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And welcome back to the PD Football Podcast.

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My name is Presh. My name is Darren. And how

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are you doing today? I'm good, I'm good. Feeling

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more energetic, strangely enough, than a usual

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day after work. But yeah, I guess hopefully it

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continues throughout the week. What about you?

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How are you doing? I've been listening to the

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audiobook of The Godfather. One of the best movies

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ever made, but this book kind of fleshes out

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things that the movie didn't have time for. So

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it's a little bit more interesting to get into

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the minds of the characters. So how have you

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found books as a medium, just generally? Do you

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enjoy it? I'm not a big reader, so that's why...

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Or audiobooks? Well, I haven't listened to audiobooks

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often. So this was just a... Like, it came out

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my... youtube algorithm so i just tried it out

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and uh but it's not really the same when you've

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watched the movie first right i think it helps

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because i have a idea in my mind uh of what things

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are supposed to look like some people would say

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that you the whole like for me the fun of it

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is forming your own ideas of what something should

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look like but that's fine but for me it's the

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other way around i uh um sometimes i just can't

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picture what A thing would look like. Yeah. Not

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always, but, you know, just sometimes I'm just

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like, huh, I wonder what that would look like.

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And then, you know, I might get stuck upon that.

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But, yeah, listening to an audiobook I've already

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seen the movie of is very interesting. So with

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that in mind, last night I started the Dune audiobook.

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oh nice uh dune i'm gonna finish it tonight probably

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but uh dune is a very big thing in the sci -fi

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community so i love the movies so um you know

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check out the audiobook as well yeah i've heard

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a lot of good things about the movie i didn't

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know it was a book to be honest i read a lot

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but not sci -fi so i might check it out though

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dune is a very well respected book from like

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the 60s it was made in response to lawrence of

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arabia i don't know if you've seen that I've

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heard, I've read a story about Lawrence of Arabia,

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but I've never watched the movie, no. Okay, well,

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Dune is written as a fictionalized version of

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Lawrence of Arabia set in the future. It's very

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interesting. Listening to the audiobook, I'm

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not a fan of the prose. The way he writes things

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is not very interesting, but the themes and the

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ideas, that's what's interesting to me. Yeah,

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I mean, I guess it depends what you like, you

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know. A lot of people read for themes and ideas.

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All right, well, so getting back to the podcast,

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what I want to do here today is cover a few Champions

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League games and then go to Wolves versus Arsenal.

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So just like the FA Cup games last week, there's

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just far too many to mention. So we're just going

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to focus on a few key ones, if that's all right.

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Yeah, I'm okay with that. So the first one I

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want to mention is the early game on Tuesday,

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which was Galatasaray versus Juventus. Did you

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see this? I watched like half of it. I mean,

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my man Spalletti has gone down, unfortunately.

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Well, there's still a second leg. There's still

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a second leg. It's difficult, but it's not...

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Undoable. Crazy atmosphere though, Galatasaray.

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Wow. I would be scared to play at one of those

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grounds with the chanting and they have these

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big drums. It feels like they're right on you.

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I feel like anyone's going to struggle there.

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The real cauldron. Yeah, exactly. It feels like

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a bit of an old school football stadium in a

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lot of ways. Old school San Siro type of vibe.

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You really fear entering there. I mean, obviously,

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hopefully, Galatasaray can go deep. It would

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be nice as a neutral to see them go deep in the

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competition. I would still prefer Spalletti to

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get through, though. Well, I would say, first

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of all, Galatasaray's goals, all of them came

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from poor defending. So it's not like Galatasaray

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themselves were really incredible or special.

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It was more Juventus shooting themselves in the

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foot over and over again. And I think the atmosphere

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intimidated the players. They started making

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a lot of... Yeah, that could be a factor. It

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is. Yeah, so for the first goal, there was a

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horrible mix -up at the back by Juventus, which

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allowed Gabriel Serra to neatly finish off. Did

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you see that? Yeah, I did. What did you think?

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I mean, like you said, it was just poor defending,

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misplaced pass. I don't think there was much

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more to add. I just think it's very naive. But

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I mean, that's the thing you get with Spalletti

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teams in the initial period, I think. It depends

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where they're transitioning from. I wouldn't

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know much. Like, I did like Thiago Mota as a

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coach, but I do think Thiago Mota is very much...

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He's of a different school of thought to Spalletti.

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So the stakes building up are going to be normal,

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I would say, at the stage of the project. I feel

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like Klopp or Guardiola should go to Juventus.

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They're like a sleeping giant waiting to be woken

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up, it feels like. I think that could be the

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case, but, you know. Especially Guardiola, because

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he's like, you know, that's the one league he

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hasn't done it in of the top four leagues. I

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wonder, I mean, if there's anywhere he would

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go in Italy, I think only Juventus or Inter Milan

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would be able to afford him. That's true. so

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cambiaso the left back for juventus had a really

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poor game defensively but going forward he he

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beat his man and he put in a really nice chip

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which kalulu hit directly at the keeper and coop

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minor scored the rebound so even though it was

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uh two other players that uh you know were more

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involved i would put it on uh cambiaso as the

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one who created that goal Because he did quite

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a lot for the work. Yeah, I would agree. I mean,

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I think sometimes the assist is better than the

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goal. I guess that was one of those instances.

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Yeah, it wasn't even the assist. It was the pass

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before the assist. But yeah, I will say, like

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I said, he had a horrible game defensively. And

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he got a yellow card in the first half. I'm getting

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a little bit ahead of myself. Still in the first

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half, Koopmeijner scores his second. And it was

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an absolute banger. After some neat play in the

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midfield with Weston McKinney, who played as

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a false nine, Koopmeijner's squad is like a long

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-range shot that just... You know when it hits

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the top of the bar and goes in? The posted stamp.

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Yes, very nice. Not a posted stamp. Like it hits

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the bar and goes down. Oh, like the Zidane penalty.

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I think I clocked out of the game around the

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time it was equal. So it was 2 -1 going at halftime,

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I believe. Okay, I didn't note that in my notes.

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But I think it was 2 -1 at halftime. And Juventus

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were looking good. I really liked Weston McKinney

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at false nine. I believe he played for Leeds

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or something, right? Yeah, he was at Leeds before.

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And I didn't think much of him. I think I only

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saw him play once or twice. I don't know if he

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played much at Leeds. I don't watch Leeds much

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anyway. Yeah, well, when they were in the Premier

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League, I watched him a few times and I thought,

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oh, this guy sucks. So to see him being a useful

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part of a team, it's very good to see that when

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a coach can see something us laymen can't see.

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Spalletti, head of the game. yeah let's hope

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I mean I would like obviously I would agree with

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what you're saying about Guardiola but if you

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can't get Guardiola I think I would go for Spalletti

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so I think Juventus are in a good place to build

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either way and I think there'll be a lot more

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western McKennies coming along in Spalletti's

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system I mean we've seen that he's done it before

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you know he's helped players too I guess, find

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a level that they haven't been able to find in

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other systems or other leagues, other coaches,

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under other coaches. Even Messi needed Guardiola

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to kind of kick -start his career. I read, let

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me not say that, I listened to an audiobook a

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while back. There's a book about Messi and his,

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like, trajectory from La Masia through, you know,

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his career. This was written about, like, maybe

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five years ago still so it didn't cover the you

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know the world cup and that kind of part of his

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career but like his progression he was like a

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very talented player and then guardiola is the

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one who like supercharged him and turned him

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into you know the greatest ever unstoppable yeah

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so uh on a slightly lower uh standard i would

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say sterling as well sterling was just like a

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talented winger he wasn't anything special and

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then he gets under guardiola and he scores like

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he has like a 20 goal 20 assist season i mean

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excuse me 20 goal 10 goal assists yeah season

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20 goal 10 assists yes thank you yeah so Why

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did we bring that up? Why are we talking about

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Guardiola? No, I mean, we're talking about coaches

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can find, I guess, hidden qualities in a player.

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Yes, that's true. So then Galatasaray equalized

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to Noah Lang when he scored a rebound after Yilmaz

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shot. So I'm not going to mention Yilmaz again,

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but he was the chief destroyer of Juventus. He

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didn't get his name on the... he didn't score

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yeah he didn't score uh he did uh i guess there's

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a rebound and assist yeah yeah so he got the

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assist for uh noah lang but uh he didn't get

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his name on the sheet but he was very good he

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was very good i mean he looks like a very uh

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A very good winger prospect. I think he's like

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25 or 24. I mean, that's the first time I've

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seen him play. I don't know much about Turkish

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players or the Turkish league, but he was very

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entertaining. He reminded me a bit of Alexis

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Sanchez when he used to play for Arsenal. So

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let's hope, I don't know if he'll get the opportunity

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at a bigger club, but a lot of his fundamentals

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seem like it can be translated into him being

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a top winger. I mean, one game is a lot to...

