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Welcome to the Life Bible Church podcast. We

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hope you find today's sermon impacting as you

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listen to it wherever you are in your daily walk.

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see our website at lifebiblechurch .org. Now,

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enjoy this week's message. You know, first service,

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I didn't get to any of my notes, so we kind of

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just... just kind of felt led of the Holy Spirit.

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And we're talking about a series. We're teaching

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a series, kind of we've jumped in. It's called

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Jesus and the Journey to Pentecost. Jesus and

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the Journey to Pentecost. Now, I need you to

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understand the key. phrase of that is the journey.

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And for me, I walk slow, so I'm not saying that

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you think slow, but I'm kind of preaching this.

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I kind of felt like the Lord spoke to me that

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the summer is going to be, what he's asking me

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to teach on is the fundamental process of getting

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the church to move forward. from the very things

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that God established in the Old Testament and

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embracing how Jesus led the church and led the

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building of his church into the understanding

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of now what we would represent the Pentecost

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celebration and moving forward. And if you've

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been with us here for any amount of time in the

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last few weeks or the last five, six weeks, you've

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heard me from our communion messages all the

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way through kind of... diving deep and illustrating

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the point that God does what God can only do

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for us, but that he's very specific about he

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does things that only God can do, but then he

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invites us to do the things to partner with him

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so that we do it together. And that's a key.

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And we started that understanding where we would

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see it in Passover. Passover became that place

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that represents the cross, that represents our

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communion table. It's what? Blood on the doorpost

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of our heart, the lamb slain, the provided sacrifice

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that only God could do. And then what? The unleavened

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bread portion is what? Clean out your house of

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all the leaven. That is the partnership he established

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right from the beginning that we're to operate

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in that same understanding. That God expects

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his people to participate in knowing him. It's

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not just about only the salvific. Your name written

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in the book of life. That is huge and that is

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important. And Jesus is the door to salvation.

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But he's also the door to fellowship. You can

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say amen on that. It's okay. I didn't think we

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were a Baptist congregation. You alright this

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morning? Come on now. Listen, I was raised Mennonite

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where nobody talked back. I'm telling you right

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now, this is not a Mennonite congregation, okay?

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Because you can actually say amen, hallelujah,

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praise the Lord. I saw no one ever lift their

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hands except when they were in a church business

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meeting. And I'm telling you right now, this

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is not a business meeting. This is about honoring

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Jesus, amen? All right, there you go. You're

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getting it a little bit. What we want to look

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at here is as Jesus is, the genius of Jesus is

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this. Not only is he the, he's the son of God.

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Obviously he's the living word of God. He's the

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God man. But the genius is he was able as master

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teacher and preacher to bring some of the most

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simple illustrations and take simple natural

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things and bring us into spiritual understanding.

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And Jesus is revealing the Father's heart to

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give us an understanding of a new framework in

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the things that he's trying to reveal. Now here's

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the first thing. In order to grow in a new grid

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and perspective of processing and motivation

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from the heart of the Father and his love flowing

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from within us, we have to actually be willing

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to take a look at some things that's actually

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in us. What do I mean by that? If I want to get

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the heart of the Father inside of me, then I

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have to actually say what part of my life and

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my heart is not consistent with the Father's

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life and heart. It means I have to be open to

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the inspection of not just the light of Christ,

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but the light of Christ shining in me to see

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where are areas that I have walled off and like

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to be me rather than open to change. Have you

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noticed that there's some people that just love

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change. Now, you know, my wife is one of them

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that if I would have just said, Do whatever you

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want with the house. I don't care if I was just

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one of those husbands. I'm not saying that you're

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that way. But if I was one of those husbands

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that didn't even care, I would be stubbing my

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toe constantly because she would rearrange the

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furniture. I like to know and have paths clear.

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That means I cannot turn on the lights. Why?

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Because saving money. And walking in the dark

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is more important than rearranged furniture.

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So I like familiar things. And so there's part

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of me that says, Jenny, just leave the couches

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where they are. Just leave the coffee table.

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And so I'm kind of a creature of habit. I don't

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like change. She likes change. That's why opposites

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attract. I'm like, it was good. It worked. It

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works now. It'll work forever. But that doesn't

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work in our heart. You might like that in your

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natural world. But in your spiritual world, it

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should never be that way. Meaning that once you

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invite the Holy Spirit in, I've got news for

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you. He's like my wife. Meaning what? He is constantly

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at change. He's constantly moving things, stirring

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things, revealing things. for the point of what?

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Getting me to give more ground to him. Can I

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get an amen? He loves the fact that I've yielded

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myself, but he took me up on that promise a long

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time ago. He's taking you up on that promise

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a long time ago. When you say yes to the Lord,

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you're saying to Jesus, come in and rearrange

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things and make my home your home. Mi casa, you

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casa, change the couch. Move the table. Move

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the furniture. Why? I'm going to bring my presence

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and I'm going to reveal to you where your heart

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is not in alignment with mine. And my job is

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what? My job is to change them. See, I could

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quote the scripture. What does he say? I, the

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Lord, changeth not. You're not the Lord. You

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don't get to say that. Right? So that's usually

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the first lesson in following the Spirit of God

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is that we have to take that honestly. You are

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not God. Thou must change us often. In essence,

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if the Lord changes not, then he does what? He

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expects us to change. And that's the genius of

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Jesus. It's the genius of God hiding things.

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in the Old Testament to show us that he is all

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along wanting a people that would honor him for

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who he is, but then in the midst of honoring

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him for who he is, not just sit back and have

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a distant relationship, but in honoring who he

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is, come close and move into partnership. That's

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the whole point of what God wanted to reveal

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in the Old Testament. And as we get into the

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New Testament, it is a big deal because your

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New Testament understanding is a better covenant.

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In fact, it's the whole book of Hebrews. If you

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could just take one phrase and describe the whole

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book of Hebrews from Hebrews 1 all the way through,

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you would see The theme would be, it's a better

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covenant. In fact, it's right in the middle of

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Hebrews that says, listen, if you were to pay

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attention to the covenant, the old covenant in

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which angels were mediators of the covenant,

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how much more should you now pay attention to

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the new covenant that is now confirmed and ratified

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by the blood of Jesus Christ and by the giving

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of the Holy Spirit? Which means what? You're

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supposed to be in and living in a better covenant,

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which means what? If it's better, it means there's

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more participation. Right? The whole goal of

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moving you out of the old into the new was what?

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No longer is there a separation and middlemen

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in between you and worshiping God. Now that middleman

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is cut out and God wants you to be the one that

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comes in and officiates with him. Well, that's

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a big deal. It's a big deal because if we understand

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what the Lord is wanting from us, we're going

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to have to begin to eliminate things that have

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kept us in an Old Testament mindset. You might

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say for those, especially here in second service,

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where I realize we have both seasoned folks that

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are in the Lord and fairly new folks that are

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in Christ. What do I mean by an Old Testament

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mindset? Well, an Old Testament mindset is this.

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It's not that we shouldn't know what's in the

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Old Testament. Of course, I believe that we should

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know everything that's in the scripture. And

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that's the joy of the journey of getting to know

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the whole Bible and the God who wrote the whole

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Bible. We don't just have a New Testament now.

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We have a whole Bible. But the Old Testament

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becomes the blueprint for which the New Testament

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becomes the building of which we are. And so

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as we go back into the blueprint, we gotta be

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careful that we don't just stay in blueprints

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only. That we actually have to shift and move

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from blueprint to actually building. And building

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means what? Has anybody ever, have you built

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anything where you had to borrow money to build

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it? Anybody ever done that? From houses to land

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or anything? What happens when you do that? When

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you sign on the line, Chris, this is what happened

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for me. Jenny and I, over the years, we had bought

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and sold multiple places, but when we decided

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to build our home where we were believing God,

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planted us and set us. When I signed that paperwork

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on a construction loan, when the house wasn't

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done, because we had sold everything we had,

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we had invested in the land and we'd started

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the building process, but then we needed to go

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get a building loan to finish the rest of it.

