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And welcome back to the P .D. Football Podcast.

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My name is Presh. What's up, everybody? My name

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is Darren. And how are you doing today? I'm good,

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I'm good. Tired from work, as usual. What about

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you? I'm just chilled out, bro. Chilled out and

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ready to try to board Arsenal vs. Chelsea. Arsenal,

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the Carabao Cup. Yes. That's where we're starting.

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Well, we only have two topics today. Well, excuse

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me. One topic has two matches. I guess... It's

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the Carabao Cup and the January transfer window.

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Okay, yeah. Right, so Carabao Cup is split into

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two games, right? So the first game I want to

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speak about in the Carabao Cup is Arsenal versus

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Chelsea. And Chelsea set up in a 3 -5 -2, presumably

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to go man -for -man with Arsenal's front three

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and to overload the midfield area so that they

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can gain control. Yeah, that would be the assumption.

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Right. Arsenal set up pretty much like they usually

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do, except Kepa in for Raya, Eze in for Odegaard,

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Meduike in for the injured Saka, and Martinelli

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in for Trossard, being the main changes. And

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I guess, like you would say, Jokeres shouldn't

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be starting. It should be either Havertz or Jesus.

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Yeah, I mean, that would be my preferred choice

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of starter. But I think I understand starting

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Jokeres yesterday, given... I don't think Havertz

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or Jesus will probably fully fit. So this is

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one of, if not the most boring game I've watched

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this season. The person to blame is Liam Roseno.

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I often call Arteta a coward for not taking the

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game to the opposition. So in this case, I have

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to say, Liam Roseno, you are a coward. And your

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team is playing cowardly football. His game plan

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was to sit deep and defend. while losing, I might

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add, and then bring on Estavao, who was on compassionate

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leave, and Palmer, whose minutes have been managed,

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on to try and get a late goal to take it to extra

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time, right? Yeah, that was pretty much their

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game plan. If it had worked, people would be

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calling him a genius, but right now he just looks

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like a tit, because he wasted 60 minutes of time,

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which, you know, could have been you spent attacking.

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yeah i mean i think they didn't really pressure

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us i think also from our perspective we didn't

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have to trace the game so it made sense to kind

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of conserve energy i mean we don't want to like

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our players to overexert themselves if there's

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no need so i think chelsea made the game very

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easy for us so i don't think arsenal would have

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wanted to play this game You know, like you always

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talk about, you prefer a single leg instead of

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double or two legs. So I assume Arteta feels

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the same way. Especially, I guess, as the season

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goes on because a player getting injured now

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is going to be more impactful than them getting

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injured. Yeah, for the FA Cup, Champions League,

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etc. Yeah. So, Liam Roseno's game plan was flawed

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from the beginning. But I also disagree with

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the choice to play Liam DeLapp on the right -hand

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side wing. He did absolutely nothing and actually

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wasted several good opportunities that he had

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in space. Garnaccio should have started because,

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like I mentioned, Esteval was on compassionate

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leave. I'm not exactly sure what happened, but

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he flew back to Brazil to be with his family

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for a while. Oh, okay. I didn't know that. Again,

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I don't want to know about some... That has nothing

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to do with me. irrelevant yes that uh and palmer

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uh because he's been played a lot he played 90

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minutes against uh west ham on the other day

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uh so you know he he wasn't going to start this

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game so the only other option i could say is

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garnacho and i understand garnacho is a left

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wing play jao pedro on the right play garnacho

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on the left right uh that that's what i thought

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he should have done uh because the lap didn't

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contribute anything there's a second game in

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a row that i'm mentioning the lap just being

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useless yeah i mean i don't i think even watching

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the game i didn't really feel like threatened

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even with with all the position chelsea had in

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the first even i mean even when they when they

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began i guess you could say taking the initiative

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yeah in the last 30 minutes It didn't really

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feel like, I mean, outside of Enzo Fernandes,

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I think that was the most threatening player

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for me. But even that, those were speculative

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shots from outside of the box. It wasn't well

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worked. Yeah, yeah. I'm saying more from a perspective

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of, I think he was the one who was keeping Kelsey

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ticking. If there was any player in Kelsey that

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was playing well. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. Yes.

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The playmaker. Yeah. Whatever you want to call

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him. The dictator. The orchestrator. He also

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looked a bit frustrated by the way, I guess,

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rossini set up you know i think he he he made

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a lot of good passes and i think the momentum

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broke down because the second the receiver didn't

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have many options after that it's not like he

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has the athleticism necessarily to always follow

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his pass like i was saying with the uh the lap

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it was actually enzo was the one who was finding

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him in space and giving him the opportunity to

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run at arsenal's back line but then the lap couldn't

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make use of Enzo's passes yeah I mean I think

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even I think Cucurella was struggling a bit with

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interpreting when to press and when to I guess

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hang back within the context of I guess coming

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from Maresca where it was like generally you

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would know I guess more clearly which moments

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to press and which not to press whereas it seemed

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like maybe the back five was something that they

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probably just practiced in the days leading up

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to the game I felt like Kukuru gave Timbo a lot

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of space and Timbo was able to escape pressure.

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When Chelsea did create pressure a lot, he kind

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of dragged the ball out just to like a simple

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dribble. It really was honestly not a difficult

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game for Arsenal. I didn't really feel threatened

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at any point. So, yeah. As for Arsenal, they

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did nothing because they didn't need to do anything.

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In the first half, I was thinking, oh wow, Chelsea's

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press was working quite well because they kept

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winning the ball in midfield. But it was actually

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Arsenal giving the ball away to Chelsea quite

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a few times. A lot of sloppy passes. I guess

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with Zubimendi, a bit of his first touch was

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let him down. He over -controlled the ball a

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bit. I would also say Rice. And it's not a once

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-off thing. I've seen this in a few games. Rice

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struggles to break the lines with his passes.

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Especially from deep. I don't think he's necessarily

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been a line -breaker. It's still something he's

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developed. Not everyone has to do it. Because

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he plays at 8 now, he doesn't need to do that.

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But when he plays deeper... it makes more sense

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it struggles for him he struggles then to break

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the lines when he's deeper but if he's a little

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bit higher up he doesn't need to I mean Zubimendi

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I guess is the one who usually comes with the

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line breakers so I mean he's probably it depends

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what you're looking for out of like in that specific

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position I guess like Chelsea didn't offer much

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so you couldn't really say that the midfield

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was stretched or the mistakes that were there

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were taken advantage of so it's much more so

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that there were outnumbered in midfield because

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they played Caicedo, Andre Santos and Enzo who

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were all in the midfield versus Rice and Zubamendi

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because Eze was pushing a bit forward. Yeah and

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I mean Eze was also rotating a lot with the wingers.

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So in that sense you could see why the midfield

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battle was quote unquote won by Chelsea because

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they just outnumbered them. Yeah, I think it

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was just a matter of numbers, but Chelsea didn't

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really create numbers in a way where I guess

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the players were familiar with which patterns

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to use. Outside of Enzo Fernandes, again, it

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didn't seem like anyone knew how to progress

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the ball beyond a certain point. They just seemed

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dead for ideas. It could have been down to Arsenal's

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structure, but again, I don't think we were that

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good. Like you said, I don't think we were flawless.

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It wasn't one of our best defensive displays.

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Well, to the edge, when they did attack, I did

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think Arsenal were very resolute in their defense.

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that again like that last 20 -30 minutes yeah

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when the pressure came on but then we also threw

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on our like more disciplined players tactically

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so that helped us but like again it's hard to

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say because I felt like they gave us more in

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the first leg where we dominated the first half

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they came back and I expected them to kind of

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play how they did in the second half again and

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they just didn't didn't put the same i guess

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numbers up or whatever the phrase is that i'm

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looking for yeah palmer couldn't find the space

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he needed when he came on he looked very frustrated

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not only did he look frustrated he who was it

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i think it's garnacho he refused to pass to garnacho

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uh he just there was a garage was totally open

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like three or four times and palmer looked up

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They looked away. I mean, from an Arsenal perspective,

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I'd say that that was probably Hincapie's best

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game that I've seen him play. I mean, Estabal's

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a tricky player. He's obviously still developing,

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but I think he did well against Estabal when

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Estabal came on, and I guess someone saw that

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they had to swap Estabal's side, but Timber also

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did well. I don't necessarily think that Estevao

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should be the player taking on the responsibility

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of single -handedly breaking down the best defence

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in Europe. Alright. Then, I have two points I

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want to make about the corners for Arsenal. One,

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Roseno tried out a new tactic to stop Arsenal's...

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Which was Maresca's tactic of pushing the players

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up. Well... I don't want to say, I've seen Pep

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do it. I think Mariska was the first one to do

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it, though. Alright, but just having a bunch

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of players stay up instead of being in the box,

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it makes the box less congested. Yeah, you can't

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crowd the keeper out as much. Yes. speaking of

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which the second thing is i really saw because

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it's so uncrowded now you can really see arsenal's

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tactic is to just fuck with the keeper yeah to

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prevent the keeper's movement but i still think

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uh create like like my thing is if the players

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push up it creates the option for a short corner

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i think arsenal should use that more if i if

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i would say going forward all right but you're

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just kind of glossing over the fact that that's

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cheating right to bump into the keeper i don't

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i don't see it as cheating because the keeper

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with the players are standing still they're is

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on the keeper to move I'm much more of a wow

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keepers are too protected but watching what Saliba

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was doing to the keeper not last night two nights

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ago I was like a bit of shock I was like wow

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I still really take it to the I mean every team

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pulls and pushes but I think the thing is in

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the moments of blocking the keeper the The person

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taking the corner, Madueke, waited until Saliba

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got a run in on the keeper before he took the

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corner. Because João Pedro was holding him back,

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holding him back, holding him back. And Madueke

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refused to take it until he got the run in. But

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it's not necessarily cheating if he runs and

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stops. Because the onus is on the keeper. It's

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like, as a defender, you jockey a player. It's

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their duty to dribble you, dribble past you or

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past the ball. So if Saliba was barging into

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the keeper and pushing him over, that would be

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a different story. but our players run and hold

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it like a pre they're given a position to run

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to to block the keeper's path and I guess other

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teams are supposed to figure that out how to

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stop it because it's within the laws alright

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fair enough so I hope more teams take on this

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tactic to try and stop Arsenal to corner dominance

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but yeah Moving on with the last kick of the

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game, Havertz scores on a breakaway. I couldn't

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have been happier. Yeah, happy for him because

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he clearly hates Chelsea. They must have treated

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him very poorly or he must have had a bad time

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there because every time he scores against Chelsea,

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he looks so happy. He's kissing the badge. It's

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also a thing of, I guess... From the social media

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angle, at that stage in Chelsea's history, when

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we bought him, him and Werner were really getting

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a lot of abuse online from a lot of Chelsea fans,

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so I guess he took that personal. I see. Well,

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he should take it personally. You know, like,

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they're being dicks to him, so why not return

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the favour? I don't see an issue with that. Yeah,

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I mean, you have a point to prove, so you've

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proved it, you know. Do you have any other points

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you want to make about the Arsenal -Chelsea match?