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There's not much you can ascertain from one game,

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but I like those sorts of wingers, at least from

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what I saw in that first half. All right. Then

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Galichastra get another free kick, which Gabriel

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Sara takes, and he delivers a wicked delivery

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in, which Davidson Sanchez, former Spurs player,

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tucks in neatly. Champions League finalist. Was

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he there at the time? Yeah, he was. Oh, I don't

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recall that. I thought he came like the year

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after, but all right. Maybe not. Yeah, Davinson

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Sanchez scores. And yeah, I can only speak much

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more about the delivery. His header was bad,

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was all right. But the delivery, really fantastic

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stuff from Sarah. Yes, then Spalletti brings

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on Cabal because, like I said, Cambiasso is having

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an awful game at left back. Cabal. gets two yellow

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cards within, like, five to ten minutes of each

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other because he was also getting rinsed. And,

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yeah, so now they're down to ten men. And still,

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at ten men, 4 -2 down, they're passing the ball

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around at the back. Very silly thing to do. Build

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-up mistakes. I mean, that's what you get with

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Spalletti. It's not a build -up mistake. They

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weren't building up. Like, they were just passing

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it around at the back. And they didn't realize

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Osman was there. I think it's more like a confusion

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of how to play the system. I think, but like

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again, I think Spalletti and Dezerbi have the

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same problems. They both are going to heavily

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persist with the, even if the players don't interpret

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or read the situation, that they must keep the

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ball when they're building up. And I think a

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lot of times it can look like that. It just depends

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what you want. For me, I like Spalletti's football.

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So I would bear the low moments. To go through

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the highs when they eventually come, you know.

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Alright, well then Osterman catches them off

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guard while passing around at the back. And he

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passes it to Noah Lang who scores his second.

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What do you think of Noah Lang? At one stage

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he was one of the hottest winger prospects in

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Europe. And now it doesn't seem like he's...

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Well, this is the only game I've ever watched

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him in. So, like you said, you can't ascertain

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a lot from a single game. But he looked decent.

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But did he look decent because Juventus were

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bad? Did he look decent because he's an excellent

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player? I don't know. I guess that's what I'm

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trying to say. I've watched him a few times.

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Every time I watched him, he seemed really good.

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So I've wondered what is it that's made big clubs

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be hesitant towards getting him. So yeah, that's

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really all I have to say about Galatasaray event.

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I wanted to go through the individual moments.

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Just talk about Spalletti's naivete and that's

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about it. Anything else you want to mention about

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this game? No, nothing. I think you've mentioned

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everything. Long live Spalletti's naivete for

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me. All right. The second game of the night later

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on was Benfica versus Real Madrid. This was the

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second game back for Trent Alexander -Arnold.

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He's been injured. He had two separate hamstring

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injuries which have hampered his season. Valverde

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back in midfield. Albeloa played a 4 -4 -2 with

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a diamond in midfield. Choumeny at the base of

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the diamond. Valverde on the right, Kamavinga

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on the left. And Ardegule in the 10. And then...

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Mbappe and Vinicius as the two up front. The

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two up front had very, very little defensive

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work to do. Whether that's Oblo's instruction

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or they're just lazy, unclear. Perhaps a combination

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of both. Yes, so early, all the play early doors

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was coming from Benfica. Yeah, I do. I remember

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the start of the game was pretty... Their midfield,

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I forget that guy's name. He's Norwegian. oh

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yes I also forgot his name I didn't write it

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down but he was like having an excellent game

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right and Benfica's wingers were really giving

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Trent and Carrera's problems speaking about Trent

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like going into the game defensively I think

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he had a bad game they weren't punished for it

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but Valverde had to basically hold his hand for

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a number of situations the majority of the game

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yes where like he got beat and then Valverde

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was there to bail him out so just a really poor

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performance that way but going forward he had

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a few really nice touches and yeah some of his

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passes like in in the context of Real Madrid

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being like a very transition based club I think

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going forward he might be the perfect player

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for them especially Vinicius and Mbappe so we'll

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see we'll see what's the the risk factor given

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that Like you said, he tends to struggle defensively.

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It's how much can you accommodate it. In terms

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of him going up the pitch, I still think he's

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one of the best players in the world in attack.

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So I would take the sacrifice and put him in

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the team because I don't think Madrid have a

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more creative player right now. It's all fun

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and games playing like Levante and them, right?

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But in the Champions League against Bayern Munich.

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uh when Luis Diaz is rinsing him are you gonna

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be like oh it's fine his defensive uh liabilities

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are fine you know that's the times it's like

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you have to you have to like how many right backs

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are gonna be able to stop or on form Luis Diaz

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I think if someone manages well if this guy's

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the best in the world yeah but I think he's the

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best in the world because of what he contributes

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to the team it's like was Danny Alves the best

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defensive right back in the world I don't think

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so. What is the job of a defender? I mean, it

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depends how you look at it. It's like if your

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right back or your full backs are your creative

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outlet, then I'd say Trent is one of the best

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in the world. But you still have to do the defensive

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work. It's not one or the other. But if you have

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a player like Valverde who's willing to cover

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for him, it makes sense to let him create. I

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think for me... He's the type of player that

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can create something from nothing. So I think

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he's one of the best players in the world going

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forward. And I would platform his creative ability.

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I would platform that above his defensive problems.

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I would agree with you in terms of Liverpool,

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where we have somebody like Jordan Henderson,

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who's a useless player and adds nothing. Valverde

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can actually contribute to the attack and does

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a lot more work off the ball. Yeah, but it's

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give and take. It's like in the same team as

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De Bruyne, some players will have to play a deeper

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role, some players will have to sacrifice what

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they prefer doing, someone like David Silva.

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Well, I disagree with that. David Silva had still

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played quite high, still played... Yeah, he played

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decently, but I think he was more facilitated

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around controlling the game. He was not really

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allowed to take the risky passes that De Bruyne

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made. That was all centered around, hey, this

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is our creative outlet because he's on point

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with his delivery. I think it's the same thing

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with Trent. If Real Madrid had a better creative

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player, which is practically impossible unless

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they got Prime De Bruyne back right now, in my

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opinion, then it makes sense to play for him.

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There's no better creator in the world than Trent.

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For me, there's no one that generates play better

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than Trent. Bruno Fernandes. I don't think so.

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Not all over the park. Maybe in the final third,

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but Trent can generate play from anywhere, in

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any game state, I think. All right, we're just

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going to have to disagree about that. Trent is

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the closest to KDB or Messi for me in terms of

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his passing range. Wow. All I hope is for failure

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for this guy, if I'm being honest with you. That's

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bias. It's not bias. He's a bum. He's a snake.

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Every football fan loves him outside of Liverpool

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fans. It is what it is. Every football fan hated

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him outside of Liverpool fans until he moved.

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Yeah, because now we can acknowledge his quality.

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There we go. And there we have it. Listeners,

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there we have it. There we have it. I didn't

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hate him though. I always thought he was the

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best. So the main thing I was thinking is Madrid

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lack a controller in midfield. They kept losing

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the ball and they struggled with the build -up

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in the middle part of the park. That's what I

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really feel. That's not anything new. Everybody

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has known that since Kroos left. They don't have

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that kind of... metronome who's going to keep

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the ball ticking over so yeah uh the next thing

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i want to say is madrid was sitting deep to counter

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which is a very cowardly tactic in my opinion

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you can say whatever you want about that uh madrid

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are a big team they should be generating play

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they're the ones who should be looking to create

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the space not just sitting back and countering

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that's very like i said cowardly so like in the

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last 10 minutes of the half madrid started applying

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a little bit of pressure to the game because

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they were just sitting off the whole time. And

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in the last five minutes of the first half, the

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Benfica midfield looked gassed. They were totally

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finished. They were struggling. And they just

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made it into halftime at 0 -0. So Jose could,

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you know, refresh, give them some new instructions,

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etc. So, yeah, I think more so... their conditioning

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let them down more than effort and like technique

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and those kinds of things yeah I agree I mean

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I think I guess it was also like the physical

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level of I generally think when when I've if

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I've noticed anything of playing like Portuguese

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teams it's the the intensity is one thing generally

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any team can take advantage of I think even like

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PSG maybe Sporting got the better of Man City

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last season and I mean it was like it was a much

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it was like a perfect game for them every chance