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When I signed that building loan document, it

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wasn't something that I had now of a resource

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that I could give. I now had no more resource

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to give. You're in that, and the reason I'm giving

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this analogy is because it fits. When you get

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into the place where you have to actually begin

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to pull on something that you don't have and

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now build with what you don't have in your resources

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and build, with borrowed finances, all of a sudden,

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every area of weakness, every area of fear, every

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area of timeline, you realize you better get

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this done and you've never been that way before.

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That doesn't stop you from building. Fact is,

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it's supposed to actually put a little fire under

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you and say, come on, Huckleberry, you can't

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relax like you were building before when you

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had the resources. Now you had to borrow resources

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because you're on borrowed time. There are payments

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coming due. You better get building. If there's

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anything I could convey to you this morning is

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that's what, not that God is saying you owe me,

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of course not, but you are now in a moment where

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you're actually, what has been provided from

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you from God by the Holy Spirit is meant to come

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into your life so that you can do what? You can

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begin to build. You don't have the luxury anymore

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in the New Testament saying, well, I just gotta

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wait and see what God's going to do. You actually

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have some mandates that you're called not to

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wait. The upper room, folks, that was 2 ,000

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years ago. If you're still waiting in the upper

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room, it's time to build. Why? Because he brought

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something of a tool and an agency for you to

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begin to operate with the borrowed supply of

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heaven. Why? Because he's got a work and a commission

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to do. Are you there? Now, listen, as we go through

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this journey, like I said, Jesus and the journey

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from Passover to Pentecost, I want to try to

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give you some things along the way. As we look

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what Jesus did with his disciples as he fulfilled

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scriptures all along the way in his ministry

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in the three and a half years, Jesus did not

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just talk about the Father. But he talked about

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the Holy Spirit as much as he talked about the

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Father. And here's what we find out. Here's what

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we find. We find that in this area, and if I

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can just, I'm gonna speak very frank to you this

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morning. I'm gonna draw some things out of my

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own life. I felt like the Lord really highlighted

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this. Let me just start with my journey. When

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we started this church, When the Lord asked us

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to pioneer this church 25 plus years ago, we'll

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celebrate 25 years this September, but we got

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sent out in July. And so actually this weekend

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was literally 25 years ago was the weekend we

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got sent out in 2001 to pioneer church. I had

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lots of things on my mind that I wanted to do.

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And prior to this weekend, 25 years ago, In about

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two months prior to that, the Lord had spoken

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to me that he was gonna send us out and that

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he was gonna open doors for us, but he didn't

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tell me where. So man, I had served the church

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I was at, been involved in it for 18 years. I'd

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been on staff for eight years, met my wife there,

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many families. I just knew God. I can come up

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with some places. Here's some cities and here's

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some states that I'd like to go. If you're sending

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me, and I'll tell you what, Harrisburg was not

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on the list. Okay, just so you know, because

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I was born and raised here. I mean, my great,

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great grandfather was the first. pioneering bishop

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that came down from Sheridan, Oregon to pioneer

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the Harrisburg Mennonite Church. And my great,

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great grandfather, that was on my grandmother's

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side. My great, great grandfather on my grandfather's

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side was the first deacon. And my dad lives on

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his original homestead of that church. I, five

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plus generations of conservative Mennonite raised

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farm kids. And I thought, oh God, no. I, I, I,

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I moved seven years away. We were not seven years

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away. That'd be a long journey. I, for seven

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years, we had moved from Harrisburg to Springfield.

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We were pastoring after we got married the first

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year we lived in Harrisburg. And then we, then

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we bought a little home in Springfield. And I,

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I just, I didn't even think about Harrisburg

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when I wrote. cities down. I know, of course,

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Bend, Oregon came up. And then that was about

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the only place, Bend and Sisters, Oregon, that

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was the only two places I was thinking about

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going. The rest of them were in other states.

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I wanted either Rapid City, South Dakota, or

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Sioux Falls, South Dakota, because I'd gone pheasant

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hunting and whitetail hunting. And I loved the

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hunting there. There were Army, there were Air

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Force bases near there. They had incredible Did

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I say hunting? Had incredible hunting. And I

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just thought, man, this is the best place. And

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the Black Hills still have gold. I mean, hey,

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maybe I'll become a gold miner. I don't know.

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I just thought, you know, this is the place to

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go. Send me to South Dakota. There's no charismatic

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churches. There's no Pentecostal churches. We

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can just simply talk about the Holy Spirit. God,

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you could do an amazing thing among the land

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of Methodists and Lutherans. And I'll never forget

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it. About six weeks before we'd have a send -off

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service, the Lord spoke to me and said, I'm gonna

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cause you to inherit the prayers of your forefathers.

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And I remember that phrase. I said, Lord, I think

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I know what you're saying here, but you're saying

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you're sending me local. I heard it again. I'm

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gonna cause you to inherit the prayers of your

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forefathers. It was the first time That I had

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really connected the understanding, even though

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we had read it in scriptures, that all prayers

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ascend to heaven and God oversees it, right?

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We understand that the Bible says in other places

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that the word of the Lord endures forever. If

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it's God spoken or if it's God generated, it

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endures forever because it's connected to him.

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But prayers, the Bible talks about the bowls

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of prayers that are collected with the saints

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in heaven. And I hadn't actually thought this

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through that when those prayers are not answered,

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they're still alive and they're still waiting

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for God to send the answer. And so when the Lord

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spoke to me, he says, I'm going to send you to

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inherit the prayers of your forefathers. Something

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in me got really irritated and something got

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really happy at the same time. Not that I'm,

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at least I don't think I am, schizophrenic. No,

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you are. Yes, I am. No, no. I mean, the reality

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is inside of me, the Spirit of God knew that

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what he was doing was going to birth something

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that had always been before his throne for a

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hundred years, and he was going to send a person

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that would contend for prayers that had been

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prayed. But the soul part of me is, Lord, I don't

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want to go back there. And I'll tell you why

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I didn't want to go back there. Because the environment

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in which I was raised in, even though I love

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many things that I was raised with, the environment

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was an environment of fear. Meaning, I had greater

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familiarity with limitation and fear on who God

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was than actually walking in faith and liberty

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in who God was. Because everything in my world,

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everything from my parents, my grandparents,

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every, listen, when I grew up, this is no joke,

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within a 12 -mile radius, I was related to 400

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people. I went to a first through eighth grade

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schoolhouse. There were 45 kids. I was related

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to 38 of them. First through eighth grade. That

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is no joke. There was no lockers on the door.

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We all had cubbies. I didn't even know that people

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stole from one another. My upbringing was little

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house on the prairie, squared. The reality is

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I went to a church, wonderful people. It was

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400 people that time in Lebanon, Albany area.

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I didn't even know that divorce existed. I had

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never seen it, never heard of it. So I had a

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wonderful farm, conservative, that where we learned

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about God the Father, we learned about God the

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Son, but we had no idea who the Holy Spirit was.

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So it was Father, Son, and the Bible. Because

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the reality was replacement, how can I say this,

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instead of pursuing the Holy Spirit as co -equal,

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even though we would say that we believed that

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the Holy Spirit was co -equal, we would not treat

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him as co -equal. And therefore, everything in

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my world was bound by fear. You say, well, how

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does that happen? Because when you're living

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in an Old Testament understanding, you're living

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automatically under a covenant of limitation.

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Let me say that again. You'll know you're living

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in Old Testament understanding. When even in

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the New Testament, you limit God, you limit his

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word, and you're okay with it because you don't

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want partnership at that level. So for me, being

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a young boy, being raised as a farmer's son and

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the only boy in the family, at least for our

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immediate farm, the reality is what became normal.