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How do you feel going into the final? I feel

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confident enough going into the final. We'll

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see. I mean, I still think the priority should

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be the league, obviously. But beating Pep in

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the final is no easy task. So that man is probably

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the... How many finals? He's lost like two finals

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in his career. I can only think of one, which

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is Tuchel in the Chelsea vs... And I think he

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lost the Copa del Rey final to Jose Mourinho

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once. Don't quote me on that. I have no idea.

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No, I think those were his only two final defeats.

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So Pepe is a different animal in the final. So

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let's see. A ruthless winner. It promises to

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be an interesting game, but I do have confidence

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that we can get the better of them. So we're

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done with that. Let's move on to Man City versus

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Newcastle. So City... Sorry. We didn't even mention

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the... The scoreline for the other one, we just

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said that. No, yeah, Arsenal 1 -0. Yes, Arsenal

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1 -1 -0 and 4 -2 overall in this game. Man City

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1 -3 -1 and 5 -1 overall. Yeah. Right? So, I

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watched the first half of this game last night.

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That was all you needed to watch, really? Yeah,

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and then I went to bed because... Not because

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the match was boring, because I was just tired.

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and yeah City are 5 -0 up so I was like alright

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I mean strangely enough that looked like that

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first half performance to me looked like a Jurgen

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Klopp blow them away type of performance particularly

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the goals that were scored the way that I guess

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it's like they don't attack with as many it's

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like rapid transitions the front three like get

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the ball to the front three and create as much

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space for them as possible or let them exploit

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the space that's there it's I don't know if that

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has a lot to do with Pep Lyon I don't know how

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it has to be yeah I mean in terms of I don't

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know how how much they want to play that way

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if that's Pep Guardiola's way of wanting to play

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but it really it really did look like a Liverpool

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performance of old and they were dominant it's

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what you expected though I probably did expect

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this game to be a thrashing honestly I would

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not take the opposite point of view but I would

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just say more so that Newcastle were bad yeah

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we I said the same thing for the previous game

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where Liverpool played Newcastle. We just walked

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all over them. Same thing happened with City.

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They kind of walked all over them. I don't want

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to give credit to City. That City were incredible.

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City were over -the -top impressive. Not really.

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It was more that Newcastle gave the ball away

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and allowed themselves to be taken advantage

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of on transition, I think. Yeah, no, I agree.

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But I think there were certain things you could

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see in City that maybe the last two games or

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so haven't been there. I think Rodri is not at

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his best. So I think having Nico Gonzalez there,

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he looked a bit better. The dynamics in midfield

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looked a bit better right now. Obviously, he

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still has a long way to go to be Rodri at his

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peak. And obviously, Rodri could still conceivably

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get back to that same level. But I think right

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now, the fluidity, the rotations look better

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with Nico Gonzalez. I think Rodri hasn't got

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back to his athletic peak as yet so he can't

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really rotate as much within within the structure

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as nico gonzalez so he kind of has to hold his

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position which i think affects the midfield dynamics

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especially if they're as reliant on the press

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as they currently are all right so uh do you

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have anything else you want to say about the

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dynamics of the game because uh like i said i

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not just that i went to sleep at halftime it's

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that i was falling asleep in the first half So

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if you could give us more of a... I mean, yeah,

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it was kind of like, in a weird way, it was like

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an old -school Eddie Howe versus Jurgen Klopp

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game. Newcastle started well, but I think the

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problem with Newcastle is always that their play

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is very, very heavily dependent on their pressing.

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The minute, like... opposition settles down and

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can beat their press regularly they kind of offer

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nothing and they just get opened up time and

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time again and that was the dynamic in the first

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half City could have had five six maybe like

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it was just every time Nico Gonzalez got the

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ball and pushed it forward something looked like

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it was going to happen anytime the front three

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got the ball in particular Semenya I guess you

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could see some deficiencies in his game now that

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perhaps you couldn't see in Bournemouth like

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I guess in a way I would say he has he has like

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As you've described Salah, Salah's deficiencies,

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which I still rate Salah as one of the greatest

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players in the history of the league, but I think

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he has those similar deficiencies where he needs

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the rest of the front three. He needs a Firmino

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type player. I don't think... I just think he

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can't take a man on. Yeah, I mean... Not can't,

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it's just he's bad at it. Yeah, he's very bad

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at it, but I guess... If he's running into space,

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if the space is created for him, he can use the

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space. And that's why he was perfect at Bournemouth,

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because Bournemouth themselves would generate

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the space and then... But it makes sense if they're

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going to play like how you guys played in the

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past, because you guys generated the space for

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Salah the whole time, who wasn't necessarily

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the best in tight spaces either. Could be. Could

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be. No, I'm saying it could work out. That's

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what I mean when I say it could be that it'll

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work out, but... We'll have to see. So let's

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talk about individual moments. Man City's first

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goal, they do a quick one -two to break Newcastle's

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press, and then they get a lucky bounce off Mahmoud

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for the goal. What do you think about that? I

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mean, it was, I guess, like a fortunate goal

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in a sense, but it was coming. City had the momentum

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they were creating consistently, so it was a

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deserved goal, if slightly fortunate. The second

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goal... Reinders carries the ball, at least like

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from his half, into the final third, passes to

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Semenyo, Semenyo crosses, and Mahmoud heads in.

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Oh, yes. I mean, I think Reinders was probably

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my man of the match overall. Yeah, we'll see

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a pattern. Oh, sorry, excuse me. You carry on.

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Yeah, no, I think, no, I was just saying, I think

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Reinders, like, when the space is there, he's

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one of the best ball carriers, I think, in Europe.

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And that came through a lot yesterday. He was

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consistently able to go on, like you said, 30

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-odd runs, 20 runs, but at least five or six

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times, I think. Which brings us to the third

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goal, which was a counterattack. which Newcastle

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lose the ball in the final third. Then Reinders

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runs from midfield once again to the final third,

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passes to Semenyo. Semenyo not passes back, but

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he gets a lucky bounce and then Reinders finishes

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it off himself. Good finish. Good finish. But

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what we're seeing is a pattern here of players

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running through midfield without being challenged.

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And I saw it these past few weeks with Liverpool

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because, not to make everything about Liverpool,

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but just it's a pattern I've seen. because when

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Konate is not playing, Konate is the guy who

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will go out and charge at the player, whereas

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Van Dijk is the one who will lay off. So you

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need one guy that's going to run up and one guy

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that's going to lay off. Both centre -backs can't

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lay off because it's allowing the guy just to

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run up on you. Or, alternatively, a midfielder

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should be tracking back and tracking the man

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and, you know, maybe chopping him down, maybe.

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I mean, like, Newcastle, they look like a completely

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different team with Bruno G in the team. So I

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think not having him there was... Maybe it shows

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how much of a good player he could be in the

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right team. I still think, I don't know how long

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he'll stay loyal to Newcastle, but the fact that

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they're almost always a Champions League or Europa

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League level team with him in the team, and there's

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a couple of weeks or months... the month or so

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that he's been injured they've looked like one

00:20:01.339 --> 00:20:03.519
of the worst teams in the league honestly yeah

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small note I'm thinking about keeping Ego Thiago

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in my fantasy team because they're playing Newcastle

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this week instead of Jao Pedro Jao Pedro's playing

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Wolves and I'm thinking Ego Thiago might fuck

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up Newcastle so badly that makes more sense to

00:20:21.900 --> 00:20:24.900
go for him yeah but that's how bad Newcastle

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are right now anyway for their goal a moment

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of brilliance from Anthony Alanga to score the

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goal to make it 3 -1. What did you make of that?

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I mean, yeah, it was an incredible goal. A bit

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reminiscent of, I guess you could say, like Gareth

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Bale or something when he used to play off the

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right wing at Madrid. So, yeah, it was a good

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goal. I don't know if Newcastle fans will be

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happy with the price tag. I know Newcastle fans

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have pretty much been all over his case since

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he signed. I've seen the quote, worst Newcastle

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signing in years. yeah i've seen that multi i've

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seen i saw someone saying it was the worst signing

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of all time so yeah I mean, it's the price point,

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I guess. But like I said, I've never really agreed

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with taking it out on the player themselves because

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the player is still like a human being. The player

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didn't pay the, you know, set the price tag.

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It's the club that paid it. Yeah, I mean, just

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like talking, like we were talking about mental

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health last week. So as someone who like struggles

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with mental health disorders, it was like, like

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I understand banter, but it's like when you see

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like things of like calling people useless or

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like personally attacking them and their families

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could be online and friends. it's not something

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I like to see personally well I disagree in terms

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of like I think giving them fair criticism yeah

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fair criticism is fine if I say like you did

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this very poorly I don't think that's off yeah

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that's expect that's like holding someone to

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a standard but some of the things you've seen

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is like useless waste of space things like i

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don't think those would be used as descriptions

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to describe any human being it's like if someone

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doesn't do a job properly working alongside you

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you don't motivate them by calling them a waste

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of space you know so true true it's absolutely

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correct uh but yeah any other thoughts you have

00:22:15.339 --> 00:22:17.880
about this game i know just completely what i

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expected both games kind of went as you expected

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i think the the better sides control the games.

