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and welcome back to the pd football podcast my

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name is presh my name is darren and how are you

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doing today i'm good i'm good how's everything

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on your end i'm a bit tired from work but okay

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yeah i'm well uh also busy busy from work uh

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i did not finish the dune audiobook because not

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yet i finished part two and i realized there

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was a part three and i'm like oh shit so yeah

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another eight hours of audiobook it's not bad

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I'm looking forward to it. I'm not saying that

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in a bad way. How does it compare to the movie

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so far? A lot of unnecessary fluff in the book.

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And I'm glad that the director cut it out and

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streamlined the story. And yourself, have you

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seen anything recently? No, I haven't really

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been watching much outside of maybe a little

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bit of football. some stand -up comedy. I saw

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the new Bill Burr special. It was pretty funny.

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Well, I don't know if it's new, but it's on Disney,

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so I think it's like a year old or something.

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It was funny. I enjoyed it. Yeah, that's pretty

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much all I've watched so far. I mean, yeah, I

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haven't had much time, honestly, on my end. So

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I think the movie rundowns, the intros, I'll

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leave that up to you until I can... Make time

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in my schedule. I see, I see. Well, I don't really

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have anything else to say right now, so let's

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just get into it. Man City 2, Newcastle 1. And

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City made one change to the team who beat Fulham

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3 -0 with Marmouch in for Foden. The graphic

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before the match said that City were in their

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usual 4 -3 -3, but during the game I noticed

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they were actually in a 4 -4 -2. I mean, a lot

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of teams are... kind of out of position in a

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4 -4 -2 these days, so a lot of the top teams.

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But it was a very old -school left midfielder,

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right midfielder, two sitting midfielders, and

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two strikers. A big striker and a small striker.

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Yeah, I mean... It was like the 1980s again.

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1990s, old -school Arsene Wenger style. Yeah,

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it was very... Odd for a Pep Guardiola team to

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be doing this, but I was like, all right. I mean,

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football is cyclical. Maybe it's like bringing

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back old ideas, going back to a former time.

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Traditional number nines are coming back. And

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Eddie Howe made one change to the team that won

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6 -1 versus Carabag with Jacob Ramsey in for

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Harvey Barnes. Again, the graphics said that

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Newcastle were in their usual 4 -3 -3, but during

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the game, they were in more of a 4 -1 -4 -1.

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Interestingly, with Gordon up top and Voldemort

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as one of the tens, not the... other way around

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uh and to not only as the lone pivot uh i mean

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i guess gordon offers you a bit more on the transition

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than voltemar so maybe it makes sense to have

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him linking and gordon playing higher up sure

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but uh okay we'll get to it but i okay I didn't

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think Valtamato was needed. I think you needed

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another midfielder facility. Yeah, that would

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have made sense as well. But I think Eddie Howe

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was probably thinking of the long ball as well.

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I mean, Valtamato is probably the only option

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they have for that. That's true. Okay, so in

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the Carabao Cup games, we saw Newcastle pressing

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high and aggressively. But their strategy this

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time was to sit back and play on the counter.

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Although they lost, I think this was a more effective

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tactic than the cup games because it conserves

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energy, but you do need to concentrate and be

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disciplined. Yeah, I mean, that was surprising

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on my end. I mean, it was good. A good sign from

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Eddie Howe, I guess, if you're a Newcastle fan,

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because the way they've been pressing in recent

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weeks was part of the reason I predicted them

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to get thrashed in my pre -match predictions.

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But I think, like, they... Yeah, I mean, they

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seem to focus more on defence. It shows they

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can defend a bit, like... I mean, Eddie Howe

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kind of lives and dies by his high press, so

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I kind of was expecting Man City to just pick

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them apart. And I guess they're really good between

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the boxes, actually, for sitting deep, something

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they don't do very often. So, I mean, Sandro

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Tonali, I mean, he's probably, like, you know,

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when he plays well, he's one of the best midfielders

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in the league. I'd say so. I was really impressed

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with their midfield more than anything else in

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the way they stayed in the game, I guess, because

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I honestly expected them to get blown away. Okay,

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I disagree slightly because they kind of shot

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themselves in the foot with that formation change.

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Tonali was totally outrun in the midfield. He

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was left alone a lot of times and like Mamouch

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or Semenya would just be running straight at

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him. I thought he did well to beat the Presto

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quite a few times, actually. start a lot of Newcastle's

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transitions, but I guess I didn't notice how

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much he was getting overrun. Well, I don't blame

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him. I blame Eddie Howe for not realizing and

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bringing in another midfielder to help him out.

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You know, it's not... If you're being overrun,

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it's not your fault. I mean, he's not necessarily

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the most mobile. That's not what he's game...

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He's more of an in -position midfielder, in my

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opinion. I guess his game stands out for what

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he does in position. So this getting outrun in

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midfield is what actually led to City's first

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goal. Mahmood gets the ball in midfield and carries

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it into the final third. And he just lays it

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off to O 'Reilly, who absolutely whacked it in

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the goal. 1 -0 to City. We just watched the highlights.

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What did you think of that goal? I mean, Nico

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O 'Reilly, he's looking good. Continues to look

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good. I guess pushed up now, playing more, I

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guess, closer to the opposition box than when

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he first broke into the team. Well, he was getting

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played at left -back. At left -back, now he's

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a winger, yeah. So I'm saying his dynamics, I

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like him. No, it's a very odd goal for Man City

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to score. I guess it's still kind of the image

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of the new Man City. It was a goal that you guys

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would have scored in previous seasons. It was

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a turnover and then very quick counter. Yeah,

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the counter -pressing. It's still new to see

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that from a Guardiola team. As soon as they get

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the ball, their main focus is on... attacking

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the goal directly as opposed to shifting the

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opponent's structure but i thought they were

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very good i thought they started very well first

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15 minutes i felt like my prediction was on course

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to become a reality you know they were totally

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overrunning newcastle i agree with that um but

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i also thought city's formation shift kind of

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neutralized the threat of both harland and simeno

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although they did combine later for a goal i

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thought they both had poor games you know in

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general Yeah, I think they're similar sorts of

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players in terms of what they offer as strikers,

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in my opinion. I think it's... Usually, if you

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go with the striking two, at least in a 4 -4

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-2 formation, one is a facilitator and one is

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a finisher. So, I think they're both finishers.

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So, at least the midfield with extra work to

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do sometimes. Well, he wasn't the second. Mamusha's

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the second. He was in the right wing. Yeah, I

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mean, either way, I think the... space, he couldn't

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fully operate to his, you know, best ability.

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That's what I... Yeah, it's more, I think, a

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thing of them occupying the same zones and them

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trying to run off the last man a lot. I think

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when you have two players who are doing that,

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theoretically it can be okay for the midfield.

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It gives them more options if they play... If

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they play through the lines a lot, which Man

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City are probably the best team in the league

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at. But at the same time, I think maybe it's

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just something where they're still picking up

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on each other's movements. And a lot of times

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they run into the same space. So, I mean, I think

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it's something they will get right in time. Obviously,

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it's Guardiola. And I think Haaland is a very

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intelligent player, especially with his positioning.

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So I think if anything, I think Haaland's game

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will benefit Semenya's more than the opposite

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way. Because I think Semenya still has a lot

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to learn. in the Man City system. I think right

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now his biggest addition to Man City would be

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his end product. It gives him someone outside

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of Haaland who brings goals, I guess, right now

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because they were heavily reliant on him. But

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if they're a strike partnership, I would see

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Haaland, even though he's the best finisher in

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the league, as being more of the facilitator

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because I think he's more intelligent than Semenya

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and he can pick up on that from a coaching perspective

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at least. He did get an assist this game. Yeah,

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it was a good cross as well. So Newcastle's best

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opportunities came from set -piece situations.

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Obviously, if you have guys like Trippier and

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Tonali who have great delivery and eerily dominant

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guys like Dan Byrne and Malik Chow, you're always

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going to have a chance from set -pieces. But

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this is what actually leads to their goal. A

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corner is cleared and Lewis Hall takes a long

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-range shot, which then takes a wicked deflection

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off of Rodri to go into the goal. 1 -1. Yeah,

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I mean... Really nothing to be said. Nothing

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to be said. He just took a long shot, it deflected

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and went in. A hopeful shot and he had the luck

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on his side. Yeah, but I'm trying to show the

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patterns in that most of their play came from

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set pieces, even though... I thought they did

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well to hold on to the ball and beat the Man

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City press quite a few times, but I think when

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they got to the final third, they were lacking

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a lot. I agree with that, definitely. For City's

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second goal, Haaland beats the offside trap and

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puts in a nice hanging cross, which is nodded

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home by O 'Reilly, who was unmarked in the area.

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Trippier doing poorly for that because Trippier

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really didn't even challenge him at all. Yeah,

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2 -1 to City. I mean, yeah, Trippier has always

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had that problem. Like, in possession, he can

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be really good. Generally, when he... out of

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possession he can be a bit of a liability you

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know so i think uh the high press is he's one

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player who's benefited off of it because i think

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he he formally would have made most of his mistakes

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in the opposition half so the center house could

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cover him i think having dropped deep probably

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now those mistakes would be more like detrimental

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i guess leaving nicole o'reilly unmarked in the

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box is a bit different to when you're pressing

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up the pitch so i think Perhaps the new formation

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doesn't suit him. I think he's very much a player

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who benefits off of playing with the high press.

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And he's a confidence player. So I think once

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he starts making one wrong decision, he can generally

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tend to have a bad game. I thought Nico O 'Reilly

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was consistently getting the better of him throughout

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the whole game, you know, almost. A very one

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-sided battle on Man City's left, you know. The

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person I did, I was impressed by was Anthony

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Gordon. He gave Ruben Diaz a very hard time.

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And in fact, Diaz was hooked at halftime for

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Kuzhinov because he just couldn't deal with Gordon's

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pace yeah I mean Gordon is troubling I think

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he I don't know if it was last season or the

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season before he also had a game where I think

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him and Isak they completely just shredded Gabriel

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and Saliba so he has that in his in his locker

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if he can make it consistent I guess He could

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hit the potential everyone's been speaking of

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him. I mean, he's been spoken about as one of

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the bright British players for a long time now,

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the bright young British players. So I hope he

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hits his potential. I like the way he plays.

