WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.700 And welcome back to PD Football. My name is Presh. 00:00:02.700 --> 00:00:05.059 My name is Darren. And how are you doing today? 00:00:05.639 --> 00:00:08.720 I'm okay. I'm just super fatigued, yo. Had a 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:11.980 tough week at work, but we got to keep going. 00:00:12.140 --> 00:00:16.300 Yes. On your end. Myself also, but of work. But 00:00:16.300 --> 00:00:19.120 the main thing that's really grinding my gears, 00:00:19.239 --> 00:00:24.359 and I know this is a football podcast, but the 00:00:24.359 --> 00:00:27.260 Oscar nominations came out. Navatar wasn't nominated. 00:00:27.539 --> 00:00:30.640 Not really. Oh, that's a devastation for you. 00:00:31.579 --> 00:00:36.280 Yes, I'm a big fan. I'm a huge fan. James Cameron 00:00:36.280 --> 00:00:43.320 is Jesus to you. Yes, JC. That's my JC. Yes, 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:45.899 so I think let's just get into the Inter Milan 00:00:45.899 --> 00:00:50.240 -Arsenal game. Before we start, you know, conversation, 00:00:50.659 --> 00:00:55.899 I think let's just talk about their setup. Arteta 00:00:55.899 --> 00:00:59.020 or Arsenal set up in their usual 4 -3 -3 with 00:00:59.020 --> 00:01:02.880 a massively rotated team. Only Zubamendi, Raya 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:05.000 and Timber survived from the draw with Nottingham 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:08.659 Forest on the weekend. In terms of Inter, this 00:01:08.659 --> 00:01:12.400 is the second time I'm watching them this season, 00:01:12.459 --> 00:01:15.640 so I don't have a lot of background of watching 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:19.560 them. But they stuck with their 3 -5 -2, which 00:01:19.560 --> 00:01:22.400 their previous manager Nzaghi instituted, and 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:25.780 their current manager Christian Kivu has kind 00:01:25.780 --> 00:01:29.239 of built on that. Right? Yeah. So, your thoughts 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:33.359 on the game? I mean, I thought it was a comfortable 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:36.040 game for Arsenal. More comfortable than I expected 00:01:36.040 --> 00:01:43.390 it to be, honestly. I thought the first half, 00:01:43.609 --> 00:01:46.689 we started really well. I mean, we have a habit 00:01:46.689 --> 00:01:49.969 of starting well in games, I think, generally 00:01:49.969 --> 00:01:52.530 this season, especially the bigger games. I'd 00:01:52.530 --> 00:01:55.489 say we only really struggled against you guys 00:01:55.489 --> 00:01:58.109 and Chelsea, maybe Man City as well, although 00:01:58.109 --> 00:02:02.450 they sat deep against us, so it was a bit of 00:02:02.450 --> 00:02:06.670 a different test. But as far as yesterday, I 00:02:06.670 --> 00:02:11.409 think it was really impressive to have... Almost 00:02:11.409 --> 00:02:15.289 a B team. I'd say in a way, with Zubamendi and 00:02:15.289 --> 00:02:19.250 Saka, we still had two of our best players. At 00:02:19.250 --> 00:02:25.189 least they would be... I think after Rice, overall 00:02:25.189 --> 00:02:27.949 Zubamendi's been our second most important player 00:02:27.949 --> 00:02:33.550 this season. I think Oteta was looking to keep 00:02:33.550 --> 00:02:37.500 a certain amount of control in the team. the 00:02:37.500 --> 00:02:45.539 three nominal selections. I just think it was 00:02:45.539 --> 00:02:49.560 a comfortable game. It's kind of what I expected 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:54.000 as well. So let's go through it in terms of overall 00:02:54.000 --> 00:02:57.039 play. I thought in the first half Inter pressed 00:02:57.039 --> 00:02:59.939 really aggressively, but it wasn't very effective. 00:03:00.599 --> 00:03:03.199 Because Arsenal usually just pass through their 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:05.759 press. I mean, I think anyone who goes super 00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:09.360 aggressive against Arsenal so far, we haven't 00:03:09.360 --> 00:03:11.840 struggled to play out. I think it's usually the 00:03:11.840 --> 00:03:16.099 more counter -pressing or zonal -orientated presses, 00:03:16.180 --> 00:03:18.159 maybe mid -blocks that we've struggled with. 00:03:19.259 --> 00:03:23.759 Yeah. I think our centre -halves and Zubamendi 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:26.099 and Rice are very comfortable playing out of 00:03:26.099 --> 00:03:32.050 pressure. Where am I? So, in the second half, 00:03:32.150 --> 00:03:34.490 they eased off a bit. Actually, they eased off 00:03:34.490 --> 00:03:36.830 a lot. And I assume this is partly, you know, 00:03:36.830 --> 00:03:40.169 as a tactic and partly due to fatigue. You know, 00:03:40.210 --> 00:03:42.330 you can't press the entire game. And they do 00:03:42.330 --> 00:03:46.469 have an ageing squad, I mean. Yeah, well, every 00:03:46.469 --> 00:03:48.710 year we say Inter has an ageing squad. All these 00:03:48.710 --> 00:03:52.319 guys are like 36 years old at this point. At 00:03:52.319 --> 00:03:55.639 some point it's going to catch up though. And 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:58.419 they're going deep in the Champions League every 00:03:58.419 --> 00:04:02.360 season. On the flip side of that, I thought Arsenal's 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:04.860 press was not as aggressive, but much more effective 00:04:04.860 --> 00:04:07.659 and well worked. I counted at least three times 00:04:07.659 --> 00:04:09.340 in the first half where the Inter player was 00:04:09.340 --> 00:04:11.620 just caught dawdling on the ball and a group 00:04:11.620 --> 00:04:14.520 of Arsenal players were just all over them. That 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:16.399 being said, Arsenal's press didn't need to be 00:04:16.399 --> 00:04:18.180 great because Inter weren't that good on the 00:04:18.180 --> 00:04:20.470 ball. They gave the ball enough... They gave 00:04:20.470 --> 00:04:23.629 away the ball a number of times and it was, you 00:04:23.629 --> 00:04:26.370 know, not a very good display from my perspective. 00:04:27.949 --> 00:04:32.250 Yeah, I mean, I think... I don't think Arsenal 00:04:32.250 --> 00:04:38.649 were at their best either, so I think the argument 00:04:38.649 --> 00:04:41.149 could be made either way. I mean, I guess you 00:04:41.149 --> 00:04:44.470 could say it's a B team, but they're both top 00:04:44.470 --> 00:04:48.439 of their league, so I think Inter... some sloppy 00:04:48.439 --> 00:04:50.699 play. Arsenal also had some sloppy play, I don't 00:04:50.699 --> 00:04:54.959 think, intercapitalized on it. But I think in 00:04:54.959 --> 00:04:57.870 particular I was happy with the... Miles Lewis, 00:04:58.069 --> 00:04:59.970 Skelly, because he hasn't been playing well. 00:05:00.069 --> 00:05:02.569 I think that was a better performance from him, 00:05:02.649 --> 00:05:06.910 particularly out of possession. He didn't get... 00:05:06.910 --> 00:05:09.350 I mean, the test is not the same, I guess, as 00:05:09.350 --> 00:05:13.709 maybe he'll have this weekend with Diallo. But 00:05:13.709 --> 00:05:15.949 we'll see. Well, do you think he's going to play 00:05:15.949 --> 00:05:18.490 this weekend? Or do you think it might be Timba 00:05:18.490 --> 00:05:20.850 on the left? Yeah, I think he would go, but I 00:05:20.850 --> 00:05:23.769 think he will play at some point. in the game. 00:05:23.870 --> 00:05:26.810 I think he will come on whether it's later on 00:05:26.810 --> 00:05:30.069 or whether he starts, I don't know. But I do 00:05:30.069 --> 00:05:33.029 think he will be introduced at some point. Back 00:05:33.029 --> 00:05:35.269 to this game, in terms of Inter's goal threat, 00:05:35.389 --> 00:05:37.850 I thought their best moments came on the counter. 00:05:38.389 --> 00:05:41.269 They engineered some good chances from it, but 00:05:41.269 --> 00:05:45.149 unfortunately they couldn't capitalize on all 00:05:45.149 --> 00:05:47.569 of their, not all of their chances, but you'd 00:05:47.569 --> 00:05:49.589 hope that a few of their chances they would capitalize 00:05:49.589 --> 00:05:54.100 on. When he was substituted, the commentator 00:05:54.100 --> 00:05:56.399 said Lautaro Martinez wasn't playing his best 00:05:56.399 --> 00:05:59.100 due to injury. So I don't know how true that 00:05:59.100 --> 00:06:01.980 is, but certainly his replacement Esposito looked 00:06:01.980 --> 00:06:04.279 better than him. So I think Esposito should have 00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:08.060 started the game. Because Martinez had a very 00:06:08.060 --> 00:06:10.899 poor game, I thought. It depends what their thinking 00:06:10.899 --> 00:06:14.220 was, I guess. Maybe they were... I know Martinez 00:06:14.220 --> 00:06:17.220 works hard out of possession. Like, I haven't 00:06:17.220 --> 00:06:19.540 watched much of Inter under Trevo, honestly, 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:24.149 because... I just haven't watched much football 00:06:24.149 --> 00:06:26.230 outside of the Premier League and the Liga this 00:06:26.230 --> 00:06:32.110 season. And I think, what is it? You can only 00:06:32.110 --> 00:06:34.029 beat what's in front of you, as they say, for 00:06:34.029 --> 00:06:37.750 both teams. I think even if Inter had won, you 00:06:37.750 --> 00:06:39.709 could have said, oh, this was Arsenal's B team, 00:06:39.829 --> 00:06:44.230 but it wouldn't have really been much of an excuse. 