And welcome back to the PD Football Podcast.
My name is Presh. My name is Darren. And how
are you doing? I'm good, I'm good. Tired after
work as usual, but we keep going. How's everything
on your end? Look, I'm not going to pretend.
We've tried to record this intro like twice now.
This is fake banter for if you're listening at
home. But yes, what we spoke about was... This
weekend I've been going through the TV shows
that I couldn't get through during December because
I was going through Prestige movies in December.
it's oscar season yes and you asked hey what
is a prestige movie and i was saying um the oscars
are nominated in january so november and december
is the sweet spot for releasing your big movie
or not big i mean your oscar play movie so that
people will i'm not saying movies in like july
uh aren't gonna be nominated like i believe sinners
came out in july and it still got nominated right
uh i'm just saying the majority of nominations
uh come for movies in november and december so
they're fresh in the mind yes it's fresh in the
mind of the voters so yeah uh anyway uh yeah
so just watch my tv shows and watch the football
and uh yeah happy yeah that sounds like a good
weekend i mean The only things I didn't catch
up on is Pluribus. Are you familiar with Pluribus?
No, I've never heard of it. Do you know who Vince
Gilligan is? No. Vince Gilligan is the creator,
writer, and showrunner for Breaking Bad and Better
Call Saul. And Apple TV gave him lots and lots
of money to make a new TV show called Pluribus
on Apple TV. Oh, okay. Pluribus... I don't think
it's as good as Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul,
but I watch it and I wonder how much of money
was spent on this. Every episode is just like,
holy shit. They blew the budget. This is like
you could feed hundreds of thousands of people
on the budget of Pluribus. It's crazy. I googled
the budget. It's 15 million per episode. There's
nine episodes. just uh what 135 million is it
worth it does is the end product worth it in
your in in your eyes i haven't watched uh the
point of me bringing it up is that i haven't
watched it to the end i've only watched up till
episode six but uh it's really great and i prefer
that the money not be in the hands of billionaires
that be in the hands of creators who are actually
gonna you know do interesting things with that
money so vince gilligan uh He absolutely should
be given 15 million an episode to do Vince Gilligan
things, in my opinion. Long live Vince Gilligan,
then, I guess. Yes. You know, if you haven't
watched his TV shows, obviously this means nothing
to you, but if you do have a chance, check out
Pluribus. Strong recommendation from me, even
after just six episodes. I mean, yeah, a lot
of my friends are Breaking Bad and Better Call
Saul. Or amongst their favorite shows. Better
Call Saul is a top three TV show for me. It's
a comedy, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It walks the
line between drama and comedy very... Very well.
Yeah, very well. So I would call it more of a
drama, but yes, there's a lot of very comedic
moments in Better Call Saul. But this is a football
podcast. We need to get back on topic. First
of all, starting with Lead Zero Arsenal 4. So
unfortunately, I was out of the house and missed
this game. But based on the scoreline, I'm going
to assume that it was a fairly straightforward
exercise. Before the game, I did see, again,
I was out of the house and I couldn't watch,
but I was getting, what's the word, notifications
on my phone. The first thing I noticed, I was
told, was that Saka is injured. Yeah, he got
injured in the warm -up. In the warm -up, yes.
Replaced by Medueke. And Havertz replaced Odegaard
in the... starting 11. In the starting 11, yeah,
have it played the 10. So, I'm going to just
let you go ahead and talk about it. When we get
to the goals, I'll just chime in. What is your
analysis of this game? I think it was very...
It was a dominant performance, like you said,
pretty straightforward. I think Leeds have been
in really good form recently, so I never really
knew what to expect going into it. I thought
we'd win. I didn't expect us to be as in control
of the game as we were. I think the first half
was a bit slow. I think they kind of had some
moments of momentum in the first half. We switched
our pressing structure in the second half, I
think, went to like a 4 -4 -2 press and we kind
of just controlled the game in and out of possession.
I was really happy to have Havertz back. Honestly,
I think whether his long -term position is in
the 10 or 9, I think the dynamics he brings to
the team, the interplay, the link -up play and
the fact that he occupies defenders. frees up
wingers i think it made a huge difference madueke
i was surprised he did he did he did better than
i expected probably his best game in an arsenal
shirt all round i'd say so yeah a lot of positives
for arsenal we increased the gap so i can't really
complain i'd say this if i was complaining it
would be like nitpicky things like we still one
or two bad passing errors where like against
a better team could have got punished especially
playing out from the back but again a change
in the structure and all of that was controlled
i think yeah i mean set plays we're still good
at them i feel like Every set play feels like
an opportunity. We also have four set plays,
which is nice. It's like teams want to avoid
giving us them, but they struggle to. As far
as the game was concerned, I think a standout
performer would be, strangely enough, I don't
give him the credit all the time, but Jokeres
was probably the standout performer in the game.
I was waiting. Is today the day you give an apology
to Jokeres for bad -mouthing him before you even
watched him play? No, I didn't badmouth him.
Yes, you did. You said he's not good enough for
Arsenal. I would say I said I think Havertz would
be the better option, but I think both of them
can play together, maybe not against the top
opposition, because I don't think the games will
play out the same way, but in and out of possession
against the Leeds, particularly out of possession,
I was really impressed with them. He did a lot
of work. I mean, he tracked back a lot. He maintained
the structure in the press. He filled in for
the midfielders when they went forward a lot.
And then he got a goal himself and an assist,
I think. Alright, so diving into the goals. For
the first one, Madueke reloads from a corner
and Zubamendi adds home. Any commentary on that?
Not really. I mean, good header by Zubamendi,
good cross by Maduake. I mean, I guess the pressure
on the ball could have been better from a Leeds
perspective. But at the same time, I think they
were trying to hold their shape. So it's a hard
one. Just bad man marking Zubamendi, I guess,
with an easy header for a player of his quality.
The second goal is an own goal from the keeper
after a fizzing delivery from Madaweke. Yeah,
that was very much like a Rice or Saka delivery.
So hopefully, I mean, our corners, long may they
continue. Long may the trend continue from our
perspective. So you are an Arsenal fan, right?
Yeah. Are you ready to have an uncomfortable
conversation? About? Is Madaweke better than
Saka? No. Why do you say that? Because I wouldn't
think what would make him be better than Saka.
He's had better output and looked more dangerous
in the time that he's played this season. I don't
think he's had better output, necessarily. So,
like, say he plays five games and gets five goals,
where Saka plays ten games and gets eight goals.
You would say, okay, Saka has more goals, but
I'm saying the rate at which he's returning.
