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We're going to do a little Q &A here before we

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let you go and go get your lunch and then come

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back tonight for prayer. Everybody heard prayer?

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Come on, praying in the spirit at 6 o 'clock.

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The fact is you can even pray a little further

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than 6 o 'clock. You can pray in tongues on your

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way out here. Hallelujah. That would be even

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great. That's part of the reason God put us in

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Harrisburg, to help your spiritual life pray

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to get here. Hallelujah. All right. Glory to

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God. Let's do a little Q &A. And I'd like to

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frame it in. So here's the framing in right now

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for this section. I want you to stay within the

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boundaries of what we talked about this morning

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on hearing God, okay, with Dr. Jan Venter. So

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this category of how to hear the Lord and operating

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in that seeing, hearing realm as well. So that's

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kind of the... That's kind of going to be my

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set category this morning. And so I want you

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just to think about that a little bit. Pray in

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tongues. What is my question? And if you have

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a question, make it intelligent as much as you

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can. And I'm going to come out and bring the

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mic to you and let them answer your question.

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So anybody have a question right off the bat

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in that arena that you would like to ask? Hallelujah.

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You lifted your hand first. Okay, I'm embarrassed

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to ask the question, but I'm going to ask you

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anyway, Tony. When I find myself praying in tongues

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at night, I stay awake. Speak a little louder.

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Okay, excuse me, I'll speak up a little bit louder.

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When I pray in tongues at night as I'm falling

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asleep, I find I don't go to sleep. I just stay

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awake. When do you stop? Yeah, seriously. Here's

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what I would do if I were you. Okay? I would

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pray in tongues earlier in the evening, but I

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would do soft instrumental music if that relaxes

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you and helps you go to sleep. Does that do that

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for you? Christian music. Okay? That's answer

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one. Answer two. Because I sometimes do that.

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Because sometimes I get so excited, I'm awake.

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Okay. So sometimes I'll do soft instrumental

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Christian music because it has the atmosphere.

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Second thing I'll do is sometimes I will go on

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YouTube and listen to like the Gospel of John

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or like Matthew and listen to the word until

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I fall asleep. And just listen. And it's amazing

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how the word of God will just relax you. And

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you're receiving that word into your spirit.

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OK, and then it'll relax you and then you could

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actually move from that into a spirit of revelation.

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OK, and then let me let me share this with you.

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Sometimes what you're what you'll do is you'll

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have a dream and it's just anxiety dream or just

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crazy stuff. All right. And then all of a sudden,

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in the midst of that, God will insert something.

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And then you need to catch it. Like last night,

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I'm just dreaming some stuff. Okay? But in the

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middle of all of that, I had a dream where God

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spoke to me personally. And then in the middle

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of it, I heard a word on a subject that I'm now

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researching. But I had to recognize it. And so

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then when I wake up. I go, okay, now I have to

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start looking up scriptures on this subject because

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the Holy Spirit obviously now wants to direct

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my attention toward it. Okay? And then the other

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thing had to do with the Lord revealing something

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to me about me that I needed to know. A correction.

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And look at somebody and say, and that's always

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a wonderful thing. And also, if that don't work,

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just take the book of Numbers and read and try

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and pronounce every name, you know. Okay. Well

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spoken. All right. Another question in regard

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to that. Okay. Yes, sir. Hang up. Hang up. I'm

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coming. My name is Daniel, and I'm Native American.

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I do speak my language, and it's sort of like

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meditating in a sweat lodge, but it's kind of

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hard to open up to do the tongues. It's a different

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environment, different way, but I'm really trying

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to figure out how to open up to talk tongues,

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but I usually just speak my native language.

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How could I go about working on that? I speak

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seven languages, and I can tell you right now

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that the connection between earthly languages

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and the spirit language, there's no connection.

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You have to disconnect. No matter what kind of

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language you speak, you have to learn how to

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disconnect from the natural to the spiritual

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because the natural man does not understand the

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things of the spirit of God. And that's why that

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when you speak in tongues, even to you, it'll

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sound like a brabble noise in the beginning.

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Because it's an unknown language. It's an unknown

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tongue. Maybe known to other people that understands

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the language. But when you speak in tongues or

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you want to speak in tongues, you have to allow

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your natural man to disconnect and to connect

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to the spirit. That was good. All right. Yeah,

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okay. Yes, I'm going to try to just move to sections.