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We talked about God. We talked about the need

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for salvation. My dad probably talked to me more

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about the rapture in those days. I had a little

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bitty New Testament in case the Russians invaded

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that I could at least sneak in. How many were

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born in the times where you tested for nuclear

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drills at school and you knew that the Russians

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were coming in the 80s that they were gonna invade

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through nukes? I mean, that was just, if you

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didn't live through that time, you don't even

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know what I'm talking about. But if you lived

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through that, everything, fact is, when my mom

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and dad would go ferry machinery, my sister and

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I would be at home. They'd say, oh, don't bother,

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the kids will be right back. We're just going

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down to one field, bring some machinery back.

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All of a sudden, my sister and I would look around

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and nobody was there. We'd run through the house,

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run out to the barn, call for mom and dad, go

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back to the middle of the living room, get down

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on our knees and repent, say, God, send the rapture

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again. I mean, it was just drilled into us that

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if we were left alone, it was going to be hell

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to pay, right? Now, I'm not negating the catching

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away of God's people. I'm just telling you, we

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talked a lot about Christian ideals, but everything

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was drenched in fear. Fear of how I would respond

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to God. Fear of how God would see me. And here's,

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if you've been raised in that kind of, in conservative,

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doesn't have to be Mennonite, but whether it's

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Nazarene or whether it's Baptist or whether it's,

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depending on the nature of, there's sliding scales

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of all denominations. Whatever it was, I realized

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for me, when I look back on my life, here was

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the number one thing that was passed on to me.

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It was fear. Fear of the future. Fear of failure.

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Fear of, this is the big one, fear of being deceived.

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Fear of not doing it right. Fear of not being

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humiliated. And fear of looking foolish in the

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eyes of others. Every part of my psyche was imparted

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with fear. Now, I look back now and I go, man,

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I lived a pretty miserable existence. But that's

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all I knew because everyone around me had the

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very same thing. You didn't branch out into new

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things. You only became good and perfectionist

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at what you already knew that could be proven.

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Are you there? That is the fruit of religion.

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It is the fruit of recognizing that I've actually

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been bound to a covenant that does not want me

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to move into new realms of faith on the basis

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of what? I might do something wrong. I might

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actually be deceived. I might, instead of a platform

00:26:04.220 --> 00:26:07.619
of love, that if I am deceived, there's correction.

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I expect correction and it's loving. It's not

00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:15.160
about if you make a mistake, you're out of here.

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It's like an umpire calling balls and strikes.

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But the reality was whether that was meant to

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be, that's exactly what God imparted. In the

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culture that I lived in. And for 18 years. The

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thing that dominated my life. And it took me

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a lot longer than 18 years. But for 18 years.

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The thing that dominated my life. Was a healthy

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love for the father. A love for Jesus. But there

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was no example. And there was no understanding.

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Of how to do this thing. Of partnership in faith.

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Faith became a salvation issue and then doing

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right. That's what faith came. Did I do it right

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or did I do it wrong? That was the judge. And

00:27:03.789 --> 00:27:10.309
so every place I went, I was fearful. Now my

00:27:10.309 --> 00:27:13.470
folks, I didn't realize that my folks early on

00:27:13.470 --> 00:27:16.650
in their life, my dad had, this is kind of give

00:27:16.650 --> 00:27:19.099
you how rebellious my dad was. I talked. first

00:27:19.099 --> 00:27:21.420
service he was here. So I was telling stories

00:27:21.420 --> 00:27:24.339
on him in public in front of his face. So if

00:27:24.339 --> 00:27:25.640
you're saying, why are you telling stories? Because

00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:29.019
I told it right to his face right here. And my

00:27:29.019 --> 00:27:33.539
dad was a rebellious young little Mennonite.

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And in his day, he dated a gal that was assembly

00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:45.420
of God. We're talking weasel in the hen house.

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Okay. And they went to a meeting while he was

00:27:50.480 --> 00:27:55.140
still dating and he got filled with the Holy

00:27:55.140 --> 00:27:58.920
Spirit. She got filled with the Holy Spirit.

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They both started speaking in tongues. Now let

00:28:02.299 --> 00:28:07.180
me tell you how this works. I never heard that

00:28:07.180 --> 00:28:13.039
as a kid. I didn't know they were filled. I didn't

00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:15.859
know they had a spiritual gifts. I didn't know

00:28:15.859 --> 00:28:19.140
that they had tasted something that was beyond

00:28:19.140 --> 00:28:22.480
what I was raised in. Because here was the culture.

00:28:22.700 --> 00:28:27.279
The culture was, you kept that private. It was

00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:29.619
so kept private that it wasn't even told to the

00:28:29.619 --> 00:28:33.559
family. My sister and I had no understanding,

00:28:34.180 --> 00:28:40.619
no model. So that when I was raised, anything

00:28:40.619 --> 00:28:44.559
that looked beyond just the expression, Now,

00:28:44.980 --> 00:28:48.480
hear me on this. Beyond the expression of singing

00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:56.859
hymns without music to a pitch pipe. And we sang

00:28:56.859 --> 00:29:00.859
that way. Any form of raise your hand, any form

00:29:00.859 --> 00:29:06.039
of hallelujah or amen was frowned on. Why? Because

00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:11.160
that in the culture was considered disrespectful

00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:17.390
to God. So what covenant were we actually in?

00:29:18.670 --> 00:29:23.089
We lived in a hybrid. We lived in an understanding

00:29:23.089 --> 00:29:28.089
of Jesus was and is the son of God and died for

00:29:28.089 --> 00:29:32.029
our salvation. And by grace and faith, we can

00:29:32.029 --> 00:29:35.630
be saved. For all intents and purposes, that's

00:29:35.630 --> 00:29:38.930
where we stayed. And we didn't move on from there

00:29:38.930 --> 00:29:42.170
because to move on from there and to actually

00:29:42.170 --> 00:29:47.029
treat the Holy Spirit as co -equal as God and

00:29:47.029 --> 00:29:53.829
with God would mean I'd have to change. So what

00:29:53.829 --> 00:29:57.049
do we do? We accept the new covenant of Jesus'

00:29:57.250 --> 00:30:01.730
grace and we go back to that which is familiar

00:30:01.730 --> 00:30:07.289
and religious and limited. That doesn't mean

00:30:07.289 --> 00:30:09.930
that people didn't love Jesus. It doesn't mean

00:30:09.930 --> 00:30:11.569
that their name wasn't written in the Lamb's

00:30:11.569 --> 00:30:15.390
book of life. But it meant that they can progress

00:30:15.390 --> 00:30:21.450
no further because they refused to actually break

00:30:21.450 --> 00:30:25.509
the spirit of fear and move in partnership with

00:30:25.509 --> 00:30:28.670
the kingdom of God. Now that spirit of fear,

00:30:28.809 --> 00:30:33.269
you guys okay? That spirit of fear followed me

00:30:33.269 --> 00:30:37.789
all the way through to this church plant. All

00:30:37.789 --> 00:30:40.710
the way through. And I remember when God said,

00:30:40.809 --> 00:30:42.750
he said, I'm going to cause you to inherit the

00:30:42.750 --> 00:30:46.250
prayers of your forefathers. I knew what he was

00:30:46.250 --> 00:30:48.529
saying. And then he quoted in my spirit, I heard

00:30:48.529 --> 00:30:50.910
it as clear as he was standing in front of me

00:30:50.910 --> 00:30:53.210
talking to me. He said, and he quoted Joshua.

