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And welcome back to the PD Football Podcast.

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My name is Presh. I'm Darren. And, well, how

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are you doing? I'm good. How are you? I mean,

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well, I'm good, like, on my own personal terms.

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Not good on footballing terms, but how about

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you? I see. I'm stressed from work stuff, but,

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you know, football brings me calm. Calm. Yeah.

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Not Liverpool, though. Not Liverpool, though.

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Other matches, yes. That being said, we are starting

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with Bournemouth versus Liverpool. And this is

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the first episode where we did some predictions

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last week that I put out. Yeah, I think I probably

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got everyone wrong. Yes, nearly. You said Liverpool

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would win 3 -1. And I said it would be a 3 -3

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draw. So both of us had it quite high scoring.

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So in that sense, we were right, right? Bournemouth

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set up in a 4 -2 -3 -1. But instead of talking

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about the players that are playing, I want to

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talk about who's missing. So Bournemouth sold

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their goalkeeper, left back, two centre -backs,

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and now their left wing, who are all top players.

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They also have eight players injured, including

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their best remaining attackers, Kluivert and

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Tavernier, and their captain, Tyler Adams, who's

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a CDM. So we set up in the same way as we did

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against Marseille with a 4 -2 -2 -2. And the

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fullbacks pushed all the way up. Extremely unfortunately,

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Konate's father passed away. So Gomez played

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instead of him. Oh damn, I didn't know about

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that. Yes, he also missed the Marseille game.

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Condolences to him. Yes. Up front, Slot dropped

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Ekotike for Gakpo. Slot said that this was due

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to managing Ekotike's minutes, but... On its

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face, this looked like a mistake because Ekotike

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is playing so well and Gakpo is playing like

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dogshit. And the match proved that it was a mistake.

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But obviously, we speak in hindsight. At the

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time, I can understand the thinking. We knew

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that this game would be played mostly in transition.

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So it would benefit us to have two wingers because

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usually wingers are faster than strikers. I could

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understand that from that point of view. But

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just thinking about it in terms of form, definitely

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a critique would have been better. Yeah, I mean,

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I think even as a winger, if he had to function

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there, I think a lot of his traits are better

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than Gakpo's. He can go either side, I think.

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Maybe he's still working on some of his passing,

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but I think... In any system, he would have made

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more sense than Gakpo right now, to me at least.

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Yes, to everyone at least. But also, our next

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game is Karabag, right? Karabag are fucking awful.

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Gakpo can play against Karabag. It doesn't matter,

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right? He's probably going to bang a hat -trick.

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It's not even a must -win game. Like, we could

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draw and make it through to the next round of

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the Champions League. But whatever. So he's managing

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Ekotiki's minutes for that. Yeah, so in terms

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of general play, it did play out exactly like

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we thought. It was mainly in transition, very

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much like a basketball game. It was just a case

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of who took their chances. Yeah, I mean, I thought

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Trist, you guys would end up winning it. That

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was just what my prediction was based on. I thought

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you guys were picking up some momentum and Bournemouth

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were conceding a lot of goals. Well, I did say

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after the Marseille game, we can't draw any big

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conclusions out of it because Marseille were

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awful. So, you know, you draw conclusions when

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the other team were good. That's what I think.

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But, yeah, in terms of Bournemouth's attacking

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play, if you recall, I said Liverpool's full

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-backs were pushed all the way up. So Bournemouth

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got their best chances from attacking the space

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that was vacated by the full -backs. But if you're

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new to football, this is what I'm going to refer

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to as the channel, right? So most especially

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on Liverpool's left -hand side. Van Dijk struggled

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on his own, and I also blame McAllister or Gravenberg

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for not tracking back and covering that space.

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Yeah, I mean, I agree. I think maybe some of

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it was them following instructions, though. Like,

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I think a lot of the times when players don't

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drop off, because it's not like Gravenberg's

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had a problem with that liticism or dropping

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off before, so I think generally it might have

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been a specific way they were trying to set up,

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maybe related for that. Maybe not Gravenberg,

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but McAllister is extremely lazy. He may have

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been told to drop off, but he just wasn't doing

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it because, you know, he was tired. Yeah, no,

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I mean, but he's always kind of... had that problem

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out of position. Okay, but yes. And this is in

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fact how Bournemouth's first goal came about.

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Senesi hit it into the channel and Van Dijk made

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a mistake. This unfortunate event also injured

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Gomez, which leaves us with only one fit centre

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-back in Van Dijk. Not looking good. But before

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the season started, people were saying, look,

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we're light in centre -back. We need a new centre

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-back. Gomez is not good enough. Canarte has

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a mistake in him. And Van Dijk is getting older.

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We need to do succession planning, right? So,

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Leone was a good signing, but Leone got injured

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for the season. Now, we definitely need to make

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a move right now. Otherwise, we're in big shit.

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And, I mean, you guys pushed a bit for Mark Gray,

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but... I guess no. It was overruled by Glassman

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at the last moment, who himself is leaving the

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club. So it doesn't, I mean, it benefited Man

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City. Yes, it benefited Man City and no one else.

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Anyway, in the time that Gomez was injured, it

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took us over five minutes to get Endo on to replace

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him. And in that time, Bournemouth scored again.

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Some people are choosing to focus on us not having

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11 men on the field, but I absolutely blame the

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players for it. Scott was shouting for them to

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kick it out, and he shouted multiple times for

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them to kick it out. So they just didn't do it.

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They just ignored him. And yeah, the goal itself,

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Bournemouth used the exact same tactic of hitting

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it in the channel. But this time, Kirkez is to

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blame because he allowed the man far too much

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space. Van Dijk is also to blame because he didn't

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maintain the line and that's why Bournemouth

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attacker was onside. There was a lot of space

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for him to attack. Yes, so again, two player

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mistakes. Yeah, I mean, individual errors are

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kind of the most frustrating way to lose a game,

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right? Exactly. Liverpool then scored two goals

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from set -pieces. There's nothing we can analyse

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or speak deeper about it, I don't think. Except

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that we fired our set -piece coach a few weeks

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ago and got somebody new in. So, good decision.

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Yes, because we've been conceding a lot and we

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haven't conceded a lot from set -pieces and we

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haven't scored any set -pieces. When we have

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two giant centre -backs who scored lots in the

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past. Yes, I mean, it was good to see Van Dijk

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on the score sheet. Yeah, how is it possible

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that, like, they just stop scoring? It has to

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be a, like, system thing, you know? It can't

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just be Van Dijk and Konate forgot how to stop,

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how to score, you know? Yeah, I mean, well, I

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guess, suppose, like, what, three free kicks

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this season? Well, would you count this as a

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free kick? I mean, not really, but... Because

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Salah passed it first. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I

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remember the roll -on, but it still technically

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counts as a free kick, right? No, it doesn't.

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It's only a free kick if you hit it directly

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from the... Well, either way, it was... Two free

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kicks. It was a good set play. Two free kicks

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this season, one against you guys and one against

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Marseille. That's as good as a free kick, though.

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Look, what I don't understand is why people don't

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do it more often. You know, the roll -on to change

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the angle. Yeah, it should be done more. Because

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this happened years ago, like under Klopp, where

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Liverpool did a routine. They changed the angle

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and you just see how much space opened up. And

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I thought, why doesn't more teams do this? I

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mean, generally, it used to be a feature in maybe

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the early 2000s. I remember us and Wenger's teams

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initially doing them a lot as well. Very strange

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that it hasn't... Sometimes I guess teams don't

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go direct as much, or if they do go direct, it's

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usually on the player. One player ball striking,

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I guess. Also, it can go wrong if the person

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backhills it too far. Yeah, it could be minimizing

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risk. Yeah, the backheel needs to be spot on

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and at the right pace for the guy to run onto

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it and hit it. So yeah, there's positives and

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negatives you can say about it. But yeah, then

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Bournemouth score the winner from a long throw.

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Again, another individual error from Van Dijk.