I mean, I don't think it's uncomfortable. I still
think Madaweke is a good backup to Saka. I think
if he was the starting option, I wouldn't be
as confident with him. Do you think perhaps start
Madaweke and shift Saka off to the left? I do
think that could work because I think Maduike
is not good at all from the left. I think Saka
maintains a lot of his dynamics on the left and
he poses a bigger goal threat running from the
left because I guess the duty of creativity is
taking off him a bit. I see. Then we get on to
the third goal. Extremely good work from Martinelli
on the wing. And he delivers to Jokers who power
zone. Well, not power zone. Yeah, I mean, Martinelli
did really well. Great cross and a good finish
as well. Not just the cross. He beat his man.
The guy tried to two -foot him and he just jumped
out of the way. Yeah, I did see. I mean, Martinelli
for me is like one of my favorite players. Just
that we'll have to see if he can hit the consistency
that some of his performances, like if, I guess,
for example, if he can replicate his performances
in the last two or three weeks over a whole season,
I think he solves a lot of problems for us. For
the fourth goal, you know, some good center forward
play from Jesus and an excellent finish to cap
it off. Yeah, I mean, that was very much like
a... One of the goals he scored when he first
signed for us, or in his early days at Man City,
a bit of a throwback Jesus goal. It was nice
to see. I hope everything's clicking at the right
time for us. I guess if there's anything I'm
still critical about, it's that we don't attack
centrally enough. But I think in time, if that
comes at the right time, as long as we don't
lose games, I'm fine with it. If we create more
chances than our opponents, there's nothing you
can really say. So are we done here? Yeah. Straightforward.
Yes. So Leeds versus Arsenal was the early game,
or like one of a number of early games, right?
I believe. Yeah, there was three games on, I
think. Then the next time slot. was Chelsea versus
West Ham, which I did watch. Chelsea 3, West
Ham 2. Oh, I did actually watch a bit of this
game. So, yes, this is the way I have my most
notes, because... I watched the second half,
I think. Jean -Pedro, sensational once again.
Well, we'll get to the second. Let's talk about
the first half. Okay, I didn't watch the first
half, but... Well, before the game... Liam Roseno
made seven changes to the team that came back
against Napoli in the Champions League, including
Cucurella and João Pedro giving them a rest,
right? So none of this was tactical. Roseno said,
I'm going to rotate, quote, I'm going to rotate
because I don't just have 11 good players. I
have 22 outstanding players. So let's put a pin
in that. We'll get back to that. The first...
Also want to say West Ham play the same team
as last week against Sunderland, except for Skals,
who was replaced by Duf, who just returned from
AFCON. Have you seen Duf play? Yeah, I've seen.
I've watched a bit of Duf, maybe like two or
three games. He seems to have a good delivery
on him. I was going to say, he has a wicked cross.
So that's what I was looking for. You know, like
a lot of these things, I'm just looking for in
terms of fantasy. Oh, yeah. I was like, he has
a wicked cross. West Ham are going to get some
goals. I should, you know. Monitor him for a
bit. And he hasn't gotten the output that I would
like, but he's really dangerous when I see him
play. And you know I hate cliches, but this was
really a game of two halves. Yeah. In the first
half, it was all West Ham, especially on their
right -hand side. This was because Chelsea's
left -back, Hutto, was inverting into midfield.
Are you familiar with this? Yeah. Do you know
what inverting into midfield means? Yeah, he
was joining the midfield play, leaving the fullback
position. Yes, so this is a relatively new tactic
that we've seen in the last, I guess, three or
four years. Yeah, I mean, there's people who
say it goes back older, but I guess it's been
used readily. I guess in the Premier League,
I should say. It's used in the Premier League
the last three or four years. I think it was
Emery who started doing it and then others caught
on, but whoever started it, it doesn't matter.
What's important is it's when a full -back shifts
into midfield, then the two centre -backs shift
over and the other full -back, it becomes a back
three. And that other fullback helps him out
in midfield. You have an extra man when attacking.
But when defending, you're supposed to drop back
into the fullback position. But Hato just refused
to drop back. And there was a huge gap at all
times on Chelsea's left -hand side, West Ham's
right -hand side. Yeah, I mean, I think generally
Chelsea have had problems even under Maresca
with the inversions a bit. I think it's always
like... the covering of the space was always
a problem they had. There's a difference between,
oh, I'm struggling to get back into position.
This guy wasn't attempting to get back into position.
Like, there's trouble coming down the wing. He's
still staying in midfield. That's what I was
so... Yeah, I mean, I think he hasn't had much
game time. He's still young. Not making any excuses,
but I think at Ajax, he didn't invert much. I
watched a lot of him at Ajax, so it's hard to
do something for the first time. in a real game
scenario. That's true. The commentator was blaming
Garnaccio for not tracking back, but I would
blame Rosenio for not instructing Hato better,
you know, in terms of inverting. Yeah, I mean,
it would come back to the manager because I guess
he hasn't played as an inverted fullback much,
so he would have to have some cover from other
players to do that for the first time, especially
coming up against, like, Jared Bowen, who obviously
is one of the best wingers in the Premier League.
I don't think he's world -class. I don't think
he's world -class. We got a Jock Reyes apology
and Jared Bowen propaganda in one episode. No,
no, no. Let's see what else we can get into it,
mate. Like, being one of the best wingers in
the Premier League means he's in the top five.
In my opinion, he's in the top five right wingers.
Doesn't necessarily mean he's world -class, but
I think it's one of the toughest opponents you
can face. So for Jor -El Hato to come up against
him in the first game and then have to invert,
it's not necessarily his fault. I still like
him as a fullback, as a profile. I think he's
one of the best young fullbacks. So roughly 30
minutes in, Rosenio gets what the error has made
and Hato drops back into the back line and the
other fullback, Gusto, inverts instead, right?
But the damage was already done. A cross come
shot from Bowen goes in. It like fizzes in. Yeah,
yeah, I saw that goal. Yeah, a really great goal
from Bowen. But it comes from the space left
wing because Hato was inverting, I should say,
and not defending properly. Also, despite this
change, West Ham were still getting joy from
attacking Chelsea's side, or left -hand side.
For West Ham's second goal, Bowen is running
at Hato and finds Wan -Bissaka in space. In this
instance, Garnaccio was to blame for not tracking
Wan -Bissaka, but he puts in a cross and Somerville
finishes off excellently. Every Chelsea defender
except Gusteau was ball -watching and not making
a move towards the ball. Badia -Chile was particularly
shocking. I was just really not impressed with
Badia -Chile. Also, a side note, the ref cam
gave us an incredible view of that goal. It was
really... It felt like you were right there.
It was really incredible stuff. The ref cam,
I like it a lot. I do like it. It's a good addition.
Yeah, I just have a general note here. It says,
Liam DeLapp is a thug. Is that just your opinion?
Yeah. This guy sickens me, bro. He's not getting
good service. And he's going around bullying
people, pushing them around. You know, like,
just a dirty shin kicker. That's all he is, man.
