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And welcome back to the PD Football Podcast.

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My name is Presh. I'm Darren. And before we get

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started, how are you doing? I'm good, how are

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you? I'm kind of swell. A little bit tired because

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there's a new Game of Thrones show. I stayed

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up for it and regret it somewhat because I had

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a meeting in the morning. Yeah, work, work. I'm

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also a little bit tired. You're a Game of Thrones

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fan? Big Game of Thrones fan. I feel like...

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The whole world was Game of Thrones fans. I never

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jumped onto it, but yeah. I know. Look, there's

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the thing. The Game of Thrones fans are very

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vocal, and then the non -Game of Thrones fans

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are very vocal as well. So it's like one of those

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things that people have strong feelings about.

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I've watched a lot of scenes in it that look

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very beautiful, but I couldn't catch on to the

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story, I guess. Whatever the case is... Tired,

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I think is the word, but excited to chat about

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some football today as well, I would say. I mean,

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this weekend was a big one, starting with the

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Manchester derby. Yes. So yeah, going in, I had

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no idea what to expect. Especially with the sacking

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of Amarim. If he hadn't got sacked, I would have

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100 % bet on Man City. I've never watched Carrick

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play. I missed the handful of games where he

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was the interim manager, and I do not watch the

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championship. So I just had no idea walking in

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what to expect. Guardiola, obviously, is going

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to play his tree formation. We spoke about it

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in the previous episode. We know what to expect

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from him. But, yeah. A little bit more unpredictable

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since the game is way more dependent on high

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pressing now than before, in my mind. No, I'm

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just saying the shape is predictable, not their

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patterns of play. But yeah, what did you think?

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Before we go into individual incidents, in terms

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of the overall game, what did you think? I mean,

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I wasn't shocked. Like I've seen Man United,

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with a lot of managers, get a new manager bounce.

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They beat Manchester City last season at Old

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Trafford as well. And they played really well

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there against us. So it wasn't surprising to

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see them dominate the game. I expected there

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to be some sort of manager bounce. I'm also a

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bit in the dark with Michael Carrick like you.

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I've just read a little bit about him and watched

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a few. Tactical breakdowns of his Middlesbrough

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team. But never anything really in depth. But

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I was impressed. With the performance going in.

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I didn't expect. Anything really. Because of

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the sacking of Amarim. I would say. It's not

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genius. But it was effective. What Carrick did.

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First of all. He just played what we in the business

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call parking the bus, right? He defended deep

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in a low block, hit them on the counter. That's

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just, you know, we can talk about individual

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kind of things that they did, but overall, that's

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the game, how the game went. I mean, that was

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always going to be the tactic from their perspective.

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Not always, but... I just think it's one of the

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most effective things you can do, especially

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if you, a team, you know, going through a bad

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phase, you know, solidify at the back and just

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use your pacey, especially if you do have pacey

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wingers, you know, use that about them, you know.

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So, yeah, it was a 4 -4 -2 low block when they

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were defending, but in possession they were in

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a 4 -3 -3 with Bruno dictating play. Playing

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Bruno in the 10 is not like a genius masterstroke.

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It's just common sense. He's one of the best

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10s in the world. Imagine playing KDB deep and

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telling him he needs to track back and defend.

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People would laugh at you. Similarly, I feel

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Bruno, the talent that he has... you know, what

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he can do for the team. He shouldn't be burdened

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with so much defensive duty as what Amir put

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upon him. And I think this was his best performance

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of the season. He was totally sensational. My

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man of the match. I don't think they gave him

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man of the match. So I think maybe Dogu got it.

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I'm not sure. I didn't see on the... I think...

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Well, whatever the case is, I just believe...

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For me, he was the best on the pitch. So that's

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just the game in general. Parking the bus, getting

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on the counter, that's fine. I was also impressed

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with the pressing. Because you're not always

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going to catch a team on the counter. So one

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of the ways we can engineer a counter situation

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is pressing them high. turning over the ball

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high and, you know, getting at them. And I thought

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United were very good at pressing the Spurs game.

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They forced a lot of errors. Yes. We'll speak

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about City just now, but I'm just trying to...

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I want to give United their flowers, so to say.

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This is a rare moment for you. No, no, no. I'm

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a very fair person, I would say. They... The

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whole thing, like, Amirams... Coaching, I think,

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was very amateur. The fact that Carrick can get

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them moving like this after just like a few sessions

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shows how bad Amarum really was. Yes, what else

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did they do? It's just low block, impressed with

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their pressing. But I mean, I think the distances

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also, between the lines were really small. And

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I think... It helped him on the transition, especially

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with Casemiro. He didn't have too many difficult

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passes to make, whereas with Amorim he had to

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try to stretch the ball a lot. Bruno was right

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next to him half the time, so he could just move

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the ball onto him and he could occupy him in.

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I think there was a lot of things in Michael

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Carrick's coaching that I would say... I don't

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know if many United fans would like it, but it

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obviously comes from a more... closer leaning

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towards Guardiola's school of thought than complete

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transition based football because I do think

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he placed way more emphasis on midfield than

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well the thing is my sample size is one game

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He could just be doing this for this particular

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game and then his preferred style of play is

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much different than this. We would have to see

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him over a number of games to actually get a

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gauge of... What his philosophy is. But from

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what I've read, he does seem to be more of the

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mould of dominating the ball. Yeah. So, we spoke

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about United. Now, the thing that is going to...

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get me accused of not giving united their flowers

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is that city were poor and that's why united

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won i feel that was the main thing people are

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talking about how sensational united were and

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again i want to give them their flowers but city

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were really poor and uh city allowed them more

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so to to you know like city are so good at playing

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out of a press but they just didn't this weekend.

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They got caught. Is that because United are so

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good or is it because City are lethargic and

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Rodri isn't up to it? Nico Gonzalez is out of

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the team. But I've always thought United have

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one of the best squads in the world. Not in the

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world, in the league, sorry. But I think that's

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why Amorim has been able to kind of stay in the

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Champions League race even though they haven't

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really played well at all this season. I think

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the players have signed also decent. So it depends

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how you look at it. But I don't think it's conceivable.

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I think it's still conceivable to think that

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Man City were playing well. I just think they

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looked kind of out of ideas. Yeah, I mean, in

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that game. But I do think Man United nullified

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them in a way that shocked them. Maybe I'm being

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unfair too. to United and I should be more praising

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of them but I really felt City didn't put up

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a fight. City were just allowing them to get

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on them. I mean, Rodri misplaced a lot of passes

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uncharacteristically, like you said. That was

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probably one of the worst games. I can't recall

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him playing a game worse than that except maybe

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the days when he first signed for Man City where

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he was playing at centre -back, playing in midfield.

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Being rotated a lot. Another thing, sorry, I

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just want to go back a little bit to parking

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the bus. An unorthodox thing, I said Bruno was

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a common sense. The thing that looked uncommon

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sense to me was playing Dogu and Ahmad as the

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wingers instead of Mbwemo and Kunya. But what

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I did see is that Dogu tucked in. and Ahmad on

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the other side when City had possession. So they

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flooded the midfield, which is what allowed them

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to disrupt City's play in the midfield. So I

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think playing those two wingers on its surface,

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even though it looks weird, was actually a masterstroke

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from Carrick to flood the midfield with more

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players. Yeah, it's overload. But again, am I

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giving him too much credit or not enough credit?

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I don't know. What else I want to say? Okay,

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so we've just spoken about the generalities.

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Do you have anything else you want to say about

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that? No, as far as I'm concerned, I'm good.

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So specific incidences now, right? I want to

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talk about, so I actually watched this at my

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uncle's house. Amongst many United fans. Uncle,

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cousin, dad. Okay, my brother wasn't there. But,

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like, three of them are Man United fans, and

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they were very vocal and entertaining. But, yeah,

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so I came in a few minutes late. And the first

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thing I walk in on is the VAR is analyzing the

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possible red card challenge from Dello on Doku.

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And I thought that was a Stonewall red. Yeah,

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I saw it as well. So Dello is studs up, he's

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nowhere near the ball, and he's lunging. And

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Doku's foot is planted in a really awkward angle.

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It wasn't planted, that's the thing. I'll say

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this now, right? The only argument you could

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possibly make is that it wasn't forceful enough.

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That's what a lot of people are saying. There

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wasn't force behind it. But I would counter that

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by saying Doku moved out of the way at the last

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moment, which is why it didn't. you know, it

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didn't look worse. Oh, I didn't notice that.

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If Doku's leg was properly planted, it might

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have been a leg breaker. That's how serious I

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think it was. Yeah, I assumed from the angles

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I saw it, because I didn't, like, watch any breakdown

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of it or whatever, that it was maybe, like, that

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his foot was planted and the force was less,

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at least at the time of, like, impact. But if

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we're going back to this forceful argument, I

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would just point to two incidences in the recent

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past that were red cards. And if those were red

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cards, then this should definitely be a red card.

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So first of all, last week in the Classico, Frankie

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de Jong, he slid in and he got a red card. His

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feet were high. He was lunging. He wasn't near

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the ball. There was no force. He just like he

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was going slowly. but still a red card. And they

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were absolutely right to do it. The second one

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I want to say is Xavi Simmonds on Van Dijk earlier

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in the season. We played them a couple of weeks

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ago now. High boot, out of control of his body,

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studs over the knee. I'm shocked that there's

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people who are like, ah, this game's gone. It

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should be a yellow. I think that really changed

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the whole complexion of the game. United were

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extremely lucky with that call. Yeah, I agree.

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I definitely thought it should have been a red

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as well. Like, I just think that on the argument

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of the force, I just thought that whether he...

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reduce the force or not I think the nature of

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the challenge was dangerous so yes yeah I agree

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with that I was trying to make the same point

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but you just did it so well in one sentence he

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should have he should have been sent off it's

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like I mean we've seen things for red cards that

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haven't got overturned that are worse we don't

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need to get into all that but like You've probably

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had some against your team. This person's had

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some against their team. I think at what point

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do we, like, maybe football can learn something

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from the way rugby uses VAR. Like, have a more

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direct understanding and maybe let the VAR make

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the decision. And then it's like, I guess when

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everything gets caught in communication and this

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person thinks that, and now you're talking about

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millimeters. everything becomes confused and

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the game loses momentum i agree with vr overall

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but i can understand the argument of like oh

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if your team is going for it or whatever it can

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it can kind of kill that momentum so yeah that

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that's the first incident the second incident

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i want to talk about is the goal um it comes

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from a city free kick And United burst lightning

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quick on the counter. And obviously hate United,

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but just watching that was a pleasure. From Bruno.

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Yeah, like, you know, seeing a counterattack

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in full motion just go so quickly is such a nice,

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fun thing to watch. As a football fan. As a football

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fan, yes. Bruno. Played the ball in. Sensational

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ball. Buemo finished it. Excellent goal. It reminded

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me of prime clock ball. That's... Yeah, in a

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lot of ways it was, right? Like, you know, the

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pressing, a lot of that, like, it reminded me

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a lot of clock. Now, maybe I'm being, like, way

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too premature, but, like, I just don't think

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you can win the league like that. Like... On

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a consistent basis, you mean? Yeah. I would say

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if we look at the last 10 years or so, it's mainly

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been possession -based football that's won the

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league. But, I mean, that is kind of because

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of Guardiola. Yeah, but nevertheless... What's

00:16:00.019 --> 00:16:04.100
the standard of possession football if Guardiola

00:16:04.100 --> 00:16:08.799
leaves? Because, I mean, you'd have... We don't

00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:10.379
need to get into all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:16:11.940 --> 00:16:17.080
So, yes, I like that goal from... Then the second

00:16:17.080 --> 00:16:20.419
goal, I really have to blame City's fullbacks.