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they had came off so I think there is a definite

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like difference in intensity level I think between

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like I would say even a club like I think a lot

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of the Portuguese I guess success compared to

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like maybe someone like Marseille who are able

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to generate more play against better opponents

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is probably due to the the inclination towards

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like keeping clean feet, but I think obviously

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if you can overrun them physically, I think they

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really don't offer much benefit in terms of the

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top level of the Champions League. In the second

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half, Madrid continue where they left off and

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they're just applying more pressure. This is

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the type of football we want to see. Instead

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of them sitting off, we want to see front foot

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football from them. And this pays off with Vinicius

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scoring a beautiful goal. uh incredible curler

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from like the i i don't know if it was just outside

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the box or just inside but you know that incredible

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typical venetia score in a way but uh incredible

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nonetheless yeah so from this venice starts celebrating

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he does a little dance at the corner flag and

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the benfica fans do not like this they really

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get frustrated and one of the benfica players

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goes over and says something and there's like

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a big clash that the referee gives a yellow card

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to venusius for inciting the crowd i assume a

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little bit like two minutes later uh a player

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his name is prestiani says something to him behind

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his shirt so basically he lifted his shirt up

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so you can't see his lips moving And he said

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something to Vinicius. Vinicius then goes to

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the referee and the referee stops the game. Now,

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apparently this was due to a racist incident.

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Prestiani said something to him racist. That

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was racist, which really upset Vinicius and they

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had to stop the game. Afterwards, Prestiani has

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come out and said that he didn't say anything

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racist. He's lying. He said he called him the

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F word. Which, not fuck, you know the one. Which

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is like, yeah, I'm not a racist. I'm a homophobe,

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how dare you? Which, I'm like, that's not gonna,

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that, what's it called, defense is not very well

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thought out, in my opinion. Yeah, I mean, I wish

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the worst for him in his career, Prestiani. Hopefully,

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we find him playing out his days in the lower

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leagues. Well, I have no evidence. None of the

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other Real Madrid players that were close to

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Vinicius reacted in the same way, so it's possible

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Vinicius... Mbappe did react? No, no, no. At

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the moment. So, Presciani says something, Vinicius

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is the only one who reacts and goes to the referee.

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After the fact, Mbappe says something to him.

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But I'm saying in that very moment, Kamavinga,

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Mbappe and Vinicius were all around him. And

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Vinicius is the only one who reacted. So it's

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possible he misheard. I doubt it. I don't want

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to say Vinicius is lying or whatever. I'm trying

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to give, what's the word, options about what

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happened. I think Cristiano was guilty, so that's

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just my opinion. I don't want to make him seem

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like the good guy or say I'm waiting for his

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opinion or all the facts to come out. He knows

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what he did. Hopefully he gets his career taken

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away from him. That's what I hope. Maybe he gets

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a long -term injury. Maybe he gets in a car accident

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and loses his ability to walk. But I wish the

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worst for him. There's no need for that. We can

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agree to disagree. Trent deserves the worst,

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not this poor guy. No. This poor guy, any racist,

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deserves the worst. Luis Torres also deserved

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the worst, you know, so he didn't get it though.

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But you loved it when he scored those goals for

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your club. No, I didn't. I didn't actually support

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the MSN because of him. You can ask my brother.

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No, whatever, bro. To each their own. What else

00:24:23.180 --> 00:24:25.660
did you think about this game? Nothing, I just

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was angry at Cristiano by the end of it. Because

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similarly, the racism incident kind of killed

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the game. Both teams weren't really doing anything.

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Benfica were totally gassed. Madrid, they...

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In fact, they didn't take advantage of that situation,

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which they should have. It felt like both teams

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had their air pulled out of the... The game.

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I don't know how to. And, yeah, based on his

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comments after the game, I no longer like Jose

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Mourinho. What did Jose Mourinho say? Sorry,

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I missed this. He said that, why does this keep

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happening to Vinicius? Maybe it's something wrong

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with the player. So, for me, that sounds like

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he's... Victim blaming. He's victim blaming.

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So, I used to like him. I've lost a lot of respect

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for him now, and I hope he keeps failing as he

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has in his last couple of drops. All right. Let's

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play devil's advocate. Why do you think it keeps

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happening to Vinicius? It doesn't justify it,

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even if he's an annoying player. No, I'm not

00:25:22.430 --> 00:25:23.890
justifying it. I'm asking a question. There have

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been many players who've been antagonistic. And

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I think Thierry Henry, Vinicius, you can count

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the players who've got this sort of treatment

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and they're almost always black. All right. Anyway,

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anything else you want to say about this game?

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Fuck Jose Mourinho. All right. Let's move on

00:25:39.069 --> 00:25:43.049
to Wolves 2 Arsenal 2. So this is the big talking

00:25:43.049 --> 00:25:46.970
point of the... Or the big game of the week because

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there's no other Premier League games. This was

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due to a rescheduling because of the Carabao

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Cup. This game has been shifted to this time

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slot. So yeah, Arsenal set up in their usual

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4 -3 -3 and made two changes to the team that

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drew with Brentford last week. I do understand

00:26:07.410 --> 00:26:10.930
they had an FA Cup game as well in the middle

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that like... Against Wigan. Yeah, that was a

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totally different team. I'm just comparing it

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to last week with the Brentford game. Saliba

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came in for Mosquera, and Martinelli came in

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for Trossard, and Saka came in for Eze. Those

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were the three changes from Arsenal. Wolves set

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up in a 3 -4 -3 with Arokodare replaced by Bellegarde,

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Jao Gomez out for Andre, and Chachua in for Rodrigo

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Gomez. Wolves get off to the worst possible start

00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:45.799
as Matthias Mane is ball watching and Saka goes

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in to score the goal. But for me, the real story

00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:52.259
is the excellent cross by Rice. Yeah. I mean,

00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:54.599
I discussed that last week. Like, I think right

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now, for me, he's carrying us a lot. But we will

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discuss it. You can introduce the goals and stuff

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and then I'll give my opinions on. Okay. I would

00:27:02.539 --> 00:27:04.960
say in the first half, the two, like, really

00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:08.380
big culprits for Arsenal were Martinelli for

00:27:08.380 --> 00:27:10.859
not controlling the ball properly and Jokeres

00:27:10.859 --> 00:27:13.359
for not making the correct runs. They killed

00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:16.039
so many attacks for Arsenal. It was all one -way

00:27:16.039 --> 00:27:18.980
traffic in terms of the play. And the two of

00:27:18.980 --> 00:27:21.579
them, they killed off all the attacks that, you

00:27:21.579 --> 00:27:23.839
know, like Saka might play one of them in, but

00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:25.980
then they... take the wrong touch or something

00:27:25.980 --> 00:27:28.460
like that. I just really thought Martinelli and

00:27:28.460 --> 00:27:31.380
Jokeres were very, very poor. Yeah, that was

00:27:31.380 --> 00:27:34.960
probably Martinelli's worst game in an Arsenal

00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:37.980
shirt for a long time. I would say since the

00:27:37.980 --> 00:27:42.160
days we first signed him, he seemed a bit like

00:27:42.160 --> 00:27:44.880
making a lot of petulant mistakes. I don't know

00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:46.960
if he was overthinking everything. Maybe he was

00:27:46.960 --> 00:27:49.769
feeling the pressure from Chassard. playing,

00:27:49.910 --> 00:27:52.170
I mean, Trussout's probably been our best attacking

00:27:52.170 --> 00:27:54.910
player, at least in terms of creativity and end

00:27:54.910 --> 00:27:57.549
product in the last couple of months. So I guess,

00:27:57.569 --> 00:28:00.109
I don't know what it was, but the threat that

00:28:00.109 --> 00:28:02.829
Martinelli usually has didn't feel like it was

00:28:02.829 --> 00:28:05.220
there. I don't feel like he was linking play

00:28:05.220 --> 00:28:07.079
as well. I don't feel like he was providing an

00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:09.299
option behind. I feel like he was running to

00:28:09.299 --> 00:28:12.160
the ball a lot, which is not something he's good

00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:14.319
at or usually does. But I think maybe having

00:28:14.319 --> 00:28:16.599
Saka in the middle was a bit confusing. Although

00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:18.740
I really liked Saka in the middle, which for

00:28:18.740 --> 00:28:21.859
me, this means the main thing I'm asking for

00:28:21.859 --> 00:28:24.380
is Eze on the left. That's what I want. I think

00:28:24.380 --> 00:28:27.400
Saka or Eze on the left, but preferably Eze because...