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He's very direct. He's a bit of a throwback in

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a lot of ways. Do you think he makes it into

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the World Cup team? Currently, it's hard to say.

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I think he would make the bench. I can't see

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a reason. Especially because he has pace. It

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might come down to him or Marcus Rashford. Yeah,

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that's what I'm thinking. It's only the two of

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them that are really pacey. If you asked me,

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I'd still prefer Rashford, but it's up in the

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air. I just think Rashford's temperament and

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that he's been in a lot of big moments before

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and he's been able to, at least in some big games,

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play well. Even if he's had a bad season I think

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he's kind of pulled performances against Real

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Madrid performances against when he was at Man

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United against us against Man City so from an

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individual standpoint I would go with Rashford

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if it comes down to those two but I still think

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knowing Thomas Tuchel they both will make the

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squad somehow alright so in the second half the

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team swapped roles in that City sat deep and

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played on the counter and it was Newcastle that

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were that was poking and prodding looking for

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an equalizer Unfortunately for them, it never

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really looked like they were going to score.

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It was actually City who had more clear -cut

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chances because Newcastle were committing so

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many men forward. Semenya alone had three chances

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to kill the game in the second half. I guess

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this compliments to Donnarumma again from the

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second half. Pulled off a couple of marvellous

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saves. Nick Pope as well. Both goalkeepers were

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in top form. So despite their chances, I thought

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City were poor in the second half. Lots of misplaced

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passes and careless play. The only player who

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I think kept their composure was Gueye. And I

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have to kind of tip my cap to Gueye. Not that

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I was talking shit about him. All I said was,

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I'm not sure how he would translate from a back

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three to a back four. And he's done splendidly.

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The last couple of games I've watched him, I

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thought, wow, this guy... While the other City

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players have been like all over the place, he's

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been the one that's, you know. He's been the

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rock. He's been the rock, yes. I totally agree

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with that. On the other kind of the flip, not

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of the same coin, but like on the other hand,

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a guy I would say that had a very poor game.

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Not poor, just a guy I think that looks awkward

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all the time is Mateus Nunes. Just the way he

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gets the ball, his body shape, everything about

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him, I just think, oh. I don't like this guy.

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He makes you feel insecure. Why insecure? Not

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insecure. I mean, like, if you support Man City,

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it's like you don't have a sense of security

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in him being in the team. Sure, yes. He doesn't

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fill you with confidence. I agree with that.

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But, again, I don't support City. So, if I were

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looking at City's weak points, I would target

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Matthias Nunes on there. Matthias Nunes. Yeah,

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I think, I mean, in fairness to him, he's being

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moved all over the park, played out of position.

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Well, he was an eight. And got shifted into a

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right back. So it's not his natural position.

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But again, I don't think he... It's more a question

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of Man City signing him as an auxiliary player.

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Because I don't think he gets into the midfield.

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He's not good enough to get in. I don't think

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they signed him as an auxiliary player. I think

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they signed him as an 8. But Pep just found out

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that he's just not good enough. And had to chuck

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him in somewhere. He put him at right back and

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he's done an alright job. Similar thing is happening

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with Reinders, although Reinders is on the bench

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instead of being played at right back. Nunez's

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physicality, I think, is what gives him the edge

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at starting at right back then, say a Reinders.

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Yeah, I agree. I mean, there's not much else

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to say. I mean, we know Pep has his own way of

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doing things and he's usually right. One thing

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I would, the final thing I want to say about

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this game, because more or less all the action

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happened in the first half and it was just kind

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of boring in the second half. But I will say

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Bernardo Silva gets a yellow card for tackle.

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And then less than a minute later, he just runs

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and jumps into Dan Byrne. And Dan Byrne falls

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over. Bernardo Silva seems like one of those

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players that he never gets sent off when he's

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deserved to be sent off a lot of times. So there

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was that. He should have gotten a second yellow.

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And then Chucky kicks the ball away and doesn't

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get a yellow card. And I thought that was very

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odd that the two of them didn't get any. reprimand

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they weren't reprimanded for doing that I was

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like hmm I mean that just speaks more to the

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standard of the refereeing in the Premier League

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than Man City I guess yeah because it's happened

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to them it's happened against them it's happened

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to every team and against every team we were

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speaking about the other week that they got robbed

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I think they were supposed to get a penalty or

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something like that. But like you said, it comes

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and goes. It all balances out in the end. Yeah,

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I think it's just every team goes through the

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ups and downs. So yeah, any final things you

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want to say about Man City 2, Newcastle 1? No,

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I think I've said everything I need to say. I

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think if you're a Newcastle fan, at least there's

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more optimism now for the remainder of the season.

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At least they've shown to some degree that they

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can hold the defensive structure and at least

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play out. It's the first game as well. So, I

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mean, if Eddie Howe plans on playing this way

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going forward, I think they'll finish the season

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decently. All right. Moving on to Nottingham

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Forest 0, Liverpool 1. And since Forest's last

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Premier League match, Mario came in for Morato

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and Igor Jesus came in for Lorenzo Luca. Florian

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Wurz was injured in the warm -up, so Curtis Jones

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was shifted to the 10, then Gravenberg came in

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for the injured Wurz, and Eke Tike came in for

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Chiesa. What injury did Wurz pick up? I don't

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know. They just said something happened in the

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warm -up. In fact, I'm not an expert on injuries,

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so it really doesn't matter what happened. I

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wouldn't know. No, I just thought it's kind of

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annoying from a footballing perspective when

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it's like a player is just getting into form

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and then they get injured. Another note is that

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Forrest played in the Europa qualifier last week

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Thursday, in between their last match and this

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match. I caught glimpses of this game, but you're

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obviously going to give the rundown on this one.

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So, Curtis Jones gave the ball away twice in

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the first five minutes, and that kind of sets

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the tone for the first half. I assume that Forrest

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would sit deep and play on the counter, but they

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actually came out and played attacking front

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foot football. This, coupled with us constantly

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giving the ball away, made Forest look very dangerous.

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However, they couldn't take advantage of it.

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Van Dijk and Konate were absolutely massive in,

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you know, stopping their attack. So they had

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brilliant build -up up until that, entering the

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box, and then one of Konate or Van Dijk would

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just put a stop to it and send them packing.

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Well, that's... I mean, Van Dijk is... It can

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be a one -man defense. I've seen my team be in

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the position of trying to break him down. I mean,

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if he's on it, he's comfortably the best defender

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in the world. You can't begrudge Nottingham that.

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So Forrest were just not linking up in the final

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third. At halftime, they had 12 attempts to our

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two, yet the score was still the same. And that's

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a lot of domination. I didn't expect the score.

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But it was like... Long range shots that just

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went into the crowd. It wasn't on target. They

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got to a point, they couldn't break you down,

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then they just fired in the shot. Yeah, so it

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wasn't 12 shots on target. It was just 12 shots.

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12 a time, so... Yeah. McAllister, Ekotike and

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Gravenberg were extremely loose and their touches

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were very bad in the middle third. Ekotike dropping

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back and then the two of them, you know, where

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they were. In general, the theme that I'm picking

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up from what you're saying is that you guys were

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losing the ball a lot sloppy, generally. Jones

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was, in fact, so bad that slots swapped him with

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Sabotslai, and Jones went to right -back. Sabotslai

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came into midfield. And this actually worked.

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He's midfielder in the league. Yeah. I don't

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know, because he's played the majority of the

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season at right -back. So how would we... Well,

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for me, it's between him and Rice. You can't

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make an argument for him being the best midfielder

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if he played like 70 % of the season at right

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-back. Yeah, no, I get your argument. But when

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he plays in midfield, for me, him and Rice are

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the best two in the league. So when he did get

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into midfield, we got a bit more control and

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he was keeping the ball a bit more. So this was

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still in the first half. At the beginning of

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the second half, we still... you know, giving

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the ball away. About 10 minutes into the second

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half, I don't know what clicks or what happens,

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but we start to wrestle back some control. And

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that being said, Forrest was still getting chances,

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even though we had more time on the ball. Were

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they beating the press, or how were the chances

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coming? On the counter, because we were pushed

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up high. So then, was your pressing disjointed?

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Was it easy for them to play through, or were

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they just playing well? They were pressing the

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life out of us. So every time we had the ball,

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like two guys were on us or two guys were on

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the man. The physical standard of the Premier

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League, though, is crazy right now. I feel like

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even the way, I mean, we'll talk about it later,

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but the way Burnley pressed Chelsea was ridiculous

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for a team that's in the relegation zone. The

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standards are at a good level with the lower

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teams. It's just the teams at the top are the

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ones that are struggling at the moment. The commentator

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said that against Wolves, Nottingham Forest had

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35 shots without a goal. And against us at the

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end of the game, it was 18 shots without a goal.

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So 53 shots with no goal in the past two games.

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Very poor return. Very Spurs -y of them. Okay.

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No need for that. No need for that. There's a

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section where you can talk shit about Spurs.

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We haven't gotten to that yet. You just can't

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help yourself. All right. So the next point I

00:21:01.829 --> 00:21:04.529
want to say is that it's boring to say Salah

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and Gakpo are shit. It's an automatic ball giveaway,

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but they're not picking themselves, right? Slot

00:21:10.910 --> 00:21:13.549
is seeing these guys drop stinker after stinker

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and he still plays them. Basically, we're playing

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with one hand tied behind our backs with two

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players that are just not contributing. They're

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becoming liabilities. Not becoming. They've been

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liabilities for like the past 10 game weeks.

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And a coach who just cannot see past him. Maybe

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Salah finishes the season the way he started

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the last one and you guys win the Champions League.

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That's never been his forte. He's showing up

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in big games. Tell me a game where... Okay, show

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me a semi -final where he scored and show me

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a final where he scored a non -penalty goal.