00:16:21.120 --> 00:16:23.559
City's fullbacks, in my opinion, are just not

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good enough. It's unfortunate because they're

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young and maybe I'm being very premature and

00:16:33.759 --> 00:16:41.779
rude, but Nico O 'Reilly and Rico Lewis are just

00:16:41.779 --> 00:16:46.840
not good enough, in my opinion. It depends what

00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:51.960
you consider them as. When Rico Lewis started

00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:54.840
as a midfielder, I was really impressed. But

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I guess getting into Man City's midfield at that

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time wasn't going to be easy. And Pep using him

00:17:00.100 --> 00:17:02.679
as a right -back means he's kind of turned him

00:17:02.679 --> 00:17:08.039
into a utility player. You just kind of throw

00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:12.480
him wherever he fits. I still think he has a

00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:14.859
lot of potential as a midfielder. Maybe not at

00:17:14.859 --> 00:17:18.519
Man City, but we've seen it. Look at Tielemans

00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:23.940
at Aston Villa, you know. All right, so let's

00:17:23.940 --> 00:17:29.819
say 50 % it was United were good and 50 % City

00:17:29.819 --> 00:17:35.299
were bad. Is that a fair breakdown? That's going

00:17:35.299 --> 00:17:39.519
to be the case in any game, though. No, like...

00:17:40.829 --> 00:17:42.849
I mean, there have been times where teams have

00:17:42.849 --> 00:17:45.849
dominated and lost, but it's more rare. Even

00:17:45.849 --> 00:17:48.849
if you go back to your defeats last season, maybe

00:17:48.849 --> 00:17:52.769
PSG, you guys played an even game. But how many

00:17:52.769 --> 00:17:56.210
times do you dominate a game and still lose very

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rarely? Okay, sure. So, are we done with United?

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Is there any closing comments that you want to

00:18:04.329 --> 00:18:06.390
make about them or something that we missed?

00:18:07.589 --> 00:18:11.890
They will... not make European football still.

00:18:14.809 --> 00:18:18.650
Yeah, I have no idea what to expect from them.

00:18:19.289 --> 00:18:22.470
My sample size for Carrick is one. I just want

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to see more football being played and then I

00:18:24.910 --> 00:18:27.730
can express an opinion on Carrick. I'm kidding

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though, they'll definitely be in the Conference

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League. Alright, so let's move on to Lopal versus

00:18:34.609 --> 00:18:39.299
Burnley. Well, do you have anything you want

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to say? I mean, I didn't expect much going in.

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Like I said, I think I don't... I'm not looking

00:18:49.799 --> 00:18:52.460
at you guys through the same lens of you. So,

00:18:52.460 --> 00:18:54.819
I mean, as the Liverpool fan, I think you should

00:18:54.819 --> 00:18:59.769
go first because my opinions can then... Okay,

00:18:59.769 --> 00:19:01.849
well, first of all, I'm still at my uncle's house.

00:19:02.829 --> 00:19:05.829
But unfortunately, at this point, the rest of

00:19:05.829 --> 00:19:08.970
the guests have started coming in. And I'm trying

00:19:08.970 --> 00:19:10.690
my best to focus on what's happening in this

00:19:10.690 --> 00:19:13.490
game. But for whatever reason, I become the most

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popular person in the world during a local game.

00:19:17.130 --> 00:19:21.930
Everyone wants to chat with me. Even chatting

00:19:21.930 --> 00:19:25.529
about the game is a little bit annoying. People

00:19:25.529 --> 00:19:29.170
want to talk to me about their lives. Share their

00:19:29.170 --> 00:19:31.289
whole life stories. This is really not the time.

00:19:31.390 --> 00:19:33.210
Now they're telling you about their kids' school

00:19:33.210 --> 00:19:38.430
while you're trying to watch your team. If I'm

00:19:38.430 --> 00:19:41.069
missing something, forgive me. I have watched

00:19:41.069 --> 00:19:50.150
the highlights back. Even if I didn't watch this,

00:19:50.250 --> 00:19:54.690
I could analyze this game. Why is that? Because

00:19:54.690 --> 00:19:57.509
you've seen it every week. Not every week, but,

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you know, Burnley would probably set up in a

00:20:01.609 --> 00:20:04.930
low block, like United did against City, and,

00:20:05.089 --> 00:20:07.430
you know, try and catch us on the counter, parking

00:20:07.430 --> 00:20:13.069
the bus, like we just said. You know, like, people

00:20:13.069 --> 00:20:22.099
do it because it's a, not useful, a, effective

00:20:22.099 --> 00:20:28.960
tactic. Right? And our biggest problem this season

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has been breaking down the low block. And...

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And what do you think that's come from compared

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to last season? So, there's many ways to... to

00:20:44.559 --> 00:20:48.099
break down the low block, right? So, not break

00:20:48.099 --> 00:20:51.170
down... to score against a low block. So for

00:20:51.170 --> 00:20:54.690
one, perhaps Burnley come up for a corner and

00:20:54.690 --> 00:20:57.750
we catch them lightning quick on a counter. That's

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one option. We don't really have any pacey players

00:21:01.730 --> 00:21:06.190
right now that can catch people on the counter,

00:21:06.309 --> 00:21:09.450
so that wasn't an option. A second thing we can

00:21:09.450 --> 00:21:16.549
do is score from a set piece, which not a lot

00:21:16.549 --> 00:21:22.480
of set pieces... came about in this match. But

00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:28.400
the most, so what Guardiola does is keeps the

00:21:28.400 --> 00:21:31.720
ball, probes, probes, probes, probes, looks for,

00:21:31.779 --> 00:21:34.440
you know, where the space opens up, that's where

00:21:34.440 --> 00:21:37.519
we attack, right? Yeah. That's, to me, that's

00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:40.539
the most effective thing you can do. Just keep

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possession, press, not press, you know, pin them

00:21:44.859 --> 00:21:50.309
back. Try, you know, move the ball around until

00:21:50.309 --> 00:21:54.150
you can engineer some space, shoot, win, right?

00:21:54.250 --> 00:21:59.450
He's done that. And of course, I don't want to

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say the only, but kind of a surefire way to beat

00:22:03.250 --> 00:22:06.230
a low block is just to have better players. And

00:22:06.230 --> 00:22:09.630
I know that sounds very obvious, but, you know,

00:22:09.650 --> 00:22:11.990
if you have Messi trying to break down a low

00:22:11.990 --> 00:22:15.029
block versus like... I don't know, Danny Welbeck.

00:22:15.150 --> 00:22:19.369
Of course, you know, the more inventive player

00:22:19.369 --> 00:22:22.150
is going to find a way or, you know, find more

00:22:22.150 --> 00:22:25.930
ways than the less inventive player, right? So

00:22:25.930 --> 00:22:28.769
just the fact that we have better players than

00:22:28.769 --> 00:22:33.970
Burnley should have been enough, right? But today,

00:22:34.130 --> 00:22:36.650
I blame the players. I do not blame the coach

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because slot provided the platform. for these

00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:45.519
guys to win, they didn't take their chances.

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And we watched the highlights just before we

00:22:51.140 --> 00:22:53.980
started recording, right? And you could see that

00:22:53.980 --> 00:22:58.480
we were quite wasteful. I don't mind us... So

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this is the thing. I really want to compare this

00:23:00.039 --> 00:23:02.299
in contrast to the Leeds game a few weeks ago,

00:23:02.460 --> 00:23:05.140
where we're just passing, passing, passing. We're

00:23:05.140 --> 00:23:07.059
not taking shots. We're not crossing. We're just,

00:23:07.119 --> 00:23:12.869
you know, wasting our time. kind of around the

00:23:12.869 --> 00:23:16.650
the penalty area not not the penalty area the

00:23:16.650 --> 00:23:21.349
box and we're not doing anything actionable against

00:23:21.349 --> 00:23:23.390
Burnley we were taking shots we were putting

00:23:23.390 --> 00:23:25.970
in crosses we were you know doing the right things

00:23:25.970 --> 00:23:28.029
we just got I don't want to say we got unlucky

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because I think the players just weren't at it

00:23:30.210 --> 00:23:33.309
that's more the players weren't clinical enough

00:23:33.309 --> 00:23:38.279
I think they were a bit arrogant, and they thought,

00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:40.099
like, okay, we're going to just turn Burnley

00:23:40.099 --> 00:23:45.579
over, right? Yeah. So what did you make of Wirtz,

00:23:45.579 --> 00:23:49.799
though? Sensational. He had a very good game,

00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:53.059
pulled the strings. Slot gave him a free roll.

00:23:53.339 --> 00:23:55.259
He wasn't on the left or right. He was just,

00:23:55.279 --> 00:23:58.059
you know, popping up where he needed to. He scored

00:23:58.059 --> 00:24:02.839
a very good goal, a very well -taken goal. Obviously,

00:24:03.000 --> 00:24:05.640
I just want to shout out Eketike for the run.

00:24:05.859 --> 00:24:09.700
He didn't get an assist for it, but the run leading

00:24:09.700 --> 00:24:12.359
up to the goal. Some of his technique is amazing.

00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:16.099
Every time you watch him, he gets better. So

00:24:16.099 --> 00:24:19.079
Wurz, he's getting the goals and assists now,

00:24:19.180 --> 00:24:21.920
but I think he's been playing well for a couple

00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:25.799
of weeks. More than a couple of weeks. Say, two

00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:28.210
months now. He's been playing quite well. So

00:24:28.210 --> 00:24:31.089
he's just needed the end product, which has come.

00:24:31.210 --> 00:24:35.130
Yes. Or it seems like it's come. Yes. And I thought

00:24:35.130 --> 00:24:39.450
he was one of our better players. So where would

00:24:39.450 --> 00:24:42.109
you think the problem lies in terms of, I would

00:24:42.109 --> 00:24:46.630
say that Wurz and Ekitike are probably two of

00:24:46.630 --> 00:24:48.390
the best players in the league if you get the

00:24:48.390 --> 00:24:51.329
most out of them. So how do you go about it more

00:24:51.329 --> 00:24:54.559
consistently? Speaking about this game, I said

00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:57.119
I wouldn't blame the coach. I would say maybe

00:24:57.119 --> 00:25:00.880
if we had 10 blame points, I would give two blame

00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:03.220
points to the coach, eight to the players, right?

00:25:03.299 --> 00:25:08.619
What would those two be? I'm not saying two points

00:25:08.619 --> 00:25:11.559
as in there's two reasons. I'm saying like as

00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:14.539
a value. What would that be attributed to though?

00:25:17.019 --> 00:25:21.220
Picking Gakpo, which... What does Gakpo give

00:25:21.220 --> 00:25:25.579
you or what do you think he sees? The biggest

00:25:25.579 --> 00:25:28.400
thing I can think of is his height. If we're

00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:30.619
putting in crosses, we can't just have Ekotike,

00:25:30.619 --> 00:25:35.359
who's the one and only aerial threat. We need

00:25:35.359 --> 00:25:38.480
another aerial threat. Obviously, at corners,

00:25:38.579 --> 00:25:41.500
Van Dijk and Kanate come up, but I'm saying during

00:25:41.500 --> 00:25:46.259
open play, we need more threat in the box. So

00:25:46.259 --> 00:25:57.960
that could be one. Two... That's about it. He's

00:25:57.960 --> 00:26:00.359
just a 6 out of 10 player, right? I keep telling

00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:02.660
my cousin this. He's a 6 out of 10 player, and

00:26:02.660 --> 00:26:05.359
there's nothing wrong with that. It's just we

00:26:05.359 --> 00:26:08.700
need better. We need a different type of player,

00:26:08.819 --> 00:26:10.880
a different profile of player, somebody who's

00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:15.180
going to take on his man. So, I mean, if Kay's

00:26:15.180 --> 00:26:19.460
fitness isn't, like, something you can rely on,

00:26:19.619 --> 00:26:22.480
what would you say? We've got to sell Gakpo.