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Anyone right here in this section, okay? Thank

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you. I'm just curious, how often is it appropriate,

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the instance where I've seen people be delivered

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and then it's after the deliverance, they just

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raise their hand and start speaking in tongues

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and they're obviously being filled with the Holy

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Ghost, but they're not even doing it. They're

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not trying to do it. Now, we're trying to speak

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in tongues. Is there a separation between that

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and God's having it happen versus you having

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it happen? Does that make sense to you guys?

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Want me to take this one? Yeah. Let me explain

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this because this is a great question, by the

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way. How did they get delivered? They yielded

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to God. And they said yes to the Lord. And so...

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And so they stayed in a state of yieldedness.

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Their spirit yielded. And so they stayed in that

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state and then they just started speaking. Because

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when they felt that urge through the Holy Spirit

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to speak. See, here's what's funny to me. I really

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struggled. Okay. I hope this don't bother you

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because I just, what you see is what you get.

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I really struggled to be able to speak in tongues

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because I had control issues. I like to analyze

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stuff and figure it out. And I couldn't figure

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it out. I couldn't figure it out. And so, okay,

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see, this is what's funny. How do you speak any

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language? You move your lips and you roll your

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tongue. So when the day of Pentecost fully came.

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There were one accord in one place, and suddenly

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there came a sound from heaven, rushing mighty

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wind, divided tongues like as a fire. They were

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all filled with the Holy Spirit, and they spoke.

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Look at somebody say, you got to move your lips

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and roll your tongue. So, I'm moving my lips

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and roll my tongue. That's my act of faith in

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yielding. And I sometimes, even now to this day,

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From 72 now, I'll be praying in the spirit and

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go, wait a minute, I'm speaking in tongues. And

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I wasn't even aware I was speaking in tongues.

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And I become conscious I'm praying in the spirit

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because I'm yielding. And then there's times

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when I have to voluntarily, by faith, speak.

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And as I speak, I'm yielding. So you have the

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sovereign and you have the voluntary yielding.

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Sometimes people are yielding, but they don't

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even know they're yielding. And that's what happens

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in deliverance. That's really good. Excellent.

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You see, you also must remember that you can

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never bring the natural into the supernatural.

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You cannot take the spiritual into the carnal

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and vice versa. It's two different worlds. And

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so when you want to speak in tongues, once again,

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you have to disconnect from the carnal, the natural.

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Because the natural man doesn't understand these

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things. So it's a total disconnect and you accept

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that the Holy Spirit will just lead you from

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that moment on. Excellent question. Okay, next

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one. Richard. Being frontline men of God, how

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many times are you two attacked each day? By

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Satan? And then do you have a standard way you

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address that? Very good question. Because once

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your spirit becomes sensitive to the spirit realm,

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now you have to learn the world of spirits and

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you learn the person of the Holy Spirit. But

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you're going to encounter, when a person gets

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baptized in the Holy Spirit, they're just opened

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up to the world of spirits. And so you learn

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the person of the Holy Spirit, but you're going

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to also discover that there's other spirits out

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there from the realm of darkness who, from time

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to time, they're going to talk to you. Now, let

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me say this, and you can do with this whatever

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you want. Not every spirit, evil spirit that

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talks to you, will say you. They will sometimes

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say I to get you to believe that it's the voice

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of your own spirit, to get you to adopt their

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lie so that they can be empowered to work against

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you. Look at somebody saying, not every thought

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shows. And some thoughts are spirits. So one

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of the reasons it's critical for us to learn

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the word of the Lord is to say, is this thought,

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is it in keeping with what is written or the

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character of God? And if not, even if it says

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I and mimics the voice of my human spirit, it

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is to be rejected, casting down imaginations,

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right? St. Corinthians chapter 10, four and all.

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Okay, so you're going to have some level of warfare,

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but I don't allow myself to get caught up into

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it. So if a spirit comes to me and gives me a

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thought, rather than engaging the enemy, I just

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simply say, Lord, I send that one to you. And

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I keep right on going because I'm not going,

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we're not going to play that game. Where the

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enemy going to wear me out wrestling with a thought,

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a thought. Seriously? Really? No. Lord, I send

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that. See, even when I say, Lord, I send that

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to you, I'm still focused on Jesus. I'm still

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focused on Jesus. So, I'm not doing that. Or

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I simply say, it is written. And I'm still focused

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on Jesus. I'm not going to let the enemy catch

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me up in spiritual warfare where he becomes my

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focus. Jesus said, it is written. He kept the

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Father his focus. Very good. Do you want to add

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anything to that? Yeah. I personally also feel

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that people oftentimes involve themselves too

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much and unnecessarily with spiritual warfare.