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You can't. I know you were thinking about it,

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but you can't because he's very poor in the big

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games. And when I bring that up, people will

00:22:01.750 --> 00:22:04.250
be like, oh, what about City? What about Man

00:22:04.250 --> 00:22:06.829
United? What about Spurs? Blah, blah, blah. That's

00:22:06.829 --> 00:22:09.569
in the league with very little pressure. In the

00:22:09.569 --> 00:22:14.289
really big games where you need to, it's crunch

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time. It's a semi -final of the Champions League.

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It's maybe an unpopular thing to say, but the

00:22:19.109 --> 00:22:21.930
only reason we got past Barcelona. in the Champions

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League semi -final was because Salah wasn't playing.

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And, well, yeah, that's it, because Salah wasn't

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playing. If it had been Mane injured instead

00:22:29.130 --> 00:22:31.890
of Salah, we would have lost that game. Facts,

00:22:31.930 --> 00:22:36.130
in my opinion. Yeah, I mean, like, for me, it's

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like it just depends. I could agree with that

00:22:40.410 --> 00:22:43.319
argument, but I still think that... It's like

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you're cutting the margins very fine because

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there's only probably like a select group of

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players who consistently perform in those games.

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Okay, but what's Salah's reputation? Is he not

00:22:54.599 --> 00:22:56.519
supposed to be one of those guys? No, but I'm

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saying wouldn't that make the... Like I'm saying

00:22:59.500 --> 00:23:02.240
it shouldn't necessarily affect... Football is

00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:05.119
a week -to -week thing. Like I think if that's

00:23:05.119 --> 00:23:06.799
the argument we're making, then we could say

00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:09.599
that... What is it? Didier Drogba is a better

00:23:09.599 --> 00:23:12.380
footballer than Thierry Henry. I think it's both.

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You have to kind of stat pad against the small

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teams, but show up against the big teams as well.

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You don't necessarily have to score a hat -trick,

00:23:20.500 --> 00:23:23.279
but, you know, impose yourself. You know what

00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:24.980
I'm saying? Yeah, I mean, but I think in the

00:23:24.980 --> 00:23:28.980
league, he has his best performances are against...

00:23:28.980 --> 00:23:32.000
Burnley. No, I mean... Man Utd. Man Utd, Arsenal.

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He's very good against us. Not Arsenal. I think...

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His, like, his really big scores are mainly Man

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United. Yeah. Yeah, but he scored quite a lot

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against us. Sure, sure. I just don't think of

00:23:43.839 --> 00:23:46.779
Arsenal as, like, happy hunting grounds for Salah,

00:23:46.779 --> 00:23:49.539
in my mind. And, I mean, he's done well against

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City. Chelsea, decently as well. Three goals.

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So, I'm saying, I think... But, I literally,

00:23:55.539 --> 00:23:58.039
I said this point that it's fine in the league.

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He can show up in the league. What about the

00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:02.180
semi -finals? No, but I'm saying then who would

00:24:02.180 --> 00:24:06.460
necessarily... Mane did? Yeah, Mane and Firmino.

00:24:06.500 --> 00:24:09.920
They both showed up. I'm not denying that. Divock

00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:13.400
Origi. I'm saying to get to that position is

00:24:13.400 --> 00:24:17.099
still important. I feel like the same thing could

00:24:17.099 --> 00:24:19.579
have been said. That's why probably Arsenal didn't

00:24:19.579 --> 00:24:22.529
win the Champions League. Henri was able to get

00:24:22.529 --> 00:24:24.869
us to a certain point to be competitive in everything,

00:24:25.089 --> 00:24:27.450
but maybe he needed players who could... One

00:24:27.450 --> 00:24:29.849
more clutch. Yeah, like I think when Bergkamp

00:24:29.849 --> 00:24:31.930
was injured, we didn't really have a clutch player

00:24:31.930 --> 00:24:34.009
in those days, especially in the biggest moments.

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So he was like a one -man team in the Champions

00:24:36.369 --> 00:24:39.750
League for us. So it's like I'm saying I understand

00:24:39.750 --> 00:24:41.849
your argument, but at the same time, I think

00:24:41.849 --> 00:24:45.329
you can't project it onto Salah because his expectation

00:24:45.329 --> 00:24:47.910
is not something that's necessarily on his own

00:24:47.910 --> 00:24:50.410
shoulders. Like I think he came from Chelsea.

00:24:51.019 --> 00:24:53.180
where he was written off, he went to Roma, built

00:24:53.180 --> 00:24:56.900
himself up. He was generally good in... In the

00:24:56.900 --> 00:24:58.799
league, he's been good in the big fixtures and

00:24:58.799 --> 00:25:00.779
the small fixtures. Maybe he's struggled in the

00:25:00.779 --> 00:25:03.119
Champions League, in the semifinals and the final,

00:25:03.259 --> 00:25:05.279
but there's a lot of great players who would

00:25:05.279 --> 00:25:07.859
fall into that bracket. All right, but what does

00:25:07.859 --> 00:25:10.440
that have to do with performing against Nottingham

00:25:10.440 --> 00:25:13.480
Forest on a random Sunday? No, I'm not saying

00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:16.339
you're wrong. I'm saying that I don't think...

00:25:16.339 --> 00:25:19.279
Look, he's had a good career, but time is up.

00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:24.240
I agree with that. I just don't think it was

00:25:24.240 --> 00:25:27.000
fair to say he's always been a liability when

00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:30.180
just last year he won you the league. No, I didn't

00:25:30.180 --> 00:25:31.900
say anything about the league. All I said was

00:25:31.900 --> 00:25:34.720
the Champions League. That's all I criticized

00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:36.420
him for. I mean, you can't really always win

00:25:36.420 --> 00:25:39.289
the Champions League either because... Even someone

00:25:39.289 --> 00:25:43.710
like KDB. We went to two finals, right? All I'm

00:25:43.710 --> 00:25:46.150
judging him is based on those two finals. Did

00:25:46.150 --> 00:25:48.329
he do anything in the semis? Did he do anything

00:25:48.329 --> 00:25:51.029
in the finals? Well, I mean... In the opportunities

00:25:51.029 --> 00:25:53.630
that he's had. That's all I'm comparing it with.

00:25:53.849 --> 00:25:56.509
In the first season, though, his first season

00:25:56.509 --> 00:25:58.849
with you guys, he had a very good... And he was

00:25:58.849 --> 00:26:01.829
unfortunately injured by Ramos in the final when

00:26:01.829 --> 00:26:03.390
he was probably the best player in the world

00:26:03.390 --> 00:26:05.829
at the time. That was his second season. Oh,

00:26:05.829 --> 00:26:09.359
second season. Yeah. I understand he got injured

00:26:09.359 --> 00:26:11.960
in the final, but just talk about the semi -final

00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:14.759
then. Didn't he do well? I mean, he did well

00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:19.980
against Roma. He did. He did very well against

00:26:19.980 --> 00:26:23.960
Roma, yeah. Alright, fine. What else? I'm just

00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:26.180
saying, if you're cutting the margins, I would

00:26:26.180 --> 00:26:28.359
say Salah goes in the same book as Thierry Henry,

00:26:28.460 --> 00:26:30.180
so he's still one of the greats of the game.

00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:32.799
But I can understand it's time to move him on.

00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:35.640
I felt that about Henri in 06 as well. I felt

00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:37.380
it was the right time when Bossa signed him.

00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:40.380
Yeah, but unfortunately, I'm fighting against

00:26:40.380 --> 00:26:44.559
a cult on Twitter. The Salah cult say he's in

00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:47.920
a small drop of form. It's been months now. How

00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:50.200
long has it been that he's been in a small drop

00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:54.160
of form? Why are the standards so low for him?

00:26:54.680 --> 00:26:59.599
Where it should be sky high based on wages, past

00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:03.980
performance. uh you know all these things yeah

00:27:03.980 --> 00:27:06.960
i get it i mean he's a big brand so i think that

00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:09.220
like the way he listens he makes his money back

00:27:09.220 --> 00:27:11.180
like with those sorts of players it's always

00:27:11.180 --> 00:27:13.980
like okay you give them the weightless they make

00:27:13.980 --> 00:27:16.099
you the money back in terms of endorsements well

00:27:16.099 --> 00:27:18.960
since he's not okay okay yeah sorry it's not

00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:21.900
necessarily a big knock to take but i can understand

00:27:21.900 --> 00:27:24.380
like he is going to be moved on at the end of

00:27:24.380 --> 00:27:27.529
the season hypothetically i think If everything

00:27:27.529 --> 00:27:30.569
clicks, he's probably still maybe Ekitike, maybe

00:27:30.569 --> 00:27:33.529
Isak. But for me, he's still the player that

00:27:33.529 --> 00:27:36.049
can win you guys something in the remainder of

00:27:36.049 --> 00:27:40.529
the season. Sure. I would think it's a combination

00:27:40.529 --> 00:27:44.970
of Sabotslai and Wurz. Yes, I agree. Wurz finding

00:27:44.970 --> 00:27:48.069
his creative bag and Sabotslai just being a man

00:27:48.069 --> 00:27:50.890
-man who runs until his legs fall off. Those

00:27:50.890 --> 00:27:54.099
are... The cornerstones of, I guess, Van Dijk

00:27:54.099 --> 00:27:57.720
and Alisson. But in an attacking sense, I mean

00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:01.960
the two of them. As far as the end product goes,

00:28:02.200 --> 00:28:04.880
I feel like even if you could rely on Iketike

00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:09.000
for goals, I still feel like he might not do

00:28:09.000 --> 00:28:12.400
the right things all the time. But he still has

00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:14.160
the ability, probably, when I've watched you

00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:16.619
guys, he can create two or three clear -cut chances

00:28:16.619 --> 00:28:19.000
in a game. In the Champions League, that's enough.