00:26:23.630 --> 00:26:26.230
No, I mean internally till the end of the season.

00:26:26.690 --> 00:26:31.089
I would play Rio Ngamua. The unfortunate thing

00:26:31.089 --> 00:26:38.549
is Rio's body cannot take that much strain. So

00:26:38.549 --> 00:26:42.710
we need to manage his minutes. Gakpo, I think,

00:26:42.710 --> 00:26:46.559
should be the backup. That, you know, eases Rio's...

00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:51.019
So they rotate... Yes. What's currently happening

00:26:51.019 --> 00:26:53.700
is Gakpo will play 70 minutes. Maybe even 80

00:26:53.700 --> 00:26:57.480
minutes, Rio will play 10. Right? I think it

00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:02.140
should be flipped or, you know... But that's

00:27:02.140 --> 00:27:05.420
beside the point. Because Gakpo doesn't help

00:27:05.420 --> 00:27:08.180
with breaking down a low block. He just takes

00:27:08.180 --> 00:27:10.720
long shots. Which, you know, maybe could lead

00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:13.599
to a corner, which could lead to a goal, but

00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:18.819
he doesn't, his 1v1 quality is not good enough.

00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:23.740
And out of possession? What would you say? He's

00:27:23.740 --> 00:27:28.480
not even good at that. He's not, like... My biggest

00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:31.420
concern is that he doesn't make use of Kyrgyz.

00:27:32.099 --> 00:27:35.180
Right? The point of Kyrgyz is that he bombs on

00:27:35.180 --> 00:27:39.500
forward and puts it across. He never... I cannot

00:27:39.500 --> 00:27:43.019
even remember a time that he's passed to Kirke

00:27:43.019 --> 00:27:47.579
as ever. That's how seldom it happens. He always

00:27:47.579 --> 00:27:52.160
cuts in. Yes, he's so predictable. And if he

00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:54.759
doesn't get any output, you know, you really

00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:57.900
feel how many attacks he's killed. Yeah, I mean,

00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:01.420
if someone gets consistent output, then it's

00:28:01.420 --> 00:28:04.019
hard to criticize them. Well, I was criticizing

00:28:04.019 --> 00:28:06.099
even when he did get output because it was still

00:28:06.099 --> 00:28:08.799
killing so many attacks. If you kill 10 attacks

00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:10.859
and score one goal, it's not worth it for me.

00:28:11.119 --> 00:28:17.119
You know, but whatever. That's one. The other

00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:19.299
thing I want to say is perhaps a very unpopular

00:28:19.299 --> 00:28:24.140
thing is Sabotslai. Sabotslai, I'll make this

00:28:24.140 --> 00:28:26.859
point in another game just now, but he is good

00:28:26.859 --> 00:28:29.740
in big games because his main attribute is pressing,

00:28:29.880 --> 00:28:33.029
right? Against the smaller teams, he's not maybe

00:28:33.029 --> 00:28:35.450
the most technical player to break down a team,

00:28:35.609 --> 00:28:38.390
right? I would have thought McAllister would

00:28:38.390 --> 00:28:42.470
have been a better player. But the thing is,

00:28:42.569 --> 00:28:46.970
you can't just drop Savoslai, right? And, you

00:28:46.970 --> 00:28:49.750
know, Slot is already under pressure. If he drops

00:28:49.750 --> 00:28:52.990
Savoslai, they'll be calling for his head. Now,

00:28:52.990 --> 00:28:57.849
when we get to the individual incidences, Savoslai

00:28:57.849 --> 00:29:00.500
misses a penalty. Take that out of the conversation

00:29:00.500 --> 00:29:04.099
completely. I'm only speaking about open play.

00:29:04.539 --> 00:29:07.819
He killed the momentum in a lot of attacks. He's

00:29:07.819 --> 00:29:12.500
just not on the same page as a lot of players.

00:29:13.359 --> 00:29:15.960
Don't take this as me saying he's a bad player.

00:29:16.259 --> 00:29:19.799
I just think this game didn't suit his type of

00:29:19.799 --> 00:29:22.900
play. That's all I'm trying to get at. If we

00:29:22.900 --> 00:29:26.109
had better options... We do actually have better

00:29:26.109 --> 00:29:27.990
options. I think McAllister should have started

00:29:27.990 --> 00:29:31.730
ahead of him. But, again, this is why I'm blaming

00:29:31.730 --> 00:29:37.509
slot. Those are my two points of blame. But,

00:29:37.569 --> 00:29:40.509
yeah, your thoughts about general play? Yeah,

00:29:40.569 --> 00:29:42.329
I mean, I'd agree with most things you said.

00:29:42.509 --> 00:29:46.430
I'd just say, like, maybe Sabozla is, like, someone

00:29:46.430 --> 00:29:48.759
who... like you said, gives you a lot out of

00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:51.700
possession. But in a game against Burnley, we

00:29:51.700 --> 00:29:54.500
don't necessarily need to be, you know, pressing

00:29:54.500 --> 00:29:58.720
them. So we don't need that type of player. We

00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:02.240
need a more technical player. Yeah, I mean, maybe

00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:04.940
he didn't know what the game state was going

00:30:04.940 --> 00:30:08.900
to be, and he assumed that... But come on, man.

00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:12.539
Even I told you before the game started, we know

00:30:12.539 --> 00:30:15.339
Burnley's going to sit deep, try to get us on

00:30:15.339 --> 00:30:18.809
the counter. the question is trying to unlock

00:30:18.809 --> 00:30:23.670
them. I think he thinks Wurz is enough. But Wurz

00:30:23.670 --> 00:30:28.009
can only do so much without, you know, with like

00:30:28.009 --> 00:30:31.089
Sabasa killing the tempo, with Gakpo killing

00:30:31.089 --> 00:30:35.049
the tempo, you know. But yeah. Yeah, I mean,

00:30:35.049 --> 00:30:38.089
I get what you're saying. I'm just thinking that

00:30:38.089 --> 00:30:41.609
some coaches still, like even Arteta, obviously

00:30:41.609 --> 00:30:44.630
we'll talk about that later, but they prioritize

00:30:44.630 --> 00:30:49.180
out of possession. In terms of, I think they

00:30:49.180 --> 00:30:58.920
focus on reducing as much, like I guess, what's

00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:04.720
the word that they say in financial stuff? Like

00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:08.359
a calculated risk. I think they are very much

00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:15.570
less, their coach is like halfway between like

00:31:15.570 --> 00:31:20.130
whatever they've learnt and I think like slot

00:31:20.130 --> 00:31:23.250
is halfway between like Louis van Gaal and Pep

00:31:23.250 --> 00:31:27.730
Guardiola more than being directly compared to

00:31:27.730 --> 00:31:30.089
Pep Guardiola but I do understand what he's doing

00:31:30.089 --> 00:31:33.029
and I do think you can win a league long term

00:31:33.029 --> 00:31:35.150
and I think he's more focusing on building a

00:31:35.150 --> 00:31:38.549
team that controls a game out of possession because

00:31:39.740 --> 00:31:41.980
I think it's harder to play against consistently.

00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:46.480
And if you can't sign, like you said, world -class

00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:48.900
players, top players, all the time in every position.

00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:53.079
He already probably knew signing players for

00:31:53.079 --> 00:31:55.240
this much was going to limit him in future transfer

00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:59.579
windows. So he had to consider out of possession,

00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:02.200
I think, as much as in possession, in my opinion.

00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:08.900
Well, back to the game. So I was saying we had

00:32:08.900 --> 00:32:13.599
enough chances. We had seven shots on target

00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:17.880
and 3 .5 expected goals, right? And we scored

00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:21.059
one. And that indicates that they just weren't

00:32:21.059 --> 00:32:23.200
good enough today. They weren't clinical enough.

00:32:23.740 --> 00:32:26.099
I just don't understand how people can blame

00:32:26.099 --> 00:32:28.579
slot. That's the main talking point coming out

00:32:28.579 --> 00:32:31.759
of this weekend, that slot is to blame for this.

00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:33.940
I mean, football fans are generally, it's like,

00:32:34.140 --> 00:32:39.279
online. And in terms of that most people today

00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:41.819
consume online content, very reactionary. Do

00:32:41.819 --> 00:32:44.819
you want to get into beef? Yeah. So there's this

00:32:44.819 --> 00:32:48.240
bald guy. I don't mean that in a negative way.

00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:51.299
If you're bald, that's not a bad thing. I'm just

00:32:51.299 --> 00:32:53.400
trying to describe this fellow. They do hair

00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:56.640
transplants in Turkey. No, man. There's this

00:32:56.640 --> 00:33:00.039
bald guy on YouTube. He's a Liverpool fan. He's

00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:03.880
an Irish guy. I don't know his name, but he just

00:33:03.880 --> 00:33:06.759
does outrage clips. and my cousin loves to watch

00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:10.039
him and i just see him and he has like such a

00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:12.740
poor understanding of football and i just saw

00:33:12.740 --> 00:33:16.619
his uh his video pop up in my feed and it said

00:33:16.619 --> 00:33:21.599
i want slot out now it's too depressing i just

00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:23.900
like right did you even watch the game what did

00:33:23.900 --> 00:33:27.819
what can what more can slot do uh you know but

00:33:27.819 --> 00:33:30.799
yeah um do you want to get oh sorry you wanted

00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:32.200
to say something i was just going to say that

00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:35.789
i think it's an unfair comparison for Whether

00:33:35.789 --> 00:33:37.990
it's Jurgen Klopp, I know you probably fully

00:33:37.990 --> 00:33:40.250
didn't agree. I think Pep Guardiola is still

00:33:40.250 --> 00:33:43.490
the better coach. I just think it's unfair to

00:33:43.490 --> 00:33:47.170
fully compare anyone to a manager, to a coach

00:33:47.170 --> 00:33:48.990
who's in a position where they can consistently

00:33:48.990 --> 00:33:52.170
sign whoever they want at any point in any transfer

00:33:52.170 --> 00:33:55.089
market. Because hypothetically, even if it had

00:33:55.089 --> 00:33:57.809
been Antonio Conte, he would probably be winning

00:33:57.809 --> 00:34:02.420
the league as much with Manchester City. So,

00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:04.980
do you want to get into individual incidences

00:34:04.980 --> 00:34:07.640
in this game? Yeah, we can start. So, obviously,

00:34:07.980 --> 00:34:11.599
Sabotslai misses a penalty. Now, the penalty

00:34:11.599 --> 00:34:15.260
itself, I thought, was very soft. So, in a cosmic

00:34:15.260 --> 00:34:18.659
sense, karma was... I mean, justice was served.

00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:22.659
It was right that we shouldn't have scored that.

00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:26.659
In terms of my fantasy team, I was fuming. Sabotslai

00:34:26.659 --> 00:34:28.780
is in my team, and I just wanted to break something.

00:34:28.940 --> 00:34:31.869
I wanted to just, like... Just throw something.

00:34:32.070 --> 00:34:36.289
I was so angry. He's done absolutely nothing

00:34:36.289 --> 00:34:39.230
the last couple of weeks. The only reason I have

00:34:39.230 --> 00:34:41.230
him is because he's a penalty taker now because

00:34:41.230 --> 00:34:44.460
Salah was away at AFCON. And I'm like, all right,

00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:47.400
here's it. It's all, you know, you've let me

00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:50.340
down for so many weeks. Today's the day. Today's

00:34:50.340 --> 00:34:52.260
the day it's all going to pay off. And he just

00:34:52.260 --> 00:34:56.119
slams it on the crossbar. And, I mean, you're

00:34:56.119 --> 00:34:58.460
probably, like, historically one of the people

00:34:58.460 --> 00:35:02.280
who rates him most highly. Yeah. No, well, I'm

00:35:02.280 --> 00:35:04.980
not angry with him based on one match. Yeah.