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He misses the header and they score. Not much

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to say. Yeah, not much to say. I don't know.

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Yeah. After the match, Slot blames tiredness

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for the performance because we played in Europe

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just a few days ago. But in my opinion, that's

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bullshit. I mean, I guess when managers are on

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a bad run, they generally clutch at straws. Well,

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he's correct that nobody else played Champions

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League on the day we played and then... Again

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on Saturday. And then again on Saturday. We played

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on Wednesday and then Saturday. Saturday, yeah.

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Whereas, like, Arsenal played on Tuesday and

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Sunday. Yeah. But... In terms of that, he has

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a point, but I still think that's bullshit because

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he doesn't ever rotate. You know, Endo, Chiesa,

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Rio, a lot of guys, Trey Nioni, a lot of people

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aren't getting a lot of chances because he refuses

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to rotate. He plays everyone into the ground

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and then complains about it. So, yeah. What do

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you think his thinking is behind it? Maybe he's

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just searching for some consistency because...

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Did he rotate a lot last season? No. I mean,

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but in general, it could be like... Bruh, in

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the cups, he doesn't rotate. He'll play a full

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strength team in the cups. Yeah, I mean... There's

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something wrong with him. It's... I don't know.

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Maybe it's a Dutch thing. I remember Louis van

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Gaal used to also play a full strength team in

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all competitions. Yeah. Whatever the case, Bournemouth

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outscored us on XG 2 .3 to 0 .83, meaning they

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created quality chances and finished them off,

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and we were clinical but didn't create enough

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chances. So, taking all that into consideration,

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I blame Slot for this match. Again? What do you

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mean again? The other day I didn't. The last

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defeat, though, you said you've joined the Slot

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Out Brigade. Not because of performance. because

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of the comments he made about us. But in this

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game, even though there were three individual

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errors, it was Slott's tactics which left the

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fullbacks up, which left the space exposed. So

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Van Dijk getting caught is a runoff of that tactic.

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So it's a combination of Van Dijk's fault and

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Slott's fault, I feel. for the first goal. Kirkees'

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fault and Slot's fault for the second goal. Van

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Dijk's fault, I guess Van Dijk's fault is 100

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% for the third goal. But in terms of going forward,

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we didn't have like patterns. We just looked

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out of ideas. It was down to Wurz and Frimpong

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to make something happen. And the system should

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be the one creating the chances, not... down

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to individual quality. That's a bad sign. But

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I mean, a lot of people have been saying that

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individual quality is like fading out of the

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game. What do you think about that? That's a

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totally different conversation. No, but I'm saying,

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do you think it's okay? I remember when Pep Guardiola

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was at Barcelona and he first came to Manchester

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City, he was very big on giving players freedom.

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beyond a certain point and not really I mean

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in the he had to train to win the treble they

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became a lot more structured but it's a give

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and take maybe slot is a bit more let the players

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figure it out type of coach Darren I think that's

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a very noob take that you said because you watch

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football right yeah you know that two guys if

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Guardiola trusts you he'll let you do whatever

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the fuck you want Two guys. KDB and Messi. At

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no point had he ever put any restriction on either

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of them. Yeah, so Dani Alves didn't have much

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restriction. Neither did Busquets, Iniesta or

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Xavi. If he has, like, he can trust you, he lets

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you do whatever you want. I don't know. Guys

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like Grealish should be, you know, have discipline

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beaten into them. Yeah, but I don't think, I

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think, generally, I think that's probably...

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You're speaking as someone who probably has just

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watched Pep Guardiola recently, maybe. But his

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boss and Bayern teams, I think, when he first

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got to Man City, he allowed players a lot more

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freedom. Yeah, but that's my point. There's so

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much... I think he's trying to channel the play

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more to an ideology he can control. There's only

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two managers in this league that do that, who

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strangle the individuality out of players. And

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that's Pep Guardiola and Mikel Arteta. most other

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players managers allow their players to you know

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give that creativity and you know shine yeah

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so I'm saying what do you think in general I

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think they should you should be reliant on the

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system like isn't slot kind of maybe I mean he

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won the league last season not that it makes

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an excuse but What did, like, Pep Guardiola's

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gone through seasons where he was off form as

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well. So what would you say is the difference

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from, let's say, this to when you guys finished

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fourth or fifth on the club? A change of tactics.

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We've gotten much more position -based this year.

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And it's clear that we're either still in transition

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to becoming a fully -based position side. or

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slot dozen out to manage a possession -based

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side. That's what's clear to me. But, I mean,

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the Dutch league is pretty easy. I don't know

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much about it, but I know the general consensus

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is that what he did there was very difficult

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to overthrow the Ajax and PSV duopoly on the

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league with Feyenoord. I think in the long term,

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he could have a vision that does focus on dominating,

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but I do think it could be transitionary. So

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it's like, how much time do you give him? Does

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he have all the players he wants as well? All

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I can judge is based on what I'm watching in

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front of me. Right? Do you disagree? Yeah, but

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I'm saying he's won the league last season, and

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then he's had a bad season this season. Does

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it make sense to sack him now? Would Manchester

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City have sacked Pep Guardiola last season? And

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if they don't win anything this season, it would

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be two bad seasons in a row for him. So should

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they sack him? It depends. What do we put down

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last season to? Is it down to Salah? Is it down

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to Klopp's tactics that the team was like, what's

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it called? You know, like when your body just

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reacts. Muscle memory. Oh, muscle memory, yeah.

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Muscle memory from Klopp. The league being weak.

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You know, there's many things we can say that

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aren't the case this year. And I think the squad

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composition is worse this year without Luis Diaz.

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Not Luis Diaz the player, Luis Diaz the profile.

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We could have sold Luis Diaz and bought somebody

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who fits his profile, but we didn't do that.

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We chose to go with Gakbo as the starting left

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wing. We chose to not reinforce our midfield.

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I really think we need a defensive midfielder,

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especially for the big games. Gravenberg is good

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turning out of small spaces, but he can do that

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at eight. He doesn't necessarily need to be the

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six. Yeah, I get what you're saying. But again,

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the point I was trying to make before this was

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Wurz and Frimpong, all the creative duties are

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on them. And if they can't get something going,

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then the whole team falls apart. And that should

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not be the case. The system, there should be

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patterns of play. They should be attacking, you

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know, what we call it. Slots should be generating

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the chances, right? And individual moments of

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brilliance should take us to the next level in

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big games. That's how it should work for me.

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Individual moments should not be coming in smaller

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games. That's what I feel. Okay, I get you. Sorry,

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a bit of a rant I went off on. Any other points

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you want to make about Bournemouth -Liverpool?

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I mean, no, I did expect it to be a chaotic game

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in terms of... I thought both defences were...

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unreliable I guess so yes inconsistent as well

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it is a problem I guess I didn't you don't first

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realize when when what Andoni Areola first came

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like I guess everyone was blown away with the

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football he was playing like similar to the Zerbi

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you know it was it was very entertaining it was

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like a new A new, I guess what's the word, swashbuckling

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brand of football that came to the Premier League.

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But I guess he has the same problems that De

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Zerbi has with regards to defensive discipline.

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Too open. Yeah. We'll have to see if his philosophy

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can translate to an elite club. But I would hope

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he gets a chance, maybe at a Tottenham or something.

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I feel like Spurs could hire so many people.

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They could either choose somebody really sick

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like Xabi Alonso or like somebody really awful

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like, I don't know, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. Like,

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that's how Spurs' appointments go. They're like

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either like somebody really slick that they don't

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give time or somebody awful. But anyway, do you

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want anything to round off the Bournemouth -Liverpool

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segment? No, that's all. I mean, as long as you've

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said your piece. Alright, so let's move on to

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the Arsenal vs Man Utd game. So you said Arsenal

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would win 3 -1. Now I said Man Utd would win

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2 -0. Damn, I guess you got the result right.

