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Welcome to Everyone Deserves Sunshine, I'm Diana.

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And I'm Anusha, we're the girls in the crease.

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This is episode 20, where we're - We're talking

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about everything we've done this season so far

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on our podcast. We're going to call it the recap

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episode. The recap episode. The recap and a farewell

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for now episode. Farewell for now. Yes. Just

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temporarily for a little bit. Do not leave us.

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We'll be back soon. 20 episodes when I talk to

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the few friends of mine that haven't listened

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to this podcast because they have not. watched

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the show. I cannot believe I'm friends with these

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people still. You should not be friends with

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them anymore. Concessions need to be made. Personality

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defects must be overlooked. And that's a huge

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personality defect. And you could say that because

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clearly they don't listen to this podcast. We

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could just talk about them the whole time. We

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could. They always say, isn't the show like six

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episodes? How are you making 20 episodes from

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this? And is there actually that much to talk

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about? And the answer to that is. A resounding

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yes. There is always that much to talk about.

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Yeah. I mean, in the fandom alone, they're talking

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about it all day, every day. So the fact that

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we did 20 episodes, which is 20 weeks on a six

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episode show. I mean, like, I think we're OK,

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you know? Yeah. I mean, that's less than 20 hours

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of talking about the show. We know that we spent

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20 hours recording. We've spent a lot longer

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recording. So speaking of that, I'd like to ask

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you a question. What has this experience been

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like for you, this whole podcasting situation?

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All right. This is it. The moment of truth. This

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is the question. This is the question. You know

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what? The best part about this whole podcast

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was getting to know you better because we were

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friends, but now we're... We were friends, but

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now we're... But now we're immortal enemies.

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We went from friends to enemies. That's our trajectory.

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That's our... That's like the romance genre story

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from us. Like friends to enemies to lovers. Well,

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we like it that way. You like it that way. My

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favorite part is we were friends and now we're

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friends who really know each other. You know

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what I mean? I mean, I think podcasting teaches

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you a lot about your co -host. So that's my favorite

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part. Like the fact that your co -host thinks

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that an hour episode will only take an hour of

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recording. And then she only schedules an hour

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out of her day. And then we spent the first half

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an hour just like. figuring out the technical

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difficulties. Yeah, yeah, that. Yeah, you learn

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a lot about each other in that way. You know,

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Diane, I think you thought maybe I was like this

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perfect goddess before these last 20 weeks. Yeah,

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I did. And now I'm slightly less perfect goddess,

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like a demigod maybe. Well, you know, I don't.

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I don't know if that's true. To be serious for

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a second. I think we definitely learned a lot

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more about each other, even though we've been

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friends for five years prior to doing this. And

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I always say to all my newish friends, right,

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because I've had some friends as you also from

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like childhood. But I always say this to my newest

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friends, like, let's make it through year seven,

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you know, the year and seven year itch. And we'll

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see if we actually remain friends because seven

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year itch. And one of our friends gets real mad

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when I say that because she's like, oh, my God,

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Diana, we're going to be friends forever. But

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my point is, is that we've been friends for about

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five years prior to doing this. And there are

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definitely things that I have learned about you

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that were very interesting to me, but moved you

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up in. how I feel about you. So I feel like we

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will pass the seven year itch eventually and

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just continue going. Now I say that after 20

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episodes, who knows what will happen after another

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20, you know, life, life takes you in very interesting,

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unexpected places. So do you remember our first

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episode where we had five to six hours of content

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and we had to edit that? I mean, that was such

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a beast. And for the first set of episodes, we

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were sitting like right next to each other or

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staring at each other, in fact, like across from

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a table, which actually logistically was not

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that great. We didn't know what we were doing.

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We had no idea what we were doing. My husband

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was like the third producer on the floor. I almost

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forgot about. all of that until you just reminded

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me. Like the way we started, it was so crazy.

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And we had no idea what we were doing. I also

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remember how nervous I was. I was tripping over

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my own name. To be fair, I did it this episode

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too. So maybe that was a good bookend. The logistics

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of podcasting were such a new thing. And now

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we're sitting here doing things just on the fly.

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So it's a very steep learning curve, I think.

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For sure. Yeah, I approached this project with

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your husband first, as you remember. Well, he

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approached it with me. But when he had this idea,

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I was like, well, I know nothing about podcasting.

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So he's like, no, no, no, I'll do everything.

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I'll produce it. I'll edit it. I'll, you know,

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whatever. And the first. episode or so couple

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he was there he was right along with us you know

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and then we're like okay we got this but the

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funny thing is I I approach podcasting in the

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same way I approach most things I go 100 % in

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like if I'm doing it I'm doing it and I always

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have this mindset of well if boys can do it how

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hard can it be so like there are plenty of boys

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doing it and it's you know, you and I are doing

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it too. Why not? We can do it. And we have been

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doing it. So props to us. I mean, obviously a

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learning curve. I remember we would lose edits

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often and we would cry about it. And we would

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fight about it. And we would fight about it.

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It was like hours and hours of work just gone.

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It was a tough start, I got to say, you know,

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but I think we got over the hump rather quickly,

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I would say, for two. Working moms who try too

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hard and never stop. Yeah, I think I learned.

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I wouldn't say I learned anything about myself

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because I know myself pretty well. But I learned

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to have a little more patience with things when

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they don't quite go the way I thought they should

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because I'm a perfectionist and I hate it. But

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also I can't help it. So that's that. And I have

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to say the best part also about. The podcasting

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is the creativity. It inspired working and existing

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in this current state of the world. And being

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a mom, you just feel completely spread thin.

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And oddly, the podcasting continued to spread

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us thinner. But the creativity that I think came

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out of it, it really felt like it was like. it

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lit up my soul a little bit, you know? And for

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me, the creativity is the writing piece and the

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editing and, and like the storytelling piece.

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And for you, it's not just that, it's the creativity

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of the social media. posting. And then of course,

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like your newfound creativity of edits of all

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sorts, which was so fun to see for me personally,

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because I'm like, who's this girl? I am a creative

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person in some ways, not always. And there's

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certain things I'm good at and certain things

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I'm not in terms of like art. artsy things. Most

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artsy things I'm not good at. I'm not like an

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artist. I've always been very envious of people

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who can create art. I'm analytical and critical,

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but I am not artistic. But I loved how all of

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this has inspired my analytical brain. I love

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that it gave me specifically an outlet for creativity.

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And the fact that My creativity was just so dormant,

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you know, because in my current position at work,

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I don't really get to be creative too much. It's

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almost like a very technical job. I used to be

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a teacher, as you know, so I was very creative

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in that life. And I felt like that was. gone

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for a very, very long period of time. To be fair,

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I have done a lot of this type of somewhat creative

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work when I ran campaigns, the editing and the

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videos and the graphics and all that. But it's

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definitely a different type of situation because

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when you're working on campaigns, it's a volunteer

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position, obviously, I say working, but when

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you're volunteering, it's a very thankless position.