00:35:05.059 --> 00:35:07.000
I'm just pointing it out. No, I'm just putting

00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:08.699
it out there so people don't think you have a

00:35:08.699 --> 00:35:13.170
beef with Bozler, you know. The second incident

00:35:13.170 --> 00:35:16.750
I want to bring up is Wurz's goal. Yeah, that

00:35:16.750 --> 00:35:20.630
was a sensational finish. Not enough people are

00:35:20.630 --> 00:35:23.809
talking about Ekotike's role in it. And I think

00:35:23.809 --> 00:35:27.710
that's exactly what we need. We need people driving

00:35:27.710 --> 00:35:32.389
at the opposition 1v1, making the space so that...

00:35:33.960 --> 00:35:36.460
Other people can shoot. Yeah, I love him so much.

00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:38.380
If I could sign any player in the league, it

00:35:38.380 --> 00:35:41.579
would be him, even over Haaland. I mean, Haaland

00:35:41.579 --> 00:35:45.420
has... I just see his ceiling as being incredibly

00:35:45.420 --> 00:35:46.980
high. Well, we were speaking about this in the

00:35:46.980 --> 00:35:49.400
previous episode, but I was saying Haaland's

00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:53.500
link -up play is not... as good as Ekotike. I

00:35:53.500 --> 00:35:55.519
didn't actually say that, but I was implying

00:35:55.519 --> 00:35:59.059
it. I think Haaland's still probably better finisher,

00:35:59.139 --> 00:36:02.599
better striker overall, but Ekotike's link -up

00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:05.420
play was, in the very limited time we've seen

00:36:05.420 --> 00:36:08.280
of him, is better than Haaland, I think. I think

00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:10.599
it's just about ironing out the margins with

00:36:10.599 --> 00:36:14.679
Ekotike. I think he has the potential to be one

00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:17.960
of the best players in the world. We've seen

00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:20.500
many strikers. I mean, one of them being Thierry

00:36:20.500 --> 00:36:23.960
Henry only hit his peak like around 24. So he

00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:26.559
still has a while to go, you know. I think he's

00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:30.420
23. So a year is a long time. A year is a long

00:36:30.420 --> 00:36:32.539
time. But either way, I think like Henry started

00:36:32.539 --> 00:36:37.059
developing his finishing around 24, 25. And then

00:36:37.059 --> 00:36:39.719
he became probably the best player in the world

00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:43.699
when he was like 28, 27. Yeah. All right. Then

00:36:43.699 --> 00:36:50.860
I burned his goal. It's just Gravenberg and Konate

00:36:50.860 --> 00:36:54.699
falling asleep. What do you think has happened

00:36:54.699 --> 00:36:59.460
to Gravenberg? Just the games have been different.

00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:05.059
He's not... He's not the type of player to help

00:37:05.059 --> 00:37:08.860
break down a team. Like, his progressive passing

00:37:08.860 --> 00:37:14.000
is not his main skill. His main skill is his

00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:18.429
dribbling and getting out of... tight spaces

00:37:18.429 --> 00:37:25.010
to unleash somebody else. But again, breaking

00:37:25.010 --> 00:37:29.550
down a Burnley team, he's not effective. Do you

00:37:29.550 --> 00:37:33.809
think he's dropped off purely as a holding midfielder

00:37:33.809 --> 00:37:37.150
off of last season? Even last season when we

00:37:37.150 --> 00:37:39.250
were doing well, I thought we still needed to

00:37:39.250 --> 00:37:43.630
buy a better... a proper CDM, and let him play

00:37:43.630 --> 00:37:47.429
as the eight. I mean, Slott probably wanted Zubamendi.

00:37:47.590 --> 00:37:49.849
That was his first choice of signing. Could be.

00:37:52.050 --> 00:37:54.550
Even if we didn't get Zubamendi, I think we should

00:37:54.550 --> 00:37:57.489
have, you know, just been more in the market,

00:37:57.550 --> 00:38:02.949
you know. Like, I just don't understand. Not

00:38:02.949 --> 00:38:05.570
don't understand, but I don't think Gravenberg

00:38:05.570 --> 00:38:09.550
long -term and in certain games is the best choice.

00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:14.760
But let's get past that. Alisson also should

00:38:14.760 --> 00:38:18.199
have done better. It was a very good finish.

00:38:18.219 --> 00:38:20.420
I have to take my cap off to Marcus Edwards.

00:38:22.039 --> 00:38:26.780
What did you think of Burnley's goal? Yeah, I

00:38:26.780 --> 00:38:28.380
thought it was a good finish. Like you said,

00:38:28.539 --> 00:38:33.019
sloppy defending. But I think all in all, it

00:38:33.019 --> 00:38:35.679
could just be one of those games. How many bad

00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:39.800
games does Alisson have? How many, like, bad

00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:43.119
games does even Gravenberg have? I mean, it's

00:38:43.119 --> 00:38:46.199
unfair to say that. Like, I think unless you're

00:38:46.199 --> 00:38:48.539
talking about Zubamendi or Caicedo, there's still

00:38:48.539 --> 00:38:51.579
probably, he's the next best defensive midfielder

00:38:51.579 --> 00:38:53.260
in the league for me. So, we're just talking

00:38:53.260 --> 00:38:56.420
about margins, you know. And, once again, how

00:38:56.420 --> 00:38:59.139
do you blame slot for these guys falling asleep?

00:38:59.219 --> 00:39:04.349
You know, it's... I've seen it in the past with

00:39:04.349 --> 00:39:07.409
Arsenal. You can't blame a coach for losing a

00:39:07.409 --> 00:39:10.710
game through individual errors. And sometimes

00:39:10.710 --> 00:39:14.070
it pays to be persistent. You never know. I was

00:39:14.070 --> 00:39:16.969
of the firm belief that Gabriel should be gotten

00:39:16.969 --> 00:39:22.289
rid of. And I was proved to be wrong. I think

00:39:22.289 --> 00:39:24.929
the coach always knows more, especially if they've

00:39:24.929 --> 00:39:27.170
won a Premier League title. But generally, it's

00:39:27.170 --> 00:39:30.949
unfair to criticise someone who's... Who has

00:39:30.949 --> 00:39:34.949
competed at the top end of world football? To

00:39:34.949 --> 00:39:37.929
the level where the things you're saying are

00:39:37.929 --> 00:39:43.110
more than criticism. Okay. So that's all I have

00:39:43.110 --> 00:39:45.210
to say about the local game. Yeah, I thought

00:39:45.210 --> 00:39:48.869
Burnley were decent. They had a game plan. They

00:39:48.869 --> 00:39:52.889
came, they executed it. I can't fault them. They

00:39:52.889 --> 00:39:56.369
did what they needed to do. We were just poor.

00:39:57.239 --> 00:40:00.380
No, no, we weren't poor. Finishing was poor because

00:40:00.380 --> 00:40:04.500
we had the chances. The creative portion of the

00:40:04.500 --> 00:40:07.619
team did their job. They put us in good positions.

00:40:07.780 --> 00:40:11.960
The finishing was poor. Yeah. Do you want to

00:40:11.960 --> 00:40:14.099
move on to the Arsenal -Nottingham Forest game

00:40:14.099 --> 00:40:16.239
or the other way around? Forest -Arsenal game.

00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:19.400
Yeah, we can. If you're ready. I would like for

00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:22.639
you to take the lead in this because I was still

00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:25.079
at my uncle's house, but this is when the food

00:40:25.079 --> 00:40:27.840
comes in. Oh, now you're at the dinner table.

00:40:28.079 --> 00:40:29.599
I'm at the dinner table. You can still see the

00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:33.619
TV from the dinner table, but I wasn't 100 %

00:40:33.619 --> 00:40:37.780
focused now. And this game ends 0 -0. So not

00:40:37.780 --> 00:40:40.219
a lot of flashpoints, I don't think. I mean,

00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:44.840
yeah, it was a conventional Premier League 0

00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:51.030
-0 draw. I wouldn't say that Nottingham Forest

00:40:51.030 --> 00:40:55.050
created much. They defended really well. In a

00:40:55.050 --> 00:40:56.869
lot of ways, I wouldn't say Arsenal played badly

00:40:56.869 --> 00:41:01.710
either. It kind of falls into the same boat as

00:41:01.710 --> 00:41:04.789
you guys. I think we did enough to win. Martinelli

00:41:04.789 --> 00:41:08.090
missed a sitter. I think Mourinho missed a sitter

00:41:08.090 --> 00:41:12.349
as well. I think Trossout missed an easy chance.

00:41:13.969 --> 00:41:17.059
Barely watching the game. I would suggest that

00:41:17.059 --> 00:41:19.559
this game went almost precisely the same way

00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:21.440
as the Liverpool -Burnley game. Yeah, exactly.

00:41:21.659 --> 00:41:25.239
Because a lot of games just kind of go like this

00:41:25.239 --> 00:41:27.960
between a bigger team and a smaller team. They

00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:30.559
park the bus, it's the question of breaking them

00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:35.000
down. And that's what separates the league winners

00:41:35.000 --> 00:41:39.719
and top four, top five teams. It's that breaking

00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:44.519
down, you know... that team, having that extra

00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:48.099
little bit of quality to, you know, get the win.

00:41:48.420 --> 00:41:51.960
Yeah, I mean, sometimes it's like, it's also

00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:54.199
like, who do you blame in the team? Like, I think,

00:41:54.219 --> 00:41:58.380
I think you obviously blame the team as a whole.

00:41:58.500 --> 00:42:03.159
That's the normal thing to do from a, I guess,

00:42:03.179 --> 00:42:08.219
like a team building standpoint or a coaching

00:42:08.219 --> 00:42:13.039
standpoint. But I would say, you know, Arsenal

00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:16.599
created enough chances to win. It's like, again,

00:42:16.719 --> 00:42:19.960
from a coaching perspective, I think Oteta did

00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:22.539
enough to win the game. I think Kierkegaard missed

00:42:22.539 --> 00:42:25.420
another set -up. I think he missed two set -ups

00:42:25.420 --> 00:42:28.800
actually in the game. So it's not like we didn't

00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:32.159
do enough to win the game. It's more, from a

00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:34.059
coaching perspective, they didn't create anything.

00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:37.380
So it's just like one of those games. I think

00:42:37.380 --> 00:42:40.800
generally... Outside of Man City, we've been

00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:43.320
the best team at probably breaking down the low

00:42:43.320 --> 00:42:46.539
block this season. But they haven't been able

00:42:46.539 --> 00:42:50.900
to stop teams creating chances against them.

00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:55.400
I don't feel threatened as an Arsenal fan going

00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:59.000
into most games. But I would say that in this

00:42:59.000 --> 00:43:03.980
particular game, we did a lot. It wasn't like

00:43:03.980 --> 00:43:06.860
a game where you'd say that we didn't do enough

00:43:06.860 --> 00:43:11.909
to win it. We played bad. It was just a draw

00:43:11.909 --> 00:43:15.869
that came about. It was a good performance. Again,

00:43:15.949 --> 00:43:18.750
I think if we had a player like Ekotike, we could

00:43:18.750 --> 00:43:21.250
have won that game because, again, I think Kyrgyz

00:43:21.250 --> 00:43:23.750
did well, but he didn't really understand the

00:43:23.750 --> 00:43:27.650
midfielders or link with them as well as they

00:43:27.650 --> 00:43:29.650
would have wanted, interpret a lot of their passes.