00:06:44.250 --> 00:06:48.329 So I think Inter... For a team that's top of 00:06:48.329 --> 00:06:50.110 the league, you would have expected more, but 00:06:50.110 --> 00:06:52.110 at the same time, I think Arsenal were good enough 00:06:52.110 --> 00:06:55.490 that you could see a clear difference in the 00:06:55.490 --> 00:06:58.769 quality of both teams. Whether that'll tell in 00:06:58.769 --> 00:07:01.490 the later stages, there's no knowing because, 00:07:01.629 --> 00:07:03.990 I mean, we saw it with PSG last season. Well, 00:07:04.009 --> 00:07:05.790 there's other factors that come in later in the 00:07:05.790 --> 00:07:11.689 season, like mentality and like, yeah, that's 00:07:11.689 --> 00:07:14.339 it mainly. You can win a bunch of games at the 00:07:14.339 --> 00:07:16.040 beginning of the season, but when it's crunch 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:17.680 time and you're under pressure, that's when, 00:07:17.699 --> 00:07:21.100 you know, the real test comes out, you know. 00:07:21.379 --> 00:07:23.620 I mean, yeah, and then it's just margins at the 00:07:23.620 --> 00:07:26.579 end of the day. And like kind of having to, if 00:07:26.579 --> 00:07:28.379 you're, you know, like challenging for your league 00:07:28.379 --> 00:07:30.360 and you want to go deep in the Champions League, 00:07:30.379 --> 00:07:33.480 you know, maintaining a high level through all 00:07:33.480 --> 00:07:36.139 those games is a very difficult process, you 00:07:36.139 --> 00:07:39.699 know. And yeah, and keeping the... the squad 00:07:39.699 --> 00:07:41.560 fit and happy. There's a lot of things that come 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:45.160 into play, but I think overall, Arsenal have 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:47.600 been the best team in the Champions League so 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:52.100 far. So, I think that showed again. I think Inter 00:07:52.100 --> 00:07:53.879 were one of the better teams in the Champions 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:57.220 League and there was a clear quality gap. I would 00:07:57.220 --> 00:07:59.980 say that, very interestingly, the stats say that 00:07:59.980 --> 00:08:02.319 the teams were pretty similar. And I was shocked 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:04.680 at that because I also felt Arsenal kind of dominated, 00:08:04.819 --> 00:08:10.360 right? Inter had 15 shots to Arsenal's 14. Yeah, 00:08:10.379 --> 00:08:14.540 but I mean the... And then Inter had 4 shots 00:08:14.540 --> 00:08:17.120 on target to Arsenal's 5. So very comparable 00:08:17.120 --> 00:08:19.699 shots. Yeah, but a lot of their shots were long 00:08:19.699 --> 00:08:23.740 range, I do remember, so I think... Yeah, and 00:08:23.740 --> 00:08:26.259 then possession -wise, it was 51 % to Inter, 00:08:26.339 --> 00:08:30.480 49 Arsenal. So, you know, like in -your -face 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:33.399 stats, I don't know what to call it, like the 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:35.950 basic stats. Yeah, I mean, if you just looked 00:08:35.950 --> 00:08:38.429 at the basic stats... Yeah, it was quite an equal 00:08:38.429 --> 00:08:42.909 game. Yeah, I mean, but so... The Madrid and 00:08:42.909 --> 00:08:45.730 Marseille game was equal in stats as well. I 00:08:45.730 --> 00:08:48.759 mean, the Madrid and... Monaco game was equal 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:51.740 in stats pretty much as well. Well, I was just 00:08:51.740 --> 00:08:53.639 pointing out that it's interesting. I'm not saying 00:08:53.639 --> 00:08:56.720 that's the be -all end -all. I would also say 00:08:56.720 --> 00:08:58.740 that if we took a look at the advanced stats, 00:08:58.899 --> 00:09:01.779 like expected goals, that's where you see Arsenal 00:09:01.779 --> 00:09:05.299 were clearly in front. So Inter had 1 .38 expected 00:09:05.299 --> 00:09:10.259 goals to Arsenal's 2 .39, which Arsenal slightly 00:09:10.259 --> 00:09:13.259 overperformed, Inter slightly underperformed. 00:09:14.750 --> 00:09:17.070 you know it was fairly equal i'm not fairly equal 00:09:17.070 --> 00:09:21.210 i mean both teams fairly performed according 00:09:21.210 --> 00:09:24.590 to the xg i should say that yeah right so i think 00:09:24.590 --> 00:09:28.590 it was a fair result uh given uh the xg okay 00:09:28.590 --> 00:09:32.289 uh uh so we've spoken about general play let's 00:09:32.289 --> 00:09:35.889 get into individual moments uh the first thing 00:09:35.889 --> 00:09:37.649 i want to speak about is arsenal's first goal 00:09:37.649 --> 00:09:41.230 it was a well -worked team goal right the last 00:09:41.230 --> 00:09:44.230 pass or It actually looked like a scuff shot 00:09:44.230 --> 00:09:47.929 from Timber. You know, it makes it look a little 00:09:47.929 --> 00:09:50.210 bit untidy, but all the interplay before that 00:09:50.210 --> 00:09:53.210 was really excellent leading up to the goal from 00:09:53.210 --> 00:09:56.549 Jesus. Yeah, I agree. I mean, there's not much 00:09:56.549 --> 00:09:59.129 we can add to that, I think. Yeah, it was a bit 00:09:59.129 --> 00:10:02.070 of a throwback Arsenal goal, a lot of people 00:10:02.070 --> 00:10:05.610 said, to the Wenger days. But I think the... 00:10:05.610 --> 00:10:09.309 I mean, there would be a lucid interpretation 00:10:09.309 --> 00:10:12.440 because I think... It's a goal we've seen a lot 00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:15.600 under Arteta, particularly with the holding of 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:18.600 the diamond shape. I don't think Wenger was that 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:22.620 much of a protagonist of keeping four players 00:10:22.620 --> 00:10:27.460 close together all the time. I understand the 00:10:27.460 --> 00:10:29.419 short passes, why people could have seen it like 00:10:29.419 --> 00:10:31.980 that, but I think it is a goal that's common 00:10:31.980 --> 00:10:34.259 under Arteta. We've scored many goals like that 00:10:34.259 --> 00:10:39.000 before. Then Inter's goal came from the counter 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:41.419 -attack, which I mentioned in overall play, and 00:10:41.419 --> 00:10:43.980 this is the only time it worked. That being said, 00:10:44.120 --> 00:10:46.600 even though it was a counter, it had to be finished 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:48.899 off excellently by Suchic. Yeah, it was a sensation. 00:10:49.159 --> 00:10:54.100 That was a very... It was kind of like he didn't 00:10:54.100 --> 00:10:57.039 know what to do. There was a moment of hesitation, 00:10:57.240 --> 00:10:59.419 but when he got onto it, he just really whacked 00:10:59.419 --> 00:11:02.059 it, and I was like, wow, take my hat off to you, 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:06.659 Suchic. It was a great finish. Yes, then we get 00:11:06.659 --> 00:11:09.059 to Arsenal's second goal. It was from a corner 00:11:09.059 --> 00:11:12.379 and really nothing to be said about it. Lautaro 00:11:12.379 --> 00:11:15.000 Martinez must have hit her and then Jesus reacted 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:18.879 first and capitalized. So, yeah, like I was mentioning, 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:22.620 Lautaro Martinez, poor game. Some people say 00:11:22.620 --> 00:11:24.440 I have an agenda against him. I don't know why. 00:11:24.659 --> 00:11:26.820 I just point out the fact that he's not good. 00:11:27.620 --> 00:11:31.320 I mean, I guess some people say, like, they... 00:11:31.980 --> 00:11:35.700 I guess they use his stats. Again, he's a player 00:11:35.700 --> 00:11:39.200 who has good stats. Stat padding against Bologna 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:43.279 and them, man. I mean, he did well in the Copa 00:11:43.279 --> 00:11:48.039 America Argentina one. Di Maria, Messi, De Paul 00:11:48.039 --> 00:11:50.820 all holding his hands. McAllister. That was the 00:11:50.820 --> 00:11:55.399 World Cup. He was probably the 2021 Copa America. 00:11:55.919 --> 00:11:58.899 He was probably second to Messi in that tournament. 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:03.200 And did they win it? Yes. What? They won? Oh, 00:12:03.379 --> 00:12:05.419 that was before the World Cup, eh? Yeah. Yeah. 00:12:05.860 --> 00:12:09.460 Alright, whatever. Fuck him. I don't care. You 00:12:09.460 --> 00:12:12.139 were saying? Oh, I was saying he had a poor game. 00:12:12.259 --> 00:12:16.360 Because he did have a poor game. Anyway, Arsenal's 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:19.759 third goal came from a counter. Martinelli played 00:12:19.759 --> 00:12:23.019 an excellent ball over the top and Jokers got 00:12:23.019 --> 00:12:27.200 very lucky with the rebound. A missed control 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:32.220 from Saka. Yes, but nevertheless a good finish. 00:12:33.320 --> 00:12:36.039 I think Sama could have done better as well. 00:12:36.879 --> 00:12:40.019 He seemed a bit slow. Maybe his age was catching 00:12:40.019 --> 00:12:42.740 up with him. I don't know. Was it a chip or what 00:12:42.740 --> 00:12:47.440 do we call that? I think he passed it in. Yeah, 00:12:47.440 --> 00:12:49.960 it was a very curling finish. I don't know what 00:12:49.960 --> 00:12:53.220 to call it precisely, but a cultured finish from 00:12:53.220 --> 00:12:55.980 Jokers. Yeah. Are you going to apologize to him? 00:12:56.440 --> 00:13:01.320 No. Oh, okay. Jesus still starts until Havertz 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:04.740 gets back. I see. And you think he's a lost cause? 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:09.299 No, I don't think he's a lost cause. I don't 00:13:09.299 --> 00:13:15.549 hate him. If he's an impact player, if he's willing 00:13:15.549 --> 00:13:17.929 to be that, I would like him. But I don't think 00:13:17.929 --> 00:13:23.509 we should have made him our... Starting nine. 00:13:24.370 --> 00:13:26.330 Yeah, I don't think he will be the starting nine 00:13:26.330 --> 00:13:29.490 if Havertz is fit. So I don't mind him as a backup. 