00:28:20.059 --> 00:28:25.759
um okay so the thing is rio ngamoa comes on 20

00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:29.960
minutes ago and he uh he just shows that shows

00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:32.559
us what we've been missing did everything he

00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:37.880
tried come off no but is he showing us that you

00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:41.980
know actually trying things is how we you know

00:28:41.980 --> 00:28:45.759
get things done you know why is it that a 17

00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:48.299
year old or however old he is is the one that's

00:28:48.299 --> 00:28:51.579
doing that It's a damn shame. Yeah, it is. I

00:28:51.579 --> 00:28:54.299
mean, I think obviously there's things to be

00:28:54.299 --> 00:28:56.519
handled off the pitch as well. I think a lot

00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:58.579
of the squad probably has to be moved on, not

00:28:58.579 --> 00:29:03.019
just Salah and Gakpo. But those are the biggest

00:29:03.019 --> 00:29:06.200
culprits. If I don't know anything about football

00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:09.420
and I'm watching those, I would immediately pick

00:29:09.420 --> 00:29:12.740
them out as the culprits. let's be that maybe

00:29:12.740 --> 00:29:15.299
slot is banking on the experience right now he's

00:29:15.299 --> 00:29:17.519
like trying to see the season out stay in games

00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:20.640
and let's hope that maybe even if they're not

00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:22.539
playing well they can win you the game you know

00:29:22.539 --> 00:29:25.599
that yeah yeah i really don't have anything else

00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:28.740
to say i just wanted to say that it's it's slots

00:29:28.740 --> 00:29:32.420
i firmly laid the blame at slots feet because

00:29:32.420 --> 00:29:36.460
salah is not picking himself Gakpo is not picking

00:29:36.460 --> 00:29:39.740
himself. It's Slot that's making these decisions,

00:29:39.859 --> 00:29:43.380
and these decisions are not working out. So you

00:29:43.380 --> 00:29:45.140
should try new things. The fact that he's not

00:29:45.140 --> 00:29:48.579
trying new things is what's worrying. Earlier

00:29:48.579 --> 00:29:50.740
in the season, we were losing, but he was trying

00:29:50.740 --> 00:29:55.660
new things, trying ways to combat what was happening

00:29:55.660 --> 00:29:58.299
to us. Now he's not trying with the wingers.

00:29:58.299 --> 00:30:01.599
He's played the same wingers for the past. however

00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:04.319
many games and it's been a disgrace yeah i agree

00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:07.319
like uh in terms of i don't think it's good to

00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:09.640
persist with something that's not working okay

00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:13.400
then so the second half just kind of follows

00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:16.980
the same pattern of like them attacking us attacking

00:30:16.980 --> 00:30:20.039
it's uh not really anything happens and then

00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:22.940
mcallister gets a goal ruled out because it hits

00:30:22.940 --> 00:30:27.269
his arm and i was kind of fuming At the time,

00:30:27.309 --> 00:30:30.630
I understand it's the rules that if it hits your

00:30:30.630 --> 00:30:34.009
arm at any point, even unintentionally, it shouldn't

00:30:34.009 --> 00:30:36.089
be a goal. It has to be chalked off. It has to

00:30:36.089 --> 00:30:37.970
be chalked off, but I just thought it was very

00:30:37.970 --> 00:30:41.549
unfortunate because he's turned around and it

00:30:41.549 --> 00:30:44.190
hits him on the back and a bit on the arm, and

00:30:44.190 --> 00:30:47.029
then it goes in. So it's really not his fault,

00:30:47.089 --> 00:30:51.769
but it is what it is. Then he gets another opportunity

00:30:51.769 --> 00:30:57.039
at a goal. Now, the big talking point that is

00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:00.579
not talked about is that Ekotike is offside.

00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:03.339
The big thing everyone is talking about is Van

00:31:03.339 --> 00:31:05.880
Dijk is offside, which, I mean, excuse me, Van

00:31:05.880 --> 00:31:08.920
Dijk is onside, which I agree with. But Ekotike

00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:12.839
is influencing the play by being involved there,

00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:16.319
which is, I just really think it's Lavapool at

00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:20.720
it again. I mean, it's the refereeing committee

00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:23.559
at it again. More than anything, because like

00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:26.680
we said, we're probably going to discuss more

00:31:26.680 --> 00:31:29.880
games where bad refereeing comes into the equation.

00:31:30.079 --> 00:31:33.839
So it's not a specific team. Obviously, if it

00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:35.559
happens to your team, you can feel there's a

00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:39.960
bias. Well, it did. It happened to the team that

00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:42.240
I'm not supporting, and I still feel like...

00:31:42.460 --> 00:31:45.359
they got robbed yeah no but i mean like that's

00:31:45.359 --> 00:31:49.160
this is speaking more to the the the pg mol more

00:31:49.160 --> 00:31:52.059
than it's speaking to any specific team or they're

00:31:52.059 --> 00:31:55.319
being a bias because so you don't think they're

00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:58.440
keeping city in the title race by not not recording

00:31:58.440 --> 00:32:01.240
bernardo and they're keeping us in the top four

00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:03.900
race by you know allowing that i mean they could

00:32:03.900 --> 00:32:06.400
definitely have an agenda -based narrative in

00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:08.059
terms of but i wouldn't think that's something

00:32:08.059 --> 00:32:09.900
that's new i would say that's something that

00:32:09.900 --> 00:32:12.660
then has to be addressed because At different

00:32:12.660 --> 00:32:15.220
points, I felt that, oh, the Seasons were going

00:32:15.220 --> 00:32:18.579
against Arsenal last season. And then that's

00:32:18.579 --> 00:32:22.950
obviously you're like, what is it? processing

00:32:22.950 --> 00:32:25.049
it in the moment you're processing it as a fan

00:32:25.049 --> 00:32:27.690
so it feels like oh okay this happened to me

00:32:27.690 --> 00:32:30.269
so this is harsh and then it's like okay now

00:32:30.269 --> 00:32:32.930
you can see Arsenal has maybe elevated their

00:32:32.930 --> 00:32:35.029
status a bit and a lot more decisions are going

00:32:35.029 --> 00:32:37.130
our way so you could be right but I think it

00:32:37.130 --> 00:32:40.950
speaks more to the fact that the PGMOL is a corrupt

00:32:40.950 --> 00:32:44.289
organization that cares more about platforming

00:32:44.289 --> 00:32:46.630
their referees as celebrities than anything else.

00:32:49.199 --> 00:32:51.660
Alright, anything else to say about this Nottingham

00:32:51.660 --> 00:32:55.140
Forest Liverpool game? Not really. I mean, good

00:32:55.140 --> 00:32:57.500
win for you guys. I still expect you guys to

00:32:57.500 --> 00:33:01.380
make the top four. It's not going to happen with

00:33:01.380 --> 00:33:03.180
us playing like the way we played yesterday.

00:33:04.180 --> 00:33:06.819
I see your argument, but Arsenal have played

00:33:06.819 --> 00:33:08.799
a lot worse and made the top four in the past.

00:33:09.579 --> 00:33:12.539
it still is very possible I think you're coming

00:33:12.539 --> 00:33:14.519
from the expectation where you're watching Liverpool

00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:16.779
be one of the absolute best teams in the world

00:33:16.779 --> 00:33:20.400
for like the last decade so naturally watching

00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:23.420
them play at a level below as a Champions League

00:33:23.420 --> 00:33:25.119
level team is probably something you're not used

00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:27.660
to now but when I watch you guys you guys do

00:33:27.660 --> 00:33:29.660
remind me of Arsenal and Chelsea in the past

00:33:29.660 --> 00:33:32.440
it's a normal form normal level of performance

00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:36.140
for a top four team you know I'm just so, I'm

00:33:36.140 --> 00:33:39.559
comparing it to Klopp, so it's an unreal standard

00:33:39.559 --> 00:33:42.680
to compare to. Especially in a moment of transition.

00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:45.559
It's still a long way to go for the Liverpool

00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:49.039
project in terms of, I think, the next upcoming

00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:51.980
transfer market will dictate the future of the

00:33:51.980 --> 00:33:54.980
project a lot. And whoever the coach is at the

00:33:54.980 --> 00:33:57.240
time of that transfer market, I guess. Alright,

00:33:57.299 --> 00:34:02.779
well, let's move on to Spurs 1, Arsenal 4. I

00:34:02.779 --> 00:34:04.519
assume you're just going to do the majority of

00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:07.940
the talking. So let me just make two quick points

00:34:07.940 --> 00:34:12.980
and then you can take over. I just thought Spurs'

00:34:13.059 --> 00:34:17.019
makeshift back five was not gelling at all. They

00:34:17.019 --> 00:34:22.280
played Van de Ven, excuse me, Jed Spence on the

00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:27.639
left, Van de Ven, Palinia, Dragozan, and Archie

00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:32.150
Gray at fullback. I mean, in fairness to them,

00:34:32.230 --> 00:34:34.289
they're going through one of the craziest injury

00:34:34.289 --> 00:34:36.630
crises a team could go through. That is true.

00:34:36.909 --> 00:34:42.610
But we have been mentioning how Archie Gray has

00:34:42.610 --> 00:34:45.110
been messed around and played out of position.

00:34:45.630 --> 00:34:50.190
And fullback, I think, should be his final straw.

