.590
I guess. So for the first goal, Raul Asensio

00:36:52.590 --> 00:36:55.389
fails to clear and Benfica score. This was...

00:36:55.389 --> 00:36:58.309
I'm not a fan of Raul Asensio. I really think

00:36:58.309 --> 00:37:02.090
he's a very poor defender. He just got in the

00:37:02.090 --> 00:37:06.090
team at the right time where... A bunch of injuries

00:37:06.090 --> 00:37:09.789
happened. Well, Alaba is injury prone. I mean,

00:37:09.829 --> 00:37:13.289
it's almost like he's like Nacho, but he's not

00:37:13.289 --> 00:37:16.050
playing in a world -class team. Yes. Well, I

00:37:16.050 --> 00:37:19.150
rate Nacho way more than Asensio, but I get your

00:37:19.150 --> 00:37:22.630
point. Too many instantly equalized from a Valverde

00:37:22.630 --> 00:37:25.190
cutback. Totally against the run of play, because

00:37:25.190 --> 00:37:28.650
the first 15 -20 minutes was all Benfica. Yeah,

00:37:28.690 --> 00:37:30.800
I mean... I don't know if Madrid were sitting

00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:34.900
deep, but it didn't look much like a Jose Mourinho

00:37:34.900 --> 00:37:37.099
team, at least what we've come to know them as.

00:37:37.380 --> 00:37:40.079
They were pressing high, playing through Madrid's

00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:43.679
press, playing out from the back. So yeah, like

00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.679
I said, I watched those first two goals, then

00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:49.500
I went to KFC and I came back. And in the second

00:37:49.500 --> 00:37:52.840
play, second half, excuse me, Benfica had all

00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:56.780
the play. Like the first 10, 15 years. Whenever

00:37:56.780 --> 00:37:59.440
I was looking up, Benfica had all the play. So

00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:02.800
I didn't really see much of Madrid dominating

00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:06.260
the game on my end. And this, it was kind of

00:38:06.260 --> 00:38:10.760
anti -cowardly football from... Arbeloa. Arbeloa.

00:38:10.820 --> 00:38:14.199
Not anti -cowardly. Anti -football and cowardly

00:38:14.199 --> 00:38:17.400
football. That's all. I mean, he kind of... like

00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:19.539
relied on the individuals to break him up i think

00:38:19.539 --> 00:38:21.980
he looks a bit lost from what i've seen i've

00:38:21.980 --> 00:38:23.760
watched a lot of madrid since he's been there

00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:26.780
i think from what i've seen he seems to be trying

00:38:26.780 --> 00:38:30.159
to just reinforce the tactics of alonso i don't

00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:31.739
think he knows how to coach them particularly

00:38:31.739 --> 00:38:34.559
but i think he's trying to reinforce those tactical

00:38:34.559 --> 00:38:37.079
ideas because he's been with the team this season

00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:39.659
and he's trying to give the players more i guess

00:38:39.659 --> 00:38:41.739
freedom to figure the rest out by themselves

00:38:41.739 --> 00:38:43.639
whereas alonso would have been more pragmatic

00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:46.500
or dogmatic about it i guess but i think a A

00:38:46.500 --> 00:38:49.119
lot of the dynamics, the distances, I think it

00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:52.280
seems like, at least in my eyes, he's just going

00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:54.159
with what they've been coached throughout the

00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:56.659
season and just trying to motivate the players

00:38:56.659 --> 00:38:59.179
a bit extra, rely on the man management side

00:38:59.179 --> 00:39:02.559
of it. But I think it's more he's copying Ancelotti

00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:05.679
in that... He's just putting players in their

00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:07.980
best position and saying, you know, do what you

00:39:07.980 --> 00:39:10.860
do best. Yeah, I think he's kind of trying that.

00:39:10.940 --> 00:39:13.159
But, like, a lot of the times, the way they press,

00:39:13.260 --> 00:39:15.519
like, I think they kept the diamond 4 -4 -2 in

00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:17.199
the press, which is, like, very characteristic

00:39:17.199 --> 00:39:20.500
of Alonso and not characteristic of Madrid. Fair

00:39:20.500 --> 00:39:23.739
enough. Madrid was sitting deep in the second

00:39:23.739 --> 00:39:27.480
half just trying to play for a counter and this

00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:30.139
works because against the run of play Vinicius

00:39:30.139 --> 00:39:33.380
scores Benfica were pushed up way too high and

00:39:33.380 --> 00:39:35.880
he was just left all alone another really good

00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:39.099
ball from Valverde finds him in acres and acres

00:39:39.099 --> 00:39:43.380
of space he runs through scores and yeah that's

00:39:43.380 --> 00:39:45.940
it I mean a good finish he's a probably one of

00:39:45.940 --> 00:39:49.079
the best Pressure players in the world. So as

00:39:49.079 --> 00:39:51.980
we hear talking shit about Abloh saying he can't

00:39:51.980 --> 00:39:55.159
coach, well, he just beat Mourinho over two legs.