00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:30.019
The way Saka played the 10 position for me, especially

00:28:30.019 --> 00:28:32.599
out of possession as well, was really good for

00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:35.759
the first half. Yeah. So they conceded early

00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:38.019
and you would think Wolves would have, you know...

00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:41.880
conceded more but they stayed resolute and weathered

00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:44.180
the storm then in the last 10 minutes of the

00:28:44.180 --> 00:28:46.819
first half they start to express themselves a

00:28:46.819 --> 00:28:49.640
little bit uh they didn't do too much i don't

00:28:49.640 --> 00:28:51.440
even think they got a shot on target but it's

00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:53.660
just getting some good position getting some

00:28:53.660 --> 00:28:55.980
time on the ball you know giving the players

00:28:55.980 --> 00:28:59.799
a bit to breathe you know uh they just got some

00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:01.799
time on the wall and that's how the first half

00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:04.740
ends um in the second half wolves come out playing

00:29:04.740 --> 00:29:07.369
some good football Now they're actually applying

00:29:07.369 --> 00:29:10.589
some good pressure to the Arsenal defence and

00:29:10.589 --> 00:29:14.049
holding the ball up a little bit. Arakadare is

00:29:14.049 --> 00:29:16.589
especially making a nuisance of himself and winning

00:29:16.589 --> 00:29:19.130
some half chances. And I mean, Martinelli's still

00:29:19.130 --> 00:29:24.059
giving the ball away a lot. You're speaking about

00:29:24.059 --> 00:29:25.859
giving the ball away, but I would also mention

00:29:25.859 --> 00:29:28.400
that when Trossard came on, he also gave the

00:29:28.400 --> 00:29:32.220
ball away. Not that one was better than the other,

00:29:32.259 --> 00:29:36.059
but I'm saying it was just a bit uncharacteristic

00:29:36.059 --> 00:29:38.680
of the way Martinelli was playing. I guess it

00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:40.299
seemed like he was trying to play a bit like

00:29:40.299 --> 00:29:42.579
Trossard. When Trossard came on, I think he just

00:29:42.579 --> 00:29:45.920
had a bad game. But I think Martinelli was trying

00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:49.250
to maybe... play the position in a similar way

00:29:49.250 --> 00:29:51.170
to Trossard and I don't think it works for him.

00:29:51.289 --> 00:29:53.890
Then Hinkapie scores a goal against the run of

00:29:53.890 --> 00:29:56.650
play. Gabriel breaking the lines to get Hinkapie

00:29:56.650 --> 00:29:59.549
in. Great pass by Gabriel. We need to see more

00:29:59.549 --> 00:30:02.769
of that. The thing is, Gabriel is a centre -back.

00:30:02.970 --> 00:30:05.809
It should be Zubamendi or Rice with these deep

00:30:05.809 --> 00:30:08.490
line -breaking passes. In fact, if I'm not mistaken,

00:30:08.549 --> 00:30:11.829
I believe Zubamendi was bought to do these line

00:30:11.829 --> 00:30:14.529
-breaking passes. That's what he was good at.

00:30:15.609 --> 00:30:17.950
I mean, the assumption was that he was going

00:30:17.950 --> 00:30:21.750
to be like Thomas Partey. We shouldn't mention

00:30:21.750 --> 00:30:23.910
him now, but of course, Thomas Partey, that's

00:30:23.910 --> 00:30:26.509
better out of possession. The player, not the

00:30:26.509 --> 00:30:28.829
person. Not the person. That's better out of

00:30:28.829 --> 00:30:31.369
possession. Because I think the one... I don't

00:30:31.369 --> 00:30:33.250
know why he hasn't been playing it the same way,

00:30:33.269 --> 00:30:35.970
but I think... Thomas Partey, the one thing he

00:30:35.970 --> 00:30:38.730
gave us when he did play was constantly playing

00:30:38.730 --> 00:30:40.509
through the lines, constantly playing forward.

00:30:41.470 --> 00:30:44.809
I mean, if there's anything I would say, I think

00:30:44.809 --> 00:30:47.650
it's not something that comes naturally to Rice.

00:30:48.410 --> 00:30:50.490
He's never been good at line -breaking passes.

00:30:50.529 --> 00:30:52.329
That's always been the one critique of his game.

00:30:52.490 --> 00:30:54.829
But I will give him credit for trying, for taking

00:30:54.829 --> 00:30:57.210
it on. I think he's at least stepping out of

00:30:57.210 --> 00:31:00.789
his comfort zone. Zubamendi, Odegaard, a lot

00:31:00.789 --> 00:31:02.450
of players are playing within their comfort zone,

00:31:02.569 --> 00:31:04.829
which leaves a lot of responsibility to Rice.

00:31:04.950 --> 00:31:07.490
I think right now he's carrying us. I think he

00:31:07.490 --> 00:31:10.630
would have lost the last two, possibly. lost

00:31:10.630 --> 00:31:13.029
maybe three of the last five games if it wasn't

00:31:13.029 --> 00:31:15.809
for like Rice especially defensively and being

00:31:15.809 --> 00:31:18.349
able to break the press a lot a lot of times

00:31:18.349 --> 00:31:19.970
it feels like he's doing the midfield job on

00:31:19.970 --> 00:31:22.910
his own right now so it's not a good sign going

00:31:22.910 --> 00:31:25.089
forward especially with Man City looking as good

00:31:25.089 --> 00:31:27.470
as they are so despite the goal Wolves' momentum

00:31:27.470 --> 00:31:30.829
continues and Hugo Bueno scores a wonder goal

00:31:30.829 --> 00:31:35.410
now similar to the Vinicius goal not really but

00:31:36.059 --> 00:31:38.900
I kind of see what you're saying, but in that

00:31:38.900 --> 00:31:42.500
they're both long range. But for this one, I

00:31:42.500 --> 00:31:44.660
would say Raya could have done better, in my

00:31:44.660 --> 00:31:47.240
opinion. I think his positioning for it was...

00:31:47.240 --> 00:31:49.819
Raya keeps getting caught a little bit forward.

00:31:50.140 --> 00:31:52.059
This has happened a few times in our way. He's

00:31:52.059 --> 00:31:54.480
been chipped. This time it wasn't a chip, but

00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:59.220
because he was so far forward, Hugo Bueno was

00:31:59.220 --> 00:32:03.279
able to finish in this way, I think. Yeah, I

00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:04.980
mean, I think we've probably had the most amount

00:32:04.980 --> 00:32:08.140
of... I think I saw a stat that said Arsenal

00:32:08.140 --> 00:32:13.039
have had the highest amount of low XG goals conceded

00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:16.160
against them in the Premier League. So it could

00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:18.140
be something related to Raya's positioning. But

00:32:18.140 --> 00:32:21.380
again, I think it's a give and take because he's

00:32:21.380 --> 00:32:24.720
like comfortably, I think, the best at claiming

00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:26.880
crosses, which start a lot of quick transitions

00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:29.680
for us. So I think that is due to his positioning

00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:32.720
as well. So if you take that away, I think maybe

00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:35.480
the main thing would be like... getting the ball

00:32:35.480 --> 00:32:38.019
or getting like attackers that could could read

00:32:38.019 --> 00:32:40.200
that it's a give and take it's very similar to

00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:43.000
edison i wouldn't say raya is the complete keeper

00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:45.619
like allison but i'd say that if you could play

00:32:45.619 --> 00:32:47.500
to his strengths or get a team that could play

00:32:47.500 --> 00:32:50.019
to his strengths it's okay you know the teams

00:32:50.019 --> 00:32:51.700
aren't always going to score wonder goals you

00:32:51.700 --> 00:32:54.180
know it's not a big i think it's more important

00:32:54.180 --> 00:32:56.400
for his positioning in terms of claiming crosses

00:32:56.400 --> 00:32:59.480
and being able to play the ball out quickly another

00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:02.980
thing i was kind of shocked at uh not shocked

00:33:02.980 --> 00:33:06.809
just more like frustrated with as a neutral watching

00:33:06.809 --> 00:33:09.470
the game is that Arsenal kept hoofing the ball,

00:33:09.670 --> 00:33:12.269
right? They would just kick it up the field instead

00:33:12.269 --> 00:33:14.369
of, like, trying to find a person, trying to,

00:33:14.430 --> 00:33:16.390
you know... That's what I was saying. Rice was

00:33:16.390 --> 00:33:18.230
the only one who was trying to generate play,

00:33:18.289 --> 00:33:20.029
who was breaking the press. Everyone else seemed

00:33:20.029 --> 00:33:22.769
to try to bypass midfield. I don't know if maybe,

00:33:22.930 --> 00:33:25.029
like, Zubamendi's playing with a lack of confidence

00:33:25.029 --> 00:33:28.349
that's, like, seeping into the two centre -halves

00:33:28.349 --> 00:33:30.730
as well because they're usually so short of themselves.