00:34:50.429 --> 00:34:53.469
I think he should leave Spurs the way he's been

00:34:53.469 --> 00:34:55.829
treated. Yeah, he's not being treated well at

00:34:55.829 --> 00:35:00.159
all. Go to, like, maybe Sunderland. Or Newcastle

00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:03.340
and, like, you know... Somewhere where you'll

00:35:03.340 --> 00:35:09.440
be respected. Yes. Really, it's... What I would

00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:11.679
have done is played Jed Spence on the right,

00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:14.599
Van de Ven on the left, and then played Archie

00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:18.559
Gray as the deep... Like, the centre -centre

00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:22.840
-back to dictate play, kind of. I mean, the only

00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:28.300
thing maybe I could... see from Tottenham's perspective

00:35:28.300 --> 00:35:30.940
was that it was Tudor's first game so maybe he

00:35:30.940 --> 00:35:33.119
was just applying the dynamics that were already

00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:35.440
there trying to go with what Thomas Frank already

00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:38.699
does it's hard to say because in a lot of ways

00:35:38.699 --> 00:35:41.659
when I watched Tudor at Juventus a lot of the

00:35:41.659 --> 00:35:44.019
same mistakes came up even after one game so

00:35:44.489 --> 00:35:46.909
it could be something like if you generally like

00:35:46.909 --> 00:35:50.210
he tends to press you high and if he sits off

00:35:50.210 --> 00:35:52.570
his mid block is terrible i think the distances

00:35:52.570 --> 00:35:55.329
the players don't know where to go if he presses

00:35:55.329 --> 00:35:57.210
high and gets it right his teams can be really

00:35:57.210 --> 00:35:59.510
attractive i think that's maybe what People were

00:35:59.510 --> 00:36:01.590
assuming he was going to bring to Juventus, coming

00:36:01.590 --> 00:36:04.210
from Lazio as well. And people were hoping he'd

00:36:04.210 --> 00:36:07.389
bring to Tottenham now. But I think if I was

00:36:07.389 --> 00:36:09.989
Audrey Gray, honestly, in terms of... I would

00:36:09.989 --> 00:36:12.010
like some guarantees. I don't think Tottenham's

00:36:12.010 --> 00:36:14.949
a bad club to be at, in terms of right now, at

00:36:14.949 --> 00:36:17.210
this point of his career, he has... Just hang

00:36:17.210 --> 00:36:21.289
on. They bought Paulinho at this window to play

00:36:21.289 --> 00:36:24.329
CDM. They have Basuma. Yeah, but I think Autry

00:36:24.329 --> 00:36:27.610
Gray, in the midfield, he could be versatile

00:36:27.610 --> 00:36:31.389
between 8 and 6. But I'm saying he's not getting

00:36:31.389 --> 00:36:34.489
that opportunity. Yeah, so I think the main thing

00:36:34.489 --> 00:36:36.610
for him would be he needs some guarantees from

00:36:36.610 --> 00:36:38.449
Tottenham. What's going to happen in the off

00:36:38.449 --> 00:36:40.989
-season? Who's coming in? What is his future?

00:36:41.489 --> 00:36:43.929
From Tottenham's perspective, I just don't understand

00:36:43.929 --> 00:36:47.309
it either. Why are you playing potentially one

00:36:47.309 --> 00:36:49.969
of... A player who's been spoken about for a

00:36:49.969 --> 00:36:53.340
while as one of the... the best young players

00:36:53.340 --> 00:36:55.260
in the country why are you playing him at uh

00:36:55.260 --> 00:36:57.980
like just like not letting him develop i guess

00:36:57.980 --> 00:36:59.780
you're playing him all over the park you're over

00:36:59.780 --> 00:37:02.480
playing him you're putting physical demands on

00:37:02.480 --> 00:37:04.619
him that are kind of ridiculous the only thing

00:37:04.619 --> 00:37:06.780
i will empathize with tudor though is that uh

00:37:06.780 --> 00:37:10.000
fan defense seems very like it seems very terrible

00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:13.000
one -on -one so i think being in a position where

00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:14.960
you'd have to face a lot of one -on -one duels

00:37:14.960 --> 00:37:17.280
maybe he thought that he's just gonna get done

00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:20.389
the whole time because Every time someone came

00:37:20.389 --> 00:37:22.650
to him in a one -on -one situation, even at centre

00:37:22.650 --> 00:37:24.570
-back, he was completely getting done. No matter

00:37:24.570 --> 00:37:27.409
who it was, whether it was Saka, Trossard, Madueke

00:37:27.409 --> 00:37:31.050
when he came on. I think it was just not really...

00:37:31.050 --> 00:37:33.510
I don't think Tudor knew much what to do with

00:37:33.510 --> 00:37:36.090
the team from the first game. But I don't think

00:37:36.090 --> 00:37:38.889
Van der Veen as a full -back is especially...

00:37:38.889 --> 00:37:41.909
Well, he wasn't a full -back. He was a left -sided

00:37:41.909 --> 00:37:44.710
centre -back. No, no, I'm saying like to what

00:37:44.710 --> 00:37:47.289
you were saying. I think if... I can empathize

00:37:47.289 --> 00:37:49.789
with Tudor a bit in that I think Autry Gray still

00:37:49.789 --> 00:37:52.590
reads the game well. He's good at intercepting.

00:37:52.590 --> 00:37:55.389
He's good at tackling. So I don't think Van der

00:37:55.389 --> 00:37:58.190
Veen is good at that. Maybe that's what he was

00:37:58.190 --> 00:38:00.590
looking at in terms of that's the option he had

00:38:00.590 --> 00:38:03.130
with the injury crisis. That's fair. Okay, you

00:38:03.130 --> 00:38:04.590
can go. What was the second point you wanted

00:38:04.590 --> 00:38:07.329
to make? The second point is just... So it was

00:38:07.329 --> 00:38:09.789
1 -1 at halftime. And I thought it was kind of

00:38:09.789 --> 00:38:12.949
an uninspiring first half. But then Arsenal really

00:38:12.949 --> 00:38:16.750
just... turn it on and become so aggressive and

00:38:16.750 --> 00:38:19.150
press high in the second half and it leads to

00:38:19.150 --> 00:38:23.309
so many chances uh scoreline aside they could

00:38:23.309 --> 00:38:26.889
have just had any it could have been like it

00:38:26.889 --> 00:38:29.010
was four but it could have been anywhere up until

00:38:29.010 --> 00:38:31.550
like six seven eight that's already enough i

00:38:31.550 --> 00:38:33.929
mean there were so many chances it's awesome

00:38:33.929 --> 00:38:36.909
we're actually uh A little bit wasteful, in fact,

00:38:36.989 --> 00:38:39.989
with the amount of chances they got. A lot of

00:38:39.989 --> 00:38:42.170
the dynamics where the chances were created came

00:38:42.170 --> 00:38:44.690
when Saka was breaking through the centre and

00:38:44.690 --> 00:38:46.929
Eze was pushed onto the left, which again...

00:38:46.929 --> 00:38:49.030
Is what you want. That's what I wanted. I just,

00:38:49.150 --> 00:38:51.530
like, Eze makes things happen. But maybe it's

00:38:51.530 --> 00:38:55.070
a thing of, like, in training, because, like,

00:38:55.150 --> 00:38:57.530
you know when you're training, I don't know,

00:38:57.670 --> 00:39:00.230
like, for people who've played football, if you're

00:39:00.230 --> 00:39:02.369
training against someone and you train against

00:39:02.369 --> 00:39:05.250
them every week, you begin to understand that,

00:39:05.269 --> 00:39:07.730
okay, if this player improvises a lot, you expect

00:39:07.730 --> 00:39:10.550
it, so you lay off. And maybe in training, players

00:39:10.550 --> 00:39:13.590
stand off as they, and it becomes harder for

00:39:13.590 --> 00:39:16.329
him to understand the dynamics when he hasn't

00:39:16.329 --> 00:39:18.570
played in the system for as long as everyone

00:39:18.570 --> 00:39:21.250
else. But I think for opposition players who

00:39:21.250 --> 00:39:23.329
don't know him, who don't train with him, the

00:39:23.329 --> 00:39:25.190
fact that he just does things on the cuff of

00:39:25.190 --> 00:39:27.539
the moment that he like. interprets the game

00:39:27.539 --> 00:39:30.340
in the moment he's he's he's very much an emotional

00:39:30.340 --> 00:39:32.679
player not in a bad way like he goes with the

00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:34.739
game state he reads the game state very well

00:39:34.739 --> 00:39:38.280
so i think it's something where maybe like arteta

00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:40.960
has to sacrifice a bit of control and just understand

00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:43.659
that this guy on the left is is the best and

00:39:43.659 --> 00:39:46.300
it frees saka up a lot through the center it

00:39:46.300 --> 00:39:49.099
frees Saka up a lot to be able to crash the box

00:39:49.099 --> 00:39:51.079
to be able to focus on shooting and assisting

00:39:51.079 --> 00:39:53.300
more because Eze can do more of the build -up

00:39:53.300 --> 00:39:55.920
play the dribbling the linking you know and to

00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:59.039
be honest with you the people that have been

00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:02.159
played at left wing Martinelli and Trossard haven't

00:40:02.159 --> 00:40:04.400
filled me with a lot of confidence yeah no way

00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:07.159
like just the I think the 10 or 15 minutes Eze

00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:09.780
was on the left yesterday was like crazy i think

00:40:09.780 --> 00:40:11.380
he might have created two or three clear -cut

00:40:11.380 --> 00:40:13.920
chances i was like leave him there but then by

00:40:13.920 --> 00:40:16.260
the end of the game he was back on the back through

00:40:16.260 --> 00:40:18.699
the center sucker was back on the right so i

00:40:18.699 --> 00:40:20.820
think maybe i'll tend to like something about

00:40:20.820 --> 00:40:23.500
the defensive dynamics uh do you want to get

00:40:23.500 --> 00:40:25.639
into individual moments or do you have any other

00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:28.059
things you want to say about general gameplay

00:40:28.059 --> 00:40:32.159
i mean the like the general gameplay i'd say

00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:35.219
was like pretty much dominant from us like i

00:40:35.219 --> 00:40:37.710
think The only problems I'd have were, again,

00:40:37.750 --> 00:40:39.809
from our own errors. I think in the first half

00:40:39.809 --> 00:40:42.289
we gave the ball away a bit sloppily. I think

00:40:42.289 --> 00:40:45.409
Saliba made a few uncharacteristic errors. Gabriel

00:40:45.409 --> 00:40:48.250
gave the ball away twice, I think. I was very

00:40:48.250 --> 00:40:50.150
impressed with Timber, though. I think Timber

00:40:50.150 --> 00:40:52.090
was probably the most consistent player throughout

00:40:52.090 --> 00:40:53.670
the game. He kept making the right decisions,

00:40:53.829 --> 00:40:57.849
kept covering for Gabriel, Saliba as well. I

00:40:57.849 --> 00:40:59.329
was very impressed with Timber, and especially

00:40:59.329 --> 00:41:02.309
for the second goal. I think Timber did something

00:41:02.309 --> 00:41:04.969
in the game that I think he kind of took the

00:41:04.969 --> 00:41:06.730
initiative. He kept playing the ball through

00:41:06.730 --> 00:41:08.630
the centre a lot, and then the rest of the team

00:41:08.630 --> 00:41:10.409
followed his cues. Like you said, by the second

00:41:10.409 --> 00:41:12.730
half, we were attacking the centre of the pitch

00:41:12.730 --> 00:41:14.969
consistently, and almost every time we had the

00:41:14.969 --> 00:41:17.289
ball, we were creating a chance. So I want to

00:41:17.289 --> 00:41:19.210
give a lot of credit to Timber for being able

00:41:19.210 --> 00:41:21.110
to... I don't think it's something that comes

00:41:21.110 --> 00:41:23.130
naturally to his game. It's something he's been

00:41:23.130 --> 00:41:26.059
shy to do, but... No one else was making the

00:41:26.059 --> 00:41:28.400
line -breaking passes, and I think he just decided

00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:30.659
to do it once, decided to do it twice, and then