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It's a very high level stress. position. And

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while you get to be creative, it's not really

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fun to creative in many ways. This, on the other

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hand, is very fun. Creative feels very rewarding

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on a personal level. And it's thankful. Like,

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I am so grateful to all of this. And I'm so happy

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that we got to do this. And we're going to continue

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doing this because I don't know, like we talk

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about joy and sometimes it feels very silly to

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say like joy when everything is burning around

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you. And you know me before this too, like I'm

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not a very like, oh, joy, happiness. Like I'm

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not one of those people. I'm more like the world

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is burning, you know, we're all going to die

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person. But I have been using the word joy a

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lot and using the word spread the joy a lot.

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And I'm like, who am I? Like, that's not a Diana

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that I grew up with. But I feel it. And if I

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feel it, I may as well talk about it, you know,

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and it and it does bring me a lot of joy. I know

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it does for you to this whole endeavor. And it's

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funny that you mentioned the how we can be doing

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this with only a six episode show, because literally

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last night I was talking to one of our friends

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about it. And I was like, oh, I was complaining

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that I had to wake up early to do this. And and

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she was like, I can't believe I cannot believe

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that you are six months in. And you guys are

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still this obsessed with this show. And I'm like,

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listen, it actually is exactly six months, like

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the last for me, right? Because I started like

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a month later than you. It was December 28th,

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I think, was when I like finished binging the

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show. And it's May. And I actually, you know,

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in my memories, I have pictures of me like just

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sobbing to episode five that I was like taking

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and sending to like you and my other friends.

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Artistic crying. Yeah, artistic crying. And it's

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six months, but I'm not at all in a place where

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I'm like, OK, I can move on. I have no interest

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in moving on. I'm so happy here. Leave me here.

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This is where I belong. I want to ask you a question

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now. Yes. Can you? And you must pick some of

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the most favorite episodes that you had from

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our podcast. Okay. And why? You know, that's

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hard, obviously, because it's like picking your

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favorite child. And I can. I can. I can pick

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one. Just kidding. My kids don't listen to this

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podcast, so it's okay. Okay. I have a couple.

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And because you break rules all the time, I too

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will break rules. So I think that. First of all,

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I think our first couple of episodes, the immigrant

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experience and the toxic masculinity and the

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why we're obsessed. They were some of my favorites

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just because we were trying to like figure things

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out. And they were the ones that like got us

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our audience. Like, let's be honest, right? I

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think the immigrant experience won because it's

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obviously so near and dear to my heart and as

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is to yours. It was one of my favorites, especially

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since my mom had listened to it and she had texted

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me and she's like, thank you for this episode.

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It was so meaningful to me. She said, I felt

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so seen. buy that episode. So I love that one.

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I will say I listened to Rachel Reed. She accepted

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an award. It was like Women in Entertainment

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by I want to say like Hollywood Reporter maybe.

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In her speech, she said, many times people have

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asked me why women enjoy my books. Why do they

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enjoy watching a show about two young men who

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fall in love with each other? What are women

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getting out of this experience? And why are they

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able to relate to the story? And to me, it's

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very obvious why women want to watch a show where

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sex scenes are full of consent and caretaking

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and checking in and mutual pleasure. I don't

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think it's. at all surprising that women would

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want to see emotionally vulnerable men watch

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them yearn and struggle and hurt and grow and

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be patient and loving men who love their mothers

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and value their relationships with women. I write

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books about men. I wouldn't say I write them

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for women specifically, but I write them knowing

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that women will appreciate these characters and

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I write them in a way to expose the way patriarchy

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and toxic masculinity harm all of us. And I write

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them also because I care deeply about the rights

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of queer and trans people. and about the rights

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for everyone to be who they are openly and without

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fear. Isn't that beautiful? And I feel like that

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quote is like multiple of our episodes, like

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in one, right? Like we talked about like toxic

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masculinity and queer stories and queer rights.

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And, you know, we've talked about women and our

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feelings, which I know is that that's going to

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be one of yours. And in our first episode, Why

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We're Obsessed, we talked about this, why women

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specifically are really enjoying this show. So

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to answer your question, in a very long way is

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that I love a lot of our episodes, but I think

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the first few were the ones that kind of like

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got me into this, like more so than anything

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else. And it allowed me specifically to unlock

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my brain that kind of has been like locked since

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I've kind of stopped teaching into this like

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analytical creative thinking ideas. So, and Rachel

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Reed is right. Toxic masculinity hurts us all.

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So here we go. It absolutely does. That quote

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is stunning. And it also answers the question

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of why we're still doing this 20 episodes in.

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Because there is, I mean, we haven't dismantled

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patriarchy the last time I checked. One episode

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at a time, Anusha. One episode at a time. Right.

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And that's why. I mean, it's so deeply resonating.

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I mean, the reason we decided, you know, to do

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this thematic version of this podcast instead

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of... episode recaps which are really fun too

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as you know I love a good recap and there were

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times where we you know deep dove into episodes

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but it was always with this sort of thematic

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lens in terms of the subject matter. So my favorite

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episode, and I agree, it's very difficult to

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pick. You know, I'm going to say Women and Our

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Feelings. I take pride in that because that episode

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was inspired by me. So the fact that it's your

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favorite, you know, come on. First of all, you

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were inspired by a post about Trenchfoot. Then

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you wrote a whole piece, published it. It was

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beautiful. I loved that piece. And then. We crafted

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a whole episode out of it. It was like the most,

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I think, creatively meaningful episode for me

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in terms of like. putting together the story.

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You know, I do things, maybe the fly, maybe last

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minute. Do you know this about me? I have learned

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this about you over the last 20 weeks. I was

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in the car doing the notes for the episode. And

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then you wrote me this text that made me so happy.

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The text was, I'm laughing and crying at the

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same time. I mean, not that I wished you were

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crying, but it just made me so happy because

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it was just like a circle of creativity. Like

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someone inspired you. Your piece inspired me.

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And then we did this whole episode. And it was,

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I have to say, one of the more cathartic episodes.

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I just felt like it was a very, very well done

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primal scream. So many of our listeners reached

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out and said, oh, my God, I was crying listening

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to this episode. And I felt that way myself,

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editing and listening and writing that. It just

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felt like. So cathartic. And that's my favorite.

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And once we started having guests on the show,

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that was so fun. First of all, many of the guests

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were our friends. So listening to them in that

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way. I'm like, wow, you're pretty cool. As if

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you didn't know that before. I always tell people

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as a joke, but also not really as a joke. I only

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surround myself with super smart people. Like,

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you know, if you don't have a PhD or, you know,

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an MD, I don't want to be friends with you. You

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have an educational threshold. I have an education

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kink. Like the more degrees you have on your

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wall. The likelier it is, I'm going to want to

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be your friend. Yeah, girl. This feels very pointed.

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I like this pink. It really is. You must feel

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some sort of way when you're in my house. I feel

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so many ways when I'm at your house. But I laugh,

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but in some ways it's true. Obviously, not all

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my friends have PhDs and MDs. This is obvious.

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But all of our friends do have really analytical

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brains and they're smart and they're funny. And,

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you know, our girlfriends are just fucking amazing.

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Like, I mean, truly the best people I could ever

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think of to be friends with. I truly wish for

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everyone to have a group of friends like that.