Yeah, I mean... I didn't think much of him when
Chelsea signed him. I didn't think much of him
at Southampton either. That's interesting because
he was at Ipswich. Was it Ipswich? Who was at
Southampton? Is there another Dulep? No. His
dad played for Stoke. No. Okay, I'm getting him
confused with someone. Yeah. Wait, he had a good
game against Arsenal last season, right? I don't
know why I thought it was Sunderland instead
of Ipswich. I have no idea. I don't remember
watching him a lot at Ipswich. When Ipswich played
a big team, I would see him, but I didn't think
it was worth it to buy him. Maybe he's just not
being used correctly. There's a lot of reasons,
but I just thought if you're getting frustrated
and kicking people, that's like, you're a loser,
dog. I hate you. Yeah, I mean... You're just
a Joe Linton. You're Ryan Yates. I thought it
was Southampton because I think we drew against
them last season. But I remember maybe we drew
against Ipswich as well. I'm not too sure. But
I do remember that he had a really good game
against us. And Chelsea signed him soon after
that. But I haven't watched much of him. So Chelsea
booed off at halftime. We spoke about this a
few weeks ago. It doesn't happen often in English
football that people are booed. Yeah, Chelsea
do it quite a lot, I'm led to believe. I think
Chelsea fans think they're the real Madrid of
the Premier League. Well, I guess aside from
City, they're the most decorated club of the
21st century. Actually, if you take out league
titles, if you're just focusing on Champions
League titles, Chelsea are the most successful
English club in the 21st century. Yeah. I mean,
it depends what you look at as success. I think
Man City were going to the semi -finals almost
every season. Anyway, so in the second half,
Rezegno replaces the entire left -hand side.
Cucurello for Hato, Fofana for Badiashile, and
Jao Pedro for Ganacho. So, like the three big
culprits. All off. All off. So, Rezegno's in
-game management, I really like it. So far. This
is the first match I've seen of the full match,
you know. We've been speaking about Chelsea,
but I haven't seen their full matches. This is
the first one. So, so far, I'm like, okay, this
is really good. And like I said, this was a game
of two halves. So in the second, these changes
wrestled back control for Chelsea. And, you know,
further on into the game, it lets Wesley Fofana
go forward and put in an excellent cross for
João Pedro to add a home. Two of the substitutes
combining for the first goal. Yeah, I mean, João
Pedro is, on his day, he's a sensational player.
Probably one of the... One of the best strikers
in the league, I'd say. A lot of people are saying
it's between him and Eketike, which I think it's
rude to discount both Haaland and Igor Thiago
who have... Had an incredible season. I mean,
I think... I think if we're just looking at talent...
alone, then... Eketike is comfortably ahead of
everyone, in my opinion. I was going to say João
Pedro is up there, but... I would say he's second,
technically, but I don't... Whatever the case
is, he powered home ahead. It was very nice.
Any other things you want to say about that?
I mean, I like... I haven't seen much of Chelsea
under Rossinha, but I like the aspect of his
man management where he doesn't blame the players.
So I think that's a bit different to Maresca.
Maybe that was the one thing I didn't particularly
like about Maresca, that he threw players under
the bus a lot, but that's just generally an Italian
thing. It's how they coach out there. I remember
I've watched some interviews of Saki, I've never
watched his teams, but it seems like he had a
thing of throwing even Maldini under the bus.
That's how you get the most out of them, I guess.
So at 2 -1, Nuno puts on another defender and
goes at 5 at the back, which is something I don't
like. To me, it invites pressure if you go defensive.
Especially when you have a certain amount of
control in the game. It makes more sense to me
to bring on an attacker to kill off the game
or a midfielder to get control. Bringing on a
defender, especially so early on, is very cowardly
in my opinion. If it's the last maybe 5 -10 minutes
to bring on a defender, fair enough. There was
like half an hour left and he brings on another
defender. I'm like, this just doesn't make any
sense for me. That's always kind of been the
new Norway, you know. Pretty much two minutes
later, they concede a header from Kukurela, another
one of the substitutes. It was a good finish.
Yes, a very good finish. Bounced off the crossbar
and then he met it well. Yeah, nothing really
to say about it. So Chelsea continue to pepper
the West Ham goal until the 91st minute where
Enzo gets the winner. Enzo Fernandes. Yes. Another
Argentine player coming in form in time for the
World Cup. At this point, I'm taking off my shirt.
I'm throwing it around. I'm jumping up and down
because Enzo Fernandes is my fantasy team. I
was so pissed off that I wasn't getting any...
thing from him and he scored the not the last
kick of the game but very late on and i was so
happy i was just fist pumping just uh what made
you keep him in i brought him in because chelsea
have a very good a good run they playing wolves
burnley and leeds i think in the next couple
of games so nice pretty easy run plus this game
here against Who do they play? Who are we even
talking about? West Ham. West Ham. Yes, so I
thought, okay, West Ham, Burnley, Leeds, Wolves,
that's an easy run, let's get in a Chelsea player.
But who to get in? Usually you would get Palmer,
but Palmer's injured at the moment. He's half
in, half out, so I don't want to... A bit inconsistent
in terms of his availability. Yes, so... I'd
prefer to get Enzo and he repaid my faith. So
yeah, the game ends in a fight when Cucurella
charges at Adama Traore and Traore throws him
to the side. This causes a commotion which ends
with Todibo grabbing Jaupedro by the neck, getting
him a red card. Did you see this? Yeah, I saw
the fight at the end. It was just like, I'm not
sure, who should have been like, I don't know.
It's like, refereeing is weird, because I think
João Pedro also threw a slap in the fight, or...
I don't know. I've seen people being sent off
for that, and then I've seen people being talked
to for what Tadebo did, so... I think... No.
He put his hands around his neck. Yeah, I mean,
but like, at the same time, João Pedro also slapped
someone and didn't get sent off. Okay, if they
didn't see that, I think that might be... But
with VAR? I don't... I don't think VAR even checked
that incident. Adama and Jao Pedro, I think,
got yellows. And then... Oh, so they couldn't
overturn it. I think so. But don't quote me on
that. If it is a red, I think they can overturn
it. If it's straight red. Yeah, so then I guess
one player should have been sent off of each
team. Could be. But it doesn't matter. It was
the end of the game anyway. So back to the pin
on Roseno's comments. What about him having 22
excellent players, right? Was it his genius substitutions
that saved the game? Or did he get it wrong and
the backups are just shit and the better players
came on and salvaged the match? I mean, also,
like you said, was it that I guess West Ham allowed
them back into the game tactically a little bit
in terms of maybe Nuno dropping off made the
changes look more impactful than they were? I'm
asking your opinion because... No, I really think
Chelsea were the ones who... Do you think they
would have swung it even with the back four?