00:43:29.750 --> 00:43:33.309
He's a very direct runner. I think, like, Arsenal

00:43:33.309 --> 00:43:35.590
have a lot of, like, especially maybe one thing

00:43:35.590 --> 00:43:39.340
I want to mention is... Declan Rice, from open

00:43:39.340 --> 00:43:41.559
play, he's creating a lot of chances in the last

00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:44.800
three or four games compared to... I think he's

00:43:44.800 --> 00:43:47.260
taking on that responsibility maybe because Saka's

00:43:47.260 --> 00:43:49.139
still... I don't think Saka's still fully fit.

00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:52.460
I don't know if he's playing at his best yet.

00:43:52.619 --> 00:43:54.800
He seems to be getting there slowly. I'm hoping

00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:57.559
by the end of the season he'll be there. But

00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:01.400
Declan Rice has... I think yesterday we had...

00:44:02.380 --> 00:44:05.079
Close to 3x3, and almost all of them came from

00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:09.360
Rice, I think. So, from open play, he's really

00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:12.380
improved his creativity. I mean, also, he guarantees

00:44:12.380 --> 00:44:14.599
you a certain amount of chances he creates to

00:44:14.599 --> 00:44:17.340
set pieces the game, and they're really good

00:44:17.340 --> 00:44:19.840
chances. I think maybe there's an over -reliance

00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:23.059
on that. If Declan Rice gets injured, can you

00:44:23.059 --> 00:44:25.340
replace that capacity? Because I think he's playing

00:44:25.340 --> 00:44:28.880
so well right now, it's like, it's hard to see.

00:44:29.420 --> 00:44:33.739
Better than Gerrard, I'm hearing. Bro, you know

00:44:33.739 --> 00:44:35.960
I'm not that guy. No, no, no, no. I didn't say

00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:38.380
it was you. You're talking about exaggerated

00:44:38.380 --> 00:44:40.639
opinions. I'm telling the audience this is what

00:44:40.639 --> 00:44:43.300
I'm hearing. But he is the best midfielder in

00:44:43.300 --> 00:44:45.920
the Premier League right now, comfortably. I

00:44:45.920 --> 00:44:48.980
disagree. Who would you say is? Kaisero. Oh,

00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:53.039
no. But we can disagree. So do you have anything

00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:56.340
else you want to say about this game? I mean,

00:44:56.380 --> 00:44:58.659
I give Nottingham Forest their credit for defending

00:44:58.659 --> 00:45:04.380
well. They did, like, Calum Hudson -Odoi was

00:45:04.380 --> 00:45:06.360
a big threat, like, in terms of his dribbling.

00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:09.719
He managed to pin us back a few times. But I

00:45:09.719 --> 00:45:11.559
wouldn't say it was like a game where, again,

00:45:11.639 --> 00:45:17.960
you need to get overly... What is it? You need

00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:20.039
to praise them too much or praise Arsenal too

00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:23.880
much. I think a draw was the fair result. Like

00:45:23.880 --> 00:45:27.139
I said, I didn't watch most of the game. But

00:45:27.139 --> 00:45:31.420
I would just throw out a few things. One, Eze

00:45:31.420 --> 00:45:34.420
didn't get a proper run out, did he? Yeah, we've

00:45:34.420 --> 00:45:37.219
seen this from Arteta before. He will eventually

00:45:37.219 --> 00:45:41.239
start. I don't want to say he should replace

00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:44.539
Odegaard. Because Odegaard is a very good creator.

00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:48.320
But the same kind of point I was making about

00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:51.380
Sabotslai versus Burnley, I sometimes think the

00:45:51.380 --> 00:45:55.179
same thing about Odegaard, that he's much better

00:45:55.179 --> 00:45:58.500
off the ball, play him in the big games, the

00:45:58.500 --> 00:46:00.820
smaller games, but it's not a one -to -one comparison

00:46:00.820 --> 00:46:02.679
because Odegaard is a much better creator than

00:46:02.679 --> 00:46:06.539
Sabotslai. But I just think Eze would offer more

00:46:06.539 --> 00:46:10.500
creativeness. That's a very subjective thing,

00:46:10.579 --> 00:46:13.099
I understand, but I think Eze would have been

00:46:13.099 --> 00:46:16.269
a... But the thing is, you created enough anyway.

00:46:16.630 --> 00:46:18.949
I just think you could have created even more

00:46:18.949 --> 00:46:22.389
if Eze was there instead of Odegaard. I think

00:46:22.389 --> 00:46:27.389
it would depend for me personally. I think Eze

00:46:27.389 --> 00:46:29.789
eventually gets in the team as a starter, especially

00:46:29.789 --> 00:46:31.829
when we get deeper in the Champions League. But

00:46:31.829 --> 00:46:35.550
I do expect him to be a left winger in Arsenal's

00:46:35.550 --> 00:46:39.059
set -up. I don't think we lack central creativity

00:46:39.059 --> 00:46:41.699
as long as Rice is performing well. Like I said,

00:46:41.699 --> 00:46:43.639
there's an over -reliance on Rice through the

00:46:43.639 --> 00:46:46.400
centre right now. I don't think Odegaard has

00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:48.880
the same capacity for creating chances in the

00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:52.960
final third. Again, this is stuff Rice is really

00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:55.260
new at. It's like every week he gets better as

00:46:55.260 --> 00:46:58.500
well, which is surprising because there's now

00:46:58.500 --> 00:47:00.639
things you can rely on him for that you maybe

00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:02.960
would have had to rely on other players for.

00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:06.420
I think Zubamendi's form in the last two or three

00:47:06.420 --> 00:47:10.940
weeks, he's been able to push himself up the

00:47:10.940 --> 00:47:13.599
pitch, and you've also seen a lot of his creative

00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:16.139
play come in. They've benefited each other, but

00:47:16.139 --> 00:47:19.820
I think more of it is down to, oh, okay, Zubamendi

00:47:19.820 --> 00:47:21.960
can control the game high up the pitch because

00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:24.320
Rice is taking passes that Odegaard wouldn't

00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:31.019
take before. I still see the problem with Odegaard

00:47:31.019 --> 00:47:34.820
being out the team, though. the press drops off

00:47:34.820 --> 00:47:38.739
and again I think leaking chances although I

00:47:38.739 --> 00:47:41.420
used to be someone who believes you can consistently

00:47:41.420 --> 00:47:44.659
outscore your opponent but like you said if you

00:47:44.659 --> 00:47:46.480
don't have the best players if you're competing

00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:49.940
against Manchester City It makes more sense to

00:47:49.940 --> 00:47:52.639
be defensively solid because I think it's, like,

00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:54.579
pretty much impossible to match them in attack

00:47:54.579 --> 00:47:57.519
if they're, like, at full strength. You know

00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:00.519
what I'm saying? Well, we're out of the KDB era

00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:03.199
now. So, you know, things are different. But

00:48:03.199 --> 00:48:08.420
I take your point. Yes. The last point I want

00:48:08.420 --> 00:48:11.099
to make, and then I think we're done here. I've

00:48:11.099 --> 00:48:31.699
seen a lot of... I mean, it could have been seen

00:48:31.699 --> 00:48:33.719
as rotation. Some people could have said you

00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:37.940
wanted to get the three points. But, like, I

00:48:37.940 --> 00:48:40.949
understand it either way in terms of... I think

00:48:40.949 --> 00:48:42.869
Oteta thought we'd have enough to win the game,

00:48:42.969 --> 00:48:45.550
and they did kind of do enough. Martinelli, again,

00:48:45.650 --> 00:48:48.349
Mr. Sitter, Madueke, got in a lot of good positions,

00:48:48.510 --> 00:48:51.610
put in a lot of good balls. It's like, which

00:48:51.610 --> 00:48:54.949
game do you take the risk on, like, playing a

00:48:54.949 --> 00:48:57.909
player you need to play into form in, is my question.

00:48:58.250 --> 00:49:01.530
Oh, so I was... Sorry to interrupt. Because I

00:49:01.530 --> 00:49:05.039
do think... I'm personally a big fan of Kai Havertz,

00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:08.500
so I do think Jokeres drops out of the lineup

00:49:08.500 --> 00:49:10.179
as soon as... Okay, keep the Jokeres aside. I'm

00:49:10.179 --> 00:49:13.420
talking about the wingers more so. Their performance,

00:49:13.579 --> 00:49:15.579
what you thought about that? I mean, I think,

00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:17.780
like, obviously it was underwhelming to, like,

00:49:17.780 --> 00:49:19.719
fans online and stuff, and they could have done

00:49:19.719 --> 00:49:23.519
more. Like, I do think Maduweke created a few

00:49:23.519 --> 00:49:26.820
chances. He was threatening. But, like, I'm not

00:49:26.820 --> 00:49:29.599
judging players too harshly by one game or...

00:49:29.739 --> 00:49:31.699
I still see what they can offer. Remember, those

00:49:31.699 --> 00:49:35.519
are the backup options. I don't think in any

00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:38.820
way they're going to replace Saka and Trossard

00:49:38.820 --> 00:49:43.900
going forward as the main starters. I think managers

00:49:43.900 --> 00:49:46.539
rotate. Whether it was the right game to rotate

00:49:46.539 --> 00:49:50.840
or not, that's a different question. I have a

00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:53.550
totally different reading of this. I'm under

00:49:53.550 --> 00:49:55.969
the impression that this was a tactical change,

00:49:56.130 --> 00:50:01.030
that the type of winger Madueke is, and the type

00:50:01.030 --> 00:50:03.610
of winger Martinelli is, Arteta thought they

00:50:03.610 --> 00:50:08.090
could get better, you know, they would have a

00:50:08.090 --> 00:50:10.369
better, you know, runners would have a better

00:50:10.369 --> 00:50:13.989
chance against Forrest than, say, Osaka, who,

00:50:14.170 --> 00:50:16.409
you know, is a different type of winger. But

00:50:16.409 --> 00:50:19.210
I think he's, like, kind of conditioned Madueke

00:50:19.210 --> 00:50:21.820
to... slowly trained his game into being more

00:50:21.820 --> 00:50:23.679
like Saka's like I think it's happening game

00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:25.760
by game but I think he wants him to be a backup

00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:30.000
to Saka I don't think he wants that like like

00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:34.019
oh if like maybe Maduike has more pace you can

00:50:34.019 --> 00:50:36.500
use the transitional threat but I think Otetazo

00:50:36.500 --> 00:50:38.920
has been kind of someone who's like to balance

00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:42.179
he wouldn't he hardly ever goes for two like

00:50:42.179 --> 00:50:45.019
pacey wingers unless the pacey winger is also

00:50:45.019 --> 00:50:47.840
creative, you know. Like, Saka has a decent amount

00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:50.260
of pace and Martinelli can have some games where

00:50:50.260 --> 00:50:53.739
he creates a lot of chances, but it's very seldom

00:50:53.739 --> 00:50:56.300
that he just put in two wingers, I think, purely

00:50:56.300 --> 00:50:59.940
out of their pace and power. I think it's also

00:50:59.940 --> 00:51:02.099
a game of, like, you know, you have to practice

00:51:02.099 --> 00:51:04.960
in real life, in real time, and I think he wants

00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:08.019
Martinelli to play more like Trossard and he

00:51:08.019 --> 00:51:12.179
wants Maduike to play more like Saka, so... The

00:51:12.179 --> 00:51:14.239
squad dynamics are the same when he rotates.

00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:18.659
I see. So those are our three highlight matches

00:51:18.659 --> 00:51:22.960
of the week. And now we're just going to go through

00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:28.880
some quick hits. So quick. Is that... What is

00:51:28.880 --> 00:51:31.719
it? It's so hot. Oh, I thought it was Hong Kong

00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:36.079
Fooey. No. It's like a whoop. Doesn't he also

00:51:36.079 --> 00:51:40.280
say... No, but that's Karate. Or Kung Fu, I mean.