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Different ways, I think Man City naturally attacked

00:22:26.819 --> 00:22:29.279
Arsenal, controlled the game, but not really

00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:31.319
exerting themselves, not really giving Chelsea

00:22:31.319 --> 00:22:34.420
anything. So, yeah, let's see. It's good to have

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a final with the current two best teams in the

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country. I would point out City's lack of shots

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on target in second halves. The prior two games,

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They didn't have a shot on targeting the second

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half. So the game against Spurs and... And I

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mean, if you couple that with the fact that they

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concede a high amount of clear -cut chances in

00:23:01.519 --> 00:23:05.970
a lot of games. Yeah, I wonder if... pep liners

00:23:05.970 --> 00:23:08.730
very high intensity type of football is tiring

00:23:08.730 --> 00:23:11.410
them out badly yeah i don't think the squad have

00:23:11.410 --> 00:23:14.049
played in that way before so it's uh i don't

00:23:14.049 --> 00:23:15.609
know you would know better what was it like what

00:23:15.609 --> 00:23:17.789
was what was the first season like was there

00:23:17.789 --> 00:23:20.289
a difference when pep liners came in as opposed

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to before him i don't think so because we already

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gagged pressing and like you know high intensity

00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:28.220
football already for about three years before

00:23:28.220 --> 00:23:31.460
he came in. The former guy, I forget his name,

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his name was Buvak. Do you remember him? No,

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I don't remember much, but you can update me

00:23:35.880 --> 00:23:38.259
on. No, he was just a guy with like a very weird

00:23:38.259 --> 00:23:40.000
hairstyle that he used to sit next to Klopp.

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Oh, okay, yes, now I remember him. I didn't know

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his name. He used to sit next to Klopp and apparently

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he was the brain. But yeah, after he left, he

00:23:47.920 --> 00:23:50.440
won the Champions League. So, you know. Can't

00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:54.019
have been that smart. I guess, what is the brain?

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People always say that the people behind Ancelotti

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were the brains, but I think the man -management

00:23:58.900 --> 00:24:01.299
aspect of football is the most important. Anyone

00:24:01.299 --> 00:24:04.440
can lay a message to someone, but to get that

00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:06.859
message across to a group of players and motivate

00:24:06.859 --> 00:24:08.539
them to play well, that's the most difficult

00:24:08.539 --> 00:24:11.000
thing in coaching. Apparently Klopp was really

00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:14.640
bad at tactics. And Bouvac was the tactical guy.

00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:17.059
And same with Leidners. Leidners is the tactical

00:24:17.059 --> 00:24:19.819
guy. Klopp was just a bad manager. That's, I

00:24:19.819 --> 00:24:22.109
mean... That's what people used to... Obviously,

00:24:22.150 --> 00:24:24.650
now we're going back in time, so he ended up

00:24:24.650 --> 00:24:27.430
having a failed managerial career, but that's

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what people used to say about Alex Ferguson's

00:24:30.230 --> 00:24:32.309
assistant, Alex McLeish, I think, that he was

00:24:32.309 --> 00:24:34.349
the brains behind Opry, but he turned out to

00:24:34.349 --> 00:24:36.349
be a horrible coach when he went on his own.

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Well, same thing. Leiden has failed in, like,

00:24:38.750 --> 00:24:40.789
where did he fail? In Austria. Yeah, with the

00:24:40.789 --> 00:24:43.730
Salzburg. Yeah, Redwoods. So, just because you're

00:24:43.730 --> 00:24:45.769
tactical doesn't mean you have the bad management

00:24:45.769 --> 00:24:48.549
skills to dictate. Oh, yeah, one thing I did

00:24:48.549 --> 00:24:51.609
notice in the City game, though, was that I think

00:24:51.609 --> 00:24:55.170
at some point Pep structured them in a 4 -2 -2

00:24:55.170 --> 00:24:57.750
-2 so I don't know if this is the if De Zerbi's

00:24:57.750 --> 00:25:00.990
influence is as you want it maybe it's seeping

00:25:00.990 --> 00:25:04.670
into other coaches maybe it's seeping into people

00:25:04.670 --> 00:25:06.990
who can actually execute the football to the

00:25:06.990 --> 00:25:10.190
standard you wish yeah Okay. I don't appreciate

00:25:10.190 --> 00:25:13.430
that slight slander at the Zerby, but... No,

00:25:13.450 --> 00:25:15.349
no, I mean... Alright. No, no, I get your point.

00:25:15.410 --> 00:25:17.369
I have the same problem with Spalletti. I'm hoping

00:25:17.369 --> 00:25:19.210
Spalletti is one day going to prove himself.

00:25:20.059 --> 00:25:23.839
But so far, he's defensive. You already proved

00:25:23.839 --> 00:25:27.339
himself. He won Serie A with Napoli, didn't he?

00:25:27.420 --> 00:25:31.539
Yeah, he did. I mean, but in terms of the same

00:25:31.539 --> 00:25:34.160
way you're saying with Deserbi maybe going on

00:25:34.160 --> 00:25:35.940
in the Champions League or going to produce a

00:25:35.940 --> 00:25:38.559
great side, I really do think Spalletti is the

00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:41.279
manager that excites me the most after Pep. So

00:25:41.279 --> 00:25:43.799
are we done here? Do you have any other points

00:25:43.799 --> 00:25:46.029
you want to make about the City game? i mean

00:25:46.029 --> 00:25:49.609
not really i think uh i was just uh curious as

00:25:49.609 --> 00:25:53.029
to maybe see like what do you think the the future

00:25:53.029 --> 00:25:56.490
of of doku is in with simenio there well actually

00:25:56.490 --> 00:25:58.910
i will bring that up right now okay yeah not

00:25:58.910 --> 00:26:02.029
right now but soon we'll put up an in there okay

00:26:02.029 --> 00:26:04.049
no problem yeah then we can go on so let's move

00:26:04.049 --> 00:26:06.890
on to the transfer news uh well not transferred

00:26:06.890 --> 00:26:12.500
use the transfer window segment right I didn't

00:26:12.500 --> 00:26:15.019
keep up with much of the deal, so I'll go with

00:26:15.019 --> 00:26:18.539
what you've told me. So my initial thought was

00:26:18.539 --> 00:26:21.200
to go team by team and judge their transfer window.

00:26:21.660 --> 00:26:24.240
I got until Bournemouth when I realized that

00:26:24.240 --> 00:26:26.940
this was a bad idea. I'm simply not qualified

00:26:26.940 --> 00:26:29.940
to judge if Alex Toth from Ferencváros is a good

00:26:29.940 --> 00:26:33.180
transfer or not. I don't watch the Hungarian

00:26:33.180 --> 00:26:36.420
league. So I thought we should go through a selection

00:26:36.420 --> 00:26:39.039
of transfers that I can express an opinion about.

00:26:39.380 --> 00:26:41.839
I assume similar because these are all intra

00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:45.579
-league transfers. Intra -league transfers between

00:26:45.579 --> 00:26:49.240
other Premier League teams or players we know.

00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:52.180
Big money signings. So all transfer fees are

00:26:52.180 --> 00:26:55.259
given in pounds. So if you maybe have the Euro

00:26:55.259 --> 00:26:57.880
number in your head, that's the reason there's

00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:00.880
a discrepancy here, right? So first transfer,

00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:04.779
Tammy Abram going from Besiktas to Aston Villa

00:27:04.779 --> 00:27:07.859
for 18 .2 million. So first, I recognize that

00:27:07.859 --> 00:27:10.660
Villa need attacking reinforcements, but I just

00:27:10.660 --> 00:27:12.559
don't think he's good enough even as a backup.

00:27:12.859 --> 00:27:15.339
What is Tammy Abram's age right now? He's 28.

00:27:15.740 --> 00:27:18.880
Okay, I mean... I don't think he's... It depends

00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:20.920
who's the first choice if he's good as a backup

00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:22.740
or not. Because I'm sure they're going to move

00:27:22.740 --> 00:27:26.220
Watkins on. So it depends if it's a long -term

00:27:26.220 --> 00:27:28.539
signing. But yeah, I don't feel it much either.

00:27:29.119 --> 00:27:31.500
Villa wants to be a Champions League level club.

00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:34.079
And in my opinion, he's a Conference League level

00:27:34.079 --> 00:27:37.039
player at best. I mean, he's done well in the

00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:38.619
Europa League. I'd say he's a Europa player.

00:27:38.980 --> 00:27:43.019
We can disagree. We can agree to disagree. Yeah,

00:27:43.059 --> 00:27:45.180
I just think this is a bad transfer. Especially

00:27:45.180 --> 00:27:47.799
since he was playing for Besiktas. I think Una

00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:50.400
Emer tried to sign him at Arsenal. So I don't

00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:52.759
know if it's something... The one that got away.

00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:55.480
The one that got away, maybe. Maybe he sees something

00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:59.339
he can do with him. Next, Antoine Semenyo from

00:27:59.339 --> 00:28:02.359
Bournemouth to Man City for 64 million. This

00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:04.240
is probably the most controversial one because

00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:07.059
he's played well so far. But I don't necessarily

00:28:07.059 --> 00:28:09.799
think it was what City needed right now. So I

00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:13.319
think Semenyo is better than both Doku and Semenyo

00:28:13.319 --> 00:28:15.880
in terms of output. And walk straight into their

00:28:15.880 --> 00:28:19.579
team. Yeah. Doku is a much better dribbler. And

00:28:19.579 --> 00:28:24.539
1v1 attacker. Do you think Semenyo elevates the

00:28:24.539 --> 00:28:27.880
team right now? In terms of... I think the problems

00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:31.440
that we're making them... Their most, I guess,

00:28:31.539 --> 00:28:34.019
glaring problems are still there. Which are?