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So another game that played out just as I suspected,

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Carrick set up this exact same way as last weekend,

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got the same result. I mean, yeah, not the same

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scoreline, but same result. They started with

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a 4 -4 -2 mid -block and absorbed a lot of pressure

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and then tried to counter. Yeah, I mean, I think

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also from Arsenal's perspective, it wasn't a

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bad start. I think we controlled them well as

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well. The main problem where we lost control

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of the game for me was the Zubamendi mistake.

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After that we started making a lot of petulant

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mistakes. I guess Man United themselves, they

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left a lot of space vacated in midfield which

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I don't think Arsenal used. Which I guess that

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would come back to probably Arteta more than

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anyone because I think there was an over -reliance

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on pushing the ball wide and trying to get it

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in. But I think Manchester United kind of expected

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that. We had a lot of space we could have utilised

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in the middle. I think Eze maybe could have played

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on the left if you were going to go with the

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idea of getting creativity from wide. And maybe

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Trossard could have gone central because he's

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a better ball striker, a better finisher than

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most of the people in Arsenal. But yeah, I guess

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everything's easy in hindsight. I think we haven't

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had very many losses, so it's hard to say anything.

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Generally, we didn't give away much. I thought

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they played well. We must give them credit as

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well. Their goals were sensational as well. I

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mean, the second and third ones. But I think...

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We made a lot of errors, especially in defence,

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which was very uncharacteristic, and in pressing,

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which was also very uncharacteristic. I'm hoping

00:22:05.750 --> 00:22:09.990
it's just one of those performances, but I still

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feel good about the rest of the league season,

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at least. I disagree. I think this is the beginning

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of the end. Yeah, you said that for a while.

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No, I haven't. No, I haven't. That's a lie. That's

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a straight -up lie. You always said we were going

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to fall apart, so nothing's changed. Okay, but

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this is the weekend that it starts. We'll see.

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I'm just saying, everyone sees now that Arsenal

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have a soft underbelly, so everyone realizes

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that if they really get at Arsenal and attack,

00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:48.210
attack, attack, They're open to it. But they

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didn't get much, though. They scored two wonder

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goals and one was a horrible mistake. I knew

00:22:52.769 --> 00:22:55.390
you were going to say that, right? Yeah, it's

00:22:55.390 --> 00:22:58.170
the truth, though. It's because Arsenal gave

00:22:58.170 --> 00:23:02.150
them the space to shoot from that place. I mean,

00:23:02.190 --> 00:23:04.029
it could be argued, but that's the only game

00:23:04.029 --> 00:23:06.890
we've really done that this season. Manchester

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City, Michael Carrick himself said, was a far

00:23:09.369 --> 00:23:11.670
easier game that they dominated from start to

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finish. So you're saying Arsenal were bad, not

00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:16.779
that... Yeah, I think we were poor. I think that

00:23:16.779 --> 00:23:19.319
was our worst performance of the season. I think

00:23:19.319 --> 00:23:21.460
that was the average Arsenal performance. It's

00:23:21.460 --> 00:23:23.619
just... Yeah, I think you're watching... You're

00:23:23.619 --> 00:23:26.400
not really understanding the way we play. That's

00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:35.359
a newbie take. Oh. I see. Anyway, I have another

00:23:35.359 --> 00:23:39.119
point about Carrick. And it's his pressing system.

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I thought their pressing was abysmal. the Man

00:23:43.380 --> 00:23:46.319
United press. And that's why Carrick shouldn't

00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:49.279
get the job in the future because he had individual

00:23:49.279 --> 00:23:55.279
players going after individual players. Pressing

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is supposed to be done as a team. They're supposed

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to move in unison and then trap the player and

00:24:01.079 --> 00:24:04.839
then use the numbers to overwhelm them and get

00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:10.440
the ball back. Yeah. Arsenal opened the scoring

00:24:10.440 --> 00:24:13.599
from a well -worked ball finished off by either

00:24:13.599 --> 00:24:17.359
Martinez or own goal by either Martinez own goal

00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:21.059
or by timber so the replays were yeah the replays

00:24:21.059 --> 00:24:26.039
were unclear to me so yeah either or I believe

00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:28.460
they gave it to Martinez in fantasy which is

00:24:28.460 --> 00:24:31.559
good for me because my brother has timber so

00:24:31.559 --> 00:24:36.500
yeah then Zubamendi gifted a goal to Brian Mbwemo

00:24:36.500 --> 00:24:40.150
against a run of play but you know like you mentioned

00:24:40.150 --> 00:24:43.250
that's uh arsenal becomes shaky after that and

00:24:43.250 --> 00:24:47.710
a lot of uh nervousness starts to creep in uh

00:24:47.710 --> 00:24:53.269
for man united's second goal uh there was a lot

00:24:53.269 --> 00:24:58.069
of like 1v1 okay so for united's second goal

00:24:58.069 --> 00:25:00.650
there was a bunch of interplay in midfield and

00:25:00.650 --> 00:25:04.190
then dogu with the wonder strike Yeah, I mean,

00:25:04.190 --> 00:25:07.309
so we have to mention Bruno Fernandes again.

00:25:07.349 --> 00:25:10.609
Best player on the pitch, I thought. Said the

00:25:10.609 --> 00:25:13.650
same thing last week and through again this week.

00:25:14.289 --> 00:25:18.569
Now that he's been unleashed from the crook Amarim.

00:25:18.730 --> 00:25:21.650
He's kind of a maverick player. Selects his best

00:25:21.650 --> 00:25:25.589
performances in the big games. But I guess whether

00:25:25.589 --> 00:25:28.490
his career path was the right choice or not,

00:25:28.690 --> 00:25:35.730
we'll see. What's this? I missed Arsenal's second

00:25:35.730 --> 00:25:40.309
goal. Marino, if you could explain what happened

00:25:40.309 --> 00:25:44.390
there. It was a set play, of course. But yeah,

00:25:44.529 --> 00:25:49.470
typical great delivery from Saka. United's keeper

00:25:49.470 --> 00:25:53.109
comes, his name is Lemmens, right? He misses

00:25:53.109 --> 00:25:59.750
it and just a bit of sloppy play from Manchester

00:25:59.750 --> 00:26:04.450
United. I think it deflects off, I don't know

00:26:04.450 --> 00:26:07.269
if it's an Arsenal defender or an Arsenal attacker

00:26:07.269 --> 00:26:10.269
or a Manchester United defender, falls at Mourinho's

00:26:10.269 --> 00:26:14.630
feet. It looks, from some angles, like I think

00:26:14.630 --> 00:26:17.950
one of the Manchester United defenders clears

00:26:17.950 --> 00:26:21.289
it off the line, but then the rest watch buzzes

00:26:21.289 --> 00:26:25.710
and the goal is given. I mean, we had a lot of

00:26:25.710 --> 00:26:29.519
momentum at that time. Coming into that goal,

00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:31.440
we were coming back into the game. Or leading

00:26:31.440 --> 00:26:33.099
up to that goal, we were coming back into the

00:26:33.099 --> 00:26:37.680
game. And then once they got the third, which

00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:39.519
was a sensational goal, they kind of shut us

00:26:39.519 --> 00:26:41.519
out. They played really well for the rest of

00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:44.559
the game. They dominated the ball. We struggled

00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:47.160
to get it back after that. But again, I haven't

00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:49.000
seen that in many games this season. I'm not

00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:53.180
too worried. I think we've done that in games

00:26:53.180 --> 00:26:55.240
to Manchester City and they've gone on to win

00:26:55.240 --> 00:26:59.619
the league. Let's see what happens. I also thought

00:26:59.619 --> 00:27:02.700
the crowd was very... I hate our crowd. I hate

00:27:02.700 --> 00:27:08.059
our fans, literally. That's rude. But I noticed

00:27:08.059 --> 00:27:10.980
the same thing when Liverpool played at the Emirates.