00:41:30.659 --> 00:41:33.159
everyone followed suit, and it was flowing a

00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:34.679
lot smoothly for the rest of the game. Well,

00:41:34.699 --> 00:41:37.280
we spoke about this in the last game, that it

00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:40.539
was Gabriel who took the initiative to do those

00:41:40.539 --> 00:41:44.280
kinds of passes, and it's good to see that now

00:41:44.280 --> 00:41:46.260
it's Timber, it's the rest of the team, it's

00:41:46.260 --> 00:41:49.340
not just Gabriel that's doing that. Any other

00:41:49.340 --> 00:41:51.059
things you want to say before we get into individual

00:41:51.059 --> 00:41:53.809
moments? uh no i mean we can go into the individual

00:41:53.809 --> 00:41:56.829
moments so for the first goal soccer i think

00:41:56.829 --> 00:41:59.809
got lucky uh because he was like dribbling and

00:41:59.809 --> 00:42:02.590
it bounced off the guy and yeah deflection deflected

00:42:02.590 --> 00:42:05.809
into his part yes uh he puts in a good cross

00:42:05.809 --> 00:42:09.440
and Eze just had far too much time on the ball.

00:42:09.559 --> 00:42:13.000
He lets it, it bounces up and he still gets time

00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:16.719
to hit it again. The Spurs players were just

00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:19.559
not ball watching because I saw Dragus didn't

00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:22.079
make a move but they were just too slow to react.

00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:24.260
Yeah, he miscontrols it and then he has enough

00:42:24.260 --> 00:42:26.820
time to finish it comfortably. It was a good

00:42:26.820 --> 00:42:30.579
finish in the end but very, very poor marking

00:42:30.579 --> 00:42:35.389
from Tottenham. Yes. Spurs' goal, Colomoni just

00:42:35.389 --> 00:42:37.309
robs Declan Rice, who was just caught in two

00:42:37.309 --> 00:42:40.510
mines. Yeah, the uncharacteristic bad mistake.

00:42:41.230 --> 00:42:46.590
Yes. But, like I said, do you think it's a confidence

00:42:46.590 --> 00:42:49.909
thing? With? Because, like, generally Declan

00:42:49.909 --> 00:42:51.690
Rice would just get the ball and whack it out

00:42:51.690 --> 00:42:55.630
of there. You know... I think maybe... He was

00:42:55.630 --> 00:42:58.510
just caught in two mines. Or is that just a once

00:42:58.510 --> 00:43:00.510
-off mistake, or am I reading too much into it?

00:43:00.769 --> 00:43:03.679
No, I think... I think they probably, it seemed

00:43:03.679 --> 00:43:05.840
like they were holding on to the ball more, playing

00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:08.079
out more. So I think it might have been maybe

00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:11.519
something that came from the coach. Like, I don't

00:43:11.519 --> 00:43:13.360
think Tottenham are particularly in the best

00:43:13.360 --> 00:43:17.900
form right now. So although it's like our biggest

00:43:17.900 --> 00:43:21.500
personal game, in the current form, I think you're

00:43:21.500 --> 00:43:24.099
still coming up against one of the worst teams

00:43:24.099 --> 00:43:27.079
in the league. So I think in that sense, Arteta

00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:29.880
was probably telling them. we can use this to

00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:32.400
practice a bit more, like hold on to possession.

00:43:32.619 --> 00:43:34.599
So I think Declan Rice was caught into two minds

00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:37.800
where he would have usually, like you said, sent

00:43:37.800 --> 00:43:39.780
it straight up. I think now he was trying to

00:43:39.780 --> 00:43:43.000
break the press by himself or find the pass to

00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:44.920
the central areas, which is good. I think it's

00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:47.480
good. You have to practice in real game situations

00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:50.079
as well. You're going to make errors. It's going

00:43:50.079 --> 00:43:51.739
to happen. I think he had an incredible second

00:43:51.739 --> 00:43:53.579
half, so he made up for it. It didn't affect

00:43:53.579 --> 00:43:56.769
his confidence. And you don't expect Kola Mwani

00:43:56.769 --> 00:44:01.369
to be, you know, to score. I mean, it was a good

00:44:01.369 --> 00:44:04.190
finish. It was a good finish, yes. Now, I actually

00:44:04.190 --> 00:44:07.690
switched over to my little Word document where

00:44:07.690 --> 00:44:10.389
I make notes while I'm watching the game. So

00:44:10.389 --> 00:44:12.710
I didn't see the goal. I just heard the back

00:44:12.710 --> 00:44:15.530
of the net rifle. You know that sweet sound where

00:44:15.530 --> 00:44:19.650
it just... Yeah, everyone knows the sound. What's

00:44:19.650 --> 00:44:24.070
it called? Rifling. Yeah, the ball hitting the

00:44:24.070 --> 00:44:29.110
net. Yeah, very nice sound. Yeah. Then Paulinho

00:44:29.110 --> 00:44:32.690
left Jokres unmarked, and he takes a nice shot.

00:44:32.929 --> 00:44:35.809
Vaccaro is just a shirtkeeper, so he lets it

00:44:35.809 --> 00:44:39.309
go through, and that's essentially the winning

00:44:39.309 --> 00:44:43.469
goal at 2 -1. I'm very frustrated because I took

00:44:43.469 --> 00:44:47.510
Jokres out of my fantasy team. I just thought...

00:44:47.920 --> 00:44:50.380
He dropped such a stinker against Wolves. I was

00:44:50.380 --> 00:44:53.179
so furious. And I was like, this guy, if he drops

00:44:53.179 --> 00:44:54.940
such a stinker against the worst team in the

00:44:54.940 --> 00:44:56.739
league, what is he going to do against Spurs?

00:44:56.860 --> 00:44:58.760
The second worst team in the league. I thought

00:44:58.760 --> 00:45:04.260
it would be a much tighter game. But yeah, they

00:45:04.260 --> 00:45:06.659
just gave him far too much space. I'm skipping

00:45:06.659 --> 00:45:08.739
the third one for the moment just to also speak

00:45:08.739 --> 00:45:12.320
about Jokers' second goal, the fourth goal. Again,

00:45:12.420 --> 00:45:16.079
just far too much space. He cuts in. Excuse me,

00:45:16.099 --> 00:45:19.099
not cuts in. Trossard plays him in. Yeah, he

00:45:19.099 --> 00:45:23.400
gets played in and then he shoots again. Keeper

00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:26.300
could have done better. Scores his second. The

00:45:26.300 --> 00:45:29.360
third goal, nice interplay between Eze and Saka.

00:45:30.019 --> 00:45:33.000
I think Saka dribbles plus one and gets a bit

00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:35.559
lucky. Again, they got lucky because it was a

00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:38.099
fortunate bounce, but Eze makes the best out

00:45:38.099 --> 00:45:42.079
of the situation and scores again. Apparently,

00:45:42.219 --> 00:45:44.639
games against Spurs are the only games where

00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:48.960
he turns up. Because I've been looking at his

00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:51.380
stats, right? It's like nothing, nothing, nothing.

00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:53.300
Three goals against Spurs, nothing, nothing,

00:45:53.340 --> 00:45:56.059
nothing. Two goals against Spurs, nothing. But

00:45:56.059 --> 00:45:59.139
to be honest, he's also being moved around a

00:45:59.139 --> 00:46:02.460
lot, played right, played centrally. We have

00:46:02.460 --> 00:46:04.539
been discussing that Arteta hasn't given him

00:46:04.539 --> 00:46:07.619
enough opportunities. I hope, I hope, I really

00:46:07.619 --> 00:46:10.679
hope he saw that. This guy belongs on the left

00:46:10.679 --> 00:46:13.320
in that game, and Saka belongs in the center.

00:46:13.380 --> 00:46:17.460
Them together, I think we can finish the season

00:46:17.460 --> 00:46:20.179
very strongly with those dynamics. Alright, is

00:46:20.179 --> 00:46:21.760
there anything else you want to say about this

00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:26.019
game before we turn the page? I mean, just from

00:46:26.019 --> 00:46:29.670
a Tottenham perspective, like... I don't want

00:46:29.670 --> 00:46:32.449
to bash them or anything too much. But it is

00:46:32.449 --> 00:46:34.210
looking like they're getting dragged into the

00:46:34.210 --> 00:46:35.969
relegation battle. So I think they have to get

00:46:35.969 --> 00:46:38.550
some things right there. I mean, five points.

00:46:38.610 --> 00:46:41.550
Teams have been pulled down from five points

00:46:41.550 --> 00:46:44.590
at this stage before. I think West Ham and Nottingham

00:46:44.590 --> 00:46:46.630
Forest look like they're capable of going on

00:46:46.630 --> 00:46:48.570
a decent run right now. And Tottenham are looking

00:46:48.570 --> 00:46:51.230
completely off it. So just a bit worried for

00:46:51.230 --> 00:46:54.510
Tottenham. I don't want them to go down, honestly.