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The guests that we've had, that's been so exciting

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because we got to meet so many outside of our

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friends. We got to meet so many fun, smart, funny,

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kind people who are just as obsessed as we are

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with the show and who love talking about it as

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much as we do. And thank you all for coming on

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our show and for appearing on our show. And we

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hope to have some of you back if you're willing.

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And we hope to do more of this. in the next season.

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Absolutely. Thank you for sharing your music,

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your art, your knowledge, your creativity, your

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obsession with us, especially, I mean, the friends,

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we could be like, you gotta be on our podcast,

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but the ones that are now friends through our

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podcast, that was a really... wonderful connection.

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And I couldn't believe, I mean, I love our podcast,

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but I was like, wow, people want to be on our

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podcast too. It was really nice. I think people

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just love talking about the show and they're

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willing to do it at any platform, in any place.

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And we are more than happy to give you that platform

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because we're just two girls, you know, just

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two girls doing this podcast. Two girls in the

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crease. And speaking of that, remember how on

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the last episode we asked for ideas for the next

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season, we're already getting them in our DMs.

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And I just want to say, if you have sent us a

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DM, I may have read it and not responded because

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it has kind of been a crazy couple of weeks.

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It is, as many of you know, Maycember. In the

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end of the school year. And we are just trying

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to survive the end of the school year. But I

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promise when we have a break, I will read through

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all your DMs. Anusha and I will respond. Collate

00:19:36.660 --> 00:19:38.940
your ideas. Yeah, we will. Yeah, we will. We

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will get there. I promise. I promise. I promise.

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We're not ignoring you. We're just trying to

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survive the end of the school year. Anusha, I'm

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going to throw a curveball. Because who are you?

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Me? Yes. This question is, you don't know that

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it's coming. It's an on the spot question that

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you must answer. And first thing that comes to

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mind, rapid response. Okay. Are you ready? Oh

00:20:02.509 --> 00:20:06.089
my God. Yes. OK, if you had to choose, you know

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what your face is like just now when Ilya and

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Shane are at the cottage and they're trying to,

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like, get it on. And Shane keeps saying, like,

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oh, my God, you haven't been with anyone. I have

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an idea. That was your face. I have an idea face.

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And Ilya's like, oh, my God, like, seriously,

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just touch me. Yeah, like, that's exactly what

00:20:23.390 --> 00:20:24.710
you do. I will do anything if you touch my dick.

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Like, exactly. OK, well, this is me. I'm Shane

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now. And I have an idea. And my idea is to ask

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you. Okay. Hold your horses, girl. I'll get there.

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If you had to choose top three quotes from the

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show, any quotes, what would it be? Top three.

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Okay. And you had no chance to prepare. I just

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want everybody to know. So if she doesn't choose

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the quote that you think she should choose, we

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will not crucify her on the internet. Okay. I'm

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coming to the cottage when Ilya says it as he's

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watching Scott and Kip kiss. That one is a really

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big one. That one. That's probably the top. Yuna,

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when she says, and I know it's supposed to be

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a quote, but it might be more of a paraphrase.

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But this one really gets to me every time. You

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have done nothing wrong. I am sorry that I did

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something to make you feel like you couldn't

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tell me. Right. And I always feel like I pause

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after she says, I, because that's how she says

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it in the show. Every time I hear that, I tear

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up. I don't know. Maybe it feels like that's

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what I want to hear from, like, you know, your

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own parents, like about something that they.

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You have nothing to apologize for. Yeah. And

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it wasn't even the apology. It was the recognition

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that the environment. that they created, no matter

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how loving, still wasn't exactly what you needed

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or what Shane needed. So that one is, that one's

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a lot. I love that quote. Oh my God, the third

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quote. Let me think, let me think. Probably every

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time Ilya says, you're so boring. Of course,

00:22:22.380 --> 00:22:24.440
every time. Of course, you have like one quote,

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but that reappears throughout the entire show.

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I cheat too, see? I'm a liar who lies. So I really

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love the boring one because it's just so tinged

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with affection from the beginning. He's so charmed.

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Oh my God, Hollander, you're so boring. You're

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so boring. And boring is just... His way of saying

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safe. You're a safe person for me. Yeah. You

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know, that's the underlying message. Because,

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and it's the same when Shane calls him an asshole.

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He means like he's exciting and like cocky and

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kind of a free spirit in a way that Shane needs.

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Yeah. I love that. Okay. See, you did it. I did

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it. I did it. Yes, it's scary, but you're brave.

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I am brave. We can do hard things. We can do

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hard things. Pre -coffee. I just finished my

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cup of coffee. I really wish I had another one.

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Okay. Mine. Oh, shit. I brought this on myself.

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No, this one's going to be good. Okay. For those

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who don't know, Diana is chronically online.

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Hey, don't give away my secret. A secret that

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everybody knows. Yeah. A poorly kept one. And

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I have to say, I flirt with being chronically

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online. But at this moment. I'm chronically offline.

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Yes. Actually, that is a gift that this podcast

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has given me somehow is like the ability to disconnect

00:23:51.390 --> 00:23:56.470
in it from like. Must be nice. A toxic way. No.

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Must be nice to disconnect from social media

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while Diana does all the work. Yeah, I know.

00:24:01.769 --> 00:24:04.990
But it really just like let it let me channel

00:24:04.990 --> 00:24:07.470
that into something this like different. But

00:24:07.470 --> 00:24:10.910
anyway, my question is, what is the strangest,

00:24:10.950 --> 00:24:15.869
most like unexpected rabbit hole that you have

00:24:15.869 --> 00:24:20.630
veered into in terms of fandom? I I'm not you.

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And that's. No, but you are. This episode we've

00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:29.880
switched. We've had personality translets. Listen,

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I honestly, I don't think I've gone down any

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rabbit holes. Or just like a little corner, unexpected

00:24:39.079 --> 00:24:42.259
corner of fandom that like gave you so much joy.

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Oh, listen, I, this fandom is. freaking amazing

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i mean granted this is my first one but i really

00:24:50.920 --> 00:24:55.079
enjoy okay so every now and then um somebody

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i don't know how this starts or who starts it

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but starts a trend um and this these last couple

00:25:02.579 --> 00:25:06.180
days there's been a heated rivalry at the zoo

00:25:06.180 --> 00:25:09.319
have you seen this where they take oh my god

00:25:09.319 --> 00:25:14.190
anusha I cannot. They take like zoo animals in

00:25:14.190 --> 00:25:17.670
their natural state and then pair the animals

00:25:17.670 --> 00:25:20.910
with quotes from the show. Oh, my God. And it

00:25:20.910 --> 00:25:25.130
is. Yeah, it's my favorite. It is hilarious.