00:33:30.910 --> 00:33:34.140
I've never seen... I think the last time I saw

00:33:34.140 --> 00:33:36.180
Saliba make that many mistakes in the game was

00:33:36.180 --> 00:33:39.940
probably when we first signed him. It was a strange

00:33:39.940 --> 00:33:43.119
game in a lot of ways, honestly. Yeah, just those

00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:47.180
long balls just led to too many turnovers for

00:33:47.180 --> 00:33:49.180
Arsenal. They really struggled to keep the ball.

00:33:49.539 --> 00:33:51.779
And Wolves kind of overpowered us physically

00:33:51.779 --> 00:33:54.519
the longer the game went on. Because I would

00:33:54.519 --> 00:33:57.039
say certain players looked gassed, like Zubamendi

00:33:57.039 --> 00:33:59.279
and Timber. Those were the two that really...

00:34:00.009 --> 00:34:03.470
for me looked like really tired i think ben white

00:34:03.470 --> 00:34:06.349
picked up an injury in the fa cup warm -up otherwise

00:34:06.349 --> 00:34:08.269
i think he would have been starting a few games

00:34:08.269 --> 00:34:11.269
now uh but is there no one else that can cover

00:34:11.269 --> 00:34:14.650
right back Califuri got into it I think in that

00:34:14.650 --> 00:34:16.929
warm up before I'm not sure if it was the last

00:34:16.929 --> 00:34:19.949
game or this game but I'm not sure he probably

00:34:19.949 --> 00:34:23.010
has a I wouldn't say I don't know about Myles

00:34:23.010 --> 00:34:25.530
on the right I think Myles would get he's struggling

00:34:25.530 --> 00:34:27.769
a bit defensively recently so I think that's

00:34:27.769 --> 00:34:30.070
why he hasn't gotten a team I was just wondering

00:34:31.130 --> 00:34:33.030
Because I assume Ben White would be the person,

00:34:33.090 --> 00:34:35.269
but now that you're telling me Ben White was

00:34:35.269 --> 00:34:40.650
unavailable, it's a shame that Arsenal don't

00:34:40.650 --> 00:34:43.809
have anyone to come on for Timber. But I would

00:34:43.809 --> 00:34:46.849
say for midfield, there's no such excuse because

00:34:46.849 --> 00:34:51.550
they have Norgard. Yeah, we could have. I mean,

00:34:51.570 --> 00:34:55.449
he did play well in the FA Cup. That being said...

00:34:55.670 --> 00:34:57.690
I wouldn't have played Norgaard because that's

00:34:57.690 --> 00:35:00.190
not what the game called for. Norgaard is a defensive

00:35:00.190 --> 00:35:02.610
midfielder, right? Yeah. So I would have dropped

00:35:02.610 --> 00:35:05.489
Zubamendi and played Eze and let Rice be the

00:35:05.489 --> 00:35:09.010
lone six. Again, I wanted Eze on the wing. So

00:35:09.010 --> 00:35:11.849
I would, even if you push Martinelli through

00:35:11.849 --> 00:35:14.429
the center, I think Martinelli and Gakiris are

00:35:14.429 --> 00:35:16.269
a bit similar if they play through the center,

00:35:16.309 --> 00:35:19.329
but Martinelli has more, like he's better technically,

00:35:19.570 --> 00:35:22.690
like comfortably better technically. Again, that's

00:35:22.690 --> 00:35:24.730
always been my thing. Why not play Martinelli

00:35:24.730 --> 00:35:26.909
through the center and Eze on the left? Then

00:35:26.909 --> 00:35:29.349
you have three quick and creative players attacking.

00:35:30.050 --> 00:35:32.570
Because, yeah, the front three didn't seem balanced.

00:35:33.300 --> 00:35:35.699
Maduweke, Jokers, and Martinelli. That's not

00:35:35.699 --> 00:35:38.300
a... And I think Maduweke needs a high amount

00:35:38.300 --> 00:35:41.460
of technical security around him to be able to

00:35:41.460 --> 00:35:44.539
reach his, like, having Ben White or Timber close

00:35:44.539 --> 00:35:46.639
to him sometimes. Particularly Ben White, because

00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:48.699
I think Ben White's good at interplay. Ben White's

00:35:48.699 --> 00:35:51.679
good at overlapping. I think Saka plays better.

00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:53.480
Saka could play with either. He plays better

00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:56.219
with Timber because I think he's good at going

00:35:56.219 --> 00:35:59.670
inside. But the way Saka played the 10... is

00:35:59.670 --> 00:36:01.469
the way I would want Martin to play. Like, he

00:36:01.469 --> 00:36:04.010
constantly played forward. He constantly took

00:36:04.010 --> 00:36:05.730
men out for the strikers. And like you said,

00:36:05.769 --> 00:36:07.809
it was more a thing of Kikiris and Martinelli

00:36:07.809 --> 00:36:10.530
not making the runs when Saka or Eze later on

00:36:10.530 --> 00:36:14.110
opened up the space. So, I think the main thing

00:36:14.110 --> 00:36:17.050
I would like, a fundamental disagreement I've

00:36:17.050 --> 00:36:19.809
probably had with Arteta since Eze signed is

00:36:19.809 --> 00:36:22.150
that he hasn't played Saka and Eze much together.

00:36:22.289 --> 00:36:24.730
Whereas I think you have to find a way to get

00:36:24.730 --> 00:36:27.090
them both in the team for me. How much did he

00:36:27.090 --> 00:36:29.320
cost? Like 65 million or something? thing for

00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:31.760
Eze and I feel like you really haven't gotten

00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:34.059
the best out of him or you know what we've seen

00:36:34.059 --> 00:36:37.559
at Crystal Palace he hasn't shown that quality

00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:42.679
at Arsenal I don't think but yes I thought Andre

00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:45.900
had a very tidy game he was also he's the CDM

00:36:45.900 --> 00:36:49.690
for Wolves at the base of their midfield You

00:36:49.690 --> 00:36:51.590
could say perhaps it's because Zubomendi was

00:36:51.590 --> 00:36:54.670
tired that made him look good. But I just thought

00:36:54.670 --> 00:36:57.010
he, not just in this game, but I've seen him

00:36:57.010 --> 00:36:59.809
a few times and he just looks like a tidy player.

00:37:00.130 --> 00:37:02.190
Yeah, and I think Zubomendi, you're right, he

00:37:02.190 --> 00:37:04.650
just needs a rest. Because for like 10 -minute

00:37:04.650 --> 00:37:06.469
spells, he'll look unplayable and then he'll

00:37:06.469 --> 00:37:08.349
completely drop off. I don't know if it's an

00:37:08.349 --> 00:37:11.909
energy thing. Maybe he has a different level

00:37:11.909 --> 00:37:14.269
of physicality in the Premier League that he's

00:37:14.269 --> 00:37:17.400
not used to. like i think it's in la liga it's

00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:19.380
more technical it's more like everyone plays

00:37:19.380 --> 00:37:22.059
on the ground there's not as much teams that

00:37:22.059 --> 00:37:24.679
press high you know so he looks tired but at

00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:27.619
times when when the game state is in our favor

00:37:27.619 --> 00:37:30.280
he looks like our best player so it's hard to

00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:32.099
judge with him i can understand why he's not

00:37:32.099 --> 00:37:34.460
being dropped but i do think he needs to be rotated

00:37:34.460 --> 00:37:37.449
and I think Nogard is good enough. Like, unless

00:37:37.449 --> 00:37:39.630
we're playing one of the big teams, I think he

00:37:39.630 --> 00:37:41.750
can fill in those dynamics good enough for us

00:37:41.750 --> 00:37:45.750
to get at least a couple of wins and some rest

00:37:45.750 --> 00:37:48.170
in Zubamendi's legs, you know. Nogard is Premier

00:37:48.170 --> 00:37:50.949
League proven. It's such a shame that he's not

00:37:50.949 --> 00:37:52.849
getting more minutes. Yeah, exactly. I mean,

00:37:52.869 --> 00:37:56.050
I agree with you on that. Even give Rice a rest,

00:37:56.170 --> 00:37:58.469
you know. Yeah, Rice needs a rest. Play Nogard

00:37:58.469 --> 00:38:00.190
and Zubamendi together. But like I said, with

00:38:00.190 --> 00:38:03.280
Rice I can understand because... I think he would

00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:06.119
have lost a lot of games had it just not been

00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:08.699
for Rice and the way he was able to break up

00:38:08.699 --> 00:38:11.559
the opposition play and sustain our pressure.