I feel like they wrestled control. It wasn't
given to them, if I put it like that. On to our
next game, Liverpool versus Newcastle. Did you
watch this game? No, no, I was out by this time,
but I did watch the highlights. This was a late
game on Saturday night. Yeah. Tucked in in my
pyjamas. What did you make of... I guess the
inconsistency continues in terms of... You can
lose to anyone and thrash anyone or play bad
and then play exceptional. Or I don't know how
the performance was. Did the performance not
reflect the scoreline? Because when I watched
the highlights, it seemed like it was just one
-way traffic. Well, we'll go deep dive into like
patterns and et cetera, you know, topics. But
I think Newcastle were just bad. They were just
poor. So we walked over them. If I had to summarize
in one sentence, that's about it. They look tired.
Yeah, I mean, the squad is being stretched. And
Eddie Howe's intensity doesn't help either. So
we reverted back to... our regular 4 -2 -3 -1
after the 4 -2 -2 -2 experiment from the past
few weeks. Kirkees and Konate in for Robertson
and Frimpong. Frimpong injured. Robertson is
not tactical. What's the word? Kirkees was given
a rest midweek. That's why Robertson played.
So Kirkees is just coming back into the team,
right? And so it was support side right back.
Konate, Van Dijk, Kirkees. Pivot of Gravenberg
and McAllister. And then Wurz, Salah, Gatpo and
striker Ekotike. Newcastle played in a 3 -4 -3
against PSG. But changed back to a 4 -3 -3 against
us with several changes. But most importantly,
they didn't play with a striker. They played
with three wings up top. Barnes, Ilanga and Gordon.
I assume to break quickly and catch us on the
counter. That's one thing. And the second thing
is to press us as high and aggressively as possible.
Where a striker wouldn't be able to. Try to force
an error. Yes, try to force an error. To press
and counter -press us. I just have some... There's
not really patterns of play to talk about here.
Because I want to bring this up. Slot doesn't
have a system. And that's very frustrating. You
know, usually your system will generate goals.
Yeah. If that makes sense. Like, you know, push,
like giving it to a fullback and crossing in,
that's a pattern. You know what I'm saying? Your
midfield is breaking the lines so that a striker
can run in behind. That's a pattern. Once you
see that pattern develop over time, that's a
tactic, right? I don't think slot has any tactics.
I think he just puts, you know, a very creative
play in the 10, a good striker in the striker.
And he says, go do what you do best. You know
what I'm saying? Is that what you think? Somewhat.
Because last season, he was a lot more tactical.
This season, I'm just like, what are you doing?
There's a lot of times where I'm just like, the
team looks out of ideas. Unless there's individual
brilliance, they don't get a goal or... You know
what I'm saying? So I do wonder if this is...
Slot's coaching is... Just putting the right
people in the right places and saying, get it
done? I mean, I guess it's hard to say because
I think a lot of... And is that a bad thing?
Is that a bad thing, putting a creative player
in the 10 and putting a finisher in the striker
role and saying, do what you do best? I would
say it all depends on the rest defense then.
Because if you're going to give a team freedom,
how good those players are, how well they can
read situations. For example, I guess Ancelotti
with Real Madrid versus Ancelotti with Everton
was like night and day. And I guess the one thing
he had with Real Madrid was that the players
could be trusted to interpret the moments within
the game. They could manage the game themselves.
You had some of the best players in the history
of the game. It could be that slot has changed
over the two years. In the first year, he wasn't
so... you didn't want to give them freedom. In
the second year, he trusts them a little bit
more, so he does give them freedom. Do you think
the profiles justify that? Or do you think the
profiles justify... Because, like you were saying,
the one thing I like... personally about Arteta
at Arsenal is that I think the system carries
the players like more than the players carry
the system I don't think the players that's my
personal opinion I don't necessarily think Arsenal's
players I don't think Arsenal's players would
be better with more freedom because I've seen
a lot of them with more freedom not this particular
squad but I've seen the types of profiles we've
signed given the freedom and given structure,
they've generally been better with structure.
I think that's my opinion. So, like, do the profiles
justify Liverpool having or slot? Because honestly,
this Ekotike and Virth pick and roll has been...
It's changing my life because watching them play
every week is such a sweet experience. Yeah,
Ekotike is insane. Well, we'll get to the goals
just now, but what a player. What a player. So
before that, in the first half, Newcastle did
a layoff free kick, which we were speaking about
these past couple of weeks, and they nearly scored.
They hit the post from that, which I thought,
you know, once again, it's working. I just don't
see why more people don't use the layoff free
kick. But yeah, Newcastle's goal comes from Kirke's
not being tight enough to Gordon. Another example
of his poor defending, but it was also a great
finish by Anthony Gordon. So, you know, tough
to blame. It's 50 -50. It's like you're nitpicking
at that point. No, but I mean, if he was tighter,
Gordon wouldn't have the space to take that shot.
You get what I'm saying? I mean, I guess it's
also like, what is the player's interpretation
of the moment? Because it's hard to read the
player's mind. Like, I think a lot of times,
particularly with the bigger teams, the players
are thinking about the attacking move, even if
they are defending. So, Liverpool's first goal
is just ingenuity from Wurz and a fine finish
from Ekotike. Yeah. Wurz drifts into the area,
puts, not across, but like, what is it called?
Like, just a pass in the area and Ekotike finishes
off really accidentally with the outside of the
boot. Yeah, I saw that one. I saw both the goals.
I mean, both Ekotike's goals. Right, for the
second goal, we caught them in transition. Kirkes
plays a fastball into space, Ekotike picks it
up, and then he just does an unreal finish. Yeah,
that was the whole movement from, like, swithcing
his butt. Again, I think I watched an interview
with him when he was at Frankfurt. And he said
his idol was Thierry Henry and that's becoming
more and more evident every day. I don't think
that's true. Why would you say that? Because
he's 22. Yeah, I mean, you can still have idols
who are... Yeah, but that would be me being like,
oh, my idol is somebody who played in the 90s.
You could still grow up idolizing as a player.
I saw a video of him and they asked him, who
is your idol? And he said, Karim Benzema. Which
makes a lot more sense for his age range. But
I don't think... He said two names. He said Karim
Benzema and he said Neymar Jr. Maybe Neymar,
yeah. But I do recall him in the Frankfurt Day
thing. Maybe he did say that, but I also saw
this video of him saying Neymar and Benzema are
his idols. Whatever the case is, he could just
be saying that now because he doesn't want to
big up Arsenal. Could be. Could be, but I mean...
I don't necessarily think it's something where
you had to have watched a player play for them
to, from a playing perspective, be your idol.
I think a lot of players will be influenced by
players that they never... Messi's clearly influenced
by Maradona, but he never watched him play. Yeah,
but I'm just thinking his age doesn't correlate
with watching Henry week to week. He plays similar
to him, I understand that, but... Yeah, anyway,
you were saying? I think this in a coaching con
could have been made to watch clips of Henry
a lot. Okay, that's true. That could be the case.