00:46:54.710 --> 00:46:57.389
I would like the rivalry to be there. I'm sure

00:46:57.389 --> 00:46:59.170
you wouldn't like Everton to go down. get relegated

00:46:59.170 --> 00:47:01.050
maybe you would we've spoken about it yeah i

00:47:01.050 --> 00:47:03.349
definitely don't want everton relegated like

00:47:03.349 --> 00:47:08.329
we need somebody to dunk on yeah so i mean i

00:47:08.329 --> 00:47:10.849
hope they in that sense they can figure it out

00:47:10.849 --> 00:47:13.289
and get it right because i think in the last

00:47:13.289 --> 00:47:15.750
at least since the turn of the year between them

00:47:15.750 --> 00:47:17.829
and wolves it's a toss -up for who's been the

00:47:17.829 --> 00:47:20.969
worst team in the league all right so now that

00:47:20.969 --> 00:47:23.110
we're done with that we can move on to the miscellaneous

00:47:23.110 --> 00:47:26.349
which is all the other games of the week uh aston

00:47:26.349 --> 00:47:30.099
villa one leads one So Anton Stack scores a wonderful

00:47:30.099 --> 00:47:33.400
free kick, catching the keeper out on the near

00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:36.719
side. Wonderful free kick, yeah. Yeah, nothing

00:47:36.719 --> 00:47:38.320
really to say about it. It was just a very good

00:47:38.320 --> 00:47:40.559
free kick. It was a sensational goal, yeah. Then

00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:43.760
Tammy Abrams scores from, it comes like, the

00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:46.460
ball comes in and Ezri Konza gets a header. The

00:47:46.460 --> 00:47:49.179
second ball, Tammy Abrams scores, a very good

00:47:49.179 --> 00:47:52.400
header. I was talking shit about him when Villa

00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:54.840
signed him. He's now scored in the FA Cup and

00:47:54.840 --> 00:47:59.340
the league. So, you know. They got my face. Leeds

00:47:59.340 --> 00:48:01.820
had more clear -cut chances and were unlucky

00:48:01.820 --> 00:48:04.159
to only get a draw. Leeds are looking good, though.

00:48:04.199 --> 00:48:05.800
They're playing well against everyone. Very good.

00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:08.380
I wanted to mention this in a previous episode,

00:48:08.460 --> 00:48:12.239
but what has changed with Daniel Farker's defense?

00:48:12.699 --> 00:48:15.019
Because we know he's always been a good attacking

00:48:15.019 --> 00:48:19.760
coach. It's just, I'm associating him with Norwich's

00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:23.420
very poor defense, very naive defense. And then

00:48:23.420 --> 00:48:25.929
he comes here with Leeds. i'm not saying leads

00:48:25.929 --> 00:48:28.610
have the best defense they conceded four to arsenal

00:48:28.610 --> 00:48:32.989
right yeah so they're not like super amazing

00:48:32.989 --> 00:48:36.349
but like they were very tight they were yeah

00:48:36.349 --> 00:48:39.119
i think i think he's been He's begun to incorporate

00:48:39.119 --> 00:48:42.000
a mid -block in, which is something he didn't

00:48:42.000 --> 00:48:44.920
use before. I think also at a championship level,

00:48:45.099 --> 00:48:48.119
sometimes if you... We've seen this before, maybe

00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:50.840
like with Maresca as well, where at Leicester

00:48:50.840 --> 00:48:53.239
he was able to just press high the whole game.

00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:56.380
And as long as you have the metrics, like the

00:48:56.380 --> 00:48:58.519
coaching metrics, where you're comfortably ahead

00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:01.260
of, I guess, everyone else in a coaching perspective,

00:49:01.460 --> 00:49:04.059
you can... consistently apply the high press

00:49:04.059 --> 00:49:05.920
and win every game but it's hard to come out

00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:08.500
of that mindset into like oh I'm now in a league

00:49:08.500 --> 00:49:10.380
where we're going to be the underdogs in almost

00:49:10.380 --> 00:49:13.300
every game so you have to incorporate some of

00:49:13.300 --> 00:49:15.000
a mid block like I think when you came in with

00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:16.840
Norwich it was pretty evident that they were

00:49:16.840 --> 00:49:19.300
going to get relegated from the first two or

00:49:19.300 --> 00:49:21.579
three months even though they started I think

00:49:21.579 --> 00:49:24.000
with like three wins in a row the minute they

00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:26.039
lost they got thrashed and then you knew that

00:49:26.039 --> 00:49:28.909
okay this high press It's not going to work in

00:49:28.909 --> 00:49:30.590
the Premier League, not with these players, not

00:49:30.590 --> 00:49:33.530
with this level of physicality. And I think he's

00:49:33.530 --> 00:49:36.429
brushed up on that. Shows the experience of coaching.

00:49:36.670 --> 00:49:38.929
Well, it just goes to show he's a good coach

00:49:38.929 --> 00:49:41.750
because a good coach learns from what's happened

00:49:41.750 --> 00:49:45.610
before and, you know, tries to combat that. Maybe

00:49:45.610 --> 00:49:47.409
they're not necessarily successful. A similar

00:49:47.409 --> 00:49:50.590
problem to the guy who was at Southampton, Hasenhutl.

00:49:50.690 --> 00:49:53.010
He was very good in Germany, came here, struggled.

00:49:53.150 --> 00:49:55.030
Maybe he comes back and does well. Who knows?

00:49:55.269 --> 00:49:59.469
All right. Next is Brentford 0 Brighton 2. First

00:49:59.469 --> 00:50:01.389
of all, I'm going to give some kudos to James

00:50:01.389 --> 00:50:05.030
Milner for breaking the appearance record. Big

00:50:05.030 --> 00:50:07.610
achievement. Yeah, big achievement. That being

00:50:07.610 --> 00:50:10.789
said, the number of minutes, he's played like

00:50:10.789 --> 00:50:16.449
14 ,000 less minutes than Gareth Barry. So he's

00:50:16.449 --> 00:50:19.429
been coming on as a sub for like five minutes,

00:50:19.489 --> 00:50:21.889
that kind of thing. Gareth Barry played until

00:50:21.889 --> 00:50:26.630
his legs fell off. He was really in the game.

00:50:27.099 --> 00:50:30.260
Right. And, like, the fact that the both of them

00:50:30.260 --> 00:50:33.400
are ahead of Ryan Giggs, who, like, I felt like

00:50:33.400 --> 00:50:37.300
he played forever. Yeah, that's Man United propaganda

00:50:37.300 --> 00:50:42.500
at work. Yeah. Anyway, Cadioglu, the left back,

00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:45.800
had a great shot. It comes off the bar and Diogo

00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:48.480
Gomez scores the rebound. You know, nothing to

00:50:48.480 --> 00:50:51.059
be said there. Then the Brentford defender makes

00:50:51.059 --> 00:50:53.219
a mess of the clearance and Welbeck has a tap

00:50:53.219 --> 00:50:56.380
-in. From the highlights, it looked like a balanced

00:50:56.380 --> 00:50:58.619
game. It's a shame Brentford didn't even score

00:50:58.619 --> 00:51:02.460
given the opportunities that they had. Yeah,

00:51:02.500 --> 00:51:07.440
I mean, again, I rate Herzl very highly. I think

00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:09.460
that's one of the most difficult grounds to go

00:51:09.460 --> 00:51:12.519
to. I didn't watch the game, but he seems to

00:51:12.519 --> 00:51:14.940
have the thing of being good in the big games.

00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:17.199
He was good against Arsenal. I think he's turned

00:51:17.199 --> 00:51:20.019
over Chelsea a couple of times. I know you don't

00:51:20.019 --> 00:51:23.079
rate him, but I think that's like Brentford.

00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:25.539
is one of the most difficult places to go, and

00:51:25.539 --> 00:51:28.219
it's usually the coaching that wins you that

00:51:28.219 --> 00:51:31.440
game. So I hope he gets it right. I like him.

00:51:31.480 --> 00:51:34.400
I like him a lot. Okay. Then we have Chelsea

00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:37.239
1, Burnley 1. I don't know who played the ball,

00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:39.360
but it was an exquisite ball through the lines

00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:43.960
to play in Neto. Caicedo, yes. He plays in Neto,

00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:47.320
who squared it to Jaupedro, who scored a tap

00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:50.869
-in, although it was more of a slide -in. because

00:51:50.869 --> 00:51:53.110
he, like, slides in and, like, tackles the goalkeeper

00:51:53.110 --> 00:51:57.150
somewhat. And, like, yeah. Then Wesley Fofana

00:51:57.150 --> 00:52:00.349
is sent off for an awful challenge. He actually

00:52:00.349 --> 00:52:03.349
gets a second yellow, which turned into a red,

00:52:03.409 --> 00:52:04.869
but I really thought that... It should have been

00:52:04.869 --> 00:52:08.269
a straight red. Because it was so, like, blatant

00:52:08.269 --> 00:52:12.250
and deliberate. It was, yeah, a very poor challenge.

00:52:12.630 --> 00:52:15.289
And Burnley scored with more or less the last

00:52:15.289 --> 00:52:17.690
kick of the game from a James Ward -Prowse...

00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:21.579
corner. Like I was saying with Newcastle, you

00:52:21.579 --> 00:52:23.780
know, you have Trippier and Tonali with great

00:52:23.780 --> 00:52:25.920
delivery. Ward -Prowse is one of the greatest

00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:28.440
deliverers in the... Yeah, in the league. Maybe

00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:30.940
the history of the league, even. He's really

00:52:30.940 --> 00:52:34.079
that good at delivering a free kick. Yeah, I

00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:37.800
mean, dead ball, that's his forte, right? And

00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:41.190
then Zion Fleming hit his home from that. corner

00:52:41.190 --> 00:52:44.570
yeah i mean uh like i said i was surprised with

00:52:44.570 --> 00:52:47.329
just uh i guess if this game showed anything

00:52:47.329 --> 00:52:51.010
even uh before chelsea went down to 10 men i

00:52:51.010 --> 00:52:53.929
think it was it was so evenly contested that

00:52:53.929 --> 00:52:56.550
it was like like i mean obviously you would expect

00:52:56.550 --> 00:52:58.510
chelsea to have the better of it in terms of

00:52:58.510 --> 00:53:00.809
chances but the way burnley pressed him the way

00:53:00.809 --> 00:53:03.699
burnley kept forcing errors from Chelsea, forcing

00:53:03.699 --> 00:53:06.119
errors from the centre -half, from someone like

00:53:06.119 --> 00:53:08.900
Caicedo. He made the brilliant pass, but they

00:53:08.900 --> 00:53:10.679
forced a lot of errors on him, and he's probably

00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:13.219
one of the best midfielders in the world. I mean,

00:53:13.239 --> 00:53:15.159
the standard of coaching in the Premier League,

00:53:15.219 --> 00:53:17.659
the physicality, I think that's something that

00:53:17.659 --> 00:53:20.119
the athleticism required is always something

00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:22.139
that stands out, and I was really impressed with

00:53:22.139 --> 00:53:25.320
Burnley for a team in the relegation zone. West

00:53:25.320 --> 00:53:29.219
have no, Bournemouth no. Perhaps the most shocking

00:53:29.219 --> 00:53:31.719
game of the weekend. We had two very chaotic

00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:34.440
teams that couldn't blow a blow on each other.