00:13:29.629 --> 00:13:31.730 But I don't think we should have made him our 00:13:31.730 --> 00:13:34.690 marquee signing, should I say. I see. We shouldn't 00:13:34.690 --> 00:13:38.649 have given him our most important jersey either. 00:13:39.370 --> 00:13:44.399 What jersey? Jersey number nine. Oh, I thought 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:47.860 it would be 14. Oh, I mean, I guess it depends 00:13:47.860 --> 00:13:51.440 on how you look at it. Yeah, I mean... Because, 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:54.580 like, who's the iconic, like, Arsenal number 00:13:54.580 --> 00:13:59.220 9? Well, for me, I think... Wasn't David Rockhurst 00:13:59.220 --> 00:14:02.299 number 9? Damn, I don't know who the fuck that 00:14:02.299 --> 00:14:04.960 is. And Ian Wright? Okay, Ian Wright, I know 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:08.100 Ian Wright. Yeah, so... Top striker. But, like... 00:14:08.100 --> 00:14:12.049 I don't... I mean, I identify more with them 00:14:12.049 --> 00:14:14.830 on a political level, so I heard they, like, 00:14:14.929 --> 00:14:19.029 that's my favourite number. The nine? Yeah. Alright. 00:14:19.529 --> 00:14:22.730 So, it's more for off -the -pitch reasons. Alright, 00:14:22.769 --> 00:14:27.710 I see. Yeah. So, any other points you want to 00:14:27.710 --> 00:14:31.789 make about Arsenal into Milan? No, not really. 00:14:31.870 --> 00:14:37.610 I think it was a good game. Arsenal won. easy 00:14:37.610 --> 00:14:43.549 victory alright great analysis thanks no I mean 00:14:43.549 --> 00:14:47.429 if I do have to say anything it's just that I 00:14:47.429 --> 00:14:51.470 mean I don't know I would like I don't know if 00:14:51.470 --> 00:14:55.269 Inter have been better but I would say it's not 00:14:55.269 --> 00:14:57.889 a good sign of Serie A if that's the best team 00:14:57.889 --> 00:15:01.149 because it's probably one of the easier games 00:15:01.149 --> 00:15:08.950 we've had recently I see We also, when we played 00:15:08.950 --> 00:15:12.330 them, they were quite easy as well. So, yeah, 00:15:13.129 --> 00:15:17.029 Serie A are not looking good. Anyway, do you 00:15:17.029 --> 00:15:18.629 want to move on to the Marseille versus Liverpool 00:15:18.629 --> 00:15:21.210 game? Yeah, the game you thought you guys were 00:15:21.210 --> 00:15:24.610 going to get thrashed in. Yes. Before that, let's 00:15:24.610 --> 00:15:26.750 not talk about that. That should be in the miscellaneous 00:15:26.750 --> 00:15:28.429 section, but I'm just going to mention it here. 00:15:28.750 --> 00:15:34.149 I want slot card. Oh, you've fully decided now? 00:15:35.169 --> 00:15:40.730 totally slot out if say there was like a yeah 00:15:40.730 --> 00:15:43.389 you see i was right now i got stuck in trying 00:15:43.389 --> 00:15:45.750 to justify my thinking but your curious did have 00:15:45.750 --> 00:15:48.690 number 14 and then i was like when you said what 00:15:48.690 --> 00:15:51.529 number does he have i got confused and i'm like 00:15:51.529 --> 00:15:53.970 but isn't jesus nine then i was confused and 00:15:53.970 --> 00:15:56.629 i'm like okay now i have to think about number 00:15:56.629 --> 00:15:59.789 nine and make it sound something that's rational 00:15:59.789 --> 00:16:02.950 on the page yeah i'm i swear number 14 is the 00:16:02.950 --> 00:16:06.610 iconic arsenal number Yeah, so I just had to 00:16:06.610 --> 00:16:08.730 go along with what you said, but then now I'm 00:16:08.730 --> 00:16:10.889 like, no, wait, Hazen scored. I remember him 00:16:10.889 --> 00:16:13.610 holding his jersey as number nine. Hazen Gjokera 00:16:13.610 --> 00:16:19.289 is number 14. All right. Anyway, back to the 00:16:19.289 --> 00:16:22.210 Marseille -Liverpool game. Before the game starts, 00:16:22.669 --> 00:16:27.690 slots press conference pisses me off. If, say, 00:16:27.809 --> 00:16:32.649 being slot out is like a scale of 0 to 100. And 00:16:32.649 --> 00:16:35.789 past 50 % means you're slot out. What did he 00:16:35.789 --> 00:16:40.049 say? I missed that. He said people were questioning 00:16:40.049 --> 00:16:42.710 whether he can be successful in the future for 00:16:42.710 --> 00:16:45.490 Liverpool. And he said he's surprised to hear 00:16:45.490 --> 00:16:47.850 that because this is a club that's only won two 00:16:47.850 --> 00:16:52.710 championships in 30 years. Which... That's a 00:16:52.710 --> 00:16:55.330 diss. He's dissing us. He's dissing the fans. 00:16:55.929 --> 00:16:59.929 Right? Yeah. And fuck him. That's all I can say, 00:16:59.970 --> 00:17:05.160 bro. You know, you can play abysmal football 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:08.339 and I'll forgive that because I believe he has 00:17:08.339 --> 00:17:11.380 the ability to turn it around. But he has no 00:17:11.380 --> 00:17:17.160 tact, no like, what's the word? We, as the fans, 00:17:17.380 --> 00:17:19.799 can swear his mother every day for the rest of 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:22.299 his life in front of him. But if he says one 00:17:22.299 --> 00:17:24.799 word to us, he's in the wrong. Do you get what 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:29.180 I'm saying? Yeah. He doesn't have the... He's 00:17:29.180 --> 00:17:31.539 not allowed to attack us in any way. That's just 00:17:31.539 --> 00:17:35.119 the... He doesn't have the same jeopardy. Yeah, 00:17:35.180 --> 00:17:37.700 it's like... I don't know how to explain it, 00:17:37.740 --> 00:17:39.380 but it's just fucked up that he said that to 00:17:39.380 --> 00:17:43.779 us, you know? And yeah, if, say, being slot out 00:17:43.779 --> 00:17:47.839 is like 0 to 100, and 51 % means you're slot 00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:52.500 out, I was, let's say, like 20 out of 500 last 00:17:52.500 --> 00:17:58.730 week. This week, I'm 51%. I want him out. So, 00:17:58.789 --> 00:18:01.450 but is that going to turn into an agenda? What 00:18:01.450 --> 00:18:04.369 if you guys play well or win the Champions League? 00:18:04.569 --> 00:18:06.250 We can win the Champions League. You don't diss 00:18:06.250 --> 00:18:09.529 the fans. He has to come out and apologize to 00:18:09.529 --> 00:18:12.069 the fans. Guardiola's criticized City's fans 00:18:12.069 --> 00:18:14.430 many times. You can criticize the fans. Don't 00:18:14.430 --> 00:18:18.490 diss us. Come out and apologize to the fans, 00:18:18.549 --> 00:18:22.609 slot. I really can't get behind this. I'm slot 00:18:22.609 --> 00:18:26.470 out. But anyway, let's get to the game itself. 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:31.579 Being a Liverpool fan, what did you make of it? 00:18:31.859 --> 00:18:34.240 Well, first of all, Marseille, the fans had a 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:39.539 Beatles Tifo. I noticed that. I was actually 00:18:39.539 --> 00:18:42.680 going to ask you, is that John Lennon? But yeah, 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:45.299 you can explain now, I guess. It's just cool 00:18:45.299 --> 00:18:49.519 that the French, they do Tifos. I don't want 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:51.500 to say it's just a French thing, but every time 00:18:51.500 --> 00:18:54.720 I watch a French team in the Champions League, 00:18:54.759 --> 00:18:59.309 they have an insane Tifo. Yeah, that was kind 00:18:59.309 --> 00:19:02.410 of kissing up to you guys a bit, though. It's 00:19:02.410 --> 00:19:04.569 the Beatles reading a newspaper of Marseille 00:19:04.569 --> 00:19:09.170 winning against us. So, yeah. Like, it's a very 00:19:09.170 --> 00:19:11.009 belaboured point, but nevertheless, I thought 00:19:11.009 --> 00:19:14.829 it was a fun little thing. You know, a shared 00:19:14.829 --> 00:19:19.109 moment between fans. But, yeah. Speaking about 00:19:19.109 --> 00:19:21.849 on -the -pitch stuff now, I'm done with my little 00:19:21.849 --> 00:19:25.390 gripes off the pitch. We played in a 4 -2 -2 00:19:25.390 --> 00:19:31.170 -2. Right. Back four, as usual. Pivot of Gravenberg 00:19:31.170 --> 00:19:37.450 and McAllister. That's... Two tens. Wurz and 00:19:37.450 --> 00:19:40.509 Samoslai. And two strikers, Salah and Ekotike. 00:19:40.869 --> 00:19:43.410 That's what Thomas Tuchel used to use a lot at 00:19:43.410 --> 00:19:48.309 PSG. Yes. And you would think, oh, okay, that's 00:19:48.309 --> 00:19:51.410 very narrow. But the fullbacks were pushed all 00:19:51.410 --> 00:19:53.990 the way up. They were... At some points, it looked 00:19:53.990 --> 00:19:58.460 like a 4 -2 -4. That's how, you know, aggressively 00:19:58.460 --> 00:20:03.420 high they were. I guess that's to kind of combat 00:20:03.420 --> 00:20:08.900 the Zerbies 4 -2 -4, right? I don't know what 00:20:08.900 --> 00:20:11.960 to... How can it be a 4 -2 -4? No, the fullbacks 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:15.720 are up, right? So it's a 2 -2 -4. Or 2 -2 -2 00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:19.039 -4. Yeah, but I guess it's numerical superiority 00:20:19.039 --> 00:20:22.339 is the thinking, right? And then Gravenberg and 00:20:22.339 --> 00:20:25.869 McAllister split. you know, to cover whichever 00:20:25.869 --> 00:20:30.730 side, you know, the attack is coming on. So say 00:20:30.730 --> 00:20:32.750 Kirk is all the way up and they play a ball down 00:20:32.750 --> 00:20:35.950 our left, McAllister will shift over to left 00:20:35.950 --> 00:20:39.430 back to cover the space. So we, you know, we 00:20:39.430 --> 00:20:43.269 were well covered in terms of counters and, you 00:20:43.269 --> 00:20:45.150 know, there wasn't a lot of space for them to 00:20:45.150 --> 00:20:46.569 operate. And that basically, that's what I'm 00:20:46.569 --> 00:20:51.740 saying. This 4 -2 -2. I noticed Kirk is making 00:20:51.740 --> 00:20:54.039 a lot of runs on the inside channel as well. 00:20:54.160 --> 00:20:58.240 Yes, I will get to that just now. Actually, we 00:20:58.240 --> 00:20:59.940 can just talk about it now. I just thought Kirk 00:20:59.940 --> 00:21:02.920 had a sensational game. This is the reason