00:30:54.160 --> 00:30:56.759
Chapter one, verses six and following. He said,

00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:59.900
from this river to Lebanon, all the way to the

00:30:59.900 --> 00:31:02.759
great sea shall be your territory and no man

00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:04.920
shall stand against you. Now I knew he wasn't

00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:08.099
calling me Joshua. I knew that that was written

00:31:08.099 --> 00:31:11.059
for Joshua, but spiritually, where was the territory

00:31:11.059 --> 00:31:14.299
that I grew up? From the McKenzie River, Eugene,

00:31:14.579 --> 00:31:18.119
to Lebanon, to Albany, all the way to the coast,

00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:20.740
that was my territory. That's why this is called

00:31:20.740 --> 00:31:23.500
the Tri -County Church. Three counties where

00:31:23.500 --> 00:31:26.440
the river converges right here. Lynn, Lane, and

00:31:26.440 --> 00:31:28.960
Benton County. That he would call me to that

00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:31.720
area to do what? You know why I didn't want to

00:31:31.720 --> 00:31:37.000
go there? Fear. Because I had experienced something

00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:42.859
17 years in a conservative environment. 18 years

00:31:42.859 --> 00:31:48.079
now in a more free environment that was pursuing

00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:51.079
the Holy Spirit. And the thought of coming back

00:31:51.079 --> 00:31:54.759
to this area dredged up everything inside of

00:31:54.759 --> 00:31:58.400
me that was once there. And as soon as the Lord

00:31:58.400 --> 00:32:01.940
spoke that to me, I began to say to him, Lord,

00:32:02.019 --> 00:32:05.180
I don't want to go there. And I remember saying

00:32:05.180 --> 00:32:07.380
this, and I look back now and go, what a selfish

00:32:07.380 --> 00:32:11.019
prayer. But I remember saying, God, send me some

00:32:11.019 --> 00:32:13.500
place where people are nice and they like me.

00:32:15.220 --> 00:32:18.819
And it wasn't the fact that they didn't like

00:32:18.819 --> 00:32:23.180
me as a person. They didn't like what was on

00:32:23.180 --> 00:32:30.160
me and what I was bringing in his name. And the

00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:31.680
Lord said, where did I tell you you're going?

00:32:32.799 --> 00:32:35.460
So there's no negotiation on this. No, there's

00:32:35.460 --> 00:32:39.180
no negotiation. I'm sending you back to the place

00:32:39.180 --> 00:32:41.920
that you were designed to be. And that's why

00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:46.420
we're here 25 years later. The fear of the people's

00:32:46.420 --> 00:32:49.599
faces, the fear of knowing the resistance, the

00:32:49.599 --> 00:32:52.940
fear of knowing the religion, the fear of the

00:32:52.940 --> 00:32:56.920
idea that they're more concerned about being

00:32:56.920 --> 00:32:59.920
deceived than they are about loving God and operating

00:32:59.920 --> 00:33:04.640
in faith. Why? Because I lived it. When you think

00:33:04.640 --> 00:33:07.200
about the atmosphere in this area, you think

00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:09.819
about Lynn Lane and Benton County. You think

00:33:09.819 --> 00:33:12.539
about every conservative denomination, and I'm

00:33:12.539 --> 00:33:14.480
telling you there's a lot of them. What is the

00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:17.880
number one thing that they hold to? We'll believe

00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:20.500
in Jesus, we'll believe in the cross, and we'll

00:33:20.500 --> 00:33:22.519
believe in the resurrection. From that point

00:33:22.519 --> 00:33:28.000
on, we don't need anything else. And I'm here

00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:33.099
to tell you that that's not Bible. Never written

00:33:33.099 --> 00:33:36.509
that way. The only way you can come up with that

00:33:36.509 --> 00:33:38.950
conclusion is you have to choose to have a hybrid

00:33:38.950 --> 00:33:41.730
Old Testament and New Testament model yourself.

00:33:42.890 --> 00:33:46.190
But if you truly want to actually follow Jesus

00:33:46.190 --> 00:33:49.109
in what he's building. I'm not talking about

00:33:49.109 --> 00:33:51.329
your salvation now because that salvation is

00:33:51.329 --> 00:33:54.430
of grace and who he is and he writes your name

00:33:54.430 --> 00:33:56.650
in and your name is written. But if you wanna

00:33:56.650 --> 00:33:59.630
actually partner and become a mature son and

00:33:59.630 --> 00:34:03.170
daughter and actually walk in the faith of discipleship,

00:34:03.250 --> 00:34:05.670
you're going to have to come to a conclusion

00:34:05.670 --> 00:34:11.590
that the Holy Spirit is God, he's good, he has

00:34:11.590 --> 00:34:14.769
no negativity in him and anything that's from

00:34:14.769 --> 00:34:18.579
him is good and is God. And therefore, if it's

00:34:18.579 --> 00:34:22.440
from him, you should want him. You should not

00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:24.460
just look at it and say, well, I only want the

00:34:24.460 --> 00:34:27.559
part where you convict of sin and just give me

00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:30.099
the seal of salvation. That's it, Holy Spirit.

00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:36.059
Well, see, that's an untenable position. When

00:34:36.059 --> 00:34:38.579
you honestly look at the scriptures, that's untenable.

00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:42.139
Why is it? Because I'm actually, as a man or

00:34:42.139 --> 00:34:46.000
a woman, I'm not confused, but whatever you are,

00:34:46.039 --> 00:34:48.900
whether you're a woman or a man, the reality

00:34:48.900 --> 00:34:56.400
is you have to decide, okay, am I going to tell

00:34:56.400 --> 00:35:05.260
God that I don't need him in these areas? How

00:35:05.260 --> 00:35:11.079
arrogant. We don't see it. Why? Because we're

00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:13.860
fearful. Fearful we might get deceived. Fearful

00:35:13.860 --> 00:35:16.639
we might look foolish. Fearful we might do something

00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:21.860
wrong. Fearful that we will make a mistake. And

00:35:21.860 --> 00:35:24.559
fearful that we don't know what we're doing.

00:35:25.179 --> 00:35:29.659
And so we fall back on the familiar as I just

00:35:29.659 --> 00:35:32.559
want to do what I know and then I'll become,

00:35:32.780 --> 00:35:35.699
I'll just practice that and I'll get good in

00:35:35.699 --> 00:35:38.900
that. Not realizing that that mindset actually

00:35:38.900 --> 00:35:42.400
disintegrates and brings you back under the law

00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:48.219
even more. Are you doing okay? Now why did I

00:35:48.219 --> 00:35:52.320
tell you to turn to Matthew? No. Here we go.

00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:54.900
Before I get there, I want to give you one other

00:35:54.900 --> 00:35:58.420
verse. Luke 11, verse 1. Now it came to pass

00:35:58.420 --> 00:36:01.360
that as the Lord was praying in a certain place,

00:36:01.559 --> 00:36:04.539
when Jesus ceased, that one of his disciples

00:36:04.539 --> 00:36:08.980
said to him, Lord, teach us to pray as John taught

00:36:08.980 --> 00:36:15.559
his disciples. Matthew 6, again, is another version

00:36:15.559 --> 00:36:18.679
of this. Luke included part of it. Matthew is

00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:21.260
teaching a little bit more. Listen to how Matthew

00:36:21.260 --> 00:36:27.619
said it. Now, just a couple of important thoughts.