00:27:10.980 --> 00:27:13.579
About the 70th minute mark, it gets like a bit

00:27:13.579 --> 00:27:16.200
nervous. It's toxic. That's the most thing. It's

00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:18.819
not like an easy atmosphere to play in for the

00:27:18.819 --> 00:27:21.490
players because... I think like... Like, they're

00:27:21.490 --> 00:27:23.670
not singing the whole game. It's very much like

00:27:23.670 --> 00:27:26.109
an away atmosphere the minute something starts

00:27:26.109 --> 00:27:31.269
going against you. Like, the fans are very critical

00:27:31.269 --> 00:27:33.690
of the players to a point where it's like, okay,

00:27:33.710 --> 00:27:36.049
you can criticize a player after the game, but

00:27:36.049 --> 00:27:39.710
in the game you can't shout or do or criticize

00:27:39.710 --> 00:27:42.730
every touch. I mean, maybe it works for Real

00:27:42.730 --> 00:27:44.269
Madrid and Barcelona. Yeah, I was going to say

00:27:44.269 --> 00:27:45.970
Real Madrid do that all the time. But I think

00:27:45.970 --> 00:27:47.890
it's part of Spanish footballing culture. It

00:27:47.890 --> 00:27:50.359
happens at every team. players grow up like that

00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:53.700
in England it's different so a lot of the players

00:27:53.700 --> 00:27:55.980
I think they they struggle with it psychologically

00:27:55.980 --> 00:27:59.619
like I think you have players like Saka and Rice

00:27:59.619 --> 00:28:02.779
who carry the team in those moments I still think

00:28:02.779 --> 00:28:04.960
we're too over reliant on them too in particular

00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:08.539
so if they don't play well the rest of the team

00:28:08.539 --> 00:28:13.019
doesn't play well as well so but sounds like

00:28:13.019 --> 00:28:16.019
a poorly coached team That sounds like a poorly

00:28:16.019 --> 00:28:19.759
coached team. In your idea, yes. If only two

00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:21.759
players don't show up then. But again, I said

00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:25.619
Arsenal are more defensively focused and we don't,

00:28:25.619 --> 00:28:28.660
in every single game this season, we've given

00:28:28.660 --> 00:28:31.579
away less than we've created. So even if I think

00:28:31.579 --> 00:28:34.440
we do have open play creativity issues, which

00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:37.019
could be a coaching problem, it could be a selection

00:28:37.019 --> 00:28:41.759
issue. I would say choosing Odegaard over Eze.

00:28:42.669 --> 00:28:44.990
But I don't think Eze is a 10. I don't think

00:28:44.990 --> 00:28:48.430
he's better as a 10. I see what you're saying.

00:28:48.589 --> 00:28:50.630
Eze should have played on the left. Yes, that's

00:28:50.630 --> 00:28:53.650
what I'm saying. Yes. I think we have an open

00:28:53.650 --> 00:28:55.829
play creativity issue. And if he's going to create

00:28:55.829 --> 00:29:00.390
from wide, like Guardiola used to, he has to

00:29:00.390 --> 00:29:03.490
get the player most like KDB, which would be

00:29:03.490 --> 00:29:07.450
Eze, into the half spaces. I think that you can

00:29:07.450 --> 00:29:10.849
be critical of. But again... It's hard to be

00:29:10.849 --> 00:29:13.970
critical of him if in every game you create conditions

00:29:13.970 --> 00:29:16.349
where your team creates more than the opposition

00:29:16.349 --> 00:29:19.650
so far. So I don't think coaching -wise, I think

00:29:19.650 --> 00:29:21.769
he has a few flaws. I really thought he was too

00:29:21.769 --> 00:29:26.369
cautious. Again, the same thing against Liverpool.

00:29:26.650 --> 00:29:29.369
He was just like, why don't they attack? Yeah,

00:29:29.410 --> 00:29:32.730
I think it's the way he coaches. It's very much

00:29:32.730 --> 00:29:36.890
like a Simeone team. Simeone is one of my favourite

00:29:36.890 --> 00:29:39.730
coaches. in the world. I really like Simeone.

00:29:39.849 --> 00:29:44.089
I think what he's done to take two titles off

00:29:44.089 --> 00:29:49.690
Messi and Ronaldo is incredible. It's really

00:29:49.690 --> 00:29:54.869
not the best watch for everyone, but I think

00:29:54.869 --> 00:29:57.730
you have to respect it for what it is. No, you

00:29:57.730 --> 00:30:00.759
don't. You don't have to, yes, but at the end

00:30:00.759 --> 00:30:01.920
of the day... I don't want to watch defensive

00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:04.160
football. Yeah, that's fine. Fuck Simeone. That's

00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:07.720
your idea, but Antonio Conte, Rafa Benitez won

00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:09.900
you guys the Champions League that way. Yes,

00:30:09.900 --> 00:30:13.000
I was a child. Did you expect me as a child to

00:30:13.000 --> 00:30:15.619
be like, oh, this guy's not playing fluid football,

00:30:15.740 --> 00:30:17.799
get out of here. Some of the best players are

00:30:17.799 --> 00:30:19.200
also... I didn't understand at the time that...

00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:21.160
But some of the best players are also developed

00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:25.140
in defensive systems, like... I think the reason

00:30:25.140 --> 00:30:28.079
a player like Steven Gerrard for example was

00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:30.740
able to become complete was because of the responsibility

00:30:30.740 --> 00:30:33.279
he undertook in the defensive system. Same thing

00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:35.960
with Frank Lampard. For example if you put Didier

00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:38.059
Drogba in a system where he gets the ball all

00:30:38.059 --> 00:30:41.109
the time. He's not going to look like a top -class

00:30:41.109 --> 00:30:43.569
player, honestly. Well, you know you always take

00:30:43.569 --> 00:30:47.170
these snide little remarks at Rugby. No, he's

00:30:47.170 --> 00:30:49.470
one of the best players. He's a maverick player.

00:30:49.609 --> 00:30:53.029
I'm just saying that his talent is also kept

00:30:53.029 --> 00:30:56.309
up by a defensive system. You saw it every coast

00:30:56.309 --> 00:31:00.009
when they tried to play attacking football. As

00:31:00.009 --> 00:31:03.950
soon as he left, they won. I see. I see. Are

00:31:03.950 --> 00:31:07.549
you happy? Yes. Oh, my God. This guy. And what

00:31:07.549 --> 00:31:12.900
about Henri? I'd say Henri is probably an elite

00:31:12.900 --> 00:31:15.880
talent, but I don't say he has the maverick qualities

00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.579
of Drogba. But I've always admitted that he's

00:31:18.579 --> 00:31:21.220
not as much of a maverick player as Drogba. In

00:31:21.220 --> 00:31:24.339
terms of expected goals, Arsenal had 1 .58 to

00:31:24.339 --> 00:31:27.779
United 0 .98, which indicates Arsenal were in

00:31:27.779 --> 00:31:30.680
line with XG, but United were extremely clinical

00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:32.900
in their finishing. That's the thing. I don't

00:31:32.900 --> 00:31:37.180
think the two of the games we've lost this season

00:31:38.410 --> 00:31:40.710
have had two wonder goals in them. That doesn't

00:31:40.710 --> 00:31:43.430
happen every week. I understand what you're saying,

00:31:43.509 --> 00:31:47.490
but follow this logic, right? Elite finishers

00:31:47.490 --> 00:31:50.950
who are clinical are going to score against Arsenal.

00:31:51.970 --> 00:31:55.430
Yeah, I don't think that's... Even if you make

00:31:55.430 --> 00:31:57.529
that argument, we've lost less than any team.

00:31:57.710 --> 00:32:00.009
These clinical finishers, they come up in the

00:32:00.009 --> 00:32:03.410
big games, right? Yeah, and we've only lost one

00:32:03.410 --> 00:32:07.009
big game. You lost two. Okay, against you guys.