or 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:07.480 the type of game that we bought him for. 1v1 00:21:07.480 --> 00:21:13.319 defending. Any player you can coach into having 00:21:13.319 --> 00:21:18.279 a good team defense, right? But what you can't 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:20.660 coach is good 1v1 defending, I don't think. He 00:21:20.660 --> 00:21:23.019 looked a bit like Joao Cancelo when he played 00:21:23.019 --> 00:21:26.200 at left back. Yeah. In the Man City, yeah. You 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:30.160 could say that. He was bombing up and down, put 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:34.099 in a few good crosses. The crosses weren't 100 00:21:34.099 --> 00:21:38.980 % on the money. He has to get used to it. Like 00:21:38.980 --> 00:21:41.579 you said before, I don't think with Gakpo he 00:21:41.579 --> 00:21:44.039 got enough service, so he probably hasn't had 00:21:44.039 --> 00:21:46.880 as much practice crossing as... Because I just 00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:49.180 remember when Robertson signed and Robertson 00:21:49.180 --> 00:21:50.839 played his first couple of games, he would just 00:21:50.839 --> 00:21:54.259 whoop it in perfectly, just on the person's foot. 00:21:54.359 --> 00:21:56.819 And they were just going to tap it in. Kirk is, 00:21:57.019 --> 00:22:01.099 you need to work a little bit more to, you know, 00:22:01.099 --> 00:22:04.920 control his ball and then play it. So it's not 00:22:04.920 --> 00:22:08.680 as good, but hopefully I'm glad the lad is learning. 00:22:09.240 --> 00:22:11.359 He's not like a waste of money that he's, you 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:15.579 know. We can use him in the future. So both defensively 00:22:15.579 --> 00:22:18.440 and offensively, I've got to tip my cap to Milos 00:22:18.440 --> 00:22:21.079 Kerkis. Was he your man of the match yesterday? 00:22:21.539 --> 00:22:25.140 Or was it Wurz? No, it was him, Kerkis. I think 00:22:25.140 --> 00:22:29.140 Kerkis had the biggest impact. Again, both forwards 00:22:29.140 --> 00:22:32.720 and backwards. Yeah, it deserves his stubbornness, 00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:37.940 I guess. It allowed your midfield, like Diamond, 00:22:38.059 --> 00:22:39.720 whether you were defending or attacking, you 00:22:39.720 --> 00:22:42.759 always had an extra man. I think it was also 00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:45.359 really easy with his man -orientated pressing 00:22:45.359 --> 00:22:47.680 for you guys to continuously play through, whether 00:22:47.680 --> 00:22:50.920 you stretched them or made the game narrow. From 00:22:50.920 --> 00:22:53.460 even the moments I watched, I didn't really see 00:22:53.460 --> 00:22:56.460 Marseille, which is kind of, even from his days 00:22:56.460 --> 00:22:58.900 at Brighton, been his problem. He's a bit too 00:22:58.900 --> 00:23:02.420 open. If you can't consistently break his press, 00:23:02.539 --> 00:23:04.839 I think he falls off. I know you consider him 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:06.960 one of the best. I wouldn't say he's one of the 00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:08.559 best. He's my favourite. There's a difference 00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:12.460 between best and favourite. I wouldn't want him 00:23:12.460 --> 00:23:15.920 to become Liverpool manager because he's too 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:20.299 open. He's too erratic. He would fight with the 00:23:20.299 --> 00:23:24.720 board, complain about signings, derail our project. 00:23:26.319 --> 00:23:29.039 I would love to have him in the league. He's 00:23:29.039 --> 00:23:32.660 a character. And he develops good attacking players. 00:23:33.079 --> 00:23:36.619 Maybe like a Bournemouth who don't really... 00:23:36.619 --> 00:23:41.240 Imagine a team that's not going to get relegated, 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:45.220 but they're not really going to get any higher. 00:23:45.819 --> 00:23:49.839 Maybe like a Fulham. I would love to see Deserby 00:23:49.839 --> 00:23:52.740 at a Fulham. Yeah, that could make sense. Maybe 00:23:52.740 --> 00:23:57.440 even Tottenham right now. Could be. Was that 00:23:57.440 --> 00:23:59.299 just you being a dick to Tottenham because you're 00:23:59.299 --> 00:24:02.039 an Arsenal fan? Oh, no, not really, but I think... 00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:03.720 I don't think the service is good enough for 00:24:03.720 --> 00:24:06.519 Spurs if... No, no, I don't think in the long 00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:08.700 run, maybe if their intention is to compete, 00:24:08.819 --> 00:24:12.319 but he could take their current squad and turn 00:24:12.319 --> 00:24:14.259 them into a European -level team, I believe. 00:24:14.480 --> 00:24:17.900 Could be. But yeah, defensively, he's not the 00:24:17.900 --> 00:24:21.640 best. He's not at all. Yeah, he leaves everything 00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:24.799 quite open. It's just very much reliant on the 00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:27.400 intensity of his pressing, and if you break the 00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:32.940 press, it's very easy. So yeah, the entirety 00:24:32.940 --> 00:24:35.319 of my notes all boils down to Marseille were 00:24:35.319 --> 00:24:40.420 bad, and we just kind of walked over them. What 00:24:40.420 --> 00:24:42.839 I do appreciate is that we were more clinical. 00:24:43.450 --> 00:24:47.789 Than we have been in recent weeks. A goal. A 00:24:47.789 --> 00:24:50.230 first goal comes from Sabot's free kick. With 00:24:50.230 --> 00:24:53.109 a poor wall. A poor wall. Yes. We were watching 00:24:53.109 --> 00:24:56.029 the highlights. And the commentator was like. 00:24:56.109 --> 00:25:02.769 Oh that's a poor wall. Yeah. Nothing we can say 00:25:02.769 --> 00:25:05.470 about that. That happens once in a while. It 00:25:05.470 --> 00:25:07.569 was a good free kick though. Clever. Yeah. We 00:25:07.569 --> 00:25:11.269 can't. You know. Add that to our analysis. That's 00:25:11.269 --> 00:25:15.319 not a. That's an. an anomaly that's not a regular 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:18.380 game state you know what i'm saying second goal 00:25:18.380 --> 00:25:21.400 that we can say is a good thing because it's 00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:27.000 from wing play from from pong i just don't get 00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:29.400 why slot didn't play from punk from the beginning 00:25:29.400 --> 00:25:34.640 right apparently uh not apparently well it's 00:25:34.640 --> 00:25:38.440 uh from pong played in a back three at uh leverkusen 00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:42.089 right So I assumed he wouldn't be the best defensively, 00:25:42.089 --> 00:25:44.230 but Slott didn't even give him a chance there. 00:25:44.609 --> 00:25:47.630 Slott just didn't play him, would play him with 00:25:47.630 --> 00:25:51.049 like the last five minutes of games as a right 00:25:51.049 --> 00:25:54.490 winger. He wouldn't give him a shot. Now in these 00:25:54.490 --> 00:25:56.569 last like three or four games, he's given him 00:25:56.569 --> 00:26:01.029 a shot and he's done wonderfully well. So yeah, 00:26:01.069 --> 00:26:04.650 I just don't get it why he wasn't thrown in, 00:26:04.730 --> 00:26:07.799 you know. in the deep end and let, you know, 00:26:07.819 --> 00:26:10.779 just allow to swim because he hasn't put a foot 00:26:10.779 --> 00:26:13.960 wrong, in my opinion. Every game he's played. 00:26:14.339 --> 00:26:16.599 Yeah, I mean, we wouldn't know what the coach 00:26:16.599 --> 00:26:19.359 was thinking is behind that. Obviously... And 00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:21.599 the big... Oh, sorry to interrupt. No, no, no. 00:26:21.660 --> 00:26:23.740 The big problem we've been having is breaking 00:26:23.740 --> 00:26:28.700 down teams. And, okay, let me not say that. So, 00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:30.519 earlier in the season, we were playing with the 00:26:30.519 --> 00:26:33.339 front player of Gakpo, who's more of a cut -in 00:26:33.339 --> 00:26:36.009 -and -shoot guy. Salah, who's more of a cut -in 00:26:36.009 --> 00:26:38.210 -and -shoot guy, and Isaac, who's a striker, 00:26:38.250 --> 00:26:40.650 who's a shoot guy. So all of our guys are shooting, 00:26:40.789 --> 00:26:44.289 but nobody's passing. Frimpong solves not all 00:26:44.289 --> 00:26:46.210 of that, but a lot of that by crossing. He's 00:26:46.210 --> 00:26:49.970 the guy who attacks, he takes on a man and crosses, 00:26:50.250 --> 00:26:53.730 or, you know, cuts back, whatever. He would have 00:26:53.730 --> 00:26:56.210 solved so many problems earlier in the season. 00:26:57.049 --> 00:26:59.829 Slott, you know, speaking about Deserby's stubbornness, 00:26:59.829 --> 00:27:02.410 Slott is very stubborn in that, like, unless 00:27:02.410 --> 00:27:05.420 injuries... force him to play a player, he will 00:27:05.420 --> 00:27:08.380 refuse to, you know, play that player. He has 00:27:08.380 --> 00:27:11.259 his favorites, and they're usually Dutch. And, 00:27:11.259 --> 00:27:15.119 yeah. Salah. Do you want to speak about Salah? 00:27:15.460 --> 00:27:18.140 Well, do you want to speak about Salah? I thought 00:27:18.140 --> 00:27:21.259 he was poor. His few touches that he did have, 00:27:21.500 --> 00:27:26.119 not great. That being said, I'd rather have him 00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:29.900 than Gakpo. Gakpo is, at current moment, a net 00:27:29.900 --> 00:27:36.140 negative. I do realize that he scored, but he's 00:27:36.140 --> 00:27:39.059 so selfish. He's so selfish and one -dimensional. 