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You're not supposed to be involved in spiritual

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warfare. You walk in victory. You walk in the

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spirit. So you don't give way to those thoughts.

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Sometimes I think, and the church especially,

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is too enamored by a spiritual warfare that Paul

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dealt with in the book of Ephesians. You'll notice

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that in the teachings of Jesus, it was you run

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across demons and you cast them away. And that's

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it. Live your life in such a way that in any

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case, and it's too much of a subject, but in

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any case, the Ephesian subject, I personally

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believe, was Paul's teachings about fallen angels

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and the encounters of fallen angels, not demons.

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And so that's not stuff that you're supposed

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to even get involved with. You are in victory.

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You have been blessed with all spiritual blessings.

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And you need to walk like that. Walk in victory.

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And like we said here last night, you know, talking

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about angels. You have angels that stands by

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to help you walk in victory. Keep your mind on

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Christ and away from Satan. That's good. That's

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good. Tony, I'm going to do a follow -up question

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for you. Yeah. In regard to just... confirming

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even what you guys both said, the Bible says

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in John, John writes, test all things, right?

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Oh, okay. If you have a lot of experience with

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angels, the angels of God, which, you know, because

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I need so much help, I have. Because, yeah. I

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remember this, that a demonic angel came to me.

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posing as an angel of God to talk to me, and

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he kind of sounded like one, but I was looking

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at him, and I caught a glimpse of darkness. So,

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when in doubt, if an angel says something, make

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sure it's in keeping with what is written, the

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character of God, right? Right? And then you

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can actually make the, you can challenge the

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angel to confess that Jesus Christ came in the

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flesh and that Jesus Christ is his Lord and master.

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That is so, that is so true. Make him say it.

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So I busted this angel out. Okay. Okay. I should

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probably explain this. The name Kemp means warrior.

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my real name is Phillip Anthony. Everybody calls

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me Tony, but Phillip means lover of horses, which

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is military. And so sometimes I get real aggressive.

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And so I busted his behind out and he left. Okay.

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So all I'm saying is I'm not afraid of being

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deceived. The very fear of deception can lead

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to deception. All you got to know is the Father,

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Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and it is written. So

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ain't no big deal. Sooner or later, one's going

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to come to try to trick you. Just bust his behind

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out and send him off in the name of Jesus. Okay,

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now I'll come back down. That's great. And springing

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off of that, the reality is when it says test

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all things, the written word is so critically

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important to every level of the supernatural.

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Yeah. Because as you've said, and we've talked

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about the level of intrigue. of people of how

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they're hearing you know we we hear it all the

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time well my departed daughter or son they visit

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me or they talk to me and you hear those type

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of things that are clearly unbiblical but there's

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no training in the word of god and so people

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having wisdom Not from above. That is pure. And

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that's the key again. Knowing the scriptures.

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It's pure. It's noble. It's righteous. It's connected

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to God's word. His character. His truth. His

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holiness. If that's not there. That's why you

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have to test it out. Test it out in every form

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of revelation. A word to anything. Let's talk

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about, and then I'll get a couple more questions.

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Let's talk about discerning of spirits as in

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the list in 1 Corinthians 12, discerning of spirits.

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Doctor? In what sense? Well, just whatever sense

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you want to talk about it. Well, you know, if

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you want to discern the spirits, it's just like

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you said. You know, you've got to judge them

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by... what comes from them. You know, it's got

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to be tested on the level of the word. You know,

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you cannot believe everything or anything that

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comes to you. It's got to pass the test of the

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word. Number two, it's got to pass the test of

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the character of God. If it doesn't have the

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character of God, it doesn't pass my test. It

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doesn't matter what they say. It doesn't matter

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how intelligent they sound. It doesn't matter

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how convincing they sound. They've got to pass

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the character of God. And then number three,

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are they surrounded by love? Is what is happening,

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is it covered by love? God is love. So if there's

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an absence of love or the presence of malice,

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it's clear. That's how I test them. Yeah, the

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other thing of it is I try to look at my, okay,

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I try to examine my own heart in the light of

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the written word of God and the Holy Spirit.

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Because if your spirit's wrong, your discernment

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is not clear. Okay. And so Dr. Yon said something

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that I think is real, real important. And I do

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want to mention this because a lot of times people

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want to enter the realm of the supernatural in

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Jesus, but they really suffer from guilt. Now

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you have two types of guilt. You have guilt that's

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genuine because you really did something wrong.