00:32:07.170 --> 00:32:09.549
But you guys are not a big game right now. United

00:32:09.549 --> 00:32:12.390
aren't a big game. And you lost to them. Well,

00:32:12.410 --> 00:32:14.730
they're on a good run. I'm kidding. Okay, we've

00:32:14.730 --> 00:32:17.849
lost two big games. It's normal. I'm just saying,

00:32:17.890 --> 00:32:20.450
I don't think this is sustainable for Champions

00:32:20.450 --> 00:32:26.519
League and, you know. I don't think we were expected

00:32:26.519 --> 00:32:28.940
to win the Champions League this season. Why?

00:32:29.220 --> 00:32:33.779
What is this false... Well, not from my perspective.

00:32:33.799 --> 00:32:36.319
I still see Barcelona as being better than us.

00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:38.700
Every team should be going for every competition

00:32:38.700 --> 00:32:41.900
they can. That's how I feel. Yeah, I think we

00:32:41.900 --> 00:32:43.859
still have time to improve. If we win the Premier

00:32:43.859 --> 00:32:45.980
League, that's good enough this season. Go for

00:32:45.980 --> 00:32:48.480
the Champions League next season. Arteta has

00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:54.519
so low expectations of him. He has the best squad

00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:57.160
and you just want the Premier League when you

00:32:57.160 --> 00:32:59.759
should be going for a quad. No, you don't need

00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:01.619
to go for it. We don't have the best squad and

00:33:01.619 --> 00:33:03.900
this is not a squad that's comparable to Man

00:33:03.900 --> 00:33:07.779
City's treble winning squad. Why do you say that?

00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:11.019
Because I don't think we have the same type of

00:33:11.019 --> 00:33:12.099
options. It doesn't necessarily have to be the

00:33:12.099 --> 00:33:14.900
same quality because the seasons are different,

00:33:15.019 --> 00:33:18.019
right? The quality of teams around City a couple

00:33:18.019 --> 00:33:20.299
of years ago could have been higher and the quality...

00:33:21.319 --> 00:33:23.099
of the teams that are on Arsenal now could be

00:33:23.099 --> 00:33:26.220
lower. They weren't, though. No, but I'm saying

00:33:26.220 --> 00:33:29.559
you don't have to be the same quality as that

00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:34.579
City team to win four trophies. You don't. I

00:33:34.579 --> 00:33:36.700
think you do, though. Well, I think the quality

00:33:36.700 --> 00:33:38.839
of football is just as high now. Hansi Flick's

00:33:38.839 --> 00:33:42.380
Barcelona, Luis Enrique's PSG. That's one trophy.

00:33:42.539 --> 00:33:44.700
What about the other three? Yeah, I think we

00:33:44.700 --> 00:33:47.240
can. We're probably going to get to the final

00:33:47.240 --> 00:33:50.069
of the Carabao Cup. Well, we'll see about that.

00:33:50.089 --> 00:33:51.670
We'll probably win the Premier League. We'll

00:33:51.670 --> 00:33:53.750
see about that. We'll see. Okay, all of this

00:33:53.750 --> 00:33:56.470
is hypothetical, but if at the end of the season

00:33:56.470 --> 00:33:59.109
we win one of the three trophies, that's fine

00:33:59.109 --> 00:34:05.670
for me. Caribou. I would say... Oh, shit. What

00:34:05.670 --> 00:34:08.489
did you mention just now? The four -point gap.

00:34:08.829 --> 00:34:11.809
It's a four -point gap. Aren't you, you know,

00:34:11.809 --> 00:34:15.309
feeling the hot breath down your neck? Man City

00:34:15.309 --> 00:34:18.929
played Tottenham this weekend. We all know how

00:34:18.929 --> 00:34:22.789
that ends. I don't know what conclusion I'm supposed

00:34:22.789 --> 00:34:25.429
to draw. This is not the Spurs of old. This is

00:34:25.429 --> 00:34:27.230
Thomas Frank Spurs. Didn't they beat them 4 -1

00:34:27.230 --> 00:34:29.630
last season? This is Thomas Frank Spurs. This

00:34:29.630 --> 00:34:33.630
is not... And Pastor Coghlu Spurs. And Pastor

00:34:33.630 --> 00:34:35.750
Coghlu won the Europa League. That's much more

00:34:35.750 --> 00:34:42.150
than Arteta. Okay. Okay. Any other points you

00:34:42.150 --> 00:34:45.929
want to make before we end the Arsenal vs Man

00:34:45.929 --> 00:34:48.820
United segment? Yeah, I think people just need

00:34:48.820 --> 00:34:51.880
to calm down. It's not as bad of a result as

00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:55.019
people think it is. We've still comfortably been

00:34:55.019 --> 00:35:00.539
the best team in the league, so I don't think

00:35:00.539 --> 00:35:03.699
we'll throw it away. And I think the exact opposite.

00:35:03.780 --> 00:35:06.460
I think this is as bad as you think it is. You

00:35:06.460 --> 00:35:10.840
should panic. Arsenal are throwing it away. The

00:35:10.840 --> 00:35:14.639
only question is, will it be Villa or City that

00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:17.909
capitalize on this? Both of them are only four

00:35:17.909 --> 00:35:20.869
points behind. Is that what you think? It's not

00:35:20.869 --> 00:35:23.429
what I think. They're four points behind. That's

00:35:23.429 --> 00:35:25.170
a fact. I'm saying if you think they're going

00:35:25.170 --> 00:35:27.610
to capitalize on it, I respect your opinion.

00:35:27.929 --> 00:35:30.869
All right. I'm just thinking, I look at Arsenal's

00:35:30.869 --> 00:35:33.369
fixtures, you know, it's getting, it's looking

00:35:33.369 --> 00:35:37.329
spooky. That's all I'm saying. We'll see. Now

00:35:37.329 --> 00:35:40.690
on to the miscellaneous section. Some hot quick

00:35:40.690 --> 00:35:44.369
hits. Ah, whoosh. Ah, so quick. Ah, hot. I didn't

00:35:44.369 --> 00:35:47.010
watch any other games. We just watched the highlights

00:35:47.010 --> 00:35:50.550
now. Yes. So we're just going to go through the

00:35:50.550 --> 00:35:53.789
other games quickly. Just a couple of quick points.

00:35:53.889 --> 00:35:57.409
A couple of just what did you think on his face?

00:35:57.550 --> 00:36:00.610
Boom. Right? So I did actually watch his game.

00:36:00.710 --> 00:36:04.130
West Ham 3, Sunderland 1. It was the early kickoff

00:36:04.130 --> 00:36:07.469
on Saturday. No, I didn't watch that. I was at

00:36:07.469 --> 00:36:10.750
work. So in the first half, Jared Bowen with

00:36:10.750 --> 00:36:15.079
the goal and assist. Listeners, Darren hates

00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:18.539
Jared Bowen. He thinks he's a bum. In my opinion,

00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:20.300
Jared Bowen is one of the greatest right -wings

00:36:20.300 --> 00:36:23.619
in the league. He should have replaced Salah

00:36:23.619 --> 00:36:27.500
about four years ago. But our owners are cowards

00:36:27.500 --> 00:36:30.480
and the fans wouldn't have liked it. But that's

00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:32.340
the truth. That's the truth on what should have

00:36:32.340 --> 00:36:35.460
happened. Anyway, Jared Bowen with a goal and

00:36:35.460 --> 00:36:40.780
assist. He now is the all -time... goal contribution

00:36:40.780 --> 00:36:43.320
provider for West Ham in the Premier League.

00:36:44.420 --> 00:36:50.019
Highest ever. 104. So, you know. Wonderful. Yeah.

00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:55.679
Anyway. Congratulations. For the assist, he put

00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:57.659
in an all -right cross, but Somerville's leap

00:36:57.659 --> 00:36:59.960
and header was what made the goal special. He

00:36:59.960 --> 00:37:05.650
really powered that header home. Then West Ham

00:37:05.650 --> 00:37:07.809
were awarded a bullshit penalty because their

00:37:07.809 --> 00:37:11.289
player's skulls clearly dived. It was a... You

00:37:11.289 --> 00:37:14.230
know like when the player jumps into the other

00:37:14.230 --> 00:37:15.670
person and gets a penalty? Oh, and then they

00:37:15.670 --> 00:37:19.610
get the contact. Yes. It was really... The referee

00:37:19.610 --> 00:37:23.789
had the wool pulled over their eyes. Right? Nevertheless,

00:37:24.050 --> 00:37:29.050
Bowen converted very powerfully. And... I don't

00:37:29.050 --> 00:37:32.610
know why you're laughing. He did. He did. No,

00:37:32.670 --> 00:37:36.699
just... You had to... The way you described it.