00:27:39.700 --> 00:27:44.940 Kirquez has been underutilized to the nth degree 00:27:44.940 --> 00:27:51.259 because of Gakpo's selfishness. He's killed so 00:27:51.259 --> 00:27:53.440 many attacks because he wants to cut in and shoot 00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:56.539 instead of actually playing whoever is the best 00:27:56.539 --> 00:28:01.289 position to be played in, right? Yes, I would 00:28:01.289 --> 00:28:04.029 rather have Salah than Gakpo, but ideally I wouldn't 00:28:04.029 --> 00:28:07.210 have either. Right now? At current moment within 00:28:07.210 --> 00:28:10.089 our squad, if we had to play the same formation, 00:28:10.349 --> 00:28:12.750 I would rather have Isaac instead of... Isaac 00:28:12.750 --> 00:28:16.089 and Ekotika as the two strikers in the system. 00:28:16.390 --> 00:28:19.430 Do you think that could work? Why not? Because 00:28:19.430 --> 00:28:25.400 I don't think Isaac's... Wing play is a bit overrated. 00:28:25.460 --> 00:28:27.059 I think he's a better... Well, he's not on the 00:28:27.059 --> 00:28:29.380 wing. It's, like I said, 4 -2 -2 -2. But I think 00:28:29.380 --> 00:28:31.240 the positions he'd have to occupy, I don't think... 00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:35.079 I think his elite is a traditional 9 and nothing 00:28:35.079 --> 00:28:38.160 else. Okay. I don't think he's good at dropping 00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:40.180 in. I don't rate his link -up play that well. 00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:42.420 I think he's a good dribbler and a good number 00:28:42.420 --> 00:28:45.220 9. Alright, well, you just sound salty as fuck, 00:28:45.380 --> 00:28:48.160 dog. Like, during... Was he linked to the Arsenal 00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:50.980 and he turned you down? So was Iketike, but... 00:28:51.130 --> 00:28:53.490 I love him. I would listen to the whole attack 00:28:53.490 --> 00:28:55.990 around Ekotike. Okay, but I'm just saying, Isaac, 00:28:56.190 --> 00:29:00.369 top player, bro. I just don't see why we couldn't 00:29:00.369 --> 00:29:02.710 get the most out of him. I think it's very doable 00:29:02.710 --> 00:29:06.410 that we play with both Ekotike and Isaac. We 00:29:06.410 --> 00:29:09.609 just got to get rid of Salah. 400 ,000 great 00:29:09.609 --> 00:29:13.440 British pounds per week. I mean... That's your 00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:15.240 opinion. And he's doing that. It's not my opinion 00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:17.240 that he's on 400 ,000 pounds a week. That's a 00:29:17.240 --> 00:29:19.180 fact. No, I'm saying it's your opinion that the 00:29:19.180 --> 00:29:23.019 team would improve with Ekotike and Isak as opposed 00:29:23.019 --> 00:29:27.220 to Salah and Ekotike. He's 34 years old. I'm 00:29:27.220 --> 00:29:29.140 talking about at this moment. I think you'd have 00:29:29.140 --> 00:29:31.259 to get a new winger, but I don't think the dynamic 00:29:31.259 --> 00:29:34.680 would... I really think... With two number nines... 00:29:34.680 --> 00:29:38.079 The fullbacks provide enough worth. Yeah, that's 00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:41.240 also your opinion. I think wings are overrated. 00:29:41.460 --> 00:29:45.579 I don't rate, like, what is it, Frimpong's creativity 00:29:45.579 --> 00:29:48.500 to the same degree as Robertson or Arnold, where 00:29:48.500 --> 00:29:50.640 I think you can cover up a winger's creativity. 00:29:51.500 --> 00:29:54.519 Sure. We're just going to have to agree to disagree. 00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:58.220 I don't think he needs to replicate their creativity. 00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:03.579 I think, you know, like, Moneyball. Where they're 00:30:03.579 --> 00:30:05.700 like, well, we can't replace him, so we're going 00:30:05.700 --> 00:30:08.259 to recreate him in the aggregate. So we can't 00:30:08.259 --> 00:30:14.779 replace Arnold's passing, but we can use some 00:30:14.779 --> 00:30:16.799 midfielders getting pushed up more, like Wurz 00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:20.440 and Frimpong's crossing. That can make up the 00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:23.039 numbers, you know what I'm saying? I also think 00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:29.099 Wurz would benefit from having one... of isaac 00:30:29.099 --> 00:30:31.940 and akitike as opposed to both that's just my 00:30:31.940 --> 00:30:35.940 opinion because yeah i think uh again i think 00:30:35.940 --> 00:30:38.240 isaac is better when he's strict positionally 00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:40.680 and so do i think versus i think the free roaming 00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:43.799 player which in my opinion any elite team usually 00:30:43.799 --> 00:30:49.059 has one maybe two free roaming players and i 00:30:49.059 --> 00:30:51.220 would say that should be akitike in my opinion 00:30:51.220 --> 00:30:56.000 all right anyway moving on to the stats They 00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:00.000 outshot us 15 to 11 with four on target to our 00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:04.059 three on target. So we were extremely clinical. 00:31:04.299 --> 00:31:07.079 Three shots on target, three goals. And they 00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:13.440 were just not at the races. But yes, I'm looking 00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:16.740 at it in terms of expected goals. Marseille had 00:31:16.740 --> 00:31:20.559 one expected goals on the dot and we had 1 .63. 00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:23.440 So again, we really had our shooting boots on. 00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:27.519 And you could argue that we got lucky in this 00:31:27.519 --> 00:31:31.859 game. But I would argue that outshooting your 00:31:31.859 --> 00:31:35.279 XG is a sign of an elite team. Depending. We 00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:39.019 spoke about this last week about XG, right? XG, 00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:41.539 if you overperform your XG, that indicates that 00:31:41.539 --> 00:31:45.299 you're an elite finisher. But if you as a team 00:31:45.299 --> 00:31:49.119 are constantly outperforming the XG, then you 00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:52.059 would assume that the team is clinical. It depends 00:31:52.059 --> 00:31:55.839 on the level of chances created. What does that 00:31:55.839 --> 00:31:58.039 mean? Like, I don't think... Like, Aston Villa 00:31:58.039 --> 00:32:02.539 have, I think... Low XG. At one point this season 00:32:02.539 --> 00:32:07.119 had the best over -performance of the XG ratio, 00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:09.680 but I don't think they're an elite team. Well, 00:32:09.700 --> 00:32:11.799 they're third in the Premier League. That's pretty 00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:15.799 elite. I would say. But it depends how many teams 00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:18.640 you consider elite. I'd say only five or four 00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:21.039 teams in world football can be considered elite. 00:32:21.180 --> 00:32:24.000 And who are those five teams? Right now? Yeah. 00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:28.579 Arsenal, Bayern Munich, Barcelona. The fourth 00:32:28.579 --> 00:32:32.359 one is probably Man City, but definitely not 00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:35.980 Arsenal. No PSG. Oh, Pearce Lee, yeah. Pearce 00:32:35.980 --> 00:32:38.420 Lee, definitely. I forgot about them. Yeah. Thank 00:32:38.420 --> 00:32:41.000 you for reminding me. I'm just wondering, you 00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:43.759 know. Pearce Lee would be one, actually, probably. 00:32:44.220 --> 00:32:46.539 Yeah, that's what I was like. I was waiting for 00:32:46.539 --> 00:32:48.220 you to say Pearce Lee. And even Inter Milan, 00:32:48.460 --> 00:32:51.079 actually. I wouldn't say Inter. But I mean, you 00:32:51.079 --> 00:32:53.220 have to respect their record over the season. 00:32:53.779 --> 00:32:55.660 Sure. I wouldn't say Inter and I wouldn't say 00:32:55.660 --> 00:32:59.579 Bayern, but sure. There's no way Aston Villa 00:32:59.579 --> 00:33:01.660 is better than Bayern. I played both of them. 00:33:03.809 --> 00:33:06.130 I'd like to see that game. That's all I want 00:33:06.130 --> 00:33:09.150 to say. Emery versus company. I think that'd 00:33:09.150 --> 00:33:12.450 be a good game. Can't wait for him to finish 00:33:12.450 --> 00:33:15.269 fifth again. So, okay, I don't know. There's 00:33:15.269 --> 00:33:16.930 so much hate in your heart, bro. I don't know 00:33:16.930 --> 00:33:19.309 what's wrong with you. He left your club years 00:33:19.309 --> 00:33:25.829 ago. No, you're supposed to be magnanimous and 00:33:25.829 --> 00:33:29.950 be like, oh, he left. You should be magnanimous 00:33:29.950 --> 00:33:32.470 about your club legend. No, fuck him, man. Why 00:33:32.470 --> 00:33:35.039 should I? Emre has done nothing for Arsenal. 