00:38:11.739 --> 00:38:14.340
Like, at times, he's not meant to be the creative

00:38:14.340 --> 00:38:16.320
outlet, like you said, for the goal we scored.

00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:18.500
But he takes that on. He does it because no one

00:38:18.500 --> 00:38:21.199
else is doing it. But isn't that bad coaching?

00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:23.900
I wouldn't say it's necessarily bad coaching.

00:38:23.980 --> 00:38:26.099
I think sometimes it can be a sign of overcoaching.

00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:29.320
Maybe inexperienced coaching? Yes. I wouldn't

00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:32.400
say it's necessarily bad because... I think at

00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:34.739
the same time, it's like... Because if Rice feels

00:38:34.739 --> 00:38:37.500
he's the only one that can, you know, make a

00:38:37.500 --> 00:38:38.699
difference... I don't necessarily think Rice

00:38:38.699 --> 00:38:40.179
feels that way. Like you said, we're getting

00:38:40.179 --> 00:38:43.039
in good positions. I think... I don't know if

00:38:43.039 --> 00:38:45.119
it's a coaching issue or if it's something where

00:38:45.119 --> 00:38:47.500
the rest of the players aren't necessarily taking

00:38:47.500 --> 00:38:50.699
on the responsibility that Rice does. Saka does.

00:38:51.369 --> 00:38:53.289
I mean, I don't think Saka's fully fit. I think

00:38:53.289 --> 00:38:55.250
he's also being overplayed because he's coming

00:38:55.250 --> 00:38:58.170
back from injury, being played again every game,

00:38:58.210 --> 00:39:00.889
full 90 minutes, I think. Maybe now he's trying

00:39:00.889 --> 00:39:04.230
to rotate him more. Hopefully, things peak at

00:39:04.230 --> 00:39:06.369
the end of the season. But I do think it's like

00:39:06.369 --> 00:39:09.530
so many times Eze will make a gap, Saka will

00:39:09.530 --> 00:39:12.030
make a gap, and then Martinelli runs to the ball,

00:39:12.190 --> 00:39:16.030
Gokiris runs to the ball. So it could be an issue

00:39:16.030 --> 00:39:18.550
of bad coaching, but I'd say that if the floor

00:39:18.550 --> 00:39:20.210
of the team is that good, then we're not going

00:39:20.210 --> 00:39:22.739
to drop. below a certain level I think at some

00:39:22.739 --> 00:39:25.099
point it's like maybe the players have to help

00:39:25.099 --> 00:39:27.340
the coach out maybe the coach has to be less

00:39:27.340 --> 00:39:29.179
authoritarian I don't know what's happening behind

00:39:29.179 --> 00:39:32.840
the scenes but I would say that it's like I wouldn't

00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:34.659
like it's hard to say it's bad coaching when

00:39:34.659 --> 00:39:36.539
you hardly give anything away because we are

00:39:36.539 --> 00:39:39.300
a defensive team so I think everything is approximated

00:39:39.300 --> 00:39:42.019
of the fact that we play defensive football in

00:39:42.019 --> 00:39:45.900
Arteta's mind so yeah but it's like you can't

00:39:45.900 --> 00:39:48.860
just miss out a whole portion of play and say

00:39:48.860 --> 00:39:50.780
well i'm a defensive but i think it could just

00:39:50.780 --> 00:39:53.139
be a thing of like a certain level of games i

00:39:53.139 --> 00:39:54.699
think he approaches football in the same way

00:39:54.699 --> 00:39:57.559
that simeonio mourinho approach football so his

00:39:57.559 --> 00:39:59.619
thing is if we can reduce the amount of chances

00:39:59.619 --> 00:40:03.139
our opponents create we need we don't need to

00:40:03.139 --> 00:40:06.039
create too much to win so it's not like we're

00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:08.630
gonna I think we have the best ex -league difference

00:40:08.630 --> 00:40:10.670
in the league, but in terms of chances created,

00:40:10.769 --> 00:40:13.130
I think we like fourth or fifth. So I think there's

00:40:13.130 --> 00:40:14.929
like, there's something there that shows that

00:40:14.929 --> 00:40:17.070
it's more like in every game we're creating more

00:40:17.070 --> 00:40:19.010
chances than the team we're playing. That's how

00:40:19.010 --> 00:40:21.610
Atletico views football. So I think it's more

00:40:21.610 --> 00:40:24.929
a thing of, it's like we are going to have to

00:40:24.929 --> 00:40:27.130
win in a similar way to a Simeone team in the

00:40:27.130 --> 00:40:30.710
same way that Griezmann or Koke would. would

00:40:30.710 --> 00:40:33.809
take the risk and bail the system out in a game

00:40:33.809 --> 00:40:35.750
where it was on a nice edge. I think Arsenal

00:40:35.750 --> 00:40:38.090
players need to do that more. We did that at

00:40:38.090 --> 00:40:40.010
the start of the season. We've done that at points.

00:40:40.070 --> 00:40:42.070
So hopefully we can get over the line. I think

00:40:42.070 --> 00:40:45.769
we will still. I really do. But let's see. I

00:40:45.769 --> 00:40:47.590
think a lot of it is going to be dependent on

00:40:47.590 --> 00:40:51.250
Rice, Saka and Eze for the rest of the season.

00:40:52.489 --> 00:40:56.150
So it's about the 88th minute and I'm thinking

00:40:56.150 --> 00:40:59.349
these guys are time -wasting pieces of shit.

00:41:00.050 --> 00:41:03.710
Rice takes a full minute to take a corner Crossout

00:41:03.710 --> 00:41:06.050
refuses to leave the pitch to get treatment for

00:41:06.050 --> 00:41:10.190
He said he got elbowed but instead of getting

00:41:10.190 --> 00:41:12.090
treatment here he stays on the pitch and keeps

00:41:12.090 --> 00:41:15.510
walking around And I understand every team wastes

00:41:15.510 --> 00:41:17.849
time But this was really overdoing it. I was

00:41:17.849 --> 00:41:20.969
getting pissed off. But Trussell was a concussion.

00:41:21.710 --> 00:41:23.750
He had to do a concussion check, right? And it

00:41:23.750 --> 00:41:25.269
looked like he actually struggled, struggling

00:41:25.269 --> 00:41:27.269
to walk and stuff. Oh, but you get injured, you

00:41:27.269 --> 00:41:29.170
go off the pitch, right? But I'm saying if he

00:41:29.170 --> 00:41:30.989
was stumbling, maybe he was struggling to get

00:41:30.989 --> 00:41:33.369
off the pitch. What's interesting is, and I went

00:41:33.369 --> 00:41:36.650
back to watch it, he gets up, he looks to the

00:41:36.650 --> 00:41:39.849
bench, shakes his head, and walks back onto the

00:41:39.849 --> 00:41:42.710
pitch, right? And then they do sub him later,

00:41:42.789 --> 00:41:46.619
but he was trying to waste time. Okay, I'll take

00:41:46.619 --> 00:41:52.420
your word for it. I didn't see the review of

00:41:52.420 --> 00:41:54.480
the situation, so I'll take your word for it.

00:41:54.539 --> 00:41:56.920
So then, as it goes on, a hit -and -hope cross

00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:59.440
from Matthias Mane leads to a mix -up from Raya

00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:02.820
and Gabriel. So there's obviously some miscommunication,

00:42:02.860 --> 00:42:05.900
but I believe Raya is to blame. He needs to be

00:42:05.900 --> 00:42:08.760
more forceful and take command of his area. I

00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:12.340
think in that situation, Raya was to be blamed.

00:42:12.809 --> 00:42:14.829
could be blamed but I think Gabriel was chaotic

00:42:14.829 --> 00:42:17.230
throughout the game aside from the exceptional

00:42:17.230 --> 00:42:20.530
pass he gave for the second goal like he was

00:42:20.530 --> 00:42:23.769
very very off it he lost the ball a lot like

00:42:23.769 --> 00:42:26.090
you said he was just I feel like Saliba and Rice

00:42:26.090 --> 00:42:27.730
were trying to play out and then Gabriel would

00:42:27.730 --> 00:42:30.050
just clear it out then he's shouting at players

00:42:30.050 --> 00:42:32.650
when he makes a mistake so I think he was just

00:42:32.650 --> 00:42:35.800
I've seen that before Jordan Anderson, the biggest

00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:38.280
culprit. You'll shout at someone for not being

00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:41.300
there. There was one time he was supposed to

00:42:41.300 --> 00:42:43.920
be marking the space and they scored and he looks

00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:45.780
around and he can't find anyone to shout at.