00:36:27.940 --> 00:36:31.780
You need to understand that Luke is writing as

00:36:31.780 --> 00:36:35.659
a Gentile writer. Matthew is writing as a Jewish

00:36:35.659 --> 00:36:38.760
writer. So when you read the gospel of Luke,

00:36:38.940 --> 00:36:42.920
you're looking at the gospel of Luke as one that

00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:46.940
was a learned medical doctor of that time and

00:36:46.940 --> 00:36:50.880
he got saved as a Gentile and he's writing this

00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:55.849
as a Gentile. the perspective of where he received

00:36:55.849 --> 00:36:58.730
it from the apostles, probably writing, and you'll

00:36:58.730 --> 00:37:03.010
see it in this, to Theophilus. Now, when you

00:37:03.010 --> 00:37:05.949
look at Matthew, Matthew includes the biblical

00:37:05.949 --> 00:37:10.210
genealogy, and he's writing from a Jewish perspective

00:37:10.210 --> 00:37:14.150
only. So you begin to see two different in the

00:37:14.150 --> 00:37:17.869
gospels of the writers. You got John, Mark, Luke,

00:37:18.070 --> 00:37:20.730
and Matthew. Listen to what Matthew says in Matthew

00:37:20.730 --> 00:37:24.679
6, 5. Jesus saying, and when you pray, and I'm

00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:26.480
starting a little bit before the Lord's prayer,

00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:30.739
Jesus was actually commenting on the Sermon on

00:37:30.739 --> 00:37:34.199
the Mount and listen to the phraseology. And

00:37:34.199 --> 00:37:39.559
when you pray, you shall not, you shall what?

00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:42.820
You shall, it's okay, we're speaking in church.

00:37:42.860 --> 00:37:44.440
We're breaking that law of the Old Testament.

00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:46.820
Here we go. And when you pray, you shall what?

00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:51.829
Be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray

00:37:51.829 --> 00:37:54.929
standing in synagogues and on the corners of

00:37:54.929 --> 00:37:59.690
the street that they may be seen by men. Assuredly,

00:37:59.690 --> 00:38:06.230
I say to you, they have their reward. Now, I

00:38:06.230 --> 00:38:10.130
don't want to just spend the rest of the time

00:38:10.130 --> 00:38:12.010
teaching this verse, but you need to understand

00:38:12.010 --> 00:38:17.420
that what was in their heart of being seen and

00:38:17.420 --> 00:38:21.500
recognized was their reward of prayer. Answered

00:38:21.500 --> 00:38:26.880
prayer was not. So please make that distinction.

00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:30.519
Answered prayer from the Father was not. The

00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:35.559
reward was what? They got to be seen as those

00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:40.539
who were spiritual and they built their own platform

00:38:40.539 --> 00:38:43.400
so that they would be elevated in the eyes of

00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:48.219
men and women. So he says, be careful not to

00:38:48.219 --> 00:38:52.500
be like them. Verse six, but when you pray, go

00:38:52.500 --> 00:38:54.679
into your room and shut the door, pray to your

00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:57.260
father who is in secret and your father who sees

00:38:57.260 --> 00:39:00.440
in secret will reward you openly. Which, how

00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:03.099
does he reward you? He rewards you with answered

00:39:03.099 --> 00:39:07.980
prayer. Verse seven, and when you pray, now notice

00:39:07.980 --> 00:39:12.059
here, one side he's talking of the ditch that

00:39:12.059 --> 00:39:14.579
goes to the religious side. Now he's gonna talk

00:39:14.579 --> 00:39:17.320
about the, ditch on the other side of religion.

00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:23.940
He said, and when you pray, do not use vain repetitions

00:39:23.940 --> 00:39:27.380
as the heathen do. For they think that they will

00:39:27.380 --> 00:39:32.000
be heard by their many words. Therefore, do not

00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:36.400
be like them. For your father knows the things

00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:40.460
you have need of before you ask them. So notice

00:39:40.460 --> 00:39:44.630
the two divisions. You have a religious side

00:39:44.630 --> 00:39:50.170
that actually turns a heart hypocritical. Why?

00:39:50.469 --> 00:39:54.170
Because you can't, if you give yourself to where

00:39:54.170 --> 00:39:57.289
religion goes, you end up becoming a hypocrite

00:39:57.289 --> 00:40:00.170
because what you say you believe you will not

00:40:00.170 --> 00:40:05.090
do. Isn't that the nature of hypocrisy? That

00:40:05.090 --> 00:40:07.289
you declare that you know something, but yet

00:40:07.289 --> 00:40:10.289
there's no obedience to actually bring yourself

00:40:10.289 --> 00:40:13.309
to live it. Why? For whatever reason, whether

00:40:13.309 --> 00:40:15.809
it's fear, whether it's justification, whether

00:40:15.809 --> 00:40:17.869
you feel like you've already arrived and you

00:40:17.869 --> 00:40:20.050
don't need to do some of those things. It does

00:40:20.050 --> 00:40:23.590
what? It always brings the elevation of self.

00:40:23.909 --> 00:40:30.130
Religion will always elevate self. Are you there?

00:40:31.369 --> 00:40:34.840
Now, and then he says the heathen. Well, that's

00:40:34.840 --> 00:40:40.539
quite a word. What does he then mean? It means

00:40:40.539 --> 00:40:45.420
someone that has no real knowledge about the

00:40:45.420 --> 00:40:49.219
one true living God. Doesn't mean they don't

00:40:49.219 --> 00:40:52.500
have knowledge, but they're using, are you ready?

00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:56.969
They're using knowledge about. other gods or

00:40:56.969 --> 00:41:01.030
deities that they quote serve, trying to bring

00:41:01.030 --> 00:41:03.769
that in of their framework of that lifestyle

00:41:03.769 --> 00:41:07.050
into how that should work in actually serving

00:41:07.050 --> 00:41:10.829
God. What they were born into, their culture,

00:41:10.929 --> 00:41:13.630
their religion, they'll take that and now just

00:41:13.630 --> 00:41:18.050
assume or that that's how God will answer them.

00:41:18.250 --> 00:41:23.389
And God says, I say no to both. I say no to hypocrisy.

00:41:23.900 --> 00:41:28.199
And I say no to your own understanding of trying

00:41:28.199 --> 00:41:31.260
to use your understanding on how to reach me.

00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:38.239
Then he says this, but you need to understand

00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:43.219
the heathen don't know who I am. I would say

00:41:43.219 --> 00:41:47.400
the religious don't either. In saying this, they

00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:50.099
don't know who he is. And we're going to prove

00:41:50.099 --> 00:41:52.820
this out in the weeks to come. But listen to

00:41:52.820 --> 00:41:56.139
what he says. In this manner, when therefore

00:41:56.139 --> 00:41:59.239
you pray, and notice what he's saying. Your father

00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:03.059
knows the things you have need of before you

00:42:03.059 --> 00:42:06.480
ask. Are you ready for this? It means that God

00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:11.440
in his knowledge knows everything you need, but

00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:13.920
he's expecting what? Remember, this is the difference

00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:17.159
between Old Testament understanding and New Testament

00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:20.260
understanding that Jesus comes to bring. the

00:42:20.260 --> 00:42:22.280
people into because he's leading them to move

00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:26.679
into a new covenant. We don't just pray to a

00:42:26.679 --> 00:42:30.179
God and then believe that there's nothing that

00:42:30.179 --> 00:42:35.360
happens. The God that Jesus is going to introduce

00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:38.920
us to is a God who knows every aspect of our

00:42:38.920 --> 00:42:42.059
life, but he's now opened the platform for participation.

00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:47.469
And therefore he establishes the framework. that

00:42:47.469 --> 00:42:51.150
even in your communication practice and in the

00:42:51.150 --> 00:42:54.070
process of actually in spending time with him,

00:42:54.090 --> 00:42:55.829
it's not that you literally have to go inside

00:42:55.829 --> 00:42:59.389
a closet, get underneath your wardrobe, and pray

00:42:59.389 --> 00:43:01.449
and sing. No, that was a metaphorical term. It

00:43:01.449 --> 00:43:03.150
means you go into a place where you can just

00:43:03.150 --> 00:43:06.449
be yourself before the Father, and it's just

00:43:06.449 --> 00:43:10.650
you and him. You go into a place where that time

00:43:10.650 --> 00:43:14.389
is your time with him. And he was saying, I...