00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:42.920
So that's like a chop. Yeah, that's different

00:51:42.920 --> 00:51:48.099
to what I'm whooping. It's so hot. Okay. Let's

00:51:48.099 --> 00:51:49.820
start with the quick hits then. All right. Well,

00:51:49.940 --> 00:51:51.860
when I say quick, I mean like a few minutes.

00:51:52.780 --> 00:51:56.219
So the AFCON final happened this week. Like I

00:51:56.219 --> 00:51:58.260
mentioned last week, I'm more or less checked

00:51:58.260 --> 00:52:04.679
out of AFCON. I put it on in extra time. So I

00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:07.780
missed all the controversy, which we're going

00:52:07.780 --> 00:52:11.929
to go through just now. And that starts with

00:52:11.929 --> 00:52:21.110
Senegal having a popular, not popular, people

00:52:21.110 --> 00:52:26.070
thought a legitimate goal ruled out. Your thoughts?

00:52:26.550 --> 00:52:28.530
I mean, Senegal's first goal was definitely a

00:52:28.530 --> 00:52:31.630
legitimate goal. Because I think Hakimi first

00:52:31.630 --> 00:52:34.789
tries to push the person who scored. No, no,

00:52:34.789 --> 00:52:39.309
no, not the goal. The disallowed goal. uh in

00:52:39.309 --> 00:52:45.250
the 80th minute which goal was that uh okay we're

00:52:45.250 --> 00:52:53.429
just gonna pause the recording yeah so uh what

00:52:53.429 --> 00:52:57.130
did you think of the disallowed goal for uh senegal

00:52:57.130 --> 00:53:01.590
uh yeah um i thought it wasn't like it was a

00:53:01.590 --> 00:53:04.809
fair goal i mean hakimi reaches his hands to

00:53:04.809 --> 00:53:08.059
push first and then i guess the senegal The attacker

00:53:08.059 --> 00:53:11.659
just raised his hands as well. Yeah, I thought

00:53:11.659 --> 00:53:15.400
it was quite soft. Nothing really to talk about

00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:20.480
there. Very soft. Next flashpoint is that Morocco

00:53:20.480 --> 00:53:28.800
awarded a penalty. Yes. For a foul. Yes. I mean,

00:53:28.820 --> 00:53:31.639
for a foul in the box on a corner kick, right?

00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:37.559
Is it a penalty, do you think? I mean, yeah,

00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:40.159
I would say it's a penalty overall for Morocco.

00:53:40.539 --> 00:53:43.000
All right. So this is where, if you didn't watch

00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:46.300
the Afghan final, Senegal's entire team walks

00:53:46.300 --> 00:53:49.079
off the pitch. Yeah, so they stayed to protest.

00:53:50.139 --> 00:53:53.920
And I think that was so unprofessional. I mean,

00:53:53.940 --> 00:53:58.300
shout out to Sadio Mane for respecting the event,

00:53:58.500 --> 00:54:02.239
bringing the team back out. But yeah, it was

00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:05.199
completely unprofessional. And I hope it doesn't

00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:07.019
get them banned from the next World Cup, but

00:54:07.019 --> 00:54:10.840
knowing FIFA, it might. I... It shouldn't ban

00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:12.980
you from a World Cup, but I just think that's

00:54:12.980 --> 00:54:17.659
like... You know, let's say they got it wrong,

00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:20.639
right? At the end of the day, referees, they're

00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:28.840
also humans, right? You can make a mistake. to

00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:31.400
walk off the pitch just shows such disrespect

00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:35.460
to the the competition to like the referees it

00:54:35.460 --> 00:54:39.000
was just i was just uh very frustrated with that

00:54:39.000 --> 00:54:42.239
and i saw people applauding it online and i'm

00:54:42.239 --> 00:54:46.139
like bro this is this you cannot award this type

00:54:46.139 --> 00:54:50.000
of behavior you need to they they should uh you

00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:56.809
know i don't know what you can do but uh it was

00:54:56.809 --> 00:55:01.170
very frustrating to me i mean it was unprofessional

00:55:01.170 --> 00:55:04.769
on the one on the one hand and at the same time

00:55:04.769 --> 00:55:07.929
i don't think people should get carried away

00:55:07.929 --> 00:55:15.969
with the needing to prove a point of like i don't

00:55:15.969 --> 00:55:17.550
think it's something that happens commonly in

00:55:17.550 --> 00:55:21.960
football and I don't think it's something where

00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:24.400
you particularly have to set a precedent. It's

00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:27.260
like a high -pressure moment. A lot of decisions

00:55:27.260 --> 00:55:31.519
are going against them in the game. I mean, I

00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:33.659
think it's just like something where the coach

00:55:33.659 --> 00:55:35.699
has been reactionary and the players have just

00:55:35.699 --> 00:55:39.699
followed suit. It doesn't make sense to ban the

00:55:39.699 --> 00:55:42.900
team from playing. Again, especially for a player

00:55:42.900 --> 00:55:44.739
like Sadio Mane, it might be his last World Cup.

00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:47.460
Not that they should prioritize an individual,

00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:51.920
but... again not everyone was involved people

00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:53.940
just followed the instruction of the coach and

00:55:53.940 --> 00:55:56.079
Sadio Mane was the only one who had the personality

00:55:56.079 --> 00:56:00.800
big enough to challenge him so that's how I interpreted

00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:04.360
it from the outside and I think while I can understand

00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:07.039
like your argument of like oh it's completely

00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:10.960
unprofessional which it is at the same time I

00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:13.980
can like understand the idea of like oh okay

00:56:14.829 --> 00:56:18.710
But imagine everybody, okay, there is like a

00:56:18.710 --> 00:56:21.929
precedent where like if there was like a racist

00:56:21.929 --> 00:56:23.889
incident that happened, I can't remember what

00:56:23.889 --> 00:56:27.210
exactly, but the team walked off the pitch. That's

00:56:27.210 --> 00:56:31.769
a reasonable thing in my opinion. Disagreeing

00:56:31.769 --> 00:56:35.650
with the referee to walk off the pitch is not

00:56:35.650 --> 00:56:39.690
on, in my opinion, right? But we can move on

00:56:39.690 --> 00:56:42.920
from that. So from the resulting penalty. uh,

00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:46.880
Brahim Diaz does a panenka and, uh, uh, it gets

00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:51.860
saved. Um, your thoughts on that? Hmm. Well,

00:56:52.179 --> 00:56:56.579
it's one, it's like, it's a stupid decision,

00:56:56.699 --> 00:57:00.619
but in retrospect, uh, it's come off before and

00:57:00.619 --> 00:57:02.139
if the player missed, he would have said it's

00:57:02.139 --> 00:57:07.599
a stupid decision as well. Like, yeah, he fucked

00:57:07.599 --> 00:57:11.639
up. Oh, sorry, sorry. There's a, A game where

00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:17.159
Fabinho did that. And I was like, kind of, I

00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:19.820
don't want to say furious, but I was like, even

00:57:19.820 --> 00:57:21.980
though it worked out, that's such a dumb thing

00:57:21.980 --> 00:57:24.960
to do. But if a player goes left or right and

00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:28.300
they still miss, the keeper saves it, what's

00:57:28.300 --> 00:57:30.400
the difference? Like, that's the argument that

00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:33.400
a lot of people are making. The numbers. Yeah,

00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:36.239
but I mean, Panekas are hardly missed. Probably,

00:57:36.340 --> 00:57:38.119
like, what are the actual numbers if you looked

00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:42.199
into it? Who misses a Panenka? When most of the

00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:45.599
time it's tried, it's come off. I don't know.

00:57:45.619 --> 00:57:47.300
We need to look into the stats for that because

00:57:47.300 --> 00:57:51.500
I disagree. But yeah, overall, I just want to

00:57:51.500 --> 00:57:56.840
say congratulations to Sadio Mane. There's another

00:57:56.840 --> 00:58:01.139
Liverpool winger that I was told carried the

00:58:01.139 --> 00:58:04.079
team. last year. He didn't need anybody else

00:58:04.079 --> 00:58:06.260
on the team. It was him and 10 planks of wood,

00:58:06.400 --> 00:58:09.380
right? The manager didn't have any tactics. It

00:58:09.380 --> 00:58:11.639
was just him versus the world, right? And he

00:58:11.639 --> 00:58:15.440
won the Premier League on his own. So, that's

00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:18.400
fine, fine. I'm just wondering, why couldn't

00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:23.119
this player win AFCON on their own? Sometimes

00:58:23.119 --> 00:58:28.960
it happens. I'm just seeing, oh, Mane had, you

00:58:28.960 --> 00:58:33.500
know, Ismail Assar. Illumin and DI, you know,

00:58:33.519 --> 00:58:37.679
like other players to help out. And this other

00:58:37.679 --> 00:58:41.099
Liverpool winger, I won't mention names. You

00:58:41.099 --> 00:58:46.539
know, he has no help. And to which I say, isn't

00:58:46.539 --> 00:58:48.539
that the argument you're making that he had no

00:58:48.539 --> 00:58:50.860
help at Liverpool and he still won it? So this

00:58:50.860 --> 00:58:53.760
guy is so good. I just don't see why he can't

00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:57.260
win it on his own. And it looks like he's probably

00:58:57.260 --> 00:59:01.630
going to retire without having won it. On the

00:59:01.630 --> 00:59:03.110
one hand, that's a shame. On the other hand,

00:59:03.230 --> 00:59:06.989
perhaps it's because he's not good enough. But,

00:59:07.070 --> 00:59:12.510
yeah. Anyway. I mean, that's your opinion. Yeah.

00:59:13.489 --> 00:59:16.989
Anyway, next game, Sunderland 2, Curse of Palace

00:59:16.989 --> 00:59:20.349
1. Remember, this is quick hits. We just need

00:59:20.349 --> 00:59:23.449
to... I didn't watch it, but I've been really

00:59:23.449 --> 00:59:25.550
impressed with Sunderland this season, generally.

00:59:25.929 --> 00:59:29.449
Like I said, I thought it was probably like one

00:59:29.449 --> 00:59:32.639
of... Two games, the other one being against

00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:35.219
you guys where I thought we got outplayed by

00:59:35.219 --> 00:59:39.260
the opposition. I could have predicted this Palace

00:59:39.260 --> 00:59:43.559
fall off a while ago because their squad is so

00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:46.719
thin. It doesn't matter how good your starting

00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:49.199
XI is. Like if you're playing games, especially

00:59:49.199 --> 00:59:51.699
if you're in Europe like Palace is, you need

00:59:51.699 --> 00:59:55.550
backups. And quality backups. And then they've

00:59:55.550 --> 00:59:57.449
lost their two best players. Well, I guess they

00:59:57.449 --> 00:59:59.710
lost Eze at the start of the season and now they've

00:59:59.710 --> 01:00:04.590
lost Mark Weahy. Yes. So they were going to sell

01:00:04.590 --> 01:00:07.690
us Weahy until Glasner intervened. How can you

01:00:07.690 --> 01:00:11.989
sell Weahy without having a backup lined up or

01:00:11.989 --> 01:00:15.670
a backup bought? You know, it's very strange.

01:00:15.869 --> 01:00:19.289
It's poor planning. And I mean, it's the type

01:00:19.289 --> 01:00:21.909
of planning that can get you caught into a relegation

01:00:21.909 --> 01:00:24.690
battle in following seasons, if we're being honest.