00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:42.840
Mateus Fernandes scored a wonder goal. He really

00:37:42.840 --> 00:37:47.699
powered that one home. So it was 3 -0 to West

00:37:47.699 --> 00:37:51.980
Ham. In the second half, Mukheili does a really

00:37:51.980 --> 00:37:54.280
good run and puts in an excellent cross which

00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:58.079
Brian Brobbey powered home with a header. Mukheili,

00:37:58.199 --> 00:38:01.440
I'm very impressed with him. He played for Leipzig,

00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.690
I believe. Either Leipzig or Salzburg. I think

00:38:04.690 --> 00:38:06.849
it was Leipzig. Whatever the case is, he was

00:38:06.849 --> 00:38:09.969
like a big name. I don't know how, but Sunderland

00:38:09.969 --> 00:38:14.050
signed like five Europa League players like under

00:38:14.050 --> 00:38:17.429
everyone's noses. I don't know what the backstory

00:38:17.429 --> 00:38:19.130
is. Does Sunderland have money or something?

00:38:19.489 --> 00:38:23.309
Or they're just like super smart at scouting

00:38:23.309 --> 00:38:27.539
and like... I mean, I saw Grindr Tracker go in

00:38:27.539 --> 00:38:33.579
a fight with a fan. Yes. It was so funny. It

00:38:33.579 --> 00:38:37.440
wasn't him. It was some other person came off,

00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.480
right? And the fan was abusing that guy. Not

00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:42.980
abusing as in like, you know, like they were

00:38:42.980 --> 00:38:47.900
just making fun of them. So Grata Jacka starts,

00:38:48.179 --> 00:38:50.219
you know, stepping up on behalf of that person

00:38:50.219 --> 00:38:52.599
and starts arguing with the person. Then they

00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:55.219
called the fourth official over. Then they called

00:38:55.219 --> 00:38:57.159
the referee and the referee stops the game so

00:38:57.159 --> 00:39:01.219
that they could deal with that. And then the

00:39:01.219 --> 00:39:04.280
stewards came and took the fan away. But yeah.

00:39:05.019 --> 00:39:11.340
I'm glad they sorted it out. Yeah, so I was saying,

00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:17.360
Mukheili, I wouldn't mind us signing him. He

00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:21.280
looks very good, attacking -wise and defensively.

00:39:21.300 --> 00:39:24.000
I really rate him. He plays right back, but I

00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:26.019
believe he played centre -back when he was in

00:39:26.019 --> 00:39:31.320
Germany. So, you know, what's the word? A person

00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:34.099
who can cover multiple... Or a utility player.

00:39:34.159 --> 00:39:37.719
He's a utility player, so I would really not

00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:42.400
mind signing him. Then we get to Fulham 2, Brighton

00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:46.079
1. And based on the highlights, Brighton absolutely

00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:49.019
gave them a hiding. But Fulham were just more

00:39:49.019 --> 00:39:55.039
clinical. So every highlight was Brighton going

00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:58.739
in on goal and then missing or something. But

00:39:58.739 --> 00:40:02.179
they did have a goal ruled out. Danny Welbeck's

00:40:02.179 --> 00:40:06.840
shoulder was offside. And that looked like bullshit

00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:10.739
to me, honestly. It's right on his... Oh yeah,

00:40:10.760 --> 00:40:14.079
yeah, I saw that in the highlights we were watching.

00:40:14.239 --> 00:40:17.420
Yes, it was so like... It was so marginal. They

00:40:17.420 --> 00:40:22.500
told us that if it's on your arm, it's not offside

00:40:22.500 --> 00:40:25.360
anymore. It has to be like, you know, the joint

00:40:25.360 --> 00:40:28.539
between your arm and the body. That's where offside,

00:40:28.619 --> 00:40:30.519
because you can't score with your arm. What do

00:40:30.519 --> 00:40:32.940
you think about Arsene Wenger's offside proposal?

00:40:33.840 --> 00:40:38.340
uh to move it so that uh if any any part of you

00:40:38.340 --> 00:40:44.800
is behind the line i supposedly give the the

00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:49.079
a benefit to attackers and i like that idea do

00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:52.119
that attackers would you know benefit from it

00:40:52.119 --> 00:40:55.480
benefit from it but at the same time uh tactics

00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:57.900
would evolve to combat that we'd stop playing

00:40:57.900 --> 00:41:01.500
with a high line um i don't necessarily think

00:41:01.500 --> 00:41:04.539
that because i think uh Maybe the Lions could

00:41:04.539 --> 00:41:06.619
come higher. I think someone like Hansi Flick

00:41:06.619 --> 00:41:09.139
is not really going to drop his line low at all.

00:41:09.340 --> 00:41:12.219
And then you'll suffer for it. You've seen him,

00:41:12.300 --> 00:41:15.139
like, heedless believes he can outscore anyone.

00:41:15.860 --> 00:41:20.639
That's his principle, you know. So the answer

00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:24.559
is I don't know. If it benefits attackers, then

00:41:24.559 --> 00:41:27.860
I agree to it. If it changes the game and makes

00:41:27.860 --> 00:41:30.679
it less attacking, I disagree with it. It's hard

00:41:30.679 --> 00:41:32.969
to say. Yeah, it's hard to say from... the outside

00:41:32.969 --> 00:41:35.070
looking in, so that's why I don't want to really...

00:41:35.070 --> 00:41:37.429
I think it would just make it easier to, like,

00:41:37.449 --> 00:41:41.849
not have to talk about marginal decisions for,

00:41:41.909 --> 00:41:43.829
like, But I think there would still be marginal

00:41:43.829 --> 00:41:47.849
decisions based on that, just the point of contact

00:41:47.849 --> 00:41:51.030
would be the last part of the body, not the first

00:41:51.030 --> 00:41:53.889
part of the body. Yeah, I guess so, but, okay,

00:41:54.010 --> 00:41:55.769
yeah, I mean, I guess if they're ahead of the

00:41:55.769 --> 00:42:03.409
play, but, I mean, yeah. Yeah, but... Fulham,

00:42:03.409 --> 00:42:07.010
okay, so the Brighton goal was kind of a wonder

00:42:07.010 --> 00:42:10.369
strike from Ayari. You joked while we were watching

00:42:10.369 --> 00:42:14.510
that, sell him 400 million after that goal. It

00:42:14.510 --> 00:42:18.250
was really such a good goal. Fulham, one ball

00:42:18.250 --> 00:42:21.329
over the top to Kwasi's end and scores. Just

00:42:21.329 --> 00:42:24.369
really, not a tactical thing, just Brighton were

00:42:24.369 --> 00:42:28.690
just piss poor at defending. Then we spoke about

00:42:28.690 --> 00:42:30.329
the goal that should have stood for well back.

00:42:30.550 --> 00:42:34.840
And then... Fulham score an incredible free kick

00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:36.840
from Harry Wilson, who was having an unbelievable

00:42:36.840 --> 00:42:41.400
season. With the wonder goals. Yes. He's in my

00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:45.280
fantasy team, just holding everybody up. He's

00:42:45.280 --> 00:42:47.199
like Atlas at the bottom, holding up the world.