00:28:34.619 --> 00:28:36.859
Defensive, blocking defensive transitions, especially,

00:28:36.940 --> 00:28:39.660
or keeping control of a game through, like, the

00:28:39.660 --> 00:28:42.519
holding midfield, I guess, since Rodri's injury.

00:28:42.779 --> 00:28:45.359
Yeah, I would argue that there's more problems.

00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:47.940
And one of those problems is they're very reliant

00:28:47.940 --> 00:28:51.660
on Haaland for goals. And since his goals have

00:28:51.660 --> 00:28:53.420
dried up at the moment, he's not playing very

00:28:53.420 --> 00:28:57.079
well, they've had a goal drought. And I think

00:28:57.079 --> 00:29:00.059
a winger... who can contribute goals is very

00:29:00.059 --> 00:29:03.900
useful in alleviating that problem because all

00:29:03.900 --> 00:29:06.240
the other wingers, except Chucky, doesn't even

00:29:06.240 --> 00:29:08.700
score goals. Chucky is more of a creator, right?

00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:10.839
But I mean, okay, now you can finish quickly.

00:29:11.019 --> 00:29:13.819
No, you carry on. No, I'm saying, wouldn't, like,

00:29:13.900 --> 00:29:16.700
then, based on the argument you're making, wouldn't

00:29:16.700 --> 00:29:20.000
Semenyo, because we were talking, I guess, earlier

00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:23.490
about... how he's like kind of a Salah type of

00:29:23.490 --> 00:29:25.210
player and I'd say Salah and Haaland are similar

00:29:25.210 --> 00:29:27.130
like they need their teammates to open the pitch

00:29:27.130 --> 00:29:29.490
for them so no but I'm saying Haaland is getting

00:29:29.490 --> 00:29:31.849
chances he's just not finishing them off yeah

00:29:31.849 --> 00:29:34.670
no but so if Semenyo gets chances he will finish

00:29:34.670 --> 00:29:37.369
them off but then it could be a point in the

00:29:37.369 --> 00:29:39.519
future where you've face the same problem where

00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:42.339
like you say if the if the midfield is not dominating

00:29:42.339 --> 00:29:43.960
enough if they're not getting enough chances

00:29:43.960 --> 00:29:46.200
from the midfield or the fullbacks depending

00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:49.359
how you go about creating chances all right let's

00:29:49.359 --> 00:29:51.539
ignore the rest of Sati's problems let's just

00:29:51.539 --> 00:29:54.539
say in a vacuum he he's better than all the other

00:29:54.539 --> 00:29:57.900
wingers currently he's 26 which is the beginning

00:29:57.900 --> 00:30:00.599
of his prime he can play on either wing so he's

00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:02.819
very versatile and then they got him for a good

00:30:02.819 --> 00:30:05.339
fee so in if you look at that I think it's a

00:30:05.339 --> 00:30:07.640
pretty good transfer it is a good transfer I

00:30:07.640 --> 00:30:10.720
think overall, I don't think, like you said,

00:30:10.740 --> 00:30:12.859
with Haaland in the team, are they going to drop

00:30:12.859 --> 00:30:15.420
him? Because I think both of them together might

00:30:15.420 --> 00:30:18.039
affect the dynamics a bit because, like you said,

00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:19.640
the third winger is going to have to do a lot

00:30:19.640 --> 00:30:22.059
of off -the -ball work and a lot of... occupying

00:30:22.059 --> 00:30:24.900
space and creating chances because I feel like

00:30:24.900 --> 00:30:28.220
Schurke should have more responsibility on the

00:30:28.220 --> 00:30:31.000
ball and he can't really do that when the thing

00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:33.400
is to try create as much space as you can for

00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:36.279
Semenya and Haaland and then that it's like like

00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:38.200
you said if Haaland is missing the chances but

00:30:38.200 --> 00:30:40.819
they're only falling to him that becomes a problem

00:30:40.819 --> 00:30:43.140
if you have Haaland and Semenya who are both

00:30:43.140 --> 00:30:46.420
going to run in behind constantly. Our next transfer

00:30:46.420 --> 00:30:49.619
is Pascal Gross from Borussia Dortmund to Brighton

00:30:49.619 --> 00:30:52.470
for 1 .2 million. I mean, he's a Brighton legend

00:30:52.470 --> 00:30:55.769
at this point. So I'm usually very suspect of

00:30:55.769 --> 00:30:58.970
deals for somebody over the age of 30. We had

00:30:58.970 --> 00:31:00.910
this conversation before we started doing the

00:31:00.910 --> 00:31:02.869
podcast. When I say before we started doing the

00:31:02.869 --> 00:31:05.769
podcast, I don't mean like an hour ago. I mean

00:31:05.769 --> 00:31:09.089
like before the podcast. Since we've been friends.

00:31:09.789 --> 00:31:14.670
We've been talking about longevity in players,

00:31:14.930 --> 00:31:17.809
right? And I think Pascal Gross has all the signs

00:31:17.809 --> 00:31:19.769
of being a player that can play till he's like

00:31:19.769 --> 00:31:23.829
38, maybe even 40. Why is that? Because he's

00:31:23.829 --> 00:31:27.910
not particularly quick or physical. His game

00:31:27.910 --> 00:31:29.950
is mainly about technique. And intelligence,

00:31:30.210 --> 00:31:33.410
I think. And intelligence, yes. I'd say he's

00:31:33.410 --> 00:31:36.789
less talented, but in the same kind of profile

00:31:36.789 --> 00:31:41.049
as Luka Modric. Getting him in for a little over

00:31:41.049 --> 00:31:43.069
a million is good business in my eyes. And I

00:31:43.069 --> 00:31:47.630
think, yeah, he's a Brighton legend. I guess

00:31:47.630 --> 00:31:50.910
they're in a bit of a, I don't know what the

00:31:50.910 --> 00:31:54.250
term is, but a period, a transition period where

00:31:54.250 --> 00:31:56.789
they've come out of being a European -level club

00:31:56.789 --> 00:32:00.210
and now they're sitting in mid -table. Nostalgia

00:32:00.210 --> 00:32:03.150
can be good. I think when Arsenal signed back

00:32:03.150 --> 00:32:06.710
Thierry Henry for six months, the club was in

00:32:06.710 --> 00:32:08.559
doom and gloom at the time. And for a little

00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:10.920
while, everyone felt better, you know. So it's

00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:13.019
a good signing for me for Brighton to get back

00:32:13.019 --> 00:32:16.819
a club legend. He wasn't playing much. Next,

00:32:17.740 --> 00:32:21.000
we have Jorgen Strand Larsson from Wolves to

00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:24.380
Crystal Palace for 48 million. Last season, he

00:32:24.380 --> 00:32:28.220
had 40 goals and 4 assists. This season, he has

00:32:28.220 --> 00:32:31.420
1 goal and 1 assist. I mean, Wolves have been

00:32:31.420 --> 00:32:34.480
atrocious. Yeah, so I think they're more looking

00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:39.029
at his previous record. you know for future outcomes

00:32:39.029 --> 00:32:42.289
instead of this season because uh they view it

00:32:42.289 --> 00:32:45.569
as an outlier i mean yeah it could be last season

00:32:45.569 --> 00:32:48.230
he was very good i think he has a very much a

00:32:48.230 --> 00:32:50.950
traditional striker profile maybe like he's a

00:32:50.950 --> 00:32:53.430
bit of a throwback old school number nine so

00:32:53.430 --> 00:32:57.220
i i liked him last season When we played Wolves

00:32:57.220 --> 00:33:00.160
this season, he was very good. He gave us a lot

00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.700
of problems. So I think it's a good signing.

00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:06.940
48 million, I don't think it's what Crystal Palace

00:33:06.940 --> 00:33:09.599
need right now. And given everything that's happening

00:33:09.599 --> 00:33:12.400
with that club off the pitch, I don't think they

00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:14.339
should have thrown that much at a signing without

00:33:14.339 --> 00:33:16.500
being sure of how they're going to go forward.

00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:20.269
Yeah, I would say... 14 goals last season, plus

00:33:20.269 --> 00:33:23.089
the fact that he's 25, makes 48 million look

00:33:23.089 --> 00:33:25.089
like a reasonable fee. He's obviously not the

00:33:25.089 --> 00:33:27.150
finished article, but Palace will be hoping that

00:33:27.150 --> 00:33:30.410
Glasner and whoever the future coaches will coach

00:33:30.410 --> 00:33:32.789
him into being a top striker. It's crazy that

00:33:32.789 --> 00:33:35.710
we've, just as a side note, got to the days where

00:33:35.710 --> 00:33:39.470
48 million is a reasonable fee for a team like

00:33:39.470 --> 00:33:43.980
Crystal Palace. What is it? 10 million more 20

00:33:43.980 --> 00:33:48.140
years ago, 25 years ago, got you Kaká and Zinedine

00:33:48.140 --> 00:33:51.440
Zidane. Yeah. I was going to say 50 million is

00:33:51.440 --> 00:33:53.980
what we sold Torres to Chelsea for. And that

00:33:53.980 --> 00:33:56.880
was like one of the ripoffs of the century at

00:33:56.880 --> 00:34:00.819
the time. Yeah. So, yeah, I think it's a good

00:34:00.819 --> 00:34:03.299
transfer. Any other thoughts? I mean, yeah, I

00:34:03.299 --> 00:34:05.799
think it's a good transfer as well. I think it

00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:08.980
depends. Like, what's Crystal Palace's direction?