00:25:25.490 --> 00:25:28.950
It is perfect. Everyone is so creative, like

00:25:28.950 --> 00:25:31.569
so funny. This fandom has the funniest people

00:25:31.569 --> 00:25:34.349
in it. So there's heated rivalry at the zoo,

00:25:34.450 --> 00:25:37.210
which is full of zoo animals with, you know,

00:25:37.210 --> 00:25:40.759
conversations. There's also. medieval heated

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rivalry that's like paintings and then same thing

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idea and today today i just saw before we got

00:25:47.240 --> 00:25:50.519
on this is sculpted heated rivalry where it's

00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:52.960
just different sculptures from all over the world

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and paired with quotes chef's kiss to the fandom

00:25:57.029 --> 00:25:59.490
in this. So I guess if you say rabbit hole, like

00:25:59.490 --> 00:26:02.349
that's the little trends is where it is. Because

00:26:02.349 --> 00:26:04.130
I don't do rabbit holes like you do where like

00:26:04.130 --> 00:26:07.349
the whole snake and animal baby situation, you

00:26:07.349 --> 00:26:09.529
know, you and Shane have that in common with

00:26:09.529 --> 00:26:12.869
your ADHD brains. You know, I don't do that,

00:26:13.089 --> 00:26:16.750
but I do love the fandom like trends that that

00:26:16.750 --> 00:26:19.569
happen. And I really, really enjoy that one.

00:26:19.670 --> 00:26:22.589
There's like people will do like Shane Day and

00:26:22.589 --> 00:26:24.990
they all change their profile pictures to Shane's

00:26:24.990 --> 00:26:28.369
face. They'll do same thing for like Ilya or

00:26:28.369 --> 00:26:31.490
Jacob or whatever. The fandom is amazing. There's

00:26:31.490 --> 00:26:34.450
Cowboy Shane days. I mean, there are, I know,

00:26:34.529 --> 00:26:36.789
there are, I mean, people are getting banned

00:26:36.789 --> 00:26:39.369
for Cowboy Shane from threads. My biggest fear

00:26:39.369 --> 00:26:42.490
is getting banned from threads. So I'm trying

00:26:42.490 --> 00:26:44.970
not to get banned from threads because I'm going

00:26:44.970 --> 00:26:47.670
to be so upset. But anyway, there are so many

00:26:47.670 --> 00:26:51.569
fun things that I could just go on and on. And

00:26:51.569 --> 00:26:53.539
that's why I'm chronically online. you know,

00:26:53.579 --> 00:26:56.200
because it's fun. Like I'm having a lot of fun.

00:26:56.240 --> 00:26:59.079
Yeah. So. So, yeah, I'm having a ton of fun and

00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:02.400
I cannot wait. Well, I don't have to wait to

00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:04.519
explore the fandom because that is consistent

00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:07.500
and it keeps going. And I am looking forward

00:27:07.500 --> 00:27:10.039
to like seeing where it goes. Tonight are the

00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:12.539
Canadian Screen Awards and Hudson is nominated

00:27:12.539 --> 00:27:14.980
for Best Actor. And of course, the fandom is

00:27:14.980 --> 00:27:18.240
losing its collective mind and me too alongside

00:27:18.240 --> 00:27:20.440
with it. So I can't wait to watch that. Obviously,

00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:23.960
I hope he wins. And when he. does, I will cry.

00:27:24.119 --> 00:27:26.099
And so will the rest of the fandom. So we will

00:27:26.099 --> 00:27:29.019
be crashing out collectively tonight all together.

00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:31.779
And I hope that when our listeners are listening

00:27:31.779 --> 00:27:34.119
tomorrow, we, you know, we all can celebrate

00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:36.599
together. It'll be our post episode sunshine.

00:27:36.900 --> 00:27:39.180
Yeah. Oh, my God. I know. And we won't even get

00:27:39.180 --> 00:27:40.920
to do the sunshine because this is our last episode

00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:42.700
for the season. But it's OK. We can post about

00:27:42.700 --> 00:27:45.759
it, you know. Anyway, so speaking of next season,

00:27:45.900 --> 00:27:48.700
here's a question. What are you looking forward

00:27:48.700 --> 00:27:54.140
to our next season of this? podcast and the next

00:27:54.140 --> 00:27:56.779
season of Heated Rivalry. Without spoilers. Yeah,

00:27:56.839 --> 00:27:59.539
that's a good point because we will focus only

00:27:59.539 --> 00:28:02.839
on the show. Yeah, yeah. Also, what is up with

00:28:02.839 --> 00:28:05.339
you asking the biggest questions? What is the

00:28:05.339 --> 00:28:07.440
meaning of life? What does this podcast mean

00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:10.619
to you? I mean, I'm a very philosophical person,

00:28:10.740 --> 00:28:13.660
Anusha, so that's why, obviously, I'm asking

00:28:13.660 --> 00:28:15.900
all the big questions. So answer it right now,

00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:20.269
immediately now. Rapid response. Go. You're stalling.

00:28:20.309 --> 00:28:23.109
I'm trying. OK, I'm going to start with season

00:28:23.109 --> 00:28:27.150
two of the show and what I'm hoping for it. Jacob

00:28:27.150 --> 00:28:30.150
had said he wanted to end season one on this

00:28:30.150 --> 00:28:34.710
high note of hope and sort of like a the end

00:28:34.710 --> 00:28:37.309
question mark, because not everything can be

00:28:37.309 --> 00:28:41.329
resolved in six episodes in real life or in show

00:28:41.329 --> 00:28:45.390
life. But. There are just so many things that

00:28:45.390 --> 00:28:50.190
are kind of hanging. Last episode was about narrative

00:28:50.190 --> 00:28:53.089
and what's moving the narrative forward. And

00:28:53.089 --> 00:28:56.970
one of the things we talked about was how the

00:28:56.970 --> 00:29:01.849
trap was set with their first hookup, the veil

00:29:01.849 --> 00:29:06.029
of secrecy that permeated the rest of the episodes.

00:29:06.049 --> 00:29:11.240
So now I'm just curious. I know. There are some

00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:14.720
more people, Yuna and David, who are now in like

00:29:14.720 --> 00:29:17.619
the cone of trust. Is it cone of trust or circle

00:29:17.619 --> 00:29:21.779
of trust? What is a cone of trust? It's the cone

00:29:21.779 --> 00:29:24.940
of shame and the circle of trust. I completely

00:29:24.940 --> 00:29:27.680
mixed all of my metaphors. It's okay. It's fine.

00:29:27.819 --> 00:29:31.779
Circle of trust, cone of trust, whatever. Whatever.

00:29:31.980 --> 00:29:36.170
All the same. Yeah, but there's still... being

00:29:36.170 --> 00:29:38.930
very secretive. There's all these like very elaborate

00:29:38.930 --> 00:29:42.910
plans, this beautiful foundation for Ilya's mom,

00:29:43.109 --> 00:29:46.490
for Irina. All of it sounds really good, but

00:29:46.490 --> 00:29:50.910
it just is not completely truthful. And I worry

00:29:50.910 --> 00:29:54.410
about that because Ilya and Shane take a little

00:29:54.410 --> 00:29:57.930
kernel of like, let's keep it under wraps. And

00:29:57.930 --> 00:30:01.349
it like blows up into 10 years of. The rap just

00:30:01.349 --> 00:30:04.130
gets bigger and bigger. The strings keep, you

00:30:04.130 --> 00:30:06.950
know, getting more complicated. Right, right.