01:00:24.929 --> 01:00:29.150
And Glasner, so what do you think of this? Before

01:00:29.150 --> 01:00:31.010
the game this weekend, he announced that he's

01:00:31.010 --> 01:00:34.690
not signing a new contract. Again, I think in

01:00:34.690 --> 01:00:37.469
the same way, if you're saying Senegal is unprofessional,

01:00:37.530 --> 01:00:40.090
that's extremely unprofessional as well. Especially

01:00:40.090 --> 01:00:44.369
from a pro -level coach. I mean, they're still

01:00:44.369 --> 01:00:48.590
paying your salary. putting you in work. Those

01:00:48.590 --> 01:00:52.349
are still the players you coach. So that's one

01:00:52.349 --> 01:00:55.070
thing. Then he makes these comments that are

01:00:55.070 --> 01:01:00.989
very negative about the Crystal Palace owners.

01:01:01.289 --> 01:01:04.030
He's frustrated that he hasn't been getting new

01:01:04.030 --> 01:01:08.409
recruits and players haven't been replaced. And

01:01:08.409 --> 01:01:13.710
I agree with him to a certain extent. But on

01:01:13.710 --> 01:01:16.789
the other hand, He hasn't given a chance to certain

01:01:16.789 --> 01:01:21.210
players that were there, right? So, for example,

01:01:21.210 --> 01:01:26.070
the two players that I've seen Palace fans say,

01:01:26.170 --> 01:01:28.130
hey, why isn't this person getting a chance?

01:01:28.389 --> 01:01:31.690
The first guy, his name is Cristianos Uche, who's

01:01:31.690 --> 01:01:35.889
a striker. John -Philippe Mettecha has been played

01:01:35.889 --> 01:01:40.110
into the ground. And Nketiah has been injured,

01:01:40.210 --> 01:01:43.329
I believe. Yeah, I mean, but at the... Start

01:01:43.329 --> 01:01:45.170
of the season, people were talking of Mateta

01:01:45.170 --> 01:01:49.510
as one of the best strikers in the league. So,

01:01:49.730 --> 01:01:55.269
yeah. The second guy, his name is Romain Essay.

01:01:56.130 --> 01:01:58.510
He's currently out on loan now. He went out on

01:01:58.510 --> 01:02:02.550
loan a few days ago. But it's because he wasn't

01:02:02.550 --> 01:02:09.510
given a chance to play at all. So, I'm 50 % hey.

01:02:09.690 --> 01:02:16.289
Palace didn't back. glasner at all i'm 50 i don't

01:02:16.289 --> 01:02:20.130
want to say 50 i'm 20 like well glasner you're

01:02:20.130 --> 01:02:22.210
not giving certain guys any chances you know

01:02:22.210 --> 01:02:24.889
well i mean i think what glasner was always using

01:02:24.889 --> 01:02:28.929
palace as a a building block to something bigger

01:02:28.929 --> 01:02:32.309
and i think now that a lot of big jobs are available

01:02:32.309 --> 01:02:34.489
he's trying to put himself out there or that

01:02:34.489 --> 01:02:36.630
it's seeming like a lot of big jobs might be

01:02:36.630 --> 01:02:39.389
available he's trying to put himself out there

01:02:39.389 --> 01:02:42.940
but it's still unprofessional I'm not disagreeing

01:02:42.940 --> 01:02:44.780
with you on that. I'm just saying that I think

01:02:44.780 --> 01:02:46.940
that's his angle. He was always using Palace

01:02:46.940 --> 01:02:48.960
as a stepping stone, and I don't think he was

01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:53.420
ever planning on being there long term. Last

01:02:53.420 --> 01:02:56.480
point in this discussion, or not the entire discussion,

01:02:56.719 --> 01:03:00.340
I mean with this match, is Gwehi is leaving to

01:03:00.340 --> 01:03:03.920
Man City. What do you think about that? Top player,

01:03:04.119 --> 01:03:09.019
top coach. Yeah, I think a good signing for Man

01:03:09.019 --> 01:03:13.480
City. Still, you know, they're the only team

01:03:13.480 --> 01:03:17.460
that can do that, as I said. So it's like they're

01:03:17.460 --> 01:03:20.320
replacing players with new signings as they get

01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:24.760
injured. I'm not like... I am criticizing them

01:03:24.760 --> 01:03:29.360
because, I mean, we don't know the logistics

01:03:29.360 --> 01:03:33.300
of it all, but we'll see. I think it's a good

01:03:33.300 --> 01:03:35.260
signing, though. Mokwe, obviously one of the

01:03:35.260 --> 01:03:38.000
best defenders in the league. The only thing

01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:41.280
I would say is that... So he was linked with

01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:48.260
Liverpool and the like gay, not Gwehi, the gay

01:03:48.260 --> 01:03:53.179
people in the fan base were against signing Gwehi

01:03:53.179 --> 01:03:58.099
because, you know, you have the rainbow armband.

01:03:58.360 --> 01:04:01.840
One day Gwehi wrote on it. He said, Jesus loves

01:04:01.840 --> 01:04:05.219
you or something like that, which was like interpreted

01:04:05.219 --> 01:04:10.550
as him being like anti -gay. So. a lot of not

01:04:10.550 --> 01:04:12.969
a lot of but there's a portion of our fan base

01:04:12.969 --> 01:04:17.889
who are like well we don't want him uh you know

01:04:17.889 --> 01:04:21.650
at our club so i thought i should just mention

01:04:21.650 --> 01:04:24.969
that uh but otherwise like you said top signing

01:04:24.969 --> 01:04:28.710
for city um my only concern is that he plays

01:04:28.710 --> 01:04:31.610
in a back three and i'm very suspect of when

01:04:31.610 --> 01:04:34.429
a play in a back three goes to a back two i'm

01:04:34.429 --> 01:04:37.510
not saying he's going to be bad i'm saying It

01:04:37.510 --> 01:04:39.510
will take a while for him to adapt. I mean, we've

01:04:39.510 --> 01:04:45.409
seen it with Euro at Man United. Then, next match,

01:04:45.630 --> 01:04:51.880
Chelsea 2, Brentford 0. I didn't watch much of

01:04:51.880 --> 01:04:54.239
this game. I watched bits and pieces. Well, all

01:04:54.239 --> 01:04:56.079
of these games were happening at the same time

01:04:56.079 --> 01:04:59.000
as the Liverpool game. So I just watched the

01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:02.940
highlights and kind of looked at online discussion

01:05:02.940 --> 01:05:05.800
to see what people are saying about it. And the

01:05:05.800 --> 01:05:08.340
general consensus is that Brentford were the

01:05:08.340 --> 01:05:10.659
better team. But they made a few silly mistakes.

01:05:11.800 --> 01:05:14.199
Chelsea capitalised. Yeah, Chelsea capitalised

01:05:14.199 --> 01:05:17.360
and they gifted them the win. I mean, I did want

01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:19.420
to start watching more Chelsea games just to

01:05:19.420 --> 01:05:21.619
see what Rossini is all about or at least reading

01:05:21.619 --> 01:05:25.619
more about him. Time will tell, I guess. I did

01:05:25.619 --> 01:05:28.340
watch a couple of Strasbourg games last season.

01:05:30.099 --> 01:05:32.960
I don't know if he was manager then, but they

01:05:32.960 --> 01:05:37.139
played very well. So, based on highlights, I

01:05:37.139 --> 01:05:40.420
thought it was a fairly equal game. Right? I

01:05:40.420 --> 01:05:43.260
just, you know, not much commentary on this.

01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:45.440
Just Chelsea were more clinical, that's all.

01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:54.280
Tottenham 1, West Ham 2. Damn. Frank is on his

01:05:54.280 --> 01:05:57.340
way out, you think? Yeah. I mean, it's almost

01:05:57.340 --> 01:06:02.860
as if they might be dragged into being a bottom

01:06:02.860 --> 01:06:05.679
half team. They're like 14th now, I believe,

01:06:05.739 --> 01:06:07.780
right? Yeah, no, I'm saying in the long term.

01:06:09.320 --> 01:06:11.719
like it's seeming like it could start happening

01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:14.199
long term that Tottenham's like first has to

01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:18.159
rebuild and become a top half team again or not

01:06:18.159 --> 01:06:20.420
just saying that as an Arsenal fan but I think

01:06:20.420 --> 01:06:23.039
it's it's like there's so many issues that you

01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:27.119
don't know what's going on and I feel like you

01:06:27.119 --> 01:06:30.320
don't have players that are necessarily that

01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:35.760
bad so what's going on in terms of I don't think

01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:40.460
Pedro Porro, Christian Romero Van der Veen and

01:06:40.460 --> 01:06:42.500
Udogi. I don't think they're Champions League

01:06:42.500 --> 01:06:44.840
or Europa League level players, but they're not

01:06:44.840 --> 01:06:47.820
14th place in the Premier League. You could put

01:06:47.820 --> 01:06:50.380
them in many other clubs. You don't think they're

01:06:50.380 --> 01:06:52.539
Champions League players? Some of them. I think

01:06:52.539 --> 01:06:54.320
Van der Veen is a Champions League level player.

01:06:54.320 --> 01:06:56.820
I would say Van der Veen especially. I'm saying

01:06:56.820 --> 01:07:00.019
as a defence, a collective defence. The guy who

01:07:00.019 --> 01:07:02.900
really lets them down is Vicario to me. Yeah,

01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:06.460
he's not good at all. He just doesn't command...

01:07:07.559 --> 01:07:10.760
Like respect, basically. And crosses, he's terrible

01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:12.280
at dealing with crosses. Yeah, he doesn't give

01:07:12.280 --> 01:07:17.840
confidence to the players. But yeah, Spurs, I

01:07:17.840 --> 01:07:20.599
believe they're going to sack Frank soon. No

01:07:20.599 --> 01:07:23.639
idea who they're going to bring in. The markets

01:07:23.639 --> 01:07:29.019
are saying Xavi, Hernandez, not Xavi Simmons,

01:07:29.099 --> 01:07:31.019
but a manager. If he would take the job, I mean.

01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:37.559
So yeah, West Ham are going to survive. I hope

01:07:37.559 --> 01:07:40.000
not. Jared Bowen, the best player outside of

01:07:40.000 --> 01:07:46.360
the top six. Yeah. Okay, I hope West Ham don't

01:07:46.360 --> 01:07:54.480
survive. Yeah, I don't have anything to say on

01:07:54.480 --> 01:07:55.360
Jared Bowen. There's just hate in your heart.

01:07:55.440 --> 01:07:58.980
That's all it is, bro. Be honest. No, I don't

01:07:58.980 --> 01:08:00.400
hate Jared Bowen. You're a hater, dog. I've got

01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:02.639
to think of all the clubs outside of the top

01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:06.170
six. Is he the best player? He's a top, top player.

01:08:06.369 --> 01:08:08.090
Okay, the top six is... He should have replaced

01:08:08.090 --> 01:08:11.489
Salah. But whatever. Outside of the top six,

01:08:11.550 --> 01:08:16.250
what about Bruno? Leeds won Fulham 0. I didn't

01:08:16.250 --> 01:08:18.409
watch that game. I didn't even watch the highlights.

01:08:19.829 --> 01:08:24.710
Leeds also not going down. Daniel Farker seems

01:08:24.710 --> 01:08:27.590
to have learnt a lesson. You can't attack all

01:08:27.590 --> 01:08:30.329
the time. You cannot attack all the time. His

01:08:30.329 --> 01:08:34.010
Norwich team were naive. Leeds, I'm not basing

01:08:34.010 --> 01:08:36.229
it on this game. I'm basing it on the past couple

01:08:36.229 --> 01:08:38.829
of games that I've seen. They've been much more

01:08:38.829 --> 01:08:41.729
pragmatic. They do know how to attack. They know

01:08:41.729 --> 01:08:43.789
how to inject a bit of chaos into the game when

01:08:43.789 --> 01:08:47.649
it needs to be. They can change the tempo up

01:08:47.649 --> 01:08:50.510
on you like that. They have some good passes.