00:42:47.340 --> 00:42:53.420
He is doing incredible things. Yeah. Burnley

00:42:53.420 --> 00:43:01.400
2, Tottenham 2. Damn. I'm still like... like

00:43:01.400 --> 00:43:05.280
shocked that Not shocked, but I'm still like

00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:08.960
quite surprised that how badly it's turned out

00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:12.539
for Thomas Frank. I really thought he was gonna

00:43:12.539 --> 00:43:16.579
go in there and be like someone who brought them

00:43:16.579 --> 00:43:21.699
at least to like a competitive level again, you

00:43:21.699 --> 00:43:25.699
know, I I was really impressed when I used to

00:43:25.699 --> 00:43:27.360
watch him at Brentford. They were the team that

00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:29.940
used to give us, probably outside of you guys

00:43:29.940 --> 00:43:32.039
in Manchester City, the most difficult time,

00:43:32.159 --> 00:43:34.840
even once we became competitive. I think he beat

00:43:34.840 --> 00:43:37.219
us twice in one season, the season before he

00:43:37.219 --> 00:43:41.840
joined Tottenham or the season before that. Those

00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:47.559
games I watched, I was really... I don't know

00:43:47.559 --> 00:43:50.260
what's gone wrong. I haven't watched much of

00:43:50.260 --> 00:43:53.539
Tottenham. Well, I'm kind of coming to this conclusion

00:43:53.539 --> 00:43:56.300
that there's small club managers and big club

00:43:56.300 --> 00:43:59.860
managers. And there's nothing you can do to kind

00:43:59.860 --> 00:44:05.159
of change between one of them. Yeah. Like, you

00:44:05.159 --> 00:44:11.260
can just handle egos and, you know, make the

00:44:11.260 --> 00:44:13.340
big decisions or you can't. That's what I feel

00:44:13.340 --> 00:44:16.079
at this moment now. And I don't think Thomas

00:44:16.079 --> 00:44:19.780
Frank is that guy right now. And I think this

00:44:19.780 --> 00:44:23.400
also kind of fucks up Oliver Glasner's push to

00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:26.139
become a top coach because people are going to

00:44:26.139 --> 00:44:28.639
look at him and, I think, compare him to Thomas

00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:33.099
Frank. And it's unfair, and people shouldn't

00:44:33.099 --> 00:44:36.699
do that, but it's the same thing that happened

00:44:36.699 --> 00:44:39.440
with Nunes and Jokers, and that turned out to

00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:46.039
be right. So, yeah. Speaking about Burnley 2,

00:44:46.119 --> 00:44:49.230
Tottenham 2, There's really nothing to be said.

00:44:49.570 --> 00:44:53.150
Spurs scored two goals from set pieces. Burnley

00:44:53.150 --> 00:44:56.349
scored two goals on the counter. Nothing we can

00:44:56.349 --> 00:45:01.369
analyze or sink our teeth into this, so I'm just

00:45:01.369 --> 00:45:07.449
going to move on. Man City 2, Wolves 0. Thoughts?

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I think I was also working during this game,

00:45:11.150 --> 00:45:16.760
but I saw the highlights. Good first goal by

00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:20.780
Omar Mahmoud. A lot of the chatter online is

00:45:20.780 --> 00:45:24.920
that they were so happy that City have a striker

00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:27.559
who will run in front of the play instead of

00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:31.320
Haaland who backs off the play. When there's

00:45:31.320 --> 00:45:34.280
a ball in behind. It's good to have the option

00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:36.539
of both because I guess they could go for either.

00:45:37.400 --> 00:45:40.780
And then I guess you have Semenya who can kind

00:45:40.780 --> 00:45:45.880
of do everything in the front line. it's a it's

00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:48.639
a i mean yeah sorry before we speak about the

00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:50.559
game well we already started speaking about the

00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:54.920
game but holland and foden bench yeah i mean

00:45:54.920 --> 00:45:57.579
i think that was coming given recent performances

00:45:57.579 --> 00:46:02.780
so it it worked out in the end i mean i guess

00:46:02.780 --> 00:46:05.139
the controversy the main talking point was the

00:46:05.769 --> 00:46:07.929
The handball, whether it was or wasn't a handball.

00:46:07.929 --> 00:46:09.889
Yes, that's the next thing. That City were robbed

00:46:09.889 --> 00:46:11.849
of a penalty, in my opinion. They were robbed

00:46:11.849 --> 00:46:14.949
of a penalty. Yeah, definitely. So, this was

00:46:14.949 --> 00:46:18.809
the referee's first game, I'm led to believe.

00:46:20.789 --> 00:46:23.869
His first ever game? I think so. I had no idea.

00:46:24.150 --> 00:46:27.510
Either it's his first game or he's very, very

00:46:27.510 --> 00:46:30.590
new. Well, hopefully he doesn't get a second.

00:46:32.230 --> 00:46:36.380
I'm kidding. So, this guy... He gave it as a

00:46:36.380 --> 00:46:40.519
non -penalty. VAR said, hey, go have a second

00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:43.199
look. He went over and he kept it with his decision.

00:46:43.500 --> 00:46:46.639
He backed his decision. Which is a very... Oh,

00:46:46.639 --> 00:46:48.539
I thought I'd never seen this riff before. I

00:46:48.539 --> 00:46:51.239
was like, who's this guy? It's a very kind of

00:46:51.239 --> 00:46:54.159
powerful thing to do because it's almost certainly

00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:56.059
that if VAR is telling you to go have a look,

00:46:56.079 --> 00:46:57.500
you've made a mistake. You've made a mistake.

00:46:57.579 --> 00:47:01.500
So, you know, backing yourself in that situation,

00:47:01.699 --> 00:47:07.099
I rate it. He was wrong. I admire the confidence,

00:47:07.260 --> 00:47:12.179
but you were wrong. Yeah. Are we done with that?

00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:14.679
Any other talking points you want to mention?

00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:16.940
Nothing I could think of from what I could see

00:47:16.940 --> 00:47:22.039
was just the dominant Man City performance. Alright.

00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:26.960
Crystal Palace won Chelsea 3. I did watch a bit

00:47:26.960 --> 00:47:29.980
of this game, I think. I don't remember where

00:47:29.980 --> 00:47:33.239
I was, but I did watch like... I was watching

00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:36.639
it in and out. I mean, I don't know. I don't

00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:38.219
know what to make of it. It's still early days

00:47:38.219 --> 00:47:42.980
for Liam Rossini. They look so far very similar

00:47:42.980 --> 00:47:45.920
to Mariska's Chelsea, so I don't know if he's

00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:50.139
working with what the squad is familiar with

00:47:50.139 --> 00:47:54.260
for now. I mean, from what I've read, ideologically,

00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:58.980
they're similar. I've very highly rated Mariska.

00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:03.280
If he can hit that level, then good for Chelsea,

00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:07.500
I guess. But some of the individual play as well

00:48:07.500 --> 00:48:10.579
was really good. I mean, Estovale scored a goal

00:48:10.579 --> 00:48:15.599
that almost looked like a traditional Willian

00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:18.780
goal for Chelsea. I mean, from the way he ran

00:48:18.780 --> 00:48:25.789
with the ball to the way he finished it. Some

00:48:25.789 --> 00:48:29.110
days he's unplayable, like in this game, and

00:48:29.110 --> 00:48:31.510
other days he disappears, so I still don't really

00:48:31.510 --> 00:48:33.789
know what to feel on him. I would still want

00:48:33.789 --> 00:48:37.489
him at Arsenal, though, if I could have him.

00:48:39.170 --> 00:48:41.670
Well, I would say that the Palace keeper had

00:48:41.670 --> 00:48:44.590
a nightmare. The first two goals were directly

00:48:44.590 --> 00:48:48.010
at him, and he just fluffed his lines in this

00:48:48.010 --> 00:48:51.030
corner. The third goal, Enzo scored a penalty

00:48:51.030 --> 00:48:56.480
that was, you know... Powerfully put away. No,

00:48:56.500 --> 00:49:02.019
it was alright. It was fine. Yes, the keeper

00:49:02.019 --> 00:49:03.900
didn't move. The keeper assumed that he would

00:49:03.900 --> 00:49:06.360
like Panenka or get it straight down the middle

00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:09.300
or something like that. And Enzo just slotted

00:49:09.300 --> 00:49:15.900
it to the right. Yeah, then Palace had a... What's

00:49:15.900 --> 00:49:20.739
it called? Concession goal? What? Consolation.