00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:18.260
have a nature that I want to engage you. I know

00:43:18.260 --> 00:43:20.679
everything you need, but I'm waiting for you

00:43:20.679 --> 00:43:24.860
to bring me into your life. And I want to partner

00:43:24.860 --> 00:43:27.179
with you. That is new Testament understanding.

00:43:27.460 --> 00:43:30.920
So notice what Jesus says here. Our father, here's

00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:33.219
how he teaches the disciples to pray. Our father

00:43:33.219 --> 00:43:35.840
in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom

00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:38.980
come, your will be done as it is in heaven. So

00:43:38.980 --> 00:43:41.539
first thing we, first thing that Jesus establishes

00:43:41.539 --> 00:43:45.119
is what? Everything that he is, Everything that

00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:48.239
is of his will. Everything that he has released

00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:51.619
about himself. His rule. His ways. His word.

00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.980
We should be praying. Embrace it. Embrace it.

00:43:56.019 --> 00:43:59.059
Embrace it. Let it come. Let it come. Let it

00:43:59.059 --> 00:44:02.519
come. Which means by nature. I will do. I will

00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:07.760
do. I will do. You can't say. This is what a

00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:10.820
hypocrite does. Your kingdom come. Your will

00:44:10.820 --> 00:44:19.079
be done. Let somebody else do it. That by nature

00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:24.840
is a hypocrite. You can't say I believe God that

00:44:24.840 --> 00:44:28.699
he's Father, Son, Holy Spirit. He's one God in

00:44:28.699 --> 00:44:33.380
the unity of the mind of God and yet there are

00:44:33.380 --> 00:44:36.239
three distinct persons of plurality. You can't

00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:39.719
say there's a Father, there's a Son, and a Junior.

00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:48.480
You have to say Father, Son, Holy Spirit. And

00:44:48.480 --> 00:44:51.739
the problem is most of us have grown up in areas

00:44:51.739 --> 00:44:55.340
and we listen to sermons that are father, son,

00:44:55.659 --> 00:45:00.039
and junior. And take or leave junior. We'll only

00:45:00.039 --> 00:45:03.519
receive junior as the one who brings salvation

00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:05.880
to our heart. But we don't have to partner with

00:45:05.880 --> 00:45:08.559
junior because somewhere we've interpreted the

00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:12.059
scripture. Not a verse. Not a passage. It's not

00:45:12.059 --> 00:45:15.219
there. But somebody has convinced us that now

00:45:16.019 --> 00:45:19.300
Junior Holy Spirit doesn't give gifts like he

00:45:19.300 --> 00:45:25.420
used to 100 years after the apostles died, senior

00:45:25.420 --> 00:45:31.659
became junior. What kind of spiritual crack is

00:45:31.659 --> 00:45:36.619
that? That, I'm gonna just be honest with you.

00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:40.739
The thing that we fight, that I fight in the

00:45:40.739 --> 00:45:44.929
spirit of the atmosphere of this region, Other

00:45:44.929 --> 00:45:48.949
regions like it where I'm asked to go and bring

00:45:48.949 --> 00:45:52.769
a message like what I'm preaching today. The

00:45:52.769 --> 00:45:56.250
number one thing I believe is this mindset of

00:45:56.250 --> 00:46:01.550
the division of the Holy Spirit. I understand

00:46:01.550 --> 00:46:11.389
it. I lived in it. Every person around me bought

00:46:11.389 --> 00:46:15.309
it, reinforced it. But when I started reading

00:46:15.309 --> 00:46:21.150
the Bible again and afresh and a hunger, I could

00:46:21.150 --> 00:46:26.389
not see anywhere. And folks, I've read the Bible

00:46:26.389 --> 00:46:30.949
a lot. I'm not here to brag how much I've read

00:46:30.949 --> 00:46:32.889
the Bible, but I'm telling you some of the very

00:46:32.889 --> 00:46:35.349
first words over my life from prophets were,

00:46:35.449 --> 00:46:38.369
you're going to read the Bible. Four and five

00:46:38.369 --> 00:46:41.230
times a year, you'll be known as a man who knows

00:46:41.230 --> 00:46:43.150
the word of God. You'll have read this Bible

00:46:43.150 --> 00:46:46.389
over a hundred times, cover to cover. And I have

00:46:46.389 --> 00:46:49.489
believed that word of God. I love it. I read

00:46:49.489 --> 00:46:53.670
it. I listen to it. I allow it to saturate me.

00:46:53.670 --> 00:46:56.289
Why? Because there's nothing like God's word.

00:46:57.369 --> 00:47:01.010
And once you begin to embrace God's word without

00:47:01.010 --> 00:47:04.269
all of the presets of the religion, you will

00:47:04.269 --> 00:47:08.079
find that Holy Spirit is never diminished. In

00:47:08.079 --> 00:47:13.340
fact, God and the Son elevate the Holy Spirit's

00:47:13.340 --> 00:47:18.139
ministry beyond. They all point to him. Why?

00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:25.820
Because they sent him. Man. So listen to what

00:47:25.820 --> 00:47:29.940
it says. Your kingdom come. Your will be done.

00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:33.239
On earth as it is in heaven. Now notice what.

00:47:33.559 --> 00:47:36.920
he teaches them to do. This was different than

00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:39.840
the heathen. This was different than the hypocrite.

00:47:40.280 --> 00:47:46.820
Give us this day our daily bread. So what is

00:47:46.820 --> 00:47:49.820
the first thing? Let your kingdom come. Let your

00:47:49.820 --> 00:47:52.699
will be done. Meaning what? I'm not, I'm going

00:47:52.699 --> 00:47:57.840
to whatever is yours, whoever you are and the

00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:00.199
fullness of how I know you and from the scriptures,

00:48:00.380 --> 00:48:04.530
let it come because that is the highest revelation.

00:48:04.769 --> 00:48:07.469
There's nothing higher, greater, grander. And

00:48:07.469 --> 00:48:14.550
then the next thing, Father, give. The very first

00:48:14.550 --> 00:48:17.289
thing that Jesus teaches as we embrace his will,

00:48:17.429 --> 00:48:23.250
his kingdom, is that he's a giver. His nature.

00:48:23.429 --> 00:48:25.630
Now when we think giver, many times we think

00:48:25.630 --> 00:48:30.010
finances. That's not what he asked. Now we get

00:48:30.010 --> 00:48:33.460
to this. But his first thing that he's wanting

00:48:33.460 --> 00:48:37.639
us to actually ask for is give us daily bread.

00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:42.219
Many of us would think that just means provision.

00:48:42.320 --> 00:48:45.960
That means money for bills and that can fit in

00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:49.420
there. But you know what it actually is? Jesus

00:48:49.420 --> 00:48:52.780
defined it for us. Man shall not live by bread

00:48:52.780 --> 00:48:56.420
alone, but by every word that proceeds from the

00:48:56.420 --> 00:49:01.440
mouth of God. Just in John chapter six, he says,

00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:06.519
I am the bread that come from heaven. I'm the

00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:09.139
bread. Your fathers ate, please hear me on this.

00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:13.440
Your fathers ate spiritual bread and they died.

00:49:15.300 --> 00:49:19.619
Being spiritual bread does not guarantee you

00:49:19.619 --> 00:49:24.940
life. Manna was spiritual bread. It was miraculous,

00:49:25.500 --> 00:49:32.519
spiritual. manifested bread. Jesus said, I am

00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:36.820
the bread from heaven. You shall eat this bread

00:49:36.820 --> 00:49:42.340
and live. So when Jesus in Mark and Matthew.