01:08:50.729 --> 01:08:55.989
They have guys who take on a man. I like Leeds

01:08:55.989 --> 01:08:59.609
a lot. I watched them against Chelsea. They were

01:08:59.609 --> 01:09:02.310
very good. I watched them against us, and they

01:09:02.310 --> 01:09:06.489
were good. And I think they played decently against

01:09:06.489 --> 01:09:09.090
Man City as well, if I remember correctly. So,

01:09:09.109 --> 01:09:12.069
yes. Fulham have been on a very good run, but,

01:09:12.130 --> 01:09:16.970
you know, Leeds were better, I assume. I did

01:09:16.970 --> 01:09:21.350
not watch this, so, yeah. That's all were...

01:09:21.350 --> 01:09:24.010
All those games were on at the same time as the

01:09:24.010 --> 01:09:27.170
Liverpool game, so I couldn't... Analyze them.

01:09:27.310 --> 01:09:29.670
Yeah, I couldn't, like, you know, properly...

01:09:30.380 --> 01:09:33.560
give them the time that they needed sunday rolls

01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:36.979
around and the wolves and newcastle game is on

01:09:36.979 --> 01:09:40.760
and i kind of have this as background uh yeah

01:09:40.760 --> 01:09:43.399
i couldn't watch this game because you had work

01:09:43.399 --> 01:09:47.260
no i was i was at a memorial service so yeah

01:09:47.260 --> 01:09:52.300
oh okay okay okay uh Wolves versus Newcastle,

01:09:52.319 --> 01:09:55.220
very boring game. Very similar pattern to what

01:09:55.220 --> 01:09:57.060
we were speaking about in the earlier games with

01:09:57.060 --> 01:10:01.979
Liverpool, with Arsenal. Newcastle just couldn't

01:10:01.979 --> 01:10:05.239
break Wolves down. And Wolves weren't good enough

01:10:05.239 --> 01:10:10.720
on the counter to score any goals. Do you think

01:10:10.720 --> 01:10:14.279
this is the season where Bruno G finally leaves

01:10:14.279 --> 01:10:24.000
Newcastle? Would you take him? Newcastle aren't

01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:27.579
that team. You know, don't they have bigger ambitions?

01:10:28.880 --> 01:10:32.520
So holding on to Bruno G would be the, like,

01:10:32.579 --> 01:10:34.420
of utmost priority to them, don't you think?

01:10:34.420 --> 01:10:37.020
But he can't force a move. Sure, but I mean,

01:10:37.180 --> 01:10:40.220
I just don't see, he just seems happy there.

01:10:40.279 --> 01:10:43.840
I just don't see him, that's one thing, but where

01:10:43.840 --> 01:10:47.079
would he go? Like, he wouldn't be at City, would

01:10:47.079 --> 01:10:49.239
he? He could play for you guys, that's why I'm

01:10:49.239 --> 01:10:51.300
asking. He definitely doesn't get into Arsenal's

01:10:51.300 --> 01:10:54.939
team. Damn. I'm saying, would you take him over...

01:10:54.939 --> 01:11:02.380
Gravenberg? No. Wouldn't it allow you a more

01:11:02.380 --> 01:11:04.140
creative... But he's more of an eight, right?

01:11:04.520 --> 01:11:06.060
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I would say maybe

01:11:06.060 --> 01:11:11.439
him over McAllister. But... He would just cost

01:11:11.439 --> 01:11:15.460
too much. I would rather get some, like... unknown

01:11:15.460 --> 01:11:20.239
from like i don't know gerona who will come in

01:11:20.239 --> 01:11:24.680
and do a job or i don't know i've missed these

01:11:24.680 --> 01:11:26.699
signings where we would just pluck somebody up

01:11:26.699 --> 01:11:30.380
from some random place uh you buy them they come

01:11:30.380 --> 01:11:33.619
in and they bang like i i never heard of andy

01:11:33.619 --> 01:11:36.300
robertson we played hull twice that season i

01:11:36.300 --> 01:11:39.739
never like never come up and didn't take a note

01:11:39.739 --> 01:11:42.680
of we bought him for eight million and he's top

01:11:42.680 --> 01:11:47.350
player salah You know, he was at Roma, quietly

01:11:47.350 --> 01:11:51.109
does his thing, we buy him, he comes over. Like,

01:11:51.130 --> 01:11:55.090
I miss these types of sightings. Buying Wurz

01:11:55.090 --> 01:12:02.750
416, buying Isaac, it's just not us. But it seems

01:12:02.750 --> 01:12:04.609
like you guys might be going down that road.

01:12:05.050 --> 01:12:08.729
Could be. Anyway, the last game, Aston Villa

01:12:08.729 --> 01:12:11.050
vs Everton. Well, it's not the last game, but

01:12:11.050 --> 01:12:15.020
I'll get to that now. Same pattern. I assume

01:12:15.020 --> 01:12:17.979
you didn't watch this. No, I did watch the last

01:12:17.979 --> 01:12:23.579
10 minutes. But I did see the highlights. Exact

01:12:23.579 --> 01:12:26.479
same pattern as these other games. Everton parked

01:12:26.479 --> 01:12:30.979
the bus. Aston Villa couldn't break them down.

01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:35.680
Tried their best to make it happen. Moyes is

01:12:35.680 --> 01:12:39.729
a very talented... Bus Parker. Low block tactician.

01:12:40.010 --> 01:12:43.670
Yes. One of the best. Moise and Dive. I like

01:12:43.670 --> 01:12:50.609
them both. So, yeah, that's all I can say. The

01:12:50.609 --> 01:12:53.529
last point I want to ask is predictions for the

01:12:53.529 --> 01:12:55.829
Brighton vs. Bournemouth match, which is the

01:12:55.829 --> 01:13:00.470
last game of this game week, but it's actually

01:13:00.470 --> 01:13:02.829
being played two hours from now when we're recording.

01:13:03.659 --> 01:13:05.760
Probably the two most unpredictable teams in

01:13:05.760 --> 01:13:07.520
the league, honestly. I'm not just saying that,

01:13:07.640 --> 01:13:10.579
but they can beat anyone and lose to anyone.

01:13:11.039 --> 01:13:16.300
Yes. Who's at home? Brighton. I think so, yeah.

01:13:17.619 --> 01:13:21.979
Probably, let me say 2 -2. Wow, I was also going

01:13:21.979 --> 01:13:26.699
to say 2 -2. Yeah, it does seem like a 2 -2 game.

01:13:27.119 --> 01:13:30.560
It does, honestly. So, yeah, any other thoughts

01:13:30.560 --> 01:13:32.399
about the football this weekend? Do you have

01:13:32.399 --> 01:13:34.659
any miscellaneous thoughts you want to bring

01:13:34.659 --> 01:13:38.880
up? I mean, just, I thought, obviously, like,

01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:43.920
a player, well, when I saw him play, they lost,

01:13:44.100 --> 01:13:46.439
but he had a very good game in the last 10 minutes.

01:13:46.800 --> 01:13:48.939
I think he's been flying a bit under the radar

01:13:48.939 --> 01:13:52.500
this season, Uri Tielemans. I think he's probably

01:13:52.500 --> 01:13:54.520
been one of the best midfielders in the league,

01:13:54.560 --> 01:13:56.260
but he hasn't been brought into the conversation,

01:13:56.520 --> 01:13:59.539
so... I was just really impressed by him again.

01:14:00.239 --> 01:14:02.560
And I remember Arsenal wanted to sign him in

01:14:02.560 --> 01:14:05.859
the past, so if we revisit that, I feel like

01:14:05.859 --> 01:14:08.180
he's probably the player. He's a little bit old

01:14:08.180 --> 01:14:10.239
now, right? Yeah, but I feel like... He's like

01:14:10.239 --> 01:14:14.340
27, 29? I don't know. I feel like you could still

01:14:14.340 --> 01:14:17.760
sign players of that age and they have a benefit,

01:14:17.880 --> 01:14:26.729
you know. Let's see. He is... 28. He's going

01:14:26.729 --> 01:14:29.970
to be 29 this year. Yeah, I mean, I would take

01:14:29.970 --> 01:14:37.170
him. I don't, like... Would you take a 29 -year

01:14:37.170 --> 01:14:41.689
-old top player in the past? Like, depending

01:14:41.689 --> 01:14:44.649
what they can hit, what they can become. No,

01:14:44.649 --> 01:14:48.090
bro. This is not sensible club management. Like,

01:14:48.090 --> 01:14:49.449
you should be targeting people... But he's not

01:14:49.449 --> 01:14:51.630
going to be expensive, and his wages are not

01:14:51.630 --> 01:14:54.250
high either. You should be targeting 21 to 25.

01:14:55.640 --> 01:14:58.180
play with potential they come in you improve

01:14:58.180 --> 01:15:01.479
them in your team if they get sold you can get

01:15:01.479 --> 01:15:03.359
a good feedback for them no but I don't think

01:15:03.359 --> 01:15:05.560
Arsenal are in that position I think we have

01:15:05.560 --> 01:15:08.159
a lot of players that fall in that category I

01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:11.840
think we need more experience and I don't think

01:15:11.840 --> 01:15:17.180
like at 29 could you tell what Luka Modric was

01:15:17.180 --> 01:15:19.000
gonna become not that I'm putting him in that

01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:22.810
bracket but At 29, could you tell what other

01:15:22.810 --> 01:15:25.050
players... Like, there's many, many names. I

01:15:25.050 --> 01:15:30.609
would argue you can... Not the quality, but you

01:15:30.609 --> 01:15:34.829
can tell who has longevity because of how much

01:15:34.829 --> 01:15:37.909
they rely on their physicality. But, I mean,

01:15:37.970 --> 01:15:40.569
UD Telemans has controlled some big games. I've

01:15:40.569 --> 01:15:42.649
seen his passing range. I don't think that's

01:15:42.649 --> 01:15:45.609
something that can ever evade a player. So, like...

01:15:45.609 --> 01:15:49.729
If he's playing alongside Zubomendia and Rice,

01:15:50.680 --> 01:15:53.420
Yes, if you get two runners and let him dictate

01:15:53.420 --> 01:15:57.520
play, you know, like maybe Pirlo. Yeah, Pirlo,

01:15:57.760 --> 01:16:02.119
I mean, Xavi, played till he was 36. I mean,

01:16:02.119 --> 01:16:04.159
he retired early, but he played consistently

01:16:04.159 --> 01:16:06.479
at a high level. Yeah, because I'm talking about

01:16:06.479 --> 01:16:10.619
things like these guys. Football is played in

01:16:10.619 --> 01:16:14.020
the brain. And, you know, the feet are the instruments.

01:16:14.340 --> 01:16:16.399
But I think Uri Tillmans is one of the most intelligent

01:16:16.399 --> 01:16:18.800
players in the league. Yeah, I'm not disagreeing

01:16:18.800 --> 01:16:21.670
with that. I'm just saying. that's how you can

01:16:21.670 --> 01:16:26.710
tell a player is, uh, you know, going to do it

01:16:26.710 --> 01:16:29.649
for the long term. Yeah. But, uh, anyway, we

01:16:29.649 --> 01:16:34.170
just kind of, uh, yeah. I thought he had a good

01:16:34.170 --> 01:16:36.770
game, even though we lost. Yeah. Any other thoughts

01:16:36.770 --> 01:16:40.270
you want to say before we close up here? Um,

01:16:40.270 --> 01:16:45.770
no, nothing really. Have a good day. Night. All

01:16:45.770 --> 01:16:49.439
right. So, um, thank you for listening. Please

01:16:49.439 --> 01:16:52.159
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01:16:52.220 --> 01:16:54.560
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01:16:59.060 --> 01:17:00.859
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01:17:00.859 --> 01:17:06.100
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01:17:11.979 --> 01:17:12.460
Goodbye.