00:33:35.299 --> 00:33:38.420 He set you up to win an FA Cup. No, he didn't. 00:33:40.420 --> 00:33:47.220 He set us up for the years and years of failure 00:33:47.220 --> 00:33:52.319 that I had to work through. Alright. He assembled 00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:53.779 the worst Arsenal squad of all time. Let's get 00:33:53.779 --> 00:33:59.119 back to this Marseille vs Liverpool game. I want 00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:02.019 to put a bow on this and say that Marseille were 00:34:02.019 --> 00:34:05.779 poor. We were clinical. I don't think we should 00:34:05.779 --> 00:34:08.960 take any lessons from this, big lessons from 00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:11.659 this match because it's not very representative 00:34:11.659 --> 00:34:14.619 of regular football. Teams aren't going to be 00:34:14.619 --> 00:34:17.940 this open against us usually. So we shouldn't 00:34:17.940 --> 00:34:21.860 expect it in the future. Yeah. Anything else 00:34:21.860 --> 00:34:23.880 you want to say about Marseille versus Liverpool 00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:27.380 and wrap it up? I mean, yeah, it was, I think 00:34:27.380 --> 00:34:31.960 it was just a gap in quality. I think even if, 00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:36.079 I think Marseille had put in a better tactical 00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:39.000 display. I think the technical level was just 00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:41.360 probably too much for them on the day to overcome. 00:34:41.699 --> 00:34:44.699 All right, so we're done with our two spotlight 00:34:44.699 --> 00:34:46.860 games. Now we're just moving on to miscellaneous 00:34:46.860 --> 00:34:49.920 kind of stories we just want to talk about. Just 00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:54.760 hot, quick news. Ah, so quick, so hot. Ah, so 00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:58.639 hot. I'm burning. Okay, so the first thing I 00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:02.030 want to say is Bodo Glump vs Man City. I was 00:35:02.030 --> 00:35:04.949 out, and when I came home and put it on, it was 00:35:04.949 --> 00:35:07.190 already 3 -1 to Bodo Glimpse. I actually watched 00:35:07.190 --> 00:35:10.809 this game. So I have no... And City had already 00:35:10.809 --> 00:35:13.030 a red card when I watched it. So I watched like 00:35:13.030 --> 00:35:16.309 a very boring, cagey 20 minutes, essentially. 00:35:16.710 --> 00:35:22.809 I mean, it was a decent game. Like, I think Bodo 00:35:22.809 --> 00:35:24.949 played... Like, they didn't play well, but... 00:35:25.289 --> 00:35:29.130 City were worse. I mean, City's weaknesses are 00:35:29.130 --> 00:35:31.809 glaring. That's why I said from the longest time 00:35:31.809 --> 00:35:33.969 I think Arsenal would win the Premier League 00:35:33.969 --> 00:35:35.969 comfortably because there's no team that can 00:35:35.969 --> 00:35:39.190 defend. And I think it was just like a physical 00:35:39.190 --> 00:35:42.190 thing, like more physicality. Man City couldn't 00:35:42.190 --> 00:35:45.170 keep the ball down for very long and they made 00:35:45.170 --> 00:35:48.219 a lot of errors. And generally with them, if 00:35:48.219 --> 00:35:50.239 they make errors, they don't have the physical 00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:53.260 level to make up for those errors as quickly 00:35:53.260 --> 00:35:55.900 as before. I think Rodri, out of possession, 00:35:56.179 --> 00:35:59.639 hasn't found his best level yet. And even in 00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:02.059 possession, a lot of his passing is still erratic. 00:36:02.239 --> 00:36:05.599 So I think he's probably the best midfielder 00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:08.480 in the world when he reaches full form. But right 00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:12.639 now, I think maybe Nico Gonzalez has to come 00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:15.300 back for a little while into the team. Okay. 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:17.480 I don't know why Nico Gonzalez isn't playing. 00:36:17.659 --> 00:36:20.679 I think he might be injured. I'm not sure. Yeah, 00:36:20.699 --> 00:36:22.579 don't quote me on that. I know we're supposed 00:36:22.579 --> 00:36:24.659 to be a professional show. Yeah, we should. But 00:36:24.659 --> 00:36:28.099 even Rico Lewis is a holding midfielder, I think, 00:36:28.099 --> 00:36:30.860 right now. Because he played him as a number 00:36:30.860 --> 00:36:34.460 eight. And I think... Not Rico Lewis, man. That 00:36:34.460 --> 00:36:37.320 guy sucks. I don't hate Rico Lewis. I don't hate 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:39.920 him. I just think he's not good. But they have 00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:43.840 no control right now. So who's the... Nico O 00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:47.269 'Reilly. As a number six? Yes. They played him 00:36:47.269 --> 00:36:50.889 last week in the... No, no, no, no. The Caribou 00:36:50.889 --> 00:36:54.349 Cup. He played as a six against Newcastle. Oh, 00:36:54.369 --> 00:36:57.130 okay. I mean, that's an option. He looked better 00:36:57.130 --> 00:37:00.489 than Rico Lewis, I'll say that. But Rico Lewis 00:37:00.489 --> 00:37:03.030 has had some of his best games in the six. I 00:37:03.030 --> 00:37:05.190 think you can't judge Rico Lewis in the last 00:37:05.190 --> 00:37:08.409 one or two years because Pep's kind of thrown 00:37:08.409 --> 00:37:10.750 him anywhere. He's played him at wing, he's played 00:37:10.750 --> 00:37:12.570 him in midfield, he's played him in defence. 00:37:14.670 --> 00:37:18.949 All right. The next thing I want to say is Liam 00:37:18.949 --> 00:37:22.530 Resigno had an incredible quote this week. Have 00:37:22.530 --> 00:37:28.190 you heard this? No. All right. Quote, am I a 00:37:28.190 --> 00:37:31.690 manager or a coach? I'm both. Coaching is educating. 00:37:32.050 --> 00:37:34.650 Coaching is wanting to improve players on a technical 00:37:34.650 --> 00:37:37.610 and tactical level. Management is making sure 00:37:37.610 --> 00:37:40.769 you have a strong culture. In English, manage. 00:37:41.449 --> 00:37:44.230 If you split the two words, it's man and age. 00:37:44.469 --> 00:37:48.530 So you're aging men. Any thoughts about that? 00:37:55.070 --> 00:37:58.489 I'm sure there's a character I'm thinking of, 00:37:58.530 --> 00:38:02.289 a movie character, that always gives this sort 00:38:02.289 --> 00:38:04.530 of advice. I think you'd know better than me. 00:38:05.670 --> 00:38:08.329 I don't know. It feels very like Michael Scott 00:38:08.329 --> 00:38:11.650 from The Office. okay i haven't watched the office 00:38:11.650 --> 00:38:14.449 okay well he says very silly things and gives 00:38:14.449 --> 00:38:18.610 very silly advice so this sounds like that a 00:38:18.610 --> 00:38:22.210 lot of people have taken to calling him linkedin 00:38:22.210 --> 00:38:27.010 liam because i don't know do you go on linkedin 00:38:27.010 --> 00:38:30.690 often no okay linkedin has a lot of lunatics 00:38:30.690 --> 00:38:34.809 about people who are like very obsessed with 00:38:34.809 --> 00:38:37.820 their job Yeah. Most people, like, have a job 00:38:37.820 --> 00:38:39.679 because that's, like, it pays the bills and, 00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:42.860 you know, their hobbies are elsewhere. Then you 00:38:42.860 --> 00:38:44.400 have people who are, like, obsessed with their 00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:48.739 job and are kind of, I don't know, weird about 00:38:48.739 --> 00:38:53.239 it. So, Liam Rosenior seems to be one of the 00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:58.480 LinkedIn lunatics. I mean, it's just incredible. 00:38:58.860 --> 00:39:03.480 Like, I know a novice manager. getting a job 00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:07.159 in general is a strange thing and it kind of 00:39:07.159 --> 00:39:10.360 worked out for Arsenal but a novice manager that 00:39:10.360 --> 00:39:13.239 has absolutely no connection to Chelsea outside 00:39:13.239 --> 00:39:16.679 of working for their feeder club getting the 00:39:16.679 --> 00:39:21.280 job is crazy it is crazy apparently he was born 00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:24.619 and grew up down the road from Stamford Bridge 00:39:24.619 --> 00:39:30.889 but He's a Man United fan. He's a glory hunter. 00:39:31.369 --> 00:39:36.190 I remember seeing his dad on Fan Zone. Yes. Some 00:39:36.190 --> 00:39:39.170 of the most rubbish takes. Yes. Most people, 00:39:39.269 --> 00:39:43.190 I assume, would be more familiar with his father 00:39:43.190 --> 00:39:46.210 than with him. But at the same time, not everyone 00:39:46.210 --> 00:39:49.190 is like their parents. I mean, I hope he succeeds 00:39:49.190 --> 00:39:52.369 in terms of... I don't. Fuck Chelsea. No, yeah, 00:39:52.389 --> 00:39:55.849 fuck Chelsea. But I would like to see a person 00:39:55.849 --> 00:39:58.690 of colour succeed in the managerial role. Fair 00:39:58.690 --> 00:40:00.630 enough. In the Premier League. So I wouldn't 00:40:00.630 --> 00:40:02.789 mind him succeeding. It would mean something 00:40:02.789 --> 00:40:07.030 to me on that level. But as far as the logistics 00:40:07.030 --> 00:40:10.489 of that move, I don't understand what Chelsea... 00:40:11.019 --> 00:40:13.420 were doing because i think they they got rid 00:40:13.420 --> 00:40:16.820 of a coach that had elite potential in my eyes 00:40:16.820 --> 00:40:20.219 and i think he ends up at man city and they they 00:40:20.219 --> 00:40:23.320 could have just made man city better maybe if 00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:29.340 pep leaves okay so uh that's it for my agenda 00:40:29.340 --> 00:40:32.219 for today do you have any topics you want to 00:40:32.219 --> 00:40:34.199 bring up anything that came across your desk 00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:37.989 this week in the football world um Nothing, like, 00:40:38.050 --> 00:40:41.690 too untoward, I think. Well, we can just check 00:40:41.690 --> 00:40:45.050 the UCL results if you want to just go through 00:40:45.050 --> 00:40:47.710 those quickly. Do some, like, quick hits. Quick. 00:40:47.849 --> 00:40:53.210 Ah, so quick. Okay. So, first of all, we have 00:40:53.210 --> 00:41:00.230 Kyrat1ClubRouge4. I've never heard of the club 00:41:00.230 --> 00:41:04.489 Kyrat in my life. Meaning, well, until this season. 