The next goal, Florian Wurz. It's a very lazy
pass out from the back line. Gakpo not intercepts
because they pass it right to him. Gratefully
accepted it. He gratefully accepted a pass directly
to him. The stats were recorded as an interception,
but it wasn't. He passed it to Wurtz. Wurtz passed
it to Salah. Salah has no space. Passes it back
to Wurtz in the middle of the goal. Wurtz scores.
Now, is this a pattern where if a winger can't
beat their man to pass it to the middle and then
the person in the middle shoots? Is that a pattern
or is it showing that our wingers are shit? A
pattern would be if it's repetitive. It doesn't
necessarily have to look... I guess when you're
watching a Guardiola team, patterns would be
very much evident. Like, with the Ancelotti team,
they'd be less evident. But, for example, I keep
going back to Ancelotti because he's probably
the main example of a manager who's succeeded
while giving players freedom. Vibes football.
Yeah, vibes football. Well, I mean, I guess Arsene
Wenger, too. But, again, I... Ancelotti, yes.
USA? Ancelotti's the peak for me. But, yeah,
so... The way he got the dynamic between Vinicius
and Rodrigo consistently in big games, it wouldn't
necessarily be something that looked the same
from week to week. For example, Vinicius wasn't
always attacking the space in the same manner
against Man City as he would against Liverpool.
The spaces would be different, but Vinicius was
constantly getting runs one -on -one at goal,
no matter who he was playing under Ancelotti,
and he's not getting that now. That could still
be seen as a pattern, perceptibly, if you're
giving players. Like if you're saying the pick
and roll is consistently coming off with Wurz
and Ekitike, then it's a pattern that's developing.
The players are developing. Or is that just individual
brilliance? You could say that, but if it happens
every week, then the coach is a part of it. at
the end of the day it's like I have my qualms
with Arsene Wenger I think he could have done
better and I think at a certain period of his
career he overachieved so I think like the freedom
he gave Dennis Bergkamp and Thierry Henry made
them reach levels that they didn't reach previously
in their career because they were both regarded
as two players who weren't performing when Arsenal
signed them who were What is the word? Inconsistent.
Hadn't fulfilled their potential, yeah. Sure.
Back to the game. The final goal was scored by
a header from Kanate, which, like we mentioned
last week, he... Okay, well, there's a plane
going over here. Let's just wait for this. I'll
cut this out, don't worry. It's not just going
to be us being quiet and then a plane... going
overhead all right sorry we were saying um kanate
scored and it was a very emotional moment we
uh we spoke about it the other day but his father
passed away and uh i'm sure obviously scoring
a goal isn't gonna bring his father back but
it was a very touching moment uh the whole team
went over and hugged him And Allison ran from
the opposing goal all the way to that side and
gave him a big hug. Yeah, big up to him to have
the strength to play. I know if that happened
to me, I would be out for a month, months maybe.
And do you want to hear the disgraceful reason
he was playing? Why? Because we are going through
an injury crisis. And Konate said he saw that
we were in such a bad place and came back early
to help the team. Big ups to him. yes big ups
to him in terms of Liverpool but in terms of
like you should take care of yourself if you're
feeling grief or you know that that doesn't just
go for him that goes for everyone listening everyone
uh you know take care of yourself health comes
first you know yes you know it's a good thing
that Konate did for us uh you know I appreciate
that but you should take care of yourself if
you're not feeling right you know speak to somebody
right Are we done with this? I guess that includes
mental health as well, at least on that angle.
That's what I was speaking about. Yeah. But yes,
you want to speak about it? No, no, no. I mean,
we'll speak about that some other day. I'm just
saying I think a lot of footballers, a lot of
men in general, we're told to suppress what we're
feeling. I do it a lot. That's why I said, Kanate,
excuse me, not Kanate, anyone listening, please,
if you need help, speak out. You know, there's
people who love you. And if not, there's people
who care out there somewhere. Yeah. I mean, the
one thing I wanted to get from you in relation
to Liverpool before we move on is now you're
saying this whole pick and roll is developing.
Because I guess the question about structure
versus freedom, does... The first part of my
question would be what benefits Wurz more? Because
the last month or so he's been one of the best
players, in my opinion, in Europe, not just in
the Premier League. In terms of the chances he's
created, I think only Lamine has created more
in the last month. With Isak coming back in,
what's the dynamic with the three of them? Do
you think you can fit all three of them into
the same team? Or, again, like, Wurz benefited
at Leverkusen from a structure, but the entire
team was centered around him. And he didn't really
have to do much. The whole team worked for him.
So I'm saying, what do you think is the way forward?
Because you have three players that are undoubtedly
amongst, that will be in the next 10 years amongst
the three best players in the world. Assuming
that Isak gets back to his nominal form. So what
do you think is the approach Slot should go for?
Should he give the three of them all freedom?
We've spoken about this many times, actually,
off -pod. So I just want to let the people know,
right? I believe we should be playing a 4 -2.
excuse me, 4 -4 -2 diamond, right? In midfield,
we have Gravenberg, actually, new CDM. Just on
that, I would say that that's something Arsenal
did yesterday. We actually, in the second half,
we went into a 4 -4 -2 with the diamond. Not
the same profiles, but I think Arteta was trying
to narrow the pitch and bring two strikers into
play a bit. I do think, based on the personnel
that we have, that's what makes the most sense.
New defensive midfield at the base. We have several
eights that can do a good job in the eights.
McAllister, Gravenberg, Sabotskye, Jones. Four
players for two slots. I think that's perfect.
Florian Wurz is the 10. The thing is... How much
do you want the team to cover him? Do you want
it to be like Leverkusen? Because I noticed that
Leverkusen, I was watching back a couple of their
clips, in the week just about Javier Alonso to
get a touch. And it seemed like he didn't have
much defensive work except off of goal kicks
at Leverkusen. Other than that, the counter -pressing
of goal kicks, he was pretty much covered by
the team. He is deceptively good at grounds.
Yeah, he is exceptional. It's hard to get the
ball off him. If he's running to you and the
ball is in the middle, he's probably going to
get it. Not because he's faster. I think he's
just cleverer. In the way he uses his strength
and he has strong calves. When he plants his
foot, it's really hard to shift him. So to answer
you, I think he should be given utmost freedom.
An old school 10, given the freedom to just roam.
So he's the player that the team should be built
around. You know we were speaking about Guardiola
giving people freedom. It's only certain guys
that are allowed that freedom. And I think Wurtz
is one of those guys that, in fact, I believe
Wurtz was going to be the successor to KDB until
we bought him before City got in. So, you know,
I think that makes sense. But yes, he deserves
a lot of freedom. But Ekotike, the way he's playing,
it's like, do you even need a creator? Yeah.
He's making things out of nothing. Isaac, on
the other hand... He's only 22. Yes. Please.