00:49:42.829 --> 00:49:45.130
Six is teaching the disciples to pray. What's

00:49:45.130 --> 00:49:47.550
he asking them to pray? He said, first of all,

00:49:47.570 --> 00:49:51.090
you've got to get in touch with a God that does

00:49:51.090 --> 00:49:53.809
not stay distant because that's what you learned

00:49:53.809 --> 00:49:56.349
in the Old Testament. There were mediaries in

00:49:56.349 --> 00:49:58.769
the middle. All you did is you came to learn

00:49:58.769 --> 00:50:01.550
about him and you handed off your sacrifices.

00:50:01.650 --> 00:50:04.550
You handed off everything else for a holy priesthood

00:50:04.550 --> 00:50:07.170
and you just stepped back and you watched and

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they cleansed you. They declared you clean for

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a year and so on and so forth. No, you've come

00:50:14.739 --> 00:50:16.940
to the God of the New Testament that now wants

00:50:16.940 --> 00:50:21.980
what? Partnership. Everything in your life prior

00:50:21.980 --> 00:50:24.880
is about reaching out to something that may or

00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:27.219
may not hear you and you have a hope of hearing

00:50:27.219 --> 00:50:29.719
you and that you stayed separated. Everything

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in the New Testament now that Jesus modeled was

00:50:32.719 --> 00:50:36.199
to bring you into relationship that you would

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have a father that would be a good giver, a gift

00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:44.500
giver by nature. Gift of bread, gift of his word,

00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:47.739
gift of his presence, gift of his protection,

00:50:48.039 --> 00:50:52.239
gift of supply, gift of love, gift of forgiveness.

00:50:52.460 --> 00:50:57.300
gift of grace. Everything about God would be

00:50:57.300 --> 00:51:01.780
the gift giver. So why would we get to the New

00:51:01.780 --> 00:51:05.280
Testament when God now all of a sudden pours

00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:08.599
out himself, the third part of the Trinity, and

00:51:08.599 --> 00:51:12.480
we would say, nope, that gift giver doesn't give

00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:22.199
gifts anymore. How insane is that? That the gift

00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:27.579
giver who gives of himself is not allowed now

00:51:27.579 --> 00:51:34.800
to give gifts? Let me just try to help you just

00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:38.340
embrace this a little more, Marcy. There's a

00:51:38.340 --> 00:51:40.360
big difference. Oh, there she is. Hey, sweetie.

00:51:40.880 --> 00:51:43.179
There's a big difference, and you know this,

00:51:43.340 --> 00:51:47.730
between Jenny and me, right? Not just the obvious

00:51:47.730 --> 00:51:50.349
that she has hair and I don't. Okay, but the

00:51:50.349 --> 00:51:55.230
reality is in our personalities. She is a words

00:51:55.230 --> 00:51:59.369
person. So if you give her a card or a letter

00:51:59.369 --> 00:52:02.829
that's about how you feel and how you think,

00:52:02.989 --> 00:52:08.369
she will treasure that and it is wonderful. If

00:52:08.369 --> 00:52:15.269
you give me that, it's nice. I appreciate it.

00:52:15.980 --> 00:52:20.260
but I don't store it in a drawer. I don't keep

00:52:20.260 --> 00:52:23.380
it as like this is, why? Because she, in her

00:52:23.380 --> 00:52:26.880
personality, is a words person. She wants words.

00:52:27.019 --> 00:52:29.840
So if I give her a card on our anniversary and

00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:36.179
says, love you, your husband, that's a negatory,

00:52:36.420 --> 00:52:40.099
okay? That means it doesn't matter what roses

00:52:40.099 --> 00:52:42.380
came, it doesn't matter what gift came, anniversary

00:52:42.380 --> 00:52:46.960
bound, there better be a full card. Front, over

00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:50.920
the writing, and on the back. Where I have sat

00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:53.980
down and I have formulated every, and it feels

00:52:53.980 --> 00:52:56.780
like I have to wring out my soul to write one

00:52:56.780 --> 00:52:59.380
of those cards. Not because it's terror for me,

00:52:59.500 --> 00:53:02.059
but because it just doesn't come naturally. I'm

00:53:02.059 --> 00:53:03.860
trying, Jenny's looking at me, where is he going

00:53:03.860 --> 00:53:07.079
with this? Because I'm having to wring out something

00:53:07.079 --> 00:53:11.320
that by nature I'm not, I do words like this,

00:53:11.340 --> 00:53:15.400
but I'm not words like gushy. Like if I just

00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:20.780
say to Kyle, bro, you're a great friend. Anything

00:53:20.780 --> 00:53:27.840
more than that is weird. Okay. I mean, Kyle would

00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:30.980
feel very uncomfortable. I'll go, Kyle, so meaningful

00:53:30.980 --> 00:53:36.739
in my life. I just want you to know sometimes.

00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:40.000
Your love for me is so deep. You think, what

00:53:40.000 --> 00:53:42.360
kind of church am I in? No, all right. Okay.

00:53:42.420 --> 00:53:45.280
The point is, that's not me. I don't do that.

00:53:45.559 --> 00:53:48.820
But if I was saying, Kyle, bro, you are an awesome

00:53:48.820 --> 00:53:50.820
brother. Here's a hundred dollars. First of all,

00:53:50.820 --> 00:53:52.440
it would blow his socks off the fact that I would

00:53:52.440 --> 00:53:53.840
give him a hundred dollars without him doing

00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:56.840
anything. Second of all, that would be my nature

00:53:56.840 --> 00:53:59.800
as a gift giver to say, I'm giving you honor

00:53:59.800 --> 00:54:03.119
from part of me. My nature is a gift giver. And

00:54:03.119 --> 00:54:05.900
so I'm giving you something that I thought of,

00:54:05.920 --> 00:54:13.119
or I bought him a A tool. Right? Jenny and I

00:54:13.119 --> 00:54:14.579
are totally different. Let me tell you about

00:54:14.579 --> 00:54:19.440
a gift giver. When you're a gift giver, you automatically

00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:25.119
are giving of yourself in that gift. The worst

00:54:25.119 --> 00:54:28.619
thing you can get as a gift giver is when somebody

00:54:28.619 --> 00:54:32.699
says, I don't want your gifts. Because they're

00:54:32.699 --> 00:54:35.940
not saying no to the gift. They're saying no

00:54:35.940 --> 00:54:38.670
to the one who thought about it. who planned

00:54:38.670 --> 00:54:41.230
it. It didn't just give it at an afterthought.

00:54:41.349 --> 00:54:45.869
A gift giver thinks intentionally and thinks

00:54:45.869 --> 00:54:48.550
this will honor them. This will show my love

00:54:48.550 --> 00:54:50.550
for them. And when somebody says, I don't want

00:54:50.550 --> 00:54:54.550
the gift, just think about God who embraces all

00:54:54.550 --> 00:54:58.429
of the aspects of the various natures from affirmation,

00:54:58.429 --> 00:55:04.329
words of affection, time with him, right? When

00:55:04.329 --> 00:55:08.500
we say to the Holy Spirit, I don't want your

00:55:08.500 --> 00:55:11.219
gifts. I don't need your gifts because I'm fearful.

00:55:11.460 --> 00:55:14.239
I don't understand it. And I don't want to change.

00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:19.159
We're actually telling God, I don't want what's

00:55:19.159 --> 00:55:23.519
part of you. And to me, that's the biggest travesty

00:55:23.519 --> 00:55:29.500
of all that this other philosophy has created.

00:55:29.599 --> 00:55:33.760
Why? Because it's elevated the mind of man and

00:55:33.760 --> 00:55:38.119
man's comfortability. Over actually embracing.

00:55:38.340 --> 00:55:43.780
Who the Holy Spirit is as part of God. I'm telling

00:55:43.780 --> 00:55:48.659
you fear. For almost 25 years of my life. Dominated

00:55:48.659 --> 00:55:53.079
me in every aspect. I was more concerned about.

00:55:54.159 --> 00:55:57.219
Doing something wrong. Being wrong. Looking foolish.