00:39:56.320 --> 00:39:59.119
You know, so who are we to speak? Well, I mean,

00:39:59.219 --> 00:40:01.599
I'm not saying he can't coach. I'm just saying

00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:04.960
I think he looks a bit lost in terms of the experience.

00:40:05.099 --> 00:40:07.139
Maybe he does. But when that's happened to Madrid,

00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:08.900
they've won the Champions League in the past.

00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:14.440
I will say I was kind of shocked that Benfica

00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:18.079
only made subs in the 85th minute. I just assumed

00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:20.019
that he had made subs early in the game and I

00:40:20.019 --> 00:40:23.599
missed it. But it's the 85th minute and the commentator's

00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:26.380
like, oh, Benfica making their first subs. I

00:40:26.380 --> 00:40:29.300
was... I also picked that up, so I don't know.

00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:32.300
I mean... Mourinho wasn't on the touchline because

00:40:32.300 --> 00:40:35.179
he got a red card last week. So he couldn't...

00:40:35.179 --> 00:40:38.320
But still, he should have like a walkie -talkie

00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:39.940
or something. Something, something, yeah. So

00:40:39.940 --> 00:40:43.420
I'm really not sure. He... Like, either he totally

00:40:43.420 --> 00:40:46.750
mismanaged this or like... I don't know what

00:40:46.750 --> 00:40:51.210
to say because I felt Benfica, not mismanaged,

00:40:51.210 --> 00:40:54.050
because Benfica had chances. It's just they didn't

00:40:54.050 --> 00:40:56.820
take those chances. So they weren't. clinical

00:40:56.820 --> 00:40:59.239
enough they weren't i mean he did enough from

00:40:59.239 --> 00:41:02.539
a coaching perspective to win the tie so it's

00:41:02.539 --> 00:41:05.199
hard to critique him in in that regard well you

00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:07.639
can't yeah so yeah i would say too many in my

00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:11.039
man of the match he was just every time i looked

00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:13.360
up he was there doing something uh yeah breaking

00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:16.519
up the break here playing like uh i guess the

00:41:16.519 --> 00:41:18.360
player they thought they signed when they first

00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:20.519
got him for like when he was there for the first

00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:24.309
six months he's getting back yeah i thought too

00:41:24.309 --> 00:41:27.110
many just all over the place another player that

00:41:27.110 --> 00:41:30.489
didn't impress me that uh i think looks awful

00:41:30.489 --> 00:41:33.829
trent alexander arnold just uh now you're gonna

00:41:33.829 --> 00:41:37.030
say oh it's bias it's this it's that but truly

00:41:37.789 --> 00:41:41.030
a defensive disaster class. Every time the left

00:41:41.030 --> 00:41:44.269
wing Benfica got the ball, he just ran at him

00:41:44.269 --> 00:41:46.889
and took him on. Trent stopped him twice out

00:41:46.889 --> 00:41:50.590
of maybe 12 times. I thought he was decent though,

00:41:50.610 --> 00:41:53.349
like some of his passing. Like I think... Sure,

00:41:53.469 --> 00:41:54.869
sure. I'm not talking about his passing. I'm

00:41:54.869 --> 00:41:56.989
talking about defensive work only. As I said

00:41:56.989 --> 00:41:58.829
before, that's what you get with him. I'll take

00:41:58.829 --> 00:42:01.730
the three or four passes that put the attacker

00:42:01.730 --> 00:42:05.010
right in front of goal for the defensive. Like

00:42:05.010 --> 00:42:07.170
in our defense with Saliba and Gabriel behind,

00:42:07.239 --> 00:42:09.039
him i think he'd be the perfect right back for

00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:11.679
us so i just don't think right back is the right

00:42:11.679 --> 00:42:13.800
place he should be playing like i don't know

00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:16.539
as a deep line playmaker maybe so but i think

00:42:16.539 --> 00:42:18.780
uh he attacks more of the pitch from right back

00:42:18.780 --> 00:42:21.679
because i was i was like he has the whole pitch

00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:24.059
to attack like with his diagonals especially