Isaac, on the other hand, needs a creator. He
struggles without service in the box. So, I think
he's the one who would benefit the most from
Wurtz being free. So, you're saying... Isaac
stays on the last line and Wirtz and Iketike
have the freedom and creativity. Or I guess the
freedom of the attacking creativity. Well, this
assumes that both Salah and Gakpo, you know,
are moved on. Yeah, I mean, we're assuming Salah's
going to move on. I don't think he's going to
be here beyond the season. Yeah. So those are
my thoughts. Any other things you want to bring
up? no i mean just uh still like every week uh
he's becoming my favorite player in the premier
league so i love how jealousy makes everyone
i'm not i'm not like i mean jealous as like i
wish we had him in our team but uh in that that's
the sense for football um i couldn't be happier
to have another player like that you know like
when we're saying those sorts of talents like
like i really enjoy watching lamin and pedry
because they a bit of like players who can turn
the momentum of games on their own and in a lot
of ways because football has become more structure
based you don't have that anymore and i think
he's like a throwback he can dictate games on
his own especially from striker that's a very
uh unique trait i see him becoming more of a
like a an Henri type of player honestly like
I see him playing between the 9 and the 10 more
than being a pure 9 or like obviously he wasn't
signed as a pure 10 but his creative output I
think is very underrated that's something we
didn't see at Frankfurt but his ability to dribble
and pass with having better players around him
is becoming more apparent now alright so our
next topic is Man United 3 Fulham 2 now before
we speak about that I just want to say Do you
know who I hate? Who? That guy with the hair.
Do you know the guy? He's not going to cut his
hair until United win five in a row. That guy
pisses me off. Who is that guy? Is he a YouTuber?
It doesn't matter. He's just some guy. And he's,
no, you know what? He's an attention seeker.
That's what he is, right? He's not a proper Man
United fan. He did this when United were at an
all -time low when Ruben Amram was at the wheel.
And this guy, he just, apparently he's getting
sponsorships now for like hair care treatments
and stuff. And I'm like, and some, my cousin
said, oh, he's a marketing genius. I'm like,
no, this guy needs to get a job, get a real job.
I mean, he hit the lotto. This guy, I cannot
believe it. Get a job, sir. Get a job. Anyway,
my bad. I just wanted to say that before we get
into the analysis. Before we get a job ourselves.
I mean, this guy, I hope they win five in a row
so he can just fuck off. I never want to see
this guy again, bro. I hate him. If they win
five in a row, he's going to stay bald until
they win the next five in a row. He's going to
come up with something. I know it. I know it.
I hate that guy, bro. But, yeah. He's going to
shave his balls every day on camera. Anyway.
Yeah. So, it's not that I didn't see this game.
I missed the first half. So, I watched the highlights.
But, yes. Do you want to say anything? Nothing
much. I didn't watch the game either. I just
saw the highlights. Pretty much the same. All
right, so let's just talk about the goals. First
one, Bruno Fernandes puts a lofted ball in. Casemiro
hit his home. The talk this week is that Casemiro
is back. I hope they give him a new contract.
Bruh, it's Fulham. It's Fulham. Can we just sit
down, relax, and just understand that it's Fulham?
You know, they understand that they give you
a good game, but they're not great. This is not
a Champions League level club. Can we agree to
that? I'm not being rude or mean or anything
by saying Fulham are not a Champions League level
club. Yeah, I mean, I guess it was going off
the high that they've... No, I've seen this in
the media. I've seen people saying Casemiro's
back. Jamie Carragher apologising to Casemiro.
Yeah. I mean, he's a big name. I guess it's also
like the media is trying to get their views up
too, you know. I guess, but I totally disagree
with that. And they're saying it because he scored
a header. I mean, what would Casemiro being back
mean anyway? Because I think the context of Casemiro,
like are they expecting him to be a one -man
midfield? I don't ever think he was. Let's not
forget he played alongside two of the greatest
midfielders of all time. That's true. I guess...
In a big game, he needs to break some guys. Yeah,
he's a destroyer profile. Did he do that in the
Arsenal and Man City games? He was good against
us. Like, in terms of... I think he broke up
play a lot and he recycled the ball to Bruno
Fernandes. As much as he could. But the question
with Casemiro is what are you expecting out of
him? Like Bruno Fernandes, he's one of the best
midfielders in the world. But he's not Crusoe
Modric. He's not a one -man midfield. So Casemiro,
when he was regarded as one of the best midfielders
of his generation, played alongside two guys
who are capable of being a one -man midfield.
It's not the same. I don't ever think Casemiro
was like... this player was the greatest of his
generation. All right. The second goal is just
a fantastic finish from Kunya. Yeah. Second week
running. Nothing really to say about it. Just
when somebody hits one like that, you just got
to stand up and applaud. I heard in the Brazilian
squad, they call him the Englishman because of
how he controls the ball and runs. Oh. That's
weird. Kunya, huh? Who's only just... He came
to Wolves like three years ago? Yeah, he's been...
I think Ancelotti likes him or whoever was there.
Denise was there before Ancelotti. They seem
to like him. Alright. Fulham draw one back with
Raul Jimenez penalty. I don't recall... The highlights
don't show how they got the penalty. So I can't
say whether it was deserved or... you know, a
bullshit penalty or whatever, but Jimenez puts
it away with a plumb, and it's 2 -1. Thoughts?
I mean, Jimenez, I think he was one of my favorite
players before his injury, and good to see him
scoring. Nothing much else to add. And then Kevin.
You know Kevin. We all know Kevin. It's like
Madonna, Usher, Beyonce. Kevin. We all know Kevin.
Kevin. Kevin scored a wonder goal. I don't know
why I'm dissing him, why I'm making fun. But
yeah, he scored such a wonderful goal. Curler,
Lammons was beat. Actually, I should bring this
up. When Raul Jimenez scored the penalty, Lammons
gave him a tap on the back and smiled because
it was like, that's how good the penalty was.
I think this season we've seen a lot of wonder
goals. At least, I mean, in the last month. Speak
of, well, we'll get to one just now, but put
a pin in that. Yeah. And Kevin thinks he's won,
not won the game, he's drawn the game and Fulham
have got a point away at Old Trafford. Oh yeah,
both the last goals were scored in stoppage time,
right? Yes. There was like 9 minutes of, or maybe
10 minutes of stoppage time. This weekend I saw
a lot of games with 9, 10, 11 minutes. We should
be having that, because if there's time wasters
in this league, bro, we need to combat them.
Yeah, I get that, but I'm saying, why weren't
they doing it in the first half of the season?
Did they revert back to the rules they had last
season? No, I think certain games just have a
lot, certain games don't have a lot. It depends
on the ref, it depends on the dynamics of the
game, that kind of thing. Because the... Which
game? Okay, no, we'll talk about that later.
Yes, final goal. Bruno Fernandes really... He
wriggles through a... I can't remember right
now, but he gets free, puts in a really good
cross, Sesko controls it, turns, hits it first
time. Not first time, because he controls it.
He hits it, goes in, crowd goes wild. Yeah. Yeah,
I mean... Bruno Fernandes, what can you say?