00:30:07.150 --> 00:30:10.390
That's what worries me. And we all say collectively,

00:30:10.630 --> 00:30:12.730
we're all at the cottage. But I want to know

00:30:12.730 --> 00:30:15.130
what the cottage season two looks like. What

00:30:15.130 --> 00:30:18.059
does it mean? Part two. I'm going to hold off

00:30:18.059 --> 00:30:19.859
on that because I want to know what you want

00:30:19.859 --> 00:30:23.319
for the show in season two. Jacob and Rachel

00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:26.019
have discussed what they want in season two.

00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:27.380
So I feel like I can talk a little bit about

00:30:27.380 --> 00:30:29.720
that because that is public knowledge. So obviously

00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:32.759
we're going to get Troy and Harris's story from

00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:35.319
Role Models. Rachel and Jacob just talked about

00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:37.539
that on one of the interviews. I'm so looking

00:30:37.539 --> 00:30:40.420
forward to that story because I love Role Models.

00:30:40.480 --> 00:30:42.559
It's my second favorite after The Long Game.

00:30:42.740 --> 00:30:44.680
I'm actually really excited to see who they cast

00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:47.059
as Troy and Harris because... I want to know,

00:30:47.059 --> 00:30:48.339
you know, what they're actually going to look

00:30:48.339 --> 00:30:51.339
like. I'm assuming that those stories are going

00:30:51.339 --> 00:30:54.420
to be intertwined just like Scott and Kip's was

00:30:54.420 --> 00:30:56.880
in season one. So I'm really looking forward

00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:59.539
to that. Ilya shows up in all the books and he

00:30:59.539 --> 00:31:03.880
shows up significantly in role models because

00:31:03.880 --> 00:31:06.960
role models and the long game are going on about

00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:10.200
at the same time. So obviously there's a lot

00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:13.400
of crossover. I'm interested to see how that's

00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:15.660
going to be done. I mean, Jacob's a genius, so

00:31:15.660 --> 00:31:18.579
it's going to be really cool, I'm sure. I wonder

00:31:18.579 --> 00:31:20.720
if there's going to be like a separate episode

00:31:20.720 --> 00:31:24.400
for them, like it was for Kip and Scott. Or if

00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:26.500
like we're just going to see all of the characters

00:31:26.500 --> 00:31:29.160
throughout the entire season and every episode.

00:31:29.220 --> 00:31:32.519
I'm also looking forward to see how they're going

00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:37.000
to explore. their secrecy and again we i've read

00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:39.440
the long game you and i have but it'll be different

00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:41.960
on screen to see how that's gonna look so i'm

00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:43.960
interested to see how jacob is gonna do that

00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:46.599
i know it's like a year away but i cannot wait

00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:49.099
i think the summer first of all we probably will

00:31:49.099 --> 00:31:50.900
know who they've cast so that's gonna be really

00:31:50.900 --> 00:31:52.700
cool i'm excited and we're gonna have to maybe

00:31:52.700 --> 00:31:54.940
talk about it we're gonna probably have to talk

00:31:54.940 --> 00:31:58.640
about it We might not be completely done. We

00:31:58.640 --> 00:32:01.000
may not be done. Yeah, you guys, like we say

00:32:01.000 --> 00:32:03.819
we're done, but this is what happens. Me, Diana,

00:32:04.119 --> 00:32:07.559
I will get an idea at like 1230 a .m. as I'm

00:32:07.559 --> 00:32:10.059
trying to go to bed. I will text Anusha this

00:32:10.059 --> 00:32:12.299
idea, completely random, like an idea for an

00:32:12.299 --> 00:32:14.759
episode or whatever. And then she will respond

00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:17.160
to me around 3 a .m. Usually saying, yeah, let's

00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:20.740
do it. So there might be a time in the summer

00:32:20.740 --> 00:32:23.460
where I text her at midnight. I think we should

00:32:23.460 --> 00:32:26.589
leave this on a cliffhanger. We should. Much

00:32:26.589 --> 00:32:29.349
like the show. Yeah, exactly. Like, it's a happy

00:32:29.349 --> 00:32:31.730
ending, but we'll be back. But we'll be back.

00:32:31.730 --> 00:32:33.089
Do you know when we'll be back? Nobody knows.

00:32:33.349 --> 00:32:35.609
Now you have to answer part two. What are you

00:32:35.609 --> 00:32:38.890
looking forward to for our show in the fall?

00:32:39.029 --> 00:32:41.569
Our sophomore year -ish. Yeah, our sophomore

00:32:41.569 --> 00:32:44.849
season. Look at us growing. Yeah. We're growing.

00:32:44.849 --> 00:32:48.150
I'm really proud of our podcast. It really moved

00:32:48.150 --> 00:32:53.069
me in a way that I didn't expect. I hope it moved

00:32:53.069 --> 00:32:55.710
our listeners in a way they didn't expect. The

00:32:55.710 --> 00:32:59.410
power of it all, I think, is in the story. Ilya

00:32:59.410 --> 00:33:03.109
and Shane's story is so intensely personal. I

00:33:03.109 --> 00:33:05.930
mean, it's like so esoteric. It's two hockey

00:33:05.930 --> 00:33:11.009
players who are cream of the crop from Canada

00:33:11.009 --> 00:33:13.289
and Russia. I mean, they're not living a life

00:33:13.289 --> 00:33:16.430
that is... circumstantially relatable to us,

00:33:16.509 --> 00:33:19.930
but the emotional resonance is what's relatable.

00:33:20.230 --> 00:33:23.369
And it crosses different kinds of experiences.

00:33:23.670 --> 00:33:26.569
And that's the power, I think, of the story.

00:33:26.789 --> 00:33:30.069
It tackles huge things, but it does it in a way

00:33:30.069 --> 00:33:32.269
that's a story. One of our guests, Jayanthi,

00:33:32.390 --> 00:33:34.950
said the only way to change culture is to change

00:33:34.950 --> 00:33:38.730
culture. The only way to change culture. is to

00:33:38.730 --> 00:33:41.450
provide these kind of stories. Stories are the

00:33:41.450 --> 00:33:44.529
way we can connect, especially in this digital

00:33:44.529 --> 00:33:48.849
age where disconnection is what is driving a

00:33:48.849 --> 00:33:52.029
lot of our political climate, our polarization.

00:33:52.990 --> 00:33:57.430
The story matters. And that's what the show showed

00:33:57.430 --> 00:34:01.670
us. These rich, suave hockey players. That's

00:34:01.670 --> 00:34:05.549
not a life many of us live. And it was so...

00:34:05.920 --> 00:34:09.320
impactful for so many people so if the season

00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:13.079
two of the show continues that and I have great

00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:18.099
hopes it will I hope that we continue to voice

00:34:18.099 --> 00:34:23.159
different stories on our podcast so that it continues

00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:27.090
to resonate with listeners. And if that story

00:34:27.090 --> 00:34:31.190
isn't exactly your story or your life experience,

00:34:31.590 --> 00:34:34.949
that you can still see the emotional resonance.