00:42:24.059 --> 00:42:26.699
at right back and i was also someone who thought

00:42:26.699 --> 00:42:29.400
he'd be better off as a deep lying playmaker

00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:32.139
or in midfield but i think when club did try

00:42:32.139 --> 00:42:36.340
him there i think he he The things that make

00:42:36.340 --> 00:42:38.360
him, I guess, that are questionable about his

00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:41.619
game defensively are more exposed in midfield,

00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:43.920
in my opinion. He just doesn't have defensive

00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:46.760
instincts. Yeah, but I would say, like for me,

00:42:46.800 --> 00:42:50.019
it's a calculated risk to keep him in your team

00:42:50.019 --> 00:42:52.599
because in a top team, I think he's going to

00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:54.659
do a lot of special things just through his passing.

00:42:54.980 --> 00:42:58.019
Okay, so Madrid threw 3 -1 on aggregate. Any

00:42:58.019 --> 00:43:02.480
other points you want to make? Things you want

00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:04.880
to say before we close up on this topic? No,

00:43:04.980 --> 00:43:08.199
nothing. I mean, Madrid go on to survive another

00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:11.380
day. So I guess let's hope someone takes them

00:43:11.380 --> 00:43:13.780
out. All right. Now we're moving on to miscellaneous.

00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:17.840
The other four games that I didn't watch or we

00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:20.380
didn't watch. These are just going to be some

00:43:20.380 --> 00:43:25.099
quick hits. No, like maybe a one sentence topic.

00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:27.920
You know, you can speak how long you want, but

00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:30.210
I'm just saying. I don't think there's a lot

00:43:30.210 --> 00:43:32.369
to talk about. A lot to cover, yeah. So the first

00:43:32.369 --> 00:43:36.090
one is Newcastle 3, Carabag 2. Newcastle threw

00:43:36.090 --> 00:43:41.489
9 -3 on aggregate. Close. Yeah. I was sitting

00:43:41.489 --> 00:43:44.989
there sweating. Just not sure what... Which way

00:43:44.989 --> 00:43:47.530
it was going to go. Toss off a coin, you know.

00:43:47.590 --> 00:43:49.929
I mean, it's like you want the smaller leagues

00:43:49.929 --> 00:43:52.570
to grow, but at this point, Carabag are in the

00:43:52.570 --> 00:43:54.610
Champions League almost every season, and it

00:43:54.610 --> 00:43:56.949
just seems like... I mean, they made the knockouts.

00:43:56.969 --> 00:44:00.829
It's hard to criticize them, but I don't think

00:44:00.829 --> 00:44:03.769
that... Like, it would make sense if there were

00:44:03.769 --> 00:44:05.670
more teams from the lower leagues. If you're

00:44:05.670 --> 00:44:09.480
just going to throw in one team from... Where

00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:11.360
are they from? Kazakhstan? Wherever they're from.

00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:12.980
I don't know. If you're going to throw in one

00:44:12.980 --> 00:44:15.440
team, it doesn't exactly make sense. You're not

00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:17.400
developing the league or that region of football.

00:44:17.460 --> 00:44:19.460
Maybe if you gave them three or four teams, then

00:44:19.460 --> 00:44:22.360
I'd understand. But I think a better team could

00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:24.800
occupy that space in the Champions League, you

00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:29.170
know. Leverkusen 0, Olympiacos 0. Leverkusen

00:44:29.170 --> 00:44:32.309
threw 2 -0 on aggregate I mean I haven't watched

00:44:32.309 --> 00:44:34.489
much of Leverkusen this season honestly so I

00:44:34.489 --> 00:44:36.550
can't give much comment on where they are in

00:44:36.550 --> 00:44:38.989
relation to where they want to be how their project

00:44:38.989 --> 00:44:42.510
is progressing so I mean we all know a couple

00:44:42.510 --> 00:44:45.210
years ago they were the club everyone was raving

00:44:45.210 --> 00:44:49.260
about outside of their own so I don't know. Congratulations

00:44:49.260 --> 00:44:52.159
to them, I guess, for still being able to compete

00:44:52.159 --> 00:44:53.940
in the Champions League. Because I'm sure a lot

00:44:53.940 --> 00:44:55.639
of people would have expected them to fall away

00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:57.920
by now. Especially with half their squad gone,

00:44:58.059 --> 00:45:00.860
coach gone. I think most people think they didn't

00:45:00.860 --> 00:45:05.260
reinvest the money as well. So, let's see. I

00:45:05.260 --> 00:45:09.280
wish them luck, though. PSG 2, Monaco 2. PSG

00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:12.400
threw 5 -4 on aggregate. They snuck through in

00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:18.019
the end. Okay, the other two are much more obvious.