He's one of the best players in the world. Magician.
Yeah. Very good player. But yeah, that's all
we have to say about United Fulham. Not really
any deep analysis. We both didn't watch the game.
I mean, three wins in a row for United back in
the Champions League spot. So if you're a United
fan, I guess good for you. Yeah. Then... Finally,
we get to the Spurs -Man City game. Do you want
to speak about that? Yeah, I watched this game.
I guess from a footballing standpoint and drama
entertainment -wise, it was probably the game
of the weekend. I wouldn't say in footballing
terms it was the best game. Well, you know how
I hate clichés. But this was a game of two halves.
It was literally. Literally, I think... Tottenham
were shockingly bad in the first half. And when
Man City went 2 -0 up, I thought this was going
to be 6 or 7. It could have been 6 or 7 in the
first half. That's what the halftime presenters
were saying. They were like, it just doesn't
feel right the way Spurs are playing. They were
trying to accuse them of not showing up. I mean,
the Semenya goal was shocking. First, the clearance
from Dragosin, straight to the feet of Rodri.
Then there's absolutely no one near Rodri. Rodri
makes a pass. I can't remember who it was. I
think Bernardo. And Bernardo's also unmarked.
He runs with the ball like three or four yards.
Absolutely no pressure. And Semenya's also unmarked.
So the accusation is that Arsenal are Spurs'
ops. Right? Yeah. So Spurs need to take a dive
against Man City to help City get at Arsenal.
Right? But they made a mistake by coming back.
There was too much momentum. They had too much
on their side. And they just... Okay, so let's
start from the beginning -ish. The first goal
was Haaland plays like a 1 -2 with Chucky. And
Chucky scores through the legs. Essentially the
same goal. that Anthony Gordon scored against
Liverpool. Yeah, a bit of a deflection as well.
Very much, Cherki plays it through the legs of
somebody, I think it was Dragosin? Yeah. And
he goes through. And, yes. Thoughts? I mean,
I think Cherki is a very exciting player, particularly
in possession. I saw he had a bit of an argument
with Pep. That he didn't want to get subbed off.
Or he was injured. Pep wanted to sub him off.
He wanted to continue. Then he ended up getting
injured. So. Yes. Don't. I guess just listen
to Pep. Then for the second goal. Semenyo scored.
I cannot recall the dynamics around it. But Semenyo
scored a very good goal. I mean. Yeah. It was
a good finish. But just like I said. Dragosin
clears the ball. Horrible clearance right at
the feet of Rodri. Rodri has absolutely no pressure
on him. Plays it to Bernardo. Bernardo runs with
no pressure. Passes to Semenyo. Also has no pressure
on him. It was like it would have been the same
as playing against no one. That second goal.
It was literally like a training drill where,
I guess, the coach was telling the defenders
to not attack the ball and not put pressure on
the ball. Good finish from Semenya, though. So
then in the second half, Thomas Frank brings
on, not brings on, Palenya was already there,
but he shifts him to centre -back. He shifts
him to centre -back, right? Yes, he was in midfield.
He shifts him back four, so yes. He was in midfield,
he shifts him into centre -back. I think Romero
comes off. Yeah, okay, yes, Romero. I think Romero
did come off, yes. This is bad analysis from
us, because I didn't write this shit down. Because
you watched the game, so I'm like, Darren will
know, it's fine. No, no, no, Romero is the one
who came off. Yeah, so he took off for centre
-back, and Paulinho at centre -back just had
an unreal game. I thought he was so influential,
even from centre -back, which is very difficult
to influence the game from there, but I thought
he was... Really good. I mean, he's like a...
So let's talk about Spurs' first goal. Yeah,
I mean, I guess that's the big controversy that
came out of the game, I guess, post -match. At
least in the interviews, whether it was a foul,
not a foul, on Gueye. What did you make of it?
No, I didn't think it was a foul. I think that's
a fair goal. Yeah, me too. That's really it.
I think City were just making a big deal out
of nothing. Yeah, and just the arguments in the
post -game threads and Reddit and stuff, they
were bringing that up. But the thing that I didn't
really see brought up, it was only brought up
in response to people, but Rodri should have
gotten a red card. He should have, yeah, for
those two yellows. He has the same Casemiro thing
that Casemiro had at Madrid where the referees
are allergic to giving them red cards. They can
get away with anything. Yeah, a bit like Joe
Linton as well. Nah, Joe Linton is just a thug.
Yeah, but how many times have you seen him sent
off for his thuggery? It's true. But I have seen
him sent off. The other two, it's very rare.
But anyway, we're getting distracted. Spurs'
second goal. Connor Gallagher does a strong run
down the... Not the wing, but the half space.
Puts in a cross and... Goal of the season contender
from Dominic Solanke. Olivier Giroud -esque.
Giroud -esque. Scores a scorpion kick in one
of the biggest matches of the season. Incredible.
Incredible stuff. I really... Yeah, and I mean
to beat Donnarumma, one of the best, I guess,
shot stoppers as well. Yeah, it will be hard
to find a better goal this season, I think. Yeah,
especially the context surrounding it. Yeah.
How much... It could be a major title... Swinging
goal, yeah. Swinging goal, yes. So, I mean, Dominic
Solanke, ex -Liverpool boy, what do you make
of him? I don't rate him. I think he's... I mean,
it depends. Do you rate him for a smaller team
or you don't rate him for Liverpool? Even at
Bournemouth, I thought he was just like a flat
-track bully. He would score against all the
smaller teams and then... the big games he wouldn't
he just wouldn't show up i guess he scored two
goals against city so i can't level that at him
right now but like i'm just not impressed with
him uh but that being said spurs results have
turned around since he's come back from injury
so maybe i guess it gives him a target man the
way the way frank plays it's a lot of long balls
to escape the press so they would be more dynamic
with a player like that in the team Tottenham,
though, what do you make of Tottenham? The contradiction
from their Champions League to league form? I
think, is there a contradiction? Or has the league
become so good that we're the Super League and
the Champions League teams can't compare anymore?
I mean, it just depends, though, because I think,
like... Because people are pointing out, like,
Jeremy Pino played for Villarreal, right? Valerial
are a Champions League team and he is now playing
for Palace who are like a lower mid -table team.
Yeah, I mean it all depends on how you interpret
it but I think it's not like they've had like
I think the teams that they've beat some of them
are still would be Champions League level teams
even if they played in the Premier League. Inter
Milan for example. I think Inter Milan are top
four team in the Premier League. Didn't Arsenal
beat Inter? Yeah. And we beat Inter. Yeah, that
doesn't mean they're not a top -four team. If
Arsenal, Spurs, and us beat Inter, you know...
Yeah, I mean, they still finished in the... It's
not looking good, bruv. Who else did they beat?