00:34:35.070 --> 00:34:37.550
And I hope we continue to convey that. I wanted

00:34:37.550 --> 00:34:41.309
to bring up one listener's email to us. I'm not

00:34:41.309 --> 00:34:43.630
going to share a lot of details. I don't want

00:34:43.630 --> 00:34:47.250
to expose anything. Yeah, privacy. But the gist

00:34:47.250 --> 00:34:49.929
of it is around our Mother's Day episode where

00:34:49.929 --> 00:34:52.469
we sat down and said, you know, let's try to

00:34:52.469 --> 00:34:55.829
think of all the kinds of mothers, mother figures

00:34:55.829 --> 00:34:59.489
there are. And in the email, this woman said

00:34:59.489 --> 00:35:03.510
she and her partner and their lesbian couple,

00:35:03.610 --> 00:35:07.929
the story that she described of having a child

00:35:07.929 --> 00:35:14.250
who has two moms and their experience of not

00:35:14.250 --> 00:35:18.539
quite fitting into these. little boxes of Mother's

00:35:18.539 --> 00:35:23.840
Day. And I read that and it was such a beautifully

00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:28.860
poignant way to explain the emotion. And it was

00:35:28.860 --> 00:35:32.380
because it was a story. If that listener is listening,

00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:35.320
hear us when we say we were really moved by it.

00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:39.400
And we agree that we don't capture everyone's

00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:42.769
experiences, but... When we don't, what I hope

00:35:42.769 --> 00:35:46.070
is that we learn from those who tell us about

00:35:46.070 --> 00:35:50.289
their experience and lead with empathy. The thing

00:35:50.289 --> 00:35:52.269
is, feeling like you're not belonging doesn't

00:35:52.269 --> 00:35:55.369
affect one type of person. We've all felt that

00:35:55.369 --> 00:35:57.690
way. And essentially, that's what this story

00:35:57.690 --> 00:36:00.050
is. It's a story about loving who you are and

00:36:00.050 --> 00:36:02.210
feeling a sense of belonging. And that's something

00:36:02.210 --> 00:36:08.130
all of us can understand, wanting. And I hope

00:36:08.130 --> 00:36:11.550
that's what we do in our season two. is that

00:36:11.550 --> 00:36:15.590
we continue to promote that and that when we

00:36:15.590 --> 00:36:18.889
fall short of it, we acknowledge it with empathy

00:36:18.889 --> 00:36:21.949
and being humble. Yeah. Oh my God, Anusha, I'm

00:36:21.949 --> 00:36:23.989
like crying. Do you see my eyes? They're teary.

00:36:24.309 --> 00:36:26.710
That was really beautiful. I don't think I have

00:36:26.710 --> 00:36:29.949
anything else to say about that. I know you're

00:36:29.949 --> 00:36:32.909
going to ask me the same, but like, I agree.

00:36:33.150 --> 00:36:35.329
I agree with you that I hope that for our season

00:36:35.329 --> 00:36:40.019
two. We continue to uplift stories. We have guests

00:36:40.019 --> 00:36:43.039
who want to share their stories with our audience.

00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:46.659
I hope that we share stories that move others.

00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:49.199
I hope that you and I continue to grow in our

00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:53.199
views and our friendship and maybe some of the

00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:56.480
blind spots we have. I hope that this podcast

00:36:56.480 --> 00:37:01.039
and anything related in this fandom allows people

00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:05.360
who never felt seen. to be seen, just like heated

00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:08.019
rivalry has for many. I hope that we continue

00:37:08.019 --> 00:37:14.260
to learn and grow within the fandom and on our

00:37:14.260 --> 00:37:17.059
podcast and just as people and become better

00:37:17.059 --> 00:37:19.840
and even better allies than we thought we were.

00:37:20.019 --> 00:37:21.940
And that's just my hope, not just for season

00:37:21.940 --> 00:37:25.420
two, but for permanent life, you know. Your personal

00:37:25.420 --> 00:37:28.519
development. Personal development. And I think

00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:31.829
that when you're open to growth, And you don't

00:37:31.829 --> 00:37:35.269
react defensively when someone potentially criticizes

00:37:35.269 --> 00:37:38.909
you. That makes you just better ally to anyone,

00:37:39.070 --> 00:37:43.699
not just LGBTQ plus folks. One more thing that

00:37:43.699 --> 00:37:45.820
I wanted to say is that I hope we have created

00:37:45.820 --> 00:37:49.119
a space that if you're listening to us, you feel

00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.239
comfortable enough to reach out and say, hey,

00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:53.460
maybe you didn't get this quite right. In the

00:37:53.460 --> 00:37:55.400
very beginning, when we were first going to do

00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:57.800
this, we were obviously a little worried because

00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:01.559
we are two women talking about a show about queer

00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:06.019
men and we didn't want to offend or upset or

00:38:06.019 --> 00:38:10.539
say something wrong. In today's world, where

00:38:10.539 --> 00:38:14.619
you can get canceled for anything, we were worried.

00:38:14.739 --> 00:38:16.920
And I remember saying to you, hey, we're going

00:38:16.920 --> 00:38:19.820
to get it wrong sometimes. And I just hope that

00:38:19.820 --> 00:38:24.500
people will give us enough grace, especially

00:38:24.500 --> 00:38:26.840
after they learn who we are in some ways, which

00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:28.639
I feel like in 20 episodes, you kind of sort

00:38:28.639 --> 00:38:31.619
of get the gist of who we are as people. And

00:38:31.619 --> 00:38:34.090
we're going to say something wrong. And we're

00:38:34.090 --> 00:38:35.769
going to have to take accountability for that.

00:38:35.849 --> 00:38:37.949
As long as you don't become defensive, which

00:38:37.949 --> 00:38:39.869
is what we talked about on our allyship episode,

00:38:40.090 --> 00:38:41.789
right? As long as you don't become defensive

00:38:41.789 --> 00:38:45.070
and shut down, then you can grow. And we just

00:38:45.070 --> 00:38:48.309
continue growing here. So that is my long answer

00:38:48.309 --> 00:38:51.230
and follow up to what you just said. To growth.

00:38:51.409 --> 00:38:56.090
To growth. To growth and joy and to continuing

00:38:56.090 --> 00:38:59.929
to listen to other people. Yeah. And their experiences

00:38:59.929 --> 00:39:02.150
and sharing stories. This is a recap episode

00:39:02.150 --> 00:39:05.809
of our podcast. And a podcast wouldn't be what

00:39:05.809 --> 00:39:09.510
it is without our listeners. So where are we

00:39:09.510 --> 00:39:13.230
at in terms of our streams as of today? All right.

00:39:13.289 --> 00:39:18.050
So I'm looking at our analytics. We have, as

00:39:18.050 --> 00:39:21.690
of now, 85 ,000 plays, which is decent, I think.

00:39:21.789 --> 00:39:23.809
I mean, nobody really knows, but it feels...

00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:27.380
Decent. We have on Apple Podcasts 1 .2 thousand

00:39:27.380 --> 00:39:31.699
followers, 2 .7 thousand engaged listeners and

00:39:31.699 --> 00:39:35.760
4 thousand listeners. Top countries, United States,

00:39:36.099 --> 00:39:39.500
Canada, United Kingdom, Australia and Germany.