00:45:18.500 --> 00:45:20.579
It's obvious that Leverkusen would go through.

00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:24.239
It's obvious Newcastle would go through. PSG,

00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:26.519
I thought it would be obvious that... It would

00:45:26.519 --> 00:45:28.119
be a walkover. It would be a walkover. But they

00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:30.079
generally struggle against Monaco from what I

00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:32.139
understand. So it could be like a bogey team.

00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:36.239
That's true. And it's a bit shocking that they

00:45:36.239 --> 00:45:38.719
got a French team. I understand that the new

00:45:38.719 --> 00:45:42.880
format doesn't care about that. But it's rare

00:45:42.880 --> 00:45:49.280
to see... this yeah, but in the end the the popular

00:45:49.280 --> 00:45:52.619
team went through or the Predicted team went

00:45:52.619 --> 00:45:54.940
through. Yeah, I mean from from what I understood

00:45:54.940 --> 00:45:57.179
from what I read it was the even game It's kind

00:45:57.179 --> 00:45:59.739
of on a nice edge. So shout out to Monaco for

00:45:59.739 --> 00:46:02.400
at least staying in the game giving PSG a tough

00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:06.159
time I think you still have to respect them and

00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:08.159
consider them the best team in the world. So

00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:11.980
yeah, they're through Let's let's see how far

00:46:11.980 --> 00:46:15.139
they go this season all right so like i said

00:46:15.139 --> 00:46:17.579
those three games were kind of obvious as to

00:46:17.579 --> 00:46:21.340
who would go through this game juventus versus

00:46:21.340 --> 00:46:25.519
galatasaray was a lot more even and based on

00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:29.239
the first leg galatasaray won five two you would

00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:32.860
assume it was dead the game was dead right and

00:46:32.860 --> 00:46:35.860
juventus go one nil up in this game and you know

00:46:35.860 --> 00:46:38.420
things are fine things are chugging along uh

00:46:38.420 --> 00:46:43.010
and then they get a red card So I didn't watch

00:46:43.010 --> 00:46:46.989
this game, just from what I've heard. It was

00:46:46.989 --> 00:46:51.190
a second yellow for Lloyd Kelly. But apparently

00:46:51.190 --> 00:46:54.769
that tackle deserved a red on its own. Yes, I

00:46:54.769 --> 00:46:56.889
did see the tackle. Okay, I didn't see it, so

00:46:56.889 --> 00:46:59.309
I have no frame of reference. I mean, I think

00:46:59.309 --> 00:47:01.889
it did deserve a red, honestly. I don't think

00:47:01.889 --> 00:47:04.789
people would be wrong in saying that. So now,

00:47:04.829 --> 00:47:07.849
despite being one man down, Juventus score two

00:47:07.849 --> 00:47:10.670
more goals and they go 3 -0 up. Yeah, I mean,

00:47:10.670 --> 00:47:14.929
it was... I mean, they did, like, they scored

00:47:14.929 --> 00:47:19.510
the goals, but Galatasaray also missed a lot

00:47:19.510 --> 00:47:22.230
of sitters. I think they could have put the game

00:47:22.230 --> 00:47:24.329
to bed. So you think it was kind of an even game,

00:47:24.409 --> 00:47:27.070
back and forth, and it's just so... I mean, I

00:47:27.070 --> 00:47:32.349
think, like, Galatasaray did enough when the

00:47:32.349 --> 00:47:34.590
game went down to 10 men to say that if they

00:47:34.590 --> 00:47:36.329
had gone out, they would have been kicking themselves,

00:47:36.630 --> 00:47:40.360
because... It would be hard to say Juventus were

00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:43.139
the better team. I think a lot of it was, again,

00:47:43.380 --> 00:47:46.079
Spalletti's in -game management was very good.

00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:48.159
He read the moments very well. He was able to

00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:50.860
shift the momentum for them. So I think that's

00:47:50.860 --> 00:47:53.760
what saved them. But the scoreline, if they had

00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:55.760
got through, it would have kind of flattered

00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:58.840
them in relation to how many chances Galatasaray

00:47:58.840 --> 00:48:02.710
missed. Yeah, so it's 3 -0. It goes into extra

00:48:02.710 --> 00:48:08.050
time. And the Madrid game ends, so I switch over

00:48:08.050 --> 00:48:11.769
to this game to see the great escape of Juventus.