00:49:20.840 --> 00:49:25.219
Consolation, yes. Concession goal. Concessions

00:49:25.219 --> 00:49:27.619
are like... Every goal is a concession goal.

00:49:28.099 --> 00:49:32.159
What? Because you conceded. No, concessions are

00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:34.719
like popcorn and like... That's a stand, but

00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:39.400
I mean, concession is also conceding. I don't

00:49:39.400 --> 00:49:44.960
know. Anyway, yeah, the palace keeper went straight

00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:48.150
at me. Just made a mistake. I didn't see the

00:49:48.150 --> 00:49:51.849
lineups. So I don't know if that was Dean Henderson

00:49:51.849 --> 00:49:55.190
or not. But yeah, that was very poor. What I

00:49:55.190 --> 00:49:57.070
will say is in our last game that we covered,

00:49:57.110 --> 00:49:59.590
we also saw that Chelsea were very clinical.

00:50:00.130 --> 00:50:05.170
So clinical is the word I'm putting around the

00:50:05.170 --> 00:50:08.849
Liam Rosenior tenure so far. Because that's all

00:50:08.849 --> 00:50:11.070
we've seen. Clinical, extremely clinical goals.

00:50:11.449 --> 00:50:17.750
And yeah. Then... Well, we're done here. We move

00:50:17.750 --> 00:50:22.349
on to Aston Villa 2, Newcastle 0. I didn't watch

00:50:22.349 --> 00:50:26.329
this game. Well, I only watched the two highlight

00:50:26.329 --> 00:50:29.289
games. None of these I watched. I also watched

00:50:29.289 --> 00:50:31.750
the highlights. Yeah, I did see the highlights.

00:50:32.269 --> 00:50:34.630
It seemed like a dominant performance from Aston

00:50:34.630 --> 00:50:37.809
Villa. It did. Which is strange because Newcastle

00:50:37.809 --> 00:50:41.889
are not too bad at home. They usually are able

00:50:41.889 --> 00:50:43.849
to make games tricky. It seemed like it was a

00:50:43.849 --> 00:50:46.639
bit of a... So we spoke about this last week,

00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:51.400
but just to reiterate, Newcastle look tired.

00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:55.239
That's the number one talking point I saw online

00:50:55.239 --> 00:51:00.139
after this game, that Eddie Howe's style of play

00:51:00.139 --> 00:51:01.960
is not... It's relentless running. Yes, it's

00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:04.539
not sustainable, and they're trying to compete

00:51:04.539 --> 00:51:06.480
on four fronts, and it's just not working out.

00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:09.260
Therefore, either they need to change tactics

00:51:09.260 --> 00:51:11.460
or change managers. I mean, in a lot of ways,

00:51:11.519 --> 00:51:15.530
I think he's like... He tries to play in a similar

00:51:15.530 --> 00:51:18.349
way to how you guys played under Klopp, but I

00:51:18.349 --> 00:51:22.389
think he tries to cover up the gaps in technicality

00:51:22.389 --> 00:51:26.949
with intensity, which doesn't always work. So

00:51:26.949 --> 00:51:28.969
the players just have to be more and more and

00:51:28.969 --> 00:51:32.550
more intense, which I guess... So my thing with

00:51:32.550 --> 00:51:35.469
him when he was at Bournemouth was that... And

00:51:35.469 --> 00:51:37.449
at the early days of Newcastle, he would just

00:51:37.449 --> 00:51:41.710
kind of outwork teams. Eddie Howe's teams, right?

00:51:41.809 --> 00:51:44.489
He would just have them really fit, really, you

00:51:44.489 --> 00:51:48.369
know. But in the big, like, tactical games, he

00:51:48.369 --> 00:51:50.269
can't keep up with, like, elite managers. And

00:51:50.269 --> 00:51:53.849
he's very open as well, hey? Yes. So that's why,

00:51:53.929 --> 00:51:57.130
like, I also predicted Asin Valatuno in this

00:51:57.130 --> 00:52:01.440
game and it came right because... Yeah, I just

00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:05.599
think Newcastle in the really big games get just

00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:09.099
outfoxed. There's nothing to be said about it,

00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:12.619
you know. Eddie Howe just isn't that guy. Sorry

00:52:12.619 --> 00:52:16.780
to say if you're Eddie Howe backer. Yeah. Lastly,

00:52:16.940 --> 00:52:19.659
we have Brentford. Sorry, I didn't even ask you

00:52:19.659 --> 00:52:21.159
what your thoughts. No, I don't have anything

00:52:21.159 --> 00:52:25.699
to say. Just good goal by Buendia. Yes, very

00:52:25.699 --> 00:52:29.789
good goal. A knuckleball. It's good that all

00:52:29.789 --> 00:52:32.429
the Argentina players are coming in form in time

00:52:32.429 --> 00:52:36.489
for the World Cup. Hopefully Messi can get number

00:52:36.489 --> 00:52:41.250
two. Yes. 100 % backing him for number two. Well,

00:52:41.429 --> 00:52:43.710
South Africa versus Argentina final. In that

00:52:43.710 --> 00:52:46.809
case, I'll support South Africa. I'll still support

00:52:46.809 --> 00:52:50.650
Argentina. Yeah, I know. You're not a patriot.

00:52:53.250 --> 00:52:55.869
But yeah, what about the other Aston Villa goal?

00:52:57.940 --> 00:52:59.719
Reminded me of the second goal. Oli Watkins.

00:52:59.800 --> 00:53:04.260
I like Oli Watkins. I wish we'd completed the

00:53:04.260 --> 00:53:07.860
signing last January, but things didn't work

00:53:07.860 --> 00:53:10.780
out. I guess he was a bit slow to start the season.

00:53:11.139 --> 00:53:14.059
I'm glad he's back on track now. I like watching

00:53:14.059 --> 00:53:18.619
him. I like watching Tielemans. And then last

00:53:18.619 --> 00:53:20.940
of all, we have Brentford 0, Nottingham Forest

00:53:20.940 --> 00:53:29.300
2. What did I even predict this game as? I don't

00:53:29.300 --> 00:53:33.360
remember. I cannot recall either. But yes, I

00:53:33.360 --> 00:53:35.880
said Brentford won, Nottingham Forest, no. So

00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:38.000
I got this totally wrong. How many did you get

00:53:38.000 --> 00:53:41.639
right? I don't know, like four, five? I was probably

00:53:41.639 --> 00:53:45.739
like one. But yes, so I thought this game was

00:53:45.739 --> 00:53:48.440
the exact same as Fulham v Brighton. Brentford

00:53:48.440 --> 00:53:51.110
had all the chances. Like, in the highlights

00:53:51.110 --> 00:53:53.030
package, it was just Brentford chance, Brentford

00:53:53.030 --> 00:53:55.409
chance, Brentford chance. And Nottingham Forest

00:53:55.409 --> 00:53:58.590
had two chances and they scored both. And, yeah,

00:53:58.650 --> 00:54:03.530
just extremely clinical display from them. Nothing

00:54:03.530 --> 00:54:05.650
else to say. Yeah, nothing else to say. I mean,

00:54:05.690 --> 00:54:08.530
I guess Brentford could have been more clinical.

00:54:08.690 --> 00:54:12.250
That's it. Any other points you want to make

00:54:12.250 --> 00:54:14.150
about this weekend's football before we close

00:54:14.150 --> 00:54:18.320
it off? Because I think we're done here. Nothing

00:54:18.320 --> 00:54:22.920
really. It was a good weekend. I mean a good

00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:25.139
weekend from a footballing standpoint I guess.

00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:32.199
Everything is more open now so hopefully it's

00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:36.659
a good end. Lost the final quarter to the season.

00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:41.360
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