00:39:39.739 --> 00:39:42.159
Yes. And RSS has something slightly different.

00:39:42.280 --> 00:39:46.539
Canada is our top country. OK. All right. I kind

00:39:46.539 --> 00:39:49.500
of love that for this Canadian show. Right. So

00:39:49.500 --> 00:39:54.000
I'm going to take that as like an extra. It's

00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:56.260
like we're doing it right. We're doing it right.

00:39:56.300 --> 00:39:58.840
If Canadians are listening to us. Yeah. Like

00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:01.119
if Canadians are listening to us, we're doing

00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:05.800
something right. So, I mean, that is incredible.

00:40:06.039 --> 00:40:09.900
I mean, I have no reference, but that feels incredible.

00:40:10.159 --> 00:40:13.219
I mean, because when we started, we said only

00:40:13.219 --> 00:40:15.440
if only like a few people listen, it'll be fun.

00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:19.960
So we have a few. And we have so much engagement.

00:40:20.039 --> 00:40:23.239
People write to us. People share really, really

00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:26.300
personal stories with us. I don't take any of

00:40:26.300 --> 00:40:28.420
that for granted. We would be nowhere without

00:40:28.420 --> 00:40:31.820
you guys. So thank you. Truly love you guys.

00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:33.840
And especially when you're engaging with us,

00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:36.300
like on some socials, we love you all. And we

00:40:36.300 --> 00:40:39.320
are looking forward to continuing this with you.

00:40:39.380 --> 00:40:42.320
And I hope you remain part of us always and forever

00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:46.090
and ever and ever and ever. Anusha's like, are

00:40:46.090 --> 00:40:48.469
we doing this forever? It's starting to hinge

00:40:48.469 --> 00:40:52.469
on creepy now. Be with us forever. Be with us

00:40:52.469 --> 00:40:56.269
forever. In the cottage. Listen, some people

00:40:56.269 --> 00:40:58.710
will be just happy here. All right, Anusha, we've

00:40:58.710 --> 00:41:01.949
had our fun. I must ask you one last question.

00:41:02.329 --> 00:41:05.670
You ready? It's our last sunshine. I know. I

00:41:05.670 --> 00:41:08.630
know. Okay, but so make it good. What is your

00:41:08.630 --> 00:41:10.690
sunshine this week? Okay. It better be good.

00:41:11.119 --> 00:41:14.260
It's going to be ridiculous. OK, fine. Which

00:41:14.260 --> 00:41:18.400
is also good for this podcast. My son sometimes

00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:22.000
asks these rapid fire questions. And typically

00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:25.820
the person answering these questions is me because.

00:41:26.590 --> 00:41:29.670
If I don't respond, he'll ask Alexa. And I'm

00:41:29.670 --> 00:41:32.090
just like very worried that he thinks Alexa is

00:41:32.090 --> 00:41:35.789
a person and maybe could replace his mom. So

00:41:35.789 --> 00:41:39.110
I try not to get it there. And my husband has

00:41:39.110 --> 00:41:43.469
this incredible ability to not focus if he's

00:41:43.469 --> 00:41:45.869
focusing on something else. Meanwhile, me, like

00:41:45.869 --> 00:41:48.710
I hear everything. So we've had this longstanding

00:41:48.710 --> 00:41:53.809
discussion about. opossums. And he has asked

00:41:53.809 --> 00:41:56.789
me over and over, why do people call it opossum

00:41:56.789 --> 00:41:59.730
when it has an O in the beginning? And I responded,

00:42:00.349 --> 00:42:03.010
I should have probably looked this up before

00:42:03.010 --> 00:42:05.070
I did. I said, well, the O I think is silent.

00:42:05.150 --> 00:42:10.150
But today, my mind was blown because we went

00:42:10.150 --> 00:42:15.369
to a wildlife sanctuary and there were opossums

00:42:15.369 --> 00:42:19.579
there. And he did. The thing that he would always

00:42:19.579 --> 00:42:21.539
do when we talk about the subject, which he's

00:42:21.539 --> 00:42:24.760
asked, why is it called a possum? And there's

00:42:24.760 --> 00:42:28.800
a no. The volunteer said, possums live in North

00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:32.139
and South America. Possums live in Australia.

00:42:32.780 --> 00:42:36.980
They are related marsupials, but they're different.

00:42:37.179 --> 00:42:40.550
And I almost dropped dead. Because I did not

00:42:40.550 --> 00:42:42.150
know this. I didn't know this either, honestly.

00:42:42.250 --> 00:42:45.110
Yeah, okay. But this has been a subject that

00:42:45.110 --> 00:42:48.369
has been under discussion for months. And you

00:42:48.369 --> 00:42:50.730
never thought to, like, look it up? I should,

00:42:50.809 --> 00:42:53.630
but I was so confident that the O is silent.

00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:56.460
I really, really was. That's because you're a

00:42:56.460 --> 00:43:00.300
really great speller. Yes. And so you just know.

00:43:00.460 --> 00:43:03.920
You just know spelling rules. Yeah. As one does

00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:06.360
the silent O. Literally never heard of a silent

00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:10.079
O. Yes. No. No, there's no such thing. And of

00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:13.400
course, my son is staring at me. I have let him

00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:15.719
down. I should have probably let Alexa handle

00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:20.719
this one. But yes. The most amazing thing is

00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:25.179
my husband was not aware of the amount of opossum

00:43:25.179 --> 00:43:28.280
-related conversations my son and I have had.

00:43:28.480 --> 00:43:30.719
Oh, I believe that. A hundred percent. I was

00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:32.840
like, you've never heard him say this to you

00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:34.519
before? He's never asked you this question? He

00:43:34.519 --> 00:43:38.099
asked me all the time. Because he didn't believe

00:43:38.099 --> 00:43:40.539
you. He didn't trust you. He was like, are you

00:43:40.539 --> 00:43:44.710
sure? He didn't. He didn't. And then he took

00:43:44.710 --> 00:43:47.469
it upon himself to ask the expert the minute

00:43:47.469 --> 00:43:50.690
we walked in. He knew you were full of shit.

00:43:50.710 --> 00:43:53.630
He knew it. He freaking knew it. He was like,

00:43:53.650 --> 00:43:55.469
he was like, I'm just going to let her redeem

00:43:55.469 --> 00:43:58.429
herself every single week when I ask her about

00:43:58.429 --> 00:44:01.150
this. Maybe if I keep asking her, she will finally

00:44:01.150 --> 00:44:05.869
get it right. And then he figured he couldn't.

00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:08.119
tell you you were wrong. But if you were to ask

00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:11.460
an expert in front of you, then that would be

00:44:11.460 --> 00:44:13.900
a very solid way for you to learn the information.

00:44:14.699 --> 00:44:18.179
Yeah, it worked. It worked. So your helmet of

00:44:18.179 --> 00:44:22.260
sunshine is getting owned by your child and the

00:44:22.260 --> 00:44:26.699
expert in opossums. Opossums. Opossums. Gotcha.