00:41:04.730 --> 00:41:08.050 No, me until this very moment reading this. Oh, 00:41:08.050 --> 00:41:11.889 I mean... I don't even see them in the, you know... 00:41:11.889 --> 00:41:13.829 Have you guys played them? That would be funny. 00:41:14.070 --> 00:41:19.110 No. I doubt that we've played them, but yeah. 00:41:20.429 --> 00:41:23.329 Bodoglum 3, Man City 1, we spoke about that. 00:41:25.309 --> 00:41:28.590 Villarreal 1, Ajax 2. Your precious La Liga getting 00:41:28.590 --> 00:41:33.170 cooked again. Interesting. As long as we have 00:41:33.170 --> 00:41:36.010 the winner, it will not matter. All right. Well, 00:41:36.070 --> 00:41:37.690 I want Arsenal to win the Champions League. Yeah, 00:41:37.690 --> 00:41:42.769 I was going to say. You know, listeners. I wouldn't 00:41:42.769 --> 00:41:45.469 mind if we lost to Pedri. I'd be fine with that. 00:41:45.469 --> 00:41:48.610 Darren loves La Liga. He claims to be an Arsenal 00:41:48.610 --> 00:41:52.809 fan, but he's really a La Liga fan. Anyway, Spurs 00:41:52.809 --> 00:41:56.550 2, Dortmund 0. Any thoughts? I mean. Keeps Frank 00:41:56.550 --> 00:41:59.150 in the job. That's good news for everyone else. 00:42:00.429 --> 00:42:02.590 I didn't watch the game, but apparently, not 00:42:02.590 --> 00:42:04.829 apparently, this did happen. Dortmund got a red 00:42:04.829 --> 00:42:08.949 card. That's why Spurs were all over there. Yeah, 00:42:09.130 --> 00:42:13.010 I don't know how true that is. Because maybe, 00:42:13.070 --> 00:42:15.489 like, the red card came in the 90th minute. I 00:42:15.489 --> 00:42:17.429 don't know. I was actually really worried when 00:42:17.429 --> 00:42:21.969 they got Frank, though. I thought... I thought 00:42:21.969 --> 00:42:24.909 Tottenham would be competitive again, so... Olympia 00:42:24.909 --> 00:42:29.349 cost two, Leverkusen zero. Yeah, I mean... Most 00:42:29.349 --> 00:42:32.630 of the best players just went away. It's a tough 00:42:32.630 --> 00:42:34.849 time for them, yeah. Can't expect great things 00:42:34.849 --> 00:42:38.869 from Leverkusen. Sporting 2, PSG 1. That's the 00:42:38.869 --> 00:42:43.670 shock of the weekend, I guess. Or the week. The 00:42:43.670 --> 00:42:46.510 shock of the week. It's just the malaise of PSG. 00:42:47.630 --> 00:42:51.750 They're not in the trenches. You know what I'm 00:42:51.750 --> 00:42:54.849 saying? Yeah, I mean, they were worse off last 00:42:54.849 --> 00:42:57.349 season. So I guess we could say we've seen this 00:42:57.349 --> 00:43:02.219 before. That would mean that... Where were they 00:43:02.219 --> 00:43:04.800 last season? I think they were 26th going into 00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:09.079 the final matchday. They're better off... Whoever's 00:43:09.079 --> 00:43:13.559 26 now can feel good about themselves. Who is 00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:18.699 26th? Inter versus Arsenal. Spoke about that. 00:43:18.940 --> 00:43:25.019 Real Madrid 6, Monaco 1. Any thoughts? Yeah, 00:43:25.039 --> 00:43:28.869 I thought it was a... like a dominant performance 00:43:28.869 --> 00:43:32.449 from Madrid on the score sheet, but they conceded 00:43:32.449 --> 00:43:36.250 a lot of chances. In a weird way, it was a throwback. 00:43:36.389 --> 00:43:41.110 They completely... What do they say? Let the 00:43:41.110 --> 00:43:46.730 break go? Let the break go. They took their foot 00:43:46.730 --> 00:43:49.130 off the gas. Took their foot off the gas. Or 00:43:49.130 --> 00:43:51.070 put their foot on the gas, or something like 00:43:51.070 --> 00:43:54.039 that. No. Put your foot on the gas, it's not 00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:55.760 a phrase. No, they say take off something. Take 00:43:55.760 --> 00:44:00.360 off the safety wheels. No, I'm getting it confused. 00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:01.920 I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, 00:44:01.940 --> 00:44:06.280 dog. Damn. There's a saying, and I'm going to 00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:09.719 remember it at some point, but yeah, I feel like... 00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:13.639 Oh, the shackles. It seemed like that... They 00:44:13.639 --> 00:44:16.039 broke their shackles. Or the lower took the shackles 00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:20.690 off, at least. But I think that's the... The 00:44:20.690 --> 00:44:22.909 history of Real Madrid, it works for them. And 00:44:22.909 --> 00:44:27.289 I don't think it's always a good idea when clubs 00:44:27.289 --> 00:44:29.969 follow that model because it doesn't tend to 00:44:29.969 --> 00:44:32.550 work for other clubs as well. They don't have 00:44:32.550 --> 00:44:37.329 the money. Yeah. And they don't have... I mean, 00:44:37.349 --> 00:44:40.670 is there another club that plays that way that 00:44:40.670 --> 00:44:44.590 has consistently been elite in the modern era? 00:44:44.750 --> 00:44:49.500 Perhaps Chelsea. But Chelsea, they... Their win 00:44:49.500 --> 00:44:51.719 under Tuchel, their Champions League win, was 00:44:51.719 --> 00:44:54.980 very structured. Their league wins are generally 00:44:54.980 --> 00:44:59.219 very positional, even if defensive. I wouldn't 00:44:59.219 --> 00:45:01.559 say Chelsea's success has come from fluid football. 00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:05.239 Copenhagen won, Napoli won. Antonio Conte sucks 00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:07.219 in the Champions League, man. What can I say? 00:45:08.380 --> 00:45:11.639 Galatasaray won, Atletico Madrid won. That was 00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:15.210 actually probably if I had any... point to bring 00:45:15.210 --> 00:45:17.030 up in the section that would have been it like 00:45:17.030 --> 00:45:21.130 I can't fully understand how he's been probably 00:45:21.130 --> 00:45:24.110 the second greatest league manager to Pep Guardiola 00:45:24.110 --> 00:45:27.050 but he hasn't been able to translate that into 00:45:27.050 --> 00:45:29.250 Champions League it's especially with someone 00:45:29.250 --> 00:45:31.590 like Nzaghi showing that you can compete with 00:45:31.590 --> 00:45:35.349 a back three so and Thomas Tuchel so him probably 00:45:35.349 --> 00:45:38.530 being like the the point of reference they're 00:45:38.530 --> 00:45:40.750 both of those coaches biggest point of reference 00:45:40.750 --> 00:45:44.039 it's strange that he hasn't found success that 00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:47.800 way himself. Karabag 3, Eintracht Frankfurt 2. 00:45:48.159 --> 00:45:53.659 There's a good glass in the back, man. Alright, 00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:55.820 well, we're playing Karabag next week, so I'm 00:45:55.820 --> 00:45:58.440 going to get a proper eyeful of them next week. 00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:01.019 I have not seen them play. We're playing Kairat 00:46:01.019 --> 00:46:03.360 next week, so I'll let you know how that goes. 00:46:04.039 --> 00:46:07.260 Marseille 0, Liverpool 3 we spoke about. Newcastle 00:46:07.260 --> 00:46:10.079 3, PSV 0. I'd like to say we saw the highlights 00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:14.610 of that. Johan Wisse goal. Johan Wisse, pressing 00:46:14.610 --> 00:46:18.309 assist. Yes. He is a top player. We spoke about 00:46:18.309 --> 00:46:21.070 this in the other game, in the other podcast 00:46:21.070 --> 00:46:25.090 that we did about Wisse. I mean, Man United would 00:46:25.090 --> 00:46:27.449 have been better off going for him and Mbwemo, 00:46:27.590 --> 00:46:31.650 keep the partnership going. The thing is, he's 00:46:31.650 --> 00:46:34.869 like 29. Yeah, but I mean... You can't buy a 00:46:34.869 --> 00:46:38.030 29 -year -old. Was he expensive? He was like 00:46:38.030 --> 00:46:40.429 50 million. Oh, I didn't know. I thought he was 00:46:40.429 --> 00:46:44.929 like maybe 10 or 15. The only reason... I wouldn't 00:46:44.929 --> 00:46:46.750 pay... But I wouldn't even pay 20 million for 00:46:46.750 --> 00:46:49.190 Wisset. The thing is, everyone was rejecting 00:46:49.190 --> 00:46:54.489 Newcastle. Ekotike rejected them. I think who 00:46:54.489 --> 00:46:58.989 else was on the... Sesko rejected them. Mbwemo 00:46:58.989 --> 00:47:01.610 rejected them. I'm pretty sure. But yes, they 00:47:01.610 --> 00:47:05.170 were linked with a bunch of people and got rejected. 00:47:05.329 --> 00:47:10.840 So, yeah. Anything else? Slavia Praha 2, Barcelona 00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:15.500 4. I didn't watch this game, unfortunately, because 00:47:15.500 --> 00:47:21.480 I was with you and I fell asleep. Yes. But I 00:47:21.480 --> 00:47:24.599 did go and watch the highlights. I saw the highlights. 00:47:24.619 --> 00:47:27.539 Two excellent goals from Firmin Lopez. Yeah, 00:47:27.579 --> 00:47:31.139 Firmin Lopez, I think he's one of the best young 00:47:31.139 --> 00:47:35.440 players in the world. Juventus 2, Benfica 0. 00:47:35.639 --> 00:47:40.219 Long live Luciano Spalletti. Chelsea 1, Paphos 00:47:40.219 --> 00:47:44.360 0. Another club I've never heard of in my life. 00:47:44.500 --> 00:47:52.820 Paphos. Chelsea. Paphos. Yeah, I mean, I heard 00:47:52.820 --> 00:47:56.619 about them because I believe they had a surprise 00:47:56.619 --> 00:48:01.110 victory at one of the earlier stages. I forgot 00:48:01.110 --> 00:48:04.530 who it was against, but I think they beat someone 00:48:04.530 --> 00:48:09.889 big. Bayern 2, Union St. Geloa 0. I mean, Bayern 00:48:09.889 --> 00:48:12.710 are looking decent this season. We'll see how 00:48:12.710 --> 00:48:15.349 far they go. Bayern are fucking crap, man. Don't 00:48:15.349 --> 00:48:18.809 give me this shit. I hope we meet them. I hope 00:48:18.809 --> 00:48:22.690 we meet them. Slot is going to show company levels. 00:48:23.360 --> 00:48:27.199 You can't always reduce a campaign to two games. 