I didn't watch their run, but surely they had
to have beaten some big teams to finish in the
top five. Sure, sure. I just don't rate Spurs
at the moment. They're going through a bad patch,
but it's not just a bad patch in terms of results.
It's the gameplay. You know, if you're playing
well... And we can see you're playing well, but
the results aren't coming, right? That's fine.
You know, the results will eventually come. But
if you're playing poorly and still not getting
any results, I think that's sacking territory.
Yeah, I mean, I think Thomas Frank isn't going
to survive much beyond the season. I think regardless
of what happens, I don't think they're going
to get back into the Champions League next season.
Maybe they'll get relegated this season and win
the Champions League. Highly unlikely. Although,
I'm sure that's what you would want as an Arsenal
fan. I mean, not winning the Champions League,
but them getting relegated. That would be pretty
funny. Oh, no. I've said my most hated team is
Chelsea, not Tottenham. And also, for me, let's
say I'm speaking about Everton. Everton getting
relegated would be a disaster. Because we need
them. We need them to have a rivalry. Otherwise,
what are we doing? I mean, not what we're doing.
It'll just be sad. When Sunderland was in the
championship for so long, Newcastle didn't have
a rival. It's sad to be a big team with no rival.
It is. I mean, you need your rivals. Excuse me.
Yeah, so I mean, I don't know. I don't think...
It'll be interesting. I mean, I'm sure we'll
discuss it at a later stage. But to see what
happens with the managerial... merry -go -round
in the offseason because C. Simeone is also leaving
Atletico now. Is that confirmed? Or is that just
a rumour? I think it's a rumour, but the sources
that are coming out are usually trusted sources,
so we'll have to see. I'm pretty sure if he leaves,
he's coming to the Premier League as well. Okay,
let's get into the miscellaneous section. This
is the other games that we didn't have. time
to cover the main focus yeah so we'll just some
quick hits quick ah so quick ah right wolf zero
bournemouth two so uh by the way i've watched
the highlights for all of these i didn't have
time to uh um watch every game because they were
at the same times as the other so like these
games happen i think wolves bournemouth and brighton
everton were the same as same time as leeds arsenal
And Aston Villa, Brentford, Nottingham Forest,
Palace was at the same time as the United game.
So all four of these games I couldn't watch.
Wolves had all the chances but weren't clinical.
Bournemouth, extremely clinical. Kruppi Jr. with
an excellent finish and an Alex Scott tap -in.
That was the story of the game. Kruppis looked
decent. I haven't watched much of him before,
but since I've seen him at Bournemouth, he looks
quite good. Played well against us, came off
the bench, scored a cracker as well. So, the
exact same game state, but for the next game,
Brighton won, Everton zero. So, Everton had a
number of good chances, but weren't clinical
enough. And Brighton were extremely clinical.
Brighton scored against the run of play. Totally
against the run of play. Based on the highlights
I saw, it was just all Everton and then one Brighton
attack they score. It happens. So, yeah. Then
a 97th minute equalizer from Beto. And Moyes
runs onto the pitch and gets a yellow. Oh, yes.
Wait, I think I did see the Beto equalizer because
it came on the match pack. at the end of the
game. But I thought it was pretty disgraceful
for Moyes to get a yellow card for riding onto
the pitch, you know. You take the spontaneity,
the joy out of football, you know. Yeah, I think,
what is it, Deserby also got a yellow card. Klopp
also did. Arteta has as well. Lots of people
have done. But I just think it's a disgrace.
Whoever it is, Moyes, you know, showing a little
bit of personality, a little bit of, like, joy.
There's nothing wrong with it. There's nothing
wrong with it. And it's not like, you know, another
silly thing, I think, is a player taking off
their shirt to get a yellow card. Like, understand
if you have, like, they're trying to discourage
you from sharing a message underneath your shirt
or, you know, like that something may not be.
uh kosher like uh something political like you
may put on your shirt so they want to discourage
that similarly uh i don't think you should discourage
managers you know celebrating and being joyous
and like that's that's a part of the game that's
the best part of the game yeah i think managers
players i think it like people need to also think
of football as like at least from the fans perspective
you watch it like most people for an escape right
or like to to I guess something to to like give
your life some sense of purpose maybe but I don't
think everyone wants to engage with football
where it's too professional and it feels like
oh okay you're you're losing the the humanity
I guess from the game Aston Villa 0 Brentford
1 Aston Villa lose 1 -0 to 10 men Brentford so
Brentford Kevin Sharder gets an extremely silly
red card you know like when two players like
go down together and they're getting up he kind
of kicks out He kicks out at Matty Cash. Oh,
yes, yes, I saw that. And he got a red card for
it. Can't blame him. I would have done the same
to Matty Cash. What did Matty Cash do to you?
Scores against us every single time he plays
against us. Okay, whatever. Matty Cash... I'm
kidding, though. I don't condone violence. It's
just such a silly red card. Like, you're just
being petulant. That's all it is. Very, very
silly. Yeah, then... There's an extremely sleek
finish from Utara to win the game. And Aston
Villa, I didn't see anything from them in the
highlights that showed any fight, any vigour.
I mean, yeah, this is... You already know what
I'm going to say. Emery is a bum. No, he's not
a bum, but he's heading for fifth place again.
That's how his seasons generally go. I mean,
I don't know if it's a trustworthy rumor, that
one, but I heard that Real Madrid might be considering
him. I think there'd be a very stupid decision
from them. Okay, so we got a Jokers apology.
Something else we got, but we couldn't get a
good word on Emery, could we? No, no, no. I'll
give a good word on him. I think he's probably
one of the best squad developers of... taking
a team from a low level to the borderline of
an elite level, but he's not good at converting
it. Our final game... Well, this is not our final
game. Our final game is actually being played
two hours from the time of recording. It's tonight,
but we're not covering that. What we are covering
is Nottingham Forest 1, Crystal Palace 1. So,
a ball comes in the area, Palace didn't clear
properly, and Morgan Gibbs' wife finishes nicely.
I love Gibbs White. He's one of my favorite players
in the league, honestly. If I had to select,
everyone always talks about if Arsenal should
move on from Odegaard, I would select him as
my number one choice. Wow. I just disagree entirely.
We can agree to disagree on that one. He's one
of my favorite players, though. um so for palace's
goal nico williams handled the ball and got a
red card and gave away a penalty so basically
what suarez did at the 2010 world cup against
ghana he just played goalkeeper out of desperation
yeah and gave them a penalty um you would rather
just concede the goal than get a red card and
a penalty now you've given them both a goal and
to play against 10 men just a goal on its own
you can come back from But I guess it's like,
you know, instinct. Instinct, yeah. You just
put your hand out. You don't know what to do.
But yeah, Ismail Assar converts the penalty very
nicely. And yeah, that's all we have today. Yeah,
I mean, it was a good weekend for me personally
as an Arsenal fan. It was also probably a good
weekend for you. So let's hope things get better.
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