00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:29.099
Okay. I didn't know that either, but I had no

00:44:29.099 --> 00:44:31.340
interest in finding this out. That's my moment

00:44:31.340 --> 00:44:34.019
of sunshine. Okay, I love that. Well, my moment

00:44:34.019 --> 00:44:36.559
of sunshine also has to do with my son. which

00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:38.860
is funny. He has been playing on a travel league

00:44:38.860 --> 00:44:41.679
for a year. And this past year, he tried out

00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:44.139
for another one, kind of more elite, I guess.

00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:46.719
And he made it. And so he's now moving to a different

00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:48.840
league. He's a keeper. He's a goalie. Now in

00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:50.559
our current league, they just assign goalies

00:44:50.559 --> 00:44:52.760
like a standard number. It's either 00 or 99.

00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:54.880
In this league, apparently a goalie can have

00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:57.300
any number. Let me paint you a picture. Okay.

00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:01.960
So we get this email. We're done dinner. My husband

00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:03.980
and my son are in the kitchen discussing numbers.

00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:06.340
I'm in the living room, probably working on my

00:45:06.340 --> 00:45:09.199
storyboard or a magazine or whatever, some fandom

00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:11.360
stuff I'm doing. I'm not even paying attention

00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:13.400
to him. And then I hear my husband go, hey, D,

00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:16.360
don't you have some jersey numbers that you like?

00:45:16.539 --> 00:45:18.480
And I literally looked at him and I go, huh?

00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:20.960
I don't do sports. What do you mean? Why would

00:45:20.960 --> 00:45:27.239
I like jerseys? Why would I like Jersey? I don't

00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:30.019
do sports. Like I don't even know numbers, right?

00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:32.739
Except for the one thing. Except for the one

00:45:32.739 --> 00:45:35.500
thing. And he like looks at me like, really?

00:45:35.579 --> 00:45:37.500
Kind of like when Ilya looks in the car where

00:45:37.500 --> 00:45:38.880
Shane says like, maybe you should stay in the

00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:40.539
car. Like that look kind of like, are you serious

00:45:40.539 --> 00:45:46.360
right now? And I'm like, oh my God, yes. Obviously

00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:49.460
there are numbers I like, Jersey numbers. And

00:45:49.460 --> 00:45:52.460
he goes immediately, he goes, well, 24 is taken

00:45:52.460 --> 00:45:56.030
because that's. Hollanders, right? So I go, oh

00:45:56.030 --> 00:45:59.349
my God, 81, please. Is that taken? And he goes,

00:45:59.429 --> 00:46:02.789
no, it's not taken. So he writes 81. We had to

00:46:02.789 --> 00:46:05.010
pick top five. So he writes 81. And in parentheses,

00:46:05.170 --> 00:46:07.190
he goes, because he copied me in the email, in

00:46:07.190 --> 00:46:10.730
parentheses, he goes, most preferred. But as

00:46:10.730 --> 00:46:12.710
he's saying this, I'm like, oh my God, yes, 81,

00:46:12.789 --> 00:46:16.309
81. My son looks at me and he goes, oh my God,

00:46:16.329 --> 00:46:21.030
is this your heated rivalry stuff? So he's completely

00:46:21.030 --> 00:46:25.730
uninvolved in this choice. Correct. So I look

00:46:25.730 --> 00:46:28.789
at him and I go, absolutely not, bud. Like, totally

00:46:28.789 --> 00:46:32.130
random. But this actually works out really well

00:46:32.130 --> 00:46:34.349
for all of us. OK, let me explain to you why.

00:46:35.409 --> 00:46:39.199
He wanted the number 18. My son, he wanted the

00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:41.760
number 18 because that is the number of Blake,

00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:44.480
who is the goalie for the Union League, right?

00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:47.699
So his number is 18, but 18 is already taken.

00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:52.920
81 is the reverse of that. Look at that. So he

00:46:52.920 --> 00:46:57.940
was more than willing to be 81. And guess what?

00:46:58.039 --> 00:47:00.960
The next day, we got an email and he got 81.

00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:06.900
So now my son will have... Ilya's jersey number

00:47:06.900 --> 00:47:09.119
for soccer. And I will get to see that every

00:47:09.119 --> 00:47:12.820
time we're at soccer. Yes. Go me. Go my husband.

00:47:13.260 --> 00:47:15.480
Go the league that lets us pick our own numbers.

00:47:16.039 --> 00:47:19.519
I'm happy. I'm in a happy place. And also your

00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:24.380
son. Oh, right. Yeah. Go my son. The child. And

00:47:24.380 --> 00:47:30.079
also my child. Yay. Oh, my God. And so I can't

00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:32.880
believe you didn't think about this. I can't

00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:34.659
believe it either. But also like I probably was

00:47:34.659 --> 00:47:37.139
my brain was like elsewhere. You know, you do

00:47:37.139 --> 00:47:42.920
forget this is a sports show. Correct. It's an

00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:45.000
afterthought, as you said. I hope that doesn't

00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:48.159
offend anyone. But like for me, yes, the hockey

00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:50.340
is an afterthought. A hundred percent. I will

00:47:50.340 --> 00:47:53.840
admit it. I like hockey. I think it's fun to

00:47:53.840 --> 00:47:57.320
watch. But I will admit that that is. Almost

00:47:57.320 --> 00:48:00.719
not really part of the show for me. The culture

00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:02.739
of hockey, right? Like why it's so difficult

00:48:02.739 --> 00:48:04.539
for them and whatever else. But the actual game,

00:48:04.760 --> 00:48:07.900
whatever. It's there in the background. As Jacob

00:48:07.900 --> 00:48:10.420
Tierney called it, it's a workplace romance,

00:48:10.719 --> 00:48:14.179
which I thought was hilarious. Anyway, that's

00:48:14.179 --> 00:48:16.280
my moment of sunshine. That's our last moment

00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:18.199
of sunshine for season one. That is an amazing

00:48:18.199 --> 00:48:21.400
moment of sunshine. Absolutely. Like that is

00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:27.079
truly chef's kiss. Thanks. 81. I mean. It's like

00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:30.099
full circle. Here we are. It's not going to start

00:48:30.099 --> 00:48:33.460
until the fall, I think. And so as soon as that

00:48:33.460 --> 00:48:35.340
jersey goes on, there will be a picture posted

00:48:35.340 --> 00:48:38.619
for everyone to see. So what do we do now? Now

00:48:38.619 --> 00:48:41.199
that we don't say next week on Everyone Deserves

00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:45.099
Sunshine. Holy shit. I know. What do we do? Well,

00:48:45.179 --> 00:48:48.619
let's wrap it up. Okay, Anusha. It has been a

00:48:48.619 --> 00:48:51.199
pleasure doing this with you for the last 20

00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:54.280
weeks. And we will see you guys perhaps sometime

00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:57.659
in the summer. Perhaps in the fall. But for now,

00:48:57.659 --> 00:49:00.239
we're taking a break. EBD, thank you so much

00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:03.260
for listening. And that's a wrap for the Girls

00:49:03.260 --> 00:49:03.800
in the Crease.