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You didn't repent. And look at somebody and say,

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just repent. And then believe the word. If we

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walk in the light as he's in the light, the blood

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of Jesus constantly and continuously cleanses

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us from all sin. Okay, so once I've repented,

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and now I have boldness to enter into the most

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holy father through the blood of Jesus. Once

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I've repented, once I've confessed that he's

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faithful and just, 1 John 1 and 9. Now, now you

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need to hear this. Now I'm in a state of innocence.

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I'm in a state of innocence. Romans 5 and 1,

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therefore being justified by faith, I have peace

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with God through my Lord Jesus Christ. So I stand

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before God just as if I've never sinned. Now

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through a sense of innocence because of the blood

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of Jesus and his resurrection from the dead,

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now I have no real sense of sin. So now if the

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enemy brings something, it's false guilt. Therefore

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there is now no what? condemnation to them who

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are in Christ Jesus, right? So now in this state

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of innocence, now my faith operates, right? Because

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whatsoever we ask of him, we receive because

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we keep his commandments, right? So beloved,

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if a heart does not condemn us, we have what?

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Confidence and peace toward God, right? So now

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in this peace, in this peace, I can receive revelation.

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But if I let the enemy convince me of a false

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guilt that the blood of Jesus is taken care of,

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then it's going to be hard for me to receive

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revelation from God. Does that make sense to

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you? So I just want to mention that. And it's

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going to be hard for me to minister by the Spirit

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or receive ministry by the Spirit if I'm in a

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state of guilt. That's why I always try to help

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people to repent first. And, you know, the Bible

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also speaks of, you know, the saints being equipped.

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You know, you must always remember that you are

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equipped. He makes sure that you are equipped.

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He's not going to just release you to just go

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out there, even if you don't have, you know,

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a high level of experience in this realm we're

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talking about. And one of the equipping of the

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saints is the anointing. The anointing, that's

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what John says, you have an anointing. And so

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the anointing bears witness of the truth. And

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so that should be a very strong guide for all

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of us, you know, with the anointing. It not only

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breaks the yoke of bondage, but it bears witness

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of the truth. That's really good. Really good.

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Okay, one more question here. Who's got a great

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question. It's just burning, you know, the Holy

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Spirit sent it to be answered. Karen. Thank you,

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first of all, for the great blessing of you guys

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sharing your experiences with God. I know early

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in my walk, I was attacked because of a lot of

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stuff that was passed down. God taught me personally.

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And one thing that, as I was struggling with

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self, which to me is the biggest warfare that

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we have, was motivation. And I just kept begging

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and begging God for motivation. And then as I

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walked the walk, I saw how that relationship

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was the motivation. I was wondering if you guys

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could talk on that. You want to go first? Okay,

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you know, the thing is, to become aware of...

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of one's purpose. You know, that, I believe,

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is the strongest force that will motivate you,

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is when you become aware of really what your

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purpose is. Because that's the thing with so

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many people is they live aimlessly or without

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purpose. It's amazing that when you come into

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that area or that awareness of what your purpose

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is, what you were created for. The moment you

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come into that thing there, that becomes an incredible

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motivational force. You cannot live aimlessly.

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You've got to come to a place where you say,

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wow, that's what I'm here for. Now, once you

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find out that's what I'm here for, guess what?

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You're not going to need no encouragement. You

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know, because you remember what Jesus said, where

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your heart is, there will be what? Your treasure.

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So once you find out where is my heart, you're

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going to discover your treasure. Yeah, and in

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connection with that, remember Philippians, Paul

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said this. He says, God's working in you, giving

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you both the desire and the ability to do his

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good pleasure. So questions, okay? One of the

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things the Lord really taught me to do is ask

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questions. So what is it that you love? What

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is it that you hate? What moves you to have compassion?

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What is it you want to fix? Okay? And not just

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that, but if I can say it to you like this, one

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of the reasons the Father and Jesus put all these

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different ministries in the church and speakers

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come through, and sometimes you'll listen to

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a speaker, man or woman, and you'll go, you know,

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I think... That resonates with it. It rings your

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bell. It makes your baby leap Okay, just like

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John the Baptist leaked when he heard the voice

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of Jesus and it's like yeah I want to be like

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that when I grow up And so sometimes what happens

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is you're listening to a speaker and something

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on the inside of you says, that's it, that's

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it, that's it. Now you want to do your research.

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Now you want to get a model. Because, see, we

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grow by more than messages. We have to have a

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model. We have to have a picture. And then we

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say, okay, now what steps do I have to take to

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cause that revelation to become a personal reality?

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Wow. Can you tell them thank you? If you are

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