00:42:47.699 --> 00:42:49.760
That's what it was. It was strange from Gabriel.

00:42:51.230 --> 00:42:54.250
He needs to rein it in a bit, I think. If I was

00:42:54.250 --> 00:42:56.269
Arteta, I'd give the captain's armband to Rice

00:42:56.269 --> 00:42:58.650
because I think Rice is... He's the only one

00:42:58.650 --> 00:43:02.090
stepping up. And everyone, I think he has the

00:43:02.090 --> 00:43:04.710
most... Seems like he has the most respected

00:43:04.710 --> 00:43:09.309
voice in the dressing room. I see. So, I really

00:43:09.309 --> 00:43:12.210
thought Arsenal deserved it for the egregious

00:43:12.210 --> 00:43:14.820
time -wasting they were doing. They bottled a

00:43:14.820 --> 00:43:17.039
2 -0 lead against the bottom team. I thought

00:43:17.039 --> 00:43:19.340
Wolves, in the end, they deserved the point.

00:43:19.420 --> 00:43:21.420
They put enough pressure on in the last 30 minutes

00:43:21.420 --> 00:43:25.579
to say that, okay, it was a fair result. I would

00:43:25.579 --> 00:43:28.860
argue that in the reverse fixture, they gave

00:43:28.860 --> 00:43:31.679
Arsenal a really good game. The reverse fixture,

00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:33.599
they were better than Arsenal. It was actually,

00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:36.840
I think, the last kickoff of the game that Arsenal

00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:39.900
scored from that they just made it out instead

00:43:39.900 --> 00:43:42.320
of getting a draw against them at the Emirates.

00:43:44.610 --> 00:43:49.050
Yeah, very good job to Wolves, I think. Now,

00:43:49.150 --> 00:43:51.389
the bigger question is, they bottled the lead

00:43:51.389 --> 00:43:55.250
last night. Will they bottle the league? I mean,

00:43:55.269 --> 00:43:58.170
two points. It depends. We've seen gaps close

00:43:58.170 --> 00:44:00.750
to two points. We've seen it go both ways. We

00:44:00.750 --> 00:44:02.889
know Man City. We know what Pep's going to do,

00:44:02.909 --> 00:44:04.869
probably. We know it's probably going to be 90

00:44:04.869 --> 00:44:08.789
% till the end of the season. We'll see. I don't

00:44:08.789 --> 00:44:10.369
think we're going to bottle it, honestly. So

00:44:10.369 --> 00:44:13.110
if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. It is what it is, you

00:44:13.110 --> 00:44:17.170
know. We keep moving. I think this is not the

00:44:17.170 --> 00:44:21.449
city of old. There's no KDB. There's no Gundogan.

00:44:22.489 --> 00:44:24.909
Foden is out of form. Who's going to be the one

00:44:24.909 --> 00:44:26.989
to put the team on their back and carry them

00:44:26.989 --> 00:44:32.219
through these next 12 or so games? Shirky. Turkey.

00:44:32.219 --> 00:44:34.219
Could be. Could be. I don't know why I'm laughing.

00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:36.719
I just think it's not the city of old. They're

00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:40.699
not capable of going on like a 10 game unbeaten.

00:44:40.699 --> 00:44:43.900
That's what's still making me think we're going

00:44:43.900 --> 00:44:46.380
to win it in the end. That being said, I think

00:44:46.380 --> 00:44:48.360
we'll get the best of them. I think they'll beat

00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:51.820
Arsenal at the Etihad. So, I just don't see where

00:44:51.820 --> 00:44:56.099
the, you know, where City are going to lose the

00:44:56.099 --> 00:44:58.539
points. You know what I'm saying? I don't know.

00:44:58.619 --> 00:45:01.119
I think, We've been generally good. We've had

00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:03.260
a good record against them in the last two seasons.

00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:05.699
I think we can beat them there, but I think it's

00:45:05.699 --> 00:45:07.420
going to be more than that. I think both teams

00:45:07.420 --> 00:45:10.380
are not really looking like complete teams yet,

00:45:10.460 --> 00:45:11.940
so I think there's going to be a lot of drop

00:45:11.940 --> 00:45:13.320
points. It's going to be an entertaining title

00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:16.619
race. I think Aston Villa will also drop away.

00:45:16.719 --> 00:45:18.480
They've also been conceding a lot of chances.

00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:20.019
You keep saying that. It's been two months that

00:45:20.019 --> 00:45:21.400
you keep saying that. Yeah, and they've dropped

00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:24.239
from five to seven points away. Arsenal haven't

00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:25.780
been playing well. City haven't been playing

00:45:25.780 --> 00:45:28.900
well, so they're still dropping away. All right.

00:45:30.659 --> 00:45:32.599
Anything else you want to mention about this

00:45:32.599 --> 00:45:34.719
game? Any other points you want to bring up?

00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:38.579
Nah, I mean... You said you wanted to say something

00:45:38.579 --> 00:45:41.039
about Rice? Oh, I think I just like... Okay,

00:45:41.099 --> 00:45:43.300
you said it within the... More that he seems

00:45:43.300 --> 00:45:45.420
to be the player that's taking on a lot of creative

00:45:45.420 --> 00:45:48.730
responsibility. If I had... To guess, I liked

00:45:48.730 --> 00:45:51.210
the way Saka played the 10, so that worked out

00:45:51.210 --> 00:45:53.210
now. But before that, I was going to say if Arteta

00:45:53.210 --> 00:45:56.070
refuses to play Saka in the 10, because the thing

00:45:56.070 --> 00:45:58.889
with Eze is he has a lot of similar traits to

00:45:58.889 --> 00:46:01.469
Saka in the 10, but I think the one thing he's

00:46:01.469 --> 00:46:04.030
not as good at, specifically in the middle, is

00:46:04.030 --> 00:46:07.469
leading the press. And I think he has to pick

00:46:07.469 --> 00:46:09.389
that up, especially because he's coming from

00:46:09.389 --> 00:46:12.710
pressing in a back three under Glasner, where

00:46:12.710 --> 00:46:14.550
I think he was the player that the team played

00:46:14.550 --> 00:46:18.059
for. coming into a team where Saka is the player

00:46:18.059 --> 00:46:21.179
the team plays for so I think it makes more sense

00:46:21.179 --> 00:46:23.340
to have him on the wing it can open up his creative

00:46:23.340 --> 00:46:25.420
abilities he gets more chances as well because

00:46:25.420 --> 00:46:27.360
I don't think he's ever played in a team where

00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:30.280
he hasn't had to be the main creative and scoring

00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:32.980
outlet so now he finally well I guess when Olise

00:46:32.980 --> 00:46:35.880
was there but It wasn't the Olisse of now, you

00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.940
know, it was like a very raw Olisse. So it's

00:46:38.940 --> 00:46:41.519
like, I think now he has a player like Saka alongside

00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:43.719
him where he can focus a bit more on the end

00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:46.179
product. And I think Saka is a better player

00:46:46.179 --> 00:46:48.920
centrally than Eze. Eze is a better player potentially

00:46:48.920 --> 00:46:51.679
on the left than Saka. So hopefully that comes

00:46:51.679 --> 00:46:54.500
into play. If anything, I think... Before, I

00:46:54.500 --> 00:46:56.380
was going to say I would have wanted Rice closer

00:46:56.380 --> 00:46:58.840
to goal because he seems to be taking on the

00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:01.300
responsibility of at least taking shots or swinging

00:47:01.300 --> 00:47:04.239
in crosses. But I would like both of them closer

00:47:04.239 --> 00:47:07.199
to goal. So it means, like, I think I like the

00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:09.340
fact that Rice is taking risks, like you said.