00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:10.880
Are they going to play the type of football that

00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:13.480
suits him? Because if they get in a coach that

00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:15.199
doesn't play to his strengths, it could also

00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:17.699
be a big knock for a club like that. So, time

00:34:17.699 --> 00:34:19.940
will tell. Okay, I didn't write this down, but

00:34:19.940 --> 00:34:22.599
I would say also the other side of this transfer

00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:25.300
is that John Philippe Petetto was supposed to

00:34:25.300 --> 00:34:28.699
leave Crystal Palace. He tried everything he

00:34:28.699 --> 00:34:31.940
could. His transfer for... fell through. So,

00:34:32.059 --> 00:34:35.460
now both he and Stradlarsson are both strikers

00:34:35.460 --> 00:34:38.739
at Palace. And it's unclear how they're going

00:34:38.739 --> 00:34:42.300
to move forward. Well, I mean, it's like weird.

00:34:42.340 --> 00:34:46.179
They both, in a way, remind me of Giroud. They're

00:34:46.179 --> 00:34:49.519
very similar to a Giroud type of player. So,

00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:52.699
I don't think either of them are going to necessarily

00:34:52.699 --> 00:34:56.019
be world -class players, but I do think at a

00:34:56.019 --> 00:34:58.639
club like Crystal Palace they can. elevate a

00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:01.880
team like I would take Mateta as a backup I really

00:35:01.880 --> 00:35:04.179
liked him last season I thought like when we

00:35:04.179 --> 00:35:06.099
played him in the games I watched him against

00:35:06.099 --> 00:35:08.619
Man City against you guys he seemed very threatening

00:35:08.619 --> 00:35:11.420
and at the start of the season when he did start

00:35:11.420 --> 00:35:15.420
29 years old yeah that's the thing Giroud went

00:35:15.420 --> 00:35:18.159
to Chelsea at 31 Help them win the Champions

00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:21.059
League. Fair enough. Fair enough. Did he? Yeah.

00:35:21.300 --> 00:35:23.559
Are you sure? Did he come? No, he came after

00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:24.760
they won the Champions League. You're right.

00:35:24.820 --> 00:35:26.800
Sorry. I was getting him confused with David

00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:30.420
Luiz. David Luiz, who was... Okay, whatever the

00:35:30.420 --> 00:35:34.420
case is, our next story or next transfer is Brendan

00:35:34.420 --> 00:35:37.400
Johnson from Spurs to Crystal Palace for 35 million.

00:35:37.619 --> 00:35:40.480
What do you think? I don't know. I don't fully

00:35:40.480 --> 00:35:43.199
understand the signing from Crystal Palace or

00:35:43.199 --> 00:35:46.420
Tottenham side because I think... He was one

00:35:46.420 --> 00:35:48.659
of Tottenham's only outlets for pace. I think

00:35:48.659 --> 00:35:51.139
when I watched them against Man City, they kind

00:35:51.139 --> 00:35:53.619
of did lack that electric pace. Even if he wasn't

00:35:53.619 --> 00:35:56.179
the best player, I think mid -season, especially

00:35:56.179 --> 00:35:58.639
as a club that's going to defend deep a lot,

00:35:58.840 --> 00:36:01.300
I don't think it would have made sense to get

00:36:01.300 --> 00:36:03.760
rid of him. And I don't think it makes sense

00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:05.860
for Crystal Palace to sign him. I just don't

00:36:05.860 --> 00:36:08.159
think he's a good player. Yeah, I mean, that's

00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:09.760
the thing. I don't think he's a good player.

00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:12.300
That's all that there is to it. Not even Palace

00:36:12.300 --> 00:36:14.539
-level worthy. I don't think he's a Premier League

00:36:14.539 --> 00:36:16.900
-level player. has the thing is he has scored

00:36:16.900 --> 00:36:19.460
in the Europa League final he has a lot of high

00:36:19.460 --> 00:36:21.800
profile goals next to his name so it looks like

00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:24.800
I'm talking shit when I you know say that but

00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:26.880
with all due respect I just don't think he's

00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:29.000
at the level for even Palace he should be like

00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:31.699
at a Wolves maybe yeah well I mean I can understand

00:36:31.699 --> 00:36:33.940
Tottenham's point of view for taking the money

00:36:33.940 --> 00:36:36.079
like obviously it's a lot of money but at the

00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:39.119
same time I think what's the trade -off because

00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:41.840
like i feel like they're gonna struggle a lot

00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:44.360
till the end of the season because he might not

00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:46.139
have been the best player but again he was the

00:36:46.139 --> 00:36:48.519
outlet that helped him escape pressure when i

00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:50.380
think they're facing so much pressure how long

00:36:50.380 --> 00:36:52.440
can that continue for the rest of the season

00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:56.460
like but does he play over ismail assar or jeremy

00:36:56.460 --> 00:36:59.800
pino or jeremy pino no i don't think so but i

00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:02.219
i i think i don't think pino will be there much

00:37:02.219 --> 00:37:05.280
longer all right next we have evan gasson to

00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:08.639
from Aston Villa to Crystal Palace on loan. Yeah,

00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:11.300
I mean, I didn't watch much of Cassandre, so

00:37:11.300 --> 00:37:13.420
I'll let you... I've only watched him a handful

00:37:13.420 --> 00:37:15.760
of times, but in those times, I thought, you

00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:18.239
know, he looks like he's one of those long -legged

00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:22.219
players, like a Pogba type. Don't take that as

00:37:22.219 --> 00:37:23.920
me comparing him to a Pogba. I'm just saying

00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:28.260
his body type looks the same. That's all I'm

00:37:28.260 --> 00:37:31.590
saying. Like I said, I've only watched him about

00:37:31.590 --> 00:37:35.869
three, four times. He has potential and Aston

00:37:35.869 --> 00:37:39.730
Villa don't want him. So Palace actually wanted

00:37:39.730 --> 00:37:42.829
to sign him before Aston Villa came in and gazumped

00:37:42.829 --> 00:37:47.429
them too. But then what would you make of Crystal

00:37:47.429 --> 00:37:50.289
Palace's approach? How are they building a squad?

00:37:50.530 --> 00:37:52.650
Maybe they have their next manager in mind that's

00:37:52.650 --> 00:37:55.610
been signed behind the scenes, but why would

00:37:55.610 --> 00:37:59.050
they keep Glasner there? It doesn't make sense,

00:37:59.050 --> 00:38:01.309
everything that's happening, and the transfer

00:38:01.309 --> 00:38:03.829
policy in relation to that. What do you think?

00:38:04.969 --> 00:38:07.409
A club shouldn't rely on a manager. I think the

00:38:07.409 --> 00:38:10.289
director of football should understand, okay,

00:38:10.349 --> 00:38:13.690
this is the way we play. We play an attacking

00:38:13.690 --> 00:38:17.489
brand of football. Once my manager goes, I'm

00:38:17.489 --> 00:38:18.969
going to bring in another attacking manager.

00:38:19.070 --> 00:38:21.210
I'm not going to go from an attacking manager

00:38:21.210 --> 00:38:26.989
to a defending manager. The director of football

00:38:26.989 --> 00:38:29.809
should be choosing the players. I understand

00:38:29.809 --> 00:38:33.170
that there should be some input from the manager,

00:38:33.329 --> 00:38:37.570
but... It should be like 60 % director of football,

00:38:37.650 --> 00:38:40.929
40 % manager, in my opinion. But I mean, like

00:38:40.929 --> 00:38:44.230
in this situation where the manager, like you've

00:38:44.230 --> 00:38:46.750
been outspoken about slot disrespecting Liverpool.

00:38:47.090 --> 00:38:49.369
So in a situation where the manager comes out

00:38:49.369 --> 00:38:51.269
and disrespects the club, shouldn't the director

00:38:51.269 --> 00:38:54.050
of football then be like, okay, even if we have

00:38:54.050 --> 00:38:57.679
to go with the academy coach, let's... let's

00:38:57.679 --> 00:39:00.719
move this guy out and get in someone else. Whether

00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:02.579
the signings are for the next coach or not, I

00:39:02.579 --> 00:39:04.760
understand that the transfer policy, perhaps

00:39:04.760 --> 00:39:07.539
they're signing players based on what they want,

00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:09.880
but I think they are based on the future. But

00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:12.619
it's hard to say because it seems like a lot

00:39:12.619 --> 00:39:15.179
of the players are still contextualizing within

00:39:15.179 --> 00:39:19.119
this current system. Okay, aside from that, Gasson

00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:22.800
is on loan. uh stran larson is 25 so he can still

00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:24.960
be sold on in like two years for a very good

00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:28.619
fee yeah uh the only one i think is brandon johnson

00:39:28.619 --> 00:39:34.019
uh i don't think can they can con somebody to

00:39:34.019 --> 00:39:36.639
get a good fee from but the others i believe

00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:40.139
are just good signings in that they can be uh

00:39:40.139 --> 00:39:42.460
what's the word moved on later on for a bigger

00:39:42.460 --> 00:39:45.380
fee yes not a bigger fee but uh a reasonable

00:39:45.380 --> 00:39:48.260
fee to recoup what they've spent yeah yeah that

00:39:48.260 --> 00:39:50.699
makes sense i'm just if they were spending like

00:39:50.699 --> 00:39:55.000
if they had bought mateta age 29 for 50 million

00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:58.969
i would be suspect because that's a you know

00:39:58.969 --> 00:40:01.369
if he doesn't work out then how do you move him

00:40:01.369 --> 00:40:04.010
on you're going to get a very low fee for him

00:40:04.010 --> 00:40:06.889
yeah i mean it depends what you're getting you

00:40:06.889 --> 00:40:08.969
know i think if you're getting like one of the

00:40:08.969 --> 00:40:12.090
absolute best players in the world it makes sense

00:40:12.090 --> 00:40:15.389
to go for 28 or 29 year old all right our next

00:40:15.389 --> 00:40:18.650
uh transfer mark wehi from palace to man city

00:40:18.650 --> 00:40:21.570
for 20 million yeah that would be the signing

00:40:21.570 --> 00:40:23.969
of the window for me the the price point i mean

00:40:23.969 --> 00:40:25.809
i don't know what his waitlists are i heard they're

00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:29.659
very high so maybe the the rumor i've heard is

00:40:29.659 --> 00:40:32.340
that they're close to 300 000 okay that's ridiculous

00:40:32.340 --> 00:40:35.739
like for for anyone like i mean he's in the top

00:40:35.739 --> 00:40:38.039
three earners at city yeah that doesn't make

00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:39.820
sense but at the same time i think they're getting

00:40:39.820 --> 00:40:42.039
one of the best defenders in the league for for

00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:45.579
20 million so it uh it kind of evens itself out

00:40:45.579 --> 00:40:47.619
well we've kind of spoken about this on the podcast

00:40:47.619 --> 00:40:50.159
before but just to reiterate what i've said in

00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:53.230
the past One, he played in a back three at Palace.