00:53:35.219 --> 00:53:38.199
That being said, both teams had chances. They

00:53:38.199 --> 00:53:41.179
just couldn't finish. It was just a question

00:53:41.179 --> 00:53:43.260
of being clinical and both of them failed the

00:53:43.260 --> 00:53:45.800
question. No, not much to add there for me, I

00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:48.039
think. I wish the best for Bournemouth because

00:53:48.039 --> 00:53:52.860
I like Irola, but that's... All I can say about

00:53:52.860 --> 00:53:54.500
that. I don't think he stays there beyond this

00:53:54.500 --> 00:53:57.780
season. And I wish the best to West Ham for Jared

00:53:57.780 --> 00:54:02.400
Bowen. Top, top lad. Love him so much. Palace

00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:07.119
1, Wolves 0. So Wolves got a penalty and Arokodare

00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:11.440
misses it. Not misses it, he gets saved by Dean

00:54:11.440 --> 00:54:15.219
Henderson. It was a really poor penalty. Not

00:54:15.219 --> 00:54:17.199
much to say. I mean, Wolves are gone anyway.

00:54:18.989 --> 00:54:21.489
I guess, uh, Daedalus vibes till the end of the

00:54:21.489 --> 00:54:25.389
season, you know? Hopefully, hopefully they derailed,

00:54:25.409 --> 00:54:28.989
uh, Arteta's title charge. And that's the, what

00:54:28.989 --> 00:54:31.170
we'll remember off them. Yeah, that, uh, we'll

00:54:31.170 --> 00:54:33.329
see. I don't think so. I'm, I'm still pretty

00:54:33.329 --> 00:54:35.409
sure we'll, we'll get over the line comfortably.

00:54:35.590 --> 00:54:39.369
So, time will tell. So, Krejci gets a second

00:54:39.369 --> 00:54:42.670
yellow for kicking the ball away, which now...

00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:45.519
If Cherki didn't get a yellow for it, why did

00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:48.300
Krejci get a yellow card for it, you know? We're

00:54:48.300 --> 00:54:51.500
talking about the standards of refereeing. That's

00:54:51.500 --> 00:54:53.320
a clear -cut example. And I figure he also got

00:54:53.320 --> 00:54:55.619
booked against us for kicking the ball away when

00:54:55.619 --> 00:54:59.059
Kolo Mahoney scored. Oh, I didn't see that, but

00:54:59.059 --> 00:55:03.320
okay. I'm just trying to point out that the standards

00:55:03.320 --> 00:55:06.219
of refereeing is not the same throughout the

00:55:06.219 --> 00:55:09.519
league, and it's a shame. Evan Gasson taps in

00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:12.780
a low cross and Palace win 1 -0. We were talking

00:55:12.780 --> 00:55:15.219
about whether he'll be a good signing for Palace

00:55:15.219 --> 00:55:19.559
based on... The early signs. No, not just what

00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:22.800
I've seen on the pitch. From Palace forums, just

00:55:22.800 --> 00:55:25.300
seeing what Palace fans have to say, they're

00:55:25.300 --> 00:55:27.780
really impressed by him. I mean, I guess with

00:55:27.780 --> 00:55:31.119
Crystal Palace, it's an awkward situation for

00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:33.440
them. It's just like, get to the end of the season

00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:37.210
and see where we are. because I think obviously

00:55:37.210 --> 00:55:40.010
they can't really build around the coach so they'll

00:55:40.010 --> 00:55:41.570
know where they are next season I don't think

00:55:41.570 --> 00:55:43.550
they're going to get relegated I think probably

00:55:43.550 --> 00:55:45.449
going to have a lot of games like that this season

00:55:45.449 --> 00:55:48.230
where they peter out 1 -0 not really much to

00:55:48.230 --> 00:55:51.969
play for I think yeah let's just I think from

00:55:51.969 --> 00:55:54.070
their perspective they have to judge players

00:55:54.070 --> 00:55:56.269
based on how they come in but I guess we'll only

00:55:56.269 --> 00:55:59.050
know how he'll fit into Crystal Palace when we

00:55:59.050 --> 00:56:01.449
know what the future of their coaching is going

00:56:01.449 --> 00:56:03.489
to be because then we'll... see if he adapts

00:56:03.489 --> 00:56:06.230
or fits into the ideology, you know. Well, he's

00:56:06.230 --> 00:56:08.250
just on loan, so I don't know if he'll be there.

00:56:08.710 --> 00:56:11.409
Oh, beyond the season. Yeah, I'm unsure about

00:56:11.409 --> 00:56:14.210
that. Or it might have been like a two -year

00:56:14.210 --> 00:56:16.210
loan. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. We'll

00:56:16.210 --> 00:56:20.530
see. Next is Sunderland 1, Fulham 3. This was

00:56:20.530 --> 00:56:24.750
another really shocking game. Because Sunderland

00:56:24.750 --> 00:56:26.670
have been so good at the stadium. They have the

00:56:26.670 --> 00:56:29.210
second -best home record in the league. Just

00:56:29.210 --> 00:56:33.719
their defense, especially. has been quite resolute

00:56:33.719 --> 00:56:37.000
so look watching them okay let's just get into

00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:39.579
the goals right jimenez scores from a corner

00:56:39.579 --> 00:56:42.840
and he was totally unmarked uh he was just left

00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:44.980
how do you leave the opposing center forward

00:56:44.980 --> 00:56:47.840
unmarked in your box uh from a corner that's

00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:51.219
just negligence uh not what i would have expected

00:56:51.219 --> 00:56:55.420
from rajee labrie uh you know who's been so good

00:56:55.420 --> 00:56:59.039
at defensive work then brian brobby brings down

00:56:59.039 --> 00:57:01.360
somebody in the area i don't know who it was

00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:03.280
i just watched the highlights so it was just

00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:06.840
a bit of a blur um jimenez scores the penalty

00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:11.400
i'd really i'm not a fan of his like run up of

00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:13.980
like you know oh jumping yeah jumping and like

00:57:13.980 --> 00:57:17.239
being like herky jerky and then i feel like it

00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:19.159
should be in one motion as soon as you start

00:57:19.159 --> 00:57:22.679
moving you can't the bruno fernandez yes the

00:57:22.679 --> 00:57:25.559
bruno fernandez uh you shouldn't be able to stop

00:57:25.559 --> 00:57:29.619
at all uh you know yeah it does i mean like it

00:57:29.619 --> 00:57:31.679
does put an unfair advantage in the hands of

00:57:31.679 --> 00:57:34.539
the attacker you know yes it's uh i don't like

00:57:34.539 --> 00:57:36.719
it at all because then by that if they're going

00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:38.539
to allow that in my opinion then they should

00:57:38.539 --> 00:57:41.599
allow the keeper to step off the line yes absolutely

00:57:41.599 --> 00:57:45.829
yeah uh then Enzo Le Fay also scores a penalty

00:57:45.829 --> 00:57:50.050
for Sunderland now. Somebody just got brought

00:57:50.050 --> 00:57:54.170
down in the box. Nothing to say. And then for

00:57:54.170 --> 00:57:56.130
the last thing, Iwobi scores on the counter.

00:57:56.849 --> 00:58:00.570
Very good goal from the left -hand side. Gets

00:58:00.570 --> 00:58:04.050
it across the keeper and 3 -1. I'm happy for

00:58:04.050 --> 00:58:07.400
Alex Iwobi. Yeah, that's it. That's pretty much

00:58:07.400 --> 00:58:10.199
it. I mean, a surprise result, but I think both

00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:12.340
those teams, again, I think I'd put them in the

00:58:12.340 --> 00:58:15.119
same boat as Crystal Palace. They're seeing the

00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:17.840
season out for them. I think players also have

00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:20.219
the World Cup in their mind, so we're going to

00:58:20.219 --> 00:58:22.019
get a lot of chaotic games, I think, until the

00:58:22.019 --> 00:58:25.070
end of the season. Do you have anything else

00:58:25.070 --> 00:58:27.090
you want to say about this game or just any other

00:58:27.090 --> 00:58:29.909
game before we wrap up? Nothing that comes to

00:58:29.909 --> 00:58:33.389
mind specifically. I mean, again, just a player

00:58:33.389 --> 00:58:36.210
that impressed me with his movement. I say it

00:58:36.210 --> 00:58:38.030
all the time, but it's Val Pedro. I think Chelsea

00:58:38.030 --> 00:58:40.130
didn't find him enough. He made a lot of good

00:58:40.130 --> 00:58:43.820
runs, I think. Chelsea's midfield, again, needs

00:58:43.820 --> 00:58:46.340
to be more like... Again, Caicedo made an exceptional

00:58:46.340 --> 00:58:49.079
pass. I think he has the range. He needs to be

00:58:49.079 --> 00:58:52.099
more, I guess, assured in his decision -making.

00:58:52.139 --> 00:58:54.460
If he uses that range better, I think Chelsea

00:58:54.460 --> 00:58:57.280
can come on a lot of levels and probably very

00:58:57.280 --> 00:58:59.719
soon be challenging for a title, especially with

00:58:59.719 --> 00:59:03.300
Enzo, Caicedo and Val Pedro. I think those three

00:59:03.300 --> 00:59:05.659
players can get into any team in the league almost.

00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:08.760
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