00:55:57.440 --> 00:56:01.429
Being deceived. thinking about what would others

00:56:01.429 --> 00:56:03.630
think of me? What am I going to have to face?

00:56:03.650 --> 00:56:06.230
Fear of being rejected, fear of failure. That

00:56:06.230 --> 00:56:12.969
was my whole grid of pursuing Christ. And when

00:56:12.969 --> 00:56:15.909
God called me to plant this church, I said, Lord,

00:56:15.989 --> 00:56:17.929
I don't want to go there because I know what

00:56:17.929 --> 00:56:20.630
I'm going to face. And he said, you're going

00:56:20.630 --> 00:56:23.929
to have with my power to confront this fear.

00:56:24.150 --> 00:56:28.019
And I said, okay, Lord. Fear, you must come out.

00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:30.139
And I didn't think anything was going to happen.

00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:33.619
And right as I said that, I just threw up right

00:56:33.619 --> 00:56:35.460
there on the flower bed in the parking lot, in

00:56:35.460 --> 00:56:41.800
the church parking lot. I mean, just... I wiped

00:56:41.800 --> 00:56:44.519
my mouth. I said, Lord, what was that? He said,

00:56:44.559 --> 00:56:47.480
there's more. Tell it to go. And I began to command

00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:50.800
fear to come. I began to leave deposits of puke.

00:56:51.300 --> 00:56:54.099
Oh, I'm sorry. It's almost lunchtime, so I thought

00:56:54.099 --> 00:56:58.369
I'd get you ready. deposits of puke in a flower

00:56:58.369 --> 00:57:03.829
bed all along the church property. And it lasted

00:57:03.829 --> 00:57:06.309
clear, and people that came from the church would

00:57:06.309 --> 00:57:09.550
know, from the back of the parking lot all the

00:57:09.550 --> 00:57:11.710
way along the side of those trees planted clear

00:57:11.710 --> 00:57:16.789
to the north parking lot. I puked and puked and

00:57:16.789 --> 00:57:19.210
puked each time. Finally, I couldn't even say

00:57:19.210 --> 00:57:26.570
it anymore. I just kept saying, ah! I was confronting

00:57:26.570 --> 00:57:31.690
fear because from a little boy, it's not that

00:57:31.690 --> 00:57:34.909
my parents instilled fear to that degree, but

00:57:34.909 --> 00:57:38.610
the atmosphere of everything I related to was

00:57:38.610 --> 00:57:41.590
about fear, fear of being deceived, fear of failure.

00:57:41.690 --> 00:57:44.309
It stopped me from pursuing the gifts of the

00:57:44.309 --> 00:57:48.230
spirit. It stopped me at so many levels. And

00:57:48.230 --> 00:57:53.809
I realized I had more faith in fear. Then I had

00:57:53.809 --> 00:57:58.210
faith in the word of who God was. And that's

00:57:58.210 --> 00:58:04.090
what we will do this summer. Is we're going to

00:58:04.090 --> 00:58:06.670
continue to preach on this. Of who the Holy Spirit

00:58:06.670 --> 00:58:13.230
is. Why he is fully God. Why he is the way he

00:58:13.230 --> 00:58:16.650
is. And that this church hopefully. Of course

00:58:16.650 --> 00:58:19.110
you're always welcome to find somewhere else.

00:58:19.230 --> 00:58:22.099
But if you're planted here. There should be something

00:58:22.099 --> 00:58:25.460
in your heart that says, I want to partner with

00:58:25.460 --> 00:58:28.619
what is the full will, way, and word of God.

00:58:29.820 --> 00:58:34.380
And I don't want fear to dominate. Do I want

00:58:34.380 --> 00:58:37.159
to be deceived? No. But we have the scriptures

00:58:37.159 --> 00:58:40.460
for that. We have the truth of God's word. I

00:58:40.460 --> 00:58:43.340
don't have to cut the Holy Spirit off thinking

00:58:43.340 --> 00:58:49.900
he's evil. He cannot be evil. He cannot be. He

00:58:49.900 --> 00:58:56.460
is of God. He is God. And whatever he gives has

00:58:56.460 --> 00:59:00.659
to be pure, right, and true. There's no shadow

00:59:00.659 --> 00:59:03.559
of turning with him. Do people make mistakes?

00:59:03.739 --> 00:59:07.719
Do we separate where people move past the Lord

00:59:07.719 --> 00:59:10.199
and don't judge things? Absolutely. But that

00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:13.380
does not indict the Holy Spirit. That indicts

00:59:13.380 --> 00:59:17.059
their flesh and their soul. So would you pray

00:59:17.059 --> 00:59:20.239
with me this morning? that we would just welcome

00:59:20.239 --> 00:59:22.579
that, Trent, if you'd come, get ready to close

00:59:22.579 --> 00:59:27.039
the service. Can we do that this morning? Would

00:59:27.039 --> 00:59:28.400
you just do that with me? Would you bow your

00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:30.980
head and close your eyes for a moment? Father,

00:59:31.039 --> 00:59:39.940
in Jesus' name, I pray this morning, Lord, that

00:59:39.940 --> 00:59:45.179
you would take these words and, Lord, the journey

00:59:45.179 --> 00:59:48.599
that you've brought me through. And God, it would

00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:52.360
speak to your people this morning. Take, Holy

00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:54.440
Spirit, you could do more in a moment than I

00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:58.099
could do in another hour or two. You know how

00:59:58.099 --> 01:00:00.139
to get behind the scenes. You know how to unlock

01:00:00.139 --> 01:00:04.340
hearts. And I'm asking now with the journey of

01:00:04.340 --> 01:00:07.199
how gracious you've been to me, breaking fear

01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:10.820
off of my life to begin to trust what is in your

01:00:10.820 --> 01:00:13.940
word and to trust your nature. I pray that that

01:00:13.940 --> 01:00:16.460
would be a hunger that would come upon everyone

01:00:16.460 --> 01:00:19.480
in this congregation from the first service to

01:00:19.480 --> 01:00:21.920
the second service. Whatever we were raised in,

01:00:21.980 --> 01:00:24.360
however we were brought up, Lord, if there's

01:00:24.360 --> 01:00:27.820
valves enough for places in us that say, I haven't

01:00:27.820 --> 01:00:29.880
wanted to do that because I'm fearful. I'm fearful

01:00:29.880 --> 01:00:31.699
what others would think. I'm fearful for what

01:00:31.699 --> 01:00:34.019
I might do. I'm fearful for being taught wrong.

01:00:34.159 --> 01:00:36.880
I'm fearful that I might be deceived. Lord, we

01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:40.300
bring those to the light this morning. And we

01:00:40.300 --> 01:00:42.900
say, Holy Spirit, establish the truth of your

01:00:42.900 --> 01:00:46.619
word in my life and let that be the marker I

01:00:46.619 --> 01:00:50.579
live from. No longer living under limitation.

01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:55.380
No longer living a hybrid of Old Testament and

01:00:55.380 --> 01:00:59.659
New Testament life, but living a full life by

01:00:59.659 --> 01:01:02.800
the grace of God in the New Testament, having

01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:05.940
understanding from the old, but living in the

01:01:05.940 --> 01:01:09.239
kingdom and the spirit of truth. truth and the

01:01:09.239 --> 01:01:12.800
power of your anointing. I pray that over this

01:01:12.800 --> 01:01:16.860
church and I release that now in Jesus Christ's

01:01:16.860 --> 01:01:22.739
holy name. Amen. Thank you for taking the time

01:01:22.739 --> 01:01:25.900
to listen to this week's message. We are so grateful

01:01:25.900 --> 01:01:28.500
for those who tune in each week and have given

01:01:28.500 --> 01:01:42.579
generously to this ministry. If you are in need

01:01:42.579 --> 01:01:46.440
of prayer, send us a text message at 541 -625

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