00:40:53.369 --> 00:40:56.170
I don't know how that's going to translate into

00:40:56.170 --> 00:40:58.210
a back four. I'm not saying he can't be very

00:40:58.210 --> 00:41:00.389
good in a back four. I'm just saying we haven't

00:41:00.389 --> 00:41:03.309
seen it. So, you know, once I see it, then I

00:41:03.309 --> 00:41:07.030
can believe it. Two, he's apparently homophobic

00:41:07.030 --> 00:41:10.210
because he wrote on the, you know, the, what's

00:41:10.210 --> 00:41:12.829
it called? The rainbow armband, Jesus loves you

00:41:12.829 --> 00:41:14.829
or something like that. Something along those

00:41:14.829 --> 00:41:18.090
lines. Implying that, you know, that there's

00:41:18.090 --> 00:41:20.389
something wrong and Jesus loves you because.

00:41:20.519 --> 00:41:22.860
there's something wrong uh but whatever the case

00:41:22.860 --> 00:41:25.619
is uh that's the reasons i didn't want him to

00:41:25.619 --> 00:41:27.800
come to low pool so going to city fair enough

00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:31.239
i hope they enjoy him uh i think it's like it's

00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:33.559
a good signing on paper but we'll see we'll have

00:41:33.559 --> 00:41:36.380
to see uh we'll have to see how it pans out yes

00:41:36.380 --> 00:41:38.780
i guess like he's a he's a ball player right

00:41:38.780 --> 00:41:42.139
yeah i mean a ball playing center back i should

00:41:42.139 --> 00:41:44.500
say so i think he would be the john stones replacement

00:41:44.500 --> 00:41:49.710
long term i do i mean yeah i guess uh in an ideological

00:41:49.710 --> 00:41:52.150
sense if if they were going to move stones on

00:41:52.150 --> 00:41:54.170
that well i mean he's going to retire soon he's

00:41:54.170 --> 00:41:55.969
like in his studies yeah but i mean i think he

00:41:55.969 --> 00:41:59.070
probably has another season or two in the man

00:41:59.070 --> 00:42:02.070
city team so my question is that i always thought

00:42:02.070 --> 00:42:05.050
that uh vario was gonna i didn't see him as a

00:42:05.050 --> 00:42:07.329
as a fullback forever because i think he's one

00:42:07.329 --> 00:42:09.409
of the best center back profiles in the world

00:42:09.409 --> 00:42:12.969
so signing two of the best profiles in that position

00:42:12.969 --> 00:42:16.159
at the same time i think That would be a critique

00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:18.219
if you're planning on turning Vardyol into a

00:42:18.219 --> 00:42:20.840
left back. I don't think that's... I think you

00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:22.679
lose a lot from him in that sense. And I think

00:42:22.679 --> 00:42:24.500
he has a higher ceiling than Gueye at centre

00:42:24.500 --> 00:42:26.320
back. So I don't know how they'll work around

00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:29.219
that. Our next transfer is Oscar Bob from Man

00:42:29.219 --> 00:42:32.170
City to Fulham for $27 million. I like Oscar

00:42:32.170 --> 00:42:36.829
Bob. I love Oscar Bob. When I found out he was

00:42:36.829 --> 00:42:38.389
for sale, I thought, obviously, they're not going

00:42:38.389 --> 00:42:42.030
to sell to us. But I would have wanted him. Top

00:42:42.030 --> 00:42:47.710
player. I saw his first couple of games, and

00:42:47.710 --> 00:42:49.829
I was just immediately taken by him. And then

00:42:49.829 --> 00:42:51.889
after about three, four games, he breaks his

00:42:51.889 --> 00:42:54.829
leg. And then he takes a long time to get back.

00:42:54.849 --> 00:42:56.670
And when he does, he's just not the same player.

00:42:57.039 --> 00:43:01.199
I mean, what is the, like, I guess, what is the

00:43:01.199 --> 00:43:03.280
patience level a coach has with the player? Obviously,

00:43:03.380 --> 00:43:05.079
at Man City, you can't really have that level

00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.179
of patience to allow him to develop. But we saw

00:43:07.179 --> 00:43:10.340
with Aaron Ramsey, he eventually became, he hit

00:43:10.340 --> 00:43:12.980
his potential after all these injuries. I'm a

00:43:12.980 --> 00:43:16.780
big fan of sale, but with a buyback. Yeah, me

00:43:16.780 --> 00:43:19.960
too, honestly. I like those conditions. Because

00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:24.260
you can go off and develop. If you develop good,

00:43:24.380 --> 00:43:26.530
we'll get you back. If not... you know, carry

00:43:26.530 --> 00:43:30.110
on. Yeah, I mean, he falls into, like, the same

00:43:30.110 --> 00:43:32.309
bracket as Smith Rowe, like, when he signed for

00:43:32.309 --> 00:43:34.610
Fulham, I think. It's, like, top player, but

00:43:34.610 --> 00:43:37.570
the injury record, the way the team is performing,

00:43:37.769 --> 00:43:40.070
it makes sense for him to go somewhere where

00:43:40.070 --> 00:43:44.630
he can develop better. Do you think Marco Silva's

00:43:44.630 --> 00:43:48.550
the right coach to develop him? No. Unfortunately,

00:43:48.670 --> 00:43:52.050
I don't remember a winger that he's improved

00:43:52.050 --> 00:43:57.079
at all. Can you think of somebody? No, I don't.

00:43:57.199 --> 00:44:00.780
He gets a lot out of workman -like wingers, not

00:44:00.780 --> 00:44:05.059
the exciting, really fast, tricky wingers. That's

00:44:05.059 --> 00:44:07.699
not who he prefers. I remember him having Willian

00:44:07.699 --> 00:44:10.219
and somebody else on the other wing that was

00:44:10.219 --> 00:44:13.820
very boring. That's just not him, I don't think.

00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:18.820
We'll see how it pans out, but I think Fulham

00:44:18.820 --> 00:44:21.019
is a good club to develop because he will get

00:44:21.019 --> 00:44:24.030
a lot of game time. Okay. Conor Gallagher from

00:44:24.030 --> 00:44:27.650
Atletico Madrid to Spurs for 34 million. I don't

00:44:27.650 --> 00:44:29.869
like Conor Gallagher, but at the same time, I

00:44:29.869 --> 00:44:31.869
kind of understand the signing from Tottenham's

00:44:31.869 --> 00:44:34.630
standpoint, given that they really don't have

00:44:34.630 --> 00:44:38.110
a ball winner. I hate players like this. No offence.

00:44:38.369 --> 00:44:42.809
But it's not expensive. I just think he's like

00:44:42.809 --> 00:44:45.489
Jordan Henderson. He's a guy who's going to work

00:44:45.489 --> 00:44:48.960
hard. Run, get the ball, and he just doesn't

00:44:48.960 --> 00:44:51.320
have technique. He doesn't have that, you know...

00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:54.659
But it makes sense for Tottenham right now. The

00:44:54.659 --> 00:44:58.159
stuff that attracts you to football, like, you

00:44:58.159 --> 00:45:01.219
know, beautiful football, that's not Conor Gallagher.

00:45:01.340 --> 00:45:03.380
Yeah, it's not. But he did well against Man City.

00:45:03.539 --> 00:45:06.280
He did do very well, but that's what I'm saying.

00:45:06.340 --> 00:45:09.559
He's very workmanlike, very doing the hard yards.

00:45:10.900 --> 00:45:13.440
And I don't know, a lot of people will be like,

00:45:13.519 --> 00:45:16.980
how are you saying that's a negative? But to

00:45:16.980 --> 00:45:19.920
me, I believe that you can both have a player

00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:22.800
that does the hard yards and has technique. For

00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:25.619
example, Sabotslai. For years and years and years,

00:45:25.900 --> 00:45:28.099
they told me we couldn't upgrade on Henderson.

00:45:28.300 --> 00:45:31.699
And I said, yes, we can. And finally, Sabotslai

00:45:31.699 --> 00:45:34.789
came along and I said, here we go. He runs, he

00:45:34.789 --> 00:45:36.909
socks off every game, but he still has technique.

00:45:37.170 --> 00:45:39.809
And that's possible for every team. I don't believe

00:45:39.809 --> 00:45:44.190
that teams should be forced into playing players

00:45:44.190 --> 00:45:46.429
that do the hard yards and don't have technique.

00:45:46.710 --> 00:45:49.489
I just don't believe that. Yeah, I mean, it just

00:45:49.489 --> 00:45:51.630
depends on how you look at it, because I think

00:45:51.630 --> 00:45:55.349
what's the most accessible for a club like Tottenham?

00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:57.900
Because I think a player who's that complete

00:45:57.900 --> 00:46:00.860
is usually going to cost a lot of money and are

00:46:00.860 --> 00:46:02.380
they going to want to go to Tottenham? That's

00:46:02.380 --> 00:46:05.559
true. That's true. You caught me there. Because

00:46:05.559 --> 00:46:07.880
that's the thing. If it was Tottenham, maybe

00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:10.340
in the Pochettino days, the signing wouldn't

00:46:10.340 --> 00:46:12.380
have made sense because you're trying to elevate

00:46:12.380 --> 00:46:15.360
a midfield that was already one of the best in

00:46:15.360 --> 00:46:18.960
Europe at that time. So it's like now you're

00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:22.159
coming into a midfield where arguably the best

00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:26.579
midfielder right now is... Well, I mean, I think

00:46:26.579 --> 00:46:30.219
Bergweil would probably be the best. For me,

00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:33.500
it's like the two guys with potential or the

00:46:33.500 --> 00:46:35.880
biggest ceiling in my mind is Archie Gray and

00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:38.300
Bergweil. But now Archie Gray is being played

00:46:38.300 --> 00:46:40.579
at right back. He's been played in holding midfield.