00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:29.840 I'm just saying, probably not that good. Anyone 00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:32.719 can lose two games. Anyone can go bully the Bundesliga, 00:48:32.739 --> 00:48:35.420 but when you play against the actual big teams, 00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:37.280 you lose and then you say, oh, but we won the 00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:40.119 league. Fuck the league, man. No, what do you 00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:44.460 mean? It's like PSG flexing their league. You 00:48:44.460 --> 00:48:46.559 know what I'm saying? No, but sometimes it doesn't 00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:50.489 go your way. Yeah, that's a disgrace. If you're 00:48:50.489 --> 00:48:53.130 spending 10 times what the second best team are 00:48:53.130 --> 00:48:57.110 spending and you lose, you're a disgrace. Bayern 00:48:57.110 --> 00:48:59.809 are a disgrace. Okay, but they're still a good 00:48:59.809 --> 00:49:03.869 team. Sure, but I hope we get them. That's all 00:49:03.869 --> 00:49:07.510 I hope. Anyway, Atalanta 2, Athletic Club 3. 00:49:07.909 --> 00:49:10.929 You guys beating them wouldn't make them a non 00:49:10.929 --> 00:49:12.769 -elite team because you guys are also an elite 00:49:12.769 --> 00:49:15.420 team. No, we're not. You guys are just out of 00:49:15.420 --> 00:49:17.559 form. We drew with Burnley this weekend. You 00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:19.380 guys are out of form. We drew with Burnley. We 00:49:19.380 --> 00:49:25.599 drew with... Let me tell you something. Let me 00:49:25.599 --> 00:49:29.159 remind you of something. We have not beaten a 00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:31.739 promoted team at home this season. And we've 00:49:31.739 --> 00:49:35.199 played all three promoted teams. It's one of 00:49:35.199 --> 00:49:37.300 those seasons. It doesn't... Like, if you win 00:49:37.300 --> 00:49:39.119 the Champions League... Is that an elite team 00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:41.360 team? Didn't Real Madrid finish fourth in the 00:49:41.360 --> 00:49:44.440 first season of their three -peat? Is that not 00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:49.059 an elite team? Yeah, but we're not going to finish 00:49:49.059 --> 00:49:52.920 fourth. We're in the free fall. You keep shifting 00:49:52.920 --> 00:49:55.460 the goalposts. You guys still have the potential 00:49:55.460 --> 00:49:58.420 to win the Champions League. You guys have drawn 00:49:58.420 --> 00:50:00.760 twice against us and we've arguably been the 00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:03.300 best. I mean, you beat us once and drew once. 00:50:03.340 --> 00:50:05.900 You know why? Because Arsenal... Not Arsenal. 00:50:06.239 --> 00:50:08.670 Arteta is a coward. That's what you believe. 00:50:08.789 --> 00:50:11.010 Why doesn't Arteta come out and attack, attack, 00:50:11.070 --> 00:50:13.130 attack? If he came out and attacked us... Because 00:50:13.130 --> 00:50:14.829 not everyone has your footballing philosophy. 00:50:14.829 --> 00:50:18.530 If Arteta came out and gave us his all, he would 00:50:18.530 --> 00:50:21.969 have beaten us 3 -0. I believe, really. The game 00:50:21.969 --> 00:50:24.650 at the Emirates, at least. Definitely. And they 00:50:24.650 --> 00:50:26.489 definitely showed too much respect at Anfield 00:50:26.489 --> 00:50:29.369 as well. No. I think you're underrating Liverpool 00:50:29.369 --> 00:50:32.090 and overrating everyone else. No, because I've 00:50:32.090 --> 00:50:35.010 seen when a team doesn't fear us, when a team 00:50:35.010 --> 00:50:38.210 really gets at us. We tumble. We don't fear you 00:50:38.210 --> 00:50:40.329 guys. We haven't lost to you guys for a long 00:50:40.329 --> 00:50:42.349 time. It's just been a lot of draws. What do 00:50:42.349 --> 00:50:44.349 you mean? We beat you this season. Oh, yeah, 00:50:44.409 --> 00:50:47.630 okay. But, I mean, we've lost, like, what? We've 00:50:47.630 --> 00:50:50.789 lost, like, one in five or six, I think. A loss 00:50:50.789 --> 00:50:53.519 is a loss, fam. But I'm saying it doesn't mean 00:50:53.519 --> 00:50:55.559 anything. It doesn't mean that we're not an elite 00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:58.559 team or you guys are not an elite team. You said 00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:00.539 the elite teams, there's only five. And you didn't 00:51:00.539 --> 00:51:02.139 mention Liverpool when you mentioned those five. 00:51:02.219 --> 00:51:04.619 So I'll leave that to you. At this exact moment. 00:51:04.820 --> 00:51:07.519 But you guys are still an elite team. You said 00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:09.619 there's only four or five elite teams. Yeah, 00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:12.139 in terms of consistency this season, there's 00:51:12.139 --> 00:51:14.860 been four or five elite teams. But in terms of 00:51:14.860 --> 00:51:17.539 who can be elite on their day, you guys are one 00:51:17.539 --> 00:51:21.659 of those teams. And Aston Villa are not. that's 00:51:21.659 --> 00:51:24.300 what I mean I think Aston Villa are better than 00:51:24.300 --> 00:51:26.739 us and the table shows that but thank you for 00:51:26.739 --> 00:51:30.559 listening I think Aston Villa can't beat PSG 00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:33.639 or Real Madrid or Aston I saw Aston Villa beat 00:51:33.639 --> 00:51:37.380 PSG last season in the Champions League I think 00:51:37.380 --> 00:51:39.500 in the group stage the same stage that we beat 00:51:39.500 --> 00:51:42.199 them at we're talking about two leg knockout 00:51:42.199 --> 00:51:45.030 games They did play them over two legs and they 00:51:45.030 --> 00:51:47.030 got knocked out, unfortunately. But they gave 00:51:47.030 --> 00:51:49.170 them a good game, damn it. They gave them a good 00:51:49.170 --> 00:51:52.329 game. So did you guys and so did we. So, yeah. 00:51:52.769 --> 00:51:55.070 Everyone gave them a good game. You telling me, 00:51:55.170 --> 00:51:57.469 you mentioned... Inter Milan gave them a good 00:51:57.469 --> 00:52:01.050 game in the final. It's not that funny. It's 00:52:01.050 --> 00:52:02.949 not that funny. So if we're an elite team and 00:52:02.949 --> 00:52:05.230 you're an elite team and we both gave PSG a good 00:52:05.230 --> 00:52:07.849 game and Aston Villa gave them a good game, what 00:52:07.849 --> 00:52:09.710 does that make Aston Villa? Anyway, I think we're 00:52:09.710 --> 00:52:11.989 just moving in circles here. Thank you for listening. 00:52:12.050 --> 00:52:14.119 It's not elite. Thank you for listening. If he 00:52:14.119 --> 00:52:16.360 was at Arsenal, you would have had the same criticisms 00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:19.239 of him that you have of Arteta because he plays 00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:22.739 worse football. He's even more cowardly. Emery 00:52:22.739 --> 00:52:26.420 had a much worse team than Arteta. That he assembled. 00:52:26.900 --> 00:52:29.980 He had like one or two years. And he'd signed 00:52:29.980 --> 00:52:33.079 Nicolas Pepe for 78 million. He just never got 00:52:33.079 --> 00:52:36.280 a chance. He never got a chance. When did he 00:52:36.280 --> 00:52:40.579 ever play Pepe? I thought Pepe was very unfortunate. 00:52:41.380 --> 00:52:45.320 He never got a run out in the team. And by the 00:52:45.320 --> 00:52:47.039 way, you shouldn't have bought him in the first 00:52:47.039 --> 00:52:48.639 place because the majority of his goals were 00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:50.920 from penalties. And he wasn't going to take penalties 00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:54.139 when he came to Arsenal. That's one thing. And 00:52:54.139 --> 00:52:59.000 Pepe, when you signed him, he had a very good 00:52:59.000 --> 00:53:01.079 goal record. I believe he scored something like 00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:04.199 16 goals. And 10 of them were from penalties. 00:53:05.710 --> 00:53:09.489 So that should have been your big warning sign. 00:53:09.670 --> 00:53:11.989 And the same thing has happened with Jokres, 00:53:12.090 --> 00:53:17.289 I believe. Jokres scored a lot of goals, a lot 00:53:17.289 --> 00:53:20.489 of penalties as well. Not as many, I think it 00:53:20.489 --> 00:53:23.130 was like 11. Nevertheless, I think... But I didn't 00:53:23.130 --> 00:53:24.849 agree with his signing, and I don't think it 00:53:24.849 --> 00:53:27.349 was first or second choice. I believe Jokres 00:53:27.349 --> 00:53:33.449 and Pepe are very comparable signings. But you 00:53:33.449 --> 00:53:37.920 blame... Emery for Pepe, but you won't blame 00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:42.079 Arteta for your craze. Emery never had us competing 00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:47.420 at any level, but... You didn't win any trophies? 00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:52.659 No. Emery? Like a FA Cup? Nothing. Are you sure? 00:53:52.940 --> 00:53:56.739 At Arsenal, nothing. Yeah. And Arteta won the 00:53:56.739 --> 00:54:00.039 FA Cup, but you refused to give Emery any credit. 00:54:01.070 --> 00:54:04.510 I do. I refuse to give him any credit. Alright. 00:54:04.650 --> 00:54:07.070 I think we're done here. Thank you for listening. 00:54:07.250 --> 00:54:09.530 Please remember to rate, review, subscribe, give 00:54:09.530 --> 00:54:15.730 a like, etc. What else? The same stuff. Subscribe, 00:54:15.989 --> 00:54:21.289 like, comment. Let us know if you have any questions. 00:54:21.869 --> 00:54:23.989 Yeah, and any comments. How can we make this 00:54:23.989 --> 00:54:26.869 better? Do you like our just bickering or should 00:54:26.869 --> 00:54:29.489 we keep it a lot more focused? Bye.