00:48:12.010 --> 00:48:15.559
I mean, I was hoping for it too. yeah i was thinking

00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:17.699
they are black yo espaletti pulls us off darren

00:48:17.699 --> 00:48:21.619
is going to go buck wild i was hoping with everything

00:48:21.619 --> 00:48:25.340
in me that he pulled it off but but then galatasaray

00:48:25.340 --> 00:48:28.320
scored two goals um and juventus get another

00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:30.739
red card now i'm gonna be honest with you i fell

00:48:30.739 --> 00:48:33.940
asleep again because this is like this is like

00:48:33.940 --> 00:48:36.800
quarter past 12. you know i'm yeah i mean i'm

00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:38.739
not a teenager anymore who's like stays up the

00:48:38.739 --> 00:48:41.269
whole night this is like I work in the morning,

00:48:41.369 --> 00:48:45.150
bro. So I fell asleep. I saw Galatasaray's first

00:48:45.150 --> 00:48:48.849
goal and I was like, oh, you kind of gave it

00:48:48.849 --> 00:48:50.690
away and then I fell asleep. Yeah, I mean, once

00:48:50.690 --> 00:48:53.030
Osserman scored, you could already see that the

00:48:53.030 --> 00:48:54.929
energy was out of Juventus. I think they were

00:48:54.929 --> 00:48:56.929
kind of playing for the shootout at that point,

00:48:57.050 --> 00:48:59.690
trying to hold their shape and then defensive

00:48:59.690 --> 00:49:02.199
error, Osserman. easy enough finish, I think.

00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:05.800
Very much like the Bodo game. I'm led to believe

00:49:05.800 --> 00:49:10.039
that. It's not that Juventus were bad. They made

00:49:10.039 --> 00:49:12.380
one mistake and then... Yeah, I mean, they were

00:49:12.380 --> 00:49:14.699
terrible in the first leg and I think that they

00:49:14.699 --> 00:49:17.139
just left themselves too much to do. And then

00:49:17.139 --> 00:49:19.119
the red card didn't help. I feel like if they

00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:20.840
had 11, they would have definitely been able

00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:22.780
to control the whole game and get through. But

00:49:22.780 --> 00:49:25.500
can't make excuses. You're the bigger club. You

00:49:25.500 --> 00:49:27.820
have the bigger wage bill, the better players,

00:49:27.980 --> 00:49:30.559
the better league. So Kalatasaray did what they

00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:33.579
had to, you know. Any other points you want to

00:49:33.579 --> 00:49:35.980
make about any of the games or any other things

00:49:35.980 --> 00:49:37.980
you want to say? Oh, no, not really. I mean,

00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:41.719
interesting. I think most of the better clubs,

00:49:41.800 --> 00:49:44.460
I think the Dortmund -Atalanta game is arguable

00:49:44.460 --> 00:49:48.639
as to who's the better team. Yeah, they're both

00:49:48.639 --> 00:49:51.460
roughly the same in my... The same level, but

00:49:51.460 --> 00:49:54.059
I think there haven't been many upsets, apart

00:49:54.059 --> 00:49:56.340
from if you consider Juventus -Galatasaray an

00:49:56.340 --> 00:49:59.079
upset, but Juventus are not really the Juventus

00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:01.400
of old right now, so it's not like they're a

00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:04.679
super club or a team that's at an elite level.

00:50:04.780 --> 00:50:08.849
The only shock is Bodo. Yeah, the reason I'm

00:50:08.849 --> 00:50:11.090
bringing it up is because I'd say that from a

00:50:11.090 --> 00:50:12.969
Champions League perspective, if you're a neutral

00:50:12.969 --> 00:50:14.809
footballing fan, it's good because you've practically

00:50:14.809 --> 00:50:18.949
got all the elite teams in the next stage. With

00:50:18.949 --> 00:50:21.849
maybe the exception of Inter Milan, but every

00:50:21.849 --> 00:50:24.090
other elite team in world football is probably...

00:50:24.090 --> 00:50:25.670
We're going to have a lot of good ties till the

00:50:25.670 --> 00:50:28.090
end of the season, you know. The derby's not

00:50:28.090 --> 00:50:30.469
there, so... Unfortunately. Throw it in the bin,

00:50:30.530 --> 00:50:35.019
who cares? It's a fraudulent trophy anyway. And

00:50:35.019 --> 00:50:41.599
Igor Tudor made it further than Juventus. Alright,

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