00:46:40.739 --> 00:46:41.900
Gray has been messed around. He's dropped into

00:46:41.900 --> 00:46:43.920
left back. It's very unfortunate. because he

00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:46.659
was like uh when he came up from the championship

00:46:46.659 --> 00:46:49.280
uh i mean he didn't come up as in got promoted

00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:52.019
he was bought from the championship when he came

00:46:52.019 --> 00:46:54.559
up he was like touted as this very good defensive

00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:57.519
midfielder that can play the ball from from deep

00:46:57.519 --> 00:47:02.099
uh like a an adam wharton type yeah so he came

00:47:02.099 --> 00:47:05.099
up with the same kind of reputation as like calvin

00:47:05.099 --> 00:47:08.739
phillips i guess yeah so imagine having that

00:47:08.739 --> 00:47:11.400
profile in your team and just misusing him totally

00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:13.909
misusing him it would just be a A damn shame,

00:47:14.010 --> 00:47:16.889
in my opinion, which is what's happening. So

00:47:16.889 --> 00:47:20.010
I think slotting into that midfield, maybe like

00:47:20.010 --> 00:47:22.570
where you have someone like Bergweil who you

00:47:22.570 --> 00:47:24.849
need to get more out of. Right now, I think it's

00:47:24.849 --> 00:47:26.730
a good signing for them. I'd still put it in

00:47:26.730 --> 00:47:28.650
the good signing thing because I think what he

00:47:28.650 --> 00:47:30.630
showed against Man City is that he can win the

00:47:30.630 --> 00:47:32.909
ball. And if he's tactically disciplined enough

00:47:32.909 --> 00:47:35.389
to just lay it off, like you said, your problem

00:47:35.389 --> 00:47:37.670
with Henderson was that he took on too much responsibility

00:47:37.670 --> 00:47:41.570
and you try absurd things or he overhit the ball

00:47:41.570 --> 00:47:45.090
one -on -one. I think with a player like that,

00:47:45.210 --> 00:47:48.329
perhaps the way you guys opened up the pitch

00:47:48.329 --> 00:47:50.750
to Henderson meant that the decisions he had

00:47:50.750 --> 00:47:53.230
to make were a lot more out of his skill range.

00:47:53.630 --> 00:47:57.289
I think for now, if you can limit Conor Gallagher's

00:47:57.289 --> 00:47:59.590
influence to just winning the ball back and moving

00:47:59.590 --> 00:48:03.030
it on, he can elevate Tottenham for me. And I'd

00:48:03.030 --> 00:48:05.530
say he's a good signing right now in the context.

00:48:06.170 --> 00:48:10.530
Lucas Paqueta from West Ham to Flamengo for $36

00:48:10.530 --> 00:48:13.519
.5 million. I've watched a lot of Flamengo this

00:48:13.519 --> 00:48:17.440
season, last season. I like Felipe Luiz. I like

00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:20.099
his approach to football. He has a very much

00:48:20.099 --> 00:48:23.679
a throwback approach. It's weird because he came

00:48:23.679 --> 00:48:26.519
out of playing from Simeone, but he seems to

00:48:26.519 --> 00:48:28.599
be playing in a very similar... When I watch

00:48:28.599 --> 00:48:30.360
his interviews, when I see him talk, he's really

00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:33.320
trying to... He's studied Saki a lot. I think

00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:36.480
that's the implement... He's trying to bring

00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:39.769
the same tactics back. bring like a more old

00:48:39.769 --> 00:48:42.750
-school version of high -pressing. So I can understand

00:48:42.750 --> 00:48:45.050
Paquetas, maybe he's thinking about the national

00:48:45.050 --> 00:48:47.030
team, maybe he's thinking about playing in those

00:48:47.030 --> 00:48:50.110
dynamics, maybe he's homesick, but I would have

00:48:50.110 --> 00:48:53.690
taken him at Arsenal. I just, I wonder if this

00:48:53.690 --> 00:48:56.409
ruins his World Cup chances or improves them.

00:48:56.570 --> 00:48:58.889
Do you think... I think it improves them because

00:48:58.889 --> 00:49:03.329
I think that, well, I don't know with Ancelotti

00:49:03.329 --> 00:49:05.150
because I don't know how he'll select his squad.

00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:08.059
But I follow the Brazilian team quite closely

00:49:08.059 --> 00:49:11.139
and generally... They prefer within their league?

00:49:11.739 --> 00:49:15.599
No, but Flamengo's players have had, so long

00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:17.880
as Felipe Luiz has been there, they've had seven

00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:20.340
or eight players in the national team. Oh, that's

00:49:20.340 --> 00:49:23.039
pretty good. So, yeah, I do think it could increase

00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:25.380
his chances because playing at West Ham, he's

00:49:25.380 --> 00:49:28.920
going to look shit right now. Well, he actually

00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:31.340
looked like the best out of a bad bunch. Yeah,

00:49:31.340 --> 00:49:35.500
but I mean in terms of how does he... How is

00:49:35.500 --> 00:49:37.699
he going to, I guess, force the issue of himself

00:49:37.699 --> 00:49:39.940
getting in above? He's actually already gotten

00:49:39.940 --> 00:49:44.480
a yellow card. I wonder who bet on him. Yeah,

00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:48.440
I wonder who benefited. Him. He bet on himself.

00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:51.639
This last story, or the last transfer, I didn't

00:49:51.639 --> 00:49:55.420
write down, but it's in my head. Jeremy Jacquet

00:49:55.420 --> 00:49:58.719
from, I think, Lille for 55 million to Liverpool.

00:49:59.139 --> 00:50:01.820
Thoughts? I mean, I've read a lot about him.

00:50:01.860 --> 00:50:04.449
I've watched. I watched Lille maybe two or three

00:50:04.449 --> 00:50:06.630
seasons ago I don't think he was there yet but

00:50:06.630 --> 00:50:09.710
I've heard him a lot of people say he profiles

00:50:09.710 --> 00:50:13.869
similarly to Lenny Euro so I think I do rate

00:50:13.869 --> 00:50:16.869
Lenny Euro's profile I really like a lot of what

00:50:16.869 --> 00:50:19.309
he has he obviously has to develop whether Man

00:50:19.309 --> 00:50:22.190
United was the right decision who knows but his

00:50:22.190 --> 00:50:24.230
other option is Real Madrid which is just as

00:50:24.230 --> 00:50:26.469
toxic right now so I would have liked to see

00:50:26.469 --> 00:50:28.829
him and Hoyssen next to each other though I think

00:50:28.829 --> 00:50:31.380
that The idea of them together is a very good

00:50:31.380 --> 00:50:35.659
back four. So I think Xhaka could work out. If

00:50:35.659 --> 00:50:38.679
he profiles similarly to Euro, it just depends.

00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:41.960
Is he the Van Dijk replacement? Because I guess

00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:45.119
Van Dijk, he kind of exudes control composure.

00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:47.260
And what I've heard about Xhaka is that he's

00:50:47.260 --> 00:50:49.900
a bit rash. Just like Euro, he has to tame it

00:50:49.900 --> 00:50:52.360
down a bit. So what do you think of it? So the

00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:54.760
reason I brought this up was not to talk about

00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:57.280
Xhaka. No, to talk about Swat. To talk about

00:50:57.280 --> 00:51:01.500
Liverpool. Yes, to an extent, Slott, because

00:51:01.500 --> 00:51:04.380
I think they have left him shorthanded. We've

00:51:04.380 --> 00:51:06.099
been speaking on this podcast the past couple

00:51:06.099 --> 00:51:08.980
of weeks about Liverpool need a defensive signing.

00:51:09.159 --> 00:51:11.460
Liverpool need a defensive signing. Gomez is

00:51:11.460 --> 00:51:14.460
injured. Connor Bradley is injured. Frimpong

00:51:14.460 --> 00:51:18.820
is injured. Kanate was on compassionate leave.

00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:23.719
We're in a very bad place. We have three defenders

00:51:23.719 --> 00:51:26.969
and two of them are left -backs. Not the best

00:51:26.969 --> 00:51:30.650
spot to be in. We needed a defender in this window,

00:51:30.690 --> 00:51:33.409
if at all possible. Xhaka is only joining us

00:51:33.409 --> 00:51:35.829
in June, July, where, you know, the next transfer.

00:51:35.829 --> 00:51:39.150
It's a signing for the future. Yes. So it's good

00:51:39.150 --> 00:51:41.030
that we're planning for the future. We got a

00:51:41.030 --> 00:51:43.550
young up -and -coming player that's, you know,

00:51:43.550 --> 00:51:46.309
looking very good. But what about this season?

00:51:46.469 --> 00:51:48.889
We're just throwing this season in the bin. It's...

00:51:48.889 --> 00:51:51.269
They're writing it off. The league is already

00:51:51.269 --> 00:51:54.230
done. I can accept that now. But we still need

00:51:54.230 --> 00:51:56.610
to finish top four or top five to get into the

00:51:56.610 --> 00:51:58.610
Champions League. And the way things are looking,

00:51:58.769 --> 00:52:01.269
it's like we need all the help that we can to

00:52:01.269 --> 00:52:04.909
get there, right? I mean, what would you think?