00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:12.099
So I think if we get him a bit more in places

00:47:12.099 --> 00:47:15.800
where he can create, because it's not like Martinelli

00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:17.860
or Trossard. I mean, Trossard is doing well,

00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:21.400
depending on how you look at it. Whoever's occupying

00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:24.559
the half spaces, if it's not Saka or Eze, I don't

00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:26.739
think they're doing much. And I think if Eze

00:47:26.739 --> 00:47:29.400
is our best finisher, it makes sense to get someone

00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:31.239
else who's going to take the risks in the half

00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:33.860
spaces. That's what I liked Calafuri for, but

00:47:33.860 --> 00:47:37.500
he's injured for a while now. Did he play last

00:47:37.500 --> 00:47:41.059
night? I read something that he's injured or

00:47:41.059 --> 00:47:44.719
he's out now. After last night? Maybe. I read

00:47:44.719 --> 00:47:46.260
it this morning. I could have been reading an

00:47:46.260 --> 00:47:49.400
old article. Sorry if I'm wrong. Okay, because

00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:52.599
he's the one... We didn't actually mention the

00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:56.340
goal, but there was a mix -up from Raya and Gabriela,

00:47:56.440 --> 00:47:57.980
and then they scored. We just mentioned the mix

00:47:57.980 --> 00:48:00.340
-up. It got credited to him as an own goal. Yes,

00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:05.079
yes. So, I also want to say, shout -out to Tom

00:48:05.079 --> 00:48:09.679
Idozi, who's a debutante. He's the one who scored

00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:12.820
the goal. Oh, okay, yeah. Well, now that you're

00:48:12.820 --> 00:48:14.880
saying Calafiori, it was great to him, but I

00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:16.599
mean... He took the shot. It was a good shot.

00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:18.440
It was a really good shot. It was his debut,

00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:21.360
and I really think that was a really good moment

00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:24.940
for him. Yeah. So, yeah. Kudos to him. Kudos.

00:48:25.320 --> 00:48:28.039
But, yeah, basically, I'd just say get Rice closer

00:48:28.039 --> 00:48:30.019
to goal, and I think right now, the way he's

00:48:30.019 --> 00:48:31.960
playing, he can solve a lot of our problems.

00:48:32.219 --> 00:48:35.159
All right. So, we're done with this? Yeah. You

00:48:35.159 --> 00:48:38.280
have no other thoughts? Not as far as I can think

00:48:38.280 --> 00:48:43.159
of. On your end? Not really. I think I would

00:48:43.159 --> 00:48:48.579
put down the draw to Arteta. Yeah, I would as

00:48:48.579 --> 00:48:52.679
well. Not rotating enough. Not playing front

00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:54.900
foot football against the worst team in the league.

00:48:56.519 --> 00:48:58.159
There's a lot of times where I just thought,

00:48:58.219 --> 00:49:00.139
you're passing sideways, passing sideways. It

00:49:00.139 --> 00:49:03.500
should be more active. This is the type of game

00:49:03.500 --> 00:49:07.340
where you extend your goal difference. This isn't

00:49:07.340 --> 00:49:11.190
the type of game where you... you know, unceremoniously

00:49:11.190 --> 00:49:13.829
throw things away, you know, and that's a damn

00:49:13.829 --> 00:49:16.030
shame for Arsenal if this is the way they bottle

00:49:16.030 --> 00:49:19.190
the league. We'll see. Time will tell. I don't

00:49:19.190 --> 00:49:20.869
think they're going to bottle it. But that being

00:49:20.869 --> 00:49:24.329
said, I am going to make the image for this episode

00:49:24.329 --> 00:49:27.929
a picture of Arteta inside of a Coke bottle saying,

00:49:28.030 --> 00:49:31.690
Bottle Man begins the Arteta story. Okay. Okay.

00:49:33.730 --> 00:49:37.489
So let's get on to the miscellaneous news stories,

00:49:37.570 --> 00:49:40.280
which is only one. I forgot to mention this in

00:49:40.280 --> 00:49:43.119
the last episode, so... Jose Mourinho's a cunt.

00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:47.019
Is that it? Okay. Vitor Pereira named the new

00:49:47.019 --> 00:49:49.639
Nottingham Forest coach. Oh, he gets another

00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:53.860
go at the Premier League. You're not a fan? I

00:49:53.860 --> 00:49:56.179
didn't... I thought he did well at Wolves when

00:49:56.179 --> 00:50:00.139
he first came in. I remember they... I think

00:50:00.139 --> 00:50:02.260
they played a game against Man City where they...

00:50:02.260 --> 00:50:04.179
I don't know if they lost the one, but I think

00:50:04.179 --> 00:50:05.960
they had them on the back foot for most of the

00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:09.199
game, so... I don't know much about Vito Pereira,

00:50:09.219 --> 00:50:13.159
honestly. Well, I know that he played with a

00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:17.800
back three. Yeah. That's about it. I mean, again,

00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:21.179
the only protagonist of a back three to date

00:50:21.179 --> 00:50:25.019
that I've liked is probably Simone Inzaghi. And

00:50:25.019 --> 00:50:30.880
Thomas Tuchel. Conte. No. Fuck off. I mean, but

00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:33.039
Thomas Tuchel kind of, he started with a back

00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:35.420
four, went to a back three. He's like, you don't

00:50:35.420 --> 00:50:36.940
know what you're getting with him. Whereas, I

00:50:36.940 --> 00:50:39.460
guess, what is it? Inzaghi is more principled

00:50:39.460 --> 00:50:43.940
on only using a back three. Yeah, but Vitor Pereira,

00:50:44.019 --> 00:50:47.420
I was actually very bullish about Wolves coming

00:50:47.420 --> 00:50:50.000
into the season because he had them playing so

00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:54.239
good football last season. Now, am I just looking

00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:57.530
at results and saying, oh he got the result or

00:50:57.530 --> 00:51:01.070
because I don't actually watch them so I wonder

00:51:01.070 --> 00:51:03.150
if it's going to be similar at Forest where it's

00:51:03.150 --> 00:51:07.050
like he'll con a few results but like playing

00:51:07.050 --> 00:51:10.389
style wise he's not but sometimes it's not even

00:51:10.389 --> 00:51:12.190
really about the playing style because I think

00:51:12.190 --> 00:51:14.150
many coaches can come in and play good football

00:51:14.150 --> 00:51:17.570
I think we've discussed it in private many times

00:51:17.570 --> 00:51:19.889
that probably the biggest thing with football

00:51:19.889 --> 00:51:23.599
coaching is man management I think that's why

00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:26.559
you could have someone who probably doesn't think

00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:29.039
about the tactical or analytical elements of

00:51:29.039 --> 00:51:32.300
the game as much as people who would be considered

00:51:32.300 --> 00:51:34.960
the greatest coaches, like Ancelotti or even

00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:36.880
Alex Ferguson, to that matter, who can still

00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:39.340
rise to the top of the footballing pyramid just

00:51:39.340 --> 00:51:43.000
off their man management. All right. Anything

00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:45.579
else to say about Vitor Pereira? I wish him luck.

00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:48.619
I like Nottingham Forest. I mean, I don't like

00:51:48.619 --> 00:51:52.670
their owner. I don't like Mr. Marinakis. I kind

00:51:52.670 --> 00:51:56.369
of like the history of the club. They have a

00:51:56.369 --> 00:51:57.849
good story. I've watched a couple documentaries

00:51:57.849 --> 00:52:00.389
on Brian Kloss. I wish them luck. I hope he succeeds.

00:52:01.769 --> 00:52:05.590
I also wish them luck. In the championship next

00:52:05.590 --> 00:52:11.250
year. You've been waiting to say that. No. I'm

00:52:11.250 --> 00:52:15.110
just... I want West Ham to stay up. So by virtue

00:52:15.110 --> 00:52:17.650
of that, somebody has to go down, right? And

00:52:17.650 --> 00:52:19.730
that just happens to be Nottingham Forest. Hopefully

00:52:19.730 --> 00:52:21.929
it's Tottenham. No hard feelings to Nottingham

00:52:21.929 --> 00:52:24.289
Forest, but it's going to be you. Tottenham are

00:52:24.289 --> 00:52:26.730
firmly in there now. They're in the race, but...

00:52:26.730 --> 00:52:29.050
If Igor Trudeau has his six months like he had

00:52:29.050 --> 00:52:31.690
before he got sacked at Juventus, they might

00:52:31.690 --> 00:52:36.570
go down. That is true. Yeah, Igor Trudeau and

00:52:36.570 --> 00:52:38.670
Vito Pereira, that should have been the same

00:52:38.670 --> 00:52:41.340
story we were talking about. On Monday. Yeah.

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So. I'd regret not bringing it up then. But yeah.

00:52:45.739 --> 00:52:50.199
Two new managers for the. The. The race. For

00:52:50.199 --> 00:52:52.840
the bottom. Let's see how it pans out. I'm shocked

00:52:52.840 --> 00:52:54.760
that Tottenham didn't get the Zerbi though. I

00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:57.380
mean he was right there. Opportunity missed.

00:52:57.639 --> 00:53:00.679
But. Someone will get him. Someone will get him.

00:53:00.739 --> 00:53:02.460
I'm pretty sure he's coming back to the Premier

00:53:02.460 --> 00:53:05.059
League. I just don't know where. Alright. Well.

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