00:52:05.130 --> 00:52:06.949
It's like maybe they've had a discussion with

00:52:06.949 --> 00:52:09.989
Slot and they've decided to see it out. Okay,

00:52:10.230 --> 00:52:12.809
I was getting angry at Slot because we have a

00:52:12.809 --> 00:52:14.829
player. His name is Calvin Ramsey, who's our

00:52:14.829 --> 00:52:18.449
quote -unquote backup right back. He was actually

00:52:18.449 --> 00:52:20.610
bought in as Trent's right back like four or

00:52:20.610 --> 00:52:23.389
five years ago. He's never seen the pitch, not

00:52:23.389 --> 00:52:26.949
once. I haven't even heard of him, to be honest.

00:52:27.369 --> 00:52:29.449
He's been on our bench the season, the entire

00:52:29.449 --> 00:52:31.889
season, and slots sold him this window, or he

00:52:31.889 --> 00:52:34.750
got loaned out this window. So we actually had

00:52:34.750 --> 00:52:38.630
a backup right back that left as well. How bad

00:52:38.630 --> 00:52:40.690
do you have to be to not be given a single minute?

00:52:40.869 --> 00:52:43.050
Not that he's bad in that sense, but I mean,

00:52:43.050 --> 00:52:46.289
maybe it's like... Or is slot so caught up in

00:52:46.289 --> 00:52:48.889
his ways? Because he refused to give Kayser minutes,

00:52:48.929 --> 00:52:51.230
and we know Kayser is good. He refused to give,

00:52:51.269 --> 00:52:54.130
okay, Endo's not good, but he refused to give

00:52:54.130 --> 00:52:56.349
Endo any minutes unless it's like emergency.

00:52:56.829 --> 00:52:59.429
When did you guys sign this guy? Calvin Ramsey.

00:52:59.510 --> 00:53:02.369
Like I said, four years ago. Yes, I mean, but

00:53:02.369 --> 00:53:05.050
that means he's gone over two coaches and hasn't

00:53:05.050 --> 00:53:08.010
got any game time. So, they must be seeing something

00:53:08.010 --> 00:53:09.889
in training. Maybe he looked good when they signed

00:53:09.889 --> 00:53:12.050
him, then they said in training. This guy doesn't

00:53:12.050 --> 00:53:13.929
have, he's going to create a lot of problems

00:53:13.929 --> 00:53:15.849
if we throw him on the pitch, you know. Whatever

00:53:15.849 --> 00:53:17.630
the case is, he's just been here for so long

00:53:17.630 --> 00:53:20.050
and he's just never gotten a chance. So, yeah,

00:53:20.150 --> 00:53:23.289
so. So, more Sabozlai right back shifts on the

00:53:23.289 --> 00:53:27.559
way. Yes, unfortunately. So, this is what. I'm

00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:29.840
using this opportunity to point out that Liverpool

00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:32.719
should have made signings. At least one defensive

00:53:32.719 --> 00:53:36.739
signing, if not more. And it's very disappointing

00:53:36.739 --> 00:53:39.260
to see how they've thrown the season away. But,

00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:41.420
yeah. I mean, maybe they're thinking they still

00:53:41.420 --> 00:53:44.039
have enough. Because, I mean, right now, you're

00:53:44.039 --> 00:53:46.159
also going to pay over market value. So maybe

00:53:46.159 --> 00:53:48.039
they're saying we have enough to get into top

00:53:48.039 --> 00:53:51.119
four. Go as deep as we can in the Champions League

00:53:51.119 --> 00:53:54.260
and then blow the budget in the off -season again

00:53:54.260 --> 00:53:57.280
like you did last season. Say we paid $20 million

00:53:57.280 --> 00:53:59.980
over the top for a player. A player costs $40

00:53:59.980 --> 00:54:02.039
million, but we're paying a premium that costs

00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:05.300
$60 million. We're going to get like $120 million

00:54:05.300 --> 00:54:07.980
to play in the Champions League. But what's the

00:54:07.980 --> 00:54:10.300
guarantee that that player would necessarily...

00:54:10.300 --> 00:54:13.260
Like you said, if you're missing so many players,

00:54:13.380 --> 00:54:15.860
it's practically an injury crisis. You're only

00:54:15.860 --> 00:54:18.039
going to sign one player, probably. Maybe two.

00:54:18.329 --> 00:54:21.570
You also would have to consider the future of

00:54:21.570 --> 00:54:23.670
those players. Like you said, you'd have to...

00:54:23.670 --> 00:54:26.289
Okay, get them in on loan. It doesn't matter.

00:54:27.090 --> 00:54:31.550
You know, do something. To do nothing is to accept

00:54:31.550 --> 00:54:34.630
your situation, which is bad. I think they're

00:54:34.630 --> 00:54:36.230
thinking they're still going to make top four.

00:54:36.409 --> 00:54:39.630
That's the boards. Like, let's save the money

00:54:39.630 --> 00:54:41.949
till the offseason. We're probably going to get

00:54:41.949 --> 00:54:43.929
in the top four anyway. Well, they're in for

00:54:43.929 --> 00:54:46.349
a rude awakening if things carry on going as

00:54:46.349 --> 00:54:48.710
they're going. I think you guys might have enough,

00:54:48.809 --> 00:54:51.309
in my opinion. Might. You see, it should not

00:54:51.309 --> 00:54:54.789
be down to might. The amount of resources at

00:54:54.789 --> 00:54:57.469
our disposal, it shouldn't be a question of we

00:54:57.469 --> 00:55:00.269
might make top four or not. I mean, obviously

00:55:00.269 --> 00:55:03.170
you can't be 100 % sure of anything. No, okay,

00:55:03.289 --> 00:55:06.150
sorry. I don't want to jump on you saying might,

00:55:06.250 --> 00:55:09.219
but I'm saying... It is a question of whether

00:55:09.219 --> 00:55:11.400
we make it or not. And it shouldn't be a question.

00:55:11.500 --> 00:55:14.199
We should be top four every year with the resources

00:55:14.199 --> 00:55:16.980
we've invested, with the players we have, with

00:55:16.980 --> 00:55:20.159
the talent at our disposal. It's just not right

00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:22.059
that we're not in the top four. I think they're

00:55:22.059 --> 00:55:24.659
looking at it like the squad is going to balance

00:55:24.659 --> 00:55:27.019
itself out. I think in the course of the season,

00:55:27.219 --> 00:55:31.940
I think you guys have maybe the best chance of,

00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:35.329
I think... being the team to get the third spot,

00:55:35.510 --> 00:55:38.070
in my opinion, because I think Aston Villa are

00:55:38.070 --> 00:55:41.630
going to fade away in terms of... I'm just saying,

00:55:41.670 --> 00:55:44.010
I think as the season gets stretched, the size

00:55:44.010 --> 00:55:45.949
of their squad is going to tell. It's not a personal

00:55:45.949 --> 00:55:47.929
thing, even though... What about Man United?

00:55:49.269 --> 00:55:51.900
Yeah, I think... You guys and Man United will

00:55:51.900 --> 00:55:54.760
take those spots. I don't see Chelsea being consistent

00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:58.800
enough defensively especially to compete. I think

00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:01.599
the expectation of you guys is so high that obviously

00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:03.699
last season you guys were one of the best teams

00:56:03.699 --> 00:56:05.940
in the world. So it's like the fall off is now.

00:56:06.489 --> 00:56:09.210
appearing more significant because it's like

00:56:09.210 --> 00:56:11.389
people are saying that oh last season we were

00:56:11.389 --> 00:56:13.730
the best team so you're saying you're saying

00:56:13.730 --> 00:56:16.090
the table was lying and we should have been second

00:56:16.090 --> 00:56:20.190
or third last year so can i just uh yeah let

00:56:20.190 --> 00:56:22.710
me just work this out see if you agree so we

00:56:22.710 --> 00:56:24.409
should have finished maybe second or third last

00:56:24.409 --> 00:56:27.730
year so us finishing fifth going from third to

00:56:27.730 --> 00:56:30.329
fifth isn't the shock that going from first to

00:56:30.329 --> 00:56:33.579
fifth is Yeah. No, no, that's not what I'm saying.

00:56:33.659 --> 00:56:36.539
I think it is a disappointing season. I think

00:56:36.539 --> 00:56:39.039
if they've had a board meeting internally, they've

00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:41.239
discussed that. But I think they've discussed

00:56:41.239 --> 00:56:43.980
it like, okay, let's plan around the summer.

00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:46.139
Maybe Slot's going to be here, maybe he's not.

00:56:46.199 --> 00:56:48.059
That's what they're thinking. So I think they're

00:56:48.059 --> 00:56:50.780
saying, whether he's here or not, let's keep

00:56:50.780 --> 00:56:53.079
the budget for the offseason because I think

00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:54.900
we're going to have enough to finish in the top

00:56:54.900 --> 00:56:56.639
three or four this season. And I think you guys

00:56:56.639 --> 00:56:59.820
will, honestly. Well... I think we're done here.

00:56:59.940 --> 00:57:01.880
Do you have any other transfers you want to bring

00:57:01.880 --> 00:57:04.940
up? No, I think those are the main ones if anything

00:57:04.940 --> 00:57:11.030
else did occur. I mean, I guess I'm out. As an

00:57:11.030 --> 00:57:13.289
Arsenal fan, I was happy to see Waneri go to

00:57:13.289 --> 00:57:16.010
Marseille, but then De Zerbi left. Did he leave,

00:57:16.150 --> 00:57:18.869
or did he threaten to leave? Yeah, I think there

00:57:18.869 --> 00:57:21.469
was a threat, or I saw something about he might

00:57:21.469 --> 00:57:23.530
be about to leave, or he's getting sacked soon.

00:57:23.550 --> 00:57:25.889
I don't know if it was confirmed, but I'm happy

00:57:25.889 --> 00:57:30.269
if De Zerbi stays for, I think, Waneri. De Zerbi's

00:57:30.269 --> 00:57:32.690
very good at developing teams, creativity especially,

00:57:32.869 --> 00:57:35.210
so hopefully by the time we get him back, he

00:57:35.210 --> 00:57:38.670
can save us a bit of money on maybe going out.

00:57:38.920 --> 00:57:41.519
buying an expensive player alright well thank

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